Wednesday 22 November: The Chancellor must save Britain’s economy from its addiction to debt

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  1. Good morrow, Gentlefolk. today’s story

    The Wasp Killer
    A young husband and wife were sunning on a nude beach when a wasp buzzed into the woman’s vagina. The husband covered her with a coat, pulled on his shorts, carried her to the car and made a dash to the hospital. After examining her, the doctor explained that the wasp was too far in to be reached with forceps. He suggested the husband try to entice it out by putting honey on his penis, penetrating her and withdrawing as soon as he felt the wasp. The man agreed to try, but because he was so nervous, he couldn’t rise to the occasion.

    “If neither of you objects,” the medic said, “I could give it a try.”

    Under the circumstances, both agreed. The doctor quickly undressed, slathered on some honey and mounted the woman. The husband watched with increasing alarm as the doctor’s thrusts continued for several long minutes.

    “Hey, What the hell are you doing?” screamed the husband.

    “Change of plans,” the physician panted, “I’m gonna crush the little blighter!”

  4. The Chancellor must save Britain’s economy from its addiction to debt

    I wonder who has been borrowing and printing money these last 13 years.

  5. 378983+ up ticks,

    Morning Each,

    A vote winner i’m sure lab/lib/ con plus local councils along with hard core current members would have a field day regarding “far right wingers”

    Songpinganq
    @songpinganq
    China names and shames citizens with the lowest Social Credit Scores, by displaying their faces, IDs, addresses…on every government-run billboard in the town for all to see.

    This also alerts who you may want to ‘stay away’ from, lest your social credit score goes down!!

    https://x.com/songpinganq/status/1653408888555974657?s=20

    1. In a year or two’s time we should get to see the photos of all Nottlers on a bus stop in your local town!

  6. Good morning all.

    Headline from the DT – Daily Tosh…

    “‘Racism in medieval England’ may have led to black people dying of bubonic plague”

    Until now I never understood why it was called The Black Death….I know now!

    4. Be nice to know how many blacks there were in the UK during that period.

      And how the greeniacs would manage in such an environment when the power runs out.

    5. It is an absolute corker.
      But Dr. Redfern can relax; she has now ensured that her sinecure and her pension are safe.

    6. Lifted from ‘British History – the, It’s All Bollocks Edition’. Aren’t the cretins who write this puerile stuff even a tad embarrassed at their efforts to distort history?
      Next up, Edward III and why his first son was named…

    7. From the same report.

      A book titled Brilliant Black British History was criticised for its claim that “every single British person comes from a migrant” and that black people built Stonehenge.

      Genetic studies have shown that the inhabitants of Britain in the period when Stonehenge was completed, around 2,500 BC, were pale-skinned early farmers whose ancestors had spread from Anatolia.

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/21/racism-in-medieval-england-led-to-more-black-people-dying/

      While the notion that black people built Stonehenge is highly likely to be nonsense, it is true that “every single British person comes from a migrant”. There was a time that the land we now call Britain was entirely devoid of humans. They seem to have evolved in Africa. Their descendants began to spread to other parts of the world, some of whom were the very first people to set foot in ancient Britain. It’s in that sense, that we’re all descended from migrants.

      1. Yet other races are considered indigenous even though the same principal applies. “Native Americans” for instance are actually native to Siberia and Mongolia and they know this and acknowledge as much. Possibly why they refer to themselves simply as tribal people.

        1. Is it the case that the peoples found in the Americas by Europeans were not themselves descendants of the first humans to settle there? I recall reading that those we call Native Americans or First Nations replaced even earlier human settlers, now pretty much extinct, unless traces of their DNA survives in those who interbred with them before replacing them.

          This Humanities article speculates about early humans who might very well pre-date those who we know crossed from Siberia to Alaska.

          https://www.neh.gov/humanities/2014/marchapril/feature/the-first-americans#:~:text=In%20the%201970s%2C%20college%20students,known%20collectively%20as%20Clovis%20people.

        1. Why did some evolve and not others and where is the missing link? The modern day woke folk go some way towards answering that question. Problem is, there are intelligent gorillas.

  9. Good morning all.
    Another grey start but at least it’s dry with a tad under 3¼°C on the Yard Thermometer.

        1. After every election, more of the voters will have voted against the new government than for it.
          That’s the great myth about our ‘democracy’.

        2. In Britain? No – we had a largely benevolent (for us) dictatorship for several centuries.
          We probably got captured in the seventeenth century, a struggle that has mostly been forgotten or re-told. But in 1697, we got our very own central bank and we have been accordingly in chains albeit prosperous ones, ever since.

    3. Not for nothing is what the nation watches (or listens) at any given time called ‘a programme’.

    4. So you’re saying, BoB, that putting your washing out on the clothes line is extremely dangerous to our democracy? Lol.

    1. And the irony is that the bbc sets out to appeal to people who probably never pay the licence fee.
      I recorded a bbc4 prog about ‘the wars’ in Australia last night.
      It will be interesting to see how much more of their bullsh1t was focused on and against white occupiers. And how they ruined the lives of all the original fun loving, constructive and productive tribes.

      1. It’s also noticeable how many woke questions seem to be creeping in to quiz shows; last night Pointless had a section about “Climate Concerns” and other shows always seem to add questions about obscure authors of colour!!

        1. And how the ratio of different creeds and cultures are changing daily on our TV screens.
          I watched a programme about farming and its award ceremonies. ‘Hideously white’ of course. It’s damn hard work and a life of dedication.
          I’m surprised that the bbc allowed it to be aired at all.
          It must have been so painful for them.

          1. ‘Twas only those enslaved who took any part in farming. The rest are too lazy to take up any hard work.

          5. In our Digs in JHB, we had a lovely lady named Betty and another named Mary who use to run the 5 bed home were my friend John and I shared a room with B&B.
            They brought us tea in bed every Morning. They made our breakfast and take away lunch. We gave them lots of old clothes we didn’t use any more, they loved it.

  13. Good day all,

    Lovely red dawn at the McPhee’s this morning, wind in the West, 6℃ ≫ 9℃ today but cloudy.

    It’s 0812 am on the 22nd November 2023 and there is absolutley nothing of any interest or note occurring in this little spot in cyber-space. Off to put the porridge on.

  15. Nat West appears to be rotten to the core. Article in today’s City AM has its head of fraud caught earlier this year moonlighting for CEL solicitors, which specialises in bringing scam claims against banks. Apparently however he didn’t share confidential information about Nat West. So that’s alright then. Where do they get their ethics from????

  16. Good Moaning.
    Rain’s stopped so I can dig up the herbaceous border to find the bones of a black, one legged lesbian who carked it during the Black Death.
    Colchester, that well-known epicentre of white, male privilege.
    A little gem from the Tellygraff. In C21 Blighty, satire is well and truly dead.

    “‘Racism in medieval England’ may have led to black people dying of bubonic plague

    Museum of London study also claims ‘misogynoir’ – prejudice against women of African descent – increased deaths during 14th-century disease””

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/83185dd0e7effb843496e3f5c1ffae4ecb657db109f4fe246ae553c9008f03d7.jpg

  18. Morning all 🙂😊
    The usual out side.
    Funny how ‘the experts’ can talk about climate change so much and with all the modern equipment can’t get the weather forecast right. I’m trying to treat all the gathered moss we have, to a luxury shower.
    Funny how the chancellor aka our government/treasury can’t get anything right. Stop the boats and send ALL of them back. That’s going to save millions.
    Stop grizzling about it and Just get on with the job you useless plonkers.
    It’s the only way you’re are going to be re-elected.

    1. Nobody with the power to stop the boats has the slightest interest in doing so, The people who want the boats stopped do not have the power to do so.

      1. Were I living on the south coast, I’d take a slug gun and stand at the cliff edge and take pot-shots at the dinghies as they approached, in the hope of sinking a few.

        1. On the evidence thus far, not a single soul within convenient reach of the south coast is prepared to take that step.

    2. Published a few days ago, the last 20 years of temperature readings for Oslo. The maximum annual values have been steadily decreasing, and the minimum annual values steadily increasing, so the variation over the year is getting less from both ends. Warming? Seems not.

  19. 378983+ up ticks,
    The time a physical self defence fight back in England commences I do believe we will be lacking in indigenous numbers.

    Alexandra Marshall
    @ellymelly
    ·
    9h
    This is not France. It is France under occupation.

    The politicians who obsess about ‘safety’ created the most dangerous social environment since the last world war.
    And they did it for money and power.

    https://x.com/ellymelly/status/1727115701012582616?s=20

  20. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/24b486a616a8c307b9baa02a7550c8f63b81e4aec015139a8ea42d0ab859ec8f.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/feb75cce684439ba00f9b0c32a6ebfdfc515b8fa82c261ba538489e79587eacf.png Perhaps a new ownership for the Daily Telegraph might just herald an improvement in its now routinely slipshod standard of reporting and editing. Examples of its execrable decline in recent years are glaringly presented daily.

    The letter (from Barbara Solomons) was published yesterday. How could its large title be missed by both proofreaders and sub-editors?

    The snippet from an article on wire-haired fox terriers (not “wire fox terriers”) appeared in today’s edition. Notwithstanding the evident crass reference to “The Second Word War” (Where? In a Scrabble® contest?), I am still struggling to see how Edward VII, who died in 1910, made that breed popular in the years post-1945.

    Time for a complete and comprehensive clear-out at this lamentable rag that used to be the standard-bearer of high-quality journalism.

    1. It’s on the brink of being sold to the Arabs apparently, unless the govt steps in to block the sale. So now it will be even more pro-islamic.

      Perhaps they want to bring the value down…

      PS are you not familiar with the well known term “Reporing” which is a mixture of reporting and whoring?

      3. Letters columns will be filled with correspondence about the permissible thickness of the stick to beat your wif(ves).

    2. It used to be a great newspaper with people like Max Hastings. I never missed a copy, but never read it now.

    3. NW4 Hendon.
      My mother was from Hendon. I’m almost certain that my grandmother was part Jewish. She was born in New York. Brought up in Barnet Name ‘Eastman’. Often a way to cover up origins.

      1. My great grand father was Schmidt and my great grand mother was Woolf. I have no idea if i am a nazi or a jew.

      2. A mysterious great-Grandma turned up in Brother’s family investigations. Apparently, an Austrian, surname Borschardt. Nothing but a photo known about her.

      3. Of course traditionally the Jews didn’t have surnames. They used patronymics, so each person was firstname-ben/bat-fathersname. Freeman is a common Ashkenazi name, because it means what it says.

        1. I once knew a family from Hendon who named themselves Frei. Mister’s first name was Moshe. H was one of the children brought to the UK by I believe Schindler. There is a web site set up you will find it on google.
          He was a diamond merchant at Hatten garden, if he is still alive he would be 94 by now. He and his wife were lovely people.

    5. Edward owned a Fox Terrier called Caesar (but known to courtiers, I believe, as “Stinky”). It walked behind his coffin. Fox Terriers don’t seem very common these days. Oscar is usually mistaken for an Airdale! There are two others within a fifteen mile radius. When they meet up people line up to take photos!

      1. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0ac89a6ee57e50b85d2ff70d305cd68ea054f67a2fc9a5bc2586c14997cff7f0.jpg
        When I grew up they were invariably known as wire-haired fox terriers and smooth-haired fox terriers. I’m guessing a new breed at the fox terrier club have decided to simplify the names for modern tastes. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bfc4d4396c6c618f1c37a8f5ddc8fc8159d50d13e73146e4d0fd815d1572e8c6.jpg Dogs 1 and 13 on this page from my encyclopædia show the traditional names.

  22. Good morning all,

    Fine day , no wind , overcast and chilly 6c.

    Moh is playing golf .

    I posted overseas Christmas cards yesterday, each neat card cost £2.20p in postage !

    The great silence here continues .. son and Moh have not spoken here at home in this house for 2 weeks +.

    I am the go between , the atmosphere here is dreadful .

    Moh ‘s role has always been that of the victim, no matter where he has been ..

    A slight is carried heavily.

    1. Sounds awful, Maggie. I know, I too have had to act the go-between – no fun – I empathise.

          1. Bit of a bind.
            Wreaking havoc is soooo satisfying, but at least those sticks get him out of the house.
            Is your flooring made of egg shells?

      1. It started off with a very loud nasty uncivil petty abusive row about which way glasses sit on the draining board , the dishwasher is underneath and the draining board becomes warm so condensation builds up . Son left his glass upright to avoid condensation .

        Moh uses unbelievable language ..

        Son then retorted , accused his father of being a narcissist and a control freak , which is actually quite true .

        4. It must be difficult for you having them living together. Mine both moved out when they went to university and thereafter after returned for short periods, though Edward did live with us for a few years before he went to Switzerland.

        5. Do what a cousin of mine did when she was thoroughly pissed off with her family.

          Turn off the oven, washing machine and washing up machine. Take the dog, get in the car and drive out for the day. Treat yourself (and dog) to lunch. Get home as darkness falls.

          See how they fared while the maid of all work and mediator and arbitrator was out.

        6. The glass upright or upside down was just the end product of something deeper, Maggie, trust me, my daughter is a
          psychologist.
          Go out on the town with a couple of girlfriends. Leave a note that dinner’s in the freezer (or dog).

    4. That is awful for you Belle – refuse to be their go-between, disentangle yourself and let them sort it out (eventually) themselves.

    5. Good morning Maggiebelle

      Siblings seem to fall out.

      We tried to be fair but each of our two said we favoured the other! Green-eyed monster!

      Problem is that one entered adolescence at 14 and is still adolescent in his relationships with the family at the age of 29!

          1. He sounds like a selfish bully that when he doesn’t get his own way he sulks. He has clearly been over indulged.

    7. Is there a particular reason why they aren’t speaking? Usually blokes get angry and then the resulting poor temper comes out as confrontation.

      Can you tell them both to start behaving like adults?

  23. HMS Hebe (J 24)
    Fleet minesweeper (Halcyon)

    Complement:
    110 officers and men (38 dead and 72 survivors).

    On 22nd November 1943, HMS Hebe (J 24) (Lt A.L. Gulvin, RN) struck a mine laid on 11th November by U-453 (Egon Reiner Freiherr von Schlippenbach), while sweeping mines off Bari and sank.

    Type VIIC U-Boat U-453 was sunk on 21st May 1944 in the Ionian Sea north-east of Cape Spartivento by depth charges from the British destroyers HMS Termagent and HMS Tenacious and the British escort destroyer HMS Liddesdale. 1 dead and 51 survivors.

    https://uboat.net/media/allies/warships/br/minesw_hms_hebe_j24.jpg

  24. I am reading a very interesting travel book at the moment , some of you may consider it nerdy , but my goodness , it is fascinating , well written , historical detail and … and recounts early political errors etc , hindsight is a wonderful thing .

    A303: Highway to the Sun by Tom Fort

    Description
    ‘A nostalgic experience, informative, humorous, charming, but pervaded by the bitter-sweet scent of regret’ – Daily Mail

    ‘Fort has an eye for the quirky, the absurd, the pompous and a style that, like the road, is always on the move’ – Sunday Telegraph

    The A303 is more than a road. It is a story. One of the essential routes of English motoring and the road of choice to the West Country for thousands of holidaymakers, the A303 recalls a time when the journey was an adventure and not simply about getting there.

    In this fully revised and updated edition, Tom Fort gives voice to the stories this road has to tell, from the bluestones of Stonehenge, Roman roads and drovers paths to turnpike tollhouses, mad vicars, wicked Earls and solstice seekers, the history, geography and culture of this road tells a story of an English way of life.

    1. A road I’ve travelled many times.

      En route to Corsham or Chippenham from work.

      Turn off and go North of Stonehenge.

      1. I love trawling through charity bookshelves , and always plump for travel books and a few others , maybe some fiction .

        Not keen on murder mystery stuff anymore .

        1. I avoid fiction published after about 2017 now. That’s when the whole ESD stuff got hold of big business like publishers, and all the fiction is suddenly pushing racism, homosexuality and all their other favourite themes.

          4. Yep, if I choose fiction , it is usually old fiction , I haven’t appreciated any thing less than 15 years old .

            Travel , and non fiction .. preferably .

        2. I buy whodunnits for £1; read them remove the price sticker and re-donate them.
          Gives the charities more chance to make money.
          (I only support local charities; none of the big boys.)

          1. I buy biographies (just acquired one of Nelson this afternoon) and factual books. Modern fiction is too woke to be enjoyable.

  25. Smoke and mirrors

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e0030635d00c33b2e2bb5218a7f266919cca5d2ade7044e052de8aa871f5a6d3.png

    If you raise taxes to a level never seen before and then reduce them to a level just a little bit higher than they were at before you raised them you will be able to claim to have made the biggest tax cut ever!

    Will he reduce corporation tax from 25% back to 19% – or will he reduce it to less than 19% or will he claim it is not a business tax and not cut it at all?

    We shall see.

    1. He will do nothing. If he hikes the minn wage he applies a tax on businesses and the receipient as he has frozen the tax bands.

      Nothng short of radical will make any difference and Hunt is not interested in radical. His and Sunak’s masters have told them wha they may fiddle with and it’ll be microscopic tweaks, not real reform.

      2. One think you can be sure of: He will do nothing to lift the income tax burden on single-income households or pensioners.

        1. As a pensioner living in a single-income household I was hit with a double whammy when MOH died; only one pension to live on but I lost the married person’s allowance and had to pay more tax (on less income).

  26. Smoke and mirrors

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e0030635d00c33b2e2bb5218a7f266919cca5d2ade7044e052de8aa871f5a6d3.png

    If you raise taxes to a level never seen before and then reduce them to a level just a little bit higher than they were at before you raised them you will be able to claim to have made the biggest tax cut ever!

    Will he reduce corporation tax from 25% back to 19% – or will he reduce it to less than 19% or will he claim it is not a business tax and not cut it at all?

    We shall see.

  27. A few flowers from back in August to brighten up a dull overcast day:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e4c4b2c3d360a43374e9b74b417f1a6f6d3718fc691be7a23299c3f80d603689.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a24aa46e405b33e439e570ce494963cf7a5dbbc26aa3d643c4d94d2d52b3bd1d.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/05794e87bbf030d47dfd512a23cfed1d1beaee0cebf661fddbfd99e37059634d.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c813f30ed25140bbbb5b4ce804b20e6cd6b301da73d3891b28f78c8ca591f264.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b6cb87e6cff1067594db26eee665f2054f864aa739600732037d468d479d3158.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9e124883958cfa903e1bbabec14ef8fe05f03b5151cb8d8e7eb25615740feac7.jpg

    1. Thank you. I’ve reached the time of year when it’s difficult to imagine flowers enjoying life.

  28. One for ogga:

    illuminatibot
    @iluminatibot
    Voting is the adult version of writing a letter to Santa Claus.

      1. “The previous PM wouldn’t have fitted down the chimney…”

        Are you saying that Liz Truss has a fat arse?

          2. Are feminists demanding the right to bugger?

            Should those who can do so be allowed to play in women’s sport?

  30. Morning, all!

    I am still laughing at myself after what I suspect is my first proper blooper in Spanish. I was out at a dance last night, and remarked to the organiser that it was lovely to see the men enjoying being able.to express themselves (more room to manoeuvre than usual as fewer people turned up).

    Eyes dancing, he told me I meant (the reflexive form of) ‘expresar’ rather than ‘exprimir’.

    I looked up exprimir when I got home. It means to squeeze… so in its reflexive form…. oops!! 🤣🤣

      1. I know, right? What are the chances of me making such an embarrassing mistake whilst talking privately to one sympathetic person, instead of blaring it out in public, as is my wont?

    1. Notice how those opposing the assault are branded ‘far right’? It’s as if killing people based on skin colour is now acceptable – as long as it’s whitey you murder.

      The entire world has gone mad and the political class are to blame. Now it’s affecting them they’re getting annoyed at it. Well, one of your number was stabbed by a gimmigrant. Wasn’t that enough warning of the hell they’ve inflicted on us or did it have to be a cabinet member?

      1. They’ve got to get the words ‘far right’ in there somewhere even (and perhaps especially – all the better!) if it doesn’t make sense.

        2. Whenever they don’t, they are usually supplanted by the equally vacuous terms “hard-Right” and “Extreme-Right”.

  32. Warqueen and I both have the week off. Yesterday was productive wrapping various boxes – Lego, DC motors, bottles of gin and posting such off. Today we thought we’d watch the mission impossible film and slept through it.

    We’re contemplating a wood burner for next years Christmas present.

    We’ve got the company folk over for lunch to laugh at the taxman with some drinking games planned. Believe it or not this is fun for her. She can quote particularly appalling loopholes crafted by officialdom that to her lot are hilarious but to anyone else incomprehensible.

      1. That’s good advice, Bill. What I find weird is that we’re constantly told to insulate more. According to some fellows who put a camera in the walls, we’ve the maximum regulation amount yet… the other evening our bedroom wall was damned cold to the touch. If we could fill th walls up I think the house would be far more livable.

          1. Yes, a fair few. The loft’s insulated pretty well but the walls are not. I don’t understand how we’re told to add more yet can’t.

            There are a couple of window panes that need replacing – they’re on my list but the walls are the weird thing. Why can’t I just ask someone to fill them up with those foam doobries everywhere and go from there? The farm house we moved from had a foot and a bit foot thick walls, so was cool in summer and not so cold in winter. This brick/cavity place just seems to be too cold and then too hot.

          2. Corim may be able to offer professional advice. I understand that it is possible to install external insulation to the walls of a house. I’ve no idea how wise or effective this is nor indeed the cost but I do recall seeing a number of houses being insulated this way.

          3. I have solid brick walls so they can lose heat very easily; I have panelling in the dining room, plasterboard (with a gap) in the kitchen and internal insulated boards in the sitting room. It helps cut down heat loss.

  33. Censorship and cancellation

    This ought to be a golden age of the social sciences.
    The immense reduction in the cost of DNA testing is allowing massive assaults on the most venerable conundrums of nature vs. nurture, such as whether the IQ gap between whites and blacks is smaller in more racially admixed African-Americans as the hereditarian theory would predict, a question that Margaret Mead found worth writing about how to examine a century ago. (Summary answer: yes.)

    The authors argue:
    It may be reasonable to consider potential harms before disseminating science that poses a clear and present danger, when harms are extreme, tangible, and scientifically demonstrable, such as scholarship that increases risks of nuclear war, pandemics, or other existential catastrophes. However, the pursuit of knowledge has a strong track record of improving the human condition.
    Indeed. As the motto of Faber College in Animal House reads, “Knowledge Is Good.”
    Thus, it seems reasonable to balance knowledge risks against the costs of censorship (and resulting ignorance) by creating empirical and transparent measures of purported harms, rather than leaving censorship decisions to the intuitions and authority of small and unrepresentative editorial boards.
    Their basic plan is Moneyball for academic journals. Publications should make available all their data on what they accept and what they reject for other scholars to analyze.
    And researchers should submit bogus proposals to institutional review boards claiming to plan to research discrimination against black women or white men and see which ones get approved, the way that researchers have long submitted fake résumés to employers to find out if Darren Jackson gets more callbacks that D’Quantivious Jackson. (He does.)
    Along those lines, Michael Bernstein and April Bleske-Rechek asked college students if they agreed with hate quotes by anti-Semite Adolf Hitler and by antiwhite Robin DiAngelo, but with their hate objects randomly switched. Over 50 percent of the college students agreed with the ideas of Hitler and DiAngelo when they were framed as defaming whites, but less than 20 percent agreed when they were asked if they agreed with the statements when they were cast as denouncing Jews or blacks.
    Antiwhite hate is a huge and growing topic for brave social scientists to investigate.

    https://www.takimag.com/article/halting-the-pursuit-of-knowledge/

    1. It is sad that by default science is never happy. Never convinced. It is merely a collection of data to support a guess. We live in an age when real science has been surplanted with propaganda based upon who pays most. I know it has always been that way but to see science perverted just to justify tax hikes is obscene.

    2. I’m struggling to recall when and why “harm” (generally used in the singular) morphed into “harms”. And “behaviours”.

      1. Perhaps it was when the Woke realised that the more victims they can find the more causes of victimisation that are needed.
        EDIT for first missing “more”

  34. I see the usual letters about winter fuel payments are popping up and whether those who perhaps don’t need it should donate it to charity and there are those who say it should be added to the state pension so that taxpayers pay tax on it. What are the Nottler views?
    I’ve just given all mine to Alzheimers Scotland

          1. It seems to have just turned up! They wrote and told me I qualified, and I didn’t have to do anything!

  36. Re that murder of a teenager in Crépol, France. The Fail (and other papers) refer to the event taking place “at a village ball“.

    It was NOT a “ball” – it was a village dance in a place with a population just over 200.

    “Ball” suggests ladies in long frocks and gents in white tie and tails – rather like the sort of event Ashes goes to regularly!!!!!

    1. Strange that some suspects were captured in Toulouse.
      It’s a very long way to go for a jolly knife out with friends. There’s likely a lot more to this one than is being let on.

  37. Remember this weirdo? Un vrai ballon bizarre!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5d51546327febe6674e7f901e491acb36afdb6b17af16ea82392eace20b6bd79.png
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/11/21/rory-stewart-ex-prisons-minister-reform-needed-conservative/

    He ran to be the leader of the Conservative Party in 2019 but he was too odd a ball even for this Dysfunctional group of idiots!

    He is now making venomous cocktails with Alistair Campbell.

  38. Remember this weirdo? Un vrai ballon bizarre!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5d51546327febe6674e7f901e491acb36afdb6b17af16ea82392eace20b6bd79.png
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/11/21/rory-stewart-ex-prisons-minister-reform-needed-conservative/

    He ran to be the leader of the Conservative Party in 2019 but he was too odd a ball even for this Dysfunctional group of idiots!

    He is now making venomous cocktails with Alistair Campbell.

  39. Mizzy goes to jail (but not for long enough nor for the correct reason).

    TikToker Mizzy jailed as judge gives verdict on his pranks: ‘they’re not funny’

    Social media star sentenced to 18 weeks detention for breaching court order prohibiting him from sharing videos without consent

    By Telegraph Reporters • 21 November 2023 • 6:39pm

    TikToker Mizzy has been told his pranks “are not funny” by a judge as he was jailed for the first time.

    The social media star, whose real name is Bacari-Bronze O’Garro, was found guilty of two counts of breaching a court order prohibiting him from sharing videos of people without their consent at his trial last month.

    In one of the offending videos, passersby were visible in the background as Mizzy said to the camera: “The UK law is a joke.”

    At Stratford Magistrates’ Court on Tuesday, Judge Matthew Bone sentenced him to 18 weeks detention in a young offender institution and told him: “Put bluntly, your pranks are not funny.”

    In mitigation, Paul Lennon, O’Garro’s lawyer, said he was a “young man” and had shown a “lack of maturity”.

    O’Garro is completing a creative media production course at a sixth form college, and started a job as a waiter in a restaurant earlier this week, Mr Lennon said.

    “He is very academic and is predicted to achieve a distinction,” he added. “He is making attempts to better himself.”

    Speaking after the hearing, DCI Yasmin Lalani, of the Met Police, said: “I just think it is appropriate when you have disregard for the law. I think it is a fitting sentence and I hope that he gets some help.

    “I think it is a loud and clear message that nobody is above the law and that you have got to be held accountable.

    “I think the right result has come through, more for the public as well, because I think the community were upset with the lack of respect for the law of the country and the distress and harassment he was causing, it was a blatant disregard for the harassment and distress for the community.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/21/tiktok-prankster-mizzy-jailed-social-media-consent

    1. The BBC wrote this; “The judge also “strengthened” the star’s social media ban, ruling that he could not share any videos, act with others to share videos or contribute to other people’s social media accounts for two years.”

      FFS!

  40. Mizzy goes to jail (but not for long enough nor for the correct reason).

    TikToker Mizzy jailed as judge gives verdict on his pranks: ‘they’re not funny’

    Social media star sentenced to 18 weeks detention for breaching court order prohibiting him from sharing videos without consent

    By Telegraph Reporters • 21 November 2023 • 6:39pm

    TikToker Mizzy has been told his pranks “are not funny” by a judge as he was jailed for the first time.

    The social media star, whose real name is Bacari-Bronze O’Garro, was found guilty of two counts of breaching a court order prohibiting him from sharing videos of people without their consent at his trial last month.

    In one of the offending videos, passersby were visible in the background as Mizzy said to the camera: “The UK law is a joke.”

    At Stratford Magistrates’ Court on Tuesday, Judge Matthew Bone sentenced him to 18 weeks detention in a young offender institution and told him: “Put bluntly, your pranks are not funny.”

    In mitigation, Paul Lennon, O’Garro’s lawyer, said he was a “young man” and had shown a “lack of maturity”.

    O’Garro is completing a creative media production course at a sixth form college, and started a job as a waiter in a restaurant earlier this week, Mr Lennon said.

    “He is very academic and is predicted to achieve a distinction,” he added. “He is making attempts to better himself.”

    Speaking after the hearing, DCI Yasmin Lalani, of the Met Police, said: “I just think it is appropriate when you have disregard for the law. I think it is a fitting sentence and I hope that he gets some help.

    “I think it is a loud and clear message that nobody is above the law and that you have got to be held accountable.

    “I think the right result has come through, more for the public as well, because I think the community were upset with the lack of respect for the law of the country and the distress and harassment he was causing, it was a blatant disregard for the harassment and distress for the community.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/21/tiktok-prankster-mizzy-jailed-social-media-consent

  41. He’s at it again.

    Gary Lineker endorses video that accuses Israel of ‘textbook genocide’

    BBC Match of The Day broadcaster under fire after sharing interview by the journalist Owen Jones online

    By Dominic Penna, POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT • 21 November 2023 • 8:12pm

    Gary Lineker has endorsed a video by journalist Owen Jones in which an academic accuses Israel of “genocide” and dismisses comparisons between Hamas and the Nazis.

    The Match of the Day presenter shared a tweet by Mr Jones, a columnist with the Guardian, of his interview with Raz Segal, an Israeli-American historian, and added the caption: “Worth 13 minutes of anyone’s time.”

    In his conversation with Jones, Prof Segal – an associate professor of the Holocaust and genocide studies at Stockton University – attacks the Israeli military response to the Oct 7 terror attacks carried out by Hamas.

    “I do think that what we’re seeing in front of our eyes is a textbook case of genocide,” he said.

    While describing Oct 7 as “horrendous”, Prof Segal downplayed comparisons between Hamas and the Nazis, arguing that the persecution of Jews during the Second World War had a “very different context” from “Palestinians … [living] for decades under Israeli settler colonial rule”.

    Stephen Pollard, the editor-at-large of the Jewish Chronicle, accused Lineker of “universe-bending ignorance”, while Greg Smith, the Conservative MP for Buckingham, said: “It is inconceivable any right-minded person would give that video the time of day.”

    Lineker has previously called for a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas, backing the pro-Palestinian protesters who marched through London on Armistice Day.

    The 62-year-old broadcaster briefly stepped back from hosting Match of the Day in March after comparing language used by Suella Braverman, then home secretary, to “Germany in the 30s”. After he was reinstated by the BBC, Lineker vowed to continue airing his political opinions on social media

    Last month, the Guardian was criticised by the Board of Deputies of British Jews after publishing a piece by Prof Segal entitled: “Israel must stop weaponising the Holocaust”.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/21/bbc-lineker-israel-hamas-textbook-genocide-raz-segal

      2. I imagine he thinks he is righteous in what he is saying but simply doesn’t understand (and I don’t pretend to either) the complexities involved. He like most, wants goodies and baddies.

    2. The only genocide in history where the victim class grows instead of diminishing. My copy of Mark Twain’s The Innocents Abroad, about his travels in Europe and The Holy Land in the 1860s, arrived yesterday. I plan on it being my Christmas holiday reading.

    1. Why not send them to an island some 50 miles of the coast of Wales. We could build it from floatng pontoons. When it’s full jet wash it and add more.

  44. Was Johnson got at?

    Boris may be one of the few politicians to come out of the Covid inquiry with any credit

    He was right that the scientists got many things wrong

    CARL HENEGHAN, TOM JEFFERSON • 21 November 2023 • 6:20pm

    In his testimony to the Covid Inquiry, the Chief Scientific Adviser was scathing about Boris Johnson. As a classics graduate, the Prime Minister couldn’t understand what he was told – he was “clearly bamboozled”.

    The Chief Medical Officer, Chris Whitty, in his evidence today was less critical. He said the operation around the PM was “chaotic”, but how he made decisions was “unique to him”, and he believed other governments faced similar issues.

    Vallance said that Johnson was confused and often changed his mind, and his testimony highlighted his discontentment with the approach of Johnson. Yet, a lack of decisiveness is not a sin; Boris was trying to understand an extensive array of evidence and doomsday modellers’ scenarios. He seemed flexible in his thinking and responded to emerging evidence.

    And he was hardly the only one to change his mind. Dame Jenny Harries told the Telegraph that next time round, Britain might be more like Sweden. Early on during the pandemic, she said face coverings were not a good idea for the public because they could “trap the virus” and spread it further. She then flipped. Again, in March 2020, mass testing was considered “unnecessary” by Harries. She again flipped.

    Vallance also seems to have forgotten that he sparked major controversy when, in March 2020, he said the government aimed to “build up some kind of herd immunity so more people are immune to this disease”.

    Love or loathe him; it is starting to look like Boris’s position was quite sensible in the face of chaos. For example, Johnson wanted to know if infection numbers translated into deaths, suggesting that infection curves follow a “natural pattern” regardless of the interventions implemented.

    In the face of a SAGE committee lacking the skills to take a broader outlook, Boris showed a rare willingness to question whether lockdown was a favourable policy or if there were risks. Whitty said he was more focused than others advising the government on the indirect health impacts – highlighting that restricting freedoms has effects on mental health, education and well-being among others. But over time, the “following the science” mantra became a millstone around the necks of the necks of advisers, said Whitty.

    If this inquiry has shown anything, it’s that the idea decisions should have been left to the experts is wrong; science, economics, and politics must all be considered. And as for Boris, he emerges with some credit. He was right that the scientists got many things wrong, like the death graphs and the catastrophic predictions of modellers. He was right to question everything. And he was right to try to think his way through the blind panic affecting those around him.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/21/boris-johnson-covid-inquiry-carl-heneghan/

      2. They tried to bamboozle him with pseudo-science, pretending it was the real thing, and he was too lazy to questions.

        Edit: There were people out there willing to advise truthfully and correctly, but the entire cabal did not want to know. Also Johnson’s family background is steeped in eugenics which is concerning. See his DT October 2007 article – it can still be found on the internet.

    2. If he was incapable of understanding “the science”, surely it was THEIR job to explain it to him and to ensure that he DID understand it?

      I don’t imagine Churchill knew much about the science involved in WW2 – but Frederick Cherwell was able to explain it to him….

      1. Spot on. It was their failing, not his. When my installer asks why he’s drawing 10 strands not 4 I tell him. When the customer asks where the additional costs come from, I tell him. These wasters are just doing what they did during the pandemic – trying to avoid telling the truth for personal gain.

    3. I don’t believe it’s a state of not understanding because he has a classics degree. I’ve a degree in classics. I imagine that the information he was given was contrary, flustered, incoherent and politically guided to suit the individuals at the time, all looking to cover themselves in glory or backsides in copper.

      When you’re surrounded by fools you make foolish decisions and nothing typifies statists more than their venality.

        1. That’s the purpose of the inquiry though, surely? To find someone and something to blame except those responsible. No doubt it’ll be Brexit and Johnson. Neither can do anything about it nor punish those really responsible, while the truly guilty can walk off into the sunset with peerages all round.

  45. One video hour conversation between Parallel Mike and fund manager Lawrence Lepard about the state of the financial system and where it is likely to go next. The last ten minutes is particularly interesting where Mr Lepard sums up and gives his conclusions.
    He thinks the scenario in The Great Taking is possible, but unlikely – only because he thinks that “the guys in charge” aren’t capable of organising it and carrying it through!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DJiO6gSXlo

  47. Proper winter may finally be on its way.

    I’ve just seen a couple of V’s of cranes flying over, perhaps 200 birds.
    The first I’ve seen this year, normally they start flying past in Mid October.

    1. Our common cranes were flying over during mid-to-late October. They do make numerous stops at favoured watering holes, so they may just be reaching your area.

      We do have a few pairs breeding locally each year, as well as a few pairs of white storks.

      1. They seldom land near us but normally over the migration period we see or hear thousands upon thousands.
        I’ve just come in from the garden and saw a few dozen, I’m expecting it to become busier over the next few days, we shall see.

  48. 378983+ up ticks,

    Not only sunak but to ALL current lab/lib/con political hierarchy, members, voters,

    Dt,
    Get a grip Rishi, Britain is not a hotel for immigrants – it is our home.

    Shape up then SHIP OUT.

  49. I see the autumn statement contains absolutely no tax changes whatsoever and continues government meddling in the economy.

    The Warqueen pointed out that while you can now open multiple ISAs, you can’t put any more into them, rather defeating the point. In addition, as banks continue to suppress ISA rates in return for profits there’s no value in doing so.

    She’s also looked at the ‘enterprise’ zone farce and from the laughter I assume it’s equally offensive. The state doesn’t really want growth. It likes high tax, big state socialism. Any other conclusion is a lie.

    1. So the joke in the cracker (predicted by Matt) was the best part then?
      Barstewards!
      Have always despised Hunt ever since university, he was a patronising a*le then.

      1. It is staggering to see how distorted society has become. The state keeps taking from the worker and gives it to the shirker, then, when costs soar they hike taxes again and again and give it to the wasters.

        This is socialism and it does not work. Government meddling is just chaotic idiocy. So much could and should have been done to course correct and instead Hunt decides to bash another panel out.

        What bothers is people keep banging on for government to ‘do more’. Why should it? Instead, stop doing things. Stop meddling. Stop fiddling. Leave us alone and markets will do their job and everyone will get better off.

          1. The accountants are poring through the details and finding endless gotchas. The drinking went very well with 5 bottles of this Petrus gone through by the 7 of us!

            Being designated driver and not really a drinker myself, I’ve stuck to orange juice.

      1. I cannot believe welfare going up by 7%. That’s higher than we get working. I’m utterly sick of this reward the wasters, support the foreigners.

        An investment in combating anti semitisim… stop importing bloody muslims!

        1. That is going to annoy everyone who didn’t get 7% this year, which is pretty much everyone.

  50. Whatever bollox Jeremy Rhyming has come up with – it is all smoke and mirrors.

    Nothing takes effect for several years and by next Spring the Tories will have been swept out of sight.

    1. If he does announce these changes they will make almost no difference whatsoever. A chum has a small translation and English as a foreign language business in Yorkshire and couldn’t claim for any of the things the supposed enterprise zone offers. She doesn’t make enough, nothing on offer helps her as it is heavily controlled what it can be spent on and she doesn’t need any of it.

      As usual it will go into council coffers and never get to help anyone. As usual, the oaf has chosen to make life harder and more complicated for some and crow about it rather than just doing the right thing and cutting taxes for all.

  51. THE OBSERVER

    Fifteen government departments have been monitoring the social media activity of potential critics and compiling “secret files” in order to block them from speaking at public events, according to an investigation by the Observer.

    Under the guidelines issued in each department, including the departments of health, culture, media and sport, and environment, food and rural affairs, officials are advised to check experts’ Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and LinkedIn accounts. They are also told to conduct Google searches on those individuals, using specific terms such as “criticism of government or prime minister”.

    The guidelines are designed to prevent anyone who has criticised the government in the previous three to five years from speaking at government-organised conferences and other events.

    Back in October, it emerged that the Department for Education tried to cancel invitations for three early-childhood education experts to speak at government-funded events because they were judged to have been critical of government policy. Many more education experts and school staff have since uncovered files of their critical social media posts held by the department.

    However, it has now become clear that the practice is widespread across government and is probably targeting large numbers of individuals. The scale of the monitoring was uncovered by human rights experts at law firm Leigh Day.

    Earlier this year, chemical weapons expert Dan Kaszeta was disinvited from giving a keynote speech at a UK defence conference after officials found social media posts criticising Tory ministers and government immigration policy.

    Several pre-action letters and a formal apology from the conference organisers later, Mr Kaszeta, who spent 12 years advising the White House, had unearthed two interesting details about the rationale behind the government’s social media monitoring: first, that according to a policy that has never been released publicly (despite a promise to deposit it in the Commons Library), Cabinet Office officials have the right to look at five years’ worth of social media postings as part of its vetting policy for external speakers at government-run events; and second, that a further 15 Whitehall departments and ministries have, or had, similar “due diligence policies”.

    In a written statement, Cabinet Office Minister Jeremy Quin explained that the guidance had originally been developed to help civil servants avoid issuing speaking invitations to individuals with “extremist views”, but conceded that it was no longer being used in the way it was originally intended, and could now be having “adverse unintended consequences”.

    Faced with some potentially rather awkward questions about possible breaches of the Equality Act 2010, which prohibits belief discrimination, the government has now withdrawn all 16 policies for review.

    Worth reading in full.

    https://www.theguardian.com/…/shocking-scale-of-uk…

    #publicpolicy #FreedomOfExpression #universities #universitiesinuk #woke #FreeSpeechMatters #censorship #religiousfreedom #cancelculture #cancelcultureistoxic #wokemob #freedomofspeech #FreeSpeechUnion #censorshipisreal #FreeSpeech

    1. Is the guardian annoyed at this – because it might embarrass the govenrment – or angry, because it hasn’t embarrassed the government? I’d bet in neither case they’ve actually asked why this process has gone on (as it was started by Labour) and the problems this causes for democracy (because that would raise questions of censorship and suppression, two things Lefties love).

    2. “…possible breaches of the Equality Act 2010, which prohibits belief discrimination…”

      This is absurd in itself, as though it is possible to ‘protect’ ideas and opinions. Under the act, ‘protected characteristics’ are age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage and civil partnership, pregnancy and maternity, race, religion or belief, sex, and sexual orientation. This is Harriet Harman’s minefield, one of the most corrosive, subversive and divisive pieces of legislation ever passed. The state of mind that it has created is illustrated in this programme (don’t listen to it all – it’s tedious), The 93% Club: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001r7r6

      The ‘club’ is an association for the 93% of undergraduates who were not privately educated. Its purpose is ‘to challenge the old boys network and repurpose it to change society and tackle social immobility’. One of the participants suggested that social class should be added to the Equality Act as a protected characteristic.

    3. “…possible breaches of the Equality Act 2010, which prohibits belief discrimination…”

      This is absurd in itself, as though it is possible to ‘protect’ ideas and opinions. Under the act, ‘protected characteristics’ are age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage and civil partnership, pregnancy and maternity, race, religion or belief, sex, and sexual orientation. This is Harriet Harman’s minefield, one of the most corrosive, subversive and divisive pieces of legislation ever passed. The state of mind that it has created is illustrated in this programme (don’t listen to it all – it’s tedious), The 93% Club: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001r7r6

      The ‘club’ is an association for the 93% of undergraduates who were not privately educated. Its purpose is ‘to challenge the old boys network and repurpose it to change society and tackle social immobility’. One of the participants suggested that social class should be added to the Equality Act as a protected characteristic.

  53. Sergeant William Gregg VC DCM MM (27th January 1890 – 10th August 1969), 13th Battalion, The Rifle Brigade (Prince Consort’s Own).
    .
    He received the Military Medal on 26th March 1917, for crawling between the opposing lines under the eyes of the enemy to establish the identity of a dead German soldier. On 26th November 1917, for carrying messages between different sections of his battalion while under heavy machine gun fire, he received the Distinguished Conduct Medal.
    Finally on 8th May 1918 at Bucquoy, France, when all the officers of Sergeant Gregg’s company had been hit during an attack on an enemy outpost, he took command, rushing two enemy posts, killing some of the gun teams, taking prisoners and capturing a machine-gun. He then started to consolidate his position until driven back by a counter-attack, but as reinforcements had by now come up, he led a charge, personally bombed a hostile machine-gun, killed the crew and captured the gun. When driven back again, he led another successful attack and held on to his position until ordered to withdraw.
    Within the 13th Bn, Sergeant Gregg established a great reputation as a fighting soldier. One of his platoon Corporals said of him: “He was completely fearless. He came through action after action unscathed. In fact, he went looking for trouble, particularly at night in No-Mans-Land, observing and searching for information of value. Indeed, a fine fighting man and one we would follow anywhere.”

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  54. Splendid.
    I’ve been splitting a few logs taken from a fallen plum tree which had a rotten centre. I found an overwintering queen Asian hornet nestling in the heart of some rot, I was pleased to dispatch it.

      2. PS if it was a wasp it’s been taking steroids and doing one Hell of a lot of body building, it was nearly two inches long and big with it.

  55. Holy Smoke.
    Just been reading about the Yorks’ latest financial and social shenanigans.
    They appear to have absolutely no radar when it comes to dodgy money.
    They are complete vulgarians.

      1. Are you insinuating that i can tolerate such a diabolical impertinence from one whose mental capacity is diminishing or should i just say ‘yes’ ?

      1. A typical lefty nit-pick.
        The prediction was fairly accurate, all things taken into consideration.

    1. Is that Michael Mosley’s Intermittent fasting diet..

      Doctor swears by the Intermittent fasting regime .. My doctor says it is all about giving the gut a rest , instead of coffee , he recommends Bovril in hot water , and more Bovril during the day, loads of cooked vegetables etc.

  60. A busy day, so we drove back from Bakewell in the dark – luckily something I don’t do that often. It was amazing how many drivers “forgot” to dip their headlights, and how many headlights seemed to be badly adjusted anyway!

    1. I often find that lights are shining straight into my eyes, yet they are dipped, as I discover when I flick mine at the oncoming car and they respond with full beam.
      And yes, I know that that can be dangerous, but if others also flash them at least it informs the other driver their lights need adjusting.

    2. So many cars seem to have very bright headlights nowadays. And don’t get me started on cyclists with their dazzling LED headlights on the pavement and bike lanes! They can’t dip them and dazzle pedestrians. I almost trod on a small child on a bike last year, because he was on the pavement, and his dad was on the adjacent bike lane with a super-bright headlight – I didn’t even realise there was a small bicycle as well until it was under my feet.

        1. I’m fed up with being dazzled on the pavement as a pedestrian. One after another coming towards you on the bike lane with LED headlights, you can’t see a thing.

          2. Batter still attach a small plank of wood to the front of said trolley on which is mounted two illuminated headlights. Wear a revolving blue flashing light on head and frighten the bejazus out of the cyclists!

          4. Having seen it done in a blacked out theatre you would think a police car had been driven on stage!

          5. I’ve witnessed a similar trick with lots of miners’ lamps on a board and the playing of a recording of the male voice choir. Round here, though, police cars (especially ones who would do anything about cyclists on footpaths) are rarer than hen’s teeth.

    3. I missed my left turn a few nights ago simply because, although I knew it was there, I couldn’t see the opening due to the oncoming car with headlights full on, blazing away despite having been flashed to remind him to dip. I had to go the long way round.

  62. That’s me gone. Grey and dreary all day – all the weather was no better.

    Have a spiffing evening.

    A demain.

  63. Heads up.

    MoH has just converted our Nectar points to a monetary voucher double the value of the points to be spent at Sainsbury’s. Probably enough to buy a case of plonk! Every little helps!

    1. Good news.
      They used to have more value though.
      Triple points then doubled for a voucher to spend at other retailers and i got a dining table and bathroom cabinet.
      ….In other news. My local mini co-op staff always comment on how much i have on my card…I say i’m saving up for Christmas but then i just spend it at this time of year on booze instead to bring the amount down to their points…… :@(

  64. Let’s get this straight.

    Hamas has condescended to release 50 women and children in exchange for 4 days to regroup and an influx of 150 terrorists who will doubtless take up arms immediately.

    And this is supposedly a good thing.

    Doesn’t that just show you how warped the world has become?

    1. No. It shows me how you don’t know how to play poker.
      Fancy a game? I’ll leave you your shirt.

      1. Don’t bet on that.

        I started playing poker aged eleven, learned about odds, tells and bluffing.
        My teacher was a hustler with the USAAF.
        I can do the arithmetic as second nature.
        Best, but from your side of the cards worst, I am incredibly lucky.

        And it’s that last trait that you should worry about, by comparison the rest are irrelevant.

        1. I am impressed. No, Really ! If i ever thought we would get to play i wouldn’t want to give you an advantage you don’t believe you already have. Something to look forward to.

          Luck is what you make it.

          2. If we are not at crossed posts or wires then no you do not get luckier. I think it is a frame of mind. If you feel lucky you will be. If you lie to yourself about being lucky or wishing it you won’t be. Some people seem to have luck. Others don’t.

          3. It was meant to refer to “luck” in making money. I am one of nature’s losers when it comes to games of chance or raffles/draws. One lunch I attended had 12 prizes for 13 guests. No prizes (literally) for guessing I was the one who missed out.

          4. Raffles and draws i seem to be lucky at but you seem to have had some horsey winners which is another thing entirely.

          5. None of that is down to me – horse, trainer and jockey do that! I suppose I’ve been lucky in the horses (and trainers) I have chosen.

          6. I no longer bet on card games, the worst I do is buy raffle tickets and the like.
            I once played three card brag open discard with a group on payday.
            Three of us clearly had excellent hands but I knew from the discards of those who had thrown in that my three tens was unbeatable. They clearly were not going to back down so I told them they couldn’t win and why.
            One guy had a one two three on the bounce and the other a middle straight flush, two hands either of which would normally win most games.
            I just didn’t have the heart to clear them of a weeks wages, which is how it was going.

          7. Weakness. You should have cleared them out to teach them a life lesson. If you felt sorry for them AFTER you could have slipped the money back to them at a later date.

          1. Erm…You sure about that? No…scrub that..you’re right…sent from someone elses phone from the carribean…

          2. It’s the title of John Francome’s autobiography (he was Champion Jumps Jockey many times – but not as many as AP McCoy).

    1. In case you haven’t already done so perhaps a good time to empty your butts before they crack…..

  67. Rhyming slang needs to learn that not taking as much of the taxpayers” money is NOT the same as giving money back.

    2. I suspect he saved the really popular suggestions, such as reducing /scrapping IHT / Stamp duty for his pre-election Spring give away Budget….

      1. He should do a Gordon Brown.
        Slip in a tax drop that if it’s raised can be used to hammer Labour in the same way as the higher band was added by Brown, knowing the Conservatives dare not touch it for fear of being accused of favouring the rich..

          1. I wonder if they do actually think they can win the next general election. I know all the usual crap about being low in the polls and the oppo’s being unelectable but when they bring back people like cameron will people still vote for them? it wouldn’t surprise me if Boris and Theresa were in the next Labour cabinet.

  68. Night All

    codeine haze,quiz tonight should be fun………

    Mini Medley

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          2. You heartless beast ! At least that’s what i said to the last one i had to dispose of without the neighbours noticing. flush flush flush !

    3. I had a similar thought to the concentration camp one this afternoon when I walked past the chemist and saw the line of people waiting to be jabbed.

      1. There are two presumptions here. One is that they are aware of doubts about the efficacy and safety of the Covid-19 vaccines and the other is that they believe them.

          1. My presumption is that they don’t know.

            Our government didn’t improve matters with all their interdepartmental infighting to put themselves on top of the heap. Now that heap turns out to be old bodies they are again fighting like rats in a sack.

          1. Fair enough. I could see it was Joseph but when I hovered over “my” downvote, it refused to show anything. I didn’t want to downvote myself to try to get the name.

  70. 4 again today.

    Wordle 886 4/6

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    1. Me too.

      Wordle 886 4/6

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        1. Like this?

          Wordle 886 3/6

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          Mind you, I had a six and out recently.

    2. Me to.

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    1. I watched it when it first came out. I thought it was an excellent drama series and, as a result, I have re-watched it since on iPlayer.

    4. Well into the 2nd episode. Enjoying it. Less cerebral than TTSS and S’s People but very well made.

    1. Was it Far Right people blowing themselves up or persons of a Trans persuasion because they are not allowed to kill other ice hockey players?

          2. Okay. Four teenage boys die in a car crash on a dark stormy night not long after one of them gets mobile. One of the others lies to his mum about what they are doing. An old story.

            There are a multitude of warning flags before the event.
            Middle class parents enabling blah blah blah.
            And no…I can’t be bothered because it is an old story.

            And not the last time it happens.

          3. Err
            What’s the connection with terrorists?
            The story of the boys was dreadful, but they didn’t set out to harm others, the (alleged) Muslims with their (alleged) car full of explosives certainly did.

      2. The sadest part about that was someone had to clear up the mess.
        I expect my friend in Toronto might be in touch later.

      1. The itv news weren’t keen to take a guess as to who were the guilty party.
        But we all ready knew. By the pattern of attack.

        1. Strange how all these journalists are so confused about who the guilty party might be unless it happens to be a white person. Before that they always highlight they were a French or nationality of your choice citizens never mentioning they were new arrivals.
          I think we know what is going on here.

  74. I guess I’m going to still hand over the same amount of cash to a bunch of feckless globalists so they can spaff it all over a load of third world savages?

    3. Same old same old give it with one hand take it with the other.
      They made such a complete mess of our country. It’s all they have.

    4. You’ll be lucky if you aren’t handing over even more. I’m sure there’ll be a stealth tax hidden away somewhere.

    1. Not a good Standard of reporting. If they wish to increase standards of hygiene all they need to do is close every ethnic ‘restaurant’ ..all the kebab houses and the chicken shops. Trouble is…that would cause rioting and extreme shopping.

  76. Evening, all. I doubt the Chancellor has a clue how to save us from massive debt. He’d never consider slimming down the state. I see Sunak and Starmer have jumped on the virtue signalling bandwagon by paying tribute to four people they had never heard of (and certainly never knew) before yesterday. Shrewsbury is awash with candles and the Christmas lights switch on has been postponed. The only person (‘Twas not I, but someone who’d worked as a police liaison officer) to have mentioned BTL that the reaction was a trifle OTT got a roasting as “insensitive”. How on earth did we win WW2?

    1. You guys have nothing to complain about compared to the shit storm that Canada has become.

      Canadian Debt payments are forecast to be higher than healthcare payments next year and they are still increasing spending and running a deficit. Military spending is going down a billion as well, obviously there is peace and love in the world.

  80. There are certain Arch Bishops who could take a leaf out of this man’s book, a big hero of mine. A man who cared for the men in his charge.

    Reverend Theodore Bayley Hardy, VC, DSO, MC (20th October 1863 – 18th October 1918), attached 8th Battalion, The Lincolnshire Regiment.

    First he was awarded the Distinguished Service Order (DSO) on 18th October 1917, the full citation was published on 7th March 1918:

    Rev. Theodore Bayley Hardy, A. Chaplains Dept.
    For conspicuous gallantry and devotion to duty in volunteering to go with a rescue party for some men who had been left stuck in the mud the previous night between the enemy’s outpost line and our own. All the men except one were brought in. He then organised a party for the rescue of this man, and remained with it all night, though under rifle-fire at close range, which killed one of the party. With his left arm in splints, owing to a broken wrist, and under the worst weather conditions, he crawled out with patrols to within seventy yards of the enemy and remained with wounded men under heavy fire.

     London Gazette.

    This was followed by the Military Cross (MC) on 17th December 1917, the citation following on 23rd April 1918:

    Rev, Theodore Bayley Hardy, D.S.O., A., Chaplain’s Dept.
    For conspicuous gallantry and devotion to duty in tending the wounded. The ground on which he worked was constantly shelled and the casualties were heavy. He continually assisted in finding and carrying wounded and in guiding stretcher bearers to the aid post.

     London Gazette.

    Finally came the VC on 7th July 1918:

    Reverend Theodore Bayley Hardy, D.S.O., M.C., T./C.F., 4th Class, A. Chaplains Dept., attd. Lincs. R.

    For most conspicuous bravery and devotion to duty on many occasions. Although over fifty years of age, he has, by his fearlessness, devotion to men of his battalion, and quiet, unobtrusive manner, won the respect and admiration of the whole division. His marvellous energy and endurance would be remarkable even in a very much younger man, and his valour and devotion are exemplified in the following incidents:

    An infantry patrol had gone out to attack a previously located enemy post in the ruins of a village, the Reverend Theodore Bayley Hardy (C.F.) being then at company headquarters. Hearing firing, he followed the patrol, and about four hundred yards beyond our front line of posts found an officer of the patrol dangerously wounded. He remained with the officer until he was able to get assistance to bring him in. During this time there was a great deal of firing, and an enemy patrol actually penetrated between the spot at which the officer was lying and our front line and captured three of our men.
    On a second occasion, when an enemy shell exploded in the middle of one of our posts, the Reverend T. B. Hardy at once made his way to the spot, despite the shell and trench mortar fire which was going on at the time, and set to work to extricate the buried men. He succeeded in getting out one man who had been completely buried. He then set to work to extricate a second man, who was found to be dead.
    During the whole of the time that he was digging out the men this chaplain was in great danger, not only from shell fire, but also because of the dangerous condition of the wall of the building which had been hit by the shell which buried the men.
    On a third occasion he displayed the greatest devotion to duty when our infantry, after a successful attack, were gradually forced back to their starting trench.
    After it was believed that all our men had withdrawn from the wood, Chaplain Hardy came out of it, and on reaching an advanced post asked the men to help him to get in a wounded man. Accompanied by a serjeant, he made his way to the spot where the man lay, within ten yards of a pill-box which had been captured in the morning, but was subsequently recaptured and occupied by the enemy. The wounded man was too weak to stand, but between them the chaplain and the serjeant eventually succeeded in getting him to our lines.
    Throughout the day the enemy’s artillery, machine-gun, and trench mortar fire was continuous, and caused many casualties.
    Notwithstanding, this very gallant chaplain was seen moving quietly amongst the men and tending the wounded, absolutely regardless of his personal safety.

    London Gazette

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      1. He was born 20th October 1863, and he was wounded in action when again trying to tend to the wounded and died a week later in Rouen, France, on 18th October 1918, two days before his 55th birthday.

        1. I always tend regard the clergy, the medics and the stretcher bearers, who didn’t bear arms, as the bravest of the brave.

  81. I sometimes wonder what Dr Jordan Peterson would make of the exchanges on NottL. Perhaps we should ask him?

    1. I doubt that he would see them unadulterated after they had been curated. Much like what he has to say.

    2. In one recent video posted on here, he spoke about how the ‘woke’ culture is ‘eating away at the centre from the fringe’. While the breakdown of the family has been with us for much longer than we’ve known about Dr Petersen and modern trans-mania, he made a telling observation about this, namely that the record of the nuclear family in raising well-adjusted, successful individuals is its vice. In Wokeworld, no one should be allowed to have a good life as a result of something so oppressive. It creates victims of those who choose not to be part of it, or cannot be, or for whom it fails (as some marriages sadly do). The family must be made redundant; it is inherently unfair. It must be surrounded by hostile forces.

      This is the old socialist economic prejudice transferred to other cultural arrangements: “If all cannot have it, none shall have it.”

      1. As the family unit weakens, street culture and gangs take over to provide a ‘family’ and rules of the house, which are rigidly enforced. This structure provides willing workers for whatever business the leader is engaged in. In the US, 50% of black children are in single parent households, I couldn’t find a recent UK figure.

    1. According to the Beeb:

      Veteran anti-Islam populist leader Geert Wilders is heading for a dramatic victory in the the Dutch general election, says an Ipsos exit poll.
      After 25 years in the Dutch parliament, his Freedom party is heading for 35 seats, according to the poll, well ahead of his nearest rival, a left-wing alliance.
      If confirmed the result will shake Dutch politics.

        1. And their lunatic agricultural policies designed to increase the potential profits of the largest farmland owner in the US.

    2. Good grief! That is amazing!

      Edit – I realise I have a smile on my face of its own accord!

    3. Good grief! That is amazing!

      Edit – I realise I have a smile on my face of its own accord!

  83. One of the benefits of MoH baking 120 mince pies for the forthcoming Village Quiz night is that I get to scoff the rejects! Delicious

      1. I’ll post a photo of one (if there are any) in the next batch of 40+ due to be baked on Saturday!

        1. I strongly suspect it would be something along the lines of:
          “Well, the caster sugar is clearly not central….”

          1. Close but not that anally retentive. More like the mincemeat (doused with 20year old armagnac) has erupted from the pastry casing!

          2. Oh the Humanity!
            I find it really quite noble of you to make such a sacrifice in the name of perfection.

          3. I do my bit now and again. Only this week I put up an additional book shelf in the local primary school library FOC. (If that doesn’t deserve an OBE I don’t know what does!

  84. I’m going to love you and leave you. Bridge tomorrow. Exciting day as I shall be playing with my new partner and I want to be on the top of my game for her!

    1. Right you are Sir. When do you need evac or do we just bomb the site from orbit? Or is that a bridge too far?

  85. G’night all.
    Hope I sleep better than last night, I’ve a bus trip to Derby planned to pick up a new blazer.

    1. As in an apparatus for blazing your surplus wood, BoB? Or one of those navy blue jackets with shiny brass buttons? Lol.

  86. I’ve been watching Shetland. Bbc one, the paint must be dry by now. And another body.
    I’m orff to my wee beed.
    Goodnight all.

  87. Good night, chums. I’m off to bed now and I hope we all sleep well. This morning I got up at 3.35 am because I just could not sleep. As a result I was so tired at around 4 pm today that I went back to bed for a couple of hours’ worth of Zeds. I suspect this will result in another 3.30 am awakening tomorrow morning. Aargh!

          1. I haven’t taken my tablets at this instant. After I take them I sleep like a baby. My wife says that I snore. Either way I obviously have no recollection.

            The problem with esoteric creative folk like me is that we are most attuned to the silences of the night. We treasure those silences by which we are best able to contemplate and thus synthesise the problems we find in front of us.

          2. Are you sure you aren’t still on them drugs?
            I’m kidding ! Just your post was eloquent.
            I meant my drugs had worn off.
            I’m supposed to take two four times a day. Which i refuse to do because i know what addiction looks like from the inside.

          3. I tell you what my friend. I have retired from professional architectural practice and now stand back and watch the silly machinations of what was once a glorious and accomplished profession.

            For the first time in my life I have found time to study world affairs but with the advantage of the internet and access to all manner of podcasts outside mainstream media.

            As for drugs we all need some medications but those we must deny are any related to the Covid scam and anything pretending to be a response to a pandemic.

          4. Your views and in particular your knowledge have always been valued on this site. The same goes for the majority that post here because they have experience rather than emotional responses.
            One could say this generations responses are valid because of the nightmare enviroment so called planners have allowed to be built.
            Not asking for specifics but what part of the country are you? Nottlers do get together and you would be welcome to buy us all a drink…………….. :@)
            The last get together was fun because at least two were deaf so smiled a lot…Mentioning no names..Hertslass and Harrykobeans…. Don’t tell anyone i said so…Well..at least anyone who can hear.

          5. I haven’t taken my tablets at this instant. After I take them I sleep like a baby. My wife says that I snore. Either way I obviously have no recollection.

            The problem with esoteric creative folk like me is that we are most attuned to the silences of the night. We treasure those silences by which we are best able to contemplate and thus synthesise the problems we find in front of us.

  90. A Nottler view from a different dimension.

    The Grim Spectacle of David Cameron’s Return

    Why a great ghoul of British politics has returned to haunt us again.

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    Imogen West-Knights

    Nov 15, 202312:53 PM

    David Cameron arrives to attend a Cabinet meeting in central London on Tuesday following a reshuffle.
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    David
    Cameron won the first general election in Britain that I was old enough
    to vote in, at 18, in 2010. His tenure as prime minister has darkly
    stalked the nation since. He was responsible for the austerity measures
    that decimated public services, leading to a surge in child poverty and food-bank use. He began the process of tanking the National Health Service
    by underfunding it. He stood down in 2016 after the Brexit referendum
    result came in, the referendum he himself called to put an end to the
    debate on European Union membership and the result of which, as everyone
    has surely heard by now, sucks real bad.

    He also once forgot his daughter in a pub,
    but honestly, this is the only thing he’s ever done that made me think
    “all right, fair enough, that’s a human thing to do.” In November 2018,
    rumors flew that Cameron was considering a return to front-line politics
    on account of being “bored shitless,” but that never happened. When he
    released an attempt at image rehabilitation in the form of a
    self-serving memoir in 2019, the reception was not warm. (A New York
    Times headline from the time: “David Cameron Is Sorry. Really, Really Sorry.”) Since then, he’s been more or less out of sight, out of mind.

    So
    to log onto my computer first thing on a Monday morning and discover
    that David Cameron was the new foreign secretary of the U.K. was a jump
    scare. It was a whiplash moment, anyway. The appointment came
    immediately after Prime Minister Rishi Sunak sacked another secretary,
    Suella Braverman, a rabidly right-wing politician who described a scheme
    to send asylum-seekers in Britain to Rwanda as her “dream” (that plan
    was finally declared unlawful
    by our Supreme Court on Wednesday) and called homelessness a “lifestyle
    choice” as recently as last week.* She was fired after she criticized
    the police for being too lenient toward protesters calling for a
    cease-fire in Gaza. And now in her stead, suddenly, was Cameron, a ghoul
    of the Tory party’s recent past, come back to haunt us.

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    What’s
    Cameron been up to since he retired from politics? He’s been doing
    charity work and wrote that quite blah memoir in what he called a
    “shepherd’s hut” he put in his garden. Then he took a dodgy advisory
    role at a financial services company, which paid him a salary of £1
    million to lobby senior ministers for emergency COVID loans. One of our
    news presenters, Kay Burley, also declared that he’s spent the past seven years gaining weight, in one of the most needless drive-bys I can recall and which promptly led to national acrimony online.

    It’s
    hard to know how Cameron’s appointment will play out politically, but
    it’s certainly a move designed to help win the Tories a general
    election. Sunak will have to call one within the next year or so, and
    recent polling suggests his approval rating is at a record low
    following a disastrous party conference last month. The optics of
    appointing Cameron aren’t great: Sunak looked around at his entire crop
    of MPs and thought, “No, let’s get one of the old guys back instead.” In
    fact, Cameron shouldn’t have been eligible for the position at all.
    Special measures had to be taken, with Sunak giving Cameron a House of Lords seat
    to make it legal. This appointment has been an unpleasant reminder that
    our quote-unquote “democratic government” has a loophole whereby if a
    prime minister decides to give a peerage to someone, they don’t even
    have to be a member of Parliament, don’t have to be elected by anybody,
    in order to hold a Cabinet position. Bringing Cameron back also makes a
    mockery of Sunak’s whole shtick thus far, which has been to offer change
    from the preceding 13 years of Tory rule, almost half of which took
    place under, well, David Cameron.

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    So
    why take a risk on Cameron? Cameron was the one who managed to take
    government back for the Tories after 13 years of Labour leadership. He
    stayed at the helm for a good while, too, six years as prime minister.
    The U.K. has had four Tory prime ministers in the seven years since:
    Theresa May, Boris Johnson, Liz Truss, and Sunak. Truss (she of the lettuce)
    was in power just 50 days. The party has felt unstable, and what Sunak
    wants to convey more than anything ahead of a general election is
    stability. Who better to imply that than Cameron, someone who built his
    reputation on the notion of being sensible and reliable, rather than
    dog-whistling hard-right talking points, like Suella Braverman? (Never
    mind all that Brexit stuff.) It’s already working on some voters, for
    sure: Someone uttered the words “Daddy’s home” in response to Cameron’s appointment, and if I had to read those two words, so do you.

    Then
    again, a large section of the Tory support base is still furious about
    the Brexit referendum and haven’t forgotten who orchestrated it.
    Cameron’s grim return says a lot about the state of politics in this
    country, not least because he very well could pull the ship back around
    for the Conservatives as the clock ticks down to an election. I hope
    not. But I have no doubt he will find a way to cast himself out of
    public once again.

  91. Regarding the conflict in Ukraine the Russians are now effectively ignoring Ukraine. They are not interested in pauses in the conflict nor in negotiating any form of ceasefire with Ukraine. Any negotiations to end the conflict will have to be between Russia and the United States. Zelensky is irrelevant.

    Should the US fail to engage with Ukraine and take control then Russia will press on and take those parts of Ukraine as might be required to possess for their own security.

    This is no stalemate but the threshold of a Russian victory on purely Russian terms. The Ukrainian state might remain in a diminished estate.

    Peace talks could commence even if the conflict continues. I doubt any politician in the west has the courage or ability to take this particular bull by the horns. Clearly Zelensky’s desire to continue to prosecute the war is frankly stupid. It is as though Hitler in his Berlin bunker continues to issue paper commands to a hollowed out army accompanied by more military sackings by the day whilst Hitler/Zelensky cowers in his basement Biden-like.

    Biden and his team have already proven to be one of the worst if not the worst administration ever visited on the United States and its brave and proud patriots.

    The lesson for humanity is the answer to my question: How on God’s Earth have we the people allowed ourselves to be led by the fucking idiots presently in charge?

    1. I know there are always young men and women prepared to do their patriotic duty and sign up but i just wonder if their media is any less or more controlled than China or North Korea.

  94. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12780349/Teacher-mastermind-29-240-000-pirate-football-kit-market-spared-jail-judge-admits-alive-particular-problems-prison-overcrowding-time.html

    Teacher mastermind, 29, behind £240,000 pirate
    football kit market spared jail after judge admits he is ‘alive to the
    particular problems of prison overcrowding at this time’
    There you go….pinch nick or steal anything you like…just put on a frock.
    My next outing to Sainsbury’s i shall be wearing full robes and of course an anti covid mask and help myself to all their halal meat. I expect their security team to load it all on to my camel….

    1. Over a seven year period the father of one who teaches Arabic to pupils in a primary school

      I wouldhave thought, they had more need to speak Ingerlish, than Spicky Dago

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