Saturday 21 June: The assisted dying Bill is a case of good intentions leading to bad law

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    2. The results at 08:19 BST today Saturday, are as follows:
      Don't know 10,6%
      Yes 9,5%
      No 79,8%
      A good suggestion in the comment thread: these things, as the abortion change, are too important to be left to those sits in Parliament, and should be put to referendum.

      1. Mission creep, as per MAID in Canada, will be the real killer. Astonishing celebrations in the Commons as this bill passed; in the same week that full-term abortions (another example of mission creep) were permitted.

      2. We've already seen how they treat the results of a referendum whose answer they don't like!

    3. The results at 08:19 BST today Saturday, are as follows:
      Don't know 10,6%
      Yes 9,5%
      No 79,8%
      A good suggestion in the comment thread: these things, as the abortion change, are too important to be left to those sits in Parliament, and should be put to referendum.

    2. Isn't that irrefutable proof that all the "climate initatives" are having the right effect, and that we must double down on them so we all freeze to death?

      1. Also that India and China must continue building coal-fired power stations.

  4. Good morning all, and they call the Iranians a "death cult". With this government legalizing the killing of its citizens at both ends of their lives, I would say the same of Labour.

      1. Ironically, in the race to the bottom #TwoTierKeir would leave them all standing.

  6. Morning all,

    After researching the criteria for being really dead I found that the human body is amazing in the way in tries to keep itself alive. What is interesting is the autonomony of the heart and the way it doesn:t need the brain for its survival.

    This video reveals a way of assisted death which incurs no pain but I do wonder what experiences the subject goes through during the process:

    https://youtube.com/shorts/GJHiLDXK4KY?si=k6VzQlzYUAo1Fwhx

  7. Morning all,

    After researching the criteria for being really dead I found that the human body is amazing in the way in tries to keep itself alive. What is interesting is the autonomony of the heart and the way it doesn:t need the brain for its survival.

    This video reveals a way of assisted death which incurs no pain but I do wonder what experiences the subject goes through during the process:

    https://youtube.com/shorts/GJHiLDXK4KY?si=k6VzQlzYUAo1Fwhx

    1. In practice, not so good. I reckon the Commies had it right: a bullet in the back of rthe head.

  8. Morning all,

    After researching the criteria for being really dead I found that the human body is amazing in the way in tries to keep itself alive. What is interesting is the autonomony of the heart and the way it doesn:t need the brain for its survival.

    This video reveals a way of assisted death which incurs no pain but I do wonder what experiences the subject goes through during the process:

    https://youtube.com/shorts/GJHiLDXK4KY?si=k6VzQlzYUAo1Fwhx

  10. Some interesting stats in this piece:

    "America’s military empire spans nearly 800 bases in 160 countries, operated at a cost of more than $156 billion annually. As Vine reports, “Even US military resorts and recreation areas in places like the Bavarian Alps and Seoul, South Korea, are bases of a kind. Worldwide, the military runs more than 170 golf courses.”

    This is how a military empire occupies the globe.

    https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/the_real_national_emergency_endless_wars_failing_infrastructure_and_a_dying_republic

  11. DNA screening for every baby on the NHS
    Advances will allow people to avoid fatal diseases and receive personalised health care

    Laura Donnelly
    Health Editor
    Related Topics
    Infant health, NHS (National Health Service), Wes Streeting, Labour Party, DNA
    20 June 2025 10:30pm BST
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/20/dna-screening-for-every-baby-under-nhs-plan/

    Every baby will have their DNA mapped under an NHS revolution to predict and prevent disease.

    Wes Streeting, the Health Secretary, said the advances in genomics would allow people to “leapfrog” killer illnesses and receive “personalised” health care.

    Within a decade, every newborn will undergo whole genome sequencing, which assesses the risk of hundreds of diseases.

    The advances aim to pave the way for an end to blanket screening and rudimentary health Measurements, Observations, and Tests (MOTs) that simply check for markers like high cholesterol and blood pressure after problems have become entrenched.

    Gary White
    just now
    I pity those poor basstards found to be carrying Anglo Saxon genes.

    Comment by Martin Houghton-king.

    MH

    Martin Houghton-king
    just now
    And so it begins. From Sci-fi to reality. If you haven’t seen Gattaca I suggest you do. This is nothing to do with healthcare and everything to do with social mobility and control. What else would you expect from Marxists.

    Comment by Malcolm Sargent.

    MS

    Malcolm Sargent
    1 min ago
    Oh dear. We have termination up until full term, killing off the oldies and now testing for inconvenient diseases which cost money. How long before the testing is done before birth to weed out the weak, the impure, wrong colour hair, eyes, skin etc. Herr Hitler would have fitted right in to modern Britain

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      1. Images of deformed inbreeds might sour the milk on the nations cereal as they caught up on their morning newz?

    5. Life Insurance and Health Insurance companies will insist on this data being provided to them when an individual applies for a policy.

      1. Yes my immediate concern is that without permission it will all be registered in police files.

      3. Let us not forget that NHS data is already sold to pharma research companies unless you opt out (and probably still then)
        So this will just enable any foreign government or supranational organisation to have a dna profile of every Briton.
        The end of the NHS can't come soon enough.

    8. Isn’t it handy they have just voted to allow infanticide, and “assisted” dying?

    9. No wonder they are so keen to allow abortion right up to the point of birth.
      The computer says "No"
      The DoNotAllower says KILL.

      1. Likewise (I had to look it up – White Plume Moth Pterophorus pentadactyla ) The Caterpillars eat Bindweed – Hooray!!!

      2. I have very occasionally seen them, but didn't know the name.
        I see that King Stephen has found a use for them.

  17. Morning all 🙂😊
    A strange night I feel all the extra medication is upsetting my system. I'm going to have to go back to my normal routine. It could be put down to climate change but I don't think I can accept that in this case.
    Very similar to what our politicians have just done to our country. They have treated us as if we are all the same in every single aspect of health issues.
    Unfortunately for us all, it's not unusual for them to unbalance every single thing they come into contact with.

    3. I'm wary of medication now. After some internet research, I fould that stopping taking methformin has has the effect of reducing brain fog, and also reducing blood sugar levels! I keep a plot of the values taken first thing before any consumption, and the average is down, although the standard deviation is up. Also up is my energy level, so I'm now being irritating by dashing about doing things rather than sitting in a comfy chair reading NoTTL.
      How does that work, I wonder?

      1. Sonny Boy Snr's pancreas was given a knock by his leukaemia treatment.
        He adjusted his diet and ignores metformin.

        1. Firstborn found the same effect. He always has eaten good, nutritios, food, but he too has less brain for and enough energy to go and train like a maniac at his local gym. He's getting to be a very muscular lad!

      2. I refused to take metformin on the grounds that I couldn't afford the increase in usage of bog paper, the gliclazide I take doesn't seem to affect my B/S level significantly but the carbs eaten does

      3. I am on Ramipril. It says to avoid high potassium foods like bananas and leafy greens.

        Last year after a blood test i spent the night in hospital on a drip.

        The diagnosis? Dangerously low levels of potassium.

    4. Sadly, all too many medics nowadays allow the perfect to become the enemy of the good.
      Hence all the pills and scans.

  18. The invasion of RAF Brize Norton

    Back in the early 1960's, as a 19 year old RN Apprentice, my task as part of the Duty Watch on a cold, dark night at a Naval Air Station in the North of Scotland, was to guard a "V bomber", that was on dispersal deployment (being hidden) from it's parent airfield.

    I was given a pick axe handle to defend myself and the aircraft, from thieves/intruders.

    I was successful in my duty.

        1. This was the norm when on station security exercises during the annual TACEVAL (Tactical Evaluation)

      2. When doing the Strategic Arms Stockpile Guard in Germany we had an SLR with a magazine of 10 rounds.

      3. We had them ‘available’ but had to go to a ‘higher authority’ to get the ammo

  19. Good morning all.
    Another beautiful start to what promises to be a hot and sweltry day. A small tad under 17°C with a maximum for yesterday of 25½°C.
    As I'd left the water in, yesterday evenings cold bath was followed by another at 01:00 mafter which I slept pretty well for a change.
    We could do with some rain.

  20. Morning, all Y'all.
    Sunny night last night, a beautiful effect when it went behind the hill – a turquoise rim to the mountain. Not sure what time that was, but I'd been woken by bladder pressure and had to slide off to the dunny.
    Didn't need the light to read in bed, either.
    Love this time of the year. Totally clear today, chill wind blowing, a great day to get sunburn.

  21. Morning, all Y'all.
    Sunny night last night, a beautiful effect when it went behind the hill – a turquoise rim to the mountain. Not sure what time that was, but I'd been woken by bladder pressure and had to slide off to the dunny.
    Didn't need the light to read in bed, either.
    Love this time of the year. Totally clear today, chill wind blowing, a great day to get sunburn.

  22. Good Morning!

    In Part 3: of our series No War With Russia we concentrate on The Economic Agenda Behind the War in Ukraine and how vultures like Blackrock are heavily invested in the war.

    Maryam Gholami writes of the internal impact in Iran of the Israeli air strikes and, in The Regime is Falling”: Reza Pahlavi’s Call for Revolt as Iran Trembles Under Pressure, supports the Iranian Crown Prince's call for a revolt against the regime.

    Former soldier and policeman John Surtees writes that while he does not condone the violence seen in Ballymena recently, he fully understands it and lays the blame squarely on governments and, in Bally Awful – When the People Riot, It’s Because the State Has Declared War on Them, says that unless the State backs off, there is worse to come.

    Energy Watch: Over the last 24 hours: Britain's electric power was sourced from Gas, 21.1%; Solar, 10.4%: Wind 23.1%; Imports, 16.7%; Biomass, 10%; Nuclear 15.9% and Miscellaneous, 2.9%.

  23. 407943+ up ticks,

    Morning Each,

    This governing party will be trying to fathom out the meaning of "good intentions"

    Everything is falling into place, as in following
    WEF / NWO with royal seal guidelines
    arranged / organised death at the wombs exit plus,
    eliminate those that are seen as
    NOT ABLE TO KEEP UP.

    I do believe we would be hard pressed to find a more treacherous, deceitful, murderous, collective set of unsuitable hands as a governing body for our well being, upon this planet.

    Daily their actions are more likened to the mafia especially now that MURDER INC, has come on line.

    Saturday 21 June: The assisted dying Bill is a case of good intentions leading to bad law

  24. Good Moaning.
    A spot of Michael Deacon to start the day.

    Stephen Fry says JK Rowling’s been ‘radicalised’. I’ve got just one question for him

    Could he kindly inform us which of her beliefs are extreme?

    Michael Deacon21 June 2025 6:00am BST

    Sir Stephen Fry, the renowned psychoanalyst, says he believes that JK Rowling “has been radicalised”. I must say that I for one was somewhat taken aback by this diagnosis. Because, if Ms Rowling has indeed been “radicalised”, that means she harbours beliefs that are “radical”.

    In which case, would Sir Stephen be so kind as to tell us which of her beliefs he has in mind?

    Take, for example, Ms Rowling’s belief that women don’t have testicles. Or her belief that men can’t give birth. Is either of those beliefs radical? Extreme? Wildly at variance with established medical science?

    Perhaps he’s thinking of her belief that biological males should not be entitled to enter the female changing room at their local swimming pool and strip naked in front of small girls. Or her belief that confused children should not be pumped with drugs designed to prevent them from going through a normal, healthy puberty. Or her belief that we should not grant a convicted rapist his wish to be placed in a jail full of women merely because he’s suddenly taken to sporting a blonde wig and pink leggings.

    Does Sir Stephen consider those beliefs to be radical? I do hope he’ll let us know. It’s urgent. Otherwise, there’s a serious risk that innocent members of the public will become radicalised, too.

    In the meantime, I’m anxious to ascertain how exactly Ms Rowling came to fall for the outlandish notion that women are female and men are male. Who radicalised her? Sir Stephen reckons it was “Terfs” (i.e., trans-exclusionary radical feminists). But I wonder if she was brainwashed at an early age – by, say, an O-level biology teacher. Or perhaps some appallingly irresponsible school librarian gave her access to a dictionary.

    Whatever the source of her indoctrination, I dread to think what crazed ideological nonsense this dangerous woman will pollute our children’s minds with next. The Earth is round? Water is wet? Members of the family Ursidae typically defecate in arboreal environs?

    Then again, I suppose there is an alternative way to look at this story. Which is that the beliefs Ms Rowling espouses have been completely mainstream since the dawn of humanity – and that it is, in fact, her opponents who have been “radicalised”. Just a thought.

    1. "Members of the family Ursidae typically defecate in arboreal environs" – lovely! Stolen…

      2. One of mine: "Are you questioning the ecclesiastical affiliations of the apostolic Vicar of Rome?"

    2. Sadly I think it's Fry who has been radicalised – the man has definitely lost it!

      1. It was always there.
        The film "Peters' Friends" (1992) was a fest of then youngish bien pensants acting out Fry's dreams.
        It inevitably ended with Fry – as Peter – nobly accepting his fate to die of AIDs.

  25. Noticeable the endless whimpering in the UK press about how hot it is – "braving the heat at Ascot", "How hot can it get on the tube during a heatwave?"
    Subliminal fear-mongering about glowball warming of course, but since the UK population has now been replaced by Africans and Arabs, surely they will feel even more at home?

    1. The Africans and Arabs won’t be used to the humidity? Not so sure about SSA but the ME has dry heat, which is easier to bear.

      On the tube, the HamCit, Circle, District and Met lines are air conditioned.

      1. I remember being flown over Stonehenge in a helicopter on the way back from a filming mission – I was stationed at Larkhill at the time – the camera was strapped to the underside of the helicopter. As we descended the crowd surrounding the stones all turned to face us and give us the V sign. 10,000 or more – possibly a world record – only to be broken by Starmer or Miliband in the near future. The film went to some MOD department and I never saw it. I would have liked to see the faces of the researchers who did though.

    3. Ah, if you've ever spent the afternoon in a morning suit, waistcoat, striped trousers and top hat, you'd realise that "braving the heat at Ascot" is not an exaggeration!

  26. Michael Deacon – part 2

    Lost in translation

    A 29-year-old Afghan asylum seeker, we learnt this week, attempted to defend his rape of a 15-year-old Scottish girl by claiming that he had not been “educated” about the “significant cultural differences” between Afghanistan and Britain. As it turned out, the court didn’t buy this excuse. Which is a relief.

    After all, doesn’t his argument imply that Britain was somehow at fault, for failing to “educate” him about these “differences” when he arrived?

    God only knows what he thinks the authorities should have said, the day his dinghy washed up here in 2023.

    “Good afternoon, sir, and welcome to our country! Please do make yourself at home. But, if you don’t mind, we’d just like to help you fit in by giving you a quick introduction to a few traditional British customs.

    “Number one: we’re completely obsessed with talking about the weather! Number two: we drink endless cups of tea! Number three: we all absolutely love the adorable adventures of Paddington bear!

    “Oh, and number four: we generally tend to frown on grown men who rape children in the street.

    “We appreciate, sir, that as a newcomer you may find this a touch puzzling. But then, all cultures have their distinctive little quirks and foibles, don’t they? And ‘not sexually assaulting terrified pubescent girls’ just happens to be one of ours. So we thought we’d better give you a little heads-up, to save you from making a rather embarrassing faux pas!

    “Of course, there are some people in our country who have been known to disregard the above convention. Late BBC disc jockeys, for example, and Pakistani grooming gangs. The feeling among the wider British public, though, is that it’s still something of a no-no, and best avoided. After all, you can’t be certain that our police, social workers and politicians will cover it up for you! I mean, they might, but it’s not guaranteed.

    “Anyway, thanks for listening, sir, and have a lovely new life! The hotel’s this way, we’ll just come and check you in.”

    1. "As it turned out, the court didn’t buy this excuse" – which is unusual in Britain today, given some of the idiocy we do accept!

    2. Those phrases for his defence were thought up by a defence lawyer not the bloke himself

      1. Richard Simon Hermer – Lord Hermer, Attorney General perhaps? A friend and former colleague of Keir Starmer at Doughty Street Chambers. Hermer was a donor to Starmer's campaign in the 2020 Labour leadership election. How did he end up as Attorney General? It's a complete mystery.

  27. Michael Deacon – part 3

    A question of Pride

    LGBT Pride is about to enter its fourth week. Best wishes to all who are still celebrating. I hope no one will be offended, however, if I respectfully ask why this event now has to last for an entire month.

    It does feel like quite a long time. Especially when you compare the lengths of certain other annual events. For example, we have Pride month – but Remembrance fortnight. So we now spend twice as long waving rainbow flags as we do honouring those who died defending us.

    There’s nothing hateful about suggesting that Pride has started to drag on a bit. When people complain about shops putting their festive decorations up in September, it doesn’t mean they hate Christmas. It just means they think Christmas should last 12 days, not four months.

    Mind you, there are now so many different groups under the LGBTQIA+ umbrella, I suppose it takes about a month just to list them all.

    1. I just ignore the whole thing. I resent their appropriation of the rainbow, as I'm basically a child at heart and love the colours (my favourite brolly is rainbow…) but now the rainbow carries a political message, so I don't use it anywhere. That makes me sad, not gay.

      1. Just been on the Daily Sceptic and someone has posted a link btl on one of the articles to Bristol fire “services” cringe “Pride” video. It was so awful I wondered if it might be a spoof, but apparently it is deadly serious.

        This country is fcked, I just don’t see how we get back from here.

      3. Somewhere over the rainbow
        Aye up Pride
        There's an England that I heard of
        Once in a lullaby

      4. The spinnaker on my last dinghy was a bit rainbowesque as I couldn’t decide on one colour and asked the sailmaker to put “one of each” in rainbow order – luckily not my boat any more!

    2. I just ignore the whole thing. I resent their appropriation of the rainbow, as I'm basically a child at heart and love the colours (my favourite brolly is rainbow…) but now the rainbow carries a political message, so I don't use it anywhere. That makes me sad, not gay.

    3. If you said you're proud to be a woman, or I said I'm proud to be a man, would people think us weird?

    4. 407943+ up ticks,

      Morning Anne,

      The reason being I believe is that
      cometh the great revealence, the
      " TOOL & CABINET" can argue their corner for forming the biggest daisy chain in the world.

    5. The more people who can be persuaded to become homosexual the fewer babies will be born. Stella Creasy's solution to overpopulation is, by comparison, both horrible and ineffective.

  28. The rainbow used to be a colourful symbol of hope.
    Nowadays, it's a symbol of totalitarian intolerance.

  30. just thinking about the death bill.

    It’s only just occurred to me that my parents could do it, without telling me.

    It’s just appalling.

  35. In the absence of Ps Pedantic, it falls upon me to remind assebled company that this is not the longest day, it's 24 hours long like any other day.

    1. A Pedant writes: " On Earth, a solar day is around 24 hours. However, Earth's orbit is elliptical, meaning it's not a perfect circle. That means some solar days on Earth are a few minutes longer than 24 hours and some are a few minutes shorter."

      1. 407943+ up ticks,

        Morning Pip,
        Safe I do hope seeing as the odious issue is in the public domain.

        I saying that I have NO trust in 48% of the public,

    3. The "Full Enquiry" into Pakistani rape gangs will be a whitewash – or rather a brown wash.

    4. Allegedly.
      Edited: a man (Mr Ibrehim) has been charged, so we cannot comment until after he is given a cultural awareness course, British citizenship and a pat on the back.
      The court lists his address in Southsea where by total 100% coincidence the Royal Beach Hotel houses people from abroad.
      Interesting that a purpose built Hotel can function as a semi-permanent HMO (doss house) for several years without the guests claiming a tenancy (followed by Housing Benefits etc).
      They cannot all be on holiday.

    1. But didn't God create all the Atoms and all the particles throughout the billions of galaxies in the known Universe?

    1. Apparently it also shrinks the bladder into nothing.
      I'm not sure if that's just on humans or horses as well.

  41. I am hoping that this comment will appear on today's NoTTLe page (thanks, Geoff), but I am having the greatest difficulty in getting any comments posted. I am trying to let you know how I did today with Wordle, so let me try again:

    No, I click on Paste and nothing comes up. Well, I got today's Wordle in 3 (a Birdie) but I can't get you to see. So I think I'll just give up for now.

    2. Did it look like this?

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    3. I press 'Share' on the Wordle site, which saves it to your 'clipboard'. and then when posting it here I press the Windows button and the letter V at the same time then click on the Wordle that is saved there.
      This is for Windows only presumably.

    4. I posted my Wordle just after midnight so it is lost in the ether.

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  42. Parliament’s culture of death and the Church’s troubling silence.
    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/parliaments-culture-of-death-and-the-churchs-troubling-silence/

    BTL

    So, within a week Parliament has voted for abortion up to the very moment before birth and euthanasia with inadequate safeguards.

    Our MPs clearly are happy to kill babies before they are even born and old people when they become a burden. It is hardly surprising that normally peaceful and humane people now want many politicians dead!

  43. Well, I've just tried for the final time to paste my Wordle attempt. So I shall now close down my attempts and do something a little more useful. See you all later – or not as the case might be.

  45. Well, at least you know.

    June Slater secretary of the Farage Fan Club explains on Dan Wootton show that Farage has gone Islamic friendly for the right reasons.

    "If you want to know what it will be like going down the Rupert Lowe route.. then expect to live like Northern Ireland for the next ten years. Expect to have cordons in your street. Expect to have sporadic attacks, vehicles ploughing into restaurants. Violent & horrid. You will create that environemnt.. "

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a98219992ad7b87578997fb30992d3a4df2573b160e3ccd68b91a919ffc00afc.jpg

    1. Spot the flawed logic?

      This was in response to Tommy R listing Farage's red flags on Islam..

      Chairman Zia Yusuf buys Reform for £200,000.
      Shamima Begum welcome back.
      Tommy Robinson not welcome.
      Tommy Robinson's supporters not welcome. LOL
      Expulsion of Rupert Lowe.
      Rupert Lowe reported to police.
      Mass deportation not possible.
      Didn't support Lowe's grooming gang inquiry.
      Not fussed about demographic replacement.
      We can't isolate Islam in any way, we must work with them.

      1. 407943+ up ticks,

        Morning KB,

        we surely must invest in a brand new, GREAT BIG DOG IN THE FIGHT party.

        The Farmers Food and Freedom Party

        This parties founding members have a vested interest in so far as its pedigree goes back a thousand plus years.

        1. It's inevitable and Reform will end up fractured like the Irish civil war.

          The conflict left Irish society divided and embittered for generations. Today, the three largest political parties in Ireland are direct descendants of the opposing sides in the war: Fine Gael, from the supporters of the pro-Treaty side; Fianna Fáil, the party formed from the bulk of the anti-Treaty republicans by Éamon de Valera; and Sinn Féin, comprising the minority of anti-Treaty republicans who refused to join any partitionist party.

    2. Spot the flawed logic?

      This was in response to Tommy R listing Farage's red flags on Islam..

      Chairman Zia Yusuf buys Reform for £200,000.
      Shamima Begum welcome back.
      Tommy Robinson not welcome.
      Tommy Robinson's supporters not welcome. LOL
      Expulsion of Rupert Lowe.
      Rupert Lowe reported to police.
      Mass deportation not possible.
      Didn't support Lowe's grooming gang inquiry.
      Not fussed about demographic replacement.
      We can't isolate Islam in any way, we must work with them.

    3. Spot the flawed logic?

      This was in response to Tommy R listing Farage's red flags on Islam..

      Chairman Zia Yusuf buys Reform for £200,000.
      Shamima Begum welcome back.
      Tommy Robinson not welcome.
      Tommy Robinson's supporters not welcome. LOL
      Expulsion of Rupert Lowe.
      Rupert Lowe reported to police.
      Mass deportation not possible.
      Didn't support Lowe's grooming gang inquiry.
      Not fussed about demographic replacement.
      We can't isolate Islam in any way, we must work with them.

    4. Oh, just like now, does he mean? Deferred action is ALWAYS worse & harder than action this day
      Farage & crew have now lost my vote.

    6. Um, haven't we already had vehicles ploughing into people? Isn't that violent and horrid (and worse than ploughing into restaurants)? Sporadic attacks? What was 7/7, or the Manchester Arena then?

  46. 407943+ up ticks,

    Morning R,

    Then I believe the fall-out will be horrendous, raping & abusing children could be considered as being, far worse than abusing the peoples vehicles, that brings it into context for the eyes tight shut brigade.

  47. For those who may be interested in the White Clots which were not observed in Human bodies during the embalming process prior to the nMRA vaccines, here's an update from John Campbell interviewing a retired USAir Force Major who is collating data on the subject…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTfKMRdYCOE

    1. I think it deserves an Irony Alert..
      Delaying the inevitable and all that..
      Though I must admit I have lived in stable countries with large Muslim populations such as Singapore 15%. Spoiler Alert: Lee Kuan Yew’s style of “iron fist” rule meant they dared not step out of line, and were barred from Special Forces. "If we have to live together in peace, then all have to adopt 'live and let live' as our principle."

      1. They don't want to live together in peace, and we seem to have the worst of the very worst here.

    2. We certainly need Salter!

      If the salt hath lost its savour wherewith shall it be salted?

    1. Fingerprints, clear photos for face recognition, DNA samples for crime scenes, microchipping to track and trace.

      Keep them in internment camps for as much background check as can be done.

      Once that is done let them free with the message :"You get absolutely nothing from us, sleep rough, work in the black economy and if you commit a crime you will be deported to wherever your DNA suggests is your most likely ancestral origin. "

  53. Thinking about the hot, dry weather, I try to recall springs/summers of prolonged heat and drought and my Focus turns on:

    1976 … what a scorcher, The Oval outfield almost a dustbowl whilst Michael Holding skittles England. The August appointed Minister for Drought, Dennis Howell brought it all to a sudden end with thunderstorms on August Bank Holiday followed by a wet September.

    1984: prolonged drought + a long drubbing from the West Indians. Not a great time to start a coal strike.

    2003: I cannot recall a year of more sunshine from early March right through until mid-October.

    indeed, there seemed to be run of good summers through the 90s until the mid-noughties. But, then it tailed off and barbecues seemed to become less frequent ….

      1. It was an ordinary summer until August when the heat really set in, with severe weather across Europe. By the start of September, the countryside was whiter than in 1976.

        1. 1975 was also a hot one, but that seems to have disappeared down a memory hole. It was heralded by snow in early June.

          1. I remember that snow in June.
            I arrived in the midst of it for a showdown with the less efficient members of the ward nursing team. Lack of basic care for patient with mouth cancer was the final straw.
            I so thoroughly shredded a known troublemaker (every ward she had been on had had problems with her) that she went off sick for a week.

          2. 1989 and 90 were also hot – the day we had my mother's ashes interred, we were sitting in a traffic jam and it was hot. Tempers were fraying.

      2. 2003 – the year of my first grandchild …. I spent lots of time walking her pushchair + adjusting the umbrella shielding her from the sun.

        1. I do remember it now – it was the year I went up the Cathedral tower with my friend Mary on a very hot day in August. There were reports of old people dying of heatstroke, especially in France.
          There was hot weather in 2006 as well – they resurfaced the lane outside our house – and the tar melted.

        2. Very hot. My daughter was born on 20th June that year and was dressed solely in a nappy for about 12 weeks.

      3. It stayed in my mind, because I was pregnant! And because they were saying that in twenty years from then , it would be counted as a cool summer because global warming!!

      1. Oh yes, I remember 1959 …. along with 1955, the only decent summer of the 1950s.

      2. Very hot that summer – the year I changed schools – my mum took me out of school for two weeks in June and we went to London, doing all the sights and seeing some old friends and rellies. It was still hot in September when I started at the new school and those who had the summer uniform were allowed to wear it as it was so warm.

    1. Signed it.

      The number of signature is rising steeply. Now (1059 BST) over 103,000

    6. 'Review possible penalties for social media posts, including the use of prison'

      Wishy washy rubbish.

  55. The Attorney General should not have a veto on military action

    Britain's voice on the world stage is being stifled by a cautious legalism that views foreign policy through the rearview mirror

    Suella Braverman • 19th June 2025, 6:49pm BST

    The role of the attorney general has always been a curious hybrid: part-jurist, part-politician. He is the government's foremost legal advisor but also a member of the political Cabinet. He is not one of the thousands of anonymous (and apolitical, at least on paper) Civil Service lawyers offering cautious legal guidance behind closed doors. No, the attorney general is, or ought to be, someone who understands the weight of democratic mandate, who sits at the Cabinet table not just to interpret the law but to help the elected government navigate it in service of the people's will.

    This role, by its nature, requires a certain dexterity: legal acumen, certainly, but also political courage. Some attorneys general have leaned heavily into the legal: aloof, abstracted, priestly. Others, more controversially, have seen their political duty as primary: a jurist who bends with the winds of popular sovereignty. I count myself unapologetically in the latter camp. I saw my role as AG as elected representative first, bound by my promise to the people and my party. My duty was to provide lawful pathways, not legalistic roadblocks, to implement the prime minister's democratic agenda.

    But what we have now in the present Attorney General is something quite different: a Whitehall legalist who appears to have mistaken his office for a courtroom and forgotten that he serves in Cabinet, not from chambers in Lincoln's Inn. He behaves not as the attorney to the Government but as a robed inquisitor, as a champion of international law in its most unrooted, abstract, and often contradictory form.

    This is not just about his conflicts with Cabinet colleagues. We're now in the territory of deliberate obstruction: policy sabotage masquerading as legal rectitude. From attempting to reshape the constitutional role of First Treasury Counsel by installing an ideological legal inner circle, to smearing those of us who are ECHR sceptics as "Nazis", he is transforming the Law Officers' Department into a vehicle for Left-wing judicial activism.

    The consequences are already dire. Most recently, it is reported that the Attorney General has moved to block Britain from joining the US in potential military action in Iran. This, allegedly, on legal grounds.
    Of course, the legal dimension matters. No serious person would argue otherwise. But law in this context is not absolute; it is interpretive. And when the Attorney General starts using legal advice as a veto on foreign policy, overriding the collective wisdom of Cabinet, the intelligence agencies, the military, and elected ministers, then the tail has started wagging the dog.

    To be clear, under international law, military force is permissible in narrow circumstances: UN Security Council authorisation, host-state consent, or collective self-defence under Article 51 of the UN Charter. In 2018, we invoked the doctrine of humanitarian intervention to justify strikes in Syria. There is precedent, there is scope, and there is nuance.

    Looking at Iran's sustained aggression; its funding and arming of Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis and a constellation of Shiite militias across the region; its direct attacks on Israeli civilians and cities; its escalating nuclear programme with range capabilities stretching to the UK, it is entirely arguable that collective self-defence is not just viable, but urgent.

    And yet, we are told that the Attorney General finds this too fraught: too difficult. That under no circumstances could UK participation include striking Iran itself. This, while Iranian missiles crash into civilian neighbour-hoods, rockets rain down on hospitals and innocent Israelis are killed. It would be comic if it weren't so dangerous. To tie the hands of government in the face of tyranny is not moral clarity; it is moral cowardice dressed in judicial robes.

    This Attorney General is not elected. He, personally, holds no democratic mandate. Yet his advice – shaded, it seems, by a particular worldview that sees Western action as the problem and our enemies as misunderstood – is now shaping the limits of Britain's global standing. If the Prime Minister chooses to follow such counsel blindly, we risk becoming spectators to history rather than participants in its making.

    In moments of crisis, the question is not simply "Is this legal?" but also "Is this right, necessary, and proportionate?" Good legal advice answers all four questions, not just one in isolation.

    Right now, Britain's voice on the world stage is being stifled by a cautious legalism that views foreign policy through the rearview mirror. The Attorney General's role is not to moralise, but to advise. It is the Prime Minister who must decide.

    History will not forgive us for dithering while our allies act. Nor will it forgive those who mistook paralysis for principle. The attorney general is supposed to safeguard the law, not sanctify it at the expense of sovereignty, security, and strategic clarity.

    If this Attorney General cannot understand that, then perhaps he is in the wrong job.

    Hon Suella Braverman KC MP has served as attorney general

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/19/attorney-general-should-not-have-veto-on-military-action

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  58. On the plus side, I now know how Emmental and Gruyere cheese get their holes.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14825399/Mini-black-holes-hiding-HOME.html

    "Mini black holes could be hiding in your HOME, scientists warn

    Black holes are some of the most violent and destructive objects in the universe.

    And as terrifying as it sounds, thousands of these mysterious voids could be whizzing through your home at this very moment.

    Scientists believe the universe may be littered with objects called primordial black holes.

    According to some calculations, as many as 1,000 could be passing through every square metre of the planet each year.

    One of these black holes might even blast straight through your head, without you ever knowing it was there.

    Primordial black holes are ancient entities formed in the very first moments of the Big Bang, which have been drifting through the universe ever since.

    However, these are not the star-swallowing, galaxy-churning supermassive black holes that appear in science-fiction blockbusters like Interstellar.

    Instead, they are microscopic singularities no larger than a hydrogen atom, ranging from the mass of a single bacterium to that of a medium-sized asteroid.

    Typically, black holes form when a star with a lot of mass collapses in on itself until it forms an ultra-dense point known as a singularity.

    These points of matter have such a strong gravitational pull that even light is pulled in – hence why they appear 'black'.

    However, primordial black holes might form in a slightly different way.

    In fact, these would have formed so early on in the universe that stars wouldn't have even had time to form.

    Dr De-Chang Dai, a black hole researcher from Yangzhou University, China, told MailOnline: 'Primordial black holes are black holes created soon after the Big Bang.

    'At this period, the temperature and energy density of the universe were very high.'

    So, when small pockets of 'overdense' matter formed, this high energy squished them into very small black holes.

    Over the 13.8 billion years that followed, some of these black holes would have slowly evaporated away through a process called Hawking Radiation, leaving behind only tiny remnants.

    The main reason scientists are so interested in these currently theoretical objects is that they are one of the best candidates for dark matter.

    Dark matter is a hypothetical substance which scientists have proposed to make up the mass which seems to be missing from galaxies.

    Although we can't see it or interact with it, scientists estimate that dark matter might make up around 27 per cent of the universe.

    Since primordial black holes don't radiate much energy and are almost impossible to detect, while also holding a lot of mass, they are a good fit for this role.

    Professor Dejan Stojkovic, a black hole physicist from the University at Buffalo, told MailOnline: 'In the light of all these null results from the direct and indirect dark matter searches, primordial black holes appear to be the least exotic possibility.'

    If these tiny black holes really are what scientists have been calling 'dark matter' then they should be found almost everywhere in the universe, including in our solar system.

    However, this will depend on how much mass scientists think a primordial black hole contains.

    Dr Sarah Geller, a theoretical physicist from UC Santa Cruz, says that if primordial black holes exist then they probably have a mass of 'a billion billion grams each' – around the size of an asteroid.

    Dr Geller says: 'Supposing that they make up all of the dark matter then we can expect there to be at least one within a distance of 5 Astronomical Units from the Sun – a distance of about Jupiter’s orbit.'

    Likewise, Valentin Thoss, a black hole researcher and PhD candidate at the University of Munich told MailOnline: 'If their mass is ten trillion tonnes, which is comparable to a very heavy asteroid, there would be on average a few dozen within the planetary zone of the solar system.

    'Within 20 years we can expect one to fly past Earth at a distance of around 200 million kilometres, which is roughly the distance between the sun and Earth.'

    However, the lighter each individual black hole is the more will be needed to make up the mass of dark matter in the universe, and some researchers think they could be much lighter.

    Scientists used to think that black holes would eventually evaporate over time to the point that they just vanished.

    This could allow black holes to be much smaller than researchers had previously thought possible.

    Professor Stojkovic suggests that all the primordial black holes might have shrunk to become 'Planck mass remnants', weighing just 10 micrograms.

    At this mass, the universe would be so full of primordial black holes that 1,000 per year would pass through every square metre of Earth.

    What happens if a black hole hits me?

    The fact that there are black holes hanging around the solar system might sound alarming, but just how worrying that is depends on the black holes' mass.

    If the black holes are as small as Professor Stojkovic suggests they could be, then there is nothing to worry about at all.

    '1000 crossings per year per square metre is not drastic at all since 10 micrograms is about the mass of a bacteria.

    NASA simulation imagines what it would be like to fall into black hole

    'We have trillions of bacteria around us at any moment, though they are not moving very fast.'

    These tiny black holes would pass through your body without even disturbing your cells, let alone causing any noticeable damage.

    As the predicted mass of the black holes gets larger the chances of one hitting Earth becomes rarer, but they also have the possibility of creating more damage.

    Travelling at around 180 miles per second (300 kilometres per second) a black hole with a mass between that of an asteroid and a small planet would pass through Earth in seconds.

    However, this wouldn't be like an asteroid of normal density hitting Earth.

    Because primordial black holes are so small, about the size of an atom, scientists say their passage through solid matter would be like a bullet going through a cloud.

    If one were to hit Earth it might leave a very small tunnel straight through the planet and create some unusual seismic signals but otherwise wouldn't be detectable.

    But if one of these larger primordial black holes hit you, then you definitely would feel it.

    Dr Geller says: 'Most likely this wouldn’t be great for that person’s health.

    'The primordial black hole would go right through a person, and though it leaves only a very tiny hole, it might impart some velocity and give the person a real kick!'

    Previous calculations suggest that a black hole with a mass of seven trillion tonnes would hit with as much force as a .22-calibre rifle bullet.

    Just like a gunshot, that would be enough power to rupture organs, tear flesh, and destroy your brain.

    Fortunately, this is right up at the higher end of primordial black holes possible masses and you would need to be extremely unlucky to encounter one of these.

    Dr Geller says:' In practice, the chances of such a collision are vanishingly tiny: it’s much more likely you could succeed in dropping a peanut from an aeroplane at random into a field the size of a million football fields and hit a single specific blade of grass.'

    BLACK HOLES HAVE A GRAVITATIONAL PULL SO STRONG NOT EVEN LIGHT CAN ESCAPE

    Black holes are so dense and their gravitational pull is so strong that no form of radiation can escape them – not even light.

    They act as intense sources of gravity which hoover up dust and gas around them. Their intense gravitational pull is thought to be what stars in galaxies orbit around.

    How they are formed is still poorly understood. Astronomers believe they may form when a large cloud of gas up to 100,000 times bigger than the sun, collapses into a black hole.

    Many of these black hole seeds then merge to form much larger supermassive black holes, which are found at the centre of every known massive galaxy.

    Alternatively, a supermassive black hole seed could come from a giant star, about 100 times the sun's mass, that ultimately forms into a black hole after it runs out of fuel and collapses.

    When these giant stars die, they also go 'supernova', a huge explosion that expels the matter from the outer layers of the star into deep space."

      3. I was thinking that their favourite habitat must be within teenagers' digestive tracts.

    2. Since the Big Bang theory is being brought into question I will discount the above until we know more.

    3. Britain is infested with ''Black Holes'. Leicester, Bradford, Birmingham, Luton, Rotherham, Blackburn, Manchester, Coventry Newham , Sheffield , just to name a few. Too many to list.

    4. There are elementary particles called neutrinos that are electrically neutral and interacts via the weak interaction and gravity. Neutrinos are extremely light, and their rest mass is practically zero. One hundred trillion neutrinos careen through you each second. Not many people know that.

      One hundred trillion every second – and you worry about climate change?

  61. 407943+ up ticks,

    May one ask,
    Just listened to a week in westminster, two politico's views one pro bill, the one opposing the bill said we will work together in regards to the safety of the bill.

    How could she foresee the bills safety being in question before it even gets traction?

    1. Sadly to be found in many of our inner cities. As to the kids from different fathers, the fathers may be unknown – whichever one of the many hit the spot.

  63. Q: What is the best method for inducing rainfall in the UK?

    A: Hang a complete household wash on the line 😲😲

  64. I wonder how many of the kill the babies and burdensome oppose the death penalty for murder?

    1. It's fine to kill the innocent but not the guilty.
      A strange world we live in.

    2. 407943+ up ticks,

      Afternoon S,
      The death penalty was dropped ( no pun intended ) with the Timothey Evans hanging, also in my book 1953
      Derek Bentley.

      Life means life,
      money cannot enter the equation.

      North Carolina man exonerated after 44 years of wrongful imprisonment, he could well have been hanged in some states.

      1. Christie admitted the wife's killing, not that of the child, just perhaps Evans was guilty of that murder.

      2. There is false imprisonment and there is uncertain evidence.

        Sometimes the evidence is overwhelming. In those circumstances, hang the scum.

        1. 407943+ up ticks,

          W,
          And sometimes the judged guilty are innocent.

          That trapdoor is pretty terminal.

    3. Probably all of them, as the "Left" are implacably anti real punishment for almost any crime – except of course "racism".

    1. Miliband is either completely stupid or a conniving assassin. Either way he needs to be removed from office, tied down and beaten with a wet rag every hour – day and night until he has learned to love his jailers.

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        Afternoon Per,

        Although I agree I do not believe it is ethical on the grounds he is criminally insane i’m sure.

          1. None. That’s what scares me! Apart from phone/computer, I’m pretty much independent from needing electricity. It’s other people I’m scared of!

            All these wars like Ukraine and Iran look like theatre, when every country’s electricity grid is just a sitting duck.

        1. Too quick. Use the handle first, on the extremities. Then go for the lower bones, then upper bones, pelvis, clavicles.

          Small cuts might be ok but once big whallop to the sternum and he gets away with it. He must be forced to admit his malice before he goes. He, the liar Lefty must be made to publicly say he is a liar and that 'climate change' is just a tax scam.

      5. He's a socialist. He doesn't care about the environment. He has a weapon, it's called 'climate change' and he is using it to achieve his plan of destroying the economy and impoverishing the nation with the intent of ever more state control.

      1. Didn't we also during lunatic lockdowns kbhoy? or am I just blaming BoJo needlessly..

    3. What, exactly, does GBE do? What's it for? It's not an energy supplier or producer. it doesn't sell energy. It doesn't regulate energy industry.

      What, aside from a massive, wasted budget, is it for?

      1. 407943+ up ticks,

        Afternoon W,

        Great British Energy
        https://www.gbe.gov.uk
        We are a publicly owned energy company. Our mission is clear: to power Britain with clean, secure, home-grown energy and to become a global leader in clean blah,blah,blah,also to give a wage to the criminally insane and those no one else will employ.

  68. Ah! We're having a rain shower. That's nice, but bad luck for Celebrating Cromford.

    1. "I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handles"

      Maybe that's the Devil's (Thieves Reeves') plan

    2. I'm a cold fish and even I'm uncomfortable in the heat..hope it breaks soon. Is this a Harries cartoon, Sue?

  70. Getting close..

    By the end of 2028–29, the NHS will account for half.. well 49% of all day-to-day public services spending.
    That's close to a quarter of a £trillion a year.

    What do we want?
    More funding!
    When do we want it?
    Now!

    2. We borrow 17bn a month – it'll go up next month – mostly to paay debt interest from last month. We spend more on debt interest – not the debt, the sodding interest! Than we do on education and defence combined.

      Now, with the moron Philipson's spiteful destruction of private schools and no more money for education (because it'd just be soaked by the Dept for morons) we're sliding catastrophically- – mostly thanks to the diversity dragging down the figures – the international tables.

  71. From the DT

    "Cuddly jumper wearing polymath Gyles Brandreth, 77, has barely any downtime. “There’s not a week, no exaggeration, when I’m not asked to be the voiceover on one of these funeral plan ads”, he says: “This is partly because I host on an annual basis the British Funeral Directors’ Awards – the big prize at the end of the night is the lifetime achievement award for ‘thinking outside the box’.”

      1. Folk look down on the adult industry but it's just another job. I will tell you now the least sexy place on earth is a porn set.

        1. 40 years ago I had a photography business as a sideline. Mostly weddings , portraits and industrial but I had a contract with a modelling agency to do their models portfolios – the most boring job I've ever had.

      2. Same Longford as the one who tried to get Myra Hindley released?

        She should have been topped for killing those children, BTW

      3. Same Longford as the one who tried to get Myra Hindley released?

        She should have been topped for killing those children, BTW

    1. I got a letter from them asking if I still wanted the surgery to remove my kidney stone. I said… yes.

      As having a solid carbide saw blade inside you is such fun.

  76. HRH Anne, the Princess Royal, is visiting the regiment of which she is Colonel-in-Chief and goes on a tour of the base hospital. She sees a patient in one bed and goes over to him, and he turns red and tries to hide beneath the bedspread; but the Princess is having none of this and says to the RSM escorting her "What is this patient's ailment, sergeant-major?" — "Haemorrhoids, ma'am!" says the RSM smartly.

    She turns to the patient and says "Don't be embarrassed, you silly man: in equestrian circles we know all about this condition, trust me. What is the treatment?" — "Wire brush and Dettol, ma'am!" says the sergeant-major.

    "I see," says HRH, and to the patient in the bed: "And what is your ambition, soldier?" — "To make a speedy recovery and return to the service of my Queen and country, ma'am!" says the soldier. "Very good, carry on," says the Princess.

    The next patient turns a still deeper shade of crimson and lies there paralysed with embarrassment. "What is this patient's ailment?" HRH asks the RSM. — "Syphilis, ma'am. Self-inflicted injury. No sympathy at all!"

    "I see," says HRH. "Well, now, single men in barracks and all that, as Kipling says. No use judging the man harshly. And what is the treatment?" — "Wire brush and Dettol, ma'am!" says the RSM.

    "And what is your ambition, soldier?" — "To make a speedy recovery and return to the service of my Queen and country, ma'am!" says the soldier. "Very good, carry on," says the Princess.

    The third patient looks less embarrassed, and the Princess Royal addresses him directly, "And what is the matter with you, soldier?" — "Tonsillitis, ma'am!" says the soldier.

    "How very distressing," says the Princess. "And the treatment is…" — "Wire brush and Dettol, ma'am!" says the RSM.

    "And what is your ambition, soldier?" — "To get to the wire brush and Dettol before those two dirty bastards, ma'am!" says the soldier.

    1. HRH was visiting a hospital ward and looked behind a screened off bed where there was a guy self gratifying. The embarrassed ward sister said he'd had a prostate op and he was just checking his tubes were clear. HRH then looked behind another screen where the same thing was happening – and the same reason. HRH then looked behind a third screen where she saw a nurse giving lip service to a guy and asked the sister why the difference- the sister replied – "he's in BUPA"

  77. We are flying in my friend’s Sling 4. It is a gorgeous little aircraft. I will try and post a photo later!

  78. G-SLNG for those in the know. Going to Tulverston. Now!

    Edit. Turweston!

  79. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/21/reform-set-to-win-next-election/

    I don't really know what to say, to be honest. I do not see reform offering anything different. Their policies are all over the place and badly thought through. There's not enough research. Yes, hiking the tax allowance is good, but the poorest spend all their money on essentials as it is. You want to get the middle class spending.

    Also, make stuff sodding cheaper! Remove the tax and regulatory burdens on people like Tesco and farmers and waitrose and Lewis'. Make them able to sell more stuff for lower prices. Scrap DIE, ESG, the nonsense over how many bloody wimmin you employ. Who cares? If it's a crappy old boys club it's not going to hire a woman just to fill a quota. Scrap taxes on share dealing and capital gains. Free up the market. If that means negotiating with the EU do that from a position of strength, not weakness.

    That's a lot of the problem, it's all about supply – what government can do. There's just not enough stimulating demand. The two are worked in combination. Lower prices -> more sales, more sales -> more employment. More employment -> more sales.

    It's not flippin' complicated (unless you are a mindless idiot working in the Treasury or BoE.

    1. Labour is a dead duck at the next GE. However, they may still get the most MPs as the opposition is splintered. What an awful thought.

  80. A depressing number if fields filled with solar panels. We are currently near Thame

    2. Soon to be even more. Planning permission being granted for new solar power stations all the time, at the cost of food production.

    2. A few darts from a rifle, the kind they use to fell animals, would do the job and not kill anyone if they got in the way.

    3. Exactly. No benefits for 12 months minimum. Christys went to Calais and spoke to some of the ones waiting to cross…they said Benefits and Housing main draw. It may have been in the same interview, but I think Christys had noticed male immigrants defecating in the street outside his London home.

      1. Why benefits after 12 months?
        If they arrive put them into uncomfortable barrack type accommodation until their seemingly mandatory asylum claim is validated.

        You would think that a US ICE sweep of illegals could result in a lot of deportation except for the fact that everyone has pending asylum claims and is in the .UK legally.

    4. We won't stop the boats until we test the swimming ability of a couple of boatload. Then it'll suddenly be over.

        1. The “lives” of these boat invaders are extremely unproductive on average …

          1. Once we go down that line of thinking, true though it might be, we are on a slippery slope.

      1. If all the universities close, as the writer predicts, then the peasants will be left with no education.
        My children attended an alternative school where the kids had a lot of freedom to study on their own. 95% of them wasted it and that’s what’ll happen with all the students too.
        Universities would have to get cleverer, get students in a room without AI helpers to learn interactively and get tested. But that will require too much work and moral courage, which academics don’t have.

      2. Turns out, per the DM, that parts of the perimeter fence were plain old garden variety (literally) wooden fences. Very different from the US approach to these things, where said vandals would have been in severe danger of being "M16'd".

      3. Only if they're white men. As there is little chance of that, we pass to the next option "Lessons will be Learned."

    1. It’s the only Dornier 27 (or 26 – didn’t get the reason) registered in the UK. Causing quite a scene!

  87. Enjoying the Test Match from Headingley (always brings back memories of matches I enjoyed there … 1964, v. Australia).

    June 1956 and Top of the UK charts is this, sung by a Yorkshireman, prominent supporter of Leeds United, just promoted to First Division …. team including the legendary John Charles ..

    https://youtu.be/Rq1nYV3-5lw?si=wzF0F6KBm04WIPtv

      1. Not at all Belle, I’ll have my accounts department contact you, or I would if I hadn’t nicked it myself.

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  91. RIP one of Rugby Union's greats

    Ian McLauchlan dead aged 83: British and Irish Lions legend known as 'Mighty Mouse' passes away as tributes pour in for 'indestructible' hero

    1. Respect. He's what we used to call 'in the trade' an 'oblong get' – very short and square and the sort of prop I hated to play against (he was loosehead, I was a tighthead).
      He played in eight Tests for the Lions in 1971 in NZ and 1974 (the Invincibles) in SA – won 5, drawn 2, lost 1 – an absolute legend and, by all accounts, a lovely bloke. RIP indeed…..

      1. I once made my own plane from a kit – a beautiful black Lancaster Bomber from Airfix…

        2. Yes, it was always a struggle to get the crew into the cockpit – and all the decals used to come off in the saucer of water and stick together (or was that just me?)…….

      2. I once made my own plane from a kit – a beautiful black Lancaster Bomber from Airfix…

      1. Yes it did. And the scar from HS2. The towns were ugly – Milton Keynes, Leighton Buzzard, Amersham – but the villages were beautiful and lots of old stately houses. Chequers and Stowe school amongst others.

    3. I reallly like the security of multiple engines. Which is why to this day, I would rather fly on a 747 rather than anything else. Plus of course, I have flown on them a lot – too many transatlantics to recall, plus long haul to down under and a memorable round the world trip when I was visiting our operations in Japan, HK, Singapore and India.

      1. …and both kids got to ride up front in the cockpit on multiple BA flights.

        p.s. eldest "kid" is now 56 years old. As they say, what the he!! happened?

    4. I reallly like the security of multiple engines. Which is why to this day, I would rather fly on a 747 rather than anything else. Plus of course, I have flown on them a lot – too many transatlantics to recall, plus long haul to down under and a memorable round the world trip when I was visiting our operations in Japan, HK, Singapore and India.

    2. Bet you muslim will say it's against their religion and get away with it. Whitey will be jailed if they refuse. That DNA will then be used by plod, insurance companies, actuaries. Not for the purpose you're lied to about.

  94. Latest news headlines,… the hottest day of the year sofar. Later in parts of the country the wettest day of the year….so far.
    My word it's all they have…..
    I suspect later towards the end of the bbc news bulletin they'll tell us about the weather.

    2. I'm probably an outlier here, but I actually have a little sympathy for the woman.

      Yes the buck should stop at her desk, but what the Hell were those responsible for day to day security playing at?
      Iran has threatened the UK, we should have been on high alert.
      Those people should have been identified immediately and shot.
      "No halt who goes there?"
      Bang, then ask questions.
      Imagine the damage that could have been done if "real" saboteurs had attained that degree of access.

      1. Surely she is responsible for the level of day to day security through Station Daily Orders? We can't afford the Peter Principle, particularly Bumps At the Front, when the security of our stations is at risk.

    2. Why, in the name of trousers are we not meeting them with a gunpoint and demanding they go back?

      They must all be removed, by force if they won't go willingly. This is absurd. It's an invasion.

      2. Starmer will do nothing about the illegals for a number of reasons.

        Firstly he is directed by his superiors such as the Bilderbergers and Trilateral Commission (of which he is a member) to accept the immigrants in accordance with the very Law that he himself enacted.

        Secondly he believes the promise that most are from Muslim countries and that those individuals will vote for him and Labour provided they are well fed and housed in comparatively luxurious accommodation given they previously lived in corrugated tin shacks and mud huts.

        Most seem to have missed the fact that our Labour government is utterly dependent on the Muslim vote for its electoral “success”. This in itself spells disaster for Great Britain, our culture and our customs.

        We need to be shot of Labour and shot of the Muslims. They do not represent our values nor our culture. They remain a distinct danger and threat to everything we hold dear.

      3. Starmer will do nothing about the illegals for a number of reasons.

        Firstly he is directed by his superiors such as the Bilderbergers and Trilateral Commission (of which he is a member) to accept the immigrants in accordance with the very Law that he himself enacted.

        Secondly he believes the promise that most are from Muslim countries and that those individuals will vote for him and Labour provided they are well fed and housed in comparatively luxurious accommodation given they previously lived in corrugated tin shacks and mud huts.

        Most seem to have missed the fact that our Labour government is utterly dependent on the Muslim vote for its electoral “success”. This in itself spells disaster for Great Britain, our culture and our customs.

        We need to be shot of Labour and shot of the Muslims. They do not represent our values nor our culture. They remain a distinct danger and threat to everything we hold dear.

      4. Starmer will do nothing about the illegals for a number of reasons.

        Firstly he is directed by his superiors such as the Bilderbergers and Trilateral Commission (of which he is a member) to accept the immigrants in accordance with the very Law that he himself enacted.

        Secondly he believes the promise that most are from Muslim countries and that those individuals will vote for him and Labour provided they are well fed and housed in comparatively luxurious accommodation given they previously lived in corrugated tin shacks and mud huts.

        Most seem to have missed the fact that our Labour government is utterly dependent on the Muslim vote for its electoral “success”. This in itself spells disaster for Great Britain, our culture and our customs.

        We need to be shot of Labour and shot of the Muslims. They do not represent our values nor our culture. They remain a distinct danger and threat to everything we hold dear.

    1. I prefer DB to most examples of such people.
      He seems far more genuine than the typical "A-lister"

    2. I do agree with you Rastus. I cannot stand the sight of that smug git and his tattoos He is clearly very wealthy but has no class whatever choosing to appear on advertisements for foreign lager and other self-promotional stuff.

      The very idea of our being required to address his ghastly wife as “Lady” induces in me a necessity to puke.

  100. Temp has shot up from 25c an hour ago to 28c.. clouds appearing , still , claggy , headachy weather !

    I actually love our weather though , the variations , because heat doesn't last for too long , doe it?

    My twin brother and his sister were born in 1958, poor mother suffered during the hot spell in June .. they were born on the 25th, my younger sister and I were sitting under an apple tree with pregnant mum , dad was working in London .

    A stag beetle flew out of the apple tree landing on top of mum as she relaxed in the shade .. She was shocked as were we, because it clattered around us in flight , then crash landed .. I was 11 years old and my sister 7 years ..

    My mother then started to have labour pains .. and then all hell broke loose !

    1. We're a very humid 36 at the moment.
      Hares out and about in the garden but no stag beetles.
      We do get them, but not frequently.

  101. Temp has shot up from 25c an hour ago to 28c.. clouds appearing , still , claggy , headachy weather !

    I actually love our weather though , the variations , because heat doesn't last for too long , doe it?

    My twin brother and his sister were born in 1958, poor mother suffered during the hot spell in June .. they were born on the 25th, my younger sister and I were sitting under an apple tree with pregnant mum , dad was working in London .

    A stag beetle flew out of the apple tree landing on top of mum as she relaxed in the shade .. She was shocked as were we, because it clattered around us in flight , then crash landed .. I was 11 years old and my sister 7 years ..

    My mother then started to have labour pains .. and then all hell broke loose !

  102. In 1980 in HMS Sultan as a very naïve, not too bright baby stoker when mustering for night guard duty for the first time, I was issued with a 'night stick', a 20" (ish) oak truncheon and a tin hat (we hadn't got Kevlar at that time), painted red.
    On asking the question:
    "What do I do with this P.O.?", I was told:
    "Son, (he was a good 10 years older than me) if you see someone coming over the fence, twat the cunt with it."
    Things have clearly changed in the intervening 45 years.

        1. When he moved to Melton Mowbray – he meant to paint the town red, but was sloppy about it.

      2. I remember those down the docks in Liverpool mainly carrying sacks of coal in the early 50's

  103. Temps as forecast on Thur. lower than foecast yesterday and today. Not very good trying to scare people.

    Its a summer hot day or two. and nothing more.

    1. True, but it is quite toasty. I'd quite like it a bit cooler. Supposed to be tomorrow.

    1. I did enjoy the report that he got punched out in the street outside a pub and called it homophobia. He didn't get punched in the face because he is gay. He got punched in the face because he is a nasty Leftie little shit.

    3. Never figured out how this little no mark got so much air time. Obnoxious pos.

      1. Lazy broadcasters. Jones in on a media spectrum of "rent a quote" faces, like Alibhai-Brown, Ash Sarkar, Narinder Kaur and others. They can be relied on to appear (for a fee, natch) and spout predictable garbage for the audiences. They have no mandate, they are just convenient to, as I say, lazy broadcasters. If they disappeared, nobody would give a damn.

  106. Owen Jones is an absolute bullying bastard.
    He abuses his platforms and claims victimhood left left and left; his left right and centre.
    He's a perfect example of everything that is wrong with the illiberal left.

    1. Lefties are hypocrites by default. They lie habitually, desperate to re-write their own history because it's so ghastly.

    1. Tee hee. That reminds me of a wonderful story I read in the newspapers years ago about a gathering of world bigwigs organised by the then Russian President, designed to show other world leaders the rugged machismo of Russian life. They were billeted in traditional log cabins under the tree-line, caroused at night and cycled up to the forests in the early mornings to hunt bears. After two days, no bears had appeared and, in Russki desperation, a bear was secretly procured from a travelling circus and released into the woods the next night.

      As the guests stacked their bicycles against a tree and began to assemble their rifles, a huge bear walked into the clearing, grabbed one of the bicycles, and cycled off down the hill.

    2. That reminds me of the tale where the Lone Ranger and Tonto are riding a trail. Tonto dismounts and places the side of his head to the ground to listen for the sound of any pursuers. Tonto announces “Buffalo come”.

      The Lone Ranger asks Tonto how he knows to which Tonto replies “sticky face”.

  108. Much as I despise OJ, I would like to see the whole of the second part where he appears to be denying the scandal.
    It appears to have been selectively edited.

    1. If you were in the bar while he was spouting off i expect you would have wanted to punch him too.

        1. I am not a violent person. I would have just given him a withering look. Then told my butch friends how rude he had been to me and then say..'leave 'im…e' ain't worth it !'.
          Shame they are all deaf.

      2. Too true.
        But I don't get into fights, I was taught that if you do, make sure that at least one of the attackers never, ever forgets you.

    2. Yes, sos, I agree. We should not resort to the same lying tactics that they use. Revolting little tick though he is.

  109. She always is :-D….had a bit of a rough time lately, hope she’s back on form asap.

  112. Well the rain didn't last long, only about half an hour of moderate precipitation.
    Not done a great deal today other than a bit of pottering.
    Got a bit too hot so had a cold bath.
    Nasty attack of reflux after dinner so will be getting in touch with the Doctor's to get a repeat of the trial prescription I was given a couple of month ago.

    1. Esomeprazole? If you take it for any length of time, make sure you take a magnesium supplement. It can leach magnesium from your bones and you end up with breaks.

    1. With our spineless elite, the integration will all be in the other direction.

      1. Why bother with English lessons at all?
        They'll be happier with Bengali, they'll hovel down in their community, and seldom venture outside it.

    2. I have recently had to collect our youngest grandson up from his school. His teacher had been ill and replaced with another this one in her part 'battle dress'.
      But the school is C of E.
      The plot hasn't been lost, it's just been thickened.

  114. Evening, all. Even muggier today than yesterday. Hot and sticky but only the occasional sunny period. We had rain overnight, but it doesn't seem to have had a cooling effect. I took the dogs out early. Very small fields at Bangor this evening – even so, I could only manage two winners (I didn't have a runner; the one at Mkt Rasen yesterday was withdrawn because the ground was too firm and the one at Redcar could only finish 9th). Redcar is a strange racecourse; to get to it you have to drive through the cemetery!

    I'm afraid I don't think the Assisted Dying Bill stems from good intentions at all; I think it's a money saving exercise. Rather than invest in good palliative care they offer death. How low have we sunk in this country when life is held so cheap?

    1. We have inadvertently elected a death cult. No-one wanted this, but we allowed it to happen in response to the previous lying toads. Here we are.

      2. With a few notable exceptions, opo (thinking Habib, Lowe)… suspect they're all the same. Doesn't really matter, CS our real and permanent government.

    2. Well said, Conway. Have to say, always calmed by walking through a cemetery. Too hot today for dog. Still looking for another. Some will still have the good palliative care, we can be sure of that, Labour grandees for example.

      1. I'm sure there's one out there waiting to find you. Have you considered contacting the Cinnamon Trust? They take on dogs when their owners die if they are profiled. Someone has to care for them. I have willed my dogs along with my other goods to my heir (who looks after them now while I'm still going).

    3. In countries where a lot of our immigrants originate from, life is held more cheaply than here. Our country is now reflecting and emulating these shithole places.
      Edited.

    5. Especially as hospices are hard hit by the various tax changes and will have to cut back on the services they provide.

  115. I disagree.
    It might be interesting to see the “standing orders”, but it still boils down to the front line.
    If the people charged with the day to day don’t do their job the orders become irrelevant.

    1. But if the orders are for a "light touch" then they would be doing their job as ordered. Don't expect thinking!

  116. I very much doubt that any orders have that degree of subtlety.
    The buck stops with her, but the cretins at the front are the ones who should really be carrying the can.

    1. ….especially after the lessons delivered by Ukraine (et al) disabling a goodly part of the RU Air Force with drones..

      1. Imagine if those people had gone in, laid “homing beacons” and left without making “the noise”?

    2. ….especially after the lessons delivered by Ukraine (et al) disabling a goodly part of the RU Air Force with drones..

  117. Rule no 7 – Disregard Rule no 6
    Rule no 8 – There is no Rule no 8
    Rule no 9 – No Pooftahs!

    1. ECHR is one reason, wibbling. Another – the ones who look away when they see the boats. Another – the ones who welcome them, and allow them to stay. And then we have the ones who report the numbers (eg GBN) but have no solution/s. All in all, we don't seem to have a say, you and I and thousands upon thousands of other Brits. I suspect the numbers are far higher than we know, hidden away in various dwellings especially in Northern England.

  119. Thanks for kind thoughts, Conway…will look out for the Cinnamon Trust (great name). I’d be happy to take an older dog, the one left is miserable, hot weather may be part of it but had to persuade her to eat today (unknown before). Good tip to will them, confess hadn’t addressed that issue, will have a think about that xx

    2. I thought these people had Mosques in which to kneel and stick their bums in the air. I find it an effrontery that the wretched ignoramuses should pollute an English park with their obnoxious exhibitionism.

    3. We're losing the war by extreme MSMism. Islam is ensconced in enclaves that are already too large to be brushed aside. They're winning with the connivance of recent and current governments.

      1. 408011+ up ticks,

        Morning Mo,
        I got a feeling there is a trail of gunpowder leading from the White House to the ex capital city, london, about to be ignited.

        We witness a pro Iranian gathering in the city yesterday, never has ” The enemy within” been so apt.

      2. 408011+ up ticks,

        Mo,

        The infestation was given boost via the voting stations since "miranda" opened the gates.

  124. Goodnight, all. Up early tomorrow for church – it seems to come round quickly! This time last week I was on the ferry about to dock in Dover.

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