Saturday 8 July: Is there any political position that Keir Starmer is willing to stand by?

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550 thoughts on “Saturday 8 July: Is there any political position that Keir Starmer is willing to stand by?”

  1. Good morrow, Gentlefolks, today’s funny

    How To Wash The Cat

    1. Thoroughly clean the toilet.
    2. Add the required amount of shampoo to the toilet water, and have both lids lifted.
    3. Obtain the cat and soothe him/her while you carry him/her towards the bathroom.
    4. In one smooth movement, put the cat in the toilet and close both lids (you may need to stand on the lid so that he cannot escape).
    CAUTION: Do not get any part of your body too close to the edge, as his/her paws will be reaching out for any purchase they can find. The cat will self-agitate and make ample suds. Never mind the noises that come from your toilet, the cat is actually enjoying this.
    5. Flush the toilet three or four times. This provides a “power wash” and “rinse” which I have found to be quite effective.
    6. Have someone open the door to the outside and ensure that there are no people between the toilet and the outside door.
    7. Stand behind the toilet as far as you can, and quickly lift both lids.
    8. The now-clean cat will rocket out of the toilet, and run outside where he/she will dry him/herself.

    Sincerely, The Dog

    2. Leave out step #1, and the cat will do that, too, followed at step 8 with the cat cleaning and drying the cat.
      Even better!

  4. Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte resigns after ​13
    years in power as his coalition government collapses over internal row
    about migration policy

    1. Not before time – another little Hitler.

      It’s not just migration policy but probably more about farmers and their land

      2. Morning all. As I understand it he wanted to limit immigration by allowing fewer family members in.

    3. 374276+ up ticks,

      Morning JN,

      It’s good news week, needs to have a domino affect.

    4. The BBC web page is reporting that Rutte wanted to limit migration, but other parties rejected limits…..
      Mind you Rutte also wanted to reduce the number of farms……

      1. I believe the opposite of what the BBC tell me.
        Rutte would have publicly said he wanted to limit immigration, just like Sunak has.
        They are both liars.

      2. I doubt he will suffer for it. A highly paid sinecure with some quango awaits.

    6. Migration policy, eh?
      Nothing to do with his attempts to become the architect of famine in Europe?

  5. Why the US has finally decided to send cluster weapons to Ukraine. 8 July 2023.

    They are banned in 120 countries, deplored by human rights groups, and have been blamed for the deaths of countless civilians since they were introduced in the Second World War.

    But the grim truth, said one former Ukrainian official, is that Ukraine needs American cluster bombs to kill more Russian soldiers.

    The second paragraph here is a literal truth that has somehow snuck by the editor. This war is no longer about Ukraine but the destruction of Russia. It is significant that this decision about Cluster Munitions has been taken after the collapse of the Ukie counter-attack. The importance of this failure is being concealed by the MSM but it might well be fatal to NATO/US ambitions. Their whole posture is predicated on driving the Russians out of the Donbass and Crimea. If they cannot do this then the decision will go to Russia by default. They will occupy the disputed lands! This is the reason that there are no negotiations. They would be a de facto admission of failure.

    American policy is now reduced to killing as many Russians (and by extension Ukies) as possible in the hopes (vain) that Russia will capitulate. The latter is unlikely in the extreme since the war is now existential for them. Defeat would mean the breakup of the Russian Federation and its submission to the US. No Russian let alone Vladimir Putin is going to accept that!

    Where do I stand with this? Well to see Russia’s possible fate we have only to look at those others that have fallen victim to the US hegemon and its proxies. Iraq or Syria would be good examples but Libya a better. Once having the highest standard of living in Africa its citizens are now impoverished inhabitants in daily fear of their lives. The infrastructure has been destroyed and country itself is ruled by an American proxy. The oil of course keeps flowing. This happens far too often for it to be an accident.

    We need to hope for a Russian victory, not because we are hostile to Ukraine, but because only that will prevent a future where the whole of the world has an American Boot stamping on its face. Russia may be a flawed construct but it is the last hope of Freedom not only for themselves but for us.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/07/07/ukraine-invasion-us-sends-cluster-weapons-analysis/

    2. The US won’t win, that’s clear. This is just about one last looting spree by the military industrial complex before the fiat dollar dies.
      Russia is trying to disarm the US by economic means so that they can’t afford any more wars.
      I guess that is why the Russians leaked the BRICS currency news last week, about it being supported by gold.

      1. Talking of economic means; last week on GP, IDrinkAndIKnowThings mentioned that Argentina had repaid a $2.7Bn IMF loan in yuan, rather than dollars. The US Dollar is suffering a death by a billion cuts. I’m not sure that even the bBC can spin this as Liz Truss’ fault.

  6. 374276+ up ticks.

    Morning Each,

    Saturday 8 July: Is there any political position that Keir Starmer is willing to stand by?

    At this moment in time one anthony charlie lynton is occupying,
    and ALL political overseers are vying for chair, aided & abetted by their thick as shite,supporting soldiers is that of

    …….CAPO DEI CAPI.

  7. Good morning, all. Sunny with a light breeze here in N Essex. 26 degrees forecast for today; the World is on fire, I’m pre-empting Al-Beeb here.

    I’m watching a recent presentation given by Del Bigtree of The Highwire. This slide displays what Big Pharma have achieved in producing vaccines and what the future holds for the people of the USA if the trend continues. Clearly, it’s all about money for Big Pharma and not health for the masses. Somewhere in there is the control element of governments and their globalist masters: vaccine dependency?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/13cec0a3611772a7df2bca793ba79ada16d51fb3803f426212bf651c7d8b3689.png

    The Highwire – Del Bigtree Presentation

    1. Purely coincidentally, vaccines are one of the few profitable markets for pharma companies. Perhaps the no liability contracts that they negotiate with governments have something to do with that.

  9. Good morning folks.

    I once considered myself ‘the glass is half full’ sort of person but now I’m beginning to think it’s half empty as a result of events that are covered up.
    a couple of Examples:

    1) In this video it is reported that four top medical journals wouldn’t print or even have peer reviewed this factual study from Denmark. (It has now been published in a European medical journal).

    The analysis of official data appears to show that there was a significant number of ‘adverse events’ (minor through to major) reported in Denmark, following the administration of early batches of the Pfizer Vaccine mostly before April 2021. (Blue dots). Fewer but still significant numbers in the later batches shown by the green dots and hardly any shown in the later batches shown by the yellow dots. All three series of batches were available across Europe and possibly the UK.

    I should have added 4% of the vaccines produced 70% of the adverse reactions reported so far. Only 21% of those vaccinated with the blue batches were over 75 years old.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6e9f625ea963e651315d687052cef8328ce3ca25de6177831a6906b187524a25.png

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgldG9r-i9M

    2) Government / Media controlling the narrative:

    As Michael Shellenberger wrote at his Public Substack this week, the censorship denialism by the New York Times is a sign that the totalitarians are on the defensive. Its doublespeak is becoming laughably obvious.

    The July 4 ruling that the federal government must not demand censorship by social media companies is a major setback in the war on disinformation, reports the New York Times yesterday. The reason, says The Times, is that the Trump-appointed judge and other Republicans have fallen prey to a conspiracy theory that a Censorship Industrial Complex exists.

    Most dangerously, reports the Times, “The judge’s preliminary injunction is already having an impact. A previously scheduled meeting on threat identification on Thursday between State Department officials and social media executives was abruptly canceled…”

    In other words, there’s no Censorship Industrial Complex — no conspiracy by the US government and social media companies to censor disfavoured speech. At the same time, it’s a tragedy that the US government isn’t able to meet secretly with Facebook to censor disfavoured speech. Got that?

    In London, on stage with Russell Brand and me, Matt Taibbi described this kind of pretzeling as “doublethink,” which comes from George Orwell’s “1984.” Taibbi gives the example of how the US government insisted for months that the Russians blew up their own natural gas pipeline, Nord Stream, and then abruptly blamed our allies, the Ukranians, without ever bothering to explain the switcheroo.

    At least in that case, a few months had passed before the narrative shifted. In the case of the New York Times yesterday, the doublethink is occurring within the same article.

    1. The vax control group research project is expanding its remit to try and collect a lot of data on all kinds of drugs from all round the world, to overcome this problem of faked studies.
      It was founded when the barely tested covid jabs were launched, and has about 60 000 members, I think.
      Might be time to join!
      https://www.vaxcontrolgroup.com/

      1. I got the monthly email reminder from them yesterday. June report duly completed.

        1. Haven’t done mine yet. Should have added, they’re open to the jabbed and the non-jabbed now.

    1. Ha ha when they get Rishi Sunak to announce it, you know they’re desperate!

      Unrelated but related, I saw a headline the other day that said “People will not be forced to live in 15 minute cities” – so that pretty much confirms what they’re planning.

      1. Only the peasants will be required to live in fifteen minute cities.

        Important people like MPs, civil servants and Progressives may live where they want.

      2. TBF, they weren’t lying, people will be forced to live in 15 minute ghettos.

    2. It’s been mentioned several times that the covid jabs were designed to undermine imune systems. This is the real reason why the NHS is in overload. Hence GPs are in hiding. They already know their destiny.
      Increases in Cancer are just part of this dreadful attack on mankind.

      1. 374276+ up ticks,

        Afternoon LOTL,

        Don’t know if it will help but my tale of woe going down then emerging bruised but better so far.
        My psa was 23 I went through the tests then the three month treatment
        proved successful 5 year ago.

        Good consultant ( spanish chap) now I receive three monthly “jock strap ” injections, I told the nurse that was what I come for and she went into hysterics I thought I was going to have io slap her, she then kept muttering I will have to remember that.

        Next I visited specsavers for hearing aid batteries, sitting in the waiting room with two old ladies when the whole bloody false ceiling collapsed I did a paratrooper role I learnt in the uganda parachute regiment, picked myself up and had to untangle the old ladies from the ceiling debris, hero material.

        Next visit to specsavers for eye test
        was referred to the hospital have just had my 6th eyeball injection, the bit I don’t like is when you experience a little prick a vision of sunak pops,
        up and the nurse shouts 180.

        Stick with it girl, you are made of the right material.

        1. Thanks Oggy- I am doing my best. I really hope the ceiling doesn’t collapse when I am next at the hospital. Going to call on Monday to see if they can get me in earlier in the week- not another Friday.
          My lovely husband has gone to the supermarket to get what is needed. I am coping here as best I can.

    2. I suppose your wedding guests receiving a poison pen email on the eve of your wedding is the sort of thing that happens to people who live on privilege and connections, try to fool everyone and take on high profile jobs for which they are unqualified, cheat on their spouse and get mixed up in drug scandals in the gutter press.

  13. Good morning all,

    Blue skies at first over McPhee Towers but now getting cloudy and expecting thundery showers from 10 o’clock onwards. Wind South, 19℃ forecasting 23℃.

    Concerned about AI? Listen to what Elon Musk has to say to Tucker Carlson. It’s not just about students getting ChatGPT to write essays for them or losing a few million jobs. This is serious. There has to be oversight and a ‘kill’ switch.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qy48KQEaOs&t=4420s

  14. Tony Bliar?
    Wasn’t he something fairly high up in the Mandleson/Campbell government?

  15. Good morning all.
    A second rising this morning after my earlier logging on!
    A bright sunny start yet again, with a warm 14°C, up from the 8½° of when I was awake at 04:00!

  17. God:
    “Hey, Archbish, you know that nice rose window you have? Shame if anything should happen to it – again.”

    “Calling God “our Father” is “problematic”, the Archbishop of York has said.

    The Most Rev Stephen Cottrell said the phrase is “problematic” for victims of abuse as well as people who have suffered under “oppressive patriarchy”.

    The Archbishop waded into the controversial debate on God’s gender in his presidential welcome address to General Synod, the Church of England’s legislative body, which is convening in York.

    The Lord’s Prayer, the Christian prayer which derives from when Jesus’s disciples asked him how they should pray, begins: “Our Father, which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy Name”, and contains the male pronouns, “He” and “Him”, in reference to God.

    However, the Archbishop of York has suggested that the use of the term, “Father”, is “problematic” for those who have suffered under abusive fathers, and those who have been abused by clergy, known as their fathers in God.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/07/calling-god-father-problematic-archbishop-york-gender/

    1. If he hates his religion thus, why not resign, give up all the pomp, and fcuk right off, get in a car and fcuk off some more? Just a thought.

      1. Because he’s unemployable anywhere else?
        (Excluding the Home Office, natch).

    2. But of course! Being Omnipotent, Big G can be all 52+ genders all at once and for all points in the Space Time continuum!

      1. I’m sure that would have been in one of Jesus’s sermons, had the 52+ genders been invented in his day.

    3. Apart from being disrespectful and un-Christian, Cottrell’s comments are also anti-men.
      If people have suffered from an abusive father, they need to know a loving one all the more, and taking that away from them is wrong.

    1. You mean he’s another potentially unflushable turd in the shitpan?

      1. The Dutch, the French and the Irish voted in their referendums not to sign up to the European Constitution Treaty.

        The Irish were told that they were pig-ignorant and if they voted the wrong way again next time they would lose EU funding so they meekly surrendered and voted in favour next time.* The Dutch and the French referendums were simply ignored and exactly the same treaty was renamed The Lisbon Treaty and no referendums were allowed.

        The spirit of Brexit has been betrayed in Britain but it is beginning to flourish in other parts of Europe. I have hopes for the Netherlands, France and Hungary.

        * This was not the first time the Irish had voted the wrong way in a referendum and were forced to vote again if they did not give in to the EU’s blackmail.

        The Irish resent the English and think they have been historically badly treated but they are being insulted and treated thoroughly patronisingly by the EU. Why the Irish want to stay in the EU is beyond me. Maybe instead of N. Ireland leaving the UK and joining the RoI perhaps the Republic should leave the EU and rejoin the UK thereby unifying the Island of Ireland?

      2. As a WEF stooge, there’s no potentially about it. See NZ’s former dictator for details.

  19. ‘Morning All

    Orban ain’t having it,,,,,,,,,

    https://twitter.com/PM_ViktorOrban/status/1677353360062652424?s=20

    Medley

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    1. Matt Le Tissier’s Twitt account has now been suspended…I wonder if that was the tweet that did it? (I wanted to start following him, unfortunately not possible right now.)

      1. And what about the Netherlands. The farming chaos has been the consequence of Rutte’s slavish following of EU regs and his government has fallen.

        When Marine Le Pen is president then France will leave the EU along with Hungary and the Netherlands so the remainers are becoming desperate to re-join the EU: the longer the delay the less likely that the EU will still be there to rejoin!

    3. Why is ofcom investigating this at all? It is all so disgusting. The state machine must simply be defunded, the offices closed, the cretins working there locked out.

    1. Aircrew should be armed with guns that kill such scum but the bullets used do not penetrate the fabric of the aircraft.

      Time, methinks, for all alcohol to be banned aboard aircraft and in terminals.

      1. Have duty free shops only available to arriving passengers. It is absurd having people carting full bottles of alcoholic drink on flights.

      2. Tasers Grizzly and or cattle prods. I think guns would be disastrous in such a confined space.

        1. Bagged shot as bullets. Doesn’t penetrate bodies or fuselages, but does give them ine hell of a thwack.

  21. Great news that Gorgeous George Osborne has been insulted. And is terribly upset and unhappy on the eve of his marriage to his mistress.

    Pity that no one will tell us what was said.

    Nottlers are well informed. Any clues??

        1. Unlike Harry the royal halfwit Osborne is too shrewd to sue. Besides, it’s all true.

          1. Apparently he HAS started legal proceedings…. selon le Daily Torygraph.

          2. But isn’t that about the poison pen writer whom he claims to know rather than the Mirror?

          3. Yes – I see what you mean. For a moment I wondered if it was the fragrant first Mrs Osborne. But the paper says the e-mailer (though known to him) is not related…

            The plot thickens. Bit of a blight on his “day in the sun”.

          5. Nothing about it in the Mail.
            Is it possible that the whole thing is just fake news to drum up publicity for his new podcast show with Ed Balls?
            They seem to be trying to compete with London Calling.
            edit, sorry, sauce in next post…

          7. One can only hope, Philip, that the oily bastard ends up rotting in hell, where his oiliness can only serve to add fuel to the heat, along with others who deserve the same treatment, Blair, Brown, Cameron, May et al.

    2. And whoo is the BBC presenter who is in trouble. It couldn’t be big ears surely, karma couldn’t be that good….

    3. He was told in no uncertain terms that his decision to make it impossible for those working in the private sector to get anywhere near the same pensions as MPs and civil servants with their inflation-proof pensions guaranteed has wreaked havoc with the health service as many doctors (such as my nephew) retired in their late 50s when they worked out that they would be worse off if they continued working.

      Osborne was one of the very worst chancellors and a thoroughly repulsive man and he clearly does not like being told the truth.

      1. With respect, the story that someone would be “worse off” by working is simply not correct. Doctors kept on accruing pension while working, and the Government put a cap on the amount that could be accrued without tax consequences.

        The simple answer was to stay working but without further pension accrual once the limit had been reached. It’s not as if they weren’t well-paid. If they wanted compensation for loss of future accrual, I’m sure that something could have been provided in lieu -extra holidays or increased salary, or some other benefit. This story was simply an excuse for those who wanted and had the money to retire early, to do so.

        1. Yet there is a point where the effort required to earn more is outweighed by the taxes taken from you.

          1. Only for those who can afford the choice. Why hide behind a “it’ll cost me to work” kind of attitude when the simple reason is that they could afford to retire then, and then did so?

            I can only surmise that they had some kind of residual guilt in leaving their “caring” profession and therefore foisted it onto the pensions situation, which as I said, was simply a smokescreen. Those medics didn’t have to continue to accrue pension – especially not if those who retired already had enough to retire comfortably – which they obviously had.

            Why not just be honest about wanting to stop working?

    1. Good morning, Grizzly

      Animal fighting – such as dog fighting, cockfighting, bear baiting and badger baiting – was outlawed in the UK in 1835. While, thankfully, most of these bloodsports can now only be found in history books, some still continue to this day across England and Wales.

      1. Good morning, Rastus.

        Indeed. I used to belong to a badger protection group (in an area where badger-baiting was common). We would locate a sett, obtain the permission of the landowner, remove a metre’s depth of turf and soil from above the sett, pour over a layer of reinforced concrete, then replace the soil and turf layer.

        This caused no disturbance, whatsoever, to the badger or their sett; to anyone observing the scene nothing was obvious; and to badger-diggers, they got the shock of their lives when attempting to dig down through a layer of impervious concrete. Occasionally we would visit such protected sites and notice the thwarted attempts at digging by these cretins.

        1. They’re buggers for digging under roads and preventing traffic from moving until August, when they can be prevented from continuing.

          Time to start culling the bastards.

          1. I’d be much happier culling curmudgeons. In fact I’d relish the opportunity to take an active part.

          2. I don’t think you know/realise the damage they do to the environment, and I’m not talking about bovine TB.

          3. The damage that badgers do to the environment is like comparing an atom to a universe when it comes to the ongoing wholesale destruction of the planet that is being committed by Homo sapiens sapiens.

    2. They seem to have ruined their own chances in their own countries and now they are queues to come and ruin Europe.

  23. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2180c638b6b6c178271e367db5c7848526d2323744c794e373cae0be64470c10.png
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/07/07/wealthier-households-pay-more-bbc-licence-fee-richard-sharp/

    Gosh – this chap has really come up with a winning idea as to how to fund the BBC!

    BTL

    The wealthy are wealthy because they did not waste their time watching television but working! They don’t need or want the BBC so they won’t pay for it.

    1. It rather struck me that he’s somewhat lost the plot. The product doens’t change, so why should people pay more for the same thing? He thinks of the licence fee as a tax, which is a very public sector attitude.

      Which then had me thinking – public services don’t change, so why should the better off pay more? Richer people don’t get special roads or better NHS services. Why not have a flat fee for public services rather than the offensive progressive taxes we do? A much lower flat fee.

      I pick up our higher paying support people before the free guys. It’s simple business. You pay for half day response, you get it. If you pay for 24 hours response, that’s what you get. As it is, the wlel off pay vast amounts and receive almost nothing in return while those who cost all the money and pay nothing in get all the value.

    2. Typical leftie view that those who have money should pay more than the rest – for everything. Cropped up in Sweden with fines set according to income. Plain wrong.

  24. Incidentally, re the Osborne story – I really loathe people who – having been married for years and had a family – get divorced then say, publicly, that they, “….have never been happier”. What a slap in the teeth for the former family, especially the children.

    1. Frances, his first wife, who is the daughter of Lord Howell, had ended her usefulness

      once Lord Howell ceased to be minister of State, so time to move on.

    2. Thought exactly the same when i saw the picture of him with the newborn. Except i was thinking of it as a slap in the face (! ) for the poor kids. No wonder so many people are screwed up.

    3. Dare I say it, but his former wife may well be better off without him. Barrister, author, mother, she sounds like a good egg.

  25. Morning all 🙂😊
    Warm and partly cloudy, possible rain. Who knows ?
    I have never been sure why Starmer was presented with a knighthood, surely it must have been an administration error. And a cover up.
    I wonder how the bbc are likely to judge the wealthier house holds. Without means testing or price valuations. It all sounds desperately crooked to me. But it’s typical of our current cultural situation. The less you’ve done, the less you do and the more you moan the more you get with out honest and fair commitment.

    1. A great big department in the BBC(paid by the taxpayer) would ask for copies of all tax returns

      and bill the viewers accordingly.

      This way they can avoid having to deal with people who claim that they don’t watch TV.

      All will be charged.

      1. Probs, but it’s not the taxpayers who are considered to be rich Janet, it’s got to be all the dodgers.

      1. It’s village weekend here, parking is a nightmare. There’s no way I can walk that far and back up hill.
        Despite bumping into dozens of people I’ve known for years. Shame.

    3. Any system where we have no choice whether we pay for Al Been or not (e.g. council tax or broadband) would be, in modern parlance, “problematic”.

      1. As we all have unfortunately learnt Mir.
        Anything that might be hanging closer to the edge profit wise the ‘They’ will steal.
        We all know that the bbc wouldn’t survive 6 months if they changed to pay to view.

      1. For what?
        Apparently as was rumoured his daughter tried to commit suicide.
        He forbade people to investigate and slapped a D notice on it.
        He was also treated for AFIB at Hammersmith. That wasn’t allowed to be made public either.

  26. Bloody Hell! That got a bit damp!
    Just had a dash up the “garden” to get the washing in.
    It went from the first drops, large ones too, to a full on downpour in less than a minute.
    Less than 5 minutes later, it’s stopped!

    1. We’ve had spatters, then nothing, then drops. I’m hoping for a proper deluge to really clear away the rubbish.

    2. That’s the climate crisis/catastrophe/insert preferred word – for you.

      1. It’s Global Warming/Climate Change/The CLIMATE EMERGENCY!/A CLIMATE CATASTROPHE!!!!!/CLIMATE ARMAGEDDON!!!!!!/{insert latest panic & scare mongering catch phrase here}

  27. We’re off to the vets shortly. Lily is not at all well – it could be her last trip. she seems to have given up on life.

  28. Hallo all! Rain from 11 o’clock on and it certainly looks like it’s on the way, quite gloomy outside. But I hope that everyone is sunny inside, like little rays of sunshine 😁😁😁

    I see that the Archbishop of York is as busy as a beaver destroying the C of E. Might as well shut up shop for all the point there is between him and the thing in Canterbury wrecking the Church. It was even main story at Fox News, USA but it has been replaced by: “United Methodist churches take hit after controversial LGBT stance.” It never stops. I suppose if I was a Protestant I would say it is the work of the Devil. But I’m not a Protestant and so I believe it is the work of man, lazy and ignorant men, with no faith quite content to wreck things because they crave social acceptance, rather than acceptance by God. They have no faith other than in their own egos.

    Here’s the article from the Telegraph.

    Calling God ‘our Father’ is problematic, says Archbishop of York
    Liberal, feminist clergy support Stephen Cottrell’s comments while others say he is taking his ‘cue from culture rather than scripture’

    Calling God “our Father” is “problematic”, the Archbishop of York has said.

    The Most Rev Stephen Cottrell said the phrase is “problematic” for victims of abuse as well as people who have suffered under “oppressive patriarchy”.

    The Archbishop waded into the controversial debate on God’s gender in his presidential welcome address to General Synod, the Church of England’s legislative body, which is convening in York.

    The Lord’s Prayer, the Christian prayer which derives from when Jesus’s disciples asked him how they should pray, begins: “Our Father, which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy Name”, and contains the male pronouns, “He” and “Him”, in reference to God.

    However, the Archbishop of York has suggested that the use of the term, “Father”, is “problematic” for those who have suffered under abusive fathers, and those who have been abused by clergy, known as their fathers in God.

    The Archbishop’s comments sparked a mixed reaction from a divided church.

    Liberal, feminist clergy within the Church of England said just “because Jesus called God ‘daddy’, we think we have to call God ‘daddy’”, and agreed with his intervention on the controversial subject.

    In contrast, conservative Christians criticised the Archbishop for taking his “cue from culture rather than scripture”.

    ‘Oppressively patriarchal grip’
    In a speech centred on themes of cooperation and collaboration, the Archbishop said that, for Christians, the “God to whom we pray is ‘Father’.”

    He added: ”And, yes, I know the word ‘Father’ is problematic for those whose experience of earthly fathers has been destructive and abusive, and for all of us who have laboured rather too much from an oppressively patriarchal grip on life.”

    His comments come after the previous meeting of the Synod in February, in which the notion of a gender-neutral God was proposed.

    Proposals were made to the Liturgical Commission, which prepares and promotes forms of religious worship and service within the Church, to consider launching a project “on gendered language” referencing God.

    The move was criticised by conservatives, who have warned that “male and female imagery is not interchangeable”.

    However, liberal Christians welcomed it, claiming that “a theological misreading of God as exclusively male is a driver of much continuing discrimination and sexism against women”.

    Responding to the Archbishop’s comments, Canon Dr Chris Sugden, Chairman of Anglican Mainstream, pointed out that in the Bible, Jesus says “when you pray, say our Father”.

    “Is the Archbishop of York saying Jesus was wrong or that Jesus was not pastorally aware? I can’t believe he is doing that consciously, but that’s the impression it gives,” Dr Sugden said.

    “It seems to be emblematic of the approach of some church leaders to take their cues from culture rather than scripture.”

    He added: “If people have had a difficult relationship with their human fathers then the option open to them is to say you can rediscover the true nature of fatherhood through Christ.”

    Scripture ‘is clear’
    The Revd Dr Ian Paul, Associate Minister, St Nic’s Nottingham, and member of General Synod and the Archbishops’ Council, added: “We are not at liberty to reject this clear and consistent teaching of Scripture.”

    In contrast, Rev Christina Rees CBE, a former General Synod member, founder member of the Archbishops’ Council and who led the campaign for women bishops as Chairman of Women and the Church (WATCH), said that the Archbishop “has put his finger on an issue that’s a really live issue for Christians and has been for many years”.

    “Calling God ‘father’ has been hugely problematic,” she said, “and when women say it and have been saying it, there’s been some understanding and sympathy.

    “But I think the issues that it has raised have come into sharp focus more with clergy abuse issues. Because sometimes the abuse victims have been abused by their birth fathers and gone on to be abused by their fathers in God – the local priest – so there are multiple layers why the term father is really difficult for people in the church.”

    “It’s the way it’s been set for so long and so we’re stuck,” she added. “And because Jesus called God ‘daddy’, we think we have to call God ‘daddy’. And the big question is, do we really believe God believes that male human beings bear the image of God more fully and accurately than women? The answer is absolutely not.”

      1. Please don’t bring agnosticism into it with Welby – he is pure pagan and I’m agnostic, i.e., I don’t know what to believe.

        I just know that there is something bigger than us,

    2. But, but…Jesus could not get it wrong because, well, the core belief and the whole point of Christianity is that Jesus IS GOD. Belief in a god apart from Christ is paganism. The Jews are not pagan. They just believe the incarnation of the Christ/Messiah (Greek/Hebrew) hasn’t yet happened. The rest are pagan, including the non-believers who’ve captured the western church.

      1. It gets rather more complicated than that Sue. Justin Martyr and the Cappadocian Fathers taught that because Christ was the Logos and that the Logos has always existed, Christ, has always operated in the world since creation but was not yet incarnate in Jesus. Because of the Logos/Christ there have always been “natural Christians”. Amongst those were several of the Jewish prophets and Greek philosophers who existed prior to the incarnation, even the Buddha is counted, in the Orthodox Church, as a Christian. As St. Justin Martyr said: “Wherever there is truth it belongs to us, the Christians, otherwise Christ is not the Truth and not the Saviour.” I’m paraphrasing because I don’t remember the exact quote. What the West means by Christian and Christ, is a severe narrowing down of what the early Church understood and which the Orthodox Church continues to believe. We are made in the image and likeness of God so you cannot say that prior to Jesus there were no Christens. To me the difference between East and West is that we see Christ as Pantocrator, “Ruler of All” or Sustainer of the World”. The emphasis is on the risen Christ in majesty. In the West, He is the suffering Saviour, which is not the emphasis in Orthodoxy.

        1. Interesting. Though the Catholic doctrine of limbo does have scriptural basis and the good souls who died without Christ will be purified at the last day. They’re not Christians because they’re not baptised. If Buddha is a Christian then baptism has no value.

          1. Such people, which also included Aristotle and Plato are called “natural” Christians. That is to say they are Christians by, in some way, living life in the image of the Logos, even if they did not understand it. They could not articulate what Jesus gave to humanity because his time had yet to arrive. The work of Christ, however, has always existed in the world, it is prior to creation and has existed since then. “In the beginning was the Word”. The Word has always been present in the world. The birth of Jesus is because it was the right time (Kyeros) for God to manifest on earth as a human being. But as Christ, as the Logos, he has always been here and, as Logos, he has always communicated.

  29. Morning all.

    I posted late yesterday a post I’d got from a comment below the line on Spiked (the article on the breastfeeding man) where the commenter suggested complaining to Ofcom on the topic. I’ll find it and repost it below.

    This is another comment from below the line on a Daily Sceptic piece, about a campaign group called Stop Funding Heat which has been threatening a coffee chain called Grind which has advertised on GB News. The CEO of Grind has now rescinded his advertising. This is the comment:

    “ I’ve just emailed Grind to express my disapproval. Their email address is: grind@emergelimited.com”

    1. I read this below the line earlier this week on Spiked. It was in response to the article on Al Beeb about the “Mother” (read: man) who was “breastfeeding”. Link to article here:

      https://www.spiked-online.c…

      The poster recommends complaining to Ofcom and provides further useful detail:

      “ With regards to the ITV News segment on the trans bloke; make a complaint to Ofcom on the grounds of insulting women and reinforcing sexual stereotypes. Encourage friends and family to do the same. I know you might think this is worse than useless but each complaint has to be logged, and if thousands of us do it, they have to take notice.

      You can make a complaint here; https://ofcomforms.secure.f…

      It was on ITV News at Ten (22.00) on the 28th of June.”

      2. The guy also uses nipple clamps to induce an erection. The baby is a sex toy. Vile. In any sane society, he’d be in a secure psychiatric unit, not paraded on television.

        1. Good morning Sue, and everyone. That is a double edged sword; while I do not approve of the pseudo-female’s activities, lactating mothers can also experience some level of arousal. This may be one of the reasons, not openly discussed, why mothers stop, or do not persist with, b feeding.

          1. Well i bloody didn’t, i can assure you. And i have some fairly intimate conversations with my girlfriends and this never once came up either at the time or since. If some mothers do experience this phenomenon, i would expect it to me an very small minority.

        2. Good morning Sue, and everyone. That is a double edged sword; while I do not approve of the pseudo-female’s activities, lactating mothers can also experience some level of arousal. This may be one of the reasons, not openly discussed, why mothers stop, or do not persist with, b feeding.

    2. I’m not sure from your comment as to who was complaining about what. Was it that the article was published at all or that it was insulting to someone?

      1. It was about the activists who shut down things they disapprove of by making co-ordinated complaints to the authorities or who threaten corporations whose decisions they disapprove of.

        These activists don’t like GB News so they threaten every company which advertises on it and the companies always capitulate.

        We can either accept this behaviour or fight fire with fire. If ordinary people take the time to complain to Ofcom about programmes pretending men can breastfeed, or to write to CEOs and tell them to grow a backbone, we might begin the fightback.

        1. Is Ofcom even impartial? GB News must be careful. It doesn’t yet have the experience of the BBC in presenting an obviously political message in that clever and careful way that persuades many that it is neutral.

    3. If stop funding hate took their name seriously they’d shut down, as all they do is spread bitterness and hatred.

      The Left are so monumentally egotistical they refuse to acknowledge that they’re the ones in the wrong.

  30. Report on the bufferstop collision at Enfield Town released by RAIB.

    This appears to be a rather relevant paragraph:-

    The accident occurred because the driver of the train did not apply the brakes in time,
    as a result of him losing awareness of the driving task. The loss of awareness was
    probably a result of him being significantly fatigued at the time. Post-accident drug and
    alcohol tests of the driver also yielded a positive result for a recreational drug.

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1168551/R132022_221109_Enfield_Town.pdf

    1. Thank goodness no one was seriously hurt. Rather puts a kibosh on the lie that train drivers are overpaid and overworked.

  31. Andrew Bridgen MP continues to pose important medical questions to a politically tin-eared government and opposition. Mordaunt’s dismissive answer is replete with actions that Bridgen could take but offers absolutely nothing re government action. This response clearly demonstrates that this government does not care about any issue that arises around the “vaccine” irrespective of the evidence produced and no matter the esteem the source of the evidence is granted.

    https://twitter.com/JimFergusonUK/status/1677263443122958336

    2. Eva you will have to get the Netherlands out of the EU first. Rutte has just been following the instructions of the the WEF and the EU and if his successor does the same the problems of the farmers will not be resolved.

    3. It appears Eva has forgotten that the the EU has the casting vote.

  33. From The Mirror

    Calls to ban huge SUVs from built-up areas grow after school horror that left girl dead
    Story by Nick Sommerlad • Yesterday 21:06

    …..so we assume that this is a ploy by someone to prevent the driver being prosecuted for “causing death by dangerous driving”.

    As we all noticed, the driver was bailed extraordinarily quickly, and now this.

    Next step — find a sympathetic Coroner.

      1. One of Microsoft’s favourite phrases is “under the hood,” which never fails to annoy me.
        Some patronising 24 year old box ticker will write a blog post that starts “Let’s look under the hood at “

  35. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/493aae23302727b8b4dd3a56335e5b71a3b97611f501d38f95aeecd41694ff44.png https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/07/calling-god-father-problematic-archbishop-york-gender/

    Cameron’s mission to destroy the C of E by appointing Welby as Archpillock of Cunterbury is working out just fine. The Archpillock of York has decided to help his boss out by downgrading the role of the Father.

    My wife, a devout Roman Catholic, cannot understand why I am still – albeit only nominally – a member of the Church of England when the Church of England is no longer the Church of England.

    I have put a similar question by email (with no reply) to Jacob Rees-Mogg who still blindly stays in the Conservative Party though it no longer represents any of his ideals. He should prove he is not just a hypocrite and get out of it immediately.

    1. I’m still a member of the Church of England because I hope to reform it from within, and do not want to let down Cranmer, Latimer and Ridley.
      Also, if we all leave, it will be easier for them to convert all our churches into bijou little flats or houses for rich atheists moving out of London.

      The Conservative Party is beyond saving – bunch of knaves, liars, thieves, cheats, crooks etc.

      1. Don’t forget Bishop John Hooper, who was burnt at the stake in Gloucester, just in front of his cathedral.

      2. That was the argument put forward for not leaving the EU – reform from within!

  36. Remember that chart showing food consumption in France dropping?
    Same in Germany, apparently.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5849c47e128fbd20433107ad8e0882e4f36adcb7817a92c583ae1601e4ab4f78.jpg

    Do we have any information from the UK?
    I am certainly spending less, but that’s because I have fewer children at home, also I am growing more in my garden.

    Population decline in France an Germany? We know that the birth rate has plummeted, and the death rate has risen across heavily vaxxed countries.
    In Britain, the incoming boatloads probably cancel these effects out.

    edit: The chart is rate of change of spending on food, not actual spending.
    It appears to show that the French are much more constant in food spending than the Germans. The latter appear to react more strongly to recession by cutting spending on food.
    But the current decrease does not show this effect, which could be a hint that it is due to demographics rather than recession?

    1. Are those figures at constant prices? If not with recent 20% food inflation volumes of food purchased must have cratered!

      1. It says “real household spending” so I assume that means corrected for inflation.

    2. If consumption falls then so does employment. With unemployment, welfare rises. High taxes create unemployment which means less revenue is raised.

      This isn’t magic, it’s not new. The same applies throughout history in every economy. Why then, does the OBR, the Treasury, the entire state machine refuse to accept these basic facts?

      1. And never forget to reverse just one million unemployed requires the creation of 1,000 real jobs every day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year for just under 3 years!

  37. Just got back from town. Caught by a thunderstorm five minutes from home with no waterproofs! The pain!

    1. Yet the remedy is so comically simple. It truly is. The state must spend less. It’s got to stop devaluing the currency, cut taxes , abandon the cliamte change hoax and set the market free.

      1. “It’s got to .. cut taxes … “. What, and send the markets into free fall à la Liz Truss? What are you thinking!

      2. But they need to keep on creating debt so that they can pay the interest on the debt they created last week, so they need ever more reasons to create debt, aka printing money…

        1. Bloody quantitative easing. A rose by any other name would also stink to high heaven.

      3. …and the ‘climate change’ hoax. which, despite evidence to the contrary, our useless government ploughs on with it – we are not convinced..

    2. There was a stock market crash in March 2020. I held tight on my ISA. It went back up, but I didn’t look. I’ve lost a bit over the last couple of months so I’ve stopped looking. No point getting stressed over it. I’ll sit tight again.

      1. One good trading day is all it takes for investments to recover. I try not to stress over it.

      1. Its quite spectacular. It is making the house shake its so violent!

        2. Wow. Just warm, grey and muggy but dry here. Bad radio reception so will switch it off.

          1. Warm and steamy here after the drop of rain we had earlier. Might make grave digging a bit easier.

          2. One crack of thunder about ten min ago, the loudest I’ve ever heard – nothing since.

      2. In East Dorset the rain has stopped and the sun is shining. However, radar shows another batch of rain leaving Brest towards the IOW.

    4. Not yet, but after the earlier very brief cloudburst, it became bright & sunny again before clouding over and a steady light to moderate rain starting.

  40. We’re back from the vets – brought Lily back home with us. Now awaiting blood test results.

      1. Blood tests indicated kidney failure, anaemia and liver failure. We’ve taken her back as the kindest thing we could for her was to be pts. RIP lovely Lily.

          1. Thankyou. It doesn’t get any easier to say goodbye to a beloved pet. I posted a couple of pics from happier days.

        5. That’s what happened to Charlie. It was tough to say goodbye after 17 years, but it was the kindest and only thing.

          1. Kidney failure especially is the usual thing with elderly cats. She’d been very thin for a long time, but still enjoyed her food. Then she stopped eating on Thursday – I knew it was the end.

          2. Yes. When my setter turned up his nose at his sausages, I knew that was it. He had kidney failure, too.

  41. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f085a99dc3f29ae2ad731c76f233302d8c9f2cbb216e999a3cd424ed0a57873f.png
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/mind/scientific-reason-remember-faces-names-prospangnosia/

    Many years ago I met a very attractive woman in Exeter who was, I thought, the wife of one of my friends who lived in Totnes. I even asked after Tony, and her reply suggested that she was married to a chap called Tony.

    I have no idea who she thought I was but we chatted affably for about ten minutes before realising that neither of us knew who the other was.

  42. 374276+ up ticks,
    Dt,
    People on benefits with mental health problems given cars worth £40k
    A survey found that nearly a third of those who cited anxiety as their primary condition would be eligible for the vehicle scheme

    May one ask, is this scheme open to the indigenous peoples
    also.?

    In the areas outside city transport links, like a small town, allot an ambulance on standby to every 4/5 roads, I am sure the indigenous would go for that, more so than every anxious islamic guest will assuredly be presented with a £40 K motor, transport to the mosque to thank allah for the stupidity of the English.

    1. It’s not just muslims. There are plenty of fraudsters troughing on public money. The state just doesn’t care. It’s not their money and there’s always more of it.

    2. I saw a young black kid with mental health ishoos on one of those e-scooter thingies yesterday shooting a red light and going full speed across a busy junction, weaving between the cars coming in other directions. Is it a game of dare? Do they do it deliberately?

      1. This morning, I saw a kid zooming down the pavement on an e-scooter, checking his phone!

        1. They don’t believe anything will happen to them. When it does, they know the other party will come off worse by having to pay for everything due to insurance.

          1. And they will be smiling little heroes, always the for their Nan. Instead of hardened young criminals.

    3. My cousin is unwell – self harms and doesn’t leave the house. She’s looked after by her husband who is as mad as a box of Greg’s.
      They were offered a Mobility scheme car – they chose, and got, a BMW.

      I care a lot for my cousin, but that makes me furious.

      1. OK, the mental health issues may stop them working, but why should that mean they are entitled to a car on me? Do we really want such folk driving about?

  43. A nonce has been discovered at the BBC. That’s like finding a sausage roll in Greggs.

    1. GB News has gone down in the estimation of many of its former advocates since the sacking of Mark Steyn.

      The amount of time GB News devotes to the Sussexes is infuriating when the two real points which need constant examination are:
      i) Covid vaccine damage;
      and
      ii) Muslim Rape Gangs.

      Mark Steyn did not shy away from discussing these topics and GB News is totally craven in ignoring these in favour of poring over the behaviour of Migraine and Harry.

        1. To be fair they do still cover both legal and illegal immigration fairly often.

          However a thoroughly left and woke Ofcom threatens cancellation to anyone who wants to ask questions about Covid vaccines or rape gangs but I do wish GB News had the testicular strength to stand up against it.

          1. They have to strike a fine balance or they would lose their funding and be shut down.

          2. GB News does not get full Marx!

            In terms of what it can say:

            It should be free but everywhere it is in Chains

  45. Now health professionals are urged to call vaginas ‘bonus holes’ to avoid offending trans or non-binary patients
    EXCLUSIVE: Women’s rights campaigners say term is misogynistic and wrong
    It appears in a glossary of words for health professionals to think about using

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12274419/Now-health-professionals-urged-call-vaginas-bonus-holes-avoid-offending-patients.html

    Women have condemned a charity after it suggested the vagina could instead be referred to as ‘the bonus hole’ to avoid upsetting non-binary or trans men.

    Female rights campaigners today rounded on the alternative glossary, branding it both ‘misogynistic’ and ‘utterly dehumanising’.

    It is featured on charitable organisation Jo’s Cervical Cancer Trust on a page for health professionals who are treating patients who have the disease.

    1. It is utterly unsustainable. economically, socially, legally. They’ve all got to go. Every single one. If the home office won’t do it’s job then it must be shut down.

      1. Gorgeous in looks and very loving in nature. Yet she was in the rescue for several months as nobody wanted an elderly cat who hissed at them. She hissed at us too but we took her home anyway. We’ve had nearly four years of love.

        2. It’s wonderful how older rescue cats can settle into a loving home. Old dogs and cats definitely can learn new tricks!

          1. She clearly had a happy life with her previous elderly couple. The old man died and the lady went into care, which was why she needed a new home. She told us lots about her earlier life – no cat flap (she wouldn’t deign to use ours) but she liked being outside unless it was cold or raining. She loved to clean up plates, especially when we’d had a roast dinner and she got her share. The line where she’d worn a collar never disappeared, but she didn’t have one here. She was past hunting age so our birds and voles were safe from her. I’d have an elderly cat again but the time with them is too short.

          2. I wish you’d tell Oscar that! 🙂 He is getting better, but he’s still far from amenable at times.

    5. Oh Ndovu, I’m so sorry. She is beautiful. Bless her heart. May she rest in peace forever in the shadows of your garden.

      1. It doesn’t get any easier does it? Even though we knew it was inevitable (and I think she did too) and we’ve done it before with previous cats. Suzie just disappeared one evening and was never seen again. That was hard to cope with too. But we do and no doubt we’ll have another needy cat in time. Not yet though.

        Lily seemed to give up on life the last couple of days – she stopped eating but was still loving. This morning she was very calm and not stressed at all.

        1. We had a very beautiful cat called Tansy who did that. We had friends round one night and Tansy insisted on walking all over everybody before she went to sleep behind the sofa. That’s where I found her the next morning – she just knew it was time. Unfortunately it is our lovely Hectors time. He can’t get up without great difficulty and our daughter is coming tomorrow. Our hearts are breaking and he’s just wolfed down some steak I cooked. He still managed to spit out the tiny coedine pill I put in a lump of steak! I share your tears Jules.

          1. Oh Sue, I’m so sorry, it’s so poignantly heartbreaking when you know it’s about to happen and you are living through their last hours and minutes with them, and trying to stay composed for their sake. Thinking of you and Ndovu. What a terrible year 2023 is turning out to be.

          2. Thank you pm. I know you must still be feeling raw after the loss of your wonderful Poppie.

          3. Thank you – I have just about stopped breaking down every few hours now, once a day for a few minutes I have a sniffle, she was involved in every aspect of our lives thus there is a constant reminder. I’ve found Bach’s Rescue Remedy really helpful, when I realise my mood has slid then two or three squirts onto my tongue and an hour later I realise my sadness has lifted for a while

          4. I hope you’re feeling better, Mum over your loss of Poppy

            I haven’t forgotten your pain at her loss and still say a prayer for her and you.

          6. …and I share yours, Sue, over Hector.

            Let’s hope all goes well but I know what it’s like to have to say, “Fare the well.” to a much-loved pet.

          7. It’s heartbreaking, isn’t it? You know it’s the best thing to do, but it’s such a hard decision to make.

          1. She had a hatred of cat carriers so we used the laundry basket – she was quite calm sitting in there. I was able to hold her while she had the fatal jab.

    6. I’m so sorry for you and your husband. Remember all the wonderful happiness she brought to you, and think of her often.
      Thinking of you.💐

    8. Just remember all the happy times. And be glad that you gave her a safe and comfortable life.

    9. Sorry Ndovu. It is always hard to lose a pet. Our wonderful companions who give so much and ask for so little.

    12. Really sorry to hear this. She was a lovely cat, and you have mentioned her so often.

  48. Another T**t believing in Flying Pigs:

    Re: hotelling of illegal immigrants…
    “Dame Nia Griffith, MP for Lanelli, said she was very “very disappointed” with the outcome of Friday’s hearing.
    “I think it’s particularly upsetting for the residents who live closely to the hotel and whilst people have a right to their opinion I would actually beg them to be very considerate,” she said.
    “We need to work together with other countries to find solutions that will last… there has to be a really concerted effort to work internationally with partners so there are proper agreements.”

    2. There are “proper agreements”. The Barcelona agreement, the Global Compact for Migration to name but two. And in any case HMG wants all this immigration. HMG goes to great lengths to prevent any observation of the relentless arrival and bringing in of the boat people.

  49. I thought this had been lost to angling posterity but somebody to whom we owe a huge vote of thanks has found it and put it up on YT. Two parts about 1 hour 30 minutes each of three episodes. For those who are mystified by a man’s urge to go fishing here lie the answers. Mind you, there are an increasing number of female anglers these days. What are they escaping from?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NeoJ7qdXBo&t=2719s

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONvAFr-j3Jk&t=1821s

  50. Beeb headline:

    President Zelensky visits Snake Island as war enters 500th day
    Hands up the ones at the back who said: “How appropriate”

    2. They just want to make sure they’ve got everybody’s DNA sample. Don’t tell ’em, Pike!

        1. Mothers friend said, a few years ago, that “the flea botanist” had visited… took me an age to work out wtf she meant.

        2. We tried Frotline on our dog and most of the mites phlew off but it take a few ticks to get rest off!

        1. Be very careful with Statins.

          MOH had severe side effects from them, and one of his friends also had really bad problems.

          We wonder how common these unpleasant side effects are?

          2. Like the Covid vaccine, I refuse them.

            They play pop with my memory and I don’t need them.

          3. I think they are very common. My OH had them forced onto him after the heart surgery, but I’m determined to say no if they are ever offered to me. I’ve been reading Dr Malcolm Kendrick’s books – they are mainly a money-maker for the deug companies.

  52. My initial post this morning has hit the nail on the head:

    Al-Beeb headline. (My emphasis)

    UK weather: Heat-health alert will be followed by thunderstorms

    Hand in hand with the Met Office for attempting to put the frighteners on when in early July the temperature is forecast to hit 25 degrees. Give me strength!

    1. The water temperature in my unheated swimming pool will probably be over 30°C when I go in this evening.
      It was 29° for my lunchtime swim.
      The air temperature at the moment is 31° and taking humidity into account the weather channel suggests it feels like 33°.
      Do they think it’s dangerous for me to venture the 50 or so metres down to the pool?

      2. Is that 1.5C above any number you want and likely to destroy the planet?

        1. It’s certainly 1.5°C above the number I want, but HG loves it!

          It’s an unusual summer here when we don’t see days over 35, and we’ve been over 40 on occasion. Fortunately it’s not generally humid, so it’s probably much pleasanter than the UK’s high 20’s low 30’s.

    2. 20°c and supposedly raining here in The Borders.

      But it ain’t necessarily so.

  53. Do you remember when the Readers’ Digest used to fill the space at the end of articles with short stories or other fillers. One of these was Life’s Like That and another was Towards More Picturesque Speech.

    Here is a suggestion for the Rs’ D filler department:

    White people are pigmentationally challenged just as masturbation is occupational therapy for the self-sufficient.

    2. I agree with that well; not little but much. Before or afterward; even best, back, away or inwards; therein lots, below or elsewhere.

  56. Finding a particular nonce at the ‘B’BC is like finding a needle in a needle stack.

  57. Thanks everyone for your supportive comments – it does help. It’s brightening up a bit here so I’ll have to go and start my grave-digging duty, in the hope the rain has softened the ground a bit.

    1. My neighbour has buried a succession of her cats in her garden. The grave is finished with a chunk of railway sleeper to deter foxes. Or you could use something like a paving slab and make a little shrine.

          1. At home or in a favourite haunt? I was offered cremation, but decided to bring her home, she will be in the garden, along with three others. Gone but never forgotten.

          2. We have a regular animal cemetery. I still occasionally catch a glimpse of Robinson (my late hound) out of the corner of my eye as he does his circuit of the garden.

          3. Same with me. I still see Fizzy out of the corner of my eye and that was 13 years ago.

          5. I wanted her buried in the garden, but the recommended 3′ hole was a bit beyond us in our hard, resistant soils, chalk on clay. It is 3 weeks now, I think the first ten days we were in shock, I can scarcely believe it still. In the end, it was emotionally easier for us if she were cremated although there is still that desire to do the best that once can for her even though we were in a state. It was quite sudden in the end. She will be scattered in the garden. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5d39683a00cb4113516e66842daf61561c5f960c74655884c7dbc63fc0184ce1.jpg

          7. Thank you, she was so easy on the eye, so lovely to look at and a calming and peaceful presence in our home. Always delighted to see us if one of us were out.

          9. Beautiful girl. They mean so much – perhaps it’s the unconditional and non-judgemental love they give us.

          10. All they want is for you to be there, as they are there for you, and therein lies the magic.

    2. You will be in my thoughts tonight- I have been through it; 3 dogs and a cat and it never gets easier.

      1. There are three cats buried in our garden, Suzie disappeared without trace but she’s not forgotten. I left one buried in the garden at the old house, and one where my mum lived.

    3. When we buried Thompson in 2009, the MR transplanted snowdrops on top of the grave. So we have a lovely reminder every spring.

  58. THE DT reports that the captain of an EsayJet flight asked for 19 volunteers to leave the flight because it was too heavy to take off. They were offered £500 each to do so.

    I remember flying on a Libyan Arab Airlines 727 from Tripoli to Cairo many years ago. The plane was 17 hours late. When we finally boarded, the captain announced that there would be another delay of half an hour because of local traffic congestion.

    I happened to know one of the stewardesses. I asked her why there was a delay when I haven’t seen any other planes land or depart. She said: “Oh, No. That’s not the reason! The plane is too heavy so they are unloading all the baggage.

    When we got to Cairo, the representatives of the airline had wisely made themselves scarce to avoid the inevitable ensuing chaos! It took me 5 days to get my bag even though they had been sitting in the airport for three days.

    After much frustration I finally had an audience with a military colonel, in his huge office, who was the then director of the airport. He had a servant clipping his cigar, another pouring his coffee, another watering his plants and several who were trying to get his attention with wads of official papers requiring his signature. When he finally deigned to look in my direction, I explained the problem. He said, “Don’t worry, there is no problem. All you have to do is make a formal application in Arabic and you will get your baggage immediately.”

    I went straight downstairs, offered a hefty bribe to a guard and another to a customs officer and finally got my bag!

    Compensation? Unthinkable in those days!

    1. I remember sitting waiting for a flight somewhere and staff came round asking (bribing) volunters to be bumped off for a later flight. We sat tight and did get on.

      1. Had that a while ago, and since I wasn’t in a hurry, said OK, I’ll transfer to the later flight.
        They told me that wasn’t possible, because I was a gold card, so had priority!
        Bugger! Kr 2 000 missed!

    2. THE DT reports that the captain of an EsayJet flight asked for 19 volunteers to leave the flight because it was too heavy to take off. They were offered £500 each to do so.

      Why didn’t he just throw the fattest off S?

      2. You normally get killed in the rush for these sort of deals. Effectively a free holiday.

    3. Bloody Lib Arab! A flight from Larnaca to Benkhazi. As we took off we could see our baggage still heaped in piles on the tarmac. The silly bastards still clapped the flight crew on landing.

  59. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e5cee9d4cda31ccb88247d54cfa6a21a20c5c25fd6c4188355113a7222350e15.png
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/08/biden-uk-visit-worsening-britain-us-special-relationship/

    Some BTL exchanges

    Sandra Stewart

    And he supported and funded the IRA murderers who killed Mountbatten. Let’s hope King Charles reminds him of that.

    Reply to Sandra Stewart: Brian Hunt

    K. Charles has been captured and won’t go against Sunak’s script.

    Another reply to SandraStewart : Richard Tracey

    Of course the Idiot King will not do that. In Biden he sees a soul-mate – a man who is almost as stupid as he is himself.

    And our own moronic MSM and politicians urged us to hate Trump – who is UK’s friend – and love Biden who loathes the UK.
    We have seriously stupid MSM and PTB as well as a brain-impaired monarch and a diabolically possessed Archpillock of Canterbury.

    1. I saw an amusing comment about Biden on a US news site the other day:

      “That man’s cheese done slid off his cracker.”

    2. On Monday, PM Sunak should make it clear to Biden, that we disapprove of his decision to send cluster bombs to Ukraine. I expect that he won’t – despite The UK being a founder/signatory of an anti-cluster bomb convention.

      By pandering to Dopey Joe, Sunak is digging us deeper into this tragic, unnecessary and dangerous proxy war. This could well escalate into a nuclear confrontation.

      Sunak – his predecessor and the present Cabinet – are backing the wrong side!

  60. Rain clattering down, much needed , but oh so fierce .

    The garden colours are a funny bright colour , sunshine coming from somewhere is illuminating the green of the grass , plants and trees.

    Stopped , just like that .. a tropical downpour .. reminding me of Africa, where the geckos and Iguala lizards would cling to the outside house walls, and giant centipedes, huge cockroaches would clamber up for safety ..

    The air is hot and humid .. even the windows have steamed up on the inside despite the top windows being open .

    I can hear rumbles of thunder , probably from the Channel .

    I have a summer sniffle and cough , and suddenly start sneezing , very difficult . Moh is cursing me because he has 2 important games of golf , tomorrow and in Somerset on Monday..

    Son ran his personal best in the 5 k Park run this morning , 19 minutes and a few more seconds .. His mid life crisis is proving to be a success, and we are delighted for him, hard work and a lot of personal sacrifice including not touching a drop of alcohol since April 2022

  62. Long read ok. https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/08/europe/netherlands-government-collapse-immigration-policy-intl-hnk/index.html

    CNN
    —
    The Dutch government has collapsed after failing to reach an agreement on curbing immigration.

    Prime Minister Mark Rutte said Friday that his government would tender its resignation to the Dutch king, triggering new elections to be held in the fall.

    Rutte, who has been in power since 2010 and is Europe’s second-longest serving leader, said that disputes over measures to restrict immigration had caused his four-party coalition government to fracture.

    “It’s no secret that the coalition partners have differing opinions about immigration policy,” Rutte said at a press conference late Friday night, claiming that “those differences have become insurmountable.”

    King Willem-Alexander has returned early from his vacation to meet Rutte on Saturday, when the Prime Minister will formally offer his resignation.

    The move was sparked by differences between Rutte’s conservative VVD party and coalition counterparts over measures to limit the flow of asylum seekers to the country.

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    Rutte said the coalition had “lost its political foundation” after the breakdown in negotiations. “That is extremely regrettable and at the same time a political reality we cannot avoid,” he said.

    As well as VVD, the current coalition government consists of the liberal D66 party, the centrist Christian Union and more socially conservative Christian Democratic Appeal.

    VVD has proposed limiting entrance for the children of war refugees who are already in the country and making families wait for at least two years before they can be united.

    Two of VVD’s coalition parties – the Christian Union and D66 – refused to support the restrictions, leading to the split.

    “In the Netherlands we have a tradition of bridging differences. We are a country of minorities. We take each other into account. That is the only way we can come up with supported solutions. That’s why we made agreements with four parties,” Dutch Finance Minister and leader of the DD6 party Sigrid Kaag said Friday.

    “After long and intense discussions, the cooperation in the coalition stopped today. D66 approached the talks constructively. The negotiations were tough. We have always sought the right tone, attitude, and content. Unfortunately, the differences turned out to be irreconcilable,” she added.

    The number of applications the Netherlands received related to asylum jumped from 36,620 in 2021 to 47,991 last year, with most applicants coming from Syria, according to the Dutch Immigration and Naturalization Service.

    Dutch King Willem-Alexander speaks at an event to commemorate the anniversary of the abolition of slavery by the Netherlands, in Amsterdam, Netherlands, Saturday, July 1, 2023. The king apologised for the royal house’s role in slavery and asked for forgiveness.
    Dutch king apologizes for Netherlands’ historic role in slavery
    As of May this year, the country had received 16,097 applications.

    The government estimates applications could top 70,000 by the end of 2023.

    Wopke Hoekstra, Dutch foreign minister and leader of the Christian Democratic Appeal, which supported Rutte’s policies, said the Netherlands had to “get a grip on migration.”

    “The carrying capacity of our small, densely populated country is under pressure. People too often find themselves competing for housing, healthcare and education,” Hoekstra said Friday.

    On Monday there will be a debate in parliament about the fall of the government. Parliament will return from its summer recess for that debate.

    Rutte, 56, has led four consecutive governments and is expected to lead VVD into the new elections. By law, the elections cannot be held within 90 days after the resignation of a government, and summer and autumn recesses are likely to push the date into November.

    With the issue of immigration rising in salience, some Dutch political analysts have speculated as to whether Rutte may be seizing on this issue in order to strengthen his own electoral position.

    “Other parties in the coalition think that Rutte might have had an interest in this,” said Xander van der Wulp, a political reporter for CNN affiliate and Dutch national broadcaster NOS. “That he thought, migration is a good subject to break now, and then to start a campaign.”

      1. Both, probably – ostensibly immigration and settlement of dependants, but it’s a big opportunity for the farmers’ party to get the government off the farmers’ backs.

    2. Hopefully it means that the Farmers will head the next Dutch government and will repeal all Rutte’s stupid laws. and give the Dutch a referendum on remaining in the EU.

  63. Dale Vince got Sue Mac wound up the other day – here’s a piece from the Daily Sceptic with a bit more detail on this shyster’s funds. All paid for by taxpayers.

    https://dailysceptic.org/2023/07/08/just-stop-oil-donor-received-110-million-in-green-subsidies-from-taxpayer/

    Alternative energy companies run by Just Stop Oil and Labour Party
    paymaster Dale Vince have collected taxpayer subsidies of around £110
    million over the last 20 years. Vince’s company Ecotricity claims it is a
    “not for dividend” company with its money – “all of it” – going into
    our mission “to green-up Britain”. But every labourer is worthy of his
    hire. In Vince’s case, over £43 million (pre-tax) from the company in
    the form of salary, share buybacks, loans and receipts from the sale of a
    subsidiary. Some of these payments, it seems, are more tax efficient
    than paying dividends.

  64. Lucky to get out with a Double Bogey Six!

    Wordle 749 6/6
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    1. Just slightly better with a bogey.

      Wordle 749 5/6

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    2. A rare bogey five here
      Wordle 749 5/6

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    3. I got a par 4 but only because I spotted the word while searching for clues. I thought my choice number 3 was a better one actually 😀!

      Wordle 749 4/6

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    4. A close run thing and I had 2 more possibilities to go.
      Wordle 749 6/6

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      1. My tiles look v similar. 4/5 on the first go but I didn’t get it until 6/6.

    4. So to avoid causing possible offence to less than 0.1% of the population, health professionals are advised to cause offence to 50% of the population. And that doesn’t include men like myself, who find the term equally offensive.

    5. FFS why don’t we just send a message to all these ‘king morons and tell them all to get stuffed and then do one.

  66. That’s me gone. A sultry, overcast and rather unpleasant day – rain everywhere BUT NOT here. May get a shower in an hour – prolly not.

    Have a jolly evening

    A demain.

      2. I even spent an hour sitting in the sun on our ‘pond terrace’ this afternoon.
        The Antisan bite cream has come I handy. 🦟🦟

          1. We just came home from sitting with our next door neighbours. They are both in their early 80s.
            Enjoying a couple of bottles of wine.
            And putting the world to rights.
            It seems that we all have similar thoughts on the way our political idiots and the rest of Whitehall are behaving.
            I’ve never had a 15% Primavito before.
            I’ll sleep for at least 6 hours now.
            Quick Jimmy riddle and back to sleep. Perhaps I’m lucky.
            Off now 23:24.

        2. We had no sunshine today and it rained on and off. Antisan is an essential isn’t it!

          1. A mixture here, enough rain to water the herbs but timed well so my husband didn’t get wet.

      3. Just pulled up outside the house when a hailstorm began. Sat in the car for about 20 minutes then got my feet wet as I got out.

    3. I wish I could have sent you some of ours; my garden path is flooded and I thought I was going to get stranded in the middle of a flood on the way back home this evening. I expected the car to conk out at any minute.

  67. Showing complete lack of sensitivity, the Canadian government did a nice photo op to announce that their latest handout ( a cost of food subsidy) was in the mail.

    You wouldn’t think that they would celebrate twenty percent of Canadians needing the equivalent of food stamps but there you are.

    Then you would have also thought that they would stage the photos in a market or maybe a cut price supermarket but no, the elite decided to use the equivalent of Harrods food hall for their self congratulatory appearance.

    What a pile of idiots.

    1. All the globalist governments appear to have run their course, what is coming next, i wonder?

  68. Captain Roy Thomas Harris, GC (1st August 1902 – 18th August 1973), The Queen’s Royal Regiment.

    In 1938, he accepted an offer to become Chief Combustion Engineer to Croydon Council, with a salary of £450 per annum. He had control of all of the Council’s 25 Public Works Plants. At the outbreak of World War II, Roy volunteered for the ARP and was soon transferred to the ARP Engineers Service. He became involved in building demolition and debris clearance.

    On 18th September 1940, an unexploded bomb fell into a house on Langdale Road, Thornton Heath, Surrey. Massive air raids had begun a few days earlier and the problem of dealing with so many bombs at one time was a new one. Harris dismantled it, this being one of 85 such acts carried out by him. It should be noted here that Harris was not trained for bomb disposal. Roy was recommended for the George Cross on 9th October 1940, and eventually his citation was published in the London Gazette on 17th December 1940.

    https://i0.wp.com/victoriacrossonline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Roy-T-Harris-GC.jpg?resize=257%2C430&ssl=1

        1. If I tried that, I’d be mince all over the side of a building… 🙁

  69. Tonight, I shall try the morphine for the first time- so if I make less sense than usual tomorrow, be kind;-)
    Going to call on Monday and see if they can get me in sooner than Friday; I can’t go on like this.

    4. Good decision.
      I understand why you’ve held back, but you need a decent night’s sleep.

  70. For anyone who missed it. One of his guests was a smarmy doctor who kept repeating the 16 million lives saved by the covid vax and everyone who died of covid was unvaxxed bull crap. When Neil Oliver and Andrew Bridgen quoted multiple facts to the contrary, the quack just started hurling insults.

    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1677734473671081984

    1. Who was the doctor, Sue? Any idea?
      I found him! Dr David Lloyd, Ridgeway Surgery, Harrow! So just your average GP then!

      1. David Lloyd. He gets trotted out quite a lot on GBN to be the token propagandist.

    2. “The moment we come together as people, white, black and brown, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist or no religion at all, the moment we come together as human beings united by faith and family and freedom, when that moment comes it’s over for the totalitarians.”

      Hmm. We still need lines in the sand, Mr O, and, in some cases, the further away the line, the better for all.

    1. They are still trying to cancel his professional qualifications.

      The turd is on holiday, things might improve if he does nothing.

    2. If Rutte wanted to reduce nitrogen levels, why not encourage farmers to use less of it? Why close down an arbitrary number of farms?

      Silly me – he’s one of Klaus’s Young Global Leaders. taking orders from Davos.

    1. I was wondering what would happen if one of the arrivals at an airport claimed asylum. Do they get placed in a secure facility or a luxury hotel?

    2. Overridden by ‘international’ law (the ICR). Never get into a discussion with a ‘liberal’ on the subject. He will tell you that it is not illegal to apply for asylum. This is why the Refugee Council and others encourage illegal immigrants to pretend to be refugees – we are obliged by the ICR to process them, even though everyone knows what they really are.

    1. Why are we held to the higher standard than every nation the welfare shoppers pass through? Why are they not being returned by France? Why do they even get here? Why are we blamed for their deliberate failures?

  77. Jeremy Vine joins Rylan Clark in blasting social media speculation that THEY are the ‘household name’ host at centre of BBC scandal: Pair issue denials as broadcaster investigates claim ‘top presenter paid a teenager £35,000 for sexual photos’

    Isn’t Jeremy Vine the hero cyclist who is constantly filming and trying to shame drivers, even though the fault may be his?

    I hope social media crucifies him in the same way that he uses it to crucify others.

    Damn the man, I hope he gets Hell!

      1. If I could choose any of them to be the one who it turns out to be, my choice would be for it to be jug ears.

        2. Oooh! That’s a toughie! As Alf says – both of them, and Packham!

          1. The jury is still out on Packham, as far as I’m concerned.
            Extract the climate change bits and I think he’s a brilliant, if weird, presenter.
            I thoroughly enjoy the vast majority of his nature programmes.

          2. I’ve met him a few times and he is odd, but good at the nature programmes. He’s very lacking in empathy when you meet him face to face, but covers it up well as a broadcaster.

          4. I was never a )ackam fan until recently. He’s become less arrogant lately.
            As sos says, a bit weird, but that’s down to his ? Asperger’s I suppose.

            What converted je was a prog he made called something like The Walk that Made Me – a stroll along the River Itchen, describing the route and meeting people along the way.

  78. Ofcom are investigating GB News for pushing a petition to keep cash payments. However, Vine using his programme to push his personal cyclist agenda is perfectly acceptable.

  79. Gawd almighty, what have we become?

    High-flying female UBS banker’s ‘extreme’ obsession with only drinking bottled water and eating organic food is ruled to be a disability

    The laws are so loosely written that any chancer can earn compensation and be ruled fire-proof.

    1. In that case, I have a disability; today I have had some water, Pinot and a few fruit gums. Just made myself a small plate of food but can’t eat it.

          3. Sorree, open goal…
            Press the tubs against the painful bits.
            Baaad sosraboc…

            Seriously, whatever eases the pain, go for it.

      2. Got to keep your energy up, Ann.
        Slather it in ketchup, or chocolate & caramel sauce!

        1. My husband ate my food….I have returned to Pinot. Thanks for the thought but I don’t like ketchup- we only keep it because grandson is addicted ;-))

          7. I knew, we had that discussion a few days ago.

            Have you considered making home-made slush-puppies?
            Cooling, they provide hydration and a few calories, and would be easy for your husband to produce if you have a liquidiser.

          8. If that is the extent of your nutrition, I hope that it is at least a full bodied Pinot. maybe switch to Barolo or something stronger.

          10. I don’t know of a disagreeable method of preparing and cooking potatoes. It’s my favourite vegetable. So versatile. I can forgive the cruelties of Spain’s conquest of South and Central America for its discovery of the potato (and tomato).

    2. Silly cow. Would she be fooled by bottled tap water and non-organic farmed food in a blind test? She’s disabled alright, mentally disabled.

      1. Quite
        It should be a test, carried out in court in front of the jury.
        BUT, it’s rather like a ducking stool test, if she dies she was correct.

  80. And the weather has finally arrived!
    A small amount of thunder, but a torrential downpour at the moment!

    1. The state should never be allowed to kill someone. Flogging, yes. It’s a waste of time jailing yet another black. Our jails are full of them.

      1. Why not?

        YOU are quite happy to suggest that the boat invaders should be shot or the boats sunk, what’s the difference?

        These bastards knew what they were doing, string them up.

          1. To be honest, I don’t care how it is done to these animals, just do it.
            They had no qualms about how their victims would suffer.

          2. In the short term, a brutal, violent approach is needed. That demographic has to be make afraid – and I’ll include anyone grafitting, kiddie boy racers, and assorted anti social scum while I’m at it.

            When they’re cowed, and the attitude stops then we engage with them to dismantle this nutcase culture and stop any more kids being killed. The Left won’t like it, but their supper tables are already held up by the mountain of dead black kids.

          5. Costs too much to jail them for life – if I was in charge the jails would be empty but the graveyards full

          6. Killing the murderers creates space for more criminals to be taken off the streets for longer, what’s not to like?

          12. I wouldn’t want it to be made a spectacle, an entertainment, that’s all.

          13. Why not?
            It might discourage others.
            Public castration for violent rape, without anaesthetic.
            Gangland murders, public execution.

          14. Nah, that’s descending from what’s right. Just because they are monsters doesn’t mean we should become like them.

        2. Some of the time I say things without thinking about them. I don’t want anyone killed. I am sick of the gimmigrants being brought here at all.

          Sinking the boats in French waters is acceptable to me – let them swim home as a message to the rest of them.

          There’s a systemic problem herewith black men abandoning their families, welfare and a lack of discipline by a welfare dependent family and a kid who goes to a gang to find that family.

          There’s myriad solutions, the first being to end welfare. The next to understand why black men walk out – but I suspect that’s welfare related as well.

          1. As we all do.
            I agree re sinking the boats, throw them a life jacket and point them back to France
            The rest appears to be their culture.

          2. If one man is ‘allowed’ 4 wives in their country of origin, then that is an awful lot of men without a woman in their lives. So they come here looking for women. And no doubt they can’t believe their eyes when they see us walking about freely, at all hours, many of the younger ones scantily and provocatively dressed – and some of the older ones too. They are here to get a woman, these are the one who, for whatever reason, probably status and cash, cannot get one back home.

    2. With the cost of 24 years of housing and feeding him in prison, if civilisation lasts that long, we can’t afford to not be executing these people.

      2. What about the one in Liverpool, who killed the girl on Christmas Eve – he got 48 years. There’s no consistency with these sentences.

        1. Nothing compared to the American mass murderer who has apparently received 50 consecutive life terms.

          It will be interesting to see how they enforce that.

    3. I don’t agree with the DP sos, but I do advocate whole life sentences with hard labour and gruel, not fluffy cells with WiFi.

      1. If you believe they should be kept in prison forever, why wouldn’t you execute them?

        When the evidence is 100% certain, DNA, CCTV, Eye witnesses etc. what possible excuse is there for not ridding the planet of them?

  82. Rishi Sunak ‘discourages’ cluster bomb use after Biden agrees to send them to Ukraine
    Joe Biden said he had ‘made the difficult’ decision to send the bombs as because the ‘Ukrainians are running out of ammunition’

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/joe-biden-cluster-bombs-ukraine-rishi-sunak-kyiv-ukraine-tobias-ellwood-britain-b1093092.html
    Not my call but five’s a deal. The only problem I have is that Biden isn’t worthy to join them
    Abraham Lincoln (1865, by John Wilkes Booth),
    James A. Garfield (1881, by Charles J. Guiteau),
    William McKinley (1901, by Leon Czolgosz),
    John F. Kennedy (1963, by Lee Harvey Oswald).
    No doubt Biden would be taken out by a black, tranny, tri-sexual pretending to be a skunk.

  83. Just gone to bed. It’s 22:00, and the sun is shining in my eyes. Difficult to sleep that way… But it’ll soon be the opposite, too much dark, so I’m not really complaining.
    Nighty night comrades. Sleep wekk, especially LotL and Sir Jasper.

    2. Just getting lighter after a massive downpour and thunderstorm!
      Rain is easing off and the thunder has moved North.

    1. Someone who did that at the wedding of one of my grandchildren would find themselves in hospital with appalling injuries.

      1. It’s the language that bothers me. It’s not about the environment, it’s about their getting their own way. A legitimate target – they’re terrorists.

    2. JSO are utterly revolting, but so was the wedding party in this case – collection of all the worst Tory sleaze.
      How on earth are they being married in church, given that the wife he dumped is still alive? Perhaps it was only a blessing.

      Note to self: Put the Daily Mail down and go to bed!

  85. Well, as the storm dies down as it moves North, no doubt we’ll be treated to claims that it’s all because of Global Warming/Climate Change/The CLIMATE EMERGENCY!/A CLIMATE CATASTROPHE!!!!!/CLIMATE ARMAGEDDON!!!!!!/{insert latest panic & scare mongering catch phrase here}

    1. Or, as the conversation would have gone only a few years ago:
      “Aye Bob, it were a bit warm today.”

    2. ‘Er oop north tells me there’s thunder and lightning. Clear proof that we’re all going to die.

    4. My BiL has morphine patches after having cancer surgery. One patch lasts a week. He can wear the whole patch (doc has said if he needs it) but is cutting them in half ATM, hoping to halve again soon. Could you get those on Rx, Lottie?

    1. I’d cut his balls off without an anaesthetic first. I toyed with pacifism when I was young and if you’d asked me twenty years ago, I was against the death penalty. Sometimes martyrdom is the only way but it shouldn’t happen where there’s a viable alternative.

      1. Snap on the anaesthetic, I didn’t see your post as I was replying as I worked through the notifications

  89. And the downpour has started again!
    And I’m off to bed. G’night all.

  91. Evening, all. Thunderstorms, torrential rain and flash floods here. Plus I think I dropped my phone at a friend’s where I was visiting this afternoon. I can’t get into my email to ask and of course, I don’t have the phone number to ring because it’s in my mobile! As for Keir Starmer, he’s just willing to say anything that he thinks will get him elected.

    1. That’s the trouble with mobile phones – if you’re not careful, you store your whole life in them w/o a back up.
      When you get your phone back, invest in an old fashioned address book ind copy the deets.

      1. I do have an address book, but it happens that this person’s address and mobile number isn’t in it. Sod’s law! Actually, I have several address books in which I separate people according to how I know them (what associations they belong to, for instance).

    2. Keir Starmer? Just your everyday politician. Ordinary, unexceptional, could be worse.

    1. OOOPs, my mistake.
      Not a woman; a transexual, bi-polar, quintisexual, your guess is as good as mine what they are, PROUD hypocrite.

        1. The BBC stated that the person concerned hadn’t been on since May.

          That appears to cut out Jeremy Vine, but it doesn’t cut out leftie big ears who has not been seen for a few weeks.

          1. What grates is comparing the glee with which the BBC broadcast the police visiting Cliff Richards’s house – that warranted the full glare of publicity.

      1. Has there ever been a more gruesomely emetic individual on television? I can’t think of one.

        1. Orla Guerin. I haven’t seen her for a few years but just the thought of her gets on my tits. Clare Balding? Comme ci, comme ça.’

          1. Don’t know who the first one is but I have been out the country for some years.

          2. Orla Guerin? A BBC war correspondent, often in Middle East and North Africa conflict zones. I suspect my recoil is a bit peculiar, but she oozes sanctimony and gloom. I just want her observations, not a selection of words and tone of voice to steer me in a particular direction of her choosing.

            Oh, and I don’t much like Noel Edmonds, either. All I can discern is fake charm.

          3. Yes, many of the DJs were fake. MH doesn’t listen to Radio 2 now Bruce has gone- I didn’t like him either.
            Going to knock this last glass down and go to bed. More paracetamol, maybe tomorrow I will be brave enough to try the morphine.
            Goodnight David and I wish you well.

          4. Likewise, Ann. I just hope you can find some peace. I’ll ‘see’ you tomorrow. x

  95. It’s now after 1 and I am up having some Pinot.
    A thought came to me…..Sos is being nice to me- gawd I must be in bad shape;-)

    1. I’m still awake too Lottie. I slept a lot during the day after working the night shift.

      1. See reply to David below…I am going to bed, again, to try and sleep.

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