Monday 12 April: The Duke used his role for pioneering engagement with faith groups

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580 thoughts on “Monday 12 April: The Duke used his role for pioneering engagement with faith groups”

    1. 331428+ up ticks,
      Morning AS,
      Scheming time, carrots to fashion, fodder for fools the 6th May is approaching.

  4. Yo all

    Welcome to another day in The Globally Warmed, Locked Down Land, formerly known as UK

    At times,it seems to me we are undergoing Holcaust II, with masks replacing the Yellow Stars
    and Track and Trace being run by the NHS et al,not the Guestapo

  6. Good Morning Folks,

    Cold frosty start here, it looked like we were in for a nice sunrise but now it has clouded over.

    1. Open box before eating pizza

      Having bought pizzas from some of the ‘chains’, you need this guideline, cus you the pizza and the box are

      probably similar in taste, with the box coming out just in front

      1. They are also stupidly expensive for peasant food. If i fancy a pizza (not often) i make my own a a fraction of the price.

        1. Talking about stupidly expensive – I received a birthday present of a 400g Wagyu A5-grade steak from my sons. I finally got around to cooking it last night. I was terrified of screwing it up as it costs over £200/kg! I didn’t mercifully and served it with hasselback potatoes, teriyaki mushrooms with a red cabbage and fennel slaw. It was very tasty and the steak literally meted in your mouth due to the high fat content but worth that sort of money….? I’ll have to thing about that.

          1. Nice present from your sons.

            I don’t believe there is true Wagyu in the UK. They use the sperm from the Wagyu bull but then use dairy cows. A good breed of dairy cow i’m sure.

            I had it once in a restaurant as i wanted to see what all the fuss was about. Yes, very tasty and melt in the mouth.

            Would i buy it again? No.

          2. This was a Japanese import (hence the high price, I suspect). There must be some very rich Japanese cattle farmers is all I can say.

          3. You had the real deal then.

            I somewhat doubt the actual farmers that do all the work get rich.

  10. Things are reopening, life is returning to normal, but not how we knew it.
    Everything has been scientifically and psychologically zombiefied.
    Just to keep us all in limbo for the next loss of freedom

    1. 331428+ up ticks,
      Morning B3,
      And we can reinforce their incarceration agenda with a mass lab/lib/con coalition vote on the 6th May.

    2. Things are reopening for Ramadan, but have we had any guarantee from the PTB that things won’t close down again after Ramadan?

  12. Queen says Prince Philip’s death has left ‘a huge void’. 12 April 2021.

    Prince Andrew, speaking as private prayers were held at the Royal Chapel of All Saints at Royal Lodge, Windsor, gave a first glimpse into the Queen’s deep personal sorrow. “The Queen, as you would expect, is an incredibly stoic person. She described his passing as a miracle and she’s contemplating, I think, is the way I would put it. She described it as having left a huge void in her life,” Andrew said.

    He added it was a “terrible loss”, describing Philip as “almost the grandfather of the nation”. His father’s death had “brought it home to me, not just our loss, but actually the loss that everybody else has felt, for so many people who have died and lost loved ones during the pandemic”, he said.

    Andrew, who stepped down from royal duties in November 2019 amid controversy over his friendship with the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein, added: “And so we are all in the same boat – slightly different circumstances, because he didn’t die from Covid, but we’re all feeling a great sense of loss.”

    I caught this toad on the BBC News last night trying to reinstate himself by his faux concern over the death of his Father!

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/apr/11/queen-says-prince-philip-death-has-left-a-huge-void

    2. because he didn’t die from Covid,

      How Why on earth did Johnson, the NHS, SAGE etc not manage to leap on the COVID bnadwagon for his death

        1. Good morning AK.

          I’m not sure what i have just read. I have read so many good things about the Duke recently that that article grated somewhat.

          I think it showed a distinct lack of respect, knowledge and above all humour which the Duke embodied.

          Perhaps it is because i am unaccustomed orientalreview.

          1. mng Ogga, can understand your point well. From the perspective of the author of piece, wanting to grind an axe / points he wanted to put across, without encompassing your points re respect, knowledge and humour. However, one cannot re-write history, DoE did what he did, and said what he said and in general, “we” understood the context. Orientalreview has some decent non MSM / PC posts

          2. Yes. I did read a previous link of yours from orientalreview that made sense. Much just be that particular columnist.

            Me no Ogga. I have more than one thing to post.

          4. Bookmarked: Interesting. An antidote to the guff we get from the Beeboids.

            Also, If i want any news on France that the Beeb say is not newsworthy (gilets jaunes) I go to Press TV. (Iranian)

          5. no prob and thanks re Press TV. You’ll find Thierry Meyssan is top drawer. I think he used to be mil avisor for Pres Mitterrand, his info is sound and he backs intel up with embedded links. This would cause a mental tsunami in BBC heads

      2. Just had a thought

        If one of most isolated and protected persons on the Planet, who has obeyed ALL the Covid rules, dies from it,
        the person-in-the-street does not stand a chance, so why should they bother with the stupidity of Lockdown Land Rules

      3. Just had a thought

        If one of most isolated and protected persons on the Planet, who has obeyed ALL the Covid rules, dies from it,
        the person-in-the-street does not stand a chance, so why should they bother with the stupidity of Lockdown Land Rules

  15. DT pushing their own agenda with letter content, in the main, out of kilter with reality given the thread title: That said, a beer with Francis Zulu would be fun

    SIR – The Duke of Edinburgh, a man of private faith, also used his role to bring together different faith groups. He founded St George’s House in 1966 as a forum for civil society, faith groups and others to debate significant issues.

    For many years he presented the Templeton Prize, which recognised outstanding religious and spiritual leadership. He organised an interfaith dialogue between Jews, Christians, and Muslims in 1984, together with Sir Evelyn de Rothschild and Crown Prince El Hassan of Jordan.

    He built on this by founding the Alliance of Religions and Conservation in 1995 to mobilise the great faiths to work on environmental challenges. He had the foresight to see that their moral teachings, and 80 per cent of the world’s population, could be part of the solution to social problems.

    At the Coronation in 1953, he said that “Faith and truth I will bear unto you,” and his pioneering engagement with faith groups was an important dimension of the wide-ranging and impactful work he did.

    Zaki Cooper
    Trustee, Council of Christians and Jews
    London SW1

    SIR – Two people have caused me to laugh out loud on a train:

    P G Wodehouse because of something he wrote. Prince Philip because of something he had said.

    Christopher Hartley
    London SE25

    SIR – I am sorry the media can only repeat “shock horror” over the Duke of Edinburgh’s joke to students in China in 1986. I was then in the Beijing Embassy and was the senior official accompanying Prince Philip for his hard-working individual programme – first in Shanghai visiting a British company’s brand-new float glass plant, and then in Guangzhou to talk about agriculture to farmers in a commune.

    Prince Philip was a consummate professional, as I observed then and during the more formal banquets and receptions. The fact that a single British student should blurt out a private conversation, and that this became the story, is a distortion of the reality of a highly successful tour. It was a privilege to watch him in action.

    Hugh Ll Davies
    Cucklington, Somerset

    SIR – Certain media, who portrayed Prince Philip as being known for just gaffes, seem suddenly to have discovered a man of great substance.

    Would it be asking too much for another figure to be given a fairer reflection of his real substance, rather than just someone who talks to plants?

    Carl Brumpton
    Ticehurst, East Sussex

    SIR – I was privileged to be the section leader of a group of Army Cadets who were selected to be the guinea pigs for the Duke of Edinburgh’s Award. The team was filmed and I was invited to Buckingham Palace to see the premier of The Way Ahead, where I was presented to the Duke of Edinburgh.

    I can still remember, 64 years later, listening at home to the evening news recording the event. What a day.

    David Burrows
    Barton on Sea, Hampshire

    SIR – My father served with Prince Philip during the war and he invited my parents to his wedding to Princess Elizabeth. As I was only 11 years old, he kindly arranged for me to be looked after by the staff at Buckingham Palace until my parents came to collect me.

    V E Hooper
    Yatton, Somerset

    The menace of magpies

    SIR – Magpies could be major contributors to the decline of small garden birds (report, April 9). We hardly ever saw them when we moved here in the 1970s, now there are six or more in the garden every day. They sit near the feeders and fly along the hedges looking for nests. The small birds, including a flock of long-tailed tits who used to visit our silver birches, no longer dare under the magpies’ menacing, protected gaze.

    Kay East
    Marden, Kent

    SIR – The RSPB makes much of the decline in finches and other small birds. However, no mention is made of the vast increase in larger birds, such as the collared doves, magpies, ravens and seagulls that populate our garden.

    With our feeder, we have only managed to keep going a few families of coal and blue tits, and the odd chaffinch.

    David Billington
    Formby, Lancashire

    SIR – I suggest that the decline in bird numbers is linked to the rise in the use of electric hedge trimmers.

    During the nesting season last year, every afternoon was enlivened by the sound of lockdown man wielding this implement. There should be a close season for hedge trimming.

    Jean White
    Wythall, Worcestershire

    One careful driver

    SIR – This morning in the post I received a statement of account following the purchase of our car. In bold lettering it stated: “If you would like this in braille please ask.”

    Lynne Hedworth
    Burton Bradstock, Dorset

    Fight against infection

    SIR – Surgical site infections (in the incision created by an invasive surgical procedure) are among the most common forms of healthcare associated infection, and have been neglected by governments for too long. It is incumbent on this Government, as it rebuilds our health service in the aftermath of the Covid pandemic, to put minimising the risk of surgical site infection at the heart of its strategy.

    These infections have a devastating impact on patients, their families and the NHS. One in 20 patients undergoing a surgical procedure contracts a surgical site infection, which are estimated to cost between £10,000 and £100,000 per patient. Every infected patient represents a step back in the fight against antimicrobial resistance. With budgets already at breaking point, we should do all we can to avoid the financial burden of surgical site infections, many of which are preventable.

    As the NHS starts clearing the backlog in elective care operations, each nation of the UK must act expeditiously to minimise the prevalence and impact of surgical site infections.

    The pandemic has shown the incredible feats that can be achieved when the NHS is given the resources and support it needs. We call on the Government to act now on behalf of patients, families and caregivers.

    Dawn L Stott
    CEO, Association for Perioperative Practice

    Yasin Mohamad Shaikh
    Surgical first assistant, Liverpool University Hospital

    Sara Rodriguez-Sarkozi
    Surgical care practitioner, University Hospitals Coventry and Warwickshire

    Peter Bobak
    Orthopaedic consultant, Bradford Teaching Hospitals

    Alison Davies
    Student operating department practitioner, Royal Derby Hospital

    Paula Clements
    Theatre matron, Alder Hey Children’s NHS Foundation Trust
    Julia Olszewska

    Surgical care practitioner, Queen Elizabeth Hospital
    Ndidi Chidume

    Senior scrub practitioner, Whittington Hospital
    Jacqueline Joy

    Student operating department practitioner
    Princess Alexandra Hospital

    Sue Green
    Operating department practitioner, East Suffolk and North Essex Foundation Trust

    Jennifer Cuttell
    Senior clinical educator, University Hospitals of Derby

    Ibrahim Hemaida
    Theatre coordinator, Western Eye Hospital

    Viji Venkat Lakshmi
    Theatre scrub practitioner, Russells Hall NHS Trust

    Keith Wilson
    Patient ambassador, Liverpool Heart and Chest Hospital

    Susan Heal
    Staff nurse, Queens Theatres, University Hospitals Bristol and Weston NHS Foundation Trust


    Dominique Malik
    Student operating department practitioner, Wrightington, Wigan and Leigh NHS Trust

    Christopher Gorse
    Scrub nurse, Royal Lancaster Infirmary

    Francis Zulu
    Orthopaedics team leader, Charing Cross Hospital

    Divyabala Patel
    Operating department practitioner, Royal Free Hospital

    Jayne Anne Aggidis
    Registered nurse, University Hospitals of Morecambe Bay NHS Foundation Trust

    Heidi Greenfield
    Registered nurse, North Bristol NHS Trust

    Nanci Castelao
    Clinical practice educator, North West Anglia Foundation Trust

    Faith Magumise
    Lead theatre practitioner, Kettering General Hospital

    Nathaniel Johnson
    Senior staff nurse, Bedford hospital

    Anna Thompson
    Surgical site infection surveillance nurse specialist, Ashford and St Peter’s Trust

    Lorielin Sidney Robinson
    Senior theatre practitioner, University College London Hospital

    Eugene Sheehy
    Senior operating department practitioner, St James’s University Hospital

    Benedicto Balagot
    Advanced theatre practitioner, Watford General Hospital

    Gauver Surkari
    Senior theatre sister, Ealing Hospital

    Thomas J P Muldoon
    Operating department practitioner, Royal Manchester Children’s Hospital

    Malgorzata Garner
    Surgical care practitioner, Addenbrooke’s Hospital

    Luke J Rogers
    Associate surgical specialty lead, University Hospitals Plymouth NHS Trust

    Rose Pongan
    Senior theatre anaesthetic nurse, University College London Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust

    Selbourne Maynard
    Senior operating department practitioner, Northwick Park Hospital Trust

    Wilhelmina Somera
    Specialist theatre practitioner, Churchill Hospital

    Karen Landels
    Charge nurse, Victoria Hospital

    Colin Carey
    Senior operating department practitioner, University Hospital Southampton

    Adrian Jones
    Orthopaedic surgical site surveillance lead, Norfolk and Norwich University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust

    Beverley-Jane Street
    Paediatric staff nurse, Queens Medical Centre

    Joseph Banda John
    Preregistration operating department practitioner, University of Portsmouth

    Professor Mike Reed
    Consultant orthopaedic surgeon, Northumbria Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust

    Maria Boutabba
    Surgical care practitioner, Surrey and Sussex NHS Trust

    Susan Lord
    Practice development nurse, Princess Alexandra Hospital NHS Trust

    Desanka Babic
    Practice educator, Royal Marsden Hospital

    Sarah Russell
    Operating department practitioner, Salisbury District Hospital

    Easing into reality

    SIR – You report (April 9) that all pub-goers must sign in using the NHS Covid-19 track and trace app from April 12, and that publicans are telling people not to forget their phones. This implies that, as I don’t have a smartphone, I will not be able to visit a pub.

    However, the government guidelines state that all customers or visitors must be asked to check in to the venue or provide their contact details, which can be done using the NHS Covid-19 app, but also that pubs must have a system in place to ensure information can be collected from visitors who do not have a smartphone or don’t want to use the NHS app.

    Annie Appleyard
    Godstone, Surrey

    SIR – I am a deputy head teacher who currently has to teach lessons wearing a mask to students who also wear masks. This is in spite of almost every piece of research declaring that the risks to students’ and teachers’ health in the classroom is minuscule, but the damage done to their learning and mental health is substantial.

    I then read that the “healthy young” will not be receiving the AstraZeneca vaccine (report, April 8) because the risks outweigh the benefits.

    Now class, today’s lesson is all about double standards.

    Anthony Lord
    Thornton-Cleveleys, Lancashire

    Wardrobe of words

    SIR – My first port of call when shops reopen today will be the local Cancer Research charity shop, which always has an excellent selection of second-hand books. Much more interesting than new clothes.

    Susan Wood
    Maidenhead, Berkshire

    The perfect shade inspires a case of the blues

    SIR – When I won my Cambridge Blue (Letters, April 8), and spent a fortune on various pieces of “on-and off-pitch” wear, I was told in Ryder & Amies that the colour was “duck-egg blue”. Luckily the Blue was for soccer, not cricket.

    Malcolm Bailey
    Carlecotes, South Yorkshire

    SIR – Does anyone else remember buying gobstoppers in the 1950s, light or dark blue according to whether they supported Oxford or Cambridge?

    Richard Colley
    Skipton, North Yorkshire

    SIR – Although Eton Blue has been compared to Cambridge Blue (Letters, April 8), Eton’s pantone is 7464c.

    In Tasmania some time ago a small wine producer called Stefano Lubiana was threatened by a well-known champagne house for infringement of its pantone 137c (a neon orange colour having an approximate luminance of 74 per cent). The publicity that surrounded this case meant that his languishing stocks of excellent non-vintage fizz, with their own particular orange label, sold out overnight in a burst of Australian patriotism. Touché!

    Michael Mackenzie
    London W8

    The curious fork convention across the pond

    SIR – Mike Williams’s point (Letters, April 9) concerning a fork in the dominant hand is a curious one.

    I have noticed that Americans approach their plate of food in the conventional way, then transfer their fork to the dominant hand before eating. Why is this?

    Gray Wilson
    Crowle, Worcestershire

    SIR – Only left-handers will remember the years spent writing awkwardly on right-handed cheque stubs, until a left-handed book was issued. Now I don’t have to write cheques ever again.

    Denise Hilton
    Guildford, Surrey

    SIR – My husband is right-handed but his mother is left-handed. He was brought up using a left-handed potato peeler (Letters, April 8), with which he would whittle the potatoes.

    During our early marriage he insisted he could not use a right-handed peeler and therefore escaped potato duties. We have now discovered the scraper-type peelers, which can be used with either hand, so he has to take his turn with the potatoes.

    Anne Hanley
    Gunnislake, Cornwall

    SIR – When I married in 1961, my mother bought me a left-handed iron. Not as daft as it sounds: in those days, irons had the cable firmly
    fixed to the right-hand “heel”.

    The Anything Lefthanded shop just off Piccadilly Circus would certainly have stocked a left-handed gravy ladle (Letters, April 8).

    Jill Silversides
    Worthing, West Sussex

    SIR – I have looked high and low for a left-handed cake fork. A very first-world, middle-class, middle-of-the-afternoon problem!

    Penelope Sparrow
    Stockport, Cheshire

    1. I have noticed that Americans approach their plate of food in the conventional way, then transfer their fork to the dominant hand before eating. Why is this?

      Possibly becaue they are not neurotic introspectives who have better things to do with their time than concern themselves with irrelevancies?

      2. Give me irrelevancies, give me ennui !

        In contrast to the European hidden handle grip, in the American style the fork is held much like a spoon or pen once it is transferred to the right hand to convey food to the mouth. Etiquette experts have noted that the American style of fork-handling is in decline, being perceived as inefficient and pretentious. Wiki.

        My view is that they haven’t left the nursery yet.

        I remember watching a video of William Hanson the etiquette expert showing American’s how to approach afternoon tea in a posh hotel.

        Just like Grizz’s Swedish pals they were at a complete loss. Apparently it is rocket science.

        1. Just as the rationale behind driving “wrong side of the road”, the consequence of horse reins held in left hand, gun in the right. Getting Demented Joe to explain that will, as you say, rocket science

    2. Good morning folks, It’s nice of Carl Brumpton to give his support to the ostracised David Bellamy. Oh, wait…

    3. “When I married in 1961, my mother bought me a left-handed iron. Not as daft as it sounds: in those days, irons had the cable firmly fixed to the right-hand “heel”.”
      What a nice idea. I suppose it would fit in a standard golf bag?

  16. Crumbs. What a surprise. I though half the Sahara desert had been dumped on the cars, and then realised the substance was hideously white.
    Good Moaning.

      1. 🙂
        With a bit of forethought, I could have sprinkled shampoo over the cars last night.

    2. Yes, I noted the white stuff lying up the garden through the stair window as I came down this morning.

  17. Good morning from a beautifully sunny Derbyshire with a cloudless sky, a light splattering of snow and a bloody cold -4½°C in the yard!
    The Blackthorn Winter is taking some shaking off!

  19. Naming Drugs

    All drugs have two names, a trade name and generic name.

    Example, the trade name is Tylenol and its generic name is Acetaminophen..
    Aleve is also called Naproxen.
    Amoxil is also called Amoxicillin and Advil is also called Ibuprofen.

    The FDA had been looking for a generic name for Viagra.
    After careful consideration by a team of government experts, it recently
    announced that it has settled on the generic name of Mycoxafloppin.

    Also considered were Mycoxafailin, Mydixadrupin, Mydixarizin, Dixafix, and of course, Ibepokin.

    Pfizer Corp. announced today that Viagra will soon be available in liquid form, and will be marketed by Pepsi Cola as a power beverage suitable for use as a mixer.

    It will now be possible for a man to literally pour himself a stiff one.

    Obviously, we can no longer call this a soft drink, and it gives new meaning to the names of ‘cocktails’, ‘highballs’ and just a good old-fashioned ‘stiff drink’.

    Pepsi will market the new concoction by the name of: MOUNT & DO.

    Thought for the day: There is more money being spent on breast implants and Viagra today than on Alzheimer’s research.

    This means that by 2030, there should be a large elderly population with perky boobs and huge erections and absolutely no recollection of what to do with either or both of them.

  20. It’s snowing here, as in many places. I take it as a sign that God wants us to eat and drink indoors. Johnson et al should take note.

  22. Crass headline of the year in The Grimes this morning:

    “Prince Philip’s death ‘has left a huge void’ in Queen’s life”

    1. After a later death in the family

      Cringe hurts her back, dancing on Ginge’s Tomb

  23. 331428+ up ticks,
    Morning Each,
    Dt,
    People must behave ‘responsibly’ as lockdown eases, warns Boris Johnson, ( or else, O)

    The Prime Minister said Monday marks a ‘major step forward in our roadmap to freedom’ but urged caution.

    To mention major does NOT instil confidence for starters, and as for mass sapping of confidence how about johnson the tory (ino) party
    coxswain, he puts the frighteners up many a timid soul, as the agenda calls for.

  25. Morning all from a bright and Sunny Finland with an expected 10C today..the first in double figures this year.
    I see from the British press that the Russians are doing a bit of looming near the Ukrainian border.
    I’ll say that much for Russia..they can loom with the best of them.

  27. Vladimir Putin Just Officially Banned Same-Sex Marriage In Russia. 12 April 2021.

    With the stroke of a pen, Russian President Vladimir Putin formally enacted a series of anti-LGBTQ+ amendments banning marriage equality and transgender adoptions, and centering “a belief in God” as a core value of the country. The homophobic and transphobic amendments were passed last July in a national referendum, with over 77 percent of voters casting their ballots in support of the measures. According to a report in the AP, the new rules also reset Putin’s term limits as president, meaning he can serve an additional two six-year terms in office.

    My admiration for this man knows no bounds. He’s not standing for election here is he? I’d vote for him tomorrow! Vlad for Prime Minister!

    https://www.out.com/news/2021/4/07/vladimir-putin-just-official-banned-same-sex-marriage-russia

    1. There’s a lot more in the new Constitution.
      No member of The Duma or The Senate can own property outside Russia nor can they have a foreign bank account.

    2. The homophobic and transphobic amendments

      These are Woke Words

      Strange that a seemingly Marxist Communist country can uphold Christian values and our
      ‘government’ support the Other Lot

      Slowly slowly drippy our Beliefs away

      1. Russia hasn’t been a Marxist Communist country since the fall of the USSR.
        The Communist party polls around 4%

          2. No – because they know that would not be successful.

            I recall in Roumania, all the people who voted Communist changed their allegiance to a “democratic” party – ensuring that the same people were in charge as before – yet “re-branded”.

    3. the key words in the link “amendments passed by voters”. At a stroke [no pun intended] he now has his own battalion of “Tramplers” [some of you here will know that inference] and place them on the Ukraine border, or wherever it’s deemed logistically needed

      2. As opposed to the Senile Pervert in the White House who espouses the American Way or the Congenital Liar in 10 Downing Street who spouts Democracy to accompany every falsehood?

        1. You can lead a horse to water………………………………………………………………………..

        2. Much like Poland. As a Soviet state Poland was 99% Communist, and 100% Catholic.

    5. It sounds like he is defending faith and family. No wonder the globalists hate him. Lie about him. Try to provoke him.

      Good morning, Minty.

    7. Funny how we were brought up to believe that in Russia what the ordinary people wanted was irrelevant while in Britain the views of the ordinary person counted for something.

      Now it’s the other way round!

      1. It’s certainly a childhood certainty turned on its head.
        I can understand the civil ceremony, if only for the legal cover and recognition of long standing commitment to another person, but no government should be able to override religious beliefs other than those that deliberately cause physical harm.

      1. 331428+ up ticks,
        Morning HM,
        In this case it is what we make it via the polling booth.

          1. 331428+ up ticks,
            Morning AWK,
            If found NOT to be then the country must be bordering on civil war.

          2. currently, that’s my gut feeling. Elections are being used as part of the deception game. In UK, those in HoL, HoC, courts etc. all ignore from our last civil war, the agreement reached is between the people and the Sovereign [the Queen and the people, in general, know this]. You won’t get MSM, MPs ever getting near that baseline of reality

          3. 331428+ up ticks,
            AWK,
            Same as you won’t get many a current lab/lib/con coalition party member agreeing whilst under the three monkey mode of voting.

            Maybe the Great Charter party should be the cornerstone of the PEOPLE’S RESET.

          4. it could be, but anything approaching the use of any public means of dispensing information / mechanisms will be corralled, reeled in and neutered. Simply put, playing the game within the rules to get to the point of voting [be it in an orderly queue, or, I don’t discount under current restrictions, oneline] and vote counting publically checked in every constituency not involving and political party affiliations. the danger being, with online voting is number manipulation. That said how many people have the gumption and resolve to see it through? Not all in UK accept the old political party system’s dead

          5. aware of this? https://greatreject.org/nuremberg-israel-pfizer-genocide/ as usual use the history to define the parameters aka Nuremberg Code which UK has broken. And given recent events, this is relevant [I’d posted this earlier on yesterday’s thread liaising with Oberstleutnant]

            “‘It is a complete misconception to imagine that the monarchy exists in the interests of the monarch. It doesn’t. It exists in the interests of
            the people. If at any time any nation decides that the system is unacceptable, then it is up to them to change it.’

            Prince Philip

          1. The upper echelons of The Civil Service aided and abetted by The Establishment run Britain regardless of who is Prime Minister.

          2. 331428+ up ticks,
            HM,
            Yes, the truth being it is adhering to the same voting pattern lab/lib/con close shop coalition, that has brought us to our present state as a Nation.

            What has NOT been tried is stepping outside of the ( MPs delight ) the close shop coalition to
            support & vote for an opposition to the close shop.

            Take a chainsaw to the family tree
            mode of voting.

        3. If voting ever changed anything it would have been abolished.

          Elections are now the equivalent of sewage. Going through the motions.

          1. 331428+ up ticks,
            Morning AtG,
            With some alteration I would say, voting has changed plenty
            in so far as the political sewage is returned to power time & again via the polling booth and peoples consent.

            If a person kisses X a lab/lib/con candidate in the polling booth then they are giving their consent meaning NO whingees post vote.

  29. On the hygene front, I skipped a shower yesterday afternoon

    Literally: It went into an 8 cu yd skip.

      1. Mr Heath Robinson designed alternative equipment wil be delivered today.

        Our Amazon deliverer drives a likkle Red Van…. and delivers letters when not dropping off important parcels

  30. BBbc News having a wake-fest for the BB ‘star’ Nicky Grahaeme, who died from not eating enough. Ten minutes of a talking head going on about mental health issues and how easy it is to binge eat during lockdown. Methinks Nicky only got on BB because she had issues.

    1. A-A thanks. this is one of the reasons I enjoy this site, apart from saving me the thought of checking BBC. No idea who this departed person is, clearly a non entity

      2. I doubt anyone on here knows who she is/was. Trash telly for the gormless masses. Now the BBC’s prime purpose.

    2. Mental Health is the latest buzzword, the wokes and snowflakes feel left out if they don’t have ‘issues’. In my day we just got on with life

    3. The Story of Augustus who would not have any Soup

      Augustus was a chubby lad;
      Fat, ruddy cheeks Augustus had;
      And everybody saw with joy
      The plump and hearty, healthy boy,
      He ate and drank as he was told
      And never let his soup get cold.

      But one day, one cold winter’s day
      He screamed out-‘Take the soup away:
      Oh, take the nasty soup away!
      I won’t have any soup today.’

      Next day begins his tale of woes,
      Quite lank and lean Augustus grows,
      Yet though he feels so weak and ill,
      The naughty fellow cries out still-
      ‘Not any soup for me I say:
      Oh, take the nasty soup away!
      I won’t have any soup today.’

      The third day comes; oh’ what a sin!
      To make himself so pale and thin.
      Yet, when the soup is put on table,
      He screams as loud as he is able,-
      ‘Not any soup for me, I say:
      Oh take the nasty soup away!
      I won’t have any soup to-day.’

      Look at him, now the fourth’s day’s come!
      He scarcely weighs a sugar-plum;
      He’s like a little bit of thread
      And on the fifth day he was dead!

      2. I can recite that …

        When I was twelve I had to learn that for an exam , and a large chunk of Hiawatha , Clementina (in Latin ) which I had to sing … oh yes , and I can still remember them now, and to be terribly boring to the family.. must be me aging horribly .

        We learned so many things by rote , that my mind is now full of nonsense!

        1. We had to learn Abou Ben Adhem. I can still recite it to this day.

          The same with Shelley ‘Rarely, rarely comest thou, Spirit of Delight’.

    4. Like alcoholics, anorexics were a nightmare to nurse. They were often clever enough to ‘present well’ at the right time.

  31. Good morning, my friends

    A good TV opportunity for today:

    BARBERING BORIS THE BUMBLER

    The prime minister will visit a hairdresser and order a close cut in front of the MSM’s photographers and television cameras.

  32. Good morning all

    I light covering of snow in Woking this morning but rapidly disappearing.

      1. I have always liked that music even when we lived in Guildford.

        Yes Anne and the centre of the universe! :-))

        Famed, also, for its Pizza Express.

        1. For an awful moment I thought I’d confused it with Dorking.
          Note to self: must venture south of the river if Johnson ever allows it.

          1. Don’t bother coming to Woking unless it’s to see us.

            The town is being wrecked by the council building umpteen tower blocks up to 34 stories high. The ugliest of them, and they’re all ugly, is like a very poor impression of a Benson & Hedges cigarette pack but without the ‘artistic’ value.

            It would be a great improvement if they replaced them with the, much better, artists impression.

          2. Aaaah, artists impressions. Ayr town council received funding from Holyrood and Westminster to build new council offices, as their 1970s build was failing the test of time. An area of land at the north end of the High Street along the River Ayr was to be cleared, with the local rag showing images of the ‘present’ derelict shops (some might suggest, empty due to the high business rates imposed by the same council) and the ‘new’ riverside buildings, including the council building, a hotel, cafes and riverside seating (all in the shade of the council building to their immediate south), with bathers in the river…obviously not locals!

            Unfortunately for the councilors, as there was absolutely no provision for parking, no major hotel chain was willing to support the site. The councilors also overlooked the fact that the buildings at either end of the proposed clearance were listed buildings and could not therefore be demolished. In a further setback to the councilors, at a public meeting to discuss the new council building, it was disclosed that this would not be an original design, intended to be sympathetic to the riverside location, but just a building the proposed architects had on file and doubles of which had been lobbed up elsewhere.

            The meeting descended into farce, as the councilors had money for ‘their’ new building burning their pockets whilst the locals would not agree to being fobbed off with nothing but new premises for the council.

            That was over 18 months ago and since then the cleared land has stood empty with the listed buildings acting as goalposts and the rest of the High Street emulating Beirut. Perhaps next months elections will kickstart the process, but only if the councilors realise that the taxpayers want value for their money. Ha, ha, ha…

          3. Aaaah, artists impressions. Ayr town council received funding from Holyrood and Westminster to build new council offices, as their 1970s build was failing the test of time. An area of land at the north end of the High Street along the River Ayr was to be cleared, with the local rag showing images of the ‘present’ derelict shops (some might suggest, empty due to the high business rates imposed by the same council) and the ‘new’ riverside buildings, including the council building, a hotel, cafes and riverside seating (all in the shade of the council building to their immediate south), with bathers in the river…obviously not locals!

            Unfortunately for the councilors, as there was absolutely no provision for parking, no major hotel chain was willing to support the site. The councilors also overlooked the fact that the buildings at either end of the proposed clearance were listed buildings and could not therefore be demolished. In a further setback to the councilors, at a public meeting to discuss the new council building, it was disclosed that this would not be an original design, intended to be sympathetic to the riverside location, but just a building the proposed architects had on file and doubles of which had been lobbed up elsewhere.

            The meeting descended into farce, as the councilors had money for ‘their’ new building burning their pockets whilst the locals would not agree to being fobbed off with nothing but new premises for the council.

            That was over 18 months ago and since then the cleared land has stood empty with the listed buildings acting as goalposts and the rest of the High Street emulating Beirut. Perhaps next months elections will kickstart the process, but only if the councilors realise that the taxpayers want value for their money. Ha, ha, ha…

    1. 331428+ up ticks,
      Morning Anne,
      Whereas the events leading up to WW3 are now pretty much out in the open.

      1. I blame the marriage between Princess Charlotte and Prince Leopold of what became Belgium.

  35. Gray Wilson asks why Americans approach their food in a conventional manner then transfer the fork to the dominant hand to eat it – why? WHY? I’ll tell you why – they eat in a slovenly manner because they’ve never mastered the art of eating with a knife and fork. Knives to them is for stabbing other people.

    1. Our American friend says it’s was to show you were a Republican rather than a Royalist.

    2. Our American friend says it’s was to show you were a Republican rather than a Royalist.

    3. Good morning, Spikey

      Barbarism to decadence missing out on culture on the way!

      I am constantly reminded of these lines in Michael Flanders’s song about English superiority:

      The English, the English, the English are best
      So up with the English and down with the rest!
      It’s not that they’re wicked or naturally bad
      It’s knowing they’re foreign that makes them so mad!

    4. They also eat their pizza with their paws, which has a certain logic but what do the Italians do?

      1. I have to admit, that I’ve been trying to put down this past year to cock-up rather than conspiracy, but I’m beginning to find that theory increasingly untenable.

        1. I just think there are people who are very good at taking advantage of cock-ups and will do their damndest to drive everyone in a direction they have found suits them.
          So a mix of conspiracy and stupidity is my preferred theory.

    3. the age old problem for those actively pursuing the Great Reset, is they post their intentions in advance, so as “feeling” being annointed by corporate MSM while attemtping to play the deception game

  37. A couple of days ago I posted a photo of The Duke of Edinburgh sailing in a Flying Fifteen racing dinghy during Cowes week. This led me to look up a chap whom I used to know as a child in St Mawes on Wikipedia because, not only did we sail dinghies together, but I once crewed for him in his Flying Fifteen. William Shawcross has gone on to have a fairly notable career in journalism and as an author and so I thought I would look him up the internet.

    I knew that he had written the official biography of the Queen Mother but I was delighted to be reminded that he supported Britain’s exit from the EU and interested to discover that in 2006 he had……. warned of “a vast fifth column” of Muslims in Europe who “wish to destroy us”; we should not shy away from labelling the problem “Islamic fascism”.

    And of course Douglas Murray tries constantly to remind us of this very grave danger – but why are the politicians so determined to ignore it? And why are the people who agree with their views vilified?

    2. They want it to happen.
      Just look at what (Bliar?) said years ago – wanted to rub our smug white noses in it – and of course, they think it means more power for them.
      If they didn’t want it, it would be stopped. It’s not that difficult. So, since they don’t do anything but encourage it, they clearly want the place filled with blacks and scoundrels.

      1. ‘Morning, Paul, “...they clearly want the place filled with blacks and scoundrels.”

        I’m almost tempted to ask, “And the difference is?” but I won’t.

        1. NTN, the script / agenda’s clear. Remove existing, indigenous people with knowledge [C-19] expedite with wider restrictions on access to money etc, replace with cheap labour, skin colour irrelevant, maintain command and control [additional proxy force = BLM for example]. Copy / paste approach anywhere in Western hemisphere. Africa etc, use propped up proxies to maintain instability while land, resource grabbing continues

          1. Cheap labour? Who says they are coming to work? Why work when, just for getting here, they are housed, get benefits, their kids schooled, Healthcare and a country with full infrastructure already in place. Masses of RoPers have brought us grooming gangs, rapes of thousands of young children, County lines drug gangs, numerous driving offences by untested, incapable lunatics “driving” using someone else’s license, no insurance, no MoT on the car etc etc. They also bring constant demands for this country to change “to their culture”. Professional at “playing the victim”, they are permanently angry – everything they don’t like ( thats a LOT ) it is ALWAYS someone else’s fault – never theirs. As for the lies of “Don’t eat pork or drink alcohol”.

          2. Eventually that will stop and everyone (the plebs. that is, of whatever hue) will have to work. Just that the indigenous will come at the back of the queue.

        1. As we already know the answer I suppose we do not need to ask the question:

          “Why did Blair rob mainly white British people living and working in the EU – as the politicians said they should – of their votes while giving votes to the masses of coloured immigrants?”

    3. Wiki tells me that Shawcross père was a socialist who owned a 12-metre class yacht.
      Edit: I went to an ASDA store recently and there were pre-recorded Tannoy announcements about special food for Rama ding-dong.

  38. Mrs. Smug posting here.
    Yesterday I introduced a spin on bread pudding. I had half a pack of dried figs, half a jar of mincemeat and a stale loaf.
    Soaked cubed bread and figs overnight and then drained and squeezed out excess water and chopped figs with a stick blender. Whacked in mincemeat, melted butter, brown sugar and a couple of eggs. As a fancy spin, I grated hard goats’ cheese over the top.
    Put it in the oven with other cooking approx reg. 4 or 5.
    This morning, I approached it with caution and had a slice for breakfast. It’s fine; I could have left off the goats’ cheese topping which added little to the finished product.
    p.s. MB is currently indulging in a spot of quality control; he is still alive.

    1. Clever you, well done. Alf will be there ASAP. He loves bread pudding. When we first married I made a bread and butter pudding – oops, wrong one. Never made it since. Alf has made bread pudding occasionally but I think he’d love your version.

      1. When I was in dock a year & a half ago I introduced the Consultant & some of the nurses to the terms “Dropping Ballast” and “Pumping Bilges” to much amusement!

    3. Sounds good Anne. I love figs and Dates………..what time do you finish work 😂🤣😎🤩😉

    4. Sounds good. A bit like a vegetarian terrine. “Terrine de Petit Dejeuner Chez Allan”
      I made steamed pudding* with fruit yesterday. I used sultanas. I soaked marinated them in port. I tend to do this with figs and other similar fruit as it softens the fruit and enhances the flavour. It also adds a touch of alcohol. The fruit is drained of wine before adding to the pudding mixture. The drained wine is retained to be made into sauce, and it can be frozen. Same as for pears poached in wine.

      *Be-Ro recipe book “Delicious Pudding”

      2. I dollied up an Irish Brack recipe by using a mixed dried fruit salad rather than the usual mixed dried fruit. It was moister and lasted longer – apart from being eaten!

  40. Oh for god sake people grow up will you,………. you are going to A&E with a head ache now ?????

    A&E departments are being swamped by people who have developed mild side-effects from the AstraZeneca vaccine amid concerns the jab causes blood clots.

    Should I be worried about the AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine?

    Emergency doctors told the Health Service Journal (HSJ) that a growing number of people are presenting to A&E units after having the jab.

    Some have been advised to go to hospital by GPs.

    Dr Katherine Henderson, the president of the Royal College of Emergency Medicine, confirmed this was the case to the Guardian.

    “It’s definitely a thing,” she said.

    “Colleagues across England are reporting this. All A&E departments are seeing an increase in the number of people reporting concerns after having the AstraZeneca vaccine.

    “We are seeing people with mild headaches and persistent headaches but who are otherwise alright.”

    Obviously too busy doing other things on Saturday the A&E I was in, was almost empty.

    1. Recently a statistician pointed out that your chances of dying from an embolism caused by the Astra Zeneca vaccine are lower than the chances of being killed or seriously injured going to/from the vaccination centre.

      Please drive carefully.

  41. One interesting feature about Putin is that he is a natural opponent of the World Economic Forum / Davos mob.

    Russia’s reliance on Oil (“legacy fuel”) may explain his hostility to Green New Deal, New Normal, Build Back Better bullcr@p.

    I even received a WhatsApp message suggesting that the Czech billionaire (crashed helicopter in Alaska) and the Dorset rich guy murder were Putin hits. I wonder if Zuckerberg, Bezos, and Dorsey have effective 24/7 protection.

    1. BP, Shell have ltd shares in and agreement with Rosneft re oil but somewhat reluctant to admit that fact. VVP and Orban have removed any linkage in the command chain with WEF / Davos

      1. In September 2015, the Russian gas exporter Gazprom and five European energy companies signed an agreement on the Nord Stream 2 pipeline project. The designated shareholders are Gazprom (50%), E. ON (10%), OMV (10%), Shell (10%), Wintershall (10%), and ENGIE (10%).

        2. He was a golden pupil of Blair so he knows a good day to bury bad news when he sees one.

    4. This could be a “where are they now” picture. I recognise Mr Skinner but none of the other jokers*.

      * People actually voted for them. Unbelievable.

  43. European Council president Charles Michel faces calls to resign over sexist ‘Sofagate’ incident
    Mr Michel says he has suffered ‘sleepless nights’ after failing to stand up for Ursula von der Leyen when she was snubbed in Turkey

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/12/european-council-president-charles-michel-faces-calls-resign/

    Further to my post last week: the poor sod can’t win:

    You are sexist if you offer a woman a chair and you are sexist if you don’t!

    2. There was no incident. Protocol provided by Brussels was followed. They are obviously out to get Charles Michel.

      1. No bad thing – the man is (as one would expect in EUSSR high places) an idiot.

    3. Did it not occur to some man to request another chair? Or would that have been too simple a solution! And in any case WTF cares!

    4. He should be fired, if for nothing less than a lack of awareness. What a prick, he should have known to allow his boss to sit first.

  48. Have all the patrons donned their Winter woolies and buggered off dahn a pub?

    1. With “track and trace app” written on a post-it note stuck to my trusty old Nokia? No, not yet.

          4. Yes. The thing on the left is the back plate. It connects via blue tooth enabled devices.

            Only problem is…the ship isn’t answering.

          6. GSM didn’t carry enough connections on each cell.
            But I agree, the mobile internet has damaged society.

      1. You were at Gunwharf and you didn’t tell me ! I’m upset now. :@(

        Dolly isn’t impressed either.

          1. He just pretends to like us. Brought up to be polite, i should say. Hope he gets woodworm. :@)

  49. 🚀Gagarin’s flight was ‘life changing’ for everyone on planet, U.S. Space Foundation CEO says
    Legendary Soviet cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin’s pioneering space flight 60 years ago was life-changing for every nation on the planet, and demonstrated Earth’s gravity need not prevent humanity from exploring the entire universe, U.S.-based Space Foundation CEO Tom Zelibor told Sputnik.
    Monday marks the 60th anniversary of Gagarin’s space flight – the first in human history. On April 12, 1961, Gagarin pronounced his famous “Poyekhali!” (Let’s Go!) as the Vostok spacecraft lifted off the ground, taking the first person ever to space. After orbiting the Earth once, the re-entry module landed on the territory of what was then the Soviet Union.
    “Gagarin’s flight, like Alan Shepard’s a month later, was life-changing for not just the Soviet Union and the US but for everyone on this planet,” Zelibor said. “It showed us all, we do not need to be bound by Earth’s gravity because we have an entire universe to explore.”
    April 12th, he added, “is the day that everything changes for humanity.”
    “One of us from the entire human race takes that first journey into space and after that, we all begin to follow. It’s part of the reason we hold so many explorers in such high esteem,” Zelibor said. “They’ve done something that no one had ever done before, and that spark they offer is all it takes to give someone else the initiative and courage to give it a go and take their bold step forward next.”
    Zelibor went on to say that Gagarin’s flight is emblematic of the human experience to explore and take risks by going into the unknown.

    1. It’s rumoured that he wasn’t strictly the first human in space as one had gone before but had sadly died in the landing

        1. The complex Soyuz 1 mission was brought forward. A challenging, multi-part flight plan was devised, which would see the spacecraft rendezvous with another before returning to Earth. Gagarin himself had been a contender to sit in the cockpit, but was eventually made back-up to his friend and long-time colleague Vladimir Komarov.

          Take-off, on April 23, 1967, took place amid strong objections from Gagarin. Flight technicians had identified 203 separate structural problems with the rocket that would carry the solo cosmonaut, and he agreed that it simply wasn’t ready for the mission. Komarov himself had reportedly told those close to him that he believed he would die on the mission, but didn’t want to back out and leave his friend’s life on the line. Gagarin repeatedly insisted the mission be postponed, but his protestations were ignored.

          The initial phases were a success. But, once in orbit, Komarov radioed in to report that a solar panel had failed to unfold, limiting the vessel’s power. First a sensor array failed, and then the automatic stabilization system, while manual overrides appeared faulty. The mission’s flight plan was aborted, and Gagarin began to read instructions to his friend over the radio as the team on the ground worked to bring the cosmonaut back home.
          However, due to a defect, on re-entry the main parachute did not unfold, although accounts conflict on the reasons behind the failure. In their sensational account of the era, ‘Starman’, Jamie Doran and Piers Bizony claim that US listening posts in Turkey picked up signals from Komarov’s spaceship as he hurtled back towards Earth, crying in rage and cursing the engineers and officials behind the mission for putting him in a rocket that was never ready to fly. His charred remains were exhibited in an open casket, the first fatality of mankind’s fascination with the world beyond our planet. Before the end of the decade, as if to underline the dangers of setting foot off solid ground, Gagarin himself was killed in a fatal crash during a routine training mission aboard a fighter jet.

    2. Then there’s Neil Armstrong’s remark, “Good Luck Mr Gorsky”

      When Apollo Mission Astronaut Neil Armstrong first walked on the moon, he not only gave his famous “One small step for man; one giant leap for mankind” statement, but followed it by several remarks, including the usual COM traffic between him, the other astronauts, and Mission Control. Before he re-entered the lander, he made the enigmatic remark “Good luck, Mr. Gorsky.”Many people at NASA thought it was a casual remark concerning some rival Soviet Cosmonaut. However, upon checking, [they found] there was no Gorsky in either the Russian or American space programs.

      Over the years, many people have questioned him as to what the “Good luck, Mr. Gorsky” statement meant. On July 5, in Tampa Bay, FL, while answering questions following a speech, a reporter brought up the 26- year-old question to Armstrong. He finally responded. It seems that Mr. Gorsky had died and so Armstrong felt he could answer the question. When he was a kid, Neil was playing baseball with his brother in the backyard. His brother hit a fly ball which landed in front of his neighbour’s bedroom window. The neighbours were Mr. and Mrs. Gorsky. As he leaned down to pick up the ball, he heard Mrs. Gorsky shouting at Mr. Gorsky, “Oral sex? Oral sex you want? You’ll get oral sex when the kid next door walks on the moon!”

    1. I’m off for a few early pints at 5 o’clock with 5 friends at my local. I’ve already had a few drinks in the garden with them over the last few weeks. It’ll be nice to see the other regulars too.

      1. I miss my former “locals” in the UK, pleasant company, good atmosphere, goods beers.
        I hope you have a pleasant evening and don’t get a nasty chill.

        1. We’ve been practising in each others’ gardens. A rucksack with booze and warm clothes. Just add another layer as it gets colder, and I won’t have to carry the booze. Oh, except back down the hill on the way home.

      1. 331428+ up ticks,
        Afternoon M,
        I do hope it is like battery acid in a hollow molar, molamola.

    2. The complaint also draws comparisons to Nazi criminals who were convicted of such medical experiments.
      “This is, in effect, a genetic medical experiment on humanity.”
      It also addresses the fact that alternative normal methods of fighting this flu virus were ignored and ridiculed at all times.

      Because of this crime, in Israel only 41% of vaccinated police officers, military personnel, schoolchildren and medical personnel have suffered life-threatening side effects after administering the experimental vaccine, the complaint states.

      “It has already been proven that many people died, were paralyzed, injured and disabled by the vaccine,” the complaint states. Yet the Israeli government simply went ahead with the vaccination program.”

      Something odd about this.
      Edit; I’ve emboldened the bit I find odd.

      2. Yes, I noticed that but thought perhaps it had suffered in translation – ‘only’ instead of ‘alone’?

        Many people have died, suffered injury and disablement from the vaccine here but our government ploughs on, regardless.

        1. Side effects, that I can believe. Life-threatening?
          I am beginning to suspect that the number of life-threatening side effects is higher than the government wants to admit, but 41% is quite a bold claim.

    4. Some time ago the Court of Session in Scotland ruled that a clause in an employment contract that precluded the employee leaving a business and starting up in competition was unlawful.
      The various Covid-19 laws in England and Scotland have prevented many millions of people from earning a living. I am not aware that there has been any legal challenge in this respect, either in England or Scotland.
      If there had been, would the BBC/MSM have reported it?

      1. Well, they didn’t throw up their hands in horror like the SC did in the US regarding the election fraud and throw it straight back out of the door in one move.

  53. 331428+ up ticks,
    The great releasing of the nations stays is in no way meant to be beneficial for the indigenous herd, it was the end of a lesson being taught,one that WILL be used at regular intervals in regards say, to any issue appertaining, in an anti manner, to the great reset.

    Normal voting practices as in lab/lib/con/greens coalition close shop will resume now the penalties / lessons have been learnt, and things will return to lookalike normal.

    Police step up patrols as freedom slowly returns after long lockdown
    Non-essential retail, leisure facilities and beauty businesses have reopened in England – and not a minute too soon for some people

    ramadamabimbam starts today also so many coalition
    members / voters can get some practise in for how things will be ,in the near future.

    1. We have a record for a Aree Nakarintrakupt living at an
      address in Windsor SL4. The record includes the full address, along with
      information about the source of the data that will show whether the
      address is likely to be current. 192.com has records on millions of UK
      people and addresses.

  55. A boring update for you my shower

    Shower rail 2.50 metre long and curtain fitted over barf

    Bath Tap diffuser removed, replaced by shower diverter tap, (a bit like the one that feeds your dishwasher); Long gone are the
    days when you tried to force a rubber hose onto the bath mixer tap

    Shower head and hose fitted

    All systems funtionally tested

        1. It is one of the springloaded ones

          The walls at either end have bulged outwards

  56. A boring update for you my shower

    Shower rail 2.50 metre long and curtain fitted over barf

    Bath Tap diffuser removed, replaced by shower diverter tap, (a bit like the one that feeds your dishwasher); Long gone are the
    days when you tried to force a rubber hose onto the bath mixer tap

    Shower head and hose fitted

    All systems funtionally tested

        2. Eff the Frogs – at least Macron and his gran. Oh is it his mum with a lot of makeup?

          And the gits in the EU – you lot are worthless and not worth our spending ANY more lives or money on.

          1. Amazingly, too, since March 2020, virtually NO ONE has died in France from Cancer, heart attacks, strokes. And, of course, ‘flu has been completely eradicated.

          2. Some fool assured me yesterday on t’internet that masks and lockdown have really stopped the flu virus and the number of covid deaths is down to the far greater virulence of the covid virus…it is amazing how many people still believe this line.

  58. Just returned from the care home, managed a visit inside after a LF test and was able to hug my wife – first for a year – both a lot happier now

      1. Thank you Sue – now I can go when I want as long as I test negative – I do the test at home and supply them with a photo taken with my mobile of the indicator

    6. Bless you both! I’m not particularly religious but I couldn’t think of anything that conveyed my thoughts more.

    7. I’m due to visit my MiL tomorrow – I’ve avoided the LFT as I can’t afford to risk a false positive given other responsibilities….

    8. Hooray, some good news amongst the bad, let’s hope they don’t go backwards on visiting arrangements.

      1. Me too but the PTB are scared of their own shadows up here especially as the LFT is inconclusive but we haven’t had any cases up here

    14. How lovely for both of you!
      The care home may ask you to register each test result online; they should give you a barcode sticker. It looks quite simple, but somehow I forgot to remember. A gag reflex is quite normal when you push the wobbly chopstick down your throat.

  60. The Waitrose delivery man reports very long queues outside Barber shops in Sudbury. Bloody cold here so will wait for warmer weather before venturing to a town.

    1. Hi corimmobile
      re our conversation yesterday, another anecdote:
      Today, I heard about an elderly lady (late 80s) who is dying of cancer. For some reason, she was given the jab (Pfizer, I think), about three-four weeks ago. On Saturday, she was rushed to hospital with an infection. Her family is not allowed to visit, because covid.
      Like all the other cases, it will be not proven…she was so frail that she could have gone any time, etc. But given the results from Norway, I do find it a little surprising that the jab is being given to such frail people who have been given months to live.

      1. I am sorry to say that the politicians, corrupt SAGE stooges and Pharma thugs are pushing untested vaccines for all they are worth. Healthy people do not require vaccinations for some manufactured cold virus.

        It would be better if our government and its agencies focused on preventing the Chinese Communist Party from seeding variants of their cyber weapon virus. Fat chance of that whilst money can be made by the investors in Pharma which include the so-called ‘experts’ advising our crooked government of minnows.

        The measures implemented so far have nothing whatsoever to do with public health. We are dealing with globalist assassins using ‘vaccines’ to achieve their aim of world depopulation.

        This is no conspiracy theory but the bald Truth.

  61. Sorry if this has been debated in full here – I simply can’t manage to follow things that go on here any more to the same extent. BUT my query is:

    Re. all the coverage that was given to Prince Philip’s death a couple of days ago ,especially by the BBC: does anyone else think that it was deliberate provocation by the BBC, to overload their channels with Philip? I.e. to make some people just completely fed up with the Royals?

    There have been people who have lost their own family members, and those who wanted to watch whatever would otherwise been on (I’m afraid I don’t watch TV any more). These people have turned against the coverage, and sometimes indirectly, against the Royal family. Whether right or wrong, IMO this is what the BBC wanted to achieve.

    1. …does anyone else think that it was deliberate provocation by the BBC, to overload their channels with Philip?

      Yes!

    2. Yes. I said so recently. The BBC’s false overkill is designed to make everyone sick and tired. Hidden amongst the false praise are dozens of barbs and sneering comments. It’s the BBC at its left-wing best.

      1. Sorry if I missed yours, Ped.

        It just struck me as so obvious, this overkill. BBC is beneath contempt, and I’m watching less and less TV so that I can stop paying the licence fee. Unfortunately, being a law-abiding person unable to afford Netflix (which I wouldn’t touch with a bargepole) or other “provider, I have to make sure that we won’t watch anything that would catch us in the net.

    3. This would not surprise me. All sorts of mind games are being applied to achieve ‘their’ ends, and the RF stands in the path of One World Government. Like ourselves, it is under attack.

      Good afternoon, HL!

    4. I must admit that the thought did cross my mind.
      If not deliberate, at least it was tone deaf, and therefore done by people with no genuine feeling.

      I find myself unexpectedly sad at the news; Philip seems to embody the passing of a tougher, more admirable era, especially after the self-indulgent, spiteful whine-fest that we had a few weeks ago from his grandson.
      But the coverage in the papers just depresses me more.

      1. Like you, I felt sadness at the news and often find myself reflecting on his loss. They broke the mould when they made people like the DofE.

  62. China encourages citizens to report critics via new ‘snitch hotline’ ahead of 100th birthday. 12 April 2021.

    People told to watch out for anyone who defames the ruling Commmunist Party, its leaders, government policies, or national heroes.

    China’s cyber regulator is encouraging people to snitch on each other for online speech critical of the ruling Communist Party or its official historical narrative ahead of the 100th anniversary of its founding.

    The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) must have got this off the UK government who are very keen for people to report on their neighbours!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/12/china-encourages-citizens-report-critics-via-new-snitch-hotline/

    1. Just goes to show there are still opportunities for some in post-Brexit Britain.

    2. 331428+ up ticks,

      Afternoon LD,
      The wretch, David Cameron and Greensill: What’s it all about … wealthy.

      One of the finest leaders the tory party ( ino) had in the last three decades, and his approach to pig husbandry was beyond belief.

    3. 18th century jobbery; but Cameron has an 18th century face.
      Mentally slap a wig above that face and you have portraits from Hogarth through to Raeburn.

          2. I don’t remember the details, but I remember thinking she was a stinking hypocrite when I read them.

          3. No idea, but it figures. Socialists pretenders are the biggest hypocrites around.

  66. DT Headline

    “It’s not cricket: wickets to be renamed ‘outs’ for The Hundred
    Exclusive: Move inspired by focus groups which suggested cricket terminology was a major barrier to getting people into grounds”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2021/04/12/not-cricket-wickets-renamed-outs-hundred/

    YET ANOTHER MORAL VICTORY FOR THE HOMOSEXUAL LOBBY – OUTING FOR ALL

    Mr Peter Tatchell said he was delighted with the news that cricket has come up to date and thinks that declaring one’s sexuality on the cricket pitch will attract more LGBT people to the game.

    Whether he actually said that or not I cannot confirm – but if the MSM can make things up then so can I!

    1. 331428+ up ticks,
      Afternoon R,
      I am a little confused is that homosexual lobby
      AKA, by ruffians, “the back passage”.

    2. “The Hundred” is not cricket. I despise the people who came up with this abomination and hope it is a massive commercial failure.

      Seriously, what is wrong with the 20/20 format for people with no attention span ? Did someone sit down and muse ” I know what’s wrong with the 20/20 format. It’s just 3.2 overs too long…..”

    4. Am I very naive? It had never occurred to me that wickets had anything to do with LBGT?
      Of course, I do realise that every single thing in the world has to do with LBGT….

      1. The Society of Mary (Marists), commonly known as simply the Marist Fathers, is an international Roman Catholic religious congregation, founded by Father Jean-Claude Colin and a group of other seminarians in Lyon, France, in 1816.

      2. 331428+ up ticks,
        Evening Anne,
        If papist is foreign terminology for PIE I make you right.

      3. …and is male. See Aeneas below (I narrowly avoided a bout of nonunderreadery there.)

    4. I’m very sorry to read your news.
      I hope she didn’t suffer.
      She was a lovely looking dog.

    5. Oh Plum. I am so sorry to hear this – my heart goes out to you. Our dogs reside in those places in our souls that are barred to humans. Our family’s condolences to you.

    6. Oh no! She was such a sweetie – at least she and you had the chance to love each other as you both did.

      So sorry, love.

    7. Bless you Plum. I am so sorry you have lost your wonderful friend. I am thinking of you in your sorrow, and Maud had the very best life.
      Love to you.

    19. Oh – poor little sweetie!

      I hope she didn’t suffer………….but it’s a shock for you and you will miss her terribly.

    20. OMG, Plum. That is such sad news. The shock must have been awful. Thoughts with you. x

    21. Oh no Plum, I’m so sorry to hear that. What a dear little thing she was!

      You mentioned her often, I feel as though she was a member of NOTTL too 🙁

    27. Sending you a virtual hug Plum .

      What a terrible shock for you , you must have been beside yourself with panic and worry .

      You shared so many photos of her with us here on Nottl over the years , poor little Maud .

      We are all thinking of you . The days ahead will be very difficult for you , just try to focus on nice memories and relax . xx

    28. Oh, Plum, how awful. My sincere condolences. She will leave a big hole in your life.

  69. Turned out nice, once the snow melted. Spent an hour cleaning the shears and then potting on the trombetti.

  70. All comments to be suitable for reading in a family newspaper.
    Headline in the DT:

    Police step up patrols as freedom slowly returns after long lockdown

    “Hallo, hallo, hallo. Wot have we here? You’re not enjoying yourself, are you Sir?”

      1. “Ye can always chuck yer grannie in the van
        In the van
        Ye can always chuck yer grannie in the van
        In the van
        Ye can always chuck yer grannie
        ‘Cos she’s not a strapping mannie
        Ye can always chuck yer grannie in the van.

        1. Reminds me of the charming MSP who spoke so well today in the pretendy “Parliament”

  71. Just realised another infuriating aspect of the plague.

    We bought a car in June 2020. We have done 2,500 miles – just. The MOT is due in June. Just booked it.

    In yer France, the period between MOTs is two years. The EUSSR directive allows for countries to choose. The UK, naturally, chose one year gaps. Why make life easy when you needn’t?

    Grrr.

    1. You’ll probably have to buy new number plates. Certainly by 01/09/2021 there are new rules and legislation.

      1. Why? It is a UK registered car. The dear old Frog Kangoo – with 150,000 miles on the clock – was sold last June. To – it turned out – a garage owned by a Mr Rashid (I kid you not!!)

          1. Couldn’t make head nor tail of that! Life’s too short……!

            Looks like some enterprising Mr Rashid looking for trade…

    2. Ha! There are about 23,500 MoT test stations throughout the UK, but only around 6000 dans la belle France. Competition means that some garage in your area will probably offer you a test at a discount. The great advantage of the MoT test is that any actual or potential fault will be itemised on a piece of paper by a qualified and experienced mechanic; it’s a bargain and it keeps many dodgy motors off the late Duke of Edinburgh’s wife’s highway.

      1. Ha! You must be joking.

        Having experienced MoT’s and CT’s in England and France I prefer the French system every time.

        As far as I’m aware the CT stations are totally independent of garages so they have no interest in their customers passing or failing. That tends to mean fewer “wrecks on the roads” having been passed by a dodgy garage. Neither system is perfect, but the French seems to me to have less chance of favouritism.

        1. The Spanish (unless it has been changed) have test centres that are state controlled. Back in the 1990s it was apparently possible in rural areas to briefly hire a set of tyres to get through the ITV.

      1. Golden rule of table manners: “Never break your bread or roll in your soup.”

        (That made me laugh when I was five – and still does.)

  75. That’s me for the day. We are going to put on our coats and mufflers and have a drink outside in the evening sunshine.

    A demain.

  76. Now colour me confused but I thought the whole point of a university was “elitism”

    “Marking down students for spelling mistakes is ‘elitist’, says university

    Lecturers at Hull University told to overlook grammatical blunders as

    part of inclusive marking policy that aims to ‘decolonise curriculum’”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/11/marking-students-spelling-mistakes-elitist-says-university/?utm_content=telegraph&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1618157048
    Grizz wos rite…………

    2. Academics at third rate universities are just people who were too stupid to leave school!
      Nice to see them flying the flag for mediocrity.

    3. 25 years ago, the then producer of the JY prog sent me an illiterate, ill-spelled e-mail.

      I pointed out his many errors – and he replied, “Yeah but – you knew what I meant, didn’t you?”

      It’ll be his grand children who are the “beneficiaries” of this new (and very welcome (sarc)…) policy.

    4. I had and retain what many would consider beautiful handwriting. It did not come naturally and I made a conscious effort to improve my scrawl after having a ruler smacked on the back of my legs by a Welsh schoolmaster in Junior School.

      When I came ‘Top of the Form’ in the Technical School the swots would remark that it was a result of my handwriting. This was throughout the sixties. Nothing much has changed.

      Quite frankly, if an examiner, I would appreciate legibility and craftsmanship in marking a paper and would probably be well disposed to the examined.

      After an international school handwriting competition I was matched with a pupil in Fort Worth Texas. We corresponded as ‘Pen Friends’ for years. His name is Drew Allen and I believe he is an executive at Coca Cola but we lost contact after I went to University, which I regret.

        1. My eldest brother Miles has the same Copperplate with a flourish.

          He helped me to develop my own script which eventually became adapted to my architectural work which added a component or more.

          When I was awarded the Draughtsmanship Prize at the University of Sheffield in 1973 another student remarked that it was easy for me because of my lines and script. I responded by saying that it was bloody difficult to work out a way to form both lower and upper case letters with a Rotring pen and that I had practiced a lot in order to arrive at a solution.

      2. My family moved home frequently, because my father was often posted to new territories or countries.
        I went through numerous different schools, each of which had a favoured way of handwriting, from italic to copperplate to left slant, to right slant, to upright. Every time I changed school my writing got worse.
        I now have handwriting a doctor would be ashamed of and even a pharmacist or Egyptologist would struggle to read.

          1. I agree, but there are still times when I feel it’s necessary to inflict my writing; thank you letters, and birthday cards and the like.

          2. I find a proper fountain pen helps, if you can avoid smudging, as it forces me to slow down and move the wrist to form the letters. The result is much prettier than the usual biro.

      3. When in Primary School, in the (very) early 1950’s, I knew that every Thursday afternoon, that I would get the ‘Slipper’ from Mr Herbert, the hand writing teacher.

        At that time, most of the ‘Sirs’ had just come back (into teaching) from The War

        We did not argue wtth tham

        My handwriting is still bad (like my tiepin)… my brain works faster than my hand

      1. If Grizz had his way, language would never change.

        If he stopped to think, he would realise that we don’t use the same words and spelling as the writers of Beowulf or that of Chaucer.

        Language evolves, we need to accept the fact.

        Even Shakespeare invented new works and changed nouns into verbs.

          3. I had tickets to the stage show and was in Londonia outside the theatre when the lockdown announcement was made.
            There was a very strange mood in the capital that night. Hundreds of people milling around aimlessly and wondering what to do. I just went back to the Victory Services Club where I was staying and had a couple of G&Ts with some crusty old colonels.

        2. There’s a difference between words evolving and ignorance of the present rules, e.g. of spelling.

          1. Please give me any spelling rule that doesn’t have any exceptions or even, for that matter, any grammatical one.

          6. To answer your question, there is usually a comma before the final possessive (e.g, Elsie’s rhubarb crumble, Sosraboc’s desire to read any spelling/grammatical rule which doesn’t have an exception). I say “usually” because one does not use an apostrophe in order to denote a possessive to the word “it”. One writes “the dog ate its supper” and not “the dog ate it’s supper”, and the reason for this is that in the case of “it” the phrase “it’s” is used instead to denote an abbreviation of “it is” as in “It’s likely to snow tomorrow”. People who do not understand this simple rule and its exception show their ignorance, Sos, and it’s not good enough to excuse their ignorance by saying “but language evolves”. Understood?

          7. To reply to your post from a few days back, Elsie, which has been locked for replies, gerund taking the possessive is in relation to the pronoun, not the verb. so where you suggested, I think, “..my collecting’s stamps…” ‘My’ is the possessive and ‘Collecting’ is the gerund, so the phrase is “She though my collecting stamps was rather quaint.” as opposed to “She though me collecting stamps was rather quaint.”

            I really was complimenting the correct grammar that you used – it wasn’t wrong in the first place.

          8. To reply to your post from a few days back, Elsie, which has been locked for replies, gerund taking the possessive is in relation to the pronoun, not the verb. so where you suggested, I think, “..my collecting’s stamps…” ‘My’ is the possessive and ‘Collecting’ is the gerund, so the phrase is “She though my collecting stamps was rather quaint.” as opposed to “She though me collecting stamps was rather quaint.”

            I really was complimenting the correct grammar that you used – it wasn’t wrong in the first place.

          9. Your possessive “its” example rather proves my point.

            It’s an exception to a general rule re possessives.

            };-O

        4. I greatly admire the handwriting of literate folk in previous centuries both in England and particularly in Italy. All legible and with the elusive quality of ‘flowing’ without interruption or mistakes requiring correction. The monks in the monasteries mastered the Art perfectly.

          Edit: I may have invented a word of my own ‘splothered’ to describe the application of paint to perfectly good facing brickwork. I checked and cannot find it in my Chambers Dictionary.

          1. Judging by the few examples that are attributed, I doubt Shakespeare would get close to your ideals!

            };-)

          3. Not been to France, then?

            NO ONE’s signature bears any relationship to their name.

          5. Mine is completely legible.

            I was informed by a fraud investigator that a legible signature is the most difficult to forge.
            I can never get even close to my real signature when signing those wretched electronic gizmos to accept a parcel delivery.
            {:-((

          7. Mine is legible if you already know what my name is… if you know what I mean.
            It could probably be worked out without too much trouble also if you don’t know my name.

          8. I don’t bother trying. I just write an ‘X’. It seems to satisfy them, although how it would stand up in court if someone else did this on a delivery for me and then stole it a parcel I don’t know. Could they insist it was me that signed?

            All seems a bit itchy beard to me.

          9. Try being required to countersigning 200 pieces of paper every Monday morning and I guarantee your signature will be reduced to the first and last letters of your surname!

          11. Reminds me of signing a book of traveller’s cheques (remember those?).

    6. When trying to help my kids with homework I was told off all the time when mentioning misspellings. Their marked work and homework would have some comment at the bottom, but never a mention of poor spelling. Drove me bonkers.

    7. What next – allowing BAME medical students to cut off the wrong leg without censure?

    8. Here’s one for you:
      Why is it wonderful to be an elite footballer or tennis-player and earn squillions of pounds (other currencies are available), but not an elite brain-worker?

    9. The rot started in the seventies when I did my PGCE; I was told not to mark spelling mistakes as it “inhibited their creativity”. My view was there was no point in their being creative if you couldn’t understand the gibberish. Then it even struck modern languages. We were told, when marking GCSEs to ignore spelling mistakes “as long as it’s understandable”. I did wonder whether some of the things that were supposed to be okay would actually be understandable to a French person. Oh source, jamais esprit.

      1. GCSE was the end of my teaching in schools.

        I wanted my pupils to get the very best grades possible but I was expected to assess their work for their GCSE grades.

        This produced a complete conflict of interest. How could I be objective for the examiners and get the best possible grades for my pupils?

    10. Now that the politicians have decided that social engineering is more important than academic excellence we are lost.

    11. About the only place where elitism isn’t allowed is in acadaemia.
      There are elite schools for talented sports women and sports men, elite academies for promising musicians, etc. why shouldn’t the cream be allowed to be skimmed off the top?

          2. All I know is that Sainsbury’s minced beef has gristle in it whereas Tesco’s equivalent does not.

            I now buy everything meat-wise pop fprom a local butcher.

    3. I supported my local this evening. Lovely to see and speak to lots of the regulars. I stayed for as long as I could, even with lots of extra clothing it was freezing.

    6. As I read newest first, I don’t know what’s happened, but I wish you all the best, Plum.

        1. Thank you, Elsie. I have just got to the announcement and sent my condolences. It’s awful to lose a pet (my hound is over 17 and I’m daily expecting no longer to have him). They gain such a hold over your feelings.

          1. I heard from our vet today that my cat most likely has cancer but will require further tests to confirm this.

          4. We had the same news many years ago about one of our cats. She did not seem to be suffering so we just delayed and delayed helping her reach a timely end. Her last night was very uncomfortable for her, we had left into late to be compassionate.

            Our old cat lasted several years after the diagnosis,hopefully you will have the foresight and wisdom that we lacked when not doing what was best for the old Moggie when the unavoidable moment came.

          5. Painful for all. If the diagnosis is what you fear you know what you have to do.

            So sorry.

    8. So sorry to hear that Plum. Losing a pet is like losing a part of the family. Those who don’t have pets may scorn but unless you own one you really don’t appreciate how closely you come to love them.

      My sympathies are with you but just think, Phil the Greek has now got a good pal to look out for wherever they are 🙂

      1. Given nothing’s really happened for a year,issy – how did it go so quickly?

    10. Dear Plum.

      I am so sorry to read of Maud’s sudden death,
      you must be devastated. xxx

  80. Evening, all. Non-essential shops are open – yay! I have spent more money in town today than I have for the last three months! Shows where my priorities lie 🙂 I tried to access my GP to find out if I could have a repeat prescription of a drug I’ve had before, albeit not for about eighteen months. Despite their constantly telling me my call was important to them, it clearly wasn’t important enough for them to answer the damned phone. In the end, I went into town to buy an over-the-counter version of what I needed because paracetamol on its own was coming nowhere near touching the pain. It’s helped, but I really need the stronger version. On the plus side, it does send me to sleep, so I had a nap this afternoon, which is unlike me.

  81. DT Article by Henry Hill

    Northern Ireland is paying the price for Theresa May’s negotiating blunders
    Unionists’ anger at the disastrous NI Protocol is entirely understandable

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/12/northern-ireland-paying-price-theresa-mays-negotiating-blunders/

    A BTL Comment with which agree:

    To quote Mrs May:

    “No deal is better than a bad deal”

    The tragedy is that she didn’t believe it, and the greater tragedy is that Johnson and Gove did not believe it either and betrayed both Northern Ireland and the fisherman to get the shabbiest of bad deals.

    1. 331428+ up ticks,
      Evening R,
      Party first ruled the roost, now ALL decent people’s pay.

        1. Urgh! I remember those… The crashing blood sugar level and feeling hung over even without yhe boozy bit first. Sympathy…

  83. accepting it’s a tad early [timezone difference again], but morning to those up at unearthly hours. Pole sana to StormInaDcup – night shift duties

    1. A couple of inches in my garden! Fortunately I remembered to cover the car windscreen last night.

      1. mng, Google servers running Kenya weather predict thunderstorms [as they have done for the last 3 weeks]. Reality = Dry as a bone, sun’s up

  87. might grab attention to those arriving later https://www.dailywire.com/news/blm-co-founder-buys-1-4-million-home-in-virtually-all-white-area-black-commentators-slam-her “Take a Knee” better still “Donate and pay to Take a Knee”

    Patrisse Khan-Cullors, 37, also eyed property in the Bahamas at an ultra-exclusive resort where Justin Timberlake and Tiger Woods both have homes, The Post has learned. Luxury apartments and townhouses at the beachfront Albany resort outside Nassau are priced between $5 million and $20 million, according to a local agent.

    The self-described Marxist last month purchased a $1.4 million home on a secluded road a short drive from Malibu in Los Angeles, according to a report. The 2,370-square-foot property features “soaring ceilings, skylights and plenty of windows” with canyon views. The Topanga Canyon homestead, which includes two houses on a quarter-acre, is just one of three homes Khan-Cullors owns in the Los Angeles area, public records show.

    Some fellow activists were taken aback by the real estate revelations.
    Hawk Newsome, the head of Black Lives Matter Greater New York City, called for “an independent investigation” to find out how the global network spends its money

    1. Gotta be rich to be a socialist/marxist. Yer average poor person can’t afford it.

        1. Morning, AWK.
          No rains yet? When do they normally start? Where I lived in Nigeria, it would normally be early to mid-April or so.

          1. was supposed to end of first week of April, nothing substantial, 2 overnight short showers this month and that’s it. So far

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