Thursday 6 April: The NHS should apply tried-and-tested methods to beat bed-blocking

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  1. Good morrow, Gentlefolks, today’s story

    Always Choose A Memorable Password!

    A lady helps her husband install a new computer. Once it is completed, she tells him to select a password, selecting a word that he’ll always remember.
    As the computer asks him to enter it, he looks at his wife and with a macho gesture and a wink in his eye, he selects a word:

    mypenis.

    As he hits “enter”, to validate the selection, his wife collapses with laughter and rolls on the floor in hysteria!!

    The computer had replied: TOO SHORT- ACCESS DENIED!

    Always remember this. You don’t stop laughing because you grow old.

      1. Morning all.

        And a special hello to you, Stormy. How have you been? Do hope you’re fighting fit whatever and wherever. We’ve missed you on here. Lovely to hear from you again. KBO.

  2. Right, I’m now off to bed in the hope of catching up on the Zeds I missed last night.

    Until later.

    Play nicely.

    1. The writer has a good point about the Europeans joining together, but unfortunately the power-crazy EU has scuppered that for several generations. The EU and its diktats are something to be fought against, not the unity that would bring genuine benefits to the continent.

      1. They were in too much of a hurry. Should have had a 50-100 years time perspective, not 5-10, thus allowing everyone to get used to the ever-closer union, rather than trying for a dash for glory. Changing a company culture is a long-term business*, so imagine changing the atitudes and cultures of a continent?
        * Unless you smash it completely and start from fresh with new people… er… Oh! Rubber boats… :-((

        1. It’s worse than that – they are just puppets for the same cabal that run the WEF, Trilateral commission, Bilderberg etc. Nobody wants a dictatorship run from Brussels.

  3. Joining the CPTTP is nothing like belonging to the EU. 6 April 2023.

    Unlike the European Union, the CPTPP does not have an accession fee nor a swingeing annual membership fee. It is intended to stick to being a mutually beneficial trade agreement between its members, another example of how it is not the same thing as the EU, nor does it have any aspiration to become like the EU.

    Interesting article this. It’s settled some of my concerns; actually total ignorance, about the CPTTP. Anything that is not the EU gets my vote!

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/joining-the-cpttp-is-nothing-like-belonging-to-the-eu/

  4. So Mr Sturgeon has been “released without charge”. It was all a storm in a MacTeacup, then. Or a stitch-up. Or something.

  5. 373086+ u,p ticks,

    Morning Each,

    Thursday 6 April: The NHS should apply tried-and-tested methods to beat bed-blocking

    Thursday 6 April: The NHS should apply tried-and-tested methods to beat bed-blocking, If there was one spark of honesty among the slithering political brigade they would ask WHY ?.

    The program, we the ( lab/lib/con) mass controlled / uncontrolled immigration / paedophile umbrella coalition politico’s & members are following seemingly now with HRH royal seal is RESET.

    That being to our (politico’s) way of thinking for the best of the multitude whether it is popular or not, YOU WILL have it.

  6. Good morning all.
    5½°C and overcast with a very light drizzle this morning.

  7. 373086+ up ticks,

    The lab party are PIE affiliated via the peoples eyes tight shut brigade as with tory (ino) & lib dems forming the coalition still currently bringing in daily top up paedophiles.

    Dt,

    Labour should hang their heads in shame over the grooming scandals
    ‘Cultural sensitivity’ always means sensitivity to one culture alone – and it sure as hell isn’t the culture of white working-class girls

      1. Was here, too, and apparenty again tomorrow. But today, Skjærtorsdag, not to be so.
        Skjære – to cut (up)
        Skjære – magpie
        Weird, eh? Anyhow, Happy Magpie Thursday, all Y’all 😀

  8. I suspect that the motive behind this increase is to get rid of enough of the allotment holders to enable the council claim there is little demand, then close them down for building houses on.

    Allotment inflation
    SIR – It is not only in Buckinghamshire that allotment rents have rocketed (Letters, April 5). Our local council has just increased the initial fee by more than 300 per cent, annual rents by 70 per cent and – most shamefully for a Labour-run authority – it has abolished concessionary rates for pensioners and those on low incomes.

    Many who have carefully tended their plots for years will have little choice but to hand them back, and so be deprived of the benefits to health and wellbeing that allotments provide.

    Marion Latimer
    St Helens, Lancashire

    1. Land is worth so much now, that councils, the Church of England and other big landowners have a huge motivation of greed for the amount of money they would get by selling them.

      1. Just think what pulling down all those churches would bring in as building plots….

        1. FFS, Bill, don’t even think it! They have enough stupid ideas as it is!

        2. Just think what converting the buildings into flats for migrants would bring…..

    2. They are doing it on purpose. Think of the housing you can put on ex-allotments. And they are usually in good locations too.

      You can’t have 10 million plus new people in 30 years and expect things to stay the same.

      1. All the allotments and gardens in the centre of my home town have been built on now.

        1. Bar-stewards the lit of them. People need an outdoors. Especially in the towns. We had an allotment when our children were small snd we had no garden. Invaluable. I was talking about the parsnip cake, courgettte cake and beetroot cake i used to make inly yesterday. Also courgette, bacon and brie risotto was a good use of courgettes!

      1. Morning, Alec. I have been diverted as the DT has published the full article on the SNP shambles.

  9. A pleasantly whimsical letter:-

    Three’s company
    SIR – Susan Grant’s letter (March 28), remembering George Henry Lee, once a Liverpool branch of John Lewis, reminded us of how we named our guinea pig litters. George, Henry and Lee followed the first batch – Freeman, Hardy and Willis. I don’t think we had to resort to Philip, Son and Nephew.

    John Evans
    Ormskirk, Lancashire

    1. When I was a child, there was a theatrical ticket agency called Keith Prowse…..

      Some friends named their Scotties “Keith” and “Prowse”

      The agency’s slogan was “You want the best seats – we have them”…..

      True story!

  10. Gender radicals have declared war on the English language. Julie Bindel, Daily Telegraph 06/04/23

    To me and many other women concerned with maintaining our sex-based rights, it’s a great relief that Kemi Badenoch, in her role as minister for women and equalities, asked the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) to advise on the potential clarification of the definition of “sex” under the Equality Act. This is necessary because, while sensible people understand the term to mean either male or female, some companies, charities and other organisations seem rather confused.

    In the context of single-sex changing rooms, or the inclusion of trans people in certain sporting categories, that confusion has undermined the rights of biological women. We have already seen controversies around biological men, identifying as trans women, competing on a par with biological women despite having a natural advantage. A clarification in law would help sporting organisations navigate such issues.

    Thankfully, under Baroness Falkner’s chairmanship, the EHRC has shown a willingness to listen to women’s concerns. Indeed, it has already come to the view that if “‘sex’ is defined as biological sex for the purposes of the Equality Act, this would bring greater legal clarity in eight areas”. These include pregnancy and maternity, freedom of association for women and men, and freedom of association for lesbians and gay men. Surely, in a liberal society, these are matters of critical importance.

    But how on earth did we ever reach a point where “sex” was conflated with “gender”? The emergence of radical gender ideology is the issue, and it has seen the rise of all sorts of confusing terms – such as “cis” or “gender assigned at birth” – which are designed to undermine biology. Women who have taken offence at such terms, on the basis that they destroy the notion of womanhood, have been shut down by radical activists.

    And now there will be an attempt to shut down the legal clarifications we desperately need. No sooner did the EHRC respond to Ms Badenoch than the trans charity Mermaids accused it, spuriously, of “seeking to strip trans people’s rights from the Equality Act 2010”. Others, including discrimination and employment lawyer Robin Moira White, went further. “There’s no getting away from it. Badenoch, Falkner and the whole ‘Sex Matters’ crew are just evil,” she said.

    They are exploiting fears that should not exist. The idea that trans people are losing their rights has no basis – all we are doing is redefining sex back to its intended meaning in law. That is the democratic thing to do. And if they wish to change it, they should have to argue it properly, taking into account a balance of rights on gender issues.

    It is important that we remember how things were before women lost their jobs, university positions and reputations for simply speaking the truth. Half a century of feminist campaigning brought about laws and policies that kept us safe from male violence. These include the provision of female-only hospital wards and domestic violence refuges.

    But as extreme gender ideology took hold of so many of our public institutions, and debate was shut down, we feared we might lose everything we had built. Ms Badenoch’s efforts mark a turning point. I have spent my adult life campaigning for the protection of women. If we lose this battle, we lose women’s rights. Feminists will never let that happen.

    Kemi Badenoch for p.m.

    1. Morning Grizz,
      Where’s the debate about what a man is, I ask myself. Has any one asked Keir Starmer that?

        1. Thanks ndovu. Just a bit of lack of motivation. I think I’ve pulled myself out of it.
          It’s good to be back among the nottles.

      1. How would he know? He isn’t one himself, no balls.
        Morning, Stormy. All good, I hope.

          1. No worries, no apologies needed – but we missed you. Glad you’re back.

      2. Transmen are less visible than transwomen, I think because it’s easier for them to pass unseen – they just have to grow a beard. Funnily enough, they also seem to be less aggressive than transwomen about demanding access – I cannot think why that would be!

        When you realise that, you realise how much of the trans political agenda is pure bullying by the physically strong against the physically weak.

        1. Not sure transman are especially strong. They’re pathetic men in dresses who once they’re stood down by a real man get louder and louder until the adult tells them to stop screaming. Comically they usually say something like ‘this is how women behave!’

    2. “Cis” is an offensive term that was coined by one group to describe another. I refuse to be referred to as “cis”. People should be able to self-define the term used to refer to themselves.

      I identify as “normal.”

      1. Running the risk of giving egg-sucking classes, trans- and cis- are two varieties of shapes of polymer molecules. Sometimes, having surprisingly different properties.

        1. As you suspect, I know that, thank you, and I also knew it before it was patronisingly mansplained to me by transwomen ad infinitem, along with BS like “gender is a social construct”

          I still find it offensive as applied to me!

          1. One is only Cis – as a person – when one’s interlocutor is one’s sibling, or one’s name is Cecily/Cecilia/Cissy.

        2. In that case, Paul, would you please be so kind as to explain the difference between a polymer and an allotrope; the concept of both whooshed right over my head in Materials’ Technology classes back in the late 1960s.

          I understand that they are different forms in which an element may exist, but I’m buggered if I can remember the difference between the two.

          1. Allotrope – same element, different crystal structure. Like austenitic and martensitic steel, for example.
            Polymer – made up from many repeat units (monomers) joined together into typically long chains.

          2. Thanks, Paul.

            May I take it, from that, that a diamond is an allotrope of carbon and not polymer?

          3. Perhaps off topic but I believe it was sosraboc who came up with another definition of a structure.

            Lammynation; the process of using several short planks to make a really thick one.

      1. Throughout my life I have often felt extremely sexy.

        At no point have I ever felt “gendery”.

      1. Three, actually – Masculine, Feminine and Neuter, since gender is a grammatical, not biological concept.

      2. WRONG! Male and Female are the SEXES. The Genders are Masculine, Feminine and Neuter.

  11. So, if we’re not to use oil and other fossil fuels, with net zero in about ten minutes time, how come a small production cut by the Saudis (Yaay, surely?) now means that the West will suffer significant inflation – oh, yes, and added benefit is Russia earns a whacking great bonus as they still sell their oil. So, the Russia sanctions worked well, too, didn’t they? Russia is better off and the EU flounders in the mud. Good one, guys. Hell, my cats could run policy better than those jerks.
    https://12ft.io/proxy?ref=&q=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/04/04/why-the-saudis-are-siding-with-putin-to-drive-up-oil-prices/

    1. Oh, yes, and Biden bad-mouthing the Saudis when he was running for election went well too, didn’t it?

  12. Good morning, all. In a word, wet!

    Here’s a chance for the ‘Go Woke, Go Broke, brigade to have an impact. Insulting womanhood in this manner should have repercussions for Nike as all self-respecting real women must abandon the brand. Insulting a huge percentage of your customer base with this woke nonsense isn’t a clever move.

    https://twitter.com/nbreavington/status/1643837924021006336

    1. This is the backlash against feminism. The feminists are so un-self-aware that they can’t see it. They laughed movements like F4J and MGTOW (who are rather nasty, but no worse than feminists) out as pathetic, inadequate men – now they are reaping the whirlwind.

      Trans politics are just a symptom of a deeply sick society, and putting them down to allow more space for the other special groups is not going to solve anything.

      1. It’s a symptom of a society that has less to worry about than poor people in poor countries who have to put their energies into survival.

    2. How is that bloke going to persuade the Warqueen with her 34H’s to buy that bra. For goodness sake. One wonders if these folk are just paedophiles promoting small boys in their under clothes.

  13. Kitchen sink blocked. Having tried plunging, boiling water and bicarb and vinegar, I’m now sitting here waiting for a plumber to turn up.

    1. Unscrew the U-bend underneath and unblock it – usually works. Requires large bucket to catch all the gunk.

    2. Bugger.
      The liquid/powder solutions need some flow to get to the blockage. Plunger might work, if you can cover the overflow holes with a hand, hen when flow re-established, bicarb or whatever.

      1. Bottle of full fat, high sugar coca cola. Or, I’d suggest more bicarb and vinegar – a lot more bicarbonate. If you can, empty the sink of any water, as that dilutes the vinegar and get a big tub rather than a little one and rinse, repeat. We get “dog hair” in our shower and sink trap all the time and unblocking that got so annoying I had a plumber put in an first trap that could be undone more easily.

        Odd that the hair is often blonde rather than black or white (as Ozzie is a bit Landseer).

    3. Often, there is a small unblock outlet on the U Bend.
      Just need a pair of pliers to unscrew it

    1. Urgh.
      Eff hole… put me off me breakfast, that did. And it’s toasted hot-cross buns, too!

    2. Men have got into women’s refuges under that pretence and those men set about raping the women there.

      Same for prisons. It’s not complicated: they are men, and should be treated as men and forbidden access to women’s places. If a 6’3 trans man wants to go try on some women’s trousers then good for him, but he’s doing it in the mens changing rooms. If that upsets him then maybe that’s a lesson he needs to learn about society and his place in it. The world does not revolve around the individual.

  14. ‘Racism’ is an idiotic word for an inexpungible — and vitally necessary — part of the human psyche.

    It is an intrinsic tenet of the human/animal condition, a fundamental and irreversible facet of nature, that compels, drives, people to — first and foremost — look after themselves, their family, their social grouping, their tribe, their race, their species and their territory. Humans, in common with all animal life, are ingrained with a powerful and irresistible urge to seek food, drink, shelter and sex in order to eat, drink, keep safe and procreate. This is programmed into an animal’s genetic material and it cannot be displaced by ill-thought-out, crassly idiotic, political dogma.

    It goes against the laws of nature to be forced to accept all other social groupings, tribes, races and species as though they are an essential part-and-parcel of one’s own extended family. Just as nature abhors a vacuum, it also despises any artificial means of attempting to rewrite its laws for political gain.

    How many middle-class, affluent Left-wingers — the so-called ‘champagne socialists’ — would give up all (or even part) of their comfortably complacent lifestyles to share a home, and station, with those from other cultures of lower intellect and education, who are just as unshakeably entrenched in the natural order of nature as outlined above? My view is that for all their brainless, baneful rhetoric, very few of this contumelious faction would even think of giving up their comfort levels to descend to the same desolate and primitive ranking of the intellectually-inferior dispossessed. These fools may incessantly talk-the-talk, but they are unwilling and incapable of walking-the-walk.

    Mankind, of all tribes and races, possesses a rudimentary intrinsic programming that considers all outsiders (i.e. anyone not forming an innate part of their own social, familial, hierarchy) as something to be watchful and apprehensive about.

    Much as man wishes to rewrite the laws of nature, this fanciful pipe-dream is unattainable; every feeble ministration of this over-confident, vainglorious, bumptious and irredeemably conceited organism to overcome the natural order of the world has — and will — come to abject failure.

    1. something to be watchful and apprehensive about.
      Whilst you cannot guarantee the family and tribe have the same values and overall outlook that you do, at least by knowling them you can anticipate their response, and they also have a vested (genetic) interest in the survival of the individual, family and tribe.
      Unknown strangers are, well, unknown, and likey do not have any vested interest in your tribe’s survival, in fact history shows quite the opposite, they want to move in and quickly take all the things your lot worked hard for. So, suspicion and even hostility are warranted in nature – just look at what happns when two tribes of monkeys / lions / ants meet up. Usually carnage, certainly a lot of shouting & growling. For man to believe he is something better than a mere animal is hubris of the first water, we are not. Just that we make Mercedes, and trash the planet.

      1. Certain types have known reputations, and are better to avoid if possible.
        Going back to the mid 60s. I use to go to a well attended blues club in West Hampstead.
        There was a particular character who would threatened all other people with violence if they so much as even glanced in his direction.
        His name was Winston.
        His favourite phrase was ‘Whatchoo lookat mate ? I lay you over “.
        Which of course ensured more attention than other people in the audience.

    2. There is a difference between protecting the tribe ‘the self’ and defending against ‘the other’. When one tribe numbers in many millions and feeds and clothes itself having the alien appear on the doorstep and start scoffing the tribe’s bread and meat is just insulting and is going to breed dissent.

      When one of the alien rocks up, presents his own cows, bread and says’ I’ve got these. Can I share them in exchange for a space in the cave?’ The tribe welcomes the stranger and he becomes one of them.

      When activists demand we accept endless criminal invaders who just take all they do is create tension – and they know that. It creates a self fulfilling prophecy – which is what the activist thrives on. Of course, all too usually the activist does the least work for the tribe, contributes nothing and in a better time would get the least meat and bread for not serving the whole. The modern equivalent these days they go to public school and live off trust funds, or work for the BBC.

    3. There is a reason why Spartie gravitates to other dogs to socialise.
      He views cats very differently.

      1. They are scarcely even bothering with the “workers of the world unite and create a utopia” phase before they move onto the jackboot phase this time.

      2. He wouldn’t have said it if he wasn’t 100% confident his own cash and investments were fully protected around the world.
        Which reminds me, it’s time to bed and isa another £20K to keep them away from our chancellor’s grubby little paws.

      3. He wouldn’t have said it if he wasn’t 100% confident his own cash and investments were fully protected around the world.
        Which reminds me, it’s time to bed and isa another £20K to keep them away from our chancellor’s grubby little paws.

    1. Not that long ago he was advocating re-investment in oil and gas extraction. You cannot, MUST NOT, trust these people.

    2. Start with all the properties of the CEOs of the banks, then Big Pharma, then oil companies then the charities then Gates, Clintons, Schwab etc. small properties like ours are inconsequential.

    3. Yep, let’s start with his property. But he doesn’t mean that – he means *yours*.

      And of course, his bank would get a huge kick back from the tax payer subsidy of the windmills, wouldn’t it?

      1. Perhaps he means Bill Gates’s land? Gates is after all the biggest land owner in the US.

  15. Ref the mantra “Trans women are women”, well if they were, they wouldn’t be called trans women, would they?!

        1. There is an extremely tiny subset who have an abnormal arrangement of XY or XXY chromosomes, as well as deviations caused by, for example, androgen insensitivity (where, essentially, an XY person cannot develop maleness).

          IMHO, so called trans people are mentally unbalanced people ruthlessly using this unfortunate subset to re-create themselves as ‘victims with rights’.

          Laws are needed to prevent abuse & exploitation, & moral-based laws need to be upheld.

    1. One hears so little about trans men. I wonder why? Why does “everyone” want to become a woman – what’s so special?

      1. See my post below. They blend in better, and they don’t bully loudly for access to male-only spaces because they know darn well what would happen if they did.

      2. They get to sit down more often. But for that, often have to queue. 😉😊
        I’ll get me handbag……..🤭

      3. There’s a “trans man” at work. Identifies as male but is self evidently female. She grew a beard at one time and it was truly hideous. Since covid I don’t think I’ve seen her in the office more than three times in as many years. Maybe run off to join the circus.

        1. I don’t understand why they do it. More, I don’t understand why it is so indulged.

          1. All part of the weaponry to confuse and fracture society, leading to its destruction. And from its ashes, the phoenix of international communism will rise and take flight, ‘they’ are hoping.

      4. I think it’s because of the attitude of men toward women. Most men, despite what Lefties say, admire and respect women. Some veritably fawn over them. You get doors held open for you, lifts held, things carried for you and generally women get a lot more attention from men. This is self explanatory. We want sex.

        As trans people have no self respect – for whatever reason, they’re trying to live a fantasy of what a woman is to get that respect. Where trans people come unstuck is that neither men nor women are stupid and can smell a fraud when they see it. Men and women have specific attributes that create their archetypes. They are the basis of respect. A ‘pack leader’ is easy to identify not because he’s bigger or stronger than the rest but because when he speaks, people listen. He’ll be challenged, but there is no threat. Watch a bunch of blokes getting a round in and see who they give the first glass to.

        As trans people are neither man nor woman, embodying the worst characteristics of both – the lack of feminine grace, appearance and ‘softness’ (it’s the wrong word but humour me) and the male stoicism and physicality there is no place for the trans in the social group.

        It’s no where near as simplistic as that but the principle – I think – is sound. They are ill and escaping from their flaws into a fantasy. It is the adult version of dress up. Psychotherapy would reveal a very unhappy person who, over time could unite their whole self and become a better individual for it, but they take the easy, these days ‘fashionable’ route out of the hard work of integrity and self relfection.

    1. The company that owns Bud Light owns a lot of breweries around the world. Boddingtons is one of theirs, iirc.

      1. Anheuser-Busch are not a brewery, they are a megakeggery. Their products are ersatz ‘beer’ made with fillers, such as rice, and all manner of chemical additions instead of just malted barley, water and yeast.

        They had the gall, a couple of decades back, to take Budweiser-Budvar (an ancient Czech brewery, making superlative beers) to court over their use of the name ‘Budweiser’. Budweiser-Budvar told the Yank upstarts where to go and where to stuff their pretend cat-piss ‘beer’. Thankfully Budweiser-Budvar won and they continue to brew a wonderful product.

    2. I do like the dog one, although i reminds me of the difficulty I had training Mongo not to lick the floor. Somehow he’d got it into his head that as his food was there, so was more food.

        1. My late cat, Thompson would sit on the drive outside the kitchen window. I had only to show him a kitchen knife and he was in the kitchen like greased lightening. Any tit-bits never reached the floor – either!

    3. The last photo reminds of the evening before we go on holiday.
      Dog in doggy hotel.
      Forgetful me sweeps cheese/bread/whatever foodie bits onto the kitchen floor; and then has to sweep it up herself (with a broom, not tongue!).

  16. G’morning all,

    Pleasant morning at McPhee Towers, 9℃, wind in the West but it’s going to be showers before midday.

    Just back from a 4-day break in Pembrokeshire where the weather can go from blue skies to horizontal rain and back again in 5 minutes. Love it. The season seems to be a little ahead there, daffodils dying back already and blackthorn in full bloom whereas it’s only just popping out here.

    As well as the sea there was a veritable sea of white faces enjoying the surfing, walking the coast path and watching the birds and seals. Not a muzzy in sight. Bliss. Don’t tell Mark Drakeford. Discovered a proper tea shop in Carmarthen on the way back too.

    And, oh, I forgot to say, isn’t it delicious about The Ginger Witch of the North and her camoflage husband! Schadenfreude is a most useful and wonderful word.

  17. Morning all 🙂😉
    Not the night forecast last evening. No prolonged dowpours. Hardly any rain at all.

    If we now need to provide established and official ID in order to vote, which is our choice and free to do so. Why doesn’t the NHS ask for the same ID, before lavishing treatment on people who have never paid a single penny towards its upkeep. That would probably help enormously in the effort to stop bed blocking.
    No payment in, no medical insurance, no treatment and certainly no bed.
    After all we all have to fork out plenty for medical insurance if WE travel abroad.
    Why are the now millions of people who have decided to come to the UK, allowed to get away with it ?

    1. Here, you have to give your National Insurance ID number to get treatment – of any kind. Or pay full fee. Easy. There’s always something to pay for Dr & outpatient, anyway, so every counter has a credit card machine.

      1. They tried that here Obs but our useless gutless government didn’t see it through.
        I doubt if the NHS would be in trouble if they had.
        People have even been travelling to the UK for years to turn up at A&E and being admitted. Then walk out after free treatment.

  18. Good morning all,

    Lovely morning here , Moh off to golf later , competition time , he played yesterday and Monday, and will be on playing on Sunday, so he should be on good form .

    The bathroom sink hot tap has the plugchain entwined around it , so had to sever the chain , blooming nuisance .

    SIR – Robert Sprague’s letter (April 4) regarding theatregoers’ annoying behaviour reminded me of the time I was taken to the opera as a child. I was eight years old and rather bored. However, I had a stick of rock, which I devoured with great gusto, creating a lot of crackling noise with the wrapper and crunching loudly. This continued until the lady in front of me asked me forcefully to be quiet. I have never forgotten it.

    As this was nearly 60 years ago, it is doubtful she is still alive, but I would like to thank her for making me more aware of how my behaviour will affect those around me.

    Oonagh Dalton-Brown
    Pershore, Worcestershire

    I Iexpect many of you, like me, will be wondering why Oonagh’s parents allowed her to take a stick of rock into the theatre to munch ?

    1. Thought she would suck on it?
      Concealed about her person?
      Lack of couth?

    2. Just something you keep in a pocket, along with the bits of string, elastic bands, old toffee papers, penknife etc. Not to mention pocket fluff…

    3. 373086+ up ticks,

      Morning TB,

      In regards to both parties, suckers could be applied.

    4. Cinemas are too loud, with massive bass and almost silent speech. The other people present ruin it with their getting up, moving around, slurping, burping, farting noises. The seats are designed for midgets and for this you pay about 15 per ticket!

    1. Le Grand Remplacement est vrai. Tous les politiciens le veulent.

      Edited: Sauve Marine.

    2. She is right. Yet we could integrate them. It just takes will. Instead, the state lauds and rewards the invader, ignoring their criminality, not punishing them, not watching them ‘for the sake of diversity’. Well, diversity doesn’t work. It’s just another word for enforced difference, and difference does not work in a nation.

      If people are not united under a shared banner of beliefs and values you get discord. As it is, most are on welfare – the first point of contention. If someone wants to come here they must contribute and vanish, their own culture expunged. Anything else is intolerant and abusive.

  19. Western Europe’s strongest artillery and a huge reserve army: What Finland brings to Nato.

    Finland formally became the 31st member of Nato this week, ditching decades of non-alignment to join the military alliance in the wake of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

    The country has spent decades building and maintaining a fighting force to guard its 832 mile frontier with Russia and deter any invasion.

    With hundreds of tanks, dozens of aircraft and the ability to call on large numbers of reservists, the Finnish military has long been one of the most powerful in Europe and is now one of the most capable in Nato.

    What it doesn’t tell you here is that Finland has a male population that is intimately acquainted with firearms and is still staunchly patriotic, both qualities now being largely absent in the UK. This combination had catastrophic consequences for Stalin’s Red Army during the Winter War and left them wary of any further adventures.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/04/05/finland-joins-nato-russia-ukraine-war/

  20. Go for it gal! (my bold)

    ‘I’m done with this sh**!’ Distressing moment Ohio school bus driver resigns ‘after being tormented by bully students who triggered her asthma by spraying perfume’ – as her rant inspires T-SHIRTS

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11944591/Dramatic-moment-Ohio-school-bus-driver-resigns-yelling-students.html

    In the video, Miller could be seen storming down the aisle of her bus after a student told her that somebody had sprayed perfume.
    ‘How much more do you expect me to f*****g take?’ she yelled, then demanded to know which student had done it.
    All the students denied spraying anything, but Miller insisted she could ‘freaking smell it.’
    ‘I’m sick of you, I’m done with it,’ she said, pointing out individual students. ‘I’m gonna start f*****g kicking some serious a**.’
    ‘Do you hear me?’ she yelled. ‘My foot’s gonna be so far up your a** it’s gonna dangle out your f*****g nose.’
    As the kids kept denying they’d sprayed perfume, Miller insisted she could smell it, saying ‘I’m allergic to that s**t.’
    ‘I ought to walk off this bus right now and let you people walk the f**k home,’ she said.

    1. Children are poorly behaved. Sometimes it’s because they don’t know any better. Other times because they are just being led on by the mob.

      1. But mainly it is because their execrable parents and clueless schoolteachers are not-fit-for-purpose.

        1. “Are today’s teachers better or worse than today’s policemen?”

          There will always be some outstandingly good teachers as well as some outstandingly good policemen

          1. Surely, as an an erstwhile teacher yourself, you cannot be unaware that your cri de coeur is a complete and utter non sequitur on a thread discussing the complete paucity of good grace, proper etiquette and decent manners among the young of today.

            As far as I’ve always been aware, police officers do not have a remit for ensuring that youngsters possess those admirable attributes. Parents and teachers certainly do.

    2. My brother is allergic to scent; it gives him migraine, so his wife has to avoid it.

  21. As the people responsible come to the point where they are obliged to justify their actions the more it becomes clear that either, they are incompetent beyond measure and are fitting dupes for those manipulating them or that they are aware of what is happening and are obfuscating, outright lying or both. Either way, plausible denial will not save them.

    Clink on the link within the tweet to get to a short article by Sonia Elijah.

    https://twitter.com/nbreavington/status/1643674603414343681

  22. Elon Musk fears for San Francisco safety after multiple stabbing of ‘angel investor’. 6 April 2023.

    Silicon Valley has been rocked by the murder of a cryptocurrency start-up creator whose violent death has prompted Elon Musk to question police responses to street crime in San Francisco.

    Bob Lee, founder of Cash App, on Tuesday died of multiple stab wounds sustained in an apparent attack outside a luxury apartment building in an area home to headquarters of major finance and tech companies including Google.

    This is the future for all of us of course, not just millionaires! As the power of the State leaches away it will leave the majority unprotected. Gangsterism and Organised Crime will rule where no dares to challenge them! The best hope is that you are too lowly to attract their attention!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/04/06/bob-lee-cash-app-square-murder-elon-musk-crime-fears/

  23. Macron has humiliated himself – and the EU
    So much for Western unity. The French president’s trip to China shows he learnt nothing from Ukraine

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/04/06/emmanuel-macron-has-humiliated-himself-and-the-eu/

    Emmanuel Macron and Ursula Fonda Lyin may be able to outwit and swindle the naïf Mr Sunak into accepting that EU Law and the ECJ should have superior power and authority in part of the United Kingdom than British Law has; and they might chortle with smug satisfaction at the realisation that the British people have become so feeble and supine that they actually think that in surrendering power and sovereignty to the EU Sunak has achieved some sort of victory! A few lines of the great poet John Milton’s Samson Agonistes spring to mind:

    But what more oft in Nations grown corrupt,
    And by their vices brought to servitude,
    Then to love Bondage more then Liberty,
    Bondage with ease then strenuous liberty”.

    But Macron and Fonda Lyin are just as craven, submissive and obsequious as Sunak was when they were faced with Xi Jinping who chewed them up and spat them out like the bits that a rabid dog has rejected after he has done with a juicy bone.

    1. Western democracy faces an existential threat from the expanding power of autocratic regimes

      Such as the EU….

      China is fundamentally opposed to the freedom and liberal values that underpin Western democratic government, as is evident from its brutal suppression of democracy

      So is the EU!

      Apologies for this, but… this comment reminded me so much of ‘The Party’ that I had to post it:

      Bob Fribber
      2 HRS AGO
      What everyone needs to understand about the CCP is that it is only interested in remaining in power. To that end, every promise, every agreement, every single piece of data, every soundbite is to be, by default, a bare faced lie. They only respect power, talking is viewed as a means to an end, keep talking but don’t change plans until it is perceived to be beneficial to do so. China is not a world leader in AI (Baidu’s GPT copy is so weak/copied, all questions have to be translated to English to be AI processed and then translated back to Chinese), Green Energy Industry (all those windmills that don’t work or require power to turn, let alone the broken ones), EVs (cars produced with a carbon footprint far surpassing any ICE, with the added spice of spontaneously combusting all over China). The CCP/China leads in mass pollution, destruction of the worlds fish stocks, making not so cheap stuff that is destined to fail, Government control of it’s people… Disengage, re-source to better non-Chinese companies, wave a big stick, stop selling tech… Wake-up EDITED

      Yet the West has, by destroying it’s industry on the altar of ‘green’ forced itself to be reliant on China. It cannot then complain about the place when it is 1: enforcing those same communist principles here and 2: making every effort to destroy our manufacturing base in tax and moronic policy. Once that’s gone, there will be no coming back.

    2. Russia wanted, after the fall of the USSR, to be aligned with Europe. We have chosen by our own deeds to reject them and, inevitably, they have aligned themselves with China. Our hostility toward Russia will prove, in the not so distant future, to be the Wests greatest mistake. I find it very difficult to understand why we have made such an elementary error. I find it difficult to believe we have governments and politicians that stupid. There is a strong smell of self destruction about it and can, in my opinion, only put down to malevolence, a sense of self hatred on the part of the West or, rather, those in power. We now have the spectacle of the “leader” of the free world turning into The United States of Soviet America, USSA, and Europe being governed by the EU Socialist autocrats who hate their own people and whom they do not trust to govern themselves.

    1. Those emergency alerts are going off next week. Probably some lie about an earthquake or tsunami. The chaps will run around blindly, confused and flustered, but fully dressed.

      The women, however, will still be inside, choosing which pair of trousers to wear.

          1. I think we’ll be on the train home then. It’ll be a bit noisy from other people’s phones! I’ll have to make sure ours are off.

          2. It’s bloody ridiculous. And the govt will try it on for anything- half an inch of rain, a mm of snow- you name it.

  24. Just back from Fakenham market. Continuous drizzle. Other than that – fine. And Tesco and Morrisons are doing the “25% off wine” – Tesco till 10th, M until 8th. And Tesco are doing their cheap veg thing. Morrisons had carrots at 8p a kilo.

    Tony ‘s Knock-off stall had genuine Portuguese Bacalao for £15 a kilo. Brandade will be made this weekend. And bacalao a la vizcaína.

    Only four masks observed.

    Hope the police reinstated Mrs Murrell’s flower garden……

    1. I bet they’ve trashed her rockery.
      Apparently they even gave the BBQ a good going over.
      Looking for ashes of SNP accounts?

      1. I think the DT made a bit of a blunder, and left the post code of her baronial mansion on the photo! Checked Google map but couldn’t see the blue tents in her garden!

  25. Good Moaning.
    As long as you ignore the grey skies, the rain, the cold …..
    On the plus side, the Krankie is probably even more p1ssed off than I am.
    O Schadenfreude, O Schadenfreude,
    How lovely are your outcomes ….”

    1. I notified Police Scotland that Krankie had departed the house carrying two bags just 15 minutes before the polis arrived.

      I suspect the evidence they were looking for was in one of those bags.

  26. Simple question.
    Why are all the politicians, press etc scared stiff of the few thousand nut-job trans mob? It is not as if there were millions. Quite beyond me.

    1. In part because many of the gender benders’ supporters have “followings” numbering in millions.
      If you took the top 100 woke grifters, like Lineker, Radcliffe, Watson et al and ignoring duplications they might well have more followers than the entire voting population of the UK.

  27. What a depressing state of affairs

    Not too many Rumpoles in the Lincoln’s Inn list

    The following have been called to the Bar this Hilary term:

    Muhammad
    Mehedi Hasan, Bhuiyan Mohammad Zaeed Al Naeem Aupoo, Dewan Faisal,
    Vedanta Gokhool-Sewraz, Md. Rashidul Alam Sagar, Md. Abdullah Al Mamun,
    Mohammad Ashraful Hasan Chowdhury, Mohammad Mosarof Hosen Sikder, Abdul
    Azim, Mohammed Salek Naeem Ahmed, Muhammad Umer Binyameen, Mimo Bintay
    Mostofa, Shuhel Ahmed, B M Assaduzzaman Shamim, Nasima Sultana Ela,
    Hamidul Islam, Md Nazmul Islam, Tanvir Haider, Md Hasibul Alam Apu,
    Mohammed Abedin, Sadia Tasnim, Akib Nawaze Chowdhury, Miangul Ali
    Shaharyar, Wasil Jan, Khalid Mahmood, Arslan Ali, Shangkari Sellamuthu,
    Zia Ur Rehman, Maqbool Ahmed, Sylvia Namaganda, Abdullah Al Noman, Manal
    Imran Samad, GulRukh Murtaza Khan, Teo Kee Kang, Shamilka Hewagama,
    Mirha Sohail, Romanja Kumari Bhookhul, Montana Ashleigh Morris, Ayman Mahmoud Saey, Dominika Leitane, Salman G Ahmed, Rafiul Islam, Tess McCarthy,
    Muhammad Awais Arshad, Alicia Tan Shu Qi, Otomiewo Onaterogorgor,
    Ghazala Nasir Khan, Alpan Uz, Maarij Shabbir Qaimkhani, Kong Hui Xing,
    Tim Low Yew How, Md Istiyaq Ahamed, Rafiul Mahmud Chowdhury, Chia Kai
    Yung Nicholas, Ali Ahmad Malik, Pallab Acharjee, Shezadi Noore-Nazreen
    Noormamode, Nur Ellyana Farina Muhammad Ello, Amir Hossain Milton, Tan
    Vei Xhane, Ker Parn Lum, Pirassad Vesunathan, Muhammad Ahmad, Muhammad
    Aemal Khan, Davina Satvinder, Rahat Jabeen, Ahmed Mostakin Kafi, Adib Al
    Ahsan, Chang Jia Huey, Laurène Abboud, Frank Lawton, Madeleine Pinto, Mishaal Azhar Abbasi, Patrick John Steel, Laila Nasir, Edmund William Crawley, Md Anwar Hossen, Kiran Arif Shah, Salaar Hassan Brohi, Huzaifa Ahmad, Kayley Loo Yi Zhen, Olivia Rose Campbell, Syed Owais Ali Shah, Maaz Abdur Rehman, Lai Hui Xin, Nicole Marie Pearson, Rachel Pang Yee Chiu, Chew Kean Ling, RiKendra Lauren A King, Neelam Khatian, Lee Jia Ling, Fabiha Rabbani Khan, Evan Rhys Brewster, Wafi Hassan Kamal, Maida Usman, Refat Bin Reza Rafi, Robert Joseph Lee, Grace-Mary Sweeney,
    Talha Ali Khawaja, Irdina Binti Abdul Jamal, Sin Yee Lim, Grace Ngu Koh
    Ming, Thavaniswaran Kuppan, Weronika Kolodziej, Abdul Haseeb Khan, Ng
    Yun Joo, Nishat Rahman, Zain Kashif, Mohammad Mihrab Kabir, Md. Shufiqul
    Islam, Hishwar Vignes, Ameer Hamza Malik, Ng Bao Xuan, Malik Ibad Ur
    Rehman Hur, Syasya Amelia Binti Jeffrey, Qasim Haroon Cheema, Sarah
    Angel Leong Kye Xuen, Louis Amadeus Dejeu-Castang, Salman Ahmad,
    Muhammad Hamza Yasin, Kubra Irshad, Nadi Ganesan Viswanathan, Ang Kai
    Li, Paras Ali Lodhi, Sanwal Jamal, Imran Rashid, Georgina Thomas, Mootoosamy Naidoo, Fatima Saqib, Wajahat Yar Khan, Hamza Suhuyini Sayibu, Amy Elizabeth Jean Gregg, Jason Mitchell, M Tashdid Anwar, Hassan Akbar, Edward Batrouney, Shahid Azeem, Safdar Iqbal, Joshua Lawrence Ray, Claudia Elizabeth Barry, Ramyaa Veerabathran, Aliya Al-Yassin, Usman Asif Hafeez Khan, Shafaqat Ali, Muhammad Imran Amin Panaawala, Mikhail Behl, Scott George Tuppen, Rafique Anees.

    1. Good grief. And no doubt in the fullness of time some will become judges! God help us.

      1. They won’t be any worse than the white judges who let urban terrorists off “because I sympathise with your cause”. Or who fail to give prison sentences to rapists…..

    2. Yes, the UK is courting disaster.
      A few interesting names though, such as, Louis Amadeus Dejeu-Castang.

    3. I think that overseas lawyers, particularly those from places where English law is still essentially the law of the may be called to the bar, it doesn’t mean they will practice in the UK.

      Tony Blair is/was a member of Lincoln’s inn.

      1. That seems to be the case. Lincoln’s Inn has a procedure for calling to the bar those international students who have since returned home. I have no idea what percentage are international students, whether or not called in absentia.

        Call in absentia is only granted to international students or to UK students in very exceptional circumstances. To be called in absentia you must have completed your minimum number of qualifying sessions prior to your call. If you are an international student and believe you may need to be called in absence you should ensure you have completed qualifying sessions before you leave the UK at the end of your Bar Course. The fee for Call in absentia is £72. Call in absentia is only granted in exceptional circumstances and must be requested by contacting our Registrar, Hannah Scarsbrook.

        It has come to our attention over the last couple of years that non-European Union (EU) students are having greater difficulty in obtaining visas to come over to complete their qualifying sessions and attend their Call Day. We would, therefore, strongly recommend that if you reside outside of the EU and are likely to return home before call that you complete your qualifying sessions before leaving.

        https://www.lincolnsinn.org.uk/student-members/call-to-the-bar/

    4. My friend Mr Rashid is delighted that all their investments in his “Buy a Law Qualification” APP have worked so successfully.

    5. The sheep that are grazing in the fields around here are crying for their lambs , and knowing the pain they will endure during the seasonal HALAL slaughter .

    6. Considering they do not drink alcohol, that’s a lot of slammers going to the pub.

    1. I often use Travelodge when in the UK. They tend to be clean and comparatively cheap and cheerful.
      They are nowhere near the quality of the places the gimmegrants appear to be being allocated.

      1. I should hope not. The illegals have been brutally treated and need all the tender care we can give….

        1. A few years ago I would have agreed, but TL have upgraded their beds considerably in recent years; to the extent that the brand sells well in the private market.

  28. State actor involvement in Nord Stream pipeline attacks is ‘main scenario’, says Swedish investigator. 6 April 2023.

    A state actor’s involvement in the blast of the Nord Stream pipelines last year is the “absolute main scenario”, though confirming identity will prove difficult, the Swedish prosecutor investigating the attack said on Thursday.

    If this were a pantomime (which it is) the kids would all be shouting: “It’s behind you!”

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/swedish-prosecutor-says-still-unclear-who-behind-nord-stream-sabotage-2023-04-06/

      1. Would not have worked so well had it been Mrs Bit.

        I’ll get me chamois leather…

  29. Nicola Sturgeon and her husband arrested. As usual the police didn’t
    name the suspect… they just stated two middle aged males were arrested
    in Glasgow.

    1. What is going on with Nicola Sturgeon? I am aware that this is a personal comment, but she is a public figure after all….I have never seen her look natural and relaxed. She doesn’t seem to have any emotional attachment to her clothes, which is very unusual for a woman.

      She just appears in a series of brightly coloured Barbie doll outfits that look hellishly uncomfortable. Even her wedding dress didn’t look natural.
      Think of any other female politician – Shirley Williams, Margaret Thatcher, Kemi Badenoch, Suella Braverman, Theresa May, Angela Raynor, Yvette Cooper…their clothes all reflect their personalities. Even Priti Patel, who appeared to be going for a Thatcher look, seemed comfortable with it. But Sturgeon’s clothes are so patently out of touch with her personality – they come across as just camouflage that she’s hiding behind.
      Does she have ANYTHING apart from political scheming and hatred of the English?

      1. I think her tightly- fitting and colourful outfits were her way of expressing her personality. She has good legs but those too-high heels were not flattering. She wanted to appear business-like I think.

      2. She has played the role for her constituents for so long that being herself would probably cause the universe to stop..

        Like most politicians, confronted with her own stupidity isn’t something they can face. She can’t very well admit ‘Look, it’s not England’s fault. Not Westminster’s. We’re given vast amounts of money and we waste it. I should have cut taxes to create jobs, but I wanted a client state. I don’t care about your drug and booze addicitons because I can make you blame someone else rather than make you accept it’s your own fault. ‘

        Reality doesn’t creep in to the statist mindset. It can’t. Heck, Hunt keeps saying that high taxes will help with the debt. Brown said the same. They are both demonstrably wrong. It is the same as an idiot overspending and then keeping just up with his salary, watching the overdraft grow and grow, begging for that little flicker of pay rise before he spends it all and proclaiming he is managing his debt. The idea that cutting spending would solve his problems is beyond him.

        The statist cannot be rational.

    1. Yes, but when the nurses went on strike and we walked into the hospital for his therapy time they didn’t need to kick him (even if it was unintentional) to make their point.

  30. Covid jabs will be given to vulnerable BABIES for first time: Health chiefs recommend two Pfizer doses for 60,000 at-risk infants aged between 6 months and 4 years old

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11945899/Covid-jabs-given-vulnerable-BABIES-Health-chiefs-recommend-two-Pfizer-doses.html
    I wonder how many children will be harmed by the vaccines and how many similar vulnerable children they have been tested on?
    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/04/06/12/69548373-11945899-image-a-29_1680781861904.jpg

    1. I wonder how many babies fall into the over 80 age group – oh!

      Sixmonths old and serious health problems, let’s give you a worthless jab – that will save medical costs.

    2. The vax harms will be trumpeted as proof that covid does kill babies and some dolts will swallow it without asking why that wasn’t true yesterday. The only defence is a sufficient level of non-compliance.

      1. The vulnerable children killed as a result will merely be collateral damage to those pushing this.

      1. The problem is that those are “the little people”, a Government minister or senior advisor should be in the dock.

        1. One getting sued might scare the rest off from pushing the dangerous jabs.
          I went into a doctor’s practice a couple of weeks ago, they were still pushing them with a big poster saying you could get boostered there.

  31. It is wonderful to see that a Kennedy is standing for the White House again. This despite the fact that it is now universally agreed that
    the CIA murdered his uncle and his father.

    The filth of the media have smeared and smeared, but the honesty and integrity of Robert Kennedy Jnr shines to give them the lie, and his courage in standing is of the highest order.There is still greatness to be found in America, and this man is a fine example. If you have a vote please use it for him.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b365d4abb5c3007faf35ee8d0fe3dd7c77bc399cc38eac387d48dde9eef9e63f.jpg

    1. The media have done a good smear job on him though. My colleague (the one who believes EVERYTHING the mainstream media says) thinks that Kennedy is a dangerous, manipulative liar who has been rejected even by his own family.

  32. It is wonderful to see that a Kennedy is standing for the White House again. This despite the fact that it is now universally agreed that
    the CIA murdered his uncle and his father.

    The filth of the media have smeared and smeared, but the honesty and integrity of Robert Kennedy Jnr shines to give them the lie, and his courage in standing is of the highest order.There is still greatness to be found in America, and this man is a fine example. If you have a vote please use it for him.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b365d4abb5c3007faf35ee8d0fe3dd7c77bc399cc38eac387d48dde9eef9e63f.jpg

    1. I don’t want him deported. I want him slung on to the street and flayed alive.

      1. I don’t want just him deported. I want the whole bloody nest of cockroaches gone.

    2. Every day it gets worse, our useless but devious political classes and civil service. Have effed something else up. When will this stupid idiotic destruction of our culture and social structure stop ?

  33. Just heard a neat line. “The light at the end of the tunnel is just another train coming at you”.

    1. Old rabbit says to the young rabbit “Don’t run across the road, just sit still between the headlights …… damm, trust that to be a Morgan Three Wheeler.”

  34. Bogey five today

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    1. Nearly a five but changed my mind and got lucky.

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      1. Par for me too.

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    2. A pretty Birdie Three for me.

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  35. Sainsbury’s shoppers upset over ‘disgusting’ vacuum-packed mince. 6 April 2023.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/db0b3a80288a0f47b0a85cdfaccf66ec0c991991f91606cf2631fe4cdc593444.png

    Sainsbury’s has defended its new vacuum packed minced beef after shoppers complained it turned meat to “mush”.

    The supermarket previously packaged mince in a plastic tray covered with film but made the change to help meet its target of reducing plastic in its stores.

    However, some shoppers have criticised the eco-friendly alternative, branding the meat “unappetising” and “disgusting”, while one reviewer said it resembled a “kidney”.

    Hmmm?? Difficult to know what to make of this. I don’t buy mince anyway.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/04/06/sainsburys-shoppers-disgust-vacuum-packed-mince/

    1. I haven’t bought mince for ages but I fail to see the problem with this packaging – just open it with scissors and let it get some air. It does look rather bloody though.

      1. I buy top quality beef or pork and mince it myself. That way I know what I’m getting.

        1. You can never be certain about mince, but only if you have done it yourself.

        2. I remember an old fashioned manual mincer at home when I was young. Possibly what went in it was the remains of the Sunday joint. There was always a Sunday joint ordered from the local butcher.

          1. Firstborn has a dedicated mincer and sausage-stuffer.
            Excellent piece of kit.

          2. My mincer is an attachment to my Kenwood Major food mixer. My (new) sausage filler is an excellent German one called Zelsius.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9e5c1ad5522c6611a1027f3c3c922e3512ba89621c79e490762ea76a7b7f9bdc.png My previous one was too flimsy and eventually broke down.
            Coincidentally I have used mine today. I have made a batch of pork sausages using a seasoning called ‘Yorkshire Pride’, which I got on YouTube from an expat Yorkshire butcher (who lives in Spain)
            who calls himself “Mr Paul”.

          3. My mum’s mincer was similar but not identical…….. the rusty blades look familiar.

          4. I’ve still got my Spong mincer……….doesn’t get much use these days. I used to mince up leftovers for pasties.

          5. Built to last. My mother died in 1973 – the kitchen still had the Spong mincer (and a two-hole bean slicer) that were wedding presents when she married in 1926

    2. What’s wrong with mince? It’s the place you buy it from that’s the problem.

    3. They don’t have to Vac pac it so hard. You can remove all the air without squeezing the product flat.

    4. The only disgusting thing about that mince is the fact that it only has a 5% fat content.A minimum fat content of 21% is necessary for flavour and nourishment.

    1. “Man regrets pretending to be a woman when he/she/it sees the queue for the lavatory.”

      If I am tired and need a rest, the last place I would consider lying down is in the bog!

      1. Most people are bi-lingual in US and British English, therefore a translation is superfluous…

        1. In Africa they call it the “washroom”. You’re lucky if there’s a working tap though.

        2. I keep telling you: the nonsensical abomination of a term “British English” does not exist. There is Standard English (spoken where it was invented) and there is Pidgin English, one of a number of versions spoken abroad. Vapid Americanisms come under the latter category.

          1. I think it is a bit unnecessary to ostentatiously post translations as though they are corrections, for a language that everyone understands. Many memes and jokes come from the US, we don’t need to translate them.
            British English is a term used and understood across the world. Languages evolve.

          2. That’s funny, but not realistic. The world has moved on since 1786! I work with apps that have to run in different languages – you would not believe how many different kinds of English are supported!

            British English covers the King’s English plus all dialects from these islands. If we didn’t have that term, we’d have to invent it to describe this concept.

          3. I keep telling you. English is devolving. The beautiful language that commenced with Chaucer; evolved through Shakespeare, Marlowe and Donne; then reached its zenith with Austen, the Brontës, Dickens and Kipling; is now in retrograde deterioration. No one speaks or writes beautiful descriptive English prose or poetry any more; it is just a dismal progression of cacophonous retarded grunts and obscenities.

          4. Tell you what, Grizz – look up “Dogmatic” in one of your many dictionaries..

          5. We’re just in a bad phase of civilisation, that’s all. We’ve lived through decadence; now we’re in chaos; in a few years, we will be in regeneration again.

          6. There are lots of precedents! It’s a known long cycle. Every reserve currency cycle ends with chaos as the current holder tries to hang onto their power, and the challenger takes it.
            This one is worse than most, because of the number of fiat currencies, the amount of debt, mass migration destabilising the west, evil attempts at a fascist takeover (15 minute concentration camps, “wildlife conservation zones”, government land grabs etc.).

          7. All we can do is remain optimistic and as healthy as we can. Nothing is sure for any of us…

          8. We have a lot more pain to live through first…
            Hope you have food, water, shelter, security, barterability, wealth preservation…

          9. Seriously, I do not know anyone who is better prepared than your family by the sound of it. We’re in a small town – I’d rather be on a small holding out in some kaff somewhere.

          10. I think the ideal situation is a small group of houses with people who have the same interests as you, i.e. small farmers, hand workers etc.

        1. At one time I held the record for number of rulers broken over my hands by Mr McGregor, the headmaster and proprietor of the St Gerrans pre-preparatory school near St Mawes.

          1. Luckily for me, my primary school headmaster did not approve of caning girls. Otherwise, I might still have the scars;-))
            Mr. McGreggor- did he keep rabbits?

          2. He was very fierce but we all loved him because he was a tremendous story teller who kept us all spell-bound.

          3. Our teachers would give a rap over the knuckles with a ruler but not hard enough to break it.

        2. I had a slap on the back of my legs aged 5 because I came up with a better way of writing the letter 8.
          O on top of O. Miss bad tempered Bishop didn’t like that.

          1. So did I- she taught DS and was a Scot. Not too bad but her recipes were dire.

          2. We had Miss Hargreaves for DS! Very prim and proper – red hair in a bun – we called her Miss Presser-foot! She taught us to use a sewing machine (well, not me actually, my Mum did) and was always saying ‘Presser-foot up/down’ until we dissolved into giggles!

    1. It won’t even get that far. Intentional, government mandated energy shortages will mean food cannot be grown. Stuff storing it. You won’t be able to have it at all.

      When will the green fanatics realise they are wrong? When will the state admit the scam? When will we start producing energy in significant surplus?

        1. “This unfortunate period of starvation is the end result of our not combating climate change earlier.”

          1. Indeed. When the Greens started going national years ago – one of the planks in their “platform” was to reduce the UK population by half – to about 30 million.

            It wasn’t exactly a vote catcher!

          2. But it’s always other people who need to be culled. Society would be much more usefully served if we culled the greenies and their pet primitives.

          3. They really ought to set a good example and top themselves if they’re so worried. Funny, their worry takes the form of lecturing others.

          4. A greeniac told me that recently ‘There are just too many people here.’ I asked him why the green supported and enforced massive uncontrolled immigration. To his credit, he didn’t, but Lucas wants white people eradicated. When she wants anything built, grown or paid for she might change her mind.

          5. Rousseau has a lot to answer for. Of course like these idiots, he never experienced “the noble savage” first hand and those that did tended not to live to tell the tale.

          6. Not really. We are probably at peak population now and the world is supporting everyone. One in six people is infertile across the world. Prosperous countries where women are educated are having fewer children. Population is going to fall off a cliff in the next century.

          7. Automation can replace the missing bodies in production. And driving buses.

          8. Take a look at the median age of the population of the world. It’s ~30 years old, and even if that fertility figure you quote is remotely correct the breeding potential is enormous, particularly amongst Africans and Muslims.

            Do you really believe that all the poor of the world are going to be able to live and be supported in the lifestyles that are being sold to them?

            I certainly don’t.

          9. They tend to assume that the population as a whole is more intelligent than experience tells us it is.
            UNLESS the elites step in the population of the poor is going to expend far faster than that of the producers.

          10. Yes, but it was stable for centuries before the west started interfering. Once we can’t afford to hand out aid, I doubt the same stuff will come from China.

      1. They will admit that they are wrong at the same time as those who wanted the Covid poison gene therapy injected into everybody admit that they too were wrong. But by then Gates will acknowledge that his plan to reduce the earth’s human population by over 50% has been a great success.

    1. About 25 years ago I was involved in developing the business case for solar thermal electricity generation. (The designed system provided 7×24 supply as it had inbuilt storage to cater for night). At that time the production cost of electricity took an end to end view, covering the recoup of capital investment over the lifetime of the system as well as the costs of transportation from the point of generation to the end customer. Only by doing such an analysis can the true costs of production be evaluated. I have not seen, among all the business cases, especially those for renewables, a clear definition of the scope of figures. In those days, and I still haven’t seen anything to the contrary, coal fired generation, over a 50 year lifetime of a power station, remains the most cost effective generation method, at about $0.07 per KWh, followed by gas at about $0.09. The cheapest renewable is solar at about $ 0.15, and wind comes in at around $0.20. (Wind and solar costs do not take into account any storage to provide 7×24 supply. Nuclear, over a 50 year lifetime, was about $0.16. The point is I am very suspicious of most figures quoted as without a definition of the scope of the analysis, any comparison is unsound. Unfortunately I doubt if any Government Minister has the engineering skills to challenge cases put to them by the various lobby groups. The figures are slanted to support the case being made. For me, renewables are unable to provide a cost effective supply, and subsidies/levies only serve to distort the market.

    1. Put them straight on to another boat – a prison hulk. Keep putting them in there until it’s sinking and tow it out 50 miles past Anglesea and anchor it there. Rinse. Repeat.

  36. You couldn’t make it up. Well someone obviously must doing so.
    I’ve got an appointment booked next Tuesday for my totally worn out bone on bone, left knee joint. I’ve just had a message from the West Herts Trust.
    Due to the 4 day doctors strike, your appointment on Tuesday has been cancelled.
    As if I don’t have enough ‘king problems with the National Health. I’m deliberately leaving out the word Service.
    Happy Easter. 🐇🐰 Or has that been cancelled as well.

      1. We must not get Cross.
        The slammers must have rearranged it, the two events were never known to conflict previously.

        1. Must have done.
          Ramadan cycles slowly around the calendar, getting a bit earlier each year (11 days or so). 12 lunar as opposed to 12 calendar months interval.

    1. Blimey, Eddy, it never rains…
      Can you lubricate the joint through red medicine? Or, even find a rest position that’s comfortable?

      1. I don’t think the people I see at the ‘consultations’ are fully trained doctors. I believe they are trained grade 9 orthopaedic nurses. Many male so it’s easy for misunderstandings.

  37. Daily Mail story:

    Abusive husband, 29, is jailed for 20 years for murdering his pregnant wife and her unborn baby by pushing her off Arthur’s Seat – after she used her dying words to tell those battling to save her life that he pushed her
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11946273/Husband-29-guilty-murdering-pregnant-wife-pushing-Arthurs-Seat.html

    Why is it murder when the abusive husband kills his wife’s unborn child but not murder when the abortion clinic does it?

      1. Don’t give Gates any ideas. But let’s open the can anyway.

        Murder is a crime under Common Law, not statute law. There is no statute on the books outlawing murder. That would imply that Common Law takes superiority to legislation in the hierarchy of laws. Common Law requires that no-one in their dealings with another may cause harm, injury or loss or infringe inalienable rights. Everything is permitted but an individual’s inalienable rights stop where another’s inalienable rights begin. Murder clearly does infringe the inalienable rights of the murderee. Unless the murderee has consented to it.

        The question revolves around when a new life is considered to be a life. Is it at the point of conception or sometime after conception. Religious texts from which much of Natural Law and Common Law is derived would say at the point of conception. What ever it is, any abortion executed after that point infringes the common law rights of the unborn child. Since the unborn child cannot consent to being terminated, it is unlawful.

        That’s as I would understand it.

        Seconds out, round 2.

          1. I hope that has helped YOU to understand how we SHOULD be governed. For further information go to:

            richardvobes.com

            and check under ‘Resources’

    1. Because he killed his wife first and the unborn child died as a consequence of that act.

    2. The law used to be very, very careful not to accord any rights or anything that looked like rights to the unborn child – I assume because of the abortion lobby.

    1. Isn’t there a statute of limitations? This is 2024 and the allegations took place in 2016!

      1. Yes there is a statute of limitations and it has passed. It is just another point in this charade against President Trump. This is an indictment in which it can be truly said: “There is no there, there!” It will, in the end, cost Alvin Bragg his job, even his career, because I have no doubt that he will find efforts are made to have him disbarred for malpractice. They should succeed.

    1. I can’t help admiring their dedication to creating a work of art out of their bodies….but how can they look at that in the mirror every morning?

        1. Someone on Mumsnet once commented “you’ll be 95 and the nurses will be giving you a blanket bath and they’ll be saying ‘I bet she was a right goer in her day!'”

      1. Nature wants stuff to vie strange forms with fancy.
        [Antony and Cleopatra]
        Nature’s above art in this respect.
        [King Lear]

        But is this art?

        When I lived in London soon after graduating I went to the cinema in the Fulham Road to see Ken Russell’s film, The Devils, which was pretty gory, pretty pseudo and not particularly good.

        My two companions were Steve, who had been captain of the UEA rugby team, and Dick a slightly pretentious Cambridge graduate. After the film we went to a crowded pub opposite the ABC cinema as it then was.

        The following conversation ensued:

        Steve: Well that was a load of crap!

        Dick. I think you are being a bit harsh – the very fact that this film is stimulating our critical reactions and that we are talking about it suggests that it is art!

        Steve, Yes, Dick but if that chap over there climbed on the table, pulled out his willy and started peeing on everybody we would all talk about it but surely that wouldn’t make it art!.

        (Pause)

        Unless of course he was a piss artist!

        1. Yes, it’s definitely art. I’m not inspired to follow in their footsteps though.

      1. yes, that is definitely going to come back and bite them!

        Especially if anyone remembers that Oliver Cromwell banned the slave trade, and Charles II brought it back!

    1. Perhaps someone could point out to this joke woke idiot the sterling work done by the ROYAL Navy in sorting out and stopping the slave trade.

      1. The man is a total idiot.

        All one can say in his defence is that he can’t be expected to use the brains God didn’t give him.

    2. Watch the congenital bloody idiot give away huge sums and strip the royal collections.
      I am starting to think that I am no longer a Royalist.
      But neither do I want a President with any administrative or political power.

      1. That is my view, too. Perhaps a monarchist but no longer a royalist. Neither do I want a president either, but I don’t want a King involved in a political organisation that seeks to harm our country for its own nefarious purposes, with that King soundly on board with that.

  38. Re the comments below on “American” v “English” English, may I recommend this excellent podcast, The History of English and a propos of the current conversation, the latest episode, on Movie accents. Don’t be put off by the title – it’s about the development of “American” English since America was colonised and it’s really interesting.

    https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-history-of-english-podcast/id538608536?i=1000606779219

    The series itself starts with Indo-European and has just about reached the end of the Elizabethan era.

  39. Personally, I don’t give a damn about your opinions about The King and the Royal Family.
    However, the coronation is a month away. I support the Monarchy and think that a republic in UK would be a dreadful mistake.
    Constitutional monarchy is the best form of government. Focus on the institution and not the individuals.
    I shall watch the Coronation as it’s the only one I shall ever see.
    God save the King and Queen.

    1. However, it is of concern that it has been reported that No10 will be drafting the Coronation Oath instead of the Earl Marshall and the Privy Council. The wording of the oath is crucial because the King CANNOT swear to rule according to our customs and laws while he supports the aims of a foreign organisation, to wit the World Economic Forum.

      I am sure a lot of people will be watching this very closely.

      1. He will make the oath with fingers crossed behind his back. He doesn’t care. He doesn’t have a great track record when it comes to keeping promises.
        “…forsaking all others…”
        “…I won’t get involved in politics, I am not stupid”
        “…I am not going to marry Camilla”
        “…Camilla will be known as Queen Consort…”

        Why would anyone think that it matters a jot what oath he swears, as he will have no intention of sticking to it?

        1. He did wait eight years after Diana’s death before marrying Camilla. I think she’s been good for him.

          1. That’s not the point though – the point is that he has repeatedly lied and gone back on his word.

            I don’t care if he marries Camilla or not – I do care that he makes promises that he has no intention of keeping.

          2. I don’t begrudge him the happiness he has found with Camilla after the unhappy arranged marriage to Diana.

          3. Seems like a well-grounded woman. Hopefully rein (geddit?) in Charles’ excesses.

          4. I am a little sceptical about whether she is as lacking ambition as the Palace publicity machine would have us believe. She has had the benefits of an enormous PR campaign – everything has been calculated from her clothes to the down to earth charities she supports.
            She is not in my family, so I don’t really have an opinion about her though.

          5. She’s mostly in the background, which I find encouraging. What she’s doing there I don’t know, but not shooting her mouth off about things is always a good start.

          6. She is of a generation that is immune to wokeness, and doesn’t splurge everything all over social media!
            But you are right – that is a definite plus!

          7. I think that was more giving time for the dust to settle and the PR machine to work.

        2. If he makes it and fails to stick to it then we, the people, can remove him (if enough of us are prepared to go for it and run the risk of state-sanctioned violence against us).

          1. Arguably HM didn’t stick to her Coronation oath either. Their number 1 priority will always be the continued prestige and wealth of their family.

          2. No she didn’t. She could never have given Royal Assent to any Treaty which handed British sovereignty to the EU if she did.

        3. If he makes it and fails to stick to it then we, the people, can remove him (if enough of us are prepared to go for it and run the risk of state-sanctioned violence against us).

    2. However, it is of concern that it has been reported that No10 will be drafting the Coronation Oath instead of the Earl Marshall and the Privy Council. The wording of the oath is crucial because the King CANNOT swear to rule according to our customs and laws while he supports the aims of a foreign organisation, to wit the World Economic Forum.

      I am sure a lot of people will be watching this very closely.

    3. I think you can be in favour of the concept of the monarchy without having much time for the monarch himself.

      1. Indeed you can. And Magna Carta gives us the right to remove an unsatisfactory Monarch.

        1. Not so- Magna Carta gave the barons the right to call the king to account. It did not give them the right to depose the monarch.

          1. I think it depends on which version of the Charter you refer to. Only 1215 Magna Carta should be considered the real one according to many. There were several re-writes so it would be more favourable to the Monarch. I’ll have to do more digging. One thing is certain, Parliament cannot repeal or amend any part of it as it was not a Charter from Parliament in the first place. It didn’t exist in 1215.

          2. But it gave us all rights under Common Law, a power and prerogative that Many Parliaments down the ages has usurped.

      2. yeah, but when the next one is a woke gobshyte as well, then the whole package is looking distinctly less appealing.
        Bring back the King over the Water!

        1. One of my best friends at UEA used to be a member of the Royal Stuart Society and he went about with a sticker on the back window of his car saying “ALBRECHT FOR KING”, (Albrecht of Bavaria was the Stuart Pretender at the time).

          A grand little lad was young Albrecht!

        2. Funnily enough, when I toasted the King last Sunday, I nearly held my glass over the water jug.

    4. Charles/William…a republic…Charles/William…a republic. Both horrible choices.

      I used to love the pageantry of royal events, that rose above horrid politics in the reign of EiiR. :-(((
      I can’t enjoy the coronation, but I hope that you do – I grew up on stories of the last one – we’ve waited a long time!

      1. The late and much-missed Queen seldom put a foot wrong…….. not sure about Charley & Wills. The funeral rites for the Queen were impeccable. I expect the Coronation will go without a hitch. I will probably watch most of it. I was four years old last time, my father had recently died and I was staying with my uncle and aunt, while my mum found her feet as a widow. I went to a street party and still have the photo from that – it was a very wet day. I hope the weather will be better this time.

        1. Her Majesty had the advantage of support and advice from Prince Phillip, a very smart and effective military man who stood no nonsense. That helped.

          1. Seeing how she made mistakes after Philip’s death makes me think that he was telling her what to do all along – Philip was probably one of the best Kings that Britain has ever had!

          2. By then, she was old and tired, and just lost her husband. I guess she ran out of energy, was easily convinced, and yes, lost her biggest supporter.

          3. I think she switched to being guided by Charles after Philip died – probably wanted to make the changeover as smooth as possible.
            She was an average woman who did her best in the role that was allocated to her in life, and I respect that.

          4. Yes, she was – I meant “a woman of average intelligence” really. But her self-discipline was extraordinary, and yes, inspiring.

          5. I’d hate to be dealt the cards she had. Who would want to be Royal? Not me.

          6. With Philip as King and RAB Butler, Enoch Powell and Norman Tebbit as PMs, the Empire would never have failed.

        2. I was 9 and attended some sort of village bunfight. All the while, I was wishing to be with my brother, who with the Sea Scouts, was busy lighting a beacon at the top of Bath Hills, part of a country-wide chain.

          This was on the borders with Norfolk and Suffolk.

      2. The pageantry is only there to fool us into believing that we have an ancient constitution which is being respected. In reality, Britain is to all intents and purposes a de facto republic. One in which Parliament has usurped the power and thinks itself soveriegn while practicing an elective dictatorship.

        1. Actually, I think the monarchy has much more power than we are led to believe. It is no coincidence that Charles is so deeply involved in the WEF – they know who holds the power in our country. The Windsors were monarchs of the greatest empire the world has ever seen – granted, the Rothschilds were the power behind the throne, but does anyone really believe that they did not use the opportunity to profit?
          Yet we are supposed to believe that they own relatively little personal wealth!

          1. Nor I – yet. I have a second-hand copy in my stack. I have SO MUCH to read to catch up with how the world is really being run. I’ve nearly finished Douglas Reed’s ‘The Controversy of Zion’. Hannah Arendt’s ‘The Origins of Totalitarianism’ up next but Hogg may leap-frog that.

          2. I like the elective dictatorship actually – it is stable, and has given us a benevolent dictatorship in the past, which is the best form of government.
            Because both parties have now been bought, we don’t have the “elective” part now – just the dictatorship.

    5. Until Charles appeared and showed his true colours I would have agreed.
      God help the Monarchy.

    6. I was aged 11 in June 1953.

      In the Republic of Ireland, this event caused the inaugural boom in domestic television sales.

      My family did not have a TV; I watched the event at an uncle & aunt’s home not far away.

      It was a dismal, rainy day in London – and in ‘Kingstown’ as it was then widely known – Dun Laoghaire.

      I felt very sorry for the new Queen, heavily crowned, undergoing a lengthy ritual conducted by a ‘Nottler-bunch’ of Bishops . . .

    7. What’s wrong with the thought of President Blair – or any of your recent PMs?

      With the qualuty of government that we have in Canada, I would be in favour of a stronger monarch that could tell a PM to go away and rethink some stupid policy that would harm the country.

    8. I saw Her Majesty’s Coronation. It was a bright occasion at a time of real austerity. Charles wants his to be a low key affair. I celebrated the Jubilees, but I can’t get enthused about the upcoming crowning.

  40. That’s me for today. Drizzly morning – though useful shopping in t’market and snaffling wine offers at Tesco and Morrisons.

    After lunch the sun came out – nice long walk; greenhouse work. Now, with glass of cranberry juice (no booze till Sunday – sighs…) enjoying the evening light.

    Have a jolly evening looking into the history of slavery in your family and how you plan to make amends….

    A demain.

    1. Let me make it clear right now that the Dog is NOT getting any compensation…

      1. Ah, but is the cat compensating you?

        Mongo and Ozzie are not servants. They’re far too pampered.

          1. Mongo does come log pulling with me. We load up a little sled and he hauls away. Often not where you point, but he’ll do his best and look gormlessly happy doing it.

      1. Lent ends on Holy Thursday, but Lenten fasting (and personal commitments) usually continues until Easter. Papal document Paschalis Solemnitatis recommends this in order that we “with uplifted and welcoming heart be ready to celebrate the joys of the Sunday of the resurrection.”

        Just quoting!

        1. My (RC) book of Lenten practices said that fasting ended at noon on Holy Saturday. It’s good enough for me 🙂

          1. The MR scourges herself – and I feel obliged to follow out of solidarity!

  41. And there you all go again…hate, hate and nastiness about the King. For god’s sake give the man a chance. Bloody hell, this site is really getting me down these days.
    Goodnight.

    1. It’s not about hate.

      The man is deliberately entering politics and should be stopped from so doing.

      1. I think that’s the key – the man. Charles ‘isn’t’ a man. He is King. As King, he, as a person; doesn’t exist. He the nation, not any one person.

        1. We will be calling him King Charles DaDa next , as if he is an African tribesman.. because he is behaving like one .

          He is an utter twerp .

      2. It must be remembered that he ‘is deliberately entering politics’ which are against the best interests of this country and its people, over which he will reign.

    2. He’s forgetting the phrase that keeps the monarchy stable: “Never complain, never explain.”

      My ancestors served on the naval ships that fouught against the slavers. I’ve nothing to bother about. We also tried to get food to the Irish during the famine. A great uncle was also involved in the kinder transport.

      This is why I get to be a git, because frankly, this country has done enough for the ungrateful buggers. They sold each other out because they’re primitive. The West stopped slavery. Africa continues it.

    3. I’m a bit late to the debate but what hatred have people been showing towards the King?

      As someone that has always defended the monarchy, I feel very uneasy about Charles and his green environmental agenda.

      1. Issue of institution and the incumbent.
        At the height of Trump hatred, I was appalled at the insults peddled by Khan in London, for example. Towards the President of the United States! The fact that Trump as a person is a git has nothing to do with it.
        And see the effect just now: Biden insulted the Saudis, now they are doing their best to sabotage him.
        The UK may need the support of soon-to-be President Trump, and he will remember.

        1. I have no personal feelings about Trump, as I don’t know him personally, but I do admire him for his political stance, standing up to the forces of globalism and the left wing mainstream media.

        2. When all the people that hate Trump also hate us and are bringing in dystopian regulations to make our livelihoods impossible then one has to side with Trump

      2. Issue of institution and the incumbent.
        At the height of Trump hatred, I was appalled at the insults peddled by Khan in London, for example. Towards the President of the United States! The fact that Trump as a person is a git has nothing to do with it.
        And see the effect just now: Biden insulted the Saudis, now they are doing their best to sabotage him.
        The UK may need the support of soon-to-be President Trump, and he will remember.

      3. I’ve always been a royalist, but I can’t support Charles’s expression of political views. He is bringing the monarchy into disrepute. You’d have thought he’d have learned something during his long apprenticeship. What makes me distrust him most, apart from the wokery, is his “defender of the faiths” idiocy. There should be no mistake – Britain is a fundamentally Christian country with an established church. Ideologies like islam have no place here.

        1. Yes, and we are all armchair warriors, aren’t we. Everyone pontificates here but what do we do?
          I would if I could and so would my husband but we are both battling different forms of cancer so we can’t be out on the streets.

          1. I’m with you in spirit. We all pontificate but can “do”.nothing. For one, there are so many things about which I am angry and two, we need young people to “do”. I do not have the energy and CBA to go up to London to join protesters. Which cause to support would be the problem!

          2. I have fought the political fight for a decade or more (campaigning, supporting candidates, fund-raising). I’m getting a bit long in the tooth now, but if I have to, I’d do it again.

    4. It’s not hate but he should have followed the apolitical stance of his mother who was and still is the most admired woman, across the world, who was respected for herself. She never showed any political or radical thing and if anyone was asked what HMQ was known for, it would probably be her love for her people, her love of horses and her love of corgis.
      HMK is more known for his green, as in naive, views and other unproven woke claims. That is not leadership.
      Respect is earned and cannot be commanded.

      1. The Queen was the epitome of England, and all things English. That is what she stood for.

      2. Perhaps it’s those who faced real peril in having to fight a war, where the penalty for failure was a bit more than a few hurty tweets, that have the right perspective. Maybe people need discomfort and peril to get their thoughts on the right track?

        For myself, I know that I appreciate my family and friends a great deal more after the heart failure incidents than before – and want nothing to do with those who exhibited disdain. I have seen my mortality, and become harder as a result.

        1. I appreciate what you say. I had a major op in 1998 didn’t eat for 15=days and had a pulmonary embolism during that time. Lost 3 stones in weight. In 2009 had DVT and another PE . Dicing with death puts things into perspective.

          1. Lordy, Alf. That’s quite a list!
            But, I’m not surprised after seeing the muck served in Crawley Hospital to the patients (staff canteen won prizes) when Firstborn was born, I told SWMBO to telephone for pizza. A dry cheese sandwich with a scoop of smash (!) – also dry, with a crust, and powder in it… WTF?

    5. I’d also – not take issue, but raise a point: as a man, Charles can do as he wishes. That’s right and proper. However he gives up any sense of individuality, any concept of selfhood when he became monarch.

      That is, sadly, the deal (and why you can bugger off with me ever being a king).

    6. He has a chance, LotL. He is a Constitutional Monarch. The deal is, he get’s to be King, we get to be governed by the people we elected. If he wants to govern, or even influence us, he puts himself up for election.

      Otherwise, he butts out.

      1. Check Common (Constitutional) Law.

        The people are sovereign, not Parliament, not even the King (he is merely first among equals.)

      2. I agree to a point but most of the folk here have been opposed to him even before he acceded to the throne.
        This site is becoming less and less tolerant of opposing views. That’s how I see it.

  42. Here’s some for you:
    What were electric eels called before electricity was invented?
    What was the best thing before sliced bread was invented?

    1. Bernard. Geoff, Colin, Frank. Who knows what they call themselves?

      The knife used to slice the bread.

    2. They weren’t called eels, but knifefish, and their study was the source of the first batteries.

      Their electrical capabilities were first studied in 1775, contributing to the invention in 1800 of the electric battery.” Wiki.

      1. There’s evidence of a lead acid battery which dates back 4000 years and apparently still works

        1. Yes, I read/saw that also a few years ago. Do you watch Neil Oliver’s history podcasts? Well worth it.

      1. As a work of art, it’s on a par with the tatts posted earlier. Actually, I think I prefer the tatts.

  43. If I ever find the surgeon who messed up my limb transplants, I’ll kill him with my bear hands!

  44. Does anyone here trust Humza or Police Scotland or Nicola?

    Quote of the day

    ‘To me that sounds like a conspiracy theory, that we were in cahoots with Police Scotland about the timing.’

    – Scottish First Minister Humza Yousaf on the timing of the police’s raid on Nicola Sturgeon and Peter Murrell’s home.

    1. I rather think we should do the same. The Hunt budget must be reversed and the state rolled back – by force.

      1. Skin and bone, like Sunak. Forget slavery, whatabout all our missionaries lost to the pot?

      1. Oh my goodness me! They didn’t mess about, did they? It looks like something I would brush up against as a child in the 1950s in the Co-op butcher dept. You certainly knew where your meat came from in those days.

  45. How Nicola Sturgeon drove the wealthy out of Scotland
    Experts warn Scotland faces ‘brain drain’ as a result of Sturgeon’s tax policies

    https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Ftax%2Fnews%2Fhow-snp-drove-wealthy-from-scotland%2F

    By raising taxes above the equivalent value for England, that’s how.
    In Norway, our richer folk (the investors / the unfairly rich bastards) are leaving, as the new tax rates bite. The owner of the company I work for recently moved to Switzerland, meaning his county now has a significant reduction in their tax (local taxes levied on income & nett wealth), to the tune of several millions.
    Good one, eh? That told him! Aren’t socialists a) wonderful and b) clever…

    1. The greed, ignorance and stupidity of politicians never ceases to astound.

      It as hilarious to hear Hunt refer to share dividends as ‘unearned income’ and that his attitude toward the debt was to tax more. Not spend less, take more money out of the economy. The OBR refuses to acknowledge that tax cuts raise revenues. Imagine that being refused in your calculations. I suppose they have to, as their every suggestion would be ‘cut taxes’ but it is the same problem the Met Office has: they insist on pushing climate change into their projections and as a result they’re always wrong.

    2. Just the owner?

      The socialist government in Ontario not only increased the price of electricity, they sold excess power to New York at a discount. In some cases entire companies packed up shop and moved a few miles down the road. Owner no longer pays taxes here, staff no longer pay taxes here and there’s not much corporate tax being paid here.
      At least the government could claim that they were green.

  46. How Nicola Sturgeon drove the wealthy out of Scotland
    Experts warn Scotland faces ‘brain drain’ as a result of Sturgeon’s tax policies

    https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Ftax%2Fnews%2Fhow-snp-drove-wealthy-from-scotland%2F

    By raising taxes above the equivalent value for England, that’s how.
    In Norway, our richer folk (the investors / the unfairly rich bastards) are leaving, as the new tax rates bite. The owner of the company I work for recently moved to Switzerland, meaning his county now has a significant reduction in their tax (local taxes levied on income & nett wealth), to the tune of several millions.
    Good one, eh? That told him! Aren’t socialists a) wonderful and b) clever…

        1. Why he did it is unknown. That he pleaded guilty is a start. However, it implies he doesn’t care. Needing an interpreter is just insulting. Anyone coming here must be able to speak English.

  47. Goodnight and God bless, Gentlefolks.

    Let’s all start boning up on Common (Constitutional) Law and here’s a good place to start:

    richardvobes.com

    Go to ‘Resources’

    1. A really good web site, thank you. I have taken a little look and saved it for a more-in-depth look tomorrow. Lots of stuff there.

      1. Good to know, Mum, one thing that has been said that we should use soshul meeja to raise awareness elsewhere about the realities of Common (Constitutional) Law that is no longer taught in schools.

      1. I had trouble a few days ago and Disqus came up with this old Id, Mum, so I’ve stuck with it. The comments are still in the old NoToNanny genre.

  48. To add further NHS insults to known injuries. I had to message from my GP practice earlier this evening. Telling me that I should book up for a Covid 19 spring booster in the form of a Sanofi ‘vaccine’. What are they really up to this time ? Don’t they realise I’m still waiting for the damage from the first two ‘Vaccines’ to be repaired.
    Not an easy decision to make really…..(sarc)
    And it’s good night from me folks.

    1. “Get your Spring booster now!” They make it sound like an irresistible offer. Don’t they realise the population is at last cottoning on to them?

  49. The King does not rule out making slave trade reparations
    Buckingham Palace says His Majesty takes the issue ‘profoundly seriously’ and feels ‘personal sorrow at the suffering of so many’

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/04/06/king-charles-backs-project-uncover-royal-slave-trade-links/

    Can even the new King’s most ardent supporters continue to support him now?

    The man is completely insane – unless of course he wants to abolish the monarchy as quickly as he can.

    I wish he would abdicate NOW and save us all the cost and the embarrassment of the coronation.

    1. It is a very unwise decision, given that Charles II gave permission for the slave trade to re-start, so he is effectively responsible for all of Britain’s involvement from the late 17th century onwards.
      Charles is not descended from Charles II of course – in fact he is really only distantly related to him, but the fact that it’s the royal family will be enough for the greedy campaigners.

      Uh-oh – I just looked up Charles II’s descendants out of curiosity, and of course, Diana was one of them – which puts the woke Prince of Wales right in the firing line…as well as half the aristocracy as far as I can make out.
      A very bad can of worms to open, which will de-stabilise Britain for as long as it runs. Personally I will be happy if they refrain from enslaving us now, and forget reparations from the past.

    1. Our sanctuary was stripped tonight, too. We had the washing of feet during the Eucharist. There will be a Watch, but I’m not taking part because I couldn’t leave the dogs for too long.

    1. I understand the anger but damaging a building is simply idiotic. All it does is hike prices for the people saving with them. It means my fees – for my tiny savings account gets hit for their ego.

    1. Dean Smith, you and I both know they’ll get away with whatever scott free. They always do. The state closes ranks because to do otherwise would bring the entire midden of corruption, fraud and theft crashing down.

      1. 373086+ up ticks,

        Morning W,
        You know as I know we are receiving what we deserved when regarding the past pedigree of these political rodents
        and once again supporting them ALL on the strength of a phony party name.

    2. Parents need to refuse it. The strongest and most intelligent will. Sad but true.
      As for the government, they are just another hazard in life that must be avoided.

  50. Good night, chums. I hope you all have an enjoyable long Easter weekend. I shall be here from time to time over the next few days.

  51. Just gone 04:00 in the morning and, as usual, I’m still awake.

    Going for a cup (mug) of tea.

        1. That much tea, you’ll be winning the pee-making stakes, Tom!
          Morning, BTW.

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