Saturday 22 October: Tory MPs indulging in factional conflict do their constituents a grave disservice

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  4. Putin has found a new weapon of mass destruction. Richard Kemp. 22 October 2022.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5ef211ae397d4e4c4b372a137d9b880389cb5a6b5ae7b344da685afb1d28ca6d.jpg

    If Surovikin decides he cannot hold Kherson city, he may order a withdrawal to the east of the river and, as well as evacuating civilians, there is evidence that Russia has already begun pulling back military equipment and troops rather than risk the significant losses sustained in the north east of the country. If Ukrainian forces do break through there, one option would be to blow up the dam of the Kakhovka hydroelectric power plant, flooding vast areas along the Dnieper to slow the advance. Zelensky says Russian forces have already prepared the dam for demolition by attaching powerful explosive charges.

    The Kakhovka dam holds more than 18 million cubic metres of water. If destroyed it would hurl an all-engulfing wall of water into 80 towns and villages along the Dnieper, including Kherson city with a pre-war population of 284,000, drowning thousands, creating a deluge of refugees, depriving the whole of southern Ukraine of its water supply, dangerously cutting off cooling water to the Zaporizhzhya nuclear plant and creating severe power outages for hundreds of thousands of people.

    One suspects that this is preparation for a False Flag operation by the Ukies. As can be seen from the photograph the dam has no significant headwaters and there is zero prospect of a biblical inundation. There would be flooding but it would be quite minor and recede after a few days as the river resumed its natural course. Since it is a hydro-electric installation its destruction would cut off considerable power supplies to the Donbass. It also provides water to the North Crimea Canal which used to feed irrigation and drinking water to the peninsula. Though this was blocked by the Ukies when Russia annexed the Oblast it was recently cleared by them and thus restoring supplies.

    It is quite possible, indeed probable,that this is all a threat to discourage the Russians from further attacks on Ukrainian energy targets. The Americans are obviously concerned by them and summoned Ben Wallace to Washington last week to discuss possible counter measures. Following these the US Secretary of Defense spoke on the phone yesterday (the first time in months) to Sergei Shoigu the Russian minister of Defence. Though the substance hasn’t been revealed my view is that this was almost certainly to threaten him with the total destruction of the equivalent infrastructure in the Donbass and Crimea. Whether the Russians will give into this is anyone’s guess. They must by now realise that the US is intent on their total defeat and the end of Russian Sovereignty. In other words surrender. It is by means of these inevitable developments that we draw nearer to all-out war between NATO (meaning the US) and Russia!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/21/putin-has-found-new-weapon-mass-destruction/

    1. Yet… why are we in this situation? We have NATO, created specifcally as a mutual defence compact. The UN exists and is doing nothing (but that’s par for the course for that pointless organisation). What’s the EU doing? For all their vaunted globalist agenda, they’re not interested in the difficult stuff. They just want an easy life hectoring and lecturing on things they can control.

      The war should have ended within a couple of months ass strong military powers demanded Vlad sit at the negotiating table.

          1. Agreed, Putin was at the negotiating table – for Minsk Agreement 1, 2 and 3 – but it was Zelensky at the behest of his US support who stepped away. The EU, in the shape of drunken Juncker, Horse-face Ashton and Manuel Barrosa, stirred this pot from 2010 onwards, leading to the regime changes of 2014 – two because the first didn’t fit the Biden Laundry – and after 8 years of Zelensky bombing the russian speaking regions – causing over 14,000 deaths – Vlad finally stepped in.

            Vlad isn’t the problem here and, as Minty suggests, they gain as much from damaging this dam as they did by the destruction of the Nordstream pipeline. It makes no sense that Putin would cause power problems in this area, or pipeline infrastructure problems regarding future gas sales to European countries, especially when he has full ownership of the only stopcock.

          2. Agreed, agreed. Trouble is you and I and everybody else can only watch as the idiots go down the wrong route.

  7. Morning, all. Calm with blue sky dotted with pink clouds in N Essex at the moment.

    No apologies for again exposing an expert, Dave Walsh, to put in perspective in terms that are easily understood, the position we find ourselves in re energy.
    Bannon sums it up with the, “…conscious decision,” phrase. The UK has been betrayed by these morons advocating their denial of science, in the energy situation it’s physics (with the “vaccines” it’s medicine etc.), strategies.

    War Room – Dave Walsh on Energy in UK

    1. The intent was always to run down our energy supply capacity. To always force us to unreliables and to either accept absurd prices or to not use it.

      The state, however, is panicking as politicians are being blamed for the cost of energy and the usual deflections on to the mining and drilling companies isn’t working as they thought it would (except amongst the ignorant).

      I’d imagine the same mess will occur next year, and every year with gradually less support being provided until we’re facing the hurricane of eye watering prices, forced on us by unreliables.

      1. I’ve just been notified my winter fuel payment is £500 this year. Thanks for giving me some of my money back, but I still won’t vote for you.

  8. 366467+ up ticks,

    Morning Each,

    If the electorate persist in following the same voting pattern then may one suggest that before showing their twisted love of a in name
    only party with a X they look over their
    child’s/ children’s photographs and ask themselves, am I guilty of child abuse regarding the children’s future or are these political types a “safe pair of hands”

    https://twitter.com/jolenebuntinguk/status/1583510170394853376?s=20&t=XoOIt5gwCD6NI-LOnRh9wA

    1. People are entitled to vote as they wish – or not at all. Of course, any one voting Labour is either an idiot or sociopathic.

      The Tories offer nothing except a proven interest in infighting, arguing and backstabbing. They are not worthy of being in government and deserve obliteration.

      The Lib Dems are fascists, plain and simple.

      Which leaves the smaller fringe parties who aren’t presenting an agenda of government, a philosophy or governing plan.

      2. We need to send a large consignment of these insects to Davos to consume all the turds there starting with Schwab – the man with the big job! The insects can then be harvested by Bill Gates to feed the rest of the human race.

        “Dung beetles are beetles that feed on feces. Some species of dung beetles can bury dung 250 times their own mass in one night.”

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e818eae2c6ef45b2169876aaa20c66c87c644a04f8d51b787bb41562c6418a71.jpg

        [This recalls the last verse of the song about Ilkley Moor]

  9. Is it me, or are these the traits of the current Tory party?

    Lack of empathy for others

    Impulsive behavior

    Attempting to control others with threats or aggression

    Using intelligence, charm, or charisma to manipulate others

    Not learning from mistakes or punishment

    Lying for personal gain

    Showing a tendency to physical violence and fights

    Generally superficial relationships

    Sometimes, stealing or committing other crimes

    Threatening suicide to manipulate without intention to act

    Sometimes, abusing drugs or alcohol

    Trouble with responsibilities such as a job, paying bills, etc.

    1. And from some of the people I have known in recent years, this self centered, me first attitude seems to be spreading through the population.
      Personally I feel these horrible political creatures have demonstrated just how they are completely detached from reality. All they care about and what is most important to them, their own personal situation. Just keep filling your pockets and bank accounts with taxpayers money and bungs. It’s obviously all most of them are concerned with. The self centred b&st*rds.

      1. Richard (Moh) and I are worried .

        The country is descending rapidly into a third world status .. nearly 39 thousand illegals have arrived so far this year.. , we cannot afford to accommodate them .

        All our little Dorset Market towns have English people who are sleeping rough ..

        Nigel Farage says Britain is on life support , and we all know there is a huge countryside divide .

        1. I totally agree. On the tv news break just now, they featured an elderly widow who has to try and survive on the basic state pension. I’m not sure what that actually is, there seems to be many different variations.
          But I would estimate what she receives per year is around the same amount our members of Parliament, including their extra income and expenses, take home each month.
          Something is dreadfully out of kilter.
          And it underlines the massive gap between survival and being over privileged.

    2. TBF – that applies to politicians generally, not just the one party.
      There have always been greaseballs, chancers and inadequates, just not in the majority.

      1. Sociopaths. They’re all liars, thieves they see nothing wrong with stealing from the public, they threaten us with ‘well, they’re worse!’ they manipulate, cheat, drink, they never, ever learn, they are utterly self centered and have no cocnept of responsibility, duty of integrity.

  10. Morning all 🙂
    Not the brightest of Mornings but we have our political shenanigans to cheer us up……not ☹😡

  11. 366467+ up ticks,

    IMHO surely the supporting / voting majority
    are now well aware of this political stance and they are comfortable with it, otherwise to
    maintain the Country of decency we once had they surely would have changed their voting pattern long,long ago.

    Saturday 22 October: Tory MPs indulging in factional conflict do their constituents a grave disservice

  12. To the title:

    Constituents? Those unwashed cretins? Do they think we are here to serve them?

    How very 20th Century!

    Apart from that… Bonjour everybody.

    1. Increasingly I think we should take one MP out a week and hang them. Just as a gentle reminder of who their master is. That might concentrate their limited intellectual faculties on serving the country rather than themselves.

      1. Dans ce pays-ci il est bon de tuer de temps en temps un amiral pour encourager les autres.

        [Voltaire]

        If you haven’t any spare admirals to hand you can substitute them with MPs.

  13. Good morning all

    Fine sunny morning here , 15c.. long may it last .

    The UK is in a mess.

    Why do people vote for for the political overpaid gobby slimey slugs who are indifferent to the woeful state of affairs brought on by their inept stupidity.

    Country before party .. Why do we vote these twerps in to micromanage our lives .

    2. Morning, Maggie.
      I’ve switched off; after 40+ years as an activist I have really had enough.

    3. Yesterday ‘s washing might dry today. It got a good soaking out there yesterday – I put it through the spinner again.

    2. Don’t get too excited Bore-us, just try to remember why you were kicked out in the first place. With your devil may care attitude and illegal invasion policy, you’ve done as much damage to the UK as Hitler did and possibly Blair.

    3. Shame he couldn’t afford school holiday prices, but what with flat refurbs and a scattering of byblows, he has to watch the pennies.

          1. I believe they just took a couple of overnight cases…. They knew it would be a short stay!

        2. I know it makes us seem petty, but I wondered the same thing.
          Maybe LT is glad to get out of the place; it must have given her appalling headaches.

  16. Good morning. The mists of mellow fruitfulness roll across the land belying the ragged uselessness of the political classes.

  17. I may be out of touch – but anyone who goes on and on about what a good prime minister he (or she) would be seems to be one definitely to avoid.

    1. Since Margaret Thatcher all the prime ministers have been evil – like Blair and May, bitter and twisted – like Brown, bumbling and mendacious – like Johnson, or just incompetent and colourless like Carmeron and Major. We do not go in for ‘good ‘ prime ministers nowadays.

  20. We watched Awol Indian (the beeboid’s only presenter) interviewing the Swedish Muppet. I’ll hand it to her that she has very good English. Apart from that it was clear that she is a manipulated, muddled, very much under-educated teenager. Awol did pin her down a bit – but no much.

    To my surprise, I ended feeling quite sorry for the child who has clearly had a dreadful upbringing. For a 9 year old to have depression (and not speak a word) for three years “because I was so worried about what was happening o the World…” reeks of child abuse.

    I suspect that she has no friends.

    I look at my beloved grand-daughter – now 15 – with a gang of chums she has known for many years……and is happy with her life and with school…..

    1. 3 years not speaking? Sounds bloomin’ heavenly. Could she shut up for the next 3 so we don’t have to tolerate the rambling rants of the half witted, ill informed, spoiled, stupid doom goblin?

    3. The Doom Goblin has never been more than a human shield for her parents and their eco-loon chums. After all, how could anyone criticise a poor little girl with ‘ishoos’, even if the criticism was focused on the green blob nonsense they had scripted for her..

    1. Hyperbole from the Independent, but hey, bunch of Lefties.

      Surely if Boris wins it’ll simply be that he’s popular, won them a huge majority (which they’ve wasted) and see in him a way to win the next election?

      What these fools seem to ignore, of course, is that what they (Tory MPs) want is to win. They could have done that if they’d supported Truss. Those were policies we wanted. All they’re showing is they’ve no interest in serving the country and only themselves.

      Let them burn.

    3. Hmm… this page doesn’t exist. Try searching for something else.

      It appears to have been deleted.

  22. 366467+ up ticks,

    Gerard Batten
    @gjb2021
    ·
    13h
    Voltaire: “If you can make people believe absurdities you can make them commit attrocities.”

    The last 2.5 years have shown just how easy it us for governments, backed by corrupt mass media, can make most people believe absurdities.(edited)
    Ian56a
    @Ian56a
    ·
    13h
    😲😲😲
    Never forget the insanity of the Covid Cultists.

    I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

    https://gettr.com/post/p1v30w0f7e3

  23. Ex-RAF top gun (call sign Hooligan) has made a killing training China’s fighter pilots – and helped recruit dozens of British airmen paid £250,000 a year by Beijing… so why has the MoD only just woken up to this outrage?
    British fighter pilots are being paid £250k to share vital knowledge with China
    They aren’t breaking current law but came under fire from armed forces minister
    Ex-RAF top gun Keith Hartley is Chief Operating Officer for a Beijing company

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11341957/Ex-RAF-gun-killing-training-Chinas-fighter-pilots-recruiting-British-airmen.html

  24. Morning all, a day of self inflicted pain for me today.
    No, I’m not joining the Conservative Party, instead I am off to watch Bath Rugby play. So far this season in every match they have played they have come second, and at times lucky to achieve that.
    It’s not all bad news though, I have found Butcombe Ale to be a decent pain killer post match.

      1. Tis my way of looking for a silver lining even when the game is between only two teams.

          1. Could well be considered that, after all they are playing like a load of tarts this year.

          2. I confess never to have watched yer actual play – but, from sports pages photos, many of the ladies seem indistinguishable from their male counterparts!!

          3. I enjoy watching it live and today there is a double header. After the main match, Bath Rugby Ladies play, although I cannot promise any photos of the ladies for you as I will be drinking pain killer before their match kicks off as anyway I’m not sure your health after the cold you have suffered could stand such treatment. 😊

          6. You try saying that on the DT comments and you’ll get called a ‘dinosaur’ or worse! I know this because I have been! All I said was that they may play a game but it certainly isn’t rugby!

          7. Fortunately, I am unable to comment on the DT. I rely on my thoughts being echoed (and published) by that pushy A Allan chap.

    2. Good morning vvof

      My late stepmother used to live near their training ground .

      During the time I visited we used to wander by and watch them .. that was nearly thirty years ago !!

      1. Morning Maggie.
        You must mean Lambridge training ground, the way they are playing some of those you watched could still be turning out for the team. 😂

    3. I’m from nowhere near Bath, but for some obscure reason I have always been attracted to the Bath rugby team. It probably started when they had a very successful side in the 1980s–1990s and I have followed their fortunes very closely since.

      I am predicting that you are a very happy chappie this evening? 👍🏻😊🏉

      1. Addendum: I can think of one long-term member of this column who will not be quite as happy tonight after hearing today’s match result.

    1. Smart looking dog. Alert. And I’ll bet she isn’t allowed on the furniture at home!!

      32 years ago, if I was away, my late hound used to overnight with neighbours. They let him sleep on their settee. One day I got back about 9 am and went to pick Robinson up. John was in the kitchen …WARMING ROBINSON’S MILK……. “He always likes this first thing…”

      The dog retreated and hid behind the settee in the hope that I’d push off!!

      1. Bet the MR doesn’t warm your milk or your anything else first thing. Penny is very enthusiastic about every new smell and experience. She loves making new friends (doggy & humans) in the pub. Her ‘Dad’ who works for Fullers Brewery never takes her – he doesn’t like pubs.

        1. Dogs love pubs. They enjoy the ambience of conviviality, the warmth, the chatter as they lie peacefully amongst it all. It must hark back to something atavistic in their natures.

          1. I don’t go to pubs very often, but I frequent a dog=friendly cafe which Oscar loves. He drags me in there if I try to go past, heads for the cafe and waits for his treat. Kadi has cottoned on and now both of them drag me there!

          2. We don’t go very often but we sometimes meet up with friends for lunch at a halfway point, a village off the A14, and Poppie loves it. She gets so excited when she sees them and then she lies quietly under the table listening to our conversation.

            So now both of them have you wrapped around their paws! I love treating Poppie as much as I loved treating our children when they were young (and still do) – Poppie is easier to please!

          3. Considering how tense Oscar was when I first got him, he is a different dog altogether now and I credit the calming atmosphere of the cafe for that. Once he’s had his flapjack (he and Kadi get one each) he lies under the table and goes to sleep! Thursday I had to virtually haul him out to take him home 🙂

      2. When we were dog owners Mum and Dad looked after our dog. On our return we were always invited to Sunday lunch to enable us to collect the dog. I happened to remark that every time we were served roast beef with all the trimmings.
        Mother quite simply said of course, the dog likes roast beef!

      3. Reminds me of the evening when I walked inside a barn because there was a strange slurping noise. A horse was in a loose-box next to a calf-rearing pen; the calves were fed via rubber teats attached to a large bucket of formula milk on a shelf, and the old nag had learned that she could just about reach over and drink a gallon or two whenever the container was full.

    1. I posted this two days ago but I do not apologise for posting it again. Indeed people not only should be constantly reminded of the betrayal but they should also be encouraged to ask WHY the PTB are so determined to betray us.

      “We must be mad, literally mad, as a nation to be permitting the annual inflow of some 50,000 dependents, who are for the most part the material of the future growth of the immigrant-descended population. It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre.”

      Enoch Powell

    2. It’s been said many times…..Our political classes are habitual and pathological liars.

    1. Spot on Toby. And perfect timing.
      I understand that there are some loonies out there but she takes first prize.

    2. As I said yesterday, Petty Officer Moron will make Untrussworthy seem an intellectual giant.

      1. Sadly for her Ms Mordaunt seems not to have had any children and appears to have avoided any long term relationships.
        A bit like the late Ted Heath?
        Nothing wrong with being a spinster or bachelor, but I query whether she would cope with life in Downing Street.

  30. DOUGLAS MURRAY: Our pathetic Government and rotten MPs are world-class at promoting themselves – how about thinking of us now?

    Douglas Murray 21:07, 20 Oct 2022 Updated: 21:07, 20 Oct 2022

    WELL I guess the lesson of our politics is that things can always get worse. And worse they did get. Her robotic reading of her resignation speech outside No10 was the latest 100mph car crash to smash headfirst into an increasingly pathetic government in its death throes. Truss’s day had — once again — started pitifully.

    Fed-up voters had awoken to the news of how this increasingly sorry excuse for an administration had behaved. MPs were reported to have been manhandled by their colleagues in order to make them vote for the government’s plans to allow fracking. Tory MPs had been “bullied and intimated” during appalling scenes, all captured by cameras for the public to see in all their vulgar glory.

    The speaker of the house launched an investigation. Fury abounded. Another day, another disgrace from a government that now staggers by from hour to hour. British politics — and by extension Britain — has become a global laughing stock.

    We are not acting as one of the most influential democracies in the world. We have become that which we used to mock — the southern European countries like Italy and Greece, with their chaotic governments and yo-yo-ing economies. Indeed, one left-leaning news magazine went as far to lampoon us as “Britaly” in a humiliating front page cartoon. How on earth did we get here?

    The hapless Liz Truss and her cabal of incompetents must take her share of the blame. But the problem goes deeper. If there’s one thing that unites them it is sheer selfishness. One explanation is that this has been growing for a long time. That for some years politics has not attracted the brightest or best in our country. Other people point to the expenses scandal — others blame the Brexit vote in 2016. There’s something to all these explanations, and more. But if there is one thing that unites all the problems it is the sheer selfishness of so many of those in political office.

    Consider the way that David Cameron and George Osborne behaved in 2016. They advised the country to vote one way and the country did not obey them. So both immediately resigned — and not just resigned but disappeared.

    ‘Actions of patriots’

    For days they left the country leaderless and fearful. Were these the actions of patriots? No, they were the actions of people who wanted to get ahead in politics and do well for themselves. It wasn’t much better in the Theresa May years, though at least May decided to stay in Parliament after the mess she caused. Boris Johnson looked like he might provide a clean sweep after his historic victory in 2019. But he governed selfishly.

    And so the Conservative party did what it seems to do best — throwing the country into turmoil, having a leadership contest and electing someone who they then tried to oust within weeks. What on Earth is going on? All discipline seems to have broken down. On Wednesday night a furious Conservative MP — Charles Walker — seemed on the verge of tears as he angrily described the goings-on in Parliament that night.

    ‘Half-competent’

    And Labour are no better. Although Keir Starmer is beginning to look half-competent, his party too is a shambles. Filled with virulent non-entities, the attitude of the average Labour MP now seems to be a sort of shocked superiority. What so many of these politicians seem to have lost — on all sides in Parliament — is the idea that they are there to serve the country and its people.

    Do any of them — especially in the Conservative party — remember that fact? While they play a game of permanent leadership races, have any of them got the country at heart? Or is it all about advancing themselves and getting their way? Our country is being hideously governed. And the problem with that is that we have serious problems we have to address. One truth is that many of them find the chaos useful — or think they’ll find it useful sometime soon.

    I suspect Boris Johnson will be watching the current turmoil gleefully. As will Rishi Sunak, Keir Starmer and all the other Conservative and Labour MPs who are united only in one thing — which is believing that one day the top job will fall to them. Well they are wrong. While they play their games of personal advancement, our country is suffering — badly. Our MPs have shown they are world-class at thinking about themselves.

    Liz Truss’s defenestration yesterday was as inevitable as it was excruciating. Here’s an idea, for Liz Truss’s successor and for the whole rotten lot of them. How about thinking of us?

    Reply:

    I will tell you what the problem is, Douglas, and how we got there.

    During Mrs Thatcher’s successful administration, the Left tried all manner of means at usurping her but with scant success. She took on the Left, and the unions, and beat them at their own game. She also brought in legislation to curtail union powers, and that hurt the the Left. Oh, it hurt them so much. What to do next? How to counter this Boadicea of the Right? Time for a comprehensive rethink of strategy and tactics.

    The Left went quietly to work behind the scenes whilst the Right remained smugly stupefied in their complacent torpor. The Left, around the world, are united in thought, doctrine and method. The omnipotent Global Corporations, in tandem with the World Economic Forum (WEF), who are intent on world financial domination, realised this and it didn’t take much working out that the moronically malleable tendencies that form the core of the Left, once trained, would provide them not only the best foot soldiers, but also the best guerrilla faction. Insurrection through infiltration was the way to go, and not a single facet of western society would be spared the pervasion of the malignant tendrils of the silent Left as its microcosm inveigled its malignant spores throughout every bastion of what the Right historically held sacrosanct.

    Not one single area of the Establishment was overlooked. The Right had long-since taken its eye off the ball and it languished, with its thumb up its arse in its priggish, holier-than-thou self-righteousness; while the Left quietly went about its invidious penetration of all things that really matter to the Right. One of the first bastions of society to be successfully targeted was the news media. The BBC was an early, easy and willing target. An extraordinarily huge number of Guardianistas already held sway within the hallowed halls of that colossal behemoth. Recruiting many more of a like mind was all too easy for them.

    Half the mainstream press were already of a Leftist bent. Reining in the others would take a while but it could be done. Tabloids such as The Daily Mail, The Daily Express and The Sun have each accrued as many Left-wing journalists and editors as has long been traditional at the Daily Mirror. and The Morning Star. Worse still, traditional bastions of the Right including The Times and The Daily Telegraph (yes, the vaunted Torygraph) are now riddled with Lefties who skew everything towards a Liberal angle. It cannot be mere coincidence that the deplorably plummeting standards of written English and grammar in those once-hallowed broadsheets coincides with infiltration of the Left.

    Everywhere you care to look the clear signs of deterioration are glaring. While certain factions of the Left were busy burying themselves in the fabric of the news and broadcast media, others were equally industrious manoeuvring themselves into all other spheres of influence. Education was a primary target; penetration of which was quite easy since that has always been a hotbed of Left-wing influence. Primary and secondary education became as important a quarry for Leftist intrusion as tertiary (university) education had already successfully been for some considerable time.

    The judiciary was identified quite early as a prime — and very ripe — prey for these infiltrators; and this was soon followed by the Police. The implementation of a graduate-entry scheme for the police in the late 1970s paved the way for a tranche of inept insurgents who soon found a route to rapid promotion within the force. This coincided with a relaxation on the rules of recruitment. For the first time since the inauguration of the British police service, recruits (and their closest relatives) having previous criminal convictions were not disbarred from serving. All this provided a petri-dish for the cultivation of an increasingly surreptitious Leftist influence, which accelerated the decline in standards of recruitment for police officers.

    Having successfully and insidiously implanted themselves deep within the heart of every echelon of the establishment, they now moved on towards the greatest prize of all: the Conservative and Unionist Party. It cannot be simply a coincidence that most serving Conservative members of parliament are at complete odds with the electorate that placed them in power. The vast majority are still ‘Remainers’ at heart (having fought tooth and nail, self-interestedly, against Brexit) and would love to rejoin the grubby little private members’ club known as the European Union (EU). If not just for the riding on the gravy train or scoffing themselves sick at the never-emptying trough; the fact that the EU is run by unelected friends of friends, who can never be voted out of office, has an irresistible charm and attraction for these self-servers.

    The end result is that the Left have achieved a quiet, almost unnoticed, success in taking over every area of influence in this country (as well as many others in the West). They are now deeply installed everywhere and working maniacally to continue to achieve their stated aim of a socialist world where no one will (à la Nineteen Eighty-Four) own personal property and place the “good” of society over family. Frankfurt School ‘Critical Theory’ and Common Purpose doctrines will be omnipotent.

    Will the true Right rise up against this? It is doubtful that they still possess the wherewithal — not to mention the balls or the brains — to rise up from their pink gin-addled stupor and rattle their rusty sabres. The remnants of the Right have been caught napping (literally and figuratively) and have been left at the starting gate, back in the latter part of the 20th century. Well and truly outflanked, and outgunned, I really cannot see any way back for the traditional Right.

    ©Grizzly 21 Oct, 2022.

    1. “reining in” not Reigning in”. pseudoPed 22Oct 2022
      Otherwise, bang on the nose!

        1. Actually though, many of the PM job applicants do seem to have a kind of Napoleon/Louis XIV egotistical complexes.

    2. As Douglas Murray says in his article:

      ‘……… for some years politics has not attracted the brightest or best in our country.’

      I remember the completely shambolic Shirley Williams telling us that the only way to attract better people into politics was to pay them more. Since she said that, MPs’ expense accounts and salaries have risen beyond their dreams of avarice. But we have not got better MPs just grubbier, greedier more grasping and more self-seeking ones!

    1. I have heard on Talk TV ,the figures are more like 39 thousand so far this year.

      Our little seaside towns now have so many homeless ENGLISH rough sleepers , they come down because they have heard that people are kinder , they buy them hot drinks and sandwiches etc.

  32. Good morrow, Gentlefolk:

    Wise Words on Marriage
    When a man steals your wife, there is no better revenge than to let him keep her.

    After marriage, husband and wife become two sides of a coin; they just can’t face each other, but still they stay together.

    By all means marry. If you get a good wife, you’ll be happy. If you get a bad one, you’ll become a philosopher.

    Woman inspires us to great things, and prevents us from achieving them.

    The great question which I have not been able to answer is, “What does a woman want?”

    I had some words with my wife, and she had some paragraphs with me.

    ‘Some people ask the secret of our long marriage. We take time to go to a restaurant two times a week. A little candlelight, dinner, soft music and dancing.
    She goes Tuesdays,
    I go Fridays.

    ‘There’s a way of transferring funds that is even faster than electronic banking.
    It’s called marriage.

    The first one left me,
    and the second one didn’t.

    Two secrets to keep your marriage brimming.
    1. Whenever you’re wrong, admit it,
    2. Whenever you’re right, shut up.

    The most effective way to remember your wife’s birthday is to forget it… once

    You know what I did before I married?
    Anything I wanted to.

    My wife and I were happy for twenty years.
    Then we met.

    A good wife always forgives her husband when she’s wrong.

    A man inserted an ‘Ad’ in the classifieds: ‘Wife wanted’.
    Next day he received a hundred letters.
    They all said the same thing, ‘You can have mine.’

    First Guy (proudly), ‘My wife’s an angel!’
    Second Guy, ‘You’re lucky, mine’s still alive.’

    1. Good morning, Piper’s Son

      One of the points you pose: The great question which I have not been able to answer is, “What does a woman want?”

      This was the very question which an errant knight was asked to find out in The Wife of Bath’s Tale in Chaucer’s Canterbury Collection.

      The knight found the answer – what women want most of all is maistrie – or control over their menfolk!

  33. For the entertainment / mid-morning nap of peeps here, I copy over my BTL comment on the Spectator that was “detected as spam” by someone that doesn’t like what I write:

    “I spoilt my ballot paper at the 2019 election because none of the options presented to me were remotely acceptable. It seems that I got what I voted for.

    Except that I wrote the name of my then-14-year-old muse, an extraordinarily talented classical musician and already a world class authority and an accomplished diplomat to boot. She went through a difficult period during lockdown, and has not produced anything of note for a while. however a new opera is out next year, so I will go to the premiere and hear if she has picked up again. Some youngsters burn out in their teens: Greta Thunberg openly admits that she burnt out and finds the whole campaigning game toxic now. Alma Deutscher is the opposite, and thrives on performing and had to be held back by her parents all the time. She is like a dog in an agility contest, and if she had a tail, she’d be wagging it when conducting her own music.

    Now, all three leading contenders for PM have this level of enthusiasm, but do they have her talent?

    Boris is a master of getting out of scrapes, but lost his philosophical ballast when he ditched his old wife, never really recovered from Covid (nor have I), and has this legal case hanging over him where he may well break Liz Truss’s record as the shortest serving PM, bringing yet another leadership contest. I cannot see how they could avoid a general election, since the King could reasonably point out that nobody commands the confidence of Parliament and he cannot then ask anyone to form a Government until the electorate settles the matter.

    Rishi has this problem with this inconsistency between what he professes, which seems pretty close to Hunt’s puritan miserliness, and what he does in office, where he is Father Christmas, since this is the only way to get elected. He is in this horrible bind now, since one way he alienates the markets leading to another run on gilts, and the other way he alienates the electorate and most backbenchers lose their seats.

    So that leaves Penny Mordaunt as the Compromise Candidate for Unity. She once had a spark of fun about her, but today is a bland marriage of the woke and the platitude. Anyone with any brain would just switch off, so we end up with another Government of complete non-entities. Furthermore, she is too close to Truss and May in presentation for comfort.

    The truth is that all parties need to reinvent the positive, and learn to do things well. It is like the Abuse & Safeguarding lobby that hasn’t a clue how we can all love and honour one another instead of blanketing us all in suspicion and cynicism. In that Boris has it spot on when he moans about “doomsters and gloomsters”, but he himself doesn’t know what good is.”

    1. Boris… …and a proven track record getting the big decisions right.

      What? Net Zero immediately springs to mind. Depriving both industry and the people of affordable and reliable energy is THE BIG decision that any PM worth his salt would avoid like the plague. Lack of energy deprives a nation of its ability to function as a viable entity.

      In other words:
      I want my job, in which I displayed a total lack of ability to create anything that resembled a successful outcome, back.

      1. 366467+ up ticks,

        Afternoon KtK,

        The johnson chaps mindset is
        I really believe has honest
        sexual connotations, she has a large pair of …….. and a……..

        where johnson is concerned
        say no more ,you know the score.

      2. Cheltenham racecourse has jumped on the Net Zero bandwagon; its latest wheeze, paper cups for beer. It’s more sustainable, twittered the woke bloke in charge. How about washing glasses? There’s less waste to throw away.

  36. Why there will be a General Election and why the Tories will win.

    Polling at 14% its all over for the Tories, or is it?

    Boris returns, there’s uproar in the commons, several Tory defectors and a reduced or even eliminated Tory majority.

    Then the Privileges Committee, if he loses a majority will force him to resign and stand for a by-election things just keep getting worse – right?

    How does Boris get out of that? Simples, he resigns as PM but not party leader, and calls a General Election.

    Surely Boris cannot win from 35 pts behind and parliamentary scandal with Jeremy Hunt as Chancellor on an austerity ticket to appease the markets? Read on.

    Labour

    Riding high in the polls, absolutely full of it and guaranteed to win, how on earth could they lose?

    Answer “post Brexit covid derangement syndrome”

    Labour voters have got high on the socialist giveaway from the Tories and the Labour programme is for even more, or so they think, lots of green spending, pay rises for everyone, more police, more taxes everywhere on the rich to kill business, and giveaways galore for the poor.

    Or is it? Are they going to be “responsible” Labour, tough on the unions, below inflation pay rises, no additional public spending or even tighter public spending? The markets are king afterall?

    Take either option

    1) High spending Labour

    They’ll be blown out of the water by the OBR and the markets are the markets see a huge Labour lead and the prospect of them being in government, gilt yields go through the roof, the pound tanks and Labour has to change its offer mid election and its vote collapses as the free giveaway Labour voters realise its going to be no better.

    2) Sensible Labour

    Its tax rises everywhere, tight public spending, and it can’t give those inflation busting pay rises, it can’t find the money for all it green wokery that will cost hundreds of billions and Labour voters say “Its just the Tory Party in disguise”. The hard left defect to the Greens, the left of the party screaming its not Labour.

    Either way Labour go, the expectation of their voters is for a land of milk and honey is so high that they are either going to be completely shot down by the economists or by the utter disappointment of their voters.

    And that’s before their immigration plans upset the red wall, the Green wokery by 2030 is shown to be impossible.

    I can see Boris with his “austerity” chancellor winning, and Labour being crucified on the sky high expectations they have now created.

    1. “Labour being crucified on the sky high expectations they have now created.”!!
      Are they still around? I never noticed. And they have never been a party of high expectations…

      1. Well they are 35pts ahead in the polls, going to spend £28bn a year on green wokery, then 750bn on house insulation, give everyone pay rises, more police, more nurses, more doctors, a fortune on social care.

        All while being “fiscally responsible”

        Now as Paul Daniels says “That’s magic”!

    2. “Labour being crucified on the sky high expectations they have now created.”!!
      Are they still around? I never noticed. And they have never been a party of high expectations…

    3. Right!

      More likely to follow the Kim Campbel example from Canadian politics. As a newly appointed PM she called an election and took the conservatives from a majority to non party status.

      At least there was no need to hire a big hall for a caucus meeting, the few remaining MPs could fit around a table at the nearby McDonalds.

      1. Not being o’fay with Canadian politics and what the state of their national finances were at the time it would be impossible to draw any parallels.

        The fact is, that either austerity is needed or not, if it is (and that seems to be the big money market position at the moment across Europe) then are Labour going to be able to sell austerity to their voters?

        And remember, this is the Labour party that called the Austerity of Cameron and May so damaging to the country, surely they’ll have to backtrack on that?

  37. Grizzly has posted on the subject of cooking oils. He has denigrated the oils produced from seeds and processed in vast industrial laboratories before being bottled to be sold in supermarkets. I have pondered his words and followed up links to various articles. I now use only butter, olive oil and goose or duck fat.
    I recently tried goose fat for deep frying and it worked.
    A couple of days ago I tried duck fat for deep frying. We were sitting at the kitchen table eating the first course, while the fat heated in the pan. Suddenly there was a loud bang and the liquid fat erupted from the pan over the hob and splashed on the floor. None of the other rings were on, and the fat in the pan was warm but not really very hot. The pan is stainless steel and clean.
    This was very frightening. A sudden shock. The really frightening part is that had this happened when the fat was hot, and there were other rings on, the result could have been really serious, e.g. a blazing kitchen.
    After examining the fat (fresh from Sainsbury’s jars), and the pan, there was nothing to see, just a mess to clear up.
    Can anyone here offer an possible explanation, please?

    1. Oil and water don’t mix! Either the pan wasn’t dry or there was some stock mixed in with the fat.

      1. Yes, that would explain it. However, the pan was dry. Maybe a drop or two of condensation on the jars fell into the pan when I poured in the fat?
        I must be more careful. I’ll maybe cut out deep frying for now.

    3. I am guessing that WS’s explanation (below) is probably apposite.

      I only ever deep-fry in tallow (rendered beef fat) in a deep-fat fryer — never a stove-top pan — and it makes the best fish and chips imaginable (as they do in Belgium and Yorkshire). I only use goose- or duck-fat for roasting spuds in the oven. Lard and ghee (clarified butter) are unmatched for shallow frying. Olive- or avocado-oil for salad dressings.

      As for “vegetable” cooking oils? Originally designed as an industrial lubricant, they were never meant to be used for human consumption — until, that is, the global corporations decided otherwise. Their widespread use in cooking has coincided with the rapid and unstoppable rise in modern diseases.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQmqVVmMB3k&list=WL&index=16&t=193s

    1. The MEPs are surely missing a trick. It’s all very well producing blacked out copies of the contract and complaining. But if the European Commission signed the contracts then they would have a copy of it. Wouldn’t they? So there should be the European Commission’s own evidence to see. N’est -ce pas?

    1. An Eagle – Well done, Sue!

      Birdie Three for me.
      Wordle 490 3/6
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  40. Afternoon All

    Modern Life……

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5c4ae0061145373873e0120ed047337efec5e37fa336495bffba59aecffe2ed3.jpg

    https://twitter.com/NetZeroWatch/status/1583481518416019456

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/236a111ec831234dd600d80574c5e9527217ea65474e8ae0a29c9662129ba539.png

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/68c6a66e29c26ef26d0b3a9d66a6ed2c0e391adf8233d6332b5acfdb8cb2ca83.jpg

    Ergot in the bread?? Feels like the whole world’s going mad………

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/842f5b201c606738a2283ae66133b2173a25f2c19daff3fe192c7c21a5ac2122.jpg

  42. I do not like any of the likely candidates; they are all self serving creeps. The idea of Boris Buffoon returning for another go with Mrs. Net Zero in tow, appalls me.
    After the total eff up BB has made of this country, it takes a certain amount of cheek to think he’s wanted back.
    Sod them all.

          1. Nothing much being said. Apparently she had cancer and died this week.
            I think that another candidate for election in Toronto also died this week so being a politician in Toronto is not recommended.

            Actually being in Toronto is not recommended,. Despite Trudeaus ban on legally buying or selling guns, there was yet another murder in Toronto last night. Could it be that the gangs are using guns illegally smuggled in from the US and not trying to legally license firearms.

        2. Thank you for posting – an interesting analysis of our sad and sorry state – I have saved the article for future reference.

    2. On the other hand, if BPAPM is returned, we can all take consolation from the fact that all MPs know he is a liar (not that there was any doubt but now it’s been proved) and any rules or regulations introduced in his Parliament can be safely ignored. Following in his footsteps!

      ETA: How did your visits go yesterday, weren’t you at the quacks?

      1. I did post a rant last evening. It wasn’t a good visit- he couldn’t care less. Final B12 shot and the nurse was lovely. Got drenched in torrential rain but did have a nice dinner out.
        I am making the calls from now on not the NHS.

        1. Sorry to hear that Lottie. Our NHS is an utter disgrace. I really feel we olduns have to look out for ourselves and just get on with living as much as poss. As for the B12 Alf and I take a B12 tablet each day. (Plus 5000iu vitamins D and 1000mg cod liver oil daily). They really don’t seem to want old/er patients cluttering up the surgery. Glad dinner was 😊 good.

          I’m really grateful to Geoff for this site, to be able to let off steam about any old thing is great. It’s the only soshul meeja we do other than WhatsApp to family.

          KBO Lottie and sodmthe rest of ‘em. 😉

  43. Former Chinese president Hu Jintao unexpectedly led out of party congress. 22 October 2022

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0f4d81843dbdd7482dab10f4e522766480d9859448b212131ebd2ffad3cf1823.png

    Former Chinese president Hu Jintao was unexpectedly led out of Saturday’s closing ceremony of the Communist party congress, AFP journalists on the scene witnessed.

    The frail-looking Hu, 79, initially seemed reluctant to leave the front row of politburo standing committee members in Beijing’s Great Hall of the People, where he was sitting next to President Xi Jinping.

    He had brief exchanges with Xi and the premier, Li Keqiang, after stewards spoke with him. A steward, holding Hu’s arm, led the former president out.

    A warning to the opposition! No matter who you are we can get rid of you! Coming to a country near you shortly!

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/22/former-chinese-president-hu-jintao-unexpectedly-led-out-of-party-congress

  44. Russian shelling causes major power outages in central and western Ukraine. 22 October 2022.

    Hundreds of thousands of people in central and western Ukraine woke up on Saturday to power outages and periodic bursts of gunfire, as Ukrainian air defence tried to shoot down drones and incoming missiles.

    Russia has intensified its strikes on power stations, water supply systems and other key infrastructure across the country, Associated Press reports.

    Ukraine‘s air force said in a statement today that Russia had launched “a massive missile attack” targeting “critical infrastructure,” hours after air raid sirens blared across the country. It said that it had downed 18 out of 33 cruise missiles launched from air and sea.

    I guess this is the Russian answer to the US threats!

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/oct/22/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskiy-urges-west-to-warn-russia-not-to-blow-up-dam-moscow-and-us-hold-defence-talks-live?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-6353ad838f0885fc0bbd28da#block-6353ad838f0885fc0bbd28da

    1. They’ve been checking out US tactics in Vietnam/Iraq and probably thought, if the Yanks can do it, so can we and better.

      Operation ‘Rolling Thunder’ a gradual and sustained aerial bombardment campaign conducted by the United States 2nd Air Division, U.S. Navy, and Republic of Vietnam Air Force against the Democratic Republic of Vietnam from 2 March 1965 until 2 November 1968, during the Vietnam War.
      Then there was ‘Operation Desert Fox’ a major four-day bombing campaign on Iraqi targets from 16 to 19 December 1998, by the United States and the United Kingdom.

      But that’s history and being the (‘good guys?.?) not to be confused with what those terrible Russian are doing.

      1. Yes, I know…. I deleted my post because I saw that he had posted this earlier. Unfortunately it doesn’t show as deleted until the nttl page is refreshed, although my comment prior to this disappears instantly.

        Poor snake kept in a tiny tank. Nature exacted a terrible revenge.

    2. Just how brain-dead do you need to be to remove a wild animal from its natural habitat and keep it confined in a small glass box? It should have grabbed the idiotic cow by the throat! The sooner the possession of wild animals is prohibited, worldwide, the better.

      And then I woke up!

        1. Beware of men with ponytails trying to look macho and remember under every ponies tail there is an arsehole.

      2. I was shocked at the size of the tank for the poor creature. And I agree with the rest of your comment. I removed the post because I saw that Rik had posted this earlier.

  47. How many British prime ministers retired from the job because they wanted to do so rather than because they had to do so?

  49. A big round “thank you” to all those who replied to my query on exploding fat. I’ll keep fat and water carefully separate in the future. I’ll be a good boy…

    2. Too right !

      If you are heating fat in a pan use a timer to remind you. Also a thermostat to check temperature.

  51. More on their way and the Government is preparing a warm welcome rather than deterring the invaders. Any further promises from LibLabCon on restrictions to immigration, legal or otherwise should be discounted immediately. We are locked in to the UN/WEF future until and unless the people understand that the three leading parties are not working for us.

    https://twitter.com/_HenryBolton/status/1583552811551186944

      1. I didn’t know that the Marks Tey Motel had fallen. I did catch an article on the radio about another hotel in Essex was cancelling engagements and dinners etc but the proprietors reacted and said that wasn’t the case. When I heard the story my first thought was immigrant invasion imminent. At this rate there’ll be nothing left for holidaymakers next year.

  52. Right, off to Sainsbury’s as we heard the grand monsters are coming tomorrow. Was going to go the Coop last evening but the weather was so dreadful, we left it.
    To add to it, granddaughter has been diagnosed with coeliac disease so have to look out some gluten free grub. I need a trip to the shops like I need a hole in the head but needs must.
    See you later, alligators.

      1. I am too exhausted to bake these days- was in bed last night before 9.
        Bought some regular stuff and some gluten free sausages and chicken nuggets as recommended by her mum. I shall run everything past mum before cooking.
        I indulged myself and bought another 2 bags of fruit gums. Yum.

  53. Split on Tory Right as Priti Patel backs Boris Johnson but Lord Frost endorses Rishi Sunak
    The former home secretary did not endorse a candidate during the summer Conservative leadership contest
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/10/22/boris-johnson-rishi-sunak-priti-patel-tory-leadership-race/

    I can understand that Lord Frost is pretty pissed off with the fact that Boris Johnson undermined him when he was doing his best not to surrender on Northern Ireland or British fishing. However in this current business Frost should have remained neutral rather than supporting the Blob’s candidate. I very much agree with this BTL post.

    BTL

    This election is, above all, about democracy. I do not much care for either Mordaunt or Johnson but I completely abominate the WEF machine which seems to be behind Sunak.

    Boris Johnson destroyed Lord Frost’s attempt to keep control of our fishing waters and not yield on Northern Ireland and I fear that Sunak’s masters in Davos will be telling him to backtrack on Brexit as much as he can.

    If Lord Frost still truly believes in Brexit he should join the Reform Party and make a bid to become the deputy leader under Richard Tice.

    1. Priti Awful is always wrong about everything – so her “view” can be ignored as irrelevant.

  54. Gawd help us. The UK does a great job of feeding its own immigration machine…

    Barrister says she became legal expert while in Home Office immigration detention

    Aderonke Apata says she has Home Office to thank for career as she fought removal to Nigeria

    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/46f5a7e4b1dfdd8bb5cce7f95373a92c8549ac9f/0_363_1080_648/master/1080.jpg?width=700&quality=45&dpr=2&s=none
    Aderonke Apata was called to the bar on 13 October. ‘Without what the Home Office did to me I wouldn’t be a barrister today,’ she says.

    Sat 22 Oct 2022 07.00 BST
    A refugee who has just been called to the bar says she has the Home Office to thank for her career after she became an amateur legal expert while locked up in a detention centre.

    Aderonke Apata, 55, from Nigeria, said she was proud to take part in a ceremony last week where she, along with dozens of other newly qualified barristers, were formally called to the bar.

    Apata was almost forcibly removed from the UK on a Home Office charter flight to Nigeria in January 2013 after her asylum claim, based on the fact that as a lesbian who had been persecuted in Nigeria her life would be in danger if she was returned there, was rejected.
    *
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    *
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/oct/22/barrister-says-she-became-legal-expert-while-in-home-office-immigration-detention

    1. and guess whose side she’ll be on – making a mint in the process. Big money in immigration both legal and illegal

      1. Time to leave the ECHR and the ECJ and repeal the Human Rights Act.

        It’s the only solution. Ms Apata will find that the cases she wants are few and far between, if that happens.

        Then I woke up…

    2. “….life would be in danger if she was returned….”

      I wonder if a native British person could use that in reverse – because the NHS is SO bad ….”My life would be in danger if I stayed…”

  55. Gawd help us. The UK does a great job of feeding its own immigration machine…

    Barrister says she became legal expert while in Home Office immigration detention

    Aderonke Apata says she has Home Office to thank for career as she fought removal to Nigeria

    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/46f5a7e4b1dfdd8bb5cce7f95373a92c8549ac9f/0_363_1080_648/master/1080.jpg?width=700&quality=45&dpr=2&s=none
    Aderonke Apata was called to the bar on 13 October. ‘Without what the Home Office did to me I wouldn’t be a barrister today,’ she says.

    Sat 22 Oct 2022 07.00 BST
    A refugee who has just been called to the bar says she has the Home Office to thank for her career after she became an amateur legal expert while locked up in a detention centre.

    Aderonke Apata, 55, from Nigeria, said she was proud to take part in a ceremony last week where she, along with dozens of other newly qualified barristers, were formally called to the bar.

    Apata was almost forcibly removed from the UK on a Home Office charter flight to Nigeria in January 2013 after her asylum claim, based on the fact that as a lesbian who had been persecuted in Nigeria her life would be in danger if she was returned there, was rejected.
    *
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    *
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/oct/22/barrister-says-she-became-legal-expert-while-in-home-office-immigration-detention

  56. Just been browsing through some photos on the Daily Fail on Line. What looked like boat loads of desperate refugees fleeing the persecution and poverty of France turned out to be today’s results from the Premier and Championship Football divisions. How is one supposed to know the difference nowadays?

  57. Matt Chorley’s column in The Grimes today:

    Enough. That’s enough now. Twenty years ago this month I began training as a journalist; 17 years ago I started working in parliament. Back then I met clever people trying to do the right thing. Grown-ups in both parties. I was impressed. Intimidated.

    And now? Stupid, stupid people doing the wrong, wrong thing. I’ve known Liz Truss on and off since long before the cheese speech. Not as much fun as she thought she was, not as good on Instagram as journalists who only used Instagram for work imagined. Not a bad person. But a bad politician. And lo . . .

    I feel strangely vindicated. And sad. And a bit sick. Vindicated because my gut told me that Theresa May wasn’t the second coming, that Boris Johnson was a flawed busted flush and that Truss was over-confident with not a lot to be over-confident about. I’m sad that in order to satisfy a few Thatcher fanboys in pinstripe suits, the rest of the country had to indulge in this daft experiment. And I feel sick about the fact that while Truss was orchestrating a pointless fracking vote, there was a woman on ITV News saying that using a toaster was a luxury she couldn’t afford.

    And now Truss is, fittingly, toast. Delivering her resignation speech with all of the emotional connection of a toaster: pop-up, blank face, crumbs. She was a quitter not a fighter after all. Turns out it’s not good if the prime minister is being outpolled by the rate of inflation.

    The great offices have been demeaned. Now a “former home secretary” could mean either Roy Jenkins, who decriminalised homosexuality, or Suella Braverman, who had a summer job shouting at tofu. “Former foreign secretary” could be Lord Carrington resigning over the invasion of the Falklands or (soon) James Cleverly, who spent the week insisting that Truss got the “fundamentals” right. (Less of the funda and more of the other.) “Former chancellor” could mean either Nigel Lawson’s six years mastering the economy, or Kwasi Kwarteng’s six weeks crashing it.

    There are millions of people in this country today scared that they can’t pay their mortgage or rent as a direct result of what Truss did. There are millions who thought their energy bills were fixed long-term but now aren’t. Millions who thought that after the disaster-drama of Boris Johnson, a grown-up — or at least a well-programmed robot version of one — was now in charge. And yet we are supposed to just shrug off a prime minister with a shorter shelf life than a Fruit Corner yoghurt. Who spent longer in the contest trying to become prime minister than she spent as prime minister. Who lasted less time than the BBC soap opera Eldorado. And then we are supposed to entertain the idea of a Johnson comeback. They can’t be serious. They literally can’t. They are incapable of seriousness.

    Enough, as they say, is enough. Few long for a Starmer government. And perhaps few ever will. So maybe the sweet release of an asteroid, a nuclear war or a Meta-funded brainwashing experiment overseen by Nick Clegg might save us. But the idea that we might again take seriously Tories like Andrew Bridgen, Suella Braverman, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Kwasi Kwarteng, Thérèse Coffey or indeed Boris Johnson? Enough.”

    1. “There are millions of people in this country today scared that they can’t pay their mortgage or rent as a direct result of what Truss did.”

      No. She was the one left holding the package containing the ticking bomb, parcelled up by others. She unwrapped it.

  58. Matt Chorley’s column in The Grimes today:

    Enough. That’s enough now. Twenty years ago this month I began training as a journalist; 17 years ago I started working in parliament. Back then I met clever people trying to do the right thing. Grown-ups in both parties. I was impressed. Intimidated.

    And now? Stupid, stupid people doing the wrong, wrong thing. I’ve known Liz Truss on and off since long before the cheese speech. Not as much fun as she thought she was, not as good on Instagram as journalists who only used Instagram for work imagined. Not a bad person. But a bad politician. And lo . . .

    I feel strangely vindicated. And sad. And a bit sick. Vindicated because my gut told me that Theresa May wasn’t the second coming, that Boris Johnson was a flawed busted flush and that Truss was over-confident with not a lot to be over-confident about. I’m sad that in order to satisfy a few Thatcher fanboys in pinstripe suits, the rest of the country had to indulge in this daft experiment. And I feel sick about the fact that while Truss was orchestrating a pointless fracking vote, there was a woman on ITV News saying that using a toaster was a luxury she couldn’t afford.

    And now Truss is, fittingly, toast. Delivering her resignation speech with all of the emotional connection of a toaster: pop-up, blank face, crumbs. She was a quitter not a fighter after all. Turns out it’s not good if the prime minister is being outpolled by the rate of inflation.

    The great offices have been demeaned. Now a “former home secretary” could mean either Roy Jenkins, who decriminalised homosexuality, or Suella Braverman, who had a summer job shouting at tofu. “Former foreign secretary” could be Lord Carrington resigning over the invasion of the Falklands or (soon) James Cleverly, who spent the week insisting that Truss got the “fundamentals” right. (Less of the funda and more of the other.) “Former chancellor” could mean either Nigel Lawson’s six years mastering the economy, or Kwasi Kwarteng’s six weeks crashing it.

    There are millions of people in this country today scared that they can’t pay their mortgage or rent as a direct result of what Truss did. There are millions who thought their energy bills were fixed long-term but now aren’t. Millions who thought that after the disaster-drama of Boris Johnson, a grown-up — or at least a well-programmed robot version of one — was now in charge. And yet we are supposed to just shrug off a prime minister with a shorter shelf life than a Fruit Corner yoghurt. Who spent longer in the contest trying to become prime minister than she spent as prime minister. Who lasted less time than the BBC soap opera Eldorado. And then we are supposed to entertain the idea of a Johnson comeback. They can’t be serious. They literally can’t. They are incapable of seriousness.

    Enough, as they say, is enough. Few long for a Starmer government. And perhaps few ever will. So maybe the sweet release of an asteroid, a nuclear war or a Meta-funded brainwashing experiment overseen by Nick Clegg might save us. But the idea that we might again take seriously Tories like Andrew Bridgen, Suella Braverman, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Kwasi Kwarteng, Thérèse Coffey or indeed Boris Johnson? Enough.”

  59. The Conservatives may be about to choose their last ever prime minister. 22 october 2022.

    The Conservative Party is in free fall, and it is not yet clear if it has a parachute. This week, my polling firm has the party on just 14 per cent of the national vote. This is simply the lowest share of support for the Conservatives in the history of British polling. Today, with Labour on 53 per cent, the party is weaker than it was in the aftermath of the ERM crisis in 1992, or on the eve of its historic defeat to Tony Blair in 1997, or amid the depths of austerity, or even during partygate, or the mass resignations that brought down Boris Johnson.

    I have simply never seen numbers like this in my lifetime. Were they replicated at a general election it would be an extinction-level event, worse even than the total humiliation under John Major. An entire generation of Tories would be wiped out. Only a handful would survive. And it is not clear how the party would recover after such an event. Today, just 6 per cent of the under-50s say they plan to vote Tory in the future.

    Bring it on! Lol!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/21/conservatives-may-choose-last-ever-prime-minister/

    2. Yep, bring it on and cleanse this augean stable of the remainer shite within the Tory party.

      I for one will be hope to be able to be voting for a ‘Reclaim’ or ‘Reform’ party candidate. Get together you idiots, or just remain as vote-splitting parties.

  61. I presume the paucity of new comments is due to every one ‘Going for their Tea’.

    “You’ll have had your tea?”

        1. Have you not listened to The Doings of Hamish and Dougal? Barry Cryer and Graeme Garden. Very amusing. They begin every 15 min episode with “You’ll have had your tea.”
          We love it.

          1. Link please Ann, never heard of it, but lived in Scotland, near Aberdeen, long enough to know of the phrase.

    3. Wow, that produced another 6 comments – not all about this but heaven for those who’ve spent a long time scrolling up and down for a new point of view.

  62. 36646+ up ticks,

    Gerard Batten
    @gjb2021
    ·
    4h
    Sunak & his supporters are out & out Globalist WEF servants.

    The opposite of free markets is top down centralised control of command economies – & they always end up with economic collapse – but not before every means of repression has been used to try & make them work.

    And Elwood & his crowd are not naive idealistic communists on a wrong course – they are cynical advocates of a new serfdom where the international financial institutions & corporations are the new aristocracy.
    English Citizen
    @AnonUKCitizen
    ·
    19h
    Not even trying to hide it 👀👇🏼

    https://gettr.com/post/p1v6jfzbe55

    2. Did the EU and its flag, really get born to the tune of of the Horst Wessel song?

      If it did it was very prescient.

  65. That’s me for today. It was gorgeous weather. Lunch in the garden – then a three mile walk among the fields.

    Have a jolly evening playing nicely.

    A demain.

        1. Since you are so ‘up’ with current technology, I’m guessing at a silly fitbit Iphone, one wears on one’s wrist.

  66. Apparently Johnson now has 100 supporters though not declared ones – or so the DT says.

    I enjoyed this rather cynical BTL:

    If she hurries up Liz Truss has just got time to put her hat into the ring!.

    1. When I was studying Antony and Cleopatra for “A” level as an adolescent I remember my English teacher saying that nobody understood politics better than Shakespeare. These lines delivered by Octavius Caesar are incredibly apt considering what is going on now. Boris Johnson, the ebbed man, is now wanted back again by the vacillating plebs now that he has gone even though he was pretty useless first time round!

      It hath been taught us from the primal state
      That he which is was wished until he were,
      And the ebbed man, neer loved till neer worth love,
      Comes deared by being lacked. This common body,
      Like to a vagabond flag upon the stream,
      Goes to and back, lackeying the varying tide
      To rot itself with motion      .

  67. Unless Boris:

    1) Distances himself from (his conjugal?) Carbon Zero policy, and
    2) Commits to radical reduction of illegal immigrant invasion.

    I shall not vote for him – nor Wishy-Washy Sunak.

    I shall seek (perhaps in vain?) an alternative Brexit/ ROC party …

    1. Given the opportunity, wouldn’t vote for Sunak anyway. How much skin does he have in the game, green card and rich-as-a-bastard wife? Nope. He can FOAD.

  71. Another kerbstone step laid up the garden, involving shifting a dozen and a half buckets of soil.

    I’m trying to ignore the news, it’s too depressing.

    1. I’m ignoring your tales of wo about yer garden, soil, cement and kerbstones, Bob.

      All of a sudden, the Westminster Pantomime has become relatively fascinating (sarc.)!

    2. Rather you than me, Bob. New place (OK – I’ve been here for two years now, but it’s relatively new) happily has a small, level garden.

      Main problem is heavy clay soil. Killed off the lawn last year, and rotovated 1.5 m³ of soil improver in, before laying turf. Laid in November, it needed mowing by February. It endured the drought this summer, and still needs mowing more than once a week. It seems that – after nottl – I’ve created another monster…

      1. I’ve another 7 stones to lay, then I’ll have to shift an even greater load of soil to level off the top of the steps.
        I need to do more to the wall to give me somewhere to put the stuff!

  72. 80% of respondents on a NYT poll said that the media are contributing to a threat to democracy! Good to see the penny is dropping.

    Nottlers will recall the reports on the subject of funeral directors’ observations last year in UK that attracted mass media smears of the solid man who reported. Nothing has changed except the range of such reports internationally, and of course the deepening certainty as to the cause.

    https://tarableu.substack.com/p/95-percent-of-corpses-had-received?sd=pfn

  73. I was once Vaccine Hesitant, I now have Vaccine Repugnance. I once had mild Government mistrust, I now have Government Revulsion. I once had Doctor Trust, I now have Doctor Aversion. I once has Police Respect, I now have Police Animosity. I’ll never go back to what I was, ever.

    2. Me too, Johnny.
      And, what jerks my chain, is those bastards have made me, once a quite nice, trusting lad, nasty, cynical, distrustful and bad tempered.
      I’ll not forgive them for that.

  75. 366467+ up ticks,

    We as a nation cannot surely sustain this,
    things need bringing to a head rapidly all a General Election will achieve is to maybe swap one set of political rear exits for another set of political rear exits but overseeing political rear exits are assured to be the outcome, guaranteed.

    A General strike would be more apt led by, may one suggest, hotel staff.

    Many of the indigenous are going to get the tin tack anyway.

    Net Immigration to Soar to 300,000 This Year Thanks to BoJo’s Post-Brexit Policies: Report

    People power did something very right long ago have we lost the art? past time for a decent peoples RESET.

  76. Goodnight, Gentlefolk and God bless. I’ll see you again when the morning’s light awakens me.

      1. I’m knackered also but trying to stay awake for a Morecambe and Wise thingy on BBC 4. Doubt I’ll make it.

        1. Hope it’s good! I’m for bed in a mo or two, just watching lumberjack championships on’t telly – my God, those axes must be sharp! 17 seconds to chop through a tree trunk! Looks like Sweden are ahead!
          I never found M&W funny. Their humour just passed me by.

          1. The New Zealand Axe Team used to perform at the East of England Show and chop through the tree trunk faster than a chap standing adjacent with a chainsaw.

            I noticed their axes had separate shiny cutting edges to the heavy steel axe head, secured with screws. I assumed these were specially hardened and sharpened blades.

          2. Now they have moved to the one-man manual saws. Those racing saws are vicious! It’s amazing the cutting, but as you mention, a bit longer time than the axe work.
            Most impressive!

          5. Yep. It was always a close run match.

            The last time we visited the East of England Show, near Peterborough, the show had been kidnapped by the horsey types: Jacinda is riding Peter Pan sort of crap, the blacksmiths shoeing horses had vanished and the main arena show was of synchronised tractors ‘dancing’.

            One compensation was the bandstand where a group of youngsters were performing Holst.

            Jesus wept.

    1. Neil Oliver monologues always fills me with hope. I noticed that thankfully he is now being embraced by commentators in America. I posted the same with a link a day or so ago.

      Russell Brand, not a patch on Neil Oliver, has established a presence on Rumble. I trust Neil Oliver will be able to do the same.

  78. Evening, all. Have had a fairly depressing day for the future of the country; went to No 1 Radio School (RAF Cosford) for an AGM. Posters everywhere showing the tinted and claiming that homophobic acts would not be tolerated (whatever happened to “don’t ask, don’t tell?) and promoting LGBQERTY, then when I came home and switched on the racing there was a big piece about some black stable lass who won an amateur race. It wasn’t that which upset me but the way that it was reported she’d said, “when I look round the paddock, I don’t see people like me” and all the presenters fell over themselves to say we needed diversity, and how awful that was. I was screaming, “Well if you want to see people like you in the parade ring, go to Africa – they’ll almost certainly be all black there!”* Would they be telling African countries that they needed to be more diverse and employ more white people? Of course not. Then, to cap it all, Irish trained horses won most of the races. It bodes ill for the Festival (over jumps) and the Classics (on the flat) next year 🙁
    *I may have deleted a few expletives there.

    1. Know what you mean, Conners.
      A few years ago we had a visit from SWMBOs younger brother & his stick-insect girlfriend – she mentioned how white the place was. Not wanting to be rude, I managed to not say “If you went to Ikeja (Lagos suburb), would you be remarking how black the place is?”.
      Wish I’d not held back now.

      2. I think that’s the trouble; we’re too polite to speak out. We’re Europeans living in Europe. It’s OUR country. If they don’t like it, they should go somewhere more to their liking, not try to change us and our way of life and culture. It isn’t as though they don’t have racecourses in Africa.

        1. If you told these people to eff orf and find a place they would fit in, they would soon quieten down.

          1. I wish people would. The same stable lass was interviewed at length again today on the racing programme. She was shown kneeling after she’d won (and a few idiots copied her). I switched off. I want to watch the horses, not virtue signallers.

    3. ‘Evening, Connors, I trained at Cosford between 28th January 1960 and passed out as an Air Radar Mechanic in July 1961. I do remember that two guys, caught in the bath together, were sentenced to 3 months in the Detention Block for homosexual acts and subsequently discharged the service.

      What a difference to today’s ‘Serice’. If you ain’t black( brown) or LGBTQWERTUIOP they don’t want you. All a bit MontyPythonesque.

      https://youtu.be/W2jgrGtiYHE

  79. Mother-in-Law fell down our well a week ago, but she’s fine.
    She stopped shouting for help a couple of days ago.

  82. UK: Editor of Muslim news site says ‘Secular democracy has failed in the UK. Time for an Islamic state?’
    OCT 20, 2022 11:00 AM BY ROBERT SPENCER14 COMMENTS

    Secular democracy hasn’t failed in the UK. Particular politicians have failed the British people by lying about their true intentions and being beholden to globalist socialist interests rather than devoted to the well-being of their own citizens. But Roshan Salih has articulated a desire that many Muslims in the UK share, while the clueless and compromised British government pretends that there is no such group of Muslims in the country, and that there is no incompatibility between Sharia and Britain’s secular republican government.

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2022/10/uk-editor-of-muslim-news-site-says-secular-democracy-has-failed-in-the-uk-time-for-an-islamic-state

    1. This is no secret. The avowed aim of Islam is conversion of the entire world. Muslims do not care if it is a compliant or enforced conversion. To them, all non-Muslims are worthless. To this extent, there is no ‘moderate’ version of Islam. There is only Islam.

      1. The avowed aim of Islam is conversion subjugation of the entire world.
        Bit more accurate – apols for any offence.

        1. The word “Islam” means “submission to the will of God.” In other words – there is no other way.

          1. Indeed it does and the cult should be referred to by the English word, not the Arabic one. More people might see the reality if that were the case.

    2. I, for one, Maggie, do not believe that Rishi whatever you call him, is the the leader that this country needs, He is a billinonaire Indian, whose own country follows a budget, dependant upon British Foreign Aid to subsidise its Nuclear and Space agenda, regardless of its starving millions, its poor, almost abyssmal millions with the poorest infrasructure in the world. We are never going to produce any formidable world leader from the ‘stinking’ files of our current ‘Conservative Party’

  83. SIR – I am disgusted by how the Conservative Party has conducted itself in office over the past few years.

    As another dreadful PM departs, it is increasingly clear that the party itself is the problem – an unholy alliance of closet Liberal Democrats, disingenuous careerists, a handful of true conservatives who lack the competence to deliver their agenda and a healthy scattering of cranks.

    The broken promises, the lies, the corruption and the clear contempt for the public make the party unfit for office. I struggle to fathom how many Tory MPs were selected to stand for Parliament by their local associations.

    As far as I can tell, the only coherent thing the party seems to value is the maintenance of its own power. There is no reason to believe things will change under the next leader. The country needs an election to bring this chaos to an end. I look forward to a day when a party I can support emerges from the ashes of this one.

    Connor Doherty
    Birmingham

    1. Percival Sparkins
      50 MIN AGO
      What is wrong with some of these witless correspondents? Boris Johnson did not win – the vote was to keep Corbyn out; he lied, deceived, failed to deliver Brexit in any commensurable sense and tied us into net zero. As for Ukraine – yes he gave them arms and made self-promotional visits there but that’s hardly an entitlement to Premiership. He is, and was, a deeply flawed individual and a political disaster. That anyone, especially the MPs who threw him out, should even consider him for office is beyond belief. For God’s sake Tories grow up and unite – if you can find someone credible to lead the party. EDITED

      1. Sending arms to the Ukraine should disqualify the idiot from power in my view! They can’t find anybody credible because there is nobody like that in Westminster.

    2. The Tories need to find a leader prepared to honour their election commitments. Boris could do all of this were he to ditch the New Green Deal (tell his missus to shut her gob), stand up to EU bullying (tell Ursula Fonda Lying to take a run and jump), tell Biden/Obama that they are toast (and that Trump is the man you will back), stop all overseas aid (and stop shovelling billions down the throat of Zelensky and his corrupt country).

      Cancel HS2 (and halt any compensation payments to those pushing the stupid project), round up all illegal migrants (and arrange pronto for their return to their countries of origin), shut down the UK Supreme Court (and return the top lawyers to the Law Lords as was). Remove the UK from the UCHR. Stop payments to the discredited WHO and exit the UN Migration Compact.

      Take control of the Bank of England (sack Andrew Bailey).

      Do these things for starters and you are welcome back.

  84. Off to bed- bracing for a monster invasion tomorrow.
    Just watched the Andrew Preview M&W scene… gotta to be one of the best and funniest.
    See you sometime tomorrow.
    Sweet dreams Y’all.

    2. Yep; one of the best. Lotty.

      Eric M. was a near neighbour in Harpenden c. 1970; met him in Safeways and the Fox and Hound on Sundays. Surprisingly, he was a deeply serious guy in ‘real life’.

    4. When I was at Hindhead, our ‘umble village church choir included one Dr Sheila Cooper. Better known as Sheila Armstrong, who was no stranger to opera. She worked with Preview, sorry, Previn. And was in the studio when M&W (that’s Morecambe & Wise, Tom 😉) recorded a radio version for Radio 2…

  85. Racing motorsaws now… jayzuz, they can cut!
    Three straight slices of a decent sized 18″ tree in a gnats under 6 seconds, starting from engine off. Wow!

  87. Goodnight, all. Church parade tomorrow. Can’t wait to see what the rectorette is going to do to mess up the service this time.

  90. Yo, peeps. Home from a marvellous concert at one of our village churches (via the pub, obviously).. Around this time of year, Imperial College Chamber Choir have a weekend away, hosted by a local family, to do rehearsal, bonding and stuff. No sign of Neil Ferguson, so that’s good. Clearly, the freshers had some previous singing experience, but the choir in its current form had managed less than 24 hours rehearsal together.

    They have stuff on YouTube if you’re interested…

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