Monday 30 August: The biggest problem facing GPs is that there are not enough of them

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  1. US drone strike kills more Islamic State suicide bombers heading to Kabul airport. 30 August 2021.

    A US drone strike killed several Islamic State suicide bombers on their way to carry out a second attack on Kabul airport, in an apparent sign of uneasy security cooperation with the Taliban.

    The strike hit a vehicle packed with explosives in a residential area of Kabul on Sunday, triggering a blast that could be heard across the city, US and Taliban officials said.

    Morning everyone. There is a mystery here and it is not how do the missiles hit their targets but how do they know that they are targets? I have no doubt the drone operators can read the number plates but how do they know that it is a suicide bombers vehicle? How are they able to predict their arrival a day ahead to the hour? It presumes an almost supernatural insight! One might well suppose a conspiracy between those who despatched it and those who destroyed it!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/08/29/us-drone-strike-kills-islamic-state-suicide-bombers-heading/

    1. Amazing how all this detailed knowledge was acquired after the Yanks had cut and run.

        1. Yes, the Taliban is feeding us intelligence and we are killing their enemy for them. This will probably continue after we have left.

          1. But … but they have $billions worth of military equipment gifted to them. Are you suggesting they don’t know how to use it?

          2. Perhaps they’re just buying time as they scramble to set up training courses for some of the more manageable kit whilst arranging a bazaar to sell of some of the more convoluted systems.
            I’m sure the Chinese will have some chaps with a bagful of cash and the capability to handle some of the more advanced pieces.

  2. Rockets fired at Kabul airport are being shot down by the US anti-missile system. The fight goes on. DT

    1. 338252+ up ticks,
      Morning Cs,
      ” The fight go’s on ” as with the Brexitexit ordeal, I cannot see why these previously won positions in both cases were handed over to the enema forces to make ongoing conflict all that much harder.

  3. 338252+ up ticks,
    Morning Each,

    Monday 30 August: The biggest problem facing GPs is that there are not enough of them

    The political elites know that, as with the accommodation, education, etc,
    DOVER daily intake will always dictate so.

    ALL deflective piss taking chaff knowing their personal welfare/ lifestyles
    are guaranteed via the polling booth, and an electorate whos main ingredient is hope when supporting / voting for them ONCE AGAIN.

    Talk of the pen being mightier than the scimitar & terrorist among the DOVER intake IMO our main danger is the pen wielding terrorist on polling day out to reinstate the same type politico / party
    fear / terror purveyors of yesterday and so it continues, we no longer fear importing dangerous sh!te we have it in abundance within.

    1. Morning all

      SIR – I read the Comment piece by 
J Meirion Thomas (August 27) with utter dismay. His criticism of general practice cuts deep in those who are dedicated to their patients and do provide continuity of care.

      The biggest problem facing GPs is that there are not enough to provide the service that is expected. As the number has declined, the workload has increased, which is why many are not able to work full time.

      Mr Thomas said that he was “shocked that they had not read my letters”. GPs do read hospital letters, but in my practice, on average, we receive 80 to 100 letters per day per GP. This is in addition to clinical appointments, telephone consultations and reviewing patients’ results.

      I get up at 5.30am to look at results before work. I then work until at least 8pm and am likely to continue on my laptop after getting home. I officially work three days a week but I also have results and letters to process on my days off, as well as study to maintain clinical knowledge and performance. 
I would definitely say I am committed to both my patients and the NHS.

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      Dr A Oliver

      Peterborough, Cambridgeshire

      SIR – J Meirion Thomas contrasts the veterinary care for his daughter’s dog with current GP care for patients.

      It costs the taxpayer just £100 per patient per year for a GP service of unlimited home visits, face-to-face appointments and phone calls.

      It costs more to insure a hamster for vet bills.

      Dr John Doherty

      Stratford-upon-Avon, Warwickshire

      SIR – As a consultant gynaecologist, now retired, I thoroughly endorse the views of Mr Thomas.

      A recent survey, reported in your paper, showed that only 11 per cent of new medical graduates intended to work full time. This is a national scandal, as it is estimated that the cost of producing a graduate in medicine is in excess of £1 million, much of which is borne by the taxpaying public. Surely, we can expect a minimum term of service in return, or they should be obliged to repay the cost of training.

      As a country we cannot go on training doctors who have no intention of putting in a lifetime’s work; nor can we go on poaching badly -needed doctors from poorer countries to shore up our own inadequate service. The profession needs to be reminded that medicine requires kindness, caring, the urge to look after people, the willingness to be there when needed and the toughness to do it when you are exhausted.

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      In fact, medicine is not a job, it is a life. That reality has almost been lost.

      David Poole FRCOG

      Hedon, East Yorkshire

      SIR – I now have to go online to request a GP consultation, physiotherapy and mental health counselling, as well as to obtain repeat prescriptions.

      How long before I have to self-diagnose and prescribe?

      Kate Anderson

      King’s Lynn, Norfolk

      1. Dear Kate Anderson.

        Don’t get ill at weekends. The E-Consult in my area is only active on a weekday. The same with booking a phlebotomy appointment at the General Hospital. It can’t be done.

        The recorded messages on 111 suggest you speak to a Pharmacist if the Doctor is unavailable. The Pharmacy was shut and as this is a bank holiday weekend will not re-open until Tuesday.

        When i finally got through to 111 after after 40 minutes. Then an hour and 10 minute question and answer, as i had to be passed to a more senior colleague, the answer was………..go to A & E.

        That was yesterday.

          1. I didn’t go.

            From experience there will be no specialists there until Tuesday. Only for dire emergencies will they come in.

          2. Monitoring.
            The Doctor changed one of my meds recently. Yesterday morning my BP was 152 over 70 and pulse 126.

      2. Kate, I already have to self-diagnose and prescribe. I have told my doctors each time I’ve needed painkillers what I need and what dosage. If they don’t cough up, I have to buy less potent over the counter versions. I know what’s wrong with my ankle, but their response is “no action required”.

  4. Good Moaning.
    Good to see a Bank Holiday that’s true to form.

    Below is a DT article. Surely, if so much routine work hasn’t been done in the past 18 months, there should be spare test tubes from that hiatus? Beyond the usual numptiness of NHS procurement, am I missing something?

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/08/29/test-tube-shortage-caused-surge-demand-routine-procedures-delayed/

    “Test tube shortage caused by surge in demand for routine procedures delayed by Covid

    Tube manufacturer reveals ‘unprecedented demand’ and ‘transportation challenges’ have affected supplies

    By Lizzie Roberts 29 August 2021 • 9:00pm

    A surge in demand for procedures delayed by the coronavirus pandemic is causing the shortage in blood test tubes, a manufacturer has said.

    GPs were instructed last week to stop all blood tests unless they were “clinically urgent”, which includes those which are essential for safe prescribing of drugs, or if there is a suspected case of sepsis.

    A letter from NHS England to doctors said the issue with supply of the tubes, which are used for collecting blood samples, “remains constrained and is forecasted to become even more constrained over the coming weeks”.

    The manufacturer, Becton Dickinson, has now revealed requests for Covid tests and routine testing for procedures delayed by the pandemic in recent months has created an “unprecedented demand” for their products.

    They added that continued “transportation challenges” have also impacted the supply and they have diverted supplies for other regions to meet demand in the UK.

    A spokesman said: “In addition to increased demand, we are seeing continued transportation challenges that have affected all industries, including port and transport capacity, air freight capacity and UK border challenges.

    “Suppliers are also challenged to meet increased demand for raw materials and components.”

    Race against time to replenish supplies

    Sources within the pharmaceutical sector told The Telegraph that the company’s Plymouth plant, which manufactures the tubes, was shut down for two weeks in August for planned maintenance.

    The company confirmed it was having to “balance” preventative maintenance on its plants while continuing to try and match demand needs.

    “All of our blood tube plants around the world are currently running at full capacity to continue to alleviate the backlog of orders,” the spokesman said.

    The NHS said it was working to find a solution, but that there is “significant pressure” on a number of similar products.

    It comes as the British Medical Association (BMA) warned doctors are reaching a “perilous point” in making decisions about whether to request blood tests for patients.

    Dr David Wrigley, deputy chairman of the BMA council, said: “This crisis has put doctors and their patients in a terrible, unenviable position. No doctor knowingly undertakes unnecessary blood tests and to now have to ration all those we are doing, as well as cancel hundreds more, goes against everything we stand for as clinicians.”

    Dr Vishal Sharma, chairman of the BMA consultants committee, added that it was “shocking” the situation “has been allowed to develop”.”

    1. It’s all my fault. I have had 19 blood tests this year and 2 more are due in September.

      I have a suspicion that the Lab was looking for one specific thing and didn’t analyse the sample for several conditions at the same time.

      The reason for this suspicion is while i am under the Haematology Consultant with regular tests, i still managed to develop a dangerous blood condition not associated with what i am being treated for.

      Becton Dickinson is a private company with their eye on the bottom line. Money.

    2. Morning Anne – “…………cancelling blood tests goes against everything we stand for as clinicians”
      What about face to face consultations with patients?
      If Plymouth is the only place test tubes are made in Britain then we need more in England and Scotland.
      The Plymouth company is a global USA company. A GB company could be set up to make test tubes and medical products and if there is one such company it should expand.
      Unsuitable, unreliable PCR blood tests have been overused in this pandemic

    3. The more I read about what is happening across vast swathes of the World the more suspicious I become when ‘shortages’ are announced. Manipulation of the populace is rife and the Biden administration’s plans for farmers to burn their crops and receive payment or refuse and be heavily punished financially only adds to my suspicions.

      Stew Peters Show – 24/08/2021

      1. Stand by for the annual announcement about shortages of turkeys and Christmas trees…

    4. My bloods are due to be taken for a meds review tomorrow. Already been cancelled once due to illness (whose illness I don’t know), but according to that article I presume it will go ahead. What a shocking state the country’s in, Anne.

      1. GPs were instructed last week to stop all blood tests unless they were “clinically urgent”, which includes those which are essential for safe prescribing of drugs, or if there is a suspected case of sepsis.

        According to that it may not go ahead. I’m due mid-September,. As I hate blood samples being taken, since my stay in hospital, I’m hoping to forgo that ‘pleasure’. Mind you, the practice has a Swedish nurse, who does it absoluto painlessly while we have a natter in her language.

  5. A Story With A Moral

    A horse and a chicken were playing in a meadow. The horse fell into a mud hole and was sinking. He called to the chicken to go and get the farmer to help pull him out.

    The chicken ran to the farm but the farmer couldn’t be found. So the chicken drove the farmer’s Mercedes back to the mud hole and tied some rope around the bumper. He threw the other end of the rope to the horse and drove the car forward and saved the horse from sinking!

    A few days later, the chicken and the horse were playing in the meadow again and the chicken fell into the mud hole. The chicken yelled to the horse to go and get some help from the farmer.

    The horse said, “I think I can stand over the hole!”

    So he stretched over the width of the hole and said, “Grab my penis and pull yourself up.”
    The chicken did and pulled himself to safety.

    The moral of the story: If you are hung like a horse, you don’t need a Mercedes to pick up chicks.

    1. The very idea of not picking up dog poo is abhorrent.

      Due to a dogs’ diet, it’s poo is acidic, and bad for the environment. For goodness sake, it’s not difficult to train them to go on a pad. Mongo misses 8 times out of ten, but hell, he can’t see the bloody thing.

      You clean up after yourself. End of story. If people think it’s ok to litter or throw their waste somewhere else, hang the [beeeeeeepppppp]ers!

      1. I taught mine, as a puppy, to go on a newspaper.
        I then taught it to wait until I’d finished reading it first

  6. Conservatives can and must save America from Biden. 30 August 2021.

    The Afghanistan debacle has been devastating for America’s standing in the world. In the last two weeks the most powerful nation on earth has been spectacularly humiliated by a brutal and barbaric Islamist movement that had been ousted from power just two decades ago. President Biden’s decline has been just as precipitous, with his approval rating now barely reaching 45 per cent.

    The Biden administration is also struggling on the economic front, addicted to a heavy-spending, big-government agenda that will saddle Americans with trillions of dollars of additional debt, raising the spectre of a dangerous surge in inflation. And in practically every aspect of American life, the Democrat presidency is advancing a “woke” racially divisive ideological agenda that is stifling freedom of speech, thought and debate in public life.

    Wow! It almost makes you wish that there had been someone else standing at the election that the MSM could have supported who opposed all these things!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/08/30/conservatives-can-must-save-america-biden/

  7. ‘Morning, Peeps.

    Headline in the DT:

    Nicola Sturgeon pinged and told to self-isolate

    The First Minister revealed that she had been identified as a close contact of a person who had tested positive for Covid-19

    Any chance we could make this permanent??

    1. Good day, Hugh – if it is a good day, which I doubt.

      I wonder if the “close contact” lives in Brussels…..(ponders)..{:¬))

      1. ‘Morning, Bill. Cool and overcast here in yer E Sussex, and no prospect of any improvement today. It is, of course, a Hank Boliday…still, we have 10 days without that monotonous whining sound from Edinburgh, so not all bad news.

  8. Morning again

    HGV drivers wanted

    SIR – If there is only one job for every 40 graduates (Business, August 28), yet the Government is hoping to fill 100,000 HGV lorry driver vacancies with UK workers, surely the answer is for graduates to take these driving jobs until their own “professional” choice becomes available. The wages would compare favourably with the average first-year graduate salary of £24,000.

    Not only would it give these graduates gainful employment, they would also be keeping the shelves in the supermarkets and other stores full.

    Michael Banks

    Bristol

    SIR – As an older HGV driver I have to renew my licence every year with a full medical report, which is fair enough. I just hope that I get my new licence from the DVLA in time to send it back to them when my next renewal is due.

    Robin Bartolomy

    Uckfield, East Sussex

    Blood pressure checks

    SIR – You report (August 24) that blood pressure checks are to be offered by pharmacies, which could be paid up to £45 for each one.

    Fortuitously, I recently bought a blood pressure monitor from Boots for £20. This is easy to use and is said to last for two years. Goodness knows how many checks I will have made on my wife and myself over that period, saving up to £45 each time.

    Would it not be preferable for the Government to distribute free monitors to all who might need them, rather than paying pharmacies?

    Jim Walker

    Mortimer, Berkshire

    1. I take my BP every other day before breakfast. My BP monitor is well over 2 years old and only needs 4 AA batteries to keep it going. I use Duracell batteries which last well over a year. The pharmacies are getting more medical work to do. The Doctors seem to be giving away their nurses to the private sector. The nurses in my doctor’s practice do the blood tests, ear cleaning, check BP and do ECGs. £45 for a BP test in a pharmacy is a rip off and should be stopped.
      A BP test takes about 2 minutes.

      1. Specsaver for the eyes. Pharmacist for BP. No ear cleaning available.

        Sounds like privatisation to me.

        1. Why get someone else to clean your ears? We follow the Vikings, who made ear-spoons, for excavating the listening tube. In case of extreme problems, warm salty water works well – applied, so far, about once every 10 years.
          It’s not difficult – just fon’t ram the spoon into the ear like you are digging the garden.

          1. Last time i needed my ears syringed i was a child.

            We have been told for many years not to put anything in our ears and that includes cotton buds.

            Do you save up the excess wax for candles? :@)

          2. Cotton buds don’t scoop the wax outwards, but can push it in. Ear spoon ladles it out.

  9. Passion killers

    SIR – I have always found that wearing socks and sandals (Letters, August 28) is a cheap and effective form of contraception.

    Julian Badenoch

    Cowes, Isle of Wight

    Afghan aftermath

    SIR – Until last year I was a senior Army officer in the Parachute Regiment and completed several tours in Afghanistan between 2002 and 2010.

    Like most people, I could see that we could not remain in Afghanistan indefinitely and that the Afghans had to take responsibility for their future at some point. However, to initiate the final withdrawal so abruptly and without having put sufficient contingency plans in place to cope with the inevitable chaos was obviously a serious error.

    However, to me and many soldiers who fought in Afghanistan, it is ironic to hear the media criticising British troops’ departure, as it has spent two decades questioning our presence and vilifying our actions there.

    On the persistent “Was it worth it?” question, soldiers do not think like that. They don’t pick wars, they fight them, and they certainly don’t weigh-up whether it is worth it before participating. We fight for our comrades, our units and our country, which to us are always worth it.

    Some of the Afghans who worked for us also worked for the Taliban, probably more than we know about, and we need to be extremely careful about who we allow to settle in the UK.

    The Afghan special forces units that we trained were tough, professional, well-motivated and highly effective. However, the regular Afghan National Army and police that I came across were almost invariably of low combat value. They were often incapacitated through drug use, frequently preyed on the civilian population and were reluctant to confront the enemy. I had to stop one of my soldiers attacking an Afghan policeman we were patrolling with after he opened fire on a civilian because he wanted his shoes.

    To say the withdrawal of US military support caused the Afghan National Army to fail is simply untrue. While I accept that a collapse in logistic support, pay and senior leadership meant that the Afghan army’s ability to endure was going to be limited, it ultimately failed because, unlike us, its soldiers were not prepared to fight for their country.

    Mark

    SIR – As a former officer in the Royal Marines, I am at a loss to explain how we once again find ourselves involved in a political and military disaster.

    Why do these things happen when we have highly experienced diplomats, politicians and military leaders? Why do we never learn from history?

    If the military planning was as good as I know it can be, why was this advice ignored or discarded? And why do we waste so much money on military developments that are too often hugely over budget and late on delivery?

    Duncan Christie-Miller

    Teddington, Middlesex

    SIR – Boris Johnson and his government have had more than a year to extricate vulnerable Afghans. We have to hope the Taliban have changed, otherwise we have blood on our hands.

    Brian Bailey

    Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire

    SIR – What hope is there for vital intelligence gathering in Afghanistan, or elsewhere, if we cannot honour our promise to protect the brave Afghans who risk their lives to supply it?

    Athena Strutt

    Stutton, Suffolk

    SIR – As the Americans have apparently given the Taliban 600,000 weapons – and ammunition – some of which are sure to find their way to this country, is it not time to arm and train all British police rather than rely on armed response officers?

    Justin Smith

    Salisbury, Wiltshire

    1. “Why do these things happen when we have highly experienced diplomats,
      politicians and military leaders? Why do we never learn from history?”Well, Duncan, we might have had highly experienced diplomats etc at one time, but now we only have the woke who are employed/promoted according to tick-box quotas, rather than merit. As for why we never learn from history, the woke are always re-writing it.

  10. 338252+ up ticks,

    Dt,
    Afghans fleeing after August 31 will get safe passage to do so, Taliban ‘assures’ Britain

    Joint statement signed by 90 countries claim militant group will allow foreign nationals and Afghan citizens to leave safely beyond deadline

    They, the new occupiers are arranging for a list to be opened no doubt for the leavers, present name / address & contact number so as to organise their flight in an orderly manner.

    A packed lunch for in-flight is also being considered.

  11. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/939e695c918eb23cc28a00e47b0f2892d94d0d9e273306fce800bc3aae60ac90.png

    Higher Management of Southern Water: “I’ve thought up a great wheeze. Let’s identify one of the oldest and most respected food industries in the country — one that produces wonderful, delicious, nutritious, world-famous seafood — and kill it off by dumping millions of gallons of untreated human shit all over it. Guffaw! Guffaw!”

    Please give me the opportunity of dumping the Higher Management of Southern Water into a deep tank of their own slurry for a few months. I’m sure they will find sufficent sustenance within to keep them going!

  12. 338252+ up ticks,

    Dt,
    Could it in reality be a cry for help, showing out as a fit of honesty in a very public spot ?

    Lest we forget a drowning mans wave was a signal for help.

    Michael Gove spotted raving at Aberdeen nightclub
    The Cabinet Office minister, who was described as ‘merry’ by eyewitnesses, was filmed in a suit flailing his arms and dancing

  13. And another Good Morning from a dull & overcast Derbyshire.
    Dry and a pleasantly cool 10°C outside.

  14. Th shambles that is the DVLA has been known about for a couple of years.

    Why on earth hasn’t the smirking wanqueur Shatts done something about it – instead of pontificating about whether we can go on holiday or not?

    1. I discovered the other day that the chairman of the transport select committee is none other than my (Tory, allegedly) MP. However, this has yet to have any effect in his chasing up my application of three months ago. I can imagine that the boat is unlikely to be rocked in this situation.

    2. I discovered the other day that the chairman of the transport select committee is none other than my MP. However, this has yet to have any effect in his chasing up my application of three months ago. I can imagine that the boat is unlikely to be rocked in this situation.

    1. Was the original track and trace deemed too close to the original intent for the marketing bods?

    1. I woke just before 3 to pump bilges then, when trying to get back to sleep, realised I’d not left a note to increase the milk order to allow for Still at Home being back from working away!!

      1. I hope your milk delivery is more reliable than ours has been the last few weeks. It was fine till a few weeks ago.

        1. He’s excellent.
          I was adding a note to the one I’d left with the milk money when he arrived.
          It was a lovely morning at 03:00.

          1. I don’t know what’s happened to ours. He used to come around midnight twice a week. Hasn’t been now for three weeks. They just say it’s ” circumstances beyond their control “. I assume he’s left and they haven’t got a replacement.

  15. Afghanistan proves the hubristic West is getting the world wrong
    Liberals who think they can export their values everywhere are making the globe more dangerous

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/08/29/afghanistan-proves-hubristic-west-getting-world-wrong/

    BTL Comment

    Leave the Taliban alone but if they try to kill us make sure we kill them before they do.

    It seems to be becoming abundantly clear that societies based on Judeo-Christian values cannot co-exist peacefully and happily with Islam.

    Do we need a sort of apartheid?

    1. ” societies based on Judeo-Christian values cannot co-exist peacefully and happily with Islam.”

      Russia must be the exception.They have done it for Centuries!

        1. This always comes up .Check it out..the information is all there.
          They were not Chechens who fought the Russians but the forerunners of ISIS.
          It was a Chechen Muslim (Akhmat Kodyrov) who went to Putin and helped plot their dowwnfall.

          1. Fair enough. Let’s hope we have public spirited Moslems in Blighty helping …. oh, cripes … that’ll be Johnson or Patel.
            I’ll get me burkha.

          2. I feel a bit sorry for him. He maybe thought his job was going to be to fly first class to nice hotels and have chats with nice people in other countries. Instead he is so far out of his depth that he drowned some time ago but has only just realised it. A calm look at things would assure him that there is no way he could have done anything useful. Nothing he could have said or done would have made any difference as no one has ever paid him the slightest attention.
            Nor is there the remotest chance of replacing him with someone else. Who would take the job?

      1. A few issues.
        The majority of Muslims in Russia live in areas where they are the majority, and after the break up of the Soviet union many proclaimed independence.
        Those Muslims have been there for centuries, they are not recent imports from the ME and North Africa.
        Russia doesn’t bend over backwards to encourage incomers who do not integrate nor kowtow to their demands. Where “modern”, (a strange word to use for the cult), Muslims have arrived trouble has followed.
        Chechnya suggests that given half a chance they will turn on their neighbours.

        http://islam.ru/en/content/story/islam-russia

    2. We know they want to kill us. Our leaving them alone – which we have done – hasn’t stopped them killing us. Heck, when they do ill us, the BBC wheel them out to say how good they are and how awful we are to them – despite a massive welfare bill, endless healthcare, child benefit, pensions, food, fuel and whatever else the gimmigrant soaks from the tax payer while that same tax payer is derided, ignored and insulted by the same BBC, losing everything they’ve worked for when the state’s own incompetent greed and mismanagement decides to take it from them.

    3. Leave out the peacefully and happily – we kuffars can’t exist with islam; it’s their duty to enslave us or kill us if we don’t submit.

  16. But it’s perfectly all right for the BBC to promote – or at least give blanket coverage of – XR, BLM or the moribund successor to Nazism?

    Dominic Lawson in the DM.

    “A BBC tip is OK… as long as it’s on a horse

    Have you ever wondered why there are no programmes on TV or radio about investment in the stock market?

    Given how much of our savings are wrapped up in its frequently mystifying movements, and how it provides vital finance to British business, this absence is odd.

    So odd, in fact, that Lord Lee of Trafford, a champion of small investors, has tabled a parliamentary question on this matter.

    Lord Lee pointed out that with the increase in young and inexperienced people trading in shares online, it is more vital than ever that broadcasters address this matter (newspapers have always done so).

    It seems the problem is a regulatory one. Executives feel fettered by rules set by the broadcasting overseer Ofcom, which in turn cites the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000.

    One broadcaster explained: ‘We are constrained by strict regulation in this area: we have to stop short of promoting, recommending or appearing to recommend particular shares and investments.’

    As Lord Lee argues, it is ‘ludicrous’ that such an attitude is taken when at the same time the amount of gambling advertisements on British commercial TV is monstrous.

    And not only do the vast majority of gamblers lose money, a losing bet sees the entire investment forfeited immediately: that’s the equivalent of a stock market-quoted company going bankrupt the same day that you bought shares in it.

    Here’s my (non-parliamentary) question: if it is against the rules for broadcasters to make anything which could be construed as a share tip, how is it that Radio 4’s Today programme is free to give racing tips daily?

    I can even recall that Today’s slot on the BBC website once displayed an ‘Ascot Tipster Challenge’, giving extensive details of the performance of various tipsters across the week’s racing.

    In fact, nine years ago, the programme’s sports presenter, Garry Richardson, launched an email poll of listeners to find out if they wanted the programme to continue with the racing tips. This (self-selecting) poll returned a clear majority in favour of continuing.

    I still think there’s something perverse in a national broadcaster which encourages pure gambling but thinks it’s dodgy to give the British people advice on responsible investment.”

    1. If people were taught even basic economics they start to realise just how damaged this country is, and what needed to be done to repair it. Government is desperate for people to remain ignorant.

      1. No wonder people are in debt and can’t clear it; they don’t understand compound interest.

  17. 338252+ up ticks,
    Your children’s / grandchildren’s future is being mapped out NOW
    with / without your consent.

    8th June 2017 was IMO truly the day we entered the entrance door of the
    political maelstrom and definitely Not the exit door of Brexit.

    We have continued in a daily spiral since.

    breitbart,
    Conservative Govt Invites 20,000 Afghans to UK in Coming Years

    Aiding those in need is a very commendable issue, too much of it WILL have the helpers on par with the needers, resulting in NOBODY getting help.

    Advice take or leave, think before you vote, what has my party done for the Country / me then vote accordingly.

  18. Good morning all

    13c and cloudy .

    Not that any of you would like to know, but I am wearing my winter jimjams to bed now .

    It has been very cold with a keen wind , and still is rather chilly. Moh is playing golf , not in his shorts !

        1. At least Belle isn’t wearing jodhpurs in her charpoy.
          I wonder of she’ll shampoo her hair when she gets up?

          1. …before stepping out on to the veranda of her bungalow. I know that she lives in a 5-bedroom house

        1. Good morning, Maggie.

          Clothing (of any type) under bedsheets (or duvets) makes me overheat and feel trussed like a turkey.

      1. Pyjamas, George. Which our American friends insist on spelling as pajamas – ignoramuses not understanding etymology.

        1. I know exactly what they are, Tom. My question was rhetorical, as well as tongue-in-cheek).

  19. OT – we had an “Aahh” moment yesterday. In France we used to buy broccoli plants from the local, family-run nursery. It was a brilliant variety that produced one large head and then continued to grow side heads for months. I could not remember what the variety was called. The nursery doesn’t have a website of e-mail address – BUT the are on Facebook. The MR tweeted (or whatever it is called) them at 7 pm yesterday. At 7.05 the answer came back: “Green Belt”. Th MR thanked them, saying that we were old customers now, sadly out of France. By return, the reply. “I know – I recognised you.” We were last there in Aug 2019. A couple of tears were wiped away.

    You can get Green Belt seeds on e-bay.

    1. Uncle Bill There wont be enough green belt and agricultural land left where one can grow anything if our stoopid government allows thousands of other cultures to keep up the invasion.

  20. 338252+ up ticks,
    The proven political, dangerous, overseers are contemplating bringing the war to your door, within the UK,

    Dt,
    Afghan commandos could fight for British Army like Gurkhas
    Government considering proposals to create brand new regiment consisting of Afghan special forces troops evacuated from Kabul

    A slap in the kisser for every Gurkha that has ever / are serving.

    1. Ah, of course. Create a new UK led regiment of traitors and liars who have been trained to kill. A regiment that cannot be trusted individually or as a group, composed from the same people who turned on their own side in their own country and shot dead their comrades. When the going got tough in the last few weeks they ran away. They tick all the boxes for the British Army of today, it seems.
      Unlike the Ghurkas who are loyal, trustworthy, and brave beyond measure.

  21. Girls’ school allows crop tops to stop ‘victim blaming’.

    ‘It is about the safety of women … it’s about focusing on society and making society safer.’

    A GIRLS’ school has revoked its dress code ban on revealing clothes such as crop tops, in an attempt to combat “victim-blaming” following the murder of Sarah Everard.

    Putney High School, south-west London, allows sixth-formers to wear their own clothes, but until now stipulated that students must be “sensibly dressed with no bare midriff, no bare shoulders and no ‘torn’ clothing”. From next month, these restrictions will be lifted at the £19,000-a-year school.

    Putney High School’s headmistress, Suzie Longstaff, said that it was the murder of the 33-year-old marketing executive in London in March this year that triggered the change.

    “It was very much driven by the death of Sarah Everard. Putney High School is located quite close to Clapham so it really touched a nerve with the students,” said the headmistress, who added that many of the students had attended the Clapham Common vigil to Miss Everard, who was raped and killed by an off-duty police officer.

    Mrs Longstaff said that sixth-formers had asked the school to review the dress guidelines “in the light of Sarah Everard’s death, because the nuance and the narrative has changed in modern parlance on dress code”. “Victimblaming” is the suggestion that a woman brought a sexual assault upon herself by her clothing or demeanour.

    “It is about the safety of women, and instead of saying, ‘you can’t walk down that street or you can’t wear those clothes’, actually it’s about focusing on society and making society safer,” Mrs Longstaff said.

    Mrs Longstaff also hopes that easing the dress code rules will deal with fears about body image. She added: “If you are telling a student off for their uniform, is it because of their body shape?”

    Mrs Longstaff said that the dress code changes were not related to the Everyone’s Invited movement, in which anonymous testimonies of public school students’ experiences of sexual harassment spread across the internet.

    However, she did describe Putney High’s change of policy as part of a wider shift: “It’s about society finding its way in the new normal, post-covid, post-sarah Everard, post-everyone’s Invited, with what is the right language to use around dress and expectations?”

    BTL:

    The tenuous connections between a murder and a woman’s clothing as a reason for a school revoking its dress code staggers me. Call me old fashioned if you like, but I still think a standard school uniform looks better than a “come as you are” garb. It’s the same in a shop – I expect to be served by smartly dressed assistants, not someone who looks as if they’ve been dragged in from the gutter.

    I sent both my children to private schools partly because they had a school uniform so children of poorer parents could not be particularly identified. This applied to both the boy and the girl. It is not the job of a woke teacher to change the rules and it has nothing to do with sexual attraction.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d082c26d96a6626f92b99e154ef8c1b7e4c53025e9735450200656035d9ea538.png

    Is this an acceptable “school uniform” Ms Wokestaff? Time to weed out all that is “woke”, methinks.

    1. As Sarah was killed on a winter evening I doubt if she was exposing much flesh. Surely her sad murder is not relevant to to school uniform?

      1. Any bandwagon will do to justify a retrograde left wing decision.

        George Floyd being a shining example.

    2. OTOH, we can’t let the enemy win one slice at a time. They accuse women of dressing “immodestly”: dress even less modestly!

    3. In the 80’s and 90’s most young women went bare-breasted on the beach. Now the Daily Mail publishes photos of bare breasted girls with little black patches over their nipples.
      That’s progress?

          1. So are breasts – shown in full; bums – and other parts of the body frequently splayed across screens and newspapers.

            There just seems to be a quaint coyness about nipples – as though we are not supposed to know they exist.

    4. Is Ms. Longstaff actually a suitable head for a private school? Apart from the really weirdo ones like Millfield.
      I doubt the parents of Putney High School girls pay £19,000 p.a. so their daughters can dress like hookers during school hours. And that £19,000 would be the starter price.

    5. Blimey, Grizz! I was at a GDST school in Newcastle, and my parents would have gone ballistic if our headmistress (Miss C. Russell) had said we could wear stuff like that! A sensible beige or brown turtle neck jumper, and clumpy brown lace-ups were the order of the ‘wear what you like’ day!

      1. Good morning, Mrs Macfarlane.

        I’m struggling of think of ANY area in public life that is moving on in a positive way. Everywhere I look I am seeing distinct and clear signs of regression.

        1. The lack of any forethought for their actions, is staggering! And then the inevitable cry of ‘well, I never thought that would happen!’ as if it should have come as any surprise to anyone with a working brain cell!
          Ah! Now I see the problem…!

        2. Vesta curries aren’t on the shelves any more. That’s a positive. Hold on to that when times get dark.

      2. Among other fetching items, we had to wear grey cardigans. My mother couldn’t get mine dry enough in time for Monday morning, so I was sent to the staff room to explain matters.

        1. Sounds familiar! I spent many a happy hour outside the staffroom or headmistress’s office…!

      3. My school was even stricter; there was no such thing as a “wear what you like” day! School uniform it was every day of the year – and woe betide you if your shoes weren’t cleaned and your tie wasn’t properly done up.

  22. Morning all, Reference to the enquiry yesterday about the welfare of Elf & Safety, aka Hatter, here is a reply form my email to him.
    What a nice and genuine chap he is. But sadly as I guess many elderly people are these days,………. suffering.

    Paul happy Saturday

    Forgive me for the late reply & your very kind words, I am not well & was off line yesterday.
    I have had a severe migraine headache since Friday morning as well as intense backache since last Tuesday .
    Having both together is a double whammy for me as it forces me to choose between taking a medicine called Acamol Focus for the migraine or a pain killer for my back, either an Etopan 600mg prescription pill ( which I am out of right now ) or Advil, I can’t take both together or I have an adverse reaction to the combination which includes diarrhea & stomach pains, so I took Acamol to help lessen the severity of the migraine attack leaving me with the backache.
    I am today Saturday 28/8 still taking Acamol as the migraine attack can last a week or two & rubbing Voltaren Forte gel on my lower left back, it helps a bit but works best in combo with a pain killer
    As such I am not posting on the net & I am taking a complete break from posting till I feel well enough to return to my own blogs I hope in a week or so but I will not be returning to NTTL for the foreseeable future.
    Wishing you & family well, my regards to all on NTTL, you can inform them of the contents of this mail
    All the best
    Pud in Tel Aviv

    1. Poor old Pud/Hat/Elf. A week migraine? That’s horrible!
      Pass on best wishes, please, Eddy.

    2. Thank you, Eddy.
      Pud is a funny and lively poster and we miss him.
      I can well understand that, in those circumstances, staring at a bright screen and churning out the funnies is not exactly top of his list.

    3. Ready, please tell him this. If he can find a bio-feedback practitioner in Tel Aviv he should at least talk to them. My mother in law was the head of John Muir Medical Center, one of the top hospitals in California and the trauma centre for the East bay of the San Francisco area, Bio-feedback was their default treatment for Migraine sufferers. It is highly effective and once you get a hang of it you can easily head off attacks. The bio-feedback machine is used so you can control attacks. You don’t need a machine once you have trained on it.

      1. I told him of the problems I had with my lower back in the early 2004 – 5 and recommended the guy I saw at Stanmore orthopaedic hospital who is now resident consultant surgeon at the Wellington in London. Backs are difficult areas, i’m not actually sure exactly what Hatters ailment is.
        But to all, I will send him your best wishes he deserves it, he was a good Nottler.

    4. Ready, please tell him this. If he can find a bio-feedback practitioner in Tel Aviv he should at least talk to them. My mother in law was the head of John Muir Medical Center, one of the top hospitals in California and the trauma centre for the East bay of the San Francisco area, Bio-feedback was their default treatment for Migraine sufferers. It is highly effective and once you get a hang of it you can easily head off attacks. The bio-feedback machine is used so you can control attacks. You don’t need a machine once you have trained on it.

    1. I suspect one could do similarly in many parts of the UK and contrast them with what is there now.

          1. There is also a growing number of areas where the police daren’t go either. – oddly enough, usually full of immigrants.

          2. We accidentally wandered into the ‘wrong area’ in Perpignan (in the car). It was change in the surrounding atmosphere immediately that we first noticed, it was quite remarkable.

        1. No, I’m telling you.

          For certain sections of the community there are areas where they would be in serious danger of assault, or worse, if they didn’t fit the approved profile.

        1. When I had the practice in So’ton, every summer before ’79 I had a steady trickle of (private) Persian patients who were visiting relatives in England. They were delightful people & I learnt some very basic Farsi – mostly forgotten now.

    2. It is already happening here. The only thing needed is enough of them.

      Begs the question of why our government is importing them at break-neck speed.

      1. Yesterday evening om localbeeb radio the Asian presenters were on for pushing Sheffield council for more Muslim burial space ( nobody else – just muslim – so much for integration ) as “theres going to be a massive surge in 40 years”.

      2. These people ‘need’ the state. They can’t function without massive amounts of public money.

        Government likes wasting money. It’s tried for decades to destroy the nuclear family, the continuation of wealth, the accumulation of capital. By importing tens of millions of scroungers it has succeeded where all other approaches of tax and law failed.

      1. If they had any sense they would have got out when they could see which way the wind was blowing.

        1. They were members of an educated, urban elite.
          They still had ‘sisters’ living in mediaeval squalor in the villages.

    3. What a terrible shame that so called religion forced the people of the middle east into purgatory. Now coming rapidly to a town or city near ‘YOU’. Financed and sponsored by our own infernally stupid governments with of course lashings of tax payers money. Until we are stony broke.
      I wonder how the B reg Ford Anglia managed to get there.

      1. I wonder if that Ford Anglia may have had Afghani number plates, as it’s left hand drive.

      2. I used to walk past a B-reg Ford Anglia every day on my way to school. I often wondered if BRA 38B referred to its owner.

      3. Good afternoon, Paul

        We have a very civilised Turkish friend called Ali who is nominally Muslim. He enjoys a glass of wine and a pork chop.

        When it was not certain whether Turkey would go Muslim or Christian Ali is vehement in stating that it was a great mistake that it went Muslim. The Hagia Sophia in Constantinople was originally originally a Christian cathedral before it became a museum and Erdogan has now turned it unequivocally into a mosque.

  23. Good Morning to all! Although this wasn’t a letter in the Telegraph but contained in an article it is well worth posting. It is an extract from the article: “Are GPs who refuse face to face appointments breaking the law?”

    “Still it is worth noting that GPs who fail to make the necessary arrangements for patients to make an appointment without having to spend hours on the phone, or who are unavailable for face to face consultation are, in sensu stricto, breaking the law.

    The relevant legislation is enshrined in Section 250 of the Health and Social Care Act 2012, subsequently elaborated in the NHS Accessible Information Standard. This established that, as from August 1 2016, GPs had a specific legal duty to have “a consistent approach to meeting the information and communication needs of their patients”. The main (and highly commendable) intent of the legislation was to ensure that the hard of hearing, visibly impaired, mentally ill and others should not be excluded from receiving appropriate medical care by virtue of their disability. Nonetheless, the same principle applies to a considerable proportion of the older age group who have “communication difficulties”.”

    1. I think, that the provision of Translators (for incomers who refuse to learn English) had a gret deal to do with the law

      and others should not be excluded from receiving appropriate medical care by virtue of their disability.

      1. I live in France.

        I would happily take a test in French if my residence here required it.

        Why is it not obligatory for immigrants to Britain to be able to communicate in English?

        1. Indeed, Richard. And all official forms in France are in French. Not in 57 other languages too.

        2. Not just that but there should also be required classes in British culture. Holding open doors for the person behind you, forming orderly queues, not raping wee girls, speak when you are spoken to, pay fares on public transport, observe “no smoking” and “no spitting” signs, don’t blow people up, return library books on time, smile and say “Good Morning”.

          1. “Educating” a mass influx of savages is a waste of time – and an even bigger waste of money and our land, nation and culture. The arrivals do NOT want OUR lives, they want THEIRS – in OUR country, paid for by us – and they are getting it ALL. They have no respect or thought for who pays, nor the damage they cause.
            As for holding doors open, something I do, I find it is very rarely done for me, even by British people.

          2. Yes, that is what is happening. It is the zeitgeist. A tsunami of woke, a tidal wave of empowered insanity. Now what?

          1. But the Scandinavians speak English – most of the French do not.

            My wife, Caroline, who is multi-lingual speaks four languages so well that the English think she is English, the French think she is French, the Spanish think she is Spanish and the Dutch think she is Dutch; when she tries to speak Italian they tell her she has a Spanish accent. I only have to say “Bonjour” and the French can tell immediately that I am English.

          2. Listening to my two lads change language, it’s not just the words and the intonations, but the voice.
            English is “foggy”, whereas a Norwegian voice has edges to it. (Can’t describe better than that, I’m afraid, but when you hear it, you’ll know what I mean).

          3. I know what you mean. When I speak Russian my voice changes – tone, depth, colour – not just intonation and accent. My Russian accent (according to native speakers) is good – and so it should be; my tutor put the fear of God into me in one-to-one seminars in Russian phonetics.

          4. Languages are often a result of changing the ‘shape’ of your mouth – my ex, every time she returned to Sweden found that she had to change from her English mouth to the Swedish one, in order to pronounce correctly.

            Try mimicking accents and note how your mouth changes to accommodate the new one.

          5. Not all Scandis speak English by a long way. Out in the sticks where I lived & worked in Sweden, English was a rarity except among a few educated people.
            I communicated in Swedish, as I had been trained to do on a 5-month intensive course in Kiel, Germany (8 hours a day, 4 days per week), & that was only the beginning. I improved on that by reading all the Wallander books in Swedish (I still have them in the garage). Btw, I spoke Swedish with a German accent.

            When I lived in Germany, I communicated in German, even more than once in a court of law.

          6. SWMBO speaks Norwegian with a German accent… weird, that. And not all Norwegians speak good Englist – there’s less of it in the country, and there are still some locations where the second language is German.

          7. Yes, I used German quite a lot in Kopperberg, of cider fame, where I worked. Because the whole area is rich in metal ores, it was settled by German miners in the 19th century. As were parts of Chile, e.g. Valdivia, where the teenage daughters of my host attended a local German school.

          8. When I was travelling in Greece I used German a lot (and French with the mother of one of the Greek friends I was staying with). I only have a few words of Greek.

          9. I have a few words of many languages: “Two beers, please”. Not good for directions or discussion of relative cultures, but at least I won’t be thirsty!

        3. What worries me most about the dinghies and the airlifts is not just that we will have to cater for so many nonEnglish speakers, but that we are building a huge population who communicate with each other in a language WE don’t understand.

    1. 338281+ up ticks,
      O2O,

      breitbart,
      UK Border Force Admits Some Afghan Evacuees Have
      Forged Papers

      Gettaway,
      Bent papers and a pocketful of poppy seeds, still every one is a vote for the future, reset, replace is looking rosy.

      1. 338281+ up ticks,
        Afternoon NtN,
        I agree, thinking not in the polling booth has been a major problem for decades.

        To me supporting / voting for the lab/lib/con
        continually has made a difference as we are witnessing so the reverse can be achieved.

    2. Morning all.

      I didn’t think he sounded angry enough but then that’s me. What a wonderful scamdemic this has been for complete control of the population. I wonder who’s become richer because of the jabs in the arms, the PPE, the publicity etc. etc. Not you or I, most definitely!

    3. The bit I don’t understand is that the vaccine only helps the vaccinated. Why are people so eager for others to be vaccinated? It won’t help them.

      From the outset we’ve been lied to. About the danger of the virus, the death rate, the vaccine – the works. Without the truth you cannot make informed decisions so people just do as they are told, believing, falsely, that it’s the ‘right’ thing to do.

  24. From today’s DT letters:
    The biggest problem facing GPs is that there are not enough to provide the service that is expected. As the number has declined, the workload has increased, which is why many are not able to work full time.

    BTL

    Why did so many doctors take early retirement in their late 50’s?

    Best ask Gideon Osborne who changed the pension rules which meant it was not in doctors’ best interests to continue working as they would effectiverly be punished for doing so.

    1. Earlier I attributed that lunacy to New Labour. It seems I was mistaken, it was NL’s heirs.

  25. Not enough GPs? – with 800+ freeloaders able to walk in every day, getting free, time and money consuming treatment, what the hell do they expect? We CANNOT accommodate, absorb, house, feed, treat, etc etc the whole effin world.

    1. Fear not – there are thousands of highly qualified doctors and surgeons (and vets) arriving from Afghanistan.

          1. Ah, but that, I’m afraid, is your fault – you have been too lenient and not established yourself sufficiently as pack leader 🙂

  26. There are letters in the DT and The Grimes from GPs banging on about the “stress” and “burnout” etc etc.

    I wonder what the single practice Dr Vosper in Stanmore in 1944 would have thought. Not only did he have surgeries six days a week – he also did small operations in the cottage hospital AND make house calls – day and night – seven days a week.

    1. Good morning Bill

      Just been able to access the DT letters ..

      What do you think of this ?

      Afghan aftermath
      SIR – Until last year I was a senior Army officer in the Parachute Regiment and completed several tours in Afghanistan between 2002 and 2010.

      Like most people, I could see that we could not remain in Afghanistan indefinitely and that the Afghans had to take responsibility for their future at some point. However, to initiate the final withdrawal so abruptly and without having put sufficient contingency plans in place to cope with the inevitable chaos was obviously a serious error.

      However, to me and many soldiers who fought in Afghanistan, it is ironic to hear the media criticising British troops’ departure, as it has spent two decades questioning our presence and vilifying our actions there.

      On the persistent “Was it worth it?” question, soldiers do not think like that. They don’t pick wars, they fight them, and they certainly don’t weigh-up whether it is worth it before participating. We fight for our comrades, our units and our country, which to us are always worth it.

      Some of the Afghans who worked for us also worked for the Taliban, probably more than we know about, and we need to be extremely careful about who we allow to settle in the UK.

      The Afghan special forces units that we trained were tough, professional, well-motivated and highly effective. However, the regular Afghan National Army and police that I came across were almost invariably of low combat value. They were often incapacitated through drug use, frequently preyed on the civilian population and were reluctant to confront the enemy. I had to stop one of my soldiers attacking an Afghan policeman we were patrolling with after he opened fire on a civilian because he wanted his shoes.

      To say the withdrawal of US military support caused the Afghan National Army to fail is simply untrue. While I accept that a collapse in logistic support, pay and senior leadership meant that the Afghan army’s ability to endure was going to be limited, it ultimately failed because, unlike us, its soldiers were not prepared to fight for their country.

      Mark Christie
      Warminster, Wiltshire

      1. Then they come bac to find the very enemy they fought pouring across the channel and being fed and clothed by the state, along with a bunch of moronic Lefties whinging and deriding everything they fought for.

      2. A good summary of what we have been upagainst for the past twenty years. Silk purses, sows’ ears.

    2. Less paperwork, no maoism, and not much variety of medicine available in 1944. Therefore life was simpler and shorter.

        1. ‘Morning Bill, I too remember that smell (a gauzy food strainer turned up on my face and ether-soaked handkerchief sized material over it, while stitches were removed from my hernia operation wound)I was all of 3 years old in 1947.

      1. Much less management as well, that seems to be the area where so much becomes bogged down.

        1. I don’t think TOTP exists any more. It was only 40 and 50 somethings that were watching it so of course they don’t count as important and it was axed.

          1. I watched the last ever TOTP – nothing like the programme that I recalled from decades before.

    1. Apparently this song is about the jabs – but it could apply just as well to immigration.

  27. It is imperative that the British government continues to bring in as many Afghan interpreters as possible before the Taliban have full control of the borders. When the slaughter of the indigenous population begins in earnest there will be several million refugees clamouring for asylum in the UK and Europe (France mainly, while they wait their turn on the GB Coastguard ferry system). Who is going to process their claims for food, clothing, accommodation and mosque building if we don’t have the requisite number of interpreters? Have a heart, Boris, and get those giant aircraft back to Kabul and earn your Nobel Peace prize and subsequent knighthood, earldom even. (Mz IM Woke. Letter to the Times).

    1. Infuriatingly there are plenty of people who think this way. They’re nuts, obviously.

      1. One charity worker here was demanding that ANYONE from Afghanistan MUST be allowed to come here . . . ALL 40 million?? – – not an ounce of sense in his comment. I suppose the next country can all come here as well – – and the next – – and the – –

  28. Afghanistan collapsed because corruption had hollowed out the state. 30 August 2021.

    The Afghan state and army was in large part a facade, held up only by the American occupation, and it’s no surprise that Afghans were unwilling to fight and die for it any longer. But its failure isn’t on them. Afghanistan fell because after looting all they could from the country, American and Afghan elites gave up and fled, leaving the Afghan people behind. Who would fight for a broken system?

    This of course will be the eventual fate of the UK when it has been bled dry and is no longer a viable state. The Political Elites will flee and what is left will fall into the hands of The Caliphate!

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/30/afghanistan-us-corruption-taliban

    1. Eventually, there will be nowhere else left to flee to. Then all the money on the planet will be no use whatsoever.

    1. SCUM – imported SCUM
      But . . but . . They have come here to enrich . . . .themselves.

      They should ALL be instantly marked for deportation – no ifs – -nothing, no lawyers – OUT.
      A burden and a danger to the people whose taxes are paying for their eternal holiday.

        1. I hope the housing officers are gorgeous young white English females who welcome these freeloading scumbags.

          1. Much as I appreciate the sentiment, sending ignorant, immature women in to be raped repeatedly is not something I’d countenance.

          2. Why would they be raped? These fine young gentlemen are deprived hard working surgeons just looking for a chance to show their skills and have a “better life” – or in reality – move to the UK, where robbing richer people pays better after asking them to “donate your stuff” or else they show their surgeon skills with something sharp.

        2. May I remind you of the reason that I and many thousands of others who voted for you at the last election. YOU PROMISED TO STOP THIS
          Well done Boros you useless git.

          1. My hands (and conscience) are clean; I didn’t vote for any of the wastrels in Westminster.

          2. I’m afraid i was sucked in because it was suggested that Labour were homing in. But I will never vote again.

          3. If you never vote again, Eddy, it means apathy wins and that’s rarely a good result. Try and find an independent or at the very least spoil your ballot paper by writing None Of The Above on it. Spoiled papers are counted. If there are more spoiled papers than there are votes for candidates, someone ought to take notice.

        3. Clucking bell. More statist officials for roles that shouldn’t be necessary because of yet more state incompetence.

          It’s time to nuke it. Not Afghan, that’s not the enemy. Fat, useless, moronic state is the real enemy.

    2. Those bastards, and all of their ilk, need strafing with machine-gun fire. After all, it is what they understand where they come from.

      Does anyone have Guy Fawkes’ descendants’ email address?

      1. No, but I’m tempted to become him. Been reading about the ‘deliberate deprivation of assets’ nonsense. Frankly, it is state theft for their incompetence.

        Yet again, big government thinks it has an automatic right to private wealth. It does NOT.

      1. The other two couldn’t be bothered. As for the 3 arrested – a load of money spent, told they are not to do it again, then awarded cash compensation for upsetting them as they didn’t know our customs

          1. Followed by a tearful claim of “I’ll be persecuted back home for this crime if you deport me , please let me stay here, a danger and massive financial burden to everyone else ” OK – housed, NHS and benefits for life – be a good boy from now on !!!

    3. Round them up, chain them together and throw them back to France.

      We cannot have this dross in the country.

      It goes back to the headline. The lack of GPs is not the problem. Too many people is.

      1. New Labour making it uneconomic for GPs not to take early retirement didn’t help, either.

    4. What else would you expect? The girls were lucky they weren’t raped. Once these people become acquainted with what is comically called the Law they will graduate to more offensive behaviour. Whole neighbourhoods will become no-go areas and their very presence will spread fear! Soon you will be cowering in your homes dreading the knock at the door!

    5. 800+ a day of these scum – and they get free lives – for behaving like this. I hope all our MPs become victims of what they welcome.

    6. We get told to keep the pavements clean by picking up our dogs poop. Then the govt imports these to replace it.

  29. Apparently Glove tried to get into the night club without paying the fiver entrance fee – saying that he was the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster..

    What a chap, eh? Leadership material….

    1. I cannot imagine that any self-respecting woman would want to be picked up by this odiously unattractive little creep.

  30. What is it with Clive Anderson? Radio 4 Loose Ends is always packed with blecks, gays, reds, rappers, IRA recruiters, Scots Gnats, rabid remainers and people who seem to spend a lot of time in the local parks with their doggies. I know he was unfortunate to have been born half Scotch (the other half, his mother, is never mentioned for some reason) and is married to a woman obsessed with AIDS and HIV, but that doesn’t fully explain his festering hatred of the English. Why does the BBC tolerate it? You would think that they might even approve of it – surely not!.

    1. Few week ago on local beeb radio the Asians were talking about grooming gangs and the abuse of young English girls. The blame was put ENTIRELY on the organisations that should protect these girls, not doing enough. NO blame at all on the scum raping them.

        1. No – and the beeb allow them to broadcast it – so in my eyes – they must be ok with it

    2. Clive Anderson has been a smug, know it all kn*b for the past 30 years, ever since Who’s Line Is It Anyway.

  31. The academics fight back

    Is the tide slowly turning on revisionist wokery?

    TELEGRAPH VIEW

    The rewriting of history by disregarding the context of the times has become one of the more wearisome of modern-day tropes. We report another example today. Alex Farquharson, director of Tate Britain, has urged attendees at an exhibition of J M W Turner’s work not to idolise the artist because he owned a share in a Jamaican sugar company that used slaves. The irony of this point being made by the head of an institution that derives its existence in part from the sugar trade appears to have been lost somewhere.

    Nor does the fact that Turner was a renowned abolitionist, and his painting The Slave Ship a powerful depiction of the horrors of the trade, seem to matter to Mr Farquharson.

    But it does matter; and academics and historians who know that is does are starting to fight back against this unthinking, debilitating ideology. A new campaign group, History Reclaimed, seeks to rebalance this debate before the tendentious distortions become so great that they are taken as gospel. It aims to show how the “woke” analysis is not simply about rebalancing academic discussion but destroying our past by forcing people to feel ashamed and guilty.

    A website dedicated to the task will be co-edited by two eminent professors, Robert Tombs of Oxford University and David Abulafia of Cambridge with an academic board comprising experts in their fields. Prof Abulafia said the project “aims to recover ways of looking at the past that are being pushed to one side by ideologically driven distortions about what happened in history”.

    Prof Doug Stokes of Exeter University said a “very simplistic narrative” about slavery and colonialism had taken hold of public debate and needed to be challenged. Perhaps they can start with Turner and the Tate.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2021/08/30/academics-fight-back/

    Alex Farquharson appears to be a man of remarkable stupidity!

    1. The rest of the food – and more – will be consumed by the arrivals – and paid for from our taxes of course.

      1. A country that isn’t importing thousands of the 3rd world is a far safer place than one which is.

      2. Gus and Pickles thoroughly agree with you – each having had their sliver of cheddar…

        1. Our current favorite cheese is Coverdale even though it comes fron Yorkshire. Wensledale is not what it once was and Swaledale is the good alternative. We like the Northers white cheese.

          1. Funny you should say that about Wensleydale. I loved it when growing up but, when I visited the dairy at Wensleydale, in October 2018, I was distinctly underwhelmed by how much it had deteriorated in quality. My favourite white cheese is a decent farmhouse Lancashire.

    2. Seriously, have 50% of over-50s consciously sat down and absorbed the Symonds’ carbon footprint advice and then acted on it? Propaganda delivered to you from Bullshit Central.

    3. I find I’m eating less meat – chiefly, because I eat less anyway, and prefer vegetable curries. But the dairy consumption is as high as ever, in the form of cheese.

    4. I don’t believe them. You can’t even get 50% of people to agree on a political party.

    1. I don’t think that will work with muslim and african children. Perhaps a goat would have been better.

    1. Oh crumbs! The final straw for me was when she says “breakin” instead of breaking. Sod Covid, it’s a soft gee…

    1. The new virus gets all the way from Africa to here?? – anything to do with welcoming
      the whole of Africa to live here??

    1. They should pop over to France, separately. Hire a rubber boat – get to Dover and then go back, together, to wherever they wish to live. Simple.

  32. Perlice to have gender neutral uniforms.

    A rainbow skirt for all ranks and all 57 genders.

  33. I receive a “word-of-the-day” email each day from Dictionary.com, an American-based website. I only use it because it occasionally throws up some words that I’ve never previously heard of.

    A couple of days ago they decided to educate their (mainly American) subscribers about the arcane terminology of the sport of cricket. A lot of what they posted was factual and some was quite amusingly put. I did rail, though when in one part they insisted upon using the terms “batter” for batsman and “inning” for an innings.

    As a result I emailed them and pointed out their errors. I received this reply:

    Our editorial team strives to be gender neutral in our articles, wherever possible. In this case ‘batter’ is a gender-neutral alternative to ‘batsmen.’ But we appreciate your comments on ‘batsmen’ and also your point about inning vs. innings; we’ll certainly share your comments with our team.

    I’ve just gone back to their website and noticed that they have, as a direct result of my intervention, changed “inning” (with their caveat appended) to innings:

    This ultimate duck in cricket is when a batter is out on the first ball of the first innings (yes, with an S) of the match. Gives yelling, “Duck!” an entirely new meaning.

    I’ve actually educated some Yanks on proper English, even though they still dig their heels in when it comes to politically correct ‘gender neutral’ crap (‘batter’).

      1. ‘Batter’ refers to a baseball player, you know, those people with a long, fat stick, helmeted like a medieval warrior and facing a large rubber ball, which is constantly thrown in his direction on the off chance he might strike it to the boundary and run around like a child who has been deprived of his play station. To the best of my knowledge none of them speak English, well, not proper English as we know it.

        1. Rounders. The game played in the summer by those of us not deemed good enough to clog up the school tennis courts.

  34. I have just had another lucky escape: There is an insidious virus that has caused more deaths and injuries than BBC News and the current Covid plague combined.

    For the past 70 years, tens of thousands of elderly people have suffered heart attacks and/or broken limbs whilst rushing across the room to turn off the radio before the torture gets going – The Archers, a fate worse than death! When is this spineless government going to do something about it?

    https://www.bobonart.co.uk/uploads/7/6/1/8/761817/3619289_orig.jpg

    1. Creator, Godfrey Baseley, was dismissed as script editor of The Archers in 1972 and replaced by Malcolm Lynch, a former scriptwriter of Coronation Street. He disliked the arrival of Vanessa Whitburn from Brookside, and was dismayed by the “outing” of the fictional landlord of the Cat and Fiddle. “I cannot understand for a moment why they should want a homosexual character,” he said last year(1996). “The Archers has completely lost its way. Luckily I’m nearly completely deaf and can’t listen to it any more.”

      Well, Godfrey, I believe they have had a change of heart and are going to introduce a non-gay person in a future episode… but don’t count on it. I Don’t want you rushing across those sunlit clouds in a pointless effort to recall the olden days. You might fall and end up in this Hell on Earth created by your heirs and successors.

    2. I’ve always thought I could put up with the ‘play’ if only they’d change the music.

      1. If you think that’s bad you should try the Sunday version – on second thoughts, DON’T. It sounds like some mad rap group after a serious overdose of crack, speed and acid – whatever they are.

        1. Shortwave, BBC Radio Newsreel, on a massive Telefunken set bought at the time of the Biafra war.

        1. That article is very well put and quite correct.

          In a similar fashion no-one has a ‘microwave’ in their kitchen. They may have a microwave oven, but ‘microwave’ refers to nothing more than the invisible type of radiation that agitates the molecules in food causing it to heat up.

          1. I shared a bedroom with three older brothers. Anything of mine was either broken, stolen or sold.

    3. The cartoon artist, Robert Lewis Booth, a Staffordshire Artist, born in 1940 in the potteries town of Fenton Stoke-on-Trent England.

      Not sure he is still with us.

          1. I doubt men were promoted simply because they were men – they might have known someone who gave them a push up the ladder, they might have been self-promoters or even just in the right place at the right time. Blair with his quotas and all-women short lists (except for a chosen few, of course) poisoned the water course so every woman who gets promoted provokes that suspicion that they’re there for numbers rather than on merit, whether it’s true or not. Personally, I think quotas were a seriously bad move, but then, so was everything Blair did, wasn’t it?

    1. All sending the SUCCESS text – – Get your bags packed and all the kids ready – – its FREEBIE time !!!

    2. And plenty of fags and lighters.

      Look, the sea is right behind them. Tie a few stones to them and push them in.

      1. Ah, an anonymous vote down – irrelevant. You refuse to present an argument because there isn’t one. Get rid of the dross!

    3. For living rough in Calais they are remarkably clean – and where do they keep the phones charged from?

  35. For those that have difficulty getting to sleep i read an article that said a teaspoon of peanut butter before bed would help.

    I checked it out on WebMD and other medical sites and it seems to be true.

    Peanut butter, because of the nuts and protein contain an amino acid not produced by the body. There are other foods which also contain it like turkey, oats and tinned tuna.

    The amino acid is Trytophan which makes the body produce serotonin.

    Peanut butter sandwich for supper from now on.

    1. Yet there seems to be no explanation as to exactly what nuts contain that might generate an allergic reaction?

      1. One of my friends has an appalling nut allergy. Apparently in her case it is the coating around the nut – not the shell, the brown skin – that triggers her reaction.

        1. Though it’s high in protein, peanut butter is also high in fat content, packing nearly 100 calories into every tablespoon.

          1. In that case there are only 25 calories in a teaspoon of peanut butter. One less glass of red perhaps.

        1. He doesn’t have any trouble sleeping; he’s curled up in his bed now, albeit emitting SBDs. Lord knows what has brought that on. I dread to think what he’d be like if he ate peanut butter!

        1. I usually start the working day with dark chocolate and coffee, to put me in a good mood.
          One of my colleagues is off sick, and I am trying to repair some of his software…frankly I am amazed our product works at all now, given the fundamental misunderstandings and lack of expertise in his code. It’s not my specialist area (he’s supposed to be the expert!), so I am floundering almost as much as him trying to repair his shyte. Going to need a LOT of oats and chocolate on the day he comes back, so that I can be diplomatic and not criticise him (vital for teamwork).

  36. JR has opened a new blog – on lorry drivers. He could let the latest arrivals drive – No visas or passports needed for ???? Afghans – why bother with driving licences?

  37. As there appeared to be a slight drop in the gale, we went on our bikes 1½ miles due north (straight into the wind) to buy some eggs. At the furthest point from home….the rain started…

    The only good thing was that though the outward journey was ALL uphill (don’t believe that “Very flat Norfolk” malarkey) – the return took half the time!

    1. Rain , rain, what is that ?

      The cold breeze here for the past week , and no rain , has now required us to water the plants and pots in the garden every day.

      All the happy campers in the fields around us and on the coastal resorts must be chilled down to their marrow.

      1. Good practice. Sell it out without having to discount it to clear before you bin it.

  38. Talking Pictures are showing some of the Central Office of Information films now held at the British Film Institute. I’ve just watched “New Towns For Old”, the 1942 version of Build Back Better. No more two-up-two-down slums, let’s destroy communities by shoving them into concrete high-rise flats. All with the best possible motives of course. At least half a dozen new blocks currently rising at White City.

    1. Did it feature the Red Road flats in Scotland. Perfect way to isolate people and up the suicide rate.

      1. Heat yesterday, heat tomorrow (or next year), but no heat today. That’s entropy global warming, man! 🙂

      2. Strip down that sentence and this is what I see: “Average global temperatures … are forecast to be ….higher than the average.” In fact this summer has been hotter, mainly due to all those wildfires.

      3. I thought that was parody. It is, isn’t it?
        They really would be scraping the bottom of the barrel to present prophecies as evidence.

      4. Such a shame that they put it up on the coldest, wettest August Bank Holiday for ages.

    1. The internet was originally designed by DARPA to help people
      1) defend the USA from nuclear attack and
      2) worship cats.

    1. most of those ancient monuments were built by a combination of forced labour and enslaved people. Remind me, where did many of those slaves come from?

      1. It’s not so much where the labour came from as who was telling them what to do, I would have thought.

      1. Mine was just a meme. You know much more of history than i will ever do but….in our history we nicked the stones to build other things and most of our structures still survive.

        Perhaps that place was better guarded.

        Tell me about the Pharoahs. :@)

        1. Not really, I have just talked to a lot of people. The Pharoahs are north Africans – the Sahara desert was historically a bigger cultural boundary than the Mediterranean sea.
          The elephant in the room with Africa is the average IQ, and the number of Africans who have IQ under 85. But that doesn’t mean there aren’t smart ones. I met middle class African girls from Zimbabwe and their families when they came to be student au pairs when my children were smaller. I liked them a lot. They have a fascinating culture and history, with traditional rules to ensure that people could survive on the land where they lived.
          Now that there has been such a focus on the slave trade though, I can’t look at the Nigerian empires, knowing that unlike the British one they were built almost solely on the profits of slavery. The hypocrisy of waffling on about those Benin bronzes which are nothing but products of the slave trade….!

    1. 338281+ up ticks,
      O2O,
      What sort of peoples want to eliminate their
      parents Og ? governance politico’s & their supporters.

  39. That’s me gone fr this miserable day. It is going to go on and bloody on, according to the weather forecast. Hardly worth getting up of a morning…

    Anyway – have a spiffing evening (don’t forget your peanut butter).

    A demain.

    1. Get yourself a sunlamp. I’m using those natural light lightbulbs everywhere.

      Have pleasant evening and give the kitties a cuddle from me.

    1. The Commander in Chief doesn’t much care for his own troops. No surprise he hates ours.

      The best we can hope for is a military coup in the U.S. Round up all the Lefties, woke, communists and put them in those camps they are building for their tax paying citizens.

      1. Wotcha Phil,promises to be a potentially great Sci-Fi Autumn
        New Dune
        Foundation
        Wheel of Time
        Been binge watching Britannia
        What you reading atm??

        1. Hi Rik.
          I am dubious about the new Dune for multiple reasons which i can’t be bothered to type now. I will watch it anyway.

          New Foundation i wasn’t aware of or memory has failed me. One of the best.

          Wheel of time i’m also having trouble with but it did make me think that everything that happens happens again.

          More info on Britannia please.

          I have been re-reading all of Terry Pratchett. Start to finish.

          Won’t go in to detail but it isn’t challenging for me at the moment.

  40. I’m giving all the quizzes on BBC2 a swerve tonight to watch the incomparable Joan Hickson as Miss Marple on BBC4 at 19.30.

    1. I agree up to “…Democracy starts from the ridiculous notion that everyone should have an opinion on public policy….”

      As that is NOT what democracy means. The root of democracy is that the people have the power *over* the state, not over each other. It does not require individuals to understand public policy (although this helps), it enshrines the right of the public to control the machinery that purports to serve them.

      One could argue that alongside this power lies the ability to understand the policies they disagree with and to question if everyone *should* have that power. Some people forfeit it through criminality, anti social behaviour or simply by having never truly contributed to society in any meaningful way.

      Much like the relative definition of poverty is an abuse of the term, democracy is only valuable when the state permits it – and then it isn’t democracy.

  41. Evening, all. Today took yesterday’s dull start which it didn’t bother with then and used it all day today 🙁 Typical Bank Holiday. I went to a coffee morning followed by a concert at church, which was excellent, then came home for lunch and took Oscar for a drink (he had water, I had a coffee) in a local dog-friendly pub in the late afternoon. Life in the slow lane suits me. Tomorrow the chap is coming to service my oil boiler some time after 1pm. I think I can cope with that.

          1. Ah.
            I’m surprised how many Norwegians have foreign names – and not just those who originated from the Middle East, either.

      1. An ever present help in time of trouble, Bill. He’s asleep across the doorway at the moment, making sure I can’t go anywhere without him!

          1. I’m glad to hear that, Bill. It’s a worry when a pet is ailing. They certainly look happy enough.

          2. I’m sure. For all his quirks and grumpiness, I am so glad I’ve got Oscar. Mind you, he does seem to be mellowing, slightly. He got his lead caught round his leg today and had a proper noisy grump as I went to free it, but didn’t bite me although he put his mouth round my hand. I think he’s learning slowly to put his teeth away (with me at any rate). Long may it continue to improve!

    1. “UK nationals” just means they hold a UK passport, surely. They almost certainly won’t be indigenous.

    2. If anyone should know, it will be the Labour MP’s who have the benefit of the votes and will be inundated with requests because the Afghans will have been told by their UK relatives that they will be welcomed, no questions asked until they are already in the UK, by which time they will be home and hosed and impossible to remove.

    3. Numbers may be larger

      Where have I heard that before? Oh, yes, Rumanians and Bulgarians expected in UK when the floodgates were opened to the Gypsies and Thieves.

      1. Wonder what weath they have brought to the UK compared to what they have cost in benefits, crime, NHS, housing, kids schooling etc etc.

        1. Not forgetting that they can claim benefits and send that money to their home country while stealing and ripping off everything they can.

          Does that make me a racist?

  42. After the earlier mutant ninja Ferguson scaremongering it appears it may already be extinct.
    What the two articles, taken together, tell us is the the so-called scientists haven’t got a fucking clue, they are making it up as they go along, publishing and presumably looking for more research grants to keep them employed in pleasant sinecures.

    Damn their eyes, and damn the eyes of all the politicians and SAGEacious cretins who have destroyed the economy, the NHS and peoples’ lives. AND there is still the possibility that their miracle cure may turn out to be the next Thalidomide scandal.

    I hate them all.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9939825/Most-mutated-Covid-variant-far-EXTINCT-scientist-claims.html

  43. SavetheParish are looking for help to propose/second their candidates for General Synod.
    They are a pretty well organised campaign group who seeks to oppose the Church of England’s plans to close parish churches, and restrict the number of parish priests, while employing ever more staff in Bishops’ offices.

    I got this email today
    “As deadlines for General Synod nominations draw closer, I am asking, please, for your help with the following. All responses should be sent, please, to Prudence Dailey, who is our General Synod elections co-ordinator.

    1. Candidates
    Please let us know ASAP:
    If you are definitely intending to stand;
    Whether you have been nominated (and, if you have not yet been nominated, please let us know when this has happened);
    Whether you are clergy or laity; and
    Which Diocese you are in.

    2. Proposers/seconders
    We are urgently need lay members of General Synod who are willing to nominate candidates in their Diocese, especially in the following Dioceses:
    Chelmsford
    Lincoln
    Southwell & Nottingham
    Truro

    Nominations close at noon this Wednesday in some Dioceses, so this is now extremely urgent! If you are not a Deanery Synod member yourself, might the Deanery Synod representatives in your Parish be persuaded to help?

    .
    .

    If anyone is in one of the above areas, and would like/is able to help, the email address is savetheparish ät gmail döt com.

    1. I do not think that assassination is the best way forward but whenever I see Tony Blair I start to wonder whether I’m right.

      1. There are plenty of trees with strong boughs in Hyde Park….Blair lives very close to Hyde Park……

        1. I would be content if he ended in a vegetative state for years, fully conscious and aware of what was happening with everyone who visits him spewing the hate he so richly deserves, but unable to move or do anything about it.

    2. I do not think that assassination is the best way forward but whenever I see Tony Blair I start to wonder whether I’m right.

        1. I was taught that that was an old farming adage.

          In German, Google translate assures me that it reads, “Früh ins Bett und mit dem Schwanz aufstehen”

          1. Leda mit dem Schwan springs to mind.

            I first heard the ‘up with the cock’ joke recited by Jamie Shadbolt at one of his dinners. Shadbolt supplied the veneers to my building Richmond House Whitehall.

            I thought innocently that it was a play on words initially as in ‘up with the clock’.

    1. Aren’t our leaders turning on us? Lies, lies, misinformation, Great Reset, mass importation against our wishes AND what they said they would do? Jabbing kids with?

      1. Showing the people what they’ll get too. Sad, but that person is probably lucky – no more fear or suffering for them..

    2. They just used to push queers off the roof and if they survived they stoned them to death.

      They have now learned from Sky, CNN and the BBC how exactly to manipulate the news.

      They now have $70 billion state of the art material.

      I was told today that they couldn’t possibly fly such a thing as a BlackHawk.

      I said that we had trained them to do so so.

      I was rubbished on that as the Taliban do not have those skills.

      I said that we had left those skills behind and even if they didn’t want to comply their families would be held as hostage until they did comply.

      The Taliban and Isis-k are one and the same….Ragheads.

      1. Hmm, I was told, Philip, that the Arabs take exception to being called, ‘Ragheads’. It was explained that on their heads, what they wore was a little sheet.

        Hereinafter, I always refer to them as little sheetheads.

        1. I was so shocked by what you said my karakul fell off my head. Then it walked away saying baah.

          1. If you will walk about with a coracle (karakul – ancient Welsh spelling) do not be SO surprised.

      1. I prefer cod over haddock for flavour & texture. I bought an undyed smoked cod-loin, poached it milk with the usual bits, then cut it in 2. First 1/2 previous evening with cheese sauce & spinach, 2nd 1/2 tonight in the soup.
        Pesky Fish back from hols tomorrow.

          1. Well, I lived in Banff for several years, not too far from Cullen and I also visited Baxter’s factory, where they produce some amazing soups.

            You need to get your ar5e up there and sample the local culinary delights before passing purely Sassenach judgement. I say this as a Sassenach myself.

          2. You are getting all serious on my ar5e.

            Baxter’s are very fine soups. I have bought many over the years, but this was Peddy the pedant thread.

            Baxter’s are at least £2 & Tin where i live and i can make 10 times as much from one piece of beautiful smoked haddock..

        1. https://www.baxters.com/products/cullen-skink

          Ingredients
          Water, Potatoes (19%), Smoked Haddock (Fish) (15%), Onions (7%), Double Cream (Milk)(5%), Skimmed Milk Powder, Butter (Milk), Cornflour, Salt, Modified Cornflour, Wheatflour (with Calcium Carbonate, Iron, Niacin, Thiamin), Emulsifying Salts (Polyphosphates), Parsley, Black Pepper, Nutmeg Extract, Mace Extract.

    1. I like the sound of this guy. He’s learning.

      And just before anyone accuses me of mistaking his gender. I already know that his previous wives are doing the laundry for their new ‘husbands’…..

      1. Previous wife was hopeless at laundry …

        Best arrangement for happiness of man who has divorced and remarried?
        Marry the second one first.

    1. I think there is more going on here than we are being told.
      There are Unions that cover Doctors and Teachers.
      The worst performing were the ones that agreed with the Unions.
      The best did as well as they could but i think they saw the writing on the wall.

  44. Good night, NoTTLers, all and God bless. I shall see you all again in the morning’s light – if we are spared. A whisky and water calls.

      1. I’m just slavering it on now. Shame you’re not here to lick it off….

        THIS POST WILL BE DELETED IN 24 HOURS.

        :@)

  45. After seeing Gove ‘dancing’ (mind bleach, please) in a dive in Aberdeen, and as it has been plastered across the media so that most of the population got a jolly good look, will he now ‘catch covid’ (cough, cough) to be announced in a few days and use this as another wedge to lever open the door to vaccine passports in night clubs? And thence onwards?

    1. My conspiracy theory.

      Hancock was in deep trouble and Boris couldn’t easily get rid of him. A manufactured situation with his wife in collusion.

      Graham Andrew Logan otherwise known as Michael Gove bebases himself as a senior government minister…who happens to be also in the process of changing wives.

      Then we are left with people like Grant Shapps who also has multiple identities.

      If i were a member of any army let alone the Afghan Army i would run for the hills.

      1. Yes – I think their plans were in danger of becoming unravelled because of Hancock; corruption, elderly from nhs wards being sent off to infect the elderly In the care homes, Midazolam (especially Midazolam) too many questions were being asked and he simply had to go. The rest – totally contrived with the agreement of wifey.

        And if government did not want the dad-dancing Gove images to be seen, it would not have been shown. One can only conclude that they did – for the purposes of manipulation. Gove – not seen for weeks and then suddenly, there he is.

    2. Gove is but an insect in the great scheme of things. We witnessed him slobbering, goggle eyed, at the ranting diatribe of the brain damaged idiot child Greta Thunberg.

      He is most probably a poof.

        1. The evidence indicates that Gove’s ideology changes to suit the current political landscape. He’s nought but but a political chameleon, and one with a nasty streak. What real beliefs does he hold? Well, first and foremost, Michael Gove, after that anything that advances Michael Gove and after that…

          In fact, Gove is a typical modern day politician with ambition: we are in a state of over-supply of these awful people.

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