Monday 5 April: Covid passports in Britain are a backdoor way of making vaccination compulsory

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2021/04/04/letters-covid-passports-britain-backdoor-way-making-vaccination/

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  1. In the heat of the culture wars we have lost our moral compass. 5 April 2021.

    Our institutions now view every problem in Britain through the same lens as the radical Left

    As ever, this latest battle in the culture war is caused not by conservatives but the rapid recent radicalisation of the Left. And, as ever, the Left will go on getting their way, because sensible people and moderate organisations have, through the accommodation of extreme ideologies and fear of angry and violent mobs, surrendered to their cause.

    Morning everyone. The Long March through the Institutions is complete and what we now have is a de-Facto, One Party, Authoritarian, Anti-Democratic Neo-Marxist state in everything but name.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/04/heat-culture-wars-have-lost-moral-compass/

      1. Morning Bob. Yes but it looks as though the UK is the most advanced case!

        1. Large majority in Parliament, no opposition, people were fooled because they thought they had voted for a right wing party that was on their side.

      1. Not neo-Marxist. Corporatist, certainly, but if we were remotely Marxist then individuals would have far more say in their lives and we would, most likely be heavily unionised.

        What we have is a central government so corrupt and incompetent, so awash with public money that companies – especially multinationals – can buy legislation and suffocate competition.

        When that seect committe summond Google execs to demand they pay more tax, their response – rightly – was, well, you make the law. Change it. As Google continue to pay as little tax as is possibly – rightly so – one assumes MPs aren’t interested in properly reforming tax law.

  2. In the heat of the culture wars we have lost our moral compass. 5 April 2021.

    Our institutions now view every problem in Britain through the same lens as the radical Left

    As ever, this latest battle in the culture war is caused not by conservatives but the rapid recent radicalisation of the Left. And, as ever, the Left will go on getting their way, because sensible people and moderate organisations have, through the accommodation of extreme ideologies and fear of angry and violent mobs, surrendered to their cause.

    Morning everyone. The Long March through the Institutions is complete and what we now have is a de-Facto, One Party, Authoritarian, Anti-Democratic Neo-Marxist state in everything but name.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/04/heat-culture-wars-have-lost-moral-compass/

    1. Good morning to you all! It has snowed here too! Blooming cold and hydrangeas wilting!

  4. morning all, let’s see how long power last’s today [a weekend of outage]. Usual KPLC Easter. I see from DT headline, they’re still punting C-19 passports and vaccination compulsory. Have they missed the point as yet, no peer review & licence on vaccinations aside no Government would make it compulsory / mandatory given Coronavirus Act grants emergency powers. And Halfcock last week when questioned on data, clearly started sweating profusely [presumably Covid 2022]

  5. Good morning from an overcast Derbyshire with 0°C in the yard and a few scattered snowflakes gently drifting to the ground.

  7. SIR – I am a lifelong Conservative voter who has just read Michael Gove’s article on exploring the need for Covid Certification (Comment, April 4).

    He calls it “exploring “ when he seems to have made his mind up and is looking for the best way to sell this Covid certification passport.

    It means every adult would need a certificate or be denied entry to cinemas, theatres, football grounds, pubs, restaurants, etc. It seems like a backdoor way to get every adult vaccinated.

    If he feels this way, Mr Gove should have the courage of his convictions and propose compulsory vaccinations.

    Alan Taylor
    Cuddington, Cheshire

    SIR – Michael Gove invites Telegraph readers to share their views on his interest in Covid certification. My view is that his interest is similar to that of a cobra peering into a bird’s nest.

    An Englishman’s freedom, under common law, to go about his business unmolested by the state is threatened more than at any time since the war.

    As a former Conservative MP, I never thought I would see the day that my party’s leaders sought to extend control over our lives under the cover of such a mendacious scheme.

    Now that those at risk are vaccinated, a genuine Conservative government would be doing the opposite, by removing all restrictions in line with the data.

    John Sykes
    MP for Scarborough & Whitby, 1992-97
    Huddersfield, West Yorkshire

    SIR – Boris Johnson told the nation not to meet indoors over Easter, even if vaccinated, as the vaccine does not give 100 per cent protection.

    He is also developing a scheme for people to meet at indoor events, such as pubs and theatre, only if they have proof of vaccination.

    So he is saying that after being vaccinated we can’t meet the family indoors, as we don’t have 100 per cent protection, but we can meet hundreds of strangers at indoor events. This must be one of the Government’s most contradictory messages.

    This is a clear sign that it is no longer in control, it is not following science, it doesn’t know what it is doing and that policies are being made on a whim.

    John Martin
    Swarthmoor, Cumbria

    SIR – I thought the Government had blown its “daft idea” budget on Test and Trace. Apparently not.

    Paul Gaynor
    Windermere, Cumbria

    SIR – Lord Greenhalgh says that the Government has yet to rule out Covid certificates for churches. Will sidesmen be retrained as bouncers so that only those with the right papers will be allowed entry?

    Dr Penelope Upton
    Lighthorne, Warwickshire

    SIR – We were assured all lockdown measures would end by June 21, provided Covid data were favourable. The notion of vaccination passports is yet another way of stopping the country getting back to normality.

    Who really believes that when these passports are available another barrier will not be put up to our freedom?

    Dr David Walters
    Burton Bradstock, Dorset

    SIR – I have just received an alert from the NHS myGP app informing me that the app will soon have the capability to show my vaccination status.

    I have no qualms about holding evidence of vaccinations, but is the new app proposed by the Government providing something new? Or are we

    duplicating effort and expense and extending the timescale?

    Colin Burton

    Kingston, Devon

    SIR – If vaccine passports become a reality I do hope that someone in authority remembers that quite a lot of us don’t have smartphones.

    Eryl Tucker

    Bedford

    Litter can be beaten

    SIR – I don’t have a specific solution to the nation’s appalling litter habit (Letters, April 2), but I am conscious of two significant changes in public behaviour that have been achieved through a combination of publicity and enforcement. I refer to the substantial reduction in tobacco smoking and the lower

    incidence of dog-fouled footpaths.

    There remains some way to go in both cases, but their example suggests that with sufficient political resolve the high standards of other nations need not be beyond us.

    W Stuart Hall

    Mickleton, Gloucestershire

    SIR – Reverse vending machines for bottles, cans and other recyclable materials that can recognise the item deposited and pay back actual money, rather than coupons, would go a long way to solving the problem.

    William Molesworth

    Peterborough

    SIR – Patrick Williams (Letters, April 3) picked up 15 energy-drink cans and two rosé bottles on his verge in Kent.

    On our regular litter pick of a section of C road here we have collected many Stella and Special Brew cans, whisky bottles and, inexplicably, numerous large jars of Tesco olives (empty).

    M P Allez
    Stoford, Wiltshire

    Boat Race sinking feeling

    SIR – As a supporter of the Boat Race since 1954, I watched with dismay as this year’s horrible presentation reached heights of uber-crassness normally reserved for the boxing fraternity. How much lower can the BBC sink in its sports presentations?

    Peter Taylor
    Tipton St John, Devon

    SIR – What is it with the BBC and rivers? We had it messing up the Jubilee pageant on the Thames. Now, by the side of the Great Ouse, Oxford and Cambridge crews emerged from lock-up garages filled with disco lights, flanked by spasmodic flame throwers.

    A W Fox
    London W1

    Giving children ideas

    SIR – Since the introduction of sex education into the school curriculum seems to have produced a generation of sex pests, is it wise to start talking about race to kindergarten children?

    David Archibald FRCS
    Borgue, Kirkcudbrigh

    Victims and convicts

    SIR – There is a growing insistence that a person who makes a criminal complaint should be believed and treated from the outset as a “victim”.

    The presumption that every complainant is telling the truth is inconsistent with the presumption that a person accused of a crime is innocent until proved guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Only if there is a conviction does a complainant become a victim.

    There needs to be a public debate as to whether a complainant should be treated as a victim or whether an accused should continue to have the benefit of the presumption of innocence. I believe an accused should, but it is the view of a majority of those whom we elect to Parliament that should prevail.

    The present position confuses complainants and should be clarified.

    Rev His Honour Peter Morrell
    Nassington, Northamptonshire

    The doctor won’t see you now

    SIR – Letters (April 2) on the inability of patients to see their GP chimed with my experience. Despite having an “accountable GP”, as printed on every prescription, I have not seen mine for 15 months.

    Just before Christmas, I was diagnosed with bladder cancer by a GP trainee in the practice. I have subsequently had excellent treatment from my local (Covid-free) hospital.

    In the intervening period, I sought a consultation, which was carried out on the phone by a locum who clearly had little idea of my medical history.

    During the pandemic, every attempt I have made to see my GP has been met with stern resistance from gatekeepers manning the practice telephones.

    On Friday, I wanted to book an appointment and went on to the myGP app, as recommended. There are no GP appointments available. My surgery
    is led not by doctors but administrators.

    Philip Barry
    Dover, Kent

    Quite a big island

    SIR – Michael Deacon wrote about the EU diplomat who said: “You might feel very happy on your little island when you are all vaccinated.”

    I think Bill Bryson might have established the idea that we live on a small island, but anyone caring to look at a list of islands by size will find Great Britain in ninth place – hardly small, then, by world standards.

    John Noc
    Blackwater, Cornwall

    Above are what I could “grab / copy paste”

    1. … it is the view of a majority of those whom we elect to Parliament that should prevail.
      No, Peter Morrell, they have shown themselves to be completely untrustworthy in every way. The only solution is direct democracy, with the HoP converted to being a cafe.

      1. Oberstleutnant mng. When I saw “Rev His Honour Peter Morrell” the mental image of Maurice Yeatman [the verger in Dad’s Army appeared] for no other reason Peter’s title seemed vacuous

      2. The presumption that every complainant is telling the truth is inconsistent with the presumption that a person accused of a crime is innocent until proved guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

        Morning Oberst. The presumption that all complainants are telling the truth also implies that all the accused are lying and therefore guilty!

        1. “Of course you are guilty. The policeman would not have arrested you otherwise!”

  8. Leaked document shows new covid vaccines for coming winter…

    Clostridial and Pasteurella

  9. EU sounds alarm at Russian troops’ Ukraine border moves. 5 April 2021.

    European foreign envoy says Kiev has ‘unwavering support’ of EU while Russia denies threatening behaviour.

    The European Union has pledged its “unwavering” support for Ukraine’s government, with the EU foreign policy chief, Josep Borrell, expressing major worries over Russian troop movements.

    “Following with severe concern the Russian military activity surrounding Ukraine,” Borrell wrote online after a phone call with Ukraine’s foreign minister Dmytro Kuleba.

    The “unwavering support” of what? Bureaucrats? Secretaries? Doormen?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/05/eu-sounds-alarm-at-russian-troops-ukraine-border-moves

  10. Lets just face it, the decision has been made at a higher level than Boris Johnson to bring in mandatory covid vaxx passports, they are just hunting around for a way or a reason to enforce it that most of the gullible people will accept.

    1. and ideally, they’ll want it rubber stamped ahead of next month’s elections [or frustrate the elections and making both virtual and only those jabbed can vote]. Any angle am sure would be pushed to see how gullible people are. As you say, those “corporations” above Boris are calling the shots

      2. 331178+up ticks,
        Morning AWK,
        There has surely GOT to be a peoples reset inclusive of boycotting ALL lab/lib/con/greens/ukip
        candidates, ALL candidates are answerable to the
        party hydra heads.

        The people sheep ( genuine sheep are innocent )
        are giving succour in regards to supporting / voting for the above, calling for more of the same.

      3. I am waiting to see what excuse they will come up with to make the elections either impossible or at least make voting so difficult that the the 35% who can be @rsed to vote in local elections just give up.

        1. agree, I think we both “sense” it’s part of the game plan, for now kept off radar. MSM will have obviously been pre-briefed [informal D Notice]

    2. They’ll use the old tactic of suggesting old tactic of suggesting a full turn on the ratchet and then compromise by only taking it a couple of clicks with the rest put on the backburner for later action.

      1. I think they will rely on people’s laziness and not wanting to pay for the mandatory tests.
        There is no reason to make people pay for three covid tests for every trip overseas. Current cost is around 300 pounds in total. People will then be told “but if you have a vax passport, you don’t have to pay”

    3. We don’t understand the fuss Bob.

      Some weeks ago Chancellor Merkel stated that all visitors to the EU would be required to have the Covid App.

      This was not only to prove satisfactory vaccination, but would allow the authorities to track all visitors [her words, not mine]

      Just because the BBC decided to omit this speech from their news broadcasts, everyone is getting over agitated.

      Why? She stated clearly what the 27 members of the EU intend to do.

      Surely we should be delighted that a German chancellor told us the truth?

  11. Look At It A Different Way

    Those who jump off a bridge in Paris are in Seine.

    A man’s home is his castle, in a manor of speaking.

    Dijon vu – the same mustard as before.

    Practice safe eating – always use condiments.

    Shotgun wedding – A case of wife or death.

    A man needs a mistress just to break the monogamy..

    A hangover is the wrath of grapes.

    Dancing cheek-to-cheek is really a form of floor play.

    Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?

    Condoms should be used on every conceivable occasion.

    Reading while sunbathing makes you well red.

    When two egotists meet, it’s an I for an I.

    A bicycle can’t stand on its own because it is two tired.

    What’s the definition of a will? (It’s a dead giveaway.)

    Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

    In democracy your vote counts. In feudalism your count votes.

    She was engaged to a boyfriend with a wooden leg but broke it off.

    A chicken crossing the road is poultry in motion.

    If you don’t pay your exorcist, you get repossessed

    With her marriage, she got a new name and a dress

    The man who fell into an upholstery machine is fully recovered.

    You feel stuck with your debt if you can’t budge it.

    Local Area Network in Australia – the LAN down under.

    Every calendar’s days are numbered.

    A lot of money is tainted – Taint yours and taint mine.

    A boiled egg in the morning is hard to beat.

    He had a photographic memory that was never developed.

    A midget fortune-teller who escapes from prison is a small medium at large.

    Once you’ve seen one shopping centre, you’ve seen a mall.

    Bakers trade bread recipes on a knead-to-know basis.

    Santa’s helpers are subordinate clauses.

    Acupuncture is a jab well done.

  12. Johnson’s travel traffic light system is so confusing…

    Should have stuck to a zebra crossing.

    Far more black and white.

    1. don’t encourage “White Lines”! He’ll take it as gospel everyone needs coke, supplied of course by his favourite NGO – Black Lives Matter

      1. Mentioning gospel….

        Seems the police are preying on the praying when raiding church services.

  13. The passport plan isn’t Boros Johnson’s plan.

    It’s Gates’ plan.

    Johnson sold out to Gates over a year ago.

    The Davos Billionaires Rule Britannia!

    It’s exactly the same with Net Zero, except in that case it was Theresa May who sold out.

    1. PP mng, 100%. Can’t recall immediately, may have been you, that posted well over a yr ago [may have even been back in 2019] that Billy boy tapped Johnson as his entry format knowing he wasn;t going to get anywhere with Trump

    2. To repeat myself, Polly, I thought you said that all conspiracies were the result of one Mr Soros.

  15. Josh O’Connor and Jessie Buckley dazzle in the paciest, raciest Romeo and Juliet in decades. 5 April 2021.

    There are interesting directorial strokes at every turn of this 360 degree marvel.

    Godwin suggests an unbridled gay love between Fisayo Akinade’s Mercutio and Shubham Saraf’s Benvolio, counterpointing the bouts of visceral, macho street-fighting and knife aggro; and he gives Capulet’s denunciation of his daughter to Lady C (Tamsin Greig, terrifying in her ice-cold matriarchal rejection). The performances are high-definition across the board, making you yearn to watch it in a cinema, perhaps at the NT, which must persist with this bold experiment. On the strength of this showing, the Lyttelton could easily pass for Elsinore and O’Connor would clearly make a sublime Prince of Denmark.

    How did I guess? I’m only surprised that Juliet isn’t Trans and Romeo a Sub Saharan Muslim!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2021/04/04/josh-oconnor-jessie-buckley-dazzle-paciest-raciest-romeo-juliet/

  16. Josh O’Connor and Jessie Buckley dazzle in the paciest, raciest Romeo and Juliet in decades. 5 April 2021.

    There are interesting directorial strokes at every turn of this 360 degree marvel.

    Godwin suggests an unbridled gay love between Fisayo Akinade’s Mercutio and Shubham Saraf’s Benvolio, counterpointing the bouts of visceral, macho street-fighting and knife aggro; and he gives Capulet’s denunciation of his daughter to Lady C (Tamsin Greig, terrifying in her ice-cold matriarchal rejection). The performances are high-definition across the board, making you yearn to watch it in a cinema, perhaps at the NT, which must persist with this bold experiment. On the strength of this showing, the Lyttelton could easily pass for Elsinore and O’Connor would clearly make a sublime Prince of Denmark.

    How did I guess? I’m only surprised that Juliet isn’t Trans and Romeo a Sub Saharan Muslim!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2021/04/04/josh-oconnor-jessie-buckley-dazzle-paciest-raciest-romeo-juliet/

  17. Josh O’Connor and Jessie Buckley dazzle in the paciest, raciest Romeo and Juliet in decades. 5 April 2021.

    There are interesting directorial strokes at every turn of this 360 degree marvel.

    Godwin suggests an unbridled gay love between Fisayo Akinade’s Mercutio and Shubham Saraf’s Benvolio, counterpointing the bouts of visceral, macho street-fighting and knife aggro; and he gives Capulet’s denunciation of his daughter to Lady C (Tamsin Greig, terrifying in her ice-cold matriarchal rejection). The performances are high-definition across the board, making you yearn to watch it in a cinema, perhaps at the NT, which must persist with this bold experiment. On the strength of this showing, the Lyttelton could easily pass for Elsinore and O’Connor would clearly make a sublime Prince of Denmark.

    How did I guess? I’m only surprised that Juliet isn’t Trans and Romeo a Sub Saharan Muslim!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2021/04/04/josh-oconnor-jessie-buckley-dazzle-paciest-raciest-romeo-juliet/

  19. To brighten this miserable day…..

    “I am speaking to you from the cabinet room at 10 Downing St. This morning the Health Secretary in London handed the Chief Medical Officer a final note stating that, unless we heard from him by 11 o’clock that he was prepared at once to withdraw his ultimatum about Covid-19, a state of lockdown would exist between us. I have to tell you now that no such undertaking has been received, and that consequently this country is in perpetual lockdown, isolation and ruin.”

    Following the Prime Minister’s speech there were a series of announcements. All places of entertainment were to close with immediate effect, and people were discouraged from crowding together, unless it was to attend church. Details of the testing regime were also given and it was emphasised that tube stations were not to be used as shelters.

  20. Breaking News – The Polish priest at the Balham church that was closed down by the police on Good Friday has said that he only complied because he didn’t want his congregation to be hit with pewnitive fines

  22. Good morning from a Saxon Queen with blooded axe and longbow .

    I hope you’ve all had an excellent Easter, it was quite sunny but now dull, cloudy and chilly .

  23. What a coincidence with Johnson’s timing of lifting restrictions….

    Rama dame or is it Rama gran starts on Monday, 12 April.

    1. Ramadan is when Muslims assemble with their friends and families to celebrate.

      As mosques were never closed by Boris, it would appear very unlikely that he would forbid Muslim family gatherings.

        1. Johnson’s stormtroopers enforce their own law on Good Friday worshippers. 5 April 2021.

          The right to worship is inalienable. Under the old English Common Law, a criminal who took refuge in a church could not be removed by the forces of the state. This was based on the idea, as English legal historian Ben Darlow has put it, ‘that no force could be used on the consecrated and holy ground of the churches’. What a searing incongruity it is to see such hallowed traditions monstrously profaned in a Western democracy.

          “Right to worship?” “Western Democracy?” I’m afraid those things have gone my friend!

          https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/johnsons-stormtroopers-enforce-their-own-law-on-good-friday-worshippers/

        2. Johnson’s stormtroopers enforce their own law on Good Friday worshippers. 5 April 2021.

          The right to worship is inalienable. Under the old English Common Law, a criminal who took refuge in a church could not be removed by the forces of the state. This was based on the idea, as English legal historian Ben Darlow has put it, ‘that no force could be used on the consecrated and holy ground of the churches’. What a searing incongruity it is to see such hallowed traditions monstrously profaned in a Western democracy.

          “Right to worship?” “Western Democracy?” I’m afraid those things have gone my friend!

          https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/johnsons-stormtroopers-enforce-their-own-law-on-good-friday-worshippers/

      2. I heard from a friend in West Yorkshire that a relative who worked in M&S in West Yorkshire caught Covid. She told him that the Muslim families entered the shop in numbers in excess of allowed with no social distancing. The Company was frightened to report this because of the risk of being stigmatised as racist. I expect that was the case in many other stores in England. The relative resigned from her M&S job.

        1. Many other stores and many other stories. Why were the Muslim rapes of underage white girls hushed up?

      3. But Boris Johnson is certainly not a Christian. His family tree, posted above by our friend HONDA 1234, suggests that he is probably a Muslim if he believes in anything.

        1. “The EU is our friend”
          “The war will be over by Christmas”
          “The cheque is in the post”
          “Yes, I am a real Nigerian prince”
          “Of course I’ll respect you in the morning”
          etc, etc…

        2. They are so inherently sheep-like that they will already have forgotten it, and be believing the government that only vax passports will save us!

    1. We had a light, ephemeral, sprinkling early this morning with a bit more to come at teatime.

      1. Rain here in Finland today and most of the week…good for washing the snow away.

  25. So, the DT has an article on us all having 2 free lateral flow tests, paid for by the government. No, the government isn’t paying; we, the taxpayers are. Is there no end to our money that this government will piss up the wall on useless ideas?

    1. It’s 2 LFT tests weekly and if you want to do it at home the tests will be sent to you. The intention is to spot a new outbreak early, no doubt with consequences. For some reason our medical masters don’t trust the vaccines. It is more expense for the taxpayer.

    2. Remember 09 January 1799, PM William Pitt the Younger introduced Wealth [Income] Tax measure to help cover the cost of war with Napoleon. Nothing’s changed otherwise, the Government would’ve run out of piss and need a new wall / idea

    3. Remember 09 January 1799, PM William Pitt the Younger introduced Wealth [Income] Tax measure to help cover the cost of war with Napoleon. Nothing’s changed otherwise, the Government would’ve run out of piss and need a new wall / idea

    4. The Sunday Times claims that Mr Hancock awarded a £14.4 million contract to his lady friend.

        1. I look forward to reading about it in the MSM.

          I look forward to reading..

          I look forward..

          I look..?

    1. You may not like it, but language changes.
      Most people know what is being referred to.

        1. I think you, and most other sensible commentators, would agree, Billy.

          The English language is not ‘changing’, it is deteriorating. The once-celebrated discourse of Dickens, Austen and Forster (among others of esteem) has now deteriorated to nothing better than grunting.

          1. It is changing, constantly, new words are added obsolete words are dropped from every day usage.

            Unfortunately, only sensible commentators can see that and accept new standards and meanings.

          3. It is changing, constantly, new words are added obsolete words are dropped from every day usage.

            Unfortunately, only sensible commentators can see that and accept new standards and meanings.

      2. Just because we understand American English does not mean we have to speak it. “Train stations” grates on me, I am not sure why. Perhaps because “train” is one of those words with many meanings, and therefore using it all over the place makes the language less precise and harder to understand, especially for non-native speakers.

        1. That is your choice.

          Most people know what is meant by train station.

          What do you call that procession of carriages, if not a train?

          Where does the train stop en route if not at a station?

          3. Easy, trains stop at railway stations!

            I understand many phrases in US English that I would never use myself.

          4. I would suggest that 90+% would say they stopped at a station and that “railway” is superfluous.

        2. As a child, ‘station’ implied the location where you embarked and disembarked from a train. So ‘train station’ sounds like overkill, tautologous. However, on life’s journey one comes across the hi-jacked use of ‘station’ for ‘ski-station’, ‘work station’ – I am sure there are others. So in order to differentiate, I suppose younger generations automatically brought into being ‘train station’. I understand, it grates on me, too.

          1. “The train station is where the train stops.
            The bus station is where the bus stops.
            On my desk, I have a work station…”

    2. But we have “bus stations” not “road stations”. Our language can be a bit perverse!

        1. It’s rare to hear “terminus” nowadays, they are nearly all “stations” – even Victoria Coach Station. Following the logic of “bus stops”, perhaps we should refer to railway stations as “train stops”? There are a few “halts” of course which I suppose is similar.
          Edited for typo

        2. It’s rare to hear “terminus” nowadays, they are nearly all “stations” – even Victoria Coach Station. Following the logic of “bus stops”, perhaps we should refer to railway stations as “train stops”? There are a few “halts” of course which I suppose is similar.
          Edited for typo

    3. Morning, Grizz!
      Train station is more logical, after all, as it’s there you station your train. There are bus stations for buses, ambulance stations for, well, ambulances, and police staions for police. They aren’t named after the permanent way, so road stations or law stations… (BTW, for the last, there are a lot of small Chokey in Mumbai…)
      Where fire stations come in this, I’m not sure. Fire Engine stations, maybe?
      EDIT: Punctuation

      1. We’ll need to rename a lot of companies.

        NetworkTrain, TrainTrack, BritishTrain then there are all those Train Hotels, The Train Children.

        Large sums of wonga for printers and designers.

      2. Morning, Paul.

        A railway station is a station along a railway line and has been a traditional description in the UK since the advent of railways. If we are now going to adopt a silly Americanism in its place then why don’t we go all the way and adopt Americanese instead of Standard English. We can all then grunt along together in imbecilic fashion like they do “over the pond”.

        1. yall gotta lern dat init wont change langwidge cos mericans fink dis is how to spel da werds and dont now diffrunt cos dey is dum and speek da fonik innit bruv.

          Dear life, that was hard to write.

        2. Unfortunately, I live in a world of Norwegian & Merkin, so to get comprehension first time, one has to adopt Merkin – except for a few cases where the interlocutor has a degree or worked in the UK.

    1. Moh decided it would be a good idea to have a DNA test … as a birthday present .. for me .

      He and I did our spittle bit and sent the kits off last week . It was quite hard work filling up the little container provided .

      He has always wondered whether he has Norman ancestry and more !

      Has any one on here had surprises?

        1. If I could just say this that I would find the prospect of a grunting sweaty clumsy drooling gropey Johnson crawling all over me ( had I been younger , fecund and flirty ) the stuff of nightmares .

          I cannot imagine how women find him so attractive .. unless he flatters and cajoles and pretends he CANNOT be aroused .. the oldest trick in the book!

          1. Money…

            And in the case of Princess nut nut…it’s an assignment to turn him into a jolly green giant.

            She’ll no doubt leg it when he’s turfed out of office which could be as early as this summer.

          2. Money…

            And in the case of Princess nut nut…it’s an assignment to turn him into a jolly green giant.

            She’ll no doubt leg it when he’s turfed out of office which could be as early as this summer.

          3. Good morning, Maggiebelle

            I cannot understand how self-respecting women let him anywhere near them. He is disgustingly repulsive physically and mentally.

            (Of course women have always found me irresistibly attractive but that is understandable!)

        2. If I could just say this that I would find the prospect of a grunting sweaty clumsy drooling gropey Johnson crawling all over me ( had I been younger , fecund and flirty ) the stuff of nightmares .

          I cannot imagine how women find him so attractive .. unless he flatters and cajoles and pretends he CANNOT be aroused .. the oldest trick in the book!

      2. I was very unsurprised, Belle, that I am at least 93% English with, maybe, a bit of Celtic and Norwegian blood.

        In the accompanying blurb it does say between 88 – 100% English.

      3. I havent done one because my sister already has and I would prefer not to have any surprises.

        Friend of my mother did one and it pitched up genes front St Lucia!

    2. 331178+ up ticks,
      Morning H,
      Gettaway, you mean johnson aka the turkish delight, amnesties R me, born in NY USA , that johnson ?

    3. Of course it would be good to have an archbishop of Canterbury who is a Christian but is it not high time we had a genuinely Christian prime minister? Cameron and May may have been nominally Christian but they were spiritually of the Devil’s party; Brown was anally introverted, Blair probably did more than anyone in our history to destroy Christianity and Major was an adulterous hypocrite.

        1. Whoever heard her confession should have asked if there was a point where she would stop and start doing the right thing.

    1. Grizzly morning. I’ve never even heard of this guy, who is he? And why has he got a jelly tot on his head, is this UK’s latest fashion statement?

      1. He’s a ‘comedian’ making a lot of money out of the BBC programme ‘Citizen Khan’, a ‘comedy’ sitcom that revels in insulting stereotypes of Pakistani/Bangladeshi Muslims living here. Whilst it’s a horrible and unfunny programme it has a prime time slot on the BBC, presumably for its treasured ‘diversity’. If any White person produced anything remotely like it then they’d be ‘cancelled’ on the spot for racism, Islamophobia and any buzzword the PC brownshirts can come up with. The double standards and hypocrisy stink.

        1. thanks for taking time to give me that update, no wonder I’ve never heard of him. So in essence, he’ll now appear on ITV to reduce the audience but increase TV Ad revenue

          2. ♬…But while there’s moonlight
            And music and love and romance
            Let’s face the music and dance.            ♬

    3. When the viewing figures continue to plummet I wonder if they will wonder why?

    4. When the viewing figures continue to plummet I wonder if they will wonder why?

  30. Windswept moors that inspired Bronte sisters’ Wuthering Heights and Jane Eyre will be covered by sprawling housing estate if council gets its way. 5 April 2021.

    Author and resident Michael Stewart, 50, said: ‘The view will be completely destroyed.

    ‘Instead of walking across beautiful fields with unspoiled views of the valley beyond you will be walking in the shadow of walls, fences, and the backs of houses.

    ‘It is very odd because there are council signs everywhere saying “Bronte Country” so even entertaining the idea does not make any sense.

    ‘This will be devastating not just for the culture of Bradford but the economy as well.’

    Mr Stewart, who lives in Thornton, added: ‘The Brontës are our biggest literary export after Shakespeare, and Dickens. They’re loved all over the world.

    This is a pointer to the future; a toe in the water, you can see it with HSR as well. Not only are we to be erased but our culture as well. The Borg are determined to wipe us from the pages of History and Memory itself. Like the Hittites and the Maya we are to vanish from human ken!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9436041/Bronte-fans-furious-housing-estate-plan-Wuthering-Heights-moors.html

    1. Wuthering Heights have n’owt to do with the Brontes. It’s that Kate Bush that made them famous!

      1. HSR is an unnecessary construction, a blight built across swathes of English Countryside!

      2. Used to be called HS2, but people started to realise it was an EU project so…. marketing.

    3. If they’re putting it up for discussion then the council has already made it’s mind up.

      Most likely it’s looking at the house building targets and central government cash, not to mention soaking up lots more council tax.

      The only way to stop it now is to show conflict of interest – there’s always conflict, councillors and council management are corrupt, on the take scum – and prevent it that way.

  31. 331178+ up ticks,
    Morning Each,
    It does come across to me that this tory (ino) party is acting as one BIG drag anchor and has done so openly since the 24/6/2016.

    We should, since the above date be running free as a peoples & nation but we are further from it now than we were prior to the 24/6/2016.

    These renegade politico’s are, via the mock opposition game keeping ANY
    lookalike opposition in house ( lab/lib/con) close shop.

    You want more of the same make certain you support ANY of the coalition
    ( lab/lib/con ) party candidates on the 6th May do your bit to bring about the FINAL SOLUTION.

    2. Xxxxxx+ upticks
      Ino in every post

      We get it ogga. Save yourself some pixels

      1. 331178+ up ticks,
        Morning SindC,
        Thank you but do not worry about my pixels, please, everything is fine in the pixel department.

        “We” get it I would beg to differ in the nicest possible way, as in
        many “get” it but refuse to acknowledge it,and vote accordingly.

  32. Apropos that “mini-Messiah” on Saturday. The Times reviewer obvious read my mind very well:

    “Handel’s Messiah
    BBC Two
    ★★☆☆☆

    This was a travesty. There’s no other word for it, though harsher critics might prefer to say disgrace. I suppose we should be grateful that BBC2 cleared even an hour of its precious schedule on Easter weekend to screen Handel’s Messiah performed by English National Opera in an empty London Coliseum. The trouble is, Messiah performed with even the usual cuts runs to nearly three hours.

    What ENO gave us here was not even the highlights. Of the 53 choruses, recitatives and arias in Messiah, 39 were dumped completely, and some of the survivors chopped in their prime. ENO’s chorus, spread across the stalls and lit from below like zombie extras in Night of the Living Dead, were particularly badly deprived. Of the 20 choruses Handel wrote, they were allowed to sing only five. And that selection didn’t include any of the twisty, exhilarating numbers that really put a choir through its paces.

    As for Messiah’s narrative arc, that was smashed to incoherent smithereens. Jesus was apparently foretold by Isaiah but not actually born. In this truncated version he didn’t die either, which I suppose made resurrection easier. Atheists might have approved; those turning to the programme for a bit of Holy Week profundity would have been grossly disappointed.

    What chiefly irked me was the subterfuge. Nowhere in the BBC’s publicity did anyone admit that this was just a taster of the real thing. Nor did any of the soloists interviewed beforehand (eating into the precious hour), nor the two highly musical presenters. It was as if everyone was under oath not to mention the elephant excluded from the room. What a failure of corporate nerve on the part of the BBC and ENO.

    Apart from all that, Mrs Lincoln, how did you enjoy the show? Well, Laurence Cummings is an experienced Handel conductor, and ENO’s orchestra played neatly and stylishly. The chorus singing in “Behold, the Lamb of God” sounded like something out of the 1950s using an edition from the 1850s, but I enjoyed the weight of the voices in “Worthy is the Lamb” and “Hallelujah”.

    And although none of the eight (yes, eight) soloists was allowed more than a cough and a spit, there was much to admire from them.

    Iestyn Davies and Christine Rice are well-known delights, but of the rising stars I was particularly struck by Nadine Benjamin and the remarkable young bass William Thomas. Yet he had no sooner worked up some steam in “Why do the Nations?” than he was shunted on to the alternative shorter ending, presumably by a worried BBC producer with a stopwatch.”

    For the avoidance of doubt, the “remarkable young bass” was NOT me!!

      1. You are asking for a thread of fish puns – but just thank Cod that I won’t be tempted.

        1. It’s an elver temptation but I’ll resist it and just skate over this thread.

    2. We like sheep, we like sheep, we like sheep.

      (We like ’em, like ’em, like ’em)

      We have a glorious recording of the work conducted by Sir Thomas Beecham which we play frequently each year.

      1. Having sung it dozens of times and listened to it – literally – hundreds of times – I was shocked at the event. It was rather a “Messiah’s greatest hits”

  33. Good morning, my friends

    At last we have a week in which we shall earn some money – but not really enough to keep us going for the whole year!

    Caroline has just started a Zoom French class on her computer with four Sixth Form girls from England. Our Easter internet courses went well last year but it is not quite the same as having students physically with us.

    Last year internet learning was novel and interesting but after a year of it at school young people are getting fed up with it. Last summer holidays we ran 5 weeks of courses with students actually with us – it is still not clear if we shall be able to do so again this summer and it has been very difficult to recruit students.

    2. Fingers crossed. The MR is doing online tuition with a child in Switzerland. And will be doing a week’s online IB coaching course in a few weeks.

      She loves it – given that real life face to face is impossible – but finds it TERRIBLY tiring.

      1. Caroline is brilliant at it and all our online students wish to come in person if they can do so. Unfortunately tempus fugit and by the time all the Covid restrictions have been lifted they will no longer be at school

    3. Fingers crossed. The MR is doing online tuition with a child in Switzerland. And will be doing a week’s online IB coaching course in a few weeks.

      She loves it – given that real life face to face is impossible – but finds it TERRIBLY tiring.

  34. 331178+ up ticks,
    When it comes into being as it surely must the peoples reset must, as a countermeasure call for BIGGER LOGS & BIGGER LOG BURNING STOVES, coupled with johnson getting a new squeeze as the current pillow whisperer is running out of control.

    Dt,
    Home radiators will have to be 10 degrees cooler for Britain to reach climate targets
    The Government has said it wants hundreds of thousands of heat pumps to replace gas boilers

    1. Tell you what. MPs should set the example. The House of Commons and their own private residences should never be higher than 15’c. Should they be, they are charged £100 per degree, per day which they pay personally.

  35. 331178+ up ticks,
    When it comes into being as it surely must the peoples reset must, as a countermeasure call for BIGGER LOGS & BIGGER LOG BURNING STOVES, coupled with johnson getting a new squeeze as the current pillow whisperer is running out of control.

    Dt,
    Home radiators will have to be 10 degrees cooler for Britain to reach climate targets
    The Government has said it wants hundreds of thousands of heat pumps to replace gas boilers

  41. 331178+ up ticks,
    May one say,
    Seems like crunch time is getting near when we either give the voting pattern a serious coating of looking at or submit to the overseers intended
    menu of goodies.

    They, the political overseers are not going to stop, the DOVER replacement campaign shows that quite clearly, these carpetbagging, rubber stamping,
    phony conservatives MUST be stopped.

  43. Bloody Hell! That got a bit cold on the fingers!
    Just been to Cromford & back for the paper and despite wearing insulated gloves, my fingers felt like icicles when I got home!
    Still managed to get a couple of decent logs moved for picking up once the van has it’s new gearbox and a couple more carried up home.

    Mug of tea on to warm my fingers up.

    1. Creepy AF. Like glancing behind the door and discovering another patch of Japanese Knotweed.

  47. In the heat of the culture wars we have lost our moral compass
    Our institutions now view every problem in Britain through the same lens as the radical Left

    NICK TIMOTHY : https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/04/heat-culture-wars-have-lost-moral-compass/

    This is quite an interesting article and I agree with much of what is said which is a surprise!

    A BTL Comment in reply to a poster who wanted the return of Nigel Farage:

    Much as I like Nigel Farage he always collapses at the critical moment.

    He left UKIP after the referendum but before Brexit was achieved.

    He withdrew candidates from his Brexit Party in the last election in seats where remainer Conservatives were the sitting MPs.

    He endorsed a truly terrible “deal” that surrendered on financial services, Northern Ireland and British fishing waters.

    And now he says he has resigned from politics as his job is done when the truth of the matter is that it is very far from done.

    I cannot deny that Nigel Farage is a likeable chap – but he lacks testicular strength when the chips are down.

      1. If you’re an Irishman, living in Finland – as you’ve said – why did you join UKIP in the first place?

      2. I volunteered but quit when I could no linger avoid seeing the utter disorganisation and chaos that was their “organisation” – everybody did their own thing, no direction or discipline.
        I have a busy enough life without wasting my time on that shit.

    2. If one was having sex with Farage, you could say that he practices the withdrawal method, or has a case of premature ejaculation.
      Sorry – my mind won’t erase that image.

    3. If it wasn’t for Nige we would still be faffing around with a collapsing EU in the heat of a Corona Virus pandemic …….without any vaccines.

  48. Yo All

    Passports for Covid

    Besides me, are there any other Bolshie Booggers who will demand to see the Passport of the person

    1. Checking passports at the door
    2. serving drinks
    3. Clearing tables
    4. Cooking your food
    5 Taxi-ing you about
    6. Policeman arresting you
    7 Bus driver
    8. Medical staff
    9 TV Licence checker

    etc. Goose and Gander come to mind

  49. Yo All

    Passports for Covid

    Besides me, are there any other Bolshie Booggers who will demand to see the Passport of the person

    1. Checking passports at the door
    2. serving drinks
    3. Clearing tables
    4. Cooking your food
    5 Taxi-ing you about
    6. Policeman arresting you
    7 Bus driver
    8. Medical staff
    9 TV Licence checker

    etc. Goose and Gander come to mind

  50. Vegans are well known for telling everyone that they are vegans. But it seems that those who have been vaccinated against Covid-19 are also proudly telling everyone that they have had the jab!

    Well, I have had the jab! But I guarantee that, out of approximately 68 million British people, I am the only one who has had the jab in Tunisia. Not only that, but as I was waiting, along with many others, a TV crew turned up and made straight for me. I was the only foreigner there and I am taller than most people so I was quite conspicuous. They interviewed me for the main national evening news broadcast. They started by asking where I am from. I said that I am English from Great Britain. I always say this because so many people do not seem to be aware that all English are British but not all Britons are English! I was also asked if I would like to be interviewed in English, French or Arabic. I felt bound, out of courtesy, to choose Arabic which I speak in a mixture of dialects, mostly Egyptian. Fortunately I got through the interview without making a total fool of myself but that is for others to decide!

    The news broadcast mentioned several times that the vaccine, Pfizer, came from the UK, which, I am pleased to say, is always well thought of here despite Tunisia being a Francophone country. The Queen has visited Tunisia twice and she is very highly regarded.

        1. Thank you. I wish I could congratulate you in Arabic – but, alas, mine is limited to very rude words learned in Ismailia in 1949!

          1. I don’t deserve to be congratulated, but I can swear like a trooper in Arabic! I also know some very rude Arabic jokes here is one of the more polite (Tunisian) ones:

            A young man was crazy about women and he visited the local brothel every single day. It cost him 7 dinars each time. Finally, he got married. During his first night in bed with his new wife, he forgot where he was and thought he was back in the brothel, so he handed her a 10 dinar note. But she gave him 3 dinars change!

          2. Offshore Tunisia, the TV room showed Tunisian porn… the women all had veils, the only parts of their bodies that were covered…
            (What kind of emoticon goes with that statement, I wonder?)

          3. Did your beat in the ME include Jordan – or is that too far east?

            I wonder what your take is on the peculiar story from Jordan today about a place “coup”.

          4. Yes, I have been to Jordan many times. In fact I have visited every one of the 22 countries in the Arab League except for Somalia and the Comoros.

            One of the problems in Jordan is the strength of that malevolent organisation, the Muslim Brotherhood. I wondered if Prince Hamza was under the influence of those people, who might be trying to undermine the state in favour of a strict Islamic regime.

          5. Thank you. If the MB has inveigled Hamza – with the false pretext that, after their takeover, he can be a puppet ruler – that is very bad news. And I can understand why Abdullah – who has lots of other problems on his plate, is taking action.

          6. Yes, I have been to Jordan many times. In fact I have visited every one of the 22 countries in the Arab League except for Somalia and the Comoros.

            One of the problems in Jordan is the strength of that malevolent organisation, the Muslim Brotherhood. I wondered if Prince Hamza was under the influence of those people, who might be trying to undermine the state in favour of a strict Islamic regime.

    2. I worked on a contract early 1990s in Tunisia, for SEREPT. Never been back, unfortunately, but I thought it was an excellent country, my favourite in North Africa. Much had to go in French when discussing with blue-collar staff (it’s amazing how the ancient and unused French came back – halfway down the sentence, wondering what the word for *** was, and it fell out of my mouth, complete and unbroken! I never learned French enough at school and early adult life to conduct crane certification tests, but it seemed to work – and the white collar staff were very well educated, often with 4+ languages – Arabic, Berber, French, English, often German too.
      Excellent food, good local wine, sunshine… Islamic, not not rabidly so, a great country.
      I hadn’t been in Africa since I left Nigeria aged 16, and the smell and humidity when I got off the aircraft in Tunis took me instantly back to my childhood. Sighs wistfully…

      1. Isn’t there a place somewhere where the Duke of Edinburgh is worshipped as a god?

  51. Tonight on the Freesat Channel 305 at 10.00 pm BST Edward Fox (aka The Jackal) will have another crack at it. Will he finally succeed this time?

    1. For peace of mind, perhaps.

      But will it be accepted by third parties in the way that a vaccination certificate would be?

      If not, it looks like an expensive exercise with little outward benefit.

    2. Morning Sue and everyone.

      What does the test tell you, what’s it for? On the DT it said BPAPM is “urging the public” to take 2 free tests per week . Whatever for? So this “Covid” disease is so deadly that you need to take a test twice a week to find out if you have it or have had it? It is utterly ridiculous and laughable. What a waste of our money. And now younger people are being “offered” one vaccine to bribe them so that they can travel abroad. We have to stop this nonsense somehow. It’s unbelievable how the control of the public is being strengthened every which way.

      ETA: I suppose people could get a couple of these “free” tests, take them to the airport and bingo. No £95 expense.

      1. I think it genuinely tells you whether you have t-cell immunity but as Sos says below, whether that will be accepted by third parties is another issue.

        1. It would be quite interesting to know, though the information might be out of date when the next normal mutation does the rounds, like flu.

          3. Mike Yeadon was interesting on mutations. I’ll see if I can find it…..

            Oh, Bob3 posted it last week.
            “This will cheer you up
            https://delingpole.podbean….
            Delingpole and Yeadon”

            Government scare tactic (what else should we expect) – only 2 or 3 per cent different from the original and your immune system will easily recognise it. Even at 20 – 50 per cent difference your body will recognise it and do its job.

            Edit : I can’t get it to do the link stuff. Try delingpole.podbean.com in your browser.

          4. I listened to it a few days ago, and yes, you are right. I’m not actually bothered about mutations, because they will tend to become less severe – unless Gert vanden Bossche’s guess about vaccinated bodies harbouring and passing on worse mutations that would have died out if humans hadn’t meddled, comes true.

          5. Hi BB2 (OT): about George Carey’s letter and your post on Sunday morning (which I’ve just read), and my NTTL post today, I sincerely hope that you are NEVER in the position of having a lovely 80-year-old wife (wed 56 years ago next Monday) who knows what it’s like NOW with Lewy Body Dementia and just wants to GO, but nobody can do anything for her, except say: “Just hang in there for maybe 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 years, on top of the ones you’ve just enjoyed“.

          6. Hi BB2 (OT): about George Carey’s letter and your post on Sunday morning (which I’ve just read), and my NTTL post today, I sincerely hope that you are NEVER in the position of having a lovely 80-year-old wife (wed 56 years ago next Monday) who knows what it’s like NOW with Lewy Body Dementia and just wants to GO, but nobody can do anything for her, except say: “Just hang in there for maybe 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 years, on top of the ones you’ve just enjoyed“.

        2. But T-cell immunity from what, everything? Or just coronavirus?

          ETA: The Public is being manipulated into accepting random testing, when there is no need, and then random injections, also with no need. It is all so that we become used to the government controlling our health instead of us deciding for ourselves. They just want people to get used to taking this drug or that drug when and where they want us to. Lots more lolly for those in the know. Complete control of our lives.

          1. Theoretically SARS-CoV-2 but it must surely just be coronavirus, since SARS-CoV-2 has never been isolated and proven to exist.

    3. What I don’t understand is that the NHS medicos are not obliged to take or reveal their HIV tests or tests for hepatitis ..

      NHS staff are probably riddled with infectious diseases .. as has now been proved by patients catching Covid 19 whilst in hospital for other reasons!

  53. Decades of persecution has left the Shia minority with little space left in its graveyards but prime minister Imran Khan is in no hurry to listen

    Global development is supported by
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    Shah Meer Baloch in Quetta
    Mon 5 Apr 2021 06.30 BST

    45
    Ahmed Shah had always dreamed of bigger things. Though just 17, the high school pupil had taken a job in the coalmines of Balochistan, Pakistan’s south-western province, one of the harshest, most dangerous working environments in the world. Shah was determined to earn enough to educate himself, so he could escape the tough life of the Hazara Shia community, the most persecuted minority in Pakistan.

    In Pakistan, tolerant Islamic voices are being silenced
    William Dalrymple
    Read more
    But Shah never saw a brighter future. He was among 10 miners who were resting in their mud hut near the mines in the small Balochistan town of Mach when armed militants burst in. A gruesome video from the scene shows the young men blindfolded, with their hands tied behind their backs. A security official said their throats had been slit. Islamic State claimed responsibility for the massacre.

    The prime minister, Imran Khan, called it an “inhumane act of terrorism”, but for the Hazara, minority Shia Muslims who have been targeted for three decades in Pakistan by extremists among the majority Sunni Muslims who view them as heretics, this was not enough.

    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/apr/05/mass-graves-pakistan-shia-minority-hazara-slaughter-imran-khan

    What variety of Muslim did we witness creating diversions and noise in Batley .. Who are they .. are they Sunni Muslims , and should we be told ?

    1. He was among 10 miners who were resting in their mud hut near the mines in the small Balochistan town of Mach when armed militants burst in.

      The things that are to be in the UK!

        1. That information was based on the 2001 Census and is therefore 20 years out of date.

        1. Not enough feathers for markings but probably…they are often slow to take off when cars are heading their way although this one is a chick and either walked into the road or a crow had a go at it.

          Could be a runt and discarded by the parents…law of the jungle.

          1. I think it was plucked from the nest as far too young to fly. The flight feathers are not fully developed.

          2. A crow or magpie would attack it for food so perhaps the runt of the family. Only one or two wild birds per nest ever make it from the egg to maturity.

  57. ‘Morning All
    Off for a boozy brunch with Sister followed by a roast washed down with red medicine
    Nice to eat someone elses cooking

    May drop in later sobriety permitting

  58. The Daily Mail is rather more prepared to publish these stories and allow readers to comment on them than the Daily Telegraph!

    Rochdale grooming gang ringleader, 51, is seen shopping in the town where he abused young girls – six years after he was meant to have been deported to Pakistan
    Abdul Rauf was jailed for six years for role in Rochdale child sex trafficking ring
    In 2015, Rauf, 51, and two others were told by the Home Office they would be stripped of citizenship and were going to be deported after convictions in 2012
    However, six years later, Rauf has been spotted shopping for food in Rochdale

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9435773/Grooming-gang-leader-spotted-shopping-Rochdale-abused-children.html

    1. 331178+ up ticks,
      R,
      An in your face case of “Lest we forget” being forgot,
      courtesy of the lab/lib/con coalition & the three monkey input.

    2. We used to send Crusaders to remove muslim invaders from places like the Middle East. We seem now to need Crusaders in our native land.

  60. The right to Die

    I was surprised but delighted by yesterday’s ST letter from Rabbi Dr Jonathan Romain and Lord Carey of Clifton (Archbishop of Canterbury, 1991-2002) proposing that the Government support the right to die, assisted (with strong safeguards) by medical practitioners.

    Those of us who have a wife/husband/partner with progressive and incurable dementias are looking forward (wrong expression) to single, then double incontinence, loss of speech and then recognition of partner, then loss of swallowing ability, a slow and miserable death which is probably more agonising for the supporting partner.

    The dementia sufferer, in the early days post diagnosis, is aware of this future path as a concept, but it takes a year or so for these losses of function to really bite. Then come the endless days, loss of ability to play her beloved Bridge, meet socially with U3A, women’s graduate and charity groups, all the activities that make retirement pleasant and meaningful.

    But since dementias are not classed as terminal (hang on – Living is terminal, isn’t it?) there is no provision in Palliative Care, i.e. Hospices, for ‘simple’ dementia patients. If they have had enough and just want to ‘go’, the most they can do in UK is get a DNACPR (Do Not Attempt Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation) form, which both of us have obtained after consultation with our respective doctors.

    The Catholic Church has always opposed this idea, arguing that ‘suffering makes one stronger’ (rubbish!) and that only God is allowed to take away life.

    Yet following the forecasted ratification, this spring Spain (a strongly Catholic country) will become the sixth country worldwide to acknowledge the right to an assisted death, after the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Canada, and New Zealand. Switzerland permits assisted suicide for “unselfish reasons.” Several US states also allow assisted dying.

    The Spanish decision makes it legal for people to cause or help cause the “reliable, peaceful, painless death” of those suffering terminal illness or difficult to endure ailments if they “specifically, freely and unequivocally” ask for it (my italics).

    Please, please Legislators, get on and pass the tightly-controlled permissions that other, more humane countries and states have put in place.

    1. I sympathise with this call but am also very wary of it.

      The abortion laws started of the same with 2 doctors required to examine and confirm the course of action. I now understand that forms are, almost, pre signed and as such the safeguards are gone.

      I am not a religious person.

      1. There shouldn’t be a requirement for two doctors’ signatures anyway, not even one.

        1. Hello Stormy

          In which case petition parliament through your MP. With contraception freely available there were in excess of 223,000 abortions in UK in 2019.
          There is a growing thought that we can recognise only the laws we like and ignore those we don’t. A sure way to anarchy.
          I am not against abortion but i do believe there should be checks and controls otherwise I’m sure there can be psychological damage.

    2. ‘suffering makes one stronger’ – as in, what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger? But there are many things that kill you, and it doesn’t make you stronger, it makes you suffer unbelievable pain that you just can’t escape, because it’s inside you and won’t go away. Then you get some asshole being worried that you’ll become addicted to opiates (No chance, mate, I’m dying) so won’t dose you properly.
      Since people don’t understand until they experience, I’d be quite happy to clamp those folk’s balls in a vice, and give it a small tighten every so often, just so they experience the unremitting hurt that won’t go away.
      Rant over.
      Father was helped on his way at the end, thank God, by the staff at the hospice.
      Part 2: I also feel that it is unfair to others to aske them to kill you, so you should be so equipped to do it yourself, at a time of your choosing. Preferably tidily, as it’s nasty enough to have to clear up after a dead person as it is.

      1. ‘Dignified Dying’ by Boudewijn Chabot contains a pretty detailed analysis of the different methods of ending your own life without assistance (if you are still able enough).

        1. Hopefully in a reasonably pleasant manner – I have guns of all kinds, but imagine what it would be like for the family to come home & find the inside of my head sprayed all over the hallway? That would be a mean act of the first water.

      2. I remember when I had back surgery there was a device by my bed that I could use to give myself an IV dose of morphine. It cut off after four doses. Couldn’t something similar be rigged up but without the limiter?

    3. This is such a double edged sword. We have seen so many people succumb to dementia; a frequent comment when I worked on psycho-geriatric wards was “We’d be prosecuted of we allowed a pet to reach such a stage”.
      At the moment, I am watching Elderly Chum go down that very same path.
      However, I have also seen families or other potential beneficiaries use these situations.
      Particularly during the C20 we learnt that the involvement of legalism is a very slippery slope. We have had this lesson reinforced in spades over the past year with the blatant manipulation of the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984.

      1. It will inevitably be extended, just as abortion has been. It’s the thin end of the wedge. I’m in the situation of watching my spouse deteriorate, but I still don’t agree with euthanasia.

    4. As you chose to reply to me personally, I can only say that I am very sorry for your situation, as I am also very sorry for all the disabled and elderly people who will be sped on their way when euthanasia becomes the cheapest solution available to the NHS.

  62. Is the tail about to throttle the head of the snake…

    We’ve all seen the rise of the kill the bill protests which begun with peaceful citizens joined by the usual thugs. Saturday’s events across the country were joined by left leaning and green activists including BLM supporters and Extinction Rebellion.

    Their joint target is left leaning greenie Johnson who we’d all like to see the back of.

    Is this a case of poetic justice as the left turn on their own?

    2. ‘Biles ma pish’ every time I watch that, Anne. How dare those two polis desecrate the sanctuary, wandering about to make phone calls. They show no respect whatsoever to the sanctity of the place in which they are.

      1. Their actions reveal their thoughts.
        They have no respect for the sanctuary, or any kind of religious ground. Ignorant, or insolent? Many years ago (1980s), SWMBO took a mixed class of darker-skinned kids to St Pauls in London, and they ran around shrieking until she stopped them and told them that they were in a place of worship, as a temple or a mosque. They immediately became still and respectful of the church. I guess nobody had explained before.

      2. The insolence of office.

        (A writer of whom I rather approve gave this phrase to a character in one of his plays.)

      3. 331178+ up ticks,
        Afternoon DM,
        They are operating as with the governance overseers with the people’s CONSENT.

        Ian Tomlinson died under a truncheon things have NOT improved since, only got worse.

      4. As an ex-Catholic atheist, even I was outraged at their disrespectful attitude. Standing on the sanctuary with arms folded in what looks like a very confrontational stance.
        Two of my elderly sisters are in a retirement home run by the church. Many residents are retired priests and many staff are nuns. When I visit, I always address them as “Father” or “Sister”. It’s simply a matter of courtesy.

    3. Now, if they been slammers, more worshippers would have been bussed in by Dick’s girls, boys and whatevers

    4. Of course I lost my right to vote in Britain thanks to Mr Blair disenfranchising me.

      But where can you go now? Our friend ogga frequently points out that by voting Lib/Lab/Con we are perpetuating the problem.

      The only answer, which is hardly a solution, is to record that you wish to vote but that you have decided to spoil your ballot paper.

      But until NOTA (None Of The Above) votes are taken into account nothing will be achieved

      1. Yo mr t

        Please realise, that Mr Rashid controls voting in UK (and other places): until you are on his team, voting is pointless

      2. 331178+ up ticks,
        Afternoon R,
        The facts MUST be faced that to vote for another party other than the lab/lib/con coalition would seem treacherous to a great many whom see it as a family tree vote.
        Can you honestly see Tommy Atkins marching of to war knowing he had the backing of today’s politico’s ( the honorable 650 ) behind him ?

        You will NEVER be given another option I know it will shake many to the very roots of their very cosy voting pattern but you MUST
        make / take other options.

        Try something completely different give the likes of Anne Marie Waters the same backing
        STILL given to mass uncontrolled immigration / paedophile umbrella ongoing, parties, let JUST FOR ONCE the Country overall benefit.

        If NO benefit then revert back to the same voting pattern as happened post referendum
        That was a major success in failures.

    5. Coupled with arrogant way that they marched up beyond the altar rails, shews the thuggish behaviour of the police, yet again.

  65. In the Telegraph there is an article concerning “Lack of Diversity” in British Cycling. Written by one Kadeena Cox, a cyclist of colour, who has started her KC Academy to “increase diversity in British Cycling”
    The article goes on to explain –

    “In her initial academy intake, she has four young black cyclists with aspirations – and potential – to represent Britain at the highest level”.
    DIVERSITY . . . four young black cyclists . . .? ?

    1. 4 out of how many?
      Blacks make excellent power athletes (spring), not so good typically at long-range stuff, but maybe East Africans can do that?
      I’d expect that they have some kind of audition / performace test.

    2. There was a similar article about “aquaphobia” amongst blacks, which is why one sees so few black swimmers competing.

        1. I wondered that when I read the article, rather as most people instinctively flinch if they see a snake in the wild.

        2. You’d think that advantage would make blacks Olympic standard freestylers.

    4. Success in cycling is based on merit. We can all see who crosses the finish line and in what order they finish. There are one or two black cyclists in top level teams. Cycling has always been an open sport up to a point. Generally the Continental riders were the best*. There was, and is, a racing cycling culture. It is only in the last few decades that British cyclists have made much of an impression. Of course, there were exceptions, Reg Harris, Tom Simpson, Robert Millar (as was) amongst them. They were members of European teams that recruited on merit and potential. Given that there were far more professional cyclists in France, Belgium and Italy than everywhere else combined during the period 1900 -1970, that is not surprising. It is a culture where sons follow fathers, and it has alway been difficult for outsiders to break in.
      That changed when Sky poured a fortune into a predominantly British team. Prior to that all the professional teams were Continental, promoting French supermarkets and Italian salami.
      Female cycling is of little interest to sponsors, so there are few opportunities for female cyclists, because nobody cares to pay the vast costs of a (female) team when it is an uphill struggle to find sponsors.
      It is nothing short of idiocy to claim that there is some “colour bar”.

      *https://www.bicycling.com/tour-de-france/g22059401/tour-de-france-winners/

  66. The Russian Foreign Ministry’s statement comes amid reported plans by the Pentagon to deploy intermediate-range missiles.

    Plans by the UK and the US to deploy ground-based short- and intermediate-range missiles are making the prevention of possible serious escalations much more difficult, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on Monday.

    The ministry also did not rule out the use of military measures in response to missile threats arising from the West.
    In the past few weeks, the Pentagon has made several statements about practical steps toward deploying missiles previously banned by the now-defunct Intermediate‑Range Nuclear Forces Treaty (INF), and “the UK military joined the overtly hostile and destabilising statements and actions”, Zakharova recalled in her statement released by the Russian Foreign Ministry.
    “We certainly do not shut the door for dialogue, but taking into consideration the unfolding situation, we do not rule out that Russia will be forced to increasingly shift its focus to a military and technical response to the emerging missile threats”, Zakharova warned.

    1. It will be all down to Mr Trump, when the excretia hits the rotating blade assembly.

      You can see the hands up Biden’s backside working his lips already.

      A nasty man (well we think so) did it and ran away, well, our doctored votes sent him away

  67. Covid passports are authoritarian, illogical, vile

    A whole new architecture of state surveillance is being introduced under the guise of ‘safety’

    TIM STANLEY

    The Covid passport is a revolting idea. Authoritarian. Discriminatory. Un-British. The PM will give us more details in a press conference today but it’s a mark of how far lockdown has warped our values that it’s already being hailed as a “freedom pass”. The public is all for it, of course: these are the people who call the cops when they see a queue outside a church. We’ve become so used to control that being permitted to do something that in ordinary times would be quite normal, like go to the theatre or attend a football match, is treated as a benign act of mercy by an all-loving state.

    The lesser gods of Westminster will say that Covid certification can help us open up sooner, but the rumour is that the technology won’t be operational until September, by when the vast majority of us will be immunised anyway, so what’s the point? They’ll say it will be temporary: they said that with the first lockdown. And just like they said ID cards need only worry you if you’ve got something to hide, so they’ll say Covid passports will only inconvenience people who refuse to get a shot.

    But if the tech is up and running before September, there’ll be loads of people who won’t have had a jab or a recent history of infection, and I wouldn’t blame them if they’re reluctant to take a test now because they’ve been known to give the wrong result. If the outcome is positive, that’s life ruined for the next few weeks. Weddings cancelled. Jobs lost. The young, who have already put their careers and private lives on hold, will suffer the most, while the elderly can go to see Phantom on Ice. Plus we know that some groups are less likely to be tested or jabbed than others, because they live beyond the reach of the state or they don’t trust it. Just imagine what would happen at some Islamic or Pentecostal event when half the audience show up without a passport and have to be turned away.

    It will be Windrush all over again. I mean it. At the heart of the Windrush scandal, whereby Commonwealth citizens who had lived here for decades were threatened with deportation, was the outrageous, un-British proposition that a citizen should have to prove their Britishness. Hitherto it was largely accepted that in this country the state leaves you alone unless you are doing something wrong. With Windrush, individuals were assumed to be up to no good unless they could prove otherwise. The lockdown has pushed that hideous notion to its logical conclusion, to the extent that we have been prevented from doing things that are probably of no harm, like sitting on a park bench, and now, if these horrid passports are introduced, we’ll even have to prove that we are in good health. The Government seems determined to give David Icke fresh material for his next book. What next? A barcode on your head?

    I’ve always been willing to accept lockdown as a temporary suspension of rights for a greater good. I don’t want to risk passing this illness on to a vulnerable person. But the very point of vaccinations – or so we were repeatedly told – was that they would allow us to regain our rights as fast as possible. Instead, they are now being used as cover, even justification, for the introduction of a whole new architecture of mass surveillance – and I am sick of it. I’m sick of masks, of spying, of lectures, and sick to the back teeth of false promises and false starts. Last week, Chris Whitty told us that in the future Covid would be managed like flu, which I take to mean a disease that we avoid and resist but ultimately live with.

    Well, we don’t have passports for flu, do we? I’d rather see big events cancelled than this stuff become considered quotidian; I’d rather individuals were invited to judge risk for themselves than ordain the Government as guarantor of health and safety. For goodness sake, we are making real progress! We are immunising at a rate of knots and those of under 40 are willing to wait patiently for our turn because the prize, as far as I’m concerned, is that we’ll finally be left alone. What a blessing that will be! I have no desire to have the state police my health for the rest of my life.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/05/covid-passports-authoritarian-illogical-vile/

    1. The real point about vaccination passports is the government agenda to keep tabs on everyone. Johnson’s government is sickeningly authoritarian and masquerading as caring. They want money and power for themselves and will bankrupt this country to maintain their station.

      And we thought Blair was evil. Gove is potentially worse than Blair in the demonic stakes.

      1. As there is no immunity from these injections they are, therefore, not vaccinations.

      2. Johnson is nothing; he is a weak man with very large bills to pay. A disaster as Prime Minister!

    3. Tim, you obviously have missed the point about theses injections.

      It has been made clear by the ‘government’ that these injections do not give immunity and nor do they prevent the spread of any perceived infection. They are ….well, just injections containing god knows what.

    4. “What next? A barcode on your head?”. Please don’t give them any more ideas.

      1. It’ll be on your arm. Like the last time Lefties forced themselves on a people.

  68. I have been wondering why Boris chooses to have such an unruly hairstyle, unlike most respectable British men. Could it be because:

    1. He thinks that it is a trademark to make himself more recognisable?
    2. Carrie likes men with scruffy hairstyles?
    3. He thinks that his IQ is close to that of Albert Einstein?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c75b7c4338e54a1988e679721bf7a56c54f56607f6bcf6972d6f03e72caefcaa.png
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f36fe01f7f8698980da49b687577ee5694f6cbe35217508aa8ca2d39f6f4ef8c.png

    Based, on his disappointing lack of conservatism, I think we can rule out item 3!

    2. When I was a callow youth, just stepping on to the career ladder, I was given some advice by an older colleague who I greatly admired.

      ‘Get a gimmick. Something to make you stand out. It doesn’t matter what it is, just get one.’

      His (in an office full of neat haircuts and cheap suits) was waist-long hair and sandals. It worked for him, he was promoted way beyond his technical abilities.

      And it seems to be working for Boris.

  69. Breaking News!:-

    ‘Thandie Newton reveals she will use original spelling of her name from now on
    The actor has revealed that she will now revert to the original, Zulu spelling of her name, declaring: ‘I’m taking back what’s mine.’ ‘

    And in other breaking news, the paint on my skirting board is nearly dry….

    1. Still uses our Alphabet though and not the Zulu one

      Must not lose followers, Edit ie dosh, money, Zulu pounds and why did she learn to Spikka de Onglish if she hates us

      1. Someone so inordinately famous that you have – rightly – never heard of her.

          2. Same thing.
            We manage to understand diver, doctor, engineeer, painter, nurse, dentist, cook, golfer etc without having gendered alternatives.

      1. The utterly gorgeous and extremely talented actress, Thandwie Newton, is as English as they come. Born in London to a white English father called Nick Newton and a Zimbabwean mother, Nyasha, from the Shona tribe.

        Reading some of the vile and uncalled comments on this thread about her I can’t help but refer some to my post, of yesterday, on the topic of racial hatred being a far worse syndrome than “racism”. It seems that racal hatred, for no good or logical reason, is innate in many who comment here.

        1. So she’s as English as they come but ‘taking back what’s mine’…

          Rearrange these words into a well known phrase or saying:

          Cake, eating, my, and, having, it.

          1. I think it is time for me to “reclaim” my Welsh ancestry. From now on, please call me Gwilym

          2. My middle name is Bronwen. I confess it’s only recently that I discovered the Welsh pronounce the e as a y. However I’ve called myself Susan “bron-when” for 60+ years and I’m not going to stop now.

          6. Well, the Anglicised name helped make her famous (ie we could pronounce it) and she was happy with it until mission accomplished, so not all bad I guess…

        2. I have frequently commented here that the people who talk the most sense about racial issues – such as Candace Owens, Trevor Phillips and Thomas Sowell – are often black people themselves and are considerably more constructive in their thinking than bigots of diverse colours!

          You have settled in Sweden; we have settled in France. We do not wish the undermine the cultures which have been kind enough to welcome us – not, as far as I know, does Thandwie Newton, of whom I have never heard.

          1. Is she undermining a culture, or just a spoiled and self-obsessed luvvie?

          3. Neither. She has done nothing more than respond to a question asked of her during an interview by Vogue magazine.

          4. So © Telly Tart, if I’m interviewed by Vogue, I should insist on the Anglo-Saxon spelling of my name.
            Blimey, under ‘A’ I’ve a choice from ‘Alta’ to ‘Ætta’.

          5. The latter, but possibly being exploited by others who have aims at the former.

          6. But, the point is that Thandwie Newton, who has been a famous actress in the UK and the USA for many years, has no need for a ‘welcome’ in the UK; she is British born and bred to a white English father. She only mentioned re-adopting the original spelling of her name when interviewed by Vogue magazine.

          7. She’s so famous I have never heard of her and have absolutely no idea what she looks like.

        3. Are you sure it’s racial hatred and not just disgust that someone can be so self-obsessed that they make a point of publicising this kind of thing?

          1. Why is she ‘self-obsessed’? She has done nothing more than respond to a question put to her in an interview by Vogue magazine.

          1. Where has it been suggested that Shona is Zulu? I can only find a reference, in the article in today’s DT, of Thandwie being the original Zulu spelling of that name.

          2. Shona/Zulu … Hutu/Tutsi …. Kongo/Mongo … who cares?

            They all look the feckin’ same to me.

          3. I suppose if you were blick you might think Italians and Norwegians look the same

          4. I suppose if you were blick you might think Italians and Norwegians look the same

          5. I suppose I might, but of course, if I were ‘blick’ I wouldn’t know if it was Wednesday or breakfast time either.

        7. The comments are about her pretentious way of going about it.
          Thandie is a lovely name, as is Thandwie. However, nobody ever stopped her from using her real name!

    7. You could end all of this conversation about the spelling of her name. According to Wikipedia (like most others I had no clue who she was) , her first name is Melanie!

      Now Melanie is a nice name, she could use that.

      Who cares what she calls herself ( I assume she, that is very presumptive), the fact that the DT apparently made it a headline article shows how woke they have become.

      1. Melanie Thandiwe Newton Parker Is it a coincidence that her first name, Melanie, translates as ‘black’?

        She is probably a thandiwich short of a picnic too.

      2. I could end all of this conversation about the spelling of her name if I could be arsed, but I can’t. I’m more interested in my skirting board…

          2. It just needed a good rubdown and a couple of licks and it looks like a million dollars.

      3. She does appear to rather up her own arsehole and full of her own self importance.

    8. Wow, I was completely unaware of the law that prohibited people from using Zulu spellings for their names. So glad this injustice has been righted.

  71. This month is Paranoia Awareness month.
    Be aware.
    They could be anyone.
    They could be anywhere.
    Look behind you…

    1. Just because you are paranoid it doesn’t mean that they are not out to get you! Afternoon Phizzee.

    2. Just because you’re paranoid it doesn’t mean they aren’t watching you….

  72. Just been told that my neighbour who lived in the flat immediately below mine has died suddenly. I saw Gary a couple of days ago and he seemed fine. The porter on the front desk concurs. He thinks it was a heart attack. Gary was maybe a little overweight but I don’t think he was more than 50 years old, if that. His brother and sister-in-law are downstairs now, clearing out the flat. Can’t help but wonder if Gary took the jabs but I’ll never find out.

      1. Only as a neighbour but we’ve had some nice long chats over the years. I’m used to seeing him around and will miss him but I’ve never actually been in his flat nor he mine.

    3. The week after the residents at the old people’s home in a neighbouring village had their jabs 2 of them died. And a 90 year old neighbour whom Caroline visits and takes to church some Sundays had her jab last week and is now in hospital and feeling very poorly.

      Maybe this explains why the French are far more suspicious of the jabs than the British are.

      1. If the jabs were treated like the disease, anyone who died within 28 days of having the jab should be recorded as such.

  75. Has there been a takeover at The Express?
    I can’t find any WW3 stories!!

    1. Russia strengthens Arctic army as Putin’s new weapon could spark ‘radioactive tsunamis’ 5 April 2021.

      President Vladimir Putin’s military is using areas that are now ice-free because of global warming to test its newest weapons. It is thought he wants to flaunt his military might in a bid to secure its northern coast and open up a key shipping route from Asia to Europe.

      BELOW THE LINE

      DaemonStorm2 HRS AGO

      If Russia ever uses any of these nuclear weapons in anger, we should just bomb Russia out of existence. No thinking about it. We know the Russians do not care, so why should we.

      A well-reasoned point of view from Doctor Strangelove!

      https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1419103/russia-news-war-vladimir-putin-world-war-3-arctic-border-military-super-weapon

        1. I’ve often wondered why Russia wants such a big army. I mean, whod want to invade anyway?

          1. On a similar vein.Why do people in Britain complain about reductions in the armed forces.I mean,who’d want to invade anyway?
            Russia has a lot of natural resources and over the past 10 years have been ramping up their farming industry.
            For 2 years in a row now,they are number one in wheat exports.

          3. A little story about the EU sanctions.
            The biggest dairy company in Finland,Valio,used to be a leading supplier to Western Russia but were shut out.
            They were losing €millions weekly so what to do?
            Well,they built a brand new plant near St Petersburg,So now they process Russian milk and pay their taxes to the Russian exchequer !

          4. Well everybody. They would all like a share of the goodies! This one though is about the Globalists. Russia is the last refuge free of their control!

          6. Because there’s no guarantee that such an attack would work and there is the strong possibility of retaliation. You have to occupy to exploit!

  76. Ah! that’s better!
    I’ve been up above the lime kilns for a couple of hours, dragging down bits of an ash tree that toppled over for bringing home for the woodstacks.

    The Dearly Tolerant and Still @ Home are due back from Bursledon this evening so will be lighting the woodburner to ensure hot water for them to have a bath.

  80. Another U.S. Air Force C-17A Globemaster III military transport aircraft has recently arrived in Kiev from the Ramstein airbase in Germany this afternoon.
    Its being ramped up.

    1. Yes it’s looking ominous Harry. One is tempted to say that no one could be so stupid but we unfortunately have evidence that they are!

      1. Communist Brussels backed by Communist America start sabre rattling at the Republican Commonwealths of Russia.

        1. You couldn’t make it up! The world has completely inverted politically in twenty years!

    2. The warplanes in our Museums are being made ready

      HMS Victory is having a flight deck fitted

      The wooden engines in HMS Warrior are being replaced with real ones

      Chelsea Pensioners being pressganged into active service

    2. A cluster of earthquakes have struck the west coast of California in the past 24 hours. The biggest quake measured 4.0 on the Richter scale and was centred to the east of LA International Airport. The epicentre of the quake was measured around a mile from the LA county of Lennox at 11.44am (6.44pm BST on Sunday).

      Just a ripple Duncan. We are waiting for the big one under Tokyo that will bring down the world economy!

      1. Blame it on the Royal Family, Daddy Markle not shredding letters, Racism or anything else that sounds suitably pathetic.

  82. Alas, I’ve caught a Covid mutation. I keep hearing Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra songs. It’s the Crooner Virus.

    1. You’re lucky, I have short brown hairs growing out of my nose and ears – must be coconut virus!

        1. Unfortunately…the Hood went down after a shell went down one of the stacks and into the magazine room.

          2. The Hood went down with Lieutenant-Commander JOHN GEORGE PLUNKET BROWNRIGG known as Jack Brownrigg.

            I have known – and sailed with – his son, Terence, for several decades.

          3. Small world. My first commanding officer was Godfrey Place VC who was the last surviving RN VC holder. He was on midget submarines during the daring attack on the German battleship TIRPITZ.

  84. Is it just me or does Johnson’s scruffy hair remind you of the Wurzals?

    Where be that Johnson to?
    I know where he be
    He be up yon Wurzel tree, and I be after he
    Now I sees he, and he sees I
    Buggered if I don’t get ‘en
    With a gurt big stick I’ll knock ‘im down
    Johnson I’ll ‘ave he.

    Now something’s telling me
    That you’m avoiding me
    Come on now Johnson I’ve got something you need
    Cuz I got a brand new combine harvester
    And I’m coming after thee.

    1. Talking about songs from the West of England Boris Johnson has far too frequently ignored the sound agricultural advice about the proper maintenance of agricultural machinery in I ups and I Shows ‘er the West Country Way

      The moral of this song is clear to be seen
      No matter how cunning or crafty you’ve been,
      If you go courting young girls of sixteen
      Best heave a tarpaulin on your thrashing machine.

      and of course we must not forget True Belle’s favourite song Dorset is Beautiful:

      Now Carrie’s me girlfriend – she’s worth more than gold
      For she lies with ‘er ‘aystack whenever it’s cold
      Farmer says she ginormous and loud does he scoff
      For I ‘ave to leave a chalk mark to show where I left off.

      1. Very good! I saw the Wurzals live while havin a pint of Zummerset Scrumpy Zider.

        1. Life on Britain’s WORST estate: Terrified locals reveal horrors of ‘Kray Twin’ thugs, pet dogs being shot and firefighters attacked whenever they are called out on streets where most homes are empty and only four brave families endure
          Residents say living on Primrose Court in Huyton, Liverpool, is ‘horrendous’
          The area – once full of nice well-kept family homes – descended into disrepair
          Streets are disfigured by piles of upturned furniture strewn across gardens
          Follows years of rampant crime in the area, which saw homes burnt to a crisp
          By JEMMA CARR and KATIE FEEHAN FOR MAILONLINE

          https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8816491/Terrified-locals-blame-traveller-families-hellish-life-Britains-worst-estate.html

          Councils are obliged to house travellers , but where ever they are homed , they cause trouble .. and they are protected , why I just don’t know ..

          1. In 1980s we lived on the Isle of Dogs for a while, in a condemned block (it’s still there, btw) by Milwall Dock. Real Krays lived on the estate, and there was absolutely no crime whatsoever – you could leave your front door open when you went out, and nothing would be touched. They didn’t allow it.

        2. One of my cousins used to be a copper in Glasgow. Not that there was much to pick between them but he reckoned Easterhouse was worse that the Gorbals.

  86. 331178+ up ticks,
    breitbart,
    RAPE GANG MEMBER WALKING STREETS OF ROCHDALE SIX
    YEARS AFTER HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DEPORTED

    This fact, coupled with the Dover indigenous tribal replacement campaign are so blatant it is as if they were in the politico’s overseers manifesto and the electorate went for it…… they didn’t did they ?

    3. If they sold bacon butties and were based in Kelvinside it could be Short Bacon Sides.

    2. Children should not be given a vaccine for a virus that mainly affects the old and sick.

      1. 331178+ up ticks,
        Evening B3,
        I honestly believe there are a great many cross party who on entering the polling booth fall under the influence of the three monkeys, adjust their blinkers then vote.

        NO right minded person would continue to support these
        politico’s / parties that, after years of importing dangerous trash are still doing the same, daily.

        I am beginning to think that lockdowns are to incarcerate the innocent indigenous whilst the illegals roam the streets
        unimpeded.

  90. Was this discussed earlier?

    Everyone in the country will be encouraged to take two Covid tests a week to show they are not infected, Boris Johnson will announce on Monday.
    The rapid lateral flow tests will be paid for by the Government and can be delivered to homes free of charge from Friday. The multi-billion-pound expansion of testing is designed to catch Covid outbreaks early as the economy reopens. While the tests are voluntary, the announcement could pave the way for workplaces or businesses to ask staff or customers to show they have a negative result.

    The Government is also understood to be considering how the mass testing system could form part of an official “Covid certification” scheme through which the public would be required to prove they have been vaccinated, show an up-to-date negative test result or prove they have antibodies from recent infection in order to attend events or venues.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/04/04/public-will-urged-take-covid-test-twice-week-lockdown-rules/

    1. Several times, I think. Use an inaccurate test to keep proving that you are innocent, I mean free from covid. If anyone can’t see the creep of authoritarianism from that, then they deserve what’s coming. Unfortunately, the rest of us will get it too.

      1. There is absolutely no justification for mass twice -weekly testing of healthy people who show no signs of illness. This imposition should be strongly resisted.

        1. We know that the nudge unit is using peer pressure to try and bully people into complying with Government rules.
          We are only a few inches away from pointing the finger at the Jews, so to speak, at the moment.

    2. If vaccination, masks, distancing, bubbles, bans on travel are so bloody effective, why this bollox?

    4. The government has no money. It will be paid for by taxpayers. I object to my taxes being wasted on this nonsense.

  91. Though sunny all afternoon – it is VERY cold. An excellent opportunity to have a bash at the jigsaw. One of the hardest we have ever attempted. In two hours, put in a dozen pieces..

    More miserable weather tomorrow.

  92. 331178+ up ticks,
    I see this as the inhouse attack / defend any policies, no outside opposition allowed, not that there is a genuine outside opposition anyway.

    breitbart,
    Vaccine Passports Would Be State Reaching Too Far into Britons’ Lives, Warns Senior Tory MP

  93. Johnson, Hancock, Whitty and Vallance – The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

      1. Hopefully he’s in prison where he belongs and hopefully he’ll soon be joined by the other three.

  94. BBC covid briefing just now

    Johnson to lift restrictions on April 12….

    Rama dame begins on April 12.

    These many coincidences are eerily precise.

    1. Johnson favours the Muslims out of affection for the memory of his great grandfather, Ali Kemal.

  95. Black history ‘should be taught across all subjects in UK schools’. 5 April 2021.

    Union says narrative that black people only have a history of enslavement and colonisation must change.

    Michelle Codrington-Rogers, a citizenship teacher in Oxford who was the first black national president of the NASUWT, told members it was not just about black history, “it’s about the whole curriculum”. She said every subject had a responsibility to change the narrative that black people only have a history of enslavement and colonisation.

    “We built the pyramids, developed modern numbers, built universities. Our ancestors were philosophers, scientists, military strategists, authors, writers, activists and so much more,” she said.

    I’ll bet the Egyptians and Arabs are pleased to hear that! History as fantasy!

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/apr/05/black-history-should-be-taught-across-all-subjects-in-uk-schools

      1. The Black Universities in the States claim that the Ancient Egyptians were Black!

          6. Wow – that’s what I call prescient. 6000 years before the earliest Bronze Age settlement at what was to become Greenwich. I’m impressed… :-))

          7. ‘Ow do, Geoff.
            How’s Easter been for you? At least tolerable, I hope?

          8. Hi Paul. Sorry – just catching up with notifications. Easter was weird. At least this year we were allowed into church, but no more than 30 attendees. Still not allowed to sing, so my role is reduced to downloading recorded hymns from Amazon to the phone, and playing them back through the church sound system. And I forgot to defrost the lamb overnight for Sunday lunch. But… tolerable, I guess.

    2. I guess one can self-declare dead people to have a skin colour of convenience as and when needed.

    3. Sounds like another idiot that has been promoted above his abilities because of his skin colour

    4. Sounds like another idiot that has been promoted above his abilities because of his skin colour

    6. Oh dear. Of course the North Africans are ethnically caucasoid but these dimwits deny the biological reality of the negroid, caucasoid and mongoloid races, just as they deny the biological sexes.

    7. I always thought that ‘Black History Month’ was 30 days too long…

    8. “We built the pyramids, developed modern numbers, built universities.

      Peddled drugs
      Have a penchant for machettes and other knives
      Fathers do not like their kids: they live away

    9. Until I read thr whole post I was thinking, “black history, complete detailed coverage of black accomplishments in science, the arts, industry, and literature might take around ten minutes. Maybe longer if some of the pupils are very slow on the uptake”.

    10. Union says narrative that black people only have a history of enslavement and colonisation must change.
      Time to give Michelle Codrington-Rogers some positive feed back to that headline:

      A Poem for Black History

      In the matter of racial comparisons
      The media shouts to the moon,
      About all the historic achievements
      Of the Redskin, Spic and the Coon.

      Yet strangely, when strolling museums,
      The white man’s creations stand thick;
      But all we can find of those others
      Is a blanket, a bowl and a stick.

      No telephones, timeclocks or engines,
      No lights that go on with a flick.
      No aeroplanes, rockets or radios.
      Just a blanket, a bowl and a stick.

      Not one Sioux Indian submarine,
      No African ice cream to lick,
      Not a single Mexican x-ray machine,
      It’s a blanket, a bowl and a stick.

      So, remember when history’s the subject,
      And revisionists are up to their tricks,
      The evidence tells quite another tale,
      Of a blanket, a bowl and a stick.

      A poem by A. Wyatt Mann

  96. Black history ‘should be taught across all subjects in UK schools’. 5 April 2021.

    Union says narrative that black people only have a history of enslavement and colonisation must change.

    Michelle Codrington-Rogers, a citizenship teacher in Oxford who was the first black national president of the NASUWT, told members it was not just about black history, “it’s about the whole curriculum”. She said every subject had a responsibility to change the narrative that black people only have a history of enslavement and colonisation.

    “We built the pyramids, developed modern numbers, built universities. Our ancestors were philosophers, scientists, military strategists, authors, writers, activists and so much more,” she said.

    I’ll bet the Egyptians and Arabs are pleased to hear that! History as fantasy!

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/apr/05/black-history-should-be-taught-across-all-subjects-in-uk-schools

  97. Apropos of absolutely nothing and completely OT. Johnson’s features are now reminding me of those of Jimmy Savile. It must be the evil contained therein. I saw a cameo photograph on TCW of our dear leader and my first thought was, but that is Savile.

  98. Boris is giving free test kits which will be delivered to you home….

    All Notlters request one each and swab your cat or dog or hamster or chickens or budgies and see what the result is. Then post your findings on a specified day on these threads.

    Might settle a few arguments.

      1. Oh I don’t know, I possess a professional strength blow dryer but I’m hopelessly inept at using it. My airdresser does a much better job!

        I wonder if G & P would test positive with lateral flow?

          1. You’re lucky, I’ve got premier League kidneys, northern league, division 4, bladder.

    3. Just the job now millions are out protesting…

      A few glasses of Dutch courage and watch the blood flow.

    1. Interesting fact…
      The interest on Chinese loans to US pays for Chinese army.

  102. I really wish that each of the top 10 causes of death per day in the UK were published alongside the Covid statistics to get a sense of perspective.

    The other day we were given a Covid figure of 10, today it was “up” to 26.

    Suicides are as bad, if not worse and certainly a far, far bigger cause of death in males under 45 than Covid by a very long way.

      2. Suicides are ~ 18 per day, every day.
        Apologies for bringing back unwanted memories but, like you, it is a very sore point with me.

        1. 43 a day from ‘flu and pneumonia. (That is the 2019 figure – they are still massaging the 2020).

          1. And only ~180 dementia and Alzheimer’s and 250 heart attack deaths a day, as well as many other “regular” causes, all of which will have plunged while Covid’s have climbed.

            But hey ho, Covid’s yer danger

    2. Average deaths every day in the UK will be around 2200 from all causes.

      1. And of those attributed to Covid, most will be predominantly down to other underlying problems.

        We are being lied to.

  103. That’s me for this bitter bank holiday. Cold, gales, snow…still the sun did shine which warmed the house indoors. Very cold night and shite weather tomorrow.

    Have a smooth evening, trying to keep warm

    A demain.

    2. “The avid cross-dresser pushed her testicles back into her stomach”

      He/she/it must have a very unusual anatomy…

  105. With most of Europe suspending flights how many aircraft do you suppose are in the air over the UK and Europe right this minute.

    Click the link and see the numbers which are continuously being updated. Click on individual aircraft to identify them and find out where they are coming from and going.

    First make an educated guess and then click the link.

    https://www.radarbox.com/@42.08769,-1.39122,z4

    1. Just checked flights from Norway to Cardiff or Bristol.
      None. By any route.

    2. Quite a lot of traffic above Europe. Not a lot over the UK apart from those taking a shortcut from Europe to other places and vice versa.

      In North Essex we had regular Ryanair and EasyJet flights over our house. Now virtually nothing flies over.

  106. Lefties who say they hate billionaires like Denise Coates are just jealous

    Yes, capitalism can be unfair. But it enriches just as surely as socialism makes people poor.

    JULIE BURCHILL

    Watching the rioters in my hometown of Bristol, I had to laugh; the last time I saw their kind was at the Extinction Rebellion protests, bunking off from skiing trips to prevent the proles from getting to work. Middle class youth rebel into toy-town insurrection – but working class youth rebel into ambition.

    Growing up in a Communist household in the English working class of the 1970s, it’s fair to say that my horizons would have struck your average pit-pony as limited. After my bright cousin was told by the “careers officer” (are they “tsars” now?) to “come down to earth” when she said she’d like to be an air hostess, there was no way I was going to confide my dreams of being the next Dorothy Parker.

    When I got my dream job as a writer at 17, the fun was just beginning; over the years, I was treated like everything from an exotic pet to a half-wit because I’d never been to “uni”. Then the 1980s rocked up and suddenly ambition was almost a religion; the self-anointed great and the good could sneer but after decades of being promised jam tomorrow by our middle-class masters in the socialist struggle, it felt great to break free.

    Though it took me till 2019 to actually vote Tory (Brexit!), spiritually I never went back; I have a real thing for flagrant capitalists, finding Lord Sugar saying “My tax bill was £56 million last year. Many people would go abroad and dodge it. But I love living in England. And if you pay £56 million, don’t forget about the £130 million you’re left with” as thrilling as I once found Marc Bolan’s cheekbones.

    So I won’t be joining the monstering of Denise Coates, the Bet365 founder who earned £469 million last year (“How much is too much?” asked the BBC; “grotesque” said a Lefty journalist). The Labour-supporting family business is now Britain’s biggest taxpayer, coughing up more than £615m to HMRC in 2020, as well as giving £85 million to charities. While Coates isn’t my favourite sort of super-rich (like Trump she inherited some of her wealth so doesn’t have that rags-to-riches glamour) she serves as a handy litmus test for the mean-spiritedness of others.

    I know many people without ambition who are fine with that and I don’t condemn them. But I also know a few who gripe ceaselessly about the rich and of whom I always think “You’d love what they’ve got – and you’d give away less than they do.” I’m convinced that a lot of the hysterical hatred aimed at Bill Gates is that his critics know in their desiccated hearts that they would be nowhere near as generous to the wretched of the earth – so he must have an ulterior motive. [No, it’s his megalomania that bothers we penniless plebs.]

    When completely unregulated, capitalism can be a horrible thing – the worst economic system except for all the others, as Winston Churchill said of democracy. But it’s also a fact that capitalism raises people out of poverty as surely as socialism forces them into it. One reason the Red Wall fell was because the working class felt increasingly patronised by the metropolitan Lady Mucks of Labour to the extent where they believed that an Old Etonian understood their hopes and fears more than a comrade could.

    “You can do this’ is always going to be a more attractive message than “You can’t do this without our help”. As with the wall of red, so with the one in Berlin; the traffic was all one way, as today immigrants vote with their feet and clamour to enter the most capitalist of countries. In this age of virtue-signalling, some filthy rich people are better than others; the Wokescreen covers a multitude of sins. Think of the celebrity Lefties and their perfectly legal tax avoidance.

    Or Konnie Huq demanding that billionaires be cancelled as “It’s crazy that we have people who have very little, and then we have billionaires. I’d implement a cap and all that money can go to good causes instead.” Why not start the cap, at, say, £12 million – roughly a million less than the estimated combined net worth of Huq and her husband Charlie Brooker (as reported last year)?

    It’s time the Left realised that there’s nothing inherently virtuous about having all the get-up-and-go of a draught excluder. And that a rich person who says greed is good and pays every penny of their tax is worth a million rich people who say they’re hippies at heart and dodge it.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/04/lefties-say-hate-billionaires-like-denise-coates-just-jealous/

    1. It’s not how much Denise Coates earns, it’s how she earns it that is distasteful.

      1. In Mablethorpe, there is one Cashpoint at the Co-op and another directly opposite, built into the facade of a betting shop

        2. Some people are addicted though, and the betting companies make a lot of money out of them. Also, it is far easier to resist the temptation to gamble when one is rich than when one’s life is desperately poor. They are selling hope to the poor, in a system that is weighted to make sure they win every time.

          I’m not saying she deserves to be hung as there is some justification for selling hope in small bottles, but if you offered me the chance to make a fortune via running an internet betting company, I wouldn’t take it up.

      3. After my younger son died a few years ago at Lark Hill, I discovered the debts he had run up to the money lenders to finance his online gambling. I was pleased to be able to write and tell them they would not be repaid and enclosed a death certificate. I think the quick quids have disappeared but online gambling makes it far too easy to get the habit. Its voluntary, of course, and so are drugs to begin with.

        1. One of the shopfitters I do architectural work for discovered that their accounts clerk had stolen over £1.7 million from their reserve account (their pension pot), falsified their Purchase Order system and had won several very large prizes including £1.0 million and £250,000.00 and numerous smaller prizes on on-line bingo.

          The MD of the firm, a close friend of mine, had even assisted the woman when banking her winnings.

          The woman kept playing on-line bingo day and night and lost the bloody lot, the money stolen and the massive winnings. She was jailed for fraud and given a mere 3 years as opposed to 7 years because she admitted guilt.

          The Bingo company were obliged to repay some of the money for a clear lack of duty of care. The company Bank got off Scot free, too big to fault. The woman was forced by law to sell her house in Thetford and a property in Spain and return the money raised to the Court.

          Gambling companies are the scum of the earth. They exploit stupid uneducated and compulsive unfortunates, create untold harm to society and make billions in profit.

          I recall the dolt John Major describing gambling (National Lottery) as a ‘harmless flutter’. How wrong he was.

    2. My issue isn’t with the amounts involved, it’s about where most of it comes from: The poor and the ignorant who think that by betting they can suddenly become rich.

      Those poor and ignorant become addicted and bet365 is a parasite, nothing more.

      1. I ‘inherited’ my Ladbrokes account from my father and, like him, remain poor and ignorant.

    3. Goodness, there’s some serious missing-of-the-point going on in response to this piece. JB might have used a better example than Coates but she skewers the we-know-what-is-best-for-you attitude of the Left through the ages.

      1. I’m trying to post a clip from OLT about an elephant birthing. It’s a lovely clip, but I can’t seem to get it to post.

  108. REVEALED: The 40 women arrested for posing naked on a Dubai balcony are all models in their teens and 20s from Ukraine who are each facing six months in prison and £1,000 fines

    All models are believed to be from ex-Soviet states but 11 are Ukranian, country’s foreign ministry confirmed
    Russian man detained as organiser of ‘lewd’ shoot on a balcony in the UAE has been named as Alexey Kontsov
    Understood he told police he was in nearby apartment and filmed the spectacle showing the naked women
    He claims to have then made the ‘fatal mistake’ of sharing the explicit video, a potential crime in the UAE
    Do you know these women? Email Lauren.Lewis@mailonline.co.uk
    By WILL STEWART and LYDIA CATLING and LAUREN LEWIS FOR MAILONLINE

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9437041/Inside-Dubai-balcony-publicity-stunt-Israeli-porn-site-saw-dozen-woman.html

    I expect they stripped off because the weather was so hot!

    1. I dont expect these Rooshan ‘models’ spend a great deal of time with their clothes on in Dubai.

    2. The different states of the UAE have very different attitudes to things we consider harmless in the West, Maggie.

      For example, in Dubai, the authorities don’t allow the screening of “The Flintstones” cartoons but those in Abu Dhabi do.

    3. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

      I am so enraged at this appalling spectacle that I’ve spent the last 20 minutes forensically investigating the photographic evidence.

  110. Nicked

    To your MP

    “Sir,
    I’m afraid that any medical procedures I may or may not have
    are strictly between myself and my physician and not, REPEAT not between
    myself and a variety of shop assistants, night club bouncers, waiters,
    waitresses, shopping centre security guards, barmaids, or supermarket
    checkout operators. Therefore I am not even remotely interested in
    carrying your government’s nasty, deeply discriminating affront to my
    civil liberties that is the ‘Covid Passport’.
    Whilst I accept after
    the last 15 months of destroying our civil liberties without so much as a
    squeak of protest from our MSM, indeed actual encouragement from the
    Cultural Marxists of the ‘B’BC, you may be confused by the idea that
    members of hoi polloi are upset at even more infringements, rest assured
    that this is the case. It is wholly unacceptable that a party that
    calls itself Conservative could even begin to think of such things. If
    you are to carry on this way, might I suggest a change of name? I
    believe ‘New Labour’ is currently free and is a lot more fitting given
    your penchant for big government, massive tax hikes, printing hundreds
    of billions of pounds, and borrowing on a scale that would make even
    Dennis Healey or Gordon Brown wince
    .Yours Sincerely,”

  115. 331178+ up ticks,

    breitbart,
    Boris Johnson Confirms Pubs Reopening April 12th, Talks Down Corona Passports

    That means they are definitely on.

    1. I thought ‘Sir’ Ed Davey had broken ranks on Covid Passports but then the Liberal Democrat’s have always had an eye for the main chance.

  116. So Covid measures to continue after full vaccination rollout. Normality still some way off. Who’da thunk It!

    2. Johnson and Hancock’s grip on power is presently hanging on by the fingertips. There are too many who will not submit to their common cold (coronavirus) jab programme and who have seen through this global scam.

      These evil individuals, Johnson, Hancock, Whitty, Vallance and Van Tam plus those authorising and giving the jabs need to seek alternative employment along with the SAGE ‘scientists’. Time is well and truly up for all of them: ‘Come in Number 10 your time is up’. Jail time awaits you all.

      1. I’d love to think you are right, jail time awaiting them all, but can’t see it happening. All decisions were made “collectively” in public, nobody offered an alternative opinion; the dissenting scientific voices were all smothered as they are still although there is plenty of published work suggesting other than what’s happened. The PCR tests and lateral flow tests are all worthless, besides, what on Earth is the point of testing asymptomatic people? We’ve seen a roadside sign in Woking “symptom free testing”!

        It comes down to government control of us all with millions made along the way for those friendly” with big Pharma. Meanwhile they are impoverishing the rest of us so they eventually make a cointryndependant on Government for a Wage. Goes along with the green/climate change agenda.

    3. Johnson and Hancock’s grip on power is presently hanging on by the fingertips. There are too many who will not submit to their common cold (coronavirus) jab programme and who have seen through this global scam.

      These evil individuals, Johnson, Hancock, Whitty, Vallance and Van Tam plus those authorising and giving the jabs need to seek alternative employment along with the SAGE ‘scientists’. Time is well and truly up for all of them: ‘Come in Number 10 your time is up’. Jail time awaits you all.

  117. Evening, all. They are determined that we’ll all have the jab, regardless of need or suitability. They’ll do it in such a way as to be able to hold up their hands and say, “not me, mate”, though.

    1. There are too many skeptics like me for those politicians to succeed. Even Americans are waking to the threat of untested vaccines administered coercively by stupid Democrats.

      The saddest thing for me is that when I meet village folk I have not seen for months their first question is “have you had the jab?” When I retort “no” they cut the conversation short and move away from me walking backwards whilst still keeping me in sight. Bloody tragic.

    2. I can’t help wondering, Connors, if there is one, just one of those pushing the jabs who can say, hand on heart, that there will be NO follow-on complications but, if there are, then you will be entitled for full compensation from we who have advised you to have the jab.

      1. NtN morning [here anyway]. None of them will utter the words you posted, that’s akin to perjury. And all big pharma already have immunity from any prosecution. And thats despite the ever increasing numbers of cases in court Stateside….. gathering dust.

        But you can “read the tea leaves as well as anyone: As Big Pharma has immunity, officials and politicians are set up to take the fall. As the investigations will grow in intensity, several high-ranking officials
        at SAGE etc will be forced to step down and withdraw from government
        in order to “spend more time with their families.”

        And just as all previous pandemics taper off [and C-19 already has], you ‘ll find several “influential politicians / agency reps” will come under fire [around time of next election for sensationalising severity of events for perceived political gain / personal wealth

    3. I can’t help wondering, Connors, if there is one, just one of those pushing the jabs who can say, hand on heart, that there will be NO follow-on complications but, if there are, then you will be entitled for full compensation from we who have advised you to have the jab.

      1. Nairobi. Small world. I have just been whiling away the hours Googling Nanyuki where I stayed on a training exercise a few years ago. 🙂

        1. Mng, am in Kinoo [main MSR North [Waiyaki Way, just up from Uthiru]. Nanyuki’s similar to here [Nbo Metropolitan area] under extended lockdown, rest of Kenya’s fine. As usual zero C-19 since incpetion, just Uhuru playing Western bank money game. Was last up in Nanyuki Jan last year, nothing much’s changed. Presume you were under BATLISK umbrella?

          2. Mng. BATLSK is the British Army Training and Liaison Staff based in its own inner camp of wider KDF main camp on Thika Rd. Maily Mainly RLC staff coordinating exercises [and taxi driver echelon for High Commission]. I heard this year’s Askari Storm was cancelled viz non existent C-19. They would’ve advance prepped your involvement. Good lads all round, you normally find them floating around Village Market [Gigiri] at weekends, if not chauffering senior High Commission clowns around

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