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An unuseful first
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Where's me bucket !
You'd like Tipping Point. It's been on for 12 years now and still going strong. It's an ideal game show after coming back from the pub.
Or is that "tippling point"?
Isn’t that the Osman giant bloke? Seen him on HIGNFY. Quite funny in a dry droll way.
Richard Osman? I think he prefers something a bit more challenging for 'ze leetle grey cells'. No, it's hosted by Ben Shepherd. He's perfectly bland for Tipping Point when all that one's fuzzy brain can cope with after a boozy session is the tension of waiting for discs to be pushed over a ledge.
DI don't like him much. Seems too pleased with himself always. And his quiz on Beeb2 at teatime – aargh.
If he says "Shall we?"once more, as in "Let's start the next round shall we?" I'll need a new TV as I'll have thrown something at it.
Why is the election poster with the refuse bin for the nation yellow, and the flashy casino alternative red and blue?
More project fear. Lots of sun screen lotions don't work as promised. The makers of these products dispute this.
Stay home and cower in your house with the curtains drawn.
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In the frozen canadian wasteland, it hasn't been that cold for about a week now.
Blood will boil. Don't you realise this will be the hottest June ever!
Hurrah ! I can finally shed me Damart.
Did you sew yourself into it last October?
Alcohol boils at 70C. A way to go yet.
26 is no heatwave! Its a nice day.
Perfect temperature for me. It’s why i holiday in the Med Spring and Autumn. What sort of idiot goes there in 40 degree temps and then goes for a walk in the mid day sun?
Err…. blushes, looks down and shuffles feet…
I lived on the outskirts of Estepona on the Costa del Sol for five years and in one mid-summer, I recorded a temp of 44°c.
TV doctors?
How will these journalists cope when they go to Hell?
Richard Kemp has seen active service in some bad places, has campaigned against the prosecution of veterans, is a friend of Israel and supported leaving the EU. However, here he's missed the target by a mile for apparently thinking the history of Putin's invasion began in 2014 with the seizing of Crimea.
A real shame, Kemp usually stand up for the truth. In this case he is sadly mistaken. Give an officer a compass and he is almost guaranteed to pick the wrong direction if given a free choice.
Morning everyone.
Good Morning All.A little rain, 14C cloudy.
Good Morning, all
Dribbling rain here
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If only we could say he'd bought the farm.
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What's the difference? They are both brainless carpetbaggers.
https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1804271596280123398
https://x.com/alexharmstrong/status/1804206383555858497
The West provoked Russian invasion of Ukraine, claims Farage. 22 June 2024
Mr Farage was asked why he had “blamed the West” for Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.
He said: “Right, I’ll tell you what you don’t know, I stood up in the European Parliament in 2014 and I said, and I quote, ‘there will be a war in Ukraine’.
“Why did I say that? It was obvious to me that the ever-eastward expansion of Nato and the European Union was giving this man a reason to his Russian people to say, ‘they’re coming for us again’ and to go to war.”
This is all perfectly true of course. The question is, why has Farage chosen to say it in the middle of a General Election? He should have kept his mouth closed until it was over. He has given ammunition to the opposition.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/06/21/west-provoked-russian-invasion-ukraine-nigel-farage-reform/
Because he was asked.i
Morning Johnny. He could have waffled as any other of the "leaders" would have done when faced with a difficult question. On the other hand the comments BTL are massively in support, the opposite of the usual trolled arrangement.
But he tells it like it it is. very rare.
It would have been a deliberate ploy. The turdfaced Robinson knew Farage would speak the truth, which in the current fight for votes would upset the lefties and ditherers and give the press another excuse to attack Reform:
https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c8vv3vgngd0o
It won’t work
Ben Wallace is speaking well on this topic, and the whole Ukraine situation is more complex than Farage appreciates, as I myself laid out here a few days ago.
I must say though that Farage is entitled to his opinion, and has every right to speak his mind, however right or wrong, especially during an election campaign where the electorate is the jury. Far more dangerous than Farage's opinions is the will to suppress him, as if it were some great crime to pass comment that has not been commanded by the Consensus.
Yes, prodding the bear is not a sensible thing to do, but then Russia is quite capable of prodding the defences of its neighbours for weaknesses it can exploit. This is normal diplomatic behaviour and an aspect of Realpolitik that should not faze Putin any more than anyone else. The response is not to be so weak that potential foes might try it on.
What neither Farage nor Putin's apologists understand is that the closer the EU gets to Russia, the closer Russia gets to the EU. Putin was catastrophically idiotic by barging in with heavy artillery, spooking the neutrals such as Finland and Sweden and bringing in America, who were losing interest in Europe. His much more effective strategy was making Germany dependent on Russian energy via Nordstream, on being the peacemaker in the Middle East against an extremely violent and aggressive Islamic foe, and on appealing to social conservatives in Central Europe tackling woke lunacies further West, and realigning the EU on Vienna and Budapest rather than Brussels and Paris. If Putin had played Ukraine right, he would have used it to draw the whole EU into a force sympathetic to Russia, first commercially, and then even militarily if America could no longer be relied on to tackle the Islamists and the Woke.
Someone has dragged up an old tweet and Nigel was asked whether he still held that opinion. Of course, Auntie is delighted that they have a bone on which to chew and have elevated the story to the top line.
Good morrow, gentlefolk. Todays (recycled) story.
Dead Beat
It's spring and the bear comes out of his cave.
His knees are wobbling and he's a total wreck.
He's all skin and bones with big circles under his eyes.
So his brother looks at him and says: "You look awful! Didn't you hibernate all winter like you were supposed to?"
To which the bear replies: Hibernate?!Holy shit! I thought you said masturbate!"
Good one, Tom!
Morning!
'Morning.and thank you, Paul.
https://x.com/HerdImmunity12/status/1804237338983223699
Makes interesting reading. Thanks for posting that, Johnny.
Good Morning all, cold and clear today.
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388769+up ticks,
Morning Each,
Fact or fiction,
I tend to err more towards it being factual, especially in regards to the political department,
As I suggested in a prior post if we ever get a grip on reigning in
the politico's, as it seems unlikely at the moment with the reshuffle of ALL highly dubious components set to take place,
ALL must pass muster on the PEOPLES covid 19 jab plus booster.
https://x.com/SandraWeeden/status/1804379958174761246
388769+ up ticks,
O2O,
I do believe that those current political / pharmaceutical hierarchy must receive the peoples jab, their own creation, to have any credibility and stand as candidates in a General Election.
Would it be a Cambridgeshire Smith?
388769+ up ticks,
Morning Anne,
I don’t believe so, these Smiths are spelt with a double f.
Morning, all Y'all. Ssunny. Was beautiful last "night" – cloudless, still, silent, bright.
Many happy returns for tomorrow, Paul.
Thanks, Conway. 🙂
Hope you’re having a good day.
Morning, all Y'all. Ssunny. Was beautiful last "night" – cloudless, still, silent, bright.
Good Morning Folks,
Cloudy start here.
11°c and supposedly 'Sunny'!
It ain't.
Michael Gove is wrong about why voters lost faith in the Conservatives
Gove is certainly one of the reasons why voters lost faith in the Conservatives.
http://www.faceless.co.za/r…
Good morning folks. The Queen of Sheba. Arrived yesterday evening. I’m just hoping her charioteers will arrive today and start clearing the canal!
Hope you all have a good day!
I wouldn’t use private healthcare even if my children were ill, Starmer says. 22 June 2024.
Sir Keir Starmer has said that he would not use private healthcare even if his children were ill.
The Labour Party leader said he would not go private even in a case of chronic illness because the NHS is “absolutely the best” at treating acute health problems.
Sir Keir has said repeatedly during the election campaign that he would always choose to use the NHS.
Then he’s not fit to be a father let alone a Prime Minister.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/06/21/general-election-latest-sunak-starmer-farage/
Millionnaire politician is prepared to let his children die.
Plus those of poorer people who have been queue jumped by his rich kids.
It is one thing to sell your own grandmother – but a bit extreme to sell your wife and children!
Not using private healthcare for his children does not bode well for his Jewish wife and practising Jewish children when Starmer capitulates completely to Islam.
Why is his wife even married to him?
'Sir Keir has said repeatedly during the election campaign that he would always choose to use the NHS'.
That fucking wanker might change his mind if he was sitting on a plastic chair in A & E for 24 hours. But that would never happen would it…
They are so thoroughly detached from reality they are not fit to run a whelk stall.
When i go to vote i will take a doggie poop bag with me and smear it over the ballot paper. Fold into a nice origami parcel and poop it in the box.
He'd be rushed to the front of the queue anyway, so no difference. As well he knows.
38876 up ticks,
Currently when it is fully realised that voting for what is on offer is, to my mind, a fools opium.
Things in reality have taken on a far more evil, sinister aspect leaving the peoples only two parties of real choice, them being, RIGHT or WRONG, ALL ending in loss and tears.
https://x.com/SandraWeeden/status/1804376416974217667
as they say.. If "bad" has failed you.. why vote for "worse"?
388769+ up ticks,
Morning KB,
Good post,” failed the peoples” time after time after time.
Good morning, all. Overcast with a threat of showers later.
The USA is gearing up to have the draft i.e. conscription mandates reinforced. There is a problem in that upwards of 60% of the population eligible for the draft have chronic health problems that would exclude them from being drafted. Evidence?
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Despite the probable shortage of fit draftees the sabre rattlers, including the UK, continue their machinations, including the nuclear threat.
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Meanwhile back on the farm:
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The "virus" isn't out and about but we'll authorise a "scientists think would be protective" medication based on studies (modelling?), anyway. It isn't that these people are refusing to learn the lessons of the last four years, they cannot fail to know the dangers of these "vaccines", they are wilfully ignoring the dangers to follow a narrative. Either these people are stupid beyond measure or evil, maybe both.
Jefferey Jaxen's report from this week's The Highwire
This is an interesting watch: Malaysian flight 17 shootdown a decade ago, and it's link to the war in Ukraine.
https://youtu.be/_chpEI0_6Xk?si=vAO_vUo3wU3X1jTF
Bloody hell Paul. You didn't warn me that the narrator of that video was a mincing trannie!
I was somewhat taken aback, as well. On reflection, you could hear it in the voice.
I was suspicious when a”proud Newcastle lad” kept spouting vapid Yankisms, like “airplane”.
’Morning all! Beautiful sunny day here – perfect for a visit to the Royal Highland Show! Our daughter and SiL have been there since Thursday with their sheepies and have won lots of lovely rosettes! We were looking after two of the grandchildren yesterday while Mummy took the baby to the show. Today the other daughter and the twins are going and we’re all meeting up! I may be some time!
'Morning, Pet.
Mind them cabers, though but!😘
I’m more worried about rampaging Simmentals and raging Clydesdales! 💕
Watch out for hot cross haggi.
They can't stand the heat.
Boiling mad, they get!
Aye, mind yer butt when they toss 'em.
Wow…just wow !
It just never stops with clan MacFarlane does it !
Enjoy !
Nope! Keeps us young…or something! 😵💫
Makes you appreciate the dull and mundane more. :@)
Usual nonsense about the Empire Windrush on Toady. We still had rationing in 1948, FFS!
We had rationing until 1954.
All those lining the streets for EIIR's coronation still had books of coupons.
Yes, JBF, I remember rationing and ration books.
I remember my brother ( 3 years older) playing grocers and cutting up the families ration books!
I remember my brother ( 3 years older) playing grocers and cutting up the families ration books!
I remember it well, running to the sweetie shop with my brother, my coupons and a threepenny bit.
Well I arrived in 1949 and remember the rationing…
You're a year younger than I am and I well remember the end of rationing.
According to the BBC “today, Sir Keir Starmer will be out in London to unveil his party's plans to expedite payments for the thousands of victims of the Windrush scandal”. What was/is “the scandal” and why were there “victims” and of what?
Under the Labour government The British Nationality Act 1948, giving the status of citizenship of the United Kingdom and Colonies to all British subjects connected with the United Kingdom or a British colony. Prior to 1962, the UK had no immigration control for CUKCs, who could settle indefinitely in the UK without restrictions. Between 1948 and 1970, nearly half a million people moved from the Caribbean to Britain. 83 of them were deported, probably because they came before the act came into affect, but they and 19,000 descendants claimed compensation.
Governments should be disallowed from throwing our money at their pet ideological projects. We will be paying for this and we don't even get a say. Labour winning by default is not democracy.
You make an excellent point. This could cost a great deal but, far more worrying, set a precedent for future compensations.
Not that many incomers contribute as much as they take out.
Few know much or care about my industry, commercial shipping, but they should as it carries well over 80% of world trade. And it is feeling abandoned. The World Shipping Council has expressed exasperation at the lack of action taken to stop Houthi attacks on shipping. Since November there have been over 70 attacks and two ships have been sunk. Several seamen have been killed. All that self-promoting crack from politicians like Biden was just cack. They are doing nothing, or very little. Ships are making the long trek around Africa, pushing up costs.
You'd think the Egyptians, out of self-interest at losing Suez Canal income, would do something about it.
You'd think the Environmental lobby would say something about it, what with shipping being responsible for lots of oil consumption.
Greenpeace did express concern about the environmental consequences of certain cargoes spilling into the Red Sea from sunken vessels, but no mention was made of the increased fuel consumption of rerouting cargo vessels via South Africa.
https://www.greenpeace.org/mena/en/sinking-of-the-rubymar-ship/
Just stop all trade!
Don't spray orange paint just paint it black!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4irXQhgMqg
Good Moaning.
I have been saying this for years.
The ideal BP reading for a 75 year old is not the same as for a 25 year old. All too much prescribing of drugs is @rse covering. (Add deliberate scare tactics over scamdemics.)
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/are-we-being-fleeced-by-big-pharmas-high-blood-pressure-drug-pushers/
God moaning
I was pissing by the door when i heard two shats………..
What would you say was a reasonable BP read for someone like me? I drink a lot. I smoke a lot. I don't take any exercise. I am 60. Not over weight. But i have great hair.
Use your common sense.
Don't be intimidated by GPs.
I have learned a few tricks.
GP's are not the same breed from my youth. One i saw not long ago was wearing crocs. That's fine. I know lots of medical types do. His were just dangling from his toes. He also had google open on his screen.
Not sure he was even noticed the contempt in my tone.
He had three months previously sent me for tests. The prescription was to be based on the results.
No follow up so i made an official complaint to the surgery.
I got the standard response which was it was somehow all my fault.
I did get an appointment with the Doctor though.
Same spotty little git.
He had obviously been ordered by the Practice manager to see me.
One would think he might…just might…have looked at my notes.
Clearly a grown up needed to take charge so i spelt it out for him in a calm measured way.
I now understand the phrase…brook no argument. I doubt he does.
And a sparkly jacket, pet! Don’t forget that!
Not Summer attire though. So i bought myself something bright and cheerful…Flowery pants !
Waddya think…
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I think they're trousers.
Knickers !
Moi?? 😉🤣🤣
Very restrained…..🙄
A chum of mine who is a golfer said someone wearing pants like that and is crap at golf is known as a prize dick.
Finally…recognition…I have arrived !
Hair today, gone tomorrow…. but it will have been fun.
I really don't know what to make of either of the figure charts. Assuming the numbers continue an upward trajectory by age, by those age related measures my BP is incredibly low. Even at the GP I tend to be 110 over 70 when I go in.
I was regularly 100/110 over 60/70 with a resting heart rate of low 50's when doing my cardio rehab and the staff were very happy.
At the end of my half hour hooked up to the monitors on the velo I was up to 130/140 over 90/100 and after warm down and five minutes rest back to 110 over 70 and pulse mid 60's.
Even on the final day "bust a gut" session I was 140/100 which dropped back quickly to 110/70 and pulse to low 60's
But what medication do you take? And were your BP and heart rate normal before you had your MI?
A complete pharmacy worth now, but none before. As they don't appear to be doing any harm, so I do as I'm prescribed.
My readings haven't changed significantly. The pulse is now slightly lower, but only very slightly, BP the same then as now.
I had been regarded as exceptionally fit for my age.
One reason why my doctor was so very surprised by my heart attack was no prior indications, it came completely out of blue during a coughing fit.
It isn't stated, but I get the feeling the Covid jabs are no longer trusted.
My OH is now on a whole lot of meds since his triple by-pass in Dec 22. Prior to his collapse in October that year he was on the three-monthly antigen jab for prostate cancer but nothing more than that and was very fit and active. Blood pressure always on the low side. Never overweight. He's ok now but I wonder what all the meds are doing. He's 81.
I wonder if your coughing fit was the precursor or the cause of the heart attack?
I won't be having any more jabs for anything if I can help it. At almost 76 I take no meds and keep away from the surgery. I had two AZ jabs for covid and he had three Pfizer ones.
The cough was that phlegmy blighter doing the rounds that arrived well before Christmas, and I think it was certainly a contributory factor. Initially I thought all I had done was pulled an internal muscle, which if one thinks about it was what I did, in effect.
Indeed. I have been on Ramipril for many years with a blood pressure up to 140/90. Have just done a set of readings for our surgery as requested and seemed to be a good time, 125/72. But TCW is right, the doctors try and push you on satins at the slightest opportunity. When I went for heart checks last year I was told that just by being on Ramipril I had to have blood thinners (edoxaban) to reduce my risk of a stroke. When I looked at the statins risks it was something like reducing my risk of a stroke from 20% to 10%, at 75 I think I can live with that sort of risk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OZrNDtRltg
Daydreaming of summers when I was young!
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=wvUQcnfwUUM
Nigel Farage speaks the truth and the BBC goes into overdrive giving platforms to reams of liars complicit in the EU/NATO attempt to expand its influence in Ukraine – and potentially install nuclear missiles on the Russian border. Tens of thousands of deaths and billions of dollars worth of profit from the sale of arms and ammunition and the people responsible blame a British patriot for spreading truth and verisimilitude amongst the Left-wing Loons in Big Brother Centre.
Cuba. Russian missiles. Castro. Parallel.
Why was it acceptable for the US to feel threatened and react but not for Russia to feel threatened?
I believe that at the time the USA was proposing to station nukes in Turkey, which was why Cuba arose as a tit-for-tat.
Both sides withdrew, but one doesn't hear about the Turkish bit to anything like the same extent.
The USA already had nuclear missiles in Turkey:
Conflict resolved diplomatically
Publicized removal of Soviet nuclear missiles from Cuba
Non-publicized removal of American nuclear missiles from Turkey and Italy
Agreement with the Soviet Union that the United States would never invade Cuba without direct provocation
Creation of a nuclear hotline between the United States and the Soviet Union.
Parties involved in the crisis
Soviet Union Cuba
United States Italy Turkey Venezuela
"Publicized removal of Soviet nuclear missiles from Cuba
Non-publicized removal of American nuclear missiles from Turkey and Italy"
That squares with my recollection, Ped.
I forgot they had been there since '61.
Morning Ped. I think people are pretty clear in general over who is blaming whom. Farage doesn't have a history of political fibbing in his locker is all they need to know, even if the powers that be are trying their best to make the whole Russia / Ukraine thing as foggy as they can to the plebs. I don't think they believe Putin is out to "de-Nazify" Ukraine any more than they think Biden is out to "defend the West".
This debate needs to be played out in full, because by the end of it I believe what both our major 'Libs' have to say will seem pretty hollow.
Yes, the uni-party has rather a lot of form in duping the electorate.
Good morning all.
A warm start to the day with a tad over 11½°C on the Yard Thermometer and a bright, breezy but currently dry overcast.
Reposting a link, was Nigel wrong?
Watch this as Jeffrey Sachs explains to Piers Morgan how the West provoked Russia.
https://x.com/ricwe123/status/1803806214679056386
Morning Bob, blue skies up here – should be a good day
The MSM and the Conservative Party are using the truth about the causes of the war in the Ukraine which Nigel Farage is airing as a stick with which to beat him.
And why did Biden and Johnson act as provocateurs to persuade the corrupt and megalomaniac Zelensky not to engage in the talks that had been arranged? The situation could have been resolved but the West seemed to be more eager on armed conflict than Russia.
Don't poke the bear! Many of us here were, up to a point, sympathetic to the Russians whom the West was provoking until Putin launched his "invasion".
Zelenskyy is without doubt a Jewish clown, and the closest Western equivalent I can think of is Sacha Baron Cohen. He may well be corrupt, but then who isn't in that part of the world? I do not think he is a megalomanic in the way that Putin is. He has rather been thrust into the role of war leader, and is having to deal with it using his limited talents, which are largely in show business.
Nor do I think the West is particularly eager to bury its huge and expanding national debts in the battlefields of the Donbas. I can think of better ways of spending money.
" He has rather been thrust into the role of war leader, "
I agree – but who was doing the thrusting and why?
"Nor do I think the West is particularly eager to bury its huge and expanding national debts in the battlefields of the Donbas. I can think of better ways of spending money."
Again I agree that I can think of better ways of spending money – but it is tax payers' money rather than the PTB's own money and the more ground that can be flattened the easier it will be to "build back better"! Doubtless Gates, Soros and the WEF are all in favour of the war!
Putin did the thrusting. Who else invaded Ukraine? Ukraine did not invade Russia.
The logic applied to Israeli clearance of Gaza to make living space for redeveloping this plum Mediterranean site hardly applies to the destruction wreaked on Ukraine, unless it suggested that Ukraine is as self-combustible as a UN humanitarian vehicle.
No doubt arms dealers, like lawyers, will make money out of any conflict, and the more they can stir things up, the more they like it. It is the duty of Government to resist such little earners and have more regard for citizen outsiders not in on the scam. Easier said that done though, since those PTB control the media and finance political campaigning, and with it direct public opinion. If that were not so, very more Independents would get elected.
How did Starmer get this overwhelming lead in the polls?
If Putin hadn't acted Russia's most important naval base would have been occupied by now and the Yanks would have nuclear weapons stationed in the Donbass. Politics is knowing when to to act in the interest of one's country – Business is knowing when to act in the interest of rich men's bank accounts, irrespective of the consequences.
I don’t think so.
Sevastopol was a nice little earner for Ukraine for decades, with special energy concessions from Russia, which Ukraine then sold on to the Germans for a profit. Even if Russia welshed on the deal by organising direct trading with Germany, I doubt Ukraine had the means or the global support to evict the Russians from Sevastopol.
As for the Americans, maybe under the Democrats they might have pushed out an expeditionary force into the Black Sea to threaten Russia. Trump already made his isolationist position clear, and the Republicans had bigger fish to fry, such as sorting out the Southern border, neutralising the threat from militant Islam, and there is the serious commercial and possibly military challenge from China. Why bother with a faraway country with a similar GDP to Italy? The U.S. does have a closer sea border in the Barents Sea, but even though Ms Palin could claim she could see Russia on a fine day, I doubt even gun-toting America thought at taking a pop or two at any stray Russian, just for the hell of it.
We seem to be talking at cross purposes.
I was referring to Zelensky going to war because of the influence of Johnson and Biden.
Whilst Biden has business interests there, I rather think it was the other way round, and the only reason Zelenskyy went to war was because the country he was president of was invaded. I don’t think he had much choice in the matter.
Arms and armaments are big business. Then there's the reconstruction afterwards.
Ain’t that the truth
I think he's right.
I don't think Mr Sachs account of events is correct. Yanukovych pulled out of the EU deal after Russia 'intervention' and that provoked the violent protests.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13557583/Nigel-Farage-blasted-echoing-Putins-vile-justification-Ukraine.html
Nigel Farage is blasted for ‘echoing Putin’s vile justification’ for Ukraine conflict: Critic says ‘every vote for Farage is celebrated in Moscow’ after Reform leader’s comment that ‘we provoked this war’
The amazing thing is that Piers let Jeffrey speak for over five minutes without interrupting him. Never would happen on the bbc.
Bingo – Another tripo:
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Edison (Sue) and BB2
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STARE, STORY etc.
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I don't have a fixed one. I just try something different every day.
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DNA Testing Kits
Hi Eddy, I'm replying to your appeal yesterday – sorry it's a day late.
I have been investigating my family tree for 45 years and there are over 1,500 relatives on my tree, reaching back to the late 1400s. I have used both MyHeritage and Ancestry DNA kits. Ancestry is the most comprehensive of all the firms and has the biggest DNA database but is much stronger on American members. MyHeritage is stronger on European relatives.
Initially I received strong ‘hits’ from a few relatives who I already knew about. But especially from Ancestry there has been a steady stream of very weak DNA Associations, allegedly from 3rd or 4th Cousins, but of course, ONLY FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR DNA. On the plus side, these are people who are probably building family trees which may have members you don’t know about. But go back more than two generations and it is too late to get DNA records.
On the minus side there are dozens of email notification arriving in your inbox every week. After a few months I gave up on tracking down these links as the relationships are so remote. Also, you may find unique photographs of relatives that you have posted on your own family tree turning up on other folks’ family trees because they have swiped them from yours via Ancestry or MyHeritage.
It is quite hard to keep your family tree private if you want other distant relatives to offer their information. An old University friend in California has become the Marin County expert on DNA matching and gave me a one hour seminar on how to narrow things down, while I was in San Rafael last September, but I haven't used his methods (yet).
Another thing to worry about is that by submitting YOUR DNA to an American firm, you never know what is going to happen in the future to it or its data. Worth thinking about if you visit USA at all frequently.
Don't know if this helps. RC.
Submit your DNA – you might be cloned!
The horror! Two of me! AAA!
Why stop at two? Build your own army.
I've done family history for many years and found quite a few relatives I didn't know before.
I also get the Lost Cousins newsletter and he's very keen on dna checks. I decided not to go down that route and don't regret it. Like vaccination, once done it can't be undone.
I also had chunks of my family tree copied by someone on Genes Reunited so I keep all my info private since then.
Hi Ndovu,
I too have used Lost Cousins since its inception. Its records are based on the 1881 UK Census, which is free to search and (almost) 100% reliable.
My Mother-in-Law was born in 1908 and the manuscript record of her entry in the 1911 Census shows 3y (3 years old). But the transcribers took this as 31 yrs and so her Year of Birth got shoved back to 1880, a little before her own mother was born. I attempted to get it corrected but was told that there was insufficient evidence, so the General Record Office would not amend it. So do NOT trust 100%.
You do need to look at the manuscripts and not trust the transcriptions as they are very often wrong. I have sent up numerous corrections to Find my Past but I don’t know if they made any changes.
And some people were not recorded – eg my Gt grandmother – the first record of her was in 1841 as 3 years old. She reduced her age on each census as a lot of people did. But I do know she was born on 11th September from a little birthday book given to my mother. Also her baptism in April 1839. These three clues set her birth date as 11.09.1838.
Thanks RC I'll look into both, it's interesting to know that others have used the services. And results noted.
Many thanks.
Jordan Petersen banned from Twitter due to tweeting what others are thinking.
https://youtu.be/FXr51usWW68?si=wDHzYW85SaCBRzb3
I thought that Twitter, now X, has been more open to differing opinions since Elon Musk acquired control.
Yup, this was posted today.
https://x.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1804392123854135492
I've just looked back and been reminded that Peterson's suspension began 2 years ago. Has he not yet been reinstated?
Yes, he was reinstated on November 18, 2022.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-accounts-reinstated-elon-musk-donald-trump-kanye-ye-jordan-peterson-kathy-griffin-andrew-tate/
I've just looked back and been reminded that Peterson's suspension began 2 years ago. Has he not yet been reinstated?
Good morning all,
16c and a nice breeze .
Moh playing golf today ,Club Championship .. I hope he has a nice game .. it is spread over two days .
https://twitter.com/publicanvil/status/1804408638825533524
So, what is their actual beef? Did they not get to move to a rich country to work and have a better life?
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Ditto England, having gone through four decades worth of armchairs via the polling booth.
https://x.com/CrossWare911/status/1804144225853829301
The mania for controlling the masses is completely out of…well…out of control!
Anybody that criticises will be swiftly;
debanked, cancelled, abused, audited, down-ticked, unliked, arrested, fined, demonetised, fired, de-amplified, shadow-banned, marginalised, black-balled, have payment services providers withdrawn.
In China, they flick a switch so your broadband speed becomes a trickle. Stop you from marrying.. there's a long list.
So many options. All at once or spread over six months.
Anybody that criticises will be swiftly;
debanked, cancelled, abused, audited, down-ticked, unliked, arrested, fined, demonetised, fired, de-amplified, shadow-banned, marginalised, black-balled, have payment services providers withdrawn.
In China, they flick a switch so your broadband speed becomes a trickle. Stop you from marrying.. there's a long list.
So many options. All at once or spread over six months.
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Morning SE,
The impression I get via the polling patterns is that, in the main the peoples like being herded,not realising that the political shepherd is using the boiling frog method.
I think the vast majority of people are quite oblivious to the manipulation that is applied.
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Morning N,
I do agree, hence the odious political manipulators are using the boiling frog method.
about a month ago..
A far-remote Canadian municipality has imposed mandatory QR codes for people to enter and exit. With this, the Canadian township Îles-de-la-Madeleine has reportedly become the first country in the world to make QR codes mandatory for visitors.
The things that are not seen in the Canadian media (well it received a mention in the French cbc but not mainstream English stuff). It is municipal Quebec stuff, who cares about them.
it's surprising that they don't demand people use the covid Era ArriveCan app to register and leave, that was built to control ins and outs at airports.
The easteners have a penchant for controlling access. During the pandemic panic,a number of Eastern Provinces shut their provincial borders to stop people entering or leaving their provinces.
Morning all 🙂😊
It was sunny a few minutes ago, but not too bad, light drifting cloud.
Michael Gove ? He's just another one of the ME political classes. And says anything he thinks he can get away with.
It's time for politician's to stop the 'US and them' attitudes. The people who have to pay for all of their 'services and other arrangements' should be considered to the first degree. But it's all about them and what they can get out of it and what they think they can get away with.
And that is their first and only priority.
Gove is a bit of a poseur. He annoys the sidesmen in church by always arriving five minutes late. He’s so consistent that it can’t be beyond his control. There are people at work who are late for every meeting and appointment because they think it shows how busy busy important they are.
Morning Sue ,
My impression of Gove is that he is rather slippery and doesn't listen .
A slug ?
When he was President of the Union (Ox Uni debating society, they invite a lot of guest speakers), he left no records behind. Zero. Every other President left a folder of letters and replies, so that future Union officers would know who to write to, and what they had replied in the past.
At the time I thought it was incompetence, but now I wonder if he destroyed the evidence on purpose.
He's very wily so probably deliberate.
Offer him some coke. That will speed him up.
People who are always late annoy me. To stop getting annoyed their invitations dry up.
Speaking of annoying … my sister texted me at 11pm and woke me up. I texted back and tore her off a strip. She texted this morning to say sorry. And ! woke me up again !
I keep my phone on silent. I don't like noisy interruptions. If I'm awake I hear the vibrations.
I put my phone in “airplane mode” when I go to bed.
Not sure if i have that setting. It's an old style flip phone. I pretend i'm Captain Kirk. :@)
If it's a committee and there is a quorum on your "side", get everyone to turn up bang on time, call the meeting to order, vote through everything you want, finish the meeting and tell late-comers:
"Tough, you should have been on time."
One of our number at an old works refused to turn up at the same time as everyone else. We'd have done 3 hours work by the time he rocked up.
He refused, outright to come in earlier, even to get up earlier and attend remotely. We did everything we could to accommodate.
One day as we sat there waiting and his floppy hatted self turned up I said 'sorry, we wanted to get on. You've missed the meeting which we held at 8:30.'
When we got to planning he had no idea what was going on and made a huge fuss and shouting match over being excluded. I simply said 'you excluded yourself from the team.'
That's a well-known trait with some professionals. They will turn up late to an appointment just to show how important and busy they are – in my book it only shows that they are pretentious t!ts. If you have an appointment you turn up on time. Full stop.
In fact if I have an hour appointment I have no compunction in taking them over that hour, if I need to.
We suffered from late to meetings syndrome at work until we got a new CEO.
After a week of delayed meetings, he just announced that doors would be locked at the appointed hour and anyone who was late would be excluded from the meeting.
it did not take long before 10AM meetings actually started at 10.
I'm talking about when a professional is late for a meeting which I am paying for. I remember when I once used a local solicitor who at that time worked from home (years ago her office was at home). I turned up for the meeting at the appointed time, she was 15 minutes late! I later sacked her because she was useless, plus she was charging me for all sorts of time that she should have borne the cost of, herself.
Moral: if you are in a profession, don't mess about with clients who are of the same profession. They know how it works, from the inside. In fact don't mess about with anyone because it gives the profession a bad name.
I always endeavour to arrive on time. It annoys me that the GP and the Vet are consistently late. my Dentist is always on time. Why can't the others manage it…Either poor planning or contempt.
Perhaps it’s because the dentist is looking at teeth and teeth alone. Moreover, at my dentist’s a routine check is just a check. If anything actually needs to be done, you have to make another appointment. This means that the appointment system is usually under tight control.
For the most part a GP or vet does not know what you or your pet may be presenting with. Even if you had a routine appointment for a blood pressure check and medication review, you might suddenly mention that you’d been getting some symptom or other that would be a red flag and need to be dealt with without delay. It only takes one patient who is found to be really sick and – say- needs an urgent hospital referral then and there to completely derail a surgery. Even if that doesn’t happen, it isn’t uncommon for people to try to get 3 or 4 issues sorted out in one appointment.
My dentist always runs late – like the doctor and the vet. I suppose if I turned up late it would be the one time they were on time and I'd be told off for being late.
Why not “make” the next meeting 15 minutes earlier. Then all turn up at the usual time without letting Gove know. He is extremely rude to keep arriving late. He needs to be shown.
Simple. Change the venue and don't tell him.
Nah. Give him a taste of his own medicine, I say.
It’s the church services he’s late for and the sidesmen do make people wait to take their seats. It just annoys them when it’s clearly habitual.
Has anyone actually confronted him over his tardiness? He needs to be told his behaviour is rude and unacceptable.
Shut and lock the doors and leave him outside.
From a seaside village in Valencia
27°C
Saturday 11:47 Sunny
Speech against Woke: Good points made.
https://youtu.be/RadP67779II?si=iMZ73reG_A-I-kaw
https://x.com/ErikMagnethi/…
(A long listen , and thankfully Piers Morgan stays silent )
@squireweston:disqus. Good morning from Audrey and I on this glorious sunny day.
You've not been let free here for awhile, are you happier in your Speccie box even if they are leaning further to the left 🤣
Cogent stuff from Dr David Martin.
https://open.substack.com/pub/tarableu/p/david-martin-is-relentless-as-we?r=10qzvs&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true
Nice try, Frosty, but no one's listening.
From Coffee House, the Spectator
How has Farage fallen for the idea that the West provoked Russia?
Comments Share 22 June 2024, 10:57am
Nigel Farage enjoyed a combative exchange with Nick Robinson in his BBC Panorama interview this evening, and acquitted himself well on many issues. True, the tax cuts and spending rises in his manifesto don’t add up – they rely on a rather over-hopeful expectation of the economy, as indeed do Labour’s. But then Farage is honest that he is not really selling us a programme for government, only giving an indication of the issues on which Reform UK will be pressing if succeeds in gaining a Commons presence. Therefore, his party can get away with some loose budgeting.
But at the same time Farage made his first big error – and one that could cost him dearly among many of his potential voters. He doubled down on previous remarks claiming that the West ‘provoked’ Vladimir Putin into invading Ukraine – provoked him, that is, by allowing the eastwards expansion of Nato and the EU.
It is a theory with which Farage’s friend, Donald Trump, is known to be in sympathy. But such is the apathy towards Europe on the part of many US voters that Trump might get away with it. It is a very different business when you are trying to appeal to the centre-right in Britain.
To accuse the West of provoking Putin into invading Ukraine is, frankly, outrageous. Putin tried to help himself to Ukraine not because the West was rattling sabres at him but because it was too weak. For years, the eastwards expansion of Nato was more symbolic than a genuine attempt to extend the umbrella that had protected western Europe during the cold war; it included only token deployments of weapons and personnel, and certainly no nuclear weapons as lay on the other side of the Russian border. Putin started testing western defences, and only when he was convinced the West was not going to defend Ukraine did he annex Crimea. Even then the western defence was feeble, both militarily and economically. It is remarkable to think now that the deal for the Nord Stream 2 pipeline was signed after the Crimean invasion. Europe was still at that point prepared to make itself reliant on Russian gas in spite of Russia having committed an act of war against a neighbouring country.
But even if Putin did feel threatened at any point by the symbolic eastward expansion of Nato or the EU, is Farage really trying to say that sovereign states of Eastern Europe do not have the right to decide which alliances they wish to join? You might as well say that Ireland has provoked the UK by remaining a member of the EU, and that therefore it would be entitled to invade its neighbour.
Farage has had a good campaign so far, but this is not going to encourage many erstwhile Conservative voters that he is a serious candidate to be Prime Minister – even if he could use the result of this election to manoeuvre himself into future contention.
Since 2014 the Ukraine had bombarded the people in the Donbas regions and also completely disregarded the Minsk accords. This seems to have been quietly forgotten.
Absolutely right, Jules. And slaughtered 14,000 Russian Speakers.
Most Politicos want to ignore it!
Absolutely right, Jules. And slaughtered 14,000 Russian Speakers.
Most Politicos want to ignore it!
I don't know why you've posted this as a response to an article on Brexit.
Since disqus modernized its app I can only use this system to upload using my iPad. At home I am able to use my computer but here at the seaside I depend much more on the iPad and for that reason I have taken advantage of your good nature to upload the article in this way.
S'alright. I just wondered if you'd had a good night with the corkscrew, that your vision might still have been a little blurred and you'd missed the target!
From Spectator comments thread
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The writer of this twaddle is exactly the type who should be press ganged into the Ukrainian front line trenches , but instead he’ll continue writing globalist propaganda , keeping the war going until much of the youth and manhood of Ukrain are rotting in their graves . I just want karma to catch up with these creeps in some way
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Because he actually is a pub bore??
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I was taught in O-level history in the 1970s that Russia – after Napoleon and Hitler – was afraid of Europe and wanted buffer states of influence around it to protect itself. (AJP Taylor I think.) So I worried at least ten years ago about the EU’s rather imperialistic overtures to Ukraine. Like Farage, I feared it would mean trouble. Those who view his comments in black and white are simplifying the issue and don’t know their history. Farage didn’t say Putin wasn’t to blame. Of course he is. But Farage did predict it, for the right reasons, and he was right.
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It’s possible for two things to be correct at the same time.
1. Russia regarded the eastward expansion of NATO as a provocation.
2. Russia invaded Ukraine because it was weak.
I would also suggest that the west’s complicity in the 2014 ousting of the then Ukrainian government also gave the Russians grounds for suspecting that the west was out to surround it.
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Do that many people really care about Ukraine anymore? It’s not on TV much and issues closer to home are more pressing.
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Very true, although they might start to care when our politicians’ carelessness and stupidity ends with us sleepwalking into a war. Of course, it will be too late by then.
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Another commentator who didn’t listen to what he said because the BBC operative was drowning him out. He said that Putin used the excuse of expansion of NATO and the EU to invade Ukraine. He didn’t say that was the reason for his invasion. He noted that Putin is a political operator which is clearly true.
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Ross Clark may know a lot about Net Zero but clearly he doesn’t know much about international relations.
“For years, the eastwards expansion of Nato was more symbolic than a genuine attempt to extend the umbrella that had protected western Europe during the cold war; it included only token deployments of weapons and personnel, and certainly no nuclear weapons as lay on the other side of the Russian border. ” What a load of utter nonsense, given that NATO transformed from a defensive alliance to one which attacked countries which were no threat to it (from Yugoslavia to Libya) why would the Russians believe that. If it was only symbolic and not real, then what was the point of it.
“…is Farage really trying to say that sovereign states of Eastern Europe do not have the right to decide which alliances they wish to join?” They certainly have the right, but we also have the right not to ask them to join or not to give them membership. The job of British politicians is to look after British interests not those of foreigners. Too much of the British political and media class have forgotten that.
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Both self interest and justice speak for supporting Ukraine.
As for all the Nato provoking Putin nonsense, did they provoke him also when he was bombing hospitals in Aleppo?
Ukraine is an enormously resource rich country as well as being strategically positioned. That’s why Putin wants it.
As above re.Brexit article.
"The job of British politicians is to look after British interests not those of foreigners."
Too effin' true.
Trouble with the Foreign Office is that they think their job is to work for the foreigners' interests.
The war in Ukraine is not about Putin’s desire to take the land but is about the US desire for regime change in Russia and the dismantling of the Russian Federation.
Russia’s vital strategic interest was always to have a port on the Black Sea whereas the UK in the days of Lord Palmerston and the US of today hoped to block Russian access and place its own fleet in the Black Sea.
Russia has vast resources and much of its land mass has gone unexploited.
Robert Bidochon aka Nick Harman. Still an irritating k n o b.
The penultimate paragraph of this piece – we have never left the EU, we follow all EU diktats, rules and regulations still. And there is no democracy in this country, we are ruled by WEF, UN, WHO et al. Oh, and the snivel serpents.
BTW, what happened with the IHR/WHO plandemic/scamdemic treaty, was it all pushed through? And, if it was, who signed us up to it? Anybody know?
I assume you read about the court case involving Surrey County Council and planning permission for oil extraction.
One of the first things to go should be the Supreme Court and reinstatement of the old Law Lords. Except that that wouldn't work either – the HoL is now also so stained with the Blair paint; that man did so much damage to this country, he should be behind bars, to be wheeled out every day in stocks for the ordinary populace to throw rotten eggs at.
I once heard a sermon on how people don’t realise what a severe torture the stocks are and how it makes all the joints and muscles ache. It was intended to deter us from the flog ‘em an’ hang ‘em mindset and not reinforce it of course. I don’t recall it being at all relevant to the lectionary, which breaks rule number one for sermons.
Good. Even more reason Blair (and plenty of his ilk) should be in them.
Our current system of justice does not work. Our laws are not equally, fairly applied. A new form of law enforcement, one far more brutal is needed.
I still believe in flogging and hanging 'em, Sue.
Reduces the criminal classes.
Cut the Lords down to just the hereditaries.
They take the long view for our country because they have a vested interest in their estates and the longevity thereof.
Clear out all the placemen and revert the lairds to being a purely modifying house!
No, haven’t read anything about that. Are you able to enlighten me, provide a link maybe?
The idea that a bunch of stupid, backward fools can hinder such projects is insane.
Those complaining should in this instance be put into a compound where they are forbidden anything made with or from oil.
When you read the comments you see how many truly bonkers remoaners there are even now fighting against Brexit. This is what's so wrong with the Left. They're psychotic.
I only wish this country were free and independent again. Brexit has not been delivered. NI is still part of the EU and there's a border down the middle of the Irish Sea. We still have loads of EU diktats being adhered to.
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Very good in my book, it lays the blame on the guilty parties in having party members shoulders largely inclusive in blame sharing, not just the party name.
https://x.com/CaliforniaFrizz/status/1804442029352497647
I'm confused. Was the liquid spilling my fault for having some or the others for bumping into me?
It's because someone bumped into me. Cause, effect. The contents of the mug doesn't matter. The effect the other had on me does.
I have to try desperately hard not to let all the milk of human kindness I possess leak out of me at the best of times, let alone when someone barges into me (though I am unlikely to be wandering the streets with a cup of tea, let alone coffee)
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Evening W,
Have a large brandy then.
Eek! The Holy Office is the Inquisition. Vigano is anti globalist.
https://x.com/dianemontagna/status/1804455071746248964
Roman Catholic Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, 83, who served as the Vatican's ambassador to the United States from 2011 to 2016, was summoned to an extrajudicial trial at the Vatican for "the crime of schism" this week, he announced Thursday on X.
"I have been summoned to the Palace of the Holy Office on June 20, in person or represented by a canon lawyer," wrote Viganò, who faces potential excommunication from the Roman Catholic Church after years of publicly questioning the legitimacy of Pope Francis and portions of the Second Vatican Council.
So he must be silenced.
Natch. TINA (as I think it was Margaret Thactcher who said).
Because he must be right!
A man who justly can be described as great, I believe.
Thank you Madeline. Howarth Parsonage is just one of thousands of libraries, museums, heritage centres and other public funded bodies which have come out in support of woofters, benders, trannies and similar mentally deficient ideologies.
Lefties live in a perpetual now. There is no past, no future, nothing except the moment. They are incapable of learning from history because to them, it doesn't exist. It's why they're so insane.
"They are incapable of learning
from history because to them, it doesn't exist."That's better.To them, those that can read, 1984 is an instruction manual. Having just read it again it is worrying.
Old comedy clip from British TV apparently….
https://x.com/LeilaniDowding/status/1803917993077866911
Brilliant
BBC in overdrive denouncing Farage and his views on Ukraine/Russian conflict. I do hope that the British public see it for the pro-left propaganda it is and vote for Reform at the coming election.
He may well have turned a lot of potential voters away with what he said. I think a majority of people have swallowed the “Putin is bad” hook, line and sinker. I totally agree with him but I’m not sure many others do. The west, US particularly, keep prodding Russia and sooner or later Putin will bite back. To our cost.
As he has done. And will do again if the west keep prodding and sending missiles into Russian territory.
Sunak and Starmer turn on Farage over Russian invasion claim. 22 June 2024.
Rishi Sunak and Keir Starmer have criticised Nigel Farage after he claimed the West provoked Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
The Prime Minister said the Reform UK leader was “completely wrong and only plays into Putin’s hands” after Mr Farage said the “ever-eastward expansion of Nato and the EU” had given Vladimir Putin a reason to justify war.
Sir Keir subsequently said he was “disgusted” with Mr Farage’s comments.
The Labour leader told reporters on Saturday: “Nigel Farage’s comments were disgusting. Russia is the aggressor and Putin bears the responsibility. We see this on the battlefield and we see it online.”
These people are just Globalist drones. I doubt that either has ever had an original or independent thought.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/06/22/election-politics-latest-news/
Their propensity to self delusion is staggering. Farage speaks the plain truth and they can't cope. Neither Sunak nor Starmer are are fit to run a whelk stall.
‘The Labour leader told reporters on Saturday: “Nigel Farage’s comments were disgusting. Russia is the aggressor and Putin bears the responsibility. We see this on the battlefield and we see it online.”’
I’ve just seen the interview on TikTok. Farage makes it quite clear that Putin is the aggressor.
This comment by Starmer is pure flannel.
But everyone will go with what Starmer says, and not check for themselves. Unfortunately.
I'm too busy trying to avoid all this political nonsense.
I've made up my mind.
At the start of this conflict, I remember a well respected ex army General explaining the situation between Russia and Ukraine and he didn't seem to agree with what the bbc were saying at the time.
A previous regular seemingly expert opinion hasn't been seen since.
How can you tell the postal vote envelops arrive from today. We had ours, and with a begging letter from the Torys to vote for them.
Our postal votes arrived today. Since the recent boundary changes, we will be in a different constituency. Given our location right on the boundary of the new area, I suspect we will be ignored. Both our current and the new constituency are very safe Con seats.
From friends of MH who live in the new constituency, the current MP there is that rare creature, a well-regarded MP who (unlike the con MP we currently have) seems to do quite a lot for the constituents.
I shall be voting for the Reform candidate.
So far, we have had a leaflet then a little booklet from the current Tory MP in this new, very safe Con area, and a leaflet from the limp dumb candidate. Ha ha ha , fat chance he stands . We also had a leaflet from an independent candidate ……. for another new, and neighbouring, constituency. That last one doesn't even know where the boundaries lie for the constituency he hopes to represent – what a plonker.
Interesting times.Its like Brexit,who would have thought it..
Yerse… and look how that turned out… BRINO.
Neither Sunak nor Starmer are serious politicians. It would be a tragedy if Starmer gains power.
The reason the conservatives have lost support is precisely because Boris Johnson focused his attentions and support on Ukraine. Nobody but a fool would fail to see that Russia was provoked, a provocation starting with the displacement of the elected Ukrainian leadership in 2014 by western allies of the US, a provocation escalated by the persistent shelling of the Russian speaking Donbas over the past decade.
Most of us are horrified to see the idiot Sunak sharing a joke with Zelensky and sending billions to Ukraine whilst our country infrastructure is falling apart and virtually all public services failing.
Hopefully Sunak, Hunt, Shapps and the rest of the cabinet lose their seats at the coming election.
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Dear Saira. Go fuck yourself.
Love Phizzee.
I couldn't have received the memo to make her life miserable. Has anyone got the instructions, so that I can join in?
indeed, I feel I have been neglecting my job of making her life miserable.
She should remove from her life everything invented by white men. This might fit the bill.
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Dear dear, I'm so sorry that you think like that, perhaps you should kindly leave the country.
And do us a favour. And your self of course.
Bu88er.
And there was I catching up on the ironing.
Think of the fun I was missing.
388769+ up ticks,
Many of the electorate would do themselves a massive favour if they took time out to think outside the box, ALL party leaders are handicapped, toting odious baggage from past actions, the need currently for some sort of political saviour is enormous.
In reality we could be looking at enough interchangeable cheeks for two arses,
General election latest: Sunak and Starmer turn on Farage over Russian invasion claim
We have just posted our postal votes. Its our first time. Shouldhave done it years ago.
Did you send in ten votes each for Reform?
Only Two.
Really rude !
1. She has a tight pussy with no pubes.
2. Her tits are perfectly formed with nice nipples.
3. The staff at Madame Tussuads are really quick at calling the police.
Time for a Swift exit?
The young lady seems to be doing very well. Makes Madonna look like a burnt out tart.
Her success is down to making a song and dance about her private life.
She definitely has the zeitgeist. Not my cup of tea though.
Not my cup of tea either.
I prefer coffee – but I do need to get the grind right and keep the pressure up so that I get enough crema squeezed of the beans.
You kill me ! So sick !
Have you tried two shots?
That can really blow your mind!
I prefer the ones in our swift nesting boxes.
You are very subtle. Have i invited you to my party yet? If not, consider it so.
Madonna is a burnt out tart – doesn't need TS.
388769+ up ticks,
Doya,wanna dance to a rock & roll tune,
https://x.com/SandraWeeden/status/1804478515552653809
Will Nigel's dog be invited to the next political head to head on BBC?
https://youtu.be/rtxbM7-jAD0?si=wrzsqNtdi1_IxZ8O
Farage accused of bribing each electorate £169.50.. New York Attorney General Letitia James to advise on show trial.
Farage vows to scrap BBC licence fee. 'Wasteful' broadcaster's levy is 'taxation without representation', says Reform UK manifesto.
Landslide.
Not taxing people is not a bribe. It's simply not taking their own money from them.
Attorney gets her facts wrong. Nothing new there.
Each household. Not "electorate".
A thought….https://open.substack.com/pub/tarableu/p/ai-has-i-am-thinking-polluted-internet?r=10qzvs&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true
Google's search is considered pretty much useless these days because it's either deliberately giving 'right on' answers or just deceit.
Try searching for the costs of windmills subsidy. You won't get any of the answers referencing the truth. This is the opposite of what Google started out with.
Try searching for the income tax rates paid by European Commission retirees on their EC pensions. Christopher Booker wrote about it once, but I have failed to find the figures.
Try nil?
Exactly. Nil.
All these systems have now been corrupted. I was on Wikipedia the other day looking up Russiagate. It bears no resemblance to either my memory or the truth.
Hopefully with a similar result.
Nigel Farage is a ‘pub bore’ with simplistic answers, says Ben Wallace
Reform leader accused of being ‘consistently wrong’ about Ukraine war after claiming the West provoked Russian invasion
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/06/22/nigel-farage-pub-bore-claiming-west-provoked-ukraine-war/
Cuba. Russian missiles. Fidel Castro. Nikita Khrushchev. Jack Kennedy?
Why was it acceptable for the US to feel threatened in 1962 when nukes were going to be installed in Cuba but not acceptable for Russia to feel threatened in the 2020s when the USA was talking about installing nuclear weapons in the Ukraine and there was loose talk about Ukraine joining the EU and NATO?
BTL Percival Wrattstrangler
Sorry, Wallace, old chap, but you must be a bit thick and bit boring yourself not to notice that Farage is very amusing, very well briefed, has all the facts and figures at his fingertips and, whether you agree with him or not, he is without doubt the finest British orator since Winston Churchill.
Exactly! The one thing Farage has going for him is not being boring.
Nigel Farage is a ‘pub bore’ with simplistic answers, says Ben Wallace – a man who served in a Government that couldn't even manage simplistic answers!
A weatherman on GBN just boasted that we’re in for much higher than average summer temperatures so Dawn thingy asked him, “How long is it going to last”? He said, “Until Thursday”. Reminds me of “The Commitments” version of the “Fame” song. 🎼 “Fame! I’m gonna live ‘til Tuesday!”
It's just over two thirds of the way through the month, and we've already had over 3 times our total average monthly rainfall.
Some rain is forecast every day for the next 10.
edit correction to two thirds through.
You just gave me a laugh out loud moment. :@)
Rain on Thursday according to my farming contacts.
A weatherman on GBN just boasted that we’re in for much higher than average summer temperatures so Dawn thingy asked him, “How long is it going to last”? He said, “Until Thursday”. Reminds me of “The Commitments” version of the “Fame” song. 🎼 “Fame! I’m gonna live ‘til Tuesday!”
All this trying to gotcha Nigel Farage about Russia is just a red herring – to keep the campaigning away from the topic of immigration. Won't work. Vote Reform.
They are going to write about this era in the future. It's going to be notorious. And all the books will have heros who stood up to our corrupt, venal, vile 'leaders.'
https://x.com/pepesgrandma/status/1803190910487761106
This is how serious the Idaho attack on farmers is:
Wall Street Apes
@WallStreetApes
I Hope This Makes The Idaho Water Shutoff To Farmers Real For People
🚨 Idaho is fining Farmers $300 PER ACRE for using water
Farmers are already declaring bankruptcy
Here are 2 farmers from eastern Idaho who have just received their water shutoff orders
“We just got our curtailment letter from the Idaho Department of Water Resources and they're telling us we have to shut our eight wells off.”
“Shut our water off?”
— “They want us to shut our water off. — They want us to turn our wells off.”
“The reservoirs are full, yet we're being told we cannot water 500,000 acres of crops”
“Thing. If you decide that you're just gonna keep watering, they're going to fine you $300 per acre.
If I remember rightly, Idaho is potato growing country.
Potatoes need a lot of water.
On the front page of the Mail is a picture of William and his two eldest children taking a selfie with a grown woman who makes her living by singing in her underwear and is way too successful not to be part of the Hollywood elite.
Painful.
"two eldest children" ? As for Swifty, I admire her success, though I am not (yet) a fan of her music.
whatevs.
Does it strike anyone other than myself that it is quite acceptable for the royal family to be populist but quite unacceptable for Nigel Farage to be so?
Populist? Catering to the lowest common denominator of consumers that are fed satanic trash?
Do I take it that Louis is incorruptible?
It was shown on the racing programme. They are full on into slebs. The racing seems to come a poor third to that and football. When I give up TV once my current TV licence ends, I shan't miss it.
Dalrymple
https://www.takimag.com/article/its-a-crime/
Trigger warning: the anecdotes quoted may boil your blood
“There’s no success like failure and failure’s no success at all” Bob Dylan 1965.
Love Minus Zero
(My love knows too much to argue or to judge)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZzyRcySgK8
Annoyingly it says I must subscribe to read the article. A shame, as I like Dalrymple.
If you wait for a few seconds the blocker will generally disappear.
https://twitter.com/NReclining/status/1804464358241550745
but I bet they were slaughtered ritually enough…
A Peaceful Ending.
Are the authorities finally waking up? This has been going on for years and the Police never seem to be able to solve the crimes of sheep and lambs being slaughtered by the roadside and the remains left in ditches. It is bloody obvious it's Methodists !!!
When will they get their act together !
But if they approached Methodists with such an accusation they would be stabbed, so can you blame them?
Excuse me ! What is the point of the badge and the uniform if they cower behind their sofas?
I read a few years ago that officers should accept vulgar language and swearing because it is normal to those types. Those types need a bloody good slap.
Respect the office. You lose that you have anarchy. Which is what we are now seeing on the streets.
https://x.com/beaton_les/status/1804420705947181104
Well, no one wants to be accused of racism now, do they?
I suspect wibbling might know it, but I stumbled across a new word today: "chyron"
a text-based graphic overlay displayed at the bottom of a television screen or film frame, as closed captioning or the crawl of a newscast.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/07/style/chyrons-are-named-after-a-centaur.html
I smell horse shit.
Enough to give one the trots!
You have centaured on the problem.
Only the mane one.
You've missed out an "of", surely?
I confess I snorted. Sorry, Phil.
I snickered too.
https://twitter.com/pondering1983/status/1804279639939989629
Stampede next. That's always worth a watch.
I've not shaved for nearly 70 years, but if I wanted to go to an upmarket shopping center (sic) to die, I'd go to Merry Hill.
Merry Hill upmarket? It used to be Round Oak Steel Works!
We (the civilised world) should be grateful for small mercies. 500 is better than none …..
Apparently now over 1,000.
Oh dear.
What a pity.
Never mind.
Another plate of beef carpaccio and flagon of Laurent-Perrier champagne for seat 2F.
As Dame Emma Thompson jets into London on £18,000 first class BA flight for Extinction Rebellion protests.
‘We should all eat less meat and fly less, the future of this planet is at stake and that’s perhaps more important than our own reputations.’ It may seem counter-productive in the short term but we are looking at the bigger picture.’
Bleats right-on Leftie Dame Emma.
I can assure “Dame Emma” that the planet is OK and will still be revolving round the sun in 50 million years’ time.
It's Emma Thompson, so every one froze,
There's always a shi tshow, wherever she goes.
Inspired by the captions under the cartoon frames in Rupert the Bear annuals (remember those?).
It's Emma Thompson, what a to do,
The hectoring hypocrite, crock-full of p oo.
Sorry, Freudian blip. Whenever I think of Emma Thompson, the thought automatically correlates with something brown, smelly and swirly. I have no idea why.
Fun Fact: Emma is the patron of the Refugee Council which is, naturally, a charity (so paid for by us) which undermines our asylum laws so that our 'cake-filled, grey, little island' is rammed full of the kind of people Emma The Poop wouldn't share an aeroplane seat with.
Oh no, Emma Thompson. I don't want to meet her,
Her head's like a potty and full of excreta.
I can't stop. Help!
Another plate of beef carpaccio and flagon of Laurent-Perrier champagne for seat 2F.
As Dame Emma Thompson jets into London on £18,000 first class BA flight for Extinction Rebellion protests.
‘We should all eat less meat and fly less, the future of this planet is at stake and that’s perhaps more important than our own reputations.’ It may seem counter-productive in the short term but we are looking at the bigger picture.’
Bleats right-on Leftie Dame Emma.
https://x.com/RicciGeri/status/1804285313998819426
Karachi Upon Soar.
That video is of Coventry Road, Small Heath, Birmingham where I grew up. Truly depressing.
That video is of Coventry Road, Small Heath, Birmingham where I grew up. Truly depressing.
https://twitter.com/Basant_Khedia/status/1804426532854939929
Wow. Just imagine the aggro if say a young boy scuffs a Koran, or a teacher shows a cartoo…..oh….wait…
Every single place on earth they end up in or at, they create and cause as much trouble and disrespect as possible.
shiite, absolute and utter shiite .
They come to conquer of course.
Just back from a bimble along part of the Castleman Trailway, a defunct railway line that fell to the Beeching axe.
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Castleman's Corkscrew, the original south-western mainline that became a backwater and which, if open today, would be a valuable public transport asset in an increasingly urbanised area.
Indeed William. A tramway linking up the villages it runs through would be a Godsend.
Lovely photos, GvfmQ!
A slated Birdie Three!
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Well done.
There appears to be an epidemic, vw!
I’m waiting for the day my customary first word is actually the answer but this came close.
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Well done, Sue.
I guess that you are psychic, Sue . . . is it catching?
All you Goodbye people were always going to do well on this one!
Boring, boring Arsenal for me…..
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“I cannot find a single redeeming feature about the Labour Party. They want open borders, zero growth and everyone living in a bucket of shame because their great great grandad once bought a hairbrush that had possibly been made by slaves.
“Their manifesto contains just 87 words on farming. Which, when translated into English basically say: ‘We hate you, you meat-eating rural halfwits.’”
"Inheritance tax on farm land means that in 20 years there’ll be no farm land left in the UK – and people face the possibility of having hard-earned savings given to those who “haven’t worked at all.”
" I’d rather vote for my dog than Sir Starmer’s merry bunch of ideological nincompoops”.
Jeremy Clarkson, The Sun.
https://x.com/G4ABX/status/1804247356876988519
As we only 5 minutes walk from our polling station I've
been checking out the new local candidates for the 4th of July.
We've recently had a bit of a boundary shuffle. Our previous mp no longer represents our area.
With no previous knowledge of either I shall vote Reform. He's ex Labour, so two birds with one stone as it were. 😊
look at the state of the one on the left..
Managed to get rid of Worzel Gummidge.. then Aunt Sally rocks up.
I’d rather vote for Jeremy’s dog too but Louise someone or other is standing for Reform in Hammersmith so I’ll vote for her.
Was chatting to a farming family at the fete. They were very unhappy with the prospects of a Labour government. They live in Wales and said Labour had been a disaster, particularly for their National Health Service.
a neighbour went on holiday today and left me a big bag of spinach and a head of broccoli. So I have made spinach, lentil, chickpea and lemon soup; and sweet potato, carrot (using veg brought back by my daughter) and spinach curry. I am pondering the broccoli, but anything using onions is off the menu as I have run out.
A colleague at work asked me to being home some eggs and cottage cheese as she is on holiday next week. So I am going to make some cheese and onion cornbread. When I get some onions!
This is sad news. RIP, Sharkey.
https://youtu.be/xxRuwoiwZHk?si=8XhGBSqv9vqMDYOo
the man who.. 'had he not disobeyed orders, we might have lost the war.'
Indeed.
Did the right thing, not what the Establishment wanted – which was why we never heard much about him afterwards. Brings someone else to mind…
Indeed.
Did the right thing, not what the Establishment wanted – which was why we never heard much about him afterwards. Brings someone else to mind…
In his own words…https://www.ssafa.org.uk/support-us/our-national-campaigns/falklands-40/falklands-40-sharkey-ward
R.I.P.
https://x.com/True_Belle/st…
Wow , brave girl !
Does 'election' contain a typo?
Did that stand out ?
https://x.com/True_Belle/st…
Wow , brave girl !
this fits in with a thread from earlier. It’s a podcast from UnHerd on censorship and how governments are deliberately allowing the UN etc to rule over us.
Paul Coleman is executive director of Alliance Defending Freedom and has been involved in more than 20 cases before the European Court of Human Rights. He is the author of Censored (2016), about the rise of European hate crime laws. He joins UnHerd’s Freddie Sayers to demystify the inner workings of the international censorship complex.
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/unherd-with-freddie-sayers/id1540134798
Dashing off now, cats, mice etc
Here's one for you: There's a craft fair next week, the "the summer artisan fair at Sculpture by the Lakes" in Dorset, that I can recommend. My crazed teacher friend is (wo)manning a stall there, Dorset Wool, so I have no shame in recommending all Y'all that live in those parts to visit when you get a moment. 25-29 June. https://www.sculpturebythel…
Looks interesting!
If you do drop by, say "Hi!" from me… 😉
I fear an own goal here. Farage has handed his enemies, of which there are millions, a stick to beat him with, and taht beating has started. Given that most people are stupid and do what they are told, I'm afraid Reform's ratings will now drop.
He shouldn't have gone there, and just spouted platitudes. Unfortunately.
I made that point here yesterday. It didn't go down well with some.
I noticed, but I fear you are right. His enemies, of whom there are myriad, have an effective weapon now when thet didn't know how to before.
It was a tweet that was dredged up from 2022 that kicked off this spat. He is not a chap to change his mind and what he says (as we know) is absolutely correct. However, you are correct in that his enemies have found one big stick with which to beat him.
But what was he to do? Deny his remarks online and, indeed, in the EU parliament that are on record? Any backtracking or obfuscation would have been pounced upon.
"That the truth should remain silent I had almost forgot."
[Enobarbus: Antony and Cleopatra]
For far too long politicians have done all they can to avoid telling the truth. And of course liars will always accuse those who tell the truth of being liars.
Disagree, most people agree with Farage, if you look at the btl comments across the papers.
You, Nigel Farage, every time. The EU and our successive governments since and including Blair, have proved themselves to be liars as well as incompetent. Their meddling in foreign affairs terrifies me.
It could be argued that the emergence of Putin and his 25 year grip on power owes a lot to western triumphalism when the Soviet Union imploded.
With more tactful handling of a bruised giant, we would now have a useful ally in the struggle against militant Islam.
Agreed, Anne.
Thank you.
It's not a terribly popular view.
I agree totally.
I was being facetious.
Oi ! That's my job !
Raheem is right of course but GBN have to appease OfCom.
https://x.com/RaheemKassam/status/1804431316567339241
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/57366af9db95ae416099e51c08d6152230c8435cc7cd6e1b9a6022cdb8ea182b.jpg Where's Philip?
I've just had a big wedge of my home-made bacon, mushroom and tenderstem broccoli flan. Yup, it's a flan, not a 'quiche' because I'm not poncy and I'm not French.
It was rather yummy.👍🏻😋
looks good enough to eat
Have you got a soggy bottom?
Of course not. My home-made Pâte brisée was properly blind-baked first (with scrunched greaseproof paper and genuine ‘baking beans’).
Leftovers (with the steamed tenderstem broccoli stalks) today.
'Night All
Bastards!!!
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Perhaps private, as opposed to public, opinion polls are showing Reform is doing far better than the PTB would want.
More reasons to vote Reform.
The whole of our existing political format needs changing. None of our established political parties will ever do anything about it. They are too comfortable to make changes.
Google hasn't learnt from the debanking debacle.
Given that Max is coy about Labour's intentions on all kinds of taxes and illegal immigration, don't be surprised if he capitulates on the EU.
We haven't significantly gone away from all the EU regs; they incorporated them all into UK law. I bought some Round up the other day and it's pathetic. Before the EU started meddling, it was really effective.
So Farage answers a question honestly and then suddenly the MSM and the Westminster uni Parties go apoplectic.
Farage ends up getting more election coverage than he ever thought possible.
While the leaders of the old mainstream parties go into meltdown.
Farage has certainly learnt a lot from Trump and the mainstream has fallen for it all over again.
Nigel should shamelessly nick Trump's greatest line;
It's not me they're after, it's you! I just happen to be in the way……..
Ain't that the truth!
Absolutely Oberst, let’s keep pumping it out there!
Trust Trump to have a short, memorable, and correct saying.
I have to admit I’m not a huge fan, he has too many failings (like the rest of us) but he has the ability to nail it with a phrase or a saying. He’s a very good politician and if I was American I would actually vote for him every time!
The simple statement "I have a completely open mind about Trump" has led to the loss of so many previously supposed friends. What is the matter with having an open mind on any subject at all?
Surely you know "the science is settled" 🙂
Ah! That has proved another big "friend"-loser, Conway
https://x.com/robinmonotti/status/1804268234709074087
What kind of diplomatic gobbledegook is contained that statement?
No wonder nobody ever seems to understand what is intended or wanted.
That's the intention, sos….
The cold blooded, cynical, bastard inside me starts to wonder if this is all a set up to raise a lot of cash.
Who gets the "GoFundMe" proceeds if he suddenly pops up again.?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13558249/new-pictured-jay-slater-missing-nightclub-female-friend-hours-disappeared.html
I hope he's OK, but given the history I wonder what's going on here.
We were just discussing that.
A vey strange set up and one that doesn't encourage charitable thoughts.
It certainly seems very odd to me.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/eight-thugs-who-split-boys-33066928
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13558249/new-pictured-jay-slater-missing-nightclub-female-friend-hours-disappeared.html
Scroll through the photos on the DM and there is an identical picture of the criminal lad featured in the The Daily Record .
I smell a rat!
The average 19 year old hardly moves from the bars and sea fronts.
Why is he up in the mountains an 11 hour walk away from the resort?
He doesn't strike me as being a rambler or a nature lover.
I think that 'Follow the money' is logical, not cynical.
This is a very bizarre story and I’m sure that something is being held back. The British police have even offered help. Why so much interest in this particular disappearance?
Perhaps he’s broken some parole requirement?
Look, a squirrel
:-DDD good to see you're still you……..
Hi KJ – I gather from James Gatehouse you were asking after me recently – how very kind 😊 I'm OK but not been very well so not as active here and elsewhere as I usually am. Should be back to whatever passes for "normal" with me soon I hope.
This actually is a very strange story, more and more so as it unfolds. I think he was mixed up in something very unsavoury with the two Brits who rented the apartment he went back to from some night-club. Originally it was reported that he had misses a bus, but he was seen early the following morning at a bus-stop and asked a woman when the next one was. She told him about two hours so he decided to make an 11-hour walk? Pull the other one, it has bells on. He wanted/needed to get away from someone fast. Anything could have happened to him really. I guess we'll find out in due course.
Hope you are fit and flourishing and doing lots of painting :))
Hi PJ, really good to hear from you, and thanks to James G for passing on my msg. I’m very well, apart from the memory gaps – those who seem to know tell me I’m making good progress. News update – we were married on 3 June my 75th following solicitor advice to avoid IHT which would have been eye watering, largely due to me buying up land/woodland as and when I could afford, prices having increased substantially since. Had a great day with closest people and lots of champagne. So yes, reasonably fit and flourishing, as I hope you now are too:-) and very much hope to stay in touch. The Spectator is not the place it once was, my sub expires in a few days and I doubt I’ll stay, will likely be here instead. I haven’t painted for a while, although my head is full of ideas especially re landscape – I know I am ockering and should just get on with it. Latest Tenerife update 7 days and counting re the young Brit seems to be along the lines of dancing topless in night club the night he disappeared. My offspring and their friends went out there 20 odd years ago and were glad to leave. If he was as high as is suggested, could be anything just as you say. See you soon I hope PJ 🙂
Congratulations! So pleased to hear that BH has made an honest woman out of you even if for somewhat less than altruistic reasons 😂
Currently raising a baby magpie that fell out of its nest and the guy who comes to clear my gutters found about three weeks ago. It is the second time I done this, the first about nine ago and very successfully – it went off to join its friends after about three or four weeks. This one is completely different and showing no signs of wanting to leave “home”😯 Has only just learned to use its wings to prevent crash-landings and still sits there with mouth wide open waiting for food to be put in as soon as I appear. It isn’t bothered by the cats which is a bit worrying too, but they don’t seem very interested – so far! Lots of young magpies around, one of which keeps trying to tempt it into trees, but so far it is lacking either courage or interest and keeps coming back to the open kitchen window and its cage/nest. I shall just have to let it go its own way in its own time, hope for the best but keep it inside at night.
Ha. He’d have done it years ago, I was the one dragging the old feet. Magpie very interesting…why the heck would it leave you and your place:-) What are you feeding it on btw…dog food? It’ll talk back to you, similarly to a parrot. I haven’t seen a magpie for a few years now, we have a lot of crows (nest robbers), in turn the sparrow hawk takes baby crows. Very pleased pipistrelle numbers increasing again after quite a few years, nothing like the numbers previously as yet tho. How’s your pond doing? We have lots of yellow iris this year, no idea how they came there. I must be the most idle gardener I know :-DD
Magpies are very intelligent and very easy to tame – too easy probably! I was feeding it mince (like the last one) then it seemed to go off that and I saw it pecking at left-over cat-food so switched to that. Seems happy with it at the moment and also pecks away at hydrangea leaves and flowers just outside the kitchen window. If I manage to swat flies I feed it those too – it loves them :D! I don’t have a pond but I do have a pool. It is green! Never had this problem before but heard today that this year it is widespread but not sure why. Lots of odd things happening in gardens this year. My montbretia is about two months ahead of itself and saw one today in full flower by the side of the road!
Oh my..look forward to conversation updates with magpie. Possibly cat food easier to swallow? Mind, some pet meals sound like any other ready meal, just need a glass (bowl in cat’s case) of wine 😀 I have left our pond to go wild, do as it wishes – one time I used to refresh the water and all that sort of nonsense. Now I see different birds and animals drinking there. Saw wild swans yesterday for first time several years. Also had hares, badgers..no foxes tho, not for some years. Bizarrely, montbretia has grown in woodland here for around a decade – I thought deliberately planted but maybe not as you’ve seen by roadside – they must self seed perhaps? you’ll know 🙂
Anything will self-seed if left to its own devices, but montbretia spreads like mad and needs thinning out in gardens, so maybe someone did that and just threw what they didn’t want into the woodlands?
Yes, likely scenario. Years ago, there was no refuse collection so people used to just discard their rubbish anywhere, often in the wood. I’ve found many pieces of shell, porcelain, metal, glass…have a shoebox almost full. Also found full and half empty bottles of spirits, condoms, playboy mags, risla papers (no tobacco or maryjane), tents, burnt underwear…list goes on, but this was around two decades ago….now people buy booze from supermarkets, see porn online….also my kicking off might have made a few teens think twice…
In fact I don’t see the harm in chucking some unwanted montbretia bulbs back into nature :)) Agree with you about the rest though.
Me neither. Lovely splash of colour:-)
My SiL tells me he is a very nasty drug dealer with a very violent past. The kidnap theory seems quite a good one.
If the name and address isn’t merely coincidence he’s a thug of the first water.
His "dear old Mum", though…
The photo can't possibly be coincidence, can it Shirley?
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/eight-thugs-who-split-boys-33066928
He’s the same age as my son, and when I read the initial report I was really upset. If it turns out I’ve been scammed, I’ll be apocalyptic.
Reported earlier his phone was pinging somewhere locally. Doesn't mean he's there with it, I suppose.
People are such shameless hustlers these days. Almost a badge of honour. I do, though, hope that the lad has come to no harm
https://twitter.com/buitengebieden/status/1804528150572879924
Beautiful!
Glad you're back in the land of the living, mola
How are you feeling, molamola?
Not bad, had a bad dizzy spell yesterday a.m. and another this morning. But I think I'm onto the cause, hopefully.
I'm thinking it's some kind of Labyrinthitis or similar. Once the weekend is over I shall try a few experiments.
Take care, man. Don't tough it out, get help at the first suspicion.
Take care and keep it steady. xx
Ah! My husband had a very unpleasant attack of that, did nothing about it for ages 🙄 and developed tinnitus! Be warned! Glad you’re on the ball! X
Easy and early leaning.
Brilliant!
On Gove: he wrote a diary piece on the Speccie last year where he revealed his reverence for Gramsci and his admiration for the "long march through the institutions" including how this has been accomplished. I think that says it all.
Gove was a red hot socialist at university. Many people, me included, have never bought his sudden conversion to conservatism about five minutes after graduating.
Making a life long living out of doing absolutely eff all ?
Out of subversion. The man is a thespian and a liar.
'Thespian', opopanax….delish….!
I think he has been the biggest force in the Cons for about a quarter of a century.
Definitely a life of doing only the necessary.
Well practiced by hundreds of them.
Yes, modern day Punch.
Quite. If we are looking for the destructive power within that has destroyed both Brexit and the Conservative Party I think we need look no further.
That is what I think.
Once you accept the idea that the end justifies the means – the end being your particular dogma and the means being any kind of unethical behaviour – then you are lost
Only have to watch the beggar dancing, opopanax, see the cut of his jib. (EV still under tree….)
Glad about the EV, KJ! I was on the verge of enquiring x
I'm not a pinko (surprise) but some of what Gramsci said is right on the money – extract from Wiki (yes, I know!)
Gramsci is best known for his theory of cultural hegemony, which describes how the state and ruling capitalist class — the bourgeoisie — use cultural institutions to maintain wealth and power in capitalist societies. In Gramsci's view, the bourgeoisie develops a hegemonic culture using ideology rather than violence, economic force, or coercion.
Sounds pretty good to me……
https://x.com/DawnLennon14/status/1804451024440021116
I think the problem might be as the previously emmenent ex army General explained about three years ago. A country cannot join NATO if it has a border dispute with another country. And the same as every other single thing that becomes relevant on the planet, as soon as the political idiots take control its stuffed beyond repair. Same old story.
People have exceedingly short attention spans. The confected fury Lab Con Lib are expressing is just that, I'm afraid. They do know all this.
A compulsive and habitual liar.
As most of them are.
Another day is done so, I wish you a goodnight and may God bless you all, Gentlefolk. Bis morgen früh. If we are spared!
G'night, Tom. Sleep well. See from you tomorrow!
Sleep well Tom.
Sleep well Tom, but be careful x
Should I be aware of the bogey man, Maggie?
Oh yes, the Dimple or Johnny Walker or even old friend Laphroaig.
I don’t care for the smokey, peaty Western Island Scotch. Clean Speyside for me. Even J Walker of Kilmarnock is preferable to Laphroig.
I like Jura.🥃slange var.
My favourites are The Glenlivet and Macallan 12 -year -old,
I agree. My brother loves the Islay malts but I find them overpowering. Speyside and Highland for me.
Glenlivet or MacAllan for me from Speyside, love Bunnahabhain from Islay as the best.
Johnnie Walker Blue Label is the best blended about – and ought to be, at that price.
A 12-year Glen Grant tonight: a favourite.
Macallan….. it really doesnt get any better than that!!!
Second Son agrees.
Like Jesus crying on your tongue…
Wow, I like that – even if it may be just a teensy bit blasphemous, I'm a good Catholic lad you see – and I will use it in future! Respect to your second son, both of mine cant stand Scotch of any description!
SS is one smart cookie. When I was 23 as he is, I could barely stand, I was such a dumbass. But, the effect of his Mother on bringing him up all proper like, and he's a useful, skilled and discerning member of society.
Great stuff! – just occasionally they make you as proud as hell, dont they?
Lacrima Christi? That's a wine 🙂
Good choices, Old chap!
Educating Second Son in the joys of Scots whisky. He's developed a taste for Speyside before dinner, and West Coast after dinner. He's one savvy lad; he's not tried Jameson yet, and isn't excited by US whisky.
Good evening Paul.
It’s Scotch whisky not Scots. Just saying.
Cat among the pigeons…
<i>Sir, claret is the liquor for boys; port, for men; but he who aspires to be a hero must drink brandy.
Dr Johnson.</i>
Must say I agree with him; I like whisky but I've just opened a bottle of Hine VSOP. Perfect!
Armagnac for me but I love the better cognacs.
Sorry, poor typing on flat screen. Fonger trouble…
Sensible lad but I don’t aprove his post prandial tastes. As for Jamesons and others- if it’s not Scotch, I don’t wanna know.
I can't bear the taste of any Scotch whiskey, the Speysides being the worst. They taste like TCP
Depends how used you are to drinking TCP!
Nice wee dram Laphroaig.
I like Oban.
"Gentle on the nose, with maritime aromas, this super-natural Oban has a rich personality on the palate; a second maturation in Amontillado casks gently bringing new layers of vibrancy and flavour. Rich caramel and spice light up violet plum and blackberry."
It just tastes good to me.
That might be the one I was asking about below?
Don't know Oban. I'll have to give it a taste, now you describe it like that, Johnny.
The Bunyip
https://youtu.be/WtrYO-Mog60
Never heard of it so it, Opopanax, so I’m not bothered.
Doing my best, Night night, Paul et al.
Yes, but this is psychological manipulation without moral compass
Dont be so condescending 😉 ……
Tinker! Just stoppit, 4G!
I'll try O, I'll try but you know me – I just cant resist a punch-up…..
Give it a whirl – it's so much more relaxing! x
Can rest assured if it ever goes I'll be the first to crow 😀 Quite useful tho to 'mention' it to him now and again! Trust you and yours well x
My good lady and I popped into to have a coffee and socialise with my elder sister and her hubby this morning.
Their daughter from SA is staying at the moment. Poor old BiL although at almost 90 years of age is very compos mentis but is slowly slipping away. He is sleeping a lot. It's inevitable, but very sad to see a really nice and clever old chap slipping away.
And on that note it's good night from me. 😴
I hope has has a quiet and peaceful ending.
That sounds a tad sinister, BoB
Janet Daley describes the state of the nation as comparable with 1979. It's not. That was a UK that was still the country that we grew up in. For all its faults even then it was recognisably ours and we hoped that a change of government would bring a change of fortune. There were two sides to the argument – a bit to the left, a bit to the right.
In the 45 years that have passed it's changed beyond recognition, socially, culturally, racially. That simple world has gone. Society is fracturing in all directions. Alien cultures have been implanted. Notwithstanding that there were at times modest tensions between England and the rest, we bumped along together. Not now. It's not just Blair's devolution disaster that has broken the country but immigration, with the ancestral British (and the decent adopted of long standing) having to fight for space in their own land with the one-eighth of the population that has arrived in the last 20 years.
So why does she ask why Farage is so prominent? All he's is doing is pointing out what's wrong. He's not the Master of Chaos. We all know who that is.
Farage hasn't split the Tory vote. Cameron did that. And there are no elder statesmen. Not any more. Perhaps one will emerge from the calamity about to engulf us but I won't bet much on that happening.
Janet hails from the Yank/Canadian PofV. Hardly clear-eyed
“Farage hasn't split the Tory vote. Cameron did that. And there are no elder statesmen. Not any more. Perhaps one will emerge from the calamity about to engulf us but I won't bet much on that happening.”
Yes. I am getting a bit fed up with MSM saying it’s all Farage’s fault. It’s nothing of the sort.
(I’m back from my gallivanting btw).
If you tell a lie often enough the plebs will believe it.
Any Labour ‘plans’ for the future are not muc different to the Cons. And there is so much the Cons could and should have done in the last 14 years it’s not worth listing. We’re even at war with Russia without officially declaring it. What do the Cons expect – that we should vote them back in? They’re avin a larf! I’d like to think there will be a really big swing to Reform but I wonder if NF has put a spanner in the works by putting the blame on the west for poking the bear over the last 10 years. (I agree with him btw).
Labour plans are very different and even more sinister. I know and agree that we have been conned for the last 14 years, but what is coming will knock that betrayal into a cocked hat,
Starmer has not won yet. A lot can happen in the next fortnight.
This notion of "splitting the vote" carries and arrogant assumption that one party is having lost the votes to which they have some sort of right.
Janet Daley describes the state of the nation as comparable with 1979. It's not. That was a UK that was still the country that we grew up in. For all its faults even then it was recognisably ours and we hoped that a change of government would bring a change of fortune. There were two sides to the argument – a bit to the left, a bit to the right.
In the 45 years that have passed it's changed beyond recognition, socially, culturally, racially. That simple world has gone. Society is fracturing in all directions. Alien cultures have been implanted. Notwithstanding that there were at times modest tensions between England and the rest, we bumped along together. Not now. It's not just Blair's devolution disaster that has broken the country but immigration, with the ancestral British (and the decent adopted of long standing) having to fight for space in their own land with the one-eighth of the population that has arrived in the last 20 years.
So why does she ask why Farage is so prominent? All he's is doing is pointing out what's wrong. He's not the Master of Chaos. We all know who that is.
Farage hasn't split the Tory vote. Cameron did that. And there are no elder statesmen. Not any more. Perhaps one will emerge from the calamity about to engulf us but I won't bet much on that happening.
Evening, all. Kadi was a star at the fun dog show this afternoon; he didn't get placed, but he behaved really well, especially since he'd never done it before. He had a couple of consolation rosettes (veteran and most handsome lad). It was a real traditional fete; a coconut shy, plant stall, lucky dip, afternoon tea and Pimms. We were lucky with the weather, too; sunny but not too hot.
Sounds like a good day out.
I do enjoy visiting a traditional Vilage-Fete Worse-Than-Death!
I know everyone else here knows this, Conway, but what breed/sort of dog is Kadi?
He's a Cairn crossed with a Westie; a little blond terrier with a white sheen.
Sounds very cute! Daughter has something rather similar (now on last legs) – very nice little dog (and supremely lovable)
He'll be 9 next month. He looks rather like a Norfolk terrier, but with longer legs.
My Oscar, 9 and a half now.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ff9c88aa126050f47962aff2b9884399a275e6e58cbfc77f966df367a5422a90.jpg
Hello, Oscar! Ear scritches from Buenos Aires x
He loves that.
Luvvit!
Well done Kadi!
Bravo Kadi! I was at the Royal Highland Show today, and the number of brilliantly behaved dogs was amazing!
He didn't bark, even when all around him were barking their heads off!
Am I correct in assuming that others on here have been exposed to puppy photos?
I never had him as a puppy. I inherited him from my neighbour when she had a terminal cancer diagnosis. I've only had him two years.
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Aawwwww!
A beautiful day today.
Got a bit of tidying up done up the "garden" this morning, then a bit of shopping in Belper and a bit more done up the "garden" this evening.
No plans for tomorrow.
And that's me off to bed!
He looks like a good lad!
He's the family glue.
That is a Staffie! My mother used to breed them. Brilliant dogs (except with other dogs) – and their final one from a litter after we'd all grown up could not be trusted with children, who it obviously saw as sinister and a threat.
He is half Staffie and half Springer. He loves people and other dogs. Unless you are a cat, a rabbit or a squirrel he is wonderful company.
He is very handsome and I did not mean to cast nasturtiums
I forgot that you're a flying squirrel, sorry.
The whole show, not the monologue which is at the start and runs to 11:20.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkfke_BuODU
Sunday 23rd June 2024
Oberstleutnant
(aka Paul)
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a998bf525a7a55fba9164c58bf171b9a146b45b90c4468935535da0dc757f188.jpg
and very many more
Happy Birthdays
With best wishes,
Caroline and Rastus
Thanks, Rastus!
:-))
Happy birthday!
Wishing you a very Happy Birthday, Paul! Hope it a good one! 🎂🥂🍺🎉
My Oscar, died in February;
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Now that dog really does look like a teddy
Yes, I know. Unfortunately, because he'd been ill-treated, he was a grizzly inside. He didn't like being touched on his head and would defend himself. It was really difficult to convince some people not to rub his head.
I remember, so sad.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4e67785056aeba6927fd4d20826786d6fc7e59c6dae4680bac224214b8377d5b.png
https://x.com/addictcoaching/status/1804630161888887042
What the hell happened? Blair and New Labour.
Effing importation of Muslims and other assorted Third World trash.
https://x.com/ZainU21848152/status/1804188482681675865
A late addition.
Most of these Reform UK candidates' historical online remarks would not be a long way from the feelings of a lot of the country's populace.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crggy73m2ero
Goodnight, all.
Good morning, all – Sunday’s new page is here .
' Morning, Geoff, thank you and cheers for all the sterling work you have done to overcome difficulties. Wel done!
Good morning Geoff and thank you.