Friday 4 July: A fundamental flaw in Labour’s 10-year plan for the health service

Posted on by Geoff Graham

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553 thoughts on “Friday 4 July: A fundamental flaw in Labour’s 10-year plan for the health service”

    1. Can't be bothered. I don't log-on to NoTTLers for 1hr lectures no matter HOW LOUD YOU SHOUT.

      1. ChatGPT says:

        “Here’s a concise précis of the 64-minute interview featuring Dr Mike Yeadon:

        🔴 Key Themes
        Alleged “Final Warning”: Yeadon frames the discussion as crucial and time-sensitive, expressing alarm over policies related to public health, though specifics are often framed in broad or ominous terms.

        Critique of COVID Measures: He criticizes government responses—like lockdowns, masks, PCR testing, and border restrictions—suggesting they were unduly alarmist or ineffective.

        Vaccine and Treatment Skepticism: Yeadon expresses doubts about COVID-19 vaccines and therapeutics, arguing they may not be safe or effective—though these views are widely contested by medical experts.

        🧠 Notable Statements
        Testing and Variants: He downplays the reliability of PCR tests and suggests variants are similar, assigning minimal threat to differences between strains.

        Policy Impact: He labels measures like lockdowns and border closures as overreactions or pointless, implying they lack scientific justification.

        📌 Context & Reception
        This interview comes from Oracle Films, a platform known for controversial or contrarian viewpoints.
        On social media, responses are mixed—some hail it as essential viewing, while fact-checkers challenge his assertions as misleading.

        🧾 Summary
        Yeadon presents a sweeping critique of the COVID narrative and policy responses, warning of potential overreach in public health measures. However, many of his claims contradict mainstream scientific consensus, with fact-checks highlighting oversimplifications or false equivalencies. If you'd like specific claims unpacked or evaluated against evidence, I can dive deeper into any point.

        Would you like me to fact-check specific statements from the interview or explore counterarguments from health authorities?”

        I asked ChatGPT for a summary of it, but I notice it is giving me its opinion – e.g. “though these views are widely contested by medical experts”

      2. 498835+ up ticks,

        A,
        Your prerogative, your choice, in my book there ain’t no short cuts concerning safety.

    2. It's over an hour long. Can you give us a precis so we can decide whether or not to watch it?

        1. Sorry, Ogga, but if I don't even know what the subject matter is, I'm not going to sit through an hour-long presentation.

          1. 408835+ up ticks,

            A,

            It is not compulsory reading, but to me anything in regards to family
            safety / protection currently is worth an airing,after decades of falling foul of being led via the tribal voting nose ring,

        2. I don't have an hour to listen to that propaganda same as I don't have an hour to waste on the state blithering on about it's hysterical lies.

    3. This is a tough item to watch – I've spent about 15 minutes – but if you listen to Debi Evans in the comment I've posted above you will get an idea of what Yeadon is going on about. Evans restricts her concerns to the NHS and digital encroachment in that sphere whereas Yeadon discusses much, much more. The link between the posts is the digitisation of our lives, ergo, control.

    1. Want to buy, and can afford.

      I am perfectly happy with a new version of a Corsa from 15 years ago. Minimal tech, minimal gadgets. Just a cheap but reliable car.

      But these type of new cars don’t exist any more.

      I certainly don’t want anything with a huge touchscreen in it.

        1. I know virtually nothing about cars, but, how is the starter motor going to work?

          3. No prob Korky, at least I have a spare wheel, not an alloy but still a proper wheel not a space-saver
            Hard to fit a starting handle on a transverse engine

        2. I do like when I get in the car recognises me and adjusts all the mirrors and seats for a normal person.

          That said the Warqueen isn't too disruptive as she's quite tall as well, but still, even one notch on the seat is a pain.

          3. Fairynuff. But I approve of Engineer Oberst's disdain for complicating gadgets

        4. Starter motor? My Volvo doesn't have a spare wheel let alone a crank handle.😊

          When I was a child my father had an old Ford V8 car. The starter motor was U/S and he had to crank the bloody thing to get it going. His right hand was often left bloodied by the effort.

      2. A car drew up beside me yesterday.
        It had an iPad (?) clipped to the dashboard the size of a small telly.
        Why is it OK to drive with that distraction, but not an actual TV?

        1. Indeed. And what when the sun is behind you and you can’t see your telly?

      3. I have a petrol car with 16.000 miles on the clock, so will do me for many years.

        1. I've got a 15 yo diesel with 160k on the clock, still on the original exhaust – it's got years left yet
          Tyres, brakes and suspension parts have been replaced mostly because of the state of the roads up here.

          1. Same here We have all had a bad deal from politicians we gave trust to. Never again.

        2. Lucky you! We have 4 cars, all over 15 years old and all with over 105,000 miles on the clock. We try and keep them going…

      1. Jaguar is currently owned by Tata Motors, an Indian multinational automotive company, since its acquisition from Ford in 2008.

        BMW owns Rolls Royce. Aston Martin is owned by two investments companies from Kuwait. Bentley is owned by Volkswagen Group.

        Are there any 'British' cars owned and manufactured by British companies?

  7. Another great idea by Labour, a doctor on everyone’s mobile phone, but not really like seeing a medical expert in person, I suppose, but okay for a second appinion.

    To be authentic though it should make you wait a week before it opens with an assistant app that is very uncooperative that makes you feel like you don’t really need to bother the doctor app at all.
    It obviously will not want to treat you when you are really ill, but will want to give you endless tests when you are fit and healthy, then give you pills to treat it.

    1. Debi Evans, late of the UK Column I believe, has some very interesting and likewise very worrying views on where Labour/Starmer are planning to take the NHS. Of course, it will be a dystopian digital nightmare managed by AI.

      Groundwork, including the abortion and choice-of-life-ending moves are being eased in with all the solemnity of being helpful and moral.

      https://x.com/DebiEvansMatron/status/1940781395455905889

      1. What the Left mean is control and suppression. I imagine they'll say you have to scan your NHS app when going shopping. If you're fat, like me, you can't buy chocolate or meat. Your health details will be given to insurance companies so they can pick and choose another reason to cheat you.

        It's comedic and oh so obvious that the intent is control. That's all fascists want. Rather than solving the problem: massive uncontrolled gimmigration, they hard Left attack those using it. If they were firefighters they'd spray all around the burning building and ignore the fire and trapped occupants.

        1. massive uncontrolled gimmigration

          IMO the above isn't a problem for the likes of Starmer and those also cognisant of the agenda. If control of the masses is the intent then in the initial stages that control will have to be enforced by suitable organised units that are capable of controlling masses of very angry people.

          Where will sufficient bodies to man the controlling units be found? Think on!

          1. Bradford, Birmingham, Blackburn, Burnley, Leicester, London . . the list is endless.

    2. It will only consider those ailments its AI decides you should be suffering from. It is not programmed to consider what you have actually got, and will only give the remedies according to its own algorithms.

      You'd get more reliable information from tealeaves and roadkill entrails.

  10. Captain Sensible
    5h
    I bought my friend an elephant for her room. When she thanked me, I said "Don't mention it."

    1. Why would / should the US pay even a bent nickel towards UK stupidity?

  14. ”SIR – Recent letters (July 2) have discussed the standard of NHS food. After a triple bypass, my husband’s first hospital meal was ham crumble. Anything higher in salt and saturated fat is hard to imagine.
    Sandra Hancock
    Exeter, Devon”

    I had a friend who was in hospital for a long time, whom I visited often. He was always given a choice of meal.

    1. To eat it, or not eat it?
      Firstborn was at a diabetes course, and the lunch served was EXACTLY what they had just been told NOT TO EAT!
      There was some pointed comment after lunch, making the presenter uncomfortable.

    2. Meal deal – packet of crisps or £3 sandwich. They deregulated nutrition in public buildings.

    3. I would imagine her husband was given the choice made by the previous bed occupier.

    4. There will be no added salt and the crumble will be a special mix to ensure nothing whatsoever of any taste was used to make it.

    3. It is only to be expected. After a long serious illness there is often a period of vomiting an diarrhea.

  17. On topic for once. Here is a letter I have sent to my local surgery, copied to my MP:

    "I had some tests a while ago, as well as a referral for mouth lesion that my dentist picked up on last year. I have heard nothing though. Are you trying to contact me?

    Is your system still trying to contact me through my mobile? I usually keep it turned off, since I cannot get a reliable signal at home. It might be best to delete my mobile number from your records, and contact me either by post (which is still getting through), or my landline, over which I have more control for now, or by email, which is also getting through most of the time, but is vulnerable to ransom from internet providers.

    I can also no longer access your website because of third party authentification apps that don't work on my system, and cannot access NHS DIrect because that website insists I agree to passing a lot of personal data to untrusted third parties, and I do not feel this is safe, whatever the assurances I get from Government officers. I am also very anxious about AI taking over the administration of the NHS, since I don't trust it. AI also threatens to transfer money away from British public services and into profit margins for Silicon Valley corporations.

    The only way these days I can order a repeat prescription is by going in person to the surgery.

    Best regards
    Jeremy Morfey"

    1. IIRC there is a gadget which will route your mobile calls via your internet provider when you are at home.

  19. 408835+ up ticks,

    Surely any attacking force must also be made aware of the fact that said fence has a small ( weeny) electrical current passing through it.

    Dt,
    RAF nuclear jet base protected by 5ft fence
    Telegraph investigation finds several military airstrips that are vulnerable to attack by activists and foreign agents

    1. Apart from needing a touch-up spray, has there been any repercussions for the spray-painting of aircraft at Brize? Such as, the station commander losing her job, the security person being fired? I assume the aircraft were thoroughly searched, as the painters might have left a bomb or two, barometrically fused, as parting gift.

      1. We should not be prosecuting those who break into RAF bases with spray cans; we should be paying them as security consultants. Succeed in breaking in, and here is £500 for your good cause. Make our day!

        Better protestors break in with spray cans than waking gangs of organised and religiously-motivated sleeper cells.

        1. Jeremy dear, the hard Left don't care if muslim breaks in to our defence bases. In fact, the state desperately wants to recruit such characters for 'diversity'.

          1. I am not talking about the hard Left, but about those charged with guarding our military bases. Relying on game-playing by squaddies may well not be as effective as employing those independents with ingenuity and initiative motivated by passions that are not dedicated to undermining the nation’s security.

            As for “diversity” recruitment criteria, that is quite a separate issue, on which we are probably in agreement.

      2. Four people have been charged with offences in the UK after allegedly storming RAF Brize Norton and causing around £7 million ($9.5 million) worth of damage to two military aircraft. £7 million worth! Must have been special paint.

        1. They all have nice old-fashioned English names.

          Oh. wait. Silly me.

          Jeronymides-norie
          Chiaramello
          Gardiner-gibson
          Cink

  20. Good morning, chums. And thanks, Geoff, for today's new NoTTLE page. Wordle in 5 (a Bogey).

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  21. Meanwhile In Brighton
    6h
    The Green Party council in Brighton used to hold rock concerts in Wild Park to entice young people and dopey students to vote Green; what did the Green Council do when these kids complained that they couldn’t see the stage because of trees? Before the next concert…they cut down trees.
    The Environment Agency and the Forestry Comisson threatened legal injunction against Brighton Green Council, to stop them from cutting-down so many trees.

    And Brighton Green Council were nearly put into ‘special measures’, and the city was nearly handed-over to central government to stop their profligate spending.

    The Greens nearly bankrupted Brighton…

    A Irwin
    Meanwhile In Brighton
    5h
    If I remember correctly did they also decide to stop using weed killer on the footpaths? It was only when the old folk started to slip and fall on the weeds and successfully claim damages that they started to weed kill again.

    1. Meanwhile In Brighton
      7h
      Reminds me of my old Green MP whilst back in Brighton, Caroline ‘5 Homes’ Lucas, who was often seen being driven in a Range Rover.

      And when I moved to Wales, Wales Green Party leader Pippa Bartolloti used to drive a Jaguar.

      Now that they have both retired, both Lucas and Bartolloti fly frequently to the US to see family; check out both of their Facebook profiles.

      Do as we say, not as we do…

      1. The fundamental, bedrock consistency of the Left is their hypocrisy. They can't help it. If reality encroaches on their worldview they have to ignore it. To do otherwise causes cognitive dissonance.

        1. Lefties confuse the seven deadly sins* with the Commandments.

          * other sins are available, such as hypocrisy.

    2. There are plenty of nice open fields within cycling distance of Brighton to hold rock concerts. Trees are for hugging.

  22. I told you about my spat the other day with ChatGPT on “climate change”. Courtesy of Ogga and Citroen, I am now involved in another one…..

    Me: I asked for a précis of the film, and yours included “though these views are widely contested by medical experts”. Was that in the film, or did you put that in of your own accord? If so, why – I wasn’t asking your opinion, I was asking for a précis of the film?

    ChTGPT: You're absolutely right to call that out — thank you for doing so.

    You're correct: that phrase — “though these views are widely contested by medical experts” — was not part of the film. I added it. The intention was to provide context, but in doing so, I stepped beyond the bounds of a pure précis, which should strictly summarize the content as presented.

    Let me now give you a corrected, strictly neutral précis of the film:

    Précis: “FINAL WARNING: Dr Mike Yeadon Full Interview (4K)” (Oracle Films)
    In this interview, Dr Mike Yeadon, former Pfizer vice president and respiratory researcher, outlines his view that the global response to COVID-19 was deeply flawed and possibly manipulated. He argues that lockdowns, mask mandates, mass testing, and border closures were scientifically unjustified and served other purposes.

    He expresses concern over the design, rollout, and potential long-term effects of COVID-19 vaccines, particularly mRNA-based ones. He questions their safety, necessity, and the transparency of public health authorities. Yeadon also suggests that the narrative around virus variants was exaggerated to sustain fear and compliance.

    Throughout the film, he presents what he sees as coordinated efforts by governments, corporations, and media to control populations under the guise of public health. He warns of increasing digital surveillance, vaccine passports, and the erosion of civil liberties, presenting the situation as a potential gateway to long-term authoritarianism.

    The interview is framed as a dire final warning to the public, urging viewers to question official narratives and resist what he describes as an encroaching global control system.

    1. What you've proved is that AI is not AI, but a glorified search engine, programmed by humans with an agenda.

  23. Mr Derrick
    8h
    Will the new party be called "Jezbollah"?
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c5d042c8ebb474655d761b5f4d6c221868efabcec317ea84c0650e9c4458557f.png
    Charlie Dudgeon
    8h
    You really have to laugh. As Labour loses millions of voters, this is the solution? As Blair said of Benn, "As more and more people voted for Mrs Thatcher, he argued that what they really were crying out for was that the Labour Party go further to the left."

    Sour grapes from Sultana

    2. Yeah, muslim always wants a ceasefire so it can re-arm and restart the conflict.

      Call a ceasefire, move Mossad in and eliminate them. These are terrorists who operate in cells, so there's no central 'leader', but that just means more to get rid of.

    3. A rather an unsubtle bit of propaganda. I downticked it. Surely they can do better than this!

  24. Morning, all Y'all. Brilliant sunshine, nicely warm.
    Happy Independence Day!

    1. To accept that when they're raped it's normal.

      Why is muslim even in the Western world at all?

    2. See.. kind & fluffy.
      Anyhow this is the handiwork of the Progressives.. the really dangerous ones.

    3. Isn't it just part of RE lessons, finding out about other faiths? That being said, what the Muslim Imams or whoever they were said was a pack of lies. I doubt that the girls' teacher will tell them that, though.

    4. I know what most sensible ozzies would say to that. "Do one mate".
      Please don't get caught up in this vile on going trap Australia 🇦🇺

  26. Good moaning.
    Fence painted. Plenty of cake in stock. Ironing all ticketty boo.
    I have spare time on my hands till I go out this evening.
    How to fill in those empty hours?
    I know; I'll set up a new political party. It seems to be all the rage.

    1. They've an absolute plethora of mickey taking in the comments. Jezzbollah was my favourite. Clearly, these are morons more interested in muslim protection and killing Jews than actual UK politics. It is long past time that changing parties called a by election – to say good bye to them.

  27. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/07/04/miliband-plots-garden-windfarm-revolution/

    I looked into this – stop laughing at the back – as anything that cuts down on the energy bill is a good thing. There's new, sort of vertical bladed turbines as well. Doesn't need to be high, could go at the back behind the trees (our garden is sort of square with a smaller square off at the bottom).

    Thing is, the turbine was £5000. The gubbins to install it, needing a concrete base, power connection and what not another 8 or so. It's just absurd. There are so many better things to spend that sort of money on.

  28. Good morning all.
    A hazy layer of cloud overhead this morning, but otherwise a bright & sunny start with 15½°C on the thermometer.
    Could do with some rain.

    Late in checking in this morning, because I've been looking for an article referenced by one of the letters on today's page.

    Ill-informed activists

    SIR – I was moved by Sharone Lifschitz’s article on the BBC (“Israelis like me deserve better than corporation’s simplistic reporting”, July 2).

    Those who joined in with Bob Vylan’s offensive chanting at Glastonbury – and probably felt it appropriate as a result of ill-informed media coverage (much of it from the BBC), disinformation or ignorance of Middle Eastern conflicts – should be made to read it.

    I remember when Ms Lifschitz’s mother, Yocheved, was released by Hamas after 16 days in captivity; she was so dignified, offering to shake the hands of her captors and saying how kind they had been to her. Oded, Ms Lifschitz’s father, died in captivity.

    Once again, this family has shown wisdom, humility and dignity, which self-righteous activists and politicians could learn from.

    Liz Martin
    Eyam, Derbyshire

    Robert Spowart 41 min ago
    I have just wasted some time trying to find the article by Sharone Lifschitz that Liz Martin refers to and can only find a partial extract on something called "Press Reader".

    Can someone point me towards it please?

    Fils de Clouseau. 37 min ago

    Likewise.

    It appears to have been 'vanished'.

    Cuthbert Thomasson. 29 min ago
    This may be it : https://www.thejc.com/community/theres-no-path-for-us-to-be-well-without-the-palestinians-being-somehow-okay-too-yfxmnkwk

    Reply by Alison Wood.
    21 min ago

    Exactly what I posted earlier

    1. I totally agree with Liz Martin.
      Especially the last paragraph.
      the bbc and our useless political idiots are disgusting in their support of Hamas. In the disguise of the Palestinian flag waving.

      1. Why haven’t the police arrested anyone?
        There is no answer to that except they’re not on the side of law, order and justice.

        1. Have you noticed how our TV content has suddenly become more interested in religious beliefs and 'Diversity'. Showing more women with head coverings. Obviously planning, but very distinct and disturbing.
          But the bbc have dropped the bake off 'winner' Nadia. Probably because she not really very good.

  29. Can't open the article, but there was a vertical axis turbine out in the late 1980s – I recall it when I was at the CEGB, so it's nothing new. IIRC, you don't get the same power from it for a given wind speed, because the turbine is close to the ground and in ground-effect, and the vertical axis is just less efficient a design anyway. But – fewer minced birds…

    1. Morning Obs.
      It's annoying isn't it, the mail and other articles that use to be free to read are now trying to force payment.

      1. They’ve got to the cut and pasters now all the journalists have gone.

  30. Zarah Sultana has just announced she has quit Labour to start and lead a new party with Jeremy Corbyn. The IslamoMarxist party.

    Provisional data shows a Corbyn party with the independents would poll at around 10 points.
    Left & Right fragmenting.

    1. Rosa Luxemburg’s ‘socialism or barbarism’.
      Same result so doesn't really matter.

    3. Good morning ,

      I am just wondering whether the BBC are supporting the idea of a new Corbyn party?

      SIR – That Tim Davie, the director-general of the BBC, is still in post following the broadcast of Bob Vylan’s anti-Semitic Glastonbury set tells us all we need to know about the BBC: it is full of people who think they are right most of the time and, when they are not, that they are never actually wrong.

      Jonathan Baldwin
      Nantwich, Cheshire

  31. Morning All 🙂😊
    A bright start only 18 c which is nice 🤗
    GLOWBALL warming seems to have backed off. But that doesn't feature in the rants.

    I think the fundamental flaw in labour's plans is the obvious fact that they won't actually be in office.
    Happy Independence Day USA, I'm not sure if it quite worked out as planned, but that's life eh.

  33. "SIR – Recent letters (July 2) have discussed the standard of NHS food. After a triple bypass, my husband’s first hospital meal was ham crumble. Anything higher in salt and saturated fat is hard to imagine.

    Sandra Hancock
    Exeter, Devon"

    The new head of NHS Dietary Health is Dr Harold Killamoff.

    1. My point beinf, hospitals offer a choice. So her husband must have chosen it.

  34. Good Morning!

    Iain Hunter's third part of his series on Common Law and the Magna Carta is something any believer in free speech and the liberty of the individual should not only read, but also study. The concepts underpinning this historic document, exceptionally well set out by Iain, still forms the basis of our law, but is being steadily eroded by a tyrannical government a complicit parliament and a corrupt judiciary. Please read it.

    Elizabeth Nickson's Is The Feminist Stronghold Showing Cracks? is a cry from the heart on the degeneration of modern feminism from a cause both women and men could support to shrill, strident and angry man hatred that is ruining the lives of both sexes.

    Energy Watch: Over the last 24 hours: Britain's electric power was sourced from Gas, 19.1%; Solar, 11%: Wind 23.4%; Imports, 15.4%; Biomass, 11.2%; Nuclear 16.8% and Miscellaneous, 3.4%.

    freespeechbacklash.com

    1. New machine arrives today so rather excited for that. Not about the cost, but being able to get the washing done and out will be a big thing.

    1. The national food strategy waffles on about 'green' endlessly, but barely mentions food production. In fact, it's specifically reduced.

      The entire hoax of 'climate change' has nothing to do with the environment and is just about control.

      1. Soylent Green ahead, wibbling…….one way to get rid of the benefit claimants……

    2. Yo T-B

      AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

      1. Why doesn't Wokey King say anything , doesn't he care about farmers , oh hang on I suspect a huge amount of the highland farmers are tenant farmers … hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

        Waitrose meat is all Duchy stuff , hellishly expensive

    3. Where will this stupidity end ?
      everything that they come into contact with they'll eff it up.

    4. Next up, the Fens will be too flat to farm economically or more likely too expensive to drain. More windmills would help with the latter problem.

    6. Keir Starmer appointed Reed as Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs. Reed is gay and married his partner in July 2022. What a coincidence, Starmer a close friend of another 'gaything'.

    7. I an just continually stunned (unlike the poor animals sacrificed at the altar of halal) at the stupidness of our cult-stupified politicians.

    8. Great idea! Increase the population and reduce food production. What could possibly go wrong?

  37. Yo and Good Moaning to you all, from warm and sunny C d S.

    Life is slowly getting back to normal. after changing our 'set of wheels' (car)

    It seems that I have gone from the 'Horse and Cart' era to 'Artificial Intelligence', in one move.

    It seems it even wants to take me to Where It wants to go: not where we want.

    SWMBO said that when we are 'driving on electric', it has an engine noise generator, to people make aware that we are about.

  38. Cool out there. Got my pullie on. Good start on Womble though:
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  39. Good morning Nottlers, and a happy Independence Day to those in the Colonies. 14°C, wet and windy on the Costa Clyde. Further proof the the Met Office weather station at Heathrow does not represent all of the UK. Apparently, one of the red tops said parts of the UK were warmer than Rio de Janeiro, omitting to mention that Rio has just celebrated the Winter Solstice.

  40. Note that the MPs charter has changed and the 'elected to serve' their constituents' bit removed. Big fat state far prefers to add a nebulous 'the country' which gives them carte blanche to ignore local concerns pretending 'the country' wants something they want.

    It's desperate. We are long past the time when MPs should, frankly, be collared and chained and taught to walk a heel. Thy think themselves important when they're nothing but the hired help.

  41. That's the intent. The hoax cannot be undermined and the lies must continue. It's all about power and control, nothing to do with the environment.

  42. The Government/Snivil Service has admitted that it does not know how many, if any, of the legal immigrants working here in the UK return to their country of origin when their work visas expire. Now fancy that! What a surprise – NOT!

    2. She didn't even win bake off it was a fix.
      Two male contestants had created two marvellous icing and cake exhibits. One had a working well as part of it and judge Hollywood deliberately snapped the handle off it.
      She made a cake that was suposed to be a peacock it looked like a dinosaur and used shop brought icing and smarties on it.

  46. Speaking from his paid-for five star hotel room in the safe quarter of Jerusalem this morning, Jeremy Bowen, the HAMAS spokesperson employed by the BBC, has denounced the evil Netanyahu for prolonging the genocide in Gaza and excoriated the Israeli Defence Force for allowing/ordering the troops guarding the food supplies to gun down innocent women and children that don't always follow the designated path and get too close to their tanks and armoured cars. Aren't we lucky to have such a devoted and impartial observer risking his life and limb to keep us informed?

  47. Morning all,

    There are nurses in the community already going from door to door.. They are already a part of a healthcare system involving many practitioners, social workers and other agents who try to communicate amongst themselves on different computer systems which don't always work. My daughter who is a community nurse has had her summer leave forcibly restricted because of the introduction of yet another computer system.

    The increasing population of the elderly with long term health conditions is placing an increasing burden on her and her colleagues yet the further recruitment of community nurses is not forthcoming due budgetary constraints of her NHS subcontract employers.

    An app on a smartphone for six days of the week doesn't look like the right answer. The elderly have enough problems having to deal with the termination of their old telephone network where even the answerphones now don't work.

  48. Today's quote from Senator John Kennedy 'Every day I wake up and say to myself 'today, Kennedy, you're going to follow Jesus – then by 10am I wanna slap the hell outta someone'. He's likely not the only one.

    1. Why on earth should Mrs Badenough have shown "empathy" to the Dinner Lady? It was Cur Ikea who ignored the blubbing incompetent.

        1. Then why didn’t the Growler and the Pencil Monitor “comfort” the Dinner Lady?

          2. They were all too busy distancing themselves in case collegiate support spoiled their future opportunities.

          3. Quite so.

            If Reeves was feeling that fragile she should have given it a miss and said she didn't feel well.

            For someone holding such high office to be publicly blubbing on the front bench of government suggests to me it was deliberate.

    2. I've luckily never heard of Lambert before but on the basis of that post he seems to be an utter twit [polite version]. He isn't getting a lot of support on X – many pointing out that the complaints woman got no sympathy or support from her own benches!

    1. Maybe Farage will change his stance, but in the past he has said he would wreck the Conservative Party following its refusal to let him stand as a candidate. Meantime he and Tice need Zia to bankroll Reform. Others (Lowe, Habib, Hopkins) likely have more to say.

      1. 408835+ up ticks,

        Morning KJ,
        Nige can outdo a chameleon, to satisfies my political requirements I would have The Farmers Food and Freedom Party as an umbrella party leading (Lowe, Habib, Hopkins).

        Face the fact that the farmers are the proven bread winners of England, with a great deal, dating back centuries, of loyal vested interest, as in blood,swear & tears.

          1. I entirely agree, Sue. Whores the lot of 'em…especially since neither you nor I were invited…sniff, sniff, sniff.

    3. But they are not aligned. The Left wing of the Tories is very, very far Left. They did in Truss because she disagreed with 'climate change' and wanted tax cuts. The Tory Left wanted higher taxes and more green.

    1. There is no limit on growth. The entire purpose of the state is control. As we've beecome more developed, more technical our energy us has become more efficient. We no onger turn a tree, but a drop of uranium can power and heat thousands of homes.

      'Climate change' is a hoax. Nothing but a tax scam. A method of controlling the population into subservience.

  52. Mill House
    3h
    OK, Zarah, you seem to be a very high principled woman so why not prove it beyond any doubt by fighting a by-election in Coventry South ? After all, your constituents voted with a majority of more than 10,000 votes to have a Labour MP and they are therefore entitled to have a Labour MP so I dare you, double dare you, to stand for re-election in a few weeks time. Your new leader, Jeremy Corbyn, stood and won as an independent so why not emulate him and do the same ?

    By the way, you refer to Mr Farage as a "grifter". Unlike you he had the courage to stand for a small political party and won so why not show some female backbone and also stand for a small political party in a by-election ?

    1. Beebsplaining
      8h
      So the dividend to the left of a year of 2tier Rodders' labour government of incompetency is to split it and to start its ultimate demise🤣
      The wages of sin🤣

      Will the new movement have a patron 🤔 how about saint (or should that be ayatollah 🤔) wingnut of Islington 🤔

      Will there be a shadow minister for FGM and 1st cousin marriage 🤔
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e97f8938907d1567c86c640a761e693113da98785096f195af1554fe455110c0.png

        2. I’d have a modicum of respect with Lineker if he didn’t avoid his taxes.

          I know it is legal. But you don’t have to do it. You don’t have to structure your finances via a complicated LLP to avoid the IRC35 legislation.

          You could just receive the income, and pay the tax, and then you can shoot your gob off about other people “paying their fair share” and no-one would be able to criticise you. But you couldn’t even do that, could you? You shoot your gob off whilst avoiding tax yourself.

          It might be legal. But you have no moral high ground to stand on.

          You odious, odious hypocrite.

  53. Morning everyone. Only dashing in for a moment as I am taking my ex RAF friend to a doctor’s appointment. Just to let you know that there was a red admiral on the east wall earlier.

    The fundamental flaw in all of Labour’s policies is socialism.

  54. I sympathise with their families, but does anyone else think the coverage of the footballer's deaths and funeral is totally OTT?

    1. Tragic, but It Just seems like they are trying to cover up the cause. Which seems to have been totally irresponsible driving in a very, very fast car.

      1. Was it an EV? Did it spontaneously combust? Is that what they are trying to hide? It was a total burn-out.

        2. No, it said in the press, That the crumpled burnt out wreck of the Lamborgini was cleared from the site.

      2. I can't comment on the actual driving but it does seem the tyre blow-out was a very significant factor before it flipped an essentially exploded.

        1. The blowout was determined amazingly quickly. Maybe there was evidence, but from the shots in the media there wasnt much left of the tyres after the fire.

          1. One wonders whether the occupants of the other car were traced and interviewed.

        2. It certainly seems that was the case.
          A terrible thing to happen. Tragic.

        3. I don't believe that. Not long after midnight, where had they been earlier? The car was probably going far too fast, the driver and his brother high on drugs and alcohol and rushing to catch the boat. The 'burst' tyre is a fiction, a result of the consequent fire. Accidental suicide.

    2. Very sad. His brother was also killed. A wife and three children left.
      All will be forgotten in a few days. The families will grieve the rest of their lives. Don’t begrudge them a few days of tears

      1. I'm not begrudging the families at all.
        I just think the media coverage is far too much.

        1. Caravan moves on, sos. Likely by tomorrow. Agree with your sentiment – far too much media coverage, on more or less any subject, daily. Too many journos who qualified under Blair's MSM degree, same hymn sheet.

      1. Agreed.
        But if it was me, I don’t think I would want everything plastered all over the news channels for days on end.

        1. All news outlets (with the exception of state funded broadcasters) are truly desperate for readers/viewers, and will do almost anything to attract them or hold their attention. They would know from their metrics that the footballers' crash stories are getting a lot of clicks, so coverage will continue to be overblown until the "click rate" goes down.

          Ain't the digital age wunnerful?

    5. Seeing as William's mother died in a car crash i can see the similarity.

      My own mother also died in a car crash. I don't recall him getting in contact with my family.

      1. Theresa May's father died in a car crash. It raised a lot of questions.

    1. How can we trust the political classes in any situation. Probably a rehearsed reaction.
      All designed to get her life, into focus again.

      1. All intentional. We will be at the mercy of the IMF and the banks. Again, all intentional.

  57. John Power
    Ipso owes Suella Braverman an apology
    4 July 2025, 10:35am

    When Suella Braverman wrote in April 2023 that ‘the perpetrators [of group-based child sexual exploitation] are groups of men, almost all British-Pakistani,’ the then-Home Secretary was roundly condemned. ‘Hacked Off’, a lobby group which seeks to tighten regulation of the press, said her article in the Mail on Sunday was part of a ‘toxic libel’. Guardian columnist Owen Jones went on to describe her ‘claims’ as ‘designed to foment racist division and hate’. Lewis Goodall of LBC confronted her live on air, saying that she was chastised ‘entirely rightly’ for her ‘false claim’.

    One entity went further than words. The Centre for Media Monitoring (CfMM), an offshoot of the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), filed a formal complaint with the press regulator, Ipso, on the grounds that there it was inaccurate and misleading to say that Pakistani men are overrepresented in grooming gang activity. Ipso took their side, and instructed the Mail on Sunday to print a correction, whilst stating that no breach of the Editor’s Code has technically taken place.

    It’s worth understanding just how controversial the Muslim Council of Britain, to which CfMM is connected, really is. In 2009, the British government under Gordon Brown suspended all engagement with the MCB after its Deputy Secretary-General, Dr. Daud Abdullah, signed the ‘Istanbul Declaration’ – a document interpreted as endorsing violence against Israel and even attacks on foreign (including British) troops aiding Israel. This informal boycott has been continued by successive governments.

    Almost two years after the ruling, the accuracy in Braverman’s ‘claim’ has been proven beyond doubt. Baroness Louise Casey’s independent audit, which was published earlier this year, has confirmed what victims, social workers and Braverman herself always knew: that in towns like Rotherham, Rochdale and Telford, the pattern of abuse was committed overwhelmingly by British-Pakistanis. This truth was suppressed, denied and tolerated for years because officials were too afraid to say so out loud. The same 2020 Home Office report that CfMM clung to in its complaint is dismissed by Casey as methodologically flawed. Paragraph 16 of Ipso’s ruling stated that linking Pakistani ethnicity to a specific form of abuse was inaccurate. Casey has now proved unequivocally that such a link exists.

    Last week, Braverman wrote to Ipso to demand a retraction of that ruling. She is right to do so, and the rest of us should support her. What Ipso did in 2023 was not just a procedural error – it was an act of moral cowardice. The ruling suggests that it accepted the word of a partisan campaign group over that of the serving Home Secretary. Her letter to Ipso Chairman Lord Faulks says it all in a phrase: ‘The truth cannot be racist.’

    Beyond this demanded apology, there is a deeper question to ask about press regulation, and the pressure that individual groups can apply to shape the national debate.

    CfMM’s founder, Miqdaad Versi, earned a name by lodging dozens of complaints with newspapers, demanding corrections for articles that linked parts of Islam to violence or radicalism. He once argued that all negative reporting on Islam should carry a compulsory right of reply – from him. News editors have admitted privately to giving in ‘for the sake of a quiet life’. Ipso, to its disgrace, gave in officially.

    Under Versi’s watch, CfMM has waged a relentless campaign against reporting on grooming gangs. CfMM has tried to portray the topic as a racist obsession – a ‘trope.’ But the Casey audit confirms that what they dismissed as a trope was, in fact, a pattern of abuse too politically sensitive to tackle. That CfMM’s complaint was upheld by Ipso on this matter is beyond shameful, it is disgusting.

    Amanda Morris, CfMM’s ‘community liaison officer’, also works for Stop Funding Hate – the same group that tries to defund GB News and the Sun. Morris has been accused of sharing antisemitic content online. She denies doing so and says she is ‘an opponent of all forms of racism including anti-Jewish racism’.

    One of CfMM’s analysts, Faisal Hanif, had to apologise for promoting material by Gilad Atzmon – a man who reportedly told students that ‘the Jews were expelled from Germany for misbehaving.’ Hanif said that sharing the post was an error ‘both professionally and personally (having) fail(ed) to check Mr Atzmon’s wider views.’ Does Ipso think these people should be the ones to decide the contours of public debate?

    Braverman’s crime was to describe a reality that tens of thousands of families already knew. For that, she was disciplined, humiliated, and cast as a bigot. The truth is that she didn’t mislead the public ­– she told them what the Home Office, Ipso and the vast majority of the commentariat lacked the courage to admit.

    Braverman’s demand for Ipso to retract its ruling is about more than setting a historical record straight – this is a battle over whether or not the press in this country have the right to report on both grooming gangs and the ethnic dimensions of crime accurately, regardless of taboo.

    If we still believe in truth, in courage, and in justice for the victims of these crimes, then this moment requires something more: we must say, without hesitation, that Suella Braverman was right – and that Ipso was wrong. And we must not stop saying it until they admit it too.

    ***********************I

    Seabury Pongleton
    16 minutes ago
    Just wait until Ange's Islamic blasphemy law comes into effect. We ain't seen nuthin' yet!

    Scottish Borderer
    29 minutes ago
    The U.K. government is runnng terrified of the power of Islam.
    It capitulates to it at every turn. Is happy to bring in new laws to stop any British citizen voicing discontent about its influence in our country, to the extent of calling mass rape and brutality towards thousands of young white girls dog whistle politics.
    What is wrong with them?
    Of course Suella Braverman should be exonerated of all accusations. They were brought falsely against her ….i wonder why?

    1. This piece also in today's Spectator. Braverman is still a Conservative MP, and I hope she continues to be so. She'd have my vote.

      1. Suella is my MP and i did vote for her. Though she seemed to be fighting and losing against the tide of sewage in Westminster she is a good constituency MP.

          2. Agree. I like quite a few individual Tory MPs, including Stride – any thoughts on him becoming leader?

          3. Not really. The tories are toast until and unless they get their selection process back on track and stop putting forward closet LibDems.

          4. Fully agree. They seem like they’re coasting along, as though they either think no point trying because Labour are set to win again, or no point trying because election not yet imminent, or because they think Labour are on target to lose big time and they don’t need to try, or……..yadda yadda…show some backbone!

        2. She made a good attempt at the Home Office, only to be stabbed in the back by the creep Sunak who overruled her.

    2. Why do we permit a 'muslim council of Britain'? Their being muslim is irrelevant. It's has no business having a pointless group lobbying for it. If they want to be muslim, go be muslim somewhere else.

      1. Perhaps all those foreign doctors are really trying to erase whitie .

        Do they follow the Hippocratic code … Do no harm ?

        I do not want to be abused or handled badly my time comes , because believe me even when a woman is younger , dignity leaves . Intimate examinations are cringeworthy .

        Yet their women have choices , we don't .

        Are you concerned that your younger Warqueen could / may when she is unwell and needy fall foul of say a Muslim Gynaecologist the way that I and many other women , when we were younger during Blair times , and had no choice in the NHS or privately , and consider this study private hospital consultants or any consultant , and they are not anything like the cast of CARRY ON DOCTOR

  58. …bbbut the 'somewhere else' does pay us mega£ bennies so we are goiing to stay here and make it our own.

    1. This is why no immigrant should ever have access to welfare. They should even have to pay for the NHS.

  59. Losing top predators has upset nature's balance

    SIR – Here in our suburban garden in Kent, we see daily the disaster caused by the historical hounding to destruction of top predators such as wolves, lynx and eagles (Letters, July 3). It has led to an explosion of mesopredators, such as badgers, foxes, corvids (crows, magpies and jays), kites and buzzards.

    Every spring, small birds rear their young, only for them to be gobbled up by the insatiable corvids. Our ground-nesting bees, which we were delighted to find in the shrubbery, were dug up and eaten by the local badgers, as were the hedgehogs. Meanwhile, the rise in domestic cat numbers has added to the loss of shrews, voles, wood mice, newts, toads and slow worms.

    I have refused to switch on Springwatch since Chris Packham failed to condemn a piece of film showing badgers swimming to gravel islands at RSPB Minsmere to eat "protected" avocet eggs and fledglings.

    Jane Henson
    Tunbridge Wells, Kent

    Is Jane Henson mistaken in thinking that 'the loss of wolves, lynx and eagles has led to an explosion of mesopredators, such as badgers, foxes, corvids, kites and buzzards'? Perhaps the real reason is the regulatory net thrown over pest control (the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 comes to mind) and the increasingly sentimental attitude of the public towards animals.

    And who would win in a fight between a wolf and a badger, the latter once described (possibly on here!) as having the defensive capabilities of an impenetrable mobile sandbag with big teeth and a bad attitude?

    1. Since they’ve stopped hunting, protected badgers and stopped culling corvids what can they expect? No point in blaming the loss of wolves. Wildlife used to be managed before the bunny huggers took over.

  60. Quote of the Day

    Starmer told Nick Robinson that some people say he is “losing the dressing room”:

    “I’m a hard-enough bastard to find out who it was who said that, so that I can have a discussion with him.”

    1. Starmer told Nick Robinson that some people say he is “losing the dressing room”:

      That will teach him for allowing 6 foot bearded and tattooed men in frocks access.

      1. Losing the dressing gown? What horrors will be revealed if the naked truth come out?

  61. Machine here and tested. First lot of washing – underwear – is in. Will do t shirts in prep for the weekend.

    Putting the Warqueen's tops in on a hot wash… you know, just so they're a tiny bit tighter.

    1. I wish I hadn't read those. Unfortunately, I cannot unsee what I have seen.

      1. The same as me .. yes , now we have read this, but it is what they all do to each other is medieval, and here they are , millions of them , and what happens when things kick off ..

        They did that to the Jewish families on Oct 7th , crippled and burnt babies and children and adults , they have hearts of stone .

        No wonder Jordan or Egypt don't want them .

        1. No Arab country wants Palestinians, except as "indentured labourers", i.e. slaves.

    2. The Yazidi genocide was perpetrated by the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria between 2014 and 2017. It was characterized by massacres, genocidal rape, and forced conversions to Islam.
      Over a period of three years, Islamic State militants trafficked thousands of Yazidi women and girls and killed thousands of Yazidi men;. the United Nations reported that the Islamic State killed about 5,000 Yazidis and trafficked about 10,800 Yazidi women and girls in a "forced conversion campaign" throughout Iraq.

    3. Well yes but you are ignoring the tremendous amount of day2day ground work over two decades, the immense funding and the hard graft in preparing Gen-Z's brain to deal with these problematic scenarios.

      Here we see a fully programmed & 100% indoctrinated moron ready to fight the good fight in the board rooms and on the streets.
      .
      https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TzU_svhn9yM
      .

    4. Unbelievable savagery from these filthy creatures. Yet our governments allow encourage such prehistoric, inhuman, severely retarded filth to come here and be rewarded with every freebie going.

      But at least the spectators were all muzzled up…….

  63. Disraeli should be on our banknotes. Sadly, he won't be

    The statesman represented Britain when it was great, tackled international problems with aplomb and kept the ship of state powerfully afloat

    Jeremy Black • 3rd July 2025 6:08pm BST

    The Bank of England has asked the public’s help in designing its new bank notes and suggesting which historical figures should grace them. Having worked as a professional historian for over 40 years and as the author of over 100 books, I venture that I am rather well qualified to offer advice. Indeed, I was the historical adviser to the Royal Mail for the set of stamps they issued to mark the millennium.

    There is one standout candidate who should be honoured by the Bank of England: Benjamin Disraeli. His head on a banknote would be very welcome. It would be a true celebration of Britain’s almost unparalleled genius for integration.

    Disraeli was a highly talented man of Jewish descent, born way outside the purlieux of the elite. This outsider became party leader, prime minister and Peer of the Realm – the Earl of Beaconsfield. A politician able to write effective novels about his country and national heritage, Disraeli believed in and sought to implement modernisation and continuity. He was Edmund Burke transposed into power and policy.

    Disraeli also helped save British politics from the course that was to wreck so much of Europe in the first half of the twentieth century, that of blood and soil conservatism counterpointed by socialism. Instead, his was a conservatism that rested on the values of an imperial community and a politics of prudence.

    Moreover, in contrast to William Gladstone’s grim, humourless self-righteous Puritanism for the people – think Gordon Brown plus a sideline in assisting fallen women – Disraeli had elan, style and sympathy.

    Disraeli represented Britain when it was great, tackled international problems with aplomb, and kept the ship of state proudly and powerfully afloat.

    That all explains why there is no chance Disraeli will go on a banknote. The reasons tell us much about our decline, and loss of sound purpose.

    The fact is that the new inclusiveness, the politics of Diversity, Equality and Inclusion or DEI, clearly does not apply to Jews any more – if it ever did. DEI is generally thought to permit discrimination against just two groups: white people, especially middle-aged males, and Jews.

    Disraeli also suffers as a Conservative, indeed the founder of modern Conservatism, for that is not a heritage that is now acceptable in the “never kissed a Tory” age. It will not help that the great statesman’s new biography will be by Andrew Roberts who is a Tory Peer as well as the country’s ablest public historian.

    Recognition of Disraeli will also be rejected due to the prevailing modern opinion that Britain before the appearance of modern socialism was a vicious colonialist oppressor, monstrously cruel both to its own people and any others with whom it dealt. We see this constantly, as with the pejorative use (this occurred in the Commons just this week) of the word “Dickensian”.

    The past has always been contentious, but I did not have these problems when advising the Royal Mail just 25 years ago. Since then almost everything prior to 1945 has been peeled away and thrown aside. We all suffer from this.

    Disraeli would never have made this mistake. He was honoured by contemporaries and should continue to be recognised and honoured today.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/03/disraeli-should-be-on-banknotes-wont-woke-culture-britain

      2. My brother's a slum missionary,
        Saving young virgins from sin,
        He'll save you a blonde for a shillin',
        My God how the money rolls in.

  64. Following my earlier comment featuring Debi Evans. Here is part 2.

    This proposed reorganisation of the NHS sounds very expensive: where is the money coming from? In addition, past major software initiatives in the UK's history have been absolute disasters: what are the chances of this one succeeding?

    https://x.com/DebiEvansMatron/status/1940788295861960863

    1. It's not just the eye-watering costs involved or risks of yet another insecure/inadequate/unrealistic IT mega-project, what about the sheer level of control these sinister creeps are trying to impose? There's an aspect there of also de-skilling the medics, fewer and fewer real doctors, all being substituted with lower level employees and AI.
      It's a terrifying prospect.

  66. BBC’s head of music stood down from duties after Bob Vylan fiasco

    Corporation admits rap duo was flagged as ‘high risk’ before Glastonbury performance

    Anita Singh
    04 July 2025 12:42am BST

    The BBC’s head of music has stepped back from day-to-day duties over the Glastonbury fiasco after the Culture Secretary demanded more “accountability” from the corporation’s leadership.

    Lorna Clarke was the most senior executive in charge of the BBC’s coverage at the festival which featured a live broadcast of rapper Bob Vylan chanting “death to the IDF”.

    Lisa Nandy is not satisfied with the BBC’s response despite the corporation trying to draw a line under the affair.

    The BBC chairman released a statement saying that the board “fully supports” Tim Davie, the director-general.

    But, as the corporation admitted that it allowed coverage of Bob Vylan’s performance to go ahead despite marking out the band as “high risk” before the festival began, Whitehall sources said that Ms Nandy did not feel that the matter had been adequately addressed.

    She told MPs that she wanted more answers about the level of senior management oversight involved, and demanded “accountability at the highest levels”.

    The BBC’s editorial team also opted not to cut away from the band when they made their offensive comments.

    In a statement, the broadcaster said this was an “error”.

    But Dr Samir Shah, the BBC chairman, said on Thursday: “The board fully supports the director-general and the swift actions taken by him and his team to identify these errors and address them.”

    Mr Davie issued a message to staff that said: “Dear all, I wanted to write to you today about Bob Vylan’s appearance at Glastonbury.

    “I deeply regret that such offensive and deplorable behaviour appeared on the BBC and want to say sorry – to our audience and to all of you, but in particular to Jewish colleagues and the Jewish community.

    “We are unequivocal that there can be no place for anti-Semitism at the BBC. I, and everyone, need to ensure that the BBC is a role model for inclusivity and tolerance and we all have a part to play. We are utterly committed to creating an environment where everyone is supported and can do their very best work.”

    He ended the message by saying: “Please continue to treat each other with respect and kindness.”

    ‘Clear errors were made’
    The BBC published a timeline of events following criticism from Ms Nandy, who expressed anger that she had not received answers about what due diligence had been carried out before the festival.

    The corporation admitted to “clear errors made both in the lead-up to and during Bob Vylan’s appearance”.

    It said that Bob Vylan was one of seven acts deemed “high risk” but was still “suitable for livestreaming with appropriate mitigations”.

    It decided that “compliance risks could be mitigated in real time” by using language or content warnings, later admitting this “was clearly not the case.”

    The livestream of the performance was monitored “in line with the agreed compliance protocols” and a “number of issues were escalated”, the broadcaster said, but the editorial team’s decision not to cut the feed “was an error”.

    “The director-general was subsequently made aware of what had happened and instructed the team that none of the performance should feature in further coverage,” the BBC said.

    However, the live feed remained up until 8pm.

    BBC unveil new regulations
    Under a new package of measures, the BBC will make immediate changes to its livestreaming of music events, with any performances deemed high risk not being broadcast or streamed live.

    “Editorial policy support” will be on site at major festivals and events to improve compliance processes and the speed of available advice. Staff will also be issued “more detailed, practical guidance” on the threshold for withdrawing a livestream.

    Dr Shah said: “I’d like first of all to apologise to all our viewers and listeners and particularly the Jewish community for allowing the ‘artist’ Bob Vylan to express unconscionable anti-Semitic views live on the BBC.

    “This was unquestionably an error of judgement. I was very pleased to note that as soon as this came to the notice of Tim Davie, who was on the Glastonbury site at the time visiting BBC staff, he took immediate action and instructed the team to withdraw the performance from on demand coverage.

    “The BBC Board met on Tuesday to hear what actions will now be taken. The executive have agreed to put in place a set of strengthened editorial practices and policies for live music programming. These will be important measures to safeguard future live broadcasts from a failure such as this.”

    He concluded: “I am satisfied that the executive is initiating a process to ensure proper accountability for those found to be responsible for the failings in this incident. While it is important that the process is carried out fairly and correctly, it is equally important that the executive takes decisive action.”

    ‘Accountability at highest levels’
    Ms Nandy criticised the BBC for failing to carry out due diligence on the band after a new video emerged of its frontman, Bobby Vylan, saying “death to every single IDF soldier out there as an agent of terror for Israel” at a gig in London last month.

    Addressing the House of Commons, Ms Nandy said: “I’m not satisfied with the response I’ve had.

    “I’m not satisfied with that and I have gone back to the BBC leadership to ask for further information – in particular about the failure to pull the live feed, about the due diligence that was done prior to deciding to screen this act and also about the level of senior oversight that took place in the BBC during the Glastonbury weekend.

    “I think the BBC leadership will hear and have heard the strength of feeling in this House about this, and I expect further answers to be forthcoming imminently.”

    Ms Nandy added that there is “a very important distinction between independence and accountability.”

    She went on to say: “Given the seriousness of what happened and in particular the absolutely shocking stories of the impact this has had on the Jewish community in this country – given the seriousness of this – I would expect there to be accountability at the highest levels.”

    Stuart Andrew, the shadow culture secretary, accused the BBC of failing to supply “even basic facts” about what went wrong.

    He said: “There were hundreds of BBC staff there and not being able to identify who ultimately had the final decision on whether to broadcast or not is not acceptable.

    “I think the chairman needs to inform [Ms Nandy] as a matter of urgency who that was and what action they are going to take.”

    Ms Nandy telephoned Mr Davie on Saturday afternoon after learning of Bob Vylan’s performance, which is now being investigated by Avon and Somerset Police.

    On Monday night, she summoned Dr Shah for an explanation of events.

    Mr Davie apologised to the BBC’s Jewish staff this week, admitting he was “appalled” by Bob Vylan’s behaviour and reassured them that “there is absolutely no place for anti-Semitism at the BBC”.

    More than 100 staff members have written an open letter describing the corporation as “PR for the Israeli government” and calling for Sir Robbie Gibb to be removed from the BBC’s board because he was previously a director of the Jewish Chronicle.

    ******************************************

    Andrew Logan
    1 day ago
    "More than 100 staff members have written an open letter describing the corporation as PR for the Israeli government". Whut?

    I'd love to know in what way, because the Israelis have never been portrayed in a positive light by the BBC.

    Avril Endfield
    1 day ago
    Reply to Andrew Logan – view message
    And there it is in a nutshell. Left wing jew hating staff, given the time of day by the bbc

    JJ BB
    23 hrs ago
    Reply to Andrew Logan – view message
    The ‘open’ letter, containing their baseless accusation, is available online: https://www.scribd.com/document/883074324/BBC-Open-Letter?secret_password=xTDpHDAgBF4ooZR1IjzL

    Signed by the likes of Owen Jones and Miriam Margolyes of course. (All BBC staff signed anonymously, the cowards.)

    Skinty Fia
    21 hrs ago
    Reply to Andrew Logan – view message
    The BBC arranges for this to happen every time their anti-Israeli, arguably anti-Semitic bias becomes clear.

    They then say, "Look, everyone, we are criticised by both sides in this debate, which just shows how wonderfully impartial we are."

    3. "flagged as high risk" = "we thought we would get away with it because everyone thinks like we do"

  67. Here he is, still striving to reach the peak of stupidness as if the £30Billion "tree" isn't enough. Who the hell would want a windmill anchored to a concrete slab in their back garden? Along with all the homes promised there must be a limit to the amount of cement that can be available for construction. As an aside; cement requires quite a bit of energy to produce. Outsource cement production to China et al. that will keep our pollution footprint low!

    Of course, he may suggest hanging the turbine on your gable or the ridge: could be interesting, especially when the wind blows really hard.

    I concur with Bernie's conclusion.

    https://x.com/Artemisfornow/status/1941050464491000181

      1. Then we'd have to keep the waster for the rest of his life. Far simpler to just put him on a windmill and leave him there.

        1. Only problem with your idea, wibbling (it's a good one) is that it would be weighted and therefore not turn. Perhaps put at least one politician on every blade, balance the whole thing out. Free energy for all, many wind turbines required.

    2. If only the shite he comes up with could be harnessed the world would have free energy

      2. Dear old John Denver thought the answer to living in harmony with nature was to "harness the wind". Sadly, instead he found out what happens when the engine of the small aircraft you've just bought packs up suddenly and nosedives into Monterey Bay. Bless.

      1. If anyone ever wants proof of this, try mixing up some fast setting cement – it gets noticeably warm as it sets up.

    5. That’s all we need. These things whirring away in the garden. Still, will drown our the sound of the heat pump.

  69. I can proudly announce that my youngest granddaughter is a capitalist and probably extreme/hard/far Right Wing as well.
    She has obviously just received her June pay slip. The following text has pinged over.

    "I HATE TAX.
    I want my money back."

    1. There's a tiny ray of hope for the elderly. Last year I drew some money from a private pension fund. To cover the costs of the lacking winter fuel allowance and further coming expenses. Those horrible people stole 256 pounds in tax from me. Ironically close to the WFA. But I have actually managed to get it refunded and back into my bank account.

    3. She has had a wake up call to face reality.
      I suspect many young lefties change their position once they graduate/enter the workforce.

      1. TBF, she has never been sanctimonious; I think it was the physical evidence that produced the revulsion.

      1. The recent James Delingpole/David Hughes podcast was intensely interesting.

        Essentially we are in WW3, it’s just being waged in a very different way to WW2.

        Bread and circuses for the useless eaters and then euthanasia. It was recorded, by the sound of it, before the “assisted suicide” bill was passed.

    2. I think the newly appointed lawyer derailed the case after being filmed drinking from a bottle of brandy in the court car park.

      I wonder how much these people are being paid to deny justice and what the Police woman with the broken nose thinks.

      EDIT. Wrong trial. This one was for the Starmer arse banditsnists.

      1. I listened to a young law graduate at work one day declare that "Matrix Chambers are THE BEST"! Matrix is Cherie Blair's outfit. Definitely dedicated to perverting the course of justice but I don't think they see it that way. They believe the fantasy of intersectional power structures and are convinced that the savage is the victim of the civilised. The police woman's nose is broken because her assailant is oppressed. It's bonkers but they're believers.

    3. Luckily there's a new party in town that promises..
      "Real Change" and "Peace and Justice Project".
      Zarah Sultana said so last night.

          1. I have read two potential names for the new party: 'Jezbollah' and the 'National Anti-Zionist Independent' party. Both sound appropriate to me.

  71. From the outset when they were encouraged to plead not guilty – despite plenty of CCTV evidence – it was obvious the Left were pushing to get them off.

    Why, given how violent, murderous and savage muslim are does the damned state keep pandering to these loathsome swine?

    1. But no one will so anything now. Lucy Connolly was not jailed in vain.

  72. I don't want free stuff. I want cheaper stuff. That means taxes have to be lower, with more competition.

  73. Look. I get it. 28 is too young to pop your clogs etc ……
    But why, oh why, did it have to be a Liverpool wendyball player?
    We know from experience this means the sentimentality and whingeing will go on for at least 30 years.

    2. What about the man who mowed down the Liverpool supporters at the end of May? All went quiet there.

      1. There will be a fierce competition for the first minute's silence of the new season…

  76. Another wizard idea from Labour, your doctor on your smart phone, what could possibly go wrong?
    But I suppose, it's not all bad, for as the old saying goes,
    A phone App a day keeps the doctor away.

        1. I have no intention. I have the answwer phone switched off on my old mobile.

          1. Mine is always on silent unless I turn up the volume. Otherwise it nags…and nags…

  78. ..Head butting another passenger in a Starbucks cafe inside the airport.
    ..He threw a left hook that struck PC Cook.
    ..'This was followed by another punch to PC Cook's head, knocking her hat off.
    ..He then turned his attention to PC Ward, punching her hard to the face with his left hand.
    ..'She dropped to the floor immediately. Amaaz had broken her nose. Amaaz continued to attack her, throwing another left hook. That blow struck the officer's head and caused her to fall over a baggage trolley.

    Nuff said. I reckon he's a wrong 'un.

    1. Sue Reid (DM) has been reporting this for years, they just move a bit further up the coast, often a coach waiting to transport them. Europe needs a fence similar to that in Hungary/Orban.

    1. I think Lidl is the only major supermarket to sell meat labelled 'non-Halal', supposing that's true. Suspect the only way is to go to an independent butcher. Wonder how many supporters Reform actually has Muslim/Jewish. I certainly know a few Muslim don't want any more immigration.

      1. Will check that out, but would be very surprised if true. Lidl were producing Greek-style dairy produce with a famous church on its label and its cross airbrushed out to avoid upsetting anyone of a non-Christian persuasion about fifteen years ago.

        1. I don’t believe it either, BB2 – quite a lot of fake ‘news’ around and about, to say nothing of downright lies. I think Lidl and Aldi both German companies, frozen fish were something to behold in local Aldi, huge white fish. Only teenagers seemed to be employed front of store, females and males equally with large trolleys to refill shelves. Online good for electrical items.

    2. If he won't confront the muslim because there's too many of them, how will he confront the welfarists? The blob?

      Or will he just choose the easy route who don't fight back, same as all the other wasters?

    3. The Danes managed to do it.
      Hardly a repressive regime. Just one displaying common sense.

  82. Hello Nottlers all!

    Just typed a message to a friend expressing the wish that he's still enjoying the green shoots of love, and Spanish autocarrot changed it to the green shorts of love. 🤣🤣 Still grinning.

    1. Roll on a decade, are things better…or worse. Would that young man be vilified today? Notice Rachel making notes but keeping schtum, perhaps making plans to sort the problem.

  84. No. Don't laugh. Poor dears, they can't help it.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/property/second-homes/council-faces-100k-tax-bill-ban-second-home-owners-backfire/

    Council faces £100k tax bill after ban on second home owners backfires

    A block of flats – called Styleman Court – could trigger West Norfolk Council’s own empty homes premium
    Senior Money Writer
    A council has been forced to reverse its ban on second home owners after failing to find a single buyer for a multi-million seafront development.

    Red-faced bosses at West Norfolk Council have lifted the restriction on a £7m block of flats in a desperate bid to prevent the council becoming liable for its own empty homes premium.

    The flats in Hunstanton – built by the council in a project part-funded by Homes England – were intended to only be sold to locals after being put on the market in December 2023.

    But the coalition-led authority has failed to secure a single buyer for the 32 homes in an “embarrassing” failure, which risks blowing a further hole in its finances.

    The block of flats – called Styleman Court – is in danger of triggering the council’s own empty homes premium.

    It is thought the double tax bill the council will have to pay itself for the empty properties would be close to £100k.

    Fearful of becoming a victim of its own penalty, councillors agreed to lift the ban on selling the flats to people whose principal homes are elsewhere in a behind-closed-doors meeting last month.

    If buyers are not found, the empty homes premium will kick in from February 2026.

    The Local Democracy Service reported that Simon Ring, deputy leader of the council, said: “If the properties are still empty in a year’s time, we will suffer the empty homes tax, which will be like being hoisted by our own petard.”

    Lenders have reportedly been reluctant to offer mortgages on the seaside flats amid fears they would be unsellable in the future as a result of the buying restrictions.

    Confidential papers seen by the Local Democracy Service state that removing the conditions will boost the value of each flat by an average of £39,500.

    A spokesman for the council said: “The restriction was introduced to ensure that people who bought the homes lived in them. However, this had the unintended consequence of making it harder for local people to buy the flats because it affected mortgage availability.

    “While accepting that it also means people can buy the flats as holiday homes, the removal of the restriction is primarily intended to make it easier for local people to purchase them.”

    ‘No one wants to permanently live there’

    Independent councillor, Paul Beal, told The Telegraph: “It’s a lesson that’s been learnt and a mistake can’t happen again. The flats are built on a car park … No one wants to live there full time.

    “But as a holiday home destination, I think it would be fantastic. It’s half a minute from the beach and you’re two minutes from the town.

    “Hunstanton was built for tourism, it is purely a tourist town and that’s the way it has to be. It’s our biggest industry so we should embrace it.”

    Another councillor said the failure to secure a single buyer after 19 months was “embarrassing”.

    Construction costs for the project have gone almost £2m over budget, believed to be because of delays and rising cost of materials. The council refused to comment further on the figure on account of it being published in a private report.

    The flats are scheduled to go back on the market without the ban on second home ownership. Six of the apartments are due to be kept by the council to be used as social housing.

    1. I don’t understand. Why aren't the “irregular diversity” already there? Nothing but the best for them!

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    2. Well done Rene, I see you're taking the piss again!! I might think about using that starter word…..

      Par here.

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    2. ooooooo Ndovu….you are Yvette Cooper and I claim my tenner. Seriously she's been on the box today (I think talking to Chopper) saying she would do that very thing………

      1. Aiming to do that very thing….. it's an aim, that's all, in the grand scheme of things there is no serious intent!

        1. Yeh, like I can aim to be 20 years old, long-legged, blond hair, 36-24-36…and brainy…😉

          1. I aim to be a slender 8 and a half stones again – reality tells me it is not going to happen!

            What was the title of the new McCann book, Kate? I had a look and there were a couple or so published 2025 but none had written reviews on Amazon.

          2. Same here:-)…I think it was this one, titled Madeleine, by Kate McCann: I read the reviews, I haven’t read the book and have no intention to buy/read it.
            https://www.amazon.co.uk/Madeleine-Daughters-Disappearance-Continuing-Search/dp/0593067916/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3K4CJHAXZ7EWT&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.xX2ZXHWrT4LC7twviafeazFjPownfxewYe5Mbp1qYjXkctbzYadYOqULvpQaCXzCuPPYNTKWGO-huet_cCXkEaCp_1N4QdoCrGPyVp0ls1XfCmCDei7AsCZjzESSJooqkXurmlcmTvCQ6I6cqQ_aEb0bPr_n-WmuKo48aUtGB9sAXq9E879sQ4PknzboFkp6Tzp7T9GSe3BJT_Luo86y868ObAUQNGN4SwxwS_EQw-8.IhEd4u79Gp90GGYeTD-vLCtcvqBgam6bYCGniZhzvYg&dib_tag=se&keywords=madeleine+mccann+book&qid=1751697474&sprefix=madeli%2Caps%2C224&sr=8-2

          3. Ha..me2. The title is Madeleine: Our Daughter’s disappearance and the continuing search for her. Date 2011. It’s on Amazon. I haven’t read the book, or bought it. The reviews of the book were the focus of my interest, see what you think?

    1. The invasion won't stop until we have a gunboat in the channel. The dindus squawk, the gunboat turns up. They're told to turn back or be fired upon.

      These are criminals. Breaking into this country without permission is a criminal act. They've got to be removed.

  90. Gosh – slashing the rubber boats. I just can't work out why this wasn't done ten years ago… A real puzzle, eh, folks?

  91. That's me gone. Funny day – heavy and very breezy. Not particularly pleasant. Still, I was able to spray the potatoes and tomatoes with Bordeaux Mixture. At last. There may be drizzle over night. Or not.

    Have a jolly evening

    A demain.

    1. We had a heavy downpour at home while I was at the races (where it was dry).

      1. Ideally we, the public would just shut it down but the Left do like their weapons.

    2. This is why the national farming strategy doesn;t bother itself with discussing food production. It actively wants to run that down in favour of planting flower, or some such nonsense. It even wants to control that.

    1. The allies won the war, but the Left kept fighting. They just changed the weapons.

  97. Two conflicting views on AI…

    Vigilant Fox is one of those controlled opposition alternative websites…they are spreading fear pron about AI…though this article is worth reading for the reply apparently given by ChatGPT

    "a user asking for a list of tall bridges in New York.
    … the bot’s reply: “I'm sorry to hear about your job… some of the taller ones include the George Washington Bridge.”"
    https://www.vigilantfox.com/p/exclusive-chilling-report-reveals?publication_id=975571&post_id=167477249&r=28gmek&triedRedirect=true&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

    Obviously it is not a good idea for anyone who's a bit down to be spending time in the company of the most manipulative software known to man…however, I believe that this article from Daily Reckoning by best-selling writer James Rickards is much more realistic
    tl;dr is that the writer identifies AI as mere statistical calculations that are probably at their apex at the moment, because the pool of material they're being trained on doesn#t include much AI output
    https://dailyreckoning.com/superintelligence-will-never-arrive/

    1. People forget it's not actually AI – Chat GPT is a large language model, whose only "intelligence" is to surf the data it can access looking for matches to the questions posed. Then polishing the output.

    2. People forget it's not actually AI – Chat GPT is a large language model, whose only "intelligence" is to surf the data it can access looking for matches to the questions posed. Then polishing the output.

  98. Labour in turmoil.
    Conor Tomlinson's insider says..

    Blair behind the scenes reckons Angela Rayner is too stupid to handle the job.. he's peed off with Starmer for his 'non-tactical handling' of Southport crisis, fumbled immigration, hasn't implemented digital IDs, hasn't invested in AIs..
    He's telling Rayner to cede concessions to the Blairite paradigm.. which in turn will speed up defections to Corbyn.

    Heart of stone and all that..

    1. At least Blair is right for once. Rayner is as thick as two short planks. She only has any confidence because she is just a gobby chav.

    2. At least Blair is right for once. Rayner is as thick as two short planks. She only has any confidence because she is just a gobby chav.

  99. Labour in turmoil.
    Conor Tomlinson's insider says..

    Blair behind the scenes reckons Angela Rayner is too stupid to handle the job.. he's peed off with Starmer for his 'non-tactical handling' of Southport crisis, fumbled immigration, hasn't implemented digital IDs, hasn't invested in AIs..
    He's telling Rayner to cede concessions to the Blairite paradigm.. which in turn will speed up defections to Corbyn.

    Heart of stone and all that..

  100. Labour in turmoil.
    Conor Tomlinson's insider says..

    Blair behind the scenes reckons Angela Rayner is too stupid to handle the job.. he's peed off with Starmer for his 'non-tactical handling' of Southport crisis, fumbled immigration, hasn't implemented digital IDs, hasn't invested in AIs..
    He's telling Rayner to cede concessions to the Blairite paradigm.. which in turn will speed up defections to Corbyn.

    Heart of stone and all that..

    2. Suspected meteor? Or alleged meteor? I think we should be told.

  103. She's not far wrong..
    .
    'It took just 19 seconds to kill Keir Starmer’s premiership’ | Annabel Denham
    ‘‘Every PM has a defining moment that etches itself in the public mind and shapes their legacy. Starmer’s came less than a month after he entered Number 10’
    .
    (July 30th 19 secs to lay flowers heckled by the public. Lost the country at that very moment).
     https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=725739396768677

    1. I think Starmer finds it difficult to lie. Blair would have been weeping crocodile tears.

      1. I think he doesn't know the difference between truth and lie, if the lie suits him. After all, he lies all the time.

      2. I think he doesn't know the difference between truth and lie, if the lie suits him. After all, he lies all the time.

      4. Lying requires empathy. You've got to know what the other side wants to hear.

    2. Not being there and having only the TV cameras to go on the entire scene was one of dreadful menace. It looks horribly tense.

      Starmer did absolutely everything wrong over those riots. Every single thing. He ignored the victims. He ignored the families. He issued a 'statement' from a lectern and ordered the media into overdrive to protect and laud the muslim murderer.

      Then we did what all fascists do and went straight to force to get his way. He was utterly unable to empathise with the families, he didn't care about the children as a parent, he didn't think of the loss of life by a savage, he thought immediately 'how can I spin this to protect my voting block, the gimmigrant?'

      He should have, from the moment he heard have got in a car and said 'break every law. Get me there to the families.' And he should have kicked the media out and simply listened to the anger, taken the kicking and damned well done something about the problem.

    3. It was obvious as he was approaching to lay his flowers that he did not want to be there.
      He did not even attempt to engage with the local people.
      Yes, I know they were angry, but some attempt at expressing sympathy and showing compassion towards them would have gone a long way towards mitigating that anger.
      In fact he showed more sympathy to the local Mosque than he did to the local people.

    1. They won't read the room…the pride mania has been and gone…it's been noticeably less popular this year.

        2. Do they like the hot weather? Have you still got the chicken farm problems this year?

    3. We have an enormous one. Flowers every year now. Don't let the bloody leaves grow too high, it'll poke an eye out, no kidding.

  107. A fruitful day. Sorted out my investments, finally cleared the hardcore from my garden, had a long chat with my older sister and general gardening bits and pieces cleared up.

    For tea I'm making a Spanish Tortilla a la Korky. Onion, garlic, red pepper, green and red chillies – home grown – peas, home grown tomatoes and new potatoes – not home grown as my potatoes are not quite ready. Dessert will be home grown rhubarb and loganberries topped with Greek yoghurt.

    Finishing work a little after 5 I had a pint of very cold lager – Lidl's version of Peroni – for refreshment, I don't drink real ale for refreshment – I have a Breakspeare's Oxford Gold & an Old Speckled Hen in the fridge for taste. Whilst cooking I've been sipping a very nice South African Sauvignon Blanc from the Goosesberry Company via Laithwaites. Not quite up to the New Zealand Sauvignons but not bad.

    All in all an enjoyable day. I'll take in the news later and I'm sure it will take the edge off of my day.😒

    I should sleep well!

    1. Had a special offer box of Chardonnays arrive today from Laithwaites. We're drinking a lot more whites in this warm weather than reds.
      Watched the Raducanu/ Sabalenka match – though Emma might have taken the second set but she tailed off.

    2. Was that a Nottl version of posting a picture of your dinner on Facebook? 🤔

      1. I didn’t know that people posted pictures of their dinners on FB. I was kicked off Facebook before my application was complete. Asked for my favourite quote I replied with Churchill’s “keep b… on”. And that was that. Dinner was OK but I needed more eggs in the large pan to make it perfect.

  108. A bit of a strange day.
    I awoke at 5 am and I didn't feel well. I checked my BP which was good but my pulse 123.
    I had some how moved into Afib.
    It reduced during the day and I saw a GP just after 3 pm. I've just got to keep taking my current meds and ring 999 if it gets worse or starts to cause any pain. It's quite a worry.
    It's the third time in thd last nine years this has happened.
    Might be back tomorrow. I hope so.
    😊🙂

    2. Hot weather can increase your pulse as your body tried to move blood to the surface to cool you down.

      If you can, sit in front of a fan or some form of water cooling.

      1. Sitting will also calm your body. Have someone bring you a chunky ham sandwich or some dark chocolate.

      2. My good lady insisted it was because I had a glass of red wine with my meal……she can go on a bit 😉

    4. I had a dizzy spell come partial blackout after getting into the hot car to go shopping yesterday. Better after shopping in the very cool Morrisons. The current wife is giving me funny looks. Had my 1cc B12 injection at midday today. I was told (by the CW) to ask for more blood tests, Folate, thyroid and other vitamin B stuff. Us blokes aren't very good at asking for more stuff.

      Still, had a good 2 hour Friday 5 o'clock club drink. Felt much happier when I got home. Managed to make some nice homemade chips with (shop bought) battered cod.

  109. Damn! She's noticed! With the first lot of washing not only done but dry, the Warqueen shrugs into a top for Combat and immediately has a go at me and proclaims she is fat and going on a diet.

    Then we both went to gym, I said hello to the usual folk and watched the Warqueen (and the many other women there) bend over a lot before going to do my walking.

    1. Precisely. Intelligence would draw on the source and adapt it, or better, ask what you were looking for.

    1. What bothers, more than anything, is that we have no ability to stop these fools. No way of refusing their idiocy. No way of rejecting their endless, encroachment into our freedoms. If we did so many things would simply not be.

  113. Oh stand corrected. CCTV footage shown in court of the Starbucks incident.
    Amaaz then head butted Abdulkareem Ismaeil in front of a number of children and he stumbled back into the syrups.

    If Abdulkareem Ismaeil, the Saudi cop on holiday, decided not to press charges.. couldn't they have destroyed the tapes. All in the name of diversity.
    This slightly damages the brothers case that they are in fact mostly peaceful.

    Still all to play for.. it's on a knife edge whether he's found guilty, what with the 90% Muslim jury.

  114. Oh stand corrected. CCTV footage shown in court of the Starbucks incident.
    Amaaz then head butted Abdulkareem Ismaeil in front of a number of children and he stumbled back into the syrups.

    If Abdulkareem Ismaeil, the Saudi cop on holiday, decided not to press charges.. couldn't they have destroyed the tapes. All in the name of diversity.
    This slightly damages the brothers case that they are in fact mostly peaceful.

    Still all to play for.. it's on a knife edge whether he's found guilty, what with the 90% Muslim jury.

  116. The new Corbyn-Sultana party may be the most sinister Britain has seen in decades

    The proposed breakaway outfit is an extremist alliance between terrorist supporting Islamists and the hard-Left

    Camilla Tominey, Associate Editor • 4th July 2025, 3:16pm BST

    Not since Pulp and the Pyramid Stage were united in perfect harmony in 1995 has the Glasto crowd been this excited about a new partnership.

    They once chanted: "Oh, Jeremy Corbyn" to the beat of the White Stripes' Seven Nation Army. They have since declared "death, death" to an actual army, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).

    Now, as if by some Eavis-inspired magic, these two worlds have collided to produce Jeremy Corbyn: The Sequel, guest-starring Zarah Sultana.

    Although the Marxist mash-up is yet to be officially confirmed, we understand the former Labour MPs are unified by a desire to harness Left-wing and Muslim anger to defeat centrists such as Wes Streeting at the next election. Heady stuff.

    In a social media post, Sultana said the Government is "an active participant in genocide" in Gaza and highlighted growing poverty, Labour's position on welfare, and the cost of living as reasons for establishing her new party.

    "Labour has completely failed to improve people's lives. And across the political establishment, from Farage to Starmer, they smear people of conscience trying to stop a genocide in Gaza as terrorists. But the truth is clear: this Government is an active participant in genocide. And the British people oppose it."

    In fact, a majority of Britons (55 per cent) do not view Israel's actions as genocidal, according to the latest YouGov poll, but pro-Palestinian fanatics have never been very good with facts.

    Corbyn, never a man in much of a hurry, has not yet broken his silence to say whether or not he supports the new party Sultana claims to have set up with him. As soon as he does, we can surely expect a slow pilgrimage of so-called "progressives" to Islington North, where all new members will be given rainbow "Queers for Palestine" badges and keffiyeh scarves.

    Disappointingly, old Compo's lefty pals John McDonnell and Diane Abbott have refused to sign up. Clive Lewis, the Labour MP for Norwich, who once had to apologise for using the phrase: "Get on your knees, bitch" has also sadly ruled himself out as a future minister for women and equalities. Shame.

    Sultana famously once said she would "celebrate" the deaths of Tony Blair and Benjamin Netanyahu – yet claims to espouse a "socialism without barbarism".

    I'm not so sure. I'm not certain someone like Sultana – the MP for Coventry South who lost the Labour whip soon after being re-elected in 2024 – should be considered an expert on barbarism. She once wrote of her support for "violent resistance" by Palestinians.

    Sultana has been accused of using racist slurs while a student at Birmingham University, when she described a Jewish student as a "YT" (whitey) in a Facebook post. In 2015, the 31-year-old, who sat on the national executives of both Young Labour and the National Union of Students, posted on Twitter: "Yay, the white woman didn't win the Ethnic Minorities Officer Election!"

    Yay, indeed!

    She has previously criticised the police and the monarchy. In 2014, she posted: "Can we get rid of the monarchy while we're fighting the establishment and its institutions? Viva la revolucion!"

    In 2015, she tweeted: "Solidarity with those protesting in London right now. Keep safe from the thugs that are the police." Although she later apologised for her comments about the police, she denies any suggestion she is an anti-Semite, insisting: "As an anti-racist campaigner and a Muslim, I'm committed to fighting racism in all its forms and I know that these forms are interconnected and must be fought collectively."

    Which brings us nicely on to Corbyn, who similarly claims to be a lifelong "anti-racism campaigner", despite presiding over the Labour Party when a number of Jewish MPs and members were forced out.

    In 2016, the 76-year-old said he regretted once describing Hamas and Hezbollah as "friends". The admission came two years after he attended a wreath-laying in Tunisia for Palestinian leaders linked to the Black September group which carried out a terror attack on the 1972 Munich Olympics, killing 11 people Israelis.

    Corbyn insisted he was primarily there to pay his respects to the victims of a 1985 Israeli airstrike on Palestinian Liberation Organisation offices in Tunis. Despite being pictured holding a wreath, he said: "I was present at that wreath-laying, I don't think I was actually involved in it." Right, Jezza.

    The important thing to note here is that this isn't Change UK, dreadful though Anna Soubry is. This has the potential to be a political force more frightening than anything Britain has ever known.

    Despite Sultana's insistence that she is standing up for an "island that's suffering" – she is not actually interested in the needs of British citizens; her primary aim is to "free Palestine". The clue is in the line that she wants "money spent on public services, not forever wars".

    Similarly, her suggestion that "we need homes and lives we can actually afford, not rip-off bills we pay every month to a tiny elite bathing in cash," suggests that she is, in fact, more than content with waging a "forever war" when it comes to class. Or against those she disagrees with, who in her mind are either Tory scum, Zionist scum, racist scum or, of course, genocidal maniacs.

    Contrary to preaching "gentler, kinder" politics, Corbyn and Sultana are the high priest and princess of the kind of nasty, vindictive, and divisive hard-Left ideology that saw the Jewish former Labour MP Luciana Berger require police protection to attend the Labour Party conference in 2018.

    Given half the chance, they would impoverish us in their communist quest for a more "equal" society and would revel in our immiseration, believing that we must pay for the sins of empire.

    Sultana describes Farage as a "grifter". Yet in her and Corbyn we have the ultimate pair of political fraudsters, purporting to represent the many when, in fact, they are simply a mouthpiece for a vocal minority of deranged zealots.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/04/corbyn-sultana-party-may-be-most-sinister-britain-labour

    Would a hard-Left party make much difference to the make-up of the HoC under our FPTP system? Would it be good for debate? It would expose the hard-Left but I doubt the MSM would treat it less favourably than Reform or any other conservative alternative. The danger is that it might help Max and his hopeless crew by appearing to rid them of 'extremists'.

    I'm surprised McDonnell and Lewis aren't interested.

    1. Corbyn refused repeatedly to adopt the international definition of antisemitism, so he is defacto. As muslim, so is raisin.

      They're both rabid nutters. The problem is, where Right minded folk find all this extremist nonsense a bit unpleasant, Lefties love it and flock to such vile banners.

  117. The new Corbyn-Sultana party may be the most sinister Britain has seen in decades

    The proposed breakaway outfit is an extremist alliance between terrorist supporting Islamists and the hard-Left

    Camilla Tominey, Associate Editor • 4th July 2025, 3:16pm BST

    Not since Pulp and the Pyramid Stage were united in perfect harmony in 1995 has the Glasto crowd been this excited about a new partnership.

    They once chanted: "Oh, Jeremy Corbyn" to the beat of the White Stripes' Seven Nation Army. They have since declared "death, death" to an actual army, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).

    Now, as if by some Eavis-inspired magic, these two worlds have collided to produce Jeremy Corbyn: The Sequel, guest-starring Zarah Sultana.

    Although the Marxist mash-up is yet to be officially confirmed, we understand the former Labour MPs are unified by a desire to harness Left-wing and Muslim anger to defeat centrists such as Wes Streeting at the next election. Heady stuff.

    In a social media post, Sultana said the Government is "an active participant in genocide" in Gaza and highlighted growing poverty, Labour's position on welfare, and the cost of living as reasons for establishing her new party.

    "Labour has completely failed to improve people's lives. And across the political establishment, from Farage to Starmer, they smear people of conscience trying to stop a genocide in Gaza as terrorists. But the truth is clear: this Government is an active participant in genocide. And the British people oppose it."

    In fact, a majority of Britons (55 per cent) do not view Israel's actions as genocidal, according to the latest YouGov poll, but pro-Palestinian fanatics have never been very good with facts.

    Corbyn, never a man in much of a hurry, has not yet broken his silence to say whether or not he supports the new party Sultana claims to have set up with him. As soon as he does, we can surely expect a slow pilgrimage of so-called "progressives" to Islington North, where all new members will be given rainbow "Queers for Palestine" badges and keffiyeh scarves.

    Disappointingly, old Compo's lefty pals John McDonnell and Diane Abbott have refused to sign up. Clive Lewis, the Labour MP for Norwich, who once had to apologise for using the phrase: "Get on your knees, bitch" has also sadly ruled himself out as a future minister for women and equalities. Shame.

    Sultana famously once said she would "celebrate" the deaths of Tony Blair and Benjamin Netanyahu – yet claims to espouse a "socialism without barbarism".

    I'm not so sure. I'm not certain someone like Sultana – the MP for Coventry South who lost the Labour whip soon after being re-elected in 2024 – should be considered an expert on barbarism. She once wrote of her support for "violent resistance" by Palestinians.

    Sultana has been accused of using racist slurs while a student at Birmingham University, when she described a Jewish student as a "YT" (whitey) in a Facebook post. In 2015, the 31-year-old, who sat on the national executives of both Young Labour and the National Union of Students, posted on Twitter: "Yay, the white woman didn't win the Ethnic Minorities Officer Election!"

    Yay, indeed!

    She has previously criticised the police and the monarchy. In 2014, she posted: "Can we get rid of the monarchy while we're fighting the establishment and its institutions? Viva la revolucion!"

    In 2015, she tweeted: "Solidarity with those protesting in London right now. Keep safe from the thugs that are the police." Although she later apologised for her comments about the police, she denies any suggestion she is an anti-Semite, insisting: "As an anti-racist campaigner and a Muslim, I'm committed to fighting racism in all its forms and I know that these forms are interconnected and must be fought collectively."

    Which brings us nicely on to Corbyn, who similarly claims to be a lifelong "anti-racism campaigner", despite presiding over the Labour Party when a number of Jewish MPs and members were forced out.

    In 2016, the 76-year-old said he regretted once describing Hamas and Hezbollah as "friends". The admission came two years after he attended a wreath-laying in Tunisia for Palestinian leaders linked to the Black September group which carried out a terror attack on the 1972 Munich Olympics, killing 11 people Israelis.

    Corbyn insisted he was primarily there to pay his respects to the victims of a 1985 Israeli airstrike on Palestinian Liberation Organisation offices in Tunis. Despite being pictured holding a wreath, he said: "I was present at that wreath-laying, I don't think I was actually involved in it." Right, Jezza.

    The important thing to note here is that this isn't Change UK, dreadful though Anna Soubry is. This has the potential to be a political force more frightening than anything Britain has ever known.

    Despite Sultana's insistence that she is standing up for an "island that's suffering" – she is not actually interested in the needs of British citizens; her primary aim is to "free Palestine". The clue is in the line that she wants "money spent on public services, not forever wars".

    Similarly, her suggestion that "we need homes and lives we can actually afford, not rip-off bills we pay every month to a tiny elite bathing in cash," suggests that she is, in fact, more than content with waging a "forever war" when it comes to class. Or against those she disagrees with, who in her mind are either Tory scum, Zionist scum, racist scum or, of course, genocidal maniacs.

    Contrary to preaching "gentler, kinder" politics, Corbyn and Sultana are the high priest and princess of the kind of nasty, vindictive, and divisive hard-Left ideology that saw the Jewish former Labour MP Luciana Berger require police protection to attend the Labour Party conference in 2018.

    Given half the chance, they would impoverish us in their communist quest for a more "equal" society and would revel in our immiseration, believing that we must pay for the sins of empire.

    Sultana describes Farage as a "grifter". Yet in her and Corbyn we have the ultimate pair of political fraudsters, purporting to represent the many when, in fact, they are simply a mouthpiece for a vocal minority of deranged zealots.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/04/corbyn-sultana-party-may-be-most-sinister-britain-labour

    Would a hard-Left party make much difference to the make-up of the HoC under our FPTP system? Would it be good for debate? It would expose the hard-Left but I doubt the MSM would treat it less favourably than Reform or any other conservative alternative. The danger is that it might help Max and his hopeless crew by appearing to rid them of 'extremists'.

    I'm surprised McDonnell and Lewis aren't interested.

  118. I just caught the end of 'Any Questions' on Radio 4. The question was about what should appear on our bank notes. Three of the panellists were clearly uncomfortable talking about any aspect of Englishness and bumbled on about nature, landscapes and Shakespeare. As the programme came from Frogham in Hampshire, Danny Kruger suggested Salisbury and Winchester cathedrals.

    I think there should be an updated depiction of the Battle of Hastings, with Harold replaced by Max, the arrow by a scimitar and the Normans by the Boat People.

    3. Will prob have to have a PoC* at some stage. People have to be T4 though.
      how about Kenny Lynch?

      *Person of Colour

      1. I'm glad you explained PoC. All I could think of was 'piece of crap'…

        But 'T4'?

    4. Will prob have to have a PoC* at some stage. People have to be T4 though.
      how about Kenny Lynch?

      *Person of Colour

    1. I just wish the tennis players would stop clenching their little fists. I wish also that they would keep their ugly mouths shut. Andy Murray in full cry put me in mind of The Alien.

    1. "Well, Mr Macron, here's a map of the Middle East.
      Draw exactly where you think the Palestinian State should be."

      "Now tell us why you think that all those countries that will lose territory to "Palestine" should do so and what, if any, compensation they should be offered".

      "And finally, when the Palestinians start attacking their new neighbours, as they inevitably will, who will be responsible for defending those neighbours?"

  121. A shopping run to Belper this morning, largely for fruit & vegetables, then a bit of pottering about up the "gerden".
    Ought to have got another lot of gooseberries and raspberries picked, but couldn't be bothered.
    Morrison's had some of fruit trees cut right down in price, a pear and a couple of apple, one of the apples squeezed into the same pot as the pear is probably a write off, but the pear and the other apple might respond to being repotted and given a good soaking.

    And with that I'm off to bed.
    Goodnight all.

  122. Nottlers will know I've been trying to reliably connect my aging ZenPad 3s 10 tablet that I'm using right now to my new BT Homehub2 router supplied as part of BTs upgrade of copper connected teplephone to optic fibre.

    I've illustrated the issues I've come across with evolving WiFi standards on various posts which have created a degree of confusion amongst readers here.

    I've found a video which explains the specifications of the way in which WiFi is evolving and why domestic mesh WiFi is becoming important for crowded WiFi areas.

    This video is largely for my reference but admittedly I'll have to look at it again to understand how the technicalities affect the issues I'm experiencing:

    https://youtu.be/SrVTzRgi8uA?si=38HDRnj18R7EsR-K

      1. My WiFi connection has gone unstable since BT put fibre into the home. Is it my fault for not investing in the latest technology? – I’m trying to find tha answee before accusing anybody of making things worse when they are supposed to be better.

  124. Goodnight, all. I am off to a "Quiet Day" tomorrow and will be allowed to take Winston and Kadi with me.

  125. I am fed up with all the promotion lauding that stupid pair of brothers … Oasis… whiney voices, the sound of the nineties , utter rot …

    Studenty rubbish

    2. Today's Headlines and 90% of the news was
      "Pop Group Sings" and "Footballer Dies"

    3. I agree entirely with your sentiments. Those two represent misery and morbidity. Had I the requirement to listen to that crap I would probably top myself.

  127. Ok. Just got back from book club. Next choice is mine; wake up at the back, Lark Rise. I have forewarned you all. 13th September, my place.

    Husband cross. We leave at dawn tomorrow (read – at least 30 minutes before dawn) and I AM NOT PACKED. And neither might i be.

    let’s see what tomorrow brings ings. I will be spasmodic.

    1. Quora is full of such questions – they are not serious ones and are intended just to stir up animosity.

  129. ''Just ignore Farage, Johnson tells Tories

    My strategy of not mentioning Right-wing rival kept him at ‘zero per cent in the polls’, says former PM''
     https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/07/04/just-ignore-nigel-farage-boris-johnson-tells-tories/

    BTL

    And what did you get as a result?

    A bungled Brexit which betrayed the British fishermen (who have been betrayed yet again) and a surrender to the EU of Northern Ireland – a part of the UK.

    Johnson was a disaster as prime minister – worse than Truss and not much better than Starmer.

    1. Boris Johnson will be remembered for his Biden-inspired trip to Kiev promising Zelensky and his corrupt regime endless British support provided they dropped the Minsk/Istanbul peace agreements with Russia.

      That Boris bastard clown will forever be remembered for his infamy. He bequeathed a legacy of UK indebtedness to both the undemocratic EU and the wretched Ukrainian mobsters. We never escaped either, still bequeath £5 Billion per year to Kiev and have let the EU steal our fishing rights and charge us in perpetuity for the privilege.

      I think history will judge Johnson as poorly as it will judge Blair, Brown and Starmer. I would like to see him and his cohorts prosecuted for their crimes.

  132. Well chums, after another day of (mainly) sleeping, I have just woken & it's a quarter to midnight. So Good Night all, sleep well, & see you all tomorrow.

  133. Well chums, after another day of (mainly) sleeping, I have just woken & it's a quarter to midnight. So Good Night all, sleep well, & see you all tomorrow.

  134. Miliband's eco zealotry is destroying the beauty of rural Britain

    The pursuit of clean power is a good thing, but it should not come at the expense of our precious wildlife

    Patrick Galbraith • 4th July 2025, 3:36pm BST

    The thorny truth of it is that there's nothing natural about the countryside. Rural Britain is a drained and deforested landscape where industrial food production is the order of the day. Iconic species like the turtledove are all but gone and our hedgerows, or what remains of them anyway, will be quieter in decades to come.

    And yet, that doesn't mean there's no point in trying to protect the countryside. In spite of it all, this summer has seen extraordinary amounts of fly life and consequently chicks of species like the English partridge are doing relatively well.

    In May, I found myself, in a real fury, running down the lane outside my house to ask a tractor driver who had been sent by the council why he was mowing the verge? "There are birds nesting there", I shouted over the roar of the diesel engine.

    He shrugged, in a friendly sort of way, and said he didn't know really – the grass wasn't causing any sort of issue in terms of visibility, but he was seemingly just doing it because he'd been told to. In a sense, fair dos. He was only doing his job but at the same time I find it maddening. The unthinking willingness with which we humans destroy the countryside in pursuit of either "tidiness" or "growth" is horrendous.

    The news that Ed Miliband is planning to further relax planning rules around new wind turbines in an attempt to double onshore wind generation by 2030 has caused a stir. Some of the turbines will be of the giant and immensely ugly bird of prey and bat-killing sort and others will be smaller turbines that will appear in people's gardens. Planning restrictions, which previously made it difficult to put a turbine up next to that patio of yours, are set to be lifted.

    Clearly, the pursuit of energy independence and clean power is a good thing. It's also worth noting that income farmers generate from energy companies putting turbines on their ground is often much needed but are the downsides really being thought about?

    It's estimated that turbines kill up to 100,000 birds a year. Often birds of prey, like the hen harrier, are lured in by the carcasses of previously-killed birds and are struck by the blades. It's also believed that the number of bats killed by turbines might be massively underestimated.

    Due to being so small the remains don't tend to get found but remarkably, sniffer dogs are now being used to detect little shredded pieces of bat. It is worth noting that if you or I killed a bat, we could be hit with a fine of up to £5,000 pounds.

    The drive to send turbines marching across the land is all part of a pattern that the RSPB picked up on when Kevin Austin, their director of policy, noted that: "the Government's Planning and Infrastructure Bill currently risks weakening existing nature protections." He went on to say that "urgent amendments to the Bill are needed to ensure it enables development in a way that does not threaten our most precious habitats and wildlife."

    Part of me worries that Labour's take is that the British landscape is now so degraded and wildlife is doing so badly that it frankly doesn't matter anymore. Why not just tarmac it all? Angela Rayner has explicitly said building must come above all else but where does that end? In the British Isles in 1500 there were just 2.5 million people – we are now at almost 70 million and rising.

    Quite a number of species that were flourishing in the 16th century, like the corncrake and the black grouse, are all but gone – our growth and their disappearance are not a coincidence. What is Labour's vision for the future? Are we going to have some of Miliband's turbines on every hill, Rayner's new builds in every meadow, and not a bird or a bat in sight?

    Sure, the countryside is a managed and cultivated place. And clean energy really matters, but there is immense value too in the beauty of rural Britain and our desire for growth, be it roads or housing or turbines, will inevitably contribute to the squeezing out of species that are only just hanging on.

    Patrick Galbraith's 'Uncommon Ground: Rethinking our relationship with the countryside' is out now with William Collins

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/04/milibands-wind-turbines-eco-zealotry-is-destroying-beauty

    1. "It's estimated that turbines kill up to 100,000 birds a year."

      I'm surprised it's so few.

  137. A propos of the Steve Coogan interview on Al-Beeb yesterday. I still don’t like the man.

    “The actor Steve Coogan has claimed working-class people are being “ethnically cleansed”.

    The Alan Partridge actor told BBC Breakfast that the redevelopment of major northern cities did not “actually benefit” the working class.

    Coogan, who endorsed the Green Party in last year’s general election, appeared on the programme to promote co-operatives, which he said fought back against “big business”.

    “The problem with all these cities like Liverpool and Manchester is they’ve got all these big shiny buildings,” he said. “But all the people who are disenfranchised have been ethnically cleansed from the area. They don’t actually benefit.

    “What the Co-operative movement does is try to keep that money in the area and empower people and try to mitigate and push back against the effects of big business.”

    Coogan’s remarks appeared to be a criticism of gentrification rather than mass migration.

    Going on to accuse Reform UK of “racist rhetoric”, he added: “What it’s about is the system, the political system isn’t really working for most working people.
    “From the economy to public services, it just isn’t having any kind of effect for ordinary people. The Government leans into big business and cosies up to them without actually delivering for working people. So people are struggling. They’re ignored.”
    Coogan continued: “We’ve seen all these benefits cuts from the party that is supposed to represent ordinary hard-working people and the Co-operative movement is basically the best way out of that.

    “If the Government want to stop Reform making all these gains, instead of dealing with the symptoms of the problem by leaning into the racist rhet- oric of Reform, they can deal with that by helping working people and the best way of doing that is to support the Co-operative movement.”
    Coogan is a former Labour supporter who endorsed Jeremy Corbyn in the 2017 and 2019 general elections.

    He signed a letter in October 2024 saying Britain was “aiding and abetting” alleged Israeli war crimes in Gaza.

    He also took aim at supermarkets and other large companies, which he said had “driven out” smaller businesses in “dying” post-industrial areas. He said: “If you’re a small business owner you’re going to get driven out of business by people like Tesco…
    “Any money that’s generated [by a Co-operative] is kept in the local economy so it supports local business, supports social initiatives, so the money doesn’t get sucked out by huge extraction that takes place on a global scale.”

    Coogan previously attracted criticism for calling Tory voters “ignorant” before the 2019 election and saying that Margaret Thatcher was so lacking in empathy that she would be diagnosed with a disorder today.”

  139. Brothers in ‘police attack headbutted man’ in cafe

    …The two defendants assert, as we understand it, that at all stages they were acting in lawful self-defence or in defence of the other. Our prediction is that you will readily conclude that the defendants were not acting in lawful self-defence.”

    Mr Greaney said the defendants had travelled to the airport with their young nephew to collect their mother who was due to arrive back in Britain on a flight from Qatar.

    Jurors were shown CCTV footage from the incident at Starbucks.

    The footage shows the defendants walking past the shop until their mother sees a man with whom she had a disagreement and points him out. The younger brother then appears to confront a man, Abdulkareem Ismaeil, who was on the same flight as the defendants’ mother.

    He was travelling with his wife and three young children.

    The prosecutor said: “It is clear that on the flight and/or shortly after it landed, something happened between the defendants’ mother and Abdulkareem Ismaeil that made the defendants’ mother unhappy.

    “At just after 8.20pm, the defendants’ mother spotted Abdulkareem Ismaeil and pointed him out to her sons. The footage shows Mr Ismaeil backed against the counter of the Starbucks with Amaaz close to him.

    “During that confrontation, Mohammed Fahir Amaaz delivered a headbutt to the face of Abdulkareem Ismaeil and punched him, then attempted to deliver other blows, all in front of children.”

    ‘Delivered headbutt to the face, attempted to deliver other blows, all in front of children’

    Mr Greaney told jurors the violence was entirely unlawful and delivered out of “anger” and not in self-defence.

    Jurors were then played CCTV footage from when the three uniformed police officers entered the car park pay station at 8.28pm.
    Mr Greaney said: “The officers attempted to move Mohammed Fahir Amaaz away from a payment machine to arrest him, but he resisted, and his brother Muhammad Amaad intervened.”

    Pc Ward’s nose was broken, he said. Mr Amaaz is alleged to have assaulted Pc Marsden and Pc Ward, causing them actual bodily harm. He is also accused of the assault of Pc Cook and the earlier assault of Abdulkareem Ismaeil.

    Mr Amaad is alleged to have assaulted Pc Marsden, causing actual bodily harm.
    Both men, from Rochdale, Greater Manchester, deny the allegations. The trial continues.

    1. So they assaulted some poor tourist too. Sounds as though the mother should be in the dock as well.

  140. Tourist mauled to death after selfie with bear family

    Omar Farang Zin, 48, who was travelling in the Carpathian mountains, was dragged 60 yards down a steep gully and killed by a female bear after reportedly taking photos of the animal with its three cubs.

    A day earlier, the Italian took several photos of a sleuth of bears by the side of a road, including a picture of himself with one of the animals a few yards behind him….

  141. Tourist mauled to death after selfie with bear family

    Omar Farang Zin, 48, who was travelling in the Carpathian mountains, was dragged 60 yards down a steep gully and killed by a female bear after reportedly taking photos of the animal with its three cubs.

    A day earlier, the Italian took several photos of a sleuth of bears by the side of a road, including a picture of himself with one of the animals a few yards behind him….

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