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Morning everyone.
Morning GG
Good morning, chums. Enjoy your day.
Morning Geoff,
I’m was always convinced that using shielded copper wires was a more reliable way of achieving high speed data communication.
Since you mentioned your activities with Cat6 I’m looking at the tradeoffs between trying to hide a bunch of cables in the home with the unreliability of wirefree high speed WiFi due to local neighbourhood radio band congestion.
Good Morning Folks
Another cloudy start here
Morning all 🙂😊
Feeling refreshed after our epic walk and 9 hours sleep.
Not long before we leave for our nearly 300 mile journey home.
And let’s be frank, any voter who even thinks of voting Labour must be stupid.
It’s hard enough to vote for any of the major parties.
I won’t be doing that.
Slayders. 😉🤗
Hope you’re not walking the 300 miles home, Eddy!
Have a good journey!
A blast from the past.
https://www.britishpathe.com/asset/189920/
Morning all. Wasn’t Barbara Moore the dog training lady on tv years ago?
A different Barbara Moore.
Woodhouse.
How about this Obs 292 miles door to door. Driving time 5hrs 44mins. Av speed 51 mph 52 mpg.
We had two breaks bathroom and lunch. Add one hour 20 for the total effort.
The M25 towards the end was horrible. But we left it at junction 21a. I’m sitting relaxing now with a beer. Doom Bar. Which gets its name from the sand bar in the Camel estuary. Padstow. Not far from where we were staying. Cheers. 🍻
Excellent! Glad it went well.
Safe journey, Eddy. If you are in an EV might you make it home by the end of the weekend??
Thanks 🤗😊
See my reply to Obs.
German economic slump will be worse than feared, warn economists. 29 September 2023.
Germany’s slump will be deeper than previously feared, economists have warned, as the industrial powerhouse struggles with an energy crisis and disruption to supply chains.
Despite forecasts showing the country will dodge a recession, a group of influential economic institutes told the German Government that stagnation will continue.
The elephant in the room here is of course the destruction of the Nordstream Pipeline by the US and the subsequent loss to Germany of cheap Russian gas. No one ever mentions this, just as no official explanation for it is forthcoming because of the geopolitical fallout. It is an archetypal example of the way the news is tailored for public consumption.
I remember reading an interview with a Russian journalist during the Cold War who was inevitably asked how he managed to live with KGB censorship. His answer was that there wasn’t any. People wrote what they were expected to write and one assumes, though he didn’t say so, that editors also ensured that they did. At first hearing this sounds unlikely to say the least, but if you think about sitting down to write something to order; which is of course what the vast majority of journalists do. Are you going to write what the editor requires or try and save the world. The answer is obvious. You need the job!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/09/28/german-economic-slump-worse-feared-olaf-scholz-inflation/
Headline:Europe’s oldest shoes found in Spanish cave
Thank goodness for that.
Morning all
I thought they might be in the ‘fridge…! ‘Morning all!
They were under the bed
rockall along.Note self: check mystery box in barn.
Oddly enough, I found a pair of nearly new shoes in a box in the shack when I was trying to make room for something. I wondered what had happened to them!
No doubt designed and manufactured by one of those enterprising sub-Saharan types as he/she and others trekked towards Britain on their mission to build Stonehenge.
Voters see through Labour’s spin on its punitive plan for private schools
13 years in opposition and this is all they can come up with
377206+ up ticks,
Morning B3,
Give credit where due bob, they ain’t done bad
in collusion with tory (ino)/ lib/dems coalition, in flooding the nation with felons & wanna be felons, and terminating the nation as was.
With Labour, the anti private schools issue is a tenet of their religion chiselled into a tablet of stone and therefore immutable.
The ‘Ed Stone’ presumably?
‘Morning, Korky.
😀
One of a series, no doubt.
Good morning, Korky. Back from Lincoln are we?
Morning, Elsie. I am indeed. A good trip except for a couple of sat-nav aberrations on the return trip.
I trust I find you well?
Thanks for that, Korky, I have only just scrolled down and read your report on your stay in Lincolnshire. Welcome back! Not only do you find me well, but I have discovered lots of empty jam jars and I know that you are short them. Are you likely to be in at around 5 pm today? If so, I could bring them round to you today. If not, maybe on another day.
Today will be fine, Elsie. Look forward to seeing you.
Good morning, all. Rain in the night. Now grey sky.
Thank GOODNESS the Rotterdam killer isn’t a black but a far-right etc etc.
377206+ up ticks,
Morning Each,
Rishi Sunak to block new 20mph zones
PM expected to curb ability of councils to bring in anti-car policies in wake of victory in Ulez-hit Uxbridge
A case of forward planning in action, first create a monster anti peoples and common sense issue,then park up for deflection use in the future.
The truth is starting to blossom regarding the MRNA vaccine,
a General Election in the near future, lab on par or in the lead
and an electorate as stable as nitroglycerin sweat, really not a future we should continue to pursue via the lab/lib/con coalition party.
Insanity must truly be rife in Uxbridge.
Too little, too late
Forward planning 🙂
Is there any other kind?
377206+ up ticks,
Morning SiaDc,
You are of course correct, I did not include odious FP.
Good Moaning.
“Damn and Blast” say our sons. “The old farts should’ve chosen a bungalow.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12571073/Walking-flights-stairs-mopping-floors-slash-risk-heart-attacks-strokes.html
The comments are on the ball.
A demoralised police force cannot properly tackle crime. 29 September 2023.
The more police powers are circumscribed, the greater the likelihood that the gangs and thugs will fill the vacuum and youngsters in their areas will think that carrying a weapon helps protect them. We need the police to keep order, yet they are constantly being undermined by endless inquiries and accusations of misconduct.
The Police have of course been destroyed by the demands of Diversity and Political Correctness. The requirement to police thought and speech is worthy of any totalitarian state of any time and place.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2023/09/29/demoralised-police-force-cannot-properly-tackle-crime/
Morning, Araminta.
Phew! On a second glance I saw that the author wrote ‘circumscribed’… But the tip of the spear (the police) being affected still stands, so to speak.😎
Good morning, all. Back from my short stay at the Red Lion in the small village of Partney in Lincolnshire. The Lion is a wonderful inn on the edge of the Wolds with top-notch modern facilities and excellent food prepared by chef Jane.
Saw the following on my return yesterday:
The truth is being teased out from these people but what will the government do? The people running these groups/institutions should be removed immediately and the government ordering investigations as to why and how this situation has been allowed to arise – then I woke up!
Daily Sceptic – MHRA Admits Failure to Test Safety of Mass Manufactured Covid Vaccine Batches
This morning I’ve opened The Highwire and found presenter Del Bigtree being interviewed by the Epoch Times on similar lines. I’ve watched 38 minutes and it’s very revealing.
The Highwire – Epoch Times Interview with Del Bigtree
The truth is being teased out from these people but what will the government do?
Morning Korky. The government are complicit in these crimes so probably nothing!
No argument on that score from me, Araminta.
Good morning all.
A bright and dry start with a tad over 6½°C outside. A dry day forecast.
Bright and sunny here after a wet night.
wet start to the day and unlikely to improve
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For once, Matt has gone along with the hysteria.
Given the desire by the MSM and its poodle Ofcom to close down – or at least hobble – GB News, Fox was an absolute twonk to say what he did. It was not funny and did not address the issue, which was a malign feminazie laughing off male suicide.
Well said, Annie (and good moaning). I think Matt has slipped up on this occasion. The silly bint decried the extent of male suicide and Lozza has effectively let her off the hook with his intemperate response – and in the process has caused GBN a great deal of grief. I think he always was a loose cannon and I’m not sorry to see him go.
I feel sorry for Laurence Fox – he is certainly suffering from severe mental problems as a result of being kicked out of his acting career by his fellow thespians because of his political views and the acrimonious break up of his marriage. His crudely executed and vulgar tattoos which deface his arms and hands are surely an indication of these mental problems and a desire to self-harm. It is probably not unlikely that he considered suicide during his darker moments.
I suspect that he drank too much and then saw the foul woman belittling the importance of the fact that so many men commit suicide and he snapped.
This may be an explanation – but it is not a justification of his behaviour which was completely crass.
It will be sad if GB News disappears but their craven surrender over Mark Steyn and now their refusal to support their staff will probably lose them much support and the channel will die – to the great delight of the BBC, the PTB and the MSM.
I think you have probably seen this BTL, Annie, but for those who have not:
Anastasias Revenge
8 HRS AGO
Matt – I am a huge fan of your cartoons, normally… ultra preceptive and cutting through all the waffle – but today’s offering is, in my opinion, in poor taste. A dog attack is no joke. Nor does GB News deserve such misrepresentation.
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Seems we Nottlrs are not alone.
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(Hat-tip Massey Ferguson on Guido Fawkes)
I am off – back later. I hope. G & P slumber after a busy night (took several minutes to clear the porch of “debris”…)
Shurely some mousetake?
Morning M.Thomas and all
‘Morning, Peeps. Forecast here is for sun most of the day, with a generous 19°C.
SIR – Does Sir Keir Starmer really believe that private schools could afford to pay VAT under a Labour government without passing the cost on to parents?
Moreover, if fees do rise, how does he think the state system will cope with all the students whose parents can no longer afford private education?
Graham M E BarberSudbury, Suffolk
I have often wondered how the state sector would cope if we didn’t have parents paying through the nose for a good education…
From Mr Google:
The UK independent sector as a whole educates approximately 620,000 children in over 2,500 schools. The independent sector educates around 5.9% of the total number of school children in the UK and around 6.5% of the total number of school children in Englsnd.
https://www.isc.co.uk/research/#:~:text=The%20UK%20independent%20sector%20as,of%20school%20children%20in%20England.
President Mitterrand tried to abolish private schools in France.
All the teachers in private schools declared that they would give up teaching immediately and this would lead to complete chaos as the state schools just would not be able to cope with the mass influx. Mitterrand had to climb down.
Starmer is mendaciously claiming that he will gain money by imposing VAT on private schools in the UK. The real reason he is doing it is to appeal to the envy, meanness and spite of those whom he hopes will vote Labour. In fact the tax gatherers would lose money because for every school that closes down the state will have to pay for the schooling of all their pupils whose education is now being paid for by their parents.
As a source of revenue VAT on schools is a nonsense. Private school parents are subsidising the state by not using the schooling for which they have paid with their taxes.
I’m afraid that in this day and age common sense and reality take a back seat to ideology and vindictiveness.
The main crux of the matter is that Private School, by & large, provide a better education for their pupils that the vast majority of state schools and, as we saw with the destruction of the Grammar School, that is something Left Wing can not abide.
The majority of our students come from independent schools but about 10% – 15% come from state schools.
To be honest those from state schools are just as bright as the ones from private schools and are always very conscientious and well-motivated.
Labour’s answer to everything is more tax.
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/
Good piece in TCW from Professor Dalgliesh.
All these jabs should be banned. June Raine and her like should swing.
An old friend of mine has had five jabs. Pure coincidence, but he’s a Guardian-reading remainer.
Most of my friends are lining up for no. 7.
Big discussion, amongst the ladies, at the bowls club last week as to where they were going for their next jab. One of them when she was about to one of the jabs said she wouldn’t put her name down to play in any matches because she’s always ill after having them.
Me no understandee.
It’s cognitive dissonance. Most of my friends are bright, educated people but they don’t see this discrepancy. Yesterday, when OH went to the surgery, the doc was playing nurse for the day – he asked OH if he was having the jabs, but didn’t push it when he said no.
The make-up?
I was surprised to find, in a letter received today, that an old school friend had had a booster. Top stream in a grammar school and still falling for it …?
I have put this BTL comment under the article:
My wife and I are both extremely grateful to our doctor who advised us not to have the jabs. We followed her advice.
In February last year we both had Covid – I had just one evening feeling a bit rough and went to bed the following day during which the nurse came round immediately to test us both and the only way my wife knew she had Covid was because of the test as she was not ill.
At the same time several members of our family and friends – all of whom were fully jabbed – had Covid; they were all ill and some of them had to stay in bed for a week.
Our own experience tells us that the Covid jabs are not effective and can be dangerous. But personal experiences are not relevant and we are not a representative sample and we are not medically qualified so we should shut up!
I think we both had it in January 2020. We had a cold – left us with a dry cough for several weeks. I’ve taken VitD3 each winter since then and had nothing.
Good morning Ndovu
Caroline and I take a zinc pill and Vitamin D every day and have had no colds or flu since our very mild Covid a year ago.
Belated morning greetings Rastus!
I’ve started the Vit D again but not yet the rest (K2, vit C) but I probably don’t get enough sunshine as I spend too much time online! I’m quite sure it makes a difference.
I start Cod Liver Oil on 1st. October and stop on 1st. April.
Ah – CLO is a step too far for me! Though in capsule form it’s probably ok – I do remember having it by the spoonful as a child….. and Haliborange……. and mum used to get a little dispenser tin of CLO..
A slightly cranky friend of my mothers said that Garlic Pearls were a panacea so I started taking them for a month or two when I was about 20 years of age.
Unfortunately they gave me Dragon Breath which is a strong turn off and didn’t help me attract pretty young girls – which was one of my priorities in those days – so I stopped taking them.
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A slightly cranky friend of my mothers said that garlic peals were a panacea so I started taking them for a month or two when I was about 20 years of age.
Unfortunately they gave me Dragon Breath which is a strong turn off and didn’t help me attract pretty young girls – which was one of my priorities in those days – so I stopped taking them.
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Even lemon flavour CLO is awful – every belch a greasy taste of a fishmongers waste bin. Ugh.
Moi aussi
Yes, I’m convinced MB had it then.
I think a lot of people did – there was definitely something going round. I think I caught it at a lunchtime drinks party – quite a diverse crowd there as well as neighbours. The sore throat started the following week. I probably spread it around a bit too as I wasn’t ill enough to stay in bed.
#metoo.
MB was watching a thoroughly depressing old documentary last night about the Royal Navy.
It was a year into the convid scam, and they were all still masked up, wearing gloves and exhorted to avoid each other like the plague(!). On a ship: granted, it was an aircraft carrier, but still hardly like roaming the moors.
One junior officer kept a ‘happiness diary’; it was the depth of your average doorstep and he scored his happiness index on an hourly basis.
The captain’s addresses to the ship were chock full of management speak.
I just hope Putin wasn’t watching.
Oh, and as I remarked to MB, I’m sure Nelson didn’t go through all this shiite.
Splice the mainbrace and Roger the cabin-boy.
A few keelhaulings would sort them out.
Sweet potato, fava beans and the rise of posh dog food
More owners are feeding their pets meals good enough to be served in a restaurant. Are they barking, asks Laura Craik
It’s the sort of mouth-watering description that one expects to read on the finest menus of the finest restaurants in the land. “Freshly prepared Aberdeen Angus beef with sweet potato and fava beans, accompanied by a delicious blend of carrot, green bean, cauliflower, tomato, courgette and a hint of olive,” it says, adding that the beef is quality-checked from specially selected farms. “Which means you know your dog is getting the taste and goodness it deserves.” You stop salivating. Dog food? Suddenly, you don’t feel quite so hungry anymore.
The description comes courtesy of Bounce and Bella, one of an increasing number of luxury pet food brands banking on the old adage that man’s best friend is his dog – and that the way to a dog’s heart is through his stomach. A 2kg bag of Bounce and Bella dry dog food costs £20.99, roughly the same price per 100g as you’d pay for a premium human food such as Charlie Bigham’s cottage pie. But it’s a price that’s justified according to co-founder Darren Clunie, who launched Bounce and Bella after both he and one of his dogs started suffering from digestion problems.
“As pet parents, we often can’t work out what the problem is. It’s generally the cheap filler that big businesses use to make profit at the expense of our dogs’ health – usually grains of some sort, which they aren’t physically equipped to digest.”
Like most premium dog foods, Bounce and Bella is devoid of grains, as well as plant, animal or vegetable derivatives, whose usage would lower costs but whose quality is ungoverned, says Clunie.
“The derivatives used in massmarket products are made from any plant or animal,” he explains, “My big tip to any pet owner is to never buy anything that includes derivatives – you can’t know what’s in there.”
A noble aim, though as humans become ever more concerned about what they put in their stomachs, some want to nurture their canine companions with the sort of organic, minimally processed diet that they favour themselves.
And so the “humanisation” of pet food continues apace, with owners scanning labels for organic and “hero” ingredients, such as blueberries, kale and seeds. Post-pandemic, a shift in attitude has seen many owners go above and beyond when it comes to giving their pets the best in life. Browse the more middle-class supermarket websites, and you will find premium “humanised” dog food products such as bone broth, frozen yogurt and ice cream. Last month, US doughnut manufacturer Krispy Kreme launched a six-pack of Doggie Doughnuts (£13.95), complete with dog-friendly sprinkles and icing that mimics the human version.
Whatever your views on doggy doughnuts, there is certainly a market for them. According to an annual survey conducted by UK Pet Food, 12 million UK households currently have a dog, roughly three million of which were acquired since the start of the pandemic. According to parcel carrier Yodel, which delivers popular subscription pet food including Butternut Box, Tails and Zooplus, pet food deliveries have more than doubled since 2018, while in London, they have almost tripled. The UK pet food market was valued at £3.3 billion in 2022, and is estimated to be worth £4.75 billion by 2025.
“I think it’s all got a bit silly,” says Jackie Plumb, 66, whose 10-year-old Labrador, Silk, has been reared on nothing finer than Pedigree Chum, a mass-market dog food first introduced to the UK in 1934. At around £1 for a 400g can of “chunks in gravy with beef ”, it’s one of the cheapest on the market. “But Silk only gets wet food occasionally,” adds Plumb, a retired teacher.
She adds: “Even if I could afford to feed her steak, I don’t think dogs need anything fancy. In the 1960s, my mum used to give our dogs chocolate, which apparently is bad for them, although they lived to a ripe old age. We didn’t know any better then.”
But not everyone is as pragmatic as Plumb. Greg Fraser, owner of Bottled Baking Co, first launched an all-natural baking mix for dogs on April Fool’s Day. It proved so popular that it is now a permanent part of his business, sold in high street stores including John Lewis. “Since the pandemic, people increasingly see their pets as an essential part of their family, taking them on holiday, buying them gifts and even clothing,” Fraser says. He also believes they’re more discerning about their dogs’ food. “They reallylean in to flavours that sound appealing to them, too. Our carrot cake [baking mix] is a good example of this.”
The market for plant-based dog food is also booming. October sees the launch of Hownd Wellness Treats (£2.95 for 100g), a range of plant-based, hypoallergenic snacks, hand-baked in biomass wood-fired ovens.
Sara Pearson, co-founder of Hug, a range of “human-grade” ready meals for dogs, agrees the pandemic was a tipping point. “We saw a significant increase in pet ownership, particularly among people who were often first time ‘pet parents’, some of whom saw their dogs as ‘trainee’ babies or an alternative to babies. In the same way that you wouldn’t feed a baby a permanent diet of tinned food, the new generation of pet owners don’t want solely to give tinned food to their dogs. Historically, pet food choices have been wet (tinned), dry (kibble), ready-cooked or raw, but the growing number of vegan/vegetarian pet owners means they may not be comfortable handling raw meat.” Pearson adds that some pet parents have already placed orders for limited edition Christmas meals for their dogs.
Started in 2020, Hug certainly sounds good enough to eat. Each meal contains a minimum of 60 per cent meat as well as seasonal organic vegetables, and is legume, bone and offal free. But don’t call it a “luxury” brand. “We consider it to be ‘premium’, which is different,” says Pearson. “I don’t think paying £3.31 for 300g (the daily diet of a medium-sized dog) is excessive for the quality of the ingredients. It’s still cheaper than a £3.55 single grande skinny vanilla latte from Starbucks.”
A survey by consumer insight experts QuMind found that despite being hit hard by the cost of living crisis, it is millennials who are mainly driving the trend for luxury dog food, sometimes even spending more on their pets’ wellbeing than their own. Some 63 per cent of those surveyed admitted to spending more on dog grooming than on going to the hairdresser themselves. The survey also found that millennials spent an average of £31 on pet vitamins and supplements.
But for every owner buying luxury dog food, there are others who struggle to afford to keep their pets, and those who would balk at the prices even if they could afford them. According to UK Pet Food’s 2023 survey, only 29 per cent of people considered the cost before getting a pet, while 18 per cent admitted that it was more expensive than they’d expected. In the 3.7 million households that relinquished pets in 2022, 47 per cent of those were dogs.
For most animal lovers, relinquishing a pet is unthinkable. So treasured is brand consultant Hannah Rochell’s schnauzer, Grenson, that she cooks its meals herself. “We got Grenson right after we found out we wouldn’t be able to have children,” says Rochell, who lives on the Isle of Wight. “Cooking for him was some nurturing I needed to get out of my system, but also I like to know the provenance of my own food.”
Rochell has even started baking bite-sized pieces of liver as treats, something she says “is made much easier because I work from home”.
Those who remember buying pallets of unmarked “meat” from the cash and carry may roll their eyes, but we all want the best for our dogs. According to Mintel, the future of pet food is expected to be even more luxurious, and may consist of personalised diets for obese dogs and those with allergies. Never has the phrase “it’s a dog’s life” rung more true.
I have collated masses of data through research which conclusively proves this is crass idiocy on a mammoth scale! Dogs (like humans) are naturally carnivorous and should only eat meat — preferably raw meat. Dogs fed on this unnatural crap have already started to succumb to all the same diseases of civilisation that afflict humans. Mankind was strong, powerful and intelligent before the increasingly obese ancient Egyptians and Mesopotamians commenced agriculture, which triggered the slow decline of the health, strength and intelligence of Homo sapiens sapiens. Vegetarianism and — especially —veganism are mind diseases and the advent of feeding vegetation to pets is a prime symptom of that unassailable fact.
One reason why dogs and humans have traditionally got on so well is because, after a kill, the bits of a carcass most prized by dogs – the offal and the bones – are the bits the humans throw out.
Rather than processing human grade food for dogs, perhaps the slaughterhouses could sell the byproduct as dog food?
Have you tried to buy a marrow bone for your dog recently?
My mum sources them from Morrisons for my dog. I’ve just returned home with 2 for him, when he gets back from Cornwall.
Knick, Knack, Paddywhack
Good advice before the old man comes rolling home!
I can get bones from my butcher for the dogs if I ask.
They’re selling to plonkers who choose their pet’s food according to what they think they would enjoy themselves.
Sadly some of them will make their carnivore pets vegans 🙁
When I find a piece of beef on special offer, usually at Morrisons, I slice it thinly and slow roast it at 100°C. When quite dry I cut it into strips and then chop these into small pieces. Kept in the freezer they last well. They’re great dog treats.
Dolly prefers her steak rare.
What about Harry?
Or does he settle for “some of what she’s having”?
Has Ms. Merkle changed her name to Dolly? Lol.
“Pet parents?”
“personalised diets for obese dogs” = less food (especially carbs) and more exercise.
Gee…
Good morning, Grizzly. I posted a message to you early this morning at the very end of Thursday’s NoTTLe site, just before Geoff posted the link to today’s (Friday). Have a look, see what you think, and let me know.
Mine are fed on working dog meat and kibble. The advantage of working dog is that it is VAT-free. As Charlie, who was fed on it all the time I had him, lived to be almost 17.5 years old, I conclude that there’s nothing wrong with this diet.
SIR – I was deeply saddened to learn of the tragic murder by stabbing of a schoolgirl in my old home town of Croydon, where I spent many happy and secure years as a teenager and young man.
News programmes have been dominated by the two main political parties blaming each other for knife crime in London, when what is needed is a cohesive approach that includes the police and schools.
Little mention is made of parental responsibility, and more needs to be done to support parents to bring up children with a strong moral code to help prevent these senseless deaths.
Ted Shorter
Tonbridge, Kent
I agree with the theory, Mr Shorter, but the ‘strong moral code’ has been severely eroded over the years and bringing it back will be, in my estimation, almost impossible. I’m sure that in some quarters it is regarded as old-fashioned and fuddy-duddy!
I am afraid you are right.
I’ll bet a penny that the yob who killed the girl had a “single mother”.
And an unspecified father
Remember that he had been undergoing “remedial training” for violence for over two years.
Why keep him in this country?
Probably because like the moral vacuum of his mother he was born in this country and we have no choice in the matter. It’s a highly contentious theory in some quarters ,but not mine, that the I.Q. distribution curve of the Sub-Saharan African is 20 points or more lower than than that of an European . Given that the sub-saharan reaches puberty 1 or 2 years before his European equivalent and the sub-saharan African has a greater volume of circulatory testosterone than his European equivalent you then have a perfect set of circumstances to produce an uneducable and violent thug at birth. Basically without an unacceptable solution we’re screwed.
From Science Direct
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289609001275#:~:text=The%20international%20studies%20of%20mathematics,IQ%20in%20sub%2DSaharan%20Africa.
Abstract
Wicherts, Dolan, and van der Maas (2009) contend that the average IQ of sub-Saharan Africans is about 80. A critical evaluation of the studies presented by WDM shows that many of these are based on unrepresentative elite samples. We show that studies of 29 acceptably representative samples on tests other than the Progressive Matrices give a sub-Saharan Africa IQ of 69; studies of the most satisfactory representative samples on the Standard Progressive Matrices give an IQ of 66; studies of 23 acceptably representative samples on the Colored Progressive Matrices give an IQ of 71. The international studies of mathematics, science, and reading give a sub-Saharan African IQ of 66. The four data sets can be averaged to give an IQ of 68 as the best reading of the IQ in sub-Saharan Africa.
True of course and to put it in perspective, Koko the gorilla had an IQ of 90. The cultural Marxist post-modernist and several other “ist” mindset contends that IQ doesn’t exist, just as they contend that objective reality doesn’t exist but as has been noted many times, you can choose to ignore objective reality but you can’t escape the consequences.
I’ve just re-read my comment and in a moment of clarity and horror I realised that could have come from straight from 1930s Germany about another ethnic group.
Ah but that other ethnic group has an average IQ of 105, together with Icelanders and Singaporeans.
the starting point for a nottler I’d warrant
Datz – it’s good to see you taking part here again! I hope it means you are recovering some of your old spirit.
Thank you, despite the best efforts of the NHS I have stubbornly refused to die within the 6 to 8 weeks predicted last December when they discharged me into my care/nursing home and am slowly but surely regaining enough activity in my legs to qualify for Physiotherapy . I’m still viewing my world from a mostly horizontal position with all the indignities that entails but now have hope for better things.
I’m glad to hear it – and taking part here is having an interest in the world beyond the care home, which is good for your mental health.
Better news, thankfully. KBO!
I’ve just re-read my comment and in a moment of clarity and horror I realised that could have come from straight from 1930s Germany about another ethnic group.
My only (intelligent?) comment to this is that are the IQ questions angled towards what we in the West are taught in schools, and the typical black may well not be exposed to in his/her rudimentary education?
Doesn’t explain the gorilla, though.
It could be argued that from a nature/nurture angle, the gorilla was raised as human in an affluent home and had the advantage of intensive care and teaching. She could be tested because she mastered American English sign language and had a vocabulary of 2000 words.
Didn’t know that. Thanks, Sue.
“Remedial training”? What, to improve his techniques?
One wonders?
As have all his siblings.
The state doesn’t want to support parents because it believes, like Rousseau, that the state should raise the children and not the parents.
A pithy BTL:
Anastasias Revenge
9 HRS AGO
Kids dead in London due to poor air – 1
Kids dead in London due to knife crime – 16
Action taken by Sadiq Khan on poor air – citywide and punitive
Action taken by Sadiq Khan on knife crime – blame everyone but himself and the killers
The poor lass who was murdered had a father and mother who were working to send her to private school.
I doubt the same can be said for her murderer.
And they are a Christian family and I suspect they have a far stronger faith in Jesus Christ than our odious Archpillock of Canterbury.
You miss-spelt that, the “a” should be a “u”.
More climate fear mongering:
“The UK is “woefully underprepared” to tackle wildfires as climate change makes them more likely, a new report by the Fire Brigades Union warns.
There were more than 44,000 wildfires last year – an increase of 72% on the previous year, according to government figures out this month.
Union chiefs say the government and the National Fire Chiefs Council have failed to develop a national strategy.
The government said it was ensuring services have the resources needed.
Four ways climate change affects extreme weather
A really simple guide to climate change
The extreme summer weather that scorched and soaked the world
A spokesperson for the NFCC said it “has consistently made clear to government and fire service partners that the impact of climate change will continue to put huge pressure on fire and rescue services in the years ahead”.
Climate change is making the weather conditions needed for wildfires to spread more likely, according to the UN’s climate body, the IPCC. Extreme and long-lasting heat like that seen in the UK in the summer of 2022 draws more and more moisture out of the ground and vegetation.
44,000 is a huge number
Divide that figure by say 100 administrative districts that’s equal to 440 fires per district divide that by 182 days (six months of summer!) that’s less than 2.5 fires per day per …..[or 5 if summer is just 3 months!]
For ‘climate change ‘ read ‘arsonists ‘.
Remove all funding from XR, JSO and all activists of that ilk and bang them up in those super-prisons we were told about, that were being prepared as gulags for dissenters.
Lies all lies.
I don’t know if this has already been posted but make no apologies for doing so again.
The evil experimental injections.
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/
I did earlier on…….. but we all need to read it again. I think we’re all convinced here but our friends, relations and acquaintances need to see it.
Great Paul Weston BTL
“The greatest question of our time must be why on earth is this happening? Mr
Dalgleish lays out the crimes and frauds inherent in everything
Covid-19 related, but no one knows, with 100% certainty, exactly why
this colossal and murderous crime happened and is continuing to happen.
The drug companies were already very rich, so it is not about greed. Even
if it were, Big-Pharma CEO’s could not built the global infrastructure
necessary to carry out global lockdowns, total media censorship and
mandated jabs.
Such an unprecedented action requires
national/international political organisation, but why would individual
leaders of individual countries act as they did? It harms the national
economies and harms the political careers of all involved.
Politicians
alone could not do what they did without the collaboration of doctors,
scientists and journalists. Why did the latter group promote the actions
of the politicians? It simply makes no sense.
I can only think of one thing: The power of the Globalist Elites is near total, but they want absolute
global power and are not in the least bit squeamish about committing
mass murder to achieve it. Elected politicians, doctors, scientists and
journalists are aware of the globalist power and submit before it, if
only to keep their jobs and pay their mortgages.
The entire Covid
fraud was enacted for one reason alone, which was/is to get a particular
genetic coding into the bodies of every man, woman, child and baby on
this planet. This should be manifestly clear by now to all those capable
of critical thought. But it doesn’t answer the question of why they
would want to do this.
My thinking is that in the best case
scenario the mRNA concoctions are just the primer which will be
triggered by future genetic vaccinations to create a REAL global
pandemic leading to global totalitarian rule and perpetual lockdown.
The worst case scenario is long term depopulation and sterility at best, or
a mass depopulation culling following a “booster” jab at worst. How
else to explain the criminal madness? I simply cannot think of anything
else at all except for WEF engineered Trans-humanism…”
What was that Klaus Schwab quote??
Oh yeah ” we have infiltrated all governments at a senior level”
Explains a lot……….
The UK was an outlier at first with the AZ jabs – they caused a lot of blood clotting problems and I was lucky to avoid any ill effects – but the mRNA ones are a different kettle of fish altogether – I’m never going to accept any more jabs for anything if they are all to be made by this process.
Our Very Dear Doctor Françoise
Thank you so much for advising Caroline and me not to have the jabs.
Was she reinstated? She did well to stand up to the bullying.
She has not been reinstated but the process is ongoing and she will be reinstated soon but not given any compensation.
She is a brilliant and much loved doctor but she is coming up to retirement age soon but she will be able to write prescriptions even if she doesn’t return to work.
Thank you for posting. And there is this. They may as well gas us. This is outright terrorism.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2023/09/29/air-vax.aspx
This is a very important and powerful article by Mark Steyn about the looming censorship which is from three days ago, so does not include the latest GB News imbroglio. It is well worth reading as it shows how the force is aligning to crush dissenting opinion and thoughts.
https://www.steynonline.com/13791/the-dames-of-descending-darkness
Yes, I read this yesterday evening. In answer to his first point, yes, if he could but see it, he is indeed on Rumble.
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Yes, but as he mentions- not in La belle France!
This is frustrating. There are many things on Rumble which I would like to see which i cannot because I am in France.
How long before it will be banned in the UK too?
Since GB News gave Mark Steyn an offer he couldn’t accept the channel has shown itself to be completely spineless and Ofcom has shown itself to be a mere vassal of the PTB.
I think it would be bad for GB News to be taken off air because it would encourage the jackals to try and cancel other things that go against their dogmas.
Richard, you might benefit from Nord VPN which many YT channels offer an introductory subscription rate to in their programmes from time to time.
GBN has to tread a very fine line or they would have been shut down long ago.
Is Ofcom trying to compete with the BBC to see if it can be even more biased against anything right of centre?
Yes
Canada, whatever happened?
The Trudeau/Nasti situation continues to rumble on.
In the EU:
https://twitter.com/StaceyKauder/status/1707388494195142856
X comments:
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He’s a raging leftie.
He will be protected by the MSM.
He is being protected, the $600 million
media support grantbribe doesn’t hurt.Our CBC is more biased than the BBC, they are directly funded by the government and shall we just say that they know who is paying.
The Aesop fable about The Man, the Boy and the Donkey springs to mind.
By trying to please everyone you please nobody.
(In Turdeau’s case, everyone doesn’t include the white working class.)
Hey I come here for a break from the actions of that fool.
Beyond revolution, there is nothing we can do to force Trudeau and his ilk out of office.
There are not even any MPs from the almost coalition partner NDP party questioning numbnuts.
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I thought of Desdemona.
The poor soul sat sighing by a sycamore tree
Sing all a green willow
Her hand on her bosom, her head on her knee
Sing willow, willow, willow, willow!
Sing willow, willow, willow, willow!
My garland shall be;
Sing all a green willow, willow, willow, willow
Sing all a green willow
My garland shall be.
The fresh streams ran by her, and murmer’d her moans
Sing willow, willow, willow
Her salt tears fell from her and soft’ned the stones.
Sing willow, willow, willow, willow!
Sing willow, willow, willow, willow!
My garland shall be;
Sing all a green willow, willow, willow, willow
Sing all a green willow
My garland shall be.
Let nobody blame him, his scorn I approve
Sing willow, willow, willow
He was born to be fair, I to die for his love,
Sing willow, willow, willow, willow!
Sing willow, willow, willow, willow!
My garland shall be;
Sing all a green willow, willow, willow, willow
Sing all a green willow
My garland shall be.
I call’d my love false love but what said he then?
Sing willow, willow, willow
If I court more women, you’ll couch with more men.
Sing willow, willow, willow, willow!
Sing willow, willow, willow, willow!
My garland shall be;
Sing all a green willow, willow, willow, willow
Sing all a green willow
My garland shall be.
She should have sat by a willow tree.
We had a willow in our garden which was about six feet high when we came to live here in 1989.
Willow trees do not live long and even though it became quite a big tree it died 25 years later.
Poor Desdemona couldn’t have been much more than that.
It may well grow again from the stump. It will never look the same but it could extend its life, as pollarded trees live longer than those that have not been.
It’s been a bit more than pollarded! It may grow again as a bush.
You could train it back into some sort of tree.They could then grow a new tree from a cutting or similar.
I didn’t know that pollarding can extend the life of trees. Some pollarding is very severe and disfigures the tree but a more gentle intervention can still leave the tree with a pleasing shape.
Both coppising and pollarding increase tree life see third para.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollarding
It may well grow again from the stump. It will never look the same but it could extend its life, as pollarded trees live longer than those that have not been.
Medley
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Good ones! Especially the van.
The Winston Churchill quote about Muslims and minority rights didn’t ring true. It just doesn’t sound like the language of a man born in Victorian Britain who died in 1965. Fact checkers seem to agree with me. Churchill experts can find no evidence of him ever saying or writing it.
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/06/the-churchill-quotation-that-wasnt/
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/dec/20/blog-posting/meme-incorrectly-attributes-winston-churchill-quot/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/winston-churchill-on-muslims-and-minority-rights/
Probably attributed to him on the basis of what he did write.
This is how an articulate Victorian male educated at a public school would write:
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die: but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”
That’s the kind of grandiloquent language I’d expect of the man.
He may not have said those words but he did write quite a diatribe against Muslims.
He may not have said those words but he did write quite a diatribe against Muslims.
It’s a kinda magic………..
https://twitter.com/Rossmac212/status/1707351425007702035?s=20
At least it didn’t go tits up.
Yes, look at the tits and don’t notice that he drops the can. How amazing!
Here’s the can dropping!
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Old-fashioned diversion.
Morning All! Posting this because it is interesting. I have been aware of this for a long time, but then I have an interest in China and its genocidal regime. Hope that you also find this informative.
Joe Rogan On Why China Can Not Invade Taiwan!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKodrIcxqzY
And, a question. I haven’t seen Ann posting. Is she OK?
We haven’t seen anything of Ann for several weeks – we are worried about her.
Thank you Ndovu.
If your tracking the posts Ann please indicate. We are concerned and hope that you are getting along. Not going to pretend that you are in a great situation but the important thing is you have support here from all of us. So if you can, just say you are here.
Rose sent her our best wishes and an ecard a couple of weeks ago but got no response. Some of us have her email address but I think she may be unable to reply at present. She may be back in hospital.
I’ve just sent her an email expressing our concern about her absence. It’s possible she has become separated from her devices or is unable to charge them. If, however, she sees the email, I’ve asked that she replies or posts here to give some indication, no matter how short, of her present circumstances. To be honest, I’m becoming fearful of what her prolonged silence might mean.
Me too.
Quite. When you become really ill you have a tendency to close in on yourself. The antidote is other people, not preoccupation with your own tragedy. This I have understood. Your self image is false and you must give it up in all humbleness in understanding your life is other people. I am not being mystical I am being outright practical. As I progress in my illness I’m really understanding that what we have to give up is our expectations our false facade of ourselves. It is how you step out of yourself and your misery. As a very wise friend said to me, paralyzed and in pain: “Give up, give in.”
We haven’t seen Tom lately as well. No early morning jokes to start the day.
I tried ringing Tom last night having also noticed his absence since early Tuesday. Went to voicemail. I’ll try again but if nothing heard, I’ll ring the place he stays in.
Back. The MR’s X-ray appointment was at 10 am. We left at 9 (in case of traffic problems). Arrived 9.35. She went in and was back in ten minutes. We were on our way home before the appointed time!.
I shall bang a saucepan for the NHS….
Don’t get too carried away!
It’s lovely to be seen before early but, just as easily, you can turn up early on another occasion and still have to wait until well after the appointed time. It’s just pot luck whether it’s a good or bad day.
Europe’s oldest shoes found in Spanish cave. 29 September 2023.
Scientists have identified what they believe are the oldest shoes ever found in Europe – a pair of intricately-woven sandals made of grass that dates back more than 6,000 years.
The shoes are among dozens of items that were discovered in the 19th century in a cave system in southern Spain, along with stone tools and ancient boar teeth.
Hush Puppies one assumes.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/09/28/europes-oldest-shoes-found-spanish-cave/
Just do it. Probably Nike’s – the God, not the company.
I didn’t realise that the ardent lover (and pensioner) of the EU, dear old Ken, was that old!
I’m a little puzzled. Although first discovered in the 19th century, have scientists only now realised just how old the shoes are?
It took them that long to work out how to weave (ahem) them into the narrative of global warming 🙂
Todays snippet from the joke that Canada has become.
After passing of India during the G20 meeting and his recent accusations of Indian involvement in a murder in BC, idiot Trudeau came up with:
“India is a growing economic power and important geopolitical player. And as we presented with our Indo-Pacific strategy, just last year, we’re very serious about building closer ties with India,”
Good politician speak. Utter word salad, saying absolutely nothing.
OT – fun and games on Wednesday evening. We decided to have an early night. The MR was suffering from her bad cold and I wasn’t too bright, either.
At ten to eight we were just clearing up ready to make a cup of tea and have an early bath when Gus came in to the kitchen with a live mouse in his mouth. We tried to get him to go out again but he declined. Then dropped the bloody mouse which ran all round the kitchen. Gus in pursuit. Pickles turned up to watch but not help.
Mouse found a way into a cupboard under the sink (one where we keep all those large, heavy kitchen utensils one rarely uses.) On all fours and with torch, started to clear said cupboard – took ten minutes. Spotted mouse. Shoved Gus into cupboard. Mouse reappeared through the hole and ran round kitchen – got Gus out and he eventually caught it. And we got him out of the house. By now – 8.30. Cupboard filthy – so deed deep clean. When dry, replaced everything. Finally hit the wooden hill at 9.20…..
One can go OFF cats…!!
What a cataclysm!
Almost but not quiet catatonic!
Sshhhh!
Quite!
When we saw the state of the utensils – it was CATastrophic.
So you whisked into action?
Couldn’t resist…..
Nor should you have!
And certainly not for catamites.
Did the mouse leave a trail? They can’t help being incontinent and they can flatten themselves to get through tiny cracks but the mess they leave is dreadful! Gus brought it in live for the joy of the chase?
Just to wind us up, I suspect…
Steyn,Fox,Wootton and now it appears Calvin Robinson all gone from GB news
https://twitter.com/calvinrobinson/status/1707708188621951418?t=ZYIX05Vzvk7lh-d1O-f1jA&s=19
Cynical Rik muses the owners of GB News are trying to buy the DT aren’t they??
Heaven forfend the PTB might have put a few conditions on the purchase……….
Edit
Aha this may be the reason,defending Wooton
https://twitter.com/calvinrobinson/status/1707663197853880449?s=20
Depressing that this can now go on in plain sight! What a corrupt and shameful bunch! Free speech, eh – only if it suits ‘their’ agenda!
New Sci Fi film out. The Creator.
Yes, I plan to watch it on Monday next.
Let me know what you think, please.
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Suck it and see?
I like the ones you can suck.
For first-timers, I recommend Golden Virginia.
Golden Virginia is not the pipe tobacco I preferred.
I used to smoke Gold Block and Balkan Sobranie Original.
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That reminds me a little of small pots of anchovy paste.
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I used to buy that for my godfather at Christmas!
“small EXPENSIVE pots of anchovy paste”
Goes a long way though.
We just buy jars of anchovies and put them on toast with runny butter.
We also make a tinned tuna mayonnaise which we garnish with anchovies.
How do you tin it? {:¬))
Anchovies on toast. Yum Yum.
I used to smoke Three Nuns curly cut, Royal Yacht and Early Morning Pipe. All great smokes.
Golden Virginia (like Old Holborn) is a specific cigarette-rolling tobacco.
In 1966 it was three shillings and a ha’penny.
Maybe that’s why I didn’t think much of it in my pipe!
My former brother in law used to smoke that – it has quite a distinctive sweet smell.
Loved the smell of Sobranie.
Somethings for Caroline and Rastus:
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Far right trouble makers – clearly. (The petitioners, NOT R & C).
Speaking as a far-right trouble-maker…
I think I signed that one the other day.
More and more people I talk to here in France are becoming wary of anything the medical authorities say. Maybe it’s just the “far-right trouble makers” I associate with… but I am often surprised that my own scepticism is met with agreement and not contradiction. Could this be a sign that the tide is finally changing?
One hopes so, Caroline.
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I think Toby will capitulate. Neil Oliver is more likely to speak out and be damned.
Yes – I think it highly unlikely that Neil Oliver will wish to stay.
If he goes and if they replace those they have sacked with Amy Nickel, Benjamin Butterworth, Tessa Dunlop, Rebbeca Reid and Andrew Pierce then the channel will not last much longer!
I wonder what Grease Slime and Farage will do – will they stand by their colleagues or just carry on regardless?
How long before YouTube shuts off Neil Oliver? Slime and Farage still have other channels, presumably.
I think Toby will capitulate. Neil Oliver is more likely to speak out and be damned.
Rejoicing in Parliament. Rejoicing in the MSM
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Calvin Robinson has made the mistake of expressing the fact that he believes in Christian values unlike the Archpillock of Canterbury.
Any pretence that GB News is remotely interested in free speech is clearly a lie.
They are spineless and cannot stand up to the woke, cannot stand up to the PTB and cannot stand p to the MSM.
I wonder if they will continue to invite Toby Young of the Free Speech Union to appear on their channel again. If they do I hope that Toby will show the testicular strength to tell them to go and urinate elsewhere.
Toby is already very ambivalent. What has Calvin done wrong?
He dared to show support for Dan Wootton by declining to appear on the latter’s show during the host’s absence.
Sounds like a sin of omission.
Just as well it wasn’t the sin of nodan….
And this Ladies and Gentlemen is how the native North American Indians were overwhelmed….
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1707565084099150210?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1707565084099150210%7Ctwgr%5Ed023562297f24df7dc46d7038b0e68f03fd5171b%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fpolitical%2Fheres-whats-really-going-elon-musk-live-streams-southern-border-chaos
It’s the great migration river crossing – are there crocs in that water? The wildebeest on the move.
Phew! It’s warm out there! Just picked the last of the ripe tomatoes, though some had split in the wet weather this week and I left them as the snails and woodlice had already started to eat them.
Changed the hanging baskets over but that was a bit of a job as they are heavy, being so wet. Neither of us has much arm strength and we’re a bit wobbly standing on a chair or stool. Still, it’s done. The geraniums have gone over and the pansies are doing ok.
– Blimey, there is no stopping the forces of world government globalism.
Expulsion of Mark Steyn
A debanking of Farage
Excommunication of Fox & Wooton.
Now a crucifixion of Calvin
If they keep on like this they are likely to get an uprising.
God knows what they have in store for us if people like those that are getting purged are a threat.
377206+ up ticks,
The question is will it still, once again receive the peoples support ?
https://x.com/toadmeister/status/1707666573756952799?s=20
Ha bloody ha…https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12571341/Biodegradable-carrier-bags-toxic-conventional-plastic-versions-study-claims.html
Biodegradable bags aren’t robust, anyway. They, well, biodegrade and fall to pieces!
The voters who see through Labour’s farce on VATing private schools are two groups. The first are rich folk who don’t want the proles to have the same choices and will vote Labour to kick away the ladder.
The others wouldn’t vote Labour anyway.
Tree takes retribution:
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Here’s Jeff’s take on the GB News cancellation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq9xzvFSTrI
377206+ up ticks,
Methinks shades of the 2019 ukip treacherous NEC actions
in play.
https://x.com/DVATW/status/1707709506057122047?s=20
????? Ffs. What is going on?
Neil Oliver. on Trudeau’s huge blunder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne0KV_8NgXg
Well, he got there in the end – the Azov Brigade, that is. The other thing not spoken about is the choice that Ukrainians had at the start of WW2. Stalin was their enemy, having crushed their post-revolution independence by 1922 and then starving millions of them in the 1930s.
Given that Ukraine (old Russian for “borderland”) as a district was created in 1922, who were the people strivng for independence between 1917 and 1922? Stalin surely starved millions of Russians. Mass starvation is an inevitable consequence of communism. Isn’t that why Venezuelans are now pouring into the US?
“…who were the people strivng for independence between 1917 and 1922”
Ukrainians.
But they weren’t. When my family left Odessa in 1899 they knew of no such place as Ukraine. Because it didn’t exist. What passes for a Ukrainian language is just a dialect of Russian.
“…[the] Ukrainian language is just a dialect of Russian.”
In some quarters. Both have the same root. The name Ukraine appears in the 12th century but its application to the language not until, perhaps, the 19th when the idea of a Ukrainian people arose as Russia effectively banned the language.
The Ukrainian People’s Republic came out of the first revolution of 1917. It became a bit ‘Judean People’s Front’ until 1922 when Stalin stamped on it.
There’s no such place as England, it’s merely the remains of a province of the Roman Empire.
What I still cannot grasp about Yaroslav Hunka’s invitation to the Canadian parliament and his being celebrated as a Ukrainian war hero is what role the Speaker of the Canadian Parliament thought Hunka had played in the Second World War. He was praised for fighting Russians on behalf of Ukraine but did the Speaker somehow imagine that Hunka did so independently of Germany on the Eastern Front. Were there Ukrainian units doing just that, fighting Russians but not in alliance with the Third Reich? Because, were I the Speaker of that house, I would have endeavoured to discover what part Hunka had played in WWII before deciding whether to issue the invitation. Neil Oliver’s likening of the events in the Canadian parliament to 1984 has a ring of truth about it in that Canadian parliamentarians have blindly praised a man purely on the basis that he fought Russians, now deemed an enemy of and a threat to Canada, regardless of the details of what actually happened in the Second World War.
I’m not at all an apologist for Trudeau but I disagree with Oliver’s assertion about Trudeau’s claim, that all Canadians were embarrassed by what went on in parliament, was an attempt to spread blame and to absolve himself of all responsibility. It’s perfectly possible, normal even, to feel embarrassed by an incident involving your country without in any way being implicated by and responsible for it. I don’t believe Trudeau was trying to do that, even though he’s a slippery, slimy chancer.
What I still cannot grasp about Yaroslav Hunka’s invitation to the Canadian parliament and his being celebrated as a Ukrainian war hero is what role the Speaker of the Canadian Parliament thought Hunka had played in the Second World War.
Though I do not like Trudeau, I haven’t joined in on this because I think that it was just a blunder. The Speaker simply did not do his homework. It probably never occurred to him that the man could be a former member of the Third Reich and living in Canada.
If the Canadian parliament is anything like ours they will be employing thousands of SPADS and researchers. There is no excuse for this.
I reckon it was deliberate.
I’m Gobsmacked! Someone more paranoid than myself!
Nah. Realistic.
Five of us, so far.
The arrogance is breath taking seeing how many Canadians heeded the call. No wonder the little prick needs so much security. I would head butt him myself given the chance.
TBH I am not interested in what went on in Canada, there’s far too much going on in U.K. to get my head around.
I just think that the war in Ukraine, where U.K. is doing the dirty work for USA, should never have happened and that people over here should be urging peace talks not urging the Ukrainians on.
Trump (spit?) Wanted to negotiate, but…
One of the many reasons they wanted to get rid of him. We can’t have anybody with sensible ideas being in power, can we?
I don’t spit on Trump, I have liked most of what he used to say. But then I don’t know all the ins and outs of US except the government is a warmonger of the first order. And U.K. is not their BF – US is its own best friend.
Negotiation, yes.
Of course one would expect the Canadian parliamentarians to understand that the USSR fought on the side of the Western Allies in WWII but then one would also expect them to understand that Ukraine was a creation of the USSR. The whole narrative has become so twisted that it’s now only amazing they can still tell their arse from their elbow. Or can they?
It appears Trudeau can’t.
I would think it was highly embarassing for Canadians to be associated with this – not that they are in any way guilty of this, but presumably some of them voted for this idiot.
Speaker likely wanted to defenestrate Trudeau, and may well be successful.
Sky New Australia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D-7hnA2A0M
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I indulge in a bacon and egg sandwich every Saturday morning.
I make no excuses for enjoying it.
Usually with home made bloomer.
But I’ve run out so sadly it will have to be home made wholemeal.
Nice!
I know you don’t like daddy’s sauce. That’s why I didn’t mention it.
I love Daddies, HP, other stronger sauces…
One of my friends, who’s a vegetarian, eats “vegetarian bacon”! What?
Frankenstein food. It will kill him/her.
Going out to harvest potatoes. I may be some time.
You need to be a potato clock to do that.
Just in case some don’t get it you say ‘a potato clock’ in an Irish accent. :@)
Like Chinese dentist?
2.30. :@)
Watch out for those penguins!
Don’t shoot until you see the Whites and their eyes!
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Lots of E(U) numbers …
Just lying there doing nothing.
That’s politics for you.
Found an alternative to those posted the other day
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377206+ up ticks,
The Irish peoples invited them in with a kiss X, I suppose the howdo halal dog for dinner habit travels with them.
https://x.com/DavidPoulden/status/1707746492545393068?s=20
I think it’s more likely to be a pig.
In a poke?
Gordon Bonnet!
Dubonnet?
(A name from the distant past)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmoxFSbbtm4
377206+ up ticks,
Evening A,
It does look like it is pawring the air though.
Everybody chant along: “Diversity strength”
It would solve the American XL Bully problem.
Prevening, all. Here for but a short while and then gone 🙂 I’m off to a harvest supper later. Looking forward to it. The chap who supplies the meat grows his own, so to speak. It’s very tasty (we had a barbecue after the patronal festival).
I’d like to think voters will see through Labour’s spin, but they don’t have previous in that regard. I am particularly concerned by Labour’s wooing of the countryside. They hate rural constituencies and their voters; it’s in their DNA. They are an urban, class warfare party and they won’t change, whatever they say. I can only hope that people won’t be fooled (but I’m not holding my breath).
Sounds excellent Conners.
I fear for our country if labour win the next election. Our country has been wrecked by blairs lies.
And it never ends.
Bon appetit.
Merci, Guillaume.
Made it home in an on the road time of 5 hrs 44 mins. Plus stops for bathroom breaks coffee and M&S Delicious sandwiches.
292 miles.
51 mph average.
52 mpg.
Towards the end before our Turn off at Chiswell Green St Albans, the M25 was horrendous. But only what we expected for Friday.
Feet up and looking forward to the Ryder Cup,
Great results
How often did you recharge the battery? (Just pulling your leg).
U LEZ would.
I’ve assaulted my battery.
I’ll never have one of those Bill.
I feel I’m asking an expert on the subject. Was it Eagle or Beagle?
Why is the name of the Croydon ‘murderer’ with held from public knowledge. How is this allowed ?
I am shocked you do not know…..!!
Because he is under 18. And not yet charged.
He was in court today facing the charge of murder.
I’m sure there must be a reason, but given that the “age of consent” is 16 and that lefties want the voting age reduced to 16 I think that such
murdering bastardsinnocent until proven guilty parties should be named so that other people assaulted/attacked by them can come forward.The Grimes just now:
“A 17-year-old boy has appeared in court charged with murdering 15-year-old Elianne Andam in south London.
The boy, who cannot legally be named because of his age, is also charged with possessing a kitchen knife in a public place without good reason.”
If the reports are true, (unlikely), that kitchen must have some strange looking knives.
You didn’t contradict/explain why my point re age of consent etc should not be altered.
Yer Parliament would have to do that. Ask your Labour candidate…
And doubtless for that opinion it will be several guineas, even though it sidestepped the issue.
Albeit neatly…
Perhaps, given these circumstances, it’s time to change the law. It could have saved many lives.
Name and shame it might stop the bastards from taking knives out everywhere they seem to go.
6 months behind bars for possession of a knife in a public place.
Bring it on.
377206+ up ticks,
Did I hear right, andrew neil is circling, potential staff post ?
https://youtu.be/ff6wHhIIX0o?si=gb-71iGGP_APwpy6
That’s me for this Friday. Off to bang a saucepan (see earlier post).
Have a spiffing evening
A demain.
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‘Bollocks’ Johnson had no testicular strength when failing to deal with the remainers in his party; he had no testicular strength when he caved in to the EU on Northern Ireland and the UK’s fishing waters. He lacked the courage to get rid of May’s Net Zero madness. When it came to any crunch he was mendacious and bombastic and pathetically weak.
He has enough money not to be personally affected by the environmental scams that will ruin most people’s lives and livelihoods and destroy the country.
How dare he talk about guts and ambition – he is just a flaccid bag of evil-smelling putrid wind.
Stop beating about the bush and tell us what you really think of him. 😳
He’d be banned even from Nottle as the whole Disqus edifice collapsed…
That scenario may not be too far in the future…
I doubt that “the world” is interested enough to be watching, but if they are, they must be laughing themselves silly!
That does remind me, however….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRNPkJ0ELPc
We need to show we have the guts and ambition to ditch EU projects (and all the rest of the EU stuff that’s holding us back).
You write about caving in to the EU over Northern Ireland and fishing waters as if, had he been adamant about not giving ground, there would have been absolutely no adverse consequences, that if he’d only been more resolute the EU would have accepted his terms with barely a murmur. I strongly suspect the EU would have treated the UK as a foreign state with which it would have no international trading agreement resulting in maximum barriers to UK exports to the EU and it would have established a proper physical frontier between Northern Ireland and the Republic with all the hold-ups at border crossings that would ensue. Yes, this would have had adverse impacts on the EU economy but the UK’s economy, especially that of Northern Ireland, would have been hit even harder. Now ask yourself whether those would have been acceptable sacrifices to make in order to treat Northern Ireland as a fully integrated part of the United Kingdom and for UK fishermen to be allowed the full quota of catches in UK fishing waters from day one rather than share them, on a diminishing scale, with EU fishermen.
A price woth paying for our true freedom. Everything should have been taken back to put the country as it was befoere we joined on that lie that it was about trade only.
Given that their markets relied on us (they exported more to us than we did to them) and we had the Commonwealth to fall back on (sadly abandoned in the pursuit of EEC/EU membership), adverse consequences would have been minimal, particularly if we’d traded on WTO terms (which would have made their attempts at punishment nul and void) and actually gone about stripping away all the uncompetitive, restrictive directives to free the country.
The EU has over 40 external borders with non-EU nations (Including Brazil vis French Guyana). The Irish border is the only one which is managed this way.
Weakness is strength. Strength is weakn…toxic masculinity.
He’s no worse than Cameron, May and Sunak. Truss, who knows? None of them care a jot for the UK’s future regarding its population (native or not).
Thought for the day:
If the 98 year old Nazi had pulled a gun and killed Trudeau would you have regarded him as a hero?
Yes.
On balance, yes.
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On the other hand they do get regular meals and their slaves pick up their muck after them …
It’s still demeaning behaviour towards those dressed up dogs, Conners.
I am not a fan of dressing dogs up, Elsie. They are not surrogate children, they’re canines.
I must admit i bought one of these for Dolly as i thought it was funny…https://youtu.be/1k03YeUKPNU
You wouldn’t believe the look of reproach she gave me. Now in the back of a drawer.
The collective mind of the BBC is revealed in this remark in an article about Laurence Fox:
When he tested positive for the virus in January 2022, he said he was “joining the natural immunity club” and was taking an anti-worming treatment along with painkillers.
This is a reference to Ivermectin.
This is the writer:
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Who would want to shag her?
Get in the queue…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GsW5ja2Ghg
Uncommonly coarse of you, Bill.
🙁
He’s busy banging his saucepan…..
The young woman about whom Fox made the remarks has made similar remarks herself on several occasions apparently.
One doesn’t have to join in.
Simply keeping up with the times, Paul…
I Say…….🤔
Her girlfriend.
Another measured, balanced and totally unbiased article by a BBC apparatchik! /sarc
It’s ridiculously early but I can hardly keep my eyes open. I’ve set up the TV to record the highlights of the golf.
Nytol.
Early is when I need to get up to watch the golf.
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Any Wordlers?
4 today.
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I got my first ever score of 2 today (don’t understand all that golfing stuff…!)
Good, just a bit of brain exercise that doesn’t involve the current political/social/gender/climate shite.
Oh yes indeed – I play it a lot!
Yes. On a work day I do Wordle at lunch time.
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I saw a book entitled “Murdle” this morning; it’s like wordle, but with corpses 🙂
Yes in just two weeks (Friday the 13th of October) our Book Club will meet in Colchester’s Officers’ Club to learn about Murdle whilst enjoying a two course meal.
I had a sort out of the jars I’ve collected over the years and have discovered another batch of chutney I made a year ago!
Anyone passing is welcome to call in for a jar!
And with that, I’m off to bed. G’night all.
I usually go to the pub for a jar, BoB. G’night.
Sleep well Bob.
Churneytastic!
Chutney sounds like one of those words we’ve inherited from India.
You mean looted! (copyright the BBC)
Look what we did to help the start up of the EU.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFVK7bGU-7g
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True, but it’s also why the French (especially) and some other European countries loathe us.
Indeed. The French have never forgiven us for not giving in like they did.
The French are always there when THEY need us.
A good deed is never forgiven.
The French hierarchy have never forgiven us for Agincourt, Crècy, Waterloo and Trafalgar.
They are still busy taking revenge buy forcing England to accept illegal invaders. And making the Brits to queue for hours to cross the channel.
All those who died, now in vain fighting the Nazi regime. Now we have the German led Brussels mafiosi running our country. Through the corridors of Westminster and Whitehall.
Who or what the fuck is Tupac?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-66967704
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-66966937
A dead rapper?
Maybe you know him better as 2pac – whoever that might be.
No, I’m none the wiser.
Goodnight, all. Harvest supper was excellent; thick slices of fillet steak with new potatoes, peas, carrots, gravy and home-made Yorkshire pud, followed by home-made apple pie with cream. We sang We plough the fields and scatter along with Come Ye Thankful People Come. I hope the one on Sunday will be as good.
Fillet steak eh! 😋
Filled of grasshopper, we have to be green nowadays.
Very nice it was, too.
Saturday 30th September, 2025
One Last Try
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and very many more!
With best wishes,
Caroline and Rastus
I was sad to see that Italy was so soundly beaten by the All Blacks in the Rugby – but I was delighted that Italy got
ONE LAST TRY
in the 80th and final minute of the game!
Happy Birthday, One Last Try.
“Saturday 30th September, 2025”
Back to the future?
Good night, chums. Sleep well, and I hope to see you all tomorrow.
Good morning!
Interesting historical perspective
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and the Babylon Bee
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Good morning, all – Saturday’s new page is here.
Thank you.