Friday 9 June: The country needs a more sensible strategy for achieving net zero

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474 thoughts on “Friday 9 June: The country needs a more sensible strategy for achieving net zero”

    2. I hear it’s your birthday and only a couple of dozen to your century. Keep on batting, many happy returns.

      1. Thank You A . Well er ……….No I have hot weather caps and cold weather caps and lots more for inbetween.

    6. Happy Birthday, Johnny!
      Hope you have a great day! And another 364 great unbirthdays!

      2. I’m sure you meant another 365, Herr Oberst. Next year is a leap year. Lol.

  4. Like Moths To A Flame

    In the back woods of West Virginia, the redneck’s wife went into labour in the middle of the night, and the doctor was called to assist in the delivery.

    Since there was no electricity, the doctor handed the father-to-be a lantern and said, “Here, you hold this high so I can see what I’m doing.”

    Soon, a baby boy was brought into the world. “Whoa there,” said the doctor. “Don’t put the lantern down… I think there’s another one to come!”

    Sure enough, within minutes he had delivered a baby girl. And once again, he implored the father,

    “Don’t put down that lantern… It seems there’s yet another one in there!” cried the doctor.

    The Redneck scratched his head in bewilderment, and asked the doctor, “Do ya thank it’s the light that’s attractin’ ‘em? “

  5. Good morning, chums. Fourth today. Happy birthday to Johnny Norfolk who was first today.

      2. You are quite right, Sir Jasper and I have amended my post accordingly. But when I first posted, I was second. It was adding birthday wishes to Johnny that enabled you and ogga1 to jump in before I pressed the Post button.

          1. Not in some kind of competitions where placings matter (to some)

            I would gallantly come to thine aid where you to call upon me, pretty maid.,

      1. Cloudy chilly mornings, warm sunny afternoons, chilly evenings is the norm here at the moment

  7. ogga1
    a few seconds ago

    373139+ up ticks,

    Letters: The country needs a more sensible
    strategy.

    reality,

    The country needs a more sensible strategy going into the future.

    Achieving net zero at this moment in time is a cover for multiple scams that in accumulation are only beneficial to the manipulating
    incarcerating big daddy scam,RESET.

  9. The country needs a more sensible strategy for achieving net zero

    It would be easier to formulate a sensible strategy for turning base metals into gold

        1. Hang on, Grizzly, I was in bed catching up on Zeds then lots of things to do today. But here I am at 8.5 pm and my upvote has increased the score to seven.

          1. Catching up on Zeds? I remember when ‘Zed’ was a valued contributor to this (and the former)) forum. ‘Zed’ = Zaharadelasierra.

    2. While many details of the Volvo study have been thoroughly debunked, the more important issue is that the emissions from producing batteries, while significant, are quickly outweighed by the CO2 emissions from fuelling petrol and diesel cars.
      I notice there’s no mention of emissions caused by generating the electricity.
      All assuming CO2 is important, of course. Big assumption.

        1. Sorry have spent last two hours when I should have been working watching Geoff buys Cars vids…

    4. Perhaps these ‘fact checkers’ need o be called ‘propagandists’. That is what they are, after all.

      Akinson presented an opinion. Not a series of facts. He gave his advice on the economic reality and who the audiences were. That the Left don’t like this is self evident. They have never liked people to disagree with them.

    5. I think that particular Simon Evans holds a PhD in biochemistry from the University of Bristol and previously studied chemistry at the University of Oxford. Most of his article is still bollocks though! Great video debunking Evans below!!

  11. Tucker Carlson is back, and he’s brought the aliens with him. 9 June 2023.

    What did these 100 million viewers perceive through the dim lighting? That Ukraine might well have blown up the Kakhovka dam and Zelensky is a “persecutor of Christians”. Both are matters of creative interpretation. Zelensky, though not a secularist zealot, has taken actions against members of the Moscow-affiliated Ukrainian Orthodox Church; as for the dam, well, we once swallowed the line that Russia blew up the Nord Stream pipeline but it’s now widely accepted that the Ukrainians did it after all. Recent evidence suggests the Europeans and the CIA knew about the plan three months in advance.

    After reading this malignant tosh you can understand why Carlson got 100 million views!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/08/tucker-carlson-aliens-killed-jfk/

    1. The mainstream press doesn’t really know how to deal with ‘new media’ – although given Youtube’s age it’s hardly new. Thus they resort to rubbishing the messenger. As it is, the Telegraph gets about 750,000 readers a day (that was 2020). Carlson got 100 million.

      1. I suspect that Tucker Carlson’s very public sacking and reinstatement as an independent pay just be their way of dealing with it….

    1. Fractional percentage growth, with crippling inflation and sky high prices is nothing to crow about. We’re heading for recession, it ‘s when, not if.

      Of course, it could all so easily be avoided but the state refuses that.

      1. Bear in mind that the EU has already gone into in recession, so why shouldn’t we do the same?

  13. Good morning all!
    A bit brighter today with scattered cloud but still a cool 8°C outside.

  14. A Letter:-

    SIR – My friend recently sold her house and, as required, paid for the EPC. Not one prospective buyer asked to see it.

    Is the EPC simply a job-creation scheme by another name?

    Carol A Forshaw
    Bolton, Lancashire

    And the answer is Yes.

      2. Those were the things i was trying to remember yesterday. They were brought in c. Feb 2010 as we had to have one when we tried to sell out house. Then the GE was announced and the market collapsed. When the Coalition Govt took over c May 2010 they cancelled the HIP. I remember being cross at the waste of money but i do remember lots of people paid to train to be HIP assessors.

      3. They were a bit shaky and so underwent hip replacement.

        I’ll get me zimmer frame.

        1. I’m going for a hip replacement next week.

          I’m ripping out all the old rose bushes.

    2. Yes, it is a scam. An annoying, expensive and frustrating one. Property grade D, likely grade B. Well, no, it isn’t. You can’t put solar panels on the roof because it’s the wrong sort of tile. You can’t insulate the walls as they’re a foot thick and there’s no cavity. No, a heat pump isn’t practical.

      Shove off. And can I have my £70 back.

  16. Friday 9th June, 2023

    Horace Pendleton

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    Congratulations on achieving 76 years of age today and very many happy returns.

    Very best wishes,

    Caroline and Rastus

    https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tVP1zc0TCozLbeIz0kyYPSSNzdTKCnKz03Kz0stVshJTVEoyUhVSMpMVyhILEpMSQUAbNIPvQ&q=76+trombones+led+the+big+parade&oq=76+trombones&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0i512j46i512l3j0i512l5.8263j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:4d5494c9,vid:eBQWsBiM5YY

    1. Another one.
      Obviously tinned snoek wasn’t all bad.
      When did telly resume after the war?

    6. Ayup, Horace; wheer a’ tha’?

      Come an’ join t’party again, lad! 🎂

  17. I’m shocked.shocked I tell you !!

    “More than 40,000 asylum seekers were given more rights despite arriving on

    small boats as ministers try to slash the backlog of cases.

    Officials will now treat them the same as those who arrived through safe and legal routes.

    A senior source branded it a “de facto amnesty as a means of processing more cases”

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/40k-asylum-seekers-who-crossed-channel-given-de-facto-amnesty/ar-AA1ciy6U?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=20f7496de1ef4668a4cb19e0b892d4ba&ei=11
    Bah we all saw this coming didn’t we…………..

    1. This is deliberate – the purpose is to destroy Britain’s history, civilisation and culture and replace it with barbarism.

      Enoch Powell was only right up to a point. He said we must be mad to import alien cultures into Britain in large numbers but the politicians may be evil but they are not mad in an irrational sense: they doing what they are doing with malign intent.

      1. The gimmigrants vote how the state wants. They vote for more EU – because it gives them things. They vote for more welfare (ditto), they don’t care about criminality because they’re the cause, which means more calls for policemen, which really means an ever expanding home office for money that never gets to the front line. They use the NHS, same outcome. As they’re illiterate, innumerate and primitive they don’t care about the quality of education, either.

        The state wins, with a lovely useless client class. It is only the working locals who suffer – and the state wants us gone because we want nothing from big government.

    2. Something else our stupid and collectivly useless politicians are making a complete mess of. None of this would have to happen at all. If they had any common sense.
      Now these invaders are better off than people who have worked for 50 years or more and are receiving the basic UK pension.
      And of course this sort of idiotic arrangement will never effect the hierarchy. They go out of thier way to make sure of that.

    3. It was inevitable. They had no intention of removing the scum. The entire point was to destabilise the nation.

  18. Friday 9th June, 2023

    Johnny Norfolk

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    Congratulations on achieving 76 years of age today and very many happy returns.

    Very best wishes,

    Caroline and Rastus

    https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tVP1zc0TCozLbeIz0kyYPSSNzdTKCnKz03Kz0stVshJTVEoyUhVSMpMVyhILEpMSQUAbNIPvQ&q=76+trombones+led+the+big+parade&oq=76+trombones&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0i512j46i512l3j0i512l5.8263j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:4d5494c9,vid:eBQWsBiM5YY

    5. Grattis på födelsedagen, John. Hope you’re celebrating with a decent pint-or-three of Harvey’s best. The best of the best.👍🏻

  19. 373139+ up ticks,

    O do behave it was far worse between 39 / 45.

    Nervous flyers face ‘stuff of nightmares’ with severe turbulence on the rise
    Researchers say bumpy flights will ‘get much worse’ as warming air currents create more extreme ‘wind shear’ in the skies

    Could it possibly be rising wind from them there cows ?

    2. Who are these morons who come up with all this continous mind bending crap ?
      What have researched to invent this nonsense ?

    4. I’m currently reading “Lancaster” by John Nichol. A bit of turbulence was the least of their worries.

    1. The vacuous insipid reality of morning television.
      That sums it all up perfectly.

  22. Morning all 🙂😉
    Brighter but that’s all.
    The day this country has a more sensible strategy for anything at all, will never happen.

      1. That shows a touching faith that the EU would have anything remotely resembling sensible strategies (we’d have no say over anything).

  23. Zelensky will be murdered by his military command. Doctorow. 8 June 2023.

    My logic in saying this is that the current rate of loss of men and materiel in the ongoing Ukrainian “counter-offensive” is unsustainable and is bleeding their armed forces white.

    Two days ago Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu reported to the nation on the results of the first three days of that counter-offensive: 3,615 Ukrainian soldiers were dead and large quantities of tanks, including the newly arrived German Leopards, aircraft, helicopters, armored personnel carriers were destroyed. The Russians lost a total of 72 dead and 130 wounded. That juxtaposition of losses tells us that for the Russian side this was like shooting herrings in a barrel.

    Yesterday, Russian armed forces spokesman General Konashenkov announced that the results of the latest day of battle were another 750 dead Ukrainians.

    Who knows?

    https://gilbertdoctorow.com/

    1. If they are correct, these numbers are scary.
      Saw a YT video yesterday of the first Leopard 2 to be shot burning up, so they are being lost. With that number of casualties, anyone who is an effective soldier in the field will soon be lost, leading to further casualties as a result of inexperience. Not a good place to be in.
      I recall exactly this was one scenario feared by the UK Army if having to fight the Russians – that, very quickly, most experienced soldiers would be lost in battle, the instructors would be pulled in from the training camps as emergency replacements, and then there would be no training for further replacements.

      1. I was under the impression that BAOR and RAFG were a military sleeping policeman which would delay the Soviet attack just long enough for the US to launch their ‘tactical’ nukes.

        Four days of every month, during 1983-1985, we were on exercise. With a few Tacevals thrown in for good measure. Our task appeared to be a cross between ‘Zulu’ and ‘The Alamo’, leaning heavily towards The Alamo.

        On the brightside, I had three fantastic years at RAF Laarbruch.

        1. I was in RAFG in the 60s at Geilenkirchen and on QRA during the Cuban Crisis (the only time we knew there’d be no exercises/Tacevals called – if the hooter went, it was for real)

        2. Yep, my recall too. The River Weser was the nuclear trip-wire. Our job was simply to delay that as long as possible.

        1. However I’m sure that no one in a modern war would be so unsporting as to disguise their tanks….would they?

        2. Interesting that the Ukrainians are driving combine harvesters around at this time of year.

          Any farmers care to describe what is being harvested now?

          2. Pass, possibly Winter wheat or Spring silage, which is being/has been harvested here.

    2. When I worked for the MoD, as we compiled statistics for some oaf to ignore you’d read numbers and the units would change – injured, wounded, dead. The columns would blur together until a high up said ‘Oh, only 900 in the seriously wounded’.

      They had completely lost any concept that these were people. People losing a limb, an organ. The disconnect of the MoD from the serving military was absolute.

    3. It is being reported as exploratory raids to discover any weaknesses in the Russian line, rather than a full-on counter-offensive. More Dieppe than Normandy.

      My guess is that the Russians are well dug in, and with the destruction of the last bridgehead over the Dnieper, albeit at huge cost both to civilians living in Russian controlled regions, and to the food security of key allies such as Egypt and Iran, any counter-offensive now would be extremely tricky. The only way I suspect Zelenskyy could pull it off is to call in support from abroad, concerned about undoing 70 years of UN endeavour and restoring a “Might is Right” approach to Realpolitik that devastated Europe twice in the last century.

      Attrition however might decide things in the end. Russia is systematically bombing Ukraine back to the stone age, so that they have nothing left to give their own traumatised people, let alone to repay their allies in the West. Ukraine is banking on a breakdown of moral amid the Russian military, unhappy about neostalinist tendencies in the Kremlin, and aware that any second front (say from China, Japan or any number of the Muslim -stans to the south) would threaten Russia’s existence as it splits into warlord factions and falls apart.

      War is madness.

      1. Colonel Douglas McGregor thinks Ivan will have won by the Autumn. I trust his judgement.

        1. Unless this sort of idiocy occurs, at which point we might all lose.

          NATO countries led by Poland may be willing to put troops on the ground in Ukraine – potentially dragging the alliance into war with Russia – former secretary general warns
          Anders Rasmussen held the post of NATO secretary general between 2009-2014
          He warned Poland may try to lead a coalition of NATO countries to deploy troops
          Comes as US President Joe Biden hosts Rishi Sunak in Washington for talks

          https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12172673/NATO-countries-willing-troops-ground-Ukraine-former-secretary-general-says.html

          1. Just in case you think that Poland isn’t serious in wanting to start a major war in central Europe, just

            look at its latest purchase:-

            After Winning A Whopping 1000 Tank Order From Poland, K2 ‘Black Panther’ To Enter Mass Production For ROK Army (eurasiantimes.com)

          2. Europe and the US no longer have the forces to fight a major war. Not even the troops and equipment levels we deployed in Iraq. This mess may put an end to NATO and that may not be a bad thing?

      2. “Ukraine is banking on a breakdown of moral amid the Russian military”

        I’m seeing a ‘moral breakdown’ in much of the world’s population.

  24. The idea that the family home is fair game for tax is a dangerous fallacy
    The Tories have betrayed the middle class for too long – it’s time to fight back
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tax/inheritance/tories-family-home-cash-cow/

    BTL

    Rishi Sunak is beginning to attract the same contempt, revulsion and hatred as Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair did in their day. The difference being that he is attracting contempt, revulsion and hatred from his own erstwhile political supporters as well as from everyone else.

    1. The opening paragraph is offensive ‘right to take a share of unearned wealth’ – what is unearned? Do we not maintain it? Are we not paying for the value? Do we not repair the thing when there’s a problem? Which part of owning a home, and the continual work is unearned? Oh, are they referring to the rise inn prices due to massive, uncontrolled immigration? To inflation? Ah, I see they are. Well, that’s the fault of government who could cut taxes and close the border, but no. They keep making life harder.

      1. There is no unearned wealth tied up in 99% of houses. There is only a headline price that reflects a devaluing currency.

        Inflation, as we are experiencing it, is an illusion. Our currency is worth less and less, that is why prices appear to rise.

        1. Yep, spot on – although there are factors that would reduce the real terms price of things – the state getting out of the energy market so it’s not rigged for a start. Lower taxes on business – which are passed on to the customer. Fuel taxes for logistics.

          Simple stuff, but because big government can blame someone else for those things rather than admit it is guilty it keeps hiking them.

  26. Medley Time

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    See Westminster for more details

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    1. Too many home truths amongst those.
      The problem with Thomas Paine had, was his common sense amongst the political classes never really caught on.

      2. What Paine actually wrote was: “A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.” Not quite so snappy, is it? However, did follow it up with: “All forms of government are pernicious, including good government.”

  27. Dalrymple
    https://www.takimag.com/article/a-capital-offense/

    Last week I reviewed a book published by an American academic press—it hardly matters the title or author, for in the respect to which I wish to draw your attention they are almost all the same these days. With few exceptions, they capitalize the word black when it refers to a person, while keeping white (or brown) in the lower case.

    1. It is a rule if thumb that any book, article or post where the word “black” is capitalised, should not be read. Ditto any of the above or podcasts or other broadcast media where they refer to Saint George as being “murdered” (sic) should not be viewed.

  29. One law for the Bidens and Clintons and other senior Democrats, another for Trump.

    Trump faces 100 YEARS behind bars if he’s convicted of federal charges – including espionage – over classified documents, as sources claim outraged ex-president was blindsided by indictment
    Donald Trump on Thursday announced that he was being indicted for his handling of classified documents
    The charges have not been made public, but Trump’s lawyer Jim Trusty told CNN that there were seven charges which ‘break out from an Espionage Act charge’
    ABC News reported that, if convicted of all seven, he could face up to 100 years behind bars: Trump has insisted he is innocent and called it a persecution

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12176615/Trump-faces-100-YEARS-bars-convicted-historic-federal-charges-including-espionage.html

    America is going to deserve the corrupt, criminal and black dystopia that is coming its way.

  30. Good morning all,

    SWMBO and I have quit McPhee Towers for a week by the sea in sunny South Devon – lovely morning here, fresh air and 22C today. Also having to type this on an iPad as I sit in the hotel lounge awaiting SWMBO’s arrival for breakfast.

    Caught this in the Gatesograph Climate Scare pages this morning.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/08/severe-turbulence-nervous-flyers-wind-airlines-flights/

    As a retired professional pilot of 44 years experience, I call Bovine Ordure. But then all climate scares are bovine ordure.

    2. Ahh yes, that scary jet stream, something that few people understand so an ideal phenomenon to blame all sorts of events.

  31. Off to see Nurse (for, I hope) the last time. It is milder today. I see the Wet Office have warned that later today and tomorrow, we may all be boiled alive by normal summer temperatures….

    2. Good luck.
      It’s been rather a sago. Let’s hope they’ve not made an Eton mess of it.

    1. Washington judge orders female-only spa with compulsory nudity to admit transgender women with penises, after owner said facility was for ‘biological women only’ and pre-op trans activist complained
      Trans woman Haven Wilvich had complained to a state commission board after being denied membership of a female only spa Olympus Spa
      The board ordered the Korean run spa to change their policy on gender after finding them to have discriminated against Wilvich
      Now, a judge has upheld the ruling made by the board after the Spa attempted to sue them

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12176407/Washington-womens-spa-compulsory-nudity-ordered-judge-start-admitting-trans-women.html

      https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/06/09/05/71941483-12176407-Wilvich_had_previously_boasted_about_the_success_of_her_complain-a-51_1686284655484.jpg

      1. Women should boycott the place. Tough on the owner but it denies the dicks!

        Morning sos and all.

  34. Re the headline; the country NEEDS to scrap the net zero nonsense and accept that CO2 is beneficial for plants, and that man-made climate change is so small as to be irrelevant!
    Only that way would we have a chance at prosperity in the next economic cycle.
    As it is, we’re heading into a mini ice age over the next twenty years or so, with these tyrants cutting off our food and fuel.

    1. We all know that climate change is a great scam. Even the greeniacs, the maniacs, the womaniacs and the transiacs know it.

    2. I emailed as much to our parish clerk in response to an email from some “Dr” advocating the council support the passage of some net zero legislation through Parliament. That’s me cancelled, no doubt!

  36. 373139+ up ticks,

    Another option for those seeking change.

    People power as shown victorious via a fringe party, the genuine UKIP, leading the nation OUT of the eu cartell,

    There is no earthly reason on this, Gods green planet, this cannot be repeated

    https://youtu.be/3lLEaLr9Ilo

    1. I note the BTL comment on YT that the smaller parties should unite. I have changed my mind on this. They should absolutely not unite. Reclaim needs to avoid Reform like the clap.
      They are managed opposition and would subvert and distract and obfuscate.
      I wish Fox and Bridgen well and I wish I could participate.

      1. 373139+ up ticks,

        Morning Lim,
        My sentiments exactly it would be as shuffling the old odious deck with a few new members as cover, all “controlled”

    2. I am far from convinced that Laurence Fox would make a satisfactory PM – but nor would the Reform Party under Richard Tice which cannot be trusted on Covid, illegal and ‘legal’ immigration or the Net Zero green agenda.

      Unless the whole contingent of conservative MPs in the Conservative Party stand down or resign the whip before the summer recess and then spend the recess from 22nd July – 4th September getting themselves organised into the Real Conservative Party then the Conservative Party and Britain will be lost for ever.

      1. 373139+ up ticks,

        Morning R,
        I have yet to hear him say he wants to be PM.
        He wants to lead a party of honest opposition.
        Many said the same of Gerard Batten /real UKIP, farage the loudest Batten not good standing within the party, the
        man asked the members for £100000 to save the party & received in reply £300000 putting the party in the black,
        within months 13000 plus new members,going up daily
        etc,etc.
        Old tory talk “not of good standing” “far right” Lawrence
        Fox must expect the same treatment.
        There was many a brown trouser issue among the lab/lib/con/ coalition party inclusive of farage when Batten was in leadership.

      2. I can’t help but agree, Richard. Who the flyin’ f are we going to vote for at the upcoming GE.

        There will be a plethora of NOTA, I’m guessing but it will be ignored.

  37. Nurse signed me off. The whole affair has lasted 5 weeks. She has given us dressings and cream to salve the skin damage caused by endless plasters. She has been exactly what an old-fashioned nurse. Thorough; thoughtful; gentle and encouraging. I wanted to show our appreciation. The poor girl is very overweight – so chocs or wine would not have been appropriate. We went out at 7.30 and cut a large bunch of roses. Nurse was quite overwhelmed. I have never seen a woman blush red in an instant!

    So now we prepare for our forthcoming trip to wet France. It had all been rather in the balance – what with my wound and then sinusitis. Fingers crossed.

  38. The BBC is in full end-of-the-world mode once again as a couple of warm days approach.

    El Niño planet-warming weather phase has begun

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a66fc2e2e8a4995386ed3bb612fb1254877d7c0b19ece63a0b0bee147216712b.jpg
    US scientists confirmed that El Niño had started. Experts say it will likely make 2024 the world’s hottest year.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65839060

    Hottest? Given that weather records go back less than 200 years, this is utter bunk. You might expect better from the Met Office but what do you find? This:

    Global records go back about 160 years, giving a long period from which to draw conclusions about how our climate is changing.

    https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/climate/science/global-temperature-records

    So there it is. The Earth is about 160 years old.

    2. On 3rd(OSP): according to Pepys: “a most furious storm”, with houses blown down in London. 6
      Summer 1666 27th June(OS): heat wave began: mostly dry in London since the 12th(OS).
      On 5th July, 1666(OS), Pepys writes: “extremely hot … oranges ripening in the open at Hackney”.
      July 6th(OS): Beginning of period with occasional showers/heavy rains though often warm. July 26th(OS): Hail ‘ as big as walnuts ‘ in London and 27th(OS) on Suffolk coast.
      The climatological summer (June, July & August) of 1666 was amongst the top 10 or so of warm summers in the CET series (began 1659).
      This period is right at the start of Gordon Manley’s Central England Temperature (CET) series, and the data are only reproduced to the nearest whole degC. However, in that series, July 1666 had a value of 18degC, and August 17degC. Relating these to the ‘whole-series’ mean, this implies a rough anomaly for this ‘High Summer’ period of ~+2C, the heat, added to the extended dry weather (see above) aiding the heightened risk of fire in populated areas. https://premium.weatherweb.net/weather-in-history-1650-to-1699-ad/

      1. Genuinely curious as to how they would have recorded temperatures in 1666 (presumably not in degrees C)

        1. Extrapolated from core samples i expect. Tree rings also show temperature variations.

        2. Indeed. The mercury thermometer was invented in 1714.

          Here’s one article picked at random: /www.brannan.co.uk/who-invented-the-thermometer

      2. What does (OS) and (OSP) mean? Oh stupid Person?

        Just asking, Maggie, as I loathe abbreviations and acronyms, which appear throughout the narrative without explanation.

        1. I think OS is “old style” presumably referring to the Julian/ Gregorian calendars but I don’t know what OSP is.

    3. Not sure how El Nino, which is a known weather phenomenon, is suddenly “climate change” but anything to divert the masses I suppose

  39. The BBC is in full end-of-the-world mode once again as a couple of warm days approach.

    El Niño planet-warming weather phase has begun

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a66fc2e2e8a4995386ed3bb612fb1254877d7c0b19ece63a0b0bee147216712b.jpg
    US scientists confirmed that El Niño had started. Experts say it will likely make 2024 the world’s hottest year.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65839060

    Hottest? Given that weather records go back less than 200 years, this is utter bunk. You might expect better from the Met Office but what do you find? This:

    Global records go back about 160 years, giving a long period from which to draw conclusions about how our climate is changing.

    https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/climate/science/global-temperature-records

    So there it is. The Earth is about 160 years old.

  40. Landowner fined £15,000 after his cows launched ‘frenzied attack’ on dog walkers

    The court heard Michael Booley, Joanne Booley and Josian Gauld were walking three dogs through a field on the estate on a public path not fully bounded by electric fencing on June 5, 2021.

    The herd then gave chase, trampling Mrs Booley after throwing her into the air before being fought off with a rucksack by Mrs Gauld.

    I remember many years ago going to Derbyshire to walk the area around Chatsworth. I got on the footpath up from Rowsley that leads to the Estate and passed through a herd of young bullocks and thought no more of it until I reached a style. As I was climbing over I looked back and the herd had followed me. It was a little unnerving as they all stood there watching me. Anyway I got down and continued on the path until I looked around and they had diverged and entered the same field through holes in the stone wall. Worse they were being joined by the ones already in this paddock. I speeded up to get to the next style and so did they. I ended up sprinting the last thirty yards. By the time I reached it there must have been over a hundred of them. It was all distinctly creepy.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/08/landowner-fined-cow-attack-dogwalkers/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr

    1. The right to roam on ag land especially people with their dogs is an accident waiting to happen .

      If I were a land owner , I would be furious if people ventured onto my land whilst my livestock were grazing , electric fences or not .

      1. The verdict gives dog walkers carte blanche. Another nail in farming’s coffin.

        2. …and another nail in the dead but won’t lie down, Conservative coffin of miss-Govt

      3. The right to roam anywhere is in Scotland, there is no law of trespass , only the law of nuisance. You roam at your own risk and dogs are liable to be shot if harassing animals

  41. https://twitter.com/boblister_poole/status/1667091117072953344

    Up to 54,000 migrants who entered the UK illegally are to get new rights to live in Britain after Rishi Sunak ditched a key plank of Priti Patel’s flagship immigration law. Sunak Has To Go!

    Rishi Sunak
    The announcement comes despite the Prime Minister’s pledge to crack down on illegal migration CREDIT: Getty Images Europe
    Up to 54,000 migrants who entered the UK illegally are to get new rights to live in Britain after Rishi Sunak ditched a key plank of Priti Patel’s flagship immigration law.

    The move, announced by Immigration Minister Robert Jenrick, is part of an attempt to slash the backlog of 137,600 asylum applications and cut the £6 million-a-day bill for housing them in hotels.

    They will be allowed to remain in the UK for five years, instead of 30 months, if their asylum claims are successful. They will then be able to apply to settle in the UK

    It means they will have the same five-year rights as those who came to Britain through legal and safe routes despite the Prime Minister’s pledge to crack down on illegal migration.

    The move abandons the two-tier, differentiation system introduced by Boris Johnson and his then home secretary, Ms Patel, which was designed to deter illegal migrants from crossing the Channel.

    Their Nationality and Borders Act stipulated that any migrant arriving illegally from a safe country like France could only be able to claim temporary permission to remain for 30 months and would have to wait 10 years before seeking the right to settle.

    1. If this doesn’t finish off the Conservative Party for ever then what will?

      Has Sunak already got a new contract for himself in the USA with Goldman Sachs sorted out?

    2. How about the backlog of NHS patients awaiting appointments for Cancer, Heart disease etc., Or is this just part of Govt strategy to kill off the oldies and bring in replacements by the thousands.

  42. Tiger shark kills swimmer in front of horrified beachgoers. 9 june 2023.

    A Russian man was killed on Thursday when a shark attacked him off the coast of Egypt’s Red Sea resort city of Hurghada, authorities said.

    “An attack by a tiger shark on a beachgoer… led to his death,” Egypt’s environment ministry posted on Facebook, without providing further details.

    Russian media said the victim was a Russian national in his twenties, and video circulated on social media appearing to show the incident.

    One is only surprised they didn’t claim that the shark was a Ukie sympathiser!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/06/09/tiger-shark-kills-russian-swimmer-egypt-red-sea-hurghada/

    2. The sea belongs to ace predators .

      The Red sea is full of sharks , I have seen them .

      Why on earth did they kill the poor thing .

      1. Morning Belle. I’m surprised that anyone would swim in the Red Sea. It is a notoriously famous a la carte shark restaurant!

    3. Billy Connolly said, “No one has ever been attacked by a shark in Woolworth’s.”

      “Sharks don’t invade your world, so don’t expect them to be too happy if you invade theirs!”

      1. His brother – who was asleep – realised that we were about to have lunch – and joined us …. on the off chance

    2. That’s one contented creature who rests without fear of pedators and knowing very well where his next meal is coming from. The Call Of The Wild can go and get stuffed!

      1. It’s still called a box in the UK. It’s the Yanks who call it a ‘cup’.

        They also insist on calling ice hockey ‘hockey’, and calling hockey ‘field hockey’.

        1. The Yanks have no idea of etymology or the correct usage of English – It’s not only bowdlerisation but is truly bastardisation.

      3. SCHOOL HORROR Blundell’s School: Boy, 16, ‘bludgeoned 2 sleeping pupils with hammer at £41k boarding house then attacked housemaster’
        Paul SimsBen Kelly
        Published: 18:47, 9 Jun 2023Updated: 18:59, 9 Jun 2023

        A teen is said to have bludgeoned two boarders.

        A housemaster was also said to be injured.

        A teen was arrested by cops on suspicion of GBH with intent and is continuing to be quizzed today.

        The three alleged victims were rushed to hospital in the wake of the 1am incident yesterday as cops swarmed the school.

        https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/22638547/blundells-school-sleeping-pupils-housemaster-bludgeoned-hammer-attack/

  45. A study looking at water pollution on the south coast of England has revealed high levels of potentially harmful chemicals including recreational drugs and antidepressants.

    Scientists involved in the research say marine life is being harmed by human drugs, pointing to evidence that oestrogen in water can feminise male fish through biological changes.

    Bianca Carr, the co-founder of the Clean Harbour Partnership (CHP) that coordinated the work, said: “We need to go beyond talking about poo in the water – now we are looking at what’s in that human waste? Now we know the chemicals that are in it, the next step will be to look across the UK at what cocaine and other human drugs are doing to our water, to our food chain.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jun/09/high-levels-drugs-water-pollution-study-england-south-coast

    2. Smelly seaweed row erupts as council refuses to remove kelp for eco reasons
      Beachgoers told to ’embrace the raw beauty of nature’ as they wade through ‘rotting mat’ to reach the sea

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/09/weymouth-council-seaweed-refuses-remove-kelp-eco-reasons/

      Good afternoon Lovely Verity. Here’s a beach near you! (Weymouth)

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8ceb0a53cd8bf32f0fd94bccf9f69a2531b6788aabe3acbd6395904decf2d06a.jpg

        1. Charming Children that Generation whatever are raising.

          I always blame the parents for a complete lack of discipline in their children’s (and their own) upbringing,

  48. I found this very interesting. Well worth listening to.
    James Delingpole Podcast
    Lee Gaulman – Legalman – is a successful practising US attorney who has long since lost his faith in the US legal system. He talks to James about the true history of the US Civil War, why he can’t stand ‘Constitutional Conservatives’, why the Constitution doesn’t work and never did, about chemtrails, and about how to use the jury system to fight back. His podcast, The Quash tells people the heard truth about the legal system.
    https://delingpole.podbean.com/e/lee-gaulman-legalman/

    1. Haven’t heard this one yet, but thank you for the recommendation – I shall definitely hear it this weekend.
      Delingpole does find the most interesting people for his shows! Leaves the BBC with its chronic lack of cognitive diversity in the dust.

  49. I found this very interesting. Well worth listening to.
    James Delingpole Podcast
    Lee Gaulman – Legalman – is a successful practising US attorney who has long since lost his faith in the US legal system. He talks to James about the true history of the US Civil War, why he can’t stand ‘Constitutional Conservatives’, why the Constitution doesn’t work and never did, about chemtrails, and about how to use the jury system to fight back. His podcast, The Quash tells people the heard truth about the legal system.
    https://delingpole.podbean.com/e/lee-gaulman-legalman/

  51. Image of non-white Jesus as a child refugee fleeing Egypt in a dingy will replace Edward Colston stained glass window.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ddad7bf9621d3c2b31895a13f8bd0a70baf1dbb365e577839af9f9fd37795d30.png

    Church leaders agreed that new windows showing Jesus depicted ‘in multiple ethnicities’ could now be installed at St Mary Redcliffe in Bristol.

    The decision by the Consistory Court of The Diocese of Bristol came three years to the day since the toppling of Colston’s statue in the city on June 7, 2020.

    The Grade I-listed church had removed the Colston panels in 2021. They were replaced with temporary plain panels before the church launched a competition to design new permanent replacement stain glass panels, won by local artist and junior doctor, Earlish (CORR) Swift.

    Church of England?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12173651/Image-Jesus-child-refugee-replace-Edward-Colston-stained-glass-window-Bristol.html

    4. It’s not the non-white Jesus I have an issue with (he was, after all, Semitic and therefore nothing like the European art depictions), but the obvious political message conveyed by the dinghy, i.e. all migrants arriving by dinghy from France are refugees, which is patently not the case.

  52. Two pupils in hospital following attack at top boarding school
    A 16-year-old boy from Tiverton has been arrested
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/09/tiverton-boarding-school-devon-pupils-assaulted-boy-arrest/

    The stabber came from the town and, of course, we know nothing about him.

    When I was at Blundell’s in the 1960s there was a stabbing incident in which one boy was stabbed by another. As they both came from fairly prominent families the whole thing was very much hushed up and the headmaster called the school together to tell us that on no account should we talk to any journalists. The boys were not in the same house as I was but I knew them quite well as they were my age.

    1. Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.

      I have e-mailed this story to my former study-mate at school and he replied saying he remembered the incident clearly. “Interesting to see,” he observed wryly, “that things don’t ever change very much.”

  53. The sun is shining. The sky is blue and cloudless. It is warm. Despite the gale, I am risking shorts and will sit in the garden.

    Tomorrow is packing day – then for three days I have to drive 1,000 miles. So one lazy day is allowed.

  54. Can someone tell me what 50m². is in feet? I have never used metric and I know that if I try to figure it out I will make a mess of it, I always do as the amount of drill bits etc I have given away because I was wrong, wrong, wrong in translating from barbarian to civilized. What does 50m². mean in terms of the size of a room in feet?
    Thanking you in anticipation and all that!

  55. 373139+ up ticks,

    Mentally and physically one way to be employed as building blocks for repress,replace,RESET and tother for the sexual satisfaction of indigenous PIE members & the ever increasing number of paedophiles allowed entry to these Isles via elected political parties, again and again, and again.

    https://twitter.com/DVATW/status/1667107848772263936?s=20

  56. British-made tanks are about to sweep Putin’s conscripts aside. 9 June 2023.

    With Ukrainian canniness, Western intelligence and equipment and a smattering of good fortune, I expect what’s left of the Russian army to be nothing more than a speed bump on the way to liberating Crimea, pushing to the Russian border and chucking Putin’s war criminals out of Ukraine once and for all.

    Much like Adolf Hitler at the end of his war, Putin appears to be holed up in his bunker, being fed lies, making the wrong decisions while the sharks circle. What’s unfolding in Ukraine now could go down in history as one of the great tank actions, alongside Cambrai, Kursk and the Arras counterattack. It will certainly go down as the end of Moscow’s illegal invasion – and perhaps the beginning of the end of Putin.

    The opposite view.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/09/british-made-tanks-about-to-sweep-putins-conscripts-aside/

    1. It’s been pointed out how the Americans spouted the same rabble-rousing propaganda about Vietnam being just about to crumble because it couldn’t possibly withstand the might of the US war machine (and the US war machine really was mighty in the 60s), then withdrew because the machine was useless against the guerilla tactics of the Vietcong. As Mark Steyn loves to point out, the Americans couldn’t even defeat a few Afghan goatherds. Russia? Pah!

    2. One of the best tanks around, Leopard 2, was destroyed recently. Ain’t no good if you don’t know how to use it properly.
      Just saying.

    3. Oh, it’s just Hamish de Feckwit again – how has the once mighty Telegaffe fallen!

  59. Shadow minister Bambos Charalambous suspended from Labour. 9 June 2023.

    One of Keir Starmer’s shadow ministers has had the Labour party whip suspended after a complaint about his conduct.

    Bambos Charalambous, a shadow Foreign Office minister and MP for Enfield Southgate, is under investigation after a complaint was made against him.

    It is understood there was a formal complaint to Labour’s independent complaints process. As a result, Charalambous is administratively suspended from the Labour party, which has the automatic effect of suspending the whip in the House of Commons.

    Another one! There has probably not been a period like this in European History since the rule of Elagabalus in the third century. The peoples representatives are rotten to the core.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jun/09/shadow-minister-bambos-charalambous-suspended-from-labour

    1. One of the Islington Charamboulous, no doubt. Came over with the conqueror (no, not the Norman one).

  60. You should have already heard the headline – but read on:

    Rachel Reeves waters down Labour £28bn green projects pledge

    Speaking to Radio 4’s Today programme, Ms Reeves said the Tories had “crashed the economy”, adding that after prices and interest rates increased “financial stability has to come first”. Factors including the war in Ukraine have seen inflation soar and the Bank of England has increased interest rates, making borrowing more expensive, in an attempt to tame rising prices. Former PM Liz Truss’s mini-budget last year, which included billions of pounds of unfunded tax cuts, also prompted turmoil in the financial markets and led to interest rates rising further.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65853872

    I’m having a WTF?! moment now. No mention of the two big reasons for the financial catastrophe. Millipede, the author of the first chapter of the disaster, was interviewed by R4 telling us that it’s all the fault of Liz Truss – the economy is so broken and for so far ahead that it’s impossible for Labour to save the world from death by boiling.

    Oh, and there’s an amber heat alert for tomorrow. Don’t panic!

    1. I love the way Liz Truss is blamed for the broken economy. She was only in post for 49 days as I recall. What an amazing effect she had! .

        1. Unfortunately, the hindsight knowledge doesn’t appear to stop them effing up bigtime again in the future.

    3. Anything between 25 degrees C and 29 degrees C according to my local rag (there were two articles about it and two different temperatures!).

    2. Isn’t that how we, with Sunhat as chancellor, totally effed up the economy?

  63. Nadine Dorries stands down as MP with immediate effect. 9 June 2023.

    Dorreis tweeted: “I have today informed the chief whip that I am standing down as the MP for Mid Bedfordshire with immediate effect.

    “It has been an honour to serve as the MP for such a wonderful constituency but it is now time for someone younger to take the reins.”

    And yet another one! What’s going on?

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jun/09/nadine-dorries-stands-down-as-mp-with-immediate-effect

    1. More to the point, we don’t need YOUNGER MPs. Young, inexperienced (in life) “career” politicians is what’s got us into this mess.

    3. She hasn’t the guts to join another party and make the points that the Cons(ino), is, in fact, a busted flush with nothing left to gamble with.

    1. Curiously Mark Levin previously announced his support for DeSantis. Despite this I believe more political pundits should sound the alarm bells.

      What is happening in the US with the weaponisation of the alphabet letter agencies against conservatives and Trump in particular is very alarming. No good will come of this.

      1. What worries me is that inevitably if things go south in the USA the rebound effect on us will be disastrous.

  66. Well, it’s good news on my electric bike that was stolen by thieves in broad daylight using an angle-grinder to make two cuts in a “Kryptonite” bike lock from a bike shed that is overlooked by two CCTV cameras. Plod has located the CCTV and will download it in the next four weeks
    I am confident their speedy pursuit of the criminals will yield dividends.

    1. With luck the little scroats will write themselves off like another one did today. Strange that the police feel the need to report themselves to their standards body just for doing their job of chasing suspects. Perhaps its why they dont chase criminals any more.

  68. Secret recording ‘proves dam explosion was Russian sabotage gone wrong’. 9 June 2023.

    Intercepted call reveals conversation between alleged soldiers and proves Russia blew up dam.

    Ukraine has released an audio recording of what it says is a conversation between two Russian soldiers that proves Russia blew up the dam.

    In it, one of the alleged soldiers said: “They [Ukrainian artillery] didn’t blow it up. Our sabotage group was there. They wanted to scare people with this dam. It didn’t go according to plan.”

    The authenticity of the recording could not be verified although it adds evidence to Ukrainian accusations that Russian soldiers blew up the dam three days ago to slow down its counter-offensive.

    Lol! They don’t have one of the Russian divers who blew up the Baltic Pipeline as well by any chance?

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/06/09/kakhovka-dam-explosion-russian-sabotage-gone-wrong/

    1. This unbelievable story has less credence than some of Tom’s jokes, so I find it staggering that the DT BTL comments suggest that most of the readers accept this sort of guff as true. I think that those who do not support the conflict have stopped commenting in the main as they generally receive a salvo of abuse.

  69. Just checking in briefly; went for biopsy today which seemed to take ages and hurt like hell. She had to give me 5 shots of local before the site was numb.
    Crusty stuff removed and then a punch biopsy done and have a dressing on the side of my face which resembles the Great Pyramid at Giza.
    I actually cried during the procedure as I could feel it all the time. The consultant was called in to have a butchers and said she would call GP re stronger pain meds. I don’t like taking pills so they can prescribe what they like.
    On another matter, I said to my husband last evening that all the red spots on my arms had gone. I went to bed about 8.30 and he came up about ten. What’s happened to your arm he asked. Huge red blotch just below right elbow. It looks horrible. Not one word mentioned today and these bloody people must have seen it. They know what the cause is but won’t discuss it.
    They put a surgical cap on me to cover my hair; when they took it off I said, Ah, from Ena Sharples to Worzel Gummidge.
    We went down to our fave bistro where we can sit outside and had a couple of much needed drinks and some grub.
    Tired doesn’t even begin to describe it.

    1. Sorry to hear you are going through all this Ann, I hope it’ll be worth it in the end and it all gets cleared up

    3. Let’s hope you’ve plateaued and that everything from here onward gets better and better.

    4. Ooo, Ann. That sounds awful. Hope it goes over quickly.
      Sending a hug…

      1. Thanks. It’s been a long and winding road and MH is also going through it too.
        If I make it through Lozza tonight it will be a miracle.

    5. I wish you all the best Ann, these medical problems can be tough going.
      We’d booked a week away in North Norfolk and came back today, it’s been tough going for a holiday. I went down with an upper respiratory infection. The antibiotics have worked well. But on top of what I already have. We called it a day.
      I hope everything thing goes well for you. It’s all been a bit of a bummer. 😘

    7. Hope you manage a good nights sleep, Ann. Are you still having problems with your hearing? Take care

      1. Eh, what? Speak up a bit ducky;-)
        It’s worse tonight as I have half a ton of sticking plaster almost over me earole- Shame it isn’t Hallowe’en- I wouldn’t need a costume!

          1. I even made the nurses laugh out loud. Am a naughty person but what else can you be when you’re in pain.

          3. #MeToo, Ann, When any nurse. doctor, medico of any discipline asks me, “How are you today?” I invariably reply, “Fair to Bloody Awful”

            It will at least raise a smile if nothing further,

    9. Sorry to hear about your awful ordeal today. Scary that even after 5 shots of supposed-anaesthetic you were still in pain. That’s a situation where a general anaesthetic might be more humane.
      I hope there won’t be any more nasty treatments for you.
      I am dreading my appointment next week – my dodgy bit is on the bony bit of my nose.

  70. A paltry Par Four today.

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    1. Me too. Another where I though no, shirley can’t be that but at the same time, what else can it be?

      Wordle 720 4/6

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    2. A nasty bogie here.
      Wordle 720 5/6

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  71. The nice warm air turned cold as the north wind (from the North Sea/Arctic) strengthened. Still in shorts but with pullover.

    Packing tomorrow. Then journey – so I’ll not be around much until the middle of the week.

    I am logging off now. Be nice to each other

    A bientôt.

    1. Have a great holiday.
      Beware of regrets at having left as you enter the splendid French road systems.

    1. Firstborn has just taken over 2 more hives, making 4 in total.
      Zzzz….!
      That’s about 60,000 bees in total.

        1. Another bee-herd. Known as “The German”, or Holger to his friends.

      2. The Bee man is on his way over, I called him Buzz Lightyear, not sure it went down well.

    2. Firstborn has just taken over 2 more hives, making 4 in total.
      Zzzz….!
      That’s about 60,000 bees in total.

  74. Thank god for old Tony Vivaldi! Balm to the soul as was our lovely cabbie this pm who said to keep a positive attitude at all times. They are great those cabbies!

    1. Nice to hear you being upbeat.
      You and t’other half are having one hell of a stressful time.

  76. Nadine “Doris” got no honours and I wonder if she’s triggering a bye-election to hurt the Tories.

    and for the pedants waiting to leap, bye was deliberate.

    Edit for inverted commas.

      1. A right Doris.
        The resignation was certainly sudden so I doubt it was a coincidence

    4. It was also thought at first that Nadine Dorries was vacating her safe seat to enable Boris Johnson to switch to it from his marginal seat. Nadine Dorries had expected to be elevated into the Peerage but it seems that Sunak may have blocked the nomination.

      Whatever the Truth it is clear we are watching a bunch of rats eating each other. Sunak, the person most active in Bunter’s demise actually resembles a rat.

      Our politicians always back the wrong horse, whether ‘rotten bag of oatmeal’ Joe Biden or the illegitimate EU Commission or Volodymyr Zelensky in Ukraine. They are all life losers.

  77. 373138+ up ticks,

    Seems like this June WAR is bustin out all over,

    Search on GETTR
    ogga1
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    Gerard Batten
    @gjb2021
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    Here’s my analysis for what it is worth.

    The Deep State figure they can’t put a bullet in Trump’s head as it can’t be pulled off a second time.

    Better to stop him running by barring him by means of trumped up charges & better still putting him in jail for 20 years.

    This will cause an uprising among at least half of America & give the excuse to unleash full dictatorial fascism to ‘protect the Constitution & people’.

    If Stalin, Hitler & Mao follow current affairs in Hell they will be admiring just how well its being done.

      1. Indeed- Handel’s Organ concertos are splendid and I know most of Messiah by heart.

  81. I watered the garden , took me an hour to soak everything including the bare patches so that the blackbirds could peck worms .

    Moh returned home from an away game of golf , bad tempered , difficult , , and looking like an illegal migrant .

  83. Evening, all. Frankly, I think the country needs to wake up to the idiocy of even trying to achieve net zero!

    1. Consider:
      Practicality: Can it be done?
      Cost: How much will it cost?
      Effect: Does it matter anyway? Is CO2 really the problem? After all, plants thrive with more CO2 in the atmosphere.

      1. CO2 has never been the problem. It’s plant food. Anyway, it always rose AFTER warming not as a cause of it (see ice core samples from the poles for evidence).

    2. “… the idiocy of even trying to achieve net zero!”

      As I recall, the author is Ed Millipede . . .

  85. Did you know, it takes a plastic bag between 20 and 100 years to break down, but I do so at only a minor inconvenience?

  86. Q: My child will not eat fish. What can I replace it with?
    A: A cat. cats love fish!

  87. Where is Rastus ?

    Two pupils at a private school in Devon have been taken to hospital after being injured in an alleged hammer attack at their boarding house.

    The house master was also seriously injured. It was reported that he tried to break up a fight at Blundell’s school in Tiverton in the early hours of Friday.

    A 16-year-old boy has been arrested on suspicion of causing grievous bodily harm with intent. Police said one of the boys was in a critical condition while the other was in a stable condition.

    The house master, Henry Roffe-Silvester, was released from hospital. He is responsible for running Petergate boarding house, teaching maths and coaching rugby, hockey and athletics.

    His wife Emily works in the school’s development office and two other male teachers are resident tutors at the house. Petergate is one of seven houses at the independent co-educational school, which charges up to £41,000 a year for boarders and £25,000 for day pupils, aged 13 to 17.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/two-pupils-and-teacher-injured-in-blundells-boarding-school-attack-0dz8xd0jz

    2. At risk of appearing a dimbo could you explain why? I’ve not been following events today and my pore ole brane has gone on the blink….. it can’t take any more in….

      1. Our unelected PM Sunak – and Chancellor Hunt – have reduced every aspect of the UK economic shambles to the “What Crisis” levels of the 1970’s.

        1. Thank you. I have already replied but it disappeared…..I do recall the Callaghan ‘what crisis’ when the streets of London were piled with rubbish (and elsewhere bodies) 10 ft high. Fingers crossed this will see the end of Sunak.

  89. I’m taking steps to overcome my hiking addiction. I’m not out of the woods yet!

  90. Disappointment (n):
    Running with an erection into a wall and breaking your nose.

  92. Giant drill begins China’s journey to the centre of Earth
    One of the world’s deepest holes is being dug in a remote corner of Xinjiang province as Beijing goes on the hunt for oil and gas

    When the drill has dug a hole the height of the Shard, it will be only 3 per cent of the way to its destination. When it hits rock that was present when dinosaurs were in their final days, it will still have a geological epoch or two to pass through.

    And when, at this site in China’s Taklamakan desert, it is as far below the Earth’s surface as Everest is above it, it will still have two kilometres to go.

    Two years ago President Xi urged his engineers to explore the “deep Earth”. We now know what he meant. In a remote part of Xinjiang province one of the deepest holes in the world is being dug in an effort to learn about the geology 10km beneath the surface — and to assess the potential for oil and gas. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/china-drill-one-worlds-deepest-holes-earth-8rlxc3j26

    1. Puh.
      It’s common to drill 14,000 feet for oil or gas. Does no journo look up stuff?

    3. I remember there was a theory that oil was not a fossil fuel but a chemical reaction at great pressure and high temperatures that had no origin in plant or animal remains.

    1. Agree..

      The media is even more leftist than ever , and I am certain The Times is as well .. and the Telegraph are more LibDem than they were before , soft handed politics ..

    2. They’ve been working tirelessly and patiently infiltrating the ‘system’ for a long time.

  94. Sugar and salt tax could save the NHS, says health service boss
    Senior figure Matthew Taylor has urged the Government to ‘take the bull by the horns’ and introduce the controversial policies

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/09/sugar-salt-tax-nhs-matthew-taylor-health-trusts/

    Sugar tax would add to ‘nanny state’ fears
    Calling for a new “social contract” with the public about “who is responsible” for improving health, Mr Taylor said that unless tackled “head on”, such issues “risk placing completely unsustainable additional pressures on the NHS”.

    Last week. the think tank the Institute of Economic Affairs declared the UK one of the most draconian countries for restrictions on food and drink.

    The “nanny state index” ranked the UK the second most restrictive country in Europe, as a result of the sugar tax on soft drinks and restrictions on marketing of food to children.

    A delayed ban on “buy one get one free” offers for unhealthy food is due to come into force this autumn, while restrictions on TV and online adverts for junk food have been scheduled for 2025.

    Sir Keir Starmer last month suggested Labour could introduce a tax on sugary and salty foods after the cost-of-living crisis eases.

    Mr Taylor said new research showed the public is willing to “play their part” in improving their health – including using technology to stay out of hospital.

    A survey of more than 1,000 adults carried out by the NHS Confederation, Ipsos Mori and Google Health found nearly four in five people would use technology to manage their health if recommended by the NHS – a figure which rose to nine in 10 among those aged 75 and over.

    The research found more than one in three people is now using wearable technology and apps to monitor their health.

    However, the survey found many older people relied heavily on friends and family, including the younger generations, for support to use technology.

    I think that modern bread is part of the problem as are biscuits chocolates , grapes , sauces and fast food takeaways , and ghastly manufactured cakes .

      1. Lots of lovely money for govt. Govt isn’t interested in our health. That is the bottom line.

    2. Are grapes really bad for us, Belle? I like the odd peeled (by somebody else of course) grape popped into my mouth.

        1. I like grapes – I don’t eat any refined sugar or add it to anything like tea or coffee.

        2. I thought all fruits were full of sugar, some more than others presumably. Most of my sugar comes from (fermented admittedly), grapes.

    3. A tax on salty foods? My doctor tells me I must increase my salt intake to avoid confusion.
      It would seem cur kier stammer is short of salt and doesn’t realise that people need salt. No point in being ignorant unless you show it.

  96. 373139+ up ticks,

    What’s ahappening, that large “plop” was it the sound of another rodent leaving the distressed ship, is the finger around the neckband taking effect ?

    First nadine dorries, now the turkish delight.

    Reminiscent of rats in a sack harman / the rurk.

    no matter what games they are playing to try and reinstate the treacherous turk I believe he’s OUT.

  97. There is now an opportunity for a ‘New Conservative Party‘ . . . Watch this space!

      1. Lucky you! I’ve been to three supermarkets today, done a pile of ironing, washed and hung out duvet cover, sheets and pillowcases, walked a small dog. Prepared dinner. I am exhausted. My back is aching. My brain has stopped. Reading it back to myself it doesn’t sound much but my body is telling me differently. I can’t wait to get into bed.

        1. I dread going to bed , the bed that Moh bought nearly 7 years ago is so hard .

          I pleaded with him to buy a bed similar to our previous sprung mattress divan but he didn’t listen , I ‘d rather sleep in my chair .

          He can sleep anywhere ( referring back to his RN days where RN beds were not too comfortable .

          The spare guest bed is also hard , and the mattress too warm .

          Sometimes I feel like booking into a hotel , just to have a comfortable sleep.

          Not a safe thing to do ..if you get my drift , I need to reach 77 yrs next year.

          1. We’re quite pleased with the new bed we bought about six years ago. It’s pocket sprung & has roomy drawers underneath. It’s comfortable too.

          4. This is the second time this this evening I’ve had to start a reply…. it suddenly gets whooshed, and disappears. For ever. Anyway, why not consider a mattress topper? You could always use the argument that it would extend the life of the mattress as well as being more comfortable for you. I have been looking online at baavets (as opposed to duvets) recently, made from sheeps’ wool. It seems they also do mattress toppers as well. Sad to relate I always have my most comfortable night’s sleep in a hotel bed these days (not that we are in hotels very often). Once upon a time I couldn’t wait to get back to our own bed but we have only small cottage rooms and the space isn’t sufficient for anything except a normal sized double bed – I love the larger sized ones in hotels although we are not exactly overweight.

          5. You can now buy beds (double or kingsize) that have different mattress characteristics on each side. These beds also have the benefit of not disturbing the sleeper on one side when the person on the other side turns over.

        2. I did washing, hanging out & taking in; shopping; watered the plants; stood on a concrete block to trim the creeper away from a window as it was getting a bit dark inside the room; weeded the drive; went to an art exhibition; cooked the dinner (risotto using remains of a chicken); sank down exhausted & decided to have an early night.

          2. I do too – that’s why I decided to get ready for bed while I could still move, or I’d be asleep at the dining table.

          5. No wonder! I’m exhausted reading all that. I walked the dogs into town, visited the surgery, picked up what they asked me to get yesterday (but hadn’t got ready when I went in), had a look round the shops, walked up to the dog groomer’s to change Oscar’s appointment (without success as she was closed), went to the bank to pay a bill and get some cash then we all went for a drink and some flapjacks in a dog-friendly cafe.

      2. Could any of you feisty ladies who know what’s what, explain to a simple-minded ex-engineer how to put a cover on a duvet?

        I’m only 6′ 2″ and you’d think that that was an advantage but it still defeats me.

        One lesson I have learned is that when you have the top of the duvet up all the way in the cover, use the pins (3 of) designed to keep the duvet/cover there despite anything else that might cause an eff-up..

        I eagerly await education on the subject.

        1. What pins? I get the corners in and then give it all a good shake before doing up the buttons at the bottom end.

        2. Get the far corners in, secure with clothes pegs on the outside whilst you get the rest in and sorted. Secure the remaining corners in the duvet and give it a good shake. Patience is the key

        3. Start with the cover inside out. Put your hands in so they are on the far corners and pick up the corners of the duvet. Then turn the cover over on the duvet. Hard to explain but easy to do.

          There might be you tube explanations if you search???

          1. I use this method. Works every time.

            Turn the duvet cover inside out, put your hands into the far corners, pick up the corresponding corners of the duvet through the cover, then shake it a lot until the duvet cover falls down over the duvet.

            Not sure my text is more illuminating, MIR!

          2. Thank you MIR, the most sensible so far, that differs so much to mine and others struggles.

        1. Who was responsible for that? Neil Innes or Viv Stanshall? A couple of real urban spacemen if ever there were.

          1. Wiki says that on their return from the USA they parted company with their manager, Tony Stratton-Smith and that Stanshall decided to take on the day to day management himself. So it may have been his or a collective decision.

  101. Our lovely rescue dog, whom we will have had for 10 years next week (but who may be 14, we don’t know) changed vets today. I was dreading it in case they gave us bad news about his health (he is arthritic and lumpy) but he is OK and lives to fight hopefully many more days. Relief.

    The Z3 (which was MOH’s father’s and which we were given when he bought a new one) on the other hand has been given a terminal rust diagnosis.

    2. The Z3 diagnosis is surprising. BMW are one of the best manufacturers for rust protection.

      I have had Saabs and a couple of Beamers over the years with no rust problems.

      1. It is 20 years old at least and spent the first 15 years of its life next to the sea!!!

  102. Our lovely rescue dog, whom we will have had for 10 years next week (but who may be 14, we don’t know) changed vets today. I was dreading it in case they gave us bad news about his health (he is arthritic and lumpy) but he is OK and lives to fight hopefully many more days. Relief.

    The Z3 (which was MOH’s father’s and which we were given when he bought a new one) on the other hand has been given a terminal rust diagnosis.

  103. OK, I too have had a busy day, even when I tried to sleep in earlier, there were two phone calls that buggered up.any continuity,
    So I shall say, Goodnight and God bless, Gentlefolk until the morning’s light.

  105. A couple made a deal that whoever died first would come back and inform the other if there is sex after death.
    Their biggest fear was that there was no afterlife at all.
    After a long life together, Frank was the first to die. True to his word, he made the first contact: “Kris, Kris, can you hear me?”
    “Is that you, Frank?”
    “Yes, I’ve come back as we agreed.”
    “That’s wonderful! What’s it like?”
    “Well, I get up in the morning, I have sex. I have breakfast and then it’s off to the golf course.
    I have sex again, bathe in the warm sun and then have sex a couple of more times.
    Then I have lunch (and Kris, you’d be proud — lots of greens). Another romp around the golf course, then pretty much have sex the rest of the afternoon.
    After supper, it’s back to the golf course again.
    Then it’s more sex until late at night. I catch some much-needed sleep and then the next day it starts all over again.”
    “Oh, Frank! Are you in Heaven?”
    “No — I’m a fucking rabbit somewhere in Scotland”

    2. Alec, you are really Sir Jasper and I claim my five bob postal order. Lol.

  106. Sweet Jesus. Amongst his many accomplishments when Prime Minister Bunter, in his resignation letter, is congratulating himself on the highly effective and ever so rapid vaccine roll out.

    The man is so truly detached from reality, from the people and the sentiment held by us the people as to make one weep. What a fraud and what an idiot who claims to be some sort of intellectual heavyweight. The only ‘heavyweight’ part of Bunter is his out of control flabbiness. Fat git. Be gone.

  108. Good night, chums, I’m off to bed now. I hope we all sleep well and awake refreshed.

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