Wednesday 20 October: Government grants for heat pumps will help the wealthy, not the planet

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516 thoughts on “Wednesday 20 October: Government grants for heat pumps will help the wealthy, not the planet

    1. Morning all.

      And very heavy rain at 5.15! On way to LHR to take daughter and granddaughter. Returning to UAE after flying visit to Woking (us), Cheshire (other parents), Birmingham (to see other daughter at Brum university), Bath university to look around for next year, back to us last night.

    1. It looks like one needs a lot more components for this system compared to the old gas boilers, what could possibly go wrong ?

        1. As with HS2 and Covid, it has much less to do with public need, and a great deal to do with transferring huge amounts of national assets and money generated by artificially cheap borrowing into the clutches of favoured cronies.

          I refuse to believe that it has anything whatsoever to do with protecting the environment, although the propagandists are constantly shouting Green at us. They know the real problems with the environment, but these measures do diddly squat to sort them out, and may be making it much worse.

        2. For when the gas prices really go up, I wonder if it is possible to convert a gas fired Rayburn to wood?

          1. I think so. A new fire basket would be required, and other stuff. Usually the conversion is the other way round so probably possible.
            Here is someone on eBay that can help, I think. His address details are given so you can probably find him outside of eBay.
            https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114866921547?ViewItem=&item=114866921547&category=0&ssPageName=ADME:B:SEMK:UK:SHOWI&emailtemplateid=146081471&sellerid=eJGfcJBwsRIzoExzkAOKGA==&buyerid=FpRekKD1aqDCdhlWwwYiEQ==&refid=store

        3. Mr Rigsby doesn’t mention the problem in finding maintenance engineers who are skilled and experienced with

          heat pumps. Only one in our area although he is reasonably priced.

    1. Strange that with all the Prime Minister’s noise about heat pumps that there is no news of one being installed at No. 10 or Chequers.

          1. The installation would be hugely disruptive and damaging to an old place like no 10. It might be possible to find a corner to hide one at Chequers.

          2. Surely no problem at Chequers – as Mrs Smug pointed out in her DT letter [yesterday] a ground source heat pump “only” needs 2 x 160ft. trenches to be dug!!

  1. ‘Morning, Peeps,

    What a survivor!

    Peter Jinks, Swordfish air gunner who survived five crashes in the Mediterranean and Atlantic – obituary

    Despite joining the ‘Goldfish Club’, he flew many successful missions, including convoy escorts and Allied landings in Africa and Italy

    By
    Telegraph Obituaries
    19 October 2021 • 11:40am

    Peter Jinks, who has died aged 99, was a schoolmaster whose wartime flying career was jinxed.

    Jinks’s most serious accident occurred on September 22 1943 on board the escort carrier Battler off Gibraltar. The sea was calm and sparkled in the sunshine as his Swordfish, flown by New Zealand sub-lieutenant Percy Craig, made a long, steady run-in for a perfect landing with the hook down ready. The plane caught the first arrestor wire but, in a misunderstanding, was waved off.

    Craig applied full throttle, but the aircraft stalled and crashed over the side, where it hung half in and half out of the water. It was battered against the ship’s side before falling into the sea, just missing Battler’s thrashing propeller. Jinks recalled: “After the noise and turmoil of the last couple of minutes it seemed peaceful as we drifted clear, gently sinking in the warm waters of the Mediterranean.”

    Jinks and Craig scrambled on to the upper wing, where a dinghy was stowed, but found it too mangled. Fortunately, one of the ship’s Carley floats was entangled in the wreckage – but climbing into it, they realised that they were about to be pulled underwater until Jinks used his knife to cut the raft free.

    Within 15 minutes they were picked up by a boat from the cruiser Carlisle and returned to Battler, where, Jinks recalled, the only counselling was double brandy. However, he was enrolled in the Goldfish Club: members wear a special badge showing a white-winged goldfish flying above two symbolic blue waves.

    Peter Charles Jinks was born on September 21 1921 and educated at Leicester Grammar School. He had always yearned to fly, and though he was in a reserved occupation as a fitter at a local machine tool manufacturer, in November 1939 he volunteered to be a Telegraphist Air Gunner and trained at HMS Kestrel, the Royal Naval Air Station at Worthy Down, near Winchester.

    He recalled his first flight: “I had a large grin on my face and enjoyed every minute, noisy, windy and looking down on the world from a low altitude. This was real flying!”

    He was appointed to 771 Naval Air Squadron (NAS) based at Hatston in the Orkneys, where one of his first pilots was a youthful midshipman, Peter Twiss, “who likes to throw the aircraft about a bit”; postwar Twiss became Fairey Aviation’s chief test pilot and the first man to fly at more than 1,000 mph.

    Jinx’s first accident came in March 1942 when landing on the escort carrier Archer at the end of a dusk patrol. His Swordfish biplane, piloted by a sub-lieutenant Pratt, bounced over all the restraining wires and ran into the crash barrier.

    On May 14 he crashed again, heavily damaging the undercarriage, and six days later his Swordfish came in too low and wiped off the undercarriage on the round-down (the rear end of the flight deck). It ploughed along the wooden deck and stopped with the nose hanging over the ship’s side. After the crew had climbed out safely, the wreckage was pushed over the side.

    Still in Archer, in the Atlantic, Jinks’s fourth accident came when his Swordfish landed safely but the arrestor wire hydraulics failed and his aircraft again ran into the crash barrier: there it stuck nose down, tail up.

    There were also successful operations, and in 834 NAS, Jinks took part in Atlantic convoy escorts, the Allied landings in North Africa and Italy, and in January 1943, after the aircraft had been painted matt black, anti-E-boat operations in the English Channel. Later, the squadron developed Combined Attack Team tactics, whereby cannon-armed Seafire and two Swordfish – one armed with depth charges and another with rockets – would hunt for U-boats.

    Battler was redeployed to the Indian Ocean, where Jinks experienced a final accident, on December 15 1943, after several hours on anti-U-boat patrol; they became lost, and glided to a crash-landing in the dunes on the island of Socotra. After walking for two days they found a Dutch naval airbase, whence they were returned by sea via Aden and Bombay to Ceylon, and eventually to Britain.

    Postwar, Jinks trained on a one-year emergency training scheme to become a teacher, and for many years taught at primary schools, finishing as headmaster of Eldene in Swindon. On his 80th birthday he enjoyed a 15-minute flight in a Swordfish of the Navy’s Historic Flight.

    Peter Jinks married Audrey Jordan in 1949. She and a daughter predeceased him and he is survived by two daughters and son.

    Peter Jinks, born September 21 1921, died July 21 2021

    1. What an incredible life. I just caught the tail end of the teachers who had served in the war when I was at school – it was when they retired during the 80s that the Blob was able to take over.
      Our primary school head had been in the Navy – we used to have tables on flash cards, and if you got the answer wrong, you had to line up against the wall to be shot at the end of the morning. He always gave everyone second and third chances, so nobody ever got shot….I’m pretty sure everyone knew their tables by the time they left the school.

      1. Good morning BB

        I can remember a few very strict teachers , probably similar to yours .. one in particular was a tall lanky geography teacher who also taught RE, the rumour was that he had been a POW in Burma . He certainly brought substance and great input to his lessons , a very good man , and we also had a very strict and thorough lady maths teacher who had been a Wren during the war … a plotter I think , and although maths and algebra really confounded me , she was an excellent role model , and amazingly patient and kind .

        1. How coincidental, Maggie, my geography teacher, who also taught RE, was a PoW on the island of Java – hence his nickname. Both he, Mr Jolly, and my history teacher, Don Houghton, were ex-servicemen and stood for no nonsense in class.

          I think they both get a mention in my autobiography.

          1. The teacher who made me interested in maths was an ex-Lancaster pilot who had lost both legs. He had wooden ones and if he thought you weren’t paying attention he used to come and stand on your feet (he was a big man) making out he didn’t know. A great guy who used to tell us some of his wartime exploits particularly the crash in which he lost his legs.

          2. Those teachers, spikey, are no longer available to the great unwashed. All they get now is Common Purpose drivel and they are brainwahed.

            I despair at what the future looks like.

    2. I find those obituaries very depressing.
      Look around you at the brainwashed and the poltroons controlling them.
      Peter Jinks’ generation wasted their lives to ensure the birth and survival of the current dross.

      1. I have to agree, Anne, especially since my father fought in WWI and fiddled his way into WWII by learning the sight card before the medical.
        (1895 – 1955)

  2. Put the radio on earlier, the first words were covid project fear, I think we are on all systems go for lockdowns and vaccine passports in November.

    1. They’re getting very excited about it over on the Guardian because it represents “yet another failure by this Tory Scum Government”

      Downing Street Warns of ‘Challenging’ Winter, as Professor Lockdown Says ‘Plan B’ Could Bring Back Restrictions

      Downing Street has warned of a “challenging” Winter ahead, suggesting that restrictions in reserve such as domestic vaccine passports could be imposed if the number of cases gets too high. While Professor Neil Ferguson has said that a Plan B may need to be implemented if Covid cases increase.

      Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s spokesman said on Monday said that they are expecting an increase in Chinese coronavirus in the coming months and will be keeping a “close watch” on the figures, with Government adviser Professor Andrew Hayward claiming there was “huge potential for the NHS to come under a lot of pressure”.

      The Number 10 spokesman said, according to The Guardian: “We obviously keep very close watch on the latest statistics. We always knew the coming months would be challenging.
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      https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/10/19/downing-street-warns-challenging-winter-suggesting-restrictions-could-be-ahead/

      1. But where it falls down is that the same thing is happening in virtually every Western country and to what looks like a coordinated strategy.

      2. Firstly, the NHS is always under pressure in winter, so what? Secondly, why listen to the cretin Ferguson when he’s been wrong pretty much every time he prognosticates on a crisis – perhaps Boris wants to follow that particular science??

      3. Boris is trying to pre-empt the blame for a possible massive rise in Covid cases following Cop26 .As I understand it, he and N Sturgeon have not set any health protocols for those attending the conference nor for the hangers on and demonstrators. If there is such a surge in cases it will be at a bad time as the long Winter sets in. Both will be entirely responsible and there should be no Lockdown. We all should know now how to protect ourselves.

        1. Over 40,000 directly involved from all over the world with no checks or controls, including thousands of armed police from everywhere in the UK. Up to 100,000 protestors from who knows where with no hope of checks or controls. This is the most Covid risky event on the planet.
          This is presumably why the Italians chose to hold COP26 in Scotland rather than in Italy.

          1. How can it be deemed risky if they are asking households to let some of this multitude of visitors stay with them for the duration of the eco-loon beanfest?

            On a related matter, is there ‘no room at the inn’ as all the hotels have already been infested with ‘refugees’?

          2. Of course, those who take in protesting visitors will be safe. Covid can only be caught by us. All hotels in Glasgow are indeed packed with immigrants. Hence the two cruise ships “sailin’ up the Broomielaw” to provide accommodation for several thousand lower level attendees who are not booked into Gleneagles. That foreign built, foreign owned liners are coming up the Clyde provides a poignant reminder of our lost past that will resonate with some of us, but not, of course, with either the Scottish government, or the UK government.
            On the contrary, this action is almost certainly calculated to stick two fingers up to those of us who voted for Brexit – Cunard had no ships available?

            (What was left of UK shipbuilding was destroyed by the EU regulation that contracts had to be put out to tender, and by the illegal subsidies paid to shipyards in EU countries. As the UK government has consistently done, the EU rules were followed to the detriment our national security and our national interests, public and commercial.)

  3. 340306+ up ticks,
    Morning Each,

    World leaders in scams, truth be told, HS2 has hit the buffers in many respects and the covid issue is attracting to many awkward questions.

    Wednesday 20 October: Government grants for heat pumps will help the wealthy, not the planet

    Dt,
    Boris is courting political disaster by trying to guilt us into going green
    We were the birthplace of the Industrial Revolution, and now the Government wants us to pay the price

    Should read,
    The johnson is in court for political disasters by trying to guilt us into going green
    We were the birthplace of the Industrial Revolution, and now the Government wants us to pay the price……….. for our success,

  4. Today’s output from the Guardian propaganda department

    Climate crisis

    ‘Case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans

    Trawl of 90,000 studies finds consensus, leading to call for Facebook and Twitter to curb disinformation

    @jonathanwatts
    Tue 19 Oct 2021 16.00 BST

    The scientific consensus that humans are altering the climate has passed 99.9%, according to research that strengthens the case for global action at the Cop26 summit in Glasgow.

    The degree of scientific certainty about the impact of greenhouse gases is now similar to the level of agreement on evolution and plate tectonics, the authors say, based on a survey of nearly 90,000 climate-related studies. This means there is practically no doubt among experts that burning fossil fuels, such as oil, gas, coal, peat and trees, is heating the planet and causing more extreme weather.

    A previous survey in 2013 showed 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities are altering Earth’s climate.

    This has been updated and expanded by the study by Cornell University that shows the tiny minority of sceptical voices has diminished to almost nothing as evidence mounts of the link between fossil-fuel burning and climate disruption.

    The latest survey of peer-reviewed literature published from 2012 to November 2020 was conducted in two stages. First, the researchers examined a random sample of 3,000 studies, in which they found only found four papers that were sceptical that the climate crisis was caused by humans. Second, they searched the full database of 88,125 studies for keywords linked to climate scepticism such as “natural cycles” and “cosmic rays”, which yielded 28 papers, all published in minor journals.

    The authors said their study, published on Tuesday in the journal Environmental Research Letters, showed scepticism among experts is now vanishingly small.

    “It is really case closed. There is nobody of significance in the scientific community who doubts human-caused climate change,” said the lead author, Mark Lynas, a visiting fellow at Cornell University.

    This echoed the view expressed in August by the world’s leading scientific body, the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which said: “It is unequivocal that human influence has warmed the atmosphere, ocean and land.”

    The general public does not yet understand how certain experts are, nor is it reflected in political debate. This is especially true in the US, where fossil fuel companies have funded a disinformation campaign that falsely suggests the science is not yet settled, similar to the campaign by tobacco industries to cast doubt on the link between smoking and cancer.

    The paper cites a 2016 study by the Pew Research Center that found only 27% of US adults believed that “almost all” scientists agreed the climate emergency was caused by human activity.

    Many senior Republicans continue to cast doubt on the link between human activity and the climate crisis as market researchers have advised them to do since at least the presidency of George W Bush. According to the Center for American Progress, 30 US senators and 109 representatives “refuse to acknowledge the scientific evidence of human-caused climate change”. Several big media organisations and social networks also promote climate-sceptical views that have little or no basis in science.

    Lynas said the study should encourage them to review their policies. “This puts the likes of Facebook and Twitter in a quandary. It is pretty similar to vaccine misinformation; they both lack a basis in science and they both have a destructive impact on society. Social networks that allow climate misinformation to spread need to look at their algorithms and policies or to be forced to do so by regulators.”

    Some commentators have challenged the significance of a scientific consensus, saying it is a distraction from more pressing concerns. However, they say it is important for media organisations to avoid giving a false sense of balance by giving equal weight and coverage to for-and-against arguments. Most important, a consensus is seen as vital for a concerted international response to the climate crisis.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/19/case-closed-999-of-scientists-agree-climate-emergency-ca

    Mark Lynas got a degree in history and politics from Edinburgh. He has written for every lefty publication in the UK.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Lynas

    Just like stories about Hunter Biden’s laptop, they want to compel Big Tech to hide views and information that are inconvenient.

      1. Posted on Ar5ebook and it was immediately jumped on as ‘false facts’

        As expected. Corporal Jones, “They don’t like it up ’em.”

    1. If we do suppose that our human activity has a hand in global warming, how do we combat this? How do we minimise our influence going forward?
      Firstly, we have to determine the extent to which we are warming things up, relative to background changes we do not control and can never control. Next we have to analyse the mechanisms of warming that we do control. Then look at how they may be changed beneficially. The changes proposed need to be considered carefully. Will man-made global warming be reduced by building new factories to manufacture heat pumps? There is of course the question on how heat pumps reduce our contribution to global warming. I don’t see that their domestic use is any improvement on what we do now.
      Pushing ahead without making careful studies is wasteful, costly and stupid.
      A major area that needs to be looked at, in my humble opinion, is the albedo of the planet. The extent to which the heat of the sun is reflected will have an effect on global warming. We have seen the dramatic effect of volcanic ash in the upper atmosphere. An umbrella of darkness that Bill Gates wants to replicate.

      1. Gosh, who knew dinosaurs drove cars, flew in aeroplanes or covered the globe in factories?
        They really had it coming to them.

      2. Back in the ’80s I was saying that concreting over green fields was having an effect on the albedo. It was nothing like as bad then as it is now.

  5. Good morning from a dark, dank Derbyshire. Daylight is struggling to appear against the dull grey and overcast sky with rain forecast for most of the day.
    Still comparatively mild with 8°C in the yard though.

  6. ‘Morning again.

    Heat pumps – and at the time of writing the BTL comments are all hostile…

    SIR – You report (October 19) that those who can afford to replace their gas boiler with a heat pump will receive a £5,000 subsidy from the Government at a time when millions are facing fuel poverty.

    This gift to the well-off is nothing more than grandstanding in advance of Cop26. And, to rub salt into the wound, it will have no effect on the climate.

    Neil Bailey
    Stockport, Cheshire

    SIR – As a heating engineer I came across a number of air-source heat pumps and, without exception, their owners were dissatisfied. As Maja Dijkstra (Letters, October 18) says, they can be noisy, costly to run (particularly in cold weather) and often ineffective.

    As an alternative to gas boilers they are not the simple solution the Government appears to think they are.

    Tim Reavell
    Carmarthen

    SIR – Many densely built housing estates have sprung up around towns and villages in recent years. The houses tend to have between two and five bedrooms, and small enclosed gardens. Has the Government given any thought to the noise pollution that will result if they are all fitted with heat pumps?

    Gone will be the pleasure of sitting in the sun, or using the garden as an outdoor living room.

    Mike Hames
    Cradley, Herefordshire

    SIR – Elizabeth Jones (Letters, October 19) recommends ground-source heat pumps. But given that they require two 160ft trenches, I struggle to see how they can work anywhere but in the countryside.

    Pamela Wheeler
    Shrewsbury

    SIR – Living in a rural community with no gas supply, I installed an air-source heat pump 12 years ago and saw an immediate saving of £3,000 annually on heating oil, plus the benefits of Domestic Renewable Heat Incentive payments.

    It is not noisy, and the water produced – caused by the condenser – I collect to use on the garden. At the same time I fitted solar panels to reduce our electricity bills and they are currently earning 37 per cent interest on the initial investment.

    Roger Pinner
    Eltisley, Cambridgeshire

    SIR – Gas boilers are installed indoors, whereas a large part of a heat pump (the heat exchanger) is installed outside.

    This will provide a nice little earner for the thieves who currently steal catalytic converters from vehicles. While the installation of the heat exchanger might take a day or two, the theft would take minutes, leaving exposed electric wires and free-flowing water pipes. I have heard nothing about how this problem will be prevented.

    John Snook
    Sheffield, South Yorkshire

    * * *

    Leading BTLs:

    Carolyn Bates
    20 Oct 2021 12:47AM
    In response to all those up-in-arms about the continued net zero insanity.

    The complete disaster the Prime Minister is blindly inflicting on every single one of us is bad enough; that he is doing it without the consent or mandate of the British public is shocking.

    I am not sure when he morphed into this green collaborator, but I have never even heard him mention anything environmental until we gifted him the election with the added bonus of an eighty-seat majority.

    We all know that he is under the enormous influence of his liberal, woke, wife, but the sublime has now become the ridiculous. How many of us would have voted for him had we known this? Not many.

    That he has conned his way into No 10 as a Conservative when he is in fact a socialist is unprecedented; that those at the very top of the Party are sitting by, looking the other way as he brings the country to its destruction in front of our very eyes, is terrifying.

    We can be in no doubt that Johnson is a globalist as the £400 million of taxpayers’ money he gave to Bill Gates this week proves. His behaviour has been increasingly off since the Conservative Conference where it was shocking to witness his bizarre performances and demeanour.

    Unless we all begin writing to our MPs and contacting Conservative HQ, questioning why they are allowing this to happen, we will be as complicit as them, and I for one do not want to have to explain to my grandchildren, why I allowed this to happen on my watch.

    Brian Thorne
    20 Oct 2021 1:09AM
    @Carolyn Bates

    If Johnson continues down this path then it’s a possibility he will lose his seat at the next General Election anyway?

    He only had something like a 7,000 majority which could easily be overturned.

    Carolyn Bates
    20 Oct 2021 1:15AM
    @Brian Thorne We cannot wait until the next election because what will undoubtedly happen is that he will lose the election and, by the time that happens, he will have done so much damage to the Party and the country, that we will find ourselves in the political wilderness for years.

    I simply do not understand what those at the top of the Party are waiting for before they replace him. Just what has to happen?

      1. Ali Ali was a pawn of deep state. They can’t have someone with integrity in government. It shows the rest up for what they are.

    1. Roger Pinner is a very busy bee. I expect he makes Geoffrey Woollard choke on his sustainable muesli.

      Also..
      Boris Johnson no longer has any concerns about democratic elections. They….have been abolished.

    2. I don’t know how Roger Pinner managed to save £3000 on his oil bills; I don’t spend that much on my entire oil consumption for a year.

        1. I appreciate that, but Roger was talking about past savings, so the comparison is still valid.

  7. This man is dangerous and should be disbelieved on all topics. He doesn’t have a ruddy clue about any aspect of science.

    Moses of Climate Change Boris Says Climate Crisis Is Worse than Covid and We Have to Listen to the Science

    British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has declared himself the Moses of Climate Change, and said that global warming is worse than Covid and therefore “we have to listen to the scientists.”

    Speaking at the Global Investment Summit at the Science Museum in London on Tuesday, the prime minister claimed that free-market capitalism, which produced the world’s coronavirus vaccines, needed to be mobilised again to “face a challenge that is even bigger for humanity” and “a threat to our way of life that is ultimately far worse than COVID”: alleged manmade climate change.

    Referencing the COP26 climate change conference set to take place in Glasgow, Scotland, next month, the prime minister said: “In just a couple of weeks, the world will assemble in Glasgow. And I hope that many or all of you will be there.

    “Because the lesson of COVID is absolutely clear. We have to listen to the scientists. We need urgent government action.

    “But we must mobilise the markets. We must bring in the private sector.”

    Prime Minister Boris Johnson appeared to be attempting to convert the government’s ‘covid crisis’ strategy for the ‘climate crisis’.

    On analogous lines, Claire Fox, Baroness Fox of Buckley, predicted in exclusive comments to Breitbart London that governments would try to rebrand climate change a public health crisis in order to expand their powers, as they had done successfully during the Chinese coronavirus pandemic.

    Speaking to this publication during the Reform Party conference in Manchester earlier this month, the politically unaffiliated lawmaker — who previously served as a Member of European Parliament (MEP) for Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party — said: “I think you can expect to see a whole range of issues being dressed up as public health issues and I’ve even noticed that climate change has been posed as a public health risk rather than the green ideology.”

    Continuing: “I get very anxious, because I think public health legislation will be used quite considerably over a range of issues by the government to simply hold on to the powers they have at the moment.

    “If a government realises that when public health is deployed as the spectre to frighten people, then actually they can accumulate a lot of power for themselves without too much opposition.”

    Characterising himself as the Moses of Climate Change, Prime Minister Johnson continued that the “ten-point plan” of his “green industrial revolution” is “the new Decalogue that I brought down from Sinai last year, which is today being elaborated in our plan for net zero, to build back greener”, and presumably, Build Back Better.

    The prime minister also announced further details on his net-zero strategy on Tuesday, including pledging billions of pounds in investment to “green technologies” and “helping people with their boiler upgrades” to environmentally-friendly heat pumps.

    The controversial issue of ending the sale of gas boilers by 2035 was further made contentious when it was revealed that just 90,000 homes will get the £5,000 voucher to make the switch.

    “Utter nonsense, what is the point?” Brexit leader Nigel Farage remarked on the report.

    Johnson also announced from the Global Investment Summit a £400 million investment package with Bill Gates to boost environmentally-friendly technology, including that related to carbon capture, hydrogen technology, and zero-carbon aviation. Mr Gates said that he would be working with the British government to choose the projects to be supported by the new fund.

    1. First, Churchill and now Moses: how long before he compares himself with Yahweh? Folie de grandeur, anyone? We are in grave danger from this man and his ambitions.

  8. ‘Morning All

    Well the direction of travel is becoming all too clear for those that dare to look

    Your homes will become worthless/unsalable

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1450229229065474049?s=20

    “LONDON, Oct 19 (Reuters) – Home buyers will have to improve the energy

    efficiency of their properties as part of their mortgage requirements

    under new British government plans to make housing greener, the Times

    reported on Tuesday”

    https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/britain-link-mortgages-compulsory-green-home-improvements-times-2021-10-19/

    Central Bank Digital Currency to run parallel with the pound until hyperinflation destroys the pound and they have total control,money will “expire” at the end of every month

    Transport and travel?? LOLZ not for us

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ac38606242d87d2027a5c0c9637421397bdda927350e8a832de77c32f78fe920.jpg

    Food?? hows your social credit and vax status…………….

    They got it half right “You’ll Own Nothing”

    But I doubt you’ll be happy!!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/04d0e442f57eae65ab4cca3c0b1db309526ea7fbdacc19b7d5af0221a2c3dc54.jpg

    1. Well the direction of travel is becoming all too clear for those that dare to look

      Try to convince the people that you once considered were sensible that there’s more, much more to what’s going on than treating a “virus”. I’m finding it a real uphill struggle. Blank looks, looks of disapproval or the worst look of all, the one that silently tells you that they think you’re an idiot looking for a village. They have such a shock coming that I’m worried how they’ll handle the truth.

    1. The HoC regarded the manner of yesterday’s renewal of the Coronavirus Act as downright hilarious. They were a disgrace.

    2. I know those tw*ts in Westminster consider us voting fodder to be lower than a snake’s armpit but can’t they at least pretend to go through the democratic motions?

    3. As I understand it, the ’emergency’ powers were brought in during March 2020 and were intended to run until March 2022, with a review every six months on whether to bring these ’emergency’ powers to a halt, or not.

      I don’t know if the ‘reviews’ were binding or merely a sop to our former freedoms.

      I suggest that many a politician will be hoping to be elsewhere when the ’emergency’ powers finally cease and m’learned friends get to work on these shysters.

      On that point, I will be surprised if the politicians relent on the control they have assumed over our lives without an election or pitchforks and piano wire. We certainly can’t look to the Judas-like media for assistance.

  9. 340306+ up ticks,

    May one ask,
    Is it NOT time for the herd to request an emergency General Election, rephrased that as in request a General Election
    VERY LOUDLY OR ELSE manner

      1. 340306+ up ticks,
        Morning N,
        IMO wrong question, but my answer would be “who won’t we vote for” the vote for the best of the worst of the lab/lib/con close shop over decades has had continuing odious consequences as in mass murder,
        mass paedophilia, ongoing mass uncontrolled immigration totally wrecking
        the infrastructure, education,education,incarceration,accommodation
        as clearly witnessed.

        Post after erasing the 650 politico’s in the main
        anything with a will of integrity about it would surely be acceptable to what we are receiving currently

        1. I will never ever vote Labour, nor will I waste my vote on the Libdumbs .

          If I were a very wealthy bod, I wouldn’t care about voting anyway . I would feel immune to government policies .

          The political climate in the UK has changed , not one party has the best interests of this wonderful country in their hearts.

          We are all confused , and no one is listening to any of us , the government machinery is operating on a slow slow quick quick slow method, and Boris is just a waggy dog .

    1. I fear that if a GE is ever again allowed it will be held under restrictions because of “covid”, i.e. 100% postal ballot. Can’t have people mingling at the polling stations etc. We know what the outcome would be.

      1. 340306+ up ticks,
        Morning KtK.
        At this moment in time the decent elements of the herd are hog tied.

        Ask nicely then go for
        request a General Election
        VERY LOUDLY OR ELSE manner
        because this is ALL going to end in tears GUARANTEED.

        Ps,
        Feel privileged you have found favour with MY personal down voter.

    2. If there were to be a GE in 4 months time, the party shouting the strictest and most extravagant Green measures (probably Boris), would get in on the back of votes from brainwashed younger folk.

      1. 340306+ up ticks,
        Morning M,
        I have no illusions about that but Not only the young, but remember 48% chose incarceration.

        Full circle will be achieved when a Churchillian chap steps into the odious breach in the Nations wall created by the lab/lib/con (ino) coalition & supporters.

        The brainwashed are going to have to serve one of two masters, the chinks or the camel jockeys.
        The black comedy today cannot be bested
        the chinese are flying nuclear devices over the brainwashed heads and the islamic ideology has a strong toehold in parliament even to the extent of the parliamentary canteen menu, let the brainwashed chew on them facts.

  10. Steerpike
    COP out: jet-setting of top mandarins revealed
    19 October 2021, 7:35pm

    The world is gearing up for COP26, the UN’s climate change conference in Glasgow, due to be held in less than a fortnight’s time. Ahead of the eco-jamboree, ministers and mandarins have been busily telling the rest of us how to live, with the Treasury today unveiling the truth about how much going green will cost: the Net Zero target means by 2030 we can expect to pay £45,000 for a new electric car while the replacement for a gas boiler by 2035 should be between £6,000 to £10,000. Ooft.

    Still, while the government has suggested saving the planet by not rinsing plates before putting them in a dishwasher or freezing, rather than throwing out, half-used loaves of bread, other Whitehall apparatchiks seem far less keen on such measures. A Freedom of Information request by Mr S has revealed the extent to which so-called ‘climate change diplomats’ have been enjoying jet-setting around the globe at the expense of the taxpayer. At least 45 flights have been taken by senior officials alone in just the outward-facing diplomatic roles in Cabinet Office’s COP26 Unit – at an estimated cost of £53,780.

    The FOI request, which was sent May 18, only covers up until 9 June and was not sent until 1 October – nearly five months later. Senior officials referred to in the ‘outward-facing diplomatic roles’ include the COP26 CEO Peter Hill, the Lead Negotiator Archie Young, the UK COP26 Envoy John Murton and the Deputy UK COP26 Envoy Elinor Wakefield. Sadly for Steerpike, the COP26 Unit refused to release a breakdown of flights to Mr S when he went to them for comment, meaning a climate footprint map of such largesse will not be revealed until a future date – presumably some five months down the line.

    It’s worth noting that these flights *exclude* the 30 trips taken by COP President Alok Sharma, previously reported in August, and other ministerial colleagues too. They also do not include separate climate change diplomats employed by the Foreign Office whose flights will be the subject of a different FOI request.

    Steve Baker, leader of the Net Zero Scrutiny Group of MPs, told Mr S that: ‘Those loudest advocates of austere lifestyles for others never seem to think the same rules apply to them. It’s clear to me that if climate policies fail to improve living standards, they will flounder on the rocks of a massive public backlash.’

    A spokesperson for the government said: ‘Helping the world tackle the climate emergency is an international priority for the Government. Virtual meetings play an important role, however face to face meetings have been crucial in securing success in the negotiations the UK is leading as hosts of COP26 and are key to understanding and seeing first-hand the opportunities and challenges other countries are facing in the fight against climate change.’

    Will actions speaker louder for the COP26 Unit come the long-awaited Glasgow summit?

    *****************************************

    Katy Hibbert • 12 hours ago
    If Boris doesn’t do a reverse ferret on the green cr@p he’s toast. OK, his babymomma won’t sh@g him, but he can look elsewhere – wouldn’t be the first time and they won’t last anyway.

    Assuming that he will be toast fairly soon, a canny Tory, perhaps with a “protected characteristic” – Kemi Badenoch springs to mind – could make hay on an anti-Green ticket. The formely Red Wall would bite her hand off, and the smug, prim hypocrites of Amersham and Chesham don’t really buy the green cr@p, as they all jet off to their Tuscan villas and have a 4 by 4, along with their e-bikes.

    1. I like the sound of Katy Hibbert. I wonder if she’s looking for a friend. I have lost all mine due to my views.

      1. I feel your pain. I’ve given up expressing my views these days – people just look at me oddly and edge away.

        1. I get that too – they simply cannot get their heads around it, even the simplest concept. It is too much for them.

  11. I understand that every dwelling must be fitted with a heat pump.

    Given that there must be, what, 60 million dwellings in the UK – who is to fit them?

    And they run on electricity, right? As we have insufficient electricity NOW to cope with a cold spell – where on earth is all this EXTRA electricity going to come from? And what about the 20 million electric cars….??

    Just asking – as a puzzled pensioner.

    1. At least you’re asking the right questions, as sensible people tend to do. The problem we have is that we are in a minority and these important issues just wash over the majority of people. Realisation, when it arrives, will be a catastrophe for the majority.

    2. Someone yesterday worked out at 30,000 a year fitted – would take 833 years! Perhaps they are expecting a population reduction by 2035.

      1. Estimated at 50M homes and 14 years to reach the target by 2035 results in a requirement to fit more than 3.5M a year on average!

        Is it too early for the cuckoo?

    3. Silly boy.
      Only detached houses with more than 6 bedrooms and at least three acres will qualify for government/taxpayer subsidy.
      Only the 5,000 most important people in the country will be permitted full time access to electricity and to travel freely.
      To be allowed a heat pump you must be able to show an after tax income of £100,000 and net wealth of 5 million.

    4. Anyone who tries to forcibly remove my boiler is going to get coughed on. With extreme prejudice.

    5. I doubt that I will live long enough to see them being installed in the Shard and high-rise blocks of flate.

      The cabling for heat pumps and the EV chargers, at every house in UK house in UK, will be “not without Interest”. the Chinese say

      1. Funny you mention the Shard and the Chinese in the same post. It was the Chinese who financed it.

        The Shard has a state of the art heating, cooling and filtration system already in place.

        Given how long it takes to plan and build such a building we can be sure they already knew which way the wind was blowing. (Sorry).

    1. Allah’s army is here to stay
      Allah’s army are on their way
      And I would rather be anywhere else
      But here today

    2. The hungry sheep look up, and are not fed,
      But, swol’n with wind, and the rank mist they draw,
      Rot inwardly, and foul contagion spread:
      Besides what the grim wolf with privy paw
      Daily devours apace, and nothing said.

      [John Milton: Lycidas]

      Literature is full of ‘wise saws‘ – and modern instances which can be applied with as much relevance today as they had centuries ago.

      It is little wonder that the ignorant in politics and education want to eliminate Milton and Shakespeare from the syllabus.

      1. Milton, Shakespeare and the like, may cause too many people (who can read) to take pause, Richard.

        1. I never took any interest in Literature, it bored the pants off me. I got 1% in the mock GCE for writing my name, I did not take the real GCE. Being a Philistine it still bores me to tears
          Apologies to Richard

  12. 40 minutes of tidying up the “garden” and the rain began. I think it’s probably as close to full daylight as we’re likely to get at the moment.
    I recently moved one of my composting bins away from where I’m building the latest wall, revealing a decent amount of decently rotted compost that I just levelled off and dumped a load of topsoil on top of to bring it at least partway level with the new height of the wall.
    The bin is now being refilled.
    A 2nd bin will be moved to where the old bin was, once a few more bags of topsoil have been tipped to level that area off, hopefully before the hibernation season begins.

      1. I wish I could and then wake up once the madness has ended.
        I’ve no idea what, if anything at all, hibernates in the compost bins, but I want to ensure that anything that does is as safe as possible.
        A 3rd bin, that I’ve often found slow worms in, is being left undisturbed until Spring.

  13. Not Cancer

    Dear Sir,
    The results from the laboratory confirm that the red ring around your penis was not cancerous. It was lipstick.

    We apologise for the amputation.

    Yours sincerely
    Dick Less, MB, FRCS.

    1. An old one – I must have been a schoolboy when first I heard it – but nevertheless far too obscene for the puritanical and the fastidious whose sensitivities I have protected with a spoiler.

      A Welshman who came from Caerphilly
      Discovered red spots on his willy
      But the doctor, a cynic, said
      “Out of my clinic
      And wipe off the lipstick you silly!”

        1. Why didn’t you use the spoiler? I put it in in order to protect the delicate sensibilities of people such as yourself!

  14. With the rain stopping play outside, I suppose I’d better get my pen and roll of sticky labels out for the 9 jars of apple & quince chutney I did yesterday.

    Does anyone fancy a go at growing their own quince bush from seed? I’ve a load to share with anyone who’d like to try.

    1. A generous offer but i don’t think i have enough years left before the first harvest. :@(

  15. Tim Stanley, a DT journalist and to my mind a nice person with a sense of humour, was on GBNews last night with Nigel Farage. NF asked him what he thought of our Boris. I paraphrase his reply – “If the world is heading to go over a cliff, BJ is determined that the UK will be first to go over.”

  16. Tim Stanley, a DT journalist and to my mind a nice person with a sense of humour, was on GBNews last night with Nigel Farage. NF asked him what he thought of our Boris. I paraphrase his reply – “If the world is heading to go over a cliff, BJ is determined that the UK will be first to go over.”

  17. Good morning, my friends

    Hoodagesstit again this morning?

    The DT is still as partisan and anti-Trump as ever:

    Steve Bannon should face criminal contempt charges over Capitol riot, says US House committee
    Panel votes in favour of prosecuting Donald Trump’s former aide, who has refused to give evidence to the Jan 6 inquiry

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/10/20/steve-bannon-should-face-criminal-contempt-charges-capitol-riot/

    The conclusion of this article shows just where the DT’s sympathies lie. The events of January 6th were completely misreported at the time and the only person who died was not killed by the so-called “rioters” and yet the DT describes the event as “the worst attack on the US government since the War of 1812.”

    What a load of hyperbollocks!

    1. Good morning.

      I watched the video of the so called rioters entering the building. No pitchforks or burning torches prevalent. In fact, they ambled in admiring the view while security just stood and watched.

      1. They did. They were looking around with curiousity, deffo not a riot. It was almost like someone had opened the door and said “do come in a take a look”, such was there demeanour.

  18. Our plans in the Diocese of Leicester are not as radical as he thinks, and his idea that all diocesan staff should be sacked shows
    little understanding of the law or good practice. Devolving these functions to parishes would cost more and add extra burdens to already
    overstretched clergy.

    Rt Rev Martyn Snow Bishop of Leicester

    An MRD moment

      1. I love the various SR71 spy plane stories, but there is one by the pilot discussing what would happen if the crew were shot down and captured. I’m just the driver mutters the pilot, the guy you want is the spy in the back seat!

    1. Yo Kaypea

      Telegraphist Air Gunners were not Orficers

      The man in the picture, from his cap badge is a Petty Officer

    2. I’m more concerned about public health officials wearing military uniforms. Looking more and more like North Korea every day.

    3. Yo Kaypea

      https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/10/19/18/49372361-10107457-Rachel_Levine_left_became_the_nation_s_first_transgender_four_st-a-11_1634664028620.jpg
      Rachel Levine (left) became the nation’s first transgender four-star admiral on Tuesday when she was sworn in by Vice Admiral Vivek Murthy of the U.S. Surgeon General’s office (right)

      Would it be insensitive to ask if Admiral Murthy of the Surgeon General’s office was the one who had to chop it off?

      1. Richard Levine. The man who tells Americans that they shouldn’t use ivermectin to treat covid because, “You’re not a horse”. No luv and you’re not a woman either. Grrrr!!

      2. I may sound worldly , but I am not, so what do they mean by transgender ..is it some one with out defined sexy bits and pieces , and how do they sound , and are their brains wired up differently?

        1. It’s so simple, Maggie.
          Every single one of a trannie’s 37 trillion cells have been reprogrammed from XY to XX.
          Just like that!

          1. Just like that!

            So spake Tommy, the wag, Cooper

            ‘cos the whole thing is another part of the dictatorship’s plan into duping us to believe that their mutterings are truth and MUST be obeyed without question.

        2. Meddling with their genitalia only effects the voice if done before puberty. I know a middle aged “trans-woman” who was only recently castrated and still has a deep un-mistakenly masculine voice. Likewise there’s a woman at work who self-identifies as a man but still has very feminine hips, hands and voice. A tomboy yes but not a man.

          Given the opportunity – at a Friends do at the Wigmore Hall – I asked an Oxford Professor of Psychology if the human brain is hard wired. She said no, it isn’t. That being so, humans can change their behavioural patterns?

      3. The West really has a death wish.
        There are times when I can understand the ayatollahs’ derision.

  19. Isn’t democracy just swell!

    Steerpike
    Watch: MPs extend the Coronavirus Act without a vote
    20 October 2021, 8:13am

    Throughout the uncertain days of the pandemic, a few things have remained constant: Devi Sridhar will tweet too much, Sadiq Khan will flip-flop a lot and MPs will, once again, vote to extend the draconian provisions of the Coronavirus Act.

    The emergency legislation was rammed through Parliament in March 2020 to give the government emergency powers to limit or suspend public gatherings, detain individuals suspected to be infected by Covid and to intervene or relax regulations across a swathe of sectors to limit transmission of the disease. Not for nothing did Steve Baker warn of a ‘dystopian society’.

    Having been renewed in March this year for a further six months, MPs yesterday voted again for another six month extension. However unlike the previous parliamentary division – which saw MPs split by 484 to 76 to extend the legislation – this one did not even go to a vote. Instead Deputy Speaker Rosie Winterton allowed a simple voice vote in which she asked the House to approve the extension and which was met with a chorus of ‘Ayes’ followed by various ‘Noes.’ The loud cry of protest from Sir Desmond Swayne prompted Winterton to gently rebuke the Covid Recovery Group stalwart:


    Madam Deputy Speaker: I am afraid I fear the mood of the House is not to have a vote. The right hon. Gentleman would have to rustle up a few more people to really get the sense that we required a vote—

    Sir Desmond Swayne: The just shall live by faith.

    Madam Deputy Speaker: I am sure they will. The Ayes have it.

    https://youtu.be/-pHX75wpGys

    Steerpike wonders how many more times such ’emergency’ legislation can be extended before it becomes routine.

    ************************************************************

    Tibbs Portland Cushion • an hour ago
    Becomes routine? This is life now this is the reality, the population has allowed its freedom to be taken away by a thousand cuts, all for protection from a virus which kills the average age of 83, and which 99.94% of the population survive, and for which they have now all been bar coded like cattle such that their health can be tracked like cattle. What a legacy this cowardly generation has bequeathed to its Children and Grand children, a world of monitoring and their lives dictated by fat, hubristic suits in Whitehall. My Father and millions sacrificed their lives for this generation, and through fear this generation has thrown it away for false protection. There is no turning back now

    Stephen Skinner • an hour ago
    “It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.” – T. Sowell

    1. So much for democracy – such important decisions should ALWAYS be subject to a vote! [Not that the spinless, “my career first” wanquers would have said No, but even so]

    2. Good morning!

      Then, having allowed the murder of a good man who would have opposed this, they demand to be further protected from the populace they’re hell-bent on destroying.

  20. Hells Bells! Staggers back in amazement!
    Went to put the old newspapers in the bin for recycling 15 min ago and it was chucking it down.
    Now, not only has the rain stopped, the sun is out!!

  21. Good Moaning.
    Turned out nice again.

    On a less happy note, watching yesterday’s performance, I think we can now declare Johnson officially insane.

    1. I am astounded that the cretin can actually bring himself to read the garbage – because he cannot possibly believe a word of it.

      1. Does he employ Joe Biden as a script writer? It was aumsing to hear Darren Grimes on GB News yesterday evening refer to “Carrie Antoinette”.

      2. He doesn’t understand any of it so doesn’t realise that it’s garbage – the chipmunk Nut nuts feeds him his lines.

    2. Didn’t see it don’t watch news or PM ?s. There’s more to life. However I think his sanity has been long gone. Who will rid us of this troublesome PM? Caught a clip of the non vote for continued covid restrictions and am utterly disgusted (yet again) with the behaviour of MPs. Childish is too kind a word for it.

      1. I caught glimpses of the performance – before MB quickly switched channels.
        There is definitely something amiss when even the Greater Spotted Telly Addict turns away from the news.

    3. As is expected of me I shall quote from Shakespeare:

      In this case it is Polonius who is talking to Claudius about the mental health of his stepson, Hamlet

      I will be brief: your noble son is mad.
      Mad call I it, for, to define true madness,
      What is ‘t but to be nothing else but mad?

      1. I missed out on the bard at school apart from Hamlet which I loved.
        At fifteen I was more into boys than dull and dry Shakespeare…

        1. I ‘did’ Romeo and Juliet.

          Drove me crazy. We had to listen to the whole play on a dozen or so records. All characters voiced by two croaky old octogenarians. I felt like burning the school down.

          And then God had mercy on me. I went to the Nuffield Theatre and watched Franco Zeffirelli’s film of the play.

          It was only because of that that i passed my O Level.

    4. As is expected of me I shall quote from Shakespeare:

      In this case it is Polonius who is talking to Claudius about the mental health of his stepson, Hamlet

      I will be brief: your noble son is mad.
      Mad call I it, for, to define true madness,
      What is ‘t but to be nothing else but mad?

      1. 340306+ up ticks,
        Morning P,
        Let him, holding the priti one’s hand view their handiwork from the top of Shakespeare cliff
        then take a beneficial step for English mankind in the direction of france.

        fr

          1. 340306+ up ticks,
            P,
            I’ll give you a musical clue,ready,
            🎵
            Roll me over down in DOVER roll me over ,lay me down & do it again.

          2. 340306+ up ticks,
            Afternoon P,
            The way the political appeasers are handing city’s over to future overseers
            First city ( London) irretrievably,
            Second city ( brum) conversion well in progress.

            We will shortly be in dire straights with
            indigenously inhabited city’s to call our own, then towns, then villages, then hamlets, then good night Vienna.

    5. I think you’re right Anne. All this clap trap about ground source and air source heat pumps he doesn’t have effing clue what he’s talking about.
      How many carbon busters in private jets are turning up in Glasgow ? Even Vlad has the sense to stay away from it all.

      1. Do the Elite really believe all this, or is it just a smokescreen for something else going on?

    6. It’s quite clear the our PM is suffering from river syndrome. He’s wet wet wet, as in completely insane and most of the rest of the time in denial.

    1. Refusing to accept new comments – but not saying so. The Dreary Fail has turned hard left with the change of editor.

      1. …and their adverts make reading the articles near impossible.

        I suggest, please, boycott this pseudo- publication.

        1. I use Adblocker. No adverts for me. If it notices you are using it switch Adblocker off and refresh. Then switch it on again.

      1. 340306+ up ticks,
        Afternoon RE,
        Sad thing is, over the last nearly four decades & with the majority of peoples consent they have ALL been repeats.

    1. Well Boris needs to watch this and he might get ahead of the game for a change. Nearly everything he describes is happening here.

      1. Boris is doing 2 things – LYING 100% TO US – – and obeying whoever is paying HIM. PP said she was going to STOP the illegals – – MORE and MORE turn up – and are put on holiday !!! Hotel, food, heat, tv, clothing, bed, etc. AND SHE KEPT HER JOB IN THE SHUFFLE – wow – – what woulg she have got if she’d actually STOPPED the flood of uneducated, unemployable, unknown, dangerous, rapists and murderous freeloaders?

          1. Treasonous and unmitigated lying, Walter.

            Hanging is too good for him, I’ve yet to think up something in line with Hanging, Drawing and quartering in whatever is the right sequence.

  22. Pinched from BTL and I agree with every word

    Olivia Wilde 20 Oct 2021 10:14AM

    Where is all the outrage over the grooming of our white underage girls In the continuing Asian grooming gangs scandal?!
    With one having had 9 abortions, have no questions ever been asked as to why a 13 year old girl is with a 50 plus year old man?!
    Why aren’t our most vulnerable amongst society being protected by us grown adults; Is It because they are mostly In care and deemed disposable
    goods?!

    Maggie Oliver, a former Detective Constable with theManchester Police appears to be the lone voice in the public arena fighting their
    corner on this, with no political support whatsoever because of the demographic involved.

    We are giving carte blanche to the perpetrators of these gangs to violate and exploit their vulnerability with no-one In a position of authority,
    except this lady, to fight their corner on their behalf.

    An utter disgrace and one In which the whole Criminal Justice System, the Met’ Police and Care authorities and HMG
    (our Home secretary) have been found wanting time and time again.

    We are sleep walking Into the perfect storm in which the radicals of the Muslim community rule by fear, ever empowered
    by the cowardice of our ruling elites, forever cowed, with many fearing In becoming the next target, unwilling to put their
    noses above the parapet, thereby sacrificing our dependants on the altar of political correctness and appeasement as ever.

    What with the recent murder of one of their own serving MP’s now being deflected away from what the murder was, to being passed
    off as death by natural causes by our London Mayor and called out not for what the murder was, an Islamic extremist’s victim,
    but an abuse of MP’s on social media.

    This Is our country that Is being abused and cowed and all Parliament stand by and just watch It happen, blinkered and blindly
    hoping that If they bury their heads In the sand, then this will all just go away, well It won’t; their Inaction will further embolden
    this Ideology to carry on regardless with no fear of culpability, consequences or retribution.

    Cowards the lot of them and yet again, the innocents have to pay for their nonchalance and willful Ignorance.

    1. Hi OLT, it appears to be the same in the USA. A school board tried to cover up the rape of a female student so that it did not contradict their political agenda on trans students. It is a truly horrific case that is finally getting some publicity but still not on the MSM there.

      https://youtu.be/qLU4xKRcqg4

      1. Isn’t that the school where they had the father arrested during a school board meeting and have since then been trying to get him a nice cushy prison term?

        We don’t hear about it in Canada, it doesn’t conform to the lefty news agenda.

        1. Hi Richard, that’s the one. They set him up when he attended the school board meeting. He was wound up by another parent saying that his daughter was a liar and then the head of the schollboard saying that there was absolutely no reports of any issues with transgender facilities in schools – 3 wks after his daughter had been raped.
          They had the police on hand and they grabbed him from behind, he struggled with them and they dragged him out – that’s the video clip that the School Boards association used when requesting FBI etc. intervention into ‘domestic terrorists’ at school board meetings.
          He was charged with disorderly conduct and the state’s AG was calling for a prison sentence!

          “Smith was later charged with two misdemeanors and convicted by Judge Thomas J. Kelley. He was sentenced to 10 days in jail, all suspended, contingent on a year of good behavior. His attorney, Elizabeth Lancaster, argued for a moderate fine and no jail time, pointing to Smith’s largely clean record, his long residency as a small business owner in Leesburg, and his anger about the assault of his daughter. Smith is appealing the verdict to the Circuit Court, where a jury trial is scheduled for March 12, 2022.”

          Interview with the father:

          https://youtu.be/aCkhzHJTI5k

          Local news report has more info from 2 days ago:

          https://meaww.com/buta-biberaj-loudoun-county-prosecutor-support-scott-smith-jail

    2. I’ve said it before – with 6 million of the blighters , my cunning plan should be brought into play.

    3. Several weeks ago, on Sunday evening local Beeb radio, the show, by Easterna, included a “discussion” on the victims of the immigrant grooming gangs – – the result, from THEM, was that the ONLY people at fault was the groups that were supposed to be protecting them – – NOT IN ANY WAY WAS IT THE OLD SPOTTY, GREASY, IMMIGRANT PERVS DOING IT TO THE VICTIMS, The criminals doing it see NOTHING wrong in what they do – – and broadcast it on BBC radio. OPENLY.
      As more arrive – it will imcrease – – and PP is doing NOTHING to stop them coming.
      HELL is being thrown on our people – and millions are totally unaware – most of the rest are waving in our exterminators AND . being nice, welcoming, helpimg, having charity does for THEIR groups etc. One day, when the immigrants and “our” govt show their TRUE aim them MILLIOMS of idiots will – too late – wake up. Thankfully, i’ll be dead.

        1. It’s Kalachakra, The Wheel of Time.

          By the way, as a matter of interest. The Kalachakra contains an interesting prophecy that if true is getting close to fruition. Although it was composed in the 11 Century it predicts a war that, if accurate in its dating should take place in the near future. The war comes about by all religions uniting in order to fight and crush an enemy. The enemy, believe it or not, is Islam which is portrayed as well as its prophet, Mohammad, as barbaric and the chief enemy of civilization.

    1. I’m smiling so much my jaw is aching.

      The days when they went out of their way to entertain us.

      Brilliant thanks. Gonna watch Footloose and Fame again later.

    2. Wonderful stuff, Fantastic rhythm and coordination. What a shame our political classes and civil service don’t have that sort of ability. The only thing they are any good it came right at the end.

    3. Memories – – young, gorgeous women – – with WAISTS, Look at some of the shapes we see now.

  23. Good afternoon all.
    Apologies if I am hours behind on this, but there might be another reason HM the Queen has postponed her trip to Northern Eurland.
    RIP Regimental Corporal Major Dennis Hutchings, ex Household Cavalry.

    1. The Queen is in good health but has been advised to rest for a few days in preparation for Cop26. My advice to her would to stay away from Cop26.

  24. In what conceivable way can heat pumps help the planet? And what exactly can they help with? Correcting the planetary orbit? Deflecting the meteorites?

    1. All of the above, enoch! It’s the gospel according to Mad Carrie and her greeny loons!

          1. I always imagine you having a Grandmother named Morag, Sue.
            Dunno why.
            If Firstborn had been a girl, she would have been christened Morag Elisabeth. Weird, or what?

    2. They cannot make enough money by forcing you to buy an EV so spare manufacturing capacity is being tooled up to make millions of almost efficient heat pumps.

      1. Are there any of Boris Johnson’s plans for saving the environment which are not total cons? I can’t think of any, can anyone?

  25. Just looking for a cover for my new car on t’internet. Found a good one but the quoted price didn’t include VAT, which I only discovered when I came to check out. I thought they had to state that prices don’t include VAT? Well, that’s one sale they’ve lost.

    1. We have stopped looking around. Our old blue car was insured with the Halifax. After a crash it took them a year to pay up, and the repair had to be done in their choice of car repair shop, 35 miles away, instead of locally. So when we disposed of the blue car we wrote off the Halifax at the same time. Our wee black convertible was insured with the Co-op for the last 9 years (I’m a co-op type person) but they changed underwriters last year so we tried the NFU who insure our white van which replaced our blue car five years ago. The NFU quote was £200 pounds less than the Co-op.

      (The German smokes Camels and lives in the brown house. The Englishman smokes Capstan and lives in the red house. The Italian lives next door to the Frenchman who lives in the yellow house. What brand does the Japanese smoke?)

        1. That’s why you should never leave your fags on your bedside locker – they keep you awake

  26. Breaking News – The BBC are having trouble finding a new Dr Who, apparently the applicants only want to do facetime interviews after a three week appointment

  27. Sunshine plus very heavy showers.

    Just had a webinar about the Fitzwilliam Museum “Gold in the Great Steppe” expo – brilliant We are going to it on Friday. Looks amazing.
    I looked up Kazachstan – and it is the size of EUROPE but with a population of just 18 million….!!

    1. Let’s export our 6,000,000 Muslims there – they’ll feel right at home.

      Hell’s teeth, I might even fund a mosque for them to elevate their arseholes.

        1. That’s nuffin – there are more than 99 declared mosques in Bratford alone – and just one of them can hold 8000+ up-raised rears in one sitting – so’s to speak.

        2. That’s nuffin – there are more than 99 declared mosques in Bratford alone – and just one of them can hold 8000+ up-raised rears in one sitting – so’s to speak.

          1. The other day. That video (on here ) in London of the immigrants screaming, shouting, causing disruption, basically demanding respect etc while saying they were proud to be British – while waving a non Union Jack? – blocking the people while shouting they were “peaceful” people – – definitely NOT British or English. They REALLY couldn’t be further from us if they tried. Screaming and shouting AT me does NOT gain ANY respect from me. But that is them – – and this island’s destructiomn is their aim.

    2. This puts me in mind of one of my favourite books by one of my favourite authors, Kurt Vonnegut. “The Sirens of Titan”. In it the main characters dog is named Kazak. Here’s the Wikipedia link to the plot outline. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sirens_of_Titan.

      Kurt Vonnegut was a POW in Dresden when it was bombed. His sense of humour was deeply effected by that. Very black but extremely funny.

      One of his short stories is: “Harrison Bergeron” which literally had me fall of a chair from laughter when I read it. However, it’s lesson now is almost prophetic. Here is the Wiki link to that too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Bergeron

      1. I read the “Harrison Bergeron” story many decades ago. It has stuck in my mind as has the “Sirens of Titan”. “Slaughterhouse Five” less so. Vonnegut’s stories are always engrossing,

  28. Kwasi Kwarteng seems to be the “Tory” equivalent of Lammy. Thick as a plank. And gobby.

    1. Typical Old Etonian. He read classics and history at Trinity College, Cambridge, achieving a First in both subjects. He was a member of the team which won University Challenge in 1995 (in the first series after the programme was revived by the BBC in 1994). He attended Harvard University on a Kennedy Scholarship, and then earned a PhD in economic history from the University of Cambridge in 2000.

        1. Even worse, a columnist for the DT. He was always on a trajectory to become a Tory MP and was shacked up with Amber Rudd.

  29. A little tale about a name. Greta and the diminutive, Gretchen, and the English equivalent, Margaret, all mean pearl. A pearl is usually a round, shiny object much admired by women, girls and male transvestites. What most people don’t know is that they are formed from an irritating piece of shít that starts life in a permanently wet environment and serve no useful purpose in life except to dazzle and deceive the innocent onlooker.
    Ain’t etymology interesting?

  30. Acorn CCS Aberdeen was mentioned by Ian Blackford at PMQs. It appears to be an EU assisted project to allow Hydrogen to be produced from Natural Gas with the CO2 produced in the process being captured and taken by ship into the redundant oil fields and deposited at least 1km below sea level. Is this process cost effective and net carbon zero? Is this what Qatar is doing with it’s LNG ? Boris did say he wanted the UK to be the Qatar hydrogen King. Will there be enough Hydrogen to keep our gas fires in place – I think not. Ian Blackford had a moan about the Aberdeen Acorn project but I didn’t catch what his problem was. He had a sore throat and perhaps he should have stayed away from the H0C.

    1. I laughed a lot about Fatty Blackford when the next speaker referred to him as ‘the quiet man’, and hoped it would continue!

    1. If one has an old combi it will be recorded on your vaccine app and you wont be allowed to buy food.

    2. Two years ago he would have said that it was quite impossible for police to arrest you for having a coffee in the open air.

    3. Were it not for the fact that he never had it in the first place I would say that he had lost it.

  31. BBC Radio 4 now: The Statue of Liberty is racist.. Protecting the entrance to New York harbour and welcoming the white immigrants from Europe and barring the unwashed, disease ridden blácks from Africa and the Caribbean. TEAR IT DOWN!

    1. I recall a programme some years ago – I think it was on the BBC – where a black American athlete was exploring his idea that the reason the US has produced so many top black athletes is that only the superfit survived the Atlantic crossing.

      1. The real reason is that the slave owners bred selectively from the biggest and strongest, just like cattle.

    1. The meaning of words change continuously – ‘passed away’ now means slaughtered in cold blood in a place of faith and sanctuary by by a crazed, knife wielding member of a peaceful religion. You gotta keep up with the changes.

    2. Sir David Amess was murdered by a Radicalised Islamist. Allegedly, his death was achieved by 37 stabs of a kitchen knife.

      Sadiq Kahn’s use of the term ‘passed away’ is a grotesque understatement …

    1. Radio 4 news (to which I listened for barely a couple of minutes to prevent my mood sinking further) spoke of the Health Sec’s ‘sombre tone’, as though many thousands had suddenly died in a very short time. This, of course, is the BBC which frequently refers to the double-jabbed as ‘fully protected’. Somebody please tell them…

    2. Radio 4 news (to which I listened for barely a couple of minutes to prevent my mood sinking further) spoke of the Health Sec’s ‘sombre tone’, as though many thousands had suddenly died in a very short time. This, of course, is the BBC which frequently refers to the double-jabbed as ‘fully protected’. Somebody please tell them…

    3. So the proportion of positive test results is stubbornly around 5%, whilst the number of hospital admissions has fallen by 85%. I guess the vaccines and natural immunity are working…

  32. That’s me for this – eventually – sunny day. Market tomorrow.

    Have an exciting evening – drinking sensibly.

    A demain.

  33. 340306+ up ticks,

    I reckon if you brought out a head covering with a bloody great beak on the old plague medico’s use to wear in place of the mask, the take up would put you in the millionaire class.

    1. The elephant should be labelled ‘Islam’ and that’s all. There really is no such thing as ‘Islamic extremism. The structure of Islam disallows such a concept. That is unless a sect teaches something that is clearly heterodox. Boku Harem, Isis, the Taliban etc are in that sense all authentic Islam.

    1. Because somebody has to order, stock, manage and control the paper.
      Warehousing, etc. SAP for stock control.
      It’s probably not too bad.
      If I popped out for a ream of Tesco paper, it would take about 1/2 hour at best, and that would cost my Client £60. Plus the paper.
      So, NHS is getting a bargain!

      1. How do Tesco sell it for £5 (and make a profit)?
        Don’t they also have warehousing,stock control etc.?

        1. Yes, but they also have about ten thousand other items also controlled by the warehousing systems, so all fixed costs and most variable costs can be shared across all 10.000. That makes it much cheaper per each.
          They also handle their items in bulk, they don’t go to the warehouse each time they need a single item.
          If you wanted 1 ream and it takes 1/2 hour at £50/hr, that’s a man-cost of £25 for that ream. If you collected 50 reams, that’s 50p a ream. Somewhat cheaper per ream.

          1. Oops, see my response. The problem is that those who should use the system don’t give a toss.

          2. The NHS in Scotland was in the process of setting up a central warehouse for items. The NHS buys many thousands of different items.
            whether direct from suppliers or via a central purchasing warehousing the NHS is big enough to get the same discounts as Tesco.

        2. Depending on when exactly, and the weight (80 gsm) the price at ASDA and Lidl is about £3.50. Occasionally less. £5 would be a typical ‘pile it high and sell it dear’ tactic by Tsco.

          1. Despite what Johnny Norfolk has to say in the subject, JIT (Just In Time) works if you’re sure of your supply chain.

      2. Now, there’s the NHS thinking.

        They do what you did and reduce it to the level of the individual.
        The reality is that the NHS might well be able to buy 100,000 reams if not 1,000,000 a year.
        Bought centrally and distributed as needed and it would be a fraction of the £28 level.

          1. Indeed, but that’s the point I was trying to make, (clumsily) people think at the micro, not the macro level for these things.
            As an individual, very often I look at my potential savings but not whether it’s worth the effort to buy a few miles down the road. I don’t take the time/travel costs/aggravation into account, I just look at the price.

        1. The NHS has a purchasers guide. It lists preferred suppliers. Deals have been negotiated. It is a book 3 inches thick. I noted that one department had bought envelopes at 28p each. Had they bought them via the guide they would have cost less than 4p. I brought this to their attention. They did not give a hoot. The NHS borders had four purchasing systems in operation simultaneously. One was the new computer operated electronic ordering system. The next two were serially numbered NCR Purchase Order sets. Unsurprisingly the serial number sequences that should have been unique were duplicated. The fourth system was where someone walked into a shop and had the bill sent to NHS Borders. It was shambolic and went unremarked by the auditors who seemed very chummy with the Finance Director/Assistant Director.

          1. You are Jill Backson and I claim my 5/- postal order… it was one of his themes, and you are quite right. But then, since moey is given to them regardless, easy come, easy go.

      3. SAP is too big – no-one understands it all. I much prefer the simplicity of the Swedish IFS (Industrial and Finance System)

  34. Came in to my email this evening. From the Spectator

    Who does the government think will be the 90,000 lucky people who succeed in pocketing £5,000 grants to replace their gas boilers with heat pumps? Just-about-managing homeowners in ‘Red Wall’ seats who strained every sinew to buy a draughty two up, two down – or well-off homeowners with nice period houses, lots of capital and three cars on the drive?

    Here’s a little clue: even taking into account the £5,000 grant it will still cost upwards of £5,000 to install the heat pump itself, plus another £10,000 for insulation and to install larger radiators – so it is really not an option for the first group. As for the second, they are bound to lap up those grants, just as they have every other environmental handout on offer.

    It is always the same with green grants. Bungs to install photovoltaic panels introduced over a decade ago went to homeowners with £10,000 to invest. Thanks to the inflated prices which power providers are obliged to pay for the electricity generated by early adopters, those PV panels have become assets now paying risk-free returns of upwards of 10 per cent a year, index-linked to the Retail Prices Index.

    It was the same with huge subsidies paid to homeowners to install biomass boilers – pieces of kit which are only suitable for large properties. And it happened, too, with grants for electric vehicles, which have been eagerly taken up by eco-conscious, well-off motorists who wanted to treat themselves to a second or third car. This is not to mention the fortunes which have been made by landowners with the space to install wind farms and solar farms.

    But guess who pays? Most of these bungs are added to the utility bills of people who can’t afford to generate their own electricity – according to Ofgem, 25 per cent of our electricity bills are currently accounted for by environmental and social levies. It would be a little fairer if the costs were met out of general taxation, which tends to be progressive, but most come in the form of regressive taxes. With electric vehicles, the situation is even less fair: while buyers of new electric cars enjoy grants of £3,500, owners of older vehicles are now being singled out for stiff daily charges in low emissions zones.

    Green incentives have long been a racket, a machine designed to transfer wealth from the poor to the rich.

    Normally, there would be outrage at such a system. But when it comes to anything green, the usual rules seem to go out of the window. Indeed, many on the left, who you might think would be especially offended at the inverse redistribution of wealth, spend time demanding even more green levies and subsidies. Don’t expect much in the way of objection from Labour against the heat pump grants – only a mild complaint that new gas boilers won’t be banned at an earlier date.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/this-heat-pump-scheme-is-a-bung-to-the-rich?mc_cid=f9986338e4&mc_eid=4961da7cb1

    1. I never got a bung to install my solar panels 7 years ago and the FiT has been reduced last year. I’ve nearly got my £6k investment back and from then on the return on it will be less than 10% but at least my electricity bill has been reduced – and I’m in the far north of Scotland. and my electricity bill subsidises all the rest of this ‘green’ crap

      1. Out of interest, Spikey, if there was a power cut chez toi, say on a sunny day, would you be able to use the solar panels directly to light/heat the house?

  35. Well, taking advantage of the better than expected weather, I filled 17 bags with soil from the roadside verge that runs alongside the edge of the “garden” and humped it up to where I’m working. About ½cwt per bag, so about 8 or so cwt with 12 tipped and another 5 to get tipped.
    Also got the 2nd compost bin shifted.
    No sign of anything bigger than a ground beetle in either of the bins at the moment.
    Forecast to be a decent day tomorrow, so I’m hoping to get some photos of what I’m doing between the inevitable rain showers.

  36. Just a thought:
    Much of what Blair did made Cherie very rich.
    Is Boris trying to do similarly?

  37. Looks like youse are likely to be locked down again. The signs are there, preparing the ground… https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58985617
    So, we will likely not be coming to England & Wales for Christmas this year, either.
    Bugger. :-((
    Have planned a trip to the Blue Anchor pub, East Aberthaw since well before lockdowns started. Never mind visiting Mother, wherever she might be by then.

      1. You know, that’s one of the most positive things I’ve read in ages. Brought a big smile to my face!
        :-D)
        Thanks for that, KP. You’re a star!

        1. Drakeford spoke today and was rather tempered in his words. We still have masks in shops and the highest ‘case’ rate in the UK but the hospital admission rate remains low and he remains with the attitude of wait and watch. As they have introduced vaccine passports for night clubs and large venues, there is little left to do except close down business again.

  38. Just in case I might be in a position to visit Mother in her new abode at Barry Hospital, the following applies https://cavuhb.nhs.wales/covid-19/#Visiting:
    We are reintroducing visiting in line with the guidance and in certain circumstances. Please note: Maternity visiting has separate more specific guidance.
    Visiting should be with a clear purpose and agreement for visiting based on the best interests of the patient/service user.
    Reason for the request should meet the following guidance:

    End of life –last days of life –in these cases Ward Staff will contact you directly.
    Carer –you are the carer or the nominated representative.
    Learning disabilities (LD) –a patient with learning disabilities may need you as their carer/ next of kin to share information about their individual needs and virtual visiting may not be appropriate.
    Other –for example where it is felt a visit from you may help the patient with rehabilitation, understanding of care/ condition, help with dietary concerns etc.

      1. We’ve died and gone to hell, where the box-tickers, Block wardens and the little Hitlers are in charge.

    1. I saw somebody I hadn’t seen for ages in church this morning and asked after her little girl; it seems she now has another daughter, 14 months old! She said that expectant mothers were told not to go anywhere during lockdown and since there hasn’t been much opportunity for her new child to socialise. She (the daughter) is very wary of her grandparents. What a life!

      1. That’s really sad, Conners.
        Reminds me of our previous neighbours – she is Aussie, he is Norwegian. Their little girl was brought up speaking Norwegian only, so when grandparents came from Oz on a visit, there was no communication between them at all. Ad the parents couldn’t take advantage and slip out for a dinner a deux, either.

    1. We will have our revenge on this Muslim piece of shit.

      Edit: Javid has obviously been given the promise of untold wealth following Bill Gates’ audience with Fataturk. Javid was saying the opposite prior to the visitation.

  39. Evening, all. Rainfall here has reached Biblical proportions at times, yet it’s been very mild. For “government grants” read “taxpayers’ money”.

    1. It’s been a shocker of an afternoon and evening for rainfall. Now we appear to be finally coming to a postdiluvian period here in east Cornwall.

    2. Great day for golf over here. climate change is wonderful at the moment.

      They are only warming up their greeniac handouts, wait until they get a few drinks inside them in Glasgow.

  40. In this argumentative discussion on which of the heating devices (heat pump or boiler) is better, this caveat paragraph is in the concluding remarks.

    As it was shown earlier, a heat pump is an absolute champion when it comes to CO2 emissions, and can deliver a superior efficiency rate compared to a boiler. Nevertheless, it has to be mentioned that while a ground or air source heat pump that has a COP (Coefficient of Performance) of around 3, surpassing an electric boiler and oil fired boilers in terms of reducing costs and emissions, it fails to outperform a gas boiler.

    https://www.greenmatch.co.uk/blog/2015/09/boilers-vs-heat-pumps

    Just like E10 petrol we have to suffer a lower performance product when moving from gas fired boilers to heat pumps.

    As they say in Crimewatch, the installation of a heat pump will be very rare event because only very rich people will be able to afford lower performance methods of heating their mansions so don’t have nightmares!

    Goodnight all.

    1. Quite clearly we need to demolish Chevening and Chequers and build lots of heat pump homes to house the new arrivals.

      Obvious isn’t it that people that work for a living will be the people that have assets will pay.

      How much did the oh so fucking Green wife spend on the Downing Street Flat? Fuck fuck fuck.

      1. The promotion of inefficient fuel chimes perfectly with the move to be electric vehicles.

        The MD of a company I do occasional work for, a petrol head as it happens with a dozen exotic gas guzzlers, has leased an all electric Porsche. It is a beautiful vehicle with a range of 250 miles. Cost about £100k.

        He has a home charger and with 3 phase supply can charge it overnight. He justifies his purchase because he generally travels from Bury St Edmunds to Colchester from where he takes the train to London and back to Bury St Edmunds.

        Electric vehicles are great for certain wealthy types but of no use whatever for the average household.

        This push for electric vehicles is yet another push against poorer folk and designed to favour the wealthy.

        Every single action of our government in the past two years has been geared to the transference of wealth from the poor to the extremely wealthy. As I say these politicians are truly evil people.

  41. 340306+ up ticks,

    Dt,

    Get booster jab now to avoid return of Christmas restrictions, warns Sajid Javid
    Health Secretary raises prospect of winter restrictions unless pace of third dose rollout increases

    There is no going back for this odious mob now this latest order is
    out and out BLACKMAIL.

    1. It is coercion, pure and simple. Only simpletons would take yet another jab. The evidence is available that the jabs are encouraging the virus, not defeating it. The plan is to infect everyone via the faux vaccines and this has been obvious from the start.

      We are confronting truly evil people and an ineffective government ruled and bribed by globalists. They will steal our wealth, make it difficult for us to lead independent lives and make us beholden and submissive to the will of a few globalist billionaires.

      We have to look to America where they still own guns. Blair did for us on that score. Our votes no longer count for anything simply because there is no difference between the three main parties. They all sing from the same globalist song sheet.

      1. 340394+ up ticks,
        Evening C,
        As I have been trying to get across by rote for quite some time they are a coalition.
        The electorate are four decades behind,
        voting for party’s NOW that once had, but now long lost, integrity.

          1. 340396+ up ticks.
            Evening NtN,
            There are always going to be those asking the very same question whilst firmly gripping their lab/lib /con membership card.

            Individual choice omitting the lab/lib/con coalition, go cold turkey, do the country a patriotic service.

          1. 340396+ up ticks,
            C,
            The politico’s get lucrative back handers
            whereas the majority of the herd get a continuation of assorted punishments, the kids raped & abused, mass murder by alien agents, ongoing uncontrolled immigration
            and the toxic trio still find support.

    2. I had a five-page screed from him today, full of bullshit as to how I should look after myself. dated 17th September – received today 20th October.

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