Monday 23 November: The green revolution is really a scheme to clear roads of private vehicles

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1. Good Morning Folks,

   Dry start here

   1. Bob morning, decent weather in Nairobi, for a change.

      1. Morning, AWK.
         Are you finished with rains?

         1. mng. Well the short rains are due in about 10 days, but the weather pattern here’s been all over the place since end of Feb

            1. I travelled to South Sudan for a few years for work as a Consulting Engineer, always during the dry season. One visit was just as the rains had stopped, and I was amazed at how much water there was – the whole country was flooded (I saw the point of the raised roads…) and the water was all flowing west, although I could have sworn that the land was flat. Beautiful flower, huge volumes of grass everywhere, it was gorgeous. Less attractive were the mosquitoes… and, where the water passed through a culvert and got all swooshy, there would be a ball of fish whirling round. Where did they come from? The fish would be attended by a bloke with a spear, trying to stab them, but failing.

            2. whereabouts? Equatorias or Bhar El Ghazals / Upper Nile?

            3. My business partner in Egypt is a Nubian whose village, close to Abu Simbel, is now deep under the waters of Lake Nasser, otherwise known as Lake Nuba, following the building of the Aswan High Dam in the 1960s. He told me that when he was a child they still had the annual flooding of the Nile. When the waters receded, many pools of water remained, some of them full of stranded fish. No need for a spear in those days, all you needed was two hands!

            4. My first thought was “Why not use a net and catch them all?” – but if they did that, there would be no fish left for tomorrow – and that would be a disaster. Likewise, there was no facility to store the fish netted today, so they’d all go bad. Short-term thinking – my bad :-((

            5. ‘Morning, Paul, I think those people out there know about fire so, why not smoke the fish to preserve them?

               Similarly all the ads for WaterAid assume that nobody knows about boiling water to rid it of the pests and make it drinkable.

            6. Squest interesting, I visited those all those ares in 1983, having earlier done the usual kibbutz gig.

   2. Good morning all.
      Pitch black outside but it looks dry up in Derbyshire.

2. It is becoming pretty obvious now that under the great reset there will be no free movement of people.

   1. We are not to be trusted with freedom any more.

      Yet another parallel with the green movement and islam. Christianity is essentially a religion where you make the decisions, which is why it must be subverted. Islam is submission to a detailed set of rules.

      1. agree first point. 2nd one the proviso is corporate oligarchs using religion as smokescreen, their only set of rules is command control purely for profit as they’ve dried, to the bones, the Western political model

         1. In order to understand the destruction of the West, you need to understand its core values. Too many people take Christian principles so much for granted that they believe they are somehow innate to all humans, and are in no danger of disappearing.
            Therefore, they don’t recognise the competing philosophies (islam, green paganism) that are threatening us.

            1. fair points when viewed in the round. The buried deep agenda is another variant of an Anglo-Saxon mercantile imperialism [economic colonialism] resonating both sides of the Atlantic.

               Religion’s still one of the tools used as the “face mask” and to be conveniently brought up as required. England used it in the Colonial era via missionaries, the real agenda was profit and benign peoples. The agenda is reshaping the “Western political model”, removal of obstructions. The drive in US being a prime one. UK end, it comes down to our history [civil war etc] and a model where the agreement is between the people and the sovereign.

               Attempts to control region in UK have come and gone, and other attempts will not gain traction in UK. Using the angle that Christianity being a relgion where you make decisions is one interpretation and convenient when used as a message. Elizabeth I restored England to Protestantism. Henry VIII did not choose to be bound over by the ruler of the papal state.

               It was all about Sovereign retaining power. Therein relgion will be used, as a convenient tool, by economic oligarchs to attempt to break the mould for their own interests. They might gain traction in the US, not in UK. Hence the convenient drive for restructed education in UK to attain compliance among youth, as well as immigrants crossing the channel. Religion’s being used as a tool to distract from the real agenda.

               Competing religious philosophies / doctrine is no more a threat than the fake C-19 model.

               On the positive side, appreciate your points, this exchange is the sort that gets blocked elsewhere

   2. I wonder if the timing is because George Soros wants to see the Great Reset happen in his own lifetime?

      1. PP mng. Partially, he’s now part of coordinating role, replacing Kissenger, but this rolls way back post end of Reagan era. With exception of Trump [which upset apple cart], this was planned ages ago [Rockefeller’s Lockstep etc].

         If HRC had won in 2016, as was planned, this would’ve already started. UK end, since the arrival of Bliar on the scene [and his early doors mtgs with Soros in NY in ’96] / Iraq and his fake Foundation emdedded in Rwanda / Cameron and Libya.

         Thereafter more prominence in Davos bring timeline forward. UK’s 2016 referendum, like Trump winning, threw spanner in works.

         Hence activating planned C-19 model for non existent virus all linked around US election / Brexit. All part of the “global gag rule” will come down to Wall St / BoE.

         Soros will end up with Arbeit macht frei on his tombstone

      2. His last chance.

         1. Send for Edward Fox (Laurence’s uncle!) – or rather the character he played in the filmed version of Freddie Forsyth’s novel, The Day of the Jackal.

   3. Or freedom of association.

   4. That’s the planned agenda except under imposed conditions. “Western” politicians all reading from the same “Davos script”

   5. Unless, of course, you’re from North Africa or the Middle East.

      1. that’s part of the agenda – create conflict / displace, place puppet in charge, control resources. Mutti and her open doors policy. Control conflict, control the debt. Forced didplacement N Africa / Middle East – hide behind context of religious discord.

         1. ‘Morning AWK, when are the peasants supposed to revolt? I was lying awake thinking about it in the wee small hours but we need a strong leader with a co-ordinated plan to effectively:

            Cut ALL power across the country,
            Disarm the police having recruited the armed forces and…

            …then storm Westminster with the stepladders and piano wire?

            My God, I wish I were younger.

            1. my guess anyone under age of 35 are too “conditioned, accepting that’s how it is”. Elder people who aren’t taught what to think, different ball gamee, hence being targetted. Recall reading about Norwegians use of paperclip in WWII? Like always it starts small and grows momentum. And I do see momentum from “not so young generation”

               If UK ends up with BRINO when people voted to leave [deals done afterwards not during], the genie will start to come out of the bottle. Police members have parents / realatives, reverse engineer forces locally. And demonstrate outside MPs’ constituency offices, make sure no appointments made or kept.

               Viz yr last point, I’ve often wondered how a full House of MPs would react face to face with ICF, Bushwackers, Headhunters?

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4. Good morning, all. Sharp frost.

5. UK should tilt foreign policy to Indo-Pacific region, report says. 23 November 2020.

   The report, prepared by a group of UK politicians for the right of centre thinktank Policy Exchange, and endorsed by the former Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe, represents a key shift in UK foreign policy thinking.

   The UK and the EU have agreed on the need for a new role for Britain dedicated to helping the countries of the Indo-Pacific area stand up to Beijing by upholding democracy, free trade supported by open seas and an uncensored internet.

   Morning everyone. Neo-Marxist Police State UK lectures totalitarian Communist China on Democracy. That should be good for a few laughs!

   https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/22/uk-should-tilt-foreign-policy-to-indo-pacific-region-report-says

6. Good morning, everyone.

   1. Good Morning Delboy

7. We keep hearing about the ‘four nations’ all of a sudden with the latest covid lockdowns, that hasn’t been a terminology commonly used for the UK until recently, well except for the rugby tournament.
   I just wonder who represents England in all of this?

   1. Soros Rules Britannia!

   2. 326730+ up ticks,
      B3,
      brussels.

8. Morning all

   SIR – B W Jervis (Letters, November 18) highlights the disparity between the expected demand for, and supply of, electricity – should every existing petrol or diesel vehicle be replaced by its electric equivalent – but does not reach the conclusion.

   The hidden aim of the Government, with encouragement from the green lobby, is to vastly reduce the number of vehicles on the roads, particularly those in private hands. It would be political suicide to state this openly, but the Government is fully aware of the electricity supply shortfall. This, together with the ability of “smart” meters to turn off consumers’ supplies, is the means by which vehicle reduction will be achieved.

   Keith Whittaker

   Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire

   SIR – Gi Fernando (Letters, November 18) is being disingenuous in referring to the ratio of charging stations to cars: we will need thousands more of them, as a petrol or diesel car can take on 400 miles worth of energy in two or three minutes, whereas an electric vehicle will have to occupy a charging point for several hours.

   The day when an electric car can take on a charge in that time, either by an accelerated technique or by battery exchange, is the day I would consider an electric vehicle as anything more than a city runabout.

   Ken Nesbitt

   Ramsey, Isle of Man

   1. Rab C sorry, Ken] Nesbitt makes a valid point, for the Isle of Man

   2. If only I could be an engineering entrepreneur!

      I would design a chassis with space in the sill for eight sliding standard battery packs with terminals in the spine. These would be connected through individual optimiser voltage regulators, so that the failure of one pack would not disable the others. Each vehicle would be supplied with eight spares, which would be charged and stored offline in the garage and easily swapped over at any time, as you would change the battery on a power drill.

      The chassis unit would have to be waterproofed, so that driving through a ford would not affect it, and each unit would need to be lockable with a key.

      Crucially, the batteries would need to be standardised and brought down in price. Standardisation should bring in economies of scale and mass production. The raw materials would also need to be sustainable. The Li-ion current technology will not do, since the sources of Lithium and rare earths are limited. Promising is the use of graphene, which uses carbon, an abundant material. Graphene batteries currently have a very short shelf-life, requiring constant recharging which is an inefficient use of energy.

      Clearly, the technology is not quite there, and it is not something that could be developed in Britain – the financial services industry would bankrupt any enterprise in order to meet the bosses’ quarterly bonus target, leaving anyone doing the work without a home. Also the act of setting up a business demands so many hoops to jump through, again to meet remuneration targets for consultants with “business” contacts that matter, that life is too short for the budding inventor to be made to suffer for their art.

      Of course the tricks employed to make millions in the City of London would push the graft onto the entrepreneur, who would then face huge fee rises just at the point between production and sale when they are most vulnerable. It is then bought up as bankrupt stock and sold on to the Americans or the Chinese, oven-ready, and the proceeds of the quick return sent on to the Cayman Islands to avoid any cut on this activity being claimed by the taxpayer, but of course the Government statistics would look good, which is all that matters for the PR industry. Win, win!

      Maybe the Germans could do it better?

      1. Batteries are so last year, Jeremy – and good morning, BTW!
         The latest (?) idea is to use carbon nanotubes to form giant capacitors (with a +ve charge on one face and a -ve charge on the other).
         These will charge in a flash (geddit?) and hold plenty of charge, as well as not degrading with time. They are also quite light in weight.
         I’d hate to short-circuit one of them, though.

         1. I do remember, Paul, when in basic training to become an Air Radar Mechanic in the Royal Air Force, there would be boxes of capacitors – the big grey (electrolytic, I think) ones were perfect for charging up with a wee megger and then returning them to the box, waiting and watching for someone to pick it up and get a helluva belt! What larks.

         2. What happens when you short a big capacitor

            https://youtu.be/0-HYPdh744M

   3. All the more reason, Mr Wickater (© Charlie Drake) not to have a smart meter.

9. SIR – You report that the rush to electrify rail “risks new diesel fiasco” (November 12), but diesel had nothing to do with the rail fiasco of the Fifties.

   Then, the recently nationalised British Railways built about 2,000 steam locomotives (designed pre-nationalisation), half of which were new “standard express” type.

   BR was then made to purchase thousands of diesels from private builders to keep people happy with the 1955 modernisation scheme. It also continued to build steam locomotives, many of which outlived the diesels.

   David Pearson

   Haworth, Yorkshire

   1. Mr Pearson is confused. The article to which he refers discusses the diesel car fiasco.

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/11/11/ongoing-electrification-railways-could-become-another-buy-diesel/

      There was a diesel fiasco on the railway in the 50s and 60s. Without a programme of prototyping and trials, BR bought hundreds of locos ‘off the shelf’ from manufacturers that had little or no experience of railway work. Many of them were hopelessly unreliable. The work for which they were intended disappeared with the rapid contraction of the network in the 1960s. The regions were allowed to ‘do their own thing’, so BR ended up with many classes of locos with differing equipment rather then a small number of classes of standard types.

      Mass withdrawals of non-standard and underpowered locos took place in the late 50s and early 60s. Some the units hadn’t had 10 years employment. The capital write-off was enormous.

      1. I would say that the whole thing was a programme of trials, but at the taxpayers’ rather than the manufacturers’ expense.

         It’s ironic that many of the first-generation diesel locos that have survived are now valued for their ‘grandfather’ rights regarding engine emissions and some have even been bought out of preservation because they are cheaper than new builds!

   2. David Pearson – have you any idea of the effort required, and thus the cost, in running steam locos? The manpower, the turnround times, the time spent in getting up steam, watering, coaling, firing, removing ash, boiler washing, lubricating, adjusting, attending to steam leaks, recertifyng boilers…? No? Thought not.

      1. Morning Obs, that’s probably why many outlived the diesels, the steam locomotives spent most of their time being prepared to run, not actually out on the tracks

      2. Just think of all the railway union members that that would employ – Labour’s answer to unemployment.

         1. Ah, but they’d have to get their hands dirty, and that would never do.

         2. They only just got rid of the fireman in a loco cab – or Second Man, I think it was called.

10. Morning again

    SIR – It is time for an independent inquiry into the wilful obstruction of government policy by civil servants. Priti Patel has every right to call the head of department to account when little or no progress is being made.

    Peter Wilcox

    Oxted, Surrey

    1. SIR – It isn’t difficult to imagine the problems and resentment white male senior civil servants might have taking orders from a female minister of colour. There may well be another side to the Home Secretary’s bullying story.

       David Kidd

       Petersfield, Hampshire

       1. If they refuse to take direction from their Minister, they must resign with immediate effect – or be fired. It really is that simple.

          1. Unless those instructions are illegal.

             They should kick back, but if the minister persists they should resign.
             In my view they should then claim constructive dismissal.
             “I was only following orders” no longer washes.

             To take an improbable example, if a Home Secretary ordered the sinking of refugee boats the instant they entered British Waters the civil servant would be correct to refuse.

             1. mng sosraboc. Civil Servant couldn’t refuse if refugee boats were deemed a threat to National Security. If so, this would have been cleared in Cobra mtg

                Minister is a political appointee and part of the system. Civil Servants are [or in reality, were] the ones controlling the system. Any clash between Minister and covil servants normally means reposting for civil servant, to a crap post with no additional allowances.

                As Eipdermold stated above there may well be [most likely is] another side to the story. That won’t get released. But it proves ongoing internal problems are never solved on both sides of the coin

             2. I guess you missed the word “illegal”.

             3. not at all, none are illegal under current auspices. Otherwise, none would attempt the crossing

             4. They are acting illegally as soon as they enter UK jurisdiction, in this case when they pass into UK waters.

             5. bk to first point of entry [Italy, Greece, etc]. To solve it’s not an issue. No correct paperwork, no lawyer, no human rights, nothing, back on next boat.

             6. Solving the problem is an issue. “Back on the next boat” is nothing but a sound bite. Back to where and would “where” take them if they have no papers?

             7. Easy answer, Enri, if they have no papers and refuse to identify their nationality, let it be known that lack of national identity will be resolved by dropping them, in their underpants, on a deserted beach in Somalia at the dead of night. Problem solved.

             8. I am sure that your answer was tongue in cheek but, if it wasn’t, then bear in mind that a transport aircraft dropping illegals on a deserted beach in Somalia would be an act of war and, lightweight though Somali air defences are, they wouldn’t have much difficulty in defending against it.

             9. Actually, Enri, I wasn’t thinking of an aircraft, more of a canoe dropped from the RN skiff.

             10. Enri aftn, the problem [self created] is complete lack of political will. Return them to their departure point [or preferably the sea lanes in the channel]. Let France / EU sort out reverse engineering their own creation. Australia managed it. right now, they’re merely pawns in a bigger game

             11. There are substantial legal and geographical differences between what Australia and the UK can do. Illegal boat people to Australia have to travel many hundreds of miles across open ocean to get to Australia. Their boats are not small and travel slowly. Thus they can be detected, intercepted and turned back well before they get anywhere near land. Illegal boat people to the UK typically travel in small, fast, low-observable boats across a very short distance through seas crowded with commercial and pleasure traffic. They are often not detected until they are in UK territorial waters and turning them back would be illegal (sorry, but that is the case!).

             12. Enri mng, sorry time zone difference so only just got yr msg.

                 Currently turning boats back falls under EU law, and interpretation / application of that makes it “illegal”. It doesn’t prevent UK sending people back if they don’t have any or, correct paperwork. EU law designates point of origin of entry

             13. That’s correct but the problem is:
                 1. Where do you send them back to when they are likely to say whatever they think is best? Unless it can be proved that they set sail from France, or Belgium or wherever, those countries are unlikely to accept them back. If they are illegal arriving here, they are going to be equally illegal arriving back to those countries.
                 2. Sending them back to their country of origin is going to be equally difficult because of not being able to prove where this actually was.

                 I am with you in terms for opposition to illegal migrants but think that the solution is not as easy as one thinks.

                 You say that you are in a different time zone. Purely for nosiness, where is that?

             14. Agreed.

                 As an aside.
                 If a 90% vaccine is “good enough” then a DNA test that gives possibly a 99% answer to where the immigrants originate, it should be plenty good enough to send them back to a specific country, irrespective of where they claim to have originated/ be fleeing from..

             15. I doubt that DNA can give the sort of granularity that your proposal would need. Most of the countries where most of the illegals come from have very porous land borders where people of one ethnicity live on both sides. How do you distinguish between a Kurd from Iraq and a Kurd from Turkey, or between someone of one of the nomadic ethnic groups that populate Afghanistan and someone from the same ethnic group in Pakistan?

             16. Do you know something? Quite frankly I don’t care.

                 Give the illegal immigrant the choice. It would certainly be more than close enough. A Kurd from Turkey can choose Turkey and a Kurd from Iraq could choose Iraq. Ditto Pakistan and Afghanistan.

                 Why the Hell should any country be forced to accept what are clearly economic migrants rather than genuine Asylum seekers?

                 They also have the option that they could go back to whence they came without abusing the unwilling recipient country and try to emigrate using the proper channels.

             17. Your solution requires consent by the country the immigrant, or you, have chosen. What do you do it, say, Turkey or Iraq refuse to accept the immigrant, as they probably would do?

             18. And as a secondary thought:
                 Send them back to the highest bidder.

                 If Trudeau or Merkel wants them so be it, if Assad or Erdogan wants them more let them pay.

             19. I doubt that any of them want these people – in most cases, they are actively working to get rid of them in the first place.

             20. Back to parachutes then.
                 Just because Pigshitistan doesn’t want them, why should anywhere else have to take them?

             21. Give them a parachute.

                 But more seriously:

                 You might find that in many of these cases that the country would be delighted to have them.

                 By doing next to nothing, all that is happening is that the numbers are increasing.

                 Wokes in Australia hate it, but to all intents and purposes the Australians have stopped the flood.

             22. The argument about what to do with conscientious objectors has been going on for a century.

                 In WW1, we gave them a white feather and pushed them back into the trenches or shot them for desertion.

                 Learning the lessons from that morality and where it led, after WW2, we were rather more gracious to objectors and eliminated the “I was only following orders” defence during war crimes trials after the war.

                 Nevertheless, the Civil Service is expected to carry out the whims and wishes of the Minister, however absurd, and to produce ways of implementation to the best of their ability, knowing full well that the opposite might have to be done after a change of Minister or Government. In return, the Civil Service is protected from repercussion and the Minister bears responsibility for any consequences, even though the Minister is protected by parliamentary immunity, so nobody is actually accountable, except during the sham of a general election.

                 What I see in Priti Patel, is a cross and bossy little woman, who is public-spirited enough to care and want to do something about it, using force of personality, which is about the only weapon a politician can rely on.

             23. I agree re Patel’s problems but the civil servants advise the minister and are under an obligation to tell the minister if they are acting illegally or even ultra vires.

                 Firing CS’s for doing their jobs is wrong.
                 By all means fire them for obstructing valid instructions or for being delibetrately obstructive, but allowing ministers to ride roughshod over the law is a route to anarchy.

                 In fact it is just the route that is being followed over Covid/lockdowns and vaccinations.

                 It might just turn out that the CS and the judiciary are our last line of defence against what is happening under our noses.

             24. You have a point there.

                 I have argued for some time that the core of our national institutions should be free of party, or even individual politics, and that this forms the core of our constitutional monarchy that has made the UK such a wonderful place to live, especially compared with other regimes abroad.

                 We start with the monarchy itself, the military and the judiciary. These remain as I have described, although Blair’s creation of a politicised Supreme Court has already frayed the edges of the legal structure.

                 I would go further. The House of Lords should be cleared of all party affiliation. The act of ennoblement disqualifies any further involvement with the civil political machinations of common folk. Anyone found getting the Upper House involved in this should be refused further engagement with the House of Lords.

                 Next off is the Church of England. Their remit is to further the spiritual welfare of the nation. Culture and morale is very much part of the job, and goes way beyond the Gospel. To be an established religion requires devotion to the civil needs as much as the religious ones. I have often said that the only point of religion, any religion, is enhance one’s capacity to love and to be loved. This is certainly true in a secular, civil setting too. I wish they would get on with it, rather than constantly handwringing about abuse, past and present.

                 There are the quasi-national bodies such as the BBC and the National Trust, which should also be free of politics on the same basis. Some charities require political engagement in order to function. These are the pressure groups, such as Greenpeace, the Countryside Alliance, the Federation of British Industry, the trade unions and many others, who do a vital role in supporting civil democracy and keeping it informed and active.

                 We need to watch mission creep like a hawk though, and not allow any of them to subvert democracy itself, because it furthers their cause. I have reserved particular criticism of the IHRA and its ally the EHRC for their activities in destroying the political reputation of the former Leader of the Opposition, and condemn the current Labour Leader in particular, because as a senior member of the legal profession, he ought to know better.

             25. ‘Morning, Sos, given the current Government’s inability to rule except by diktat, Anarchy looks like a viable option.

             26. Be careful what s wished for.

       2. Two BTL Comments:-

          G Waltham
          23 Nov 2020 12:17AM
          David Kidd writes, ‘ It isn’t difficult to imagine the problems and resentment white male senior civil servants might have taking orders from a female minister of colour.’

          How amusing to see Tories play the ‘race card’ when it suits them. A bully is a bully, whatever race.
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          Robert Spowart
          23 Nov 2020 9:32AM
          @G Waltham I doubt if her race or, for that matter, her sex play a major part in the furore.

          The major bone of contention appears to be her desire that the Civil Servants in her department actually do the job that they are paid to do and their unwillingness to do so.

          One only has to look at the number of times Ministers, not just in the Home Office but other departments, have been shafted by being fed the wrong information or by mysterious leaks appearing in the press.

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          1. The one time I felt sorry for Amber Rudd; either deliberately or through sheer ineptitude, her snivel serpents dropped her in it to cause the Windrush farrago.
             How sad that an unremarkable little English river has been co-opted into the battle for the soul of this country.

    2. My take on the Home Office ishoo is that there re so many slammers on the staff, they will passively do everything they can to aid the invasion of their co-slammers.

       1. Morning Bill

          Hindu v Muslims?

          1. The Hindus can be as bad as the muzzies, it seems. I’m currently reading a book about the Middle East before the Great War. The terrorist organisation that was assassinating police officers and officials in India in the cause of freedom was run by a Hindu and the adherents were Hindus, too. It’s a bit of an eye-opener. The Kaiser stirred up the muzzies to a world-wide jihad to damage the British (quelle surprise).

11. SNP accused of misleading public with use of fake cafe in Covid campaign. 23 november 2020.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a30ad4170200bdb1f01c8b323322c82e447345f7d1a5cf5a662b3ae8a3e4c80a.jpg

    .Staring directly into the camera, a cafe owner issues a passionate plea to the public to strictly follow coronavirus rules to help “the people who work at businesses like mine”.

    The advertisement, which has run extensively on TV, uses an actress to play the part of the owner of the ‘Hilltop Cafe’.

    In fact, no such business exists, with Cafe Tartine in Leith, around the corner from a major Scottish Government office building in Edinburgh, rebranded for the purposes of the advert.

    The mind boggles. A production worthy of the Soviet Union at its peak!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/11/22/snp-accused-misleading-public-use-fake-cafe-covid-campaign/

    1. Fake news from a political party? Wow – that’s a first…{:¬))

       1. Open goal Bill, from Fakenham!?

12. SIR – Boris Johnson must ignore Tony Blair and David Cameron, who warn against proposed cuts to the foreign aid budget (report, November 21).

    It is ridiculous to designate a fixed per cent of GDP every year, regardless of need, when jobs and businesses are struggling under the Covid restrictions. Countries such as India that have space programmes should be aiding their own poor. Donations should be as needed, not mandated.

    Trevor Norris

    Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire

    SIR – Since the independence era, much British aid to the developing world has been in handouts, which – being misapplied, misappropriated or perpetuating a dependency mentality – often do more harm than good.

    Experience across Africa over the past 60 years clearly shows that what is wanted and needed are skills and help that allow the continent to help itself. Until its tragic demise 10 years ago, these were provided by the retired volunteers of the British Executive Service Overseas, the much-missed and incredibly effective charity that was originally set up by the Ministry of Overseas Development, the Institute of Directors and the Confederation of British Industry. It should be revived as matter of urgency.

    Jonathan Lawley

    Formerly of Her Majesty’s Overseas Civil Service and Senior Adviser to the Business Council for Africa

    Stowmarket, Suffolk

    1. Epidermoind thanks.

       Nice of Jonathan Lawley [is he married to Sue?] to admit being part of the perennial problem. If he’d have been able to manage “retired volunteers of the BESO” to actually do their job, there would be no dependency. Stating it should be revived as a matter of urgency means his pot for tin rattling’s empty.

       Or he’s just received his Dr’s note to attend the Euthanasia vaccine course?

       1. Ah, the fragrant and very capable Sue Lawley. Never was Desert Island Discs in safer hands (apart from Roy Plomley, of course).

          In answer to your question, she married twice, but not to a John.

          ‘Morning, AWK.

          1. aftn here now but usual e-gtgs

             1. ?? You’ve lost me, AWK…

             2. e-gtgs is online aka here viz gtgs, here in kenya now it’s 14.55

    2. If foreign aid is based on GDP then why not deduct the deficit from the total given out? I should imagine that the deficit will be there for very many years to come so foreign aid should cease until we are in credit.

       Mr Micawber has far too many reincarnations in politics. But sadly, unlike their prototype, they totally lack his charm.

    3. Several of the students on my MA course had been doing VSO (Voluntary Service Overseas), teaching etc.

13. Should we now refer to the UK as the Ten Nations as England doesn’t have an elected Parliament ?

    https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/695806211173657011/

    1. The English regions briefly had (unelected) assemblies. I once attended a meeting of the SE of England Assembly at a hotel in Gatwick Airport. It’s fair to say that all concerned were embarrassed by the futility of the occasion.

    2. 326730+ up ticks,
       Morning B3,
       The political badlands.

    3. Can we revert to the Saxon kingdoms?

       1. Funnily enough, elder son and I were discussing this the other day.
          We couldn’t remember if Mercia included Middlesex.

          1. Didn’t Middlesex get conquered by Mercia?

             1. Possibly. I suppose we look to the late A-S period when there were a handful of mega-kingdoms, rather than the earlier tribal regions.

             2. I agree, otherwise we may as well go right back to the pre-Roman invasion kingdoms.

             3. FYI, Anne & Cochrane:

                https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/42e14ff2d7fc26843c1cdcf4f723e0ef9b2e57d890a7de58b1c51222ff08ffc9.jpg

             4. Ta ever so.

14. SIR – Justin Welby is to take a break to focus on “study, prayer and reflection”. One wonders what he has been doing for the past nine months.

    Fiona Wild

    Cheltenham, Gloucester

    1. SIR – Is Justin Welby setting a good example to the nation? Most of the rest of us will be looking at next year as a period of sustained hard work to restore the nation’s finances, morale and welfare. Now hardly seems a good time to have a long holiday in France.

       Dr John R Drummond

       Cellardyke, Fife

       SIR – I thought the Archbishop had already been on a sabbatical, judging by his absence during this pandemic.

       Bill Todd

       Twickenham, Middlesex

       SIR – Is Justin Welby setting a good example to the nation? Most of the rest of us will be looking at next year as a period of sustained hard work to restore the nation’s finances, morale and welfare. Now hardly seems a good time to have a long holiday in France.

       Dr John R Drummond

       Cellardyke, Fife

       SIR – As an Anglican, I welcome the news that I am to have a break from the Archbishop of Canterbury.

       Mark Robbins

       Bruton, Somerset

       SIR – I see that extended sabbaticals for “spiritual renewal” are available.

       What a fine idea – can anyone apply?

       Bob Hart

       Newark, Nottinghamshire

       1. I didn’t think one was allowed to leave the country.

          1. That only applies to the plebs, Bill.

       2. Welby was an atheist plant by his fellow Old Etonian David Cameron.

    2. maybe he’s “transgendered” and given birth to another immaculate conception may answer Fiona Wild’s Q

15. A kitten surveys the Great Outdoors.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d8e65977c2d35663ec01c941b3aaf4016bbd1ce352b9b4a56e83867db5eaf44a.jpg

    The other one is busy trying to demolish the anti-cat barrier in the utility room!

    1. Good grief, Bill. You have a helicopter landing pad in your back garden?!?!? (Good morning, btw.)

       1. Good morning.

          That’s for the Satanic rituals.

          I’ll get me chalk.

          1. Where’s Dennis Wheatley when you need him?

16. Twelve arrested at ‘idiotic’ anti-lockdown protest in Basildon. 23 November 2020.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1330179563503153156

    Police were called to the unauthorised gathering Saturday afternoon, and video footage online shows police officers detaining a number of men who were seen to be breaking lockdown restrictions. In the video a number of protestors are wrestled to the ground before being put in handcuffs and then being lead away.

    Large groups of protestors marched around Basildon town centre with placards and were said to have been chanting ‘freedom’ as they took to the streets.

    Essex Police said seven fines were issued and a number of police officers reported being assaulted but their injuries were said to be minor..

    Yes I can see him hurting their fists as he batters them with his head!

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/anti-lockdown-protest-basildon-arrests-b1759951.html

    1. From paper set up by Johnson’s other half’s dad.

       Cllr Callaghan’s words of wisdom quote from his cupboard under the stairs “Police officers and their families have been put in totally avoidable
       danger thanks to the idiotic protestors taking to our streets and
       causing trouble today.”

       He must be on a good wedge for a Councillor if he can own all of Basildon’s roads. or is there a hidden message hinting at “Green Revolution”?

    2. Those high viz jackets don’t appear to have any officers numbers on them. And in the video the one punching ( conveniently with face covered and a baseball cap on ) appeared to be punching the back of the neck as the other officer held the protesters head forward. Would this be likely to cause spinal or spinal cord damage or even paralysis?

17. Trump dumps top lawyer!

    Apparently Sidney Powell was too loopy for the looney tune show head by Giuliani. I’m running out of popcorn. I’ll give this to Trump, he has given us more laughs than any US president I can remember!

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/23/trump-campaign-cuts-ties-with-attorney-sidney-powell-after-bizarre-election-claims

    1. Sidney Powell is funded by several persons and as such is not as constrained as the Trump team in terms of funding limits. In effect both Giuliani and Powell are on the same side.

       The Guardian is a poor source for truthful information, not dissimilar to the BBC.

       1. v true, and not being part of “Trump Legal Team” provides more latitude and focus beyond merely Rep Party funding to dig deep

18. Since the US election I’ve noticed that there appears to be a steep rise in anti Trump trolling on all platforms.
    Do they all work for GS I wonder?

    1. “Differing opinions are encouraged…”, apart from when someone criticises Trump when it becomes trolling! Perhaps you could provide some evidence that he won.

       1. Good morning Cochrane

          I am not an enthusiast for either Trump nor Biden but the imbalance in the MSM is completely absurd – 98% (at least) against Trump.

          Of course Bob 3 can provide no more evidence that Trump won than you can provide evidence that the whole process was completely fair and honest.

          1. I would lie to see Biden’s evidence that he, Biden, had won.

             1. he’ll accept he was told he did.

          2. It almost certainly wasn’t either fair or honest.

             The problem Trump has is that he loses because the lack of fairness, honesty and transparency isn’t suffient to get the Biden “victory” overturned, short of his being able to prove the voting machines having been tampered with to change votes or votes deliberately destroyed. He has to reverse millions.

             It’s a total foul up for America and I fear considerable civil unrest happening, stirred up by the likes of BLM and antifa, if Trump should be victorious. But worse still, if many of the more hare-brained Democrat law and order proposals are put into effect, there will be open season for criminals and open season for vigilantes.

             The archetypical lose lose..

             I recall a story from many years ago when a programmer was being recruited for the business.

             One chap claimed to have been ex-military/CIA and that he could write something he called ghost code that would be undetectable to audits and the market regulators, which in his view made him the perfect person for the job.

             He wasn’t hired, but I was always curious whether his claims were true. Stories about the voting machines make me wonder.

             1. Voting machines are are a classic case of being too clever by half.
                There are enough weaknesses in the pencil and paper model – particularly since postal voting has become more widespread – but remotely controlled machines open up a new can of toxic worms.

             2. Completely agree.

                How the Hell they were approved, unless there was ill-intent, is a mystery.

             3. KISS: Keep It Simple, Stupid.
                As nobody said to any US electoral authority.

          3. Morning Rastus, the thing is I’m not the one making accusations of foul play, so I don’t have to provide evidence of anything. The onus is on Trump. The US has a process for certifying results and that’s been followed and Biden has been declared the winner. That should be good enough for us all in the absence of any actual proof of cheating.

             1. aftn Cochrane, post lunch here. Agree you’re not making any accusations.

                Fristly, Trump raised this issue before voting started at his well attended rallies; The US process is now at the Supreme Court, however MSM wants to portray it. Democrats [read corporate oligarchs] are trying to stick to court at State / Federal level, which Trump nullified before the election placing onus on Supreme Court and ensuring his “republican nominee Amy Barrett” got top slot. The Supreme Court outweighs State level. Trump’s lawyers has all the evidence they collated and placed with Supreme Court.

                The onus will be on the Supreme Court whether they follow the Constitution and declare voting nullified or void c/o tampering or they ignore the Constitution declaring the oligarchs’ Demented Joe the winner. Either way it falls, there will be massive insurrections nationwide.

             2. aftn Cochrane, post lunch here. Agree you’re not making any accusations.

                Fristly, Trump raised this issue before voting started at his well attended rallies; The US process is now at the Supreme Court, however MSM wants to portray it. Democrats [read corporate oligarchs] are trying to stick to court at State / Federal level, which Trump nullified before the election placing onus on Supreme Court and ensuring his “republican nominee Amy Barrett” got top slot. The Supreme Court outweighs State level. Trump’s lawyers has all the evidence they collated and placed with Supreme Court.

                The onus will be on the Supreme Court whether they follow the Constitution and declare voting nullified or void c/o tampering or they ignore the Constitution declaring the oligarchs’ Demented Joe the winner. Either way it falls, there will be massive insurrections nationwide.

             3. There is proof of cheating.

                A Biden win is statistically impossible.

                Therefore Donald should not concede, but should remain in office for a further term.

    2. Yes. Soros has a finger in everything.

    3. you’re not far wrong Bob. All part of the “paid rhetoric”, and easy to spot. The amount of false flag posts I get citing “work from home for Google, earn US$1,500+ pcm”

       Add to that strands of ongoing update links to Windows 10 appear out of nowhere and for no reason.

       Have managed to filter all the above, but it slows speed a tad

       1. Better get me to Specsavers…Read that as “The amount of false flag posts I get citing “work from home for Google, earn US$1,500+ pcm porn“
          :-((
          Better get me to Specsavers!

          1. As using a VPN, I tell them Google’s not much cop in Pyongyang

       2. Better get me to Specsavers…Read that as “The amount of false flag posts I get citing “work from home for Google, earn US$1,500+ pcm porn“
          :-((
          Better get me to Specsavers!

19. 326730+ up ticks,
    Morning Each,
    People power in action,

    https://twitter.com/GerardBattenUK/status/1330795165792022528

20. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c292ca0212124aa1a0fd0845f800b87c33a7f3b89519c6c5bcd43d0646edb9ee.png My mother invariably made her Christmas puddings at this time of year; however, they were for next Christmas, not this one. Once they had been steamed, they were packed into a box under her bed and left to mature for a full 12-months. This was a long-held tradition with many families. Last year’s puddings were then removed on Christmas Eve and re-steamed the next day. The maturity left them with a depth of flavour unrivalled.

    I followed this age-old advice last year and I shall enjoy my 12-month old pudding this Christmas.

    1. One of the reason why I buy my ready made puddings in the post-Christmas flog off.
       Quite often they’ll sit in the pantry for a couple of years before I get round to using them!

    2. One of the reason why I buy my ready made puddings in the post-Christmas flog off.
       Quite often they’ll sit in the pantry for a couple of years before I get round to using them!

    3. It works with shop-bought puddings too, Grizz.

    4. Stir up Sunday – the collect that encourages us to “stir up” was taken as the cue to get stirring the pudding 🙂

       1. Did you make a wish while stirring?

          1. Come now, Grizz, I am NOT a cook! I have never made a Christmas pud in my life. My mother was an even worse cook than I am (I reckon I got her awful cooking genes) and didn’t make puddings, either.

             1. 😉

             2. Well, Conners, I sat on a horse once.

                That horse knew who was the boss! and it wasn’t the rider!

21. ‘Morning All

    “You couldn’t make it up files” gets an outing

    https://twitter.com/tim_hidden/status/1330784602705674241?s=20
    A 70.4% effective vaccine rising to maybe 90% on second dose for a disease that’s 99.5%plus non fatal for those under 70…………..
    Fuckwits,fuckwits everywhere

    1. Astra Zeneca have no incentive to test a vaccine from which they are indemnified by the ignorant oaf Johnson should it kill everyone subjected to it.

       Hancock has suggested that such vaccines will be compulsory and that we would have to carry a certificate and have boosters to maintain immunity. We have an immune system. The oligarchs wish to mess with our immune system and leave us reliant on Gates’ vaccines.

       That would be illegal and a breach of our rights. It follows that any doctor or nurse administering these vaccines would be acting against their oath.

22. This just in from Paul Joseph Watson:

    https://youtu.be/oQxaGm7eK4U

23. Interesting, couldn’t find it on usual MSM sources, doesn;t appear to be widely reported c/o Trump to G20 Leaders:
    “The Paris accord was not designed to save the environment, it was designed to kill the American economy. I refuse to surrender millions of American jobs and send trillions of American dollars to the world’s worst polluters and environmental offenders..”

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1330633187513470976

    1. actually reported on both sides of the media on this side of the Atlantic.

       Trump is wrong, it wasn’t designed to kill the US economy, it kills any advanced oil based economy. He could equally have been speaking for Canada there except
       for some reason, pretendy PM is fully behind the accord that is already seriously harming our industries.

       1. Trump could well be right.

          So many politicians in favour of the Paris accord have an almost visceral hatred of America, so the principal objective might well be the American economy; everything else is acceptable collateral damage to meet that objective.

24. Headline April 2021:

    “Mystery of millions dead after covid vaccination”

    You read it here first.

    1. Then – “More replacements being brought in to fill the empty houses.”

    2. Interesting….! A comment from the Daily Mail “It won’t stop you getting covid, but it may reduce less severe symptoms and duration. And they don’t mention the last time they tried this in 2012, all the animals died when exposed to the wild virus. They also don’t mention how many were in the trial group and how many in the placebo group, when comparing positive tests after vaccination.

       Good morning, Bill.

    3. Have they finally planned to bin the Eurovision Song Contest?

       1. Not all bad news then.

25. I completed the Law Commission’s consultation on hate crime yesterday – https://consult.justice.gov.uk/law-commission/hate-crime/ – it will close on 24 December. Not sure how much notice they take of personal contributions but if enough people responded it might make them think twice.

    1. Hate crimes appear to be one-sided in the eyes of the law. Why doesn’t our govt think that Muslim grooming gangs attacking white English girls is a “Hate Crime” – if it was reversed with muslim girls being raped then there would be hell going off.

       1. 326730+ up ticks,
          Afternoon W,
          A successful lab/lib/con coalition party submissive,appeasing umbrella campaign is operating.

    2. thank you for this and the link. I noticed the first downlaod [summary] link’s c/o Amazonnews. 1st mental red flag, let me delve through. Thanks again

       1. America is seeking clearance to launch drone strikes against Islamic militants operating in Kenya, according to Pentagon sources, as part of efforts to counter jihadists’ growing reach into Africa.

          While US forces have used drones against targets in Somalia for several years, launched from a base in Djibouti, the plan to extend operations to Kenya reflects the growing threat from Islamic extremists.

          The plan would involve both responding to attacks by militants and launching pre-emptive strikes against targets identified by US intelligence.

          https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/us-seeks-right-to-bomb-kenya-as-terrorists-spread-xbrm2fpkk

          1. TB afternoon, thanks for link, where do the Times dig this crap up from? Margot Kiser should know better.

             This was flagged up in Oct by Washington Post https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/10/01/us-may-be-readying-drone-strikes-kenya-that-might-increase-violence/ there’s no islamic militants in Kenya, another septic false flag desperate to create enemies. US have their drone base near Lamu [Manda Bay] which got hit in January [essentially by local suppliers who never got 6 mths outstanding bills paid for goods / services provided to US mil contractors].

             With Kenya moving away from the proposed, lopsided in US favour, US-Kenya Free Trade agreement, authorising drone strikes from Camp Lemonier on Kenya [under Demented Joe not Trump] would prove 3 things: 1: Zero US Intelligence; 2: no islamic militants 3: US wants to seek more regional destabilisation on countries not dancing to US tune [as is what’s occuring now between Ethiopia and Tigray / Mozambique re LNG] in view of US attempts to try and stop BRICs Belt and Road Initiative [aka money on the table] via their military instruments.

             The Times would do well to do their basic research and understand al Shabaab simply don’t have the resources or manpower or are near Kenya border given Kenya’s KDF are running operation Linda Nchi [buffer zone between Kenya and Somalia]. Which Margot Kiser should know.

             The Times [and Washington Post] would do well and checked the real meaning of the 5th point of the Somali star, Colonial times in Kenya re the Shiftas and reported accordingly the underlying causes.

             Don’t expect Margot Kiser to, she was wrong about Manda Bay, wrong about Dusalit hotel, wrong about Westgate.

             1. Thankyou for clarifying those points.

                It is easy enough to rattle off a report from the comfort of one’s cosy zone in the UK.
                Journos do create alot of disquiet ,don’t they .

             2. TB morning, sorry time zone difference [Kenya] meant I only got your feedback this am

                Agree totally with yr points. Given everyone on here knows “3rd party eyes” are supposedly monitoring, they’ll probably let it ride. If such responses were sent to the Times, it’s dubious whether they’d upload / print.

                I discussed this issue with some of the elders early last night, and they were somewhat annoyed such false info is floated. Given Margot’s weak reputation here, continuing floating such info will mean she’s on some form of watch list here, despite, what everyone [in Nairobi] knows, she’s nothing more than a pair of eyes and ears for Netanyahu and Israeli interests here. If continuing to air such false info, she’ll be aware Kenyan agencies are rather adept too creating disquiet for her.

                Either way, thanks again for upload, without it, I’d never be aware.

                I missed UK’s No.1 Head Pigeon waxing lyrical last night [too late], so see what latest waffle he spouted last night.

                Have a good one

    3. I looked at it but baulked at having to enter my personal details.

       1. I put in a fictitious name and other details but eventually scrapped it as it was too laborious and I didn’t understand some of the questions

          1. Obfuscation, eh? Sir Humphrey would be proud.

             ‘Morning, Alec.

             1. Morning Hugh fank u

          2. I cheated somewhat in that for question one I wrote – everyone was entitled to freedom of expression unless there was incitement to violence and/or to commit a crime in which case there were already enough laws in place without needing any further legislation. For all the other questions I wrote ‘see my response to question one’ except for the question ‘Should we appoint a Hate Crime Commissioner?’ to which I responded ‘Absolutely not’.

             1. Unless there was incitement to violence? – – video was took years ago of a certain culture marching with banners saying ” all infidels should be beheaded/slaughtered” – – nothing done.

             2. Wish I’d have thought of that

          3. Great sentence, did you nick it from Matthew Halfcock’s opening line in his autobiography on being appointed Minister for Health?

             1. :o)

26. Time too chill…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj7miUnCojQ

27. “The Treasury’s haul of income tax, National Insurance and VAT has plunged due to lockdown.

    Tax revenues in the first seven months of the current fiscal year, from April to October fell by £70.6 billion to the exchequer.

    As the economy was flung into the deep freeze, it was inevitable the Treasury would miss billions in tax.

    At the same time, Government spending soared by 28.5 per cent (£123.5 billion) as costs of dealing with the virus mounted.

    With schools, shops, offices and factories shut for weeks, VAT receipts fell by £38.7 billion. Fuel duties were down by £4.2 billion.

    As companies made smaller profits — or ran up a loss — corporation tax receipts plunged by £11.9 billion.

    As pay packets shrank, so did income tax revenues, by £11 billion. No-one enjoys handing money to HMRC. But a tax shortfall of this magnitude is a problem, as it could jeopardise funding essential public services.”

    I’m doing my bit by avoiding Vatable goods as much as possible. By making shopping a joyless, Orwellian chore, the government has shot itself in the foot, apart from ruining countless small businesses.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8975765/The-true-cost-Covid-19-Read-RUTH-SUNDERLANDs-terrifying-dossier-economic-damage.html

    1. Don’t worry.

       Thayaric has this solved.

       Spray money everywhere and retire gilts that the bank of England is holding and spray more money around.

       Britain can never become bankrupt, we have our own currency which we can create ad infinitum.

       We don’t need to tax people, if only governments understood this.

       1. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7e1c6b6efa743e6af6c5794129451747bbfa3489682fe722214287a2bc86455c.jpg

       2. just what I was told about the Canadian economy a month ago.

          Apparently us oldies that worry about national debt just don’t understand how it works nowadays, the government can now print as much money as they need and it will have no effect on anyone but a few bankers.

          Unfortunately Trudeau seems to believe this, he probably believes that a few of the billion trees that he promised to plant will be the magic money trees that Harry has pictured below.

          1. It must be an age thing.

             Reduce their “logic” to the point of absurdity.
             If the Government prints enough money to make everyone a billionaire what do they think would happen?

             1. If that happened, some lefty think tank would decry the way that not everyone had an above average pile of money. They would also blame the evil multinationals of price gouging when they increased the price of goods in the shops.

             2. Indeed

             3. 1 loaf of bread plus 250g of butter, 3 billion Marks Pounds please.

                Please park your barrow outside, thank you.

    2. Extinction Rebellion launches campaign of financial disobedience
       Group stages debt and tax strikes to expose ‘political economy’s complicity’ in ecological crisis
       https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/nov/23/extinction-rebellion-launch-campaign-of-financial-disobedience

       1. “Stephan Harrison, the professor of climate and environmental change
          , is backing the campaign.”
          I’m sure he’ll be encouraging them not to pay their uni fees either…..
          Oh wait

    3. You think that your small businesses have problems? Imagine running a restaurant in Ontario when the government have just imposed an outdoor dining only rule – just in time for the first snow storm of the year.

       1. I’m not sure whether Ontario’s snow or Wales’ horizontal rain would be the greater deterrent to outdoor dining. Or even just outdoor meeting for a chat. It doesn’t have anything to appeal on either side of the Atlantic.

    4. Gosh – Government spending up, tax receipts down – who’d have thunk it might be a problem?? Maybe it’s something to do with all these lockdowns – who knows?? /sarc

    5. I have been trying to avoid VAT-rated goods for some time. It’s a good day when my receipt totals zero VAT paid at the bottom. As I’m not travelling much as well, the VAT and duty revenue from my petrol and diesel expenses will have fallen considerably (as, indeed, fuel prices have).

28. mng to all [as and when]. Viz headline topic, usual cover using C-19 plandemic lockdown to gradually introduce further traffic measures. This is but a small part but part of “contagion” making car use more onerous. All part of the drive to reduce car usage and definitely move away from petrol/diesel while sustaining profits of fossilised fuel companies.

    And noting it’s no surprise the wealth of the “0.01%” has increased dramatically during ‘lockdown’, in no small part due to funneling trillions of taxpayer money into the stock markets.

29. 326730+ up ticks,
    Just another day in sin city, every day that passes makes it harder to re-claim the Capital, given away under the submit & appease rulings.

    https://twitter.com/StopTheKhanage/status/1330772860881735681

30. Mail to a Con MP…

    Interesting how David Cameron was awarded a position apparently rubbing shoulders with the key global government billionaires!

    One of which is the billionaire described by Nigel Farage as “this is where the real international political collusion is” and by your “Bruges Group” as a “real and dangerous influence”. The other billionaire has poured money into the UK, including SAGE, and reportedly leads the UK’s C-19 response which is, apparently, being kept secret by the Johnson administration.

    Still, it’s all a perfectly innocent random coincidence of course and there’s nothing to see here at all….

    Despite David Cameron’s major policies being identical to their policies, and despite Soros and Open Society curiously being omitted from his autobiography……

    All innocent, and there’s nothing to see here at all….

    Is that not true, Mr xxxxx ?

    Polly

    1. Cameron needed money for his shed to write his book – lightweight.

       NF, was referring to Soros, 3 yrs ago I think, in relation to his US$18bn Pro EU funding “charity” – Open Society . The international msg is complemented through Soros’ funded International Crisis Group https://www.crisisgroup.org

       The “other billionaire” obviously Billy Boy Gates and his Eugenics vaccines, hence stepping back [a bit] from Microsoft] to make sure strategic funding goes through the Govt conduits boths sides of the Atlantic.

       Redwood wants to ensure he gets his pension top up, maybe a minor role at Davos and not banjo his autobiography sales.

       1. Strange…

          His blog can’t be opened this morning !

          Maybe it will later…

          1. probably someone from junior school on work placement in 77 Bde screwed his access up – conveniently. He needs to stay “on message” as they can’t exactly kick him in the slats, he’s “Honourable”…?

             1. I do wonder about that…

                I’ve been mailing him for a year and hardly ever have had a reply.

                My impression is that he knows everything, that he’s keeping out of it, and covering up.

                I might be wrong, that’s just what I think.

             2. Doubt you’re wrong, selectively, timed controlled release of info on his terms, no response to questions that might impinge / counter his “points / argument”

    2. Polly, JR’s Diary is currently unavailable. Have you pointed your finger too often in his direction?

       1. I believe PP had fired an arrow through his letterbox and it hit him in the “arris”. The only bit JR can read on the quill [he’s still trying to extract it], is PP’s msg to RSVP

31. Half of girls in Britain were publicly sexually harassed in lockdown – let’s make it illegal – https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/half-girls-britain-publicly-sexually-harassed-lockdown-make/

    No comments allowed, of course. I’d like to know how many people were asked in this survey to determine that ‘half of girls in Britain’ have been publicly sexually assaulted since the lockdown. Lots of percentage figures bandied about but no figures given for how many people actually responded to the survey.

    1. Secually harrassed by what race/nationality and culture? We will never be told. But we have a damn good idea.

    2. And what was the definition of “publicly sexually harrased”? The sort of things we put up with in the 60s? Like wolf whistles, touchy feelies, bottom looking, upskirting?

       1. Tens of thousands of children raped and molested in 20 or more towns and cities in the UK but nothing done because it would be construed as racial harassment (and adversely affect the number of Labour/Lib Dem votes), but one or two Cockney binmen shout ‘Nice t*ts, love’ to a half dressed hooker hanging off the arm of a Chelsea footballer and the Guardian wimming go into frenzied meltdown. Le monde est à l’envers.

          1. Heavily edited, but Tw@ted:-
             https://twitter.com/BeardedBob7282/status/1330932264432246791

    3. Any person to person flirting is now regarded as sexual assault, but advertising yourself on a website for a liaison with a person you have never met seems to be perfectly OK. Strange world. Now, I just need to remember whether it was Tonder, Todger or twatter that I registered as Big Bill.

       1. It was prolly a YouGov poll – we know they are completely false.

    4. Yeah – saw that (activist) ‘article’ – in the same vein as the ones from Joan Smith (also no reader comments allowed) and that one I mentioned here the other day about the ‘gender pay gap’ which had all its reader comments deleted in 4 hours.

       Apparently they think that opinion surveys now equal evidence. The only evidence I see is of the Telegraph’s move to the Left/crony corporatism and censorship/disdain for its own readers. I’m glad I unsubbed, though I’m really ticked off that it came to that, after nearly 20 years.

       On that front, I see that DT Letters Page regular Martin Selves is now getting royally peed off at having his comments deleted by the mods or their auto program. Matthew Biddlecombe rarely makes an appearance there these days, probably for similar reasons to Martin as well as why I unsubbed.

32. https://twitter.com/CllrBSilvester/status/1330829439140306947?s=20

33. Kremlin critic says UK bank account shut because of Russian ‘black PR’. 23 November 2020.

    A longstanding critic of Kremlin corruption has accused NatWest of closing his bank account in the UK because it had been influenced by an intense and pervasive “black PR” campaign mounted against him by Russian actors in their home country.

    Since then, Browder has been subject of an intense campaign against him by the Kremlin, which has included the broadcast of at least four films on Russian television falsely accusing him of stealing IMF money and even of killing Magnitsky.

    The campaign in Russia, Browder said, ultimately influenced the British bank. “I had an account at NatWest for 25 years, I was considered one of their most profitable customers, and they told me outright they were closing my account because of the Russian press reports,” he told the Guardian.

    Natwest was influenced by programmes on Russian TV? I don’t think so. Much more likely is that they have realised that he really is a liar and a crook as the Russians say and they don’t want him on their books!

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/23/kremlin-critic-says-uk-bank-account-shut-because-of-russian-black-pr

34. Astra Zeneca have now got a Covid vaccine which if administered in an initial light dose followed by a second heavier dose gives 90% protection. BBC radio 4 news. Just announced.

    1. Wow! How many is that in very short order, three or four? It’s a miracle, a flaming miracle. While at the very same time a previous Health Secretary, Hunt, is proposing health passports and it is alleged that the government, such as it is, is considering the idea. Will we have a choice of vaccine? Conservative governments do so believe in freedom of choice e.g. you have the choice not to hug your relatives/friends and be able to go about your restricted life or hug and be arrested/beaten up by the forces of oppression that once was our police force.

       Personally, I not only smell bullshit, I see huge piles of it.

       Morning, clydesider.

       1. 326730+ up ticks,
          Morning KtK,
          They’ll pay at the next General Election.
          Tears of grim humour abound.

       2. Morning Korky.
          I think Pfizer stirred things up when they came out with their vaccine. The prize is so great for the winner that the other companies have found it necessary to publicise their progress,
          Astra Zenica stimulate immunity with their first dose and enhance it with the second dose. I don’t think we will be given a choice of vaccine when they are in use. We should have that choice.

       3. KtK mng. Vaccines and Health passports are only for “un-elite politicians, BBC, Sly News, Radio 4 staff” so they can go to Davos, or in Welby’s case, hunting for cheap priced red wine to replace the stocks he sold. That’s freedom of choice.

          We mere plebs don’t enter into it, until they sober up with a compulsory vaccine. What you smell and see is the Inquiry into leaked documents, selectively given to BBC, Sly News and Radio 4.

35. “Spiritual Renewal”? Are these the new weasel words for “Common Purpose top-up course”?

36. That’s me for now, folks, I’ve read all the comments, added a few of my own but there don’t seem to be any new ones. So I’ll wait ’til later and see if any new ones appear. ‘Bye for now.

37. Obit of an excellent bloke:-

    Air Marshal Sir John Baird, Surgeon-General who pushed for change in military medicine – obituary
    After specialising in aviation medicine he was later hailed as ‘the most able and distinguished Surgeon General of the late 20th century’

    Air Marshal Sir John Baird, who has died aged 83, was an RAF doctor with a special interest in aviation medicine; he rose to the top of his profession in the RAF before becoming the Surgeon-General of the Defence Medical Services.

    During his early service, Baird was a medical officer on two of the RAF’s busiest bases and this stimulated an interest in medical aspects of high-performance flying, including the effect of G-forces, decompression, anoxia, and the specialist clothing needed. In 1967 he took No 1 Course at the RAF Institute of Aviation Medicine at Farnborough, gaining the Diploma in Aviation Medicine.

    In 1970 he was selected to join a small group of RAF officers engaged on what was then a top-secret programme at Edwards Air Force Base in California. These officers were assigned to an American unit operating the Lockheed U2 “Dragon Lady” reconnaissance aircraft.

    Baird was one of the flight surgeons who supported the global role of the entire unit. His special interest was in the life support equipment worn by the pilots on the very high altitude flights, which were often of long duration. He closely observed all his RAF charges and became expert in this field, establishing an excellent reputation with all personnel on the unit, based on his professional knowledge, sympathetic approach and engaging personality.

    One of the RAF pilots serving on this unique unit commented: “As a flight surgeon, medical practitioner and representative of his parent service, he was highly respected and admired by all who worked with him, none of whom were surprised by the trajectory of his subsequent career. “

    John Alexander Baird was born on July 25 1937 in Blantyre, Nyasaland Protectorate, where his father was a doctor at the Church of Scotland Mission. After schooling in Southern Rhodesia, he attended Merchiston Castle School in Edinburgh. He started medical school at Edinburgh University in 1955 and graduated MB ChB in 1961.

    After residencies at the Western General Hospital, Edinburgh, he did a six-month tour of longhouses along the Baram River in Sarawak, and while he was upriver the rebellion in Brunei broke out. He became involved in setting up a casualty clearing station in the small town of Marudi, organising 600 Kenyah and Kayan Dyaks into a force to bring in the fleeing rebels along the jungle tributaries of the Baram.

    Later in his tour, he was involved in the rescue of patients in the severe floods following a typhoon along the Sarawak coast. During each of these incidents, he was flown in RAF light transport aircraft and helicopters, experiences that convinced him to join the RAF as a medical officer.

    In 1973 having returned from the US, Baird served as the senior medical officer on two “fast jet” stations. One of his pleasures was his close work with the aircrew, for whom he had the highest regard – and they for him. He regarded his ability to keep them flying safely as his highest priority.

    On many occasions he stuck his neck out at medical boards to avoid grounding aircrew, often in defiance of medical colleagues. Because of these views, he was held in highest trust by aircrew and this he valued above all other aspects of the job. He flew with them whenever he could and used to say he had the best of everything – medicine and flying.

    He next went to the HQ Strike Command as the Command Flight Medical Officer, an aviation medicine role covering all aircrew roles in the large command. During this time he became deeply involved in aircrew issues on the very long-range missions during the Falklands war. For this work he was awarded the Richard Fox-Linton Memorial Prize.

    In 1987 Baird assumed command of the RAF Hospital at Ely. While there, the Princess of Wales visited the hospital and it became the Princess of Wales RAF Hospital.

    On promotion to air commodore he went to RAF Germany as the Principal Medical Officer, and three years later, on further promotion, he filled the same post at Strike Command. This was followed by three years as the Director General RAF Medical Services.

    Following a defence cost study instigated as part of “Options for Change”, he was frustrated and dismayed over the closure of the RAF Institute of Aviation Medicine and the planned closure of RAF hospitals.

    In 1997 he became the Surgeon General Defence Medical Services, with responsibility for the health of all service personnel.

    The ramifications of the significant cuts from the major defence reviews of the post-Cold War era remained a major concern, and he now had to address this difficult situation across the whole defence medical arena. He was required to implement the severe cutbacks, with subsequent reduction in medical personnel, the final closures of military hospitals and the effect on morale, recruitment and retention in the service.

    Baird worked closely with senior staff officers, civil servants and ministers and was never afraid to talk tough. Unfortunately his words often fell on deaf ears. He had a mountain to climb in restoring morale in medical services, but fought all the battles with great resolve.

    In his Centenary History of the Royal Army Medical Corps J S G Blair writes: “In all of this, during the centenary year and until 2000, Air Marshal Sir John Baird came over as without doubt the most able and distinguished Surgeon General of the late 20th century – his arrival saw a sea change in our general situation – cessation of flannel and denial, and acceptance of problems with a clear effort to work to correct them.

    “As we in the Armed Forces Committee discovered, he alone was prepared to admit that things were badly wrong. Not for him the pretence that all was well for fear of compromising his career. He gained not only the highest respect, but also the real affection, of those representing the outside world of British doctors. His courage, in telling politicians that their Defence Medical Services had problems so serious that safe cover for a major enterprise abroad could not be provided, continued until the end of his time in post.”

    Baird was an Honorary Physician to the Queen from 1991 to 2000, when he retired to his home near Ely. He continued to be active in voluntary work, and was a Deputy Lieutenant in Cambridgeshire. He was patron of the Far East Prisoners of War Association, and served on the Royal Society of Medicine’s United Services Committee and on the Royal Aeronautical Society Aviation Medicine Group. He was a Fellow of numerous learned bodies.

    He was appointed KBE in 1999, and was a Commander Brother of the Order of St John.

    An avid ornithologist, John Baird travelled the world birding – “never twitching” – and was for many years President of the RAF Ornithological Society.

    Sir John Baird married Mary Clews in 1963; she survives him.

    John Baird, born July 25 1937, died November 11 2020

    Bill Legge
    22 Nov 2020 11:35PM
    I believe the closure of all military hospitals to be a poor decision.

    I bet he hated to put it into effect?

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    Robert Spowart
    23 Nov 2020 7:41AM
    @Bill Legge “Poor decision” is a gross understatement. The support given by Military Hospitals to the local NHS was incalculable, but their existence as beacon of excellence was an embarrassment and may have been a factor in their demise.Edit ()

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    1. When I was of breeding age, all the pregnant girlies in Colchester chose to give birth in the Military Hospital, not the local Mat. Home.
       Luckily, my GP had specialised in gynaecologist and obstetrics, so I avoided the whole conundrum by producing the boys at home.
       (Can you imagine a modern GP even knowing where you lived?)

       1. Of course they know where you live Anne. All the details are in their computers. My prescriptions come from the in-house dispensary and the paper bag is sealed with label bearing my name and address. So the staff know where you live too. Of course, depending on the people involved they may, or may not, know who you are!

          My neighbours are both in their mid-nineties and now pretty much housebound; the doctor (same practice) pays house calls there. I saw one calling last week.

    2. I wonder how many people currently in public service (in any capacity) will prove worthy of an obituary like that.

38. “SIR — Ann Hayward (Letters, November 20) need have no fear of pushing buggies over EV charging cables on pavements. They will all be stolen. A typical £200 EV cable is 30ft long and made from copper which, as scrap, sells for about £7,000 a ton.

    Paul McClory
    Oxford

    Ach! Dinna fesh yersel, Paul. If I nicked some charging cable I wouldn’t “weigh it in” as scrap. I’d use it as top-quality speaker connections for my Hi-Fi system.

    1. Morning, Grizz.
       We used top quality speaker cable (braided copper about the diameter of a thumb) to fix the earthing problem on Firstborn’s tractor, byt coupling the starter motor earth directly to the battery. That fixed the bugger – starts like a dream now!

       1. Morning, Paul.

          You can’t beat top quality copper cable. I bought some thick, four-stranded speaker cable from Germany, a reel of braiding, some heat-shrink tubing and a set of Nakamichi gold-plated banana plugs to make my own speaker connections. The improvement in sound quality after bi-wiring my speakers with it is phenomenal.

       2. Off course that would have been a connection to the red, positive terminal. Always goes with a bang!

    2. I use Spearfish torpedo cable for mine 🙂 #1 son is a sub weapons engineer.

39. UK should tilt foreign policy to Indo-Pacific region, report says. 23 November 2020.

    The report, prepared by a group of UK politicians for the right of centre thinktank Policy Exchange, and endorsed by the former Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe, represents a key shift in UK foreign policy thinking.

    The UK and the EU have agreed on the need for a new role for Britain dedicated to helping the countries of the Indo-Pacific area stand up to Beijing by upholding democracy, free trade supported by open seas and an uncensored internet.

    Morning everyone. Neo-Marxist Police State UK lectures totalitarian Communist China on Democracy. That should be good for a few laughs!

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/22/uk-should-tilt-foreign-policy-to-indo-pacific-region-report-says

    1. Mng again Araminta, I nearly spewed coffee reading “UK foreign policy thinking”

40. Somewhat off radar of most of posts here: John Cleese winds up the septic transgender crowd “admitting he wants to be a Cambodian Police Woman, among other things” https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/john_cleese_arouses_the_wrath_of_the_transgender_crowd.html

41. Fairly decent piece from Godfrey Bloom http://godfreybloom.uk/what-will-reset-mean/

42. 326730+ up ticks,
    Seeing as the Jay report was the annihilation of the lab party
    with regards to decent peoples support it would be very hard
    if not impossible to justify what these pretendy tory creatures
    are about, maybe one of their current members could give a reason.

    https://twitter.com/GerardBattenUK/status/1330852997593780226

    1. Boris will want to reunite their families with them for xmas. Unfortunately THEY will be coming HERE . . .for their lives on our taxes.

       1. For people who have been “sleping rough” – -their clothes are remarkably clean.

       2. 326730+ up ticks,
          Afternoon W,
          Him & the pretendee tory governance are good that way, if surprises me he hasn’t called a truce for overseas terrorist with family’s in the UK, visiting rights,
          exp. covered of course.

    2. That’s not strictly fair. France is the one not obeying international law. The French navy is not only ignoring this violation it is encouraging it.

       Frankly, Eu law has a lot to answer for. This isn’t humanitarian, it’s insulting. The nations of Europe signed up to the absurd treaty inviting sub saharan Africa here, when it comes it just funnels the wasters along dumping them on us – where they all want to come.

       We have left the EU. Damnit, 4 years later we haven’t stopped this nonsense and simply turned them away. But then, we don’t, do we? Part of the reason the EU is so desperate to keep us chained and these wasters want to come here is because good ol’ England is a law abiding decent sort who obeys the rules.

       1. Ahem, point of order; we have NOT yet left the EU (some four years on). We are still, until 31st December this year, in a transition period, during which time we are still subject to EU rules and the ECJ (and no doubt still paying a fortune, plus our VAT contributions).

43. Apologies if someone earlier posted this, if different, Mike Yeadon on Zero Hodge https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/pandemic-over-former-pfizer-chief-science-officer-says-second-wave-faked-false-positive summary “Pandemic’s over, basing policy that is affecting billions of humans on data that is uninterpretable gibberish”

44. A bit of fun. Bill Gates is just ahead of Matt Hancock at the moment.

    https://twitter.com/davidkurten/status/1330868480111939585

    1. Tough choices, but had to be Billy boy Gates. He’s now way ahead of all the others. We’ll await Twitter’s Smartmatic to produce the results!

    2. All of them.

    3. Hancock should go first, what harm could it do him?

    4. Test it on MPs – if it works we save lives, if it doesn’t work we save the country

       1. Exactly – ALL MPs, and their families, then the House of Lords! And, obviously Witless and Vallance

45. Brutal Modern Life……………

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnYPfKhXMAERkuL?format=jpg&name=small

    1. Sadly accurate. All the state does is demand obedience to rules they don’t apply to themselves.

46. Ahem…………..
    https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/060/076/518/original/e1becc69475187f9.jpg

    1. They can tell them all they want. China will simply ignore them. Worse, it will call in the loans and business arrangements they exist on.

       It’s tiresome. A bunch of overpaid, underworked, Left wing, arrogant, egocentric troughing wasters lecture us on how we should live, while knowing they do not face the consequences of that hectoring and, more likely individually contribute more to climate change with their pontificating than any other person.

47. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7fcfb42e38b951da04a75847f0799170356d3df6b7c05a377175462d3f33b994.jpg

48. For driving over the cracks in the road??
    https://twitter.com/JakeHepple1/status/1330817862462791680?s=20

    1. Offence against the Woke Act 2020 in that he refused to take the knee and was found wantonly breathing with intent to survive.

    2. Perhaps he should get a professional to check his motor for tracking bugs, or perhaps it’s his mobile phone.

49. Ahem
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bb0f8d916805ef5344467ac5790b0e2d3a9056d817fd5412a87d286f92efc327.png

    1. Carrie On?

50. As requested I’ll post the horrors early and save the jokes for later

    Socialism you say………………

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/471ba94b605bf858a52a2fda4e29bb337ff1818edbccf600542be2e4abebe73d.png

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b0f5b2a5cc79684499442c41a8e343289df3b6034c99e58b8daf2fee53832f22.jpg

    https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/126214053_714232759513958_444868387917464192_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=NhahEpe1nnYAX8xj6Yc&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr8-1.xx&oh=97af0d8cf9d4ab965ee39e2baaa427e9&oe=5FE1930B

    1. Terrrifying .

51. 326730+ up ticks,
    Wonder if digit dick is running his finger around the inside of his collar,
    https://twitter.com/GerardBattenUK/status/1330662609780170752

52. Knackered.
    Walk to Cromford & back for the paper and then pulping and pressing three lots of apples to get a couple of gallon of juice!
    Fire is lit and dinner is on for when S@H gets home from work so after I’ve finished this mug of tea I think I’ll about ready for a bath.

53. “London bloodbath: Man stabbed dead at West London cemetery”

    Not enough people dying of coconut virus. Undertakers resorting to short cuts to remain in business.

    1. Burke and Hare resurfaced?

54. There is a letter today that deserves a look by football players and fans. It suggests that heading the ball is made a foul and replaced by a firmly double hand clasped punch. The football laws could be created to avoid cheating and the camera surveillance would provide the evidence. I think it could work. Dementia in later life for footballers would be reduced.

    1. It would make no difference, most footballers have incipient dementia from birth. The only reason it take so long to appear is because their tiny brain is so thick it takes years to reach the surface.

    2. The following letter makes more sense to me.
       “SIR – Luke Edwards (“The great heading debate”, telegraph.co.uk) is right that banning heading in football would make a farce of the game.

       There is no evidence that heading causes dementia or brain injury in the era of the waterproof ball. All the evidence of it comes from a time when footballs were like rocks when wet. They now weigh almost the same wet or dry. A knee-jerk reaction, based on irrelevant data, may have devastating consequences.

       Oliver Drewett
       Caterham, Surrey”

       1. It only really hurt when you headed the laces

          1. Ouch, yes, and an imprint on your forehead

          2. I once ended up with a long scrape across my forehead where the laces had picked up a lump of mud containing grit and I was foolish enough to attempt a glancing header.

          3. A pub landlord I knew was an ex-professional at Preston and had played with Tom Finney and against Stanley Matthews. He said that in his opinion Finney was even better than Matthews

             He claimed that Finney could cross the ball so accurately for the centre forward that the laces were pointing towards the goal. Probably rubbish, but it made a good tale over a pint.

    3. SIR – Congratulations for giving generous front-page coverage (November 18) to Geoff Hurst, urging children to be discouraged from heading a soccer ball in light of the tragic damage done in old age to his fellow players such as the Charlton brothers. Let’s take it a stage further.

       The game is called football. Why not just play it like that in future?

       Peter Wyton

       Gloucester

       SIR – If heading the ball was banned (Sport, November 19), there would be fewer goals and corners would become somewhat futile.

       One solution would be to allow the use of a clasped double fist on aerial balls. A new technique to be learnt – to replace the header, sustain goal scoring and avoid brain injury.

       David Dunlop

       Barkestone-le-Vale, Leicestershire

       SIR – Luke Edwards (“The great heading debate”, telegraph.co.uk) is right that banning heading in football would make a farce of the game.

       There is no evidence that heading causes dementia or brain injury in the era of the waterproof ball. All the evidence of it comes from a time when footballs were like rocks when wet. They now weigh almost the same wet or dry. A knee-jerk reaction, based on irrelevant data, may have devastating consequences.

       Oliver Drewett

       Caterham, Surrey

       1. On, “On me ‘ead, son” will become, “On me fist, son.”?

          1. Please keep your perversions to yourself.

       2. The modern footballs might be lighter than a sodden leather one but they are delivered at twice the speed or more so might be achieving much the same force.

          1. Or worse.

             Half the mass times the square of the velocity, if I recall correctly.

             1. I think what is more relevant is the momentary impulse or momentum = speed x mass. So, it probably cancels out.

             2. Wouldn’t that assume that the ball had stopped accelerating?

                Most headers are against a ball that is still accelerating.

             3. One contact has been made with the ball by a foot the ball ceases to accelerate and is slowed by wind resistance. Without a force behind it it cannot accelerate (Newtons 2nd law I believe)

             4. I’m no physicist, but Shirley as soon at the ball leaves the boot, which has accelerated it to that point, the ball will be decelerating.

             5. I stopped studying it years ago, and am happy to be corrected, but I would have expected the same mass times square of velocity to apply, where the mass being the foot and the velocity being the speed of the foot.

                The ball will be hit and initially accelerated and then get to maximum speed and start to slow.
                If is on a level trajectory that will be different from a ball going high where the effect of gravity where its could be accelerating again, thanks to gravity.

             6. The mass times square of velocity to get impact force is just for the speed at impact. If there was acceleration involved I think you would need a more complex calculation. Hey, I got a B at maths O level so long ago I can’t calculate the year.

             7. Mmm, as soon as the acceleratory force, the boot, is no longer in contact with the ball, then the ball will start to decelerate. Pretty sure.

             8. If that is the case, why does a tennis ball not slow down after a return of serve?

             9. It slows down pretty quickly to zero as it contacts the non-server’s racket before accelerating in the opposite direction while in contact with the returning racket.
                The football; https://davidson.weizmann.ac.il/en/online/maagarmada/physics/physics-behind-soccer-kicks#:~:text=However%2C%20after%20we%20kick%20the,the%20direction%20we%20kicked%20it.&text=When%20we%20kick%20the%20ball,dozens%20of%20kilometers%20per%20hour.

             10. Interesting article.
                 I stand corrected.

                 However, I will still maintain that the modern ball flying faster will do more damage to a player than an old heavier ball going much slower.

             11. The theory should be tested with short range penalty kicks at naked politicians tied to goal posts.

             12. The mass times square of velocity to get impact force is just for the speed at impact. If there was acceleration involved I think you would need a more complex calculation. Hey, I got a B at maths O level so long ago I can’t calculate the year.

             13. Got to be more recent than mine.

                 O levels got a number not a letter in my day!

       3. It was bad enough trying to kick a waterlogged football, 50 or 60 years ago, let alone heading one.

          1. When I was a goalkeeper (a short career), one of them broke my right wrist!

             The excitement was compounded by being driven across the Egyptian desert (from Abu Sueir to Fayid) in an ambulance with two armed guards! 1950.

             1. A sensible precaution on their part.

             2. Back to the borstal hospital after a day release game?

             3. I was nine! That journey was regarded as potentially dangerous.

             4. I remember an interschool game against Ham primary school when their goalie had a withered arm. Hard to believe, but true, they must have been a bit short on choice. He was pretty good too, but it didn’t stop me shoulder barging him, and the ball, through the posts. Allowed goal!

             5. “And so, Gary, you ended up presenting a TV foopball (sic) programme?”

             6. Have a crisp.

          2. Let’s ban wicked cricket balls. One of which took out a front tooth of mine – aged 11 … never, ever got a matinee smile after that.

             1. Snap sort of.

                I was catcher in a softball game. We had no protective equipment. The dumbarse was supposed to drop the bat in the square but she launched it behind her hard and fast. I lost one of my front teeth. Took years to finally get it sorted out properly. School Dentists were crap.

                What my mother said was to go see the Dentist. What she should have done was rant at the school to pay for me to go private.

             2. I always thought softball was badly named, the damned thing is very hard, particularly if it hits somehere very soft.

             3. The thick end of the bat was even harder.

             4. Snap sort of.

                I was catcher in a softball game. We had no protective equipment. The dumbarse was supposed to drop the bat in the square but she launched it behind her hard and fast. I lost one of my front teeth. Took years to finally get it sorted out properly. School Dentists were crap.

                What my mother said was to go see the Dentist. What she should have done was rant at the school to pay for me to go private.

    4. Maradona will be pleased – it would legitimise his goal

    5. Instead of allowing the ball to be punched, a better solution might be to make the goals wider and higher and give a free kick for lofted balls except for goal kicks and direct shots on goal.

    6. Or do what they used to do in hockey and make lofted balls illegal. And, no that’s not a euphemism.

55. Good morning my friends

    Reposted from late last night

    DT Article by Gordon Rayner,

    Boris Johnson prepares significant Brexit intervention as negotiators begin the ‘final push’
    The PM is expected to attempt to clear away the final barriers to a deal – both sides believe one is now within reach
    
    I suspect that if he does not cave in Princess Nut Nut will leave him. He has his orders: “Cave in or I go!”.

    But if he does cave in his career in politics is finished – he will never be elected to anything ever again and he will probably be kicked out of The Conservative Party. He is greatly despised and if he is not electable then the party will have no further use for him.

    If his career in politics is finished there will be no reason for Princess Nut Nut to stay with him any more so she will leave.

    So if he is going to lose his mistress either way why not at least be true to Brexit?

    1. 326730+ up ticks,
       Morning R,
       The johnson is a pre orchestrated placement same as may the treacherous.

       IMO the deal was done long ago, and as for boat / bridge burning this governance mob has really done a high voltage demolition number on the Country.

       I do not believe johnson is looking to the future as a political leader, as with many of them, his part in the plot is near done.

       As for “Conservative Party,”
       major, the wretch cameron, clegg, may, prior to johnson put paid to that, we could NEVER have achieved such a depth of
       degeneracy without their input.

    2. 326730+ up ticks,
       Morning R,
       The johnson is a pre orchestrated placement same as may the treacherous.

       IMO the deal was done long ago, and as for boat / bridge burning this governance mob has really done a high voltage demolition number on the Country.

       I do not believe johnson is looking to the future as a political leader, as with many of them, his part in the plot is near done.

       As for “Conservative Party,”
       major, the wretch cameron, clegg, may, prior to johnson put paid to that, we could NEVER have achieved such a depth of
       degeneracy without their input.

56. In the years to come we will view the 2020 US election the same way we view this, at the current time the referee couldn’t find any credible evidence of foul play, it will be forever known as Biden’s vote of God moment.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ccNkksrfls

    1. I ask myself one simple question, if I was Sleepy Joe and truly wanted to unify the country and be president for all Americans, would I and my party cooperate to support any investigation necessary to allay suspicions of fraud. Is Biden happy in his own mind that suspicions of fraud is unfounded, it doesn’t seem that way, perhaps that’s why there has been no cooperation from him and his party.
       If he ends up President, he is in for a bumpy ride, at least until ill health allows Harris to take over.

       1. He’ll be a lame duck, and his minders will be in power. Perhaps that was the plan.

       2. ‘If he ends up President, he is in for a bumpy ride, ……..’

          I dread to think what the American middle-roaders
          are in for!

          Good afternoon, VVOF.

          1. Hello Folks,

             Trump was never going be allowed to win.

             1. Good afternoon Nags!

             2. 326730+ up ticks,
                Afternoon N,
                UKIPitus.

             3. Of course, you are correct
                in your statement.

          2. Good afternoon Garlands, if the worst occurs however long he lasts (months is my bet) he will escape all the retribution by virtue of the fact he will be recognised as a dementia sufferer.

57. Something on the radio reminded me of the old poem; The boy stood on the burning deck.

    Unknown:
    The boy stood on the burning deck,
    The flames ’round him did roar;
    He found a bar of Ivory Soap
    And washed himself ashore.

    Spike Milligan:
    The boy stood on the burning deck
    Whence all but he had fled –
    Twit!

    Eric Morecambe:
    The boy stood on the burning deck
    His lips were all a-quiver
    He gave a cough, his leg fell off
    And floated down the river.

    The rugby song:
    The boy stood on the burning deck
    His pocket full of crackers
    One flew down his trousers leg
    And blew off both his *******s

    1. The boy wasn’t on the burning deck,
       He wasn’t with Captain Howard,
       He wasn’t even on the ship
       The dirty little coward?

       1. The boy was French. The poem was written by Felicia Dorothea Hemans, a ‘Scouser’, an Englishwoman of Irish decent born in Liverpool. She also wrote The (Stately) Homes of England:

          The stately homes of England,
          How beautiful they stand!
          Amidst their tall ancestral trees,
          O’er all the pleasant land;
          The deer across their greensward bound
          Through shade and sunny gleam,
          And the swan glides past them with the sound
          Of some rejoicing stream.

          From “The Homes of England” (1827)

58. Afternoon all.

    Worth a view ….

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55035377

    1. Not worth a view:

       https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-55009950

       Note the Bbc now have a ‘Specialist disinformation reporter’!

       1. The latest from the BBC disinformation reporter is that the WEF’s Professor Schwab saying “The Great Reset” is all just a conspiracy theory.

          That’s strange, because on Google the book “The Great Reset” is advertised for sale.

          1. £7.99 on Amazon.

59. Andy,OI ANDY,you know that far right conspiracy tinfoiled fantasies about the Great Reset??

    “There is a golden opportunity to seize something good from this

    crisis…global crises know no borders, and highlight how interdependent

    we are as one people sharing one planet.”

    Speaking at the launch of the Forum’s Great Reset on

    Wednesday, those were the words of HRH the Prince of Wales on

    humanity’s chance to craft a more sustainable and equitable world in the

    wake of the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic.

    He added: “Unless we take the action necessary, and build in a

    greener and more inclusive and sustainable way, then we will have more

    and more pandemics.”**

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/great-reset-launch-prince-charles-guterres-georgieva-burrow/
    ** By the way,does that sound like a threat??

    1. How on earth did he manage to connect a “greener more inclusive sustainable way of building” and “more pandemics?” Oh dear.

       1. He’s a prat?

          Probably been told he can play at being King after the ‘Reset’. Useful idiot and we know what happens to those people.

          1. Like H!tler promised the throne to his great uncle?

          2. Indeed. Good to know you’re getting along OK Korky. KBO.

             1. Thanks, vw.

                KBO or rather a fuller version of the quote got me banned immediately from FaceAche. I was setting up my profile and was asked for my favourite quote. Many kind Nottlers had advised me to KBO and so I used that. Gone in milliseconds. Yankee BOTS, eh.

    2. I’m certain they can now invent one whenever they like now they understand how malleable the sheeple are.

       1. Alf!! tut tut:-

          They have yet to experience our
          displeasure….. as we speak i have
          a barrowload of wet lettuces….
          ready for the throwing of!

          1. Good afternoon Garlands. What a very green solution.

             1. I try, always, to follow
                the money [… ..whoops!!]
                to provide funds for the
                ethical way!

60. The green revolution is really a scheme to clear roads of private vehicles, that is surely putting the cart before the horse and unnecessarily so.

    An unproven over time vaccine, will cure FOR SURE all types of overcrowding… permanently,

61. Just in time for Christmas: Hancock hails massive breakthrough after Oxford-AstraZeneca announce their vaccine is up to 90% effective and can be stored in a normal fridge. 23 November 2020.

    The jab is expected to cost just £2 a time and can be stored cheaply in a normal fridge, unlike other vaccines made by Pfizer and Moderna that showed similarly promising results last week but need to be kept in ultra-cold temperatures using expensive equipment.

    You take this thing at your peril!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8976835/Oxford-AstraZeneca-announce-Covid-vaccine-70-effective.html

    1. Allegedly when this took flight earlier this morning the figure was up to 70% effective but this has now been amended to 90% effective. They seem to make it up as they go along, the plebs won’t know any different.

       1. 90% effective to achieve what is the real question that needs an answer?

          1. Ummmmm………

             Only 10% of the population still alive ?

          2. The real question is do you get your free pass after the first or second jab?

       2. I think they amended the figure for a 2 dose treatment so single dose was 70% and 2 dose was 90%……..still beware!

    2. You take ANY of these medicine men’s cv-19 concoctions at your peril. Hancock must be wetting himself in anticipation of forcing these untested vaccines on the population. We know that Hancock is in thrall to Schwab et al. Is Johnson so stupid as to be in thrall to Hancock and therefore following the latter’s story line or is he as evil as Hancock in this matter?

       1. The two propositions in your last sentence are not mutually exclusive, you know, Korky. Glad to see you are managing to KBO.

62. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/667162c502823ca608825a064459b78db19139c2ba3a0640221287ee3004ec1d.png JACUZZI NIGHT IN HAMPSHIRE.

    1. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9da119d6057cdf815f57d6204987e3417b7a740a83ad247233f5bf665e89436e.jpg

    2. Grizz’s dual use Jacuzzi. Making the stock for his supper.

       https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d959dcaa0c91a06149b0c4ce32069c56be62dc00d2b673b0f47ab10375e7036b.png

       1. That’s how you kill frogs, isn’t it? Put them in a pan of cold water and the apply heat?

          1. Is that how you make your frog and trombetti soup?

       2. Can’t beat a good fishy stock.

    3. I’m consulting my lawyer. Where did you get my pic?

       1. Dolly’s ‘R Us

          1. Dolly’s a Mixture.

             1. Dolly is a thoroughbred Chichuahua self identifying as an overweight corgi. The lardarse.

             2. My diet’s going very well.
                Signed,
                smug, sylphlike Spartacus.
                x
                (Currently sticking pins into a wax model of the vet)

             3. Help !!! If stick to her diet she eats twigs and leaf. she’s a crafty mare.

             4. Spartie brings them in, chews them up and then spits bits out.
                Check if Dolly is actually chewing rather than eating them.

             5. Difficult to say. she hoovers up everything. I’ve stopped putting anything out for the birdies. She always seems to have something in her gob. Including unmentionables when she manages to elude me in the park.

                I really am having a problem in controlling her weight but other than just giving her 55gms of diet biscuits a day as the Vet suggests i don’t know what to do. I can’t muzzle her.

       2. :-)) … loudly and [to my shame]
          raucously!

63. I thought you might all be interested in this..
    It seems that Honcho Boris is going to address the Nation again this evening – he says at 7pm – I wonder if he will make it on time today. I doubt it.
    The topic is supposed be centred on the arrangements for Christmas. (arrogance in the extreme – I can make my own arrangements thanks)
    What is actually planned is a Rose by any other name.
    Nominal return to Regional/local tiers – all of which will have been strengthened.
    Suggest you look on NHS digital and check out the data for your area. If you can make it support any kind of lockdown – well!
    Notably the South East will be included in the “RED” zone.
    Also the period of “Lift” is unlikely to include New Year.

    These last 2 may well be connected.

    1. Good evening, Nags. Will this mean that all those hundreds of illegals landing in Kent will be sent packing?

       1. Probably not Bill – but it will keep the roads clear if there is a Brexit bungle.

          1. Nags, are you telling me there
             is the possibility, however small,
             that there will not be a
             ‘Brexit bungle’?

             1. That depends on what you regard as a bungle.
                My info atm is that preparation is for No Deal.

             2. French get stroppy – lorries back up. Hey Ho M27 has hardly any traffic.

             3. I hope your ‘info atm’ implies that
                either you or Citroen are standing
                behind the PM with a two foot
                length of 32mm reinforcing bar,
                ……ready to insert it if and when
                necessary!

             4. Dolly and me are waiting a week but we think we are going ahead. Hope you are too.

             5. Fingers crossed. I can’t see any deal being in our favour, to be honest.

          2. I’m so relieved that Euroforce won’t have to deal with traffic jams as they bash peoples front doors in because our Police are too shy.

       2. (Hollow Laugh)

64. Sunset in Fulmodeston

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a5c224b2d7c17682130f2a0e9771f9dc002199fa37911df5a16124c4ecb85141.jpg

    1. That’s lovely enough to put on your Christmas cards!

       1. Might work but Bill doesn’t know how to photoshop snow and Robins.

65. Another DM link:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8976313/STEPHEN-GLOVER-Attacking-awkward-truths-sinister-sign-weakness.html

    1. You mean we have been lied to? Wow – could never have imagined that…{:¬))

    2. Morning, I found it interesting that his 1st sentence included a pop at Trump who I thought advocated a return to normality as much as possible, including the message that the a healthy economy is essential to the country. Somewhat in line with the original Daily Fail article.
       Trump may not be everybody’s cup of tea but the author diminishes himself by the “wild man” remark.

       1. Maybe non conformist would have been a better tag.

          After reading the article, it struck me how all of the background pictures that they use of IC units appear to show middle aged patients being treated with the utmost urgency that money can buy, there are never the frail old grannies that would be more susceptible.

          1. They don’t bother treating those.

             1. I hear they had to purchase thousands of extra DNR signs for the grannies’ beds.

          2. Yes perhaps non conformist is a better description.

             The MSM cannot help themselves, only last week my local news reported on 3 patients in a local hospital suffering CV-19. Of course they only showed one, not particularly old, just fell right into the age range you described.

             Who believes anything they say anymore, not me.

             1. My area’s news can’t report on deaths, because it’ll indicate to viewers that things aren’t anywhere enar as bad as they’ve been portayed: 2 people have dies ‘with’ COVID since early July in my council area (~100k people); next door council are – none, other one – 1 person. Total population around the 250k – 300k mark. 3 deaths.

                Wow. Shops, etc shut because of that huge number. People losing their jobs, businesses, livelihoods, minds. And most people just shrug their shoulders and let it happen.

       2. Seems the DM is going in the same OMB direction that the Tele- ahem, I mean Starmergraph has. No British newspaper of note now actual conservative in nature, or for that matter who factually reports the news without bias and keeps comment separate.

          1. The Daily Fail had a change of direction with Paul Dacre resigning and it certainly shows. I am saddened by the death of true journalism in the UK.

66. Gave a youg woman a lift in the car yesterday she looked stranded so was happy to help. We had a good chat and I asked he what she did, and she said I am a witch. i said, come off it. She put her hand on my knee and I turned ino a layby

    1. Good one, Johnny!

    2. Gent picked up an old lady under similar circumstances. She really was an old hag, and she said she would grant the guy one wish if he had sex with her. After having sex, he told her his wish, which was to meet and marry a blond 30 year old nymphomanic, who would remain faithful to him and whose father owned a brewery. “How old are you?” asked the hag. “Forty eight” replied the gent. “A bit old to believe in witches, aren’t you?” replied the hag.

    3. Filth!

       1. Nothing like a bit of filth to cheer us up.

          1. Tomorrow – – Chancellor to introduce the Filth tax.

             1. Damn!

67. I see the feminazis that dominate English Literature faculties across the western world are wreaking revenge on long dead and unread poet Ted Hughes whom they have long held in utter contempt for having ‘killed’ Saint Sylvia of Plath, for his three centuries old connection to slavery. This manifestation of tolerance free debate has a certain delicious quality many I feel will enjoy alongside my own delight in seeing the ‘revolution eating its own’. St Sylvia was an American. Perhaps she might have had a connection also – so many distinguished personalities over in the colony did did they not? Like the cult of Scient/ology, woke ‘unpersoning’ is somehow defining, like those thousands – nay millions – of Stalin era photographs keeping a legion of re-touchers busy at all hours deleting former heroes of the moment who fell on hard times or an 9 mm bullet with their head.

68. Instead of banning heading in football why don’t they just deflate the ball and award points for best cartwheeling and faked injuries. It would be more entertaining than the present 90 minute farce and there would be no problem with footballer’s brain damage – an oxymoron if ever there was one – but the excuse would be missing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3HebsWpZ1Q

    1. What, no diving?

69. I understand that the Coronavirus has very kindly agreed a Christmas cease-fire.

    Will it be offering to play football with the enemy?

    1. It appears the latest vaccines can tell how old you are.

       1. That’s lucky, Bill’s so old he’s forgotten.

          1. Forgotten … ?

             Forgotten what?

             1. “It appears the latest vaccines can tell how old you are.”

                His age.

             2. She was making a joke – do keep up.

             3. It was you I was referring to, so it could have been anything…

             4. Most of the other
                ‘lady’ posters are
                referred to by name
                or endearment …

                Sobs … I am just
                a ‘she’?

             5. “She is the cat’s mother” was one of my mother’s favourite sayings – as Bill is devoted to his cats, perhaps it was meant as a compliment 🙂

             6. My dear G – my heart breaks…

             7. Not good enough. Gather all the cat fluff and weave a heart of forgiveness. !

       2. That is worrying….. (it would not surprise me) – if your are in your eighties, you will be given another six months of life; if you are in your seventies perhaps two or three years, in your sixties you will be given a vaccine that gives you five/ten years depending on your health and potential drain on what will pass for the nhs. And no-one will ever know, it simply would never be reported. Cunning, isn’t it?

          1. Dear Mum.

             Ignore it all, follow your
             instincts … after all they
             have served you well all
             your life, why should they
             now change?

             1. My instincts are most certainly not to have the vaccine, I don’t submit to the ‘flu jab, neither have I had the pneumonia jab and no intention either of having it. Strangely – or not! – everyone I know who has had the pneumonia jab did get pneumonia. Including my own mother. However, what do you do if you are coerced – I can live without travel but what about for instance if your access to food (rationed), water and electricity (by use of smart meters, of which we have neither at this minute) is denied? Health and dental services? I know I have been reading too much TCW today but it does cross one’s mind. I will not be blackmailed into having this vaccine, ever…..!

             2. There was some nonsense in the press today about denying intensive care treatment to people who haven’t had the vaccine. If they start down that road, everyone who is overweight should also be denied diabetes treatment etc etc.
                They would love to do it, but I don’t think it will be quite that easy in practice.

             3. Take heart, pm. I have had the pneumonia jab several years ago and haven’t had pneumonia.

             4. Yes, I have had the pneumonia shot, mainly because I ended up in ICU with pneumonia some years ago, an experience I did not want to repeat!

             5. 326730+ up ticks,
                Evening PM,
                Same as that, where there is a negative there is a positive, the political control
                manipulative freaks will be
                issuing them on the same day your neighbourhood
                crook will be, the difference
                will not be noticeable.
                Also do NOT let them sweet talk you into having your ear notched and a tag attached I believe this is the next step they are going to try on all current lab/lib/con
                member / voters, steer clear.

          2. With yet more replacements reportedly arriving today the govt need the houses. Clearly nothing is being done to stop them coming. Dan O’Mahoney ( He with the silly title ) appears to be sat in his chair collecting his “wage” – and nothing else.

          3. If any of the vaccines contain, as rumoured, genetic material i.e. mRNA in its recipe, why is that ingredient included? mRNA carries genetic messages between DNA molecules (so I’ve read). There is information around the internet that claims that genetic material of this type has never been allowed in vaccines before. If true, why now?

             1. My understanding is that mRNA vaccines were hitherto banned because they modify our RNA and are likely to cause irreparable damage to our natural immune systems. As far as the Pharma companies are concerned this is the holy grail for mass repeated inoculations of the world population.

                This is because we will all need regular doses to restore a modicum of immunity (to a non existent novel virus) for the rest of our lives if we do not die of other diseases for which our natural immunity is lost.

             2. The truly frightening aspect to that (as if the rest weren’t bad enough) is that they can pull the plug on your life whenever they wished – the ultimate control.

             3. The Oxford scientists are claiming that they were prepared for this virus having produced a vaccine for the last Corona virus and that this shortening in the development of their latest vaccine is the result of a head start of er… ten years research and testing. If you believe that you will believe anything.

                In reality, even had they perfected a vaccine it was never deployed for the reason that the predictions of Neil Ferguson were as fanciful then as now. Less than fifty deaths against predictions of hundreds of thousands.

             4. I heard a female expert on Radio 4 tonight saying that the RNA ingredient allows a rapid change to be made in the vaccine if the virus mutates.

             5. Do not believe it. They are flogging vaccines for personal gain and company profits. They are not that clever. If they were they would not have sought indemnification from prosecution when it all goes wrong and hundreds of thousands die.

             6. I suspected that it would be added to attack our immune system and make many people susceptible to a later virus that just happened to appear. Eradicating millions of people in short order would give the game away but degrading general immunity and then having a new pandemic or two over the next decade could be seen as a way ahead for the controllers.

             7. Precisely. Bill Gates himself has intimated that we would have to take the next virus seriously, words uttered with a smirk on his evil face and that of his ugly wife.

                It is important to remember that Gates is foremost a Eugenist. He believes himself to be super intelligent and above the rest of humanity, after all a billion people use his crap operating systems so, by extension, we must all be dumb and capable of manipulation in roughly equal numbers in the mind of a megalomaniac.

                I fervently hope that the world will awaken to this thoroughly wicked man and his intentions.

             8. That is precisely their plan. Gates has more or less said so.

             9. They could put a contraceptive drug in the vaccine. That would eventually reduce the world population without killing millions of people.

          4. Six months ago I would have dismissed that idea as too fanciful…now I think the only reason why it might not happen is the difficulty of implementing it.

             1. I do hope so.

       3. The only thing we can say with certainty about the vaccines is that none have been rigorously tested over a 10 year span, side effects are inevitable and no one knows how severe these might be, that the vaccines appear to be designed to require multiple injections and regular boosters, that Bill Gates will make another fortune from his vaccine patents, that the oligarchs are laughing all the way to the bank and that the likes of Johnson and Hancock have sold us all down the river.

       4. The only thing we can say with certainty about the vaccines is that none have been rigorously tested over a 10 year span, side effects are inevitable and no one knows how severe these might be, that the vaccines appear to be designed to require multiple injections and regular boosters, that Bill Gates will make another fortune from his vaccine patents, that the oligarchs are laughing all the way to the bank and that the likes of Johnson and Hancock have sold us all down the river.

    2. Only if they can find a suitable no person’s-land.

70. Well worth watching, before it is removed:

    https://lbry.tv/Mike-Yeadon-Unlocked:0

    1. I didn’t know about the origin of the word ‘vaccine’, vac being ‘cow’ in Latin. Vache in French of course.
       So they want us to be vaccinated, or should I say cowed?

    2. He was removed from YouTube – it’s censorship. He knows a lot more about this topic than most of the idiots on Sage.

    3. I didn’t know about the origin of the word ‘vaccine’, vac being ‘cow’ in Latin. Vache in French of course.
       So they want us to be vaccinated, or should I say cowed?

       1. 326730+ up ticks,
          Afternoon M,
          Agreed, with bells on.

       2. ‘Vacca’ is the Latin name for a cow.

          1. It sounded like the Doc said vac, so I took him at his word.

       3. From Dr Jenner’s use of cowpox for his trials.

          1. Yup.

          2. Sorry, I didn’t see your post before I posted mine.

       4. It is, I believe, because the original vaccine came from cowpox – Jenner, I think it was, noticed that milkmaids who had had a dose of cowpox either didn’t get, or only got a mild version of, smallpox.

71. Love it,love it,love it

    Fabulous post by a reader on Lockdown Skeptics. Lad!

    “Arnie
    7 hours ago
    Part 2 of my raid on the local parks.

    Last week I went to our local playpark & removed all the tape &
    signage closing the place down. The next day the place was packed with
    parents & kids.

    I’ve been past several times since & it’s still going strong! Yaay, result!

    Since then I’ve ‘acquired’ a local council hi-viz vest. Ahem.

    So now I’ve spread my net further afield. I went to our nearby town at the
    weekend, clipboard in hand, scissors in my pocket. Spent the morning
    brazenly cutting tape & posters down acting as if in an official
    capacity.

    Three more playparks open.

    I’ll be doing a few more over the coming days…

    Trying to think what else I can be getting up to… Thoughts please…”

    1. Create an official looking one-way system that doesn’t ever lead to an exit.

       1. ” an official looking one-way system that doesn’t ever lead to an exit ” .Something like the EU and Brexit?

          1. {:-((

    2. 326730+up ticks,
       Arnie,
       Ever thought of taking up a short history book entry, political career ?
       Upgrade the scissors to a chainsaw and entering the corridors of misused power.

72. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d33c290f3351f2f9f0e36efda0eb3631d774f052f1be6ca616d5ad37184f4d13.png Only in Oz.

    1. Did you remove that from Downing St?

       1. No but I can tell you a true story about a Swedish friend who went out one night and removed a triangular road warning sign depicting a moose. That sign was then packaged up and sent to another friend in Australia, who has erected it in the street outside his house (he lives way out in the bush!).

          Needless to say it confuses the hell out of visitors and passers-by.

          1. Moose? – a Scottish mouse? There’s a moose loose aroond the hoose

             1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wioh5qUj7fM

             2. I remember it well Anne

             3. So do I.

             4. Bugger! I didn’t see that!

             5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIekZvhyrsk

          2. A newly discovered Mooseupial.

73. Article by the best Prime Minister we never had.
    Given his final comments, I’m afraid the Chingford Pole Cat is going soft in his old age.

    “https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/11/23/right-wing-woman-determined-crush-crime-no-wonder-priti-patel/

    A Right-wing woman determined to crush crime: No wonder Priti Patel has had trouble in the Home Office

    23 November 2020 • 8:00am

    What an extraordinary row there has been over the alleged bullying of Home Office officials. I should own up to being a friend of Priti Patel, but it sounds to me as though those officials may not like being given orders by a woman. Even worse she ordered them to deal more firmly with the criminals on the streets and the trade in illegal immigration into the United Kingdom.

    I am sure that, if I had been Home Secretary, then I as a working class Thatcherite would have been treated in the same as was Priti Patel.

    I was saddened last week by the death of Lord Stoddart, the Labour member for Swindon from 1970 to 1983, who served his party both as a whip and spokesman on trade and industry in the Commons and in the Lords as a whip and spokesman on Energy until 1988.

    Stoddart then fell out with Labour over his support for Brexit, becoming the Chairman of the Campaign for Independent Britain in 1985, and sat on the Opposition back bench as an Independent Labour peer. From there he was often on his feet, full of good sense and sharp comment and I am but one of many who will be saddened that he did not live to celebrate Brexit Day. I, for one, will raise an extra glass of good English sparkling wine to his memory that day.

    Within the Labour Party, the row over anti-Semitism refuses to go away despite all that Sir Keir Starmer does to calm things down. His efforts are undermined by his record of support for Jeremy Corbyn at the last General Election and his apparent willingness to serve in a government led by Corbyn had Labour won.

    To my mind, and to many others, Labour’s attitude to anti-Semitism would look ambivalent if Corbyn continued to receive the Labour whip, but the Left and its paymasters in the major trades unions are demanding just that. The struggle will be a test of Starmer’s commitment to decent values.

    I was also both sorry and surprised that the Speaker of the House of Commons, Sir Lindsay Hoyle, allowed Boris Johnson to get away with answering Prime Minister’s Questions from his self isolation in No 10, rather than deputing a senior colleague to take his place. Will that now be the normal practice, I wonder, if the Prime Minister were to be in Washington or Moscow?

    There are few enough good things to have come out of the Covid pandemic, but one is that many of the parliamentary groups of members with particular interests have been able to persuade extremely busy scientists and other experts to come to virtual meetings which do not waste their time travelling to Westminster. It was at one such meeting recently that I learned a great deal about the nature and prospects of the several potential vaccines to defeat Covid-19.

    There are still great uncertainties, but at least there is a glimmer of hope that there may be an end to my self-imposed exile from Westminster early next year.

    No doubt sportsmen and women devoutly share that hope of an end to the lockdowns. Without the income from ticket sales for live events, the viability of very many sports are being undermined. Even in the midst of Lewis Hamilton’s excitement and pride at his record-breaking run of Formula One Grand Prix wins, he must have some worries about the future of racing without live spectators.

    I first saw a Formula One race at Silverstone just over 70 years ago when the pre-war giants such as Fangio were being challenged by upstarts like Hawthorn and Moss and protective clothing was no more than a leather helmet and gloves. Rather a far call from the immaculate organisation of today, but the quality, skill and nerve of the drivers is just the same.

    Stirling Moss was rightly awarded a knighthood in recognition of his career and I hope that those who arrange such matters will not hesitate to recognise the unsurpassed achievements of Hamilton, with a similar award in the New Year’s Honours List.”

    1. Oh dear, dementia I fear.

       1. Worse, a Formula 1 fan.

          1. F1, at its best, is a great contest between brilliant drivers and their very similar cars. Pour huge sums of money into it and it becomes a boringly predictable procession. Put into one of those cars a holier-than-thou, hypocritical tax exile who has the social skills of a gnat and you get what we have today.

             The tidiest sock drawers in history.

             1. I don’t recall Sir Jackie Stewart being called a hypocritical tax exile when he went to live in Switzerland for tax reasons 52 years ago.

             2. I wouldn’t know.

             3. He probably didn’t tell the British how much he hated them on the way.

          2. Formula 1 has morphed into a giant sized Scalextrix track.

             1. Without the fun.

             2. The funniest car race is the one in Vile Bodies.

             3. Did they Waugh around the track?

             4. Precisely, at least with Scalextrix the cars could fly off the track and wind up in either the goldfish bowl or else the aquarium.

             5. Depending on which one you were aiming for. Especially if you’d ramped up sections.

    2. Offer it.

       If he accepts, announce that he was offered it and accepted.

       Then withdraw the offer and brand him a hypocrite.

       What’s he gonna do, refuse to race in the UK?

       1. How can you get excited by watching a bunch of Uber drivers going round and round a one-way-street and never stopping to pick up a passenger or deliver a parcel. They should have it two way traffic at least.

          1. A figure of 8 track might help.

             1. With no traffic lights at the junction.

          2. The only Grand Prix race I ever attended was one long round of noise with virtually no over-taking.
             The highlight was a shunt where the spectators climbed over the barriers to collect debris as a souvenir.
             Yawn? Not even worth one of those.

             1. The only racing I enjoyed was a couple of days at Brands Hatch, watching Barry Sheene marbelise the opposition.

    3. I suspect (but hope I’m wrong) that many of us won’t live to celebrate “Brexit Day” because Bojo will employ sleight of hand to keep us in while telling us we’ve actually left (but we’re still paying, still have to obey the edicts, don’t get to keep our fish and are subject to the ECJ).

    4. I think it was ‘Chingford Skinhead’. The polecat reference came later but I have forgotten by whom, probably Michael Foot or John Smith, the only Labour leaders with a turn of phrase as it were.

       ‘Semi-house trained polecat’ from failing memory.

       1. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f9e5b3b6f3af21387590667e3c30db568af99a0110067c068c0ef36b4cec4e7c.png

          1. Thank you Grizz. I still have some recall of sorts thank God, in this increasingly mad world.

       2. You is rite.
          I blame a housework day.

          1. You are forgiven. You hit half the nail on the head, which is more than most and lost on the others.

             1. Oh, Cori, I certainly get it!

74. Re vaccines for the virus.

    If you were truly a Greenie what would be the best thing for the planet?

    To kill as many humans as you possibly can before you’re found out.

    1. Forget climate change; look after wildllife and deal with plastic pollution. Educate girls in the poorest countries with high birthrates.

       1. Yes, but killing 5 billion humans would make your proposals redundant to a true Green.

       2. I agree. Also there should be a concentration of effort on capturing or reducing the pollution of coal, oil and gas powered energy as well as investment in home built nuclear power.
          Population is the largest problem though.

          1. Have a word with yer Chinese – I am sure they have it all under control…{:¬))

          2. Population is the only problem.

             If the planet’s population had remained at the level it was when I was born — 2·5billion, it has tripled within my lifetime — then most of the world’s energy problems of today would never have materialised.

             1. And probably almost every single one of them would be living at Western standards at the equivalent of the early fifties too.

                If not better.

       3. Oh, J, you won’t like my solutions.

    2. Yep, Sos, the planet’s biggest problem is over population. A couple of Nukes in the Middle East and a few in Africa wouldn’t go amiss. Much more economical and quicker than Globalisation. Then, let’s have a look at China.

       I told you that I should be World Leader.

    3. Years ago when they first came on the scene, one of the manifesto plans was to reduce the population of England from 54 million to 27 million.

       Didn’t really catch on.

       1. They’ve upped their game.

75. That’s me for this chilly but sunny day. Should be warmer tomorrow. Why is there not ONE decent, honest MP who can “speak for England”?

    I’ll leave you with this snap of two heavy kittens – they have almost doubled in weight in the 28 days (seems longer!!) that they hae been with us and have taken over our lives. Bit like HMG, really!!

    A demain

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9178e9d2b817189a6113aa0b5a981aa085e5e1445d6c3acdc594ad995e172c02.jpg

    1. What little beauties Bill.

       Please be careful , and don’t get scratched though ..Stay warm .

       1. Their latest trick was to steal the MR’s face mask from her handbag…..

    2. How do you tell them one from t’other? No doubt as the proud kitty parents you don’t have a problem, but they do look identically identical! The kitten in your left hand looks the bolder of the two. They are lovely. I have just noticed that the ‘M’ (for Mouser) over the forehead of the one on the right is slightly different from the one on the left.

       1. The one on the left (as you look) is Gus. He is definitely brighter. Pickles (on the left) is a bit bigger and ridiculously lovable!

          But we still make mistakes when picking them up!!

    3. Adorable.

       The kittens aren’t bad looking either. Next time don’t hold them by their necks. Stick them on your shoulders. They’ll keep your ears warm !

76. Johnson and his cohort of fellow travellers is fast destroying the rule of law in this country.

    To obey the law, you have to respect it. And there is nothing to respect in this tsunami of pointlessly contradictory, 6th Form Common Room edicts.

    1. It seems most having been educated at Eton turn out to be craven idiots. Something in the water perhaps, or the baked beans.

       Edit: Many years ago I worked on several projects at Queen’s College Taunton, a sort of Methodist public school. There I saw the largest can of baked beans imaginable. It was the size of an oil drum. Hence my reference to baked beans simply because it had such an effect on me that I imagined all public schoolboys were fed the same.

       Edit: Cameron was a fart and so is Johnson.

       Beanz means farzz.

77. https://www.meteorwatch.org/iss-international-space-station-times-uk-november-2020/#more-9643

    November times for ISS sightings to be seen passing overhead.

    We had a lovely view this evening .. Sky was so clear and the ISS fast, it passed in front of the moon . coming from the South West .

    1. As I post this it is near New Zealand. It doesn’t hang about.

       1. So amazing isn’t it , have you seen it recently?

          1. Too cloudy here – and for the next week or so.

             1. Here is where, Ped?

             2. Brittany.

             3. Brittany.

             4. The answer is to drink more T.

                }:-))

             5. Discus threw a wobbly. The Bretons think there is only one ‘t’ in Brittany.

             6. Loved the discus threw!

                10/10, and you are Al Oerter.

                And I would claim my free Timanoix, but we have Trappe Échourgnac.
                };-O

             7. You’re not getting any reward – hard cheese!

             8. Easy for you to say.

                Brittany does not produce any half decent hard cheeses that I can recall!

             9. When I go shopping (usually in Leclerc) I am confronted with shelves holding 200 or more cheeses. I have a friend/acquaintance who produces his own cheese within 3 or 4 miles of the town but I can never find it on the shelf. I usually end up buying English mature Cheddar.

             10. Our LeClerc is similar, lots and lots of different cheeses on the dairy shelves, let alone the dedicated cheese counter, which is roughly the equivalent of an entire aisle in the UK.

                 Amazingly, Grand Frais is even better!

                 I’ve always been impressed by the way that the LeClerc managers, and for that matter other supermarkets here, appear to have free rein to buy local produce. We get fresh foods in the supermarket shown down to commune level here.
                 I’m certain it must be good for the local economy and the quality is superb.

             11. My local Leclerc just grew and grew and grew. I don’t even get to see all the shelves and departments now. It would take too long.

             12. It’s similar here.

                 It’s actually a great shame, because the site opened with the supermarket and lots of smaller outlets.

                 The supermarket then sold what the other outlets were selling, but cheaper, and so they closed one by one.

                 Now walking into the store one passes a lot of shuttered up outlets. I think it’s short-sighted, but hey ho.

       2. 300 miles a minute….

          1. I used to work with military reconnaissance drones which achieved 460 MPH in 1.8 seconds (one point eight seconds) from launch. I used to think that was fast.

78. Australia is reckoning with its war crimes allegations. Now the UK must step up. 23 November 2020.

    Last week’s publication of Australia’s Brereton report was a fascinating insight into the culture and practice of what appears to be a seriously defective and deviant organisation, the Australian SAS. In Australia, this has been a shattering wake-up call for the armed forces. Here in the UK, the strangely timely announcement of vast defence budget increases rendered it a one-day story. A defence spokesman said today that the report “does not affect or implicate British personnel”. This is entirely untrue: the Australian report very much affects and implicates British personnel, albeit not directly.

    You will often hear two lines of defence concerning these crimes. The first is a variation of “you can never understand what we have to go through”. This is entirely specious: the overwhelming majority of British combat soldiers manage to fight professionally without giving in to the temptation to shoot prisoners, slit the throats of unarmed boys or casually kill farm workers, all of which are alleged in the Brereton report. In any event, Brereton is very specific and clear: none of these crimes were committed in the heat of battle. Murders took place after raids or shootouts. The victims were all unarmed.

    This is guilt by wishful thinking. How can a report about Australian troops impact on British personnel in any form whatsoever? Does it roll over onto the US? Spetsnatz? ISIS? The second paragraph is even worse where the author seems to think that the Brereton Report was actually about UK forces. If Ledwidge knows something about such instances then he should inform the authorities instead of making specious accusations in National Newspapers!

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/nov/23/australia-war-crimes-allegations-uk-brereton-report-special-forces-afghanistan-british-personnel

79. This in the Guardian – it must have stuck in their craws to admit a positive for Brexit ( with a bit of help from Covid )

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/nov/23/covid-and-brexit-could-see-uk-manufacturers-bringing-it-all-back-home

    1. Aren’t a lot of these clothing factories in Leicester – sweatshops? They might have to pay them more than they do in Bangladesh.

       1. Modern day slavery, operated by bames. Yer Grauniad never talks about that….

       2. My guess is that these are subsidised in the sense that the workers are also drawing Benefits. This is the only way it makes sense!

       3. This is what makes it doubly amusing , the Guardian championing known slavery in the UK

          1. Ah, but it isn’t whitey doing it, so that’s okay.

             1. Oh! you old cynic!

       4. A prog on these very sweatshops in Leicester back streets was shown many many years ago. A lot of the workers were here illegally so dare not complain as they were under threat of being handed over to the authorities. Seems nothing much has changed. . . . Nothing was done then . . And I doubt it will now.

80. https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/ian-blackford-polices-the-border

    Ian Blackford polices the border

    Steerpike23 November 2020, 5:30pm

    Ian Blackford polices the border

    In case you missed the memo, it’s now illegal to cross the border to Scotland unless you have a ‘reasonable excuse’ that meets the First Minister’s requirements. Nicola Sturgeon’s new law – which limits the number of people who can travel from England to Scotland – is said to be aimed at protecting public health north of the border.

    Luckily Sturgeon has her close allies on standby to support her in policing this new restriction. Step forward Ian Blackford. The SNP’s leader in Westminster is so devoted to the cause that he has even taken to social media to look out for those who may have fallen foul. After a man posted a picture of Caithness, Blackford quickly sprung to action pointing out the individual lived in England and asking them to explain their actions.

    With Blackford on the case, who needs the police?

    1. Possible conversation:-
       Blackford: “How did you take the photo, if you live in England and weren’t supposed to be in Scotland?”
       Photographer: “Drone”.
       Blackford: “You used a drone? How could you operate it remotely from so far away?”
       Photographer: “No, by ‘drone’ I was referring to the sound of your voice”.

    2. Perhaps we should prevent Blackford and his ilk from travelling to England. With the amount of hot air and projection aerosol virus he emits it would not be a moment too soon.

       1. Yep, it cuts both ways.

81. https://twitter.com/GerardBattenUK/status/1330868552522403843

    1. I suspect that this might well be fake news.

       It’s easier to track the ISS than Soros.
       .

       1. Searches suggest it’s fake.
          Pity.

          1. One can only hope that he will eventually get his comeuppance.
             I won’t hold my breath

             1. People like that never do. It is the endless available cash to pay people off.

             2. It also turned up a lot of connections between Soros and Thunderbug…

    2. They wouldn’t dare touch him.

    3. The funniest thing about this is that earlier today Corim replied to my Guardian link saying, “nobody but a prize fool would believe the ‘fact checking’ of the BBC”, yet here we are with the former head of UKIP posting this utter garbage!

       1. My initial reply was referencing a link you provided to the BBC. I later suggested in response to one of your comments referencing a link to the Guardian that the Guardian was as unreliable as the BBC in the truth stakes.

          I have nothing to say about Batten or his posts. Some of the references are wacky, that is all.

          I stand by my comments about this new invention of ‘fact checking’ journalese. Most if not all of the journos from the BBC and Guardian would not recognise the Truth if it was handed to them on tablets by Solomon.

          1. I appreciate that you don’t like the politics of the Guardian or what you perceive to be the BBC’s politics, however, that doesn’t mean that their respective reporting of news isn’t accurate. The ‘MSM’ as it is derisively labelled here actually makes considerable effort to check sources, unlike Batten or the whacky sites he loves to give free publicity to.

             1. Keep on believing. Many of us do not trust any of the MSM cabal.

             2. So what news sites do you believe?

             3. None referenced by you if you must know.

             4. No problem, but I’m interested to understand which you would recommend.

             5. Take a look at American Thinker but be warned: you will not like what you read. Many alternative opinions have been referenced on this site so scroll back and check them out.

             6. Will do, thanks for the recommendation.

             7. Try PressTV. It’s an Iranian site that covered all the Jillet Jaunes protests which the BBC considered not to be news.

             8. Thank you. Are the female presenters as attractive as most Iranian women?

             9. That is an interesting site, I cannot seemany any of their articles reaching the msm.

                The article on disappearing votes makes me wonder why Trumps minions have not shown that kind of information. If it is valid (sorry, I am still doubtful), there is enough to blow Biden off into lala land.

             10. That Trump and his people have not even attempted to use something which would be in their favour does suggest (very loudly I would say) that it isn’t valid. After all most of what they have tried to use wasn’t valid.

             11. His team have presented the evidence. No judgement has been made yet. Hang on to your broomstick.

             12. I’ve noticed the Guardian often only reports part of a story so the whole picture isn’t clear.

                 For example, I found a report of Tony Blair selling George Soros 750 government buildings at a low price in 2000, but tney didn’t say that Blair had met with Soros in New York in 1996. Soros immediately sold the buildings for a massive profit.

                 So nobody was made aware of their previous relationship.. and what it entailed.

                 The New York meeting looks likely to be a trade of funding for policy, and the buildings sale the payback.

                 Exactly the same sort of thing as subsequently happened between Soros and Obama.

                 Not that anyone would realize that from the Guardian.

             13. “… that doesn’t mean that their respective reporting of news isn’t accurate.”

                 By making that statement you’ve identified yourself as a complete idiot, taken in by the machinations of the MSM and their fake news.

                 Shall I downvote myself?

             14. No need. Jenny has.

             15. Oh JenniferSP, do you seriously think a downvote equals a debatable riposte?

             16. It’s now too late to enter into such a debate but I think you lost not only the argument but also the plot. Good night.

             17. It was an accident. Her talon slipped.

             18. No, but it’s always interesting to see who upvotes nonsensical replies like yours and guess what, the Disloyal Barmaid who is always ready to stand up for the UK’s enemies, but never the UK.

    4. And that wouldn’t have been picked up by the right wing press? Oh come on.

       It might be a good idea if it happened though, that man seems to have influence beyond reasonable.

    5. Hope springs eternal.

    6. I think the SAS or the SBS would be more effective – take out the rellies as well.

82. A letter in the Times seems to advocate a dose of common sense, something that is becoming so rare that it will soon be extinct!

    Sir, You report that the BBC’s new director-general intends to secure a workforce that is 50 per cent female, at least 20 per cent black, Asian and minority ethnic, and 12 per cent disabled (“White men’s control of the news agenda must end, says BBC boss”, Nov 20). Would it be out of order to ask what proportion of places is to be reserved for the cleverest, the most able and those judged most suitable for the job?
    JR Maddicott
    Kidlington, Oxon

    Given that 86% of the BBC’s recruitment advertising budget is spent on the Guardian, dare I suggest that ‘clever’, ‘able’ and ‘suitable’ are unlikely to be among the adjectives that would best describe recruits from that source? In order to attract such people, the BBC would have to find a newspaper that is not ‘woke’ that does not support the far left and that actually admires the ‘British’ part of the Broadcasting Corporation – but that is something else that is almost extinct!

83. Tom needs to have a word with his stepfather?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/tomparkerbowles/status/1330911719233884160

    1. Tom might as well attempt a conversation with his stepfather’s tulips. His stepfather is a deluded climate change activist, albeit driving a Bentley and travelling to Davos on a Lear Jet (or an RAF aircraft funded by us taxpayers).

       1. I think they make him feel important in Davos. Useful idiot!

          1. Precisely. He is an irrelevance. An accident of history.

             Edit: When I was told by my late father in law (Corpus Christi) that he was to be tutored and overseen at Cambridge by Glyn Daniel I retained hope that he would be a good one. Alas, he has proven to be a bad one.

             Edit: Big ears but unreceptive.

84. Good grief! I’d forgotten about this lot:-
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/bobsworkshots/collections/

    https://flic.kr/s/aHsjwz4cuM

    1. I’ll have to look through them later, Bob. I was the local bobby at Barrow Hill in the early 80s and a regular tea spot was the sheds and roundhouse.

    2. Five bridges cross the Tyne ….

       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56-3Lv4W2MI

85. According to BBC, Quantas will require a vaccination certificate before you can fly internationally.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-55048438

    1. To think, we used to feel sorry for citizens of fascist or communist countries who couldn’t travel freely.

       1. How we used to laugh at the poor citizens of East Germany who had a choice of just one car, the Trabant. Our poor will have a super choice of busses.

    2. I think that it is going to a case of get used to it. Our Ontario schools have a no vaccination, stay home policy and that is accepted by all but a very few.

       It will only be a few months until most airlines, hotels and resorts pop up with no vaccination, no service rules. There a reports in our press that the Chinese are proposing that every one is assigned a unique ID to enable efficient travel, not long until we all get tattooed across the forehead.

    3. They will be out of business then.

       1. No they won’t! And I don’t blame them.

          1. Well you would say that wouldn’t you.

       2. https://mobile.twitter.com/UKTwinds/status/1330927922362933250

          1. Good spot!

    4. I remember back in the 70’s having to have a smallpox vaccination certificate in my passport before flying to US. So I don’t think there’s much new about that idea.

       1. There isn’t. Many states in the US won’t allow children to attend school if they haven’t had all their “shots”. Not even when the child has a complex medical situation which means that some or all of them are contra-indicated.

          A friend turned down the offer of a very good job in the US because of that, his daughter (then a small child) had a lot of auto-immune problems. The irony was that the senior medic who offered him the job was the same one who had succeeded in diagnosing the child’s problems and who had said “don’t vaccinate”.

       2. No… but do you trust the Covid vaccine?

          1. No, I don’t, not yet!! I am a great believer in letting the ‘bugs’ in computers, cars etc. get ironed out and fixed so that I know more.

    5. Oh well, I guess I never will see Australia now. But this vaccine pass stuff is going to be very difficult for those of us with family in other countries.

86. Just going to pass this little story onto you all , ok?

    “My wife and I decided to take an organised coach trip to Afghanistan to see for ourselves what the place was like.
    It didn’t start well when the coach we where travelling on broke down a few miles east of the capital.
    We were stranded in a third world dump with streets full of angry bearded types glaring at us; the wife stood out in her brightly coloured sundress as all other women had head to toe burqas.
    We were extremely scared and convinced that we were in deep trouble.
    Just then, Dave the organiser, suddenly remembered that Bethnal Green had a tube station, so we were able to get safely to King’s Cross and on to Heathrow for the rest of our journey…..”

    1. It was pretty much like that when I changed buses at Elephant & Castle in 2011. It’s when I first realised I lived in a third world country.

       1. a few years ago we were in Belgium and walked from the Eurostar terminal into the centre of Brussels, that was the same oh god where are we feeling.

87. I open today with one simple thought: those like Soros, the folks at

    Davos, Globalist business, neocon diplomats and senior military have all

    spent the last twenty years, directly and indirectly, bombing economies

    into rubble, depriving Western labour of jobs, exploiting Third World

    workers, developing robotisation to kill yet more jobs, and developing

    inter-bank trading that created unreal accountancy money to destroy the

    value of paper money.

    They have made you work longer hours for less money, dumbed down your

    kids’ education, removed most of your employment rights, lied to you

    about employment levels and inflation rates, corrupted the police, the

    judiciary, the media and the politicians….and used tactics in the last

    six months removing your right to freedom of travel, association, free

    speech and every form of social conviviality.

    So in the light of this less than glowing track-record, why do so

    many of us swallow the idea that global pharmaceutical combines’ sole

    motivation is, suddenly, to heal the sick without any ulterior motive?

    https://therealslog.com/2020/11/23/would-they-lie-to-us/
    Chilling……………..

    1. Apart from that, Mrs Lincoln, did you enjoy the show?

88. Perhaps this won’t be appreciated on here because it is off topic, but it is so tender and cute , no not puppy dogs or pussy cats … but a child!

    Sound on!

    https://twitter.com/TheSun/status/1330622080107233281

    1. Don’t do children, T_B 🙂

    2. That is so touching, Maggie. Thanks so much for posting.

    3. Adorable!

89. It’s just to flatten the curve.
    It’s just 3 weeks.
    It’s just a mask.
    It’s just Christmas.
    It’s just a vaccine.
    It’s just a health passport.
    It’s just a microchip.

    It’s just a shower.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/72382b915f000f027d080d6cec2b53b51116fd9a4b7c9f2e673cf78334b1c290.jpg

    1. “… flatten the curve.”

       I much prefer Bojo’s analogy: “sitting on the Sombrero” …

90. I’m watching “Is Covid Racist”. Not like me to watch Channel 4, and this is reminding me why.
    Excuse me while I scream at the TV.

    1. We just watched the Michael Palin programme that was on on BBC4 last Sauirday. He was in Bolivia and Peru. We were there in 2005.

       1. I like Michael Palin , sadly this evening is being ruined by football. I really wanted to see what Nigella was cooking .

          1. Can’t you watch it on catch-up, T_B?

          2. Anything will be ruined by football, TB. A deeply tedious pastime.

             1. Watched by deeply tedious people.

    2. I saw it in the listings and decided to give it a miss. Easier on the BP! Did you do yesterday’s quiz?

       1. I didnt have time this week.
          How have you been getting on? I haven’t managed to get into the top three for a while. I wish they would publish all the placings.

          1. I agree, a comprehensive list of teams/scores would be interesting. We won this week.

             1. Wow, well done.
                I’ll have to up my game.

    3. I can’t watch anything , I have even missed Nigella. the TV is being hogged by live streaming from Mohs laptop . Son and he are watching Southampton play some other team .. So I am tolerating prima donna husband and his shrieks , and the dogs squabbling over a ball .

       The tension is horrible!

       1. I sympathise.

       2. Football? Yaaawwn.

       3. Switch off. Let them make their own Horlicks or whatever.

       4. Go to your own laptop, Mags, search and watch what you want. Bu55er Wendyball – it’s for gurls.

91. HAPPY HOUR – Lockdown my @rse more like Lockup..

    From ‘covidiots’ to ‘quarantine and chill’, the pandemic has led to many terms that help people laugh and commiserate. Lexicologists are scrambling to keep up with the changes the pandemic has wrought.

    NoTTlers have you a favourite pandemic word?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d7408400cf9de255bb3a788d7fe40e36f31acc6ce53623ca503952ac25449bae.jpg

    1. Clap.

    2. Covid-fatigue……..fed up to the back teeth of it. Give us our life back!

    3. Scamdemic.
       Coronapanic

    4. ‘Latest predictions …….’

       1. Aka looking at the crystal ball (whose, I leave to your imagination).

    5. Those who impose ‘lockdown’ need to be locked up.

    6. Following the science

       1. A great man foresaw that science wasn’t always for good or merely benign. His words from 1940 are relevant to today’s attack on our lives and liberties.

          …may be free and the life of the world may move forward into broad,sunlit uplands. But if we fail, then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science.

          WSC

    7. Whitless (from Prof Whitty). Second – ‘experts’.

       ‘Favourite’ phrase – flatten the curve. Real meaning – lock us all up and trash the economy (and our futures) to not save 50k people, 90% who would’ve dies over the year anyway (the 10% the next year, the rest just unlucky), handing our collective a$$es to the Chinese and mutlinationals.

       1. Cue article in my local rag, “The UK is heading for a double-dip recession”. You don’t say?! What could possibly have caused that?

       2. Flatten the sombrero?

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzXFUowtFZM

    8. Whitless (from Prof Whitty). Second – ‘experts’.

       ‘Favourite’ phrase – flatten the curve. Real meaning – lock us all up and trash the economy (and our futures) to not save 50k people, 90% who would’ve dies over the year anyway (the 10% the next year, the rest just unlucky), handing our collective a$$es to the Chinese and mutlinationals.

    9. Sheeple

       1. That’s Ovid-19.

          1. My favourite.

    10. Antivax.

    11. Essential.

    12. Racist virus!

    13. sciencearrhea …

    14. Bat clap.
        Gob rag.

    15. ‘Scenario’ and ‘projection’.

        Edit: and ‘following the science’ and ‘experts’.

    16. ‘New Normal’.
        Signed
        Eric Blair

92. Evening, all. The title headline could have been written by a Nottler. Yesterday I mentioned that my horse isn’t being sent far north, but has been entered for races much closer to home and I might apply for a badge to see him run. Some chance! As the racecourse is in Wales, only owners with a Welsh address can apply! I don’t know which is worse; not being able to go because it’s so far away, or not being allowed to go to my nearest racecourse because I’m two miles at most the wrong side of the border 🙁

93. Goodnight, all.

    1. Night Conway. Just waiting for the bells at midnight.

94. Someone apart from Katie Hopkins should remind Johnson, Hancock and the rest of this useless government that they are there to act on our instruction, not the other way around.

    The flood of plainly stupid and dare I say frivolous pronouncements coming thick and fast from Fataturk, the spud with a wig, are now pointless. Nobody believes a word he says, his scientific advisors are both corrupt and inept and their spin a tissue of Soros and Gates funded lies.

    We should all just ignore them and their malevolent directions seeking to control what we may or not do in our own homes. The cheek of it.

    1. 326730+ up ticks,
       Evening C,
       The only change has been for the worst since major had a curry, all the politico’s will settle back into place a week ( forget time)
       before the next General Election.

    2. Both advisors have links to big pharma. One of them ( I can’t remember which) has £20,000 of shares in a pharma company.

       1. I now reckon Whitty and Vallance have much more invested in Astra Zeneca and Glaxo Smith Kline than anyone imagines. The sums are enormous and the future rewards, as this incompetent government insists on vaccination certificates, will make both of of these greasy skunks multi millionaires.

          We need collectively to stop this deception in its tracks before they totally wreck our economy.

    3. “Fataturk”
       perfect

       1. I borrowed the expression, at least I may have done. Of course Attaturk was a sensible and good man, unlike the fat Turk supposedly governing us but actually simply enriching himself.

95. Coming to a hospital near you:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8978525/Doctors-ask-people-vulnerable-covid-sign-not-resuscitate-orders-Switzerland.html

    1. For the greater good.

       1. Greater love hath no man?

          1. than for a pint of Sam Smith’s Old Brewery Bitter?

             1. Done that tour, and I loved it, so you may be correct.

             2. Had a cask to celebrate the end of a charity canal swim. We covered, in relays, about 40 miles… great party, the beer was in top condition (had been on a stillage for 3 days, wrapped in wet teacloths)… I can taste it now!

             3. Could one do widths?

             4. Of beer? Of course!
                ’twas a bloody long way. In diving gear (no air bottles, just suits, weights, mask and snorkels) – I took a moment to unblock a lock gate so a wide cruiser could get through – there was a brick jamming the gate.

             5. One of my favourite beers.

                Even the Sam Smith’s pub on High Holborn in the early 1980’s, when I drank there, was able to sell it in great condition. I think it was the CIty of York but with a strange spelling.

                EDIT checked as Cittie of Yorke.

             6. One of my favourite beers.

                Even the Sam Smith’s pub on High Holborn in the early 1980’s, when I drank there, was able to sell it in great condition. I think it was the CIty of York but with a strange spelling.

                EDIT checked as Cittie of Yorke.

             7. Had a cask to celebrate the end of a charity canal swim. We covered, in relays, about 40 miles… great party, the beer was in top condition (had been on a stillage for 3 days, wrapped in wet teacloths)… I can taste it now!

    2. Tut, typical Swiss softies.
       In Blighty the care home managers sign them.

96. But he’s forgotten the oubliette (see what I did there?) at the bottom of the stairs.

    https://static.standard.co.uk/2020/11/23/11/ADAMS20201123-1.jpg?crop=493:329,smart&width=640

97. NHS workers from overseas talking about how they send so much money home to support their families.
    It would be interesting to know how much of the national wealth is lost in this way. It should be counted as part of the Oveseas Aid budget.

    1. Interesting also to find out what percentage of the NHS are staff from overseas and how many are BAME?

       1. It is a very high percentage among nurses and doctors. Support services, (radiography, pharmacy, admin, porters, medical engineering etc) not so high.

       2. …and, as a result of being BAME, are catching (and dying from WuFlu) and becoming victims just because they’re BAME. Victims R us.

    2. Until the illegal immigration rubber dinghy Channel service is finished all money spent on accommodating the migrants must come out of overseas aid.

       1. Should i downvote you now to save Jenny repetitive strain injury or should we let her suffer?

          *asking for a friend…

    3. Benefits paid and also wages to workers are sent ‘home’ in the millions. One can understand someone sending money home to support their family but then we hear a cry of poverty. Bureau de Change are nothing more than money launderers.

98. Good morning all – Tuesday’s new page is here.

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