Monday 16 June: Those who spoke up for victims of grooming gangs deserve an apology

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  3. Morning, all Y'all.
    Sunny! No dark last night, but slept well anyway. Garden work was the key.

  4. Good morning, chums. And thanks, Geoff, for today's new NoTTLe page.

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  6. Good morning Geoff and all the other NoTTLers. Here is a Monday Chuckle about a supportive wife. I hope I haven't posted it before:

    A married couple were celebrating their fiftieth wedding anniversary. The husband asked the wife: "Darling, have you ever cheated on me?"
    "What a strange quest on to ask after all these years," she said. "But, if you must know, yes, I have cheated on you. Three times."
    The husband was saddened by this admission but wanted to know when.
    She said: "The first time was when you were 31. Remember you wanted to start a business but no bank would give you a loan? And remember how the bank president came to our house in person and signed the papers? Well…
    The husband was touched. "You mean, you slept with the president of the bank so that I could start up my business? That's the kindest thing anyone's ever done for me. When was the second occasion?"
    "Remember when you were 48 you had a heart attack and no surgeon would operate on you? And then Dr Forrest came all the way up here to carry out the surgery himself, and after that you were in good shape again? Well ..
    The husband was genuinely moved. "So you slept with Dr Forrest to save my life? What a wonderful woman you are! And when was the third time?"
    "Remember how a few years ago when you really wanted to be president of the golf club? But you were 52 votes short?"

  7. Good morning Geoff and all the other NoTTLers. Here is a Monday Chuckle about a supportive wife. I hope I haven't posted it before:

    A married couple were celebrating their fiftieth wedding anniversary. The husband asked the wife: "Darling, have you ever cheated on me?"
    "What a strange quest on to ask after all these years," she said. "But, if you must know, yes, I have cheated on you. Three times."
    The husband was saddened by this admission but wanted to know when.
    She said: "The first time was when you were 31. Remember you wanted to start a business but no bank would give you a loan? And remember how the bank president came to our house in person and signed the papers? Well…
    The husband was touched. "You mean, you slept with the president of the bank so that I could start up my business? That's the kindest thing anyone's ever done for me. When was the second occasion?"
    "Remember when you were 48 you had a heart attack and no surgeon would operate on you? And then Dr Forrest came all the way up here to carry out the surgery himself, and after that you were in good shape again? Well ..
    The husband was genuinely moved. "So you slept with Dr Forrest to save my life? What a wonderful woman you are! And when was the third time?"
    "Remember how a few years ago when you really wanted to be president of the golf club? But you were 52 votes short?"

    1. Where is the trust now? Who believes these folk?
      "Is it true or did you hear it on the BBC?" used to be a joke… nobody's laughing now.

    1. "The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers… "

      โ€” Recep Tayyip ErdoฤŸan ยท

      The domes and minarets are now rather more formidable.

    1. She does a good sneer doesn't she. Just how do people like her get elected, beyond belief.

  13. Mr Blue Sky
    9h
    Jones is a compulsive liar. He also claimed on GB News that we have signed trade deals with the US, EU and India since April. No such deals have been signed, despite us giving away our fishing rights, selling our ethanol producers down the river, and allowing Indian companies to bring their own workers to the UK and avoid NI for three years whilst raising NI on UK businesses.

    1. The old joke: Qu: How can you tell when a politician is lying? A: You can see their lips move.
      Continually shown to be true.

    1. Like the officer in the American civil war, " Come on boys, they can't shoot for……. ".

  15. Travelone
    9h
    Jones — welsh ? . He thought nobody would notice and the BBC would not question it. Unfortunately the daily pictures are clear. The vast majority are young men and very very few are refugees nowdays. Technically none of them is – they just left a safe country. We all know this so jones was deliberately trying his luck.
    Remeber that kids book — where we had 'Jones the steam' and other trades. Maybe we can have this MP as 'Jones the Lie' . He disn't 'misspeak' or not speak clearly he deliberately lied and did it proudly and clearly. Maybe in Bristol North West they all believe every word and never question him or maybe they just vote for Jones the Lie because he is nearly as good and blatant as starmer for lies.

  16. Those who spoke up for victims of grooming gangs deserve an apology

    I wondered why TR why was recently released from prison early, should he now get a knighthood or a seat in the Lords?
    I still see the media and politicians gaslighting over having the inquiry, But I would rather those girl victims and their families receive an apology and compensation for the failures of the state to give them duty of care and basic protection under the law from the public services.
    We now see how easy it is for the state to unleash evil while trying to fulfill a political agenda.

    1. I'm not looking forward to the enquiry, Bob. In one way, I am, as so many will have the finger pointed at them, that maybe the cesspool that is UK politics might be a bit cleaner, but I'm damned sure that I will be in tears over what was done and covered up to those children. Maybe a trdition of hara kiri could be started for the guity ones – either by comission or omission.

      1. I wonder how much the decision to go ahead with the inquiry is down to the interventions of Musk & Trump ?

      2. I'm not looking forward to the inquiry because it will simply be a gravy train for Stoma's pals who will do everything possible to hide the facts and criminalise the witnesses.
        10 (15?) years later and some very fat cats will have got even fatter while producing a tome with most of its pages blacked out with felt tip pen.

        1. They haven't finished the Covid enquiry yet. It was suspended for the last election and does not appear to have resumed. Sweden's Covid enquiry was done and dusted in a few weeks agter the event.

      3. Don't worry- it will take at least 10 years, cost millions per day and nothing will emerge that we don't already know.

        1. It will be an exercise in Procrastination making sure that those guilty will be able to avoid being named and shamed for as long as possible.

    2. The first to do so was Mr Robinson. Will he be thanked.? Funny how they let him out given that he was a political prisoner.

      1. He wasn't the first.
        I believe that honour goes to the BNP when they attempted to expose the rape gangs in Rotherham.
        But I do agree that he does deserve a massive apology.

    3. 407577+ up ticks,

      Afternoon B3,

      I would thinkTommy Robinson has been through enough without exposing him to the treacherous
      lordy,lordy plague and much of its membership.

    1. Which reminds me – has Bonio driven his car off a cliff yet, as he apparently said he would if Trump was elected!?

      3. As they would say in the Simpsons: โ€œWonโ€™t someone think of the children! โ€œ

        Silly cow. We are not fooled by her performative pearl-clutching.

      2. I assume it is, but a good spoof (like this one) always has a believable element.
        YAB (ber dabber doo?) has form.

  20. In Crawley
    36m
    OT
    Its remarkable that Gaza has been sorted out, no fuss no drama just quietly removed from the BBC (and others) not a peep on the news.

    1. Well that is about to end. With the end of the Mullahs of Tehran comes the end of Hamas and half a dozen other terrorist organizations, their sponsors are now cut off and the other sponsor, Qatar has distanced itself and decided that being in the USA's orbit is a lot more profitable. And, as another spin off, poor Yemen will finally have peace.

    1. Don't like it there, then quit and go and work somewhere else more to your taste.

    3. It is really serious. There has been at least two workplace misconduct complaints in six years. Sources alleged that they have felt shouted at when mistakes have been made on-air, while one person witnessed Frediani walk out of the production gallery and kick a wastebasket. The b****rd!!!

    1. Oh, I don't know; he's smashing the cohesion of our people and the continuation of our culture for a start.

        1. I only use FB to view videos from Mother's care home of the inmates being entertained or doing simple activities such as making paper bonnets – occasionally get a glimpse of Mother.

    2. I donโ€™t know who Rupert is talking to but Iโ€™m surprised he can sit upright without his backbone. What a weasel.

      1. 407577+ up ticks,

        Morning LIR,

        Much rhetoric, red herring ? farage / lowe
        setup, could be, well meant advice, trust none in the house of ill repute.

    4. So, if the police ignored their pleas but TR rescued the interviewer's female family members from multiple vaginal rapes, oral rapes and anal rapes by a 20 strong gang of Pakistani Muslims he wouldn't thank him because TR is a vile man.

      I'll tell you who is really the vile man and it isn't TR

    5. His name is Gordon Rayner. Works for The Telegraph. Another bigot who's word you are supposed to take as Gods own truth, like the rest of the MSM. Illustrates perfectly why they should be ignored as sources of reliable information.

  25. "The ongoing industrial scale rape gang revelations will drain out what's left of Labour's social capital. The scandal undermines the government's legitimacy like no other.
    "Starmer has managed to destroy it's own legitimacy by continually failing to secure the UKs borders, its abject failure to protect our children, confounded by their denial & high level culpability."

    That guy who said civil war is inevitable

    1. BTL Comment:

      "Friendly reminder to the indigenous Europeansโ€ฆ

      It took the Moors only seven years to conquer most of Spain, but it took the Spanish almost EIGHT HUNDRED YEARS to boot them out."

      1. 407577+ up ticks,

        Morning PiP,

        Correct, I just finished 4 egg scrambled breakfast, heading for a neck of lamb dinner
        with a dollop of solidified bone broth.

        1. Good morning. I can manage three soft boiled eggs. But i still want toasted soldiers.

          1. 407577+ up ticks,

            Pi,

            A good start but think carb, cut down on the
            coloured soldiers.

    2. How many steaks to repair an aortic valve? I know the meds are toxic. I take Digoxin. The clue is in the name but in small doses it helps to regulate the heart and has been used for hundreds of years. It IS a herbal/plant remedy. It comes from foxgloves. Aspirin is a herbal/plant remedy. It comes from willow bark and was used by the ancient Greeks and Egyptians. In the 19th century a chemist identified the substance in the willow bark that is the active ingredient and synthesized it but it's still a plant remedy.

      1. Are you going to have a valve replacement? That's what OH was expecting when he was admitted to hospital, but he got the full works.

        1. Did they not tell him before the operation? I had a CT Coronary Angiogram which Iโ€™m told showed no need for bypass surgery so yes, it should be just the valve.

          1. They told him just beforehand. He was waiting for a TAVI – and got the triple bypass. Five days after his 80th birthday……

          2. Ouch! Iโ€™ve been told firmly that I canโ€™t have a TAVI but I expect just the valve.

          4. No, theyโ€™ll open the first three inches of my breastbone. The surgeon says he needs to be able to see it clearly. It doesnโ€™t have stenosis. The problem is that the valve has become floppy and doesnโ€™t close properly so itโ€™s allowing regurgitation.

  29. Good morning all.
    Up a bit later than planned, a bit of a restless night I'm afraid.
    Another beautiful day with a tad under 16ยฐC outside, but we could really do with a bit more rain now.

    Off to stepson's and might park up in the van for a couple of nights and sample one or two of the village pubs I go past en route to Stoke.

    Just looked up that mosque that caught fire in Southampton and it's on Portswood Road & backs on to Shakespeare Avenue where I lived in a bed-sitter when I was demobbed!
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/952610a1f8d4e2fb96f42d7e9988f88a247a4e35af12937328ab476183efd065.png

    1. Ahh is that what was going on there yesterday? We diverted via Bitterne on our way home from Cornwall to mow daughterโ€™s lawn, and noticed โ€œsomethingโ€ was going on.

      She is getting her own lawnmower as a birthday present, on Friday.

    2. I walked past that mosque a couple of weeks back, it looks like an old cinema.

  30. Good Morning!

    Today we have the second part of the series ' No War With Russia ', which examines the long list of broken promises made to Russia, and the myriad provocations it put up with before the West crossed her reddest of red lines in Ukraine.

    Xandra H, a psychologist, lets us in on the psychological war being waged by the forces of Globalism to control our minds. Read her Applied psychology – demonic influence or angelic saviour? and let us know your opinion.

    Energy Watch: Over the last 24 hours: Britain's electric power was sourced from Gas, 15.4%; Solar, 10.3%: Wind 28.6%; Imports, 18.9%; Biomass, 8.3%; Nuclear 15.9% and Miscellaneous, 2.7%.

    1. Your Russia articles are the kind of writing that needs some preparation: Table (for the PC) and coffee, before starting. Not a casual read at all.

  31. Morning All ๐Ÿ™‚๐Ÿ˜Š
    Another sunny start 18 c already rising to 23.
    Generally I think that we all deserve an apology the lying that has been spewing out of Westminster and Whitehall for the past 15 years is disgraceful. They are all guilty of mass protection of their own lively hoods. The only common thing they are jointly best at, is never telling the truth.

  32. Mousey Yvette Cooper is set to announce a national grooming gangs inquiry today..

    Betcha this lot will be instructed to..implement a full probe after months of resistance.
    The Civil Service Muslim Network (CSMN) the cross-government, departmental umbrella network representing and supporting departmental Muslim networks.

    1. You would have thought that the "decent", "peace loving" Muslims would want this filth to be exposed, imprisoned and deported just to show they have the same standards of the majority population. You would have thought……..

      1. But they don't have the same standards as the majority population, that's just the point. Their book says it's okay.

  34. When will the politicians admit they have made a massive mistake letting so many muslims in to our country.

    2. Everything they come into contact with they eff it up.
      Then spend the rest of their lives lying about it all. And we have to pay for it all.

    3. Will they ever?

      The general view amongst politicians is that if you admit your mistakes you show weakness.

      The truth is that is takes more real strength to admit that you are wrong.

    4. If England becomes an Islamic state then the Moslems will kill their communist enablers. Then the penny will drop. Otherwise, never.

    5. 407577+ up ticks,

      Afternoon JN,
      When will the majority tribal voter admit to giving these pro eu politicians their support since 24/6/2016 via voting party before Country again & again.

    1. Iran has been supplying arms and explosives to hamas for decades.
      They have already caused endless problems in the middle east. Now Pakistan is poking its unwelcome nose in.

    2. It turns out that, with great haste, the Pakistanis went out of their way to say this was not true and that Rezaei was lying. Although they put the denial in more diplomatic language.

      1. I think that is what makes the establishment afraid of him. I suspect his support amongst 'normal's' is much greater than it seems. The censorship and the constant lies by the MSM distorts his support and what people think of him.

    1. Shola Mos-Shogbamimu: Her father was Prince Adebajo Babington-Ashaye, who was a son of Oba Alfred Obafuwa Babington-Ashaye, Legunsen III, the Ologere of Ogere, a Nigerian monarch from the Remo Kingdom in Ogun State.

      (A monarch of the Remo Kingdom just means that they have their own mud hut and don't have to share it with anyone.)

      1. I remember back in the 80s the tabloids were making a thing of some popular black actress being an African princess. A Ghanaian woman I worked with at the time sneered and said, "They're all princesses".

  39. Good morning all

    Sunshine , 17c, and clouds building up.

    Once upon a time , weather buffs used to say, sun before seven , rain after 11.

    Often or not true , otherwise we will have to water the garden, that's trouble with being enthusiastic about pots of hydrangeas and other droopy plants !

  41. Not bad. After the second line there were 160 possible answers::
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  42. Why are councils licensing Paki's to drive taxis, mainly their English is usually poor , but practically every taxi driver is Asian and well by the sound of things , mendacious and coercive?

    2. My taxi driver to Heathrow is second generation, married to an English wife. Speaks normal English, is very reliable. Known as Wonky (due to an injured arm) but his name is Mansour. His father drives for him as well.

      1. If he accepts his nickname, it must mean that he is well balanced (and integrated)

    3. Good money to be made driving children to school on taxis paid by the LEA. Contracts all stitched up.

    1. 2981

      Honey & I are done shopping and I am now tucking into some Capezzoli di Venere.

      2. Elaine: Hey, Jerry, when do you consider sex has taken place?
        Jerry: I'd say when the nipple makes its first appearance.

    2. 2981

      Honey & I are done shopping and I am now tucking into some Capezzoli di Venere.

    3. 2981

      Honey & I are done shopping and I am now tucking into some Capezzoli di Venere.

    4. When I was little and my parents wanted to say something which they did not want me to hear they spoke in French or Arabic. When my wife didn't want me and our sons to hear what she was saying she spoke in Dutch or Spanish

      Jess, the fiancรฉe of Henry, my younger son, has a Ph.D. in Mathematics and has just been appointed as a Maths lecturer at Lancaster University. Henry writes computer programs for AI. They can communicate with each other so that virtually nobody else knows what they are saying!

      1. Hello Richard ,

        My late parents used to talk to each other in Arabic .

        When my 2 sisters came over from SA in May , we discussed our parents use of Arabic ..

        We learnt basic phrases , and I can still count to ten in Sudanese Arabic and strangely enough, Nigerian Hausa language .

        I think the first things were politeness and interest. Africans love the fact that the English are interested enough to speak a little of their language .

        I believe that English is so widely used and spoken that migrants would prefer to come to Britain because their English is so good .

        Our Colonial legacy , in fact Africans can speak far more beautiful English than the horrible hotch potch patois of West Indians . That is why Africans cope so well in the UK.

        1. You say that Africans cope so well in the UK because they can speak far more beautiful English than the horrible hotch potch patois of West Indians. How do Africans cope wiv today's UK speech, innit?

    1. It was a Polish chap who tiled my bathroom. Walls and floor. Installed the spotlights and painted the ceiling. Hard working and professional.

  46. Morning all. Quite dark here but 70f. It isn't supposed to rain here today but it wouldn't surprise me at all if it does.

    With reference to todays letter: " Those who spoke up for victims of grooming gangs deserve an apology" Does that include Tommy Robinson?

    1. There's a baby siskin fighting off a baby blue tit for a place on the bird feeder here.

  49. 407577+ up ticks,

    Any thoughts on how we will fare in the loooong winter nights, that is a question of some importance ?

    Dt,

    Britain to keep lights on with โ€˜gas-freeโ€™ power grid for first time
    Potential milestone to provide glimpse into future under 2030 net zero targets

    3. Excellent. Thanks for posting!
      i wonder if she will apologise? I wonโ€™t. Hold my breath.

    1. Hmm, who unpacks their suitcase whilst still on the plane? #ThoseProletariatsWillBelieveAnything.

    2. Hmm, who unpacks their suitcase whilst still on the plane? #ThoseProletariatsWillBelieveAnything.

  53. BBC
    Israel says it has full control over Tehran's skies as both sides continue strikes

  54. One of the largest caverns and the highest unbroken underground waterfall (322 ft)in the UK. Many, many years ago a friend and I wanted to parachute into it and we asked the owner, who said he thought we were mad ,but gave us permission anyway. We went to the entrance, high up on the hills above Clapham and checked it out. Unfortunately the entrance was rather small and there was a ledge 180ft down so it wasn't possible. It would have been interesting though.

    Gaping Gill cavern. https://the-yorkshireman.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/2578133_42021f80.jpg

    Entrance and stream bed.
    https://the-yorkshireman.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/1386206_69a80384.jpg

    1. Is it deep and romantic and does it slant down the green hill athwart a cedarn cover?

      1. It is 'A stately pleasure-dome'. I have been down it a couple of times on a winch. A vast caving system. A wonderful experience.

    2. Bank for International Settlements. Among other things it administered the ECU before the birth of the euro. And likewise the IMF's SDR. If it didn't exist, we'd have to invent it.

      1. I had never heard of it. But then I only pay attention to banks in the mode of withdrawing or depositing ๐Ÿ˜I suppose I would be aware if I was into conspiracy theories.

      3. Yes. I thought it was just settling debts between countries world wide. Hadnโ€™t thought much about it other than I wouldnโ€™t be involved!

    5. I am listening to a disturbing Neil Oliver episode with a chap called Nick Ward, about the imminent collapse of the GBPโ€ฆ

    6. Bank for International Settlements is a fancy WhatsApp group for banks that allows banks to coordinate with each other when they want to move money from one account to another. What happens when you are booted out of a WhatsApp group like Russia in 2022? You create another one and talk via that. Or you use crypto or Matrix or perhaps even have a phone call.

    7. Bank for International Settlements is a fancy WhatsApp group for banks that allows banks to coordinate with each other when they want to move money from one account to another. What happens when you are booted out of a WhatsApp group like Russia in 2022? You create another one and talk via that. Or you use crypto or Matrix or perhaps even have a phone call.

  57. 407577+ up ticks,

    So, go the full term, let the sprog first clap eyes on your
    nearest politico who will gently draw a scalpel across the new arrivals gullet performing a new ritual after finding full support of the house via the culling department.

    If this is fact, when did we step out of the HUMAN species class https://x.com/UnityNewsNet/status/1934572524454514937

      1. 407577+up ticks,

        Afternoon O,

        I think we will find it is open season on all age groups is in place , the eyes tight shut group must realise that the war has started long ago without declaration regarding the main herd.
        This odious issue will be found under the
        culling laws.

    2. To repeat what I posted yesterday:

      The next obscenity will be that Stella Creasey will soon be campaigning for 'post-natal abortion' available to mothers for up to twelve months after the baby's birth if they find the baby's presence in their lives inconvenient, tiresome and irksome.

    3. It's unfortunate that she's Jewish. Being Jewish and in favour of infanticide invites all the half-baked rubbish about Khazars and Zionist plots and "Jesus was a goyim" nonsense. "Goyim" seems to be a fashionable replacement for gentile but wherever it came from, Jesus of Nazareth was a Jew. The Khazars existed and some of them converted to Judaism but they are not the ancestors of all Ashkenazi Jews and only around a quarter of Israelis are Ashkenazim anyway.

      1. Oh, there is still time.

        Regime change is in the air.

        I wonder how long the Irish government will hang on for. Once they start brutalising their own citizens, and they have, it's game over.

  58. Begorrah, bejesus!

    A Scotsman, Englishman and an Irishman were drinking at a bar.
    "As good as this bar is," said the Scotsman, "I still prefer the pubs back home. In Glasgow, there's a wee place called McTavish's. The landlord goes out of his way for the locals. When you buy four drinks, he'll buy the fifth drink."
    "Well, Angus," said the Englishman, "At my local in London, the Red Lion, the barman will buy you your third drink after you buy the first two."
    "Ahhh, dat's nothin' ," said the Irishman, "back home in my favorite pub, the moment you set foot in the place, they'll buy you a drink, then another, all the drinks you like, actually.
    Then, when you've had enough drinks, they'll take you upstairs and see dat you gets laid, all on the house!"
    The Englishman and Scotsman were suspicious of the claims.
    The Irishman swore every word was true.
    "Did this actually happen to you"
    "Not meself, personally, no, admitted the Irishman, "but it did happen to me sister quite a few times…

          2. It's an entirely rigged ex-officio confection established to deceive the gullible GBP.

    2. But Starmer and all his ministers lie blatantly and get away with it so Miliband will get away with it too.

  62. Labour Row Brewing Over Abortion Amendments

    Tomorrow, the Commons will debate whether to โ€œdecriminaliseโ€ abortion in England and Wales. Two Labour-led amendments are at the heart of a brewing rowโ€ฆ

    Labour MP Tonia Antoniazzi has put forward an amendment that would allow abortion for any reason up to birth but maintain criminal sanctions for doctors performing late-term or sex-selective procedures, while Stella Creasyโ€™s calls for full decriminalisation in all circumstances. Tensions between the two have already become pointed, with Antoniazzi in the Commons earlier this month saying:

    โ€œIt is interesting that more than 115 MPs have signed [my amendment], and it has been endorsed by the whole industryโ€ฆ Has my hon. Friend had conversations with them about why they have not signed up to her new clause?โ€

    Creasy that attempts to meet hadnโ€™t materialised:

    โ€œI am sorry that my hon. Friend feels the need to ask that question. She knows full well that despite me asking repeatedly to meet her and to talk to the campaigners she has been working with, that meeting has not yet been forthcoming.โ€

    Since then, momentum appears to have swung in Antoniazziโ€™s favour, with her amendment leading by 176 signatures to Creasyโ€™s 113. Creasy has taken to X this morning to accuse her opponents of misrepresenting the facts, while there are reports that Speaker Lindsay Hoyle may only select one of two amendments for a vote. Popcorn at the readyโ€ฆ

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    The Lotus Eater
    1h
    kiIIing babies an hour before theyโ€™re born is hardly a time for popcorn?

    Rogerborg โฌ›๐ŸŸง
    The Lotus Eater
    1h
    Up to and including during the birth process. In places where this has been legalised, they stab the infants as they're being delivered, then leave them to die. It's monstrous eugenics.

    Obnox
    Rogerborg โฌ›๐ŸŸง
    16m
    This is legal elsewhere in the world? For crying out loud!

    James Stevenson
    Rogerborg โฌ›๐ŸŸง
    57m
    The sick thing will be it's done free of charge via the untouchable NHS.

    Rogerborg โฌ›๐ŸŸง
    1h
    Speak truthfully. This will legalise the murder of unwanted infants, up to and including in the process of being born. Creasy's version does it openly. Antoniazzi's version does it de facto.

    Steve Evans
    1h
    Legalised murder. Disgusting creatures.

  63. Time to deport and revoke UK citizenship for all Pakistani men.

    Britain's Asian grooming gangs scandal laid bare: Interactive map reveals shocking extent of predatory men who sexually abused young girls across FORTY ONE UK towns… and the staggering number now free and back on the streets.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14271725/Britains-Asian-grooming-gangs-scandal-laid-bare-Interactive-map-reveals-shocking-extent-predatory-men-sexually-abused-young-girls-FORTY-ONE-UK-towns-staggering-number-free-streets.html

      3. And the women who colluded; either because they viewed the girls in the same light and/or they were glad not to be mauled around in their role as baby making machines.
        After all, Right to Family Life and all that.

    3. There was a sign on one of the bridges โ€œSoldiers break stepโ€ to which might be added โ€œSoldiers do not break windโ€.

      Successive governments have shown no regard for our most basic infrastructure preferring instead to spaff billions on tending to the whim of unwanted aliens to our country and billions more on Project Ukraine.

    4. It's absolutely wonderful.
      I've just posted it (again) because I was too lazy to read further.

    1. I hear on the grapevine that the judge they're going to appoint to lead the inquiry is Judge Mohamed Siddiq

  66. Dreamliner crashes and all but one dead. RIP.

    Dreamliner en route London to India has flaps failure and has to turn around mid flight dump fuel and land

    Dreamliner en route from India to Hong kong has to turn around midflight because of technical issues.

    All within the week. Beside several other crashes and deaths in previous years.

    Why would any sane person fly Boeing ever again…

    1. India is a more convincing common factor than Boeing. There are over 1,000 Dreamliners worldwide of which Air India have just 33.

    2. The recent crash is the first Dreamliner crash ever. The other recent Boeing issue has been the 737 Max.

      I've traveled more miles than I care to add up on 737's, 747's, 757's, 767's and 777's, and even a few 727 flights. Never had an issue.

      The only flights I have been on which had real issues were a DC-10 (surprise, sunrise) and a Bombardier regional jet. Both cases ended up with safe, albeit "assume the position" landings.

    3. Several aircraft suffering sudden failures in that way suggest the failure cause is outwith the aircraft design and lies somewhere else. Maybe fuel supply?

  67. BBC Turns on Labour With New โ€˜Starmerโ€™s Stormy Yearโ€™ Documentary

    In a sign of the times the BBC is beginning to turn on Starmer. Downing Street will be asking: โ€œHow did it get to this?โ€

    The BBCโ€™s political team is working up a radio documentary called โ€œStarmerโ€™s Stormy Yearโ€ to be released just ahead of the one-year anniversary of Labour in power. What a year itโ€™s beenโ€ฆ

    The blurb spells it out:

    โ€œWhy did the government have such a shaky start? Ministers blame the inheritance from the Conservatives but were some of the crises self-inflicted? Are critics right to claim the government was chaotically ill-prepared? Can Labour win back confidence and support from voters?

    As we explore, we ask a fundamental question: what is this government for? โ€˜Changeโ€™ was Labourโ€™s core message at the general election. How does Keir Starmer want to change Britain and how far is he succeeding?โ€

    Weekend analysis from Britain Elects shows Starmer to be the least popular PM after 300 days in power since the 70s:

    +46 Tony Blair
    +21 John Major
    +19 Boris Johnson
    +18 Theresa May
    -6 Margaret Thatcher
    -6 David Cameron
    -22 Rishi Sunak
    -30 Gordon Brown
    -33 Keir Starmer
    The documentary should be fun. Out 30 Juneโ€ฆ

    16 June 2025 @ 11:26

    Tory DJ
    2h
    Starmer will be ousted by the Far Lefties.
    Then Labour can continue with their scorched earth policies.

    I doubt anyone on here will ever see another Labour Government in their lifetime, so Labour will take their chance to completely ruin the UK, over the next 4 years.

    Hugh Culp
    2h
    What a year. Living part together.
    Reparations for the PIRA;
    Covering up for the Southport criminal;
    Reparations for non schwarze Carribean countries;
    The ยฃ305 billion Chagos deal;
    Handing the Elgin Marbles to Greece;
    Overturning democracy and taking the UK back into the EU;
    Euthanasia;
    Giving emmygrynt moskues ยฃ115 million yet Churches and Synagogues nothing;
    Putting raMADan ahead of Christmas and Easter;
    Waging war against Israel;
    Refusing to enter into FTA negotiations with the Trump administration; (twenty five per cent trade tariffs)
    'Smash the gangs'.
    A ยฃ305 billion fiscal shortfall.
    Vote Reform.

    1. Black is black
      I want my money back
      It's grey, it's grey
      Since it went away, oh, oh
      What can I do?
      'Cause I-I-I-I-I
      I'm feelin' blue

    1. I wish. One of my favourite places, and one of my favourite artists still lives there, Victor Koulbak.

      1. Yes i remember you speaking of him. I wouldn't be so rude as to invade his privacy though.

        1. He’s known for impatience, but I suspect if you approach him as an adoring fan he’d like you very much. I love his work, and also Leonardo’s – think that was one of his inspirations. Guessing I told you of my emails with his assistant…VK was asked to teach at the Sorbonne, lasted precisely one day..to be a fly on that wall (but not one of the sobbing students:-!)

    3. Bu88er.
      I've just been to ALDI and stocked up on cinnamon buns.
      If you'd only asked this morning.

      1. It was beautiful though. Four floors on top of another townhouse with it's own private lift. They don't mention the roof top terrace for some reason. Where i waved to all the liners going out.
        Marble everywhere.
        The owner at the time i rented from is also a pilot and took me up and flew around the islands.
        With the convent directly opposite i was woken every morning by Nuns singing.

          1. Ha !

            As naff as those cruise ships are there are many happy people on board living their life. I would be sitting on my lounger with my Martini.
            I thought it rude not to wave back.

    1. Hugh Culp
      4h
      I look forward to them all being subpoenered to appear to give evidence. Not half as much as I look forward to Keith giving evidence.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/609ed0f437ee26e16fa3aed5ab7d147343dedd0716db10a830c7734f66fb80dd.png
      Dahonk
      3h
      Call me jaded but I think Labour especially Paranoid Android Kier want to have some sort of influence over the enquiry and I fully expect the proceedings to be filled with 2TK activist legal colleagues and chums from the legal profession.
      I reckon people have been whispering in his ear that when Labour get annihilated in the next GE there will be a no holds barred public enquiry and a lot of powerful people including public sector bosses, police of all ranks, frontline public employees and above all labour councillors and a few MPs involved in the cover up.

      The clock is ticking for some people who will be getting very worried.

      There should be sackings, convictions, pensions cancelled, and jailings for plenty over this.

      I expect a few to do the usual and head to Luton Airport to fly back to the tribal homelands when they try to hide from eventual justice

      The Barbarian
      Dahonk
      3h
      Oh, you can bet your last pound that 4TK is currently scrabbling around lining up his 'neutral' colleagues to run the inquiry.

      Cherie Blair for Chair!!

      1. 'when Labour get annihilated in the next GE'….wish I had that confidence, but I don't.

        1. The problem is that Reform is going to pieces under Farage's lunges to the left so we shall hve too many people abstaining who can't stand the prospect of voting for any of the parties.

      3. Another man who presumably will recover from dementia in due course, once the prospect of a gaol sentence recedes?

  72. Rod Liddle
    Does the BBC doubt Iran wanted a nuke?
    15 June 2025, 8:46pm

    I donโ€™t monitor this stuff all the time. It would be soul destroying. All that happens is that I tune in, often by accident, and there is something which once again betrays the long term, institutional, anti-Israel bias of the BBC.

    So, Friday nightโ€™s television news and the Middle East Correspondent Lucy Williamson. Reporting on the Israeli rocket attack upon Iranโ€™s nuclear bases, Lucy told us that Israel โ€˜saysโ€™ Iran is working towards a nuclear bomb. Attribution, you see. Let us hear what the International Atomic Energy Agency had to say in its report on 9 June this year. โ€˜As you know, the Agency found man-made uranium particles at each of three undeclared locations in Iran โ€“ at Varamin, Marivan and Turquzabad โ€“ at which we conducted complementary access in 2019 and 2020. Since then, we have been seeking explanations and clarifications from Iran for the presence of these uranium particles, including through a number of high-level meetings and consultations in which I have been personally involved.โ€™ And later in that report: โ€˜The rapid accumulation of highly enriched uranium โ€“ as detailed in my other report before you: Verification and monitoring in the Islamic Republic of Iran in light of United Nations Security Council resolution 2231 (2015) โ€“ is of serious concern and adds to the complexity of the issues I have described. Given the potential proliferation implications, the Agency cannot ignore the stockpiling of over 400 kg of highly enriched uranium.โ€™

    The IAEA believes Iran is working towards a bomb. So do the governments of virtually every other country on earth. Israel says?

    ******************************************

    Asterion III
    18 hours ago edited
    I believe that the BBC actually do think that Iran, despite sitting on oceans of oil, likes to choose to believe that the Ayatollah and his not-so-merry men don't want a nuke, but want to develop nuclear power, at huge expense, rather than getting practically free energy from the ground beneath their feet. That is the level of analysis to which the BBC has sunk.

    Watching the BBC news earlier – and laughing out loud at the simplistic commentary and the blatant bias – I wondered why, after after a relatively short piece of coverage of probably the most significant military action of the last half century, the BBC moved smoothly on to what it considered equally, or more important 'news', that is the murder of a Minnesota politician and her husband.

    Profound.

    Don't enable the BBC. Don't pay the licence fee..

    BANASTRE TARLETON
    17 hours ago edited
    In the world of geopolitics the BBC are the Globalist Pravda ; they will act like the Vichy government of France who aided and abetted the German deportation of Jews to Auschwitz – they will cravenly appease the muslim communities here in the UK by turning a blind eye to any threats to both the state of Israel and the Jewish community in Britain. Everything they say must be ''read between the lines'' and nothing taken as fact until verified. We are in Globalist occupied Europe that happened over a period of forty years as they made their 'Long march through the Institutions''

    The Jews are always the canary in the coalmine, so here they are again warning us about the treacherous BBC and Uniparty who have either been seduced by globalist ideology or simply bought off with their filthy lucre ; when truth be told it's probably both

  73. Charles Moore
    The Ayatollahs are tottering. Only the BBC hasnโ€™t noticed

    The Corporation fails to see the difference between the Tehran tyranny and the only democracy in the Middle East

    BBC reporting of the attacks on Iran contrasts with how the corporation covers the Gaza conflict. On Gaza, it repeatedly complains that journalists are forbidden entry to the area by Israel. This then becomes an excuse for repeating uncritically every line of Hamas and the UN agencies.

    In the case of Iran, the BBC reminds audiences that it is not allowed there, but does not criticise Iran for this. Instead, it concentrates on reporting from Israel, where it tries to make as much of the war damage as possible.

    This leads to a severe imbalance of reporting and analysis. In Israel, there is no chance whatever that the democracy will fall apart. In Iran, there is a serious possibility that the autocratic regime will collapse and its leaders flee or die. In global power politics, this is arguably the biggest news story since the end of the Cold War.

    Yet the BBC muffles the plight of Iran and sets up a sort of moral equivalence in which the two countries โ€œtrade blowsโ€. It does not remind us that Israel attacked because it is the policy of Iran to destroy it and it has nearly reached the nuclear capacity to do so. Nor does it mention that most of the Iranian attacks target civilians, whereas none of the Israeli ones do. Its reporting also gives the impression that the effect of Iranian bombing of Israel is devastating. It is horrible all right but, so far at least, largely ineffective.

    The BBC even blames the Israeli government that its citizens are bombed, although it fails to find Israeli victims who endorse this line. Signing off from the scene of an Iranian raid on Bat Yam this morning on the Today programme, Anna Foster complained not about the Iranian raids whose effects she had just seen with her own eyes, but about โ€œwhat has been a dangerous and provocative raid on Iranโ€.

    The BBCโ€™s next trick will be to acclaim โ€œpeace movesโ€. It would be beyond satire, but not beyond possibility, that it promotes an offer of talks sponsored by President Putin, slyly endorsed by President Trump.

    Britain owes a huge debt to Israel and Ukraine
    Western powers, particularly the United States, are often criticised for protecting Israel. In Britain, with the rise of Muslim influence in the Labour Party, large protest marches allege this against the government of the day.

    Sir Keir Starmer is clearly frightened. As leader of the Opposition, he got off to a good start. In response to the Hamas atrocities of October 7 2023, he immediately supported Israelโ€™s right to self-defence, facing down internal critics. As Prime Minister, however, he has bent with his partyโ€™s wind, as his pro-Gaza MPs rebel. Now the Government backs sanctions against two Israeli cabinet ministers, restricts arms sales to Israel and encourages the idea that Benjamin Netanyahu should be indicted by the International Criminal Court.

    After Israel attacked Iran last week, Britainโ€™s reaction expressed this weakness. Although sending aircraft to the region, the Government would not say whether we were providing our previous air-force protection for Israel against Iranian raids. Sir Keir implicitly criticised Israel, calling for โ€œa return to diplomacyโ€.

    This is hypocritical. Britain has rightly developed a close intelligence relationship with Israel, having a common interest in state and non-state Islamist terrorist threats. Yet publicly it gives Israel no credit. Because of our increasing hostility, there is evidence that Israel no longer trusts us not to leak secrets and may cut us out of them.

    Even more important is the obvious fact that Iranโ€™s possession of an atomic bomb would be extremely dangerous to the region and to the world. Western allied attempts over many years to prevent this by negotiation have failed. Iran has proved incapable of acting in good faith. Its regime is a constant threat to peace.

    Israel warned of this for decades. Last week, it finally acted, with astonishing accuracy, against a vast range of Iranian installations and individuals. As a result, the extremist theocracy trembles. It may fall.

    So Israel has protected the West, more than the other way round. Even the United States, by far Israelโ€™s most important friend, has equivocated. President Trump, as if it has little to do with him, says โ€œBoth sides may have to fight it out.โ€ Britain has rendered itself almost completely irrelevant.

    On the other side, Russia, which backs Iran, has done less than nothing for peace, and has lost power in Syria. The great powers have looked small.

    Only the small power โ€“ Israel โ€“ has acted on the grand scale required. If it succeeds, it will have altered the balance of power in the Middle East in favour of moderate regimes and in the whole world against Russia, China (which also backs Iran) and Islamist extremism. It gets precious few thanks.

    There is an analogy here. We in the West, particularly Britain, pride ourselves on training Ukraine to fight against the Russian invasion. Our contribution has certainly been helpful. But increasingly, Ukraine, like Israel, has led the way in ingenious technological development, notably with drones. Both countries have innovated brilliantly under the pressure of war. Ukraine, like Israel, is protecting the West from the advance of our enemies. We should let its armed services train ours.

    The wisdom is that โ€œThe price of liberty is eternal vigilanceโ€. We seem to have contracted out our vigilance to the two nations which are ready to fight for their lives. We should be much more grateful, and much more helpful. #

    **************************************************

    Pam Dhillon
    just now
    DEFUND THE BBC!!

    Roberto Giorgi
    2 hrs ago
    Everyone knows if you want impartial news then the BBC isnโ€™t the place to look or listen. No one cares anymore. Their credibility is shot.

    PJ Spiers
    1 hr ago
    Reply to Roberto Giorgi – view message
    Should the BBC be found guilty of supporting a proscribed organisation โ€“ Hamas โ€“ under the Terrorism Act 2000 (next to no chance), then presumably it would be a criminal offence, under the same Act, to support them by paying your licence fee.

    Lily Pons
    1 hr ago
    Reply to Roberto Giorgi
    The same is true of Sky News. Last night's interview by hysterical female reporter was a disgrace!

    1. The removal of the mad mullahs rule in Iran will bring me much joy. We can have Burn your Burqa and your Palestinian Flag month ….

    3. Charles Moore: Britain owes a huge debt to Israel and Ukraine. No Charlie, it was preparing to become an advanced nuclear missile platform for the US military. The idiot Khrushchev gave the administration of Crimea to Ukraine in 1954 in memory of his mother or grandmother who was born in Ukraine. He, himself was born within a few miles of the Russian/Ukraine border. I don't think he expected the Soviet Union to fall apart as it did in 1991.

    4. They seem to be as good at tipping winners as the Sporting Life. I look to see whom they recommend and immediately put a line through that name and eliminate it from my calculations. That works about 9 times out of 10.

    3. Hahaha bloody ha.
      Most of them haven't any idea what they are supposed to be doing.
      That's really why our whole country is now in such a bloody mess..

          1. EU – we’ll never leave, Eddy. Been gaslit for years. Finally seen a mention of Tommy.

    5. Bless her – she had an early start! It always made me staggeringly incompetent!

  78. Former EHRC chairman Trevor Phillips said on Times Radio that Labour ministers should apologise for their dismissal of those calling for a inquiry into the rape gangs:

    โ€œI think that ministers owe an apology to all of the people who they essentially said were talking rubbish, to all the people who to whom they said you havenโ€™t actually bothered to read the Jay Report and you donโ€™t know actually whatโ€™s going on and to all of the people of whom it was suggested their interest and concern about this was motivated in some way by racial distaste or prejudice.โ€

    1. Appoligse ?
      They should be forced out of parliament. And have their salaries removed.

      1. I wonder if any of them knew, Eddy, or were even involved. Quite possibly could be a bigger scandal than we already think, or know.

  79. Alistair ODowd
    1 hr ago
    Interesting that the BBC allowed the Bishop of Manchester get away with lies on โ€˜thought for todayโ€™ this morning. He was allowed to conflate rape gangs with single sex offenders and comment that offenders were from โ€˜all communitiesโ€™. The first signs of an establishment cover up? Although as he is from the CofE he will know a few things about covering up abuse.

    1. The Bishop of Manchester took part in the Great Disputation at Barts last year. He was defending socialism and lost to Ann Widdecombe and Winston Marshall. The house did not believe that Christianity is intrinsically socialist.

      2. It was pretty radical though, what with tossing the money changers out of the temple, telling the rich they won't go to heaven, and feeding and curing the sick.

        Pity though that some clergy took the "Suffer the little children to come unto me" command a little too literally.

  80. Wordle No. 1,458 4/6

    โฌœโฌœโฌœโฌœ๐ŸŸจ
    โฌœโฌœโฌœโฌœ๐ŸŸจ
    โฌœ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉ
    ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉ

    Wordle 16 Jun 2025

    A trivial Par Four?

    1. Likewise.

      Wordle 1,458 4/6

      โฌœโฌœโฌœ๐ŸŸจโฌœ
      ๐ŸŸฉโฌœโฌœโฌœ๐ŸŸจ
      ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉโฌœโฌœ๐ŸŸฉ
      ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉ

    2. I stared at this for ages struggling to come up with any word, then I finally twigged the double letter and bingo! Birdie!

      Wordle 1,458 3/6

      ๐ŸŸจโฌœโฌœ๐ŸŸจโฌœ
      โฌœ๐ŸŸจโฌœโฌœโฌœ
      ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉ

      2. Experts only event today.
        Relatively straightforward except for the tri peaks. the boards can be done completing the first two sets, the score one by getting the first and third.

        1. I'll have a look sos but, as you know, I tend only to do tri peaks… I'll report back….

          2. No, it didnt work. Struggled with the first Klondike, and didnt really know what was going on with the Stacks, so gave up!

          4. Probably… I spend far too much time on tri peaks as it is – I really dont want to get hooked on anything else!

    3. Birdie here.

      Wordle 1,458 3/6

      โฌœโฌœโฌœโฌœ๐ŸŸจ
      ๐ŸŸฉโฌœโฌœ๐ŸŸจโฌœ
      ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉ

    4. Late on parade par here as well.
      Wordle 1,458 4/6

      โฌœโฌœโฌœโฌœ๐ŸŸจ
      โฌœโฌœโฌœ๐ŸŸจ๐ŸŸฉ
      ๐ŸŸจโฌœโฌœโฌœ๐ŸŸฉ
      ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉ๐ŸŸฉ

  81. Place your bets:
    which picture amongst many do you think the MSM will likely choose to illustrate the rape gangs

    Derby
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/701b787cd860d8588d03c80e4cf50288bdc5d0a0b4d01cf3606ee8389d0ef6de.png
    or
    Halifax
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c9e9a0c9131d7f5aa558da162c871e8220041d6016bfa2612d665346a32c41ca.png
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14271725/Britains-Asian-grooming-gangs-scandal-laid-bare-Interactive-map-reveals-shocking-extent-predatory-men-sexually-abused-young-girls-FORTY-ONE-UK-towns-staggering-number-free-streets.html

    1. I've just seen several on the channel 5 news and an interview with one of the victims. As a youngster he had been locked up by them for ten weeks.

        1. The Left cannot permit the truth so they will lie. Anything to deceive the public and ensure the massive gimmigration plot continues.

  82. It's lovely outside today – been weeding – now sitting out here to see if there's enough power and wifi for the laptop for a while.

    2. Well done! My missus has been out weeding today, I enjoy watching a woman work! (runs for cover)

    2. Oh the state won't allow fair play! This will all be behinnd closed doors, with silent witnesses protected by anonymity.

      You didn't think Starmer would allow the dismantling of the Left wing state, did you?

      1. 407577+ up ticks,

        Afternoon W,

        No, not in the least, precisely why we need a peoples watch committee led by a person who has been hardened in the political forge
        of dirty tricks and treachery, who better than Tommy Robinson, besides we owe him, BIG TIME.

    3. We need a definition of โ€œracismโ€. Not just โ€œsaying nasty things about foreignersโ€.

      1. 407577+ up ticks,

        Evening LIR,

        By now I believe sides have been decided
        the left use it to demean peoples but have over egged it.

        Thereby allowing the, so far right, to use it to their advantage.

  84. Just had the twins at the โ€˜big red slide parkโ€™ in Kilsyth, which is on the Antonine Wall, and by the Forth/Clyde canal. This is the red sandstone quarry which is next to the park and is home to mallard ducks, moorhens and a pair of swans and their 6 cygnets! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f51331d9879f9b2905fc2205dc564342c45cffce10c80a3655ec9063a4aeb741.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1ce8eec682980d28dfb984a3895074a34d5a1c0567007577c9efd01d176eaac0.jpg

  85. Well – that was that – had to bring the laptop back in and plug it in.
    Wifi was ok – but battery ran out of charge – I normally use it plugged in.

    1. I installed a power source in my Garden Room. Double plug socket undercover. One for the Lappy and two for the wine fridge.

    2. I was told by him wherever he is not to charge it all the time, Ndovu. I endeavour to do as I'm told…..

        1. Mine currently says 51%, apparently 4 hours and one minute. Just been watching JRM chatting with George Galloway on GBN who is firmly with Iran.

  87. Could we get Reform to announce a series of radical tax cuts and the closure of multiple government departments alongside the writing of a simpler, shorter tax code?

    After all, as Labour are so desperate now's the time to get sensible legislation through.

    1. Ah, but hang on. They might say pakistani, but they will NOT say muslim.

      I appreciate even getting the inquiry is a success but we all know how it will go:

      A specific judge selected.
      Closed doors interviews
      Evidence not published
      Closed under 30 year rule
      No change to law
      No reference again
      No punishments for muslim
      No publicity, absolute radio silence 'We're waiting for the report's findings' (which will exhonerate and more likely ignore muslim).

      It will be a whitewash. Massive uncontrolled gimmigration will continue. Not one public sector official remotely touched, let alone jailed. the muslim pakistani rape gangs will continue their putrid actions.

      Nothing will change, even if the blatant, obvious truth is finally forced into the eyeballs of the hard Left.

      1. Sad to say, my first reaction was that they had been pushed into it, were trying to save their skins and would make sure it was a whitewash.

      1. There's a link near the start of the article, try the quiz and find out, it's only a bit of fun.

      1. I’m sceptical of such analyses, but reading your posts I think vw may well be right!
        }:-))

  90. Killerโ€™s criminal record โ€˜wiped cleanโ€™ after self-identifying as woman

    Administrative error is discovered during a previous convictions disclosure made on Alex Stewart, a HMP Greenock prisoner
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/briefs/2025/06/16/TELEMMGLPICT000428911122_17500695504170_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqY4-XNG_7v-V2jIZ3ghNYKEOEAzFGpK2eqJdU0_u3RfM.jpeg?imwidth=1280
    Alex Stewart, a transgender woman in HMP Greenock, was previously known as Alan Baker

    Mark Macaskill
    16 June 2025 2:15pm BST
    A killerโ€™s criminal record was โ€œwiped cleanโ€ after they self-identified as a woman, it has emerged.

    The SNPโ€™s โ€œrecklessโ€ gender policy has been blamed for an administrative mistake that led to a murdererโ€™s criminal record being โ€œcleanedโ€.

    The Crown Office and Police Scotland are now under pressure to investigate the โ€œserious lapseโ€ amid concern the case may not be isolated.

    The bungle was discovered after a solicitor requested a previous convictions disclosure on prosecution witnesses in a case involving alleged conflict inside HMP Greenock.

    The witnesses included the trans woman Alex Stewart, who went by the name Alan Baker before being convicted of murder in 2013.

    Prior convictions for all witnesses were provided, except for Stewart, who appeared to have a clean sheet.

    Sharon Dowey MSP, Scottish Conservative shadow minister for victims and community safety, warned: โ€œThis appalling shambles, which will rightly enrage the public, demands full accountability and transparency from the Crown Office and Police Scotland.

    โ€˜This wonโ€™t be an isolated caseโ€™
    โ€œWe already have dangerous male offenders cynically gaming the system to serve their sentences in womenโ€™s prisons, and that number is only likely to rise if they spot an opportunity of having their records wiped via this ruse.

    โ€œScotlandโ€™s justice system, like all our public bodies, has been in thrall to the SNPโ€™s reckless gender policy, which the Supreme Court has ruled unlawful.

    โ€œWe urgently need a directive from John Swinney to public bodies telling them to uphold the Supreme Court ruling.โ€

    Pauline McNeill, Scottish Labour justice spokeswoman, added: โ€œThere should be no way to erase a criminal record and we need to ensure there are policies in place to ensure that is the case.โ€

    Dr Kate Coleman, of the campaign group Keep Prisons Single Sex, said their research had shown that individuals who switched gender โ€œare awarded uniquely enhanced individual privacy rights which enable exactly this sort of thingโ€.

    She added: โ€œThis wonโ€™t be an isolated case โ€“ this is standard practice north and south of the border.

    โ€œIt has widespread ramifications, including for safeguarding and the operation of Disclosure Scotland checks. For years we have been calling for urgent changes โ€“ not just for the recording of data, but the handling and disclosure of data.โ€

    The Daily Record said the scandal came to light during the case of the hairdresser Jayney Sutherley, who killed a man with a pair of scissors.

    Sutherley, 51, was acquitted at Greenock Sheriff Court last month of carrying out a four-year campaign of transphobic and homophobic abuse against Stewart, 33, and lover Nyomi Fee, 37, a child killer.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/briefs/2025/06/16/TELEMMGLPICT000428911740_17500696857170_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqaivqAvBJWkUV8VzepAMjBRkCIv3505E63jNjQF1Hma4.jpeg?imwidth=680
    Jayney Sutherley fatally stabbed a man through the heart with her hairdressing scissors

    Both are serving time for murder in HMP Greenock, where Stewart was sent from a male prison after deciding to self-identify as a woman.

    When disclosure requests were made by Sutherleyโ€™s defence solicitor, Paul Lynch, for both killers, they returned an accurate record for Fee but a blank sheet for Stewart.

    A correction was only made after the Crown was told that Stewart was appearing in the witness box as a prisoner and serving a life sentence for murder.

    A new search under the killerโ€™s former name revealed their criminal history, including a conviction for the murder of John Weir, 36.

    โ€˜Wicked and brutalโ€™ attack
    In Jan 2013, Alan Baker, 25, invited Mr Weir into his home in Bonhill, West Dunbartonshire, before stabbing him at least 16 times.

    He claimed to have acted in self-defence but was convicted of murder and attempting to cover up his crime.

    In Aug 2013, at the High Court in Glasgow, Baker was told he must serve at least 19 years in jail before being eligible for parole.

    Judge Lord Boyd told Baker he was guilty of a โ€œwicked and brutalโ€ attack.

    A spokesman for the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service (COPFS) said: โ€œAlthough the initial witness check showed no previous convictions, on further inquiry by the Procurator Fiscal this was corrected prior to trial.

    โ€œInformation about previous convictions is provided to COPFS by the police following a check of the relevant databases.

    โ€œCOPFS have asked Police Scotland to review and confirm the processes for recording and sharing information on previous convictions.โ€

    A Police Scotland spokesman said: โ€œWork is ongoing to prevent something similar taking place.โ€
    ********************************
    Alistair Mackay
    2 hrs ago
    The Supreme Court has declared that there are only two sexes. Mr Stewart is obviously not a female so why wonโ€™t the Daily Telegraph describe this bloke as a male?edited

    Fried Green Tomatoes
    3 hrs ago
    This should never happen. Thatโ€™s why this whole gender recognition thing is so ridiculous. It plays right into the hands of criminals.

    1. Will Starmer ever be brought to book for the murkiness of his dealings or will he escape?

      1. There's a sub-clause in the Chagos deal whereby the Chinks will provide him with a hut on Diego Gatcia if things get too hot for him here.

  92. There were many skipping rhymes , some were very dark.

    This one was cautionary , similar to don't talk to strangers .

    Gypsy skipping song โ€“ My mother said, I never should .. Play with the Gypsies .. ฦธำœฦท
    โ€œMy mother said,
    I never should ..
    Play with the Gypsies
    In the wood; ฦธำœฦท
    If I did, she would say,
    Naughty little girl to disobey.
    Your hair shan't curl,
    Your shoes shan't shine,
    You gypsy girl,
    You shan't be mine.
    And my father said
    If I did,
    He'd rap my head
    With the teapot lid.
    The wood was dark,
    The grass was green, ฦธำœฦท
    In came Sally
    With a tambourine. เณ‹
    I went to sea –
    No ship to get across,
    So I paid ten shillings (shillings pronounced shillins)
    For a blind white horse, (horse pronounced hoss)
    I up on his back,
    And was off in a crack –
    Sally, tell my mother
    I never shall come back.โ€
    Anon

  93. Madeline Grant in the Spekkie.

    Kemi was at her best skewering Labour on grooming gangs

    16 June 2025, 5:40pm

    Kemi Badenoch responding to Yvette Cooper (Credit: http://Parliamentlive.tv )
    Yvette Cooper had come to the House of Commons to shut, as loudly and with as much gusto as she could manage, a stable door long after the horse had bolted. The government was finally doing what it had long derided as โ€˜a far-right bandwagonโ€™ and agreed to a national inquiry into the Pakistani rape gangs which blighted small-town England for decades.

    On the bench next to her were Bridget Philistine โ€“ who branded Tory calls for an inquiry โ€˜political opportunismโ€™, Big Ange, whose new rules on Islamophobia would probably have made any of the journalism which exposed the gangs illegal, and Lucy Powell โ€“ the tin-eared, suet-brained embodiment of Blob-think who claimed that mentioning the gangs was a โ€˜dog whistleโ€™. To have this cavalcade of guilty women lined up as the inquiry was announced was almost insulting.

    The detail was repugnant. Gangs had targeted children as young as ten, specifically grooming those with learning difficulties and those in care. โ€˜Perpetratorsโ€™ Cooper told us, โ€˜walked free because no one joined the dotsโ€™. Or rather, they did join the dots, but the prevailing orthodoxy told them to ignore what they saw for fear of being branded racist? That sounds more accurate.

    Cooper admitted that the report had โ€˜identified over-representation of Asian and Pakistani heritage menโ€™ in the gangs. This was like someone earnestly telling the house that they had needed a lengthy and costly investigation to tell them that the sky was blue.

    Donโ€™t worry though: having finally realised what was wrong, Olโ€™ Sherlock Cooper assured the house that she had a plan of action. Inevitably this looked like mashing the same buttons again and again, like an impatient pedestrian at a zebra crossing. They would be โ€˜new lawsโ€™ and โ€˜new police operationsโ€™. If only someone had tried these things before?

    Keir Starmer was on his way to Canada for the G7; exactly the sort of self-congratulatory environment he prefers to dealing with the countryโ€™s problems. Mrs Badenoch, by contrast, had turned up in the House of Commons. She was angry. โ€˜Three times Labour MPs voted against an inquiryโ€™, she yelled as the members opposite squealed and squirmed.

    In parliamentary terms this was probably the best the Leader of the Opposition has been: passionate, coruscating and unambiguously in the right. Itโ€™s just a shame it took such shameful behaviour from the government to bring it out.

    The depths had not yet been plumbed, however, until an intervention by Labour MP for Telford, Shaun Davies, who condemned Rishi Sunak for โ€˜refusing to provide a statutory inquiry intoโ€™ grooming gangs in Telford โ€“ before promptly scuttling away. As leader of Telford and Wrekin Council in 2016, Davies himself signed a letter calling for the then-prime minister and home secretary to reject calls for an inquiry into child sexual abuse in the town.

    There are many things we could say about Mr Davies, a typical Labour 2024 backbencher: so lightweight and ridiculous he might as well be made of helium. We might suggest that his weaselling self-preservation efforts imply a lack of conscience. We might say that his own track record in local government suggests, at best, a lack of competence. We might observe that his attempt today to smear his opponents while simultaneously claiming to โ€˜take this out of the party-political fieldโ€™ suggests that he has no spine.

    However, one thing we cannot suggest that he lacks, in turning up and daring to speak at a moment like this, is a brass neck.

    1. The MP for Telford was very good at blowing his own trumpet when leader of the council. Nary a word about what was going on with the grooming gangs. though.

    2. The government has known about this for 20 years

      and that was in early 2013, more than 10 years ago.

      1. Our useless Political classes are out and out are souls. They deliberately avoided their duties. Just because they are really absolutely pointless. How can anyone now have any confidence in anything that they claim to be the 'job' that they do.

        1. The Left don't care. To them protecting the muslim is all they want.

          muslim are the clients of the state, after all. Endless work creation to protect and shield that revolting intolerant waste that has no place being here at all.

          1. The real long established left wing are relentlessly attempting to destroy our whole country and wipe out all of its passed history.
            We’ve seen starmer on his knees.

      2. It's been going since the 1950s I think. The original Call the Midwife books describe a very similar sounding case. Bet that wasn't in the BBC series.

  95. In all the reams of reports out today about 'Grooming Gangs' one person I've not seen or heard mentioned is the great journalist Mark Steyn, who was sacked from GBN for reporting this issue I think around 2007 (followed up by Charlie Peters also of GBN). Mark had four heart attacks one after the other (bit odd for a perfectly healthy man), his hair turned white and he ended up in a wheelchair, now thankfully recovered. I am thankful also to Louise Casey for finally bringing justice to this issue, but I very much doubt it's fully reported as yet.

  96. Blimey.. they don't mess around.
    IDF inside Tehran.
    Population told to leave city with 20L of fuel.
    IRGC gone.
    Symbolically District 3 & TV station soon to be taken by IDF.

    I think we can assume regime change.

      1. What it says is that Iran will never give up until there is a complete regime change.
        And I doubt that will happen anytime soon.

      3. Underlines the fundamental problem. The fascist Left, muslim are going to have to be erased before they learn.

    2. I can't believe it. Imagine if the entirety of spetsnaz HALO'd into Southampton and said 'sod off pikeys' people wouldn't just leave.

      Even with a thousand of them, heavily armed you simply don't have the manpower to hold a city, let alone a country.

          1. Not necessarily, they've been working totally undercover waiting for the opportunity to strike and strike hard.
            The Hezbollah pagers, the destruction of missile sites: all done looking years ahead.

          2. Wow. Imagine if we had leadership that could think years ahead (as opposed to seconds)

    1. The roof's just fallen in and still a towelhead tosser cries 'God is great'!

    2. Was she selected for her waggly finger?

      I bet the goat-boys enjoy her prostate examinations.

  98. It's still sunny out there – but not so warm as it was and the sun's gone round to the other side of the house. We sat outside to eat – just a bit of Quiche and some leaves – with a glass of Pinot Grigio. OH wore his coat and woolly hat. We're both back indoors now.

    1. Blew a hoolie just now, now gone all still and quiet. Looked like rain, but the wind blew the cloud away.

  99. A short while ago on the south Western Edge of the Cotswolds AONB…. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4716f0b7a1cff3139fc4df850731628dfa2469405a909a965fdab814e1abef69.jpg
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e67110ad80577e321bcb389169141419a127a46856cbc6e7d4b44956bbcdcee4.jpg
    In the distance Bell ringing practice at St. Nicks and just around the corner overhead there's a short gas burn in one of the three Hot Air Balloons
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/42151935fd47c99310a3c1b017b5edf751816f1c51d6d01e52f93f8c51e218de.jpg
    All very far away from the maddening (sic) crowds!

  100. Just after midday I went to the hospital blood department. And had 'a whole arm full' removed…..and what a difference between real well practiced phlebotomists and a lot of the medics who seem to take chances. No brusing. I was seen by one of the nice ladies who use to take my blood every two weeks. For a few years. I've got small veins but had been drinking a lot of water. She left the tiniest of small dots under the cotton wool.
    And she remembered me. I always referred to myself as Mr Stone.
    On Wednesday morning I have to be back there this time at 7:30, lined up for the long awaited knee op.
    Good night Nottlers ๐Ÿ˜ด

    2. Good luck with the knee. MiL had hers done recently, couldn't be more pleased.

    3. Better Half goes for regular blood checks (Diabetes Type 2, much improved since diet change). He always comments on phlebotomist capability, surprising how they differ – are they not trained the same? All the best with knee op, Eddy – he had a hip replaced, was excellent, and I'm sure you will be too.

    2. Better term would be scorpion, as they entice prey in, then sting them.

      I'm surprised plod arrested the gimmigrant rapist – oh, of course. They were just taking him back to the 4 star hotel. No doubt to come back to the honey trappers to arrest them for showing up plod and Starmer.

  104. Libya gets a mention on these pages occasionally, and suddenly a video of Leptis Magna pops up on YT.
    I have had the priviledge of visitng, and used the colosseum as a model for Firstborn's school modelling project a long time ago. We still have it, made from sand-coloured paper, and with flags around the rim.
    Quite spectacular.
    https://youtu.be/3rF7cwtGkCs?si=tZrl5gHbtJFmV2ba

    2. I'll bet my pound to your brass farthing that Libyan's woke don't claim sub-Saharan blecks built that.

      1. I find a lot of Egyptian things pop up in my Fb feed – usually quite interesting – and you can guarantee in the comments there are those who swear blind the ancient Egyptians were all black and the artefacts made by blacks.

    1. It is fear which drives them. Fear of having to confront the truth of their own stupidity.

  106. Eh bien, mes amis, me voici de retour! I arrived back home at 05.40 this morning after a very packed weekend, so I have been good for nothing today. Not much change from normal, really! I was relieved that my French improved after I arrived and I hadn't forgotten everything after about 6 years of not using it.

    Those who tried to cover up the grooming gangs deserve severe punishment, never mind apologising to those who tried to expose it.

    1. Good to see from you, Conners. Glad your French hasn't atrophied – mine seems to have dried up and blown away, not having been used properly since 1992 or so.

      1. It's good to be back. I didn't always have an internet connection in France, still less did I have time to use it! Winston was pleased to be home and I am relieved to say that the brave friend who took him on for the weekend is still a friend!

    2. Out of interest, how long did it take for your French to slap back to fluencia? Mine usually drags its feet for a day or so.

      1. About three hours after arriving Friday evening. By Saturday I was almost back to normal and by Sunday I was almost bilingual again. I now have to consciously think in English! Zut alors!

    3. The quote from Cooper says the institutions will be held to account. Says nothing about any individuals within them.

  107. What's his diet like? Looking for something useful in that area for Type II. Pills have little effect.

    1. He was on low carb for a while, that helped. Now, total Carnivore…no more meds, bloods normal – except when he has carbs (eg birthday cake, but then back on carnivore – beef, lamb, chicken, eggs, cheese, double cream, says he hasn’t felt as well for years). Please check it out before you change anything in your diet, Paul. Good luck, Kate x

      1. The same effect seen in Firstborn, further improved by his exercising a lot.

        1. Yes, he exercises too, helps with his balance. Lost around a stone in weight, can afford to lose more but seems to have stayed where it is.

    2. Blair was the one who encouraged 3rd world immigration by ordering the various embassies and consulates to encourage the locals to come to Britain. All part of the Labour plot to "stick it to" the Tories and create a "guaranteed to vote Labour" benefits dependent base.

      The others fiddled while Rome burned.

      1. Blair must be jailed first. He wanted a voting block and he and Neather (Andrew) made it clear they wanted to 'rub the Right's nose in diversity'.

        Thus Blair and Neather should have their noses rubbed in it to. Chain them in the sewer just enough so they're either constantly straining to keep out of the excrement or are face down in it – forever. Their property, and that of their children confiscated and given away. Chain Mandelscum in there with them. And Grieve.

        3. I keep saying that Blair was the Augustus of British politics. What he did was to change the constitution of Rome/Britain and thus make possible all the evil that came after him.

  111. Captain Hindsight
    2h
    It's hardly surprising that Newsnight failed to do an indepth investigation into this issue. The MSM are also complicit in this over up and continue to not report these crimes even now.

    Dissident
    Captain Hindsight
    2h
    I do hope that female chief cunstable who was on Newsnight with her dodgy statistics, is up before the Commission. Then sacked, and arrested.

    1. As is OFCOM for desperately trying to shut down GB News who actually talked about it.

      The rot runs from the lowest DIE waster all the way to the top of the civil service and encompasses I'd imagine at least a third of the public sector who endorsed – by defending the muslim, attacking those discussing it or trying to silence those talking about – the rape of children by pakistani paedophile muslim.

  112. from David Shipleyโ€™s article on the Casey review in the Speccy:

    โ€œEven more explosive is what Casey says about foreign nationals. It is clear that the immigration and asylum systems, and our non-existent borders, are directly causing the organised rape of children. Casey saw โ€˜evidence of around a dozen live, complexโ€™ police investigations into rape gangs. She notes that โ€˜a significant proportion of these cases appear to involve suspects who are non-UK nationals and/or who are claiming asylumโ€™. Just last week, 1,505 people arrived on small boats.โ€

    1. What I find curious – pretty sure MPs in Northern towns and cities, whatever party, must surely have heard rumours, been directly told (witness Ann Cryer MP Keighley who told Starmer when he was DPP at the time) turned blind eyes. Reliably informed happened/happening? in Dumfries, Scotland and also rumours other places. Perhaps in Wales too. If this goes off the news in a short space of time, we can be sure it's still happening.

        1. There you go, Stephenroi…complicit. Can’t just recall when Ann Cryer Labour MP Keighley told Starmer then DPP of events in her town. I think poss 2007/8. I heard about it on R4 you and yours prog (BBC..again!) I’m not sure if Starmer ever did anything with the info, I think he may have defended some of the accused. Mark Steyn reported it GBN. And now Charlie Peters GBN. It’s not a new issue, never gone away.

  114. Apropos the grooming gangs.

    I wonder how many people who turned the blind eye actually took advantage of the situation and joined in?

    1. The other muslim involved, yes. The white social workers, plod officers, council wonks, social workers, DIE, ESG wasters – no. But their crime is far worse for endorsing the rape of children by pakistani paedophile muslim.

      The rapists should have been told no from the outset – castrated, beated, flogged and hanged. Those doing nothing to stop them are guilty of a far worse crime.

    1. 'From the Penryn area'. I imagine if they were honest and said 'from tax payer force funded hotel housing criminal gimmigrant' it wouldn't go down as well.

  116. I am very hot and sticky and the house feels funny without the Warqueen here. New table arrived. Old one photographed and dismantled. Need some furniture for upstairs for vertical storage.

    Decanted the sugars into jars. I've wanted to do that for some time. Rather happy with the jars as well, but they don't take a full 1kg of sugar – maybe that's a good thing.

  118. Tousi TV reporting Israel is reporting regime change in Iran. Apparently his father is being held by the IRGC.

  119. I've just returned to Roquebrune from Nice. We went there this afternoon and dinner this eve. It was one of the most expensive meals I've ever had and one of the worst. On top of it all, the waiter tried to over charge us.
    Avoid Cote Lounge on the Rue de France at all costs.

    1. Just looked at the menu. Looks about right for Nice. But i can see how the bill would build up to massive proportions. Not the sort of place to go if you are hungry.

        1. Read ‘Down and out in London and Paris’ by Orwell and you would never eat in a posh French restaurant again. They probably dragged your lunch from the kitchen bins.

          Eat local at family restaurants.

          1. This evening we ate at Les Jardins de l’Orangeraie in Roquebrune.
            Small, run by husband and wife with only about six things on the menu. Absolutely sensational. Some of the most delicious food I have ever eaten. What a difference.

  120. 407577+ up ticks,

    Pillow Ponder,

    Surely now that the PM starmer has agreed to a very long awaited enquiry into grooming gangs this labour government can still allow the daily ( two days now since agreement ) invasion of our shores to continue,
    this is ,to my mind bringing in potential paedophiles as in adding high octane to an already explosive situation.

    The PM must stop the intake, or be justifiable accused of openly bolstering the paedophile cause.

    Dt,

    Asylum seekers behind new grooming gang cases
    Baroness Casey reveals large proportion of live investigations involve foreign nationals

  122. Beebsplaining
    22m
    Casey on newsnight re stats
    Home office : 34% completion of data on ethnicity to conclude 88% are whyte.

    Tippexed out Pakistani on a file she saw in person.

    Case reviews don't talk about ethnicity

    And they say it's not hidden๐Ÿ˜ก

  124. Well, chums, I'm now off to bed. So Good Night all, sleep well, and I hope to see you all early tomorrow morning.

  125. Tuesday letter

    Reliance on fossil fuels
    SIR โ€“ Matthew Lynn highlights the supposed stupidity of reducing our North Sea assets in light of the rising oil price (Business, June 14). However, this is less of a concern now than it would have been in the past.

    The UK has implemented a program to achieve the necessary gigawatt hours of long-duration energy storage at rapid pace. This will support the significant volume of renewable generation already available, thereby reducing reliance on gas and lowering costs to consumers, while also creating jobs.

    There have been several energy shocks around the world in the last decade, causing the price of our energy to rise sharply. Surely continuing to rely on a system that could be subject to further shocks is the riskier strategy.

    Ralph Anderson
    Stadhampton, Oxfordshire

    What is long-duration energy storage? Fields full of explosive lithium batteries stacked 40 feet high?

  126. In this wevver I am prone to a.mid-evening zonk on the sofa + waking up in the early hours. I particularly enjoy waiting for the early sunrise before zonking again around 5:30 having imbibed some strong tea & marmaladed toast …. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜ฒ

  127. In this wevver I am prone to a.mid-evening zonk on the sofa + waking up in the early hours. I particularly enjoy waiting for the early sunrise before zonking again around 5:30 having imbibed some strong tea & marmaladed toast …. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜ฒ

  128. I wish I could impose a long and excrutiatinly painful and ultimately fatal Knobrot on all guilty of Grooming Gang Dip-it-in.

  131. What on earth has the Air India air crash to do with the British government ?

    I mean India is a wealthy country , not our fault they have a stinking smelly mortuary and chaos at the airport site , not our fault that the country who sends rockets to the moon and has wealth in gold and sybaritic life styles , why should we be held accountable for the so called dual nationality passengers who lost their lives?

  132. now the EU is after our smoky bacon crisps. Ffs. I thought we had a vote in 2016 about this.

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