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MoRning GG
Good Morning GG and Nottlers
Today's Tales – Lawyers and Judges (apologies to Bill T)
The lawyer went into the doctorâs surgery with a frog on his head.
âThatâs a nasty looking growth,â said the doctor.
âIâll say it is,â said the frog. âIt started out as a pimple on my arse.â
Whatâs the difference between a prostitute and a lawyer?
Not much, except a prostitute will stop screwing you once youâre dead.
âIâm in deep financial trouble and need some advice,â said the client to his lawyer. âIâm down to my last hundred pounds and want to know if you can answer Just two questions for that amount.â
âCertainly sir,â said the lawyer, âwhatâs the second question?â
A new law says that solicitors and barristers must be buried in holes forty feet deep.
Deep down, they are good people.
Good morning, rough common. I had a good chuckle over this morning's funnies, and I guess that Bill T will have had a good chuckle too.
In the third one, that was a statement not a question.
Morning everyone.
Good Morning All. 12C broken cloud.
Morning Johnny, even dreicher than yesterday
https://x.com/MattGubba/status/1850664459443818734
And price rises pushing up inflation and potentially interest rates.
Labour governments always shoot themselves in the foot.
They don't do a lot for us plebs, either.
A good response to a query on that post:-
https://x.com/MattGubba/status/1850672831442366840
Good morning, chums. And thanks, Geoff, for today's NoTTLe page.
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Good Morning Folks,
Cloudy start here
Good morning all ,
Dog demanded to be let out into the garden at 05.30.. and then when he was let out, he barked and barked .. hedgehogs scuttling around .
13c , no rain and I still have that exhausting cough.
https://twitter.com/HeartsofOakUK/status/1850509551143157933
Excellent footage!
Why on earth we dont just leave the time on GMT is unbelivable.
I thought I was on the ball yesterday in resetting all the clocks.
Then I noticed the cooker and the microwave this morning
Morning Bob. I've set the microwave two minutes fast. It's driving me crazy.
How do you 'set' a microwave? They are a piece of invisible radiation!đ€
Morning Grizz. They have clocks.
Morning, Araminta. đ
I was just taking the Mick out of how people have, now routinely, abbreviated the term ‘microwave oven‘ to just its first word.
I personally find it amusing since a ‘microwave’ is nothing more than an invisible piece of radiation.
My father used to insist as children that we said "motor car" and "aeroplane" instead of just "car" and "plane", but he was fighting a losing battle I think. It's the incomprehensible acronyms which get to me. For example do you know what FOMO means? It apparently means Fear Of Missing Out.
I saw one recently that apparently vets use – AMITO [Animal More Intelligent Than Owner]!
Doctors at Sheffield Teaching Hospitals have routinely written TAPS on the notes of certain patients for decades.
Doctors at Sheffield Teaching Hospitals have routinely written TAPS on the notes of certain patients for decades.
Is that why two tier kier got rid of Larry?
My father used to insist as children that we said "motor car" and "aeroplane" instead of just "car" and "plane", but he was fighting a losing battle I think. It's the incomprehensible acronyms which get to me. For example do you know what FOMO means? It apparently means Fear Of Missing Out.
I still have to rest the cooker one. My car clock has been wrong since it had a new battery last February.
The clock in my car is right again Jules
Might just leave mine for a while.
Mine, too.
Leave them.
You'll only have to undo all that work in March.
I keep my microwave switched off unless I'm using it. There is no clock on my cooker.
We do it because they do it in the EU.
Germany started it in WW1
They started it in WWII as well, Johnny. But we were talking about changing the clocks. Lol. (Good morning, btw.)
We do it because our lot want to align us with the EU. Watch out for double summer time to match us with Bruxelles and Berlin.
14,000 teachers call in sick every day. 28 October 2024.
About 14,000 teachers in England called in sick every day last year, analysis has found.
Department for Education (DfE) data show that about 2.5 million school days were lost in 2022-23 as more than 326,000 teachers missed class owing to sickness.
Iâm surprised that anyone at all turns up. I wouldnât do the job for all the tea in China. Like everything else in the UK itâs been destroyed by Political Correctness.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/27/teachers-off-sick-education-uk/
And now the leader of the teachers' union has announced that the Zaba thug is somehow a victim. If that is the view of any teacher then it terrifies me to think that such a twisted view of right and wrong is being passed on to their tender and innocent young charges.
'Morning Geoff and Peeps. An infrequent visit to you all today on the pretence of doing a little domestic admin, but in reality I reckon I'm due a short break from the invasion of the grandchildren. After all, I need to look after my mentaw 'elf otherwise I'm at risk of becoming yet another victim – and we already have plenty of those, don't we?
Frankly, I'm not surprised. I struggled on when I should have called in sick. I wouldn't go near a classroom again if they offered me a king's ransom.
Labour have been closely associated with Wokism, Socialism, Communism and made climate changism over the years.
But now we need to add Pugilism
And a Good Morning to one and all.
The weather clouded over and we had rain overnight which has now stopped.
Daylight has dawned and it's 7°C on the Yard Thermometer.
Already shoved a load of jeans and trousers into the washing machine, drank my 1st mug of tea and am about to do my 2nd together with taking the Dearly Tolerant's tea and her bowl of Weetabix up stairs for her.
A trip to the scrappies to get the van-load of ferrous weighed in, hopefully I can drag Graduate Son out of bed to assist.
Labour Party confirm Mike Amesbury is cooperating with police, and facing a short period of suspension of membership of the party pending an brief investigation and dropping of any pending charges against the accused.
Pinched and posted BTL with slight editing:-
Our thoughts and prayers are with the family of Mr Amesbury. Safeguarding the health, safety and welfare of our MPs at work is of paramount importance and we strive to provide working environments which are safe and without risk to health.
The community of Runcorn will be appalled and want to reach out and help protect our safe spaces for Our Labours.
Labour has abandoned the working classes in its war against aspiration.
SIR â Everything Labour is doing, and everything that Labour is saying, reinforces the truth that it is not the friend of the working man (âWorkersâ taxes will rise, admits Chancellorâ, report, October 26).
Labour has always sought to keep people in the coal mines and dark satanic mills rather than help them to learn to build jet engines, finance companies and computers; always sought to keep them dependent on handouts rather than investing in their own homes and buying shares in the very companies which bring employment to the people without demanding subsidy from the state.
As ever, it is easy to be a socialist if, like Sir Keir Starmer, you are rich. My coal-mining grandfather only wanted three things: that his children did not have to be miners; that he could buy his own home and that he could leave that home to his children and theirs. The Labour Party is against all of that. It closed the grammar schools which allowed my grandadâs daughter, my mother, to break the cycle of âinto the factory at 15â and go to Durham University; it seeks to close the private schools to which she sent me, her son, because as a teacher in Labourâs comprehensives she saw the hopeless damage that socialist experiment did; and it seeks to punish people who try to invest in bricks and mortar.
The double tragedy today is that the Conservatives have lost sight of the fact that they are the true party of working-class aspiration. That is something Margaret Thatcher understood. It is time that the Conservative Party rediscovered that parroting socialist jargon and imitating socialist policies will never win back the traditional conservative â small âcâ â working-class man.
Victor Launert
Matlock Bath, Derbyshire
Simply the best letter of the year, Vic. As a regular commentator on the DT Letters Page, you often have clear and lucid thoughts on many topics, but today you have excelled.
Mrs N totaly agrees with you Griz as do I.
Thanks, John.
His name is Johnny, Grizzly. You can't complain that a microwave is an invisible piece of radiation and then pretend that Johnny is just an American term for the toilet. Lol. (Good morning, btw.)
Good morning, Auntie Elsie.
On the topic of American terms, just yesterday I watched a classic, Oscar-winning, black-and-white American film from 1950. All About Eve was an utter joy to watch. Not just for the excellent writing, and top cast; I enjoyed it mostly for the fact that the American cast of actors were all speaking proper English.
Their diction was clear, though still obviously with an American accent, but it was completely free of all the modern affectations and slang jargon, which permeates the speech of every present-day Yank. It is how I remember Americans speaking, well before their language deteriorated (devolved) into jibberish.
John is an American term for a toilet.
Johnny is a British term for one of the products of the London Rubber Company.
'Morning Grizz and JN. Yes, this letter almost jumped off the page – outstanding, isn't it? It really is a very good summary of the socialist mindset, the only omission being any reference to the envy and spite it displays when, every few years – thanks to the ignorance on the part of the electorate – it sets about dismantling anything remotely capitalist in all but the lives of the exponents of socialism. 'You've got it and I want it; And when I get it you can't have it'. The outstretched, grasping hand on the part of our nasty little on-the-take pigmy-brained Prime Minister, proves the point a thousand times over.
Morning, Hugh. Indeed. You have encapsulated the essence of greedy socialism.
Our thoughts and prayers are with the family of Mr Amesbury. Safeguarding the health, safety and welfare of our MPs at work is of paramount importance and we strive to provide working environments which are safe and without risk to health.
The community of Runcorn will be appalled and want to reach out and help protect our safe spaces for Our Labours.
Labour has abandoned the working classes in its war against aspiration
Not just Labour, we have been heading in that direction ever since they deposed Thatcher.
The establishment classes have always cut off any avenue for the lower classes to move up the ladder whereby they can gain wealth and the independence and choices that brings, for they lose control if they do., Labour are the worst by far.
395419+up ticks,
Morning Each,
Monday 28 October: Labour has abandoned the working classes in its war against aspiration
Even the most hard core lab/lib/con anti Brit. coalition voter can now plainly see that this coalition
are aspiring to achieve success in regards to the
WEF / NWO / RESET agenda.
They are and have been, sucking dry any remaining financial resources this nation has / had to finance
the road construction leading to RESET with the help of the peoples via the polling stations, also along the way robbing indigenous Peter to accommodate alien
foreign paul.
An example was seen tother day of the ruling class
( dear mike)chastising a resident and bringing him into line with the party needs.
I do believe that the inflatable boat / life jacket suppliers are in line for the, coming shortly, uniforms and knee length strutting boots,
They don't just want to make everyone equal in this country, they want to make us equal with everyone in the third world
This is what the great reset means
395419+up ticks,
Morning Each,
Monday 28 October: Labour has abandoned the working classes in its war against aspiration
Even the most hard core lab/lib/con anti Brit. coalition voter can now plainly see that this coalition
are aspiring to achieve success in regards to the
WEF / NWO / RESET agenda.
They are and have been, sucking dry any remaining financial resources this nation has / had to finance
the road construction leading to RESET with the help of the peoples via the polling stations, also along the way robbing indigenous Peter to accommodate alien
foreign paul.
An example was seen tother day of the ruling class
( dear mike)chastising a resident and bringing him into line with the party needs.
I do believe that the inflatable boat / life jacket suppliers are in line for the, coming shortly, uniforms and knee length strutting boots,
SIR â In census returns starting in 1845 and long before in church records, my ancestors are described as agricultural labourers and servants.
Historians describe the conditions they experienced. In those times, the laws of this land did very little to compensate for the miserable and very often cruel conditions they worked under, from the age of 12.
Future generations suffered. Not only that, but many of the people who prospered from my familyâs labour have descendants alive today who are still reaping the benefits.
I wonder if that means I might have a right to reparation from the British Government? Actually I do not think so. That was how it was then; I cannot blame the present Government for what happened. And I certainly cannot expect those who are taxpayers today to make reparation.
We cannot undo the past, however much we want to. Heartfelt regret and a desire to make amends by acting justly and generously in the present are all we can do. Cancelling debts seems like a good place to start for the descendants of slaves in the Commonwealth.
Irene Comer
Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Irene Comer has ruined her excellent letter by adding her last paragraph .
We owe no one nothing .
Reparations from the Normans please. That'll do for a start. They stole the whole land.
What did the Romans do for us?
You mean apart from introducing us to the man on the London omnibus, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, jeremy? Lol.
Ask Giorgia Meloni for reparations.
Go on âŠ. I dare you.
I'll watch from behind the sofa.
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Romanes eunt domus!
People called Romans, they go the house?
Why should these graspers have debts cancelled? They owe the British navy big-time for their efforts in getting slavery banned.
We owe them nothing.
They are better off than their countrymen still in West Africa in many cases.
To be fair, servants had a good existence compared to many others; they had regular meals and companionship and a secure job. They didn't get much time off, but often families not in service were near starving.
Good morning, everyone.
Morning, Delboy!
Good morning DB.
I hope you are feeling more comfortable, and your beloved wife has had her heart problem sorted out x
There is a book you might be interested in "Battle of Britain , Dorset" written by Rodney Legg.
I picked up a second hand copy for Moh because we live in the area here where many squadrons were based nearby here at Warmwell , and the history of the Battle of Britain is fading away.
Hi Maggie. Following my wife's heart attack and stent installation in February, they managed to shock her heart out of AF in June. This is often a temporary solution but it is working so far and she has been told to avoid any major exertion as this would tip the heart into AF. I bought a mobility chariot and she uses this to do the morning dog walk.
After three and a half months of chiropractic, sport massage and a chunk of money I have been transformed from a cripple to being able to walk a mile (bit slow at the end) so I can take the Springer out in the pm. The major wins are I am off all prescription pain killers and I will be playing bowls in April. Result!
That's good news DB! For both of you and I bet the Springer enjoys her walks now.
My OH had a cardioversion in January and so far that seems to have worked for him.
Brilliant news DB, in particular your pain and discomfort has been addressed and is now gradually improving , green bowls in the Spring is a good goal to look forward to .
Your dear wife , well , it is best she is careful now , but I am glad she can get out and about on her new go faster machine .. walking the dog takes on a different meaning !
Excellent news, Delboy! I hope Mrs Delboy can post such a positive result.
Thank you, Sir.
Being shocked out of A/F in 2002 I'm still alive, if not well. but, as Winston said, "Just KBO!"
I might look out for that. I have a wide collection of BoB books, but not that one.
âAfter years of searching for an NHS dentist, I finally found one in prison. I love it hereâ
From getting your teeth fixed to watching box sets on TV and avoiding unwanted phone calls â thereâs much to be said for prison life.
As Britain is gripped by a prisons crisis, The Telegraph is publishing dispatches from an inmate at a Category B jail â the second highest level of security â to discover what life is really like inside. Recently, the Independent Monitoring Board (IMB) found the jail to be chronically overcrowded and understaffed, with self-harm and drug use rife.
The inmate, a British professional and entrepreneur on the outside, is on remand awaiting trial charged with non-violent crimes which he denies. To protect his identity, he is not named. Other names and nicknames have been changed.
I have been a prisoner for six months and I like it here. Itâs not even an open prison, or an easy-going C-Cat [Category C prison]. The security is quite hardcore and some of my neighbours are looking at stiff sentences.
But I exercise daily, read abundantly, watch excellent box sets on TV, play chess at the weekends, eat a simple but sensible diet and, which I have relished above all, have had time to dust off and renew old pastimes like sketching and creative writing; even volleyball, which I have not played in earnest for more than 30 years, but enjoy tremendously.
My enjoyment of prison is, it must be said, relative: as is true for many prisoners, the criminal justice system has cost me a home, a job and my entire way of life on the outside.
Even so, I am reluctant to leave prison now, where I have made a handful of really quite good friends, as well as a wide range of memorable acquaintances. If found innocent, or not guilty enough, though, I might have to.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/28/the-secret-prisoner-why-i-like-jail/
EM
Edward Mackie
16 min ago
Is this a prison? I thought it was a review of a middle class wellbeing spa.
One wonders why our prisons are so full.
SIR â Many years ago, I went to Zurich for discussions with a Swiss company about a strategic alliance.
The managing director was serving a one-year sentence for a drink-related offence. The terms of his sentence were that he reported to prison every Friday night and worked mainly on the road. On Monday morning he was back with the company. He was in no doubt that he was being punished.
The benefits in his case were many. He was being punished without damage to his career or family life. Prison costs were much reduced.
Might such a policy be worth looking at here?
Mike Hare
Chipperfield, Hertfordshire
Misses the point. Most offenders in the UK are not managing directors with secure employment. It's a long story, but basically the de-industrialisation of the UK, combined with immigration and other government policies, has conspired to put the shutters down on those who were once able to live as manual workers.
Some might challenge that assertion, but offenders who are managing directors with secure employment may well not only get away with their criminality, they will get the nations they exploit to pay handsomely for it.
Any one who has been to an English public school will always feel comparatively at home in prison. It is the people brought up in the gay intimacy of the slums, Paul learned, who find prison so soul-destroying.
Decline and Fall (1928) Evelyn Waugh
Waugh also writes that Paul Pennyfeather's two weeks in solitary confinement were amongst the happiest days of his life!
Good morning, all. Grey and cheerless. Rain in the night, too.
Thousands of British Patriots Take to the Streets for the 'Uniting The Kingdom Rally'
Oh dear.. Richard Tice on GBNews: "I'm not aligning myself with Tommy Robinson's lot in any way."
That's it, the idiot has stuffed his luck.
The more the Reform Party trash Tommy Robinson the more support they will lose.
If Nigel Farage doesn't wake up to the fact he will never win the support he will need to form a government in the future.
The thinking is that TR is an old-fashioned Irish street brawler, looks as if he jumped from the football terraces and is eager for a scrap. Is he another Oswald Mosley though?
For all his unfortunate image, he has something to say and as much right to say it as anyone. Tice and Farage should not forget that if they hope to reform and unite a nation.
There would have been quite a few builders, plumbers and electricians in that crowd. You know what to do guys. Tice thinks you are right wing scum.
395419 + up ticks,
The current way of the leading political parties winning friends ( voters) and influencing peoples, I personally have reservations about it catching on, could be wrong, but it caught on in Berlin some time ago
https://x.com/maxtempers/status/1850150867044856234
From a different angle:-
https://x.com/garrypickles/status/1850629908562657556
And they call TR a thug!
Irony Alert..
[thump] I'll f**ckin ave you.. [thump] I'll f**ckin kill you.. [thump] you want some. [thump] [thump] [thump]..
Oh btw don't threaten me."
Irony Alert..
[thump] I'll f**ckin ave you.. [thump] I'll f**ckin kill you.. [thump] you want some. [thump] [thump] [thump]..
Oh btw don't threaten me."
Top candidate for Chief Whip.
395419+ up ticks,
Morning T5,
And knuckle-dusters.
A Starmtrooper?
395419+ up ticks,
Afternoon Anne,
like it.
Good day all,
Partly cloudy at Castle McPhee, wind South-West, 10â going up to 15â. A chance of light showers this afternoon.
Can you imagine the BBC/Grauniad melt-down if any politician with a serious chance of gaining office here even talked of a policy proposal such as this?
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/10/27/donald-trump-wont-abolish-income-tax-jd-vance-suggests/
It could easily be done. We'd just have to nationalise properly the bank of England, end the banksters' debt-financing scam and have the Treasury issue a sovereign currency backed by the wealth of the nation (estimated at > ÂŁ40Tn).
So I take my note (let's call it a Bradbury) to the Treasury and ask them to redeem it. What will they give me?
Nothing. But you'll have a medium of exchange, store of value and unit of account which represents a fraction of the wealth of the nation, that doesn't inflate (a hidden tax) and doesn't bear interest for banksters (serfdom or slavery). What will the bank of England give you now?
Shades of the Rentenmark.
Sod it! Caught SEND too early so I'll start again!
I like the clock change. Up at 06:30 GMT and I've washed a load of jeans, fed & watered the DT with her breakfast, put another load of washing on, folded a load of dry washing from the airers and taken to to the respective rooms and will be hanging the jeans up the garden, once I get dressed.
At what point do we stop converting the current time to what it would have been if the clocks hadn't changed?
Now?
Shurely, in one hour's time?
10? And donât call me Shirley!đ
In my case, when the clocks go forward again in March. I try to keep my daily pattern to summer time all the winter so that I don't lose an hour's daylight in the evening/late afternoon. I really hate the clocks going back and would be happy if we stayed on BST all year round.
I hate the clocks going forward and would be happy if we stayed on GMT all year round.
Whereas I really hate the clocks going forward and wish we stayed on GMT all year round. It makes me feel ill to live an hour ahead of my body clock time.
The change of one hour doesn't bother me at all, but I don't like the dark evenings or dark mornings.
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Never. I frequently curse the fact that under BST I am actually getting up an hour earlier than I would have under real time.
My goodness , you have been busy, Moh doesn't even know how to operate the washing machine .
The housemaid never has a day off .. she will be searching through pockets for dirty handkerchiefs to put into the machine for very hot wash.
Well, the DT decided she needed some fresh air so she went and hung the jeans up.
2nd load is about to finish so once that's up I'm dragging Grad.Son off to the scrappies.
Will need to detour via Hopton Arch as the road to Cromford is closed for work to be done.
Boil the dirty hankies in an old saucepan. The washing machine doesn't get hot enough.
Snot very hygenic
Just remember not to use that saucepan for the Boogernaise.
I only bother boiling them if we've had a cold, which has been infrequent since we started taking vit D & C every winter since 2020.
I have a dedicated saucepan for that task.
I read yesterday if you are taking Vit D.
Vitamin D3
Commonly used to improve bone health it is also used to boost the immune system, enhance mood and muscle function
One survey â by the Health Food Manufacturers' Association â revealed that 60 per cent of Brits take the supplement.
However Dr Medizade warns that most people aren't taking it properly, which could have dangerous consequences.
'There should be a warning label on supplements for this, but I would never take Vitamin D3 by itself,' she says.
'You always have to take vitamin D3 with K2 otherwise when your body absorbs calcium it will be deposited in all the wrong places.'
She explains that, instead of going to your bones, it'll likely go to your arteries.
This can cause calcification, a process in which calcium builds up in body tissue, causing the tissue to harden, and other long-term issue.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14002431/Im-pharmacist-three-supplements-youre-wasting-money-on.html
Don't know how true it is…
I do take K2 as well.
Morning All,
Free Speech has an article by Xandra H, an NHS psychologist, on the tricks that the government uses to manipulate the people into accepting the unacceptable, often involving a loss freedom, a process she calls âlegerdemainâ.
Secondly, we reproduce an open letter Clive Metalas sent to Tory MPs pointing out what he sees as the Islamic nature of the so-called âAsianâ grooming gangs. FSB does not agree with his central theory, but supports his freedom of expression and his view that this is too important a subject not to be openly discussed.
Please read an leave a comment or two.
https://www.freespeechbacklash.com/
Pippa Middleton and husband block footpath that gave ramblers âunfettered accessâ
Public has had use of country lane âfor decades, if not centuriesâ
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/27/pippa-middleton-husband-james-matthews-block-footpath/
I enjoy walks in the countryside but what I am not so keen on are the gangs of 'ramblers' in sensible walking boots, silly woolly hats, hiking sticks, sharp elbows to push other walkers out of the their way and fanatical gleams in their eyes. When I go for a walk I prefer to be on my own or with my wife or a friend. I like to be pensive and reflect on things.
BTL
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Property is Theft!
(Pierre-Joseph Proudhon)
We have a quasi communist government in place so I suspect that in this Plebs v Nobs dispute the Plebs will doubtless win!
Does anyone remember Jeremy Taylor's song: Red Velvet Steering Wheel Cover Driver? Such drivers, like aggressive ramblers, do not seem to notice the countryside through which they pass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDuBCjMVLJk
It is illegal to block a right of way. They need to get on to the rights of way officer at the council. If it isn't a right of way they can present evidence of twenty years' continuous use and request that it be put on the definitive map.
From the letters:
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Roy obviously hasn't been to Westminster Abbey or St Paul's recently. The Abbey charges ÂŁ30 or a generous ÂŁ27 if you're a pensioner.
They donât charge for attending services and when the plate comes round, the donation is voluntary.
I go to Evensong .
Tourist attractions in London can be very expensive unless they're free.
When I see charges for looking round churches I am reminded of Christ's reaction to the moneylenders in the Temple.
Good morning,
Labour have announced a new political unit to take their core message direct to the streets. Mike Amesbury and Ricky Collins will lead the new unit titled The Home Unit Group (THUG). Amesbury said 'we aim to make the group's approach punchy'. Due to his bail conditions, Mr Collins was not able to comment. Oversight will be provided by John Prescott who said 'politics shouldn't always be jaw-jaw, sometimes it needs to be jab-jab'. The PM was also not available for comment as he was, apparently, jab-jabbing in Lord Alli's flat.
Iâm waiting for some idiot to say, âBut, butâŠwords are violence! He was only defending himselfâ. Good morning.
I'm sure you won't have to wait long, Sue.
Excellent!
I wonder how long that would last for BTL?
Ricky Jones?
Yes, thanks. I keep calling him Collins for some reason!
Richard Tice has alienated up to 300,000 voters by bad mouthing all the upstanding people at Saturday's Rally. The man is a blinkered idiot. Added to doubts about Farage this will not be helpful to Reform.
Tice simply doesn't have the political nous that Farage has. His words were clumsy.
I remember Farage predicting that an earlier rally would consist of drunken, tattooed thugs. In fact lots of families attended with their children.
At times Tice appears to lack sufficient political savvy when commenting. There was no need for the words he chose re the marching patriots. If, as he appears to have, reservations about Robinson he should have kept those to himself and praised the marchers for their patriotism and good behaviour.
For goodness sake, aren't we all on the same side fighting those who would take away our freedoms: or maybe not?
Here's another gaffe he made recently and my reply to him.
https://x.com/bangerbloyce/status/1850797502615699528
If things get as bad as we think they will and Reform are still in the game and seeming to most voters to represent a break from the uniparty, they will get the votes.
Farage did the same to all the UKIP activists when he jumped ship.
It could be devastatingâ: Why the landed gentry is dreading Labourâs Budget
Rachel Reevesâs plot to tax wealthy landowners could spell the end for farmers
In March 1974, the then Chancellor of the Exchequer Denis Healey stood up in the House of Commons to present his Budget.
As well as doing away with the âlargely avoidableâ estate duty and replacing it with capital transfer tax, he did something that inadvertently secured the future of the country house today.
His introduction of âconditional exemptionâ was only meant to be temporary, but it survives today, allowing big houses and their contents shelter from inheritance taxes provided public access is given. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/tax/labour-budget-it-landed-gentry-apr-bpr-impact/
This moment represented a turning point for the big house â and for the rural economy that surrounds it. But is Rachel Reeves about to undo Healeyâs work?
Farmers face a long list of threats to their livelihoods: disease, extreme weather and very low prices squeezing what little profits they can make.
Now, they fear that the Chancellor could present them with an existential crisis.
There is speculation that Rachel Reeves could remove inheritance tax (IHT) relief for farmland in her upcoming Budget.
Farmers are currently allowed to pass farms to their children without being subject to IHT. While scrapping agricultural property relief (APR) could raise an estimated ÂŁ400m per year for the Government, it risks âdecimatingâ the countryâs family-run farms. Removing the relief could land the average farm with an IHT bill of ÂŁ600,000. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/tax/inheritance/terrified-sell-family-farm-pay-inheritance-tax/
Colin Andress
20 min ago
Labour hate farmers. Theyâre ârichâ (because they own land), mostly white and âexploitâ animals for a living. Labour want us all living in pods and eating Soylent Green.
And itâs no good the Earls of Derby and Carnarvon complaining to Labour. They think such people should be put against a wall and shot.
Comment by Nick Flynn.
NF
Nick Flynn
25 min ago
What worries me most is that even though TTK and Thieves and co know full well that their policies spell disaster for UK plc (donât even get me started on cultural destruction and a blatant attack on democratic rights to free speech) they just donât care. Itâs all about dogma. They really are that dreadful and a direct threat to our way of life.
Nicholas Broad
47 min ago
Starmer and Reeves won't be happy until they have turned the UK into a Cuba.
Comment by Ann Glow-Saxon.
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Ann Glow-Saxon
48 min ago
So thatâs how they plan to destroy traditional agriculture and rural life. As a result of APR changes, farmland will be hoovered up by the likes of Blackrock and it will then be ârewildedâ. Cue food shortages and a push on artificial factory produced âfoodsâ. Agenda 2030 in action.
Isn't 400 million to keep the nation fed a shocking misuse of public money when there is a Zil Lane railway to be finished?
Having been permanently banned from commenting by the DT, I have recently relented and taken out a new subscription (new rather than renewed so that I can comment BTL). In a spirit of reconciliation, I've also restarted writing letters to them. I'm sure the Letters Editor will reciprocate by continuing to ignore them. Anyhoo, today's:
Sir,
Former Chancellor Jeremy Hunt is right to challenge the apparent political bias in the Office for Budget Responsibility's decision to publish its report into the alleged ÂŁ22Bn 'black hole' left by the Tories. He appears, however, to have changed his opinion of the OBR given he supported it when it contributed to the removal of Liz Truss as Prime Minister. The transfer of power and authority to politicised Quangos, regulators and Non-Governmental Organisations started under Tony Blair, including legal protection through the creation of the Judicial Appointments Commission and the Supreme Court. This outsourcing of decision making and authority to unelected individuals and organisations represents the greatest dilution of our democracy in living memory. The failure of the last Conservative government to address this contributed to their downfall. The turnout at the last general election was the second lowest in 100 years. Not only has the public lost faith in politicians, they also recognise that the politicians they elect are not the ones wielding the power.
Yours etc
Made in Britain
Very good point to make.Why subscibe to a left wing newspaper.?
Are there any right wing ones?
No
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Click " Watch on You Tube" on the black box. its underlined so you do not miss it.!
Pat McFadden was either taking the piss or he was operating within normal parameters – i.e. those set by the corporations and programmed with artificial intelligence to give you want they want you to know, rather than answering the question.
So I'll put it to us nottlers, who may not be capable of having the patience to do a series of Captcha assignments, but are therefore human.
We know that non-working persons are going to hammered by the budget in order to pay the executive bonuses destined for the Caribbean but spun as "infrastructure investment in growth". This is to honour the utterly stupid and irresponsible pledge not to raise tax on working people just at a time when the world and his dog knew there was a black hole in public finance. So who are these non-working people, to be vilified as feckless scroungers and parasites? Let's help them out with a list (excluding those on the grounds of belonging to a protected category, such as LGBT and boat people). Here's a start:
Pensioners (obviously)
Landlords
Children
Those terminally ill
Those turned down for employment on the grounds of age etc.
Those with savings
…
Investors
Aren't they exempted on the grounds of being rich enough to lobby Parliament? Or is that only those signed up to the Davos reset?
Yes, good point
Reeves was asked to define and demonstrate the 'black hole'. She declined or was unable to do so.
A case of the bleedin' obvious. We have been living beyond our means for decades. The last Chancellor of the Exchequer to balance the books was Ken Clarke.
Brown balanced them in two financial years.
"[Clarke] reduced the basic rate of income tax from 25% to 23%, reduced UK Government spending as a percentage of GDP, and reduced the budget deficit from ÂŁ50.8 billion in 1993 to ÂŁ15.5 billion in 1997."
Byreducing the long term state pension.
Didn't that pay for the PFI disaster?
By selling off the gold reserves at ÂŁ200 an ounce, when it is ten times that now?
https://www.fisherinvestments.com/en-us/insights/market-commentary/fools-gold-reviewing-gordon-browns-alleged-mistake
I have waited for an article like that for a long time. Thanks.
and advertising the fact he was going to
Yes but how.?? not good.
Yes, but he bankrupted the British Pension Fund to do so.
Donât worry, it was only the private sector. The public sector gravy train continues unabated and unreformed (and unfunded too for that matter)
395419+ up ticks,
Oh look their tory (ino) slip is quite plainly showing.
https://x.com/Basil_TGMD/status/1850521718504280344
I like Tommy Robinson and the pressure he puts on our useless governments. I'm voting for Reform UK.
Ukip are using T Robinson as some sort of Messiah, which he ain't.
If Reform welcome Robinson, like so many are saying, it will destroy the Reform party. They are right to keep him at arms length. However what he says is correct.
Can Reform not welcome TR's ideas without him joining the party – which he probably has no wish to do.
Yes, TR is yobbish in appearance and speech (as is Angela Rayner!) but his ideas are sound. People must overcome their innate snobbishness and listen to what he has to say.
His performance at the Oxford Union was a revelation.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Tommy+Robinson+Oxford+Union+video&oq=Tommy+Robinson+Oxford+Union+video&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIICAEQABgWGB4yCggCEAAYgAQYogQyCggDEAAYgAQYogQyCggEEAAYgAQYogTSAQkyMjIxM2owajeoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:0905c872,vid:_YQ94jFg_4A,st:0
Well Johnny. I said that a few days ago.
Instead Reform can't keep its mouth shut and be silent. All they have done by opening their mouths and proving themselves fools, is cost themselves thousands, if not millions of votes. It is said that if 1 person attends a demonstration it represents, statistically, 100 that would have if they could. So, if 90% of a crowd that is claimed to have been 200 to 300,000 that supposedly voted Reform and multiply that by 10. You have an idea what fools Reform are.
He's a very naughty boy, so we are told.
395419+ up ticks,
Morning MM,
My support for UKIP finished with the treacherous put down via the party NEC & farage input regarding Gerard Batten.
As for Tommy Robinson I can only
say,
“People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do what is considered to be, via governing bodies, rhetorical violence on the decent peoples behalf.
Government cannot allow power to pool in areas they have no control over. This is why Tommy is being persecuted.
I support both – be fair, Tice.
When asked the question is Tommy Robinson a good guy? To reply: "No, no." is simply despicable. especially when you know that Reform pleaded with Tommy before the election, to endorse Reform, which he did. Reform, in the shape of Tice, has revealed itself to be nothing more than another unprincipled party, willing to ask for favours when needed and to stab in the back, when to their convenience.
On top of that, Farage has said that there is no point in mass deportations. So he is not interested in helping the English or the British in general, to save their country. When Farage went to America after the attempted assassination of Trump, he did so, I'm convinced, to grand stand for his ego. I strongly believe that is what Trump is about is the furtherance of Trump. Ambition, to become a Conservative grandee with a title.
395419+ up ticks,
Afternoon JR,
Follow on to your well penned post.
He unfurled his colours long ago as many peoples realised and recognised the true nige.
IMHO,
Been a tory INO covert coxswain since day one of being a founder member of UKIP.
I agree ogga. Ever since his treatment of Gerard I have felt he is not trustworthy. It is all ego and I must be the centre of attention with him. Throwing people under the bus is routine, a narcissist that craves the limelight.
In my opinion, no matter beliefs one has held in the past or what actions one has undertaken, people grow and change and we have to accept at face value who they are today. I think, even if you believe TR was âracistâ in his youth, that he isnât now. Of course the Left and Legacy Media operate under the âgive a dog a bad nameâ policy (but would scream blue murder if the boot were on the other foot).
Actually he has never been racist. He talks about how, not knowing better in his younger days attending a BNP meeting but quitting on the second meeting because he took his best friend with him, who was black. Tommy did’t realize the BNP was racist her thought they were a patriotic party. You should watch the long interview he did with Jordan Peterson.. It is very interesting because Tommy talks about his evolution and what brought him to his present stance.
Thanks JR. I actually donât think he is either, but was pondering on the subject of redemption and the hypocrisy of the Left. And also, how to counteract the arguments of the Leftards, who will not be prepared to accept he was never racist.
Still depressed about todayâs proceedings. I couldnât do what he has done.
I was listening to the latest Winston Marshall podcast earlier. He said, several times, I couldnât leave my country (England), I love it too much. I say, good for tou. And good for TR.
Telegraph View
Britain needs hard power
In an increasingly dangerous world, we will need to invest in defence
Telegraph View 28 October 2024 6:00am GMT
The benefits of Sir Keir Starmerâs pursuit of soft power are yet to be felt, but the costs appear to be mounting. In addition to handing over the Chagos Islands and paying for the privilege, Sir Keir has given rhetorical ground to Commonwealth countries calling for reparations. In the meantime, the question of hard power has been left by the wayside.
With Wednesdayâs Budget fast approaching, it is now believed that Sir Keir and Rachel Reeves will not set out a timeline for keeping their pledge to raise defence spending to 2.5 per cent of GDP. It makes for a dismal contrast: a willingness to fund Mauritian infrastructure, but not our Armed Forces.
As events in Georgia should remind us, Vladimir Putinâs ambitions are not confined to Ukraine. Amid allegations of a range of irregularities, a fiercely contested election seen as a referendum on whether to move closer to the West, or closer to Moscow, has ended in a victory for the pro-Russian party.
To the extent that soft power would directly benefit Britain today it would seem to be of more use in countering Russian influence operations in Europe, than in attempting to win the good opinion of the UN bureaucratic class. And it should come with a concomitant investment in hard power.
Between the war in Ukraine, the continued Iran-backed disturbances in the Middle East and escalating tensions between China and Taiwan, it is not inconceivable that we could soon find ourselves embroiled in three conflicts at once. Sir Keir would do well to keep in mind that when push comes to shove, words must be backed with steel.
All the more reason if taxes must be raised to pay for it, for them to apply to everyone, not to exclude select favourites. That election pledge should never have been made, and a 20% mandate is hardly something to be respected.
395419+ up ticks,
Another old genuine UKIP fruitcake.
https://youtu.be/Ya4AT56WXoU?si=EHAQbrxnj1OzzJQ9
Nice to see him back. UKIP started to lose its appeal when Farage panicked and threw him out. The great thing about UKIP was its devil-may-care libertarianism that said what it liked, and liked what it bloody well said. It doesn't matter if we agree with him or not – if you don't then argue with the fellow!
395419+ up ticks,
Morning JM,
Under the year leadership under
Gerard Batten we hard a patriotic party financially in the black,gaining members daily, and all that was needed for successfully going forward, all built up by battle Briton Batten in one year.
Treacherously brought down via the parties NEC saying he Batten was not of good standing in the leadership election he called for,
The party NEC was backed up by farage who then went into hill climbing, in pro tory (ino) mode,
inclusive of standing DOWN his parties candidates.
My goodness..
The process: blissful ignorance concerning a manufactured migrant invasion in Newtown Mount Kennedy.
Local dog walkers raise the alarm about field receiving a site assessment by migrant agencies, then deceived.. actively lied to.. stonewalled (now there's a word). Mums & dads successfully protest for 5 wks.. then the Gardai arrived with balaclava masked lorry drivers and site workers. Internet signal block. Then the pepper spray. Cars smashed. A concerted disproportionate violent reaction.
blissful ignorance to wake up call.
Too late, you can't vote your way out of this one.
https://x.com/True_Belle/status/1850828121072644398
From the Daily Telegraph
Dear A&E,
My wife and I are excited to be making our retirement plans (including travelling around America), which we hope to begin in the next year. However, my wife is hesitant to take the leap and explore the world while our children (aged 23, 26) are still living in the family home, which weâd need to sell before our travels. Although they have stable jobs and could rent elsewhere, the kids are too comfortable and happy living here, and theyâd rather stay and save as long as possible. I hate to say Iâm growing impatient, but Iâm ready for this next step. Should I postpone our plans or encourage them to move out?
Seems a bit selfish to me
Er, oh dear , that is our scenario!
Encourage them to move out. If necessary, find them alternative accommodation.
When punishing "non working people", which presumably means pensioners, political theorists seem to forget that the accumulated savings of old people are the deposits on a home for their children. Shouldn't this be encouraged?
Carpe Diem
At the age of 40 I met a young woman of 24 and we fell in love and decided to get married. People said we were mad!
At 42 when my wife was 26 we bought a house in France as house prices in Lyme Regis were out of our reach. Madness.
At 43 we gave up our secure jobs at which we had been successful with no jobs to go to and went to France. People said we were mad!
We started to renovate the ruin in the garden.
In 1990 when Caroline was 27 and I was 43 – we ran our first residential French courses in France for VIth Formers.
When our business was established we decided to start our family. I was 47 when Christo was born in 1993 and 49 when Henry was born.
When our children were respectively 8 and 6 we decided to buy a boat, take our children out of school and educate them ourselves and explore the classical world of the Mediterranean flying back to France during the Easter and Summer school holidays to run our courses.
We finally sold our boat, Mianda, 2 years ago – but what a life we have had and are still having!
Our boys are now respectively 30 and 29. Both have good degrees and successful careers, are married or affianced and have bought their own properties in England. Caroline is now 62 and I am 78 – we are still running our courses though Starmer has taxed our clients so much that we probably will not survive in business much longer
We might have been mad – but we are delighted that we seized the day!
I was 'encouraged' to leave home when I was 16. The RAF recruitment forms were left everywhere in the house. Whilst I was serving in Germany I came home on leave to find my parents had moved (without telling me)
My advice……be brave, whilst they are at work change the locks or move đ
Oof! That's hard, man. My sympathies.
I couldn't wait to leave home. As soon as I got a university place (and I applied for universities as far away from home as possible) I was off and never returned!
And ponder about giving them power of attorney….
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1b34f4320256e6eed52d82f1488a9b0760bb022aeaa2256a815b7c3b31ddac4f.jpg
Made me chuckle
SIR â Everything Labour is doing, and everything that Labour is saying, reinforces the truth that it is not the friend of the working man (âWorkersâ taxes will rise, admits Chancellorâ, report, October 26).
Labour has always sought to keep people in the coal mines and dark satanic mills rather than help them to learn to build jet engines, finance companies and computers; always sought to keep them dependent on handouts rather than investing in their own homes and buying shares in the very companies which bring employment to the people without demanding subsidy from the state.
As ever, it is easy to be a socialist if, like Sir Keir Starmer, you are rich. My coal-mining grandfather only wanted three things: that his children did not have to be miners; that he could buy his own home and that he could leave that home to his children and theirs. The Labour Party is against all of that. It closed the grammar schools which allowed my grandadâs daughter, my mother, to break the cycle of âinto the factory at 15â and go to Durham University; it seeks to close the private schools to which she sent me, her son, because as a teacher in Labourâs comprehensives she saw the hopeless damage that socialist experiment did; and it seeks to punish people who try to invest in bricks and mortar.
The double tragedy today is that the Conservatives have lost sight of the fact that they are the true party of working-class aspiration. That is something Margaret Thatcher understood. It is time that the Conservative Party rediscovered that parroting socialist jargon and imitating socialist policies will never win back the traditional conservative â small âcâ â working-class man.
Victor Launert
Matlock Bath, Derbyshire
Good morning.
Apols to Grizz for double post.
I've now made it triple.
That'll teach me to doss around.
I think this is totally correct.
https://x.com/Goosey30111568/status/1850815008868913231
Was the march about Robinson?
Okay he was linked to it but from the look of those attending it was just anti the globalist establishment
Tice denigrated everyone on the Saturday march. He is a political fool.
I have never rated him as a political force.
Farage & Starmer know.. Blair knew too.. you cannot seize power without the floating voter & middle ground voter. And they absolutely reject Momentum & Tommy R.
I understand that but many do not.
Farage & Starmer know.. Blair knew too.. you cannot seize power without the floating voter & middle ground voter. And they absolutely reject Momentum & Tommy R.
Farage & Starmer know.. Blair knew too.. you cannot seize power without the floating voter & middle ground voter. And they absolutely reject Momentum & Tommy R.
Farage & Starmer know.. Blair knew too.. you cannot seize power without the floating voter & middle ground voter. And they absolutely reject Momentum & Tommy R.
Reform is playing the man rather than playing the ball.
Tommy Robinson's views are far more in line with The Reform Party's views than the current government's.
Labour utilises people's envy, spite, and meanness to attract voters.
I do not think that Reform should use people's snobbishness to attract voters!
Me too, Johnny.
You can’t have it all your own way. Your’e retired but your kids are still in their early to mid twenties. Hey, how old were you when you started your family? What were you doing before? Travelling about, enjoying your youth. My children were married and I had 4 grandchildren when I retired. The family home and parents provide great emotional support to young people. My grandparents and parents supported their offspring and we should do the same with our family. Even if your son/daughter lives independently at 23 he still needs to know his mum and dad are there.
More cloud here.
The Labour Party only wants people to be educated sufficiently to be told where to put their X on the ballot paper but not sufficiently to challenge the dogma.
And why do think radical Trot Starmer uses bland meaningless kind n fluffy slogans like:
Change for the better..
Build a better Britain..
Our Labour against Kitten hate..
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From Coffee House, the Spectator
Keir Starmer, Karl Marx and the cant of âworking peopleâ
Sam Leith28 October 2024, 6:32am
Labour has promised that, come what may, they will not be increasing taxes on âworking peopleâ. Well, jolly good. Those of us who work for a living will tend to welcome such a promise. So will hedge fund managers, who go to work every day, and the CEOs of Fortune 500 companies, and the lawyers and accountants who manage vast offshore tax efficiency schemes. Working people all.
âWorking peopleâ is a cant phrase, which â as Bridget Phillipson was forced to admit when she struggled to say if small business owners counted â means nothing concrete at all. It has the advantage, as all such cant phrases do, of denoting an automatic good: itâs something nobody can possibly be against. Work, as we know, collocates with all sorts of good phrases such as âdignityâ, âsweat of browâ, âhonest toilâ. Nobody claims to be proud of not working, or dignified by idleness, or to deserve a reward for their indolence.
Capitalism, one way or another, is the only game currently in town
That sort of vibesâbased rhetoric isnât particular to Labour, of course. Tories have always had the same wearying resort to âhardworking familiesâ â which is the same notion given a sugar-frosting of social conservatism. Whatâs the opposite of âworkingâ or âhardworkingâ? If youâre a Tory, itâs mostly skivers, spongers, quangocrats and undeserving welfare recipients. If youâre Trad Labour, itâs members of the rentâseeking capitalist boss class. If youâre New Labour (and by extension Starmerite Labour) itâs a bit of both depending on who you are hoping to appeal to.
If nothing else, this acrossâtheâboard embrace of âworkingâ as a praise-word for a favoured constituency indicates that the âprotestant work ethicâ â which Max Weber identified as the special sauce that gave Northern European capitalism its flavour â is still the ideology in which we all swim. Dissidence â Oscar Wildeâs quip that âwork is the curse of the drinking classesâ â tends to reaffirm its centrality by presenting itself in the first place as humour.
But two things occur to me about the slipperiness of this epithet in the current context. The first is that its primary meaning â Sir Keir has said that his definition is someone who âgoes out and earns their living, usually paid in a sort of monthly chequeâ â wants to play to the basic idea of the founding of the Labour party a century ago, which is that it is the party of the Working Man. The partyâs clue was in the name. It belonged to the 19th-century paradigm of industrial relations familiar to Karl Marx. There was Capital, and there was Labour â one owned the mines or the cotton mills and the other toiled in them â and the two were easily distinguishable.
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Where are the small boat babes?
The problem is that that paradigm has changed beyond all recognition. Itâs not just the small-business-owning middle-classes who muddy the two-tier system. Mrs Thatcherâs reforms in the 1980s â that boom in home-ownership, the democratisation of owning shares, and the ever greater abstraction of finance capitalism â worked purposively to change it. Itâs no longer as easy as all that to divide the population up between Capital and Labour.
As I understand it â though I donât claim to bring anything more than a very lay understanding of economics to the table â most working people are now a bit of both. Even if you donât own shares in the means of production, your pension fund does â and the house in which you have been steadily paying off the mortgage, in a roundabout way, does too. How many shares do you have to own before you tip over from honest son of toil to boss-class parasite?
So my second is a wider point, and itâs a trickier one. The idea of âworking peopleâ, freighted as it is with an implicit moral dignity, sentimentalises one sector of the economy at the expense of the other. Thatâs underscored by Starmer and Reeves going on the attack against âunearned incomeâ â by which they have made clear they mean inherited income, rents for landlords, or returns on investments of one sort or another.
Does it not do to recognise that, like it or not, âunearned incomeâ is a gigantic part of how our economy works â and short of proposing fully-automated luxury communism, it will continue to be? Lending money at risk underpins the whole shebang: thatâs how banks make money, and how investors in companies make money, and how those companies have money to pay âworking peopleâ in the first place. And short of compulsory nationalisation of all property anywhere, landlords will always be with us. Thatâs the merry-go-round. As far as I know, Sir Keir doesnât propose to abolish it. So why speak as if all that âunearned incomeâ is, so to speak, a bug rather than a feature?
Would it not be a bit âTwo Tierâ to imply that passive investors in companies are essentially parasites, while the âworking peopleâ whose wages they help pay are virtuous? Itâs the same money. Itâs all muddled together and, as I said, what with the existence of pension funds and a banking system in which âworking peopleâ are heavily implicated, we are all, in some sense, in it together.
Donât get me wrong: Iâm no apologist for the grotesque imbalances in power brought about by rampant laissez-faire. I think â as that notorious communist Warren Buffett does â that itâs grotesque so many of the ultra-wealthy are able to dodge tax in ways unavailable to much poorer people. I think thereâs every moral case for bolstering tenantsâ rights against no-fault evictions and black mould. I think that the rent-seeking monopolies of whatâs been called âtechno-feudalismâ need a strong dose of antitrust law, that regulatory capture is filling our air with pollutants and our rivers with poop, and that the heads-Iâwin-tails-you-lose story of the 2008 crash was an affront to fairness and the basic operation of capitalism itself.
But you can believe all that and still believe that capitalism, one way or another, is the only game currently in town â and that not only does it rely on âunearned incomeâ in a practical sense, it will also rely on it in a moral sense. That to have private property, and to invest it, is not a sign of moral degeneracy but is part of the moral contract on which our economy operates.
Sure, tax unearned income; and tax the earned sort too. Pluck the goose in the way that yields the most feathers with the least hissing and do so in the way that seems fairest to you as the government of the day. But donât pretend that taxing âworking peopleâ is wrong while taxing âunearned incomeâ is a moral crusade, while being unable to draw anything like a satisfactory distinction between the two. They also serve, as Milton almost wrote, who only sit and count their money.
I wish âcapitalismâ were the only game in town. But unfortunately âcapitalismâ is sadly MIA, or at least AWOL, in this game. Otherwise we wouldnât have all the ridiculous regulation and legal guff mandating obligatory reporting on carbon emissions, ethnic male up pf the workforce etc. we are possibly a social democracy. Bit we are not capitalists.
I'm retired, but I still "work" because I do a lot of voluntary (i e unpaid) jobs.
I'm retired, but I still "work" because I do a lot of voluntary (i e unpaid) jobs.
This is a cracker! And the commentsâŠ.!
https://order-order.com/2024/10/27/jenrick-says-farage-is-not-a-serious-politician-like-him/
Sorry – who is this bloke? Some sort of Libturd?
I wish Farage would stop rattling their cage and set fire to it instead. Bonfire of the inanities.
Thanks, Sue. I really wish Tominey had asked Jenrick how it's possible for us to leave ECHR, as far as I've been told the UK can't – because it's embedded in the NI Agreement to ensure parity with the Republic …so that if the UK leaves, the NI Agreement could unravel. I don't know if this is true or not (I was told by someone who said they worked in government, posssibly a CS), but I'd really like a politician of Jenrick's standing to be asked the question and see how they respond. On his Farage point, have noticed a few knives seemingly out for Farage, we'll see if (and how) he responds. My guess is he'll be staying where he is. Thanks for your post, Kate x
I think we should politely fcuk the traitorous NI treaty
Yes, but the suggestion then becomes ‘if we break a Treaty no other country would risk having a Treaty with us because we may break it at any time, whenever we wish’. Good old rabbit hole, eh….
The EU broke the Minksk agreement. Now there is a war on.
I believe so. Seems to me America would have reacted similarly in similar circumstances (they have a huge problem now on Southern border, as you will know Phiz).
A bit like the Germans forgetting to pay reparations after the First World War? Or de Gaulle unilaterally taking France out of NATO?
There you go, MiB…:-)))
So the Leftards will spin it. The correct response is that you donât continue with treaties enacted under duress or which are no longer fit for purpose. Could you see the Donald putting up with such a situation???
They will. We shouldn’t. No I can’t đđđ (and neither would I, if in any position of strength).
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats-last-7-days
More landings yesterday 225 illegals .
And it is getting worse. 1663 more thieves and toxic shite in just six days.
Good Morning NOTTLERS! Weather rather dull.
Today, keeping eye out on You Tube to find out what happens with Tommy Robinson.
I suppose you all know now about the political suicide of Richard Tice and Reform. So, today, also have to write an email telling them, politly, where to get off. They have lost my vote. But then, as you know, I have been voicing my concerns about them, in particular Farage, for a while. I only joined the party because they were the best of an unsatisfactory lot and, sure enough out pops Tice to express his contempt for Robinson and the people of England.
I am not a fan of Tice. When Reform were ramping up for the election I told the local candidate that the party needed to do 2 things; replace Tice with Farage and reject any Tory deserters. I think Tice was 'rejecting' TR and his immediate acquaintances rather than all those who marched on Saturday. As I said earlier, he's clumsy with his words and remains a liability to Reform.
With all that was going on within the UK e.g. clear globalist infiltration in the long-lived parties; the CV-19 debacle; mass immigration and the Dover invasion; Net Zero non-science etc. etc. Tice had Reform fluctuating at low percentage levels. IMHO an indicator that he does not have the political charisma/nous to drive a party forward even in times of mass failure by the established shower.
The patriotic/freedom/non-globalist/anti-EU movements need every faction to come together to pull in the same direction. It's literally a life and death situation.
A great man once said about making alliances to overcome tyranny:
W S Churchill.
W S Churchill – Hillsdale
Have you watched the incident? Because, I think, he meant everyone that supports TM.
I didn't hear all of his piece so I defer to your wider knowledge. I still don't like him.
I didn't hear all of his piece so I defer to your wider knowledge. I still don't like him.
Chris Kaba was victim of two-tier justice, claims head of teachersâ union
Daniel Kebede says shooting of gangster denied him opportunity to go âbefore a courtâ
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/27/chris-kaba-was-a-victim-of-two-tier-justice-daniel-kebede/
Is it any surprise that teaching is in such a bad way and that Starmer is determined to dumb it down further by punishing priivate schools which are trying to educate children. To be fair there are several excellent state schools but how long will they stay excellent with such people at the top?
I was a schoolmaster for several years. I refused to join any of the teaching unions as, in the private sector, it was not obligatory to do so.
"Daniel Kebede says shooting of gangster denied him opportunity to go âbefore a courtâ" again.
Perhaps he should have tried getting out of the car when the Police stopped him, instead of using the 2ton car as a lethal weapon? Just a suggestion!
Perhaps the dindu could have avoided a life of crime in the first place?
That would have worked as well!
Daniel Kebede should have said that if Kaba had complied with the police instructions then the police officer involved wouldn't have had to go 'before a court'
I wonder what Kaba's actual teachers would say about it…Star pupil? Little shit?
Live by the gun…
I bet Kaba's family are missing his financial input.
They might have to actually work.
They canât work! Mental âelf ishoos from loss of a much-loved family member!
Apparently one (coon, of course)said he was a model pupil – bubbly and interested….
Wanna by a bridge?
That's going too far.
Get over it.
They need to improve their spelling – it's 'stab pupil', not star pupil.
This Daniel Kebede? He'll be on about slavery, to, I expect:
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I doubt Kebede does any teaching.
All the active union officials in the hospital were notable for the lack of any actual work they put into nursing.
The Voice (African-Caribbean newspaper operating in the United Kingdom) described Kebede as "only the fourth Black General Secretary of a union in Britain. Who'd 'a guessed he was a Googlie?
I only joined a teaching union for the legal cover and supposed support in the event of things going wrong. When push came to shove they turned out to be completely useless and a waste of my subs during my teaching career.
RFK destroys the Democrats. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WRsJ8du4kA
I really like RfKjr, first politician I heard speak out against vaccines – music to my ears. Very positive he's joined Trump campaign – I'm a big supporter of Trump too.
DITTO
Cheers, Johnny x
RFK a good guy!
Daylight Saving Time
New Zealand entomologist George Hudson first proposed modern DST. His shift-work job gave him spare time to collect insects and led him to value after-hours daylight. In 1895, he presented a paper to the Wellington Philosophical Society proposing a two-hour daylight-saving shift
English builder, William Willett,, independently conceived DST in 1907 during a pre-breakfast ride when he observed how many Londoners slept through a large part of a summer day. Willett also was an avid golfer who disliked cutting short his round at dusk. His solution was to advance the clock during the summer, and he published the proposal two years later. Liberal Party MP, Robert Pearce, took up the proposal, introducing the first Daylight Saving Bill to the House of Commons on 12 February 1908. It did not become law.
Port Arthur, Ontario, Canada, was the first city in the world to enact DST, on 1 July 1908 followed by Orillia, Ontario, 1911-1912.
The first states to adopt DST (Sommerzeit) nationally were those of the German Empire and its ally Austria-Hungary on 30 April 1916, as a way to conserve coal during wartime. Britain, most of its allies, and many European neutrals soon followed. The United States adopted daylight saving in 1918.
Even the Romans had a form of Daylight Saving with water clocks that had different scales for different months of the year,
It 'aint going to end soon.
âHis shift-work job gave him spare time to collect insects and led him to value after-hours daylight.â
Or, we could change our work hours and achieve the same end.
Just a thought, which doesnât mess up an entire nationâs collective body clock twice a year.
I have long been an advocate of that. Have summer timetables and winter timetables. The summer ones have times an hour earlier than the winter ones. Those who do not have to be at work/in meetings can live their lives happily.
âHis shift-work job gave him spare time to collect insects and led him to value after-hours daylight.â
Or, we could change our work hours and achieve the same end.
Just a thought, which doesnât mess up an entire nationâs collective body clock twice a year.
Notice that Mike Amesbury posted on 'X' 4 days ago: 'Got off the train and then straight on the doorstep to do one of my 'In Touch' sessions.'
Priceless!
How prescient! And touchingâŠ
Those of a certain age might recall the KAPE tours (Keep the Army in the Public Eye). The idea being to help recruitment etc by visiting schools, local events with climbing walls and so forth. Certainly early 80s. Anyway, every time someone appeared in court or the newspapers for indiscretions we always suggested they should be seconded to a Kape tour. Maybe Labour have picked up the idea.
Well, I've delivered the Conservative "In Touch" on multiple occasions.
The only injuries that have occurred have been my fingers caught in letter boxes.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/28/bin-lorry-on-fire-central-london/
Iâll just leave this. At least they admitted to the lithium batteries! Well done Kh*nt
"Just get used to it," © Caliph of Londonistan (in a diffent context…!!)
The traffic was bad when i was there on Tuesday morning with lots of routes closed because of planters and cycle lanes. I can only imagine the utter gridlock caused by closing Oxford St.
Think of all the extra pollution.
Sonny Boy Mk 1 and I were part of the audience at GBN's Free Speech Nation last night.
1. Paddington Station is ginormous when your shoes are full of feet.
2. There are jolly little boats you can hire to pootle on the canals for a few hours. It says no alcohol, but the bottles on the table seemed ⊠convivial.
Thick smoke, toxic fumes, piles of waste debris and shrapnel. Thank goodness there weren't any cows farting in the near vicinity at the same time.
ÂŁ580,000 electric lorry ? Half a million quid for one poxy lorry!
Donât worry, the council tax payers will cough up for it via the surcharge on their council tax bills.
Since you ask, my Khunt tax is an additional ÂŁ800 on top my my ÂŁ3500 council tax. And what a pleasure it is to pay both, for the outstanding value i get for it. And yes, that was sarcasm.
'Morning All
Best "Awkward" for some time…………
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https://x.com/LeeHurstComic/status/1850813580305641558
p.s. But only if you are white and mature.
Mike Amesbury has been expelled from the Labour party for a violent physical attack on a person with whom he disagreed.
But the Labour Party always likes to have a few unsavoury people in its ranks. Who can forget Joyce beside whom TR looks like an innocent Sunday School teacher?
From Wikipedia
Eric Stuart Joyce (born 13 October 1960) is a Scottish politician, former military officer and convicted child sex offender. A former member of the Labour Party, he served as Member of Parliament (MP) for Falkirk, formerly Falkirk West, from 2000 to 2015.
Joyce was arrested five times during his last five years as an MP, most notably in February 2012 on suspicion of assault after an incident in the Houses of Parliament. This led to his immediate suspension from the Labour Party, before pleading guilty to all charges and resigning from the party the following month. He continued representing his constituency as an independent until retiring at the 2015 general election. On 7 July 2020, Joyce pleaded guilty at Ipswich Crown Court to making an indecent image of a child. On 7 August 2020, he was given a suspended prison sentence.
I think he's just had the Whip suspended.
From Coffee House, the Spectator
The humiliation of Iran
Yossi Melman27 October 2024, 5:00pm
In attacking Iranian military sites this weekend, Israel broke through its fear barrier. For years, the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) have planned to strike Iran using aircraft but they have always backed out at the last minute. IDF war planners feared the worst-case scenario: downed planes, pilots captured and Israeli citizens hung as spies in Tehranâs central squares.
Yet at two a.m. on Saturday morning more than 60 US made F-35, F-16, and F-15s, accompanied by Boeing mid-air fuelling planes and early warning air intelligence aircraft, took off from several Israeli air bases. Aboard were 150 air crew. They flew 1,600 kilometres for two hours, passing over Syria and Iraq, and entered Iranian air space.
Iran is blind, deaf and has been humiliated
Within three hours, with precision guided missiles, they hit 20 targets in five regions across Iran. The targets included several Russian made S-300 air defence batteries, radars, ballistic missile and drones production lines and store houses, as well as Parchin base, near Tehran, where in the past Iran has conducted secret nuclear experiments. This was the first time since the Iran-Iraq war in 1988 that a strike has hit the outskirts of Tehran.
The ramifications for Iran, Israel, its Shiite proxies in the region and the West are enormous. Iran, for all its rhetoric, has been proven to be a paper tiger. It will take at least two years for its anti-aircraft defences to be resupplied by Russia, which is already suffering from production difficulties due to the war in Ukraine.
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Until that happens, Iran is blind, deaf and has been humiliated. And with less than two weeks until the US elections, it will hesitate from retaliating against Israel, fearing that this will aid Trumpâs election prospects. Israel, meanwhile, has once again proven its aerial and intelligence superiority.
Israelâs attack was designed to achieve several goals, some military and some psychological.
It has sent a clear message to Iranian leaders and commanders: that it knows about Iranâs military bases, its headquarters, air defence systems and missile depots, as well as its command-and-control centres. Despite the regimeâs empty boasts, Iranâs leaders and much of the public know this as well. They know that most of their secret military and nuclear sites have been exposed, infiltrated and hacked. Their secrets are an open book to Israeli and American intelligence, which have been collaborating and devising plans against the Islamic regime for years.
No less important, Israel has managed to break apart the Iranian plan to surround the Jewish state with a ring of fire â an Iranian strategy which culminated in the terrible event of October 7th, when Gaza-based Hamas terrorists invaded Israel, and in an orgy of blood, tortured, raped, killed and kidnapped 1,200 Israelis.
Iran has tried to strangle Israel for nearly two decades on several fronts, using Shiite militias in Syria and Iraq, Yemeni Houthis, and above all Hezbollah in Lebanon. These proxies, especially in the last year, have challenged and engaged Israel in a war of attrition using missiles and rockets as well as guerrilla style warfare.
Nevertheless, the threat facing Israel is still very acute. Its forces are bogged down in Gaza and Lebanon. And while it has dealt blows to both Hamas and Hezbollah, both groups are resolved to keep on fighting. The human cost of this has been immense, with Israel accused of killing 42,000 Palestinians in Gaza.
With its stubborn refusal to compromise, Israelâs extreme right-wing government, led by prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, is fighting a war seemingly with no end. In the process it is alienating Israelâs closest allies, including the US, the UK and the EU.
This weekendâs strike may have been a victory for Israel, but the country will not be safe until the war in Lebanon and Gaza ends.
They need to go for their nuclear sites before Iran can use them against the world
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MoaAfternoon.I see the windmills are chilling everything down nicely.
Apols if this has already been posted. Possibly the DT Letter of the Week.
"SIR â Everything Labour is doing, and everything that Labour is saying, reinforces the truth that it is not the friend of the working man (âWorkersâ taxes will rise, admits Chancellorâ, report, October 26).
Labour has always sought to keep people in the coal mines and dark satanic mills rather than help them to learn to build jet engines, finance companies and computers; always sought to keep them dependent on handouts rather than investing in their own homes and buying shares in the very companies which bring employment to the people without demanding subsidy from the state.
As ever, it is easy to be a socialist if, like Sir Keir Starmer, you are rich. My coal-mining grandfather only wanted three things: that his children did not have to be miners; that he could buy his own home and that he could leave that home to his children and theirs. The Labour Party is against all of that. It closed the grammar schools which allowed my grandadâs daughter, my mother, to break the cycle of âinto the factory at 15â and go to Durham University; it seeks to close the private schools to which she sent me, her son, because as a teacher in Labourâs comprehensives she saw the hopeless damage that socialist experiment did; and it seeks to punish people who try to invest in bricks and mortar.
The double tragedy today is that the Conservatives have lost sight of the fact that they are the true party of working-class aspiration. That is something Margaret Thatcher understood. It is time that the Conservative Party rediscovered that parroting socialist jargon and imitating socialist policies will never win back the traditional conservative â small âcâ â working-class man.
Victor Launert
Matlock Bath, Derbyshire"
You are third to post that ! Get up earlier !
Good morning.
It's good enough to be worth reading thrice.
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Only the rich can afford to be socialists!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14008715/Compensation-thousands-disabled-AstraZeneca-Covid-jab-health-wes-streeting.html
Thousands of Britons left 'permanently disabled' by the AstraZeneca Covid jab could get payouts in overhaul of compensation system.
I am one of the many refused compensation. I developed 4 clots. 3 across my groin and one in my leg (that they have found so far).
The one in the leg is too dangerous to operate on and i have difficulty walking any distance without painful cramps. I certainly cannot run or jump. This clot is supposedly reducing with the use of drugs.
For a year i was in a wheelchair if i wanted to go out anywhere. I certainly couldn't work.
The reason stated for the refusal was i wasn't damaged/disabled enough.
The bar has been set too high.
I am so sorry to read your experience, Phiz. Disgraceful compensation refused, for you and others. The bar has to be set high – there would be hundreds/thousands? more to claim. AZ then Pfizer vaccine wiped out my memory, my ability to think straight…am slowly starting to recover, sites like this one help although if I get a reply I usually have to scroll to find out what I said to elicit reply…it's mostly STML, I can remember things from my childhood fine. I would never have had the vaccine if it hadn't been for family pressure, I remember those 'discussions'. I'll never have another vaccine, for anything, full stop. Wish you all the best, don't give up, keep pestering, encourage your family to fight on your behalf. Good luck, Kate x PS how in heck could Pfizer develop both virus and vaccine, must have been very good for them financially.
Thanks. I understand memory problems. I have them too but long before i had the AZ.
My GP wouldn't even sign me off to claim sickness benefits. I should have asked the consultant.
That's disgraceful. Hope you got a new GP.
Different one every time.
Bastards.
Bizarrely, some days worse than others although all my days are similar. Not seen my GP in years, they’re useless. My husband phoned them early days following vaccine injury (because that’s what it is), and was told there’s no treatment, and we have many other patients similarly affected. I guess if you don’t recognise something it doesn’t exist. I don’t want to join a group because I think that would enforce it, make me dwell on it more than I already do (although you and I can be a group, you want to say/ask anything related, just say…all the best, Kate x
All the best Kate.
Cheers, Phiz đ
We suspected as much, so won't bother with claiming for MB.
The sheer paperwork alone would be more hassle than it's worth.
243 questions?
It might be worth doing at another time seeing as they are talking about it.
188 accepted out of 15,000 is nonsense.
Tommy Robinson has pled guilty to contempt. Bit confusing unless the deal is something to the effect that he can be released with conditions. He must take down the film 'Silenced' on his X feed. They are now saying he is going to get, possibly, two years in solitary. Apart from that the police outside the court seem to be doing a grand old Duke of York, Marching up and then marching down again. They are also hiding in the bushes. This is the major entertainment at the moment. But each time the police do there thing it gets the spectators awfully excited.
A lady has just said that Tommy reminds her of the song Jerusalem because he has taken up the sword and has not shrunk from the fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT1HEXNI9c4
Thank you for the update.
What a depressing day for democracy.
Thank you for the update.
What a depressing day for democracy.
"Silenced" was shown in Trafalgar Square and will have been copied far and wide? Hard to put the truth back in the box once it's out.
I downloaded a copy and I’m sure millions of other did the same thing. It has over 50 million views.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMGYZvaatSQ You can lead a horse to water â but you cannot make it drink.
Similarly,
You can lead the obese, the disease-ridden and the stupid towards eating the proper, natural, species-appropriate diet â but you cannot make their obesity, their acute- and chronic-diseases, or their stupidity go away.
Dorothy Parker adapted that saying as, "You can lead a whore to culture but you can't make her think".
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Excellent, Sue – thanks. She's always good :-DD
But can you lead a hawk to a vulture?
Thinking about that "forceful" Liebour MP – what the party has always needed are Big Hitters.…
I thang Yew.
Bill, you are really Arthur Askey and I claim my five bo postal order. Lol.
Robinson – 18 months jail for some trumped up charge.
Hmmm. That's less than I thought he would get. Is there anything else in the offing?
He now has to deal with his prosecution under the terrorism act. Not sure when that happens but it is very soon.
Do we really know the truth of the Syrian incident?
Yes. Go watch "Silenced" all the participants in the incident talk about what really happened. You can watch it on Tommy Robinsons X feed
Who is lying? The Syrian boy or his attacker?
The Syrian and believe it or not, the government closed down the school to cover it up and bribed all the teachers including the headmaster to maintain silence under threat of jail. It is one of the most outrageous coverups you could imagine. The reason, by the way, that the English kid went after the Syrian was that he was a bully that terrorized the school but he made the mistake of threatening to rape the young white boys sisters. But, as I said you can watch the documentary on Twitter.
"…the government closed down the school to cover it up and bribed all the teachers including the headmaster to maintain silence under threat of jail."
Proof?
Watch the documentary. The teachers and the Headmaster talk about the incident in great detail.
Go to X type in Tommy Robinson in the top right hand corner. His feed will appear, scroll down until you reach the film.
Actually, to make it simple
https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra
The film is at the top of the page. It's called "Silenced"
The teachers whoe were bribed into silence?
Canine psychiatrist Graeme Hall knows all too well that the traumatised often have bad habits that can be sorted out with proper training. Anyone here tried to adopt a rescue dog from Romania?
It is utterly understandable that anyone that has lived through the various wars in the Middle East in recent years may well be seriously disturbed psychologically, and need attention before being let loose on polite society.
It is an unrecognised expense little admitted to when taking in refugees. Can we afford to do it properly?
Wouldn't import a rescue dog – we have enough of our own, just like the other importees.
Again, Devil's advocate: is it not a bit your side, their side and the truth?
Yes, for telling the truth and exposing the conduct of politicians/police in hanging a kid out to dry because they are to cowardly to deal with problems that have their roots in Islam. Over 50 million people have seen the film "Silenced" on this topic, and it angers the establishment that their lies persecuting an English child to cover up the thuggery of a Syrian bully, were exposed.
Apparently the judge gave a lecture about Tommy not respecting the rule of law. The law that by their conduct, they jeopardise.
Yes, for telling the truth and exposing the conduct of politicians/police in hanging a kid out to dry because they are to cowardly to deal with problems that have their roots in Islam. Over 50 million people have seen the film "Silenced" on this topic, and it angers the establishment that their lies persecuting an English child to cover up the thuggery of a Syrian bully, were exposed.
Apparently the judge gave a lecture about Tommy not respecting the rule of law. The law that by their conduct, they jeopardise.
G'day all. Apologies if already posted, but… London Electric Bin Lorry spontaneously ignites. Worth ÂŁ580,000,
"The London Fire Brigade (LFB) sent three teams from Paddington and a specialist Fire Rescue Unit (FRU) to the incident to deal with the risks posed by the electric vehicle such as potential reignition and toxic fumes. ⊠All occupants of the truck escaped without injury. âŠ
It comes as the number of e-bike battery fires has risen by 70% in a year across the country. In 2022, there were 158 fires linked to electric bikes â a number that had risen to 270 in 2023.
The UKâs 49 fire and rescue services attended 46% more fires linked to lithium-ion batteries for all devices and appliances in 2023 than 2022, according to research collated through Freedom of Information requests by insurer QBE."
Now, if I were to go out without wearing a flimsy face knicker because there might be a germ or two in the air I'd get a passive / aggressive #StaySafe for my troubles and yet nobody but nobody has warned me off buying an electric car, electric bike or standing adjacent to a bin lorry.
Strange old world.
I gather this is a report of the event to which you refer:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14010797/Electric-bin-lorry-bursts-flames-central-London.html
The impact of the use of electric vehicles waa summed up in this report when a bystander shouted out:
"What the f***!"
Take all your points, James – correct as ever. Just trying to scrub the image of you in a flimsy face knicker…đ·đ€Ł
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I thought so. Don’t think I could imagine either!
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"G'day all. Apologies if already posted, but… London Electric Bin Lorry spontaneously ignites. Worth ÂŁ
580,000,"Cost ÂŁ580,000 . . . Worth SFA.
If you republish it they will come after you.
But it can be shown privately. It won't be, err…silenced.
I don't think MP's understand how the Internet works. Once it's out there. It's out there.
They can pay some company to do garbage removal from sites like Wiki to clean up their reputations but as you say….someone will have it and it can resurface.
Yes, once something is out it is out for ever. It is actually silly for the judge to tell Robinson to take it down. There must be literally millions of copies out there now. Especially since it first aired in the USA.
Exactly Sue.
Walls have ears.
Yes, I know. I have no intention of doing that.
1930's
UN: Current national climate plans fall miles short of whatâs needed to stop global heating from crippling every economy, and wrecking billions of lives and livelihoods across every country.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8yyle2eq2o
The nations of this world are 'way off target' with respect to their original aspirations of 1.5 degC global warming which has already been passed by trying to reach net zero by 2050.
Even worse:
Researchers are also worried that forests are losing their ability to soak up carbon, which could be contributing to record levels of warming gas in the atmosphere.
One can only surmise that the actions humankind are taking to save the planet are ironically only making this worse.
I can't understand why Labour has not already grasped the idea that the Tories have not only left them with a massive undeclared debt in the Treasury finances but also that they are now stuck with a planet which is in a far worse state than they ever imagined.
A growing forest soaks up carbon dioxide, whereas a burning forest generates it. However, a burning forest is better for growth and jobs than a growing one, and that is where the political priorities lie.
It's a funny old world when a government claims to be sorting out the National Debt by punishing savers and rewarding spenders.
Several doctors on stage at Kamala Harris' Houston rally stood confused and unable to act when a supporter suffered a medical emergency.
While much of the press coverage came from Beyonce's appearance, at one point, Harris brought out several abortion doctors to speak about the over-turning of Roe vs. Wade.
As Dr. Richard Todd Ivy, an OB/GYN, spoke to the crowd to talk about abortion right, someone clearly needed medical attention.
None of the doctors went to assist and stood there, helplessly, as eventually, Ivy pointed the attendee's issue.
'I think someone needs some medical assistance over here,' he said, as he pointed toward the injured member of the crowd.
Doctors? Really? Or is it a case of they are only trained to destroy babies not save lives?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14008565/Awkward-moment-dozens-doctors-stage-Kamala-Harris-Houston-rally-appear-confused-supporter-suffers-medical-emergency.html
Forgive me playing Devil's advocate but they may be specialists, unable to help for fear of ignorance over condition or treatment in progress.
My father was an ob/gyn and always ran towards any medical emergency.
Both oints taken – I don't know – as said, playing Devil's Adv.
Bet you have his character, Kathie – father's daughter đ
I would be so honoured to think that.
Daughters often have their father’s character, my mother had her father’s, I have mine -like my paternal grandmother..have a great day, wherever/whatever you’re singing đđ
And a lovely day to you, if I’m not too late to wish it! (Only three hours behind now, so I should be OK đ).
No time to sing today – dancing all the way!
Love from a beautifully sunny Buenos Aires; this weather is perfection, as the mosquitos haven’t got their act together quite yet. đ
Beautiful day here too (never too late to wish it đ Dancing is good for body and soul, imo. Many insects this year, including ladybirds – I like their collective noun ‘a loveliness’. Not seen lacewings indoors for last few years, the coming one may be different with la nina in charge..we’ll see :-)!
All doctor specialists are MDs just as they are here. You pick your speciality after or during working for your MD.
They would at least know first aid !
More likely worried about being sued if anything went wrong. The insanity of the system over there is that recently a doctor was sued for saving the victims life by the victim. Such a screwed country. I am not, despite how things are in England, sorry for leaving the USA. It is not the greatest country in the world, even though Americans like to brag that it is.
That would have been my suggested explanation as well.
I have posted previously, Phiz, and no apology for repeating….Senator John Kennedy has questioned witnesses who testified babies are aborted AT NINE MONTHS – they are some of the female surgeons who perform these operations. I think that is murder of a child.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14010869/Tommy-Robinson-jailed-18-months-contempt-court.html
"No one is above the law" – unless they're a muslim or Labour wonk.
Shirley they've sentenced the wrong bloke. Have a look at the court artist's sketch.
Yes, crap artist!!!
395419+ up ticks,
The sentencing of Tommy Robinson was a political
manipulating power move and met with much favour from the political / adjudicating elites.
By the by,
Tommy has children.
Dt,
Paedophile avoids deportation under ECHR because it would be âunduly harshâ on his children,
Seemingly, a manipulating power move, and met with much favour from the political / adjudicating elites, little wonder they didn't suggest he worked from home.
Speech that Tommy Robinson wanted to read out in court but was not allowed to
ADMIN POST – TOMMY'S PREPARED STATEMENT – SHARE THIS EVERYWHERE!!!!
This is the speech Tommy prepared for court today, unfortunately he wasn't able to give the speech but it is his wish that you all get to read it for yourselves.
Your honour, I believe in freedom of speech and freedom of the press. My duty as a journalist is to uncover the truth and I have worked for years to shine light on challenges in society that no one else is willing to speak about.
Have you watched the documentary Your Honour?
If you have watched the film âSilencedâ Your Honour you will have seen that I didnât make accusations and I didnât make assumptions in the film. I simply repeated what I was told by the Head Teacher of the school and others and what was written in black and white in school documents. I let the witnesses give their testimonies and made it clear that Jamal, in his right to reply, denies all of their accusations against him. I explain Justice Nicklinâs verdict and I explain that I lost the case.
There was nothing else I could have included because Jamal didnât bring any evidence to court and he didnât bring anyone to court to speak for him apart from his father, Jihad. No teachers. No social workers. No friends.
It is for this,… REPORTING… for this that I am facing these charges, for this I am facing the prospect of time in a maximum security prison with the risks to my life that presents.
Justice Nicklinâs verdict in this case is extraordinary and while the case caused my divorce and bankruptcy, far more important is the impact his verdict has had on those courageous children who came to court to testify in my defence.
Justice Nicklin effectively discarded their testimonies. He said he didnât know why they were lying but called them liars nevertheless.
Charlie, a grade A student, didnât even like me or support me but was courageous enough to come to court to testify. She had a breakdown, she had to be sectioned. Justice Nicklin caused that.
Bailey Maclaren had tried to commit suicide. Thankfully he has started to rebuild his life. He has to overcome the lie that he is racist.
Many others have been affected.
The collateral damage of this scandalous verdict was too great for the public not to know the truth.
Some people still believe the legacy media is there to report what is happening, the truth, rather than push strongly biased accounts driven by ideology or political agendas.
Well, in this case, the press only attended court on the day Jamal and his father gave their accounts. They then left court and didnât bother to return to hear the testimony of the children who were witnesses for the defence.
The whole balanced picture could not be reported by the legacy media because they werenât there; they werenât interested in what the children testifying for the defence had to say.
And then Justice Nicklin tried to prevent the whole picture being given to the public by issuing his injunction, banning the film. Justice Nicklin has banned me from presenting the same evidence that was presented in court.
If it is such a clear-cut case, why is it necessary to hide the facts from the public. If they watched the testimonies of the witnesses, they would surely come to the same conclusion as Justice Nicklin.
Whatâs the agenda here?
Well the injunction was apparently to protect Jamalâs reputation. Yet itâs not the reputation of Jamal that has been damaged by this legal circus.
I donât wish any ill for Jamal. I personally think he was a victim of his own predatory lawyers and those who blasted this story around the world for their own purposes.
Itâs very telling that Jamal hasnât asked for me to be prosecuted in this case. Neither have his lawyers. The case has been brought by the Attorney General, by the Government.
In my view there are similarities with the Post OMice case. Powerful interests hiding the truth for their own purposes regardless of the terrible consequences for those innocent children I have mentioned, and others.
I could have shown the film âSilencedâ at any point in the preceding three years. I didnât.
However, I did make the decision to play this film in Trafalgar Square on the 27th July this year. and I am grateful to
@elonmusk
and X for allowing the film to remain available; for standing for freedom of speech and a free press.
So if youâre asking me whether I plead guilty or not guilty, yes, Iâm guilty of showing the film in Trafalgar Square on 27th July. And I am guilty of JOURNALISM.
And, although not for you Your Honour, nor for your court nor for the entire justice system, I do have contempt for Justice Nicklinâs ruling and the actions that attempt to hide the truth from the public.
Justice Nicklin fell out with his own father before the case, arguing about me. He should have recused himself before the case even began.
The world is watching. I stand for the truth, for freedom of speech and freedom of the press and if that puts me on the wrong side of Justice Nicklinâs injunction, then so be it.
If I have to sit in jail for speaking the truth; Well I am just one of many people now that this government is imprisoning for things they say; political prisoners.
This government is releasing violent offenders early to make space for people who tweet things they disagree with.
Peter Lynch is the first to have paid the ultimate price. A sixty-one year-old father, and grandfather, non-violent but imprisoned for his views and his speech.
If I have to sit in jail for refusing to be silenced for reporting information that was brought to me for journalism…
Then I am prepared for that.
Thank you
Your Honour.
Very well presented. The case should be reviewed – and Justice Nicklin made to account for his actions. We must have freedom to report the truth.
How are these people appointed?
If justice were transparent, as it purports to be, and justice seen to be done, then we should be told, and also have the public duty to challenge such an appointment if it turns out to be prejudicial.
It is most regrettable that Tony Blair in creating the Supreme Court, politicised the judiciary, when rightly ultimate authority must rest with an authority above politics, such as a constitutional monarch. A non-partisan House of Lords would do, but I cannot somehow see Lords reform going in that direction under present governance.
As regards TR's Contempt of Court verdict, I do not know enough to say whether this was journalism or libel, but there must be plenty in the profession well experienced in knowing which is which. 'Private Eye' routinely gets done for libel, and so understands more than most what hoops must be jumped through to end up on HIGNFY rather than prison.
Judges should also be required to declare their interests (eg "Chair of the LGBTQetc. committee, Labour Party activist and so forth) and their (sometimes considerable) ex-judiciary earnings. Presently they are held to be incorruptible, hence such proofs of impartiality are beneath them, which is quite clearly inaccurate.
Judicial Appointments Commission
Speech by Mr Justice Nicklin: Transparency & Open Justice
10 May 2024 â I should perhaps start by making clear, at the outset, that in delivering improvements to open justice and greater transparency, the judiciary cannot act alone. Many areas, that are critical for the success of the initiative, depend on collaboration with HMCTS and the Ministry of Justice.. Community Elders, BBC, BLM, New Labour, Change Labour, Lord Alli, Stonewall, Free Palestine Movement & Hope Not Hate.. lastly the Garys (both of them).
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Note, the same Sir Keir cold stare.
Who ate all the pies, Your Honour?
Lucky you got out when you did, Bill. Are there any thin judges?
Sir Denys Buckley was thin. He is the only High Court judge to have played a High Court judge – when he took part in a performance of "Trial by Jury"…..years go!
Just the one then.
Well…you know what they say about trenchermen…fat bastards
As it happens, Pip, I have a High Court Judge on speed dial. BMI prolly around 15. Accomplished singer, former chorister at the Temple Church, volume set to eleven. We don't see him much since his elevation, but he's a good egg.
How are things?
A bit dim with all this news.
I am organising a table for ten at the Lanesborough in the Spring and or early Summer for afternoon tea.
We are three to ten is the total so get in quick.
Singing judges !
I had enough trouble getting you to play !
Not sure if you saw the Rules disaster.
Hopefully with the addition of a judge …………….. erm.
Not sure you remember my posts from a few years ago where some SERIOUS violinists were on holiday at Knoll House at Christmas. I'm sure you can work out who…
And as they began to set up in one of the worn out lounges i told the staff at the bar to call in all the other guests. (me being a bar fly).
The first thing this delightful couple played was Lark Ascending.
Just memorable.
Oh fuck. Does this mean i don't get the job?
I did say to you i shouldn't post late/early/anytime.
Has he just been goosed, if he has, I think there is just a hint of a smile..
Of course the photo is staged.
They didn't catch him at 3am scuttling out of the Groucho Club, that if they allowed me to be a member of i wouldn't join.
Apols to Mr Marx.
That photo could be a flashlight but i think given the lighting and the make up being professionally done it is either cocaine or ketamine…so Ian Hislop mentioned to me.
395419+ up ticks,
The trouble is currently you have to be topped in nick to be half believed by many a peoples.
I do believe he had to plead guilty to contempt of court
as that was the true fact.
https://x.com/Jeremy51098183/status/1850892153276240364
But do British courts today deserve anything other than contempt?
Seem to remember Dickens writing about them in a similar vein, Rastus. If so, seems nothing has changed, at least not for some.
395419+ up ticks,
Afternoon R,
Definitely not, we need a refresher
re-run of the 6 June at quarter past twelve.
Courtesy of the tactical highly spiteful majority voter we have landed up, not with Robin Hood combatting King Jonny, but kneel the Robbing Bastard successfully screwing the peoples.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rL-2iVNuBA&list=WL&index=74
The full vid of Jordens take on Trumps team.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTJZhsGmWi8
What do people think of the idea that a crowd go to the jail on Christmas eve and sing Carols for Tommy. Is that a good idea or nuts?
Ideally, he would be one of those released to spend Christmas at home with his family as others will be – he's not a flight risk imo.
I like the idea, but Christmas Eve is the busiest entry in my diary. Two Crib services plus Midnight Mass. I bitterly regret that, for the ten plus years I lived in East Anglia, I was never able to attend the Carol Service at King's College, Cambridge, 20 miles up the road. The Rector was Chaplain to Center Parcs, hence we did a mid-afternoon Carol Service for the punters. With a crappy digital piano, I would add.
You play for Center Parcs!
I expect the children and their parents appreciated it even if you were on a crappy digital piano….like mine.
:@)… :@)…
Just had a walk down to see what they are up to down the road and was upset to see 8" elm logs being fed into a chipper!
Turns out I only had a ÂŒton of ferrous scrap, 280kg, but still got ÂŁ45 for it!
A run to Stoke to see stepson tomorrow then I might try and scavenge some more wood over the rest of the week and must not forget to tax the van on Friday.
The non-ferrous scrap can wait until next week.
Is that some sort of sick joke?
Some light relief… https://youtu.be/bVbtAYPSapw
Today Free Speech has an article by Xandra H, an NHS psychologist, on the tricks that the government uses to manipulate the people into accepting the unacceptable, often involving a loss freedom, a process she calls âlegerdemainâ.
Secondly, we reproduce an open letter Clive Metalas sent to Tory MPs pointing out what he sees as the Islamic nature of the so-called âAsianâ grooming gangs . FSB does not agree with his central theory, but supports his freedom of expression and his view that this is too important a subject not to be openly discussed.
freespeechbacklash dot com
Thanks, Tom.
Thank you Graham.
As a former resident of "The North" – where it's supposedly 'grim', please don't do what the Southenrers do.
Working on a defence contract around several East Anglian RAF bases, I turned up at the guardroom at RAF Cottesmore, and the guy behind the desk exclaimed "That's unusual."
I turned to look out of the window. Seeing nothing remotely unusual, I asked him what he meant. "Graham as a surname."
So I reeled off the evangelist Billy, the singer Jaki, plus several others.
There was a handy Ford dealer just outside the base. So, when servicing was needed, I would book the company Orion in. Picking the car up from a service on a Friday afternoon, I headed North to my elderly Mum's place in Carlisle for the weekemd. The car was unhappy, running extremely roughly. So, on the Monday, I phoned my excuses to my boss, and drove to County Garage. CG Ford were the principal supplier of cars to John Laing, my previous employer.
Service Reception: "Take a seat. What's your name?" "Geoff Graham". "Not another one!" Chap behind me in the queue: "Me too." So that was three of us in a short space of time…
So us Grahams are rather more prevalent in Cumbria than in Surrey.
By the way, Dad was James Armstrong Graham. Let's not go there, Brother… đ
Sorry Geoff, my feeble mind wanders easily. I had just exchanged a few notes with Graham Bedford.
The Grahams are, like the Armstrongs, a border reiver family. They are common enough in the North East as well. As a very immature and badly behalved 14-year old I fell for the gorgeous Maureen Graham, in my class – but the haughty bint wouldn’t look at me, she was going out with a lad from the year above.
Julie Graham still does it for me.
I had a friend called Julie Graham when I was about 5!
Julie Graham still does it for me.
There was also the racing presenter Lesley Graham.
I bought my first car from County Motors! A blue mini Clubman! Paid ÂŁ340 and still have the receipt. The guy who sold me it was our head receptionists boyfriend!
Now no more.
Neither is the car! RSG 142H
Excellent 'open letter.' The sentence, "The common denominator is Islam, not ethnicity." sums it all up.
The relentless persecution of political prisoner Tommy Robinson continues, with him being jailed for 18 months for telling the truth, a truth the globalist Etsblishment forcing mass immigration on us wants to hide. The lying media is playing its part, with the fraudulent claim that Tommy pleaded guilty to 'committing contempt of court by repeating false allegations against a Syrian refugee." He did no such thing.
Tommy Robinson made a film that told the truth, but was forced to pay the thug in question ÂŁ100,000 – after a fraud of a judge dismissed first hand evidence by the thugs victims, all six of them, school children, and their families as liars, and accepted the one witness who spoke in the thug's favour – his father – as fact. The corrupt judge then barred Tommy fro ''repeating false allegations against then-schoolboy' – but Tommy has told nothing but the truth, another truth the woke establishment wants to suppress.
The Establishment enforcer, the Solicitor General, issued two contempt claims against Robinson earlier this year, claiming he âknowinglyâ breached the order 10 times. And that is what Tommy pleaded guilty, knowingly breaching the gagging order and telling the truth.
Today's judge Mr Misjustice Jeremy Johnson told Tommy that his actions had a âcorrosive effectâ on justice. Many will agree that the corrosion of justice is the result of oppressive government action enforced by politicised Establishment catchfarts like Mr Johnson.
âNobody is above the law,â the pompous judge said. But we all know who is above the law – the Left, politicians, and its protected groups like the two thugs who attacked the police at Manchester airport, and still free. Can any fair-minded person have anything esle but contempt for the court and the law in general in this country now?
Judge Jeremy Johnson, an expensively educated public schoolboy, Oxford of course, specialises in criminal cases and those involving government departments, and became a member of the Attorney General's Panels for the conduct of civil litigation on behalf of the British government, according to Wkipedia. Johnson was appointed by the Investigatory Powers Commissioner, Sir Brian Leveson, as a temporary Judicial Commissioner under the Coronavirus Act 2020, and has represented MI6 and the Foreign Office.
A very high powered pillar of the political establishment for what would ordinarily be an obscure contempt of court case – but he did the job for the tyrants.
The government and all involved in running it, politicians, civil servants, the judiciary, the senior police are all corrup and rotten to the core, and no better than China's corrupt Communist party.
– Well Labour have now thrown down the gauntlet, locking up a journalist for not obeying their inconvenient truth news blackouts.
I suppose this is a warning to keep the mainstream media in order and what they can expect if the don't follow orders.
GB News lookout, you'll be next
A prurient Par Four!
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Nice one, mola……
Show us yer divots, GGGG!
Errr, they're just above Rene!
That's the best today I think – I only got it on the last attempt
Me too.
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'Night All
Oh tommy TOMMY…….
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A Robin Red breast in a Cage
Puts all Heaven in a Rage
(William Blake)
This is the MSM's cliché mantra.
Instead of discussing whether these might have been true allegations the DT merely follows the herd.
Who has not read Eric Blair's Nineteen Eighty Four – I think he was pulling a fast one when he passed himself off as George Orwell? And who was Charles Lutwidge Dodgson trying to deceive when he called himself Lewis Carrol and wrote about a little girl called Alice? And was Acton Bell thinking of changing gender when going about as Anne Bronte?
Every literate person who reads P.G. Wodehouse's books knows that Bertie Wooster's Uncle George was Lord Yaxley who was certainly extreme right wing; and most people also know that Vladimir Lenin was slightly to the left of centre.
When choosing an alias Tommy Robinson skilfully borrowed from two very different sources and in coming to Yaxley-Lennon he produced an ambiguous name which was further complicated by spelling Lenin's name as Lennon.
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Samuel Langhorne Clemens is two fathoms deep.
Is he teaching Huckleberry Fin and Tom Sawyer how to swim.
Steamboat pilot!
DT article
Trumpâs New York invasion exposed the MAGA madness powering him to victory
I only mention it for this excellent BTL comment:
Steve Daniel
29 min ago
Clearly the US would be far better off if elections were confined to 4 weeks of meaningless platitudes mouthed by a couple of identikit centrist non-enities who then hand the country over to the Civil service the day after the election.
If only they had our system – everyone with a bit of spark or originality could be cancelled by OFCOM and debanked, and they could join us in the slide down the prosperity ladder
Oh Tommy TOMMY
ADMIN POST – TOMMY'S PREPARED STATEMENT – SHARE THIS EVERYWHERE!!!!
This is the speech Tommy prepared for court today, unfortunately he wasn't able to give the speech but it is his wish that you all get to read it for yourselves.
Your honour, I believe in freedom of speech and freedom of the press. My duty as a journalist is to uncover the truth and I have worked for years to shine light on challenges in society that no one else is willing to speak about.
Have you watched the documentary Your Honour?
If you have watched the film âSilencedâ Your Honour you will have seen that I didnât make accusations and I didnât make assumptions in the film. I simply repeated what I was told by the Head Teacher of the school and others and what was written in black and white in school documents. I let the witnesses give their testimonies and made it clear that Jamal, in his right to reply, denies all of their accusations against him. I explain Justice Nicklinâs verdict and I explain that I lost the case.
There was nothing else I could have included because Jamal didnât bring any evidence to court and he didnât bring anyone to court to speak for him apart from his father, Jihad. No teachers. No social workers. No friends.
It is for this,… REPORTING… for this that I am facing these charges, for this I am facing the prospect of time in a maximum security prison with the risks to my life that presents.
Justice Nicklinâs verdict in this case is extraordinary and while the case caused my divorce and bankruptcy, far more important is the impact his verdict has had on those courageous children who came to court to testify in my defence.
Justice Nicklin effectively discarded their testimonies. He said he didnât know why they were lying but called them liars nevertheless.
Charlie, a grade A student, didnât even like me or support me but was courageous enough to come to court to testify. She had a breakdown, she had to be sectioned. Justice Nicklin caused that.
Bailey Maclaren had tried to commit suicide. Thankfully he has started to rebuild his life. He has to overcome the lie that he is racist.
Many others have been affected.
The collateral damage of this scandalous verdict was too great for the public not to know the truth.
Some people still believe the legacy media is there to report what is happening, the truth, rather than push strongly biased accounts driven by ideology or political agendas.
Well, in this case, the press only attended court on the day Jamal and his father gave their accounts. They then left court and didnât bother to return to hear the testimony of the children who were witnesses for the defence.
The whole balanced picture could not be reported by the legacy media because they werenât there; they werenât interested in what the children testifying for the defence had to say.
And then Justice Nicklin tried to prevent the whole picture being given to the public by issuing his injunction, banning the film. Justice Nicklin has banned me from presenting the same evidence that was presented in court.
If it is such a clear-cut case, why is it necessary to hide the facts from the public. If they watched the testimonies of the witnesses, they would surely come to the same conclusion as Justice Nicklin.
Whatâs the agenda here?
Well the injunction was apparently to protect Jamalâs reputation. Yet itâs not the reputation of Jamal that has been damaged by this legal circus.
I donât wish any ill for Jamal. I personally think he was a victim of his own predatory lawyers and those who blasted this story around the world for their own purposes.
Itâs very telling that Jamal hasnât asked for me to be prosecuted in this case. Neither have his lawyers. The case has been brought by the Attorney General, by the Government.
In my view there are similarities with the Post OMice case. Powerful interests hiding the truth for their own purposes regardless of the terrible consequences for those innocent children I have mentioned, and others.
I could have shown the film âSilencedâ at any point in the preceding three years. I didnât.
However, I did make the decision to play this film in Trafalgar Square on the 27th July this year. and I am grateful to
@elonmusk
and X for allowing the film to remain available; for standing for freedom of speech and a free press.
So if youâre asking me whether I plead guilty or not guilty, yes, Iâm guilty of showing the film in Trafalgar Square on 27th July. And I am guilty of JOURNALISM.
And, although not for you Your Honour, nor for your court nor for the entire justice system, I do have contempt for Justice Nicklinâs ruling and the actions that attempt to hide the truth from the public.
Justice Nicklin fell out with his own father before the case, arguing about me. He should have recused himself before the case even began.
The world is watching. I stand for the truth, for freedom of speech and freedom of the press and if that puts me on the wrong side of Justice Nicklinâs injunction, then so be it.
If I have to sit in jail for speaking the truth; Well I am just one of many people now that this government is imprisoning for things they say; political prisoners.
This government is releasing violent offenders early to make space for people who tweet things they disagree with.
Peter Lynch is the first to have paid the ultimate price. A sixty-one year-old father, and grandfather, non-violent but imprisoned for his views and his speech.
If I have to sit in jail for refusing to be silenced for reporting information that was brought to me for journalism…
Then I am prepared for that.
Thank you
Your Honour.
Time for an appeal, Tommy. Go for them!
Part of the State's tactics is to run TR out of money, not difficult if prosecutors have unlimited funds. TR was ordered to pay Jamal, the boy in the Silenced film ÂŁ100k. Allegedly, he divorced his wife so that his family kept somewhere to live, whilst TR was bankrupted.
Iâve sent him money.
I think quite a few of us have.
Hope everyone's seen Starmer in Steptoe & Son..in the butcher's asking for half a pound of sausages, of all things……on YouTube…
Poor man just seems to be a sausage to fortune.
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"A man allegedly âslashedâ the throat of a two-year-old boy and the face of an eight-year-old girl in east London before attacking a woman who tried to protect them, a court heard on Monday.
Kulvinder Ram, 48, is said to have attacked the two young children with a knife before turning on the woman, who had stepped in to try and stop him."
DEI or DIE !?!
There is nothing to be concerned about said a Government minister.
It is quite normal to be slashed accidentally by all types of knives when visiting a market, a street, a restaurant, a nightclub when not traveling in a three car armoured convoy with armed security said the Mayor of London.
Merry what fucking ever.
I'm not supposed to comment after 7pm. This post is not my fault.
Domestic dispute?
That's me for today. Grey and gloomy throughout – and the weather very similar.
Have a jolly evening.
A demain.
Last comment. Just seen this:
"….man punched by Mike Amesbury in argument about bridge"
As Stephen the Bargee will confirm, bridge can arouse great passion and, indeed, fisticuffs…..
Trump that!
I have no idea what the arg was about but some bridges in Lunnon Copyright you ! have been causing absolute mayhem for people try to get to work. Add to that the ULEZ and stabbings if you get out of your compliant car to by a sandwich you get mugged for your watch.
Was he trying to sell him one? Or was it the dreaded Beesly club?
Did you have your 'procedure' today?
I did indeed, thank you for remembering! Fortunately nothing worse? than 2 polyps, which they removed under sedation. Took quite a while and I think theyâd watered down whatever was in the cannula, but the system worked brilliantly and the staff were charming. I only sent back the test 2 and a half weeks ago!
Co-incidentally, I had my biennial BCS test last week. Posted last Monday, result back on Friday.
Is that the brain?
Sorry, couldn't work out if that was jokey or not. BCS is Bowel Cancer Screening. It might have a different title in Scotland (I was first screened in Scotland because they start at a younger age – when we moved to England I was too young for the English version to start with!)
Poo-on-a-stick! Sorry, MiB! Of course, they do start earlier up here as I think this is my third one. I am really impressed with the efficiency and the speed of the system.
Best of luck with yours!
Mine was 'normal' – the result came back last Friday – 5 days turnaround
I just wish that NHS Scotland was œ as efficient. Hard to find Moffat Medical Practice 'Open'.
Poo-on-a-stick! Sorry, MiB! Of course, they do start earlier up here as I think this is my third one. I am really impressed with the efficiency and the speed of the system.
Best of luck with yours!
Good news!
Thank you and a relief!
Glad it went well. They gave me the clear for the serious stuff but mentioned i had two small haemmorroids.
I said….why didn't you remove them while we were so intimate?
I always have jokes for nurses. :@(
Me too! I asked if the surgeon was a really a doctor!
Just a Camera man that couldn’t get a job with ….
For that procedure i am am sure they just ask anyone at their local S&M club if they want a laugh.
Useful joke in those circumstances;
Do you like money?
Yes.
Well kiss my ass I've got piles!
I'll get me Anusol……….
You are an invert. Keep ya money !
I’ll dig it out later.
Oh dear..
There has been a lot about Tommy Robinson so I thought it was time I watched the video. It is an hour and three quarters long and I had half expected to skip through it quickly just to get the gist, where you know roughly what to expect. But I was wrong, it is totally captivating and to a large extent exceeding our our worst fears about media and government bias and manipulation. (Edit to add "and manipulation")
I've not quite got through it all but need to stop now. If you have not seen it yourself, then I urge you to do so. https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra
Ah but he has been done for contempt hasn't he? Surely that takes the focus away from the initial "crime" and now just contemplates his refusal to follow orders.
My Shocking Report from Inside Trump's Nazi Rally
Konstantin Kisin
Oct 28, 2024
You have likely already read reports from the mainstream media about the "Nazi rally" President Trump held at New York's iconic Madison Square Garden last night. Many of these articles appear to have been written by journalists who wisely avoided the menacing event and reported on it from the safety of their own basements.
I am not a real journalist, however, so having read that literally Hitler was gathering some of Americaâs worst reprobates in the heart of New York for a rally of hate I did something very old-fashioned: I went to see it with my own eyes. And what I witnessed at the event was truly shocking.
By the time I arrived at midday, people had been standing in line since early morning. The diversity of Nazis on display was unbelievable: Black Nazis, Latino Nazis, Asian Nazis, white Nazis, female Nazis and lots and lots of Jewish Nazis were all assembled in an orderly line, chatting politely to each other and cracking jokes. It was terrifying.
Across the road, kept at bay by the few police who sadly haven't been defunded yet, was a handful of mostly peaceful protestors. They were there to "save democracy" by demanding that the democratically-elected leader of one of Americaâs two major parties be thrown in prison. In contrast with the fascists I found myself amongst, whose amicable and respectful demeanour was truly outrageous, the peaceful anti-hate protestors were angry and confrontational, screaming in the faces of those of us standing in line. "Enjoy your Nazi rally," one furious man courageously shouted at a family with young children.
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Despite these attempts to save democracy from the voters, after several hours queuing we eventually made it inside where the horror show truly began. Reminiscent of Adolf Hitler's rallies, the event opened with a stand-up comedian telling a few jokes â straight out of the Nazi playbook! The hateful comic made fun of everyone: celebrities, Israelis, Palestinians and even Puerto Ricans. It made me want to reach for a comfort animal but the person closest to me was a woman in a hijab and I didn't want to commit a hate crime by hugging her without consent.
By the time I came to my senses, a radio personality called Sid Rosenberg was on stage. Hmm, Rosenberg, I thought to myself. Typical Nazi name. He had apparently just returned from Israel which he claimed both he and the President support. I couldn't help noticing that every time he mentioned Israel the Nazi scum, who had by this point filled the stadium to the rafters, cheered and clapped. "This is just like one of Hitler's rallies," I said to the man next to me who was wearing some sort of skullcap. He laughed as if I'd said something funny and resumed cheering, holding up his bigoted "Jews for Trump" sign.
A succession of other prominent speakers followed, all of whom made terrible, offensive comments like "We love America," "America is the greatest country in the world!" and "Ask yourself, are you better off today than you were 4 years ago?". This obviously made me extremely uncomfortable: everyone knows America is better off now than it was under Trump because, thanks to DEI, the country finally has a black female Vice President. But, horrifyingly, the people around me seemed to think that being unable to afford groceries mattered more. I could barely contain my disgust.
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This was all getting very scary so I went to hide in a toilet cubicle for several minutes to regain my strength. As expected, the venue didn't have any gender-fluid restrooms, so I had to sit in the men's room listening to Nazi after Nazi wash their hands and make hateful small talk. "Isn't this fun?," I heard one of them say. "Not if you're a person of colour" I wanted to screech from the safety of my stall. By the time I eventually returned to my seat, a black man was on stage talking about the need to overcome America's complicated history of racism and sexism to move forward together. "WHAT ABOUT TRANSPHOBIA?" I screamed at the top of my lungs but instead of stopping and checking their privilege, the Nazis kept on rallying.
After venting about "illegals" for what seemed like hours, they eventually wheeled out illegal-in-chief, Elon Musk. How stupid are these people? I couldn't help thinking. Can they not see that a student who drops out of college to start a business and a gang member who crosses the southern border to murder Americans are basically the same? But Nazis gonna Nazi so they went crazy for Musk, the man who ended democracy by allowing people to express their opinions online without censorship.
By the time Trump came on stage, it was nearing 8PM and I was too angry to concentrate on what he was saying. It was all deeply hateful, of course, and he was incredibly orange. I stumbled out of the venue in a daze. It was dark and, as we all know, democracy dies in darkness.
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Just in case you missed the nazi connection, msnbc have apparently sliced video snippets from a Hitler rally into coverage of Trumps rally.
I am sure that many will have been fooled by this.
Just a lack of historical knowledge.
That is the funniest piece of satire that I have read in a long, long time.
The left really are low-hanging fruit nowadays!
Poor old Lefties they wanted to keep their grooming gangs out of the public eye with restrictions on reporting, until their nemesis through his brave actions brought the whole issue out into the mainstream media.
He now languishes in jail, like Nelson Mandela once did, great people make great sacrifices for the freedom of their people against oppression.
Looking back, though the Rotherham sexual exploitation by Pakistani gangs was well known about by the authorities and the press, the scandal had been sat upon for years until, frustrated by the lack of interest by the main parties one woman, Marlene Guest, enlisted the help of the BNP to expose the scandal.
This forced Andrew Norfolk, who after reporting on a speech by Anne Cryer in Keighley on the matter, was forced to sit on the information he had by the Times editorial board.
TR/SY-L, already involved in exposing Islamic extremism in Luton, picked up on this and added his voice to those trying to get justice.
He has not stopped those efforts since.
He is a very brave man and I am very grateful to him for standing up to our disgusting âjusticeâ system and the creepy judiciary.
I am not sure I would have the courage, to be honest. I am very careful to whom I voice my opinions. It's like being back in Moscow in 1968!
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Evening, all. Went to a proper, old-fashioned memorial service this afternoon. A life well lived (another nonagenarian).
Labour hates aspiration for the working classes. Once they start to move up the ranks, they see Labour for what it is and stop supporting them.
Ezra Levant is a lawyer and friend of Tommy Robinson
https://www.rebelnews.com/tommy_robinson_sentenced_to_18_months_in_prison_will_serve_9?
What an exquisite arrangement:-
https://youtu.be/g4WrYZfdgnU?si=olf87VblyNCbuRQg
Brava, Bravo e Brava!
Brava, Bravo e Brava!
Lovely!
Me to.
A story on Going Postal Geoff, and others, might enjoy:-
https://going-postal.com/2024/10/a-glancing-blow/
Attributed to someone called Mountolive btl on one of the Speccyâs threads on TR:
âThis is the speech Tommy prepared for court today, unfortunately he wasn't able to give the speech but it is his wish that you all get to read it for yourselves.
âYour honour, I believe in freedom of speech and freedom of the press. My duty as a journalist is to uncover the truth and I have worked for years to shine light on challenges in society that no one else is willing to speak about.
Have you watched the documentary Your Honour?
If you have watched the film âSilencedâ Your Honour you will have seen that I didnât make accusations and I didnât make assumptions in the film. I simply repeated what I was told by the Head Teacher of the school and others and what was written in black and white in school documents. I let the witnesses give their testimonies and made it clear that Jamal, in his right to reply, denies all of their accusations against him. I explain Justice Nicklinâs verdict and I explain that I lost the case.
There was nothing else I could have included because Jamal didnât bring any evidence to court and he didnât bring anyone to court to speak for him apart from his father, Jihad. No teachers. No social workers. No friends.
It is for this … REPORTING… for this that I am facing these charges, for this I am facing the prospect of time in a maximum security prison with the risks to my life that presents.
Justice Nicklinâs verdict in this case is extraordinary and while the case caused my divorce and bankruptcy, far more important is the impact his verdict has had on those courageous children who came to court to testify in my defence.
Justice Nicklin effectively discarded their testimonies. He said he didnât know why they were lying but called them liars nevertheless.
Charlie, a grade A student, didnât even like me or support me but was courageous enough to come to court to testify. She had a breakdown, she had to be sectioned. Justice Nicklin caused that.
Bailey Maclaren had tried to commit suicide. Thankfully he has started to rebuild his life. He has to overcome the lie that he is racist.
Many others have been affected.
The collateral damage of this scandalous verdict was too great for the public not to know the truth.
Some people still believe the legacy media is there to report what is happening, the truth, rather than push strongly biased accounts driven by ideology or political agendas.
Well, in this case, the press only attended court on the day Jamal and his father gave their accounts. They then left court and didnât bother to return to hear the testimony of the children who were witnesses for the defence.
The whole balanced picture could not be reported by the legacy media because they werenât there; they werenât interested in what the children testifying for the defence had to say.
And then Justice Nicklin tried to prevent the whole picture being given to the public by issuing his injunction, banning the film. Justice Nicklin has banned me from presenting the same evidence that was presented in court.
If it is such a clear-cut case, why is it necessary to hide the facts from the public. If they watched the testimonies of the witnesses, they would surely come to the same conclusion as Justice Nicklin.
Whatâs the agenda here?
The injunction was apparently to protect Jamalâs reputation. Yet itâs not the reputation of Jamal that has been damaged by this legal circus.
I donât wish any ill for Jamal. I personally think he was a victim of his own predatory lawyers and those who blasted this story around the world for their own purposes.
Itâs very telling that Jamal hasnât asked for me to be prosecuted in this case. Neither have his lawyers. The case has been brought by the Attorney General, by the Government.
In my view there are similarities with the Post OMice case. Powerful interests hiding the truth for their own purposes regardless of the terrible consequences for those innocent children I have mentioned, and others.
I could have shown the film âSilencedâ at any point in the preceding three years. I didnât.
However, I did make the decision to play this film in Trafalgar Square on the 27th July this year. and I am grateful to @elonmusk and X for allowing the film to remain available; for standing for freedom of speech and a free press.
So if youâre asking me whether I plead guilty or not guilty, yes, Iâm guilty of showing the film in Trafalgar Square on 27th July. And I am guilty of JOURNALISM.
And, although not for you Your Honour, nor for your court nor for the entire justice system, I do have contempt for Justice Nicklinâs ruling and the actions that attempt to hide the truth from the public.
Justice Nicklin fell out with his own father before the case, arguing about me. He should have recused himself before the case even began.
The world is watching. I stand for the truth, for freedom of speech and freedom of the press and if that puts me on the wrong side of Justice Nicklinâs injunction, then so be it.
If I have to sit in jail for speaking the truth; Well I am just one of many people now that this government is imprisoning for things they say; political prisoners.
This government is releasing violent offenders early to make space for people who tweet things they disagree with.
Peter Lynch is the first to have paid the ultimate price. A sixty-one year-old father, and grandfather, non-violent but imprisoned for his views and his speech.
If I have to sit in jail for refusing to be silenced for reporting information that was brought to me for journalism…
Then I am prepared for that.
Thank you
Your Honourââ
Prediction for tomorrow's
announcement of economic suicideBudget. A Labour back-bencher will stand up and praise measures to steal from the old and give to the young: "May I congratulate the Chancellor on her proposals to redress the intergenerational inequality of the last 30 years. Boomers and Thatcherites stole the wealth of the nation for themselves and denied the young the chance of a good life. This is justice in the finest tradition of the moral and humanitarian Labour Party that we all knew from the past but which has been absent from government for far too long."Any bets on who will perform the task?
The budget is going to be an act of economic vandalism to ruin the economy. Labour are incapable of anything else. And yes, your buzzword bingo line is going to be said, in part if not whole.
It comes down to 'we're taking your money to buy votes, and there's nothing you can do about it, ha!'
It is very strange. Rachel Reeves even looks human.
No idea, WS, but I don't think that they will do it tomorrow (Tuesday). After all, the Budget isn't until Wednesday.
I have a time machine.
What's another day?!
24 hours.
To Tulsa?
Ear worm !!!
It's going to be a total bloody disaster.
And they'll still be blaming the Tories for it. Tories? We haven't had a Tory party since the 1990s â and look what happened to that one.
…
Running on less than empty. Absolutely knackered. Walked dogs. Raining. Everything smells of wet dog but because it's not especially warm is more tolerable than usual but because it's no especially warm the dogs aren't drying, so sitting with them towelling.
Which, when Mongo very much wants to go see Junior is not the easiest thing. Teeth cleaning tomorrow. Yay.
Teeth cleaning for you or for Mongo?
For all three. I scrub them every other day. Doesn't take long. Mongo's really good at it, Oscar tolerates, Lucy is a whizz and has a lie down.
My Chi's don't let me do it. They don't bite or anything but they squirm so much.
And that is me off to bed.
Good night all.
I'm off now too. Good night!
395419+ up ticks,
Pillow ponder,
Can't argue with that, the actual proof is in the porridge or in regards to this issue, a great lack of it.
https://x.com/allymurray7/status/1850925528842174710
Well, chums, I'm off to bed now. Good Night, sleep well, and see you all tomorrow.
Goodnight, all.
Good night.
Good night Conners – and Kadi.
Just posting early. Not a lot of choice to be honest:
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How bad is it? I know…don't ask.
Hope things aren't as bad as it sounds.
I think that was a comment on Wordle…I got it in three, would probably have been two if I hadn't made a silly mistake in the second line…there aren't that many options.
Favourite headline of today…so far.
How will ailing King Harald fill the vacuum in power.
Good morning, all – Tuesdayâs new page is here .
Good morning.
Thank you!