Monday 26 July: Migrant vessels must be made to conform to commercial standards

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Today’s letters (visible only to DT subscribers) are here:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2021/07/25/letters-migrant-vessels-must-made-conform-commercial-standards/

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  1. More than 250 convicted of child sexual abuse in UK and Ireland while in Scout movement. 26 July 2021.

    More than 250 people in the UK and Ireland have been convicted of child sexual abuse offences committed while they were Scout leaders or in other positions of responsibility within the Scout movement since the 1950s, according to analysis that raises questions about the organisation’s safeguarding procedures.

    For decades, the Scout movement has been promoted as offering the chance to experience adventures and gain life skills but a review of offenders shows that for scores of children it has led to abuse at the hands of someone entrusted with their welfare.

    Morning everyone. The sexual abuse is undeniable but 250 over 70 years? That’s barely 4 a year and this assumes that they are all genuine. This said, this is not really about the dangers of joining the scouts. As soon as I saw the headline I knew what to expect. It is of course a thinly disguised attack on yet another White Institution . The real reason for the 70 years perspective is to make it appear that the Scouts are institutionally unsafe for children, while no safeguarding procedures can act retrospectively and where they exist are usually counterproductive serving only to discourage participation. There’s pretty much everything here. Scaremongering talk about Sexual Predators, and the dangers of letting your children join, even though in real terms they are in more danger going to school, particularly if it’s anywhere like Rotherham.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jul/25/uk-ireland-child-sexual-abuse-scout-movement

    1. Quite, and the four a year are likely not by four people but by one, quite probably across several years – which would be the nature of this type of offence.
      Still – if it scares it sells.

    3. The reason is that the lefties and self-styled liberals (most are very illiberal) attack anything, such as Scouts, that are liked or supported by people they hate for being better or luckier people.

  3. I’m waiting for Boris to say that no illegal refugee dinghy crossings will be allowed without a double vaxx passport.

    2. As long as they avoid nightclubs, restaurants, theatres, pubs or anywhere people might enjoy themselves, there’ll be no let or hindrance.

  4. On Topic: This is on a par with the stupidity of combatting knife-crime by insisting on age control for selling knives – as though criminals go and buy knives honestly, but then kill people.
    If the cartels see an opportunity to “legalise” their activity, they will make the boats legal and just bring in contraband as well as these migrants.
    What needs to happen is to stop the crime, not legalise the transport in which it is commissioned.

    1. Handguns have been completely banned, let alone their use in crime illegal, since 1997.
      The incidence of armed crime just incresedd.
      So, criminals don’t obey the law? Well, colour me surprised!

  5. Woman wearing Charlie Hebdo top attacked with knife at Hyde Park. 26 July 2021.

    A woman wearing a Charlie Hebdo T-shirt was attacked with a knife at Speakers’ Corner in London’s Hyde Park on Sunday, police said.

    The 39-year-old woman was taken to hospital after the attack at the site where people gather for public speeches and debates.

    Footage shared on social media shows someone dressed in black approaching a woman wearing a Charlie Hebdo T-shirt.

    Well that’s her up on Islamophobia charges!

    (No comments needless to say!)

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/26/woman-wearing-charlie-hebdo-top-attacked-knife-hyde-park/

    1. I wonder whether the attacker showed his i.d. before buying the knife and whether his car has an MOT.
      FFS – are we led by buffoons or what?

      1. Morning Rik. She’s obviously on a Muslim Hit List. I’m sure nothing will be done!

  6. Lemon Squeezy

    The local pub was so sure that its barman was the strongest man around that they offered a standing £1,000 bet. The barman would squeeze a lemon until all the juice ran into a glass, and hand the lemon to a patron. Anyone who could squeeze one more drop of juice out would win the money.

    Many people had tried over time, but nobody could do it.

    One day this scrawny little man came into the bar, wearing thick glasses and a polyester suit, and said in a tiny squeaky voice: “I’d like to try the bet.”

    After the laughter had died down, the barman said OK, grabbed a lemon, and squeezed away. Then he handed the wrinkled remains of the rind to the little man.

    But the crowd’s laughter turned to total silence as the man clenched his fist around the lemon and six drops fell into the glass.

    As the crowd cheered, the barman paid the £1,000, and asked the little man: “What do you do for a living? Are you a miner, a weight-lifter, or what?”

    The man replied: “I work for the Inland Revenue!“

    1. The version I heard was about a small boy in a restaurant who was choking on a coin he had swallowed and was rescued by young woman who rushed over to his table, grabbed him by the testicles and squeezed; he spat out the coin which she put in her pocket. When thanked by the child’s grateful parents she said it was all in a day’s work for HMRC.

      Jill Backson, late of this parish, took particular delight in this part of his work.

      1. ‘Morning, Richard, that’s in the book as well. Time must elapse before its airing again.

    2. I shall save this one to relate to my dearly beloved.
      He liked the one about the free haircuts and the politicians. He knows a lot of politicians. He laughed a lot.

    3. I shall save this one to relate to my dearly beloved.
      He liked the one about the free haircuts and the politicians. He knows a lot of politicians. He laughed a lot.

  7. Morning all

    SIR – The French say that they cannot stop a migrant boat unless it is in distress. If these were private boats, this could be true. However, the migrants pay for their passage, which makes the voyage a commercial operation. These commercial vessels must therefore meet the standards required to conform with safety rules. The person in charge is also required to hold a certificate of competence.

    If a vessel is stopped and fails the inspection, it should be escorted to the nearest port in France.

    James A Cowan

    Belmont, Co Durham

    SIR – Among all the discussion about the huge number of migrants arriving from France in small boats, there is no mention of the Recreational Permit that is required for legal sailing in French waters. Why are French coastguards not stopping these boats to check that they have the correct permits, and returning them if not?

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    Neil Tungate

    New Milton, Hampshire

    SIR – Paying France millions of pounds to prevent migrants coming to the UK will not deal with the problem. These people have travelled for months from lawless countries and through other lawless countries to get to the English Channel. This is the last hurdle to freedom and, after what they have been through, this stretch of water is not going to stop them.

    We should be sending a boat every day to the French coast to bring these migrants to the UK so that we have proper records of who is arriving. They could then be housed in reception centres and vetted before being passed into the communities.

    Immigrants have been coming to England since at least the Viking days and they have helped to make this country what it is today. Today’s immigrants will also contribute over time and the skills they bring will make us even greater.

    Ian Tunnicliffe

    Broughton Astley, Leicestershire

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    SIR – Why does no one state the obvious – that no country really wants to provide food, accommodation and health services for economic migrants at the expense of its own population.

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    The French are happy to pass the problem on to the UK, and giving them money is not going to solve what is an intractable problem for the wealthy and liberal Western world.

    Cathie Cox

    Littleborough, Lancashire

    SIR – Rather than wasting our money on hoping the French police will do something that is not in their interests, why not spend it stopping the supply of rubber boats in which the migrants cross the Channel?

    I am also curious as to know what happens to the boats once they arrive on our shores.

    Christopher Watkins

    Herongate, Essex

    SIR – I do not support the RNLI for it to act as an arm of the UK Border Agency.

    Elizabeth Prior

    London SW10

    1. Would I be correct in thinking that Mr Tunnicliffe sees himself as a latter day Cnut the Great?

      1. ‘Morning, Stephen – all the right letters but not necessarily in the right order.

      2. To quote from MrTunnicliffe:

        “Immigrants have been coming to England since at least the Viking days and they have helped to make this country what it is today. Today’s immigrants will also contribute over time and the skills they bring will make us even greater.”

        Has this idiot not noticed that Britain has become a hell hole and it started its descent into this infernal state as a direct result of the incredible acceleration in the rate of immigration since the 1950’s? We were warned but the warnings were ignored and it is now too late to do anything about it. Of course to mention the dire consequences of immigration, as Enoch Powell did, makes you a filthy racist.

    2. Immigrants have been coming to England since at least the Viking days and they have helped to make this country what it is today.

      Yes they were raping, stealing and pillaging as well Mr Tunnicliffe. Unlike our ancestors we didn’t have the means to stop them. We do now and should do so!

    3. Lawless countries – the EU, for example. Hmm.
      However, Ian Tunnicliffe, I’d prefer the Navy blew their sorry assese out of the water, and machine-gunned the survivors.

    4. I think the heat has gone for Mr. Tunnicliffes one remaining brain cell. A Nimby in a land locked county! What a complete moron!

  8. Tainted tap water

    SIR – In our area the tap water (Letters, July 24) often has a strong and unpleasant chemical taste, which does not improve when it is boiled. This is why we always use bottled spring water when making tea or coffee.

    Keith Temple

    Winchester, Hampshire

    SIR – In February 2020, the Monmouth water treatment works was flooded so Welsh Water distributed bottled water. I was so impressed by the quality of Brecon Carreg that I have bought it ever since.

    Tap water here is perfectly safe, but it does have the taint of chlorine.

    Thomas Hamilton-Jones

    Monmouth

    1. Firstborn’s water comes from a well on his property. Lovely, it is and colder than ice. No treatment whatever.

      1. Where my cousin lives – and his mother when she was still alive – they drew water from the well.
        Then in 2001, myriad healthy animals were cremated on a nearby hill. Since then, bottled water for drinking until main water reaches the boondocks.

    2. In my area we have had cryptosporidium polluting our tap water twice in 10 years. I no longer trust the supply.

  9. Good morning all. A bright start with 13°C in the yard.

    Why are people gatting scared of using the word “SEX” to describe Male & Female?

    US may force women to register for military
    The decision would require anyone aged 18 to 25, of either gender, to make themselves available for call-up in a potential large-scale war

    By
    Nick Allen
    WASHINGTON
    26 July 2021 • 6:17am
    America looks set to force teenage girls to register for the military draft, sparking a fierce row over gender equality.

    The decision was approved in private by the US Senate armed services committee and would require anyone aged 18 to 25, of either gender, to make themselves available for call-up in a potential future large-scale war.

    There has not been a military draft in the US since the Vietnam War, and senior Pentagon officials are opposed to ever having one again.

    However, by law, young men still have to register for the draft, known as the Selective Service System, when they turn 18.
    If they do not, they can be penalised; for example by losing access to financial aid schemes for college.

    The committee of Democrats and Republicans approved changing the 1948 Military Selective Service Act to drop the word “male”.

    Five Republican senators opposed the move.

    An amendment making the change was part of a massive defence spending bill which still has to pass the full Congress, where Democrats control both chambers.

    Senator Tom Cotton, a Republican from Arkansas who voted against conscripting young women, said: “Our military has welcomed women for decades and are stronger for it.

    “But America’s daughters shouldn’t be drafted against their will.

    “I opposed this amendment in the committee, and I’ll work to remove it before the defence bill passes.”

    Josh Hawley, a Republican senator from Missouri who also voted against, said: “Missourians feel strongly that compelling women to fight our wars is wrong, and so do I.

    “It’s one thing to allow American women to choose this service, but it’s quite another to force it upon our daughters, sisters, and wives.”

    The US military lifted its ban on women serving in combat roles in 2013.

    A National Commission on Military, National and Public Service was later set up to look at whether the draft should be extended to women.

    It concluded last year that doing so would be “a necessary and fair step” and “make it possible to draw on the talent of a unified nation in a time of national emergency”.

    Following the Senate committee vote, Russ Vought, a former senior official in Donald Trump’s administration, said: “No, you are not drafting our daughters.”

    Nearly two million American men were drafted between 1964 and 1973.

    A Senate official close to the committee told ABC News: “This isn’t our grandfather’s military. It’s a different world.

    “If we’re going to have a draft then women have to be involved. You can’t fight with one hand tied behind your back.”

    Asked about the issue last year, Joe Biden said: “The United States does not need a larger military, and we don’t need a draft at this time.

    “I would, however, ensure that women are also eligible to register for the Selective Service System so that men and women are treated equally in the event of future conflicts.”

    Last month the US Supreme Court declined to rule on the issue, saying it expected Congress to do so soon.

    Ria Tabacco Mar, director of women’s rights at the American Civil Liberties Union, said: “The requirement that only men, but not women, register for the draft is one of the last examples of overt sex discrimination written into our federal law.

    “Like many laws that appear to benefit women, men-only registration actually impedes women’s full participation in civic life.

    “It reflects an outmoded view that, in the event of a draft, women’s primary duty would be to the home front.”

    Robert Spowart
    26 Jul 2021 7:43AM
    “The decision was approved in private by the US Senate armed services committee and would require anyone aged 18 to 25, of either gender, to make themselves available for call-up in a potential future large-scale war.”

    FFS Telegraph! Gender?? The word you are looking for is SEX.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/07/26/us-may-force-women-register-military/

    1. “But America’s daughters shouldn’t be drafted against their will.”
      What about America’s sons? The girls want equality, let them have equality, not just cherrypick the nice bits.
      BTW, Norwegian women are subject to conscription in exactly the same way, and do the same things, as the men, and they seem happy to.

      1. My thought exactly. Women wanted equality, but now they’ve got it they don’t want the awkward bits.

  10. 335845+ up tick,
    Morning Each,
    Many of us knew that when we heard, post victory count comments,
    “victory is ours leave it to the tories” we as a nation were heading for the basement, may the treacherous confirmed it with the nine month delay.

    At the time I posted it was likened to a three stage semi reentry missile
    as in, the wretch cameron as the launch trigger, treacherous treasa the
    intermediate stage the final reentry pilot at that time unknown, took yet another political farce with peoples participation to instil the turkish delight AKA the fat controller, johnson.

    This political cartel are far from being inept they are world leaders in treachery even to the forward thinking extent of the disappearance of
    Taxus Baccata material.

    Monday 26 July: Migrant vessels must be made to conform to commercial standards

    Great political strides will now be taken to morally legalise the governance orchestrated invasion, ongoing.

    Repress, reset,replace is being firmed up daily, DOVER is a very LOUD warning klaxon,yet to be born indigenous children cannot hear it but WILL without any doubt, guaranteed,suffer the odious consequences.

  11. Morning again

    SIR – I too had a problem discussing my gas bill, which was registered in my husband’s name (Letters, July 23), and was told that he needed to contact them. Instead, I called back and said that I now identified as Derek Martin. That did the trick.

    Debbie Martin

    Princes Risborough, Buckinghamshire

    SIR – I recently rang my online savings bank and, after answering all the security questions satisfactorily, I was informed that I had not passed and that my account was blocked. When I asked why I was told that due to “security reasons” they could tell me, and I was disconnected.

    Calling back, I spoke to a supervisor who, after a 20 minute wait, said that I could now access my funds. The reason: “I sounded too young to be 72 but, after listening to my previous calls, they now believed I was me.”

    Stephen Woodbridge-Smith

    Tavistock, Devon

    1. Very Happy Birthday, Delboy! Hope it’s fun-filled and joyous! 🎁🎂🍾

    4. Thank you, Sir. 85 is a number and there is another in my head which is less than 60.
      I was lucky when the genes were dished out which is why I will not accept the government’s gene therapy.
      I am fit, active and busy. Not really a typical 85 year old.
      I am here every day but only post if I have something to say which might interest other NOTTLers.

    6. We do not know each other but we do have something in common! It’s my birthday too!!!

      1. 335845+ up ticks,
        Morning C,
        Latch lifters don’t come cheap, take anthony
        charlie lynton for instance….

    2. The state’s remuneration arrangements are irreparably broken. And people whose businesses have been ruined get nothing and go bankrupt while politicians and state employees give themselves lavish pay rises.

      The seeds of revolution are being planted and watered.

      1. 335845+ up ticks,
        Morning R,
        “The seeds of revolution are being planted and watered.”

        As far as I am concerned them seeds were planted 30 years ago by the party that designed & activated the referendum,planted in good patriotic faith.

        Sad to say post referendum via the lab/lib/con close shop
        coalition, those same seeds have been watered & given succour via the polling booth in a successful odious undermining manner.

    3. In government circles nothing succeeds more than abject failure. If those responsible for hiring this person sacked him because he is failing in his objective then his failure would be reflected on to them, and that would never do.

      1. 335845+ up ticks,
        Morning KtK,
        Then the failure reflecting on to them would give rise to
        them granting themselves yet another rise for themselves , for failure.
        From the catch 22 department.

  16. Funny man, is our Ian. Now we know exactly where to send them…

    SIR – Paying France millions of pounds to prevent migrants coming to the UK will not deal with the problem. These people have travelled for months from lawless countries and through other lawless countries to get to the English Channel. This is the last hurdle to freedom and, after what they have been through, this stretch of water is not going to stop them.

    We should be sending a boat every day to the French coast to bring these migrants to the UK so that we have proper records of who is arriving. They could then be housed in reception centres and vetted before being passed into the communities.

    Immigrants have been coming to England since at least the Viking days and they have helped to make this country what it is today. Today’s immigrants will also contribute over time and the skills they bring will make us even greater.

    Ian Tunnicliffe
    Broughton Astley, Leicestershire

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    1. [P.S. I see that the A Allan fellow is already up and about and causing mayhem BTL@DT letters no this very topic. Prepare for incoming.]

    2. “These people have travelled for months from lawless countries and through other lawless countries to get to the English Channel.”

      And with a clear avowed intention of turning this country into yet another lawless one, merely by their lawless presence.

        1. Morning, Paul.

          As one immigrant to another: did we bring our foul habits with us?

          1. Yes.
            Law-abiding, hard-work, taxpaying, samfunnsorientert, polite, attempt to speak the lingo, peaceful, picking up litter & being nice to cute kittens … all those filthy habits.
            Edit: And, in your case, Grizz, creative artistry and cheffing.

          4. Yes.
            Law-abiding, hard-work, taxpaying, samfunnsorientert, polite, attempt to speak the lingo, peaceful, picking up litter & being nice to cute kittens … all those filthy habits.
            Edit: And, in your case, Grizz, creative artistry and cheffing.

    3. Just omitting the tiny detail of them departing a safe country and entering ours illegally.

      1. Don’t think so – as far as I can make out, it’s a swanky, tarted up Holiday Let, sleeping 11 in baronial surroundings…’The Baron’ looks like a flock of sheep to me.

  17. Vaccine passports are a step on the road to Hell. 26 July 2021.

    Life has become an open book. When the Stasi listened in on private conversations at the height of the Cold War, it was a key element of Western identity that we found this repugnant, yet nowadays our personal details, from qualifications to relationship status, are found easily online, and data is traded in the marketplace. While we denounce China as an authoritarian state, we differ only by degree and method.

    This inversion is almost total. Within ten years the UK /EU will be Globalist Islamo-Fascist Police States while Russia and the Visegrad Group will be Family Oriented, Christian and White.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/07/26/vaccine-passports-step-road/

    2. Good morning, Delboy!
      Happy Birthday! and many more to come!
      Wishing you a better day than you would wish for yourself!

    4. Happy birthday, 85 not out.

      Three quick singles interspaced with a couple of sixes and you’re there.

      1. Indeed! If I last another 5 years I will have drawn my work pension for the same number of years that I worked for my employer.

        1. I’m already there for one employer, but I only worked 10 years with them.

          My father retired on what was a fabulous index-linked final salary pension. By the end he was getting more in pension than he ever earned while working, including bonuses.

          Gordon Brown ensured that for most of the private sector that would be history.

    6. Good grief – not another birthday!

      Very many happy returns from a fellow octogenarian!

      1. Many thanks. I am skipping in a club triples league this afternoon. My triple is in top spot.

        1. Many Happy Returns.
          Apart from the arrival of Delboy, were there any other newsworthy events in 1936?

  20. I see the DT journalism is up to its usual high standards, mixed metaphors etc…..stone the crows! (My emphasis)

    “Almost half of English adults gained weight over lockdown.
    People who put on weight during lockdown gained an average of half a stone, research by Public Health England (PHE) has found as it launched a new health drive. A survey found 41 per cent of adults in England said they had put on weight since social restrictions started in March 2020. Those who said they had gained weight reported adding an average of 4.1kg during the course of the pandemic, with 21 per cent saying they put on a stone or more. Nearly half of those who reported putting on weight said it had mainly been caused by bad dietary habits, such as snacking and comfort eating.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/covid-news-coronavirus-self-isolation-vaccine-cases-nhs-app/

  21. Good morning, all. Sort of sunny.

    Well – Lunnon was OK. Trains all ran on time; no delays or cancellations. About half the passengers on trains and Tubes were unmasked. At the Royal Academy, again, about half the people were masked. No one – anywhere (including resto) asked us to click on an app or took our names and addresses.

    It was just FABULOUS to hug my beloved grand-daughter for the first time in 20 months.

    The weather held fine until we left the resto at 3.30 to get the Tube – heavens opened! Fortunately only 250 yards to dash.

    We nearly missed the train home at Kings X – it was indicated at “Platform 0” which I assumed meant they were waiting for a platform number. No. There IS a Platform 0 at KX. “See it, Say It, Sort it” (endlessly on the trains…)

    In other news – I see that the Spamhead Slammer has apologised for saying something true because the Fulll Covidian branch of the permanently offended was, er, offended. Why don’t these wazzock politicians have the courage of their convictions?

    1. Why don’t these wazzock politicians have the courage of their convictions?

      They have no convictions! Morning Bill.

    4. My son was held up last night as his train to Palmer’s Green was delayed for an hour or so until the line was declared safe. He cycles into London at the weekend and after enjoying the scenery and the protesters, he returns by train. Yesterday he got soaked and was late phoning me.

      1. Looking at today’s reports of yesterday’s rain – we were extremely fortunate.

        1. The gods were well pleased with you and smiled upon you. Did you see the GD’s artwork ‘in the flesh’?

          2. Much that is truly impressive. Predictable over representation of BAMEs.

            NoTTLers: I recommend a quick scroll through the RA’s youngartist link posted by Bill

          6. I think they’re keeping everyone out, this is all I see:

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          7. Representational art – portraits, landscapes – generally disapproved of – kooky, weird, incomprehensible – welcomed.

    5. Was your girlie’s picture on display?
      I’m glad you had a super day. No rain here at all.

          1. You are slipping. I bored everyone about six weeks ago with the news AND a copy of the painting.

          2. Acksherley – I did remember.
            And I remember the pikcher.
            I wasn’t too sure how long the masterpiece was being hung and whether this was a new category.

            So up your left nostril with a wire brush …. Dahlink.

    6. How lovely to be able to go and bask in reflected glory! Well done to her.

      I was at the opening of a small town art club’s exhibition last night, in which I have a painting. I came away convinced anew that artists
      (a) are as thick as two short planks and
      (b) would clamber over their dying grandmothers in spiked shoes to get the chance at a solo exhibition.

  22. I have posted a message to GBNews alerting them to the fact that the government is planning to strip National Grid of its role keeping GB’s lights on as part of a proposed revolution in the electricity industry driven [would you believe] by Smart Digital Technologies. National Grid will lose its part at the heart of the industry as the government plans to replace it with an independent [ not really?] ” Future System Operator”
    This was reported by the Guardian [ I am not a reader but used to deliver the Manchester Guardian in my youth] The media doesn’t appear to have realised the enormity of the deluded government’s intentions and I sincerely hope that GBNews takes this topic on and links it to the government’s dictatorial behaviour.

    1. In the old days of the CEGB, one of their mandates was diversity of supply, to ensure the lights stayed on. I believe this was passed to National Grid on the breakup of the CEGB, and so who will actually seek to keep the ‘leccy flowing, now the whole UK is becoming more electrified? A massive outage now would be much more serious than it was in the 1970s and 1980s.

      1. Morning Oberst – the experts are in National Grid, not in the government or civil service. Another Covid type disaster on the horizon?

        1. Well, I guess it will make all the illegal immigrants feel right at home – the power doesn’t stay on to well where they came from, either. Just as AWK – wherever he is (probably sitting without power, waiting to log on when/if it’s back).

      2. The CEGB was a rare example of state intervention working well. If it ain’t broke…

        1. Yes. It was run by engineers, not politicians or ‘professional civil servants’

          3. The USA is the perfect example of the opposite. All import and export and interstate trade in electricity and gas is overseen by the FERC (Federal Energy Regulatory Commission) in Washington D.C., a bunch of civil servants who don’t know their watts from an ohm in the ground. Plus some magnificently stupid legislation dreamt up by politicians and inter state rivalry dating back to ‘IT’ (‘IT’ is the southern states’ term for the Civil War). Hence all the rolling brown-outs and black-outs from the 1960s and 1970s. The situation has improved in recent decades but is still a suboptimal mess.

          4. Rather like their health system, which is always held up as a horrible example when anyone dares to suggest that the NHS is not the envy of the world.

  23. “Big fall in Covid cases suggests third wave has peaked”

    Bollox – it means that millions have switched the effing app off so there far fewer (bogus) “cases”.

    2. Schools are closed, people are on holiday, I wonder how many of those cases were from schools?

  24. Idiot, woke, trendy, Townies. They make me sick. ATishoo of lies..

    Weed Thriller: Garden of weeds takes home gold at Royal Horticultural Society show

    The main weed in the garden – Ragwort – is described as a ‘native biennial which is a food source for a wide range of insects’

    By Crystal Jones 25 July 2021 • 8:43pm

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2021/07/25/TELEMMGLPICT000265539894_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwSX5rhseiWKOo9p9OQ-ymek.jpeg?imwidth=680
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    David Bate
    25 Jul 2021 9:07PM
    Ragwort is a dreadful weed, it will kill animals especially horses when eaten dry in hay. Law is that all landowners who have growing on their land they must destroy it by pulling and then burning. Seeds profusely and spreads rapidly

    Malcolm Burch
    25 Jul 2021 10:06PM
    I suggest these enthusiasts for Ragwort witness an animal dying from Ragwort poisoning. Whatever it benefits to insects, unfortunately this is a highly toxic weed that spreads at an alarming rate if uncontrolled. There is good reason why it is subject to legal controls.

    1. When out for a walk I will often pull ragwort up and dispose of it either into a convenient bin or onto a road where is quickly gets mashed up by passing traffic.

      I’ve even had a local farmer buy me a pint for my efforts!

        1. The two yellow plants on the extreme Left of the picture!
          An appropriate position for such a nasty, poisonous weed!

        4. Ragwort is rampant on waste ground, demolition sites and clearance areas. It grows anywhere. It is especially widespread along railway lines.

          4. I was in a small town in France once with my children, when we saw a family group of cyclists. Mum, Dad and two children, all wearing matching black and yellow striped lycra.

            I said to my children, what a marvelllous idea, we could be Team Blackbox with our very own lycra stripe. They were not begeistert.

    2. The RHS was, once upon time, not like this. But then the Hampton Court thing is merely a money spinner aimed at townies anyway…

      1. The Hampton Court Flower Show was devised by Historic Royal Palaces Agency as a way of making money to help pay for the upkeep of Hampton Court Palace.

        The premise was that visitors to the show in Home Park would not be so inclined to visit the Palace where the large numbers of foot traffic cause damage to the building fabric.

        Visitors to the Palace would be obliged to purchase separate tickets for the various ‘routes’ such as The Tudor Route, Queen’s Apartment, King’s Apartment etc., This further maximised revenue and reduced wear and tear.

    3. One local landowner – yes, I’m looking at you, Colchester Borough Council – does the square root of s0d-all about ragwort on its land.

    4. The law requires all land owners to destroy Yellow Ragwort.

      However you will find that Councils consider themselves above this law.

    5. It causes irreversible liver damage. That’s why you should wear gloves when you’re rooting it up.

    1. I bought one of those Epsom salts water filters a few months ago mainly so that I could filter the water for the coffee machine that kept furring up, use it all the time now, the water tastes really nice especially if you keep it in the fridge

      1. I lived in some really foul water areas in the UK (mid-Norfolk is especially disgusting with green water and stalactites hanging from taps!). A decent filter was really needed there.

        Here in Sweden the water is clear and delicious straight from the tap. I stilll use my filter, though, because it is hard water and the calcium still fouls up the kettles and coffee machines much more quickly if the water is not filtered first.

        1. “Colchester water” is a tekkie term amongst plumbers for ‘furrring up pipes in record time’.

        2. When I lived in North Yorkshire, I had to descale my kettle and shower head about every 4-6-weeks. I also used a filter jug. Since I moved home to Birmingham 23 years ago, I haven’t had to descale anything at all. Luvverly water from the Elan Valley in Wales.

  26. 335845+ up ticks,
    Would this be to counter the jabby dodgers move among students ?

    Dt,
    Live Coronavirus latest news: Students will need to be fully vaccinated to attend lectures under PM’s plans

    1. Next: students will have to prove that their parents are not landowners or members of the bourgeoisie.

  27. WARNING from The Grimes….!

    “Grizzly came out of nowhere: Lucky prospector recounts his five-day ordeal”

  28. Right, That’s me off to Rugeley to collect an auction purchase for t’Lad.

    TTFN all.

  29. One of the legacies of lockdown is surely the entrenchment of wine o’clock, our way to mark the shift from daytime to evening during those endless groundhog days. Yes, restrictions have eased, and our local is no longer The Staying Inn, but the nightly ritual of a tipple or two can be a hard habit to break.

    Changing behaviour requires a shift in mindset (which in old money, means you have to want to) combined with practical ways to replace the old rituals with healthier new ones. So, if you are ready to nix the nightcap, here are three simple techniques to try:

    1 Think ahead Focus on how you’ll feel tomorrow. The instant gratification gained from that glass of red is tempting, but before you pop the cork, stop and consider the knock-on effects of just one or two drinks.

    According to the Sleep Foundation, even quite small amounts of alcohol (two 150ml glasses of wine for men, one glass for women) has been shown to decrease sleep quality by 24 per cent. This means lower energy levels the next day and you may find it harder to concentrate.

    Daily Telegraph, Health, Mon July 26.

    I can attest to the veracity of this. I gave up drinking red wine five years ago (and white wine four years ago). I was a hopeless insomniac after just one glass on a Saturday evening. Even now, when my alcohol intake is limited to just one single-malt Scotch whisky on a Saturday evening (or an occasional G&T), I still sleep much better on the other six nights of the week.

    Whilst I realise that drinking alcohol is a personal thing and it affects everyone differently; I made the decision that to become “joyless” (i.e. only drinking water, tea or coffee at celebratory times) and thus being able to enjoy a full night’s undisturbed sleep, was a small price to pay to avoid the despicable agonies of insomnia.

    1. Whilst you are right, alcohol is seductive and many people struggle to break out of its spell. I have found taking breaks from it easier as I get older but for many the way out of their problems, like Manchester, is a bottle of Gordons.

      Sometimes you can’t save people from themselves though. I have a close friend who never seems to get a good night’s sleep but, despite my entreaties, hasn’t tried a break from her 2 glasses of wine a night habit that’s she’s had for the 10+ years I’ve known her.

    1. Cancer patients awaiting operations are cancelled due to Covid.

      So get the jabs and live longer with pain…….great!

      1. 335845 + up ticks,
        Morning P,
        “So get the jabs and live longer” we are nowhere near sure on that one.

          1. Hi Plum!

            That’s what D and I are doing – paid-off mortgage and will do equity release to pay for the first one who needs serious treatment that they will not get on the NHS.

  31. 335845+ up ticks,
    May one ask, the milking of the herd is to continue via the governance party is it ?

    Dt,
    Calais MP: British Millions Given to France to Stop Migrants ‘Going to Waste’, Boats Won’t Be Stopped

    1. Why would France want to stop the migrants? They’re nothing but trouble there and clamping down is unlikely to affect the number entering the EU then transiting to France.

      IMO we only have ourselves to blame. The populations of poor countries continue to boom and we can hardly blame them for trying to get here where even the poorest or useless have lives of privilege and wealth that most of the world’s population can only dream of. The pressure is only going to increase and I can’t see politicians taking the measures that work, all requiring a brutal approach unacceptable to our pampered population.

      In perspective, the greater changes are through the immigrants we let in legally. Governments have failed equally there.

      1. And we send the French money for which they are very grateful and say:
        THANK YOU SUCKERS!
        Johnson is a devoted disciple of Teraita May and her negotiating ploy of giving in to the demands of others without demanding anything in return. Even Farage came under the influence of the evil witch: why did he remove Brexit Party candidates from contesting seats held by remainer Conservatives without demanding any quid pro quo? The consequences are: Parliament still packed with remainers, EU fishermen in UK waters and total chaos in Northern Ireland.

  32. I am not a violent person but I would make an exception for this twat Ian Tunnicliffe who advocates sending a boat daily to France to pick up immigrants and bring them to Britain. The problem will be solved if the reverse were implimented

    1. 335845+ up ticks,
      Morning FA,
      Sounds like an indigenous unborn child of the future abuser to me,should be on the child sex offenders list.

    2. Good morning, Mr. Alec! How are things going with you?
      I posted earlier that the heat has clearly gone for Tuncliffes remaining brain cell and that as a Nimby in a land locked county, he is a complete moron!

      1. Good morning Sue not too bad thanks , still coming to terms. How are you?
        Haven’t scrolled through the posts yet but I agree

    3. F_A:
      I did a little digging in the National Electoral Roll and found out where Mr Ian Tunnicliffe lives – in a nice, 4-bedroom house in a ‘nice’ area southwest of Leicester.
      Google StreetView shows that it has a big double garage (could house quite a few immigrants) and although they’ve lived there since 2002, the house was put on the market in August 2020 (but apparently not yet sold). The internet knows everything about you if you know where to look – even more interesting is that this ties in with Bernie’s Tweet in Ogga’s item above yours!

      1. I wonder why he doesn’t live in Leicester centre with all the immigrants he so loves.

        1. I wonder why he doesn’t live in Leicester centre with all the immigrants he so loves.

          These people almost never do.

      2. There are several housing developments (executive dwelling, no doubt) proposed for Broughton Astley.
        Has Mr. T ever wondered why they are necessary? I wonder if he is for or agin them?

        1. Morning! He’ll be in favour of as many little boxes made of ticky tacky as can be built but of course not in his back yard.

      1. I have written to the RNLI, of which I have been a Shoreline member for over 50 years, stating my views on their policy of offering a free taxi service for illegal immigrants.

        I have had no reply – not even an acknowledgement of receipt of my communication.

        If we had run our business like this we would have had to close down many years ago before Covid was even a glimmer in a megalomaniac’s eye.

        .

        1. I used to support the RNLI but gave up when they sacked people for their choice of coffee mug!

    5. Perhaps we should set up a system of ‘one in, one out’ where people like him can volunteer to live in the country where the migrant is from, leaving their possessions and savings for the new man. I’m sure he’ll volunteer.

      1. ‘Morning, Dale!

        One in >three out, is more what we need. In fact none >100,000+ out might be addressing the problem.

    6. His letter has given great joy to BTL commentators.
      They haven’t had so much vitriolic fun since the old queen died.

          1. He is looking very unwell and appears to be aging rapidly. As a lapsed Catholic, I’m not entirely sure what I’m allowed to pray for but I’m doing it anyway just in case there is a God.

          2. The real Devil will want first dibs, Blair’s been claiming his mantle for years.

          3. None of that hanging about in Purgatory now, I understand.
            Straight up – or in his case – down.

      2. ‘Morning, Anne.
        Particularly Am Faggot whatever his name is. I note that most of his comments get just 2 likes – him and whoever – I can’t believe that he’d have a wife or girlfriend, he’s so boring.

  35. From Twitter:

    ” Bob Moran
    @bobscartoons

    Here are some words that are now completely meaningless:

    ‘Case’
    ‘Vulnerable’
    ‘Protect’
    ‘Vaccine’
    ‘Save’
    ‘Covid’
    ‘Science’
    ‘Overwhelmed’
    ‘Pandemic’
    ‘Variant’
    ‘Model’
    ‘Immunity’
    ‘Expert’
    ‘Tragic’
    ‘Test’
    ‘Surge’
    ‘Outbreak’

    Feel free to add your own. “

  36. Tom Slater
    Britain’s creeping authoritarianism
    Support for censorship is on the rise
    26 July 2021, 10:00am

    When a top Edinburgh school announced earlier this month that it would stop teaching To Kill a Mockingbird, citing the novel’s ‘white saviour motif’ and use of the n-word, the response ranged from uproar to bafflement.

    We may be living in increasingly censorious times, it seems, but banning books, even just on a school’s curriculum, still has a bad smell around it.

    Well, perhaps not for much longer. In an alarming new poll, conducted for The Spectator by Redfield and Wilton Strategies, 40 per cent of respondents said they supported the UK government censoring books with content that it deems sexist, homophobic or racist. Just 30 per cent were opposed while 24 per cent would neither support nor oppose it.

    Presumably the British public won’t be clamouring for books like Harper Lee’s classic to be cancelled — not least because To Kill a Mockingbird is actually an anti-racist book, a detail that seems to have escaped the philistines who work at Edinburgh’s James Gillespie’s High School. But it seems that a clampdown on other, properly ‘hateful’ books might enjoy a level of public support.

    Here we see that racism, sexism and homophobia have replaced dusty old concepts like blasphemy and obscenity as the great taboos of our age. In a sense, of course, that’s no bad thing. Morally, to most people’s minds, it’s entirely fine to take the mick out of religion, while being a massive racist is definitely not.

    But the point is that, whether we’re talking about Lady Chatterley’s Lover or Mein Kampf, a book shouldn’t be banned just because we disapprove of it — even if we violently hate what it says. It’s a simple point, but apparently it needs restating.

    Part of the problem with standing up to the censorship of art and literature today is that — outside of the easy cases — those who might previously be relied upon to join you are often missing in action. Sometimes they’re even on the other side these days.

    When Harry Potter books were being burned by fundamentalist Christians in the US in the early 2000s, the publishing world mocked and criticised them. Now that J.K. Rowling has been accused of ‘transphobia’ — for daring to believe in biological sex and women-only spaces — such people are nowhere to be seen.

    Staff at one of Rowling’s publishers even threatened to down tools on production of her new children’s book over her views. Harry Potter book-burnings have also made a comeback — only this time it’s trans activists setting them alight on TikTok.

    Another problem here is the law, and the tone it sets for the rest of society. Hate speech of various kinds is illegal in this country. So perhaps it isn’t so surprising that people see top-down state censorship of ‘hateful’ books as entirely legitimate or even desirable.

    While the excesses of wokeness have helped put free speech firmly on the agenda in the UK, the debate is often a little partial. We argue the toss over the ridiculousness of cancelling feminists for believing that sex is a thing without ever really grasping the nettle — that free speech is for all or it is for none at all.

    The government has run into this itself with its crusade for free speech on campus. Gavin Williamson has quite rightly said that universities should be places in which any idea can be aired, even genuinely offensive ones. Sunlight is the best disinfectant and all. But when someone raised the example of Holocaust deniers, his response was essentially ‘well, obviously not them’.

    If anything, recent years have given us a harsh lesson in why censoring ‘hate speech’ is a rocky road to go down. One man’s hate speech is another man’s firmly held moral conviction. To most people, J.K. Rowling is a beloved children’s author; to an angry fringe, she is a fire-breathing transphobe — or Satan’s handmaiden. If we concede that speech should be silenced, we cannot control who will be setting the standards.

    We might think that we know racism, homophobia or sexism when we see them. But in an age in which those terms are thrown around pretty liberally, there’s no telling who might be swept up in the next cancellation campaign — or fall foul of some future state censor.

    It is also high time we took on this odious idea that free speech is the enemy of minorities. The truth is the exact opposite. Free speech exists to protect the minority — whether you’re an ethnic minority or sexual group or those who hold to a minority view. The majority can usually take care of themselves.

    If we’re serious about challenging bigotry, then censoring even the genuine bigots is just about the worst thing we could do. Doing so lends hatred glamour and makes understanding, dissecting and challenging it all but impossible for us as a society.

    Banning books makes for a fearful, illiberal and ignorant society — not a just, tolerant and enlightened one. We could do with remaking that case, it seems.

    Tom Slater is deputy editor of Spiked

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/britain-s-creeping-authoritarianism

    2. Just as well I’ve got a good stock of Evelyn Waugh books. There are some laugh out loud passages in “Scoop” that would make the woke crowd apoplectic.

          4. Talking bout my generation?

            Why don’t they just f..f..f..f..fade away they sang euphemistically.

  38. Rabbie Burns has gone all edgy…

    Edinburgh Art Festival: Anti-Brexit project sees Auld Lang Syne sung in Gaelic and EU languages

    A choir of recorded voices from across the continent will sing the New Year’s anthem in an exhibition called ‘Sound of the Union’

    By Daniel Sanderson, SCOTTISH CORRESPONDENT
    26 July 2021 • 6:00am
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    Nigerian-born artist Emeka Ogboh who has created a Brexit inspired art installation which plays Auld Lang Syne in 28 languages
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    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/07/26/edinburgh-art-festival-anti-brexit-project-sees-auld-lang-syne/

    2. 335845+up ticks,
      Morning LD,
      No money in it, ask “who has the booster franchise”

    3. To start with it was one jab – – then “two gives better protection” – – now a booster – – AND flu jab at same time – – and we have no clue what effect the lot will have. No doubt more jabs to come. Not had any, spent a day in hospital 12 days ago – mask on all time, temp and BP every few minutes, swabs up the nose – nothing.

      1. It occurs to me that Sweden was let off the lockdown hook because they’re already inserting microchips in hands.

          1. I read on an EU “fact check” site that they’ve had 6000 volunteers so far. Quite a way to go but why would anyone take it at all?

          2. I have to say that I’ve not heard about it yet. However, if and when I do I have my retort ready.

        2. I didn’t know that. Do you have a reference for that? Not because I don’t believe you but it would be useful to be able to pass the information on.

          If you had any doubts what this is all about….

          2. I’ve asked around here and no one I know has heard of this. The reaction was the same from everyone I asked!

      2. I should hope that by now many will have understood that the fraudulent RT-PCR tests have been driving this scam with the connivance of the UN, WHO, CCP funded Universities and corrupt governments and their medico advisers.

        The shit show has now backfired because the ‘vaccines’ do not work but instead encourage the spread of mutations of the wild virus targeted, to which the ‘vaccine’ offers no protection (Indian or Delta variant). In addition the ‘vaccines’ have maimed and killed thousands with serious adverse reactions.

        Despite claims to the contrary, hospitalisation is split 50/50 between vaccinated and unvaccinated. The ruinous lockdowns, fear mongering with mandates for face masks snd other devious coercive measures has to be the Fraud of the Century.

  40. ‘Morning, all. It’s reported that the Czech Republic has signed the right to bear arms into it’s Constitution in defiance of Brussels, which is frantically trying to disarm the peoples of all EU member states. Here’s the link:

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/07/24/czech-senate-approves-amendment-granting-right-to-bear-arms-in-constitution/

    The photo in the header shows a very young lad aiming a Czech vz 58 assault rifle. It’s a good weapon, very reliable and well engineered like all Czech firearms (it was a favourite of the UVF in N. Ireland during the so-called ‘Troubles’) but somebody really needs to teach that wee man how to hold it correctly. As for the little lass standing with him, she’s far too close and in danger of being struck by an ejected cartridge case!
    :¬(

    2. Semtex is also a Czech invention, Duncan. It looks and smells like marzipan.

      [Don’t put it on your cake!]

      1. ‘Afternoon, Grizz. Prior to the 1990s Semtex was odourless. The ‘marzipan’ smell was added to make it easier to detect because it had become so popular with terrorist groups (such as the PIRA).

        1. I know. We used to make pretend IEDs out of marzipan when I worked at the airport. We would use them for X-ray training to teach recruits how to identify explosives [both semtex and marzipan are organic so share the same organic ‘footprint’ in detection equipment].

          1. I put my electric toothbrush and my kindle in my carry on bag. At the last minute i also put a sandwich in to eat on the aircraft.

            I got stopped. :@(

            Afternoon Mr Grizz.

    2. I knew that some new sports were introduced this year – – didn’t know that nail biting was one of them.

    4. Is his partner the same person as his husband?

      As a matter of interest has a husband and wife team ever woman Olympic gold medal?

          2. Do you remember that video clip of a Chinese peasant woman eating live baby birds straight out of their nest?

    2. Morning, LD

      Oh don’t set BT off on one. He has a thing about doormice and NoTTLers.

    3. There once was a Dormouse who lived in a bed
      Of delphiniums (blue) and geraniums (red)
      And all the day long he’d a wonderful view
      Of geraniums (red) and delphiniums (blue)

      A Doctor came hurrying round, and he said:
      “Tut-tut, I am sorry to find you in bed.
      Just say ‘Ninety-nine’, while I look at your chest…
      Don’t you find that chrysanthemums answer the best?”

      The Dormouse looked round at the view and replied
      (When he’d said “Ninety-nine”) that he’d tried and he’d tried,
      And much the most answering things that he knew
      Were geraniums (red) and delphiniums (blue).

      The Doctor stood frowning and shaking his head,
      And he took up his shiny silk hat as he said:
      “What the patient requires is a change,” and he went
      To see some chrysanthemum people in Kent.

      The Dormouse lay there, and he gazed at the view
      Of geraniums (red) and delphiniums (blue),
      And he knew there was nothing he wanted instead
      Of delphiniums (blue) and geraniums (red).

      A. A. Milne

      1. Hi, John.

        I’m 1/2 way through K. Wilko’s latest, “The Child in the Photo”. I think he’s going off the boil.

        2. I’m about a third way through Robert Harris’s V2 and so far it is a gripping tale. Half price at Sainsbury’s.

          1. Just ordered it from Amazon for £5 including free delivery. Thanks for the tip.

    3. Is that the truly ghastly June Sarpong? I wonder what qualifies her for such a well remunerated position? Any suggestions?

    1. I’m not going there,……..the Chinese coming second in this so obviously close contest could be the start of WW3.

      1. Bezos ex-wife got 50 billion in the settlement and the icing on the cake was he also left the planet.

    1. There’s never been a better opportunity for this very unpopular person to convert his own loft space and stay there.

    2. …and only Enid Blyton books in the children’s section of the library.

        1. St. Nicholas Church was demolished in the 1950s to make way for a hideous concrete box to house the Co-op.
          The Co-op moved out years ago and the building has become the usual eyesore.

      6. What always strikes me about these old representations is how smart everybody looks. I used to have a dog like that.

    5. I’ve studied that picture at length. I can see the Butcher and the Baker, but I’m buggered if I can see the Candlestick-Maker.

      1. I think he went out of business when Anne Summers opened her ‘male’ order business…..

      2. I think he went out of business when Anne Summers opened her ‘male’ order business…..

    6. I’ve studied that picture at length. I can see the Butcher and the Baker, but I’m buggered if I can see the Candlestick-Maker.

  51. A care home worker convicted of the infanticide of her newborn daughter, who was found dead in a park, has been handed a community order.

    Babita Rai, 24, was previously cleared by a jury at Winchester Crown Court of murdering the child, who suffered injuries including multiple skull fractures and was believed to have lived for less than six hours.

    Her body was discovered by a gardener in a park in Aldershot Hampshire several days later on May 19 2017.

    Before the infanticide, Rai was of good character and had not committed any offences in Nepal or the United Kingdom.

    The judge said Rai was living away from her home country, did not speak English, and was unable to access services for pregnant women and new mothers.

    “You were wholly dependant on your family, for whom this baby would have been regarded as a curse not a blessing,” he told her.

    Rai has spent 385 days in custody, equivalent to a sentence of more than two years, which would have been “particularly difficult” due to the Covid-19 pandemic and her not speaking English.

    The judge said a prison sentence was not required for public protection and would not address any risk Rai may pose to a future child of hers, particularly one from an unwanted pregnancy.

    “None of that is to suggest that this offence was not serious, it was,” he told Rai, of Reeves Road, Aldershot.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/hampshire-aldershot-none-winchester-crown-court-hampshire-police-b947683.html

      1. The DM said that she was a care worker.

        That hardly invalidates your question, it just gave her a legal way in.

        1. A care worker that doesn’t speak English!

          Those whom the God’s would destroy they first make mad!

          1. Doesn’t speak English when it comes to court.

            As for no prison time because she cannot speak English, why not lock her up and mandate English lessons.

    3. And there was that chap, a few weeks back, who didn’t realise that raping your daughter is not allowed. Easy mistake to make, I suppose, if you look around Norfolk.

    4. And there was that chap, a few weeks back, who didn’t realise that raping your daughter is not allowed. Easy mistake to make, I suppose, if you look around Norfolk.

    5. George Elliott dealt with this subject in Adam Bede. Minus the head crushing.

    6. George Elliott dealt with this subject in Adam Bede. Minus the head crushing.

  52. Russia starts work on two new ‘Doomsday planes’ for use in nuclear war. 26 July 2021.

    Russia is on track to build two new “Doomsday planes” designed to serve as a war room for the Kremlin in case of a nuclear attack.

    The new plane model, named for its ability to withstand a nuclear blast, would work as a potential aerial command post for top officials.

    As always with Russia stories you have to read the small print though the real surprise here is that they do not already have them. The US has had such planes under the Nightwatch designation for over forty years. This said it is unlikely that they will ever be built, the expense and long lead time militates against it.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/07/26/russia-starts-work-two-new-doomsday-planes-use-nuclear-war/

    1. The new aircraft class is called the Zveno-3C, and the planes are expected to eventually replace the Ilyushin Il-80 airborne command and control aircraft, informally dubbed ‘Doomsday’ planes, which currently serve in the Russian air forces. Those planes were developed in the late 1980s on the basis of the Ilyushin Il-86 airliner and introduced into service with the military in 1992. Three of the four Il-80s built remain in service, and they are based at the Chkalovsky Airbase outside Moscow.

  53. University Challenge is on again tonight. Teams of highly-educated young chaps and chapesses answering all manner of esoteric questions on a myriad of subjects. I love pitting my wits against them.

    Sometimes, though, it is too easy. A fortnight ago, a team from Glasgow University thought that either Falmouth or Plymouth were situated where Bath is (the ‘mouth’ in the names didn’t give them even a hint of a coastal clue); and they also thought that Exeter was situated where Guildford is.

    What happened to a proper, balanced, all-round education?

    1. They were Scots, Grizz. Says it all – they nothing about England – except to hate it.

      2. Exactly, they know about Carlisle because they go there to get drunk away from puritan condemnation but that is it – except for those that venture south and end up running things.

        2. We used to describe Scots living south of Carter Bar as ‘union leaders, engineers or journalists’

          1. Father in law was a journalist but I doubt that his views on unions would have led to him being elected a union leader.

        3. Damned predictive text.

          Did you mean “except for those that venture south and end up running ruining things.”

    2. And in the intro, when they mention the question asker, you say Bamber Gascoigne, Admit it

      2. Yo, Tryers.

        In Bamber’s day all contestants told you which subject they were reading. Under Paxo they are ‘studying’ ‘doing’, or ‘after’ a degree in whatever.

    3. Started when they closed rather than expand the Grammer Schools. Ended single sex schools and even turned the secondary moderns into comprehnsives. I went to an all boys state secondary modern and had a good education far better than my children. As for today xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

      1. I also went to an all-boys state secondary modern. I would challenge the vast majority of Blair’s (and Major’s) new “uni”-generation to a general knowledge quiz and I would expect to beat them all hands-down.

        1. I want to test my theory that the average IQ of students at British universities is less than 100!

          1. That’s because they are applying “positive” discrimination in favour of those that normally wouldn’t make the cut.

          2. And then these “highly qualified” people will be taken on by government and NGOs, to perpetuate the government’s agenda!

        2. I want to test my theory that the average IQ of students at British universities is less than 100!

      2. I also went to an all-boys state secondary modern. I would challenge the vast majority of Blair’s (and Major’s) new “uni”-generation to a general knowledge quiz and I would expect to beat them all hands-down.

    4. Started when they closed rather than expand the Grammer Schools. Ended single sex schools and even turned the secondary moderns into comprehnsives. I went to an all boys state secondary modern and had a good education far better than my children. As for today xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

  54. Another conspiracy theory laid to rest.
    Unable to distinguish between CV-19 or influenza. Now, all those who doubted that influenza really had gone missing last Winter can reflect positively on their belief that the government were lying.
    PCR inventor, Dr K Mullis did declare that it shouldn’t be used for diagnosis because anyone can be found to be suffering from anything if the CT rate was wound up high enough.

    I doubt that Johnson & Co will take any notice.

    On the subject of Johnson, has anyone else noticed the report in the Times that Johnson was raging over the weekend about the slow take-up of the potion by young people. Johnson now looking at plans to force students to have been double jabbed before attending lectures etc. This has nothing to do with health, it is pure spite from a man who is either out of control or not in control. Maybe both.

    https://twitter.com/GeordieTory/status/1419582381481136128

    1. The PCR PTestilence:

      1. Experts compiled three datasets with officials from the states of Massachusetts, New York and Nevada that conclude:“Up to 90% of the people who tested positive did not carry a virus.”

      2. The Wadworth Center, a New York State laboratory, analyzed the results of its July tests at the request of the NYT: 794 positive tests with a Ct of 40: “With a Ct threshold of 35, approximately half of these PCR tests would no longer be considered positive,” said the NYT. “And about 70% would no longer be considered positive with a Ct of 30! “

      3. An appeals court in Portugal has ruled that the PCR process is not a reliable test for Sars-Cov-2, and therefore any enforced quarantine based on those test results is unlawful.

      4. A new study from the Infectious Diseases Society of America, found that at 25 cycles of amplification, 70% of PCR test “positives” are not “cases” since the virus cannot be cultured, it’s dead. And by 35: 97% of the positives are non-clinical.

      5. PCR is not testing for disease, it’s testing for a specific RNA pattern and this is the key pivot. When you crank it up to 25, 70% of the positive results are not really “positives” in any clinical sense, since it cannot make you or anyone else sick

      So, in summary, with regard to our current “casedemic”, positive tests as they are counted today do not indicate a “case” of anything. They indicate that viral RNA was found in a nasal swab. It may be enough to make you sick, but according to the New York Times and their experts, probably won’t. And certainly not sufficient replication of the virus to make anyone else sick. But you will be sent home for ten days anyway, even if you never have a sniffle. And this is the number the media breathlessly reports… and is used to fearmonger mask mandates and lockdowns nationwide…

      1. I don’t have it to hand but I have seen a freedom of information letter from an NHS trust confirming they are running on 45 cycles on the PCR test
        I imagine you could get a “Positive” off a mango
        Oh wait didn’t some African President (now dead) do exactly that…………

        1. So an NHS cake test could well interpret a Battenberg as being highly explosive.🤔

          1. Hanging on the telephone? Cyanide in the drawing room? Revolver in the library?

        2. It’s possible that dogs could be trained to distiguish between SARS-CoV-2 and influenza from just smelling a fart.

        2. I’ve spent some time watching and reading a couple of sites in the USA: Del Bigtree on Highwire and Stew Peters. There is a feeling that the narrative is changing, slowly but irrevocably. Dr David Martin, an expert on the US patent system put a huge spanner in the CV-19 works when he was interviewed by Reiner Fullmich and he has recently given a much less technical interview with Stew Peters. Dr Martin is scathing about Fauci and others and does not pull any punches.

          Peters regularly hosted Dr Jane Ruby who is researching many aspects of the “pandemic” and especially the jab.. After several hard hitting exposures over the last few weeks she had her Twitter account suspended, it remains so today.

        3. I’ve spent some time watching and reading a couple of sites in the USA: Del Bigtree on Highwire and Stew Peters. There is a feeling that the narrative is changing, slowly but irrevocably. Dr David Martin, an expert on the US patent system put a huge spanner in the CV-19 works when he was interviewed by Reiner Fullmich and he has recently given a much less technical interview with Stew Peters. Dr Martin is scathing about Fauci and others and does not pull any punches.

          Peters regularly hosted Dr Jane Ruby who is researching many aspects of the “pandemic” and especially the jab.. After several hard hitting exposures over the last few weeks she had her Twitter account suspended, it remains so today.

  55. From the DM. Dr. Pemberton is not Piers Morgan!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9823953/DR-MAX-PEMBERTON-never-say-Dont-panic.html

    DR MAX PEMBERTON: Why you should never say ‘Don’t panic!’

    Empty supermarket shelves, manufacturing grinding to a halt, shops closed, a struggling transport system, bin collections suspended, cancelled operations and hospital outpatient delays.

    We’ve seen all of these in recent weeks, not because of the pandemic, but thanks to the ‘pingdemic’, the catastrophic fallout of the Test and Trace app. As Covid cases have risen, a large number of sectors from hospitality to health care have been hit by staff being ‘pinged’ by the app and told to self-isolate.

    Empty shelves caused by staff shortages along the supply chain have been the most obvious manifestation of this and it has prompted the Government to warn against ‘panic-buying’.

    From a psychological perspective, this is disastrous — it will prompt those who hadn’t thought about panic buying towards it. And, as this happens, more see it happening, which prompts more urging not to panic buy . . . and so it spirals.

    We are in the midst of a crisis, yet just like Lance Corporal Jones from Dad’s Army, the Government seem to be doing little more than the political equivalent of running around shouting ‘don’t panic!’. And it’s going to solve absolutely nothing.

    Panic buying is driven by a fear of the unknown and the belief that a dramatic event warrants a dramatic response. The more something is seen as being dramatic, the more extreme we feel the response needs to be.

    It is fuelled by anxiety and a need to feel in control, not actual necessity. And the scarcer things become, the more we believe we need them.

    Rather than putting us off in a crisis, there’s evidence the longer we have to queue for things and the more effort we have to put in to getting essentials, the more relief we feel when we get them. So perversely, panic buying helps manage our anxiety.

    Telling us not to do it only makes us panic more.

    The whole pandemic has been an interesting example of how often our fear of something can make things worse.

    Except for an initial run on toilet rolls in March 2020 (again, prompted by people being asked not to panic buy), there have been no pandemic-related supply issues for basics.

    Yet now we are seeing empty shelves and it’s not because of Covid-19, it’s because of a daft app that we created in part to manage our anxiety about the virus.

    In fact, the past few months have been a case study in how not to do things from a psychological perspective.

    What we needed from the start was a sensible, calm, rational discussion about the realities of the virus. We needed to remind people that the aim was to prevent the NHS from becoming overwhelmed, to minimise Covid’s impact on our lives and protect the most vulnerable as best we can, not to try to get to zero infections, or even deaths, as this will never happen.

    From the start, we needed to learn to live with it.

    Instead, the Government’s confusing messaging has had a polarising effect, creating two distinct groups within the population.

    For some, the constant confusion, flip-flopping and moving of goalposts has created a sense of frustration and irritation. They’ve simply given up. They’ve become complacent and dismissive, bored and fatigued with the whole thing.

    I think this is particularly evident in the young who, understandably, feel they’ve put 18 months of their life on hold for something that isn’t likely to harm them anyway. And now there isn’t, apparently, any end in sight for the restrictions.

    This isn’t helpful if we face a further wave, as these people are unlikely to heed any warnings about it, unlikely to self-isolate when necessary and will resist further attempts to curtail their freedoms.

    Yet for others, they remain in a constant, heightened state of fear and anxiety.

    The confusion from the Government has further compounded their worries and this sense of things being in flux and uncertainty has made them move towards being increasingly cautious.

    The Government’s confused messaging has helped to create a new era of permanent Covid terror among this group of the population.

    We’ve lost sight that this virus is not particularly deadly or even that debilitating for the vast majority of people, certainly compared to infections such as HIV and TB, both of which we’ve learned to live with rather than wait paralysed until they are eradicated.

    But irrational and ongoing shifting of goalposts means there’s no logical end to this debilitating state of fear.

    We will not be rid of this virus; that’s not how viruses work. The pingdemic is just the start of us witnessing how our attempts to manage risk will work against us. And a very good example of that old adage: the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

    1. If you ignore the more sinister aspects of the thing it has been the most complete fiasco that one could ever conceive of! Five year olds could have managed it better!

    2. If you ignore the more sinister aspects of the thing it has been the most complete fiasco that one could ever conceive of! Five year olds could have managed it better!

    3. I have had to go the Royal Surrey the main hospital for the county, on a daily basis for treatment. There have been no new admissions to the hospital for Covid for at least 10 days. In other words the “pandemic” is over and people are being conned by the pingdemic.

      1. And I’ll bet that the place is almost empty – no REAL patients with cancer, heart problems, pneumonia etc etc

        1. To be fair, the Royal Surrey seems to be going full steam in that regard. But I can only speak for the Oncology Dept. I don’t go anywhere else. But interesting thing. They are really disgusted with G P.s and aren’t secretive about it with patients. I detect splits, factions, as it were in the NHS. I have had to depend on the hospital for prescriptions etc because my local surgery is so useless.

          1. The Oncology department and Acute medical at my local hospital were still seeing patients.

            They too were also not impressed with the attitude of GP’s.

          2. So the plan will be to privatise the gp service which will keep down hospital admissions and reduce the pressure on the nhs.

          3. Yo, JR. We may be neighbours. I’ve been a bit negative about the Royal Surrey since my elderly, now departed old Mum ended up there whilst visiting me in Hindhead. I’m pretty sure she had a TIA, but it was apparently ‘just a virus’. Our former Rector went there in excruciating abdominal pain. After several hours, he was discharged. The following day he was taken by ambulance to Frimley Park, where they diagnosed a perforated intestine.

            I’ve kept Frimley Park busy over the years, but – having moved from Seale to Normandy – I’m beginning to rediscover the RSCH, although I still regularly attend Frimley Eye Clinic.

            I’m now with the Fairlands Practice, and – while they seem reluctant to see patients on a face to face basis, I have actually seen a GP F2F, regarding an issue with my right hand (more precisely the Ulnar Nerve). As it happens, I know her parents, so I’ll prolly (© B Thomas) never see her again. Phone appointment due on Thursday, having had nerve conduction studies at the RSCH, and ultrasound at Cranleigh.

            Insignificant, compared to Oncology, but if I can’t get the hand working again, my days as a church organist are prolly numbered… :-((

            I had a couple of phone calls from Frimley last year, dissuading me from attending the Eye Clinic. My response was that they’d better order me a guide dog. Upon attendance, the car park resembled Sainsbury’s on Easter Sunday. Overwhelmed, it wasn’t.

    4. I have just returned from Bath, shopping for Mrs VVOF’s birthday present. Whilst there we called into M&S for coffee. The store has 3 floors and was pretty busy and for all the time we were in there and wandering around the 3 floors I only saw 4 other people not wearing a face nappy, a grand total including myself and Mrs VVOF of 6 out of at least 250 plus!
      You are right Minty, people are in a state of fear, caused by the buffoon, his controllers SAGE and the MSM. I felt like going up to each and every one of them asking if they were wearing a mask over their backsides as well because it is reported Covid is spread through flatulence.
      Sheep, intimidated cowering sheep, they deserved to be incarcerated in their homes for all time.

    5. Thank you, Anne, a concise and precise evaluation of the nonsense this government uses as a coercion to comply.

      Dr Pemberton highlights, “…not to try to get to zero infections, or even deaths, as this will never happen.”

      Similarly Net Zero Carbon isn’t going to happen – especially now that the majority are increasing their fart rate, induced by ever-growing fear.

    6. Thank you, Anne, a concise and precise evaluation of the nonsense this government uses as a coercion to comply.

      Dr Pemberton highlights, “…not to try to get to zero infections, or even deaths, as this will never happen.”

      Similarly Net Zero Carbon isn’t going to happen – especially now that the majority are increasing their fart rate, induced by ever-growing fear.

    8. The DM are very naughty, they have been trying to whip up the next round of empty shelves for several weeks now.

    9. Compare and contrast: 1940 (with very real threat of invasion and bombing) – “keep calm and carry on”; 2020 (with a virus that has a 99% survival rate) – “stay at home, don’t touch anything, disinfect any groceries and prepare to meet thy doom”.

  56. 335845+ up ticks,
    Breathing exercises / lung workout listen to vine he is certainly a caution, the garage is a test bed for new obscenities with do not enter
    notice on the door, anti vine sh!te in rehearsals.

    I do believe vine plus the bBc lady ( very open to question) reporter and the son of yesterdays rally Lady speaker, ( shop his granny twat) would gladly run a campaign for the “victims” claimed via the Nuremberg courts & duly hanged. the 6 million would be seen as collateral damage.

    His parting shot was “so you see me as a Guinea pig” thereby saying the jab is in the experimental stage.

    What a poster boy for NON payment of the bbc fee.

      1. I see Whine as many things, but Guinea pig certainly isn’t one of them!

      2. I see Whine as many things, but Guinea pig certainly isn’t one of them!

      3. 335845+ up ticks.
        Afternoon B3,
        An up & coming young snide in a nest of super snide’s.

      4. 335845+ up ticks.
        Afternoon B3,
        An up & coming young snide in a nest of super snide’s.

  59. Has anyone noticed how it always seems to flood under bridges when we get a heavy rainstorm, which is amazing really as no rain can fall under them.

  60. Has anyone noticed how it always seems to flood under bridges when we get a heavy rainstorm, which is amazing really as no rain can fall under them.

  62. 335845+ up ticks,
    Do any of the lab/lib/con close shop, mass uncontrolled immigration
    paedophile umbrella coalition members / voters realise, that shortly, now they are judged to be pliable enough that compulsory boarding must be on the cards.

    Nearly 600 Illegal Boat Migrant Crossings of the English Channel Recorded Over the Weekend.

    1. Read somewhere that once the magic asylum word is said it costs approx £5k to process each one – meaning those 600 have cost£3m straight away – never mind the housing,food, NHS etc etc. every day afterwards. and more arrive every week. Then the families will come. The country is being destroyed – and all those who died keeping it free, would now wonder why they did.
      Your grandchildren have no hope. There will not be a place safe enough to go to. The govt must be getting a massive payoff to do this. I hope they all suffer in eternal hell.

      1. 335845+ up ticks,
        Afternoon W,
        All who suffer in eternal hell will be the herd, courtesy of the family tree lab/lib/con current supporter / voters, the decent peoples are being prepped up for it.

        Future children via the left legacy will make rotherham & rochdale look like a kindergarden.

    1. Was she following some Australian dietician’s suggestion? She looks daft enough to do so.

    1. Onlookers were appalled were they? If i know anything about ‘onlookers’ they would have enjoyed the free street theatre and laughed.

        1. There’ll be an App for that in due course at present it’s bottom on the list….

        2. There’ll be an App for that in due course at present it’s bottom on the list….

    8. Keep your phone in your back pocket, then it can detect COVID from your farts.

    9. Keep your phone in your back pocket, then it can detect COVID from your farts.

  72. Thats another bay of barn roof built. Went easier this time, as we’d learnt from the last time. Still hard sweaty work, though.
    Proper job!
    Time for beer!

        1. A very good film. I like to think the lady who nursed him after he was shot would leave the Amish group and go with her son to live with the detective in the city. I watched it last week for the umpteenth time.

      2. I’m rather enjoying it. Physical labour, and you cam see what you’ve done, as opposed to the day job of planning, analysing, calculating and reporting, all on the PC.

        1. So what you are saying (© Cathy Newman) is that you can cam-cord it to view later.

  73. “Unleashing ‘the Beast’: how Adam Peaty’s second Olympic gold medal cements his position as the most dominant sportsperson in Great Britain today – and perhaps ever.”

    Jeremy Wilson, Daily Telegraph, Chief Sports Writer.

    “Most dominant sportsperson in Great Britain today – and perhaps ever“?

    I take it, from that, Jezza, that despite you being the DT’s ‘Chief Sports Writer’, you’ve never heard of Charles Burgess Fry? Look him up sometime.

    1. Or, to take another possible, George Digweed – a clay shooter; he has now won 26 world titles (13 Sporting, 11 Fitasc and 2 Compak), 19 European titles (15 Fitasc and 4 Compak), 4 European Compak titles, and 12 world cups!

      Or Sir Steve Redgrave – five consecutive Olympic Games gold medals from 1984 to 2000; Sir Chris Hoy, Jason Kenny and Sir Bradley Wiggins??

      1. Without denigrating their achievements, I think the point Grizzly is making is that CB Fry excelled at at least three different sports.

        1. I take your point, but my contention was that even if we look at just one sport, there are many more worthy contenders – Ben Ainslie is another who springs to mind! Not bad though for us to think of so many in a few minutes considering we aren’t the Telegaffe’s Chief Sports Writer!!

          1. Agreed.

            It makes a good debate and most people with an interest in sport will have a favourite.

            If one sticks to just one sport (assuming you consider it a sport) my nomination for the most dominant would be Joe Davis in snooker.

          2. One of my major interests was rock climbing – getting into a debate on who was the greatest is fraught with difficulties because of developing equipment, training methods, protection etc, so it’s probably best not to bother in that instance. I’m glad though that Ingemar Stenmark’s record for FIS [alpine ski] career podiums hasn’t been broken [yet] – better medical care and training nowadays! [Although better kit means faster speeds and arguably worse crashes?]

          3. The issue of equipment is an interesting one. Although not British as in the thread, I’ve always admired Rod Laver.
            I wonder how many of today’s “superstars” could have beaten Laver at his peak using the old racquets.

          4. I still remember those interminably long matches at Wimbledon between Rod Laver and Ken Rosewall.

            Wooden racquets of that era were supplanted by the Wilson T2000 stainless steel used by Jimmy Connors (I still have mine bought at Lillywhites) and our Dunlop Maxply Fort wooden racquets became infested with wood weevil and were binned last month as I was clearing the shed.

          5. They might have seemed that way at the time.

            Even without tie breaks I doubt they were even close to the yawnathons that we see now.

          6. The principal changes in recent years are the propensity of women players to grunt at serve and return and the men to shout interminably and fist pump. I think Henman started the fist pumping device and Murray the loud open mouthed and unsightly gobby display.

            The most annoying display is attached to doubles where the combatants touch fists after every point and converse to each other as if in secret by shrouding their whispering tattle with a covering hand. I suppose they think their opponents all lip read or such.

          7. I agree totally. Time for a mind meld!

            It’s all that crap that stopped me watching tennis.
            Even some of the men are grunting.
            I recall doubles players putting up one or two fingers as they bent down before the serve.
            Oi Phizzee, no need for that comment };-O

          8. The principal changes in recent years are the propensity of women players to grunt at serve and return and the men to shout interminably and fist pump. I think Henman started the fist pumping device and Murray the loud open mouthed and unsightly gobby display.

            The most annoying display is attached to doubles where the combatants touch fists after every point and converse to each other as if in secret by shrouding their whispering tattle with a covering hand. I suppose they think their opponents all lip read or such.

          9. I still remember those interminably long matches at Wimbledon between Rod Laver and Ken Rosewall.

            Wooden racquets of that era were supplanted by the Wilson T2000 stainless steel used by Jimmy Connors (I still have mine bought at Lillywhites) and our Dunlop Maxply Fort wooden racquets became infested with wood weevil and were binned last month as I was clearing the shed.

          10. The issue of equipment is an interesting one. Although not British as in the thread, I’ve always admired Rod Laver.
            I wonder how many of today’s “superstars” could have beaten Laver at his peak using the old racquets.

          11. One of my major interests was rock climbing – getting into a debate on who was the greatest is fraught with difficulties because of developing equipment, training methods, protection etc, so it’s probably best not to bother in that instance. I’m glad though that Ingemar Stenmark’s record for FIS [alpine ski] career podiums hasn’t been broken [yet] – better medical care and training nowadays! [Although better kit means faster speeds and arguably worse crashes?]

          12. Lester Piggott (all those Classic victories and jockey championships) and (Sir) AP McCoy (all those jockey championships and over 4,000 winners) …

        2. I take your point, but my contention was that even if we look at just one sport, there are many more worthy contenders – Ben Ainslie is another who springs to mind! Not bad though for us to think of so many in a few minutes considering we aren’t the Telegaffe’s Chief Sports Writer!!

      2. Without denigrating their achievements, I think the point Grizzly is making is that CB Fry excelled at at least three different sports.

      3. Charles Burgess Fry (25 April 1872 – 7 September 1956) was an English sportsman, politician, diplomat, academic, teacher, writer, editor and publisher, who is best remembered for his career as a cricketer. John Arlott described him with the words: “Charles Fry could be autocratic, angry and self-willed: he was also magnanimous, extravagant, generous, elegant, brilliant – and fun … he was probably the most variously gifted Englishman of any age.”

        C. B. Fry’s achievements on the sporting field included representing England at both cricket and football, an FA Cup Final appearance for Southampton F.C. and equalling the then-world record for the long jump. He also reputedly turned down the throne of Albania. In later life, he suffered mental health problems, but even well into his seventies he claimed he was still able to perform his party trick: leaping from a stationary position backwards onto a mantelpiece.

        Apart from his other sporting achievements, Fry was also a decent shot putter, hammer thrower and ice skater, representing Wadham in the inter-College races on Blenheim lake in the winter of 1894–95 and coming close to an unofficial Blue as a member of the Oxford team who took on Cambridge on the Fens, as well as being a proficient golfer.

      4. Charles Burgess Fry (25 April 1872 – 7 September 1956) was an English sportsman, politician, diplomat, academic, teacher, writer, editor and publisher, who is best remembered for his career as a cricketer. John Arlott described him with the words: “Charles Fry could be autocratic, angry and self-willed: he was also magnanimous, extravagant, generous, elegant, brilliant – and fun … he was probably the most variously gifted Englishman of any age.”

        C. B. Fry’s achievements on the sporting field included representing England at both cricket and football, an FA Cup Final appearance for Southampton F.C. and equalling the then-world record for the long jump. He also reputedly turned down the throne of Albania. In later life, he suffered mental health problems, but even well into his seventies he claimed he was still able to perform his party trick: leaping from a stationary position backwards onto a mantelpiece.

        Apart from his other sporting achievements, Fry was also a decent shot putter, hammer thrower and ice skater, representing Wadham in the inter-College races on Blenheim lake in the winter of 1894–95 and coming close to an unofficial Blue as a member of the Oxford team who took on Cambridge on the Fens, as well as being a proficient golfer.

    2. Or, to take another possible, George Digweed – a clay shooter; he has now won 26 world titles (13 Sporting, 11 Fitasc and 2 Compak), 19 European titles (15 Fitasc and 4 Compak), 4 European Compak titles, and 12 world cups!

      Or Sir Steve Redgrave – five consecutive Olympic Games gold medals from 1984 to 2000; Sir Chris Hoy, Jason Kenny and Sir Bradley Wiggins??

    1. With the amount coming there can’t be enough hotel rooms for them all – so what next – compulsory use of spare rooms? – or throw us out by force and move them in? – I would NOT put it past this lot.

        1. Can’t keep cramming 2 continents into an island – – and making the islanders pay for everything. All these “woke” idiots who think there is endless space, housing, cash and services will one day REALLY wake up. – and it will be a hell of a shock.

      1. In 2020, male to female ratio for United Kingdom was 97.67 males per 100 females. Male to female ratio of United Kingdom increased from 92.61 males per 100 females in 1950 to 97.67 males per 100 females in 2020 growing at an average annual rate of 0.38%.

        I really and truly don’t believe that .

        1. Men are living longer now and the immigrant ratios will greatly favour male over female.

          1. The incomers ALWAYS favour male over female – in whatever thing you care to name, Our Susan.

      1. Is she a dyke?

        ♬“I feel Priti, oh so Priti, I feel Priti and witty and GAY…”♬

          1. If I told you, you wouldn’t believe how many dykes I’ve had a finger in, Tom.

  75. Good afternoon all.
    A pal was waiting in the Doctor’s surgery last week.

    Next to be called was a Mr Joe Bloggs. “Mr Bloggs please, room 2”

    No answer.
    This time louder; “Mr Joe Bloggs, Dr Ecks, room 2”; still no answer.

    After a bit more calling and zero response, someone quietly said “I think he stepped out for a fag.”
    Those who dared to laugh were given a very hard stare by the nurse/receptionist.

    1. After a recent day in hospital I was told to expect a call from them and possibly my doc. I got two letters instead. The hosp one had an appointment I couldn’t make, so cancelled it. The one from the doc asked me to call the surgery and make a telephone appointment – which would be at least two weeks down the line – so – no masks but STILL no proper appointments?? nice.
      Yet those at Dover have ambulances and crews waiting for them !!!!!

      1. The reason for Dover is that those welcoming them are fully aware of just what nasties they might be bringing in with them.

          1. If there is a choice, I’m afraid I would rather have them coming in disease free than bringing in Gawd kno’s wart (sic) drug resistant versions of TB, HIV, Covid, or 101 lurgies from Africa and Asia.

          2. I’d rather that it didn’t have to come to that kind of a choice. It’s like saying do you want to die from X or from Y?

          4. I’d rather that it didn’t have to come to that kind of a choice. It’s like saying do you want to die from X or from Y?

      2. The reason for Dover is that those welcoming them are fully aware of just what nasties they might be bringing in with them.

      1. Humanity now comes in amounts. Hence they developed a virus that kills fat people first. Gets rid of the greatest amount. Or something lik that.

      2. Humanity now comes in amounts. Hence they developed a virus that kills fat people first. Gets rid of the greatest amount. Or something lik that.

    3. True – – the new lies are getting ridiculous. Now it is the Gamma variant.
      Experimental genocide.

    4. True – – the new lies are getting ridiculous. Now it is the Gamma variant.
      Experimental genocide.

  77. This can’t possibly be right can it?


    Record Coral Cover Of Great Barrier Reef Shames Climate Alarmists, Media

    From CLIMATECHANGEDISPATCH

    WRITTEN BY PETER RIDD ON JUL 23, 2021

    The annual data on coral cover for the Great Barrier Reef, produced by the Australian Institute of Marine Science, was released on Monday showing the amount of coral on the reef is at record high levels.

    Record high, despite all the doom stories by our reef science and management institutions.

    Like all other data on the reef, this shows it is in robust health. For example, coral growth rates have, if anything, increased over the past 100 years, and measurements of farm pesticides reaching the reef show levels so low that they cannot be detected with the most ultra-sensitive equipment.

    This data is good news. It could hardly be better. But somehow, our science organizations have convinced the world that the reef is on its last legs. How has this happened?

    This data series, which started in 1985, is taken from the Australian Institute of Marine Science’s yearly long-term monitoring of the Reef. Source: Peter Ridd
    One reason is that occasionally colossal amounts of coral are killed, mostly by cyclones, but also by the crown of thorns starfish and bleaching.

    So the media, with its predilection for bad news, can be fed a regular diet of doom. Our scientists are always happy to oblige.

    The quiet recovery is generally downplayed or ignored.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/da135c96b8b91614183dc3168b004ad4b5022dcd8f4154b61e406f0f09859fda.png

  78. This can’t possibly be right can it?


    Record Coral Cover Of Great Barrier Reef Shames Climate Alarmists, Media

    From CLIMATECHANGEDISPATCH

    WRITTEN BY PETER RIDD ON JUL 23, 2021

    The annual data on coral cover for the Great Barrier Reef, produced by the Australian Institute of Marine Science, was released on Monday showing the amount of coral on the reef is at record high levels.

    Record high, despite all the doom stories by our reef science and management institutions.

    Like all other data on the reef, this shows it is in robust health. For example, coral growth rates have, if anything, increased over the past 100 years, and measurements of farm pesticides reaching the reef show levels so low that they cannot be detected with the most ultra-sensitive equipment.

    This data is good news. It could hardly be better. But somehow, our science organizations have convinced the world that the reef is on its last legs. How has this happened?

    This data series, which started in 1985, is taken from the Australian Institute of Marine Science’s yearly long-term monitoring of the Reef. Source: Peter Ridd
    One reason is that occasionally colossal amounts of coral are killed, mostly by cyclones, but also by the crown of thorns starfish and bleaching.

    So the media, with its predilection for bad news, can be fed a regular diet of doom. Our scientists are always happy to oblige.

    The quiet recovery is generally downplayed or ignored.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/da135c96b8b91614183dc3168b004ad4b5022dcd8f4154b61e406f0f09859fda.png

    5. Hi Plum – There’s a bit of a kerfuffle about redundant racehorses being slaughtered for human consumption. The slaughterhouse is in the south as I understand it and a suspicion that conditions are not as they should be. I expect the horse meat will be destined for France.

      3. Swindon. They travelled a lame horse from Ireland (to make a few bob from the meat market), which is illegal anyway. If the Bbc didn’t have its own agenda, it would be following that up. Ne’er a word about the ROR (Retraining of Racehorses) or the attempts to ensure that horses don’t drop off the radar after training. Ours get rehomed suitably if they can be, or live out their lives peacefully at a rehab facility.

      4. Nothing wrong with horse-meat, it cooks well and can be both tender and tasty – only tried it in France, where I bought it in a Super U supermarket, they also had (at different times) kangaroo and ostrich, both of which require careful cooking but are also delicious if done right.

    1. I’m already bored with it, and I haven’t had to endure a second of the BBC telling me how much I love some ethnic minority athletes that I’ve never heard of.

  82. That’s me for the day. An afternoon harvesting beans variés – Cobra, Contender and another one (not so good as Contender). Planting out Swiss Chard and more salad plants. Improving the trombetti frame. Then watering – God, water is heavy…. Shifted 1,500 litres…. Epsom Salts in the bath tonight…

    I hope I am spared to join you another day. Have a jolly evening.

    A demain.

    1. If you like climbing beans, I recommend one called Phenomene, it is as prolific, if not more so than Contender. And being that bit higher off the ground is less susceptible to blackfly. I can’t grow runner beans and it makes a very acceptable alternative.

      1. Climbing beans is safer than climbing ladders as far as Bill is concerned.

          2. That is unparliamentary language and not acceptable on this forum. I order you to leave the house for the rest of the day’s session.

  83. Got back from Rugeley after looking round the town and then having a meandering drive to Ashbourne where I did a bit of shopping in the Co-op & Sainbury’s.
    Sad to say the bed-wetters were greatly in the majority.

    2. I wonder if they were wearing an extra mask down their pants after yesterdays news about flatulence,

    3. I wonder if they were wearing an extra mask down their pants after yesterdays news about flatulence,

    4. Had lunch with my old schoolfriends today. Both wore masks 😷on the bus and walking into the restaurant.
      Then we hit the shops- masked (except me).Most people on the bus and in the shops were masked. This will never end until people end it.

      1. I know I have gone – but I meant to post this earlier.

        In Lunnon yesterday, and on the trains to and from – about half the whitish people were masked. Virtually NONE of the many bames.
        In the resto all the staff were mouthless – but none of the customers. At the RA, of our party, no one was masked except my grand-daughter who, at 14, believes what a govt minister tells her.

        The only person who moved away from the MR and me on the train (we were unmasked) was a very black bame wearing one of those very complicated masks with vents etc.

        I thought that was truly ironic! It also gave us four seats for the two of us!!

        I am really gone now – supper calls.

  84. The Daily Human Stupidity.

    “We will eventually run out of natural resources but we have an unlimited supply of stupidity. We need to invent power grids that are fuelled by bullshit.”

    Dean Cavanagh.

  85. The Daily Human Stupidity.

    “We will eventually run out of natural resources but we have an unlimited supply of stupidity. We need to invent power grids that are fuelled by bullshit.”

    Dean Cavanagh.

  86. Fusion cuisine for supper: Moose Tikka Masala.
    Be a novelty…
    Edit: And now it’s hooshing down. At last!

    1. I’ve only sampled moose once: at the top of a mountain in Norrland at Christmas. It had been frozen too long before being cooked and had a ‘spoilt’, quite mushy texture. I’ll have to sample some much fresher.

    2. I’ve only sampled moose once: at the top of a mountain in Norrland at Christmas. It had been frozen too long before being cooked and had a ‘spoilt’, quite mushy texture. I’ll have to sample some much fresher.

  87. Fusion cuisine for supper: Moose Tikka Masala.
    Be a novelty…
    Edit: And now it’s hooshing down. At last!

    1. THAT can’t be a YouGov survey,

      It would read:
      Have the Tories failed on controlling our borders?

      Yes, too few are getting through safely.
      No, too few are getting through safely.
      Don’t know, but too few are getting through safely.

    2. THAT can’t be a YouGov survey,

      It would read:
      Have the Tories failed on controlling our borders?

      Yes, too few are getting through safely.
      No, too few are getting through safely.
      Don’t know, but too few are getting through safely.

    1. “…the government has lost control of the virus…”

      Like the human species has lost control of the climate, the sun, the moon and the tides.

        1. 335645+ up ticks,
          Evening P,
          Openly, working to their own agenda
          at least three decades ago, sad to say NEVER lacking in support right through.

  90. BTL Comment from The Slog:
    “cudrefin on July 26, 2021 at 4:24 pm
    According to today’s Telegraph :
    “University students will have to be fully vaccinated if they want to attend lectures in person under plans reportedly being considered by Boris Johnson. The Prime Minister is said to be ‘raging’ at the lack of vaccine uptake from younger people and wants to squeeze students into getting inoculated, according to The Times.”. So that would be coercion then which I thought was illegal.
    I consider the likes of Boris Johnson to be pure evil. My daughter has just turned 18 and is hoping to attend university this September. Mrs C and I have pleaded with her to read up on the ‘vaccines’ before making a decision on whether to climb onboard the vaccination merry-go-round or not. We can see how worried she is about this decision with so much peer pressure from the media and friends to take the jab, but a realisation that her parents feel that there is something so wrong about what’s going on. We’ve told her we will always support her with whatever decision she takes but when creatures like Johnson threaten her future and happiness the way he is, I feel nothing but absolute vitriol towards him and the the politicians who fail to stand up to this government and the absolute insanity of what they’re pushing for.
    I can only assume that the WHO’s rewriting of the rules around herd immunity is about driving the vaccination level to a point at which the so-called ‘vaccination’ passes become viable as a mechanism for controlling the masses in the future by which time they will be re-badged as ‘citizen’ passes. To me this is probably why the 65% herd immunity level is not good enough and they really need 80-90% compliance to force the remainder to sign up to the programme.
    I suspect that the majority of people engaging in this experiment have no idea that it is probably a means to an end and not a journey back to relative freedom.”

    1. When thousands of young people decide that university isn’t worth the medical and financial risks, and go through an old fashioned training route, closely followed by useful qualifications and experience without debt their peer group will be advising their friends not to waste three years and God knows how much money.

      At that point I hope all the fringe universities go bust and take all their woke advisors down with them.

      2. Can you imagine parents proudly introducing their daughter the plumber? White collar snobbery will push against such a move.

        What a lovely thought though.

        1. 335845+ up ticks,
          Evening R,
          Then in reality they push against reality, they never learn where there’s muck there’s brass.

        2. I’m willing to bet that AI and off-shoring will decimate white collar jobs and that the colossal costs of a university education will make jobs such as plumbers and electricians, chefs and entrepreneurs something the children and their parents really will be proud of.

    2. In the old Soviet bloc, the children and grandchildren of the ‘bourgeoisie’ were not allowed to attend university or were directed to colleges that awarded lower qualifications.
      There were also internal passports to allow people to travel within their own country.
      Is any of this ringing alarm bells?

      1. Nothing will ever harm the UK as much as that done by Blair and his wrecking crew.

        1. 335845+ up ticks,
          S,
          They were / are a coalition and they have been backed ALL the way.

    4. I share your anger.
      My daughter is due to do her 18+ exams in school this coming year. I asked her casually what she would do if the jab became compulsory to sit the exams. She said if there was no way round it, she supposed she’d have to have the jab.
      I held back my utter fury.

      There must be loads of young people in this situation.
      My son is currently at a university in a Continental country, nothing has been said yet about compulsory jabs. Perhaps university in Scandi or Germany might be an option for your daughter?
      But then there is the travel in and out of Blighty to complicate matters, of course.
      There are distance learning courses from some universities, also in English, then you’d only have to travel to do the exams.

      1. bb2 – Not my daughter thankfully. It was a copied BTL Comment. I hope this thing fizzles out as predicted by Mike Yeadon and your daughter isn’t faced with compulsion.

        1. Having heard the rhetoric from Australia, the US and Israel, I am quite fearful of hysteria being whipped up against unvaccinated people. But as you say, we must keep hoping for the best – and keep the pressure up on the government as much as we can.

        2. Our grandson hopes to start university this year – awaiting A level results. I think it is absolutely diabolical that any such plan has even been considered. This government and Prime Minister in particular are the most evil there could be. I rage that MPs have not exploded with anger at the coercion that’s been and is being used. To say I hate them is not even close to my opinion of them all.

        3. Our grandson hopes to start university this year – awaiting A level results. I think it is absolutely diabolical that any such plan has even been considered. This government and Prime Minister in particular are the most evil there could be. I rage that MPs have not exploded with anger at the coercion that’s been and is being used. To say I hate them is not even close to my opinion of them all.

  91. I suspect the Government is anxious to ensure all adults are vaccinated so there cannot be a comparison of death rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated folk during the forthcoming winter ‘flu’ season. i.e It would be awkward if the death rates of unvaccinated were lower than the vaccinated.

    1. And that’s what I love about Nottle.

      Stating the alternative, unspeakable, reality and considering things that might be unpalatable.

      1. Re your last sentence – I believe that’s why the bar stewards couldn’t wait to abolish grammar schools…..

      2. Re your last sentence – I believe that’s why the bar stewards couldn’t wait to abolish grammar schools…..

      3. Strange how we ‘conspiracy theorists’ turn out to be correct or at least closer to the truth.

        I reckon a lot of folk rely on MSM such as the hateful BBC and its offshoots for information and have neither the wit nor energy to seek opinions elsewhere or do a smidgen of their own research. This is a depressingly obvious fact of life in the UK.

        I expect Germans to toe the bureaucratic line and go for the jabs. I never thought that we in the UK, Australian cousins and New Zealanders would ever fall for this Covid shit.

        2. This is a direct consequence of the west’s lazy blaming of Germans for the Nazis. In Britain, we’ve allowed a myth to spring up that somehow there is something about the Germans that made them more attracted to authoritarian one-party government which of course could never happen in Blighty.
          That probably was true in the 1930s because we had the old Establishment of the aristocracy to stabilise us. Blair the destroyer ensured that that stablility was gone.
          People who have told me I’m a fascist all my life are now eagerly ushering in the kind of control that Hitler would have given his right arm for!

          Regarding your point about the Germans, they may be slower than other countries to fall for the crapola, as even the thickest German might start drawing comparisons with the 1930s (though it is illegal to do so in Germany).

          1. I agree that otherwise intelligent people can succumb to state propaganda. The difference between the Germans in the thirties and forties and our own idiot masses is that our current lot have no excuse for their ignorance.

            Half of us dispute the Covid ‘science’ and recognise a con because we are intelligent, questioning and have access to alternative media and opinion via the internet. We are not yet under threat of imprisonment or transportation to a death camp for showing dissent.

          3. Folk calling you a fascist are invariably such themselves. The problem the Left have is they think they’re righteous and justified in their attitudes. They think they are ‘good’ and ‘decent’ where really they’re oppressive thugs.

            They do not realise they are the great evil of authoritarianism and oppression fought against for so long, that they exist precisely because of our tolerant, liberal society. A society they want to tear down in their own nasty, vicious image.

      4. Strange how we ‘conspiracy theorists’ turn out to be correct or at least closer to the truth.

        I reckon a lot of folk rely on MSM such as the hateful BBC and its offshoots for information and have neither the wit nor energy to seek opinions elsewhere or do a smidgen of their own research. This is a depressingly obvious fact of life in the UK.

        I expect Germans to toe the bureaucratic line and go for the jabs. I never thought that we in the UK, Australian cousins and New Zealanders would ever fall for this Covid shit.

    4. I suspect that whatever the truth, we will be told that more evil! unclean! unvaccinated people have died. However, it might not be so easy to manipulate the numbers coming from other countries.

    1. Why, WHY, WHY!! do people start a paragraph with ‘so’? What’s wrong with them?!

      On the latter, yes, without question. The idea of a beat bobby is a radical idea.

      Of course, the simpler solution is when black youths are found with a knife, don’t process them through the system, slap a metal collar around their neck and a metal chain to the collar and have them walk on their hands and knees. If they behave like animals, they should be treated like them.

      That said, I have and would never collar a dog, nor yank on the chain. It’d be inhumane – but these black gang scum are NOT human.

  94. Evening, all. Never mind commercial standards, migrant vessels should be forced to turn back and dump their cargo wherever it came from. I had another phone call today from someone else who’s assessing MOH. For the next two weeks, possibly in a local care home, the stay is free while they assess. At least that means I’ve got a fortnight’s breathing space.

    1. Still keeping my fingers crossed for a good result for the both of you, Conners.

      1. Thank you. I hadn’t realised quite what a strain I was under until the pressure was released 🙁 If only we can get the finances sorted, I hope that I shan’t have to go back to how it was because I’m definitely not looking forward to it. Having had a break and a taste of “normal” life, I’ll find it very hard to resume all the anxiety and constant checking.

          3. And vice versa. We sampled a new cafe today and Oscar got lots of admiring comments.

    3. Good news, Conners – and an extended opportunity to ride the Connemara, perhaps?

      1. The respite (one week so far) has already done me a lot of good; I’m sleeping better for one thing.

          1. He’s fine, thank you. At the moment he’s asleep, half in and half out of his bed.

    5. The break will do you good, Con. Let’s hope this is a realistic chance at a solution that works for you and OH.

    1. But what about death rates? And are the the dying being reincarnated as little spiky Covid-19 balls?

  96. Any government’s handling of the COVID crisis can be criticised for getting it all wrong.
    In the early stages of the pandemic, South Korea was considered to be ahead of the game.
    But now, with low vaccination uptake, it is in its fourth wave of an emerging delta virus despite using the same control methods as the UK.

    June Park, Public Health and Data Expert, talks to DW News about how the interpretation/misinterpretaion of data is really governed by political ambitions.

    Some comments are made in this piece about the effectiveness of UK’s approach to dealing with the pandemic.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b9a110ce00bb64dad5eb36867dca2a027a174cb03995141b6766e1eb8735d874.jpg

    https://youtu.be/IvifNvA1T5o

    Could vaccinating the elderly first have been the wrong strategy?

    1. The best stratagem will have been to use established drugs such as Hydrochloriquine and Ivermectin plus others once freely available along with Vitamin D and Zinc.

      Instead the government(s) have pushed untested ‘vaccines’ on literally everyone, so far with dire and damaging consequences around the globe.

      The faux ‘vaccines’ are now proven less than useful and have likely, via mass inoculation, caused hundreds of thousands of adverse reactions and leakage mutations of the virus to reinfect the vaccinated and (as a bonus) infect the unvaccinated.

      This sequence of events is pure evil in it’s designed intent, a mass culling of otherwise healthy populations and the enforcement by mandate of Vaccine ID Identity Passports.

      Whether this potential genocide was planned and funded by Gates and Soros in cahoots with the UN and WHO is open to serious question. Either way it is a Plandemic, manufactured to control and otherwise cause harm to vast swathes of the global population.

      The connivance and collusion of our government and others in this repulsive plan marks them all as War Criminals and they will be brought to account and meted justice.

      1. My question really was – what measure of saving a population should a government use to deternine the success of a strategy in dealing with a potentially fatal pathogen?

  97. Off topic
    I’ve been watching the Olympic triathlon and come to the conclusion that the three events are the wrong way around. It’s too easy for the field to peloton the cycling to catch the best swimmers and then for a run as a group.

    The result is that the best runners have an advantage.

    The order should be cycling, running and then swimming.

    1. The good swimmers cannot really get enough lead to make it worthwhile pushing it too hard,

    2. The good swimmers cannot really get enough lead to make it worthwhile pushing it too hard,

    1. The article is well worth reading, even though it is essentially biased towards America.

    2. Excellent! I particularly liked:
      “The sociopath the Biden administration has for a press secretary says so many insane things in her press briefings, you half expect someone to throw a net over her.”

    1. Sadly, this is what the current population need to have even a clue about the causes of weather.

      1. The irony is that the weather pages often include brief explanatory videos that don’t patronise the viewer. That’s the place for it, not in the forecast.

    1. If housed in shipping containers, then why not put them back onto shipping cargo vessels and send them back to those other countries they came from.

      We have a surplus of foreign scum in our country already and want no more.

  106. Junior writes a letter about what he wants to be when he grows up.

    ‘Not like Mummy and Daddy’ – why? Because staying up late is no fun. He wanted to see what we did when he went to bed, so we let him. I emptied the washer, she got breakfast organised. While the washing machine finished, I put bath mats down. Fed the dog, warqueen goes outside to check on the pony. Got a new bar of soap and shampoo out. Folded the towels to dry and put new ones in. Got dinner into slow cooker. Checked Mongo’s water. Swept and hoovered the kitchen. Refilled the water bottles. Put the polish away (I’d dusted).

    Apparently he thought we had some sort of Bachanalian party.

    Oh, and forgot – put the devices on charge. It’s funny. As a kid you want to stay up late. As an adult, I’d love to go to bed at 8.

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