Friday 3 September: Working from home is simply not working, least of all for the customer

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  4. Functioning mobile needed for shopping online

    SIR – Dr Penelope Upton (Letters, August 31) highlights the problem of receiving authentication codes by messages to mobile phones as part of a two-factor verification system to buy goods online.

    The revised Payment Services Directive banking security system assumes everyone has a mobile and network coverage. Mobile black spots are one flaw in the system; my hearing problem is another.

    As I cannot hear the caller on a mobile, I have at home a landline with a built-in amplifier that boosts the caller’s voice. Why should anyone have to buy and pay for an otherwise useless mobile just to access internet banking?

    Richard Holroyd
    Cambridge

    SIR – In 2017 the Financial Conduct Authority guidance on payment services specifically said that not all customers will have mobile phones or a reliable signal, so payment service providers must have a means to authenticate them in these situations.

    When will the Government ensure that this guidance is being followed?

    Edward Mynors
    Walderton, West Sussex

    SIR – Waitrose can, it seems, no longer send a verification code by email, so it is investigating other methods for customers who do not have mobile phones. Apple has sent me an oral code via my landline, but Waitrose has decided that this method is not secure.

    In the meantime, if a code is required, my husband – as premier cardholder – has to phone the store to answer security questions. So not only am I punished for not having a mobile, I am also seen as a non-person in the eyes of the company, despite doing the online shopping.

    Dr Daphne Pearson
    Redbrook, Gloucestershire

    The Payment Services Directive is an EU measure…

  7. On topic:
    I am a public servant in a research and investigation role. 90% of my job can be done from my laptop on my dining room table without the cost of travel to myself nor necessary the cost of maintaining the employer’s estate at taxpayers’ expense.
    What is done with the surplus of buildings will be interesting because it may mean a reduction in the value of property – and that is the last thing our two-home jobsworths in Westiminster would want.
    It could also mean a lot of negative equity among ordinary people and the realisation that many non-mortgage loans are not properly backed.
    Maybe someone with a better financial head would comment.

  8. On topic:
    I am a public servant in a research and investigation role. 90% of my job can be done from my laptop on my dining room table without the cost of travel to myself nor necessary the cost of maintaining the employer’s estate at taxpayers’ expense.
    What is done with the surplus of buildings will be interesting because it may mean a reduction in the value of property – and that is the last thing our two-home jobsworths in Westiminster would want.
    It could also mean a lot of negative equity among ordinary people and the realisation that many non-mortgage loans are not properly backed.
    Maybe someone with a better financial head would comment.

  9. Good Morning Folks.

    We have a Trump start to the day here, bright and sunny, perfect golf weather.

  10. Noticing a lot of remainer I told you so’s coming out of the woodwork, obviously they haven’t had a fake pandemic where they live.

  11. Morning, all Y’all.
    Beautiful day, and after a sunny night it was cold enough for the floor heaters on thermostats (bathrooms) to have come on.
    Nothing beats a warm tiled bathroom floor! That is just pure luxury, so it is. And it dries the place out quicker than you can wet it!
    🙂

  13. Terror attack in Auckland. 6 people killed in a supermarket by a person being closely supervised by the authorities. He was a Sri Lankan. He was shot dead by the police. It is regarded, not as a faith attack but the act of an individual. The terror spreads into every corner of the world.

    1. Shocking.

      Jacinda Ardern is a World Economic Forum Young Global Leader like David Cameron and Emmanuel Macron.

      That means the World Economic Forum rules New Zealand, Great Britain and France through proxies.

      1. Morning molamolaI – I was wrong. I must have misheard the news. I was puzzled how he managed to kill 6 people in 60 seconds. Thanks for correcting me.

  14. Mail to a Con MP’s blog… rejected… who wrote today about Mr Brown….

    Mr Gordon Brown!

    Architect of Nu Labor, right hand man of financial criminal, Tony Blair, and central to the financial conspiracy with George Soros who substantially benefited from the sale of 750 UK state buildings at way below value in 2000. Loaded up with twenty year leaseback contracts to enhance the capital value for the benefit of Mr Soros’ consortium which bought them!

    Architect of the UK’s gold sale in 1999 at the lowest possible price probably to benefit Mr Soros shorting the gold market armed with sensitive inside information.

    Co-architect of the 31% sale of QinetiQ in 2002/3 to Carlyle employing, just by purely random coincidence, John Major as “European Chairman” and, purely by further random coincidence, none other than George Soros as the star client with $100,000,000 invested from 1994 which he probably won from John Major in 1992! Loaded up with a $7.5 billion contract on the day of sale through a tax haven where by special agreement control passed, very unusually, to the minority stock holders, Carlyle, which in practice probably meant Mr Soros! I wonder what happened to the $7.5 billion? Was it ever seen again?

    Mr Gordon Brown was personally congratulated by George Soros for solving the financial crisis of 2008.

    Very surprisingly, Mr Gordon Brown completely forgot to write about George Soros in his memoirs!

    I wonder why not?

    Do you know, Mr Redwood, why Mr Gordon Brown forgot all about Nu Labor’s very special friend, Mr George Soros in his memoirs?

    Polly

    1. Polly, I am no longer surprised John Redwood doesn’t answer you – I am only surprised that he hasn’t strangled you yet!

  15. The England team took the knee at last night’s game in Hungary and had to suffer boos throughout the game which they won 4-0.
    The manager should have had more sense as the hosts were anti BLM . Now the team is taking the matter to the football authorities as being a racist attack.
    Southgate should have had the sense to forbid the team to take the knee as it was evident that the Hungarians wouldn’t accept the taking of the knee. Southgate was being deliberately provocative and must accept the consequences.

      1. Good morning T-B -The air is nice, fresh and healthy as always up here. The England team have a lot of work to do, 53 for 3 with Joe Root out.
        Rishi Sunak , my MP, is trying to work out how to extract more money from our pockets without endangering the extremely rich, I think we are in for a battering. The outlook is bleak.

      2. But the England team still wore those ridiculous shirts with woke messages before start of play, while a hectoring voice over the loudspeakers harangued spectators. I am mightily sick of all this nonsense. Just play up, play up and play the game (this applies to all other sports as well).

    2. Southgate was asked whether last night’s abuse shows why his side have continued to perform the anti-racism gesture.

      “They recognise the world is changing,” he said. “Although some people are stuck in their way of thinking and prejudices, they are going to be the dinosaurs in the end. The world is modernising. Hungary isn’t anywhere near as diverse as our population. It’s taken us a long time to get to where we need to get to. We’ll continue to try to set the right example for young people in our country.”

      Saint Gareth and his disciples speak!

      2. “We leverage policy, legislation and political influence and build strong relationships with officials, politicians, NGOs and other actors”.

        I wonder.. ?

      3. Slightly on that theme, Moh has always enjoyed the BBC prog A Question of Sport , and has now declared the new version is a load of rubbish and totally dumbed downto such a vacant diverse level .. what worked , no longer does .

        The BBC are force feeding us all diiversity , and man many bods are sick and tired of it. The BBC appear to be broadcasting to a different country .. which seems to be inner city based .

        1. I have always liked Sue Barker – a girl from Devon who won the French Open, Tuffers and Matt Dawson.

      4. ‘Hungary isn’t anywhere near as diverse as our population’.

        They also don’t have as many groomed and raped children. Or a stabbing frenzy.

    3. Indeed. The BBC is spinning it as a racist provocation by the Hungarians, when the action of genuflecting to a dead American gangster purely because he is black and making a brazen political statement in favour of those who wish to destroy the culture of those they perceive as “white” is a racist provocation by the English.

      The English were roundly booed by the Hungarians for their racism. I wish the BBC could look beyond their agendas and report the news truthfully.

    4. I think the government wants to carry on with this provocation in order to keep the population fighting each other while digital ids are introduced.
      It’s all part of the psychological warfare against us.

    5. He really is a complete clod! He was warned what would happen but went ahead, anyway.
      Why can these morons never admit to being in the wrong?
      Same as the cretinous Defra bunch, and Prof Ferguson!

      1. The Hungarians are not racists. They are anti-Communist/Marxist. They, unlike the BBC remember.

        Good morning.

  16. Whatever Turns You On

    Twelve monks were about to be ordained. The final test was for them to line up, nude, in a garden while a nude model danced before them. Each monk had a small bell attached to his privates, and they were told that anyone whose bell rang would not be ordained because he had not reached a state of purity.

    The model danced before the first monk candidate, with no reaction. She proceeded down the line with the same response, until she got to the final monk. As she danced, his bell rang so loudly it fell off and clattered to the ground. Embarrassed, he bent over to pick up the bell…

    …and all the other bells went off!

  18. Duke of Cambridge intervened to get Afghan family out of Kabul. 2 August 2021.

    Prince William, 39, heard about the plight of the former cadet, who was struggling to secure the group’s safe passage out of the country as it fell to the Taliban, and asked his equerry, Naval officer Rob Dixon, to make some calls on his behalf.

    The Afghan officer had been integral to the British military operation in Afghanistan and had been working closely with British troops. His position meant his family group of more than 10, comprising several women and children, would have been particularly vulnerable.

    Major Andrew Fox, a former paratrooper who served three tours in Afghanistan and has been helping to evacuate interpreters, praised the Duke’s actions and said he had heard “countless” stories of officers on the ground smuggling people through the gates that they knew from Sandhurst.

    “It’s fully in line with what we get taught in the Army in terms of values, loyalty, respect for others, all that good stuff. We’re trained to help where we can.

    Ahh. It’s good to see that the Old Boys Network is still with us. I’m sure that the people they jumped in the queue felt much the same.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/09/02/duke-cambridge-intervened-get-afghan-family-kabul/

    1. Completely unimpressed by this “news” which coincidentally happened the day after the Sussexes’ latest midge bites. William’s a WEF shill like his father and grandfather. Whatever happens, their family will stay on top. I’ve gone right off the Windsors.

    2. The Afghan officer had been integral to the British military operation in Afghanistan and had been working closely with British troops. His position meant his family group of more than 10, comprising several women and children, would have been particularly vulnerable.

      I guess the Royal family has all the space in the world to accommodate their pals .

      Morning Minty.

      1. Morning Belle. One supposes that he and his offspring will jump to the head of the Palace Housing List as well!

    3. No doubt the Duchess of Minge Whinge will complain that the smuggled family were not black enough. And her Doormat will nod in agreement.

  19. Good morning from a dull and slightly drizzly Derbyshire. Still 10°C in the yard, but it feels cooler.

  20. Morning all

    SIR – Anyone under the misapprehension that working from home is a viable alternative to working in the employer’s premises has clearly not had cause to try to contact any government department, financial institution or commercial organisation.

    Apart from the obligatory recorded message advising that they are “receiving more calls than usual”, the quality of the connection once one finally gets through, and the delay while the agent gets an answer (probably having to phone a friend), add to the frustration.

    The sooner employers wake up to this, the better life will be for us all.

    David Sleath

    Dunstable, Bedfordshire

    SIR – For how much longer can the volume of calls be “unprecedented”?

    Janet Rennison

    Bowdon, Cheshire

    SIR – The announcement that Treasury staff will work from home is bad news. American financial houses in Britain are insisting that workers come back because they know that communication between staff is vital for efficiency.

    Of course, technology allows many boring functions to be done online and electronic filing has replaced paper. But, having had two letters from HM Revenue and Customs telling me to sign up to Making Tax Digital, I have just tried to file for August and the system does not allow me in. I would like to speak to someone, but that is not possible.

    When I set up my business in 1994, I had a nice letter from a person. Now there is no one, not even at home.

    Sir James Pickthorn Bt

    London SW6

    SIR – Working from home raises questions regarding the responsibilities and liabilities of employer and employee.

    Under the Health and Safety Act 1974, employers, organisations and the Government are required to ensure that the risks to the health, safety and welfare of people affected by their activities are reduced to as low as reasonably practicable.

    Employers, for example, have to provide suitable desks and chairs for using laptop or desktop computers. Using a kitchen table, with a kitchen chair or a bed to sit on, is not acceptable.

    For the employee, interpersonal contact in the office promotes problem-solving, communication and the generation of ideas. It reduces isolation.

    If the business is using the employee’s space, heat and light, how is this to be paid for? How will the employer prevent moonlighting with company equipment and information?

    Is the employee fully insured when working at home? Does working from home affect rental terms or the conditions of a lease?

    These are some of the points that must be considered before embracing home working as the “new norm”.

    Nicholas Watkis

    Gloucester

    1. What I want to know is, when are they receiving the usual number of calls? And when do they receive fewer than usual? Midnight on 24th December?

  21. 338420+ up ticks,
    Morning Each,

    Dt,
    There isn’t a case for mass ‘booster’ jabs
    Vaccines have already brought protection to those who needed it. Now we must build natural immunity to this endemic disease

    To my way of thinking continuing the increasing jab campaign has now taken on the mantle of the herd manipulating cattle prod, nothing more.

    1. The idea that individuals are valuable and have the same worth is only found in a few religions in the world. I doubt any of the elite pushing the current takeover belong to one of those religions.

      Christianity regards humans as equal in the sight of God.
      Islam regards muslims as having more status than non muslims, so the principle does not hold for them.
      Does anyone know what Buddhism and Hinduism have to say on this matter? ( I believe they are the same as Christianity on this)
      Marxism and Technocracy, as applied in China and North Korea certainly don’t regard individuals as important.

      1. 338420+ up ticks,
        Morning BB2,
        “certainly don’t regard individuals as important”

        That certainly applies to the current crop of politico’s,
        in the main treacherous twatology card carriers working to a not so covert agenda.

      2. Does anyone know what Buddhism and Hinduism have to say on this matter?

        Equality is a cardinal principle of Buddhism. Hinduism with its caste system has the blessing of all those who are not Untouchables!

  22. SIR – Those who took part in the Afghan evacuations of Operation Pitting will not be awarded medals as they did not serve for 30 days.

    This is not the first time that civil servants have put forward petty reasons for denying medals. On October 11 1967, HMS Albion arrived at Aden’s inner harbour and remained in the area until the final withdrawal on November 29. She supported 42 Commando ashore, enabled 7,144 sorties by 848 Naval Air Squadron and supplied 2,368,528lbs of stores.

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    Prior to the final withdrawal she also took over the medical services. Then, on the last day, she took on board all the remaining troops and transported them to Singapore. I still have a picture of the last British serviceman landing on the flight deck. Those of us in Albion did not receive the General Service Medal with South Arabia bar, as we did not serve ashore.

    It took 50 years to honour those involved in the Arctic convoys of the Second World War. I hope it does not take this long to honour those who went, once again, to Afghanistan.

    Derrick G Smith

    Bexhill-on-Sea, East Sussex

    SIR – Britain has never awarded service personnel medals for defeats.

    There were no official medals issued after Dunkirk and no medals for the 1,600 sailors (including my grandfather) who drowned when HMS Monmouth and HMS Good Hope were lost in the Battle of Coronel in 1914.

    The RAF has done exactly what taxpayers have paid for it to do.

    Mike Critchley

    Gosport, Hampshire

  23. Priority post

    SIR – Christopher Lucy (Letters, September 1) asks why anyone would send post first class. As a retired postman of 23 years’ service, I can tell him that first-class mail is given “priority” by being processed as it arrives in sorting offices, normally from 2pm until dispatch at 10pm for delivery the following day.

    Second-class mail is then sorted and dispatched from 10pm onwards and distributed the following afternoon for delivery the next day but one.

    In both services, business post is given priority over other mail.

    That is how it is supposed to work, although there is the odd hiccup. I would, for example, advise Mr Lucy to send post second class in the run-up to Christmas, as the volume of first-class mail means that it cannot always be dispatched on time, despite the staff’s Herculean efforts. Therefore the lighter second-class traffic often clears faster.

    Kevin Melville

    Dalgety Bay, Fife

      1. I can remember a rat atat tat on the front door when I was a child, when parents had a house in Surrey , and home on leave ..

        The GPO chap presented my mother with a hessian sack , and inside was a brace of grouse which had been dispatched overnight from my Aunt in North Yorkshire , after a successful days shooting on the moors!

  24. Priority post

    SIR – Christopher Lucy (Letters, September 1) asks why anyone would send post first class. As a retired postman of 23 years’ service, I can tell him that first-class mail is given “priority” by being processed as it arrives in sorting offices, normally from 2pm until dispatch at 10pm for delivery the following day.

    Second-class mail is then sorted and dispatched from 10pm onwards and distributed the following afternoon for delivery the next day but one.

    In both services, business post is given priority over other mail.

    That is how it is supposed to work, although there is the odd hiccup. I would, for example, advise Mr Lucy to send post second class in the run-up to Christmas, as the volume of first-class mail means that it cannot always be dispatched on time, despite the staff’s Herculean efforts. Therefore the lighter second-class traffic often clears faster.

    Kevin Melville

    Dalgety Bay, Fife

  25. Morning again

    NHS patient care

    SIR – Chris Hopson, the CEO of NHS Providers, is reported as saying: “The NHS has consistently demonstrated that, when it is properly funded, it delivers for patients and the nation.”

    Could he remind us exactly when that was?

    N W Bainbridge

    Peterborough

    SIR – As a regular reader of the Letters page, I am now convinced that there must be a parallel planet Earth inhabited solely by members of the British Medical Association and the Royal College of GPs.

    I wonder if its orbit will ever again approach our planet?

    Michael Keene

    Winchester, Hampshire

  26. 82 years ago today – at 11 am: “Consequently, this country is at war with Germany”.

    So – nothing’s changed, then.

  27. SIR – Anthony Weaver (Letters, September 1) wonders where all the dog kennels have gone.

    I recently asked a friend whether his dog slept in a kennel or in the house. He looked astonished by the question and said: “I’m married to an Irish girl, so the only real question is ‘On or in the bed’?”

    Nicholas Franks

    Toller Porcorum, Dorset

  28. New Zealand supermarket stabbings a ‘terrorist’ attack, says Ardern. 3 September 2021.

    “A violent extremist undertook a terrorist attack on innocent New Zealanders,” Ms Ardern told a briefing.

    The attacker was a Sri Lankan national who had been in New Zealand for 10 years and had been a “person of interest” for about five years, she said.

    The man was killed within 60 seconds of beginning the attack, she said, adding that he had been inspired by the Islamic State militant group.

    “It was hateful, it was wrong. It was carried out by an individual, not a faith,” Ms Ardern said. “He alone carries the responsibility for these acts.”

    Of course not! It’s just an unfortunate coincidence that he’s a Muslim!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/09/03/new-zealand-prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-says-mall-stabbing/

          2. A fairly ‘woke ‘ NZ friend on Fb is incensed by this incident and holds St Jacinda responsible for the man not having been deported years ago as he was obviously a threat to people.

    2. The individual was however inspired by the Islamic State and that is a conviction which is criminal.

      1. He shouldn’t have been allowed in in the first place.
        Maybe he was a halal slaughter man, so NZ sheep carcasses are acceptable world wide.

    4. Is it not high time that Justin Welby set up the CoE Vigilante Terrorist Squad committed to killing 5 Muslims at random for each person killed by a Muslim terrorist? I suppose our health minister, Squalid Jawdrop, would need to employ extra bodyguards

  29. In the actual letters page, there is a photo of Estonian (or similar) ladies, dancing. In their national costume.

    What would an Englishwoman’s national costume look like?

    1. We don’t have one. It’s a great shame.
      It would be good to introduce something like the Bavarian one for wearing at beer festivals. I’m not going to post pictures, as I do not wish to be responsible for side effects on some readers.

      2. I suspect the reason we don’t have a national costume for England is that we didn’t persist in keeping peasantry for as long as the continentals.

    3. Years ago everywoman wore a hat, had matching handbag and shoes , and a pair of gloves !

      Things are different now … Moh and I were so shocked to see partially clothed women of all sizes , and men , when we were in Weymouth the other day, the majoriity of the bodies had tattoos, even women with pretty bodies had body graffiti, wearing very skimpy clothing .

      So I would say the national costume is dictated by tattoos , and not by some fashion house !

      1. The prettier the girl the more foul it is for her to have body graffiti defacing her body.

        However, if, say, Diane Abbott and Miriam Margolyes covered themselves from head to toe in tattoos it might be considered an improvement. Any other suggestions from Nottlers as to whose appearance might be improved by extensive body graffiti?

      2. Our cleaner is not a high earner and is constantly juggling her finances to support a less than dynamic other half plus a useless daughter who has 3 by-blows.
        She has just treated herself to a tattoo. One part of me understands the desire to spend some money on herself; the other half thinks of the cost and general trashiness and wonders about the choice.

      2. Every day is National Laugh At White Working Class People day in the Daily Mail. They’d never dare show similar pictures of black or Asian girls.

  30. Pakistan received 10000 people from Afghanistan yesterday. They have no room for them. What will they do? BBC News

    1. 338420+ up ticks,

      O2O,

      The politico’s are pushing this ” welcome” so hard there is a dire danger they will burn, as we know it, the homestead down, or maybe that is their true intentions.

    2. Typical, money and other goodies for people whom we know very little or nothing at all, including the terror threat. Vilification and the threat of restrictions for born and bred citizens who decide to exercise their legal right to bodily autonomy. How I despise this awful sleazy government and its lackeys.

      2. 338420+ up ticks,
        Morning KtK,
        Just reading through the comments, the reason
        other muslim type countries will NOT take them in is that would be coals to Newcastle, and NOT exactly spreading the Japanese type knot weed
        misguided word.

    3. But it isn’t free, is it? It’s a tremendous cost to the tax payer for… what? What useful skills do these people have? Will they integrate into a 21st century Britain? Ah, hang on, they’ll no doubt start squealing in foreign, blabbering about rights, get free handouts, not work and complain about how they’re oppressed so of course they’ll be fine.

  32. I despair of the ignorance of people over Afghanistan, as exemplified by the letter writer who thinks the RAF was doing all the work and risking their lives in Kabul, not the Army.

    And where is the discussion of Pakistan’s directing, harbouring and supplying the Taliban? As the leaked transcript with Biden shows, President Ghani warned his American counterpart: “Mr President, we are facing a full-scale invasion, composed of Taliban, full Pakistani planning and logistical support, and at least 10-15,000 international terrorists, predominantly Pakistanis thrown into this, so that dimension needs to be taken account of.”

    1. I see the Taliban are sending all the usable military hardware to Iran. At least the Yanks will know how it works….

      1. The Taliban have demonstrated that they don’t need the US military hardware. In at last150 years they have seen off the greatest military powers on the planet, most recently using old rifles, and trucks anyone can buy at their local garage.

      1. Slammers don’t care about other slammers.

        Otherwise, all the slammer countries in the Middle East and North Africa would have welcomed the “refugees”.

        1. Looking at the map, Saudi Arabia has an Empty Quarter that does what it says on the tin.
          And, if the Benighted Kingdom is short of the readies, there are plenty of surplus benders (a common word to describe small tents, M’Lud) hanging around in a muddy field near Reading.

          1. I am obliged to my learned fiend. (sic)

            I understand that a charriddee is rescuing the tents and beds so as to make them available to illegal immigrants “refugees”

          2. Nahh Bill, they’re illegal immigrants – just state sponsored ones.

            When will government – of any sort – accept that we simply haven’t got the room?

          4. I tried once – twice – thrice – to subdue a bender and return it to its storage bag. It ended up tied with a piece of binder twine and down the charity warehouse.

      2. You mean, they should show solidarity with their co-religionists? Does it bring in the spondooliks?

        1. Exactly – the Uighurs aren’t the ones who will be paying to extract all the rare earth metals so that China can sell us wind turbines and electric cars!!

        2. No, I was thinking they must be pretty thick and greedy if they think they might not end up the same way! Perhaps they’re banking on China not wanting to stay in their benighted country for long. History would appear to support this point of view.

    2. Did Biden see that coming?

      Most of us did because China wants Afghan lithium.

      As I argued a week or two ago the best way to thwart China would be to stop all production of electric cars and return to diesel which is far cleaner and better for the environment anyway.

      1. A nice story to get your teeth into on a filthy late summer morning.

        Perhaps Molarmolar would care to comment.

    1. So it WAS a saline solution, after all. No wonder Hatman – such a great advocate of vaccination – quit.

        1. Wrong! Salt is a killer, which you’d know if you kept up with the narrative. Morning, Rastus.

          3. “Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
            Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
            To the last syllable of recorded time;
            And all our yesterdays have lighted fools.
            The way to dusty death. …
            Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player,”

        2. 5 ml of saline solution given by a frustrated night nurse ensured that an attention seeking patient had her best night’s sleep – ever.
          Cue very schtum nurses on the morning shift.

      2. I worry that the symptoms Hat exhibited and which caused him to retire are exacerbated by the Pfizer jabs.

        Having read Hat’s posts (and upticked many) I realised that Israeli society have great trust in their governments and that the jabs have been politicised in Israel to a greater extent than any other country.

    2. If vaccination doesn’t prevent the disease, which in the case of Covid it doesn’t, and if you vaccinate roughly 85% of the adult population, which Israel has, then naturally most of cases will be amongst the vaccinated.

      What is important is the relative severity of the disease between those who have and those who have not been vaccinated. If deaths and serious illness are predominately amongst the unvaccinated, it suggests vaccination is worthwhile, if it’s the other way round then vaccination has been a dangerous waste of resources.

        3. Or, perhaps, go back to classifying “cases” as people shewing symptoms of the disease?

      2. No, that’s only half the story. If the vaxx produces super-spreaders among the vaccinated, then they will carry on perpetuating the disease without getting serious symptoms, and killing the unvaxxed.
        They may also harbour and spread more dangerous mutants that won’t kill them, but will kill unjabbed people.
        If the vaccinations had not been carried out, one would see the normal gradual reduction of the virus until the less serious mutations predominate.
        The vaccine has messed with this desirable progress.

        1. I am very cautious about drawing conclusions regarding super-spreaders or whether they exist.

          My instinct tells me that there is a strong possibility that the ineffectiveness of the vaccine means it may do more harm than good long-term. However, it is clear that many people can be carrying and spreading the disease asymptomatically, vaccinated or not.
          I have argued from the outset that for most people it isn’t lethal unless they already have diseases/conditions/old age that make them particularly vulnerable.

          I stick by my original observations in early mid 2020, when the death rates were soaring, that what Covid did was to clear out a huge number of people who were only alive because there hadn’t been a few years of “heavy” ‘flu. If one looked at deaths per thousands of the population it was clear that rates had been dropping for years and were slowly moving back to norms, Covid merely took out the backlog.

          1. These results will need corroboration of course, but they do tend to suggest that the vaccinated are just as capable of being super-spreaders as the unvaccinated (and are more dangerous if their symptoms are less, because they will be out and about)
            https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897733
            I agree with you that covid cleared out the backlog (and the care home residents who got the Midazolam for other conditions because the hospitals wouldn’t accept them).

      3. I hold the view that the jabs are more dangerous than the virus. These are experimental therapies untested on animals. Here is an extract from the piece in Epoch Times:

        Sweden Bans Travelers From Israel, One of the Most Vaccinated Nations

        The so-called “Vaccine” is not a vaccine at all, because:
        a) it does NOT prevent anyone from contracting the virus
        b) It does NOT prevent a person who has contracted the virus from spreading it.
        c) it does NOT eliminate the virus from a person’s body; only a person’s immune system can do that.
        d) It DOES help with symptoms. Any of the NSAIDS, and some of the steroids help with symptoms, which in some people may be pronounced, indeed. It MAY support the immune system some.
        e) It DOES have some really serious side effects, potentially life threatening.
        f) it DOES alter DNA, making the person who is subjected to the product a Genetically Modified Organism (GMO). This means that anyone thus affected is NO LONGER strictly Homo Sapiens, and is no longer entitled to be classed as a person. See what happens when Monsanto’s GMO crops infect a neighboring field: Why, Monsanto goes right to court, and successfully argues that the neighbor’s crops belong to Monsanto, because the neighbor crops now have the Monsanto patented genotype. Bill Gates OWNS the patent on the COVID-19 virus.
        George Soros OWNS (or controls) the patents on the vaccines. DO you get the picture yet? You vaccinated people are about to become the PERSONAL PROPERTY of George Soros. Not only does the so-called vaccine not do what people expected it to do, everything about it is extremely troubling. Move along, folks. nothing to see here.

        https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/sweden-bans-travelers-from-israel-one-of-the-most-vaccinated-nations_3978811.html

      1. Early this morning I listened to this week’s, The Highwire, broadcast. The final part of the programme was taken up by an interview with Dr Vladamir Zelenko. Dr Zelenko is a Jewish medical practitioner in the USA and his recent presentation to a group of Rabbis in Israel re CV-19 opens his segment of the programme.
        During today’s interview Dr Zelenko labelled some Israeli politicians as prostitutes for what they have done and continue to do. The Doctor is a very outspoken and religious man who is concerned about all of humanity irrespective of their religious beliefs, or none.
        Dr Zelenko’s interview (arounnd 1 hour 17 minutes in) with Del Bigtree is well worth a listen, definitely the highlight of this week’s programme.

        The Highwire -Episode 231: Feast of Consequences

    1. We’re told that this summer in Britain was one of the hottest since the end of the Ice Age, or something, even though the sun put in an appearance about twice.

      Lol!

      1. If it’s hot it is a sure sign of global warming; if it’s cold it’s a sure sign of global warming; if it’s raining, snowing, hailing or sleeting it’s a sure sign of global warming; if there’s a hurricane it’s a sure sign of global warming; if it’s flat calm it’s a sign of global warming; if the sky is blue and cloudless it’s a sure sign of global warming; if it’s cloudy it’s a sure sign of global warming.

        Please could somebody tell me if there are any weather conditions which are not a sure sign of global warming?

        1. Get with the message Rastus- it’s called ‘climate change ‘ and ‘extreme weather events ‘ now.

      2. The choking on coffee should be heard around the world. We had 4, 5 days of baking hot weather.

        The rest of the time it was muggy.

    1. It is not “virtue signalling”. Virtue signalling can be dismissed as flim-flam. This is blatantly serious propaganda. A society that has been based to a great extent on merit is now being pushed to accept that skin colour is a sign of merit, as long as that colour is not white.

    2. so…….. an all black day on C4 TV is not waycist, but statues of Horatio Nelson et al are

      We need to get our country back

      1. Hem – I think you mean: Horatio Nelson Mandela – the world famous, peace-loving naval commander.

      1. Aside from being able to scratch and bite us a bit more, Bruiser hasnt bothered about the lockdown. But then I think if the house fell down he’d just look at it grumpily as if such things were expected.

  39. The Tory Party is a wonderful mixture of the tax policies of Labour, the Green Party’s carbon agenda, the lockdown policies of the CCP, the Student Union’s views on wokeness, the travel policy of the Taliban and the immigration policy of Australia in the 1820s.

    1. And the worst of each.

      It’s astonishing. For the first time in years we get a government elected out of public frustration. A sound rejection of the Left wing and what do these fools do? They push every bloody possible daft agenda that we didn’t want on us they can!

      I’m still convinced this is the state taking revenge for losing their trougher jobs.

      1. 338420+ up ticks,
        Morning W,
        The herd refuse to accept the fact that the lab/lib/con are a mass uncontrolled immigration, paedophile umbrella, odious coalition.

        the 24/6/2016 was the trigger for treachery.

          4. Second hand darts board?

            Wasn’t she once married to a mixed-race footballer and then got into trouble for racially abusing somebody?

          5. Yes, a black(ish?) cloakroom girl at a night club. I think she smacked her about as well, safe in the knowledge that ‘the customer is always right’.

      2. I note that the dusky woman above on the rhs has a ring in her nose.

        This reminds me of Iago’s opinion of his superior officer:

        The Moor is of a free and open nature
        That thinks men honest that but seem to be so,
        And will as tenderly be led by th’ nose
        As asses are.”

        2. And of course an enterprising piggy wiggly can gain financial advantage by selling the ring in his nose to help facilitate and legitimise the relationship between an avian and feline couple.

      3. Hallo all, sun!
        “Comedian London Hughes wrote on Twitter that ‘due to systemic racism’, the UK music scene has neglected the talents of Black women in favour of white singers.”
        I have no idea who this person is but since he is a comedian, perhaps this is tongue in cheek. But these people really have no right to complain about “systematic racism” in our country, why should we bend to their will? Try that in a non-white country and see how far you get. We are the ethnic people of England and frankly I strongly object to them appropriating the term and, in the process, erasing the fact that as the ethnic people of England we take precedence and further more, we are 100% white, and have been for thousands of years. That is a statement of fact not an example of racism. Just as it is a statement of fact to say that native Nigerians are all Black.

        1. When they wanted to ring a bull, farmers would always get someone in from another farm, because them there bulls have a good memory.

  41. Boris Johnson will break manifesto pledge by raising National Insurance by 1% or more.

    Boris Johnson…break a promise?

    I will be glad to see the back of that two faced liar.

  42. 338420 + up ticks,

    Now there’s a question,

    Maybe a robotic arm / limb could be attached to the spinal column via epoxy resin able to wipe ones rear exit , undo fly’s, zips & shake hands etc,etc.

    The advancements into the past society is making is truly amazing.

    Get a grip: why are we still afraid of handshakes?
    Covid paranoia has seen us jettison life’s simple pleasures, with the traditional greeting going the same way as tea at the hairdresser’s

    1. Looking forward to a veiled Saint Jacinda saying that “New Zealanders must stand shoulder to shoulder with our slammer brothers and sisters at this difficult time.”

      2. The NZ PM said that she was ‘gutted’, which shows some extreme form of empathy with a victim of a knife attack I suppose.

    2. What annoys me is the cowardness of people in authority, regardless of country, to be blunt and simply say, “Muslim terrorist”. That this Muslim terrorist would be from Sri Lanka doesn’t surprise me. Sri Lanka has suffered several terror attack against both Buddhists and Christians for no other reason than Sri Lanka is a soft target with no particular beef against Islam at all. Which further emphasises what a craven bunch these killers are. Muslims have been present in Sri-Lanka since the 16th Century, perhaps they are miffed because they have not managed to terrorize the Buddhist majority into submission..

      1. One knows a group has stepped over pretty much all boundaries when Buddhists turn on them violently.

        1. Well the Buddhists did in Burma and what annoys me is the total misrepresentation of the facts in the Western press about that situation so that the Rohingya are made into victims when, in fact, they were and continue to be the aggressors. . I wrote about that the other day, if you saw it?

          1. I didn’t see your comment, but I agree with it.

            It’s been commented on on Nottle over the years.

      2. Why use the word ‘terrorist’? It is standard muslim culture, the killing and subjugation of other tribes.

      1. 338420+ up ticks,
        Morning A,
        I truly think the divided parts would still operate only we would have four times as many,ALL answering to just a “head” who in turn takes instructions from the instruction manual resting between the dispatch boxes.

        Lest we forget halal dumplings on the parliamentary
        canteen menu.

        1. The hanging wasn’t supposed to kill the victim, otherwise he wouldn’t feel what was to come next.

          4. A skilled executioner could make the subsequent disembowelling last for several minutes, making the victim watch as his entrails were burnt before him.

    3. Shall I write again to my MP (payroll vote – junior minister) and in doing so waste more of my time just to receive generalised bumf explaining it’s all necessary to protect people’s health? If HE believes that HE is a fool. Maybe he is confused or maybe he is a believer in what Johnson & Co are up to. Time will tell.

      1. Much as I believe our MP is a decent man, Korky, I am convinced he is just keeping a low profile and not rocking the boat to ensure his career is protected. Whether I vote for him in the next General Election or not, I am undecided. The problem is that other candidates and parties are worse and not to vote at all means that I can hardly complain about who is elected.

        1. Good afternoon, Elsie.

          If he is a careerist and puts his career before doing what is right for the people then he is not worth supporting. His support for a government that is on the slippery slope to authoritarianism will make him complicit in what follows and may never be undone. This month, with the Corona Act and “vaccine” passports issues rearing their heads, will show us which side of the fence he will favour: his career or helping to ensure his rogue party is not allowed to carry out its globalist agenda.

        2. That’s my reading of him as well.
          He resigned once (over something Brexit related, I think) and, I suspect, daren’t do it again.

      2. 338420+ up ticks,

        KtK,
        In the mafia you begin as a foot soldier then climb the nasty actions table to caporegime ( cabinet minster).

        This day & age there is little confusion among the politico’s they know precisely what
        they are doing 24/7, for the betterment of the …politico’s.

  45. I see that despite having a manifesto pledge not to do so the Government is going to put up National Insurance.

    That should help fund some much needed diversity managers for the NHS.

      1. Can’t see one on the NZ Courts pages.
        Given the way the police can almost always find a suitable law to charge people one might have thought that the judges, of all people, would know a law that could have had the perpetrator taken off the streets rather than 24/7 monitoring that clearly didn’t work well enough.
        TBH I’m actually surprised they shot him dead.

        3. Me too. Will Kiwis – especially the All Blacks – now have to kneel in sympathy before every match and riot and demand that the NZ police are de-funded?

    2. He was a “person of interest” and was being closely followed by “police surveillance teams” closely enough that he was shot dead within 60 seconds of the attacks. Obviously not closely enough. When he removed a knife from a cabinet did the police say, “Oh Bless! He’s taking up cooking.”?

      1. Perhaps there are other “people of interest” and the authorities don’t want them identified until the terrorist attack they are planning (not illegally) has been carried out.

        2. Last figure I remember is that there are 40,000 “people of interest” in the UK. The number will have increase somewhat over the last few weeks. Quite soon, our jihadis will outnumber our soldiers.

    5. I guess the judge considers ‘planning something’ is the same as ‘thinking about it’. So why are there other offences such as conspiracy to commit murder, etc? Sounds like the relevant Act was poorly written.

      1. Or poorly interpreted. I suspect that had he been planning an anti-lockdown act of terror he would have been banged up in double quick time.

        1. The judge was wrong. The Act is pretty clear:

          25. Carrying out and facilitating terrorist acts
          (1) For the purposes of this Act, a terrorist act is carried out if any 1 or more of the following occurs:
          (a) planning or other preparations to carry out the act, whether it is actually carried out or not:
          (b) a credible threat to carry out the act, whether it is actually carried out or not:
          (c) an attempt to carry out the act:
          (d) the carrying out of the act.

          So, he could have been arrested and prosecuted under a) or b)

    6. Daily Mail Quote from the usless feminist PM of New Zealand, lover of Communist China: ‘What happened today was despicable, hateful and wrong,’ she said. ‘It was carried out by an individual, not a faith or religion. He was gripped by violent and ISIS-inspired ideology that is not supported here.”

      Perhaps then she would like to explain why the Al-Azhar University of Cairo, the nearest thing to an ultimate authority in Sunni Islam has refused to condemn Isis as “un-Islamic”. On the contrary it has said that despite Isis being extreme its teachings are 100% Islamic.

      1. I believe the expression is cognitive dissonance.

        In her haste to embrace New Zealand’s enemies she overlooks the fact they they only mean New Zealand harm and will not be changed by her comforting words and actions.

      2. Parroting verbatim from the WEF-Blair handbook on how to ruin a country. Well, she was one of their young leaders, as well as working for Blair.

        1. Two things that would be fitting regarding Blair are a stiff and the recent smell of cordite.

    7. Why are politicians so inanely and (thick as shit) feebly stupid ?
      The whole world is just a click away from information and they learn absolutely nothing from the experiences of other countries.
      I hope the sensible Kiwis rise up against this sort of garbage as quickly as it has started.
      It’s pretty obvious to any one with a nut shell of commonsense that islam is setting out to take over the world and bring western civilisation to it’s knees, literally.

      1. You may think that, I may think that, the Muslims may think that, the PTB don’t think and they are leading us into a category five shitstorm.

        1. Not half SOS….that’s rather fitting eh.
          I feel very worried for my lovely innocent grandchildren right now.

          2. I just know I will die ‘broken hearted’ Anne.
            As i never really knew my grand parents well, and found latterly i missed so much about their lives. Including the severe hardships some of their own siblings suffered. I am going to write an account of my travels and experiences from as far back as i can recall.
            So far they are having a lovely time, of course with many more restrictions, but similar to the early stages of my life.
            I actually found out years (too late) later that my maternal Great Grand (who i never met) father actually came from the same village in Hertfordshire where our eldest son and his family now live. But moved south to Hendon NW4 where my mother grew up.

    8. Hitler should have got a death sentence for his crimes as a youth, however, the (German) judge was lenient with him as he wanted to give the young Austrian another chance…that worked out well, didn’t it.

          2. I think the Education Office in Germany would get very shirty at the idea that their history syllabus is not true!

          7. I’ve used google translate.
            This looks like a post facto attempt to blame something on a few individuals to exculpate the German population as a whole. I’m not surprised they would teach it.

          8. That is not how it was taught, and I think that is a very poor interpretation to put on this episode. If the current docile acceptance of tyranny by so many in the West has taught you nothing else, it should have taught you that the Germans-all-are-evil-nazis narrative is shallow and jingoistic.
            It is accepted as fate and luck, in the same way as Hitler’s incredible lucky escapes from assassination are. Reflecting on how different things could have been if this idiot judge had pushed for the harshest sentence possible, is the normal practice of historians.

          9. I accept that you are very pro German, but to suggest that because I question the approach means that I think that the Germans-all-are-evil-nazis narrative is shallow and presumptuous.

          10. The fact that you think I’m pro-German shows rather what an anti-German standpoint you’re coming from.
            You didn’t just question the approach, you instantly jumped to blame Germans as being bad people who want to excuse themselves from being Nazis.

            I am talking about the intellectually lazy belief held by most Britons that the Nazis took over Germany because there is something inherently bad about Germans – rather than accepting that an authoritarian takeover can happen in any country, including Britain – which is absolutely consistent with what you wrote.

          11. The fact that you think I’m pro-German shows rather what an anti-German standpoint you’re coming from.
            Just how did you come to that conclusion?
            Where did I suggest that Germans are inherently bad people?
            I stated that the lessons were an exculpation, that is not saying Germans are bad but merely that they would prefer their history to have been otherwise.

            I’ve worked in Germany, I worked for and with Germans, I like Germans by and large, and to suggest otherwise from a post that questioned a teaching approach which appeared to be based on one person’s research backed up by a lot of whataboutery-whatiffery is somewhat jumping to conclusions.

            You remind me of the woke, who are trying to blame Britain for all the evils of the world, and their opponents who believe Britain can have done no wrong. I agree that it is perfectly possible that what happened in Germany could have happened in Britain and still could, but so far it hasn’t and God forbid it does, but it did happen in Germany and any amount of Hitler should have been executed doesn’t change that.

          12. It’s not just one person’s research. It is mainstream historical knowledge, and it is taught in quite a neutral way.
            The only thing that interests me is truth, as much as it can be determined, not twisting facts for agendas.

          13. Well, here’s a bit of whatabouteriffery:

            If Germany had won WW2 do you think it would be taught at all, let alone in the same way?

            Ones woman’s truth is another man’s propaganda.

          14. Because the Nazis would have taught history as propaganda, the Germans must keep apologising for the war in perpetuity?
            Sorry, that is just silly. We had better agree to disagree, because it is well known that nobody can sleep while someone on the internet is wrong.

      1. Hi Araminta, there’s something odd about your posts, they are “fuzzy” Your first post that starts “Unbelievable, Re the NZ attacker” I can’t even answer. If I click on it it reacts the same way as when you click on a picture and it becomes a separate page!? Are you doing something odd?

          1. So you’re saying, Bill (© Cathy Newman) that you are doing a spot of wall-papering and are using Annie’s Apple Jelly as paste.

            :-))

      1. Going by advertisers’ perceptions it should be around 50% with the white women paired with a BAME male.

    3. A targetted reply to all our TV adverts, whereby No Whitey is ever seen.

      Where are the Woke complaints about that

    4. Precisely why should there be any minorities catered to on this mural. Is it because this more accurately reflects the demographic make up of the region rather than the false propaganda of the “Woke”?

    5. I see that in the Northern Quarter there is only one woman to three men. And two of the men are cyclists and weight lifters – what about the stamp collectors, line-dancers, gardeners and chess players?

    6. Approximately 160 BAMEs in population of 13,000. Whether any of them own businesses in the areas of the town featured on the mural is not reported.

    1. Morning all, that reminds me, a few months back i had the offer of lots of apples to collect for my cider making. But a lot of work and hours spent. With good results.

        1. So you are saying, Annie (© Cathy Ashton) that you are a secret cider-drinker who makes midnight trips to the garden shed to slake your thirst. :-))

      1. It can be used as jam but, like redcurrant jelly, goes well with meat.
        There are a couple of apple trees growing in a nearby field and yesterday was my first raid. Next week will be second raid plus a another raid on blackberry bushes.
        It helps alleviate the pent-up frustration at seeing nearby gardens with an abundance of laden plum, damson and rowan trees going to waste.

        1. Interesting – our apples (the few -having suffered from the sudden hard frost in May) are nowhere near ready.

          3. Mine are starting to become ready to pick – in other words, some will separate from the tree when lifted, but others need more time.

        3. I could send you some plums, our plum tree has so much fruit that the branches are all bending down towards the ground, it has taken on the definite look of a willow tree!

          So much fruit and veggies this year but supermarket prices are going up because of the shortages.

    3. What baffles me about this and similar stories is that when shot dead, no-one complains about the shooter’s rights. However, when the shooter is simply injured – whether slightly or just enough to make them drop their weapons – they have to be given their full “legal rights” and all kinds of lawyers rush forward to explain why they should not receive a death sentence. Which shooting dead effectively is. Can The Legal Beagle or A. N. Other explain?

      1. I can Elsie: No profit to be made from a dead man for the lawyer. It’s as simple as that.

    4. My comment on that story in the DM didn’t get past the censors! My surprised and concerned faces clearly weren’t good enough.

    1. Let’s reduce all MP, council management, expenses claims, pension contributions by double the tax hike.

    1. When i was a youngster most of us kids had a catapult, they were great fun as long as you didn’t get yer hand trapped between the missile and the grip.
      Old marbles were good and accurate ammo.

          3. Beading round two mirrors; install shelf in shower room cupboard. Shorten two doors of a four door set. They couldn’t be opened. Adjust two kitchen cupboard hinges; Adjust door catches on two doors that wouldn’t shut properly. Attach door knocker (bought in Damascus 21 years ago – in a junk shop in “The Street called Strait”…

          4. There is a Strait Street in Malta. It’s where all the sailors went to see the ladies of the night.

          7. Piece of cake Bill 😎
            When I were a younger man I could hang 15 fire check (the heavy ones, three 4 inch hinges) doors in one day.
            I found managing contracts less physical but sometimes far more stressful 🤔🙄………..you can’t get the staff.

          9. Positive saves the cuts and bruises.
            You may have seen some of the work i was involved in if you ever used a bank in Stanmore. At J Westerdick and sons (Joinery) of Elm Grove Road Harrow we had contracts with two banks for refurbishments in the mid 60s counters doors screens you name it.

    4. Perfect timing, thanks.

      As I was scrolling down the page, my wife announced that her hospital fund raising group had received an invite to take their booth to yet another farmers market. That would be two different markets this weekend.

      Say No doesn’t seem to work, this might help.

    1. Nah, that money got allocated to government cabinet’s mates for overpriced non-functioning Covid PPE and testing.

    2. The campaign bus was not run by the Conservative Party, who did not support Brexit. Should have voted UKIP if you wanted that money to go to the health service.

    3. The bus was replaced with a green one which said on the side:

      Let’s fund our transport with electricity

      …and it ran out of juice in Cornwall where there were no EV sockets!

    4. Neither have. The reasons are manifold but they all come down to the machine of state refusing to do what the public want.

      1. Good old BBC – last night it shows day 1 of the test – tonight…..nothing….bloody athletics
        They put it on at 11.05 instead….after I’m zzzzzing. B*stards – and they want me to buy a licence!

  54. I just cannot understand what this pointless government is actually trying to achieve in any sensible or moderately constructive terms.
    They blab on and on continuously about climate change Glow-ball warming carbon emissions etc etc. And well under way there is a huge housing project only two miles from Canterbury just off the A2, on ‘ex agricultural’ land and on green belt for FOUR THOUSAND new homes ??? And recently announced thousands more new homes in Essex near Harlow and Brentford. Someone aka the government is telling some very large fat flowing porkies about CC and making billions out of building at the same time.

      1. There are certainly a majority of imported trades working in the UK now. Its a bit similar to Auf Wiedersehen, Pet. In reverse.

          3. No need to apologise. Auf Wiedersehen (to the next seeing) is like Au revoir (to seeing again). On the telephone you say in German ‘to the next hearing’.

          4. No need to apologise. Auf Wiedersehen (to the next seeing) is like Au revoir (to seeing again). On the telephone you say in German ‘to the next hearing’.

      2. Hopefully they will be given to gimmies…no wait – they will be the ones to DEMAND better accommodation.

        1. Appropriate ( i.e. LARGE ) houses ( on the taxpyer ) already approved for randy fertile Afghans – and the Africans will claim discrimination if THEY don’t get the same.

    4. WEF agenda – digital Ids, mass migration, zero carbon, no meat. I’d say they’re being quite successful, really.

        1. Pointless anyway, as CO2 doesn’t change the climate. They just can’t stand all the little people having the freedom of a car.

          1. Apologies blackbox – need to correct you:

            They just can’t stand all the little people having the freedom of a car.

          2. Apologies blackbox – need to correct you:

            They just can’t stand all the little people having the freedom of a car.

    5. 50 years ago I lived in Maidstone, went back about 8 years ago. Couldn’t find my old house, and all exits to the countryside that I spent my time in was blocked by roads. Favourite walk was from Maidstone Bridge to Allington locks. The tow path still exists but the countryside and farmlands have all gone to be replaced by housing. This is supposed to be the “Garden of England” But it’s mostly gone now, the most fertile part of England and it has been paved over.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwuPui0pmO4

      1. I’ve not heard that version before Counting Crows, very apt.
        Same thing is happening where I grew up In Mill Hill NW7. As youngsters we could hop over our back garden fences and walk miles to Totteridge Long ponds and only have to cross one road. We were surrounded by fields and wood land and it was free to access with no restrictions. Now there are plans submitted to build over all of it. At One stage it was planned that a gas fired power station was to be built as there want not enough power for all the new homes that had already been built on the old army, Inglis barracks site. mayor Kahnt interfered in ordering the demolition of the Iconic National Medical Research building on the Ridgeway MIl Hill. It was proposed to be extended and refurbished and turned into flats. Now Flattened and built over.

        1. When you grew up there were not so many immigrants. Plus chidren of immigrants. Plus their children.

          The indigenous haven’t increased their breeding, but the incomers don’t know when to stop.

          1. I only knew two immigrants when I was growing up (both Europeans). An Italian and a German PoW who had settled down in England (their children were indistinguishable from us, apart from their foreign surnames).

          2. I knew one lad at school whose mother had been affectionate with a black an American service man. We knew a few Irish families must have been Catholics they had lots of kids. As did my parents generation, but i guess it was insurance, as infant mortality was quite high in Edwardian England.
            Only people on benefits can afford large families now.

      2. 50y I arrived at 61HQ Sqn, an outpost of 36 Engr Regt based in the now long gone old West Kent Barracks near the town centre.
        Yes, the area has changed horribly.

    6. Climate change is a scam and a con. There are clear issues, but the state hiking taxes to do stupid things that make no difference will not affect the planet in any way whatsoever. They’ll just make us poorer and have the state waste money.

      The state is also fanatically hypocritical, as it fervently believes in uncontrolled massive immigration while ardently refusing to acknowledge the huge burden this places on the country.

      I believe this is because big government doesn’t really give a flying fig. It does not care one hoot. Immigration demands more state. ‘Climate change’ demands more state. Both, for the state, are good things. That both are detrimental to the public good, stability, the economy, finance, wealth, happiness – are irrelevant. Big state does not care. Why should it? It loses if we ignore climate change (or do the useful things, which I’d like) and stops immigration.

      There’s also a degree of – I think – spite. Brexit got us out of the EU, but the state is ardently europhiliac, so is implementing all the Left wing, big state green nonsense and massive immigration nonsense that (it mistakenly believes) brexiteers voted against.

      In either case, I’m clucking sick of it. The whole thing needs washing away. Massive redundancies, starting at the top. Treat it as an anti hive. Make people accountable. Demand productivity and efficiency. If they cannot understand how to achieve more, for less money then the management is not fit for purpose.

      1. Absolutely spot on, I just wish someone would get themselves onto the wide spread MSM and say exactly what you have written. I have sent email after email to supposed green (liars) people, the Naturalists, TV nature programs, news papers and even my useless politician and I have never receive a single reply, except from my Politician who does not appear to associate the problem with (perhaps it is a false assumption) supposed climate change, with mass immigration and building thousands of new homes on the English country side. His response to that was on the 26 July 2021, The United Kingdom has a proud record of helping those fleeing persecution, oppression or Tyranny from around the world.
        After more recent events his words gave me the impression that he might have been briefed as to what was about to happen. And has.
        It seems planning permission had long been granted for many more thousands of homes, which suggests this exodus from Afghanistan was planned a long way in advance.

        1. Last time I checked there wasn’t a great deal of “persecution, oppression or Tyranny” in France – although Micron seems to be doing his best with tyranny!

        2. ‘Afternoon, Eddy, “…fleeing persecution, oppression or Tyranny from around the world.” so come to the UK and either partake in it (Muslim) or suffer from it (all the rest).

          2. I would love to arrange the people who have set this up in front of a firing squad, they are out of their minds.

      3. Huge population increases are incompatible with CO2 reduction (everybody breathes out CO2 as an end product of respiration). Building on green fields, quite apart from reducing land available for food production, produces “urban hotspots” (q.v.). As you say, it’s a scam and a con.

    1. Can someone explain why if i look at the top clip and then come back to the page the other links have disappeared ???
      This seems to happen all the time with twitter.

    2. Noam Chomsky is an extremist lefty and always has been. He is a Communist if anything. Any remarks by him should be taken in that light. He may be Jewish but it is an entirely token designation with him and quite irrelevant to what he is. I doubt that he even considers himself to be a Jew.

        1. There was a theory that he was partly Jewish. Another theory was that his enmity towards them was caused by a dose caught from a Jewish prostitute.

          2. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/was-hitler-jewish

            One of the most frequently asked questions about the Holocaust and the Nazi party is whether Adolf Hitler was Jewish or had Jewish ancestors.

            Though the idea may seem preposterous to some, the question seems to stem from the remote possibility that Hitler’s grandfather was Jewish. Hitler’s father, Alois, was registered as an illegitimate child with no father when born in 1837 and to this day Hitler’s paternal grandfather is unknown. Alois’ mother, Maria Schicklgruber, is known to have worked in the home of a wealthy Jew, so there is some chance, however small, that a son in that household got Hitler’s grandmother pregnant.

            In 1933, the London Daily Mirror published a picture of a gravestone in a Jewish cemetery in Bucharest inscribed with some Hebrew characters and the name Adolf Hitler, but this Bucharest Hitler could not have been the Nazi leader’s grandfather. At the time, though, this picture sufficiently worried Hitler that he had the Nazi law defining Jewishness written to exclude Jesus Christ and himself.

            In 2010, the British paper The Daily Telegraph reported that a study had been conducted in which saliva samples were collected from 39 of Hitler’s known relatives to test their DNA origins and found, though inconclusively, that Hitler may have Jewish origins. The paper reported: A chromosome called Haplogroup E1b1b1 which showed up in [the Hitler] samples is rare in Western Europe and is most commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia, as well as among Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews … Haplogroup E1b1b1, which accounts for approximately 18 to 20 per cent of Ashkenazi and 8.6 per cent to 30 per cent of Sephardic Y-chromosomes, appears to be one of the major founding lineages of the Jewish population. This study, though scientific by nature, is inconclusive.

            Despite the claims, Adolf Hitler was not Jewish.

          3. And, at no stage of his life was Adolf Hitler known as “Schicklgruber”, despite the popular myth.

            Hitler’s paternal grandmother was Maria Anna Schicklgruber and although her illegitimate son, Alois (Hitler’s father) used the name for a short time, it was never passed on to his son.

      3. How stupid do you have to be to be mugged by reality and STILL believe in authoritarian cräp?

        The second tweet was chilling – do we know if that’s reality or speculation?

          1. Pretty much the same – and his immediate (and later) followers were…

            As far as I am aware, they never denied their Judaism. Neither, I understand, have the owners of the world’s largest banks.

    3. Download app for facial recognition and geo location?? – simple – don’t carry a phone.
      If you do – take the photo while wearing a mask of someone famous.

  57. Security operation for Queen’s death includes social media blackouts. 3 September 2021.

    The UK government’s vast security operation to manage the immediate aftermath of the death of the Queen include official social media blackouts and a ban on retweets.

    The social media strategy plays a prominent role, including plans to change the royal family’s website to a black holding page with a short statement confirming the Queen’s death, while the gov.uk website and all governmental social media pages will display a black banner. Non-urgent content will not be published and retweets will be banned unless cleared by the government’s head of communications.

    I guess quite a few sites will go under during this operation never to emerge again!

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/sep/03/security-operation-for-queens-death-includes-social-media-blackouts

    2. 338420+ upticks,
      Afternoon AS,
      There will of course be an enlightening period post exit
      may one ask will that period enlighten the electorate in regards to a top mullah taking the throne ?

    3. FGS the lady is not dead yet! Stop writing about what will happen when she is dead, and appreciated her while she is alive!

  58. Second-class mail is the butterfly that emerged from the caterpillar of printed papers rate. I’m sure that most of us here can remember bills and the like arriving in unsealed envelopes, so that the GPO could check that there was no cheating.

  59. Cricket update: Lunch – BBC Radio 4 celebrating India’s first win over England 1962 and 1971 win in England. 30 minutes gloating. Hoping for a repeat.

  60. What can we learn about Afghanistan from Alastair Campbell? 3 September 2021.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/65219b5e0bf3ce63029cca7984c1471a9152f3c7684f7154580aa1facf805378.jpg

    So finally we are at the point. What can we learn about Afghanistan from Alastair Campbell? Unsurprisingly we learn that he thinks that Tony Blair would have done a better job than Johnson over Afghanistan. And as the man who helped Blair get the UK into Afghanistan and then get stuck there for 20 years you would have thought this would be the moment for some insight. For example, just why did the mission to destroy al Qaeda camps turn into a mission to state-build in the country and then into a mission that lasted a full 20 years, with nothing to show for it at the end but a better-armed, fully American-equipped Taliban? Surely this could be a moment for Campbell to share some insight into how all this happened?

    This man, like his boss Blair, suffers from some sort of psychological condition that blinds them to the part that they have played in the deaths of tens of thousands of quite innocent people and the destruction they have wreaked on the UK. If ever two people were deserving of a terrible fate and the Fires of Hell to follow after they are Prime Candidates!

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/what-can-we-learn-about-afghanistan-from-alastair-campbell-

    1. Every time I see that disgusting creature it reminds me to take a look and see if we need to buy more toilet paper.

    2. Apparently the poor lamb has had some mental health issues (bandwagoning). Personally, i hope he can’t sleep at night.

    3. This was the man who was not security-cleared but who was involved at every stage. He succeeded in seizing control of what was to become the ‘dodgy dossier’ having persuaded senior members of the security services to go along with changes he wanted (to their eternal shame) all to support Bliar’s hunger for his own ‘good war’. Some of those senior people escaped any kind of sanction and were actually rewarded for their complicity – and presumably their silence too.

      Even to this day, this shocking breakdown in the way that such matters should be handled – in other words political interference in a strictly non-political matter – still makes what is left of my hair stand on end. People like Campbell and Bliar are beneath contempt, and got away with it.

    5. Maybe even his booze saturated brain feels a smidgeon of regret at thousands of unnecessary deaths.

    1. I’m not being pedantic because there really is a difference in mentality, most Libyans are not Arabs many are Berbers and are consciously trying to break away from the dominance of Arabic and the culture it represents by insisting their own language be represented in daily life as is Arabic. It is a hopeful sign of the resurgence of the local culture against Arabic and the stranglehold of Islam. This process is going on across Northern Africa, from Libya to Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria etc.

        1. Well if Libya could sort itself out, considering their wealth, that would stop pretty quickly.

          2. The reality is that egos are in the way. Libya should be two separate countries. The present division between the two conflicting sides, East and West, really reflects a natural division that in the Kings day was acknowledged by having a winter capital and a summer capital, the king would shuttle back and forth every six months with his court and the government to keep the two regions together by treating them equally. If they could either restore the monarchy, which would be helpful since the Monarchy represent the founders of the country, the Sannusiya, that would, hopefully, solve the problem. Or they are going to have to recognize that the reality is there are two states and it would be better for both to go their own way. A bit like the division between the Czechs and the Slovaks, actually, two countries but closely related with deep cooperation between the two. But, as I said, ego’s, always the problem when it comes down to it.

      2. That is such an interesting point of view .

        How little I know about matters like that .
        What was the position of Gadaffi , because I have read that his son wants to re enter politics ?

        1. Gadhafi paid lip service to Islam. You will find that many of them are like that. It’s convention, after all, and expedient. It was my experience, even 50 yeas ago that they broke the rules but did so quietly.

          My father supplied the police chief with booze once a month. In a magnificent performance. We would go for a drive on a specific Sunday and be flagged down for some fictitious reason and then, discreetly, two crates of hard liquor, Scotch, Vodka etc was transferred from our car to the boot of his police car.

          Both of the men that worked for our family ignored Ramadan, but only at our house where they would be safe from prying eyes and certainly neither of them bothered from the obligatory prayers during the day, Ramadan or not.

          I think, particularly in North Africa, perhaps because of its proximity to Europe that Islam will collapse comparatively quickly. Bear in mind that 100 years ago the status of Christianity was unassailable and it was unthinkable it would become a shadow, as it is now. The same process is taking place in places like Libya, I think. But unless you are interested in that part of the world you are not aware of the shifts that are taking place. For some inexplicable reason North Africa is not considered newsworthy in Europe or the UK unless something negative is happening when, in fact, what goes on there should be of constant concern to us.

          3. I agree with you there .

            Scant attention is given to the shifting politicals sands in North Africa .

            Well actually, I feel that the FO really haven’t a clue , and haven’t really been awake to developments anywhere in Africa in recent years . They have taken their eye off the ball .

      3. 30+ years ago we got chatting to a chap in a bar in Agadir.
        He was VERY insistent that he was a Berber, not an Arab.

        2. My brother was chatting to a local when on holiday in Brittany. The local told him he took his holidays in England because he loved English ale. My brother told him that he loved France because of the lovely wine. When he told the local, “You French…”, the man exploded, pumped his chest with his fist and declared, “Non! Breton!“

        3. My brother was chatting to a local when on holiday in Brittany. The local told him he took his holidays in England because he loved English ale. My brother told him that he loved France because of the lovely wine. When he told the local, “You French…”, the man exploded, pumped his chest with his fist and declared, “Non! Breton!“

        1. No because the problem in the UK is that we are saddled with the worst. Deobandi Muslims who are characterized as having a hatred for the British and who are fundamentalist no different from the Taliban or the Wahabi of Saudi Arabia. I suggest you look them up to see what a real problem we have here in the UK. It is a disgrace that our government is so craven that it allows that sort of Islam to flourish in Britain. An Islam that is actually based on a hatred for the west and actually encourages terrorism.

  64. 338420+ up ticks,
    So the overseers will not give an answer as to raise taxes or the ancients
    must look to their own welfare costs after they & their parents have already paid once, the overseers see it as a type of repeat prescription.

    So you the electorate have achieved the ultimate in governance body’s
    as they are running at 100% sh!te level via your continuing input., done well, as ALL the innocents are being.

  65. Just on the radio. Local taxi drivers want the council to approve a rise in the basic start charge because ” fuel price rise charges” – – did they drop those same basic charges when petrol went down to £1 per litre??? – And petrol USED to be in £1.50 per litre range – – so is still cheaper than then.

    1. French bathrooms often have sockets as well as shaver points, but generally not in the shower.

      1. You can now have a light switch IN the bathroom. The regs were changed a couple of years ago to allow for new compact flats etc.

        1. A switch as opposed to a pull cord?

          Here the bathrooms can have a switch inside the bathroom and it’s been allowed for years.
          The socket was the one that surprised me here, because there would be nothing to stop one plugging in an electric heater or hair dryer.

          1. Claude Francois did it his way!

            Claude François meurt le 11 mars 1978 , à 14 h 45, dans son domicile parisien, 46, boulevard Exelmans, d’un œdème pulmonaire provoqué par une électrocution accidentelle dans sa salle de bains alors qu’il prenait un bain.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnbqMKs4QN0

          2. He used to be all over “Salut les Copains” in the early 60s. I studied the magazine carefully to improve my everyday French.
            He wore silk socks, and did not use hair shampoo but combed talcum powder through it. Unfortunately the French exams had stuff about the “Directoire”. I learned later that the Directoire was not a wardrobe.

          3. You can now have a switch, update from electical company.

            “For light switches, plate switches can be used on the inside of the
            bathroom, but these must be suitable for use in the bathroom, given the
            high levels of humidity and condensation. And they also must be at least
            0.6m away from the bath or shower. A pull cord can be used instead, in
            any location in the bathroom.”

      1. 3rd world plumbing – coming to a place near you . . . courtesy of the UK import the world program.

      1. They are made by Yanks, Tom (as your daily jokes are).

        As you know, trying to teach a Yank English is like trying to plait piss!

  70. Russia sows distrust on social media ahead of German election. 3 September 2021.

    Those figures place the Kremlin-backed media organization at the top of the social media leader board compared to mainstream German publishers like Bild, the national tabloid owned by Axel Springer (which is also co-owner of POLITICO) and Deutsche Welle, the country’s international, publicly-owned broadcaster, based on analysis from CrowdTangle, a Facebook-owned analytics tool.

    “There’s clearly a huge demand for what Russia is selling here among Germans. And that, I think, across the West is deeply concerning,” said Bret Schafer, head of the information manipulation team at GMF’s Alliance for Securing Democracy.

    “It’s clear where this content is coming from. This isn’t like a covert information operation where there is some partisan site that Russia has spun up,” he added. “They are somehow outperforming most, if not all, of the traditional media outlets.”

    The problem here is that the Western MSM has discredited itself! If you are looking for the truth then you have to look elsewhere!

    https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-russia-social-media-distrust-election-vladimir-putin/

    1. Deutsche Welle is the German BBC. Awful thing. Not surprising anyone with more than half a brain doesn’t trust it.

      My German friends tell me they think the government is going easy on the covid regs before the elections.

    2. This is quite a good site for layman’s German politics (in German, obv). The guy is an amateur that started out during the pandemic – Merkel mocks him at press conferences apparently, but he is obsessed with detail, and flags up if he thinks the government is putting out inconsistent information – standards to which the compliant mainstream media don’t hold them.
      https://reitschuster.de/

        1. Actually, that link says it starts next week!
          It actually is real – I thought it was a joke.

          And the best bit….it’s for people who are quarantining because they have returned from OTHER PARTS OF AUSTRALIA!

          Bet Macron thinks it’s a great idea, but I can’t see that going down well in France. Australia is gone if they accept this. I’d rather throw away my mobile phone.

          Anyone who obediently downloads this app and goes along with it is as guilty as the perpetrators. There is a point when resistance is a duty. If they accept this, then next year there won’t be the option to resist it without punishments.

          2. Not in our part of the South.

            Mobile reception is so bad, and so intermittent, that the PTB couldn’t trace anyone.

          3. Do you have an LTE phone? Rural coverage is supposed to be better than for earlier technologies.
            They can fix technology – it’s the principle of freedom that we mustn’t give up.

          4. My understanding was that it was under trial to see if it worked, but given the way Oz is heading I would not be surprised if it was rolled out fully, soon.

        2. Actually, that link says it starts next week!
          It actually is real – I thought it was a joke.

          And the best bit….it’s for people who are quarantining because they have returned from OTHER PARTS OF AUSTRALIA!

          Bet Macron thinks it’s a great idea, but I can’t see that going down well in France. Australia is gone if they accept this. I’d rather throw away my mobile phone.

          Anyone who obediently downloads this app and goes along with it is as guilty as the perpetrators. There is a point when resistance is a duty. If they accept this, then next year there won’t be the option to resist it without punishments.

    3. Population of Aus shown as nearly 26 million. Police numbers given as 70k – so if EVERYONE went out and disobeyed? – How long would it take to arrest process and jail EVERYONE in Australia?

      1. People need to put away their smart phones and buy a button phone.
        “Sorry, can’t download the app”

        1. When the idiots are so addicted to them they’ll walk across junctions without looking – – -no chance..

      2. Some Conservative commentators believe that Australia has become a prison under the current national and state regimes.

        1. In every new car sold in Europe for last couple of years too. Under guise of Auto Assist, contacting 999 if sensors detect a crash. Car won’t work if its disabled. Also in mobile phones My phones get put in a Faraday bag when i’m driving.
          .

      2. Using the wonders of technology on the smart phone and in the mobile phone system. Mobile cells, IIRC, have a radius of 2.5 miles and smart phones have apps with GPS tracking. I have one I can use to record my walks. It would appear that much of the control these people want to initiate is predicated on people having smart phones and having the required apps loaded. Buy a smart phone and lose your freedom?

      1. They are recording the face of each and every person at the ground…..for “security” purposes…

    2. That is a Maneki-neko, a Japanese mascot. Cultural appropriation, cultural appropriation! The man should be hounded on Twatter and fired.

        2. Yep, but they are originally Japanese. But as you know from the plagiarism and industrial theft of the Chinese, they are not above cultural appropriation by any means. Anything they can steal and make a buck from.

      1. Private property is private property. A stranger can only enter with the consent of the owner. He then grants you a “licence” to come on his land. For regular visitors, such as tradesmen, postmen, binmen – one does not give each and every one an express licence – that would be far too complicated. So they come to your property by virtue of an “implied licence”.

        Clear? That’ll be fifty guineas..!

        1. Couldn’t understand a word – i’ll charge you 50 guineas for my time getting it into plain English. Quits?

        2. What is clear, Bill, is the fact that it is a National Health Service, paid for by the British taxpayer and therefore it cannot be private land as it is owned by the taxpayer.

  75. We have received a letter from Scottish Power telling us that our electricity charges will be going up by about 10%. This is because the wholesale price of gas and electricity has gone up by over 50% since February.
    Colour me daft, but was all the green stuff not supposed to make electricity cheaper? Did not Tomorrow’s World not reassure us on this?
    (What is the point of our taxes being spent on subsidising landowners and electricity producers if we are going to die of cold because we cannot afford to keep warm? )
    We have had successive governments who have failed this basic question, that should be asked on every matter that passes before Parliament, “Is this in the best short term, and long term, interests of the country?”

    1. I had a similar one a few days ago so I’ve just changed to a fixed tariff to try to stave off massive hikes for the next two years – dearer now, but hopefully cheaper in the long run. I was on a fixed tariff and quarterly payments, but sneaky SP didn’t just change the name from MOH’s to mine on the account, it switched me to a standard variable tariff and monthly bills. Apparently, they no longer do quarterly billing. I’m not happy, I’m grumpy, but there is sod all I can do about it other than what I’ve done. Green energy was always a scam because it’s totally unviable without massive subsidies – and who pays? The customer (and taxpayer) of course.

      1. I could move to a slightly lower tariff -very slightly lower, if I moved to DD. We’ve been on Quarterly cash bills for 45 years and I do not plan to move now.

        1. They were pushing DD (I don’t want anyone else having control over taking money out of my account) and smart meters. I declined a smart meter and it was noted that I didn’t want one yet.

      2. I’ve done the same for my British Gas account. I have until the end of the month to change my mind.

    2. Sorry, I am not an investigative journalist, but I can follow a trail. RBS NatWest until earlier this year was majority owned by the govt.
      For the last 13 years the employees have therefore been de facto part of the public sector. It was an almost-nationalised bank.
      NatWest pension fund invests (through a network of companies) in the wind turbine industry; so if the eco subsidy increases, the NW pension fund earns more and the almost-public-sector pensioners have a better fund. Not insider trading, my boy! However, you can just imagine someone in the Treasury whispering to a pension trustee that even the poor & unemployed use electricity, and LibLabCon will make sure that the green-backers flourish quietly.

      2. 338420+ up ticks,
        Afternoon SE,
        ” Wot ” My laptop has a mind of it’s own and when IT decides to post, IT does just that.

        I had to edit to continue, I do beg forgiveness.

    2. 338420+ up ticks,
      O2O,
      Advice for any future opportunity to vote forget the Alamo remember the ongoing treacherous DOVER reset ,replace campaign,and vote accordingly.

  79. Good afternoon, dear Nottlers!

    A BTL comment from TCW re blood donation – it appears that vaxed people can’t donate blood to certain needy –

    Blood donation
    Top FDA vaccine officials RESIGN to avoid prosecution for crimes against humanity as White House, CDC commit GENOCIDE
    Thursday, September 02, 2021, by Mike Adams

    Red Cross says vaccinated cannot donate blood plasma because the vaccine wipes out antibodies
    In other fascinating news, the Red Cross has publicly announced that vaccinated individuals are prohibited from donating blood for certain plasma applications because, “the vaccine wipes out those antibodies,” according to a local newscast (and Red Cross documents, see below).

    Listen to the audio of this viral video below, revealing what a local news cast said about the Red Cross banning blood plasma donations by vaccinated individuals: https://tinyurl.com/y9j6juv4

    The Red Cross has confirmed all this in a PDF document from their own website. https://tinyurl.com/bedn64am It explains (emphasis added):

    If you receive any type of COVID vaccine, you are not eligible to donate convalescent plasma with the Red Cross. One of the Red Cross requirements for plasma from routine blood and platelet donations that test positive for high-levels of antibodies to be used as convalescent plasma is that it must be from a donor that has not received a COVID-19 vaccine. This is to ensure that antibodies collected from donors have sufficient antibodies directly related to their immune response to a COVID-19 infection and not just the vaccine, as antibodies from an infection and antibodies from a vaccine are not the same.

    It looks like people who receive spike protein injections actually have contaminated blood that poses a very real health threat to others.

    Covid vaccine antibodies are pathogen themselves, which means your immune system attacks healthy cell tissue
    In other shocking news covered by The Epoch Times, https://tinyurl.com/rvc9fftv new research has found that the antibodies produced in response to covid vaccines are, themselves, pathogenic. From TET:

    The researchers’ data suggests that at least two antibodies that target the spike protein that enables the COVID-19 virus to enter human cells are “pathogenic”—meaning these antibodies create illness all by themselves.

    As the researchers expected, two of the antibodies bound strongly to damaged lung cells—and one of those bound strongly to healthy cells as well. In fact, the antibody that could bind to healthy human lung cells, REGN10987, killed nearly half the pups.

    “This is a very troubling finding,” says Zoey O’Toole, a vaccine safety advocate who has a background in physics and engineering and who reviewed the study carefully. “It should give anyone pause, especially pregnant women.”

    So even if the vaccines “work” and produce antibodies, those antibodies can then attack your healthy cells. This explains why so many people who have taken the deadly vaccines are having their brains eaten alive by their own bodies, turning them into real-life “vaccine zombies.”
    https://tinyurl.com/23b268nu

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/professors-minor-triumph-against-the-vaccine-juggernaut/

    2. Sounds like some interesting content, but the article is rather badly written.

      The pdf from the Red Cross does not now state what is quoted (it may have been changed).
      All I could see was the following

      “The FDA allows people who have received a COVID-19 vaccine to donate dedicated COVID-19 convalescent plasma
      within six months of their infection of the virus, based on data that antibodies from natural infection can decline after six
      months however, the Red Cross has discontinued our convalescent plasma collection program”

      They do stress that if you’ve had a vaxx, you must be symptom free before giving blood, which is not quite consistent with the government’s insistence that side-effects are very rare.

      1. That’ll be the Pakistan with nuclear weapons and its own space programme….

        I can see how urgently they need our aid…(sarc)

    3. Probably a good percentage kindly invested on behalf of whoever signed off on that. – who’s going to miss £30 mil?

  81. 338420+ up ticks,
    Has any current supporter / voter of the overseers cartel have any belief in this rhetorical sh!te ?

    breitbart,

    The government is developing an integration scheme for Afghan migrants evacuated to the United Kingdom, which could include lessons on British culture and values, in a bid to emulate other countries with high-migrant populations like France and Germany.

    1. More wasted cash. No intention of integrating. Coming from there to here, finding a full infrastructure already built, their aim will be to get every “refugee” here to enjoy what we have paid for. They want this island – they do NOT want us. Integration – they’ll cry with laughter.

    2. They will probably contract the job out to the local mosque, who will promise to have them all indoctrinated in trying to understand our culture of being kind and the value of all the benefits they can claim. Simples…

      1. Or to something like serco, which will then sub-contract the actual work out to a local mosque.

      2. Or to something like serco, which will then sub-contract the actual work out to a local mosque.

  82. Daily Telegraph reporting that Andrew Neil is poised to quit GBNews as he cannot come to terms with the owner of the company. He was due back on Monday but has cancelled that. Why cannot a respectable outstanding political commentator be given the freedom he deserves. He is the jewel in the crown of the new company.

    2. Stupid is as stupid does! When you have a jewel don’t stuff it in the safe deposit box!

    1. Infuriating, with so many batsmen finding ways to get out when set, notably Malan, Ali and Pope; Robinson didn’t need to slog. England have thrown away 100 runs so far, having let India off in the first innings.

  85. That’s me for yet another sunless day. It is so dispiriting. Still the joinery stuff has been done. And he has agreed to return with his roofer to do another tedious job on the pantiles. And the MR had her ears syringed at the GP outfit. And the cats cavorted in the orchard – happily on their own, climbing the trees, jumping on and chasing each other – such a delight to watch. They’ll be a year old in 12 days!!!

    It is alleged that it may be sunny tomorrow afternoon. Don’t believe a word of it.

    Have a happy evening.

    A demain.

    PS Soldier neighbour returned from London, Her train was two hours late. Body on line. But, for once, NOT a suicide but the body of a person who had been murdered and then placed on the tracks to look like suicide… How about that?

        1. AGP (Aerosol Generating Procedure) so it’s as bad as the plague itself according to my surgery.

      2. They don’t do at our surgery either. OH had been trying to do it himself for months with olive oil then finally got an appointment with an ear person who told him there was no wax and his loss of hearing was age related. He then went to see an audiologist at specsavers who said the same thing. He’s now thinking about hearing aids, reluctantly.

    1. Our roses were wonderful this year UNTIL the rain and gales (and the blight). Never quite recovered.

      Lovely full flower, that specimen. Thank you.

          1. The Sick Rose

            O Rose, thou art sick:
            The invisible worm,
            That flies in the night
            In the howling storm,

            Has found out thy bed
            Of crimson joy;
            And his dark secret love
            Does thy life destroy.

            William Blake – 1757-1827

        1. I bought a mini pot rose in Home Bargains last September, for 9 pence (it was looking very sad and dry!) and looked after it over winter! After repotting it, we’ve been rewarded with the most beautiful creamy pink/orange blooms with a slightly peachy scent.

    3. Very nice. I planted a load of spring bulbs in my rose garden yesterday to provide some colour before the roses get going.

    5. I rescued a Rose de Rescht this year – my late cousin gave it to me years ago and I neglected it. This year I repotted it and it has repaid the care with a succession of highly scented flowers and looks much healthier.

  87. Spent the afternoon sitting in the garden, it was quite warm.
    Now the Anglo Saxon Queen has the oven on and uncorked a decent French wine to have with Moussaka, Olive Bread and Greek salad with extra feta cheese, it had to be French wine. It would be nice to eat in the garden later but it’s not bright enough and getting chilly now .

    1. MB has treated himself to a kipper.
      There is a fish stall in Colchester that sells proper kippers, not those lurid orange things.

  88. Good afternoon all , my better 1/4 ( if you saw us together you would understand this ) and I are recently returned from a couple of days in Portsmouth, we went primarily to visit the Dockyards and the Mary Rose in particular, we visited about 10 years ago when the Mary Rose was shrouded in mist but the artefacts were engaging , since then the conservation of the structure of the Mary Rose has been completed and she stands (as opposed to leans) in full sight and just awesome in her presence. We spent 2 hrs in the museum looking at the artefacts and remains of the Tudor times that had been carefully curated and presented, we were left feeling both awed and somehow humbled when presented with the stark contrast between those times and the, almost sybaritic by contrast, privilege of living in the 21st century. I did note that the museum had made an half hearted attempt at wokery by making a point that the crew of the Mary Rose were truly diverse but had to admit only in a European sense.
    We then had a shuffle around the Victory, Nelson may well have had an unfortunate encounter with a French musket ball but I felt that was nothing like being a 6’ 2” bod on the 5’6” gun deck and the 4’ head room orlop deck, I came out of that visit walking like Quasimodo with 2mm less skin on my head and a bit of a temper.

  89. Good afternoon all , my better 1/4 ( if you saw us together you would understand this ) and I are recently returned from a couple of days in Portsmouth, we went primarily to visit the Dockyards and the Mary Rose in particular, we visited about 10 years ago when the Mary Rose was shrouded in mist but the artefacts were engaging , since then the conservation of the structure of the Mary Rose has been completed and she stands (as opposed to leans) in full sight and just awesome in her presence. We spent 2 hrs in the museum looking at the artefacts and remains of the Tudor times that had been carefully curated and presented, we were left feeling both awed and somehow humbled when presented with the stark contrast between those times and the, almost sybaritic by contrast, privilege of living in the 21st century. I did note that the museum had made an half hearted attempt at wokery by making a point that the crew of the Mary Rose were truly diverse but had to admit only in a European sense.
    We then had a shuffle around the Victory, Nelson may well have had an unfortunate encounter with a French musket ball but I felt that was nothing like being a 6’ 2” bod on the 5’6” gun deck and the 4’ head room orlop deck, I came out of that visit walking like Quasimodo with 2mm less skin on my head and a bit of a temper.

    1. Very close to me. You should have waved !

      The Marie Rose is fantastic. They have done a brilliant job. Did you see the little dog?

      If you have the ticket for multiple parts of the Dockyard, it’s valid for a year and you can come back as often as you want.

      Then of course lunch and cocktails on Gunwharf !

        2. Hatch, they called him. It got to me because he was the size of my then (and, as it happens, current) dog, so probably a terrier.

    2. I visited not long after it was recovered from the sea bed, in a covered dock not far from HMS Victory, if I remember correctly. It was enveloped in a continuous veil of water and leaning badly to one side. Some parts of the wreck were still in various factory ponds in Portsmouth. Some time later I saw a nice collection of artefacts in the Castle? museum at Southsea. It would be nice to see it all again.

    3. Perhaps the “attempt at wokery” could also have pointed out that Ottoman ships were diverse – mostly with European (especially English) slaves…

    4. It is nigh on 40 years since the Mary Rose was heaved out of the water.
      I can still remember that heart stopping moment when it slipped from the crane.

    6. Yo Datz

      The frigate that I was on entered Portsmouth Dockyard on the morning the Mary Rose was being raised: it was foggy/low sea mist

      Vertical vision was 92,000,000 miles, ie we could see the Sun

      Lateral vision was hand in front of your face,

      We could just see the tops of the foor gantries being used to do the hoisting

      Because of the fog, we launched the helo early and it went to RNAS Portland…………… which was not ‘Open” when the Helo arrived

      Our pilot had to ‘see’ ;the Captain of the HMS Osprey

      I was about 30years later, that I finally got to see the Mary Rose

    7. I saw the Mary Rose when she was still leaning, but I was fascinated by the objects recovered. I must make a return visit (but remember that the official car park will not be high enough for my current camper van any more than it was for my previous one).

        1. I suppose a woodworm could be said to have an attention span – particularly when boring through mahogany.

          1. Woodworm was the first creature that came to mind when he used “boring”.

            Given how rich Citroen1 is, I suppose I should have written attention span of a Texan oilman

      2. It is boring because we all know how dishonest we are. That’s if we’re prepared to be honest with ourselves, which is not that that common.

    2. Honesty always has to be qualified, and there is no such thing as complete honesty; like truth it is a subjective matter.
      Cowardice (does my bum look big in this?) or financial considerations (think of parents keeping their children on the car insurance) honesty has to be bent to circumstances. Whether it is the result of the client wishing to make money or the insurance company taking a cynical view of its customers, the result is opposing views of honesty influenced by very different needs of two halves of a commercial arrangement.

      1. It’s an interesting point.

        I lie habitually to insurance companies because I know they’re thieves, charlatans and scum who make me pay for other people.

        I am always honest with the wife because she deserves it and has earned my trust and respect. Yes, her bum does look big sometimes. Did she want cheap validation? Is she insecure? Then we can address that, because my affection for her is oceanic, not some daft stream.

    3. Dalrymple misses the plot; the change of position in the ‘True’ declaration was down to the researcher’s maoism/marxism, not logic.

  91. Funny Old World
    The FA and Southgate are having conniptions about a bit of booing of their racist kneeling for a career criminal yet they will be quite happy to go to the next World Cup in a country where the stadiums were built by slaves and LBQWERTY is a death sentence
    Double standards* or what??
    *Money,money,money………..

    1. Qatar acted as home and brokers for the Taliban. It will be poetic justice if they won an Islamic “blessing”

    2. Typical of the left, they can not bear an opposing pov. If you make your thoughts public, you have to accept that the public can express their thoughts too. As Cpl Jones would say, they don’t like it up ’em.

    3. It’d be vastly more interesting if they addressed it and said – “we respect all our fans, and their views are welcome. ”

      The more they fight it, the more they antagonise. What I find funny is that the fans don’t stay away and revoke their subs. That’s the doublestandard.

      1. Football fans just want to watch their teams play. I’m sure it’s a bit of an addiction, not mine, thankfully. At least the crowds (some at least) at PL matches boo at the kneeling and it’s just the media outlets, Sky/BBC or whatever, that cancel it acoustically. The Hungary game has been made a scapegoat only because the Hungarians ain’t Woke.

      1. Being already on the large side when I moved up to Grammar school I was put straight into the rugby team, there until I left. Brain seems ok, but I felt sorry for the teams we played against. I could see they were scared to tackle me in case I fell on them.

      2. “a season of kneeling by football players could lead to Osgood-Schlatter disease:”
        That’ll be down to the on-field collision between Peter Osgood and Franz Schlatter.

    5. Look, there is a knighthood on the line here, I’ll have you know. He’ll say anything the government darn well wants him to!

  92. Back home after an exhausting day.
    Two funerals today, first for a neighbour and the second for a life member of the bowls club. We had the wake for out former bowler in our clubhouse and vw and I acted as hosts to the family.

    1. Clubs such as yours are the life-blood of a community.
      Stalwarts who do things like the wake are the life-blood of those clubs.
      Respect!

      1. Of course. It’s a very sociable club. However, vw concentrated on teas & coffees for which there was a brisk trade. They supplied all the food and the family also supplied tea, coffee, sugar and milk and enough cake to feed an army. They left enough cake for our club finals weekend tomorrow and Sunday.

      1. No. He collapsed and died one night on his way to bed and wasn’t found until the following lunchtime.
        They still haven’t discovered the cause of death and they will try to establish it scientifically.

  93. Don’t be fooled – the new £100 contactless limit is really about killing off cash

    No one is calling for the contactless limit to be raised to £100 – it’s just yet another ploy to do away with physical pounds and pence

    SAM BRODBECK, Personal Finance Editor

    The march towards a cashless society continues unabated. The latest nail driven into the polymer coffin comes in the form of the new £100 limit for contactless card payments.

    The switch will be flipped in October, more than doubling the current £45 limit, previously raised in April 2020 from £30. Then, the country was in the darkest days of the pandemic. Little was known about how the virus spread, and it made complete sense to change the rules to cut the amount of time needed to be spent inside poorly ventilated, crowded supermarkets and the like.

    Eighteen months on, where is the clamour for ever-higher contactless payments? I’ve received no letters or emails calling for a campaign to make it easier to spend large amounts of money with no security measures whatsoever.

    Rishi Sunak, the Chancellor, said the move would “make it easier to pay safely and securely” and provide a “welcome boost” for retailers and shoppers. Fair enough – one of the Chancellor’s jobs is to get people to spend money on the high street and not on Amazon.

    But in what world does this change improve security? Unlike with Apple and Google Pay – uncapped contactless payment systems operated by mobile phone or smartwatch – there is no clever biometric scanning to confirm the identity of the cardholder. A £100 contactless limit really is a thief’s dream. As readers have commented, the risk is made greater as it appears the new higher cap will be applied automatically without the consent of customers.

    You need to speak to your bank if you want to opt out. You won’t be surprised to hear most major banks are not yet in a position to give their customers complete control over how their cards can be used. Lloyds, one of Britain’s biggest banking groups, is “actively looking at options” to give customers control, but at the moment you can only request a chip and PIN instead of a contactless card. HSBC and TSB have the same policy. Nationwide said it would let customers turn off contactless payments by going into a branch, ringing its call centre or using its online chat service.

    What about the new breed of digital-only banks? Starling said it was planning to let customers set their own limits, with Anne Boden, its chief executive, suggesting customers were already far more likely to use digital wallets with security measures for larger payments. Revolut was the most helpful. It said customers could either turn off the contactless function of their card via the app, or create a virtual card with a set spending limit.

    Of course, cards can be useful – when they work. But they weren’t much good last week when the Telegraph Money team descended on the local boozer only to find all the card machines broken. Luckily, a more traditionally minded reporter had the readies to hand (it can’t be a coincidence that he hails from Yorkshire).

    It is proof, if any were needed, that preserving the right to use cash remains absolutely crucial. We will keep campaigning to protect it, urging shops to continue accepting proper pounds and pence.

    Please do keep sending us your cash heroes and villains: keepcash@telegraph.co.uk

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/dont-fooled-new-100-contactless-limit-really-killing-cash/

    1. What really peees me off is they get you used to NOT entering your pin – then after a few months – they want it.

    2. What about tips for waiters, hairdressers, taxi drivers, etc.

      i always keep a few £1 coins handy for such purposes.

    3. If you were going to pay over £45 in cash anyway, making the limit £100 makes no difference, surely?

      1. The govt want to know where every penny of everyone else’s money goes, so they can tax it. But THEIR money won’t be under the same scrutiny – not in Panama.

          1. Won’t have a mattress Plum – We’ll all be on the streets while large immigrant families live in their purpose built houses, paid for by us.

  94. Don’t be fooled – the new £100 contactless limit is really about killing off cash

    No one is calling for the contactless limit to be raised to £100 – it’s just yet another ploy to do away with physical pounds and pence

    SAM BRODBECK, Personal Finance Editor

    The march towards a cashless society continues unabated. The latest nail driven into the polymer coffin comes in the form of the new £100 limit for contactless card payments.

    The switch will be flipped in October, more than doubling the current £45 limit, previously raised in April 2020 from £30. Then, the country was in the darkest days of the pandemic. Little was known about how the virus spread, and it made complete sense to change the rules to cut the amount of time needed to be spent inside poorly ventilated, crowded supermarkets and the like.

    Eighteen months on, where is the clamour for ever-higher contactless payments? I’ve received no letters or emails calling for a campaign to make it easier to spend large amounts of money with no security measures whatsoever.

    Rishi Sunak, the Chancellor, said the move would “make it easier to pay safely and securely” and provide a “welcome boost” for retailers and shoppers. Fair enough – one of the Chancellor’s jobs is to get people to spend money on the high street and not on Amazon.

    But in what world does this change improve security? Unlike with Apple and Google Pay – uncapped contactless payment systems operated by mobile phone or smartwatch – there is no clever biometric scanning to confirm the identity of the cardholder. A £100 contactless limit really is a thief’s dream. As readers have commented, the risk is made greater as it appears the new higher cap will be applied automatically without the consent of customers.

    You need to speak to your bank if you want to opt out. You won’t be surprised to hear most major banks are not yet in a position to give their customers complete control over how their cards can be used. Lloyds, one of Britain’s biggest banking groups, is “actively looking at options” to give customers control, but at the moment you can only request a chip and PIN instead of a contactless card. HSBC and TSB have the same policy. Nationwide said it would let customers turn off contactless payments by going into a branch, ringing its call centre or using its online chat service.

    What about the new breed of digital-only banks? Starling said it was planning to let customers set their own limits, with Anne Boden, its chief executive, suggesting customers were already far more likely to use digital wallets with security measures for larger payments. Revolut was the most helpful. It said customers could either turn off the contactless function of their card via the app, or create a virtual card with a set spending limit.

    Of course, cards can be useful – when they work. But they weren’t much good last week when the Telegraph Money team descended on the local boozer only to find all the card machines broken. Luckily, a more traditionally minded reporter had the readies to hand (it can’t be a coincidence that he hails from Yorkshire).

    It is proof, if any were needed, that preserving the right to use cash remains absolutely crucial. We will keep campaigning to protect it, urging shops to continue accepting proper pounds and pence.

    Please do keep sending us your cash heroes and villains: keepcash@telegraph.co.uk

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/dont-fooled-new-100-contactless-limit-really-killing-cash/

    1. 338420+ up ticks,
      Evening TB,
      He is seen in vid. taking his first flying lesson convinced by the pillow whisperer he can take off.

      I do believe he will eventually when the sh!te hits the fan
      and the member supporters realise just what they have been supporting / voting for.

    1. Are the arrivals wearing masks so we can’t see them laughing their heads off?
      No need to pay traffickers – their Govt is bringing us in themselves !! No ID, passports or whatever needed. Straight into heathcare, cash, houses, schooling, full infrastructure – – all our Christmases have come at once.

        1. I know. I forgot sarc at the end.

          I assume there will be a mobilty car for each of the disabled. No questions asked.

        2. 338420+ up ticks,
          Evening Hl,
          Aided & abetted by lab/lib/con coalition input,if they the coalition continue to receive herd support.

    3. The resettlement will cost £2.5 bn – – then how much every day after that? Along with the cost of the thousands arriving at Dover every month sat in hotels. Contribution – zilch – cost – bluddy enormous financially – . . . cost culturally ? – disastrous. – – English culture – – terminal.

      1. On borders News there was a segment on the Afghan “refugees” moving into the various towns and villages…

    4. Why do they have to be resettled in the UK? Why not a nearby country with a similar culture so they don’t have to ‘integrate’ into the British way of life – whatever that is these days.

      1. Why here? – because the Barcelona Agreement, signed in 1995 says we must welcome in the nations surrounding Europe ( inc N Africa ), ESPECIALLY muslim ones – without complaint – to wipe out, through mixed race breeding (all males on the dinghies ?) to eradicate WHITE Europeans.

        look at the tv adverts – and think of Blue Mink’s words in Melting Pot – – coffee coloured people by the score.
        EFFECTIVELY GENOCIDE OF WHITE PEOPLE.

  99. Predictably, when it included this story in its evening news bulletin, Radio 4 wheeled out an alarmist to disagree with the JCVI and to support vaccination for the young. I had an image of this woman in private wringing her hands and saying in creaky witch-like voice: “Jab them. Jab them all. Jab them now.”

    Jabbing the young is an ethical quandary, confused by mixed messaging

    Ministers need to do more than talk rhetorically about “learning to live with Covid”.

    TELEGRAPH VIEW • Saturday 3rd September 2021

    Yesterday, the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) declined to give the green light to the mass vaccination of all 12 to 15-year-olds, although it did widen the rollout to those within that group with underlying health conditions or vulnerable relatives. It determined that there was “insufficient” evidence to proceed with the wider programme, as the “margin of benefit” for the children was too small at this time.

    The Government, however, could still decide to offer this age group the jabs. The UK’s chief medical officers have been asked to further evaluate the risks and benefits “from a broader perspective”. This presumably means the impact upon education – including the threat of school closures or transmission to teachers – and societal factors, including transmission to older people. The argument goes that children will benefit in the round if their education is not disrupted.

    Critics of the mass vaccination of the young would counter that there is little evidence that schools are a major hub of transmission, and that while vaccination is usually meant for the benefit of the individual being jabbed, children are at minimal risk from Covid. The situation is ethically complex and, however it chooses to proceed, the Government’s underlying rationale must be clearly communicated.

    Unfortunately, as we head into winter, the Government has been poor at communicating its overarching plan† to avoid further lockdowns. It needs to do more than talk rhetorically about “learning to live with Covid”, and explain to the public its strategy for how normal life can continue in the context of a disease that is likely to become endemic.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2021/09/03/jabbing-young-ethical-quandary-confused-mixed-messaging/

    † Plan? The government doesn’t have a plan for anything, at least not one of its own making that is founded on conservative ideas. It’s led by a cabal of mad ‘advisers’ and activists with a fatally flawed understanding of the human species and a hatred of history and tradition.

    1. If that was the same I heard there was a comment made, as deliberately misleading as the “xxx people have died within 28 days of a + result” – – it was something like xxx thousand pupils were off school due to Covid related concerns – – NOT that they had Covid – so when one + result – and the whole year was sent home – – THAT inflated the figure to what the screamers wanted it to be.
      They may as well get the USA to nuke this island out of existence – it will be the only thing to solve everything at one go – and be quicker and more humane than what they are doing to us now.

    2. Perhaps, an enterprising (and ‘puter literate) Nottler could open a petition, along the lines of

      Likening the population being forced to have Covid Vaxx Injections’ ,to the medical experiments carried out by Narsties in WWII

      The Cabinet as a whole MUST be made responsible, with Janus Johnson being singled out as the (mis)manager of the whole sags

    3. I think jabbing young people who are not at risk from this virus, just to possibly prevent spreading it to other people is totally unethical and there should be no question of forcing people to have it. The risks for them outweigh any benefit to themselves and they should not be used to protect other people.

      2. The argument being used yesterday was that children should be jabbed in order to prevent school closures!

        Utterly preposterous. I translate that as “teachers’ unions will force school closures if children aren’t jabbed”.

        1. They should stop the obsessive testing of healthy children and let them live. Any sick kids should be kept home for a few days. Whatever happened to common sense?

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