Saturday 11 June: Our houses will be made uninhabitable when the boilers that heat them are outlawed

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  1. Boris Johnson unveils ‘grow for Britain’ plan. 11 june 2022.

    Boris Johnson is set to unveil a “grow for Britain” strategy and tell farmers to produce more fruit and veg, in the wake of record inflation.

    In a major announcement expected on Monday, the Prime Minister is poised to unveil the country’s first food strategy for 75 years.
    It is set to call for changes to planning rules to make it easier to convert land into farms, announce that poultry workers will be eligible for seasonal migrant visas, and propose that schools, prisons and hospitals be required to offer a vegan option.

    They’ve completely lost it! They don’t have a clue! This is Chairman Mao stuff! The Incompetence and Cultural Marxist stupidity of twenty years has finally caught up with them! Even their solutions for this catastrophe in the making are childish! What’s next? Digging up your lawns? A steel plant in every backyard?

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/06/10/boris-johnson-unveils-grow-britain-plan/

    1. My BTL Comment:

      He (Boris) would do well to prevent the covering of good food-producing arable land, with useless Solar Panels, which produce tons of CO2 in both the manufacture and disposal, while increasing our dependence on imported fruit and vegetables.
      Put them on every new-build house, all industrial estates, supermarkets, warehouses and car -parks. Plenty of empty rooves.

    2. Yet another knee jerk and vacuous statement from this ludicrous person masquerading as Prime Minister.
      Johnson probably has a small department researching for, ‘what do the people want?’, so that he can come up with a statement that will show that he recognises the issues that are of concern to the electorate: all the while he works to his agenda and doesn’t give a toss about the people’s concerns.

      1. Why does he not realise that the British people do not want the EU in Northern Ireland and EU fishing boats depleting British fishing stocks.

    3. Feckwittery writ large. The same government is currently offering terms to farmers to give up agriculture and sell up their land…probably for solar panels and windmills. It’s not so much the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing as a lucky dip into the ideas box and spouting whichever ‘plan’ comes to hand.

  2. Good morrow Gentlefolk.

    Keir Starmer: ‘Thatcher was wrong about British society’
    The Labour leader on why he doesn’t believe in showmanship (like taking the BLM knee along with Rayner, in his office) and how he hopes that the political pendulum is swinging towards competence.

    My emphasis.

    A fine statement from one of the most incompetent opposition leaders ever.

    He goes on (and on) to say, ““If ever there was evidence that Margaret Thatcher was wrong about there being no such thing as society, we just saw it in the pandemic.”

    The pandemic that set family members (lapping up gene therapy) against other family members (avoiding jabs of improperly tested ‘vaccines’ that were causing random injury and death.)

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/10/keir-starmer-thatcher-wrong-british-society/

    1. He’s just another fool who doesn’t want to understand what she actually said! There’s none so blind….

      1. ‘Morning, Sue, I think she said something to the effect that Socialism was dead.

        1. … and that “there is no such thing as society, but people, mothers, fathers, families…” – with the point being that society is made up of individuals, it isn’t a blob, a uniform mass of amoebæ.
          She was right, too.

      2. Good morning, Sue

        Why consider what is said in its proper context when you can get away with misrepresentation?

        1. When you are an unthinking, moronic tool, it plays well with your unthinking, moronic audience!

          1. I think you’ll find that Sir Keef Hindsight is a forensic, unthinking, moronic fool.

      3. It’s deliberate. A verbal cut’n’paste.

        “I think we have gone through a period when too many children and people have been given to understand ‘I have a problem, it is the Government’s job to cope with it!’ or ‘I have a problem, I will go and get a grant to cope with it!’ ‘I am homeless, the Government must house me!’ and so they are casting their problems on society and who is society? There is no such thing! There are individual men and women and there are families and no government can do anything except through people and people look to themselves first.”

  3. Good morrow Gentlefolk.

    Keir Starmer: ‘Thatcher was wrong about British society’
    The Labour leader on why he doesn’t believe in showmanship (like taking the BLM knee along with Rayner, in his office) and how he hopes that the political pendulum is swinging towards competence.

    My emphasis.

    A fine statement from one of the most incompetent opposition leaders ever.

    He goes on (and on) to say, ““If ever there was evidence that Margaret Thatcher was wrong about there being no such thing as society, we just saw it in the pandemic.”

    The pandemic that set family members (lapping up gene therapy) against other family members (avoiding jabs of improperly tested ‘vaccines’ that were causing random injury and death.)

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/10/keir-starmer-thatcher-wrong-british-society/

  4. Good Moaning.
    Sorry to start the day on a bum note, but I just despair.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/06/10/michael-goves-block-gas-exploration-sends-sir-jim-ratcliffes/

    “Michael Gove’s block on gas exploration sends Sir Jim Ratcliffe’s frackers ‘apoplectic’

    Energy giant Ineos is refused planning permission for trying to build a fence

    By Helen Cahill 10 June 2022 • 7:05pm

    Sir Jim Ratcliffe’s energy giant Ineos is “apoplectically cross” after Michael Gove blocked plans for a fracking site in South Yorkshire.

    The billionaire’s bid to produce gas in Britain was dealt a blow this week when the Secretary of State for Levelling Up overturned approval for Ineos’s planning application for a fracking site near Rotherham.

    The company had been seeking to extract rock to examine the concentration of shale gas on the site. The company aimed to frack on the site at a later stage.

    But the Government has refused planning permission over concerns about plans to construct a three-metre fence around the well to reduce noise from drilling on the site.

    Department for Levelling Up cited Mr Gove’s concern the structure would impact the “openness” of the Green Belt Area.

    Ineos had been asked to construct the barrier by local planning officers and would have removed it after extracting the rock for testing.

    Mr Gove’s intervention has gone against the advice of the planning inspector who said the project should go ahead.

    The Department for Levelling Up decision said: “The Secretary of State disagrees with the Inspector’s recommendation. He has decided to dismiss the appeal and refuse planning permission.”

    Mr Gove gave “substantial weight” to fears about harm to the green belt from the temporary fence and gave only “moderate weight” to the benefits the scheme would deliver from encouraging the exploration for shale gas.

    Jeremy Hunt this week condemned the Government’s decision to pave the way for fracking in his constituency. He wrote to Mr Gove to complain about the “bitterly disappointing” decision to approve plans for an exploration site in Dunsfold in South West Surrey.

    Earlier this week drilling was approved at this site in Jeremy Hunt’s Surrey constituency

    Craig Mackinlay MP, chairman of the Conservative Net Zero Scrutiny Group, said: “When Putin invaded Ukraine, the Prime Minister was quick to spot the importance of UK energy security rather than pointlessly importing gas from abroad – including from Russia. Yet in practice, ministers seem to be putting every type of obstacle in the way of us producing our own, homegrown energy.

    “How on earth can the impact of a temporary fence be more important than trying to unleash the vast goldmine of gas we have sitting beneath our feet, with all the jobs and tax revenues it will bring?”

    The Government is separately conducting a review of its fracking policies and has commissioned a study to look at whether new technologies could improve site safety issues.

    One industry source said: “Ineos are apoplectically cross because the timing of this is so unusual. The industry was getting some warm signals on the Government’s attitude to fracking, and everything is submitting documents to this review over the next few weeks.”

    A group of 35 MPs and peers wrote to the Business Secretary about the review.

    The letter said: “For too long we have been meeting more and more of our gas needs from the Russian-dominated European market sending billions of pounds every year to Putin’s war chest, while our domestic supplies sit idle.”

    A spokesman for the Department of Levelling Up said: “Like all planning cases, these decisions were made according to the development plan for each area, taking account of any other material considerations.”

    He insisted that Stuart Andrew, a junior minister, had made the decision on behalf of the Secretary of State. Mr Gove had merely given the planning block his legal authority, he said.

    It follows criticism of Mr Gove this week from Jeremy Hunt, a challenger to Boris Johnson’s dented leadership. The Government approved an oil project in Mr Hunt’s constituency in Surrey, which the former Health Secretary said was “bitterly disappointing and wrong both economically and environmentally”.

    The industry body representing fracking companies complained about an alleged lack of consistency.

    Charles McAllister, director of policy at industry group UK Onshore Oil and Gas, said: “There is incontrovertible inconsistency in this decision-making process.

    “If all of the decisions had been the same it would have been clearer what the Government is thinking. All of this adds uncertainty.

    “In the project that was approved, great weight was given to the benefits of UK natural gas production. But that same weight wasn’t given to the two other sites, and it is not at all clear why.”

    Ineos now has six weeks to appeal the decisions at the High Court. The company would also need the Government’s moratorium on fracking to be lifted before the projects could go ahead.

    Sir Jim has previously complained that the Government has been prioritising the views of an “ignorant minority” in its fracking policy.

    In an apparent attack on climate activist Dame Vivienne Westwood, he said: “Apparently the influential voice of a fashion designer carries more weight than any number of scientific experts.”

    Boris Johnson came under pressure to lift the fracking ban from Brexit Minister Lord Frost this week.

    Writing in the Telegraph, Lord Frost said: “Start fracking, be clear that North Sea gas is fundamental for the future, and take VAT off energy bills.”

    But climate campaigners have warned that fracking will not reduce energy prices and will upset communities in areas near fracking wells.”

    1. This independence by gas, fracked or undersea, means Bumbling Boris may keep cracking on about wind and solar power – both of which have already proved at best to be inefficient CO2 producers and at worst are just bluddy useless.

      1. I have yet to be convinced that CO2 is bad for the planet and is the cause of global warming. Of course I am not a climatologist and I know nothing about the matter; however the hordes of people who go along with the scam and the politicians themselves are no more knowledgeable than I am.

        1. I agree, Richard as CO2 is a trace gas forming just 0.04% of the atmosphere but I’m of a mind to turn their ridiculous bluster about Net- Zero back on them, to shew that their much lauded component parts emit far more CO2 in their production and subsequent disposal than they ever hope to save – unnecessarily.

        2. What’s cause & consequence?
          Warm a bottle of fizzy, and the CO2 comes out of solution. That doesn’t make the CO2 the cause of the warming.

          1. Exactly. I posted an article yesterday, demolishing the CO2/global warming nonsense.

        3. As I understand it, market gardeners actually increase the amount of CO2 in their greenhouses to grow salad vegetables to maturity more quickly

          1. Correct; CO2 is a key component (along with water) in photosynthesis to produce growth.

    2. ‘Morning Anne! I think it’s high time us Nottlers took out a contract on Gove and Hunt! Feel free to add to the list – we may get discount on a bulk order!

    3. Gove’s move is akin to what Biden has been doing in the USA. The latter has huge reserves of oil and gas but those reserves are not being exploited due to Biden’s ‘green’ initiative: meanwhile in the USA vehicle fuel prices are soaring and electricity supply is being threatened. Sounds familiar? WEF/NWO instructions to its now activated sleepers?

      1. So far we are at the viewing stage; many are lovely people who ‘get’ the vibes of the house (sorry to sound so ageing hippie).
        A few are whey faced, joyless nerds who suck all fun out of life. Local viewers mostly seem to like the house, the Londoners hoping for a bargain have been the grey nitpickers. Because our tastes are rather camp and theatrical, a successful pantomime dame and his boy friend would be our best bet.
        We have a house in view – just round the corner as we do love our little leafy patch, plus friends, family and even dog walking acquaintances are round here. The biggest problem is down sizing; you acquire an awful lot of stuff in 50+ years. Much of our furniture and pictures have stories behind them and are 3rd or 4th generation belongings.

        1. Camp and theatrical ? What, like beaded curtains and crushed velvet sofa?

          People get distracted by other people’s things. It’s the house they are buying. Not the contents.

          1. Not THAT camp. I’m not Mme Arcati.
            Let’s just say we channelled our inner Victorian but with C20 convenience. (The servants’ quarters are not furnished with wash stands.)

    4. If Gove and rhyming slang Hunt are against anything, the chances are it’s good for Britain

    5. Well done, Mr Gove!
      Fracking on the mainland is fracking on the cheap. Fracking in the North Sea bothers nobody, but costs a little more.
      (It is instructive to read about Mr Ratcliffe, e.g. Grangemouth.)

      1. 353107+ up ticks,

        Morning SM,

        The MSM newspaper department, I honestly only purchase to kick start the wood burner,
        mail is best, more pages.

    1. 353107+ up ticks,

      Morning TB,

      This is to be is replicated countrywide every hamlet,village, town council will have similar starting with one then building on that.

      This can be surely seen as lab/lib/con coalition policy backed by a majority electorate.

      #

    2. Good morning Veritable Loveliness

      I posted my opinion on Charlie Boy on the Nottlers’ Forum last night and have this morning drafted these into a letter I have sent to the DT (See above).

  5. Further to my reply to poppiesmum’s comment last evening.

    This excerpt from last Thursday’s Highwire’s Jaxen Report segment is worth watching. Towards the end of the segment Jefferey Jaxen mentions a side-effect of the Pfizer booster serum that presents as very similar to monkeypox. Is this new potential pandemic being orchestrated to hide the side-effect as the new ‘Sudden Adult Death Syndrome’ (SADS) is being used to cover cardiac and associated problems? Setting up a fraudulent PCR test to ‘confirm’ monkeypox when it isn’t present would be child’s play to corrupt scientists.

    The Highwire – CDC’s Monkeypox Mess

    1. The first technical briefing for the disease included details of interviews with 45 confirmed cases, who were asked about their sexual health.

      Nearly all (98 per cent) of the interviewed cases reported sex with other men during the incubation period, with nearly half (44 per cent) reporting more than 10 sexual partners in the previous three months and group sex.

      Of those interviewed, 44 per cent (20 out of 45) also reported attending “sex-on-premises” venues in the UK or abroad during the incubation period, such as saunas, dark rooms or sex clubs.
      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/10/sex-cruising-grounds-clubs-makes-monkeypox-contacts-hard-trace/

  6. Good morning my friends.

    I have just sent this off to the DT letters dept. I wonder if they will publish it?

    Sir,

    Prince Charles is reported to have expressed his disgust at the government’s policy of flying illegal immigrants to Rwanda. As a private individual he is, as we all should be, entitled to his point of view. However, he is not merely a private individual but the heir to the throne in a constitutional monarchy and the tacit understanding is that he should steer clear of politics.

    If he does enter the political fray on the question of illegal immigration should he not only criticise the government but also offer his solution to the problem? Does he believe that the profiteers in the trade of human trafficking should be encouraged to continue unchecked and does he believe that Britain should have no restrictions at all on who is entitled to enter and settle in the country?

    Rastus C.Tastey

    1. Brilliant and so true , Richard .

      Do you have the horrible feeling that Prince Charles is a champagne socialist … a shudder went through me when I thought about it .

      1. No I don’t. He has far too many business interests tied up in the Duchy to be any sort of socialist. He does have a keen social conscience though, and it is this that gets him into trouble from time to time with his detractors.

        The uncomfortable truth that confronts him when his mother dies, is that a constitutional monarch must unite the nation and the Commonwealth he reigns over, however much he may disagree with elements within it. If he wishes to get into politics as King, then abdication may be the only release for him.

        The last British king to abdicate was Edward VIII, who was not short of a few political opinions, some of which were most definitely contrary to the national interest as set by the Government of the day. As Prince of Wales, he was given some leeway to express these opinions, but constitutionally he was expected to give these up as King. History delivered what he felt about that. The second Viscount Stansgate and the 14th Earl of Home both resigned their peerages in order to enter the House of Commons. Monsignor Bruce Kent had to relinquish his religious titles in order to campaign for CND.

        My understanding of Charles is that he would give up expressing political opinions when sitting on the throne, but I also suggest that his son (elevated to become the new Prince of Wales) would take over, but on William’s terms. Whilst they largely seem to agree over the environment, William has other causes he is eager to promote before he too succumbs to the straitjacket of kingship.

      2. Charles knows perfectly well what he is calling for. He doesn’t care, because he also knows that only we, the little people, will be affected.

    2. I am a supporter of Prince Charles, even though he puts himself in peril whenever he dabbles in politics. If he claims the right to free speech, then so do his opponents, who have every right to argue with him, and the Prince loses the right to cut off their heads.

      In this case, a simple reply could be on the lines of “yes, I know that sending dinghy passengers without proper entry papers to Rwanda is appalling. It’s supposed to be, to send a message to others who choose this method to register their claim for asylum. If it wasn’t appalling, then it would not be a deterrent.”.

      I do feel in a number of cases paraded the BBC, such as that Iranian policeman who fled for his life after refusing to fire on protesters, and fearing harsh treatment by Rwandan officials, since relations between Iran and Rwanda are not great, that an asylum visa application should be considered and granted if appropriate. The British Embassy in Rwanda, in collaboration with international agencies, should be available and willing to process his application, rather than “throwing away the key”. This then gives him the proper entry papers, and he can fight his way through Heathrow like any other international traveller.

      Addendum – I am somewhat concerned that a private conversation between the Prince and one of his associates ended up splashed all over the media. If it was private, then it should not have been reported. Whatever others may say about the Prince of Wales, he has the right to privacy same as the rest of us, and what is said privately should remain private. I am sure there are many things the Queen might have said to her husband that could have appalled her subjects had they got out, but she and her courtiers made sure they never did. One of the first rules of any servant or any friend of a famous person is never to eavesdrop and then report private goings-on. Total discretion is essential.

      1. Good morning, Jeremy

        I take your point about the PoW’s right to privacy but he must know that many people in the UK are becoming increasingly alarmed by his expression of political views so he has to be far more careful in what he says particularly when so many people use deliberate “leaks” to get their views out in the open.

        His son, Prince William is following the same dangerous path on political matters and the pair of them are, in my view, putting the future of the monarchy into serious peril.

        1. I think their public meddling is just the tip of the iceberg, unfortunately. Charles is hand in glove with the WEF and the Windsors were named by Dr Zelenko as one of the shadowy families behind it.

          1. Yes, that is the worry. The RF have had lackeys round them all their lives and know when to speak ‘privately’. If Chuck uttered these words ‘privately’ he did it in the full knowledge that they would become public.
            Much as I loathed the Blair regime, it was not the job of the monarch to directly criticise its policies; advise and warn by all means, but not place yourself in open opposition to an elected government. This is a dangerous route for a constitutional monarch to pursue.

        2. Good morning, Rastus.

          If that clown continues his political interference after he accedes the throne, I am quite willing to stand before a magistrate and relinquish the oath of allegiance to the Crown that I made back in November 1973.

          If the Crown turns traitor to the realm then I shall not support it. I might even do a Cromwell and become a Roundhead!

          1. Good morning, my friend

            Is circumcision becoming fashionable again in Sweden for gentiles and infidels as well as for Jews and Muslims for whom it is compulsory?

          2. I wouldn’t have the foggiest idea, sir. Todgers seldom come up in conversation within my social circle.

            Especially last night when I was the only man in a room full of females.

          3. Good morning, my friend

            Is circumcision becoming fashionable again in Sweden for gentiles and infidels as well as for Jews and Muslims for whom it is compulsory?

        3. The tide was turning when Blair politicised the “Supreme Court”, and the Lords have been turning political for a while.

          I have argued for a while that the Lords should set a precedent to remove political patronage of all our national institutions by removing party allegiances within the Upper House, making them all cross-benchers. As well as the monarchy, I would include the military, the courts, the police, the civil service, the established church, national heritage foundations and the national broadcaster.

          As a former Civil Servant myself, I am well used to the Chinese wall one must put between one’s personal opinion, which may be political, and one’s official opinion, which may well conflict with one’s personal reservations, but must take precedence when acting in an official capacity.

          This then leads to the Nurenburg defence “I was only obeying orders”, which removed the requirement to act according to one’s conscience, letting Gestapo officers off the hook.

          When would you draw the line between official duty and personal conscience?

    3. I am a supporter of Prince Charles, even though he puts himself in peril whenever he dabbles in politics. If he claims the right to free speech, then so do his opponents, who have every right to argue with him, and the Prince loses the right to cut off their heads.

      In this case, a simple reply could be on the lines of “yes, I know that sending dinghy passengers without proper entry papers to Rwanda is appalling. It’s supposed to be, to send a message to others who choose this method to register their claim for asylum. If it wasn’t appalling, then it would not be a deterrent.”.

      I do feel in a number of cases paraded the BBC, such as that Iranian policeman who fled for his life after refusing to fire on protesters, and fearing harsh treatment by Rwandan officials, since relations between Iran and Rwanda are not great, that an asylum visa application should be considered and granted if appropriate. The British Embassy in Rwanda, in collaboration with international agencies, should be available and willing to process his application, rather than “throwing away the key”. This then gives him the proper entry papers, and he can fight his way through Heathrow like any other international traveller.

  7. ‘Morning, Peeps.

    A tropical 15°C here and the promise of full sun all day.

    Today’s leading letter:

    SIR – The government move to make gas boilers illegal by 2035 will not solve the cost-of-living crisis, but make it worse for homeowners. Many older properties will becoming unviable.

    I have a 100-year-old detached house. I have investigated the cost of conversion to an air-source heat pump, the only realistic alternative to gas at present. This is not as simple as just installing new equipment. It will also require enlarging all the radiators, with bigger diameter supply piping because of a lower water temperature.

    Heat loss through the outside walls must be reduced if the electric running cost is to be roughly similar to gas. This will mean stripping off the plaster in every room, fitting insulation panels, then re-plastering.

    The estimated total cost of the conversion is £100,000. We cannot afford this and very few families can – a proposed £5,000 reduction in the cost of installation will do little to help.

    There must be a better way forward, maybe involving hydrogen boilers. Without this, there is a real possibility that all detached and semi-detached houses built more than 60 years ago will become uninhabitable. That will have a very serious effect on the housing stock available.

    Andrew Robinson
    Ecclesfield, South Yorkshire

    Well spotted, Mr Anderson, and welcome to the Nottler World of Reality!

    1. Nicked

      Air source heat pumps.

      Legislation MUST be passed now, that all Sitting and Prospective Members of Parliament have this type of boiler fitted to
      their dwellins(s), at personal cost to themselves, (ie no HoC expense accounts used) before the can offer themselves for election/re-election.

      That way, when a ‘Green’ matter is there, they have an understanding of the cost etc.

      The same criteria should apply to Snivel Servants involved in any compliance regulations

    2. Better still, stick to hydrocarbon gas.
      Where would the hydrogen come from, and how would it get there?
      Where does the ‘leccy come from for all the new heat pumps?

      1. “Where would the hydrogen come from?”

        We used to manufacture it, in science lessons at school, using a Hoffman’s Voltameter.

      2. “Where would the hydrogen come from?”

        We used to manufacture it, in science lessons at school, using a Hoffman’s Voltameter.

      3. Electrolysis – and the electricity for that would come from ………… er ………hang on ……. er ……

    3. Better still, stick to hydrocarbon gas.
      Where would the hydrogen come from, and how would it get there?
      Where does the ‘leccy come from for all the new heat pumps?

    4. The issue I have with heat pumps is that it requires a constant input of energy in order to return three times that in heat. I have a 6kW wood burner in my living room. This is fuelled by wood cut from the hedges and stacked for two years supplemented by a load of logs from my neighbour, cut from thinnings in the woodland he manages. In other words, a biomass heating system, locally sourced and completely sustainable.

      If I were forced to put in a heat pump, in order to generate the same heat as my wood burner, I would need the equivalent of a 2-bar electric fire going at all times. How is that Green?

      1. Your woodburner, of course, is owered ultimately by the sun.
        Solar energy! What’s not to like?

      1. Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe. It is nearly (but not quite) as abundant as human stupidity.

        1. Yes, but it’s very reactive, leaks easily etc. Totally unnecessary when we already have fossil fuels.

  8. 353107+ up ticks,

    Morning Each,

    Boilers, boilers, ? the way the majority of the electorate are demonised as in riddled through with criminal insanity we will be reverting to the hole in the hovel roof type exit for the smoke, created by the central heating, AKA the fire in the middle of the room.

    Saturday 11 June: Our houses will be made uninhabitable when the boilers that heat them are outlawed

    Is it mandatory that we accept this or are there other options to be viewed, as in kicking the lab/lib/con mass uncontrolled immigration /
    (ongoing) paedophile umbrella (ongoing) coalition into touch.

    1. 353107+ up ticks,

      O2O,
      Give credit where due that old down voter paedophile fan is about early.

  9. SIR – Outlawing domestic gas boilers is not the only measure that Sir John Armitt, the chairman of the National Infrastructure Commission, advocates. But he fails to address the key issue: that one cannot rationally support electrifying life without considering where the electricity will come from.

    The National Grid is fundamentally dependent on gas-fired generation. First, gas provides some 40 per cent of output. Secondly, it is the dependable element, the backup when wind and sun fail. Thirdly, it gives the ability to increase output almost instantly as load increases or supply falls.

    There is nothing in prospect which can replace gas-fired generation as a major element.

    And since it takes three units of gas to deliver one unit of electricity, a corollary is that high gas prices inevitably mean high electricity prices. So the essential need, if we are to reach net-zero, is to find some replacement for those three functions of gas. What are we doing towards this?

    In the meantime, if I replace my gas boiler with a heat pump, we simply burn gas in a power station instead of in my boiler – perhaps less efficiently.

    Mike Keatinge
    Sherborne, Dorset

    Good, keep them coming Mr Keatinge. The more people who can see beyond today, the better…

    1. The agenda to get us all onto electricity alone has one goal and that is to control us.

    2. Ah, the word “rationally” in the same sentence as impartial government catspaw.

  10. SIR – I have a trusty warhorse, a cast-iron Rayburn from the year 2000. It heats the water and many radiators, and cooks and bakes to perfection.

    I live in a rural area and I am not in a position to invest in an alternative at the moment. What can I do? I’m careful with how I use it, as it isn’t cheap, but, though 22 years old, it is expertly serviced and will, no doubt, outlive me.

    It will certainly add to my “cost of living” if I have to replace it.

    For goodness’ sake, can someone get real about all of these bonkers suggestions before it’s a done deal?

    Avril Wright
    Snettisham, Norfolk

    We live in hope, Avril!

    1. Presumably, Avril’s Rayburn is oil-fired since she mentions it isn’t cheap (unless she means to replace it, rather than operate it).

  11. SIR – There should be no more votes of confidence in Boris Johnson.

    Provision for such votes was introduced in 1998. They produce pyrrhic victories for unpopular, embattled prime ministers, who are rescued from defeat by the payroll vote. Theresa May discovered that in December 2018, six months before her resignation. Her successor has now been taught a similar lesson.

    The change made in 1998 should be scrapped. Serous disaffection among MPs can only be overcome by a leadership election. The 1922 Committee should recast the rules so that an election is triggered when a substantial number of backbenchers – say 20 per cent – call for one.

    If several rounds of voting are needed, they should take place rapidly. After all, the electors will already be very familiar with the merits and shortcomings of the candidates. Members of the party in the constituencies would be carefully consulted.

    The whole process could be completed within three weeks. The Conservative Party used to pride itself on its ability to get rid of unsuccessful leaders quickly. It needs to regain the habit.

    Lord Lexden
    London SW1

    Quite so Lord L, and the longer this farce continues the greater the damage whenever the next GE takes place. It is surely clear now to most Tory MPs that Johnson is an electoral liability, so stop pretending and bite the bullet – the glory days of winning a large majority with him are well and truly over.

    1. My view, which I have expressed here before, is that if Boris Johnson truly wants to leave behind a decent legacy he must do his best to speed Lord Frost’s election to the House of Commons and then rally support for him to succeed as prime minister when Johnson himself gracefully retires. If Johnson holds on by his fingernails until he is forcibly ousted and someone like Hunt replaces him then Boris Johnson will have left no legacy behind him at all other than a botched Brexit.

      The trouble with this scenario is that it requires a greater man and a man with less vanity, hubris, sense of the common good and sheer pig-headedness than Boris Johnson is.

  12. SIR – It is helpful of David Frost to call for a Bill to sunset EU law, as it is a useful reminder that the Queen’s Speech included such a Bill.

    Indeed, it began, embryonically, while Lord Frost was still in office and, thanks to the Prime Minister’s enthusiastic support, is now nearing completion for a July introduction.

    Jacob Rees-Mogg MP (Con)
    Minister for Brexit Opportunities
    London SW1

    Shame on you, Moggy…obviously job first and country last in your case!

    1. I believe that Napoleon described Talleyrand as: a lump of shit in a silk stocking. I wonder why Grease Slime springs to mind.

      As we were reminded on GB News last night both Boris Johnson and JRM voted in favour of May’s disastrous WA on its third reading. Neither Plug Ugly nor Lord Snooty can be trusted on the subject of the EU.

  13. SIR – The national event for Armed Forces Day this year is being held in Scarborough on Saturday June 25. The seaside town was to have held the event in 2020, postponed to 2021, when the pandemic did its worst.

    Now the RMT union has decided to call a national railway strike that day.

    With no trains on June 21, 23 and 25, many people will no longer be able to attend Armed Forces Day, some of whom were doubtless intending to make a weekend or more of it.

    It’s ironic that merchant seafarers who plan to attend Armed Forces Day will probably suffer considerable inconvenience owing to this maritime trade union’s selfishness.

    I expect Scarborough, like many seaside towns, was hoping for a good summer, with small businesses trying to recover some of two years’ losses.

    The RMT has links to the Labour Party, but doing what’s best for British people – forget it.

    Lester May
    London NW1

  14. There’s a new breed of young, violent, far-right activist in Britain: ‘white jihadists. 11 June 2022.

    We (thankfully) haven’t witnessed a successful large-scale act of terrorism from a far-right extremist since the 1999 London nail bombings. However in the years since National Action was proscribed, 70 people have been convicted of far-right terror offences, including many who had plotted and prepared to carry out acts of murder and terrorism. We must be vigilant and educate ourselves to this new terror threat, if we are to prevent atrocities in the future.

    No there isn’t! So why all this twaddle? The truth is that there is no far-right threat and to all intents and purposes there never has been. It does however provide a useful distraction from Islamic Terrorism which is real and growing! This piece, as if you wouldn’t know, is by Hate not Hope a government financed propaganda outfit

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jun/11/far-right-activists-britain-white-jihadists-neo-nazi-national-action-jailed

      1. I researched their contributors some time ago, at the time when Farage was being harassed in Edinburgh High Street.. The money does not come to them directly but via other “charities”. The Trade Unions also contribute, as far as I can recall

    1. There are 3.5 million Muslims in the UK. Let us suppose that just 0.1% of them are primed and ready for violent action. That’s 3,500, 50 times the number of ‘white jihadists’ [sic] convicted of offences since 1999. And that 70 is less than the number of people murdered in just two incidents in the UK (I think it is safe to describe the July 2005 attacks as one as it was a joint venture planned for that one day).

      I think we know where lies the greater threat public safety.

      1. And, William, if the police continue to turn a blind eye to Muslim excesses, the only alternative is Martial Law and the immediate arrest and imprisonment of all the Imams, known jihadists and co-conspirators, while encouraging a form of kristalnacht to burn all mosques and start deporting all the gimmegrunts in their luxury hotels.

        When the benefits are stopped, watch the mass exodus by any means possible.

        Who knows I might set myself up as a people-smuggler and relieve them of their wealth before they leave.

  15. SIR – Typically, the Government will bring a knife to the gunfight with the RMT. That is better, I suppose, than Sir Keir Starmer would bring.

    It’s time the railways were closed for a fortnight, and if that doesn’t convince the RMT to change tack, then a month. The pain must be endured.

    Bob Duncan
    Reading, Berkshire

    But…but…that would take employers and a government with balls, Mr Duncan. Fighting fire with fire died out in 1990 when Mrs T was booted out.

        1. Smell choker saved you: the correct spelling is T u r d (followed by ‘s’ if feeling really truthful).

          1. Further down the article it says several woke D.A’s in other American cities had their campaigns funded by the greatest stinking turd, George Soros.

    1. I think Bells Palsy was one of the listed side effects of the jab which seems to be similar to what Justin B has developed. Although he links his condition to a low immune system allowing shingles to emerge. Monkey pox, shingles, compromised immune system, quite a few dots to join there.

  16. SIR – As the owner of Herdwick sheep, may I second Jennifer Kelly’s praise of this magnificent breed (Letters, June 6).

    Many do indeed live on the Lakeland Fells and many that don’t – including mine – share that desire to live there, taking every opportunity to test both my fencing and patience!

    Michael Cleary
    Bulmer, North Yorkshire

    This letter reminds me of an amusing event on the Lakeland fells near Rosthwaite many years ago.  I had just carefully closed and secured a gate when a woman appeared and promptly opened it.  She seemed to be waiting for something.  When I gently enquired, she explained that Jack, a local sheepdog, would appear shortly, to bring the flock through.  Looking back at the fells behind us there he was, bringing the sheep down at full tilt.  They were soon through the gate and disappeared. 

    “What happens now?” I asked.  She said that some other locals will do the same to three more gates along his route so that Jack can get the sheep through to the farm for milking.  This was apparently a daily routine, and when the milking was over Jack would return them to their original field.

    Sure enough, a couple of hours later in my walk I saw Jack and his flock leaving the farm and heading back to their pasture.  I found it quite amazing, and still do, that a sheepdog could carry out such a task where the only human assistance required was to open the gates between pasture and farm.  I was told that the distance involved was just over a mile.  (I can’t now recall the breed but they were not Herdwicks.)

    1. Fantastic!
      A tale like that shows that not everything is wrong in the world!

  17. The banstubators are out in force for the TT races again after another two people died yesterday doing what they loved of their own free will..
    What next,moutaineering,parachuting??
    Presumably they’ll only be happy when we all sit on our couches and eat ourselves to death with KFC McDonalds etc
    Now there’s an idea……..

    1. Two or three competitors are killed every year on average. The average speed for the entire circuit is 130 mph. Fifty years ago I went round the circuit on “Mad Sunday”, the day that is open to anyone, one day only, and it seemed every biker in the UK was there.
      It was always going to be a target for those who think we should all be wrapped in cotton wool. It is the willing competitors who die, not spectators.

    1. The fundamental problem is it’s the same people making the same mistakes every single exact same time.

      The sort of person who wants office is the exact sort to never let near it. They’ve achieved nothing, built nothing, done nothing. They are rent seekers, parasites troughing at other people’s expense. If they couldn’t do that, and we controlled them through referism, recall and direct democracy the country simply wouldn’t be in this mess. The solution is simple and obvious: hang every single politician of the last 20 years.

  18. MAKING BABIES

    The Smiths were unable to conceive children and decided to use a surrogate father to start their family. On the day the proxy father was to arrive, Mr. Smith kissed his wife goodbye and said,
    ‘Well, I’m off now. The man should be here soon.’

    Half an hour later, just by chance, a door-to-door baby photographer happened to ring the doorbell, hoping to make a sale.
    ‘Good morning, he said, “I’ve come to…”
    “Oh, no need to explain,” Mrs. Smith cut in, embarrassed, “I’ve been expecting you.”
    ‘Have you really?” Said the photographer. “Well, that’s good. Did you know babies are my specialty?”
    “Well that’s what my husband and I had hoped. Please come in and have a seat.”
    After a moment she asked, blushing, “Well, where do we start?”
    “Leave everything to me. I usually try two in the bathtub, one on the couch, and perhaps a couple on the bed. And sometimes the living room floor is fun. You can really spread out there.”
    “Bathtub, living room floor? No wonder it didn’t work out for Harry and me!”
    “Well, none of us can guarantee a good one every time. But if we try several different positions and I shoot from six or seven angles, I’m sure you’ll be pleased with the results.”
    “My, that’s a lot!” Gasped Mrs. Smith.
    “In my line of work a man has to take his time. I’d love to be In and out in five minutes, but I’m sure you’d be disappointed with that.”
    “Don’t I know it,” said Mrs. Smith quietly.
    The photographer opened his briefcase and pulled out a portfolio of his baby pictures. “This was done on the top of a bus,” he said.
    “Oh, my God!” Mrs. Smith exclaimed, grasping at her throat.
    “And these twins turned out exceptionally well, when you consider their mother was so difficult to work with.”
    “She was difficult?” Asked Mrs. Smith.
    “Yes, I’m afraid so. I finally had to take her to the park to get the job done right. People were crowding around four and five deep to get a good look.”
    “Four and five deep?” Said Mrs. Smith, her eyes wide with amazement.
    “Yes”, the photographer replied, “And for more than three hours, too. The mother was constantly squealing and yelling I could hardly concentrate, and when darkness approached I had to rush my shots. Finally, when the squirrels began nibbling on my equipment, I just had to pack it all in.”
    Mrs. Smith leaned forward. “Do you mean they actually chewed on your, uh .. . . .equipment?”
    “It’s true, yes. Well, if you’re ready, I’ll set-up my tripod and we can get to work right away.”
    “Tripod?”
    “Oh yes, I need to use a tripod to rest my Canon on. It’s much too big to be held in the hand for very long.”
    Mrs. Smith fainted.

    1. Winston and Lulubelle had just got married and were driving home after the ceremony in their Austin Mini. Lulubelle was just as excited as her husband and caressed him intimately as they drove along. When they arrived Lullubelle jumped out of the car, rushed into the house, undressed and ran upstairs but Winston stayed in the car. Lullubelle was piqued that Winston was not showing enough enthusiasm and she called out:

      “Winston baby. Don’t be shy. Come and join me. If you don’t hurry up I’ll lose the inclination.”

      To which Winston replied:

      “Lulubelle, honey, if I don’t lose my inclination I’ll never be able to get out of this mini.”

  19. Police in Dundee are guarding the statue of DESPERATE DAN following a tip-off that it will be pulled down by a horde of angry Vegan & Vegetarian protesters

    1. Replace it with the womens team, as they are playing like a bunch of jessies nobody will notice except their performance will be better

    2. One of my best friends, Steve Tomlin who is the father of one of my godsons and was captain of the UEA XV in the 1960s now writes biographies of rugby players such as England prop Stack Stevens with whom he packed down in the front row with the Penzance Pirates. Another front row forward, John Pullin, was captain of England and Steve has written a biography of him entitled At Least We Turn Up . This refers to the fact that the England Team was soundly beaten in Dublin during the Troubles and the fact that the other sides in the 5 Nations Championship (as it was then) were afraid to go to Dublin.

      https://www.amberley-books….

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a4fdc1b303fd2b3e6eac6a182a1e196ee30204f0175320587e6cf11235e5c8aa.jpg

    3. One of my best friends, Steve Tomlin who is the father of one of my godsons and was captain of the UEA XV in the 1960s now writes biographies of rugby players such as England prop Stack Stevens with whom he packed down in the front row with the Penzance Pirates. Another front row forward, John Pullin, was captain of England and Steve has written a biography of him entitled At Least We Turn Up . This refers to the fact that the England Team was soundly beaten in Dublin during the Troubles and the fact that the other sides in the 5 Nations Championship (as it was then) were afraid to go to Dublin.

      https://www.amberley-books….

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a4fdc1b303fd2b3e6eac6a182a1e196ee30204f0175320587e6cf11235e5c8aa.jpg

      1. 2122: Michael Heseltine writes article the The Digital Telegraph saying the European nations should re-create the EU. “We never had it so good” insists Hezza, 283.

        1. HE might never had had it so good. Which is more than could be said for the rest of us, and the country as a whole. Selfish, corrupt, braggard.

      2. Unfortunately, he seems to possess the ‘undead’ characteristic, along with Ken Clarke.

    1. The latest edition of Crosstalk on RT features a good discussion on the EU pursuit of cultural Marxist ideology. Everything they do fails yet they’ll pursue it to the death.

      1. When you look at the type of person an organisation like the EU attracts – the power mad, lazy, greedy, venal, uncharismatic, petty and plain incompetent – you can also see what they likely believe in: big state – to protect their venal, incompetence and get them power.

        Such poisonous, rancid organsiations as the Eu are their natural home. That’s why the best thing that could be done for the EU is nuclear fire.

      1. I think we should buy a hulk – one of those rusting ones the Indians dismantle – and arrange for all remoaners, all Lefties, all greeniacs, all gimmigrants, the welfare classes to go aboard as a WEF conference centre.

        Once it’s out to sea, blow the engines and set fire to it.

          1. I have an even more radical one – see my reply to William Stanier vis-a-vis martial law.

    2. Pity government have sabotaged the opportunity. It could have been good, but the Blob doesn’t want it to be a success, so…

    1. Some people, I know, are a bit snooty about them but funnily enough I have just bought an iceberg lettuce at my local supermarket for €0.99 (85 P) and a couple of avocados for €0.60 (51 P) each. Mixed up with sliced tomatoes, sliced cucumber, sliced pieces of apple, sliced onion and sliced hard boiled eggs with my special Sauce Richardais I make a salad which is extremely popular with our students – many of whom want the recipe.

      1. Oh go on – could we have your recipe for Sauce Richardais please? (or it is a Rich sauce?)

      2. Oh go on – could we have your recipe for Sauce Richardais please? (or it is a Rich sauce?)

    2. What’s that??
      10 Quid for a lettuce? How much do need to you like lettuce, for goodness sake?
      If things are getting that bad you’d do better to stock up on calories.

    3. US import duties have absolutely collapsed which implies that well, imports have as well.

    1. A good Texan mate, Barry, retired a few years ago from the oil & gas business (wow) – engineering consultancy, and now ranches beef cattle in Venezuela.
      That smacks of getting your priorities right.

      1. That has to be hard work being a gaucho but definitely more satisfying than working in an air-conditioned office. Great barbies too.

        1. Hard freakin’ work, but out in the fresh air, good food, your own boss… 😀

          1. Well, a churrasco is Argentinian and a caipirinho is Brazilian. Will they have either in Venezuela?

  20. Russia slashes interest rates in scramble to weaken the rouble

    Moscow has slashed interest rates back to pre-invasion levels as officials try to weaken the rouble.

    The Central Bank of Russia (CBR) cut its benchmark borrowing rate by 1.5 percentage points to 9.5pc, and signalled further reductions may be coming.

    Officials have now fully reversed an emergency increase to 20pc intended to tame inflation in the early weeks of the Ukraine conflict.

    You have to laugh! WE are applying the sanctions and the £UK is dropping like a stone while inflation gallops up to double figures! A litre of petrol in Moscow is a third of what it is here!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/06/10/russia-slashes-interest-rates-scramble-weaken-rouble/

    1. Russia has been running a huge Current Account surplus … Presumably, it doesn’t have to bother much about Foreign Capital funds.

        1. Unlikely I’d have thought! The ‘rainbow’ tw*ts are a bit limp-wristed!

      1. A pox on both of ’em.
        Oh wait a moment…the WEF is looking after that, too…

        1. The mincers tend to have jobs. The muzzies don’t. Too busy praying to their false prophet.

          1. Why have a job when you can boycott cinemas (I don’t mean boycott – if only – I mean intimidate cinema managers) pray, prey on young white girls all day, and then slice kebabs/drive a minicab/prey on young white girls all night?

  21. I have just been to a car boot sale, and among other things, have bought a fabulous vintage black handbag like the Queen’s! No maker’s mark, but it is obviously expensive and old, and has been very well looked after.
    I am going to take it to every family wedding from now on to impress the younger generation! Just call me Lady Bracknell 🙂

  22. 353107+ up ticks,

    A Great Mystery: Civil Servants Told ‘Woman’, ‘Female’ Cannot be Defined

    This can be taken as fact as ALL civil servants known to me as ( dollys)
    are lacking in mothers so cannot give a true definition.
    i

    1. Maybe standards have fallen so far that they’ve lost all the dictionaries?

      Truly society is insane. It will revert once the madness becomes so extreme as to be intolerable.

      1. 353107+ up ticks,

        Morning W,
        I do beg to differ slightly, it will only revert back over the dead body of the lab/lib/con mass uncontrolled immigration / paedophile umbrella coalition party & the criminally insane electoral majority voter won’t oblige.

        CATCH 22.

    2. More to the point, the way most Snivel Serpents behave, they have no (known) fathers

      1. 353107+ up ticks,

        Afternoon OLT,
        Test tube ( experimental ) babies
        ( yet another failure)

  23. Good morning, afternoon NoTTLers! (Where does the time go?)
    This is a rather telling confirmation of the dross we have in Parliament. Rude, arrogant children who have no idea of government and certainly should not be allowed near the legislative process that rules us. It is short, and goes further than the “don’t shout at me” clip at the beginning: worth seeing through the 4 minutes 49 seconds to the end.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAfezwcSV_A

    1. Only one word for the likes of Lisa Nandy and I borrow from the other Labour proponent, they are, in her own words, scum.

    2. Wow! One corrupt member of parliament calling an other corrupt member of parliament “corrupt” … in the house of corruption! Whatever next?

      1. It was more the childish general behaviour that accompanied the name-calling I was referring to. Agreed that one corrupt pol calling another corrupt wasn’t much in itself.

  24. Good morning, afternoon NoTTLers! (Where does the time go?)
    This is a rather telling confirmation of the dross we have in Parliament. Rude, arrogant children who have no idea of government and certainly should not be allowed near the legislative process that rules us. It is short, and goes further than the “don’t shout at me” clip at the beginning: worth seeing through the 4 minutes 49 seconds to the end.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAfezwcSV_A

  25. Dear Richard Madeley: ‘My assistant stinks – but I don’t have the heart to tell him’
    As The Telegraph’s Agony Uncle, I weigh in on your dilemmas – the good, the bad and the ugly

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/family/life/dear-richard-madeley-assistant-stinks-dont-have-heart-tell/
    BTL

    We all suffer from bad breath and bad body odour from time to time. If for example I am a bit whiffy or if I have dragon breath then my wife or a friend will tell me and I shall not be offended and I shall go and have a wash or clean my teeth.

    But why is it that people who always stink are the sort of people to whom it is very difficult to say anything because you know they would be mortally offended if you did?

  26. 353107+ up ticks,

    Maybe farage & many of the criminally insane electorate could be right
    putting down this Batten fella and the so far right party he was successfully building, if a fraction of what he says were fact there would surely be major bloodletting, surely..

    May one ask what is the true density of the electoral herd when viewed as a whole.

    Post
    Gerard Batten
    @gjb2021
    ·
    12m
    The World’s advanced economies are being deconstructed. This is being done under the false doctrine of man-made climate change.

    The result will be poverty, suffering, famine, & premature death for millions.

    The purpose of all this is to subjugate populations to rule by a Globalist elite who control all resources & chose how to allocate them.

    If you vote Tory, Labour, Lib-Dem or Green you are signing your own political death warrant. Voting may not make any difference but at least don’t actively support those who want to destroy your lives

    1. Every single nation that is rich, happy, has low taxes, small, constrained government, high property ownership, low welfare and a stable currency is based on market capital.

      Capitalism works. Cronyism and big state do not. Down that route leads misery, poverty and death.

        1. No, I’m not going to do your homework for you. The information is there. Stop pretending big state socialism is rational. It’s the practice of the deranged, insane and stupid.

          1. The happiest nation is Finland and has been now for several years. Its economy isn’t anything like that which you describe. You’re probably thinking of Singapore, a highly authoritarian government with a large poverty problem. In fact your description doesn’t match anywhere in Europe, anywhere in North America, China, Japan. Most of Africa is poor. Oh I get it, South Korea??

      1. 353107+ up ticks,
        Afternoon W,
        I do not believe that the overseers of the big state give a damn in regards to the lab/lib/con coalition how many of their supporting fools , sorry, members die as long as DOVER is operating as a top up.

  27. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2a0b33b33d98ff6877ebbe73c8ce858cfcf87e43ce1ba3ef390ff4a4ccdbb748.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c1b16b44cd8877f41a4ab3ca763bf714ede7b820679d691cf95b2c0f740d8577.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ed836320b4321ee94d00d519d02c0b7f44c2303bf19871dd0571aeda1a36a049.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/abc21cac1a1701c0c9bc3cb3bd12d180bc3bc27289a7c53e255ad3851f7eb462.jpg I’ve been royally entertained this morning/afternoon when a family of White Wagtails Motacilla alba alba decamped on the lawn for a feeding session. Two adults were feeding four fledglings, all of which were showing signs of independence, flying strongly and feeding themselves as well as continuing to beg food from their parents. An utterly enchanting hour’s entertainment they provided.

    1. How lovely, Grizz!
      Firstborn’s farm is filled with wagtails, and as of last weekend, Martins and swifts. when a bird goes past yor head with a whoosh! and a loud “Piip” of satisfaction, it’s really enjoyable!

      1. When swifts come swooping through very low with their screams they remind me of the X-wing fighters in Star Wars.

    1. A birdie for me.
      Wordle 357 3/6

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    2. First Effin’ Failure for me …
      Wordle 357 X/6

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      1. I sympathise. You can see what happened here.
        Wordle 357 6/6

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      2. I’ve only missed one, and it hurts. A lot of it is luck when there are choices, as you know.

  28. Wish i was more technologically minded. I would post a picture of Gloriana on her way from Hampton Court to the Tower, and the accompanying boats. Sadly you will have to imagine it. Sorry.

  29. Fancy having to do the sub-ed’s work for the writer…

    Religious Islamic mobs are a threat to British democracy

    The silencing of artists by fundamentalist protesters undermines our social cohesion

    SARA KHAN • 9 June 2022 • 6:00am

    In a diverse democracy like Britain, which accommodates a variety of political and religious beliefs and practices, maintaining social cohesion will always be a challenge.

    Such differences mean tensions are bound to emerge and our core democratic values will be tested. What matters is how our public institutions, parliamentarians and government respond to these disputes. Demonstrating leadership is critical.

    No such leadership has been on show in regard to the protests in recent days outside cinemas across the country, demanding that screenings of the film The Lady of Heaven be banned.

    The film tells the story of an Iraqi boy who is orphaned when his mother is executed by Isis militants, and goes on to chronicle the life of the Prophet Mohammed’s daughter.

    On Wednesday, Cineworld bowed to the protestors’ demands, saying it had done so to “ensure the safety of our staff and customers”. In other words, this wasn’t a choice – Cineworld was bullied and took action out of fear.

    Thirty-four years on from the Salman Rushdie affair, when Muslim authorities decried his novel, The Satanic Verses, as blasphemous, it is clear that religious Islamic sensibility can still provoke fear, paralysis and too often an unwillingness to defend artistic liberty and wider freedom of expression.

    There are several more recent and high-profile examples of closed-minded mobs getting their own way. In 2004, the play Behzti, written by British Sikh playwright Gurpreet Kaur Bhatti, was cancelled halfway through its run after protests by Sikhs who objected to it. Despite receiving death threats, Bhatti was willing to endure the venom of the protestors, but was shattered when the Birmingham Repertory Theatre cancelled her run.

    Last year a religious studies teacher in Batley, West Yorkshire, was accused of blasphemy and went into hiding with his children after religious Islamic protestors demonstrated outside his school and a Muslim charity released his name online. An independent investigation cleared him of wrongdoing, yet his life was changed forever while the perpetrators continued with life as normal.

    Explicit attempts are being made to prevent films and plays from being shown. I have heard directly from people who believe this has created a climate of censorship and had a chilling impact on freedom of expression, including within religious communities. Rather than being defended, artistic freedom is curtailed.

    It’s easy to criticise Cineworld for its limp response, but questions must be asked over what support it received from local and central government, MPs and even the police. Despite claims that the protests were peaceful, video evidence appears to show a hate-speech mob made up of dozens of Muslim men Pakistani Sunni Islamists chanting sectarian anti-Shia slurs through megaphones.

    While questions have been raised in the past about the sectarian activity of the film’s writer, Yasser Al-Habib, the threatening nature of these protests and the attempt to restrict other people’s right to view the film are indefensible.

    For years, MPs, local authorities and central government have failed to defend our democratic values with sufficient vigour. I have seen how religious Islamic mobs have been appeased, in the hope that protests disperse – a tactic that often works in the short term. But this represents a failure of leadership, and only galvanises fundamentalists, who now know that if they engage in such behaviour their unreasonable demands will be met. In the long run, as our democratic values are eroded, social cohesion in our country will be dangerously undermined.

    I do not deny that these incidents are emotionally charged and can feel overwhelming, but we clearly need better support for our institutions and communities to help them stand firm against such divisive activity. This is why I am currently conducting a review and recently launched a call for evidence. I want to hear from local authorities and members of the public, and welcome submissions from them.

    We cannot take our country’s cohesion for granted. We can and must improve our defence of the democratic rights that form the bedrock of our nation.

    Dame Sara Khan is the Independent Adviser to the Government on Social Cohesion and Resilience

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/09/religious-mobs-threat-british-democracy/

    And what is ‘cohesion’?

    1. This has to stop! No more excuses, no more cowardice from the supposed people in “charge”.
      If these people do not like it here….

        1. Ah, but they do like it here. Bennies for life, free house, as many brats as they want, an entire state supporting them, they get to kick off and shout whatever they want.

          Frankly, ban that hateful call to prayer. Blow every last one up. Have their mosks forced to mix men and women – and for hygiene, they have ot wear shoes. No cultural dress, if they don’t like it, let them leave.

          1. …and then you “woke” up – it’s never happen – the freedom of expression for bigoted minorities trumps our freedom to live in a country that we can recognise as ours, every time.

  30. Fancy having to do the sub-ed’s work for the writer…

    Religious Islamic mobs are a threat to British democracy

    The silencing of artists by fundamentalist protesters undermines our social cohesion

    SARA KHAN • 9 June 2022 • 6:00am

    In a diverse democracy like Britain, which accommodates a variety of political and religious beliefs and practices, maintaining social cohesion will always be a challenge.

    Such differences mean tensions are bound to emerge and our core democratic values will be tested. What matters is how our public institutions, parliamentarians and government respond to these disputes. Demonstrating leadership is critical.

    No such leadership has been on show in regard to the protests in recent days outside cinemas across the country, demanding that screenings of the film The Lady of Heaven be banned.

    The film tells the story of an Iraqi boy who is orphaned when his mother is executed by Isis militants, and goes on to chronicle the life of the Prophet Mohammed’s daughter.

    On Wednesday, Cineworld bowed to the protestors’ demands, saying it had done so to “ensure the safety of our staff and customers”. In other words, this wasn’t a choice – Cineworld was bullied and took action out of fear.

    Thirty-four years on from the Salman Rushdie affair, when Muslim authorities decried his novel, The Satanic Verses, as blasphemous, it is clear that religious Islamic sensibility can still provoke fear, paralysis and too often an unwillingness to defend artistic liberty and wider freedom of expression.

    There are several more recent and high-profile examples of closed-minded mobs getting their own way. In 2004, the play Behzti, written by British Sikh playwright Gurpreet Kaur Bhatti, was cancelled halfway through its run after protests by Sikhs who objected to it. Despite receiving death threats, Bhatti was willing to endure the venom of the protestors, but was shattered when the Birmingham Repertory Theatre cancelled her run.

    Last year a religious studies teacher in Batley, West Yorkshire, was accused of blasphemy and went into hiding with his children after religious Islamic protestors demonstrated outside his school and a Muslim charity released his name online. An independent investigation cleared him of wrongdoing, yet his life was changed forever while the perpetrators continued with life as normal.

    Explicit attempts are being made to prevent films and plays from being shown. I have heard directly from people who believe this has created a climate of censorship and had a chilling impact on freedom of expression, including within religious communities. Rather than being defended, artistic freedom is curtailed.

    It’s easy to criticise Cineworld for its limp response, but questions must be asked over what support it received from local and central government, MPs and even the police. Despite claims that the protests were peaceful, video evidence appears to show a hate-speech mob made up of dozens of Muslim men Pakistani Sunni Islamists chanting sectarian anti-Shia slurs through megaphones.

    While questions have been raised in the past about the sectarian activity of the film’s writer, Yasser Al-Habib, the threatening nature of these protests and the attempt to restrict other people’s right to view the film are indefensible.

    For years, MPs, local authorities and central government have failed to defend our democratic values with sufficient vigour. I have seen how religious Islamic mobs have been appeased, in the hope that protests disperse – a tactic that often works in the short term. But this represents a failure of leadership, and only galvanises fundamentalists, who now know that if they engage in such behaviour their unreasonable demands will be met. In the long run, as our democratic values are eroded, social cohesion in our country will be dangerously undermined.

    I do not deny that these incidents are emotionally charged and can feel overwhelming, but we clearly need better support for our institutions and communities to help them stand firm against such divisive activity. This is why I am currently conducting a review and recently launched a call for evidence. I want to hear from local authorities and members of the public, and welcome submissions from them.

    We cannot take our country’s cohesion for granted. We can and must improve our defence of the democratic rights that form the bedrock of our nation.

    Dame Sara Khan is the Independent Adviser to the Government on Social Cohesion and Resilience

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/09/religious-mobs-threat-british-democracy/

    And what is ‘cohesion’?

  31. Fancy having to do the sub-ed’s work for the writer…

    Religious Islamic mobs are a threat to British democracy

    The silencing of artists by fundamentalist protesters undermines our social cohesion

    SARA KHAN • 9 June 2022 • 6:00am

    In a diverse democracy like Britain, which accommodates a variety of political and religious beliefs and practices, maintaining social cohesion will always be a challenge.

    Such differences mean tensions are bound to emerge and our core democratic values will be tested. What matters is how our public institutions, parliamentarians and government respond to these disputes. Demonstrating leadership is critical.

    No such leadership has been on show in regard to the protests in recent days outside cinemas across the country, demanding that screenings of the film The Lady of Heaven be banned.

    The film tells the story of an Iraqi boy who is orphaned when his mother is executed by Isis militants, and goes on to chronicle the life of the Prophet Mohammed’s daughter.

    On Wednesday, Cineworld bowed to the protestors’ demands, saying it had done so to “ensure the safety of our staff and customers”. In other words, this wasn’t a choice – Cineworld was bullied and took action out of fear.

    Thirty-four years on from the Salman Rushdie affair, when Muslim authorities decried his novel, The Satanic Verses, as blasphemous, it is clear that religious Islamic sensibility can still provoke fear, paralysis and too often an unwillingness to defend artistic liberty and wider freedom of expression.

    There are several more recent and high-profile examples of closed-minded mobs getting their own way. In 2004, the play Behzti, written by British Sikh playwright Gurpreet Kaur Bhatti, was cancelled halfway through its run after protests by Sikhs who objected to it. Despite receiving death threats, Bhatti was willing to endure the venom of the protestors, but was shattered when the Birmingham Repertory Theatre cancelled her run.

    Last year a religious studies teacher in Batley, West Yorkshire, was accused of blasphemy and went into hiding with his children after religious Islamic protestors demonstrated outside his school and a Muslim charity released his name online. An independent investigation cleared him of wrongdoing, yet his life was changed forever while the perpetrators continued with life as normal.

    Explicit attempts are being made to prevent films and plays from being shown. I have heard directly from people who believe this has created a climate of censorship and had a chilling impact on freedom of expression, including within religious communities. Rather than being defended, artistic freedom is curtailed.

    It’s easy to criticise Cineworld for its limp response, but questions must be asked over what support it received from local and central government, MPs and even the police. Despite claims that the protests were peaceful, video evidence appears to show a hate-speech mob made up of dozens of Muslim men Pakistani Sunni Islamists chanting sectarian anti-Shia slurs through megaphones.

    While questions have been raised in the past about the sectarian activity of the film’s writer, Yasser Al-Habib, the threatening nature of these protests and the attempt to restrict other people’s right to view the film are indefensible.

    For years, MPs, local authorities and central government have failed to defend our democratic values with sufficient vigour. I have seen how religious Islamic mobs have been appeased, in the hope that protests disperse – a tactic that often works in the short term. But this represents a failure of leadership, and only galvanises fundamentalists, who now know that if they engage in such behaviour their unreasonable demands will be met. In the long run, as our democratic values are eroded, social cohesion in our country will be dangerously undermined.

    I do not deny that these incidents are emotionally charged and can feel overwhelming, but we clearly need better support for our institutions and communities to help them stand firm against such divisive activity. This is why I am currently conducting a review and recently launched a call for evidence. I want to hear from local authorities and members of the public, and welcome submissions from them.

    We cannot take our country’s cohesion for granted. We can and must improve our defence of the democratic rights that form the bedrock of our nation.

    Dame Sara Khan is the Independent Adviser to the Government on Social Cohesion and Resilience

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/09/religious-mobs-threat-british-democracy/

    And what is ‘cohesion’?

  32. Ooo… either the war has started, or the weather is about to become flashier & wetter…

  33. Yet again, shopping on Friday, SWMBO noted that the chill cabinet where the food about to go out of date is kept (the suff priced down to sell) is filled with veggie stuff – things called “vegan beef” and look like carpetburgers. What a surprise. Wonder if anyone is paying attention?
    BTW, what’s “Vegan leather” as seen for trouser belts, shoes & the like? Also, vegan shampoo? WTF??

    1. Vegan leather = plastic, shurely? Even more correctly, stuff that’s a byproduct of oil refining. In the same way that rayon used to be branded “art(ificial) silk”.

  34. Was just in the kitchen mashing spuds with fried onions in and slicing mushrooms. I’d had the door open to let the heat and steam out. A large fly appeared and was trying to muscle in on the grub. Yelled get out of my kitchen you swine…no result so got the swatter and killed the bastard. Husband came to investigate to see what provoked the cry, “Die you bastard!”
    What are you doing? he asked. Saving your dinner mate! ;-))
    It felt good.

      1. I’ve just looked at TV’s Saturday night’s offering
        …. how many times can you repeat repeats….?

        1. It’s more attractive to the oldies, they won’t remember seeing them previously.

    1. Bill Thomas’s trombetti crusade has taken root. It was on Monty Don’s gardening prog. Now everyone will be planting them. I feel he has missed a trick there.

          1. Very much his favourite destination.

            Cap d’ Ail; been going there for many years

        1. I will give him another go as i am running out of things to read. I did go cool on him last time.

          See you Sunday. Not heard a thing from Garlands in a month.

          1. Try Pat Conroy- his prose is exquisite. And a damn good story teller. I am rereading South of Broad but The Lords of Discipline, The Great Santini and Beach Music are superb. Forget Prince of Tides….didn’t like that. Oh, and The River is Wide.

      1. Cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers

          1. Prince Charles’ latest Foot-in-Mouth blunder could compromise his personal future – and the future of the Royal family.

            His mother has never expressed an opinion that conflicted with Government policy.

            BTW, what is is his relationship with the WEF?

          2. He may well be a person who has been compromised by the very pomposity and lack of morals he exudes in spite of being a figurehead of the forces he will be CiC of. Photos are probably at the ready!!

          3. He gave a speech at their conference in 2020, with a very strange logo made of three PoW feathers each composed of six strands, hanging above his head.
            As the royals are so hot on symbolism, he really should have avoided rabbiting on about sustainable economy and the peasants giving up cars to make everything better with a giant 6-6-6 above his head. Once seen, can’t be unseen.

          4. Not the first time – he is totally with the WEF (viz. photographs with various people in the past) and is either too stupid (that includes naive), or too already entrenched with them, to realise what they are working towards. I would tend towards the former, but only by about 65%. Which leaves 35%…

          5. Not the first time – he is totally with the WEF (vis. photographs with various people in the past) and is either too stupid (that includes naive), or too already entrenched with them, to realise what they are working towards. I would tend towards the former, but only by about 65%. Which leaves 35%…

          6. ‘King idiot.
            But he is popping orrff to Rwanda to meet the hierarchy soon.
            Could have been a bit of a pre planned ploy.
            World gin day today and why not. 😏🍸 a tonic for all.

    2. Just home from Bletchley Park, Christmas prezzie from daughter in law, grandson and our son ( but really from DiL as he was well out of it). Fascinating place. Would need several visits to take everything in properly. My word they were damned clever. Apparently between 9,000-12,000 people worked there. Don’t think it could ever happen again as there was no hierarchy or rules apparently. Nothing can be done these days without rules and regulations.

      Wordle 357 4/6

      ⬛⬛⬛🟩🟩
      ⬛⬛🟩🟩🟩
      ⬛🟩🟩🟩🟩
      🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

    1. Not enough – they must feed, clothe and be responsible for the crimes those illegal gimmigrants commit.

      Let’s see a parasite lawyer going to jail for paedophilia.

  35. Bogey five today

    Wordle 357 5/6

    ⬜🟩⬜🟩🟩
    ⬜🟩⬜🟩🟩
    ⬜🟩🟩🟩🟩
    ⬜🟩🟩🟩🟩
    🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

  36. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/18b784bf4523ba8d2a0289555eeaaf092dd5861f7710629d684af92c7cd5f511.png Is that so? And who the hell are you, Dizzy Lizzy, to tell us how we must eat our marmalade? Why should it be eaten only at breakfast? And only on toast? Am I forbidden, under your self-imposed, anally-retentive, “rules” from eating it on a slice of freshly-baked bread (untoasted)? And does that mean I am forbidden from using it as an ingredient in my Christmas Pudding?

    I bet you would also introduce the death penalty on those ingenues, such as me, who frivolously put jelly in our trifles!

    1. The King’s Breakfast
      AA Milne

      The King asked
      The Queen, and
      The Queen asked
      The Dairymaid:
      “Could we have some butter for
      The Royal slice of bread?”
      The Queen asked the Dairymaid,
      The Dairymaid
      Said, “Certainly,
      I’ll go and tell the cow
      Now
      Before she goes to bed.”

      The Dairymaid
      She curtsied,
      And went and told
      The Alderney:
      “Don’t forget the butter for
      The Royal slice of bread.”
      The Alderney
      Said sleepily:
      “You’d better tell
      His Majesty
      That many people nowadays
      Like marmalade
      Instead.”

      The Dairymaid
      Said, “Fancy!”
      And went to
      Her Majesty.
      She curtsied to the Queen, and
      She turned a little red:
      “Excuse me,
      Your Majesty,
      For taking of
      The liberty,
      But marmalade is tasty, if
      It’s very
      Thickly
      Spread.”

      The Queen said
      “Oh!:
      And went to
      His Majesty:
      “Talking of the butter for
      The royal slice of bread,
      Many people
      Think that
      Marmalade
      Is nicer.
      Would you like to try a little
      Marmalade
      Instead?”

      The King said,
      “Bother!”
      And then he said,
      “Oh, deary me!”
      The King sobbed, “Oh, deary me!”
      And went back to bed.
      “Nobody,”
      He whimpered,
      “Could call me
      A fussy man;
      I only want
      A little bit
      Of butter for
      My bread!”

      The Queen said,
      “There, there!”
      And went to
      The Dairymaid.
      The Dairymaid
      Said, “There, there!”
      And went to the shed.
      The cow said,
      “There, there!
      I didn’t really
      Mean it;
      Here’s milk for his porringer,
      And butter for his bread.”

      The Queen took
      The butter
      And brought it to
      His Majesty;
      The King said,
      “Butter, eh?”
      And bounced out of bed.
      “Nobody,” he said,
      As he kissed her
      Tenderly,
      “Nobody,” he said,
      As he slid down the banisters,
      “Nobody,
      My darling,
      Could call me
      A fussy man –

      BUT
      I do like a little bit of butter to my bread!”

          1. Taking a wild guess now, I expect it wasn’t just the opportunity that knocked….?

          2. I’ve come to the conclusion that you have an extremely vivid imagination…..

      1. Indeed it was, Jules, and they loved the pudding. I did have to warn them, though, that the cherries were fresh ones from my tree last year (and frozen over the winter) that still had stones in them. I normally use those de-stoned ones from a jar.

          1. After a winter in the freezer the cherries were quite soft and the stones came out onto a spoon very easily.

    1. I had already seen that elsewhere. They are all crooks and all have their own agenda.

  37. Here, in a nutshell, is why they had to have covid to put the world economy into a coma.
    The system had crashed – too much bad debt, too much fiat currency.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Wallstreetsilver/comments/va1gj0/can_we_discuss_the_45_trillion_the_fed_gave_away/

    Oh and by the way, remember “the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer” being blamed on Margaret Thatcher?
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Wallstreetsilver/comments/va4xtz/its_always_been_about_the_transfer_of_wealth_from/

  38. Forgive me but I do wish people who pontificate on news shows knew their facts. Mark Dolan on GB tonight who, personally I think is a big doofus, carrying on about Prince Charles speaking out. OK- maybe Charles should zip it but as a Royal Duke, like Andrew and William, they have the right to seats in the House of Lords, where they could cast votes. They do not. The Queen is legally entitled to vote but does not.
    Those who choose to “inform” should be informed also- yes?

    Edit- Tony tonight ;-))

  39. Am going to bed- perchance to sleep and not dream…. god I have some horrible dreams of late.
    See you at some point tomorrow- I am never sure these days….

  40. Evening, all. Had a busy day; went to a plant fair (and bought a couple of plants) at a local garden I hadn’t visited before. Stunning. Very tiring, though!

    1. Blimey, just got home. Good band at the pub. Forgot they were on, so stuck to the dry white I’d already imbibed a bit of at home Got a lot of odd looks from regulars seeing me not drinking Guinness.

    2. Blimey, just got home. Good band at the pub. Forgot they were on, so stuck to the dry white I’d already imbibed a bit of at home Got a lot of odd looks from regulars seeing me not drinking Guinness.

  41. Goodnight Gentlefolk and God Bless. Now let’s try and get more than 4 hours. I’m fed up with hearing at 03:47, the Piper at the Gates of Dawn.

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