767 thoughts on “Monday 30 September: History exposes the hypocrisy of Remainer attacks on Boris Johnson”

  2. What happened to the convention that opposing parties didn’t promote spoiling political stunts while party conferences were on?

    1. Are you referring to the once civilised country known as Britannia?
      At one with Nineveh and Tyre, I’m afraid.

      1. Far-called, our navies melt away;
        On dune and headland sinks the fire:
        Lo, all our pomp of yesterday
        Is one with Nineveh and Tyre!
        Judge of the Nations, spare us yet,
        Lest we forget—lest we forget!

        Kipling. Recessional.

          1. On the bright side;

            And a voice valedictory…. Who is for Victory?
            Who is for Liberty? Who goes home?

    2. Are you referring to the once civilised country known as Britannia?
      At one with Nineveh and Tyre, I’m afraid.

  3. ‘Morning All

    “The Polar Bears in the Antarctic are DYING”

    Yup,that’s the quality of the climate propaganda that’s being fed to the children in our schools around the world.

    Once again I am grateful to Sky news Australia for a few facts and calling out the bolleux of the globalist agenda,see for yourselves

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-VeV2qNCZ4

        1. That would be the polar bears who are too weak to survive but manage to charter transport from North to South Pole. 🙂

          4. Luxury yachts are brilliant for this. Not only is it environmentally sustainable transport, the crew provides ready meals on the way.

        2. That would be the polar bears who are too weak to survive but manage to charter transport from North to South Pole. 🙂

  4. We may not like the thought, but we have a national and moral obligation to bring the Isil children back to Britain. IAN ACHESON. 30 SEPTEMBER 2019 .

    Tooba Gondal is a British citizen and, if she is to be believed, a formerly ardent supporter of the Islamic State death cult, who is currently in detention in Kurdish-controlled Syria. Her case, highlighted in the media this weekend, is a familiar one. This one-time poster girl for Daesh now recants her involvement in the glorification of religious murder and begs to be returned to the United Kingdom with her two young children to face justice.

    No we don’t. If we had sent her there we would have a moral obligation to bring her back to the UK but she went of her own accord. As to her recantation we can safely dismiss that for what it is. A blatant self-serving lie!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/09/30/may-not-like-thought-have-national-moral-obligation-bring-isil/

    3. I note the article is bravely not open for comment
      I wonder why??
      The real problem is of course the hundreds of loathesome jihadis we have allowed to return already
      ‘Morning Minty

      1. The problem of fifth columnists has existed since at least the time of the Trojans, and even the temptation of Eve might well be a warning about submitting ourselves to bad religion.

      2. Simply answer we buy a bit of land off of the Kurdish controlled bit of Syria and call it a British dependency. They can go there when they finish their prison sentences

    4. Didn’t she renounce her citizenship? What does international law say about those that do this? Or become naturalised a citizen of another country, which then ceases to be, such as the Islamic State Caliphate? Does their citizenship revert to that which they renounced, does this person become stateless, or does this person become the subject of whatever power brought about this extinction of nationality in any way it deems fit?

      It is hardly fair to land the Kurds with the job of waste disposal, saving the rest of us the bother of having to process toxic human landfill, and I do feel we owe it to the Kurds to help them out here.

      1. Morning Jeremy. I cannot imagine why you think that we owe the Kurds anything at all let alone taking on a toxic creature like this for our own discomfiture. Knowing you I sense that this is more in the nature of sin eating than the practicalities of the world!

        1. It was the Kurds who did the heavy lifting in ridding the world of this menace. What thanks have they got for their efforts, apart from this constant harrying from Erdogan?

          1. Anyone who knows anything about the Middle East knew that the Kurds would be shafted as soon as ISIS was defeated! This time they were betrayed by the Americans! It has nothing to do with us!

          2. I understand there are around 60million Kurds who exist without a recognised country to call their own. Sounds a bit like the future of Great Britain…..

      3. In these situations they become Tom Hanks and have to look for a friendly no man’s land such as an airport terminal, although they will never be allowed on a plane.

      4. I’m quite certain the Government could help the Kurds out by donating a couple of boxes of 9mm Ball.

    7. ‘Morning, Minty. I know not who, or what, Acheson is, but I think it is a fair assumption that he is barking mad.

    1. Science does no such thing in either case, and the entire meme here is nonsense.

      Recent abnormal climate change has been demonstrated beyond reasonable doubt, but that proves nothing. We have a pretty shrewd idea what’s causing it, but it is devilishly complex, bringing in a whole nest of feedbacks and mitigations that are impossible to get into a soundbite fit for Twitter minds.

      Gender as a linguistic definition has at least three in most languages, including our own (masculine, feminine and neuter). As a social definition, it can be moulded according to the whims of a culture and could mean anything. Biologically, we are a sexual species and in ours, the delineation between male and female is pretty obvious, except in the minds of the confused.

      1. People get even the most basic science wrong. One of my particular hobby horses is the claim that “rising CO2 levels are warming the oceans”, whereby demonstrable science tells you that gases are more soluble in cold water than warm water, hence the rising CO2 levels are a result of warming NOT the cause.
        At the most basic level, think of opening a lemonade bottle which is warm – the CO2 gas is all released suddenly as the solubility has decreased. Contrast with opening a refrigerated lemonade bottle which will open with barely a “Psssst” as the gas remains in the liquid at the lower temperature.

        1. Core ice samples have shown that CO2 increase followed warming. They have the cart before the horse.

        2. The principle being applied is the Greenhouse Effect, whereby a number of gases (and CO2 is by no means the worst – methane is far more potent, as is that gas they use to protect circuits in power stations) trap heat in the atmosphere, preventing it radiating out into space. This is what causes the global warming, so it is argued.

          It is the melting of glaciers and permafrost near the Poles that is causing freshwater that had been locked up and piled up as ice to discharge into the sea. Enough of it, and global sea level will rise.

          What CO2 dissolved in water does do is to acidify it. Pure Carbonic Acid (H2CO3) has a pH of 4.3, but of course fizzy water is very dilute, so the pH is only lowered a bit. Even a modest acidification of the oceans causes stress to calcium-based life forms, such as coral and shellfish, since their shells are being softened or even dissolved.

      2. So what you are saying is that the meme is only incorrect because of the word “gender”, but that if it were to be replaced by “sex” it would be correct?

        1. Not quite. Science observes; it struggles to prove anything. That is the job of lawyers. What American celebs have to do with it, I don’t know.

    2. Climate has always changed. What does she imagine the ice ages were? There is no scientific evidence that the human contribution to the 0.04% of the vital trace gas CO2 has any capacity to so disturb the atmosphere that we should take to the streets in hysterical mode so as to mitigate its effect. It’s a fraud of monumental size,draining money from projects that might ease poverty.

      1. Of course climate has always changed,that’s exactly why when M Moore and his “Hockey Stick” of Global Warming were utterly discredited (See Canadian court case for details) the climate cultists had to change the name
        I’m still waiting for the explanation of what “Man Made Event” melted the mile or so of ice that once covered Scotland……………..

        1. While we were in the Peak District, we inevitably visited caverns.
          Caverns made by melting ice which swirled through weak spots in the rocks like water draining from a bath.
          You can still see the ‘swirl patterns’ in the caves. Very impressive and very scary at the same time.

        2. The MacTavishes sent round the “fiery cross” to start fights so often that the whole place was raised above freezing, slightly.

      2. It’s the timescale that is bothering scientists.

        It’s one thing for climate to change over a few centuries and you are right that there always have been such variations. It is also true that there can be short-term phases – the El Nino/La Nino alternations in the Pacific are well known. So too is the abnormally wet period that led Australians to ignore Goyder and set up farms beyond his line of viability, only to be ruined when patterns reverted to normal.

        What we are seeing today though is a sustained heating of the planet where nearly all of the warmest years on record (which now spans over a century) had been in the last decade, and glaciers that have been there for millennia are vanishing, with the implications that has for fresh water supplies in the tropics and elsewhere.

        They are more concerned about the release of methane from Russian bogs previously locked up by permafrost. As concerns CO2, the destruction of the great forests is what will tip the whole cycle into disarray, with who knows what consequences as 7.7 billion people adapt by mass migration.

        1. Sorry Jeremy every single climate alarmist claim from their “Models” has turned out to be utterly baseless,I give you
          The Maldives will be under water
          Artic ice will vanish by 2013
          Polar bears will be extinct
          Seas will rise 20 feet

          You mentioned the dangers of false religion,perhaps we ought to look what the great prophets of this cult actually DO
          Obama,15 million estate ON THe COAST
          Al Gore major estate ON THE COAST
          Not much fear of rising water there

          1. Being out by a few decades is not quite the same as being utterly baseless.

            It’s the Solomon Islands whose soils have turned brackish with rising sea level, killing the trees.

            Polar bears that are smarter than the average bear are wandering south and breeding with grizzlies, creating a new hybrid – the pizzlie, which combines the evolutionary advantage of both in changing conditions. They might even do their bit for the planet by eating people.

            I really don’t care where rich Americans choose to live. Didn’t the really smart set choose Malibu and see their grand mansions burn to the ground?

        2. The real point is keeping the planet green. We need to stop the ruthless, irreversible and needless destruction of forests.
          Other priorities include reducing the use of plastics by 90%, and stopping the waste of rare earths on trivia such as mobile phones
          Worrying about CO2 is unnecessary.

          1. I agree entirely. Any concerns about excessive CO2 caused by burning fossil fuels are well mitigated by boosting the growth of trees, which lock up carbon. This requires first off that the trees are not cut down and burnt, and secondly that they have the water and sunlight they need to photosynthesise.

        3. Morning, JM.
          In the late Middle Ages, the climate changed from relatively benign to the Little Ice Age over a period of about a century.
          Many Nordics who had settled in Greenland (hence the name) died because the crops failed and the settlers were wearing wool rather than clothes made from animal skins.

          1. Oh no! I did not know that! Oh, horrors. I only have one sheepskin jacket. Most of my clothes are wool, and cotton (and silk, but you don’t need to know that). The Sultana demurred when I wished to buy a complete bearskin outfit at an auction. Oh, what a mistake. It was perfect for me, long coat, just the right size, complete with hat and paws. Maybe slightly scratchy, but just the thing for a Scottish Summer. or annual Little Ice Ages, as we call them up here.

          2. Do you remember the Afghan coats that were all the rage during the 1960 and 70S?
            They stunk to high heaven when it rained.
            In a couple of thousand years time, archeologists will be able to date to the decade a certain stratum of old rubbish tips as it will be solid with Afghan coats.

          3. Evidence from archeology shows evidence of butchery on the bones of dogs – they were forced to kill and eat their working animals.

  7. Morning

    SIR – Sir John Major would do well to remember his own failings – particularly his deafness to the will of the majority on Brexit and his Machiavellian role in Margaret Thatcher’s downfall (report, September 28) – before he and his fellow Remainers cast aspersions on the private morals and political strategies of the Prime Minister. Boris Johnson is fighting against their undemocratic attempts to thwart the wishes of the people.

    Anthony Snook
    Petworth, West Sussex

    SIR – I was surprised to see you make so much of a claim in Charles Moore’s seminal three-volume biography of Mrs Thatcher that John Major had played a decisive role in her downfall (report, September 28).

    Having interviewed all key players for my biography of Major when memories were still fresh, it was clear she was on the way out without any touch of the tiller from Major. Yet the fiction that he had stabbed her in the back was allowed to grow, and played its part in poisoning her attitude to her successor. By doing so, she added nothing to her stature as one of Britain’s greatest peacetime prime ministers. Indeed, her chancellorship of the university I head, where she was a hugely supportive and much-loved figure, was one of the few highlights of her sad twilight years.

    Sir Anthony Seldon
    Vice Chancellor, University of Buckingham

    SIR – I recall John Major saying: “Don’t bind my hands when I am negotiating on behalf of the British nation.”

    Paul Bonny
    London NW5

      1. I think people prefer the fact that Boris does not pretend to be anything other than a sexually incontinent fornicator.

        On the other hand John Major claimed to be a keen advocate of fidelity in marriage while being a faithless adulterer.

        The fact that he was so hypocritically unfaithful to the long-suffering Norma makes one think of him as a nasty deceitful little worm. No wonderf he is a surrender remainer.

  8. Morning again

    SIR – If Tesco can air-freight blueberries from Chile and peaches from South Africa, I am sure we can get medicines (report, September 27) from nearby European countries in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

    The NHS is an essential market for European suppliers and they will enure the flow of goods is maintained.

    The illogical threat of a supply problem is another nasty element of Project Fear, ruthlessly intended to cause worry to vulnerable people.

    Philip Leonard
    Tidenham, Gloucestershire

    1. The early bug catches the medicine.

      GP practices in town are dishing out bugs so that the recipients, when they get the lurgy, can get the medicines they need before the end of next month.

      Clever, eh?

      Morning Epi.

  9. This transgender nonsense has to be challenged…….

    SIR – The High Court ruling by Sir Andrew McFarlane against Freddy McConnell (report, September 26) points to the growing need to challenge transgender ideology.

    It follows the admission by Christopher Dummitt, gender historian and pioneer of gender theory, that he had “basically just made it up”, published in Quillette earlier this month.

    The astonishing failure of any of his peers to challenge a nonsensical ideology led not only to the ludicrous High Court case but also to the misuse of medical resources and the blighting of the lives of hundreds of young people and their parents, who have been bullied, manipulated and misled by transgender ideologists.

    The lack of any critical appraisal by Parliament or the Church indicates gullibility and incompetence on a breathtaking scale. When can we expect a sensible, open, public debate, informed by reliable facts?

    Dr W R Parker
    Lowestoft, Suffolk

      1. Except the progressives and new world order globalists all support McFarlane’s ideology but they do not support the MMR doctor’s concerns.
        I note that nobody seems to know what is causing so many young children to develop all these mental and allergy problems soon after having the injection and we keep getting project fear over the threat of measles like we get for climate change.

        1. I suspect there may be a problem linked to injecting so many ghastly diseases into babies and small children in such quick succession.
          They are treated like pin cushions and I’m not sure their immune systems can cope with such a barrage of pathogens over a relatively short period.
          Morning, B3.

          3. It is just reinforcing what the body tends to do naturally. It just injects a small amount of the disease into the body to build up immunity to it

          4. The MMR jab injects small amounts of three diseases. We did not have our children immunised via MMR. The inoculations were done separately.

          8. There weren’t so many jabs in our childhood.
            And there was discretion in their usage.
            I wasn’t inoculated against TB because I had jaundice as a baby. The doctors thought it was wiser to hold back, even though my father had the disease.
            I was inoculated during the Bradford scare and boy, did I react to it!

          9. Agreed – I was being facetious. I had small pox vaccination and a jab against diphtheria. Aged seven, I had a single jab against tetanus, typhoid and yellow fever (prior to going to Egypt). Gosh, was I poorly.

          13. I had chicken pox when I was 12 and mumps when I was 25. That was extremely painful and unpleasant. I had a three year old and a three month old baby and they both had it too. It left me with a long depresion.

          14. My immune system (as I was living in the country with animals and getting very dirty) worked overtime. I had the test for the BCG – came up like a volcano. Ditto for I think it was measles. Also smallpox. Had a diptheria jab when I was a baby and possibly also one for scarlet fever (my mother had a dose of that). Had various tetanus jabs over the years of being around horses and rabies and hepatitis inoculations when I went to the Gobi.

          15. I didn’t get the TB jab becuse I had a reaction to the Heaf test adminstered a week or so prior to the vaccinations.
            Since then I’ve discovered through family history research that my grandfather and many other relatives died of TB. Of my Gt grandmother’s five children, only one survived to his 90s (as she did) – the others all died of TB, as did several of her siblings.

            I guess there is truth in the saying – “what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger”.

      2. Well the LGBT brigade both claim people are born gay and cannot change whilst at the same time people can change their gender at whim. The two things rather contradict each other

  10. SIR – Tom Watson, Labour’s deputy leader, accused the Conservative Party of being a “sinister extremist sect”.

    While in the Intelligence Corps, 
I was deployed to Afghanistan. I saw with my own eyes what sinister extremists do, and it was not campaign for limited government, low taxes and opportunity for all.

    Stephen James
    Folkestone, Kent

    1. Aren’t you forgetting something? Humbugs at Christmas is so dastardly damnable, such a thing cannot be mentioned without evoking the wrath of Parliament.

    2. That would be the sinister, extremist sect containing Britten, Brammall and Proctor.
      Should we also include Cliff Richard?
      Morning, Epidermoid.

        1. I believe that he, W.H. Auden, Olivia Colman and the current England scrum half, Ben Youngs, went to the school where your MR used to teach though she only taught the rugby player and not the composer, the poet nor the actress.

    1. “But then Paula Sheriff [Labour MP with a face full of hate] decided to up the rhetorical ante by going full Jo Cox. Jo Cox was, of course, the Labour MP tragically murdered in the streets by a mentally ill man with far-right sympathies during the Brexit referendum campaign. Labour has been attempting to pin the blame for this on Brexit and Brexiteers ever since.”

      I have witnessed several Labour MP’s bring the death of Jo Cox out of the drawer when they have lost the argument they are having. They use her death as a “Trump card” to stop debate and it is sickening. They then pretend to take great offence when someone will not be vanquished by such a disgusting move and continues to win the argument. Jess Phillips (MP) is a nasty example of this.

      They really are a party that is lost in the far-left wilderness again, clutching at any straw that they can to hide how empty their ideology is. There was a phrase that brought Monty Python to mind when you heard it, from their King Arthur film. It is now in the playbook for Labour when they lose the debate:

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2980afa19712b5f6ad0fdf58bab6898770c769162c914f178857b7de1f23bc17.jpg

  12. Our Remain Parliament seem far more concerned about minor name calling what could happen to them than they do about what is really happening to people getting murdered on our streets every day.

  13. Talking of Brexit – here is an article written by a neighbour who farms in North Norfolk:

    Last month 20 Swiss farmers came to see what a small mixed farm in Norfolk looked like. Or
    at least I thought we were small, until they told me a large farm in Switzerland is 35ha
    (80acres). Some had other interests but everyone seemed to be happily making a reasonable
    living. We obviously discussed crops and prices. Apparently some sugar beet is hauled 700km
    from Northern Germany to Switzerland, all by train, and any sugar beet more than 30km from
    the factory is put on a train which travels at night. The average beet travel in this country is
    less than 25miles. We looked at cattle and discovered many similarities, on care, breeding and
    stockmanship the exception is price. Swiss beef price is more than three times our price. On
    delving deeper it appears that Swiss government policy is to protect food supplies by
    supporting the producers. Maintaining a beet factory and hauling beet a long way
    demonstrates how seriously this policy is taken.

    The biggest problem our Swiss friends complained about is having the EU next door which
    they feel is intent on destroying Swiss industry and agriculture, through aggressive trade. The
    Swiss are taking a very keen interest in the progress of Brexit, desperate for Britain to leave
    what they feel is a corrupt and belligerent trading block using the financially stricken Euro to
    bring down their economy. They hope when Britain leaves it will force some reality into the
    thinking of the EU, and other countries surrounding them may be empowered to leave as well.
    Which all came as quite a surprise to us! I hadn’t realised Switzerland has a sugar beet
    factory.

    1. If you don’t want to join them, beet them.

      What baffles me about the Swiss is that they’ve an EU border all around yet still manage.

      Morning Bill.

      2. Well if you believe the scare stories of the MP’s . Switzerland must be surrounded by thousands of Lorries queuing up to get in

    3. Not Robin Page by any chance?
      For all the excellent work he has done in the past, he seems to have been squeezed out of any debate on the countryside.

  14. Good morning thinkers

    On many really formal occasions years ago , you may not be surprised to hear I have had my bottom squeezed , my thigh felt , and footsie games under the dining table .. such were arrangements at formal dinner parties where husbands and wives not necessarily sat together .. A certain ex Tory leader even stroked my arm .. and what a devilish twinkle he had in his eyes..

    Was I embarrassed by any of those experiences , of course not .. should I have been, well perhaps I was a little coy .. An unwanted hand on one’s thigh warrants a sharp nip of the finger nails on the back of the offenders hand .. there are subtle ways .

    Of course , when alcohol flows freely , male abullience is free flowing.. Years ago , conversation was more fun than it is now , one could actually flirt safely and happily .

    I suspect Charlotte Edwardes has never ever had a hand on her thigh recently .. and the memory she had of Boris over 20 years ago proves what a spiteful bitter frigid woman she has become .

    1. She is a left wing journalist keen to smear Boris and keen to invent a story. I am sure there will be more stories of this type being trotted out

    2. “A certain ex Tory leader even stroked my arm .. and what a devilish twinkle he had in his eyes..”
      We can be certain it wasn’t Edward Heath.
      That would be John Major. He was notorious for his arm stroking and eyeing up the laydees.
      Morning, Belle.

      1. Morning Anne

        You are getting close , neither of them nor was it IDS either !

        (I wasn’t boasting or telling salacious tales.. appeared to be just a tactile individual)

        1. In the past this sort of thing would be called flirting and if the woman did not want the attention the man would be told in no uncertain terms. Now female snowflake claim they are traumatised by it

        2. Alec Douglas Home?
          William Hague (but you don’t resemble Lord Coe).
          David Cameron; don’t let Sam know.
          Obviously not Maggie.
          Edit: cripes, we’re not going back as far as MacMillan, Eden or Churchill, are we?

        3. Alec Douglas Home?
          William Hague (but you don’t resemble Lord Coe).
          David Cameron; don’t let Sam know.
          Obviously not Maggie.
          Edit: cripes, we’re not going back as far as MacMillan, Eden or Churchill, are we?

          5. Morning, M.

            But he has something of the night about him.

            Anne Widdecombe told me that during pillow talk! 🥺

          8. M H… you know, and he had a twinkle .. I was part of a group he spoke to after an Any Questions radio recording . He was utterly charming and amiable to everyone , men and women present .

    3. Marr himself was photographed with his hand inside a lady producer’s jeans. A pity nobody mentioned this as he was pontificating on the question of Boris on Radio 4 this morning.

  15. Well later today when the MP’s turn up at Westminster They only do about a 3.5 day week Things may kick off again as the Remainer MP’s assisted by the Speaker try to come up with new ways to try to derail Brexit

  17. This week LBC’s Nick Ferrari is exposing one of the people smuggling gangs in Dunkirk that relies on support in London and Birmingham. An undercover team met a smuggler in a wooded area adjacent to an Auchan shopping park. The price is £7,000 per person with 10 to 15 people per boat.
    David Wood, former Deputy Head of Border Force was critical of intercepting the boats and then landing the occupants in the UK, from which the illegals are rarely removed, “They have succeeded.”
    Wood believes that landing them back in France would create problems for the smugglers as disagreements over the money would arise and as the success rate tumbles fewer illegals would be prepared to attempt the crossing. Not exactly rocket science but getting our PTB to take the obvious action and protect our borders appears impossible.
    Tomorrow Ferrari looks at the local French authorities’ and police’s alleged collusion in the smuggling.

    1. I have been reading ‘The Politically Incorrect Guide to Climate Change’ by Marc Morano, a book suggested around August 19th on this blog. Point by point he destroys the false claims, almost all taken grossly out of context, that ’97 percentof all scientists believe it is Carbon Dioxide that is responsible for this man-made warmimg’ – and so on. The truth is that there are at least 20 different factors affecting the global climate, Carbon Dioxide being but one of them.

      As a former career scientist myself I was impressed by the number of solid references the author produced to support his case: that the Climate Change Catastrophe being peddled by globalists to and by our children and grandchildren is a total myth.

      Michelle Sterling’s film today for Friends of the Planet Society also rubbishes the panic. 500 top Climate Scientists wrote a letter to the United Nations aheadof its so-called Convention on Climate change last week, agreeing that there was no Climate Catastrophe in the offing.

      Today’s educational video about the effects of melting all the planet’s ice looked reasonable until at 10 minutes the Earth was shown rotating the WRONG WAY. That’s when I lost confidence in the film’s message.

  19. Daily Brexit Betrayal

    What then are these ‘plots’? There are several, going from giving Bercow the power (here) to write that begging letter to the EU, proposed by Mr Gauke, to impeaching Johnson, proposed by Plaid Cymru, reaching back into History:

    “If a majority of MPs

    voted for impeachment proceedings then Mr Johnson would be prosecuted

    and tried. The most recent impeachment motion was in 1848 against Lord

    Palmerston, the foreign secretary, who was accused of drawing up a

    secret treaty with Russia.” (link, paywalled)

    I favour this precedent from History – the Remain Harlots should perhaps heed it:

    “Cromwell finally

    became so frustrated that on 20 April 1653 he led an armed force into

    the Commons Chamber and forcibly dissolved the Rump, stating: ” You have

    sat too long for any good you have been doing lately … In the name of

    God, go!” (link)

    The Remain coalition leaders from Corbyn

    and Ms Swinson of the IlibUndems (Illiberal Undemocrats) to the SNP and

    Ms Soubry (I dunno what party she now stands for – her own one-woman

    party?) will meet in the HoC today, to plan and plot (here and here, paywalled here). This is their plot:

    “The Remain coalition

    will meet in Jeremy Corbyn’s office to discuss changing the law to

    bring forward the date when the Prime Minister legally has to ask

    Brussels to extend Article 50. They believe the current deadline of Oct

    19 does not leave enough time for a court challenge to stop a no-deal

    Brexit on Oct 31 if Mr Johnson defies the law and refuses to ask for an

    extension.The Liberal Democrats want the deadline brought forward by two

    weeks to this Saturday, Oct 5. […] Even if the plot was unsuccessful it

    would mean maximum disruption was caused to the conference, as MPs and

    ministers would have to dash back to Westminster to vote.” (paywalled link)

    In other words, they do not even want

    Johnson to negotiate a deal: “What do we want? An Extension! When do we

    want it? Now!” They are also gearing up, it seems, for yet another

    Court challenge.

    https://independencedaily.co.uk/your-daily-brexit-betrayal-monday-30th-september-2019/

  20. Houthis claim to have killed 500 Saudi soldiers in major attack. Sun 29 Sep 2019.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8a0bc974b470d8eb648fa5259d6cbdca03d3c63a550c7b8f63ca5184bcf5e8a5.jpg

    An unverified video shown at a Houthi press conference purports to depict Saudi military vehicles ablaze. Photograph: AFP/Getty Images.

    Houthi rebels in Yemen say they have killed 500 Saudi soldiers, captured a further 2,000 and seized a convoy of Saudi military vehicles.

    The extraordinary claims at a press conference on Sunday, involving still photographs and inconclusive videos of captured soldiers, many not in uniform, could not be corroborated, and there was no independent confirmation from Saudi Arabia.

    I had to smile at the sceptical nature of this article with its use of “unverified, “inconclusive” “purports” and “claimed”; a far cry from the usual uncritical coverage of Saudi operations. The reality is that the Houtis have given the forces of the KSA a sound thrashing!

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/29/houthis-claim-killed-hundreds-saudi-soldiers-captured-thousands

        1. The article is not quite as you described it. But NoTTlers can read it for themselves and draw their own conclusions.

    2. Any country even thinking of introducing a law against criticising the EU will be in receipt of an immediate letter from me doing just that.

      1. “Paragraph 104 of Germany’s criminal code states that anyone who damages the flag or symbol of a foreign nation will be imprisoned or fined.”

        The EU is not a fucking “nation”, you Kraut halfwits.

  23. Stevie Wonder is playing his 1st gig in Japan and the place is packed to the rafters. In a bid to break the ice he asks if anyone has a request.

    One chap jumps out of his seat in the 1st row and shouts at the top of his voice “Play a jazz chord! Play a jazz chord!”

    Amazed that this guy knows about the jazz influences in Stevie’s career, the blind impresario starts to play an E minor scale and then goes into a difficult
    jazz melody for about 10 minutes. When he finishes the whole place goes wild.

    The chap jumps out of his seat again and shouts “No, no, play a jazz chord, play a jazz chord”.

    A bit cheesed off by this, Stevie, being the professional that he is, dives straight into a jazz improvisation with his band around the B flat minor chord and really tears the place apart.

    The crowd goes ballistic with this impromptu show of his musical expertise.

    But, still the little Japanese man jumps up again and shouts “No, no. Play a jazz chord, play a jazz chord”.

    Stevie is really annoyed now that this chap doesn’t seem to appreciate his playing ability and shouts to him from the stage ” OK – smart arse, you get up here and do it”.

    The little bloke climbs onto the stage, takes hold of the mike and starts to sing…

    “A jazz chord to say, I ruv you… “

  24. Sir – People like me who live in areas with no mobile signal are being discriminated against by banks, credit card companies, the NHS and others.

    These organisations insist that, to use their services, we must be able to receive a code on a mobile telephone, even though they know this is not possible for huge swathes of the population. Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs will send these codes by landline, so why can’t others do the same?

    Dr Robert L Onions
    Bude, Cornwall

    Sir – The new EU rule that internet payments now require a one-time pass code sent to one’s smartphone (report, September 28) is pernicious.

    It is well known that great tracts of the country have no signal. My smartphone is totally useless when I am at home.

    Why can’t an email be sent, or a message via the landline phone?

    Alan Stockwell
    Smarden, Kent

    Why is this still the case in 2019 in the UK? I live in a very remote small village surrounded by farmland, 50 miles from the nearest large population centre (Malmö). Yet I have a permanent strong signal on my mobile telephone everywhere I go. Losing that signal has never featured in my life in the eight years that I have lived here.

    FFS if Sweden can get it right in a huge country (size wise) with only a population of 10 million, then why can’t the UK address this problem in a much smaller country (size wise) with more than triple the population?

    2. There is a lovely place called Goring-On-Thames where I have spent some fine afternoons with a friend who lives there. It has been a while, but none of us could get any phone signals there because the local council were nicely Conservative and would not allow companies to build their mobile towers all over the place, ruining their beautiful countryside.

      I don’t know if it has changed since then, and they can disguise them now and put them on buildings. There are obviously some pleasantly remote areas where it might not be cost effective to build a system of towers to serve 40 rural people.

        1. There’s been one disguised as a pine tree just a few miles down the road from me, next to the East Coast Main Line at Widdrington. It’s been there ten years or more.

          Maybe there are more than you’d think, it’s just that they are so well disguised you don’t see them.

        2. True_Belle – as I said, it has been a while since I was there and masts are more easily hidden these days. But I remember driving through the country on the way to Goring and you had beautiful open rolling fields with barely a tree on the horizon in places. We had lots of bugs hitting the car windscreens back in those days as well. 🙂

          1. Well you know , that is my theory as well..

            We are surrounded by antenna for police headquarters and army around these parts, plus large slurry lakes for the factory farms ..

            I think that ammonia and nitrogen play a huge part re the disappearance of many insects and birds.

            And probably the masts contribute to cerebral problems that many people are experiencing these days .. such as depression etc!

      3. In Dubai they are disguised as palm trees.
        Where there’s a will there’s a way. Bit like frustrating Brexit.

        1. Yes, they can do a lot with the masts these days. The last time that I was in Goring was around 25 years ago for my friends wedding and there was no mobile signal back then. When I asked about it they were proud to say that they blocked all applications to build towers. But that area is, ahem, very very wealthy and no doubt those who wanted them had satellite communications.

          I did once approach the town from the West instead of my normal drive from the East. That was a white-knuckle ride along tree clad roads with steep hills and almost hairpin turns. I have not driven on roads such as that since the days where I was growing up.

        2. They are disguised as palm trees also on Tracy island; however, they lose the signal every time Thunderbird 2 launches.

    3. Grizz, when I attended a telecommunications training course at Ericsson’s in Stockholm way back in 1986 part of the induction was a history of that company’s innovation and successes. Mobile telephony was seen as a must have in the large swathes of countryside where running cables was very problematic. The sight of an early mobile phone set, needing a wheelbarrow to move it when not fitted in a 4×4, brought smiles to our faces but Ericsson was ahead of the curve. The exchange system BT was purchasing, the AXE10, was being developed into an all singing, all dancing system capable of functioning as a local, trunk, international or mobile switch depending on the subsystems fitted. The last version I helped to integrate into the UK’s network was another excellent piece of equipment. It’s therefore little surprise to me that Sweden remains ahead of the UK in mobile provision.

      1. It was very ‘BT oriented’ kit. Great chunky stuff with soldered joints everywhere, straight out of the 1950s.

        2. What was, “Great chunky stuff…,” the AXE10 or Ericsson’s early mobile kit? If you’re talking about the former then you’re way off target but spot on with the mobile phone kit, hence my mentioning the wheelbarrow.

    4. The OTP code system didn’t work too well when my wife tried to buy a bus ticket online in Spain recently; the bank sent the code (no other options allowed, which is odd because the same bank usually gives me an option to use another registered number if I am unable to reach my usual phone) to our landline in Derbyshire – mind you, no chance of fraud that way!!

        1. I used to do that just because I could, not to save money, or even speak to anybody. It was just fun to bypass the system and hear the phone ring at the other end.

    6. However surely the question is why are they trying to force everyone to own a smart phone, surely not just so one can access one’s hard earned money.

    7. Hi Grizz

      Blonde question here , do the Brits know how to do things.. and another thing I don’t understand is how one sees Africans in remote spots using mobile phones , or even clutching their phones when they land in Britain illegally, yet here all mobile signals vary .. sometimes useless.. that’s why I don’t bother .

      1. Good morning, Maggie dear.

        Conspiracy theory states that those in power in the UK do not want its population to enjoy the convenience of a universal mobile signal. It is easier to control them that way. Especially the pesky serfs who live in the “sticks”.

        2. That is why FM radio was introduced to supplant AM. This began coincidentally around the time that the UK was divided up into areas that each had a Regional Seat Of Government. The RSG would take over locally to run an area after central Government had been obliterated in a nuclear attack. FM radio allowed individual areas to be isolated from each other in respect of news broadcasts and the like.
          As transport would be controlled by the military, it was part of the plans to keep order.

          See “the War Game” for further details.

      2. There was Internet access in the Gobi, powered by solar panels on the roof of gers. Cell phones worked. We are less than a third world country in places!

  27. Good morning, all.

    Bearing in mind that every day above ground is a good day, today is a special one, as the UN has designated it International Day of Older Persons.

    So let us rejoice and give three rocking chairs ………… Hip, Hip ….. Replacement!

    1. ‘Morning, Duncan.

      Joking aside [What? :•)] The UN seems to have a day, for something or other that is risible, every bloody day.

      The UN is nobbut another bunch of power-crazed wannabes just like the EU.

      2. C’mon Grizz the UN gives us some of the worlds best comedy,who else could give us a “Human Rights” council that includes
        Democratic Republic of Congo
        Afghanistan
        Burkina Faso
        Cuba
        Eritrea
        Pakistan
        Qatar
        Saudi Arabia

        1. I might change my name by deed poll to Vomitbucket Fartbanger and apply for the job of Secretary General.

          After all, they’ve never had anyone in that position who has a sensible name!

          Hubert Miles Gladwyn Jebb (Caretaker)
          Trygve Lie
          Dag Hammarskjöld
          U Thant
          Kurt Waldheim
          Javier Perez de Cuellar
          Boutros Boutros-Ghali
          Kofi Annan
          Ban Ki-moon
          António Guterres

    4. ‘Older Persons’?

      Older than what?

      What the hell does that even begin to mean? Apart from the use of the micey ‘persons’ rather than ‘people’, we are all ‘older’. Every last one of us, apart from those who have died in the last 24 hours is a day older than we were yesterday.

      Who the hell dreams up this meaningless bollocks?

      1. Could it be yet another attempt by the Left to drive divisions into society? To make those of us with some life experience and years under our belts seem like a quaint little sub-group, not to be taken too seriously? A minority that is outside of the “dynamic forward-looking youth” that they are so keen to control.

        The closed minds of many of those younger people is staggering to behold. They cannot see the blatant contradiction in position between praising all of those “traditional tribal societies” who almost venerated the Elders of the village for their wisdom, while dismissing the older people in their own society as “being foolish and in the way.” This is clearly what brainwashing looks like.

  28. PM Imran says Islamic TV channel will be like BBC. Monday Sep 30 2019.

    ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Imran Khan on Monday shared a picture of his meeting with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad in which the three leaders decided to set up a TV Channel to fight Islamophobia.

    Taking to Twitter, the prime minister shed further light on the project saying the English language TV Channel will be like BBC which will highlight the issues faced by the Muslim world.

    So it will be funded by the peasants and consist of propaganda, disinformation and lies? Seems about right!

    https://www.geo.tv/latest/249355-pm-imran-says-islamic-tv-channel-will-be-like-bbc

    1. ‘Morning, Minty, it will probably have a constant stream of beheadings and hand amputations, with a little light relief of adultress stoning and non-hijab wearers being beaten.

      All in a day’s good viewing.

      1. Morning Nan. Once you understand its inbuilt bias Al Jazirah is probably the best News Channel on TV!

  29. Morning all!

    Corporate message sent out on Friday evening (I don’t look at this stuff out of hours).

    Dear all,

    You will have heard a lot of comment over the past few days about the BBC and the reporting of racism.

    The BBC is not impartial on racism. Racism is not an opinion and it is not a matter for debate. Racism is racism.

    Naga Munchetty – one of our stars – was completely within her rights to speak about the tweets of Donald Trump which have been widely condemned as racist. We completely back her in saying “as a woman of colour, to go back where I came from, that was embedded in racism”. She was speaking honestly and from the heart about her own experiences. We admire her for it and she was completely justified in doing so.

    The very limited finding was not about Naga’s comments on racism. That part of the complaint was rejected.

    Diversity matters hugely. The success of the BBC is built on the quality and diversity of our people. That is not negotiable.

    BBC Executive Committee

    3. Morning, Sue.

      The BBC should get even more “diverse” and employ a couple of hundred more sensible Yorkshire lasses. :•)

    4. That refernce to what Trump said -“as a woman of colour, to go back where I came from” – was only half the actual quote. They fail to mention that Trump continued with [paraphrased?] “and then come back and look at how lucky you are to live in the USA”

      1. I think the rest of the quote was ” and then come back and show us how it’s done ” (referring to putting their own countries in order).

      2. Old Chinese saying – ‘if you look at a leopard closely through a bamboo tube, all you can see is one spot’.

    5. Sorry, Sue, and I realise that your post is BBCSpeak but I, for one, have had enough of ‘Diversity’ and am seriously thinking of a major export programme – yes, he can go too (hell, ASAP).

      Oh, I forgot, I’m not the Prime Minister…yet.

    6. She wasn’t within her rights at all. She is paid to present the news not offer her personal opinions on it! Morning Sue.

    7. “Racism is racism”, is no more true than gay is gay, and not perversion.
      Racism is a code word for triggering an attack on home and hearth and family. It is an signal of opposition to our society. It is a banner raised to attack our like-thinking, homogeneous white nation.

    8. Was she reporting on Trump at the time? Was it a BBC article specifically discussing the tweets, using a BBC account?

      Or is the BBC just biased against Trump? That *is* a matter for debate.

      As is the BBC having three nutcase remoaners on in rapid succession, giving them a good 3 minutes to spout their gibberish unchallenged without any representation from the democratically mandated, elected and public instruction.

      Again, that is NOT a matter for debate. the BBC IS biased. Hideously so. I think Munchetty simply hid behind ‘I’m the BBC’ while she was posting as a private citizen. The BBC, because it hates Trump with such a frenzied fanaticism; has leapt to her defence.

    9. A more truthful summation would be: “Eradicating traditional British values and free speech and replacing it with violently aggressive thought patterns disguised as “diversity” is our goal. That is not negotiable.”

  31. BTL@DTletters

    Logical Paradox 30 Sep 2019 7:04AM

    I watched the Tory party conference yesterday and was proud of every speaker. Each one spoke of fair, reasonable and honourable policies to help our nation thrive. I was buoyed up by the obvious decency and intelligence displayed …

    ….Then I listened to media reports…. They all did the most disgraceful hatchet job on Boris and the Tories. It had all the markings of the machine that works behind a totalitarian state. They (the ‘liberal’ elite), have been storing up ‘dirt’ on Boris…ready to produce it with a flourish of barely disguised hatred, at the very moment he is trying to deliver on the will of the people….

    …and how the ‘elite’ hate the ordinary people.. We dared to defy their undemocratic dreams of a totalitarian superstate…and now they are taking their revenge … This is beyond sinister …it has tipped into evil.

    ************************************************************************

    If there were any way that Our Sue could print this off and accidentally leave copies outside the office doors of each of the BigWigs , NoTTLers will crowdfund her appeal to the Employment Tribunal for wrongful dismissal

    1. Almost all the media has a very left wing bias just lookl at all the attacks on Boris but not a word over Lammey

    1. Yeah, yeah – meaningless bollox. If he was serious, he’d get his pal Priti Awful to have the Irish multi-property owner prosecuted.

  35. I have not heard a word from John McDonald about the real cos of remaining in the EU and the impact it would have on our economy nor have we had a word from him as to how we will cope with the millions of migrants it wants to let into the UK each year nor on the impact this will have on people already lining hear nor have they produce a budget for the huge increase in infrastructure needed

    1. John McDonnell has given no sine as to how the real cos will be met. When asked, he goes off on a tangent.

      …… I’ll get me Trig. tables ……..

  37. It is but a few weeks since we had lots of small “#stopthecoup” demos (given much friendly media coverage).

    Now, however, we have entered real coup territory. First, we have had law invented to hamstring a duly elected government. Hundreds of years of constitutional precedent gone in one judgement and the Royal Prerogative trumped by Supreme Court Prerogative. Have they got hundreds of years? No. They were a Tony Blair creation in 2005. Who are they? We don’t know. Second, there are now negotiations going on to create a “Government of National Unity” to replace the Johnson Government (Remoaners, I thought they’d done a coup? No?). What National Unity is this? How will the leader be chosen? Will there be a leadership competition? Will it go out to members of the national unity parties?.

    1. The remainers don’t care that they’re lying. They’ve convinced themselves of their righteousness – as they always do – to hide from their hypocrisy.

      One day their cognitive dissonance will smack them in the face – if I don’t get to them first – and cause a haemorrage.

    2. Now that Remainers are finished with ‘Stop the Coup’ placards, I wonder whether they would be willing to pass them on to Leavers for demonstrations against a possible ‘Government of National Unity’?
      Edit: missed out ‘to’ before ‘pass’.

  38. This would be a government of national betrayal. Spiked. Brendan O’Neill 30 September 2019.

    They’re openly, shamelessly talking about forcing out Boris Johnson and creating a ‘government of national unity’ whose job would be to delay Brexit – again – and then hold a second referendum or a General Election. That the political class is casually chatting about taking such a drastic, emergency, anti-democratic measure as setting up an unelected government to stop Brexit is the most worrying sign of the times yet.

    Morning everyone. Though one senses that Brendan is sceptical about this actually happening the truth is that when the Head of State, her Majesty, was replaced by the Supreme Court last week, the creation of a new government became inevitable if only to lend it support and legitimacy! The Remainers already form an anti-Brexit Party within Parliament and will probably coalesce informally and then elect one of their own members to become Prime Minister. (Not forgetting to share out the cabinet jobs at the same time of course.) I doubt that it will be Corbyn who is too divisive a figure; they will probably choose some anodyne figure like Margaret Beckett or Harriet Harman, both Neoliberal, female and unthreatening to the Public Eye.

    Though this move would ostensibly be to prevent Brexit the ramifications will be far more extensive than that since it will in essence end Democracy in the UK, not only because the votes of 17 Million people will have been nullified, but because this action will need to be policed into the foreseeable future. In other words a counter revolution must be prevented! This means, contrary to Brendan’s view, that there will be no referendum (too risky) and no General Election (why bother) until absolutely necessary and this may be well beyond the present legal limits since they can alter the law as they see fit! Perhaps we should name this new party within Parliament, The Party, which would seem appropriate to its nature and give Orwell the credit that is his due.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/09/29/this-would-be-a-government-of-national-betrayal/

    1. Stating that these people are opening a political and constitutional can of worms doesn’t do justice to their threat to the UK. They are a wrecking crew.

        1. These people are trying to destroy our country, as their fellows overseas are trying to get rid of all Nation States, but they have not won yet and their time is getting short. The EU are bankrupt and facing increasing civil unrest from those of us who will not go quietly into their dark night.

    2. Aided by facial recognition CCTV and a vast data base that recognises even the way we walk.
      All faces will have to be uncovered; apart from the usual exceptions, of course.

      1. As I posted a week or so ago, I can see a steady inrease in the wearing of long-peaked baseball caps to defeat Facial-Recognition CCTV cameras, which are almost always sited well above head-height to avoid being spray-painted over. How can the authorities legislate against baseball caps?

        1. Easily.
          Think back to what has been proscribed – either legally or through social pressure – over the last twenty years.

  39. Families may be able to add two storeys to their home WITHOUT planning permission, under new government reforms
    The new law will treat two storey additions the same as loft conversions
    Regulations will still be in place but neighbours cannot formally object
    Ministers hope it will allow growing families to expand without moving
    But critics say it will encourage unsightly developments in British settlements

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7518545/Families-able-add-two-storeys-home-WITHOUT-planning-permission-new-plans.html

      2. Most house foundations will probably not take the extra load. Could be a lot of collapsing house or at least tilting

        1. So much the better. I saw a house not long ago in West Hampstead which had collapsed into its foundations when the owners tried to expand the basement.

    2. Morning TB,
      “it is only a shanty in old shanty town”
      to house the expanding membership of the mass uncontrolled immigration element within the lab/lib/con
      coalition, preference being given to those of the islamic
      ideology followers.
      “There’s an imam waiting there” ……

    3. Growing families in multicultural areas. Why not have a seventh Mrs Ahmed? Oh, I see, you’re only 27 …. well, plenty time left, eh …

  40. Brexit latest: Opposition leaders to meet again to discuss stopping No Deal and Jo Swinson’s plan to ask for another extension

    The latest plan comes after the SNP failed to win support for a tabling no-confidence motion with a view to forming an interim government if they succeeded in toppling Mr Johnson.

    Opposition party leaders will meet for further talks in Westminster today while the Conservatives are away at their conference in a bid to ensure Boris Johnson cannot push through a no-deal Brexit.

    The leaders are expected to discuss a plan by Liberal Democrat leader Jo Swinson to force the Prime Minister to go to Brussels to seek another Brexit delay as early as this weekend.

    Parliament has already passed the so-called Benn Act requiring him to request a further extension to the Article 50 withdrawal process if he cannot get a new agreement by October 19.

  41. Has the Evening Standard journalist remembered anything else from a drunken dinner 20 years ago?Perhaps she needs to talk to her boss Gideon Osborne or boyfriend Robert Peston………
    It’s pathetic ain’t it straight out of the Democrat playbook

  42. We owe it to our kids to get the truth to them

    Australian MP Craig Kelly is hailed as a hero in this interview for arguing that the doomladen facts that Greta Thunberg is peddling to her generation and polititians worldwide have been grossly misreprsented:

    https://youtu.be/IagqMq4wfCc

    1. They just stick their fingers in their ears and shout, “The polar bears are melting! The polar bears are melting!”

      1. Our children are already being taught at school to use the carbon cycle rather than fossil fuelled parental transport.

  43. Should Boris force a General Election

    The FTPA seems to be very clear that if the government loses a vote of confidence it has 14 days to form a new government and if it fails it has to call a General Election. Labour & the Lib-Dem’s are trying to interpret it as it means they can have a go at forming a government but the wording in the act does not imply that

    2. I can’t find any mention in the FTPA of the Opposition being allowed to form an alternative Government in the event of a successful VONC in the PM. There can only be a General Election, so I don’t know what all the blather is about Corbyn becoming a ‘caretaker PM’.

    3. What the Left want is a coup.

      Ha! The irony. There they are, all wittering on about proroguation being a ‘coup’ to sieze power (to enact the public instruction to take us out of the EU) when what they really want to do is completely prevent an election, permanently denying the public an election while destroying Brexit.

      Dear flucking life. Apologies for my language, but I am utterly sick of these fascist scum trying so feverishly to undermine democracy, rule of law and basic expectations of servile public sector.

      They’re lying about it being an attack on democracy.

      They’re lying about the election
      They’re lying about wanting an extension
      They’re hindering the elected government’s actions.

      They’re liars, cheats and thieves who are trying, desperately to demonise their enemies when they are the thoroughly evil, putrid, revolting scum that needs flushing away.

      I hate them. It really is time there were a few examples made that we are their masters, that they disgust us and that their arrogant, corrupt, traitorous, treacherous disobediience will no longer be tolerated.

      1. But how do we do that? It’s obvious to all Brexiteers what’s going on but how on earth do we prevent their plots and machinations and get Brexit done?

  44. Greta Thunberg may die early due to over population in Sweden. She may also possibly die early due to the now high crime rate in Sweden

    1. If she lives then, like half of all Swedes alive today, she will witness Swedes become an ethnic minority in Sweden.

      1. And you are an authority on how Swedes live are you?

        Or are you just another over-opinionated halfwit, like the one you are replying to?

        1. On the other hand, George, having lived and worked with them (SJ 1998-99) been married to one (2003-2016) and visited and stayed in and around Norrköping, Soderköping and Linnköping many times during that era, I can vouch that Sweden’s political views verge on Communism, almost to the point of stupidity.

          Over-population isn’t a problem there – yet but, since their diverse and welcome guests won’t populate the frozen wastes of the North, I can see that Stockholm and all points South may get over-populated with the wrong sort of people.

          I understand that there are parts of Stockholm and Malmö that are ‘No-Go’ areas for white racists and, in Norrkoping’s housing estates called Silver Ring and Gold Ring these are known collectively and locally as Little Iraq.

        3. Where’d that come from, Grizzly?

          We’re told that the sexual abuse crime rate in Sweden is soaring. Is that not true? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45269764

          I appreciate we’re not told the truth by the media, but the link between Sweden’s massive immigration drive, especially from the middle east and Africa has corresponded with a huge spike in rape and assault.

  46. Now they want to outlaw non-violent political groups. Spiked 20 September 2019.

    Our freedom from government interference – our freedom to speak, to campaign and to operate as we please outside of the reach of the state – is under constant assault today. A recent report from the grandly named Tony Blair Institute for Global Change, titled New Policy Responses to Stop Hate Crime, is just the latest example of this.

    Its suggestions for further restrictions on what we can say about people’s religion are bad enough, and blur the line between anti-religious speech and blatantly racist speech. But the proposals about hate groups are even more disconcerting. Put bluntly, the report’s complaint is that the government does not have enough powers to make life difficult for organisations that promote views we don’t like, and so it ought to award itself some more.

    This is the problem with restrictions on Free Speech. Once you accept even the principle of it, for however noble a cause, Hate Speech, Racist Speech, violent inducing Speech, whatever, it begins to metastasize and grow to embrace any view or idea that someone else objects to! That Blair sees it as good idea should be enough to warn anyone off!

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/09/30/now-they-want-to-outlaw-non-violent-political-groups/

    1. …and if he did, why put it near him, why not make the fuss at the time…why…why…

      …why are you such a bimbo!

    2. Have any laws been broken, nope. After 20 years, strewth. We must be at the bottom of the barrel by now.

  48. Nicked

    I’m assuming the SNP are in favour of a Government of National Unity..

    or as they would say

    Och aye the gnu

    2. How can it be a government of National Unity when the SNP. Labour, Lib-Dems & Plaid all want different things?

      I think what they mean is a Temporary Coalition to try to derail Brexit but calling it a party of National Unity makes it sound better

  49. A bit of joy amid the gathering gloom.
    Should have gone to Soros.

    https://order-order.com/2019/09/30/anti-boris-private-prosecutor-facing-financial-ruin-losing/

    “Anti-Boris Private Prosecutor Facing ‘Financial Ruin’ After Losing

    Following ‘private prosecutor’ Marcus Ballsing up his case against Boris, the self styled ‘Brexit Justice’ campaigner has told LBC’s Nick Ferrari that he now faces financial ruin. After winning, the Government submitted a costs order to reclaim taxpayers’ money that had to be spent on the farcical case.

    A very smug Ball originally attempted to raise £2 million from gullible Remainers in order to fight his case, which was quashed as judges ruled that £350m is an acceptable figure to use in the context of British contributions to the EU budget. Then the High Court rejected his appeal…

    Ball insists he could still win and is attempting to string out the embarrassing saga by seeking judicial review of the High Court’s ruling. More and more Remainer money down the drain.”

    4. Gropegate allegations date to when Boris was Editor of the Speccie. Bibulous lunches were not unknown.

      It’s interesting how the extensive allegations against the Squeaker regarding bullying and much other inappropriate behaviour in office were swept under the carpet while the Rt Hon Dame Margaret Beckett led the campaign to keep him in place for the purposes of thwarting Brexit.

      The Dame’s words “Brexit trumps poor behaviour.”

      No 10 must take radical action against tyrant Bercow, before he wrecks Brexit for good
      ROB WILSON – 29 MAY 2019 • 4:53PM
      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/29/pompous-bercows-self-indulgent-remainer-antics-have-ruined-dignity/

  50. The Mail on Sunday printed version tells us……..

    Allegedly…

    “When the Mail on Sunday approached Mr Letwin last night about contact with foreign powers, he said: “I’m very sorry, I don’t want to have a conversation about any of these things” – before terminating the conversation”.

        1. I’m fairly sure it’s the Guardian meme generator at work again,Bob but as you say it’s getting hard to tell,so much of what is occuring is beyond parody

  51. Funny Old World
    My sister was in London on Saturday for a college reunion and was caught up in the demo on behalf of Soldier F,a substantial demo with hundreds maybe thousands of bikers leading to Regent St and much of the surrounding areas being completely closed to traffic
    She put some footage up on the family whats app group
    Over a family luch yesterday I asked what coverage anybody had seen from the Al-Beeb,blank faces,I asked what coverage they had seen from the papers they took??(Bugger all in the ST,not a word)
    Then I said,isn’t that a big difference to the coverage of Extinction Rebellion??
    Flashbulb moment
    “What else are the buggers lying(by omission) about??
    Edit Forgot the link
    https://twitter.com/SteveRightNLeft/status/1177879913719877632

    1. The Yellow Vest’s protests in France might as well be happening on Mars, the statements that the ports will be fine with a no-deal Brexit, in fact the existence of The Brexit Party itself, and the punishments that the EU are imposing on those countries who refuse to take part in their program to spread islam far and wide… These are just a handful of the topics that do not suit their purposes to air. There are so many more as we know. 🙂

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/794d270deef012cf77f6c195cb4c03a31849b08895cfd3136a73138952ee3509.jpg

  52. Boris Johnson will be dismissed by Queen if he tries to ignore court order to implement Benn Act, says Grieve

    Dominic Grieve, one of the 21 Tories who had the
    whip removed after rebelling over Brexit and one of the MPs involved in
    drafting the Benn Act to rule out a no-deal Brexit on 31 October, has said he thinks the legislation is robust, and that ministers will not find loopholes in it.

    In an interview with Sky News, Grieve said that if Boris Johnson tried to ignore the law, the courts could force him to comply.

    [Johnson] would be taken to court and a writ of mandamus would be
    issued against him and he would be told, as a matter of law, that he has
    to write the letter [to the EU requesting a Brexit delay]. The case
    could go to the supreme court and I suspect the courts could deail with
    it very quickly.

    Grieve also said that, if Johnson tried to ignore the courts, ultimately he could be dismissed as prime minister by the Queen.

    1. And Brenda could dismiss the whole of the House and call a GE.

      Grieve should keep his head down and his mouth shut.

    2. Surely the Queen is now only empowered to express an opinion and then only to the Prime Minister.

  55. G’day all.

    Just got up @ 2 pm. That concert was a wow.

    Morris , an 82 year-old man, went to the doctor to get a physical. A few days later, the doctor saw Morris walking down the street with a gorgeous young woman on his arm.

    A couple of days later, the doctor spoke to Morris and said, ‘You’re really doing great, aren’t you?’

    Morris replied, ‘Just doing what you said, Doc: ‘Get a hot mamma and be cheerful.”

    The doctor said, ‘I didn’t say that.. I said, ‘You’ve got a heart murmur; be careful.’

    2. But it was too late….nine months later the doctor saw his patient going down the street with a gorgeous young woman next to him with a Morris Minor.

    3. The doctor asked Morris how he managed to attract such a gorgeous young woman.
      “That’s simple. I lied about my age and told her I was very rich”.
      “You told her you were 62 instead of 82?”
      “No. I told her I was 92”.

  56. ROD LIDDLE – sticking the Royal boot in…..

    PRINCE HARRY has been explaining how he finds it difficult to get out of bed on a morning due to his worries about the state of the world.
    I really don’t know what’s wrong with this bloke.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7908996c956fd7257db974d092be2ceda4ba1543176a7cf8523f7d075423bd33.jpg

    Listen, Harry. Many, many people find it hard to get out of bed in the morning because they don’t know where the next meal is going to come from.

    Or because they’re about to slave all day for a pittance at a back-breaking job which they hate.

    Can I suggest it’s a bit easier to get out of bed in the morning when your flunkey’s just brought you a nice boiled egg while another flunkey is getting your private plane ready for take-off?

    You are an immensely rich, immensely privileged, white male.

    And this constant emoting and whining is beginning to get a lot of people down.

    It’s good you worry about the world, sure. We all do.

    But if I were you I’d worry more directly about preserving our Royal Family, of which you are an important part.

    Harry should perhaps worry more directly about preserving our Royal Family

          5. Post match summation. Nail-biting it was. Samoa only really started to play like Samoa in the last ten minutes. The second yellow (=red card) was harsh. I’ve never seen any specific training instruction how to stop someone sliding in for a try.

    2. Harry finds it difficult to get out of bed?

      If I woke up next to that nighean na strìopaich of his, I wouldn’t be able to get out of bed fast enough.

    3. Funny , I guess that the fact that he can’t spend money fast enough and he is red headed with a huge bald patch appearing on his bonce , and that he has betrayed the Royal family and become a puppet of a half black actress who is out doing him in the popularity stakes..

      1. Not in this household she isn’t!
        Good morning BTW everybody. Looking forward to and dreading 31st October in equal measure. The remoaning remainiacs are cooking something up to equal the “Supreme Court’s” recent diabolical judgement.
        Edit:
        Sad to say I think she has too much influence on him – she “wears the trousers” – I admired him for his Invictus Games but must admit he’s gone down in my estimation. She was never up.

    4. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-harry-group-posh-pals-11679255

      Hunting in Argentina.. and a trip to Europe shooting boar..

      Prince Harry insists we need to put aside ‘greed, apathy and selfishness’ to protect the planet from climate destruction and says caring about the environment does not make him a ‘hippy’

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7518585/Prince-Harry-insists-need-aside-greed-apathy-selfishness-protect-planet.html?ico=pushly-notifcation-small

      That man is an utter hypocrite!

          2. That should perhaps read, National Association of Ginger Sons of Cuckolds – it was his father (who isn’t/wasn’t ginger) who was cuckolded.

        4. The worry is that this photo of him when he was younger suggests something.
          To me it suggests that he is suggestible, that he will go along with whatever someone says.
          His mates at college may have been proper hunting, shooting and fishing chaps, and it is likely that the officers he met in the military were of a hunt and kill, manly, mentality.
          It is quite unlikely that he would have entered into discourse with too many chavs, socialists and “save the rhino/elephant/everything” else types at Sandhurst or in the officer cohort of the Blues and Royals.
          Has he ever spoken to a normal person?

    5. It’s madness to worry about things you can do nothing about. Get a life! I blame his mother’s genes.

  57. The scenario at the moment is that there must be a ” deal ” before Brexit can happen.
    As the real motivation is in fact to entirely prevent a Brexit of any kind, it is reasonable to expect that any deal that Boris presents
    will be voted down for one reason or another, just as the deals proposed by Mrs May were down-voted.

    2. Voting down May’s “deal” was the right thing to do although Labour, LibDems et al. probably did it for the wrong reason i.e. it was proposed by a (alleged) Tory.

    1. What a beta?

      Oh he’s not thinking because he’s an aggressive bully that he’s some sort of pack leader, is he? He’s a bully and a Lefty. A nasty little creep following a man he hates around.

  59. Just for a change of topic.

    Remember a few years back politicians threaten each other and daring them to publish their tax returns?

    That went very quiet.

    2. That was Ken Livingstone vs Boris. And when they published their tax returns it turned out that that nasty little sh1t Livingstone was paid through a private company thereby lowering his rate of taxation and Boris through PAYE.

  61. Robert Mugabe buried in a steel coffin encased in concrete as family claims people are ‘after his body’. 29 SEPTEMBER 2019.

    The bizarre burial of Robert Mugabe saw the former Zimbabwean leader interred in a steel-lined coffin under a layer of concrete on Saturday, following a bitter dispute over his resting place between government officials, traditional leaders and family members.

    Pity they didn’t do it while he was still alive!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/09/29/robert-mugabe-buried-steel-coffin-encased-concrete-family-claims/

        2. If you are serious – you can contact me off line if you want. Find one of my (brilliant) posts from three days back and give me a contact e-mail address.

          2. It happen here too. I kept yesterday’s page open and set the computer to hibernate last night, on resuming this morning there were no new posts and all BT’s posts disappeared. Nothing happened on refreshing the page. Everything reappeared when I start a new page. Disqus is getting more weird by the day.

  63. Plaid Cymru urged to back free social care for all

    What planet do they live on. It will have to be funded and they have not a clue how
    Talk about creative accounting £247M is what they say it will cost. If they think that’s is anywhere near the amount they need to get a new accountant and thats without factoring a big increase in demand if it were free

    A care commission set up by Plaid Cymru has recommended that all social care in Wales should be free at the point of need.

    It said providing services free of charge was “eminently affordable but it needs the political will to make it happen”.

    Plaid is now likely to turn the idea into party policy ahead of the next assembly elections in 2021.
    The commission estimates delivering the policy would cost £247m a year.

    It recommends the funding should come from general taxation. The sum equates to less than 1.5% of the Welsh Government’s annual budget.

    1. Population of Wales: 3,187,203
      Population of England: 66 million +
      I wonder where the money will come from?

      1. We should ditch the current partial hybrid Federal System and move to a proper Federal UK. WE need to set up an English parliament and Westminster would become the Federal Parliament. Each of the nations would raise and spend their own taxes. Each of the nations would pay a Federal tax to pay for the Federal Government which would be responsible for Defence, International affairs etc

        Westminster would be reduced in size to about 180 Federal MP’s. The Lords would be abolished

        1. Rubbish, Bill, that is merely to acknowledge that the Welsh and N Irish Assemblies and the Wee Pretendy Parliament, will all have total rule in their own provinces and Westminster (The ENGLISH Parliament) cannot get involved.

          The only effective remedy is to abolish the Assemblies, desolve the wee pretendy Parliament and bring all the powers back to Westminster under the aegis of the relevant Secretary of State.

          At the same time reduce the Commons to about 400 MPs and the Lords to Hereditaries only. The latter having a more long-term view and a vested interest in the country, thus being more competent to modify and amend Bills without any Party Influence.

          2. If Wales, Scotland and NI want to wreck their economies who are we to stop them. THey would not have Westminster to bail them out

          5. Certainly is, Horace. The way we were before the advent of Blair and his traitorous changes to the constitution. Brenda should have progued his Parliament until he repealed his repulsive, unconstitutional changes.

        2. Coupled with that there should only be an handful of MPs from each state in the over-arching British government.
          And the English Assembly should have 200 (?) MPs at most.
          It is a difficult matter to solve, but currently, there are too many posturing pygmies in the wee pretendy parliaments.

    2. That sum also equates to the amount we have to pay to the EU weekly – sorry Plaid Cymru, have you factored that into your ‘Welsh Government’s Annual Budget’ ‘cos that’s the reason you ain’t getting it?

      1. A rough figure suggests 25,000 people are in care homes in Wales
        £247M/26000

        So £9500 a year per person that will not be anywhere near enough

  64. BBC Climate Change Spin

    They forget to mention it is a flood plain . Probably more people are being affect but not because of climate change but to population growth

    HCM CITY – Local authorities in the Mekong Delta are taking measures to mitigate the impact of flooding caused by high tides during the annual flood season in the delta.

    The Displaced: Climate change in Vietnam ‘destroying family life’
    Vietnam is one of the world’s most vulnerable countries to climate change.
    It’s already having a huge impact on the lives of those in the Mekong Delta, the agricultural heartland of the country and home to 20% of the country’s population.
    Ashley John-Baptiste went to meet the families living on the front lines of climate change.
    In 2018 – more than 35,000 people were forced to flee their homes every day – that’s one every two seconds.

    1. Nothing to do with climate change. That part of the world has always been like that.
      It isn’t climate change that made the Sahara hot.

  66. A friend of a friend of a friend has suggest Boris may have brushed against Greta’s arm so has reported to the police

  67. Stella Creasy urges action on anti-abortion poster ‘harassment’

    It is not harassment in my view. She may not like it but they fully entitled to put up posters

    Stella Creasy, the MP for Walthamstow, said she was being harassed by anti-abortion group CBRUK because of her pro-choice stance.

    The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) said it had been “carefully assessing” more than 20 complaints.

    Ms Creasy called on the Met Police to act to “stop the harassment”.

    On social media, Ms Creasy also criticised both the Met Police’s refusal to intervene and Clear Channel, which owns the billboards.

      2. Far-left liebour.

        Hilarious that she should criticise the Rainbow Met for not acting on her complaint…..

      3. Creasy has connections to the Peerage, being from the family of John Prendergast-Smyth, 1st Viscount Gort, and the Cayzer baronets. Creasy’s mother has described her own background as “very aristocratic” and “enormously privileged”. Creasy was born in Sutton Coldfield, and is the daughter of Corinna Frances Avril (née Martin) and Philip Charles Creasy, both active Labour Party members; her father is a trained opera singer and her mother a headteacher of a special needs school. Her elder brother, Matthew Henry Creasy (born 1974), is an academic.

        After spending her early childhood in Manchester, her family moved to Colchester where Creasy attended Colchester County High School for Girls, a grammar school. Although she initially failed the eleven-plus exam, the Creasy family’s move south gave her a second chance. Creasy attended Magdalene College, Cambridge where she read Social and Political Sciences before pursuing postgraduate studies at the London School of Economics. In the 1990s, towards the end of John Major’s period as prime minister, Creasy was an intern at the Fabian Society.

    3. How very quickly Stella Creasy tuned from attractive young woman to crabby old bat. Shows that politics destroys everything – especially attractive young women.

    4. Stella Creasy went to Colchester Girls’ High School.
      I hope to goodness my granddaughter doesn’t look upon her a good example.

      1. When i went last time i texted my dog sitter because i was worried about separation anxiety. I asked her if Dolly had settled in and was calm. She said it took 10 minutes. :o(

        1. When we go away, our cleaner and her boy friend house sit. They have a small poodle who is Spartie’s chum.
          I doubt Spartie misses us bigly.

          1. My dog sitter has a Westie called Essie. She is blind and deaf she is so ancient. Dolly and Essie adore each other. They always sleep spoons.

  70. A study by the University of Sussex found that the average family in the UK throws away 20% of all the food they buy, costing up to £800 a year.

    Who an earth throws out 20% of food. I simply do not believe this average unless they are counting things like tea bags and vegetable peeling etc

    1. The only ‘food’ that gets thrown out of this house consists of bones and vegetable peelings.

      I don’t buy food to throw away. When I pick things from the supermarket shelf on a Friday morning every one of them has a destination in a meal. And every meal is eaten.

      3. I threw away a casserole once. In my defence, it was the last bit of it and had been made two weeks before. I’d got it out of the freezer to eat and had forgotten, and instead of being a nice rich paprika red it was green.

      1. Well Use By Dates you should take notice of although if properly stored they should be ok for another 3 or 4 days. The date that can be ignored i the Best Before Date

  71. Jess Phillips abuse: Police called to MP’s home three times

    She has given no example so who knows. She does not set a good example herself perhaps she ought to reflect on her own behaviour first

    She claimed Boris Johnson had a “direct strategy designed to divide”, which she said was “working”.
    The prime minister denies this and said any threats to MPs were “deplorable”.
    On Friday, a man was charged in connection with a disturbance at Ms Phillips’ Birmingham Yardley constituency office the day before.
    Ms Phillips has been a high-profile critic of Commons language in recent days.

    2. Of course they don’t. They think they’re the heroes. If they did otherwise the reality of their own cognitive dissonance would cause their heads to explode.

    3. If that was in this country… Even though I am a fairly peaceful person in public, I would have the overwhelming desire to get a friend to start filming before performing a “Citizens Arrest” for obstruction of the Queens Highway. All of this would be a fluffy ruse of course to allow me to carry out my real intention.

      During the ensuing tussle I would make damn sure that I ripped that bandanna from their face, and the coverings of any little bas*ard that thought it was alright to treat senior citizens that way. Then release their faces onto the internet and let the games begin.

      I grew up in the country and anyone talking in that way would be instantly decked. So, unsurprisingly, it didn’t happen at all.

      1. Unfortunately, I think a citizen’s arrest can only be carried out if the suspected crime has a tariff of up to ten years or more in prison. I read it somewhere.

        1. The “citizens arrest” was just a ruse to give me the excuse to take hold of them, which they would scream as assault otherwise. If their face covering happened to be pulled off during the struggle, that would be a happy co-incidence.

          Which is why I have my friend filming it. 🙂

    4. In that instance, you really have to think… you’re nuts, kids. Show some respect to your betters. Standing there blocking the road, chanting away, covering their faces – yes, they are the truly evil. What’s needed are a group of young chaps to sort these kids out and teach them a lesson. Smack them about a bit, take off those stupid coverings, photograph their bloody noses and tell them to grow up and get a job.

  73. Afternoon, everyone. Winter is on its way – I saw a snowplough on the road this morning when I was walking the dog!

    1. The Brexit Winter – no fuel; three day week; no food; no medicines….bodies found in drifts.

          4. People started getting weepy and hurty over the howwid words.

            These people are now in Parliament, God help us.

          5. ‘Vermin’ ?

            An appropriate term to describe several current Tories – Grieve, Letwin and Hammond – and also the Speaker …

          7. So ’46 – ’47 was Attlee, which was the point I was making. I remember the Winter of Discontent and “Who Rules Britain?”. I also recall that Attlee’s government managed something even Hitler couldn’t – they put bread on ration!

  74. Of course it’s all to do with saving the planet

    Nothing to do with the money

    No,Sireee

    “Last year Mr Gore’s venture capital firm loaned a small California firm $75m to develop energy-saving technology.

    The company, Silver Spring Networks, produces hardware and software to make the electricity grid more efficient.

    The deal appeared to pay off in a big way last week, when the Energy
    Department announced $3.4 billion in smart grid grants, the New York
    Times reports. Of the total, more than $560 million went to utilities
    with which Silver Spring has contracts.

    The move means that venture capital company Kleiner Perkins and its
    partners, including Mr Gore, could recoup their investment many times
    over in coming years.”

    1. It’s very much a way to move large amounts of other people’s money into the hands of the fraudsters who are protected by grants to encourage green technology. Gore is one of the principals is one of the greatest most comprehensive mass delusion ever seen. These are people who have persuaded children that the world is to end soon and that the cause of our imminent demise is our contribution to the tiny amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere . It’s scientifically absurd but grinds on as the world gets colder.

  75. Bunging the EU billions of pounds for free shows the toxic ineptitude at the heart of May’s Brexit deal
    ROBERT ROWLAND – BREXIT PARTY MEP – 30 SEPTEMBER 2019 • 8:38AM

    If you owned 16.1pc of the European Investment Bank (EIB) would you give it away free to the other wealthy members as you leave the EU?

    That’s what Philip Hammond, the former chancellor and his team of civil servants have done.

    Hidden in Theresa May’s discredited Withdrawal Treaty, ex-Chancellor Philip Hammond (then also on the Board of Governors of the EIB) gifted it €7.5bn of taxpayer’s money for no concessions. He then accepted a 12-year repayment of €3.5bn with no interest, from a bank making €5bn profits in just the last two years.

    The ultra-Remain ex-chancellor was prepared to leave the UK credit card open over a decade to ensure the EIB can continue to lend on non-commercial terms to the EU 27 at UK taxpayer risk.

    The UK is also treaty-bound for another €36bn of “callable capital”. This is money we will pay to underpin the EIB if the eurozone collapses. Additional toxic risk exposure comes through the EU Budget which guarantees €500bn of EIB loan note risk that we would be exposed to during any “transition”. It is a truly toxic trick, conjured up by Hammond and his team.

    But how did this happen?

    Under May’s Withdrawal Treaty, the UK’s initial EIB capital contributions, mostly given in 1973, of €3.5bn – in today’s money roughly €35bn – can be repaid in 12 instalments of around €300m a year.

    This is a non-commercial bargain for the highly profitable, triple-A-rated institution. Located in Luxembourg, with annual staff costs of €1bn and an average tax-free staff salary of a cool €294,000, this is no ordinary bank.

    The EIB lends where others will not and carries a high risk of default should another eurozone crisis materialise. Since the 2008 banking crisis, EIB lending has been politically driven, to prop up the eurozone. And lend it has, throughout the euro crisis, where today it has a balance sheet of €500bn of loans to countries like Greece, whose businesses have received €18bn in loans, or 10pc of GDP, so that the Greek economy can repay over-exposed French and German banks.

    Under May’s Withdrawal Treaty, the UK taxpayer would be on the hook for the next 12 years.

    And it gets worse. Loan note holders have the right to recover from solvent guarantors. That could be a massive hit to the UK economy, long after we are gone, if the euro or the eurozone economies collapse.

    Adding to this risk, the EIB is exempt from EU banking rules. It lends in a highly leveraged way, holding just 0.1pc on the balance sheet reserves for non-performing loans, compared to 3-5pc for real banks.

    So, can these bankers go to jail if they get it wrong?

    No. EIB staff aren’t afraid of going to prison. May’s treaty grants them immunity from prosecution – there is no jail hazard for EIB staff. And what does the EU intend to do with this get out of jail free card? It has authorised the EIB to lend to Iran, and May and Hammond wanted London to be the Wild West in which the EIB could operate with impunity from US sanctions.

    But maybe we get something for this risk?

    No. The UK has never been paid a penny in dividends and our economy has only benefited from 8.2pc of the loan portfolio, despite having 16.1pc of the equity, historically for safe high-tech purchases like satellites and infrastructure loans and now being spent on EU companies manufacturing and installing wind farms and other green projects, whose returns are underwritten by UK taxpayer subsidies. No wonder the EU says nothing can be changed.

    So, what’s the remedy?

    The Brexit Party says that after rejection of May’s Withdrawal Treaty and UK departure on WTO terms, the EIB must repay our €11bn of capital in full. The UK loan book, currently €41bn, should also be returned to the UK along with related contingent liabilities.

    This will be the initial investment into a new British Investment Bank, designed to deliver much-needed infrastructure spending and long term “patient capital” for vital projects. The bank would be exclusively a UK lender and have a AAA rating. Its remit would be investment in the UK regions, for example revitalising Great Britain’s Fishing and Coastal Ports.

    In a final twist to this toxic tale of Remainer scheming, the Brexit Party calls for a Royal Commission to investigate how the UK Government and civil service managed the process of exiting the EU with such ineptitude. Important lessons can and must be learned as the UK returns to the path of self-governance.

    Mays’ non-Withdrawal Treaty is designed to bind the UK and its economy to the euro project, without a UK vote or voice. It should be rejected in its entirety.

      2. Parting down the middle not a good sign although someone described the ugly git as a good kisser. The crooked nose denotes a crooked personality. Alternatively someone might have broken it and if so deservedly.

  76. These are dark days for Britain’s institutions
    NORMAN TEBBIT – 30 SEPTEMBER 2019 • 11:06AM

    As British soldiers sent to Ulster to save lives from the terrorists of IRA/Sinn Fein and extremist Unionists alike remain under threat of prosecution for events of nearly half century ago, the renegade priest Patrick Ryan broke cover to boast of his role in assisting the terrorist attacks in Hyde Park and at the Grand Hotel Brighton. Asked if he had any regrets he said, “Only that such attacks had not been more successful.” By that we have to assume that he meant that more innocent people might have been killed.

    What a contrast with the seriously ill 74-year-old former British soldier who has been charged with the attempted murder of a man who refused a order to stop for questioning in County Tyrone 45 years ago and who was rightly given an unofficial guard of honour as he arrived in court.

    Of course, having lost many friends murdered by IRA terrorists and living with my terribly injured and wheel chair-bound wife, I have a strong interest in bringing Ryan to justice, but we all have a lasting interest in seeing terrorists securely locked up.

    Many years ago the authorities in Dublin refused a request from the United Kingdom to extradite Ryan to face trial here. I hope that in the light of Ryan’s boastful confession the Government will now renew that request.

    Judicial imperialism

    In the meantime we have witnessed the extraordinary events at Westminster and in the Supreme Court where a panel of judges found against the Government in an application for judicial review of the decision to prorogue Parliament. Although the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation talked endlessly about “closing” Parliament as though there had been a military coup, prorogation is a perfectly normal procedure undertaken as a government comes to the end of the measures listed in the Queen’s Speech at the beginning of the session.

    Normally the prorogation is timed to start around the same time as the school holidays and continue to the end of the political party conferences in late September and early October.

    Traditionally the Courts used to grant a judicial review on one or another of only three grounds.

    The first was that the action complained of was contrary to law, the second that the person or authority taking the decision did not have the lawful power to do so, or thirdly the action, whilst lawful, was so extreme or bizarre that it could not have been taken by a reasonable man.

    Over recent years there has been a growth in what I call judicial imperialism as judges have simply granted the review and then dictated a different decision which should be imposed.

    That is precisely what the Supreme Court did last week. So the reaction of the Prime Minister and the words of the Attorney General, Geoffrey Cox, were well justified. And the disorderly scenes which followed in the Commons were made a lot less attractive by the bias and incompetence of the Speaker.

    In fact it is the anti-democratic behaviour of those Remainers who are determined to overthrow the decision of the British people given at the Referendum more than three years ago, that the United Kingdom should leave the EU and regain it’s right to self government, which is at the root of the disorderly scenes in The Commons.

    Boris Johnson has sought a General Election to let the people resolve the matter. The Remainer dominated House of Commons has refused. No one should now be surprised if the people seeing democracy defeated in Parliament take to the streets.

    1. “Normally the prorogation is timed to start around the same time as the school holidays and continue to the end of the political party conferences in late September and early October.”

      The summer recess, yes but doesn’t the prorogation come after the conferences?

      1. It hardly matters. As we have witnessed the supposedly urgent need for recall simply allowed more voice to the screeching harridans.

        This led to the further spectacle of the absurd minnow Bercow showing off and siding with the hideous fat hypocritical Labour women and assorted opposition comprising SNP oafs Illiberal Undemocrats and the now ubiquitous hag Anna Soubry.

    2. How generous Lord Tebbit is NOT to mention the utter barstards in the Liebour party who slavered at the actions of the IRA….

      We know who they are…

  78. A surprising bit of good news.

    In 1986, as newly elected treasurer of the Fulmodeston PCC, I opened an account at Nat West Bank.

    The then manager promised me that there would never be any charges for storing the church silver in the bank.

    In 2019 – that promise still holds.

    (It helped that I have copies of the original correspondence – and that banks apparently destroy all paper stuff after a few months…!!!)

    1. Reminds me of landowners who handed over their water sources to municipal water boards a hundred years ago, or more, in return for free water in perpetuity in that locality. Occasionally some privatised water company has challenged the phrase ‘in perpetuity’, and the Judge has explained that it means ‘for ever’.

        1. Apparently the bosses of Southern Water felt that it was better to spend shareholders’ money on a court case rather than invest in a dictionary.

  79. Another “viewing” this arvo. “Lovely house”; “Wonderful broadband (35 mega)..”; “We’ll have to rip out the kitchen and start again.” “Gosh, how old fashioned, they use gas…” “Why have a radiator and a heater in one of the four shower rooms?”

    Just FOAD.

    1. People are so rude Bill .. We have a floor to the ceiling large attractive Purbeck stone fireplace in our living room .. it isn’t too rough and there are small fossils embedded and it is a statement .. we live in the Purbecks .. Jurassic territory ..

      6 years ago when we considered selling , the agent and prospective London buyer suggested ripping the whole lot out .. we were horrified .. and regarded them as utter philistines .. We hated people traipsing through our home . .. even our parrot shrieked at people , which was a good job really.

      1. Indeed, Mags – and another “moan” What a nasty colour of the the (many) spare bedrooms is.

        Well – I’ll throw in a tin of paint of the colour of your choosing.

      2. When we were selling the old farmhouse, we had an obnoxious couple arrive. There was no way we wanted them to buy the des.res. The wife was primping around in stilettos – on a wet spring day.
        I took them on a tour of the garden, particularly around the spring fed pond; as a no-nonsense country woman, I had of course never used or possessed an umbrella.
        The gruesome twosome never returned

      3. People’s tastes are different. Even if it’s not to one’s liking, there is no need to be rude. I often say something bland and add, “it isn’t my taste”.

    2. Jill and I were chatting over lunch. There is a big advantage in the US system – the estate agent shows people around the home and the homeowners are politely asked to vamoose while a “showing” is in progress, so any nasty comments are well filtered. The downside to the US approach of course is the rip off commission they charge.

      As an aside, we were amused when we sold the suburban spread that Jill was asked to put her kitchen knife set out of sight, as apparently agents being attacked or robbed is not that uncommon.

      1. In my experience estate agents in England will show the prospective buyers around. It may be an optional extra in some cases.

      2. We just sold a house and were never asked to meet potential buyers. I thought that is what we were paying the Estate Agents to do.

        It admittedly was not our home but an inherited property. The same discipline will apply when we sell our home. We would have no desire whatever to meet potential buyers until contracts are exchanged.

        Edit: in a buyers market their are strong urges to engage with sellers to reduce the sale price. Whether asbestos surveys, minor roof leaks, imagined rising damp (an invention of damp
        proofing companies) or other minor faults.

  80. I was interested to see the French government utilising the magnificent church of St Sulpice for the service commemorating Chirac given that Notre Dame has ostensibly been destroyed by fire.

    No mention of the fact that St Sulpice was almost destroyed recently when someone threw a petrol bomb into the nave which thankfully was extinguished before setting the whole building alight.

    Whilst I greatly admire the architecture of French churches and cathedrals and would hope these monuments would be protected, I fear that more will be subject to foul attacks by the many undesirables of another ‘faith’ polluting large stretches of Paris.

    1. While I am in complete agreement, John – as an outsider, one does wonder WHY Chirac – arch crook and adulterer is being given a hero’s send off….

      2. I agree but having watched Macron posing in the Invalides supposedly inspecting the guard of honour I suspect this is being taken as an opportunity for the surviving crooks to pretend dignity and loyalty to France.

        Meanwhile there is insurrection on the streets of most French towns and cities and police brutality on a scale we in the UK would find hard to imagine.

        I think Napoleon himself might have something to say about Little Napoleon strutting in his vicinity.

        1. Toy Boy just LURVES anything with a hint of military ceremony. Except yer actual soldiers, of course.

          He sacked the last Chief of the Defence Staff.

      3. Maybe he makes his successors look even worse.
        Are they hoping his ‘gloire’ will rub off on them?

      1. Given that one of the churches I attended on Sunday was lit by real candles in a chandelier, that may actually have been an accident.

        1. One of the worst conflagrations was in Peterborough Cathedral. Some drunk had managed to evade the Sacristan and remained inside the closed church overnight. The prat lit a fire in the nave in order to keep warm and this ignited the plastic chairs which the church had foolishly invested in, in preference to more appropriate inter-lockable and stackable wooden chairs.

          The result was that the Cathedral was filled with acrid smoke which covered everything and had worse effect on the painted ceiling. It cost millions and careful conservation over several years to restore the building.

          2. Pity the “acrid smoke” didn’t finish him off.

            I always thought the lightning strike on York an appropriate reaction to a Church trying to re-write Christian beliefs.

          3. I was in Heidelberg visiting friends when York Minster was struck by lightning. My host Franz Gross, research director at Brown Boveri Kent in those days, told me about it at breakfast but added: “do not worry, the Five Sisters are intact”.

            That a German scientist had such profound knowledge of the importance of the stained glass windows at one of our cathedrals taught me a thing or two about the lack of a similar education in England. The Five Sisters are the mediaeval grissaile glass lancets in the opposite transept to the fire affected one.

          4. Some years ago, I was living in a Verger’s cottage in Hindhead, in return for being their organist (not dissimilar to my current situation near Farnham). I arrived home from work one evening to find my way home blocked by half a dozen fire engines. Some local loony had started a fire in the altar (which had a solid front and sides, and curtains at the back). It had smouldered fore some hours, until someone from the local AA group, meeting in the Vestry, wandered into the main church building to collect some crockery, and was greeted by a raging inferno.

            Thankfully, the conflagration was brought under control, and damage was restricted to the altar, the wooden panelling of the Reredos, and armfuls of my organ music, which the bastard had used to start the fire. Had the fire not been discovered when it was, the East Window leaded lights would have failed, and the backdraught would have taken out the roof. At least. The outcome was that the church was totally re-decorated, the parquet floor sanded and sealed throughout, the organ thoroughly inspected for smoke damage by the MD of its original builder, and my music… well, Ecclesiastical Insurance decreed that it had no right to be in the building, and wouldn’t hear of replacing it. I suppose I’m lucky that I wasn’t held responsible for the fire…

  81. Penultimate post.

    Could someone who is switched on tell me HOW MANY Labour MPs were murdered by the IRA?

    Just asking.

    5. That is a nice idea, but we know by now that many of the corrupt politicians that we have in Parliament today take absolutely no notice of the will of the public, and even if 40 million people sent letters then they would be ignored. Many of the MP’s that we have now are working in the interests of a foreign power and the futures of the people of this country are expendable to them.

      Voting them out of a job and removing their ability to control our lives though – that would certainly have an effect. Keep the good ones (there are still some) and expel the bad ones. 🙂

      1. It’s not just the corrupt politicians, it’s the corrupt Civil Servants, Broadcasters, QUANGO Executives etc etc etc.

        1. True – but if we get rid of the bad MP’s and replace them with good ones, then we can sort out the rest of the problems. It is the one single course of action that lets us deal with the corruption in all of the other areas.

          As long as we have corrupt MP’s, the rest of them are safe and our society will continue to be pulled down.

  86. Says the DT:

    “UK economy shrank after Brexit delay, figures confirm”

    Yes, and it won’t do much better if the lunatics wanting to delay it again get their way.

    Don’t these nutters understand the damage they’ll be doing to the UK’s businesses and economy by prolonging the Brexit deadline?

    1. As long as they get the promised lucrative non-jobs in Brussels and fat pensions at the end of it, nope, they don’t care how much damage they do.

    2. They don’t care; the filthy swine still get their pay cheques no matter how much damage they do.

      Nobody should enter parliament until they have proved their competence by being self-employed and dependent on their own unaided efforts to survive.

      1. I think that’s unfair.

        Swine are, after all piggies who are fairly harmless animals.

        This is why I’ve been using the terms ‘scum’, as that is simply an organic effluent.

    3. But as the article stated it was down to companies have stock pilled for the original Brexit date

      1. Whilst that may be true, the uncertainty is being prolonged when there’s talk of another delay, not to mention the uncertainty of not knowing the final details of our exit.

    5. Of course they do. All part of the plan to stop us succeeding and encouraging the others to break free.

  88. An educational video that explains the effects of global warming on the ice caps which form an essential part of the earth’s thermal regulation system. There is no assumption that the current climate change is purely anthropogenic but there is hope that changes in our sun’s sun spot cycle could trigger a mini ice age similar to that experienced by our ancestors at the last Maunder Minimum.

    https://youtu.be/-0QwdJ37Y38

    The video however does end with an invitation for the submission of ideas on how we should deal with the forecasted trend of the planet which currently looks as though it could end up like Mars.

    No mention however about Planet A ending up like Uranus!

    1. I’ve seen a number of astronomers/astrophysicists posit the idea that Mars ‘died’ because:

      1. It is much smaller than Earth
      2. Because it is much smaller its molten core cooled more rapidly
      3. As the core solidified Mars’s magnetic field failed
      4. Without its magnetic field to shield the planet, its atmosphere and any liquid water was blown away by the Sun’s solar wind
      5. Without the blanket of the atmosphere Mars surface cannot retain heat

      If the experts are correct the Earth will follow Mars’s example when our molten core cools down. Of course, we could be struck by a huge asteroid, aliens could land…

      1. Our magnetic field is showing signs of performing one of its flips. We’ll be without its protection for a while, so hang onto your hats!

        2. When astronomers talk about the magnetic field ‘flipping’ it gives the impression that it’s a sudden event. I believe it takes quite some time depending on one’s latitude – quick Google search offers around 7,000 years.

          2. molamola has added further info: that’s a good thing about this site, plenty of info and sources.

          3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal
            “Most estimates for the duration of a polarity transition are between 1,000 and 10,000 years, but some estimates are as quick as a human lifetime. Studies of 15-million-year-old lava flows on Steens Mountain, Oregon, indicate that the Earth’s magnetic field is capable of shifting at a rate of up to 6 degrees per day.”

      2. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d3413fd578ee41ded08dd2acf93046bb9c766c53e278fd43da7037add9b7b089.jpg

        Here is a graphic to illustrate the difference in sizes between Earth and Mars. It does still have a very thin atmosphere, but it if ever was dense then it would have been so long ago that complex life such as ours would never have had time to evolve. I found a website that had maths so dense that you would need an A Level (from 50 years ago) to understand it. That site layed out that Mars just does not have the Mass to have held on to a dense atmosphere over time. (That is in addition to the points that you made, which I have also read.)

    2. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sXxktLAsBPo

      Published on 24 Mar 2018
      Conversations That Matter features Dr. Patrick
      Moore in part 2 of our Conversation where he takes issue with NGO’s over climate, genetically modified organisms and what he says is the truth about carbon.

      Dr. Moore says we were literally running out of carbon before we started to pump it back into the atmosphere, “CO2 has been declining to where it is getting close to the end of plant life, and in another 1.8 million years, life would begin to die on planet Earth for lack of CO2.”

      According to Moore it is life itself that has been consuming carbon and storing it in carbonaceous rocks. He goes on to say, “billions of tons of carbonaceous rock represent carbon dioxide pulled out of the atmosphere, and because the Earth has cooled over the millennia, nature is no longer putting CO2 into the atmosphere to offset this.”

      At some point millions of years ago, the CO2 level was around 7000 ppm. If that’s true, and CO2 really is responsible for global warming, how come Earth doesn’t already resemble Venus (hot as he11, with sulphuric acid rain)? Life exploded in species, numbers, etc across the globe at a time when CO2 was far higher than today. According to the Climate change activists, it should have burnt to a crisp in a runaway greenhouse effect, but it did the opposite.

    3. There are more people on this planet than ever before. There is more industry than there has ever been. That activity and those people make for more heat.

      The solution, however, is not to shut down our economy with massive taxation. What we need to do is create new mechanisms of energy generation. That is not windmills. We are doing massive damage to our environment. The Chinese are destroying the rhino, elephant and tiger populations. Brazil is carving up the lungs of the planet but that’s a demand for materials.

      We urgently need to re-use the materials we generate but that requires energy.

      An alternative to moving planets is orbital plates – one for India and one for China but we just don’t have the technology for that.

      As humans, we’ll invent our way out of it. That requires – no, demands – a functioning, loosely regulated, flexible market capital economy. Nothing else works. It is only when hydrogen and helium3 or fusion power generation becomes widespread and common place that we will move forward. An entire new era of travel, of engineering, of exploration with practically unlimited clean energy. At the moment, government wastes time and money putting up awful, useless, inefficient windmills. These are stupid. We need government that is not stupid and that, folks, is the real problem.

      1. I agree.
        We must invent ourselves out of our demise and also our illusory fate that has caught the imagination of gullible generations.

  89. Man fathered six children with his daughter, Swansea court hears

    I wonder why he cannot be identified. They have not stated it was because of his age

    A man from south west Wales has gone on trial accused of fathering six children by his own daughter, who he allegedly raped 23 times.

    The defendant is also charged with repeatedly raping one of the girls she gave birth to and another of his daughters.

    He denies a total of 36 counts of rape, and one count of assault by penetration.
    Prosecutor John Hipkin said the victims were “groomed” to have sex.

    He told the jury the defendant, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, would act as a “fake mystic” who would send emails telling them what to do.

    3. No name because he hasn’t been found guilty yet.
      He make a ” not guilty ” plea because they do that kind of thing in Wales.

        1. This is rather a different case.
          I agree that daughter and her off-spring should be protected.
          There may be mental capacity problems.

        1. Putting him away for life would be justice. Putting his victims all over the internet, MSM, and front pages would not.

        2. But not at a cost to the young and innocent. It is still possible to sit in the public gallery but you are not able to report it.

  91. The DT appears to have disabled its single-view register feature. I haven’t been able to read an article for a couple of hours.

    1. I can only see the Home page headlines – I haven’t been able to read any of the articles for weeks.

    2. Annoyingly it appears that private or incognito windows are now not only keeping cookies but sharing them with the non-incognito.

  92. Norman Tebbit has got an article in the DT calling for the “heroic” priest Ryan to be arrested and tried for his IRA comments plus a dig at the supreme court. Lord Tebbit certainly has no love for the IRA after his wife was injured by the bomb which nearly killed Margaret Thatcher.

  93. Is it time to kill off the Olympics

    Like charities the Olympics in my view have long ago lost there way. They have become a very expensive junket that makes the people running the Olympics very rich whilst crippling the host countries with debt. With many countries as well the facilities left behind after the Olympics are of no real use and are left to fall into disrepair

    It is possible the greed of the Olympic may kill them off in any case as they struggle now to find countries willing to host them

    1. If you get rid of the Olympics, then Formula 1 and FIFA will have only themselves to compete with in the “Most corrupt sporting body” event.

  95. Put Up or Shut Up

    Lets see if she reports the alleged incident to the police. Somehow I dont think she will
    She just wants to try to smear Boris in my view

    Boris Johnson ‘touching’ row continues at Tory conference

  96. I don’t suppose anyone has seen the hanging effigies in Manchester? But I

    suppose that’s ok as it’s aimed at the tories. Or one John McDonell’s

    lynching comment about Esther McVey

    Did I dream Boris being referred to as:

    • a tw*t,

    • an empty-headed pr*ck,

    • a mop-head f*****

    • looking more and more like a fascist

    • the most disgusting scum bag ever to draw breath

    and every variation you can come up with, in the last week of the comments section of this ‘paper?

    Or the allusions to Nazi Germany in 1933…

    “That’s how it starts, folks

    Don’t pretend this is one-sided.

    After all the comments I’ve read along the lines of “fucking uneducated

    old pensioners hobbling to the polling booths on their zimmer frames”

    I’m not sure you can take the moral high ground.

    Brilliant,these are among the top comments under the Owen Jones article,even the Guardianistas have had enough of his puerils shite

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/30/crisis-civility-right-whipping-up-violence-hate-crimes

    1. When you read the comments they’re all delusional. ‘We’re the real patriots’, we’re the real democrats’. No, they are all liars. They are deciving themselves because it suits their narrative to believe themselves great and good.

      There is nothing patriotic about selling your country away. Then of course, there’s the oaf Jones wailing about ‘the far Right’. There is no Right. There is ony the Left. Of course, the commenters leap on it for justification of their actions. ‘Of course Owen, it’s the Right! We’re all great and lovely and doing nothing wrong’.

      The funniest is the comment saying they’re selling the country for ’30 pieces of silver’. That’s what the traitors are doing. Who is Boris supposedly selling to? Look who they are! They’re nutters. Mad as frogs and fifty times as dangerous.

    1. Someone should post that image to Brenda Hale and her cabal of crap judges, silly cow that she is. Hopefully their days are numbered in that we can imminently abolish the Chicken Supreme Court and restore our trusted Law Lords to their proper station in life.

    1. Oh goodie. Now we can take anything anyone at the Bbc says out of context and complain to the Supreme Court.

    2. It is not the job or remit of BBC autocue-readers to express opinions. They are there to impartially report the news, no more, no less.

      Lord Hall is an establishment lackey. He enjoys a fabulous income from the licence fee but, frankly, is not worth a bag of brass washers.

      I rather hope that the next majority conservative government will bring the BBC to heel and abolish the Licence Fee altogether.

  104. Two concurrent high profile items of news:

    1. Saudi Crown Prince denies personally ordering the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.
    2. Saudi Crown Prince warns the West that oil prices could go “unimaginably high”.

    Hmmm!

      1. You jest of course. Our dependence on Saudi oil is made more urgent by the silly wind turbine philosophy which would leave us dependent on whether or not the wind blows constantly. It does not but is actually utterly unpredictable. Any fool relying on wind turbines for our power supply, without equivalent back-up is but a fool twice over.

          1. It is utter madness that our National Grid has to rely on rows of relatively dirty, expensive diesel generators to plug any gap between supply and demand. The eco-maniacs have a lot to answer for.

      1. I know but my thinking was that he was either making a subtle threat to the West (keep off my case or else) or trying to divert attention away from the allegations of his involvement in the Khashoggi murder, or both.

        1. More likely the Khashoggi thing, because he is infuriated because it made him look stupid. He needs the West for obvious political reasons.

    2. “Army allowed to wear make-up…”

      Arguably, its been allowed for ages, sweetie:

      camouflage ! … x

      1. There was a story floating here that if a good “believer” is shot down by a woman pilot, no heaven, no virgins.

        2. The islamic “men” fighting in ISIS were reported to be extremely unhappy at the units of females that were being sent against them for that very reason. Being killed by a woman does not look good for the next life that they focus so much on, to the extent that they can act like murderous animals to other humans in this life to gain “bonus points” in the next one.

          Which is why, in that sick twisted mindset of theirs, walking into a concert filled with Western teenage girls and blowing yourself up gets you a good place in heaven for killing the “enemy.” Committing mass murder at the same time as suicide – satanic.

          https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syrian-army-creates-womens-unit-fighting-isis-islamic-state-bashar-al-assad-regime-terror-group-a7558896.html

  109. WRT that Naga Muchausenchitty chitty bang bang palava, more important question to Beeb and ITV is why don’t males ever sit on the left ?

    1. I have to say that, whatever the answer to your question, I have a definite tendency to focus on the right of the screen.

  110. MSM smearing Boris for the EU is reaching fever pitch.
    They know that they can persuade enough women not to vote for him with these allegations to make a difference.
    It is bordering on fascism

    2. But he touched one of “them”. He must be purged.
      I know it’s his word against hers.
      But I have to believe he is guilty
      He probably thinks about them when he is asleep.
      Put corn flakes in his mittens.
      Cast him out – put Queen Greta 1st on the throne and also make her Prime Minister.

      Hurrah, Nurse,,,, nurse……..

    3. Both our cleaner and her boy friend called out this this case for what it was.
      They are not political nerds, but they spotted the reason behind this smear.
      I wonder how many others throughout Blighty are thinking the same?

      1. Many millions – unknown, uncared for and unseen by the PTB.

        BUT – they are voters……………………….

      2. I think the BBC and all of the MSM which is doing likewise are now only fooling those who have the same agenda as themselves anyway.

    4. The “bonking” side of Boris I am indifferent to, it just washes over me. Even blee.ing John Major joined in the bonking game. Brexit is totally different. We all know the MSM, the establishment and the elite are all conspiring against us, some Tory MPs, even the Supreme Court has joined in the conspiracy. Of course the #metoo sisters may be outraged but …
      edited to remove “we” that somehow crept in at the end. Problems posting!

  111. Bbc News repeating the partial Trump quotation about ‘women of colour going back home’ – again.

    2. They were also at it on The World At One, again using just part of the quotation. My shouting at the car radio didn’t do any good so I made a formal complaint when I got home. Zero prospect of any admission or change, but I felt marginally better for having done so.

      In the same programme they made reference to BoJo’s “repeated” references to ignoring the law. There’s a vast difference between just one inference (that I heard) That a law may be ignored and finding a perfectly legal loophole in Benn’s highly damaging Bill.

      Ye gods, do I hate the BBC!

  114. This is getting tedious:

    Oops! We’re having trouble posting your comment. Check your internet connection and try again.

    The above in a red box. !00% of my posts today have required 2-3 “Post” attempts.

    2. Yep, seeing that too.

      As its not me I’m assuming it is either:
      Disqus having a wobble as it tries to track our every post
      Disqus submission for it’s own tracking purposes
      Not all comments being loaded and the post responded to not being the one it thinks your replying to and getting confused
      Something else to do with disqus plugin.

      The only suggestion I’d make is to make sure all comments are loaded.

    3. At Allan Towers it is a sign that the interwebby connection has dropped out for a few seconds.
      It is an occupational hazard in a Victorian house where for a century plus people have been making improvements.
      My Happy Apple Chappy has thoughts on the subject, but that can wait till next month.

      2. Not seeing the equivalent error anywhere else. I have to say that I don’t see any errors when posting “direct” to Disqus from other online news sources. I suspect there’s something a bit “loose” in the wordpress/disqus interface. The good news is that I was able to post an image yesterday, rather than it just not doing it with no error message displayed, as was happening a week or so back.

    4. I find that if you hit the white x at thend and then ‘Post’, it works every time. I’m using Firefox as a browser since ‘Chrome’ was shewing big white blank spaces once there were a lot of comments.

    6. I have been sitting here twice today thinking that it is very quiet as no “New Comments” have appeared at either the top or the bottom of the page. After a couple of hours I hit “refresh” and find 70 comments have been made that did not register on my screen.

      That has never happened before, and the rest of my internet is functioning normally as well, so it is not that.

      1. Disqus goes on a go-slow after 200+ comments. My internet is very slow but that’s normal here. I get the red box a lot too.

        1. I get the “go-slow” and flickery screen as well with enough comments open, but I’ve always had the “18 new comments above” when I come back to the computer after an hour. Today, no updates at all during the day, although it has started again now.

  115. Occasionally I conduct an internet search into the net worth of some of our most obnoxious and worthless politicians.

    The results of my searches are staggering.

    That comparatively useless politicians such as Tony Blair, a weevil, and his evil retinue now enjoy unfathomable wealth and possess multiple properties with untold value and that Sir John Major, a cretin, has likewise amassed immense wealth through his European connections makes me sick.

    My question has to be why the MSM are never exposing these crooks to proper public scrutiny?

    1. Because the MSM are part if the problem. They aren’t the same press we had 20 years ago – they don’t even have proper journalists any more. They got rid of them to cut costs. Look at the people working for the Telegraph now for instance and compare their calibre with the people they had there even 5 years ago, never mind 10 or more.

      Copy and paste and report what you’re told to report.

      1. Probably the last real service to the public by the press was the revelation of the MPs expenses scandal. I can’t comment on what the DT is like today as I stopped reading it a few years ago – I don’t even bother getting a free copy from Waitrose any more. It’s both sad and worrying as a free press doing its job properly is our last line of defence against totalitarianism.

  118. I’m off now…… gotta get something for dinner. Early start tomorrow as OH is going in for his surgery. Hope to be back later on tomorrow.

    2. Tel him to ask the anaesthetist + cutter – “Have you done this before? I have a good solicitor.”

    5. Good luck to your OH,

      We had salmon fillets, green veg and carrots and fresh Sainsbury pasta.. quick and quite delicious..Microwaved the veg, fried the fish in butter , dash of lemon juice and black pepper .. pasta took 6 mts .. All devoured with vigour . Haven’t decided on pud yet .. perhaps banana and custard.. nursery food!

  120. Q: Who is the highest paid employee at the ‘Daily Telegraph’

    A: Matt ….

    {Robinson} (yes, he gets paid more than the editor)

  123. An ex-BBC employee arrived at the pub towards the end of open-mic night. She was a bit scary with her views and experiences, but the times, they are a changing. (She might have been a wee bit tipsy.)

  125. Peter Hitchens, Thu 19th Nov 2015

    The EU is the Continuation of Germany By Other Means

    He starts:

    “Something which seems to me to be so obvious that it barely needs saying, but on the other hand which many people find shocking…”

    He then wanders through the history of Europe, from 1870 but mostly German v. Russia and the influence of the USA and summarises:

    “The true special relationship in Europe is not between the USA and Britain, which is a fantasy, but between the USA and Germany. If we are to make our way in the world, we either have to accept that the EU, if we are to stay in it, is a German creation and we will be part of a German empire…or we can leave it all together and say that we wish to be independent.

    “There are no two ways about it – if you are in it, you are governed by it. William Hague’s great slogan ‘In Europe but not run by Europe’ is as vacuous as saying ‘In Wormwood Scrubs but not governed by Wormwood Scrubs’. Life isn’t like that. This an immensely important, very significant, very powerful and quite aggressive project that has caused two wars in Yugoslavia and the Ukraine…before we decide whether we want to be part of it we should work out what it is. I say the European Union is the extension of Germany by other means.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CNeDtZmpjU

    Well, we decided to leave, Peter, but the who are the gaolers who won’t let us go?

    2. Ah, but it isn’t a charity. It has charitable status, and probably accepts donations but it’s really a method of hoovering up tax payers cash from governments.

      You see, this si where our foreign aid goes. Not to those who need it, but to quangos and troughers.

      1. Well if he was not hovering up $1M there would be a lot fewer poor for him to help so h has to be highly paid to ensure a plentiful supply of poor

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