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  4. Many children grow up today never having left towns and cities to see our beautiful national parks. 21 SEPTEMBER 2019.

    In 1820 William Wordsworth published his Guide through the District of the Lakes, telling of his fondness for the fells and valleys of the place in which he made his home.

    It should be, he declared, “a sort of national property in which every man has a right and interest who has an eye to perceive and a heart to enjoy”.

    Morning everyone. The headline implies that all children seeing the Lakes will fall in love with its natural beauty. After unwillingly accompanying scores of the little bastards on an organised school trip up to Stickle Tarn in Great Langdale, I can tell you that this is not so! The very idea of this; dragging kids out of school and turning them into nature freaks is just another educational delusion. You cannot teach an appreciation of beauty, either Natural or Cultural. The sad fact is that the majority of the population are Philistines devoid of any ambition beyond satisfying the basest appetites and its recent acquisitions actually hate both. My own inclinations are to fence off the National parks allowing access only to those who appreciate them. As to the arts, they are the products of a dying civilisation and will perish with it.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/09/21/many-children-grow-today-never-having-left-towns-cities-see/

    2. The definition of a nice place will be determined by its 4G signal and availability of a charging point surely.

    3. Morning Minty

      Yes agree with you.. they grow up and come into the countryside , pinch the sheep , steal fuel, farm equipment , set fire to heather, mutilate trees , dump rubbish , dump domestic animals, race their cars, off road their motor cycles , crowd our country roads with flash cars, show no respect for slow moving traffic … and dress up in lycra which closes our narrow roads off by assuming they can race and hog the place with time trials..

      Sadly, now the weather will be breaking this week, there will be no chance for the locals to enjoy the last remnants of this wonderful Indian summer because all our roads will be closed for the week end because an event called the Iron man is going to cause chaos everywhere here..

      1. Looking at Rainradar I tend to agree, there is a band of rain sweeping in across Southern Ireland and heading our way.
        You’ll probably cop it late this afternoon/evening and it’ll reach us during the late evening/early hours.

        1. We are off to the tip shortly , lots of garden stuff that cannot be composted down. Mohs foot and rib are giving him hell. .. He is being stoic , will he ride a motor cycle again, I don’t know.

          Re the weather , you would have appreciated the rough sea and blue sky in Weymouth yesterday .. blue sky today , but very breezy, building up to something I guess!

          Morning Bob .

    4. Introducing pop concerts into the Proms because it brings in a new audience who will then go on to explore classical music is another theory that runs along the same lines and has proven to be false. Box office records now being electronic, clearly identify who buys what.

    5. I’m beginning to agree.
      After my eye test in Matlock on Thursday, I walked back home from Cromford. Along the Via Gellia just out of the village I saw white items festooning a tree over the wall beside the pavement.
      Coming closer I saw they were shit smeared wet wipes and yes, you’ve guessed it, just over the wall was a shitty baby’s nappy.

  5. Mayfair cleared of homeless ‘tent city’ amid fears of crime wave. 20 SEPTEMBER 2019.

    On the Monopoly board, Mayfair is London’s most expensive property. Its streets are lined with grand townhouses, embassies and ambassadors’ residences standing shoulder-to-shoulder with some of Britain’s fanciest hotels and restaurants.

    But beneath this outward appearance of splendour, a crime wave has taken hold. Violence and anti-social behaviour are causing distress and alarm to wealthier residents. There are daily reports of robberies and muggings, while wilder claims – which have proved to be false – of multiple homicides abound, only heightening the tension.

    Added to the concern is a large, temporary encampment on Park Lane – Mayfair’s Monopoly twin – of Romanians and Bulgarians, who have been able to resist deportation thanks to a favourable High Court ruling.

    Ah the elites have discovered the downsides to living cheek by jowel with mass immigration and diversity. Solution. Clear them out and ship them off to live with the hoi polloi!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/09/20/mayfair-cleared-homeless-tent-city-amid-fears-crime-wave/

  9. US to send troops, equipment to Saudi Arabia as Trump announces new Iran sanctions after oil attack. CNN. 20 September 2019.

    Describing the attack as a “dramatic escalation of Iranian aggression,” Defense Secretary Mark Esper told reporters at the Pentagon that the troops would be “defensive in nature and primarily focused on air and missile defense” following the attacks on Saudi oil facilities attacks which Esper said “all indications are that Iran was responsible for.”

    “Right now we’re focused on helping the Saudis improve their defense infrastructure,” Esper said. The administration’s goal is to send a “clear message” that the United States supports its partners in the region, will defend the free flow of commerce through the Persian Gulf and demonstrate its commitment to the rules-based international order.

    This beefing up of The Saudi air defences was only to be expected after the attack on the oil refineries last week but there is another aspect to it that is not mentioned in this report. There is a rumour that the Saudi’s have offered the Houti’s a deal: no more drone attacks and we will stop the bombing! Now if true this would in effect be an end to the war in Yemen since the Saudi Army couldn’t beat two eggs together successfully and would allow for the transfer of air defence forces to the defence of Saudi proper. In other words they are preparing for War with Iran!

    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/20/politics/trump-announces-iran-sanctions/index.html

  10. Morning all

    SIR – I was troubled that the Government dismissed Nigel Farage’s offer of an electoral alliance earlier this month (report, September 12).

    Just because a constituency voted Leave, that does not mean it will vote Conservative. My religiously Labour-voting home town, Merthyr Tydfil, voted for Brexit in the referendum and for the Brexit Party in the European elections. I suspect that those Labour working-class heartlands in the North that also voted for Brexit are of a similarly traditional mindset and would never vote Tory. They would, however, vote for the Brexit Party.

    I trust that Dominic Cummings and his fellow strategists are not deluded enough to think otherwise, or we’ll see Jeremy Corbyn take power.

    Adrian O’Connor
    Ruislip, Middlesex

    SIR – It looks as if the Brexit Party is the only thing that can save the Conservative Party from itself.

    Richard Tracey
    Dinan, Côtes-d’Armor, France

      1. Caroline and I both send you and Carolyn our love.

        Christo is still passionate about hang-gliding and working in the aviation business; Henry is working in computers, studying for an M.Sc and living with his girlfriend, who is being paid while studying for a Ph.D at Lancaster University. They have just been out to us on Mianda in Turkey. We return to France for more courses in October.

  11. SIR – Extinction Rebellion protesters blockaded the Valero oil refinery in Pembrokeshire on Thursday.

    May I suggest that, instead of adding to pollution levels by causing traffic disruption, using the countryside as a lavatory and hindering people going about their lives, they get themselves to the nearby island of Grassholm and help to clear away the litter blown there on ocean currents? This would benefit the environment in general, and in particular our rapidly diminishing sea birds.

    Liz Livock
    Guildford, Surrey

  12. Morning again

    SIR – Your excellent obituary of Sir Michael Edwardes (September 18) should remind us of the failed industrial model represented by British Leyland, formed in 1968, which he was brought in to tackle.

    This model of a centralised industrial conglomerate was a product of the Labour governments of Attlee, Wilson and Callaghan, and constituted a huge missed opportunity for industrial development. In the same period, the model of capitalist innovation and entrepreneurship practised by the Germans and Japanese enabled those countries to achieve a decisive industrial advance.

    There are other examples of socialist failure. Wilson’s 1966 Industrial Reorganisation Corporation, set up to advance consumer electronics, facilitated the sale overseas of British expertise in ultrasound and nuclear resonance scanning. The Alvey Directorate, set up in 1983 to advance computer technology, achieved nothing.

    Now we have a Labour Party that has learnt nothing from these mistakes, and wishes to recreate the centralised bureaucratic structure whose failure has been so clearly shown up against the proven capitalist model of private enterprise and innovation. The myths of socialism live on, despite all the evidence.

    Anthony Pick
    Newbury, Berkshire

  13. SIR – During my many years on Gardeners’ Question Time, staying in modest hotels, I always hoped to find my beloved kippers on the breakfast menu (Letters, September 20). However, my predilection is for whole kippers rather than emasculated fillets and my inquiries about the items on offer produced a multitude of bizarre responses from waitresses.

    “I’ll ask chef,” the girl said, when I asked whether the kippers had heads and tails.

    She returned a few minutes later with the answer: “He thinks they once did.”

    Professor Stefan Buczacki
    Stratford-upon-Avon, Warwickshire

    1. I had a similar experience to the professor in a hotel in Stirling.

      I like my kippers intact with the bone still in. The presence of head and tail on the plate is not required, but the bone is. The tastiest meat resides there and is kept, like the cherry on a Bakewell tart, for last. My preference is for the magnificent Craster kipper, although in their absence lesser geographical brands will do.

      I was on a boozy fishing weekend with my mates – eat well, fish all day, drink until late at night. Repeat for three days.

      I saw kippers on the breakfast menu and fancying a change from the bacon and eggs etc I asked the waitress if they were proper kippers. She asked what I meant. I said ‘kippers with the bone still in’.

      She looked a but puzzled, but replied that they were proper kippers.

      I ordered them.

      She brought a plate of boil in the bag kipper fillets.

  14. The Great Climate Change Scam

    I see the school children were having another day bunking off school. I bet you ill not see them protesting during weekends or on school holiday

    Interestingly nearly ll these children with be chauffeured to school by car and take a couple of overseas holiday a year travelling by air

    Ask any of them to explain the theory of Global warming and you will get a blank look and they will resort to their well rehearsed slogans

    Has anyone seem any real scientific data measuring an increase of CO2 in the atmosphere ?

    Then we have the Great Carbon Offsetting scam where you can pay to have your CO2 offset. Much of it is pure scam but when it takes place it does not work. WE are told that CO2 once in the atmosphere never disappears. Well about 95% occurs naturally but it appear that does not count but let get back to this Carbon offsetting. So I produce some CO2 in the UK and I can pay some cash for some trees to be planted in say Brazil. Can anyone explain how trees in Brazil will offset the Carbon produced in the UK. Will it travel all the way to Brazil to be absorbed by this trees or will it go up into the atmosphere ? Answers on the back of a postcard

    The Methane scam. We are told that cattle are a problem because they produce methane but methane is a good gas and it does not get absorbed into the atmosphere. Most methane as well occurs naturally in wetlands and marshland and lake in fact any rotting material produces methane. It can be found in mines and in landfill and in household and garden waste and compost heaps and hay and stray etc

      3. Bob, you might want to look at this too – 100+ scientists saying that the science isn’t settled! It’s a little dated (2012) but interesting!! “Climate changes naturally all the time, sometimes dramatically. The hypothesis that our emissions of CO2 have caused, or will cause, dangerous warming is not supported by the evidence.”

        https://business.financialpost.com/opinion/open-climate-letter-to-un-secretary-general-current-scientific-knowledge-does-not-substantiate-ban-ki-moon-assertions-on-weather-and-climate-say-125-scientists

        1. The difference between science and religion is that science never stops trying to disprove the hypothesis.

          Religion accepts on blind faith. The green scam is thus a religion, not a science. Science is never, ever proven, let alone settled.

          1. Science is never, ever proven, let alone settled Ain’t that the truth – a good half of the Physics I learnt is now wrong – in 40 years or so it may well be almost right again – who knows!!

    2. You mention Carbon offsetting. From each £1, 60p will go in renumeration for the directors, 25p for Brazil’s Government Development grant – lots of dams, roads, and forest clearance for new ranches, and 5p might be spent on a sapling planted in a bucket in a slum, which will wither and die as soon as the money is spent. The other 10p? Nobody knows where that goes.

  15. Good morning thinkers..

    Michael O’Leary, Chief Executive of Ryanair after arriving in a hotel in Manchester went to the bar and asked for a pint of Guinness.

    The barman said, “That will be £1 please, Mr. O’Leary.”

    Taken aback, O’Leary replied, “That’s very cheap,” and handed over his money.

    “We do try to stay ahead of the competition”, said the barman. “We have the cheapest beer in England”.

    “That is remarkable value”, Michael comments.

    “I see you don’t have a glass, you’ll need one of ours. That will be £3 please.”

    O’Leary scowled, but paid up. He took his drink and walked towards a seat.

    “Ah, you want to sit down?” said the barman. “That’ll be an extra £2. If you’d pre-booked it would have cost £1.”

    O’Leary swore to himself, but paid up.

    “I see you’ve brought your laptop” added the barman. “That wasn’t pre-booked either, that’s another £3.”

    O’Leary was so incensed and his face was red with rage.
    “I’ve had enough! I insist on speaking to a manager!”

    “Here is his e-mail address, or if you wish, you can contact him between 9.00 am and 9.01am every morning, Monday to Tuesday. Calls are free, unless answered, then there is a charge of only £1 per second”.

    “I will never use this bar again”.

    “OK but do remember, we are the only hotel in England selling pints for £1.”

      1. Morning Grizzly.

        You’re probably right. I moved the can to get the sun and it was almost full.

        A local character told me a crate-full of the stuff had fallen off a yacht heading for the Big Apple the other week.

  17. Momentum sound like the nasty communists they really are..if my thinking is correct .. they want to remove Tom Watson by dissolving the role of deputy leader ?

    1. Only a temporary dissolution, Maggie. The position will be resurrected as soon as Momentum have a chance of filling it.

  18. WE have seen the split in the Conservatives come to a head but now Labours split is comming more out into the open

    Bid to oust Labour’s deputy Tom Watson

    Labour’s Tom Watson is facing a fresh bid to oust him as deputy leader by abolishing his post.
    An initial move was made at the party’s National Executive Committee (NEC) meeting on Friday but it failed to get the two-thirds majority needed.
    A further attempt is set to be made on Saturday at the party’s conference.
    It is understood the motion was tabled by Jon Lansman, founder of Labour grassroots group Momentum.
    The campaign group was set up to support Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership of the Labour Party.

    1. Tom Watson is calling it a DRIVE BY SHOOTING..

      So if the B########s get into power you know the direction the country will take if these Momentum people start behaving like Hitler Youth!

    2. The Labour Party is actually three distinct parties:

      1. Red Flag Traditionalists. The Trade Union Nationalisers marching for workers’ rights and outside Scotland and London largely Leave, although they can be bought. They want well-paid jobs, lots of them, and in Britain, not in bloody Slovakia or China.

      2. The Smartphone Young Radicals. Corbyn Youth. These are up-to-date with the latest campaigns from 38 Degrees, Extinction or Rebellion or whatever. They feel they are the future, and do not like the legacy they’ve been left by their “elders and betters”. They like Corbyn because he’s been kicking against the Establishment for decades.

      3. The Blairites. “New” Labour, which is now Old Hat. These make up most of the parliamentarians and are concentrated around the North London dinner set, and have strong allies in the media, in finance, with LGBT and are fiercely pro-Israel, which can do no wrong.

      Is there anyone that can hold that lot together?

        1. Woops! Indeed I did. Comes of living in an English village – I like to forget they are there.

        2. Slammers have nearly entrenched themselves enough here so as not to need Labour any more. Once they form their own party (which is inevitable) Labour will sink. Actually, we will all sink, bit that is another matter.

    1. And climate change happens because too many unicorns are jumping up and down causing seismic friction that heats up the Earth. People will spin anything if there’s corporate money in it.

      While the effect of burning fossil fuels may be up for debate, 7.7 billion people having aspirations to live like Americans when only 3 billion might have had in 1960 cannot be denied, and that must have consequences.

      So too must be the wholesale destruction of the Earth’s great tropical forests in order to make space for “development”.

      I do wish the Brexit Right would stop their hate campaign against environmentalists. I am myself a Leaver environmentalist, and it was my vote that pushed the Referendum over towards Leave.

      1. I suppose I am Brexit Right and I do not hate environmentalists. I am, however, very pleased that NASA has exposed the fraud perpetrated by so-called climate scientists and some environmentalists who have jumped on the bandwagon.

        1. It seems a bit late, after the so-called climate change bandwagon is now so thoroughly established.

      2. Well the issue is not that we need to take care of our planet. That is surely obvious. My view is that the actions being take in respect of “climate change” are nonsensical. Of course we should eliminate plastic, but we should not be building wind farms or electric battery powered cars.
        Our main issue is the destruction of forests. Palm oil was unknown in this country 60 years go. Now it is ubiquitous. It is the cheapest edible fry. It is very profitable. It is now everywhere.

  20. SNP are considering phasing out the Scottish Oil Industry by 2030 as a part of making Scotland Carbon neutral

    Well that should go down well i Aberdeen

    2. Because many of the “givers” of our nationality are of foreign extraction themselves. The more of their own they can get into our lovely country, the better, they seem to think.

  22. Green Party is proposing to price you out off flying

    Ist Flight Ok, Second flight they double the tax , third flight they treble it etc. That should bankrupt a lot off companies

  23. Labour Party Conference kicks off today in Brighton

    Usually nothing much happens on the first day

    2. Just because somebody is stupid does not mean that one should not feel sorry for that person.

      Poor Prince Harry may be thick but he used to be an affable cove, liked by the general public and respected by his fellow soldiers.

      The poor sod has completely f*cked up his life. I really do feel sorry for him.

      2. I’m afraid I don’t. He is hoisting her on us. If he went away and lived quietly with that D class actress, then well and good – but she is using him. That’s actually unpleasant for some British to witness – it must have been like that with Edward VIII and Wallis S. only it’s worse now, because Meeagain gets so much publicity.

        He made his bed – I resent having to pay for it. If he is stupid, then it should be him, and only him, who suffers for it.

        1. The similarity in looks between Meghan and Wallis is quite striking. I think she has modelled herself on that career.

      2. She identifies with her own culture, she seems not to sympathise with us whiteys apart from Prince’s and Downton Abbey, the fantasy life that is now her reality!

  26. Comment from ‘Going Postal’:

    TheOnslow • 15 hours ago
    In my daughter’s class today 5 kids – some friends of hers – got up and said we are going outside for a Climate protest(with the Head Teachers permission!)the Geography teacher asked my daughter if she was joining them. She said ‘No, I have discussed this with my father and he tells me that the Earth goes through phases of warmer periods and cooler periods and we are currently going through a period of warming up linked to solar flares’ the teacher said ‘your father is correct, and then went on to debunk climate change for the 20 odd kids left in class’ ….. extra gruel for her for dinner tonight!

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    JimmySP Esq. TheOnslow • 15 hours ago
    *teacher disappeared by Monday*

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    Last Englishman in my street JimmySP Esq. • 13 hours ago
    Child’s place in school in danger next week.

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    https://disqus.com/home/discussion/goingpostalcom/the_history_of_pop_music_1992/

    1. Just the kind of aggressive soab who might actually write a suitably scathing report on the Nick fiasco.

      On a more serious note how on Earth the Authorities can justify such an appointment is beyond my ken.

    2. The mind boggles – in most other jobs assaulting someone would get you sacked!! Here though – “outstanding career … no further action … new £150K post“

      1. Not where I used to work. The boss there was a complete bully – he would give people a thorough verbal personal hammering in front of all their colleagues. Once I even went in to someone who had been hammered in this way and said: you know that we ignore what he says – he’s just a bully.

        Having made his way into the firm from a position in insurance, (it was a new subject, and there weren’t many around in the field), he abused his position, making everyone under him work harder so that he could take the credit, while being so rude that I couldn’t believe it, sometimes. On one occasion when he was in my office and I queried something he was doing, quite gently. He told me I was negative and threw a ruler at me. Luckily for him, it just missed me. I left the room with him shouting my name to come back, only saying “physical violence doesn’t add cogency to your argument”. And left the firm – which was all one could do in those days.

        I believe he was encouraged to leave the firm a few years later. Too late, though for those who had the misfortune to work with under him.

  29. Adventures of Lucy Harris on the Eurostar:

    Lucy Harris
    ✔
    @Lugey6
    · Sep 19, 2019
    Lol on the Eurostar the guy across the aisle from me turned to the guy next to him in conversation & said “As long as you’re not a Brexiteer I’m fine with you!” – Can’t wait to break the news to him. How utterly DELICIOUS.

    Lucy Harris
    ✔
    @Lugey6
    So I say “Sir I couldn’t help but overhear your conversation, just to let you know you know you’ve been sitting next to a Brexit Party MEP the whole way…..

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    7:32 PM – Sep 19, 2019

    1. I suppose even after brexit Eurostar will survive. Civil servants will continue to find pressing needs to visit the restaurants of Brussels for important meetings with those still in the EU. Without them it would not be viable, the same as first class rail travel in the UK.

  31. The week on Guido, a summary:

    This week 388,934 visitors visited 1,141,374 times viewing 1,762,133 pages. The top stories in order of popularity were:

    Electoral Commission: Remainers Broke Electoral Law
    Boris Heckler is Labour Activist, Former Emily Thornberry Staffer
    Lib Dem Candidate Implodes in Interview After Insulting Her Potential Constituents
    Lib Dems Applaud Call for EU to Become an Empire
    Lib Dem Candidate Resigns After Car Crash Interview
    Remainers Turn on the Lib Dems
    Luxembourg Rejected Request for an Indoor Press Conference

    https://order-order.com

    1. It is a good sign that people are focusing on stories that show the globalists up for what they are and what they are trying to do.

  32. Let’s lower the tone – mainly marital bliss:

    Went out last night and got really pissed and wasted.
    I woke up next to a fat chick who was snoring and farting.
    At least I got home OK!!

    The wife’s back on the warpath again. She was up for making a home movie last night and all I did was suggest we should hold auditions for her part.

    I’ve accidentally swallowed some Scrabble tiles. My next shït could spell disaster.

    My sister-in-law sat on my glasses and broke them.
    It was my own fault.
    I should have taken them off.

    I spent a couple of hours defrosting the fridge last night. Or “foreplay” as she likes to call it.

    After both suffering from depression for a while, me and the wife were going to commit suicide yesterday. But, strangely enough, once she killed herself, I
    started to feel a lot better.
    So I thought, “Fück it” – soldier on.

    I woke up this morning at 8 and could smell something was wrong.
    I got downstairs and found the wife face down on the kitchen floor, not breathing!
    I panicked. I didn’t know what to do.
    Then I remembered McDonalds serves breakfast until 11.30.

    The other night, my wife asked me how many women I’d slept with. I told her, “Only you. All the others kept me awake shaggin’ all night!”

    My missus packed my bags and as I walked out of the front door, she screamed…”I wish you a slow and painful death you b***ard!”
    “Oh” I replied, “so you want me to f*****g stay now!”

    A girl I know said the last time she had sex, it was like the men’s Olympic 100m final.
    I laughed, “Over in 9.5 seconds”?
    “No” she said “Eight black men and a gun”.

    Catholic boy in confessional says, “Bless me Father I have sinned, I masturbated while thinking about my sister.”
    “That’s a disgrace,” said the priest, “especially when you have two gorgeous brothers.”

  33. Thought for the day:

    Since every pound we spend generates CO2, shouldn’t Jeremy Corbyn be praising ‘austerity’?

  35. EDDIE Izzard loves a challenge but now he is preparing to say goodbye to comedy and take up his toughest task to date. Jamie Walker caught up with the Sussex-born comedian.

    THIS could be one of the few chances people have left to see Eddie Izzard perform stand-up comedy.
    The 57-year-old has made no secret about the fact that he would love a career in politics… not least as an MP for his beloved Labour Party.

    “I don’t have a set date to start a political campaign, but this is probably my last tour before politics,” Eddie explains.

    4. He didn’t fare so well during the referendum campaign, when he appeared on QT…And an audience member told him to shut up. 😁

    5. Comedians can earn surprisingly large sums of money, but at his age Mr Izzard may have realised that a Parliamentary pension might still be within reach, and a life peerage could produce enough attendance allowance (£305 per diem) to keep a chap happy.

      We are re-living the eighteeenth century, with sinecures and massive corruption.

  36. Live updates as fire breaks out in Pankhurst Avenue, Brighton

    Businesses and residents living nearby are being urged to keep their windows and doors closed due to high volumes of smoke in the area

  39. A10 traffic: Everything you need to know about plans for the A10’s ‘clean air charge’

    A new Clean Air Zone on the A10 in Broxbourne is set to be implemented, seeing drivers of the most polluting vehicles paying £10 a day at least.
    The government have found the south section of the A10 to currently have air pollution in excess of EU standards, prompting the response to try and improve air quality.

    Rather than introduce improvements to sustainable transport, speed restrictions and the A10 junction – which Hertfordshire and Broxbourne councils suggested – the zone will be introduced to reduce pollution in ‘the shortest time possible’.

    However, residents and businesses in Broxbourne, as well as a few other groups, may be exempt from charges depending on the success of the scheme.

    1. Here’s a radical idea: stop all immigration and give the Lefties an attack of cognitive dissonance.

    1. This afternoon, I was sunning myself in the gardens of the Rijksmuseum, Amsterdam when thiis little bird flew over. It was a snap shot, but it sure looks like a Dakota. I’m not sure if it was related to the events at Arrnhem but I suspect it was. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c0518655206df0af3e6eda402aa516ab12946404793a1103622c57567daf67f1.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/92f340300162ae7cda92cd736266cf00cadb13d15a095f796b16457e28b35ffa.jpg

  41. British holidaymakers scramble to get home as Thomas Cook is on the brink of giving up hope of private rescue deal and government is due to reject plea for a bailout

    Looking as if it is now only a matter of time before they fold

    1. These climate scammers should have a lot to answer for, but they’ll be rich and protected within their gated communities.

  43. Good morning my friends. It seems that the only way to get a letter published in the DT is to go sailing in Turkey!

    The Conservative Party has lost trust – people do not believe that it believes in a proper Brexit.

    When Mrs May first produced her Surrender Withdrawal Agreement Jacob Rees-Mogg declared unequivocally that it would turn Britain into a vassal state to the EU. And yet both he and Boris Johnson both voted in favour of Britain’s vassal state status the third time it was offered.

    Nigel Farage has never wavered or shifted his ground over his conviction that Britain must have a clean Brexit. This is why he is trusted and the Conservative Party leaders are not and why, without The Brexit Party’s support, the Conservative Party will soon be finished.

    1. May’s WA was an awful idea when it was first put to a vote and it remained an awful idea through votes two and three. Why many Tories who had vehemently attacked the idea and then voted for it to achieve the non-Brexit it offered remains, to me, a mystery. As far as I can remember only one backslider has come out and apologised for his actions, Richard Drax was big enough to stand up in the House and declare that he had been wrong to support this abomination.
      The WA still sits there as the EU’s, and May’s, punishment for the UK daring to want to leave the EU’s clutches. The idea that Johnson is capable of convincing the EU to make sufficient changes to make both it and the Political Declaration acceptable is risible. If he is seriously trying to bring the WA back then the result will only be a fudge and do great harm to the UK and likely terminal harm to the Tories. Of course, he could be running down the clock to 31/10/2019 when the superior law of the EU takes effect and the UK will be out by default. If he is planning to run down the clock then his rejection of a deal with Farage makes sense; if he agreed a deal it would soon be in the public domain and expose his ruse.

        1. If Johnson’s ruse is really to leave by using the EU’s own law then the UK will be out of the EU and free from any ties with Brussels. With the Brexit Party support that would follow such a move Johnson would be in a very strong position whenever a general election is called.

          1. The problem is that Boris and his party are perceived as playing games with Britain’s future.

            Unless and Until we are convinced that a proper Brexit is what the Conservative Party wants neither Boris nor his party will be trusted.

            Few politicians are capable of stirring the adulation which Nigel Farage stirs. He is by far the best orator of our time and is loved in a way that Boris never will be.

      2. Richard Drax was the one who saw the error of his ways on the Vassal state WA and apologised.

        John Redwood, Owen Peterson, Steve Baker, Bill Cash and Mark Francois are amongst the few stalwarts in the Conservative Party who remained loyal and faithful to a proper Brexit.

        Any loyalty and faith owed to the Conservative Party has long been used up. Why don’t these MPs stand down and then present themselves again as candidates for the Brexit Party? It might put a much needed cat amongst the pigeons.

    2. Morning R,
      UKIP have never wavered in 27 plus years in their quest
      for total severance from the eu & nearly as important
      controlled immigration plus a factual take on islamic ideology.

      1. Good morning, ogga

        Infighting destroyed UKIP and let us hope it will destroy the Labour and Lib/Dem parties as well.

        Ultimately a proper Brexit is more important than any political party – do you not agree?

        1. R,
          I totally agree to Brexitexit being the main concern.
          As for UKIP being destroyed via infighting I do not agree to, inside forces ( NEC) working for
          outside forces is what is occurring currently and the fight is on to rectify that.
          The lab/lib/con have been a daily building eu
          coalition since the mid 70s that has now come to a political boil at bursting point.
          These parties have taken the electorate to the wire and the electorate are still, today, not sure of the outcome.
          I have trust in the UKIP party, do the electorate
          have trust in the lab/lib/con, mass uncontrolled immigration, PC / Appeasement
          pro eu coalition ?

        2. By the by R, check out the founder members view,
          Additive to her list is islamic ideology.

          ://twitter.com/blaiklockBP/status/1174609280877694977?s=20

        3. The derogatory use of “Brexitexit” is the Freudian slip that gives away it’s deeply held anti Brexit sentiments.It should also be noted that it professes? unequivocal support for a leader / party that it knows has little chance of any achievement whilst doing all it can to denigrate those who do have a good chance of delivering Brexit.

    2. Those people who are prepared to do jobs like this are helping councils and governments to slowly crush “decency” out of society. £100 is a great deal of money to many people.

      1. Surely you could refuse to give any identity details – what are they going to do if they don’t know who you are? It’s not like a car registration to track.

        1. They would probably get you for obstructing the police in the course of their duty or some such mealy-mouthed excuse.

    3. There was a nasty clip on youtube 4 or 5 months ago, when they were using those “soft weapons” to disperse protesters, and people were losing eyes when the rubber balls exploded from the projectiles the police were firing at them. One poor sod thought that it was a smoke grenade and instead of kicking it back towards the police he picked it up to throw it back.

      The thing blew his hand apart when it went off and he was stumbling towards the camera, clearly in shock, with only one finger still attached to his palm. The wonderful world of citizen control in the EU. Not in the future, but now. We will certainly see this on our streets as well if we do not get a clean break from this evolving police state.

      1. But the good news is that yer French Home Seketry says that the police were in no way to blame for any of the injuries sustained by “far-right” activists…. Despite the multitude of video evidence…..

        Such a relief.

      2. Thousands have been injured. The last figures I saw included one dead (beaten by police), and 22 people losing eyes.

    1. Is that Mary [sorry: “Cary”] Grant?

      I could never tell the difference between her him and Mock [sorry: “Rock”] Hudson. Same haircut, same bearing, same Nancy-boy proclivity.

      1. Archie was a better actor and had more class than ‘Rock’ who was, it turned out, a nasty predatory homosexual. The Nancy-boy proclivity appears to have been quite common within the Hollywood ‘tough guy’ actors but kept secret from the public.

  49. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/before-you-go/10-reasons-move-belgium/

    10 reasons to move to Belgium

    (Not a wind up)

    This mutuality and fairness to all is intrinsic to Belgian culture. Medical care is state funded, propped up by private insurance costs which vary according to personal income. While private clinics do exist, they are rare. Many doctors practise integrative medicine, meaning that patients have the freedom to choose between traditional and alternative healthcare options.

    Belgian equality is perhaps most evident in its childcare. State funded schools from the age of two-and-half and heavily subsidised kindergartens ease the burden of parents returning to work. Kraamzorg, a subsidised post-natal care service, supports mothers for the first three months after the birth with everything from washing the dishes, to measuring the circumference of the baby’s head. Meanwhile, a subsidised household help scheme is available to all, including those without children. Under this system, one hour of cleaning or ironing costs €9, and at the end of the tax year 30% is refunded by the state.

    All this comes at a cost. Tax rates are some of the highest in the world, with those earning over €40,480 hit with 50% rates. However, senior expats working on a temporary assignment for an international group benefit from a special tax status which classifies them as non-residents. It gets better – they also enjoy rebates for one-off costs while setting up their new homes. Thanks to yet more favourable tax incentives one in three of all employees in Belgium have the use of a company car, although the government is now promoting more environmentally friendly alternatives.

    Belgium is such a great place to live that many expats choose to stay on permanently. Every month 90 Britons apply for Belgian nationality. Known as the ‘Brussels trap’, it could easily apply to the whole country. Expats find themselves ‘trapped’ with an easy commute to work, affordable housing and the possibility of raising a family without breaking the bank.

    (Er, I will leave you to gulp and read the rest.. )

      1. Multiculturalism: While racism and prejudice are certainly an issue, Belgium is wonderfully multicultural. It’s a rare delight to see Italian, Moroccan, Chinese and West African roots mingling among each other in such a small space. Not only does it make the country more interesting, it also makes for some of the best restaurants in the world.

        Do they have a stabby stabby acid throwing culture .. if not why is Britain so different ?

        1. Because we have far more of them. They are not of Moroccan, Chinese or Indian roots. They are “other” African – you know the ones who can’t make a proper country after the Brits moved out, having given them a blueprint for civilised behaviour.

          The ones who come here with begging bowls because once upon a time we lifted them out of savagery into organised society. But it didn’t work because they just can’t do it.

    2. Afternoon TB,
      But the downside could be how capable would these bellgy kids be in future years in a knife fight, or at acid tossing, motor bike mugging etc,etc, just ask yourself that.

    2. Counter claims that it was the aftermath of an unauthorised pro-cannabis event. In either case, it was caused by young people, many of whom probably attended both events.

      1. Sounds like a good reason for not legalizing cannabis, i.e. the people smoking it are to laid-back too give a rat’s about the environment.

  51. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/09/20/mayfair-cleared-homeless-tent-city-amid-fears-crime-wave/

    On the Monopoly board, Mayfair is London’s most expensive property. Its streets are lined with grand townhouses, embassies and ambassadors’ residences standing shoulder-to-shoulder with some of Britain’s fanciest hotels and restaurants.

    But beneath this outward appearance of splendour, a crime wave has taken hold. Violence and anti-social behaviour are causing distress and alarm to wealthier residents. There are daily reports of robberies and muggings, while wilder claims – which have proved to be false – of multiple homicides abound, only heightening the tension.

    Added to the concern is a large, temporary encampment on Park Lane – Mayfair’s Monopoly twin – of Romanians and Bulgarians, who have been able to resist deportation thanks to a favourable High Court ruling.

    Men, women and children sleep rough in tents or on cardboard mattresses, accused of being troublesome beggars and of being behind some petty thefts and pickpocketing.Last week, The Daily Telegraph witnessed police and council officials clearing them from a campsite in an early-morning raid.

    Two or three years ago, they would have been deported, but a High Court ruling in 2017 made a Home Office policy of deporting rough sleepers who are EU citizens unlawful. A judge said the discriminatory measure broke freedom of movement rules.

    Latest figures published by the Metropolitan Police show violent and sexual offences in Mayfair were reported at the rate of more than two a day. In the 12 months to July, 872 crimes of a violent or sexual nature were reported. In the same period, a robbery per day was committed in the area.

    Thefts and petty crimes have spiralled. Thefts – including shoplifting and bicycles – are running at 4,549 reported incidents in a year, the equivalent to more than 80 cases a week.

    (DO try and read the article, not Premium thank goodness)

    1. So we can’t get rid of them,just push them away from the rich and powerful and dump them on some other poor sod without the connections
      Great,just great

      1. Maidenhead is quite reasonable, lots of tree laden streets for camping, And since this change happened under May’s watch, I’m sure she’ll be pleased to see them.

    1. If he was clean-shaven then you have been sucked back in time to 2014. I’ll see your next comment in 5 years. 🙂

  54. New Rules for Climate Change Protesting Children

    1) No travel by car or bus or air

    2) No electronic equipment

    3) Must be Vegans

    4) No clothes that use man made or animal fibres

    5) No Alcohol

    6) No Coffee

  55. I had wondered how many flights were involved. Now we know; story picked up by Fox this a.m. here:

    “Greta Thunberg took an “emissions-free” boat from Europe to the U.S. — but her sea voyage actually spewed more carbon emissions than flying would have. That was first reported by left-leaning German news outlet TAZ, which interviewed a spokesman for the boat operators and found that the boat trip required at least six flights — more than if she had simply flown to the U.S. and back”.

  56. ‘Lammy’ is now a colloquialism:

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    Had a very funny episode at work today.
    I’m working for a client ripping out and replacing a high pressure pneumatic and hydraulic system.
    About two o’clock we decided to shut down and go for a brew. We have a filter coffee machine, fresh milk, bikkies. The whole nine yards. Very civilised. We’re the only dept with such facilities, as we brought everything in ourselves, and the smell of fresh coffee wafting from our workshop brings in various waifs and strays passing by looking to ponce a decent cuppa.
    In walks one of the clients reps, a Scouser. (Our job ticket signatory).
    Scouser: A’right dere lads, any chance of a brew?
    Me: No probs Gary, just about ready.
    Scouser: Sound. Ooh, hob-nobs too.
    Me: Help yourself. How do you take your coffee?
    Scouser: Gimme a Lammy’s head.
    Me: Uh?
    Scouser: A Lammy’s head.
    Me: WTF is that?
    Scouser: Black, fuck all in it.

    Cue me wetting myself. I think Gary is woke.

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    1. The best thing about this Labour party conference will be at the end of the week, to see if they have split into 2 or even 3 different parties. The more that they argue with each other, the better it is for the United Kingdom and our future.

      It will be a real struggle for those people who fake the poll numbers to keep pretending that Labour are still at 25% and have ANY real chance of getting elected. Especially with all of those Northern Leave seats that they are waving goodbye to.

  58. ‘Morning Peeps,

    Passau to Sussex by train(s) in one day, so a little weary from travelling and unlikely to be here for long today. Will leave you for now with a photo taken in St Stephen’s Cathedral, Passau. This is a baroque building that made us gasp:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/02f9f684fe06aaf733b4368ff1621e589249ca078126d105dafeaa2c40c792a5.jpg

    Edit: I should add that, with nearly 18,000 pipes, the organ is the largest church/cathedral organ in the world. Unfortunately we were elsewhere on Thursday so missed the lunchtime recital. We shall return!

      1. ‘Morning, Bill. Each to his own, of course. I just marvel at the skill and workmanship of a building like this erected in 1682.

        1. It’s the “fondant icing” effect that I dislike. Overdone; too much of everything. Though, some woodwork is attractive.

  61. William Shawcross spent most of his summers as a boy in St Mawes on his family’s boats. His wife now owns Hotel Tresanton where, my friends tell me, William does a passable impersonation of Basil Fawlty.

    His views on the EU are well worth reading.

    From Today’s DT

    The Remainer elite is laughing in the face of our history
    WILLIAM SHAWCROSS

    Controllers in Brussels have almost unchecked power CREDIT: VIRGINIA MAYO/AP
    Trying to beat the Brexit blues, I travelled north to Bishop Auckland, County Durham, to see Kynren. This spectacular open-air pageant, celebrating 2,000 years of history, has castles and ships arising magically from a lake, dozens of horses, flocks of sheep, innumerable geese and a cast of 1,400 local volunteer actors, including scores of children. And audiences of up to 8,000 a night.

    Kynren (an Anglo-Saxon word for kinship) is a loving musical celebration of “this blessed plot” (especially its north-east), its Christian heritage and its throne of kings. I have never seen anything like it.

    It starts with Joseph of Arimathea, takes in the Romans, the Vikings, William the Conqueror, Shakespeare and Queen Bess, the Civil War, the coming of the steam engine (a large train puffs along the huge grass stage) and Queen Victoria. German and British soldiers play football in No Man’s Land at Christmas 1914 – to applause from the audience. Churchill exhorts us on to victory in 1940 and the pageant finally praises the arrival of the Windrush generation.

    Produced by a dedicated and talented Frenchwoman, Anne Isabelle Daulon, Kynren is the gift of Jonathan Ruffer, financial genius and Christian philanthropist. He has given millions of pounds to bring life back to this derelict former mining town. Kynren has restored their history to local people and renewed their sense of community and confidence. “We are all Labour here,” said one man in the audience. “But it’s Ruffer who has saved us.”

    Back in London, I wondered how a future Kynren would deal with our sinister, pantomime crisis today.

    There were very good reasons why 48 per cent of voters wanted to stay in the EU. What I find astonishing is the destructive and indecent lengths to which elite Remainers have since gone to overturn the vote to leave.

    If it were brought up to date, a future Kynren might have to express a sort of Animal Farm satire, dealing with the corrosive power that the new imperial class in Brussels wields over Britain and other colonies. Think Napoleon, Snowball and Squealer ordering national flags to be symbolically cut to pieces to the strains of Ode to Joy. Poor Beethoven.

    The Lib Dem conference exulted with the Brussels mandarin, Guy Verhofstadt, when he called for “a European Union empire”. What? Progressive liberals applauding imperialism? To please the EU imperialists, the Lib Dems then voted to scrap Brexit, without even a nod to the 17.4 million who backed Leave in a referendum that Lib Dem leaders had long demanded.

    As power and loyalty have fled to Brussels, so national governments and institutions have lost strength. Brussels chooses our new rulers with little reference to the “member states” who have replaced nations. Thus the new European Commission president, Ursula von der Leyen, and her eight vice presidents were recently selected behind closed EU doors, in today’s equivalent of “smoke-filled rooms”.

    Our unknown new rulers rejoice in Animal Farm‑ish titles: “Commissioner for a Stronger Europe in the World”, “Commissioner for an Economy that Works for People” and “Commissioner for Protecting Our European Way of Life”. (The EU’s way of life does not recognise our Christian heritage, which was specifically banned from the European constitution, despite the pleas of Pope John Paul II.)

    These new imperial controllers have almost unchecked power and are now launched on an accelerated path towards Ever-Closer Union. How on earth do Lib Dems, let alone Tory “rebels”, think that that will be good for Britain, let alone the rest of Europe?

    Just look at Italy. Since the euro was imposed, it has lost 15 per cent of its manufacturing base and youth unemployment has risen to 30 per cent. As the author Tim Parks wrote in a recent essay, Italians realise that their leaders are powerless and unending control from Brussels “amounts to the infantilisation of national politics”. True throughout much of the EU.

    Conte near some flags
    Italian politics has been infantilised by the EU CREDIT: SIMONA GRANATI/CORBIS NEWS
    Since the referendum there has only been one real choice – respect the people’s vote or try to subvert it. That is what elite Remainers, conspiring openly with Brussels, cheered on by the liberal media, are doing.

    The Remainers call Boris Johnson a liar – they even did so in the Supreme Court this week, without a word of reproach from the Justices. The reason they hate him is that he knows that if Britain’s constitutional settlement is to survive, Leave really must mean Leave.

    Why don’t Remainers understand that their total loyalty to the soulless, undemocratic, economically decaying EU is destroying their own parties – and perhaps this great country?

    It is the ultimate madness that senior Conservative politicians, assisted by a conniving Speaker, sided with Jeremy Corbyn to paralyse Parliament and thus hobble and destroy Johnson’s essential attempt to implement the referendum. The distinguished philosopher John Gray (no Tory) argues that Corbyn’s “useful idiots” pose the greatest threat to Britain today. The disruption of a no‑deal Brexit would pass. But the damage from a Corbyn government “would be permanent and irreversible”.

    Given its joyful celebration of Christianity, monarchy and north‑eastern human kindness, Kynren might not survive a soulless, semi-Stalinist Corbyn regime. But if it did continue, its next acts might have to portray one of the grimmest periods in all the 2,000 years of our history.

    William Shawcross is chairman of Unherd Insight

    2. A mate of mine has been to Kynren at least a couple of times. He says it’s very good.

      Not my cup of tea though.

  62. With John Humphrys gone, who at the BBC will take the side of the listeners?

    CHARLES MOORE

    Like other mainstream media, it has become a cartel

    John Humphrys retired from the Today programme on Thursday after a 32-year reign which stretches back to the Thatcher years. On his last day, he was feted by colleagues and celebrities from Tony Blair to Dame Edna Everage. The praise was justified, but most of it picked the wrong point.

    Humphrys was lauded for his fearless grilling of the powerful. He is undoubtedly very good at this, but so are a great many others. Surely what makes him so unusual in the BBC is on whose behalf he seeks to act.

    The late Kingsley Amis used to say that the besetting sin of journalists, broadcasters and even creative writers was to shape and rate their own work by “how it went down at the club”. He meant that they cherished the esteem of their fellows more than the needs and views of the public.

    Humphrys seems to me almost the only important public-affairs broadcaster not to suffer from this sin. His motive in asking questions is uniquely simple: he wants to help the listeners. He wants to get behind the jargon and evasions of public figures to make them say clearly what they mean, and explain how it might affect you and me. Despite his abrasiveness, this makes him quite humble: he claims no superior virtue or expertise and promotes no agenda.

    Most of the others have different motives. They wish to show how “woke” they are on issues such as feminism, LGBT rights and climate change, and “call out” those (roughly 90 per cent of the population) who fail to pass these tests. And/or they wish to be seen as priest-like experts above the common crowd. Someone like Nick Robinson, for example – another of the Today presenters – is just as good as Humphrys in the role of crazed dentist looking for holes in a politician’s teeth, but one feels that his motive is different. The essential Robinson message is “I know more about politics than you, so let me handle this”.

    In the 1980s, when the “mainstream media” held unchallenged sway, I became a “lobby” journalist. This system, which survives in modified form, controlled who could pick up political news in Parliament and the usually anonymous terms (“sources close to the Prime Minister” etc) on which it could be reported.

    As a new boy, I watched with some puzzlement how, at the end of lobby briefings, the most senior correspondents would huddle together in the room and decide among themselves what the story was. Despite working for rival channels and newspapers, they would settle the news line together.

    This made life easy for us hacks, but exactly exemplified Adam Smith’s famous dictum that “People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public.” We could be quite brave in our challenging questions to ministers, preening ourselves with that cant phrase about “speaking truth to power”; but what we passed on to readers/listeners/viewers was more for our convenience than for theirs. We were a sort of cartel.

    Such practices help explain why the mainstream media (nowadays referred to, mainly by its opponents, as the MSM) have been having such a hard time in the online era.

    When people began to acquire other means of discovering information, they liked them. They found that the service given them by the MSM was often lazy, wrong, inadequate, or biased without saying so. They were at last free to choose other sources. So a great many of them did, and do.

    No group has found this harder to deal with than the BBC, though of course it uses its privilege of income guaranteed by the compulsory licence fee to kill internet rivals who have to compete in an open market. Technology is making the corporation’s revenue stream insecure. Plurality has exposed its traditional authority as a form of fake news.

    The BBC’s strange reaction to these changes has been to become not less tendentious, but more. On the subject of climate change, for example, its “environment analyst”, Roger Harrabin, is a committed preacher of climate doom, rather than a detached reporter of fact. He might as well appear on screen with a sandwich board proclaiming “The End of The World Is Nigh”.

    What felt like half of yesterday’s Today programme, the first since 1989 without Humphrys on the payroll, was almost completely unqualified propaganda for the “climate strike” in which, the newsreader excitedly told us, “millions” would take part. Mishal Husain presided unquestioningly over a comically soft interview with Lord Stern and a spokeswoman for Extinction Rebellion. She put in no word for anyone opposing the politicisation of schoolchildren and never probed the wildness of the claims that the planet is about to be destroyed unless (unattainable) “zero carbon” targets are hit.

    Yesterday’s climate strike started in Australia. It would have been helpful background if the BBC had reminded us that the Liberal Party unexpectedly won the May general election there, chiefly because voters rebelled against energy prices which had been forced up by green rejection of the country’s vast fossil-fuel resources. It is part of the BBC mindset that “protest”, especially when made by the young, has a special moral virtue. The same mindset has no such belief in the virtue of majority votes in a democracy: look at how it covers Brexit.

    As Humphrys went out in a blaze of deserved glory on Thursday, I found myself disagreeing with only one line of argument he made. In the course of an interview with Tony Blair he reproached other leaders – naming Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn – for not having appeared on the programme to face a longish interview with him or his colleagues.

    Obviously Humphrys is right that politicians need to justify their actions, views and policies to the public. He is wrong to assume, however, that this must mean they owe a special duty to the BBC or, indeed, to any particular outlet. What earthly point is there in submitting to 10 minutes of grilling if you know in advance that the object of the exercise is to catch you out and then use your words as the basis for a series of hostile follow-up stories?

    In the case of Mr Johnson, something has happened which I never remember before. Large sections of the MSM, led by the BBC, decided from his very first day that it would destroy him as Prime Minister.

    He was given no honeymoon, no benefit of the doubt. Every story is concerted to match the hostile narrative (this week, a Labour activist was found to abuse him in a hospital about the NHS). Interviews, if agreed to, would be fuel for the same thing. So it would be worse than useless for Boris to give one. It is part of Donald Trump’s shocking brilliance that he understands such things and tweets, without mediation, instead.

    Obviously the alternative to the MSM is not automatically good. Because it reflects all human life, the net mixes truth and lies almost indiscriminately. It cannot guarantee good journalism. But the traditional media urgently need to recognise that they have lost their moral and commercial monopoly of the business of news. They assert that politicians need them. When that fails, they tell them they have a duty to appear, as if on trial, before them. Not so: they have a duty to voters, which is not the same thing.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/09/20/john-humphrys-gone-bbc-will-take-side-listeners/

    1. Never noticed Humphreys “taking the side of the listeners”.

      Just seemed to me to be a far-left, self-obsessed fanatic.

  63. ‘Morning All

    Extract from The Daily Brexit Betrayal

    And lo and behold – EU officials leaked papers ….! In a fulminant editorial, the DT writes:

    “Is the EU serious

    about finding a solution to the Northern Ireland backstop problem or

    not? They keep saying that they are open to new ideas but every time

    Britain offers some, they are thrown back in our face.”(paywalled link)

    Yes, well – glad you noticed that! We’ve noticed that some time ago. It’s the EU way of stopping Brexit. They couldn’t have been clear about it. More:

    “In Brussels, the

    backstop is obviously seen as the wheel upon which to break Brexit. The

    EU’s demands are thus as unreasonable as possible, and its behaviour as

    impolitic as it can be, precisely so that Britain will surrender to the

    logic that this just can’t be done. The EU bangs on about its commitment

    to the integrity of the single market: Britain is right to hammer away

    at its commitment to the integrity of the United Kingdom. We are not the

    ones who want to create problems, and the EU’s bureaucratic fanaticism

    is a reminder of why we voted to leave.” (paywalled link)

    Good to know that some in our Remain MSM swamp finally acknowledge what the EU ‘negotiations’ were all about. We have known this at least since Chequers.

    And lo and behold – EU officials leaked papers ….! In a fulminant editorial, the DT writes:

    “Is the EU serious

    about finding a solution to the Northern Ireland backstop problem or

    not? They keep saying that they are open to new ideas but every time

    Britain offers some, they are thrown back in our face.”(paywalled link)

    Yes, well – glad you noticed that! We’ve noticed that some time ago. It’s the EU way of stopping Brexit. They couldn’t have been clear about it. More:

    “In Brussels, the

    backstop is obviously seen as the wheel upon which to break Brexit. The

    EU’s demands are thus as unreasonable as possible, and its behaviour as

    impolitic as it can be, precisely so that Britain will surrender to the

    logic that this just can’t be done. The EU bangs on about its commitment

    to the integrity of the single market: Britain is right to hammer away

    at its commitment to the integrity of the United Kingdom. We are not the

    ones who want to create problems, and the EU’s bureaucratic fanaticism

    is a reminder of why we voted to leave.” (paywalled link)

    Good to know that some in our Remain MSM swamp finally acknowledge what the EU ‘negotiations’ were all about. We have known this at least since Chequers.

    And lo and behold – EU officials leaked papers ….! In a fulminant editorial, the DT writes:

    “Is the EU serious
    about finding a solution to the Northern Ireland backstop problem or
    not? They keep saying that they are open to new ideas but every time
    Britain offers some, they are thrown back in our face.”(paywalled link)

    Yes, well – glad you noticed that! We’ve noticed that some time ago. It’s the EU way of stopping Brexit. They couldn’t have been clear about it. More:

    “In Brussels, the
    backstop is obviously seen as the wheel upon which to break Brexit. The
    EU’s demands are thus as unreasonable as possible, and its behaviour as
    impolitic as it can be, precisely so that Britain will surrender to the
    logic that this just can’t be done. The EU bangs on about its commitment
    to the integrity of the single market: Britain is right to hammer away
    at its commitment to the integrity of the United Kingdom. We are not the
    ones who want to create problems, and the EU’s bureaucratic fanaticism
    is a reminder of why we voted to leave.” (paywalled link)

    Good to know that some in our Remain MSM swamp finally acknowledge what the EU ‘negotiations’ were all about. We have known this at least since Chequers.
    https://independencedaily.co.uk/your-daily-brexit-betrayal-saturday-21st-september-2019/

    1. That is Peckham Rye Station above the platform concourse. I read that it is being restored and re-opened to the public.

      The original booking hall to Euston was finer but that as you will know was demolished in the sixties along with the Propylaeum or Euston Arch.

      1. Peckham Rye had a wonderful market in the late 50’s early sixties, which I used to walk to with my grandmother.
        Is it still functioning or has it been gentrified, or worse recultured?

    2. The Port of Dover is 100 per cent ready. Ferry operators: 100 per cent ready. Calais, Dunkirk: 100 per cent ready,” said Mr Bannister in comments reported by Bloomberg — sinking a key narrative of anti-Brexit agitators who have been promoting the discredited “Yellowhammer” papers speculating on a worst-case trade scenario after a no-deal Brexit.

      “Once the rules of the game are known business will adapt, and they will adapt very, very swiftly,” he added, indicating that yet another delay to Brexit would have the undesirable effect of “prolonging the period of uncertainty” by leaving businesses in “limbo”.

      Bannister added that, while he did expect there might be “some incremental friction in the trade”, this was nothing new.
      “One thing I do know is for our operations here in the Port of Dover, we deal with uncertainty every day,” he explained in comments to the Press Association.

      “We can have disruption occur at any point in time and the teams of people we have here are really well versed in handling disrupted traffic flows and getting the business and indeed the traffic all up and running as quickly as possible,” he added.
      Indeed, trade between Calais and Dover has experienced a number of prolonged periods of disruption in recent years which European Union membership did nothing to prevent, due in large part to France’s volatile industrial relations.

      These periods of disruption were not accompanied by the sort of mass casualties due to shortages of essential food and medicine that the REmainers are claiming will happen

    1. “Our police”?

      They haven’t been “our” police since the late 1970s. They are the government’s police.

      2. To right with Gypsy the first thing they do is send around a Gypsy liaison officer to see what they can do to help them (This is not a joke neither)

      3. I had luncheon with a serving Policeman while on holiday. Very nice chap. Half Greek. He is as dismayed by what is happening as the rest of us.

    2. The police have a legal duty to remove obstructions to the byway and infrastructure.

      If they don’t, they are not doing their jobs.

      Frankly, tie a rope to their necks and drag them off the road.

      1. It might have been a little more effective than rope had the car drivers put their feet down hard on the accelerator and shouted “Roads are for cars, you should be on the pavements!”

  68. Funny old world
    Attendance and speaking at the Labour Conference requires ID
    Perhaps they think that’s a good idea………………………..

    1. Strange they were dead against EU national having to make a simple registration in order to remain in the UK

    3. And another novelty – when they have a vote on something or other, the minority is declared the winner….

  70. For those of you who listen to Radio 3 – and who don’t read The Spectator. This extract from Charles Moore’s “Notes” caught my eye (from the 7 Sept magazine):

    Another thought was prompted by listening to Radio 3 for several hours as I drove. Long-standing readers may remember this column’s complaint about those presenters who treat classical music not as an educated pleasure, but as a form of therapy. In my long drive, I heard two full, consecutive programmes. The first illustrated the problem. In This Classical Life, two amiable, inarticulate people, Jess Gillam and Callum Smart, talked about how such-and-such piece of music was ‘really great’ and how much they ‘really liked it’. Both laughed all the time, but neither was funny. Like disc jockeys on Radio 1, they interrupted the chosen passages (12 in the 29 minutes) to insert their own comments, which meant the music lost all shape. The Siegfried Idyll was subjected to this treatment. ‘That’s quite a long piece,’ said Jess apologetically, so they jumped to the end. Their rigid doctrine was that the great thing about music is that ‘you can take what you want to take away from it’; so no train of thought was pursued. Although I am a musical ignoramus, I learnt nothing.

    This was immediately followed by Inside Music, presented by the countertenor Iestyn Davies, beautifully done and beautifully spoken. The autobiographical elements, rather than wandering off into tedious subjectivity, were all pressed into the service of the music which Davies came to understand so well as a choral scholar at St John’s, Cambridge (he is now 40). Almost everything he said was interesting — about the difference between being a singer and a musician, for example, or approaching Beethoven from what came before him (‘at the bottom of this great hill’) rather than looking back at him as a great Romantic. Instead of learning nothing, I learnt almost too much to take in, so I am listening again. Davies was completely serious and therefore deeply entertaining.

    Couldn’t agree more; and I expect Our Susan will give it an uptick, too..

    1. Yes I heard both of those and those comments are spot on. Another good programme on R3 IMO is composer of the week (even when I don’t particularly like the composer I’ll listen and find something of interest).

      1. Dear old Donald Macleod. He was a client 40 years ago! Last year, he was in a restaurant
        about 10 miles from our place in Laure!

        1. “Dear old Donald Macleod. He was a client 40 years ago!”

          You’ve just breached client confidentiality.

          1. Just like Boris Johnson, Grizzly. David Cameron got into trouble the other day because he repeated a private conversation with the Queen, but I distinctly remember Boris announcing “I met Her Majesty earlier today and she asked me to be her Prime Minister and form a government”.

    2. I saw Iestyn Davies at the Wigmore last Monday. His 40th birthday concert. He was presented with the Wigmore Medal. An occasional award to artists of distinction.

  72. The housemartins are still here, they were having long conversations with each other high in the sky today. I expect they’re wondering how they’ll get back to the Atlas mountains if Thomas Cook goes bust.

  73. I have spent this very wet Saturday re-reading “The History Man” by Malcolm Bradbury – must be 30 years since I last read it.

    Set in the late 1960s – it refers to student riots; banning “fascist” speakers; doing away with personal pronouns; students choosing the syllabus; political correctness; breakdown in rational behaviour.

    Talk about feeling as though I was reading today’s newspaper….!

        2. That’s what I used to call it, Bill. But then I was told that “settee” is common and that it should be called a “sofa” – which I used to think were the 5th and 4th notes in a musical scale. Now I know better: a sofa is something that a mixed race couple sit on in a DFS store.

          :-))

    2. The only book of his that I’ve read is Rates of Exchange. I recall there is a character in it called Princip and the connection with that also being the name of the man who shot Archduke Ferdinand was not unintentional. Beyond that, I’ve forgotten what it was about. Perhaps it would bear revisiting.

      2. Malcolm Bradbury was professor of creative writing at UEA in his last years. I have the BBC serialisation of The History Man, starring a very young Antony Sher and Isla Blair, on DVD.

    4. When I studied at the Bartlett School
      of Architecture in the seventies we were moved from the beautiful Wilkins building to a new modern block named Wates House. This monstrosity had been designed by otherwise sound architects but with a contingent of bolshy students seeking to exert their agendas and influence the designs (for what practical purpose God only knows).

      As you might imagine, the building was a mess and so soul destroying an environment for creativity that I spent much of my time elsewhere including mixing with the Slade students who had retained their wing in the Wilkins building.

      The notion that immature students, subject to silly socialist ‘ideals’ and with no practical experience should influence anything is absurd. The notion that some pre-pubescent Cabbage Patch Doll with mental issues and a mass of idiotic skiving school children, tutored and excused their misbehaviour by lefty teachers and other fools is even more absurd.

      1. I think you’ve missed the point.

        The issue is not ‘climate’.

        ‘Climate’ is a means to an end.

          2. Not really, Jill, she is convinced that every single thing that happens in the world is engineered by one George Soros.

          4. The ‘climate emergency’ is not about climate.

            It’s purpose is to undermine and weaken Western nations and, along with other subversive initiatives, lead ultimately to control via supra national organizations.

            Who has huge influence over the EU and UN, and who is spending big money to stop Brexit, and why ?

  74. After seeing all of these deluded people marching for the manufactured issue of man-made climate change, this young 14 year-old girl speaks about the real issues of the effects of migration on her life in Germany. It was first put up here by Rik last night, but is worth seeing if you missed it then. This one girl says more in 3 minutes than the media has said in the past year.

    You could almost imagine that all of this “urgent climate change” hysteria was created to distract people from the real problems that threaten our future lives.

    https://youtu.be/A06XM4JTw80?t=13

    (Edit: I have just realised that yellow text might not be the easiest to read for many eyes, so here is what she says:)

    “Hello. I am Marla, and I am almost 15 years old.

    I visit a private school in Cottbus. Today I stand here voluntarily, and I want to express my opinions openly today.

    Friends of mine are afraid of going to the city, because of the so-called “isolated incidents”.
    We don’t feel safe anymore in the city, neither at the mall, nor even in school.

    There are more police walking around in the city, which would be totally unnecessary if there weren’t these constant incidents in the city.

    Girls are very careful about not dressing too provocatively,and about not being noticed, talked to, or worse.

    Regardless of what we deserve, we have not been able to live carefree and light-hearted anymore in our own country for the longest time. I find it awful that girls and women are sexually harassed by so-called “shelter seekers”, and nothing is being done to combat it.

    I myself have experienced this. I hate the argument by others who say ‘but Germans might do that too,’or, ‘we aren’t any better.’

    This is not about who could do this, but who IS doing it, and the statistics are unambiguous when it concerns refugee delinquency.

    Many adults say we young people should be able to form our own opinions, but then when we do have an opinion, hardly anyone listens to us if it isn’t the right opinion. If our opinions don’t comply with the views of the Left, and if they aren’t ‘Fridays-for-future’-compliant.

    I want more young people to finally stand up and commit themselves to the well-being of their home country.

    One doesn’t have to hate the foreign, just because they defend what’s theirs.

    I love my country, and I want to live in it safely.

    Thank you very much.”

  76. Oh good……

    Owen Smith @OwenSmith_MP

    “Good to see that the sectarian, undemocratic and vindictive attempt to abolish our own elected Dep Leader @tom_watson has been defeated – but the attempt is the perfect illustration that the fifth columnists who have infiltrated Labour won’t stop until they have destroyed us.”

  77. That’s me for today. Rain tomorrow – will finish “The History Man”.

    Have a smashing evening preparing to watch England play Tonga (in Japan for some bizarre reason….{:¬)) I see yer Franch (sic) nearly lost…

    A demain.

    1. Two men that I would buy a drink for in a heartbeat. That would be a good night on the tiles.

        1. They should just lock Boris in the broom cupboard, announce that he is ill, and get on with Brexit together.

          Boris might be okay – probably not. But at least we know that we would be out of the EU next month with these two in charge.

      2. Both of whom have excellent conversational skills and would be very entertaining. Provided no one mentions Politics.

    4. Nigel – What are you in for Jacob?
      Jacob – Oh just a check up, scale & polish,
      Jacob – What are you in for Nigel?
      Nigel – Just a filling.
      Jacob – We’ve been waiting hours, what is taking so long?
      Nigel – Oh Boris went in ages ago, he’s having a new bridge

  79. Last post – quote from The History Man (set in 1968 – written in 1974)

    “Democratic justice is clear injustice”

    I rest my case. TTFN

  80. The unprecedented intimidation tactics of the ultra-Remainers are damaging our democracy. JANET DALEY. 21 SEPTEMBER 2019.

    The prime minister is addressing the country from a podium outside his official residence. Around 30 yards away, a few dozen people scream and bellow continuously in order to drown out his words. The citizenry watching on television at home is scarcely able to hear what he is saying. They are intended to believe, from the level of noise, that the crowd outside the gates at Downing Street somehow represents the overwhelming judgment of the populace. (Television camera shots relayed later make it clear how small the noisy demonstration actually was.)

    Janet’s discovered the duplicity of the MSM. Whoopee! You could have read about this technique on Nottl anytime in the last three years though they are not damaging democracy in the UK because it’s already dead and buried! What we are waiting to discover is the nature of the tyranny that is going to take its place. The EU or a home grown variety.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/21/unprecedented-intimidation-tactics-ultra-remainers-damaging/

  81. The full text of the Janey Daley article referred to elsewhere

    The unprecedented intimidation tactics of the ultra-Remainers are damaging our democracy

    JANET DALEY

    The prime minister is addressing the country from a podium outside his official residence. Around 30 yards away, a few dozen people scream and bellow continuously in order to drown out his words. The citizenry watching on television at home is scarcely able to hear what he is saying. They are intended to believe, from the level of noise, that the crowd outside the gates at Downing Street somehow represents the overwhelming judgment of the populace. (Television camera shots relayed later make it clear how small the noisy demonstration actually was.)

    Visiting an EU capital, the British prime minister cancels a planned outdoor press conference which has been made farcically impossible by around 70 people who scream, bellow, blow whistles and sing to drown out any words he may have chosen to speak.

    At Conservative Party conferences, small mobs of “protesters” gather to shout and spit at anyone entering the conference hall (with no allowances made for the fact they might be hired technicians, unaffiliated lobbyists or journalists). Stationing themselves permanently at the barrier to the conference entrance, they scream obscenities, bang drums and blow ear-splitting whistles in order to sabotage whatever gatherings or broadcast interviews may be taking place around the hall.

    What is going on here? In all the years in which I have been involved in British politics – some of the earlier ones spent as a Left-wing activist – I have never seen anything like this. During the 1980s when a Conservative government took on the trade unions in a titanic struggle which had profound material implications for the livelihoods of whole communities, there were violent police clashes with miners (the most notorious being the Battle of Orgreave) and regular confrontations with flying pickets.

    But as deeply contentious as all this was, and much as the nation was riven by passionate discord, the prime minister of the day was not prevented from addressing the public, nor were attendees at party conferences personally threatened and abused. Or at least – and this may be a significant point – they were sufficiently protected by security measures to make such things impossible.

    The fact of the IRA bombing of the Tory conference hotel in Brighton in 1984 (the same year as the Battle of Orgreave, as it happens) may, of course, have made such security operations imperative but somehow I cannot believe that the kind of mob thuggery which today pursues every Tory gathering would have occurred even in the absence of military level security. This sort of behaviour, which has now become the everyday norm, was simply not within the realm of consideration.

    Even more oddly perhaps, it was not a feature of the serious massed protests against the Iraq invasion when the matter at hand was not our possible departure from a trade bloc but the allegation that the government had taken the country into an illegitimate war on a false premise. (Remember “Blair lied. People died.”?)

    Even though the Stop the War Coalition was coordinated by self-identified Trotskyists whose political orientation was pretty much as extreme as it got, there were not organised attempts to prevent the governing party from speaking, or to physically prevent them conducting orderly meetings.

    So what are we to make of this? That the Remain protest movement regards Brexit as a greater moral outrage than what the anti-war brigade believed was mass murder based on a deliberate untruth? Even if you are opposed to Brexit, this must, surely, strike you as a historical anomaly.

    There are a few urgent questions to be asked about this peculiar phenomenon. First, is it actually about the issue of Brexit, or is Brexit just a pretext for a form of anarchic, disruptive behaviour that has become inexplicably fashionable? If it really is about Brexit – that is, simply a reflection of the passionate desire of a section of the population to remain within the EU – then it seems politically perverse. Generally, this kind of extreme protest action is provoked by the belief that one’s view is not receiving due recognition within established political circles (i.e. on the Iraq war).

    But that is hardly the case here: the Remain cause is massively well-represented in Parliament (including by the Speaker), the broadcast media, corporate business, the Bank of England, etc, etc. Nobody could claim that the Remain interest lacks respectable outlets. In fact, the voice which this small but hyper-active mob is determined to silence has fewer defenders in powerful positions on its side than they do on theirs. This must be the first instance in history when street protesters demonstrated on behalf of the privileged establishment rather than against it.

    Second question: why is there so little effective containment of what is often nothing more than anti-social, anti-democratic intimidation? Free speech does not give people the right to shout down a national leader so that he cannot be heard by his own electorate or a visiting head of government so that he is unable to reply to legitimate press queries.

    Are there no security implications here? What if someone in that baying Luxembourg crowd, which was allowed so close to Boris Johnson, had been armed? And why could those protesters (one of whom might have been armed), who were clinging to the Downing Street gates as he spoke, not have been kept a safe distance away – on the opposite side of Whitehall, say – where they might have made their vocal complaints without undermining the proper functions of governmental life?

    Of course, this is precisely the kind of pack intimidation and bullying that would once have been labelled “fascist” – probably by the very people who are now engaging in it. Whatever has produced it, this behaviour is noxious and may soon become dangerous. Might there come a moment when the respectable Remain voices, who have such a multiplicity of outlets for their views, will recall what those anti- Iraq war posters used to say and declare, “Not in my name”.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/21/unprecedented-intimidation-tactics-ultra-remainers-damaging/

    1. “Of course, this is precisely the kind of pack intimidation and bullying
      that would once have been labelled “fascist” – probably by the very
      people who are now engaging in it.      ” How true, and they can’t see the awful irony.

      1. Irony, as opposed to direct sarcasm, takes a certain amount of intelligence and imagination to perceive.

    2. I see it as an extension of the general breakdown in civility, law, order and democracy in the UK.

      Criminal gangs and so called gypsies acting with impunity, politicians ignoring the electorate, corruption and extraordinary greed everywhere.
      The country has ghettoes springing up in every city and now the towns and villages are starting to see them too with estates of feral families who make their neighbours’ lives a misery and town centres threatening, if not actually unsafe.

      The law abiding citizen is virtually unprotected and the police are chasing shadows, if they are chasing anything at all.

      1. The law exist to deal with the the politicians and police though will not act

        The simple fact are that trespass in itself is indeed a civil offence but forcing an entry or stealing water or electricity etc makes it a criminal offence as does refusing to leave within a reasonable time when asked to do so by the land owner or their agents,.Reasonable time being defined as the amount of time need to pack up and go. With Gypsies that would normally be a few hours so allowing 24 hours is more than reasonable

        2. In general, it seems the British police forces don’t act to deal with crimes caused by “minorities” unless they are forced to. All this tripe about cultural differences comes up as an excuse for inaction. And even when someone is prosecuted, they are given light sentences.

        1. It’s a great pity that the parrot who has left us wasn’t you. Haven’t you got a hole to go to?

          1. Oh dear…

            Looks like there’s a “breakdown of civility in a ghetto”.

            Prob due to cheap claret..

      4. I think what you may find is that “the family” is terminally broken in some of these communities communities. “Fathers” impregnate women and leave them to it; the resulting mothers do drugs and their offspring grow up without any kind of moral compass – and they probably became addicted while in the womb. Here. their role models are what they see in the streets – dealers, gangs and the most minor dispute settled with gunfire. At least in Britain it’s knives, which have a much lower risk to passers by than some yahoo letting fly with a Mac-10.

        I suspect the prime difference here is that it is mostly contained to certain city areas, and as long as they are killing each other, nobody cares that much. Sad, but true. It’s been going on so long that people are just inured to ghetto violence.

        1. I was very upset that a good friend was beaten to a pulp by a feral family, just for telling the “chidren” not to damage his van and business equipment at about 3 am.

          This was in an area where you would describe the general population as staunchly hard-working professional and self employed individuals.
          It is at moments ike that that I start to think the answer is vigilante justice.

          1. We have a complete lack of law and order in the country. Justice does not exist.

            Why is a career criminal with fourteen, fifteen convictions roaming the streets, only getting a sentence on his latest crime? Why are thugs allowed to behave as they want to with impunity?

            There’s litter everywhere because the state wants it that way. far easier to just let chavs behave as they want than to do something about them.

            Government has spent decades trying to destroy the family. It’s endless promotion and excess of welfare has created that situation. The state wants this so it can grow ever bigger and control people.

          2. I think the Americans had the right idea, three strikes and you’re out.

            If a few of these bástards discovered that they would never be released I am sure the crime rate would drop.
            Particularly if the police took the Bratton broken windows approach to petty crime.

      1. OK so he is the root of so much trouble. But what do we do about it? You never give an answer, only a question.

        So we know. What now?

    5. I would suggest that yer Tories form a crowd and shout down Corbyn every time he speaks, but yer right wing are just too well behaved.

  82. Forgot to mention earlier (it comes with advancing years – forgetfulness, that is) that we watched the ISS go over our heads last night. It was a pleasant evening – warm with clear skies and it showed up as a fast moving, very bright light. We had seen it go over before, some years back, when a shuttle mission was about to deliver supplies. On that occasion what we saw was two bright lights as the shuttle was catching up with the ISS.

        1. And many years back, we were in Florida with the then young ‘uns and discovered a shuttle launch was going to take place the next day, so we drove over to the Cape to watch it go. First flight of the Discovery.

          1. Yes, 2 sleepy young ‘uns, moaning about getting up so early, but gave them memories to last a lifetime!

    2. 40 years from now, when the holy war for survival is over, there will be parades as our victorious soldiers, sailors and air force personnel are welcomed back by a grateful nation. The globalists will be rotting in cells, or swinging in the breeze. Our people will take a weekend off before rolling up their sleeves and continuing with the great rebuilding of our nation. We will make it right this time.

      And islam? Those who survive the stupidity of attacking a very angry Western world who held out the hand of friendship, those survivors will never be allowed to leave that patch of desert that we let them run away to.

      Real peace reigns, harps play, beer is consumed. It is there for the taking.

      1. When they have 30-40 grandchildren and so many of us have 0-8 ? Mate, we haven’t got 40 years …. 40 years was too long for Lebanon; it was lost in a quicker time than that …

        1. Lewis – I became aware of the numbers and problem some years ago. We have been through the scenarios of what can be done and there is only one course of action that can be applied that will work. You can see some other countries in the world are arriving at the same conclusion. It is the only answer. Islam, the cult itself, becomes an illegal banned organisation followed by deportation of all who wish to follow it.

          Obviously we are not monsters, so anyone who has been trapped in that cult by accident of birth and who wants nothing to do with it will need to be processed for a while to make sure that they are not faking it. They can stay after doing certain things that will prove that they do not care a fig for the cult. Every single other one will need to be removed for the survival of the country. Whether the target islamic country wants them back is not relevant, they are going. There is no other option.

          Our 1 female families would need to produce 12 children each, between the ages of 18 and 30, one a year, just to keep pace with islam. That is no life for a woman and turns them into baby machines, nothing more. Just like those who want to replace us.

          The 40 year time span is 10 years for people to realise the threat and stop new members arriving. Then those violent ones already here will attack as they will not leave peacefully. This will mean extended civil war, as will be happening across Europe. With our population being disarmed, this will take 5 to 10 years. The remaining 20 years is wrinkling out all of those who lay down their arms and deporting them to an islamic country. Removing 6 million people safely is not going to be done overnight.

          But by 40 years it should be over. A country that has no followers of islam in it at all. Then we will never allow any to return. (Sorry long message. As I said, this has all been thought out in great depth. 🙂

          1. Yikes – without preparation and the background numbers to those conclusions, that can look grim. I am accustomed to speaking with those who already know that those who truly believe in islam focus on the next life, not this one. Their actions here are to get rewards after they die, which is why they do such terrible things down here. They cannot live in peace with any other way of thinking, or even different branches of islam itself. But it does take some research, or having a loved one directly effected, to understand this.

            The short version is – this situation is not something that we wanted but it has been done to us deliberately by those of our leaders who are globalists. They do not like democracy as it stops them doing what they want, and islam will replace democracy in any country where it takes over. We can see them trying to remove democracy in several ways already. It will get bad, but we will win. We will have peace again and can live happily with all of those other creeds and colours that do not want to see us wiped out. 🙂 It will just take time, that is all.

            There are any number of academics speaking at Universities who outline clearly the existential threat that real islam poses to every country. But you will not see those on the BBC or Sky of course. I certainly have hope. 🙂

    3. Different world. My father was in the Royal Engineers, uncles were REME and RAF respectively – the former went into France immediately after D-Day, just 21 at the time, the latter was a bomber pilot. Dad was in a “protected” position, but signed up anyway. Then they came home and got on with their lives.

      That’s what people did in those days.

    4. Probably in some last stand of Freeborn English in the Welsh Marches/Welsh Border against the advancing armed millions of the muslim hordes (after they’ve killed all the snowflakes and their few children).

  85. Evening, all. Norwegian Blue’s depression seems to be catching; I have struggled today and feel as though I’m no longer in charge of my life – it’s running me, rather than the other way round. It’s probably a reaction to the stress of last weekend, having to catch up after having been away and the fact that various pieces of electrical equipment have decided to pack up and have to be replaced. Then, of course, there’s the politics …

    2. Stop still for a while.Look at something beautiful – A tree perhaps. Beautiful now, beautiful in spring and a gem in winter. Constant change, yet quite wonderful.
      Then think of an Apple mac, a Canon camera and an an iPhone and wonder what blithering idiot can make it so difficult to connect the three nasty ;little pieces of technology together to talk to the internet in the middle of nowhere. And you can threaten to hit the bloody lot with the largest stone you can find.

      1. The autumn colours are starting to tinge the leaves now and the nights are noticeably starting to draw in. I don’t dislike winter, but lack of sunshine doesn’t help.

        1. Have you tried a SAD (Seasonally Affective Disorder) lamp, Conners? If you Google it you will find some at very affordable prices. I used to make lists of jobs which needed my attention (I still do) but If I managed them all then I simply “upped the ante” and added even more to the list. On the other hand, if I only finished a few then I started to beat myself up because I had “fallen behind”.

          Whilst it is important to tackle jobs with a deadline (doctor’s appointments, etc.) I now just schedule in an hour daily for each of two or three jobs. I seldom complete them, but I remind myself that it’s Progress not Perfection that counts and that working on a job for an hour a day will eventually get me there. The best way to notice progress is to look at where you are as you start the task and then look at where you are after the hour is up and don’t just move on to the next item on your list; instead pause for a couple of minutes and let the difference you have made sink in. However small it may be, it is still real progress.

          1. I try to limit myself to two engagements a day maximum, preferably one or none (but that is often impossible).

          2. Can you take one day, or just an afternoon, off – time for you to look after you? To walk, nap, watch cricket, just something to hrlp you decouple and recharge? It works for me, has done so ever since I had to complete my Ph.D in two years rather thsn the usual 3 or 4. You need a break, to rest.

          3. I do need a break, I know. I managed one yesterday and tackled the garden 🙂 Next week I have a couple of days so hopefully I’ll be able to chill out then (or at least make a start on the backlog of work ).

    3. Every time you see, read, or hear of something horrid think to yourself:

      “Well, it could have been worse, it might have been me or mine”

      1. I am trying not to see, hear or read of horrid things; I have given up on the Bbc and news generally. I am just prone to stress induced depression and I’ve been very stressed recently, for various reasons. Dog has been ill, MOH has had a fall and needs more attention etc, garden (which should be a stress-buster) is getting away from me and I don’t like that. Lots of little things, but cumulatively they mount up.

        1. As one depressive to another.
          I write a list of everything I need to do in the immediate future, no matter how trivia, and as I complete the tasks I cross them out. Because I include all the easy as well as the harder taks I find I’m quickly climbing the mountain and soon moving down the other side.

          I know it doesn’t work for everyone, but knocking over the skittles makes me feel better.

          1. I do do that – and have done so for years. The trouble is, I am now getting to the stage of having lists of lists and ticking off very few items! I try to prioritise so I don’t get swamped as well. My main problem is having to meet deadlines and sometimes it’s impossible to avoid that (doctor’s appointments, insurance renewals, etc).

        2. I have not watched the BBC News for years now as I don’t like it when people insult my intelligence and lie to my face. I am far more selective now. As for depression, I always found that thinking too much was not the best thing to do. Going out for walks in the clean early morning air, exercise (even Tennis as Plum-Tart suggests although I have not played that since college), and uptempo music can get my mind moving again. Each person is different though.

          Definitely for me though – not thinking too much is a good thing. Not on the same subject going around and around in circles anyway. Talking to others who have active minds can also be very refreshing. 🙂

        3. Know what you mean, Conway. Too much to do, not enough time nor energy… Hope YOH is improving, the dog too.

    4. Yesterday:
      the crazy mallard manages to hatch some more eggs, once again in the upstairs windowbox.
      She then hangs around at ground level, quacking in an attempt to encourage the ducklings to leap. I have to lean out perilously, put the six ducklings into a cardboard box and then catch the mother. We proceed to the pond, and she launches herself on the water; as I release her offspring, they paddle towards her, and then sit proudly on her back as she escapes into the autumn sunshine.

      The moorhens will get every last one.

    1. It’s obvious why the LibDems want the UK to be ruled by foreigners: they couldn’t run a whelk stall on their own, let alone the country.

    2. Despicable cabal of treasonous traitors.
      How have we arrived at this?

      Edit: How for Who (right letters wrong order) 🙂

    3. From the article:

      One of the MEPs who signed the letter, Luisa Porritt, went further, saying that the Commission chief’s persistence in trying to reach a deal with Johnson represented precisely the sort of interference in British domestic politics that Juncker and the other EU27 officials have long said they wanted to avoid.

      Curious! I’m wondering if the fragrant Ms Porritt considers the ranting speech by Guy Verhoftwat, given by invitation at her own Party’s conference, to be an acceptable type of interference by an EU official in British domestic politics.

      The hypocrisy of these Limp-Dumb Remainiacs is beyond parody.

    1. I remember reading ‘A Bridge Too Far’ when the book first came out in the 1970s …. It was enthralling and moving ….

    1. Good night, Rik. Your end of the day posts are good fun and much enjoyed by me. After a long day adding the final gloss coat of brilliant white paint to my new arbour I managed by dusk to almost complete it with just a couple of hours tomorrow morning to finish the job. Ideal, because rain was forecast for 3 pm on Sunday and it is a quick drying gloss. However I have just looked at tomorrow’s forecast and it now promises continuous rain all day from 8 am. I shall have to get up at 7 am and throw a waterproof covering over the entire arbour or else the rain will wash away the undercoat. Grrrr!!!

      PS – If I am to get up at 7 am I must head for bed now, so good night to all on this site.

        1. I have in the past enjoyed very much certain songs by Brassen – indeed, I love some French ‘Cafe Music’ of the 1930s

    1. So if Labour and the LibDems combine forces and the Tories reject TBP’s overtures, the Tories will be in Opposition?

  94. Up early and about to go back to bed again.
    There is a band of heavy rain sweeping up the country that has now reached Birmingham and will probably reach here in a couple of hours.

    1. Been up all night 🙁 About to finish shift in about 45min. I’ll be straight to my bed so won’t see much of the morning but I’d like to go for a walk this afternoon so hope the weather’s OK later.

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