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Good Morning Folks,
Cloudy & breezy start here.
mng bob, golf later?
Morning AW, rest day today
Four mega-trends that condemn the West to irreversible decline. 26 August 2021.
All of this takes us to the fourth mega-trend driving the West’s decline: we are turning our backs on the values that made us great. Support for capitalism is dwindling at the very time when every other society has embraced it, and many would rather see mob rule than the rule of law. In the US, the young are less likely to support democratic values than the old. There is growing scepticism about reason and the pursuit of truth. Universities are going back to their obscurantist roots, putting identity politics before knowledge. Many believe meritocracy has gone too far. We are even seeing a resurgence of neo-Lysenkoism, whereby politics trumps science.
Morning everyone. It’s five actually. The importation of vast numbers of those who have no links to the West or its traditions or beliefs is the fifth and arguably the greatest. Even if they are not actively hostile, their presence alone ensures that these values are modified and eventually erased and a cultural if not actual barbarism arises. Being newcomers they feel no obligations to the State or its Institutions. We see this in the separation of the Elites from the People, while the Institutions corrupt and perverted, rot around us!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/08/25/four-mega-trends-condemn-west-irreversible-decline/
And the Telegraph has done its bit to promote these mega-trends!
Sky News reporting that the Kabul evacuation efforts are being diverted by bids to rescue animals being cared for by an ex-marine.
Sly news as usual post being fed the propaganda from 3 days ago [when info allegedly “broke”], try their own version.
That’s probably due to a statement made in parliament by the minister of defence. The reality is that there is probably some minor distraction but one that is insignificant compared to that caused by the tens of thousands of those ineligible for evacuation.
Cynical me says that at least the rescue dogs won’t turn out to be Talibans in disguise.
That’s Pen of Nowzad dogs. He refuses to leave his animals and his staff.
My theory for why doctors are keeping a low profile still holds for me, they don’t want any connection with the vaxx just in case they get sued when or if it all goes wrong.
I have an alternative theory. I think GPs have had a good pandemic and don’t want to give up their gains. I have similar low opinion of hospital consultants who have contributed nothing to the pandemic response.
Especially when you compare them to shop assistants, bus drivers, and other lowly people who reliably came to work, despite the threat from very many strangers walking past their face and breathing God-knows what at them. The real heroes, and paid 3/4 of bugger-all per hour – no comfy home office and guaranteed income for them.
The Queen may have given the George Cross to the wrong people.
Indeed.
GC for doing your job? Or, was it for posting dance videos?
Here, hear.
‘Morning, Oberst.
There, their, Hugh.
:-))
Well done Elsie, glad someone is awake!
Since his emergency visit to A&E at New Year, OH has had innumerable visits to GP surgery and hospital consultants and we have no complaints about his treatment.
Morning, Bob3.
I am partly in agreement with your theory.
I also have a theory of my own: it concerns those who have blithely jabbed their fellow human beings with something unknown at the behest of ignorant politicians. How will these career health practitioners, and anyone else who has jabbed their fellows, live with themselves if/when the death toll rises. I theorise that mental problems and suicide within the responsible jabbing cohort will increase if/when it all goes tits up.
Not if they are climate change activists
mng to the usual early birds. Islington Wine Cellar’s Weds homework / homewoke issued:
SIR – My normally fit wife was unwell last week. On Friday, after negative Covid PCR tests, I tried to contact the GP, but it was during the hour-long lunch break, when the phone goes to an answering service.
After two-thirty, I got through and spoke to a receptionist. I ran through the symptoms and was told it was not an emergency, so I should speak to a pharmacist and ring again on Monday if my wife was no better.
Later in the day, with her condition worsening, I contacted NHS 111. The first time, after 30 minutes, I was cut off. The second time, after 29 minutes, I spoke to someone and was asked to take her to A&E immediately. Within an hour she had been admitted and, after emergency treatment, she was taken to the high-dependency unit with a chest infection and pneumonia.
The treatment she received was outstanding, and she is recovering. But had I waited until Monday, or even the following day, the outcome could have been disastrous. The NHS is great in parts, but these parts no longer seem to be joined together, especially when it comes to the primary role that GPs are supposed to perform.
Andrew Robinson
Sheffield, South Yorkshire
SIR – I read Allison Pearson’s column with despair and anger (Features, August 25). To suggest that GPs have seen their work-life balance improve during
the pandemic, and to attempt to justify the abuse directed at them, serve no good purpose.
Since March 2020, there have been nearly 370 million appointments in England – 200 million of which were in-person – while GPs and their teams have moved heaven and earth to lead the Covid vaccination campaign. Meanwhile, the number of patients per practice is 22 per cent higher than it was six years ago, leading GPs to report working 11-hour days on average.
The article also talks of “unnecessary” Covid measures. There is nothing unnecessary about practical steps such as physical distancing, mask wearing and hand hygiene, which keep patients and staff safe. Indeed, a recent survey of the public by the British Medical Association found that a majority support these steps.
We know that remote appointments are not perfect, and GPs have their own frustrations with current processes. But the same BMA survey found that most people recognise that problems with access were the fault of the Government, commissioners and NHS management. To keep blaming GPs and their colleagues is completely unfair and ignores the shortage of staff, lack of premises space and under-resourcing.
Many of the family doctors I represent are at the end of their tether, and such constant undermining will push them further towards the door, leaving us with even fewer GPs and making it even harder for patients to get the treatment they need.
Dr Richard Vautrey
GP committee chair, BMA
Leeds, West Yorkshire
SIR – Brian Whittingham (Letters, August 24) is wrong to suggest that in-person appointments are often a “waste” of GPs’ time. A good GP serves patients holistically, caring for their physical and mental well-being.
Telephone triage is not new – our practice has used it judiciously for 45 years. However, the face-to-face consultation is much better for teasing out and discussing health issues. A “waste of time” for the GP may alleviate a lot of anxiety in a patient – or reveal a more serious complaint.
Dr Philippe Ribet
Barnet, Hertfordshire
SIR – It is not appropriate to compare vets and GP practices (Letters, August 25). Vets are private businesses that require contact with the animals to generate income.
GPs’ main income is from patient lists, and is paid whether they see patients or not. Change this to “item of service per patient contact” and you will see a big difference – though your appointment is likely to be short.
Dr Robert Mitchell
Poulton-le-Fylde, Lancashire
Failure in Afghanistan
SIR – Tony Blair’s suggestion that America and Britain should stay in Afghanistan (report, August 23) is debatable.
What is not, however, is that President Joe Biden is responsible for a withdrawal of shambolic and indecent haste, ignoring his allies who went there to support America.
He has thrown a country down the drain for the sake of a PR gesture about September 11. His decision to set a target date was totally counterproductive, not only for the US fight against terrorism but also for the West as a whole, which is devoid of effective leadership.
R G James
Antwerp, Belgium
SIR – Having settled into the vacated presidential palace and government buildings, the Taliban have decided that Afghans should not go to the airport or try to leave the country. Presumably this is because they want to be at liberty to torture and murder some of them.
When the dust settles at the end of this utterly appalling failure of American – and indeed Western – political leadership, I just hope the international community remembers that this hideous regime, the Taliban, has been supported by Pakistan and China. For this alone, both countries deserve to become international pariahs.
Major Nigel Price (retd)
Wilmslow, Cheshire
The manifold benefits of wearing masks
SIR – Resistance to the wearing of masks, even in crowded indoor events, is supported not only by certain MPs but also by academics such as Dr Colin Axon (Comment, August 23). This viewpoint is promoted on the basis that scientific evidence to support mask-wearing has been somewhat equivocal, with little randomised controlled trial data.
However, one should not overlook the fact that, over the past year, influenza deaths – which are often in excess of 20,000 – have been enormously reduced. Could this excellent news be a benefit from mask-wearing, along with other social distancing measures?
It is beyond doubt that the coronavirus, like influenza, is transmitted by droplet and aerosol spread from the nasal passages. The wearing of masks is likely to reduce the magnitude of this process and should be encouraged until there is sound scientific evidence to the contrary.
Malcolm H Wheeler FRCS
Bonvilston, Glamorgan
SIR – Frances Wilmot (Letters, August 25) describes the practice of open-air schooling in the early 20th century and seems to imply that this could be emulated now.
I spent part of my teaching career working in a school that was built in 1910 for this purpose. The open-sided classrooms and “sleeping shed” have since been converted into more traditional classrooms and a school hall, but the original design is still much in evidence.
However, these schools were generally built for pupils with specific health needs and functioned very differently from schools today. When you have hundreds (maybe more than 1,000) pupils in a school that may be several storeys high, it is not so easy to transfer teaching into the open air. Pressures of the national curriculum and (quite rightly) expectations of high-quality teaching mean that it really isn’t possible to teach everything effectively outside.
Isabel Williams
Droitwich, Worcestershire
Licensed to drive
SIR – As I will be 70 in October, I received notification from the DVLA (Letters, August 25) that I was required to apply for a new driving licence.
I duly completed my application online on August 17, cut my old driving licence in half and returned it by post. I received my new licence on August 25. Am I the DVLA’s only happy customer?
Paul Cheater
Litton Cheney, Dorset
SIR – Having a 17-year-old son who has been waiting five months to receive his provisional driving licence, I believe that the DVLA must take its share of responsibility for the current supply-chain issues.
While I fully accept that a teenager being unable to drive his car is a problem for the privileged, logistics companies being unable to man their food distribution lorries – in part due to a licence-processing backlog of 1.4 million – is clearly not.
Sammy Davies
Farlington, Hampshire
Heat from the Thames
SIR – When the Royal Festival Hall was opened in 1951 as part of the Festival of Britain, it was heated and cooled by a heat pump (Letters, August 25) extracting heat from the River Thames.
The heat pump compressor was powered by two Spitfire engines – the same ones that had performed so valiantly in aircraft a decade before.
Dr David Spooner
Great Kingshill, Buckinghamshire
Chalk streams under threat from development
SIR – Your report (August 16) on the global rarity of chalk streams strikes an alarming chord.
In north Hampshire, the Loddon, a prime example, is under very serious threat from Basingstoke’s ever-increasing drive to allocate land offered for development in an area that has been already exceedingly – perhaps excessively – accommodating.
Already short of resources for sewage and water, with more than 4,000 new homes created in the past three years alone, the area needs its good-quality recreational space, and this rare chalk stream and its natural beneficiaries especially need protecting.
An accommodating attitude to development, while generally praiseworthy, needs to be limited by statute so as not to cause medium- and long-term irreversible damage.
Nick Harris
Old Basing, Hampshire
Reward for rail users
SIR – The rail industry could improve customer numbers if it treated them more fairly.
I travel from Devon to Bristol and back every week to look after my grandson. I don’t drive and, because rail fares are expensive, I travel by coach.
If I could purchase a railcard it would make all the difference, but I don’t fit into the age groups entitled to one. Why not make railcards available to anyone who wishes to travel regularly, regardless of age?
Sue King
Sidmouth, Devon
Sad day, bad day
SIR – All over the land, peoples’ houses are reverberating to the Rolling Stones. For me, at 74, the death of Charlie Watts (Obituaries, August 25) signals the end of my childhood.
Rest in peace. You were the best.
Sue Ajax-Lewis
Walberton, West Sussex
The tiger excuse
SIR – According to campaigners, Judith Kerr’s classic children’s story The Tiger Who Came to Tea promotes gender stereotypes.
In fact, the tale features a cunning woman, capable of spinning a fantastic yarn to her daughter, apparently making the girl believe that a tiger came to visit and disrupted all their plans. This ensures that Mummy can’t do any of the typical daily activities of a 1960s housewife – such as drawing her daughter’s bath, cleaning up the mess or, crucially, making Daddy’s dinner.
Campaigners claim that the father “saves the day” by suggesting dinner in a café. In fact, as any married reader will easily recognise, he has merely been a pawn in Mummy’s game all along. That Daddy believes dinner out was all his idea is only further evidence of her guile.
Ben Savery
London NW4
Dr Richard Vautrey could perhaps explain how it is that GPs cannot see patients in the flesh, but dentists, despite standing with their face right up against the main virus-emitting orifice, manage to continue to see patients in the flesh? Nothing to do with how they get paid, is it?
over the past year, influenza deaths – which are often in excess of 20,000 – have been enormously reduced. Yes, by classifying them as Covid. Easy as.
Since Christmas the ONS have been recording flu/pneumonia deaths in somewhat the same way as COVID-19 deaths i.e by mentions on death certificates. The result is that the number of such deaths has increased twenty fold. Until this month there had been 4 times as many flu/pneumonia deaths this year as COVID-19 deaths. I did some rough estimates and concluded that using the COVID-19 methodology there may have actually been 120,000 flu/pneumonia deaths last year. God knows how many flu/pneumonia deaths there would be if we started testing en masse for flu and recording deaths within 28 days of a positive result.
Before anybody gets too excited about the above figures they should realise that there were 70,000 additional deaths last year which is a 13% increase. COVID-19 does exist and is dangerous to the vulnerable groups. However it is not that significantly more dangerous than flu/pneumonia and particularly in light of the vaccination program. To me this means we have all been underestimating the dangers of flu/pneumonia and the government and scientists in their panic overestimating the dangers of COVID-19.
That’s been one of my irritation points: Why the hysteria about Covid, when nobody gave a flying one for influensa, that carried off a surprisingly large number of people each year – easily comparable to Covid deaths, if not greater?
We have had mild winters that granted the frail an extra year or two of life.
Maybe covid/flu were clearing the low hanging fruit.
Re the additional deaths last year; the extra midazolam, and the refusal of hospitals to treat care home residents for any condition may have had something to do with that.
I have studied the statistics and concluded that I can explain maybe 10,000 deaths in that way. At the same time the number of flu deaths will have been reduced by the constant lock downs. Any way that you look at it there is a problem.
To think we laugh at causes of death recorded in old parish registers.
“Rising of the lights” is as accurate as “Covid” when you’ve been run over by a No. 9 bus.
Yes, Malcolm Wheeler, and what happens to tiny water droplets in the air? They evaporate, leaving the virus floating freely round the edges of your mask as you struggle to breathe!
‘Morning, BB2, since the virus is many times smaller than the mesh on masks, it is going straight through, rendering masks ineffective, AKA bloody useless.
Dr Richard Vautrey: “…the number of patients per practice is 22 per cent higher than it was six years ago…”
And why do you think that might be?
Why is “an accommodating attitude to development … generally praiseworthy”?
mng Conway, probably a cross table discussion in the Wine Cellar making both tables feel better
Dr Spooner’s letter on peat humps for heating the Royal Festival Hall in 1951 is interesting. The heat was extracted from the Thames to heat or cool the temperature inside. 2 Spitfire engines powered the compressor unit. Not exactly carbon neutral but a lovely sound from a distance.
Good morning, all. Yet another grey day.
Morning, Bill.
How’s Gus this morning?
Good morning, Paul. Slowly, slowly improving. He wasn’t sick overnight. He picked at a dessertspoon of food. Still a worry to me.
Suicide Is Painless
A blonde hurries into the emergency room late one night with the tip of her index finger shot off.
The emergency room doctor asks her: “How did this happen?”
“Well I was trying to commit suicide” the blonde replied. “First I put the gun to my chest, and thought: I just paid $6,000 for these breast implants, I’m not shooting myself in the chest. I put the gun in my mouth, and thought: I just paid $3000 to get my teeth straightened, I’m not shooting myself in the mouth!”
“So then?”
“Then I put the gun to my ear, and I thought: This is going to make a loud noise. So I put my finger in the other ear before I pulled the trigger!”
Extinction Rebellion discover a send help note in a bottle from the RRS Sir David Attenborough:
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‘Psychological violence’: Alexei Navalny says he is forced to watch eight hours of state TV a day. 26 August 2021.
Jailed Kremlin critic Alexei Navalny has given his first interview from prison, comparing it to a Chinese labor camp and saying he is forced to watch eight hours of state television a day.
I don’t think that there are very many interviews conducted from Chinese Labour Camps and he should be thankful it’s not the BBC!
It should not be forgotten that Navalny voluntarily chose to return to Russia; something he could easily have avoided, and that when he did so, it was after the period of his parole was over; something else he could have dodged simply by turning up two days earlier. He is a prisoner by choice, a self-selected martyr. The real puzzle is who does he really work for? On the face of it he is an obvious Mi6 asset but this does not explain Russia’s tolerance of him. After the fake Novichok attack they shipped him off to Germany when they could have easily have finished him off in hospital undetected. Hardly the actions of those intent on his death. .
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/26/alexei-navalny-russia-prison-state-tv-china-labour-camp-psychological-violence
Just in case anyone needs telling about Hydrogen https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/08/19/hydrogen-dont-believe-the-hype/
The roadblocks on the way to the UK government’s 2050 Net Zero target are becoming ever more apparent. The plan to abandon domestic gas boilers, even though there is currently no viable alternative to them, is causing alarm on the Tory backbenches. The incoming ban on new petrol and diesel cars, even though electric cars are still expensive and we lack the electricity to power them, also leaves us hostages to fortune. And nobody has figured out what to do about other big emitters, like steel and cement production.
The launch of the government’s hydrogen strategy is the latest attempt to answer some of these problems. Hydrogen is a fuel that seems super-clean because burning it doesn’t emit CO2. With some tweaks, it could be used in much the same way as natural gas and oil. And it’s super-abundant. More than two thirds of the world’s surface is covered by water, so surely we can simply turn that into fuel by separating the H2 from the O?
The trouble is that hydrogen isn’t the same as natural gas and oil. You can’t just dig it up because it reacts with other elements, like oxygen, so easily. Hydrogen has to be produced – and that takes energy. You can split water molecules up, but this requires a lot of electricity. Granted, you could use spare electricity from renewables like wind and solar when it’s not needed for the National Grid. But that would not provide nearly enough energy considering how much hydrogen we would need to produce to replace existing fuels.
The simplest and cheapest way to produce hydrogen is to mix methane with very hot steam. The trouble is that this process ends up making not just hydrogen but also, er, CO2 – the very thing we are trying to avoid by moving to hydrogen in the first place. So to make this process eco-friendly, future hydrogen plants will have to use carbon capture and storage (CCS) to trap the CO2 and store it underground. But no one has managed to do CCS on a large enough scale or for a low enough price. The government is betting the whole policy on something that might never happen.
Hydrogen keeps getting floated as the Next Big Thing and then getting quietly dropped. As well as requiring a lot of cash and energy to produce, it’s an extremely volatile gas that has a bad habit of exploding if things go wrong. Every few years, a government is persuaded to stick a few hundred million quid into the idea, only to find out it’s pretty much a non-starter.
Even when you look past the problems of producing hydrogen, actually using it is expensive. Tokyo introduced a fleet of buses for the Olympics powered by hydrogen fuel cells. As a report in the Financial Times notes: ‘A fuel-cell bus from Toyota costs ¥100million ($900,000) for a six-year lease. A diesel bus costs ¥24million ($220,000) and has a useful life of 15 years.’ The buses are also more expensive to run, with fuel costs two-and-a-half times higher than that of diesel buses. Hydrogen-powered cars have the same problems. In terms of costs, even battery-powered electric vehicles look good in comparison. No wonder that most car manufacturers prefer them.
Hydrogen power is only being pursued again because of the government’s ridiculous Net Zero target. At first glance, hydrogen seems like a get-out-of-jail-free card. It’s zero-carbon (if you ignore actually making the stuff) and it has most of the convenience of fossil fuels. Everybody’s happy, right? Crikey, even Jeremy Clarkson likes hydrogen cars. But the reality is that hydrogen doesn’t really solve any of the big problems. The hydrogen economy is like one of those old castles in rural Scotland that costs the same as a one-bed flat in London. It looks amazing until you realise what a money pit it would be if you wanted to turn it into a viable home.
The government’s hydrogen strategy is another desperate attempt at making its crazy Net Zero target make sense. If we really do pursue that target, we will end up having to make do with less – with limited travel, worse heating and higher prices. Given that fast-developing economies like China and India are not going to give up on fossil fuels anytime soon, the UK’s Net Zero strategy is just a way for well-off politicians and campaigners to salve their consciences.
The hydrogen hype is another displacement activity to avoid having an honest debate about our irrational climate-change policies. It deserves to go down like the Hindenburg.
Rob Lyons is a spiked columnist.
The Autumn boosters will take care of all the net zero problems in the years to come.
Meanwhile I understand China is proceeding to build a Thorium nuclear reactor and a Canadian company is planning to build a Thorium reactor on a ship so that it can be developed offshore and avoid local prohibition laws.
Just a thought. If we really are approaching a grand solar minimum around 2050 (see chart below), perhaps someone is advising the government that with the expected population growth gas supplies will either fail to meet demand in exceptionally cold winters and be become prohibitively expenses. Hence the attraction of ground source heat pumps to heat homes.
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https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/solar-activity/solar-cycle.html
More sunspots = hotter or cooler?
More Sunspots warmer. Fewer cooler – see Maunder Minimum
In-between catching up on the ironing and taking the dog for a walk, I knocked up this perpetual motion machine.
£billion of taxpayers’ money should finance my research into improving its efficiency.
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Excellent Annie, the magic money tree seems to be in perpetual Autumn mode these days so you can expect a large cheque in the post any day now…
Wonderful! It gives me an idea. If we put mini dynamos in the water pipes, electricity could be generated whenever we turn on a tap.
338123+ up ticks,
Morning Each,
Thursday 26 August: GPs keeping patients at arm’s length allows unexamined health problems to endanger lives
This surely has to be a blanket ban from on political high, too organised
too orchestrated to be individual actions.
Seeing as conspiracy theories are now very thin on the ground and hard to come by as they morph into fact almost immediately, another form of culling could very well be operating.
Unbelievable ? would you have believed ten years ago the state this nation would be in in ten years hence.
IMO RESET, repress,replace,rebuild campaign is taking NO prisoners.
338123+ up ticks,
O2O,
You gotta vote tory ( ino) to keep out lab (ino)
You gotta vote lab ( ino) to keep out tory (ino)
That is a long running plague that has shown to have
many an odious variant.
Good morning all.
https://twitter.com/True_Belle/status/1430780372841795584
Is it down to Brexit
Climate change/global warming.
That’s okay then……
Since you can’t get in to see a GP, there’s no need to stop blood tests. Hardly anybody is taking them.
Which reminds me, I have an INR at 11:15 this morning. Done via blood test.
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A vile slander.
They’ve bottled it.
Can we expect the Minister of Health to give Vial-edict Tory speech?
Oh, chapeau!!
(I thought it was one of my better ones!)
OH had one on Tuesday.
Everything okay Ndovu? One of those routine tests I hope?
Yep. PSA monitoring.
I wish you a nice low reading, although I suspect you won’t beat mine of 0.01 for the fourth year since I was ‘seen to’.
His last one was 0.6.
Oops…apologies, not your PSA of course!
We had this announcement a couple of weeks back. We’ve had a couple of episodes where we haven’t been able to offer STI testing for a few days each time because we can’t get supplies of sample tubes, swabs etc.
Can they not be washed out and reused?
I asked that of the girl who took my blood this morning, Horace. She said no, because they are vacuum sealed and her only shortage was the red coloured one – mine are green.
Well, send them back to the factory to be valeted and re-vacuum sealed? Ah, well, dream on. Recycling, merely a slogan for politicians and chisellers.
Seven Lies About Afghanistan https://orientalreview.org/2021/08/25/seven-lies-about-afghanistan/ more details that’ll avoid BBC, Sly News
The truth actually lies in the first point with the rest being irrelevant due to that failure.
Afghanistan was a seek and destroy mission. It was largely successful in Afghanistan but ran into a brick wall when the opposition forces retreated beyond Afghanistan’s borders. The mission ultimately failed because of the west’s reluctance to pursue the enemy into Pakistan and finish the conflict.
This is a failure of the politicians and not the military who well understand what it takes to win such a war.
338123+ up ticks,
You have to give the Frenchies credit showing panache as they show another way to dine out plus their handling of getting shot of their unwanted guest’s cannot be faulted, as DOVER is proving.
https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/status/1430780258786099206
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Good Moaning.
Just heave a deep sigh at the sheer inevitability of this and concentrate on your blood pressure.
I didn’t realise they went through auditions; I thought the photo alone was enough to automatically get roles selling bargain three-piece suites or heading the police farce in English towns.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/08/25/acting-auditions-institutional-racism-report-finds/
“Acting auditions are ‘institutional racism’, report finds
Actors applying for roles in the film and television industry are often stereotyped as terrorists or recent immigrants
By Anita Singh, Arts and Entertainment Editor25 August 2021 • 6:40pm
Acting auditions are “one of the most pernicious sites of institutional racism” in the film and television industry, a report has found, with some actors frequently stereotyped as terrorists or recent immigrants.
In findings described by Sir Lenny Henry as “a stain against the entire industry”, British Asian actors said they had been asked to sound “more Asian” while black actors were told to “play it more sassy, urban and street”.
The survey of more than 1,300 actors found that 79 per cent had been asked to audition for a role that potentially stereotyped their ethnicity, and 64 per cent had been asked to read their lines in an exaggerated accent.
A younger actress said that all the roles she had auditioned for were stereotypes based on her Middle Eastern heritage, from the daughter of a terrorist to an immigrant with “scripts written with broken English”.
An older British Asian woman said: “For my age group [above 50] it has been about eight out of 10 castings wanting a stereotypical Indian mother/aunt with accent. Basically, the mentality is always, ‘Just got off the boat’, ‘Oh my God, my son is gay’.”
The survey was commissioned by the Sir Lenny Henry Centre for Media Diversity at Birmingham City University.
Sir Lenny, pictured below, said: “This report finally brings into the open what many of us talk about, and suffer, in private.
“We all work in this industry because we love it, but we must do better.”
The findings were announced at the Edinburgh TV Festival where Rakie Ayola, the actress, discussed the role of black characters in crime dramas.
Ayola recently played a senior investigating officer in BBC One thriller The Pact, and an assistant chief constable in ITV’s Grace.
She said: “We’ve reached a place where we can have women in positions of authority now, but when it comes to women of colour we’ve taken the place of the big black guy that used to sit in his shirtsleeves in 1970s detective shows and thump the desk.
“She usually has a scene in the corridor where she interacts with the main character and says, ‘How’s the case going?’
“The progress is there because the character has status, and that’s not to be underestimated. But we don’t actually care any more about her than if she were walking through with a mop and bucket.”
I mentioned this to the MR who has a brilliant solution.
All the auditions should be done behind a curtain so that the director can’t see the colour of the candidate.
She is on form this morning…!!
And to avoid the voice being a give-away the actors should also mime the part….
Hush!
Already done in orchestras, and recently a couple of times in opera. Art imitating life?
Perhaps they have concerns that there aren’t enough ethnic minorities in advertisements too?
Quite; should be 100% instead of 90%.
At this rate they will surely be claiming severe burn-out very soon and seeking large handouts of compo…
‘Morning, bb2.
Sorry Annie, as soon as I saw the name Lenny Henry I knew exactly where this was going, so the prospect of mowing the lawn is infinitely more appealing!
…and, if Whitey is cast as a Slmmer, that is wrong
Read like a Tourist Review of a weekend in Tower Hamlets or Brixton
Oh, for goodness’ sake!! Yes, when you’re starting out, you get stereotyped. I didn’t complain that my initial auditions were all for aristocratic martinets or howlingly evil witches; I happen to be naturally suited to such roles 😉 As you work with various directors and gain their trust, though, they might cast you in more interestingly nuanced roles, even pushing against stereotypes. Nature of the beast.
The hysteria is strong, though. I was once declared irredeemably racist by an American singer, and the fact that I was at the time happily in a production with my husband played by a black Brazilian and my beloved son by a Korean tenor cut absolutely no mustard with him.
Such a person as waffles this sort of nonsense is clucking dumb. There is, if anything, massive over representation of illegal immigrants, err, ethnics in the media.
Man held for ‘contaminating food with syringes’ at supermarkets in west London. 26 august 2021.
People are being urged to throw food away that was purchased from three supermarkets in west London on Wednesday evening after a man is alleged to have injected foodstuffs with an unknown substance.
The man has been arrested by Metropolitan Police on suspicion of contaminating food with a syringe at Tesco Express, Little Waitrose and Sainsbury’s Local, all on Fulham Palace Road.
Hammersmith & Fulham Council said officers were called just before 8pm after he was reported to be shouting abuse at people in the street.
There is no attempt here to explain these actions or describe the man so we are free to put our own interpretation on it!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/08/26/man-held-contaminating-food-syringes-supermarkets-west-london/
Injecting unknown substances. Now where have I come across that recently?
Nice try Corky but Covid-19 vaccines are not unknown substances.
They know what they are putting into you and they are doing it on purpose!
‘Morning, Richard, they know but do we know (and more to the point, are we happy?)
GM Raustus its a vaccine not a poison
It might be, but give me one example of another vaccine where it becomes much less effective over time, where people can both still catch and transmit the disease it is supposedly preventing, where its very presence appears to be strengthening what it is protecting us against and needs boosters every 6 months.
Hello hat. It’s not a vaccine (doesn’t give immunity) but as to a poison ……
In North America 12,000 have died from the jab. In the whole of Europe the figure is 20,000. As to injuries caused by the jab I assume the figure covers the West where statistics are available.
The figure is 1.8M and lists paralysis (Bells Palsy) heart attack. stroke, lung damage, muscular pain etc.
The heart, lungs and spinal cord do not regenerate so any damage is permanent. Very tiny blood clots can gather in the lungs and cause impairment in breathing. Permanent heart damage has been discovered in people in their twenties.
I obtained this info from various virologists and medical doctors on the internet, far too many for me to doubt it.
As far as I can ascertain there have been no deaths or serious & lasting side effects from the exclusive use of the Pfizer vaccine here in Israel
I can’t say what the situation is in the UK, US & Europe where a variety of other vaccines have been used including the Russian ‘Sputnik’ vaccine in some East European countries nor can I say that I know if the sources reporting the deaths & injuries are reliable or not as we live not in the so called age of information but in fact live in the age of misinformation .
They certainly do know but I’m quite sure that they are not telling us.
E&S, the creep in charge of the “vaccination” scheme here recently admitted that a placebo group, size not stated IIRC, exists. Ergo, on that point alone the substances administered are unknown. Many people who thought they were “protected” are not. Can you supply a complete breakdown of what is contained in your jab of choice? I’ll wait.
No placebo was used in Israel which has exclusively used the Pfizer vaccine.
E&S, the creep in charge of the “vaccination” scheme here recently admitted that a placebo group, size not stated IIRC, exists. Ergo, on that point alone the substances administered are unknown. Many people who thought they were “protected” are not. Can you supply a complete breakdown of what is contained in your jab of choice? I’ll wait.
Pfizer or AstraZeneca?
At least the halal pork sausages won’t die of Covid.
Man held for ‘contaminating food with syringes’ at supermarkets in west London. 26 august 2021.
Do noy buy food with a syringe in it
Telly Subbies strike again
An example of how lack of information leads to conjecture.
https://twitter.com/BeardedBob7282/status/1430805247723810821
338123+ up ticks,
They are now out to destroy the family unit, the threat ” wait til your father gets home” will in the great reset be replaced by ” wait til the governance
inspector comes round today”
Dt,
Lest “we” forget these politico’s were conversing with PIE back in the 70s
and bringing the age of consent down to 12 or even lower if I remember right, without parents consent no doubt.
NHS draws up plans to vaccinate 12-year-olds
Children would not need parental consent to get Covid jabs as trusts are told to prepare for rollout
338123+ up ticks,
O2O,
https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/status/1430781542012497920
Kindly tell Hamas to stop using children as human shields
338123+ up ticks,
Morning E&S,
Agreed BUT priorities tell the NHS, lab/lib/con governance cartels first.
GM Ogga1, the National Hamas Shield, is the future core voting bloc of the lab/lib/con governance cartel
338123+ up ticks,
E&S,
Sorry for the misinterp. to many hamas / mohammad
names about for my liking.
Ted Dexter has died aged 86 . A sad loss. He was a fine cricketer. Sky News
He was for a while one of the co-commentators (summarisers) on BBC tv’s Test coverage. Somewhere in the archives there will be a recording of one of the commentators calling Ted in for his stint, then a delay followed by a crash of wine glasses in the background…
Trevor Bailey, the ‘Snail’, will likely have been involved.
‘Morning, Peeps.
An interesting letter amongst all the doom and gloom, highlighting the use of a heat pump system in use 70 years ago:
SIR – When the Royal Festival Hall was opened in 1951 as part of the Festival of Britain, it was heated and cooled by a heat pump (Letters, August 25) extracting heat from the River Thames.
The heat pump compressor was powered by two Spitfire engines – the same ones that had performed so valiantly in aircraft a decade before.
Dr David Spooner
Great Kingshill, Buckinghamshire
It has provoked a number of posts in the Comments about the quantity of fuel these engines must have used, and in particular the pollution of the atmosphere that must have resulted.
This one made me smile:
Fils de Clouseau
26 Aug 2021 4:58AM
@P Lamb
It’s a good job that there were none of those campaigners around in the early 1940s.
“Can’t go up today, chaps. Excess emissions and all that. Tally-ho, and off to the pub. Where’s Nig*** ?”
Any attempt at humour in these grim times is much appreciated!
I say – wizard-prang, eh?
https://twitter.com/TheSun/status/1430792125625470985
A good job he wasn’t after a titbit
Mongoose?
A mongoose is a mammal. That was some form of reptile. Baby croc?
Iguana?
Whatever it was, it was doing her a favour. The way she was carrying on, she would only have got sand in it.
Maybe, but I still favour croc due to the length of its snout.
North London suspect is filmed in FOURTH ‘hate-attack’ in just hours as he smashes Orthodox Jewish man in the face with bottle. 26 August 2021.
This is the shocking moment an Orthodox Jewish man is struck in the face with a bottle in the fourth alleged hate-attack by the same assailant just hours apart in north London.
Footage shows the 30-year-old victim being hit on the head by a man wearing Islamic clothing on a street in Stamford Hill at around 6.40pm last Wednesday.
Time for the Jews to get out as they did in Thirties Germany. We Nottlers can all go and live with Hatman in Tel Aviv! A sort of reverse Kinder Transport!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9925201/Shocking-moment-Orthodox-Jewish-man-struck-face-FOURTH-anti-Semitic-attack-London.html
We were listening to BBC Breakfast half an hour ago..
The usual horrible pair were discussing how badly represented in school books children of colour are .
Apparently over one third of all school children are either mixed race or children of colour .
Probably a much higher proportion than that in some areas.
Morning Belle. Have you noticed the new Gay Weatherman? So camp he makes Larry Grayson look like Arnold Schwarzenegger!
Which one’s that?
https://twitter.com/OwainWynEvans/status/1429331784743931904/video/1
Hmmm, such a dear, dear boy
Oh gawd…..what a Gay Day! Shut that door! No – I haven’t seen him yet.
It has been presenting the weather on BBC Look North (the one from Leeds, not Newcastle) for a number of years.
Do we have to use this ridiculous and patronising “…… of colour”?
If people are so far up their own arses that they object to “coloured people”, then tough.
Being a sort of murky, pinky, white, I suppose I am a person ‘of colour’.
As an aspiring portrait artist, I can attest that “white” people are nothing of the blooming sort!
I’m sort of nicotine-stained colour. Not as attractive as an old pub ceiling, unfortunately.
🙁
🤣🤣 Nicotine-stained pub ceilings? Showing your age, my friend 😉
I read this donkeys’ yonks ago.
Slave to owner:
When I’m born I am black
When I’m well I am black
When I’m ill I am black
When I’m cold I am black
When I’m hot I am black
When I’m suntanned I am black
When I’m dead I am black
When you’re born you are purple
When you’re well you are pink
When you’re ill you are green
When you’re cold you are blue
When you’re hot you are red
When you’re suntanned you are brown
When you’re dead you are grey.
And you call me coloured?
I was only quoting from the article .
Good morning Bob.
Dull dark day here , hope it brightens up later.
We had the dull day yesterday- it’s brightened up now.
Morning J, crackin’ the flags again today
Full light overcast here now with the scattered blue patches filled with grey.
All BBC Programmes are grossly over-represented by twats presenting them.
“This is the shocking moment an Orthodox Jewish man is struck in the face with a bottle in the fourth alleged hate-attack…”
And the same Orthodox Jewish man is getting mightily hacked off at so many assaults.
‘Morning Minty.
Wonder what the reaction would have been if the roles had been reversed?
As, VOM, they might well be – it’s called retaliation.
The “Repeal the Coronavirus Act” petition that was highlighted here yesterday is now at 9,844 signatures – almost time for a meaningless comment by Parliament!
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/592632
9863
9911
9932
10,185
The fearful hordes will be wetting themselves (as they hide under their beds with their masks on ‘just in case’) at the very thought of ending the measures. At the entrance to Tesco car park is a massive banner (masks, sanitise, distance or similar) imploring us to keep safe.
Why must we have a petition where parliament deigns to ignore us?
Surely, in a democracy – a Demos Kratos – the state does not choose what it will ignore, it does as it is told. If we want a law repealed, that law is repealed. The state has no say in it.
If
wethe majority want a law repealed, that law is repealed.Increasingly theterm ‘majority’ must be removed to include ‘everyone’. Criminal, serial protestors, Lefties of all sorts must be excluded. They’re irrational.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/take-a-share-of-our-asylum-seekers-french-europe-minister-tells-uk/ar-AANK6mH?ocid=msedgntp
How nice of France – I suppose a share is 100%
Good morning all.
Bright overcast with blue patches of sky and 11°C on the yard thermometer.
I see the 2019 XR Protesters knew how to care for the environment:-
The spokesman who speaks for XR is a dolt. When council resources are deflected from their jobs to do something else, such as clean up your shit, Mr/Ms/thing spokesman, these resources are not elsewhere doing what they should. This is “opportunity cost”, Mr/Ms…dolt and it is real.
No additional cost? Money wasted clearing up after you, policing you means money not able to be spent on things people want. You’re making yourself more important than others. That’s offensive, selfish and shows the depth of your arrogance.
Any chance of some wealthy Nottler putting up Rod Liddle’s Spectator article The Neo-colonialist Legacy of Tony Blair ?
https://disqus.com/home/discussion/www-spectator-co-uk/the_neocolonialist_legacy_of_tony_blair/
I agree with Rod Liddle on both Blair and Hague and I am strongly of the opinion that little Willy had a very unsuccessful lobotomy.
BTW did anyone see Rod Liddle on GB News the other day when he got into a vehement slanging match with that bovine journalist Rebecca Reid?
The West and most particularly Britain, is reaping the whirlwind of the seeds sown into the world’s winds by Blair and his crew of wreckers. I cannot think of a single thing that the Blair government put in train that has not backfired horribly.
Morning Bob. Thank you!
Well said Rod. Probably the third gravest mistake is that we did not try and hang Blair and his accomplices after Iraq!
He should have been put on trial at The Hague.
Thanks Bob. I feel that Liddle was far too kind to mullet-chops!
A brief look at the history of Iraq is all that is required. It was a shambles in turmoil. Saddam Hussein rescued it.
He kept the lid on the turmoil and it all exploded when the West invaded.
While he controlled things, he did so through sheer thuggery. Having your wife and children gang raped in front of you – regardless of their ages – their bones broken with hammers then thrown into a plastic shredder is not exactly a benevolent dictator.
Should we have intervened? Probably not. Did we make things better? Probably not. Could we have, which is the better question. I think so, yes but the work involved doesn’t play well with politicians, who wanted cheap, easy popularity.
Which I believe is the biggest problem with our country today. We are led by politicians. People with an agenda for their own advancement. Not by sound, long term rational government.
However, one should not overlook the fact that, over the past year, influenza deaths – which are often in excess of 20,000 – have been
enormously reduced. Could this excellent news be a benefit frommask-wearing, along with other social distancing measures?
Malcolm H Wheeler FRCS
Bonvilston, Glamorgan
An MRD letter?
As our Medical Staff are so busy, they have found a way of making more time
On death certificates it is so much quicker to write Covid, than influenza!
In any sensible Universe clinicians would look closely at whether there is a possible relationship between Covid and flu. Does Covid fight for the same space as flu. Does it oust flu from our bodies?
It seems to be a very similar virus. And nobody shut the world down when thousands died of it every winter.
Yes. that’s my point, “This
town’sbody’s not big enough for both of us”.Maybe that’s why the seriously obese are most at risk – too much body.
Ivor Cummins very early on related Hope-Simpson’s theory that a novel virus ousts existing nasties for a while. Nothing in the statistics has disproved this.
https://twitter.com/Smileygirl2706/status/1430803885573214209
Are they all in quarantine at their own expense?
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/fury-as-french-minister-demands-new-deal-to-expel-migrants-to-uk-macron-faces-backlash/ar-AANL6di?ocid=msedgntp
Not seen this TB?
What about the 5,000 arriving each week by rubber boat, Mrs Awful?
Has Farage already gone AWOL on GB News? For the last three days they have just been re-running repeats of his Talking Pints interviews from previous weeks.
Incidentally he boasts that he has no knowledge of the questions which will be put to him – but his editors make damned sure he is not asked any really searching questions.
Yes, the repeats are becoming rather tedious. Pehaps 5 nights a week are becoming too much for him??
He mentioned last week he would be having a short holiday, returning Monday 30th August.
Mind you, Colin Brazier is proving to be a very satisfactory substitute for Andrew Neil.
GM Joseph. I used to argue with Colin Brazier on his blog on Sky News over 10 years ago when they allowed readers comments on their website for registered posters. He is a dyed in the wool Socialist who despite being a Catholic supports Multiculturalism especially the immigration of Muslims to the UK as he admires large family Muslim values and naturally is pro-Palestine ( and is rabidly anti-Israel ) . About half my posts on his blog on any given day lasted for no more than a few minutes & eventually I was banned on his blog page, but not on Tim Marshalls where I would make the same type of posts calling Hamas & the PLO as terrorist groups.
I think he must have modified his views in the last few years as he now seems quite reasonable and rational.
I agree – Colin Brazier is excellent.
Dan Wootton and Mark Dolan are all right in small doses but their endless hyperbole and some of their their terrible ‘all star’ panellists are very wearying.
I agree – Colin Brazier is excellent.
Dan Wootton and Mark Dolan are all right in small doses but their endless hyperbole and some of their their terrible ‘all star’ panellists are very wearying.
“Talking pints” – now that’s an idea for NoTTLers….
Perhaps he is on holiday on Crete.
Good morning Nottlers, sorry for disappearing for an hour after first posting on here but I was arguing with an AVC ( Anti Vaxxer Crackpot ) on the Coconut Whisperer . Its already a blazing hot 33’C here in Tel Aviv at 11:45 AM. Morning music: You’re Still the One – The Petersens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-w66cEXD0w&list=OLAK5uy_mEc6_6SYLP_k1anZDxJGmZ09e2QgCRDTU
So, Hat, those of us here, who refuse the vaccine are all AVCs?
Yes Tom but its OK as I myself am a Crackpot, just not an AVC variety one!
The “Proud To Be An Anti-Vaccine Crackpot” badges are in production as we speak…
GM blackbox2, made in PR China just like the Wuhan Plague!
I bar China! Did I bore you with the story of how many freezers I turned down in the hunt for one that was Not Made In China last week??
Got one made in Poland in the end! (yeah, yeah I know the electronics are probably from PRC…)
All parts “Made in China ” – “assembled in Poland…” Hence, under the law, it can be called “Polish”.
It’s a freezer, it can’t all be microchips. Anyway, assembled in Poland is still better than in China.
https://makeitbritish.co.uk/
For the last 11 years I have a South Korean designed LG Fridge which is actually made in India, before that I had for over 30 years a Friedman, made in Israel, sadly they went out of business due to competition from China & South Korea. It was still working fine after 30 years when I gave it to a charity as I wanted a new fangled technology fridge with digital settings.
As the temperatures go down to -15C or lower in Poland in Winter, you may find that your new freezer switches itself off during the darker months. 😉 That would be the new green technology.
i’m not an anti vaxxer – but I don’t think the covid vaxx is all it’s cracked up to be, either.
GM Jules, the vaccines aren’t perfect but they are our best line of defence against this plague.
My chance of dying, based on my age and health is less than 0.07%, so I think I’ll take my chances with the
crackplague.0.07% is better than my chance of winning the Lotto !
Well I’ve never won the Lotto either!
I’ve got zero chance of winning any lotto as I never buy a ticket!
Ten years ago my gp tried to get me on statins. “You have a ten per cent chance of dying from a stroke or heart attack at your age over the next ten years if you don’t take them” he said. “That means I have a 90 per cent chance of not dying from either” said I. “Those odds are good enough for me.” Ten years later I am still here, no heart attack nor stroke.
Mine did, too (Dr Stupid). I tried for a week and felt awful. He prescribed a different one – same result. I burned all the tablets.
When I was in NNUH a year ago, the cardiologist also prescribed them.. I took the packet back to the GP to destroy.
Still here! And the blood test last week revealed that all my “numbers” were much better than in the last ten years!!
DOWN WITH STATINS.
I too, refuse them, Bill, as they mess with my memory.
Sorry, who are you?
See what happens, even without Statins and improper proof-reading.
Edited.
My LDL and HDL vary of their own accord, nothing to do with medications (no change) or diet (no change). More pills ain’t going to help.
I tried one prescribed statin and felt awful the next day. I felt so bad I refused to try anything else. I felt like a zombie, a zombie with speech, hearing and sight problems, and as if I were fading away. It took me 48 hours to recover. That is why I am so unsure about this vaccine, it is designed to enter every cell and crosses the blood brain barrier. Once it is in you, that is it. These chemicals are dangerous, man has gone too far.
Yo pm
I used to work for a company that made Statins (and the acid for batteries in submarines)
Once a week, we used to get delivery of 2000 gallons of a dangerous, noxious chemical. those unloading it, via pipelines,
were fully Hazmatted, including force fed breathing apparatus
Every Friday 20 metric tons of statins wer airfreighted to the US.
I would never use the stuff
I can’t help wondering what was in it for him, if he got all his patients on statins?
I was given to understand that all GPs get a kick-back from Big Pharma for prescribing certain drugs, regardless for either their need or efficacy.
I think they get ‘commission’, like they do with the vax, for every successful partaker.
I’ve had mine (AZ) but I don’t think I’ll be bothering with the booster as it’s clear they don’t stop infection or transmission. I’m in good health (for which I’m grateful) so Idon’t think I’m really at risk.
I am waiting on the updated booster that specifically deals with the Delta variant, Pfizer is working on it & hopefully it will be available before years end .
Our best line of defence against this corona virus is our innate immune system.
The same one that protects us from Cancer ?
To call a person who is suspicious about the vaccine(s) a “crackpot” is unfair, Hatman
The same sort of language was used in 2016 about those people rash enough to admit that they wished the UK to leave the EUSSR.
Most of us have had all manner of vaccinations as a child but in the last decade or so a hardcore group of crackpots has emerged in the West that hold anti-vaccination beliefs with the same semi-religious fervor as the Jihadists hold the promotion of Sharia Law. This group , which has been facilitated by the hard left media with its wild claims that the MMR vaccine causes autism, has poisoned the atmosphere in general against vaccination & caused nominatively sane & rational folk to refuse the vaccination against Covid-19. The vaccination is our best defence against Covid-19 , the other measures such as masking , social distancing & some lockdowns don’t seem to be as effective in stopping the transmission of the infection but at least being vaccinated is proving to help mitigate the serious nature of the illness if a vaccinated person does catch Covid-19 & speed their recovery with or without treatment. At least this is the experience here in Israel.
Morning. Just for clarification, my stance on these jabs has been influenced not a jot by the dyed-in-the-wool anti-vaxxers. They hadn’t even crossed my radar until recently.
You believe “the vaccination is our best defence against Covid-19”; I respect your belief but do not share it. Please don’t lump us all together.
GM Ashes. being unvaccinated means you put yourself at risk, that’s fine but this plague put others at risk if an unvaccinated person infects them.
They’re at risk if a vaccinated person infects them, too. If the jabs conferred sterilising immunity my position would be different.
The vaccination lessens the risk of death & increases the chance of a swift recovery.
It does indeed appear to do so, thankfully. Makes sense for those in vulnerable categories to take it, to protect themselves.
Just a brief observation Hatters most of us nottlers if not all, had the usual vaccines as youngsters and all worked in protection. But what ever is in this stuff they now refer to as a vaccine doesn’t appear to work at all. Why are they suggesting a third ? Perhaps the scientists should have carried out a lot more research, it’s s bit like buying a flashy watch from a guy with a stall on a market.
Its my belief that the Pfizer vaccine in particular is effective & will soon be updated to deal better with the Delta variant too. About 30 years ago I bought a fake Rolex from a stall in Shepherds Bush market for a fiver, I had it for 10 years & it worked fine, kept time well, even after 10 + years it still looked brand new, changed the battery only once after about 6 years. Unfortunately I fell over running for a bus in Tel Aviv & landed on my left arm, the watch not being a genuine shock proof Rolex got its glass broken & after I had it replaced ( the glass cost more than what I’d paid for it in London ) it never worked as well again & a few years later when the battery run out I took it to a watch maker & it no longer having an air tight glass , the inner workings had become corroded, was not worth repairing & so I simply tossed it out !
As far as I recall a Rolex does not have batteries but is self winding.
It was a fake Rolex not a real one, or more correctly a Rolex look alike with a battery.
I believe they were thinking of doing it, but don’t know if they actually did.
And how was Delboy on the day 😎
It was “Ranjeet Singh” who sold me the watch & it worked well enough for a fiver .
Sorry to see you go Hatters.
Good morning, everyone.
Good morning Delboy!
GM Delboy36
‘Morning All
Remember that “Dangerous Conspiracy Theory” that the Government would seek to “vaccinate” 12/15 year old children without parental consent??
Well here we are……….
“The NHS has made
plans to vaccinate 12-year-olds from the first week after most schools
return after the summer, it was reported last night.
Hospital trusts in England have been told to prepare for a possible rollout to
healthy 12- to 15-year-old children from September 6, The Daily Telegraph said.”
https://twitter.com/ordinaryperp/status/1430656088601399304?s=21
http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cf76574454d283de9f98de8f0eb5f4cc3ebc85c3a735947c541ae587a2d720e5.jpg
What’s the difference between a conspiracy theory and a fact??
About 3 months these days………………..
Jabbing 12 year olds with an experimental treatment for an illness that won’t kill them, without their parents’ consent. How did we get to the point where nobody dares stand up to this? It’s over, and we lost if this goes through.
Abhorrent that this can happen.
These teenagers can already get contraception and abortions without either the knowledge or consent of their parents. The fact that the age of consent is 16 means ‘they’ are condoning children breaking the law. A more acceptable policy would be teaching kids the word ‘no’.
I remember that many people were actually taken in by the conspiracy theory that Biden had won the 2020 presidential election.
Since the government is quite determined to let the illegal migrants come in by rubber dinghy then perhaps they ought to arrange testing and vaccination centres on the Kent beaches and then detain them there until they have been passed as not a Covid risk?
If they are not prepared to do this then all their other pontifications about Covid measures are just sheer hypocrisy.
‘Morning Richard
Wry Laff
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9cbebc06a5c57584d6040ec96f7d0e208af82c9eb6632979076726ef24517a1d.png
Looks like (un)Trusty Trudeau. pretty enough anyway.
I preferred him looking like this:
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/96c4379bc1512e0cd46a078aa00c710517b1782db60d7444bfa699b4891af6b5.jpg
He’s smarmy git. As for his wife’s smug worshipping expression …. The son looks uncomfortable though.
Unfair to gits…{:¬))
True. At least most gits aren’t in charge of a country. Oh, wait a minute – plenty are. 🙂
Medicinal compound is clearly the only solution for Covid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x8D4T–0v4
With France now wanting us to accept theirs it would be thousands per DAY. The end is nigh – a lot “nigher” than we think. Africa would turn up.
Is France offering to repay the money Britain gave to help stop immigration?
Thanks for the “Laugh of the Day” Richard,
Afghanistan is supposedly on the “red list”. I thought the Taliban didn’t do Covid so it would be interesting to know the origins of these numbers. Perhaps the recent drop is due to the takeover?
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8e7b275242823ebb498a9a6f8702dd56470209b6de6cbc0a90528655cb79a536.png
Douglas Murray on Afghanistan troop withdrawal
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6269448516001#sp=show-clips
338123+ up ticks,
breitbart,
Delingpole: Extinction Rebellion Are So Establishment They’ll Soon Get Knighthoods
That seems to be the case, they are ALL able to manipulate such treachery under the establishment umbrella along with DOVER & paedophilia, but which is MOST able ?
How do you know this is a Guardian/BBC propaganda piece?
https://scontent-cdt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.18169-9/11828615_445019679003497_3899666633479325730_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=9267fe&_nc_ohc=D2xHiffmtNQAX_1xSk7&_nc_ht=scontent-cdt1-1.xx&oh=ebb740ea988e2f09caac7390ba5286cd&oe=614D5BA8
Green parent/tutor, red victim and blue liar. They don’t miss a trick. 😃
Nicked
Two top comments BTL under the leading article in Daily Sceptic about
government’s intention to vaccinate 12 – 15 year olds at school without
parental consent:
“I haven’t been one to jump on the Nuremburg
Trial 2 bandwagon so far. But this is different. Anyone agreeing to this
and all of those involved in the approval, supply and administering of
medical interventions on children needs to be fully aware that when this
thing is over, they WILL be held to account. “Befehl is befehl” was not
acceptable in 1946 and it won’t be acceptable this time.
There is not a single child of 12 years of age able to give informed consent on a
subject as complex as this. Most adults haven’t even been given true
informed consent.
This is utterly despicable and cannot be permitted. Parents need to stop this happening”
—————————————————————————————–
“I’m setting up meetings with other parents in my youngest son’s school (15
year old). We are going to mail out to the rest of the parents to
determine which parents are against this imminent threat to our
children. Of course there will be plenty ready to have their kids
poisoned but we shall see if we can get 10 to 20% of the parents
together.
We will not stand for it and we have already made contact with a lawyer.
Once they get wind of a law suit, I think they will fold in our school.
All parents should do the same immediately”
GM Rik. No problem, Peter Tatchell has said that boys of 9 or 10 or there about enjoy sex with older men & he and the Labour party support its legalization , the SNP’s Wee Jimmie Krankie wants to give kids of 16 or less the vote, doctors prescribe birth control pills to underage girls all the time & certain groups are advocating for minors to get sex change operations on the NHS without their parents consent so what is the problem in having 12 year olds vaccinated against Covid-19 if the UK allows babies to be vaccinated against diphtheria, polio, hooping cough, measles & other infectious disease’s ?
Did you miss the piece I posted a few days ago about the Israeli scientists whose trials showed the Ivermectin/Zinc protocols made the “vaccine” unnecessary??
Also
“The Israel Health Ministry is examining a small number of cases
related to inflammation of the heart muscle, called myocarditis, in
individuals inoculated with Pfizer and BioNtech’s Covid-19 vaccine.
The ministry’s unpublished report produced data on the side
effects of the Covid-19 vaccine, raising concerns on the possible link
between the second dose and myocarditis cases, particularly in men under
30, Channel 12 reported.”
https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/news/israel-myocarditis-pfizer-vaccine/
The reality is the risk of Covid deaths in children is miniscule,it is a fine balance wether Covid or the “vaccine” is the higher risk
Your comparison with such lethal diseases as Polio is fallacious
This is pure left wing sensationalism – the report’s purpose was to lay a charge against Netanyahu & the previous governments handling of their successful vaccination campaign. Israels Channel 12 is hard core anti-Netanyahu & its reporters would fit in well at the BBC . All of the small number of young people who had a short term adverse reaction to the Pfizer vaccine have recovered . The treatment with Ivermectin/Zinc works best with vaccinated individuals who contracted Covid-19, their recovery is a matter of days unlike the unvaccinated & the vaccinated with pre-existing conditions whose recovery takes longer & in the case of the unvaccinated can take a week or longer after hospitalization.
The simple answer to your question is that NO ONE KNOWS whether the present vaccines are safe or not.
The ones you suggest have been tried and tested over several generations. And even they are known to affect some (mercifully few) recipients adversely.
The simple answer Bill is that the vaccines work & nobody has been testing vaccines produced generations ago to see if they have serious effects later on in life
I just don’t know how you can say that, Hatman. The covid is rampant; people who have been doubly-vaccinated are going down with it and some are dying. The “experts” are now saying that the positive effects may only last a few months.
The vaccines against the older diseases DO work, because the prevalence of measles, mumps, polio etc is miniscule.
I don’t know how much truth there is in it but Mike Yeadon has allegedly said that those who has the convid vaccine will be dead in 2-3 years. Something a commenter posted on TCW. https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/70259-2/
I believe the prediction is between 3-5 years for older people and 8-10 years for the young and fit, on a sliding scale.
That will give our sons about 5 years to enjoy their inheritance then. Not sure about the grandchildren – so far unjabbed at 3 and 6 but their parents have assured them they will be able to get the jab in due course.
‘Morning, Elf.
The big difference is that all those non-covid vaccinations you list are voluntary & done with parents’ consent. It sounds as though the covid vax will be mandatory & without parents’ consent.
338123+ up ticks,
Fact,
https://twitter.com/NKrankie/status/1430830059372392449
Morning all, this is so distressing to watch, the reason for this appalling behaviour is not clear but share it with as many as possible. 5 of them assaulting and kneeling on his head for one assumes is an innocent busker. It is basically GBH assault.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/busker-s-head-gushing-with-blood-after-five-officers-perform-arrest/vi-AANGchT?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531
GM Eddy. Yet the cowardly police will not tackle Jihadist & Black thugs or Extinction Rebellion saboteurs .
Exactly right Hatters. They are dreadful.
…or the bearded brigade holding (illegal) prayer meetings in the royal parks…
Grrrr
Weren’t roads closed in London every Saturday so Hamza could hold his meetings?
No thanks…
Oh gwan gwan gwan…… 🤩
Plum, It’s just another public display of how our police farce have become Nazi-ised. And what appeared to be an innocent busker in a park in the lovey seaside town of Bournemouth.
They haven’t (yet) gone the full OZ and started shooting at people protesting.
They shot all the dogs in a compound waiting to be rescued. My QLD cousins will be mad at that.
And have been arresting people for crossing the streets where the borders are set in place through the middle of NSW and QLD towns.
I might get an update from my old mate Bruce this week.
Peace and Love brother….I’m having my very own Hippie Hour!
BLM(Busker’s Lives Matter) , well not to the Perlice
Lay off the police on this. He probably brought it on himself. According to witnesses, a council worker told him to move on, but he got obstreperous and started to attack the worker. The police were called, he tried the same thing on them and they responded accordingly.
“… a council worker told him to move on..” Was the council worker wearing an official armband? I thought in my innocence that no one in the UK can “ask you to move on”.
“… a council worker told him to move on..” Was the council worker wearing an official armband? I thought in my innocence that no one in the UK can “ask you to move on”.
Aside from the council thinking it is the centre of the universe, perhaps it really is time to remind the wasters that they are servant, not master?
I suppose they would say that in hind sight it’s the norm eh 🤗
I doubt if the ‘jobs worth’ council worker was qualified to move him on.
What every happened before the police started to beat him up is not strictly relevant. There were plenty of witnesses to the violent behaviour.
More public money wasted on another pointless prosecution.
Why do they hunt Quorn? It’s bland, rubbery muck.
338123+up ticks,
The bog man speaketh, a fine specimen of today’s in-house politico’s,
https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/status/1430807652901195778
I wish he was the real Bog Man………..glaring robot eyes and Teflon.
338123+ up ticks,
Morning RE,
Whats missing then ?
He hates everyone else on the planet except George Soros.
Have you seen the film Ghost Writer.
338123+ up ticks,
Afternoon RE,
If its a talkie, no.
It doesn’t actually or even strongly suggest it’s about Blair but………….
I prefer this:
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5f3055f45b3b4db73da52054f94156e4407947040a094365aba50daab61b1dc2.jpg
That’s what i mean Anne, hung drawn and halved.
It looks like a chrysalis.
It’s the lie ‘evidence is clear (as if Blair has ever bothered about evidence!) that it reduces the risk of transmission’.
That’s categorically bolleaux. A vaccine helps NO ONE but the person being vaccinated.
Oh well luv you and leave you, I have to pop off the buy some plumbing bits and pieces and gas for my blow torch, so i’d better remember to take my Passport to prove i’m over 18……….😏
And your mask – so when you leave without paying, they won’t be able to recognise you.
Masks became normal – and then banks actually wanted people to wear them.
I always have one in my pocket and my card in my wallet.
All done, plumbing leak fixed but it was hard work and in a very awkward spot, as is the norm.
With the govt saying councils must buy/build large enough houses for the VERY large families arriving from Afghanistan – can I ask – what housing were they living in back in Afghanistan? – Also a very large house paid for by everyone else??I doubt it.
Postie just delivered ….my NHS- No Hope Service hospital app. 12 noon today!
Best run, then….
Better than one I got – my appt then was 2 days before the letter arrived. I rang up, got verbal for not attending, then I told them the letter had only just got here.
Bet they didn’t believe you…
They didn’t.
Told you!
Just imagine what’ll happen when they are allowed to fine people for not attending….
A few years ago, similar situation, got a warning letter for “not attending” ( an appt I knew nothing about ) and a lecture on cost of wasted appointments. I was actually going opposite the hospital so decided to call in. Got to reception, explained i’d had NO notice of the missed appt. She then admitted that there had been a temp in the office weeks previously, job was to send out the letters for appointments. She didn’t bother sending them out – so the hospital had about 2 weeks of nobody turning up . Further hassle was that the usual girl returned, started sending out the warning letters, before they found the fault – that nobody knew they actually had an appointment in the first place !!! Temp never returned. God knows how much was wasted.
Grovelling apology?
Thought not.
The receptionist was apologetic, it wasn’t her fault, but she was clearly the one taking the flak – I think I was the tenth complainant that morning – and it was ony 9 am.
Inefficiency and incompetence seems rife throughout the NHS.
You will be at the back of the queue now….
I’ve been at the back of the queue since I was born.
That’s the trouble with having the queue in alphabetical order. 😉
I generally get a text message the day before, as a reminder about an appointment that had been texted the day it was made but Ipswich hospital rang me about an appointment in September and said a letter would follow – then I got a letter telling me that the appointment confirmation letter will follow. Talk about inefficiency!
Got to keep all this expensive admin staff busy, doncha know?
Don’t forget the cost as well. I’ve asked this lot to just text me – no – data privacy. They’ve just sold my medical records to the world. AAAAARRRRGH
Same as these private open topped “consultation booths” in chemists – everyone in the shop can hear what is said !!!
Best I can do is hop……
Well, here’s hopping, then.
We could have a three legged race.
That comment is probably offensive to someone.
All of my comments meet that criteria.
Tut, Phil. Either those criteria (pl) or that criterion (s).
That’s what i meaned.
Oime Jike the pig
Deedle eedle eedle dum…
..only if you let me win….!
‘Morning, Plum.
How is your ankle these days?
&$!#%….&$!#%…..&$!#%…..and then some!
Afternoon Plum,
Sorry to hear your ankle is still causing you trouble.
I wonder whether you would consider a pet cat , so many are in rescue and looking for homes .
A cat would probably soothe you, dogs can some times be quite indifferent , and going for a walk could pose many problems for you, the poo pick up bit etc .
No thanks Belle….
GM Plum, sorry to hear that, ankles take a long time to heel, cracked both of mine from separate falls over the years & they are still weak
:-((
I had an NHS letter yesterday – inviting me to take part in some convid research to find out about levels in different areas in the general population. Straight in the recycling bin.
…..was it from the Guinea Pig Dept…..?
Or the ‘Gullible Fools r us’ Dept.
GN MiM, binned it, norty norty, no soup for you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryNxl-lpOME
I had one of those some months ago – ended in the recycling bin as well. I must be one of the few people who has so far escaped having a ‘test’.
Join the ‘test free’ club! Being retired helps with no employer in the picture.
Yes – I feel sorry for my friends who work in schools – they have to do tests all the time and they’ve had so much disruption to their work and the children’s learning.
I’ll have to have one if they ever let us travel anywhere again, but I really can’t see the point of testing people who are not unwell.
The more people who take a test, the more alleged cases they ‘identify’ – gotta keep the fear up!
The only time I would take a test would be when we can travel without to Canada again to see our son and grandchildren. We’ll wait until things settle down a lot more, manageable queues getting back through border control, no mandatory tests, no masks on planes or in airports – I reckon it won’t be until at least 2023.
I’ve had to put off the trip to Kenya yet again – also BA cancelled our return flight – without offering any alternative or a refund. I’ll probably have to waste hours on the phone to them tomorrow trying to get our money back.
I’m presuming tests for travel are here to stay – perhaps something a bit quicker and cheaper than the current ones.
#MeToo, J – and the other Mum.
I hope you got there in time Plum!
Did I FK…….!
My morning post consisted of a letter from the bBC tv tax folk, stating that they would be paying me a visit on 9 Sep 21 as they have no record of a tv licence for my address.
As the bBC sales database is not on a par with the census they can visit as often as they like but they’ll gain no entry or get my details as I am a law-abiding non-customer.
I know an elderly chap who has been threatened by the tv mafia and doesn’t even have a TV.
They must be desperate for funding. Any clown from the bBC tv tax ‘Enforcement Division’ who may turn up on the doorstep is nothing more than a commissioned salesman.
For years they’ve attempted to bully non-customers, who have been under the bBC-fed illusion that their staff have some sort of legal standing. Unfortunately, (for them) they are more akin to Jeremy Kyle than Judge Dredd.
As an aside, I wonder if they are quite so vociferous in knocking on doors in the more ghettoised parts of our towns and cities?
Good morning all.
A bit of a lie in until Missy got me up.
The Indy’s dear little Tom Peck still hasn’t got over it.
Christmas is not cancelled because your Chinese tat didn’t arrive, Mr Peck.
Tryin to unpick Peck’s article: he’s angry he didn’t get his own way and that the people he hates so vehemently did and is blaming them for his not getting what he wants.
Is he two?
Oh dear – I couldn’t be bothered to read all of it. He obviously never spent Christmas as a child in the 1950s with a widowed mother……. we didn’t have much but we had enough.
338123+ up ticks,
May one ask if an attack is imminent will appeasement be a strong enough force to save the day ?
breitbart,
‘Do Not Travel’: UK warns of ‘Very, Very Credible’ Intelligence of Imminent Attack at Kabul Airport
Sigh………Camps,it always ends in camps
https://twitter.com/Geezy_21z/status/1430826184741466113?s=20
Aus seems to be the testbed for these lunacies closely followed by NZ and Canada
How soon before here too??
That Australia was built by convicts is a myth. It was built by the warders, whose descendants continue to run it.
Wherever there is an unarmed population an authoritarian government like the Globalist Socialist regimes in Australia, New Zealand & the UK it can happen. In Canada they still can legally own rifles & pistols albeit with limited ammo capacity magazines so first they will have to ban firearm ownership before being able to enforce quarantine camps.
Victoria has it already planned too
https://www.vic.gov.au/victorian-quarantine-hub
Purely for their own good, of course…
Do you think our government will run rescue flights for unjabbed people out of Australia?
Only if they are muslim. They seem to prefer that type.
We haf ways of giving you ze jab. We also haf efficient crematoria.
Hmm, that almost rhymes with Victoria.
FFS – Why don’t they issue the Health Visitors /Police each with a hammer, bag of nails and a tin of red paint – It worked in the 1600s ….
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1430846263658901504
Why would Afghanistan need a Defence Minister?
Yes , I wondered that .
What role have Pakistan got re aiding and abetting these terror groups , and surely Qatar has been a hideaway for many of these horrid hatefilled Muslims who are creating fear and terror through out the globe .
Good choice. He’ll have the experience. If the US did the appropriate detainee thing in Guantanamo we in the West (USA) will have a handle on how he thinks. (Although a 12 year old could probably guess that – murder, slaughter, get retaliation in first…)
2 week ago, my window cleaner said ” I know you’ve got health probs at the moment so anything I can do to help, just give me a ring”, I told him that I didn’t have his number so couldn’t. “I’ll write it on a paper and shove it through the letterbox”
He calls to see his parents most days, who live opposite. Still waiting for the number. And he just pulled up at his parents house, after driving past me without a glance.
Probably for health reasons he only cleans clean windows & not dirty ones!
338123+ up ticks,
We have tooled them up in armaments now we give them the jabber franchise, will the jabber wear a burka purely to protect the guilty.
check this out,
https://youtu.be/zfUzm6NmfoE
As I wrote earlier on here NHS = National Hamas Service
Japanese Whaling Fleet misses opportunity
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/43c60fd36e72b4789d1c4a6252ee641838001b1945feb2af2b7fac2d30529f26.png
Edit
I better not get too mouthy
http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d3a86cd2f08c65d97580c289d9872cf7aef7d0d2d82db2d4a2ec7155369b04ac.jpg
The write up takes the plss out of her. Add to that her Blaming her neighbour because getting the vaccination would have stopped him getting Covid is laughable because she doesn’t realise that the vaccine didn’t stop her getting it and making her seriously ill (she wouldn’t have known about her death then . . . .).
That’s got to be a joke, surely?
It is probably just a photo from the rest stop at Walmart (it is beside the frozen pizza aisle).
No sheila johnson story on cnn.
What, precisely, does she blame them for?
The logic is insane. It’s just idiotic, so idiotic, I believe it’s waffly propaganda without substance.
Darwinism in action – weed out the physically and mentally unable.
Obesity and diabetes (often linked) seem to be major risk factors for this bug.
https://youtu.be/foYz04QBmmE
A sensible little piece from GB News.
You can only judge risk with evidence. Heck, that’s my bally job.
Without all the information, you cannot make an informed decision. The state is deliberately hiding the information people need to judge risk.
He’s right – it’s time to let people judge for themselves and get on with living. I certainly don’t want another winter like the last one. Time to lift the travel restrictions as well.
Follow-up to the recent conversation about renewing driving licences for over-70s:- I applied online to renew my licence last Friday (20th August). I received my new licence today (Thursday 26th August). My previous licence was a paper one, the new licence is a photo-id credit card size. I have no health conditions or eyesight problems, so it was straightforward. I did, though, have to relinquish my entitlement to drive additional vehicles e.g. 16-seater minibus and up to 7.5T vehicles – if I wanted to retain these I would have had to apply by post.
It would seem the problems that people are having renewing their licences are related to postal applications. No complaint about DVLA service from me.
Nor from me. I received my new licence a few days after applying on line.
Same here – straightforward online renewal – I have no need of extra categories. i think mine arrived in three days last April. I kept the old one till the new one arrived, then sent it back as requested.
I ‘forgot’ to send my old licence back. The sky hasn’t fallen in.
I kept my paper one as a souvenir when I got the new card one three years ago.
For some unaccountable reason, when I tried to renew mine on line, Aeneas, it was rejected because they couldn’t find my passport – presumably for the photo – which doesn’t expire until 2028.
I had to renew with a paper application, which I sent off in May. Finally got a new licence in mid-August.
I sent my renewal (by post) 14th. July. So far – zilch.
I took photocopies of everything before I posted it off. I went into the system yesterday and got a licence check code number:
https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence
I agree. If you just want a car licence and can do it online, you get it back quickly. If you want to keep your C1 D1 entitlements, you are in for a long wait (six months in my case).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-58330796?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA
It’s sad news, simply as someone has died. People die from medicine.
Throughout this whole covid thing we’ve never been told the truth. Facts took a back seat to propaganda that suited the state line. The data was hidden and disguised. Honesty destroyed. The state went to a war footing – against the public.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/sturgeon-urges-snp-members-to-back-green-deal-in-independence-push/ar-AANLExh?ocid=msedgdhp
If Sturgeon could not secure a majority, why was she allowed to form a coalition? The public did not vote for that. The solution must be a new vote, with new policies. If the same result occurs, Scotland has no government.
Er, Cameron did it in 2010 with the Cleggy party.
And ended up with Clegg on his face!
No more nor less than the little twat deserved, BB2.
He’s sorry………not!
The resulting fun of the Lib Dims actually having to live up to one of their manifestos proved their undoing. No more telling each constituency a different tale of what they would do, once they got into ‘power’. Suddenly, they were in power and their chicanery was exposed for all to see. At GE15 they ended up with fewer MPs than the number of men who have walked on the Moon.
Mind you, the unflushable EU pension-collecting Clegg is now Reichfuherer in the Facebook ‘fact checking’ carnal house. ‘Earning’ a fortune whilst quashing users freedom of speech.
Dear oh dear. The delightful and ever popular Ms Sturgeon is following the playbook of the former Reichskanzler. Once the coalition has settled in, and the Greens are made fully aware of their place, the next step will be taken. The next step will be to introduce an Enabling Act. This will formalise the present position where all decisions are made by the First Minister, although she sometimes speaks to her Cabinet to make sure of their unstinting and uncritical loyalty.
Ah, 1933 all over again – but, hopefully on a much reduced scale – and history repeats itself but no-one pays any heed.
A 1933 penny would be nice.
“SIR – It is not appropriate to compare vets and GP practices (Letters, August 25). Vets are private businesses that require contact with the animals to generate income.
GPs’ main income is from patient lists, and is paid whether they see patients or not. Change this to “item of service per patient contact” and you will see a big difference – though your appointment is likely to be short.
Dr Robert Mitchell
Poulton-le-Fylde, Lancashire”
Oh, Dr Mitchell…couldn’t vets just guess – down the phone – like you wonderful GPs do?
We’ve had no problem with our GP, so it’s not universal. The doc actually phoned OH the other day and he had a face to face an hour later.
Us too. Up to a point.
It was just the smugness of the letter writer than I was taking the piss out of…!
A diagnosis is made by the GP/Vet making a decision based upon the signs and symptoms displayed by the patient. The signs are what the doctor can actually see: the symptoms are what the patient tells him.
On the end of a telephone line there are absolutely no signs for either the GP or the Vet to see!
A human patient may clearly describe his symptoms; however, a cat (or horse, cow, ass, mule, sheep, pig, goat or dog) cannot!
How the hell can any medical practitioner make a proper diagnosis if he cannot see any signs, and only get symptoms from a human?
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b0ae6412986ab617b64cbf2e9176221dddee662789c31bf54b316182130323ca.gif
“What’s up dog?”
Clearly been in a fight with that black eye.
Just be quiet; don’t waste doctor’s time – and die alone and in pain.
Letter on the topic just posted off to the DT.
As you’re one of the favoured few – you might see it in print.
I’m only permitted one a year! If I changed my name to Lord Lexden, Philip Duly, Mick Ferrie or Ted Shorter, I’d get one every week!
Try Ann O’nions.
Jane.
Thank you and apologies for conflating you (minus ‘e’) and an onion.
Or Jane Farmer?
Don’t hold yer breath…
🤐
For some reason, although ‘New Comments’ are back, I still cannot see these ’emojis’. they just appear as a little outline of a square.
Moi aussi, Tom. It’s ‘coz they’s from a Mac!
‘Afternoon, George, “…and only get symptoms from a human?”
Which symptoms may be exaggerated.
‘Afternoon, Tom.
And which frequently are. [Oooh! Me back!!!!]
I think its our old friend ‘post code lottery’.
In news from the colony, a government minister was caught referring to the taliban as “our brothers”. The minister was born in Afghanistan and dismissed criticism as a cultural thing.
Needless to say, most of the media have not covered this little slip.
https://twitter.com/marion1_alice/status/1430859789421137923
The truth will out.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9928939/BBC-presenter-Lisa-Shaw-died-complications-caused-AstraZeneca-covid-jab-coroner-rules.html
Looks like I had a lucky escape then – no reaction whatsoever from mine. I won’t be bothering with the booster though.
MB is now brooding on his experience a fortnight after his first jab.
My personal thought is that his bout of Covid (we are as sure about that as anything) a year beforehand may have triggered off some wandering clots, but the jab either coalesced them or gave them wings.
I think I had a mild dose in January 2020 as well.
MB had an appalling cough for about a fortnight and got breathless halfway up the stairs. And that was in addition to an overall feeling of general crappiness.
Mine was nothing too bad but I think I caught it at a drinks party the week before.
I caught mine going racing at Haydock Park during Storm Brian. Stress, plus getting cold and wet, must have jiggered my immune system.
#metoo. End Feb 2020.
33 Billion EXTRA for the NHS you say……………
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2f155f35c6dab5f31490e68e98e91d5141ef324899facc7d15a2bf8304a006b2.jpg
33 billion extra? – cash or patients?
Yesterday I sat chairing a meeting with very, very expensive project managers.
They complained that they were too busy writing things down and having meetings to get things done. They asked me what would help them with their work.
I said yes, your projects are failing because you’re not using tools properly – or at all. You spend all your time talking about work, updating ten people with the same information in expensive spreadsheets and long email chains.
I presented a simple tool that would help them reduce that lost time by at least 5 times over, more if they used it better.
They opined that they were too busy and had too much to do to use a tool (such as a centralised document repo).
I’ve had such meetings before. It’s just exhausting to see the same mistakes being made over and over again and the same thing that would prevent those mistakes being refused under the banner of ‘I’m too busy’.
In another example, one Dept head insists on updating a spreadsheet, which she then expects me to update in a central tool, but then demands an export of the tool to update manually – despite her having direct access to the same tool to update herself. Again, she’s too busy. Oddly, though, she never considers I might be as well. When I was, she had something of a paddy.
I don’t like people. I dislike their desperation to be as inefficient, withholding, protectionist, frightened, empire building as possible. A switch doesn’t complain when I ask it to forward packets. It doesn’t whine about talking to a lower spec version a long way away. It just does as it’s asked because that’s it’s job. It doesn’t demand I write it’s log for it.
Gah, I am ranting.
Ah, Wibbles, I see that you are working for the National Elf Service, trying to co-ordinate all their fairy whims.
Good luck with that!
It’s the abject refusal, even when faced with the facts – of acknowledging the problem and the solution in preference to whining about it.
I understand the human element, the fear of change. I also refuse to accept it as an excuse. On one project one particular team refused, point blank to use the tooling. The word from on high was ‘fine, let them ignore it’.
They failed. Abjectly. They were five weeks behind everyone else, in complete confusion. In a panic, they asked for help and adopted the tooling everyone else had started. But you’re going in to an environment where everyone in the team had been working 10+ hour days, where management hubris ran things, the real workers had given up or left, the slackers did everything possible to stop doing work and the PMs paralysed.
The first thing, I’d question is, are the procedures fit for purpose?
Who owns them? How may they be modified?
Kick them with something that tells them, using all tools and systems, what they are supposed to do.
I’d love to come in and help you get ’em sorted – it’s what I did.
Sadly, retired and desperately wanting something to get my teeth into.
Sounds about right.
Jesus Aitch.
MB received a letter from the cardiologist who he saw a week or so ago about a pacemaker (decision on both sides ‘No’; he needs a plumber rather than an electrician).
Slight hitch – despite the name, address and DOB being correct – the rest of the letter was for an entirely different patient with an entirely different heart problem. As the suggested medication list reeled out and acronyms like COPD appeared, MB realised that the letter was nothing to do with him. It was when he was described as a ‘retired paratrooper’ that the utter absurdity sunk in; as MB himself remarked “I come out in a cold sweat when I reach the third rung of a stepladder”.
So, this afternoon is now dedicated to cardiac nurses, scanning and photo copying faulty letter, unsuccessful attempt to speak to cardio surgeon’s secretary (“Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday – ring back after the BH weekend”) and now MB has nipped up to
Fort KnoxGP’s surgery to sort out the muddle before this faulty – and potentially lethal – information becomes embedded in their system.What chance does anyone the slightest bit confused stand?
Should of gorn to the vet.
AND he’d have been given a treat afterwards for being a good boy.
Price discretely added to the bill….!
Tut !!!!!!! DiscrEEtly.
Shut yer face. I was just testing to see if you was awake.
🙂 Give yer ortokrekt a good slap.
I don’t have one. I relay on my ennate abbilitie to speil krekly.
Well, it work well, innit.
Yerss
There’s now a nation wide shortage of veterinaries………..Mr ‘eriot 🤔
Though, many homeless VETerans who served their country, Eddy.
They might like to try Truck driving i’ve heard it pays well and the cabs are quite homely as well.
None whatever – could be a plot to kill them off. Hope he gets his correct details sorted.
There’s a reason why MB and I like terriers; fellow feeling.
Get yer teef in girl (and OH) and don’t let go until you kill the rat!
Practice manager took charge; the ‘communication’ hasn’t yet arrived at the GP’s and MB oversaw the manager enter a warning on his notes. Watch this space.
NHS front line brilliant, admin and management a disaster.
Today entirely by accident I found out that a batch of medication was waiting at the local pharmacy for me as prescribed by the cardiology department i was in about 2 weeks ago. Thanks (sarc) for contacting me to let me know Doc, before you took your well earned summer break.
It’s past its sell by date, too, Eddy. You’ll have to ask for a new one…..
As the scale of the outrage becomes apparent, it is the last forty years of corruption in public health and its totally appalling results for the health of very many of us under the age of sixty that are now stark before us. The poisonous CV vaccines are the icing on the cake for these creeps.
https://www.tarableu.com/where-are-the-vaccine-death-autopsies/
At least they seem to have done one on Lisa Shaw.
This site can’t be reached.
Please check the link, Jonathan, if it’s viable it should come up in RED on your post – when posted.
If not, try edit, check again and repost. Thank you.
Reposted. Thank you.
I’ve added you to the trusted list, Jonathan, so you can post links ok now.
Thank you very much, Ndovu!
Thanks Jonathan, when I replaced the word DOT with a full stop, it works, thus:
https://www.tarableu.com/where-are-the-vaccine-death-autopsies/
More Anti-Vax propaganda, no thanks !
Don’t go there, Elfin.
I don’t. I don’t pay much attention to the wilder claims about the vaccine, either.
It’s a personal decision. Take it or not, up to you/me.
Modern Life…………..
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Nicked and thanks, Rik, for Ar5ebook. I hope it might last.
Do you get stuff removed from Arsebook? I keep off anything political there.
Oh, I revel in it, J, if only to get up the noses of the so-called fat-checkers, sorry, fact-checkers.
Pickles – while sympathising with Gus – wishes it to be known that there is nothing wrong with HIM. He was about 12 ft up this young oak…
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How is Gus? Is he eating a bit more?
Thank you – yes. A small piece of boiled chicken.
“My human slaves…I might just be able to force down some salmon, nicely poached, and a morsel of finely chopped chicken liver”
Yes…he’s just eaten Pickles….
Now this IS awkward
“Officials say the foreign substances are in the form of particles and believed to be metal as they are attracted to a magnet.”
“Substance in Moderna vaccine believed to be metal”
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20210826_24/
Yet again the difference between a truly loony “conspiracy theory” and a fact??
6 months in this case, remember the mocking by the MSM of the “This jab is magnetic”people
There was a video circulating a few days ago of a group of German doctors and lawyers looking at someone’s blood under the microscope, from a recently jabbed patient.
They observed two strange things: firstly, the red blood cells were stacked in chains, like a pile of coins. They say this is usually only seen in blood cancer patients for example.
The second was the presence of objects that were tiny, but quite a lot bigger than red blood cells. These objects reflected light, and the doctor speculated that they might be metallic.
I don’t know which manufacturer the vaxx was from in that case.
This was not a research finding, merely an observation, and the group was keen to say that more investigation must be done.
Simple test:
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If there is a magnetic or electrostatic effect, I would expect it to be far too weak to stick magnets to the skin though. Perhaps someone on NOTTL who intends to have a covid jab could do some experiments for us? Might affect something as tiny as a blood cell, but not a magnet.
On to Plan B.
Hatman’s intending to have the booster jab.
The Pfizer one & I am waiting on the updated version that will be more effective against the Delta strain, its due to be released by years end, till then I will hold off my #3 jab ( I am not due for one till mid September anyway )
FHI in Norway are advising that people in reasonable health catch the delta variant, to provide additional immunity over that provided by whichever (not AZ) vaccine.
So is Best Beloved, despite all evidence to the contrary.
Some people just won’t be told.
That’s no good. It just attracts the North/South divide.
…and there’s plenty doing that already, Anne.
I agree, Stig.
Here’s a thought: Are people living in Gdańsk and Poznań North Poles; and those living in Wrocław and Kraków South Poles?
Grizz your joke Krakows me up !
Stupid Q – is it not simply the broken seal?
Could be – but it seems that the fragments end up in the blood. Is this normal after a jab??
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e81fed147a442c10cc27d1b3c34dc33eeab6318f2b19e877f21d9a09a2df4990.png Duly signed!
#Metoo!
I had that letter but went their website and wrote this, under ‘Cancel Culture’:
Not JUST the cancel culture. Don’t you, ‘For Britain’ and the ‘Reform Party’, all with similar aims – to break the Lib/Lab/Con stranglehold – recognise that separately, all you are doing is splitting the votes of we, who want a viable alternative; consider amalgamating and forming one STRONG party that will appeal to the ‘thinking’ voter?
That’s a fair comment. Divided they fall.
Indeed.
That’s why I can’t take them seriously.
All these look like they are there to parade the high hiedyins, not solve the political problems of the UK. Add to that they have little political and administrative experience in running a country, and, well, … UKIP having a new leader every day of the week and twice on Thursdays was the heads-up in this respect.
I had the email, but the link to Sign Here didn’t work!
Breaking News : Suicide bombing leaves multiple injured at Kabul airport https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/large-explosion-at-abbey-gate-at-the-kabul-airport-report-677790 Pentagon press secretary confirmed an explosion at Kabul airport. By SIMCHA PASKO, REUTERS AUGUST 26, 2021 17:35
At least thirteen people, including several children, have been killed and wounded in a suicide bombing at the Kabul airport.
A second blast has been reported by Fox News.
The blast took place at Abbey Gate at Hamid Karzai International Airport, according to a tweet from Pentagon press secretary John Kirby.
American soldiers and other foreigners were injured and killed in the blast, an official Taliban source confirmed via Al Jazeera.
They just can’t help themselves, can they.
It’s all they know about how to get their way. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/11efff35cccdebe4bf9c42dd8d7eb220687e8c6b23d1992d17603af2e6f07b05.gif
In the next frame, they’re all aboard a flight to the UK to claim asylum…
Presumably that happened because the new ludicrous “minister” James Unhappily (or similar) said it would.
From The Grimes:
“James Heappey, minister for the armed forces, warned this morning of the threat of a suicide bomb attack at Kabul airport within “hours”, as western governments issued co-ordinated statements advising anyone not inside the airport’s perimeter at dawn to “leave immediately”.
Speaking to broadcasters, Heappey’s voice cracked as he said that despite the threat of an attack, crowds of people desperate to escape Afghanistan were still waiting at the airport.
The danger carried “real imminence, real credibility and real lethality”, Heappey told LBC. “Imminence as in days?” asked radio host Nick Ferrari. “Hours,” the minister replied. “I was given lines today for what might happen if the attack happened while I was doing this media round.””
shooting is going on. BBC radio 4pm news.
Shots fired in the BBC – excellent news , I hope the mob ransack & burn the BBC HQ
We wondered this morning if the warning by the UK and USA was made up as a way of clearing the routes to the airport. If so, it seems to have worked. Of course, the bombing may not have been caused by us, I suppose. ( I no longer take anything at face value.)
The Taliban are probably using the Semtex & timers that Uncle Sam paid for !
They have lots of new and very dangerous stuff to play with. Guns, missiles, planes, helicopters and any number of trucks. Mmm, it’s like Christmas for them… erm…well…
Eid say you were almost correct.
I don’t think it’s the Taliban this time. They want the infidel out of Afghanistan, since it saves on the cost of bullets and clearing up after a bit of choppery. They need to leave behind females aged 12-40 though.
Journalists on the ground seem to think it’s rebels who think the Taliban have gone soft and have joined Islamic State.
Ah, “New Taliban” – like “New Liebour”….
But not as bad?
Suicide bombers I think. There could be more. The flights will no longer be safe. An Italian plane was shot at today.
Yes. There was an official suggestion a few days ago that if such bombings and attacks did occur at the airport all flights carrying Afghans would cease at once and we’d immediately begin our departure.
There will probably be medics and nurses among the awaiting crowds awaiting access to the airport. I wonder if they will step forward to assist the wounded. It would probably be their plane ticket if they did so.
I have been erecting an oak-framed outbuilding over the last few months. They say it takes a normal person skilled in these things a couple of days, but a fat old bloke living on his own has to make use of the staff he has.
I’m up to the roof frame now, but got stuck on the corner rafters, which bear onto a queen post and then need to be pegged in.
When I got the scaffold tower, the 6′ x 2′ platform was perfect for putting the queen post onto perched on a converted upturned flower pot and four bricks, ready to push the corner rafters and braces into.
However, there isn’t enough space for a fat old bloke as well, and the squirrels are not being co-operative, since they prefer to spend their summer raiding the ripe hazelnuts. I can get up through the trapdoor, but have nowhere to heave myself up onto.
So another few weeks of head scratching and back onto the laptop to dispense some more wisdom onto fellow nottlers, some of whom might be better builders than I will ever be.
Careful on the ladder….(an expert writes..!!)
My mother said the same thing to me this morning. Falling to my death like a much-loved character on The Archers is ok, since I won’t know any better. However, I really don’t fancy sitting in a Covid incubation chamber with no windows in the local NHS-PFI Special Measures for a minimum six hours (at least that’s what it was the last time I went a number of years ago) waiting for Triage.
The local paper today reported that someone with a suspected heart attack was sitting on a chair for 16 hours in a waiting room. If he died, then it was just another number to add to the day’s body count. If he didn’t, then they could chalk it up as another NHS patient successfully cured, so let’s all clap.
So my ladder only goes to the first stage.
Can you not prop the queenpost without using the scaffolding, then climb on the scaffolding to fi it all together?
The bottom of it is 18 feet in the air. A bit wobbly propped up at that height.
Ah… a wand & swish and flick?
Attention all Nottlers : I have good news for you, I will be taking a break from posting on NTTL as of today Thursday 26th August 2021, as I feel that I am swimming against the tide of common sense & rationality on here with the irrational Anti-Vaxxer majority holding sway on NTTL. I wish you & families good luck , stay safe & well. Note that if & when I return it will probably be as Sputnik One https://disqus.com/by/sputnikone/ my main blog owning account & will put Elf & Safety into semi-retirement from use. There will be no bedtime music selection tonight , so all the best & wish me luck as you wave me goodbye
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_f5NbPOOGE
Sorry to see you go, time will tell who is correct.
We won’t live long enough to know.
Probably not.
You know where to find me.
Elf, I am sorry if anything I have said has caused you to feel oppressed and in the minority. I tried to keep our exchange jokey earlier, so as to prevent any bad feeling. I completely respect your decision to do what you believe to be best for your health, and value the balance that your pro-jab opinions bring to this site.
I have enjoyed my time on here but now I am retreating to the Fuhrer bunker on my own blogs
It’s not just about jabs, you contribute a lot of humour, experience, world view etc that I certainly appreciate. Look after yourself, won’t you, and see you again hopefully.
TYVM
Double-jabbed and happy, me. Next year and all that, E & S.
Next year in Jerusalem Joseph !
Good Grief! You imagined that we had common sense and were rational? Thing is, how can that be defined? If we take one view and 99.9% take the other view does that make them nuts or us? Hope to see you back soon, Sputnik One. We need your viewpoint, or we’ll fall off the see-saw.
As a 6 inch little Elf my viewpoint is always looking up ( so don’t wear a short skirt or a kilt when I’m around )
Mr. Hat! We will miss you! You have never pushed your point, and I’m sure that has been much appreciated by us all. We may disagree but you are a joy to spar with and you are always polite! Does that sound patronising? Sorry Mr. Hat, I didn’t mean it to!
Your wonderful musical interludes will be sadly missed, as well! Bless you and hurry back!
Sue if you had learned to shoot straight you wouldn’t have missed me & I intend to have more music on my TGIOF blog – I’ve posted a link
Ha! I always thought I was a straight shooter – seems I was mistaken! Take care and stay safe!😘
Like in most areas of life, there are no certainties, and I listen to all points of view. You present your view with a passion and you may be 100% correct, but in a relatively free society others are allowed their say and it is for us to consider the argument.
There are no free societies only those where life is a bit more stable & pleasant for us hoi polloi
That’s the point of NoTTlers shurely to express one’s views. Friggin’ boring if we all agree with fellow posters…..
I disagree with that statement.
Variety used to be the spice of life.
Hundred per cent agree. It’s why I stopped posting here some months ago. I thought sanity should have prevailed by now, but they’re still going on.
You mean posters didn’t agree with you…!
Another “my way or the wrong way” exponent.
I’ve posted the links to my blogs, you are welcome to post on them.
Hat, I never thought you would ….flounce!
My dear Miss Plum, as an ex-soldier a tactical retreat is the order of the day, you will find me on my blogs posting as Sputnik One https://disqus.com/by/sputnikone/ on 1) The Sputniks Orbit https://disqus.com/home/forum/thesputniksorbit-blogspot-com/ ( defence, science & technology only ) & 2) the TGIOF blogspot https://disqus.com/home/forum/https-tgiof-blogspot-com/ General news & politics which I might soon change into a music & entertainment blog. All Nottlers are invited.
So long as you keep putting up videos of those gorgeous young lady singers….
Maybe soon on TGIOF
Good grief, Hatman – just because we don’t agree with your view does not mean that we are crazy or that you are. Just that we disagree.
See my analogy early with those who wished to leave the EU. We were not crackpots – nor were the remainers. Just saw things differently.
Anyway – may your God go with you.
God had us wonder the desert for 40 years without even as much as salt beef sandwich or a pickled herring to break the monotony of a diet of Manna from Heaven 3 times a day . All the best Bill, I’ll be in my Fuhrer bunker on my blogs.
Under that terribly hot sun! It’s a wonder your ancestors’ brains didn’t melt like butter and as a species you didn’t evolve into tea cakes!
We weren’t affected as long as we took 2 tablets
Wasn’t the meaning of “Manna” effectively, “What’s that”?
Nah – that’s Mañana…{:¬))
It means “Portion” no accurate biblical description of it exists – it fell from heaven & was our daily portion
You should have avoided the Burning Bush.
I do, I wear boxer shorts & not over tight Calvin Klein male G-strings
That’s what she gets when trying to bikini wax with Veet.
I’ll get me bath cape… 🙁
Oh, please carry on. I enjoy reading you.
But why leave for the anti vax comments? There aren’t that many and they’re generally not rabid. I quite enjoy the rabid ones as they’re so deluded they’re funny.
Yes, the vaccines can have side effects, including death, and they don’t give 100% protection, but the risks of not having the vaccine are worse for adults and 80% or 90% is better than nothing. If people don’t want to take the vaccine then that’s their choice and if they suffer for that then that’s their lookout.
Well said. I am sceptical about the vaccine – but the MR and I both chose to have it solely because HMG – at that time – implied that, once vaccinated, you would be able to travel, eat out, go about life – quite normally, with no restrictions.
We were, of course, totally hoodwinked.
We have just cancelled the long awaited trip to the South of France in September because of all the buggerment in the UK, the uncertainty in France and the fact that we could not even go to Ventimigia (15 miles away across the frontier in Italy) to do some shopping. And the French demand masks everywhere and a code (the UK one frequently not valid in France) to go to have a drink or a meal or do the effing shopping.
So we stay put. Again. It is the longest period since 1962 that I have not been to France. Grrr.
What a pi$$er, Bill.
We’d planned holiday to UK to visit various crumblies, but no-go. Too difficult. They planned to come here – same. Vax or no vax.
Look on the bright side – there’s money to be saved in not paying for travel and the other costs of time away.
I know. I was just desperate to swim in the sea just 154 steps from the flat we borrow in the block where we lived for two years. This was(is) the view:
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5cd680d556352e00f95eb42587c065b218bf36590bed85b7175385cb037481dc.jpg
Cornish beach….
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/15b18c4965fb96ffd90fae12229e983a37e2ab487be935cf5184547ed0b2607d.jpg
I went to Cornwall once. The sea was freezing; the locals unwelcoming. Delighted to get back to England…
We went there once as well and tried to play golf at the course near to Lands End. The wind was galeing, they had lied about it being a nice summer day.
Looking back, it beats the humid 95F weather we are having here.
Cold, damp and miserable in North Narfurk – and the weather is much the same.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2801403f775757297bf3d7db08d780682990ef7e0cbf60aef58f4d86189ce63d.jpg
:-((
My big wish just now is to go for lunch at the Blue Anchor pub in East Aberthaw, with my family & Mother. Sadly, she’s not capable any more, and we can’t travel either, so I’ll just have to dream.
At least you can still dream.
At least all you can still dream.
;-))
Apparently, it’s dearer to holiday in the Lake District than in Italy!
I’ve had to postpone my trip to Kenya again – and BA cancelled our flight home without offering any refund or alternative.
I had the vax for travel purposes only – I’m fairly sure I had the bug at the beginning of 2020 so would have some natural immunity.
I usually go to Switzerland in September to see my son – I haven’t seen either of them since Christmas 2019.
So much for being able to spend our declining years travelling. This is the longest I’ve stayed sleeping in my own bed at night.
I’ve not seen my Mother since Xmas 2019 either, N. I’m not sure whether I will ever see her alive again… it’s a real pisser, so it is.
At least my sons are younger than I am so I might see them sometime. Much worse for you not being able to visit your mother and make sure she’s ok.
She seems to be OK. There are a lot of kind folk out there, many of whom volunteer or work in care for the elderly.
One is eternally amazed and grateful.
If BA cancelled they are legally bound to give you a refund. Don’t give up, Jules- fight the bastards.
I’m not giving up – postponing the safari but we’re going to cancel the remaining flight and demand a refund. Just that they are so energy-sapping to deal with.
BA Gold Club contact – doesn’t matter if you DON’T belong. We phoned them and got £1,000 back
Tel: 0800 123 111 (from the UK) +44 191 490 7901 (outside the UK) Fax: +44 (0)1787 881405 Mon-Fri 0800-2000 hours / Sat-Sun 0900-1700 hours
Thanks Bill – will make a note of those numbers.
Anti-vaxxers are the type of people who ‘know’ that malevolent imbeciles like David Icke and Alex Jones are talking sense, when the overwhelming evidence is the opposite.
Icke claims that Spanish Flu was spread by Radar, despite it not being invented until WW2 and even more absurdly claims that covid is spread by 4G.
Hope to see many more of your comments pudders!
It’s what makes them so amusing! Radar! Ha! Ha! Ha!
You will find me on my Sputnik, TGIOF & Chucks blogs.
Glad to old chap!
Happy Torsdag, Pud.
TYVM Grizz
Why let it bother you? As far as I’m concerned people can be pro or con about the subject. And if they have a go at me because of my attitude I can choose to pay attention to them or not. If you want to see real anti-vax nuts in action go over to Conservative Women, there are a few choice nutters over there. Here people are pretty mild about the subject.
I have a blog which I created – the Coconut Whisperer – which I transferred ownership to a friend, now over run with anti-vaxxer crackpots & I am sick and tired of the AV mob especially the American ones who are spouting insane conspiracy theories, mostly they are former good & agreeable posters but Trump losing in the fraudulent election plus the Covid-19 plague seems to have un-hinged them en masse & their is no reasoning with them so I am cutting down my posting on there lest I get tempted to ban more of them & I am taking a break from NTTL too .
Well good luck to you but you know very well, as a Jew, you are supposed to argue with everyone, including yourself! At least that way my experience with my late and very missed wife.
Surely you do not seriously believe that anyone who does not share your opinion is automatically irrational?
The good thing about the Nottlers’ site is that we can generally agree to differ without getting upset.
Rastus I am a Jew , all Jews are irrational & neurotic and the problem with the average Nottler is that they have only one opinion on a subject whereas we have 3, 4, 5 or more often contradictory opinions on the same subject and disagree with ourselves on them. So I am taking a break from NTTL & if you are lucky I may return one day & if you are very lucky I won’t !
Sorry you feel that way, Hat. We’ll miss you.
That’s a shame that you’ve decided to call it a day Elfie. I hadn’t noticed that there was much anti vax sentiment beyond people’s own opinions. I’m double jabbed myself and still alive :).
Hope to see you back here after your break.
You be missed Hat. But I’ll be glad when you return as Sputnik One.
Should I have said anything to offend you, I apologise.
as a fellow sarf Londoner you owe me a pint you bugger before you chip! You know it makes sense
I understand, but I’m sorry that you’re leaving. I do hope that your sabbatical will be short and that you’ll realize good health, safety and peace. Prayers for you, your family and your friends, my friend. My husband and I are getting a bit weary with this world gone nuts too.
“I’m from the government and I’m here to help you.” And it’s not only European freelancers whose enthusiasm to work and earn has been affected.
“A huge number, particularly European agency drivers, have returned home.
Why? One key reason is a change in the tax law —something called IR35 —which came into effect this tax year, in April. Previously, agency drivers, who are freelance, set themselves up as contractors.
‘They took home nearly £1,500 a week. They paid tax at ridiculously low rates [because they only paid corporation tax on their profits]. So, these drivers could build a better life, send money home to build a house. That’s what made it wonderfully attractive to so many Europeans.’
That loophole has now been closed — making it far less attractive for freelance drivers.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9927671/Whats-really-driving-food-shelves-HARRY-WALLOP-goes-scenes-investigate.html
Google says it was Gordon Brown.
Correction: Gordon Brown started the ball rolling in 1999 but it was this government that enabled. David Davis MP tried to get it put back to 2023. And failed.
The DVLA also has responsibility in cancelling 30 to 40,000 tests for HGV drivers.
This government is intent on destroying us.
I read that this morning. My reaction wasn’t sympathetic. The company used cheap East European labour (80% of drivers!) and agency drivers (no commitment) to make money despite the attendant risks and then moan when they can’t find British drivers to replace the inevitable holes.
Problem is, the client demands ever-lower prices with ever-increasing quality. The haulier then pushes cost cutting to the drivers, by hiring only lowest pay & contractors. Same thing happening between supermarkets and farmers. And the end user doesn’t want to pay, either, so you end up with the kind of shitestorm now being experienced.
I’ve been in offshore engineering a long time now, and we regularly lose work to eejits, on the basis they are cheap, but you get cheap, you get projects like Yme – a newbuild that had so many faults that it’s actually been demolished without a drop of oil coming onboard!
Buy cheap – buy twice, has always been my caveat.
Yup.
Certainly applies to my lawnmower; I should have spent a bit more and got the next size up 🙁
The Government’s war on freelancers is insane. Freelancers provide vital flexibility in the workforce.
Apparently, all freelancers dodge taxes, and that’s not fair. Apparently.
That there’s no unemployment benefit, you have to pay your own taxes and NI, get professional insurance, fund holidays without holiday pay, and can be laid off with a day or week’s notice is neither here nor gthere, of course.
This, I know from nothing, Paul, hence my finding ways for Tax Avoidance.
IR35 has been around a long time particularly for freelance contractors.
As one that’s why I found tax avoidance.
HAPPY HOUR – captions welcome.
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“I was thinking of somewhere hot and sunny for several weeks….”
Hotel rates are falling in Kabul …..soon to be followed by….
I can offer you two seats on the next flight out of Kabul and for only slightly more money you will not need to quarantine when you arrive at your brand new house that we are paying for.
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Completely off topic
How is this for a canal lock .No need for a series of little lifts, they just raise the whole lock – water and boat included up to the next level. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/99a7c2ccb3bb359e65d12d2161e0930bba3c3738f8ee8eb47e3d2bf2a80746d8.jpg
Nice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tBH9SE-Kw8
And it takes almost no power to whirl it round, either, as it’s so well balanced.
It’s about 2 miles from here and it uses the same power to raise the lift as it takes to boil a kettle!
I watched it being built on the webcam (my children called me a saddo!) and it is a seriously impressive piece of engineering!
Still haven’t come round to look at it in the flesh. Still planning to.
Just let me know when your plans come to fruition!
Nice? Vulgar. Blair period.
My “Nice’ was in relation to the Canadian one…
Sol.
“…for my friend Priti Patel”
“I was thinking of somewhere hot and sunny for several weeks….”
“Go to Hell…”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell,_Norway
https://www.gotohellmi.com/
“I’m afraid I have to end this call now – I can feel the incoming tide lapping around my feet!”
But not sandy, presumably
Isis affiliate is prime suspect for Kabul airport suicide bomb. 26 August 2021.
The prime suspect for the suicide bombing at Kabul airport is the Islamic State affiliate in Afghanistan known as Islamic State Khorasan Province, Isis-K or ISKP.
They are making a song and dance about this on the MSM. The long lead in time from the first warnings and the accuracy of them suggests it is almost orchestrated. Boris and his pals have gone into huddle at COBRA. One wonders if it is not intended to provide a cover for a precipitate withdrawal. If so the guilty flee where no man pursueth. They could pull out now for all anyone in the Real World cares!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/26/isis-affiliate-iskp-is-prime-suspect-for-kabul-airport-suicide-bomb
At least 13 people dead. We can lay this at the feet of the gutless wonder Biden.
Nothing to the toll when the West has finally left with its tail between its legs and the Taliban and Associates get going on the natives.
I’m afraid you are right Bill. I wouldn’t be surprised if in a couple of years time if everyone that spoke English will be dead, murdered by these fanatics.
Afternoon Jonathan. It was Biden who first raised the spectre of these people the other day. A grouping hardly known outside Afghanistan. They then appear and the warnings are of such a nature that one might readily believe that the source of them is travelling with the bombers! One suspects connivance of some kind.
That has occurred to me too Araminta. And good afternoon to you too. It seems odd to me that this warning came from multiple sources and the response was to clear the gates. How convenient to make everyone disappear, don’t you think? “Well we managed to get all the people on the planes who were present at the airport, don’t you know.” Says Biden. Don’t bother to mention they all fled in fear of their lives. Another American triumph!
If we are speculating one might wonder if Boris and the Europeans had suggested staying on for a few days longer. This would make America and Joe look bad. Bomb attack! Sorted!
I don’t think Biden could look any worse than he does now. The man really is the lowest piece of scum. To quote Saint Obama again: “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f… things up.”
They are still Daesh!
https://twitter.com/ladbible/status/1430925778947092480
Obviously put up to it by the ginger one behind….
HORROR: Man Opens Fire, Kills Tourist Dining with Family in Miami Beach,
Dances Over Body
http://click1.e.westernjournalism.com/ezshzvjtlbvfzvhcftdrvfvrvdfdpwyjpjbqdhwrhbdtptr_tzcbzbwhvlklczpppbzww.html
Will there be riots in America over this killing? Somehow I doubt it.
A freedom fighter.
You know, I’m pro the second amendment having lived in the USA. But the way the Americans handle the use of guns is ludicrous. The pro gun lobby doesn’t help matters. No matter how many people are killed in a massacre they will still make excuses. The sort of excuses you make once you have dehumanized people and only see them as a problem because you are obsessed with the second amendment as if it were an ideology not to be criticised.
People always talk about the guns though, and never about what drugs, legal and illegal were involved.
My point is not so much that but anyone and his mother can get and use a gun in the USA. Frankly I don’t know how to solve the problem because the place is awash with guns. But at the least I would make it a mandatory death penalty if they were used in anything illegal.
Defending your family and home is one thing but that a lunatic high on drugs can gratuitously murder someone and, in effect, get away with it, is inexcusable. There should be no mitigating circumstance, no excuses about abuse as a child etc. etc .etc. They should be executed within weeks of committing the crime, not years.
But why is the war always declared on the gun and not on the drugs? Actually, I know the answer to that one; big cannabis spends a LOT of money to make sure that their product isn’t blamed.
There are drugs and drugs. Marijuana does not tend to make people go on a rampage. On the contrary, it makes them quite passive. I cannot recall a single killing that was done under the influence of Marijuana. It was not made illegal because it was dangerous but for racist and financial reasons by collusion between William Randolph Hearst and J Edger Hoover. But I’m not going to go into the history of that now. You are far more likely to get violence from a drunk rather than a pot head. By drugs I mean the sort that the deeply unpleasant Saint George Floyd of BLM was on which killed him and the sort of drugs that South American cartels send to the USA.
On this issue I think you should examine how many crazies who go on rampages have a long history of using Marijuana.
They might not be under its influence when they go killing but their brains have certainly been affected.
Long term use makes them first apathetic and then psychotic.
That’s my understanding.
I used to have to see the unemployables and do something to get them work-ready. Most of them were addicts. Several had short lives.
That is what the paid for media wants you to think, but it is not necessarily the whole truth.
https://attackersmokedcannabis.com/
I take your “evidence” with a grain of salt because 1 I lived in California for 40 years where everyone and their mother smokes the stuff. That includes all those boffins in Silicon Valley and at UC Berkeley as well as Joe Blow in the street.
The evidence you give points out that the perpetrators in your link did not do what they did due to Marijuana but to underlying causes such as psychosis. Such -people often use Marijuana to calm themselves.
2. As I said, I know the history concerning why Marijuana was made illegal and it had nothing at all to do with Marijuana being a dangerous drug. It was done for financial reasons on the part of William Randolph Hearst and, on the part of, J Edger Hoover, racism against Mexicans.
A commission was set up by Richard Nixon, who expected the report to become a justification for his draconian penalties against people that used it. The report came back with the news that Marijuana should be legalised because, essentially, it was harmless. The report was shelved because it was not to Tricky Dickies liking. If there is any evil to be had in the Marijuana debates it is on the part of people like Nixon who knew it was not a danger but continued to ruin thousands of lives for political reasons for years, when it was a totally irresponsible act done to pander to the electorate.
You are free to believe what you want on the matter.
Agreed – and the same here in UK but include rape with the death penalty. Obviously the rapist cannot control himself and, once released, will do it again, and again.
The problem with rape is that too many cases come down to “she said, he said” or they woke up next to the man and felt ashamed of being a slut, so claimed he raped them.
Which is the vic. and which is the perp? (Innocent face.)
https://twitter.com/True_Belle/status/1430933159064096771
Why does Khan think it necessary to house refugees in London, where housing costs are highest in UK? Surely nothing to do with extra Labour voters….
Virtue signalling – with other people’s money?
Send them to Scotland.
Send them to Pakistan or any other predominantly Muslim country.
Send them to China. That’s big enough
Extra caliphate voters?
Why (and how) do “refugees” get a vote?
Once they apply for citizenship, I’m told.
But that takes years…
Rumour has it that if you know the right people …
They khan help?
Wot? Boris Johnspoon and Priti Revolting?
He just sets out to be bloody-minded whatever the issue.
The man is nothing more nor less than an unthinking, ideologist who ALWAYS thinks his plan is best – but doesn’t say for whom.
Representing Nation of Islam on his CV gives us a clue.
“It is essential that refugees can establish a long-term future in the UK, be supported to learn English and skills that enable them to find employment.”
Why? They are refugees, so can go back home when they have sorted out their country.
Why do they need to learn English? They’re interpreters so they already have good English……….. or are they lying to us and they’re not interpreters after all?
Why should they bother, they are being given ours on a plate.
https://twitter.com/ShaneLevitt11/status/1430930401267261441
Don’t pee on Russia, it will cost you. 26 August 2021.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b528e4a33dc600bece93b3250caaed49140d30c61bedd882852b15a241d5d3ff.jpg
Norway’s dedicated law about the border with its eastern neighbor in the north is from 1950 and stipulates what citizens can do – and not do – in the near border areas. In §3, the law reads that no «offensive behavior along the border aimed at the neighboring state, or its authorities, are allowed.» Violations of this law can be punished with fines or jail for up to 3 months.
Someone doing a little stirring?
https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/borders/2021/08/dont-pee-russia-it-will-cost-you
Is someone taking the piss?
Why is it in English? Are Anglophones the only ones likely to do it?
Sadly, DT reporting that 4 American marines were killed in the Kabul attack. Is there no end to the misery from Afghanistan?
That’s a big change, initially reports were saying wounded.
I just checked and it is a bloodbath of epic proportions. No amount of gaslighting can possibly save Biden now.
Update (1246ET): At least 43 have been killed and 130 injured in Thursday’s dual blasts near the Kabul airport. According to NYT reporter Fahim Abed, 60% of the wounded are in critical condition.
My consolation is, that if it is a breakaway group, they are killing each other. And that the Taliban won’t mess about with trials/human rights/ appeals and prison sentences where the perpetrators are out in a few years, they will just blow their brains out.
I fear the explosions were organised by the Taliban to its own purposes. Whilst posing as a legitimate and organised government, needing IMF funds, it is not a good look if your own people wish to get the hell out of the country at all costs.
I believe the Taliban are trying to clear the Afghans (wishing to get out) away from the airport.
False flag then.
Definitely!
I fear the explosions were organised by the Taliban to its own purposes. Whilst posing as a legitimate and organised government, needing IMF funds, it is not a good look if your own people wish to get the hell out of the country at all costs.
I believe the Taliban are trying to clear the Afghans (wishing to get out) away from the airport.
Well, that’s Biden dead and buried…
I doubt it.
The Democrats will be cheering him on, the Republicans have been marginalised everywhere.
Hell’s teeth, look at the V-P. Can you see her in charge? Taiwan and Ukraine and all of the South China sea are in play. We’ve placed a very significant part of our diminished fleet in harms way. A pre-emptive strike and good-bye GB and possibly Australia and NZ with them.
The Deep State and its operatives in every single agency of government will simply heap lie upon lie in order to claim that Biden is a prophet doing his best in a situation ‘inherited’ from Trump.
Meanwhile the rest of the world looks on incredulously as the USA is brought to its knees by a bunch of globalist, greedy, self centred morons.
Nothing to worry about for the politicians responsible for this debacle of biblical proportions. The fix is already in viz. forced vaccinations and transportation to labour camps for the unvaccinated.
Edit: Apparently we are now told that the thousands of Americans left stranded in Afghanistan have only themselves to blame. They were supposedly warned about the potential and imminent collapse of the Afghan Army months ago.
Tell that to the Marines!
The two women cricket commentators currently on air at Headingley are gushing at top volume it is effing annoying!
That’s the great relief of not listening, Stephen.
I’ve turned the speaker off.
Wow that’s a really neat trick, how can we do it to any commentator?
Oh….
What will Biden’s revenge be? He promised there would be retribution if his soldiers were attacked.
sorry sos – my comment was for Dale below
He’ll continue printing dollars so that all their dollar holdings are destroyed by inflation.
I just check the scorecard on my iPhone. I occasionally stare at it for ten minutes. You know when a wicket has fallen or an appeal referred ‘upstairs’ when the score fails to update for five minutes or so.
Three. Add Alison ‘Drone’ Mitchell.
That’s me gone for this miserable, dreary, gale-blown day.
They SAY it will be sunny tomorrow – but that prediction (three in a row) has simply become a “Jam tomorrow” one.
Have a jolly evening plotting
A demain.
It was grey all day here yesterday – but warm and sunny today.
It was a dull, dreary start here, but then it brightened up and became warm and sunny. Had tea outside.
So Clive Myeri is still reading the News as well as presenting Mastermind. That will make his piggy-bank smile.
It is very strange that as an employee one can be paid more and more for presenting different programmes. Either they work for the BBC and get allocated tasks or they are fully independent.
In my time at work, if I was doing two jobs simultaneously, it made zero difference to my basic pay. I might have had a better bonus, but that was dependent on overall performance by my employers everywhere.
OT I’ve got another recipe for courgettes for you. I’m atm cooking it for supper tonight,
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2021/jul/19/rachel-roddy-recipe-courgette-potato-in-lemony-olive-oil
Although it looks tasty, why would I need a recipe for courgettes?
Are you confusing me with one of the others?
We do something similar, but as a cold dish. I’m afraid she immediately lost me when suggesting they should be stewed slowly for a long time, even in olive oil. They turn to mush on the inside.
Hmmm… I must be confusing you with another. I thought that last year you/they were wondering what to do with a glut of courgettes & I sent you/them a recipe, which was gratefully received.
Ah well…
I’m sure they appreciated the suggestions, I’m also fairly sure it wasn’t me, but I do get gluts most years.
This year being the exception where, apart from beans, most things have been unsuccessful.
Grow agave instead. At least you will be able to sell it to all the incomers.
I was surprised to see it is sold in a local fresh food supermarket and judging by the turnover it was selling well.
I’m sure it is only used for religious purposes.
Like just before their sacrements of torture, rape and murder.
Or sunrise rituals in the Phizzee household?
rats a toi?
One of my favourites, and it freezes brilliantly.
I would even recommend BT’s Trombetti as an alternative to courgettes because they hold their shape better.
Spot on.
It is probably a way of wasting more money paid under duress of the old folks.
I have an argument going on with medical staffing. One of our part time consultants wants to increase her hours to be able to see an extra ten – fifteen patients per week (and take home a grand or so extra per month). We have the funds to do this in the medical budget but I have asked for extra funds from the admin budget to increase the secretaries’/receptionists’ hours to cope with the extra work this will entail but have been told they just have to absorb the extra duties.
Bl**dy doctors.
IMHO that would be something to discuss with a union official. Estimate the productivity of the Admin staff over a 3 year period and
discover the average (or median, whatever) amount of paperwork time per patient per case. Bet that’s not easy.
You’re right, that would be difficult but also shouldn’t be necessary. If the doc wants to increase her pay by seeing more patients, it follows logically that this will mean more work for the secs.
If they had time to do this, that would mean they aren’t fully employed at the moment and I could give them other jobs to do to fill their time. Not the case.
I wasn’t convinced on his first MM outing. He rushed the questions, not pausing between giving the answer to one and asking the next. He also seemed very small, as though they had ordered too big a chair and desk for him.
I’m sure he’ll settle in to it.
Taking an early night – Good night and God bless to all NoTTLers, both vax and anti-vax.
Stark raving mad.
We deserve everything that’s coming for us. Societal breakdown and they’ll wonder why.
ARSEHOLES.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9929315/New-Harvard-chief-chaplain-atheist-ordained-humanist-rabbi.html
Johnson is insisting that evacuation flights will go ahead.
And when some of the splendid missiles/armaments that the USA has donated to the Taliban are used to bring down British planes, who will he blame and what will he do?
Boris will do what he normally does. He has nothing else.
Vote Democrat. We are getting bored with trashing our own cities. Let us trash yours.
Boris said when Biden became President what a breath of fresh air. Both are obviously mentally deficient. A curse on all of them.
And may the curse be particularly nasty and particularly effective.
A disease that slowly rots the body would be preferable.
But i think they are already working on that for us.
That’s similar to what I would wish on Tony Blair, a disease that leaves him in a vegetative state where he is in constant pain, knows exactly what is happening to him, but can’t do anything about it.
You have been researching this haven’t you !
The alternative is scaphism.
Look it up.
{:-((
Ooh, narsty!
Paid tens, if not hundreds of thousands a week, you would think he could afford high class hookers.
Bastard.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9929981/Man-City-star-Benjamin-Mendy-27-charged-four-counts-rape.html
People don’t rape for sex. They rape for power. (not remotely condoning it, merely stating the act).
When you’re paying for it, you’re not in control of it.
Good point.
He is, however, a b[word].
It’s a crime of violence, although labelled as a s*x crime.
Is this gullible me, or is it really game over?
https://rumble.com/vlod4c-wow-former-pfizer-employee-checkmate.-game-over.-we-win.html
I have been hearing rumours that all this will end in September.
It won’t. There is too much at stake for the politicians, “scientists”, big Pharma and the NWO to back down..
The media will carry on blatantly lying until the end, I’m sure.
There’s no evidence she does work for Pfizer.
There’s no proof she has any valid information.
The ‘Express/Mirror’ style of publicity is immature.
There is nothing to ‘win’. They’re getting paid by governments.
Karen Kingston is always very good value. Stew Peters asks good questions, but I don’t like his marketing hype, where he uses emotive language to push his point of view (even when I agree with it).
KK suggests that the wide range of vaxx side effects may indicate that the contents of the vaxxes are not consistent.
About 11 1/2 minutes, Karen Kingston points out that Pfizer has no marketing website for the vaxx, even though they got FDA approval a couple of days ago. She says this is not normal, and says that having a marketing website would open Pfizer up to lawsuits from bereaved families for marketing the vaxx. As it is, the marketing has been done by the government, the health authorities and the media.
She says Pfizer have two weeks to list all the ingredients now.
KK says that many of the “Covid breakthrough cases” suffered by vaccinated people are actually symptoms of vaccine damage.
She quotes another patent that describes the ingredients of the Pf and Mod vaxxes and shows the presence of graphene oxide.
She also says that the shedding mentioned in the testing protocol wasn’t just standard text.
The summary at 28 minutes is interesting.
Is it game over? Pfizer has already made billions. They were found guilty of all kinds of things in 2009, and still bounced back to make billions with this vaxx, having swept it all under the carpet, so I’d say they don’t care at this point. They’ve made their profit. Lawsuits are nothing new to them.
The lawsuits are just like a supermarket reducing the rest of the line and selling it at a loss after they’ve made enough money.
One thing that works to our advantage is that our enemies are fragmented. Big Phrarma just wants to make money. China may want to see us collapse, but they aren’t running the WEF and its agenda.
The billionaires’ club that wants us all slaves to a social credit system, and world population reduced may not be as much in control as they think they are.
The danger is that there will be lawsuits, even criminal prosecutions against the public players like Pfizer, maybe even Gates – leaving the Trilateral Commission to slip back into obsurity until their next attempt.
Plus they still have several more prongs on their pitchfork, climate change being the strongest one. We may slay the vaxx dragon only to see climate lockdowns and carbon passports about 5 minutes later.
Not clearing the swamp properly is our biggest danger. The public is so apathetic, even if there is a massive battle and we win it against vaxx passports, half of them will just say “I told you vaxx passports were never going to happen. Let’s trust good old Boris (or Rishi, or whichever stooge is next) to sort things out!”
Site looks a bit shonky to me PM
Slightly off topic but referring to Hat’s earlier post.
Are we really too much of an echo chamber, refusing to even acknowledge alternative viewpoints?
I think in most instances we debate reasonably and accept but argue against opposing positions. By and large personal abuse isn’t a weapon of choice ( I plead guilty at times) and compared with many of such sites I think Nottle is at the better end. But again, I’m biased.
It’s a shame when people depart, but equally I think if one can’t stand the heat…
I think we do acknowledge other views. It’s in our nature.
I also think our attitudes are grounded in experience and reasoning, so when a Guardianista rocks up they are wrong, but ideologically fixated, so they ‘go away’ because they will only overwhelmingly be proved daft and don’t like that.
I think so, but the last thing that Hat is, is a Guardianista. He’s certainly not daft.
Then… what was the problem? Did he just want an argument? Bit daft roc up to a like minded group just for a fight. Reminds me of the Python sketch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohDB5gbtaEQ
Not really in his nature in my experience, I’ve been debating with him for probably ten or more years on various blogs.
He believes passionately in certain things, vaccines against (I nearly wrote for) Covid for example, because the experience in Israel has been very positive. He’s very knowledgeable on ME matters, even if you don’t like his conclusions.
He certainly didn’t just rock up looking for an argument, he’s been on and off Nottle, in various guises, and has run numerous very interesting blogs.
An odd bod, but I like the guy even though I’ve never met him.
He is probably just feeling a bit emotionally fragile at the moment. Can happen to all of us. There are times when I don’t want to talk to anyone who is going to challenge me. Covid rules are putting all of us under low level but unrelenting stress.
Sadly, all too true.
Although in Hat’s case, he’s pretty robust!
I always miss all the fun
It wasn’t a fireworks row, merely Hat explaining why he was going into abeyance, I’m sure he will return.
I have pleaded guilty in the case of jonathanrackham and have apologised.
I make no excuses.
He’s another newish participant that I like, because he will put up posts that encourage debate and isn’t dogmatic about his opinion always being the only opinion.
I really don’t know how i got to the point i was at.
I became quite rude which is not my default position.
Must have said something horrid about chihuahuas
That would do it !
Here’s good news about Chihuahuas, Phizzee; they are, apparently, very healthy dogs and shouldn’t need too many trips to the vets.
Yup, just one trip should be enough!
I think jonathanrackham is dogmatic, but so am I 🙂
It goes with the INTJ personality.
Fence-sitters are the worst! Not too many of those around here!
Different views.
Agree re fences though!
I try to avoid restating the obvious to folk who have an alternative and entrenched view. I do object to being assigned the label “anti-vaxxer’. This is frankly abusive. My objection to the Covid sham is based upon my own research and the mounting evidence that the ‘vaccines’ are experimental gene therapies.
Having designed a number of buildings at The Babraham Institute, including a Immunology and Signalling Laboratory, I recognise the need for animal testing in formulating and testing drug therapies. No animal testing studies have been carried out in testing of the current experimental jabs.
My old boss the late Sir William Whitfield advised me never to stomp out of a meeting when in disagreement with those attacking me because in his words: “then they have won”. This maxim was simplified as “don’t get mad, get even”.
It is a shame because I like Hat’s commentaries and very much enjoy his musical postings.
The term “anti-vaxxer” has changed its meaning, and become a lot more respectable recently. It’s not the smear it used to be.
I retaliate by referring to the experimental jab as a “vaxx.”
I agree but the claims made for the heavily promoted jabs where Pfizer is now the prominent choice of governments (market forces eh?) are patently false. Their jabs, billions of which have not yet been injected, are not authorised by the FDA. Pfizer have simply been granted Emergency Use Authorisation for their next vaccine, the same as the old vaccine, but marketed under a different name.
The point many miss is that the new EUA for the renamed ‘vaccine’ removes the blanket immunity from prosecution or indemnity following harm or adverse reactions in recipients presently allowed for the current Covid-19 jab.
This is not an immediate problem for Pfizer as their old Covid -19 stocks are huge so they are still enabled to dispense poison at will and take in more billions.
We are dealing with fraudsters at every level of government worldwide, the entire medical establishment, and most of the agencies we previously understood were set up to protect us.
See my comment on the Stew Peters / Karen Kingston video above. …I agree with what you say.
I try to avoid restating the obvious to folk who have an alternative and entrenched view. I do object to being assigned the label “anti-vaxxer’. This is frankly abusive. My objection to the Covid sham is based upon my own research and the mounting evidence that the ‘vaccines’ are experimental gene therapies.
Having designed a number of buildings at The Babraham Institute, including a Immunology and Signalling Laboratory, I recognise the need for animal testing in formulating and testing drug therapies. No animal testing studies have been carried out in testing of the current experimental jabs.
My old boss the late Sir William Whitfield advised me never to stomp out of a meeting when in disagreement with those attacking me because in his words: “then they have won”. This maxim was simplified as “don’t get mad, get even”.
It is a shame because I like Hat’s commentaries and very much enjoy his musical postings.
Compared with Twitter debate, here is very moderate and er, refined.
I agree with your last sentence, if there is something said one does not like and to which one does not wish to reply without causing offence, then scroll on down.
There are not many people around where I live who share my views, in fact none at all, I seem to be the only unvaxxed in the village, indeed for miles around. I feel like a Royalist amongst a milieu of Roundheads. In East Anglia, I suppose I am. I cannot change my anti-vax stance, I recall too much information and conversation over several decades. I will be true to myself.
As BT might say KBO…
It is all one can do.
That is why I avoid Twitt like the plague!
TCW gets very close to it at times and can be profoundly depressing.
The militant pro-vaxxers seem to have gone on their hols at the moment…long may that last! We did put up some quite robust opposition, perhaps they weren’t used to that.
There are some late night visitors where comments are anything but moderate or refined, no point arguing with them – scroll down.
I think a lot of pro-vaxxers have kept quiet. But it is a very nasty debate on other fora, and I myself didn’t want to attract the attention of the pro-vaxxers on TCW at one point, as they were so unpleasant.
Many of us are used to being in the minority. But people who are more mainstream or centrist in their views perhaps aren’t used to it, so they feel it more?
There are other issues on which I am in the minority on this site, which I do mention occasionally, but don’t usually want to get into a slanging match.
It may have escaped your notice (I doubt it!) but I have a fairly thick skin and will debate with, attack and defend any poster here, even if I disagree with what they saying, if they are being treated unreasonably.
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Just try questioning how the great democrat deception has been carried out. Yes there is a lot of repetition of what would be called far right misinformation in many circles.
There are many here that are good at heart, they keep the site going. I just keep quiet about different opinions
A week is a long time in politics.
https://abc7chicago.com/biden-afghanistan-speech-today-press-conference-when-is-speaking/10964076/
Well Joe, what will you say to the families of your dead servicemen, you senile bastard?
‘Dead or in pieces’.
In a body bag.
Evening, all. The reaction to Covid has killed more people than the disease. Meanwhile, murder and mayhem are on the way to Shropshire: https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/local-hubs/south-shropshire/2021/08/26/talks-held-to-find-more-shropshire-homes-for-fleeing-afghan-refugees-as-funding-call-is-made/
We don’t want them; they are inimical to our way of life and won’t be grateful. I’d email the woman to tell her what to do with them, but I live in Shropshire and chances are I’d have the billeting officer round to force me to house some for my “hate crime” of telling the truth.
They’ll be off to the bright lights of Manchester, Birmingham and London before they’ve switched the lights on, Conway. That is why we’re having 240 houses built on the old cement works brownfield site (highly desirable) just up the road. For the White flight, to make room for the incomers.
And 1,000 homes planned for this village , it was originally 450 , then earlier in the year increased to 750, and now consulting on 1,000. The fields here are arable , sweet smelling sometimes, the sound of the sheep in the Autumn , and the bleating of the new lambs in January ..
Dorset Council wants to build 30,000 in the county , yet they also have a daft climate change scheme.
Same around Spalding. Last time we were there, the papers were going on about the housing plan where they would build thousands of houses on prime agricultural land. Never mind that they manage to grow several crops each year, and that produce will be lost, the land is so low that it may as well be below sea level – disaster calls with the feared climate disaster..
Here’s some Puccini on this rather grim day of man hammering nails in man….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHqs4U27AH0
https://order-order.com/2021/08/26/barnier-to-announce-french-presidential-candidacy-this-evening/
Not sure what’s more surprising: that a Eurocrat is going back to domestic politics or that his party is centre right!
Probably been fired for failing to stop Brexit – he often sounded desperate.
The frogs have as little choice in their elections as we enjoy in the UK. It is the choice between a large heap of dung and an equivalent heap of dung but with a coating of glitter.
Although she’s left-wing, I’d love to see Marine Le Pen rub their filthy noses in it.
The number of migrants trying to cross the Channel to reach England will get “much worse”, according to a retired senior Border Force official.
More than 10,000 made the journey in the first six months of 2021, while a record 828 migrants were intercepted on Saturday.
Kevin Saunders, the chief immigration officer for Border Force for 16 years, said: “It’s going to get much worse until bad weather hits the Channel – which is possibly the end of September – you are going to see more and more migrants coming across.”
https://news.sky.com/story/migrant-crisis-numbers-trying-to-cross-english-channel-will-get-much-worse-says-ex-border-force-boss-12390453
It’s going to keep getting worse until they are taken back to France, permanently.
While they’re allowed to land they will keep travelling here. We either shoot them on the beach or the border force do their job and protect our borders.
Yo T_B
while a record 828 migrants were intercepted on Saturday.
I beg to differ
None of these Channel Crossers have been intercepted
verb
verb: intercept; 3rd person present: intercepts; past tense: intercepted; past participle: intercepted; gerund or present participle: intercepting
/ˌɪntəˈsɛpt/
obstruct (someone or something) so as to prevent them from continuing to a destination.
The have all been escorted
Evening OLT
Semantics , semantics all over again .
They landed .
If they had been “intercepted”, they would not have landed
I don’t care what antics they’re up to.
Sem old sem old….
They were given assistance to arrive in the UK on directions from the Home Office.
If you thought the Covid nonsense was not a government supported con designed to push us into submission to an authoritarian government then you had better understand that the importation of potentially violent aliens is a deliberate policy of our globalist government. It is intended to further weaken our resolve to remain a nation state.
Well done Kev.. We have worked that one out for ourselves and we had none of your expertise.
Did you while in were in the job not notice them swarming over the Med? Increasing by a factor of 10 every year? Right up to T.May signing the UN migration pact.
Now we fly them in quietly.
I hope for your sake you don’t have any daughters.
https://twitter.com/american_ka/status/1430985063735377920?s=20
Republicans say Biden has more ‘blood on his hands’ and urge him to respond with FORCE and take back Bagram base after suicide attack at Kabul airport that ‘killed 60’ – including 12 US troops
A suicide bomber believed to be associated with ISIS-K blew himself up outside the Kabul airport Thursday killing at least 13, including children and US Marines
A second explosion has been reported
The State Department has warned Americans to get away from the area
Republicans are demanding ‘resignations’ and saying Biden’s ‘aloof’ response puts ‘blood on his hands’
By MORGAN PHILLIPS, POLITICS REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 18:22, 26 August 2021 | UPDATED: 21:26, 26 August
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9930015/Lindsey-Graham-tells-Biden-Bagram-Kabul-suicide-attack.html?ito=push-notification&ci=SB5EDb-9yS&si=26738248&ai=9930015
According to some 4 Star General US defence spokesman “the Taliban are in control of Kabul”.
The two explosions are Taliban false flags. They are intended to scare Afghans into vacating the airport. It is bad optics for tens of thousands of Afghans to be seen lining up to leave the country in order to avoid submission to the Taliban at all costs.
There is no reasoning in pointing to Biden’s supposedly ‘aloof’ response. He may be perceived as ‘aloof’ but in reality is a shameful hollowed out wreck of a human being. Years of graft, lying, brutish bullying and plagiarism had caught up with the bastard years ago but seemingly nobody noticed until now. Even now some MSM, especially American press and broadcasters (plus Facebook, Twitter and Google etc.,) and our very own BBC remain blind to the reality.
https://twitter.com/tomstocktontees/status/1430989327409074176
No problem. Biden has promised to wipe them all out, presumably by very precise bombing that can differentiate terrorists from civilians…
POTUS vows to hunt down a suicide bomber. He might be partly successful.
He’ll need a brush & dust pan.
Britons could be fined £2,500 by computer under plans to move justice online
Ministers propose that people accused of minor crimes should be able to indicate plea online with option to have punishment decided+
A Bill laid in Parliament just before the recess paves the way for online convictions to be widened so that they could include offences such
as fare evasion, TV licence fee non-payment, breaches of Covid rules, careless driving and failing to send a child to school, which carry fines of up to £2,500.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/08/26/britons-could-fined-2500-computer-plans-move-justice-online/
The inclusion of ‘breeches of Covid rules’ implies they are here to stay ad infinitum……
Forever and into eternity. Unless we do something about it.
As the whole political system is corrupted, that means a complete change. At this point, I would welcome a military coup – and that includes the WEF members at Buckingham Palace!
mng bb2, starting with these https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5b30e9982520e11a18c1124122357c24775bd27e2197c4a38a10101b347b8beb.jpg
I like having a monarchy, because it helps keep the country stable. But I draw the line at one whose loyalty is to other billionaires and not to our country!
Breeches of Covid? Like “Bridge of Don”? Ownership of trousers…?
Absolutely no way. If you think I’ve transgressed, I want my day in court.
Welcome to digital dystopia. Of course the ‘important’ people will not have to worry.
Good night all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anQlB3-PQZ4
Goodnight everyone , the moon is bright tonight .
Sleep well x
One of my weepies. There are about a half a dozen or more tunes that get me in tears each time I hear them, overwhelmed am I by the beauty of the music. Other weepie composers include Elgar (Angel’s Farewell), Sullivan (The Sun Whose Rays are all Ablaze) and Quilter (Weep Ye no More). The traditional Welsh song David of the White Rock is another.
More recent composers who run them close include Brian May’s tribute to his friend Freddie Mercury in the last song ‘Mother Love’ they sang together (Brian May sang the last verse when Freddie was too sick to continue), and Cinderella’s tearful response (If Only You Cared for Me) in Alma Deutscher’s childhood opera during the brutal duet with the Stepmother.
Goodnight, everyone.
Goodnight.
Having had a busy couple of days, and only just now coming here and scrolling down some of the days comments, have to say I am sorry to see Elf & Safety has decided to take a break from the Nottlers, I shall miss his selections of jazz as well as his erudite comments. Hope we shall see him back sometime.
Yes, I heartily concur about Hat, jillthelass.
Mng all, pole sana viz another power outage here. Unherd – Never trust a scientist https://unherd.com/2021/08/never-trust-a-scientist/?tl_inbound=1&tl_groups%5B0%5D=18743&tl_period_type=3&mc_cid=3b1d23cdc2&mc_eid=f8bf59e7dc can’t disagree with one BTL posted – “Yeah, “follow the science”, indeed. I’ve spent the last eighteenth months fighting off the urge to smack every smug, self-satisfied halfwit who goes around mouthing this mantra and simply refuses to get that “science” is not some living, tangible demigod that exists separately from the people who practise it”
Off Grauniad re Afghan and hidden Opoid detail https://off-guardian.org/2021/08/26/the-war-in-afghanistan-the-real-crime-of-the-century-behind-the-opioid-crisis/ Nottlers won’t take long to draw their own conclusions
Fields of white poppies are grown in the fields around here , the scent is beautiful , the sight of them is glorious.
They are grown for medicinal purposes .
Many people suffer from extreme pain for one reason or another , et it takes ages to get an appontment with the pain clinic to receive an injection to eleviate their pain .
People can become addicted to pain killers .
If the Afghans are growing poppies to aid the opiod trade, clearly the price is too high , so perhaps if everyone grew poppies for the relief of pain , the Afghans would then grow something else , food!
I see Pfizer CEO’s trying to bump gums https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7a6f90afaf1d950654be944e913b5d98e9607633f44141eb7ab069a65bddb2cc.png and failing miserably https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ea3823173066288bc5cc9356c5eac097fcc5f223f3eef149eb89d71af37f737a.jpg probably never sussed the truth https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8495235dfdf0ce7f45add1f831155caf6f17d4df252cd5adffd2814466903778.png
Good morning all – Friday’s new page is here.
mng, thanks geoff, TGIF and all that