752 thoughts on “Monday 2 September: The prorogation protests were just another attack on the democratic vote to leave the EU”

  1. Teachers’ starting salaries to rise to £30,000. 2 SEPTEMBER 2019.

    The move follows rising concern about recruitment and retention of teachers, against a backdrop of soaring student numbers. Last year a Government report warned that there is a “growing sense of crisis” in teacher recruitment.

    Ministers have failed to “get a grip” on teacher retention, a Public Accounts Committee said, adding that it is “particularly worrying” that the number of secondary school teachers has been falling since 2010.

    Morning everyone. No one with an ounce of sense would be a teacher in today’s UK for a truckload of cash!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/09/01/teachers-starting-salaries-rise-30000/

        1. OOOHHH!
          It’s THAT Rifle again!!

          What is it about the L1A1 SLR that makes former Cold War Warriors go weak at the knees when we see a picture of it?

          1. And the L118A2 by Accuracy International?.
            Must have read that on the back of a Corn Flakes box.

          4. ‘Morning, Paul, try the Lee Enfield .303. I did, it was awful however, even though it’s not like-for-like, I did like the Bren Gun.

            Right, I’ll hobble off to Old Guy’s Play Skool.

          5. Howdy, Tom. :-))
            Heavy bugger, the Bren, and very accurate. Strong & simple. Liked it.
            The LE no 4 was OK, better sights than the Mauser K98 (which I own a 1943 example of, for hunting). Stupendous rifle, especially with good telescopic sight, can shoot the d*ck off a gnat at 500 metres!

          7. An interesting difference in machine gun theory between the Wehrmacht and British Army.
            German machine guns were very inaccurate and would often hit almost anywhere except what was actually being aimed at, but they put down a tremendous rate of fire which was a very successful deterrent.

            The BREN however, was superbly accurate, too accurate for a machine gun perhaps and had a slow rate of fire.
            However, that came into its own when used against MG emplacements as shoving 3 or 4 rounds of .303 into the gun portal tended to do a lot of damage to the MG and it was not unknown for a good BREN gunner to force the German gunner to pull the weapon back into the emplacement to prevent it getting damaged!

          8. Yup. Rapid sniping orsuppressive fire.
            Plus the carrying of ammunition to be expended at 1200 rounds per minute…

          9. I did read somewhere that the main task of a Wehrmacht infanteer was to carry the ammunition for the machine gun.

          10. Fired the No.4 in the Army Cadets and rather enjoyed it, despite the bruised shoulder afterwards!
            The kick L1A1 was not a lot less, despite the self loading action.

            The Bren? Lovely weapon to fire.

      2. Morning Bob,

        How very strange that black children in British schools cause so much concern re their patois and anti establishment disruptive attitude .

        Children in African schools are so eager to learn , hungry for schooling , and their English is excellent , although their access to books is rather limited.

        It is interesting to hear how well Middle Eastern migrant children and Indian and Far Eastern children enjoy their education experience .

        Why is there such a difference, and are many white children becoming thicker?

        2. Their parents realise that education is the way to better themselves. It seems now that education is derided in the U.K. by some parents for some reason – maybe because it’s free? Used to be that, if a child was reprimanded at school, that child wouldn’t dare go home and tell the parents because they’d get another telling off. Those days are long gone.

      3. All the teachers who are members of ‘Extinction Rebellion, ‘Thunberg’s climate crisis,’ Remainers protests, etc.. The ones who populate these so-called majot marches through London etc. I expect they will fizzle out when all the teachers get back to school, where they can get back to washing the next generation’s brains…

    3. Morning Minty. Our elder son started teaching in a grammar school in his thirties. He lasted less than three years!

    5. Quite right, the solution is giving the teachers the authority to hand out proper discipline – not more money. (Good morning all NoTTLers, btw.)

        1. Agreed. Governments regularly demand that teachers solve national problems. If they are unable to do so, then they become whipping dogs. If they succeed, then the government claims the credit.

    6. Agreed.
      The psychological effects of my 3y to qualify & 2y actually teaching before I fled like a whipped dog with it’s tail between it’s legs took me several years to get over.

    7. As I have argued frequently teachers should have their student loans paid off for them after about 8 years working in the state education system just as doctors and nurses should have their loans written off after 8 years working in the NHS. These measures would increase their wish to stay working in the state systems

      But first usurious rates of interest on all student loans must be scrapped. To charge students ten times the BoE base rate in interest is sheer theft. In more civilised countries student loans are virtually interest free. Student loans on Britain must be interest free again as they were when they were first introduced

      Students must pay off their student debt – but they cannot do so as things stand. They should be encouraged to pay their debt off by allowing employers to help pay off their debts for them free of tax and for the repayments they make themselves a charge against income tax.

      In brief, – don’t give them anything – just rob them rather less and help them get themselves out of debt! Having a young qualified population permanently in debt will prove to be an unexploded bomb which, if not defused – will go off with disastrous effects..

    8. I cannot endorse your comment too highly. Just this afternoon I remarked to a friend who was enquiring if the children had gone back to school that I was glad I didn’t have to do that any more. When I saw the banner “Want to Teach?” I always muttered, “no thanks! Been there, done that, got the scars!”

    1. Hammond’s face reminds me of a football.

      Whenever I see it I get an irresistible urge to kick it.

  4. More BBC Fake news

    In my view the BBC is falsely claiming the Gove stated the Government would ignore Brexit legislation.. He said no such thing but the BBC seems to want to in my view stir up the anti Brexit protesters by putting out this fake news

    Below what Gove . I am not a lawyer but I would say the BBC would be on a very dodgy wicket if it were taken to court over this

    ” Tory minister Michael Gove has refused to say whether the government would abide by legislation designed to stop the UK leaving the EU without a deal.

    Shadow Brexit secretary Sir Keir Starmer told the BBC MPs would introduce a bill seeking to do that when Parliament returns this week.

    But asked if the government would abide by this if it succeeded, Mr Gove said: “Let’s see what the legislation says.”

    Sir Keir described Mr Gove’s comments as “breathtaking”.

    Cabinet minister Mr Gove also said “some” food prices “may go up” and “other prices will come down” in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

    1. Prices always go up and down. Pretty safe ground there. As for the Government falling into line with the wishes of a bunch of loonie leftie liberal traitors, well, they should think about it.

  5. Morning all

    SIR – The demonstrations over the weekend against the prorogation of Parliament – which is standard procedure at the end of a parliamentary session – were clearly just an excuse to demonstrate against leaving the EU.

    On June 23 2016, 17.4 million people made the effort to get to their local polling stations in order to give the thumbs-down to the undemocratic EU. No amount of Momentum-orchestrated anti-Brexit activity can change that.

    Gerald Heath
    Corsham, Wiltshire

    SIR – I find it odd that those out on the streets at the weekend, allegedly in defence of democracy, should feel such a strong sense of loyalty to an organisation run by a secretive cabal of unelected officials.

    Sue Pickard
    Epsom Downs, Surrey

    SIR – I was greatly amused by some of the slogans I saw at the protests. My personal favourite was “Save Democracy: Stop Brexit”.

    Sam Jefferis
    Keynsham, Somerset

  6. SIR – Can it be right that a prime minister’s advice to the Queen can be challenged in court but unilateral changes to our constitutional arrangements by a partisan Speaker cannot?

    His Honour Charles Wide QC
    Peterborough, Cambridgeshire

    1. Yo All

      Partisan :guerrilla, freedom fighter, resistance fighter, member of the resistance, underground fighter, irregular soldier, irregular; terrorist

      Out of the words above,

      With Regard to UK

      Terrorist fits the bill for him

      For the the EUSSR

      guerrilla, freedom fighter, resistance fighter, member of the resistance, underground fighter, irregular soldier, irregular;

      If he wants to UK to stay in the EU he must resign his position as Speaker and fight on the back benches for his aims

      As he is a diminutive coward he small of mind, small of stature, he is the epitomy of the chip on his shoulder taking over his life.

  7. KPMG joining in project Fear

    House prices could nosedive after no-deal Brexit, says KPMG

    It is another case off a lot of spin and gross exaggeration. Overall house prices are still increasing but at a much slower rate. The main reason gfor house prices not increasing as much is driven by London where for almost a decade hoiues prices were running away. That has now changed and is due to government taxation changes not Brexit

    UK house prices could crash by as much as a fifth if Boris Johnson pursues a no-deal Brexit, and the biggest falls would be in London and Northern Ireland, a leading accountancy firm has said.

    Reflecting the potentially vulnerable state of the property market as Brexit looms, KPMG said house prices would fall by between 5.4% and 7.5% across different regions next year if a new agreement with Brussels was not in place by 31 October.

    The analysis of average house prices across the country showed no deal could trigger a nationwide decline of about 6% in 2020 and that and a drop of between 10 and 20% was “not out of the question”

    House price growth across Britain has slumped since the EU referendum three years ago, and prices fell across the south of England in August for the first time since the last recession in 2009.

    Average prices across the country rose by 0.9% in the year to June, according to official figures, the weakest national growth rate since 2012. The average UK house price was £230,000 in June, about £2,000 higher than a year ago.

        1. Quite.

          I would like to see the 20 occupants of the run down three bed terrace apply to buy.

          The policy would not touch rogue landlords but, as usual with Labour, hammer the middle classes.

      2. That is universally unpopular in a poll run in my local rag. Readers see it as handing over somebody else’s property.

    2. Morning, Bill.
      Do they give a reason why house prices might fall? After all, with unchecked levels of immigration and no reduction of population, the demand is still there. The money might not be available, but would that be the fault of Brexit?
      In any case, surely everyone has been moaning for years that houses are overpriced? That they moan that there might be a price correction is too precious for words…

      1. Pendelton’s Fake News Analyser:
        Does the statement sentence, paragraph or article contain any of the terms “may”, “might”‘, or “could”?
        If so, it would be prudent to consider the subject as being a lie, and the sensible and cautious approach would be to disregard it entirely.

  8. Morning again

    SIR – Hugo Vickers’s understanding of our constitution is in error. He takes Walter Bagehot’s line to an extreme to make a very dangerous point, namely that the monarch must always accept the advice of her ministers.

    This must be corrected. The Queen is bound to uphold the rule of law. She has sworn on oath to do this to the “best of her powers”. Written bits of our constitution, such as the Bill of Rights and the Act of Settlement, aim to control the Crown in its governance.

    The Queen must uphold these while they remain unrepealed. They secure the right of the people to make their own laws and customs. In order to sit in Parliament, all MPs have sworn oaths of allegiance and agreed to abide by the rule of law. So long as they do so, the Queen will indeed accept the advice of her ministers – but, should they propose to disregard the rule of law, she is bound by the law to refuse.

    This is the true status of our constitution, and thus it places limitations on the power of our Parliament so that it may not destroy its own omnipotence and betray the people to a foreign potentate. The Speaker’s stance should be tested against these principles.


    John Bingley


    Lord James of Blackheath


    Rear Admiral Roger Lane-Nott

    
Freddie Forsyth

    1. Parliament has been destroying its own omnipotence by signing its powers away to the EEC/EC/EU since 1972!

  9. WWII: eighty years on, the world is still haunted by a catastrophe foretold. Sun 1 Sep 2019.

    Eight decades on, as the world marks the anniversary of the outbreak of war, it is still necessary to recall not only the allies’ ultimate victory but their greatest failure when confronted with a vast catastrophe foretold.

    In this article the author argues, with not a little sophistry, the case for Allied intervention in the Holocaust. What this argument lacks every time I have read it are practical suggestions as to what might have been done that would have made any significant impact on the extermination program. The writer himself actually includes all the reasons why they didn’t do anything and then goes on to blithely ignore them in his own summing up in the last paragraph quoted above. Aside from its inaccuracy it is a denial of his own line of redundant reasoning, a sort of, “I know you couldn’t do anything but why didn’t you do something?” In actuality there was nothing that could be done and one suspects that there is more than a little self-exculpation involved in making witnesses accomplices to the crime, even if only by innuendo.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/01/world-war-two-eighty-years-on-world-still-haunted-by-catastrophe-foretold

    1. The Allies needed to cut the head off the Beast.
      To have bombed a few death camps would have had no strategic effect whatsoever, and might have worsened the situation for Prisoners of War. During the Great Patriotic War, between 20 and 40 million Soviet citizens perished.

      1. For the benefit of those who do not study the Soviet Union, “the Great Patriotic War” = WW2.

        1. Part of my point is that at least 8,000,000 Soviet citizens were killed in action; I don’t see the London elite rushing to construct a new Virtue Signalling Memorial near Parliament for all those heroes.

    2. I do wonder if we should have used our paratroops to intervene in the Warsaw Uprising, not least because many were Polish. It might, just might, have been a signal to stop the Soviets proceeding so far West. (Arnhem was mostly wasted effort – and hindsight is wonderful.)

    3. Yo Minty

      If only all the social media sites had been operating then

      We could have had “Anne Frank’s Diary” Live
      Is the extermination of a race using Ovens having an effect on Climate Change
      The BBC really thinks that Mr Schickgruber (and his smartly uniformed cohorts) is the man to run Germany
      “I am a POW” get me out of here
      Will lawyers be landing on D Day, (which will be 6 June 1944) with our troops to make sure they do not shoot anyone

  10. Morning, all. Final Bowls selection meeting today. The season is pretty much over for another year. I am closing the green on 22nd September.

  11. September 1 2019, 12:01am, The Sunday Times
    Stop this Brexit ‘coup’ hysteria, remainers: Boris Johnson is no dictator and Westminster’s not on fire
    Rod Liddle

    Day five of the fascist coup. The mutilated corpse of our once proud democracy lies rotting in the cruel autumn sunshine, having been torn limb from limb by Boris Johnson’s snarling Nazi running dogs. My sense of outrage is beyond expression. Even Pol Pot didn’t prorogue parliament for two days longer than usual. But at least there are brave voices of resistance — Hugh Grant, Stephen Fry, Gary Lineker and John Bercow. Johnson’s Gestapo, in their unseasonal trenchcoats, are probably already knocking at their doors.

    Tap “Boris Johnson” and “Hitler” together into Google and you will find 11,700,000 results. This will include the chap on Twitter who said he fully expected the prime minister to start building gas chambers in the UK very soon. One can only hope that if this is true, he gives the project to Chris Grayling, and we can all rest easy. It also includes more esteemed observers such as Prospect magazine, which likened the proroguing of parliament to the burning of the Reichstag. Some of those 11m results will include comments from Johnson himself, who once suggested Hitler would have approved of the EU. The admittedly controversial Austrian gets dragged into an awful lot of political debates these days.

    The hysteria, hyperbole and mass bed-wetting has been remarkable even by the usual standards of our well-bred and thin-skinned metropolitan liberal middle class. The reliably idiotic and histrionic Fry keened: “Weep for Britain. A sick, cynical, brutal and horribly dangerous coup d’état.” Then there was Hugh Grant: “You will not destroy the freedoms my grandfather fought two world wars to defend. F*** off you over-promoted rubber bath toy.” What?

    The Guardian journalist Owen Jones, on the day Johnson made his announcement, tweeted: “EVERYBODY OUT ON THE STREETS TONIGHT, 5.30pm.” I don’t know why 5.30. Maybe he has his cocoa at seven. A few score turned up to protest, including a little group who had a picnic rug, grapes and a decent bottle of sauvignon blanc. Waitrose must be coining it.

    What they had in common, these people beside themselves with pique, is that they are all opposed to Brexit. By which I mean they would have welcomed an unconstitutional intervention if it had meant that Brexit would be delayed or, better still, stopped entirely. By the same token, leavers have welcomed parliament being dismissed as being an expression of democracy — and, further, have swallowed whole the prime minister’s insistence that the proroguing was nothing to do with Brexit. That is surely a downright lie. Dissolving parliament for the equivalent of five working weeks is peremptory, heavy-handed and anti-democratic. And yet it is probably necessary — depending upon what side of the fence you sit.

    This is the problem. Two perfectly noble, but mutually antithetical, notions of pristine sovereignty are here competing against each other. Parliament, with its massive in-built pro-remain majority, has fought long and hard against Brexit — not just against no-deal, but against leaving per se. It has proven itself unable to deliver what was then — still is — the will of the people.

    To my mind, the will of the people has primacy — but then I believe that we are better off out of the EU. In short, the argument is not constitutional at all. And it has nothing to do with coups d’état and Hitler. It is about whether you trust the politicians or the public.

    There’s a lot of schadenfreude on the part of leavers right now. But I still have a suspicion that parliament will have its way and we will not leave by October 31. Which will suit both the remainers and, paradoxically, Johnson: he will be able to say he did everything possible but was thwarted, and would therefore stand a much better chance of winning the subsequent election. Which is what matters to Johnson.

    No-nonsense Cummings sacks aide
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/methode%2Fsundaytimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2Fbb003dae-cc0a-11e9-a5c5-eeafb66e7c98.jpg?crop=1500%2C1000%2C0%2C0&resize=600

    Re-run Agincourt all you want, France. You still lose
    Shakespeare’s description of the Battle of Agincourt in Henry V was fake news — according to the French. Agincourt is famous because about nine English soldiers armed only with sticks beat thousands of elite French troops, thus instilling the worldwide belief that the French are even worse at fighting than they are at pop music and personal hygiene.

    The Agincourt museum has been refurbished and historians dragged out to explain that there were actually quite a few well-equipped English troops (although still far fewer than their adversaries). Pascal Deray, chairman of the local council, wants the museum to become a focus of Anglo-French friendship. Merci, Pascal. The English will indeed enjoy a nice place to gloat.

    Vegan diet turns brains to mush
    Vegans are stupid, according to the British Medical Journal. Well, OK, that’s my somewhat reductive summary of a study by the nutritional consultant Dr Emma Derbyshire. She points out that by eating only chia seeds and flax bake, vegans deprive themselves of choline, without which the brain turns into a kind of sodden, left-wing mush, like the stuff you find when your drains are blocked. Choline is good for memory, cognitive ability and controlling weird muscle spasms of the kind that occur when you offer vegans a full English, or suggest to them that there are only two genders or that the proroguing of parliament is a bloody good idea.

    Whatever makes you gay, it isn’t a gene
    A new and fairly exhaustive study of 409,000 people in the UK has shown conclusively that there is no “gay gene” that predisposes some people towards homosexuality. Any more than there is a gene that predisposes them towards careers as air stewards, an affection for cheesy hi-NRG dance music or a certain talent at interior design.

    None of this means that we should mock gay people or laugh at their lack of a decisive gene. Nor that they should suffer any form of discrimination. But it is another example of hard science contradicting fervently held liberal shibboleths. It has become an article of faith for the LGBT lobbyists that one is simply born gay, and that to dissent from this stricture is “homophobic”. This research would suggest otherwise.

    Welsh knickers in a twist on anti-sex loos
    The authorities proposed installing special lavatories in the fragrant south Wales seaside town of Porthcawl. They were primarily designed to stop people having sex in them. Any “sudden, violent movement” and jets of water would shoot out and the door swing open. The floor is weight sensitive, and if more than one person entered a cubicle, the same stuff would happen.

    This has stricken fear into the town’s sizeable — but vulnerable — obese community, who fear being doused and exposed just for desperately trying to get their trousers down. The council denies ever intending such innovative loos and says the new conveniences will be “of conventional design”. Giving succour then to both the lardbuckets and the sex-obsessed.

      1. Morning BA,
        He was always addressed by his second name his full title was, wait for it,
        Heil Adolf Hitler.

      2. The only name he ever had was Adolf (shortened from Adolphus) Hitler.

        His father, Alois Hitler Snr was the illegitimate child of one Maria Anna Schicklgruber, but he soon adopted the name Hitler before his son was born.

        In 1842, Johann Georg Hiedler married Alois’s mother Maria Anna. Alois was brought up in the family of Hiedler’s brother, Johann Nepomuk Hiedler,

        In 1876, Alois was legitimated and the baptismal register changed by a priest to register Johann Georg Hiedler as Alois’s father (recorded as “Georg Hitler”). Alois then assumed the surname “Hitler”, also spelled Hiedler, Hüttler, or Huettler. The name is probably based on “one who lives in a hut” (German Hütte for “hut”).

        Source: Wikipedia.

        1. An old German once told me that the name Hitler was derived from Hütler – which means a maker of hats. Der Hut = the hat.

    4. No such problems on the latest trains to grace the railway lines of Scotland. ( Infrastructure update). On her most recent unconscionably delayed trip from Glasgow to Inverness. our child found that not only did the electronic toilet door not lock from the inside, but would open at random when anyone passed by in the corridor.

  12. Good morning all. Calm sea; 27C – off to Monaco.

    Tech question – laptop refuses to allow us to print on the printer included in the list of printers. When one clicks on “print” – it refuses to show the actual printer. Any suggestions?

        1. See if you can scan it to your PC as a PDF and then print that.

          Trying to copy on most modern printers means that it goes into ‘deep thought’ mode and when it finally wakes up and starts copying, it does so very slowly and reluctantly.

          That’s why on the Epson we have, I scan and then print what’s been scanned.

          1. Thank, Tom. No scanner. I usually open the crossword page, it is a pdf – then press print – and it prints.

            The problem we are having is that although the printer is shown on the list of printers in laptop “settings” – it refuses to come up as an option when one clicks on “print”. Just a list of other things which we DON’T have!

          3. Almost; all bedding; laptops; printer; wine; kitchen stuff. Self-catering.

            And the MR continues to work despite swimming twice a day. Hence the need for the effing printer.

    5. Good morning Bill and everyone.

      Switch it off and on again. Ditto the printer.

      i) Could be a ‘driver’ conflict, in which case you might try deleting the other printers from the list. Or you might need to update the ‘driver’ on the internet. As I am sure you are aware, (probably more than me) a ‘driver’ is a program that allows your computer to operate and control a printer or other device.

      ii) have you put any unbranded ink or powder in the printer, which might upset the printer manufacturer?

      Do you know about maintenance, such as de-fragging and removing cookies?
      Could you transfer the file (document) to another device such as a tablet and then print it from that?

      PS I know nothing.

    7. 1. Make sure the printer is “installed” in the list of printers.
      2. Try clicking on “preview & Print”, then you get a panel that allows you to change the printer – is your printer there? If not, see (1) above.

          2. Sorry, Paul. It made me more crotchety than usual.

            We had, of course, tried every obvious and less obvious trick in the book. Nothing worked. Both laptops showed the printer in “settings” but would not enable us to transfer it to the default printer setting.

            In the end, the MR went back to HP and downloaded -again – the printer driver.

            IT exists merely to confuse.

  13. If you want to watch an hour of good old fashioned telly – funny, stupid, interesting, riveting – try and see James May making Action Man go supersonic. BBC TV. A few days left. Brilliant

  14. Am I alone in noticing the plummeting in editorial standards of the Daily Telegraph since the group was bought out by the Barclay brothers 15 years ago?

    Despite being proclaimed champions of Brexit and owners of the DT and The Spectator; their takeover of the group, in 2004, coincided with an incremental rise in the influence of the Critical Theory mob who have infiltrated the editorial team of the newspaper (as well as every other echelon of British society).

    The rapid rise in deplorable editorial standards, routinely uncorrected spelling mistakes, banal reporting, Mailesque columnists, and a plethora of reports documenting the rise of something they refer to as the “Far Right” (when they really mean another faction of the Far Left) clearly displays that whilst the Brothers Barclay may own the newspaper, they clearly have no control over its exponentially declining editorial excellence.

    Perhaps their claim to be standard bearers of Brexit is nothing more than a smokescreen, since their leading rag is patently and clearly under the control of Cultural Marxists.

  15. Funny isn’t it? A Parliament that shut its own people out of any say on EU membership for 40 years and pretended to the world it had the support of its people now squeals like a stuck pig when it finds itself shut out.

    Karma’s a bitch.

  16. Good morning all. An early chuckle? …

    If I Die First

    My wife has these days when she wants us to “talk about things.”
    We were discussing aspects of our future, so, when it was my turn I asked her, “What will you do if I die before you do?”
    After some thought, she said that she’d probably look for a house-sharing situation with three other single or widowed women who might be a little
    younger than herself, since she is so active for her age.

    Then she asked me, “What will you do if I die first?”

    I replied, “Probably the same thing.”

  18. A protest against the people. Brendan O’Neill. Spiked. 2 September 2019.

    The demand is for the overthrow of the votes of the 17.4million people who want to leave the EU. When these people say ‘Stop Brexit’, they are saying ‘Stop those people from getting their way; stop their votes from having any impact; stop them from ignorantly interfering in political affairs’. This was a protest against the franchise itself, because if the votes of millions of people in one of the most important democratic exercises in our nation’s history are made null and void – as they would be if these middle-class marchers got their way and there was a second referendum – then the right to vote becomes meaningless. The vote becomes meaningless. The thing ‘our ancestors’ won for us – the vote – would be reduced to dust. There is something sick-making in the sight of Remainers comparing themselves to the Suffragettes and the Chartists as they agitate for the crushing of the votes of eight million women and millions of working-class men. The people whose democratic rights were won through hard struggle would be silenced and disenfranchised by this middle-class mob.

    Yes of course. Once the referendum result is overthrown no future vote will be of any value whatsoever since it may be overturned by whoever possesses the political means. In fact why even bother voting?

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/09/02/a-protest-against-the-people/

    1. Who pays for all the placards, free food and hundreds of coaches for demonstrations in London and Washington ?

        1. I know.

          I’m trying my utmost to wear them to destruction but they’re putting up one hell of a fight.

          When I went in the shoe shop the other week for a new pair, I asked if they’d take them in part-ex but no luck.

          As for the charity shop, more antique shop I reckon.

          2. Morning, Horace. I have a pair of Barkers bought in 1974. They look as if I bought them yesterday.

          3. I’ll hazard a guess that they were British made.

            From my own recent experiences, we seem to be importing a lot of rubbish shoes from overseas.

          4. One pair may be English, other pair is Italian (I have the box). Even then the name gave no reliable indication of origin.

      3. Choosing Shoes. by Ffrida Wolfe

        New shoes, new shoes,
        Red and pink and blue shoes.
        Tell me, what would you choose,
        If they’d let us buy?

        Buckle shoes, bow shoes,
        Pretty pointy-toe shoes,
        Strappy, cappy low shoes;
        Let’s have some to try.

        Bright shoes, white shoes,
        Dandy-dance-by-night shoes,
        Perhaps-a-little-tight shoes,
        Like some? So would I.

        BUT

        Flat shoes, fat shoes,
        Stump-along-like-that shoes,
        Wipe-them-on-the-mat shoes,
        That’s the sort they’ll buy.f

  22. Could language be the key to detecting fake news? Mon 2 Sep 2019.

    Having a reliable way of identifying fake news is important. The whole reason it’s a problem is that it mimics reliable reporting – and people can’t always tell the difference. That’s why, for the past few years, researchers have been trying to work out what the linguistic characteristics of fake news are. Computers that are fed material already classified as misleading are able to identify patterns in the language used. They’re then able to apply that knowledge to new material, and flag it as potentially dubious.

    Who does the classifying in the first place?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/02/language-fake-news-linguistic-research

    2. The research also provides a formula for dressing up fake news to better pass as the real thing.

  24. Carry on. Nothing to see here….

    Tom Watson expected to face calls to resign when extent of ties to ‘Nick’ are revealed in unredacted report
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    The 150-page report is due to be published within a fortnight – although victims of Beech’s lies fear the Metropolitan Police may try to slip it out on a day dominated by Brexit, in order to minimise its impact.
    *
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    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/09/01/tom-watson-face-calls-resign-extent-ties-nick-revealed-underacted/?li_source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget

    1. Watson was and remains an utter shít over this.

      However, I can’t help thinking that the police are trying to suggest that Watson had undue influence to get them off the hook. If there was no true evidence, and I suspect most policemen rapidly came to that conclusion, the nvestigation should have been terminated much, much sooner.

      And that was down to the senior police officers, not Watson.

      1. Yes, but if putting Watson behind bars was the result, I’d be willing to put up with the whitewash.

  25. This very important short story will explain a lot about the goings on in the world today!

    The king wanted to go fishing, and he asked the royal weather forecaster the forecast for the next few hours.
    The palace meteorologist assured him that there was no chance of rain.

    So the king and the queen went fishing. On the way he met a man with a fishing pole riding on a donkey, and he asked the man if the fish were biting.

    The fisherman said, “Your Majesty, you should return to the palace! In just a short time I expect a huge rain storm.”

    The king replied: “I hold the palace meteorologist in high regard. He is an educated and experienced professional. Besides, I pay him very high wages. He gave me a very different forecast. I trust him.”

    So the king continued on his way.

    However, in a short time a torrential rain fell from the sky. The King and Queen were totally soaked. Furious, the king returned to the palace and gave the order to fire the meteorologist.

    Then he summoned the fisherman and offered him the prestigious position of royal forecaster.
    The fisherman said, “Your Majesty, I do not know anything about forecasting. I obtain my information from my donkey. If I see my donkey’s ears drooping, it means with certainty that it will rain.”

    So the king hired the donkey
    And so began the practice of hiring dumb asses to work in influential positions of government. The practice is unbroken to this day.

    2. “… if Parliament cannot agree, then the right way to consult the People is not through a General Election but through a referendum.”

      Hoist with your own petard, Mr. Bliar.

      A referendum that has already been held and, three years later, is still waiting to be implemented.

    3. Failed Lawyer Blair – and it shows. Of course, had the WA been signed, the 2016 referendum would of course have been a mandate for BRINO.

  28. The National Trust having pi**ed off a a largish number of members and visitors with its worship of the Alphabet People and Feminism are blaming the “Hot” summer for its failure to meet its own visitor targets . My opinion is that the people running this show are a bunch of deluded fools.

    “National Trust blames summer heatwave for missing visitor target as it sounds warning about climate change

    The National Trust has blamed the heatwave of last summer for failing to hit its visitor targets, as it warned climate change could threaten the future of its sites.
    The charity said admission incomes were down nearly £5 million against budget due to what it described as “one of the strangest weather patterns in modern times”.
    Scorching temperatures prevailed over the UK from June to August last year, leading to widespread crop failures, wildfires and, it seems, an apathy for wholesome excursions.
    Around 26.9 million people paid to visit National Trust sites in the year ending February 2019, short of the 27.4 million target it set itself, according to its annual report.”
    It said: “We had set a budget of £123 million for the year but the difficult weather conditions in the early season and the very hot weather in the summer affected
    our visitor numbers – admissions income was down nearly £5 million against budget and our commercial contribution missed its target by £10 million.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/09/01/national-trust-blames-summer-heatwave-missing-visitor-target/

    2. With the long hot summer most of our local tourist spots are doing record business, most weekends have seen our local provincial parks full by about 10AM with many late riders turned away.

      Methinks that the hot summer is a feeble excuse.

      1. I suspect the management of the NT weren’t even born then ( or since as I suspect that they and other CP drones are churned out in an underground Android factory run by our Lizard Overlords – all hail Squamata )

          5. I remember the tarmac on the roads bubbling. You must have been in an aircon office or worked nights. :o)

          6. He moved Denis Howell from his position as Minister of Sport.

            Wilson was good on useless and expensive sinecures. Ask Marcia Williams and Lord Kagan.

          9. Thanks. I don’t really remember it, Probably because we just called it ” weather ” then. Climate Change had not yet been invented, and there was no Greta Tunberg to warn us.
            Was Viking 2 related to peddy ?

    4. It is a common theme. The RNLI & RSPCA have done the same

      They want to alienate their core clientele

  30. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0946b175040ff08eca3b1595759d0005b881a430daad8663a808bf8cdd41d5e2.png TRAVELLERS in caravans have set up camp on the protected lawns of Hove’s seafront, to the irritation of nearby businesses who complained little effort was being made to evict them.

    Around 50 caravans and motor homes gradually began to “take over” the Hove Lawns on Saturday, and cars have since been seen driving at speed along the grass.

    The occupants were said to be Irish travellers, groups of whom caused similar trouble last summer after parking further along the promenade.

    The mile-long stretch of green space fringing the Brighton and Hove seafront is afforded special legal protection to stop it being occupied by vehicles. Under the protection, any “vehicle, caravan, tent or other structure” should be removed by the police after 12 hours, once they are given the authority by the council.

    Enraged citizens of Brighton & Hove are mustering today, in their thousands, to perform a mass mince-by in an attempt to get these new-age Pikeys to move on.

    1. Set fire to a couple of the most expensive – the rest will soon be gone and, if that tactic was followed everywhere they appear, they would soon recognise that the few they have left are not welcome here and they might just BO back to Ireland and leave our benefits system alone.

      3. And if some ordinary citizens parked next to the intruders at the same time, it would be reasonable to assume that the police would come and tow them away and leave the intruders in peace ?

        1. Ogga
          Do you follow Gerard’s tweets?
          Seen this?

          This afternoon I have told Richard Braine, UKIP Leader, that I have
          withdrawn my offer to be his Deputy Leader. He has been unable to
          appoint me due to the NEC’s opposition. I have now solved a problem for
          him while enabling me to pursue my own course. More on that later.

          More on that later?
          Have you heard any more?

          1. Evening EE,
            Not a thing, I do not believe for one minute he is taking this issue lying down so I do think that “more of that later ” has some content.

          2. I am only staying in the party to await Gerard’s instruction.
            You know he has been to Belmarsh to visit Tommy?
            That is on his twitter too.
            Here is the link to follow it – if you haven’t done so.
            He has put up some very good points…..

    4. I doubt that many of Brighton’s ‘liberal’ community will be keen to be interviewed by the media about this particular form of cultural enrichment, especially as the itinerants have an unforgiving view of unorthodox personal relationships.

    1. Oh No! Shock horror! International banker says something sensible and rational out loud. His superiors have been quick to say that he “miss-spoke” and the MSM have used it out of context.

  33. The picture above is a disgrace. These protesters, like the caravanners at Hove, should be locked up and the key thrown away. Time to restore a decent society.

    1. Which picture, Tony?

      If they’re Lefty Remainers, ABC Marchers or Bollox to Brexit demonstrators or any combination thereof, the Police won’t touch them.

      1. The one at the top.As a last resort, it is time for them to be touched. It is possible to protest in an effective way without behaving like a bunch of thugs.

  35. Number of children to develop ‘werewolf syndrome’ after being given contaminated medicine in Spain rises to 20 as families prepare to sue pharmaceutical company
    Pharmacies in Granada, Cantabria and Valencia in Spain received mislabelled syrup which they then mixed into a formula to treat acid reflux in children
    It contained hair loss prevention medicine, minoxidil, rather than omeprazole
    Families are joining a lawsuit to sue the pharmaceutical company responsible
    All of the company’s medicines have been recalled and their laboratory closed

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7418535/Spanish-families-prepare-sue-pharmaceutical-company-kids-werewolf-syndrome.html

  37. ‘Morning, Peeps.

    A greenie member of the London Assembly was arrested yesterday for obstruction (and you will have to look very hard on the BBC website to find it):

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/09/01/watch-green-politician-arrested-at-london-anti-boris-protest/

    Martyrdom beckons. Eat your heart out, Caroline Lucas.

    Edit: Meanwhile a former BBC journalist is looking forward to many deaths amongst the elderly, by depriving them of ‘flu vaccine or otherwise starving them to death:

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/08/31/former-bbc-broadcaster-brexit-voters-should-be-deprived-flu-jabs-left-starve-and-die/

    Nice.

    1. Actually she was caught jaywalking, or to be precise jaydancing while singing ‘Here we go round the roundabout’. As you do.

      1. It was insulting reply to the police after they issued her with a verbal warning to stop that got her arrested.

  38. Oh look…………….

    Piers Corbyn says man made climate change doesn’t exist and debunks conventional climate change science as based on ”data fraud”……………………….

    ”WeatherAction defends evidence-based science and policy making as the ONLY science. WeatherAction completely supports campaigns for GeoEthical accountability and CLEXIT – Exit from UN Climate Change Deals and against data fraud and political manipulation of data and so-called scientific claims now dominating climate and environmental sciences. Evidence shows that man-made climate change does not exist and the arguments for it are not based on science but on data fraud and a conspiracy theory of nature. (see “Why the CO2 ‘theory’ fails “, below)”

    http://www.weatheraction.com/

  39. The Guardian view on Johnson’s troll tactics: outrage critics, energise supporters. Editorial. Sun 1 Sep 2019.

    If anti no-deal Conservative MPs had been able to meet the prime minister on Monday, they could have asked him what has changed in a few weeks to see a no-deal Brexit go from being a “million-to-one shot” to now having a “50-50” chance of happening. Boris Johnson’s so far mercifully brief time in office has, by his own words, reduced the likelihood of negotiating a deal with the European Union 500,000-fold. Truth has long been a casualty of Brexit, but with Mr Johnson’s ascent to Downing Street Britain has truly fallen victim to a virus of populism. The prime minister is complicit in undermining deliberative democracy and replacing it with lies. The will of the people, absurdly, is now defined by the 52% who voted leave three years ago. The government unfairly tars its opponents as deviously powerful groups of remainers who are adept at using institutions like the courts to frustrate Brexit.

    You couldn’t make it up. The majority result in a referendum is now an absurdity! There is no reasoning here! We have gone beyond that. The whole system that has ensured orderly government in the UK for nearly 300 years has collapsed.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/01/the-guardian-view-on-johnsons-troll-tactics-outrage-critics-energise-supporters

      1. “Leave, because I’m Chaotic Neutral and I just want to see what will happen.”

        That is an inspired option to include, from someone who has obviously has a past reading lots of books and modules late into the night. I tend to switch between Lawful Good and Chaotic Good, depending upon how many pro-EU lies I am fed by the media and politicians.

        “Where did I leave that beautiful British Longbow? Forget reasoned debate and the guiding wisdom of the law, an arrow is the only thing these people will understand.”

          3. Ahh – If you had used the full name Aethelfled I would have followed you. I only knew her formally and not by Ethel. A bit like calling Her Majesty “Betty.” I like the idea of a Monarchy for historical cultural reasons, but I am under no illusions that they are “better people by birth.”

            Our current Queen, however, has earned a great deal of respect for the way that she has given her life over to the role of being our Monarch. I would certainly give far more weight to any orders that she gave, compared to the majority of our “elected” Members of Parliament whose orders I would dismiss out of hand.

    2. Good job then Boris never made it as a bookie. I’d have taken him on with those odds – a £1 wager might make me a millionaire overnight! Worth a punt. Who’d be financing all these new millionaires though?

      Giving unrealistic odds over an outcome is hardly a lie though.

    4. Morning, Araminta.

      It’s little wonder that people of the Liberal Left/Marxist persuasion view macro level results as absurd when they are in the front rank of pushing micro level views/events such as pride, transgender, homosexuality, islam, immigration etc. and attempting to make criticism of these views/events criminal offences. Control by the minorities is the new democracy in the warped view of these people.

    5. Is there a coherent remainer on the Nottlers’ site?

      If so then please could he or she explain how we can achieve a better negotiated agreement than Mrs May’s WA which has already been rejected three times when the EU refuses to negotiate?

      1. Unfortunately no Richard. Though one understands the unanimity of opinion here there are times when one would like some reasoned opposition!

      2. There’s a challenge! But one that is rather a chimera. We leave with nothing in writing, just a triggered Article 50 to go on.
        Then we can do a deal, from a position of overwhelming strength.
        The way to deal with bullies is not to give in, not to hand over pocket money, not to carry their bags, not to laugh at their jokes. It is to punch them in the face as hard as you can. Size does not matter in this context. If they come straight back at you, then run. If they don’t, then hit them again. Now you own them.

        1. It’s all in the attitude.
          Just watch the video on YouTube of the tiny black kitten chasing off the huge alligator for an example of attitude winning all.

      3. We leave, escape their clutches and let them come to us, wanting a deal. They sell more to us than we sell to them. We are one of their most important markets. Market forces, rastus.

    6. Not only do they not understand democracy (ie a majority vote by the people wins), they are even more mathematically challenged than I am!

    1. Dubai was a tedious place. An enormous shopping mall of a place with everywhere evidence of man’s arrogance and contempt. Nobody on the streets. No sense of place.

      2. Also, looking at the carbon footprint in the picture, it sounds an ideal location for an Extinction Rebellion protest instead of them clogging up our busy streets.

    1. That creepy look in her eyes reminds me of those children in the film 1984 who would just stand there silently watching you. Waiting to report their parents, or any neighbour, who did ANYTHING that did not show complete submission to the state.

    2. https://news.sky.com/story/greta-thunberg-replies-to-critics-of-her-aspergers-being-different-is-a-superpower-11800372

      “Following a 15-day boat journey to New York,
      she delivered a short speech where she appeared exhausted and lost for
      words, a moment seized on by her critics as a sign she was being used by
      adults.”
      “Greta Thunberg has hit back at her critics, describing her Asperger’s as a “superpower”.
      Mentally ill. Sad to see in a child who should be protected by her parents rather than exploited.

      2. Being neuro-atypical is not an illness. I don’t know about superpowers, but I know I can get my head around lots of stuff that my neuro-typical colleagues struggle with.

  42. “Guido can now reveal there is extensive precedent of Governments

    asking the Queen to not sign legislation they don’t approve. Anti-Brexit

    spokesman Tony Blair himself used this power on a number of occasions to “quell politically embarrassing backbench rebellions”. Perhaps most notably to block a bill by Tam Dalyell in 1999 that aimed to give MPs a vote on military action against Saddam Hussein.

    Going further back, Labour PM Harold Wilson used the Queen’s veto to kill off two “politically embarrassing bills” about peerages and Zimbabwean independence, in 1964 and 1969 respectively

    Alastair Campbell has been reacting furiously to Gove’s refusal to commit the government to obeying any law parliament passes; when asked about Blair using the same tactic, he conveniently failed to recall the case…”

    Sauce for the goose……………………..

    https://order-order.com/

    1. Have you not received the memo It is ok for the left to do so and in fact that have been campaigning to have Brexit Perogued

  43. I was listening to the radio this morning where some Left Wing Extremist was having a rant. Apparently they are all peaceful and comply with the law well except when they decide the law should be broken and violence should be used. On the other hand he claimed all right wingers are very violent and racist and break the law. I must say I find it hard to think of any Right Wing extremist groups. I think his idea of Right wing extremists was any one that supported Boris or Nigel

    2. Anyone who didn’t agree with him, more like.

      The Left have always been violent thugs. Because they are so utterly obsessed with their own self righteousness they believe any actions is acceptable as long as it’s for their cause. It’s the basis of Mao’s great leap forward, after all. The end justifies the means. The cry of the oppressor throughout history.

  45. Two million face statelessness as India’s Assam publishes citizens’ list to weed out ‘illegal migrants’. 31 AUGUST 2019 •

    The list only applies to Assam, where large influxes from elsewhere have for decades made the state a hotbed of both inter-religious and ethnic tensions. But Mr Modi has eyed a similar scheme on a national level, speaking on the campaign trail ahead of his re-election in May of his desire to establish India as a “homeland for Hindus”. Home Minister Amit Shah said the country should be rid of “termites” and “infiltrators”.

    Isn’t this racist? Ah stupid me (bangs head on keyboard) none of them are white!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/31/two-million-made-stateless-indian-state-assam-publishes-citizens/

    1. No, no, no! And thrice No! Who is going to pick the tea? This could mean a shortage of tea-bags in the UK after Brexit. A BBC spokesperson said that the tea harvest may rot on the bushes as there might not be enough highly trained brain surgeons tea pickers to complete the harvest.

    2. As long as there’s someone there to pick the camellia sinensis var assamica, I don’t care what they get up to.

    3. Strange how both Hindus and Muslims (and Sikhs) are keen on homelands in the Indian sub-continent, but have not, thus far, demanded homelands within the UK.

      PS – Assam can be such a lovely tea.

      1. The standard English Breakfast blend is a mix of Ceylon (which provides delicacy), Kenya (which provides cheap bulk), and Assam (which provides the strength).

        I drink Assam alone because it doesn’t need any adjuncts. It is my favourite tea.

  46. Little Johnnie’s neighbour had a baby. Unfortunately, the baby was born without ears.

    When mother and new baby came home from the hospital, Johnnie’s family was invited over to see the baby. Before they left their house, little Johnnie’s dad had a talk with him and explained that the baby had no ears.

    His dad also told him that if he so much mentioned anything about the baby’s missing ears or even said the word ears, he would get the smacking of his life when they came back home.

    Little Johnnie told his dad he understood completely.

    When Johnnie looked in the crib he said, ‘What a beautiful baby.’

    The mother said, ‘Why,Thank you, Johnnie.

    Johnnie said, ‘He has beautiful little feet, beautiful little hands, a cute little nose and really beautiful eyes. Can he see all right?’

    ‘Yes’, the mother replied, ‘we are so thankful; the Doctor said he will have 20/20 Vision.’

    ‘That’s great’, said Little Johnnie, ‘coz he’d be fücked if he needed glasses.

  47. OT – our printer ishoo.

    After four hours, and a lot of swearing – and my managing to break a pint bottle (full) of olive oil..- the MR solved it.

    Thanks for all your helpful hints.

        1. In the final analysis it probably will have been, something was off that should have been on or vice versa. The difficulty is in the finding.

    3. I’d love to know what on Earth you were doing trying to fix a printer issue with a bottle of olive oil!

  48. Election 2017

    Parliament dissolved and UK has no MPs

    What was Labour saying about this being unprecedented ?

    The UK will have no MPs for a few weeks after Parliament was prorogued last week and then dissolved in the early hours of Wednesday.
    But the clerk of the Commons, David Natzler, said the buildings would be more open than usual, and it was no holiday for the 2,300 staff who work there.
    He told Daily Politics presenter Jo Coburn: “Parliament no longer exists as an institution, it dissolved at 12.01am this morning,

    1. Q: What did the copper say to the sulphuric acid?
      A: I’ve been dissolved
      That is why policemen are called the men in blue

    2. “Parliament no longer exists as an institution, it dissolved at 12.01am this morning,”
      That’s worth a few drinks this evening.

  49. And still they bang on about the ‘Irish backstop’ as if it presents the only obstacle to reaching an agreement with the EUSSR and moving on to the sunny uplands, where we will all live happily ever after.

    This so-called ‘backstop’ is, and always has been, a typical ‘smoke-and-mirrors’ piece of Euro trickery. It was deliberately invented so the EU could appear to make concessions at the eleventh hour and the Remoaner fifth-column in the UK could then say “Ooh Look, no backstop, the EU are reasonable people. Let’s pass May’s WA and we’ll be respecting the result of the referendum!”

    In truth, as is blindingly obvious, the WA was a disingenuous attempt by Merkel and her acolytes, May and Hammond, to keep the UK a vassal state, locked-in under the hegemony of Brussels* in perpetuity with no possibility of regaining our sovereignty.

    Don’t fall for it, Boris, just don’t you bloody well fall for it.

    *For Brussels, read Berlin

    1. Many of us have been making this very point since the Irish bumstop (as I call it) was raised.

      The WA with or without the bumstop is a disaster which will destroy both Britain and the Conservative Party if it is allowed to pass.

      Bring on the general election – if Boris makes a pact with Nigel Farage he will win; if he does not he will lose and we shall have a Corbyn/Swinson coalition which will be an unmitigated disaster.

    2. To be fair, the Sunday Telegraph mentioned the Irish border problem as early as 26th June 2016. In the same edition the late great Chris Booker warned that disentanglement from the EU would take years.

    3. Don’t forget the multi billionaire globalist who controls the EU and who met with the European Commission 68 times in 2018.. Nothing happens if he disapproves which explains the reason EU policy is identical to his.

      That’s why the WA looks like his creation and the intended globalist solution to Brexit.

  51. Hilarious report on the Bbc news at the moment. Anita McVeigh desperately trying to get food retailers to admit that Brexit will be disastrous. Everyone she talked to says it will have little effect, with a fishmonger claiming it will probably reduce the cost of non-EU exports. One interesting point about flower imports was that currently they go through the Amsterdam Flower Exchange, and so could delay exports to the UK with a no-deal Brexit. The chap interviewed didn’t mention that many of the flowers actually come from outside the EU and could travel to the UK directly instead.

    1. Dear life R4 was tedious this morning. Lefty after Lefty wheeled out to support the hard Left pro remain line.

      The presenters almost wanted to say ‘look, just tell everyone we’re all going to die and that we’ll have no food.’

        1. Apropos of not very much, I remember an edition of Harpers & Queen magazine from the 60’s/70’s that had, “Putting Descartes before the horse” written along it’s spine.

    2. About 75% of our food is sourced either from the UK or from non EU countries. It is probably ls than the 25% due to the Rotterdam affect as well as us sending food to the EU for processing who then ship it back. We could start processing it our-self

    1. An interesting point.

      The Remainers like to claim that Leavers are stupid. But I am sure that if one house had a pro-Leave poster in the window and the adjacent house had a Remain poster then the leave house would be the one that was vandalised.

      So even though Remainers delude themselves into thinking they are more clever few would deny that Remainers are the more yobbish – just look at Bercow, Soubry, Stewart, Clarke and Gauke – complete oiks the lot of them.

      2. Not to mention, that they’re also complete hypocrites.
        They’d be ok with someone throwing a brick through a Leaver’s window, but would go into meltdown if they received a brick through theirs.

  53. Elephant and Castle stabbings: Man dies after two knifed at south London Tube station

    Has the Mets commissioner gone missing? Total silence from her on all these stabbing

    A murder hunt was launched today after one of two young men who were stabbed at a central London Tube station lost his fight for life.
    The 24-year-old was rushed to hospital after being knifed at Elephant and Castle station on Sunday night.

    He was pronounced dead this morning, British Transport Police said.
    A 25-year-old man remains in hospital in a serious condition.

    1. Time to enforce proper penalties for the use of guns and knives by the riff-raff. Stop and search, even if you are black, and any weapons found confiscated.

  54. Yer French murder – latest:

    An Afghan man was believed to have been in a “psychotic state” and on drugs during a multiple stabbing in France that killed one person and injured eight others, but investigators say the suspect doesn’t have any terrorist ties. A psychiatric evaluation of the man in custody revealed he was experiencing “paranoid delirium” during Saturday’s attack, prosecutor Nicolas Jacquet said.

    The suspect reported he “heard voices” telling him to kill, according to Jacquet. A 19-year-old man died after being stabbed with a knife in the attack outside a subway station in the Lyon suburb of Villeurbanne.

    Passers-by surrounded and apprehended the assailant before police arrived, according to the prosecutor. He thanked them.

    I feel just so happy that he wasn’t a terrorist……(sarc)

    2. I’m sure that the dead man’s family is now at rest knowing it was not terrorist related. The Qu’ran, of course, is not in any way an inspiration to murder the kuffir.

      1. Neither, of course, is the mental instability caused by the increasing consanguinity in marriages within a certain group.

  55. I’ve developed Elvis syndrome. This afternoon, for the first time in my life, I can raise one side of my top lip to give a genuine Elvis sneer.

    I’ve just eaten a dish of cold porridge for my dinner. Tonight I shall have a dish of cold rice pudding for my supper. Nothing hot. Can anyone guess why?

    Peddy?

      1. Sue, Peddy, Boot.

        Soc is nearest, it is teething problems.

        I’ve had two titanium molar implants inserted this afternoon at upper left 4 and 5. (numbness hasn’t worn off yet). The drilling into the bone was OK but the hammering in of the implants was a tad surreal!

        Nothing hot today to eat or drink and no chewing on that side for a few days yet!

        I feel for you, Sue, knowing what you are going through (and these things always happen on a Saturday!). My implants are in the same site as my previous root canal work and the crown that kept coming off with less and less tooth to affix it to.

        1. Back in the old days a very popular 21st present was a full clearance of you teeth to be replaced by false ones. times have changed.

          3. Dentistry in the 50s and 60s was torture and prolonged. false teeth were in abundance and at night rested in a tumbler of cleaning fluid. Women expected to have all their teeth out in their midlife. There were no high speed drills and drills were, I presume in short supply, as ones used on me were blunt and took a long time to drill. Teeth were taken out and not replaced. I have all my incisors and a premolar on either side, one on top and one below. You could hear the drill going on the street at Motherwell cross. when you walked past.

          4. Even in this enlightened age not all wearers of false teeth take their dentures out at night; some keep them in from one month’s end to the next. The result, sooner or later, is a condition known as ‘denture sore mouth’. The cure is simple – leave the dentures out at night so that the mucous membranes can ‘breathe’.

            Your blunt ‘drills’ are actually the burs, which are rotated by the drill. Stainless steel burs become blunt fairly quickly & should be replaced on a regular basis. I once did a locumship near Hamlin where the owner of the practice was known for being ‘economical’. All the burs were blunt, although there were plenty of new ones in the cupboard, so I asked for them to be exchanged. “We can’t do that without Frau Doktor’s permission,” came the reply. So I had all the blunt burs stored in matchboxes, new ones installed, & told the nurses they could swap them back when I left.
            Tungsten carbide burs are tougher, so stay sharper longer. Nearly all high-speed burs are diamond-coated.

          5. https://www.smileinaday.co.uk/?infinity=ict2~net~mac~ar~75866406284444~kr~75866520239384~kw~teeth%20in%20a%20day~mt~e~cmp~Dental%20Implants%20%7C%20Smile%20in%20a%20Day%20-%20G%20Import~ag~Smile%20In%20a%20Day%20%7C%20Teeth%20in%20a%20Day&msclkid=1660aa6eeb3f110dbe1ff703ac2a0b30&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Dental%20Implants%20%7C%20Smile%20in%20a%20Day%20-%20G%20Import&utm_term=teeth%20in%20a%20day&utm_content=Smile%20In%20a%20Day%20%7C%20Teeth%20in%20a%20Day

          6. Both sets of my parents had lost all their teeth before they were 40. I blame the sugar ration and possibly brexit.

          7. Brian “Pitbull” Moore, the England hooker, started his rugby playing career with Nottingham, his home town, in the amateur days 30 years ago. He also had a good job in that city as a solicitor.

            Of course there were no transfer fees nor wages in rugby but Brian was happy to continue playing for Nottingham despite having all his teeth smashed by the punches and kicks from opponents. He said that he would get his teeth “fixed” when his playing career was over.

            Now, as we know, money talks.

            Brian was approached by the directors of Harlequins RFC in London; a group of men with lots and lots of dough and lots and lots of influence. They wanted Brian to play for their club, since he was the best hooker in the country, but they couldn’t buy him, nor could they pay him, so they got him by another means.

            A top, highly-remunerated solicitor’s job incredibly became available at one of the inns of law in the City of London. If Brian took it he could then play for Harlequins. Not only that, he was offered the services of a top orthodontic surgeon, at no personal expense, to have ALL his teeth removed and replaced by implants.

            Pitbull has now retired from rugby and has jobs in the media. He also has a far more dazzling smile than he ever did in his Nottingham days.

          8. I also believe that he retained the job on merit.

            His autobiographies are a good read, particularly the second one.

          9. I’ve not read the autobiographies. I was told the story by an ex-team mate of his at Nottingham.

          10. If you enjoy an autobiography I recommend them; they provide a real insight into his character, the second is very much more warts and all.

        2. That was me a month ago. still not right .. my jaw aches because I had to keep my mouth open for an hour and a half.. I feel for anyone who has toothy probs .. not nice.

          1. I can assure you he used a hammer and he told me he was doing so before he started tapping it. I’ve only had the anchors positioned, not the “teeth”.

            The bridges will be screwed into the implants when my jaw has healed in around 10-15 weeks time.

          2. What an earth are they doing? You can get it done in a day . complete wih a temporary set of teeth

          3. I am in the hands of an experienced professional orthodontic surgeon who has inserted state-of-the-art titanium implants. The bone and gum has to heal before the teeth are affixed to them in three months’ time.

            I haven’t a clue what you are talking about but the idea of giving you working implants, all in one day, is either a figment of your warped imagination or you have seen a quack dentist.

          4. The bone will regrow around those anchors. Unless there is infection. Don’t listen to copy & paste Bill.

        4. Hope they settle soon. We know how you like your food !

          My dentist has an emergency number anytime day or night. I pay £30 a month which covers everything but Lab work. Well worth it for me. Works out at £360 per year and my hygienist costs £160 of that. Denplan.

    2. Along with a lot of other Swedish residents you’ve developed Greta’s I”m all at sea” syndrome?

      No, you’ve developed an abscess..

    3. Have you made an appointment with your dentist? Seeing mine tomorrow morning. A bit of tooth just dropped off into my lunch on Saturday. The tooth is dead, having been the subject of root canal treatment many years ago, therefore no pain. Hopefully a large filling needed and not another implant. If yours is heat sensitive, it’s painful?

      1. Yo Sue

        Peddy = Dentist =Toothwright.

        I lost my ‘crown’ eating a piece of Camenbert, which had been matured in Walnou Oil, at Michelin * cafe in France

        The meal cost more than being recoronated, when we got home

        2. I collected my gold crowns as they fell out. They only lasted about 5 or 6 years. I had 7 in the end and i sold them to a Jeweller in Birmingham. Got £70 for them. Don’t let thieving dentists keep them.

    4. Hello Grizzly,

      I never knew that you have been trying Elvis sneers at mealtimes throughout your life. Congratulations on attaining the first, today!

      It may disappear as the anaesthetic wears off, though… :o)

      1. Hello, Lass.

        Te anæsthetic hasn’t worn off yet. I have some parrot-seed-a-mol ready for when it does!

  56. Why would anyone be red hot for the Maastricht Treaty ?

    I really can’t think of any reason at all !

    Oh wait……………

  57. Obviously everything is as a result of Brexit

    The lazy assertion that Hurricane Dorian is caused by climate change
    Ross Clark – Coffee House – 2 September 2019 – 1:35 PM

    https://spectatorblogs.imgix.net/files/2019/09/GettyImages-1165402826-1.jpg?auto=compress,enhance,format&crop=faces,entropy,edges&fit=crop&w=820&h=550

    Hurricane Dorian had hardly struck the shores of the Bahamas before Twitter began to fill up with comments willing it to carry on and flatten Donald Trump’s Mar a Lago estate in Florida ‘to teach the climate change denier-in-chief’ a lesson.

    Others eviscerated Florida senator and former governor Rick Scott for suggesting on Fox News that ‘we don’t know what the cause is’ of a run of strong hurricanes. From Al Gore to David Attenborough, footage of hurricanes is used as a staple background for films about climate change, the inference being that the viewer is watching the effects of a dreadful, man-made disaster which would not have occurred had it not been for human-induced climate change.

    Dorian is an especially severe storm which has already caused one reported death and will inevitably leave vast destruction in its trail. But you don’t need to make light of that, nor defend the ignorance of Donald Trump (who has expressed surprise on several occasions that there is such a thing as a category five storm, in spite of the current hurricane measurement system having been in use since 1971), to recognise that Rick Scott is correct. The science does not support the lazy assertion, made every time we have a hurricane or tropical storm, that we are watching climate change in action and that anyone who says otherwise is an idiot and a denier.

    Last month, the Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory (GFDL), part of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, which tracks and studies all storms in the US, published a review of the evidence on this very question: is climate change making hurricanes worse?

    Its conclusion was that ‘it is premature to conclude with high confidence that human activity – and particularly greenhouse warming – has already caused a detectable change in Atlantic hurricane activity’. It is well worth reading, not least to compare and contrast with the rather skewed presentation of scientific evidence which appeared in the Guardian a year ago when Hurricane Michael was being blamed on climate change.

    What emerges from these documents is that if you want to look for it, you can find enough evidence to give the impression there has been a dramatic rise in hurricane activity over the past century, and infer that man-made climate change is the cause.

    For some of this evidence there are obvious objections. The Guardian piece, for example, uses figures for hurricane damage as a proxy for hurricane activity. It ought to be obvious that the amount of financial damage wrought by a hurricane is a function not just of wind strength and wave height but of the value of property which lies in its path. Hurricanes are now striking areas which were not populated in the 1950s but are now full of valuable villas and condominiums. Of course they cause more damage.

    Other evidence for rising hurricane activity is equally problematic. As the GFDL explains, you can measure a strong upwards trend in the number of Atlantic hurricanes recorded since 1878, but it means nothing without taking into account the vast improvements in technology over that time. In the 1870s hurricanes only got recorded if they happened to be in the path of passing ships. Now, they are instantly picked up by satellite. If you look only at data of storms which have made landfall in the US, they show a downwards trend.

    Looking ahead, the GFDL’s modelling suggests that climate change will have an effect on the strength of hurricanes. It forecasts that their intensity could rise by between 1 and 10 per cent and the rainfall they dump on areas in their path could increase by 10 to 15 per cent. But that would only be when global temperatures have risen by two Celsius above 19th century levels. At present the measured rise is only half this. But even then, it is not clear that the overall hazard of hurricanes will increase – because the modelling also shows that climate change will decrease the number of tropical storms.

    In other words anyone who claims that Dorian, or any other hurricane, is a product of climate change and asserts that it would not have happened, or would have been less damaging, without man-made climate change does not have science on their side. On the contrary, it is they who are denying the evidence.

    2. It’s a good example of ‘risk v hazard’. Risk is the probability of something happening, whilst hazard is the probability of it affecting humans.

  58. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c6cb942cd5fbded0c70e0af2447ac80e88bd7cb4b2fdb70465625368433bc49f.png What really pisses me off about this report are the declining standards of the public. The officer himself had laughed off the incident (as most proper bobbies would) but it took an “offended” member of the public to have the woman prosecuted.

    If I had a tenner for every time a woman had come on to me when I was a young copper (yes, I had my bum—and elsewhere—groped dozens of times when I was on duty, as well as being in receipt of numerous “suggestions”) I would have retired quite rich.

    The complainant in this case should have been told to piss off and get a life.

      1. At that particular time perhaps the CPS were extremely busy and were unable to follow up on all alleged crimes that might have warranted prosecution. Dealing with this offence possibly meant that they would have had to entirely drop a case involving the alleged gang rape of two thirteen year old white girls by ten muslim men. That is how it works is it not? Alleged crimes have to be let with according to their perceived seriousness. We can all agree with that.

    1. “Bottle of sauce, please.”

      “HP?”

      “No, I’ll pay cash.”

      “Oh, and a bar of soap as well.”

      “Scented?”

      “No, I’ll take it with me.”

  62. Spanish Performer Joana Sainz Garcia Killed After On-Stage Pyrotechnics Explosion

    Why an earth did they use something so dangerous on stage?

    A Spanish performer has been killed after a pyrotechnics accident while on stage at a festival near Madrid.
    Singer and dancer Joana Sainz Garcia, 30, was hit in the stomach by a pyrotechnics cartridge in the town of Las Berlanas in the early hours of Sunday morning.
    She was on stage with her group the Super Hollywood Orchestra closing the four-day event when the accident happened.

  63. Brexit: Election discussions in No 10 amid Brexit battle

    Just BBC speculation but I am sure Boris wil have a contingency plan should it come to a general election

    2. How can advice even be challenged in a court,. Courts are supposed to adjudicate on the law and not get involved in politics

  65. Oh look…………….

    Piers Corbyn says man made climate change doesn’t exist and debunks conventional climate change science as based on ”data fraud”……………………….

    ”WeatherAction defends evidence-based science and policy making as the ONLY science. WeatherAction completely supports campaigns for GeoEthical accountability and CLEXIT – Exit from UN Climate Change Deals and against data fraud and political manipulation of data and so-called scientific claims now dominating climate and environmental sciences. Evidence shows that man-made climate change does not exist and the arguments for it are not based on science but on data fraud and a conspiracy theory of nature. (see “Why the CO2 ‘theory’ fails “, below)”

    http://www.weatheraction.com/

    1. What a hard-to -navigate website! That page was so busy I couldn’t find the bit you mentioned above.

    2. Piers has always been clear about the fraud just as his brother has always been a Jew hater. Presumably they talk occasionally but I’m not sure that Jeremy would understand the science. The physics of Co2 would be too taxing despite its nice simplicity. The idea that tiny amounts of this essential gas should so heat the world that life is threatened is preposterous and cannot sustain itself for much longer.

      1. Anyone who goes to a place like Morocco and doesn’t expect to see these kind of things is dumb beyond belief…

          1. I know – I lived there for a couple of years. There were/are? some horrible Chinese practices with regard to animals. These were in theory outlawed under the British. One particularly dreadful one involved a table with a circular hole cut in the middle of it. And a monkey.

            I won’t continue, but those of you who know, know what I mean.

          2. Ah! Live monkey brains!
            Another was Eat Three Squeals. Live newborn rats that squealed when picked up with the chopsticks, again when dipped in the sauce and lastly when eaten.

          5. The monkey brain of Hong Kong. I didn’t want to be ghoulish but one big part of the world (on which HK was just a pimple) has some inhuman ways of treating animals. And humans, come to that.

    2. The chickens would be terrified with all that screetching. No wonder we Brits are hated in some countries

  68. We have become a Nation divided as never before, father and mothers against their children , brother and sisters against brothers and sisters , old friends at daggers drawn and all this down to a fiercely held belief by one section of the community that an unelected and uninvited overseas power should have dominion over our laws and lifestyles, any deviation from this mindset will see you publicly denounced and eviscerated.

    At least I think this is what my imaginary Tudor ancestor Artemus Beastly would have cried from the stake as the raging catholic mob clamoured to immolate him.

    1. Its all the left wing nonsence that people have been brainwashed in. just look at our schools and civil service.

      1. My youngest Daughter’s partner is a University Lecturer in Computers and Programming etc and is a very clever and thoroughly decent bod but any discussion of politics with him or his parents is utterly out of the question, in my opinion they’re not just blinkered but blindfolded and ear plugged with leftwing ideology

    2. More likely to be the Puritans in the seventeenth century, I would have thought. Although, in those days, Parliament was on the side of the people against foreign monarchs.

  69. Afternoon, all. Those protesting in the banner photograph wouldn’t know democracy if it smacked them in the face.

  70. After a fraught day – printer ishoos – and then the olive oil bottle (it is AMAZING just how far a pint of oil can travel in a small room…) I have returned from the beach after a third swim and am about to have a glass of anaesthetic, followed by signing off.

    Italy tomorrow – Ventimiglia market; cappuccino at the Café Puzzle; then hooch and coffee shopping- then beach.

    A demain, I hope.

      2. Considerably more than it would if bought in the EU parliament buildings. It would be extremely cheap if bought in the EU parliament buildings.

    2. Only two swims for me today.
      2km before lunch, 2.4km before supper.
      And no need to oil the joints.
      The glass of wine tastes better after the evening session in the pool.

        1. But I suspect that you could easily out-walk me on a hike nowadays.

          Certainly if it involved the number of steps you have to take down to the beach each time!

    3. Lucky you. Have a great time. Fantastic market. When you get back make sure you throw a pound of salt on the floor. Don’t want you slipping up and over. You’re bad enough with ladders. :o(

  72. Hear this and hold your breath

    Moh has just come back after giving the dogs a nice run, and he met a local woman who is a teacher .. She told Moh that all teachers have been instructed by a EU directive to display EU flags in school class rooms … Have any of you heard this ?

        1. Very true. It is the sort of thing they would want. Along with an oath of allegiance and the singing of the Ode to Joy.

          3. Indeel!

            The Yodel to Deep Joy, by Luddite von Bakehovis, all warbly in the throakus and resoundit to the welkinloder, accompanage by the soary tones of the cat gut’n’scrapey in the orchestrale, twangy in the bassmold and the trickily how of keys huffalo-dowder on the pianole or orgale, is gladmost on the eardrobes and upliftit the spirries of Euroloppers there.

            Oh yes!

        1. We used not to have a “tradition” of wanqueurs politicians standing in front of flags variés.

      1. “The British Ambassador delivered a note to the remainers requesting they withdraw their invasion of Parliament. I have to tell you that no such undertaking was received. Consequently, we are at war …” Eighty years ago tomorrow.

    1. The view from above shows about 2-300 people. Owen Jones will no doubt claim it was a million.

  75. Well, he’s played it quietly. He does not come over as a powerful man, though. Kicking the can down the road again………….
    I don’t think many people are interested in this more cops on the street thing and a fiver for each new-born bady. We’ve all heard that before.

        1. The opposite of a goodie 🙂 You wrote (and I copy and paste): “I don’t think many people are interested in this more cops on the street thing and a fiver for each new-born bady.” Just teasing.

  77. Manchester Extinction Rebellion activists glued to Barclays Bank

    Just leave them there but have a police line around them., Once they get hungry and thirsty and want the loo they will soon start squealing

    1. Just leave them, don’t bother with the police line. Modern version of the stocks, with luck.

        1. That’s OK, it would just make their need to go even stronger.

          Maybe someone should mix up a good strong epoxy mix and pour it over them where they are glued to the bank. A lot more difficult to deal with one it’s set good and hard.

          Alternatively, take the mafia approach – put their feet in buckets of quick set concrete.

        1. Get an air ambulance to turn up and have them shack their head and say the only way they can be freed is by amputating their lower arms

      1. I have to report that sadly the police could not unglued the Manchester protesters and over night they become extinct. They have though done there bit for reducing CO2 emissions

  78. Whatever happened to the time honoured system where PMs spoke to the nation via a televised film?

  80. To save you the bother of looking at the ad on this site which proclaims:

    “This is how savvy Brits over 50 are saving on funeral costs”

    The answer is they are simply refusing to die…..

      3. Oooh, a pale-faced slammer woman who has at last made it to a pier? She’s got the implements to make the kebab for tonight. Or is it a man – one never knows in those togs – jewellers and banks have been caught out guessing wrong.

    1. Traitors’ gate (as opposed to Traitors’ Gate) is opened every time MPs bother to turn up at Westminster.

  82. In someways I would like to see a General Election called just to see the faces of Hammond and Grieves when they are booted out of the party

    2. Listen to BJ here:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT-Cq7zVdpY

      If he changes his direction of travel i.e. he goes for May’s vassal state deal then he will be seen as May v2.0 and vilified by the people. A third shifty, duplicitous, lying and untrustworthy Tory PM will surely do for them for a generation, and maybe forever.

    1. Cultural differences? Nature versus nurture? I’m surprised that these barbarians haven’t been the subject of scientific investigations to find out what actually drives many of them to act in the manner they do.

  90. Breaking news

    Dilyn is to contest Corbyns seat for the Conservative Party. Bookies have Dilyn as odd on to take the seat

        1. Yo P-T

          I see you were on the menu at Chequers yesterday (after spicy lamb with curried vegetables). How was it for you?

    1. As men cannot give birth, that’s a woman. A mentally ill woman.
      If the state can remove the children of people simply because they’re UKIP voters, why are they encouraging the deranged circus freaks?

      2. Selfish git. Wants it both ways.

        We’re to be blamed (and probably reported for hate crime) if we call “him” a woman. Yet he keeps “his” female bits so that “he” can give birth. Selfish, lying, self-entitled, disgusting, sub-civilised hypocrite.

    5. If that transsexual really wanted to be “a man” s/he should have had her ovaries and womb removed. This smacks so much of wanting to have his/her cake and eating it. I’m a man but I want to keep my female bits – just in case.

      Sick. selfish and totally immoral.

      Edit: that poor little child – what a parentage to be burdened with. A child is not just for Christmas…

      1. It didn’t end well for Alison Lapper, a different case entirely, but producing a child for your own ends to prove you is woke is never a good idea.

        1. She reminds me of the poor girl in the brothel described in “Dandy in the Underworld” by Sebastian Horsley. A weird book by a weird man.

  93. Nicked

    We face an insane possibility that the governing party votes it has no
    confidence in itself but the Opposition vote that they do.

    1. So what is going to happen to that video? I’ll bet – nothing. But the police should be suspended and the minicab driver (or whatever he is) charged. Illegal immigrants should at least be taken into custody – it looks like they had a welcoming committee waiting for them…

  95. A bit speculative perhaps but the possibility of a coup in the Labour Party must also be considered. That will really make the journos heads’ spin.

    Momentum’s late conversion to the anti No Deal cause is exactly what the Conservatives need

    ROSS CLARK

    Boris’s wholehearted embrace of Brexit has forced the hard-Left to take a damaging stand

    How impressive to see all those thousands of people marching in ‘Stop the Coup’ protests on Saturday. And how encouraging for Boris Johnson that the Remain campaign seems to have fallen into the hands of Momentum and the Occupy movement.

    Until a few days ago the rearguard Remain campaign could pose as the sensible middle way between the ‘Far Right’ (i.e. Boris) and the Far Left. The cause of leaving the European Union, of course, has long had a natural home in the Conservative party, but no less was it an article of faith on the left of the Labour party. Jeremy Corbyn himself was a long-established proponent of Brexit until his half-hearted campaign for Remain in 2016. He seemed not-very-secretly chuffed with the result – to the point that he called for Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty to be enacted within days of the referendum result.

    It was with good reason that the Left supported Brexit. The EU, which Tony Benn, Michael Foot and many others saw as a conspiracy of bankers, stands as an insurmountable barrier towards the creation of socialism. It may appeal to Blairites by championing workers’ rights, but it is not fond of state intervention. It frowns upon government bailing out favoured industries and would block wholesale nationalisation.

    Yet there has been a dramatic shift in only a few days. The Labour Left seems to have thrown its weight wholly behind efforts to prevent Boris taking Britain out of the EU by 31 October, with or without a deal. Momentum organised “Stop the Coup” marches, attended by the usual rabble-rousers of the Far Left, including Paul Mason and Owen Jones, who told the assembled masses “Are we going to stop our unelected Prime Minister trash our democracy like the Bullingdon Club would trash restaurants?” Corbyn himself addressed crowds in Glasgow.

    Where were all those captains of industry who drove the Remain campaign? Where were those nice sensible Conservatives like Michael Heseltine and Ken Clarke who have spent a lifetime as cheerleaders for the European cause? They haven’t gone away and they haven’t changed their minds, of course, yet for the moment at least they are being drowned out by the Far Left – the sorts who go around with banners reading “March. Strike. Occupy”.

    The question is: why has the Far Left come out so strongly against a no-deal Brexit when logic suggests that it ought to be overjoyed at the possibility? Jeremy Corbyn’s dream would surely be to have Boris take us out of the EU without a deal and then to win a general election. He would then be free to construct his socialist paradise without the EU to stop him – and without anyone being able to blame him for a no-deal Brexit.

    The answer can only be that Corbyn and the Far Left have been goaded into associating themselves with the Remain cause. Strictly, they are not supporting Remain – they are merely opposing the government’s prorogation of Parliament. But they have been pushed towards the Remain side because they cannot bringing themselves to be seen associating with what many now see as a Tory cause. Boris has raised the political temperature and in doing so forced the Corbynites to take the opposite side.

    This will suit the Prime Minister no end. It might make some Conservatives less keen to make a stand against prorogation now that the campaign to stop the suspension is seen to be in the hands of the Far Left. But more importantly, it will help taint Corbyn in the eyes of Labour’s many Leave voters. In 2017 Corbyn performed unexpectedly strongly in large part because of his ambiguity on Brexit. Leavers thought he was on their side because always had been an advocate of Leave and had committed the Labour party to carrying out the referendum result; but Remainers, too, thought Labour was on their side because so many of the parliamentary Labour party were strong advocates of Remain.

    If we have a general election in the next few months, however – an overwhelming possibility – Labour will not be able to appeal to both sides. Leave voters will enter the polling booths remembering how Corbyn and his cronies fronted the ‘Stop the Coup’ marches. The Labour movement has been driven to a much firmer position, opposing government efforts to ensure we leave the EU by 31 October.

    As far as many voters will be concerned there will be two main parties committed to representing the 52 per cent – the Conservatives and the Brexit party, who may in any case agree some sort of behind-the-scenes deal – while Labour and all others are fishing around for the votes of the 48 percent. General elections, obviously, are far more complicated than this, but it is a very good place for a Conservative campaign to start.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/02/momentums-late-conversion-anti-no-deal-cause-exactly-conservatives/

    1. Why do I get the impression Boris is toying with the Press and his opponents? Building the excitement up only to damp it down with a bucket of cold water.

        1. Well, William, let’s hope it works. I expect to see a very large cat jumping out of the bag to confound the Left, the BBC and the rest of the Remainiac MSM.

      1. There is so much we do not know. It was all kept secret for years and slowly released. The leftie media do not report it so we do not all start to understand just what went on, and just how good we were. Its like D day they only ever report the problems never the final outcomes..

        1. Look how long it took, before what happened at Bletchley Park was made public

          The same really with Porton Down

    3. My old Squadron, No 85 also flew Mosquitos out of a now defunct Banffshire airfield. I have to query drinking coffee at 35,000 feet in an non-compressurised, velver-lined bomb-bay, while wearing the necessary oxygen mask.

      1. It didn’t say they drank it, just that it was there 🙂 I thought they missed out the P bottle …

        1. I don’t know about 1943 but in our Canberras, P31s, there was a pee-tube with a nice chrome head into which to pee and it then went, via rubber tube to a large collecting bag.

          One of the lads on the Squadron ‘obtained’ one chrome head, rubber tube and collecting bag which he proudly installed in his Saab and bragged about the efficacy of its use on long autobahn trips and trips back to blighty – until one night, his car was broken into and, unbeknowst to him, a knot was tied in the tube.

          Talk about ‘back-flush’!

          1. Don’t know about bags. My uncle always swore blind that the tube on his Lancaster enabled him to pee on Germany.

    4. Re Niels Bohr, I have since been informed that he didn’t put his oxygen mask on and his pilot, realising what had happened, flew back at very low level.

  97. From the Daily Express:

    3pm update: Soubry hits out at general election speculation

    Anna Soubry tweeted: “Any MP who votes for a #GeneralElection is voting for #NoDeal #Brexit. The priority must be to pass legislation to stop no deal and that’s what MPs of all parties are determined to do. #CountryFirst.”

    She quit the Tories back in February and is now the leader of The Independent Group for Change.

    The fragrant Anna, running scared at the prospect of a snap election? Surely not! It goes without saying, her constituents will return her with a thumping majority ………….
    ;¬))

    1. Boris would be daft to call an election before we exit the EU with no strings attached. In that case the Brexit Party will split the Leave vote as he will not negotiate a deal with Nigel Farage. Boris is still under suspician by many Leavers as to his ability or desire to Leave with no .deal. He is still on probation.He should have a strong word with Bercow and make him understand that he has to be impartial and stick to the HoC protocols. He shoi;d ignore any meaningful votes for delaying Brexit and which demands that No Deal be taken off the table.

        1. There are still absolutely no reasons for voting Conservative.

          There are still absolutel no reasons for voting Labour.
          There are even less reasons for voting Lib-Dem
          And the Brexist Party is an illusion.
          Where do we go from here ?

    3. One day I want to have Anna Soubry in front of me and when she speaks, slapping her very, very hard, then gaffer taping her gob up.

  98. Night All

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  102. Corbyn is thinking of coming out of the closet but cannot make his mind up so may stay in it

    1. Which Closet

      I hate the UK
      I hate Jews (he has edged that way)
      I love the IRA
      I hate UK
      I will make Abbotopotamus Queen
      ISIS for ever
      Hamas is good
      I hate UK
      I would eat ‘Larry’

      1. Nice one, Belle. That is the current PC world thinking. We’re going to reach that camp around the fire stage purely by our ‘don’t burn oil and coal’ attitude. They scare me.

      2. A multi billionaire globalist investor became a multi trillionaire….. but everyone else starved and that led to WW3..

  103. BBC unravelling on their website …..

    18.15
    PM: ‘I will not ask Brussels for a delay’

    Mr Johnson continues: “I say, to show our friends in Brussels that we are untied in our purpose, MPs should vote with the government against
    Corbyn’s pointless delay.
    “I want everyone to know there are no circumstances under which I would ask Brussels for a delay.”

  104. Well the Conservative Rebels could be kicked out of the party tomorrow depending on what way thing go

  109. Good night all ..

    Politics eh.. sort of disrupts things , and they just don’t listen .

    Who the hell is dictating housing policy so that all the villages in this pretty area should become towns .. 470 homes threatened for here , another village five miles away , 500 new homes threatened , small village up the road 24 homes and so it goes on.

    Where are these people coming from and where are the jobs?

    The fields at the back of us have been harvested for the last time .. so we have been told .. There were tears in our eyes this evening at the meeting.

    Hey ho, who cares, the knee jerk reaction continues through out the country, I assumed the birthrate was falling . Small villages are being bullied by government . and councils .. I really despair.

    1. They do not think about schools, roads, doctor’s offices, hospitals etc. Just get the numbers up for new housing, worry about the rest ‘tomorrow’ Do not despair Maggie, think positively, as they say! Good night from across the pond.

    2. The rot set in with the reorganisation of the councils in 1974 by the Heath Government. They removed the distinction between the urban boroughs and the rural districts, forcing town and country to adopt town ways. We have been paying for it ever since, with the countryside effectively heavily subsidising social amenities in the towns and cities and getting precious little back except bad planning decisions and cutting back of our country communities.

      The only thing that tempers my anger against the 1974 “New Improved” reforms is that also in that year when Dorking Urban District Council merged with the Dorking & Horley Rural District Council and Leatherhead Urban District Council to become Mole Valley, the proposed demolition of most of historic Dorking in a comprehensive redevelopment scheme (that already pretty well trashed Leatherhead as well as Guildford and Horsham and made a new town of Crawley) was shelved, and the town itself has thrived as a pleasant oasis to the modernist blight of its neighbours. Rather than reorganisation though, it might have been because the Conservatives were thrown out in that year and replaced by Independents. Today it is run by Liberal Democrats.

      1974 is also the first year I was allowed to vote – I had those reforms foisted on me as a non-voting teenager, same as EEC membership, decimalisation, Beeching, comprehensive redevelopment and the ripping out of hedgerows in the name of “progress”.

    3. I think this is thanks to “A Shared Future” promoted by Davos and that we know who is behind it all.. and how.. and why.

  111. Here. is a radical idea.

    Have another ‘Brexit Vote’, but not by the normal ‘;hidden’ votes system

    Identity Cards for Personal and Postal Votes are needed to be able to have the ability to vote.
    The Right to Vote will only issued against a National Insurance Number and Tax Return

    On completion of the voting, how people voted is put onto a website, for all to read
    Editted bit and they can see how they, themselves, voted

    Sorry Mr Rashid…. your future looks dodgy

    1. I think you have got it wrong. If we are going to have an election, then ” if you can’t beat them, join them ” applies.
      The Conservatives should be working flat out producing as many phony postal votes as they think will be needed,
      in their own favour. What is so difficult about that ?

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