Friday 20 June: The whole free world has an interest in derailing Iran’s nuclear schemes

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  1. Good Morning, Geoff and chums. I got today's Wordle in 4 – a Par.

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    1. Good morning Elsie and all
      This word was invented by marketing people in the 1990s, I'm sure! Never heard it before then, and it's certainly not in common currency in Britain.
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        1. It first crossed my radar as a poncy colour name in the Next catalogue for a shade that we formerly knew as XXXX (in case people haven’t done W today).

      1. From the Frech for rmole, being the colour of a mole's coat – first used in English around WW1.

    2. Morning Elsie and BB2,
      I've never used the word either, but apparently it started to be used more widely in the 1940s.
      I managed a four today as well:

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    1. It's weather….., last night just before yet another forecast or now seemingly a celebration, they showed a black cat with a hat on, then the bald headed weather man standing directly in the sun.
      I'm quite sure animals have more common sense than that.

    2. Good. Problem is that people still believe the fraud, even when they can see that it's exaggerated! "We still have to ban cars even if the earth fries in 100 years instead of next year"

    3. It's always armageddon, got to keep the climate hysteria going…
      Morning, Johnny. Wie geht's?

    4. Out yesterday – a pleasant, early summer day! Forecast 28 degrees, actually 23!

  2. Good morning all.
    No mug of tea this morning as I've a trip to Derby for an ultrasound scan to see if I have gallstones.
    Only water allowed.

    A bit dull with a light overcast this morning and a tad under 17°C this morning after a maximum of 24½°C yesterday.

    1. That's cruel and unusual punishment for you, Bob!
      Do you know the starvation/grapefruit juice/epsom salts method of getting rid of gallstones?

  3. Good morning again! Younger daughter and I are off to the Royal Highland Show today. Son in law is showing sheep and other daughter and grandchildren will be there later! The sky is blue and the sun is shining! Looking forward to a wonderful day! Have fun and I hope WW111 doesn’t kick off while I’m away!

      1. Ooh me too! I won 3rd prize for a posy of flowers in a teacup, at Dalston show in 1965! I also showed a young Border collie!

        1. I intend to find some fun dog shows to show Winston this summer. He really is a handsome chap.

  4. Morning all 🙂😊🤗
    Home last night from my two days in hospital.
    Now taking masses of meds. Not sure all of it is strictly necessary…some to counter act the effects of others.

      1. Not as bad as I’d expected Sue.
        I got to start the exercises today that might get the pain threshold higher 🤔🤗

      1. It did Ellie thanks, in at 7:30 and back on the ward for lunch. Cheesy salmon pasta. One of my favourites.
        And the staff were all wonderful.

  5. 407893+ up ticks,

    Morning Each,

    Ask yourself "what is the five star treatment for" with the political coup being a success, very little if any opposition in parliament, multi peoples still in awe of
    covid 19 and its alledged serious ailments not admitting the fault is in the vaccine / Jab.

    Keeping the invaders sweet at tax payers expense
    until the time for the governing true colours to be hoisted.

    https://x.com/Truthhurts101UK/status/1935764440676225461

    1. Bloody tragic.
      I stopped there several times with work before I retired.

  6. Good Morning Folks,
    Another scorcher here, yet most of the family suffering from sore throats, coughs and colds.

        1. Got some – the whole area has had them for years because nuclear subs used to call here but we haven't had any for about 10 years

      1. I'm still recovering from a month long bout of rhume, toux, et bronchite. Not very pleasant. Nearly had to stop going to the pubs.

        1. I had a video call from the French friend with whom I stayed; she was smoking (as usual) and I started to cough (I've had a tickly cough since I went to France). She asked if it was her smoking …! To be fair, although I had a laugh, I think she meant smoking while I was staying there.

  7. Morning, all Y'all.
    Beautiful, cloudless day. Taking a day off from the office to work in the garden, also receive bathroom furniture.
    Was most alarmed when NoTTL wouldn't load – kept trying for about the last 90 minutes. Some error message about the site not being found…

  8. Morning, all Y'all.
    Beautiful, cloudless day. Taking a day off from the office to work in the garden, also receive bathroom furniture.
    Was most alarmed when NoTTL wouldn't load – kept trying for about the last 90 minutes. Some error message about the site not being found…

  9. "Leaked emails uncovered by investigative journalist Lewis Brackpool show the UK government worked directly with mainstream media to inject pro-vaccine, pro-lockdown messaging into fictional TV shows.
    Now, that same propaganda machine is being used to push war, digital ID, and experimental gene therapies."

    No surprises there then. The misinformation machine didn't stop with covid.
    https://www.vigilantfox.com/p/exclusive-leaked-emails-prove-uk

    1. They found how easy it is and how effective it is. Bury your propaganda at subliminal level in places you wouldn't expect to find it.

      1. Yes we got a reminder today on Radio 3 News that some Gravy Train Think tank has declared the recent hot weather is unprecedented and is due to Man 's affect on Climate or tosh words to that effect. I actually swore out loud at the radio!! :

        1. The constant banal repetition and shoe-horning into unrelated reports is so bloody tedious!

      2. Yep. I had a presentation about the new arrangements for hospital care in the region today. Sure enough "Net Zero" and "Carbon Capture" loomed large. There was also a slide dedicated to "before" and "after". Before there were green spaces …

    2. Since Convid, no Britons can look at 1930's Germany and claim "that couldn't happen here".

      1. I used to wonder how a well educated and cultured race like the Germans could descend so rapidly into nazis. After covid, I now know.

  10. The whole free world has an interest in derailing Iran’s nuclear schemes

    Iran is led by an evil totalitarian regime, but it is not being controlled by the WEF
    Here lies the quandary, destroy them and another part of the globe falls to the prevailing evil totalitarian regime.
    There is no win win end game here

  11. Warning: you need a strong stomach to read Doc Malik's reaction to the recent abortion bloodbath bill.
    I did not know the extent to which human tissue was used, not just in the vaccine but in the cosmetics and FOOD industries, as well as in other medical procedures.
    This does answer a question though, which is why the market for tissue from aborted foetuses is so huge.
    https://docmalik.substack.com/p/full-term-abortion-child-sacrifice?publication_id=1696390&post_id=166340316&isFreemail=true&r=28gmek&triedRedirect=true&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

    1. This "Labour" Government is primarily interested in extracting as many concessions for its business associates as it can extract from the nation and from the public. It is quite unscrupulous about this, claiming absolute power granted by the vagaries of British electoral democracy and a 20% mandate. They claim the authority to do what they like and we can be damned.

      If there is money to be made by favourites out of aborting children up to birth (as long demanded by feminists), then it's easy enough to tack something to another Bill at the last minute to push it through Pariament without public scrutiny. This is the way they operate these days, and the public can go to hell.

      Can anyone here please explain to me the principles of Contempt of Parliament?

      1. The continuous plotical pathological and habitual lying, constantly effects the daily lives of the people who are forced against their will to finacially support the government and Whitehall.
        There use by date is now long past expiry.

      2. It is more than just commercial transactions; we must not ignore the spiritual side of this.
        Our society is just another primitive society that sacrifices babies to gain some material benefits for the living.

        If you doubt that, look again at the flu jab. Elderly people inject themselves with a potion manufactured using cells derived from a sacrified child, in the hope of living longer.

        Sure the mother "chooses" to abort the child – because society has lied to her that sx outside marriage is just another leisure activity; that contraception works and that there is no downside to having children out of wedlock. When reality bites, her "choices" suddenly look a lot more like a trip to the ever friendly and awaiting abortion clinic.

  12. Good Morning!

    Maryam Gholami writes of the internal impact in Iran of the Israeli air strikes and, in The Regime is Falling”: Reza Pahlavi’s Call for Revolt as Iran Trembles Under Pressure , supports the Iranian Crown Prince's call for a revolt against the regime.

    Former soldier and policeman John Surtees writes that while he does not condone the violence seen in Ballymena recently, he fully understands it and lays the blame squarely on governments and, in Bally Awful – When the People Riot, It’s Because the State Has Declared War on Them , says that unless the State backs off, there is worse to come.

    Energy Watch: Over the last 24 hours: Britain's electric power was sourced from Gas, 27.2%; Solar, 12.4%: Wind 13.8%; Imports, 17.7%; Biomass, 10.3%; Nuclear 16% and Miscellaneous, 2.6%.

    Oddly, we are importing 4.04 GW, of which 1.896 comes from France, yet we are also exporting 0.006 of a GW to France!

    freespeechbacklash.com

    1. 'Back in the day' the general public of Iran seemed to be avoiding their past medieval life styles and enjoying hanging on to the 21st century that was making there living standards some what better. And then the 1st century mullahs took over.
      As they think they are entitled to do any where they go.

      1. I went to Iran a few times before the revolution and several times since. Before it was fun, friendly people, beautiful girls. After, the people are still friendly but the fun has gone out of the place.

        1. I remember seeing the ladies walking around in western style clothes.
          Islamic costume is not a good way to dress anywhere.

          1. I was last in Iran about eight years ago. In Tehran working with IRSL (Iran’s national shipping line). Even then, saw far more full length burkas in Aldgate High Street London in one day than I did in Iran in two weeks.

          2. Islam is so openly derogative to humanity. It only manages to survive using horribly mental and physically bullying tactics.

  13. Good morning Nottlers, 18°C – rising to 24° according to the forecast – light clouds and a light wind. Pleasant conditions for releasing golf balls back into the wild.

        1. We left the UK for Australia in the November. A bit of practice for when we arrived there. 🤠😎

    1. On longer journeys it takes at least two hours longer to get to the destination..

    1. No no go areas. As Humphrey tells us, trains are impartial too, but if you set down the rails that's where they go.

      Starmer called this so he could control every part of it – length, scope, who leads it (and that's important, as Labour have form for making sure the 'right' person is selected so absolutely nothing is found).

      1. Ar c covering is the common phrase for that.
        They are so disgustingly dishonest.

  14. When I was doing recoveries we weren't allowed to do anything at the roadside except change wheels and charge the auxiliary battery

  15. You'll still need an access pass for the No Go areas for your No No-Go Area Inquiry.

    Muslim Britain reveals a no-go area for white people, children 'attacked for being white', parents making families live under Taliban-like rules and women who can't leave home without permission

    from Malmö, Sweden, to the heart of London, England—where infidels are unwelcome, Islamic law is king, and extremism grows.

    while the politically correct try to deny their existence, the shocking reality of these "No Go Zones"—where Sharia law can prevail and local police stay away—can be attested to by its many victims.

    LOL moment..
    How ‘no-go zone’ myth spread from fringes to mainstream UK politics. The Guardian

  16. Over 1,000 children in Telford were sexually exploited, inquiry finds..

    Authorities managed seven.. yes seven convictions.

    I Know WHO Covered up Grooming Gangs Scandal and Have EVIDENCE – Charlie Peters' Chilling Warning

    1. A child is not 'sexually exploited'. They were raped, brutally, cruelly by, in the majority; pakistani paedophile muslim.

    2. The erstwhile leader of Telford and Wrekin council is now an MP – just sayin'.

  17. The Great Britain I love is dying. We have one last chance to save it

    Our country is not the same as the one I grew up in. But all hope is not yet extinguished if we act now

    David Frost • 19th June 2025, 6:06pm BST

    Imagine yourself back 30 years ago. If somehow you had been given a glimpse into the country's future, I am pretty confident certain things would have seemed quite incredible. To choose just a few not-quite-random recent examples:

    That we would have ignored the well-known fact of the mass gang rape of young girls across British cities for decades;

    That the British state would be unable to build a railway line between London and Birmingham and would spend nearly £100 billion proving it;

    That Parliament would allow women to kill their unborn baby at any point without committing any crime.

    You might have said in response that surely there must have been a massive change in the demographic, cultural, practical and indeed moral characteristics of Britain to make this possible. You might have said "That doesn't sound like the same country I live in now", the country which had dragged itself out of a huge economic and political hole, played a huge role in winning the Cold War, and just finished building a tunnel under the sea to France.

    And I think you would be right. Of course there has been no sudden moment of change. As 1990s-you got older, you might have detected glimmers of what was to come in the saga of the Millennium Dome or the 2001 Bradford riots. But there would come a moment when you would look around and say "Now I see it. Things really are different now".

    What we are living through today, in a phrase, is an unprecedented break in national continuity. As a country we are disconnecting from the old Britain. The Britain of our national story is disappearing, the Britain of the Romans through the Anglo-Saxons, the Normans, the Tudors, Nelson and Wellington, the two world wars and even the Attlee settlement.

    Gone is the Britain of Christianity and the Church as a core component of British identity, and moral judgement has become utilitarian, about what is convenient, disconnected from any traditional, let alone transcendental, set of values.

    Fast receding is the Britain of real state capacity and national ambition, as we move from Victorian St Pancras to the hole in the ground at Euston, from the first nuclear power station back to the windmill.

    Our national character is changing. We are, at last, becoming the "young country", the country without a past, that Tony Blair wanted.

    Part of the reason is immigration, in particular the genuinely mass migration of the last decade or two, making London close to a majority foreign-born city and giving us our first taste of ethnic and communal politics.

    But equally, perhaps even more, responsible is the phenomenon of secular progressivism, turbo-charged into aggressive wokeism, with its belief that the historical past is irrelevant and probably actively immoral, and its determination to produce heaven on earth by releasing people from one inherited constraint after another, including finally those of biology itself.

    We have become a very different society over the last 30 years. And I think one unusual indicator captures it: the name of the country. Over the 1990s you would have seen "Great Britain" slowly becoming "the UK". Google NGram shows that before 1960 the term "UK" was barely used. Then, between 1980 and 2000, it suddenly leaps up to become much the most common term for the country, well above "Britain" or "Great Britain". It still is.

    I don't think this is by chance. The only real parallel is the "USA", a country which makes a virtue of its newness and of its origins in a political idea. I think the "UK" as a term spread for similar reasons. It felt inclusive and in line with the ideology of multiculturalism in a young country. People coming here could retain their ethnic and cultural markers, their connection with the old country, while being a "UK" citizen too.

    You could choose a traditional British historical or cultural identity, like that of England or Scotland, but you didn't have to. As a result, the word "British" gradually ceased to be an ethnic or cultural term and became simply the adjective relating to the noun "UK". And we became known to the world not by a historical name but as a bureaucratic abbreviation.

    Some commentators on social media now go one step further and now, humorously or derisively, call us not the UK but the "Yookay". As you'll find if you google them, the term was initially used to symbolise the particular aesthetic quality of much of the modern UK, that jarring mixture of cultures bolted onto the pre-existing British environment. The American candy store next to the kebab shop with its modern signage stuck onto a half-timbered building. The scattered Lime bikes and discarded Deliveroo bags slung wherever on the street. And the soundtrack of modern Britain, multicultural London English with its global slang, the drill music on the train without headphones. If you live in a city, you recognise it.

    But the "Yookay" now has a wider implication too: to suggest with the new name that we are now a new country, an actual successor state to the old Great Britain, distinct from it as I have described. And indeed we are becoming it: the Wessex or Mercia to Roman Britain, the "island of strangers" in Starmer's genius phrase, grottier, "scuzzier" as The Spectator put it the other day, with a different national character, and with lower national ambition.

    Happily the transformation isn't complete yet. We don't have to become the Yookay. We don't have to live out our days like Roman villa-owners farming our estates as things collapse around us.

    Economic, social, and political reform – everything I have been setting out here over the years – can get us back on track. But for that we need politicians who can see what's going on and who care enough to get the country moving again – and who can reach back to the past, back beyond that break in continuity, to get the national energy to make it happen.

    For as George Orwell put it, in the final words of his great wartime essay The Lion and the Unicorn, "we must add to our heritage or lose it, we must grow greater or grow less, we must go forward or backward. I believe in England, and I believe that we shall go forward."

    Amen to that.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/19/britain-i-love-dying-one-last-chance-to-save-it-yookay-uk

    Is the good lord being naively optimistic that the country can be saved through 'economic, social, and political reform'? I fear that any change for the better might only happen after a calamity. It's unlikely to be through debate and democracy [sic].

    1. And I think you would be right. Of course there has been no sudden moment of change. As 1990s-you got older, you might have detected glimmers of what was to come in the saga of the Millennium Dome or the 2001 Bradford riots. But there would come a moment when you would look around and say "Now I see it. Things really are different now".

      We had an inkling, and left in 1998 for Norway. It helped that I worked in a Norwegian company, in oil & gas, so skills were readily transferable – SWMBO's job was under threat, so the incentive and opportunity to move were present. So we did.

    2. Well, let's break it down.

      Economic reform – simply scrap welfare for the gimmigrant. End pension entitlement for those on welfare. Stop paying child benefit and housing benefit. They will have to leave.

      Social – repeal the endless law created to protect muslim from criticism. Stop the DIE and ESG twaddle. Make the foreigner uncomfortable and unwelcome.

      Political – impose true democracy – repeal, recall and referism. For the state to do what the voter wishes by preventing them passing any law we do not not want, and working to repeal those we want removed.

      Bring the state to heel, cut off the tap of bennies for the dindu gimmigrant, cut off the head of the snake of the Left and it's infiltration.

  18. I see that Starmer is facing resignations over his disability benefit cut bill going through parliament.
    But I expect the government will just about limp through with it

    1. But not over the appalling abortion bill? All those fresh-faced little Labour MP souls going ten a penny to the Devil…

    1. Letters to the Editor
      The whole free world has an interest in derailing Iran’s nuclear schemes
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3b95fd06603cbaff3cb68b0e1fdfa37792a605515fcb2b8848cdf80b55a6f6a0.png Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, has vowed never to surrender despite a wave of Israeli air strikes Credit: ATTA KENARE/AFP

      SIR – Allister Heath is correct in his condemnation of Sir Keir Starmer and Labour for their failings over Israel and Iran (“Trump and Netanyahu are saving the decadent West from its demons”, Comment, June 19).

      I have been impressed by the Israelis’ operations against Iran so far, and hope they will be supported to finish the job. Those who value Western freedom should be backing them, and Britain should be standing shoulder-to-shoulder with its allies. Yet Sir Keir, David Lammy, the Foreign Secretary, and Lord Hermer, the Attorney General (“Hermer: War on Iran may be illegal”, report, June 19), have proved an embarrassment.

      It is also worth remembering that the weakness of multiple European and American leaders allowed Iran to reach the point it is at now.

      Huw Bell
      Wetherby, West Yorkshire

      1. I wondered what had happened to George Smiley….

        Morning lacoste and all….

  19. 407893+ up ticks,

    Very, very, very, greedy bastards, put AI in the driving seat.

    Dt,

    Tube drivers threaten to strike if £76,000 pay demand refused
    London Underground drivers are already comfortably inside top 10pc of all salaried employees in Britain

  20. That's better. Just in from the last act of tidying the garden – pulling up nettles and sweeping the road where I'd left a mess. Just as I closed the shed door, noticed that the woodstack is beginning to teeter, and the "lawn" (OK, area of couch grass, clover and dandelions) needs mown again. It'll have to wait.

      1. Grass area is too small to justify one of those, Rastus. A battery-powered Ryobi rotary with grass box is perfect: Light, effective, collects the clippings. What's not to like?

        1. Mowing the whole 'lawn' takes three hours and gets me out of the house and out from under Caroline's feet.

          In the current weather it is far more pleasant than sawing logs or weeding.

        2. Aha, posted above before I saw your response…couple questions..what's the area of grass you're cutting, how long does it take compared to man n machine, does it do a good job especially rougher ground, long grass etc….grateful for any reply:-)

          1. Sorry for the slow response. Just driven to Firstborn's place, and then had dinner out.
            The grass is in z-shaped profile, vertically speaking, with a steep up bit. Area – about 300 square metres total. Takes about 20 minutes with the new Ryobi battery mower, including stops to empty the grass box. I tend to leave it a bit too long, so it's often a bit rough.

          2. Sounds very much like our terrain here. Do you have a model ref please…sales guy been here this pm but him in charge was out, be useful to give him a ref? Thxx

          3. I'll have to get back to you Sunday afternoon or Monday, as I'm not at home… I'll make a note, but it would help if you remind me.

          4. Have a good weekend, Paul. Have made a note..now I just need to remember what it’s about…doh…x

          5. Cool x I have actually made a note on my notepad. Risk is…I will look at it, and think ‘what the heck is that about’……..

      2. Yes, I'm sure he's doing a good job, but maybe tell the mower to get off and push, rather than sit on?

      3. Very similar to ours. Friend sells those robot ones, they're going to try that out…I suspect it'll get stuck, more than once…….

        1. Saw a new robot mower – has caterpillar tracks for better grip on slopes…

          1. Not buying one – I'll stick with the Ryobi. The robot wasn't cheap, and TBH, the grass is pretty shabby, can't call it a lawn, so it gets attention when I'm ready.

  21. Received this morning.

    You’re receiving this email because you signed the petition: “Protect Northern Ireland Veterans from Prosecutions”.

    Dear Anne Allan,

    Parliament is going to debate the petition you signed – “Protect Northern Ireland Veterans from Prosecutions”.

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/725716

    The debate is scheduled for 14 July 2025.

    Once the debate has happened, we’ll email you a video and transcript.

    Thanks,

    The Petitions Team
    House of Commons

    1. 'We don't care. We are going to destroy their lives because we hate you.'

      Easy. In a democracy, of course, not only would the country truly be at peace and not have a period of violence and thuggery called 'the trubbles' but Labour wouldn't exist.

    2. Summer recess? A few petitions I've signed have been rejected 'insufficient support from MPs'

  22. ‘We feel extreme fear’: How Northern Ireland’s riots are haunting migrants
    Following days of unrest, immigrants who have become primary targets of violence rely on the help of ‘white-presenting allies’ to survive

    What did you think of this article?
    Share your thoughts

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/19/northern-ireland-riots-migrants/

    As there is no space given for comments under this article I cannot share my thoughts!

    Mind you the reason why there is no space given for comments is that the DT can guess what their readers think and they don't want to publish them.

    Off subject but I have always enjoyed listening to this Gordon Lightfoot song:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiU2lrGnT7U

    1. On closer inspection I see that they want to have a pre-posting censoring system. I put this under a thumbs down:

      I wonder why people who have lived most of their lives happily in Northern Ireland resent what they see as a state imposed invasion of their localities by people with entirely different values, beliefs and behaviour.

      What did you think of this article?
      Share your thoughts

      Your thoughts:
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      Your feedback has been sent to the newsroom. Thank you for sharing.

      Your feedback will be used in accordance with our Privacy Policy.

    2. "Following days of unrest, immigrants who have become primary targets of violence rely on the help of ‘white-presenting allies’ to survive"

      Excuse the language, but what the FUCK are "white-presenting allies"????

      1. They're – ah, feck knows. White Lefties who just want to stir up trouble and ruin society.

    3. Extreme fear? Good. You're not welcome. How do you think we feel with you raping, stabbing, murderous whelps on the streets ferrying drugs around?

      Don't want them here. Get rid.

    4. Have you read Milton's Paradise Lost? Satan, the personification of evil, feels unfairly treated by God.

      1. I used to be very familiar with Books 1 and 2 and Books 9 and 10 as these came up in the "A" level syllabus and had to be studied in great detail.

  23. There was so e discussion yesterday in the Other Place (Freespeech Backlash) on the Mirror’s Pride of Britain Awards. An opportunity for some top trollong. TR being nominated by people. I put him up for the Special Recognition award although others have nominated him for the Lifetime Achievement award. Lol. I don’t expect he will win anything…as they reserve the right to ignore is. But it made me feel better.

    1. Even if he won every category by a landslide he still wouldn't get anything. Which goes to show just how much pride there is.

    1. I'd dearly like the war to stop and folk to start talking to one another. The problem is, muslim doesn't.

      1. They can't talk to us because we are beneath them, except if we can be used. Funny how some of the most primitive peoples, whose own histories show little in terms of civilised achievements, have this superiority complex.

    2. The attacks on Iran have nothing whatever to do with Iran’s non-existent nuclear program and everything to do with regime change.

      Iran abandoned its nuclear program decades ago. Traces of radioactivity date from the abandoned program.

      Regime change is better left to the people of Iran to implement in their own way and by their own means.

      It has been a long held political reality that the Persian people are a proud and self reliant people who do not look kindly on western interferences.

      1. Independence under the yoke of islam or become a US lackey state…decisions, decisions…

    1. One wanted to be the leader of the Conservative Party and would have led it to just as great an electoral defeat as the one who did lead it.

      Neither of them are Christians.

      1. I find it hard to believe that abortion up to birth is condoned by practising Hindus either…

        1. Given that Hindus believe in reincarnation, it seems rather a pointless exercise. The soul will keep coming back till it finds a willing womb? Mind, a friend of mine used that as an excuse to have an abortion. The soul she'd kicked out should go and find itself a better mother. It would be funny if it weren't so sad.

          1. My mother spent quite a lot of time in hospital, following aneurysm. Made friends with a nurse, who would bludge off her until my dad and I said no more. She'd told my mum she'd had four abortions if not more, said something about her character in addition to wheedling for money.

    2. Seems my Lib Dem MP is for child murder. As i expected. She never fails to get it wrong on all moral issues.

    3. My MP voted for it – the scumbag. (I didn't vote for this MP) – Ditto! I see a few Limp Dums voted Aye as well. And well done to those Labour MPs who voted against!! As for the Cons who didn't vote [yes, Jeremy, that includes you] – SHAME on you.

    4. My MP, the appropriately named Andy Slaughter, voted in favour. I've never voted for him.

      1. Mine voted against, he's a man of faith so that may have affected his decision. Whatever his reason/s, good for him.

      1. And my Labour one. What an evil lot have blagged their way into this ghastly government.

  24. Apparently we now own more part shares in many horsies. However, the Warqueen spent the betting wins on other horsies so came back just in the black, but had spent the monies she took with her.

      1. Yes. But all peoples who get the bug of owning a hair nostril of a horse spaff all their winnings on more hair nostrils of more horses.

        Believe me – It says so in the Bible.

        1. Some of us have limited the amount we spaff on shares of more horses (although we do continue to support current horses that have lost their form or may not prove to be good racehorses in the first place).

  25. 407893+ up ticks,

    May one ask if a party, at this moment in time, and the peoples having ample proof as to what has / is / and will continue to be happening into the future, used calling for a civil war mainstay in their manifesto have any success in today's political climate.

    I'm asking because the rate of illegal invasion intake has gone far beyond any credible need.

    Surely we are fighting aggression with a weak willed
    passive opposition.

    1. The moment anyone starts a peaceful demonstration against it they will be locked up, as already happened in Dover. The crime was blocking a public highway whilst not being Just Stop Oil, I believe.

      1. Another example of two tier justice. Muslims pray in the street effectively blocking it and the Police look on.

      2. 407893+ up ticks,

        Afternoon BB2,

        Precisely, they have incarcerated peoples for far less than blocking the kings highway, issues that could be seen as a basis for very serious civil unrest, the forerunner to a full blown civil war against a political element that is putting the indigenous peoples, especially children, at high risk DAILY.

  26. Up late. Aching kidneys. Posted Wordle on wrong day. Not going well but got this unusual word in three:
    Wordle 1,462 3/6

    ⬜⬜🟨🟨⬜
    🟨🟩⬜🟨🟩
    🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

  27. 28°C here (82.4F) and it has started to rain – not very heavy though. Saves watering the plants weeds.

    1. It can't be medically justified, so any practising doctor doing that should be struck off.

      1. Yo 'las

        So much forthe Hyocritic Oath

        a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings. hypocrite adjective.

        1. That Oath is no longer taken anyway. But to leave it so late, and to use such an inhumane way is indefensible.

    2. I really wish I hadn't read that, Johnny.
      But it's good to be informed of the depravity of folk.

    1. Typical Roper. Of course muslims never cause non-muslims any (justified, given their behaviour) anxiety or distress.

      1. I remind myself that it's not The Roper's fault. He has been instructed by the progressive liberal.

  28. The Met Office has revealed that the temperature recorded in Coningsby last year (2022) which marked the hottest day on record for the UK has beaten records dating back to 1884. On July 19, 2022, RAF Coningsby hit a record high of 40.3C, which was the highest recorded temperature on record in the UK.

    The idiot taking the temperature was probably at the rear of bomber that had just returned from the Middle East. Met Office bullsh*t!

      1. That's badly written (I'm assuming it comes from a news report). Met Office records go back to 1884 but it doesn't mean that the record was set then. The record was 98.1°F (36.7°C) at Raunds in Northamptonshire in 1911. Cheltenham recorded 37.1°C (98.8°F) in 1990 but some sources challenged that for urban heat effect.

          1. Massively over built areas, terraces, concrete, black roads. far fewer trees for shade. It's inevitable this time would be warmer – we're soaking it up in all the infrastructure.

        1. The temperature guage at Heathrow was placed where it was affected by the jet efflux of aircraft on the ground.

        2. I remember that day in 1990 – being stuck in traffic on the way to inter my mother’s ashes in her mother’s grave, at the church we used to go to. It was very warm. The church is now redundant and closed, sadly.

      2. "records dating back to 1884." That's when they first started official weather readings.

    1. Er, that's two-year-old news!

      The unreliability of some Met Office temperature recordings has been reported in the last year or two.

    1. The problem with the likes of Starmer and Hermer is that they believe in the sanctity of law. It would hardly ever occur to them to challenge it for any bad effects on people. It just exists and therefore it must be right. Anyone who thinks it's wrong is bad. I'll go out on a limb here and suggest that even the Blair creature would have found a way to remove these two pieces of filth even if, cynically, it were just for a good headline.

      1. They believe in the sanctity of legislation, not law – if it suits their own purposes. He ignores both our Common Law and the concept of either trite law or bad law. He is actually not a good lawyer himself.

        1. The mentality is demonstrated by the first reply from one Dovey Margeaux, who claims to be a Christian and Reform UK supporter: "For Christ, for Country, for Common Sense."

          1. I seem to have read that he also brought a case again the UK government, effectively forcing it to give illegal immigrants legal aid.

          2. That may be an urban myth, I am not sure. What we can say for certain is that there was no evidence of him ever doing anything good.

          3. Yes. As someone wrote – we know about the taxi rank principle that lawyers must represent people even if they don’t agree with them, but it’s funny how many of the same kind of taxi pulled up at that rank.

          4. Yes, It is odd isn’t it……so far only a handful accused, more to follow perhaps…

        2. Legislation can be unlawful of course. These people legislate for what they want to do and then say, "But it's the LAW"!

      2. I think they believe in the sanctity of lawyers – people like themselves (nicked from David Starkey)…..

          1. We've already got one that doesn't cut the mustard…..he couldn't even cut hot butter..

  29. That's some hedge trimming done in the shade so that's me finished working for the day – after lunch I will be making a large corned beef, onion, garlic sausage and potato pie taking advantage of the free electricity for the oven

    1. Corned beef hash #1 supper dish, made often in Aga which I no longer have, my way of cooking..free leccy?

        1. Similar here…ours were fitted under the FIT scheme, so were effectively paid for by that. Our leccy guy said a no-brainer, advising everyone he knew to do it. Also have a TESLA battery, couple of TESLA chaps came in a black Tesla/windows blacked out, to check on it. The car made absolutely no sound at all x I felt quite faint…….

          1. Yes mine have been paid for, now on a profit which I won’t waste by getting a battery – it sounds good but I reckon you won’t get your money back . Pie was great! x

          2. I think it may have been installed the same time. Love Elon Musk. Agree on funds, past time for that. Glad the pie was good 🙂 xx have a great evening Alec

    1. These people are so dumb. Even the North American Indians, as primitive as they were, worked out that it's a bad idea to marry within your own clan.

    2. It has been known for two thousand years (in some societies) that inbreeding produces morons . . . and politicians.

  30. 407893+ up ticks,

    Now there's a question easily answered and for all to see, just check out the daily running of parliament
    AKA the hate factory.

    Dt,

    Jake Wallis Simons
    How deeply would you have to hate Britain to damage our means of defending it?
    Israel has retained those values that we in the West have lost

  31. Ah, good old Parcel Farce! Sent me an email yesterday – delivery due between 1412 and 1512. At 1051, over 3 hours before that slot they said delivery had been attempted but was not possible as the "address was inaccessible". The address is NOT inaccessible – it's still exactly where it normally is – on a road open in both directions; I can say that as I drove along it at about that time!! Needless to say, no sign of them that afternoon. Today it's supposed to be "reattempted" [I don't believe it was the first time, but there we are]. Today 1032 to 1232 [although apparently that is only an estimate] – no sign of them so far!!

    1. I paid £18 for guaranteed next day delivery by 10 am. It wasn't even attempted the next day, and finally was delivered 4 days after posting. I complained and got a full refund, but why can't they just do their job?

      1. I ordered an item from Amazon yesterday at about 1400 Hrs. It was dilivered today at 11.30hrs by Roya;l Mail. Not bad as it was free delivery.

        1. I am lucky. Amazon has a huge warehousing operation about 10 miles away. Same day delivery is not unknown, if it is something they stock. And here, they are using their own vans for local delivery, and they are everywhere.

          I can always tell if it's an actual Amazon delivery – it is placed by the front door. The other companies, like UPS and FedEx leave parcels all over the place. I get the email saying it was delivered and then go on a hunt…

        2. I am lucky. Amazon has a huge warehousing operation about 10 miles away. Same day delivery is not unknown, if it is something they stock. And here, they are using their own vans for local delivery, and they are everywhere.

          I can always tell if it's an actual Amazon delivery – it is placed by the front door. The other companies, like UPS and FedEx leave parcels all over the place. I get the email saying it was delivered and then go on a hunt…

        3. Royal Mail do also deliver Amazon things – it depends on the seller, I guess. RM can be very good.

        4. Perhaps Amazon would make a good job of running the country. They’re very efficient.

    2. Probably tried to deliver to a different address. One of the online operations here seems to do that a lot. And the parcels go to who knows where.

      1. A few times I've had parcels delivered to 00 Sxxxxxxxx Bxxx Road even though I've given my address as Flat No 00, The Gxxxxxxxx, Sxxxxxxxx Bxxx Road, which is a different building entirely, albeit on the same street.

    3. Not as bad as Evri who delivered my parcel to someone in the next village and said it was signed for by me. Luckily the guy in the next village (who didn't question the delivery as he was expecting one himself) got in his car and brought it to me. I vaguely know the guy anyway – he's a Philipino who works at the local care home.
      I've had the same experience as you from Parcelforce who said they couldn't deliver but this was because the driver wasn't familiar with the area and didn't know I had a box at the end of my drive to put parcels in (I have no letter box) but I know he didn't call anyway.

  32. The Met Office was established on 1 August 1854 as a small department within the Board of Trade under Vice Admiral Robert FitzRoy as a service to mariners. The loss of the passenger vessel, the Royal Charter, and 459 lives off the coast of Anglesey in a violent storm in October 1859 led to the first gale warning service. FitzRoy established a network of 15 coastal stations from which visual gale warnings could be provided for ships at sea.

    The new electric telegraph enabled rapid dissemination of warnings and also led to the development of an observational network.

    Now it is controlled by the Department for disseminating false data and government propaganda headed by Penelope Clare Endersby. A British scientist and senior civil servant originally specialising in armour and explosives. She was appointed chief executive of the Met Office in December 2018. Prior to that, she led cyber and information systems at the Defence Science and Technology Laboratory.
    That which I have highlighted is true. I have not made it up. I will never get a job at the Met Office.

    1. It's all a bit of a revolving door. You rarely see a private sector person hired into these senior roles. It's always a civl servant job hopping to avoid embarrassment after they rack up enough trougher points.

  33. It's warm out there! The wind seems to have dropped – it was blowing when I hung the washing out………. just got back from a trip to collect some cards from our printer just outside Cirencester.

    1. We're due a dip in temp and a few showers, before resumption. Not my fave time of year.

    2. Put the washing out (3 loads today, all hers) and you can see clothes drying as you watch.

  34. We got a letter last week for the same house number but a completely different street nearby. I took the letter round, what freaked me out a bit was that when I explained where we lived, it seemed that she knew me by sight and where we live!
    It is the oldest house in the small area but still!

    1. I happily drop my neighbour's post off. It's handy for those rare occasions when they take mine.

      1. I'm the same. Because my house has no number (it's named) but is next door to number 6, I regularly get parcels for No. 8. I know them well.

  35. I like when it rains, almost a warm shower. Not too keen on blazing sun, still days, stay indoors 🙂

  36. I see "Palestinian Activists" have broken into RAF Brize Norton and sprayed paint into a couple jet engines! Doesn't say much for the security there – I wonder what the sentence will be for the perpetrators, if any!?

    1. Damaging defence capability is treason.
      Remind me who stopped the death penalty for treason.

  37. How the he'll were protesters able to breach security at RAF Brize Norton and damage aircraft?

  38. The Warqueen is miffed as she was only in one photo despite posing. If anyone sees a tallish woman with wavy sort of ringlets but not blonde hair in a white suit jacket and trousers, that's likely the other half.

      1. She's just having a grump she wasn't in more.

        Her photos, in contrast, are of the horses.

    1. There were some long priced winners at Ascot today. If she found those, well done!

  39. The rain lasted a couple of minutes 0.2 of 1 mm. Hardly enough to wet the ground. The temperature inside my car presently is 122°F I may have to remove my pullover.

    1. And the chap immediately to the left of Trump in the photo was the governor of the Bank of England when the Brexit vote took place. He did his best to try and make Brexit fail.

      Carney, Macron and Starmer are equally contemptible. The Italian woman is far better than the rest of them!

      1. Yep. Endless proclamations of doom monger predictions intentionally taken from the worst possible, most unlikely options happening in combination – which was all ignored in favour of the headline lie.

        Lefties are nasty, bitter, twisted creatures, the anti EU press merely encouraged these lies..

  40. According to the Mail they've voted to kill the elderly and sick too. What a win for Satan this week in the House of Commons!

    1. They've voted for the right to kill anyone they find inconvenient. Is there any chance of the Lords overturning this bill?

  41. Primary school children taught about the 300 flags of Pride
    Parents claim Labour council has ignored concerns raised over leaflets handed out by Swindon and Wiltshire Pride charity

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/20/primary-school-children-taught-300-pride-flags-wiltshire/

    BTL

    Can a transgender person have a homosexual relationship with people of both sexes on gay days? Or can he/she/it have a heterosexual relationship on straight days?

    Primary schoolchildren need to know this before they try and tackle reading, writing and arithmetic.

  42. 407893+ up ticks,

    Culling gets a boost,

    Live MPs back assisted dying by 23 votes

    You can hum that tune again baby,

    Abbott: ‘No doubt’ people will die unnecessarily under assisted dying Bill
    Diane Abbott said there was “no doubt” some people would die who do not need to because of the assisted dying Bill.

    1. 407893+ up ticks,

      O2O,
      Harold Shipman wanna be doctors could be out the break the 250 victim count, legally.

          1. Why won’t people wake up? Someone only has to tell them a slogan like ‘my right to choose’ and they’ll accept mass murder. What is wrong with people?

          2. What happens to bodily autonomy and my right to choose when the vaccine myth gets dragged out again?

            On my way home from church yesterday evening there was an American woman sitting opposite me on the train who looked for all the world like a wokey feminist type but she and her rather handsome mixed raced male companion were discussing all of this stuff plus the lies that will be told to get people to accept digital ID, CBDC and social credit scores. She must have lived here a long time because though her accent is still American, her vocabulary is not and she has a Freedom Pass. I pitched in of course and as she left the train, she took my hand and said, "I'm glad you're one of us".

  43. S.S. Otterpool.

    Complement:
    39 (23 dead and 16 survivors).
    8,180 tons of iron ore

    At 21.42 hours on 20th June 1940 the Otterpool (Master Thomas Prince) in convoy HG-34F was hit by one stern torpedo from U-30 (Fritz-Julius Lemp) and sank about 130 miles west of Ushant. The master, 21 crew members and one gunner were lost. 16 crew members were picked up by HMS Scarborough (L 25) (Cdr C.T. Addis, RN) and landed at Liverpool.
    The Otterpool and another vessel of the same convoy had been missed during an attack by the same U-boat earlier that day. She was also missed by an attack from U-51 (Knorr) at 15.33 hours on 20th June. The U-boat had reported two explosions, but saw no other effects on two ships due to bad visibility. In fact, the Andalusian and the Otterpool were missed. According to the xB-Dienst reports, the BdU assumed that there had been hits on the Fellside (misidentification of Andalusian) and the Otterpool.

    Type VIIA U-Boat U-30 was decommissioned on 23rd January 1945 and used as instructional boat.
    Scuttled on 5th May 1945 in Kupfermühlen Bay near Flensburg. Wreck broken up in 1948. https://uboat.net/media/allies/merchants/br/otterpool.jpg

  44. Now they can legally murder people either end of a lifespan they must be scheming on the best way of sorting out the bit in between.

    1. Yes. They think AI will render most people useless, and they certainly won't want 'useless eaters' breeding.
      Computer games and junk food only go so far to immobilise people.

      If they get their eugenicist dream, there will be too few people to keep them in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed anyway.

    2. War is a good way of wiping out the younger generations.
      Or maybe the Chinese can come up with something genuinely lethal this time.

    3. It's a shame with the way they all behave we can't spray them all with something.

    4. Yes. One way of reducing NHS costs, cancer treatment alone never mind all the expensive new drugs coming along. Unless of course everyone gets a massive pay rise, and continues to.

  45. A minor boost to my mood – and bank balance.
    The Noddy car had a suspected slow puncture. The tyre was reinflated and for the last fortnight I've been watching it like hawk. Until this morning, there was no obvious change. Until this morning …..
    Sonny Boy Senior and I took it along to the garage; tyre was down to 7 psi.
    The lovely tyre people a couple of roads away from us, checked it and found a small nail (probably a gutter parking job).
    As it was a barely used tyre, they repaired it … for £20! It should now last as long as the other tyres.

      1. I think the word no longer means 'cigarette'

        A friend of mine who visited the US and said he was popping out for a few fags raised eyebrows.

        When I was at school I had to spend my Lower Fifth year fagging – and again this was not anything to do with homosexuality.

  46. Wordle No. 1,462 4/6

    🟨⬜⬜⬜🟩
    ⬜⬜🟨⬜🟨
    🟩🟩🟩⬜🟩
    🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

    Wordle 20 Jun 2025

    A pale Par Four?

    1. Birdie today.

      Wordle 1,462 3/6

      🟨⬜⬜🟨🟨
      ⬜🟨🟨🟨🟨
      🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

    2. Starter word came up trumps today – thought I was in for an eagle but had to settle for birdie!

      Wordle 1,462 3/6

      🟩🟩⬜🟨⬜
      🟩🟩⬜⬜🟩
      🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

    3. MMatches Today's golf game
      Wordle 1,462 4/6

      ⬜⬜⬜⬜🟩
      🟨⬜🟨⬜⬜
      🟩⬜🟩⬜⬜
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    4. Birdie here.

      I knew the word from the name of a Farrell & Ball colour chart. I would otherwise describe the colour as “sludge”.

      Wordle 1,462 3/6

      ⬜⬜🟨⬜🟨
      🟨⬜⬜🟨⬜
      🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

    5. Par here, too. Only heard the word a few years ago when some decorating was going on.

      Wordle 1,462 4/6

      🟨⬜⬜⬜🟩
      ⬜⬜🟨⬜🟩
      ⬜🟩⬜⬜🟩
      🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

    1. As Andrew Gold joked recently in his interview with the journalist Kevin Whatisname, Meagain has become a “trad wife”.

        1. Ah! I made a comment just to see if I could but have deleted it as I really had nothing worthwhile to add to the discussion.

      1. I'm glad BB2 clarified otherwise I'd be thinking Every M…. F….. !

        I'll present myself to TNS the naughty step!

      2. I'm glad BB2 clarified otherwise I'd be thinking Every M…. F….. !

        I'll present myself to TNS the naughty step!

    1. From TCW>
      IN a triumph for real science, the World Health Organization (WHO) has been forced to make a humiliating U-turn and admit that radiofrequency electromagnetic fields (RF EMFs) can cause cancer and infertility in animals. This means they will have to review smartphone advice given to humans, which to date has been that any health risk is small.

      RF EMFs are emitted by smartphones, cell towers and broadcasting antennas, and for decades people have complained that they cause health issues, which the WHO fought hard to downplay. But in May they had to review their advice after a study they partially funded, titled ‘Effects of radiofrequency electromagnetic field exposure on cancer in laboratory animal studies, a systematic review,’ published in Science Direct, showed a direct correlation between mobile phone use and cancer and infertility in animals.

      1. Better stop animals using phones, then.

        Seriously, I have often wondered about this. There was a study published some years ago, which actually stated the frequency bands of "harmful" cell phone radiation, as in which requencies most affected the brain, but I have no idea by whom or where it was published.

        What we do know, however, is the levels of EMF emiisions we are subjected to, have risen very steadily over time, and we do know high levels of the wrong kind of radiation are extremely harmful, not to say fatal.

  47. I think the people attending the Royal Highland Show at Ingliston near Edinburgh have shown themselves to be reasonably honest.

    The temporary car parks (at £10 a car) surround the car park for the park and ride from the airport to the city centre. It is a free car park. I was going into the city this morning and found it remarkably easy to get parked. There was no one check that you were using the park and ride and not parking up and going to the show.

    Oh, and quite separate, the temperature on the way home was 28.

    1. Currently 29.6C in my study with the curtains drawn! Phew it ain't half hot mum!

  48. Afternoon, all. Been quite a muggy day here with thin clouds veiling the sun. Managed to cut my back lawn then put the mower away because it started to rain! Only a few spots though. Nothing useful.

  49. Back from Derby, totally knackered after a hot, think and clammy day.
    At least I don't have gallstones.

    Has this been posted yet?
    Review possible penalties for social media posts, including the use of prison

    We call on the Government to urgently review the possible penalties for non-violent offences arising from social media posts, including the use of prison.
    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/728715

    1. For a moment, until I saw Rupert Lowe's name, I thought it was some Leftie wanting more prison for posts! 25,727

    2. Hi Bob. My dearth of posts over the last few months is due to *eyesight issues: with the screen enlarged and white text on black, I can easily read posts, within reason. My problem is seeing the bloody keyboard. My favoured Logitech MX Keys has great illumination, until it fails. Granted, some failures have been associated with.. er.. wine ingress. But not all. I'm now using a cheap Chinese wired keyboard. The illumination leaves much to be desired, but my touch typing skills are improving. The laptop is on an elevated stand, which – thus far – isolates it from accidents…

      By this time of night, I've been relatively still, and the blood from the retinal haemorrhage didsapperas from view, due to gravity. Similarly first thing in the morning, when all is clear. Once I rise from bed, it all becomes blurred.

      On Wednesday next, I have a previously postponed appointment with the eye surgeon. I know there are things that can be done. Fingers crossed that he agrees…

      1. Your problems, and those of others on here, do make me thankful that, at least so far, I am still fairly healthy and fit despite various aches & pains.
        Good luck with the eye surgeon.

      2. Good luck, let's hope the surgeon can do something that improves the current situation and the long term prognosis.
        You're having far more than your fair share of health issues.

    3. Good news to hear that you don't have gallstones, BoB. It must be a relief for you.

  50. Funny old few days , I had my Gastroscopy yesterday afternoon , and was sedated, and this afternoon my CT scan , wow, I had to drink a litre of water, and holding onto that was a real effort until my CT scan was complete .

    Moh drove me to hospital, so bumping along in the car was a hazardous exercise , hanging on until we reached there.

    Modern xray equipment and techniques are amazing .. who on earth invents things like that ?

    Very very warm afternoon , slight breeze, the cars are covered in thick dust .. Sahara?

    1. The language is more likely to be Urdu than Arabic, and that music is Indian. The people in the clip are probably Pakistanis, not Arabs.

    1. What did she say, I was looking elsewhere.
      As far as political commentators go:
      Phwoar

      1. How unbelievably shallow can one get?

        However, you bloody well would, wouldnt you??

        1. Oi! Nark it out! I'd go Phwoar over her too.
          Both for her appearance and her politics.

        1. I didn't tend to watch GBN, but if the WHYB alludes to the last couple of days: having an angioplasty.

          1. Blimey sos! You kept that quiet, or have I missed something?
            How did it go?

          2. Very very well, thanks, next review in a year.
            Because so many Nottlers suffer from it, I hesitate to post because the French health care makes the envy of the world look Third World.

            Stress test done last week, the next day the appointment for the angioplasty came in by email:
            See you next Thursday, here is all the necessary paperwork and pre entry requirements.

            Tuesday this week had a phone call to ask if everything was OK for me!!!!

            Arrive 3 pm yesterday as advised. Totally assessed and in for monitoring overnight.
            Prepped at 8 am today
            9.30 wheeled in.
            Not good fun, to be fair, but painless.
            11 wheeled out.
            Results produced, Consultant explains everything.
            4pm heading home.

    2. I believe the native Dutch will be a minority in the Netherlands in just 5 years time…..

  51. Pick your way through this…

    Labour MP Kim Leadbeater has shepherded the bill through the Commons and speaking to the BBC after the vote she said she was "over the moon".

    "I know what this means for terminally ill people and their loved ones."

    She added it had been a "particularly emotional week" because it marked nine years since the murder of her sister Jo Cox, who had been a Labour MP at the time.

    "Jo used to say if good people don't step forward and come into politics then what do we end up with? And even though some of us feel quite out of place in this place at times we are here to make a difference and we're here to make positive change that society has asked us to do."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgeqj1egxvyo

    1. Has anybody done the analysis of how MPs voted over this, and the Abortion Bill? – it might be interesting to see who voted for both, voted against both etc etc – a sort of Venn Diagram of Murder?

      1. I've seen a (very ) short clip of Dianne Abbott, sounding to make sense, will try to search it out.

        1. She spoke very movingly against this ghastly bill. My opinion of her changed. She may be thick but, boy, her heart is in the right place. Only reservation: she just had to play the race card as to who the most disadvantaged would be. Nevertheless

      2. That would be a brilliant letter to the DT:

        Sir
        Would an analysis of how MPs voted over the Assisted Dying, and the Abortion, and the Pakistani rape gang bills, produce a Venn Diagram of the most heartless creatures in the UK?

          1. There's a civic service in church on Sunday. If she turns up (and looks awkward, not knowing what to do because she has a VIP seat at the front and can't find out without looking round and making it obvious) I may tell her what I think of her and her votes.

          2. I have oft thought of writing to her, Conners, on various subjects that are ruining our lives, but do know all too well how much these people will dismiss, smear and guffaw. I just hope they can be ousted by hook or by crook before the damage they are wreaking is irreversible.

          3. I fear there would be little point in writing, but she can hardly avoid my standing in front of her and telling her how disappointed I am that she has turned out to be a baby murderer and pensioner killer.

          4. She will most probably scoff and mock and call you names. This is how they operate.

          5. You do that, Conners. Somebody has to be open about hos these shites are seen, and correct their behaviour.

    2. Evil witch. I’d almost have more respect for her if she was honest about her murderous intentions. Almost.

        1. She looks like what she is. As does Blair. Sir Tony. These people are servants of the Devil.

    3. Doubtless Stephen Hawking and other like him, in temporary moments of despair, would have been seen off before they achieved their finest works.

          1. I believe we have an expert on this – a Sun Spokesfish – on this very forum. How lucky we are!

          2. I've bumped into them a few times. The worst occasion was when a very large one got caught up in our guns and it got dragged onboard. I used to have a photograph of the poor dead thing, a huge specimen.

          3. We're certainly not 'rare' on the south coast. There are more seen during the summer. Big'uns go up to a metric tonne or more.
            "Ocean sunfish are native to the temperate and tropical waters of every ocean in the world."

    1. To be fair, the Indian captain said he would have fielded if he won the toss – the bowlers just didnt exploit the conditions….

      1. The reputation of Headingley trumped the good sense of the captains. It's been so dry for so long that this wasn't going to be a typical Leeds pitch.

        1. Yes, as the old adage goes – if you win the toss, 9 times out of ten you bat – the tenth time you think about it and then bat…….

      1. If Woakes couldn't make it swing then there wasn't any to be had (though I don't know what make of ball they were using).

  52. Jaw-jaw must sometimes lead to war-war. That's a truth the BBC and Trump don't get

    The US President's approach to war has much more in common with that of his fiercest critics than he would care to admit

    Charles Moore
    20 June 2025 3:39pm BST

    Yes, jaw-jaw is better than war-war, as Churchill (more or less) said. But if we in the West blindly regard jaw-jaw as the solution to all international conflicts, our enemies will exploit this to push ahead with war-war. Churchill told us so after Munich in 1938, and he was right.

    This week, Sir Keir Starmer called for "negotiation to resolve the crisis" of Israel/Iraq. Lyse Doucet, the BBC's chief international correspondent, pleaded on Thursday that "Iran was negotiating" before Israel's raids, so there was "a narrow sliver of hope" of further talks, but "unfortunately, it does come down to President Trump." Yet if negotiations could resolve everything, Iran would never have got near developing the Bomb.

    For its entire, almost half-century existence, the Islamic Republic of Iran has publicly preached and frequently practised war-war against (in descending order of severity) Israel, the United States and Britain. It has used different forms of violent aggression – hostage-taking, the murder of dissidents, acts of terrorism, the funding, training and directing of proxy armies (above all, Hezbollah) – while engaging in just enough jaw-jaw to keep us at bay.

    A comparable phenomenon, abused for comparable purposes, was the "Minsk process" of talks between Russia, France and Germany (on behalf of the OSCE), and Ukraine. Vladimir Putin exploited this talkathon to advance his war against Ukraine until, in 2022, he invaded, repudiating the process. Jaw-Jaw gave cover to war-war. [Really? I think that's only half the story.]

    In this century, Iran sought more war-war. It began a nuclear programme, eventually including uranium enrichment whose only purpose is to make nuclear weapons. Trying to contain this, Western powers, led by the United States, jaw-jawed with Iran, producing the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPoA). The Joint bit hampered the Action bit and so first-term Trump closed it down, but new negotiations later began.

    As the International Atomic Energy Agency recently confirmed, Iran went ahead with enrichment anyway. Without Israel's recent intervention, Iran would not have been seriously punished. By now, it might even have nuclear bombs ready to go.

    Last year, Iran went beyond covert measures and directly bombed Israel on two occasions. Again, Western condemnation was muted; today, although Israeli courage and professionalism have decapitated so many heads of the Hydra, Western diplomacy still seems determined to let those heads regrow.

    Since Thursday, it has even seemed possible that Donald Trump, exercising his jaw-jaw muscles, might revert to his "Give me the Nobel Peace Prize" mode and offer Iran a positively last chance to avoid the destruction of its Bomb.

    The reason why all this jaw-jaw has been so unsatisfactory is not solely because Iran has such a horrible regime. Sometimes, extremists do change their minds or can be persuaded their aggression is unprofitable. Such a claim is often made, for example, about the IRA and the Belfast Agreement (although personally, I have my doubts). But no jaw-jaw can work without trust.

    In decade after decade, the ayatollahs have proved they cannot be trusted. They love fooling the West. They will be rejoicing today that so many of our legal experts, diplomats and politicians have already managed to forget the countless examples of Iranian aggression against Israel and speak of Israeli bombing as "unprovoked".

    Currently, great efforts by experts in the West are trying to show that US (or British) military support for Israel's attack on Iran would be illegal, although in fact Israel's claim of self-defence, and our consequent right to support that self-defence, is legally strong.

    If, as President Trump now hints, he backs off, the Iranian theocrats will not respect him or America. They will simply believe more fervently that Allah is on their side. Rather than thanking Americans as doves, they will mock them as chickens.

    Here in Britain, rhetorically at least, the Government is belatedly focussing on national security. It is increasing defence spending (although much of this involves reclassification rather than more money). But all the time, the instincts of Sir Keir Starmer, human rights lawyer, pull the wrong way.

    Sir Keir's Attorney-general and old legal chum, Lord Hermer, enthusiastically amplifies his master's voice, having from the start committed the Government to what critics call "hyper-legalism" – a controlling role for lawyers in all relevant aspects of domestic, defence and foreign policy.

    The classic, and now alarmingly relevant, example is the Chagos Islands deal. Before he was in office, Lord Hermer, as a lawyer, attacked British rule in the islands. As Attorney-General, he is the strongest advocate of Britain handing the islands over to Mauritius and paying for the privilege. That damaging agreement has now been made, though not yet ratified.

    Lord Hermer is further arguing behind the scenes in Whitehall that, under the Chagos deal, Britain should prevent the United States from sending its bunker-busting bombers from the Diego Garcia base there which we lent them. He seems to think Britain would be complicit in "illegal war" if it helped its main ally.

    A new paper from the think-tank Policy Exchange warns that the Chagos Islands agreement could be used against us and, by extension, against America, by Mauritius, the country to which we are ceding the islands. Mauritius has unhealthily close relations with China, a major supporter of Iran. It could claim that the treaty's obligation to "expeditiously inform" it, means that we could be forced to disclose in advance missions flown from Diego Garcia. It would be entitled to take "counter measures" against us if we did not comply.

    It rather looks as if President Trump forgot his own "America First" policy when he let Britain's Chagos deal go through without complaint. The Starmer/Hermer legalistic mindset is a severe impediment to the alliances which help keep the world safe. You cannot imagine the Attlee Labour government of 1945, the first to acquire our atomic bomb, getting Britain into such a tangle.

    Hyper-legalism is characteristic of the Left, but if that were the only problem the West faces, it would be containable. The other alarming factor is Trump. His oft-proclaimed love of a deal is his buccaneering, Right-wing version of jaw-jaw. Could they but see it, those MAGA men have plenty in common with the prissy diplomats, international lawyers and Lyse Doucets of this world, shunning the power of the West.

    Like those diplomats, lawyers and Doucets, but with a lot more swagger, Mr Trump believes that talking (especially talking by him) has a sort of automatic magic which can melt cold-hearted dictators and bring peace and prosperity. Unlike same, he envisages it not as part of a global legal order but as one big guy (him) shaking hands with another – and winning.

    In these pages on Tuesday, I "half-satirically", floated the idea that a peace deal between Israel and Iran could now come from President Putin, "slyly endorsed by President Trump".

    Do not rule out this possibility. This week, Putin – who happily buys Iranian drones to kill Ukrainians – held his version of Davos, in St Petersburg, surrounded by his satraps. There he repeated his offer to mediate in the war. Trump's right-hand man, Steve Witkoff, a Putin groupie, is talking to him.

    It would suit Mr Trump's version of jaw-jaw if he and Putin could club together to bring "peace" to the Middle East and in the process – why not? – to Ukraine, dividing a large part of the world between them. If you like that sort of peace, dear reader, we must part company. The peace of the world needs the collapse of this Iranian regime.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/20/bbc-trump-iram-starmer-ukraine-israel-war-approach-starmer

    I feel a bit dizzy. Charlie, who has often expressed his dislike for Trump, is now criticising him for not getting involved in Iran, even though he, like others, praised him for not taking the USA into wars in his previous term. He returns to nornal near the end, invoking the idea of a Trump-Putin carve-up of the world.

    1. To anyone who hasn't read it, I recommend Jonathan Dimbleby's Barbarossa. The parallels between that and what is happening in the ME and Ukraine are very, very scary.
      Behind the scenes negotiations, pacts created and broken, mass murder.
      Here we go again.

    1. Nowhere near as spectacular, but we took the bus around Sifnos, one of the Greek Islands.
      I certainly would not have wished to be the driver.
      It took a busload of children to and from schools and an accident would have decimated the Island's children.
      The road was so steep at the sides and so narrow that I would have hesitated to drive a Mini, let alone a large bus.

    2. Makes driving down the Corniche to Monte Carlo while operating 2m look a doddle.

  53. On the Church of England website it says that there was a letter from over 200 clergy published in the Telegraph today about the baby killing bill. Did anyone see it? I would like to see who signed it and what it says. I saw a Telegraph article, but not the letter itself.

    1. Rev Richard Bastable
      Rev Joshua Pollard
      Rev Joseph Barnes
      Rev Liam Beadle
      Rev Sean Gilbert
      Rev Richard Brown
      Rev Mark Walley
      Rev Lewis Oliver-Hemmings-Faye
      Rev Jordan McDermott
      Rev Aidan Bartlett
      Rev Ian Chandler
      Rev Timothy Newton
      Rev Alice Smith
      Rev Grant Lambert Naylor
      Rev Matthew Austen
      Rev Kerry Evans
      Rev Ian Nott
      Rev Adam Wogan
      Rev Dr Ben Sargent
      Rev James Kenny
      Rev David Warner
      Rev Daniel Heaton
      Rev Daniel Vickerstaff
      Rev Canon James Elston
      Rev Guy Willis
      Rev Edward Morrison
      Rev Canon Christopher Robinson
      Rev Jonathan Bish
      Rev Dr Simon Oakes
      Rev James Hill
      Rev David Craven
      Rev James Pennington
      Rev Michael Print
      Rev Roger Parker
      Rev Dr Aneirin Glyn
      Rev Glen Brooks
      Rt Rev Philip North
      Bishop of Blackburn
      Rev Dr Tom Woolford
      Rev Jean Kouacou
      Rev Luke Demetri
      Rev Kevin Smith
      Rev Damian Porter
      Rev Ryan Otley
      Rev Canon John Hall
      Rev Calum Mullett
      Rev Michael Vyse
      Rev Dr Patrick Gilday
      Rev Eddie Carr
      Rev Canon Paul Cartwright
      Rev Barbara Hunter
      Rev Deacon Rachel Fielding
      Rev Nicholas Davis
      Rev Philip Kennedy
      Rev Sam Cross
      Rev Damian Feeney
      Rev Richard Lonsdale
      Rev Richard Norman
      Rev Canon Anthony Howe
      The Venerable Simon Fisher
      Rev Philip Corbett
      Rev Tom Brown
      Rev David Ackerman
      Rev Nicholas Johnson
      Rev Dr Lee Gatiss
      Rev Andrew Downes
      Rev Adrian David Lyon
      Rev Angus Beattie
      Rev Marcus Walker
      Rev Thomas Pelham
      Rev Alexander Honey
      Rev Samuel S Thorp
      Rev Canon Richard Parker
      Rev Timothy Handley
      Rev Ian Fletcher
      Rev Christopher Lee
      Rev Jon Tuckwell
      Rev Duncan Hollands
      Rev Gary Clink
      Rev (Capt) Dominic Holroyd
      Rev Ross Brooks
      Rt Rev Jonathan Baker
      Bishop of Fulham
      Rev Dr Thomas Ruston
      Rev Richard Mutter
      Rev Stephen Miller
      Rt Rev Dr Jonathan Gibbs
      Bishop of Rochester
      Rt Rev Ruth Bushyager
      Bishop of Horsham
      Rt Rev Paul Thomas
      Bishop of Oswestry
      Rev Dr Philip Krinks
      Rt Rev Mark Rylands
      Rt Rev Stephen Race
      Bishop of Beverley
      Rev Adam Gaunt
      Rev Dr Andrew Goddard
      Rt Rev Luke Irvine-Capel
      Bishop of Richborough
      Rev Andrew Bailey
      Rt Rev Martin Warner
      Bishop of Chichester
      Rev Nicolas Boisson
      Rev Kathryn Tiernan
      Rev Dr Graham Tomlin
      Rt Rev Dr Emma Ineson
      Bishop of Kensington
      Rev Stephen Gallagher
      Rev Timothy Davies
      Rev William Ellis
      Rev Richard Stanton
      Rt Rev Stephen Conway
      Bishop of Lincoln
      Rev Stephen Thorp
      Rt Rev Esther Prior
      Bishop of Aston
      Rev Alice Bishop
      Rev Canon Dr Andrew Bishop
      Rev Jonathan Bell
      Rt Rev Dr Michael Volland
      Bishop of Birmingham
      Rev MJ Roe
      Rev David Povall
      Rev Lindsay Urwin
      Rev Neil Dalley
      Rev Graham Summers
      Rev Dr Andy Bawtree
      Rev James Robinson
      Rev Samuel Dennis
      Rev Peter Deaves
      Rev Duncan Hegan
      Rev Toby Boutle
      Rev Russell Dewhurst
      Rev Richard Trethewey
      Rev Adam Burnham
      Rev Matthew Hornby
      Rev Ian Smith
      Rev Graham Dowling
      Rev Michael Hayden
      Rev Benjamin Rabjohns
      Rev Adam Denley
      Rev Paul Worledge
      Rev Anthony Everett
      Rev Peter Chamberlin
      Rev Steve Short
      Rev Stuart Labran
      Rev Paul Benfield
      Rev Sam Charles Norton
      Rev Matthew Swires-Hennessy
      Rev Christopher Phillips
      Rev David Brae
      Rev John Wigmore
      Rev Ann Mackenzie
      Rev Rich Cresswell
      Rev Canon Dr Jeremy Haselock
      Rev Les Jesudason
      Rev Dr Harri Williams
      Rev William Rogers
      Rev Joe Houghton
      Rev James Bremner
      Rev Canon Gary Ecclestone
      The Venerable Christopher Bryan
      Rev Dr Daniel Inman
      The Venerable Pete Spiers
      Rev Shiela Porter
      Rev Dr Jon Taylor
      Rev Robert Wright
      Rev Daniel French
      Rev Stephen Jullien
      Rev Katie Thomas
      Rev Paul Eddy
      Rev Stephen Trott
      Rev Philip Barnes
      Rev Tom Parsons
      Rev Dexter Bracey
      Rev Tim Vasby-Burnie
      Rev Graham Hamilton
      Rev John X Leal
      Rev Capt Thomas Sander
      Rev Edward Mathias-Jones
      Rev Matthew Ralph
      Rev Canon Gareth Jones
      Rev Dr Thomas Renz
      Rev Stephen Carter
      Rev David Whale
      Rev Jonny Dade
      Rev Millie Day
      Rev Timothy Gage
      Rev Nicholas Pye
      Rev Peter Welby
      Rev David Green
      Rev Dr Dan Christian
      Rev Mark Mawhinney
      Rev Canon Tim Pike
      Rt Rev William Hazelwood
      Bishop of Lewes
      Rev Richard Eves
      Rev Keith Roddy
      Rev Ben Scott
      Rev Thomas Lake
      Rev Adam Wogan
      Rev Sion Hughes Carew
      Rev Christopher Trundle
      Rev Stephen Anderson
      Rev Andrew Cowan
      Rev Chris Kilgour
      Rev Ben Paul Jennings
      Rev Chris Bishop
      Rev Canon Teresa Wynne
      Rev Robert W Hart
      Rev Timothy Edwards
      Rev Dr Anand Sodadasi
      Rev Hugh Barne

        1. Against. But that is a valid question! And as someone in the DT commented, what about all the ones who didn't sign it? are they in favour of baby killing?

          1. Will do but it’s usually the anti-Trump Bishop of Shrewsbury (Sarah Bullock) who deals with us.

        1. Good to see Marcus on the list. I’d have been very disappointed if he wasn’t there.

      1. I was looking something up about a guy I was at school with, wondering if he might have signed this one.
        Stifle a chuck-le ho ho, see what I did there…

        Republican controversy
        On the announcement of the engagement of Prince William of Wales to Catherine Middleton, Broadbent declared on Facebook that he is a republican, said that the couple were "shallow celebrities" who would be "set up to fail by the gutter press", and predicted that their marriage would last less than seven years. He also called the royal family "philanderers" and said that the basis of the monarchy is "corrupt and sexist", while disparagingly referring to William's parents, Charles, Prince of Wales, and Diana, Princess of Wales, as "Big Ears" and the "Porcelain Doll".[16] His views were reported in various Sunday newspapers and were widely condemned. Conservative MP Nicholas Soames, a close friend of the Prince of Wales, described Broadbent's comments as "extremely rude" and "not what one expects from a bishop".[16]

        Broadbent subsequently issued an apology for his remarks[17] and agreed to "withdraw from public ministry until further notice" on 23 November 2010.[18] Richard Chartres, Bishop of London (and a close friend of the Prince of Wales), said that he was "appalled" by Broadbent's comments and expressed his "dismay on behalf of the Church".[19] It was announced on 10 January 2011 that Broadbent was to return to duty that day, both as Bishop of Willesden and acting Bishop of Stepney.[20] He remained as acting Bishop of Stepney until 22 July 2011 (when the new bishop, Adrian Newman was consecrated).[21]

        Lurve to know what he thinks about Harry and Me Yet Again!

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Broadbent

  54. That's better: had to refresh, as Disqus wasn't allowing me to comment, just showing a grey box, not the usual comment field.

    1. SIR – We are troubled by the amendment voted through the House of Commons to decriminalise terminations in utero up to full term. As many elected politicians move further away from the Christian moral values that have hitherto shaped much that is good in our national life, our concern is that the vulnerable and voiceless are increasingly overlooked.

      The tragedy of abortion invariably moves us to compassion for the pregnant woman, yet we are mindful of the viability of the life of her child, who also deserves compassion and needs protection under the law. This huge change in our understanding of the place of the termination of pregnancies risks overlooking the vulnerable position of women who are victims of sexual and domestic abuse and coercion, which is all the more acute due to the availability of the abortion pill by post, without recourse to in-person consultation with a medical professional.

      All of this makes for a dangerous change, which we believe, far from protecting women, places pregnant women and unborn children at even greater risk of harm than previously. It is our sincere hope that this legislation will be further modified in the House of Lords to protect the vulnerable.

        1. I do wonder whether "ennoblement" mightn't make some people gain a sense of responsibility to their fellow man. A conscience. It does seem to happen for some.

          1. I think for some it does. Others think it’s their right, a natural progression. I read some years ago many turn up, sign in in order to claim their daily allowance, then b*gger off (until the next time). I think now it should be elected by and made accountable to the GBP.

      1. Much too restrained – I don't see the words "baby killers" anywhere!
        Still want to hug all who signed it though.

  55. The Lions are 21-10 down to Argentina at half-time in their warm-up game in Dublin before they set off for Australia.

    I'm not sure I'd have chosen Argentina as the warm-up game – the Lions, despite their stars, are a scratch side at the moment and the Pumas are officially ranked 5 in the world, and can beat anybody on their day.

    They should have played the Outer Hebrides or Tristan da Cunha….. oh well, there's 40 minutes to go……

    PS they'll hammer the Aussies anyway.

    1. As it's looking it's certainly testing their resolve.
      Perhaps it wasn't such a bad choice of a starter after all.
      Assuming they win it!

    2. They had a "nailed on" penalty and kicked for touch.
      Now they have a nailed on penalty that would win it if they had taken the first opportunity.
      Let's hope they get the try from this one!

    1. They are nuts. Even RFK's family says he is nuts. The last thing we need is some conspiracy theorist in charge of public health.

      1. I disagree with your analysis Jack. There are some very bright and principled folk recently appointed replacing a number taking grants from Pharma….

      2. The family of RFK are grifters. Without the Kennedy name these relatives would be judged ordinary fools with issues and completely and justly ignored. I am sure Bobby Kennedy still loves them.

        Fauci is a criminal and as it happens the person responsible for AIDS. The MRNA vaccines are proven to be harmful to public health. Whilst there are still many people who trust implicitly in the advice given by the Fauci component many are now skeptical given the growing evidence of serious harms arising from the Covid “vaccines”.

      3. Five studies showing link between aluminium in vaccines and various chronic sicknesses
        https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/five-studies-link-aluminum-vaccine?publication_id=1119676&post_id=166336915&isFreemail=true&r=28gmek&triedRedirect=true&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

        Data from Japan showing death spike only in vaccinated people 4-5 months after the jabs:
        https://www.vigilantfox.com/p/japan-releases-bombshell-vax-vs-unvax?publication_id=975571&post_id=166186844&isFreemail=true&r=28gmek&triedRedirect=true&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

        There are loads more studies where these came from. Everything in RFK’s book The Real Dr Anthony Fauci is referenced to scientific studies or official reports.
        Pity the same can’t be said for the media who claim it’s all nuts.

        I don’t know RFK Jr’s motivation or how deeply he is compromised (100% would be my guess – he will make a lot of noise but disturb big pharma very little) however it would be foolish to argue against the veracity of what he has published. Even Fauci implicitly acknowledges that, because he has not sued him for the book.

    2. Hang on Wired. "Robert Malone a mainstay in conspiratorial circles" who even Wokipedia acknowledge "He is credited for the first successful transfection of designed mRNA packaged within a liposomal nanoparticle." That Robert Malone?

      1. The same.
        He has some pretty bitter disputes going on with others in the medical rebellion space, and it has been murmured that he is too close to the medical establishment to be credible (i.e. deep fake who is then appointed to high places and will do nothing. Time will tell I suppose, and one cannot afford to accept anything unquestioningly anyway. But I follow his substack because he posts interesting stuff.

  56. I so hate the hot weather
    You open your double glazed windows after searching for the window lock keys you put away last year, only to hear a load of noisy bastards outside.

  57. Everyone is scared': Iranians head to Armenia to escape conflict with Israel

    Are we receiving mixed messages about life in Iran ?

    Is Iran a bit more normal than we assume , should we involve ourselves?

    All the articles I have read seem to appear to be life is stable , the bods in Iran are happy, and the uprising that Israel is banking on will not materialise

    "Someone comes and attacks your country, would you feel normal?"

    Some Israeli ministers have talked up the possibility that the conflict could lead to regime collapse in Iran.

    But Javad – who had been visiting the north-eastern city of Sabzevar for the summer holidays and was heading back to Germany – said he thought this was unlikely.

    "Israel has no chance. Israel is not a friend for us, it's an enemy," he said. "Israel cannot come to our home to help us. Israel needs to change something for itself not for us."

    Some Iranians at the border however were crossing were travelling in the other direction. The previous evening, Ali Ansaye, who had been holidaying in Armenia with his family, was heading back to Tehran.

    "I have no concerns, and I am not scared at all. If I am supposed to die, I will die in my country," he said.

    He said Israel was "harassing the entire world – Gaza, Lebanon and other countries".

    "How can such a small country have nuclear weapons?" he asked. "Based on which law can this country have a bomb, and Iran, which has only focused on peaceful nuclear energy and not a bomb, cannot?"

    Israel is widely believed to have nuclear weapons, although it neither confirms nor denies this.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ge7ej6824o

  58. Well this week will go down well in the annuls of loony left mass murder, legalisation of state approval of the termination of up to full term babies and the termination of elderly people that are a bit of a nuisance and expense to public services, all overseen by people that allowed the grooming gang scandals and gave experimental vaccines to millions of people regardless of their safety.
    Yes we have turned a new corner alright.

      1. We've turned a corner, taken the brakes off and are heading full pelt down the slippery slope to Damnation.

    1. I've had two further emails from my MP attempting to explain why he voted for termination of life at the start and end of life.

        1. He hasn't mentioned those – perhaps I should ask him for his thoughts on those.

          1. Well the logic is that if one is bumping off the unborn and permitting the elderly to pop their clogs to save nursing home fees someone has got to do the Undertaking!

    1. The oddest part of it is that they genuinely think they are being compassionate.

      May they all get dementia and be sentenced to death by carers who can't cope.
      There, how's that for being compassionate?

    1. "Someone on here the other night mentioned Giles having seen the light."

      That was me about his appearance on The Moral Maze when he said Israel and the USA shouldn't think twice about taking out Iran's nuclear facility.

  59. So here we have the new criteria for future Western civilisation.
    Babies – Bad x
    Old People with health issues – Very Bad xx
    Imported young men of fighting age with dark age ideology – Very good xxxx

  60. In church, in front of the congregation (who would be her constituents)? Wouldn't look good, would it?

    1. I don't know what looks good to these people, Conners, and am constantly surprised (wrong footed) when faced with their intractable ideology

  61. I signed the Great Barrington Declaration when it first came out and I still think they were right.

    1. I can't understand what these political people are actually trying to achieve.
      Why are they trying to insist that people who have terminal illness should have to end their lives.
      As they are much older than the basic Wastemonster morons will the Lords and ladies also stick their own necks out for the chop ?

      1. Palliative care is expensive on a daily basis (eye wateringley expensive), Eddy. Ending life…. not so much. And I suspect that it is the forerunner to Something Else. This is the normalisation process.

    1. Sometimes we find ourselves in strange situations…..getting up to lay down. 🙃

  62. I've Been stuck in my new reclining chair nearly all day it's very comfortable we bought it just in time for my knee operation. My word with all the medication I'm taking I certainly need to be almost horizontal nearly all day. Two paracetamol and quite a few others, every 5 hours very restful.
    Goodnight all 😴☺️

      1. Sleep well Conners and all Nottlers.
        Ponder what has happened today in our once civilised country.

        1. Once morality was removed, there is nothing to keep people on the straight and narrow.

  63. Good evening, chums. It's now my bedtime, so I will wish you all a Good Night. Sleep well, and I hope to see you all early tomorrow morning.

    PS – I've had the devil of a job posting on here today, but my inability seems to have at last sorted itself out.

        1. Snap, yes , I watered the garden this evening , 18.30, and the humidity left me a dripping wreck , even though I was meant to be splashing cool water on the plants and the pots , tripping over the hose. .

          A cloud appeared , and it felt so oppressive .. then it moved on. I had the fan on in the living room, Moh doesn't really feel the heat , different blood group!

  64. So the government are now dressed up in the guise of Harold Shipman .

    A monumental mistake to play at God.

    What is palliative care?
    More preferable , surely?
    Palliative care is the care and support given to people with life-limiting conditions like cancer, heart failure and lung disease. It aims to give people the best quality of life possible. It focuses on managing pain and other symptoms over the weeks, months or years someone is living with a life-limiting condition.

    Palliative care includes the practical and emotional support people and those close to them need in order to spend the time they have left in the way they choose.

    1. "Palliative care includes the practical and emotional support people and those close to them need in order to spend (or end) the time they have left in the way they choose."
      My 'bold', as I don't want to linger as a bed-ridden burden to my family.

      Hi, Belle, haven't been following Parliament's take on all this. I wouldn't trust them to look after a puppy for 5 minutes.

      1. Hey Mola,

        Re the Sunfish that was seen off the Dorset coast , why are they the boniest fish , how on earth do the escape from predators , and why are they so awkward looking , are they related to pufferfish?

        1. They're just a lump of gristle and bone, so predators just aren't interested. If you ever come across one they appear to be floundering as opposed to swimming. This might be why I used molamola as my nottl name, I'm a poor swimmer.
          Mind you, they produce a prodigious amount of eggs.

    2. There is a chance that the HoL will run out of time, as with the Lord Falconer bill a few years ago, although no doubt he will do his utmost to shepherd it into life. I am just disgusted by it all.

  65. 5.4 earthquake in Iran identical to earthquake in N Korea before Kim bowed to Trump. What an extraordinary coincidence!

  66. In the event that I am unable to post my Wordle tomorrow: Birdie here.

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