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Good Moening All. 10C Heavy rain.
Moening Johnny, a cloudy and damp12C
With spells of heavychecking?
rain now easing, it was just what was needed.
Raining here too
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Which Starmer will negate by signing up to everything the EU comes up with.
Good morning, chums. And thanks, Geoff, for today's new NoTTLe site.
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Morning everyone.
Bon jour Mademoiselle Minty. Coment vas tu aujourd'hui?
406179+ up ticks,
Morning Each,
I don't regard this racist in being the truth in the black and white issue, but there it
https://x.com/GBNEWS/status/1926002350285582762
407179+ up ticks,
O2O,
Knock up another Mulberry Harbour out of plastic waste, outside our waters.
Shoot them in the dinghies.
Just stop all the bennies and hotels and they'd stop coming. Lock them in camps instead of hotels.
They tried that in Oz, built camps on the islands off the North coast. The invaders set the camps alight.
They'd only endanger themselves. I don't think Oz has much of an invader problem these days.
They did the right thing and stopped them landing. Put them on islands, this almost put a stop to the invasion.
A lot of them are from Somalia and traveled via Muslim countries by boat.
There are areas in the country where Muslims have caused problems, the Cronulla riots 2005 South of Sydney were caused by Muslim men, they were assaulting local girls on the beach. The beach life guards step in and it all kicked off.
The traveler’s use to stop over and refuel in South Asia and restocked they carried on until they turned up on the west coast of Oz.
They have been relocatated all over. But are still causing problems.
It’s all been part of the world take over by them. One way or another they will succeed if western society doesn’t do the obvious. Stop them in their tracks.
Then export them back to France. Let the EU deal with their problem.
Quite. Process them at sea. Davy Jones Locker.
Shoot them in the goolies.
Process them using a 50 cal.
Morning All 🙂😊
At last puddles in the road. And now our grass will be as green as other people's grass.🤗
This horrible mob in Wastemonster now are seeming to be enjoying having British taxpayers and other indigenous citizens in a financial headlock. And squeezing harder by the day. When will they realise that stealing peoples hard earned money and their savings will never cover the costs of their own terrible and deliberate ongoing harm.
Good morning, everyone.
Good morning.
Good morning good people!
A dull and damp start to the day, the overnight rain, of which we had a useful amount, has stopped and it is forecast to partially clear to cloudy with sunny intervals. A tad above 14½°C on the thermometer.
Must be a bank holiday.
What is a bank ? 🤔
When all the banks have closed I guess we'll have to re-name the holidays that the State graciously gives us. I can't think of another option – any nottlers got ideas?
One month to midsummer. Drizzle and 9.5 degrees outside. Wore a jumper yesterday, saw a bloke in a scarf and coat on the train, going to find my jumper shortly, I'm cold!
Looks damp outside so I think we must have had a bit of drizzle .
'Morning All
Weekend medley
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The rent boy one is a good one.
Indeed!
Starmer with a burning desire for a new playmate?
Well, he and his family all right for glasses, posh threads, spare London flats, bespoke pension arrangements etc…. so now he can afford to indulge in his real fancies.
Well, he and his family all right for glasses, posh threads, spare London flats, bespoke pension arrangements etc…. so now he can afford to indulge in his real fancies.
The toaster reflects 100% my brother's issues with "tech".
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We've cat 6 throughout the walls, fibre runs everywhere, a total of 6 high strength access points for the garage and garden and inside.
Nothing bloody works.
Try a cat flap?
Morning all! Slept a bit late today. 😴
Fb just told me it's dear old Tom's birthday. 💕
I miss the old bugger.
I do too.
Letter and BTL Response.
It appears that it's been the objective of Islam to destroy or take over the countries occupied by white people of different religious beliefs for centuries.
Spain is a typical example. And it took at least three hundred years to get the Islamics out. And they are creeping back again.
Simon Sebag Montifiore TV programmes Blood and Gold.
There is a British Muslim frequently seen on TV by the name of Al-Andalus, he is not Spanish or descended from Arabs that occupied Spain. He has taken the name to declare Islamic intentions and as an assertion that Spain belongs to the Muslims. Always check an Arabic surname because it often is much more than just a name.
PS. Don't turn your back when checking a Muslim's name.
I can't help but remember seeing all those 'ordinary, innocent Palestinians' cheering in the streets of Gaza immediately after the rape, torture and murder of Israeli festival-goers on 7th October 2023.
Good morning, all and a very Happy Empire Day to you. As promised, grey and raining.
Very symbolic. With an emphasis on the last five letters.
words, I think you meant…
b o l i c ……… ssssss
Oh – how very sophisticated!
Empire Day – 24 May – was a celebration of the British Empire that was held for many years in the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, and other countries. It began to be celebrated in the late 19th century and took place every year on the date of Queen Victoria’s birthday. In the 1950s, however, the British Empire began to decline as countries gained their independence, and the day was eventually renamed Commonwealth Day.
The day was designed as a way for the people of the British Empire to show their patriotism by celebrating the fact that the empire was strong and united. The motto of Empire Day was “One king, one flag, one fleet, one empire.”
Don't try that today – You will be arrested for hurty words and thrown in jail to rot!
We have RAIN!!!!!!
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Singing in it…..
🎵..and dancing…in the rain… Do be doo do🎵
Best ever TV ad:
https://youtu.be/TL3y-DN_8VQ
Hadn't seen that before – thank you!
Mind, he'd be dome for drinking on the job now…
We used to call that roadsign "Man having trouble with an umbrella".
I think we had a spot or two of drizzle earlier on.
Good morning m'dear.
We had rain.
And a bit more forecast for tonight.
So many songs about the rain.
The Everly Brothers: Crying in the Rain; the Cascades: Rhythm of the Rain; : José Feliciano: Listen to the Pouring Rain..
But on the flipside of Buddy Holly's last single : It doesn't Matter Any More was one of my favourites:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLeZof1wGps
I drove through drizzle on the way here. Dry now.
Good Morning!
Is 2 (or 3) QT Starmer being, er, hounded, by a gang of feral rent boys? If so, what do they have, or have had, against him? Frederick Edward discusses all this, the subject the MSM are ignoring, in his Why are Ukrainian hotties harassing poor Sir Keir?
Today in Tempest and Triumph – Commodore Anson’s Voyage Around the World and the Betrayal of Britain’s Sailors we tell the never-ending tale of betrayal and the willingness of government to sacrifice the lives of brave men. This story, if it involved Americans, would have been made into a Hollywood blockbuster, It has daring raids, incredible fortitude, unimaginable suffering, unparalleled seamanship, treasure galleons and discovery. It's part of our history and we can learn a lot from it.
Energy Watch: Over the last 24 hours: Britain's electric power was sourced from Gas, 20.6%; Solar, 10.6%: Wind 23.7%; Imports, 16.4%; Biomass, 8.7% and Nuclear, 17.7%.
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I have no idea whether Starmer is a degenerate sexual deviant or not.
What I do know is that the sooner he is hounded out of office in disgrace the better and it is the MSM's duty not to shy away from the truth if they come across something disgustingly repulsive about the prime minister.
If Starmer buggers off and is replaced by Rayner, it will be a clear case — for the country — of out of the frying pan, into the cesspit.
The level of destruction that Starmer and his minions plan to do will put the UK completely beyond repair.
Good morning. With regards to the headline, communists always despise the productive class.
Humid.
Sir Jasper – No To Nanny – Tom
(Born 24th May 1944)
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We often think of you with fondness!
Fb reminded me too. He's much missed.
I made a comment, "RIP, Much Missed" and noted that there still appear to be some unaware of his death.
I’ll have a look.
Thanks for that, Rastus! Thinking of you, Tom!
My paternal grandmother would have been 125 today! Happy Empire Day!
Good morning all,
A bit of drizzle during the night , no rain this morning , feels colder than 15c .
Son is not running in Park run this morning , he is booked in to run in a longer race this evening! That will be very testing as the breeze is quite strong at present and will become windier as the day progresses.
And in the fields corn sways with metallic clicks
Whilst man hammers nails in man
High on his crucifix.
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Freedom fighter..
Jihadi..
Ajit Atwal
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As British as a chicken karahi curry..
New Derby mayor makes knife crime top priority after friend's death
Councillor Ajit Atwal is on a mission to improve public safety in Derby
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I'm afraid I could not resist it. https://x.com/BeardedBob7282/status/1926196930029170695
There's a question over at FSB as to the religion this man follows.
Apparently, he's a Sikh.
That is the claim I read over at FSB, there’s a decent link provided supplying background context.
3000 actively monitored muslim nutters.
26,000 more on another dindu savage 2nd tier list.
That's 30,000 violent savages wanting to kill Britons the security services are watching. Hang the vermin. Catapult them out of the country. Brand them publicly. Shoot the swine. I don't care, I don't want them here, wasting security time.
That looks well buggered. Oops.
Indeed bang goes their No Claims Bonus!
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Those in the public sector may think they are hard done by but the Oomigoolie bird has been pecking away at those working in the private sector for many years.
The nurses who treated me were amazing. They were the part of the NHS that we need and want. But I can't help but think why was I in for 4 days? Why wasn't I in for 2?
We were lucky that we didn't lose a huge amount of money, but I know that every call I couldn't respond to cost us £250 and we had seven. 2 missed SLA.
Effluent like Raynor and Lammy don't understand that if you don't do the job, you don't get paid. They just take, regardless. I despise them.
I have never worked in the public sector but until the age of 42 I worked as an employee so at the end of each month money arrived in my account.
When we moved to France we had spent the year before moving living on one of our salaries and saving the other so that we had enough money on which to live until our business provided us with enough to do so.
Nobody in politics should be in politics unless they have also had to live for some time with the fact that they don't make any money directly and independently from their labours then they would not receive a penny piece.
In the UK, registered nurses are paid by the National Health Service (NHS) based on their skills and responsibilities. The average salary for Registered Nurse in UK in the year of 2024 is £36,302.
The full basic State Pension is £176.45 per week. £9,174 per year.
And I only get tax relief on about half of that. Is it possible to get a part time nursing job at 81?
They'll need lots of people to deal with "assisted dying…"
They could start a lottery 😉
Squeeze harder.
3.6 is a lot of money. OK, it might not be what they deserve but as I've always ranted, the problem isn't pay. The problem is the massive cost of living created by the state.
It's very, very simple: if taxes are high and bills high because of taxes, people have less money. As the state continues to make our lives harder and raises the pay of public sector workers it takes more and more money out of the productive economy further destroying that.
Big fat state doesn't seem to realise just how difficult it is to continue to operate under their socialist insanity.
Be careful with those – there is a young man from Ukraine who handles them far more gently!
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Also reminds me of the story of the young couple who were having a coffee at a café with their little baby.
The baby managed to grab a 50p piece from the table and swallowed it. He then choked and went purple in the face. The couple were frantic, slapped the child on the back but he went purpler and purpler in the face.
A smartly dressed woman at the next table came over, picked up the baby and squeezed him hard by the testicles. The baby immediately disgorged the 50 p piece and the woman promptly picked it up and put it in her pocket.
The couple thanked her profusely and asked her what brilliant medical training she had received. "None," she replied, "I work for the HMRC."
Be careful with those – there is a young man from Ukraine who handles them far more gently!
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Also reminds me of the story of the young couple who were having a coffee at a café with their little baby.
The baby managed to grab a 50p piece from the table and swallowed it. He then choked and went purple in the face. The couple were frantic, slapped the child on the back but he went purpler and purpler in the face.
A smartly dressed woman at the next table came over, picked up the baby and squeezed him hard by the testicles. The baby immediately disgorged the 50 p piece and the woman promptly picked it up and put it in her pocket.
The couple thanked her profusely and asked her what brilliant medical training she had received. "None," she replied, "I work for the HMRC."
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Can no longer access the Daily Mail without subscribing. There is no way that I would give a penny to that rag.
Ublock Origin. The web is unusable without an adblocker. In fact, there should be an adblocker for DNS AND locally.
These fools have got to realise I am not going to pay for their tripe and I have no interest in seeing their flashing, flickering, blinking idiotic utterly irrelevant adverts.
Use VPN.
I use a VPN. Even tried accessing Daily Mail via Sri Lanka. Didn’t work, neither did the USA.
Can't get into this DM article without being a subscriber.
Please would somebody copy and paste it into here?
Part 1:
How can you tell when politicians are lying? Their lips are moving. It’s a hoary old joke but it can still be guaranteed to raise a rueful chuckle among British voters increasingly disillusioned with the political process. I always thought it a tad unfair.
Yes, politicians do deploy all manner of contrivances to avoid telling the truth when it’s inconvenient. As someone who’s spent an adult lifetime interviewing them, I can readily testify to that.
They regularly mislead, dissemble, obfuscate, bluster, sidestep the question and teeter on the edge of lying by being economical with the truth.
But outright lie? I have found that to be very rare indeed – on either side of the political divide.
No longer. I have had to revise my opinion. In the so far short and sad existence of the Starmer Government, lying has become not just a feature to which it increasingly resorts – it’s become its
modus operandi, with the Prime Minister himself leading the charge into untruths.
For me, matters came to a head this week.
In the wake of the latest net migration figures, showing a 50 per cent reduction compared with 2023, the Home Office tweeted out a poster which said ‘Net Migration cut by nearly 50%’, describing it as ‘the largest-ever drop in net migration for any 12-month period’.
The implication was clear: it was all somehow a result of Labour Government policy. But, of course, it wasn’t. And the Government knows it wasn’t.
Last year’s fall in net migration (only the ‘largest-ever drop’ because it was coming off such a high total the year before of almost one million) was largely the result of tougher visa rules introduced, belatedly, by the previous Tory government when James Cleverly was Home Secretary.
For half of last year Labour wasn’t even in power. In opposition, it had actually attacked Cleverly’s rule-tightening, with then shadow Home Secretary Yvette Cooper (now in charge of the Home Office) dismissing it as ‘chaotic’ and ‘Tory failure’.
But that didn’t stop Keir Starmer from going even further than his Home Secretary. On Thursday he tweeted out the claim that ‘we have nearly halved net migration in the last year. We’re taking back control.’
LABOUR, of course, had done no such thing. It had merely presided over implementing the new rules it inherited from the Tories – rules it had criticised in opposition – when it took power in the second half of the year.
This is not misleading or obfuscation or being economical with the truth or any other circumlocution we might like to fall back on to gloss over what is really happening. It is, in plain English, a downright lie.
Why? That’s easy to answer.
Part 2:
The Government’s approval ratings are in the dirt. So are the PM’S personal ratings. As the economy stutters during the year ahead, there’s probably worse to come.
Nigel Farage’s Reform Party is soaring ahead in the polls, leaving Labour in its tracks and the hapless Tories nowhere to be seen. Uncontrolled mass migration is the rocket fuel that propels Reform. Labour is so desperate to counter its appeal that it’s ready to lie about the issue which gives Reform most salience. It’s a response born out of panic. And it is, of course, fooling nobody.
This week I asked a prominent Labour MP, often wheeeled out for broadcast interviews, to tell us exactly what Labour had done last year to cut net migration by
50 per cent. I said I was especially interested in what Labour had done during the six months it wasn’t even in power! Naturally, I’m still waiting for an answer.
‘You really must take us for fools,’ I said.
Perhaps we should not be surprised that lying and gaslighting – telling us things we know not to be true but doing it with such authority that we begin to question our own sanity – have become the distinguishing features of the Starmer Government.
The Prime Minister, after all, has a long track record of doing both.
Let us not forget that Starmer was elected leader of the Labour Party just over five years ago on an undiluted Corbynista prospectus. He proposed the nationalisation of energy, water and the mail, the scrapping of Universal Credit and university tuition fees, and banning outsourcing in the public sector.
He had once described Jeremy Corbyn as a ‘friend’ and then, sometime later, as ‘never a friend’.
In a BBC TV interview to which many still refer, I asked him if he promised Corbyn’s policies would be in the next Labour manifesto. His answer was a categorical ‘Yes’ – adding these policies were not just promises, they were pledges. Within a year every one had been junked.
STARMER realised that what had made him Labour leader wouldn’t necessarily make him Prime Minister. So he fought last year’s general election with a manifesto as phoney as the one with which he’d bid for his party’s leadership.
‘We don’t need higher taxes,’ shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves insisted during the campaign. Labour has ‘no plans to increase any taxes’, she regularly repeated (bar a few small, specific rises, like VAT on school fees), thereby confirming the old maxim that when a politician says they have ‘no plans’ to do something, the reality is they have a shed load just waiting to be wheeled out.
And so it transpired. Labour fought the election on tax rises of only £8.5billion, an extra £9.5billion in spending and £3.5 billion in additional borrowing.
In her first Budget last October Chancellor Reeves raised taxes by £40 billion and borrowed £36 billion more, allowing for a massive extra increase in public spending of £76 billion between now and the end of the decade.
So, an actual £76 billion more versus a promise of only a frugal £9.5 billion more.
Part 3:
I guess if you’re going to lie you might as well make it a whopper.
Reeves claimed she’d been forced to increase taxes because she’d discovered a £22 billion ‘black hole’ in the public finances on taking office. But this was to pile lie upon lie.
As The Guardian revealed during the election campaign, it was always the plan to say, ‘We’ve seen the books, it’s much worse than we thought’, as the precursor to whacking up taxes, spending and borrowing.
No doubt lots of documents and policy papers since last summer have been shredded and deleted at Labour Party HQ. But, one day, written evidence will come out to confirm what Labour intended all along. It always does.
At no stage has the Office for Budget Responsibility, which Reeves professes to revere, ever endorsed the existence of a £22 billion black hole.
What we do know is that the public finances, not left in any great shape by the Tories, were immediately made worse on Labour taking office by doling out all manner of inflationary pay rises to the party’s friends in the public sector.
In any case, even if there had been a black hole of some £22billion, when did that require £40 billion more in taxes and almost as much in extra borrowing?
In many ways the Starmer Government has never recovered from Reeves’s disastrous first Budget – which has only made the PM even more cavalier with the facts. Labour had inherited 11 per cent interest rates, he told the House of Commons earlier this year. Which is odd since rates peaked at 5.25 per cent under the previous government.
Hospices have been given an extra £100million to help them cope with the increase in employer national insurance contributions (NICS) imposed by his Government, he regularly tells the House.
He continues to claim this even after being told the £100 million is a capital grant and nothing to do with meeting running costs, such as increased NICS.
He boasts about an £880 million increase in funding for social care without mentioning the rise in NICS will cost care homes £900 million.
The lies and gaslighting are now coming thick and fast from the Starmer Government across a broad front.
Reeves continues to insist her Budget was tough but ‘fixed the foundations of the economy’, even as inflation spikes back to 3.5 per cent, dole queues lengthen and Government borrowing remains elevated – so much so that those lending the Government money are demanding record returns (higher than even during the Clustertruss interregnum in 2022).
In reality, our economic foundations are shakier than ever, as we will discover when Reeves is forced to put up taxes again in her second Budget this autumn.
The Chancellor denies she’ll have to do this, which pretty much guarantees that she will. Her promises of no more tax rises are as bankable as the ones she gave us during last summer’s election campaign.
Sometimes the porky pies are too ludicrous to take seriously. Cabinet minister Lucy Powell claimed that if the Government had not cut the winter fuel allowance for most pensioners there would have been ‘a run on the pound’. In which case, better sell your sterling fast now the Government is U-turning on the cut.
This week, Justice Secretary Shabana Mahmood, trying to deflect from her plans to let prisoners, even violent ones, out early, mooted the idea she might support mandatory chemical castration for sex offenders.
Her idea was to convince us that she wasn’t quite the softie when it comes to penal policy that she seemed. It is, of course, an absurd proposition which will never happen. But it is gaslighting of a high order.
Increasingly, we’re being misled by omission. Starmer boasts of his new youth mobility scheme with the European Union (which he ruled out only eight months ago – ‘no plans’, again).
But he cannot tell us how many will come here, for how long and what the division will be between work and study.
He says he’s negotiated a better deal for British food and defence exports to the EU. But will not say how much the improved access is going to cost us (likely hundreds of millions) – or why we’re paying for more free trade.
He claims to have opened the e-gates for us at European airports, without telling us when (not in time for this summer).
In all these cases we know what we’re giving away (for example, fishing rights for another 12 years). But we have only the vaguest idea what we’re getting in return. It’s a pretty good rule of thumb that when governments won’t tell you things it’s because the truth will hurt.
THAT explains the mountain of obfuscation surrounding the Chagos Islands deal. The untruths we’ve been served up on that would merit an essay in their own right. Suffice to say almost everything we’ve been told, from the need to do the deal to the cost (the sums must have been done by Diane Abbott), is untrue – which makes it the perfect poster child for this Government.
In opposition, Starmer vowed to provide a Government in which ‘truth means something and where honesty is at the heart of everything that it does… honesty and integrity matter. You will always get that from me.’
How hollow these words sound now from a man leading a Government which after less than a year in power is already a stranger to the truth.
The country has had untrustworthy governments in the past, from Harold Wilson’s Labour administrations of the 1960s and 70s to Boris Johnson’s government at the start of this decade. Whatever their achievements, it was always wise to perform an independent audit of everything they said.
But in 55 years of covering politics close up, I have never felt it necessary to accuse any government, on the Left or the Right, of congenitally telling untruths.
Now, for the first time, I do. The Starmer Government has taken the lying, the gaslighting and the deceit to a new level.
It has become endemic in almost everything it does – and it’s getting worse. It corrodes public trust which, once lost, is impossible to rebuild.
Starmer is heading down a dark road from which, as he will soon discover, there is no return.
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Brilliant well done. 🤗
I have the same problem with the mail they want me to pay to get rid of the advertising so I can read the articles.
I seldom go there now as the ads are so irritating.
I used to able to circumvent the M+ thingy.
The site has been tweaked to stop that.
Annoying, but I can manage without reading Richard Littlejohn.
Yes, the information commissioners office haven't yet ruled on that.
No doubt they will and will argue that people can charge money for it. At which point immense effort will go into developing an extension to remove the hateful cookie banners.
So that's what Starmer meant when he said we'd become an island of strangers – strangers to honesty and the truth.
Thank you
Again thanks.
Many thanks
When a lie is so outrageous the obvious answer is to shout it loud and proud with a straight face – if you believe it yourself everyone else will too. Any three year old boy knows that, I've known them when I worked in Play Schools.
Morning all, vit's rather gloomy out there, sort of drizzling but not quite. temperature high today is going to be 66F. Happy with that, can't stand the heat.
A message from Tommy Robinson concerning his ongoing persecution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U8AtKuRELU
That's the punctured wheel replaced on the car. Whoever called the rims "Light Alloy" was obviously joking: I reckon they are made from depleted uranium, they are so heavy – with some doubt about the depletion…
I have free accsess to the Mail on line so I can see what the idiots are up to.
Morning all. Your link doesn’t give the article itself, Johnny, it doesn’t open.
Morning all, in Brave click on reader mode and u can see article but not comments. thats on an iPad – might help avoid the paywall for you
Please copy and past the article for us all Johnny
This one ison a paywall sorry.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-14743517/ANDREW-NEIL-55-years-covering-politics-Ive-never-accused-UK-government-routinely-telling-untruths-Starmer-taken-lying-gaslighting-deplorable-level.html
Pls C&P the article.
Its a paywall so cannot.
Six years ago: We never left and StarmFührer has locked the fire escape and set fire to the building.
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The love child of Tarzan and Clarke has turned out to be a mutant bride of Frankenstein. Brain dead but refusing to die.
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Bring back Maggie – or Winston!
Theresa May is, in my opinion, the most repulsive and evil woman ever to have been elected as an MP.
But in terms of sheer determination to destroy the UK Starmer is without rival.
Like Evil twins.
Or Baldwin.
She was scuppered by a political class that fought her at every turn and the short termism of parliament. The EU plans in decades because it never faces elections. It was designed specifically to never, ever face the electorate and therefore be disrupted by annoyances like democracy.
It's a communist dictatorship. May wanted a deal and the EU simply said no. May ran out of time (and was stabbed by a spiteful and vicious political class) because the hated EU ran down the clock – mainly because scum like Starmer were double dealing and giving away every secret document they could from parliament.
I don't think she was scuppered at all. She wanted to keep the UK as close to the EU as possible. She employed a Remainer civil servant, Olly Robbins, as her chief negotiator and allowed the EU to dictate the agenda of the negotiations. She was an embarrassment to the nation, even before you take into account her dress sense.
She has no dress sense. I have postulated the theory that – because she was a "busy" MP – she employed a dress adviser who completely loathed her and kept presenting her with the most ghastly outfits. Treason, being dim, thought that the cries of, "You look just marvellous," were real…{:¬))
Mutton dressed as slapper?
Very naughty as per, for you mister…😂😂😂 (good one tho)
I doubt she wanted to leave.
All her actions were deliberately feeble.
Spot on. She was lying through her teeth when she said "Brexit means Brexit".
Lemme guess…top one T. May, bottom one L.Truss….
Not easy: Lots of possible choices after third line:
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must dash, off to Downing St for the 12pm meet. Husband under strict instructions to get FSU onto the case should I be arrested. Which I shouldn’t be, as I am only going to stand outside Downing St. But you know Plod.
Don't think provocative thoughts! And no praying!
Im in Cardiff, about 50 stalwarts on the lawn having a chat!
Cool! Lots of Plod at Downing Street and quite a few reporters (not al-Beeb though). I asked the one with the huge camera and he said he was from Reuters. A white van was circling which had anti-government slogans on, and he got a great cheer every time. We had a lot of taxi toots too. Lots of people chanting “We want Starmer out” and “Starmer’s a wanker”. And “black and brown people” too! I was chatting to lots of people, mostly seemed to be the left-behind working classes.
Thoughts on Arsongate:
with three young alleged male "models" arrested and at least three directed-at- Starmer fires, and the country going to he'll at a suddenly accelerating rate since July 2024, a suggested title for a longer article on the matter is;
SODOM AND GOMORRAH AND FIRST-PAST-THE-POST
Sod 'em all …..
So I believe….🙄
Sod 'em all …..
Oh, he will, Anne, he surely will.
I reckon it's a lashing out after receiving the results of a HIV test.
Ties in with.. Feb 2025 fuss.
Sir Keir Starmer becomes first PM to take HIV test
Sir Keir Starmer becomes the first sitting prime minister to take a public HIV test.
It'll be Lord Ali or Starmer that's positive. Victoria Starmer won't even touch her husband without latex gloves.
Victoria’s Secret ….. that’s a good name for a company selling “dirty linen”.
Now why would he do that, I wonder….
So, it isn’t toilet seats which transmit HIV. rather it’s the bisexual lurds indulging in unsafe sex …
BTW if I were Victoria and these rumours were true, I’d be tempted to Bobbit him …
“This is two-tier policing in action. The law is rightly clear that supporting banned terrorist groups, inciting violence, inciting racial hatred or harassing people is illegal. Beyond that, free speech applies to everyone."
From https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/05/23/jewish-protester-arrested-mocking-terrorist-leader/
'Harrassing people'. That's a broad term! In fact it's a term so broad, so open to interpretation that actually no, we don't have freedom of speech, do we? We have a two tier policing system and endless law that is specifically designed to protect the most violent, savage and dangerous group forced on this country against public will.
We have language crime. There are words that can’t be used in public. If I were to go outside and just shout “nigger” at no one in particular, I’d be arrested.
Disqus doesn’t like you either.
Disqus doesn’t overrule individual site settings.
Was that Millwall 'no-one likes us we don't care'…look out for the famous brick…..
I wonder what happened to that old Book about storage for log burners and one other person.
My grandfather had a dark brown spaniel…give you a guess at its name…no-one batted an eyelid. I worked at a chemical factory, we had a colour .'…………'.dark brown, again not an eyelid batted.
Back when ah were a lad, the only person of colour in our part of town was Darkie Williams. Really nice bloke. I never knew his Christian name. I don't think anybody did. In fact, I suspect that he himself might have forgotten it.
Just calling your dog?
We don’t have democracy either. Here in Surrey local elections were cancelled. No mention of when they may next happen.
Starmer is sliding us back into the EU despite a clear vote to leave. Democracy? What's that?
Terrible,………police are investigating the cause of the fire. Try the A word.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/three-boys-and-a-woman-die-in-house-fire-man-arrested-at-scene/ar-AA1FotCz?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=a0a78fec60b84e54854ca1b41ed83ca9&ei=21
I have to admit the B word sprang to mind.
There you have me…
A lot of missing detail which, no doubt, will lead to an amount of speculation.
It’s been posted again Bob, more details and a huge clue to the disaster.
‘They’re very good people – nothing wrong here’…..Of course they were, dear!🤦🏻♀️
Kweer Starmer – Never look a gift horse in the mouth!
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He's a Sikh.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/05/24/whitehall-refuses-to-cut-diversity-roles/
Why are they being given the choice? Point and sack. The hard Left state entrenches. It just keeps hiring ever more unnecessary roles and that only stops when the political class destroy them. Close another department – don't reassign people, just make them reundant.
I wonder how many times in the past has Government Policy been derailed by Snivel Serpents who disagree with it?
Without number, Bob…?
Yes Minister. Followed by. Yes Prime Minister.
I think really, in your heart of hearts, you know that’s not going to happen. We all do. Just think of the abolition of NHS England. What happened to all the staff? You can bet your bottom dollar none lost their jobs.
Fallout from the 3-day skirmish between PAF & Indian Air Force continues..
some say it's a 1937 Condor Legion moment.. or a 1905 Russo-Japan wake up call..
The biggest dogfight since WW2 with 225 fighters engaged in a 350 mile radius.
On paper the Rafale with Meteor missiles should have "outstickd" the J10 with PL15.
At 120 miles, outside the enemy max range.. and suddenly your wing man explodes. Oh dear, we have a problem Houston.
Rafale orders on pause for: India, Indonesia, Columbia Egypt. You choose.. $30 miillion for J10 vs. $150 million for Rafale.
If that wasn't bad enough for the West & Russian military..
A PAF JF-17 with CM-400 hypersonic air-to-ground missile knocked out S400 ground defence batteries.
And the best stuff from China has yet to make an appearance!!!!
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A lot of anti-Starmer sentiment here!!!
It's odd isn't it, LIR…I thought most would be completely onboard with him…🤔🤢
If you can stand it………
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/the-12-biggest-lies-keir-starmer-has-told-us-now-they-re-coming-back-to-bite-him/ar-AA1Fo6Wo?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=2f463649605c48b2adb6b1e144982019&ei=130
To paraphrase Judge Judy, Eddy …'when his mouth is moving'…
Fast-Track A&E
I have just heard on the radio that the NHS is planning to open special 'fast-track' A&E units for people with mental health issues who may need a less challenging experience then sitting on a plastic chair in ‘normal’ A&E for five or six hours.
As a student of Human Behaviour I can foresee instant long queues at these fast-track units and an overworked triage unit at each unit to send the majority back to traditional A&E.
Henceforth known as a 'Streeting Special' or perhaps 'Doing a Streeting'…
"Baseball bats will be provided to settle disputes"
Exactly, Lewis….😂
Perhaps the new units will use a quick treatment to those newbies with mental 'elf, a quick boot to the backside and out the door.
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Guess which boat I'm in, Alec…x
The gravy boat? x
No cigar. The one swearing at Starmer…😂 x
Mary Anning of Lyme Regis. One of my favourite heroines:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Anning
A great explorer …. stimulated thoughts re. Ada Lovelace and (fictional) French Lieutenant 's Woman …
The dog's producing a possible future coprolite.
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So is everyone singing from the same hymn sheet, WE ARE
FIGHTING A WAR ON TWO FRONTS.
Them being the frogs and their allies the political Legion of St. George posing as the English Government.
Dt,
France seizes British fishing boat in English Channel
Vessel from Eastbourne detained by French naval ship days after Starmer ‘surrenders’ UK fishing rights
406179 + up ticks,
O2O,
We, via the elected political overseers are actually paying them, the frogs, mega bucks
whilst they are taking the PISS, BIG TIME.
Today is the 125th anniversary of the opening of Nottingham Victoria. The Great Central Railway's London Extension had been open for more than a year before Victoria was opened quietly without ceremony in the early hours of the 24th May 1900 (Queen Vic's birthday). In the interim, Nottingham passengers had to use the modest Arkwright Street station, half a mile away to the south of the Midland Railway station. The building of Victoria was a vast undertaking. 1,300 houses, 24 pubs and a church were demolished on the 12-acre site from which more than half a million cubic yards of sandstone were excavated. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c0d79e5a6050a419d56bcafff669955ad4bf8325279885b7233e53725b2e3950.jpg
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The top photo was taken shortly before opening (building materials are still on the platform), that below not long before closure. The glass in the attractive end screens was removed for safety reasons at the start of WW2 and never reinstalled (it has been rumoured that it's still in storage somewhere). The facade was disfigured with metal panelling, much of which was also later removed before it fell off. The whole roof was in a sorry state by 1969, when the remaining service, a dmu shuttle to Rugby, was withdrawn. Demolition followed quickly and the space was filled by the giant concrete bunker that is the Victoria shopping centre, opened just three years later.
In a more enlightened age, the building would have been incorporated sensitively into a redevelopment but back then the municipal vandals who blighted the UK couldn't wait to get rid of it. It was a sad end for the grandest of the stations on Edward Watkins' great folly.
It's hard to find a good quality photo of the station frontage. Despite the digital watermarks, this is a decent one. The hotel on the right remains and is now part of the Hilton group. The clock tower stands, sadly dwarfed by the monstrous pile of concrete behind it.
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Also featured here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgq32959pnko
If the old GC lines had not been shut down, there would be no need for building HS2. And their much more direct Sheffield to Manchester and Liverpool route would address a good piece of today's "cross country" issue.
My father spent some months "commuting" on the old Liverpool – Harwich boat train which used GC lines, when he was being transferred from East Anglia to Merseyside.
Overcrowding between Euston and Birmingham New Street wasn't really a consideration in the 60s when the GCR was closed. It was doomed as soon as the London Midland Region took control in 1958. Old rivalries died hard in BR days and Midland men couldn't wait to run it down. The Western Region had the same attitude to the former Southern Railway lines that it took over in the 60s, notably the South-Western mainline west of Salisbury, reduced almost to a 'basic' railway.
Man arrested after three children killed in London house fire. NOT NAMED but from Muslim Brent.
Woman, 43, also died at scene of blaze in Stonebridge and two others taken to hospital.
A man has been arrested on suspicion of murder after three children and a woman died in a house fire in north-west London.
Police were called to assist the London Fire Brigade (LFB) at the scene of the blaze in Tillett Close, Stonebridge, at 1.22am on Saturday.
A 43-year-old woman, a girl aged 15, and two boys aged eight and four died at the scene, the Metropolitan Police said.
A 41-year-old man was arrested at the scene on suspicion of murder and remains in custody.
Firefighters said a woman and a child were rescued from the second floor of one property by crews wearing breathing apparatus and received immediate emergency care. Both were declared dead at the scene.
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The other two children were found inside the property, LFB said, and were also declared dead at the scene.
Their next-of-kin have been informed, the force added.
The damage to the inside of the house in Tillett Close, Stonebridge
The damage to the inside of the house in Tillett Close, Stonebridge
Two other people were taken to hospital by the London Ambulance Service and their condition is unknown.
Four people managed to escape the properties before firefighters arrived.
Mohamed Labidi, 38, a neighbour and friend of the woman and her three children said: “We’ve been friends for 25 years. They were very humble people. We grew up together. They were really sociable, I was always at their house playing Fifa. We went to taekwondo and boxing together.
“I don’t want to look around [behind me] at the shell. It’s a strong community here.”
A young woman who lives next door to the two burnt-out homes, added: “I was on my bed getting ready to go to sleep when I heard noises like something was breaking. We had to run outside to escape.”
Firefighters said they were confronted by a fierce blaze when they arrived.
Eight fire engines and about 70 firefighters were deployed to the scene, where two terraced houses were severely damaged.
Keeley Foster, the assistant commissioner of the LFB, said: “This is an extremely tragic incident, and the thoughts of everyone across the Brigade are with those impacted by this incident.
Back in after tidying in the barn, and clipping some of the brambles – now, a huge mass of spiky bits just waiting to trap the unwary. Now enjoying a IPA – quite good, really, for a Norwegian brew.
Not having a bonfire Obs.
I see someone on duty fell asleep when the container ship ended up in someone's back garden.
No fires allowed. The countryside & woods are too dry.
We'll stack it with the severed branches (a pile now visible on Google Earth) until it's OK to have a fire.
The link might show the bonfire to the left of the middle, as a brown splodge in the small field…
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The paler green lines to the right are the brambles we're dealing with. Not green just yet, still brown, woody and vicious!
Shredder?
Prolly. Can't deal with tree branches, unless you get a massive one!
Worth it if you have a continuing issue with "trimmings" – including trees… Produces good material for mulching..
We rented one a while back to get rid of all the branches and leaves from a couple of trees we had cut down. It would take up to 6" branches. The bigger stuff got chopped up and left to dry out for firewood.
Be careful what you get in the woodpile.
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Just to let you know that Eric was told at 10.30am he was being discharged from DGRI today. As at 2.30 he was still waiting for the notes! Well, it is the weekend…🤦🏻♀️
Are you banging your pans?
That is nearly always the case, especially if you're waiting for a prescription.
Why does the pharmacy close at 8pm and not be open after 4 on a Sunday?
That is a good question. It has to come down to negotiated contracts for services. Badly done as the NHS does everything.
I did read an article that they dispense in order of the request received as opposed to any urgency or the freeing of beds.
I was admitted on a Friday night because of non-existent potassium in my blood and was put on a drip for 24 hours.
The doctor that had looked at my notes and noticed a high alcohol intake and wanted me to remain in acute care ward.
I asked when the proposed therapist would arrive. Monday.
I would then have probably waited all day if not longer for the therapist who would not actually do anything for me while i was taking up a bed for all that time.
They wanted to dry you out first and clear the alcohol.
Why would you say that? I am never drunk. I just drink every day.
I didn’t say you were drunk – you probably have a high tolerance level.
I beg to differ. Not that you could ever offend me.
Well I try not to be offensive.
You have never been. My responses are mine.
No idea.
He's lucky; I had to stay until the following Monday because the doctor who admitted me didn't work at the weekend!
I know that feeling. I was told at 8 am that I would be leaving – they needed the bed. I got dressed and phoned the MR to stand by. At 4 pm a nurse rocked up with the tablets I needed (apparently) and one page letter – which must have taken all of ten minutes to type. The "urgently needed" bed remained unavailable all that day.
Envy of the world, eh?
The nurses and most of the doctors are okay. It's the seat polishers. The faster they do the paperwork the more there is. So they don't.
In the non-critical wards, some of the nurses were abysmal.
Give him our best when you're in touch! At least he's coming out alive – unlike poor Tom……… thinking of him on his birthday.
Standard prarctice, Sue. There must be thousands of "bed blockers" just waiting for their prescriptions. I've been there. I once managed to beat te system, with help from an unusually helpful ward sister. She agreed to store the meds in the ward until the following day. So I got home, and she won a vacant bed. What's not to like?
Little Johnny’s mom was suspicious that he hadn’t been paying much attention in Sunday School. So as soon as they got home, she asked, “So, Johnny, what did you learn in class today?”
“Not exactly… but trust me—if I told you his version, you’d never believe it!”
“We learned about Joanna and the Whale,” he said proudly.
“Joanna and the Whale?” she repeated, raising an eyebrow. “Tell me more.”
Johnny nodded and launched into his version of events.
“Well, Joanna lived in Miami, and one day she went deep sea fishing in the Bermuda Triangle. Then a big storm hit! The boat captain panicked and threw her overboard because her fishing line got tangled with something huge.”
His mom crossed her arms, skeptical. “Uh-huh… go on.”
“It turned out it wasn’t a fish at all,” Johnny said. “It was actually a CIA submarine. They picked her up, took her to Cuba, and told her to warn Castro to behave—or Uncle Sam would drone him.”
“And then what happened?” she asked, half amused, half horrified.
“Castro said okay, and everyone lived happily ever after,” Johnny concluded with a smile.
His mother stared at him, speechless.
“Johnny… is that really the story your teacher told you?”
Johnny shuffled his feet, avoided eye contact, and finally muttered,
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France seizes UK fishing boat in English Channel
The British vessel's captain now faces prosecution for fishing whelks without a licence. LOL
2TK says it's the law.
whilst ignoring a fleet of boats bringing migrants.
Will future generations feel more sorry for us or contemptuous that we swallowed all this without doing anything about it, or perhaps like Germans under the nasti regime, they will assume we are all complicit?
American political commentator and activist Charlie Kirk to take Connolly's case right to the top of the Trump administration.
"I'm going to bring this up to Marco Rubio. I'm going to send him a text,"
In background, in irritating nasal whine..
"We've have a long tradition of freedom of speech.."
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May one ask,
So, we seem to have this mass death wish , say each of them foreign chappies illegally in-house were to bump off an indigenous person say one a month, baring in mind that 300 a day enter illegally how long would it take to clear the indigenous from an average sized city ?
https://x.com/NickBuckleyMBE/status/1925990329309602081
Why did they not taser him? He's not a pensioner …..
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Probably for that very reason.
Get Starmer in the Oval Office hot seat and broadcast his humiliation live on the UK MSM.
https://x.com/JimFergusonUK/status/1926176753233297657
Get Starmer in the Oval Office hot seat and broadcast his humiliation live on the UK MSM.
https://x.com/JimFergusonUK/status/1926176753233297657
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In this ongoing war of dangerous input and selective manipulation tis no good politely asking the overseers NOT to do something underhanded, we have had nigh on four decades of doing that and the situation has got most decidedly worse.
The time is surely approaching where an indigenous persons highly suspect death, serious life lasting injuries, are matched via clinically arranged peoples from the political overseers / pharmaceuticals being treated likewise.
https://x.com/wideawake_media/status/1925469986912382989
France seizes British fishing boat
Vessel from Eastbourne detained in Channel by French naval ship days after Starmer ‘surrenders’ UK fishing rights
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/05/24/france-seizes-british-fishing-boat-in-english-channel/
You could almost applaud the French for showing that they have the same amount of contempt for Starmer as the British people have.
You could almost applaud the French for showing that they have the same amount of contempt for the British people as Starmer has .
Pinned comment on Going Postal from 4 days ago:-
People need to be careful about making Lucy Connelly into a heroine who can do no wrong, especially when she comes out of prison.
Her husband was previously knowingly or unknowingly part of a covid PR exercise.
Miri Finch notes that Connelly's X account was extremely heavily used (average 100 posts a day) in the eight months prior to her conviction and questions whether this is consistent with being a parent and running a child-minding business.
I am sure the PTB will be digging every tiny grain of dirt about her and her husband to denigrate them.
Yes, it’s funny that they are not, isn’t it.
Holding fire in case it gets appealed to the SC.
I forgot to add, the fund-raising platform used by Connelly has remarkably few clients and is owned by a major donor to Reform. This affair is being spun up on the alt media as a huge vote winner for Reform. Whatever Reform is, a genuine opposition is what it is not. See expulsion of Habib and Lowe etc.
As it stands, it’s the best bet to turn things upside-down, it won’t of course, Fartage will see to that.
Or to get people's trust so that they will go willingly into the technocratic slaughterhouse.
No wonder the NHS is short of cash. I usually get a letter every 2 years with a retinopathy appointment in a couple of months time. Today I have received mine for August together with 5 A4 sheets with instructions and info on both sides all colourfully printed. One sheet is full of directions and parking charges for Raigmore Hospital in Inverness 80 miles away yet the appointment is in the next village practice. Binned!
I read in my local rag that some NHS bod had defrauded a six figure sum. No wonder they're short of cash!
Name of Streeting? Or, more likely, Hancock?
No "former manager from south Shropshire". It's behind a paywall so I've no more details.
On the foolishness of Guardian journalists….fascinating, but only because you can feel smug if you don't have one of these devices (which I suspect is most NOTTLers).
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/may/24/what-i-discovered-when-i-asked-amazon-to-tell-me-everything-alexa-had-heard
I wouldn't give houseroom to one of these listening devices. People must be mad to want a spy in the house.
It's a sad sad sad sad world.
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Wordle 24 May 2025
Nap finish for Birdie Three?
I got there when the penny dropped as to which letter was repeated.
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Well done, Sue!
Well done, par for me.
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Nice one – I got fed up trying to work out the alternatives so bunged in the only one I could think of (still dont know if there were alternatives) – Fortunate Four!
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Birdie by chance. I almost put W as in the vegetable before the U dropped into place.
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Well done, cori!
Evening, all. On the last lap now. Overnight stay near Oxford then home. I was just thinking as I drove past "Stop the Family Farm Tax" posters, that I knew a Labour government would be bad, but I had no idea just how bad.
Have that sticker on the back screen of the Noddy car.
I have “Stop the EU Rip Off” – as true now as it was in 2016..
It's difficult to predict, that kind of thing.
Boris and Carrie Johnson welcome new baby
Johnson said she ‘couldn’t be happier’ after the birth of her daughter Poppy, a new sibling for Wilfred, Romy and Frank
Carrie Johnson has given birth to her fourth child, a daughter named Poppy.
The wife of Boris Johnson said on Saturday that her child was born on Wednesday, May 21.
Sharing a photo of Poppy with two of her other children on social media, Johnson said she “couldn’t believe” how “pretty and tiny” her new daughter was.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/boris-johnson-carrie-new-baby-dkvs3c222
Congratulations to the pair of them .
I now hope they cut their nonsense about green agendas , because they have completely forgotten their argument about EMISSIONS, well , haven't they.
Boris is as portly as a rampant walrus, and quite honestly , I just don't know how he locates his winkle and manages to find the grunty excitement to procreate yet again~!!!
I find the whole squalid affair nauseating.
First Loch Arkaig osprey hatched, and had its first feed!
Lovely! Are there any pictures?
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/adorable-moment-first-osprey-chick-35282444
All that no children to save the planet stuff is only for the plebs. Like Gates and his private jets – the self-named elite will carry on doing what they want.
For an older man, the best "viagra" is a younger wife apparently.
I think that goes both ways.
Are we talking about Starmer?
Carrie does reverse cowgirl.
The Warqueen casually tells me it's easier for double penetration.
I couldn't possibly comment.
Do you want to hear my experience?
No.
Thanks.
Just finishing dinner.
Phizzee
What does that mean ?
Never heard of that
Glad you asked! It sounds a bit rural.
In actuality more Cotswolds and Monteceito. Possibly why Princess Markle isn't as popular as she thinks.
The Cotswolds is fairly rural.
I like your thinking.
Also full of people with plenty of money and no morality.
We live at the more down to earth end.
Whatever you do…Don't ask your husband. Ask the IOW boys.
M'mmmmm …. very green.
Well over the replacement level.
They're doing their bit for the white population.
Good point.
In 1987, Johnson married Allegra Mostyn-Owen, daughter of the art historian William Mostyn-Owen and Italian writer Gaia Servadio. The couple's marriage ended in divorce or annulment in 1993 and 12 days later Johnson married Marina Wheeler, a barrister, daughter of journalist Charles Wheeler. Five weeks later, their first child was born. They have four children: Lara, Milo, Cassia and Theodore.
Between 2000 and 2004, Johnson had an affair with Spectator columnist Petronella Wyatt when he was its editor, resulting in a terminated pregnancy and a miscarriage. In April 2006, the News of the World alleged that Johnson was having an affair with Guardian journalist Anna Fazackerley. The pair did not comment; shortly afterward, Johnson employed Fazackerley.
In 2009, Johnson fathered a daughter with Helen Macintyre, an arts consultant.
In September 2018, Johnson and Wheeler issued a statement confirming that they had separated months earlier; they divorced in 2020. Jennifer Arcuri said that she had an affair with Johnson from 2012 to 2016.
In 2019, Johnson was living with Carrie Symonds, the daughter of Matthew Symonds, co-founder of The Independent newspaper. Johnson and Symonds became engaged in late 2019 and their son, Wilfred, was born in April 2020. On 29 May 2021 Johnson married Symonds at Westminster Cathedral. Their daughter, Romy, was born in December 2021. Their third child, a son named Frank, was born in July 2023. Their fourth child, a daughter named Poppy, was born in May 2025.
In summary:
Allegra Mostyn-Owen…..0?
Marina Wheeler……………4
Petronella Wyatt………….[2 (1 aborted, 1 miscarried)]
Anna Fazackerley…………0?
Helen Macintyre……………1
Jennifer Arcuri……………..0?
Carrie Symonds……………4
Total (known): ……………..9 surviving, 2 not!
And these are the ones we know about (or have been admitted!).
He should have been neutered at birth.
somebody has to pay our pensions!
And Johnson’s legion of brats manage that, do they?
Boris and Carrie Johnson welcome new baby
Johnson said she ‘couldn’t be happier’ after the birth of her daughter Poppy, a new sibling for Wilfred, Romy and Frank
Carrie Johnson has given birth to her fourth child, a daughter named Poppy.
The wife of Boris Johnson said on Saturday that her child was born on Wednesday, May 21.
Sharing a photo of Poppy with two of her other children on social media, Johnson said she “couldn’t believe” how “pretty and tiny” her new daughter was.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/boris-johnson-carrie-new-baby-dkvs3c222
Congratulations to the pair of them .
I now hope they cut their nonsense about green agendas , because they have completely forgotten their argument about EMISSIONS, well , haven't they.
Boris is as portly as a rampant walrus, and quite honestly , I just don't know how he locates his winkle and manages to find the grunty excitement to procreate yet again~!!!
Yet another one! Time he tied a knot in it.
Couldn't agree more.
Me too.
That's me gone. Some rain until about 10 am – fairly useful in that it topped up most of the waterbutts but not the largest (1000 litre) one. Useful greenhouse work and planting out. It may be fine and sunny tomorrow. Or not.
Have a jolly evening.
A demain
And grossly obese. One i saw had three scrubs stitched together. Anyone would think she was suffering from Elephantiasis.
No need to trumpet this.
Don't be a dumbo.
Ear, ear …..
You do know we will treat you as Sandy.
I blame the Lawyers !
Tusk, tusk.
406179+ up ticks,
Witness the victory fruits of tactical voting.
https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1925974561234817533
An irrelevant minority who will never see office.
(famous last words as the muslim is feted everywhere).
They may not, but even in small numbers they already exert an undue influence over British politics. The consideration of a blasphemy law for instance.
Mayoress of Rotherham, appointed not elected, has her inauguration speech in Slammer-speak, saying "I am mayor for pakistan".
Takeover mostly complete.
Fuck allah.
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Goodnight, all. Going to sign off now. Last night away from home so I'm going to try to get a decent night's sleep if I can.
Sov godt, Conners.
Tak Paul.
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I can't enlarge it large enough to read the text. But I agree with the headline.
Reproduced in full elsewhere.
Yes, i posted it in thee parts earlier on today. About 10:30 am. It’s 7:30 pm now , so about 9 hours ago.
Thanks – I did find it!
Cut to the chase, Johnny.
Good post.
406179+ up ticks,
Bout the strength of it, ask yourself if you were on 90K plus exes in a nice dry environment with subsidized fodder & drink
as in the HOC,would you be seeking change ?
Daniel Hannan
Britain is heading for utter ruin, and neither the parties nor the voters are prepared to stop it
From Labour to the Tories and Reform, no one is making a convincing case for shrinking the size of the state
I asked Chat GPT to give me a list of all the nicknames for Kier Starmer. Some are missing i think (free gear, never here, Starmfuehrer, Starmlin) but i want to get a comprehensive list for the future.
“Keir Starmer, the current Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, has been the subject of various nicknames, reflecting both admiration and criticism from different political factions and the media. Here's a comprehensive list of notable nicknames attributed to him:
🏛️ Official and Neutral Nicknames
Special K – A personal nickname, reportedly stemming from his visit to a Kellogg's factory.
Mr Rules – Used by supporters to highlight his legal background and contrast with the controversial conduct of previous leaders.
🎭 Satirical and Derisive Nicknames
Sir Beer Korma – Coined by Boris Johnson during the Beergate controversy.
Sir Kid Starver – Criticizes Labour's refusal to scrap the two-child benefit cap under Starmer's leadership.
Sir Softie/Softie – Used by Rishi Sunak to label Starmer as "soft on crime," referencing Labour's opposition to Conservative sentencing reforms.
Captain Hindsight – First used by Boris Johnson, later adopted by Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak, to mock Starmer's retrospective criticisms.
Queer Harmer – Used by critics opposing his stance on LGBT and transgender rights.
Two-tier Keir – Coined in response to claims of two-tier policing, popularized by Elon Musk.
Free Gear Keir – References a controversy involving gifts to Starmer and his wife from businessman Waheed Alli.
Starmer the Farmer Harmer – Used during the 2024 farmers' protests against planned inheritance tax changes.
🧠 Humorous and Pejorative Nicknames
A satirical article from The New European lists several creative and cutting nicknames:
Donkey-Fondler
Captain Interesting
Iron Quiff
Inertia Boy
Mostly Starmless
The Phantom Vacillator of Holborn & St Pancras
Master Procrastinator
Starmer The Embalmer
The Human Anaesthetic
Yawnman
The Right Honourable Member for the Howling Void Between Realities
The Man Who Wasn't There
These nicknames often reflect public perceptions of Starmer's leadership style and political positioning.”
Kneeler the squealer?
I asked it to try again (i still think some are missing):
“You're absolutely right—there are indeed more nicknames for Sir Keir Starmer that have circulated, often reflecting public sentiment and political satire. Here's an expanded list, incorporating those you've mentioned and others that have gained traction:
🧾 Additional Nicknames for Sir Keir Starmer
Starmführer – A provocative play on "Sturmführer," suggesting authoritarian tendencies.
Never Here – Criticizing his perceived absence from key issues or events.
Two-Tier Keir – Used in response to claims of two-tier policing, later popularised by Elon Musk.
Free Gear Keir – References a controversy involving gifts to Starmer and his wife from businessman Waheed Alli.
Sir Beer Korma – Coined by Boris Johnson during the Beergate controversy.
Sir Kid Starver – Criticizes Labour's refusal to scrap the two-child benefit cap under Starmer's leadership.
Sir Softie – Used by Rishi Sunak to label Starmer as "soft on crime."
Captain Hindsight – Mocking retrospective criticisms, first used by Boris Johnson.
Queer Harmer – Used by critics opposing his stance on LGBT and transgender rights.
Starmer the Farmer Harmer – Used during the 2024 farmers' protests against planned inheritance tax changes.
Cover-up Keir – Implying involvement in cover-ups, particularly related to the "Free Gear" controversy.
Granny Harmer – A pejorative nickname, though less commonly used.
Queer Stammer – A derogatory term used by some critics.
Smear Karma – A play on "Karma," suggesting retribution for alleged smear tactics.
Rodney You Plonker – A humorous reference to his middle name, "Rodney," and a catchphrase from the sitcom Only Fools and Horses.
The Phantom Vacillator of Holborn & St Pancras – Highlighting perceived indecisiveness.
The Right Honourable Member for the Howling Void Between Realities – A satirical take on his political positioning.
The Man Who Wasn't There – Criticizing his perceived lack of presence or influence.
The Human Anaesthetic – Implying a dull or uninspiring presence.
Tedious Maximus – A play on "Maximus," suggesting boredom.
Leader of the Plopposition – A pun on "Opposition," indicating ineffectiveness.
Yawnman – Highlighting perceived lack of excitement or energy.
Appletiser Socialist – A jab at his political stance, implying it's watered down.
Sir Plus To Requirements – Suggesting he's surplus to political needs.
Mostly Starmless – Indicating a lack of leadership or direction.
Iron Quiff – Referring to his hairstyle, possibly mocking his appearance.
Inertia Boy – Highlighting perceived lack of action or movement.
Master Procrastinator – Implying a tendency to delay decisions.
Donkey-Fondler – A satirical nickname, though its origins are unclear.
Not Even The Most Important Keir To Be Labour Leader – A humorous comparison to Keir Hardie.
Iron Quiff – Mocking his hairstyle.
Sir Triangulatesalot – A jab at his centrist positioning.
The Grey Lantern – Implying a dull or uninspiring presence.
God Emperor of the Centrist Dads – Satirizing his appeal to centrist voters.
Former Director of the Clown Persecution Service Shortages – A satirical take on his career.
The Keir to the Throne – A play on words, suggesting ambition.
Starm Troopers – A pun on "Stormtroopers," indicating loyal followers.
The Man Who Wasn't There – Criticizing his perceived lack of presence or influence.
I pushed again, proffering Kiermageddon:
“Yes—"Keirmageddon" is another satirical nickname that has popped up, especially on social media. It's a portmanteau of Keir and Armageddon, typically used by critics to mock what they see as:
A political apocalypse for the Labour left under Starmer’s leadership
His perceived abandonment of socialist policies
Disillusionment among traditional Labour supporters
It’s commonly used in headlines, memes, and online forums to dramatize major Labour policy shifts or controversies under his tenure.”
It hasn’t even got “Kneel” (or Neil)
Nor Sir Cursed Harmer.
How did your demo go?
Well, i only stayed an hour as ironically i had work to do. There were about (?)(guessing) 100 of us, no one particularly in charge.
About 10 Plod looking serious and telling is all to cross the road (no one did).
Lots of chanting of “we want Starmer out” and “Starmer is a banker”. Quite a lot of press there – Reuters with a big camera, and a few others (i didn’t ask who).
I spoke to quite a few people. Two very left-behind white working class men from Dagenham with family problems that required help with housing that wasn’t forthcoming: a social worker from Rugby looking to emigrate somewhere but where? Etc.
A St George knight. The lads with the placards i posted a picture of earlier (also one of Khant with the slogan “liar”). Union Jacks and the England flag. A very black man shouting anti-Starmer slogans with the rest of them (for work reasons i have to be very careful, just being there is dangerous for me let alone saying anything). A van with anti-Starmer slogans circling to big cheers every 15 minutes or so. Toots from taxis. Bemused tourists.
It was breaking up naturally by 2:30 when i went past on my way home. I shall be interested in what the meed-ja has to say on it.
I've been by those gates a few times! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f9b411c94b423af134e0c135393a8e5fc558c593dc701c8359da3fa303c06fd5.jpg
R sole
Missing Max (or Mad Max) after Max Headroom.
I never trust any man who bothers with his hair to that extent. The only bloke I know who does that is a woofter.
Seems that your case is proven.
Narcissistic tendencies .. example , hair , spectacles , shoes , suits etc.. not paid for by him but… his friend ..
I never trust any man who bothers with his hair to that extent. The only bloke I know who does that is a woofter.
Does anyone remember the character in Catch 22, Major Major Major Major? He would only allow people to see him in his office when he wasn't there.
I have read Catch 22 , as has Moh , and please also remember the Caine Mutiny..
Starmer is similar to Captain Queeg .
Queeg had obsessive behaviors that alienated his crew and detracted from ship performance.
Lost his marbles as I recall and a tub of ice cream or something.
Starmer is losing his marbles!
Never had any
Madeline Grant referred to him as the Living Adenoid.
And 'Sir Oinky' as a reflection of his increasing corpulence.
Well done the Goonerlasses.
European champions.
My SiL will be impossible! 🙄
Funny that, she says the same.
};-O
Younger daughter’s husband!
You have to spell these things out to sos.
He was poorly educated and now has been in France so long that he has forgotten (if he ever knew) such acronyms!
Whereas your one track mind didn't realise there might be two solutions.
Ah – there you have me wrong.. I now about Sue’s family!
He does too!
He wouldn’t dare!
You bullyphant…
That’s me!
Not the only football news today, eh?!
Are we talking the Mackems?
Aye!
Haway the lads!
The local Derbies should be fun!
I hear you lot are playing in burqas next season Sue?
Yeah yeah…the ‘joke’ is soooo lame now.
Sorry if I gave you the hump Sue!
Nah! Just got your just deserts…😁
LoL! Here’s sand in your eye. May both our tribes increase.
In an oasis of calm….
You win. Salaam alaikum!
Thank you Tom! I really didn’t take offence!
Loving your work!
I know. I just want to work in a reference to the Sons of the Prophet United.
This will all end in Lamentations….
As everything does.
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I sat up to type a witty and incisive comment and Her Warqueenness appeared and said 'Oi, you. Lie down. Now'.
My hopes for a liaison were dashed when she then turned on her heel and walked off.
The lady has your measure.
You know there are prone screens available?
Prone screens?
Screens that you can watch things on while on your back.
Just wondering whether this new government is taking UK defence seriously ?
Tom Sharpe
24 May 2025 6:56am BST
Tom Sharpe
Thursday marked a significant milestone for the Royal Navy as HMS Glasgow was formally named by the Princess of Wales. Glasgow is the first of eight new Type 26 anti-submarine frigates. She is expected to be fully operational by 2028, with the remaining seven entering service at regular intervals through the early 2030s.
There is a real buzz around this ship – a sense of excitement about its potential. Some caution is required here. Spec sheets – essentially the sales brochure outlining the dozens of systems the ship is supposed to have – never tell the full story. Warships like this are so complex, with systems so intertwined they almost become living organisms, that I don’t think you can truly judge their quality until they have fully settled into service.
Caution aside, I hope the optimism is justified, because there are several compelling reasons we need this ship to be a good one.
First, anti-submarine warfare (ASW) remains a cornerstone of our naval strategy. From protecting the Nuclear Deterrent to defending critical underwater infrastructure around the UK and abroad, to detecting and if necessary neutralising enemy submarines, this capability is only becoming more vital. It should be central not just to the Navy’s thinking, but to the nation’s. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/05/24/type-26-frigate-princess-kate-launch-royal-navy-russian-sub/
Chris Knight
47 min ago
Agreed, anti submarine warfare is a vital task of the RN. Thus we need ships in quantity and quality capable of winning the battle and protecting UK and trade routes
Last time we lost ships was in the Falklands War.
A missile delivered from a fighter caused the loss of HMS Sheffield, Monmouth, Antelope and Ardent, if memory serves., as well as Atlantic Conveyer and Sir Galahad.
What lessons have been learned? Are these latest ships well protected?
There's a big crowing about them but the technology is late and not battle tested and the armament is old and under equipped. There's talk amongst my defence contractor pals of not having anti missile defence and a limited anti sub offensive complement.
A big problem we have is the MoD is fighting the last war – Trafalgar, in this case. Russian submarines are the least of our worries. The dindu invasion is far more dangerous.
It's 43 years since the Falklands – what have they been doing since then?
Seems like hoping for the best, whilst not preparing for the worst…
Having a quick look on line for how the Great British Strike is being reported and it seems the trouble-maker left-wing Activists in their masks turned out to cause trouble in Bristol. They just can’t help themselves, can they?
What's the betting Plod gives them the softly-softly treatment?
I never bet unless it's a sure thing – of corse they will. Only when the Left are beaten around the face and sent away broken and bloody nosed will they learn they're thugs and someone else carries a bigger stick.
Absolutely beautiful evening: Bright sunshine, warmish, clear sky, sunshining in the forest… lovely!
Almost no darkness at night these days, useful when one needs a pee at 03:00, don't need to switch the light on to avoid stepping on the cat!
It's been cold and grey all day here.
Here too. Now high winds/rain.
We need the rain. Google weather is forecsting rain on my phone.
Us too. Lightening forecast for tmrw. And more rain…
That's a very specific weather forecast – would it be a good idea to put the phone under cover so it doesn't get rained on? :o)
Probably.
Absolutely beautiful evening: Bright sunshine, warmish, clear sky, sunshining in the forest… lovely!
Almost no darkness at night these days, useful when one needs a pee at 03:00, don't need to switch the light on to avoid stepping on the cat!
SWMBO watching the Albert Hole on YT: Land of Hope & Glory, Land of the Free – propaganda, all of it.
And you have no idea how much I hated posting that.
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Deliberately showing the cockerel on his head?
Great minds, N….😂
How is it that SWMBO puts everything in between the clock and me in the bedroom, so when I want to see the time, there's somethin blocking my view? Argh!
How is it that SWMBO puts everything in between the clock and me in the bedroom, so when I want to see the time, there's somethin blocking my view? Argh!
Hmmm https://x.com/BeardedBob7282/status/1926360554605592748
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Hamas will be wetting themselves with pleasure after this appalling tragedy.
The propaganda opportunities are endless.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14746383/Israeli-strike-kills-NINE-Palestinian-doctors-children-Gaza.html
Posted on X-Tw@ter & Faceache. https://x.com/BeardedBob7282/status/1926363407231406499
A cynic might wonder whether the family was "placed" in a potential Israeli target, Hamas hoping for such a result.
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This cynic would agree!
And what a dreadful world it has become; when such thoughts gain traction.
Indeed.
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You'd think someone of his calibre might have sent his family to safety.
What makes you think he had any choice???
Allowed or was perhaps coerced into allowing his children to become human shields and propaganda fodder.
It's all dreadful what is happening in that part of the middle east.
But it was far worse during the second World War when the Germans were rounding up Jewish people and cold bloodedly murdering them by the thousands.
Obviously they have learned the hard way how to protect themselves now. But you have to ask exactly why, now the muslims are trying to wipe them out. And who is supplying hamas with weapons to do so. There is no gain at all for mankind with these actions, only death.
Weapons source? Iran.
But….Why are they being allowed to get away with this. Joint global forces should come together and nuke them.
True, but Hamas would happily do the same as the Germans, as they have demonstrated.
And as they are doing, as instructed by the Islamic union.
I remember reading that Hitler had a squadron of Islamics at one stage.
Hamas outline this as a strategy in their literature.
They truly are scum of the earth.
406179+up ticks,
Pillow Ponder,
Are the tribal voters taking heed, these odious political paedophile umbrella holders, council members, policemen,
did NOT, in the main elect themselves to office, they were elected
& reelected time and again.
https://x.com/JamesMelville/status/1926364370302357768
That'll be his front door smashed in….
Well said.
"It's not my business," he starts.
Stop apologising, Mr. P. It's everybody's business.
Fools seldom differ.
Sorry, open goal; irresistible.
Oh dear….not the nice guy I thought…..
Rude boy. Resistable.
Got that one wrong, and that's a given.
No – he's not a nice guy!
It’s the ones pretend to be are the worst, N…
And never pretended to be, unlike some…
Blimey, sos! You kept that quiet!🤣
Nah, none of you were listening!
Assuming the best of people is a grave error.
Yes it is, but I'd say majority are good on this site, Geoff wouldn't have it any other way. Sorry if you had a bad day.
Well it did brighten up quite well this afternoon with some sun, but it's now raining, but after the dry spell we've had, I'm not complaining too much.
And that is me for the day.
Goodnight all.
And it's goodnight from me.
I had a lovely photo earlier this afternoon from number two (not Arizona) son, of our two little grandchildren on the beach at Mawgan Porth with buckets and spades. 5 year old big brother and 18 month little sister holding hands on the sand. God bless them. Fast asleep by now.
Goodnight all Nottlers 😴
Night night Eddy,
Raining here , just started .
Sleep well. Sweet dreams .
evening all. Late to the party tonight.
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Charles Hymas
Home Affairs Editor.
Isaac Crowson
24 May 2025 4:30pm BST
The number of Muslim prisoners involved in attacks on officers has more than doubled in four years to nearly eight a day, official figures have revealed.
The data from the Ministry of Justice (MoJ), published in the wake of the stabbing of three officers by the brother of the Manchester Arena bomber, show there were 2,916 attacks on staff by Muslim prisoners in 2024, up from 1,393 in 2020.
Muslim prisoners accounted for more than a quarter of the 11,180 inmate attacks in 2024 – with a disproportionately higher number relative to their prison population in England and Wales.
The 2,916 attacks on staff represented a rate of just over 18 assaults for every 100 members of the Muslim prison population, compared with 12.6 for the 4,955 assaults on staff by Christian prisoners.
Prof Ian Acheson, a former prison governor who advised the Government on extremism in jails, said the general rise in violence was “much more pronounced” among those who identified as Muslims.
“In my view, this is because of a general collapse of authority and order due to poor training, leadership, resourcing and overcrowding. There seems to be a more oppositional environment generally,” he said.
“But it is possible that the rise of Muslim gangs and their visibility across the high security prison estate, where there is a constant struggle for power and space has had an additional impact.”
A 2023 report by the terrorism watchdog said the prison service had failed to recognise the dangers Islamist gangs posed in prisons. It added that prison staff were so concerned with being labelled as racist that Muslim terrorists had been able to seize control of wings and set up sharia courts behind bars.
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Prof Acheson said it was more important to record incidents motivated by faith or ideology than simply record the ethnicity or religion of assailants, as he recommended in his 2016 report.
Recent wave of violence
In April, Hashem Abedi, 28, who is serving a 55-year sentence for 22 murders for his part in the Manchester Arena bombing, attacked three prison officers with two makeshift knives and boiling cooking oil in a special separation unit for Islamist extremists in HMP Frankland. Two officers suffered life-threatening injuries.
In May, Axel Rudakubana, the man who killed three girls in Southport, allegedly used a kettle to pour boiling water over an officer at HMP Belmarsh in south London, where he is currently being held.
Shabana Mahmood, the Justice Secretary, has ordered a review into ways of segregating dangerous offenders including Islamist terrorists in the wake of the attacks.
Data obtained by Maslaha, a Muslim charity, found prison officers were more likely to use force against Muslim inmates than other prisoners.
The official figures, obtained through freedom of information requests, showed that prisoners in eight of the nine jails with high Muslim populations were more likely to be confronted with batons, made to wear rigid bar handcuffs or deliberately held in a painful position.
The figures, which include Belmarsh, do not show whether the disproportionate use of force against Muslim prisoners by staff was a result of discrimination or because the inmates were worse behaved than others.
Maslaha said it reflected a “culture of Islamophobia and racism that runs through the prison system”, but the POA, a trade union for prison staff, maintained officers only used force as a “last resort” and in a “proportionate and reasonable” way.
An MoJ spokesman said: “We take attacks on our hard-working staff incredibly seriously. The vast majority of attacks did not involve Muslim prisoners.”
Moj sources said for all religions, the figures included attacks where there may be several prisoners involved, of whom some may not have directly assaulted an officer.
Gordon Petit
36 min ago
In many prisons, a culture of resentment among some Muslim inmates—fueled by feelings of injustice and exclusion—can create fertile ground for radicalization. The influence of groups like the Muslim Brotherhood, with its ideological emphasis on political Islam and resistance to Western systems, can deepen this sense of grievance. Within this environment, Brotherhood-inspired narratives may offer inmates a framework to channel their resentment, sometimes encouraging defiance or even violence as a form of empowerment and identity.
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Stephen Pattison
1 hr ago
Not a good chart, DT.
It says Jewish prisoners are more violent on a per prison capita basis.
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Keith Bernard
1 hr ago
Could we introduce Sharia law in prisons? It would make them less inviting. A sharia governer would ensure cohabitaion between warders and prisoners did not happen. It would probably stop miraculaous Muslim and Christian conversion during the sentence.
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aden murcutt
2 hrs ago
when will people realise isla mist s are dangerous???
I have to spell it like this because the ‘system’ deletes the realityedited
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Stephen Pattison
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B r a v o 👏👏👏
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aden murcutt
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sorry – the government wont allow this – not WOKE enough…
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Stanley Townsend
3 hrs ago
What would the Muslim authority have done.??
Gordon Petit
37 min ago
In many prisons, a culture of resentment among some Muslim inmates—fueled by feelings of injustice and exclusion—can create fertile ground for radicalization. The influence of groups like the Muslim Brotherhood, with its ideological emphasis on political Islam and resistance to Western systems, can deepen this sense of grievance. Within this environment, Brotherhood-inspired narratives may offer inmates a framework to channel their resentment, sometimes encouraging defiance or even violence as a form of empowerment and identity.
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Stephen Pattison
1 hr ago
Not a good chart, DT.
It says Jewish prisoners are more violent on a per prison capita basis.
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Keith Bernard
1 hr ago
Could we introduce Sharia law in prisons? It would make them less inviting. A sharia governer would ensure cohabitaion between warders and prisoners did not happen. It would probably stop miraculaous Muslim and Christian conversion during the sentence.
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aden murcutt
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when will people realise isla mist s are dangerous???
I have to spell it like this because the ‘system’ deletes the realityedited
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Stephen Pattison
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B r a v o 👏👏👏
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sorry – the government wont allow this – not WOKE enough…
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Stanley Townsend
3 hrs ago
What would the Muslim authority have done.??
Comment by Stephen Phillips.
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Stephen Phillips
3 hrs ago
Just deport them all to their relative countries, no appeals, no legal aid, no nothing.
Comment by Mathew Gubbins.
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Mathew Gubbins
3 hrs ago
There is an easy solution to this problem.
Just let them all out ..
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Peter Huynh
4 hrs ago
We are so tired of hearing about the 'untouchables'…
Cannot accept our British shared values and culture….??
Solution… please remove and return them to a place where they are happy to practise their version of religion of peace… and leave us all in peace……
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SA Jure
4 hrs ago
What does that graph purport to display? That the group which carries out the greatest proportion of assaults against staff in British prisons is Jewish? Who is meant to believe that?
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George Johnson
4 hrs ago
No mention of those who top the list .
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Mrs Rodgers
4 hrs ago
Send them home to finish their sentences in Libya or other sh it hole prisons
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Gary Simeral
5 hrs ago
It appears to this reader from across the pond, that the Muslim inmates are running your jails and prisons.
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Emma Hughes
5 hrs ago
The rehabilitation is going well then!! (Mr H)
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Kathryn Worthington
5 hrs ago
Why? – are Jewish people attacking prison officers?
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John Mohan
4 hrs ago
Statistically even more than Muslims, see the graph above.
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Allen Graham
5 hrs ago
I know what my choice would be. The British had trouble with these people in India during the day's of Empire. They executed a couple and wrapped their bodies in pub skin prior to burial. Problem solved.
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Michelle lancaster
5 hrs ago
The Arab owned Telegraph are deleting posts again. Diversity is our strength…
Comment by John Langley.
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John Langley
5 hrs ago
Ah, the religion of peace.
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Shirley Adams
5 hrs ago
Actually my thought while reading the article!
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Jacqueline Berkinshaw-Smith
3 hrs ago
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
(Jacqueline's significant other)
Comment by Peter Dickinson.
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Peter Dickinson
5 hrs ago
The government will solve this by ceasing the collection of data on the religious background of the attackers.
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Allen Graham
5 hrs ago
won't solve the problem only the reporting of it.
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Peter Dickinson
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To government that is a solution. What the eye doesn't see…
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Jonathan Lancastle-Smith
5 hrs ago
“Data obtained by Maslaha, a Muslim charity, found prison officers were more likely to use force against Muslim inmates than other prisoners.” – presumably in response to the disproportionate number of violent attacks against them?
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David Sisley
5 hrs ago
I dont believe the Jewish figure.
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John Mohan
5 hrs ago
I'm assuming a quirk of the statistics, very few prisoners giving extreme results.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/05/24/attacks-on-prison-officers-by-muslim-inmates-double/
Simon Heffer
24 May 2025 5:45pm BST
Simon Heffer
Britain can learn from the zeal of the French coastal authorities detaining a British catamaran fishing for whelks in its waters without a licence. It is not simply that the detention came hours after Sir Keir Starmer, in an act of abasement towards the European Union, had allowed their fishing fleets access to our waters until 2038. It is that the French still could not summon up any leniency towards us. Nor is it that the French find it far easier to detain a trawler than to stop endless rubber dinghies, filled with the victims of people smugglers, to leave their waters and head for the English coast.
No: it is that the French take the business of being French exceptionally seriously. They still have, like General de Gaulle, “une certaine idée de la France” – a certain idea of France. It is a France with a specific culture, way of life, and rights for its citizens: and the job of French officials is to enforce laws that protect these things.
To the British this now seems astonishing: for one of the main motivations Sir Keir and his colleagues seem to show in governing us is a profound disregard for, and sense of embarrassment about, anything that smacks of British rights, customs, values or traditions.
I am not condoning the breach of the law that the captain of the catamaran has allegedly committed in harvesting whelks. Had it happened in reverse, with a French trawler (before Sir Keir’s capitulation) being found pursuing crustaceans improperly in our waters, we can imagine the most likely outcome would have been a British coastguard vessel (if one could be found) heaving into view of the offending craft, with an official asking it politely through a megaphone to clear off.
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The lightness of touch of how we do things is something many find commendable and, in matters of whelk fishing, perhaps we would not want to make a spectacle of ourselves by overdoing it. The trouble is that in so much else we simply seem not to care, and operate an approach towards enforcing our borders, our customs and our rights that is not so much permissive as downright decadent.
Take another example. In recent days the French government has been asked to consider a report into the Muslim Brotherhood which it alleged, in Emmanuel Macron’s words, was practising “entryism” into French institutions, seeking to Islamify schools, local government and other French institutions from the bottom upwards. Macron, fearing the rise of Marine Le Pen’s Rassemblement National, has urged a forceful response to these claims. The far Left, predictably, has accused him and his interior minister, Bruno Retailleau, of Islamophobia. They, and most of the rest of France, have simply ignored the insult. The very idea that France and Frenchness are under assault has united most of the people behind the so-called “Islamophobes”.
Any British politician who spoke of an attempt by Islamic activists to impose their culture on ours would be condemned as a racist and kicked out of public life, irrespective of whether the assertion was true or not.
This is, after all, now a country where an old lady is warned over a preposterous “non-crime hate incident” for putting a picture of Enoch Powell in the window of her shop. It is right for us to feel anger with the French for their treatment of our trawlermen; but it would also be right for us to look at a country that unrelentingly stands up for itself and its people, and wonder whether it is not time that we did the same. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/05/24/france-shows-up-the-uks-utter-spinelessness/
Philip WRIGHT
6 min ago
France is strong… Britain is weak…. thanks to the slime ball lawyer kneelalot
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Peter Newman
7 min ago
Vive la France!
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Sensum Communem
8 min ago
Excellent article Simon and right on the button.
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Ian Baldry
19 min ago
Possibly Simon that’s now the appeal rightly or wrongly of Reform UK.
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Asterix *
20 min ago
Starmer and Labour are not fit to Govern our great country . They have debased our past and are ruining our children’s futures.
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Terence McCaffery
22 min ago
The picture in this article speaks volumes. Macron pointing out that Starmer may have lost something! If he ever had whatever M. Macron my be suggesting that he has lost. Starmer has shown absolute contempt for the British people. He cares nothing for democracy. As a country we cannot allow him to stay as our leader for another four years.
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John Garven
8 min ago
Certainly missing most of his marbles!
Labour Left ‘at war’ with Starmer’s new right-hand woman
Liz Lloyd, former ‘fixer’ for Tony Blair, is back in No 10 and ruffling feathers
Ethan Croft
24 May 2025 8:20pm BST
Morgan McSweeney may have gained unwanted fame in Westminster as Sir Keir Starmer’s ruthless and wily adviser, but he is not the only behind-the-scenes figure ruffling feathers.
After conversations with well-placed sources, The Telegraph has uncovered government tensions over the influence of a new top adviser: Liz Lloyd, Sir Tony Blair’s former fixer, who has returned to the top of the Government after nearly two decades to help Sir Keir Starmer turn Labour’s fortunes around.
Though Ms Lloyd has largely operated behind the scenes, avoiding the media attention of her influential colleague Mr McSweeney, she has been making waves since she was appointed by Sir Keir in January as his “head of policy delivery”, a drab title that in fact carries considerable influence.
L Day
21 min ago
Surely the damage is done. Unless Starmer gets our Armed forces to actually declare war on the UK and aim our missiles at us… I really don't know what he can do that is more destructive and socialist hate filled than what he has already done.
Betrayal of women
Betrayal of Brexit
Paying billions to other countries
Destroying the only schools that actually work
Betrayal of all legal citizen non Muslims
Mass judicial corruption
Destruction of free speech
Corrupt DEI, corrupt practices
Massive waste of public expenses
The UK is absolutely and fundamentally lost. We are a walking dead Muslim State in 25 years due to a backwards dead eyed cruel culture that accepts the rape of women and children and an un controlled unskilled uneducated population explosion which is unalterable now. I hope I am well and truly gone when this happens.
Heart breaking.
Bedtime for Elsie. Good night chums, sleep well, and see you all tomorrow morning.
Good morning, all – Sunday’s new page is here .
Blimey, Geoff! Quick off the mark!
Thank you Geoff.