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Pandora papers: biggest ever leak of offshore data exposes financial secrets of rich and powerful. 4 October 2021.
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The files were leaked to the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ) in Washington. It shared access to the leaked data with select media partners including the Guardian, BBC Panorama, Le Monde and the Washington Post. More than 600 journalists have sifted through the files as part of a massive global investigation.
The Russian president, Vladimir Putin, whom the US suspects of having a secret fortune, does not appear in the files by name. But numerous close associates do, including his best friend from childhood – the late Petr Kolbin – whom critics have called a “wallet” for Putin’s own wealth, and a woman the Russian leader was allegedly once romantically involved with. None responded to invitations to comment.
Morning everyone. The ICRJ strikes me as just the sort of pompous title that the CIA would dream up for a propaganda front. That it is based in Washington makes it pretty much a certainty. This said the truly interesting thing about this “leak” is who is not on it! There is no Biden (Hello! Ukraine? Anyone in the ICRJ heard about it?), no Johnson, no Macron; no one from that fount of fiscal integrity, the EU; in fact none of the worlds serving Globalists. Blair is there of course but he’s a spent political force and King Abdullah (who?) of Jordan. Even among those chosen there is no suggestion of any criminality which might result in some form of prosecution or worse retaliation. In other words it’s all pretty much gossip and hot air, most of it already known.
I’m only commenting on this because while Vlad has the smallest entry here he has the biggest head in the photograph. This lack of factual evidence has not prevented (at the moment), two articles appearing in other publications; accusing him (as always) by innuendo and without a shred of evidence, of nefarious dealings. In fact one suspects that is the main purpose of it. These papers for all their claims to exclusivity, shock value and revelation are a cheap and simple device for mischievous misinformation.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/oct/03/pandora-papers-biggest-ever-leak-of-offshore-data-exposes-financial-secrets-of-rich-and-powerful
When i heard a bit about it on the radio earlier I thought that it would be just about the people that are not on the globalist payroll,
Morning Bob. A couple of Globalists do get a mention but it is always made clear that they were just being naughty!
“He’s not the Messiah, he’s just a naughty billionaire”!
Morning Minty et al
Good Morning Folks,
Pouring here
Fine here. Showers forecast.
Back and no sugar please, Bob3.
Black even.
Lockdown went on far too long….
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Staines-upon- Thames
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Good Morning, all
Dry and dull
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Dr. Hilary Jones’ country home is targeted by ‘vicious anti-vaxxers’ over GMB star’s support of the COVID jab.
Residents in the peaceful Kent village woke to an army of enraged protestors, who describe themselves as ‘soldiers of truth’, wielding placards and megaphones as they gathered outside his sprawling property on Saturday.
A source told Mail Online: ‘A vicious bunch of protestors turned up on the driveway outside Hilary Jones’ Kent home. They blasted unpleasant messages through loudspeakers.’
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Army! Lol! I think that there are eight of them complete with blurred out placards!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10054055/Dr-Hilary-Jones-country-home-targeted-vicious-anti-vaxxers.html
But vicious placards!
Kill them all! Whatever happened to the polite recognition of the separation of private and public lives? A protocol that even the Mafia respects.
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‘We’ve told too many people to bugger off and join the Tories.’
Good morning all.
Looks like a dull start, dry at the moment, but with a full overcast and 5°C on the thermometer.
I have to be out by 09:00 this morning, a walk into Cromford to catch the Transpeak bus to Bakewell for a retinopathy checkup.
Hope all goes well.
Transpeak? It this some reference to the new terminology e.g. transman, transwoman etc.?
The Derby – Buxton rump of what started as a Nottingham – Manchester bus service.
First cut back to Derby – Manchester and now even shorter.
Well this makes a lovely start from Radio 3:-
Thomas Arne The Morning
Singer: Emma Kirkby. Ensemble: The Parley of Instruments. Conductor: Roy Goodman.
Can’t find Emma’s version on YouTube but this one is nearly as good:-
https://youtu.be/jb5WvIzC_eA
Looks like the ‘Slammer bastards got him the 3rd time:-
https://twitter.com/nigella_i5e/status/1444888223709335554
Talk about stating the obvious:-
Regarding David Taylor.
Your preferred method of policing is ‘Broken Window Theory’.
It was successfully used in New York under Mayor Guilliani. It became controversial as under ‘stop and frisk’ (stop and search) it became obvious who the criminals were. Black people. Mostly men. Mostly young men.
This caused outrage among the Left and in particular the ‘Do gooders’ and was abandoned.
Take a look at New York and London today. Both run by Leftist ideologues.
The answer is staring the us all in the face but the authorities are slope shouldered and afraid it will damage their careers.
These people, including the Mayor of London and Cressida Dick are not fit to run anything and should be fired.
Until they are we will continue turning once fine cities into cesspits.
Whatever happened to ‘Zero Tolerance’ as introduced into Northumbria Police by a man whose name I forget except to say that he was quite quickly ousted as his methods were proving successful?
339625+ up ticks,
Morning Each,
Monday 4 October: Police must focus on minor crimes if they are to catch major criminals
If I remember correctly they did not come across as a success in fighting
crime in minors appertaining to rotherham, far from it.
I am of the belief that some kids were turned away without even a crime number to carry into a mentally ruined future after approaching the police.
Seen through the eyes of a lab/lib/con supporter in three monkey mode
it seems like half a job done is better than none.
A crime is a crime is a crime, the police in many respects currently are guardians of political gypsies,tramps & thieves given powers, carte blanche time after time by an electorate addicted to a party name.
‘Morning, Peeps
SIR – If the buck doesn’t stop with Dame Cressida Dick, who exactly does it stop with?
Andrew Wildblood
Crantock, Cornwall
Good question. Here’s another – with a track record like hers, just what does she have to do to to get herself sacked? Or are we witnessing the collapse of yet another public service where everyone remains in post, like the NHS, the DVLA…?
Perhaps she could arrange for an innocent passer by to be killed…
Then lie about it to justify their actions. Anyone would think it was a criminal organisation.
Good morning your worship.
Was “the Sweeney” a documentary, or a whitewash? Did all Met officers have second incomes from the various bad guys and gangs?
How would i know? I’m a law abiding citizen, unlike half of the Met.
She tried that but all she got was promotion.
‘Morning Bill.
I doubt if this chap would stop for this nasty woman and he certainly would not allow any of her nonsense to muddle his horns with a dilemma.
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Good Moaning.
I can feel my inner Mme Defarge stirring.
“There is no suggestion of any wrongdoing by the Blairs……” Well, that gruesome twosome move in ‘legal circles’, so the DT would say that, wouldn’t it?
“Pandora papers: Tony and Cherie Blair saved £312,000 stamp duty by buying property via offshore firm”
Get yer knitting out! Morning Anne.
Of course it’s legal; they made it legal.
I believe they were even more cunning, they bought the offshore firm that owned the property.
‘Morning Annie. The Bliars have pointed out, presumably in a feeble attempt to justify their purchase(s) that capital gains tax will apply when the place is sold. However, that would surely have been the case anyway when selling a house that is not the primary residence?
I hear that that pair of criminals’ latest wheeze, is to avoid a hefty stamp duty bill ( around £230,000 if memory serves) by buying using offshore account(s).
Ah, thank you, Anne, for the usual, much higher figure.
Colonial clutches
SIR – While repairing the hydraulic clutch mechanism on my old Land Rover, I had to replace the slave and master cylinders. Will I still be permitted to change gear?
Ian Henderson
Harpenden, Hertfordshire
Best keep that quiet, Ian Henderson!
It depends on what type of trans he has*
*Yes, I know it’s a manual, but don’t spoil a good pun with the facts.
Why are all the photos in Haynes manuals so dark that you cannot distinguish a bobbin from a thingmy?
It’s the crap paper they’re printed on
Making misogyny a hate crime won’t make women safer. Spiked 4 October 2021.
Making misogyny a hate crime is extremely unlikely to prevent one murder or one rape. It seems to have been forgotten that not only murder and rape, but also indecent exposure, stalking, voyeurism, sexual assault and domestic abuse, are already criminal offences. None of these existing laws stopped Couzens committing his vile attack on Sarah Everard. There is nothing to suggest additional laws would have been any further deterrent.
Once upon a time there was a society and culture that mitigated against the ill treatment of women, in fact it conceded far greater protection than that given to men! Males could transgress its boundaries but it would in large part make them Social Outcasts even among the Lower Classes. It was killed off by the advent of Feminism since only the unequal need protection. Of course feminism itself is inadequate to the task so it turned to the Law. The problem is that the Law is retro-active, something first has to happen before anything can be done. Unwritten Law on the other hand is preventive. The attempt at making Misogyny a crime is to encapsulate this in Law. It will fail!
https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/10/04/making-misogyny-a-hate-crime-wont-make-women-safer/
Hate crimes never killed anyone.
Sticks and stones will hurt my bones – as we used to say in primary school.
How many have they driven to suicide?
Headless chickens. I’m surprised they haven’t formed a committee.
Good morning, Minty.
What would be the head of that committee?
Mrs Murrell. Scotland is on the point of rushing through a misogyny law. I think that these people believe in magic. That laws are spells to stop whatever they are about. What is missing is implementation of existing laws. Our Breach of the Peace law was devised by our clever ancestors to cover every low level nuisance that might upset the lieges.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/sarah-everard-scottish-misogyny-law-would-send-a-strong-signal-that-abuse-is-unacceptable-says-justice-minister-3405723
That ghastly woman goes too far in thinking that she is Queen of Scotland.
Time to repeal any act that allowed her to use any devolution to set up and run her Rotten, Wee Pretendy Parliament.
Hamlet: Act 1 Scene 4.
Marcellus: Let’s follow. ‘Tis not fit thus to obey him.
Horatio: Have after! To what issue will this come?
Marcellus: Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
Horatio: Heaven will direct it.
Marcellus: Nay, let’s follow him.
Shirley, if being a Misogynist is a crime, so must be being a Feminist
The answer is to apply the laws you have rather than make new ones – but the more new laws there are the happier the lawyers will be.
Surely we have enough laws to deal effectively with both illegal immigrants and those who block the public highway?
‘Morning, Minty, preventative law – and also pro-active – used to be achieved by the visible presence of the bobby on the beat. That same approachable copper, you could ask for directions or the time. He was very visible on our streets and even in small villages, where there was invariably a Police House.
Today they are not even on a bike (a la Roger Whitaker – England Swings) but in fast, muli-coloured car posing for the TV camera in series like Police Interceptors.
Screaming around, far too fast to observe the actual crimes being committed openly in the streets by, for example, muggers and fly-tippers.
“England Swings” was by Roger Miller.
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Thank you, Peddy, I knew it was a Rogerer of some sort.
Servus!
Morning all.
All these “hate” crimes have only muddied the waters as fa4 as crime is concerned. It was a big mistake to even start along that road. Whether someone a white person murders is black or vice versus should not come into it. Murder is murder. These laws have made prosecuting and sentencing an absolute minefield (if they ever get to court in the first place of course). The law used to be very clear. No longer.
It’s absurd. How do you make an attitude of mind a “hate crime”. It doesn’t automatically follow that because you are a misogynist you will attack women. Strikes me as another attempt at thought control. And lets be honest, a lot of misogyny, so called, is the result of the misandry of feminism. So is hatred of men, which is far more overt and practically institutionalized to be made a hate crime too? Or is it to keep to the double standard of female privilege and thus increase misogyny because there is no doubt that now a days, women are far more privileged than men. For proof, all I have to do is cite divorce laws and the custody of children which is overwhelmingly tipped toward women and disadvantages both men and children. I mentioned a little while ago that I worked with some high school boys one year, not a single one respected women and not a single one intended to get marry or have children. Feminism had taught them to have contempt and mistrust of women.
When Christianity was common, respect for women was a spin off of the respect given to the Mother of Christ, the BVM. As that culture was replaced by the “multi-culti” nonsense, heavily laced with misogynistic islam, it’s no surprise that women’s status in society has diminished.
Build Back Better?
{scornful tone of voice}
Ja Ja!
https://twitter.com/BeardedBob7282/status/1444918847916630017
That’s why they’re all spouting his slogan.
And don’t forget the horse he rode in on.
…and continues to ride, in order to breed a few more little Green Schwabists.
I actually thought he said: “Build back bitter”, alluding to the beer. But that’s what his whacko policies are doing to the English people, making them bitter.
There are idiots everywhere. We had some rain over the weekend, floods everywhere.
A family thought it was a good idea to take their little Toyota through the flooded underpass below – why in the name of all that’s wonderful, would anyone think that is a good idea? I’d not go there with Firstborn’s Landy, and that has raised suspension and is fitted for wading. “It’ll be all right, darling, the water only comes halfway up the ducks!”
When the fire brigade arrived, both adults and both children were still sitting in the car. Brigade got the kids out, and left the adults still in the car whilst fitting a wire & pulling the car out.
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There’s a ford alongside a bridge over the river that I visited frequently. Drivers, particularly of 4x4s, regularly thought ploughing through the water rather than using the bridge was fun despite kids paddling there. I saw several stranded vehicles over the years. Served the drivers right.
The only time I got involved was for a crying woman with crying kids, where, fortunately for her, the coil packs were soaked rather than the engine having ingested water (the air filter was dry), and I got her underway again in half an hour. All the rest had to be towed away.
Lucky for you the woman wasn’t a feminist.
Same mentality that people have who drive across fords when a river is in spate. I’ve driven along rivers on a 4×4 course and it’s good fun.
I had a 4×4 for a short time and took the children for drives that included fording small burns. I always stop and check. I don’t drive in unless I feel confident that I could wade across and keep my knees dry, approximately the same level as the wheel hubs. Same applies to flooded roads. If in doubt I either turn back or wait until someone comes the other way without a problem. Horace “Cowardy-Custard” Pendleton they call me.
Horace the Sensible more like.
Hardly “cowardly”, let some other person try it and end up the fool. Discretion is the better part of valour and all that!
As soon as the water touches the sills, it gives lift to the car and you strat to lose traction – and sideways grip, increasing the likelihood of being swept away.
“Next stop, kiddies, the bottom of the North Sea”
Having watched a video of a Ready Mix concrete mixer lorry being swept down stream in a drain in California with the water just 18″ high I am extremely wary of flooded roads
So that’s why you like barging along.
Unlike cars the barge, despite weighing 14 tons, is designed to float!
Wow, who knew?
};-))
I once watched a bus swept away in Queensland as the passengers jumped out of the rear safety door!
Strange – it only came half way up the ducks
My sat.nav directed me through a flooded ford and before I knew it I was in it. Luckily we got through without any problems but I am now very much more wary.
There’s the problem, a Toyota, now if it had been a Ford…
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Ford is an AcronymFix or repair Daily
Found On Road, Dead.
‘…the water only comes halfway up the ducks!’ , made me laugh. It’s an accurate description of some folks intelligence…or lack of.
Duckies in the Tudor sense?
Good morning, all. Rain in the night. Now blue sky and sunshine. Chilly, though.
In the longer term it appears you can’t
buckEuro the market:In Italy “Household electricity bills will rise by 29.8% for the typical family and gas bills will go up by 14.4%, Italy’s energy regulatory authority Arera confirmed in a press release last week. The new national tariffs came into effect on Friday, the start of the fourth quarter of 2021. The increase comes amid surging energy costs across Europe, and beyond”.
Morning Stephen. They are coming for us all!
That sounds a tad orgiastic to me Minty!
A sunny day in Surrey.
The recent letters regarding squeezing toothpaste when you only have one hand reminds me of the guy who had an enormous willie, when asked how it came to be that big he replied “My mother only had one arm and when I was a baby it was the only way she could lift me out of the bath”
Yo Alec
I was keeping that quiet
What it gets hard to discern extreme satire from real life, you know real life has gone too far:-
https://youtu.be/VCS950SM5w0
Oh Dear! I hope that they are not our last line of defence… oh, what am I saying… what happened to boys being boys, and men being men?
Oops, just read Datz comment. They fooled me – but I hadn’t yet had any coffee..
How those guys kept a straight face amazes me, they started off being almost believable as a pair of woke numpties and just kept laying on more outrageous nonsense, it did bring tears to my eyes but only of laughter. I don’t doubt there will be people that take this at face value and that amuses me almost as much as the podcast.
339625+up ticks,
Come on frostie get your arris in gear,
Lord Frost threat to EU over Northern Ireland Protocol solution
Minister warns that Britain ‘can’t wait forever’ as he puts Brussels on notice that he is ready to trigger Article 16
Article 16 states that “if the application of this Protocol leads to serious economic, societal or environmental difficulties that are liable to persist, or to diversion of trade, the Union or the United Kingdom may unilaterally take appropriate safeguard measures”
The government should do it now .
No warning needed. There have been enough threats and counterthreats to fill a library. Precious little action.
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Morning Cs,
I do agree, what they wilfully neglected to do long ago.
I give you fair warning, I’m currently reduced to scraping the bottom of the barrel in the ‘Bumper Joke Book‘:
Larry Is In The Hospital…
Who in the hell is Larry?
Well Larry is the guy who gets home late one night and Linda, his wife, says “Where the hell have you been?”
Larry replies “I was out getting a tattoo!”
“A tattoo”? She frowned. “What kind of tattoo did you get?”
“I got a Fifty Pound note on my privates” he said proudly.
“What the hell were you thinking”? She said, shaking her head in disgust. “Why on earth would a Chartered Accountant get a Fifty Pound note tattooed on his privates?”
“Well, One, I like to watch my money grow.
Two, once in a while I like to play with my money.
Three, I like how money feels in my hand.
And, lastly, instead of you going out shopping, you can stay right here at home and blow fifty quid anytime you want.”
Now that is very funny . Good morning NTN
I have heard that one before , and if there were other nurses present including me , we could say we had SEEN something like that
A very poorly sailor in the year dot who was being nursed in an RN surgical ward , needed daily bedbaths and real nursing care, such as being turned frequently so that he didn’t recieve bedsores from lying in the same position for too long . Even when a male patient is poorly , emabarassing things like erections happen .
He had a £ sign tattooed on his nether regions , he was proud of it , and when asked why he had had such a painful procedure he said it was so that he could watch his money grow !
Yo T_B
As I said to F_A:
I was keeping that quiet
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Smothering a real laugh out loud here , good ribald humour never dies .
..
Yo NTN
Try these
https://www.google.com/search?q=risque+jokes+for+seniors&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b
339625+ up ticks,
Dick of the yard stated,
Responding to the development, Dame Cressida Dick, the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, who has been under pressure following the jailing of Couzens for the kidnap, rape and murder of Sarah Everard, expressed her concern.
She said: “I am deeply concerned to hear the news today that an officer from the Met’s Parliamentary and Diplomatic Protection Command has been arrested and now charged with this serious offence. I fully recognise the public will be very concerned too.
“Criminal proceedings must now take their course so I am unable to comment any further at this stage.”
That’s young. Hope there’s no scandal about to make his kids even more upset.
Edit; Oops, this was meant as a reply to Belle’s post 1 above.
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Morning M,
The need to know basis would have been the way to go initially with members of the public included, to ally any talk of a cover up.
General who led the Royal Marines is found dead at home aged 54 after ‘taking his own life’ just six months after standing down from the role
Major General Matthew Holmes CBE served in all the UK’s recent conflicts
He served as Commandant General Royal Marines from 2019 until April this year
Won the Distinguished Service Order, for leadership in Afghanistan in 2007
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The Ministry of Defence confirmed that the circumstances of his death were being investigated – but they are not thought to have been suspicious. However, it is understood that he took his own life, the Telegraph reported.
Major Holmes was married to his solicitor wife Lea and they had two young children and lived in Hampshire. In April, he was a pallbearer at Prince Philip’s funeral during the procession to the St George’s Chapel steps.
Last year, he welcomed Prince Harry, the former Captain General of the Royal Marines, and Meghan Markle to the Royal Albert Hall in London for the Mountbatten Festival of Music in March 2020.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10055807/Tributes-paid-former-head-Royal-Marines-takes-life-aged-54.html
Oh, man. That’s bad. Poor man.
Pity they couldn’t give him the title “General” all through the article.
Oh, man. That’s bad. Poor man.
Pity they couldn’t give him the title “General” all through the article.
Harry Yorke DT:
Lord Frost threat to EU over Northern Ireland Protocol solution
Minister warns that Britain ‘can’t wait forever’ as he puts Brussels on notice that he is ready to trigger Article 16
Brussels has repeatedly indicated it will not agree to large swathes of the command paper, with Maros Sefcovic, Lord Frost’s EU counterpart, expected to set out a series of less radical solutions in the coming days. Lord Frost will on Monday issue a threat to the EU that the UK is prepared to trigger Article 16 unless the bloc agrees to replace the controversial Northern Ireland Protocol.
I am sure that Lord Frost was all set to stand firm on both fishing and the NI Protocol until the last day of the ‘deal’ negotiations when Michael Gove suddenly arrived in Brussels and Britain capitulated.
Whatever Lord Frost threatens will probably come to nothing as Gove and Johnson will never agree to it.
Anyone disagree?
Don’t exactly disagree but think in terms of, hope springs eternal, and that it will actually happen. I really don’t understand how it is that we are a sovereign country and we still kowtow to the EU. Perhaps Boris and the unctuous Gove can be distracted by another fake climate crisis while Frost gets on with it.
Frost? That caused by climate change??
I’ll crawl back into my igloo.
We are, apparently, implementing EU rules about speed limiters in cars soon. Why? We’re a sovereign country (allegedly), so why conform to EU regulations?
Exactly Conway and Good Morning! Watched Bicentennial Man, by the way. Enjoyed it a great deal, much of it I found quite moving as I assume you did too. But it was about a robot who wanted to be human and the solution was not one I would indorse. After all I’m interested in how human beings are going to transform into god knows what. I hesitate to say machines because I have no doubt there are technologies coming down the pipe that we are barely aware of that will not be mechanical. For example, I assume you know we are well on the way to constructing organic computers? So I’m interested in the possibility of immortality, so to speak, but only with a kill switch so choice is still there if one so wishes to terminate. All the same, excellent movie, so thank you for recommending it. I will suggest to others they watch it too.
Glad you enjoyed it. Sorry I was out by a good few years with the title 🙂
What did Frost actually achieve as regards our EU departure? I cannot think of anything that has worked out well. (When Frost was head of the Scotch Whisky Association he moved them from their wonderful building in Atholl Crescent to the most expensive rented offices in Scotland.)
My wife found out that our dog (a Schnauzer) could hardly hear, so she took it to the veterinarian.
The vet found that the problem was hair in the dog’s ears. He cleaned both ears, and the dog could then hear fine.
The vet then proceeded to tell her that, if she wanted to keep this from recurring, she should go to the chemist and get some “Immac” hair
remover and rub it in the dog’s ears once a month. So she went to the chemist and bought some “Immac” hair remover.
At the checkout counter, the pharmacist told her, “Now , If you’re going to use this under your arms,
don’t use deodorant for a few days.
” The wife said, “I’m not using it under my arms.”
The pharmacist said, “Well, If you’re using it on your legs, use E45 Cream for a couple of days.”
My wife replied, “I’m not using it on my legs either. And If you must know, I’m using it on my Schnauzer.”
The pharmacist said, “Well then”; Stay off your bike for about a week !!
The oldies (like us OLT) are still the best – as I’ve found out, many times.
https://twitter.com/truthbeforepc/status/1444942403824128004?s=20
They want to annoy the voters.
…and they are succeeding, J, without the Conference and/or its venue.
Blackpool and Bournemouth full up with gimmegrants?
Perhaps they should hold the “conference” in Albania….
Well, well. My e-mail to David Davis has provoked a sarcastic reply – just received:
“Dear Mr Thomas
Thank you for your email and for your kind words.
Yours sincerely
David Davis
Rt Hon David Davis MP”
Try using unkind words next time.
Well, I was fairly forthright!
Morning Bill. I’m intrigued. Obviously missed your missive. Any chance you could repost.
Dear Mr Davis
I am not a constituent of yours. I expect
that you will discard my e-mail.
I have been a Conservative voter most of
my life. I voted Tory in 2019.
I read your article in today’s Daily Telegraph.
While I agree with what you say, my object
in writing to you is to say that unless the
present government abandons its ludicrous
policies immediately, none of the life-long
Conservative supporters I know will ever
vote Tory again.
It is time that someone created the Real
Conservative Party – with a platform based
on common-sense and on what true
Conservatives want.
Without that – your party is doomed.
Good morning Bill.
I am sure that your MR will be familiar with Philip Larkin’s poem Talking In Bed which ends with the lines:
“It becomes still more difficult to find
Words at once true and kind,
Or not untrue and not unkind.”
Last week I emailed Steve Baker MP and included a link to a very interesting interview of Dr Geert Vanden Bossche, a leading vaccine designer and Dr Robert Malone the inventor of the mRNA vaccine process. No reply as of today.
Baker has declared his opposition to the “vaccine passport” idea and in the interview Dr Vanden Bossche explains how mass inoculation is the very worst thing to do during a pandemic and that isolating the fit and heathy non-vaccinated is just as dangerous.
Anyone interested in the interview between these pre-eminent people in their fields can link to:
Covid Giants – Drs Vanden Bossche and Robert Malone
He won’t reply. None of the bastards give a flying flick about what you and I and millions of others think.
He did send a nice reply to me during the Brexit troubles. As I have no faith in my MP I thought I may as well try Baker. While I agree with your assessment of those supposed to have our best interests at heart, it costs nothing to email and it may make the “researcher” who reads incoming mail think a bit.
Quite. That was why I wasted a virtual stamp mailing Davis.
I expect he has a standing instruction to staff to send a civil reply to those they regard as nutters!
At least he had the courtesy to reply…
It is slightly better than a reply used by one MP (long before the internet) when he received a vitriolic letter he would reply:
Dear Mr Thomas,
I am writing to you to let you know that some lunatic is impersonating you writing all sorts of ridiculous things and I thought you should be made aware.
Yours….
One of the best eff off letters I have seen was from Quentin Hogg when Lord Chancellor. Some nutcase had a vendetta against the whole legal system. In the early 1990s, I was called in by the Law Society to investigate his case. I visited the chap’s house (in the Fens – say no more..!!) One room was completely full of files. One could barely move. I asked the chap when his problem sort of started. “Well,” he replied, “When I wrote to Mr Churchill when he was Prime Minister…” and there was a letter from No 10 way back. It went on and on – complaints about solicitors, barristers, judges.
Anyway, his last effort was to the said Hogg. His reply: “Kindly do not trouble yourself to write to me again.”
Chap said – “What do I do now?”
The original complaint, by the way, involved three inches of land – which chap said his neighbour had “stolen” by moving his fencing post.
https://twitter.com/OhBrokenBritain/status/1444943425225248770
Hallo Belle! Do you think that will really happen? I notice there is no date for implementing this policy.
There never is a date for any of Priti Awful’s “promises”.
She took office 2½ years ago and “promised” to stop the illegal cross-Channel trade immediately.
65,000 illegal, England-hating people later…..
Albania, really? Isn’t Albania predominately moslem?
If so, Korky, the majority of the illegal gimmegrunts will feel right at home amid other bum wavers.
Ha! Ha! Ha!
Yeah, right.
Just like the promise to stop illegal immigration actually meant to send Border Farce and RNLI to France to help them over.
Good morning, everyone.
Good morning. Sunny. No wait a minute, raining. Erm…sunny again.
Sunny here in Mid-Suffolk, Philip, for now.
339625+ up ticks,
Dt,
Three Labour MPs Could Defect to Conservative Party: Report
Seeing as they are a mass uncontrolled immigration coalition what, may one ask difference will it make to the average milch cow, and in name only
party supporting fools.
They are probably fearful for their seats (in Parliament I mean) so they are pulling on their asbestos underwear, Ogga.
339625+ up ticks,
Morning NtN,
Asbestos was never the answer for rope burn, come the reckoning, when sanity returns to the herd.
…Piano-wire cuts better than rope, Ogga.
Proof, if any were needed, that the Conservatives are Socialists in all but name.
339625+ up ticks,
Morning Jr,
The toxic trio are all joined at their political heads by the ongoing mass uncontrolled immigration their supporter / voters are all
condoning the MUI policy that is not far off now to bringing down these Isles.
339625+ up ticks,
Dt,
Live Conservative Party conference latest news: Rishi Sunak opens door to council tax rise to pay for social care
There must come a time shortly when ALL council tax payers will realise it is more acceptable to take the ALL found social care option in a council run home, than to continue to fork out more & more tax.
Good morning to all! Just watched a couple of short videos over on the Daily Mail of commuters dragging the morons of Insulate Britain off the roads in London today. No police to be seen. Pity the commuters didn’t put the boot in too. I suspect a little bovver around the rips or a stomp on the leg would deter the evil buggers.
Sarah’s killer is to keep part of his police pension. They just don’t get it do they?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10056287/Killer-cop-Wayne-Couzens-police-pension-human-rights.html
He has paid into the pension fund
Do the rules stipulate ‘good behaviour’ as a requirement to receive the money, if so at what level of naughtiness does it stop
Hand up skirt?
It should be redirected to his family. They didn’t commit his crimes.
I doubt they would want it. They should however sue the Met.
Perhaps he’s due the return of his contributions but these should be seized and us for his upkeep in prison. Isn’t this what happens when some elderly people go into care homes.
Yes. If they have more than a grand or so in assets, they have to pay until under that threshold. And the cost is fierce.
Started the process of selling Mother’s house for that specific purpose.
Her family should sue him for the rest. At the moment they would get about £10,000 from the Criminal Compensation Board.
The killer of Sarah has got me just a bit puzzled, for a policeman he was very stupid about the crime he committed, arresting said women out in the open with cameras on him, he bought the materials he intended to use in the crime and to dispose of the body in shops where cameras were on him, for someone trained in detecting crime he left an awful lot of clues.
Perhaps he just wasn’t very bright.
Had he been bright, he would not have joined the perlice.
Grizzly blames falling level of intelligence in the police force on graduate entry. He may well be right – but Couzens was certainly not university educated.
But as Bill will be happy to remind us many intelligent professional people did not go to university and many exceptionally stupid people did.
It’s also puzzling that the Muslim who killed a primary school teacher in London recently has been completely ignored.
Mustn’t prejudice his trial…(sarc)
That didn’t appear to affect Couzens’ trial, or the policeman from Hemel Hempsted accused of rape.
Kit Malthouse, the policing minister, suggests that anyone in doubt over a police officer’s conduct ,then they should “FLAG DOWN A BUS” . . .!
If you’ve just missed the three buses that all came along at the same time you may have over an hour to wait.
These people do not live in the real world. Gove was urging us all to get white goods repaired rather than buying new ones. Often the repair costs considerably more than buying a new one with a guarantee. For example the seal on our deep freezer’s door is a bit leaky. It is impossible to buy a new seal but you can order a new door which, if you have it professionally fitted, will indeed cost more than a new freezer
Talking of freezers Gove is also keen to ban wood burning stoves and I believe he is trying to persuade people not to use electric heaters either.
‘Morning All
Nicked because it saved me so much typing
“Odd that the resignation of the premier of NSW as an official investigation
announced into her affairs ( both financial and in the bedroom) receives
little or zero attention from the MSM as does the resignation of the
deputy under the guise of “someone shouted racist comments at me”.
However, both these two have not only stood down from their official
positions in their Parliament but overnight also resigned from
Parliament.
These two between them devised and implemented some of
the most draconian covid restrictions on the planet and ordered , aided
and abetted the police thuggery to enforce them. They are responsible
for people losing their businesses , jobs, way of life , their homes and
their sanity. One is being investigated for links to pharmaceuticals
and the other has gone under a cloud which will hopefully become
apparent.
Yet, no mention on the BBC , on the breakfast sofas and
almost no mention elsewhere to what should be an absolute massive story,
a story which affects all of us given the pharmaceutical link and
coercion, bribery and outright corruption and criminality at the highest
levels?
Your daily reminder, the MSM is the enemy”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-04/nsw-deputy-premier-john-barilaro-resigns/100511638
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This was why Trump was hated by the multi-national New World Orderers – there is an alternative to vaccines when proper treatment and existing medicines can be used. The article about successful treatment in India which was posted here a couple of days ago is worth reading.
The trouble with this is that Big Pharma want their money and will do everything possible to sell their vaccines.
How has the public accepted that everybody should be hounded into having the vaccine(s) :
i) If the vaccine does not stop you getting the disease;
ii) If the vaccine does not stop you passing it on,
iii) If the vaccine often leads to dire consequences including death
iv) And if the vaccine may, but only may, stop you getting it as badly as if you had not had the vaccine.
Finally something that actually cheered me up!!!
https://twitter.com/ArchRose90/status/1444942347242987521
At last – the people start to rise up.
Thanks for reposting your email to David Davis. For some reason my iPad won’t go back to your comment so I found it via your profile. Good letter with which I heartily concur. They are no more Conservative in their policies than the worms in the garden. They are all socialists now.
It would be grist to the mill if that letter – with appropriate individual changes – was sent to him by other people. Just so he knows that it is not just a lone Norfolk nutter.
A bit harsh on garden worms that help make garden soil fertile.
What took them so long…
A foolish (and mistaken) belief that the perlice would actually do their job, for once
We all know if the protestors sued the commuters, the commuters would go to jail. After all, Insulate Britain are upper middle class wasters and therefore to be protected from savages.
A pedant writes. You are confusing suing (a civil case claiming damages) with prosecution – where, on conviction, you might go to gaol.
You are on the right lines, though. If the plod could have bothered to turn up in their rainbow cars, they would have gone for the commuters and NOT the terrorist squatters.
Could they not be charged with assault?
That is what I was trying to suggest.
No. They were just shifting some discarded clothing and other belongings the side of the road. That the former were occupied by human beings is mere coincidence.
Were they not just protecting the protesters from being run over?
Well done! If they removed the demonstrators shoes and socks and stripped them to their underwear, it might deter them from returning.
….and their phones…..!
Yes, strip them down and throw their wallets, complete with credit cards, far, far away.
In fact give them to any passing ‘still’.
What’s a still? Think about it.
Should have dumped the bastards in the Thames.
Oops. Another incident of notreadundery.
Snap!
Excellent.
Perhaps every motorist should carry a quantity of super glue. Take them to a suitable lamppost, put their arms around it and glue their hands together and leave them there.
I think these motorists showed a degree of restraint. Restraint that’ll start evaporating if these spoiled idiots carry on.
Should have pitched them in the river.
A response:-
https://twitter.com/BeardedBob7282/status/1445114721754025985
Is it still OK to be an Englishman…?
In left-wing circles it is always felt that there is something slightly disgraceful in being an Englishman and that it is a duty to snigger at every English institution, from horse racing to suet puddings. It is a strange fact, but it is unquestionably true that almost any English intellectual would feel more ashamed of standing to attention during ‘God save the King’ than of stealing from a poor box. – George Orwell
That applies, it would seem, to nearly all members of the Conservative Party but does not apply to real Conservatives.
You would think that a country that has existed since 927 and contributed almost everything that makes the modern world what it is, would be something to be proud of, wouldn’t you? I wonder if this contempt actually originates in the mind set of the Normans, the ruling class who clearly had contempt for the native English and that morphed into the hatred of England that seems to be a characteristic of the so called elite in this country. If that isn’t the answer, then where does it come from? Because the attitude certainly precedes the blight of Marxism, the favoured vehicle for vindictive attitudes in modern Britain.
” to be born an Englishman was to win the lottery of life…”
Alas no more.
No tickets on sale any more.
They give them away in Dover now.
Actually having lived for most of my life in the so called “greatest country on earth that has ever been” the USA. I rate England above America so to be born an Englishman, in my opinion, is still to win the lottery of life.
I don’t get angry any more …I just feel utter despair.
Never Give In Winston Churchill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydi_KGXA9lk
We feel your despair. (I think Lacoste would stroke it if he could….)
Yep , Plum , I become pink cheeked and rather irritated when I see those who are so anti us , speaking our language and aspiring to positions of authority, but who are a different colour .. and then I still think we are the greatest country in the world because virtually everyone , even out in the bush and jungle, speaks English and knows who the Queen is .. and Manchester United !!!!
Nowadays to be born an Englishman is to live in hope of winning the Lottery!
British by Birth
English by Grace of God
https://youtu.be/rRgvJPSOTTM
It seems, according to David Starkey, that pretty well all modernity and the resulting prosperity, originated in the UK.
Well worth watching – I checked it out a couple of days ago, Paul, and agreed with the whole kit and caboodle.
I suspect I stole it from you, Tom.
Sorry.
:-((
No apologies necessary, Paul, it needs the widest audience possible, especially since, for you, the little thunderbug is just next door!.
From “The Mikado” 1885.
Ko-Ko’s patter song “I’ve got a little list”;
“Then the idiot who praises, with enthusiastic tone
All centuries but this, and every country but his own;”
#CovidClownWorld
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https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ec82be972741049007573f5a23a80f41530b27c1fa7b003e09bab027334cb7b9.jpg
Risky Laff
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cbd4d9bf827e3e9fd6d93a4e381c5be232a47b2820ef6405f7b06107e111ac0a.jpg
She looks a bit of a handful.
A handful?
Is she on your bucket list Bill? :-))
Would have been once…{:¬((
She ought to dip her headlights
Looks as if she might well dip them in her soup if she doesn’t sit up straight when dining.
:¬(
She’d never hit her chin if she tripped over.
With luck she likes gazpacho.
Not many of them in a pound!
https://twitter.com/Kateandtheboys/status/1444781369729720321?s=20
And to think that in most stories it’s the bad guys who wear the masks.
Even when they are the good guys they tend to be vigilantes.
The local Gun Shop, all window bars and security door, has a sign in the window –
“No Mask – No Entry” !
Mummy. What platform does the train for Auschwitz leave from?
Are there any conspiracy theories remaining yet to come true?
Went into Fakenham earlier. Chap on ride-on cutting the public grass. Sunny day. Open air. Wore a mask. I could understand wearing goggles…..but a mask?
I’ve seen the hedge trimmers wearing a mask, gogs and ear defenders. I assume if you’ve leaf litter flying about it helps.
Best I saw was a chap in France with a vicious industrial-size strimmer – hard hat, ear defenders, goggles, muzzle, gloves – and shorts and sandals….
339625+ up ticks,
Afternoon LD,
No surprise there we are of an electoral that still support & vote for parties that have covered up for 16 plus years
Mass uncontrolled paedophilia, ongoing, RE the Jay report.
Peoples will vote still for one of the governance parties on account the abuse happened to the kid next door and not …….
Evil to do this to children.
Brainwashing – all part of Global Common Purpose.
Nursery Schools have been damaging children for decades. They are run by ignorant and immature money grubbing women.
There was a TV programme a few years back showing staff calling a child a Minger and demanding said child should “say taa” in order to receive a biscuit. The father removed his child because the little boy kept repeating “say taa” at home.
A mask doesn’t keep you safe. It keeps other people safe from you.
Dear life, the poor kid in the bottom left looks terrified. Junior comes belting out of his classroom and drags me in to show me what he’s done that day.
Erm, a mask does not keep anyone safe. If you can breathe through it ,the viruses go in and out.
Tory Party Conference,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGUeRbHWNZ4
I thought Ian Botham spent his time at the HoL these days.
Batshit Crazy…..
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/89f19edf81d6dfea0f1762ced90e6b7bbf8bdf305ee5c08e22854616d18f7cbe.png
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Where is all this greenery coming from?
A stagnant pond.
University of Warwick, Art History and Theatre Studies
The good news is that Bernard Cornwell has brought Sharpe back.
I wonder whether it will be a woke version.
Isn’t the green wire supposed to be the earth connection? It would be dangerous to have all of the electricity travelling along the green wire.
With apologies apparently the UK has changed wiring standards since we left.
Green AND yellow now – the yellow is to identify the cowardice of the greenies.
All the UK’s electricity to be green by 2035.
Unemployment to be 80%, a three day week imposed, massive shortages, poverty and chaos.
They won’t report that though, will they?
Good morning all.
Sun & cloud in patches.
I see the Red holiday lists are being relaxed ..
Lots of places are being opened up …
I don’t think I could go through the palavar of long checkins and crowded aircraft .. any way just enjoy the song !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAN-LvFOGus
Just another lovely one to listen to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teBV0EoJJY8
If aliens were observing the Earth I think they would put us (and Mars of course) on the ‘Red Planet’ list.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/772f107f6a3edd68926971639799e06fc24f0c6a8a8663beebd4c4fe4cb6518d.gif
One of the two tunes I asked the JY Prog to play on my last day there in 2002!
And Karen was a proper size, when she recorded that.
Such a beautiful song Bill, and one of my favourites
What was the other song you chose for your last JY Prog day.
There is a keen chilly wind blowing here , and we have had several heavy rainy squalls .
I must do some shopping soon , dog food (sack of ) and other bits and pieces .
There is a shortage of diesel again . There were still loads of visitors / day trippers to the coast, I guess they must have topped up their cars , £30 max.. then the pump cuts out .
I (and many) have said it before, the only way to deter is with a £30 Minimum!
“Big Man” by the Four Preps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXd8c1BLpRQ
I had thought of Bobbie Gentry’s “Ode to Billy Joe” but thought it a bit downbeat!
https://www.mixcloud.com/noeltyrrel/jimmy-young-and-his-legals-september-october-2000-bbc-radio-2/
Thank you, Our Susan. Pity about the “other one”…!!
Brought back memories though. Because the prog was live, I have only heard a handful of short snippets during the whole 27 years.
PS – You have given the MR a great treat!
Is it just my imagination or did people sing better in those days? I can’t stand these awful non-tunes with achingly woke lyrics that seem to have taken over the charts now.
Was having a rant to my daughters about this, and I pointed out that music was rather good until about 2012, and now it’s all whiny whiny (put on voice) “Yoooo left me…Ah’m just not good enough for yoooo” kind of stuff.
My daughters simultaneously said “That’s so TikTokable!”
Lyrics and music were more memorable, and songs were written so beautifully that they did pull on the heart strings .
I find it so difficult to imagine how people like Ed Sheeran and that type have made their multi millions from utter dribble.
( I must be really old now, despite still imagining I am still 26 )
An article to make you shudder.
https://www.takimag.com/article/the-seeds-of-moderate-defeat/
https://twitter.com/Svetlana1svetla/status/1444988449484951552
That way madness lies….
Is it because the ones with dementia forget their flu jab appointments?
https://twitter.com/True_Belle/status/1444989550082789380
‘Afternoon, Maggie, virtue-signalling for all they’re worth – which is less than nothing!
The regular grass verge was paved to make that cycle path.
Wonder what happens if any insects start stinging the rather static targets beneath? Lawsuits?
The council will be stung for damages.
That’s a waspish comment Mr T!
Buzz off!
Bees, at a bus stop.
For goodness sake.
“Bees, at a
busbuzz stop.”Fixed it for you, Wibbles.
Interesting research on the ability of mature trees to increase photosynthesis when exposed to higher levels of CO2.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10056469/Mature-trees-boost-CO2-absorb-study-finds.html
I wonder whether the climate CO2 doomsters even know about this and/or have taken it into account in their predictions.
I thought it was well known that increased CO₂ boosts plant growth.
The plans grow in a bubble….
I’ll get me glass of fizz.
#MeToo – the sun is well over the yard-arm.
You have sun?
We do – this is silly Suffolk.
Then don’t go west, young man.
It’s well known that plants grow better when you talk to them.
Even Prince Charles knows that.
It’s the increased CO2 that does it!
Just hug a tree and keep telling it how much you love it!
Did you ever read Lyall Watson’s ‘Supernature’?
No mm,
I haven’t but it looks like essential reading right at this moment.
Quintin Herbst
a year ago
Although the information has been accessible to us for around 50 years, this book is for reading now! …particularly for anyone who wants to tap in to our collective consciousness and be part of man’s latest, and probably our redeeming, evolution. Forget what you think you know and trust in what you feel you know …
I read it about 50 years ago and loved it, am I more cynical now? Yes.
Actually I talk to my plants because if you are attuned to plant life they do indeed communicate in hundreds of subtle ways.
I talk to the trees but they don’t listen to me …
:¬(
Do you pine for them?
Do they just bark at you?
At the greenhouse level certainly, but this appears to be slightly different.
Both ways, I suspect that CO2 is almost certainly more good than bad.
Here’s a very interesting paper on CO₂ levels and climate change.
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/Carboniferous_climate.html
Very interesting.
I particularly liked this bit towards the end:
What does Mother Nature know?
More than all the greeniacs put together.
Boris will dismiss this as it disagrees with Carriescience.
Facts and science are anathema to politicians. They don’t seem able to accept them. You’d think, after centuries of them smacking those stupid fools in the face they’d get the message.
This is nothing new sosrabac. As I have pointed out before, plants evolved during a period when Co2 levels were at least 3 to 4 times what they are now. Such an atmosphere is totally breathable, in fact rather nice for those of us who have been in Co2 enriched greenhouses. More Co2 is not a danger but the opposite, abundance. As the knock on effect of abundant plant life growing to its natural proportions, means plenty of t food for all life. I say “natural proportions” because we actually live in a Co2 starved atmosphere and what you regard as normal plant life is actually stunted in growth because of a severe dearth of Co2, the enriched atmosphere that plants actually evolved in. In short the dangers of Co2 are an outright lie. As a horticulturist by profession I have known this for years as have all trained horticulturists and botanists.
I am sure that at the greenhouse level this has been well known for many years. Plantsmen have been taking advantage.
However, can you cite similar studies on 150 year old mature trees? It’s the first I’ve seen, though TBH I haven’t been looking out for them
Greenhouses are good for palms, developers not so much.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-58650503
I am not aware specifically of studies on trees but it is common sense because they also evolved at a time when Co2 levels were much higher than to day. Truth is that I’m not much interested in trees per se, so don’t take much notice of data about them unless they belong to specific families of plants that I’m interested in.
But from your original post the argument is that they increase oxygen output when given more Co2. Is that correct? If so the answer is, of course they do, that is precisely what they evolved to do. The more Co2, the more oxygen they will produce. That they would become more vigorous in that cycle is simply proof of what I’m saying. That plants in general are stunted and that when given additional Co2 will produce more oxygen because they would be healthier and thus the exchange of gasses would increase in volume. No different really from when a starving person is given food they then become healthier and more productive. The point being that modern plants are starved.
The simple answer is I don’t know, I posted the original because I thought it might stimulate debate.
I presume that as part of the photosynthesis they do produce more O2, but why? If they need CO2 and O2 is their waste product, what uses that and what is the symbiotic relationship between them?
My take on it is that we/mankind don’t know everything and the scientists are not as clever and all knowing as they claim to be.
A starving person given too much food will die.
To your last sentence, true but trees are, as I pointed out are permanently starved in todays atmosphere.
As for: “I presume that as part of the photosynthesis they do produce more O2, but why?” Simple. Larger trees considerably more foliage and healthier and thus greater exchange of gasses.
What uses O2? most non plant life forms.
Actually my take on the experiment was. I wonder how much the grant is to tell us the plant equivalent of. Do bears s£it in the woods. And the answer is….
And to your: “My take on it is that we/mankind don’t know everything and the scientists are not as clever and all knowing as they claim to be.” Is perfectly true. Most scientists have yet to catch up with the simple truth that you can’t take one life form in isolation and have an answer to questions. I believe that our world is an interconnected and mutually reciprocal dynamic system. So to talk of one thing is to imply many things that are not obvious on the surface.
I’m sorry, but I refer you to a certain Mr. Darwin.
Over millions of years these things adapt, how can you be so confident trees are starving? Might it not be the case that they have adapted?
Blimey, you’re starting to sound like a climate scientist with all the certainty that that entails.
I’m guessing you meant to write more:
Actually my take on the experiment was. I wonder how much the grant is to tell us the ew
I’m perfectly aware of Darwin. And to to the question. “Might it be the case that they have adapted”. The answer is yes, in a fashion, by becoming smaller and thus don’t need the quantities of Co2 they got when they evolved. But adaption is not necessarily the right answer in as much as adaption can send flora and fauna down an evolutionary cul-de-sac, as we all know. I suggest you watch Patrick Moore, the only scientist in Greenpeace who quite when it went off the scientific rails, he explains very well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5K5i5Wv7jQ
I did write more, so please go and reread. I hit the post button accidently. We can be confident that trees are starving by the simple expedient of looking at fossilized plants of modern taxa and comparing them with living plant. There are other ways of checking too.
Err, ever looked at a small reptile, a crocodile, a bird?
All changed as the world changed.
Yes but plants aren’t adapting other than becoming more stunted so to use less energy. Why they are not adapting I don’t know, it isn’t my field. But it is undoubtedly a fact that they aren’t. It may well be, come to think of it, that the lack of Co2 makes it impossible for them to adapt? Adaptation requires energy and without that….
PS, good video.
There are many real botanists and scientists who have fought back, and of those I know of, most have been “cancelled”.
It’s why I hate the absolute certainty that these people have that they are right.
They might yet turn out to be, but I wish to God that they would open their minds to the fact that there may well be alternative reasons why what is happening is happening.
And, if you would like highly entertaining lessons/explanations in botany/horticulture. Watch my favourite botanist. “Crime Pays But Botany Doesn’t”. https://www.youtube.com/c/CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
Your data, Johnathan, has been added to my link (rant) on CO2 and its place in Climate Change Theology. To date it reads:
A Letters BTL comment about global warming that caught my eye…yet another budding NoTTLer I think:
John Kirby
26 Oct 2020 4:28AM
@Kevin Bell ,,,,Hi Kevin, I agree 100%
As I write the BBC have a group discussing Global Warming.
All of them believe that carbon dioxide causes it. No scientific debate then, no Devil’s Advocate. They want “De-Carbonisation” of the economy by 2050.
Successive governments have taken us along this path with the Climate Change Act of 2008.
No attempt has been made to follow true scientific debate. Any opposition has been treated as some sort of heresy.
Our politicians have followed the dogma. This is a much greater threat to the economic and intellectual future of Britain than the Covid virus.
Yet the government continues with this dangerous and wrong-headed policy.
I repeat some facts:-
1) CO2 is a trace gas.
2) At 0.04% it is 1 part in 2,500 of the atmosphere.
3) But 24/25ths of atmospheric CO2 comes from nature,
4) From rotting vegetation, volcanoes, wildfires and the oceans.
5) So man made CO2 is 1 part in 2,500 X 25 of the atmosphere
6) That is 1 part in 62,500 of the atmosphere.
In terms of Statistical Thermodynamics and in terms of Common Sense, that is insignificant
I think the slight increase in CO2 is CAUSED by global warming, warming up the oceans and driving out dissolved CO2.
Addendum:
There has historically been much more CO2 in our atmosphere than exists today. For example:
During the Jurassic Period (200 million years ago), average CO2 concentrations were about 1800 ppm or about 4.7 times higher than today.
The highest concentrations of CO2 during all of the Paleozoic Era occurred during the Cambrian Period, nearly 7000 ppm — about 18 times higher than today.
The Carboniferous Period and the Ordovician Period were the only geological periods during the Paleozoic Era when global temperatures were as low as they are today. To the consternation of global warming proponents, the Late Ordovician Period was also an Ice Age while at the same time CO2 concentrations then were nearly 12 times higher than today– 4400 ppm.
As one who has gardened over 5 decades it is perfectly clear to me that the extra CO2 means more work for gardeners in keeping plants under control:
There has historically been much more CO2 in our atmosphere than exists today. For example:
During the Jurassic Period (200 mya), average CO2 concentrations were about 1800 ppm or about 4.7 times higher than today.
The highest concentrations of CO2 during all of the Paleozoic Era occurred during the Cambrian Period, nearly 7000 ppm — about 18 times higher than today.
The Carboniferous Period and the Ordovician Period were the only geological periods during the Paleozoic Era when global temperatures were as low as they are today. To the consternation of global warming proponents, the Late Ordovician Period was also an Ice Age while at the same time CO2 concentrations then were nearly 12 times higher than today– 4400 ppm.
I wonder what was producing all the CO2.
I don’t necessarily trust these sources, but they claim that humans produce considerably more than volcanos.
https://skepticalscience.com/volcanoes-and-global-warming.htm
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/which-emits-more-carbon-dioxide-volcanoes-or-human-activities
Absolute, unmitigated Bullshit!.
That Palma Eruption will have produced more CO2 than all the greenies have ‘saved’ to date.
That would be my reaction too, but almost every article one finds suggests that volcanic activity over the course of many years doesn’t actually produce all that much CO2 relative to human activity. It may well be that search algorithms are biased towards the human rather than the volcano end
There are good articles out there:
https://principia-scientific.com/a-volcano-eruption-can-emit-more-co2-than-all-humanity-why-worry/
Interestingly the man vs volcano theory seems to be based on very limited research, like so much AGW nonsense.
I suspect that, as in so many fields of human research, the reality is that we don’t have a clue.
We have a great deal of knowledge especially of the nature of CO2 and its essential nature. There is no empirical evidence that CO2 might cause dangerous warming. None at all. We are labouring under a massive fraud and will pay a terrible price.
Don’t hold back! Give it to ’em between the eyes. We should be trying to find some way of getting the message across. The children regard me as a dinosaur and I am. I don’t understand why they don’t take it in when I say there was a lot more CO2 around when the dinosaurs roamed the lush green earth, and I had to hide from them.
Thank you, Horace, I shall join you in the dinosaur zoo.
For the current, young, great unwashed, our knowledge and experience counts for nowt – as usual, they (think) they know better.
Oh, how sad, when the scales finally fall from their (middle-aged) eyes.
I don’t think the scales ever will fall from their eyes though. I think they will die believing in man-made global warming, whatever happens, and also that covid was a deadly plague from which we were only rescued by vaccines.
I have this subconscious feeling that one day they will wake up, but realistically, I know they won’t, regardless of the evidence.
Skeptical science is a warmist site designed to lure the unwary. Undersea volcanos produced vast quantities of CO2
Trying to find sites that give a balanced view of both sides of the argument with figures one can actually trust is extremely difficult. Hence my comment re the sources linked.
For all the claims about the research I can’t help feeling that it is a limited number of papers that the whole edifice is standing on, rather like an inverted pyramid; they are all quoting each other, with variations on the theme, rather than being original.
I look back at what I was being taught at university as being rock solid. 50 years on much of it has been questioned, and plenty has been found to be incorrect. When we start to see some honesty about CC I suspect similar will happen and I won’t be surprised if the same applies to Covid and the control/vaccination regime being put in place.
Not really a surprise. The trees have been at it for donkey’s years, even before donkeys were invented. Where do our snowflakes think coal comes from?
Specially delivered from Hell I suspect.
Tomatoes are grown in greenhouses with increased CO2 (gas blown in) to increase the speed of growth.
Indeed.
Christmas panic begins as sales of frozen turkeys rise fourfold
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/10/03/christmas-panic-begins-sales-frozen-turkeys-rise-fourfold/
Does this mean that we will not be able to buy a turkey for Christmas? Great! I don’t like it, anyway. I’d much rather have beef and gammon.
A butcher friend says his Devon based turkey farm supplier can’t get the seasonal east European workers to process the turkeys, so the demand will outstrip supply apparently.
Ham is much nicer, a honey roasted ham. But for Christmas I like to do Cornish game hens. Tender and tasty with grape and chestnut stuffing.
Cornish game hens. From…?
Game birds, eh? Brings back memories…!!
Yep, Bill, sad that it’s only memories.
If you can’t find game hens then try Guinea fowl. About the same size. They taste like roast chicken used to taste.
Aren’t guinea fowl somewhat fiddly, Philip?
I know not, never having tried the little blighters
Not at all. Just a smallish size to a chicken. Serves 2/3. Same bone structure.
I take the legs and wings off for another day. Pan fry the crown for a few minutes to get a bit of colour then pop in the oven at 180 for 15 minutes. Just carve the breasts off when cooked.
Easy peasy.
Sainsburys, I think. I say “I think” because I just go there and don’t pay much attention to what the supermarket is called. If you would like Nanny I can find out from the person who normally drives me there.
Nanny, just phoned my neighbour that takes me to the Supermarket. So, for clarification. What I call ‘Cornish Game Hens’ are called ‘Poussin’ in the UK. Sorry to confuse but I often get U.K terms in cooking confused with U.S. terms. i.e. I call chips fries and aubergine, egg plant and Mangetout, seriously? How pretentious!
So I’m often unaware that I’m using the wrong term for the UK. I’m at the point now where I’m so muddled about terminology that I often have to ask or consciously think about what something is called. I still say pants and not trousers which sounds silly to me! When I cook I use a chart with American and British measures and translate into U.S. mainly because it confuses the hell out of me the way that the UK does it. Especially when measuring for cakes which I cook a lot. Much prefer the American cup measuring system and most of my cookbooks I order from the USA so I don’t have to put up with that continental metric filth! Not that I’m prejudiced against continentals, some people I know actually live there! 😁
We’re having bally cheese on bally toast.
And not even nice bally cheese at that!
Goose, Large Chicken, Beef or Leg of Lamb.
Just the two of us this Christmas so probably Beef or Lamb.
Just to put things in perspective.
Mainland China has the greatest number of coal-fired power stations of any nation in the world. As of 2021, there were 1,082 operational …
And cause most of the World’s “pollution”. But the eco-freaks NEVER say a word about it. Funny that. Not.
And still the numbers are growing.
They need all that energy for cryptomining, fabricating solar panels for the West and undercutting global prices on the industrial and domestic product markets.
What is cryptomining? Is it like Kabuki?
I think it’s about making worthless, the investments of those idiots who bought ‘bitcoins’ and the like.
Akin to a South Sea Bubble – check your history lessons.
Just like the Poseidon Adventure.
It’s an oriental form of alchemy for the search of ways of turning hidden digital codes into gold.
It’s an oriental form of alchemy for the search of ways of turning hidden digital codes into gold.
Take your pick;
https://www.energylivenews.com/2021/02/04/china-built-over-three-times-as-much-coal-plant-capacity-as-the-rest-of-the-world-in-2020/
https://time.com/6090732/china-coal-power-plants-emissions/
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02645-w
Giving the levels of atmospheric pollution and the impact on health I now understand why the CCP lifted its one child policy…..
So all the extra children can by miners…?
I’ll get me pick.
Of course I don’t know the actual numbers but could it be that China has more coal-fired power station capacity than the rest of the world combined?
Quite possible but India is at it as well its has about 250 with more to come.
Of course I don’t know the actual numbers but could it be that China has more coal-fired power station capacity than the rest of the world combined?
339625+ up ticks,
Will they be on the next honours list for patriotic perseverance in giving truth an airing.
https://twitter.com/ninnyd101/status/1444705988074934282
The news must be getting out if people are demonstrating!
The deceit on both sides has been absurd. Government statistics were a complete nonsense where every death with covid detected was counted as from covid.
Golf club in the head? Covid. Lamp post in the chest? Covid. It made the data untrustworthy.
Ogga. I see you have a ‘fan’ club. Perhaps Mr Stapleford would like to come on here and present an alternative view?
Thought not…
330635+ up ticks,
Afternoon GG,
Could be old clogo or boot poor sole paedo fan methinks, I barely notice anyway busy logging & stacking, logging that is NOT doing an anthony charlie lynton.
Good job they aren’t doing it in Australia. The police would have beaten them to death.
https://twitter.com/HMS__Lion/status/1445014621912539137
Government can’t build anything. We do.
Here’s an idea, you gibbous oaf, stop taxing us so damned much and let *us* build what we want.
Ah, I like it, “”gibbous”, as in having a hump”, or “swollen , misshapen moon”. He’s certainly giving taxpayers the hump.
Obviously ‘pissed again’.
Spelling’s wrong.
6uild 6ack 6etter…
Apols for not being here. On Sunday the mare broke a foreleg and threw the wife in a bush. Bruised ribs and a twisted ankle but otherwise ok.
However, I also have a massive chest infection and the hospital people were terrified I had covid and wouldn’t let me see her.
Sorry to hear that, Wibbles.
Who was shot, the mare or the wife?
One has to ask in these situations – apologies for any levity.
I’d like to shoot the wife. But, neither. The horse was helped home by a farmer and I, the vet called and he’s said the bone can be set, but probably won’t be rideable for some time.
Good luck with both, old troop, or all three, if one includes the Vet.
Nor the wife, I imagine… I’ll get Bill’s whip.
That’s a tale of woe.
I hope all recover and that the mare can be treated and doesn’t have to be put down.
Horses. Cheaper to set fire to piles of £50 notes.
What a terrible time you have endured , poor you
Poor everyone .. oh dear.
Do you still have a horse ?
Who looked after your hound and child , problems always happen in threes .
Yours happened all at once .
Mongo and Junior stayed home with mother in law – I found the daft mare (the wife, not the horse) standing leaning the horse against a tree.
Truly, I could shoot her sometimes. The wife, not the horse.
Is it a hobby horse?
hobbling more like….
That’s definitely a bad day, Wibbling. Hope the mare (and the wife) are on the mend. And your chest, of course.
That definitely counts as A Bad Day. Hope all mend soon.
Pleased to hear the mare is OK, wibbers. How’s the wife? :-))
Sorry to hear that, wibbles. Bad luck about the mare, but glad your wife is okay. Good news that the leg can be set, even if it takes some time. All too often a broken leg is catastrophic and the horse can’t be saved.
Currently sheeting down with rain.
Moh back from golf , cup of coffee, slices of Ryvita , delicious trout pate and a couple of fresh figs ( bread hasn’t finished cooking yet )
Nice lightly smoked haddock , poached eggs , spinach , mashed spud and broccoli for later , and stewed apples, blackberries and custard for later .
Talking about figs , our own fig tree didn’t fruit this year, but we have an abundance of small green peaches with white flesh , had a lovely peach pie at the weekend . The peaches look green and hard , but they aren’t , because when you bite into them , they are sweet and juicy . The recent strong winds have scattered them all over the lawn, have to pick them up before the dogs do .
We have a huge fig tree on the the footpath entrance to the Church but it only produces tiddley-widdley little fruits and scatters its leaves all over the track during the Autumn.
“Ho hum” said Pooh.
I associate fig trees with Jewish cemeteries. There is a Jewish cemetery on Fulham Road, opposite the Queen’s Elm PH and the fig tree overhangs the brick walled enclosure (or did in the seventies).
I doubt if there is one Jew in the cemetery of our little 13th Century Church but, who knows? I neither know nor care.
The Fig Tree features in the Bible and is held as a symbol of security by Jews. This might explain the association.
“Judah and Israel lived in safety, every man under his vine and his fig tree, from Dan even to Beersheba, all the days of Solomon.” (1 Kings 4:25)
No problem, Corri, the Bible, like the Quran, may be quoted, whenever, to support an argument.
In you case, I will always favour The Bible even though I am agnostic.
Figs were traditionally a staple winter food round the southern and eastern mediterranean, which would explain its position in popular culture.
Peach pies and crumbles are the best! I always mix some (bought) peaches in with the early windfall apples.
Gooseberry for me. No added sugar.
Teeth cleaned by the acid… lovely!
When my daughter was about five, I bought a jar of goose-gogs (we didn’t have a garden then), and when she opened them and tried one, she said “Mummy, these olives taste very funny”
And now for something completely different
https://twitter.com/TheSun/status/1445020882393448451
Unions won’t like that!
Good! Must be a useful invention.
Although, I’ll admit that plastering is some sort of barmy art form.
My late son (a builder/decorator) reckoned that all plasterers were conmen and thieves! Possibly why several came to his funeral!
Is this that time of the year again, Bill.
No, my dear. Long past. Thank you.
That’s very interesting, because I have come across several bad experiences with plasterers in my life. Possibly they feel underpaid for the work they put in.
It still requires two men to feed and run it!
But will it plaster ceilings?
Soon to be sold along with Chinese ‘tat’, as soon as they invade and take over Taiwan.
That’s all very well, Maggie, but how are the poor bloody plasterers to put food on the table in the future?
They will have their central bank digital currency handouts.
http://i3.cmail19.com/ei/j/33/673/4B6/csimport/Screenshot2021-10-04at11.35.09.113525.png
‘He’s a rescue from the local Conservative association.’
Thanks, Michael. I unsubscribed from the Speccie “writtten by liberals for conservatives” when Kirkup wrote his nonsense about net zero.
I posted this wonderful summary from Kit Knightly at Off-Guardian on my blogsite. It covers just about everything of the main heads of indictment of Mr Global.
https://www.tarableu.com/the-facts-of-the-outrage-set-out/
Kit Knightly link distributed to 99 contacts – some of them NoTTLers.
I am apalled but it only confirms what I have thought since the beginning of the ‘pandemic’.
My thoughts entirely. The question is, what can Joe Public do about what’s going on? Not enough of the public is awake to this socialist nightmare. Until they are …
“The risk of death “from Covid” follows, almost exactly, your background risk of death in general”. Yesterday on Twitter I asked an Israeli about vaxx take-up there and she pointed out that though take-up is lower for both orthodox Jews and orthodox Muslims, that doesn’t entirely explain their higher rate of hospitalisations since both tend to be poorer and have lower standards of living than secular Israelis and are therefore more susceptible to ill-health anyway.
Welcome, Joss, to our humble abode.
The OffG link is essential reading.
‘Afternoon Geoff, OffG, Que?
https://off-guardian.org/
Snap!! :-))
Just trying to be helpful. Organ broke has it? :@)
He was changing his combinations.
(The old ones are the best!)
https://off-guardian.org/
Off Guardian. A useful website…
🙂
Fig Trees. Important to restrict their rooot growth. I planted mine in an old bath. Fruited very heavy and sad to leave it behinnd in Norfolk.
Good afternoon Johnny
Ours is in a large pot and stands about 5ft high , it is in a sunny spot , but no sign of fruit setting .
Does YoH prune it too much?
Ahhh, now that could be the clue .
There are lots of suckers around the base , should they be removed , Peter .
Did I mention to you that the yellow Buddliea recovered after the drastic prune last year , but I had no flowers this year , so next year I do hope I will have a nice surprise .
I’m sure your buddleia will be a delight next year, if left alone.
Suckers on figs? The fig trees I had in Dorset did not produce suckers, but I’d be inclined to remove them.
Hi Peter
Not really suckers, just lots of tiny shoots .
The fig will be moved into a larger container soon.
Found this on the nett.
How to Care for Potted Fig Trees. A container suitable for planting fig trees in pots should be large.
Half whiskey barrels are ideal, but any container large enough to
accommodate the root ball plus some growing space is fine. You can
always transplant the tree in later years as it outgrows the container.
Many thanks for the tip, Johnny .
I saw some half barrels the other day , repotting it is a good idea .
Can you not Pick up thy bath and follow …..
Sheba wouldn’t let him?
I had to pull the plug on that one.
I agree; I have mine in a pot with lots of bricks in it.
Flying by and don’t have time to check if it’s been posted before, but here’s a bit of, erm, practical action against would-be road demonstrators that I reckon might make a few giggle.
https://twitter.com/Stan_VoWales/status/1445036788918149120?s=19P
Good job. I cheered when the car went through.
The idiot who went and sat in front of it – can’t he see how childish he is?
Second childhood?
Good job. I cheered when the car went through.
The idiot who went and sat in front of it – can’t he see how childish he is?
Before dragging them away, get them all do sign a declaration that they are opting out of being eligible to call upon emergency services for themselves or family members.
Here we are in the UK being hit with hints that Christmas may be under threat again i.e. shortage of turkeys and well, shortages of just about anything Johnson and his psychological warfare ‘team’ can contrive. Well, here’s a coincidence (I no longer believe in coincidences since this shit-show hit the road) the good old USA has its own doom monger, one Dr Fauci.
Fauci not certain about Christmas
Lock step? What’s that when it’s at home?
The poisonous Fauci also gets caught out because he really can’t keep up with what he said sometime earlier and what he’s now saying. The lies, obfuscations and misdirections will always find the perpetrators out.
Apologies – link corrected.
I haven’t had turkey for Chritmas since about 1979 when everyone in the family all realised that we were only having it because we thought eachother liked it.
Is anyone at this farcical “conference” – where the audience has been hand-picked (bit like CCP annual beano)- going to say anything REMOTELY controversial?
I’m sure this isn’t REMOTELY controversial enough to meet with your approval, Mr Thomas, but nothing ever is.
John Connolly
Red Wall Tories hit out at cost of net zero
4 October 2021, 1:43pm
One of the government’s flagship priorities this parliament has been its pledge for Britain to reach ‘net zero’ carbon emissions by 2050, with the commitment taking on increasing importance ahead of the COP26 climate summit later this month. But while the policy has wide support across the party, a far more controversial question is how much the change will cost – and if the bill will end up particularly hurting communities in the north.
So far ‘Red Wall’ Tory MPs have been supportive of the government’s efforts to reduce carbon emissions, seeing it as a way to create new green jobs in parts of the country which were hit hard by the deindustrialisation of the past decades. There were signs today, however, that while northern Tories are still supportive of the net zero pledge, they are increasingly concerned about the government’s current direction of travel when it comes to energy policy and the costs of net zero.
Speaking at a Spectator conference event, Ben Houchen, the mayor of the Tees Valley, underlined his support for the policy but argued that ‘the cost of net zero is something we need to get under control’, adding that he thought there more ‘savvy ways’ that government policy could be managed on energy at the moment.
It was a sentiment echoed by Jake Berry, chair of the Northern Research Group of Tory MPs, who outlined his concerns that the costs of Net Zero would fall heaviest on northern seats which the Tories won for the first time in the general election. Berry suggested that this was a ‘pinch point’ for the government and that ‘we have to “fess up” to the fact that it will be many of the “Red Wall” communities who are least able to afford these changes that we are making’.
One of the key costs of net zero will come down to heating – and replacing Britain’s stock of gas boilers. Houchen argued that the recent call to replace every household boiler with a heat pump was a ‘bizarre move’ when they are ‘three times more expensive and actually more than a third of homes can’t accommodate them’. The mayor argued that the civil service was refusing to move with the evidence when it came to using hydrogen for heating instead.
The Tees Valley mayor also sounded a stark warning about moving the net zero target forward, arguing that recent calls for a 2035 net zero target, or the introduction of carbon taxes, would devastate the chemicals industry in the north east by making these businesses uncompetitive – potentially costing thousands of Red Wall jobs. Houchen explained that it was essential that the 2050 target stayed in place, saying:
‘We’re already up against it, which is why we need that timeline. Because if you start bringing it forward to 2035 or 2030 it’s just impossible… without destroying livelihoods and destroying business.’
These kinds of remarks will certainly worry the government ahead of the COP26 summit next month. Both Houchen and Berry are champions of the net zero policy, with the Tees Valley expected to massively benefit from moves to a low-carbon economy. If both of these key figures are now expressing reservations about the potential costs of net zero – and the impact this will have politically – the government may well have a larger battle on its hands when it comes to pushing through the more unpleasant consequences of net zero.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/red-wall-tories-hit-out-at-cost-of-net-zero
All well and good. But he is not standing in front of the party “leaders” on their platform, and the obedient, subservient “audience”, saying this, is he?
He’s not standing in front of the party ‘leaders’ on their platform because, as a newbie MP, he wouldn’t be allowed enough air time. The people on that platform want to be sure they don’t incur the wrath of Nut-nuts. He’s chosen a forum where he can make more noise in the hope that it will be reported beyond a column in the Speccie and get a bit more support for his cause.
I wish him well, in that case. I expect he’ll be de-selected – so as to give Carrion a safe seat.
I have sent Mr Berry a version of my mail to David Davis.
May I invite NoTTLers to do the same to any (of the tiny handful) of Tory MPs they trust.
That’ll be nobody, then.
{:-((
My MP accepts anything that 10 Downing Street says. In other words an empty vessel without a political brain of her own, an apparatchik. . She is also pro-EU and believes the little people of her constituency just don’t understand what a bad thing leaving was for us and in particular for business. I assume it is just a coincidence that here husband and her are both multimillionaires from doing business in Europe.
I don’t know of any politicians you can trust. Perhaps someone has a list?
No list exits. There are none you can trust to do anything other than what’s good for themselves.
Nope
“…seeing it as a way to create new green jobs in parts of the country which were hit hard by the deindustrialisation of the past decades.”
Is it a good thing to employ thousands of people to produce useless junk?
“The mayor argued that the civil service was refusing to move with the evidence when it came to using hydrogen for heating instead.”
Does anyone understand the properties of hydrogen? Pipe it into local homes, Mr Houchen, and you’ll soon discover a new meaning to the term ‘boom town’.
And, how do they propose to create the hydrogen?
Electrolysis of seawater, using, er, electricity (generated how?) or reforming of hydrocarbons… One doesn’t just mine or drill for H2, as you can coal or methane.
Cloud cuckoo land.
Hydrogen’s everywhere, innit? So it just flows down the pipes, dunnit? Nowt to do there, is there?
New green jobs. Paid for by the tax payer, as if the market wanted them, they’d already exist. It’s so demonstrably moronic you want to reach out and smack them about the face until their jaws break.
Hydrogen’s everywhere, innit? So it just flows down the pipes, dunnit? Nowt to do there, is there?
New green jobs. Paid for by the tax payer, as if the market wanted them, they’d already exist. It’s so demonstrably moronic you want to reach out and smack them about the face until their jaws break.
Hydrogen’s everywhere, innit? So it just flows down the pipes, dunnit? Nowt to do there, is there?
New green jobs. Paid for by the tax payer, as if the market wanted them, they’d already exist. It’s so demonstrably moronic you want to reach out and smack them about the face until their jaws break.
No chance, Bill, they’re all cowed and not ‘Old School, Conservative’.
Were I to attend, I’d be asking, “When is the death penalty being restored (will it include rape?) and why aren’t we publicly flogging the under 25 offenders?”
Never. Bunch of lobbyists and spads.
The most hilarious bit so far is ‘we need more tax to restore the economy.’ Oh I larfed and larfed and larfed.
Because it makes perfect sense that you’ll get yourself out of debt by spending vastly more than you earn, every single month.
HAPPY HOUR ? – not for the faint hearted.
Blair & Brown: The New Labour Revolution 9pm BBC2
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There was a ribald song we used in the services, Plum, and the first line was, “Fuck ’em all, Fuck ’em all, the long and the short and the tall.”
Those are my sentiments about these two, two of the most evil bastards that have ever (dis)graced our political class.
My faint heart has no wish to be subject it their machinations – Fuck ’em all!.
The unspeakable with the despicable.
Interchangeable
Very disappointing that this ruinous-heinous pair were followed by Tory imitators. Cameron-Osborne, May-Hammond. and now, Johnson (Boris, but mainly Carrie).
The ONLY good thing Broon did was to prevent us joining the ghastly euro.
True, but it’s also true that IF Blair had been against the Euro, Brown would have wanted us to join.
Don’t care! He prevented what would have been a total catastrophe.
True, but it’s also true that IF Blair had been against the Euro, Brown would have wanted us to join.
But the ONLY reason he did so was to spite Blair, if Blair had been anti we’d have been in.
See my comment below.
Indeed, but that doesn’t change what he is, a complete and utter shit.
No one is arguing about that.
I don’t give a stuff for his motives – he didn’t join. Thank God.
The right outcome for the wrong reason.
Those two and their team of wreckers did more long term damage to the UK than any government ever.
Whatever Blair or Brown touched caused and continues to cause us harm.
I detest them.
An arrogant prick, and Mr Bean.
Good government.
A gentle summary of my feelings for them.
That Bastards fuel tax hikes made it uneconomical for me to stay in a job. His council tax hikes drove me out of my first flat. His refusal to increase the tax allowance robbed me.
I hate him. I hate him with a passion most can only imagine.
One distracts whilst the other picks your pocket/pension.
Certainly picked mine. So we left the UK.
Brown just punched you in the belly, stole your wallet, emptied it and then took your watch, house keys, stole your car and tried to take you house as well.
The worst bit? Throughout he lied. Repeatedly. His insane policies destroyed jobs, expanded welfare five fold and wrecked this country. His real crime was saying he was helping the poor with his every tax hike.
Revulsion more like…..
Look like the human league in suits.
Both men should be forced to apologise for the phenomenal debt they lumbered this country with, the destruction of our pensions and savings industry, the banking mess and for Lisbon.
I was looking for something else and came across this. Nurse accused of murdering 8 babies in the space of one year at Countess of Chester Hospital, and 10 more attempted murders.
So, when the babies died, the hospital just said, “oh, too bad, shit happens”? Surely to God, the death of any baby should be the subject of a thorough and detailed investigation? Murder by nurses is not unknown.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-58790840
Kneel y’bugger:
https://twitter.com/pamsprex/status/1444703720583974923?s=20
Ignorant, self-obsessed wazzock.
Why on EARTH do the PTB pay the slightest attention to this bore who would be alone in a corner talking to himself in any pub.
These loan payment things were challenged by the Inland Revenue and they eventually won, I think. The “Glasgow Rangers”case.
A classic example of taxes being too high.
Is he channeling his tax savings into free meals for the kiddiewinks?
HA! HA! HA!
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/whatsapp-instagram-facebook-outage-not-working-server-b958747.html
WhatsApp, Instagram and Facebook in chaos as apps stop working in outage
Oh, dear, what a shame.
…chaos as apps stop working in outRage…
Will the vaccine passport still work?
Well, will we be able to play the piano? Here in Scotland the Covid vaccination app does not work, although it came into legal force last week. Apparently there is a shortage of Gaelic programmers. The Scottish government has tried garlic programmers unsuccessfully, and have asked Jimmy Shand to help.
HA! HA! HA!
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/whatsapp-instagram-facebook-outage-not-working-server-b958747.html
WhatsApp, Instagram and Facebook in chaos as apps stop working in outage
Oh, dear, what a shame.
Polish M.Ps speak out about Australian totalitarian government.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMrQRe8kGiY&list=TLPQMDQxMDIwMjEFuH9MUGK50w&index=17
Bet the Ozzies withdraw their Ambassador.
Only if they can tie him down, sport.
I hope this works
Punk is sooo old hat dahling…..
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She’s wearing her PJs ready for an early night.
She, Helen Mirren, looks much better in RED & RED2
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1245526/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
That’s Helen MIrren? WTF happened to her face?
They put a mirror in front of her just as she entered the catwalk?
Be assed if I know!
Be assed if I know
https://pagesix.com/2021/10/04/helen-mirren-walks-the-runway-for-loreal-at-paris-fashion-week/
Join the club. I didn’t recognise her.
She is channelling Donnatella Versace…
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Donnatella? Ninja Turtle?
All she has to do is take the weighty earrings off and her face will pop back into shape….
I certainly didn’t recognise her.
To put it mildly, she doesn’t look comfortable.
An early night for wot…………..don’t answer if of a delicate constitution.
Looking after her aching feet – just look at those “shoes”…
For my taste that is a singularly unflattering outfit and hairstyle.
I’m working my way through Prime Suspect at the moment. HM is 75 and looks in good shape. She doesn’t look happy in that outfit.
That old? Then maybe I withdraw my comment below.
I think she looks great.
Yeah but, you think you look great.
};-O
Doesn’t everyone?
Dog lovers, certainly!
Who could blame her!
Didn’t convicts used to wear suits with arrows on them?
Cook has just called to say that a glass of medicine is waiting for me. So I’ll sign off for this quite agreeable day. Just too chilly to have lunch outdoors.
Sorting out various nice garden jobs to do from Wed on (wet tomorrow) in the latest forecast “heatwave”.
The MR and I are really VERY grateful to Our Susan for posting the ancient link to an ancient JY Prog. I had never heard it – because they progs were live I have never heard more than a handful of snippets! So it was quite extraordinary for me – and, she said, a great treat for Carolyn – to hear that I actually sounded quite coherent!!
Anyway, a trip down memory lane in spades.
A demain.
Anyway, a trip down memory lane in spades.
Blimey, are you an albino BAME?
‘Night All
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Off to the Camps!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-j2uc_C4RM
Oi Laffed,I’m going to Hell aren’t I??
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Interesting that the older they were, the less likely they were to agree.
Go Oldies, go.
The Mark Dice video is frightening. It shows what we’re up against. Don’t anyone, ever again wonder how the Nazis took over.
Douglas Ross to make keynote speech denouncing Scottish Nationalism at CPC21, or maybe he has already made it? I have written to him twice and had polite replies but he has paid no attention to what I said.
Here is a quote from my last letter to him which was prior to the Scottish parliament elections;
. blah, blah, then,
…Let me try to be as clear as may be.
If you challenge the SNP on independence you will lose. More than half the population support independence. That means you are looking for votes from half of the electorate.
It is a numbers game and the numbers are against you on independence…”
more blah then,
“…Make a list of financial disasters, brought about by incompetence, with names and dates. Pin down individuals.
Ferries,
Shipyard,
Dundee Museum,
Queensferry Crossing,
Scotrail,
New Sick Kids,
Theft of the Burrell Collection.
There is scope for a very long list
(I have not mentioned the plot against Salmond, which goes to the root of the Parliament and of the justice system.)
Tell the people, hammer away at the SNP on every aspect of the performance of every department.
Every constituency in Scotland has probably suffered in some way, even the success stories are disasters. Skye has been brought to a standstill by tourists in cars and camper vans as a result of an SNP government marketing plan. The North 500 is similarly incredibly inconvenient for the locals. It is failure to provide infrastructure – promoting tours on the cheap, – to the detriment of those who live there and work there.
You will need to get your researchers working, as well as your constituency committees.
To sum up, you need to attack the underbelly of the SNP lion and stay away from the teeth.”…
A complete waste of effort. Ross does not seem to understand that even he gets all the non-independence votes the Tories will still be a powerless minority. He has to win votes from nationalists and also to understand that using the war-cry “Nationalism Bad!” won’t help win elections, however well it plays to conference attendees.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19622044.douglas-ross-vows-end-nationalism-good-keynote-address/?
Is not Douglas Ross, “a bear of very little brain, and long words bother [him]”?
What is the difference between a speech and a keynote speech?
The latter has many more unicorns….
Piano accompaniment, dancers from the Ziegfeld Follies…
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2021/10/04/0510-MATT-GALLERY-WEB-P1_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ_vEN7c6bHu2jJnT8.png?imwidth=1260
I swear, Matt gets better and better.
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Just been reading the disqus comments about the Facebook server outage on Downdetector app:
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Really heavy traffic from Facebook users who have no idea what to do without their virtual world.
Some really hilarious comments!
Show then please.
Here are some recent comments:
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Thanks.
Here are some recent comments:
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TBT or not TBT
A great disturbance in the farce….
.as if a billion social meeja whores suddenly cried out in pain, and were silenced.
Ahem
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Edit
Double Ahem………
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Are you trying to get us Arkancided?!
Cripes, this is just going to cause mental isuoos in the young beyond belief. I’ll be avoiding walking under tall buildings for a while.
Cripes, this is just going to cause mental isuoos in the young beyond belief. I’ll be avoiding walking under tall buildings for a while.
leicestersq
What is the point of getting a vaxx passport and myocarditis if you can’t post a picture of your restaurant meal on a Facebook Post?
I never even noticed it was down!
The first segment of the now-completed Nord Stream 2 underwater pipeline is being filled with gas in advance of final authorization from German regulators to turn on the taps, the company behind the scheme has revealed.
In a statement released on Monday, the operators said “the procedure for filling the first string of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline has begun.” According to them, “the string will now be filled with gas gradually in order to achieve the volume and pressure required for further technical testing.”
“Earlier, technical work was carried out to ensure the integrity of the pipeline, including in-line inspections using special diagnostic devices known as ‘smart pistons’, as well as external visual and instrumental checks,” the statement continued.
“Smart pistons” = intelligent pigs (Pipeline Internal Gauge). An inspection device run through the pipeline taking measurements of wall thickness and weld quality.
I’ll get me coat…
Oink.
You oink therefore you’re Ham?
As a Cathodic Protection tech, I will also don my coat.
When my knees finished any cross country CP work, I toyed with going into pigging, but decided on early retirement.
Nearest I got to that was to design a couple of CP systems, and review a pile of other people’s designs. Haven’t been much into CP since the late 90s – now I’m a “Maintenance Expert”… if anyone knows what that means, please let me know, ‘cos I’m still the same farty that I always was.
Just imagine.
Might the vaccine be pumping this into 100’s of millions of people and might it be waiting a trigger, a common cold, for example.?
Happy days ahead.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10057611/Covid-survivors-plagued-symptoms-weeks-beating-illness-micro-blood-clots.html
Yes, in a word.
But just look on the bright side, plenty of petrol for the unvaxxed.
Bob3, your humour is as black (can I use this word?) as your hat.😎
But just look on the bright side, plenty of petrol for the unvaxxed.
Dr Sukharit Bhakdi was warning of this problem many months ago. He made videos explaining the mechanism employed by the ‘spike protein’ contained in the potion that would allow it to affect the inner lining of blood vessels’ walls. Micro clotting at the capillary level will eventually shut down the body’s affected organs as the blood supply to them decreases.
More recent pictures taken through microscopes (from many different sources) of the blood of people who have taken the potion indicate red blood cells ‘stacking’ together rather like coins (Rouleaux).
The UK after Boris’s build back better program, at least the newcomers will feel at home
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4 October: Looks to be a substantial band of rain passing through tonight and most of tomorrow. Luckily we don’t have many leaves down as yet in Bournville, so we won’t be subject to the dreadful underfoot condition of lots of wet leaves on the pavement. However, I recall that the combination of wet ground and trees still largely in leaf created the conditions for a terrible loss of trees and damage to property in the Great Storm of mid-October 1987.
Lets hope the son of Sam currently in the Atlantic doesn’t change course
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Michael Fish say’s that some old bat rung in to say that there is a storm on it’s way.
Codswallop!
An old school friend and subsequent colleague lived for a while in Bournville. Stayed with him once or twice. Heard the Carillion. Did the Harborne Run. This was almost 40 years ago.
Fast forward to the present day, and my ex’s daughter and her SO have recently bought a place in Harborne.
Being from Oop North, I missed the hurricane, but attended a job interview in East Anglia a few months later, and the devastation was clear to see.
Good night all.
Somebody had a nice walk in South Birmingham today:
https://twitter.com/IanGenge/status/1445058826512830465?s=20
https://twitter.com/TheSun/status/1445131616687476736
330625+ up ticks,
Exclusive Interview: Richard Tice Says BOJO’s ‘Con-Socialists’ Leading UK Down the ‘Road to Ruin’
All I can hear in the back ground is ” he marched them up to the top of the hill then he marched them down again”.
The fat turks top up brigade we have seen them in action before, lest we forget.
I imagine Bullshitting Eco Boris is now thought as detestable as Blair by half of us.
Almost all of the current ‘Young World Leaders’ have gone through the Schwab indoctrination course. They include Merkel, Blair & Brown, Johnson, Trudeau, Hancock, Jacinda Ardern and many others plus the likes of Zuckerberg and his ilk.
These ghastly creeps believe that by acceding to the remonstrations of Schwab and his cohorts that they will become part of a global elite, harnessing untold wealth and privilege and lauding it over us plebs.
I suspect that should these globalist minions succeed in putting international bankers and fraudsters in control of the world economy they, themselves, will become eminently disposable.
The entire world now needs to wake up to the abominable crimes being perpetuated by this reincarnation of a German Third Reich. They use the same techniques as Hitler, Himmler and Goebbels especially in launching an enforced medical tyranny. It is as plain as day.
330625+ up ticks,
Exclusive Interview: Richard Tice Says BOJO’s ‘Con-Socialists’ Leading UK Down the ‘Road to Ruin’
All I can hear in the back ground is ” he marched them up to the top of the hill then he marched them down again”.
The fat turks top up brigade we have seen them in action before, lest we forget.
Goodnight and God bless all my fellow NoTTLers.
Good morning, as it is now!, all. Zero tolerance is the way to go; it has been proven to work.
Goodnight, all.
Good morning all – Tuesday’s new page is here.
Thank you, Sir!
Good morning all – Tuesday’s new page is here.