Friday 14 May: Online screening will never be a substitute for a face-to-face meeting with a GP

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  2. Greensill lobbying leaves your reputation in tatters, Cameron told. 14 May 2021.

    David Cameron was on Thursday told that his persistent lobbying of ministers, begging for favours on behalf of the controversial bank he worked for, had “demeaned” the position of the prime minister and left his “reputation in tatters”.

    Cameron, who joined Greensill as an adviser and lobbyist exactly two years after he left No 10, repeatedly refused to tell MPs how much money he stood to make from the bank before it collapsed last year.

    Morning everyone. Which reputation was that? The one as War Criminal or Serial Liar?

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/may/13/greensill-lobbying-leaves-reputation-tatters-david-cameron

      1. mng bob, v true. Luckily he never built a reputation to lose. A hustler in a cheap suit is a hustler in a cheap suit

        1. He was jolly good at pointing at fish, as I recall. I think he must have an ‘ology’ in some branch of piscine studies.

          (Good morning BTW)

          4. The BBC isn’t looking for information to present the truth though. It’s looking to attack the government.

          6. Talking of fish his fellow Old Etonian and Bullingdon Club member has made a right cock up with his EU deal.

            After Johnson’s capitulation and betrayal of the British fishermen I think that Barnier must have sent Johnson a copy of Douglas Adams’s Hitchhikers’ Guide:

            So long, and thank you for All the Fish!

          8. 332746+ up ticks,
            Morning DM,
            He excelled at animal husbandry, see his approach to a pig’s head on a platter.

          15. That nonsense was a lose lose on both sides.

            If he denied it, no one who wanted to believe it would believe him.
            If he didn’t, he was forced to put up with the slur.

            It was dirty. Much can be said about what he did in office – bunking off, scamming over the referendum, the weathervane politics. When we reach personal attacks it’s rather ‘they’ve no arguments left.’

      2. He staked everything on a roll of the dice (referendum) and lost. I have no sympathy for him.

        1. 332746+ up ticks,
          Morning A,
          I truly believe he was the first stage in the semi reentry missile.
          They would not be caught if the referendum went unbelievably against them.
          The mayday was the intermediate with the 9 month delay, then johnson limited damage controller semi reentry pilot.

      3. Morning Bob,
        Losing the referendum was not a problem for him, running away afterwards instead of carrying out the result as he promised done it for him.
        Imagine if he said, I campaigned to stay but will now work to fully implement the result and deliver a true and meaningful Brexit, what standing he could have gained. Of course it was never going to happen, the man has no integrity or honesty, he needs to crawl into a hole and hide away.

        1. Cameron was on a hiding to nothing, having lost.

          If he had stayed on and achieved a successful Brexit he and his fellow remainers would have been exposed as serial liars during the Referendum run up.

          His only chance was to resign and join forces with the wreckers, to prove Brexit was a disaster. Getting May as his successor was the first step.

    2. If the government had paid its bills on time, rather than sending the money overseas or bunging £billions to its pet @selickers, then this situation would never have arisen.
      I never realised factoring was such a nice little earner.

    3. What reputation? He has never had any honesty or integrity at all.

      The Conservative Party committed moral and rational suicide when it chose this Old Etonian yob rather than David Davis to be its leader.

    4. Where was the guardian’s analysis of Mandelson’s sitting on the board of Goldman sachs when he was also a commissar responsible for bringing Greece into the EU?

      A nation that clearly, obviously failed every single requirement yet magically… the contract went directly to…. drum roll… Goldman Sachs and, astonishingly! passed all those checks! Truly, an amazing situation.

      Where then did Mandelson get the £8 million to buy a town house in London from on a commissars salary immediately afterward?

    1. Doesn’t look a bit like Pierce Brosnan. (A joke for Richard Attenborough films.)

      EDIT: I meant to write “A joke for Richard Attenborough film fans“.

  6. Blasphemy must be an issue in the Batley by-election. Spiked 14 May 2021.

    In a liberal democracy, schoolteachers must be free to teach children about contentious issues. That includes showing caricatures and images that some find offensive. A core function of education is preparing children for the real world, not protecting them from it. Education policy cannot be surrendered to any mob that can get enough people together at the school gates. If education can be influenced like this, what is the point of holding by-elections, or of political parties developing policies, if we simply go along with whoever shouts the loudest?

    Well Batley Man is not even going to mentioned let alone become an issue! This is because all the parties are united in the firm belief that Cowardice is Good. They have essentially surrendered to Islam. This teacher has exposed the falseness of their protestations set out in the paragraph above. He was not acting for himself but implementing the policies of the State. His reward is to be sacked (eventually) and drummed out of education. They will probably have to find him a job in New Zealand or Australia, since his murder (likely) in the UK, would only cause further embarrassment!

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/05/13/blasphemy-must-be-an-issue-in-the-batley-by-election/

    2. 332746+ up ticks,
      Morning AS,
      The coalition, the like granddad family tree support & vote voter, vote, whinge,
      blame the genuine sheep.

    3. Errrm, if the author hasn’t noticed, politicians just follow the loudest voice for appeasement.

      The idea of a consistent policy with a core intent that is clearly explained is anathema to politicians who want to be popular and statists who don’t want to do anything.

  8. mng all, or those that made it early so far. Valerie Dagger and Dave Merry enjoying the short straw of the posting topic. Ian Morris had “his honour” bruised: Dr Ramon Gardner’s about to get fired:

    SIR – During my 48 years as a doctor, mostly as a GP, never a week went by when I did not reflect on whether there was a better way of doing things than seeing patients face-to-face (“GPs told to screen patients online first”, report, May 13). There was not.

    Hard work though it is, there is no substitute for the efficiency of this method, which allows doctors to see, examine, and pick up cues. I imagine that the decision to add another layer to the process was recommended by people who have never seen a patient. The tragedy is that the medical profession has become so weak that it is told how it should work by NHS England and does so.

    Dr Charles Rees FRCGP
    Christchurch, Dorset

    SIR – How sad it is to see GPs discouraged from seeing and examining patients.

    It is so easy to miss important problems when the doctor does not meet, talk to and examine the patient. “If you don’t put you finger in it you may put your foot in it” was true when I was training and is true now.

    John Dixon
    Bristol

    SIR – Reading about the policy of discouraging face-to-face appointments alongside recent letters on this page made me wonder if the older generation is being written off.

    I am 85. How many people my age are computer-literate enough to adapt?

    Desmond Mulvany
    Shepperton, Middlesex

    SIR – I am content with online triage but it should be carried out by a qualified medical practitioner, rather than by a receptionist or through a form-filling procedure.

    His Honour Ian Morris
    Sunbury-on-Thames, Surrey

    SIR – Allison Pearson’s article (Features, May 12) rang a discordant bell with me. 
I recently visited my hospital neurologist because of excruciating pain due to MS. She suggested I try a particular drug and wrote to my GP with her request.

    The surgery and I both received her letter a week later but after I emailed the clinic to ensure matters were expedited, and delivered a copy of the letter, as advised by my pharmacist, I was eventually given a telephone appointment a month later to “discuss my query”. This would be with a doctor unknown to me, who will likely simply agree to the request as soon as we talk. I have therefore been left in debilitating pain for another month because of heartless, potentially dangerous medical management.

    Claude Heath
    London NW6

    SIR – Allison Pearson’s recent articles about GPs made me wild with anger.

    The doctors in the large practice of which I have some inside knowledge have been seeing patients throughout the pandemic, starting their days in the surgery at seven in the morning and continuing until after – sometimes long after – seven at night. They have been struggling to meet the Government’s requirement that footfall be reduced. This hybrid system has made their job harder, not easier.

    Pauline Isaac
    Coleshill, Warwickshire

    SIR – As I needed a blood test to renew a prescription, I rang my surgery yesterday morning, at the start of the quoted time period, 8 am, listened to the options, pressed the appropriate button and was immediately answered by the receptionist. By 8.03 am I had an appointment for Monday next, the only delay being waiting for the receptionist’s computer to wake up.

    Owen Hay
    Colchester, Essex

    SIR – At nearly 90, my method was to write a letter and push it through the box at the entrance of the surgery.

    My doctor phoned the next day and sent out medication straight away. Not ideal, but better than nothing.

    Christine Whild
    Abingdon, Oxfordshire

    Phishing awareness

    SIR – West Midlands Trains’ test exercise of sending its employees a phishing email (report, May 11) should be practised by more companies.

    This past year has seen an explosion of scams, many of which work by enticing recipients to click on links. Employees might be upset about not receiving an actual bonus, as offered in the phishing email, but they would have been far more upset if they’d had their identities stolen, malware put on their devices or had actually lost money.

    Hannah Hunt
    Woodhall Spa, Lincolnshire

    The dead condemned

    SIR – Most people commemorated in churches and churchyards paid for their memorials (Letters, May 13), and indeed paid more according to the prominence and size. They also paid on the understanding that they would be, as far as possible, permanent.

    If the Church of England is going to move or remove such monuments, it will presumably be returning the money it received to the heirs or descendants of those commemorated, based on the equivalent amount in today’s money. Failure to do so means the Church has obtained and retained money under false pretences.

    It is acknowledged that you can’t libel the dead, but it is doubtful that those who framed this legal state of affairs had ever considered that church monuments might be defaced to label and condemn the commemorated without any means of recourse.

    The woke archbishops, bishops, clergy and lay members have no right to renege on burial and memorial agreements entered into in good faith.

    Ewan Wauchope
    London SE1

    BBC v Government

    SIR – This week the BBC has stopped reporting daily vaccination totals – 
the most successful part of the Government’s Covid strategy. I may 
be cynical, but is it in the BBC’s charter to play down government successes?

    Geoff Bennett
    Burnham-on-Sea, Somerset

    Imperial needles

    SIR – In the gentle slide back to imperial measures, please may we have the former knitting-needle sizes?

    Reading 1/4 or 3/4 on the head of such a pin requires the aid of several angels.

    Marilyn Norman
    Torquay, Devon

    Covid inquiry folly

    SIR – The Government’s Covid inquiry (report, May 13) is a waste of public money.

    It will be conducted by a member of the establishment, who will produce a report consisting of hundreds of pages that no member of the public will ever read. The sheer size of the report will produce scathing criticisms of the Government, and commentary will be underpinned by the benefit of 20:20 hindsight – which the Government did not have when the pandemic hit.

    A government is elected to govern. This means taking on whatever challenges occur during a fixed period of time, until the next election. There is one place where examinations of the Government’s performance should occur: the ballot box. The era of endless inquiries must come to an end.

    Louis Altman
    London SW17

    SIR – A public inquiry is to be welcomed as long as its remit is not confined to government decisions.

    Much was wrong with the running of the NHS. It was headed by Sir Simon Stevens, a manager who, however talented, was not medically qualified. His training did not equip him to take heed of the Sars epidemic and, with 
the Secretary of State, prepare the UK for the coronavirus pandemic. Both guessed wrong and, as a result, any government of the day would have given a slow response.

    Parliament must decide if our health system should be led by a person who is not medically qualified. Stricter accountability is needed. Waiting lists and treatments are simple problems for practitioners, who need sufficient staff, adequately trained, with up-to-date equipment and premises.

    They do not require cost-cutting by managers who are currently deemed necessary for every clinical service.

    Dr Ramon Gardner
    Emeritus Consultant Psychiatrist, Addenbrooke’s Hospital
    Cambridge

    Capturing Linda

    SIR – In her critique of The Pursuit of Love (Arts, May 10), Anita Singh says that Lily James, who plays Linda Radlett, falls flat. How wrong she is.

    Linda one of the most enduring and enchanting heroines in literature, and Ms James captures her perfectly with probably her best performance to date. I hope there is a new adaptation of the sequel, Love in a Cold Climate, and we see more of this talented and beautiful actress.

    Wendy May
    Hereford

    Finding garlic with a smaller carbon footprint

    SIR – No need to suffer Chinese garlic (Letters, May 8). Waitrose sells an excellent Spanish variety.

    Valerie Dagger
    Shipbourne, Kent

    SIR – The garlic in our local shop comes from the Isle of Wight. It’s wonderful, I suggest people try it.

    Dave Merry
    Burley, Hampshire

    SIR – You can find wild garlic in abundance, particularly at this time of year, if you care to go for a walk in your nearest woodland.

    Every bit of the plant is edible. 
You can make pesto from the leaves, and the buds can be pickled to extend their life. Even the flowers look fabulous in salads.

    Jane Sidders
    York
    Don’t burden the young with paying for care

    SIR – It is not unfair if those with the means to pay for their social care are required to do so, leaving the state to cover the care costs of the poorest in society (Letters, May 5).

    The Conservatives must avoid a situation where millions of struggling young people are required to bail out the asset-rich elderly. Proposals such as those made by Sir Andrew Dilnot (report, May 12) would increase the demand for care, cause the cost to increase as supply failed to meet that demand, and place the tax burden on the working population, widening the wealth divide between young and old.

    Philip Duly
    Haslemere, Surrey

    SIR – When considering the future of adult social care in England, the Government should consult those best placed to inform the debate: the service users, as well as paid and “unpaid” or informal carers, like myself, who do the job.

    It is known that the vulnerable and elderly are better off living in their own homes, not in institutional care. Supporting service users to live at home saves taxpayers’ money and avoids the sale of family homes to fund residential care. Better support and funding for those on Carer’s Allowance, decoupling it from Attendance Allowance, and providing remote Telecare and meals on wheels, free of charge to the most vulnerable, would be a start.

    Reducing council tax in households where a family member looks after a vulnerable person, would also make the task of caring for the elderly at home much less onerous financially.

    A Royal Commission on long-term social care could be made up of politicians from all parties, such as Angela Rayner (Lab) and Sir Ed Davey (Lib Dem), both of whom have hands-on experience. This is not a political matter; this is about the lives of the elderly, the disabled and vulnerable, and their carers. The latter often struggle to manage meagre resources and limited funds, with little or no help from the authorities.

    Anthony Rodriguez
    Staines, Middlesex

    1. Widening the wealth gap between young and old? It’s already gaping. The problem is simple: the money has already been spent. Well, wasted. Not just once, but multiple times – many multiples of times.

      I imagine this person is also one squealing that nurses and teachers get a pay rise – not aware that this money gets spent on administration and jobsworths.

      Then we have the gap between the worker and the shirker, between income bands. The very high earners move their money away from the tax man and the poor get hit with passed on stealth taxes the state intended to hit businesses with – but as statists don’t understand tax, they aren’t aware that all taxes are paid by the customer.

      If we want people to prepare for their retirement and to fund it themselves then the state has got to stop robbing people of their savings through inflation, through taxing pension companies and through second home taxes, capital gains taxes and high income taxes. All a desperate effort to hammer the saver and investor to force them to spend to boost demand. It does not work.

      Much of the resolution to this is obvious. It’s just politically unpalatable because there are no headlines in doing less, and angry vocal, spiteful voices who want their own way, mainly because the consequences of their actions never affect them.

    2. Clearly Senor Rodriguez doesn’t know that if a person is declared to have a serious mental impairment, you can get a reduction in council tax. It would, however, be of benefit to carers if they were exempt whether or not they were married to the person they care for. If you’re married, you get nothing.

    3. I don’t need to go for a walk in the woods to access wild garlic; I’ve got the stuff growing in my garden and it is proving extremely difficult to get rid of it.

  9. Is the common cold, which is rarely deadly but leaves most folk feeling miserable for a week, a variant of coronavirus, and therefore a notifiable disease?

        1. I’ve got a shoulder of lamb in the freezer. In the wrong hands, it is a murder weapon and therefore deadly.

          Should I have a licence for it?

          4. Watch out, Her Bill and Sparkie! An angry female is a sight to behold.

          6. I know it featured in a memorable episode of the Alfred Hitchcock TV series, but had no idea that Roald Dahl wrote the original story.

    2. Truly a work of fiction, as if a luxury like pickle would be allowed in those times. 🐛🐌

  12. Listening to the radio news in the car yesterday things were looking up for holidaymakers going to Portugal, they are going to need bigger planes they said.
    I think this was a big mistake, Carrie must have heard that and got straight onto SAGE.
    Today Portugal is going into another lockdown by the look of it.

      1. The Cup Final should be held in the UK and Turkey given some compensation which shouldn’t be too big a strain on the FA’s purse.

        1. they haven’t cancelled the F1 in Turkey given it replaced I think Canada on the list. European Cup money’s down to UEFA. English FA still trying to figure out tomorrow’s FA Cup final

          1. I know about UEFA having control of the situation but common sense , in these strange times, is that England should host this year’s UEFA cup and see what UEFA does about it. What would France do if 2 French teams in the final?

          2. FA and Common Sense? French would go to the highest TV rights bidder. Best thing for European Cup final is neither set of fans go, despite offers from both clubs to help

  13. RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: D-Day is cancelled… everybody back on the landing craft! The Normandy invasion under modern elf’n’safety restrictions

    il.co.uk/debate/article-9576871/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-D-Day-cancelled-everybody-landing-craft.html

  14. Good morning, all. Grey and windy – and the weather is much the same.

    Time Covid,like an ever-rolling stream,
    Bears all its sons away;
    They fly forgotten, as a dream
    Dies at the opening day.

    1. Oh what a beautiful morning,
      Oh what a beautiful day,
      I’ve got a wonderful feeling,
      More Covid is coming our way.

  16. Suspected Russia-led cyber campaign targets Germany’s Green party leader. 14 May 2021.

    Fears are growing in Berlin of a Russian-led cyber campaign against the leader of Germany’s Green party after she pledged to block a gas pipeline project between Russia and Europe.

    Annalena Baerbock, who is running to succeed Angela Merkel as chancellor in September’s election, has been targeted in recent days by an increasingly vicious campaign across social media.

    We just saw this same process a fortnight ago with Dominic Raab about Ukraine. People write in rubbishing their Governments policies and they become Russians! It’s just another symptom of the ever widening credibility gap between rulers and ruled. Domestic propaganda is no longer sufficient to bridge it, another cause must be found to explain this strange anomaly!

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/13/suspected-russia-led-cyber-campaign-targets-germanys-green-party-leader

    2. Once our lekky supply is all Green, these attacks will stop unless the hamsters pedal very, very fast.
      If they don’t, we’ll know it’s the Russians because they’re not daft enough to tolerate this nonsense.

      1. Last week Sky Business News interviewed the head of Eon, who cheerfully pointed out that if Britain goes “all electric” we need three times the

        number of power stations that we have at the moment.

        He stated that he felt that was unlikely to happen by 2030.

        1. Ah, no, you’re thinking about it as if we keep using the same amount of energy as we currently are.

          The intent of the state is to force down energy use by ever higher taxes. People use less fuel, have less freedom, fewer choices and you control the populace. Of course, as we saw with Brown’s offensive hikes on petrol and diesel, the economy also nose-dives as people don’t go out, but hey. Politicians are dumb, gormless, stupid, navel gazing morons.

      2. Last week Sky Business News interviewed the head of Eon, who cheerfully pointed out that if Britain goes “all electric” we need three times the

        number of power stations that we have at the moment.

        He stated that he felt that was unlikely to happen by 2030.

      3. Last week Sky Business News interviewed the head of Eon, who cheerfully pointed out that if Britain goes “all electric” we need three times the

        number of power stations that we have at the moment.

        He stated that he felt that was unlikely to happen by 2030.

    1. Morning Anne. Has one of these “reforms” ever achieved any thing or done any good?

    2. Looks interesting, Annie. (Good morning, btw.) I’ve just skimmed it but intend to have a good careful reading of it later; at present the garden calls. Byee!!!

    3. BTL:

      The Norman barons were willing to risk a rupture with Rome, and thereby with Europe, by asserting the rights of the English Church in Magna Carta. This resulted in a ban on the sacraments not seen again until COVID19.

  18. Prince Harry appears to criticise way he was raised by his father. 14 may 2021.

    Harry also told how he started therapy after a conversation with his wife, Meghan, who “saw it straight away”.

    “She could tell that I was hurting and that some of the stuff that was out of my control would make me really angry, it would make my blood boil.”

    He said therapy had helped him “pluck his head out of the sand” and made him realise he needed to use his privileged position to help others.

    Oh God! Therapy?

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/13/prince-harry-royal-family-like-being-in-the-truman-show

    1. Obvious really. As a white privileged male he should feel shame and be full of remorse. As a start he could open up his Monteceto mansion to the poor and homeless. I’m sure Meagain would approve.

      She could boil her head for the soup.

      Good morning.

      1. Good morning, Phizee. Well, it certainly looks like all the couple’s recent words and actions are only magnifying the level of bitterness all of us feel for them.

    2. You Minty

      I think ‘arry ‘ad a Major problem with his father…….
      Edit
      Does he really know Hewitt was?

      1. I predict young Archie may have problems to come. A picture I saw of him just now already makes him the likeness of his maternal grandfather.

    3. What sort of therapy? Retail therapy? Mansion therapy? Facelift therapy? Dental therapy? All essential to the health of Americans That Matter. Nobody else counts there.

    4. She is destroying him. I think ‘evil’ is an appropriate word on this occasion.

      1. Not sure. A narcissist is unable to accept their own shortcomings. They are unable to look at another view and think themselves blameless.

        She very clearly is such a type and is an object of pity. Sadly, she is surrounded by other narcissists and exploiters and they are using each other.

      1. He’s not too bright Ndovu, unfortunately he also seems to be emotionally stupid!

        1. White Van Man who mistakenly thought he was Mondeo Man. He’ll figure it out when it’s too late. Give MSM something to speculate about

    6. “Pluck his head out of the sand”? What about he ar*e? What a nasty, conniving and wicked woman Megain is!

    9. That’d be gaslighting through deflection. Don’t take responsibility for your actions, blame someone else for them.

      His privileged position is one of duty and service to others and nation. Not to his own whim. That’s why it is privileged. It’s called sacrifice, megan, you dumb bint.

        1. I don’t have the interest to really espouse my frustrations. She’s just not worth the effort.

  19. Good morning, NoTTLers. Today is meant to be dry all day, with non-stop rain forecast for the entire weekend. So I shall be out in the garden in three 2-hour sessions of work in my fruit border, stripping out unwanted “invasive bushes” and replacing them with a collection of dahlias now that the frosts have ended. So enjoy your day. I will return at the end of the day to see what you have all been up to. Have a great day!

    1. Good morning, Elsie. Far be it that I be the harbinger of doom, but there is no guarantee that this is the end of the frosts…. ‘ne’er cast a clout ’til May be about.’

      1. ‘Morning, Mum, I’ve yet to figure out which ‘May’ is being identified in that quote. May flower, Mayfly, the whole month, or even Teresa May! The latter has been ‘out’ for quite a while now.

        1. And if it is the blossom, does it mean ‘out’ as in bursting from bud, or ‘out’ as in finished, the blossom departed? I have always thought it meant the month of May, such a treacherous month, it can be warm and sunny with bees buzzing through the blossoms or it can be freezingly cold with depression after depression tracking across the Atlantic.

    2. Once my mother asked me to remove the weeds around her flowers. I asked which ones were the weeds. After a lot of huffing and complaining that it was obvious, I pulled up all the ‘green ones’.

      I wasn’t asked to do it again.

  20. Good morning, everyone. Going to be missing for a few days as we are going to the Midlands to support my younger daughter who has been diagnosed with malignant melanoma.

    1. Aghh!! Sorry to her that Del! Words are useless of course but best wishes.

    2. Oh, Delboy. All our best wishes to you and her. As a parent, I know that is the wrong way round.

    5. So sorry to hear that, Delboy. Hoping all goes well, and thinking of you and the family. Bless you all.

    8. That must be so worrying. I hope she gets the best treatment and recovers soon.

    10. All the best to you, your family and daughter. May it soon be sorted and a speedy recovery for her.

    12. I hope it has been caught early and that you can support both her and each other.
      Godspeed.

    13. Such dreadful news for you and your family, Delboy.
      My thoughts are with you all.

  22. 332746+ up ticks,
    Now there’s a question,
    Could it be the voting pattern ? ie the vote in / keep out
    regardless of mounting odious consequences.

    Totally ignoring what is building and getting stronger by the day.
    Keep up the voting pattern and be assured you will have
    opportunities to repent five times a day on hearing the call.

    https://twitter.com/IanColl51229833/status/1392900802084278281

    1. Paid them. Until we have a democratic system this nonsense will continue. These people are our servants, not our masters. Their place is on the ground with our boot on their neck, not the other way around. While they can take our power from us we will always be the servant. That must change.

      1. 332746+ up ticks,
        Morning W,
        To have change you will be attacking the lab/lib/con comfort voting zone of many, who would rather the Country sank than consider an alternative vote.

        1. Politics is a house built on sand. The massive theft of taxes to buy short term headline grabbing to shore it up throws water on it so for a while it’s stable as the sand solidifies, but over time weakens the foundations.

          True democracy is built on granite, and is hard to build and has little time for short term weathervane politicos. This is a GOOD THING.

  24. Moth On The Windscreen

    A crazy woman has just cut off her husband’s penis and is driving like a dingbat along the highway, waving it around and screaming.

    But the severed member is wet, so it slips out of her fingers and into the windshield of the car behind her. The man driving this car sees this severed penis in his windshield, and he wants to keep his young daughter from seeing it, so he hits the wipers, knocking the prick into the road.

    “What was that?” his daughter asks.

    Thinking fast, her father says “Just a moth, dear!”

    To which his daughter replies “Damn! That moth sure had one helluva cock on him, didn’t he?!”

  25. My sobriquet of the Babbling Poltroon (for Cameron) seems all the more appropriate….

  26. Off to build a frame for the raspberries.

    Will look in later. Be kind to each other.

  27. I had an interesting trip up to Edinburgh yesterday. I went up on the A1M, A66, M6 and M74 as I wanted to call in and see my elder cousin just a few miles beyond Lanark.
    On the M6. several miles before Gretna there was a sign pointing out the road to the EU document checking site. This brought out the reality of our PM’s unfortunate EU trade agreement . At least it would prevent lorries, with deficient documentation, destined for Northern Ireland travelling the long trip to Stranraer.
    In central Scotland I noticed a police car with POLICE on the bonnet but another one below it in a foreign language. I assume it was the Gaelic but very few people in Central Scotland speak Gaelic and I doubt that there are many Gaelic speakers in Scotland who don’t speak English. I think the Welsh police do something similar.
    Incidentally I don’t think there was much difference in the mileage going on the west route rather than the A1 on the east route. Roughly about 40 miles for the round trip in favour of the East route.

  28. Nicked Comment

    “A friend of mine works for a multinational engineering company, it appears
    they have been fully infiltrated by the woke sjw mentalists as
    yesterday in an email to all staff HR announced it’s policy is to get
    the employee gender split to 40/40/20.

    You can imagine what the 20 is – yep, it’s transgender.

    Needless to say he and many of his colleagues are quickly updating their CVs as they try to flee the company.”
    WooHoo !! I’m all in favour of this,I foresee a massive Tranny shortage with HR Departments bidding ever higher salaries to fill their quotas.
    As you can just self-identify these days without the nasty drugs or surgery I volunteer to help fill the gap only salaries over £100,000 considered
    My retirement income is secured!!

    1. You can write whatever gender you want on company documentation…how are they going to check?

        1. I don’t think that an employer can demand that ogga.

          Anyone from HR who can confirm that?

          1. 332746+up ticks,
            J,
            Then the employer must make an on the day law, the politico’s seem to get away with it.

    1. I wonder if the actions by Police Scotland were legal? The illegal immigrants were properly detained by Home Office officials. The news reports are very confused, scrambling comments about Eid, an interview with an imam, and information that the men are Indians and not muslims.
      I do hope that the Chief Constable is called to account, oh wait, Ms Sturgeon approves of this action.
      Will the same happen if Rentamob intervene to prevent the arrest of a popular drug dealer?

        1. Something wrong with that. That kid won’t grow up to be a BAME. All the real Immigration officers are BAMEs. It is so insulting*, to come back from abroad and be checked in respect of your entitlement to be here by a newly-arrived darkie speaking poor English.

          * This is probably intentional, and a part of the subjugation of the whites.

          1. His daughter might though. Then she’ll marry a prince and they’ll all live happily ever after.

          3. take it up a level Horace. As indigenous he’ll have to jump through ever increasing number of bureaucratic hoops, simply to proceed in being home and going home. He looks at the blank paper in pic and sees “Foxtrot Alpha” info required for an illegal economic migrant and realises he should have spent a couple more days on the beach topping his tan. Then he’ll sail through

    2. Fine. The gimmigrants can live with the people who wanted them out.

      Provide for them, pay for them, feed, clothe and house them. Oh, and be responsible for any crimes they commit and, as the creatures were going to be deported and have no legal status, should they commit crimes – such as rape and murder – then these won’t be investigated.

  30. Good morning, my friends

    Prince Harry talks of his ‘genetic pain’ in podcast with Dax Shepard
    On the Armchair Expert podcast, the Duke of Sussex discusses topics including receiving therapy, mental health and his father’s parenting
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/05/13/prince-harry-talks-genetic-pain-podcast/

    There are various ways in which social class is defined. To my mind Chaucer’s Wyf of Bath got it right when she said that gentilese did not come from old family ties, inherited wealth and property and power over other people but from the way you conduct yourself:

    Gentil dedes maketh gentil men,

    By any coherent definition Prince Harry is as common as dirt washing his dirty linen in public.

    But for ye speken of swich gentillesse
    As is descended out of old richesse,
    That therfore sholden ye be gentil men,
    Swich arrogance is nat worth an hen.
    Loke who that is most vertuous alway,
    Privee and apert, and most entendeth ay
    To do the gentil dedes that he can,
    And tak him for the grettest gentil man.

  31. “Only a few thousand Romanians are expected to arrive”

    Telegraph = Five million EU citizens apply for UK settled status – nearly double what was predicted pre-Brexit
    Questions raised over Government’s control of immigration, after only 3m were
    estimated to have been living in UK at the time of Brexit vote
    Now tell us how many totally illegal gimmegrants are hiding here………………

    1. Around 10% of the newly arrived,refugees/enrichers/economic migrants/parasites now in the UK are in Glasgow.

    2. I don’t think it is about foreigners – they came here because they thought life was better. And it was. We left their countries with rulers who would trade with us at the expense of their own people. But our own estabLishments have become greedy. Like drug dealers who start selling cocaine to the rich (and think that is ok) then end up selling crack to their own neighbours – and lending them the money to buy it.
      We became gullible – and pisstakers will take the piss.
      I think that soon the foreigners will be queueing up at their respective consulates to make sure their papers are in order to get out.

      1. 332746+ up ticks,
        Morning Lim,
        Controlled immigration we need, plus the fact we left many Countries with a great many more assets than we took.

        Everybody pays to learn.

        That is a fact shown by continuing to support & vote lab/lib/con we are now paying … the price.

  35. Just Musing
    So the Leftards think it is just fine to randomly fire off rockets at civilians if
    “Your homeland has been invaded and occupied by a foreign force”
    So by that logic my rocket attacks on Luton and Batley (etc etc) will not only be lawful but morally correct??

      1. My calls to the Iranian Embassy about a delivery of a shipload of suitable armaments have not yet been returned…………
        Pity

        1. Possibly the weapon factories in France and Belgium have a backlog? Arms sales are complicated and the weapons pass through many hands before eventual delivery. Sorting out an End User certificate can be expensive, although Mr Rashid may well be able to help.

  36. BBC News Headline:

    Wonder Woman star Gal Gadot has received a backlash online over her tweet about the escalation of violence in Israel and Gaza.

    The Israeli actress and former Miss Israel posted: “Israel deserves to live as a free and safe nation,” adding: “Our neighbours deserve the same.”

    ‘Israel, a free and safe nation’! There are no words to express the revulsion of the vile utterances of this disgustedly bigoted and stupid supporter of the Zionist occupied zone of Palestine’s sweet and blessed land – said the BBC under its breath.

    2. Whenever, I take a phoograph of wind turbines, none ever seem to be wo(r)king)

      1. 332746+ up ticks,
        Morning OLT,
        Seem to be working well for the wretch camerons FI Law I believe he has some.

  38. Green transition will unleash monster price rises, and do nothing to save the planet

    The mining capacity needed for the world to achieve net zero simply doesn’t exist

    JEREMY WARNER 14 May 2021 • 6:15am

    It has become something of a cliche, but it also happens to be true. If you want to do your bit for the planet, forget Tesla and other super expensive electric vehicles; just carry on driving the same old gas-guzzling banger you’ve always had.

    As much if not more carbon tends to be expended producing a new car as actually driving it. You are going to have to do an awful lot of miles in the old one before you match the carbon costs of buying a newer version.

    It was a slightly different, but similar point that Carlos Tavares, chief executive of the world’s fifth-biggest car maker, Stellantis, was making this week when he said that “green inflation” could soon make owning a vehicle the preserve of the rich.

    The prevailing narrative – both in the motor industry and among political leaders sold on the idea that the transition to an emission-free world can be accomplished without significant damage to lifestyles – is that as demand grows, the price of EVs will steadily come down until they are eventually accessible to all.

    Not so, argues Tavares; the coming energy transition is going to be hugely resource intensive, driving up costs across the board. He didn’t quite spell it out, though he hinted at it, so let me do so instead; it is entirely plausible that the monumental carbon costs of establishing the new infrastructure needed for a net zero world, nevermind its physical cost, could itself trigger the very same environmental catastrophe it is supposed to forestall.

    Green lobbyists vehemently dispute such claims, pointing out that though the transition will burn a lot of carbon initially, this will progressively decrease, eventually disappearing entirely.

    Yet whatever the modelling used, it is pretty much unarguable that going green will, to begin with, create a huge surge in global emissions. The transition will also result in myriad other forms of environmental and biodiversity destruction.

    Reducing our emissions here in Britain isn’t going to be of much use if all we are in fact doing is exporting them. A large part of that reduction stems from the decline in old, energy intensive smokestack industries, priced out of the market in part by rising energy costs.

    The solar panels that litter the landscape allow our own coal powered stations to be switched off, but are likely to have been manufactured in China using the very same as the main energy source. By reducing our own emissions, we are paradoxically only increasing them at a global level.

    Ministers worry about how to save the sad remnants of Britain’s once mighty steel industry, but for PR purposes refuse to sanction a new mine in Cumbria that would provide the relatively low cost coking coal that might help, preferring instead a long winded public inquiry and in the meantime the much higher carbon footprint of importing the stuff from Russia and beyond.

    Already the coming energy transition is driving a quite considerable jump in inflation. One of the big stories of the week has been a surge in US consumer price inflation to more than 4 per cent, the highest level in more than 10 years. The US Federal Reserve insists that the increase is only temporary. Believe it if you will; not many people at the coal face of rising prices do.

    Nor does Ivan Glasenberg, boss of one of the world’s largest mining finance houses, Glencore, who this week pointed out that the Chinese were progressively “tying up” great swathes of the world supply of cobalt, the metal needed for the lithium ion batteries used in longer range EVs.

    In a report published last week, the International Energy Agency found that an energy transition such as the one planned by President Biden in the US, if applied globally, would cause demand for key minerals such as lithium, graphite, nickel and rare-earth metals to explode, rising by 4,200 per cent, 2,500 per cent, 1,900 per cent and 700 per cent respectively by 2040.

    As things stand, the capacity needed to bring about such a transformation simply doesn’t exist. Massive, emission inducing investment in new sources of supply is required to meet the likely demand.

    “The mineral requirements of an energy system powered by clean energy technologies differ profoundly from one that runs on fossil fuels”, explains Fatih Birol, executive director of the IEA. “A typical electric car requires six times the mineral inputs of a conventional car, and an onshore wind plant requires nine times more mineral resources than a similarly sized gas-fired power plant. The energy sector’s overall needs for critical minerals could increase by as much as six times by 2040 [on current plans for reducing emissions]”.

    Another commodities super-cycle, similar to ones driven, first, by industrial renewal after the second world war and later by Chinese industrialisation beckons, powering a seminal shift into a new inflationary age. None of this to argue that we shouldn’t even be trying. It’s just that the politicians need to be a bit more honest about the consequences, as well as less starry eyed about the prospects of success.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/05/14/electric-cars-onwards-green-transition-will-unleash-monster/

    BTL:

    Quick Vaccine
    14 May 2021 6:31AM
    If that ridiculous oaf Boris, persists with his ‘green’ madness at the behest of the WEF and his fiance; Princess Nut Nut, then it will be the end of his reign…

    This is not about saving the planet – It’s about destroying capitalism, so that the WEF & China can rule the World with Communism!!! People need to start waking up!!!

    Mark Jefford
    14 May 2021 6:46AM
    Our only hope is that the Chinese do themselves an injury by laughing too much.

    1. It’s all part of the politicians’ master plan to keep the plebs in their place and make them stay there by having less access to their own means of getting about.

    2. The insanity of electric cars, wind power, solar power and so on passes them by. The greenies do not care about reality, but about showing off their credentials of entitlement in a fictitious world.
      We could go “local”, ie limit the travel of goods, eg no more cherries from Chile. Car makers would be stopped from making new cars, and be limited to making spare parts for existing vehicles. Plastic should be completely banned*. Palm oil should be banned.
      Our slogan “Back to the Fifties!”

      *https://www.beatthemicrobead.org/get-to-know-microplastics-in-your-cosmetics-2/#:~:text=Microbeads%20are%20small%2C%20solid%20plastic%20beads%20which%20are,to%20be%20in%20a%20visible%20or%20solid%20form.

  39. I was very disappointed in the BBC’s The Pursuit of Love which I had recorded and watched last night. However it reminded me of the fact that Nancy Mitford also wrote about acceptable ‘U’ and ‘non U’ vocabulary and that John Betjeman wrote his poem How To Get On in Society. Even Tom Utley has written about the matter in the DM: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9577309/TOM-UTLEY-middle-class-truly-care-posh-vocabulary.html#newcomment

    And here are a few lines from the lyrics of a song I wrote about the subject in about 1968 when I was younger and wickeder!

    My lounge is large and spacious and my toilet’s shocking pink.
    My cruets bear my monogram and my wife has got a mink.
    I wear a mohair blue tuxedo when I go to the county ball
    But I overhear them muttering: “He’s not our type at all.”

    1. And this morning on the local BBC radio, giving out the Covid figures which ended with “five people died in the area after having a positive test for Covid” – – Shame they couldn’t be bothered to say what the 5 died of – instead of just implying it was Covid. Got to keep the scare level up among the masses haven’t they? Clearly NO shame whatsoever.

  41. White Helmets corruption scandal deepens: Dutch gov’t investigated parent org for fraud, but covered it up. 7 May 2021.

    With more than $120 million in funding from numerous Western governments, the White Helmets were portrayed in servile media campaigns and by slick PR films as a noble philanthropic group dedicated to saving civilian lives. In reality, the organization functioned as the de facto civil and medical infrastructure for areas in Syria that were controlled by brutal, theocratic Salafi-jihadist insurgents.

    The White Helmets operated exclusively in areas run by the Syrian armed opposition, and collaborated extensively with extremists, including ISIS and al-Qaeda. White Helmets were even filmed assisting in public executions on numerous occasions.

    It doesn’t say so here but the “White Helmets were an Mi6 operation as can readily be seen by the evacuation of large numbers of their personnel to the UK when the Syrian Government were victorious against the Jihadists. The information about its leader James le Mesurier is interesting because I have always thought that he was murdered by them to shut him up and which is supported here by the corruption charges. Nothing about this in the UK MSM of course.

    https://thegrayzone.com/2021/05/07/syria-white-helmets-mayday-fraud-netherlands/

    1. Encouraged and funded by none other than Foreign Sec Fataturk along with the Great Fake SOHR of Leicester fame

  42. Brazil
    Kent
    South Africa
    India

    Funny how there is never a Chinese variant don’t you think? The point is a serious one, after all they are the cause of this sh*tshow.

    1. But look how many more countries are left to have a Covid “variation” of. Loads more of expensive jabe to move cash to Big Pharma.

        1. Isle of Wight variation? There are a lot of very peculiar people living there…..!!

          1. Now there’s a synchronicity – I was on the Isle of Wight a few days back, had a lovely time, it is a special place – but yes, the people are peculiar, they government needs to step up surveillance I think, they are definitely up to something.

          2. I’m going over there at the end of the month. I’ll keep a wary eye out.

    2. South Africa, india variation was because of closer economic ties to China and it’s Belt and Road Initiative, so aside the usual sanctions, Western Govts and compliant MSM create variations. Brazil variation is intended to prop Bolsonaro and for future use on Venezuela. Not sure of any Kent variation unless you’re referring to the weekly dinghy D-Day re-enactments. There never was a Chinese variant, the gig was pulled c/o the computer simulation exercise [Event 201] under the C-19 banner and used strains out of Fort Detrick that were released by US mil during the World Military Games in Wuhan. Chinese Govt flagged this and immediately notified W.H.O. funded by the usual septic clowns. Then straight after Davos 2020, the world all happens to be hit by C-19 on the same day at the same time. All part of the Great Reset, and the model globalists are following the old communist model

      1. You seem to have access to facts no one else seems to enjoy.

        Now returning to my point – why is any reference to China avoided by our media and politicians?

        It is a serious question.

        1. the info I posted is publically available if you look for it. At inception China served it’s purpose to point finger of blame and deflect attention for real agenda. Post creating Project Fear II [the first one attempted was Brexit [Project Fear I] and that didn’t work. Add also Trump beating Clinton in the same year]. Western economic model collapsed in 2008, as you know, and never recovered. The plan for a reset was ramped up further check Rockefeller Foundation 2010

          1. Seems to me your idea of engagement is to ignore anything I say and just post a load of conspiracy theories.

            If you want my attention at least show some awareness of my point.

          2. it’s not about engagement it’s presenting the facts / evidence that addresses your initial post. The conspiracy theory shrill died well over a year ago. People told follow the science they did and exposed it for what it is a global corporate reset agenda, following the communist model while pointing the finger elsewhere aka China. Enjoy the read in the links

          3. it’s not about engagement it’s presenting the facts / evidence that addresses your initial post. The conspiracy theory shrill died well over a year ago. People told follow the science they did and exposed it for what it is a global corporate reset agenda, following the communist model while pointing the finger elsewhere aka China. Enjoy the read in the links

          2. Happy Friday Jules, no rocket attacks on Tel Aviv last night but they continued rocketing our cities down south – Ashkelon, Ashdod & Beersheba

          3. The Beeb reports only tell us about ‘Israeli attacks’ on Gaza. They don’t say where the rockets are coming from.

          4. Lucky that the Beeb was still in British hand during WW2 or they would only be reporting from the ground in Dresden about British war crimes of dropping incendiaries on undefended German women & children.

          5. They try hard enough nowadays – saying that Arthur Harris was a murderer – as were all his gallant aircrew.

          6. The Beeb will spearhead the drive for reparations for the Afrika Korps survivors of the battle of El Alamein & claim that defeating the Axis powers in North Africa was an act of colonialism as we all know that the Gypos were waiting to welcome Rommel’s triumphant entry into Cairo !

          7. Hekmet Fahmy famous belly dancer of the Kit Kat Club before and during WWII [the founder of the iconic name Gippy Tummy thereafter] involved in espionage being an Egyptian nationalist Used her “charms” to extract information from the English, and pass it on to the Germans. You weren’t that far out Elf

          8. Nasser & Sadat were among the WW2 Egyptian Army officers arrested by the British for supporting the Germans . Cairo was full of German spies & Muslim Brotherhood sympathizers who passed on details of British army strength & troop movements to the Germans. During WW2 the Egyptian Army although fully equipped with British weapons stayed in its barracks & never took part in the defence of Egypt, in fact Egyptian anti-aircraft batteries in Alexandria port refused to open fire on German bombers attacking the port & RA gunners were sent in to take over the guns. I remember reading somewhere that an RA gunner wrote that the ” damn Gypo’s had a better version of the 40mm Bofor AA gun than theirs “

          9. It’s a relief that my father’s dead or no doubt he’d find himself under investigation for historical murders. He served with the LRDG in North Africa.

          10. As did my father-in-law – who kept this information to himself until he was in his last months. Since the war, he always said he was, “Just a tank driver”.

          11. That’d be typical of them, Bill. They were a very special breed. Dad was with G patrol BTW.

          12. Duncan may your father rest in the arms of the Lord, Amen. One of my mums brothers was in an armoured car recce unit in the desert & they would rendezvous with the LRDG & SAS during advances for information on German & Italian strength in the area of operations.

          14. My father was a glider pilot who, upon surviving the European theatre was posted to Burma with 656 Sqdn as a reconnaissance pilot flying Austers. They couldn’t/didn’t fly very high or fast and were in constant danger from ground-based fire.

          15. And old friend and neighbour was in Paris for a visit. He stood with his wife and looked at the wonderful sites all around him.
            He engaged in conversation with a local and they discussed the various buildings in view. The Parisian said, “oh monsieur, mademoiselle. as you can see the architecture of our capital is magnificent. Much better than that of your capital London”. Then as Ex Head master, John replied “But Paris was never bombed was it monsieur” ? The local went off in a huff.

          16. A few years ago I popped out of my office in Southampton looking for a spot of lunch when I was buttonholed by an elderly German couple (presumably off a cruise ship) who enquired of me the location of ‘die Altstadt’. They were a bit taken aback when I replied in my scrappy German, “Es gibt keinen. Du hast es bombardiert.”

          20. Tricks are so so for a retired old git like me, I am fully vaccinated & had not a war broken out 5 days ago life would be back to a fair semblance of normality here in Israel after a successful vaccination campaign & the full return to work & opening of places of entertainment and with no mask requirement outdoors & foreign travel restarted but Mohammed decided otherwise & deemed we should have to seek shelter when he rains down rockets on our cities.

          21. Ever noticed that the Ramadan bomb-athon becomes a feature of our lives whenever the globalists get control of the White House?

            I’m sorry to hear this is affecting you directly, on the plus side we all know this ends up at the usual cease-fire, let’s hope they get there more quickly then usual.

            One day both sides will realise someone else is playing them.

          23. But can I still call you Mahatma? I liked that name so much – no doubt loads of us have coined you by that name, but as far as I was aware I was the first…

          24. Happy Friday my dear Hearts, yes you can call me Mahatma, Pud, Hatters , Sptunik One ( my principal blog owning ID nowadays ) or Elfie, just dont call me collect !

          25. Funny how these small things still mean something. I coined the name (I don’t know what others did – as far as I was aware nobody else did at that time) because it just suited both your avatar and then name, and the fact that you went full tilt at what you believe in.

            Very warm wishes to you and yours.

        3. here’s a few of links that may be of use https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-2020-worldwide-corona-crisis-destroying-civil-society-engineered-economic-depression-global-coup-detat-and-the-great-reset/5730652 and https://www.globalresearch.ca/big-lie-strategy-america-super-rich-weaknesses-human-mind/5744322 being the latest. Some others https://www.un.org/humansecurity/agenda-2030/ and https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-19-vaccine-goal-immunity-depopulation/5731556 and https://www.globalresearch.ca/big-lie-strategy-america-super-rich-weaknesses-human-mind/5744322 this is a snapshot from one site. Rockefeller Foundation full Rpt https://www.rockefellerfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/Annual-Report-2010-1.pdf re Lockstep https://thefreedomarticles.com/2010-rockefeller-foundation-paper-plan-exploit-pandemic/ there are many others on here that know this background. Hope it helps

      1. so close but so far.

        Our blessed Trudeau is proudly claiming that everyone will be able to have their fittest vaccination by September. Somehow the left still love him.

  43. The EU’s latest immigration crisis

    Michel Barnier’s cynical intervention sounds a warning for Europe
    BY DOUGLAS MURRAY – May 14, 2021

    Over the past month, while the British press busied itself with stories about the type of wallpaper in the Prime Minister’s apartment, France has become embroiled in a crisis that threatens the legitimacy and future of the entire Republic.

    Predictably, it all started with a letter. Published in Valeurs Actuelles last month and signed by around 1,000 servicemen and women, including 20 retired Generals, it warned President Macron that Islamist extremists, and the existence of the banlieue ghettos, have the potential to tip France into civil war.

    The contents of the letter were disturbing. But so was the timing, coming as it did on the 60th anniversary of the failed generals’ putsch of 1961, when generals of the French Army attempted to topple President Charles de Gaulle. Indeed, it’s hardly surprising that it sparked an extraordinary scandal, with government ministers threatening to punish all the letter’s signatories.

    Undaunted by these threats, the warning was repeated this week in a second letter, this time signed by 130,000 members of the French public. Once again the French government condemned it. Elsewhere, their reception has fallen along predictable political lines: mainstream politicians of the Left and Right have criticised the letters, while Marine le Pen has been careful to express support for the signatories.

    This is, of course, to be expected. Le Pen will seize on whatever embarrasses the rest of the political mainstream, while the rest of that mainstream will continue to resist anything which could be seen to provide ammunition for Le Pen.

    But it is really the longer-term effect of interventions like these that are of most interest. Because what is striking about the debate on immigration, integration and security in France in recent years is not that the same lines keep getting drawn. The interesting thing is that, while this has gone on, French politics has experienced a silent revolution. Indeed, things are today said in France on immigration that would normally end a political career in most English-speaking countries.

    The most high-profile demonstration in recent weeks came in the form of Michel Barnier. The Frenchman turned 70 in January, a milestone which precludes him from taking up another job in the European Commission. And perhaps as a result, he is now eyeing up a run for the French Presidency.

    How do we know this? Because in an interview on Sunday, Barnier dropped this bombshell:

    “There are links between [immigration flows] and terrorist networks which try to infiltrate them… There is a risk of an explosion, particularly on the topic of immigration. We need to introduce a moratorium on immigration. We need to take time to evaluate, check and if necessary, change our immigration policies.”

    In this and later interviews the same day, he speculated that France should consider a total suspension of immigration for between three and five years, as well as a reassessment of free movement within the Schengen area. In other words, it is time for France to take back control. Suddenly, external migration and internal movement in the EU are now up for debate in the political centre.

    There are several interesting things to note about this. The first is the way in which the events of the last year have already shifted the debate on immigration and border control more than anyone might have expected. For more than a generation, governments in the developed West have argued that high levels of immigration into Western countries are a fact of life; migration cannot be stopped altogether even if the governments of the developed countries wanted to do so.

    But the events of the last year have shown this to be a lie. In an extreme event — on this occasion a global pandemic — countries around the world have shown that they are able to close their borders. Even Justin Trudeau’s Canada and Angela Merkel’s Germany, which have made a great show in recent years of being open to migration from around the world, did something that nobody could ever (before the pandemic) have expected them to do: they shut the borders and kept them shut.

    The public and some wilier politicians will have noticed something here. If it is possible to close the borders to prevent a pandemic, then it should be possible to close the borders to prevent excessive migration. Whether you agree with the policy or not, it has suddenly become a viable option.

    The only discussion, then, is whether a particular set of circumstances is serious enough for a pandemic border response to be enacted. Clearly there are many in France who think they are at this point. And that raises an important question over what is a more serious challenge to the long-term security of France: the Covid pandemic or the ongoing divisions and security concerns brought on by high levels of immigration?

    If you go to parts of Paris — even in the city centre — there are migrant tent communities set up that resemble somewhere in the third world, or California. As long as they exist, it is surely understandable for Parisians to wonder why this problem can’t be fixed.

    Their Government has shown that it can mandate everyone to stay in their homes, lock the borders and force everyone to wear masks. Why can it not deal with the issue of mass migration? Clearly the thought is out there. Otherwise Mr Barnier would not have taken — utterly cynically, no doubt — up the cause.

    And yet it is not just Covid that has changed things. Rather, as I described in The Strange Death of Europe, public opinion in France on immigration has long been shifting in this direction. Very few people, year on year, say that they are less concerned about integration; and very few believe that multicultural France has a happy future if migration continues at the rate of recent years.

    Politicians of the Left as well as the Right have long been facing up to this. But the Barnier intervention — like that of the generals — is a demonstration that the political reality, as well as the political rhetoric, in France is changing. Things that were once unthinkable are now being proposed as national policy. No doubt that will all come as a shock to Mr Barnier’s former colleagues, but they would be unwise to ignore it.

    https://unherd.com/2021/05/the-eus-latest-immigration-crisis/

    2. Douglas Murray is one of the few sane and rational voices on this subject.

      It is a question of political will. If Priti Patel and Boris Johnson sincerely wished to address the question about rubber-dinghy-loads of potential hostile illegal immigrants arriving daily on England’s South Coast they could do so.

      Why don’t they?

      And why don’t any serious journalists question them repeatedly as to why they are not doing so?

      1. UN global compact on immigration, signed by May, allows freemovement of people.
        So, govt agrees they can come.
        Thats why they are assisted in.

        1. Well, let’s house the immigrants in the Mays’ dwellings. Even she will get more than a run through a cornfield to remember, dismal old bitch.

  44. Off to see Sister and BiL I’m cooking curry tonight,Pork dhansak,Channa sag masala and Aloo matter

    Just drop these off before I go

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    1. “Pork dhansak,Channa sag masala and Aloo matter” – Admit it, it’s just a posh name for alphabet soup.

    2. “Pork dhansak,Channa sag masala and Aloo matter” – Admit it, it’s just a posh name for alphabet soup.

    1. That is the kind of bastard who comes in the garden and bloody EATS everything that I have spent months growing.

      Wish I had a GUN.

        1. I did – I have the scars to prove it. The fuckers just jump over it…

          6. As long as they’re dead and cut into manageable size joints, may I have some?

          8. I know. The fence as only three feet high – but it stopped some predators. The deer are real bastards – they come right up to the house and look in the windows – and are not scared off by being shouted at.

      2. We had a deer problem at an allotment.
        I suggested to an adjacent neighbour whose flowers were being eaten that she coukd try hanging bars of soap (preferably coal tar) on the fence.

        1. The Finnish sniper has taken it home for dinner? Meanwhile , keep an eye on the alligator?

          4. Took some doing. I had to download the 1st and 3rd images, then toggle between the two until I saw an irregularity.

  46. Happy Friday all Nottlers, day 5 of the fighting with rocket attacks continuing on our southern communities but no attacks on Tel Aviv for the 2nd night now & our air force attacking Gaza in response & our artillery responding to mortar fire coming out of Gaza hitting nearby border communities. Right thats enough of the bad news now for some cheerful music, dedicated to Elsie whose father used to sing her this song when she was a child : The Quebe Sisters – “It’s a Sin to Tell a Lie”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QANZnAKDvc8&list=PLl1vC-6rt2ALNynUL0vnTWeSAzLNZbOJ_

    1. Pity they can’t spell they name right. It is missing a “c”….!!

      Shalom, Hatman.

  47. Back from the garden. I hate wire. I HATE WIRE!!

    There, got that off my chest. I shall now try to relax and read the newspaper.

    I see that the Swedish Muppet “supports” Hamas and the Palestinians. Since she hardly ever goes to school, I am surprised that she knows where they are. And I wonder if he tiny, unformed brane realises that if she lived there, she’d be in full slammer uniform for women.

    PS I HATE WIRE!!!

    1. Who said she knows where Palestine is?

      She spouts lots of hot air about climate, does she know all about climate?

    3. Strange that the Swedish Muppet hasn’t objected to Bill Gates’ idea of spraying chalk into the upper atmosphere in order to cool the earth down.

    1. Happt Friday Belle, what was it all about? Welfare payments arrived late or the Kebab shop ran out of food to break the Ramadan fast with?

      1. See my comment reply to you yesterday, It looks as if it’s already started.

          1. Directly I feel for my family and grandchildren they wont even know what has hit them until they become the minority. You can easily afford to breed when you don’t have to pay rent or a mortgage and live tax free off the UK benefits system. We have had families from other parts of the world demanding larger homes because they have ten or more children.
            I’m not a supporter of this guy, but just look at what happened to Tommy Robinson, all he did was to stand out side the court and speak his mind and point out the glaring faults within our judiciary system. Those bastards locked him up. Others seems to be able to do what the please within our borders with out even being reprimanded, justice let alone prosecution. Why is this country and seemingly the whole of Europe heading for cultural suicide ?
            Some one posted a cartoon this morning showing a queue of men with beards being let through border control then another with the bearded one at the desk refusing entry to the man originally behind the desk.
            Luton airport is a classic example. The very people who the security set up was originated for, as in to pick out and identify the possible terrorist now seem to be running the security checks. But at least they are now paying taxes.
            I have no idea who the ‘THEY’ are but they certainly have effed up everything they have come into contact with.

          2. Some 15 years ago ( a now late aunt of mine ) a wartime ATS driver who in her later years walked with a stick returned from visiting her son & DiL in the USA was stopped at border control at Heathrow by one Black female ape of a security staffer & a Hijab clad turd security staffer & taken for a very nasty strip search despite her advanced age, frailty & limping along with a stick and not carrying any large hand luggage unlike the hundreds of hijab clad Muslims returning from a pilgrimage & carrying hold alls the size of Texas, all of them were waived through & not stopped. She only got caught up in that lot as it had taken her a long time to walk from her plane out to border control , the other passengers on her flight had already left the terminal by then. Supposedly she was chosen at random, or at least that’s the explanation that her other son who was waiting to pick her up got from another “Foreign Gentleman ” possibly a Paki who was the Security Supervisor on duty that time of day. The day they handed control of the Border to the Wogs was the day the fate of the UK was sealed ! Sing “Braised Beef To Allah ” ( praise be to Allah ) & vote Labour if you support National Suicide !

          3. it’s done with real intent knowing you can’t kick off or they make it worse and you can do nothing about it, to anyone

          4. My dear late father, similar in character but not looks to Freddie Trueman , would return back to the UK frequently, from SA. In contrast to decades earlier when he would be welcomed back from other parts of Africa, the surly black / brown b######ds on border control security were pretty damned terrible to any incomers on South African flights . He was a resident out there .

            Our UK airport Thiefrow / Gatwick border passport control is rarely white , and surly unsmiling sneering couldn’t care less about us indigenous white residents .

            My experience when leaving SA after visiting him would be a cheery goodbye from their security / border passport control , where they would say, please come back to see us and don’t leave it too long before you do.

          6. Afternoon Geoff.
            GP rang me this morning to do a consult and inform me of blood results etc My B/P s still a bit too high , so I must write down results twice a day .
            Headache has gone thank goodness, just feel wiped out and feeble .
            I probably suffered from viral overload after my jab , but hey , the thing is , rather have viral overload than the alternative , what ever that is , perhaps shouting down from my own Rainbow bridge!

            GP also suggested that the way things are going our annual flu jab will be integrated with a Covid booster in the Autumn!

            I gave the dogs a run , I amble along in the countryside for a mile or so .
            This time I have my much hated mobile phone with me which Moh insists I have with me .

            When I was in A+E ,poor chap was stuck in the hospital car park for hours not knowing what was going on . Covid rules say no relatives , spouse etc , and he had great difficulty finding out what was going on whilst I was being attended to… So eruptions and stuff about keeping a phone with me at all times .

            Thanks anyway Geoff , when things go wrong , they really do cause such a fuss!

          8. I fully understand and know what you are saying.
            I suppose you might have heard that when Kahnt was first ‘elected’ as mayor thousands of people in London Jewish communities could not vote because they didn’t receive their ballot papers. It was classed as an admin error. A well practiced version of the sort of things that happen in that pakistanshit hole.
            Including blowing up their lady PM.

      1. It’s the queue of holidaymakers outside the airport. A bit tired and emotional, I suppose. It’s been a long wait.

      1. April in May…..right now the lilac blossom is currently smelling quite nice.

        1. 😎😏
          I thought you were practicing a Geordie accent Why eyer.
          Hers a tip with thin-ish wire.
          Use double the amount and hook one end around a thin but substantial object i.e. a strong piece of metal. Bring the other ends together and place them in the end of a drill chuck. Tighten the chuck and put the drill into drive, it makes the wire double strength more ridged and easier to use.

          1. I am obliged.

            I have hammered in 14 metal stakes to surround the raspberry plants. I then had to put wire through the holes and tighten it.
            The first wire was perfect; right tension etc etc. Then I did the next layer – perfect – BUT the first wire had become less taut. The third layer made both of the previous ones lose tension.

            By then I was cursing, blaspheming, and bleeding. And I had two more lots to do. It is now finished but looks a dog’s breakfast.

            Grrr.

          2. You might need to get some more wire Bill, not sure of Screw fix sell it but a Builders merchant will.
            But fi you do this it will be much stronger and more resilient.

          3. It is not the wire, Eddy. I have miles of bloody (literally, in many cases) wire. Its getting the tension right. AND being a useless, cack-handed tosser who can never do anything right where skilled hands are concerned.

          5. Problem is, as you tension one set of wires, the poles move, slackening the rest.
            You need rigid ends to brace the wire against.
            Have this problem every spring with the blackberry lines. The weight of plant & snow has slackened the wires by tilting the poles – and the outer ones are braced, too! Need re-hammered and re-tensioned. That’s the job for this weekend, now the poo cellar is emptied.

          6. Perhaps you’d pop over – and spend your 14 days in quarantine re-doing the damned thing for me!

          7. Davs, Oberst!

            Put a couple of recipes etc. on medieval ale for you and other brewers, above!

            Skaal!

          9. Forgive me, Bill, but surely the thing to do is put all the wires in, and tension them progressively? If you fully tension the first, the second will inevitably loosen the first if you tighten it too much. and so on…

          10. Do you want a job…??

            What you suggest is exactly what we did – and, progressively, the earlier wires lost tension…!!

  50. Chillaxed was a word associated with David Cameron when he was prime minister. He looked anything but when he appeared before MPs during two lengthy select committees investigating his lobbying activities on behalf of the now-bust fintech company Greensill Finance.
    One of Mr Cameron’s problems is that he is now even more friendless than most former premiers and party leaders.

    Never mind David on Monday you can hug a hoodie…….

    2. What ever he’s done he’ll get away with it, the political classes always do.

      1. It is a sobering fact that the UK has more War Criminals in its legislature than the rest of Europe put together!

        1. Didn’t they hold trials for war crims in Europe, we as in government advisers and ex ministers and PM’s still seem take great pleasure in LTA’s of these people. L stands for Licking
          Bonus for the UK we have a Bosnian WC on his way here to spend the rest of his days in jail. what will that cost us 80 -100 grand a year more ? A mere bagatelle i suppose if your’e not a UK taxed hard working producer and only a receiver (AKA politicians & Civil servants) of public money.

    3. Sheer bl00dy greed.
      He is already a millionaire (x30 I understand) and his wife and her family are not exactly on their uppers.
      Some people never know when enough is enough.

  51. Dame Cressida Dick admits the streets of London ‘are not safe for everyone all of the time’. 14 May 2021.

    The Met Commissioner has admitted the streets of London are “not safe for everyone all of the time” and has said there is far too much violence against women and girls.

    No Sh*t! Did this come by email or a bolt of lightning? By the way the blokes aren’t doing too well either!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/14/dame-cressida-dick-admits-streets-london-not-safe-everyone-time/

    1. She isn’t interested in men – except as rapists, and perpetrators of “far-right” hate crime.

    2. But what’s their solution?

      Khan would like to see the streets either empty of women altogether or wearing black (sowwee, waycist!) from head to toe.

      Dick? Who knows!

      1. Solution = Take a Knee & a statement on a smartphone. Create a woke soundbite move for MSM benefit that triggers great woke activity with no tangible result. Then leave the backlog to pile up til Dear Dame Cressida enters the HoL for an extensive debate and a future recommendation for a whitewashed [no colour pun intended here] enquiry

    3. Dodgy to go down to the Tube Station, as well, if Ms Creesids Dick-Cranium is in charge of anything

    4. If that is a fact and we all know it is,………. WTF is she still doing in that job ?

    3. that’s been non MSM live info for a few days, the domino effect will happen elsewhere and Woke MSM will follow same mantra : “nothing to see / report here, move on”

      1. The election fraud took place in plain sight.

        Even some intelligent friends of mine are happy to go along with the lie that there is absolutely no evidence of election fraud when they could actually see it happening on live TV.

  53. From https://refugeesmigrants.un.org/sites/default/files/180713_agreed_outcome_global_compact_for_migration.pdf the Global Compact on Migration:
    Objectives for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration
    (1) Collect and utilize accurate and disaggregated data as a basis for evidence-based policies
    (2) Minimize the adverse drivers and structural factors that compel people to leave their country of origin
    (3) Provide accurate and timely information at all stages of migration
    (4) Ensure that all migrants have proof of legal identity and adequate documentation
    (5) Enhance availability and flexibility of pathways for regular migration
    (6) Facilitate fair and ethical recruitment and safeguard conditions that ensure decent work
    (7) Address and reduce vulnerabilities in migration
    (8) Save lives and establish coordinated international efforts on missing migrants
    (9) Strengthen the transnational response to smuggling of migrants
    (10) Prevent, combat and eradicate trafficking in persons in the context of international migration
    (11) Manage borders in an integrated, secure and coordinated manner
    (12) Strengthen certainty and predictability in migration procedures for appropriate screening, assessment and referral
    (13) Use migration detention only as a measure of last resort and work towards alternatives
    (14) Enhance consular protection, assistance and cooperation throughout the migration cycle
    (15) Provide access to basic services for migrants
    (16) Empower migrants and societies to realize full inclusion and social cohesion
    (17) Eliminate all forms of discrimination and promote evidence-based public discourse to shape perceptions of migration
    (18) Invest in skills development and facilitate mutual recognition of skills, qualifications and competences
    (19) Create conditions for migrants and diasporas to fully contribute to sustainable development in all countries
    (20) Promote faster, safer and cheaper transfer of remittances and foster financial inclusion of migrants
    (21) Cooperate in facilitating safe and dignified return and readmission, as well as sustainable reintegration
    (22) Establish mechanisms for the portability of social security entitlements and earned benefits
    (23) Strengthen international cooperation and global partnerships for safe, orderly and regular migration

    1. (24 ) Destroy all indigenous, settled communities in all developed countries

      There – completed it for you, Paul

        1. Richard, you know what the globalist reply will be. They’ll point to European migration and colonisation in previous centuries and they’ll ignore the likes of William Penn, who actually did ask the Delaware Indians for consent before moving into their territory.

          1. “Colonisation”, edited/corrected. Windows 10 has opted out of spellcheck on Disqus!

          2. Hi, Sue,

            Globalists have no sense of change and history. Only change in technology which makes their aspirations so much easier.

        2. Richard, you know what the globalist reply will be. They’ll point to European migration and colonisation in previous centuries and they’ll ignore the likes of William Penn, who actually did ask the Delaware Indians for consent before moving into their territory.

    2. See, this is legal immigration. That’s fine. I work with Poles, Nigerians, a Bosnian, a Ukrainian… they’re great. Hugely skilled, very capable.

      They’ve applied legally, can support themselves, pay their bills. No problem.

      The ones we don’t want, who are not asylum seekers or refugees (both groups we welcome as long as they apply legally) are the ones who arrive on a plane/boat, have no skills, utility,, purpose or function and cost us money and commit crime.

      1. Yo, wibs,

        I’m not sure that all legal immigrants are “no problem”. I remember reading a few months ago (I can’t remember where) of a medical couple (one GP, one a hospital doctor) who were legal immigrants from the middle east. They were found to be treating their employee as a household slave, including confiscating her passport, not allowing her to make telephone calls, beating her, not paying her etc.

        Edit: some of the so-called legal immigrants still bring with them behaviour which is abhorrent to us.

        2. Not all of them.
          When we lived in Nigeria, the watchword was “Give us the job and we will finish the tools!”

          4. they last all of 1 week max here in Kenya. Their reputation precedes them, closely followed by Liberians. The last one who tried it was was a “Ron Moody” Pastor Joseph Ifeanyichukwu Ezeking claiming he could raise the dead, under Evangelism without a permit [residence or business]. Even their diplomats are known when visiting other Embassies of nicking the cutlery or anything not nailed down, unless it’s their hands

    3. (666) Pretend that human nature is not immutable and that culture is the product of economics therefore cultural and genetic differences are irrelevant. In fact, pretent objective reality doesn’t exist and blame others for the violent and chaotic consequences that ensue.

  54. DM Story

    So much for going GREEN, Boris! PM took ‘completely unnecessary’ 50-minute ride in Tory peer’s HELICOPTER for photo op on a BIKE
    Boris Johnson flew by helicopter from north-west London to Wolverhampton
    The same journey could have been completed by train in just two hours
    Helicopter flights are criticised for being bad for the environment
    The journey was two weeks after he promised to ‘build back greener’

    He had just gone on to the Anne Summer website and ordered a complete Sado/Masochism kit and he knew that if he infuriated his paramour by being un-green she would put more indignant vigour into their mutual activities.

    1. Perhaps his mates will have a whip round for him.
      I have a friend who use to play and sing in a small band mainly in the south east, they raised money for various charities.
      He told me about one Gig they did about 5 years ago for some sort of legal society and high office friends, it was on private land ticket only set up, in a number of medium size marquees. He latterly discovered it was one giant naked Orgie, which he and his colleagues were also invited to join in. They left without further musical input.

    3. You know they live by different rules to the rest of us. Only the plebs will be forced to be green.

  55. I have posted my views before, suggesting that charities, that is “charitable status” should be abolished. But no. The government is to authorise charities to embezzle money from dormant accounts. “Embezzle?”, well what else is it? Is it just theft?

    https://www.thirdsector.co.uk/dormant-assets-scheme-set-900m-expansion/finance/article/1715587?bulletin=thirdsectorweekly&utm_medium=EMAIL&utm_campaign=eNews%20Bulletin&utm_source=20210514&utm_content=Third%20Sector%20Weekly%20(40)::&email_hash=

    1. opening link and the message says: this site is temporarily unavailable. / We are sorry for the inconvenience.

      they’re busy moving the e-money

      1. I got straight into the link and got this ” Dormant assets scheme set for up to £900m expansion”
        by Stephen Delahunty – to go further needs signing in.

        1. I know – but I was just making a point. There are lots of little, volunteer-run charities all over the country (and abroad) who are not lining their own pockets.

      2. Of course not. However, I get the news from “the Third Sector” and it looks to me as if charities are an excuse for many people to line their pockets at the expense of those decent generous people who support them.
        I briefly worked for one of the largest charities in Scotland, Crossreach, the care provider of the Church of Scotland. Why, I wondered did the chief executive need £15,000 spent on rosewood office furniture?

        PS hedgehogs, and foxes?

      1. Aye, my dear – and hoping that you manage your loss. All warm wishes to you.

  58. What awful damned luck, all those weeks of lockdown where nothing much was happening with covid, every week cases were reducing, deaths were falling, then the weekend before we are due to ease restrictions, it all kicks off again.

    2. Annie asked the same question a couple of days ago. Her profile is private, and the moderation page is pretty useless. I’ve emailed Hertslass, since I believe she has DR’s contact details. Watch this space…

      1. Geoff might I suggest you create a public listed email address solely used for readers contact, say for example Admin_NTTL @ xyz.com
        I have a public listed one for over 4 years ; Admin_News@mail2world.com & had it listed on my channels & my blogs. Of course you will get some spam mail but it is useful for contacts with readers & mods and for passing on confidential info off blog to readers

        2. Thanks, Hatters. My email address is simply my full Christian* name (*no offence intended) + my surname dot co dot uk. HL assembled a list of Nottlers who are prepared to be contacted, but not necessarily broadcast to the entire planet.

    3. She is ok, fret not. She is busy atm. I am sure she will return in due course, as they say.

    4. No – I do hope she’s ok. Stephenroi might know – they had lunch together some time ago.

        1. I wish. The boat hasn’t left its mooring since last October. All being well I hope to take her for a long cruise starting in early June. You will no doubt be relieved to know that as I don’t have on board internet posts from me will be few and far between – although I may posts a few photos now and again…..

          3. Can you use your phone as a Wi-Fi hotspot? When I spent a few days on the Llangollen Canal a few years back, the main problem was that the boat acted as a Faraday Cage, so the mobile data signal was very weak.

      2. I haven’t seen DR since last year when we took tea in her garden prior to her move.

  60. Yesterday’s business in Glasgow was reported with relish by the BBC tv news last night. The Midget was quoted thus by the reporter: “Sturgeon said doing this on Eid in the Moslem community in the middle of coronavirus was staggeringly irresponsible.” Funny that, given that the two men detained were Sikhs.

    There’s a long report here on the BBC website: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-57100259

    There’s little hope for controls on immigration if politicians whip up the public as they did here. Paul Sweeney, MSP, was at it.

    https://twitter.com/PaulJSweeney/status/1392908568274382858

    …detaining people who escaped terrible conditions to seek sanctuary.

    Er, two Sikhs? Where did they escape from that was so terrible?


    And then:

    https://twitter.com/PaulJSweeney/status/1392833053475672065

    “Removal of our neighbours will not stand.”

    Neighbours, neighbours, eh? Here are two saps who were interviewed. There’s just something about them, isn’t there? You could pick them out of any crowd.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c501bc3ded2dd7dba2ed8a32411a4e84c7520e5f66a73ef8d33e83f39faec71f.jpg

    “People are standing in solidarity and they don’t want to see their neighbours treated like this and they are our neighbours.”


    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a1f590fbee132e769533b9013544e1bf1b179cb7620fc7829ff5ead8b57dc46c.jpg

    “They had the biggest smiles on their faces and they were thanking us.”

    Dopes and dupes…

          2. It is published on a Thursday and sent by post that day to arrive on the Friday.

            I am very familiar with the website – but do NOT wish to preempt my simple pleasure (not that it is much, these days, considering the direction The Spectator is taking) of holding a magazine in my hands…!

          9. Actually, so do I. There are a couple of climbing roses on the back fence at the new abode. The largest was somewhat overgrown, and supported by a trellis which wasn’t attached to anything. So I bought some wires, ‘ooks, tensioners and the likes from Mr Bezos and installed them between the concrete posts. Cue strong wind a few days ago, and the roses had left the fence, and were lying down on the job.

            The wires remained in place, until I tried to refix the roses. Eventually, all was restored, but the scalp may take a while to fully heal…

        2. Happy Friday Geoff, no rocket attacks in Tel Aviv for 2 nights but non-stop rocket attacks on our south western coastal cities of Ashkelon, Ashdod, Sderot ( right on the Gaza border also under mortar attack ) & in land to Beersheba . Our IAF is bombing Hamas targets imbedded with civilian infrastructure after issuing warnings to the civilian population to leave or take shelter & our artillery batteries around Gaza are returning fire against Hamas mortar crews firing at the small border town of Sderot & several Kibbutzes along the Gaza border.

    3. Fine. Absolutely fine. These women will then live with those men.

      As for Glasgow will not obey Home Office law – if law doesn’t apply in Scotland then perhaps it needs a lesson in how to behave properly.

    4. Excellent. We know of a few hundred more in Dover who would be delighted to be sent to Glasgow.

      1. by foot, in leg chains with commensurable 2m distance between clamps and preferably during proposed bad weather. Jab stops every 100 miles

    5. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/14/asylum-seeker-allowed-to-remain-in-britain-after-plea-by-mp-is-f/

      “A n asylum seeker who was allowed to remain in Britain after an MP campaigned for him to stay is finally facing deportation after being jailed for a sex attack. Sri Lankan-born Sivarajah Suganthan, . . . ”
      Wonder if any of those do-gooders apologiced to the victim?

      The people who enabled him to stay should be jailed for “aiding and abetting” the criminal to stay here.

        1. And any taxpayer-funded lawyer who campaigns for them to stay should be made PERSONALLY responsible for ten years for those they want here. Housing them in the lawyers OWN home, with their families, food, healthcare costs, obeying the law etc etc. Any crime by the applicant – -the LAWYER goes to jail.

    3. An offensive oldie but always worth an airing:

      Recent research at Harvard by Holinshead, Harvey and Hall
      Show that the dear little hedgehog just cannot be buggered at all
      But why don’t professors from Harvard learn a bit from the scholars at Yale
      Who successfully buggered a hedgehog by shaving the spines off his tail.

        1. Just like the song line “Britannia rules the waves” – We can’t even stop rubber dinghies – our govt actually rewards them for the rest of their lives – from our taxes.

      2. Happy frigdig to U 2.

        I’m surprised they actually manage to burn it after they pissed and spat on it.
        Bastards

    1. As long as the migrants know they will get away with it they will continue to come.

      Why does nobody in the MSM dare to take the government to task on this issue?

      1. Never heard of him but his website says he is based in Nazareth , nowadays a Muslim majority town full of extremists . He is some sort of crackpot lying malcontent, we have a surfeit of left wing Jewish crackpots who love the Arabs in Israel so having a foreign one who hates Jews live in our tolerant society is no surprise . Probably he is Gay but loves the very same Muslims who would love to castrate him & throw him off a roof top !

  66. Putin says Israel-Palestine escalation poses threat to Russia’s security. 14 may 2021.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin warned on Friday that the current escalation between Israel and Palestine poses a direct threat to Russia’s security.

    Holding a meeting with the Russian Security Council, Putin suggested discussing the situation in Jerusalem and Gaza Strip prior to the agreed agenda.

    “I would like to ask my colleagues to comment on the current situation in the Middle East, I mean the escalated Palestinian-Israeli conflict – this is happening in the immediate vicinity of our borders and directly affects our security interests,” he said.

    This is an oddity! Vlad hardly ever refers to Israel in public. He and Netanyahu are political buddies and usually settle up any disagreements in private. It could be a roll on from Ukraine the other week where he seems to have laid down a new response to foreign provocations. Is he thinking of sticking his oar in directly?

    https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/putin-says-israel-palestine-escalation-poses-threat-to-russia-s-security/2241378

        1. Just when you thought he couldn’t get any more stupid…Oh the irony! But the Yanks don’t do irony, either!
          What a complete prat!

          1. if he’s screwed the nut, put his English brain into gear, locked Wallis Simpson Jnr in the closet and at same time touch a nerve with woke septics, then no problem he can confirm “I’m a prat BUT I stand by what I say”

          2. It was the remark to a blogger on NFL, that celebrities shouldn’t comment on things they knew nothing about that really did it! The ginger airhead actually thinks he “knows” about stuff!
            He really did use the word”misinformation” to put the guy down!!

          3. he might think he knows about “stuff” [if he manages a decent night’s sleep] just not in the right context, order. He’s in a hole and keeps on digging

          4. if he’s screwed the nut, put his English brain into gear, locked Wallis Simpson Jnr in the closet and at same time touch a nerve with woke septics, then no problem he can confirm “I’m a prat BUT I stand by what I say”

          5. For ten years, I was organist at St Peter, Brandon. It’s only a few miles from three Yank bases. So we used to get a few visitors from across the Pond. A few joined the choir. Lovely people, but they were devoid of any understanding of irony…

    2. Answer me this one, please, because I don’t “get” it:

      If the First Amendment of the American Constitution protects freedom of speech; why are so many American owned-and-run companies: e.g. Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Instagram (among many more) able to randomly defy this through their policies of arbitrary and random censorship?

      Has anyone ever taken them to task in court for their ongoing blatant and overt defiance of the First Amendment?

      1. FB have been taken to court Stateside and supposedly in EU as well, the others are in the wings to be taken to court. Over use of Artifical Intelligence [AI] and writing the algorythms to fit their pre-agree planned agenda. Hence they create their version of censorship

      2. Because they’re private companies and can police their content as they see fit.

        However. They also claim to be publishers, and not liable for that content. Thus they need to be forced to make a choice: platform and they are exempt from prosecution for member content, and are subject to freedom of speech laws OR publisher. Not both.

  68. Nicola Sturgeon’s comments on immigration will soon come back to bite her

    The SNP has refused to defend the rule of law. That should let alarm bells ringing

    TOM HARRIS

    Yesterday was not the first time UK immigration law has slammed awkwardly against protests by Scots determined to halt deportations of illegal immigrants. In the noughties the media, activists and political parties would indulge in hostilities over so-called dawn raids, when families who had run out of legal options to remain legally were physically apprehended in their homes and taken to immigration detention centres.

    Nevertheless, yesterday’s events, in which the arrests of two asylum seekers by immigration enforcement officers was halted and the men eventually released after hundreds of Glasgow residents blockaded their vehicle, is a new development. Never before has the rule of law been so flagrantly, or so successfully, challenged. The political consequences could be enormous.

    It’s important at the start to define terms, especially in all episodes relating to immigration. Various observers have referred to the two detainees as “refugees”. This is not the case, unless you wish to describe anyone who arrives in Britain from abroad as such. Were they in fact refugees, they could not have been removed. They were arrivals who had had their application for asylum rejected.

    This is important, because to get to the stage where an applicant is considered for deportation, there are many legal and administrative hurdles to clear. Everyone rejected claimant for asylum in the UK lodges an appeal. Judicial reviews inevitably follow, not to mention the involvement of local MPs. If, after all this, the Home Office has decided to remove someone, you can be sure it is only because all the legal avenues open to the claimants have been firmly and permanently closed.

    Bearing this in mind, yesterday’s events should be a cause for concern. It was inevitable that the SNP government would take centre stage in seeking to benefit from any public revulsion at the very notion that immigration rules should ever be enforced. Nicola Sturgeon, a trained lawyer, in whose constituency the incident took place, said nothing in defence of the principle that the law should be upheld, whatever individuals’ views of such a law might be.

    Neither did she or her justice minister, Humza Yousaf, concede that the devolution settlement should be respected. The principle that asylum (as opposed to immigration) should be the exclusive preserve of the UK government has never been seriously challenged. Is Holyrood now seeking to take charge of asylum policy in direct violation of The Scotland Act?

    No, because the first minister undoubtedly recognises that this is an area her party can benefit from, but at the same time understands that in the broader debate on Scotland’s future, it could come back to bite her. Yesterday her comments were interpreted as condemning all and every attempt to repatriate anyone who is living in Scotland without the legal right to do so. But she knows that the reality of the independent Scotland she wants to lead would be that immigration enforcement is a distasteful but inevitable part of a modern democratic state. Unless, of course, she is suggesting that such a state would remove no one. Is that the future she wants to see for her country, a money-making paradise for people-traffickers?

    It’s comforting for those involved in yesterday’s demonstrations to believe that everyone in Scotland feels the same as they do, that the act of removing people who have defied the law to remain here illegally is regarded with consistent contempt across Scotland. But that is far from the case; despite their reputation, Scots are hardly more tolerant of illegal immigration than anyone else in Britain.

    And where were the opposition parties yesterday? In the noughties, Scottish Labour MPs spent a great deal of time – and expended a good deal of political capital – dealing with this issue and defending the then Labour government for implementing a policy that had been pursued by every British government since the end of the First World War. It was an uncomfortable task but we felt we had to make the case, otherwise we would be giving the green light to organisations and individuals to pick and choose which laws to follow.

    The most dishonest interpretation of events has come from those who cynically dismiss immigration laws as “Tory” and therefore carry less weight. It’s a well-worn tactic among nationalists to try to discredit all the works of the UK government on principle. They have made much electoral progress in doing so, but surely even the SNP recognises how dangerous this is?

    Yesterday there were few, if any, opposition politicians’ voices heard supporting immigration workers or condemning the intimidation they faced as they sought to implement the law of the land.

    In the months and years ahead they may come to regret allowing the loudest voices in this debate become the only ones we hear.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/14/sturgeons-comments-immigration-will-soon-come-back-bite

    2. The Left need to be taught their place. All those who mobbed the police charged with obstruction of justice and fined or jailed. They have got to be taught they will not get their way.

  69. Figaro article

    https://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/calais-des-migrants-tentent-de-s-introduire-dans-le-port-un-routier-legerement-blesse-20210514

    100 people seeking to get to England from Calais last night cut the wire in the enclosed areas and waylaid lorries in attempts to board them and make a ferry crossing. One lorry driver was badly injured and had to be taken to hospital. The Police had to break up the fracas using tear gas.

    The majority of the BTL comments ask the question:

    Why don’t we let them go and let the British sort it out?

    Is this not quite understandable? Imagine groups of violent people from the Middle East in Dover clamouring to hijack lorries to get to France would the British people be keen to stop them going?

    Until the British politicians sort this problem out it will go on and on and the French will, quite understandably, say it’s our fault for being so lenient. Indeed the French do not like the British weakness on this issue. If Britain was firm then places like Calais would have fewer migrants polluting their streets.

    1. The British politicians have absolutely zero intentions of stopping the invasion. They have lied for years at election times about cutting/stopping it – and it has gone up and up.. I would never believe that anyone with the surname of Patel wants to stop it. And what has her side’kick done since his appointment? Dan Dan the invisible immigration man. Agenda 21 in full throttle. Where will the 2k that poured into Lampedusa the other day, end up? Thousands more will come, all expecting their totally free luxury lives.

      1. Having failed to acknowledge that the Brexit deal is a disaster Nigel Farage seems to have given up drawing politicians’ attention to illegal; immigration.

        1. he’s Stateside Rastus, on some speaking tour with Trump. Not sure why, can’t put finger on it specificlally, but I gain impression he’s planning something back here re globalists and proposed expansion and getting ducks in a row. Am sure though he was got at over Brexit involvement and for highlighting last year the immigration problems knowing he’d get the coverage

          1. His capitulation to Boris Johnson before the general election was a very serious mistake that has cost us very dear as it has led to a disastrous deal for both Northern Ireland and British fishermen. Farage should only have agreed to stand down his Brexit Party candidates in seats where the sitting Conservative was a known Brexiteer. And even then he should have made sure he had a quid pro quo from Johnson rather than Sweet Fanny Adams..

            Truth is he had Johnson by the goulies but instead of squeezing when he should have squeezed he feebly just let go.

          2. all you put is true. He’s not the type to simply back off, hence am of the view, and obviously no proof, he was “nobbled”. And with his access direct into Trump, he’ll be able to draw on leverage should he step back into the mix, accepting he’s not any desire for politiics

          3. How was he nobbled?
            Any theories?
            Blackmail – but blackmail over what?

          7. NF, UKIP, Brexit Party all were building up a head of steam and it posed a direct threat to the “system” with general public buying into it, As Geoff put below, he was enlisted as “controlled opposition” therein had to be “managed”. Details of which won’t come to light currently, but nobbled. In similar vein, you’ll recall recently Frederick Forsyth’s letter in the DT. It’s toxic content caused more than a ripple and he now has had the “mute button” pushed – another warning

    2. Because doing so is illegal.

      You wanted them, you pay for them. If you didn’t want them in your country, you shouldn’t have voted in a globalist moron.

      In reality the issues are more complicated and relate to massive subsidy, incredible largesse, easy money, political weakness and a fanatical desire to dump all the annoyance on the EU while ignoring the duties. Sadly, this is rather the stereotype of the French Brits have: not as onion sellers on bicycles in stripey t shirts, but as duty shirkers, lazy, someone else’s problem slackers.

      The comments appear to back that up.

  70. We really need an inquiry into how Sage forced Britain into lockdown

    Time is running out to learn the real lessons of the Covid response

    FRASER NELSON

    British public inquiries take years, but are normally worth the wait. Lord Denning’s report into the Profumo affair still reads like a thriller. The Chilcot inquiry on Iraq dived deep enough to uncover new horrors: that Britain tried to police Basra with just 200 troops, for example, abandoning the city to jihadi death squads. The coronavirus pandemic, the biggest calamity in our peacetime history, deserves at least the same calibre of scrutiny – even if a big inquiry is unlikely to report back before the next election.

    It’s wrong to imagine that delay suits Boris Johnson. The inquiry is likely to vindicate his suspicion that the virus could be forced back without lockdown (plenty of studies now show this was happening anyway). But the more pressing problem is that the virus (or another lurgy) might be back with us this winter – and a failure to identify the mistakes made last time now guarantees repeating them. This makes the case for a shorter inquiry, identifying the main problems.

    The case for the prosecution of Johnson is likely to be heard in a parliamentary inquiry (with Dominic Cummings as the star witness) which should bring scrutiny of the Imperial College cliff-edge hypothesis. This suggests that Covid cases surged every day until lockdown, so Prime Ministerial dither cost thousands of lives. Only when he eventually agreed to lock down on March 23, says Imperial, did cases collapse. This theory is one of the most influential ever deployed in government – and now looks as if it could be bunkum.

    We don’t have to guess anymore, given how much Covid data exists. The ONS, Zoe/King’s College, the React-2 study run by a different team at Imperial: none support Neil Ferguson’s cliff-edge theory. All show Covid cases falling before lockdowns. So what forced the virus into retreat, if not stay-at-home orders? We can look at another form of contagion: news, spread digitally. People saw how things were getting dangerous and stayed home of their own accord. This is more than theory. Mobile phone data offers rich detail of this worldwide trend.

    We can already look at America, where the states took wildly different approaches, and see the lack of correlation between lockdown stringency and virus control. Importantly, the few countries who did not lock down suffered far less death than Imperial’s models predicted. Sweden ended up with less than half the modelled death toll. Poor old Taiwan was down for 93,000 Covid deaths unless it locked down: it held its nerve and saw only a dozen fatalities.

    Which brings us to the main problem: why the Sage group of advisers ever ended up with so much power. Such models will always have monstrous error margins: how could they not? But ministers wanted to say they were being guided by “the science” and saw, in Sage, a convenient political shield. It was a political decision to stand behind a group of advisers – who had been asked to focus on only one part of a mixed crisis. It was a major failing, with huge consequences.

    The Cabinet Office, which ought to have supplied the rigour, instead served to amplify spin. Some of its internal documents, certain to come out in an inquiry, read like they’re trying to terrify the Prime Minister into locking down. He ended up making decisions on data which was often flat-out wrong – some of which fell apart under public scrutiny. What happened to quality control? A dozen Treasury civil servants, picked at random, could have solved this. Basic Whitehall scrutiny was not applied.

    Perhaps inevitably, Sage ended up succumbing to groupthink and started acting like lobbyists for lockdown. Some of its members would take to the airwaves, making the case for even more stringent action. Those who demurred were threatened with being fired (something that will also come out in due course). This points to a massive flaw: the attempted stifling of debate. Dissenting experts ought to be welcomed. Instead, they were hounded – sometimes by Tory MPs.

    What matters is that this flawed system is still in place now. We still have the Sage committee, operating in half-secrecy, calling the shots and pushing out models with a bias towards delaying the easing of lockdown. A see-no-evil approach persists on collateral damage: we still have virtually no analysis on the economic and social costs of prolonging so many aspects of lockdown. We have seen pitifully little assessments on cancer care, nor is there talk about the 20,000 pupils who have vanished from school rolls.

    It would not take long to conduct an assessment on the impact of the “protect the NHS” message and the extent to which it deterred people from seeking lifesaving care. Might this be linked to the surge in at-home deaths? The NHS itself advised against this messaging, mindful of the damage At the peak of the first wave, half of hospital beds lay empty. Had all of this been reviewed last summer, then the “protect the NHS” message might not have been repeated this time.

    Gus O’Donnell, a former civil service chief, recently put his finger on it. You can’t blame Sage: its members were only intended to be on hand to answer questions. Neil Ferguson never asked to have this influence. The Sage advice was always supposed to be fed into a higher committee that considered social and economic factors, weighed it all up and advised on options. How are ministers to make sensible decisions, without being told the costs and benefits? It was a recipe to compound a pandemic with far deeper collateral damage than was necessary.

    The Government’s own “lessons learned” exercise is unlikely to highlight all this – especially if it’s being led by the Cabinet Office, which ought to be the subject of an inquiry. It failed to put together the complete picture, didn’t ask enough questions and took a one-dimensional approach to a multi-dimensional crisis. The lessons learned from the vaccine taskforce is that it is one of the greatest successes of modern British government, and one that may yet eclipse the previous failures.

    These were the most difficult times in living memory: in the fog of viral war, huge decisions need to be made instantly. Mistakes – pretty big ones – were inevitable. At least the first time. But with the right system in place, they needn’t be next time.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/13/really-need-inquiry-sage-forced-britain-lockdown

    1. Fraser Nelson’s getting his points in early and lining them up to avoid being part of the collateral damage even he can see is coming, but won’t commit to print that Government servants / instruments jumped onto the globalist bandwagon.

      1. He is part of the Johnson/Carrion/No 10 clique. I don’t trust him an inch.

      2. Did they jump or was their conversion to globalism induced in some way?

    2. No mention of the “Great Reset”, WEF and “Build Back Better”. They are all spouting the same claptrap and expecting us to believe all countries acted as individuals.

      Too many people have bought into the fear, and even now are afraid to go out. There’s been a lot of mental health damage.

      1. Spot on, Ndovu.
        IIRC Johnson’s first “plan” was to go for herd immunity with safeguards for the vulnerable. Then, did someone, a globalist supporter whom we are probably capable of identifying thanks to photographs and statements showing this person’s admiration for Schwab, Gates and Soros get to Johnson? Whatever, here we are following the globalist script, including jabs for all. Of course, it’s most unlikely that any of this will wash out in the inquiry as the people responsible have powerful mentors to protect, as well as themselves.

        It amazes me that so many people, who should/must know better do not mention the globalist influence in all this. It’s not as if these evil-doers have kept quiet about their intentions. Johnson, ably abetted by several other very guilty people, has dug himself into a hole and is not sure how to extricate himself. SAGE is being touted as the guilty party, and to be fair they deserve all the opprobrium that will come their way, but Johnson has them as the sacrificial guilty party. Johnson is responsible and should take the fall but I feel that he will walk away with a little tarnish around the edges when in fact his weakness as a leader should ensure that he is held to account for the deaths, the lockdowns etc. His name should be used to as a guide as how not to behave as the leader of a country, whether in a crisis situation or business as usual.

    3. No mention of the “Great Reset”, WEF and “Build Back Better”. They are all spouting the same claptrap and expecting us to believe all countries acted as individuals.

      Too many people have bought into the fear, and even now are afraid to go out. There’s been a lot of mental health damage.

    4. Having the inquiry is fine. The problem is that no one actually responsible is ever found guilty: which officials in the civil service have been punished? Who in the Labour government was punished for their actions?

      Servicemen died in dreadful numbers while generals and officials filled in paper work over completely, totally the wrong types of vehicle. Why? They stood to make money out of the contract.

      All the evidence is found (that the state wants found) but NOTHING EVER CHANGES. Apologies for shouting, but nothing does. The state blunders on to the next obviously incompetent decision and no one is ever punished, no one ever held accountable. Or, if someone is, it’s a lowly innocent easily blamed to protect the well connected.

  72. Can’t post the full World Bank report but these links are sufficient : C-19 funding approved for 02 Apr 2020 – end of funding 31 Mar 2025 https://42qnyu1y6vra3adquc2fecd5-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/worldbankwow.jpg C-19 diagnostic test instruments kits approved 2018 https://42qnyu1y6vra3adquc2fecd5-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/worldbank.jpeg and C-19 test kits exported 2017 https://42qnyu1y6vra3adquc2fecd5-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/2017-1.jpg

    1. WTH? 2017? Truly alarming. How can anyone claim this is a genuine, accidental virus?

      1. mng, depends how deep you want to dig. To save some time. At Davos 2019, Covid 19 mtg between Halfock and Billy boy on 24 Jan 2019 [UK Gov basic details of confirmation https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/810587/dhsc-ministerial-transparency-returns-meetings-jan-mar-2019.csv/preview%5D In essence this was Billy boy tapping UK Govt as he got the square root of FA out of Trump. Deal signed off re Corona Act 2019 and Billy boy on the Tack and Trace gig. It also pins Whitless Whitty, one of Billy boy’s footsoldiers since 2008. Below#’s the summary c/o Cabinet Office and on Bill and Me-Linda Gates Foundation website. All this before Johnson met Billy boy in June 2020 and of course Me-Linda attending side meeting in Cornwal at G7 gig next month

        On 24 Jan- 2019, was a meeting between Matt Hancock and Bill Gates at Davos to discuss infection control at the global level; where Gates had also a meeting with Hancock’s counterparts, e.g. USA. On 24 Jan- 2019 was introduced the American version of the Corona Act: CARES Act which after multiple House meetings (HR 748) was signed for about $3 trillion on 27 March 2020.

        In August 2019, the Govt approved Bill Gates’ ‘Trace and track covid19’ App; who stated “With a good digital identity you can enjoy your rights to privacy, security, and choice.”

        In October 2019, the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security hosted a pandemic tabletop exercise called Event 201 with partners, the World Economic Forum and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation The UK Govt, as part of the Corona Act, signed about £321 billion to the big corporations and institutions which intentions were similar as that of the CARES.

        On 19 May 2020 was a meeting between the PM Boris Johnson and Bill and Melinda Gates: likely as a contineum of the forgoing issues.

        Bill Gates is for various reasons a consultant lobbyist, e.g. Chief Medical Adviser Prof Chris Whitty in 2008 accepted, $40 million from Bill
        Gates to control British vaccine promulgation. Neil Ferguson for Covid-19 mortality predictions accepted £184 million from B. Gates. Who
        created SAGE to be chaired by GSK ex-director; Patrick Vallance. Gates is the main donor & shareholder of GAVI, Welcome trust and
        Pirbright institute who patent SARS-CoV-2 and produces its vaccine. He is also the main funder of UNICEF, WHO, World Bank, DFID, DNIH, CDC, WEF, CEPI.

        Under the ‘Transparency of Lobbying Act’: consultant lobbyists and Govt advisors have to disclose the names of their ‘clients’ on a publicly available Register and to update their details on a quarterly basis (‘clients’ include what is related to advisers’ interests, benefit in kind, loyalties, and/or benefits related to their former or current employer, funder or what is related to an institution or corporation). These disclosures are kept by the Registrar of Consultant Lobbyists which is sponsored by the UK Cabinet Office. And as the Prime Minister’s Office, in order to prevent that commercial interests are not in control of key decisions about the public’s health, and to prevent that the public is not subjected to corporative interest; he must have details about his advisers’ interests, associations, and/or loyalties.

        1. Good morning,
          Thank you for taking the time to do this. Much appreciated! All deep in the whole sh*t show.

          1. no prob at all I was primed on this rising up in late 2016 after UK’s EU Referendum. At the time I thought it was waffle, and it seemed to grow its own hydra head, so started tracking it, relying on international direct links. My only quandry now is contiunually re-explaining this to Mum back in UK, but it’s not sinking in – yet.

            this may be of interest https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-2020-worldwide-corona-crisis-destroying-civil-society-engineered-economic-depression-global-coup-detat-and-the-great-reset/5730652 Prof Chossudovsky’s Canadian, ex World Bank advisor and currently nemesis of Trudeau. I met him in Nairobi years ago, he’s switched on and very good at what he does. the link’s from one domain where he’s public. Enjoy

          2. Back then, I suppose the whole stinking shebang would have seemed unbelievable in a sane world.
            If the Prof is the nemesis of trendy Trudeau, he sounds like a good guy!
            My son, being under her influence, and Canadian daughter-in-law are in thrall to Trudeau. He used to be a sensible lad, conservative with a small c.
            I see similarities between them and Ginge & Whinge.

  74. A busy day today. I’m replacing some of the 20odd years old pieces of shuttering ply on the side of the lean-to I built with some 2nd had timber many years ago and have been stripping the rotten timbers off and putting replacements in place ready for cladding that section with shiplap.
    I hadn’t actually planned doing it yet, but it became necessary when I realised another job I’m doing would be a bit easier with the ply removed!

    Something I picked up off going Postal.
    Did anyone on here know that May is Masturbation Month?
    I certainly didn’t!
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/620782585f51cc11daca62a583e4318746ee4c18cdfeb91878ad1fc1d5cf9f6b.jpg

    6. Now is the month of maying,
      When merry lads are playing,
      Fa la la la la la la la la,
      Fa la la la la la la lah.
      Each with his bonny toss
      Upon the greeny glass.
      Fa la la la la la la la la, etc…

  75. Married transgender prisoners win legal case after authorities stop them seeing one another
    The inmates, who are both convicted sex offenders, took legal action
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/14/married-transgender-prisoners-win-legal-case-authorities-stop/

    Both prisoners, who are convicted sex offenders met in HMP Whatton in 2015 and married in a civil partnership two years later.

    The 45-year-old claimant was given an Imprisonment for Public Protection (IPP) sentence in 2006 for sexually assaulting a child under 13, while her 32-year-old wife received an IPP in 2009 for possessing indecent images of children.

    The mind boggles. Who does what, and to whom?

      1. One was a cow but now she’s a bull,

        the other was a bull and now is a coo.

        1. The bull is a bull and the cow is a cow; they have merely cut and pasted their respective udders …

          D’ya udderstand ?

    1. Say it loud, say it clear,

      they’ll rape your daughters, now they’re here.

      1. part of ID2020 / 2030. Am sure you saw the links below of WB funding through to March 2025. They’ll keep the same C-19 gig but the proposed jabs with the inbuilt protein spikes are in the “pipe”. Add to likely pause on lockdown release measures to cover any dissent re G7 gig and Cyber Polygon at beginning of July, keep same “brand name” just with additions

      1. The only aircraft showing in the vicinity of Israel are on the ground at Ben Gurian by the looks of it.

      2. Swarms of aircraft coming in and taking off. The UK has borders that are open to the rest of the world , yet people who want to travel, can’t.

        1. Ah, I see but I concentrated on the three aircraft listed, all of which were in or approaching, Israel. I thought they might have been downed by terrorist rockets.

    5. By the time the Third Bus driver arrived, saying that there was still no room on that bus, the cheesecake aim was more considered and justifiably lobbed.

  81. I am off. A day of frustrations. I won’t mention WIRE but just go and bathe my bleeding hands…. It was cold and grey, too.

    There is a very good two-part documentary on PBSAmerica about archive film of India (showing how ghastly the imperialist British were, of course) but with highly educated and articulate Indian taking heads. There is a token white English woman who is awful. Think Ardern without the terrible accent.

    So, I may well be here toorrow. DV, WP.

    A demain.

    1. At 6.30 on PBS America, there is a biopic of John Philip Holland, the Irish-American inventor of the submarine …

    2. Followed by the American history of the civil war in what was Yugoslavia. Dreadful accents. Even allowing for that, it is nearly incomprehensible.

    1. Don’t forget to close your eyes Granny, before you shoot. (haha).

      I’ll get me hooks…

  84. Just picked up this summary from Lockdown Sceptics re deaths taking the jab. In a kind and benevolent World these potions would be done away with along with those who promote them.

    B.F.Finlayson
    4 hours ago

    Jabeat emptor :the latest MHRA yellow card figures are now available up to 6th May 2021: https://yellowcard.ukcolumn.org/yellow-card-reports
    Concentrating only on vaxx deaths:

    Pfizer has increased from 347 (21/04) to 364 (28/04) to 370 (06/05)*
    AZ has increased from 685(21/04) to 722 (28/04) to 756 (06/05)*
    Moderna stays the same on 2*
    Unspecified has increased from 13 (21/04) to 14 (28/04) to 15 (06/05)*

    Total reported vaxx deaths have increased from 1047 (21/04) to 1102 (28/104) to 1143 (06/05)*
    Increase between 21/04 to 28/04 = 55 (approx 8 deaths per day)*
    Increase between 28/04 to 06/05 = 41 (approx 6 deaths per day)*

    (*) The government caveat that applies to MHRA figures is that they are subject to up to 90% under-reporting error, so the reported figures underestimate the actual figures by a factor of 10. Thus potentially (according to government figures and caveats) the actual figure of total vaxx deaths now potentially stands over 11,000.

    1. The time to be worrying is 12/18 months down the line; it will be too much AND too little, too late.

      If these vaccines are not what we are told they are, 12/18 months is when we’ll start to be seeing the initial problems.

      The real hardcore problems will start to appear 10 years from now, more or less.

      1. I had the first one. I have an appointment for the second. Then i hear i might need boosters. Then do home testing twice a week.

        That’s me finished. Fuck’em.

        1. I will have the jabs.

          ONLY because HG wants me to, and she (probably incorrectly) hopes that if we do, we might actually be able to see our grandchildren.

          I’m becoming resigned to the thought that I will never see them again, in the flesh.

          If we never see them again, and HG dies before I do; the Sage people and the politicians had better have very good security.

          1. I am travelling to see my father. The cost of the journey is approximately doubled (by teh cost of useless covid tests going into the pockets of government cronies), but it is possible at the moment. None of us are vaccinated, but he is. If he wasn’t, it would be entirely his decision whether we came or not.
            Last year, we travelled in summer, and lived in the garden for a week – we also didn’t share bathrooms.

          3. It is more than crazy. I’ve just forked out hundreds of pounds because of useless laws passed by fools and knaves. To say that I am angry is an understatement.

          4. I am travelling to see my father. The cost of the journey is approximately doubled (by teh cost of useless covid tests going into the pockets of government cronies), but it is possible at the moment. None of us are vaccinated, but he is. If he wasn’t, it would be entirely his decision whether we came or not.
            Last year, we travelled in summer, and lived in the garden for a week – we also didn’t share bathrooms.

          5. Same here. Husband is all in favour but I only took the jabs in the hope of seeing little grandchildren in Canada. The longer term risk of these devil jabs terrifies me – not so much for my old self but for my adult offspring. When I heard the overseas son telling one of his little ones that they would get jabs soon (it’s Canada so not imminent!), my blood ran cold.
            Being kept away from family breaks my heart.

          6. Forget Canada this year. Some areas might be pumping out vaccinations to all and sundry but in much of rural Canada, they are only just getting round to first vaccinations for people in the 50+ age range.

            Our dear leader has offered to lift some lockdown restrictions this summer if we are all good and get vaccinated.

          7. Son had his first jab but only because he works in a hospital. As family of a permanent resident, we could, in theory, be allowed in but with compulsory (and pricey) hotel quarantine at your end, testing, masked for many hours in plane and airports, and potentially excessive border queues – no thanks!

        2. In Israel we are using exclusively Pfizers vaccine, our Ministry of Health has after examining the data on those over 16’s vaccinated with both doses since Dec.2020 determined that a booster shot will not be needed for a year thus making getting another dose similar to the annual Flu vaccination programme which usually begins in October each year ( I get one every year & had the last one in Dec.2020 ) & there is no testing requirement at all here for the vaccinated with the exception of those travelling abroad for whom a negative COVID-19 PCR test result taken within 72 hours prior to the due time of departure is required irrespective of being vaccinated or not or recovered from Covid-19 & subsequently un-vaccinated

          1. But Hancock, Whitless and Doris, following the ‘science’, natch, say we will need boosters in the Autumn. They are so trustworthy it must be ok …..
            Israel clearly has more sense.

          2. I doubt if you have the level of data that we have collected since Dec.2020 on the effectiveness of the Pfizer vaccine & in Israel the 2nd dose is given 21 days after the 1st unlike in the UK where that is not the case & some of the population receives Pfizer, others Moderna & others Astra Zeneca vaccines which makes data collection and comparison much harder especially since the longer time delays between the 1st & 2nd dose.

          3. Israel’s vaccination policy seems to be more coordinated than here.
            Goodnight friend!

        3. This drive to get everyone to do these tests twice weekly is so pointless, not to mention wasteful. I refuse to do any tests unless required for travel overseas. Even then, being fully jabbed should negate the need.

          2. But, but, but, this is just conspiracy theory …. Doris and his fellow evils say so.

      2. The Fauci Epsilon Semi-Moron is saying that the vaccinated are not required to wear masks unless in crowded areas. Presumably, if the vaccinated are no longer at risk of catching the virus (by having gained immunity) then there is no need for them to wear masks in any environment.

        Likewise if the vaccinated are safe from contracting the virus (with its supposed grant of immunity) then the unvaccinated are safe from the vaccinated and likewise may choose not to wear masks.

        The contradictions in the ‘scientific’ Covid response would be hilarious but regrettably these fools are unable to admit to their idiocy.

        1. It is so crazy.
          One wonders how they even manage to tie their own shoelaces.

      3. I haven’t worried about either having or not having the jab since I read Dr Yeadon’s and other leading scientists’ appreciations of the potential for harm that the jabs provide. I decided back then not to have the jab. Further concerns from eminent people in the medical field have reinforced my view not to have it.

        Most recently, Dr Bhakdi’s explanations of how the potions “work” in relation to the body’s system should concern anyone considering taking the jab. My position is that nobody knows what the short-medium, medium and long term effects could be. From what I’ve read there is a threat from the wild virus, or a close relative virus, causing problems.

        1. I agree, but as my family is in Australia and England and the only way it is likely that we will be allowed to travel again is if vaccinated, then I’m stuck with it.
          My hope is that if there is a truly adverse reaction down the line that I may get a chance at revenge before it kills/incapacitates me.

          Sod’s law will probably mean that only those unvaccinated will be permitted to travel if the threat from the wild becomes real.

    2. Can you explain to me why total report figures are so much lower than the total reaction figures?

      Something doesn’t look right there. Is there another link?

      1. Multiple reactions with each recipient of the jab?
        Our own Belle sadly reported her reactions. A friend of mine has suffered with three reactions: injected arm extremely sore for days and fatigue/falling asleep during the day that lasted for weeks after first jab. After the second jab, falling asleep during the day and bloody blotches under the skin. The blotches have disappeared and the fatigue is easing.

        NHS issues weekly reports e.g.

        Covid-19 adverse reactions

  86. C4 News. I only caught a couple of segments about 10 minutes in. First was an epidemiologist somewhat tearfully warning about the exponential spread of the Indian variant Covid. Cancel everything and lockdown tight, I think.The following segment was about the damage that Israel is doing to the people the Palestine area, killing whole families etc. Also, why is the US not doing something about it?
    Fear and doom.

    2. I hear a garbled Allan’s Snackbar – these people are truly brainwashed.

  89. As I watch the invasion of immigrants on their rubber boats, I can’t help wondering who would know if they were all shot and the deaths recorded as Covid.

    1. 200 a day at the moment and as was seen in the Med from the African coast in the last 5 years. Expect that figure by times 10 this year and by 40 next year.

      I would grow bananas except for the fact that they would steal them.

      Arm yourself.

  90. It’s official, Things must be getting really bad, I had more calls this week wanting to discuss my vaccination plans than I had emails asking me to have a smart meter fitted.

  91. Planning law is unlikely to be headline news, as IDS acknowledges with his anorak remark, but it is hugely important – for the reason he omits to mention.

    Five million EU citizens have applied for settlement. Then there’s Hong Kong, which much of England will soon resemble.

    Welcome to the Tower of Babel!

    Boris’s ludicrous planning policy threatens to derail the Tory party in his heartlands

    Local residents will be left with no say over new developments

    IAIN DUNCAN SMITH

    Scratch beneath the surface, and you don’t have to look hard to find evidence that concerns about inappropriate local development may already be harming Tory electoral chances, particularly in the South East. Although last week’s local elections were an overall success, worryingly, we saw a series of surprising losses in once safe seats. These voters are often denounced as Nimbys, but the truth is that the vast majority of people accept the need for new homes. They are justifiably angry, however, when that development comes at the expense of existing residents, and when they feel like they have no control over what is happening to their local area.

    Now, the Government plans a major shake-up of the planning laws on top of countless other reforms in recent years. I know that changes to planning policy are normally something only an anorak-wearer would find interesting. Yet these plans, heralded in the Queen’s Speech this week, are enormously important. And unless their deficiencies and existing problems are addressed, I fear that they will not only result in yet more inappropriate development but will further undermine public support, including in once rock-solid Conservative areas.

    Just consider what has been happening in constituencies like mine, in London’s outer boroughs. Over the past few years, local authorities in the capital have been hurling a barrage of plans for tall buildings at areas that are otherwise dominated by family homes. Too many councils see the suburbs as a lot of wasted space which should be filled in via densification.

    At present, their plans to build tall buildings regardless of the impact are being fought by local residents, whose reasonable wish is simply to retain the character of their homes, which they worked hard for and which they want to bring their families up in. Their ask to the Government is to find ways to accommodate their concerns. Current rules allow them to object to development plans, but this doesn’t always succeed even when the council is reasonable.

    Instead of protecting those under the cosh, however, the Government’s proposals could make the present situation worse. That’s because the legislation proposed in the Queen’s Speech could see local input into planning decisions removed for areas newly-designated in England as Growth Zones. In these zones, that democratic involvement in the planning system could be tossed to one side.

    This would leave local residents with no say over new developments, as there would be no planning application to object to.

    Ah, we are reassured, such actions would be protected by the local plan, which residents would have the right to help shape. Yet central government will reserve the right in future to reject and override any local plan if it deems that there is not enough development in a particular area. In fact, they could create an incentive for determined developers to seek judicial reviews to ensure that the land they want developed is included in such a Growth Zone.

    Add to that the proposal for “General Development Management Policies” to be set nationally and we are verging on an unprecedented centralisation of powers over planning. I worry that such a move would accelerate the process to build many high-density building projects, as well as other building that is out of character with local areas, some even previously blocked by residents.

    And this isn’t even to mention the proposals to extend personal development rights (PDRs), which will allow commercial premises to be turned into flats. This further erodes local influence over development, as these PDRs allow developers to retain the right to build upwards and with little required infrastructure.

    Ministers have previously shown that they are willing to listen to concern about their plans. When they heard from the public and backbench MPs that an algorithm they had proposed for determining where new development should take place would have been mechanistic and ill-focused, they dropped those plans. Now they need to listen again.

    We can all agree that there is a need to overhaul the planning rules, not least to ensure the greater use of brown field sites for development. We all want many more people to enjoy the security of home ownership. And one way we truly could kick-start the building programme would be to make developers build out the permissions they already have and ensure that they start on-site work within two years or their permission would lapse.

    Yet the planning rules need to be carefully thought-through without risking a politically dangerous backlash. Even now residents feel under huge pressure from unwanted and unwarranted development. Let us not make a bad situation even worse.

    Sir Iain Duncan Smith is MP for Chingford and Woodford Green, and a former leader of the Conservative Party

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/14/boriss-ludicrous-planning-policy-threatens-derail-tory-party

    1. So if I understand it correctly, this doesn’t mean that the normal householder will be able to build a granny flat, but it does mean that big developers will get their proposals waved through without any tiresome objections from the little people?
      Kerching!

  92. Just had an email from someone in Germany.
    Vaccinated children and children who have had a positive PCR test within the last six months, are to be exempt from the requirement for twice-weekly swab testing.
    Also, if the schools are put on half-half, (half at home, half in the classroom), the special group will be allowed to attend school all the time, whereas the non-persons will have to stay at home for half the week.
    Less education for the filthy unwashedunvaccinated!

    I give it five minutes before the teachers start telling parents they can’t do the extra work of setting and marking stuff for the kids at home.

  93. Am I alone in reckoning that there is a tremendous amount of euphemism surrounding the whole subject of “Indian Variant” ,,,, I keep hearing that it’s affecting people living in multi-generational households often loving in cramped conditions, it’s affecting “certain areas” (and not others) and Blackburn and Bolton (and other NW towns) are noted hotspots.

    I notice that the following words are NEVER used: Pakistan, Pakistani, muslim, islam.

    2. Neither is the word “China” used to describe the virus!
      How can people carry on living in something so unbelievable as mainstream media reality without spotting the flaws and inconsistencies?

  94. Oh gawd! Just flicked through HIGNFY to find Bames a plenty and, Jo Brand. Haven’t watched it for a while because its not very funny any more. But with Brand in there, its more like the Horror Channel.

  96. Damask Rose
    I have just had an email from Damask Rose – quite a few of you have expressed concern, not having seen a post from her for a while. She would like you to know that she has moved, about an hour from where she was living previously. She has wonky wi-fi at the moment, it hasn’t settled down yet in its new abode – she wrote a comment to post here and it disappeared. Rose also said she was tired from the move, and that she is touched by your concern.

    2. I’m glad to have heard that she’s OK! Moving, urgh. Very tiring indeed.

    3. Hello Pm

      I was under the impression that DR didn’t want to move , I hope she wasn’t forced out , and if she is an hour from where she was originally, I guess she must be somewhere outside of Bath.

      Poor girl.

      1. Good morning, Belle – no she wasn’t forced out as such, I don’t think she liked the direction of plans in the environment around. She was pleased to leave and is happy with her new home.

  97. Evening, all. I notice from my local rag that Bojo is gearing up to backtrack on letting us loose in June. Well, I never! Whoda thunk it? Well, most people on here, I suspect.

    1. Good night Tom (and all NoTTLers). After working in my garden all day (six and a half hours) the transformation is remarkable. If, as predicted, it rains all day on Saturday and Sunday, then I shall relax with a clear conscience.

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