514 thoughts on “Saturday 14 September: The scandal of Parliament holding the Government to ransom while refusing us an election”

  3. Our remain politicians and establishment figures all appear to be falling off a cliff edge over Brexit.
    Cameron’s turn for a weepy today.
    Will he sell more copies of his book than O’Brien I’m wondering.

    1. ‘Morning, Bob, Cameron displays himself only as one in a long line of failed Prime Ministers, starting with Major and his capitulation over Maastricht, followed by Blair (Immigration and undermining Parliament, the Lords and the Judiciary) Brown (failed fiscal policies and selling gold reserves) Cameron/Clegg (No boundary changes) Cameron (failed concessions from Europe but at least we got our referendum) May (sell-out of the referendum result) and they all want to Bash Boris who wants to give us that referendum result (seemingly).

      I despair.

  4. ‘Tone deaf’ ads use slave ship images to promote UK sea-going sector. Vidhi Doshi. Fri 13 Sep 2019.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a375be9e478ac379ac3a5fcaf793c0ef117681d914595de8b98e48f69f9fed73.png

    The advertisement by the Department for Transport features ships such as fluyts, the East Indiaman and the steamship, which were used between the 16th and 19th centuries to establish the British Empire, transport slaves and indentured labourers across the Atlantic and bring hauls of valuable goods to Britain.

    “This is what happens when the historical memory is limited to a narrative in which we simply abolished slavery – it is remarkably tone-deaf, never mind historically illiterate,” said Kim Wagner, historian and author.

    Morning everyone. This advertisement is a 22 second animation depicting idealised images of the types of ships used by the UK for trade during the last 400 years. Ships like trains, planes and automobiles are innocent of the purposes for which they are used. They possess no morality. If we are to ban adverts of those forms of transport that have carried out questionable activities then it’s time to get Showjumping, Virgin Atlantic and British Rail off our television screens! Kim Wagner mentioned in the quote is another of the permanently historically offended and like David Olusoga is probably seeking future employment with the BBC!

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/sep/13/tone-deaf-ads-use-slave-ship-images-to-promote-uk-sea-trade

    2. It was slavery that gave our current black population the opportunity they now have to denigrate our forebears and us, as well as being able to make money, insult people freely, and wear Western clothing.

  5. SIR – John Bercow wants to explore the possibility of a new written constitution.

    We’re getting a better picture now of what that constitution might look like. The legislature and the judiciary will take over the powers of the executive, before miraculously elevating themselves from the anachronistic foundation of popular consent.

    Oliver Iliffe
    Marlborough, Wiltshire

    AND….

    SIR – Thanks to the reforms of Tony Blair, David Cameron and John Bercow, we now have a topsy-turvy system, in which Parliament governs, and the Government, by statutory instrument, writes most of our laws.

    Peter Day-Milne
    Sherborne, Dorset

    Bercow and pals are drunk with their own power to disrupt and and force the nation off course towards a destination of their own choosing. Representative parliamentary democracy will never recover.

  6. For the absence of doubt, may I make clear that I do not wish to borrow anyone’s copy of the Babbling Poltroon’s bitchathon.

      1. Morning all

        I am just wondering whether the Downton Abbey series which is so popular around the world , especially in the USA , was what enticed the actress Markle woman to set her trap to catch the prince ? Just asking , that’s all.

  7. SIR – Sir Bernard Jenkin, a senior Tory MP, has suggested that John Bercow, the Speaker, is running a “majoritarian dictatorship”, and that the powers of the Speaker should be revised. I could not agree more. Indeed, Mr Bercow has become a “state within a state”.

    It is not always to do with Brexit. His refusal to have Donald Trump, the American president, address Parliament was, to borrow his own words, a “constitutional outrage”. The United States is our vital ally, and to play fast and loose with this most important relationship was to endanger Britain’s very survival.

    Fuad Kavur
    London SW1

    And….

    SIR – In view of the evident bias of the Speaker and his latest outburst, it would be better not to choose a new Speaker until after he has left on October 31.

    The role can be very well carried out by his deputies for a few weeks and MPs would have the opportunity to assess suitable candidates.

    Hilda Gaddum
    Macclesfield, Cheshire

    A new Speaker should not be chosen until after the next GE.

    1. My guess is that Mr Bercow is standing down because he knows something that has not yet been made public. Having fought tirelessly for Remain, he now announces that he will wander off, while the battle still seems to be raging. I would guess that the Remainers have won. How? We will know soon enough.

    1. Dear Sir/Madam,
      Could you please pass on to Mr. Barclay my thanks for his e-mail and ask him to advise me why on Earth I should stump up towards a Conservative Party whose Leader now appears to be dusting off Theresa May’s piss-poor and appalling surrender document?

      If Mr. Johnson can take us out of the EU on the 31st of October, as promised, without ties to EU legislation in ANY form, then I will happily donate what little I can afford to your party and might even consider rejoining and assisting in election campaigns as I have in the past.

      Sadly, until then, I can only say, “Sit on it and swivel.”

  9. Convention underpins our democracy, and MPs toss it aside at their own risk
    CHARLES MOORE – 13 SEPTEMBER 2019 • 9:30PM

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2019/09/13/TELEMMGLPICT000209306157_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqRLU6RByDcehJVbJAoDuCGTr5g7mxQFx6dn4rrj9d18c.jpeg?imwidth=1240
    The Speaker boasted he had turned the Commons from ‘Dead Parrot’ into ‘Golden Eagle’

    Mr Speaker and his fans are sapping the legitimacy of the Parliament 
they claim to defend

    Why has John Bercow been, by a very long way, the most disastrous Speaker of modern times? He is, after all, intelligent, articulate, and unafraid of Ministers. He has helped backbenchers challenge frontbenchers. The answer is that he deliberately breaks convention. This might sound an amazingly feeble – even deplorable – objection. After all, we are supposed to admire people who defy convention to bring about change. Yet I hope to show that there are some positions, and some institutions, in which convention – as opposed to formal law – is the only way of working.

    Suppose, for example, that the Queen were to insist on her legal rights – making whomever she wanted a peer, eating every swan in the kingdom or refusing royal assent to any Bill she thought appalling etc. She would be breaking the convention by which a constitutional monarchy works. That would be the end of the House of Windsor.

    The Speakership is a position and the House of Commons is an institution much more dependent on convention than on law. There is no law which says the Speaker must be impartial, yet it is the convention by which he must operate. If one party or set of MPs believes that the Speaker is biased against it, the work of the House is soured and trust collapses. In the matter of leaving the European Union, a subject which especially requires a figure who is above the battle, Mr Bercow has been proudly anti-Brexit, and contemptuous of MPs, especially ministers, who favour it.

    This goes deeper than rudeness and bias – though those matter a lot, because most conventions depend on courtesy and fairness. The British system is unusual in that we are governed, as the saying goes, “through the House of Commons”. This means that there is a constant, deliberate tension in the same Chamber between the right of MPs to make laws and arraign the Government, and the duty of the Government (all of whose members sit in Parliament) to implement policies, make treaties and act as the executive of the nation.

    In the United States, by contrast, the Speaker is a partisan figure for the very good reason that the Congress is solely a legislature and in no sense the government. She therefore represents the House majority when she goes to discuss matters with the executive – the President and his administration.

    Our parliamentary system depends absolutely on balancing the interests of government and legislators. Otherwise, it breaks down. Since the 19th century, this has been avoided by convention. The keeper of the convention has been the Speaker. Before Bercow, he or she ensured that the Government could rely on setting the business of the House. It can be defeated, of course – that too is an essential part of the system – but the business cannot be hijacked by the House: if it were, government would become unworkable and unaccountable.

    This is now happening. Earlier this year, Mr Speaker Bercow broke this convention and allowed anti-Brexit MPs to take control of the Commons Order Paper House so that they could try to block no deal. This month, he did it again. Given a majority by anti-Brexit Tory rebels, MPs took advantage of the opportunity he had created to pass a Bill – itself completely beyond convention – which in one day took away from the Prime Minister the executive right to negotiate with Brussels. The Prime Minister, says the new Act, must ask M. Barnier and his friends for another extension of the Brexit departure date to avoid no deal, and must accept what comes back. The effect is to make Boris Johnson a parliamentary message-boy, not the head of the executive.

    Its related effect is to turn Parliament into a pseudo-government, with Mr Speaker Bercow as its Lord of Misrule.

    This week, in his speech to the Bingham Centre of the Rule of Law, Mr Bercow gave no room whatever to the convention that any government has a right and duty to govern. Instead he extolled Parliament’s “renaissance” under one J.Bercow. He had turned the Commons, he boasted, from “Dead Parrot” into “Golden Eagle”. In fact, he has made it more like a vulture upon the constitution. Since the Commons is itself part of the constitution, it will find out too late that it is eating itself.

    In his speech, Mr Bercow also promised “procedural creativity” to continue to tie down the Prime Minister before 31 October, the proposed date of Brexit and his newly announced date of departure from the Speaker’s chair. I am sure he will be as good as his word.

    When you add Mr Speaker’s behaviour to the effect of the Fixed Term Parliaments Act, you find that Parliament has contrived at the same time to insist that the Government can have no power and that it must stay in office instead of asking the people in a general election.

    And when you think about that, you realise that Mr Speaker’s behaviour is only the most egregious, look-at-me example of a much greater defiance of convention by a large number of elected people who should have known better.

    Democracy depends upon respect for convention as well as law. It is not, and should not be, law that an elected government tries to fulfil its main promises to voters. Politics, as the Divisional Court sensibly reiterated in its judgment this week on prorogation, is not a matter for judges. In the case of the Brexit referendum, the law said only that there would be a referendum and what the question would be. But the Government and the leader of all the main parties emphasised beforehand and repeated afterwards that they would enact the result. By convention, voters took this on trust.

    Brexiteers speak endlessly about the rights of the 17.4 million people who voted to leave, and rightly so. But the failure to implement the referendum is an infringement of the rights of all 33, 551,983 people who voted. We all voted under the convention that a direct, specific and vital promise by MPs will be carried out. If we had known that many of the people making those promises would have spent more than three years trying to evade them, why would we have bothered?

    Since June 2016, the most amazing procedural, legal and rhetorical ingenuity has gone into breaking the referendum promise. Philip Hammond, then Chancellor of the Exchequer, signed up to the Government’s stated policy that “No deal is better than a bad deal”, but, by privately insisting that we must in effect remain in the Customs Union, he scuppered it. Sir Oliver Letwin expressed repeated commitment to leaving with a deal and opposed a second referendum, but this week came out for the latter. Numerous Labour MPs, as well as Remainer Conservatives, declare that the only thing which really worries them is no deal, yet happily conspire with people who shout “Stop Brexit!”

    It is fascinatingly macabre that MPs whose europhilia has for years led them to reduce the powers of Parliament have now become ardent in defence of “parliamentary sovereignty”. At first I thought this was merely a rhetorical trick, but now I think it is something they really believe. By “parliamentary sovereignty”, they mean the right to do whatever they like, in despite of government, in despite of convention and in despite of voters, because, if we stay in the EU, their permanent irresponsibility is guaranteed by law. They do not realise – or perhaps do not care – that they are destroying their own legitimacy.

    4. One of Pretty Polly’s cryptic commments made me think a bit; turns out that Mr Bercow is probably entitled to claim Romanian citizenship. Both his paternal grandparents were originally Romanian.

    5. The Speaker is supposed to be impartial but very clearly Bercow is not. He is probably even more biased than the BBC has I bent and twisted procedure’s and conventions to suit his bias. He will not be most by most. lets hope we get a proper Speaker next time although some of those putting their names forward concern me

    6. The big, big questions that need to be answered by people of all political persuasions are:

      If Brexit is cancelled will this bring the nation back to peace?

      If not, how are the authorities going to keep the peace?

  10. Morning all,
    Though for the Day.

    Non-binary(?) people wish to be identified using they/them pronouns.
    As I normally assume a person’s sex based upon their appearance can I suggest these people wear big red nose and a hat with their gender of choice
    pained on it?
    This could be lit using flashing neon at night.

    1. WelL it means they should walk along with a manikin of themselves as it implies there are two of them. Mayb we should inform the tax man that he should be paying two lots of tax

    2. There are three genders in the English language: masculine, feminine and neuter. In the past masculine and feminine, with a few exceptions, referred to human beings, or creatures identifiably male or female; everything else was neuter.

      Why not refer to non-binary folk in the singular as ‘it’? It takes a bit of getting used to, seemingly dehumanising them for now, but no worse than removing the binary distinctions of a sexual species.

      1. Gender only applies to inanimate objects and mainly in foreign languages.

        All living, breathing beings, whether they like it or not, are sexed at birth by their genetic make-up with the exception of a tiny minority known as hermaphrodites.

        1. There is a confusion in the English language between sex and gender. Elsewhere, gender is arbritary (which probably had some logic in a long forgotten era), but in our language, we have insisted that sex and gender are exact synonyms, especially today now they’ve changed all the forms.

          Language is flexible, and a word can mean something quite different within a lifetime. “Gay marriage”, when I was born in the 1950s, meant a husband and wife having a jolly time together. Parliament legislated that out of my mother tongue, and I was allowed no say in this.

          1. Sorry for the delay in answering but I have to take issue with your idea that sex and gender are synonomous – they’re not; only in the minds of the MSM, particularly including the BBC and Sky News, all of whom are frightened shitless as being politically incorrect if they dare to talk about too much ‘SEX’.

        2. Except that the genetic make-up of an individual cannot always be determined visually, only by karyotyping to identify pair 23, the sex chromosomes. Sadly, there are some individuals who are correctly XX or XY but who do not develop properly and others who do not have a correct pair 23.

          In other words, some have the correct program installed but it doesn’t execute properly and some have a corrupted program.

          1. They are very rare, known about and not the basis for the complete upending of biological and social norms

          3. Intersex conditions are very rare and fairly well researched but very few people who self identify as the opposite sex to the one they were born bother getting a karotype done and those have had the tests done do not show as Intersex.

            Also, people with such conditions tend to get VERY annoyed by the Trans-Taliban trying to use the term.

  11. Morning all

    SIR – The rebel Remain alliance, ably supported by Mr Speaker Bercow, some of the media and, increasingly, the judiciary, have tasted power and like the flavour.

    We now hear that an election may not be “allowed” before a Commons-sanctioned Withdrawal Agreement has been put in place, or even until a second referendum has been held.

    The Scottish courts are being asked to rule on whether the court itself can sign the rebels’ extension-begging letter, should Boris Johnson continue to refuse to do so.

    How did our great country come to this, where a puppet Government is given its instructions and held ransom by the combined forces of opposition? I see no democracy here.

    Simon Millar
    Poole, Dorset

    1. We aren’t Mr Millar. We never have been.

      Bluntly, we gave our servants and order. They’re disobeying it because they can.

  12. Leavers must brace themselves for the most audacious second referendum plot yet
    TOM HARWOOD – 13 SEPTEMBER 2019 • 6:00PM

    There may be a ‘People’s Vote’ before a general election

    Remainers are organising. Their new plot, spearheaded by former Conservative Oliver Letwin, is predicated on keeping this rotten parliament alive for as long as possible, denying the people the ability to kick out their duplicitous representatives for months on end. All to try to cancel the largest vote ever taken in the United Kingdom.

    In 2017, just three parties with 48 MPs between them stood on manifestos committed to denying the result of the referendum. All other MPs stood for parties promising to respect the result. Since that democratic event there has been an immense, unedifying churn of shifting positions, defections, and new party formations.

    The Labour Party alone has drifted from originally promising to leave the EU’s single market and customs union, to keeping the customs union, to ‘regulatory alignment’ with EU rules, to keeping the option of a second referendum on the table in the event of no deal, to committing to one in any circumstance, to committing to rigged options of a bad deal or Remain. The only more Remainy step they could take now is outright revocation of Article 50 without going to the hassle of staging a rigged referendum. At least the Lib Dems are more honest with their new revoke position.

    The big lie of Remainers in Parliament is that they would ‘respect’ the mandate of a new referendum. Presumably that would be in an entirely different fashion to how they promised to respect, and then promptly attempted to rip up, the first one.

    Indeed, leading Remainers Jo Swinson and Caroline Lucas have already let the cat out of the bag that they would never vote to implement the result of a new referendum in Parliament. We would simply end up in the exact same situation the country finds itself stuck in now, only more bitter, jaded and divided.

    As long as this Parliament stays on life support, the Groundhog Day Brexit saga will continue. After a second referendum, the Remain politicians will continue to say with a straight face that voters were too simple, easily lied to, or just didn’t understand, all while conveniently ignoring their own flagrant disregard for the truth.

    The day after the vote, hoards of children from mysteriously funded lobby groups would appear on television declaring that literally dozens of youngsters have turned 18 in the last 24 hours, obviously invalidating the result. Leavers will yet be again be belligerently told they are too old, too racist, too northern, and too stupid to be allowed their say. Nothing will have changed.

    The country is currently facing the crisis of a Parliament refusing to accept a referendum result, refusing to face the people in an election, and refusing to accept that they are to blame.

    The staggering audacity of politicians is to assume that this is somehow a rut created by anyone other than themselves. This Parliamentary stalemate has to be the fault of that pesky referendum decision, not their refusal to accept it. May’s bad deal had to be result of an impossible task, rather than MPs colluding with Brussels and a mind-bogglingly stupid decision to take the ability to walk away with no deal off the table.

    There would be no crisis if Boris had decent majority. MPs know this. They want to continue to associate the quagmire of this country’s political situation with Brexit for as long as possible, and consequently they are trying every trick in the book to refuse the people the chance to change the numbers in Parliament. No matter how much they call for an election, they will exert herculean effort in finding a way to justify avoiding one.

    *******************************************************************************

    Plenty of frothing BTL but few ideas about how to stop it all.

    1. The Daily Mail reported that someone was spending £millions to stop Brexit and get another referendum.

      Who was it ?

      Do you think his plan is working ?

    2. I really don’t understand why Mps are allowed to continually fight our instruction. I do not care what the Lib Dems want. They do not matter. Their pathetic party has no say. The people are supreme. It is our power they wield, not their own. It really is time they came to heel and accepted the referendum stands and cannot be countermanded, only enacted – immediately.

  13. SIR – Surely someone who brings a drone into civilian airspace should be charged with attempted murder. We do not need more legislation, just some common sense applied.

    Peter Ferguson Western
    Poole, Dorset

  14. SIR – Reading Tom Ough’s piece (“Yes, I’m only a half-adult – but don’t hold it against me”, Features, September 13) made me pause for thought.

    I was about 38 before I noticed people had stopped calling me “young man” and started addressing me as “sir”. I’m not sure I like it.

    Stuart Fisher
    Wedmore, Somerset

  15. Why, this year, Last Night of the Proms will be woke. Daniel Kidane. Sat 14 Sep 2019 .

    In recent years we seem to have reached peak wokeness, but not entirely for the right reasons. I first heard woke as an adjective from the US, alongside the rise of the #BlackLivesMatter movement. The term “stay woke” was used as an empowering slogan that encouraged people to be vigilant to the injustices in society, especially racism. But as the word grew in popularity, the licence to use it in any which way expanded and its meaning became diluted. It was in response to this woke-washing that I decided to call my piece for tonight’s Last Night of the Proms “Woke”.

    I shall not be watching or listening to this BBC PC exercise in “wokeness” but expect some Nottler, perhaps Jeremy or Bill, to do so on my behalf and report back tomorrow! Lol!

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/14/last-night-proms-woke-classical-music

      2. Trendy word meaning street-cred and hip-hop. A sort of stabby lesbianism. They hate me because I am the wrong sort of person.

        1. I don’t think it does mean that. It’s more about social justice, and being “woke” to all of society’s imagined inequalities, far left feminism, racism, etc.

  16. Morning, all. Off to the Bath Arms in Cheddar this morning for a family party this arvo. Beautiful day!

    1. Morning DB

      It is a lovely day, but I expect the roads will be chaotic again , maybe not so bad in Somerset perhaps , but here is always busy and of course the farmers are hard at work getting the maize in , tractors and trailers rumbling through. The smell of the crushed chomped up maize is divine .

      Hope you have a truly enjoyable day .

      1. Thanks, Maggie. There will be relatives I won’t recognise, some I haven’t seen for 25 years so it will be interesting. Epi published a letter from Stuart Fisher, Wedmore. He is related to me. My mother’s maiden name was Fisher.

      2. There is a demo up at Bristol airport around mid day, avoid the A38 if you are travelling from Bristol way.

          1. Yes, that is subsidy farming. Vast amounts of diesel burned into CO2 gas etc in order to produce relatively small amounts of precious bio-gas. And all the cars that trudge behind the oversized tractors travel at around 30 mph in third gear, consuming more fuel than they would have done if they were in fourth or fifth gear.

  17. Good morning, all. Rather down today. Last evening’s pointless death does not raise the spirits.

    1. Good morning Bill

      It is inevitable that you will feel the way you do ..

      Husband was one of the pilots who flew the coastguard helicopter along our part of the coastline for years, he and his crew faced MANY difficult challenges .

      Please regain your sense of good cheer , and enjoy your the rest of your stay. Don’t dwell on things please .

      1. Good morning, Mags. I don’t dwell – it is just on this glorious morning, as we start to pack (we leave tomorrow) it seems just a stupid waste.

    2. ‘Morning, Bill, I missed that – what happened to make you grieve over a ‘pointless death’?

        1. Hmm, Darwinism in action. Nothing to grieve over, it’s symptomatic of a lot of today’s unawake young – too busy being ‘woke’.

  18. Is there any truth in this story?

    Will touch every man’s heart.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0e7b844485892c550297947bdeaf7163be8cda1354510902c909d04bb9893c86.jpg

    What a beautiful story. This should be shared with all male friends!

    Once upon a time, a guy asked a beautiful girl ‘Will you marry me?’ The girl said, ‘NO!’

    And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and went fishing and hunting and played golf a lot and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.

    The End

  19. The most powerful known greenhouse gas Sulphur hexafluoride, or SF6 has been leaking into the Earth’s atmosphere due to the green energy boom, it was reported on Friday night.

    t is 23,500 times more warming than carbon dioxide (CO2), and just one kilogram warms the Earth as much as 24 people flying London to New York return.
    The drive to use mixed sources of power, including wind, solar and gas, rather than coal as fuel has resulted in a rise in the number of electrical devices that use SF6,

    3. Much less SF6 is released than CO2, but even so, trees have the capacity to convert CO2 to O2 and wood (which locks up the carbon either in furniture and building materials, or rots away to humus in the topsoil), whereas nothing can convert SF6 to something more benign.

      The answer surely is to use less, and the surest way to use less is to have fewer people, and have these people less wasteful. The solar panels on my roof do not use SF6 anything like as much because what I generate is spread about locally, rather than transmitted by the gigawatt from huge central power stations.

      It is not helping with Bolsonaro, in alliance with Trump and Netanyahu, tell us the palpable fib that the way to save the Amazon is to open it up to the miners, the loggers and the slash-and-burn clearance farmers. The Idiot Right loves Bolsonaro and hates environmentalists (whom they call “tree huggers”).

      I hear too that having trashed Java all around Djakarta, Indonesia now plans to move its capital into the Bornean rainforest, clearing it of trees and orang-utans, and causing a plume of smoke all over south-east Asia.

      1. The surest way to lose less is to use none. The UK alone apparently has the equivalent of some 23 million tonnes of CO2 (in SF6). Like old fridges, at some point in the future it is going to have to be disposed of. Probably by the equipment being ripped open/demolished.
        In the 1950s I suppose that we did not use much SF6 but we did everything we needed to.
        If the CO2 loonies were to concentrate on saving the rain forests, and others, it would have some value. However, cutting CO2 presents global industrialist with financial opportunities, whereas trees are just trees.

  20. Brexit Party

    Whats happened to their once great publicity machine ?

    They still appear to have no organisation and no manifesto an nothing of substance seems to be coming out of their party Conference

    With the possibility of an election at any time they really do need to get a move on

  22. If Boris Johnson has any sense, (an increasingly unlikely fact), he should look at who his most vociferous critics are and he will see that he is on the right track if he gets us out with a clean, no WA or PD Brexit on the 31st October.

    He should defy Parliament and the UK courts and tell the EU we have left, because the final arbiter will be the ECJ and article 50 is very clear.

    We will be out unless the ECJ over-rules him and that of itself will be a huge pointer as to who really rules Britain while we remain in the EU.

    1. “…the final arbiter will be the ECJ and article 50 is very clear.”

      This was the subject (I think…) of Jeff Taylor’s recent video.

      1. If nothing else, the UK has shown the next country to use article 50 that they should leave and sort the mess out/negotiate from ouside the EU.

      2. A wonderfull opportunity then for Boris, once re-elected with a working and workable majority, in the immediate aftermath of the next extension, to revoke Article 50 and repeal the European Communities Act 1972. We will be out, extensions count for nothing and the Remainiacs and Barnier’s henchmen are all bolluxed.

        Bring it on Boris – though you’d better have some better tricks up your sleeve, if the machinations of the undemocratic Parliamentarians are to be foiled.

    2. Sosra, the EU Withdrawal No 2 (2019) Act is badly drafted and could be ‘fatally flawed’.
      Any competent barrister could have a wonderful time cross-questioning the authors in Court.

      I am not a lawyer.

      1. Nor I.

        One aspect/outcome of Brexit that I find particularly worrying, for the longer term, is the way small/unrepresentative pressure groups are using lawfare to thwart the Government. The UK courts are taking away too much from Parliament and Democracy itself. As the appointment of judges has become more politicised so their seizure of power has increased and I suspect that that was Blair’s intention under his dreadful reforms.

        In my view that is a very bad thing.

  24. Today’s mail to Mr Redwood……………………..

    Oh my goodness me………..

    A multi billionaire, who just by coincidence appears to have open door access to the European Commission (the door opened 68 times last year), is allegedly spending £ millions to get another referendum according to the Sun……

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6364870/george-soros-best-for-britain-brexit/

    ,,,and hey presto there is a chorus of demands for a second referendum, and look who has just jumped aboard the second referendum boat !

    Aren’t coincidences wonderful !

    Nigel says………………

    ”Billions have been spent… to undermine the nation state”

    https://twitter.com/nigel_farage/status/930368687638564864?lang=en

    Do you think Nigel’s right ?

    Hint – There’s so much here for an article !

    Polly

  26. I heard something terribly frightening this morning. No, not an imminent asteroid strike but Ed Davey MP stating that he has expectations of a Lib/Dum government and therefore Jo Swinson becoming Prime Minister. Something for exasperated parents to use to scare their naughty children into behaving.

    1. Morning KK

      There is an enormous Liberal groundswell in this area.. and something I sniffed out and detected at a totally unrelated meeting I attended a couple of evenings ago .. I felt really dismayed ,, and am now on high alert with regard to local government , I also feel that the judiciary is Liberal.. I know an elderly judge who confided that fact .

      I believe that elderly ex military are true blue Tories to the core, but younger fifty + are Liberal , as are civil service pensioners and many small business owners.

      People who move to a Tory/ Lib area bring their politics with them , this is an area with many wealthy incomers from London and outer fringes .. the Labour vote has swelled.. I often used to wonder whether this was a devious plot .. similar to diversity methods . I dunno, what do you think?

      1. Colchester was Lib/Dum for a number of years with a very active MP who started out as a very active local councillor. It has now become Tory but if the Libs and Labour create a pact it could easily fall; the same could happen if Brexit stand without a pact with the Tories.
        Politics is in a state of flux at the moment and that is proving to be a good thing as it is exposing the morally corrupt politicians for what they are. If we do not get a clear out after the Brexit fiasco then I think the Country is doomed to become a province of the EU and be stripped bare as a lesson to others.

        1. The Illib Undems are just as corrupt as all the rest – they just pretend to be “nice and reasonable”…

          1. Easily recognisable wearing grey shirts , wispy beards (not side burns) sandals and trousers , usually clutching a Kindle or such like , can be mistaken for churchwardens or similar!

          3. Belle, many years ago I knew a number of old school Liberals; generally they were decent people, many of them quite devout or members of the Religious Society of Friends. Sadly, these people were replaced by younger, more aggressive people and the party morphed into what we see today.

          4. The Lib conference is being held in Bournemouth this year..They have got rather aggressive and green . They have wasted so much money on this area with cycle paths which are not used , because time trial cyclists use the roads.. thousands of them descend on the area to cycle in the Purbeck hills. Also, they waste time doing vanity projects, so many silly ideas . I hope the students never forgive them though re the student fee fiasco , sadly people do forget , and the idiot twerp Clegg displayed poor judgement in every quarter.

          5. That’s why I use my phone to read my Kindle library!

            I have no sandals or wispy beard, though I do have trousers and am the Lay Chairman of the local PCC – that’s Parochial Church Council – not to be confused with the Parish Council (we’re too small to have one) and we are only responsible for the maintenace of the churche’s fabric. I’m getting good at raising money for such.

      2. ‘Afternoon, Mags, there is a certain truth in what you say but I also think that the groundswell of Illiberal undemocrats are Remainiacs looking for a political home and, if we keep our powder dry and Boris has, hopefully, had secret meeting with Farage, then there is a very good chance that the Illib/undems may creep into third place at the next election after Cons/Brexit and leave Labour floundering as a minor party.

        It has to happen. I don’t believe Boris to be so daft as to impale himself on the spike of the totally reject WA.

  28. ELDERLY gipsies who are too old to travel are not being given sufficient accommodation by local councils, the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) has said.

    Along with travellers who suffer from ill health, educational needs or disabilities, older members of the community are being “forgotten” as the result of current rules.

    A statutory duty to provide “safe and appropriate sites for all gipsies and travellers” should be introduced by the Government, the EHRC concluded.

    The warning comes after the Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government changed the legal definition of gipsies and travellers in 2015, removing those who have “ceased travelling permanently”.

    This resulted in planning authorities in England reducing the estimated number of authorised sites needed to house traveller families, which fell almost 75 per cent, from 1,299 to 345. It had a greater impact on the elderly who are less mobile, the EHRC said.

    I’ve had a complete rethink on gypsies or pikeys. Yes, they can be irritating to home-owning tax-paying people; and the habits of many of them, including dumping their waste willy-nilly and refusing to pay taxes can irritate.

    However, in view of the current activities of remainiacs; members of the government and parliament in general; of Lefties and Pinkoes; luvvies in entertainment; the BBC and all the news media; those in charge of the police, education, health and the judiciary; the EU and everything associated with it; and all aspects of the Left-leaning establishment; give me pikeys any day.

    1. What !! You expect me to chose the lesser of two weevils??
      They’re all still maggots
      ‘Morning Grizz

      1. Morning, Rik.

        Think of the maggots as witchetty grubs. The aboriginals of Oz regard them as a delicacy! 😋

    2. Surely if they keep stopping they’re not travellers?

      As it is our local park has an earthwork all around it. All it needs is craters and we could re-enact the Somme, all to keep out the littering, thieving pikeys.

    3. ELDERLY gipsies who are too old to travel are not being given sufficient accommodation by local councils, the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) has said.
      Along with travellers who suffer from ill health, educational needs or disabilities, older members of the community are being “forgotten” as the result of current rules.

      When they pay all their back taxes, National Insurance contributions, etc, then they can take advantage of all the welfare benefits the rest of us have paid for…

      1. I hear what you are saying and agree with you on that point.

        However, that is nobbut a drop in the ocean when compared, for example, with the billions paid to India (amongst others) to fund their out-of-control fecundity, their idiotically clownish space programme and their nuclear weapons facility.

        It is abominations, such as that, which should agitate us much more than a handful of gypsies.

        1. That infuriates me too. Which is why we desperately need a sensible government.
          But we’re not going to get one.

  29. Leave.EU is vindicated and 17.4m of us have beaten the Establishment

    ARRON BANKS

    It’s been three years since the referendum and we still haven’t left the EU. The Establishment has shot every single piece of ammunition it has to prevent Brexit and it’s gone even further with attempts to smear, financially ruin and even imprison those who defeated it in the vote.

    Today – after years of investigations, questionings and corrections, I can say Leave.EU and I have been completely vindicated. The Metropolitan Police investigation is closed with no charges.

    The investigation into Leave.EU and Liz Bilney, its CEO, has ended. But this witch hunt has been devastating. Liz spent two years having to defend herself from vexatious allegations.

    Imagine having to tell your young children their mother is potentially facing arrest and imprisonment for completely false charges?

    Liz didn’t have to imagine.

    One question they might ask is why was their mother targeted in this way?

    Liz is not alone. Earlier this year the Electoral Commission was forced into dropping its £20,000 fine against young leave campaigner Darren Grimes for filling in a form incorrectly. Britain’s election watchdog has spent hundreds of thousands of pounds of taxpayers’ money going after Brexit supporters while almost completely ignoring the other side.

    A Telegraph investigation found that four of the 10 commissioners making up the board of the quango had made public statements against Brexit. Worse, three made comments while in their posts, with Sir John Holmes, chairman of the Electoral Commission, declaring after the vote he “regret[ted] the result of the referendum”, and denounced “the panoply of Eurosceptic nonsense” heard during the campaign.

    Holmes fails to live up to his ironic name. He is probably the worst detective in Britain. His organisation fired an arrow at the wall and simply painted a target around it.

    For example, it cited petty technical breaches against Leave.EU, like saying it put 37 items on a single invoice rather than in 37 separate ones and nonsense like that. The judge in our case clearly said there was no dishonesty. In the end we were disputing expenditure of £50k on a campaign spend of £13 million.

    Their vindictive, politically motivated campaign against us was spurred on by remainers in Parliament – and chiefly Damian Collins. He used his privileged position in the chair of the Digital, Culture, Media and Sport select committee to heap pressure on the Electoral Commission and police to investigate leave campaigners. He and Carole “Corrections” Cadwalladr of The Guardian, his partner in crime, will today hang their heads in shame as their attempts to overturn the referendum result and insult 1.5 million Leave.EU supporters completely and utterly fails.

    Like the Electoral Commission, the DCMS is riddled with remainers who want to discredit the result. Using campaigns, kangaroo courts and Parliamentary privilege these remain extremists appeared to treat the NCA and the Met as political tools. This was a huge waste of taxpayers’ cash and reminiscent of dodgy African dictators rather than British Parliamentarians.

    After the false allegations and a witch hunt surpassed only by the Mueller investigation into non-existent Russian Collusion in the US, it is time for the Electoral Commission to be shut down.

    And Damian Collins must resign. His role in pursuing innocent leave supporters cannot be emphasised enough.

    Remoaners love to tell us how stupid, racist or decrepit we are. They love to claim the Brexit vote was the result of Russian interference, or a bus, or criminals persuading 52 per cent of the country to vote to leave. Now every one of their arguments is crumbling.

    Today Leave.EU and 17.4 million Brexit voters can relish in the fact that they beat the Establishment – and Liz can give her children the good news.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/13/leaveeu-vindicated-174m-us-have-beaten-establishment/

    1. “Hang their heads in shame”? I don’t think so. More likely they will blame the inadequacy of the investigation and prosecution services.

    2. One minor correction there:
      Cadwalladrwon’t hang her head in shame. She has none. She is idoelogically blinkered, bigoted, abusive and prejudiced against anyone who disagrees with her.

          1. I went there once. It’s the most depressingly ugly place I’ve ever visited. (Worse than Mansfield, even, and that’s saying something!)

          4. One Barnsley is worth more than a thousand Lutons, Leicesters or Lydds.

            [My dad was from just outside Barnsley.]

          5. ‘Afternoon, George, having worked in Mansfield for a short time as a consultant to the then, Metal Box Company, I came to the conclusion that, if God wanted to give the world an enema, Mansfield is where he’d stick the tube.

          6. ‘Afternoon, Tom.

            Everyone in Chesterfield agrees with you. [Mansfield is Chesterfield’s joke town!]

    2. I really can’t follow this through. Another politician talking down to his audience with long words and a posh accent. If he can’t talk in a way that relates to his audience, he might as well go back to Snobland and talk there.

      1. He’s reading a speech. Boris does far better when he’s answering people, engaging with them directly in a conversation.

      2. He could do a Hillary, and change his accent and words to talk down to the electorate on the assumption they’re too dumb to understand otherwise…
        I think I prefer the long words. I might learn something.

  31. DT Story

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/13/david-cameron-attacks-boris-johnson-michael-gove-brexit-breaks/

    David Cameron attacks Boris Johnson and Michael Gove over Brexit as he breaks silence

    Having said quite clearly that the 2016 referendum was a ‘once in a lifetime’ event it adds absurdity to stupidity, dishonesty and hypocrisy for David Cameron to say that another referendum is necessary to get a more satisfactory result. For him to then say that those who are in favour of Brexit are liars takes a very large box of Peak (or pique) Freen biscuits.

    The one positive thing that could be said about Cameron was that unlike Heath, Major, Brown and Blair he did not continue to muddle and meddle after his time was up. He has now lost even that one thing. And just wait until Evil May gets going.

      1. “I’m going to hang out the washing on the Siegried Line”? “Come into the garden, Maude”? “She was only a girl in a gilded cage”? “I can’t do my belly bottom button up”? Do tell, Polly!

  33. I note that the Iranians know how to deal with halfwits who use drones where they shouldn’t. Why can’t the UK do similarly?

    1. Because, since the end of the second world war, the UK has been governed by the educationally sub-normal.

      1. I start to think that they have been over-educated in the wrong areas and have deliberately set about wrecking the country.

        I despise them, almost without exception

        1. When you have children who’ve not read a book in their lifetime except when forced to read the two set texts for English GCSE illiteracy is both evident and rampant. They simply cannot write even a simple professional letter.

    1. If Labour wish to reduce the number of pupils attending Private Schools all they have to do is ensure that State Schools are brought up to the same levels of excellence.
      Sadly, Labours past actions have, all too often, had precisely the opposite effect.

      1. Labour don’t think like that though. If they did they wouldn’t set about trying to tax to death everything that moved. They would instead cut taxes and help the poorest get richer – comically they then stop being Labour voters.

    2. The more of this type of proposal from Labour, the better.
      They show themselves as the wreckers that they are.
      If/when the UK votes in a hard left Labour government the country will reap the whirlwind it deserves.

      1. We know, from data, that remaining chained to the EU is an awful thing. Electing Labour, based on the same historical information shows it to be a disaster as well.

        Yet the same people promote both things.

        Why are we subject to the whims of the mendacious and stupid?

    4. The real killer is the ensure endowments and investments are spread about. That’s just theft.

      A person leaving monies to a private school expects it to go to that school, not be splurged on the chavs in Newham.

    2. I suppose that the establishment have scheduled May to move back into the limelight during the Tory conference, probably at a time designed to hurt a Boris headliner speech.

      Quite organized aren6 they?

    1. “We will punish the United Kingdom for daring to leave the EU and make it as hard for you as we can!”
      -says meaningless overpaid EU drone.

      This comment from an organisation that is bankrupt, experiencing growing social collapse, and who cannot do a damn thing to stop us leaving if we choose to. It is only our own corrupt politicians that are holding this country back.

      1. Statements like this make Johnson’s, “Friends and partners in the EU,” sound obsequious and totally unnecessary. We know and they know that we are not friends and we are, at best, estranged partners.

    2. I like the way that the article tells us that the Brexit party trounced the Tories in the EU elections. Didn’t do too badly against Labour either!

    4. How is it that we hear so much from bl..dy snivel serpents now, we never used to. I am so exasperated with this BRINO business, so angry that we’ve been cheated out of Brexit and a general election and bl..dy Scottish courts ruling against 17.4m people. And I’m on holiday, supposed to be relaxing and chilling out!

      2. Have some more falling down water. Works for me. Every time.

        Had a bet with my friend. We are holidaying in Malta. The bet was one euro to the person that didn’t end up in Mater Dei A&E. I lost. Again. :o(

        Where are you VW.?

        1. We’re in Alvor, the Algarve. Beautiful weather so it is. We holidayed in Malta once, in 1999 I think, when we were told the Maltese like to drive in the shade! And there were loads of firework manufacturers and the road signs disappeared! Had a smashing time, used to go to St Julien’s in the evening where all Maltese families went, all generations together, it was lovely.
          So how come you ended up in A&E, do you just like going there?😎

          1. Not been to the Algarve yet.

            One of the things i think is special about Malta is the fact that you have the olders and seniors out on the promenade at midnight. Playing chess, knitting and or gossiping.

            Regarding A&E it was an unfortunate juxtaposition of circumstances. Erm..alcohol and me. :o(
            I was lucky that i hit my head on the balustrade before smacking it into the the floor. Blood everywhere but no blurred vision or concussion. Head wounds do tend to be dramatic.

            Saying that…… Last night i was at the Bridge Bar in Valletta. Wonderful Jazz night. Went with some friends. I made the mistake…. after standing up,…. to offer my hand to a young lady.

            She had more traction than i. Went over, cracked my ribs. Just glad it was the other side this time.

          2. Oh my word, you do seem accident prone! Hope the ribs are OK. At least no blood that time, eh? Lovely people the Maltese. That’s what we thought was marvellous, babies, youngsters, teenagers, parents and grandparents all enjoying the evenings together with no shouting or screaming, lovely to see. Enjoy yourself, carefully!

  43. I have been a monarchist and loyal subject of the Queen all my life.

    While she is certainly good for trade and tourism, she is also the last resort during a time of constitutional crisis. If all runs as it should, there is no reason why the nation should ever have to call on her services. It is far better, for as long as the public is capable of governing its own affairs for it to do so, and for the Queen to maintain her aloof disinterest in anything political.

    I am a Liberal. I define liberalism as devolving power and responsibility as low as it will go, starting with the individual and working upwards. Freedom and responsibility must be balanced. You cannot have one without the other, and each must be in direct proportion. If you are not prepared to take responsibility, then you lose freedom; if you are denied freedom, then you can hardly be responsible for your actions. The more of both, the better.

    If the individual is not capable or willing to take on responsibility, then power passes to the next level up – the family, the neighbourhood, the village, the district, the county (something particularly English in counties) and the nation. If the nation fails, than power resumes its upward path to the bloc, and ultimately to a world authority, and from there to God, who is universal.

    What we have now is a Prime Minister who does not command the confidence of the House, but cannot be replaced or a fresh House elected which can have confidence in the Prime Minister of the day. It is a constitutional outrage. Was John Bercow (or his appointed successor) ever authorised to become a President?

    I’m afraid, your Majesty, if you value your Crown, it is your job now to sort it out.

    1. In thirty years the UK will no longer exist, Swinson and her ilk will be troughing away at euojobs and the people of this country will be reduced to poverty and misery.

  47. Question : Have the Government made plans to deal with the – albeit temporary – confusion, when we change our currency to the Euro ?

      2. In real life he is absolutely charming. Modest, self deprecating and approachable. The sort of person you would happily chat to at a party. These are the traits that got him elected.

    1. When I was visiting the US on business back in the ’70’s, a penny and a cent were equal in value, so the £ has lost almost half of its value against the $ since then. And that’s in spite of the last 3 US presidents running up a horrendous increase in the deficit.

      2. Well, the rate was fixed at $2.40 to the pound.

        ” Twenty years later- Norman
        Lamont (UK’s Chancellor of the Exchequer) decided to take the pound
        out of the ERM.This immediatelydevalued the pound, and the results were dramatic – the pound plummeted
        in value, falling to $1.75 within a month, and to just over $1.40 in five months.”

        So leaving the EU will be no big deal.

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        1. Kipling also had a futuristic sight of this Parliament:

          Road-Song of the Bandar-Log

          Here we go in a flung festoon,
          Half-way up to the jealous moon!
          Don’t you envy our pranceful bands?
          Don’t you wish you had extra hands?
          Wouldn’t you like if your tails were–so–
          Curved in the shape of a Cupid’s bow?
          Now you’re angry, but–never mind,
          Brother, thy tail hangs down behind!

          Here we sit in a branchy row,
          Thinking of beautiful things we know;
          Dreaming of deeds that we mean to do,
          All complete, in a minute or two–
          Something noble and wise and good,
          Done by merely wishing we could.
          We’ve forgotten, but–never mind,
          Brother, thy tail hangs down behind!

          All the talk we ever have heard
          Uttered by bat or beast or bird–
          Hide or fin or scale or feather–
          Jabber it quickly and all together!
          Excellent! Wonderful! Once again!
          Now we are talking just like men!
          Let’s pretend we are … never mind,
          Brother, thy tail hangs down behind!
          This is the way of the Monkey-kind.

          Then join our leaping lines that scumfish through the pines,
          That rocket by where, light and high, the wild grape swings.
          By the rubbish in our wake, and the noble noise we make,
          Be sure, be sure, we’re going to do some splendid things!

          Rudyard Kipling

  52. THE world’s oldest new mother is being treated in an intensive care unit with her husband just over a week after giving birth to twins, it has emerged.

    The Indian couple, Erramatti Mangayamma, 74, and Raja Rao, 78, stirred controversy when they revealed they had successfully delivered twin girls on Sept 5 after undergoing IVF treatment.

    Just a day after the announcement, Mr Rao reportedly collapsed from a heart attack. According to The Times, Ms Mangayamma has also remained in intensive care since the birth in the southern state of Andhra Pradesh.

    The twins have not yet been named and are being cared for by relatives. The couple had unsuccessfully tried to conceive naturally for many years but last year decided to undergo an IVF procedure. Ms Mangayamma fell pregnant in January but doctors were unsure whether she would carry to term.

    Ms Mangayamma described feeling “complete” after the girls were delivered by caesarean section. However, the case has provoked a furious debate over the ethics of allowing a septuagenarian to undergo IVF treatment.

    It is unclear why Ms Mangayamma is in intensive care but experts say pregnancy poses a number of health risks for elderly women, including hypertension and eclampsia.

    Doctors have declined to provide details on the couple’s conditions, but Ms Mangayamma’s niece, Lakshmi Bhia, said both were stable and the twins, who weighed under 5lb at birth, were doing well and now weighed 5.5lb.

    The country with the world’s second biggest, and most rabidly out-of-control population thinks it is sensible to provide IVF to septuagenarians?

    More utter stupidity from the human species and its getting nearer the time when they were replaced as the dominant species on this wretched planet.

    I am ashamed to be counted as a member of the most idiotic species to have ever evolved.

    1. Grizz, as you rightly say this story highlights the stupidity of some humans. The problem is clever people are developing ever more sophisticated methods to improve outcomes for people with problems and some stupid people take advantage. On the macro level there is a major, mostly unaddressed, problem of World population growth and at the micro level there is the personal desire of people who cannot conceive naturally to receive help. IVF on its own will not seriously affect the World’s population growth but its abuse is a cause for concern, as this particular case shows.

    1. Do students realise the implications of Theresa May’s signing up to UK joining the EU army?

      It has been claimed that snowflakes won’t be required to be conscripted into the EU forces should UK remain but can they be sure this will still be the case with the new EU Commission after 31st October 2019?

      https://images.app.goo.gl/PDK2h5eShWVuwEph8

      Ursula is known to be a supporter of increased military presence in Europe.

      https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2661376967223896&set=a.216852455009705&type=3&theater

        3. The original idea of an army was that it would defend the country from foreign invasion. Are you now suggesting that the new army will be foreigners who are employed to put down the indigenous population?

          3. It’s a very European idea of army. After all, the big countries (apart from the UK) spent centuries trying to take over the whole of Europe. That’s one reason they can’t forgive us – we stopped them. Again and again.

      2. As I understand it our armed forces will be at the disposal of the EU and we will have no say in where they are directed or where they will be involved. Ursula what’s her name has already declared that we need to be “more involved” in Africa. Can you imagine!

          1. I thought we were forced to divest ourselves of our colonies in the 50s and 60s and now the EU, showing its true colours, wants to build a new colonisation. I think the Chinese have beaten them to it.

      3. Maybe they want an EU army in preparation to counter the growing threat of China?
        Just a thought.
        According to BBC2 3 part documentary series, China is well on track to supersede the USA as the world’s foremost super power.

  59. Good morning, all.

    Received my three-yearly driving licence renewal notification today and applied for it online. On the application, despite all the ‘gender dysphoria’ and accompanying angst that seems so popular these days, I see there are just two options to describe one’s ‘gender’ – or sex as we used to call it in the good old days – and these are Male or Female. There is no option to select one of the hundreds of other different ‘genders’ that we are told are available.

    I wonder how the LBGTQUERTY brigade will manage?

  61. “The British Broadcasting Company (BBC) tells primary schoolchildren

    that there are over 100 genders as part of its “Teach” video series,

    which has some concerned parents and observers up in arms.

    “You know, there are so many gender identities,” declares

    the head teacher in response to child’s question. “We know that we have

    got male and female, but there are over 100, if not more, gender

    identities now.”

    The video for schoolchildren aged 9-12 is part of nine new BBC Teach

    films produced as support material for the personal, social, and health

    education (PSHE) curriculum in UK schools.”

    Telegraph columnist Celia Walden has written a scathing review

    of the program, which she calls “noxious nonsense” that poisons

    children’s minds, a product of the modern “Emperor’s New Clothes gender

    diversity narrative.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/education/2019/09/13/bbc-tells-schoolchildren-there-are-over-100-genders/
    The Al-Beeb,kill it,kill it with fire

    1. Well with there are only two genders. You have Intersex a genetic disorder where they are part male and part female to varying degrees but that’s all. It is still basically two genders. The rest are delusional in my view

    4. Over 100, if not more gender identities now?

      OK you silly bítch, name them all and describe their fundamental differences.
      You will become so tied up in knots that you will become the total laughing stock that you deserve to be.

    5. Al-Beeb’s reputation for reporting news, as opposed to broadcasting leftist common purpose claptrap, has been trashed and now it seems that it’s well down the road to trashing its science programming. Will no one rid us of this turbulent broadcaster? (apologies to Henry II)

  62. The four official Candidate Countries to become member states of the European Union are: Montenegro, North Macedonia, Serbia, and Turkey. The four Potential Candidate countries to become Candidates are: Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Kosovo.

  63. That’s me for the day. Just back from 25th trip to beach and two lovely swims. 7700 steps in all. The rise from the beach to the flat is 200 metres – so we have gone up 5,000 metres in a fortnight. Legs much stronger than the day we arrived!

    Travelling tomorrow – so until Monday, I wish you all joy.

  65. I was having sex when I suddenly transgendered and it all become very confusing . I could not remember if I was the plug or the socket

    1. It is very worrying. Although ” Lord ” Robertson always seemed a plonker.
      Leavers are being totally shagged by our ” betters “.

      1. I think Robertson got caught up in the Dunblane aftermath and disappeared sharpish for a few years. I didn’t know that he’d shown his face again.

        1. Indeed, but how?

          To counter Leftwaffe lawfare costs a lot of money for an individual and the Left are very well funded.

  67. Boris Johnson cabinet minister Nicky Morgan says she would vote Remain in second Brexit referendum: ‘It is not a result I was comfortable with’

    She should resign or Boris should fire her. If she cannot agree with a fundamental government policy she has no place in the Cabinet

    1. It must be very annoying for her that she has only one vote the same as everyone else, even though she thinks that she knows best. This is why the EU was created, to bypass the electorate.

  69. The subject of genders came up within the last couple of hours.
    Our 16 year old grandson obtained a 9 in Biology in his GCSE this year. He is determined to become a surgeon. He sent us this link yesterday saying it was his favourite video and deals with DNA etc. I find it quite amazing that one so young has found this on line. It’s quite thought provoking on how we are made. Hope you enjoy it and feel that the future is quite safe in the youth of today, more so than in the wreckers who occupy parliament.
    https://youtu.be/WFCvkkDSfIU

    2. “the future is quite safe in the youth of today”

      Spot on.

      As for the video, double gulp and a whistle.

      No one will ever convince me that life occurred and developed in a random manner.

      1. One difficulty is if nature/evolution is moving creatures to perfect balance in their environment, why are there so many species?

        2. HP, if you’re serious about asking that question I recommend that you could do worse than read Professor Jerry Coyne’s, Why Evolution is True. It’s a fairly easy ready; I found Coyne’s writing and explanations easier to follow than Dawkins’ work. I’ve started the latter’s, The Selfish Gene a number of times and never finished it.

          1. Korky – You have saved yourself some time and effort by not finishing Dawkins books. He is recognised for having some “interesting” ideas for his day, but modern professionals say the science has moved on, we know far more about Genes now, and his ideas were wrong. Although, unlike someone who you would think might be interested in the truth and the ever increasing base of human knowledge, Dawkins has been very bitchy and rejected new developments in the field.

            He has always seemed a bit full of himself with little reason to be whenever I have watched him on TV.

          2. I’ve found that reading “popular science” i.e. written for the layman but with a good level of technical content, can be very hit and miss. Coyne’s book is very good as is Lawrence Krauss’s, A Universe From Nothing.

          4. It is happening here in the UK, the native population although briefly achieving superior civilisation, advances in science and knowledge and the arts while in isolation has fallen victim to newcomers through survival of the fittest and faster reproduction rates.

          5. I think that you’re confusing evolution with Government planned invasion and replacement.
            Survival of the fittest is really survival of those best adapted to their environment. Smart humans learned how to adapt their environment when they moved from being nomadic hunter gatherers to settled farming and urban life.
            Imagine, if all the people running the infrastructure, health etc in the UK suddenly upped sticks and decamped to, say, Canada, what do you think would happen to all those fit and highly reproductive people left behind?

          7. You’re probably correct, Elsie but I think they’d need a blöödy great fleet of supertankers to try and make a dent in the numbers. I don’t think even Mr Palindrome has deep enough pockets to provide that.😎

        3. Having watched a film about the development of a human foetus, where all the pieces knew where to go (without a sat nav and never having been there before), it made me think about doing a jigsaw puzzle with several million pieces without a picture on the box. I reckon it’d take well over nine months.

      1. He’s far too clever and intelligent for that. He wants to be of use in this world and help people. Politicians only want to put obstacles in the way of people. Advancements in the way things work are made by individuals not herds.

        Edit things for thinks.

  70. “BoJo: Well mum, it’s like this: a rabble of power-mad Communists not

    dissimilar to those who wiped out your Romanov great-cousins have formed

    an unholy alliance with bought federalist sympathisers determined to

    ensure that your head disappears from the currency, and we become the

    Angleland multicultural Alcatraz gulag for those who dare to oppose the

    will of Franco-German Brit haters.

    QE2: Oh dear. So what exactly do you want to do about it Prime Minister?

    B: Much as it pains me mum, I should like to stop these power and

    money corrupted Trojans by a little perfectly legal constitutional

    subterfuge, and prorogue this Parliament, whose long sitting demands it.

    This will, as a happy by-product, enable me to ensure that the wishes

    of your subjects to remain independent shall be carried through by a

    Parliament whose MPs promised so to do.

    Q: Sounds like a no-brainer to me. Carry on Prime Minister….”

    https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2019/09/12/overwhelming-evidence-of-eu-perfidy-evokes-this-daft-question-from-remoanoids-did-boris-lie-to-the-queen/
    I refuse to be downhearted,if there is a cunning plan to get us out cleanly it would be madness to reveal details to help the enemy thwart us
    Meanwhile the EUrinal that is the MSM froths and speculates endlessly at the behest of its masters,twisting and turning throwing out ever more delusional project fear.
    My latest favourite is the activist Doctor “there’ll be no medicines,the ports will be closed,we’re all going to dieeeeeeeeeee”
    “But wouldn’t we simply fly in essentials,you know like firms do already??”
    REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

    1. Well, so long as the sherry can be opened, we won’t mind about the ports for a week or two.

  72. Off topic

    A Guardian comment on the live cricket. Do these morons ever give it a rest?

    “2033,” growls Matt Dony. “The Independent Kingdom of Scotland XI travel through the smouldering wasteland of post-B****t England to play a Test match against New Wales. Smyth runs an OBO from a bunker deepunderground, watching on a grainy black and white CRT television, last bastion of the Mainstream Media. We cheer when we’re told to cheer. Smith is still batting.”

    1. I get the impression that some Remainiacs are actively hoping for Britain to do badly if we were ever to achieve the goal of leaving the EU. Being successful is not something they will contemplate. Bitter?

      1. I am afraid that I believe that the creeps will do everything within their power to ensure Brexit is a disaster.
        They will never, ever, do the best for the UK.

      2. We have done averagely badly under EU rule, they take that as the norm, it doesn’t occur to them that we can do much better than that.

        1. There was some programme on TV extolling the success of Singapore. We should be able to do better.

    2. Lots of villagers are wondering where their idiots have disappeared to. Between the Guardian and Al-Beeb I think we’ve located the majority of them.

  73. Things can only get better…

    Sam Gyimah rejects ‘populist Johnson’ as he joins Lib Dems

    The former minister, who was thrown out of the Tories by Boris Johnson, reveals he has joined Jo Swinson’s party
    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/053bc6dfaec4dda848aed6c40eb6822566c995be/0_69_3500_2101/master/3500.jpg?width=620&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=bd4d6a75aae8ff4f5bbbae97ca67f34c

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/14/sam-gyimah-former-tory-minister-slams-populist-johnson-as-he-joins-lib-dems

    Ed Davey: Lib Dem election win would be mandate to remain in EU

    Deputy leader says general election victory is much more likely than it has been in the past

    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/6915607010845dc01fe98d6a7322b77150252211/0_38_3489_2093/master/3489.jpg?width=620&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=eaaa34fcaac52bea5e9035558effd0ec

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/14/lib-dems-election-victory-cancel-brexit-ed-davey

    1. Deputy leader says general election victory is much more likely than it has been in the past

      Remember David Steel and his delusional “Go back to your constituencies, and prepare for government!”

    4. Clear them all out of the Conservatives and into the LibDems and then watch them lose their seats.

    5. Do these defectors to the LibDems really think that people would vote for a turncoat in a General Election?

      1. These pretend Conservatives have been found out as the Liberals that they always were. They are just hanging around now to do as much damage to the United Kingdom as they can before they are kicked out.

    6. He was an appalling and dangerous Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change; we have yet to reap the results …

      1. vw, with the ‘i’ immediately to the right of ‘u’ on the keyboard you could have had a fat finger moment and then it would have been the very, very naughty step for you. 😎

        1. Korky, I am already on the very, very, very naughty step with what I think about the MPs and climate change fanatics! 😎

    9. Proof if proof were ever needed that the Lib Dums exist in a parallel Universe to the rest of us. Admittedly there are a few areas in the UK where there is evidently something in the water, my own city of Bath fo example, but nationwide surely every sentient being can see through these opportunist mongrels.

      Their disingenuous party died the death fifty odd years ago in my lifetime and they should smell the coffee and exit Stage Left pronto.

      The idea that anyone in their right mind would vote for Jo Swinson, a screeching gap toothed junior, is preposterous.

    1. Good grief, is it that close to Christmas? I must hurry up and put the Brussel Sprouts on to boil!

    3. Well she might have taken it all off but would she kindly put it back on.

      Some of us oldies are trying to have a nap.

  75. Proms

    Four Seasons Vivaldi .. although beautiful resonates in the worst way .

    Imagine sitting in a very hot smelly aircraft on the tarmac at Lagos airport waiting to disembark c1977 .. Sabena airlines .. played Vivaldi .. condensation dripped from the aircraft ceiling , a motley collection of restless passengers , thirsty .. and I had my darling younger son aged 4 years old who needed the loo , a drink and who said “My tummy says it’s hungry”… Moh had arrived in Nigeria 3 months earlier… and how bizarre it was to listen to the tape the aircrew played to entertain us… The aircraft was like a sauna , a stinking sauna!

    Over an hour later we managed to disembark.. formalities completed .. and we had another stage of our journey to complete the next day!

        2. A vast improvement on tonight’s and recent Last Nights both on the part of the soloist and the prommers.

  79. The end of Rule Britannia and the singer waves the Rainbow flag. Utterly disgraceful and disrepectful of the bl**dy Yank.

    2. I’m struggling to see how the BBC made the link between the Promenade Concerts and Homosexuality.

      Is it just me ?

      2. The BBC can make a link between anything at all, and homosexuality. As for the gross blob waving the flag, I’m surprised than anyone of any sex would be interested in it.

    3. Glad that we can only hear it on the internet, this rainbow flag stunt is out but an insult to the UK.

      Happily we went to the last night back in the sixties when we could all bellow in a patriotic manner.

      .

      1. Yes – happily I didn’t see that. But waving a Rainbow flag while Rule Britannia is being played is the end. If she had been dressed in a rainbow dress that would have been more acceptable, IMO.

    1. We owe a lot to Cameron. He gave us a referendum, and by a majority we were enabled to leave the European Union. We are leaving the EU on 31st March 2019.

      1. The Phoenicia cocktail bar. Since the 10 million euro makeover the place has gone to the dogs. The low life cheapskates didn’t even bother to wash the ice for my vodkatini.

  85. Utterly disgraceful – the Yank singing (ed) Rule Britannia is flag waving all right – the Rainbow flag. How disrespectful.

  86. It is telling that the same phenomena has happened this year as happened in most of the recent ones. The blue EU flags are clearly increasing in numbers and are very well spread around the room, possibly BBC employees on a “jolly” as long as they wave them. The camera’s love to show them, as many as possible.

    Outside of the Albert Hall, when they show shots from around the country, there is a sea of Union Jacks across the screen with a few other nations flags. The cameraman has to really hunt to find someone with an EU flag, and when they do they stay on them for as long as possible. But the vast majority of the people who turn out clearly prefer our flag.

    The BBC must be fuming at that reality.

    1. I was there. I must admit, the EU banners (not actually flags) hanging on the fronts of the boxes did put me in mind of the way the Third Reich used their swastika banners.

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