Saturday 4 October: How it feels to be Jewish in Britain at a time of mounting danger

Posted on by Geoff Graham

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493 thoughts on “Saturday 4 October: How it feels to be Jewish in Britain at a time of mounting danger”

  1. Morning Geoff,

    Glad you are able to start a new page.

    P.S. I posted this with due haste because my WiFi drops out without notice.. I think it's something to do with trying to achieve orthogonality of WiFi connections when moving from frequency separation to time division multiplexing. I think it impacts negatively on latency and signalling protocols,

      1. I’m glad you spotted what I have discovered.
        What I am beginning to understand is how a system that appears to be working can nonetheless becapable of catastrophic failure like the doomed Air India flight.

      1. Before WIFi six you could get a better connection by getting your router to work on an uncrowded frequency band,

        With WiFi six a scheme of sharing data transmissiom using a time slot system in which some people can get bumped off has been evolved.

        It’s the way Richard Branson started Virgin when he bought an aircraft to carry a whole load of bumped off passengers when the existing air transport system was overloaded.

      1. To keep it short – the new WiFi protocols bump people off a queue of requests to connect through their router connection to the internet owing to overcrowding of the radio waves.

        I think Phizee has agreed with my original explanation.

      1. Could you not have posted that without the downvote to Aeneas, Jeremy? (Good morning, btw.)

        PS – I see that you have now removed your downvote. Well done!

        3. No I didn't. Someone else monitoring my activity might have done, but on my system the downvote stands.

          I walked out of the Church of England because I felt that, given my own harrowing experience of the treatment of fathers in the divorce courts and the exclusion of men in the workplace due to feminist campaigns for previous male dominances to be reversed, that it was hypocritical for me to sing in the Church choir at weddings in a church that was founded on a king's divorce. These jokes were a rather nasty way for ambitious women, more concerned with their own advancement at the expense of men, to rub salt in the wound.

          On pilgrimage to Walsingham in 2012, I had a good long think about the gender binary nature of God, and concluded that creation is a marriage of the spiritual with the material, and that neither can exist in any form without the other. The spiritual gives life and meaning to lumpen matter, and the material gives substance to what would otherwise be aetherial and void. In our gender understanding, one is assigned masculine and the other feminine, but this is a convention. In Chinese culture 'yang' is regarded as masculine and 'yen' as feminine, but these assignations are merely an aid to understanding, and the divine goes way beyond gender.

          'God' is traditionally masculine, whereas the Earth and the Universe is feminine, since it is what bears us, nurses us and supports us intimately through life from Her [important edit] own body. God, the Holy Spirit, is more distant, but He is no less vital.

          This cartoon undermines the very premise of my religious understanding, and considering my own suffering, is rather offensive. I would not go so far as to consider it a "hate crime", merely bad taste, and a downtick the appropriate sanction.

      2. WWhen God made man she was only practising, then corrected all the faults and made woman 🙂

        2. Slight amendment(s):
          When God made man FIRST she was only practising.
          She didn't half get it wrong with the Menopause, just as women are saying goodbye to up to 40 years of periods.

  4. Good morning, chums. And thanks, Geoff, for today's new NoTTLe site. Wordle today was a Par.

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      2. Was pretty bad. Trees, wires, me…all still in order – you are much further North, hope you and yours are AOK x

        1. Glad you're ok Kate, Me and cat are ok thanks although I had to get up at 1am to let her in x

  6. Good morning, everyone. I have been locked out of nttl for 4 days. Now managed to change password and hope this works.

    4. Mine went off a few days ago. Suspect a server down somewhere in the chain. Ended up watching Godfather instead, as good as ever.

    5. If you have trouble remembering passwords a top tip is to use either '5thNovember' or 'The Alamo'

      1. Think of a memorable phrase, eg. "To be, or not to be, that is the question" and take the initial letters "Tbontbtitq".
        If numbers or special characters are required change the letters for that which resembles specific letters:-
        "Tb0ntbt1t@"

        1. Reform and all the other 'breakaway' parties have effectively split the vote.

          The gullible public will not see this (they are now beyond help) and will vote for all of them. thus keeping Labour in power ad infinitum, ad nauseam, until someone — on the Right — grows a brain.

          I shan't lose any sleep worrying when that might be.

      2. Agree with Ndovu. Many now voting Reform, no idea what Badenoch actually stands for, although she's done a bit better lately PMQs.

  9. 413795+ uo ticksm

    Morning Each,
    Devon Made
    @made_63

    “A people who elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices” – George Orwell.🧡

    Very apt in regards to the last General Election result especially.

    1. Orwell missed out the word "knowingly".
      Changes the whole meaning. Or are we to assume all politicians are corrupt? That has it's own set of consequences.

      1. ALL politicians, at every level, of every party, in every country, know they are corrupt.

        It's why they enter politics: the power and the greed.

      2. There will always be some who are – and some are certainly misled, similarly voters – only vote for policies, not gender/colour/religion etc.

    2. People were pissed off with the last lot who were bad…. but not voting at all let in the current lot who are more than bad. They are the most malevolent government yet.

      1. I've voted ever since I could (the old Liberal party, at that time, no relation to current LiDems – I still consider myself an old-fashioned Liberal). Next up, Thatcher, have stuck with Conservatives since, often reluctantly. Next – Advance mail me regularly, but I'll be voting Reform albeit with some hesitancy (not worked out the reason for that as yet).

      2. 413795+ up ticks,

        Morning N,
        Successive governments these past thirty plus years have been elected via voting tribalism
        ” you gotta keep out” mantra,all well supported, along with tactical voting to protect the lab/lib/con political close shop.

        In my book, in all honesty, we got what we were due via our neglect and woeful stupidity in putting party before Country.

        1. When I was campaigning I used to say, "don't vote for what you don't really want to keep out what you really don't want – vote for something you DO want!" Alas, it fell on deaf ears.

          1. 413831+ up ticks,

            Morning N,
            Then, sad to say we differ, we are suffering a bitter harvest, the consequences of political crop rotation over these last thirty plus years
            being of a treacherous deceitful nature via the lab/lib/con,IN NAME ONLY close shop party before Country support.
            The likes of Miranda blair unleashing the invasion on behalf of labour,followed by cretins such as the wretch cameron and treacherous treasa, ALL supported via the polling stations under the banner of tribal voting.
            In my book we are getting away light currently with a chance to retaliate in a justifiable manner, every day that chance diminishes with every arrival.

  11. Good morning to all, a bit of a lie in this morning.
    A bright start to the day, scattered clouds and a rather gusty wind with 11°C on the thermometer.

  12. Good Morning!

    Two short but major articles for you today, so please read both. The first is from the NHS frontline, as Xandra H tells the first part of the AI, psychopaths and narcissists, in The Artificially Intelligent Global Health Service . Yes folk, it's as bad as you think – if not worse. And then we have Paddy Taylor, righteously indignant in Never Again? We Are Watching It Again on the disgraceful but predictable rise of antisemitism in Britain. Please do read both.

    In Dichotomy Part 5 – Cricket As Education , John Drewry continues his delightful tale of two boys' journey across a futuristic but rural Britannia restored to health and sanity after the catastrophic rule of the Killjoys. In this episode, the game of cricket is used as a metaphor for life, and defined in a way those innocent of the game can appreciate. Added later in the day was an angry piece The Starmer Regime is Guilty of Manslaughter in Manchester , blaming it for the Manchester murders.

    1. I can't agree with you on the cricket story, Tom. You say "… the game of cricket is… defined in a way those innocent of the game can appreciate." Well I personally know nothing about cricket, but I read the story as an innocent in an attempt to understand it better. Then you quoted that old chestnut along the lines of "they go in until they are out, and then those who are out go in" etc. which only results in more confusion for me. Just like the definition of the offside rule in football, it's the reason why sport does nothing at all for me.

      1. Is it an old chestnut Elsie. I’m so innocent of the game I’d never heard it before.

      2. Everyone knows that cricket is a civilising game. Even Robert Mugabe recognised this, once. In the first flush of his country's independence, he is reported to have said, "I want everyone to play cricket in Zimbabwe. I want ours to be a nation of gentlemen."

        Beyond fiction? Cricket brings many strange alliances, especially in literature. Quiz addicts may know that Samuel Beckett is the only Nobel laureate to appear in the cricketer's bible, Wisden.

        I'm willing to bet, however, that not many cricket quizzers know that it was Dickens who inadvertently sponsored the Ashes. In the annals of the game, there are few stranger consequences of the novelist's extraordinary celebrity.

        In 1861, a Melbourne catering company, Spiers & Pond, impressed by the huge success of Dickens's public readings in Britain and the USA, invited the writer to perform in Australia. But Dickens was exhausted and unwell, and declined. In quest of sponsorship, Spiers & Pond moved smoothly from literature to cricket, and asked an English team on tour. Some senior players accepted an offer of £150 apiece to travel to Australia and play a statewide series of matches.

        The Spiers & Pond tournament was a great success. In 1863 the Melbourne Cricket Club invited more players. Eventually, the English cricketing establishment reciprocated, with ultimately humiliating consequences for the home team. But it is somehow appropriate that the Ashes series should begin with Dickens, the creator of that supreme proto-Australian, Magwitch, the sombre offstage presence who broods over Great Expectations.

        By the turn of the century, the marriage of ink and willow was complete. JM Barrie, Arthur Conan Doyle, AA Milne, and HG Wells were all keen players. The author of Peter Pan even fielded his own team, the Allahakbarries, a name derived, according to its captain, from the Arabic for "Heaven help us" ("God is great"would be more accurate).

        In Edwardian times, it was as common for literary London to meet at the batting crease as in the reading room. Conan Doyle, who used to hold a cricket week at home in Hindhead, was an accomplished batsman, and his protege, PG Wodehouse a useful medium-fast right arm bowler.

        By now, cricket had become less a game, more a metaphor for a way of life. English writers ranged from the fervently idolatrous to the merely obsessed. Some were rash enough to attempt capturing the mysteries of the game in the pages of their books.

        AG Macdonnell, in England, Their England, was famously successful, but misleading. His account is thrilling, and hilarious but it's the intermittent tedium of the game that makes it true to experience. A memorable Observer account of the batsman Chris Tavare noted that watching him bat was "a bit like waiting to die".

        Macdonnell wrote about village cricket, but the apotheosis of the game is the test match, especially an Ashes test. Tom Stoppard once said, of this supreme contest, "I don't think I could take seriously any game which takes less than three days to reach its conclusion".

        Stoppard's play, The Real Thing contains perhaps the best cricket speech in English literature: "What we're trying to do", says Henry , "is to write cricket bats, so that when we throw up an idea and give it a little knock, it might travel…"

        Baseball, I regret to say, does not come close. Americans have baseball novels (Malamud's The Natural, for instance) and "Casey at the Bat". Some Americans associate baseball and literature, with names like Angell, Auster, Roth and Halberstam.

        We, who have cricket, an infinitely richer game, can invoke fiction, drama, and, without breaking a sweat, the cricket poems of Byron, Blake, Betjeman, Tennyson and Pinter.

        Someone once said that Pinter's plays were analagous to a game of cricket: players standing around, apparently unrelated, in situations of excruciating tedium, occasionally uttering gnomic remarks before making inexplicable exits.

        The measure of cricket's literary heft is the range of its appeal. James Joyce, for instance, has a tour de force passage in which he smuggles the slightly altered names of thirty one cricketing stars into the text of Finnegans Wake.

        More recently, Joseph O'Neill's exceptional novel Netherland contains many fine passages on cricket, and uses the game as a way to explore the life of New York after 9/11.

        Not all writers find such depths in the game. In Life, The Universe and Everything, Douglas Adams has a satirical passage in which an "Ashes trophy" is stolen from the planet Krikkit. A wonderful man, but obviously not a player, or even a gentleman.

        There you have it: even Sir Pelham Grenville Wodehouse, one of your heroes, is described as "a useful, medium-fast, right hand bowler", while another, Charles John Huffam Dickens, sponsored The Ashes.

        https://cricketeer.uk/2025/08/10/ultimate-guide-to-cricket-quotes/

        1. Baseball is rounders. Anyone not good enough at tennis spent the summer term playing rounders.

        2. The French friend with whom I stay when I go to France is a cricket devotee. She understands the game far better than I do (and my mother made me watch Worcestershire when I was a child and I played for the staff team at school).

    2. You always have so much interesting and thought-provoking, Tom. How do you do it?

  14. Good Lord!
    According to the BBC news on Radio 3 the Police have finally admitted that the Manchester Stabber "may have been influenced by extreme Islamist ideology"!!

    1. It hardly takes the brains of an archbishop to work that one out as much as they dont want to say it! Lone wolf of course, all the other slammers are such luverly peeps.

      1. Loved his nan though. Can’t understand how it happened. Must have be radicalised by the far-right racism he received from the far-right racist thugs who dominate society

    2. Funny how these attackers ate "influenced" by some external force which seems to absolve them to some degree, never of their own volition.

  15. Morning, all Y'all.
    Roaring Forties out there… trees down all over the place, torrential rain, strong advice to not drive anywhere, and to stay indoors to avoid being hit by flying stuff. Very miserable. Power lines down all over, too. Fortunately, we have wood if the 'leccy goes, but that won't power the hot water, laptop or cooker. Glad I cleared the terrace yesterday evening…

  17. Has the father of the mental case who had a knife accident on Thursday been arrested for his hateful facebook entry praising the heroic Hamas soldiers for their action on 7 October 2023?

    Just asking.

  18. once again I despair at how stupid some people are.

    “sir – As the daughter of a first-cousin marriage, I am pleased to inform your readers that I am fit, hale and hearty.
    I have two healthy children, who in turn have two healthy children of their own. Carole Urquhart Ashford, Kent”

    Well Carole. The problem is not one cousin marriage, once. The problem is constant cousin marriages, repeatedly.

    1. Though my dear and late friend who lived in Denmark until she died in May suffered many ops and treatments for cleft palate and hare lip as a child and teenager. Her parents were first cousins.

  19. SIR — With the growth of anti-Semitism, isn’t it time for non-Jews to find out more about Judaism?

    I converted from Christianity to Judaism to marry my lovely wife, but in doing so I found that we had so much in common from a religious perspective. Jesus, after all, was Jewish.

    Edward Page
    Milford on Sea, Hampshire.

    Jesus, being Jewish, highlights the problem.

    Ali (of snackbar fame) is not Jewish. That's why all the rabble, detritus and Left-wing apologist scum, who have nothing better to do than march, shout, scream and throw things in the street, en masse, while committing every single public order offence in the book, are motivated. Trouble is, half a brain cell holds nearly as much useful information as a BBC computer from 1981 (or a BBC journalist from 2025).

    If those 'activists' even shared a brain cell between themselves, they might work out the fact that both Jews and Arabs originated from the very same Semite tribe as each other. Having said that, they would still be terminally confused.

    1. Good morning. The BBC didn’t have computers in 1981. My first desk in 1991 still sported an electric typewriter, though there was also a mainframe pc with Wordstar. The latter was a new innovation at that time. No email of course. Lots of memos in internal post. They were making good programmes though,

      1. Good morning, Sue. Hope you are feeling well this morning.

        I was thinking more of the commercial (home computing) product, called the BBC Micro (manufactured by Acorn Computers), not a computerised system within the Corporation.

        "BBC computers of the 1980s refers to the BBC Micro, a range of computers designed by Acorn Computers for the BBC's Computer Literacy Project, which began in 1981 to improve computer literacy in the UK. Highly successful in British schools and popular in homes, the BBC Micro was known for its ruggedness and reliability, and it was the machine that introduced many Britons to computing."

        1. I bought a Commodore 64 for the children.
          It ran a spreadsheet/word processor/data base programme called Framework 2 which was superb.

          Far better than the Microsoft competition.
          I believe Gates bought them out and stopped production, prioritising his software: though my memory may be playing tricks.

      2. At the age of 13 I remember watching the 1959 General Election programme, on TV, with my parents. It was the first time a computer had been used to predict the outcome. The computer was delivered to the TV Centre on the back of a low loader.
        I think it was 1980 when Clive Sinclair introduced tye ZX80 home computer that had more power than the 1959 computer.

        1. My sons cut their IT teeth with the ZX81 and Spectrum. I didn't use one myself till I started at the JobCentre in 1990. We had a primitive benefit system and a primitive signing on system which didn't speak to each other. We had to communicate by telephone with the Benefits people.

      3. I remember having an Amstrad PCW and one of Caroline's first memories in the Autumn term of 1986 was of me fuming with rage because, at the press of the wrong key, I had lost three hours of work producing the original notes which I had written on John Milton's Comus which I was going to print, photocopy and distribute to my Upper VIth English set.

        Caroline decided to learn how to touch type properly and one of the first exercises she gave herself was to type many of the original teaching notes that I had produced over the years on banda sheets on Shakespeare's tragedies and other texts my pupils needed to know.

        1. I remember Banda sheets! Always so faded you could barely read them, and they were often in colour, too.

        2. I have explained to Sonny Boy as he sorts out new phone apps, that I am wary of such techie stuff because I used computers/word processors in the 80s.
          As you say, one wrong button, and hours of work vaporised.
          Plus the screens were a strange shade of charcoal with luminous 3D characters that strained your eyes. If your luck was really out, all sorts of strange marks (something to do with page layout) infested the screen which knackered your eyesight even more.

    2. I believe that – even though it may be hard to accept it – the indigenous population of the north of England and the indigenous population of the south of England are mostly of the same race.

      1. Here you go Rastus

        The indigenous British people

        Recent DNA and anthropological studies, as well as publications such as 'The Origins of the British', have proven beyond a doubt that the majority (at least two-thirds) of the present day British population are biologically the same as those settlers who first arrived in the British Isles towards the end of the last Ice Age.

        It is traditionally thought in academic circles that the invasions of Celts, Saxons, Angles, Jutes, Vikings and Normans were large scale invasions, and ended with the populations and gene pools of regions of Britain being substantially changed.

        In other words, the natives were pushed out and the invaders colonised.

        Recent studies have proved this to be a wrong assumption.

        Although the great invasions of the Celts and Germanic tribes did have enormous cultural consequences, this did not necessarily mean that the population itself shifted in a dramatic way.

        (Above) Map illustrating some of the European invasions of the British Isles after the withdrawal of the Roman legions post 400 AD. It has now been proved conclusively that, although the many invasions of Britain by kindred European tribes did have huge cultural consequences, they did not, as previously thought, have an overwhelming genetic effect on the native British population. It has been proved that upwards of two-thirds of the present day population of England share exactly the same biological heritage as the very first post-Ice Age settlers in Britain. In other areas of Britain that percentage rises significantly.

        The Romans are a perfect example:

        After invading the British Isles, the natives gradually adopted Roman customs, techniques, laws, culture and so on.

        This does not mean that the British themselves were replaced by the Romans, but only that the Roman occupation led to a cultural change, which people mistakenly assume meant a shift in the population.

        This is an important distinction and must be borne in mind when exploring the stories of the great invasions of the British Isles by the Romans, Celts, Saxons, Angles, Jutes, Vikings and Normans.

        (Above) Recent advances in DNA and genetic science have proven that the British people are the aboriginal inhabitants of the British Isles.

        These new genetic and DNA studies prove beyond a doubt that the British people are indigenous to these islands.

        We are the aboriginal peoples of the British Isles and that is a fact, despite the poisonous lies of the liberal-left.

        You can find the book 'The Origins of the British' by clicking HERE.

        https://www.amazon.co.uk/Origins-British-Prehistory-Britain-Detective/dp/1845294823

        1. Ordered the Kindle edition – sounds interesting. I've more or less given up on family history but I did go back many generations and we're all British and English. I'm not not giving my DNA away to any of those companies though.

          1. I was about to say that you can do a kindle edition and it is cheap £4.99, for those interested in who we are and not what we are told we are by the likes of Shabana Mahmood or the traitorous Starmer.

          2. I know pretty much who I am……. I’ve tracked my ancestors back more than 10 generations in Glawstershire. On my mother’s side they are from Essex and Norfolk. Interestingly, all strands passed through London for several generations and then back out again.

            I don’t think my father knew he was coming home to Gloucestershire in 1939, as he was born in Surrey.

  20. 413795+ up ticks,

    Dt,

    Britain offered home to Syrian family of killer who repaid the favour in cold blood
    Syrian-born surgeon appears to regret son’s ‘heinous act’ but joyously greeted massacre of Jews on Oct 7 2023

    So in point of fact ignoring accommodation home front indigenous needs they, the poliical overseers aided & abetted a foreign terrorist spawning family its accommodation needs whilst waiting to activate.

    Which then begs the question how many more are in waiting ?

    Saturday 4 October: How it feels to be Jewish in Britain at a time of mounting danger.

    I would say on par with being born & bred English in current Britain.

    1. Thanks Korky. Fascinating and quite telling views from Louis Mosley. Let's hope Starmer's taking heed.

      2. I fear Starmer taking heed, even from an expert, is a vain hope.

        It’s odd that while Reeves is struggling over the budget, Starmer has committed the government to spend untold £Billions on this DID. If history, even recent history i.e. HS2, tells us anything, large government led projects never come in on budget. Hopefully this nonsense will fail due to a sky rocketing budget and technical shortcomings.

        1. He should take heed of voting patterns (us), Korky. But what does he care, off to the EC, and Blair backing him up (you’ll have seen Euan Blair’s Multiverse set to take up Digital ID). Imo Conservatives are finished, Reform will be elected. Then the battle with the CS will commence…place your bets 😀 or perhaps no battle and Reform cave as others before them have…..Kate 🙂

          1. Your point about the battle between Reform and the CS (Blob) was well discussed on the Lotus Eaters’ podcast the other day. Doubts about Farage and planning for government were discussed and worrying.

          2. Thanks, I’ve now subscribed. Hope to listen whilst doing other tasks…spend too much screen time already 🙂

    2. Thanks Korky. Fascinating and quite telling views from Louis Mosley. Let's hope Starmer's taking heed.

    3. That is actually heartening from such a company. So they do have principles or, at least, scruples.

    5. 26 degrees and sunny today in a seaside village in Valencia. Weather's holding up well and more foreign tourists now weather is milder. French lots of them and even a few English.

  24. Good morning all Sunny and cool. I thought we were supposed to be in a crisis because of howling winds and death by sharknado's, what happened? Not even a breeze outside.

    In response to todays Telegraph letter.
    Here is someone being unpleasant by daring to be intrusive with that nasty thing, reality.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uHmv4N14R0

      1. Doesn't matter, he is right by popular acclaim, because he tells the truth. He commands the people not the mainstream politicians nor Farage.

    2. He'll do himself a mischief with his vehemence – he looks a prime candidate for a heart attack there. He's right of course.

      1. I think there is something really special about Tommy Robinson. It is revealed in the fact that the wretched journalist could not come up with anyone who would dish dirt on him, even as far back as his school days. Some people are touched by god in some way and such people only pop up once in a rare while. I don’t mean that in necessarily a religious way but such people have a charisma, a certain something, that draws people to them who do not waver in their loyalty. I suspect that John Wesley, Savonarola or Winston Churchill had it. It is a special something that makes them natural leaders because they are conduits of truth and it makes the corrupt hate and fear them.

  25. Comment of the week..

    Would JAL hire a pilot called Kamikaze?

    Try naming your son Adolf or Hitler, then see how far you get.

  26. Pro-Palestine protests ‘risk endorsing anti-Semitism’, Met chief warns.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/04/pro-palestine-protests-london-manchester-antisemitism/

    In the unlikely event that the government now bans the pro -Palestine marches what would the government do in the face of mass disobedience?
    I very much suspect that they know that this is what would happen and that is why they are afraid of doing it and cannot do it.

    They have been imprisoned by their own cruel anti-Semitic stupidity.

    1. There's a saying about not meeting trouble half-way, and another about nipping things in the bud.
      This is why.
      The Islam problem has been allowed to fester for so long that clearing up is going to be a massive task, likely painful too. The sooner they start, the better. But, I'll not be holding my breath.

    3. BTL Comment:-

      …‘RISK endorsing anti-Semitism’….?????????
      Where the FOXTROT have the Met chiefs been the past two years?
      These marches in support of terrorism have already caused antisemitism to skyrocket.

  27. With their complete lack of understanding of how British people feel at the moment and their total lack of timing the government will now decide that it is the time to introduce their new definition of Islamophobia which will protect Muslims against all criticism – both justified and unjustified – and will prevent the media from reporting on Muslim rape gangs and Islamic terrorism.

  28. Oh dear what a pity:-

    British teenager who was jailed in Dubai for sex with 17-year-old girl is killed in crash after car failed to stop for police
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15161103/Marcus-Fakana-dies-teenager-jailed-Dubai-sex-17-girl-killed-car-crash.html

    It appears that, after being jailed for shagging a 17yo girl, illegal under Dubai Law, he was released after a massive campaign and, months later was passenger in a car that crashed after the driver refused to stop for Police, resulting in a chase.
    To say that my heart pumps purple piss for him is to put it mildly.

    5. Sadly, I doubt he would ever have been of much use to man or beast.
      Probably saved us about 50 years' of bennies.

    1. Pleased that my blood pressure was “ideal” (low) this morning. It helps my case for not being put back on Ramipril, which as well as reducing blood pressure, gave me a very nasty perpetual cough which I can do without. Not least because it makes my chest wound hurt, though that is beginning to ease now.

      1. I complained to the Practice Pharmacist that Ramipril was giving me a dry cough. Rather than change the medicine they are sending me for a chest X-Ray.

    2. I posted the same video on here last week.

      This Indian/British doctor, now practising in the USA, has made a good number of similarly sensible videos.

      'Big Pharma' are desperate for people to keep on buying and using their drugs. Their motto is, simply: A patient cured is a customer lost.
      The vast majority of drugs they produce are engineered to 'manage' your symptoms, but not to cure you.

    3. I posted the same video on here last week.

      This Indian/British doctor, now practising in the USA, has made a good number of similarly sensible videos.

      'Big Pharma' are desperate for people to keep on buying and using their drugs. Their motto is, simply: A patient cured is a customer lost.
      The vast majority of drugs they produce are engineered to 'manage' your symptoms, but not to cure you.

  31. Strong wind blowing this morning. The Wet Office "warning" suggests that we may all be dead very shortly as the wind is so dangerous.

    1. All them wind farms – will they store up all that Amy energy to last us through winter?

      thought not.

      1. I suspect they are shut down as it's too windy? Lucky the solar panels can make up the shortfall – oh, wait!

  32. I thought that I would ask If the king still has the power to dissolve parliament unilaterally. I found this for those interested in reading it. Seems, in theory, yes. But then how would the general public compel the king to act?

    https://www.milnerslaw.co.uk/could-king-charles-iii-dissolve-parliament/

    I suppose if millions were to sign a petition or, more compelling, millions, turned up in London and brought the place to a standstill, Any ideas? Because I know of no other act that can force an early general election unless Starmer willed it and I don't believe he will. He will keep power as long as he can cause destruction to our society.

    1. The only thing that can be guaranteed is that whatever decision the Idiot King makes it would be the wrong one.

    2. There would have to be a vote of no-confidence in the government. Since there is a huge Labour majority, why would that party's MPs vote to lose their jobs? Turkeys wouldn't vote for Christmas.

  33. Curious how Cur Ikea and the slammer home seckertry can ban some marches – but claim to have no power to stop others.

    1. They know that the ones that should be banned will just carry-ally-pally-on regardless.

        1. If they did, the soldiers would doubtless be sued by an army of 'uman roits lawyers and also prosecuted for any injuries caused to our Muslim and Pali loving friends.

  34. Must get on. I'm off to the Big Smoke. I'm going to a lecture at the Royal Institution this evening – on dark matter in the universe. Staying at the Victory Services Club then home tomorrow.

    I'll be in the very room where Faraday gave his lectures on electricity. (the one that's on tv every year for the Ri Christmas Lectures). V exciting.

    3. Dark Matter doesn't exist. They made it up to make their theories work.

      They need a better theory.

      1. So dark matter is a hypothesis? Is there anything that, at least, infers that it non/exists?

          1. I reckon at the other end there's a white hole, out of which things that've gone into the black hole emerge normal size.

            Although all joking aside, the suggestion for micro black holes to provide energy is one that's getting scientists excited. Imagine if we created on say 0.5cm across, then kept it going by chucking waste into it. The power output would be sufficient for most for the South East – for decades.

          2. The more black holes "feed", the bigger they get. Not a thing to experiment with before a guaranteed 100% fault free shut off "switch" is invented.

        3. As I understand it the hypothesis is based on the visible mass and hence the gravity within the Universe being insufficient to hold galaxies etc. together. Ergo, there has to be something else there with the gravitational attraction to hold every thing together. A suspect is a WIMP, Weakly Interacting Massive Particle.

          Courtesy of my memory and understanding of one episode of "How the Universe Works" series.🤔

          Found this via Google.
          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a1fe0367ab9672f9b7944a46c3bee6005f8b6a0fce10ca053014bdb927c45be7.png

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  37. I see that the shyte slammer "mare" of London refuses to stop the slammer marchers because of their right to "freedom of speech" – thus endorsing his own hatred of Jewish people.

    1. The woman is demented. Like all Leftists, she is arrogant, spoiled, profligate and psychotic.

    3. Should have jailed the social worker as well. Maybe then they would not be so tolerant of abuse.

          1. A friend of the family no doubt. As the NHS recently said one of the benefits of first cousin marriage are the extended links.

    4. Yeah. The “91 years” won’t impress me much when we learn there were 10 of them and half the sentences are to run concurrently.

      (I didn’t read the article; I am speculating as I have seen it before.

    1. I haven't listened to enough news to know if someone's come out with the line: "It was only two Jews. What about the thousands of dead Palestinians in Gaza?"

      1. Well, someone who was asked not to "march" in London said he didn't give a f*ck for the feelings of the Jews.

        Which is ghetting close to the answer to your question.

      2. Apparently, every Jew in the world is responsible for whatever Israel does. It follows logically that whenever a muzlim commits an atrocity anywhere, I can go out and kill any muzlim I encounter. Quid pro quo.

      3. Judging by "hostage exchange rates", two Jews are worth more than 1,000 Palestinians …

        1. Yep. The Palestinians are criminals and terrorists. The Jews were innocent members of the public.

      4. Depends where you look. The whinging pallywhacks in London certainly spouted that sentiment.

    2. Oh FFS. Yes there are Neo Nazis in the UK. He is presently picking his spots in his bedroom of his mother's house.

    5. Possibly veterans from the 1930s of the Hitler Youth still roaming the streets of Manchester

      1. Hmmm. Hitler Youth and the Nazis were Leftists. More likely they'd be at Labour party conference.

        1. I think they'll all be dead by now Pope Benedict was the last veteran of the Hitler Youth that I remember.
          In the Spanish city in north east Spain where I live there are several private bilingual schools the oldest of them being the exclusive German school. During the 30s and 40s pupils there were encouraged to join their chapter of the Hitler Youth. This is not often mentioned in the school's brochures.

    7. I see that very briefly at the start of the clip there is mention of "people of a middle-east mindset" or similar, then everything is Far Right/Hard Right/Neo-nasty over and over again! Good old BBC – impartial as ever!

    8. The BBC must remember that Hitler's party was originally called: The National Socialist German Workers' Party so Hitler was extreme left wing and anti-Semitic, just as Stalin was extreme left wing and anti-Semitic.

      So, you could argue that the BBC is right if it says that the murderer had the same mindset as Hitler and Stalin BUT wrong if it says that the murderer was FAR RIGHT because the attacker was very clearly FAR LEFT.

      The BBC does not know which way to go …..

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d86cacdcb7709bee1641f2b542a371ad969311674e64ef9b44592b3e294ac8e1.png
      but like everyone of the red political view they do not know the difference.
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      1. I a party wants to take over and run and control everything it is far left no matter what they are called.

        1. The creed and mantra of the far-Left is Totalitarianism: i.e. complete and total control over every aspect of your lives.

    9. Of course they did. The BBC are simply complying with their brief, as being the expensively remunerated public mouthpiece of their controllers, the WEF.

      When Soros and Schwab et al pull the strings, Davie dances his stupid little jig to their tune.

  42. Taking to Instagram to share his thoughts, Baron Cohen said the attack had occurred amid rising levels of antisemitism and warned it was 'not a one-off' – as antisemitism advocates said today that 'extremism and incitement have been allowed to grow' in the UK.

    Sacha Baron Cohen says synagogue attack is 'part of the biggest surge in hatred of Jews since the Nazis'.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15161507/Sacha-Baron-Cohen-synagogue-attack-biggest-hatred-Nazis.html

    There is just one single reason for the huge rise in antisemitism in the West and particularly in the UK.

    The Religion of Peace.

    1. It's mostly because muslim feels emboldened. They've a pandering, hard Left, Jew hating government and are kicking off.

      The solution is brutality – economic, social legal. Make their lives so difficult they want to leave.

      1. If benefits were cut across the board, I am sure the reduction would affect them disproportionately.

        1. Lovely saying that just tips easily off the tongue. It’s a good job we got rid of those pesky inches and miles.

    1. They are a curious bunch, the locals in Gävle [pron: 'Yev-leh']. A Christmas tradition in Sweden is to display a wicker-work goat. In Gävle an enormous one is made and erected in the town each Advent.

      Of late, local yobs have decided it would be fun to burn it down.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gävle_goat

    2. Excellent! "How low can they go" – well, on current form, it's hard to say but I suspect Labour will go even lower!

    3. Strange that it was cut just before the chosen BBC audience burst into rapturous applause. Must have been so loud it broke the sound system. What a pity!

  47. A post on Tom's site summarising Konstanton Kisin observations.

    Peace Plan involves:

    Immediate end to war..
    Gradual withdrawal of IDF..
    Release of over 2000 mentals..
    in exchange for 20 Israelis hostages..
    Delivery of aid..
    Reopening of the Rafa crossing..
    Non Israeli Non Hamas administration of Gaza..
    Economic development package..
    Non displacement of Pallys..
    No annexation..
    No occupation..
    .. and mediation between Israel & Palestinians..

    Deadly silence from Owen Jones & Lefties.
    Summary: Lefties & Mentals never wanted peace in the first place.

    Lastly..
    First time an urban war has been exposed to a delicate effeminate progressive in real time on a smart phone. War is terrible. This is Jihad in real time. Be careful what you support. Be careful what you wish for.

    1. …and peace is doomed before it starts. Too many in both Gaza and the West Bank area are committed to the destruction of Israel by any and all means. They might sign up to the plan to avoid Trump carpet bombing them, but attacks on Israelis will continue.

    1. 'I've the only fully tiled library in Surbiton'.

      A magnificent line remembered to this day.

      1. What is CDWM?!?!? – Oops, have just noticed the title at the top – Come Dine With Me.

      2. What is CDWM?!?!? – Oops, have just noticed the title at the top – Come Dine With Me.

  49. It is the Warqueen's birthday and a steady stream of kit is arriving. Lighting rigs and stands, a fancy camera I doubt she knew how to operate, a computer, of all things.

    I've given up pretending I don't know what she's doing as despite her cunning she's just not that cunning – and she asked me to put a screen capture card in her computer.

    I know she kept some clients back for herself and some of her accounting people moved specifically because she managed their account. Hell, I can't really complain. Our family/savings account has a consistent bundle more in it each month.

    2. The mind boggles, your household must be like a world of adventure. I might have missed it, but for the ignorant, what is she doing!

  50. Palestine Action supporters march on London despite terror attack
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/04/pro-palestine-protests-london-manchester-antisemitism/

    BTL

    Christians can live peacefully side by side with Jews.

    Jews can live peacefully side by side with Christians.

    But it seems that many Muslims cannot and do not want to live peacefully side by side with either Christians or Jews which is why they have their obscene hatred marches each week.

    If we got rid of all the Christians there would still be the trouble between the Jews and the Muslims.

    If we got rid of all the Jews there would still be the problem between the Christians and the Muslims.

    So whom should we get rid of?

    1. You know the answer, Mr T…..just been reading Matt Goodwin's blog (foc), on form today.

    2. If you got rid of all the Christians and all the Jews the Muslims would turn on each other. The Shia would kill the Ibadi. the Ahmadiyyas would kill the Sunnis and the survivors would kill one another. The Religion of Piss of course. The 72 virgins will have their work cut out keeping up with the demand.

      1. I posted just about the same before I saw yours. It's a religion "frozen" in the middle ages, and I don't think anything can be done about it, as they show no sign of wanting to change.

        2. The set of instructions (the koran) is immutable. It's the word of allah and can't be interpreted. The only solution is to treat it like National Socialism, with which it shares many characteristics (wishing to kill the Untermensch, keeping women confined to bearing children and performing domestic tasks, world domination …).

  51. Afternoon all,

    I'm still trying to get my central and hot watet settings right.
    One disadvantage of getting a heating technician to fix a problem is that all your CH and HW settings are jiggled around and you have put them back where they were.

    I was left with too high a water cylinder temperature because a tap measurement said 55 degC when I had already dropped the cylinder temp to 50 degC.

    I've just dropped cylinder temp today down further to below 50 degC:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/72cdc9e66207d3cb9a071053e515a7e1f57ac691827c6ec853217f9fd16040dc.jpg
    and this is the temperature at the tap soon afterwards:

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    Can you see what's going on?

      1. That is part of what is going on but I can’t allow water at over 50 degC to flow from my thermostatically controlled cylinder to the hot tap in my bathroom sink.

        However I do have the option of either getting Legionnaires disease or suffering from hot water scalding . (i.e. 50 or 60 degC)

    2. I have mine at 50 as well because it is just about usable without adding cold. I have not suffered any nasty conditions either.

  52. Afternoon all,

    I'm still trying to get my central and hot watet settings right.
    One disadvantage of getting a heating technician to fix a problem is that all your CH and HW settings are jiggled around and you have put them back where they were.

    I was left with too high a water cylinder temperature because a tap measurement said 55 degC when I had already dropped the cylinder temp to 50 degC.

    I've just dropped cylinder temp today down further to below 50 degC:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/72cdc9e66207d3cb9a071053e515a7e1f57ac691827c6ec853217f9fd16040dc.jpg
    and this is the temperature at the tap soon afterwards:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/64a6eedc38b79488b061a9e290846084c1ae9572d8fa7f99ba6bf655378d70eb.jpg
    Can you see what's going on?

    1. Wish there was a summary.

      Anyhow.. Starkey is on the case..

      "I am heavily involved in a group namely The Prosperity Institute and work of its remarkable young Director of Legislative Affairs Amarjeet Johal effectively preparing the legislative programme that Nigel or any incoming government of The Right will need to sweep away the whole terrible Blairite state that has actually stopped even the heir of Blair our present prime minister Keir Starmer of doing anything at all.
      "Fundamental change has to go through the machinery of parliament.
      Nigel has shown himself astonishingly indifferent to parliament. He's rarely there. He's shown no desire to use his seat in the House to acquire experience.
      "Equally isn't there a problem. He's never been happy to work with anyone serious.
      "The incoming government will have to do more radical and more difficult things in the face of uniform opposition from The Blob, from The Lords, from the academic establishment, from the legal establishment.
      "That demands a team of weighty serious people. I see no sign of it.

      David Starkey

      1. Summery. Farage had better get his ducks in a row. Identify the bureaucrats and officials who will oppose him and have people ready to replace them. Otherwise his term will end up the same way as Trumps first term. Paralyzed by a hostile bureaucracy. I.e the swamp. In order to achieve that he needs to subsume his ego and take on people like Rupert Lowe and Ben Habib and others that will help him achieve his goals. If he fails to do all that, he will fail.

        1. That is one of the doubts I harbour about Farage. Will he have the grit – and the team – to overcome Whitehall? It's relentless slog against passive resistance and often downright dumb insolence.
          Secondly, he does seem to have a problem with tall poppies. Does he delegate?

          1. Your most important sentence there is: Does he delegate?" The answer is no or, at least, I have seen no sign of it. That spells disaster. My hope is that somehow he is removed and either Rupert or Ben takes over. Of course, someone else might come along from within Reform before it becomes a real problem but I have my doubts.

          2. I fear the same end will apply to Kruger. Farage will detect that Kruger has good ideas and has become popular with Reform members – and that will be that.

        2. The good news is that five days after Starkey said those words on his podcast.. Farage, at a conference, used these exact same words:
          "I expect to face uniform opposition from The Blob, from The Lords, from the academic establishment, from the legal establishment."

          I reckon the message got through. Starkey has said he is in conversation with Farage.

      2. I agree with Starkey. I think that Farage is a disaster in the making. A huge tragedy for Britain and its people.

  55. II've just arrived at the VSC.
    smooth journey up on the Oxford Tube although I'm not sure what's going on – there was scarcely an empty space in the carpark. Maybe the whole* of Oxford has mobilised itself to the anti-Jew marching.

    Edit * except for me!

      1. How do you know about that? Are you a member? You don't mention your time in the armed forces!

        1. As you know my neighbours are ex-Navy. They are allowed to sign in guests.

          I get invited to all sorts of military celebrations. Including Mess dinners.

          The most memorable was on HMS Victory. Though they no longer allow those.

    1. Quite the opposite. Some foul mouthed white man slagging off the peace-loving slammers – I suggest.

      1. If it had been, the media would be broadcasting such everywhere, making desperate hay of how evil white people are to muslim to excuse their murdering Jews.

        They'd never pass up a chance.

        1. It all arises from the beeboid who "infiltrated" Charing Cross Perlice Station for their propaganda programme "Panorama".

      2. Reminds me of Arthur Scargill. Someone with a cast iron message delivered like a hitlerian rant.

        1. Perhaps you would sound pissed off too if the state had been going out of its way to persecute and even attempt to kill you. And your choice of people to compare him with is just plain defamatory and quite uncalled for.

      3. Evidently some very important people enjoy it. The Israeli government has invited him to visit this month in order to speak there. And I don't think a million+ people would have turned up in London for the Unit the Kingdom if it wasn't for him.

  59. The number of children in England suspected of being abused, starved and abandoned because of witchcraft, sorcery and black magic beliefs has surged to its highest level on record. Official figures show 2,180 children were identified as potential victims of abuse linked to faith or belief last year. Councils receive around 1,700 referrals to children’s social care services every day. The Local Government Association described the figures of suspected faith-based abuse as 'deeply worrying' .

    Now what possible faith-based communities could that be? Let me think? No! Can't think which ones. Give me a clue.

    1. Approx 620,000 referrals per year and only 2,180 identified as victims. Something being covered up perhaps?

      1. I suspect a very significant number of the referrals are coming from schools and NHS services, covering their backsides.

      2. Many referrals will not be linked to faith or belief. Abuse and neglect can arise from a variety of circumstances.

        1. And many referral may be, but are covered up. How many FGM prosecutions have there been – we know they exist.

          1. I've no idea, but substance abuse, gambling, disabilities, whether of parent or child, lax or excessive discipline will be amongst the factors which contribute to referrals. Let's not forget that some referrals will be due malice or spite on the part of warring parents, other family members or neighbours, fabricating stories out of hatred or revenge.

          2. That is of course true, but it doesn't detract from the fact that there are many abuses due to third-world superstition and practises, which should not occur in this country (they should not occur at all, but we are talking about this country).

            It is just more likely that people from such countries will cover up abuses, in the same way that other people from third world countries cover up rapists within their families. It's their culture, and has no place here..

    2. I saw that. So now ‘they’ are trying to make us all feel sorry for these foreign-family-cultures children.

      Sorry but I’m still feeling sorry for all the white girls raped, abused and prostituted in GB. Where, evidently some social services personnel and the police hid everything away because ‘they were afraid of being thought racist’.

      IIRC, Jacquie Smith, the then Home Secretary, said it was a lifestyle choice! And told the police not to do anything about it.

      1. While she sat back to watch the porn videos she had bought for her husband charging it to her parliamentary expenses.

  60. How has it come to this – GB, a Christian country is witnessing near civil war between two foreign groups.

    The only solution as far as I can see is that anyone living in any country in the world who's family has lived there for fewer than three generations should all move around returning to the countries which espouse their cultures' traditions. (That includes Brits coming back to Blighty too)

    We will reallocate our welfare bill towards helping the less fortunate via increased foreign aid.

    Let me know if the Govts of the world sign up to this and I'll sell my shares in dinghies and buy some on boats and aeroplanes instead 😉

    1. It has come to this because the country has no Boadicea, Wat Tyler, Robert Kett, George Loveless, Robert of Locksley, Francis Drake, Winston Churchill or Margaret Thatcher.

      Just 60 million + spineless, undisciplined wimps who can do nothing but whinge.

      1. That's a bit strong Grizzly , but you just could be right .

        What has happened is that the older generation who fought in the WW2 then who had children like you and I , well our generation who just cracked on with growing up , then employment , a bit more money at our fingertips , and then put our X in the box without questioning our politicians and putting them on the rack for their bad mistakes .. and sadly the many who were wowed by the likes of Tony Blair !!

        Gawd , several post war generations lost wisdom and forethought , and discipline .. were previous generations of our parent era wastrels and drugged up imbeciles. ?. I don't think so somehow .

        Did the great depression of the 1930's cause disruptions in society .. I don't think people were feeble then , were they ?

        1. My parents were both teens during WW2. Dad ended up in Java, only returned to Blighty because my mother wouldn't join him on her father's advice. Dad said he came home to the same situation pre-war…no jobs, no prospect of one for some time. He thought army life was great 'until the ****** war came along'. Own bed, three square meals, plenty swimming etc. He wasn't feeble, I found his papers, medals after he died – never knew him to speak of the war except to his buddies/relatives who'd also served, when all in drink 🙂

          1. No generation was 'feeble' prior to the 1960s, lionhearts everywhere. Unfortunately, a complete absence of discipline has enfeebled every generation since those stalwart times.

          2. Sorry late reply, Grizzly…no comms for hours due to storms. I hear you, fortunately a few of us left, passing it on to offspring 🙂

        2. The main point I am trying to make, Maggie, is that historically there were strong people who rose up to fight injustices or defend the realm. Now, while I accept that a lot of those who fought against injustices by marching on parliament, etc, lost out to the superior forces of the state; we at least had politicians who remembered that their prime remit was to protect the country and its citizens against outside malign influences (the Armada, Nazis etc). Where are those types today.

          Today’s politicians are fighting against those who voted them into power in favour of insurgents with an avowed intent to take over! The rest of the country moan about it, but ‘Tommy Robinson’, despite his best intentions, is no Guy Fawkes. Marching and demonstrating have no effect whatsoever on changing government policy. A (metaphorical) pitchfork, or seven million, up their arses might just do that.

          1. The major problem we have is that the Muslims and their sympathisers will march and be violent in huge numbers, where "our" citizens won't, so naturally the PTB kowtow to the Muslims.

        3. The problem, I feel, with the post war years, Maggie, is that people were trusting. I know I was. I expected politicians to be working for the good of the country. It was a nasty shock when I found out the reality of it all.

          1. I remember how disappointed, disgusted and furious I felt when I discovered that local councillors were corrupt donkeys years ago. And it’s gone rapidly downhill since then.

        1. Indeed I did. I read between the lines. I saw there were no foot soldiers to recruit to the cause. I'm no one man army. 😲

    3. I have no desire to go back to Britain and take that sort of cut in my standard of living – or standard of healthcare.

    1. Evening, Sue.

      I've spent the last 36 hours 'processing' the news re Doolally. The news coincides with my, er, retirement.

      I've weighed up my options. I've not only been an organist for 54 years, but much of my social life has revolved around my church activities.

      Faced with a blank slate, I was torn between Guildford Cathedral, and St Nicolas, Guildford. Then came yesterday's news. I'm not against female clergy, but in my experience, those who were elected were a good advert against the experiment.

      In all those years, the nearest interaction I've had with any ABC, was a couple of years ago. We inducted a couple of lay pastoral assinsants. One was the Rector's wife, who is now proceeding towards ordination. The other was an Amercan lady, steeped in Holy Trinity Brompton stuff. She's related to Welby, and one of his sons attended the service. I had a conversation with him afterwards. He was perfectly fine, but I was left with the impression that at least one of his siblings "had 'elf ishoos". So I have rather more sympthy for Welby than would otherwise have been the case. Still think he was the wrong man for the job, though.

      Following yesterrday's news, I re-evaluated my position. I've gone from a few years of "stuff the CofE" to "give her a chance".

      I don't think Doolally is the sharpest tool in the box. But, at least, she's not the Bishop of Dover…

      Meanwhile, my "nearest" church outside my old parish is St Nicolas, Guildford. As close to Guildford Station as I am to Wanborough Station. Eight minutes' walk in total. But. I just watched last Sunday's Mass on YouTube. I don't mind High Anglican stuff, on balance. But this was higher than any RC service I've attended. Great music, although the clergy (and some of the "professional" choir) seemed tone deaf.

      Decision made – I'll attend the Cathedral at 09:45 in the morning. I've heard good things about the new Dean – apparently a sound Northern chap (like me?). Since the powers that be decided to build the Cathedral on the peak of a bloody mountain, I'll take a taxi from the station, and walk back, since that's downhill.

      Watch this space.

  63. Bugger me, it's raining again. Stopped for two minutes, enough for me to think that maybe I'll go out and try to progress the garden, then…
    Sigh.

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    1. Well done. Double bogey today.

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  70. Been watching GB News reporters trying to interact with the Palestine protestors in London.
    They look just like the Just Stop Oil protesters, they have that same blank expression too.
    Are these people just paid to do this sort of thing? groupthink influencers that all work for the same organization to promote issues that the state wants to indoctrinate us with and give them the excuse to act with very little public support

    1. Gordon Bennett! What a ghastly creature!
      Edit No great surprise! Just found out his father is Charlie Falconer, that lovely friend of Bliars!

  72. That's me for this wet and very windy and inhospitable day.

    One hopes for better tomorrow – though I doubt it. Have a jolly evening. If you can.

    A demain.

  73. Assuming there is a financial penalty available, the pro-Palestine supporters should all be fined the maximum amount.
    It might cover the cost of policing.
    If they refuse to pay ensure that they go to prisons that are jam-packed with Muslims, particularly if they are LGBTQXYZers.

      1. I'm loathe to post the extracts because of the length.
        Do you ever refresh the page? I ask because my adblock sometimes stops access but if I refresh the free articles appear.
        Any way:

        As the Israeli armoured personnel carrier clatters across Gaza, the only glimpse I get of the decimated hellscape outside comes through two tiny video screens.

        Everything is flattened; everything destroyed. So many buildings have been levelled in this bloody war that vast mounds of pulverized concrete litter the landscape and mix in the Mediterranean breeze with grit, dirt and filth.

        It seeps into every crevice, penetrating even the IDF vehicle's armour, and clings to the throat leaving me choking and gasping for air.
        But I don't have time to catch my breath – we have arrived. The armour-plated rear hatch yawns open and I now see Gaza City with my own eyes.

        I am one of a handful of journalists allowed into the Strip's capital for the first time since Israel launched its ground offensive in September.

        We are here, embedded with the military, principally because the IDF discovered the entrance to a 1.5km tunnel and weapons manufacturing factory within the Jordanian Hospital and wish to show it to the world's media before destroying it.

        It is tunnels like this – forming part of an underground labyrinth which stretches for longer than the London tube network – that the Israeli government say is in large part why so much of Gaza has been reduced to dust.

        How else, they say, can they root out such a cynical foe which hides within civilian infrastructure, attacking them at any time from above and below ground, before slipping away? Some 1,000 Israeli soldiers have been killed since October 7, 2023.
        Much of the world argues that with tens of thousands of Palestinians dead, around two million displaced and nearly no building left unscathed, there must be another way.

        Here though, on the ground, such debate feels painfully academic.

        While the world holds its breath following Hamas's positive response to Donald Trump's proposal to end the war, in Gaza City every day it is still life and death.

        If barely 30 minutes ago I was in Israel, now, after first being whisked into the enclave in a Humvee before switching into the APC, I am on another planet.

        We are told to head to a building a few hundred yards from us, and sharply – for the bombed-out high rises surrounding us may be teeming with Hamas snipers.

        Just the day before two terrorists armed with RPG's breached this zone. They were shot dead. And two weeks prior a member of the 36th Battalion which is escorting us was killed within 500 metres of where we stand.

        I walk briskly across the open ground, reaching what appeared to be one of the many abandoned apartment blocks in this city which was once home to over half a million.

        Balaclava-clad special forces appear and haul me across the rubble inside with them. 'Up! Up! Up!' they yell, urging us to ascend the stairs away from the exposed entrance.
        In the debris, I see the forgotten items of those who once lived here. A hairbrush. A rollerskate. A little sports jumper.

        We are ordered up. I mount two flights of stairs, panting under the weight of our body armour and stifling heat.

        Suddenly all around me are masked men. At least 50. All special forces, here to protect us. TV screens and monitors surround us.

        As I gather my bearings, I am drawn to the room next door. I look up and on the ceiling is the only relic of those who lived here before. A large pink butterfly stretching across the ceiling.

        What is now a bullet-ridden shell was once a little girl's room, I think.

        I wonder where she is now. Is she safe? I want to cry and scream with anger at how the war Hamas sparked has destroyed the lives of so many ordinary people. So many children are missing – or dead.

        'Stay away from the window,' I am told. 'There are snipers.' I step back.

        We are shown the view of the Jordanian Hospital, the subject of our visit, which until recently was one of just two functioning hospitals in Gaza City, say the IDF.
        It is too dangerous for us to go in person, so a drone is sent in from our position to show us the tunnel shaft.

        'This is a civilian hospital that Hamas used during the war, knowing we won't attack,' a security official, who cannot be named, tells us. 'They were inside with the Jordanians until last week.'

        He estimates that there are just a few thousand terrorists left in Gaza City and that they are recruiting youngsters to fill their ranks.

        'Hamas has now moved north and south with their families,' he says. 'Our challenge now is the snipers and IEDS [Improvised Explosive Devices], RPG and long range rockets.'

        The drone is sent in. As it takes to the sky, in the corner of the screen there is the unmistakable outline of people moving between buildings.

        Some of the 200,000 who, unbelievably, have ignored the evacuation orders and stayed in this deserted wasteland.

        The UAV flies past them and we watch in real time on two screens as it descends into the hospital. On another screen we are shown army footage deep inside the tunnel which, we are told, leads to a factory used for research and development of precision missiles.

        Released hostages have reported Hamas hid them inside hospitals just like this.
        I ask if any have been held there and am told they have not been able to ascertain that yet.

        'One of the main reasons we are here is for the hostages,' a security official tells me. 'Six of them are my soldiers in the 36th division. It's one of our goals to bring them back.'

        It haunts me to think how close we are to the 48 hostages. Twenty of them are still alive, held somewhere in this city after two years of unimaginable torture. Could I be walking above their heads right now?

        We are lowered back down the apartment and move swiftly back into the APC which rumbles out of Gaza City.

        As I am jostled back across the border in the Humvee, my mind is cast back to the images, almost exactly two years ago, of the hostages being dragged across this very fence and in so doing sparking this bloody conflict. I pray there is a deal soon to end this misery.

        The thought of them underneath me today, and of that little girl with the butterfly bedroom, cling to me like the Gaza dust in my hair, on my clothes, and in my throat.

  75. A pensioner drove his brand new BMW to 100 mph, looking in his rear view mirror, he saw a police car behind him.
    He floored it to 140, 150, 160… Suddenly he thought “I'm too old for this nonsense!"
    So, he pulled over to the side of the road and waited for the police car to catch up with him.
    The officer walked up to him, looked at his watch and said:
    "Sir, my shift ends in ten minutes. Today is Friday and I'm taking off for the weekend with my family. If you can give me a good reason that I've never heard before, why you were speeding… I'll let you go."
    The Man looked very seriously at the police man, and replied:
    "Years ago, my wife ran off with a policeman, I thought you were bringing her back." !!!
    The Cop left saying,
    "Have a good day, Sir"…

  76. Back home at last after a weekend from Hell! Remind me never to book a night in the motorhome after 30th September! I missed the turning for the campsite and had to detour miles to get back (satnav instructions weren't clear), they parked me on a weird pitch miles from the loos while the rain lashed down and the wind was strong enough to blow me over (I'm sure I mentioned when I booked that I had a blue badge). I logged in to the internet but couldn't get any pages (it kept dropping out anyway) and the data on my phone ran out. You weren't supposed to "exercise" your dogs on site except in the dog exercise area (unfortunately, nobody mentioned where this was and there were no signs). Didn't get much sleep because the wind was rocking the van and the rain was so loud. When I got to Haddon Hall, I had to pay for my parking despite my entry being free because I'm a member of the Historic Houses Trust. The parking was a good 400 yards from the entrance (and my satnav sent me the wrong way at first, but that, apparently is a common thing because there was a notice saying "no access to Haddon Hall, ignore satnav instructions"). No dogs were allowed in the grounds (but I knew that so Winston was put in his crate). He was so stressed that he ripped up anything he could get his teeth on (fortunately, nothing of value), despite having been given a calming pill and Pet Remedy being sprayed around (and on him). Because the phone was out of data, I didn't take it with me, but I charged up my camera and took that. I took two photos and it said, "empty battery", so clearly that's for the bin. If that weren't enough, when I got home, I lost my balance in the kitchen and fell over (I hadn't had anything to drink) and when I put my meal in the oven, the gas ran out and I had to change the cylinders over, making having something to eat even later. I went to see an exhibition of superstition in Elizabethan England, would you believe! I should imagine being Jewish feels rather akin to being white, straight and indigenous, but with added venom.

    1. Oh and one more thing – I thought I'd fill a hot water bottle to ease my back, but the damn thing had perished and leaked!

    2. Gosh. In a month you'll look back and larf – but my sympathies with you just now.

      1. To be honest, Bill, I think in a month's time, I'll still be wondering why on earth I did it!

      1. They couldn't wait to leap out of the van and rush into the garden! I didn't even need to put a lead on them! They are sprawled on their blankets now, fast asleep. East, west, home is definitely best!

      1. Yesterday and today. It's why I was AWOL with no internet. I was only a stone's throw from Bob of Bonsall, but no means of getting in touch.

        1. Probably as well, would you really want to spend your weekend shifting blocks and cement?

        2. You could have found Bob by driving into Bonsal and looking for a garden with rubble stone-faced retaining walls up a steep bank at in the hollow of a steep approach. Probably close to the famous Mills.

          1. If I'd found the Via Gellia I would have gone past his place, but by this time, I was so fed up with the way things had been going wrong, I just drove straight home. Even that, wasn't as straightforward as might have been expected because I went uphill and downdale and the bottoms were flooded.

          2. You'd have at least gotten a mug of tea and a bite to eat!
            Perhaps one of my Egg Banjo Supremes.

          3. You have my every sympathy. I have experienced some rotten journeys myself. During 1987 when the trees in nearby Kensington Gardens were decimated (I was working in South Kensngton) then similar in 1989 when it took me many hours to get home from Tonbridge to Cambridge avoiding closed roads and high sided vehicles on their sides but via the office in Seymour Street where the cars parked in the adjacent “Tony Blair Square” had lost limbs and wrecked most of the cars parked there. I almost forgot to mention the “wrong type of snow” episode where it took me over 12 hours to get to Cambridge from Seymour Street.

            There are others, mostly travelling alone in Eastern Europe.

        3. You could have found Bob by driving into Bonsal and looking for a garden with rubble stone-faced retaining walls up a steep bank at in the hollow of a steep approach. Probably close to the famous Mills.

    5. Blimey, Conway! What a horrible experience! Glad you and the doggies had each other for company!

      1. Think bad all round N.England/S.Scotland, very heavy rains, and not over yet…many roads flooded.

      2. No, thankfully. I'm back for church tomorrow. I only went up to see the exhibition at Haddon Hall. In future, I'll leave the dogs at home and drive up and back in one day if it's no farther than that (50 odd miles). It's just that it's 30mph (with lots of speed cameras) most of the way, so it takes a long time and I fancied taking it easy with no rush. The best laid plans …

  77. Собирайте чемоданы, мистер Кейси, мы на войне.

    French hospitals on a war footing & Starmer has just invested millions in mass fatality tents as cheap morgues.
    Peter Hitchens says keep an eye on Nigel Casey MVO CMG leaving Moscow. If so he believes the psychopaths in charge will have privately declared war on Russia without telling us.

    1. Who is going to fight for Starmer, Macron , von der Leyen and Mercxx? We all despise them and I am too old for starters.

      We do not need a ‘Churchill’ in the form of Zelensky but a civilised leader such as Putin.

    2. Who is going to fight for Starmer, Macron , von der Leyen and Mercxx? We all despise them and I am too old for starters.

      We do not need a ‘Churchill’ in the form of Zelensky but a civilised leader such as Putin.

    1. It's an open goal.. and I'm taking it..

      "We've had free speech for a very, very long time in the United Kingdom and it will last for a very, very long time,"
      Keir Starmer has criticized those “spreading lies and misinformation” about child sex grooming gangs..
      Labour would retain the Winter Fuel Payment and keep the £86,000 cap on social care costs.
      He pledged not to raise taxes on “working people”..
      Smash the gangs..
      Too many
      .
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e0ef01577e7baa6d6306de531a75c0ec60c1306ae53e3c91b54c87d2795048c6.jpg

    2. Give a man a fish and you'll feed him for a day
      Teach a bitch to fish and she'll destroy your fish stocks?

    1. Starmer and company are doing every possible thing to annoy us all. Either that or else they are just thick. These senseless and provocative actions will come back to bite them.

      And I thought funding Lesbianism in Lesotho was an April Fools joke in the seventies since which we famously funded the Ethiopian Spicegirls.

      Jesus wept!

    1. "And I say to my menfolk: 'rape, rape and rape again' and when you've finished, praise Allah for giving you the kuffar"

    3. Bide your time.. read your Koran.. get good jobs.. enter the offices of the state the caliphate will come.

      "Enough. Too many. No more. They have to go."
      Connor Tomlinson

    4. Bide your time.. read your Koran.. get good jobs.. enter the offices of the state the caliphate will come.

      "Enough. Too many. No more. They have to go."
      Connor Tomlinson

    1. I do recall militant unions & Stu Grant types demanding the UK to join the Warsaw Pact.

      1. The stupid union leaders in the '60's and '70's used to rave about the wonderful Soviet workers' paradise. Little did they know that if it had succeeded in taking over Britain, those same "leaders" woul have been among the first up against a wall, enjoying their last cigarette.

  83. Ha ha ha.
    Nice to see Liverpool on the receiving end of a very, very late extra time goal.

      1. YES!

        I sometimes wonder why so many decisive goals get scored after the 90 minutes.

        Is it because referees feel bullied; or betting syndicates have corrupted the game, or it's genuine?

        It strikes me that home teams winning in extra time as often as they do is outside statistical probability.

        But hey ho, I'm a sceptical cynic, as you know.

        And I also accept that "my" team has benefitted too.

      2. Why are those running football too stupid to implement a clock like they do in rugby? The clock is stopped for all stoppages in play and the match finishes when the clock reaches 80 minutes (90 in football).

        Such a system would stop all this 'extra time' idiocy.

  84. Thought for the day.
    Wouldn't it be nice if we could persuade the Israelis to allow all the ally-pally supporters to be deported to Gaza to rebuild it.

          1. "We of the IDF have the greatest of pleasure in giving you Greta Thunberg as a negotiating tool to do with as you please.
            All we ask is that we don't have to take her back"

        2. The allegation was corroborated by at least two other members of the flotilla..

          Very same dingbats who let off a flare then proceeded to tell the world in hysterical fashion they had been attacked by drones.

          Did Greta tell you how she was handcuffed and waterboarded.

          Greta Thunberg has been mocked for appearing to fake being handcuffed upon her arrival to France.

    1. But it works very well. I drive through it every other weekend or so – if you know what you're doing it makes perfect sense and runs very smoothly.

        1. Just think of it as 5 separate roundabouts in a circle and all becomes clear. There is another one in Hemel Hempstead.

  88. And, after a day of heavy rain and bright sunny spells, that's me off to bed!
    Imagine, looking out of the sitting room window, seeing it fine enough to get a bit done outside but, by the time I'd dropped my mug off beside the kettle and put my wellies on, it was bloody chucking it down!

    Anyway, goodnight all.

      1. It came over very black just after I hung the washing out, but it stayed dry. Not very warm though. Washing dried ok as it was quite windy.

    2. Good night Bob .

      Sleep well, and rest up , gather your strength for your next task .

      Very gusty here , showers , noisy and temperature down a bit to 12c

  91. Spare us your 'shock': Manchester was bound to happen

    The attack on Yom Kippur was neither a surprise nor a warning, it is simply the way things are now for Jews in Britain

    ZOE STRIMPEL
    4th October 2025

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/45a3d8ba1970bfbdc7992417bff752fcc83ce4c59fbdf8f3d26ad063865fea9e.png
    A week ago, I sat in a large crowd at a synagogue in North London to listen to Yossi Cohen, the former director of the Mossad, speak about his new memoir, The Sword of Freedom. Among countless other operations of staggering scope and ingenuity, Cohen led preparations for the walkie-talkie attack that wiped out Hezbollah's top brass. He understands risk and threat like nobody else.

    At one point, while explaining the blunders that failed to prevent October 7, he asked the host if there were any known and specific threats to the gathered crowd that evening. The answer appeared to be no. And yet, Cohen pointed out, there was robust security in place – several people in hi-vis checking names and bags, in and outside the gates.

    There is always a risk with Jewish gatherings, and in the absence of intelligence spelling out a clear and specific threat, you'd better prepare for the worst just in case you've missed something. Israel failed to do this prior to October 7, and so on the day, 6,000 Gazan terrorists on motorbikes and paragliders were able to overwhelm the defences of the most sophisticated security system the world has ever known.

    But for European Jews, a sense of unease and threat every time we enter a Jewish building is part of life. And there is always insufficient intel: which is why Jews are still stabbed, shot or blown up in synagogues from Paris to Pittsburgh, shopping in kosher supermarkets, or while simply existing in the Jewish state.

    I thought about Cohen's remarks on Thursday, the Jewish day of atonement, Yom Kippur, after the Syrian-born terrorist Jihad Al-Shamie rammed his car into the congregants entering the Heaton Park synagogue in Manchester, before getting out and stabbing everyone he could, then stabbing at the windows of the shul trying to get in, before being shot dead.

    It is perhaps not rocket science that giving citizenship to a person called Jihad could backfire, but at any rate Jihad Al-Shamie had not been on the radar of the security services, nor Prevent.

    Still, he was far from a surprise, and there are many, many like him in Western countries, let in, given citizenship, given benefits and protected with our rights. He and many like him – including those in the Islamo-Leftist, pro-Palestine movement – are the risk, the threat, that hovers over Jews in Britain, Europe, Australia, Canada, and now America. It used to be neo-Nazis and skinheads, but now it is they that are the reason we have security in front of our schools, nurseries, cultural centres, and shuls.

    And instead of being fought one by one on the beaches, in the fields and streets – as Churchill would have wanted – they are instead emboldened, encouraged, and protected by police, Whitehall, city mayors and a Westminster who have been brainwashed into insisting it's actually the threat of Islamophobia, and the cause of the Palestinians and their terrorist sympathisers, that merit real concern. We have seen again and again since October 7 how "free speech" rights are suddenly to be defended when young people cry out and chant in favour of Hamas.

    The aftermath of the attack was surreal for many of us. The usual drivel about feelings of sadness and shock, and how we wouldn't let our "unity" be disrupted by those "seeking to sow division" spewed out on automatic pilot from officials and Very Important People. Decent-hearted non-Jews poured out expressions of shock; the term "heart-broken".

    Surprised? Really? Never mind planets: what universe are people in? Shocked? Saddened? When just hours after the attack, some of the most gleeful so far of the "Gaza" mass marches took place all over the UK, with Parliament Square and Liverpool Street full of the triumphant waving of the Palestinian flag as Jews trembled and washed the blood of their brethren from the street?

    Surprised? When these are declared the "peaceful" type of protests people like me have been told to shut up about for two years?

    Surprised? When for the swathes of the media and Lefties, the biggest agenda item on Thursday wasn't the Jew-murdering Islamists in our midst, to whose ambitions we remain utterly wilfully blind, but the "illegality" of Israel in intercepting Greta Thunberg, the ghoul of our times, and escorting its occupants to Israel?

    When radio panels lined up a variety of "voices" on Thursday night itself to treat the Islamist murder of Jews as an occasion to bash Israel? When British rappers Bob Vylan can lead chants, with impunity, of "Death to the IDF" while performing at Glastonbury, and just last month said: "F–k the Zionists! Get out there and fight them! Get out there and meet them in the street"? (Bob Vylan is due to perform at the Manchester Academy on November 5). When Irish rappers Kneecap can deck themselves in the Hezbollah flag?

    Surprised? When just a week or so ago, Hamas was literally congratulating the utter fool Starmer for recognising a Palestinian state, along with France, Canada and Australia? And it is all parcelled up in the lies the Government have permitted to stick and become enshrined, such as that Israel is committing genocide, that it is doing so in part thanks to Netanyahu's political greed, and that secret Israeli policy is to wipe out Palestinians and colonise all that remains of "their" land. All this is false. And it is a license to kill Jews. Surprised?

    So no, the attack in Manchester was neither a surprise nor, in fact, a warning. It is simply the way things are now. How else could they be? Even in the most respectable, educated chambers of British culture there is a vocal, unashamed belief that Israel is perpetually, craftily up to no good, that everything that happens to Jews, in Palestinians' name, has "two sides" to it. Even terrorist murder.

    I was invited onto the radio on Thursday evening to discuss with "a historian of Palestinian people" the apparently debate-worthy matter of the car-ramming and stabbing of Jews outside a synagogue. This spoke volumes. After two years of appearing on such panels – and don't get me wrong, I'm grateful to be invited – I know all too well how Jews and Israel are kicked around as a debate topic even at the most sensitive moments.

    It's as if to the producers and presenters and panellists there are no humans attached; as if real Jews, and real Israelis, real descendants of pogroms and the Holocaust and ghettos, persecution, scapegoating, violence and murder, just don't exist as people, as if we, and Israel, do it all for fun.

    On Tuesday night, the start of Yom Kippur, I went to a Kol Nidre service; Kol Nidre is the somewhat legalistic opening conversation with God that ushers in the day of atonement. The sermon was memorable and persuasive: the rabbi demanded that we stop using the "strident discourse" of aggression and hostility that has come to define debate in the present day. That we, as Jews, must play our role in using less "violent" language – because, as the rabbi said, violent language begets real violence.

    I thought about what he said, and the language I use. There was much wisdom in what he said. But there is sometimes an important difference between temperate language and truth – and though it is commonplace for the wise to advise nuance and grey areas and contemplation and precision, matters of life and death, terror and its glorification, are not the domains of nuance. Black and white, us and them language has its place, and it is here, and now.

    To be sure such language is also used by the criminal Jew-haters, the Islamists and Islamo-leftists, to incite violence and terror – and they should be locked up for doing so. But for us Jews, at this time, such language has never been more important. We must used it to name the problem with clarity and not let up till the lessons are learned.

    Crucially, it is not our words that lead to terror, murder and complicity and brainwashing. It's our words, and the actions those words bring into being, that will be integral to the fight against those things.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/04/spare-us-your-shock-manchester-was-bound-to-happen

    2. NO one envisaged the idiotic politicians importing a totally different culture from quarrelsome tribal African and Middle eastern countries , millions of them who especially have an inbuilt dislike of Jews .

      We welcome Jews and their contribution to our culture and society , their creative minds have inspired and enhanced many aspects of our own lives .

      It is wrong , wrong wrong to allow primitive people from a sand hut culture , with paedophile misogynist tendencies to take precedence over white people , it is disgusting and unfair ..

      We are importing a peasant culture , thousand + weekly , they are bankrupting us and taking us back to the stone age , and as we read about their disgusting medieval habits everyday , and their murderous hateful intentions towards us and the Jewish community, I can see this all ending badly .

  92. Many photos in Westminster today:

    Does it really take six members of the MET to restrain and arrest a middle-aged Palestine protestor?

    Perhaps we should introduce modern day 'Stocks' based on a two-wheeled barrow with ankle restraints.

    One fit policeman/ policewoman should be able to cart off an average protestor.

    I'm not sure that Robert Peel would approve of our black-dressed, absurdly over-gadget-carrying officers.

    Bing back the bobbies' Helmet and the Batton!

    1. "I'm not sure that Robert Peel would approve of our black-dressed, absurdly over-gadget-carrying officers."

      Nor would Chief Constable Captain Sir Percy Sillitoe, who used muscular force, to resounding success, in order to successfully smash the razor gangs of Sheffield and Glasgow 100 years ago. His officers did not hold back and Sillitoe even appeared in court to successfully back his officers up.

      Of course, this all happened in far more sensible times.

    1. They keep on telling us exactly what they will do when they are in the majority, yet we keep on burying our heads in the sand.

      1. I read Matt Goodwin's substack where an "expert" on "islamism" proposed solutions to the problem. Well, mate, the first step is to stop calling it "islamism" and start calling it islam, because that's the real problem. The ideology. It's violent and intolerant and it intends what the name tells us – submission.

  95. Shabana Mahmood criticised for ‘never hearing of someone being called Jihad’
    Critics fear Home Secretary’s comments put British Arabs at risk from ‘retaliatory abuse’ following Manchester attack
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/10/04/shabana-mahmood-never-heard-of-name-jihad/?recomm_id=c1727f95-c37a-497b-b945-ce5a7f581ea7
    Andrew Dale
    6 min ago
    How can it be acceptable for the home office to have a Muslim network operating from within the home office?

  96. Daniel Hannan
    For centuries Britain was a bastion against anti-Semitism. Now we have imported it
    There were dark moments, but for good reason Jews felt safer on this island than in continental Europe. Immigration has changed all that

    Daniel Hannan
    04 October 2025 2:10pm BST
    Daniel Hannan
    It’s the fact that it happened in Britain that is so disturbing. We can no longer tell ourselves that this is a safe country, a country that elevates civic order and religious tolerance, a country that leaves anti-Semitism, along with other forms of extremism, to excitable foreigners.

    Until this week, British Jews had been spared the horrors visited on their co-religionists in even our nearest neighbours. France has seen stabbings at a Marseilles synagogue, children shot in a Jewish school in Toulouse, a hostage siege in a kosher supermarket in the Île-de-France, a knife attack on a Jewish community centre in Nice and hundreds of incidents of desecration, intimidation and abuse.

    Belgium has seen a shooting at the Jewish Museum in Brussels, the stoning of buses carrying very young Jewish schoolchildren in Antwerp, assaults on synagogues and the spread of the hideous cry, “Hamas, Hamas, all Jews to the gas!”

    Germany, which last year recorded 4,782 anti-Semitic incidents, gave us an eerie premonition of the Manchester abomination, when two people were killed in a Yom Kippur attack on a synagogue in Halle in 2019. On that occasion, the perpetrator was a neo-Nazi. Two years later, the police managed to foil a similar Yom Kippur attack on a synagogue in Hagen. That time, the perpetrator was an Islamist.

    Britain, until now, was different. Our literature was different. From Walter Scott’s Ivanhoe to George Eliot’s Daniel Deronda, Jewish characters were portrayed with a pathos and positivity that found little echo on the Continent.

    Our political culture was different, from the Old Testament Puritanism that led Oliver Cromwell to invite Jews to return in 1656, to Benjamin Disraeli’s put-down of the Irish Nationalist leader, Daniel O’Connell, in an 1835 Commons debate: “While the ancestors of the Rt Hon Gentleman were brutal savages in an unknown island, mine were priests in the Temple of Solomon.”

    And, of course, our foreign policy was different. Israel would not have come into existence without British sponsorship. The 1917 Balfour Declaration did not emerge out of nowhere. It drew on a long Zionist tradition stretching back to at least (on the Liberal side) Palmerston and (on the Conservative side) Disraeli.

    This story is worth rehearsing, because it is part of who we are as a nation – or, at least, part of who we were until an eye-blink ago.

    Yes, we had our anti-Semites. But, almost uniquely in Europe, they never took over a major party – at least, not until Labour sank into the filthy sump of Corbynism, a degradation that repelled many Labour voters, disgusted at what had happened to the party of Hugh Dalton and Richard Crossman.

    We may not have thought of ourselves as an especially philo-Semitic nation, but our enemies certainly did. The European authoritarians of Left and Right who railed against decadent Anglo-Saxon liberalism were, almost to a man, virulently anti-Jewish.

    Wilhelm Marr, the 19th-century German writer who approvingly coined the word “anti-Semitism” saw us as “Jewish-influenced merchants” whose materialism and capitalism were corrupting Europe. Édouard Drumont, his French contemporary, attacked the British Empire as an instrument of Jewish financial interests. Charles Maurras, the leading intellectual French anti-Semite of the early 20th century, disliked us for all the same reasons that he disliked Jews: we were soulless, selfish, cosmopolitan.

    Until recently, most British people would have applied the positive versions of those words to themselves. They’d have seen themselves as practical, eccentric, tolerant. They’d have been bewildered at the idea of coming to blows over political or religious differences. They’d have taken pride in judging each person as an individual.

    The enormity in Manchester was, of course, committed by someone from outside that tradition. Jihad Al-Shamie was brought here as a young child from Syria (Shamie means “Syrian”). What kind of man names his son Jihad? The kind, it appears, who, in the immediate aftermath of the October 7 atrocities, praises the murderers as “God’s men on Earth” and urges Syrians to “take good care of your weapons and aim them accurately”. Faraj Al-Shamie is a doctor, the pin-up profession for supporters of immigration; but he can hardly be said to have enriched our country.

    What were we playing at, admitting such men? Like the Manchester Arena bombers, Salman and Hashem Abedi, Jihad Al-Shamie was a product of our schools; but he was moved by ancestral voices prophesying war.

    In the aftermath of a terrorist attack, we must not lose sight of the individualism on which our civilisation was built, and which terrorists despise. Just as the worshippers at Heaton Park synagogue were not responsible for whatever outrages in Gaza were upsetting Shamie, so other Muslims are not responsible for Shamie. The idea that we are answerable for our own actions is, or was, the value that most distinguishes Anglosphere societies.

    We are losing that value, not only because we are importing people who have little feel for it, people who have been shaped by cultures of vendetta, tribal identity and sectarian war; but also because we fail to teach it ourselves. Obsessed with identity politics, colonial guilt and anti-racism, we no longer drive into the heads of our children, whether second-generation or seventy-second-generation Britons, that they defined by their behaviour, not by their race.

    Hence the bizarrely woke form that anti-Semitism now takes, infused by grievance, victimhood and anti-imperialism. On October 7, even as the Hamas maniacs were carrying out their murders, Mothin Ali, now Deputy Leader of the Green Party put out a video in which he praised Gaza’s “indigenous people” for “fighting back” against “a settler-colonial power”, which he likened to the white colonisation of the Americas.

    I find it incredible that a second-generation Briton would play with fire like that, encouraging indigenous people to fight the descendants of more recent arrivals. But such is the meme-like power of the decolonise ideology that plenty of others are at it.

    Listen, for example, to Asrar Rashid of the Nottingham Islamic Centre: “The white man wiped out the Maori in New Zealand, the white man carried out genocide against the Aborigines in Australia, he carried out genocide in Canada and the United States of America, and he attempts to carry out genocide in Gaza… Take up arms and defend yourself and do pre-emptive strikes wherever those pre-emptive strikes – which is offensive jihad – is needed.”

    Was Shamie moved by such words? Did he interpret “offensive jihad” as a pre-emptive strike against any Jews? Was an attack on a Manchester synagogue his interpretation of “globalise the intifada”, the cry that goes up at almost every anti-Israel rally?

    Who can say? In any event, Shamie is responsible for his own wickedness. I argued here a couple of weeks ago that we should set a very high threshold for incitement – higher at any rate, than generalised verbal attacks. Kneecap saying that the only good Tory is a dead Tory, Bob Vylan chanting Death to the IDF, George Abaraonye glorying in the murder of Charlie Kirk – these things ought no more to be illegal than Lucy Connolly being happy to see asylum centres burned down, or Graham Linehan wanting to punch trans women in the balls. Free speech means allowing people to say foolish, dangerous and obnoxious things right up to the point where it can be shown that they intend a specific crime to result from their words.

    The flip side of free speech is a culture of orderliness and civility. If we do not want offensive opinions to be punished by law, they need to be policed by social disapprobation. We need to convey, not only in the classroom, but in our wider political and media discourse, that certain British values are non-negotiable, and that these include personal freedom, parliamentary democracy, equality before the law, religious pluralism and respect for the country itself.

    These were the values that encouraged millions of Jews to leave more authoritarian cultures and settle throughout the Anglosphere in the first place; the values that still enrage many of the governments that they had left behind. Lose them, and we lose ourselves.

    TONY moore
    1 hr ago
    Importing hundreds of thousands of people from backward cultures, and with primordial grievances against Christians and Jews, is no accident, it is not incompetent, and it is not 'clueless'.

    It is a colonisation agenda and our mainstream parties are as much our enemy as Putin and Xi. edited

    1. Stop calling him an "islamist"; he was a muslim. Notice that of the examples he gives of "free speech", only Lucy Connolly was arrested and imprisoned.

    2. A point of detail in defence of Graham Linehan. Graham encouraged women when feeling threatened as an act of self-defence when finding a man in their protected spaces to punch that him in the balls. Linehan was not advocating an all round punch throwing free for all on those types just for the ideas in their heads. Unlike the "Punch a TERF" mob.

    3. A point of detail in defence of Graham Linehan. Graham encouraged women when feeling threatened as an act of self-defence when finding a man in their protected spaces to punch that him in the balls. Linehan was not advocating an all round punch throwing free for all on those types just for the ideas in their heads. Unlike the "Punch a TERF" mob.

    4. "I find it incredible that a second-generation Briton would play with fire like that, encouraging indigenous people to fight the descendants of more recent arrivals."

      Mothin Ali is not a Briton. The Gazans are not indigenous people.

  98. Well, chums, my bedtime approaches. So I'll wish you all Good Night. I hope you all sleep well, and I hope to see you all early tomorrow morning.

          1. Yes, thank you. I put the heating on as soon as I got home and am wearing extra layers. I’ve more or less put everything away after unpacking the motorhome. I only went for one night, but it’s amazing what you need!

    2. Goodnight, Elsie. The dogs are all for going to bed – I went upstairs to put a hot water bottle in to warm the bedding and they shot past me and leapt into their beds!

  99. Prince William hails ‘heroes’ working to save planet
    Prince of Wales unveils finalists for annual Earthshot Prize ahead of Rio De Janeiro awards
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2025/10/04/prince-of-wales-hails-heroes-working-to-save-planet/

    Most of the BTL comments express the opinion that having a woke Idiot King is bad enough but to have a woke Idiot Prince of Wales is well over the top.

    Remember that when the Idiot King was the Prince of Wales many people said they thought the monarchy should skip a generation and William should be king rather than Charles?

    When Charles shuffles off this mortal coil they must leapfrog William and put Prince George on the throne?

    2. Prince George is possibly retarded too. Better to scrap the lot, seize the Palaces and convert to Old Folks’ Homes and rename them Grace and Favour Apartments.

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