Monday 30 September: The next Tory leader must be a champion of core conservative values

Posted on by Geoff Graham

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    2. Mystic BB2 has the dastardly Russians blowing up undersea Atlantic cables!

      Any other entries?
      They are pushing aliens again, believe it or not – someone has just put a book out, and it's being pushed by at least one supposedly anti-establishment voice.

    4. My word our political classes don't have the collective intelligence of a single hen.
      Oh but hang on a mo………they might just squeeze in.

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    1. "More cleaner" and "More greener", eh? Either remove the end "-er" or, better still, just remove the "More" from the beginning". There, BBC, I am educating your staff for you. Lol.

    2. The unreliables simply cannot cope. Milioaf is a moron. Not only should Radcliffe be kept open, new, modern coal power stations should be built. They can be set up faster than gas ones.

  6. Eight children seriously hurt in arson attack in German city of Essen. 30 September 2024.

    A man has been arrested after allegedly setting off two fires in the western German city of Essen that left 30 people injured and driving a van into two shops, authorities said on Sunday.

    Emergency services were alerted to two fires in residential buildings in quick succession shortly after 5 p.m. on Saturday, police said. The injured people included eight children who were seriously hurt, and two of them were in a life-threatening condition after inhaling smoke.

    You can see why the PTB have D Noticed this. It’s too close to Southport.

    https://www.euronews.com/2024/09/29/eight-children-seriously-hurt-in-arson-attack-in-german-city-of-essen

    2. Another muslim setting about killing people. Is this the same one who set about his rampage because his wife asked him to empty the washing machine or a different gimmigrant?

  7. Good Morning All
    Today's Tale
    Simon Solomon was drinking in a bar in Belfast when he suddenly felt a pistol in his back.
    “Catholic or Protestant?” demanded a voice behind him.
    “Jewish,” replied Simon.
    “Well, I must be the luckiest Arab in the whole of Ireland.”

    John and Joanne were arguing with their next door neighbours, Ray and Ruth about their late-night parties, when Ray let go an enormous fart. It could only be described as a triple thunderclap.
    “How dare you fart in front of my wife!” yelled John.
    “I didn’t know it was her turn,” replied Ray.

    The errant wife was in the middle of a very passionate session with her lover when the phone rang. She picked up the phone and listened for a few minutes, and told her lover that it was her husband on the phone.
    The boyfriend panicked and started to dress.
    “Calm down,” she said, “we’ve got plenty of time. He’s playing cards with you and the rest of his mates.”

      1. In 1958, Kris Kristofferson was awarded a Rhodes Scholarship to the University of Oxford, studying at Merton College. While at Oxford, he was awarded a Blue for boxing, played rugby for his college, and began writing songs.

    1. At least half wouldn't be able to tell you what those are. The other half, though knowing them would tell you it's something we should tone down a bit so as not to upset people.

      1. There is another half who are not Conservatives and never have been, who know very well what these values are, and also how little they have been adopted by their representatives in office. I was profoundly disappointed after I voted for them in 1979, only to find a takeover by the wide boys.

    2. It isn't just conservative values that need to change, an entire change of direction is needed. An entirely new tax code, one far simpler and more straightforward, that has lower, flatter taxes. A complete abolition of all the hideous 'race' laws to remove this two tier nonsense. Phased reductions in all sorts of welfare to roll back the state, properly rewarding marriage and home ownership – as home owners make for better neighbours. An end to the assault on free speech and shredding of hate crime drivel, which is just thought crime by any other name.

      Bu none of them are even talking about practical changes to economics.

  13. A couple of interesting posts. I didn't know D Trump had two son in laws (one on either side of the Middle East divide)

    https://x.com/jaredkushner/status/1840181053572690060

    https://x.com/ElectionLegal/status/1840185037095854480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1840185037095854480%7Ctwgr%5E8aefed2cf2008278e0dd62fd0e475d1405046d97%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fnews%2F2024-09-29%2Fjared-kushner-israels-assassination-nasrallah

    2. Doesn’t the Labour Party have an HQ any more?
      I can imagine that a local constituency branch might use somebody’s house for meetings but a major political party?

  15. My two pennyworth..The last 14 years of the 'Conservative' administration has each day been like Gerald Ratner's Groundhog day – not worth the price of a prawn sandwich.

    1. There must have been a few that were in agony at what was and still is happening to our once civilised nation.
      Let them stand up now. And let's reform Britain's politics.

  16. Good day all,

    Dull and drizzly at McPhee Towers, wind South going West, 14-15℃.

    Oh dear.

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    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/09/30/robert-jenrick-star-of-david-israel-support-tory-leader/

    We shoudn't be surprised since his wife, Michal Berkner, is Israeli-born and the daughter of holocaust survivors. But it does leave us wondering: If he were to win the leadership, and in the longer term become Prime Minister, just who will he be serving. The British people? Or the state of Israel.

      1. If you listen to UK Column you will know that Brian Gerrish, Mike Robinson and Alex Thomson think that our politicians are working more for Israel than the British people.

          2. Have you read Feargus Greenwood’s 180 degrees book? It does a very good job of pulling together a lot of information in an attempt to get to the bottom of the rabbit hole – which he pretty much succeeds in doing. He was on the Delingpod a couple of years ago.

          4. Yes, he is pretty interesting to listen to! Jonathan Myles-Lea was very keen on getting everything in book form though, as he pointed out that the internet is too easily controlled, content changed or made unavailable. So I have started buying the books published by people that I listen to on the internet.

          7. Someone out for mischief might suggest that Zionism and militant Islam are two cheeks of the same bottom. The latter points this organ to God when praying, whereas the former wear special hats that stop God getting to the brain.

            Christianity is the hole in the middle that expels the ordure, whereas the social media influenced trendies choose to inject filler into the bottom to make it grander.

          8. Funded from the same source anyway. After all, they had to create a credible enemy for everyone in the west to hate after the cold war ended.

          10. A friend at Gatwick tells us that the Police arrested an "Islamic bomber" there at Saturday midday.

            He said that armed police with machine guns were everywhere.

            They took away his car so our informant was unsure whether the bomb was in the car or on his person.

            I'm surprised that none of the Sunday newspapers reported the incident.

    2. He's completely missing the point. The problem isnn't Israel or our support for them. We should continue to trade with Israel – we have to, they own most of the mobile telecoms patents. What we must not do is arm the muslim, nor let them in to this country.

      The UK has become more dangerous, more insecure, more crime ridden since massive uncontrolled gimmigration was forced on us. Muslim terrorism has killed thousands. There was a gang war in Clapham between black drug gangs. Everywhere there are fronts funnelling this money through their books. Our welfare bill is off the chart. Our schools need translators for kids who are not using toilet paper to wip their backsides with, nor washing their hands when they are finished.

      This is all because of massive uncontrolled gimmigration. It i not Israel that needs to be supported. It's Britain.

  18. 393775+ up ticks,

    Morning Each
    I do see this as early doors mindset tampering placement

    Monday 30 September: The next Tory leader must be a champion of core conservative values.

    When in reality it should read the next peoples leader seeking freedom of speech, freedom of action must have
    patriotic BALLS OF SHEFFIELD STEEL as a base asset.

    NO current politico's must be allowed within the vicinity of WESTMINSTER and must check in weekly with the trusted peoples bureau and have their tags ( ankle jewelry ) checked.

    Forget what squats in parliament now dripping vermin tis riddled with anti British contamination.

    I believe we should maas support "For Britain" inclusive of Tommy Robinson and ALL those that over the years, decades have been abused & vilified as being "wrong uns"

    Currently ALL things seen as good are judged to be BAD & all things BAD are judged to be good.

    1. Good for them, it's their future what's it got to do with a here today gone tomorrow DH of a politician.

        1. Probably not fully compus, just trying very hard to justify his position.
          As it seems so many of these pointless creatures are.

    2. Miliband is stark staring mad. He strikes me as being a demented but brain-free reincarnation of Wernher von Braun or Dr Strangelove sadistically set on the destruction of humanity.

      1. Yes, he is. He should be stopped. In fact, he should be forced to implement fracking and generate coal building and end the climate change con.

        But he won't, because the entire point of the policy is to destroy our entire way of life.

        This is partly why they won't get fracking, as it would reduce the price of gas and prove unreliables even more the waste they are as the subsidy price is set at the price of gas: https://dailysceptic.org/2024/09/29/record-august-renewables-subsidies/

    3. I am very uneasy about the transfer of 60 tonnes of gold from Argentina to London. Suspected to be because the LBMA is more short of the yellow stuff than they are prepared to let on. Official reason is loan collateral, I think.
      China has already indicated that they would support Argentina's desire to invade and steal the Falklands.
      So we already have a situation potentially being set up where Argentina could invade and conquer and have widespread support from the international community.

        1. Which is why the Foreign Office are negotiating the sale of the Falklands to Argentina.

          We suspect that $600million in gold is the payment.

          2. Why would he give $600 million in gold to Britain then?

            We suspect that it's for a complete purchase of the oil rights.

            After all, the British government doesn't want oil anymore as it's going green.

          4. But certainly accessible to an Argentine owned Falklands.

            Which rather confirms our opinion that the $600 million is a purchase payment.

          5. Argentina moved 150m worth to the UK in August. It's to invest it, as gold sat in bank vaults can't be used as a reserve to buy stock and produce more revenue. They're trying to put it to use rather than just keep it. The Swiss got some of the 62 tons of reserve as well. Depressingly, the Swiss have already returned a profit to Argentina whereas our fools are trying to force it into green nonsense.

    4. "If developed, the Sea Lion field, which lies 150 miles north of the South Atlantic archipelago, is predicted to generate £4bn for the 3,700 Falklanders over the next 35 years, equivalent to around £1m per islander."

      Starmer; "Where's my share?"

      1. I imagine more effort is being put into destroying it than anything else.

        The timings pretty good, too. The Falkland Islanders are talking to Milei – or, better to say he's talking to them. All quietly, all hush hush so as not to stir up all the boring prejudices and remove focus from the economic recovery Milei is beginning but he's suggesting a small contribution – imagine that! Massive industry, real wealth and a friendly neighbour benefitting from the wealth generated without shouting, squeaming and silliness!

        1. I wasn’t on the particular job but my company completed the marine seismic survey down there in the mid 2000s.

  21. Morning all 🙂😊
    A very dismal start, I'm so glad I took the opportunity to cut all the grass yesterday. It's chucking it down again.
    Happy Birthday to you One Last Try 🤗🥂🍾 I hope you have a lovely time today.

    If there was such a person as described in the Conservative Party, let it happen. And let's all get together and stop our long established culture and social structure, countryside and the general atmosphere of Britain being wrecked. By all these pointless destructive politcal morons.
    In the memory of all those who gave their lives to keep our country safe.

  23. Good morning, chums. And thank you, Geoff, for today's NoTTLe site.

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  25. There is someone on right now pleading to preserve the cooling towers at the Ratcliffe power station.

    They should be Grade 1 listed, and in time a potent tourist attraction, a monument to British industry and as important as the pyramids.

    1. When shown in previous clips the steaming cooling towers were always wrongly included in the reasons for the rates of pollution.
      I don't think politician's or the media knew this.
      But as the world famous Pyramids are known to contain the bodies of ex Rulers, perhaps your idea is extremely relevant.

      1. Nahh, politicians knew precisely what they were doing. They were done to terrify the simple minded.

        When folk were told they were the same thing as clouds suddenly the issue goes away but the Left wanted their message forced in. You'll note the state does this a lot. It lies continually. Much of it's proclamations are irrelevant, meaningless drivel that have no meaning or sense.

        1. Yes, I’ve been telling people that for decades Obs. But our media has never bothered. To mention it.

    2. We may well need to recommission Radcliffe in the near future; cancellation of the Winter Fuel Allowance may have a deadly affect this winter.

      1. All this talk of pushing everything online, of ditching the pound for bitcoin, of forcing all to put their personal data on the Cloud, and of artificial intelligence directing us how we are permitted to think, forgets how all this is to be powered.

        Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't the Chinese building two new coal-fired power stations a week to satisfy this demand? So much for Net Zero!

      2. cancellation of the Winter Fuel Allowance may have a deadly affect this winter.

        You understand ze plan then…….

      1. Fanx Alec

        being at Lossiemouth made me young

        We knew the Crabs were going to get it, when they knocked down the Nissan huts and built 'blocks'

    3. Fanx again Richard and Caroline.

      Your birthday messages (and reminders) makes Nottlers feel like a big family

          3. I love lobster, crab, langoustines, oysters, cockles, mussels, whelks and clams; in fact most shellfish.

            But I've still not tried a spoot or a winkle.

          1. Fanx, Bill

            I am really a lad of 30, the first 50 years do not count and I had one 30the card!

            The word is spreading

    5. What's the hardest step? Not the first one, or the last one. It's the next one. Keep trying. It's all that matters.

  27. Good morning all.
    A horrible wet and miserable start to the day. 6°C and peeing it down.
    A run to t'Lad's in Derby planned to off load several dozen mushroom trays of sticks, did plan a wander into Derby to walk round the shops, but given the weather, I think I'll just do a quick in and out.

        1. I'd love to know the place where What Three Words directs us!

          There is an American actor, approaching his centenary and a favourite of the Death List (he's been on nine times so far) who is similarly endowed with three naughty words, two of which get an automatic referral to moderators more squeamish than Geoff, and the third both a lethal weapon and an essential tool of the trade for your enterprising burglar.

        2. Now In side the parameter of the M25. He seems to have captured everything in his own name.
          A Nasty piece of work.

    3. I know GCSE history is all about women's emancipation and black transatlantic slavery, with a nod to the Tudors and WW2, but what precisely was the spat between Henry II and his Archbishop of Canterbury about? Or for that matter between St Stanislas and the Polish King? Or St John Paul II and his Polish governor? Or Henry VIII and his pope?

      All of them are centred around whether Church Law or Civil Law should prevail. The Emancipation of the Roman Catholic Church in Britain under George IV was conditional that the law of the land always took precedence over the law of the Church. This was tested in 1967 with the Abortion Act, which violates one of the fundamental principles of Catholicism.

      If this has been applied rigorously over Catholics for centuries, why should Muslims be excused?

      1. If this has been applied rigorously over Catholics for centuries, why should Muslims be excused?

        1000 up votes

        1. ‘Morning OLT! I sent birthday wishes on Sundays page, so here I am again for an encore! Have a great day! 🥂🎂🍷

          2. Chiming in late due to being at the other end of the world, but wishing you an absolutely bloody marvellous 30th!! K x

          4. I, too, sent birthday wishes when I signed off (after midnight) last night, but I repeat them here and now.

        2. Four score scored a score to score for a maiden century.
          Keep on trying, you'll get there in the end.
          Have a very happy birthday

      3. Here in France, since 1905, Church and State are rigorously separate. In 1905 the State confiscated all Church property, which was a magnificent own goal as the State is now responsible for the upkeep of all the then existing churches, presbyteries, schools, etc.

        Last week, I attended the blessing of a new church door (the old one having been irreparably damaged when some idiots unsuccessfully tried to break in). The municipal council had funded it 100%, as they had to by law. The mayor of the village, a rampant atheist, was graceful enough to attend and do the job properly. In his speech he made the point that in secular France, every individua has the right to practise his religion "provided that he remains within the law". Many interpreted this as an unspoken reference to the Muslims…

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  29. Oh well another hospital appointment this morning. The Old hippy shake.
    I seem to have developed a slight cough, a sore throat and nasal problems since last week's hospital appointment.
    A lady who didn't look old enough to have any knee problems, arrived five minutes after the start of the hour and 40 minutes seminar. Sat in the seat behind me and was coughing most of the way through it all.
    And she left immediately after the final word.
    Trying to drum up more business ?
    .

    4. My favourite too. Never liked the Gladys Knight version. Preferred the KK original, or Joan Baez. Or now yours, of course!

    7. Apologies to KK for this little effort of mine as a tribute to fine magicians everywhere…

      Busted outa Middlesbrough

      Headed down to Leeds

      Lookin’ for a hiker on the way,

      Debbie thumbed my limo down,

      Just before it rained,

      Looked as though she might go all the way,

      I produced my “rabbit” from my dirty velvet loon pants

      When she said “You know I’m only just fifteen”

      I said “Baby, I’m in showbiz where we never ask your age, you’re the cutest groupie that I’ve ever seen”

      Magic’s where it is, so baby ride along with me,

      Magic keeps its secrets, as you’ll see……….

      TV is another place where we don’t ask you age,

      Baby that was good enough for me, good enough for me and Debbie Magee.

      From the coal mines of West Yorkshire, to the clubs around the north,

      Debbie shared the secrets of my soul,

      Standin’ right beside me, lord

      In every gig I played,

      No-one ever thought to ask: “How Old?”

      Then one time at the BBC, Sir Jimmy said to me:

      “Who’s the chick, she’s up for it, I’m told”

      I said “Jimmy, she is mine and she is only just fifteen”

      He said “Sorry, man, she really is too old”

      Beeb is just another word for “We don’t give a damn,

      Nobody can touch us, you can see…….

      Pay your Licence fee and never ever ask us why,

      Baby it was good enough for me,

      Good enough for me and Debbie Magee.

    1. Gimmigrants have brought nothing to this country. We took the good things for ourselves. We don't want the dross of the people.

      2. All the more appropriate given that Stephen Sondheim wrote Send in the Clowns as a song for people who can't sing. The actresses who played the part in A Little Night Music were chosen for their acting not musical abilities. First Glynis Johns then Judi Dench.

        1. If that cast had been one of politicians, they would have been chosen for their self-aggrandisement and troughing abilities and not for their political nous nor their statesmanship qualities.

  33. I know it's five months old and therefore old news, but I listened to Steven Edginton's interview with Liz Truss last night. After ten minutes I knew she had been an over-promoted midwit; after twenty minutes I felt nothing but astonishment that she'd ever been our Prime Minister.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5vk1RLR6bE
    Young Mr Edginton is good, isn't he? Been nowhere near a university too.

    1. I knew there was something awry with how she was briefed when as Britain's Foreign Secretary, she travelled over to Moscow to order Putin to hand over Rostov-on-Don.

      I have this splendid document 'A World Atlas of the British Empire and Lesser Places', with all the important bits coloured pink, which correctly locates the city.

    2. Her book's terrible. Some political books detail the personalities and characters of politicos with wit and humour o mock them. Others are dense, heavy researched text books on rational economics and government spending.

      Truss' book is self aggrandizing dog waffle. The stand out elements are that she wanted her own hair dresser. There is no 'what to do in each of the ten years' it's just the finishing, throw away line at the end.

    3. For me the ideal candidate.. for the Blob to snap like a pritzel. She makes some valid observations but but but "I didn't realise how much the institutions have been taken over.." Geeeez where had she been?

      Anyhow, the job of taking back control aint gonna happen with a political lite-weight. Aint gonna happen with the Tory party.
      Cummings said.. "You need to move in fast preferably over-night on a Sunday, and take each & every civil service executive office and relocate them to a safe house."
      And that will only happen with the military behind you. And like Starkey says.. you need a Catherine The Great or Oliver Cromwell. They are called Great..because they are rare.

      To attempt otherwise is like peeing in the wind.

      1. Catherine seized the throne in a military coup of course and started as she meant to go on. Peter III must have been some waste of space to make an 18th century Russian army favour his wife but they were presumably not disappointed.

          1. Yes, she ended the three hundred year Crimean Khanate and the Black Sea port of Odessa was built by Catherine.

          2. And, I discovered the other day, that the Khanate was used as a staging post for white slaves, mostly Russians, to ship off to Muslim countries. That was one of the reasons Catherine destroyed it. I didn't know that, did you? I just thought it was the usual imperial venture that was popular at the time.

        2. She was a big lady – in every sense of the word; I've seen one of her dresses in a museum in Moscow.

    4. For me the ideal candidate.. for the Blob to snap like a pritzel. She makes some valid observations but but but "I didn't realise how much the institutions have been taken over.." Geeeez where had she been?

      Anyhow, the job of taking back control aint gonna happen with a political lite-weight. Aint gonna happen with the Tory party.
      Cummings said.. "You need to move in fast preferably over-night on a Sunday, and take each & every civil service executive office and relocate them to a safe house."
      And that will only happen with the military behind you. And like Starkey says.. you need a Catherine The Great or Oliver Cromwell. They are called Great..because they are rare.

      To attempt otherwise is like peeing in the wind.

    5. He is very good, erudite and well-prepared. However, he has not yet developed the killer edge of a Robin Day or a Jeremy Paxman.

  34. I know it's five months old and therefore old news, but I listened to Steven Edginton's interview with Liz Truss last night. After ten minutes I knew she had been an over-promoted midwit; after twenty minutes I felt nothing but astonishment that she'd ever been our Prime Minister.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5vk1RLR6bE
    Young Mr Edginton is good, isn't he? Been nowhere near a university too.

    2. You can't. Folk don't seem to get it: muslims don't see anything wrong with what they're doing. They really, truly don't think killing people is wrong.

      1. To be accurate it is permissible to kill anyone in the realm of Dar el Harb (The House of War), that is anyone not in the realm of Islam, Dar el Islam. But, in the Dar el Islam it is permissible to kill any non Muslim who refuses to pay the Jizya, a protection racket in that you can survive as a Christian, Jew, or any other person designated as one of the people of the book as long as you pay up. As a tax it is nothing more than a protection racket worthy of the Mafia. Since Sicily was once Islamic, I wouldn't be surprised at all that the Mafia got their idea for a protection racket from Islam. At this current time all of Britain is in the Dar el Harb and thus it it permissible for Islamic believers to kill any one or all of us. This is the viper that our government insists we clutch tightly to our breast.

  36. 393775+ up ticks,

    What comes next, why the BIG FREEZE via BIG ED & co.

    Dt,

    Why Britain’s last coal power station is closing its doors
    Ratcliffe-on-Soar, our last coal-fired power station, shuts down for good at the end of this month… but what comes next?

      1. May I fiddle

        You have to learn not to take for granted that the electricity and water will be on. 24 hours a day…

          1. I have just learned how to send a text on my phone.

            Copying a picture and putting it on here as an avatar would be beyond my capabilities.

            I am good with jet aircraft and engines though and have loaded the odd nuclear bomb to helos….

          4. And you kept everyone airborne.. that is brilliant because most pilots hadn't a clue how to maintain their cars let alone how their aircraft worked !😉🙄

      3. It will be like WW2 – except I think water was always on unless the Germans had bombed the water mains.

    2. Take your washboard — and your mucky kecks — down to the river. A nice new cauldron for the cooking will go over the garden fire, and you put on an extra jumper (or two) when the weather goes below 10ºC (50ºF).

      Running around the garden will also keep you warm.

      1. 393775+ up ticks,

        Morning G,
        Not quite there yet, not enough raped, abused or dead, but we will find temporary,justifiable heat in the burning of the palace of westminster & contents.

  37. 393775+ up ticks,

    Morning W,
    That explains why they are viewed
    sympathetically by the United Kingdoms ruling political parties.

  38. Melanie Phillips's latest free-to-read article, on the geopolitical implications of Israel's recent actions in taking the fight to its enemies.
    https://melaniephillips.substack.com/p/a-seismic-moment

    My take-away quotations:
    "In a speech a few years ago, Nasrallah said: 'Lebanon was a Christian country, but we took it and now it’s ours. After we kill all the Jews in Palestine, we will just have begun. We won’t stop until every country on Earth is ruled by the law of Allah and the people of Islam, like our prophet promised.'"
    No mistaking Hizballah's intention there.

    "In Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Iran Arabs and Muslims distributed celebratory sweets and cakes and danced in the streets to express their unbridled joy at Nasrallah’s removal from this earth and thanked Israel for 'getting rid of our garbage'.

    In Lebanon, people cheered and clapped, drivers honked their horns and fireworks exploded in the sky in the north-western region where Nasrallah was seen as a key ally of Syrian president Bashar al-Assad and was thus responsible for assisting Assad’s brutal crackdown on opponents and helping turn the tide of the civil war in his favour."

    and:
    "More significant than that, Israel has now been seen to have faced down America. This will have a dramatic and very deep impact on the Arab world.

    The Arabs think that America has abandoned them for Iran — which indeed it has. Accordingly, the Arabs have come to regard America as their enemy. Now they are looking upon Israel — for whom America has also become a lethally false friend — as their brave and valorous defender.

    As a result it is Israel, not the United States of America, which is now emerging as the major player in the Middle East and the chief defender of civilised values in the world. That’s quite an achievement. And it’s happened because of the civilisational collapse of America and the west."

      1. Robert Spencer knows his subject very well. Of course he was banned from entering this country (and to the best of my knowledge still is) because his warning of the threat of Islamism was deemed to be harmful to good community relations.

        1. He mentions it here. It is basically because he was giving an accurate account of Islam that did not harmonize with the guff about Islam being the religion of peace.

      2. Robert Spencer knows his subject very well. Of course he was banned from entering this country (and to the best of my knowledge still is) because his warning of the threat of Islamism was deemed to be harmful to good community relations.

    2. Well that is certainly a viewpoint we won't be hearing from the BBC or the mainstream media any time soon…

    3. All good stuff though "eventually" perhaps in fifty years time we will acknowledge that
      "astounding failure of its intelligence" didn't happen at all.
      imho, the hardliners knew exactly what was going on & let it happen.

      Benjamin Netanyahu knew he had one chance in office to rid the world of Hamas & Hezbollah.

    4. All good stuff though "eventually" perhaps in fifty years time we will acknowledge that
      "astounding failure of its intelligence" didn't happen at all.
      imho, the hardliners knew exactly what was going on & let it happen.

      Benjamin Netanyahu knew he had one chance in office to rid the world of Hamas & Hezbollah.

    5. Nasrallah was seen as a key ally of Syrian president Bashar al-Assad.

      Is that true?

      Assad was fighting shits like Hezbollah.

      1. Trouble with yer slammers – you never really know what they are up to – apart from liking killing people.

      2. I feel somewhat sorry for Assad. People into "democracy" get very hot under the collar about his family. But any democracy in Syria, considering the multitude of disparate sects, ideologies and races in Syria, a democracy would collapse into civil war before it had even been implemented. It's easy to strut and lecture when you face nothing anywhere near as confusing politically on your own home turf.

  40. Morning all. Had an interesting conversation yesterday in which we were trying to determine what marks a person out as 'working class' in England. When many of us on NOTTLERS were younger it was quite an easy question to answer, it had to do with income, accent, job, education and a few other markers. Now all those attributes are muddled so we failed to arrive at a simple definition. So question to you all. How would you define working class now a days? And, for that matter, the other classes in England.

    2. I'm not sure it really exists any more except in the mind of those wanting the classification. My plumber earns more than I do. My accountant less than my builder chum. I earn more than the chap who owns the big house down the road.

      However: that big house is inherited, and worth about 20 million, grounds included. He races horses and has a standing on the jockey club. His farm shop makes a fortune. She while he has a lower income, he has a lot more 'money'. The plumber likewise is very canny but his business is worth less than mine is. He works longer hours.

      My builder chum works for the council and has a vastly higher pension than I ever will.

    3. Whether you manage to rescue any of the fruits of your labour to pass on to your heirs at the end of your life, or whether you spend most of it and the government thieves the rest.
      Accent.
      Also, clothes are surprisingly good markers, even today.
      Income/education/job – irrelevant.

  41. fI took the dogs swimming Saturday. Lucy very nervous and sat on the steps up looking at the wobbling water with absolute terror so I started coaxing her in to the shallow end where she could easily stand. As I did that, there was a huge 'woof', a massive leap as Mongo scuttles on to the side and leaps, paws first straight on top of me. I go straight under, he goes with me, we roll about as he tries to get his paws to work and I try to work out which way is up after massive paws have bashed into my chest and groin.

    Eventually I come up (it's not a deep pool) and I see Lucy what can only be considered as grinning as me and splashing in the shallow end while Mongo pretends he's a speed boat dashing back and forth chasing his squeaky toy.

    Bloody dog.

    1. Was Lucy emboldened by Mongo? One of my neighbours tells me that her dog hates going on buses unless there's already another dog on board in which case he seems to think, oh well, if you're OK then I suppose I am.

      1. Pass. I think as he's 'pack leader' what he deems safe is ok for the others. But he's also nigh twice the weight and strength of Lucy who is only about 10 months.

  42. Sitting in the airport in Oslo waiting for a flight to Gatwick.
    Just paid Kr 170 for a pint of Guinness… That's £17!
    Wow! Best look at the pricelist next time!

    1. Is that sales tax mostly, though? I remember Swiss taxes on goods were high to us Englanders, but the locals paid lower taxes overall so you could avoid taxes by spending only on certain things.

      2. Alcohol duty. VAT at 25%. Doesn’t help its the only place selling the stuff at the airport, too.

    1. In the interests of parity and justice maybe she should lead a campaign for Britain to have as many mosques in Britain as there are churches in Saudi Arabia?

    2. What could go wrong with building a government based on ethnic and lgbt quotas – just look at Canada for an example.

      Sorry, must behave today because it is the national day of truth and reconciliation where we are supposed to sit and reflect on the harms done to her natives by whitey. Sod that it's sunny, I am off golfing.

  46. Just had some depressing news. Couple we have known for 40 years+. Husband 82; wife 75. Husband revealed to his wife that he had been having an affair for 4 years with a woman late 60s – and was leaving wife for said woman. Said woman impoverished; no house; no money. Cheating husband wealthy, property owner. Wonder what "younger" woman sees in him?

    Wife- now divorced is distraught. They had been married for 55 years.

    Count your blessing, folks…..

    1. Seen and heard that before , he required someone who didn't appear as aged as his wife … and himself ..

      Wealthy or not he will succumb to many things that won't satisfy his new squeeze .. what goes round comes around !

      1. Fortunately, she is extremely savvy about the family's financial matters and has already secured one of the three houses they owned. One other will be sold and she has got agreement for half the proceeds. Another will be kept and she'll spend holidays in it.

        It is the sense of being utterly deceived that gets her. They are a devout Baptist family – and the husband's total hypocrisy is another thorn in the flesh.

        1. Well i am glad the lady is set.

          I don't know why the old fool having a bob or two didn't install the woman in a flat nearby and dally with her in the afternoons after telling his wife that he was playing golf.

          I know it is deceitful but it certainly would have been less painful.

          I think the French have a healthier attitude to mistresses.

          1. The couple are Dutch – but live in France. The mistress is South Efrican (and wants a European passport – which is prolly behind her assertions of undying love).

    4. How very lucky those of us are who love our spouses and are loved back and would never dream of betraying them.

      1. Oh my goodness me. We’re on the move having sold ours to a couple in rented accommodation, and are buying a bungalow about 1.5 miles away. The number of bloody forms you have to fill in is horrendous.

        This morning the boiler didn’t light. We have someone coming at 3ish to look at it but fortunately Alf managed to reset it and it lit. We’d been thinking about getting it serviced although it’s only 3 years old. Then doorbell rang. Removal man to give quote coz he couldn’t come last Thursday when arranged. We’re also away tonight, hotel at Gatwick tonight, before flying to Portugal early tomorrow morning for a week long bowls tour. On top of that yet another form from solicitor to be filled in plus request for money! Haven’t packed yet! Need a holiday.

          1. Thank you, it should be easy as our purchase is a Probate sale and, apparently, it’s already applied for. Fingers crossed.

          2. I don't want to spoil your day (week/year) but a lifetime has taught me that, apart from adultery, property transfer is the thing that most people tell lies about most of the time.

          3. It’s 28.5 years since we moved and the number of forms is incredible. Thankfully this should be our last move before wooden boxes! ☹️

    7. A good and timely reminder to have things in order from the start, Bill. Thanks 🙂 Your female friend should immediately consult an experienced lawyer, ask around for recommendations from her other friends a possibly starting point especially ones who've gone through separation/divorce.

    8. At least she has presumably not found that he also has a paralell family of children by the ‘other woman’. That happened to a friend of mine.
      All of them are getting on so, even if the other woman is younger, her erstwhile other half might suddenly find himself as a carer for somebody he barely knows. One should be very wary about taking on a relatively unknown quantity in the autumn of life.

  47. From 10 Downing Street

    Dear Rosie

    I am not in the least surprised that you have abandoned the Labour Party that nurtured you.
    For a long time you have been a pain in the arse – with your ridiculous "opinions" about the
    scientific view of male and female. You are, of course, quite wrong about how women are defined.

    Your juvenile comments about the unsolicited gifts some of your former colleagues received
    are not worthy of comment.

    You won't be missed on the backbenches.

    Now just sod off and leave me in peace.

    Cur Ikea Slammer KC, MP.

      1. Just thought?

        There is a proud to be Lesbian minister in Trudeaus cabinet whoʻ has announced that she will be taking Oaternity leave after her wife gives birth in November. Apparently the pregnancy was not planned!
        One has to wonder how two women can end up with a surprise pregnancy – but any viable answers are beyond the wit of our censors.

        1. We all suspected that he would prove to be incompetent but I think we were not fully aware of just what a nasty, spiteful, vindictive, mendacious and corrupt little twerp he would reveal himself to be.

          Labour had a point in saying that a new general election should be called as a matter of principle if a Conservative Party leader is deposed. If, or maybe when, Starmer is deposed will they stick to that principle?

          1. Yo Rastus

            We all suspected that he would prove to be incompetent but I think we were not fully aware of just what a nasty, spiteful, vindictive, mendacious and corrupt little twerp

            Shurley, those are hs good points!

          4. Point of English grammar.

            You cannot have a sentence that contains both words: Labour and Principle.

          5. The principal problem with Labour principles is that they cannot tell the difference between homonyms, homophobes, homophones and homosexuals!

    3. Experiencing communists is a good lesson in why our medieval ancestors seemed to be such heartless bastards. If your feudal overlord lacks empathy and regards you as dispensable then you don't blink when it's his turn to have his entrails roasted.

  50. There's as much chance of the next Tory leader being a champion of core conservative values as there is of next head of Hezbollah being a champion of peace and reconciliation with Israel.

    New today in Free Speech is a piece on my attempt to find out how to stop the kleptocratic State from helping itself to your money , grandly titled How to Hide Your Wealth from Greedy Dictators . Many of you will know more about personal finance than me, not a high bar, if you do please leave any tips in the comments or write an article about it for us. For those who, like me, have been putting off sorting their finances out for years, it might be of some help – but you've got to act fast before they get you with the sting they call the budget, due soon.

    Also, Mark Smith's article about his time as a naval officer battling bureaucracy to get the Falkland Islands patrol ship to sea, shows just how the State wastes your money. Read it and get all indignant, it'll warm you up.

    freespeechbacklash.com

    1. Well…

      according to the new york post, your wish is granted

      Mr. Nasrallah was opposed to Israel, which he called “the Zionist entity,” and maintained that there should be one Palestine with equality for Muslims, Jews and Christians.

      1. Sorry to break it to you Richard, but Nasrallah has gone to meet his maker, helped along by the considerate Israelis. Hezbollah vow to exterminate the Zionist entity.

          1. Is that not the New York Times Richard? The NYP was the only MSM paper in the US that ran with the Hunter Biden laptop strory.

      2. An odd statement. Israel already has equality for Muslims, Jews and Christians. How is Palestine to be defined. The Ottoman Empire used the Romman name Syria Palestina but defined it more broadly as covering all their territories in the Levant. Is that what Nasrallah had in mind?

        1. A Very strange comment indeed but there again it was made by a left wing news site that probably takes direction from the Hamas Ministry of Truth!

        2. That is all there is with regard to Palestine, an ancient name for administrative purposes. The Ottomans recognized the native people as the Jews. There were no Palestinian Arabs and no Palestinian state, never was and never will be. The land is Judea and Samaria and has been Jewish for thousands of years. Just because they were driven into exile in no way means they forfeited the land.

          2. They certainly help fuel the fire but the problem is Islam. It is an Islamic rule that once a place has been occupied by Islam and the shahada has been said there the place is Islamic for eternity. This is what infuriates me about ignorant Christian clerics who invite Muslims into our churches. Once the imam has said the shahada, that church/cathedral is now Muslim territory in their eyes. Never ascribe good motivations to a Muslim cleric, they never have benevolence for you, the non-Muslim, indeed he is not permitted to do so by his religion.

          3. Thanks…agree. Shah should never have been displaced imo, largely due to France releasing Ayatollah. I recall watching marches on TV, very large numbers. As for churches, what isn’t being lost to Imams seems to be being lost to disco/s.

    2. It won't help, Tom..sorry…my advice is research IFAs, most of them are useless. I only found one after recommendation from auditor, who I'd known for many years.

    2. Not only the end of coal fired power generation but also the end of British steel making both of which use coal as their prime energy input. Whilst these closures may be partially attributed to loss making industries, the UK haa substantial reserves of high quality coal the mining of which the UK Government has banned in the interest of remaining the world leader in limiting greenhouse gases. Yet at the same time their is no evidence of global warming being constrained within the 1.5 degC target, their is little evidence of the gainful redeployment of redundant workers and the UK is losing the final functional vestiges of the industries that allowed Brtain to remain independent and become Great.

      I wonder what discussion Sir Humphrey would have had with the prime minister about the impact of these Government policies but perhaps the impact statement never passed over the PM's desk.

      1. I want to know that, when the lights do go out, when there's no industry and absolutely nothing changes in the world, the 'extreme weather' carries on if the Left will then accept that it was all for nothing and admit it was a hoax all along.

    4. All because another dull politician wants to be remembered.
      I expect AI would have been more sensible given all the facts and circumstances.

        1. They obviously don’t care or give
          a damn about the damage they cause to people’s lives out side of their political surroundings.
          They are probably committing treason against the British people on a daily basis.
          But B liar and his old flat mate fiddled with the treason laws late in his career.

        2. I saw a photo of him the other day, and he looked utterly demented, like he had just realised what a utter pratt he is.. He should never be in any position of the smallest responsibility. Perhaps a quiet room dressed in a straightjacket.

    1. and of course the increase in the use "Energy",

      That is:
      Energy to produce products from iron etc
      Energy to transport product, by sea, from far flung places
      also
      Increase in price of product
      Little, or no, employment in manufacturing industies
      Very few, if any, exports
      No one will design fings anymore

      The most important question, will Net Zero fit in with Sharia Law, 'cus that is coming to you soon

      3. No lacoste, it's perfectly sane.

        Their belief is that once the economy collapses then we will be ready to accept Communism.

        Remember that Starmer has been a Trotskyite for many years, and Milliband a Marxist.

    3. Who's the 'we'? I say frak, drill and nuke. Its the government and its hairbrained idiocy that is the problem. They are anti-reality and anti-British and seem hell bent on destroying the country by their perversity.

    4. And just think of the emissions in the countries who do, Johnny, and their Co2 transmission/transport to the UK. (We can do it btw, we're just being told it's not going to be done – I don't recall voting for it, do you?)

        1. Labour and Conservatives currently Tweedledum and Tweedledee, Johnny – we look from one to to’other and can’t tell the difference. Reason for no change.

    5. And if by any chance WW3 kicks off, how long will we be able to defend ourselves?
      Not very would be my guess.

    6. We are destroying our own country.

      But don't worry it is not an accident Starmer has instructed Milband deliberately to wipe out any form of capitalism he can find.

    1. With a bit of luck they'll Reform in the Arctic and leave us alone in the Antarctic with Anne Widdecombe.

      .

  55. Russia says it has captured another village in eastern Ukraine. 30 September, 2024.

    Russian forces have captured the village of Nelipivka in Ukraine’s eastern Donetsk region, the Interfax news agency cited the Russian defence ministry as saying today. This claim has not been independently verified by the Guardian.

    Russian forces continued offensive operations near Nelipivka and west of Toretsk in the direction of the village of Shcherbynivka, also in the Donetsk region, on 28 and 29 September, according to the Institute for the Study of War.

    Nelipivka had a population of just under 1,000 people before the war began in 2022, according to official statistics.

    Russian forces have in recent weeks accelerated their progress in Donetsk, taking a series of towns and villages, including claiming to have captured Marynivka and Ukrainsk.

    Moscow’s forces have been pushing towards the important logistics hub of Pokrovsk. If the east Ukrainian city falls, then Russian forces will cut off one of the main supply routes in the region.

    An antidote to the childish propaganda in the Telegraph.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/sep/30/kursk-kyiv-drones-volodymyr-zelenskyy-vladimir-putin-russia-ukraine-war-live-updates?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-66fa6ce28f0859f4a95e684c#block-66fa6ce28f0859f4a95e684c

    1. The missing text is:

      "So I went outside, counted 7 pigeons and registered them.

      Hope that helps the UK Government with their pursuit of the Orwellian dream."

      3. At any time, any place, Sue – in a town must be counted multiple times if keeping hens in your back yard. And if in countryside numerous wild birds, good luck with that. More bx.

      4. These things can backfire when the people get used to flipping the bird to the government. Gen Z is shaping up nicely, really beginning to spread their wings!

      1. "Good morning, I'm from the Government and I'm here to inspect your Budgerigar"

        "He's on holiday"

        in the Canary Isles….

        3. By and amazing coincidence, the British Budgerigar Society has a new director. Welcome to Hugh Zapritti-Boyden…

    3. Pedant Alert! The form says "Register your poultry and other captive birds – less than 50 birds".

      Of course, we all know that it should read "fewer than 50 birds".

    4. I am off to Lidl (there are other suppliers) to get a Truss(ed) Chicken to cook for tea

      What is the email address?

    5. Of course, you always have the term 'birds' used in slang ie

      You may find them in a Hotel, a Motel or a Brotel.

    6. Good grief, this would bankrupt me! This is the list of birds I have seen on my property in the past decade:

      1. Great Cormorant
      2. Grey Heron
      3. Mute Swan
      4. Whooper Swan
      5. Canada Goose
      6. Greylag Goose
      7. Mallard
      8. Common Buzzard
      9. Red Kite
      10. Hen Harrier
      11. Goshawk
      12. Sparrowhawk
      13. Rough-legged Buzzard
      14. Golden Eagle
      15. White-tailed Eagle
      16. Kestrel
      17. Common Pheasant
      18. Common Crane
      19. Oystercatcher
      20. Wood Pigeon
      21. Collared Dove
      22. Common Cuckoo
      23. Tawny Owl
      24. Common Swift
      25. Great Spotted Woodpecker
      26. Lesser Spotted Woodpecker
      27. Skylark
      28. Barn Swallow
      29. House Martin
      30. White Wagtail
      31. Waxwing
      32. Wren
      33. Dunnock
      34. Common Redstart
      35. Thrush Nightingale
      36. Blackbird
      37. Song Thrush
      38. Redwing
      39. Fieldfare
      40. Lesser Whitethroat
      41. Garden Warbler
      43. Chiffchaff
      44. Willow Warbler
      45. Pied Flycatcher
      46. Spotted Flycatcher
      47. Goldcrest
      48. Marsh Tit
      49. Blue Tit
      50. Great Tit
      51. Nuthatch
      52. Nutcracker
      53. Magpie
      54. Jackdaw
      55. Rook
      56. Hooded Crow
      57. Raven
      58. Starling
      59. Tree Sparrow
      60. House Sparrow
      61. Chaffinch
      62. Brambling
      63. Bullfinch
      64. Greenfinch
      65. Goldfinch
      66. Siskin
      67. Common (Mealy) Redpoll
      68. Lesser Redpoll
      69. Hawfinch
      70. Yellowhammer
      71. White Stork
      72. Common Gull
      73. Herring Gull
      74. Lesser Black-backed Gull
      75. Great Black-backed Gull
      76. Honey Buzzard
      77. Common Whitethroat.
      78. Jay
      79. Woodcock
      80. Treecreeper
      81. Barnacle Goose
      82. Common Crossbill

          8. When I lived in London I gave up feeding the native birds as the Wring(sic) neck parakeets arrived mob handed on the bird feeders to the dismay of the natives so I thought bu@@er it! No more goodies for you!

          10. Wood Pigeons yes but Parakeets apparently not unless you have good reason and apply for a licence to cull the bleeders….

          11. Ah!
            So you put the food where it can not be overlooked by neighbours, also with a decent backstop, and use an air-bottle rifle with suppressor.

          12. This is what has happened to us. I spent years defeating the squirrels and then found the green invaders were monopolising the feeders but, much worse, the weight of them led to scattering of the seed on the ground and a plague of rats. One day the bottom of our garden turned into Hamlyn, Town in Brunswick and I knew the feeders had to go.

        4. Years ago, a lovely young man appeared at our door and asked if he might fly one down on our bottoms. I thought he meant a jet plane and expressed worries about safety, at which point he went to his car and got out one of the most beautiful birds I have ever seen, which he then flew. Breathtaking.

        6. The one I saw took me by surprise. My first floor shower room has a plain glass window and it overlooks the garden so birdwatching from there (with my permanently-stationed old pair of Leitz binoculars) is good, especially in winter.

          I was viewing the garden when a ring-tailed hen harrier (either female or young male) flew below my line of sight between the house and the adjacent annexe. It was a breathtaking moment.

          The star garden bird though has to be the nutcracker, which took up residence for a week when the hazel tree was in full bounty. At the time I did not possess a decent lens for my camera so I could not photograph it.

        7. The one I saw took me by surprise. My first floor shower room has a plain glass window and it overlooks the garden so birdwatching from there (with my permanently-stationed old pair of Leitz binoculars) is good, especially in winter.

          I was viewing the garden when a ring-tailed hen harrier (either female or young male) flew below my line of sight between the house and the adjacent annexe. It was a breathtaking moment.

          The star garden bird though has to be the nutcracker, which took up residence for a week when the hazel tree was in full bounty. At the time I did not possess a decent lens for my camera so I could not photograph it.

      2. What a fantastic list, do you log your sightings? – I was looking to see if there were any not on the list that I have seen in my garden. The only ones I could come up with were the long-tailed tit, and, surprisingly, the robin!

        1. I do log all my sightings. I have been an amateur ornithologist for over 40 years and I spent 4 years in the early 1990s as a trained and licensed BTO bird ringer. I had reasonably-sized 'garden lists' when I lived in the UK (five addresses in Derbyshire, South Yorkshire, Nottinghamshire and Norfolk); but nothing resembling the list I enjoy here in Skåne, southern Sweden.

          I also have a further list of birds I have recorded on my local birding patch, around 2km from home. This patch consists of a small lake, farmland (including a seasonally flooded field) and woodland. On my patch I have viewed 58 species, 21 of which I have not seen from my garden. These are:

          Red-necked Grebe
          Shelduck
          Common Teal
          Garganey
          Marsh Harrier
          Common Coot
          Golden Plover
          Jack Snipe
          Curlew
          Wood Sandpiper
          Yellow Wagtail
          Whinchat
          Northern Wheatear
          Marsh Warbler
          Reed Bunting
          Gadwall
          Tree Pipit
          Linnet
          Tufter Duck
          Greenshank
          Great White Egret

          I have taken reasonably good photographs of many of these species.

          1. A few of my favourite snapshots.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/87450eb81b6bdd332abb9f5a71f79c297456f0600e315dff13cc70a03487d132.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d3b33073c7939116b9e940ca31a94a2ad5ae35e62eef5dc1cb38b1ed29050996.jpg
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d289ea49c77c0f644ee41275fc376bb146e9290fc70885774dba85d28591e02b.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c5bd92354b9b4ceee5e7af2334b9cec58613e837f400ee6f46dee25965268327.jpg
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dd6c697fb8dde10704bafc8fe523943816a3718ba031de3e68b9e2ce80df1852.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/817ef2b2c25e55e339545576795c6beb56ab0a6000bd2a56218f20982ca0e826.jpg Common Whitethroat. White-tailed Eagle. Great White Egret. Sparrowhawk. Red Kite. Red-necked Grebe,

      3. Great list, Grizz, I see around 80% of your list..would have been more at one time, think the traffic gets some (ducks etc crossing road) plus greys been bad, nest robbers that they are. Neighbour traps them now. Also shooters get some on your list 🙁 Quite a few days lately where wrens fight over a small patch of stones by driver side of my car…the sound and the fury…

        1. They are omnipresent here but I never get tired of watching them. In the 1980s I had to travel to mid-Wales in the hope of seeing one.

        2. They are omnipresent here but I never get tired of watching them. In the 1980s I had to travel to mid-Wales in the hope of seeing one.

  58. and of course the increase in the use "Energy",

    That is:
    Energy to produce products from iron etc
    Energy to transport product, by sea, from far flung places
    also
    Increase in price of product
    Little, or no, employment in manufacturing industies
    Very few, if any, exports
    No one will design fings anymore

    The most important question, will Net Zero fit in with Sharia Law, 'cus that is coming to you soon

  59. Who's the 'we'? I say frak, drill and nuke. Its the government and its hairbrained idiocy that is the problem. They are anti-reality and anti-British and seem hell bent on destroying the country by their perversity.

  60. "Good morning, I'm from the Government and I'm here to inspect your Budgerigar"

    "He's on holiday"

    in the Canary Isles….

  64. Dr John Campbell reviews the mRNA vaccines that are gaining use worldwide not only for flu and COVID2 this winter but now also as a vaccine for RSV.

    He covers the facts as released by manufacturers but has some reservations about the systemic nature of mRNA vaccines which are introduced througbout cells in the whole body. Because of that he admits he won't be having an RSV jab:

    https://youtu.be/tFzTTuuzfH0?si=veMMzXlaoaOw9Jj0

    1. Did you feel up lifted ?
      I remember back in the day when my cheeky GP set out to carry out the check. He said "I hope you're going to enjoy this" !
      I replied "I hope you're not either".

    4. Just eff off Boris.
      You had your chance and did exactly the same as nearly all of or politicians have.
      Eff it up.

    5. Reported earlier but here you are:

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    1. How Schleswig-Holstein sold their reliable diesel ferry for a song, spent 3.3 million Euro for a new emissions-free solar ferry that doesn't work, & increased carbon emissions on top of it all

      A Millipedian tale?

      2. I wonder if Miliband is so completely mad that he does not ask himself – not even for a millisecond – whether the whole climate change scare is a fraud and a scam.

        1. Rastus, please read his background and education.

          He is the son of immigrant parents, Belgian-born Marxist sociologist Ralph Miliband and Polish-born Marion Kozak, both from Polish Jewish families. His mother, a human rights campaigner and early CND member, survived the Holocaust thanks to being protected by Catholic Poles but her father, Ed's maternal grandfather, did not. His father Ralph was a Marxist academic whose father fled with him to England during the Second World War.

          [Marxist parents and labour background including Tony Benn and Gordon Brown. His schooling suggest that he was OK with maths and science but chose to read PPE at University.]

          I reckon that he knows what he is doing – wrecking the economy – but not sure if his peers understand that!

          He is highly dangerous – but not necessarily a lunatic?

        1. Not sure….would it be OK to send it again, reply to this msg? (you likely did, and I likely did, but my memory not what it was – at least I remember that :-D)

        2. I just remembered…did I say something about dogs digging in sand, which kept falling back and dog kept digging…

          1. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f76c992f4904e18c3a22dd2bb3dd576941b067fbd059c8208e5276046acd6355.jpg

            Poem by William Blake

            Mock on, mock on, Voltaire, Rousseau:
            Mock on, mock on: ‘tis all in vain!
            You throw the sand against the wind,
            And the wind blows it back again.

            And every sand becomes a Gem,
            Reflected in the beam divine;
            Blown back they blind the mocking Eye,
            But still in Israel’s paths they shine.

            The Atoms of Democritus
            And the Newton’s Particles of Light
            Are sands upon the Red Sea shore,
            Where Israel’s tents do shine so bright.

            When Kris Kristofferson was at Oxford studying English Literature he took a special interest in William Blake's poetry

          2. Thank you, Rastus..something to add to the list of things I didn’t know:-) Of all the things I draw/paint, the human body is the most complex (especially the face), Blake captures the pose exceptionally well (imo). A grain of sand is indeed a wonderful thing, they are all unalike apparently.

  70. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/be6e0a883f5b342f78b3a4fdb62fd75e53f47b76e25a8200c363ef323c4e3666.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fd0c8a8e10e4d67654fb101abaf83f5577742fc3e866e689d74f0b772809dbe1.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3b97959a48da9d4875f77b3de67dc49594ed429240dc5e8523e3d8f4caecf23f.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9ce26921781d09e0936f89a36232bb9bb27e476c06a99f7d6b0796ef6027523e.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e11f51654304b4982154378af488caf9442ff87652277449e81cf06958e72c8c.png Ruff. Blue-headed Yellow Wagtail. Northern Wheatear. Marsh Warbler. Common Crane.

  72. Evening, all. Been a nothing sort of day; just before the power was due to go off I had an automated phone call telling me it was cancelled. I couldn't do much anyway because a) it was tipping down with rain and blowing a gale and b) I was expecting a delivery (that finally arrived just after the last time of the slot). I did take Kadi for a walk after that, both of us wearing macs and both of us getting quite wet. Then I had to assemble the garden furniture I'd ordered which had just arrived. I am getting quite expert at assembly now (lots of practice) but this one took a bit of figuring out before I got it to work (folding table).

    I don't think the next Con leader would be allowed to be one who was truly conservative, honestly. They really have lost the plot.

    1. Took a van load of mushroom trays filled with chopsawn sticks to t'Lad's, did a bit of shopping, made dinner and did the washing up.

      1. That's far more productive than I've been. I did cut back some of the branches the rain and wind brought down – otherwise I shouldn't have been able to get down the path.

  73. In order to convince us all that he is 'working class' Starmer stressed that he was the son of a tool maker. (Shades of Dusty Springfield – The only man who was ever faker was the son of a toolmaker)

    The absurd class system in Britain can be fun if you don't take it too seriously. Income alone does not make you upper class as it does in America. I wrote a satirical song – an ironical impersonation of Blair – the Populist Prime Minister from a Minor Public School – when he first became PM

    One of the verses was:

    Now socially I'm nouveau lower- middle -upper class
    But my Oxford plum-vowels I've exchanged for flatter Ohs and Ars
    I despise the aristocracy – I'm an inverted snob
    But I look down with contempt upon that common Prescott yob.
    I toady to the royals like the best of sycophants
    But I hate the Church of England and those Ulster Protestants.
    And as I said to Hoddle* whose career I wanted wrecked
    "Religious freedom's quite all right if it's politically correct!

    Some may remember that Glen Hoddle got himself mocked when he was the England Football Team manager when he said he believed in reincarnation.

    1. (Shades of Dusty Springfield – The only man who was even faker was the son of a toolmaker).

      This should be published everywhere, in order that it might go viral, and force him out of office!

  74. Reply to KJ (the thread is too old to allow responses). Oscar was never a digger. Charlie used to dig the carpet under the table for some unknown reason. He also used to dig up my bulbs as soon as I'd planted them! I had to make sure he was indoors and didn't see me digging in the garden. My setter used to dig himself a scrape under the trees and lie in it. Kadi isn't a digger, either, but he does like to ruck his blanket up, as did Oscar.

    1. My late hound, Robinson, slept on a chair on the upstairs landing. He had his own blanket. If we stayed up too late he'd drag his blanket downstairs, into the kitchen, in front of the AGA. I swear he'd be muttering, "What kind of time do you call this?"

      You will know the feeling – I miss him yet – though he died in January 1991 at the age of 15 years and seven months.

      1. My red setter used to be a bit like that, except he had his own bed in the bedroom. Every night, at 10pm exactly, he'd get up and go to the door to the hall because he wanted to go to bed. We just used to let him go upstairs and he went to bed and slept. We used to say, if we went out and came back a bit late, that he'd be tapping his watch and grumbling "what time do you call this?". I still miss Oscar – oddly enough, more than my other dogs whom I had for much longer. He was a character in whom I invested so much time and effort, I suppose.

      3. Our lovely family friend Lottie the lovely black Lab had to be put to sleep 18 months ago.
        She was one of the nicest 'people' I've ever known.
        I still feel sad.

      4. "… blanket downstairs, into the kitchen, in front of the AGA"
        Hence his nickname, Hearth Robinson.

    2. I don’t know why they do it :-DD I believe some animals urinite and then roll in it, also after defecating…and many animals urinate to mark territory. I think bulbs are poisonous to animals? Did Oscar did in newly turned soil, I’ve had a few pets seemed to like doing that:-D And yes! they’ve all rucked up their blankets, and will also do similar with duvets etc (and even head on pillow)…jumping down with guilty look if I catch ’em….

      1. No, Oscar wasn't interested in digging at all (apart from making himself a pillow to rest his head on from his rucked up fleecy blanket. Charlie didn't eat the bulbs, he just dug them up again (and plants).

        1. Propped heads seem important, to stay half awake, hear and see any activity, perhaps? Especially if you have pups/kits to protect. I understand if a male lion kills his rival, he will also kill the cubs, female all to himself. Perhaps Oscar is doing similar 😀 As for Charlie…are they the enemy..:-D…whatever, lovely memories to keep close, Conway :-))

          1. Kadi makes himself a pillow out of Oscar's fleecy rug. They used to share it once Kadi arrived. Now he's got it all to himself.

          2. At least not making a pillow out of Oscar, my two will snuggle together when the stove not lit…both giving me ‘the look’…

          3. No. Charlie used to use Jazz as his pillow – and wriggle around in the bed they shared until Jazz was half way up the back of it.

          5. Yes, but death is part of life. I'd rather not miss out on having the companionship just because I know they live shorter lives than I do.

          7. And cross breeds longest of all. Charlie and Jazz both made it well into their teens and my GSD x wolfhound made it to 13, which is very good for a big dog. Wolfhounds and GSDs are old at 8 normally.

          8. That is exceptional for the GSD x wolfhound. I’ve had a good number of rescue dogs, all cross breeds. Once asked vet was there a breed more healthy than others, he said ‘yes, what you’ve got, mutts’, and that he’d encountered a lot of problems with ‘pure’-breeds. I think the Kennel Club is a horrible society. And I really don’t like Crufts.

  75. Time for me to go – a miserable day – rain followed by more rain. More follows, apparently.

    Have a spiffing evening choosing the next prime minister.

    A demain.

    1. The teenager left migrants ‘absolutely terrified’

      As if.

      And what did Queer Starmer do when terrified little teenage girls were being tortured, folded up like deckchairs and even murdered?
      Spiteful gaylord did nowt.

      1. Anyhow crank it up.. a full blown military coup is the other way you'll get this lot & the LibDems in USA out of office.

      2. I rather suspect that if the migrants even saw her, all they would have thought about was using her sexually.

  77. Utterly off topic
    I enjoy "Pointless".
    One of my pet hates is people in the head to head who answer a question that they think the other contestant has got wrong.
    A) it is bloody stupid because if the other contestant is right you are guaranteed to lose.
    B) it rubs your opponent's face in the dirt which unnecessary.
    The only time one should do it is if it is genuinely the only answer you know.
    It happened this evening and I was delighted that the couple in question didn't win the jackppot.

        1. I'm surprised you think it's fixed; politically correct, yes, but fixed, no.
          Why on earth would they bother?

          1. You can’t convince me that the amounts of people who vote can go down to one when there are a couple of thousand pounds at stake for the bbc coffers.
            The whole programme is pointless 🤔
            Even one of the biggest bores on the planet, Richard Osmond has found better things to do.

          4. Oddly enough, I can easily see how one person in a random group of 100 can give the answer.

            For sake of argument, in a very large number of categories I can provide one of the answers.

            In subjects I know something about I regularly get at least one zero and often get three.
            Things like celebrities, pop music, cinema I can't get any.

            As to the BBC coffers, the money is essentially a 1,000 plus a few 250's. It can mount up, but the fact it is doing so means it hasn't been won!

        1. I quiz binge on Monday nights with Mastermind, Only Connect and University Challenge. I used to enjoy the original Eggheads when Dermot Murnaghan was in the chair but stopped watching it when the unfunny cretin Jeremy Vine took over.

          1. I used to watch all of those and enjoyed them.

            Only Connect is poor in my view because there is too much guesswork/luck involved.
            UC has "woked" to broke. (I was first reserve to the college team in the early 70's)
            Eggheads was OK but never really appealed, I prefer The Chase.
            Any quiz show where one can have a fair chance of competing is fun.

          3. I find the chasers arrogant. I suppose that means they are succeeding in playing their parts.

      3. The very title put me off so I've never watched. Plus I find Mr Armstrong rather irritating – but that's probably just me…

          1. Aw, that was playing on a big screen for a children’s party at work and one wee girly was beside herself, jumping up and down with glee shouting “Duggee! Duggee!”

          2. It’s a great program – the toddlers love it and there is sufficient clever comedy in there to keep the adults happy.

          5. Beg to differ; the narrator is Mr Armstrong, whereas Duggee simply communicates with woofs. Try Bluey.

          6. I’ve heard Alexander actually do the ‘woofs’ once on Pointless, even though I dont think he does it in the show. Bluey’s excellent also!

    2. I agree. Knowing your opponent has given a wrong answer you know that by giving the right answer to any of the other questions will get you through so why, as you put it, rub their faces in it. As for that effeminate twat Gok – words fail me

    3. I like Pointless – Alexander Armstrong is very good, but it was better when Richard Osman was in tandem with him. Sometimes the guest 'backup' is OK – sometimes they arent – Gok Wan(ker) is bleeding irritating!
      Actually, Richard Osman's House of Games on BBC2, just after Pointless finishes, is an extremely innovative quiz show with some really excellent rounds.

      2. Aagh – I find that the most irritating programme on TV.
        If RO says 'shall we?' one more time, I'll throw the tele out of the window.

  78. Bloody hell one of the main items on the ITV news this evening is featuring 'king Strictly. My word it's absolute garbage.

      1. Problem is Phizz I can’t usually manage to watch the news from start to finish.
        The media is like a leaking plastic bag filled with holes and hate filled propaganda.

        1. Why bother with all that dross – you know what it is. Spend your time on looking at online news.

      1. I didn’t watch it, I saw it and turned it off. 🤗
        But I did watch the later programmes about our ancient history and people’s lives more than 5000 years ago. The poor buggers.

        1. That’s all they were used to. One of the difficulties with being the age that many of us are, is that we remember when things WERE better and this country WAS different. Soon people won’t even have that memory, if we do nothing.

          1. Problem is T we’ve had plenty of people telling us about the damage being caused by the growing lumps under the carpet. Enoch Powell was one of our best more honest predictive people in UK politics.
            As we unfortunately we now know he was right. But of course ‘too far right’ to be honest. Which he actually was.
            How much evidence do people need ?

          2. Some people will always go around with blinkers and earflaps on. Any amount of evidence will not persuade them. It is made worse by the systematic indoctrination which has taken place over the last few decades – it is harder for many now to accept a new proposition and view, than one that has been fed to them constantly throughout their lives.

  81. Afternoon all! We've arrived at our final place to stay – it's a bit more up market and we have a large room, very handy for the restaurant area. Birds on the feeders outside. It's very hot here – it was a long and dusty ride in an open-sided truck this morning. We had a good lunch and time now to relax. We're here for two nights and then head for home.
    This evening we hope to see an ocelot.

          1. There's at least one in Telford; she went walkabout a couple of weeks ago and sparked a county-wide search! She's back home now.

    2. It sounds as if you have had a wonderful trip.
      Memories, if not whisky, galore.
      Don't get bitten by something horrid.

    1. I thought the junior doctors and the nurses had been given whopping pay increases. I remember the empty hospitals with staff making dance videos whilst the rest of us were being put out of business during Covid lockdowns.

      I remember the so-called Nightingale Hospitals left empty after vast expenditure and equipped with ventilators. I remember the ventilators were ordered to protect medical staff from infection whereas in reality intubation only accelerated deaths.

  84. Just caught a bit of Jenrick's speech, but could have been all four of them

    It's just a jump to the left
    And then a step to the right
    Put your hands on your hips
    You bring your knees in tight
    But it's the pelvic thrust
    That really drives you insane
    Let's do the Time Warp again
    Let's do the Time Warp again

  86. From Coffee House, the Spectator

    Can anything stop Germany’s decline?
    Ross Clark30 September 2024, 12:51pm
    Brexit is, we’re told, a disaster that shaved a hefty slice off UK economic growth. But there does seem to be a very large proverbial elephant standing in the way of this thesis. Our EU neighbours don’t seem to have been doing any better than an admittedly sluggish – if now recovering – Britain. While the UK economy grew by 0.7 per cent in the first quarter of this year followed by 0.5 per cent in the second quarter, the French economy managed only 0.3 per cent and 0.2 per cent.

    It is Germany that continues to surprise most on the downside. The economy shrank again in the second quarter, by 0.1 per cent. The German economy has now contracted in four of the last seven quarters, only avoiding the technical definition of a recession by virtue of the fact that so far it has not seen two consecutive quarters of contraction.

    Nor are things looking too bright for the foreseeable future. The German government has just downgraded its expectations. Previous forecasts for 0.3 per cent growth over the course of this year have now been downgraded to zero. Germany has, of course, been struck particularly hard by the Ukraine war, thanks to its reliance on Russian gas. Angela Merkel’s government made a fatal miscalculation of continuing this dependence even after Putin had already helped himself to Crimea in 2014 – the deal for the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, unbelievable though it seems now, was made after that invasion.

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    Yet the German economy has been in trouble since before Putin’s second Ukraine invasion and predates Covid, too. Output from the mighty car industry peaked in 2015; the number of cars produced is now only two-thirds of what was manufactured then. Last week, Volkswagen announced what would once have been unthinkable: it is proposing to close down factories in Germany. Wider German industrial production turned negative in 2018; apart from the rebound from the deep chasm of Covid, it has enjoyed few months of growth since. Germany has been going through the same process of deindustrialisation that other western European countries have already gone through as production is transferred to lower-cost environments – only in Germany’s case it has been delayed by a decade or two. That doesn’t make it any less painful, however. In fact, it seems to be happening at a more rapid pace than it did in Britain, spurred on by Germany’s 2045 net-zero target. In 2022, another German industrial giant, BASF, announced that it no longer made sense to invest in Europe – and that it would instead build a £10 billion plant in China, citing energy costs as a reason.

    German industry still has a long, long way to fall. Manufacturing currently accounts for 26.6 per cent of the German economy, nearly three times Britain’s 9.3 per cent. It still employs 7.5 million workers. As Britain showed in the 1980s, when factories close, they take down whole communities with them. That is likely to give the far-right, which is already winning regional elections, a large boost.

    The decline of the German industrial economy is likely to be Europe’s big story over the next decade. Not that that will stop frustrated UK Remainers bleating that Brexit is the fount of all evil.

    1. The deal for the Nord Stream 2 pipeline was not quite as unbelievable as it seems if one factors in that Merkel was an Easy East German communist.

    2. The deal for the Nord Stream 2 pipeline was not quite as unbelievable as it seems if one factors in that Merkel was an Easy East German communist.

  87. From Coffee House, the Spectator

    What will happen to Europe if it can’t control the migrant crisis?
    Gavin Mortimer30 September 2024, 8:28am
    The victory of the Freedom party in Austria’s general election came as Israel intensified its air strikes across Lebanon. Lebanon’s Prime Minister, Najib Mikati, says that more than one million people have been displaced from their homes as a consequence of the military strikes.

    The ramifications of the turmoil in the Middle East will terrify Europe
    Included in that figure are a substantial number of the estimated two million Syrian refugees who fled to Lebanon a decade ago to escape the war in their own country. Many have faced discrimination in Lebanon and it has been reported that during the Israeli air strikes Syrians have been refused entry into the country’s air raid shelters.

    Thousands of Syrians are now returning to their homeland along with a growing number of Lebanese. They will find a country still ravaged by war. Earlier this month the UN Syria Commission of Inquiry warned that Syria faced ‘new waves of hostilities’.

    The ramifications of the turmoil in the Middle East will terrify Europe. At the weekend the foreign secretaries of Britain, France and Germany called for a ceasefire. ‘A diplomatic solution is the only way to restore security and stability for the Lebanese and Israeli people,’ said David Lammy.

    Ten years ago the war in Syria was at its height. In its end of year report, the United Nations Refugee Agency declared that ‘2014 was the year which the humanitarian assistance reached a breaking point and so if things do not improve we will face a critical situation.’

    That situation duly arrived in 2015, and Europe’s response – or more specifically Germany’s response – was to throw open the continent’s doors in August that year. Approximately 1.3 million refugees and migrants surged into Europe, creating an instability that exists to this day.

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    That is why the Freedom Party triumphed in Austria’s election. Voters support Herbert Kickl’s goal of turning the country into ‘Fortress Austria’ after a decade of mass immigration.

    In 2015 Austria was third behind Hungary and Sweden in terms of per capita asylum applications, and resentment has been steadily growing ever since. Immigration and insecurity were at the heart of the election. The Freedom Party claimed that the ruling centre-right People’s Party have ‘not secured our borders, but have degraded our police force to a kind of “welcoming committee” for illegal immigrants.’

    An estimated 240,000 illegal immigrants have arrived in Austria since the People’s party won the 2020 election. This is despite the extensive publicity campaign launched by the government in 2022 to deter immigrants. Among the adverts broadcast on social media was one which read: ‘Illegal Migration: You will fail’. Another boasted ‘There’s no getting through’.

    Like a growing number of centrist governments in Europe, the People’s party were punished for their failure to fulfil their promise to police their borders.

    This issue has come to dominate European politics like no other, and parties ignore voters’ anger at their peril. Rishi Sunak paid the price for his inability to curb mass immigration (as will Keir Starmer in time) and Emmanuel Macron and Olaf Scholz have seen their authority ebb away in the last two years because they sat on their hands while their borders were breached.

    Europe is now confronted with a fresh refugee and migrant crisis in the Middle East. This time around no European leader will copy Angela Merkel in issuing an open invitation but there will surely be a marked increase in the number of people arriving illegally either through the Balkans or across the Mediterranean.

    When Merkel opened up Europe in August 2015 she did so with a cry of ‘we can do this’. History has proved her hopelessly wrong. Europe will have to follow Austria’s example and turn itself into a fortress. If it doesn’t, the continent may in time go the same way as Lebanon.

    1. If only we'd turn ourselves into a fortress. Unlike Europe, we have a moat. Time to pull up the drawbridge.

      1. It won't happen, Conway. We just don't know why. We're fed narratives about population number decline, job vacancies and the rest…

    2. East German Communist Merkel started the rot in August 2015 when she declared:

      ‘We can do this’.

      1. She had no right to speak for the EU. She is now apparently happily living in Paraguay, away from all the misery she has caused.

  88. Perhaps they should try the Don Corleone school of management?

    "The head of Swedish diplomacy did not hide the fact that “there is a difference in terms of which countries immigrants come from.” When large groups of workers from neighboring Finland arrived in the peaceful Scandinavian country in the 1970s, it brought good results. The Finns quickly filled the job market and did not pose a threat to security. “They are similar to us and quickly blend into society, and it is similar now in the case of Ukrainians,” she said, adding that it is completely different “accepting such people versus immigrants from other regions,” the minister said.

    Stenergard spoke, without any regard for being politically correct, about those migrant groups causing trouble. She admitted that in the case of immigrants from the Middle East and Africa, “we are dealing with lower education and a completely different cultural background.”

    “Many of these countries have a different society and different ways of resolving conflicts,” she said, adding that “migration must be regulated in order to maintain mobility.”

    In Sweden – at least so far – they are looking for subtle ways, aside from strict border controls. The government has proposed in the draft budget for next year a relocation subsidy of up to 350,000 kronor (€30,000) for each migrant who agrees to return to their country voluntarily.

    Stockholm hopes that this will tempt more foreigners to leave the country, especially those who have not assimilated into Swedish society and who generate all sorts of problems.Unfortunately, polling shows very few would accept.

    Details here:

    https://rmx.news/article/swedish-foreign-minister-says-country-must-speak-openly-of-the-downsides-of-mass-immigration/

    2. Some brave soul dared to point out in the comments under a typically anti-Jewish article on the RT website the other day that Arabs with an average IQ of 80 are not going to win against Israelis with an average IQ of 120.

      1. Agreed. I can't remember who pointed it out, but whoever it was noted that when Moses led the Israelites out of Egypt he turned left and found the land of Milk & Honey . If he had turned right he would have found the land with all the oil!!!

  91. It's an infamous day in UK industrial history, in two respects;

    The closure of the last blast furnace at Port Talbot

    The closure of the last British coal-fired power station at Ratcliffe-on-Soar.

    The end of the Industrial Revolution.

      1. I'm from very near PT.

        Two old boys were sitting on a bench looking up at the sky and arguing whether it was the sun or the moon they could see.
        They stopped a passer by and asked, Is that the sun or the moon'
        The passer by replied ' I don't know, I'm from Port Talbot'

        (C) Max Boyce

    2. Meanwhile, we're importing from other countries what we could make ourselves so how is thet good greenery?

      1. 393775+ up ticks,

        Evening G,
        Good to hear and same as that, I find a great deal of beneficial change.

  94. 393775+ up ticks,

    One must admit this has been the problem these last thirty plus years, the political party close shop voters, they are their own worst enemy enamas.

    Dt,
    More people now prefer Sunak government to Starmer’s, poll finds
    Sir Keir’s time in Downing Street has already been marred by freebies scandal and winter fuel raid

    1. The tall man standing (third from the right) is smiling because he will be soon taking his wife (extreme right) to do a bit of shopping at the local furniture store. Lol.

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