Saturday 25 June: If Boris Johnson won’t accept the by-election verdict, then Tory MPs must force him out

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  1. Mixed response in the DT letters to what to do about Boris’s reluctance to step down. He should go quietly.

    1. He should, but he won’t. Having superglued himself to the door of No 10 he will have to be forced out. A statesman would have resigned, but of course he isn’t.

      ‘Morning, Clyde.

  4. If Boris Johnson won’t accept the by-election verdict, then Tory MPs must force him out

    I only want Boris to stay because I always take the opposite opinion of what the mainstream media and establishment wants.
    Nobody is really saying what they want to do when he is replaced for some reason.

    1. The Labour vote was down by 8,000 in Wakefield and they lost their deposit in Tiverton; whilst the Lib Dim ‘protest vote’ did ok in Tiverton, they lost their deposit in Wakefield. Two seats is two seats but to give it some perspective, Micron lost 100 seats last week. Bozo has no need to panic.

      1. ‘Morning, Feargal.

        SIR – The Lib Dems polled 1.8 per cent in Wakefield and Labour 3.7 per cent in Tiverton and Honiton, with turnouts of 39 per cent and 52 per cent respectively. This is a victory for tactical voting, and a result unlikely to be repeated at a general election.

        However, the public must expect a similar outcome could well result in a coalition of chaos even worse than President Macron’s in France – plus the real possibility of Nicola Sturgeon’s SNP in a powerful role as kingmaker.

        In addition, the process of rejoining the single market and eventually regaining full EU membership would be set in motion.

        Chris Hunt
        Swanley, Kent

          1. We must have. I just heard Boris say ‘We got Brexit done’ on the radio a few minutes ago. He wouldn’t lie to us would he?

          2. I’m sure Bozo, like most politicians, has a ‘press-to-play’ button that spouts political homilies in an effort to sound to their potential voters as if traction has been gained.

  7. The West must hold its nerve: Ukraine is the skirmish before the real war. 24 June 2022.

    Our nations must mobilise around the values we have taken for granted for the last seventy years.

    Since our leaders have abandoned these in favour of Cultural Marxism it would appear to be an impossible task. Vladimir Putin is more an exemplar of those values than any leader in the West.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/24/west-must-hold-nerve-ukraine-skirmish-real-war/

    1. The ‘real war’ has been in play for decades but IMO the declaration of war became public with the start of the covid scam. The tyrannical nutters in the WEF and associated elitist groups have stepped out of the shadows and into the light on the back of a so-called pandemic. This is the real war and our society, culture and our very lives depend on putting down the rabid scum and their acolytes that infest our our governments and institutions.

  8. Seems that someone shot up a gay pub in Oslo in the early hours of today with a machine pistol. Two dead, several injured. Pride parade still going ahead.

      1. Don’t think I could deal with that very well! I love the idea of white nights, but wake with dawn and rest when the sun sets, especially living in a caravan, and I’m getting little enough sleep in England!

        1. I like it – the light gives me energy, and there’s plenty of dark later in the year to sleep in!

          1. I’m solar-powered, too – might have to hop over and give not sleeping a try at some point!

    2. That Norwegian chap called Dave is always causing problems on a Friday.

  9. Good morning NoTTLers, just a quick line before I head off to the monthly medal…if I play anything like I did on Thursday, I’ll be home by 09.00.

  10. Tony Blair ‘absolutely ruined our country’ as UK ‘facing consequences’ of New Labour rule. 24 June 2022.

    Mr Taylor told Talk TV: “His open borders policy has absolutely ruined our country.

    “It has attacked our culture and our way of life.

    “He wanted to be the president of the European Union.

    “I did believe in Tony Blair’s premiership, and what we’re seeing right now are the consequences and the cost of what he did back then when he was the Prime Minister of this country.

    They are all seeing the light now we are facing total catastrophe!

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1630143/Tony-Blair-open-borders-policy-UK-poverty-European-Union-vn

  13. Read it and weep:

    “SIR – Brexit is lost. Speaking on GB News, Sir Vince Cable said he expects single market and customs union membership to be restored in five to 10 years. Both will be achieved, along with euro-currency membership, by undemocratic parliamentary stealth. There will be no further referendums on EU membership; the untrustworthy electorate will not be consulted.

    The Brexit vehicle sits on jacks, its wheels off, its engine in pieces, tools lying unused and rusting on the unswept floor, the mechanic nowhere to be found. Remainers have won. Northern Ireland and Scotland are lost; the Union is doomed.

    Overwhelmed by chaos in the face of a task beyond his capabilities, Boris Johnson has failed us all. What a disaster. What an epitaph. I thank God I have no children.”

  14. Morning, all. Another bright start to the day in N Essex.

    Arch hypocrite and wanna be tyrant Trudeau jumps in on the USA’s Supreme Court’s Wade v Roe (abortion) decision.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7b148dc2205c1ec85fc8f7c5c9dbc540587afde5eda6cf3462074aec2bae8930.png

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5bbb2ed995e4c269dfed31f334d68e37648e0c7a241a0adeb4ef06067e4af450.png

    Bodily autonomy as a right doesn’t seem to mean quite what it should to some very confused people.

    https://twitter.com/FiveTimesAugust/status/1540391578560249859

    1. It is ironic that the very people who hoarsely proclaim:

      “My body, my choice.”

      are often the first to proclaim that the untested Covid Jabs with potentially disastrous side-effects should be compulsory.

    2. What about truck drivers who disagree with your policies, Fidel Junior? Are they allowed to choose what to do with their bank balances?

  15. And amen to this:

    “ SIR – I have no doubt that the Tories will once again view these dismal results from the wrong end of the telescope. While no one can doubt that the behaviour of our Prime Minister has raised serious questions, it is the Conservative Party and its desire to follow non-conservative policy which is the greatest issue.

    Tax rises, no apparent desire to control spending, government departments in the stone age and the ideology of net zero at any cost have sent ordinary Conservatives running to other parties.”

    1. It is the same with every new Government of whatever stripe. We begin with hope and optimism and end up near suicidal with despair. We haven’t been governed properly since Margaret Thatcher.

      1. Junk the lot and start from a blank sheet.
        What is government for?
        What should it do?
        How should it work?
        What resource should it have?
        How do we hold their feet to the fire?

  17. Great Britain is decaying before our eyes. 24 June 2022.

    Britain isn’t working – and that’s surely the main reason why the Conservatives lost Tiverton and Honiton and Wakefield.

    Debating whether Boris Johnson is still the Tories’ prize pooch is a bit of a dead cat right now. Because in reality these results speak less about “Big Dog” and more to the growing sense that our beloved country is going to the dogs.

    I suppose that it is something that a Tellygraff journalist has finally noticed but she is still using the wrong tense. It has already decayed. We are simply waiting for the final collapse into anarchy and then the Great Reset.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/24/great-britain-decaying-eyes/

  18. Funny Old World

    I await the condemation of Spain by the various courts and “human rights” brigade……..

    “18 dead after migrants storm border between Morocco and Spanish enclave”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/06/24/violent-assault-migrants-storm-border-gates-morocco-spain/
    The BTL attitude can be summed up as…..Finally
    After All,the Spanish know just how difficult a “Reconquista” is after Moslem invasion perhaps we could learn a few lessons……….

    2. Remember the much used and extremely appropriate old saying RR, Lions led by donkeys.
      This is why our country has been deliberately and constantly effed up by our useless and pathetic ‘leaders’.
      A complete clear out is long overdue.

      Apologies to all the real and hard working donkeys. 🐴

  19. ‘Morning, Peeps. Warm, dry and sunny here, and a bit humid. Once again the promised rain failed to materialise.

    SIR – I commend this explanation of integrity to the Prime Minister. It is taken from the leadership handbook of the Rifles Regiment.

    “Integrity is the value without which one cannot be a true leader of men. It means that a leader must be genuine and utterly sound, be honest to himself and others and have no trace of hypocrisy. It involves taking responsibility for things that are his fault. It means not betraying a trust, even when it may now be an accepted part of civil society’s culture or norm to do so. It is unshakeable soundness of moral character. Leaders are expected to know what is right and wrong and instil this value within their commands.”

    Colonel R P Cousens (retd)
    Warminster, Wiltshire

    Spot on, Col Cousens!

      1. I saw that the other day TB it’s so typical of the media and all the rest of those complete divots who always claim to be right in every aspect, and already know everything.

      2. The owners of the media organisations now dictate policy. Honest journalism and truth, are not compatible with the workings of the New World Order and those going along with it.

    2. As I look at the current crop of politicians, what I fail to see is anyone who could be described as a leader.

  20. 353453+ up ticks,

    Morning Each,

    Johnson won’t accept the by-election verdict, then Tory MPs must force him out

    The johnson chap is currently 1/75 of the problem, if he is removed two more odious heads will be revealed the political hydra don’t frick about.

    The whole lab/lib/con coalition are on a nice little earner as long as the majority catty on the same voting pattern is upheld with NO build on a fringe party opposition.

    Much to much emphasis is put on the party winning regardless of
    the following destruction to the fabric of society in the wake of winning,as in mass uncontrolled immigration / foreign paedophilia / mass murder / mayhem. manipulating lies & deceit, treachery.

    The way I do see it in one instance is if a child is defiled in John o groats
    by any paedophile especially then that should bring about great concern [n Lands end.

    Instead we are reshuffling the same treacherous tripe in the ” my party
    lab/lib/con must win mode” regardless of the nauseating future guaranteed fallout.

    To be sure this electorate had better urgently follow through ongoing with building a credible opposition party, because they, the majority have certainly followed through in their collective trousers these past 40 years.

  21. SIR – Boris Johnson says he’s listening to the voters and is going to carry on. That means he’s not listening to the voters.

    Jo Stevens
    Glastonbury, Somerset

    He’s far too arrogant to listen, but unless he is dumped pdq there is the very real prospect of a political disaster by May ’24.

  22. SIR – Irrespective of the consequences, it is likely that as a matter of principle a significant number of traditional Conservative supporters would abstain from voting if Boris Johnson is still the Prime Minister at the next general election. I am one of them.

    Philip Mathias
    Southsea, Hampshire

    Well said, Sir.

    1. Presumably then he would vote for a Gove or Hunt led Tory party. Not much difference in the party’s direction in my opinion.

      1. There is a very remote chance that the Conservatives could win the next election if Lord Frost is prime minister and Brexit has been properly completed with no NI Protocol, no ECHR and British fishermen exclusively fishing in British waters. Hunt, Gove Squalid Jawdrip or Truss would lead to total extinction of the party.

    2. “……. And see what discord follows.”

      Which reminds me I need to buy some more guitar strings.

  23. SIR – Brexit is lost. Speaking on GB News, Sir Vince Cable said he expects single market and customs union membership to be restored in five to 10 years. Both will be achieved, along with euro-currency membership, by undemocratic parliamentary stealth. There will be no further referendums on EU membership; the untrustworthy electorate will not be consulted.

    The Brexit vehicle sits on jacks, its wheels off, its engine in pieces, tools lying unused and rusting on the unswept floor, the mechanic nowhere to be found. Remainers have won. Northern Ireland and Scotland are lost; the Union is doomed.

    Overwhelmed by chaos in the face of a task beyond his capabilities, Boris Johnson has failed us all. What a disaster. What an epitaph. I thank God I have no children.

    Adrian Barrett
    Haywards Heath, West Sussex

    Since when was Cable right about anything? Get a grip, man!

        1. Oh no, so sorry.. oh dear .

          I will take that down ..
          The wild grassy verges on roads , on roundabouts , that are blotting out the safe view we all should have on our roads .

    2. Good Point. I wrote to my MP about the privatisation of the Royal Mail, the which was being promoted by Cable. The figures used to justify it were carefully selected and were very misleading, deliberately so. Cable is a liar.

    3. Cable and Witless is usually wrong but unless the Conservatives act very quickly to get Brexit properly done then he may not be that wrong this time and the Brexit dream will be no more than a nightmare.

      There must be a beginning of any great matter, but the continuing unto the end until it be thoroughly finished yields the true glory.

      If he had gone to a decent school Boris Johnson would have heard Sir Francis Drake’s prayer often declaimed in chapel. There is no glory in the messed up shambles that he always leaves in his wake

  24. Morning all😃.
    Bore-us is missing another opportunity as he usually does. He should stay in Rwanda and to encourage others speak of its obvious benefits.

  25. SIR – Carrie Johnson describes herself as a “political and climate change activist”. Her influence and that of her friends on the Prime Minister has led to a destructive net-zero agenda that is having a devastating effect on the income of the general public.

    If Germany can row back on its green agenda, so should Boris Johnson. It is time for him to cut green subsidies, fuel duty and VAT. The haste of this agenda is causing misery and poverty to voters of all stripes.

    Stefan Reszczynski
    Margate, Kent

    She has him by the balls and does not plan to let go, come what may!

    2. She will probably go down in history (if there is still anybody around to write history) as one of the most disastrous and corrupting political influences Britain ever suffered.

      1. She’s making Cherie seem a positively modest and retiring embracer of personal poverty.

    1. Morning T-B
      It is time some polling company assessed the willingness to support the unpleasant changes to our lives planned for Net Zero without the government seeking the consent of the public. For example I don’t want vehicles to be powered by batteries nor my efficient gas boiler to be replaced by a heat pump. I am sure there are many others who are similarly minded.

    2. When that song from Evita was all the rage I always modified the lyrics to: Don’t laugh at me, Venezuela.

      1. Yep! Fit and well. Now nearer to 90 than 80. If I make 90 there will have to be a public enquiry to find out how it was allowed to happen. 😃

    2. Good morning DB

      I expect you welcomed the rain last night , we did , although I think it just bounced off the dry grass and garden .

      Breezy and chilly here .

      1. It is o930 and the sun is trying to burn through the clouds. We have a league match at Lymington this afternoon.

  29. Martin Selves has posted an excellent BTL comment today:

    Martin Selves
    55 MIN AGO
    I put a lot of blame on Boris. He is responsible for Brexit unfinished, or even started. For example the loss of Border controls is extraordinary. 1 million arrive every year now. The NI problem is so very important to many in NI and in England, and is unfinished. His policy on Net Zero, the imposition of heat pumps, electric cars, a huge increase in wind farms, the obstruction to fracking and energy self sufficiency are not widely supported. The uncontained rise of WOKE, and the inability of the Politicians and Police to unglue protestors from our motorways or stop the Police taking the knee to BLM is unpopular.
    There is a growing anger the Conservatives have gone Green big time, and they ignore the real reasons for unrest in the Country with side spin, and they blame short term problems on the lack of housing and the cost of living. With 1 million people coming into the Country every year, the extra housing plan will never keep up, This is a diversionary tactic.
    The cost of living revolves around fuel prices where for every £100 of fuel bought at the pump, HMG take £55 plus in fuel duty and VAT. They should do something about this. It fails to mention the EU continue to hurt us at every turn, and Boris calls them our friends.
    We need to start winning. The Country does not feel we are. The Conservatives need a Leader who is full on Brexit and does not dither and dawdle when action is needed. Boris always incentivise with his speeches, but we know action never seem to follow. It is a hologram of what we expected. We want the real Conservatives, we want low taxes, we want the real Brexit and we need it very soon.

    3. I wonder how much better things would have been if Boris had not been seduced by Carrie Symonds and if Dominic Cummings were still in place to stop the fat man’s slobber and jelly belly from wobbling?

    4. Sadly I’m beginning to hate my own country and what its becoming. And all because of a handful of horrible creatures we have to refer to as politicians. They are useless.

      1. Morning Eddy..

        You have grandchildren of whom you adore.

        I felt terrible when I realised I had subjected my children to the left wing dogma taught by their teachers at school during the Thatcher era

        Private school fees escalated , so sadly they went to state schools .. State Teachers belonged to the far left .

        1. My boys got the same at Weegie schools, but very quickly saw through it. They just kept schtumm at school.

          1. If i remember correctly one of the reasons I left school at 15 and a half was because of all religious BS we had to put up with.
            And now the Christian faith has become woke, fore sight or what ?

        2. I had the same experience with my teachers. Scruffy hippies most of them. My history teacher was a ranting Marxist. Never learned anything from him.

        3. Our Two elder sons went to a recently ex grammar which had retained the teaching staff and ethos was and all boys. But now it’s become too interested in diversity and it’s been ruined and yet another dopey wokey none male is in charge and anything seems to go.
          Our youngest saw this coming his school had a head with a very good educational reputation but soon after he joined the school the head guy left and became a member of the Blair government. But they all have good jobs now.

    5. Selves’s comment is fine, as far as it goes, but he misses the ‘elephant in the room’ by not mentioning it. Notwithstanding that Johnson is a completely useless prat, he has an umbilical cord linked to the globalist cause and therefore is following globalist policies. Brexit is anti-globalist in the extreme and that is why Johnson hasn’t merely failed, patently, he hasn’t even tried. Replacing one PM who holds globalist views with another one holding the same views will solve nothing. There may be a bit of tinkering here and there to try and put people off the scent but the overall direction of travel will be the same. The whole Cabinet needs to be flushed down the toilet but who will replace those failures? Is the Tory cohort of MPs replete with talent and concern for the people and the Country? One must live in hope and perhaps a new, non-aligned with the globalists, leader can be found who will shake up the lethargic and self-serving Tory Parliamentary Party.

      1. There was a video posted here the other day with a clip of Schwab talking about having dinner with Cameron and what they discussed. Whoever moves into No.10 will receive the invite and it probably comes laced with threats.

  30. Boris is currently being interviewed on Radio 4 and making a complete arse of himself. More than ten minutes of waffle, bumble and dissimulation. The sooner he is replaced the better.

      1. Certainly not that body of water that surrounds us. Sold to the EU and the gimmegrunts.

          1. Boris receives the acclaimation of the WEF and that’s enough for any traitor, undermining the country.

          2. Time to re-instate the Treason Act, repealed by the traitor Blair – small wonder – he knew he would be hauled up for his actions, under that law.

          3. …and make it retrospective to include, Blair, Cameron/Clegg, May and Johnson – all culpable.

          4. I don’t think he repealed the Treason Act as such, he just removed the death penalty attached to it.

          5. What Johnson gets is immaterial to the welfare of the country – in fact one might say that any benefit to the country is in inverse proportion to the individual grandstanding of that oaf.

          6. To him it’s very material and relevant. Think what it does to his over-inflated ego.

  32. 353453+ up ticks,

    Morning Each,

    Johnson won’t accept the by-election verdict, then Tory MPs must force him out

    The johnson chap is currently 1/75 of the problem, if he is removed two more odious heads will be revealed the political hydra don’t frick about.

    The whole lab/lib/con coalition are on a nice little earner as long as the majority catty on the same voting pattern is upheld with NO build on a fringe party opposition.

    Much to much emphasis is put on the party winning regardless of
    the following destruction to the fabric of society in the wake of winning,as in mass uncontrolled immigration / foreign paedophilia / mass murder / mayhem. manipulating lies & deceit, treachery.

    The way I do see it in one instance is if a child is defiled in John o groats
    by any paedophile especially then that should bring about great concern [n Lands end.

    Instead we are reshuffling the same treacherous tripe in the ” my party
    lab/lib/con must win mode” regardless of the nauseating future guaranteed fallout.

    To be sure this electorate had better urgently follow through ongoing with building a credible opposition party, because they, the majority have certainly followed through in their collective trousers these past 40 years.

  35. Martin Lewis has been turned down for a peerage for a second time
    Martin Lewis has been turned down for a peerage for a second time – but the consumer campaigner said he hadn’t ruled out whether to apply again.

    Since when can you apply for a peerage?
    You can all get ready to start calling me Countess Cup pending my successful application.

    1. Your Cup runneth over! 😉 If you are “Countess Cup”, will you be filled with Earl Grey? 🤣

  36. Martin Lewis has been turned down for a peerage for a second time
    Martin Lewis has been turned down for a peerage for a second time – but the consumer campaigner said he hadn’t ruled out whether to apply again.

    Since when can you apply for a peerage?
    You can all get ready to start calling me Countess Cup pending my successful application.

  37. Prince at ease if states break with crown.

    The Prince of Wales yesterday gave his blessing to Commonwealth countries that want to sever ties with the Royal family, insisting that such change can be made “calmly and without rancour”. Prince Charles, 73, told prime ministers and presidents gathered for the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting in Kigali, Rwanda, that whether members wanted the Queen as head of state or to become a republic was a matter for them alone. THE Prince of Wales yesterday gave his blessing to Commonwealth countries that want to sever ties with the Royal family, insisting that such change can be made “calmly and without rancour”.

    Prince Charles, 73, told prime ministers and presidents gathered for the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting (Chogm) in Kigali, Rwanda, that whether members wanted the Queen as head of state or to become a republic was a matter for them alone.

    His comments come at a pivotal time for the Commonwealth, with countries including Jamaica and Australia raising the possibility that they could follow Barbados in removing the Queen as head of state.

    There are fears that many Commonwealth states will turn republic once the Prince becomes King, having maintained ties with the Royal family only out of respect and loyalty to the Queen.

    Conclusive proof, if ever it were needed, on my long-held theory about this bitter and self-possessed man. I am convinced that he is determined to enter the history books as the most hated, despised and useless reigning monarch since Edward II (or perhaps even John). The future George VII has made a good start, even though he is not yet king.

    1. Why? The countries are entitled to do as they wish. Whether we need to give them any support in any way is another matter.

      HMQ did a lot to support the Commonwealth, but successive governments in this country could have built upon that, instead of turning their back on the Commonwealth and sidling into a disreputable Fourth Reich. They didn’t.

      1. Indeed they are, Dukke. They may, and they will, do as they wish. My diatribe, though, is not against the Commonwealth countries. It is against the Clown Prince of the World Economic Forum who doesn’t have the hearts and minds of the Commonwealth in nearly as close a way as his mother does.

        This useless idiot continues to make the noises the WEF wishes to hear. The WEF continues to gain strength, power and succour and it is all aided by the inane (scripted) witterings of chumps like Charlie.

    2. He never comes to Rothesay to express those views, or anywhere in Scotland.

  38. Seems the gay-murderer in Oslo is called Ali and immigrated from Iran, subsequently getting a Norwegian passport. Known to the security services.

    2. I’ve just seen it on the BBC news Obs, they called it an act of terrorism. Blimey there’s a concession from them.

      1. The Pride march is cancelled – I guess in case there are more of them (and there are, thousands of the bastards).

        2. I doubt if you know of Tipping Point
          It’s a TV program I sometimes watch while sitting with a well deserved cuppa. I see it as a form of gambling and yesterday a 2019 version of it had a very obviously muslim woman taking part in the initial 4 contestant beginning. She was dressed in everything but the letter box slot. She didn’t get a single question correct therefore was first to leave having not won a penny.
          But why was she on there in the first place. They are not allowed to gamble. But there’s got to be a group of people hidden away somewhere behind all of the scenes, who are arranging for not only more muslims to become prevalent on TV screens but also black and Asian people. Individually I have no objection to anyone who has earned their place in society taking part in TV productions. But this of which I speak I find very annoying and has obviously been set up and cunningly prearranged with some sort tribal obsessions and obsessive anti Europe cultural
          propaganda involved.
          It stinks.

          1. SWMBO watches bake-off, and I’m curious about the selection criteria.
            It seems that there MUST be dark skin, gay, and weird people on the show – at least, at the beginning.

          2. Same formula …….GABOTS.
            Last three letters….O n T he S creen.
            There’s even been attempts by the bbc to get people of colour on to farming programs. They struggle because there aren’t any. So they use people of colour to present it.
            The over determined effort stands out like dogs dangly bits.

    4. Police lawyer Christian Hatlo said the suspect was being held on suspicion of murder, attempted murder and terrorism, based on the number of people targeted at multiple locations.
      “Our overall assessment is that there are grounds to believe that he wanted to cause grave fear in the population,” Mr Hatlo said.
      Mr Hatlo said the suspect’s mental health was also being investigated.

      What a surprise!
      My bold and italics

  39. 353453+ up ticks,

    Farage: Tories Have Choice Between Dumping Boris Now, or a Wipeout at Next Election

    That’s rich coming from the grand old duke center stage playing both sides
    again.

    He played a major treacherous part in putting decent peoples DOWN
    & vote splitting in a very,very, PRO johnson manner those members of the current tory IN NAME ONLY party love him as they are surely of his ilk.

    1. Two by-elections do not a general election make – and there’s always a chance that Theresa May is free.

      1. 353452+ up ticks,
        Morning Aoe,

        Blooming good pointer to how things are shaping though,
        As for treacherous treasa there should be NO Parole

        1. Morning ogga1,

          The by-election just goes to show it’s a choice between criminals who are jailed for sexual offences, surfers who watch porn whilst surfing for tractors and those who have been fined for unwittingly breaking their own rules.

          BTW did you know that Farage does’t drink beer and neither did Douglas Bader!

          1. 353453 _ up ticks,

            Aoe,

            In the case of the farage just one of many look good props,
            the BIG difference being, Group Captain Douglas Bader was, we knew which side the Group Captain was on, without a doubt.

          2. But I think Bader was just as much a loose cannon as Farage who you think doesn’t have a leg to stand on.

          3. 353453+ up ticks,

            Afternoon Aoe,
            When cannons were in daily use we needed his type, currently sadly lacking .
            The farage shows his gratitude for those that gave him a platform, via LBC
            30000 + knife casualty’s in one stroke.

            https://youtu.be/Fc7iuUHk3Yk

          4. I know you don’t like Farage but whatever his failings are he has successfully got under your skin!

            Most of us can like the people with whom we disagree just as we can dislike those with whom we agree. Of course I do not always agree with Nigel Farage but I hope this does not blind me to the fact that he sometimes presents a coherent argument well and lucidly and would it not be silly to dismiss what he says because it is he who is saying it rather than what it is he is actually saying?

          5. 353453+ up ticks,

            Afternoon R,
            The farage chap has proved his worth via that video to great many people that put their trust in him he proved NOT WORTHY of that trust.
            He also deviously put down treacherously in league wiyj yje uKiP nEc two good leaders that were coming through on a successful run of building a now MUCH needed credible party.
            Tis only tory (ino) members that find farage some sort of saviour of the party IMO yhe wjole issue is bent farage inclusive as shown via his actions.

            A CON man without the gift of the gab would be living
            on welfare.

            Talks a good fight walks a crooked mile.

    2. Wow…she is on fire. And also gave Fonda-Lyin’ both barrels in the process. Top notch!

    3. Her comment about Ursula Fonda Lyin being a “deluded narcissist” could apply to a number of other politicians, including our own dearly beloved [/sarc] Fataturk!

  41. 353453+ up ticks,

    Morning Each,

    Johnson won’t accept the by-election verdict, then Tory MPs must force him out

    The johnson chap is currently 1/75 of the problem, if he is removed two more odious heads will be revealed the political hydra don’t frick about.

    The whole lab/lib/con coalition are on a nice little earner as long as the majority catty on the same voting pattern is upheld with NO build on a fringe party opposition.

    Much to much emphasis is put on the party winning regardless of
    the following destruction to the fabric of society in the wake of winning,as in mass uncontrolled immigration / foreign paedophilia / mass murder / mayhem. manipulating lies & deceit, treachery.

    The way I do see it in one instance is if a child is defiled in John o groats
    by any paedophile especially then that should bring about great concern [n Lands end.

    Instead we are reshuffling the same treacherous tripe in the ” my party
    lab/lib/con must win mode” regardless of the nauseating future guaranteed fallout.

    To be sure this electorate had better urgently follow through ongoing with building a credible opposition party, because they, the majority have certainly followed through in their collective trousers these past 40 years.

  42. Cold and damp here today. We had a thunderstorm yesterday evening and torrential rain. We have had one glorious sunny day in the last three weeks, the rest were dull and cold and damp.

        1. Euro, Schengen, much higher contributions, separation of the UK into four states, armed forces under EU control, the list is endless, if we ever go back we’ll NEVER escape again.

          Our best hope is that the EU will collapse of its own accord and the whole rotten edifice will be consigned to history.

    2. Johnson is a will o’ the wisp character attempting to lead us into the maw of the WEF/Globalist cabal. Neither friend of the people nor bold, I am afraid.

        1. They are all keeping their heads down Plum typical of a politician, gutless.

        2. I long for the day ‘none of the above’ wins an election!

          Maybe then we’ll finally get real change.

        3. ……”He;s a cheery old card,” said Harry to Jack
          As they slogged up to Arras with rifle and pack.
          But he did for them both with his plan of attack.

          The General by S. Sassoon

  44. One of the French centre parties is now requesting that the “right to have an abortion” be written into the French Constitution. Quite interesting, as the overturning of Wade vs Roe was based on the right of an unborn child to be recognised as a US citizen and was therefore protected from harm under the US Constitution.
    That right has been the reason so many States have defined”life” as when there is a detectable heartbeat, around six weeks. After a heartbeat is detected, the baby is considered alive and therefore is a US citizen so no abortion may be carried out after that point. (A view supported by Trump. Contrariwise Biden nominally a Catholic, is saddened by the decision of the Supreme Court.)
    The President-in-waiting, Kamala Harris, yesterday described abortion as “health care” and reproductive care”. This mealy-mouthed language disguises the reality of abortion, particularly late term abortion of viable babies. One may recall anti-abortion demonstrators in Wales being prosecuted for presenting photos of the reality to the public.
    It seems likely that at some point an abortion will be carried in a pro-life State and those responsible may face criminal charges of murder, as per the US Constitution.
    Unquiet times, murderers protesting for their right to murder will be happening soon.

    1. As we know from the unfortunate case of the brain dead boy who is being kept alive ‘ on religious grounds’, a heart beat when sustained by the umbilical cord, or mechanical devices is not life.

      1. I disagree. I am always dismayed when rules, regulations and laws are based on exceptions. You will recall that exceptions pretty much formed the entire thrust of the Abortion Act in this country. (Moreover any suggestion coming from Steele should have been rejected out of hand.)

        Over 200,000 abortions in England and Wales last year. If the figures are similar to those for Scotland (which I looked at carefully ten years ago) there will be a noticeable number of females who have had more than one abortion. Abortion is used as a “contraceptive”.

        1. An alternative would be the compulsory sterilisation of males, undone only with a licence to procreate.
          Eh?
          Thought not

        2. Contraception fails sometimes.

          Three times for us in 24 years.

          I was earning well when she first became pregnant but she had one of the worst cases of Hyperemesis that the docs had seen. It lasted for the entire pregnancy 24/7 vomiting about every 2-3 minutes. Hospitalised for dehydration about 3 times. The only relief she had was when in hospital when they gave her maxalon intravenously.

          After Amy was born the doctors warned her to never get pregnant again so she said OK can I have a hysterectomy to which they said an outright no. Since then she’s been pregnant twice more, and yes we were taking precautions, she was on the pill, and I used condoms most times too, and both times we knew she was pregnant because she started throwing up constantly every 2-3 mins.

          I would have loved more kids but I didn’t have the income to support more, and I didn’t want to lose my wife which really could have been a possibility had she continued with those pregnancies. We felt we had no choice but to terminate.

          I am glad the option was available. We were not using abortion as a contraceptive despite having two of them.

          My wife is a god-fearing Catholic and she was opposed to abortion completely before the doc said if you don’t you could die. Having them definitely screwed up her mental health for a while.

          1. I’m sorry. These were terrible choices to have to make. I try to keep my comments, my arguments, impersonal. Sometimes an area can be too sensitive and does touch people on a personal level, evoking memories and emotions. I don’t ever mean to be hurtful.

          4. I’m glad I never was in that position, THayaric, to decide yes or no to abortion.
            That’s why I stay out of the discussion if I can.

          5. This is precisely the scenario for which abortion was supposed to have been legalised (only to save the life of the mother). As usual legalisation was the thin end of the wedge and now it’s pretty much abortion on demand.

    2. Abortion should be compulsory unless the woman has an excuse or permission from the state.
      Edit: this is lateral thinking, not cruelty.
      It is ironic that women protest against violence yet in the UK alone are complicit in killing 100,000 female foetuses every year.

      1. There’s no logic. I’d be surprised if there were not enough people around to adopt all these babies. Sensibly, the State should be supporting British babies, with financial aid to the mothers and so on. Yes, I know all the arguments against that*, but I do not care. If we do not have white babies the UK will case to be a white country. It may be too late even now.

        * Ne’er do wells, absent fathers careless, stupid girls, all of that. Doesn’t matter, we need the children.

        1. Judging by the number of “extremely tanned” racegoers that were shown in Royal Ascot coverage, we seem to be well on the way to being no longer a white country. Strange, though, that racegoers in Newcastle (it was the Pitman’s Derby today) were “hideously white”.

          1. Simple. Only 31% of the babies born in Newcastle had foreign-born mothers. In Ealing for example, like many London boroughs, the number of babies born to foreign-born mothers is 71%. Now that includes Poles as well as others. However, the BBC loves to show schoolchildren especially at election times. All of the children in London schools are non-white, it seems.

            https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/livebirths/bulletins/parentscountryofbirthenglandandwales/2020

          2. Just caught up on watching the Sunday Series from last Sunday. It came from Pontefract. There were 10,000 racegoers it appears and, despite ITV’s best efforts, none of them was “diverse”.

    3. Good morning Horace

      “……. particularly late term abortion of viable babies” – the majority of people who get born were ‘viable’ at the moment of conception. The process of life starts with conception and deliberate abortion is terminating that life whatever ways and arguments people use to try and avoid the issue.

      1. I agree. I am referring to the fact that some abortions involve a living breathing child dragged from the womb, sometimes dismembered in the womb. This “late term abortion” has been legal in some places with a limiting date on abortions of 24/25 weeks into gestation.

          1. I cannot find the report of the people in Wales being arrested for showing pictures. This is the reality of what the wee lassies in their T-shirts and “pro-choice” placards are demanding.

      3. Viable means can live outside of the mother’s body.

        The process of growing life starts at conception. Viability, i.e. true life, comes much later, generally between 22 and 26 weeks.

        I don’t believe an abortion under 16 weeks is killing an unborn child, it’s more like removing a tumour, removing some living tissue that will die once removed.

        The youngest prenatal baby to survive was 21 weeks in Canada in 1987.

        1. I wonder how many people were no more than a mere fertilised egg at their beginning. I must admit that I was just that 75¾ years ago.

          1. We all were, but we were all lucky enough to stay in our mothers belly until we were viable. Had you been born at 16 weeks you’d be dead not typing that post.

    4. Overturning Roe v Wade is a real problem.

      Americans have decided to go back to the days when the government owned their bodies. It was never just about abortion, it was about autonomy over your own body.

      I look forward to the first Jehova’s Witness forced into a blood transfusion they didn’t want.

  46. 353453+ up ticks,

    Gerard Batten
    @gjb2021
    ·
    18h
    Shock horror revelation! Guardian & BBC ‘journalists’ are mouthpieces of the Establishment.

    Aaron Banks won his defamation case but the judge awarded costs against him because it seems …’he’s got no good name to lose, & the lying journo should be allowed to lie about him if she likes’ – because he’s a Brexiteer I suppose.

    What a -ucking joke.

    Two Journalists for The Guardian, BBC and Channel 4 Are Unmasked as Lap Dogs for The Security State

    https://gettr.com/post/p1fkts85fe9

    2. Quick – get the Men in Black and their “flashy thing”. I need mind bleach.

      1. I think you are right. MB and I reckon she is a manic-depressive (bi-polar to you trendy young things).

        1. Sorry for the poor kids growing up in such a household. Surprised they haven’t been taken into care.

          1. Yes. It is odd. Although I don’t think KP herself would ever hurt her children, the constant procession of uncles and step-dads should raise alarm bells.
            Then you remember little Arthur Labinjo-Hughes and stop wondering.

      1. I wonder if she goes to a garage. It must take ages topping them up with a foot pump.

    12. We may mock, and I note that we all do. Some people do set themselves up. However, I also get the impression that she cares very deeply for her children, especially her son Harvey who has a number of serious congenital problems.

        1. When I was at school the 5th/6th years had supervised “free periods” were we could sit and study . I covered my library books in brown paper. I read three novels a week undisturbed, including English and Russian literature, gangster books, and a lot of science fiction. I suppose that one of the book buyers for Edinburgh Public Libraries was keen on science fiction.

    2. As I said yesterday, what percentage of the population are these homosexuals and other queer sort of folk?

      Why do they get £2.7 million in fresh funding when workers in the private sector and pensioners get not a bleedin’ lot?

      1. 353453+ up ticks,

        Afternoon NtN,

        Handouts like this have been handed out for decades this is
        nothing new and still finds favour with the majority electorate

        An example,
        https://youtu.be/yEReCN9gO14
        Last heard she was still voting lab.

    3. Defies belief. His wife must be behind this.

      Is Carrie Johnson bi-sexual or does she have to force herself against her homosexual instincts to copulate with him?

      To be frank it is beyond my imaginative powers to picture any creature of any or many genders, homosexual, heterosexual, straight, crooked, bi-sexual or pansexual wanting Boris’s fumbling hands all over him/her/them/it.

      1. 353453+ up ticks,

        Afternoon FA,
        Before the great shite storm hit the country some 40 years ago the weekend entertainment in many a pub included poofs galore, everyone knew their place and there was a place for everyone with very little trouble.

        1. Hi Ogga, not a problem then – it’s now that it gets shoved down your throat. If they’d only get on with their deviations quietly nobody would bother about them. It was illegal, then it was ‘with consent’ now it’s nearly compulsory

          1. 353453+ up ticks,

            FA,
            I do believe that currently both sides of the issue many would choose to be left in peace to get on with their lives / loves whatever.

            I’m a Chatham lad, naval town hello sailor echoed around the place & as I say very little trouble in the
            poof / straight department
            and certainly no high profile
            media highlighting.

            Live & let live was then the order of the day then.

          3. 353453+ up ticks,

            Aoe,
            Almost every post, it’s been at it for weeks, confirms for me i’m over target, also a paedophile fan, strange cove.

    7. I don’t suppose that those commonwealth leaders(?) will dress up in pretty rainbow colours go out parading round Rwanda in a pride march?

      Pity, it might focus Trudeau on something other than his rants about the US supreme court decision.

      1. Erk ….. urrgghhhh …… Visions of acres of flabby tattooed flesh; the down side of summer weather.

        1. I don’t know, the women I see have the occasional inking but they don’t tend to have acres of flabby flesh on show. It’s usually bra top, some kind of shrapnel sticking out of their navel and a summer skirt / bikini bottoms / tight leggings (often displaying a bit too much). I love this weather.

      2. I got firstborn a tee-shirt with the slogan “I support the right to bare arms” on the front.

        1. I gave my son a tee shirt with “American Idle” on it…..we were not amused.

    3. In my experience, once one has earned the right to be called an ‘old sweat’, uniform becomes more noun than adjective.

  50. Good Moaning – by the skin of my teeth.
    Bright and cool; ideal dog walking weather. But no doubt the weather conditions are all our fault; must be that cottage pie we had during the week. Beef from flatulent bovines.

        1. Yep. Three separate administrations and I can’t actually think of a minister who has served any of those three PMs and done a great job in his department.
          Perhaps Ben Wallace in Defence?

      2. You disagree that with what? That it was correct to block the demolition?

        1. Yes I disagree with that, and I disagree that Gove has done anything worthwhile.

          1. Oh dear. You’re in one of those moods. HP made a perfectly valid point which you dismissed with your usual snotty contempt.

            Gove has done something right by blocking the demolition even if he has done it for the wrong reason. Previously, he also upset the militant teaching unions, which should always the please the sensible.

            Even the likes of Gove can get something right now and then, although his Environment Bill should be for the bin.

          2. I do like Thayaric’s comments on economy and such, as he seems clear and reasonable as well as having a real grasp of it. I don’t have any grasp of it at all, but I know what I like.

          3. Why has he done something right by blocking a redevelopment in London’s premier shopping street? That building is fugly. It’s only grade 2 listed so it’s not even of great architectural importance.

            In upsetting the teachers union Gove caused an absolute abomination my daughter got caught up in. She had to repeat her lower sixth year as she spent the entire year being taught the wrong syllabus. Her entire class failed. That made her late for university going with the year below her. The school were not even apologetic, they insisted she change courses so we pulled her out and she went to college instead.

            He’s screwed up education, legal aid, the environment, everything he touches basically.

            I am not in ‘one of those moods’, I just happen to be realistic. Look back to how you all slagged me off for telling you Boris will be useless. Now look at the lot of you wishing he was gone only 3 years into his term.

          4. “…in upsetting the teachers union Gove caused an absolute abomination…”

            Nothing to do with Whitehall, forever determined to stymie Tory governments.

            “Look back to how you all slagged me off for telling you Boris will be useless. Now look at the lot of you wishing he was gone only 3 years into his term.”

            What astonishing conceit. Many of us were very wary of Johnson and he’s turned out to be an even bigger disappointment than we feared but you seem to have forgotten what was going on in 2019. What state do you think the nation would be in had he not done what he did?

            If only the political classes had listened to your advice. The nation would have been saved from itself!

          5. Yeah such a shame they never made me a SpAd. We’d have lower tax overall. Practically no tax on income and sales and we’d pay tax on land instead. This would incentivise production and discourage rent-seeking. Well assuming they listen 🙂

          8. The valuation agency who already exist and keep detailed land valuation records. It’s very workable.

            About 90% of current taxes come from production and only about 10% from rent-seeking which is why we are a country with a dwindling middle class, an overheavy working class, and a top bunch of elites. Production is discouraged and rent-seeking is positively encouraged by the fiscal system as it stands. That’s why since Thatcher houses have gone virtually ever upward in price and rents are now more than many can even earn forcing them into the poverty trap that is in-work benefits. Once mortgage rationing was ended only domestic rates kept house prices in check and they were got rid of in 1988. About 4 years later came the first buy to let mortgages and the rest is bad history.

          9. It has been commented on here many times in recent years that the relationship between the cost of living and earnings, taxes and benefits has become so distorted that many are better off on benefits than working. Indeed, this relationship is the fundamental problem with the economy. Property prices are part of that; the EU debate and migration exposed it, with the bunk-housing phenomenon and falling wages.

            How will shifting taxation from transactions to property help? What will you do with, for instance, the enormous mortgage liabilities? How will low-income pensioners cope? Do we start with a clean sheet?

            You’ve written about this many times before. I’ve never been convinced by it but we can all agree that inflated asset prices have been very damaging.

          10. Read the book, it answers most of your questions. As for low-income pensioners it’s right and fair that we defer it and take it from the estate.

          11. You’ve posted the link before. It’s a long read and not a convincing one (at least as far as I got with it the last time). Contestable theory and an enormous amount of it. How do you know it will work in practice? Someone still has to decide on property values, the great conundrum in it.

            A different from of ‘Great Reset’…

          12. https://taxjustice.net/2016/02/25/which-countries-have-a-land-value-tax/

            Read the report made for the London Mayor too. It’s linked from that page.

            It’s nothing like the great reset, I simply propose tax simplification and at the same time changing incentives so they support production rather than rent-seeking. How can that be anything other than good. Our tax code is hugely complicated and has all the wrong incentives. Production employs people. Rent-seekers can lie in bed all day. Which group should be doing better?

            The book is very interesting and one of the most important economic works so far produced. It’s right up there with Smith’s Wealth of Nations. It’s worth chewing your way through particularly as it explains the problems we face today, critiques other economic thinkers, and proposes a common-sense solution which when tried in the real world seems to have the effects that George said it would. There’s not much economists agree on, but almost all agree this is the fairest and most efficient form of taxation.

          13. “I simply propose tax simplification and at the same time changing incentives so they support production rather than rent-seeking.”

            Few would argue with that but you present land tax as a revolution. And who decides on the worth of land and what is done on it?

            And ‘Great Reset’ was just a little tongue-in-cheek!

          14. The local council decides best use for land be it residential, commercial, agricultural etc. and the valuation office values the land. Not so difficult to understand. Those are jobs that both currently do anyway.

            Under this regime you’d pay much less taxation than you currently do on income and everything you buy.

            Sure it takes a while for people to get their heads around the benefits of a tax regime like this because it seems unnatural to those that are used to being taxed on incomes and sales.

            This is what Winston Churchill had to say on the subject…
            https://www.landvaluetax.org/history/winston-churchill-said-it-all-better-then-we-can

          17. “…in upsetting the teachers union Gove caused an absolute abomination…”

            Nothing to do with Whitehall, forever determined to stymie Tory governments.

            “Look back to how you all slagged me off for telling you Boris will be useless. Now look at the lot of you wishing he was gone only 3 years into his term.”

            What astonishing conceit. Many of us were very wary of Johnson and he’s turned out to be an even bigger disappointment than many feared but you seem to have forgotten what was going on in 2019. What state do you think the nation would be in had he not done what he did?

            If only the political classes had listened to your advice. The nation would have been saved from itself!

          18. Please remain polite, William. Without people like Thayaric we would resemble an echo chamber. For me, hearing a differing viewpoint makes me question my own position. Which can only be a good thing.

            Gove might have got up the noses of the teaching Unions but he didn’t accomplish much, if anything.

    2. Blocked not on architectural grounds but considerations of CO2 emissions…

      1. Yes, indeed. A truly bizarre reason, and a dangerous one as it could be used to prevent the demolition /replacement of any building at any time.
        Apparently the building is not good enough to be listed. It looks all right to me, and I bet a pound to a pinch of manure that any replacement building will be very ugly, or at best, bland.

        2. I have never been a great fan of Art Deco but this is one of the better examples and is greatly preferable to any of the glass and steel boxes and phalluses that constitute modern architecture.

          4. Most buildings of that era are well constructed using quality materials. It takes an architect sympathetic to keeping the attractive bits and the skill to repurpose and re service what is left.

            I have written specifications for other architects for the retention and refurbishment of several buildings including one in Hatton Garden built in the fifties. The architects for two of these projects were Wells Mackereth based off Piccadilly in Mayfair.

  53. A good few months ago, I came across a list of hotels being used to house illegal savages. I can’t remember where I found it, possibly from a wise Nottler. I have tried doing an online search for up-to-date details but to no avail.
    We plan to stay at a Heathrow hotel the night before our upcoming trip to Canada but obviously have no desire to be in a hotel with any illegals.
    Does anyone know where I can find the information? Thank you.

      1. I think that is mostly the case but some hotels definitely had a mix. I’d bet the ‘we welcome migrants’ virtue-signallers would avoid those hotels.
        I know the Crowne Plaza just over the M4 was being used.
        If I still can’t track down the list, we will probably try the Hilton Garden which is right by terminal 2, on the basis the gubmint is unlikely to use ones that close.

    2. Find yourself a Travelodge, the visitors will not be stored in such dismal surroundings.

      1. No thank you! I’d prefer to get up at stupid-o’clock and drive down on the morning.

    3. Does anyone know where I can find the information?

      Afternoon Mum. This information is on a par with the Trident Launch Codes!

      1. Well, maybe just phone them up and ask. Inquire as to whether they have any “block bookings”, or rooms/floors let to “government agencies”.
        Or, “any wogs staying?” I do not think that they could lie as that would lay them open to a civil action.

          1. Whatever they tell you on the phone could be construed as being part of the contract.

          2. We have just been out looking at tiles (such excitement!) and my old man informed the sales bloke that we were having a “wog burner” installed! Cue much hilarity but, fortunately no polieas were involved!

      2. The people who put together the original list have probably been ‘cancelled’ or investigated for hate crimes or racism. After all, what’s not to like about sharing a hotel building with uncivilised, 3rd world savages.

      3. I looked at the location map for a Heathrow terminal 2 hotel – very close to ‘Prayer room’. I bet hardly any white skinned folk go there ……

    4. I think – off the top of my head – check Britannia Hotels and possibly Holiday Inns. Aren’t Travel Lodge and Premier Inns the other possibilities?

      2. Britannia hotels – bedbugs guaranteed for no extra charge. Holiday Inn have definitely sold out to the freeloaders.

    5. If all else fails, I’m three minutes’ walk from Wanborough station, and seven minutes’ train ride from Guildford, where one can catch the Rail Air bus to Heathrow. I’m not averse to spending a night on the sofabed so I can accommodate guests. Seriously.

      2. Thank you kind sir, that is such a kind offer. Wrong side of London from here unfortunately. Him indoors is now planning on booking the terminal 2 Hilton, with its covered walkway into the terminal.
        Then we (meaning me !) need to find a new driver. The very reliable local man we previously used found other work when convid hit. It’s not the journey down that’s a problem, it’s the 2-3 hour (traffic permitting) drive home after the overnight flight back. Some years ago, after a virtually sleepless flight back (thanks to the3/4 Year old brat which its entire extended family failed to pacify all night), traffic came to a 2 hour standstill on the M1. Lovely stuff 🙂

    1. Well American doctors don’t work for free and many of the people seeking abortions are poor.

      Government funding is about one third of their overall budget.

      I don’t see how PP makes donations, it’s a non-profit company.

      1. Ahem

        Planned Parenthood will spend $45 million on the 2020 elections, the

        nonprofit’s biggest electoral expenditure in its history, according to

        CBS News.

        The money will go toward the presidential election as well as

        congressional and state House races, according to Planned Parenthood

        Votes Executive Director Jenny Lawson, who told CBS, “The stakes have never been higher.”

        https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/abortion/478548-planned-parenthood-launches-45m-campaign-to-support-democrats-in/

  55. Carpe Jugulam’s BTL comments are well worth reading. Here is hislher comment under Charles’s Moore’s article in today’s DT.

    At what level of stupefying arrogance does it make ‘sense’ to continue with ruinously expensive Net Zero when people are struggling to pay bills?

    At what level of sheer moronic stupidity does it make sense to ban fracking and then import shale gas from across the Atlantic?

    At what level of staggering ineptitude do you consider it sensible to divert grains to ******* biofuels when the world is running out of food?!!!

    This isn’t just a government turned into a wrecking ball it is an entire political class that are scientifically illiterate, moronically stupid, witlessly arrogant and nauseatingly self-righteous.

    We are in a sorry state when our best hope is a military coup or a meteor strike on parliament. I am so sick of this wretched government I would cheer both.

          1. Not in the end. I get 2 day hangovers, so merry is fine. Good, otherwise… work, work, work, then cake and dinner out last night when Firstborn came visiting.

    3. Superb. We no longer have recognisable opposing political parties with coherent beliefs, we have a governing class that has melded into a bullying blob completely divorced from the concerns of the electorate.

    1. I love the fact that they look so grumpy and entitled.
      Still, unlike their human counterparts, at least they look up from their iPhones

  57. https://www.driving.co.uk/car-clinic/advice/2030-petrol-diesel-car-ban-12-things-need-know/

    This was the state of the car market at the beginning of the year when diesel cars were sought after as the pandemic petered out. However, not only the pandemic but the Russian invasion of Ukraine and further Chinese lockdowns have distorted the car market.

    Second hand ICE (Internal Combustion Engine) cars have been increasing in value and EVs have become more expensive since the Government prematurely halted the remaining subsidy for purely electric vehicles (PHEVs) under £32k.
    Future pricing estimates are now completely up in the air and it all depends on global events and how much the Government maintains its over ambitious targets to Net Zero.

    I don’t like the idea of using wood chips an eco way of fuelling a car but a coal fired steam car is becoming increasingly attractive particularly as the Government has done a three ooint turn on the use of coal to create energy.

    1. My cats look worn out. Mind you, they only got twenty two hours sleep yesterday.

    2. There was an article in the DM today about pets faking injuries to get more attention

      1. My GSD cross used to do that. He was attacked by another dog and his leg was injured. When it had recovered, he would limp sometimes until he’d had a fuss.

  59. Came back walking the dog sat with a cuppa and a large slice of home made lemon drizzle cake. And the last hour of Casablanca. 1942. One of my favourite films. Here’s looking at you……and an awful lot of smoking.

  60. Apropos the threat of a general strike,

    The problem of low paid workers and e.g. teachers and nurses who say they can’t afford bills is basically a vicious loop created by asking to “help the poorest”.
    If a business owner pays her workers the minimum wage, in some cities that means the workers can’t afford to live within fifty miles of the workplace and they can’t afford the commute either….either her workers all leave or she increases their pay. What happens though is that councils step in and provide free houses and benefits to them, essentially causing big market distortions and allowing the business to carry on.

    This means houses are being mis-used by people that shouldn’t be able to afford them, pushing rents up and other people will then struggle more to find a house. It means a rival business that pays staff more is penalised and out-competed (because their staff won’t get free houses) when in reality they should be the business left standing. It distorts the whole economy.

    The best way to help the poorest and the richest and everyone betwixt is to create an environment for business investment, with good law and order and encourage people to work/help themselves.

          1. Maybe – says she cautiously – Stormy should have been nobbled before Baroness Mone of BalconyBra.

    2. It is the vicious cycle of tax forcing up prices and wages rather than the market controlling them. The state makes it unaffordable to live in an area without it’s support and so as soon as it subsidises a market it forces every price up.

      Which means it then meddles more by taking ever more out of the economy and so the spiral away from market controlled systems and a tax and waste economy is perpetuated.

  61. Apropos the threat of a general strike,

    The problem of low paid workers and e.g. teachers and nurses who say they can’t afford bills is basically a vicious loop created by asking to “help the poorest”.
    If a business owner pays her workers the minimum wage, in some cities that means the workers can’t afford to live within fifty miles of the workplace and they can’t afford the commute either….either her workers all leave or she increases their pay. What happens though is that councils step in and provide free houses and benefits to them, essentially causing big market distortions and allowing the business to carry on.

    This means houses are being mis-used by people that shouldn’t be able to afford them, pushing rents up and other people will then struggle more to find a house. It means a rival business that pays staff more is penalised and out-competed (because their staff won’t get free houses) when in reality they should be the business left standing. It distorts the whole economy.

    The best way to help the poorest and the richest and everyone betwixt is to create an environment for business investment, with good law and order and encourage people to work/help themselves.

  62. The E-Consult to re-order my prescription hasn’t done so and i have run out of some of my Meds. I still have some lercanipidine which i stopped taking because it made me ill. I took one pill this morning in place of Ramipril which i don’t have and the thumping in my ears has started again. At least now i know for certain where that particular side effect comes from. Pharmacy closed until Monday and the emergency Pharmacy won’t give me anything without a prescription.

    The last time i was examined with that side effect the locum thought i had had a heart attack and sent me to Acute Medical. After another ECG which was normal and waiting around for 7 hours for the Consultant i went home.

    The NHS, the envy of no one.

    1. My husband got a text today from Boots to say his prescription, which was supposed to be ready on Thursday, is now available.
      It’s a joke. We are hoping for a long hiatus from hospitals and doctors and, I think, this may be the last prescription he will need for a while. We’ll pick it up when it suits us- he has what he needs now, thank goodness.
      Sorry you are not doing so well though 🙁

      1. Yo Ann,

        Having had to attend a neighbouring village pharmacy for repeat prescriptions, when I lived at the last place, which involved at least three buses, a five mile walk, or a taxi, I honestly recommend Pharmacy2U. I go online, tick the boxes for the repeat prescription items I need, and they turn up in the post a few days later.

        1. How do they get the prescriptions? GPs only cover a month at a time.
          Why, once medication settled and shown to be effective they can’t do 2 or 3 months cover is beyond me.
          Talk about making work for yourself and then complaining about being over-worked.

          2. You used to pick up prescriptions from our surgery as soon as they were written, then the practice manager decided he could make more money by opening a pharmacy 13 miles away. A local courier would then pick up your prescription and bring it to the surgery from where you could collect it (that is only a 4 mile round trip). That stopped and there were volunteers who would pick up your prescription and deliver it to your door. This has now stopped and I have a round trip of 30 miles to pick it up. Luckily, unless I have another reason to go to the village where the pharmacy is, someone will pick it up for me and if I’m going I always ring round to see if anyone else wants anything picked up. There is no choice, the nearest other pharmacy is 48 miles away.
            Same with the post office – the village one has shut and the one in the next village is a 12 mile round trip – and they want us to stop using our cars (there’s no public transport and no taxis)

          3. Remember most British politicians and their influencer/advisors are unaware of a world outside the M25.

          5. As far away as that? I’d say they are unaware of anything outside Westminster.

          6. My three meds are for life. Why do i need to order more?

            Just tried P2U and bolloxed up the reg. It wants me to pay for them and i am pre-paid for the year.

        2. I use Shropshire POD (prescriptions on demand, I presume). I email them with the details, they contact the surgery, the prescription gets sent to my designated chemist and they text me to tell me it’s ready. Before Covid I used to go to the surgery when I was walking past, drop off a repeat prescription request, get a prescription the next day and choose which pharmacy I took it to.

        3. I used to phone the pharmacy, say I want a repeat script, they would send an application to the GP who would send back the script and i’d get a text two to three days later that my script was ready to be picked up.

    2. Yo,Phil. All I can say is that I now use Pharmacy2u for repeat prescriptions. I tick the box for the stuff I need, the GP surgery approves it, and they send the meds in the post. Couldn’t be simpler. Of course, yourmileage may vary…

      1. There’s also Dr Doctor (although you have to pay but prescription not always needed)

        Edit – Dr Fox, not DrDoctor
        Edit again – sorry, Dr Fox mainly for STI meds and contraception 🙁
        Edit again again – DocTap is the name I was trying to remember.

    3. There are just not enough staff, Phizz.
      I have been waiting agog to see my budget for this year hoping that the OT showing up on everyone’s pay would itself argue the case that we are at least three short but no, same establishment of seven as four years ago despite all hte service changes we have had to make to cope with covid and now monkey pox (which has fallen to our department to look after)
      Everyone is exhausted.

      I do hope you get what you need though and feel better soon.

      1. I can cope with the side effects. I’m not in pain. Just worried a bit. I have developed a new pain in my leg shooting down from the groin. What i really need is an appointment with my GP but she has vanished.

        I know the people offering the front line service work extremely hard. I have seen that for myself.

        At my local general a new building is going up on the car park. Offices !

        I know you work long and extra shifts, Stormy. Don’t burn yourself out through other peoples poor efforts in correcting the situation.

        1. I have the weekend off :), as well as last weekend AND next weekend. The next thing you know I’ll be buying myself some Ferrero Rocher.

          1. Don’t eat them in bed. They make a brown mess of the sheets and people will talk.

    4. There are just not enough staff, Phizz.
      I have been waiting agog to see my budget for this year hoping that the OT showing up on everyone’s pay would itself argue the case that we are at least three short but no, same establishment of seven as four years ago despite all hte service changes we have had to make to cope with covid and now monkey pox (which has fallen to our department to look after)
      Everyone is exhausted.

      I do hope you get what you need though and feel better soon.

  63. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10952391/PICTURED-Iranian-Norwegian-terrorist-42-killed-two-Islamist-attack-Oslo-gay-bar.html

    Makes a change from a Norweigian methodist.

    We have a PM arming Ukraine against Russia – an invading force intent on taking over the country.

    Yet at home, Whitehall are determined to bring in a horde of dangerous, violent criminals.

    Someone explain to me why we are not allowed to resist this invasion and rid ourselves of the vermin enforcing it?

  64. Holy smoke; what do people see in the mirror?
    We pottered over to the Army open day on the Abbeyfield.
    Quite frankly, what was needed was not the Army but the whaling fleet. And the tattoos would have made Queequeg green with envy.
    Still, a new experience for Spartie.

    1. There was a time when officers were not allowed tattoos that would show up when in shirt sleeve order. Alas, that has gone by the wayside.

      1. These were never, ever in the Forces, let alone officers.
        In former days, some would have plied their trade along the Mersea Road or frequented squaddie pubs.

      1. Put some pots of water to boil on the stove and hang everything above. No need for a iron.

        Follow me for more tips. :@)

  66. Im off to bed. Did the wordle beforehand.

    Wordle 371 3/6

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          1. Greetings, Geoff.

            I didn’t actually post the answers, on any forum. I simply explained that there was a site that told you what the answers were going to be.

            P.S. Did you see my reply to you yesterday about all the towns called “Graham”?

          3. My cousin, Andrew Tracey, was a professor at Rhodes University in Grahamstown, South Africa.

          4. Anyone cheating would be pathetic. It’s just a bit of fun and exercises the brain a bit.

    2. I’m sulking with a 6.

      Wordle 371 6/6

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    3. Bogey Five for me …
      Wordle 371 5/6

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    5. Par 4 today.

      Wordle 371 4/6

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          1. Me too, little Bro’. Despite resembling Frankenstein’s monster today as I have removed the dressing….

          3. My husband says it looks OK- no swelling or infection. A couple of trickles of dried blood which I will clean off after more nerve tonic but it does feel a bit weird. I will put another light dressing on once the site is clean.

          5. Hopefully this will be it for you, no more nhs frustrations.

            With a bit of luck any scars will make the soon to be obligatory forehead QR code unreadable. Think of it in a positive way – ifn your Identifier cannot be scanned correctly, you could become a spy

          6. I think there will be a scar but instead of being a penguin I can be a pirate or a thug;-))

          8. I would imagine that the nhs receptionist that you crossed already has you marked down as a thuggish pirate.

            QR codes are normally black and white, it would blend in on your penguin days.

          16. I don’t enjoy slowing down….can’t be doing with it.
            I’m a Sagitarian… sign of speed and fire…
            …. enjoy being active and resent my body telling me otherwise…..Bah Humbug!

          21. A Taurean. Although I place no truck in it but oddly, the Warqueen is a bit and said that I’m a very typical sort.

          25. My Sagitarian OH is asleep in the chair with the cat on his lap. He still plays tennis though.

          27. I don’t think they use cat gut strings these days.

            He’s woken up now and is watching the cricket.

  68. Boris Johnson planned to build a £150,000 treehouse for his son Wilf at Chequers, it has been reported.

    The prime minister and his wife Carrie wanted to build the treehouse during autumn 2020 but had to pull the plug after it raised security concerns.

    The treehouse’s design included bulletproof glass but could be seen by the roadside, prompting police to warn the PM about the risks involved.

    There were discussions about having Lord Brownlow, a Tory donor ranked the 521st richest person in the UK last year, fund the project, with plans for the treehouse drawn up for the country retreat, it has been reported.

    Some No10 aides warned Mr Johnson against the project due to the cost and the matter of it being more expensive than some homes in many parts of the UK.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-planned-build-150000-27325338

      1. He is not semi-detached you know. He goes the full shilling. Total disregard for people who work for a living for survival. I wonder what corrupt favours he would have granted to the donor.

        1. Bullet-proof glass costs a packet – and there’s no point if the window is bullet-proof if the wall is not. So, whole building needs built like a prison. In a tree, so lightweight composites of kevlar… £££ kerching.

    4. £150,000 for a treehouse! Would it have had servants quarters as well as the obligatory solar powered heat pump?

    5. He’s taking the piss now, there’s never a Lee Harvey Oswald around when you need one

      1. Lord Brownlow allegedly. Boris is brilliant at spending other peoples’ money.

  69. One of today’s letters:

    SIR – Nigel Farage says the Tories have been utterly humiliated in Tiverton and Honiton. So what does he call 481 votes for the party he encouraged, Reform UK? Mark Boyle

    I always hoped UKIP would get a breakthrough in British parliamentary elections – but no matter how well they did in EU parliamentary elections they never made any headway in the elections for Westminster. And it was the same with the Brexit Party who also became the largest British political party in Brussels/Strasbourg and the spawn of the Brexit Party, the Reform Party is following in their footsteps and scoring spectacularly badly.

    Have the British electorate finally given up on Brexit – and if so was this exactly what Boris Johnson wanted to happen?

    2. I think a lot of people who don’t really follow politics think that Brexit is done and dusted and it’s old news.

      1. The truly worrying thing about that is that those people believe there was no point leaving. The state has fought repeatedly to keep us chained to the EU. It refuses to enact any of the benefits and the remoaners in the Commons, supported by the Lords all want us to rejoin.

        Every law, every tax, every law refused, the enforced tide of sewage crininal gimmigrants – they’re all to ensure Brexit is seen as a failure. The reality is big government refuses any possiblilty of it being a success.

    3. 353453+ up ticks,

      Evening R,

      Gerard Batten was, as was farage founder members of UKIP 7he difference being that Batten was true to the party throughout it’s lifespan, farage was and proved to be a treacherous Papillon.

      In Birmingham we voted bolton out ( farage mouthpiece)
      and Gerard Batten IN as leader the party had finance worries Batten asked the membership for $100000 and received in reply £300000, party into the black. 13000 new members more joining daily seemingly everyone with an English backbone wanted in, it was a success story in the making
      .
      The political rear exit party’s lab/lib/con coalition / the ukip pro tory (ino) nec and farage via the unsuspecting brexit £ 25 quid a pop members went on the march i n a vote splitting pro johnson campaign, we are currently witnessing the outcome of the 2019 gullible idiots General election,and NO BLOODY OPPOSITION.

    4. Farage runs away, when the going gets tough.He’s a silky tongued Fraud and
      has fooled many people.

    5. Because at the end of the day UKIP were just yet another flavour of a Thatcherite party.

        1. I was hoping to be spared the cookery posts…
          Co-op rhubarb crumble…recommend!
          Delicious with a soupcon of double cream…

          6. Gooseberry crumble , and a touch of custard ..

            Gooseberries are pain to prepare , but so delicious ( ready made crumble mix from Sainsbury )

          9. Not keen on goosegogs – a bit sharp for my taste, so is rhubarb. Otherwise you need to use too much sugar.

          10. Rhubarb – superb without sugar in a crumble.
            Clean teeth at the end of he meal, too!

          11. Yonks ago, I watched Raymond Blanc make a crumble; he part-bakes the flour, sugar, fat mixture on a flat tray in the oven before he scatters it onto the fruit.
            That produces a much better texture and no sogginess from the cooking fruit.

          12. You are my newest dearest friend.
            I followed his procedures for all the different elements and created the most sublime crumble in a cocktail glass, according to my guests. But i had forgotten where i got my inspiration from.

          14. Stop that!
            The layering is the most important thing….Like Tantric Sex…… erm… I meant the quality of the custard ! Argghhh…i didn’t mean that either….i meant the jelly… oh gods bury me….. :@(

          15. Elderflower cordial works better than sugar. Balances the taste profile better.

          16. That reminds me: time to go out elderflower-scrumping at my neighbour’s. Must make some cordial soon.

          17. Made mine for this year about a fortnight ago. Our elderflowers are now well past their best.

          18. I deliberately freeze small pots of elderflower cordial to poach fruit. In the depths of winter, it’s a welcome reminder of summer.

          24. Years ago my old neighbour had a golden fruit gooseberry that yielded the largest berries I’ve ever seen. When fully ripe they were marvellous. Sadly, he gave up pruning it and the bush stopped producing a decent crop.

          25. This morning I made five jars of gooseberry jelly, no pips nor skins. Tomorrow I will make a gooseberry crumble and have extra thick double cream spooned over. Home grown berries of a red variety, awful job picking them.

        2. I’m fair-to-decent, able to hold my own in the kitchen. I love these cookery posts: it’s what life is all about. More NoTTLers should be encouraged to join in.

          1. I made a very tasty scrambled egg for my lunch today
            2 eggs
            knob of butter
            Pinch of garlic salt (about a teaspoon)
            Salt
            dessert spoon of milk
            heaped dessert spoon of grated cheddar
            heaped Tablespoon of Mayonnaise
            Black pepper
            Whisk until blended then stick in the microwave for 2 minutes but take out every 20 seconds to stir.
            Edit – forgot to mention – put it in a microwavable bowl :o)

          2. Scrambled egg on toast is one of life’s little pleasures. I also like poached egg on toast.

          4. I had Eggs Benedict earlier in the year and as the Chef? knew they were stale he poached them in a half inch of water. They were flat. Never went back.

          5. Whatever floats ya boat or for that matter turns your stomach.

            Whisked eggs over a low heat with a pinch of salt (garlic or otherwise) and stir slowly. Grinds of black pepper as desired. The slower stirring the better ! Do this as the toast is toasting.

            I know you were military aviation so i will forgive you as first class in BA used to serve yellow bricks. :@)

          6. I like my scrambled eggs very soft and only just set, not firm enough to pick up on a fork. I’ve never used a microwave.

          7. Micros are good for a start to defrost to speed the process or reheating but not to cook with.

            I also start my baked spud in the micro and then it takes less time in the oven.

          8. I’ve never been tempted to buy one. The only time I’ve ever used used one was in the tea room at work, to warm up something for lunch.

          9. That’s what you have to be careful with in the microwave – take them out when they are still liquidy because they continue cooking.

          10. I don’t eat scrambled eggs, there’s just far more tasty and interesting ways to cook them.

          12. In the RAF they used powdered eggs for scrambled egg – we complained so the cooks (ha ha) sprinkled egg shells into the mix – oh yes that really fooled us

          13. I can believe that. I have bought as dry provisions a few dry goods for the long term but their chucking some shells to make it seem real wouldn’t fool anyone. They had obviously been on a course !

          14. Poisonous!

            Knob of butter? No – an ounce of butter.
            Garlic salt – never; 1 tsp of salt – lethal; 1 gm is sufficient
            Mayonnaise – never – ever.
            Microwave – never- you can’t control the texture.

            Ground black pepper should be grated on after cooking – otherwise you get a grey colouration.

            My Way – with two slices of smoked salmon (sprinkled with Cayenne pepper) is an ongoing hit with my family …

          15. You bring joy to my world of culinary tips.
            I still don’t understand why people cook with mayonnaise. I suppose because it has eggs and butter/other nasties as an emulsion it is ready to go. It isn’t !

          17. YOU NEED TO EDUCATE YOURSELF !

            That’s my banner written in felt tip when we next have lunch ! :@(

          19. Okay , but what happened to the galloping gourmet .. Peddy..

            Peddy described food so well, he must have been a good cook.

            Where is he . I hope he is alive and kicking .

          20. Though i have asked him to rejoin us i have had no response and also a block. Not just on this site but everywhere.

          23. I suggest we leave it- if Peddy wants to return, he knows where we are. All I hope is that he is OK.

    2. Just finished my medium-rare, sous-vide/BBQ rib-eye steak (I didn’t have it yesterday after all) served with asparagus and mixed salad. It was as tender as anything I’ve ever eaten.

        1. That is a hilarious negative review, “Pidgeon Feet”, but you are such a drama queen! 🤣

          1. As you now know my name and avatar you can see all my previous reviews. I don’t often give bad ones because i tend to be careful but in this case i had no choice. Another of the guests who stayed the Sunday night will be relaying his and his dear wife experience. It won’t be a good one.

            I thought Pidgeonfeet appropriate given sometimes that is all you get to eat.

          2. Hertslass and Stormy were there too. Stormy went to get herself checked at A&E after.

        2. The one immediately below gave it five stars in March. Seems to have deteriorated since then!

          3. Frankly, it was the worst lunch ever. I persevered with mine, but the beef tasted of Not Beef, the gravy would have been better offered as a sauce for the pudding, and I escaped the trots, and the subsequent trip to A&E.

            Since Fullers took over Bel & the Dragon, I’m now wary of their pubs as well.

          5. I would like you to also review your experience there. Covering your roast in a slavering of English mustard so you couldn’t taste the abomination is not what i call dining. I know invited guests don’t feel easy about complaining but it was just too dreadful. Plus i didn’t get to see Highclere ! which was the whole point for booking the place. My review was honest. I hope others who post reviews creates change for the better.

            I think i am becoming infected with the Violet Crawley virus. :@)

  71. MeMe time…. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0f97f4bdab623d910737b0177a167d278c238adcc9201da7bd1160d3f8ed0c81.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1b47707100b2e18af63660bd067712f21d1ec030a398145a2c1c5e3b39cf7922.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e4e481a3bec73c9f53fd4120e93f04a595256f7319cf818ca0d6b222a16cafc9.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f7ffe4c316bf72db692a3a19bdffc0fd738c1652d72684b2b774d4163ce24e38.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8999844008e390113abbc65dad1e91211e6dde0efadb51a75b016292b03a5ebf.jpg

    BTW. That really is Zelensky. Britain’s Got Talent.

          2. We had a good rain here last evening-smelled nice as I had the door open while I was cooking dinner. Sunny but cool today. A stiff breeze.

        3. We have one of those at the moment. Huh! We have had another whole day of rain and cloud and cold, and now clouds depart and the sun comes out.

          1. Clear sky now on the South Coast UK. Shame i don’t feel like sun bathing in the evening !

          2. It’s such a waste! Another day of summer missed, another day we won’t get back!

      2. 200.000 visitors , hundreds of staff and supporting bods , groups etc,

        Waste , poo, pee,booze food , co2.. Water , generators , solar power , trampled fields , tent city , traffic , pollution and Greta!

    1. You weren’t a fan of The Communards, then?

      Me neither…

      But it’s generally accepted that the Diocese of London would disintegrate wihout its gay clergy.

      And, in fairness, the same is prolly true of its organists.

  75. 353453+ up ticks

    Gerard Batten
    @gjb2021
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    4h
    Here’s his speech.

    “Slavery is a terrible thing that existed throughout human history. It was terrible when Africans did it to each other. When the Arabic world did it to Africans in their millions. When North Africans enslaved white people. When white people did it to Africans.

    “You have bever been slaves. I have never owned any slaves. So let’s move on. Let’s concentrate on freeing the modern day slaves in Africa, the Middle East, & elsewhere. By the way, Britain was the first major nation to abolish slavery (it was always unlawful under English Common Law) & the Royal Navy swept the slavers from the oceans. Now let’s have tea & coffee, & no more whining & virtue signalling apologetics.”

    Nah, just kidding. That is the speech he should have made.

    https://gettr.com/post/p1fpgbu3677

    1. Is slavery same as indentured servitude?
      Indentured servitude differed from slavery in that it was a form of debt bondage, meaning it was an agreed upon term of unpaid labor that usually paid off the costs of the servant’s immigration to America. Indentured servants were not paid wages but they were generally housed, clothed, and fed.

        2. Ah well. Slaves were expensive. I did some research, checking old family invoices etc. The cost of a slave, of unknown capabilities* was around £10,000 in today’s money.
          *As in, unable to read or write, or speak English (or any European language). Such a slave would have to be fed, housed, clothed and trained. That would be after they had been given some good food and had been brought back to health after the horror of the transatlantic crossing.
          Moreover, they were really no bargain, given that the African culture was for women to work and men not to. A huge culture clash with the Protestant work ethic of the plantation owners and overseers. Any slave beaten was probably beaten out of sheer exasperation.

          Oh, any slave transported to the plantation was, in effect, rescued from a much worse fate, such as being bought by Arabs and castrated, or just plain killed by his relatives.

  76. The BBC is reporting on the recent decision of the Supreme Court.
    “The US Supreme Court’s overturning of the constitutional right to abortion…”
    My understanding is that the Supreme Court overturned a previous decision. That previous decision established a precedent that abortion was legal in all States of the Union. However it was a court decision. It was not a change to the Constitution. The court cannot change the Constitution. A change to the Constitution has to be made by the Representatives and requires a resounding majority. On the contrary, the Supreme Court has just interpreted the Constitution in a particular way, that is, it has determined that the Constitution protects all Americans including those not yet born.
    (Just as a lower court has just determined that the 2nd Amendment, the right to bear arms, means just that, and not just having arms in the house.)
    Those chaps who drew up the Constitution were pretty smart.

    1. The Democrats are having hysterics over this reversal simply because Roe v Wade meant abortion was (as a right) in part federally funded. Now the States have to legislate for and contribute to funding abortions.

      2. Happy birthday yesterday, three score and ten, so into your eighth decade, onward and upward.

        I always try to wait until I see the birthday owner has posted so I can wish them well in person, as it were, but had logged off before you appeared,

        1. Thank you sos. I may have missed other comments as I think it was early morning when Rastus posted.

          We enjoyed a leisurely day after our buyers pulled out of our house sale having dithered for three months. It is easy to lose all faith in humankind when people can be so dishonest and two-faced.

          It is great that we all have this site to let off steam when disheartened or conversely share the better moments.

          1. You have my sympathy re buyers pulling out. We were selling during the 2008 crash when house prices were dropping and having delayed and delayed they dropped their offer a further 100,000 on the day we were due to sign contracts. I was unemployed and we were haemorrhaging money so had to accept.
            They were utter bastards throughout the process and even failed to pay on the completion date, as I discovered just as I was about to go under the knife for a new knee. We got a few days interest on the sum but the worry was horrendous as we were committed to a rented property and all our furniture was in store.

  78. If you will bear with me yet again, I would like to vent.
    Took off the dressing and gently began cleaning off what I assumed was simply dried blood. Then, I had a closer look- stitches- that doctor cut my face from halfway up my ear down to my cheek bone. What!
    This was not mentioned to me in any prior discussion and it isn’t on the consent form. I, maybe innocently, assumed it would be a localised surgery.
    This doctor was not honest in her representation to me, the staff at this hospital are crap and I shall not go back. My GP, who is a nice guy, can monitor it from now on.
    No wonder it is hurting again. I wonder how many other people have been lied to as the NHS rushes to catch up.
    Enough!!!

    1. A word to the wise:
      dreadful though it appears, surely it is better to have it cleared out once and for all than to have it continue?
      The doctor is likely to have made a clinical decision in the light of what was found.

      Doctors make such decisions as circumstances dictate. Stiches will fade, I know from experience on both counts.

      Good luck.

      1. Yes, but I was awake! She could have said something. I was able to respond and ask questions.

        1. Sos is right, strange though it may seem but you need to give yourself time. It will improve if the job has been done properly. Try to relax and avoid mirrors. They don’t help.

          1. The one thing I am not is vain- I have never given a shit about how I look. What has pissed me off is the behaviour at this hospital.
            Relax- oh yes…

          2. Join the queue. I have given up. No follow ups and no GP available. I have some money where i could go private but then there would be nothing but more of the same. . I hope after your facial procedure which can be always worrying works out and settles down.

          3. Our GPs this year have been OK. I switched and don’t see the guy MH sees. I prefer this other chap. Takes time with you and has no objection to husband being in there with me.
            As I have told you- can’t afford to go private- which is why, I suspect, the NHS is struggling. I bet most of the docs have gone private.

          4. I think most of the surgeons do private work as well – but it still helps to clear the backlog. If they’re seen and done, they’re no longer waiting.

        2. Were you conversing during the actual operation, could your speaking have caused additional harm, and would you have told her to stop?

  79. Evening, all. Been raining here, which has curtailed my gardening. Still, we need the rain. Some of my pots were looking very wilted.

    1. Most of mine are dead- apart from the Geraniums, which don’t need much water. We are the Dead Plants Society;-)

        1. I only watered my tomato plants this evening and left the rest. We’ve had a couple of showers which will have to do. It’s cold out there this evening.

          1. It’s surprisingly cold here, too. It’s nearly the end of June, for heaven’s sake and I’m considering whether to put on the heating! I’ll just add an extra layer bearing in mind the cost of heating oil.

          7. NASA predicted this cooling back in January 2020, a Maunder Minimum. (virtually no sunspot activity) resulting in cold weather similar to the ‘mini ice age’ of the period 1645-1715.

          8. I know what a Maunder Minimum is. In the 70s the big fear was the new Ice Age, but there’s no money in that.

          9. I remember that and as you say ‘no money’ hence if I recall “Children in UK will soon wonder what snow is” and so began the new religion of Gaia.

          10. Morning all. Off out to bowls triples day soon so shan’t be around until much later Have a lovely day.

            So NASA admits that the weather is governed by the sun – and not the U.K. government! Yeeha 💡💡💡

  81. My husband is a wise (very annoying) man. I asked his opinion about me mush….should I put a new dressing on or see how it goes. The oracle spoke and said to see how it goes tonight. So we shall see.
    Thank you all for your forbearance.

  82. And that’s goodnight from what was formerly a penguin but might become a pirate….Yo ho ho .

        1. My ‘mad’ comment was about approval of overloud concerts in rural area. Seems some are acceptable.

    3. A magnificent performance by young Macca: he is in good voice and generous to former colleagues.

      I have the greatest admiration for Paul McCartney – the greatest singer/ songwriter/ musician and composer of our age.

      He was billed for 22.30; correction;

      he is still onstage at 01.00.

      A trooper! …

      Helter, skelter time for the tents….

      1. Lacoste,

        We are transfixed by his energy , and some of his older music

        He has probably contributed to popular music more than an of us could imagine .

        Wonderful in every way.

        All done in a field !!

        Golden Slumbers to you .

  88. New pictures released to mark Armed Forces Day show the Duchess visiting Pirbright Training in November, when she spent time with the 101 Operational Sustainment Brigade at Abingdon Airfield.

    Where do they find their caption writers?
    Pirbright is not in Abingdon.

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