Thursday 21 July: Conservative MPs have missed an opportunity to revitalise their party

Posted on by Geoff Graham

An unofficial place to discuss the Telegraph letters, established when the DT website turned off its comments facility (now reinstated, but we prefer ours),
Intelligent, polite, good-humoured debate is welcome, whether on or off topic. Differing opinions are encouraged, but rudeness or personal attacks on other posters will not be tolerated. Posts which – in the opinion of the moderators – make this a less than cordial environment, are likely to be removed, without prior warning.  Persistent offenders will be banned.

Today’s letters (visible only to DT subscribers) are here.

610 thoughts on “Thursday 21 July: Conservative MPs have missed an opportunity to revitalise their party”

  3. Good morning from a dull, overcast Derbyshire. No rain as yet, but forecast for a couple of hours time and a pleasantly cool 13°C outside.

  4. Last letter of today’s selection:-

    NHS can free up funds by cutting management
    SIR – NHS England says that pay rises for staff must be funded by cutting back on diagnostic capacity (Leading Article, July 20).

    I propose, instead, that it axes some of the dozens of equality, inclusion and diversity manager posts that are currently being advertised with salaries of between £50,000 and £100,000.

    In the past two years the number of NHS managers has doubled, while frontline NHS staff numbers remain the same. I can confidently predict that reducing managers would have no detrimental effect on NHS services. In fact, the exact opposite is likely to be the case.

    Dr Fiona Underhill
    Woodford Green, Essex

    Well said Madam!
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9f6d93d166d2ec9a92536678afb5975d72e3303b6c0ec2b3709454e4aa1d85c4.jpg

    1. A good start from Dr Underhill, but why only some? Why not all? How much of an impact on the Nation’s health do these people have, except for raising the blood pressure of sensible people?

    2. The objective must be to attract more white people as they are underrepresented in the NHS.

    3. Why do they need any of these posts? They are a useless waste of taxpayers’ money that could have been spent on front line service.

      1. Morning all. The answer is they don’t. The NHS must be THE most diversified and inclusive employee in the U.K., if not the world.

  5. Good Morning Folks

    Cloudy cooler start here, rain in the night.
    The house appears to be taking a long time to cool down though,

  7. Anticolonial hero statue to occupy Trafalgar Square fourth plinth from September. 21 July 2022.

    A sculpture of a preacher who was killed in an anticolonialist uprising in what is now Malawi will be unveiled in September on the fourth plinth in Trafalgar Square.

    Antelope by Samson Kambalu is the 14th contemporary artwork to be commissioned for public display in the historic central London square.

    The sculpture restages a 1914 photograph of John Chilembwe, a Baptist preacher and pan-Africanist, and John Chorley, a European missionary, taken at the opening of Chilembwe’s new church in Nyasaland, now Malawi.

    The relevance of an obscure native uprising in what is now Malawi during WWI to the modern UK must remain a mystery.

    https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/jul/20/anticolonial-preacher-sculpture-fourth-plinth-trafalgar-square-samson-kambalu-john-chilembwe

    2. It’s a pity that Professor Kambalu isn’t working in Malawi for the benefit of his countrymen.

      Is selfish or self centred the correct word to describe him?

  8. ‘Morning, Peeps. Another disappointingly warm night…

    SIR – It is extraordinary that, after so many Tory MPs complained for so long about the tax increases imposed by the Government (in breach of the election manifesto), they have now chosen the man responsible as their favourite to take over from Boris Johnson.

    After some of the best candidates have already been eliminated, we can only hope that Tory party members have more sense than the MPs.

    Malcolm Symonds
    Ashtead, Surrey

    I hear this morning that Sunak Jim is describing himself as ‘Thatcherite’. Not a hope, matey; that’s like describing Johnson as a Conservative.

  9. And we have precipitation!
    I will NOT call the very light drizzle that has arrived rain, but it is rather refreshing despite barely wetting the ground.!

    2. I’ll be mowing the lawn shortly, ahead of some precipitation forecast for tomorrow morning. Not that I’ll see it, I’ll be on the golf course.

  10. SIR – Now for the inevitable post-heatwave thunderstorms, downpours and flooding.

    I expect we will be given yet more “red” weather warnings, and advised, if we are unwise enough to venture outdoors, to wear waterproof clothing, Wellington boots and water wings.

    Mark Stephens
    Hungerford, Berkshire

    Don’t joke, Mr Stephens – plenty of weather presenters tell us to take a brolly when there is the ‘threat’ of wet weather. The nanny state knows no bounds.

    SIR – On Monday’s Today programme, listeners were advised not to call an ambulance unless they really had to.

    Why else would somebody call one?

    R K Hodge
    Chichester, West Sussex

    Quite!

    1. Lightningmaps.org is a site of interest for such matters. There were thunderstorms the length of Germany yesterday evening but all seems calm on the continent today, other than the occasional rumble on the Czech border. Just like old times…

    3. On a not entirely related matter, the ‘conservative woman’ site appears to be back in the game.

  13. The policies and new strategy have been created alongside the Zero Tolerance policy: Discharge for sexual offences and sexual instructor-trainee relationships that was announced earlier this year.

    I think the use of the word ‘discharge’ is inapt.

    It appears to be selective against the male (whatever Woke definition rules today) serviceperson

    Life in UK Armed Forces today::
    You may have sex with a prostitute in UK,
    We train you to kill, then spend the next 40 years trying to prosecute you for doing so.
    I believe the Army inform wives if their serving husbands get VD, therefore, hubby stays quiet and just spreads the disease. Look what Vietnam Rose did to the Americans
    In the RN, it was stoppage of tot, (whilst under treatment) condoms available from Quartermaster as yuu go ashore. (Prevention is better than Cure) .So I have been told

    The next step: Servicemen and women will be given :
    A list of books that they may read
    Food they may eat
    Make of car they may drive
    Towns they may live in
    etc

    I served for 28 years, I would not even consider the life (and it is a life, not a job) now.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/07/20/british-troops-banned-paying-prostitutes-overseas/

    1. It strikes us that this opens up an opportunity to take a discharge as soon as one has finished an expensive training course, or

      having just made the decision to leave the service for personal reasons.

    3. I trust, the same rules will apply to each and every Government employee who steps foot outside the UK ie

      Embassy Staff
      Trade delegations
      MPs on visits
      etc

    4. Here’s some of the article [Like OLT I’m glad I’m out of the RN!]:

      The policy will ensure that every allegation will be responded to, no
      matter where the allegation takes place, and introduces a presumption
      of discharge for anyone found to be engaging in the targeted behaviours,
      including buying sex whilst deployed outside the UK.

      The second policy will be a zero tolerance to unacceptable sexual
      behaviour, which places greater emphasis on the support for victims,
      with a presumption of discharge from the Armed Forces for any person who
      behaved in a sexually unacceptable way.

      They will be complimented by a ‘Tackling Sexual Offending in Defence
      Strategy’ which the MoD said will prioritise victims and aims to reduce
      the prevalence and impact of sexual offending in the Armed Forces.

    5. Here’s some of the article [Like OLT I’m glad I’m out of the RN!]:

      The policy will ensure that every allegation will be responded to, no
      matter where the allegation takes place, and introduces a presumption
      of discharge for anyone found to be engaging in the targeted behaviours,
      including buying sex whilst deployed outside the UK.

      The second policy will be a zero tolerance to unacceptable sexual
      behaviour, which places greater emphasis on the support for victims,
      with a presumption of discharge from the Armed Forces for any person who
      behaved in a sexually unacceptable way.

      They will be complimented by a ‘Tackling Sexual Offending in Defence
      Strategy’ which the MoD said will prioritise victims and aims to reduce
      the prevalence and impact of sexual offending in the Armed Forces.

  14. Morning all. As I sit here in the South of England in July, it is now a cool 16 degrees celsius. It seems the Apocalypse has been averted!

    Do the greenies not feel a bit embarrassed at how quickly they spread panic? Of course not, they’ve been doing it for fifty years without apology, so why start caring now?

    2. Another failed missive to the DT:

      SIR — The pathetic attitude of the Met Office, and the British public, towards the current heatwave is lamentable (The Met Office’s job is to forecast the weather, not be chief nanny, report, July 19).

      This clearly shows up the big anomaly in the make-up of British people. To boot: Those splendidly resilient people of 1976, who still possessed the backbone and brains of their stalwart forebears — especially the WWII generation — have somehow bred that resilience and spine out of their successor generations. Moral fibre has been supplanted by wimpishness and brainlessness.

      I really fear for future generations, especially if this continued degeneracy further weakens the minds and bodies of those to come. John Bull has already morphed into a lapdog: at this rate it won’t be long before that lapdog has transmogrified into a jellyfish, moreover, one without a sting.

      A Grizzly B.

      1. Everything is a ‘catastrophe’ or a ‘crisis’ nowadays. No wonder the children have all these mental-health issues, when we are constantly telling them to be afraid.

        I was also annoyed to see how, without any evidence, a few hot days are assumed to be evidence of climate change. We are talking about a heatwave in July!

        1. It’s been clear for years that the news has transmogrified into entertainment, and like all entertainment has to be more and more dramatic. AS action movies do, when cars now no longer just crash, they fly into the air, roll over and explode before getting near the ground. So, “news” stories have to be bigged up more and more, and if necessary turned into works of fiction, to provide the necessary “Oooh!” factor.
          Just remember, as in Tom & Jerry: “Don’t you believe it!”

          1. Newspapers are desperate for money nowadays, as people simply don’t pay for media like they used to. I agree that this means ever more sensationalist headlines, but also means they they are vulnerable to being influenced by their ‘sponsors’ (cough Bill Gates, cough). He who pays the piper calls the tune!

            I also think that the likes of the BBC feel that their role is to influence opinion, rather than simply report the news. They are the biggest cheerleaders for the ‘Climate Emergency’. Whatever happened to ‘Keep calm and carry on?’

          2. I watch old 40s and 50s movies on YouTube. There was just as much violence back then but most of it was implied, as the ‘action’ often took place off-screen allowing the viewers imagination to fill in the blanks.

          1. that comment made me sick. She should have been prosecuted.

            It’s good that the article is brave enough to say the word ‘Muslim.’ It is not because they are ‘Asian’ or even because they are Pakistani that they do this (many other nationalities have been ‘represented’ in these gangs). It is because their culture tells them that women generally are second-class, and non-Muslim women are simply trash.

      2. This is what happens when a population is injected with ‘roll over’ culture. Most of us wouldn’t have been here today if our parents and grandparents hadn’t fought off the proposed invasions. But now……the invasion is less noticeable but the effects are possibly much stronger than ever expected. And still the invasion goes on. And the effects will be far worse as time passes.
        Basically the UK has been thrown under the proverbial bus by 30 years of our useless governments.

        1. My Father never rolled over for anybody.
          His family were Friends, but he didn’t abstain because his vow was obtained under duress; during the Nigerian Civil War, he prevented the Nigerian army from entering “his” (his personnel number was 3) university campus to put down (= shoot) the rioting – then got the students to calm down and go home. Not a shot fired.
          From what I judge, Rastus’ dad was in the same mold, and I’m sure, in large and small ways, all our parents were similar.

          1. I met a lovely young lady on RMS Pendennis Castle on the way to Cape town 1968. Her father was then the vice chancellor of Cape Town University, I discover later. Sir Richard Luyt. He had recently been in a similar role in then, British Guyana as governor. Sadly Francis died in her early 50s. I can’t tell you how upset I was to hear that.
            People similar to her father were more than worthy of becoming more honest and steadfast versions of PMs. People experience is the common denominator most of our political classes don’t have they are far too selfish. And mainly from a different type of mould.

    3. Where are you in the south? Am currently in Kent, planning to drift westwards, and meeting random Nottlers is a fun part of my travels 🙂

        2. Oh, I’m sure I shall, in due course. Logic says that keeping going around the country makes it inevitable, but I’m not really operating on logic 🤣

          I made a quick dash there earlier in the year for the Better Way conference. Beautiful city!

        3. Would have attached a photo but there’s no option for that when replying.

  15. No evidence Putin is unwell, CIA chief says. 21 July 2022.

    CIA director Bill Burns responded to rumours about President Vladimir Putin’s health, denied the Russian leader was ill.

    Burns, who speaks Russian and who has dealt with Putin over two decades, was asked about periodic media reports suggesting Putin is unwell at the Aspen Security Forum on Wednesday. Burns retorted:

    “There are lots of rumours about President Putin’s health and, as far as we can tell, he is apparently too healthy.”

    Burns served as ambassador early in Putin’s tenure and was quietly sent to Moscow last year in an unsuccessful attempt to dissuade him from invading Ukraine, Agence France-Presse reports.

    Well that’s a bit of a bummer since the MSM has spent the last six months trying to convince us that he’s at Deaths Door!

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/jul/21/russia-ukraine-war-cia-chief-says-no-evidence-putin-is-unwell-moscow-expands-aims-to-seek-more-territory-live?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-62d8d6188f08b3cb1ab50eca#block-62d8d6188f08b3cb1ab50eca

    3. This stupid sort of propaganda is all they have on him.
      Why can’t they focus on the real reasons that this conflict started. I remember seeing retired General Sir Richard Dannatt speaking about it. The problem is the media can’t handle the truth. And Sir Richard hasn’t been seen since.

    4. Unlike Biden, who they are now saying has skin cancer.
      Well, it was predicted all along that he would limp along until the mid term and then stand aside.
      How long can the current criminal cabal in the US carry on being so obvious? I suppose they still have the support of the Davos crowd, and that’s all that counts.

      1. They don’t do subtlety. But so long as the masses are taken in, what does it matter?

  16. Morning all 😃
    Apparently it chucked it down with rain last night. But I missed it ….fast asleep. Oh well. 😊

  17. Good morning all

    I do hope the poor people who have lost their homes and everything they possessed in the ghastly frightening fires recently , will be treated well to first class accommodation and all the freebies that are also awarded to the economic migrants who are filling every hotel in the UK?

    2. There’s a lot of talk of arson regarding these fires TB. The police are investigating.
      I heard a farmer speaking on radio yesterday saying one of his hay stacks had been deliberately set alight. He also suggested that a spark caused by flint and steel (farm machinery) had caused a fire in one of his fields.

        1. I’m going back a few years, we had a family holiday near Alfa in Spain and two German women were found to have set light to woodland in the area. It left an unsightly mess.
          Never heard of the outcome of the event.

  18. “Surging inflation led interest payments on UK government debt to hit the highest amount on record in June.
    Interest payments paid by the government for last month hit £19.4bn.
    It pushed government borrowing for the month up from a year earlier to the second highest June level on record.
    Borrowing – the difference between spending and tax income – was £22.9bn during the month, up £4.1bn from a year earlier, the Office for National Statistics said.”

    Well done Rishi!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0zaebtU-CA

    1. Usual story with our political classes. They couldn’t run a bath. Soon they’ll not have any water either.
      And what a perfect time to chuck the man who made this terrible mistake out of the competition to become PM. Remembering of course that he’d already resigned.

      1. Eagle-eyed Nottlers will also note that we (i.e The Treasury on our behalf) have actually borrowed the £19.4bn (plus an extra £3.5bn) to enable the June interest payment to be met! The heart of darkness – Hold the bus Zimbabwe we are on our way!

        1. We won’t be welcome in Zim it was the brits, as in Wilson that effed up Rhodesia leading to murdering Mugabe completly wrecking the country.
          Apparently it’s just what the locals wanted, get rid of whitey. Until of course it happened and things took their course.
          And we still donate 13 billions pounds a year in foreign aid.

          2. Same old same old for African countries, run by crooks JHB once a wealthy busting metropolis. Now the usual African city Shite hole. Drugs and prostitution, murder and robbery is rife.

    2. Surging inflation reduces the real value of the non index-linked part of the national debt. Happy days!

      1. Interesting point. But doesn’t it mean that when the Treasury hands round the begging bowl to borrow more £Billions ,the interest rates will also be higher and the amount to be paid back correspondingly larger until those willing to lend say No!

  19. 354527+ up ticks,

    Morning Each,

    Thursday 21 July: Conservative MPs have missed an opportunity to revitalise their party

    Is there a problem, why would they wish to do that when their political product, the
    fear / manipulation campaign is working so well, AS WITNESSED.

    A daily intake of potential troops/patients/ criminal offenders / welfare suckers is continuing unabated as the choice of new hydra head to continue the trend.

    A vote for lab/lib/con ( a proven coalition)
    or nota in some form is just, without a genuine opposition, continuing the odious
    fear / manipulating suffering.

  20. Liz Truss eyes emergency budget to lower tax as she fights Rishi Sunak for No 10. 21 July 2022.

    Liz Truss criticised Rishi Sunak’s record on taxation and the former chancellor claimed he was the only one who could beat Labour as the leadership contenders turned their focus to winning over Tory members.

    The Foreign Secretary vowed to bring in an emergency budget to swiftly axe the national insurance rise if she wins the race to be the next prime minister.

    All I can say about this is that if they believe it they are as stupid as I think they are! It’s quite obvious that this (the same headline is common to a dozen publications) is simply a sprat to catch a mackerel. Even if the National Insurance rise were to be axed it would simply be moved somewhere else.

    The problems the UK faces are far beyond what can be cured with a few cosmetic flourishes here and there. What is needed, or will inevitably occur due to the mistaken policies of the last twenty years, is a wholesale reorganisation of the State. It is in Terminal Decline!

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/liz-truss-rishi-sunak-uk-parliament-conservative-foreign-secretary-b1013726.html

    1. Morning Minty.

      That’s easily ‘affordable.’ Please see my post below. All she has to do is arrange for the Treasury to borrow a lot, lot more!

      1. If interest rates are raised even to match inflation, how much more would the Treasury have to borrow just to meet the repayment demands?

        If pay scales are raised even to match inflation, how much more again would the Treasury have to borrow? If they don’t, how long before there is a national strike?

    3. So, no hope then. We’re approaching the end of a fiat currency, with the nation up to its eyeballs in debt and pledged to a self-destructive Dover invasion and net zero, but hey, Liz Truss will rearrange the deckchairs.

      1. I didn’t know that there is any place for royalty in the NWO.

        Someone better tell Prince Charles

    7. If Liz Truss becomes PM will she give Rishi Sunak a position in her cabinet?

      1. Hi, Maggie. We are doing OK. My wife walks the dog very early so that she doesn’t meet anyone. I walk in late afternoon when it is cooler.

    3. Dull here and the earlier light drizzle has turned into a heavy drizzle.

    1. Windmills kill far more birds and bats. However, yes. Plastic pollution is a huge problem. We should withdraw from the WEEE immediately and stop shipping our waste to African and India where they dump it in the sea.

      1. Plastic waste should be recycled, incinerated to produce energy or, as a last resort, dumped in inland landfill sites. It should NEVER be dumped in the sea.

  24. 354527+ up ticks

    Gerard Batten
    @gjb2021
    ·
    12m
    Reminds one of the ‘elections’ in the Soviet Union. They had a choice of one Communist Party candidate or another Communist Party candidate.

    Now it’s which WEF candidate to choose from? Now made more complicated for Tory members by which is the more politically correct choice: the brown man or the white woman?

    I think the former Goldman Sachs condidate will have the edge as he’s closer to the Agenda. But surely Klaus should pipe up & give some guidance to the Tory members, he can’t leave a big choice like this open to the vagaries of democracy.

    It won’t came amiss for many who vote in a shite grading manner as in, the best os the worst.

    https://gettr.com/post/p1j55v04d6b

      1. 354527+ up ticks,

        Morning s,

        Even so far right peoples have off days . to err is….

        1. Morning o1.

          I like it. It’s a new word that could easily be applied to ex-GS personnel in positions of power…

    1. Its quite staggering what conclusions have been drawn from two days of hot weather in summer.

      1. Is Desprat really ‘Desperate to conflate unrelated issues’ and they’re frightened of printing the real author of the article?

          1. I’m in an exceptionally bad mood and didn’t really read it properly. It appears that the evidence suggests there is *no link* between mankind’s industry and weather.

            Thus, I apologise for being an oikish git.

          2. It appears that the evidence suggests there *is no link* between mankind’s industry and weather.

            Quite…

          3. I’m in an exceptionally bad mood and didn’t really read it properly. It appears that the evidence suggests there is *no link* between mankind’s industry and weather.

            Thus, I apologise for being an oikish git.

    3. Yup. If only our ancestors hadn’t learnt how to use metal, develop medicine and produce food on a reliable basis, this planet would be a veritable Paradise.

    5. How in the name of fecking cripes is the weather remotely related to waycism?

      Oh look. It isn’t. Not remotely. We’re successful, da blicks aren’t. Therefore there is something about us that’s better. Do they not have diggers in Africa? Pipes? Oh yes, they do. Why then do they wait to build roads and pipe work until whitey arrives?

        1. Then they should work to make it somewhere they do want to live. As it is, they’re turning here into Africa.

    6. And of course no recognition of the more important and more obvious facts, that thousands of people each year fly to the countries that black people originate from to enjoy the sunshine, the beaches, blue seas, palm trees, culture, food and wonderful scenery. I expect most white people who have paid thousands of pounds to reach, and stay in these wonderful countries, often wonder why black people ever left in the first place.

      2. Also of course, untold thousands of people migrating from hot countries to chillier climes, where their carbon footprint is many, many times higher. So it’s really all the fault of those very “black people” that the Grauniad feels so sorry for.

        1. The carbon footprint effect of immigration is the complete opposite effect we are faced with on a daily basis. And the opposite of government lectures. Not to mention the destruction of English countryside to accommodate all these interlopers. And the approaching water shortages.
          These people frankly appear to be too lazy to put their ‘own houses’ in order.
          In all aspects we would be far better off without them.

    1. If the Left couldn’t use illogic and doublethink to force their ideas then they’d never get anywhere.

  30. 354527+ up ticks

    Gerard Batten
    @gjb2021
    ·
    12m
    Reminds one of the ‘elections’ in the Soviet Union. They had a choice of one Communist Party candidate or another Communist Party candidate.

    Now it’s which WEF candidate to choose from? Now made more complicated for Tory members by which is the more politically correct choice: the brown man or the white woman?

    I think the former Goldman Sachs condidate will have the edge as he’s closer to the Agenda. But surely Klaus should pipe up & give some guidance to the Tory members, he can’t leave a big choice like this open to the vaugeries of democracy.

    https://gettr.com/post/p1j55v04d6b

    1. Will Schwab pop in to No 10 to give the new incumbent some ‘encouragement’. Story doing the rounds a while ago that Cameron had such a visitation.

      2. 354527+ up ticks,

        Morning KtK,
        The wretch cameron, his approach to animal husbandry was seen with, tool in hand approaching a pigs head on a platter.

        1. It seems the person on the right might be Nazi general Walter Dybilasz, not Schwab’s father – pity!

    1. 🙂 Only degenerate soft cultures can allow the mentally ill to dominate them.
      BUT ……. next question: What about FGM?

      1. 354527+ up ticks,

        Morning Anne,
        FGM, no, the lab/lib/con coalition, supporter & voters will still show their consent via the polling booth,

        Regarding politico’s I would go for the neck stretching jobee though.

      2. As the Left will tell you, that’s different, and you’re a waycist.

        As anything that challenges their doublethink is waycist. It’s how they ensure they don’t have to provide a rational explanation to their psychosis.

    2. I think it’s because their society still requires those roles. It’s subsistence level economics so there is no time to faff and waffle about being a woman.

      We’ve moved past that. However, that itself has caused an identity crisis that folk don’t know ‘who’ they are, so flail about pretending to be something they’re not. Because we’re a fat, decadent, rich, lazy society we can afford that crisis of identity. Where we’re going wrong is indulging it instead of considering the individual to be – frankly – tonto.

      1. 354527+ up ticks,

        Afternoon W,
        Nicely put , I do see tonto to be, equivalent in English as, thick as pig shite.

    1. “Far from the glitzy hotels people may imagine, these are not places
      anyone would want to stay in for long periods. They are cramped and
      unsafe.”

      But they were good enough to use as internment camps for anyone travelling legally here from abroad during lockdowns.

      1. Then don’t have them here for long periods. Cram the 100,000 into a ferry cargo ramp and sail to France. If they refuse to get out, flood it.

        Get rid of them.

    2. This figure is only for temporary accommodation.

      A few miles from here is an old Council estate mostly occupied with “migrants” who appear to have no job, and no desire to get one.

      1. More than two years ago just prior to the first Lock down we were on holiday near Tenby, Lydstep. We would often see the illegals from Penally Camp walking along the road to and from the town. I’m sure the locals hated it and probably still have to suffer.

          1. We thought that might be the aim there’s an army firing range across the road as well

      2. During the Cameron days and when the expansion of Heathrow was approved i believe a lot of people moved home and there fore many building became vacant in the same area. Hotels included. These properties were brought by speculators who must have already known that this invasion had been planned by the government. Cameron was flying thousands of people into air force bases from the middle east and housing them in these buildings. This will be why there is a massive building program taking place all over as much green belt and agricultural land as the developers can get their hands on.
        You really do have to wonder how many ‘bungs’ were made to councils and who politics pushed to get this ball rolling. No wonder they can afford multimillion pound homes and usually two. After all they only earn as much as Train drivers, plus expenses of course.

    3. …or else. 12 billion and rising by the day…… every year

      With no end in sight, certainly from the government’s perspective.

      1. And not one journalist has had the purpose supposedly possessed by journalists, to ask the question. What exactly is the purpose and ultimate aim of this invasion ?

      2. Next time there is an event at Wembley the crowd will be the approximate amount that has been allowed to land here by this current government. Yet there has never been the question asked and pursued as to why ?
        I wrote a letter to my MP 2 years ago asking the question and his answer was predictably pathetic
        The first line reads:- The united kingdom has a proud record of helping those fleeing persecution, oppression and tyranny from around the world.
        These illegal people are or never were any of the above. They are chancing their luck because of our lying governments slack and hideously useless attitude.

        1. Co-incidentally, yesterday I received a reply from my MP from an email I sent a few weeks ago. Specific to illegal immigration he wrote:

          “I agree that all illegal immigration should be deterred and prevented. The Nationality and Borders Act, which has now received Royal Assent, overhauls our approach to asylum and illegal immigration. The legislation will stop abuse of the system and expedite the removal of those who have no legitimate claim for protection.

          The pattern of repeated and often last-minute claims has challenged the Home Office’s ability to lawfully remove individuals. The Nationality and Borders Act ensures that people who have no right to be in the UK are swiftly removed from our country. To achieve this, the legislation confirms that the UK may remove people including criminals to a safe third country, introduces a power to improve visa penalties, and ensures that compliance with the asylum or removal process without good reason must be considered in deciding whether to grant immigration bail.

          Furthermore, people entering illegally will be deemed inadmissible to the asylum process. If people are unable to be removed to another safe country, and their claim is successful in the UK they will receive temporary protection status and will be re-assessed for removal. In addition, new and tougher criminal offences have been introduced for those attempting to enter the UK illegally or overstaying a visa by increasing the maximum penalty to four years imprisonment. People smugglers will also be subject to a maximum sentence of life imprisonment”

    4. Get rid of them. I don’t care how – coach, pushed into the sea, flamethrower. They’ve no right to be here, they’re all criminals, most are rapists and paedophiles, they’re bringing disease into the country. If the Home office won’t remove them, then it must be disbanded. It is simply not fit for purpose and acting specifically against it’s remit.

      Burn then, tip them, throw them. Don’t care. Get rid of them.

      Notably it’s a question not one of the candidates has answered.

      1. Not one of the candidates has been asked.

        I couldn’t agree more Mrs wibbers

  33. If Liz Truss becomes PM at least she is the best choice of a bad lot. I once interviwed her in her failed quest to become MP for Mid Norfolk. ( she became MP for South Norfolk.) She has remained the same person.

      1. Maybe. It depends where she is when she starts WW3. The difficulty liars have (I include all our politicians) is that they are incapable of grasping when some honest person says something, they mean it. So when Lavrov states “we have our doctrine in this,” I do hope that Truss knows and understands what this is and that Russia actually means it.

        1. If she only has soy boys and post-feminist women from the civil service advising her, then she hasn’t a hope of grasping it.

      2. Well scuz me Grizz but zzzzzzzzzzz. I think we already know why she’s up for it.

      3. Too youg to be PM in my opinion needs far more experiance. Compare CV to Lizz.

  34. Wordle 397 4/6

    ⬜🟨🟨⬜⬜
    ⬜⬜⬜⬜🟨
    🟨🟨🟨🟨⬜
    🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

    1. Par 4 today.
      Wordle 397 4/6

      ⬜⬜⬜🟨⬜
      🟨⬜🟨🟩⬜
      ⬜🟨🟨🟩🟩
      🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

    2. A sweet birdie 3 for me.
      Wordle 397 3/6

      🟨🟨⬜⬜⬜
      ⬜⬜🟨🟨🟨
      🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

    1. Surely unless there’s a notice to the effect that no alcoholic drinks are allowed they can’t confiscate them

    2. I can understand the concern, but it makes one wonder who brought the complaint in the first place.

    3. Funny how they can manage that but can’t deal with the green, road blocking, loons

  36. Due to a lack of sleep I am grumpy. Mongo pootled over for a fuss and I moved him away. Great bugger woofed at me (he doesn’t really bark, more a throaty humph). He came back and whined and I made a fuss, but obviously wasn’t enough so he did properly bark. A room filling noise full of dejected and poor temper.

    He is now sat on his bed wondering what he’s done wrong. He hasn’t, his boss is just in a foul, foul mood.

    2. I may well be talking out of turn wibbling but I got the impression you only came in one flavour Grumpy!

  37. I’m going to take our doggo for a walk now, she’s getting a bit old now but hasn’t been for two days, walking to the adjacent woodlands, a pair of trousers will be (k) nee-ded as there are many nasty flies about,….. get it ???
    Doggo didn’t think I would turn up.
    Might be some time.
    Slayders.

      1. Although completely shady I did break out into a sweat. And a nice chat with a local resident as well.

    1. Let us hope that the NEW Home Secertry will have the balls to deal with this.

    3. And no doubt the taxpayer is still paying for their vacant rooms, and twice over if they have been reallocated to the next arrivals.

  39. Still a chilly day – though back in T-shirt. This morning, I had to wear a pullover remember them??

    1. For some reason Bill I always imagine you wearing tweed and a cravat. I should stop having these daft assumptions.

      1. Indeed you should. I haven’t worn a cravat since 1958. I do have a tweed jacket – but no longer wear it… I bought it (also in 1958) at Bodgers in Cambridge.

        2. I heard a bloke explaining (at a posh dinner) that his DJ had been “built for my father in 1933”

          2. I have a riding jacket that was “built” in the thirties. It really was solidly built!

  40. As if this is a surprise.

    “Blow for future PM as surging debt costs hammer fiscal firepower. Leadership hopefuls’ ability to ease cost of living crisis slashed by record debt interest bill.”

    The room for manoeuvre has changed from “none” to “absolutely none”.

    All words and promises from the candidates, but the reality will be an ice cold very prolonged shower. Reminds me of the old story.

    Walking down the street one day, a high-ranking politician is tragically hit by a truck and dies. His soul arrives in Heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.

    “Welcome to Heaven,” says St. Peter. “What we do with high officials like yourself is have you spend one day in Hell and one in Heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity.”

    “Really, that won’t be necessary. I want to be in Heaven,” says the politician.

    “I’m sorry, but we have our rules.” And with that, St. Peter escorts the politician to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to Hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a club and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him; everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, hug him, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at expense of the people. They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster and caviar.

    Before he realizes it, it’s time to go. Everyone gives him a big hug and waves while the elevator rises. The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on Heaven, where St. Peter is waiting for him.

    For the next 24 hours, the politician joins a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing.

    “Well, then,” St. Peter says, “you’ve spent a day in Hell and another in Heaven. Now choose your eternity.”

    The politician answers, “Well, I would never have thought it, I mean Heaven has been delightful and all, but Hell was fantastic! I choose to go there.”

    So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to Hell. The doors open and he’s in the middle of a blazing, barren land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, wallowing in the flaming ruins.

    “I don’t understand,” the politician stammers to the Devil. “Yesterday I was here, and there was a golf course and club, and we ate lobster and caviar and danced and had a great time. This place promised to be wonderful, and now all that’s here is a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable.”

    The Devil looks at him, smiles and says, “Yesterday, we were campaigning. Today, you voted for us!”

    2. Is she from a secret tribe of cannibals but they haven’t let her in on their secret yet?

  45. After a busy day – too boring to explain – have just skimmed The Grimes.

    What on earth was going on in the Commons – giving that charlatan a “standing ovation”? That started with Bliar – and should have ended with Bliar.

    Shockingly bad form.

    Grrr.

        1. Bring back Berlisconi. At least he had entertainment value. The Italian and Greek economies have been fecked for years. We seem to have caught up now. Almost as if there is a cunning plan.

  50. Just received this from a mate:
    “So… it now comes to light that Rishi Sunak’s wife was part owner of Lava Mayfair Club Ltd (a private membership gym), which collapsed last year owing almost £44million to creditors, including £374,000 to HMRC!
    Another of Mrs Sunak’s ventures… Mrs Wordsmith (an education business) went into administration last year owing £16.3million – after receiving a £1.3million loan from the Government’s “Future Fund”!
    OH IT GETS WORSE… Digme Fitness (which she owns 100% of) received up to £635,000 of furlough money… before it then closed its eight studios in London and Oxford… still owing HMRC £415,000!
    So …. Mr Sunak introduces the furlough scheme … and the woman he’s sleeping with benefits by up to £635,000!
    Mr Sunak oversees the rules regarding Non-Dom status … and the woman he’s sleeping with benefits by over £20 million!
    Mr Sunak is in charge of ensuring that the UK maximises its tax revenue… yet the woman he’s sleeping with has been active in, or has owned, companies going bust owing a staggering £789,000 to HMRC!

    Mr Sunak says his wife’s tax affairs are none of OUR business… he can fuck RIGHT off!!
    Arrogance in almost immeasurable amounts!

    2. How I hate these people! Arrogant, pompous and ignorant!
      Any joy with the freezer, Paul?

          1. They aren’t ignorant of ordinary people, they live in a world where “ordinary people” are irrelevant. They live, think, behave and act in what is in effect a parallel universe, one with values and (lack of) morals that are alien to every day living.

    3. If true,Penny should take over his position with Liz Truss. Rishi Sunak should withdraw from the PM challenge and consider his position as MP.

      1. Not sure about that. With all that slime he’ll slither through probably but I hope not.

    5. And presumably she sought advice from her husband, which explains why the economy is FUBAR.

      1. The Government decided not to investigate the massive Furlough fraud. This could be one reason for that decision

    7. Put it all out there Obs.
      I’d suggest most of those in politics are crooked when it comes to income. Their basic salary is about the same as a train driver. Plus the Parliamentary expenses which usually quadruples the original. Plus all the wheeling and dealing on the side. None of them are hard up.

        1. That’s why Parliament quickly got rid of Elizabeth Filkin. She was to restrictive with their fake expenses claims.

    8. All of you crooks’ tax affairs, are our business – we pay you, rotten servants that you are!

      This also applies to your wives, families, doxies, staff and any other hangers-on.

  51. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUZEtVbJT5c

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/07/21/britains-biggest-gas-storage-site-course-reopen-autumn-race/

    “Britain’s biggest gas storage site on course to reopen by autumn in race to beat Russia

    Rough storage site set to reopen five years after closure – but people may face higher energy bills to help pay for it

    21 July 2022 • 1:40pm

    Rough gas storage site Russia energy crisis reopen Centrica

    The Rough gas storage site was shut down five years ago for being uneconomical to run Credit: Centrica

    Britain’s largest gas storage site is a step closer to reopening after regulators approved a new licence, boosting Western efforts to cut reliance on Russian gas.

    Centrica has been approved by the North Sea Transition Authority to store gas at the Rough storage site off the coast of Yorkshire, five years after closing it down because it was uneconomic.

    There are hopes the facility could be reopened as soon as this autumn, but ministers are still in talks with Centrica about possible financial support to help it reopen. That could see a levy added to consumer bills, deepening the cost of living crisis.

    Efforts to reopen the site come amid concern over gas supplies this winter as Russia restricts flows to Europe.

    The EU yesterday told member states to cut their gas demand by 15pc in a bid to avoid rationing and blackouts this winter.

    Moscow restarted flows through the Nordstream 1 pipeline on Thursday after a shutdown for maintenance, dismissing fears that it would not restart.

    The latest figures showed Russian gas was flowing to Germany at about 40pc of capacity between 7am and 8am, roughly the same as before the maintenance work began.

    However, German network regulator president Klaus Mueller wrote on Twitter: “In view of the missing 60% and the political instability, there is no reason yet to give the all-clear.”

    European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen on Wednesday said a full cut-off was “a likely scenario” at some point over winter.

    The UK gets little gas directly from Russia but is exposed to knock-on effects from Europe’s market including soaring prices.

    The Rough storage facility sits 18 miles off the coast of Yorkshire and can hold up to 100bn cubic metres of gas. Before its closure in 2017, Rough accounted for about 70pc of Britain’s storage capacity.

    The NSTA says the Rough project will require further regulatory approvals before it can re-open.”

    1. The NSTA says the Rough project will require further regulatory approvals before it can re-open.”

      So, the questions are:
      Does the NSTA wish to make the next PM’s life better or worse, which greeniacs can make life difficult and how, and who controls the NTSA?

      1. “The North Sea Transition Authority (NSTA), known as the Oil and Gas Authority (OGA) until March 2022, is a private company limited by shares wholly owned by the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy. It is responsible for maximising the economic recovery of oil from the North Sea. It is empowered to licence and regulate activity in relation to oil and gas in the United Kingdom, including oil and gas exploration, carbon capture and storage, and offshore gas storage.

        The NSTA’s role is to take the steps necessary to:

        a: secure that the maximum value of economically recoverable petroleum is recovered from the strata beneath relevant UK waters; and, in doing so,
        b: take appropriate steps to assist the Secretary of State in meeting the net zero target, including by reducing as far as reasonable in the circumstances greenhouse gas emissions from sources such as flaring and venting and power generation, and supporting carbon capture and storage projects.
        Established in April 2015 as an executive agency of the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, on 1 October 2016 the Oil and Gas Authority was incorporated as a Government Company, with the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy the sole shareholder and headquartered in Aberdeen with another office in London, which is also its registered company address. As of the 6 March 2019, Tim Eggar is the chair.”

        These bits say it all I think.
        My bold.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea_Transition_Authority

    2. Anyone else write an oratorio called “The Messiah”? (Apart from W A Mozart who “arranged” Handel’s one)

      Just asking…

    3. Shouldn’t they have been stockpiling gas for several months but now? A bit late to leave it until mid summer.

    5. Over a period of 15 years, I did a lot of work at the triple gas terminals at Barrow in Furness. About 12 years ago, the South Morecambe fields were becoming depleted so Centrica proposed that the undersea caverns be used for storage, as per the Rough field. It seemed to make a lot of sense but the government said no.
      Germany has about three momnths’ worth of storage, the UK about two weeks.

  52. My first proper cycle ride in 16 weeks, 12 weeks after my hip replacement. Both my bikes are working properly now so off road cycling will soon be possible..I was distracted by aircraft and nearly hit the kerb trying to see them. When I got home a few minutes later my neighbour was out with her camera awaiting a chance to film the Red Arrows who must have been flying from nearby Leeming airfield. They suddenly appeared over our houses in V formation and she got the pictures she needed.
    I notice some Facebook people are also wondering where Mark Steyn has got to. GBNews may have taken him off air after his outrage at the Telford Police Chief and force for ignoring the long term rape abuse of young girls and blaming the victims. The female victim he had interviewed earlier and had been taken from her house by two junior Telford police men for interview was back with Mark to discuss what happened at the Police Station. Either that or the Telford Police are possibly treating him as a person of significance.

    1. Leeming was my first posting in Jan ’61 after training – The 3 Tuns in Northallerton was the section pub and also frequented a pub in Nosterfield

      1. The neighbouring airfield at Dishforth used to be visible from the old A1 and I recall hitching a ride in an MGB and as we passed the long gone Dishforth Roundabout, we noticed a Jet Provost lined up and beginning it’s take off roll.
        The driver floored the accelerator and managed to keep up with the aircraft as it took off.

      2. The neighbouring airfield at Dishforth used to be visible from the old A1 and I recall hitching a ride in an MGB and as we passed the long gone Dishforth Roundabout, we noticed a Jet Provost lined up and beginning it’s take off roll.
        The driver floored the accelerator and managed to keep up with the aircraft as it took off.

    2. This was posted yesterday on Twitter: “Nazarin Veronica @nazarinveronica
      First live interview is with Dan Wootton tomorrow at 9:50pm on GB News. The live interview with Mark Steyn is on Monday 25th July at 8pm. I will be joined by @vickyborman – everyone please share this so as many people tune in as possible.”

      ‘Tomorrow’ is obviously ‘today’ now. The information I posted yesterday was incorrect, GB News must have got back to Veronica with a change of dates and times. It is about the bbc 2 tv prog regarding the unvaccinated aired yesterday evening, regarding how the editing was twisted to portray a completely different scenario.

  53. Good afternoon. It’s not terribly attractive to insist on absolutes to those who have been cozened over years to believe that there is always another point of view to be considered. But we are now looking at the immediate and present danger that results from such abdication of moral certainties. Evil, in the shape of the insane, unaccountable, unelected neocons in Washington, is thrusting towards a conflict that they judge may leave the world in ruins, but the ruins, they think, will belong to them.

    Annihilation of much of the world has never, ever, been closer. In the meantime if complacent skepticism is your preference, alas.

    https://tarableu.substack.com/p/the-nation-into-which-i-was-born?sd=pf

  54. President Biden has tested positive for the Coronavirus, albeit with mild symptons.

    5. How many times has he had it now?
      And what’s/who’s he trying to avoid over the next few days?

        1. Must be something/someone his handlers don’t want him involved with. Probably Hunter’s been found out again.

  55. Well – how’s this for service? Lately, the lock on the new (2014) french window started playing up.

    First thing today, I contacted the manufacturers – who told me that they did’t do that sort of thing – I needed a fitter or locksmith. Or I could just “take off the door…” I said I’d like them to send a man – it would be at least 8 weeks and there would be a substantial charge.

    I rang a locksmith this morning at 11. He came at 1.30 – looked at it and shook his head. Nothing wrong with the lock – it’s the door. Gave me two recommendations. Rang first one – “Not our line, I’m afraid.” Rang second – left a message – they rang back with a chap’s number. Rang him at 2.30 – he arrive at 2.45 – and has just gone. He did the needful but “packing two hinges on the door we don’t open that much. All works perfectly. Brilliant. Young chap, too – a mere 74…. £60.

    We are very satisfied customers….

    1. Had similar experience with issues at Mother’s house. Standard response is to search & call small local operator with good Google feedback. No disappointments!

      1. Reminds me of the “interface” between plumbers and electricians… The former urge you to call the latter – who say it’s a job for a plumber…

    2. We have had similar experiences with the repairs to our house after the house inspection that came with the sale – not our business, too small a job, too big a job was the standard response from most of the trades. However, every now and then someone would go out of their way to help.

      Now we are down to arranging all of the utilities to be moved and having similar fun and games. It appears that suppliers cannot accept that you want to close an account, it is always a transfer to their customer retention department where they try to bribe you into staying – the bigger the company, the harder it is to get something done.

      1. I suppose it will make a change to have French Whores in every room rather than French Widows.

      1. Almost certainly. The mftr’s advice was to close it, lock it and leave it for eight weeks to see “if it improves…”

        1. Sometimes the double glazed units expand so much in the heat, it puts the plastic doors under a lot of pressure.

    3. Mine’s got a few flowers open now as well – more pink than peach. Lots of buds, but most years a lot don’t open.

      1. Poisonous Oleanders

        Dear Jd and Nd,
        I don’t want to frighten anybody, but I hope you know that Nerium oleander, while beautiful, is poisonous to many species, especially to dogs. My first university degree in 1962 was in Microbiology and Botany and I spent a lot of time in California, where Oleanders abound and most folk know it is toxic. It’s the tiny hairs on the back of the leaves that do most damage to people handling it. Best to use gloves.

        According to this link: https://firstvet.com/us/articles/poisonous-plants-for-dogs-and-cats-oleander”
        How much oleander is poisonous to dogs?
        All parts of the plant are toxic and only small volumes need to be eaten by your dog or cat to cause illness. There are reports of animals becoming gravely ill by ingesting a few leaves, by eating meat that was cooked on a skewer of oleander, or drinking water that had oleander leaves or flowers in it.

        1. More hysteria I’m afraid. . Most plants are poisonous to animals. The story about the American boy scouts and the skewers was debunked years ago.

        2. Thanks Roughcommon – yes I did know it’s poisonous, but we haven’t got a dog and I don’t think our elderly cat is interested in eating it.

          I’ve had this same plant for nearly 30 years and I’m quite fond of it, so it will be staying. I’ve never actually thought about the toxicity when handling the leaves – I do pick them off when they go yellow, and haven’t been wearing gloves.

          But I will take care when handling it.

  57. The mysterious ways of Disqus. On my new laptop, Win 11 with the latest Firefox, I can’t post any more.
    Had to send this from the phone. 🙄

    1. That I’m surprised at, as Firefox has always been quite stable. What *isn’t* happening?

      1. Everything to do with posting but only here, Going Postal was OK. Oddly, task manager showed it had spawned about 30 processes and the fan had started going. Seems back at present after I deleted the top process…

      2. Everything to do with posting but only here, Going Postal was OK. Oddly, task manager showed it had spawned about 30 processes and the fan had started going. Seems back at present after I deleted the top process…

  58. I had a nap. I woke up very hot.

    Turns out that a giant bear sitting next to you tends to radiate heat. Mongo has also had a brush as he’s been shedding horribly in the hot weather, so I hoovered him as well.

    1. Take him to the seaside as a special treat; he’s a Newfoundland, you could both go swimming and you could pretend to need assistance and he would help you instinctively.
      You would both cool down too.

      1. On a warm day we pootled down to the coast walk and he shot straight into the sea. Came out, then charged back in. Rinse, repeat.

        Getting him OUT of water is the hard bit. He has done life saver training and absolutely loved it. He pulled more than any other dog there.at 3 people in a dinghy because he pulled *with* the tide across the water rather than straight forward. Clever fellow is Mongo, even if he’s named after the Blazing Saddles character.

        1. They love water, particularly salt water.
          We have friends in Oz who own two and are considering getting a third.

          1. They are addictive animals. His head is the size of a football and he still thinks he’s a tiny puppy. Occasionally I’ll be working at my desk and he’ll jump on to it, knocking everything off to sit in my lap. He’s 80 kilos!

            We do have one of his puppies here and he dotes on it. I’ve warned the Warqueen that he’ll be just as big as Mongo but she can’t see how this Jack Russel sized ball of fur could possibly get that big.

          2. Same with Goldens….although they don’t get as big as Newfies. My middle one, Fred, was a very big dog but thought he was a lap dog. I loved my Golden Retrievers so much.

          3. I grew up with cats, but they don’t need you and are a bit grumpy at times – even my Burmese. There is never a time when that giant tail isn’t wagging.

          4. My friends have a young child and their dogs are incredibly protective of the baby.

  59. Boris Johnson’s advice to his successor was to keep close to America and to assist Ukraine.

    In that advice alone the fat pig shows his utter disdain for the national interests of the UK. We should be giving the Biden Obama administration a very wide berth and should have nothing whatever to do with the proxy American Neocon war in Ukraine.

    Johnson should have implored his successor to correct his mistakes of which there are many. How about putting in place the actions promised and upon which the Tories were elected with a fabulous majority? History will judge the charlatan Johnson very harshly. In my view he and his cabal including the dimwits Whitty, von Taam, the Imperial mob and the rest should be on trial for malfeasance in public office and crimes against humanity.

    1. Well said Corim. Collectively they are probably taking massive financial bungs from somewhere. I can’t see any normal human being behaving in the same way as these people do. They have no morals.

        1. But,…… the base of the triangle is its strongest point and that’s where the morals come to rest.

  60. ‘Night All

    Awkward……..

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3d77992306f4a043321ea5ce534b413f242a5efbaa325edd29467f703da2b1b4.jpg

    But who would expect anything else from the Al-Beeb

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/97d3b193feb1c70a06f8f6f990a187be3d0896c007a37ed4f44566f5ba670535.jpg

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e590e2000eb8c014d46173f1a7ef5193a576a34ee39a28498da944d2d30d4681.jpg

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/09f13bb7dcc0b6baa41e9f597875612beeeaf35e0de6cb6da5cbaab3a33a1a06.jpg

  61. I read in the Wail that Global Fishi is planning to appoint as Chairman of the Party …(wait for it,wait for it…) Matt Halfcock.

    Now you’d have thought he would have has hands full….

    2. The Mail also suggested that Jeremy Hunt, Grant Shapps and Theresa Coffey would have senior positions in a new Cabinet.
      No doubt the BBC will loyally suggest that it’s a fresh start…

      1. Shitts? The man who fails at everything he touches….DVLA; Heathrow; Railways….

        1. Better make him Chancellor then. With the UK’s debt at the same level as the Weimar Republic’s, failure to save the currency is a foregone conclusion.

          Bet they make Kemi Chancellor though, hoping that people will blame her for the the currency collapse and the CBDC.

          1. I don’t think Untrussworthy will want Badenoch in her govt – except in some very unimportant position.

          2. Dunno – her profile’s now high enough that she could be quite a thorn in the leader’s side if she’s outside the tent.

  62. That’s me for tonight. Hope you have a spiffing evening.

    Hope to join you tomorrow.

    3. Fart and you’ve got a jacuzzi

      That was the caption the first time I saw that picture.

  64. My mother in law has just been tested positive for covid . She’s 89 years old – we were with her in Bath a week ago for her birthday and she seemed fine then .

    2. My Mother, a decrepit 93-year old, tested positive last autumn – caught in hospital. Apparently, it just slowed her down a bit. Hope your Ma-in-law has the same reaction.

      1. I hope your mother is now in fine fettle – they made them tough – that generation . Thank you.

  65. ‘It feels like a third world country down here’: Beach hut owners up in arms over public urination

    The male and female facilities on Bournemouth promenade were demolished to make way for an eco education centre, which has not yet opened

    Tracy Warren, 58, said: “They have taken away the big toilet block and put an eco hub in its place and replaced it with a handful of toilets. They are totally inadequate. Sometimes it feels like a third world country down here. The local council has taken away a public facility and replaced it with an eco hub which nobody can use. It is a vanity project which the council deemed more important than the most basic of human needs.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/07/21/visitors-use-back-beach-huts-toilets-since-council-pulled-block/

    Much of Britain is like the third world, Ms Warren. You don’t have to go the big city either. Just walk down any ordinary high street in the English midlands.

  66. ‘It feels like a third world country down here’: Beach hut owners up in arms over public urination

    The male and female facilities on Bournemouth promenade were demolished to make way for an eco education centre, which has not yet opened

    Tracy Warren, 58, said: “They have taken away the big toilet block and put an eco hub in its place and replaced it with a handful of toilets. They are totally inadequate. Sometimes it feels like a third world country down here. The local council has taken away a public facility and replaced it with an eco hub which nobody can use. It is a vanity project which the council deemed more important than the most basic of human needs.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/07/21/visitors-use-back-beach-huts-toilets-since-council-pulled-block/

    Much of Britain is like the third world, Ms Warren. You don’t have to go the big city either. Just walk down any ordinary high street in the English midlands.

  67. ‘It feels like a third world country down here’: Beach hut owners up in arms over public urination

    The male and female facilities on Bournemouth promenade were demolished to make way for an eco education centre, which has not yet opened

    Tracy Warren, 58, said: “They have taken away the big toilet block and put an eco hub in its place and replaced it with a handful of toilets. They are totally inadequate. Sometimes it feels like a third world country down here. The local council has taken away a public facility and replaced it with an eco hub which nobody can use. It is a vanity project which the council deemed more important than the most basic of human needs.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/07/21/visitors-use-back-beach-huts-toilets-since-council-pulled-block/

    Much of Britain is like the third world, Ms Warren. You don’t have to go the big city either. Just walk down any ordinary high street in the English midlands.

    1. These are people who run around a field playing lacrosse while pretending to ride on broomsticks.
      It is safe to say that they aren’t the sharpest knives in the drawer.

          3. A book’s copyright is owned by the author…she may have given approval for the movies but the books are hers alone. She owns those copyrights.
            If you look on the verso page of any book, it will give you the name of the author, date of publication and date of copyright. Even today, if someone wants to quote lines from a poem or song in a novel, they have to get copyright release. In some books you will see the disclaimer…..every attempt has been made to trace the owner of the copyright of…..blah, blah. If you own the copyright or know who does, please contact the publisher.

    3. They should insert their broomstick into their anuses, I’m sure they would enjoy the game even more.

      1. After first smearing the handles with the fat in which “magic mushrooms” have been cooked.

        This is where the legend of witches riding on broomsticks probably originated where the broom handles were used as dildos.

        2. I could present a small dissertation about that but will spare you. Most of the broomstick stuff was hallucinatory. Especially in Massachusetts where people were eating all sorts of plants, herbs that they hadn’t encountered before.

    1. From the above, I deduce that the public sector and academia are the problems.

      1. Fortunately the pubic sector is the perfect vehicle to determine male & female beyond a shadow of doubt!

          2. Well I don’t think the screw would be there at delivery. But would more than likely play a part at conception….

      2. Certainly in the case of the NHS worker the judge seems to be an expert at woke! And as for the Anthropologists – I doubt the people they are working on had the time or luxury to worry about such carp – probably too busy trying to stay alive!

        1. Ah, here we are – the Telegaffe report on the NHS “incident”. The transgender “woman” was apparently in a single sex [female] changing room, and naked from the waist down. Some women obviously felt uncomfortable with that and were fairly robust about it – the half wit who was the employment judge said, when awarding compensation, “It did not seem to the tribunal likely that there would have been a concern about a cisgender woman in a state of undress while changing..” Well that’s almost certainly because cisgender women, getting changed in a female only changing room, don’t have a penis! Absolute stupidity!

    2. Noah Webster was a retard and an imbecile who wished to make a name for himself. In the same manner that Henry Ford wished to distance himself from the British Empire by making his vehicles left-hand drive; Webster sought fame and immortality by bastardising the English language to make many pronunciations and spellings more “American”. That is why Americans now speak and spell their version of the “English” language in such a weird and incomprehensible manner.

      Certain scholars in the USA, though, thought he was going too far with some of his “simplifications”. They rejected the following words, every one of them proposed by Webster:

      ‘Ake’ for ache.
      ‘Cloke’ for cloak.
      ‘Dawter’ for daughter.
      ‘Greef’ for grief.
      ‘Grotesk’ for grotesque.
      ‘Iland’ for island.
      ‘Masheen’ for machine.
      ‘Porpess’ for porpoise.
      ‘Soop’ for soup.
      ‘Steddy’ for steady.
      ‘Wimmin’ for women.

      Only the last one being adopted, belatedly, by certain Women’s movements.

      Nothing that the Merriam-Webster dictionary proposes will ever shock me, no matter how risible or preposterous.

      1. A very strange bloke
        His is the only English dictionary in the world that doesn’t include the word gullible, because he thought it was offensive to those so described.
        Not a lot of people know that.

    3. Any woman finding herself in such a situation should kick the bloke between the legs as hard as they can and tell their bosses that they thought he had his prick out because he was going to rape them and claim self defence

  70. Last post. I have been reflecting all day on family matters, and the things that will outlast us all.

    20 years ago, the MR and I stayed at a hidden away hotel in deepest France. After checking in and unpacking – we went for a walk in open country. We wandered along a path which had obviously had spoil from quarry dumped and flattened to make a track for farm vehicles.

    Looking down and pondering about nothing in particular, my eye was caught by an odd shaped piece of flint. I used my room key to loosen it.

    It was – without a shadow of doubt – a hand axe. Later I showed it to a French mate who is a world expert on these things. He told me that it was
    between 30,000 and 100,000 years old.

    It has pride of place on the kitchen dresser. I marvel every time I see it – like every day! Something even older than I am…

    1. Photo please.

      I found a shaped stone in the River Plym. It was about 12 inches long, wedge shaped and a flat chisel like edge at the thin end. It fitted in one’s hand perfectly. If it wasn’t shaped by a man mother nature did a splendid job of fashioning a useful tool.

      1. Probably what were once thought of as hand held Stone Age tools known as Eoliths but which were subsequently thought to be naturally occurring.

    2. It is interesting that a world expert in such matters would give such a large range, yet experts in Covid/climate change/vaccinations/economics try to tell us that their equivalent ranges are +/- a relatively small number

    3. On a smaller scale, I never cease to be amazed that Firstborn’s farmhouse, a 2 storey log cabin (with nice outer dressing) predates the US independence. And it’s just an ordinary, small farmhouse. Older than the USA.

    4. Did you put an advert in the local paper to see if you could find the owner had lost it?

    5. Did you put an advert in the local paper to see if you could find the owner had lost it?

    6. With luck it’ll be found again, and used as a template, after we’re all nuked back into the stone age.

  72. I was just thinking if Truss wins and Abbott becomes Labour leader then PMQ’s will be known as the
    Truss Abbott show

  73. The anti Sunak campaign needs a slogan, how about:

    “hi risk anus, a vote for that bloke is a vote for a scrote”

  75. Good evening all. This is from TakiMag and allegedly relates to rape in the USA. The trouble is, would I have believed it if it had all occured in this country? You bet I would! It happens here – exactly the same:

    ‘Ohio Man’ Rapes 10-Year-Old
    Ann Coulter,July 21, 2022
    I, for one, am tickled pink that our ruling class has finally come out against child rape. This is something new. For several decades now, the position of government officials, both political parties, think tanks, the Bush family, district attorneys and the entire media has been: We’re going to foist primitive, peasant cultures on America and then lie to the public about how this is changing our country.

    We recently found out about one big way that third-world immigrants are enriching us. Soon after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, the media began talking nonstop about a “10-year-old rape victim” who couldn’t get an abortion in Ohio and had to travel to Indiana. The “10-year-old rape victim” was discussed on a loop on MSNBC and even made it into a speech by President Joe Biden.

    “Unfortunately, our media are too busy reporting on apocryphal gang rapes to bother mentioning the epidemic of child rape by immigrants from peasant cultures pouring into our country by the million.”

    But then, a bunch of spoilsports started questioning whether “10-year-old rape victim” existed. The attorney general of Ohio said on July 12 he had no evidence of a 10-year-old rape victim, despite the reporting of such a crime being mandatory.

    With their backs against the wall, the pro-abortion crowd broke longstanding strictures against mentioning the rapey-ness of our “New Americans” by producing the rapist: Gerson Fuentes, 27, an illegal alien from Guatemala.

    Oh, now I see.

    The abortion ladies thought they could get away with revealing the child rape victim, while refusing to reveal the child rape perpetrator. When that failed, they wantonly defied the rest of their coalition and told the truth about one of the Democrats’ pets, an illegal immigrant.

    Once the pro-abortion crowd identified the rapist, nothing about the story was surprising. It has all the earmarks of an immigrant child rape:

    The crime is particularly vile — CHECK!
    The raping had been going on for some time — CHECK!
    The mother defended her daughter’s rapist — CHECK!
    The rapist is shocked that anyone thinks he did anything wrong — CHECK!

    Luckily, I am Johnny on the Spot when it comes to immigrant child-rapists, having included nearly 100 such cases in my book “Adios, America!” — as well as the sensational, flood-the-zone news coverage the U.S. media devote to criminal immigrants. (Sarcasm.)

    As far as I know, there’s only one group in the country trying to keep a running tally of immigrant child rapes: North Carolinians for Immigration Reform and Enforcement (NCFire.info). Here’s NCFire’s list of illegal immigrant child rapists in North Carolina, so far this year.

    2022 Monthly Child Rapes by Illegal Aliens:

    6. June 2022: 20 illegal aliens arrested for 42 child rape/child sexual assault charges
    5. May 2022: 18 illegal aliens arrested for 42 child rape/child sexual assault charges
    4. April 2022: 19 illegal aliens arrested for 72 child rape/child sexual assault charges
    3. March 2022: 30 illegal aliens arrested for 110 child rape/child sexual assault charges
    2. February 2022: 27 illegal aliens arrested for 84 child rape/child sexual assault charges
    1. January 2022: 18 illegal aliens arrested for 96 child rape/child sexual assault charges

    Again, that’s only in a single state. And only when the immigrant is illegal.

    WHY DOESN’T THE PUBLIC KNOW ABOUT THIS?

    Unfortunately, our media are too busy reporting on apocryphal gang rapes by the Duke lacrosse team and “frat boys” at the University of Virginia to bother mentioning the epidemic of child rape by immigrants from peasant cultures pouring into our country by the million.

    How far into the stories about UVA and Duke did you have to read to find out that the (falsely) accused rapists were “privileged white men”?

    By contrast, whenever the media deign to mention an immigrant rapist, the story will appear in — at most — one local newspaper. Further, both the heinous nature of the crime and the immigration status of the rapist will be hidden. (How about a news report on the Duke lacrosse case, appearing exclusively in the local paper at the bottom of page A-18, titled, “Area Men Arrested.”)

    In 2013, an illegal alien from Guatemala, German Rolando Vicente-Sapon, was convicted of kidnapping his 16-year-old cousin, transporting her to the U.S. (also illegally), and holding her as his sex slave for years.

    Only one newspaper in the country reported the story: the Chattanooga Times Free Press.

    Quiz: Was the headline —

    “Illegal Alien Sentenced for Incest, Child Rape, Kidnapping and Sex Slavery,” OR
    “Man Guilty in Case of Human Smuggling”?

    I think you know the answer.

    There’s no question that the national media would never have breathed a word about the Fuentes case — but for the doubters. So a big shoutout to the feminists for putting abortion-on-demand above open borders. If only politicians cared as much about our country as pro-choicers do about abortion.

    2. Probably a strong reason why the American government have been trying to ban the possession and ownership of fire arms.
      Revenge could be messy. But justified.

    3. Both the cases mentioned above, the Duke lacrosse case and the UVA frat boys, were extensively reported at the time, about 2006 and mid-2000, (can’t quite remember) and both proved to be false allegations and cases dismissed. I have rarely found Ann Coulter to be accurate in her reporting, but that, of course, is my opinion.

      1. Yes, I remember some of that also. So much stuff is being regurgitated for supposed impact.

      2. Thank you Jill, that is very useful. My take on it was that it is the type of thing that has been happening over here, again and again, where uninvited incomers have in some case systematically raped children, and the police, press and politicians did nothing/deliberately hid the matter. It got to the stage, as you know, where the MP Naz Shah even publicly endorsed a comment to the effect that the victims should “shut up for the sake of diversity”. Which goes to show that Ms Shah might be considered indicative of the unacceptably self-entitled attitude of a section of the diverse, herself.

        As for Ann Coulter, I don’t really know much about her and haven’t read much of her work – but I tried to cover this by describing the article as “allegedly relating to rape in the USA”.

        Substantially edited as previous version inadvertently “sent” before I had finished it.

  76. The presenter standing in for Mark Steyn tonight has just said Mark will be back in place next week in a blaze of glory. I look forward to seeing him back at work.

    1. Yes! I feared that his very good vaxx injury special had given OfCom the excuse they were looking for to take him off air.

      1. If a person’s born with bollocks he’s a bloke,
        If a person’s born with bollocks he’s a bloke,
        If a person’s born with bollocks,
        Though they call him Betty Swollocks,
        If a person’s born with bollocks he’s a bloke!

        Chorus:-
        You can shove your Trannie bullshit up your arse,
        You can shove your Trannie bullshit up your arse,
        You can shove your Trannie bullshit,
        It’s really such a farce,
        You can shove your Trannie bullshit up your arse!

        If a baby’s got a fanny, it’s a girl,
        If a baby’s got a fanny, it’s a girl,
        If a baby’s got a fanny,
        Just like your dear old Grannie,
        If a baby’s got a fanny, it’s a girl!

        If a baby’s got a willie, it’s a boy,
        If a baby’s got a willie, it’s a boy,
        If a baby’s got a willie,
        Don’t start being silly,
        If a baby’s got a willie, it’s a boy!

  78. A change of pace because I am sick to death of politics and attendant BS.
    The Lake House of Horrors earlier.
    Being good- for once- and tidied the kitchen and put out the recycling. Washed my paws and went for a tinkle. Sitting on the loo and noticed copious blood dripping onto my thigh. WTF is that coming from said I- looked at my arm and it was pouring blood. I think I cut my arm on a can going into recycling.
    Only a small cut and duly washed and cleaned but blimey, what a lot of blood a small gash can produce.
    Always bloody something. Am sure I will live with careful nursing:-)))

    1. That sounds worrying! Are you on blood thinners? Something bit me while I was pottering in the garden, but I seldom see blood from a cut, except a tiny bit if I stab my fingers.

      1. No, I do not take any pills etc.
        There is a PS to this- one of the cans was a baked beans can which MH felt impelled to eat overnight. A whole can! To quote the Goons…it’s been hell in here today 😉
        Baked beans will be under lock and key from now on.
        PS I cannot be serious any more- enough is enough.
        Let the frivolity begin.

          3. Only because they fall off the knife, when the beans are fed to the Orficers, by the stewards, in the Wardroom

          4. I loved them as a kid but not so much now. MH loves them- and we had the proof last night;-)

        2. Yo Lottie

          “baked beans can which MH felt impelled to eat overnight,”
          Shirley, it shold have cut him, when he ate it

          The Scientific/Medical name for baked beans is Fartleberries

          Hope that you are all OK now

        3. I sympathise! Once got a note on headed Asprey paper asking me *never* to feed my other half (who worked there) Jerusalem artichokes ever again 🤣

    2. Help! If I bleed on the loo it means my piles are playing up. A nice surgeon at Imperial NHS has offered to remove them but it’s very painful surgery and I’m a coward.

      4. I have had a haemorrhoidectomy. The surgery itself is not painful. A little discomfort afterwards for a few days. That’s it. Well worth getting it sorted.

    3. Be careful and watch where the cut was. My husband had a small cut from the blade of a gardening tool, it started swelling around the cut after a few days. While seeing the doctor for something else, he mentioned the swelling and when the doctor saw it he immediately gave him an anti-tetanus injection, after which the swelling went down.

  79. Goodnight and God bless, fellow GentleNoTTLers until the morning’s light – about 04:30 these days.

  80. Right, that’s me off to bed.
    I see we’re forecast a bit more rain than we had today.

    Goodnight all.

    2. Just keep the rain away for end Aug, start of September, we are going to be Licking Pennies again

    1. They knock down statues of people who brought prosperity to the town, then allow Murdering Confidence Trixters to move in?

      Woke UK, or is it WoUKe in 2022

      1. 354527+ up ticks,

        Evening OLT,
        The madness is via the ballot booth, time & again with more to come.

  83. Evening, all. Winter appears to have set in today; it’s been dull and overcast. Ah well, summer was good while it lasted 🙂

Comments are closed.