Monday 15 November: Britain is encouraging record numbers to cross the Channel illegally

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871 thoughts on “Monday 15 November: Britain is encouraging record numbers to cross the Channel illegally”

  1. SIR – We have shortages of workers in many of our trades. We also have hundreds of migrants crossing the Channel every day. These are families and individuals who have taken risks and endured hardship in order to make a better life for themselves. Are we putting two and two together?

    David Cartwright
    Woodborough, Nottinghamshire

    If a majority of the UK’s population thinks like Mr Cartwright, the nation is doomed.

    1. Man’s a cretin,the vast majority have no intention of ever working except to breed ever more of their ilk to suckle on our taxes…….
      See the influx of “Dutch” Somalians who arrived when Dutch politicians tightened the rules to protect Dutch taxpayers for more details…………

      2. I would say that virtue-signallers are all complete prats anyway because they have nothing else to offer – but think that we cannot see that.

        ‘Morning Korky.

    3. You’re assuming they can read and write, Mr Cartwright.
      Of the Syrians who arrived in Germany in 2015, it was said at the time that 60% of them were functionally illiterate in any language.

    4. ‘Morning, WS. An appropriate BTL comment:

      Matthew Biddlecombe
      3 HRS AGO
      Ref letter:- David Cartwright
      “We have shortages of workers in many of our trades. We also have hundreds of migrants crossing the Channel every day.” states Mr. Cartwright; he goes on ask “Are we putting two and two together?” I would suggest it is the author himself who is not putting two and two together.
      Where, for example, does he plan to house all these extra people coming into the country? Then there are the families he talks about, so where will his children be educated? How will the NHS cope with these extra people using their services? How are we to move thousands of extra bodies per week around the country on public transport?
      Mr. Cartwright, if you opened your eyes and looked at the reality of the situation, quite simply put, we are full. We cannot build enough houses for all who live here at the moment; our schools are bursting with many children being taught in mobile classrooms rather than properly built, and insulated, brick built classes; our NHS is constantly in need of being saved because it cannot cope with those it has to deal with already; meanwhile, our roads are clogged and, at times of the day, at standstill whilst public transport, again, struggles to cope with peak demand.
      So whilst you’re stood on the coasts in Kent welcoming these people in by their thousands per week, maybe you’d like to re-think your letter this of morning and ask yourself just who it really is that isn’t putting two and two together?

    5. How many of those on the dinghies are plumbers and nurses though? I thought these came from Poland, not those going to Poland.

    6. Mr Cartwright appears to misunderstand the situation.

      Anyone with a skill, and the ability to speak English, can apply to enter the country to work legally.

      Only those who wish to leech off the welfare state will take the long and arduous option of illegal entry.

      The Sunday Times points out that British taxpayers are paying for 125,000 illegals to be housed and fed.

    7. It’s hardly ‘taking a risk’ to gamble a fiver when you’re guaranteed to win fifty grand.

  4. SIR – The EU and others have rightly condemned the antics at the Belarus border, where helpless migrants are being used as a political weapon to force concessions from the EU. This is, of course, not an original idea.

    France has been using the tactic against Britain for over a year. The main difference between President Lukashenko and President Macron seems to be one of scale, more than anything else – and honesty, of course. Lukashenko does not hide the fact he is doing it for political advantage. Macron just gives a Gallic shrug.

    Stephen R Usher
    Chichester, West Sussex

  5. SIR – Now that India and China have persuaded the Cop26 attendees to commit to “phase down” coal instead of phasing it out, can the Government stop telling us that Britain can save the environment and the world and retract its expensive and ultimately ineffectual green agenda?

    Roger Gentry
    Weavering, Kent

    1. I do not think that Roger Gentry has quite grasped what Johnson’s ‘green agenda’ really entails.

      1. Or that China and about thirty other nations have signed an agreement saying that the West has burned its “share” of fossil fuels, so we should stop, but they are allowed to carry on burning them!

        Using technology invented by us, of course, but they don’t mention that.
        Special hypocrisy award of the century goes to OPEC country and signatory Algeria which has earned $$$ from us burning oil over the years.

  6. SIR – The difference between generations was brought home to me on Saturday when Henry, my 11-year-old grandson, spying my Telegraph spread out on the sofa said: “Your house smells of newspapers”.

    Mary Moore
    Croydon, Surrey

    A well sculpted observation.

      1. Guten Morgen, BB. Das mußt Du mir mal erklären, da ich keine Ahnung habe, was Du meinst.

        1. Entschuldigung!
          https://www.dcode.fr/leet-speak-1337

          “Leet (or 1337 or l33t5p34k) is a language developed with the advent of the Internet, composed of ASCII characters graphically similar to the usual alphanumeric characters.

          The term leet speak comes from elite speak which oppose those who do not understand the language, the neophytes (noobs).

          Paradoxically, over time, some people have called this language the n00b 5p34k (noob speak) …”

  9. Cop26: death knell for coal has been sounded, says Boris Johnson – as it happened. 15 November 2021.

    Johnson said the conference marked the “death knell for coal” with a mandate to cut the use of coal power for the first time.

    On the late watering down of the language around ending the use of coal, Johnson said we cannot force sovereign nations to do what they do not wish to do.

    Johnson said the Cop26 talks in Glasgow had put the world on course for around 2C of warming and that 1.5C was still alive.

    On their personal efforts to reducing climate emissions, Sharma said he did not believe in restricting the use of air travel by politicians. Johnson said he used to travel everywhere by bike.

    Yes it’s a “Death Knell” to Common Sense since it allows China and India to do just as they like for the foreseeable future. As for Sharma this simple statement sums up the whole enterprise. It’s not about us; we are just going to carry on. The heavy lifting is for you Dummies out there who believe this unutterable tosh! As you are eating your gruel we are going to be dining out à la carte.

    In the whole History of the World there has never been such a scam!

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/live/2021/nov/14/cop26-live-leaders-hail-glasgow-climate-pact-but-activists-say-summit-failed

      1. I’m not so sure, JN. Johnson’s maniacal promotion of the world’s greatest and most damaging scam shows no sign of abating. Besides, it distracts from the real tasks of government.

  10. As I began to understand what the EU was 7 or 8 years ago, driving through Calais and observing the hapless souls waiting for a chance to hide in some lorry to come here I observed to my wife that the easiest thing for cynical France to do would be to supply them with boats.
    I am vaguely suprised it took them so long to do so.

  11. Morning All

    I would be angry enough at this headline at the best of times

    “Pensioners face £169 blow as ministers dig in over triple lock suspension

    The poorest will be forced to choose between ‘heating and eating’ when it gets colder, warns charity group”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/11/14/pensioners-face-169-blow-ministers-dig-triple-lock-suspension
    Given the current invasion and restored foreign aid I am bloody incandescent!!

    1. We could run Nottler’s Special Hoildays

      Get taken from Deal, around to Dover, in a RIB

      Speak proper English to the Border Farce, who will declare you illegals, put you up in a 5 5tar Hotel, all expenses paid, for a fortnight,
      then use your Railcards to get home.

      Repeat Often

    2. I had a bit of a shock when I ran a check on my own pension entitlement, when I hit 66 in February. I have 36 years of contributions, which meets the years required for a full State pension, which was reduced from 45 down to 30 and then back up to 35. It enabled me to retire when I was forced out of work in 2008 and live without benefits on interest on savings from an early inheritance that had been earmarked for a house extension. I therefore made no further income contributions after 2008, although I did buy a couple of years top-up for the time I was travelling around Europe in the 1970s.

      It seems though that during the time I was working, some of my contributions were “contracted out”, meaning that they were being diverted to a company pension, which has been paying my Council Tax, and little else, since I was 60. Under new rules, put through in 2016, it reduces the full State pension I am entitled to, and dropped it by some £30 a week from next February. I did manage to get most of it back by buying voluntary contributions from 2016, which cost me £4000. I am still down by £3 a week though because I cannot buy AVC for the year 2021-22 because I hit retirement age in that tax year.

  14. Liverpool Women’s Hospital: One dead in car explosion outside hospital. 15 November 2021.

    One person has died and another has been injured in a car explosion and fire outside a hospital in Liverpool.

    Merseyside Police said there were reports of an explosion after a taxi pulled up at Liverpool Women’s Hospital just before 11:00 GMT.

    The force said it “has not been declared a terrorist incident” but counter-terrorism detectives were leading the inquiry “out of caution”.

    It added it “could take some time” before they could confirm details.

    I note that the term “Car Explosion” is now ubiquitous across the MSM except in foreign reports. This presumably to avoid the more disturbing term “Car Bomb” that carries with it all sorts of unwanted baggage about Islam and similar sensitivities. This said it still looks like the least worse choice they could have made since almost certainly this was a suicide bombing of the nearby Remembrance Day ceremony. There is little doubt who would wish such an event. We must now await the inevitable and planned delay with the accompanying buckets of Whitewash until the Usual Suspects are revealed.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-59282354

    1. The ‘passenger’ was probably upset by a cricketer calling him ‘Picky’ (he does have hearing problems), 22 years ago
      and he was just highlighting his trauma, with a bang

    2. The ‘passenger’ was probably upset by a cricketer calling him ‘Picky’ (he does have hearing problems), 22 years ago
      and he was just highlighting his trauma, with a bang

  15. It’s clear we had a very narrow escape yesterday thanks to a taxi driver not our intelligence services I wonder when any politician will have the guts to address the real issues

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0ee1982b3c9a62cd1b22d1ba3b0a5bc912898b0c17e8cd290471c3b9d36a02ba.jpg

    Very lucky indeed

    “A fundraiser was last night set up by

    some of Mr Perry’s Liverpool taxi driver colleagues to help him and his

    family recover from the ordeal. It had made £8,500 within hours.

    One

    theory police are probing is that the detonators on a potential bomb

    exploded but not the main charge. That would be a repeat of the failed

    21/7 bombings three weeks after the 7/7 atrocity.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10200811/Bomb-squad-called-hospital-sounds-explosion-heard-outside-entrance.html

      1. If he had dropped the bomber where he was asked it would have been a tremendous boost to the Islamic Terrorist Campaign. A triple strike against Christianity, the Military and the ordinary people of the UK.

    3. On the watch list.
      Known to the authorities.
      A* student.
      Kept himself to himself.
      Always said ‘good morning’.
      Started growing a beard in 6th. Form……..

      We can write the script.

    2. …and where are our Parliamentarians and hopefuls, to find a Party and a Leader who will speak for us like that?

      For God’s and Britain’s sake, come forward – NOW.

  18. SIR – Throughout the pandemic there have been dire warnings that the NHS might be overwhelmed if the number of patients with Covid-19 rose too high. It has been suggested that we do everything in our power to protect it.

    This problem is a direct result of insufficient capacity in the system. It is a shameful admission that now there may be inadequate facilities to treat the enormous backlog of patients with cancer and other serious conditions who have been denied treatment during the past year.

    Successive administrations have reduced capacity in the NHS to dangerous levels. At present, Britain has fewer than 2.54 beds per 100,000 people. This compares to 8 in Germany, 7.37 in Austria, 7.02 in Hungary, and 5.98 in France. The problem is compounded by the fact that Britain’s number of doctors per capita is also one of the lowest in Europe. It is no surprise that ambulances have to wait, often for several hours, outside A&E units, before there is space to accept patients.

    Inadequate capacity is the main challenge facing the NHS and will require a major initiative on the part of the Government if our health service is once again to be capable of taking care of the population. In my own city I have witnessed the loss of more than 1,500 hospital beds since the 1980s, all carried out on the basis of cost savings and efficiency. This is unsustainable and must not be allowed to continue.

    Malcolm H Wheeler FRCS
    Bonvilston, Glamorgan

    ‘Morning Peeps. It is high time that every government minister who pops up for interview is first asked to explain how and why 11 years of Tory governments have brought us to such a dangerously low bed count.

    1. It’s not just the Tories though, is it. It’s all the empire-builders in Our NHS, Labour’s ghastly PFI, and the structure of the whole thing to start with. How are you going to get more beds when the cost of changing a light bulb is something ridiculous?
      Nationalising healthcare was the worst decision ever; all they needed to do was nationalise health insurance, as they did in other countries.

      1. ‘Morning, bb2. PFI was started under a Tory governmrnt, albeit in a very limited way. Gordon Brown then realised that all his Christmases had come at once when so much ‘investment’ (aarrrgh!) could be kept off the balance sheet. The fact remains, however, that the Tories failed to make proper provision for decent healthcare. They were, and still are, allegedly, in charge and if it was over-burdened with diversity managers and their ilk then it was their responsibility to put a stop to such an appalling waste of public money.

        1. The rot set in before Major’s time.

          My first girlfriend was a nurse working in Dorking General Hospital in 1980. This hospital has now been demolished and replaced by a housing estate, and all but minor treatment centralised to Reigate or Guildford.

          At that time, they build two new outbuilding geriatric wards to upgrade from the Carry On ones in the Victorian buildings. In order to pay for them, they cut the staff, so the nurses could not cope with the demands from their patients, and sometimes fights would break out between them. This never happened in the old wards run by the matrons and well scrubbed with carbolic.

          By December, my girlfriend had had enough, so she decided to go AWOL home to France to spend the time with her family there. I went with her. When she returned to face disciplinary charges, it took five levels of management to issue her with a reprimand.

        2. I don’t want to let them off the hook – I just think everyone involved is equally to blame. The Tories for moral cowardice as much as anyone else.

    2. There is a point beyond which claims for efficiency fall off a cliff edge for any entity. It is clear that the NHS has gone over that edge and is in free-fall. Whether a deliberate policy to destroy the NHS or sheer incompetency by governments/ministers always chasing efficiency savings it is hard to tell.

      1. ‘Morning, Paul, and, with no source, I’m prepared to bet that Administrative costs versus Medical costs, will be about 2:1 or even higher.

    4. I remember a year or two back pointing out how the extra NHS money was building new hospitals. Yet in Worcester, in order to pay the PFI costs, which are bound in with watertight legal contracts for thirty years, the Victorian Royal Infirmary in the city was sold off to the University, and the large sprawling utility-era Ronkswood site was flattened and sold off to a housing developer. The brand new hospital was creating by extending the 1960s mental health unit. The general hospitals in Kidderminster, Redditch and Malvern were reduced to health clinics as part of the county’s centralisation programme, which of course comes at a cost to the NHS.

      Someone commented under me that there are far fewer hospitals existing now than there were fifty years ago, despite all this money being spent on them.

    5. Not to mention that this (and previous) government(s) has been increasing the population without increasing the number of medicos. It isn’t rocket science to realise that more people and fewer (or even the same number of) docs means a smaller ratio of docs to population.

  19. SIR – The Prince of Wales is absolutely correct that to neglect newly planted trees is fatal. The only thing they really need is regular watering in the spring and summer for at least the first two years.

    Surely it would not be asking too much of the nearby householders to keep an eye out during dry periods. Locals could be consulted on their willingness to join with like-minded people, which would guarantee the future survival of the trees.

    Alan Ripley
    Polstead, Suffolk

    That’s all fine and dandy, Alan Ripley, but what about those in receipt of subsidies for planting them in the first place??

    1. Exacto. In these days of domestic water meters, should local householders be expected to assume the welfare of imposed tree-planting?

      ‘Morning, Hugh. Cruising next year?

      1. ‘Morning Peddy. No, we have decided to give it a wide berth (ho ho) as being trapped on a floating petri dish does not really appeal. You?

        1. No, Great Rail have hardened their policy towards mobility-challenged passengers, so I’m not likely to be going anywhere.

      3. A rule of thumb when planting trees is to plant six saplings for every tree one intends to be there. Three will die in infancy, mostly through weed competition, vole predation and lack of summer water, two would need to be thinned out, or would be outcompeted as they grow, and one would live on to maturity.

        I accept these odds when I transplant self-sown saplings from my garden away from places they are not wanted to places where I am happy for trees to grow. I don’t bother with guards or special treatment and they must take their chances in nature. I imagine those who pay for their saplings might wish to take more care.

        1. Another problem is – where are these many millions of saplings coming from? A pound to a penny many will be imported, thus bringing with them yet more infections…as well as a lack of resistance to our own.

          1. It seems quite dangerously absurd to buy in ash saplings from Dutch nurseries, in a part of Europe rife with Ash Dieback, when the things grow like weeds in my garden, and can be produced effortlessly by the million in British nurseries, which are currently abandoned and destined to be turned into housing.

  20. ‘Morning again.

    The first of these BTLs raised a wry smile. The second prompted a ‘Bravo!’:

    Martin Mitchel
    1 HR AGO
    It was claimed doctors and architects were making the perilous journey along the economic migrant trail to the UK (I wonder if it was one of those who spontaneously combusted yesterday.) Mr Cartwright seems to think they have all arrived and are now being followed by a wave of plumbers and carpenters. Maybe he is hoping to do up his house VAT free on the cheap….

    Bettina Thwaite
    55 MIN AGO
    One of my friends comes from Somalia. She came as a qualified IC nurse. She applied to come here & work through the correct official channels, no need for a dinghy. The dinghies are for those who have nothing to offer but want to take.

  21. Good morning all.
    A dry and overcast start to the day with a tad over 6°c in the yard.

    An excellent bit of news for a change, picked up from PoppiesMum’s query of last night, it seem Klaus Schwab has been arrested in Switzerland for “multiple counts of fraud.”

    Klaus Schwab arrested at his home in Switzerland as #RemembranceSunday trends
    conservativebeaver_skphjv Posted onNovember 12, 2021
    Beaver Exclusive

    Klaus Schwab, founder of the World Economic Forum (WEF), has been arrested at his home in Cologny, Switzerland Friday and charged for multiple counts of fraud. A police source states that he was arrested on request of Europol in relation to crimes he allegedly committed during the COVID-19 pandemic. Klaus Schwab is currently in custody. His lawyer was not immediately available for comment.

    According to Wikipedia: the WEF is mostly known for its annual meeting at the end of January in Davos, a mountain resort in Graubünden, in the eastern Alps region of Switzerland. The meeting brings together some 3,000 paying members and selected participants – among which are business leaders, political leaders, economists, celebrities and journalists – for up to five days to discuss global issues across 500 sessions.

    According to the AP: The elite gathering typically draws hundreds of well-known government leaders, business executives, civil society advocates and artists, actors and musicians. However, Fox News commentator Laura Ingraham warned Fox News viewers in 2020 the meetings were centered around a globalist plan to “transform civil society.”

    https://www.conservativebeaver.com/2021/11/12/klaus-schwab-arrested-at-his-home-in-switzerland/

    1. Hancock is/was(?) a fan. Will this event affect book sales?

      And I’m delighted to speak alongside so many impressive colleagues who really understand this, and alongside Professor Klaus Schwab who literally ‘wrote the book’ on the 4th Industrial Revolution. Your work, bringing together as you do all the best minds on the planet, has
      informed what we are doing, and I’m delighted to work with you.

      Government Speeches 4th Industrial Revolution

    2. Multiple counts of fraud you say………….
      Maybe after fines,prison and restitution HE will own nothing…..
      Here’s hoping it would be a delicious irony
      Edit
      ‘Morning Bob

      1. After time in jail/gaol, one hopes that big hairy cons will have stretched his ring so far that he can pull it over his head.

    3. Multiple counts of fraud you say………….
      Maybe after fines,prison and restitution HE will own nothing…..
      Here’s hoping it would be a delicious irony
      Edit
      ‘Morning Bob

        1. Lots of links on google have been redacted due to EU privacy laws, so I suspect it must have some truth.

  22. I suspect the hero taxi driver is going to need a bit more than £8500 he can never return to his job as some nut-job is sure to seek revenge for his role in preventing the bombing
    If fact like the Batley teachers he’ll probably have to go into hiding……….
    Feeling enriched yet??

    1. He should never have allowed his picture to be put up in the MSM. The government will of course abandon him!

      1. Morning, Araminta.

        What do you mean will abandon him? As far as the government is concerned he was on his own the moment he decided to act. We are talking about truly reprehensible people here.

        1. Morning Korky. It’s difficult to avoid superlatives when dealing with the present incumbents of Parliament. They are without doubt the worst people ever to have sat there and this certainly includes the Rump Parliament and its occupancy under King Stephen (when God and the Saints slept) If I had to choose a single word it would be TRAITORS since they have betrayed literally everything. The Past, the People and the Future!

          1. A mediaeval nerd rites …..
            Rump Parliament was under Cromwell.
            There was no Parliament in the reign of King Stephen.

          4. But Stephen was ousted by Matilda (1102-1167) in 1141 as she was the niece of Henry I and Stephen was seen as the usurper.

            Here endeth the lesson from my Family Tree and vague memories of Piers Ploughman.

          7. I commented yesterday about a letter appearing in the local press, the second I’ve read recently, criticising my local MP for his voting record and support for the Johnson government. I can no longer consider writing to him after receiving the standardised tosh he sent to me as his last reply.

            It is abundantly clear that the Tory party is now a lost cause, lost to greenery and globalism and on a path to the tyranny that is appearing around the World at the behest of globalists. Johnson attempts to hide his tyrannical moves by using the NHS as a smokescreen and the “non-vaccinated” as the prime movers of an infection of what my recent experience tells me is a cold with an irritating cough.

            In NZ Adern’s popularity has dropped dramatically, Biden too is heading for rock bottom and now Johnson’s gloss in wearing off. However, I believe we will see attempts at doubling down as the truth starts to dawn on the people. It will most likely get ugly as more people recover from their self-induced coma re covid.

      2. He will be prosecuted for abandoning his passenger.
        Or not taking him to his destination….
        Or locking him in without supervision…..
        They’ll think of something, even if it’s thirty years later.

    2. Frankly,, as soon as the Batley lot arrived they should have been told, by plod to shove off back to eating dung as we will teach what is right and proper, not their oppressive nonsense.

      1. IIRC, insurance requires that you have to apply to the Govt or police for payouts as a result of terrorism. So, I suspect the poor guy will be out of pocket for quite a while, govt agencies never being in a hurry to do anything except for nothing, and take your money.

        1. True, but it would be a particularly hard-hearted insurer to refuse. Just think of the negative PR…

          1. Insurers have no hearts, nor common sense. They also fiddle the insurance policies. Insurance is a scam and a con. You re never covered for what you expect to be.

        2. So, Herr Oberst, you’re saying (© Cathy Newman) that Hugh Janus’ real name is IIRC. Or did you mean “Institute In Rural Connivance”?

      1. ‘Morning, Anne, or get charged with the manslaughter of his passenger, by locking the doors.

        To my mind, that’s not beyond the bounds of possibility to appease the slammers.

  24. Headline in the DT – I don’t know whether to laugh or cry:

    “France must intercept every Channel migrant, Priti Patel to say”

  25. “Pentagon to respond “appropriately” after Oklahoma National Guard says it won’t follow COVID-19 vaccine mandate” Axios. 14 November 2021.

    We are aware of the memo issued by the Oklahoma Adjutant General regarding COVID vaccination for Guardsmen and the governor’s letter requesting exemption. We will respond to the governor appropriately,” Pentagon spokesman John Kirby told Axios in a statement.

    Comment: Well, well, this will be an interesting test. The National Guard of each state is the portion of the state’s militia that is federally supported with money, training and equipment. Unless the president calls the National Guard into federal service, the governor controls it. If Biden/Austin seize control of the Oklahoma Guard and manage to make that “stick,” then seizure of control of the Texas Guard cannot be far behind. Pat Lang.

    It’s not just here!

    https://turcopolier.com/pentagon-to-respond-appropriately-after-oklahoma-national-guard-says-it-wont-follow-covid-19-vaccine-mandate-axios/

  26. 341614+ up tic ks,

    Morning Each,
    May one ask.
    Only one way this odious issue can be seen, we are witnessing an
    eu/uk joint effort.

    With these politico’s facilitating in a joint invasion with france as allies across the channel what have the current ” party” members to say in defence of the “party”

    Is a new strain of mosleyites about to “come out ” from the cabinet ?

    David Poulden Registered sign
    @DavidPoulden
    ·7m
    The number of “extremists” now exceeds the number of UK Army reserves.

    Just let that sink in.

    Monday 15 November: Britain is encouraging record numbers to cross the Channel illegally

    1. 341614+ up ticks,
      O2O,
      Surely MI whatever should be involved because if ONE
      of the boat invaders is found to be guilty of an act of terrorism then politicos of governance party’s are acting in collusion, og ?

      1. ogga1: I am a little concerned about you. Apart from posting a reply to your own post, your message is prefaced with “O2O” and ends with “og”. Is the answer to your question “OXO”?

        1. 341614+ up ticks,
          Morning EB,
          Thank you but worry no more it is just an extension of talking to oneself, have you never called yourself a bloody fool
          out loud for some action taken,?

          1. Well, we all make mistakes from time to time, ogga1, but in your case I find that it’s more like always that I find your posts incomprehensible. However, do not despair – I have decided that from henceforth I shall do my best not to react to such posts as it really is a waste of my time reacting to such posts.

  27. Good Moaning.

    “Counter-terror police are leading the investigation amid fears the passenger who died was a suicide bomber”

    Fears? Fears!?! I bloody well hope so. Shame it was just the one.

    If correct, well done that taxi driver. A passenger who wishes to arrive at a Remembrance Day parade just as the 2 minute silence is beginning, doesn’t – to put it politely – appreciate the significance of the event. I suspect the taxi driver made judgements about his passenger that would cause conniptions in the Met.

      1. 🙂 I love words.

        Conniption

        noun INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN

        plural noun: conniptions

        “A fit of rage or hysterics.”

  28. It appears that the Luciferian saint Bill has been giving money to the UK Medicines Regulator to accompany his other Philanthropy. The metrics suggest that our children, and no doubt adults, are dying as a result. As Anne Allan might have it – definite conniption material!!!

    https://www.tarableu.com/more-gating-issues/

    1. But he was installed by a state machine with an agenda. Thus he is simply doing what the entire edifice of Whitehall wants.

      1. 341614+ up ticks,
        Morning W,
        With the peoples ,via the polling booth, consent, again,again,& again.

        1. The latest opinion poll showed that 53% of Brits wish to rejoin the EU.

          Continuity-Remain are certainly doing a wonderful job.

          I wonder whether they will all be rewarded?

          2. No, it was some polling organisation that I’ve never heard of.

            I was just rather surprised.

            Even the Remainers we know are extremely annoyed with the French.

          3. 341614+ up ticks,
            Afternoon JH,
            We are now getting a 1000 day plus that would back the uk / eu partnership the lab/lib/con / brussels coalition has been in force for near four decades.

            These by elections that are due will tell a story.

          4. If you lead people to the answers you want, you’ll get the answer you want. The biggest problem is that the benefits of Brexit are being squandered – deliberately! For example, ‘If the illegal immigration would end by re-joining the EU, would you support that’ folk will say yes.

            I don’t know why the question is even being mooted. We are never rejoining the hated EU.

  36. As regards the jihadi attack in Liverpool that was ameliorated by the prompt action of the taxi driver, Dave Perry, will Parliament vote him a pension? Maybe not as large as that awarded to Wellington, but sufficient for his needs.
    I also wonder about a couple of things. Why do the police not call a spade a spade? It seems that our terrorist watchers, outnumbered 5 to 1 by the terrorists, can only respond after the event, are reactive rather than proactive, and have ceased to be our guardians but have become cleaners.

  37. We are not, the state machine is. It is the one refusing to take the illegals back to France. The coastguard are also culpable, as are the RNLI.

    They’re doing what they are told, but the state should edict that illegals are to be towed back to France. All other rescue efforts to be brought to the UK.

        1. By donations, and by legacies. I don’t suppose that there will be may legacies after this.

          1. Mine was cancelled ages ago. When it became clear they had gone woke and treated life served volunteers like shit.

            Anything i have left when i pop my clogs is going to the local hospice.

          2. Mine was cancelled a while ago when their role became apparent. Same with MSF, when they were fllmed facilitating arrival in Italy.

          3. I suppose you are correct but taxpayer funding will no doubt be provided to make up the shortfall. Sadly the RNLI has become just another quango.

  38. Depressing to hear Merseyside Plod Spokesman denying any link between the suicide bomb and Remembrance Day because “he could never have walked the mile to the Remembrance Service in the ONE minute from where the bomb exploded” …. I certainly am glad this Plod was NOT driving the passenger.

      1. They are no longer police forces, Belle, they are a service. My ex-copper friend says they now act like the fire service; they don’t go out to prevent crime, only react when it’s committed.

      1. He probably detonated it when he was locked in Poppy’s Mama. There was nowhere for him to go, and capture if not actual death was almost certainly imminent!!

        1. I think I might have been misunderstood; I thought he was trying to get to the cathedral for 11.00 am or just immediately after, and the police were saying that the cathedral couldn’t possibly have been his destination as he couldn’t have hot-footed it in time for a dramatic explosion from where he had asked to be taken. I realise he detonated it himself when he was locked in. And I think the cathedral was his ultimate destination. Just bad timing.

          1. By the Grace of God… and the taxi driver. Good man, anyone know a link to a donation site for him?

          4. We need fuller information. It looks as though he intended to join the crowd going in and thus evade the Security at the entrance and then detonate the bomb inside for maximum effect!

        2. I heard he was locked in a cab, Minty, and not in Poppy’s Mama.

          Oh, yeah, commas are always good at helping the understanding.

    3. It is a stupid comment as one might expect. The explosives are detonated by the wearer not a timing device!

  39. 341614+ up ticks,

    With electoral future help she will be repeating this when the millionth is
    touching down on the beach.

    France must intercept every Channel migrant, Priti Patel to say
    Home Secretary will tell French counterpart that 100pc of boats must be stopped, after a week in which 1,185 migrants reached UK in a day

  40. If Lukaschenko is trying to destabilise the EU with 4,000 illegals in total at Polish border, how come Macron is also not trying to destabilise the UK with 1,000 assisted illegals setting off EVERY DAY from French coast?

  42. Liverpool

    Charlotte Nichols, Labour MP for Warrington North, said: “Incredibly disturbing news.

    “Wishing those investigating all the very best as they work to ascertain what happened, and sending love to the family and friends of

    the person who was killed in the incident.”

    Not the best of statements

    She no doubt wanted an outcome like this

    Warrington bombings

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrington_bombings

    2. Is this the same drunken woman who had to be removed from the plane in Gibraltar in a wheelchair?
      Yes! I believe it is!
      Edit: spelling

      1. WARRINGTON North MP Charlotte Nichols was reportedly taken from a plane in a wheelchair after ‘drinking heavily’ on an official visit to Gibraltar.

        Labour’s Ms Nichols is one of three members under fire after a report from the Telegraph claimed she and the Scottish National Party’s David Linden and Drew Hendry had been drinking alcohol before and during the British Airways flight from Heathrow Airport on Tuesday.

        It is claimed that when the flight landed, she required a wheelchair to be transported from baggage reclaim to a military minibus before being taken to a hotel ‘for her own safety’ while her SNP colleagues were acting ‘lairy’.

        She then missed a welcome dinner but is understood to have flown back to London two days early on Wednesday night, due to what has been described by the BBC as a ‘mental health episode’.

        The trio were among 14 MPs who jetted out to the British overseas territory as part of the Armed Forces Parliamentary Scheme, which invites politicians to see the UK’s military in action.

        Ms Nichols, chairman of the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Pubs, told the Sun that she had consumed ‘less than five’ drinks but that medication she is taking had ‘affected her tolerance’.

        She said: “Everyone had had a few drinks on the flight.

        “The issue for me is the medication I am taking.

        “That affected my tolerance.

        “I had the same amount to drink as the others. I do not know how many drinks I had — I wasn’t counting.

        “It was less than five.”

        Defence secretary Ben Wallace says he will complain to the leaders of both parties over the incident.

        The Tory minister said: “This type of behaviour shows a lack of respect for the enduring work of our armed forces. The armed forces scheme is an opportunity for both parliamentarians and the military to understand each other.

        https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/news/19710183.mp-charlotte-nichols-reportedly-taken-plane-wheelchair-drinking/

        A three hour flight?

        1. Poor girl – it must have been a real ordeal.

          Her folly was to go with Scots MPs who are known to drink likes fishes all day long.

        2. You weren’t counting? You were on official business, on medication, you were drinking.

          You’re not fit to be an MP. Heck, you’re not fit to be a Pinata.

    4. First thought I had was that Starmer should make an example of her and immediately kick her out of the Labour Party. Then I came to my senses and realised that (Kneel) Starmer is as gutless as Johnson.

  44. We are doomed to lose the struggle against the tide of illegal immigrants with the RNLI priding themselves on how many they can ‘rescue’ each day and the Border Force union being vehemently against HMG immigration controls

    Union considers legal action over Channel refugee ‘pushbacks’

    Border Force staff express concern at Priti Patel’s proposed tactic of forcing boats back to France

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/nov/14/union-considers-legal-action-over-channel-refugee-pushbacks

    2. Then if the unions start getting uppity they can go on strike.

      Win win! We save the money and the gimmigrants don’t get a taxi.

  46. Speed trials at Honister Slate mines, Cumbria

    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/575b9d79424d1f44edc406e35a88e13db51d227f/92_421_5410_3246/master/5410.jpg?width=700&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=353f2895b7bd5218ac63729968967adc
    Hannah Mycock drives an Austin 7 vintage car dating from 1930 as she takes part in the 52nd annual Lakeland Trial near Keswick in the Lake District

    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/cd460c3fd418a0c10d6dcf3c1cedc298fe1cebde/0_0_5191_3478/master/5191.jpg?width=980&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=eb6c13d977866624c2e9d9d0590bd503

    1. A great friend of mine who loved fiddling with motors and engines managed to supercharge and modify a Reliant Robin and actually won a couple of hill climbing events.

  47. Australian women reveal how they were forcibly strip searched at Qatar airport by officials who rounded up ALL women for invasive genital examination in hunt for mother of newborn abandoned in terminal
    Several women are taking legal action after being subjected to vaginal exams
    The group of 13 were ordered off their Qatar Airways flight in Doha last year
    Authorities were hunting for the mother of a baby found in an airport bin
    Women of childbearing age in the vicinity endured invasive strip searches
    Those involved say the human rights breach was ‘humiliating and traumatising’
    The victims are now calling on the Qatar government to bring justice
    By LEVI PARSONS FOR MAILONLINE

    PUBLISHED: 17:02, 14 November 2021 | UPDATED: 01:49, 15 November 2021

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10201005/Australian-women-forced-strip-undergo-traumatising-vaginal-exams-Qatar-airport.html

    1. For an easy laugh any time, any place, just say, “the Qatar government scrupulously defends human rights.”
      You’ll have them rolling in the aisles.

    3. We had a much better experience in Doha in 2019 – they couldn’t have been more helpful when our flight arrived late (it left Heathrow late) they rushed us through customs and held the mini bus waiting to take us and two others to the waiting flight to Arusha.

  48. I watched a recording of the Cenotaph parade. There is definitely something wrong with Woke William’s hat. No mater what uniform he appears in, the hat is always odd looking. Perhaps he doesn’t look in the mirror; or watch replays….

      1. I only noticed two wog “leaders” gagged up – and a couple in the march past.

        I was truly shocked that the Midwife was not masked – if only to hide her stupid, simpering face….

    2. The woker he gets the less popular he becomes. But the woker anybody becomes the odder he or she begins to look.

  49. Has the Border Farce chap who said that “Borders are a real pain in the arse” been sacked yet?

    2. Good morning, Bill

      No, he’s been promoted and promised a seat in the House of Lords.

    2. It was 32 years ago? Cripes! Feels like last week!
      That last scene was excellent – v poignant, especially for a comedy show.

    3. And all for what? So some bunch of criminal gimmigrants could pour in and pollute this country, deriding everything fought for and earned with so much blood. To have the hated fifth column Left undermine and poison all that is god and decent.

  51. Why are our “security services” a bunch of woke, ineffective, mimsy Nancy-boys? We are currently seeing pictures of police cordons. We see pictures of men dressed in black body armour, black masks, black helmets carrying heavy black machine guns, looking like Judge Dredd on Benzedrine. They are just standing around. I say this , “Go home, you lemons! It’s all over. You missed it! Again!”
    The police have arrested a few men. Oh, whoop-de-doo!. Why have they not arrested all of their families, their friends and relations, mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, uncles, and cousins, to be remorselessly interrogated hour after hour, day after day, to the limit that is allowed by the law? When they are required to be released, release them and re-arrest them again. Take them all away to to some place far from their homes and interrogate them relentlessly. Repeat a dozen times.
    Send a clear message to their “community” that we have had enough.

    1. I noticed that out of three papers I have read today + Breitbart. Not one of them name the people responsible. But we all know that only Muslims would be so despicable to do such a thing on a day reserved for recalling the sacrifices of those who gave us liberty.

        2. I had the good fortune not to be in GB for the most part when the IRA were active. Although I have to say that Irish Americans behaved like Sh&ts when they heard my English accent.

    2. Why are our “security services” a bunch of woke, ineffective, mimsy Nancy-boys?

      They were chosen for just those qualities. Morning Horace.

    3. Dredd would have solved the gimmigrant issue by shooting them. He would also have arrested the other Muslim terrorists way in advance of their activity and happily shot them too.

      1. Yes. I think that would have worked. The notion that the population of the UK, the British, should be protected, and protected proactively, whatever it takes, has been abandoned. The only places of worship that get armed protection are mosques. What does that tell us, loud and clear?

      1. When there is even a hint of Danger, Frenchmen run away from it

        And wait for us to save them….. again

      2. When there is even a hint of Danger, Frenchmen run away from it

        And wait for us to save them….. again

    3. Well it was a home made bomb! Commercial or Military explosive would have demolished the whole car and the hospital entrance!

  54. Good morning my friends

    The Alan Cochrane article in today’s DT ends with the sentence:

    “But the main stumbling block to her (Nicola Sturgeon) leaving the leadership of the SNP is that there is no obvious successor.”

    It strikes me that this is exactly the same problem we have with The Conservative Party. Boris Johnson has to go and the sooner the better. But who would replace him?

    I am still not convinced of Owen Paterson’s guilt and I do hope he will be able to clear his name. From the time when he was sacked from Dismal Dave’s government for being the only competent minister in the cabinet I had hoped he would become the prime minister. But, as Mark Antony said lucidly in ‘Julius Caesar’ “ambition should be made of sterner stuff” and, unlike Boris Johnson, Owen Paterson lacks the vaulting o’er leaping ambition to spur the sides of his intent which Macbeth needed.

    So, with Owen Paterson out of the field who is there? Steve Baker is flawed – but is there anyone better?

    2. I think Theresa May should be given another chance.

      *sorry, i just banged my head on the keyboard.

    3. Good morning Rastus. The only one I see is Liz Truss. She seems to be a real Conservative and, as I pointed out yesterday, she was the only minister to vote against that disgraceful budget.

        1. That’s a mild transgression now-a-days. But I am not aware of that incident, nor do I care. If you hold people to account for what they did in their private lives we would have precious few politicians or hero’s. Most of the Kings of England would be done for as well as such people as Nelson.

          1. What sailors do in the private lives is one thing. Public figures – who seek to demonstrate that they are fit to “lead” us – should know better. He husband took her back. Her lover’s wife divorced him.

        2. That worked out well with Boris, didn’t it. On the other hand, Cameron and May are hardly shining advertisements of the benefits of fidelity in a Prime Minister.

        2. She may have been but she is certainly not dragging her feet in divorcing us from the EU by building financial bridges to make us independent of the EU. So I can’t, in all fairness blame her for that past transgression.

      3. What about Philip Hollobone? He seems to have a strong sense of civic duty.

        He and Kate Hoey would be a start.

        1. I really like Kate Hoey but she is Labour and could not be relied upon to steer a more Conservative path. Hollobone? Yes but he has no chance. Proper Conservative and really on the right, no chance at all.

          2. True but can’t she renounce it if she chose to go back into politics? I’m not sure of the protocol on such things.

    4. I care not who replaces Boris. It shouldn’t matter. MPs should be carrying out our will, not their own agenda. You could fill the Commons with cats and it would be more useful.

  55. 341614+ up ticks,

    Get taxi driver to front up a taxidermist party whos chief agenda is to STUFF the current lab/lib/con coalition, inclusive of hard core members / voters, in a right royal manner,prior to returning to a land of decency.

    https://youtu.be/m_aX4k09YHI

  56. A puzzled pensioner writes. This trans gender business. It seems to me that the vociferous ones are those males changing to female. I can’t recall complaints from women turning into men.

    Anyone else have thoughts?

    2. Morning Bill. One wonders how far the trans has gone! Is it simply I am Woman? A verbal act of self identitarianism? And thus an opportunity both to penetrate Female Sanctums (and the females within) with absolute impunity and a ready made defence in Law?

    3. Morning Bill. One wonders how far the trans has gone! Is it simply I am Woman? A verbal act of self identitarianism? And thus an opportunity both to penetrate Female Sanctums (and the females within) with absolute impunity and a ready made defence in Law?

    4. It’s a lot easier for women to pass for men than for men to pass as women, that’s why, I think.
      Fewer dissatisfied customers.

      1. In one doco I caught, a FTM trans was complaining that the synthetic balls that were implanted split the covering and popped out. I switched over!

    6. They’re mentally ill. I imagine such people are searching for a kind of identity they haven’t obtained from their parents in opposition, nor sufficient challenge to test themselves and understand their limits and weaknesses, nor the pride in overcoming them in some way.

      Thus they devolve into a fantasy where they are something else entirely. Regardless, they remain men or women. No amount of drugs can change simple fact.

    7. Maybe easier to chop things off rather than add things on. A question best left to brainy people and perverts.

      1. I seem to recall reading somewhere that testosterone treatment causes the clitoris to enlarge and it can be “freed” to make it look like a male appendage so no need to add anything, apparently.

        1. Gosh Conway, you’re an encyclopaedia of knowledge. Add a couple of bourbles from the xmas box and Babs is your uncle!

    8. If you’ve got a dick you’re a bloke.

      If you’ve got a dick and think you aren’t a bloke, you’re a dick.

  57. Three people stung to death as storms in Egypt wash scorpions and snakes into the streets. 14 November 2021.

    Three people have been stung to death and more than 450 injured after heavy rains washed scorpions into the streets in the Egyptian city of Aswan over the weekend.

    Thunderstorms and hail swept scorpions and snakes away from their natural habitats and into people’s homes. The extreme weather also caused power cuts, and brought down street lamps and trees.

    TOP COMMENT BELOW THE LINE.

    F Rouge14 Nov 2021 9:23PM.

    Frogs next
    Flies
    Water to blood
    Global warming to blame claims groana luneberg.
    This is because of cop out 26 which is a travesty against common sense.

    That’s it folks! The End is Nigh. Games up! It’s all over! Time to Cash in your Chips! I’m almost happy!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/11/14/three-people-stung-death-storms-egypt-wash-scorpions-snakes/

    1. I remember sitting on the doormat in North Africa and the houseboy telling me to move, he wanted to sweep the porch. He lifted the mat, I ran, he ran, my brother ran and my mother screamed. Why do women scream, is it to ward off demons or something? There was, under the mat, a dozen or so large fat black, not Caucasian mind you, but black scorpions that had taken up residence.

      A fun game we children had was to hunt scorpions and on finding one dig a circular trench around it, pour in lighter fluid, set fire to it and watch the scorpion commit suicide by running into the flames. On reflection I think that children can be appalling creatures.

      1. Most adults are just bigger children.

        As I tell folk regularly,, when I stop playing I will forever be a child. They don’t understand that.

    2. Horrible. Poor people.
      Scorpions and snakes coming to Britain by next year according to the climate emergency scientists.

      1. You have snakes already. We had a small adder in our garden just before we left. Suddenly, all the frogs disappeared!

    1. But, but, but – we are going net zero, so we don’t want any association with oil companies. Do we?

    2. That surely must be fake news; after all, they assured us that leaving the EU meant that all important companies would defect and it certainly wouldn’t attract inward investment!

  59. From yesterday’s Sunday Times

    You know who else didn’t like people making fun of Hitler? Hitler, of course
    Rod Liddle
    Sunday November 14 2021, 12.01am, The Sunday Times

    I notice that the controversial Austrian-born politician Adolf Hitler has been in the news again. An art historian called Andrew Graham-Dixon briefly impersonated the late Führer in order to make a point about immorality and racism during a debate at the Cambridge Union and found himself blacklisted by the union’s president, Keir Bradwell. Keir later apologised — not for banning Mr Graham-Dixon but for using the word “blacklist”. “I spoke in haste,” the sanctimonious child averred, “and should never have used the term.” Ha! Ban the privileged dimbo! Ban everyone!

    The Führer himself was not available for comment, of course, although he is forever with us, for a myriad of sometimes paradoxical reasons. As a totem of unsurpassed wickedness and depravity, for example, but also because of his foolish moustache, distinctive hairstyle and somewhat overemphatic rhetorical speaking style. And for the goosesteps and the salute and the shrieking, and for having only one testicle, according to the rhyme beloved of schoolboys since 1939.

    For the uniforms. For the racial delusions that underpin fascism. For his quote in April 1945, as he surveyed the ruins of Berlin and the Russian shells landed ever closer: “In the end one regrets having been so benevolent.” Well indeed, Mein Führer, well indeed.

    He is with us too on the internet, via Godwin’s law, which states that as an “online discussion grows longer (regardless of topic or scope), the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Adolf Hitler approaches 1”. He is a very regular contributor via proxy on Twitter, then, and in Facebook threads.

    Most historical evidence suggests that he blew his brains out on April 30, 1945, and his body was subsequently burnt by his few remaining henchmen, but a close relative of mine challenges that scenario. She believes that his lifeless cadaver was abducted by Soviet scientists and his semen frozen in order, a little later on, to create Angela Merkel. I must admit I can find no corroborating evidence for this assertion, which is, nonetheless, quite popular among certain circles of the certifiably insane and the very, very right wing.

    In short, then, Hitler will not go away, despite his death — and that is not an entirely bad thing. It is perhaps true that Hitler stands erect, arm outstretched, in our collective memories as much because we beat him as for the enormity of his crimes: he exists as a cipher for anything that is evil and, crucially, able to be vanquished. But he also remains with us because, despite those crimes, he and his Third Reich — with its vainglorious auditoria designed on a neo-Roman scale by the weaselly and morally bereft architect Albert Speer, and which lasted 12 years rather than the 1,000 envisaged — are eminently mockable.

    And mockery of wickedness is without question a good thing. It is, I would suggest, vital. The boring post-Marxist Herbert Marcuse once said that comedy is the last refuge of the bourgeois, but he was wrong about that as he was about pretty much everything else. Comedy is the first refuge of the humane.

    I have heard it said plenty of times that Britain never fell to totalitarianism back in the first half of the last century because we were insufficiently credulous and found such movements, be they communist or fascist, inherently hilarious. It is a dangerous and rather smug contention: there but for the grace of God! But there is also some truth to it, I think.

    Our famous, and often derided, Anglo-Saxon anti-intellectualism predisposed the population towards a certain cynicism and disdain when faced with pretentious ideologies that claimed for themselves historical inevitability. How could you take Hitler (or Oswald Mosley) seriously when PG Wodehouse’s wonderful creation Roderick Spode was stamping around, ineffectually, in his Nazi uniform, or Charlie Chaplin was hamming it up as the Great Dictator? Mockery was a crucial weapon in the intellectual war against totalitarian creeds. And it still is.

    Who are the totalitarians now? Poor, dim Keir Bradwell and the thousands like him. He should know that a political idea which cannot withstand mockery will not last and does not deserve to exist.

    The more people he puts on a blacklist — and then realises he has used the word “blacklist” — the more normal people find him very funny indeed, hoist by his own dumb petard. And impersonating Hitler for satirical effect? It’s good for a laugh, Keir. But more than that, it’s good for the soul.

    MPs’ concern over wellbeing

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/%2Fmethode%2Fsundaytimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2Fb198a394-449b-11ec-b414-b1f6389ab345.jpg?crop=1500%2C1000%2C0%2C0&resize=860

    Badgers take a bite out of Paterson

    That deranged, gleeful cackling you can hear late at night is Britain’s community of badgers rejoicing over the political demise of Owen Paterson. It was Paterson who introduced the badger cull in which — so far — 140,000 of these lovely animals have been slaughtered, for no good reason.

    The government ordered an independent panel of experts to assess whether the cull was likely to be humane and effective. This wasn’t staffed with bunny-huggers, but top vets and academics, led by Ranald Munro, the government’s former head of veterinary pathology. The panel concluded that the cull would be inhumane and ineffective, which I’m told prompted a civil servant to snarl angrily at one expert, “But you’ve not allowed the secretary of state any wriggle room!”

    Owen didn’t need wriggle room. He just completely ignored the report and refused even to speak to the panel that had produced it. And so the grotesque savagery went ahead and has not remotely affected the incidence of bovine tuberculosis in cattle, which might possibly be linked to the fact that 94 per cent of transmissions are cattle to cattle.

    So, in solidarity with Brock and friends — good riddance to Paterson. And now let’s stop that cull.

    Cave trolls should stop wasting my precious time

    People for whom my milk of human kindness is of the decidedly skimmed variety include those who book a beach holiday in Beirut and are then discomfited when Israeli heavy ordnance lands on the deckchair kiosk — and immediately demand that the British government rescues them. Oh, and potholers.

    Or, at least, potholers who turn out not to be very good at potholing.

    I have no objection to weirdos who wish to sit beside some lake two miles underground. Unless they rely on the rest of the world to save them.

    George Linnane spent more than 50 hours pretending to be Gollum in some dank, reeking Welsh labyrinth, and it took half of the country to pull him out. Try stamp-collecting, mate.

    1. There is an American TV documentary series Expedition Unknown presented by Josh Gates.He finds the Nazi Hideouts in Argentina.
      Its well worth a search…they lived well hidden away in South America…

      1. I watched one of those programmes, about a “forest giant” in Cambodia. The evidence was non-existent, the travelling around was bizarre and exciting (they flew in helicopters and went upriver on makeshift bamboo rafts) and reached no conclusion at all. Boy, is Josh Gates on to a money-spinner.

    2. The government of the UK is insisting on the population being vaccinated “for the greater good”, even though they may not have used that precise terminology. Mr Liddle should keep in mind that everything that Reichschancellor Hitler did was for the “greater good” of the German people. He was elected to office and was very popular. That was unarguably true, and it was successful up to a point, that being September 1939. An unfortunate minority did not benefit from the regime but they made up only around1% of the population of Germany.
      We have a much larger minority that is out of step with the majority, with the government, and with the “greater good”. A minority currently forbidden by law to attend mass gatherings or enter night clubs. Where next?

    3. It seems Ron has fallen for the “Mr Brock” image. He’s clearly never been up close and personal with a badger!

  60. Read the following Imperial War Museum review on TripAdvisor:

    ‘Deeply disappointing

    Nov 2021

    We read the reviews of the Second World War displays and having arrived in time to observe the Act of Remembrance stood with others in the main hall. The entire event became horrendous with the inclusion of a Rap which was nothing more than a vile attack on (among others) Churchill and a rant about race. Both are legitimate subjects for debate, but NOT on Remembrance Sunday. My wife who served in the RAF was deeply upset by
    such a disrespectful charade. We spoke to a member of the staff who was clearly as shocked as we were and said they would pass on our reactions. We left without viewing the exhibition. The whole episode making us question the wisdom of the organisers’.

    I understand the museum recently created a new very-well-paid ‘Head of Diversity’ post while laying-off a large number of other staff.

    1. Does nobody elevated to the ranks of management have any judgement any more? Rap, for Christs sake.

      1. They don’t care. To them ‘it’s cool’ and diverse. They don’t think beyond their own petty ego.

    1. Once, long ago, the war queen and I bungied together.

      I cracked two of her ribs I was holding her so tightly.

        1. I assume so – I’ve done worse since: dropped floor tiles on her, hammers on her toe, badminton serves to the head, got us both completely lost on a foggy day up Scafell Pike, bashed her with an oar on Windermere….

    2. I cannot even watch this. I remember the state of nervous collapse I approached at a performance of the Moscow State Circus.

    3. I live in a cottage. I am so terrified of heights that I cannot look out of a second story window, let alone do something like put on a glider suit, or whatever it is they are called. I have never done a fairground ride unless it stays flat on the ground. I once did a Ferris wheel and although I was put in the middle. I almost choked to death the passengers who were sitting to my sides, I put my arms around their necks and squeezed out of sheer terror. At Disneyland about the only thing I was brave enough to tackle was the Teacups of the Alice in Wonderland ride. Oddly, I don’t mind flying at all as long as I don’t have to look out the window.

    7. I bet this chap has had two jabs and the booster to protect him because he is terrified of getting Covid!

    1. Why are we giving them mobile telephones? Why are we giving them food? Why are we not treating them as criminals as Australia does? There they go into an off shore prison camp. We should do the same – and then leave!

    3. One can imagine the excited calls home:

      “Even better than we hoped: taxi service in to the country, free 4* hotel, food, healthcare and dentistry, clothing, £38 a week spending money, no need to work or learn the language, legal aid if they try to chuck us out, and we even get given a mobile phone so we can spread the word.”

  63. Q: What’s your reaction to the magnificently sharp and heroic action by the Liverpool taxi driver, David Perry?

    A: I wonder how many of the @BorisJohnson cabinet, with their PPEs from Oxford or Classical training would have similarly managed to avoid mass carnage at the targeted Remembrance Sunday gathering.

    2. Come come. The police (who are always right) said that there is no indication that a Remembrance Sunday parade was a target…..

    3. Having seen the video, the device appears to have been triggered by the passenger immediately upon arriving at the requested destination. The intial cloud of smoke did not seem to have been followed by an explosion but only a fire thus allowing the driver to make a sharp exit and sufferering injuries not requiring him to be detained in hospital.

      It looks like a failed detonation bearing the hallmarks of the tube bomber whose device only detonated but caused a fire in the tube.

    1. Given that the vaccine only protects you forcing people to get it because they might be in contact with others is absurd.

      1. Even then, the protection seems mostly to be against getting horribly ill, just ordinarily ill. Doesn’t stop you spreading it, either.

        1. I would be far more sympathetic to having to have the gene threrapy if:

          i) It prevented me from getting Covid 19;
          ii) If it prevented me from passing Covid on if I do get it;
          iii) If it could be guaranteed not to cause any side effects such as contracting diseases such myocarditis;
          iv) If it could also be guaranteed not to interfere with my natural immunity levels.

          More and more people we meet – both the injected and the un-injected – are beginning to wonder if this gene therapy is any good at all and if it is indeed more dangerous to have it than not to have it.

          I really don’t know. I am not fanatical on the subject. But what astonishes me is how vehemently incensed people become about the matter. Esther Ransome – about whom a fellow Nottler posted a couple of days ago – seems to think that people who have not had the gene therapy should not be given medical treatment and should be left to die as it would serve them right.

    3. Boring again

      I would like to see what the PTB would do if you quoted Article 9 of the Nuremberg Code

      Point 9

      During the course of the experiment the human subject should be at liberty to bring the experiment to an end if he has reached the physical

      or mental state where continuation of the experiment seems to him to be impossible.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Code

    4. All sorts of HR and equality legislation are being trampled by the so called liberal governments of Europe. Its quite shocking and will not be forgotten.

    4. Soon to be rolled out for 16 year olds, so that they can protect their Grannies. Regular booster shots needed.

  66. Robert Kennedy Jr’s new book is launched tomorrow:

    “The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health (Children’s Health Defense)”

    Here is the blurb- it looks like it should be a very enlightening read:

    Pharma-funded mainstream media has convinced millions of Americans that Dr. Anthony Fauci is a hero. He is anything but.
    As director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), Dr. Anthony Fauci dispenses $6.1 billion in annual taxpayer-provided funding for scientific research, allowing him to dictate the subject, content, and outcome of scientific health research across the globe. Fauci uses the financial clout at his disposal to wield extraordinary influence over hospitals, universities, journals, and thousands of influential doctors and scientists–whose careers and institutions he has the power to ruin, advance, or reward.

    During more than a year of painstaking and meticulous research, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. unearthed a shocking story that obliterates media spin on Dr. Fauci . . . and that will alarm every American–Democrat or Republican–who cares about democracy, our Constitution, and the future of our children’s health.

    The Real Anthony Fauci reveals how “America’s Doctor” launched his career during the early AIDS crisis by partnering with pharmaceutical companies to sabotage safe and effective off-patent therapeutic treatments for AIDS. Fauci orchestrated fraudulent studies, and then pressured US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulators into approving a deadly chemotherapy treatment he had good reason to know was worthless against AIDS. Fauci repeatedly violated federal laws to allow his Pharma partners to use impoverished and dark-skinned children as lab rats in deadly experiments with toxic AIDS and cancer chemotherapies.

    In early 2000, Fauci shook hands with Bill Gates in the library of Gates’ $147 million Seattle mansion, cementing a partnership that would aim to control an increasingly profitable $60 billion global vaccine enterprise with unlimited growth potential. Through funding leverage and carefully cultivated personal relationships with heads of state and leading media and social media institutions, the Pharma-Fauci-Gates alliance exercises dominion over global health policy.

    The Real Anthony Fauci details how Fauci, Gates, and their cohorts use their control of media outlets, scientific journals, key government and quasi-governmental agencies, global intelligence agencies, and influential scientists and physicians to flood the public with fearful propaganda about COVID-19 virulence and pathogenesis, and to muzzle debate and ruthlessly censor dissent.

    Robert Kennedy has been on tour in Europe- here’s a two minute video. He has spasmodic dysphonia which explains his rather odd voice.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjhkaEsTllM

    1. There is a theory that Robert Kennedy is controlled opposition whose first allegiance will always be to the owners of Vanguard. If true, then it would appear that Fauci has outlived his usefulness.

      1. Well. he’s no fan of Big Tech or Big Pharma and I assume that Vanguard owns plenty of Big Pharma but I do not have extensive knowledge of Vanguard or Black Rock but know they are extremely powerful behind the scenes.

    2. If this man is as evil as he appears to be – why is he still in post? What hold does he have over successive US administrations?

      1. I believe that Fauci is a busted flush. One commentator- a lawyer has suggested that he retires quickly and goes to live somewhere with no extradition treaty with the USA- he suggested Brazil. This commentator is close to Robert Kennedy and appears to be very well informed and knows stuff before everybody else.

        1. The “gain of function” emails appeared to be very damning – why didn’t they get rid of him then?

          1. If he’s embedded with the institutions and what generally gets called the Deep State, and he’s clearly a swamp creature, then he felt secure and would be protected- but he is now a major liability. Big Tech has failed to entirely close down the debate and free exchange of information but that is in the main because reality shows the approved narrative to be pretty warped at best and is now unsustainable.

          2. When one is involved in nefarious doings for the ultra rich, it is always just as well to remember that one can become a major liability overnight….after all, THEY are not going to take the can for anything, are they.

        2. I thought I read a couple of years ago that Merkel had bought a property in Brazil as well. I mean that!

        3. I thought I read a couple of years ago that Merkel had bought a property in Brazil as well. I mean that!

      1. Gushing, and 15 months on, less than perspicacious, but I feel par for the course among the self-congratulatory luvvy Lefties.

        1. I noted the date of the post and checked her Twitter and Facebook threads for some evidence of an awakening. There is none.

      3. I thought that was a rather good complete pee-take. Then I thought that perhaps the irony wasn’t quite defined enough.

        1. I wasn’t sure whether it was irony or not. It is always rather depressing when people innocently think that you are being literal when you are trying to be metaphorical or ironic.

      4. I thought that was a rather good complete pee-take. Then I thought that perhaps the irony wasn’t quite defined enough.

  67. Split pea soup for lunch today – utterly delicious.
    Can anyone advise me though – do you throw away the water you soak the peas in before cooking, or do you regard it as a valuable ingredient in its own right and make the soup with it?

        1. Only a very few years ago, I made an Autumn tour of the Harz region. There was the inevitable ascent of The Brocken by rail. At the top it was cold & misty (so much for the view) & only one restaurant was open They had a number of variations on the Erbensuppe theme, any one of which I was keen to try, but on close inspection of the menu, it was revealed that they all contained MSG.

          1. That is very poor considering that the smallest ski hut makes a great lentil soup without any of that nonsense.

    2. I just rinse peas before cooking. The pack of split dried peas says no need for a 24 hour soak.

      1. I seem to remember dried peas from my childhood requiring hours of soaking in water. The ones I am using are quite small and split, so as you say, they didn’t need that much. Shorter cooking time is good though.

        1. Yeah, dead easy, and you get such a nice texture after a good fairly long simmer. Quite a few of the other pulses need that 24 hour soak though, like lentils and kidney beans.

    3. You can use the liquid they were soaked in. Though it isn’t necessary to soak them, it just shortens the cooking time.

      It is advisable to at least rinse them because that way you will be able any to see any grit that might be there.

      2. Co-incidentally, today, I’m making some pease pudding, which is simply a thick pea soup served cold with ham and salad. I soak the dried yellow peas (I cannot get hold of split peas here in Sweden) in boiling water and a tsp of bicarb. 24 hours later (i.e. tomorrow) I shall drain them, then add just enough water to cover in a large stock pan before bringing them to the boil. After skimming off the floating skins that become detached, I cook them until softened. I then add some ham stock (or ham jelly) and chopped up pieces of ham, and a chopped onion that has been sweated in butter until soft. Season with white pepper (there will be sufficient salt in the ham), stir well and place into a large dish or pudding basin and cool in the fridge. This can, of course, also be warmed up and used as a soup, but I just love cold pease pudding, made the Northumberland/Durham way.

        Did you know that dried peas (and the soups made from them) were first brought to the country by the Viking invaders. That is why they are still most popular n the North, especially the area that was covered by the Danelaw. A Norwegian friend tells me that they have been popular in Norskland since the year dot.

        I used to make batches of pease pudding for colleagues at my last job at Norwich airport. They couldn’t get enought of them.

        1. I’m just guessing here but those countries have short Summers so a dried legume would be a good larder item.

          Your recipes are solid. :@)

      1. Brown Bear Cocktail

        1 oz of stoli pertsovka vodka

        1 oz coffee liqueur.

        Cheers ! Make mine a large one.

          1. That makes a ‘Dirty Mother’ doesn’t it, Lass?

            Hey, I managed not only an apostrophe but a comma as well.

          2. Who’s the mother, Nanners!

            I was told, by a Dane who had worked in Greenland, that vodka and kahlua was the drink of choice with the Innuit. I’ve tried it (not in Greenland, unfortunately). I think it was pretty strong. I can’t remember much…

          3. That’s a Black Russian. Probably not allowed to say that any more.

            After four Margarita’s and lord knows how many Black Russians i spent the first night of my holiday in Mater Dei Hospital.

          6. Seems i was being looked after. Though i cracked my head i only split my scalp. Lots of blood but i was okay after a couple of hours. No concussion.

            The next time however when i fell down the stone steps is a different story !

          7. On second thoughts, Lass, I think cream should be added – it’s many years since I had one.

            P.S. “Who’s the mother, Nanners!” that’s the same as asking on what beach, with regard to ‘Sex on The Beach.’

          9. Who’s the mother, Nanners!

            I was told, by a Dane who had worked in Greenland, that vodka and kahlua was the drink of choice with the Innuit. I’ve tried it (not in Greenland, unfortunately). I think it was pretty strong. I can’t remember much…

  70. Salmonella anyone ……….?
    No turkey shortage, says British Poultry Council
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/25e25f706828c00ea5a57a6d117751f974c14a69b52930542db78d5c767efa47.jpg

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59268523

    There will “definitely” be enough turkeys for Christmas, the British Poultry Council (BPC) has said.
    The pledge from the industry body came as the deadline closes to recruit thousands of temporary workers from the European Union to help process turkeys, amid widespread UK labour shortages.

          3. The butcher I used would bone out the bird (except for the drumsticks) lie it out flat, then layer it up with other meats and forcemeat items, before trussing it back up into a rough “chicken-shape”. After roasting it was simplicity itself to slice it like you would a loaf. It was beyond delicious.

      3. I share the Melancholy Jacques’s Justice’s partiality for lining his fair round belly with the meat of a good capon.

        We can still get capons in France but they have stopped allowing them in England because it is deemed cruel to castrate a cockerel even though it is perfectly acceptable to castrate a bull for beef. On the subject there should be a castration programme set up in England starting with rapists with the prime minister putting himself forward for the first cut pour encourager les autres.

        1. Perhaps we could start a rumour that castration cures covid. Mind, it would probably only encourage them to wear a frock and get arsy over trans rights?

          2. Depends what turns you on, Philip.

            Basque and stockings does it for me, though Liberty Bodice with Rubber Buttons seems to be Uncle Bill’s turn-on.

          4. Wow, blue screen crash and memory dump – Plum certainly has some pooter set-up there. Must see if I can INfiltrate.

            Wishes, hoping…

            I must clear all and re-boot.

    2. But, but, but the cr*p chicken, horse beef burgers etc have come from EU. We have thousands from the EU and elsewhere already on our benefits. Let ’em work for their keep, for once.

  71. I’m sitting here waiting for my new under the counter freezer; my old one having cocked its clogs last Thursday. As often as I press the Track your Package link (I think it’s about a hundred times now) it remains stuck just in front of the Out for Delivery box. One cannot of course go anywhere and do anything while this is happening. It would almost certainly arrive just as I disappeared around the corner! This prompts all sorts of questions. Do they only do one delivery per day? Are they on shifts? Do they hate me? Has Mi6 sequestered it for bugging? On one memorable occasion I tracked a television that I’d bought (the payment was up front) all the way from its home in Amazonland to my front door where it evaporated into cyberspace to be seen no more. My cash was refunded without explanation three days later! Another matter, I don’t know why, but my deliveries always come at the end of the day just as I’ve convinced myself they’ve been hijacked by the Russian Mob and settled down with a Book and a Beer. All this is well enough but I went through the same performance a fortnight ago when my Combination Oven decided to retire to that great Appliance Heaven in the Sky. Then I fell on my head! There is a familiarity to all this! Everything goes wrong at the same time! Hopefully I will be past the worst by Christmas!

    1. If it’s just above the Out for delivery – it is not being sent out yet. If it’s under the out for delivery, it is on it way to you. Who is the carrier?

        1. Hi, Minty.

          Don’t know them.

          Most of my deliveries come via, Amazon, Yodel, Hermes or DHL, none of which, despite the commas, are very effective.

          Yodel does at least give one a map, an identity of the driver’s whereabouts on that map in relation to you and the number of drops before you, together with an estimated (within 2 hours) delivery time.

          Maybe you should insist on your deliveries NOT being handled by APC Postal Logistics, on account of their failures.

    1. Don’t ever use the expressions, “car bomb” or “muslim”. The police won’t. MI5 won’t. The BBC won’t.

    2. He is brave.

      Just like the Batley teachers the Muslims will be after him, and he cannot expect any help from the Government.

  73. 341614+ up ticks,

    Live Liverpool bomber was of Middle Eastern background and not known to MI5 – latest updates

    Not surprising really good rail service Dover / Chatham / Bromley south /
    Victoria / taxi.

    1. Surprising that, within 90 minutes, a house had been entered and 3 arrested.

      Not Known, my ar5e!

  76. 341614+ up ticks,

    May one ask,
    If this issue escalates will a call up be mandatory ?

    Boris Govt Sends Troops to Defend Polish Border, Chastises Putin as Macron Lets Boat Migrants Flood UK

    2. “Boris Govt Sends Troops to Defend Polish Border”

      All 10 REME engineers – adept in razor-wire border control?

    1. He probably meant what he said. There is a lot of support for Palestinian and other terrorist groups in the Labour party

      2. With the numbers coming ashore in Kent,there’s a lot of support from the Tory party too.

    3. More likely that he didn’t know enough except someone was killed.

      He’s reacting with a platitude.

    1. I am still waiting to learn whether or not Owen Paterson broke the rules as far as declaring his financial interests were concerned. And if he did declare these interests properly did he lobby on behalf of the firms which paid him and if so how did he do it and what did he actually do?

      Owen Paterson claimed that far from lobbying on his firms’ behalf he drew attention to serious dangers in their products and his actions safeguarded the public. He produced no fewer that 17 witnesses to confirm this but Bryant and Stone did not examine their evidence or interview them. Furthermore they never even questioned Paterson himself in person..

      I am strongly under the impression that Paterson was stitched up and that his colleagues are too lily-livered and scared of taking his side openly. I very much hope that Owen Paterson decides to fight his corner resolutely and prove his innocence.

      Marsupially speaking his “trial” was not even held in a kangaroo court – it was held in a lesser wombat court.

      1. The key question surely is: ‘did the firms profit from his intervention?’. I would suggest the exact opposite, as removing dangerous substances from their products would actually cost them loads of wonga.

      2. I too have a nasty feeling that Conservative Party internal politics have reached a new low.
        Nobbling candidates before the election starts, now.

        1. Well, he could always stand as a Reform candidate. He’d be a shoo-in as well as sticking two fingers up to his ex-Party.

    2. “Top 10 MPs with the biggest second incomes – that could pay for 86 Met police officers”
      But would these 86 cops be woke and enabling the ‘Insulate’ mob, gay pride marches etc?

  84. I am exhausted, took the dogs for a lovely gallop nr Arne . Sun has been shining , to hell with housework , Moh was up early to play golf , and I went out .

    The countryside was very quiet re not many people around .. oh yes there were the eerie screams in the distance from randy Sika deer males in woodland

    Stonechats were hopping around in the furzey , making quite a din and I think I saw a flock of fieldfares , they were so fast flying over head , certainly not starlings .

    The russet colours of bracken , beeches, birches and oaks in the distance were a painters paradise .

    In the distance were the toots of a steam train travelling probably from Corfe Castle to Swanage . I could see moving chuffing smoke in the distance .I expect they will soon be starting their Santa special , which is a sight to behold https://www.swanagerailway.co.uk/events/christmas.

    Oh dear , my younger dog vanished from view for an uncomfortable five minutes , I have a dog whistle , so I double tooted him in , no Pip, he older dog 13+ is now as deaf as a post .. so have to use hand signals , back to basics .

    Pip appeared and galloped towards me , the whole of his left shoulder neck and hairy ear smothered in a dark tarry substance , FOX POO .. his collar was encrusted and he stank !

    I bunged him in the dog cage in the back of the car, and encouraged the older one to get in the footwell passenger side . The car whiffed , left the windows open and drove home .

    We have a tube of https://www.petsathome.com/shop/en/pets/fox-poo-dog-shampoo-250ml , which is brilliant ..

    I must have been home ten minutes before Moh rolled up from golf .. He was very good , he said he would wash Pip in the double kitchen sink . front end in one sink , rear end in the other, and he put his mucky job rubber glves on , and shampooed the dog , phew what a smell .. Pip’s collar was thick with mucky sticky stuff.

    Used up 4 dog towels which are now in the wash .. Hey ho , but why are dogs always attracted to fox poo.
    ,

    1. So that’s what foxed means…

      Bad luck, Mags. My late hound used to roll in and eat horse droppings….

        1. …and even beside the seaside, Phillip, Our Cocker Spaniel, Chas would roll in dead seagulls and any other decaying matter he could find.

    3. Oscar rolled in fox poo this morning too, just like yesterday, except it was my turn to shower him. We have that identical shampoo and it is very good. I sometimes suspect he does it because he loves the towelling off so much after his wash.

      2. They just love being towelled down , in fact Jack spaniel the older one was queueing up for a rub down as well , even though he hadn’t been bathed .

      3. Thankfully, my Oscar hasn’t yet because he is a nightmare to bath and he doesn’t like being towelled down.

      1. Hello DB.

        Yes that makes a helluva lot of sense , I have never ever known a spaniel to roll in cow muck , always fox pooh or a dead fish , yeugh .

  85. Just in from a couple of hours in the garden. Two large crates of kindling gathered. Also picked a tray and a half of Bramleys. We now have five trays – which is astonishing considering (a) in February 2020 all the apple trees were pruned to within an inch of their lives – and (b) they were all hit by the very late – and very hard – frost in May. So we are delighted! Ladder work accomplished without incident.

    Depressing, though, to see the sunset at 3.30… Still, only five weeks and the nights start drawing out…. Hooray.

    1. I’ll repeat, Bill, Hooray.

      I think I suffer from SAD – Seasonal Adjustment Disorder. Probably from working for a few years in Scandinavia (Sweden and Norway)

  87. Spectacular sunset – golden and rosy. The sort that looks magnificent but won;t come out in a photograph!

      1. Why are some peoples (Chinese must be top) so fond of eating something that died with the most inhuman pain possible? These people are sick, sick, SICK.

    2. The problem with bans is that those doing the banning never stop looking for other things to ban.

      By all means encourage people to avoid any product but I believe outright bans are a very slippery slope.

      I am sure there are many people who would be very happy to ban sherry, for example.

        1. Animals and birds are “discouraged” from eating the grapes. Oak trees are felled for the barrels destroying significant habitats.

          The banning brigade don’t care, they just want to ban anything they disapprove of.

          1. IIRC, the lynx was threatened with extermination in Portugal a few years ago through the felling of cork oaks which were a significant part of its habitat. When I’m shopping for wine & co., I go for screw caps over corks, not so much for the lynx, but for the sake of my arthritic fingers.

          3. Indeed they are. if I encounter a stubborn one, I have a pair of nutcrackers handy (also for water bottles) with which I can grip the cap while i turn the bottle. I have a German gadget in the kitchen for dealing with jars & bottles.

          4. The gadget with the rubber band that can be tightened on the cap? Lifesaver. It used to be really messy opening bottles and jars with hammer and chisel.

          7. #Me too. Haven’t got arthritic fingers ( right knee is) but the screw tops are easier and also, we can never find the cork screw when we need it.

          9. Ours is supposed to be in the utensil drawer but seems to change location. I suspect MH is the culprit as he never knows where anything goes. To be fair though, we have only been here coming up to 6 months. We were 5 years in the last place however and he still couldn’t find anything.

          11. Mine, too (along with the champagne opening set, the vacuum stopper set, a cork stopper and the champagne preserver). The decanting kit is in the cupboard below 🙂

          20. You can just get into the wine more quickly with a screw top…! I used to abhor the metal screw tops; the corkscrew and cork and ‘pop’ as you lifted out the cork, all part of the ritual. Now I just love screw tops… I can’t be bothered with the mystic/romance of the ritual any more. Actually not had anything alcoholic for well over a month now.

          23. As have we- and why not? Despite what this sham of a govt thinks, we are old enough to make up our own minds about many things. And if I want a glass or several of wine, I shall have them ;-))

          27. Well – poppiesdad is trying to reduce the carbs and sugar from his diet before his blood test…. I said I’d keep him company. He has lost a stone in just over a month or so (and he didn’t need to) I may have lost a couple pounds…. ‘snot fair! So in the interests of our health we have decided to keep our abstinence going until Christmas. I have to say that after the first two weeks or so I did notice I was sleeping better and more soundly. So on the one hand, I sleep better with no alcohol, but on the other hand, I do love a glass of wine in the evening.

          28. I share your sentiments!! I need to lose some lbs so have cut back quite a lot. I have also found that I sleep a lot better and feel more refreshed in the morning. Very depressing, I do love my glass (or two) with dinner!!

        2. In some parts of Spain it is the olive harvest that is fatal for migratory birds; tractor powered devices are used to shake the olive trees at night which causes sleeping birds to fall into trailers, where they die.

    3. I can’t imagine the duck is alive when put into a Meat grinder as all the feathers must have been plucked and all the stomach, intestine and their contents would be in the mix which would surely be inedible even to the French.

      1. It’s the newly hatched females that are ground up not the males which are the ones used for foie gras.

    4. In the UK unwanted fertile eggs with chicks in them were macerated before being disposed of. It may still be a means of disposing them.

  89. UK terror threat raised to SEVERE: Boris says Britain ‘must remain vigilant’ as it emerges Poppy Day ‘suicide bomber was from Middle East and UNKNOWN to MI5’ – as footage shows armed cops force man out of Liverpool home linked to hospital IED blast
    A taxi exploded as it pulled up outside Liverpool Women’s Hospital yesterday, killing the one male passenger
    The explosion came at 10:57am, just before the 11am Remembrance two minute silence was due to be held
    Counter-terror police are leading the investigation amid fears the passenger who died was a suicide bomber
    Taxi driver David Perry was hailed hero by friends who said he locked the ‘suspicious’ man in his car
    Friends said that the passenger originally wanted taking to Liverpool’s Remembrance Sunday service nearby
    Three men – aged 21, 26 and 29 – were arrested under Terrorism Act in raids in Liverpool yesterday afternoon
    Today fourth man, 20, arrested on suspicion of the same terror offence, close to property raided last night
    Mr Perry suffered relatively minor injuries and has already been released from hospital, friends have said
    Did you witness any of Sunday’s events in Liverpool? And do you know the man in the high-viz jacket in the video? Email tips@mailonline.co.uk or martin.robinson@mailonline.co.uk
    By MARTIN ROBINSON, CHIEF REPORTER FOR MAILONLINE

    PUBLISHED: 09:26, 15 November 2021 | UPDATED: 16:18, 15 November 2021 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10203173/Moment-Poppy-Day-car-bomb-EXPLODES-Video-shows-taxi-stop-outside-Liverpool-Womens-Hospital.html?ito=push-notification&ci=LdqyxJ4eOE&cri=wbXxQKypEc&si=26738248&ai=10203173

      1. Why did you delete it ?

        Oh yes , and of course there are far too many Asians in Yorkshire County Cricket Club .. and if they are , well that is to draw in the crowds of Asians living in the UK, because they love cricket , but their loyalties aren’t necessarily with the County team they are playing for .

        1. “Why did you delete it ?”

          Old news – the link was to the summoning of the Yorkshire CCC chairman.

        2. Didn’t Stormin’ Normin Tebbit have something to say about the sports team you support showing where your true loyalties lie?

  90. 341614+ up ticks,

    Farage Brands Austrian Lockdown for Unvaxxed ‘Dark Times for Freedom and Liberty’

    Avatar
    englandpatriot • 5 minutes ago
    Farage stood down all Brexit Party candidates so Johnson could impose his authoritarian agenda totally unopposed so he has no room to talk.

    1. I don’t think Farage was gifted with clairvoyance any more than the rest of us who just voted to get Brexit done. We certainly didn’t ask for health fascism.

      1. Why Nigel didn’t realise in the first few days after the result that the battle wasn’t won, I can’t imagine. It became clear from Cameron’s immediate resignation that the PTB weren’t prepared to give in and submit to the will of the people. I was shocked and surprised at the lack of democracy, but I never expected it to get anything but worse after that.

      1. 341618+ up ticks,
        Evening M,
        No I know,after a hard day ( slavery) I was lax it letting that go by, I stand correct.

  92. News from central Europe;
    A 12 year old girl (unvaccinated) has been practising a piano piece for 6 months. Next week, there is a concert, at which various influential musicians and promoters will be present. It could be her big break.
    Vaccination is now mandatory for everyone 12 and over at this event.

  93. Boris Johnson says British people will ‘never be cowed’ by terrorism. 15 November 2021.

    Boris Johnson has said that Britain will “never be cowed” by acts of terror after the Liverpool Women’s Hospital blast.
    Speaking in Downing Street on Monday, Mr Johnson said the attack “is a stark reminder of the need for us all to remain utterly vigilant” against terrorism.

    He said: “What yesterday showed above all is that the British people will never be cowed by terrorism, or give in to those who seek to divide us with senseless acts of violence. Our freedoms and our way of life will always prevail.”

    This is truly vomit inducing stuff. He’s the head of a Police State and a government of which not one member could be found to speak up on behalf of Batley Man!

    https://inews.co.uk/news/liverpool-womens-hospital-terror-attack-boris-johnson-press-conference-1301540

    1. The British people have been subjected to a sustained terror attack by the government for the last 20 months!

    2. Boris Johnson has said that Britain will “never be cowed” by acts of terror…
      Oh, I didn’t realise we were being tested.

  94. DT: Rolling News: The Prime minister today

    “We will never give in to those who seek to divide us with senseless violence”

    The odious and treacherous oaf gave in, surrendered, capitulated, threw in the towel (select whichever synonym you want) – when he decided not to honour his commitment to taking back control of our borders.

    He himself divided us when he showed the indigenous population that they were of less importance than the hordes of invaders and that our history, culture, sense of morality and propriety and religious beliefs were there to be knocked over, defiled and abused by the invaders and nothing would be done to stop them.

    How many potential terrorists have entered Britain illegally and will never be deported? And is it already too late for the enfeebled British people to rise up Crying Havoc? And where is someone with the fire of Shakespeare’s Mark Antony in his or her belly to inspire us and lead out of the tyranny?

  95. Doncha just lurve statistics? From The Grimes just now:

    “The failure of the Immensa laboratory in Wolverhampton, which resulted in around 43,000 people being incorrectly told they were not infected, led to between 26,000 and 67,000 extra cases, a new study has estimated.

    At present fatality rates that would imply that around 100 people died who would not have had the testing system been working properly. However, other statisticians were cautious about interpreting the results, saying that too many uncertainties remained for a clear estimate.”

  97. Caroline found a word we thought was a neologism in Le Figaro today. We were wrong, its first recorded use was in 1701

    Le Liberticide – the deliberate killing of liberty which French politicians and civil serpents are practising with every bit as much fervour as the British ones are.

    2. I came across “eidectic” in a Reginal Hill DL and Pascoe book. I had never come across this word but some of you may recognise it as someone with a photographic memory

      1. My mother was blessed with one. Her great problem was that she could never understand why her children found rote learning difficult.

        1. I checked it before I posted but my memory fails me a lot of the time. Sheer carelessness on my part. Thanks for correcting me.

    3. The word is used in Shelley’s poem England in 1819 which I posted t’other night.

      “An army, whom liberticide and prey
      Makes as a two edged sword to all who wield.”

      Nothing changes does it?

    4. To my shame I have just spotted I made a disgraceful mistake with the use of an apostrophe but I hope that, like Basil Faulty said about mentioning the war once in front of the Germans, “I think I got away with it.” At least nobody mentioned my typo which I have corrected.

    1. BoB has an uncanny ability to bring tears to my eyes.
      Cue Bob3, who shines bright eyes on darkened places

    2. One of the reasons I decided to have the vaccination, I couldn’t bare the thought of being alone having caught the disease.

  99. That Schwab “arrest” story. Can’t find anything anywhere. Even if it were true, I imagine he has sufficient money and contacts for it all to go away like a puff of smoke.

    1. There were lots of links.
      Surprise surprise, EU privacy legislation closed down the majority…

      1. I tried some of the links – the top one – Sue Cook on Twitter – she’s now doubting the veracity of the report. The Indian one is just garbled repetition. Nobody seems to know if it’s true or not. Maybe wishful thinking.

        1. When it first appeared there were numerous legible links, some to reputable sources; as the day has passed it appears they are being taken down.
          Coincidence regarding “power”? I don’t think so.

    2. That is a direct attack on democracy, and people aren’t rioting about it?
      The lights are going out over Europe.
      See my post below about the government forcing a 12 year old to get vaccinated or give up her dreams.

  101. Did I miss the mass march by Merseyside slammers condemning the would-be murderer? “Not in our name” etc etc… (Yawns).

  102. That’s me for the day. Grey all day – but no breeze – so working outside was quite pleasant. Really pleased to have so many apples.

    Have a jolly evening.

    A demain.

  104. Evening, all. What should drop on my mat this morning but an appeal from the RNLI! They are havin’ a giraffe. Why would I waste good money on donating to an institution that facilitates illegal entry for my hard-earned taxes to be further wasted on putting up said illegals in hotels?

    1. If we could expel one woke lefty for every illegal gimmegrunt arriving, I can’t help thinking we would be better off.

      The caveat being that woke lefty’s tend to be wealthy and likely to be paying tax.

  107. Nicked

    Ain’t THAT the truth………

    “It’s strange how the government and MSM treat events that the government
    has the power to prevent as if they were caused by some inexorable laws
    of nature whilst treating events caused by inexorable laws of nature as
    if the government had some power to prevent them.”

  109. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2fa2293aa0fb5040e2da77cfff4768b94a6fe8dffe1af6b187871112245c8d8b.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/32c2881a3c4c05ab97d981c001626ef5cc8b9dbd41f54883a67f651bd9f68309.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/726436ffdedbe099d16ea390ecfb5cbe51aa35f4f9f2749305b49256c2720dfd.png Where’s Paul? Come on, mate, you need to make your country’s politicians get their act together. Giving out licences to destroy songbirds is barbaric. Letting Wops off with a measly fine for their massacre is an abomination!

    1. I haven’t seen a thrush for years. This makes me utterly sick. The fines were far too small.

        1. How lovely. I do miss them. Not sure why they disappeared near us – there is far more woodland and wildlife than there was forty years ago.

          4. That’s the wise thrush; he sings each song twice over,.
            Lest you should think he never could recapture.
            The first fine careless rapture!

            [Robert Browning: Home Thoughts from Abroad]

    3. There should be no hunting at all of birds like this. No wonder our birdlife is diminishing. I didn’t know they were so barbaric in Norway.

      1. That is so. However in Scotland and other areas where there are estates that carry out sport shooting of grouse and pheasants, there is an ongoing slaughter of raptors. The fines are trivial and are only ever levied on the gamekeepers and not the lairds.
        There are various laws in place but they are entirely ineffectual in keeping the raptors safe.

        2. In Dava Sobel’s excellent book: Galileo’s Daughter: A Drama of Science, Faith and Love, in one of her letters she writes to her father that she is sending him two thrushes (for the pot)…..

    6. I really don’t understand the desire to shoot tiny birds that are all reather and no flesh. If they aren’t good eating, why kill the poor little buggers?
      If you want a flying target, get clays.
      Barstewards.

      1. Appalling.
        I spend time filling peanut feeders and put fat balls out for the birds every day. It’s one of life’s small pleasures to see birds return to the table including a very cheeky robin.

        1. Thing is, it’s legal. Why would there ne restrictions of something nobody does? – until a crew of wops roll up.

          2. Culture clash. Make illegal something the locals don’t do just ‘cos scumbags from abroad do it… Best keep the buggers out altogether.

        2. I bought 25 Kg of peanuts in the UK and was worried they might get confiscated at customs.
          Fortunately not, and the birds are enjoying them and the red squirrels are checking them out too.

  110. STOP PRESS

    The fund for the taxi driver has exceeded the £20,000 target.

    In my book he deserves contributions rather more than that elderly chap last year – the millions generated there just disappeared into …where?

      1. It is beyond satire:

        The Prime Minister said: “What yesterday showed above all is that the British people will never be cowed by terrorism, we will never give in to those who seek to divide us with senseless acts of violence.

        “And our freedoms and our way of life will always prevail.””

        1. That last sentence is particularly ironic, given the way they’ve locked us down, made us wear face coverings and are curtailing any excursions due to enforced “vaccinations”!

          1. Precisely. There are draconian rules for the indigenous population yet no rules whatsoever for the illegal immigrants.

            This simply has to be by design.

        2. Boris is a piece of sh*t. I have never heard so many platitudes in my life as this pathetic, useless excuse for a government churns out on an hourly basis.
          Stop these buggers coming in by the boat load and disappearing into the hinterland. Stop dishing out soft, pointless sentences and crack down on these people.
          I am so disgusted and angry with all this that I can barely be coherent.

          1. You are completely right, and it is demoralising. How to stay sane among all these lies? I don’t know, turning off the TV and avoiding the media helps, but sometimes it still just gets too much. Take care.

        3. No, we won’t give in, but you arrest us when we point out the truth. You hide the facts. You hide that these creatures are psychotic vermin. You stop the police investigating the mechanised rape of children around the country, all by muslims. You write a report blaming white men yet it’s always muslims.

          Change our way of life? You’ve forced us to change to accommodate the terrorist. You’ve normalised their violence and thuggery. Our way of life has been destroyed by the spite and hatred of the state.

        5. Boris thinks we are not afraid of being bombed or maimed by terrorists but we should be terrified of a malady with an extremely low mortality rate.

    2. Didn’t stop the Vikings in the past who went on to rape and pillage. However, the women up North have not forgotten the rapes and even today they still mutter:”Should be bloody well hung like a Norse….”

    1. Good. Pile them on the coaches and then put them on a ferry.

      If you want to save the fuel, blow the swine up.

  115. “Liverpool bomber named as 32-year-old Emad Al Swealmeen”

    Rats, I was sure it was one of the Bedfordshire Al Swealmeens but he could be from the Shropshire sub-branch.

  116. Our asylum system is broken. It’s time to rip it up and start again

    With tough, decisive action the Government can take back control of the crisis in the Channel

    NICK TIMOTHY

    It is a testament to the lack of seriousness with which many MPs are treating the crisis in the English Channel that, even as the number of people arriving illegally in Britain runs at more than a thousand a day, many have chosen to debate whether asylum seekers should be allowed the right to work.

    Such a policy would be a disaster, and yet another “pull factor” that draws people to Britain. After all, the many thousands of people in France and across Europe who would like to come here are not fleeing persecution, for they are in safe countries already. They are, as the Home Secretary, Priti Patel, has said, mostly economic migrants who choose to come to our country because of the opportunities they believe are on offer.

    Britain is a draw for many reasons. The English language is the language of the world. We have many diaspora communities here, where newcomers can find help and fit in. And despite the self-flagellation of our liberal left, we are more tolerant, open-minded and less racist than perhaps any other European country.

    Our economy, society and public services are more open than anywhere on the continent. We have no system of ID cards and no culture of registration with the authorities for administrative purposes. We have a deregulated labour market and a significant problem with illegal working in the black economy. We have public services that are free at the point of use, which do not require evidence of insurance payments, and will tend to health problems and educate children without asking too many questions and without sharing information with the immigration authorities.

    All in all, it is little surprise that we have a problem with illegal immigration. We cannot know the number of illegal immigrants in Britain, but an idea of the country’s draw, and our inability to even understand the scale of our inadequate systems and policies, can be drawn from the numbers who came here using free movement rights during our EU membership. The authorities had believed 3.7 million Europeans were living in the UK, but when the scheme allowing EU nationals to stay after Brexit opened, 5.6 million came forward.

    So the draw is clear, but there is another factor, and that is the extreme difficulties we have in removing people with no right to be here. Advised by criminal people smugglers and activist lawyers and charities, illegal immigrants play the system and often beat the Government hands-down. When a visa runs out, sometimes the migrant claims asylum. Often migrants destroy their papers to make it difficult to prove their country of origin. Even with papers proving nationality, governments of home countries often deny responsibility for their citizens. Asylum claimants and illegal immigrants launch constant appeals, often at the last minute, and mostly citing human rights laws. Such laws mean the authorities give three days’ notice before a deportation takes place, causing many individuals to disappear. Coached defendants often claim to be homosexuals from homophobic countries, victims of modern slavery and pillars of their local community with an established family life in Britain.

    Add all of this up and it becomes clear that tinkering and reforming the system will not do. We need a wholly new model, in which the genuinely needy get support, economic migrants no longer abuse the asylum system, migrants do not believe they can get to Britain illegally, and those who are here illegally are removed promptly.

    The Government has made some tentative steps in this direction. It has spent generously in the countries surrounding states in crisis, like Syria and Afghanistan, and created specific asylum schemes for the most vulnerable. It has, starting under Labour and continuing through the Coalition and Conservative governments, attempted to make day-to-day life practically difficult for people who are in the country illegally.

    But it has not yet gone the whole hog. Identity cards, or at least public service access cards, would help to distinguish between legal and illegal residents. Much tougher penalties – eye-watering fines, the closure of premises, directorship bans and even custodial sentences – for company executives who employ illegal immigrants and the landlords who house them would help. Appeal rights should be removed and human rights laws reformed. Countries who refuse to accept their own returning citizens should face visa restrictions.

    In the end, offshore processing – when asylum applicants are held in another country or territory while their case is considered – is the best way to stop people trying to get to Britain to abuse the system. The Home Secretary appears sympathetic to the argument, but it will take time to identify where the processing should occur and to address legal complications that arise from human rights laws. If ministers could induce third countries to provide refuge for asylum seekers rather than Britain, that might prove faster. Internationally, the Refugee Convention – drafted in a different era and no longer fit for purpose – will need to be changed, and if we cannot change the European Convention on Human Rights, Britain should be prepared to leave it.

    None of these solutions will fix the crisis in the Channel overnight. And ministers urgently need to find a solution. With a presidential election coming and strained relations overall, a deal with France to stem the flow might seem difficult. But similar agreements over refugee camps in Sangatte have been negotiated before, and the French must understand that the greater the number of migrants who are able to cross the Channel, the more will keep coming to France.

    If a deal cannot be done, emergency legislation – introducing lengthy sentences in special immigration detention facilities for those who enter the country illegally, come from a safe country and refuse to leave Britain – should be introduced, notwithstanding legal obligations imposed by the Refugee Convention and European Convention on Human Rights.

    This would be controversial, but in defiance of the criticism and taking on inevitable legal challenges, the Government must grip the situation, send a clear signal to the traffickers and illegal immigrants that the game is up, and stop the boats. Enough is enough.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/11/14/asylum-system-broken-time-rip-start/

    NT mentions only briefly ‘illegal working in the black economy’ and ‘the landlords who house them’. Tackling this is vital to deterrence. Tax and benefit fraud should be pursued with a great deal more vigour by HMRC and DWP. Local authorities also deal with housing benefit fraud but should also clamp down on planning law breaches. Bunk houses are not just a phenomenon of the Polish builder period – they persist to this day throughout the South Asian population (as we are supposed to call them), whatever their ethnicity or religion.

    Four years ago, there was particularly bad case in the East Midlands of benefit fraud coupled with slave labour. The guilty were all Polish:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-40792109

    There have been others. Couple these with the gangmasters at work in the east of England and the Channel Ferry service and you have a vast nationwide conspiracy against the British people, costing the nation tens of billions every year.

    I hesitate to use the clichéd phrase ‘multi-agency approach’ but that is what’s required. Flush out some of the big players and watch the rest flee like rats.

    1. If government actually tackled benefit fraud we could scrap the base rate tax band. It’s that much money stolen.

  117. Just a quiche……..😊🤗

    Tonight at 21:00 BBC 4 Blood and Gold episode one.
    Make sure yawl see the rest of the episodes, you’ll find it hard to believe how many kidnapped fair skinned children children those bastards had locked away for their pleasure and leisure.
    This is about the beginning of the end of Europe. Today we witness the Second attempt and our politicians roll over.

      1. Why, dammit? These creatures are a cancer. They bring nothing, they haven’t integrated, they’re alien, just sat there consuming resources.

        A good starting point would be to phase out housing benefit and child benefit. Get rid of those by 2025. No need for tax hikes then, in fact we could have countless tax cuts.

        1. Because the mosque block vote is the difference between being elected or not,all of our politicians will happily suck Moslem cock for votes
          See Steve Baker for more details

    2. Imagine if a Christian church attempted to ring bells like that in Mecca or Riyadh.

      It would be destroyed within hours

      1. This is how far it;s gone in twenty years it started with the non European clothing, the people themselves have never collectively contributed through earnings, enough money to build more than about 6 mosques, but the Saudi’s have been funding their slow but sure indifference and insurgence which will one day lead to wide spread insurrection. In a roundabout (oil) way we have funded our own demise.

        1. We are our own worst enemy.
          For every Muslim terrorist attack demolish 20 mosques.
          Expel all registered members to Saudi.

          Start with the largest.

        2. Remember that our very own Prince Charles has an affinity with the Saudi ‘Royals’.

          Should Charles succeed to the throne we are doomed as a Christian nation.

          1. My father was in north Africa, Egypt and Algeria during WW2 he said to me time and time again “Never trust and arab son”.

    4. The end is coming. Soon. This is beginning all over Europe.

      I know how the Jewish people felt in Germany.

    5. If a Christian arrived in a car with a powerful speaker system and played “Onward Christian Soldiers” to drown out the call to kill, there would be a riot and I can guarantee that the police would support the anti-Christian rioters.

        2. We do. I asked all the heads of the main Christian churches (AoC, Cardinals etc) to ring the bells on All Saints a few years ago. I got the brush off from those who replied.

    6. Notable that no mosques have ever been blown up, suicide bombeed, etc etc. It’s always Christian places, innocents.

      When there is harmless activity around them the media leaps to their defence. Maybe that’s needed is a significant campaign of removing these creatures as no, it’s not part of living in a big city. They’re guests, and when they over stay their welcome, they go.

    7. Bloody awful building. How was such a monstrosity allowed under the planning laws that apply to the rest of us?

      The call to prayer or whatever it is sounds like the death pangs of a shot dog.

  119. 341618+ up ticks,

    May one ask,
    How did the likes of these peoples get into positions of power playing both
    attack & defence within the party for the benefit of their members to salve their consciences, has now gone completely OTT.

    Surely you cannot put the nation on high alert telling the herd it must be vigilant at the same time as playing footsie with the french regarding letting in 20000 plus potential troops / paedophiles / terrorists.

    I may be an ex long term fruitcake but I do know when I am being betrayed.

  120. 341618+ up ticks,

    May one ask,
    How did the likes of these peoples get into positions of power playing both
    attack & defence within the party for the benefit of their members to salve their consciences, has now gone completely OTT.

    Surely you cannot put the nation on high alert telling the herd it must be vigilant at the same time as playing footsie with the french regarding letting in 20000 plus potential troops / paedophiles / terrorists.

    I may be an ex long term fruitcake but I do know when I am being betrayed.

  122. England penalty.
    That is the worst decision that I think I have ever seen in football.
    How could the feather touch have possibly affected the end position of the ball to England’s disadvantage?
    An utter nonsense.
    I won’t watch the rest.

    1. It looked as if they have the third team reserves playing, most of the San Marino players are part timers.
      San Marino is a nice place though.

  125. https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-aren-t-we-more-horrified-by-the-liverpool-bombing-

    Why are we no longer surprised? Because we know what will happen. We know big state will ignore it, regardless of how many die. We’ve stopped caring because there’s no point. The entire edifice is determined to force this on us and has no interest in stopping the tide of murderous psychotics.

    More, it protects them and attacks us. Why be bothered when the state machine actively attacks those questioning it?

  126. More on Klaus Schwab – I asked a Swiss contact.

    Klaus Schwab of Davos and Reset fame has been arrested on a Europol (not
    notice a European Arrest Warrant) on charges of fraudulent conversion
    and money with menaces. Moderna whose morning mail I just got to,
    AstraZ, Pfizer and J&J are all in the act. He was originally
    arrested yesterday, let go by the Genevois rozors – he lives in Cologny
    but rearrested at Zuerich Hauptbahnhof again this evening. It’s all to
    do with the pandemic. My WHO/EMA contact says PPE equipment is also
    involved.

    1. Thanks for the info, Ndovu. Hopefully this is the beginning of the end. Perhaps due to Reiner Fuellmich’s efforts? What is the difference, the significance of, a European Arrest Warrant and a Europol warrant?

      1. I’m not sure of the difference – my contact thinks he will get away with it as he has powerful friends and is one of the elite anyway.

        Our MSM is keeping it very quiet.

        1. He’s as big as Fauci. My guess is they will make it go away until he stinks so much that he will have to be sacrificed.

  130. I posted a comment earlier which was rather rude; it says it is pending although I have 2 upvotes. I can’t think that it would offend too many on here. Anyway, time I took another leave of absence.

    2. I’ve approved it – I don’t know why it went into pending, as we’ve no banned words here. Though I did try putting some of the spammers’ phrases into the restricted word file. It didn’t make much difference.

      Anyway – no need to leave us.

    3. “I posted a comment earlier which was rather rude;”
      Can’t see it Lotl, you’ll have to repost it. Open mic was stunning. The pub is coming on a bundle with the new landlord.

  131. Good night all.
    .
    Pan-seared pheasant breast with garlic & juniper berries. Mini roast potatoes with garlic & rosemary. The rest of that Chilean Pinotage.
    Torta di Gorgonzola.
    Plump mango cheeks baked with rum – my own creation, came to me in a dream 4 nights ago.

    2. That’s much better, Peter A; it makes a welcome change from stuffed duck, fox-poo and horse shit earlier this evening …

    3. Good morning Peter

      Are your delicious main meals delivered to you by a pukka gourmet outfit ?

      I love game , but it is a phaff to fiddle around with , I just pop mine in tin foil in the oven with herbs and perhaps orange slices.

      Years ago when I used to attend local shoots with my dogs , we were always given birds , now I buy them from the butcher , ready prepared.

      I wasn’t a pheasant pluckers daughter .

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