Friday 10 February: Fine words on Ukraine will mean little if Britain doesn’t send jetsFine words on Ukraine will mean little if Britain doesn’t send jets

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  1. ‘Morning, Peeps.  Some frost, and another dry day in prospect…at this rate a hosepipe ban can’t be far off!

    SIR – It is disappointing to read that HS2 could face further cuts. Infrastructure costs are rising across the board as a result of ongoing inflationary pressures on the economy. The same goes for HS2; higher costs are not because of any problems with the project itself.

    Reducing service frequency and line speeds is mooted, yet neither of these would result in massive savings; instead they would dilute the benefits of the project. The land still has to be purchased, the tracks laid, the tunnels, bridges and stations built. These are where the bigger costs lie.

    What does add to costs, on any project, is chopping and changing its scope once it is already into the delivery phase. Cutting trains and lowering speeds may save a few pennies, but continually putting the brakes on delivery of the project will prove far more costly.

    Richard Thorp
    Director, High Speed Rail Group
    London NW1

    Phew, for a moment there I thought this chap may have a vested interest…

    This is a massive vanity project we don’t need and can’t afford.

    1. Oldies will remember that the M25 was originally designed with three lanes either way.

      The Wilson Government then decided that there would never be enough cars, so reduced it to two lanes. Cost reductions

      were minimal.

      When they put the third lane on, it cost as much again as the original construction costs.

      Really, really good for the construction industry who made out like bandits.

      Do you think that the same will be done with HS2?

  2. Good morrow, Gentlefolks. Here is today’s story:

    Good advice

    A young lady confidently walked around the room with a raised glass of water while leading a seminar and explaining stress management to her audience.

    Everyone knew she was going to ask the ultimate question, ‘half empty or half full?’ She fooled them all. “How heavy is this glass of water?” she inquired with a smile.

    Answers called out ranged from 8 oz. To 20 oz.

    She replied, “The absolute weight doesn’t matter. It depends on how long I hold it. If I hold it for a minute, that’s not a problem. If I hold it for an hour, I’ll have an ache in my right arm. If I hold it for a day, you’ll have to call an ambulance.

    In each case it’s the same weight, but the longer I hold it, the heavier it becomes.” She continued, “and that’s the way it is with stress. If we carry our burdens all the time, sooner or later, as the burden becomes increasingly heavy, we won’t be able to carry on.

    As with the glass of water, you have to put it down for a while and rest before holding it again. When we’re refreshed, we can carry on with the burden – holding stress longer and better each time practiced. So, as early in the evening as you can, put all your burdens down. Don’t carry them through the evening and into the night. Pick them up again tomorrow if you must.”

    1. Accept the fact that some days you’re the pigeon, and some days you’re the statue!
    2. Always keep your words soft and sweet, just in case you have to eat them.
    3. Always read stuff that will make you look good if you die in the middle of it.
    4. Drive carefully… It’s not only cars that can be recalled by their maker.
    5. If you can’t be kind, at least have the decency to be vague.
    6. If you lend someone £20 and never see that person again, it was probably worth it.
    7. It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
    8. Never buy a car you can’t push.
    9. Never put both feet in your mouth at the same time, because then you won’t have a leg to stand on.
    10. Nobody cares if you can’t dance well. Just get up and dance.
    11. Since it’s the early worm that gets eaten by the bird, sleep late.
    12. The second mouse gets the cheese.
    13. When everything’s coming your way, you’re in the wrong lane.
    14. Birthdays are good for you. The more you have, the longer you live.
    15.
    16. Don’t know what happened to #15.
    17. Who cares, you have 4 more to read.
    18. We could learn a lot from crayons. Some are sharp, some are pretty and some are dull. Some have weird names and all are different colours, but they all have to live in the same box.
    19. A truly happy person is one who can enjoy the scenery on a detour.
    20. Have an awesome day and know that someone has thought about you today.

    And Most Importantly
    21. Save the earth….. It’s the only planet with chocolate and wine!

    1. My statuesque Polish friend is suffering from stress, enough to make her ill.
      Sent her this, and got a huge guffaw as response! So, looks like it helped!
      Morning, Tom!

  3. Awake until 03:08 (Last look at the clock) so I’m going to stumble back to bed.

    Play nicely.

  4. Fine words on Ukraine will mean little if Britain doesn’t send jets Fine words on Ukraine will mean little if Britain doesn’t send jets

    Can’t we send our Harrier Jump Jets?

      1. T’Lad and self came up the A1 from London for a change, cutting across via Oakham from Stamford and we noticed that RAF Wittering still has one we could send to them.

  5. Tearful Nadine Dorries to quit as MP. 10 February 2023.

    Nadine Dorries has tearfully announced that she will be standing down as a Conservative MP at the next election, citing the “sheer stupidity” of ousting of Boris Johnson as the reason.

    The former culture secretary, who said her decision had followed “much soul-searching”, warned that the Tories’ poll ratings under Rishi Sunak were “terminal”.

    The rattesses are jumping ship!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/02/09/nadine-dorries-step-mp/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr

  6. SIR – The state of the Metropolitan Police beggars belief. The misogyny, racism, incompetence and corruption have been plain to see for years, yet nothing has been done until now.

    The horrendous murder of Sarah Everard by a serving officer, and the despicable rapes committed over many years by another serving officer, are clearly the tip of an enormous iceberg.

    The new commissioner, Sir Mark Rowley, appears to be the right person to turn the organisation around, but I am astounded that the previous commissioners over the last 15 years or so have got off so lightly. They have displayed staggering ineptitude. Yet Ian Blair and Bernard Hogan-Howe received peerages, and Cressida Dick was awarded a damehood in 2019. It is as if the force’s current problems have nothing to do with them.

    John Rump
    London SE11

    Precisely, Mr Rump. It must have been a case of “I see no ships”. Don’t look and you won’t find. Just hang on long enough for an honour and – job done! Rowley shows great promise but it is obviously a huge undertaking

    1. It seems to me that the more micro managed towards the woke agenda an organisation is, then the more they miss the real abusers of the system while putting the good people off from enlisting.

    2. I’m not too sure he shows great promise. The revelation that he cried over the state of the force when he took over was enough to make me quite sick.

      1. ‘Morning, Sue. That particular item had passed me by…

        Regrettably public blubbing is all the rage now. I have to admit to hurling naughty words at the TV when it happens!

        1. Absolutely, Hugh! The dimbo Nadine Dorries was at it last night! Absolutely vomit-inducing! Have these people no self-awareness?

          1. Something a little stronger, I fear…Mrs HJ is fully familiar with my utterances, having survived them for the past 45 years.

    3. Dear Mr Rump, please could you explain the difference between a ‘horrendous murder’ and ‘a murder’. Ditto ‘despicable rapes’.

  7. Nato shouldn’t fear calling Vladimir Putin’s nuclear bluff. Michael Fallon. 10 Febuary 2023.

    We have heard all this before – before Britain led the way in supplying tanks, before the allies supplied better air missile defence, before we provided the anti-tank weapons and heavy artillery that Ukraine needed from day one. (And I heard it back in 2014 when we refused those same weapons that could have stopped Putin much earlier, and began army training instead.)

    First, Nato isn’t at war with Russia: it remains a defensive alliance ready to protect its members from attack. But under the UN charter any country, Nato member or not, is entitled to ask its friends for help. Second, Russia has already escalated. It is shelling civilian infrastructure – apartment blocks, hospitals, nurseries – in breach of all the rules of war. Further atrocities are being committed by its troops on the ground. Third, we have heard Putin’s nuclear bluster before: each time it’s turned out to be just that – bluster.

    Just suppose Fallon, that there’s only a one in a hundred or even one in a thousand chance that he’s not bluffing (and it’s really much less than either) are you really willing to risk the lives of millions of Europeans over a third rate country on those odds?

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/02/09/nato-shouldnt-fear-calling-vladimir-putins-nuclear-bluff/

  8. SIR – During my daily walk of the dog in Allestree Park I have the pleasure of seeing Ratcliffe-on-Soar power station, 14 miles away, which is helping us keep the show on the road (“Coal power station put on standby as low winds forecast”, report, February 6). It is both impressive and reassuring.

    A Bennett
    Derby

    Make the most of it, A Bennett – although it still runs all four of its original units (2.1 GW) it is only one of three coal-fired stations remaining and it is due for closure in September next year. What then, I wonder?

  9. – Anyone else received a letter from Our Future Health in partnership with the NHS?

    asking for 5 million people to volunteer in research about your blood pressure, cholesterol and future risk of disease.

    You have to attend a local clinic and give blood samples and have blood pressure and cholesterol level;s measured.

    The also want to do an analysis of the DNA in your blood sample.

    Hmmm sounds a bit fishy to me.

  10. SIR – We now have a government department focusing on energy and net zero (Letters, February 8). Will this make the slightest difference to the current structure and workings of the energy market? Probably not.

    The zealous support for renewables coming from Labour and the Liberal Democrats was sunk on Tuesday, with wind contributing a miniscule 4 per cent to aggregated generation. Wind was outperformed by solar generation until dusk.

    The repeated assertions that wind power is the cheapest form of generation are misplaced. Both wind and solar are intermittent. Industry and commerce need reliable, cost-effective and secure power supplies. The impact of high energy prices is serious and a major constraint on British competitiveness.

    Renewables have a favoured position in the current overly complex and opaque market structure. Strip away this position and they would be uncompetitive.

    Philip N Mortimer
    Bognor Regis, West Sussex

    Quite right, Mr Mortimer.  Keep spreading the word about our hideously expensive and uncompetitive energy supply industry and one day someone might listen.  Meanwhile, Shapps is the very last person I would place at the helm! Too little and far too late.

    1. This BTLer is spot on:

      Ian Lander
      7 HRS AGO
      Your correspondents commenting on energy generation are spot on.
      Coal, Oil and Gas will be needed for years to come to avoid blackouts. I have yet to see credible figures for the energy demand when everyone is forced to drive electric cars and rely in heat pumps as promoted by the eco loons. Cars, “green” energy generation and distribution have a huge carbon footprint to get anywhere near net zero. Most electric cars are likely to be on second to fourth owners before this point is reached and probably on their second battery pack, the first one of which will be in landfill along with many solar pv’s and windmills which have reached end of life and can not be recycled.
      There is no grid infrastructure in place to support this huge change in in electrical demand and no sign of any development of the same. HS2 is a cheap transport system compared with the investment needed and already wasted on net zero and green energy.

      * * *

      And if I see one more EV advertised as “Zero emissions” I won’t be responsible for my actions! Such vehicles should be dubbed A Big Fat Lie on Four Wheels!

      1. I was chatting with the postlady yesterday. She has an EV postvan, but doesn’t rate it much. It has very little roadholding on the ice, but the biggest problem is the range on rural deliveries.

        There was not enough charge to have the heater on and get round, and she had to refuse overtime in the next village (which is actually ten miles away, on top of the ten miles from the depot on the far side of the city) without a fresh van. In the past, all she needed was to fill up with fuel and away she went.

        I came across a Swiss entrepreneur, a maker of toy scooters for children, who was incensed by the number of big, heavy SUV EVs lugging tons of blingy vehicle around with just one or two people inside. So he took an old design – the 1950s Isetta bubble car – and re-created it out of aluminium, keeping the weight down to 1/2 ton, including the battery. He can then get 120 miles at a top speed of 55mph using a charger that can plug into a 13 amp domestic socket (2.5kW in four hours). In the posh version, they even throw in a free scooter.

        Production was held up for four years because the Italian company he contracted to build the car sold up to a German venture capitalist, who then pinched the design and was going to market the prototypes with a different name, shutting out the Swiss entrepreneur, who then sued the German. It is now being sold in Switzerland and Belgium and shortly Greece, but I don’t know yet if they intend to bring it to the UK, whose people are rather wedded to the SUV concept.

        I suspect the only way we can get electric vehicles to work is to limit our aspirations to driving around in bubble cars.

  11. SIR – I have never been in favour of abolishing the House of Lords. As a revising chamber it is a useful protection against extreme legislation, but after Wednesday’s vote on the Public Order Bill (Letters, February 9) I am seriously reconsidering my opinion.

    That the blocking of a road by a protest group walking slowly and deliberately along it should not be an offence is beyond belief. If it is not a “serious disruption” of people’s legitimate activities, I do not know what is. The Lords are more interested in making trouble for the Government than implementing common sense on behalf of the public. Their action suggests to me that if I dislike a proposal by the Government or a local council, I should get friends together and walk slowly arm-in-arm along the high street or local motorway.

    J I Macnab
    Bolton, Lancashire

    SIR – The House of Lords has turned our once-proud democracy on its head. It is overcrowded and unrepresentative of the balance of power in the House of Commons. It also has a sizable majority ready to oppose any aspect of the Brexit that was voted for and is yet to be achieved.

    Promises of reform have been made in the past but, scandalously, nothing has been done.

    David Rammell
    Everton, Hampshire

    Why would both present and future turkeys vote for Christmas??  We are stuck with this expensive and overbearing deadweight for the forseeable.  The Home for Failed Politicians is here to stay, which is particularly galling in view of this government’s healthy but unused majority. Retain lifelong experts and dump the dross is surely the way to go.

    1. The very last thing the HoL should be is a clone of the HoC so that it can rubber stamp the views of the party in power.

      NO ex-politician should ever be appointed to the legislative part of that cosy little club.
      We need independently minded experts with long experience in their fields. They should only be allowed to sit in the legislative part for a maximum of ten years and then stood down to be members of the cosy club and that is if there must be such a club at all, which is a very moot point..

  12. The Government must face down the groups undermining counter-radicalism efforts. 10 February 2023.

    Disinformation, misinformation and half-truths are being used to delegitimise this vital work.

    The Prevent counter-terrorism programme was first devised in the 2000s, amid the rise of Islamist terrorism, to divert people away from being radicalised before they became an active threat. It has undergone a number of reviews since then. The latest, by William Shawcross, the former head of the Charity Commission, finds a programme with “a noble ambition” that has had a “positive impact”.

    The Prevent program is itself a process of disinformation since it rests on the false premise that terrorism can be identified and stopped before it occurs. There is absolutely no evidence to support this theory and a great deal to disprove it; the London Bridge murders being the archetypal demonstration of its fallacies.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2023/02/09/government-must-face-groups-undermining-counter-radicalism-efforts/

  13. It does kinda feel that the powers that be are doing their best to get us and the West involved in a major war in Ukraine.

    I think they are just waiting for some Russian retaliation or they will just make one up if they don’t

    1. Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab are convinced that the world’s population needs to be drastically reduced. The Covid pandemic and its lethal vaccines have done their bit but but they are not working fast enough so we need a World War to hurry things along.

  14. Good Morning from a Saxon Queen with blooded axe and long bow in handbag with marmalade sandwich.

    A cold morning with a hard frost and sunshine- the sunshine was very nice to wake up too .
    Shall make a cup of tea for husband and I. The birds are very noisy this morning.

          1. The local farm shop .. full of wild mushrooms, wild bore joints and fiery sausages and hot peppers – I shall take the longbow just incase .

  15. Number of asylum seekers placed in UK hotels has soared since 2020. 10 February 2023.

    Home Office use of hotels for asylum seekers in the UK has increased tenfold since the start of the pandemic, despite repeated pledges from the government to end use of this accommodation.

    According to the government’s own data there was a jump in contingency accommodation, which is largely hotels, from 2,577 people in March 2020 to 37,142 in September 2022.

    No comment!

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/feb/10/number-of-asylum-seekers-placed-in-uk-hotels-soared-since-2020

    1. Yo Minty

      New edict from Risky Suhhat and Co

      As from 14 February 2023, Native English Speaking Brits will be banned from using

      B&Bs,
      Guesthouses
      Airbnb (is that rite spilun/)
      Hotels
      Lodging Houses of all sorts
      Yoof Hostels
      etc
      The above accommodation will be solely reserved for the poor, destitute incoming Immigrants,

      who have bravely travelled across half the world and then The English Channel to set up new Homelands in UK.

      It is estimated that 20 of those crossing this year, will be MPs by 2030

      Any one wanna buy a tent or used caravan for their holidays?

    2. Yo Minty

      New edict from Risky Suhhat and Co

      As from 14 February 2023, Native English Speaking Brits will be banned from using

      B&Bs,
      Guesthouses
      Airbnb (is that rite spilun/)
      Hotels
      Lodging Houses of all sorts
      Yoof Hostels
      etc
      The above accommodation will be solely reserved for the poor, destitute incoming Immigrants,

      who have bravely travelled across half the world and then The English Channel to set up new Homelands in UK.

      It is estimated that 20 of those crossing this year, will be MPs by 2030

      Any one wanna buy a tent or used caravan for their holidays?

  16. 370932_+ up ticks,

    Morning Each,

    Just who are these political fine word manipulators, well there are none more adept than the political fraternity promises,vows,& pledges are their stock in trade.

    They have over the last three plus decades perfected a well horned way of dealing with the gullible via the voting pattern.

    Friday 10 February: Fine words on Ukraine will mean little if Britain doesn’t send jets.

    Will these politico’s bring the credibility of the United Kingdom
    into disrepute ? they would like nothing more.

    By the by the future shows no change for the better
    Labour wins West Lancashire byelection with best ever performance
    In her victory speech, Labour’s Ashley Dalton said the constituency ‘spoke on behalf of the country’

    Yet another political plague variant (lab) is shortly to pebble dash the United Kingdom in continuing showers of shite if no common sense / patriotic change via the polling booth is shown, NONE is expected to be.

  17. I make no apology for putting up this somewhat lengthy item published by GBN yesterday evening.

    We are all aware of the utterly scandalous situation involving the Pakistani rape gangs exposed by GBN, and in particular by Mark Steyn, without fear or favour.

    Warning – you may find the platitudinous comments from police and others to be vomit-inducing!

    * * *

    Revealed: Senior Rotherham councillors ‘knew and stayed silent’ about town’s grooming gangs scandal – Exclusive in depth investigation

    Some councillors claimed that they did not speak up about abuse after 2005 briefing due to pressure from police, but another claims that police ‘said nothing’ at meeting

    Charlie PetersGB NEWS REPORTER

    PUBLISHED Thursday 09 February 2023 – 18:51

    After a series of GB News exclusives forced Cllr. Dominic Beck to stand down as the Labour Party’s parliamentary candidate for Rother Valley in December, questions have been raised about how the local Labour Party came to select him.

    This broadcaster revealed that Cllr. Emma Hoddinott, who was deputy leader of the council when it was found to be “in denial” about the extent of the town’s child sexual exploitation scandal, was on the constituency’s selection committee that put Beck forward for the seat.

    But GB News now has evidence that the rot goes deeper, exposing that four serving Councillors from Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council (RMBC) attended a seminar outlining in “explicit detail” the town’s sex-grooming gangs scandal in 2005, but failed to speak up, citing police pressure.

    The silence of the councillors and others in positions of authority allowed the sex-grooming gangs epidemic to continue in Rotherham without sufficient council or police action. The Alexis Jay report into Rotherham in August 2014 discovered that, at a “conservative estimate,” some 1,400 girls had been abused from 1997 to 2013.

    But they were not abused in total secrecy away from the knowledge of local politicians and council officials. On April 5, 2005, local youth project Risky Business delivered a seminar on the child sexual exploitation crisis in the town. It invited all serving RMBC councillors to attend.

    Thirty serving councillors attended, including Council Leader Roger Stone, who would later resign in disgrace after failures in responding to the scandal were exposed in 2014.

    Of the 30 councillors, four still remain in office for the Labour Party in RMBC. They are: Ken Wyatt, Rose McNeely, Sue Ellis and Alan Atkin. All hold positions of responsibility in the council.

    Cllrs Wyatt and McNeely were both in the council cabinet that was forced to resign en-masse after the publication of the Jay report in August 2014, which uncovered one of the modern world’s most extensive and heinous child sexual exploitation scandals. Jay uncovered a raft of instances of council failures to intervene with the grooming gangs, with the RMBC response mired by political correctness, a nervousness about race and a denigrating perspective towards victims.

    The report named councillors Jahangir Akhtar and Mahroof Hussain as it criticised Pakistani politicians for wielding disproportionate influence.

    Last month, GB News revealed that Hussain was now working as an NHS diversity and inclusion manager despite his Rotherham failures.

    But none of the councillors can claim that they did not know about the abuse that was rife in the town, because the 2005 seminar that they attended presented significant evidence about the scandal.

    The Jay report confirmed that the seminar contained “explicit content” about child sex abuse, adding that it meant attendees then couldn’t say “we didn’t know”.

    Jay said: “Seminars for elected members and senior officers in 2004-05 presented the abuse in the most explicit terms. After these events, nobody could say ‘we didn’t know’. In 2005, the present Council Leader [Roger Stone] chaired a group to take forward the issues, but there is no record of its meetings or conclusions, apart from one minute.”

    GB News recently tracked down the youth worker who delivered the 2005 seminar. Speaking on condition of anonymity, they detailed the “horrifying abuse” that the councillors were briefed on.

    GB News has also seen a copy of a case study shown to councillors at the meeting, disclosed to this channel by an anonymous source in RMBC.

    The file outlines the experiences faced by “Julie”, not her real name, who was groomed and sexually exploited by gangs of men of Pakistani descent in Rotherham.

    The case study, delivered to the councillors in April 2005, said: “‘Julie’ first became known to the project [Risky Business] when she was 12 years old due to her ‘friendship’ with other vulnerable young women known to the project. At this time her ‘boyfriend’ was a 24 year old male who was known along with his brother for the grooming and violence towards young women in Rotherham.”

    It detailed poor attendance at school, adding: “Julie has attended hospital on numerous occasions often unaccompanied by an appropriate adult and has reported that she has been raped twice.

    “On one occasion that Julie was missing from home she was found by the local police in the car of one of the perpetrators at the back of an unused building, no arrests were made. When speaking to her worker the following day Julie disclosed she had been sexually assaulted by two of his friends and there were drugs in the boot of the vehicle.”

    Julie’s suffering was explained in “explicit detail” at the meeting.

    The file continued: “On another occasion Julie was assaulted by one of the perpetrators and the whole family received threats and had to be moved to a safe house. At this time Julie tried to exit from these men only to find they would turn up at the family home and make threats towards her mother and siblings, the police were called out on numerous occasions when windows were broken. Within a period of six months Julie and her family moved six times.”

    The case study added: “Last year [2004] RMBC rehoused the family on the adjacent street to a children’s home for vulnerable young women, the men continued to call at the home for Julie, threatening her if she would not leave with them, at this stage Julie’s mother made the unfortunate decision that the best way to protect Julie was to allow the men to visit the family home, Julie then began disclosing how they would come to the house with bags of shopping for her mother and then take it in turns to force her into oral sex in the bedroom sometimes with other young women present, and would then leave her ten cigarettes, Julie saw this as a sign that they cared about her.

    “During some of these visits Julie would also be given drugs to sell on their behalf and on one occasion the men jokingly told Julie that when they had turned onto her estate they had been stopped by the police but luckily the car had not been searched.”

    The Risky Business report confirmed that Julie had been trafficked around the country and had even spent so much time with her abusers that she spoke another unspecified language “quite fluently”.

    The Jay report also found that the council’s Sexual Exploitation Forum was “dealing with over 90 CSE cases and the decision was taken to reduce the number of cases being discussed”.

    The Rotherham youth worker told GB News that if the councillors who had attended the 2005 seminar had raised the alarm on the abuse, the council might not have gotten away with that reduction in cases.

    “The council not only knew what was happening, but chose to close that service down: rather than listen and act, they shut us down.”

    At the time of their resignations in 2014, Wyatt had been responsible for finance; McNeely was responsible for ‘Safe and Attractive Neighbourhoods.’

    In their current roles as experienced councillors, Wyatt and McNeely are both committee chairs, taking up senior roles.

    Wyatt chairs the Improving Places Select Committee, but most shockingly, McNeely has been allowed to chair the council’s Standards and Ethics Committee, which is responsible for “promoting and maintaining high standards of conduct by councillors, independent members and co-opted members.”

    Wyatt earns an additional £8,617 in special allowances for his committee chairman role, while McNeely picks up an additional £3,460 on top of her councillor wages.

    A survivor from the town’s child sexual exploitation scandal — who lives with complex PTSD, depression and anxiety after enduring years of abuse — told GB News: “Neither Wyatt, McNeely, Ellis, Atkin nor any other person who attended that seminar and said nothing should be allowed to hold any public office or positions of authority.”

    Elizabeth, not her real name, added: “Wyatt and McNeely were forced out of the cabinet for their leadership roles during the council’s abject response to the worst child abuse scandal in modern history. That they have been given these committee roles is scandalous.

    “What is even more shocking is that McNeeley is the chair of the Standards and Ethics committee after she failed to act after being briefed ‘in the most explicit terms’ about the rape gangs scandal.”

    She added: “It is a slap in the face to the thousands of survivors of abuse like myself who were ignored for so many years that these councillors have been allowed to continue their careers while we have to suffer in silence.”

    The local youth worker said: “I didn’t know that McNeeley was the Standards and Ethics chairwoman, I am shocked to hear that. That is an unforgivable appointment.”

    Two other councillors who were present at that infamous seminar, Sue Ellis and Alan Atkin, have also continued to serve in RMBC.

    They were also presented with extensive evidence about the rape gangs scandal but they said nothing and they did nothing.

    Despite this, they have been allowed to continue to serve as elected officials for the Labour Party.

    Atkin has additional responsibility as chair of the Planning Board, which affords him an extra £8,617 in allowances. He also sits on the “Improving Lives” committee.

    When the Casey report in 2015 said that RMBC was not fit for purpose, Atkin said they were “her opinions” that he only agreed with “in part.”

    During a community action partnership meeting on July 25, 2019, Atkin hinted at his regret for staying silent over the town’s sexual exploitation scandal after the 2005 seminar.

    Referring to a poor relationship between the police and the local authority in Rotherham at multi-agency meetings, Atkin said: “It’s always been the same with the police. They don’t trust elected members to keep secrets.

    “I wish I hadn’t kept a secret in 2005. I would be in a very different place, the council would have been, but that’s a long story.”

    When GB News asked Cllr. Atkin about the 2005 seminar, he said that the police told him to keep details of child sexual exploitation in the town secret.

    Atkin said: “The police said that they were investigating some people and that we had to keep quiet so as to not jeopardise the inquiry, so I did.”

    The councillor conceded that he kept quiet for many years despite no arrests for CSE in the town until 2010, telling GB News “well that’s the problem isn’t it.”

    GB News asked Atkin if he regretted not speaking up, and he confirmed that he did, adding “we all trusted the police to do their job.”

    But between 2005 and 2008, neither Atkin nor any of the other councillors chased up the police for updates on their supposed investigation into the horrific and graphic details of abuse they were briefed on.

    Asked why he didn’t chase up the police for details on their supposed investigation into grooming gangs, Atkin told GB News that he failed to do so because he “was getting on with the rest of my life. I was just getting on with things”.

    Atkin apologised to survivors from Rotherham for failing to chase the police to act or give details of their supposed investigation from 2005 after being briefed on the extent of their crimes.

    “I regret and I apologise for not speaking up after 2005 when I knew,” he said.

    Atkin claimed that he did not remember the names of any of the police officers who told him to keep the issue a secret.

    Another councillor who attended the meeting, Sue Ellis, has been a councillor since 1995, two years before the Jay report’s period of investigation.

    Wyatt and Ellis told angry members of the public in 2014 that they were advised to keep the information from the 2005 seminar “confidential”, hinting that police pressure kept them from speaking up.

    Ellis said: “We were asked for it to be restricted … so that we didn’t jeopardise police prosecutions. I think it would be a very brave person who would have gone out and actually jeopardised police prosecutions as people have criticised them for not getting these.”

    Neither Wyatt nor Ellis have named who told them to keep details from the 2005 seminar “confidential.”

    Wyatt said at the same meeting: “Yes, we knew that it was happening, especially from that seminar.

    “That seminar also covered the issue of it being a national problem.”

    He added: “It was not at the scale we have subsequently found out.”

    In 2022, when the police watchdog’s investigation into South Yorkshire Police’s involvement in the Rotherham abuse scandal was completed, none of the 47 officers investigated were sacked due to the findings.

    The report found “systemic problems” within South Yorkshire Police, which meant that “it was simply not equipped to deal with the abuse and organised grooming of young girls on the scale we encountered”.

    GB News understands that as the seminar took place 18 years ago, there is no evidence to confirm or deny that a police officer attended the 2005 seminar or told the councillors to keep quiet about the extent of CSE in the town.

    The youth worker who delivered the 2005 seminar told GB News that the scale of the problem delivered at the seminar was “extremely large,” adding that it detailed “in horrifying detail a range of shocking stories of abuse.”

    GB News asked Cllr Ellis why she had remained silent after the 2005 seminar and asked if she would apologise to survivors for not asking the police to provide updates to their investigation.

    Ellis told this broadcaster: “I have said all that I am willing to say on this issue. I explained myself at the time. I am not really prepared to add anything extra.”

    When GB News told Ellis that Cllr. Atkin had apologised for his silence and asked if she would do the same, Ellis said: “I have said all that I’m going to say. I’m not saying anything else.” Cllr. Ken Wyatt told GB News that he was unable to take a phone call. He did not respond to further requests for comment.

    However, Cllr. Rose McNeeley disputed Atkin’s account given to GB News and the account given by Ellis and Wyatt in 2014.

    She said: “I don’t recall the police saying anything to us.”

    McNeeley said she remembered attending the meeting, but also disputed the account given to GB News by the youth worker who delivered the seminar.

    She said: “The seminar is just a thing to tell us what the service does. It does not give us any individual casework.”

    McNeeley denied that the seminar covered specific case studies, telling GB News that it just gave an overview of the service that youth workers dealing with CSE provided to the council.

    GB News has seen notes from the 2005 seminar, which gave specific details of a case study involving “Julie”, who youth workers told the councillors about.

    McNeeley’s account also stands in denial of the Jay report’s claim that “nobody could say they didn’t know” about the extent of the CSE crisis in the town after the 2005 seminar.

    Claims and suggestions by Wyatt, Ellis and Atkin that they were pressured by the police to keep quiet over sex-grooming gangs in Rotherham have also been weakened by revelations that there were no police investigations into the issue in the town in the year of the seminar.

    The first South Yorkshire Police investigation into the grooming gangs scandal in Rotherham to achieve convictions did not start until 2008 — three years later — when Sergeant Chang launched Operation Central, which finally brought some convictions in 2010.

    In 2010, South Yorkshire Police’s Rotherham branch had just three officers working on child sexual exploitation.

    GB News has not found evidence of any other investigation into group-localised CSE in Rotherham from 1997 and before Operation Central in 2008.

    The youth project worker who delivered the seminar in 2005 told GB News: “I was not aware at the time of any police investigations in 2005, the first was Operational Central in 2008.”

    Calls for Ellis and Wyatt to resign after their silence following the 2005 seminar was revealed were met with applause at a public meeting in 2014, but they have both clung on to their positions.

    Ellis is currently chair of the Licensing Board, which includes regulating private hire and taxi licensing. This is a vital role that is highly relevant to child sexual exploitation, with several reports establishing the extensive links between taxi drivers in Rotherham’s grooming gangs scandal.

    Many of Rotherham’s most prolific rapists were taxi drivers. The Casey report found that RMBC referred to the town’s Pakistani taxi drivers as “men of a certain ethnicity engaged in a certain occupation,” detailing the severe political correctness that hampered accurate and sustained investigation.

    Ellis was involved in another scandal in her licensing role in 2021, after she “didn’t notice” £9,000 in allowance overpayments lasting 15 months after she was paid wages despite leaving her role on a pensions board.

    Ellis serves in the same ward as Council Leader Chris Read and Hoddinott, Wickersley North.

    She also serves as a parish councillor in Wickersley, where she is joined by former RMBC councillor Maggie Godfrey, who was forced to resign from the RMBC cabinet in February 2015 after the Casey report found that it was “in denial.” Godfrey’s register of interests confirm that she is still a Labour Party member.

    In 2016, after the town’s abuse scandal was well-publicised, Labour’s then-shadow communities and local government secretary and Hemsworth MP Jon Trickett said that the party had sought to cut off ties with councillors who had failed in Rotherham.

    He said: “The Labour Party was determined that any candidate that stood for the Labour Party was absolutely clear of any of the problems that the area had faced. So it was very rigorous, very tough. Some long standing councillors were no longer able to go onto the list.”

    But of the 30 councillors who knew about the extent of the grooming gangs scandal after the 2005 seminar, four have still been allowed to stand for Labour in 2016 and 2021: Ellis, Wyatt, Atkin and McNeely.

    With Beck standing down as Labour’s parliamentary candidate for Rother Valley, pressure is piling on the local party to root out those who were in any way involved in the failure to deal with Rotherham’s child sexual exploitation scandal.

    The Conservative MP for Rother Valley Alexander Stafford told GB News: “For too long, Rotherham has been plagued by a ruling political class that cares not for the people of Rotherham but for looking after their own interests. That even now some senior sitting Labour councillors will not apologise for the heinous crimes that happened under their watch is scandalous.

    “No one who downplayed the severity of what happened in Rotherham, or who stayed silent on the atrocity for several years, should hold any position of authority.”

    Stafford added: “Labour’s grip on all levels of power in Rotherham for so long means they have failed to accept the magnitude or heinous nature of these crimes. Instead, there is a culture of silence and denial, at the expense of the many victims.”

    South Yorkshire Police Deputy Chief Constable Tim Forber told GB News: “The Jay Report brought a stark reality of our failings in handling CSE. We let victims of CSE down. We failed to recognise their vulnerability and failed to see them as victims, for that I am deeply sorry. They deserved better from us.

    “The brave accounts of these girls caused a seismic change in policing crimes of this nature for South Yorkshire Police and the wider police service.

    “Since then we have worked closely with experts in this field, and with our partner agencies to develop effective and robust systems – systems recognised in this way in a recent independent examination of our current practice. We listened to the voices of those affected and learnt the lessons of the past. Those lessons have been embedded in everything we do.

    “We now have dedicated multi-agency teams in Rotherham working closely to share intelligence on suspects and to identify children who may be at risk. We use the collective powers and authorities of the agencies represented in the group to explore that intelligence and take action at the earliest opportunity, to prevent harm wherever possible.

    “Where harm does occur, we work compassionately and with utmost professionalism to stop that harm, to seek justice and to ensure the girls are properly safeguarded.

    “We have invested in new IT systems and dramatically improved our crime recording.

    “We prioritise the protection of vulnerable people and have a deep and ingrained understanding of CSE in all of its forms. We have campaigns in the community to help members of the public spot the early signs and report it to us. We have also created best practice in training workers in key roles who may have opportunity to spot the signs such as hotel staff, takeaway staff, and staff at leisure facilities.

    This is a fast changing area of work and we know there are many different forms of CSE. I believe we properly positioned now to be able to spot emerging trends and to act quickly to safeguard those most at risk.

    “Whilst I am confident we are a very different force today, I will not lose sight of the fact that we got it wrong and we let victims down.”

      1. There’s more that need arrested and locked away for ever.
        Perpetrators
        Councillors
        Police
        Westminster politicians – for telling the girls to shut up.

      2. Glad you found the link, BoB. The item was on GBN’s app and I tried to find it elsewhere, but no joy.

    1. Good morning Hugh J

      I read your long article , now I am feeling shocked .

      Youngsters like that will be blighted for the rest of their lives .

      Those of us who are baby boomers who enjoyed all the trappings of the 1960s, the shows, concerts careers and fashion , and joyfulness, feeling safe and secure from predators etc and we all mostly now have good memories to share with many others .

      What memories will the groomed and tampered with youngsters have in later years, when they are older .. will they live with shame and worthlessness, goodness only knows.

    2. When I was a child , most small girls enjoyed skipping rope exercises in the school playground .

      We had rhymes which we sang as we used the long skipping ropes .. one at each end of the rope to turn it .

      So many songs were cautionary .. we hadn’t a clue what they meant, because we just learned by rote as we all chanted , waiting for our turn to jump into the turning rope.

      ‘My mother said, I never should,
      Play with the gypsies in the wood;
      Grave were the dangers, so said she,
      Of mucking about with Romany.’

      I doubt that young girls chant or play school games like hopscotch, or skipping very much .

      Otherwise they wouldn’t be tempted to go off with strange men and accept gifts .

      1. Quite right Belle – and thanks for your reminder of a lovely age of innocence that disappeared long ago.

      2. Remember the clapping songs too?

        My mama told me if I was goody

        That she would buy me a rubber dolly
        My Aunty told her I kissed a soldier

        Now she won’t buy me a rubber dolly.

        1. Yes I do, we were all so lucky to have games and chants like that.

          Remember ball games ?

          Tennis balls against a wall using a pair of them or even three, and then some one else would slide in and take over .. we used to time how long we could do that before we dropped the balls .

          Then the play ground whistle would blow , end of play time and the game would be ruined .

          1. All I can remember about those days was the girls tucking their skirts into their navy knickers and doing handstands against a wall

    3. Yet more proof that laws around “ethnicity and protected status” are totally wrong. They hinder any investigations into Pakistani rape gangs.

      We should all be equal under the law and yet we are not. Doesn’t help, does it.

      1. I agree. In their ridiculous efforts to ‘protect’ the perpetrators those who indulge in this nonsence, in a perverse way, have actually promoted waycism. Whoda thunkit?? And the same goes for programme and ad makers. In fact in so many walks of life they have damaged race relations in so many ways.

  18. For CofE adherents, a nice summary of The Midwife pontificating at the General Synod yesterday::

    “That celebrated comedy turn the Bishop of London kept intoning, “I am going to resist this amendment”, as if saying no to hock during Lent. At one point Her Grace got “matrimony” confused with “communion” and various vicars and deacons slapped their foreheads in silent despair at her hopelessness.”

  19. Email just received:

    You’re receiving this email because you signed this petition: “Investigate UK excess deaths not related to Covid.”.

    To unsubscribe from getting emails about this petition: https://petition.parliament.uk/signatures/131676352/unsubscribe?token=EzPpUAPMJoDMnPsxzdoD

    Dear Richard Tracey,

    The Government has responded to the petition you signed – “Investigate UK excess deaths not related to Covid.”.

    Government responded:

    A combination of factors has contributed to the number of excess deaths. The government is taking steps to address this and will announce further detail in the forthcoming Major Conditions Strategy.

    Our analysis suggests that it is likely that a combination of factors has contributed to an increase in the number of non-Covid excess deaths in the latter part of 2022, including high flu prevalence and health conditions such as heart disease and diabetes.

    There are a range of organisations reviewing the registered death figures. These produce different estimates of excess deaths based on different methodologies and areas covered.

    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) and Office for Health Improvement and Disparities (OHID) estimates differ as they use different methodologies and cover different geographies:

    • The ONS excess is calculated by comparing the number of deaths registered in a week with the average number registered in the equivalent week in 5 earlier years. For 2022, the comparison is with deaths registered in 2016 to 2019 and 2021.

    • OHID compares the number of registered deaths in a week with the number expected based on the trend in mortality rates in the years 2015 to 2019. This method takes into account population growth and ageing. OHID analysis is just for England.

    OHID analysis shows that, in England, for the week ending 28 October, the leading causes of death contributing to the excess were deaths involving cardiovascular diseases; the highest levels of excess mortality were for deaths involving heart failure (21% higher than expected), and ischaemic heart diseases (17% higher than expected). Deaths involving acute respiratory infections were 16% higher than expected. Deaths involving cancer, Parkinson’s disease, other respiratory diseases, and dementia and Alzheimer’s were lower than expected. You can view OHID’s excess mortality tool here: https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/excess-mortality-in-england-and-english-regions.

    OHID estimates show that for deaths registered in England during the whole of 2022, deaths involving four conditions were all over 10% higher than expected: heart failure (15% higher), cirrhosis and other liver diseases (14%), diabetes (12%) and ischaemic heart diseases (11%).

    We are taking steps to help reduce excess deaths. Based on the current rate of recovery, we expect NHS Health Check delivery, a core part of our cardiovascular disease (CVD) prevention pathway, to return to pre-pandemic levels by June 2023 and we are creating a national digital check so we can go even further. The Department of Health and Social Care continues to work closely with partners to consider what more can be done to improve the prevention, detection, diagnosis and management of CVD and we will set out our plan in the Major Conditions Strategy.

    Our Major Conditions Strategy will focus on preventing the major conditions which contribute to early mortality and reduce years of good health including heart disease, stroke and diabetes and tackling the factors that drive these. For further information, click here: https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-statements/detail/2023-01-24/hcws514.

    We know that when people have heart attacks and strokes they need urgent care. That is why we have set an ambition in the recently published delivery plan for recovering urgent and emergency care services for ambulances getting to patients quicker: with improved ambulance response times for Category 2 incidents to 30 minutes on average over 2023/24, with further improvement in 2024/25 towards pre-pandemic levels. For further information, click here: https://www.england.nhs.uk/2023/01/major-plan-to-recover-urgent-and-emergency-care-services/.

    The NHS has published a delivery plan setting out a clear vision for how the NHS will recover and expand elective services over the next three years. The plan commits the NHS to deliver 9 million additional treatments and diagnostic procedures over the next three years and around 30 per cent more elective activity than it was doing before the pandemic by 2024-25. Through the pathway improvement programme, we will create extra capacity for elective care and improve patient health outcomes. For further information, click here: https://www.england.nhs.uk/coronavirus/publication/delivery-plan-for-tackling-the-covid-19-backlog-of-elective-care/.

    Department of Health and Social Care
    lick this link to view the response online:

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/628188?reveal_response=yes

    The Petitions Committee will take a look at this petition and its response. They can press the government for action and gather evidence. If this petition reaches 100,000 signatures, the Committee will consider it for a debate.

    The Committee is made up of 11 MPs, from political parties in government and in opposition. It is entirely independent of the Government. Find out more about the Committee: https://petition.parliament.uk/help#petitions-committee

    Thanks,
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    1. “Major Condition Strategy”. Sounds, er, impressive….I wonder if Mrs Currie will be involved.

    2. Quoting from the above email:

      It is likely that a combination of factors has contributed to an increase in the number of non-Covid excess deaths in the latter part of 2022, including high flu prevalence and health conditions such as heart disease and diabetes.”

      So nothing to do with the Covid ‘vaccines.’ That’s a relief!

    1. Morning oggy. I hadn’t noticed his absence. It was uncanny how quickly he was onto your posts. I did suspect GCHQ!

      1. 370932+ up ticks,

        Morning N,

        phuwww, that’s a relief, I thought I had lost it,my on target IDer.

  20. Remember the petition “ Prevent the Expansion of London’s ULEZ to the outer london area” which was inexplicably rejected?

    There’s a new one: “ Hold a referendum on removing the London Assembly and London Mayor
    We believe too much power is in the hands of the London Assembly and London Mayor. We are particularly concerned about the impact of expanding the ULEZ on people who are struggling with a cost of living crisis to put food on the tables, keep kids clothed and fed while struggling to heat homes.”

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/631763

  21. It’s America, but could equally apply in most liberal democracies.
    https://www.takimag.com/article/heres-why-spending-fights-are-getting-more-frequent/

    Of course, with our debt and deficit growing, legislators will try to collect more taxes. If they succeed, the revenue will be a drop in the bucket full of mandatory red ink. However, I predict that their effort will fail.
    A look at the data shows that no matter the federal tax rates under the current regime, since the 1940s, collections have never been more than 20% of GDP. That’s in part because politicians are pressured to redistribute lots of resources back to taxpayers through the tax code with provisions like the child tax credit and other deductions. Adding to the difficulty is the fact that higher marginal tax rates slow the economy and, eventually, limit the scope of tax collections as Americans make less money.

    Free stuff paid for by increasing debt.

    By contrast, the amount spent on non-discretionary programs such as Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid has doubled as a portion of total spending, from 31% of the budget in 1970 to around 62% in 2023.
    Meanwhile, interest payments on the national debt are another fast-growing mandatory-spending component of the federal budget. Altogether, mandatory spending on entitlements and interest payments accounts for over 70% of the budget and is projected to consume more than 80% by 2040. Legislators barely have a say over such payments, even though these increasingly dominate the budget.

  22. Funny thing. I thought we hadn’t heard much about the ever-charming Sergei Lavrov – since he was “taken ill” in Indonesia. I wondered if he was dead.

    No such luck.

    He has spent this week flying round former French Africa buying up countries and promising to help them get rid of ISIS. One almost wises he would come here and make the same offer…..

    1. While we supply arms to Ukraine, Russia supplies grain to Africa and China builds infrastructure there. Wonder who’ll win?

  23. Good morning all,

    Away from McPhee Towers and up in the Smoke for a couple of days. TCW Celebration of Dissent in the Emmanuel Centre was superbly well attended last night. The place was packed. Sold out.

    I’d seen the documentary Safe and Effective – a Second Opinion before but it was no less shocking the second time. Cameo appearances in the film by Gates, Johnson, Blair and Hancock prompted a satisfying volume of boos and jeers. The Two Minutes Hate had nothing on that.

    A Surprise appearance by Mike Yeadon earned a standing ovation, Andrew Bridgen and Sir Christopher Chope dropped a couple of pearls. The whole event was very well compered by James Delingpole.

    Well done, Kathy Gyngell.

    1. If this piccy was taken as a ‘longshot’ you would see that the ‘tanker is plugged into an EV charging point
      (at the top of a block of flats), which both planes are circling.

  24. Let’s give Ukraine everything it wants, they will use it all to best effect to start WW3

    Ukraine is prepared to use British long-range missiles to strike annexed Crimea as western involvement in the battle against Putin escalates – and Kremlin readies 1,800 tanks and 400 fighter jets ‘for huge new invasion in ten days’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11732977/Russia-prepared-1-800-tanks-4-000-armoured-vehicles-invasion-ten-days.html

    I recognise that world leaders don’t tend to send out assassination squads against each other, because they fear tit-for-tat retaliation, but there are several strutting around who would benefit the world from being a victim of a pre-emptive strike.

    1. The Spectator has practically given up commenting on Ukraine until after the storm has passed!

      1. The lies and half truths that are being published as facts will leave many news and comment outlets looking embarrassed. Nottle may be one, but at least we’ve tried to examine both sides rather than sallow all the propaganda.

          1. My rifle is a 1943 Mauser K.98 rechambered to fit 30-06. Firstborn’s too, except his scope optics are Zeiss. Gun is so accurate, he can castrate a fly at 200 metres! Mine, accurate gun, wobbly operator.
            Then, there’s the shotguns.
            And the handguns.
            … 😉

  25. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzzumaitk4M Way back in the late 1960s there was a tribute programme on television honouring the career and productive output of the late composer, Burt Bacharach. One of the most popular songs he composed in tandem with his lyricist, Hal David, was Wishin’ and Hopin’ which was recorded concurrently by The Merseybeats and Dusty Springfield.

    Both acts came together, on that programme, to perform the song as a kind of ‘duet’, which sort of works (bearing in mind the lack of modern technology available in those day). At the time I had no preference for either version and I still hold to that premise.

      1. You know you’re in trouble when you read that as “trans and boats and planes” and it takes you a second to realise you’ve read it wrong

      2. Oh, come on, Maggie. Where did you find that utterly dreadful version of a lovely song? The versions by Dionne Warwick and Billy J Kramer and the Dakotas are both massively superior to that dross.

  26. Yesterday I got a very amateurish fraudulent e-mail from “Driver and Vehicle Monitoring Information.
    Recent Reminder [V11] [last chance]
    Hello
    Your Vehicle is no longer Taxed
    Tax Your Vehicle. Start Now
    Rohan Gye
    Vehicle Service Manager.
    There is a lot more gibberish in the e-mail.
    I don’t think any Nottler will be conned by this rubbish but I wish there was an e-mail address we could send this sort of fraud to be investigated.

  27. Good Moaning.
    To start the day on a happy note, and before I make my trip to the tip, I will repost my epic rant from yesterday evening.
    It’s Not Easy Being Green. Knowing Ar se from Elbow come to mind. Cold as Charity is another cliche.
    In fact, it’s bloody frustrating.

    “I am absolutely furious.

    British Heart Foundation were taking 6 items today. They had seen photos of the furniture and agreed to take them.

    The van arrived late, so our morning was spent doing stuff but not what we’d planned.

    The BHF men took only the recliner chairs; they claimed they couldn’t take the rest because it was painted wood.

    I have now had to Freecycle 4 extra items. If they haven’t gone by Monday they will go to the tip.

    And we are constantly preached at for being wasteful!!! All this baloney about recycling and wasting the planet’s resources is a load of old guff when faced with the bloody British bureaucrat.”

    1. Just try donating/selling anything with soft furnishing – no fire safety tag, no can do.
      So, it all went to the tip. 2 sofas, 6 armchairs, all perfectly good but unwanted.

    2. It’s all getting pretty stupid out there now Anne.
      They don’t like paint in case it contains lead !!
      I arrived at our local tip with some glass shelves from our old drinks cupboard. Big mistake I was in a small van and the shelves were in the passenger floor well. I had a rude verbal attack by a dump officer as I took the selves out. Basically after a heated argument I decided to park in the street and carry the shelves in.
      I made sure that the divot saw me and even sarcastically asked him to make sure they were going into the correct bin.
      The tip organisers received an email.

      1. Every dump has its gauleiter.
        And there is CCTV and there are supervisors somewhere.
        However, every gauleiter is human.
        Try a jar of coffee or some biscuits and a bit of oiling and greasing.

    1. It’s been proven time and time again that our politicians and their ‘experts’ have no concept of public opinion.
      If the government wants to survive they need to take notice of the millions who vote, not the few who they pay to agree with them.

      1. Concept? They don’t care about it, public needs to shut up, sit down, and do what it’s told.

    1. They wonder why kids are screwed up! It seems the political solution to any problem is bury your head deeply in the sand and hope its not noticed at the next election.

    2. On more than two fronts now our established culture and social structure is being attacked by the Dopey Wokeys. I’m almost ashamed of what has happened to this country. It’s even worse in an historical point of view, when we think about the sacrifices made to protect our aforementioned, C&SS in the two world wars.
      And our useless stupid political classes are setting up the next planned phases by allowing anyone who turns up on our doorstep uninvited to stay. Not having the faintest idea who they are and what they plan between them.

      1. These foreign markets are just facinating. Probably like markets of old here but now they just seem to flog whats left after the supermarkets have had their pick. Mind you, I didnt need the beef stall to advertise its wares with 4 cow’s heads, a sign would have done..

      2. Fresh dates, strong coffee – perfect breakfast, made better by adding ripe pawpaw with a squeeze of lime…

          1. Never tried salt… weird.
            Love fresh pawpaw – from a proper, BIG pawpaw, not some kind of avocado-sized one.

          2. Our local greengrocer sells them along with medjool dates, dragon fruit and other exotic fruits and vegetables.

          3. Oh! Papaya, eat them all the time. Wonderful fruit. Mangoes too, love them both. Been thinking of making a papaya cheesecake, I have never seen a recipe for that.

          4. I think the nearest Efnick shop to me would be in Guildford, some 20+ miles from here, we do not do anything other than the real ethnics, the English, unless you count the ubiquitous Chinese take away.

        1. Haven’t tried pawpaws, are they good? Dates, flat bread, yoghurt, typical Libyan breakfast. I still eat that but decent dates are now quite expensive in the UK. I buy Israeli dates om eBay because the rest for sale are Palestinian and I wouldn’t give a penny to that lot of creeps.

        2. If Mr Lime gets fresh with me and tries to give me a squeeze, I trap his little pawpaws in the door jamb!

        1. After my father came home from the war, Christmas 1945, when I was evidently conceived. September 1946 when I was born.

    1. I remember dates – my parents used to buy them at Christmas and then no-one ever ate them. Sticky, sweet and cloying.

      1. “Eat Me” was the provocative name on the box of dates which used to appear in our Christmas stockings.

      2. We used to get cheap ones drenched in glucose syrup in Britain. The good quality ones like proper Deglet Nour, or the Israeli ones (Medjoul?), or Iranian dates, are wonderful!

  28. Morning all 😉 😊
    Lovely sunny start double figures this week end and next week.
    It’s a bit of a stupid idea to be sending arms and ammunition to Ukraine.
    Russia will cut off our gas supply completely.
    Unfortunately typical of all of our nob heads in the political sphere.
    It’s not our argument. Butt out !

    1. This picture of the of the Ukrainian and the Indian appeared on the Nottlers’ forum yesterday so I am posting my comment – which went up very late – again:; (Sorry Peddy!)

      Those aren’t just helmets – those are complete pricks!

  29. Moh and I watched the Apprentice on the Beeb last night .

    It was a load of cack.

    We were however fascinated by the aerial shots of Dubai.

    Gobsmacked by the abundance of architecture, roads , and everything that oil wealth has bestowed ..

    Electricity, water etc where does that come from?

    With so much wealth , what are the Arabs doing for Turkey and Syria.. is it just the Uk impoverishing itself by giving more aid?

    How many Turks do we have in the UK.. and are they all wealthy barbers?

    1. My brother has lived and worked from there, with his family, for the past three years. They love the place.

      He can even buy pork there in places reserved for non-Muslims.

    2. It is truly magnificent in Dubai but it doesn’t have a heart. Not sure it’s oil wealth as they have very little but the have one of the largest container ports in the world and anything going into that area goes via Dubai.

    3. The Arabs only ‘do things’ for their own gain.
      And the water comes from massive desalination plants. Which result in a huge increase of salt in the water of the gulf.
      As you are probably know from hubby they now have many new golf courses where it once was desert.
      The grass is green but Arabia is not in anyway.
      We are now the martyrs of climate change.

    4. Apparently it has a great entrepeneurial buzz. Not sure I would like to live somewhere where movement can be so easily controlled, plus the underbelly of low paid people from poor countries who seem to have no possibility to improve their lot.

  30. A friend of mine who used to teach Chemistry at Sherborne sent me this.

    Murphy, a furniture dealer from Dublin, decided to expand the line of furniture in his store, so he decided to go to Paris to see what he could find.

    After arriving in Paris , he visited with some manufacturers and selected a line that he thought would sell well back home. To celebrate the new acquisition, he decided to visit a small bistro and have a glass of wine.

    As he sat enjoying his wine, he noticed that the small place was quite crowded, and that the other chair at his table was the only vacant seat in the house.
    Before long, a very beautiful young Parisian girl came to his table and asked him something in French (which Murphy could not understand) , so he motioned to the vacant chair and invited her to sit down.

    He tried to speak to her in English, but she did not speak his language. After a couple of minutes of trying to communicate with her, he took a napkin and drew a picture of a wine glass and showed it to her. She nodded, so he ordered a glass of wine for her. After sitting together at the table for a while, he took another napkin, and drew a picture of a plate with food on it, and she nodded. They left the bistro and found a quiet café that featured a small group playing romantic music.

    They ordered dinner, after which he took another napkin and drew a picture of a couple dancing. She nodded, and they got up to dance. They danced until the café closed and the band was packing up.

    Back at their table, the young lady took a napkin and drew a picture of a four-poster bed. To this day, Murphy has no idea how she figured out he was in the furniture business

  31. Good morning, chums. I’ve been up since 10 to 4, and it’s now just gone 10.20, so I have been “at it” for six and a half hours sorting out my computer “jobs” files. I set myself this job for this week and I’m almost there. Of course, this will enable me to print out dozens of pages of “jobs” which will keep me busy for ages, but I’m determined to soldier on and get there eventually. Some one-line “jobs” are simple, such as “get rid of any limescale on taps”. Other one-line “jobs”, such as “write my own autobiography” will take some considerable time. So I won’t bore you all with my progress, except perhaps once a year. Now to find Tom’s “funny” and skim through a few of your posts, then it’s off to bed for a catch-up on my sleep. See you all later this evening.

    PS – And a very Happy Birthday to my neighbour Korky in downtown Colchester.

  32. Church of England ostracised after it backs blessings for gay couples
    Leading Anglican body warns that the historic vote has ‘triggered a widespread loss of confidence’ in Justin Welby

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/02/09/church-england-ostracised-backs-blessings-gay-couples/

    Whom will Welby next choose to bless – rapists, paedophiles, women with penises or Satanists?

    The problem for me is that even though this is a joke in rather poor taste I am not convinced that such blessings are not inked in on the Archpillock of Canterbury’s ‘to do’ list.

    1. This has been on the cards for some time. The worldwide Anglican Communion has always accepted the leadership of the See of Canterbury but many, especially in Africa, have been saying that they will choose their own leader if Welby pursues this path. Welby hopes to buy their allegiance with the promise of funding and thus far has had some success with that tactic.

      1. Strange that the most savage of continents might be the last bastion of unwoke Protestant Christianity.

        1. We have several African priests in our local churches – indeed our own parish priest comes Burkina Faso.

          As one of them observed : A Hundred years ago you brought Christ’s message to us in Africa; now we are bringing Christ’s message to you in Europe.

          Indeed my Aunt Decima was a medical doctor married to another medical doctor and they were missionaries in Rwanda.

      2. What about rural parishes?
        If we stop donating, it plays into their hands, because they will just close churches.

        1. Yes but if Welby can only maintain allegiance in Africa by giving them our money, he’s going to continue taking that money from the wealthier parishes and closing the smaller ones and in the manner of the NHS he’s also rather keen on funding diocesan diversity managers at the expense of rural parishes. The rural and failing inner city parishes will continue to lose out becasue as long as the money keeps coming, it will continue to be misused. Perhaps the wealtheir parishes should fund the poorer ones directly and not via a corrupt administration?

  33. Good morning.
    Just back from two days skiing – perfect snow, blue skies, brilliant sunshine.
    Here’s a message just for Citroen….I doubt young LeClair created the graph himself. It was re-tweeted by Willem Middelkoop – look him up. And stop being a jerk!

    1. Glad to hear it but I understand that it has been patchy in places. I’m off in 3 weeks to Austria with my daughter to keep me on the straight and narrow.

      1. At Firstborn’s farm, the snow level is halfway up the windows, and there’s no getting about unless you have skis or snowshoes. Fortunately, we have old NATO planks, gets you about OK without sinking in, and can take ordinary boots not specialist ones.

      2. There’s plenty of snow higher up in the Zillertal. It’s cold enough, they’ve just had a very dry winter.

          1. Downhill. We do go cross country skiing sometimes, but it’s only really fun on completely flat ground – for me, anyway. I have also seen very cool shortish skis with a pad on the bottom of the ski that you can wear while trekking up the mountain, and at the top you fasten the boots down, remove the pad and ski down.

  34. GBN headline:

    State pension triple lock under threat: Fears grow policy to be scrapped – ‘It’s hard to justify!’

    Now there’s a surprise…

      1. The Sunday Times claims that we are paying for 140,000 asylum seekers to be idle.

        The money has to come from somewhere.

        1. I thought that the government were happy with the >45,000 Channel hoppers (Guardian report, so must be true) that arrived last year. If the ST is correct then >31,000 have been deported. The Home Sec and PM have kept their word.
          Then I woke up!

        2. I’m confused.
          Is it taking longer than expected to find them suitable jobs in the medical, engineering and teaching professions?

    1. A two year supply of midazolam might have been sufficient to balance the books if they’d only seen fit to curb their ambitions for the size of the incoming army.

    1. Should have sent it by Amazon instead of using the post office. They would have delivered it next day!

    2. At least it’s on its way. My credit card statement failed to arrive so I’ve had to guess how much is on it to pay it.

  35. What has happened at Disney is so annoying and depressing:

    The child grooming outlet called Disney+ lost 2.4 million subscribers during the fourth quarter of 2022. That’s the first subscriber loss since the woke outlet launched in 2020.

    The news wasn’t all bad for the perverts looking to sexualize underage children. The loss was primarily in India over a contract issue involving sports:

    The drop in Disney+ subscribers — which was bigger than analysts expected — was entirely driven by a 3.8 million sequential decline Disney+ Hotstar, the version of the service offered in India and parts of Southeast Asia, to stand at 161.8 million at the end of 2022. Last year, Disney lost streaming rights to Indian Premier League (IPL) cricket matches, which prompted it to lower growth targets for Disney+ Hotstar in India.

    Here in the U.S. Disney managed to add 200,000 subscribers, and did so despite a price hump from $7.99 per month to $10.99:

    In the U.S./Canada, Disney+ gained about 200,000 subs (to reach 46.6 million). Hulu gained 800,000 in the quarter to stand at 48.0 million, and ESPN+ increased by 600,000 to 24.9 million.

    The bad news for Disney, and this is truly bad, is that its growth has stalled out, especially here in the U.S. Disney+ is only a little over two years old and should still be adding millions of U.S. subscribers. That obviously isn’t happening, which is why Disney CEO Bob Iger is panicking with massive layoffs, consolidations, and cost-cutting.

    We all know what’s happening here… The grooming chickens are coming home to roost. No decent parent feels safe leaving their child alone with Disney+, which has become a streaming service full of racism, adult sexuality, and pro-mutilation propaganda.

    Also affecting the bottom line is Disney’s latest flops. Two animated features that would have normally grossed a billion dollars earned less than a quarter of that. Lightyear and Strange World bombed at the box office due to Disney’s obscene decision to include homosexual plots. These are features aimed at children and no parent wants to exit a theater forced to discuss alternate sexual lifestyles with their five-year-old

    Disney has become the entertainment equivalent of a creepy guy in a park holding a lollipop and wearing nothing but a raincoat. Disney has become a child predator and now it’s affecting its bottom line.

    Good.

    I wouldn’t let Disney near my kids, and the only way this evil stops is through market pressure. If I were king, any parent who subscribed to Disney+ would receive a visit from social services. You are supposed to protect your child’s innocence, not betray it with Disney’s woke porn.

    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/02/09/nolte-woke-disney-loses-2-4-million-subscribers/

    1. It’s all a bit out of proportion. Yes, Disney is pushing a very Left wing agenda and that includes promoting gay relationships, but it is up to the parent to manage what the child sees. Disney are paying for their woke agenda with a collapsing share price, falling revenues and films losing money. This is all good stuff and how the market should react.

      To vilify Disney as some sort of predatory paedophile is silly.

    1. Well….we kind of suspected it but it’s nice to have confirmation.

      When do the hangings, sorry, trials start?

    2. And who knows why the Sunak gang have encouraged Moderna to establish a research plant here? Moderna are toying with the Injection of “experimental” MRNA into animals in the food chain as part of their projects.

      1. What’s worse, the EU authorising bug powder in food stuffs without voting by the 27 members or experimental mRNA injections in the food chain?

      2. “…who knows why the Sunak gang have encouraged Moderna…”

        Could it have something (or nothing) to do with the amount of shares Sunak has in Moderna, and controls through his ‘operating company’?

  36. Hi, all. Just logged back in after making two batches of pastry: flaky for sausage rolls and a sweet soft pastry for date/fig slices. Successful completion of the goodies will, I hope, take place tomorrow afternoon.

    I’d like to offer a big thank you to Rastus and Caroline for putting up my reaching 74 years of age today and an equally big thank you to all the Nottlers for their greetings and best wishes for today.
    May you all enjoy this and many more days in the future.

    1. I was just reading that article. No comments allowed – I wonder why?
      Apparently “a 39-year-old woman, a 16-year-old girl, an 11-year-old girl, a ten-year-old girl and a 43-year-old man were arrested over the attack.” Could it be that the ‘victim’ had been persistently bullying the 16 year old, and the incident was the family getting their own back? It doesn’t justify the family taking the law into their own hands, but maybe the school and/or police had been ignoring the situation. I doubt the girl ‘victim’ was blameless – we can but hope she will moderate her behaviour towards others after this incident.
      As for the creature ‘demanding’ the Head teacher’s head – what a bl***y nerve.

      1. They keep pushing their luck to get what they want – power. Bluntly, teachers are not allowed to touch children. One can put their hand into boiling water and there’s nowt the teacher can legally do. Pull it away and the brat can scream assault.

        The parents have got to teach their child to behave. The black community is not good at parenting – having the highest incidence of single mothers/abandoned fathers in the country.

        I imagine the real story is very simple – one kid just got fed up with being picked on and belted the other one. It’s the activist looting mob who wade in seeking a cause.

        1. Rent-a-mob, again. Chances are that every single one of them is living on benefits. Any non British person committing any crime should be automatically arrested, held in secure facilities then deported. No appeals. They can take their free-loading families with them.

        1. Violence, threatening behaviour, breach of the peace – all committed by those adult savages in the clip. Filthy scum.

      2. Reading other Tw@ter comments, it seems to have been Black on Pikey bullying and the Pikey family responded as only Pikey Families can.
        So for once I’d say well done the Pikies!

    2. And from reading the Tw@ter comments on the article, they should have taught her that bullying a Magnus Pyke is never a good idea.

  37. Right, that’s the larger of the dead elms now rigged up for felling, the work for which included dropping a pair 4″ sycamores and a 3″ elm sapling that were in the way.
    However, I still have to get the couple of top branches off the dead elm before I can bring down the main trunk.
    As the S@H is not currently in the house that task and the final felling will wait until he’s here to give a hand so I think it’s a tidying and firewood cutting session for the rest of the afternoon.

    Now relaxing and waiting to the DT to finish making me a mug of tea!
    Very dull & cloudy outside and the temperature hasn’t increased by much as the morning’s progressed, but it is virtually windless so far.

      1. I have a pruning saw which can be secured onto the end of a broom handle. The only problem is that the branches I wanted to cut were in the region of 20′ up.

  38. – Jeremy Clarkson to play Basil in the Fawlty Towers remake?
    What do you think?

    And Jacinda Ardern to play the moose head.

  39. There was skulduggery afoot within my local Morrisons last Friday – claiming to have an abundance of Seville oranges – they weren’t Seville oranges – didn’t look or smell like them and were too big and pale . I shall be perusing the local farm shop to tomorrow looking for these oranges that were supposedly last week.. it’s the season for them. I hope they’re there as I need them for a sauce next week .

    1. Apparently some problems with the harvest. After an unsuccessful search locally, my wife asked friends in the big cities to see if they could find some but it seems there are literally no Seville oranges over here.

    2. In southern Spain you can pick them in the village streets, avoiding areas with traffic fumes. (ask the Mayor)

      1. Honestly, I never would have believed that the Telegraph would sink so low – back in the glory days when it was a real newspaper.

    1. What has Brexit to do with whassisname? We’re still the second biggest economy in Europe, the predominant military power – both despite statist effort.

  40. When Vladimir Putin is expected to launch ‘unstoppable’ nuclear Satan-2 missile. 10 February 2023.

    The dates that Russian President Vladimir Putin is expected to launch an ‘unstoppable’ nuclear Satan-2 missile have been revealed.

    The tyrant is tipped to be readying the missile to shock the West, as he plans to test launch his 208-tonne hypersonic Satan-2 apocalypse missile within days.

    The firing of the explosive, which is capable of carrying nuclear warheads, may coincide with the anniversary of the start of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, which began on February 24, 2022.

    Before you all rush down to the cellar and nail the door shut this is a test and it will not be carrying warheads! More scaremongering!

    https://www.independent.co.uk/world/putin-nuclear-satan2-russia-ukraine-b2279633.html

    1. I wonder if Zelensky is the Greta Thundberg of conflict. He is a puppet doing the will of others. I think Zelensky is being used, more than likely by US, as a puppet to fight a war of attrition against Russia. There are some parallels with WW2 and Germany surrendering because they were exhausted by a war of attrition against a stronger economy that could sustain a longer war. Admittedly Russia played a large role in that war but only as a result of massive economic and material support from US. They now do not have that economic support, they have limited resources so Zelensky is being used as a proxy to engage Russia to the point of exhaustion. He is supported by short sighted self serving western politicians such as Sunak and Johnson. What neither Sunak nor Johnson can see is how gullible they are and how they are mere laptop dogs of Washington and our taxpayers are funding a US war for them.

    1. Saw that. I hope Norway kept out of it, but the politicians kiss Merkin ass a lot, and likely came under a lot of pressure to allow it. It’s a bad move, but we are apparently sending one broken-down panzer as well…
      Anyone with any sense would keep the fcuk out of this argument. It won’t end well, what with the politicians wanting a war. I reckon they should go at it, one-on-one, in a holmgang ( where two men were put on a skerry, with left wrists tied to the opponents left, and given knives to fight it out with).

      1. Apparently Seymour Hersh counts as a reliable source, due to his long career of investigative journalism (I don’t know a lot about him).
        His article makes more sense than the Americans’ denials 🙁

        1. Hersh first gained recognition in 1969 for exposing the My Lai Massacre and its cover-up during the Vietnam War, for which he received the 1970 Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting. During the 1970s, Hersh covered the Watergate scandal for The New York Times and revealed the clandestine bombing of Cambodia. In 2004, he reported on the U.S. military’s mistreatment of detainees at Abu Ghraib prison. He has also won two National Magazine Awards and five George Polk Awards. In 2004, he received the George Orwell Award.

          Hersh has accused the Obama administration of lying about the events surrounding the death of Osama bin Laden, and disputed the claim that the Assad regime used chemical weapons on civilians in the Syrian Civil War.. WIKIPEDIA

          My hero! What a journalist should be!

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh

      2. … and if Vlad wants to throw his weight about and toss a nuclear bomb at the interfering West, he could well toss it at Norway as the retaliation would be minimal, likely zero, and TBH I don’t see the Merkins (who run NATO) square up to a big player such as Russia, where open conflict would result in real harm (if you fight a bear, you’re going to get clawed and bitten a lot), so it would go over in a radiation cloud followed by tightened sanctions.
        Meanwhile, back in Oslo…

    1. Any independent ICE mechanic would warn you to never buy car parts on Ebay if Birmingham is given as the location.

    1. But they have LOTS of distractions so that we won’t blame them when they can’t pay the debt and we all get poorer (covid, war etc).

      Of course, part of the debt was run up giving everyone free stuff. But the few at the top got a lot more free stuff than anyone else.

  41. A blonde came in last in the breast stroke swimming competition, she complained that the other women were using their arms

          1. As a student I lived in West Didsbury, Manchester. It was diverse and quite a vibrant community. Now, however it has a mosque the size of a small planet! This has been allowed to happen by sitting back and doing nowt!

          2. The Planning Department responsible for West Didsbury certainly didn’t sit back and do nothing. They must have passed the application!

  42. INTERESTING OBSERVATION ……..
    1. The sport of choice for the urban poor is SOCCER.
    2. The sport of choice for maintenance level employees is BASKETBALL.
    3. The sport of choice for front-line workers is RUGBY.
    4. The sport of choice for supervisors is CRICKET.
    5 The sport of choice for middle management is TENNIS. And….
    6 The sport of choice for corporate executives and officers is GOLF.
    THE AMAZING CONCLUSION:
    The higher you go in the corporate structure, the smaller your balls become.
    There must be a load of MPs in Parliament playing….. Marbles !!!!

    1. True story.
      When I use to play regular golf there were a lot of people playing and were way below the required skill level. But of course they all had more to say and were usually more important than the better players.
      One Sunday morning in the draw for the 4 ball I was paired with a BT engineer, we were playing a senior banker and his playing partner, something in insurance .
      Martin and I were well in the lead and approaching the15th tee and it started to rain, not a lot but I noticed the banker had two umbrellas on his trolley. I had left my in the car. Can I borrow one of your umbrellas Bill I asked politely. Oh aright then said Mr grumpy, he reluctantly handed it over. It was already close to to game over for me and my playing partner we had wiped the floor with them. As we were approaching our second shots at 18 he said ….i’ll take that back now. I obliged although it was still raining. But like the old saying goes, a banker will give you an umbrella when the sun is shining and always take it back when its raining. They don’t like it up ’em.

  43. Afternoon All

    How utterly predictable

    “The last of those pledges induced a particularly vigorous round of

    derision from erstwhile Tory voters who have been let down as regards

    illegal immigration too many times already. They simply did not believe

    Sunak to be serious.

    So for Home Secretary Suella Braverman to start throwing in caveats

    just a month or so down the line will be a cause of great exasperation

    in Downing Street. Braverman has just declined to confirm that the PM’s

    pledge means the boats will be stopped in their entirety. Instead she

    told ITV News she is aiming for a ‘dramatic reduction in the numbers

    arriving’.

    She has also refused to set any deadline for our arrival at this happy juncture.”

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/suella-braverman-will-regret-rowing-back-on-the-stop-the-boats-pledge/
    The CONservative party,’nuff said

        1. The CONservatives, Lass, who I’m referring to.

          Heaven help us at the next GE, all we can do is vote NOTA.

          1. My ambit was slightly wider, but included the current tory party bigwigs (and most of the small wigs).

    1. I seem to recall a couple of other conservatives (PM’s) promising to reduce the number of invaders. That went well.

      1. Can’t do anything conservative or remotely beneficial to this country, certainly. They can do lots of harm.

    1. Should be had for a racist hate crime – intimidation.

      The Pikeys will be out to smash any BLM they see.

        1. I got the impression that pikies are travellers who live in caravans because they don’t like to settle down to domestic bliss … and pay rates, licences and taxes.

    2. Ah diddums for the pikeys. Perhaps they should sod off and not trespass on private property then.

    1. You are right about the first one, it was the gross over inflation that distracted me – those lips would be much prettier without the artificial filling.

    2. The spanish rhyming proverb is

      “Tiran más dos tetas que dos carretas”.

      Two tetas will pull more than two ox-carts.

    1. From Wiki

      Purple has been the colour of the international Pirate Party movement since the founding of the Swedish Pirate Party in 2006.

      I’ve never seen a pirate sitting on a fence

    2. From Wiki

      Purple has been the colour of the international Pirate Party movement since the founding of the Swedish Pirate Party in 2006.

      I’ve never seen a pirate sitting on a fence

    3. The problem is there is some oik who would sit on it, and some stupid judge who would give him massive amounts of compensation – from the public purse. The sign prevents the compo payout.

      Frankly, anyone who sits on the fence for that purpose for should hammered through the spikes.

  44. “Subject to rigorous standards of privacy and data protection – neither Government nor the Bank would have access to personal data and holders would have the same level of privacy as a bank account
    Ho ho ho!🤣
    They must really think we’re dumb! Oh yes! They do!

    1. The digital currency? Ah yes. The state will never let it go. Eventually they’ll forcibly attach it to what we buy, preventing us buying certain products once we exceed their permitted allowance.

      The state will never, ever leave us alone. Everything it does is a desperate attempt at control.

    1. and they attribute the success of Dubai specifically to their adoption of English common law principles.
      Interesting, that.

      1. Singapore is very strict and has groups of armed officers patrolling the streets.
        But it is a great place to visit. Always around 30 c.

      2. As I’ve said before Dubai is the exact opposite to the U.K. when it comes to work. Anybody going there has to have a job and if it comes to an end you have to leave the country. Here HMG is happy to receive unknown, unidentified illegal immigrants from any old country knowing they’re not coming here to work. What kind of incentive is there for the indigenous population to work harder or improve their skills when all the government does is tax even more.

    2. We can probably send a few thousand (new arrival) spare white slaves to Rwanda if they like.
      Mean while, One has to wonder that African countries have done with all the Foreign aide they have readily been sucking up for decades.
      The difference between Dubai and almost all African countries is Oil.
      There are not many African towns and cities that are free of hundreds of tons of rubbish on their streets. Too lazy to clean up.
      A tidy environment suggests a tidy mind. And the opposite of course.

    3. Africa is poor because they keep looking to us, and we keep helping them, so they never develop the engineers, scientists and infrastructure necessary to progress.

      We’ve got to let them be.

  45. Discouraging’ UK tax rate swayed AstraZeneca to build $400M plant in Ireland, CEO says. AstraZeneca’s chief executive, Paul Soriot, told reporters the company’s decision to build a $400 million API plant in Ireland versus the U.K. was based on “discouraging” tax rates.

    By raising corporation tax from 19% to 25% the chancellor will not only damage and bankrupt existing businesses in the UK but he will stop new ones coming to Britain. How good at sums do you have to be to realise that 19% of millions of dollars is considerably more than 25% of nothing? Mr Hunt needs to go back to primary school.

        1. Yes, but the Republic of Ireland is in the EU and yet it is allowed to have a corporation tax rate of 12.5%. Northern Ireland will have a rate of corporation tax which is double this in a few weeks time.

          Only a very evil person hellbent on the total destruction of the UK would deliberately throw away its competitive edge!

          1. …and Hunt the …, inspired by Risky Sunburnt and the WEF, will continue to take us down the path of ruination.

  46. To those of you amateur sleuths who were speculating on the Mysterious Disappearance of Nicola Bulley the other day, Channel Five has a programme on her at 9 o’clock tonight. An odd idea since she may very well turn up tomorrow without a scratch. I’ve put it on record!

    1. The police seem to be obsessed with the idea that she fell in the river and are now searching the sea. Has anyone searched that abandoned house or asked questions on that caravan site? All seems very odd to me.

        1. There are two odd things to me.

          First, the original story was that she was seen and then disappeared and withing 10 minutes the hue and cry began. Now it appears that there was a gap of two HOURS between the last sighting and the alarm being raised.

          Secondly – and in many ways the more depressing to an old fogey – the area is criss-crossed with CCTV cameras. Why, FFS? Is there nowhere left where one can go and not be spied on? Makes Stasiland seem quite friendly.

          1. The “10 minute” original story was very peculiar because the police are not interested in someone who’s been missing that short a time. It’s all very disturbing.

      1. The house is NOT abandoned. But there might be a septic tank.

        I wonder if NB did a runner because of possible or potential domestic abuse; peculiar that a financial adviser (Nicola) was not married to the father of her two children. And his job description is somewhat vague, an ‘engineer’.

        Cold water could have stunned her, but in a river three feet deep with not much current, a body would not have disappeared within two hours.
        So she either fled an unhappy relationship, or has been abducted.

        Now check every s* offender (with a driving license) within a radius of 100 miles, and any violent offender who was recently released on parole.

        Also, close the roads and search every single property in the locality. Tragically, if there is a body, a dog should pick up the scent.
        IMHO her partner should not be left alone with the two daughters, even if the CCTV looked convincing.

      2. She disappeared from view walking past the Wyreside Caravan Park.

        The Police are searching the river because that is where her telephone and dog were found.

        It would be interesting to discover why the Police have not asked anyone on the caravan park whether they

        saw or heard anything.

        Or perhaps they have searched the caravan park, and for some reason are keeping that quiet.

      3. I think the police have a good idea as to what has happened which is why they want the distraction of look over here, in the river, and oooh, even further away in the sea. The further away from the site of action the better. They were desperate to wrap it up a few days ago with ‘she’s fallen in the water’. I don’t think any of the cctv equipment was ‘not working’ – it’s the classic excuse trotted out again and again, it’s too much of a co-incidence. Something to do with ‘community relations’, perhaps? I postulated this in the DM btl comments – it wasn’t printed, which is what usually happens when one is nearing the target.

          1. I’m always right, and even when I’m wrong, I am still right. Poppiesdad will confirm….😉

    2. The fact that her dog and her untouched mobile phone were found on a bench suggests — to my way of thinking — that she placed them there purposely, since she didn’t want to risk losing them if she went to the side of the riverbank (for whatever reason). This also suggests to me that she may have somehow fallen into the river, got into immediate difficulties, and succumbed. Her submerged waterlogged body being carried away by the tidal ebb.

      As I say, this is pure supposition on my part, but the unattended (and apparently unmolested) mobile phone suggests this sequence of events to me.

      1. Possibly, it could have been planted as a distraction while she buggered off to meet a lover.

        Not known to either her partner nor the police.

        Who knows. It’s all speculation, on our part and that of plod.

  47. 370932+up ticks,

    Wattayouthink,

    Gerard Batten
    @gjb2021
    ·
    5h
    Its Friday & time for some beautiful music from the World’s greatest composer.

    Hope you enjoy it, & tell me what you think?

    Also, who knows what great film this was used in to demonstrate beauty in an ugly world?

    The Marriage of Figaro – ‘Sull’aria’ (Mozart; Ellie Dehn, Sophie Bevan; The Royal Opera)

    Revolution is in the air in David McVicar’s production of Mozart’s glorious comic opera. Ellie Dehn (Countess Almaviva) and Sophie Bevan (Susanna) perform th…

    https://gettr.com/post/p27wdti019e

      1. I think you’re right. I have only read 3 Stephen King books….Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption, Misery and The Green Mile. The movies of all 3 were pretty good too.

          1. I will edit but I am so tired and other stuff, it’s no wonder I am making stupid errors.

          2. Sorry, pet. I shouldn’t of (sic) posted…

            Have (another) glass of pinot noir and stick pins in my effigy….

            (Hangs head in shame…)

          3. Not you Bill- just life as it is right now. And I drink Pinot Grigio although I like the Noir too.

  48. A Dreary Double Bogey Five, today.

    Wordle 601 5/6
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    1. Yep, me too. Similar pattern.

      Wordle 601 5/6

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  49. Ridiculous. For the most part they are a bunch of post 1958 (i.e. Life Peers) parvenus and arrivistes who ought to be thrown in the Thames. A couple of ‘Hereditaries’ have told me they will do all they can to avoid the occasion – “swarming with foreigners and media types. It’ll probably be on the evening news.”

    Peers in uproar as only a minority will be invited to King Charles’s Coronation

    Sources say they are expecting dissent in the ranks as many Lords will be left disappointed

    By Victoria Ward, ROYAL EDITOR and Tony Diver, WHITEHALL CORRESPONDENT
    10 February 2023 • 9:33am

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/royal-family/2023/02/10/TELEMMGLPICT000004198629_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqTSNc2HkL-gGla3QrgLWAQrHWBIsPKMnTYKvG0hhrRTU.jpeg?imwidth=680
    Lords attending Queen Elizabeth’s Coronation in 1953

    Note that they still haven’t removed the scaffolding {:^))

    Before the 1953 coronation ‘Uncle Bernie’ (16th Duke of Norfolk) was approached in his capacity as Earl Marshal and Chief Party Planner by an Earl who had recently been divorced and therefore thought it wouldn’t be appropriate for him to attend the ceremony in Westminster Abbey. Uncle Bernie’s response was immediate and to the point, “Good God man, of course you must come. It’s a Coronation, not Royal Ascot y’know.”

    https://media.gettyimages.com/id/137729549/photo/the-queen-mother-bernard-fitzalan-howard-16th-duke-of-norfolk-and-queen-elizabeth-ii-in-the.jpg?s=612×612&w=gi&k=20&c=JQUVVGWe9aomG1b5JIFhFuq27bmLPmW4NLOJQOW2Stc=
    In them days no divorcés or divorcées were allowed in the Royal Enclosure at Ascot

    1. Time to reform the Lords to be hereditaries ONLY, as they are the ones who have the UK’s long-term future to consider (a vested interest yes) but the rest may have their own chamber in York or the Orkneys or Shetlands but, being mainly remainers, their rantings are as shingle on the tides on the shores,

    2. Dissent in the ranks? What are they going to do? Return their peerages? Burn their robes? Refuse to fall asleep in the chamber?

      My breath is bated!

      1. No chance, at £300 per day for just signing on and then continuing their lascivious life-styles, who’d complain..

        Get in there, fill yer boots, why not..

        Who pays attention to the plebs complaining?

  50. Phew!
    S@H came back so we attempted to get the top branches of the big dead elm lopped off before felling it, but couldn’t get the teeth on the saw chain to bite into the wood, the branches were at too much of an awkward angle.
    So we carried on and successfully dropped the bloody thing anyway.
    I’m now enquiring amongst woodworking groups to see if anyone can make use of a 10″ dia by 10 or 12′ piece of well seasoned elm!

    1. We are supposed to burn diseased elm. You could always buy a planking accessory for your chainsaw! As seen on the ‘Tube.

      1. I checked their website to make sure i would get away with my shirt. No one wants to look like a tablecloth !

      1. Just the tiles. Over all the decor was depressing. All gray and black. Had to go to Cafe Rouge after for a pick me up. French bistro and no Cognac ! Had to settle for a large Armagnac.

        1. After blanc and rouge I expect it was all a bit of a bleu…

          (A Franch play on ze words – maybe too advanced for you…!!)

        1. My brother and I once went scrumping in the extensive kitchen gardens at Le Manoir aux Quat’Saisons. We were astounded that no one was there to challenge us.

          1. Your big mistake was revealing your scrumping on this site, Grizzly. Expect a visit from Swedish Plod at 3 am. Lol.

  51. Are you free Bobs, yes I’m 3

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  52. That’s me done for. A very quiet day – saving my pore back for tomorrow when I’ll be mainly stacking logs. For the last time this year.

    Have as jolly an evening as you can manage.

    A demain – briefly.

  53. Well spelled, Telegaffe:
    Husband and wife portraits by Gainsborough seprated for 114 years reunited for Valentines Day
    Paintings of landowner John Bragge and his wife Elizabeth remained together for 140 years before they were sold to separate buyers

          1. That’s NOT an answer to the question, Philip. no matter how badly spelled.

            French is my 3rd language.

          2. Serious….ish…is it because of our age and experiences or is it because this generation are complete and utter numb nuts?

          3. I think there are a lot of good and sensible young people; my son and daughter in law and my stepson and his wife are another pair. We have also met some at the pub.
            There seems to be a lot of pressure on younger people these days to conform to some sort of agenda- vegan, climate and so on and so on.
            My opinion is that too many children these days are not given a real chance and, as a former teacher myself, I don’t see that the pupils get a decent all round education. Everything seems to have to be revised, changed and put into terms that fits in with the current “woke” BS.
            A clear indication of this was when I saw that a Jane Austen book had been given a trigger warning. WTF?
            Much as I miss it, I could not return to teaching or be a librarian; I am too old and opinionated to fit in now and I would not cooperate with any stupid nonsense.

          4. What makes me suspicious is that this has happened in education in the Western world at the same time. Normally it takes 10 years from the worst case in America to reach the UK. Just as with covid and lockdowns it seemed it was already planned.

          5. Re education in US- you can’t lump all states in the same category. CT is way ahead of GA and SC is the worst ranked in the country; or it was. I have been away for some years now.
            Had we landed in GA first I would have home schooled my son or sent him to private school.

          6. Thank God for that. I thought it was tomorrow already. And tomorrow never dies. Lucky it’s my Birthday !

          7. It seems to me, Phizzee, that you can be quite nasty to NoTTLers when you feel like it. Not a quality I admire.

          8. I don’t understand why you think i am nasty. Give me an example in context or take your frock off.

          9. Well, Phizzee, Tom didn’t follow your Telegaffe post so he repeatedly asked for clarification. Instead of helping him (which I was able to do in a couple of seconds once I saw his post) you continually posted evasive comments in order to frustrate him, which is very nasty behaviour. Had I adopted your behaviour, then I might have posted a reply along the lines of “What’s a frock to do with it?” and – had you continued to ask for an example and explanation to my comment that I thought your behaviour to be nasty – I might have discussed frocks and any other sort of evasive topics instead of answering your request to “Give me an example in context”. Understood now?

          10. In that case you can wish me a happy birthday tomorrow. Though i might be out to lunch for a few days.

          11. Yes, but we are ahead of you in Canada. Tipple time started a few hours ago.
            Has it warmed up over there- said that CT has gone from record cold to expected record high temps soon.

    1. With Neil Oliver. I take their point. We won’t win the battle by fighting amongst ourselves.

  54. Her Imperial Highness, ruler of my heart and the warqueen, has taken her glorious body ‘out on the town’ in a sheer dress and not a lot else.

      1. I look quite stunning myself tonight- thick fuzzy socks, jeans and a thick woolly pink sweater. That’ll make the guys swoon;-)))

        1. After my bath I’ve been lounging in slippers, a fleecy lined shirt and a towel wrapped round my waist.

          1. I only said so because of all his posts about felling trees and chopping wood would get you persons of the female persuasion hot under the liberty bodices.

            Those buttons can take an eye out !

    1. My God, Wibbles, I just wish I could continue to believe that of my previous ‘ Best Beloved’

      It lieves me so depressed.

  55. An e-mail to my once, Best Beloved:

    to Judith

    Given the way that the world is going these days, I’m not sure that I want to see what the outcome may be. CDBC and the control that our government ‘ Servants’ wish to impel upon us. I don’t think I can live with that so…

    Shortly, I intend to stop taking warfarin, wait until a massive blood-clot stops my heart and wait for the undertaker. no other intervention required.

    I’m sending this to you just to fortify you, notwithstanding your snide remarks about not taking me back, and to let you know that you are the only woman I ever cared for, I am sad we ended it this way and hope we may meet again in another life.

    Good-bye, my Judy and cruel world.

    Txx

    1. Tom please don’t. It doesn’t accomplish anything. You have to find joy in what life remains to you. Please understand that Nottlers give a damn. And want you to be part of us.

      1. I just wish that you could all understand the loneliness and isolation I feel, being exiled here in the Scottish borders, and being beset with the daily horrors visited upon us, without the the warmth, comfort and love of a faithful woman beside you,

        I am absolutely bereft and know not where to turn, except to end it all.

      1. Because I want those NoTTLers who saved me once before and why I’m considering this action. to understand why I’ve reached the end of my tether.

    2. I second Phizzee’s comment, Tom. We all need you, and each other in these perilous times, the loss of any one of us diminishes us and, from a purely selfish point of view, makes our fight harder. As Phizzee says, you have to find the joy and it is out there in the little things. You don’t need pots of money, in fact it gets in the way of seeing the good things. I never realised until recently but my happiest times have been walking with Poppie through our little local wood taking photographs of the autumn colours. Just keep on keeping on, putting one foot in front of the other, one hour, one day at a time.

      1. Even though i enjoy my life i can emphasise with Tom. With this constant rain of bad news it makes it difficult to enjoy the simple pleasures in life. Your post tells us of the joy in ordinary things which make us happy.

      2. I do understand, Mum and I shall be very sad to leave you, and you all but , I see nothing on the horizon worth contemplating, hence my decision(s).

        It may take days and I shall continue contributing but, until that fateful day I can only , say and do, KBO.

        1. That would be such a waste and after all that you’ve done to collect them too. Do you have to have INT tests? Alf used to be on warfarin but asked to transfer to rivaroxoban now so doesn’t have to be jabbed any more.

    3. Look here Tom, I might be joining in this fray later than the others but I agree with them, stay around and give us the benefit of your wisdom and humor.

      You wouldn’t want to leave us alone with Phizzee humor would you?

  56. Evening, all. Fine words on the Ukraine will come back to bite us on the bum if we DO send jets to the country. Sorry I’ve been AWOL the last couple of days; I’ve had problems with Oscar following his vet’s visits and today, for a break, I went racing.

      1. I had a good day, thanks. Four winners out of seven races 🙂 Oscar is better today, thankfully. I thought it was curtains yesterday, but it was probably the effects of the sedation. He was even more aggressive than usual and this time he meant it – I have the wounds on my thumb and forefinger to show for it – and all was trying to do was give him a biscuit! He has been sweetness and light today, except when I have to put the drops in his eyes.

      1. Four winners out of seven races! I really thought I might have to take Oscar on a one-way trip to the vet yesterday. I think it was the result of his sedation (and probably the pain in his eyes). He was very aggressive (he took a chunk out of my thumb and finger when I offered him a biscuit!) and making a lot of noise. So much so that he frightened Kadi, who ran off and hid. Thankfully, he has calmed down today, but I’m having trouble putting the drops in his eyes as required. Perhaps he’ll be with me a bit longer, after all, thank goodness.

    1. I can see into the future

      20(ish) RAF pilots will put in their notice and ‘buy themselves’ out

      Paddington Bear will then employ them to fly his newly arrived ex RAF Jets.

      The RAF will then have lotz of aircraft maintainers following the pilots

      Riski Sunhat is footing the bill

    2. Our politicians are utterly naïve about the politics – and deployment complexities – re ‘sending jets to Ukraine’.

  57. Good night, chums. I had planned to watch EDUCATING RITA tonight, but I can’t really be bothered.

      1. 370932+ up ticks,

        Evening NtN,

        I imagine not a lot will but who has been guilty of setting up “the great RESET” these past three plus decades
        may one ask.

        1. If I understood what you were asking I might reply, but your question seems garbled – as usual.

          Try plain English, Ogga.

  58. Before I retire for the night, here’s a quiz for you – the answers are all sums of money pre-decimal. Work out the total in pounds, shillings and pence:
    1 A stone
    2 A bicycle
    3 A singer
    4 Part of a monkey’s leg
    5 A man’s name
    6 A pet pig
    7 Sun-Moon-Pluto
    8 A leather worker
    9 50% panties
    10 Royal headdress
    11 Hit repeatedly
    12 An unwell sea creature.

    Will post the answers tomorrow. No prizes, it’s just a bit of fun.

    Goodnight, everyone.

        1. I still go for £1 for No 9. ‘Panties’ are ‘knickers’ (plural). 50% (half) of ‘knickers’would be a ‘knicker’ or £1.

  59. Going to sign off now. Totally exhausted and in some pain. My husband is doing OK but it’s swings and roundabouts.
    Got some jobs done today which is good.
    Sleep well Y’all and TGIF.

    1. Happy birthday, Junior.

      Yes we need new blood, be sure you may live up to it and have a happy day and a bright future.

  60. The more I hear and listen about the adverse effects of the Covid jabs, the more I intend to see those pushing this shit, entirely for personal gain, arrested, tried for Crimes Against Humanity, their ill-begotten millions taken from them, their properties, yachts and Praetor or Leer jets requisitioned and the buggers incarcerated forever until they die in a Gulag somewhere, the latter a fate the continue to wish upon us, their people.

    I have this instant read about a multitude of Covid 19 vaccine induced injuries unreported on MSM but to be found in VAERS reports. These obviously include Myocarditis and other well reported injuries. These also include less publicised effects such as facial paralysis, Stephen Johnson Symptoms where your skin falls off, blistering of whole areas of the skin, a record of recipients of the ‘vaccines’ who can no longer walk or eat, genital ulcers (causing physical and psychological trauma and other disorders), strokes in supposedly exempt persons of age including 80 year olds. The list of harms is in fact endless.

    It is past the time to arrest those responsible for the promotion of the ‘clot shots’ to institute international courts and to actively and urgently prosecute everyone responsible for these Crimes Against Humanity.

    1. Totally agree Corri but we all know it’s not going to happen. I would be vastly relieved if HMG at least stopped all further shots. And the scaremongering.

    2. I think the one item you forgot that they must have all the catch up doses of the injections including all the boosters in the time limits they want all else to have. We should start with the most recent knight of the garter (I refuse to capitalise it for him). All the MPs who either voted for them or abstained.

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