713 thoughts on “Sunday 8 September: The current paralysis in Parliament, brought about by MPs, tests the patience of the electorate”

  2. The Observer view on Putin’s ongoing corruption of democracy. Observer editorial. Sun 8 Sep 2019.

    Vladimir Putin’s regime has done all in its power to skew and distort the results of Sunday’s nationwide regional elections in Russia. This is no surprise. The Kremlin has become notorious in recent years for its efforts, both brazen and underhand, to subvert democracy at home and abroad. With general elections approaching in Britain and the US, a close eye needs to be kept on Russia’s president.

    Morning everyone. The irony. Even if this farrago of lies and disinformation were true it would be a mere bagatelle to what is going on in the UK where Democracy is being strangled by traitors with the blatant assistance of a Foreign Power.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/08/the-observer-view-on-russia-subversion-of-democracy

    1. Care to enlighten us?

      Is it anything to do with what John Mann (now ex Labour, but that’s not news apparently) has been tweeting about? He says that the Kinnock amendment is significant. It’s means that the law to block no deal, now states that Johnson has to ask for an extension and the REASON for that extension is to pass May’s Withdrawal Agreement.

      1. The Act may be unconstitutional

        This rogue Surrender Act must be thrown out
        By Timothy Bradshaw – September 7, 2019

        THE European Union (Withdrawal) (No 6) Act should be studied by everyone in the country. It is short but one clause is weirdly abstruse. It can hardly be described as anything but the product of a rogue Parliament passing the executive of HMG to a foreign power to decide the future of the UK as an independent sovereign democracy.
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        When you read the four pages of this ransom demand, you can see that the EU is given the executive power over the UK to tell it to accept any terms and obligations it decides. Power runs from Brussels to the UK with the PM as a mere go-between, not the elected bearer of executive power of a sovereign nation state. Whatever Brussels decides ‘must’ be accepted by the UK – see section 3.1 and 3.2. There is a foretaste of this rule by a foreign power over the UK with no veto in the Barnier/May WA/PD and its Joint Committee – see Caroline Bell’s ‘The Seven Deadly Sins’ in Briefings for Brexit.
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        https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/this-rogue-surrender-act-must-be-thrown-out/

        1. On that basis the EU will rush to agree it. In fact it apparently already (unofficially) has. Well it would, wouldn’t it?

  5. I see SCD is back on the BBC. Quite how the BBC can justify having a judge on the show that is a sister of one of the dancers beats me. I suspect the main reason she is a judge is she is black. So I guess the conflict of interests does no matter

    1. Apparently as from next year Strictly Come Dancing will have same-sex couples. Doesn’t bother me, as I have never watched it anyway.

      1. In that case I’m even less likely to watch a programme I don’t watch anyway…

        Nevertheless, I have the feeling that the high ratings for this prog (goodness knows why, when all it seems to be is some kind of shrieking/screaming contest for the audience) might not be sustained.

        ‘Morning, A.

  6. YouGov for the Sunday Times (fieldwork Thurs/Fri) Con 35% (-) Lab 21% (-4) LDem 19% (+3) Brexit 12% (+1) A week of turmoil and Boris Johnson seems to be defying gravity.

      3. So that her remainer brother Roland and his various organisations like Business for Europe and The people’s Vote Campaign would have a good feed from inside the cabinet.

        1. Everyone keeps on talking about Roland Rudd. I thought he was a large puppet who took over ITV’s morning TV show when ratings were falling disastrously!

          :-))

  9. It’s very sad that there are people like this being given space on the DT/ST Letters page

    SIR – I was excited at the election of Boris Johnson as Prime Minister, who seemed resolved to implement Brexit.

    However, as the last few weeks have shown, Theresa May was faced with a monumental task – not in getting us out of the EU, but in dealing with treacherous, arrogant, conniving, bullying members of her own party.

    Tracey Gregson
    Burton Overy, Leicestershire

    No Tracey, dahling. Theresa May was faced with the task of irrevocably tying the UK into all the EU’s existing structures, institutions and obligations and any and all future EU undertakings and evolutions. She was ably assisted by our very own Rolls Royce civil service and the very best evil and devious minds that the EU/Germany had on offer. She then signed the WA and the PD without her Cabinet knowing or the media questioning her actions.

    It is we the demos who are having to deal ‘with treacherous, arrogant, conniving, bullying members of her’ entourage and their allies, you stupid woman.

    {Old joke: There’s a ‘Rose of Sharon’ but why no ‘Rose of Tracey’?}

    1. Caroline and I had two sons but if we had had a daughter we certainly would not have called her Tracey Tracey. (In fact had we had a daughter we planned to call herhter Emily Alice after my paternal grandmother) Indeed Tracey is a fine old surname but ranks alongside Sharon as a Christian name.

      When I was at my all boys boarding prep school we called each other by our surnames and we all felt sorry for a boy called Jane who, having such a surname, was teased mercilessly. Indeed he might have been toughened up by the experience as the Johnny Cash song ‘A Boy Named Sue’ suggests. Little did I know then that my family name would also become a Christian name much favoured by the hoi polloi.

  10. Morning all

    SIR – This Parliament doesn’t want a no-deal Brexit; it doesn’t want the only deal on offer (Theresa May’s Withdrawal Agreement), and it doesn’t want a general election to break the deadlock. It seems a majority of MPs would prefer to waste the electorate’s time, money and patience with months or years of paralysis rather than face their verdict.

    Iwan Price-Evans
    Croydon, Surrey

    1. SIR – As former chairmen of the Tory Reform Group, which has for 44 years represented the One Nation tradition in the Conservative Party, we support the swift return of the whip to the 21 MPs who had it removed last week. One vote is not cause for expulsion. Ken Clarke and Rory Stewart are two of the most popular Conservatives, who appeal far beyond the Conservative Party’s traditional base.

      A Conservative Party that is not broad enough to include Sir Nicholas Soames and Alistair Burt is unlikely to be capable of winning a general election. With this purge, our party risks being perceived again as the “nasty party”. This is the quickest route the Conservatives can offer Jeremy Corbyn in his quest to reach Downing Street.

      The key issue is not Britain’s membership of the EU. That was settled in the 2016 referendum, and almost all of the 21 voted for the Withdrawal Agreement. It is about culture, ethics and political priorities. Our party and the Government cannot remain narrowly focused on this single issue to define what does and does not make a Conservative. Arguably, this obsession has already led to us losing sight of what most affects the daily lives of so many, including problems in social care and education. In part this led to the loss in 2017 of the majority David Cameron secured for the Conservatives.

      We support Sir John Major, Damian Green and the One Nation Conservative Caucus in urging the Prime Minister to resolve this issue without delay.

      Victoria Roberts
      TRG Chairman, 2013-14
      Timothy Crockford
      TRG Chairman, 2009-13
      Timothy Barnes
      TRG Chairman, 2006-9
      Giles Marshall
      TRG Chairman, 2000-02

      4. Time to forgive and forget and let them back in is when the parliamentary agenda is restored to Government and we are out of the European Union.

        1. Time to forgive and forget is never. In the past they would have been executed, ergo now able to come back in any case.

          Morning, jeM.

      5. “We support Sir John Major…”

        It they had put him at the start of their letter it would have saved me the time and trouble of reading it. The infamous 21 have almost certainly sunk the government, and with it our decision to leave. I’m sure this was no accident.

        ‘Morning, Epi. They take us for fools

      6. This woman and her fellow idiots have difficulty understanding simple concepts like integrity, loyalty, treachery, vanity and democracy

  11. Morning again

    SIR – When motorways were first introduced, the hard shoulder was heralded as a major safety factor. Of course it remains unused for most of the time, but that does not mean that it is not needed.

    On fast smart motorways, we must be prepared to encounter a stationary vehicle directly ahead (report, September 1). Despite opposition from many quarters – including the AA – this scheme has been designed, financed and implemented without a thought to the self-evident safety risks.

    Oliver Parsons
    Penn, Buckinghamshire

    1. But it’s a good way to transfer public borrowing into the bonus pots of contractor executives. Who cares about dead motorists anyway? They’re only plebs after all. Important hardworking people can afford private jets.

  13. Home Office ends contract with couple paid £2.5m to deradicalise jihadi brides returning from Syria as the GP and her former cage fighter husband are accused of bullying and harassing firm’s low-paid staff. 7 September 2019.

    Meanwhile, Mr Raja claimed that he had mentored around a dozen male jihadis, using mixed martial arts sessions in gyms in Hampshire and East London to turn them away from violence.

    You have to laugh. You should read this for the insight it gives into the muddled thinking, incompetent administration and wasting of taxpayers cash on useless projects.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7439131/Home-Office-ends-2-5m-contract-couple-paid-deradicalise-jihadi-brides.html

    1. When the gravy boat is overfilled it flows everywhere and those in the know get their fill. £2.5 million? – two Oxo cubes and a tablespoonful of Bisto in that little lot.😫

    2. We do need to deradicalise these young murderous jihaddis. I know. Let’s get the taxpayers/nextvictims to pay for martial arts lessons. What could possibly go wrong?

      I’ll get me gnu.

  14. Good morning from Saxon Queen with longbow and axe.
    Travelling home from Devon today. I saw a beautiful small stone
    cottage on the edge of the Dart within woodland a few days ago
    It was for sale. I thought It’d be a wonderful place to live and
    peacefully write. My husband thinks I look at the place through
    the eyes of a tourist during the summer and that it would be different
    In the winter and the lanes are very narrow and winding .

    It’s also been nice to ignore the news and politics but alas ! Actual like beacons.

  16. No prizes for correctly guessing who might have specified the terms of the extension Act to which the EU has apparently already given it’s agreement !

    As Conservative Woman tells us……………

    ”This rogue Act is surely without precedent in British history. The UK PM is told to ask Brussels for an extension to the end of January or to whatever date Brussels might dictate, and the Act tells the PM he must accept that date, and any conditions they might impose in granting this pointless, Brexit-breaking extension. To quote Guido Fawkes’s blog: ‘Following remain MPs’ 29-vote victory at the 2nd reading this afternoon, MPs have now passed anti-No Deal legislation; forcing the PM not only to ask for an extension but accept any terms the EU proposed.’

    When you read the four pages of this ransom demand, you can see that the EU is given the executive power over the UK to tell it to accept any terms and obligations it decides. Power runs from Brussels to the UK with the PM as a mere go-between, not the elected bearer of executive power of a sovereign nation state. Whatever Brussels decides ‘must’ be accepted by the UK – see section 3.1 and 3.2.”

    This looks a very similar situation to the US fiscal expansion in 2009 when the terms were allegedly decided by someone outside government who subsequently is said to have benefited for his own account.

      2. What insufferable crap and hypocrisy!! A year or two ago he had said he was going to stand down at the next election and let it be known that, by terms of his Last Will & Testament, he wanted to bequeath his seat to…….Amber Rudd because of her flimsy majority in Hastings.

          1. I suspect that her decision to go and spend more time with her bank account was mainly due to her majority of just 346, with a GE on the horizon. I can imagine that yer average Hastings voter will readily recall her Remain campaigning on the ITV debate prog alongside Queen Nicola and the Eagle brother…not something to be remembered for when her constituents voted 55/45 for Leave/Remain.

            ‘Morning, J.

          2. Hastings…..so long and thanks for nothing…

            Open Mosque day

            The aim of these events is to allow the local community to see what
            goes on inside a mosque and to understand its role in Muslim life; it’s a
            zchance to interact and engage with other cultures to encourage deeper
            cultural and religious understanding. Another key aim is to emphasise
            the important part Muslims play in the local community.

            The event was organised by the East Sussex Islamic Association and
            supported by Hastings Borough Council. In a short talk, Cllr Nigel
            Sinden, Mayor of Hastings thanked the mosque and all those attending,
            saying: “When we get to know people in our town, they are no longer
            strangers.” Others giving talks were the deputy mayor, the mayor of
            Bexhill, a local police inspector as well as Imam Yusuf.

            Visitors experienced traditional Muslim hospitality with generous
            amounts of Asian and Middle Eastern food. There was also an opportunity
            to dip into Muslim culture by trying temporary henna tattoos and even
            experience what it was like to wear a burka.

          3. …and, of course the Imam and his local little-sheet heads have all toured the local churches and enjoyed a visit to Chichester, its Cathedral and a talk about Christianity given by the Bishop.

            Thought not.

      3. That he is Winston Churchills grandson is his sole claim to fame and he’s traded on it for forty years!

          1. Mr Arrogance-Personified…

            ‘Morning, TB. If he chose to ignore the clear warning that anyone voting against the government would be shown the door, he is even more stupid than I had given him credit for.

      4. I’ve always considered that Soames only got any respect or notice taken of him because he was Winston Churchill’s grandson.

        If he had been Mosley’s grandson he would never have reached parliament, although given how politics works, if Kinnock’s son or Straw’s son can become MP’s perhaps he might have.

        1. Morning Sos.

          He has been a nothing MP. who has regarded Westminster to be his God given right ..
          We don’t need people like him in Parliament, similar to Hilary Benn etc all of them are toads!

      5. He lost even more credibility than the hippopotamine weight he lost along with his honour and his integrity.

        Apparently one of his lovers (did he really have any?) said that coupling with him was like having a large wardrobe with a very small key falling on top of her.

  18. You really couldn’t make this stuff up!
    Soubry currently on LBC defending Rudd. La Soubry claiming that Rudd cannot be described as a Remainer because she voted three times for May’s WA. Do these people not understand how stupid they sound? Probably not as they hold the rest of us in total contempt and believe we’re thick.

  19. Morning. all. Sister and husband arrive from Canada today for three weeks. We’ll be driving them around to visit relatives and for her Canadian husband to see some sights. I will dip in and out. Thank you all for your encouragement.

      2. Morning, Bill. Yes. I am very well and in no pain. After having a catheter in for 7 months you can imagine how wonderful life has become.

    2. Hope everything goes well, Delboy

      Your brother-in-law might enjoy a conducted tour of the Bank of England. You could explain to him that the pink tail coats worn by the footmen are a recent innovation by the current Governor, a fellow fairy and close personal friend of Justin Trudeau.

      Just an idea.{:^))

      https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/bf45c9252fb2b4025af29f4a1471838d184d8760/51_291_5655_3395/master/5655.jpg?width=880&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=8b0de8b5592e601352ca718c1c6dee86

      1. It’s a very interesting museum, well worth the visit.

        He could also suggest that we are reintroducing the white fiver as a mark of surrender to the EU.

    4. Good morning Delbiy. We all hope you are feeling better after your op and are in good spirits.

    2. Andrew Castle mentioned that someone called the “21”, One Nation Tories. Well, I suppose that they do believe in One Nation but it’s the EU, not their home nation, the UK.

    3. How does this odious woman define the words ‘good’ and ‘moderate’.

      No wonder her late husband, A.A. Gill, found living with this foul harpy unendurable.

        1. Soon after the consummation of his marriage.

          Who could have lived without alcohol if he lived and did (as Shakespeare’s mad Edgar/Poor Tom o’Bedlam put it) the ‘act of darkness’ with this foul vixen?

          (A.A. Gill got into terrible trouble when he described a well-known BBC journalist as ‘the dyke on a bike. I wonder whether, if a homosexual presenter presented a programme about rambling, you would get into trouble if you described him as the ‘poof on the hoof’ or a female presenter as ‘the dyke on a hike’)

  22. ‘Morning, Peeps.

    Amber Dudd resigns, and in the process accuses BoJo of “a betrayal of democracy”. I wonder how she would describe the actions of the now infamous 21 for what they did last week to the government, their party and, above all, to the majority of the electorate who voted to leave the EU?

    1. Absolutely

      She is showing false outrage.. what a cloth eared twerp.
      And now we are confronted by the Marxist McDonnell.. why the hell is he talking about trust.. he is the one who wants a riot .

      How dare Labour talk about trust .. how dare they .

      Morning Hugh

    2. The remainers who talk about democracy clearly do not understand what most people think the word means.

      I wonder if they also have difficulty understanding what the words ‘traitor’ and ‘hypocrite’ mean?

  23. So Rudd goes.

    Has anyone else noted that these resignations are happening as slow drip feed, timed to get maximum Press, Radio and TV exposure? It’s as if the perpetrators are organising themselves to cause maximum damage to the Government and to the country by keeping the party divisions at the top of the news. I think they are out to destroy the real Conservative party.

    I can’t help hoping they will succeed and that a new brexit-conservative group will arise from the ashes.

    2. It was a stupid mistake for Boris to have put her in his government in the first place and it was an error of judgement to put any remainers in it as they are all just waiting for their best chance to damage him.

      When will the village idiot, Nicky Morgan resign? Today? Tomorrow? And does anyone trust Gove?

        1. Yup. Gove is just waiting to administer the coup de grâce. Cummings (always a closer pal of Gove’s than Boris’) is ready to blame Boris for not following DC’s Game Plan precisely and dooming all to failure. Fatty Sarah Vine has the DM prepped and ready to hail the new emperor.

      2. Well she only had a 300 majority and was not popular in her constituency so would have been gone soon anyway

      3. The next one will go the instant anything that appears positive about leaving the EU seems to be gaining traction.

        I think they will save Gove and other “big beasts” for any major EU problems, e.g a financial crisis or a major terrorist outrage.

        1. Anecdotal, but one of my friends had been down in London for his Lodge meeting and one of the Masons there, a German, had declared that if Brexit happened, he would be off. He has since returned to Germany. Does he know something we don’t, we wondered 🙂

  24. Harry rises early and dishes out wisdom

    BTL@DTletters

    Max Bonamy 8 Sep 2019 4:33AM
    Thoughts for the day:

    1. A system of Parliamentary government is not the same as government by Parliament.

    2. On Remainer hypocrisy: when Major prorogued Parliament he was egged on to do so by none other than… Kenneth Clarke.

    3. “The option to dissolve Parliament exists to protect voters’ rights. By refusing dissolution [and a resulting GE] Parliament is defying the people” – Vernon Bogdanor, the foremost constitutional expert (and a Remain voter as it happens).

    Thus the professor joins other constitutional experts like Professors Starkey and Roberts in explicitly stating the people are sovereign.

    *****************************************************************************

    Max Bonamy 8 Sep 2019 5:08AM
    4. In her resignation statement Amber Rudd says Bojo’s Brexit direction “will lead to violence on the streets”. No, refusing to honour the Referendum result will cause that. Indeed the clashes on College Green yesterday confirm it has already started.

    5. On intemperate and violent Remainer language [google]:

    a) Nicholas Soames on would-be Brexit voters in 2016: “like a growling Alsatian that bares its teeth they need kicking heavily in the balls”

    b) Nicholas Soames on JRM during Referendum: “he is repulsive”.

    c) Nicholas Soames on JRM lounging “I want to kick him in the *rse… the lowest form of student union hackery, insolence and bad manners”.

    2. I had read the text of the Rudd letter yesterday and could not recall the quote in Bonamy’s item 4. I checked this morning and the reason I could not recall it is because it isn’t there. Bonamy lies on this point.

    3. Another lie from Bonamy. When Soames used the growling Alsatian analogy, he was referring to the the weakness of PMs in not standing uo to EU leaders, NOT would-be Brexit voters.

    4. Yet another lie from Bonamy: Soames did not say of JRM “he is repulsive”. He said that his behaviour in lying across the HoC benches was repulsive.

  25. John McDonnell on Marr this morning, explaining Labour’s position. If they win the General Election, they will negotiate a deal with the EU, then come back and put it to the electorate in a referendum. The only choices on the ballot paper will be 1. Labour’s Deal. 2. Remain in the EU. Labour will then campaign to remain in the EU.

    Even Marr pointed out that the EU will not grant any favourable terms, because they know that Labour will campaigning to remain anyway! Marr also pointed out that ‘No Deal’ would not be a choice in Labour’s referendum. McDonnell replied to the effect that he knows best what is best for the country.

        1. Yes, she is not allowed to have an opinion and must take the advice of her Prime Minister -not that of lhe leader of the opposition.

          What the UK now has left of its sovereignty is vested in our Prime Minister.

  26. Tea-rooms but not much sympathy for rebel MP in well-heeled Cheshire. Sat 7 Sep 2019

    “They’re all traitors,” says 80-year-old Brian Gale, outside Ginger and Pickles tea rooms on the high street. “I’m pleased all of them were kicked out. Some of them were good MPs but they let the side down.”

    An odd piece this for the Guardian in that it mostly quotes the general line taken on Nottl. One suspects that the views expressed here would be duplicated in Labour constituencies which would make the Remainers look sick in either a General Election or another referendum.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/07/tea-rooms-not-much-sympathy-for-rebel-mp-antoinette-sandbach-eddisbury

    1. My little Bruv’s MP is the Sandbach woman. She is widely despised, but unfortunately it’s blue rosette on a donkey land.

      1. She is, I believe, going to stand in Eddisbury as an Independent. Good luck with that one! I understand from a mutual friend that her landlord has had several writs from her.

    2. He is playing a sharp strategic game ..

      He is clever .. I suspect he is saying come into my web said the spider to the fly.. Corbyn is the fly!

      The Labour party are in a greater mess than the Tories .. I suspect the Brexit party are mustering their energy and dominion!

    3. I do not trust Boris either. It does not matter how clever he is if he is working with the EU to bring down the United Kingdom. Causing political chaos is, in their eyes, a price well worth paying if we are left tied to the EU for another 5 years in “transition.” We won’t know if Boris is hero or traitor until he takes us out on a no-deal Brexit or brings back Theresa May’s Withdrawal Agreement with no backstop. The EU have just said that they are prepared to consider dropping the backstop after all, so it does appear that we are being set up once again. If it happens then we will finally know where he really stands.

      If the worst happens, then it is just a delay to us leaving. We can rip up the Withdrawal Agreement the day after the next election and then become a free nation again anyway. Unless people keep voting for EU employees such as Theresa May and keeping them in office. The choice will be ours, not theirs.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/236ccbb0d45bf3291b304b9fc1b3c9685f3d292182fc23f314e615408fb63b28.jpg

  31. In the twists and turns, propaganda, imbroglios, mysteries, betrayals, contradictions, puzzles, enigmas, riddles and conundrums………….

    ………………….all roads lead to Palindrome !

    1. On BBC2 tonight at 9pm and in case you were not already aware of it : “Conspiracy Files: the Billionaire Global Mastermind”.

  32. Lord Speaker

    The office of Lord Speaker was created under the Constitutional Reform Act 2005 when the historical roles of the Lord Chancellor were re-distributed and reformed.
    The Lord Speaker chairs daily business in the House of Lords chamber and is an ambassador for the work of the House. To date, there have been two Lord Speakers.

    The House of Lords is self-regulating, meaning that it has never delegated its power to regulate its own proceedings to any other authority.
    The Lord Speaker has no power to call Members to order, to decide who speaks next, or to select amendments.
    In practice this means that the preservation of order and the maintenance of the rules of debate are the responsibility of the House itself, that is, of all the Members who are present, and any Member may draw attention to breaches of order or failures to observe customs.
    However, the Lord Speaker does ‘collect the voices’ and calls for votes when necessary. ‘Collect the voices’ is the term for the process whereby the Lord Speaker puts a motion or amendment to a vote at the end of the debate, and tries to judge by the volume of voices which side has the most support.
    At the start of each sitting, the Lord Speaker processes into the Chamber and presides over proceedings from the Woolsack, the large square cushion of wool covered in red cloth at the centre of the Lords’ Chamber. It is stuffed with wool brought from around the Commonwealth.
    The tradition of the Woolsack dates back to the reign of Edward III when the wool trade was one of the most important parts of the economy, and so the seat is a traditional symbol of the wealth of the country.

  35. Any one know if their are any rules the Speaker has to follow. I have tried and failed to find any. There is sort of job description in the post below it contains this daft entry “The Lord Speaker has no power to call Members to order, to decide who speaks next, or to select amendments.”

    So the Speaker actually has no real power to carry out the key function of what in reality is a Chairman

    2. Yo P-T

      If you’re all going to be silly I’m going to watch my country destroy itself down the pub…

      Which pub?

    1. He is upset that he will not be able to stand as Conservative candidates which means he will not retain his seat

    2. i have an idea

      MP’s who are sifted and considered suitable for election should be given five years then their performance will be reviewed by the electorate who elected them and the local party . Simple .

      We will have no more of this right to a seat and winge mode and laziness , especially and in particular when they ignore the wish of the people who elected them.

    3. I wonder if he read his own Party’s manifesto before standing at the last election – if anyone “isn’t a Conservative” it’s the bunch of to$$ers who are voting against their own Prime Minister, after conniving with a foreign power to overturn the democratic votes of 17.4 million people!

  38. Good morning all.
    Letter of the month? — sorry if already posted.

    No, no, after you

    SIR – While I felt rather low this week as a result of the disgraceful goings-on at Westminster, my gloom was lifted by an act of
    common decency.
    As I was attempting to enter a shop, an elderly gentleman halted his car and politely gestured to me to cross in front of him. I was so
    impressed that I forgave the fact that the old boy was driving along the pavement in an effort to reach a parking space.

    John Kennedy
    Hornchurch, Essex

    1. I stop on the pavement all the time, now for cyclists on the road that is a different matter

      Yo Issy

  39. Should not the Speaker be totally Independent ie not an MP, In fact how can the speaker really represent his constituency?

  40. f it comes to a General Election how many more Conservative MP’s will be booted out?

    I would be pretty sure that any Conservative candidates for the next election will have to sign up to agree to the parties manifesto on Brexit either with a deal if one can be agreed or on a WTO deal if one cannot be reached

    How many of the current MP’s will refuse to sign up to that?

    2. Same way they said they would ‘respect’ the result.

      What they meant was respect it, then utterly ignore it.

  41. I’d take a no-deal Brexit over Old Man Steptoe any day
    JULIE BURCHILLhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/08/take-no-deal-brexit-old-man-steptoe-day/#comments

    Anyone care to post …..?

    1. The address wasn’t understood

      Firefox doesn’t know how to open this address, because one of the following protocols (burchillhttps) isn’t associated with any program or is not allowed in this context.

      You might need to install other software to open this address.

      2. Plum-Tart unfortunately did not leave a space between the surname “BURCHILL” and the start of the web page address, which caused it to be read as one item. This caused the error. Tony has put the correct address in though.

      3. Careless of me…

        I must be more pedantic
        I must be more pedantic
        I must be more pedantic

        Repeat…..

  43. It is the EU blocking a deal. They are refusing to talk trade and the reason for that is it would totally destroy their backstop argument

    1. What I wasn’t aware of is a coterie of thieves and traitos are trying to undermine the EU by having back room talks with it.

      Why on earth is the Eu even talking to them? They’re powerless, pointless wasters.

  44. I remember when my husband, a member of the Labour Party, voted for Jeremy Corbyn as leader. There was pouting, shouting, door-slamming – I hadn’t had such fun hating someone I loved since I was a teenager! But then the Brexit referendum was announced – to be held on June 23, my husband’s
    birthday – and while I know Brexit’s been a source of conflict for others, for us it was better than twenty sessions of marriage counselling.

    Both of us raised as Socialists, we bonded over our mutinous cleaving to the Brexit Party; though Corbyn had always been against the EU, it didn’t occur to us to unite over him. Instinctively we knew he couldn’t be trusted with anything valuable.

    In a political milieu where so many people know the price of everything and the value of nothing, it’s really remarkable to appear equally blank about both. And observing the swaggering gaggle of superannuated Conservative politicians who seem so cavalier about letting this sad-sack get his paws on power rather than allow the Prime Minister to carry out the will of the people, I’m inclined to believe that all political careers end in petulance as much as failure.

    I grew up hero-worshipping my Communist father in the constituency of Tony Benn; I still consider myself Left-wing, believing in nationalisation and an eye-watering level of inheritance tax. But there’s something about Corbyn which makes my flesh crawl and which has driven me, like so many millions of Labour voters – especially from Socialist strongholds in the North of England and the South of Wales – into the spivvy embrace of Nigel and the Brexit Party.

    What’s surprising is the people who’ve gone the other way – those, including analysts at major City banks, who are so obsessed with the Chicken Little vision of Brexit that they think giving JC the keys to Number 10 is a feasible alternative to letting Boris have a fair crack at getting us out. I – like Jeremy – would be happy to squeeze the banks ‘til the pips squeak. But I never thought they’d volunteer for it.

    As far as I’m concerned, Magic Grandpa’s only redeeming feature was his refusal to come out in favour of a Loser’s – sorry, People’s – Vote as agreeing with him about anything felt oddly dirty, like using someone else’s bath-water. Now he’s thrown his lot in with the rest of the elitist Remainers, things seem clean-cut again. If the Brexit Party didn’t exist, I’d have had to invent them as my imaginary friends to save me from the sad fate of being rendered
    politically homeless.

    Corbyn is unwholesome in every way a man can be. When he’s not sucking up to exotic murderers, he’s baiting British Jews or condescending to our
    other ethnic minorities – remember “Only Labour can unlock the talent of BAME people held back by the Conservatives”? The “Absolute Boy” of
    golden Glastonbury salad days increasingly resembles Steptoe Senior.

    After three years of looking like an offshore zoo of squabbling monkeys to the rest of the planet, due to the inability of politicians to do their job properly, the indignity of having this clown representing uson the world stage would be the final straw. The idea of living in a near-future country headed by him and his anti-West friends makes me feel like burning my passport and running off to join the Foreign Legion.
    Though I’ve always found Corbyn unreservedly a Bad Thing, I could never work out whether this was because I believe him to be evil or stupid. Now, as he plods through the end-game of his last grasp at power – rheumy old eyes never losing sight of Seamus to make sure he’s saying the right thing – both these words seem too big for him.

    Christopher Hitchens once called the anti-war rent-a-mobs which Corbyn cut his teeth rallying “the silly led by the sinister” – this suits him better.

    He’s not the Messiah – or the anti-Christ – he’s just a very silly, slightly sinister old man. It is staggering that anybody – let alone Tory MPs – thinks he could be worse than a no-deal Brexit.

  45. Government to challenge No deal in Court.It could be the court could issue an interim stay on that law.

  46. Brexit Central

    !What an extraordinarily depressing

    experience it is to be compelled to watch, at 12,000 miles distance, the

    contortions and machinations of the British political class as they set

    about their determined attempt to overturn the decision taken by the

    British people that they wish to leave the European Union.

    The pages of publications like The Guardian

    are replete with articles by “constitutional experts”, exploring the

    various arcane ways in which so-called “democrats” could manipulate

    constitutional and parliamentary rules and practice so as to frustrate

    the will of the people by preventing a “no deal” Brexit — and all this

    supposedly in the name of democracy!

    Let us be quite clear. The rearguard

    campaign to prevent a “no-deal” Brexit is merely a smokescreen for the

    real objective, which is to frustrate any Brexit at all and, in effect,

    overturn the referendum outcome. Despite protestations that they are

    committed to giving effect to the referendum, the Remainers’ actions

    tell a different story.”

    https://brexitcentral.com/we-are-where-we-are-because-remainers-have-collaborated-with-the-eu-to-prevent-an-acceptable-deal/
    The picture at the top is the best advert for high capacity magazines you will ever see…………

          1. In Malta I trust,having one of those in the UK earns you 5 years chokey
            (Assuming plod can find it {:^)) )

    3. Why does the EU even meet with them? Surely they are powerless and pointless, irrelevant.

      If they are conspiring against the people, then have Border force detain them, strip search them and throw them in jail as enemy combatants.

      1. Probably because we are better people who believe in freedom of speech.

        The sad bit is they don’t and have, at a stroke taken it from us.

  51. Went down to the beach in glorious, hot sunshine. The very moment that I was about to swim, black clouds hid the sun; blustery cold wind came from nowhere and it was bloody miserable. The sea was warmer than the air. Came out and made for home – as the glorious hot sun reappeared…. That God can be a barstard sometimes!

    1. “The Father causes his rain to fall on the just and the unjust; the sun likewise shines on the righteous and the unrighteous”.

      1. “The rain it raineth on the just
        And also on the unjust fella;
        But chiefly on the just, because
        The unjust hath the just’s umbrella.”

        ― Charles Bowen

    3. Yesterday was just the opposite over here. We enjoyed a nice relaxed round of golf in wonderful sunshine then just as we sat down to enjoy a beverage or two, the heavens opened. It was entertaining to see the rain moving across the lake towards us, knowing full well that the tardy golfers in yesterday’s tournament were about to get a hurry up call.

      Back to sunshine before we left the golf club so no danger of getting wet.

    1. They’re just liars and thieves who want the UK to keep funding the EU because they make a lot of money fomr it personally. It isn’t about anything more than greed. Comically, they won’t admit that.

      The only exception may be McDonnell, as he’s a nutcase communist and the EU is a communist organisation. It’s really no surprise he supports it.

  53. Rudd has stolen most of the headlines

    Meanwhile……………..

    “LABOUR was thrown

    into chaos today as a senior MP blasted Jeremy Corbyn for letting

    anti-Semites “hijack the soul” of the party and resigned.

    Veteran MP John Mann said he would never forgive the Labour leader over his handling of the anti-Semitism row as he stood down after 18 years in parliament.”

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9886290/labour-mp-john-mann-quits-jeremy-corbyn-anti-semite/

  54. Daily Brexit Betrayal

    “Let’s start with the article in the DT on the latest

    EU ‘negotiating news’. It’s by the resident Remainer, the DT’s EU

    Correspondent Peter Foster who has a host of EU ‘sources’. This is the

    crucial paragraph:

    “After this week the

    appetite to entertain and elaborate on such proposals in the EU is

    limited given the reality in London and the limited ambitions of its

    government for the future relationship,” a senior EU source said.”

    How many times have we heard and read

    that the EU is relying on the Remain Parliament to wreck Brexit! Since

    ‘rebel’ MPs have gone to Brussels to negotiate an extension, behind the

    government’s back – reported yesterday in the Brexit Betrayal’ column – surely nobody would expect the EU to give an inch to the government’s negotiators!

    I don’t need no crystal ball to predict

    that the Remainers in Parliament will use this latest report to clobber

    Johnson with, shouting that his negotiators are useless.

    Well done, Brexit Wreckers – that’s how to undermine

    your government on the international stage: usurp the government’s

    right to negotiate. And why should Brussels not keep on saying ‘non’ –

    they look forward to a new government to stop Brexit altogether. They

    must believe the chances for that are good, especially when they read

    about the unprecedented attacks on Johnson and his government.

    First up is Philip Hammond. He dropped his mask. See the DT report under this headline: “Philip Hammond tells his constituents ‘it’s my party and I won’t have it taken away’”.

    It’s now ‘his’ party – and apparently ‘his’ country which he wants to

    keep in the EU. Peasants like you and me, even if they are his own

    constituency party members, better just tug their forelocks and shut up

    Much more here

    https://independencedaily.co.uk/your-daily-brexit-betrayal-sunday-8th-september-2019/

  55. BREAKING NEWS

    A royal insider has revealed the real reason that Meghan Markle insists on flying in private planes. It seems she tried using commercial flights with wee Archie but had an unpleasant experience when a man seated nearby remarked to his wife “I hate to say this, but that is the most hideously ugly baby I’ve ever laid eyes on.”

    Meghan burst into tears and a stewardess hurried over to see what the commotion was about.

    “This man is being rude and insulting,” Meghan complained.

    “I’m sorry about that, ma’am,” said the stewardess, “I’ll have the gentleman moved to a different seat and I’ll give you a couple of complimentary drink coupons. Would that help?”

    Meghan was somewhat mollified with this and, wiping away her tears, thanked the stewardess.

    “You’re very welcome,” said the smiling stewardess, “and can I get a banana for your monkey?”

    1. Good afternoon, HJ/DM/VOB.

      That is a very cruel joke.
      I don’t deny it is funny but sometimes, just sometimes, perhaps we should reflect how we
      would feel if we were similarly insulted……….Yes I do see the irony when we are insulted
      daily by the EU…….but we are British, we are used to insults and thrive on them;
      Yer Yanks are more ‘precious’ but remain our greatest Allies and friends and……. [almost]
      speak our language!!

  56. I hope someone has explained to the England XI that they have the best part of two days to score the necessary runs – and that having a swipe is NOT the way to achieve that.

  57. The most important thing to me is having watched the Parliamentary proceedings for aeons with Philip Hammond sitting impressively, seriously, silent and poker faced next to Mrs. May, is that he suddenly found his voice and spoke. Effectively to say that over his dead body would Brexit happen.
    He should have emphasised that from the beginning, and saved three years’ time wasting.
    If you see what I mean.

  58. Of course, Boris is ignoring one tool the delicious irony of which would be true bliss: just arrest them all under the EAW.

    After all, the intent of the EU’s black bag law is to remove political dissidents, so just arrest the remoaners using it. No charges needed, no legal recourse, arrest for up to a month in a foreign jail. Let them stew and watch us leave the EU on TV: powerless, helpless and utterly remote – just how they treat their constituents.

  59. Spiked

    “Yes, we have now reached the ‘keep us in the EU or we will send you to

    jail’ stage of the Remainer tyranny. This furious, anti-democratic wing

    of the elite, who make up the majority of the contemporary

    establishment, has been drifting towards extreme authoritarianism for

    two years now. They openly discuss overriding the largest democratic

    vote in British history. They condemn newspapers that use strong

    language to describe Remainer extremism. They make deals with the European Union

    above the heads of the prime minister, the Cabinet and the people to

    ensure that we stay in the EU for longer than planned. And now they warn

    the PM that if he doesn’t follow a new law insisting on an extension of

    the Article 50 process – and of the UK’s membership of the EU – then he

    will go to jail.”

    More here

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/09/08/the-remainer-tyranny/

  60. Much is quite rightly made of the fact that the traitors in the Conservative Party are determined to thwart the democratic choice of the electorate.

    Less is being made of the fact that very recently Boris Johnson was overwhelmingly elected to the party leadership by both the Conservative Party membership and the Conservative Party MPs. Boris Johnson made no pretence of what he planned to do about Brexit, the backstop and putting ‘no deal’ back on the table before he was elected.

    It is a gross hypocrisy and a gross treachery that Mrs Hammond, Mrs Rudd are committing.
    What is left of the Conservative Party is well rid of such completely dishonest people.

    2. Somehow I don’t see “peaceful” and “blood letting” sitting easily in the same sentence…

  62. Wake up and smell the Coffey –

    ” In January 2016, an amendment intended to force rented homes to be
    maintained as “fit for human habitation” was defeated in parliament.
    Coffey was one of the 72 MPs voting against it who were themselves
    landlords who derived an income from a property “

          3. [An aside -I was using a self service till in my local Sainsbury’s a while back and having problems with the bl**dy thing. Eventually the assistant came over and I said: “Are you going to punish me?” She Said: “No way, have you seen the price of birch!!!”]

    12. Aaah, will we hear the spring of little saplings? What will she/it inherit when the other dies?

  64. From Conservative Woman website:
    Comments btl:

    “From The Times Letters Page:

    Sir – What country in its right mind would want to leave the world’s largest trading block and risk financial ruin by going it alone without a deal?

    What country, attempting to hold together a union of disparate political entities, would risk that union when many of its inhabitants do not support the break-up in the first place?

    What country’s leaders would be prepared to take a reckless leap into the unknown in the illusory hope of a brighter future, free from outside interference?

    The answer, of course, is the United States in 1776. They must have been insane.”

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/editors-pick-of-the-week-3/

        1. It was on the Conservative Woman website today. I just repeated it here.

          From somewhere in the North Sea….

          2. Probably not.
            We started in Sweden and are on our way to Amsterdam right now, so with luck we’ll miss her.

        1. You mean something like, “OK, chaps, never mind those German dams, target for tonight is the Berlaymont building”.

  65. My comment to John Redwood’s Diary – How Does the PM Break Free From his Parliamentary Captors this morning. Redwood looks at Johnson’s options to break the Remainer’s hold on him and Parliament.

    RAF
    Posted September 8, 2019 at 7:05 am | Permalink

    Sir John, one could have a tad more respect for people involved in a putsch than for this Remain cabal. At least with the former one would know their intentions even though despising their means.
    The Remain faction are cowards of the first order because they will not declare clearly what their objective is, although it is obvious to anyone who takes an interest in politics that their intention is to stop us leaving the EU by cancelling, one way or another, the Referendum result.
    Hiding behind their specious argument of Parliamentary sovereignty when their endgame is the very opposite i.e. entangling the UK within the EU forever, is hypocrisy writ large. It’s clear that Corbyn and his fellow travellers in this sordid deed are scared of the people and are prepared to deal with the EU to try and achieve their ends rather than appeal to the electorate for a mandate.
    Nigel Evans interviewed on LBC this morning declared that Labour’s support is falling. Surely it is time for Boris Johnson to ally himself and the Conservative Party with Nigel Farage and the Brexit Party to present a united Leaver front that is capable of sweeping the Remain faction away.

    1. I am glad to see that more and more people are beginning to agree with me that Boris Johnson will have to make a pact with Nigel Farage or he, the Conservative Party and the independent status of the United Kingdom will be lost for ever.

      (Daniel Hannan was beginning to become more rational but he does not yet understand this glaringly obvious truth)

      1. Yesterday there was news that the ERG have made tentative contact with the Brexit Party. As I see things it’s the only way to go if the Remain cabal is to be smashed and Corbyn be consigned to the dustbin of history.

        1. I agree, Korky, so long as they don’t lose sight of the golden rule – don’t split the right wing vote, the consequence of which would make the current shambles seem like a minor irritation.

          1. The news that Amber Rudd will be standing as an “Independent conservative” surely splits the centre and right vote?

          2. There isn’t much of a future in Hastings for any right-winger if I’m honest, so the question is probably academic for now.

      1. Thanks, HL. Last time I looked it was still in moderation but I’ve not had one rejected up to now.

  66. As always,Follow the MONEY

    “All the anguished adults; all the despairing young people; all the

    grammar school children frightened to tears and recriminations by

    lessons about coming doom, and death, and destruction; all the social

    strife and dislocation. All the blaming, all the character

    assassinations, all the damaged careers, all the excess winter

    fuel-poverty deaths, all the men, women, and children continuing to live

    with indoor smoke, all the enormous sums diverted, all the blighted

    landscapes, all the chopped and burned birds and the disrupted bats, all

    the huge monies transferred from the middle class to rich

    subsidy-farmers.

    All for nothing.

    There’s plenty of blame to go around, but the betrayal of science

    garners the most. Those offenses would not have happened had not every

    single scientific society neglected its duty to diligence.

    From the American Physical Society right through to the American

    Meteorological Association, they all abandoned their professional

    integrity, and with it their responsibility to defend and practice

    hard-minded science. Willful neglect? Who knows. Betrayal of science?

    Absolutely for sure.”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/09/07/propagation-of-error-and-the-reliability-of-global-air-temperature-projections-mark-ii/

    1. Thanks for posting. Fine BLT Comment on the Article’s publication page:

      William Haag: “I am hoping that the publication of this analysis is allowed, even though it is contrary to the ‘consensus’ of atmospheric scientists. If the ‘consensus’ is standing on a pedestal so weak that it need to resort to force to maintain its position, it is no better than that of the ‘Church’ when it burned Giordano Bruno at the stake for suggesting, among other things contrary to Church doctrine, that the sun, not the earth, was the center of our solar system, and that the universe had no center. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno”

      12:15 AM, 31 August 2019

    2. All the dark significance attached to whatever is the Greenland ice-melt, or to glaciers retreating from their LIA high-stand, or to changes in Arctic winter ice, or to Bangladeshi deltaic floods, or to Kiribati, or to polar bears, is removed. None of it can be rationally or physically blamed on humans or on CO₂ emissions.

      Greta is good at interpreting science – perhaps she should cut short her sabbatical leave, go back to school on Fridays and swot up on the science of forecasting errors:

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/648906746ee52419bb89ac1f947a35429ae3fad2f5a6e85df997ea33f382c8d5.jpg

      Greta’s revised projected life expectancy 50 ± 34 yrs

  67. …and to prove that our American chums do have a dry sense of humour – sometimes:

    A mother and her young son were flying Southwest Airlines from Kansas City to Chicago. The little boy (who had been looking out the window) turned to his mother and asked, “If big dogs have baby dogs and big cats have baby cats, why don’t big planes have baby planes?” The mother (who couldn’t think of an answer) told her son to ask the flight attendant.

    So the boy went down the aisle and asked the flight attendant, “If big dogs have baby dogs and big cats have baby cats, why don’t big planes have baby
    planes?”

    The busy flight attendant smiled and said, “Did your Mother tell you to ask me?”

    The boy said, “Yes, she did.”

    “Well, then, you go and tell your mother that there are no baby planes because Southwest always pulls out on time. Have your mother explain that to you.”

    1. That could explain what’s going to happen having let Greta read all those IPCC reports.

  76. Conservative to tear Up the Rule Book

    Well probably more a tradition. The tradition I that the Conservatives do bot put up a candidate against the speaker but they have said at the next election they will put up a candidate against him. meaning he will be out

  77. The Remainer tyranny. Spiked 8 September 2019.

    The Remainer elite is holding the country to ransom. It is blocking a democratic election as it conspires with EU officials to force through another delay to Brexit. It is silencing the people as it stitches up our votes and our demands. This is the most anti-democratic moment in the history of the franchise in this country. It is now essential that we stop referring to the 21 ‘Tory rebels’ and other Remainers in parliament and in the media as ‘moderates’. Because there is nothing moderate about trying to overthrow the largest act of democracy this country has ever seen or about threatening with imprisonment a PM who refuses to facilitate this overthrow. That isn’t moderate – it is extremist, reactionary and dangerous. These people must be stopped as a matter of urgency. We need an election so that we can clear out this class of people who hold the rest of us and our democratic rights in such open contempt.

    They aren’t moderates. They are agents of a Foreign Power. They are traitors not just in the pejorative sense but legally.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/09/08/the-remainer-tyranny/

    1. Those 21 were the “enemy within” now they are “The enemy over there who are still unaccountably being paid by the taxpayer to betray this country.”

      The media seem to love them though. I think that I have seen almost every single one of them being interviewed for their views on Boris and Brexit.

      1. MSM is not just being paid for by the taxpayer in this country. Possibly(even probably) some or many of the enemy over there are also being paid in addition to the taxpayer. Lock them up.

    2. Unfortunately they have the whole of the mainstream media on their side, so they won’t be getting any scrutiny any time soon.

  78. The Remainer tyranny. Spiked 8 September 2019.

    The Remainer elite is holding the country to ransom. It is blocking a democratic election as it conspires with EU officials to force through another delay to Brexit. It is silencing the people as it stitches up our votes and our demands. This is the most anti-democratic moment in the history of the franchise in this country. It is now essential that we stop referring to the 21 ‘Tory rebels’ and other Remainers in parliament and in the media as ‘moderates’. Because there is nothing moderate about trying to overthrow the largest act of democracy this country has ever seen or about threatening with imprisonment a PM who refuses to facilitate this overthrow. That isn’t moderate – it is extremist, reactionary and dangerous. These people must be stopped as a matter of urgency. We need an election so that we can clear out this class of people who hold the rest of us and our democratic rights in such open contempt.

    They aren’t moderates. They are agents of a Foreign Power. They are traitors not just in the pejorative sense but legally.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/09/08/the-remainer-tyranny/

      1. Which country is run by the people? None that spring to my mind immediately, except perhaps Switzerland – and that’s a cabal of corrupt banks, with the banks and the people of Switzerland living happily off that.

    2. In a way that’s fair enough – if bricks come through the window or other damage is caused to the property, it is the Landlord’s initial responsibility to pay. S/he then has to try to get the money back from the tenant.

    1. They’ve worked out we’re actually going to leave and the Mekon is trying to save face
      Afternoon Tony

    3. “…as EU diplomats expressed their frustration at being caught up in game-playing by the British government. In a sign of rising exasperation, the French foreign minister, Jean-Yves Le Drian, highlighted the lack of realistic proposals being put forward by Downing Street as an alternative to the Irish backstop. “It’s very worrying. The British must tell us what they want,” Le Drian said.” I’ll tell you what we want, what we really, really want – we want out of your undemocratic, corrupt EUSSR!
      And as for British game playing – words almost fail me!

      1. EU politicos don’t really get irony. Germans and French especially are not known for it, except on a very basic level.

    4. “The French government has threatened to veto a further Brexit extension due to the “worrying” lack of progress in the recent talks, as EU diplomats expressed their frustration at being caught up in game-playing by the British government.”

      The lack of intelligence of the EU is very disturbing. Or their opinion of our intelligence is wildly inaccurate. But then, they are made up of failures, borderline criminals, fraudsters and general bar-stewards. If you have a lack of morality and are prepared to sell your soul, then you can apply for a job with them and do well.

      The EU always has this approach, over and over again. It is as if they like to twist the knife by giving false hope just before snatching it away. We had little Macron bleating that he was going to personally block an extension to Article 50, right before Article 50 was extended.

      We had that robot with a French name, Barnier, who looks as if he should be standing in front of a Panzer as his Division is being refuelled and rearmed behind him, before pushing deeper into Russia. He said a week ago that there could be no changes to the Irish Backstop agreement. Two days ago the EU said that there was room to have it replaced.

      Now we have the “French Government” playing its role in the charade that is unfolding in front of us. There is no way in Hell that the EU will let us go unless WE decide to leave them. They will give extensions, drop backstops, do anything to keep our money flowing to Europe and our countries borders open.

      The EU itself is doomed as a long-term project, even as a mid-term project. They know it, we all know it. Their goal now is to survive for as long as possible and get as many followers of islam from Africa and the Middle-East into Europe. They will do anything to keep those borders open.

      1. They need us far more than we need them. They way we have been treated by them and the way remainers have crawled round them is repulsive.

        1. I care less about how they’ve treated us, as it’s par for the course.
          I care a very great deal about how our own side have treated us, how they’ve conspired, plotted, canned and schemes to betray us, for what is presumably benefit to themselves.
          They are scum, and I do not use that word lightly or flippantly.

    5. Drunker has said that a no deal Brexit would never be an EU choice. So what? It’s our choice that matters, not the EU’s, but certain unbelievably traitorous politicians here behave otherwise. That lot did not deserve any life that was lost or maimed in our history so far.

  85. Jesus Christ

    “SAN FRANCISCO, September 6, 2019 (LifeSiteNews)

    — The CEO of StemExpress admitted in court Thursday that her biotech

    company supplies beating fetal hearts and intact fetal heads to medical

    researchers.

    She also admitted at the preliminary hearing of David

    Daleiden and Sandra Merritt of the Center for Medical Progress that the

    baby’s head could be procured attached to the baby’s body or “could be

    torn away.”

    “That is an especially gruesome admission, but it begs

    the question: how did they get these fully intact human children?” says

    Peter Breen of the Thomas More Society, which is representing Daleiden

    at the hearing.”

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/mobile/news/stemexpress-ceo-admits-selling-beating-baby-hearts-intact-baby-heads-in-daleiden-hearing?__twitter_impression=true
    Planned Parenthood (typical leftard newspeak for abortion promoters) used Kamala Harris to prosecute undercover reporters who caught them doing the same

    1. Late term abortion. The child lives and is removed from the womb. It cries with its first breath as its head is crushed. If you show the pictures outside an abortion clinic in this country you are arrested and prosecuted.

      1. The mental image that your comment paints is one of the most horrific I’ve ever read on Nottle.

  86. Climate scientists in London University are predicting that in the next 4 months the UK could be heading for the coldest winter in 30 years.

    1. A few words which create a bit of scepticism:- “Climate scientists”, “University”, “are predicting”, “the next 4 months”.

      2. Migrating birds have no more idea of the weather to come than a sack of turnips does.

        They raise their brood(s) and when the young are ready to leave the nest, are able to feed themselves and day length tells them there aren’t enough weeks left to start another clutch, then off they go. Once they’ve bred it’s job done and there’s no reason to hang around any longer.

    3. Again like the said last year and the year before and t……. On day they may be correct.

    4. The article I read states that the Gulf Stream moves at 200mph, so I won’t trust the results.

      I think the reporter meant the jet stream, but even there the 200mph figure is too definite.

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7440117/Britain-braces-one-COLDEST-winters-30-years-Beast-East-returns.html

      Studying the jet stream has long been an indicator of weather to come, but new methods used by UCL researchers, measuring changes in sunlight and other factors that affect the 200mph Gulf stream, has allowed predictions to be made much further ahead.

      2. I remember some “scientist” explaining that the strenghened Jet Stream would cause delayed flights and increased pollution due to higher fuel use.
        Presumably he only ever flew in one direction…………………….

    1. The great Donald Pleasence used that wonderful voice to scare common sense into a generation of us who were children in the 70’s. We went into the world ever watchful for the Grim Reaper gliding about the fields. How any of us escaped those years without severe psychological problems is a testament to the resilient British character.

      If you showed some of the young snowflake protesters this advert they would faint on the spot.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb00H6mCTM8

          2. LOL – that was a joke? There is obscure and then there are those jokes that you need a Ouija board to find. 🙂

          4. Yes, I saw that at once. I didn’t realise it was meant to be funny. Whether the photo is from a film or not does not matter. Children did play during war-time, so nothing was “ruined.” 🙂

            I find that many of those old black and white films are far more entertaining than many of the Computer Generated “films” that are churned out at the moment. Also, David Suchet as Hercule Poirot and Jeremy Brett as Sherlock Holmes are series that I can watch over and over again.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b78af43c9269bcc9f06e9ab63edd6904ed0060b81965359754a8d60e1259c5df.jpg

    3. Our first child was brought home from hospital in 1981 in my wife’s arms, who was sitting in the back seat of my ancient Ford Cortina. She didn’t sit in the front seat, as we thought this wouldn’t be safe enough!

      Nowadays, apparently, mothers are not allowed to leave hospital unless they can prove that they will be taking baby home in an approved car seat.

  89. Deal or no deal to my mind is a politically motivated pony & trap issue
    making a mountain out of a molehill when the molehill does not legally exist.
    In my book the referendum proved that the peoples voted OUT of an odious situation they have NEVER been legally in, to begin with.
    This alternating political party for governing bodies selected from the
    anti English / GB lab/lib/con coalition is the wrong voting pattern to adhere
    to any longer, may one suggest that on entering the polling booth first put ones brain in gear before kissing a candidate.
    Dealing from the same deck guarantees a sinner & definition not a winner.

  90. As a change from the vexed subject of Brexit, here’s a theological puzzle to mull over.

    September the 8th (as I’m sure you are all aware) is the Feast Day celebrating the Birth of the BVM and this morning at Mass, while watching the priest consecrate the Eucharist, a curious conundrum entered my head. I’m not going to bore you with loads of quotes – all the relevant information is available online. Quaerite et invenietis!

    Here’s the thing; the Catholic Dogma of Transubstantiation, confirming the Real Presence, asserts that the bread and the wine, on consecration, become the actual Body and Blood of Christ, while retaining the outward appearance of bread and wine. It is not supposed to be a figurative represention but a literal and substantive transformation to be believed as ‘divinely and formally revealed’.

    So the conundrum is this. In all conscience, how can a Catholic be a vegan? If he were to deny transubstantiation, he would be a heretic and if he believed it, he would not, strictly speaking, be a vegan.

    I’m sure the Jesuit casuist, who has usurped the Seat of Peter, calling himself Pope Francis, will have no problem reinterpreting Holy Church’s Dogma to accommodate vegans. For a man who is capable of rewriting the ‘Our Father’ after two-thousand years, anything goes and everything is possible. I console myself with the certain knowledge that when the Satanic death cult of Islam finally takes over, the whole matter, together with Brexit, will become largely academic.

    Anyway, since it’s well past beer o’clock, I’ll leave you with that happy thought.

  91. Nicked

    This

    “I’m sick and tired of self appointed moral busybodies and assorted bubble dwellers telling me and other people what to think.

    In
    times gone by, proper democratic discourse – at times rude and polemic,
    at times suave and sophisticated, but always insightful, intelligent
    and with the eyes on the ball – took place where it belonged, in
    political parties, think tanks, in parliaments and newspaper opinion
    columns.

    Now, all we have is a 24/7 propaganda babble fest
    interspersed with faux outrage celebrity twaddle, airheads of all sorts
    throwing their tuppence in, then two minutes twitter hate and it’s
    presented with all the grace and levity of a pub brawl.

    What’s
    more: wherever I look, whatever I watch or listen to, it’s the same
    cliché opinions consisting of run of the mill phraseology and cookie
    cutter rhetoric straight from common purpose parrot school. It’s
    tedious, dumb and it’s not becoming truthful through endless repetition.
    And then we wonder why our political system is at breaking point.

    It
    was Wittgenstein I believe who once said ‘the borders of my language
    are the borders of my world’. That’s why a successful and happy
    democracy can’t do without free speech – for pushing its boundaries

    But
    what do we get instead? And what do we see in reality? We see an
    Austrian and an Italian government conveniently disappeared from the
    landscape and a British PM threatened with jail for eventually rocking
    the boat a bit too much.

    If those aren’t the signs of things to
    come, of globalism ruthlessly steamrollering any and all –
    democratically legitimised! – opposition, I don’t know what is.

    But
    yes, keeping the lid on it all now hinges on people accepting the MSM
    narrative as a truthful metaphor for reality. What a sad and bitter joke
    it has become.”

    1. Maybe you’re confused, Rikky ? You post about globalism and at the same time support people who rubbish the concept.

    1. Me.

      I swam once in Cornwall – sea freezing; bitter wind; hardly any sun. That was “summer” 1953. Can only have worsened since then.

        1. Each to their own. If you like very cold sea water – bully for you. Today, at Cap d’Ail – the sea is 25C – the air 28C. How is it your way (once you have taken off your wet-suit)?

          5. Not when you’re ploughing through a choppy sea on a Shearwater cat – you lose heat amazingly quickly if you are not wearing one.

      2. Who cares……
        After a delightful lunch, crab tarte with a hint of chilli and a chilled Pinot noir at a local bistro…..

  93. I think SWMBO must taking me to the theatre tommorow

    She has given me Moviprep to get me ready for it

  94. My second swim this arvo was better – the sun shone. There was a much stronger on-shore wind than forecast.

    Should be OK tomorrow – but rain all day Tuesday. Wed we go to Monaco to see the huge, classic sailing yachts.

    1. Here’s a tip, Bill. When it’s raining, swim underwater as much as possible to avoid getting too wet.

      2. Always hated diving in the rain. Not welcoming when you get out & get the wetsuit off…

        1. Wetsuit? Diving?? From a springboard???

          I can see that Weegie life is harder than I thought….{:¬))

  95. Sunday chuckle ahead of BBC R4 broadcast on thursday 9am … …

    Impartial Journalism in a Polarised World

    James Harding was editor of The Times and then took the helm at BBC News. After 2016, the Brexit referendum and the election of Donald
    Trump, he started to think that a different approach was needed, focused on slow news and opening up journalism. He set up Tortoise. In this
    noisy discussion, James and other journalists grapple with all of these matters, and attempt to navigate a digital future without losing our
    democratic past.

    He’s joined by the political editor of ITN, Robert Peston; staff writer on The Atlantic, Helen Lewis; presenter of BBC Radio 4’s The World this Weekend, Mark Mardell; Talk Radio host, Julia Hartley-Brewer; and Gavin Haynes, editor-at-large of Vice UK.

    GOT T BE A WND-UP!

  96. BBC2 9pm.

    Conspiracy Files:
    The Billionaire Global Mastermind?

    I expect Polly will be tuned in…

    3. Well that program should be enough to educate people that Soros is nothing more than an office boy, in charge of the paper clips and passing on others instructions. It is true that he is an evil b’stard with a lot of money who is trying to end democracy in the West by importing those who will remove it, but there are many of them about these days. He is just a “bullet shield” just like Merkel, Blair, May, Macron etc. Especially little Macron who is a puppet who has delusions of being a real boy.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8c753e4c1e22a45c0448f3351056e320a33323ea1f913bedf12a68a45c022339.jpg

      Those people who make the decisions and control the media would never allow such a program to be made about them. But Soros is an effective distraction. A lot of people seem to think that he is one of those near the top. Not that it matters. If he dies someone else will just take his place, and it will not be him that will be hammering on your door to force you to “convert or die” in a few years.

      2. I’m afraid you’re out of the loop there and of course this is a BBC production, so what does that tell you ?

          2. The few behind people like Palindrome. Perhaps certain old banking families in the USA could be contenders. It wouldn’t come from the slammers because they were nothing when Coudenhove
            -Kalergi etc put forward his plan. And Frankfurt School, Agenda 21 and all that. So many different strands (possibly unintentionally) leading to the same end result. But slammers have enough money now, and their own agenda.

            So you tell me, oh fount of political knowledge :0)

          3. Sure there are others but there is plenty of evidence about Palindrome and not so much about anyone else. He also looks highly organized and influential with a web which extends across the Western world. The story is so extraordinary that many people seem unable to believe it, no matter how much evidence is put in front of them.

    1. “UK “demands” that he gets a proper hair-cut and dental treatment before talks can start”

    2. I can pretty much guarantee that yer French bureaucracy won’t make it easy for UK citizens, whatever the outcome.

    3. The UK has been consistent on rights for EU citizens from the get-go. Not for UK citizens in the rEU however…

      2. One thing that May, Hammond, Grieve, Bercow, Nugee and Rudd all can agree on is that they detest and despise indigenous British people.

    4. So that is where the Greenham Common Peace Corps are

      MAD kept the Peace, not those Commy Lezzies

    5. The media have made a mistake recently by interviewing some of these Remainers that they find in the street. I have never witnessed such a lack of intelligence in members of the general public. They are shockingly misinformed about what leaving the EU means and they are on camera displaying their ignorance to the world. “I don’t want Costa Coffee to close” was one gem that we had from a “student” on our local news…

      Yet they honestly believe that they are smarter than we are and that we did not know what we were voting for.

      1. They all work to the same standard script. WE did not no what we were voting for and we know a lot more now and they repeat the same lies such as we will have no medicines o food which is just outright lies

    1. Cheltenham Ladies’ College didn’t exactly produce ladies sometimes.

      My mother’s best friend was a well-off woman in Kensington, who sent her adopted daughter to Cheltenham. She later had two children of her own with her second husband (also called Bill!) Because our mothers lived fairly close to each other, I was sent to “play” with this girl. To say she was horrible and a bully would be to put it lightly. She was also also a bit older than I, and boy did she play on that I liked her mother though….

      Her mother was lovely, and bought her daughter that record (which she played on a wind-up grammophone – great fun to see that). I thought it funny that it took a Chinese-sounding person to record0 the song, though, when I found out.

      When her lovely mother died, I saw the daughter at the funeral. A very short, bossy little madam who stank of cigarettes before you got within four feet of her. Yes someone had married this person and had given her a child. It’s true what mothers say “there’s someone for everyone” – however unlikely it may seem.

      The song just reminded me of her. Horrible little person.

      1. We have had several CLC girls with us over the years: most if them were charming.

        Funnily enough none of them had heard this song so they were delighted when I gave them an internet link to it.

      1. “Who’s the woman interviewing her”?

        SKY TV’s Sophie – she’s much better than BBC’s Marr…

  102. Testing, testing.
    Happy Apple Chappie has returned my laptop.
    He has given it a thorough going over (ooer, missus) but it is still throwing small wobblers.
    However, given that HAC has been with Apple since its inception, I think/hope that its innards are playing around (rather like after an abdominal op) and it will settle. Watch this space.

  103. Finding it difficult to reply. Messages in grey limbo… Might have to refresh myself…

        2. I used to like Dortmunder in the keg, imported by a few late-night bars years (edit I mean over four decades)ago. I remember one at the Fulham end of Earl’s Court Road, which let you in after 11 p.m.if you bought a meal – mine was always bratwurst, sauerkraut, and Dortmunder – delicious.

          1. The Bierkeller in Richmond (the cellar bar of The Castle) in the early 70s was open until midnight most nights of the week and would see the dregs of other pubs creeping into its bowels at 2230 hrs to imbibe steins of some German beer. Met my Swiss wife there under a table.

          7. Danes count in scores… And 70 is “half a score to 80” (halv fiers” (might be off with the spellung)
            Edit: @hertslass will know

          9. Strange thing about birthdays, Annie. When you are (say) 57 you are really in your 58th year. Same with centuries: the 20th Century is really the 1900s!

            PS – Sorry if the above confuses you – I forgot you aren’t too good at Maffs! :-))

      1. Not loading Chrome on my iMac. There’s a problem here that uploads to Disqus work just fine, but the same procedure totally fails going to NTTL.

        1. It works perfectly well on mine – I also run Safari. (Safari doesn’t work well with BBC iPlayer)

          1. I have no problem with the iPlayer, but we are restricted to radio programs – TV blocked for “offshore” users.

            Anyway, since Disqus allows me to “backdoor” into nttl comments, it’s no longer a problem.

    2. Nice to see the old girl still earning her keep.
      Provided it’s thought out properly, that sort of effort is probably more effective that a lot of Government efforts.

        1. Uploaded via the Disqus site. No problems at all. This was the pic of the plane doing aid flights to the Bahamas.

  105. Brexit Party Ready to do a deal with the Conservatives over which seats to contents provide they scap Mays deal and they get rid of the Remainer MP’s ,. The Conservatives seem to have got rid of the Remainer MP’s

    Interesting Brexit Party WE are Ready Video

    https://www.thebrexitparty.org/

    1. Pavlovian response from a Remoaner:

      What a clown! We’ll be on WTO so won’t have the same deals the EU has. WTOa disaster.

      He obviously doesn’t realise that we can negotiate an FTA with Oz in less than a year, rather than the ten years it took the EU. Oh, and a far better deal than the EU could negotiate, given it has to reconcile the conflicting demands of 27 members.

    1. “Book him, Danno, he’s old, stale, far too white and obviously served in the imperialistic colonial fascist forces prior to our current diverse state of federalist marvels.”

      2. “But he’s fierce and dangerous, I think we need back-up.”

        “Call in the hate crime units.”

        “And a dog team.”

        “And the SAS.”

        “And let down his tyres when he’s not looking”

        1. It is OK to attack him now,

          The Assisstant Commisioner has fled been moved to a place of safety

  109. Amber cRudd claims that 90% of Government efforts are concentrated on a no deal Brexit.

    Good.

    So they should be.

    If The EU is, as it will be, intransigent, we should be concentrating all our efforts, not merely 90%, on no deal.

    1. Hammond allowed no finance for ‘no deal’ planning hence the need to now redouble our efforts. Rudd knows this too well as she and her brother are prominent remainers and both have sought to frustrate Brexit all along.

      I doubt that Boris ever trusted Rudd with sensitive information in any event as there was always the chance that she would report back to her EU masters.

          1. No.
            Blair and the wrecking crew did more harm than you can imagine.
            What Blair sowed will sprout and harm the UK for years to come.

    1. Why does this happen? Possible causes:-
      1. Modern children are out of control.
      2. Modern parents cannot control their children.
      3. I’m getting old.

      I’m afraid to have to admit it, but number 3 is the most plausible explanation.

      1. Don’t accept any nonsense.
        Tell them that God made you bigger and stronger than them.
        They do as they are told, and if they don’t, tell them that you’ll send them back to mum & dad who won’t spoil them as you do.

        3. My mantra to the grandchildren when they were little, ‘my house, my rules’….it didn’t work so well with the cats and dog though!!!

  113. A busy couple of days.
    Transpeak Bus to Duffield & walk to Turnditch & Windley Show yesterday morning.
    A couple of hours at the show, with a couple of pints in the beertent, then a walk to the Puss in Boots for another pint where I did a couple of songs for the barmaid who remembered me from last year.
    Then a walk to Cowers Lane avoiding the main road and a pint in the Railway Inn just at the crossroads.
    Decided to give the DT a ring and suggested she join me for a Carvery dinner, so she & the two SaHs came and joined me.
    Rather tired when I got home and had an early night.

    Today, Drained the brine off a large jar of onions I’m pickling and added the vinegar & spices.

    Then up the garden for a few hours where I’ve been digging out & laying some concrete blocks on a wall I need to extend, did 5 or so hours or so all together. Stiff as hell when I finished so had an early bath, then peeled another batch on onions that are now sitting in brine for the night.

    A few pictures:-

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7739722a27c6b844b87391f6f5472e2725b075ca6efcd925397042db76753ef4.jpg

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dceb8431ac4f2e2194b504177d204818af3af6624100558d645200768c4f5478.jpg

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0986e74b2c4ae507166de12a73270ca19889f7decb8107d68a19c066efe7d206.jpg

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/98bcd320ae04767000bbe0c99a46247392d1e43996881106d7077270c06bdf89.jpg

    2. Looks like an old fashioned thrashing machine.

      Back in days of old, while the adults fed the front of the beast and then bagged the wheat, my job was at the back end of the machine gathering the chaff and detritus. As a seven or eight year old, getting covered in that much dust was seen as fun, especially since my mother would not tell me off when I got home.

  114. From the Guardian –

    ” PM battles to keep Brexit plan on track after Amber Rudd quit the government on Saturday ”

    Can someone explain ? She has disrupted his plans ?

    1. Following reports of heavy rainfall in China today the CBI membership committee voted to have another round of pastrami sandwiches at their afternoon break at their meeting in Manchester.
      Conflation of any two unrelated events can produce the most unlikely insinuations. Suggestions that would not stand up to rigorous analysis. However, if the full facts are not available, liars, spin doctors, and the Guardian can make very improper suggestions. It is the way of the MSM.

  116. Sigh.
    New feather duvet, new mattress pad, new pillows, fresh bedding… Lovely!
    Nighty night, all!
    💤💤💤💤💤💤

  117. Just heard on the wireless, Boris Johnson is going to Dublin tomorrow to meet the jobbie-jabbing Irish Taoiseach, Lee O’Verruca. The PM will investigate a pain-free way to remove Mr. O’Verruca’s troublesome ‘backstop’.

    Sounds like a dirty job but somebody has to do it, I suppose. Still, if Boris takes a first rate proctologist with him ………..

    1. Just like me, Conners. I only went out to water the garden at around 6.30 pm. The rest of the time was spent relaxing, reading and sleeping. What did you get up to?

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