Thursday 20 October: NHS maternity failings highlight the need for root-and-branch reform

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  2. Time for a military solution to the rabble in the Commons and flooding over the channel?

        2. No.

          Hunt would be lying on his back, wiggling in the hope of getting a biscuit from Brussels.

      3. And the wind is blowing in all directions, as shown by the way the people are leaning.

  10. It speaks volumes that Gove and Hunt have got rid of Braverman and Kwarteng, but not Coffey. They will probably try to sell Coffey to us as a right winger that everyone can relate to next.
    The media slant has been appalling. The Mail can’t mention the mini-Budget without the qualifying adjective “disastrous” in front of it. They did their best to spook the markets!

  12. Morning, all. Returned from a short getaway on Oulton Broad yesterday.
    Mild here in N Essex.

    With the Shitshow at the Palace of Westminster Theatre of Farce taking its umpteenth encore I thought I’d see what my MP is up to. He’s a junior minister at Health and has clearly not heard a peep about the problems with the “vaccine” and certainly not the revelations from Naomi Wolf with regard to pregnancy. Clearly he’s following the ‘party line’ as evidenced by the retweet below – if CV-19 with its spike protein is considered dangerous then why, in this immunologist’s learned opinion, is the “vaccine” that creates many, many more times the number of that pathogen around a pregnant woman’s body, considered safe and a must have during pregnancy?

    https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1582257670500732928

  13. How an almighty migration row led Suella Braverman to turn against Liz Truss. 20 October 2022.

    The darling of Tory right was forced to resign after ‘fiery’ showdown with the PM and new Chancellor over watering down immigration target.

    The fuse for Suella Braverman’s resignation was lit on Tuesday night when she had a heated face-to-face row with Liz Truss and Jeremy Hunt, her new Chancellor, over their demands to soften her stance on bringing down immigration.

    Friends said the Home Secretary was appalled that they wanted her to announce a liberalisation of immigration to make it easier for the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) to say the Government would hit its growth targets – a key plank in Mr Hunt’s strategy to restore market confidence.

    Braverman didn’t understand when she took the job that the Home Secretaries role is to lie and take the flak for the Governments real immigration policy!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/10/19/how-almighty-migration-row-led-suella-braverman-turn-against/

      1. It’s been said Shitts became rich from taking bungs from developers.
        Ambition achieved, but damage not yet done.

        1. Here’s Wiki on the subject …
          In September 2012, Google blacklisted 19 of the Shapps’ business websites for violating rules on copyright infringement related to the web scraping-based TrafficPayMaster software sold by them. Shapps’s web marketing business’s 20/20 Challenge publication also drew criticism. It cost $497 and promised customers earnings of $20,000 in 20 days. Upon purchase, the “toolkit” was revealed to be an ebook, advising the user to create their own toolkit and recruit 100 “Joint Venture Partners” to resell it for a share of the profits.

          Shapps’s use of the names Michael Green, Corinne Stockheath and Sebastian Fox attracted controversy in 2012. He denied having used a pseudonym after entering parliament and, in 2014, threatened legal action against a constituent who had stated on Facebook that he had. In February 2015, he publicly said: “I don’t have a second job and have never had a second job while being an MP. End of story.”

          However, in March 2015, Shapps admitted to having had a second job while being an MP, and practising business under a pseudonym. In his admission, he stated that he had “over-firmly denied” having a second job. In March 2015, Dean Archer, the constituent previously threatened with legal action by Shapps, threatened Shapps with legal action

    2. What scum these politicians are. We need something better than this. I am glad i am 75 and not 25.

    3. With the exceptions of successfully running my home budget, for 50 years with the help of my late wife, and my small work’s budget, I will admit I’m uneducated in matters of economics. Therefore, I’m baffled how importing untold numbers of immigrants, many illegal and quite useless together costing billions of pounds that the UK doesn’t have to feed and house them, will boost growth. I can only conclude it’s a scam created with figures, but I’m quite open to be corrected.

      1. Maggie was sneered at for using the household budget balancing – and the housewife’s basket – as an example of how to manage the national finances.
        All those clever money people have spent forty years telling us she was wrong.

      2. Our island home is far from self-sufficient in energy and food and has chronic trade deficit and a housing shortage. So, bring in more bods, obvs!

      3. It is indeed a scam, Korky. ‘The Treasury Model’ of the UK economy is spoken of in hushed tones around the world because (a) it was one of the first, and (b) it is less bad than many other countries’ models [or at least used to be in days of old – I don’t know the current situation.] But when one explores the model’s innards it includes all sorts of rot & nonsense which run counter to common sense but give an artificial answer which tracks historical UK performance. Think climate change modelling…it’s all crap or outright lies based on fudges to come up with answers the modeller wants.

  15. Good morning, all. Rained in the night. More on the way later.

    Still there is she? The Government of NONE of the Talents?

    1. And since you wagered on this ‘ere blog that she would be gone by opening of business on Wednesday, you owe 1/- to each and every NoTTLer. COUGH UP

  16. 366343+ up ticks,

    Morning Each,

    Thursday 20 October: NHS maternity failings highlight the need for root-and-branch reform

    Completely pointless without first getting fresh political blood / parties into the governing chairs.
    Seemingly there is a call building for an opposition party all well & good,sorely needed.

    Learn from recent history if forming a party from an amalgamation of fringe parties to seriously check the new party hierarchy.

    There is a serious cause for doubt of some & you do not have to dig to far for the truth if the truth is needed.

    What is truly NOT needed is a repress,replace,rebuild, a Mk2 reset tory (ino) party.

    One hotel has vacancies, namely the last chance hotel & courtesy of the lab/lib/con coalition we have just arrived.

    IMHO we MUST analyse each potential leader, any hint of doubt / OUT.

    Membership fee at £25 a pop to much to put
    into carpetbaggers wallets, and they are waiting in attendance, better a zillion members at a £1.

  18. France is now more dangerous than Mexico. 20 October 2022.

    An editorial in Wednesday’s Le Figaro was headlined ‘Guilty Silence’ stated that only 6 per cent of foreigners living in France illegally were expelled in 2021 (down from 13 per cent in 2017), and said the government must get a grip on the situation to ensure there are no more Lolas. On Wednesday afternoon government spokesman Olivier Veran conceded that when it came to expelling illegal residents ‘we obviously have to do better’.

    For years the ruling class in France has rejected any link between immigration and crime, but slowly the omerta is cracking. Last week a book was published by Didier Lallement, until July the chief of police in Paris. Entitled The Necessary Order, the book is a damning indictment of the lawlessness endemic in the capital, where ‘one out of every two crimes are committed by a foreigner, often in an irregular situation’. This statistic was referenced by Le Pen in her question to Elisabeth Borne.

    Figures like this are of course unavailable in the UK where everything is concealed by a Woke Civil Service and the compliant MSM. We do know that the Mass Rape of thousands of indigenous young girls has taken place with the active connivance of the authorities but this is only if you read Nottl or its equivalents. There is no doubt that this silence is intentional and part of a program of White Genocide.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/-france-is-now-more-dangerous-than-mexico

    1. I wonder just who are these people that are trying to get revenge on white people really are?
      I have my suspicions.

      3. It’s the same as when people make a play on slavery…..again zzz.
        Get over it it happened and now you live on paradise islands, with the odd weather hiccup of course. Places where people pay fortunes for a holiday.
        But none of the continualy moaning inhabitants have ever gone back to Africa and made their decision to return.
        Just shut up.

    2. France not doing well expelling illegal immigrants? I think the French are doing extremely well – they’re sending them all to the UK in rubber boats!

    3. Mark Steyn is very hot on this topic on GBNews. So much so that I am never entirely sure that he will be able to appear on his TV show.

      2. Once the West decided to intervene in Ukraine it was inevitable that the War would metastasise and spread leading to a direct confrontation with all that that entails!

  21. Good morrow, Gentlefolk – todays’s funny:

    Short & Sweet – But Not Very PC – 2

    Top tip; if you’re camping in the summer and the attractive girl in the next tent tells you that because it’s so hot she will be sleeping with her flaps open, it’s not necessarily an invitation to casual sex.
    Wish me luck; I appear in court next Monday.

    I took my Biology exam last Friday. I was asked to name two things commonly found in cells. Apparently “Blacks” and “Pakis” were not the correct answers.

    A fat girl served me food in McDonald’s at lunch time. She said ‘sorry about the wait.’
    I said ‘don’t worry fatty, you’re bound to lose it eventually’

    I walked past a black kid sitting at a Bus Stop as I came out of the Bank. He looked at me and said ’Any Change?’ I said ‘Nope! You’re still Black’

    Snow in the forecast! The TV weather gal said she was expecting 8 inches tonight.
    I thought to myself “fat chance with a face like that!”

    An Irish boy stands crying at the side of the road. A man asks ‘What is wrong’? The boy says ‘Me ma is dead’
    ‘Oh bejaysus’ the man says ‘Do you want me to call Father O’Riley for you’?
    The boy replies ‘No tanks mister, Sex is the last ting on my moind at the moment’.

    I have a new pick up line that works every time. It doesn’t matter how gorgeous or out of my league a woman might be, this line is a winner & I always end up in bed with them.
    Here’s how it goes ‘Excuse me love, could I ask your opinion? Does this damp cloth smell like chloroform to you?’

    Years ago it was suggested that an apple a day kept the doctor away. But since all the doctors are now Muslim, I’ve found that a bacon sandwich works best!

    Japanese scientists have now created a camera with such an immense shutter speed that it is now possible to take a photograph of a woman with her mouth closed.

    I hate all this terrorist business. I used to love the days when you could look at an unattended bag on a train or bus and think to yourself ‘I’m having that’

    Man in a hot air balloon is lost over Ireland. He looks down and sees a farmer in the fields and shouts to him ‘Where am I’? The Irish farmer looks back up and shouts back ‘Ya canna kid me ya flash bastard. You’re in that feckin basket’.

    My neighbour knocked on my door at 2:30 am this morning; can you believe that 2:30 a.m.?
    Luckily for him I was still up playing my Bagpipes.

    I sat on the train this morning opposite a stunning Thai girl. I kept thinking to myself, please don’t get an erection, please don’t get an erection…but she did.

    1. The only way for Walker, and the remaining few like-minded individuals in the Tory party who want to save conservatism, is to resign the Whip and join Reform. The Tory party has been taken over by a bunch of globalist desperadoes and is lost to the electorate.

      1. That’s the test they won’t take or pass.
        They are all too self centred to make an honest stand. Too worried about their gold plated pensions and thousand in take home expenses.
        Which is basically why most of them entered plotting…..whoops, politics, in the beginning.
        The w-hole of Westminster is a massive public centred stich up by 650 snidy AHs.

    5. Ok interesting he was basically saying she was only pug forward to the members’ vote by MPs who wanted to further their own ambition. Do we know who he thinks should have been put forward to the members’ vote? Or does he even think the party members should be allowed a say?

      (I think most members would have wanted Kemi and/or Suella on the ballot)

  24. Good morning all.
    A dark, drizzly and misty start to the morning with a rather mild 8°C outside.

    So, we’ve had a putsch against the British people.

  25. Morning all 🤔☔
    I suspect for many of us it’s been chucking it down. We had 3 massive thunder claps before 8 of the clock. ⚡🌧

  26. To market to look out for a halal pig. Back son. It is very mild – and not raining YET. Due about 11.

    1. And for every one of them, there’s 100 men pouring in. None should be here. Return them to france as you should have from the outset. Stop this slave trade.

  29. Bloody Hell! It’s a chuffing cloudburst outside!
    A stream running down the road due to blocked drainage gullies.

    2. Now show the real story – most of the people being ‘rescued’ by the RNLI are young men – at least 90%.

      2. I see nothing shameful about wanting to stop slavery, economic ruin and the theft of property form those who need it.

        If this Mike fellow wants to pay for these criminal immigrants he’s welcome to.

      1. 366343+ up ticks,

        Morning M,
        Sufficient material for gullible fools, and there is a multitude of them in attendance otherwise we would noway be as deep in the shite as we are.

    7. So stop going out. You know why they do it. if you didn’t, then they would stop. It’s that flipping simple.

  31. Only a handful of Tory MPs are real and proper Tories.

    From Boris being a Libertarian to Truss with Libdem leanings .. sadly we have a Conservative party with no proper identity.

    1. Good morning Beautiful Veracity

      As you say: Only a handful of Tory MPs are real and proper Tories.

      But why don’t those MPs in that handful resign their seats? They could then join Richard Tice and if there are enough of them it might wipe out the Conservative Party’s majority and force a general election. After all these MPs have absolutely nothing to gain by staying in the Conservative Party and everything to gain by leaving it.

      1. Good morning Richard

        Personally, I feel a GE now would be a very bad idea .

        Labour have some terrifying crude mendacious termagants, and many evil reds under the beds ..

        I would prefer the devil I know , than the devil I don’t .

        1. Whatever happens, Maggie, we will get a lefty government, unless ‘Reform’ and ‘Reclaim’ amalgamate and can put a candidate in EVERY seat.

        2. Perhaps just One good thing might come out of it. This illegal invasion will harm more labour people than it will affect the richer conservative voters. So maybe the left might revolt when they learn the next government will be building more and more council houses on their doorsteps.

  32. Just been out to clear the rainwater gullies and I’ve just discovered my wellies are both holed!
    At least I’ve a couple of spare pairs I’ve not worn yet.

  33. United Kingdom – Historical Population Data
    Year Population Growth Rate
    1970 55,650,166 0.41%

    The current population of the United Kingdom is 68,702,825 as of Wednesday, October 19, 2022, based on Worldometer elaboration of the latest United Nations data.

    I am surprised the National Grid has coped with the increase in population and new homes etc .

  34. United Kingdom – Historical Population Data
    Year Population Growth Rate
    1970 55,650,166 0.41%

    The current population of the United Kingdom is 68,702,825 as of Wednesday, October 19, 2022, based on Worldometer elaboration of the latest United Nations data.

    I am surprised the National Grid has coped with the increase in population and new homes etc .

    1. Another example of not reading the truth and believing the ‘fact-checkers’.

      Stupid people and brainwashing their children.

    2. Hopefully they’ll all travel to the Ukraine in the family minibus to give succour and food parcels.

  37. I loved this letter

    SIR – The report (October 14) on paving slabs and OCD reminded me of the obsession colleagues of mine had in the 1960s, on returning from two years sledging with dogs in the Antarctic.

    They would step only on the white sections of a zebra crossing, avoiding the black bits, because sledging on crevassed glaciers had made them wary of anything dark.

    Peter Kennett
    Sheffield, South Yorkshire

    I am right handed but why do I ( when I am wearing socks ) put my left sock on first ..

    1. Good morning TB, and everyone.
      I particularly enjoy the letters where some double entendre may have been missed by the Letters Editor, e.g. “made them wary of anything dark”
      And recently there was a reference to Mr Sunak being “head and shoulders above” other candidates.

    2. I always hang my washing out in the same order and the same way. I sort it out as I go and always pair up the socks.

    2. The old style batteries, zinc/carbon with a sal ammoniac electrolyte, were not so bad to burn.
      The later alkaline cells, using mercury were not so safe.

  39. Is there a single pledge that Truss has not been forced to abandon by the puppeteers pulling Hunt’s strings?

    Can there be any other conclusion other than that the Remainers are more than happy for the Conservative Party to collapse and for the Labour government to take us back into the EU under far worse terms than before?

      2. Far simpler, beat them senseless, splint the bones then have them clean their damage.

        I’m just waiting for someone to point out that they’re not plant based and would they please get rid of themselves first.

  42. ‘Fart tax my a**e’: Farmers hit the streets across New Zealand to protest Jacinda Ardern’s ‘burp and fart’ animal tax aimed at tackling climate change
    Convoys of vehicles disrupted traffic in Wellington and Auckland, as protestors demanded the government ditch plans for an animal ‘burp and fart’ tax
    PM Jacinda Ardern touted ‘world first’ levy on emissions of methane and nitrous oxide produced by the nation’s six million cows and 26 million sheep
    Thousands of farmers gathered brandishing signs saying the policy ‘stinks’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11334901/New-Zealand-farmers-protest-livestock-burp-fart-tax.html

    2. She is ignorant, small minded and spiteful. I doubt she understands anything about farming whatsoever.

      Of course, her real aim is to tax meat and dairy production for her masters. For that, she should be flogged.

        2. People do that when they are lied to and misled Bill, Heath, Blair, Brown, Cameron, Trudeau and most of the American side of politics.

      1. But possibly more in charge of their own sense of duty than all these dick heads and divots we see before us.

      2. You forget that any holder of one of the four Great Offices of State is entitled to a special pension, very generous.

    1. When we won in 2016 and got an earful off a chum, I told him then that ‘they’ would never let us leave.

      It shut him up because at that point he realised just how disgusting our political system was and how misdirected his anger was. Leaving would always bring a degree of chaos as many things had to change, but the state wouldn’t even consider it. That would mean not getting what IT wanted.

      So it has spent 6 years doing as much damage as it can with the sole intent of destroying the country so there is, ultimately no choice. After the blob gets what it wants all the issues will disappear. I’d bet something will even be done about gimmigration.

      1. 366343+ up ticks,

        Morning W,
        I got the message on victory day awakening after the build up of every post of mine finishing with “build on the UKIP party” only to hear “We have won, job done no longer a need for UKIP” then the lunatics went back to supporting the very pro same eu asset parties once again.

        Really to describe them as thick as pigshite is an insult to the porky fraternity.

        The current electorate majority are a continuing danger to the nations children and most definitely the Nation.

  46. The Money Exchanges are doing their best to indicate to Ms Truss that the game is up. Despite the ‘heroic’ efforts of Mr Hunt (other terms are available) the £Sterling continues its descent to hades…..

    1. And the state makes no reference of that whatsoever where when there were tax cuts they screamed blue murder.

  47. Back from market. Much smaller – because of rain threat. No halal pigs, unfortunately – but £25 worth of French cheese from Tony’s knock-off stall for £7 – and three 100 gram bars of 77% chocolate for £1……

    Fantastic stuff at low, low prices. All perfectly good quality and safe. He buys stuff from wholesalers who know that the sell-by date is too close for supermarkets to be interested. If he didn’t buy and sell on – it would go to waste. We profit.

    Rain held off, too. Just starting now and will last for three hours – nicely watering in the onion sets we planted yesterday.

    Who resigned (or was sacked) while we were out?

          1. Bollox. I weigh the same now as I did 30 years ago. “Slim and fit” my medical adviser calls me. 69kg.

  48. ‘Morning All

    Funny Old World

    “Just step back a moment and consider that the Conservative Party have,

    in the past week, fired a chancellor for wanting to cut taxes and a home

    secretary for wanting to cut immigration.”

    How he feels

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9604e00a4e32c71fde5077a84853dce065ad143dce90d0537d2594a31345b952.jpg

    How I feel……….

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9717c8dc4c451aaaeb616c4b52a83771402eb32c318f943e07e0bd71de952a24.jpg

    1. Mr Melville – you are talking bollocks about “millions of people unable to afford to feed their kids.” They’ll be the ones with the latest smart phones, 60 inch home cinemas, £200 trainers, tattoos ……

      Anyone with grain of common sense CAN feed their children. They just need to THINK….

      Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

      1. Shame these Dopey Wokey idiots weren’t around in the 50s as we all where, they wouldn’t have survived nor be alive now.
        Turn on the heating ?? What a plonker.

        1. We didn’t have ‘heating’ then, did we? Just a coal fire and the gas oven in the kitchen.

          1. We had a coal/wood fire in the lounge and a coke burning boiler/water heater in the kitchen. Single glazing, the curtains were glued to the windows with frost some mornings and we dressed for school under the bed covers. And wore short trousers but long socks, then walked to school and home again, in the dark.

          3. Yep. My mum used to sit in the kitchen with the gas oven door open – she also used to warm her shoes and slippers in there. The coal fire was only for evenings when it was cold. Lots of layers of clothes and bedclothes on the bed. Dress quickly while they were still warm. 1963 was the coldest winter I remember.

          5. It was my second year at work and the frost and snow brought much of the public transport to a standstill.
            The bus i was on skidded onto a roundabout at Belmont circle near Cannons Park. I had to walk home to Mill Hill it too nearly 3 hours. No phone at home. But when I did arrive home around 8:30 pm my dinner was in the oven in the warm kitchen.
            My word I was so grateful.

          6. I was still at school. The youth club closed but school didn’t. I remember we used to sit on the big heating pipes to keep warm.

          9. Mum didn’t get a fridge till after I’d left home. I bought one when I had a young baby to care for, and she got hers just afterwards in 1971. It was a gas fridge.

    1. Could we stop calling them asylum seekers. They are not. They’re criminal welfare gimmigrants.

  51. Well, the rain almost ceased, so I went up & gave the gullies another clear out and then checked on Marie, my next door neighbour, who’s had to move in since her late estranged husband died.
    Gave her a tray of kindling as she’d run out and then got on shifting top soil from where I’m redoing the steps.
    Got 4 bucketfuls shifted to backfill behind the wall before I decided the rain had become a tad TOO heavy to continue, and came in.

    Now about to do a refill of tea!

  55. “You vill choose Jeremy Hunt …. SCHNELL!!!”

    As listeners to my London Calling podcast will know, I’m deeply sceptical about conspiracy theories. Whether it’s the Great Reset or the Plandemic, I’m usually pretty dismissive when my co-host James Delingpole brings them up. Having seen close up how the political sausage is made, I think the idea that politicians are controlled by dark forces or sinister cabals is for the birds. Most of the time, it’s just a group of hapless chancers desperately trying to hold on to their careers as they’re buffeted from pillar to post by a series of unpredictable events. I’m a believer in Hanlon’s Razor: never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

    But my scepticism has been sorely tested by the events of the last few days. The reaction of the bond markets and the currency markets to the mini-budget, the U-turn over cutting the top rate of tax, Kwasi Kwarteng’s defenestration, his replacement by arch-Remainer and Zero Covid zealot Jeremy Hunt and now the sudden departure of sound-as-a-pound Suella Braverman and the elevation of Grant Shapps… it all seems like a globalist coup. Indeed, Suella used the word ’coup’ to describe the attempts to discredit the mini-budget at the Conservative Party Conference.

    Liz Truss, when she gave her press conference on the steps of Downing Street last Friday, looked as though someone had kidnapped her children and she was reciting from a script the kidnapper had handed her. And now Suella has gone too. It seems every genuinely conservative, pro-Brexit member of the Government is being picked off, one by one. Suella might have actually done something about the boats crossing the channel. She’d already spoken up about the police acting like the paramilitary wing of the Guardian and she is a steadfast Brexiteer who did some work on dismantling the Northern Irish Protocol as Attorney General. Was she really forced out because of what looked like a very minor security breach? Or have her children been kidnapped, too?

    I know, I know. It’s almost certainly just one cock-up after another. The bond and currency markets reacted as they did because U.K. PLC is teetering on the verge of bankruptcy after paying people half a trillion pounds to stay at home and not work for 18 months and a Chancellor that pledged to spend up to £200 billion helping people pay their energy bills while cutting taxes by £45 billion and not proposing any cuts in public expenditure was a step too far. Hunt was probably Truss’s second – or third or fourth – choice as Kwasi’s replacement, the only ‘Big Beast’ willing to take the job because he doesn’t think he has much of a chance of replacing Liz. Or calculated his chances of replacing her were better if he accepted the job than rejected it. And maybe Suella really did have to go after using her personal email to send an official document to a parliamentary colleague. Or maybe she didn’t put up much of a fight when the men in grey suits came for her because she thinks she has a shot at replacing Liz and has a better chance outside Government than in. Her resignation letter certainly suggested she hasn’t abandoned her own leadership ambitions (although it may just have been prompted by bitterness if the PM was the architect of her demise).

    So I daresay it’s just another chaotic shitstorm with no hidden hand guiding events. But it’s getting increasingly hard to persuade the conspiracy theorists they’re wrong. If Jacob Rees-Mogg goes in the next 24 hours (replaced by Matt Hancock) I think I may have to apologise to James Delingpole on the next episode of London Calling.

    https://dailysceptic.org/2022/10/19/are-we-witnessing-a-globalist-coup/

    1. I’m with you, I’ve spent years debunking conspiracy theorists about government, they are just too easy to debunk, but I am really struggling not to see this removal of Truss as a conspiracy.

      1) Firstly, the leadership election Tory MP’s wanted – Now they pretend they weren’t even listening to what she was saying for two solid months.

      2) Why is the BoE raising rates aggressively when the economy is covered in recessionary forces? Taking money OUT of people’s pockets when there is a cost of living crisis?

      3) Who appointed Hunt? I cannot believe that was Truss’s choice no more than Shapps was as home sec, and the engineered push out of Braverman

      4) When gilt yields are going up, which means borrowing is more expensive WHY was the BoE SELLING bonds driving up supply, creating falling prices and higher yields?

      I could go on and on, but I genuinely think this is a deep state anti Brexit conspiracy now.

    1. At first glance I perceived that little creature as a Buddhist monk on giant turtles.

      Off to Specsavers, or even to an opthalmic optician.

  57. If you read nothing else today, read this from the Guardian which lays out the thinking behind Labour, the trap they have set themselves, and where their created aspiration in those voting Labour are going to be dashed very quickly by the debt markets

    Trussonomics is dead, but not before laying a trap for Labour

    The defeat of free market ideology will be worthless if it results in a fear of public spending and an unquestioning faith in the markets

    How should Labour and progressives react to the astonishingly rapid collapse of Liz Truss’s economic agenda? The temptation will be to rejoice. Rejoice at the crushing rejection of trickle-down neoliberalism, the humiliation of the Conservative party and the growing likelihood of a Labour majority.

    But these will be pyrrhic victories if “Trussgate” leads to a re-embracing of the fiscal conservatism that has dominated British politics for most of the last quarter-century, together with an unquestioning faith that markets know best. The new chancellor, Jeremy Hunt, has committed to public spending cuts across government departments, alongside reversing Truss’s tax cuts. In other words, it’s back to austerity. Hunt has even appointed Rupert Harrison to his new council of economic advisers – the architect of George Osborne’s austerity strategy in the early 2010s and currently adviser to American investment management firm Blackrock.

    Unfortunately, the conclusion most will take from the past weeks is a simple one: the government cannot borrow its way out of economic crises. Already the danger signs are there, with Labour determined to reclaim the mantle of being the party of “sound money” (ie getting the deficit down) and FT journalists proclaiming the victory of “orthodox economics”.

    Once the markets are calmed, Hunt will seek to reposition the Conservatives as the party of fiscal discipline by reducing spending and daring Labour to say it would do otherwise. The punishment meted out by financial markets to Truss’s borrowing plans will be held up as the ultimate example of the limits of the state’s fiscal power in the face of market forces: Britain’s “Greece moment”.

    But Labour and the left must avoid falling into this trap. Instead, it must learn the right lessons from the crisis and carefully shape the narrative that follows it.

    The first lesson: this isn’t Britain’s “Greece moment” because we are not facing a Greek-style sovereign-debt crisis. Indeed, a sovereign currency-issuing nation cannot default on its debt denominated in its own currency. Rather, it is facing an inflation-expectations crisis, in which investors lost confidence in the government’s ability to bring down prices. High inflation reduces the real value of government debt and will lead to higher interest rates that will push down their price. This is bad news for the investors who hold such debt, hence the sell-off of bonds.

    (NOTE: The half wit doesn’t bother to point out that the falling price of government debt means higher debt yields, and therefore higher borrowing costs for Labour’s largess)

    The related lesson is that the type of fiscal policy intervention matters more than the size of it. Yes, its true that the mini-budget did involve an enormous expansion in government borrowing (around £160bn when you include the energy cap). But it was the £45bn of tax cuts on top of already rising inflation that the market didn’t like. Even bond traders understand that making rich people richer is likely to stoke inflation and won’t on its own increase growth.

    (Note: there are so few “rich” that any pay rises or tax breaks have almost no effect on inflation because there are so few of them, despite an increase in the “rich” over the last 12 years, inflation was often struggling to get to 2% – its massive pay rises for the masses that creates inflation)

    Labour must thus not shy away from making the argument for major public investment that ultimately can help reduce inflationary shocks, in particular from energy prices. The obvious short-term target for such investment should be a national home retrofitting scheme that would reduce energy bills, create skilled jobs and support the transition to a greener economy. In the medium term, the state needs to provide a direction for growth with an overarching industrial policy framework – Labour’s Great British Energy proposal is a good start – so firms have the confidence to invest. Some of these investments can be supported by tax rises but borrowing on a large scale will still be needed.

    (Note : The government’s own climate change committee, two years ago costed retro fitting home insulation at 676bn and that’s before inflation and the cost of fitting air source heat pumps which takes the bill to about 1200bn or £43,000 PER HOUSEHOLD – where on earth is that money coming from??

    In addition, if as Labour claims with some merit, that gren energy is 9 times cheaper than fossil fuels, then there should be no incentive to waste huge sums on insulation if energy is going to be one ninth of the current price or about 50% of the PRE gas price rise – the pay back time would literally be centuries)

    A second lesson is that inflation needs to be tackled by the Treasury and not just left to monetary policy. Dealing with it inevitably requires some groups in society losing out: it is a distributional problem. By cutting taxes, the Treasury was handing over responsibility entirely to the Bank of England, which has just one blunt tool in its armoury: raising rates. This generally hurts those with the most debt and the lowest incomes the hardest.

    A fairer and more economically credible approach is to remove demand in the economy from those who can most afford it: the rich. Labour needs to reimagine tax policy not only as a means to ensure social justice, but also to control prices and steer the economy in a more productive and less inflationary direction – most obviously, by taxing unearned wealth, including from property, and environmentally damaging activity. This can help provide the headroom for continuing to spend on public services.

    (Note : The comedy of this, as the recent budget showed, a 5% cut on the top 1% was worth 2bn, chicken feed, a 15% rise from 45% to 60% would at best raise 6bn, nowhere near enough to fund anything and that’s before people leave to avoid it as happened with the 50% tax rate brought in by Brown which seen the tax take REDUCE – You simply cannot tax the rich to pay for Labour, and the markets know that. And as we know now it wasn’t the tax cuts that spooked the markets it was the 160bn energy cap)

    A third lesson is: ensure better coordination between fiscal and monetary policy. The day before the mini-budget, the Bank committed to actively selling off government debt by shrinking its QE gilt portfolio by £80bn over the next year, including, in contrast to other central banks, outright sales of bonds before they matured. Markets were suddenly faced with both a central bank and a government that were selling huge quantities of government debt. This suggests a serious lack of communication between the UK’s two great macroeconomic policy institutions. The Bank was forced to U-turn and recommenced buying gilts to prevent a financial meltdown in the pensions sector.

    (Note: Now guess what happens when the government wants to borrow, and the BoE is selling off huge quantities of debt it holds? It floods the market, causes prices to fall and yields to rise, so the BoE was ACTIVELY SABOTAGING Truss’s budget. The cause was not so much the budget but the actions of the BoE – the question is why? This looks like a very engineered coup)

    The pension crisis brings us to a final lesson: the macrofinancial framework the UK operates within needs some serious examination. Government debt is no longer simply a useful long-term safe asset for institutional investors. The rise of market-based finance whereby capital market players use government bonds as collateral to hedge their market positions has clearly increased financial market fragility and volatility. We need less complexity in our financial system, not more, as the global financial crisis made clear. A progressive government should seek to simplify the financial system and de-financialise government debt instruments; it could start by reintroducing defined benefit pension schemes.

    (WOW! just Frekin WOW! Government debt is no longer simply a useful long-term safe asset for institutional investors – in other words government debt is trash, that means falling prices of debt and sky high yields – so that means future bond sales at sky high rates! So if that is true, Labour won’t be able to borrow anything, the price of the debt will be too high, that means austerity Greece style would be the only option or endless money printing and sky high inflation – these people call themselves economists!)

    The next 18 months – assuming the Conservatives survive that long – will be painful. It will be tempting for Labour to double down on the cause of this being the “fiscal irresponsibility” of the Tories and demonstrate its sound-money credentials by refraining from major spending commitments. Instead, it needs to redefine fiscal responsibility not as about keeping the deficit down but as investing strategically – but on a large scale – in the nation’s productive capacity and resilience, in order to support sustainable growth and a green transition.

    (Note : It needs to define fiscal responsibility! I’d laugh my socks off if this wasn’t so serious. As I’ve said repeatedly, it not governments that determine what is sensible spending but the people who lend us money – the bond markets, and as every bond investor knows, governments are staggeringly bad at “investing” – its far better left to people who understand business, Productivity lies in the business sector, it people who run businesses who know how to run them and if they can’t make it more productive there’s no chance that government will)

    Josh Ryan-Collins is associate professor of economics and finance at the UCL Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose.

    This is what you have coming guys, even the Tories right now are better than this!!

  58. What a load of HOT AIR! Sadiq Khan and his team have racked up 361,146 miles jetting to far-flung cities like Buenos Aires, LA and Copenhagen over the last six years… while lecturing the world about how going GREEN

    Mr Khan and his team have flown to cities across the globe while in office
    He is a clean air campaigner and lectures others on how to be more green

    City Hall defended the trips and said the team were just doing their jobs

    The 360,000 total is the same as jetting around the circumference of the world 14 times, or a return trip to the moon 18 times.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11335373/Sadiq-Khan-team-racked-361-146-miles-jetting-far-flung-cities.html

  59. If Ms Truss decides to call it a day will Deputy Prime Minister Therese Coffey be asked to step up to the plate?

    What do you mean she already has?

  60. The Prime Minister, Deputy Prime Minster and Graham Brady are meeting in Downing St .
    I suppose until Sunak takes over as the Parliamentary party one .
    This is a coup.

    2. And what do you think Sunak’s chances are with the Johnson supporters and Tuss supporters on the back benches, and a budget of endless cost cutting and tax rises in a cost of living crisis?

      I’d give him days as well

        1. Looking that way, I can see a Tory party split coming, a marriage with Farage, Reform, UKIP, Heritage, SDP and Laurence fox coming in a matter of weeks.

  61. A Downing Street source has said the PM called the meeting with Sir Graham Brady because she “wants to keep in touch with the mood of the party”.

    Black Moods Matter….

    1. So far we have three lovely grandchildren, seeing that makes me very frightened indeed about their future.

      1. Many parents esp in the US are pulling their children out of school to home educate. Would it be possible for their parents to organise something with other parents?

    1. Not long ago it was St Georges day parades that were stopped.
      But not the AHs that block the roads and spray paint on shop windows.

  65. My old man insists on watching beeboid drivel they call Politics today, and I have to leave the room. Today they wheeled out an unintelligible Chinese economics ‘expert’ to tell us all that ‘trickle down’ economics has never worked, not even when Margaret Thatcher tried it! He was aided and abetted by the truly ghastly Tobias Elwood who blamed everything on…wait for it…Brexit!
    It’s amazing in this, the beeb centenary week, they couldn’t find a balanced panel??

  66. News breaking that Ruth Edwards (Tory MP) went upto Wendy Morton Last night and she was cut off mid sentence saying “I don’t have to effin talk to you, I’ve resigned”

    So it looks like she did indeed resign and then an hour later un-resign.

  68. The Prime Minister will make a statement to the nation outside Downing St at 1.30 pm .

    Oh well .

    2. Let us hope that if she is going to resign she will tell the whole truth about who was behind her political assassination.

      If she has to fall on her sword then Hunt, Gove and the others must go down too and never be seen or heard of again.

      Good luck to you Ms Truss – do your best to destroy those who have destroyed you.

    1. Certainly outdoing George Canning and his 119 days in office.

      Even Kim Campbell managed to hang on as Canadian PM for four months before taking the conservatives from majority to loosing party status in a general election.

    1. What’s needed is a dictatorship.

      One where annoying, anti democratic MPs are taken out and shot. Where Left wing blob are burned with a flame thrower, where massive state cuts come first and the BBC is offered one interview where it is repeatedly reminded it is a corrupt, toxic nonsense that lies continually.

      1. What is needed is a strong person of character, a traditional conservative, someone who will retain traditions and policies proven to have worked in the past and determined to look after our national interests. Someone prepared to swerve past the corrupt dolt Biden and Obama and stand up for our national interest.

        Truss by comparison was not a leader, too easily capitulated to bullies like Andrew Bailey at the BoE and Remainer scum like Hunt and Gove.

  71. Truss gone – Several Moet Chandon wagons have been seen offloading outside BBC Centre. The Dom Perignon waggons are having to wait their turn.

  72. Reform doing well?
    I was about to put this up and Truss has resigned. Even better, perhaps?

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    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/afefdafb0e42d93a2b16084bb77c2a059c00a6bde4ad9e94dc67210b56ea6411.png
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  74. I notice that Jeremy Rhyming Slang has said he will not stand in the forthcoming leadership contest.

    He knows he will be bottom of the pile – again.

    1. Gove probably told him he would trash him again. Hunt has his uses, but it seems that Prime Minister is not going to be one of them.

  75. Oh good god things can’t get any worse can they??
    Oh Wait…..
    Calls for a “Unity Government” to steer us through the crisis lead by Satan himself
    Tony Blair
    Mystic Rik,you heard it here first……..

  76. Better put the number plates with the EU stars back on the car – I swapped them back in 2020.

        2. So did my motorhome; I told the dealer that I wouldn’t buy it if it didn’t have new, clean, independent number plates. There’s no EU logo on any of my vehicles and it will stay that way.

      2. Boris Johnson would need to apologise very sincerely and embark immediately on getting a proper Brexit done and be able to convince us that he means it this time.

        As I said at the time of the 2019 general election Boris Johnson was far too weak when he did not purge his party of remainers – and it is no surprise that it is the very unpurged remainers who are quite prepared to destroy the Conservative Party as well as Brexit.

          1. The King’s support for WEF is astonishing and alarmingand Prince William is certainly a meddler in waiting.

            Which leaves us with Prince Harry who is only interested in himself which gives hime one great advantage over his father and his brother :

            HE HAS ABSOLUTELY NO INTEREST IN POLITICS WHATSOEVER>

    2. No, Boris sister has said Boris was shocked by the treachery and herd mentality and he shan’t be back .

      1. I guarantee you that one thing Boris was NOT is shocked by Conservative MPs! He is a professional, he cut his teeth in the Oxford Union – he is one of them!

        1. Why he has been on so many holidays since ousted. When the bodies are removed and the blood mopped away he will be back.

          1. Payback for doing his masters bidding. Just like the rest of the Tory scum. ©The Ginger Growler.

  81. If we need a great leader to make our country great again, then I’m just making an observation here, but Trump has a couple of years with nothing much in his diary.

    1. Supposedly most of Asia’s population is descended from Genghis Khan. Let’s find one of those who has the old ancestor’s qualities, since that’s what needs to be visited upon the globalist parasite class right now.

  83. So it’s a three horse race between the sinister Fishy Rishi and the intellectual giant that is Petty Officer Moron. The latter will make Untrussworthy seem a genius.

        1. Schwab is also the first and the second.

          I bet they will try to sell Moron as a “compromise” candidate.

    2. I find it odd to see HRH Prince Charles re-branded as a ‘king’, but I suppose the illusion will keep an old man happy and occupied for his twilight years.
      As for the Jolly Green Card chap, if he wants to call a General Election my vote is floating.

  84. All this talk about Reform and other groups. Much as we might wish them to, little parties get NOWHERE in our system. They simply make life easier for the two main parties.

    1. Who knows? One day a new party could defy your pessimism and break the mould.

      You should adopt the optimism of the chap in this doggerel :

      I love the girls who say they do and those who say they don’t;
      I hate the girls who say they will but then you find they won’t.
      But of all the girls I ever meet please give me every night
      The girl who says she never will who looks as if she might!

    2. Who knows? One day a new party could defy your pessimism and break the mould.

      You should adopt the optimism of the chap in this doggerel :

      I love the girls who say they do and those who say they don’t;
      I hate the girls who say they will but then you find they won’t.
      But of all the girls I ever meet please give me every night
      The girl who says she never will who looks as if she might!

  85. 366343+ up ticks,

    Just a though but would it be worth swallowing twisted pride and making
    Batten / Braine an offer they can’t refuse, then have Tommy Robinson dealing with immigration / incarceration.

    The peoples know surely you can’t have patriotic integrity, common sense and be a lab/lib/con member / supporter they have had enough proof of that these last near four decades.

    Those are the type of chaps badly needed
    but the electorate are fighting their own little keep in / keep out war and it’s going to cost the decent peoples their homeland.

        1. Just before all the covid stuff started back in 2020, probably 2 weeks before the first lockdown, I had a dream about King Herod, but he was going after all the babies. I have never dreamed about him before, or indeed anything biblical. The sinister atmosphere of the dream persisted for hours afterwards.

          2. I am not in the habit of having prophetic dreams, I have never done so before. Perhaps I had picked up on the coronavirus, although very early days, not adding up, there was something very odd about it. The fact that it was called a coronavirus; the WHO downgrading cv as being no longer a threat to public health three or four days before Johnson’s speech to the nation… in fact his speech was deliberately to make us fearful …. I wondered why, why wasn’t he calming us down … All these things did not chime with what I felt to be logical.

          4. Her breathing rate has improved, Anne, it’s almost back to normal, from being twice as fast and more than it should be, but she is still exhaling more strongly than is normal but less violently than at the weekend. She is sleepy today – I have just taken her out for a tiddle but she trotted straight back inside without performing and back on to the sofa. However the weather hasn’t been conducive to much more than lethargy today. She is on a diuretic and we’ve not had any accidents so far. One day at a time.

  87. The parliamentary party will choose Sunak so I’ve no idea why the faux pretence of a choice, there was never a choice.

    I see the press are still stirring their nasty little pots saying they’ll think Boris will put himself forward, no that’s not going to happen. Cretins ,

    1. The PP will come up with one “candidate” to “unify” the party. But Sunak was way down in the first contest wasn’t he? Whoever they anoint is a dead duck I reckon. And the voting party members will have been shown again that their views don’t count. Like the rest of the public really.

      1. I have decided that I will vote one of two ways.
        1. If there’s a candidate of whom I approve, I will vote for him or her.
        2. If the candidates are an obvious stitch-up, then I will scrawl “What’s the Point” across the ballot paper/email.

          1. It would seem – early days yet – that the vote would be via the interwebby.
            We will see.
            I’m just sitting back and watching. I’m past getting het up over the whole farrago.

    2. Doesn’t pay enough.
      Boris can earn more from writing and after dinner talks to support various wives, girlfriends and assorted offspring

      1. Why doesn’t he have a harem?

        I was common practice in the middle Eastern lands of his forefathers to have several women on tap.

  88. We no longer live in a democracy any more when people behind closed doors

    decide who will run the country. and people like Hunt and others just like him emerge with top jobs. Its more like a Junta.

  89. The PP will be having a meeting later today to chose a ‘ unity ‘ candidate..
    If that is the case how on earth can it be Sunak? He’s NOT a unity candidate –
    unless ‘ Sunak is the prime minister whether you like it or not, we have chosen him, he is the leader ‘ how very socialist .

      1. So why can’t they just be straight about that and say it’s Sunak ( for whetever reason they can think up.. such as he came second.. or whatever ). Why a deceitful drama for another week pretending there is a choice when their isn’t.

  90. What a shame that Mr Hunt’s parents did not name him Carol because, when we spoonerised his name, Carol Hunt, we a could add a d and call him Harold.

  91. Ms Truss, Prime Ministerial statements:

    Wednesday: “…I am not a quitter!”
    Thursday: “I quit.”

    1. I think Blair’s time in office already did that…

      The problem with women MPs is that there is a certain type of silly cow who believes all the feminist hype and thinks that the glass ceiling is the only thing stopping her from being Empress of the Universe. She is utterly talentless, always goes for the stupidest policies, and is found in all the major parties. Every single woman in the Green party is this type. After a while, you can look at a photo and spot the woman politician by the silly, entitled face.

      Honourable exceptions to this rule are Suella Braverman, Kate Hoey, Sahra Wagenknecht in Germany, Kemi Badenoch and of course the Lady herself.

    3. Is now time for the Conservative Party to break new ground and select a trans person as the new leader?

    4. Women politicians are giving women a bad name

      But male politicians are giving men a bad name too

      1. I can’t view it either through boxnet – I’ll email it to you maybe you can put it up here – I know not how.

          1. Well actually it was a problem! Definitely best to download it!
            It’s on you tube as the Muppets Liz Truss! Very apt!

          2. Well actually it was a problem! Definitely best to download it!
            It’s on you tube as the Muppets Liz Truss! Very apt!

          3. Well actually it was a problem! Definitely best to download it!
            It’s on you tube as the Muppets Liz Truss! Very apt!

      1. I stored it on Boxnet but it seems you can’t view it from there. How else can I put it on here (it’s a funny video)

  94. New PM will be chosen next week will it be the return of Johnson. Who will the Junta choose.

    2. Most of the candidates are awful as usual. James Delingpole tweeted a picture of Mordaunt next to Bill Gates; her cold stare makes Gates look like Father Christmas.

    1. I thought Truss stayed at least until next Friday. Call a GE Liz.

      Who is this ‘Caretaker’?

  96. Boris heading back from Caribbean this evening, make of that what you will as three Tory MP’s have declared they want him back, and no, two of them are not Dorries or JRM (yet)

  97. 366343+ up ticks,

    Many will NOT take heed Gerard it’s an odious addiction things with a tory tag that is, even though it’s ersatz and that sure as hell describes farage.

    Gerard Batten
    @gjb2021
    ·
    1h
    I’m told Farage has been on GB News saying how the Tory Party needs to be replaced.

    Remember how he stood down his Brexit Party candidates who stood in Conservative constituencies in Dec 2019. He might have hoped to get a few MPs & hold power in a hung parliament.

    No doubt he’ll be telling you how to donate to his new party if he sets it up. Personally I just think its about getting his viewing figures up.

    And his purse filled up, (ogga 1)

    https://gettr.com/post/p1uxp71c399

    1. Good afternoon ogga

      We do not entirely agree about Nigel Farage but as you know I blame the failure of Brexit on the fact that there are too many remainer Conservative MPs in Parliament and Farage was extremely cowardly and foolish not to have stood firm and opposed all sitting Conservative MPs n the 2019 general election. Add to this that Nigel Farage failed to get any quid pro quo from Johnson and the consequence is that he was able to bodge Brexit entirely.

      With Carrie still calling the shots and without Dominc Cummungs keeping him up to the mark there is absolutely no point at all in Boris Johnson returning.

      1. 366343 + up ticks,

        Afternoon R,
        farage top flight self confessed treachery merchant ( the LBC vid 2019) johnson is an important part of what is going down, has been treacherous from way back, a continuation after treacherous treasa.
        For gullible fools he is a face in place, he makes them laugh.

    1. What fun we have!. So, who supplied the Ukes with a nuclear weapon? Find it and disarm it. Let’s stop their underhand (as usual) games.

    1. Cricket powder has already been spotted as an ingredient in savoury snacks in the US. Time to read the ingredient list particularly carefully…

  100. Rumours that 1922 will set the threshold at 100, 8 MP’s now publicly declared for Boris, 5 for Sunak…….

  101. Lane Keeping Assist (KLA)
    My new EV has KLA and it is set as default when starting to drive the car.
    I had a look at the Kona EV today to see what it had been doing parked whilst we were away during a four day break:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/600b7247be474960ce5983aabb678bf3bf5031cb22c7b4fb4d884b4513e822cf.jpg

    As you can see from my last image of the instrument cluster the vehicle has travelled two miles whilst stationary and has therefore used about half a kWh whilst we were away. I have selected a lane displey option in the instrument cluster to monitor KLA images.

    The only way of stopping the Kona from taking steering control of the EV whilst travelling over 40 mph is to configure the options from in the Lane Safety settings in the Driver Assistance in the home screen.

    Icon sequence: Settings>Vehicle>Lane Safety produces the default KLA driving mode on startup:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ead001c934414dca2f3e78a9f6d019839361899c6d887b644ea56901e1f7e71c.jpg

        1. Yes, they decided not to after a long torque together. Anyway, she’s been seen with a Dodge Charger in a compromising position.

      2. Both the Nero electric and the Tesla have sensors that are capable of automonous navigation so I wouldn’t put it past them to think of generating some offspring.

    1. That Libya picture – those apartments are i the process of being built, they are not wrecked.

      1. Accepted. But you get the idea, Three US Presidents and one UK in particular PM responsible for the deaths of more than 23 million non-combatants. That includes children.

    1. “Aileen Getty has given more than £800,000 ($1million) of her own money to fund climate change action”

      That’s currently £884,000.

          1. I’m sure the recipients of such largesse would be happy to paint her mother’s house for free.

  105. Albanian woman arrested in National Crime Agency organised immigration crime investigation
    Organised immigration crime
    An Albanian woman believed to be responsible for helping transport migrants to the UK in small boats has been arrested in a National Crime Agency investigation.

    https://nationalcrimeagency.gov.uk/news/albanian-woman-arrested-in-national-crime-agency-organised-immigration-crime-investigation

    NCA arrest in OxfordshireThe suspect, aged 31, was arrested this morning (Weds 19 Oct) at an address in Banbury, Oxfordshire.

    She was arrested on suspicion of facilitating illegal immigration and has been taken into custody for questioning.

    Jacque Beer, NCA Regional Head of Investigations, said: “This is a proactive investigation in response to intelligence that Albanian organised crime groups were acting as brokers, seeking to facilitate the illegal migration of Albanian nationals using established transportation networks.

    “People smugglers only care about money, they don’t care about migrants’ safety or security.

    “Channel crossings are utterly perilous which is why disrupting and dismantling criminal networks is a priority for the NCA and our partners.

    “This is an international problem, with people smugglers also targeting other countries.

    “These criminal groups are transnational, making international law enforcement collaboration essential. We are targeting offenders who impact the UK at each stage of the journey – from source, in transit, to the destination.”

    Today’s strike comes as part of sustained NCA action against organised people smuggling, and was attended by the National Crime Agency’s Director General, Graeme Biggar, and Home Secretary, Rt. Hon. Suella Braverman.

    NCA Director General, Graeme Biggar, said: “Tackling organised people smuggling is a priority for the NCA, and this threat is indicative of the challenge posed by serious and organised crime more widely. It exploits the vulnerable, it works across continents and borders, and it can be arranged and controlled using the online technology available to everyone.

    “The NCA is working tirelessly, in the UK and around the world, to protect the UK public from the criminals presenting the greatest risk.”

    H

    1. ” “People smugglers only care about money, they don’t care about migrants’ safety or security.

      “Channel crossings are utterly perilous which is why disrupting and dismantling criminal networks is a priority for the NCA and our partners.”

      To be honest I don’t care about migrants’ safety or security. They are coming here illegally. They are causing trouble and expense after they get here. They couldn’t give a hoot about the people who are paying to feed and house them.

      Stop them because they are unwanted criminals – not because it is unsafe for the poor little dears. But faux concern for their safety sounds better, doesn’t it?

      Edit: except when it means that we send out lifeboats and the Border Farce to save them. The RNLI and BF should be torpedoing their dinghies, not aiding them.

    2. “The NCA is working tirelessly, in the UK and around the world, to protect the UK public from the criminals presenting the greatest risk.”

      Not doing very well are they?

  108. 366343+ up ticks,

    May one ask after 45 days of morally illegal immigrants hitting the beaches of her reign how many in total was there, was it enough to change the fabric of a small town ,& did you hear the ratchet click.

    iz Truss Resigns, at Just 45 Days the Shortest-Lived UK Prime Minister Ever

  109. Why you may have been eating insects your whole life

    If you are horrified by the thought of eating insects, the bad news is that you have probably done so many, many times.

    This is because one of the most widely used red food colourings – carmine – is made from crushed up bugs.

    The insects used to make carmine are called cochineal, and are native to Latin America where they live on cacti.

    Now farmed mainly in Peru, millions of the tiny insects are harvested every year to produce the colouring.

    A staple of the global food industry, carmine is added to everything from yoghurts and ice creams, to fruit pies, soft drinks, cupcakes and donuts.

    It is also used extensively in the cosmetics industry and is found in many lipsticks.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43786055

    1. That has been known for a long time for anyone that reads a food label and understands what they are reading.

      What is worse is the Federal Food and Drug Administration allow a certain percentage of bug contamination in most processed food. Corned beef being the worst offender.

      I still like corned beef though. :@)

      They are just trying to soften people up with these reports.

      The Bugs are coming !

        2. We, in the hydrocarbon seismic exploration business, were known as Doodlebuggers. Oilfied trash was another appellation for us.

        1. Where the majority of corned beef is processed they get winged insects which often end up in the mix. The FDA decided a few legs and wings wouldn’t be a problem. And i don’t believe it has been.

        2. I would say “More, please” for you Maggie, but my name is Elsie not Phizzee. Lol. PS – Perhaps you could ask Oliver!

    2. Scraping the bottom of the barrel a bit! Doesn’t mean I want to replace chicken with crickets.

    3. But not with a crunchy texture. Or any other sort of texture if it used as a food colouring.

  110. Par Four today.

    Wordle 488 4/6
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    🟨⬜⬜🟨⬜
    🟨🟩🟨🟩⬜
    🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

    1. Me too.
      Wordle 488 4/6

      ⬜⬜🟨⬜🟨
      🟩🟩🟨⬜⬜
      🟩🟩⬜🟩⬜
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    3. Another fiver for me.
      Wordle 488 5/6

      ⬜🟨🟨🟨⬜
      ⬜🟨🟨🟩🟨
      ⬜🟩⬜🟩🟨
      🟩🟩⬜🟩⬜
      🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

  112. That’s me gone. What a bizarre day – so far. That Untrussworthy will be on “What’s My Line” one day – and no one will guess she was once Prime Minister!!

    Feeling rough again – which is a sod. I felt fine this morning – but mid-afternoon the lurgi reappeared. Isn’t life a disappointment, sometimes? The MR is fine, though.

    Have a spiffing evening.

    A demain.

    2. Just because you feel better doesn’t mean you are. Keep taking the Lemsip ! So that pushy nurse told me.

    3. What would she do for her piece of mime? How about miming being stabbed in the back.

      They could exhume Eamon Andrews and also Gilbert Harding, Barbara Kelly and Isabelle Barnett to play thee game.

    4. One of our friends has developed a cough and cold.
      She certainly wasn’t at her most perky when we saw her. Long spasms of coughing and sneezing. BC (before covid) we’d have just accepted that it was getting darker and danker.

    2. So you’re saying, Nagsman, (© Cathy Newman) that she is planning to stand as leader of the Conservatives?!? Lol.

  114. The cashier at the till checked to see if my 20 quid note was real.

    I said, “Do you think that if I could make counterfeit £20 notes that I would be shopping at ‘effin’ Poundland? !”

  116. A Prime Minister has fallen today. Soak up the history, guys. Days like today only come around once every couple of weeks.

  118. This is a Conservative Party political broadcast:

    Haha haha hahaha Haha haha hahaha Haha haha hahaha Haha haha hahaha Haha haha hahaha Haha haha hahaha !!!!!

    2. Interesting that someone has to down vote this. What kind of sick individual do you have to be to ignore what is going on?

  122. It hardly matters who becomes PM, nor should we concern ourselves. It will be a World Economic Forum appointee who will deliver the budgets, the taxes, the policies and laws and the drive to the society that the WEF requires to be put in place. Any pretensions to democracy have disappeared. It is control, naked and unabashed. It is clear that we cannot change anything. Some of those appearing in TV interviews seem embarrassed by the pantomime that will be played out over the next week, and in which they have to play meaningless ineffectual parts. (Yes, you, Sir Graham Brady.)
    Will anyone ask why it takes a week when it took a couple of months last time, or why it took a couple of months last time and now takes a week?
    Will anyone answer?

    2. Because they changed the rules of the game. Now nominees need 100 MP votes to be considered. There are currently 357 Tory MPs. So only 3 could qualify as a maximum. If only one person reaches the 100 threshold on Monday they will become the next leader, and thus the new prime minister, without the contest going to the next stage. That will be the case, I’m sure.

      1. A PM on the cheap? Only 100 MPs need to be bribed quickly. £100m each? Cheap, since you get Great Britain in return.

  124. I don’t believe Boris Johnson will put his name forward.

    They need 100 MPS

    At the moment.

    Boris Johnson 33
    Rishi Sunak 20
    Penny M. 9

    1. Why stop at Boris, look further back to May or Cameron playing Pheonix.

      How about John Major making a comeback?

      1. I don’t believe he would considering how he was knifed in the back, he can get more money with speeches. Mind you it’ll be one in the eye for the BBC .
        It’s sad that Kemi won’t get a chance but maybe she should keep her hands clean .

          1. I was staying with live(ish) ones but you are right, a dead Churchilll would be the best choice.

  127. I don’t understand why you are all wittering on about this. It’s over- this country, which once ruled 3/4 of the earth is finished. The government has self destructed and it doesn’t matter one bit what happens next. It’s over.

    2. This from a French lady on Twitter today, she has been in the UK for quite a few years “No matter how bad you think it is over here – and it IS bad – it’s nowhere near as bad as my own country. I am for the first time in my life thinking that maybe🇫🇷is lost. I actually feel more British than French atm. It’s the🇬🇧I want to fight for now.”

  128. Tom will have his little joke…

    This is the candidate who Labour fears the most

    The prospect of a Tory revival under a new leader, however unlikely, makes them nervous. I know who I would opt for

    TOM HARRIS • 20 October 2022 • 2:39pm

    Why do so many Conservative prime ministers end up resigning?

    Allow me to suggest a slightly counter-intuitive answer: because the party wins so many elections. I suspect there are plenty of Labour MPs who would give their right arm to be in the position of speculating as to which of their number will be next to get the call from the Palace. But Labour keeps losing elections so that’s not a problem for them.

    Of course, winning an election is one thing – governing competently is another matter altogether. And Liz Truss paid the inevitable price of her own inability to rise to that task. The common perception is that it was her own incompetence that proved her own downfall; we shall see, in the next few weeks and months, whether it is her party that is simply ungovernable and unleadable, which is what John Major concluded in the dying days of his own administration.

    However tiny the possibility is that there could yet emerge from the ranks of unhappy Tory MPs a political titan that can wrest the political advantage away from Labour and guide the party to a fifth general election victory, it is nevertheless one possible outcome of the leadership election that is now getting underway. And having enjoyed a pretty overwhelming poll lead for the last month, there are surely some in Labour who are honest enough to admit that the prospect of a Tory revival under a new leader, however unlikely, makes them nervous.

    If I were to place a bet (and I have – a tenner at 7/1) on the candidate most likely to steady the ship, I would opt for Ben Wallace, the Defence Secretary. Yes, he’s dull and boring, and PMQs involving him and Keir Starmer would be as exciting as televised knitting. But he wisely stood aside in the last leadership contest and has made fewer enemies than rival candidates as a result. And after the outrageous histrionics of the Boris years and the Truss weeks, who wouldn’t breathe a sigh of relief at that?

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/20/candidate-who-labour-fears/

    BTL:
    Graham Cushway
    They won’t allow a contest. It isn’t like they will let you choose. You are going to have Sunak foisted on you.

    NJ Ratnieks
    I suppose with such a collection of pygmies potentially to stand against him even Starmer appears a man of stature when off his knees.
    _________________________________________

    Plenty along the lines of ‘He’s expendable and saves potentially good candidates being sacrificed.’

    1. Typical DT article “This is the candidate who Labour fears the most.”

      But, as usual – no real names , no pack drill.

      Wallace! A complete farce.

  129. Tom will have his little joke…

    This is the candidate who Labour fears the most

    The prospect of a Tory revival under a new leader, however unlikely, makes them nervous. I know who I would opt for

    TOM HARRIS • 20 October 2022 • 2:39pm

    Why do so many Conservative prime ministers end up resigning?

    Allow me to suggest a slightly counter-intuitive answer: because the party wins so many elections. I suspect there are plenty of Labour MPs who would give their right arm to be in the position of speculating as to which of their number will be next to get the call from the Palace. But Labour keeps losing elections so that’s not a problem for them.

    Of course, winning an election is one thing – governing competently is another matter altogether. And Liz Truss paid the inevitable price of her own inability to rise to that task. The common perception is that it was her own incompetence that proved her own downfall; we shall see, in the next few weeks and months, whether it is her party that is simply ungovernable and unleadable, which is what John Major concluded in the dying days of his own administration.

    However tiny the possibility is that there could yet emerge from the ranks of unhappy Tory MPs a political titan that can wrest the political advantage away from Labour and guide the party to a fifth general election victory, it is nevertheless one possible outcome of the leadership election that is now getting underway. And having enjoyed a pretty overwhelming poll lead for the last month, there are surely some in Labour who are honest enough to admit that the prospect of a Tory revival under a new leader, however unlikely, makes them nervous.

    If I were to place a bet (and I have – a tenner at 7/1) on the candidate most likely to steady the ship, I would opt for Ben Wallace, the Defence Secretary. Yes, he’s dull and boring, and PMQs involving him and Keir Starmer would be as exciting as televised knitting. But he wisely stood aside in the last leadership contest and has made fewer enemies than rival candidates as a result. And after the outrageous histrionics of the Boris years and the Truss weeks, who wouldn’t breathe a sigh of relief at that?

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/20/candidate-who-labour-fears/

    BTL:
    Graham Cushway
    They won’t allow a contest. It isn’t like they will let you choose. You are going to have Sunak foisted on you.

    NJ Ratnieks
    I suppose with such a collection of pygmies potentially to stand against him even Starmer appears a man of stature when off his knees.
    _________________________________________

    Plenty along the lines of ‘He’s expendable and saves potentially good candidates being sacrificed.’

  130. In the meantime the Freedom Convoy Enquiry is showing that all levels of Canadian government is as bad and open to backstabbing as your lot.

    The Ottawa Police are blaming the provincial police for lack of support, the ontario police and the rcmp are blaming the Ottawa police for having no plan.
    The provincial and national security agencies are saying that Ottawas complaints about lack of information is out and out bullshit and the police board is saying that the Ottawa Police were so disfunctional that they were acting like the UK conservatives.

    Not even a week of testimony completed and the incompetence is being exposed just as the lies are unravelling.

    1. Time for your electorate to come to it’s senses and kick Turdeau and others out. What’s the matter with your electorate – Same in NZ?

        2. At least your MPs act against the PMmof the day, our spineless mob just sit there and do nothing against that incompetent PM.

          We think that they are counting the days until they can get a full pension.

  131. Anti-Brexiteers have possibly destroyed the Tory Party

    A hostile cabal within have wreaked grievous damage on the Party, potentially causing it to split or disintegrate

    JOHN LONGWORTH • 20 October 2022 • 3:50pm

    Brexit was always going to be a journey rather than an event, and so it has proved to be. But who would have thought that it would see the end of four PMs along the way, after the country voted for Brexit by a majority of nearly two million.

    David Cameron was an accidental Brexit hero in that it was he who called the referendum and changed the course of British history, but he knew he could not lead the country in something he did not believe in.

    Theresa May and her anti-Brexit Chancellor, Philip Hammond, made it their business to try to undermine Brexit and to keep Britain as close to the EU as possible. They nearly succeeded and ironically it was the European elections which overturned the anti-Brexit coalition in Parliament and opened the way for the appointment of PM Johnson, a Brexiteer PM harried out of office for eating Brexit cake.

    Although Mr Johnson failed to actively crystallise the benefits of Brexit, he was, in fairness, distracted for a great deal of time with the Covid crisis. Perhaps he was pursued because he was just about to start.

    Now we have seen Liz Truss, who proposed a post-Brexit mandate, roundly attacked by the forces of the Blob. It is, in a revolution, profoundly difficult to push forward a new agenda when the levers of power remain in the hands of the previous establishment. No doubt the growth budget was badly communicated and mishandled, but it remains the correct policy for prosperity and enterprise in Britain. In fact, all but three of the proposals were supported by Mr Starmer.

    Far from the growth proposals spooking markets, the likelihood is that negative commentary from anti-Brexit institutions played a great part as did the open ended and huge energy support package, entirely a response to the error of Net Zero orthodoxy. After all, the support package put forward by Mr Sunak was unfunded, over £400 billion, and the unfunded energy package was at least £150bn, dwarfing the tax package of around £50bn which would have been self-funding.

    Whatever the ins and outs of the truly extraordinary events of recent weeks, the anti-Brexit cabal within the Conservative Party have wreaked grievous damage on the Party, quite possibly causing it to split or disintegrate. In doing so, the people of Britain have been caught in the crossfire and face austerity: public spending cuts, job cuts, energy poverty, high taxes, low growth and recession.

    Right now Britain is doing relatively well by comparison with the EU: the second lowest debt-GDP ratio in the G7, low unemployment, the avoidance of recession , and much of the EU with higher inflation. A good basis for a growth economy.

    The looming austerity is all unnecessary and a function of the refusal of the establishment to buy into Brexit and to make it a success.

    If the Conservatives continue to act as wreckers, the country will continue down the path of low growth and austerity, tax and spend. A new political paradigm may emerge based on PR, and they will no longer be the natural party of government.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/20/anti-brexiteers-have-possibly-destroyed-tory-party/

    BTL is full of ‘Brexit did this!’. In some ways it did, but not in the way that the Europhiles suggest. It was the three years of parliamentary trench warfare that were so damaging to the country and the economy.

    1. “opened the way for the appointment of PM Johnson, a Brexiteer PM harried out of office for eating Brexit cake.”

      I don’t believe he was ever a Brexiteer.

        1. That is how I feel LotL but in my own way I will still do my best to resist and not comply with their authoritarianism as I have done throughout all this rubbish since March 2020.

          2. She is improving, Sue, she is at that stage where she is hungry but doesn’t fancy her posh Lily’s Kitchen dog food at all, she wants to be tempted so she is eating our food cooked from scratch with rice and veg (no biscuits or cakey things, we have never given her that sort of human food, nor scraps from ready meals we have in for emergency purposes). She has slept most of the day, it has been that sort of day, though, lowering clouds with prolonged downpour. Her breathing rate has settled down to near normal. We are taking it one day at a time. Back to the vet on Monday for a check up.

    2. Time for a GE and the ousting of the damned Remainers. We’ve already voted, don’t try to reverse it, you’ll meet 17 .4 Million opposition.

  132. This is a nice story and very reassuring .

    Police officer who identified suspect from his chin nominated for award
    Pc Arron Lewars’ photographic memory has helped him arrest some of the UK’s highest-ranking gang members

    By
    Jack Hardy,
    CRIME CORRESPONDENT
    20 October 2022 • 4:38pm

    A police officer with a photographic memory managed to recognise one of London’s most wanted men in a crowd at Notting Hill Carnival – even though only his chin was visible.

    Pc Arron Lewars has one of the sharpest recalls for faces in the Metropolitan Police and uses his extraordinary ability to help catch criminals on the run.

    In the past year, he has made more than 80 positive identifications leading to the arrest of high-ranking gang members, as well as suspects in shootings and robberies.

    His specialist skills are said to have had a “remarkable” impact on the disruption of the capital’s “highest harm” gangs, by either diverting members away from a life of crime or removing them from the streets altogether.

    But for the 37-year-old, who is part of the Met’s violence suppression unit covering Ealing, Hounslow and Hillingdon, one case from this summer in particular stands out. continued.. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/20/recognise-chin-anywhere-police-officers-super-spotting-powers/

    3. Isn’t there a good backbencher who is untainted by a cabinet failure?

      It’s a pity the Queen is no longer with us, a bit of monarchy would do wonders.

  135. Useless day- washing machine to be replaced on Monday after two blokes trying to sort it. Still have a load of saturated towels from last attempt.
    Am fed up to the back teeth with every everything right now.
    What a sorry mess this place is in.

    1. Have a glass of wine. Or two. Be slightly nice and dirty-ish (or not quite so pristine and clean) until Monday. Then have some more wine. Whatever you do, don’t cripple yourself financially by trying to put them in the tumble drier (does the spin on your washing machine work? I guess not or you would have put them there already)

      Hang out towels and if it rains just let them stay hanging until it stops for long enough to dry them.

      xxx

      1. No tumbler, and I cannot manage the grassy slope to washing maypole. I hang stuff upstairs in our bedroom- there’s space.
        The washing machine is knackered and will be replaced on Monday.
        I have two doc appointments tomorrow in the late afternoon, thank god. Then we want to go and have some fun and brace ourselves for the invasion of the grandmonsters on Sunday.

        3. I use to live in a house share in Whetstone North London. I would take my washing up to the a local laundrette and go to the pub.
          Maybe grab a takeaway on the way home……🎵 those where the days my friend 🎶.
          Perhaps we try to hard as we age.

  136. Well that wasn’t a surprise.
    The car that ran into t’Lad is registered to someone with his address being the local Pikey camp site and the police do not know who was driving.

    At times like this a De Lisle Carbine would come in VERY useful.

    1. I hope your son is recovering, although the knee injury did not sound good.
      AFAIK, in Spain you can not re-register or change ownership of a vehicle until all the fixed penalties & parking tickets etc, have been paid. And the vehicle must be insured whoever happens to be the driver.
      In an equivalent situation, the Spanish owner/keeper of the car would have a problem.

      1. It’s the same in Oman.
        Changing ownership of a vehical necessitates a visit by both buyer and seller to the local police station.
        All speeding fines must be paid, MOT if needed, must be done, it must be insured and the question is asked “are you happy to sell” are you happy to buy” if all gets a tick, ownership gets transferred.
        It gets very complicated if your vehicle does not meet the requirements.

  141. What a day folks. Not something that we will forget very easily. The once medium esteem politicians had, is now rock bottom. Not just the resignation but the meaningless reactions. As if any of the know-alls could have done any better themselves. Horrible people.

      1. That’s what is so scary HL. They actually know sweet FA. Everything they come into contact with they eff it up and big time.

  142. Evening all, I have been invited to get a pneumococcal vaccine at the GP’s. Has anyone had it and had an adverse effect.
    The result of Covid vaccines has made me very suspicious and hesitant. Advice appreciated.

    1. I have no idea of your age; I am 68 and had the two AZ jabs and have been in quite some discomfort ever since.
      Two doc appointments tomorrow and we shall see.

    2. Pneumococcal vaccines have been around since the 80s and appear to offer good protection against some of the nastier throat and chest infections (bacterial, not viral) that can be very dangerous for both babies and the elderly.

    3. A friend in his mid seventies had a quadrivalent vaccine recently, in both arms, which makes me guess that he also received a covid booster. He was violently sick later on.
      But he is not in the best of health, so you have to offset the risk of dying from some foreign bug against a few days of discomfort courtesy of the NHS. Also, if there is a ‘flu epidemic this coming winter, you can be reasonably certain that the NHS won’t have enough resources available to save you.

    4. The pneumococcal vaccine for the season is a best guess by medics – based on the variants in the southern hemisphere. It’s like backing a horse in a small field.

      The vaccines are inert and of low risk – unless you have a rare allergy.

      I would go for it, vvof!

      PS: I am 81.
      Have not had ‘Flu’ since 2000 – but:

      I had persistent and painful coughing during Feb/ March 2020; I strongly suspect that was Covid 19.

    5. I succumbed to the propaganda in 2020 and had my first flu jab – having never bothered with it before. The nurse persuaded me to have the pneumonia jab as well.

      I had no reactions at all to either of them. In fact, after having many jabs in my life, I’ve had no adverse reactions to any of them. I did feel a bit woozy in the evening after having a typhoid jab in the morning, a couple of years ago – but that’s all.

    6. This from a health writer on Twitter: “Any jab for a respiratory infection makes you at risk for a more severe form of any other respiratory infection you come across. There are lots of different respiratory viruses during cold season.”

      A friend of mine had the pneumococcal vaccine and was taken very ill a few hours afterwards, she had to be rushed to A&E as an emergency three years ago. She did survive, but her family were exceedingly concerned about her. My mother had it and was fine, although quite a few years later she died from pneumonia secondary to a stroke. She was 92. I will never have another vaccine/immunisation as I no longer trust the blighters.

      1. We are very grateful that Françoise, our lovely ex-GP (who has now been struck off) told Caroline and me not to have the Covid jabs. She is fighting her case in court and we pray that she will have success.

    8. We had ours a couple of years ago and I checked it out first. It has been in use since 1977, I think, and is a once only proper vaccine I believe.

  143. Iain Dale in the DT:

    “I’ve never seen such division within the party. An ill-mannered and protracted leadership election over the summer produced a Prime Minister whose first act was to deliver market chaos and the prospect of a wipeout at the next election. The 1922 Committee and Conservative MPs have got to get a grip. That means uniting behind a new leader who will appeal not just to all groups within the parliamentary party, but also who will reach out to members and voters with a positive, optimistic message of renewal and hope.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/10/20/penny-mordaunt-can-unite-tory-party-take-fight-labour/

    There cannot be such a candidate because the party is still split on the EU. Unfortunately, Dale then goes on to suggest Penny Mordaunt as that leader.

    I must resist finishing my weekend beer ration before Friday comes…

    1. Time to stop being rational. Go for it, it’s the end of times. If they openly mock democracy, then it’s all over anyway.

      1. 366343+ up ticks,

        Evening M,

        Reality shows there is nothing to lose everything to gain.
        we are not witnessing a westminster coup but a United Kingdom coup.

  144. Evening, all. Have we got yet another new PM? They seem to be chopping and changing like new pairs of socks.

    1. 366343+ up ticks,

      Evening PM,
      I did mention the same in a recent post, there is an army in situ…..waiting.

        1. 366343+ up ticks,

          PM,
          Would not come as a surprise
          if archery─ long bow /cross bow, suddenly become popular.

  146. The good news for us today is that the bar rooted roses will be delivered soon. la France and Arch Duke Joseph. Hope the get on.

  147. Thanks for all your answers on the pneumococcal vaccine, I appreciate your thoughts, I will chew it over.

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