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Today’s letters (visible only to DT subscribers) are here:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2020/05/29/letters-help-surviving-small-craft-dunkirk-keep-ship-shape/
Donald Trump’s withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan is an unavoidable recognition of failure. Patrick Cochburn. 29 May 2020.
The American failure in Afghanistan is very real and it will be noticed in the rest of the world, preoccupied though people are by the pandemic. If the US is to retain the status of superpower, it needs to be seen as reasonably successful and competent in achieving its ends. On a much smaller scale the same is true of Britain. Nobody who witnessed the British state in action in the Iraq and Afghan wars will have been too surprised by its stumbling, poorly judged efforts to cope with the Covid-19 epidemic.
Morning everyone. It is not “reasonably successful and competent” though. The military history of the United States since the end of WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, is one of dismal failure with the added negative that the last has almost certainly brought an end to Christian Europe. None of this, one might point out, has made the slightest difference to the position of America as the richest and most powerful nation on the planet. It can afford defeat. The same cannot be said of the UK.
Britain’s military inadequacy (Afghanistan, Iraq) mirrors its Social and Political decline, is in fact an expression of this. Its politician’s attempts to manufacture a multicultural state within the EU has fatally undermined the capability, ethos and morale of what was one of the world’s great fighting forces. The requirement to fill the demands of Cultural Marxism has done the rest. The UK’s armed forces are now incapable of unilateral action and serve primarily as auxiliaries to the United States.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-afghanistan-taliban-troops-withdrawal-kabul-a9539241.html
319716+ up ticks,
Morning As,
In a nutshell, surely it is past time people power is reversed in the political selection department and used to benefit the nation.
Especially over the last four decades
the peoples have helped forge the rod
for the annual regular beating.
And not by accident but by deliberate policy. The reduction of the armed services personnel and the importation of millions of folk from different nations means that very few will respond to any ‘call to arms’. How would conscription work? Given the numbers potentially involved Internment isn’t going to be a walk in the park. There is nothing Civil about a civil war – it’s not likely to be one but a series of very bloody factional slaughters. Think Minneapolis on steroids….
Morning Stephen .
The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.
Sun Tzu.
Microangiopathy:
A disease of the capillaries (very small blood vessels), in which the capillary walls become so thick and weak that they bleed, leak protein, and slow the flow of blood. For example, diabetes predisposes to the development of microangiopathy in many areas, including the eye.
https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=7274
Having self diagnosed, with subsequent reluctant confirmation by the NHS, as having had angioedema following an adverse drug reaction to an ACE inhibitor, I have just realised the link between my symptoms and Microangiopathy in COVID-19.
Although most patients with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) predominantly have a respiratory tract infection, a proportion of patients progress to a more severe and systemic disease, characterised by treatment-resistant pyrexia, acute lung injury with acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), shock, and multiple organ dysfunction, associated with substantial mortality.1 Many patients with severe COVID-19 present with coagulation abnormalities that mimic other systemic coagulopathies associated with severe infections, such as disseminated intravascular coagulation (DIC) or thrombotic microangiopathy, but COVID-19 has distinct features.2 Coagulopathy in patients with COVID-19 is associated with an increased risk of death.3.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanhae/article/PIIS2352-3026(20)30145-9/fulltext
Good morning folks,
Cloudy start here.
So now we know.
The global response to Covid is merely a dry run for “the big one”.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8370969/The-apocalyptic-killer-virus-coming-home-roost.html
He couldn’t possibly be influenced by his own chosen diet, could he?
It wasn’t dry in my house
Scientists can’t see the elephant in the room – that’s why scientific advice to Government is questionable,
However, I have seen it coming – I saw a large elephant in the zoo and it had an enormous zoonose!
Scientists can’t see the elephant in the room – that’s why scientific advice to Government is questionable,
However, I have seen it coming – I saw a large elephant in the zoo and it had an enormous zoonose!
A lot of worried clucking about it in the House of Lords.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2e466123040e28273df4fec0b432fb1fbca5b4db2830ed873ad3c3cc952f57f7.jpg
Good morning, all. Blue skies (as usual) but a very heavy dew – as I realised when I discovered that I had left a cushion out. And an irritating east wind to dry all the watering.
I found it amusing that Mr Trump should “tweet” that he wants to ban “Twitter”.. What will he do without it?
He could post on here
I sometimes wonder whether he does already…!
Squawk!
Good morning, Mr President.
‘Morning, Bill, was the heavy dew, the one thrown out of the synagogue for eating pork scratchings during the sermon?
©The Goon Show.
‘for eating during the sermon’. Nosh unspecified.
Morning hall.
What will he put on his bonce?
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/334f23f4a2f6fc2fd0847a3d6827831ea5cee0bb6b618c747e9455126fe453a0.jpg
Comparing how different races and the left and right react to oppression.
An unarmed black man is killed by a white policeman in the USA and there is mass protest, maybe justified, but not the looting and the violence, looks like the Lefty Anti-Trumpers have hijacked it now for their own political ends.
Yet in the UK thousands of young white girls are gang raped by Asian men while the authorities turn a blind eye to it and what happens here, absolutely nothing.
The politicians here will not even mention it, the few members of the public that have tried have been called far right racists and fascist.
My conclusion is we no longer have normal centre right politicians any more.
Good morning, everyone.
Morning all. Little Ships instead of little shits.
SIR – Recognising the “little ships” of Dunkirk by bestowing on them some kind of status like that of listed building protection (Letters, May 28) sounds laudable but comes with no advantage to their owners.
The listing of buildings is a kind of “nationalisation without compensation”. Any modification, inside or outside, of a property requires listed building consent. So boat owners would similarly have to apply to a government body for approval to make any change to their boat, however small.
What would be very useful for owners, to encourage them to keep their vessels ship-shape, would be to allow the necessary materials and labour needed to be zero-rated for VAT.
R A Collings
Presteign, Radnorshire
SIR – I strongly support giving the Dunkirk “little ships” some sort of protected status. Their involvement in a moment of crisis 80 years ago epitomised the Dunkirk Spirit.
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The vast majority of personnel, though, were rescued by Royal Navy destroyers and merchant shipping organised by Vice Admiral Sir Bertram Ramsay. Operation Dynamo (the evacuation) was a masterpiece of emergency planning made possible by a hugely powerful Navy.
Only one of the larger ships involved remains in existence. The Medway Queen, a former Thames pleasure paddle steamer, now sits in the river Medway being preserved by dedicated volunteers.
She earned the title the Heroine of Dunkirk having made seven of the hazardous journeys across the Channel rescuing over 7,000 men and shooting down three enemy aircraft.
Admiral Lord West of Spithead
London SW1
SIR – If Dunkirk were to happen tomorrow, not one boat would sail to rescue our troops, because no health and safety assessment had taken place.
People would just stand outside their property clapping, and all our soldiers would die.
Ernie McNally
Southsea, Hampshire
SIR – In addition to the “little ships”, the Royal National Lifeboat Institution was asked to send lifeboats to Dover.
Ramsgate and Margate lifeboats, the only ones manned by RNLI crews, headed for France straightaway, a 50-mile passage. The crews had steel helmets, gas masks and cans of fresh water for the soldiers.
The Ramsgate boat towed eight flat-bottomed wherries across the English Channel, which proved invaluable in ferrying men from the beaches to waiting bigger boats. Altogether the Ramsgate boat, in three days of magnificent effort, rescued 2,800 men.
The Margate boat rescued 600 men and on the way home took in tow a near-foundering whaler manned by 17 exhausted seamen, sole survivors from a ship’s company of 150 men.
The commander of the destroyer Icarus wrote: “The magnificent behaviour of the crew of the Margate lifeboat, who with no thought of rest, brought off load after load of soldiers under continuous shelling, bombing and aerial machine-gun fire, will be an inspiration to us all as long as we live.”
The coxswains of both lifeboats, Howard Knight and Edward Parker, were awarded the DSM.
Raymond Hirst
Morecambe Lifeboat Station, Lancashire
The Medway Queen does not technically qualify as one of the “little ships”, as she had already been requisitioned by the RN at the outbreak of WWII, serving as a minesweeper.
Medway Queen is on the National Historic Ships Register that I’ve posted about above.
https://www.nationalhistoricships.org.uk/register/46/medway-queen
How unalike is the current RNLI from the 1940 version.
Dithering…….
SIR – BBC and ITV news programmes on Thursday focused on parents who will not be sending their children back to school on Monday because they don’t believe it is safe to do so.
I wonder how many such parents will take the chance to meet family or friends in a larger group that same day.
John Ball
Shoebury, Essex
SIR – Groups of up to six people are allowed to meet in gardens from Monday June 1.
Say we are enjoying a barbecue out in the garden. Suddenly it starts raining. Shall we all go back home?
Carmen Preston
Kentford, Suffolk
SIR – What a pity Boris Johnson chose to illustrate the new freedoms by mentioning barbecues. Now inexpert barbecuers all over the country will pollute our lungs with noxious PM2.5 smoke particles, softening them up for the onslaught of Covid-19. Could he not have just said “garden parties”?
Bernard Kay
York
SIR – Nothing was said about lifting the ban on church weddings at the Prime Minister’s Thursday briefing. However, efforts are being made to allow Aston Villa to play on June 17.
My son has just returned from serving his country with the Army in Kabul for six months and does not know whether he will be able marry in York Minster, with a maximum of four others, on June 27 – a building that would house two football pitches.
Dr Barbara McPherson
York
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PECmjB9df0w
I see parents posting on FB that they won’t allow their children to go back to school if “social distancing” is enforced, because it’s inhuman and psychologically damaging.
Quite right too.
That is my daughter’s concern in deciding not to send her 5-year-old back to school – not to do with the virus itself, but the atmosphere in the school.
Absolutely right. It’s inhuman to expect children to “social distance”. And in any case the chances of children having the virus or passing it on is next to zero.
BBQs.. especially disposable have caused forest fires in this area many times.
Why oh why has Boris given the go ahead for BBQs and allowed people to travel further than an hour from their homes .
Don’t people appreciate an old fashioned picnic any longer?
The excess smoke and fumes will kill any lurking particles of Chinese virus.
The excess smoke and fumes will kill any lurking particles of Chinese virus.
Wow! To be married in York Minster would be a memorable occasion”
But David Hockney reckons that smoking lessens the chances of the virus penetrating the lung tissues so presumably lots of wood smoke and charred steak particles would have the same effect.
Put up a gazebo, Carmen. Garden parties are so elitist, Bernard.
Move over global warming…..
SIR – I am a geophysicist. While the world is focused on Covid-19, another existential threat is looming.
The Earth’s magnetic field has been weakening steadily for the past 200 years. Every million years or so, this magnetic field reverses polarity and nobody knows whether it happens instantaneously or over a long period. It last happened 740,000 years ago, so could happen again at any time.
If the intensity of the magnetic field reduces gradually and slowly reverses, there could be no magnetic cover for the Earth during the middle period. This would have a dramatic effect on human, animal and crop life as the Earth’s magnetic shield guarding us from harmful cosmic rays is removed.
Can we do anything about this? Probably not, other than live in deep caves during the day, but it’s a reminder that we are entering an era when unplanned existential threats may become more frequent.
John Howard
Birmingham
I wonder how long it will be now before all the eco-loonies and “climate-change” idiots jump onto a new bandwagon and start demanding more action from politicians (and from the rest of us) to “do something” to prevent pole reversal?
Pole Reversal isn’t that a UKIP policy (other nationalities are also included)…?
I though that was Pole vaulting (or, maybe, Pole dancing?).
We can’t afford all the greenie bolleaux now that our economy is in freefall. Come to that, we couldn’t afford it even in more stable times. To think that we can do anything about an alleged polarity reversal is just laughable, John Howard.
‘Morning, Grizz.
Morning, Hugh.
We couldn’t afford it when the economy was functioning normally but we were still made to pay for it.
Government will continue making us pay for it’s folly regardless of value, use or utility. It seems that tax payers money is there to further the careers and profiles of politicians rather than simply provide essential shared services.
We’re doomed! DOOMED!!!
Flippin’ heck!
Isn’t this a repeat of a letter from a few weeks ago?
Sounds like we should all start honing our fire making and flint knapping skills.
Lay in some tinned corned beef and lots of ammunition!
Morning, Mola.
Couldn’t we cover the magnetic field with solar panels?
‘Morning, Eddy, and loads of wind farms to blow the cosmic rays away!
Morning NTN.
Brilliant idea, although since we don’t have the required skills, we’d need to import a fair few magnetic Poles to do the installation work.
Lot of problems to ion out….
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4ad872da5d043d38878d9dc3543660509de02fff38c7188fb5e2d3f2ddc7eebe.jpg
Don’t let the blasted government know. It’ll think it should do something about it and then we *will* be living in caves.
Something fishy….
SIR – Having lived and worked in Japan for 17 years, I agree that lower levels of obesity have contributed to Japan’s relative success in combating Covid-19 (Leading Article, May 22) – eating with chopsticks will always limit food consumption.
More important, however, are the cultural practice of regular handwashing, the wearing of masks when suffering from a cold and the respecting of individual space at all times – combined with the traditional greeting of bowing, rather than a handshake or a hug.
Malcolm Thompson
Crewkerne, Somerset
SIR – Japan has a lower death rate from Covid-19 than Britain, in spite of its older population. This fact should be considered in light of correlations that have been reported between vitamin D levels and the incidence or severity of Covid-19 cases. Is it the fish? You can, of course, get adequate vitamin D from sunlight without eating fish, but you generally cannot be deficient in vitamin D if your diet includes a lot of fish.
Of the 10 countries in the world reported by the Helgi Library data provider to have annual per-capita consumption of fish above 50 kg, the deaths per reported Covid case currently vary from nil to 4.3 per cent. The British consume 20kg of fish and seem to have a higher ratio of Covid deaths to reported cases.
Included in the top 10 fish-eaters are Japan, Portugal, Iceland, Hong Kong, Norway and South Korea, all of which have populations with a sizeable proportion of over-65s (much as in Britain, where 18 per cent of the population is 65 or over).
Peter Hardy
Norwich
All the more reason to leave the EU with our fish stocks intact as far as possible.
Or could it be the whale meat and blubber or any of all the other sea creatures, motile and sessile, consumed by the Nips?
All those countries (including Hong Kong) have remarkably homogeneous populations. Yes, vitamin D and a lack of obesity may be vital, but I wonder if it is also the case that it helps if a population is adapted to its local environment?
eg not much covid in Africa, but lots of covid affecting bame people in UK and USA.
(Pop. in the anthropological sense).
New mantra; stay alert, eat fish.
SIR – The predicted trend is for businesses to encourage employees to work more from home. During the past two months of restricted movements, many local businesses have shown great imagination.
Local pubs, farms, cafés, bakers, butchers and fruit growers have combined services to provide home deliveries; wine merchants will take orders from their doorsteps, and takeaways have opened up again.
Other small businesses such as newsagents, garden centres, florists, ironmongers and vets are surviving within reason, and will need our full support when normal life resumes.
We will be through these difficulties soon, and should remember those who have supported us through this time.
Andrew Brownrigg
Liphook, Hampshire
Not to mention Valley View grocers in Dinas Powys… Oh! They take order by phone or sms, deliver, will take payment by bank transfer, a great small business in their customer focus and service.
Not to mention Valley View grocers in Dinas Powys… Oh! They take order by phone or sms, deliver, will take payment by bank transfer, a great small business in their customer focus and service.
My vet is going to hold a telephone consultation (he wanted to see the dog before he prescribed more medication). Quite how that’s going to work, I have no idea. I might miss telling him something that is material because I haven’t the expertise to know what I should be looking for.
Giving British citizenship to 300,000 Hong Kongers will boost the economy. 29 May 2020 • 5:58pm.
We didn’t take the chance when we had it in 1997. But we could finally fix that in 2020. With Hong Kong in turmoil, China threatening fresh pressure on the territory, and 300,000 holders of British National (Overseas) passports under threat, Dominic Raab, the Foreign Secretary, has held out the prospect of those people being offered full citizenship of the UK – with the right to live and work in this country.
But it would be absolutely the right decision for the economy. Why? Because it would help the UK make a crucial shift from low-skilled to high-skilled immigration, because those people could help turn Britain into a commercial hub that links Europe and Asia, and because it would be the most powerful possible symbol that leaving the European Union was about becoming “Global Britain” rather than “Little England”.
This looks like the opening shot of a campaign to import a couple of million Chinese. Even the Below the Line comments have been fixed for support.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2020/05/29/giving-british-citizenship-300000-hong-kongers-will-boost-economy/
319716+ up ticks,
As,
This intake would only be viable it ALL
other “guest’s” since the b liar treacherous latch lifting were returned to places of origin.
Suffice to say the chinese chippy down the road is enough.
Well, yer Chinese don’t like yer slammers – so they might solve some of our domestic problems for us…
We could do a swap – send our unwanted slammers to HK in exchange for Hong Kong immigrants.
Great minds – just suggested that – hadn’t read far enough down the comments. Sorry!
More people living here will require more people to service their needs (except Hong Kongers who never grow old) so we’ll need yet more immigrants to do that job – and so it goes on.
Why don’t the dimwits who advocate unlimited immigration till we sink realise that at some point we have to start living within the abilities of our existing population (which will increase naturally anyhow)?
Ponzi schemes can accelerate race replacement of the most dangerous people on the planet. The British.
319716+ up ticks,
Morning E,
Do you believe it could happen to be peoples
supporting / voting for mass uncontrolled immigration parties that could be
the cause ?
Morning ogga.
My views are well known to our esteemed leaders and don’t need repeating 😉.
319716+ up ticks,
E,
The leaders since back to ted the treacherous have left a great deal to be desired.
But the peoples to continue to follow the same politico
types in many cases in the same offending parties year after year
is, I believe the cause of many of our self inflicted woes.
Most will follow their predecessors and go to Canada.
So the only item on this Chinese Take Away Menu is:
1) Britain…….
Morning Minty (as you can see I’ve got my BT hat on this morning).
Went for a bike ride to a fairly local park earlier. On the lake i spotted a Mandarin Duck with three Mallard chicks – I thought they’ve been abduckted…..
The only way this would be remotely acceptable would be if all other immigration from everywhere else were stopped completely.
The government will never be considered honest and be trusted as far as immigration is concerned until it addresses the problem of the steady flow of illegal immigrants crossing the channel being assisted by both the French navy and the British border farce.
One thing this country is short of is people.
It seems that the solution to all our problems is to import more people. What could possibly go wrong.
319716+ up ticks,
Morning Kp,
Your question was answered long,long ago, look down any high-street in any city.
Would that make Battersea dogs home redundant , and guards required around London zoo and Windsor safaari park?
319716+ up ticks,
Morning Tb,
As in the texture in the take away would be somewhat different.
Well I think they would be a vast improvement over the channel hoppers – perhaps Border Force could tow the rubber dinghies to Hong Kong and do a swap.
Are the comments sarcastic or just incredibly heavily moderated?
Compared to the middle eastern and Africans we’re being lumbered with, the Chinese are far more sensible but they won’t integrate (not like the others have either).
Also why would the very intelligent want to come to the UK? There are already competition for the jobs those Chinese would apply for. They don’t need it, we don’t need it.
What this country needs is lower taxes, a smaller state and vastly, monumentally less welfare.
319716+ up ticks,
Morning Each,
Fresh from the weird department,
https://twitter.com/GerardBattenUK/status/1266631166523834368
WTF?
319716+ up ticks,
G,
Many strange things happen to people in the daytime when they are wide awake.
Indeed!
She rather acts like someone with the palsy or St Vitus Dance.
319716+ up ticks,
Morning Ntn,
The St Vitus dance malady did cross my mind initially.
We visited the Cathedral of St Vitus in Prague a couple years ago.
Dancing not allowed. 🙂
That is the most non-funny thing I have seen in a long while. Totally charmless and without grace. I was not amused.
And she needs to lose a few pounds before putting it on display.
Not funny bit weird, on the whole unnecessary.
I dont agree about the weight though. She’s about average, a little bit overweight. We must get away from expecting women to hide away if they are anything above eight stone.
I agree. There’s more to grab hold of with a Storm in a D-cup than there ever was with a Zephyr in an A-cup! 😉👍🏻
The midges are out early this year
319716+ up ticks,
Morning Fa,
On sandwiches think protein intake.
Morning Ogga :o)))
Well I watched no more than a few seconds of that – haven’t people better things to do than make fools of themselves on the internet?
She got rather upset by the criticism.
https://twitter.com/GraceCampbell/status/1266011600949055491
319716+ up ticks,
Afternoon C,
She most definitely does not see it that way, & in the main it is peoples of her ilk that are given the shout on the current media outlets.
If you think that is bad, look at this one:-
https://twitter.com/BeachMilk/status/1264443822043541505
319716+ up ticks,
Afternoon Bob,
I believe it to be somewhat stronger now as a blocked bowel remedy as I did six days ago.
319543+ up ticks,
I can truly see a fast approaching time when ALL these 650 feather plucking politico’s will really have to self isolate for survival, it surprises me there is not a deck of cards out yet with their images on, why are we still conversing with this overseas tripe?
https://twitter.com/GerardBattenUK/status/1264496895055089665
Never did like the Belgians.
319716+up ticks,
Afternoon Ptv,
Since the Mid 70s we have plenty of reasons not to.
Morning all 😊
As the virus threat appears to be slackening off at last.
The papers are back in action on Brexit.
And how the EU Mafiosi are targeting the British. Barnier is such a nasty piece of work. And of course he has the backing of many people in these Islands who have the audacity to call themselves British. Starmer is at it now.
I see Korbinsky failed in his bid to become something he thought was an important post in European affairs.
Once one always to be one, I say.
He’s just another ex labour ‘leader’, a useless POS.
Good morning all
Bleary eyed this morning after round trip to Lincolnshire yesterday to attend graveside funeral of s-i-l. Haven’t driven so far for years. Will be yawning all day long, no doubt.
319716+up ticks,
Morning Atg,
Sad reason for the trip, may one ask,
reason being s i l was mentioned to me tother day in regards to Kent.
Not me I think. Brother and s-i-l lived in Kent 40 or so years ago.
319716 + up ticks,
Atg,
I was caught in a momentary befuddled state confusing s-i-l abbr. with a user name.
I know, I put my hands up, check up neck up.
I recommend a siesta, Alf.
What a great idea. 👍👍👍
These days I seem to do it on a daily basis, Alf.
Don’t know if this has already been posted.
A STATEMENT FROM THE PRIME MINISTER
Due to the constant pressure from our free press, it has been agreed that Mr Cummings will step down from his current role as special advisor, with immediate effect. I would like to thank Mr Cummings for his hard work and loyal support.
I have today instructed the Cabinet Office to set in motion a committee to investigate and report on the way the BBC is funded and their neutrality in their reporting. This will be headed up by a member of the House of Lords who will have my full backing.
In addition I am proud to announce that I have appointed a new member to the House of Lords. The appointment has been made with immediate effect and I would like to congratulate Mr Dominic Cummings as Lord Dominic of Durham. He will take the lead role in the investigation into the BBC with an additional responsibility to report back to Cabinet on the role of Sky TV.
Lord Durham will take a leading role in the final weeks of the Trade Talks with the European Trade Negotiations.
‘If Carlsberg wrote Breaking News.’
😂😂
If only 😃
In my dreams…
🤣
SIR – I agree with Ben Kelly (“Let’s offer Hong Kong’s repressed masses freedom from communist tyranny”, telegraph.co.uk, May 28). We should encourage highly educated and entrepreneurial Hong Kong citizens to live and work in Britain. Now is the time to show strong leadership.
Martin Lewis
Very noble Mr Lewis. What is your suggestion to help the poorly educated?
…..to help the poorly educated ?
Probably the vast majority.
I think the British have had enough of putting up with anyone from anywhere who thinks of this country as a ‘free lunch”.
All Inclusive, more like.
I suspect although everything is supplied for free, they still have to do their own household chores and shopping. It’s not against the hoomun riaghts act yet.
Nah – given our current demogrphic, the women do that. Many of the men laze around, &/or drive minicabs, pray, and/or rape.
I have often wondered what it is that makes dogs love sticking their heads out of car windows. Is it the mass and rapid passage of thousands of enticing scents? It’s not good for them of course but they really seem to enjoy it:
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bcf34a3a0f3bdc04fcdcb4c7a317cb36ad0a7576f8cf42e7e269804ae4bba3a1.jpg
On the other hand they don’t like you to blow in their faces
Cats neither. That’s how I admonish our cats when they are pesky. That, or a water squirter, depending on the range.
I hiss at the male cat from next door who bullies our old lady. D does it and it doesn’t work: he does a loud “shhhh”. It needs a “szzssss”…
At a distance and without waterpistol armaments, we also do the cat hiss. Stops them instantaneously.
Of course we can ask, but wouldn’t get a discernable answer. But the dogs could be suffering from the adverse effects of the scents inside the vehicle.
Or lack of sense.
https://twitter.com/DickKingSmith/status/1266655532942852097
“The media could not be played”.
You have to open the link in a new window.
For once it played it directly here on NOTTL, for ages now if I click on anything posted from twitter the video just goes blank – no idea why. If I’ve decided to perservere I’ve clicked on the link to the persons twitter feed, but that often means a long search through all their tweets. It’s been a real eye opener how much time people must spend on twitter – I’m not surprised no has time to get back to work.
Aahh. Thank you.
It’s the public who get played. (By the media.)
Is there any presentation of how the WEEE causes the pllastic to get in the ocean in the first place?
As regards the little ships of Dunkirk, there is a register of historic vessels. The boats have to be over 33 feet long to quality for inclusion. There is also the National Small boats Register. However, I don’t think that either of these provide any support or funding for preservation.
For an insight into how the UK, including Scotland) treats historic vessels read the article and note the expression “left to rot”.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-29/city-of-adelaide-clipper-makes-its-final-voyage/11749430
https://nmmc.co.uk/explore/databases/
https://www.nationalhistoricships.org.uk/about
319716+ up ticks,
Afternoon Hp,
“Left to rot”
Rewards from a greatful nations hierarchy as seen clearly regarding retired forces personnel.
People think Dominic Cummings made a terrible blunder. Actually it was a strategic masterstroke
Everyone has treated the row as a disaster for the Government. But perhaps it was all part of a brilliantly worked plan
Well worth reading
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/05/30/people-think-dominic-cummings-made-terrible-blunder-actually/
It’s by Michael Deacon, as trustworthy as Emily Nomates…
Yo js
I know his Bruvver, Arch
It’s by Michael Deacon, as trustworthy as Emily Nomates…
I don’t for one minute believe this was a cunning plan. But actions often have unintended consequences, and in this case I believe it will be helpful in getting people to move closer to “normality” than would have otherwise been the case.
319716+ up ticks,
Morning Eba,
” Unintended circumstances”
Could very well be the excuse
for the continuing
support / votes for the lab/lib/con coalition party and
“we didn’t think the party would do that”
Again,again,again,& again.
An article full of sarcasm surely. Anyway if getting people back to work was the objective it hasn’t worked and we are still being told to “unsocial distance”. What a lot of rubbish.
And Cummings’s jaunt was some time before it became clear that restrictions were increasingly useless.
Isolated with his wife and child in a car and then In a separate chalet on his parents farm. No danger to anyone even if you believe what the government has been telling us.
This government really needs to get its act together. At the moment it’s making itself a laughing stock with quarantine for people arriving in the U.K. but not until midJune , they’ve allowed the press to blame them for the PPE fiasco, the track and trace system is unworkable (and voluntary) – not that I think it should be mandatory but it’s so far after the event that it’s useless, the illegals arriving on our shores are actually being guided here by the French and welcomed by our NGOs and Border Farce – I’d better stop there – BP rising!
I noticed when I went shopping today that red “keep social distance” signs are on lamp posts. How much of my council tax went on that, I wonder. It would surely have been cheaper to tell shops that they should display a paper or laminated sign inside their windows.
I am fed-up of the Two Metre Rule
Yards, feet and inches are the way we measure fings in UK
If you can get imprisoned for selling bananas by the pound, we should not be using Metris Distances
If a yardarm has three feet, where does it buy its shoes?
I can’t fathom that out
Out of my league too, Alec.
The Isle of Man?
I have just neasured a replacement soap dish and it is 6″x 4 1/2″
You can ask for a pound but the seller must weigh out 454g, which shows how absurd it is. It was always about loose goods but how can a pint be banned? All you have to do is label your bottle 568ml…
It’s also a few years now since HMG instructed local authorities not to prosecute.
I became sick and tired of my mother converting distances in 5 and 3 /8ths or some other nonsense. It became intolerable when we would go shopping and she’d be working it out in shillings and pounds – despite it being the 90’s.
I appreciate some is rote learning but metric is simple. It is base ten, decimal. As it is, pints should be measured in litres – a round 1.
Microangiopathy:
A disease of the capillaries (very small blood vessels), in which the capillary walls become so thick and weak that they bleed, leak protein, and slow the flow of blood. For example, diabetes predisposes to the development of microangiopathy in many areas, including the eye.
https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=7274
Having self diagnosed, with subsequent reluctant confirmation by the NHS, as having had angioedema following an adverse drug reaction to an ACE inhibitor, I have just realised the link between my symptoms and Microangiopathy in COVID-19.
Although most patients with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) predominantly have a respiratory tract infection, a proportion of patients progress to a more severe and systemic disease, characterised by treatment-resistant pyrexia, acute lung injury with acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), shock, and multiple organ dysfunction, associated with substantial mortality.1 Many patients with severe COVID-19 present with coagulation abnormalities that mimic other systemic coagulopathies associated with severe infections, such as disseminated intravascular coagulation (DIC) or thrombotic microangiopathy, but COVID-19 has distinct features.2 Coagulopathy in patients with COVID-19 is associated with an increased risk of death.3.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanhae/article/PIIS2352-3026(20)30145-9/fulltext
Morning, Angie.
That doesn’t look nice.
Morning, Obers,
Thankfully, whilst my adverse reaction to an ACE inhibitor displayed many features of reported COVID-19 infections, I trusted my own judgement and withdrew from the drug immediately after a sudden onset of mucus production and compromised airway. Symptoms resolved after about a week or so but I know that I narrowly avoided having to be treated in casualty with a tracheotomy.
Good morning AngieO
You must have been very frightened , but well done for battling on and almost healing yourself.
Morning TB,
Ironically having researched the medical literature and found key articles relating to my rare adverse reaction I felt in more control of my health than my GP.
Morning, Angie.
It is frequently possible to be more in control than the medical profession are. After suffering back pain for a number of years in the late 1970s/early 1980s, my GP sent me to see a specialist. After blood samples were taken and analysed it was discovered that I carried a Human Lymphocyte Antigen (known as HLA B27), which is carried only by a relatively small percentage of the population. In particular, the presence of this antigen predisposes one to certain autoimmune disorders, one such being Anklosing Spondylitis (AS).
X-Ray examination of my lumbar spine and sacro-iliac region had already revealed the presence of a Spondylolisthesis (vertebral displacement) at L5/S1, which was partly responsible (or so I was told at the time) for my back pain and sciatica.
The diagnosis, however, of AS was a much more serious proposition since sufferers frequently deteriorate to having a condition known as “bamboo spine” where the vertebral column fuses together and gives the sufferer a pronounced stoop. Afterwards it affects the heart, lungs, eyes and brain before killing you! As you can imagine, being told this at the age of 31 terrified me greatly.
As time passed my symptoms eased and I was told my various doctors, during medicals, that I was surprisingly mobile for someone with AS.
In 2006, I visited a rheumatologist for a routine check up and I was told that there was no evidence that I had EVER suffered from AS and that all my back pain could be attributed to the Spondylolisthesis! I was incandescent with fury that I had lived for over a quarter of a century under the illusion that I had carried a life-threatening condition, when I hadn’t. Also that — during the same period — I had taken all manner of medication designed specifically to combat that (putative) condition.
:-O)
Morning, Angie.
That doesn’t look nice.
So now you have it, no BBQ unless you have a few acres and can play the guitar.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1652ced42849a63079fcc9d91229291cb7cbce13d0d1c4a9cd0c99353c3028e6.jpg
Why not commit suicide right now?
And no booze! ‘Cos people will get drunk and not care about all the nonsense depicted in the picture.
This is certain to drive some to drink.
Surely a BBQ is a fire hazard? What if one needs to call the fire brigade?
There ought to be a prepared, sign-posted route from the pavement, through the house to the site of the fire….
No one thinks ahead….{:¬))
I find it quite frightening that the people advocating this are in charge of my country.
319716+ up ticks,
Afternoon Db,
They & their ilk were voted in,
AGAIN, after being voted in again, again,& again.
We could not as a Nation got to the SB level we are today without their continuing input.
Very little lower than a snakes belly.
No wonder ‘experts’ are held in such low esteem.
I’d say that the last thing a person risking attending such an event would be a “reveller”…..
As the greatest ever literary dude put it:
Our revels now are ended.
Covid Interruptus…..
Unless it’s on a London apartment balcony of course.
Our normally voracious blood sucking hate media didn’t seem to be to much bothered with that one did they ?
Where can I buy six-foot long tongs? B&BQ?
I see from the DT headline that the perlice will shoot you if you meet anyone over the weekend – but that you can party like mad – lawfully – on Monday.
The PTB really ARE barking.
Apologies Bill, but have you only just noticed?
Sorry – holds head in hands in shame.
Comparing how different races and the left and right react to oppression.
An unarmed black man is killed by a white policeman in the USA and there is mass protest, maybe justified, but not the looting and the violence, looks like the Lefty Anti-Trumpers have hijacked it now for their own political ends.
Yet in the UK thousands of young white girls are gang raped by Asian men while the authorities turn a blind eye to it and what happens here, absolutely nothing.
The politicians here will not even mention it, the few members of the public that have tried have been called far right racists and fascist.
My conclusion is we no longer have normal centre right politicians any more.
That started with Major and all since.
319716+ up ticks,
Morning B3,
Precisely, yet the cyril smith’s are still shielded by the lord steels, there are still many would join the daisy chain along with vaz.
Their parties still finding support aplenty.
We need a multitude of peoples with what you perceive
via 2020 vision in 2020.
I must have imagined the investigation into it and the forthcoming publication of the report. Then there were all those trials. All a dream, clearly.
Anyone who disagrees with mainstream leftist thinking is not confronted with sensible argument but only with abuse. Why, for example, are Farage and Tommy Robinson so pilloried and vilified? Is it not because they cannot be defeated by coherent argument and the truth?
Apologies, but you should have said :
We no longer have normal ~centre right~ politicians any more.
I don’t quite know why the media and state made such a fervent effort to suppress the truth, but it did.
SIR — HS2 will connect the South and the North. It often rains in the North. Why not install a pipeline along or even underneath the tracks?
This would provide a welcome outlet for excess flood water in the North. Much-needed water could be stored in reservoirs for use in the dry South (report, May 29).
John Tilsiter
Radlett, Hertfordshire
Mr Tilsiter is guilty of perpetuating a common delusional falsehood insofar that “it rains more in the north than the south”. In general, it doesn’t.
For those who are geographically, topographically and meteorologically unaware, there is an imaginary line that runs north-east to south west linking the estuaries of the rivers Tees and Exe. The Tees-Exe Line effectively separates upland Britain (to the north and west) from lowland Britain (to the east and south): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tees-Exe_line
It is upland Britain that receives the lion’s share of rainfall while lowland Britain is usually much drier. Wales and Cornwall, which are both to the west of this line (but not in the generally accepted ‘north’), experience a heavier annual rainfall than Yorkshire and Lincolnshire, which are situated in the north.
I deliberately decided to move to Norfolk because it was less wet than the West Country where many of my relations live.
Good choice.
Good morning Bill
I seem to remember that your MR spent a brief time at Willand (near Cullompton) which regularly has the highest rainfall in England. My grandfather was the local GP at the turn of the 19th/20th century and six of his eleven children made their professional careers in Africa to avoid the dampness and the rain!
Good morning, Grizzly.
Mr. Tilsiter appears to have no idea about the costs involved,
or the amount of ground required to build such a pipeline.
Daft bat.
Good morning, Garlands.
Which part of the ‘north’ would he want the pipeline to come from? Penzance? Swansea?
Having worked in pipeline construction and maintenance since the late 90s, I agree. Besides, gas and oil have to be transported from their sources to the customers. Water falls as rain all over the place.
I think Mr Tilsiter may have had his tongue in his cheek, but here’s another flaw in his plan: with the energy it would take to pump the water from the rainy part of the country to the dry south, you could probably desalinate even more water using reverse osmosis.
Trouble is, Joe, how do you determine which correspondents are earnest in their beliefs and which are piss-takers? Sometimes the boundaries are diffuse.
Oh jings. No pumps required as water flows downhill. The North is uphill and the South is downhill. Just look at the maps the weather forecasters use. North is at the top. South is at the bottom. It couldn’t be clearer.
Exacto my thoughts.
Water flows by gravity from the Elan Valley reservoirs to Birmingham, dropping 170 feet in 70 miles.
The Cruachan Hydro scheme is a work of genius. During the day the water runs down the penstocks and generates high-priced electricity. At night the water is pumped back up into the reservoir using cheap electricity. I am not smart enough to put my finger on it, but there does seem to be something wrong with this. (If we had nuclear power stations online all the time it would not be necessary…?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruachan_Power_Station
Pumped-storage schemes provide electricity at periods of high demand. Load balancing is offered as a justification but that suggests that base-load is inadequate. Their supporters trumpet their green credentials but they don’t provide something for nothing.
Just so.
And locations for them are very limited although there are some conventional catchment HE schemes which also ‘back-pump’.
I suspect that the locations are limited by landowners refusing to co-operate, especially so in Scotland. Grouse moors trump everything.
It’s as much to do with suitable topography.
Yes, I understand that.
I’ve just enjoyed a cup of tea made with such water. And I’ve never had to de-scale my kettle in the 22 years I’ve been back in Birmingham.
Surely not. On a map you can see that North is at the top, so the water will run downhill.
The North is at the top of the country in the same manner as the brains are at the top of the body.
For the same reason the South is at the bottom of the country as the arse is at the bottom of the body.
[Cue wails of anguished groans from the shandy-drinkers.]🤣
We in the South who drink proper beer don’t like the two inches of foam at the top of our glass, like wot you pigeon-fanciers and whippet-owners do!
‘Morning, Aeneas, then there is the Yorkshire dyslexic who went out wearing a cat-flap.
Born in County Durham, me. North of Derbyshire, I believe.
Why-aye, though but, canny man.
Divvent drop your dottle on the proggy mat!
Morning Grizzly.
Mr Tilsiter is also perpetuating another delusional falsehood which is that you can dig a bloody-great hole between railway lines to fix a water leak when there’s a train due in five minutes.
Morning, Eddy.
It has bemused me since childhood as to why all essential services are buried beneath roads. Roads which frequently have to be dug up, over and over again, for repair works by water, gas, electrical and various other service companies. Seldom do these concerns synchronise their efforts!
Even today that practice is continued. All utilities could be below pavements in a brick-lined trench beneath removable concrete slabs.
When the new (early 1980s) Chesterfield and North East Derbyshire District Hospital was being constructed, I was permitted to walk around the miles of such tunnels that were built into its foundations in order to contain all its vital services. I wondered then if that wouldn’t be a good idea to be adopted universally.
Not all that long ago, contractors digging for something or other took half the town out when they went through an electric cable.
Your comment whizzed me back to a silent film of the ’60s about a building site – clip below – and where, after different gangs had dug the same hole, another gang was supping tea while they waited for the hole to be filled so they could dig it up again.
WARNING: The following clip is from when comedy was done for laughs and may not be understood by current-day viewers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIs4CaqbvN0
Always good to see a very young Gerald Wiley.
And this one:
https://youtu.be/t3z46mYr0e0
There’s a further problem. Surely the water destined for the south would become extremely contaminated every time someone using the train’s loo flushed the bowl!
:-))
Not so, Elsie.
Such will be the speed of HS2 that by the time the first customer has used the lav, the train will be pulling into Euston. In fact, if they’ve got a touch of the runs they could well be on their way back north.
I assume he is talking about steel pipelines I’ve been working in pipeline/corrosion engineering and cathodic protection since 1998 and I can think of a whole host of reasons why his suggestion is impractical.
Water companies have asked to be allowed to build reservoirs for some time, not just to capture flood water.
The environment agency denies them – it is against EU regulation.
His letter was a bit cheesy, I thought…
Off topic , this is an interesting article on Dukedoms .. and in particular the Duke of Albany.
https://twitter.com/TheFieldmag/status/1266625502145662979
‘Morning, Mags and thank you – an interesting article, especially for my family tree, where Clarence and George Plantagenet impinge but distantly.
The Duke of York and Albany’s First Maritime Regiment of Foot.
Also known as the Royal Marines!
Yo Bill
Bootie ful
He swam them down to the bottom of the sea then he swam them up again.
The present Duke of Hazzard
Mr Dom Cummings
Yo T_B
Yo, Mr Effort.
I remember Luke, Bo, Coy and Vance, but not Dom.
I know he works for Boss Hogg.
Yo Mr Grizzle
I am worried
You mentioned ‘all the boys.bdid not mention Miss Daisy
or her shorts (what there was of them)
Here we go…
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5832cc4888abaee1ad7325c01893794f3eadb77d3e1f1b2cefae03320c3ad19e.jpg
Exactly!
Shhh! I was keeping her all to myself!
Hi TB, thank you for the link, an enjoyable and informative read.
Awkward…………..
https://twitter.com/JamesTodaroMD/status/1265987825016754176
They just cannot help themselves can they? All that they had to do was sit back and wait for any of the multiple trials to report their findings.
For sake of argument:
If Trump had decried it and Biden had promoted it, how would the MSM have reacted?
I strongly suspect in a diametrically opposed manner to what we’ve seen.
If Trump stated that Biden was by far and away the best contender for November’s elections Biden would be dropped almost instantly by the Democrats and his cheerleaders such is the Trump derangement syndrome they show..
In a recent survey, American women were asked whether or not they would have sex with President Trump.
25% said NO.
15% said YES.
60% said NEVER AGAIN!
319716+ up ticks,
Yet another one bites the dust,casualty of the manipulation brigade,
https://twitter.com/GerardBattenUK/status/1266638153219289089
That’s offensive
319716+ up ticks,
Morning Msk,
The ban ?
If so it could be for the better
as in suffering manipulated post’s.
It was my little joke in reference to tet.
Good morning all.
Good afternoon, Peddy.
Buenas tardes, Elsie. Soy esperando que tu estas muy bien.
Espero que (I hope that). Estoy esperando que (I am hoping that). Estoy esperanza hasta que (I am waiting until). Soy esperando (My name is Esperando with a small “s”). Hablo Esperanto (I speak an invented language which never really did catch on).
:-))
Estoy esperando hasta que, NOT Estoy esperanza hasta que. Blankety Blank and Silly Sausages (drat and double drat this silly predictive text).
Nigel Farage’s fury at Piers Morgan racism allegations exposed: ‘I’m sick of this! Fri, May 29, 2020.
NIGEL FARAGE was the spearhead behind the successful Brexit campaign, but he was forced to address growing accusations of racism in a 2019 edition of Life Stories with Piers Morgan.
Another Nigel Farage slagging off session. He must have really got up their noses with the Cross Channel Migrants story. Lol!
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1288821/nigel-farage-news-piers-morgan-racism-allegations-exposed-ukip-brexit-spt
Well done Nigel that put that nasty pratt in his place.
The audience were firmly on the side of Nigel.
What is wrong with racism? If it means preferring your own people to others, it is natural, healthy and in the interests of a cohesive and homogeneous society.
If it means beating people up because they are a different colour, it is wrong.
However, the former has been tarred with the brush of the latter. Deliberately, as part of the ongoing war against the West. This conflation is defined by the Shorter Oxford 1993.
Question to forum: how infectious are asymptomatic carriers of the virus?
My sister’s 22 yo showed symptoms (and tested +ve) in her household but none of the other 4 people living there appeared to develop CV.
The common cold is a virus. When someone in my household catches it, not everyone inevitably goes down with it. I wonder if this type of experience was factored in to the Imperial College Covid modelling.
No easy reply but there are a few super infectious carriers that spread all around them but they are the minority I think. This virus has had its day and is fading from view as always happens. Why it produced mass hysteria will be debated for years to come. Two mass delusions in my later life. Fascinating but so damaging.
Probably the virus is too recent for anything like that to be known. It probably won’t be nearly as terrifying as all the Save the NHS adverts were.
I think that is a question for Fergus Walsh.
He had a temperature and was off sick in early January 2020 (two months after COVID-19 is reckoned to have been detected in a 55 year old Chinese man). He recently tested positive for three separate antibody tests.
I have seen Fergus on the BBC News twice in the past few days and he hasn’t said anything about all the people he has met over the last five months.
Yo WS
I Must read more carefullyeresterer
You did not post
Question to forum: “how infectious are nymohomaniac carriers of the virus? “
Just to say, I e-mailed Anne on Thursday but have had no reply. I don’t know if any of the Colchester Mob have any news.
I hope she’s ok!
She is, ashesthandust. See my reply to Bill Thomas above.
Thank you Elsie.
Did she say something about the Germans?
Similarly, very little from Rik in the past 48 hrs or so – unless I have missed something. He’s usually quite prolific.
‘Morning, Bill.
Here in spirit Hugh,so angry at current shenanigans I don’t trust myself to say much
We’ve missed the cats and dogs. I might have to recycle some of them.
Please to hear it Rik!
We hope all is well. 🤞🤞🤞🤞
Sounds more interesting than sitting in the undercover carp ark at WGC Waitrose for an hour with a little dog yapping in the car alongside.
Bloke across the way has a practically untrained pooch and it barks near constantly. When it does, he shouts at it.
Man does not know why dog barks. Dog does not know why man shouts at it. Dog continues barking.
Neither Mongo nor Gerry bark at things. Gerry more than Mongo who’s way of getting attention is to put his great head on your lap.
The bloke clearly has no idea about raising a dog.
Is he a thicko?
There’s one like that a few doors away. It can really spoil a sunny afternoon.
My late hound only barked to be let back in the house after one of his peripetations.
Which breeds are your two ?
Ours only barks when there is some one at the front door or back entrance as I write there are new dogs in our neighbour hood trying to out do each other barking. Our Lab simply ignores them. As she does little terriers when we are out walking they, always get lairy as they pass she ignores them all.
She barks if i shout GET HIM ! And she’s great at the front door with unwanted callers. I have to hold her back and they obviously have no idea what she might do. Which is absolutely nothing.
Some dogs just bark, some don’t. We had boxers that became quite demented at the sight of anyone or anything in the garden. Then we had labradors that just rumbled a bit, then turned around as if to say “Was that enough for you?”
Some dogs were bred to bark. My Lhasa Apso is one such, a sentinel used to alert Tibetan monks of intruders and arouse the interest of larger attack dogs. Sinbad (his pedigree name is something unpronounceable) is better than a door bell.
Dolly’s pedigree name is ‘VeeJim DeltaForce at Taradonna.
Known affectionately at home as ‘Fatso’.
Yes, but the person at the front door doesn’t. 🙂
That’s the general idea.
The dogs either side of me yap. They aren’t trained. Mine barks when someone comes to the door or into the garden. Occasionally, he will bark outside while staring into space, but he soon stops when I call him in.
Carp ark? Where they preserve koi? 🙂 Cue fishy puns ….
Only if you can find a parking place 😊
Our family thrive on puns.
Could be an IT problem of course but it’s worrying because you’ll recall we had a long silence from Anne back in the DT letters days and it turned out she’d had a nasty fall and been in hospital?
And there was the previous occasion when she spilled her cup of coffee all over her laptop, which meant it had to be taken away to be sorted. At that time I drove round to see her and posted what had happened on here. I have just phoned her (see my reply to Bill Thomas above) and she is well – once again her “silence” was caused by laptop problems.
Well done Bill,
I do hope all is well. Long silences are horrible.
Anne doesn’t have my contact details and likewise I do not have hers. Her absence from here is rather concerning.
Korky, she is well. See my reply to Bill below.
Thanks, Elsie.
Elsie might know.
URGENT MESSAGE Thanks for that, Bill. I have just rung Annie at home and she is well, hale and hearty. She explained that her laptop has packed up (“well past its sell-by date”) and – not wanting to lose any important information – is waiting for her “little computer man” to bring along a spare one on Monday and set it up for her. This has come hard on the heels of her car battery packing up a few weeks ago, and again – not wanting to electrocute herself by borrowing jump leads – she is waiting for her nearby local garage to re-open this coming Monday and fix it professionally.
She sends you all her very best and hopes to be “back to normal” in terms of NoTTLing some time next week. In the meantime she plans to buy herself a new laptop “once this is all over”. So, sorry Bill but The Pushy Nurse will be pestering you once again before too long.
PS – Our telephone chat was cut short by her front door ringing. She was expecting a family visit, so I explained that they would have to wait until Monday and that if she let them into her garden I would be reporting her to the authorities! (She laughed!)
Thank heavens all is well. And thank you for letting us know.
Thanks for checking up and reporting back Elsie, most considerate.
I appreciate your kind post, hopon, but I did it as much because I too was worried about her and wanted to check up once I realised she had stopped posting. And I posted her good tidings on here to reassure all NoTLers because I am the perfect
gentleman, er lady.😇👍
Well done and thanks Elsie.
Thank you, kind Sir. Do I now get a gold star?
:-))
One gold star! One gold star Elsie! I award you 5 gold stars. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Oooh, you charmer you! Next year you’ll be sending me Valentine cards next, Alfie boy. Does Mrs Alfie know and approve?
:-))
Thanks, Harry – that IS a relief. It is also a relief, of course, not to have her around being pushy!!
Your message to The Master will be passed on, Mr Legal Shark.
:-))
Glad she’s okay, but it’s a beggar everything going wrong at once.
Herts Lass does I think – and I do as she was kind enough to buy one of my hedgehog calendars.
I have her e-mail. It was to that that she did not reply.
I thought I’d wait till you reported back.
I know most of her address – as I said, I think Elsie knows exactly where she lives.
I was just thinking about her now, wondering if anybody had heard anything – I was going to ask in case I had missed something. I do hope she is well.
She is, poppiesmum, see my reply to Bill below.
Can we up anchor and move the site… 🙂
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3a4ededecdd4a163941579afd382824854b4fb29a551de8835071398d562751b.jpg Matt’s cartoon today
Good morning all.
Working at home with pets …
https://twitter.com/i/status/1262387776147918859
“Working at home with Pets”
That sounds like the title of a Peter Greenaway filum. I assume it’s a tweet because I just get a blank area below the text message. If it isn’t a Peter Greenaway title already, then someone should recommend it to him.
“Working at home with Pets”
That sounds like the title of a Peter Greenaway filum. I assume it’s a tweet because I just get a blank area below the text message. If it isn’t a Peter Greenaway title already, then someone should recommend it to him.
Working title, “the Draughtsman’s Cockapoo”.
I was thinking more of Drowning By Numbers or Prospero’s Books!
“Waving at Retrievers”…
Just caught the end of Any Answers BBC Radio 4
Volunteer Track and Trace caller was dying to get asymptomatic super spreaders off the streets.
This is the sort of person who would worry me about using flimsy hearsay evidence to inappropriately lock down people just for the satisaction of her preducial inclinations.
I suspect that the vast majority of peple volunteering for this are coming at it from the perspective of:
“Lock them up. We mustn’t and can’t take the risk of people with the virus walking the streets.”
Even if the fever and sneezing is actually caused by hay fever or a common cold and someone coughing by smoker’s cough or any number of ailments that are not the virus.
Better safe than sorry, don’tcha kno.
Glad I do not carry a mobile phone with me.
I do sometimes, but I only switch it on if I need to make a phone call or to receive an authorisation number for an on-line purchase; and that is very seldom.
I’ve just ordered a replacement for my dead one but I don’t like the sound of this track & trace business.
It’s an absolute God-send for vindictive busybodies to flex their muscle.
It’s daft. The person plunks in their symptoms.
The person has to have their telephone on them.
It relies on other people having their telephones on them
Those people have to be in proximity long enough for the data to be transmitted between them.
Data that includes location, by the way.
It also relies upon people with no medical training and deep paranoia and, frankly a surfeit of brains are going to hold the rest of us hostage.
Yep. A charter for the paranoid ignorant to close down society.
(I think you may wish to edit your last sentence };-O )
Paucity rather than surfeit, I think.
JD’s opening is a bit confused – who is or isn’t happy about the restrictions and why – but she ends on the right note.
Not justifiable and can never be legal.
Since deleted………..
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A mate called and said, “I’ve just had a huge fight with the wife. Do you have a spare bed for a few weeks until I find a flat?”
I replied, “I’ve a sofa, if that’s any good.”
“Perfect,” he said, “you’re an absolute legend! I’ll send her round in a bit.”
I asked my wife if she fancied a quickie.
She replied..”As opposed to what?”
A quiche ……………….?
That’s for afters.
319716+ up ticks,
But they would say that wouldn’t they,
https://twitter.com/GerardBattenUK/status/1266739083340058625
Which one did they manufacture first – the vaccine or the virus?
319716+ up ticks,
Afternoon A,
That has never been far from my mind I can assure you.
Well if they have inside knowledge, maybe there is a better chance of their cure working.
319716+ up ticks,
Afternoon R,
Yep, it’s best to have the anti venom at hand before the snake bite.
At what price? The Chinese don’t do charity – or regret.
There’s no point in deploying a bioweapon if you haven’t already developed an antidote.
319716+ up ticks,
A,
Precisely.
Spot on.
The virus and the cure were developed in tandem.
I prefer the Abbotopotamus. version
127% chance it will work
PS, Where is she: have the RAF emptied their largest hangar, of all aircraft, so she can use it to islolate
319716+ up ticks,
Afternoon Olt,
Did hear a whisper she had been kidnapped in error & the UK
government are refusing the kidnappers monetary offer to take her back.
She’s probably gone into a care home.
An article from The Times today. Their media scum still at it.
Teflon Dom Cummings sets his sights on one thing only: Brexit
Francis Elliott, Oliver Wright, Steven Swinford
Dominic Cummings likes to tell journalists and politicians at Westminster that they should “get out of London more”. The taunt came back to bite him this week as his own rule-bending journey out of the capital at the height of the lockdown enraged the public.
Critics expecting Mr Cummings to be chastened after last week’s firestorm should think again, however. Friends say he is wounded but very much alive, and determined to carry on for at least one last mission: preventing a Brexit extension. The battle that raged over whether Mr Johnson should sack Mr Cummings played out in the context of a wider fight about whether Britain could walk away from the EU on December 31 without a trade deal, even if it is still fighting off a second peak of coronavirus infection this autumn.
It also coincides with a power-play at the top of Whitehall as officials’ assurances that the UK was the best prepared country in the world for a pandemic fall horribly short of the reality.
And it comes as Mr Johnson prepares a major speech, a mini-budget and a reshuffle, all planned for July. Mr Cummings is determined to be a part of Mr Johnson’s efforts to reshape his political agenda and administration for the new Covid-19 reality, to ensure there is no extension and to use the fall-out from the virus crisis to change Whitehall.
Mr Cummings’s survival was sealed by the statement from Durham police on Thursday, which said that while he “might” have broken the lockdown rules during his Easter trip to the northeast, he would not be prosecuted.
It would be wrong to say that Mr Cummings has escaped without a scratch and even allies admit that some of his wounds are self-inflicted. When it first emerged that he had not stayed in his primary residence but rather driven to his parents’ cottage 260 miles away, he indulged his instinct for aggression.
“He isn’t remotely bothered by this story,” friends told journalists at the time. “It’s more fake news from The Guardian. There is zero chance of him resigning.” Last weekend, too, Mr Cummings was allowed to run his own form of defence, summed up by one ally as “never explain, never complain”.
Pressure for a different approach was building, however. Mr Johnson agreed to hold the line on Sunday but as the story dominated Monday’s media, the prime minister chaired what one insider called a “wider group” that effectively overruled Mr Cummings’s approach.
He accepted that the public deserved an explanation but remained determined not to give them an apology for behaviour he regarded as both morally and legally correct, and began work on his statement. After rehearsing in Downing Street’s rose garden he went inside to change into a crisply pressed white shirt and braced for his encounter with the media.
Meanwhile, Mr Cummings’s allies rallied support, stressing his centrality to Mr Johnson’s operation and to keeping the prime minister “honest” on Brexit. One ally of Mr Cummings compared him to José Mourinho, the football manager: “He builds winning teams, inspires loyalty and takes a lot of hits himself. No 10 would be a far less effective operation without him.”
The threat, implicit or explicit, was that his departure would lead to a mass-walkout of allies across government.
Ministers such as Penny Mordaunt who criticised Mr Cummings, or even just failed to voice public support, can be sure their actions have been noted.
“Dom is very vindictive. I think someone like Penny — she’s f***ed. I know how they operate and she is in big trouble. They will go after her,” one well-placed observer said. “Believe you, me, they know exactly who’s not been helpful — who’s been putting things on WhatsApp. They have spies everywhere.”
Some of Mr Johnson’s pro-Brexit donors pressed the prime minister to hold firm after they were warned that should Mr Cummings be forced out, a bulwark against an extension to the transition period beyond December 31 would be lost.
So far little media attention has been paid to how a second spike in infection this autumn will interact with the present Brexit timetable. Some Brexiteers expect officials and interest groups to argue that the UK cannot both fight the virus and prepare to leave the EU without a trade deal.
At no point did Mr Cummings consider resigning, and it does not appear that the prime minister ever considered sacking him either.
The worst may have passed but the final reckoning has yet to be counted. “I don’t think anybody would say this has been an easy experience for him. But it remains to be seen how deeply the public feel about this,” one source said.
Another well-placed figure who knows Mr Cummings well said that the saga had exposed him as a hypocrite, but it would be the Conservative Party that would bear the consequences.
“What is certainly true is the ‘one rule for them’ is the thing that has stuck the most,” they said. “It goes to the heart of what some people think about Conservatives.
“When you look at Dom, who easily lives in a million-pound house, driving a £50,000 car, going up to stay in his in-laws’ castle — suddenly everyone has seen him for what he is. He has done some great things — that’s undeniable — but he has kind of been exposed.
“He is the person who pushed for a £20,000 fine if you broke the border quarantine, who himself drove up to Durham. It’s like The Wizard of Oz — everyone has just pulled back the curtain and it’s like some bald bloke in shit clothes
He stayed on his own parents’ land, not his in-laws’, and hardly a castle. If they get that wrong, what else is true? And there can be few houses in Islington available for less than a million. This is just calculated to inflame the kind of people who thrive on envy.
Yes I noticed all the lies in the article. Sad that such a publication has gone down to gutter press level.
…”the kind of people who thrive on envy”. – that woud be 99,7% of the UK population, then? Including all my still-UK resident family.
I think you are exaggerating a bit there, Paul. I have my faults but envy has never been one of them.
A member of the 0,3, I guess. :-))
I’m not aiming at individuals, but pretty everyone I have a discussion with seems all twisted up with envy… why does it matter, in a newspaper report, how much is worth, and what kind of house someone has, for example? But my brother, late Father, mother, all do it.
It is the media and the magazines, all winding everyone up with the message ‘Look! This is the sort of life you could/should/would be having, if only ……’ Women’s magazines are especially guilty of this across the genre.
As I never read “Women’s magazines”, that’s probably why I don’t feel envious of anyone 🙂
Really? Are all people that bad?
Prolly not, just the ones I meet.
One worries about the common thread there… :-((
Not sure of your percentages here, but I do think you are right. Although I have not been back to UK for many years, I do notice people having a lot of envy towards others, especially in the media.
Sour grapes.
They’re not giving up are they. Yet another article short on facts and sprinkled with alleged quotes from “someone close”, “a well placed figure” etc.etc.
If they believe DC is a hypocrite for looking after his son then they should be writing similar articles on the whole front bench of the Labour Party and members of the MSM.
“…one well-placed observer said. “Believe you, me, they know exactly who’s not been helpful — who’s been putting things on WhatsApp. They have spies everywhere.””
It is called social media for a reason. It is not about “spies”, People load social media with photos, videos, and endless words, many inappropriate. They do that voluntarily.
As for “spies, we have the unpaid snitches hard at work. Our paid spies are probably social-distancing well away from GCHQ while our men in the field, are at home, self-isolating. It gives them plenty of time to practice putting seals on perfume bottles and replacing them so no one can tell the difference.
New York governor Cuomo is speaking on NPR radio at the moment, talking about the upcoming opening of the state.
He sounds like he is absolutely exhausted. No matter what people think if his politics, he has put his heart and soul into it.
There has been comment about Steve Baker turning into a useless pile of dung with no principles
Ahem
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No wonder he’s so keen to appease
I cannot forgive the crummy and crumbly piece of ineffectitude for causing me to make an error of judgement about him.
He did seem to be one of the few Conservative MPs who had integrity about Brexit but like that slimy piece of oiled excrement, Rees Mogg, he turned out to be completely useless.
319716+ up ticks,
Afternoon R,
Now I ask yer, the day war broke out I was sitting in the kitchen busily sawing off me trigger finger.
Am I the type to say “I told you so” about ALL of them, plastic hero’s, mercenary saviours,
beware of very loud opposition
with old news.
Trust gets you a hole in the back of your favorite jacket.
Partial re-entry is still in play.
Limited damage to brussels is still an ongoing campaign.
All Gas and Gaiters eh Richard.
Probably told to shut up by the chief whip or lose his comfy job and his income.
They have ways and means.
As was said in the original version of House of Cards by Francis Urquhart, “Everything comes to and end”. And “Every one has their price”.
I thought that he was supposed to be independently wealthy and not need the pumped up salary.
Isn’t this independence what is supposed to raise the hereditary lords above the squabbling cesspit?
319716+ up ticks,
Could it be a better policy if we declared war on Beijing ?
https://twitter.com/AgainBraine/status/1266748186292629505
319716+ up ticks,
o2o,
Solve many of our problems, full employment, create a 650 political
battalion, leading from the front,eject ALL anti GB aliens from the Country immediately, no end to the benefits
….. for a short while.
Tic.
When did May promise 3.5bn Chinese the right to move to the UK?
She signed the UN Migration Treaty.
Unfortunately the population of these isles was not paying attention at the time, too busy watching footie, ‘enders, corrie and the rest. They have only themselves to blame. Hopefully I won’t be here when it really blows up.
We knew but we’re impotent to do anything about it.
We knew, I agree, I remember thinking I cannot believe this is happening, I cannot believe she is signing this – it is the greater mass of the population who pay half an ear, if that, to what is going on around them who need to know how this is going to affect them. It is only hunger and/or the threat of imminent death that will wake people up and bring them out onto the streets. By the time that happens, there will not be enough of them to effect any sort of result in their favour.
I don’t like the Tweet, but the $2 refers to the whole world not just the Chinese
So that’s 7bn then.
319716+ up ticks,
Evening Aa,
Did she ? she took the baton indirectly from B liar the initial
treacherous mass uncontrolled immigration latch lifter, who wanted the whole world on GB welfare.
I see 3 million Chinese mentioned, I do give her credit for being
top on the treachery table, far superior to major, & the wretch cameron.
& today’s cocktail is… a Passionfruit Martini. A Passionfruit Martini.
Chanelling Norman Hackforth there, Peddy.
Unintentionally, Dear Boy. Unintentionally.
This is my aperitif this evening Peddy…….. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2290a05135191c9cbca765aeae880cfdcfab61ed1395ad0eb800531d80c416e9.jpg
So good you had two?
Passionfruit Martini is just so good.
But then i like all the Martini cocktails. The best was at the Phoenicia Malta. £15 a throw but you only need two for an evening on the terrace.
I’m too mean to spend £30 quid on a couple of drinks.
Many people in the U.K spend a lot more on beer on a weekend.
What you get here is sophistication. In beautiful surroundings with cocktails made as they should be. With each drink you also get an assortment of Hors d’oeuvre..
Watching the sun going down it’s quite easy to while away a couple of hours. They also have a pianist.
All that for £30 i consider a bargain. 🙂
How did you manage to get there, Phil?
Not this year, John.
Whoosh! He did type “here” and not “there”, you know!
I thought it was a description of the experience, not a description of where he was when he experienced it, so “here” was appropriate.
Particularly if you’ve had a good lunch and the H d’ is sufficient nourishment
I normally pace it that way. Who wants to dine twice in a day when on holiday?
I did, as a matter of fact.
HAPPY HOUR
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Dommie, Oh Dommie….where are you?
He’s gone to Specsavers…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWbSlloL87Y
Live at Wang centre…………..wot wen wong ?
I’m not convinced that Cummings did anything wrong, but I did like this one!
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This is interesting. Suggests that the virus was present in Europe in December. Makes me consider what was the point of locking down as late as March? And have we already experienced the dreaded ‘second wave?’
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52526554
Now then, now then.
Don’t be asking awkward questions…
Quite a number of Nottlers had a viral illness in December, January, February. I had something in mid- January with a hacking dry cough which lasted several weeks. I didn’t feel particularly ill so I spread it around a bit. I probably picked it up at a neighbours’ New Year gathering on 4th January.
So did 2 sons and I , just after Christmas . No 2 son was quite poorly, he lives in Worthing . No I son and I had a fever and short of breath for about 5 days , night nurse and paracetamol during the day and Covonia to soothe helped a bit!
There is a lot of anecdotal evidence that this bug has been around for months. Talking about shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted! We are destroying our economy and way of life to prevent a virus that we have mostly already had, either with mild symptoms or none at all. Madness!
I had the same throughout December – now I’m sneezing a lot because of pollen
I had all the symptoms in February. It put me in bed for five days, which is very unusual for me.
Normally ten? ;@)
I am lucky inasmuch as generally I enjoy good physical health. Anything that puts me in bed for even one day is pretty debilitating. This lot was so bad I couldn’t even walk the dog and that is unheard of! I need to be pretty much on my death bed not to take the dog out for his walk!
Please forgive my cheap joke. I can sympathise, having caught what my doctor called a ‘lung infection’ last year. The symptoms were suspiciously similar to the virus, i.e. high temperature, loss of appetite, lethargy, persistent cough. The prescribed anti-biopics did nothing and the whole thing laid me up for 6 weeks.
I did get the joke and no offence taken. Six weeks is a long time.
Shove some vaseline up each nostril.
Me too, Nov, Dec.
Third wave
Haven’t cases in November been identified or is that still only China? Locking down in March certainly was shutting the stable door after the horse had bolted. This should have been obvious after the first 3 weeks and the lockdown lifted. I’ve seen some videos on YouTube where it has been suggested that it was already obvious by the time of lockdown in March that it was in decline.
I suspect that when historians look at this period they will see it as a mistake of historic proportions. If anything, lockdowns make the virus worse as they prevent us from going outside for sunshine and ensure everyone in the household gets it. If the government had simply done nothing and let it run its course we would have been a lot better off.
Ah, BUT But but…. the holy cow aka the NHS might have been exposed as udderless and rudderless.
Try that line over at the Garudina and you’ll be called a eugenicist (Godwin’s Law by association).
Except for the higher death rate. Britain and the US both have much higher death rates than countries which got on top of the virus quickly – like Germany, with a larger population than Britain and 1/4 of the deaths. Ditto the US which has had 3 times as many per capita deaths than better organized countries, mainly due to denial and politics – a bit like Britain.
As to letting it run its course, the Swedes (and Brazil) are finding out that plan really does not work very well.
Opening up is a balancing act – case load and deaths vs. the economy. The South Koreans just found out that reality as they have had to re-apply lockdowns. Where we live, everything is re-opening in a very controlled way (we are in week 5 of that process), the numbers are being carefully monitored and hot spots being addressed by bringing in extra medical and testing resources. But the governor has made it clear, if things regress, the process of opening up will be frozen until the numbers come back. And he and his cabinet are about as conservative as you can get.
Van-Tam was given a chance by the Media Minister to answer a question from the Observer journalist about what he thought of DC’s behaviour and the clarity of the rules. He said the rules were clear and earlier said the Lockdown will be re-applied quickly if R goes above 1. Although he didn’t say it ,he is not happy about the governments decision to start removing some of the strictures. Van-Tam, I think, would like to keep us in permanent lockdown.
That was my take on it too.
It’s almost as if the PTB are trying to destroy the economy completely.
” Almost”??
Van-Tam is a spreader of misery. Have you noticed that he has to stand on a box?
So does Jean-Claude Van Damme…
The so-called expert scientists cannot agree among themselves. This is because each individual expert has a particular interest and limited field of vision.
One of the principal problems with science campus design is the desire of the individual ‘experts’ to pursue their own vision without reference or coordination with other ‘experts’ who have a different slant on things. It is as though they wish to limit their focus to what interests them and exclude the contrary views of others.
Van-Tam seems to be a a particularly insular sort, unwilling to accept the validity of views which do not accord with his own. As such he is very dangerous and should be ignored and preferably replaced with someone with an open mind.
Too bloody right corimmobile.
Repeat that again and again and again.
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I’m rather fond of my mother in law. She’s a huge embarrassment to the war queen, usually sloshed and regularly tells junior stories about her adventures – always ending in a bad way. She’s never once landed safely when hand gliding, for example.
I’ll bet junior’s eyes are agleam.
Local Govt: Mass Muslim Street Prayers a ‘Serious Lockdown Breach. VIRGINIA HALE. 30 May 2020.
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Authorities in Blackburn said they will “take action” over a gathering of Muslim men praying in the streets which constituted a “serious breach” of coronavirus lockdown measures.
Really? I await this with some interest but little confidence.
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/05/30/muslim-street-prayers-lockdown-breach/
https://youtu.be/R_hlMK7tCks
Two fingers to the infidels. This is now our territory and we will do as we please.
What a lousy photo, taken at completely the wrong direction. No sign of the baying press gathered there calling for police arrests and suchlike. What do you mean they can’t get past Islington!
319716+ up ticks,
Afternoon As,
Say Tommy Robinson walked past that assembly & sneezed he would not get out of choky until the turn of the century.
Yes, they’ll take action – to find the people complaining about it, arrest them under the community relations nonsense and set about protecting the Muslims.
Yet the Archbishop of Canterbury won’t even allow services to be conducted in churches with only the minister present.
He’s about to achieve peak wank, and is even more useless than his preddecessors.
Frankfurt School: item 7 – empty the churches. They are doing an amazing job. Welby must be over the moon.
319716+ up ticks,
Now there’s a question, has the majority got what they voted for?
https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/1266629901702004736
When you wake up and realise that that is commonplace throughout the UK and you don’t like what you see; is that Islamosomnia or Islamophobia?
Neither – it’s a natural reaction.
Both then…
319716+ up ticks,
S,
The answer to that is of no consequence really because
by that time it was to bloody late.
};-(((
They appear to have squares marked out for social distancing.
If the ones on that LH photo are two metres apart, the camera lens deceives the eye.
BTL:
There’s always one.
Patrick Brauckmann: Not a whole lot of of sympathy will be headed in the UK’s direction. Centuries of genocide and the raping/pillaging of cultures around the world have set your Karma in motion.
319716+ up ticks,
Dw,
Done and dusted now the islamic ideology followers have shown their power to defy, the police / councillors have show to
rhetorically be seen to be doing something via the submissive,pcism & appeasement route.
But actually doing f*ck all.
319716+ up ticks,
Evening HK,
Correct, you have it in one.
– https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxPRZL09hGg
I don’t have time to scroll down but has any one found out if AA is okay ?
Yes.
PC problems.
(No not political correctness, computer!)
Not so bad, nothing serious then eh thanks Sos, i’m off to catch up before the Chilean merlot disappears.
Copyalayder ;-))
Whew! Was getting a tad concerned there!
Ahem 2
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1266632344732962816?s=20
Edit,if ever caught up in a looting riot head for Waterstones,you’ll certainly be safe there……………..
Is this ‘spot the white person’?
Plenty of those in the clip.
It’s actually a Democrat convention.
Free stuff for all.
‘At last the Dodo said, “Everybody has won, and all must have prizes” ‘.
I’m wondering how long before some of our young folk feel the need to ‘act in solidarity’ in the UK?
Chris Rock has opinions………………
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4
The joys of black privilege,imagine a white comedian cracking this out
I’m wondering how long before some of our young folk feel the need to ‘act in solidarity’ in the UK?
I think I can see True_belle in there
She cannot pul the Wool over our eyes
It is the same here in the UK. I remember the Brixton riots in the early eighties which spread to Clapham Common where I rented a flat. Then again the last London riots where shops and restaurants were looted especially in South London.
It is the same suspects every time, some adopted grievance used as an excuse by the permanently disaffected for pillaging other people’s property without fear of ever being caught.
It’s me human rights innit! Why should that snotty banker have stuff that I cannot have?
Answers please on the back of a £20 note.
They’ve arrested the policeman on a murder charge so they should all go home…………
WOT??? with all dat free-stuff for dey down-trodden po’boys!
From all those shops owned and staffed by the po’boys… Oh!
Jeremy Corbyn’s brother Piers arrested for second time in fortnight at anti-lockdown protest in Hyde Park .
Of the same mould. What ? Another complete tosser.
Piers will be revelling in this. To him, being arrested is a badge of honour. But twice in a fortnight, he’ll be wetting himself with glee.
It just emphasis how irrelevant they are. HK.
“Stand back and look at how the EU is behaving. Faced with the worst slump anyone has known, it is still more interested in teaching the British a lesson than in the prosperity of its own citizens. And people wonder why we left.” – and that has been their problem all along. No pragmatism there.
Although he has plenty to say.
Daniel not quite the tiger he use to be when it comes to the EU mafia.
Says a lot does little. actions speak louder than words. A very clever man.
At the time of the referendum, it was pointed out that Tory Eurosceptics like Hannan would happily have stayed in the Conservative party grumbling about the EU until the cows come home.
I always thought he was all talk and no action.
Good to see Daniel Hannah back on form.
Night All
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Glad to see you are back with your late evening posts, Rik. Earlier, some of us were wondering if you were OK. Keep safe, keep well.
Do we need this?
Yes!
Then you’re welcome to it.
Absolutely
Hong Kong’s British passport holders prepare to flee China’s crackdown
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/30/hong-kongs-british-passport-holders-prepare-flee-chinas-crackdown/
But, but, but – we British are racist. The British Empire was a disaster, oppressing people all over the world.
So why would anyone want to come and settle here? It’s a conundrum, isn’t it?
I expect they will have loads of money though and will be educated and clean ,, and don’t kiss carpets five times aday .. They will be scientists and money men and women, and play violins and piano’s , and be mathmatically adept, and hopefully will be capable of getting on with intelligent Indians who seem to be in public office over here .
I hope they don’t have an appetitie for bats dogs and bears and lion bones !
Slight problem.
Most of those left for Canada years ago.
We’ll get what’s left.
And their families from the mainland.
Drat!
In fact, double drat!
And a bunch of Chinese spies, probably.
You’d be correct TB. Sensible and sensitive people who are happy to contribute and integrate. And no stupid religious hangups.
The truth will out.
Good night all.
Another K. W. thriller beckons.
I’m off to bed too, Peddy, so goodnight and sleep well to Missy and you.
For the nerds amongst us… Brick Experiment channel on YouTube – Lego porn, and very interesting!
Try https://youtu.be/wUVvQk7XLd4
Fascinating stuff. Although I worked for many years in electronics, person carrying out design and build has far ore patience and ability than I ever had!
Walking the dog today, early, about 7am, came across 3 blokes searching around in the bracken and gorse on top of Kit Hill. “Have you lost your dog?” from me. “No, lost a small drone, thanks to a crappy pilot.” I suggested they send up another to look for it, and got a scathing look.
unless it landed in the middle of nowhere, they could have squeezed a Tile on board. Cheap geolocation device.
Good evening, all. Survived my first ride in three months, but I am absolutely shattered now, even after a hot Radox bath. The Connemara had a paunch bigger than mine! It took him a while to realise the days of slobbing around in the field were over and he had to work, but once he cottoned on to the fact it was more interesting to be asked to do things than just trudge around stuffing his face, he was fine. I drove home feeling calm, relaxed and happy. That lasted all of five minutes (time to change out of my riding kit) before MOH hit me with a barrage of things I had to do (and should have done yesterday, apparently although I’d had no inkling of the change in status from “don’t buy any more of this” to “buy this NOW”). By the time I’d done the shopping and unpacked, I took a glass of red up to the bath with me to restore calm! Given that the dog was very restless last night (I suspect, like me, he was too hot to settle) and I didn’t get much sleep, I shall probably be dozing off half way through a post.
Ride the bugger again tomorrow. Good for both of you.
Will do and next weekend as well.
Lovely description of your afternoon , I enjoyed reading all about your activities .
Perhaps the dog needed a cool run in the evening , dogs like that sort of thing , it helps them settle . Hope you won’t feel too stiff and unsupple in the morning !
Thank you, T_B. The dog gets his walk in the morning and usually snoozes the rest of the day. He will be sixteen and a half on Monday, so one walk a day is enough for him. I moved my chaise longue today so he’d be able to lie near me and be in shade – greater love hath no man than he moves his sunbed to keep his dog in the shade! He’s lying beside me now, panting heavily. I am already noticing how stiff I am. My leg muscles are feeling it! The good thing is, I’ll be riding again tomorrow afternoon, so they’ll have to work; kill or cure. I shall have to do my physio in earnest from now on. I’d left off and only re-started it half-heartedly a few days ago. It’s all self-inflicted!
I have a Vax air filter. It takes in the cooler air from ground level. The warmer air goes out the door at head height. I leave my bedroom door open all night. No stuffy sleepless nights for me.
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Will tonight’s supper delight you more than last night’s did? I’ve sourced a decent lamb butcher who cuts my meat, properly, to my requirements. None of that abomination known as “French trimming” where all the tasty meat and fat is arbitrarily and idiotically scraped from the rib bones, making the chops look like the remains of a lion kill that’s been left on the Serengeti plain and picked bare by the jackals and vultures!
The nearer the bone, the sweeter the meat,
Pick it up with your fingers, and enjoy the full treat.
I’m roasting the chops over a bed of onions and a full head of garlic. No spuds but I’m having sautéed summer cabbage, peas, broad beans and mushrooms.
Glad to see its halal….
Lars, the local butcher I bought them from, wouldn’t thank you for that.
I thought you’d gone in for raw meat till I read the last line.
Ah come on, Grizz; tell us what you *really* think of French trimming …
Sounds delicious!
Oh, they were. :•)
I’m unsure where the “French-trimming” comes from.
All the chops we buy look like yours. It must be a restaurant thing.
I agree with you for the most part. I trim mine in the french way. But only the last inch of the chop. I render that down for the fat to then cook the chops. Dolly gets the scratchins of lamb..
Also there is the outermost layer of the chop which is papery and not pleasant to eat so that comes off as well.
With the dish you have posted i would mix the onions and the chops with olive oil, salt, black pepper and rosemary. Empty into a casserole and place the cops on top.
If you as a poor Northerner would like more information on how to cook properly then please don’t hesitate to ask any poncey Southerner you come across. 🙂
Do you grill your cops on top or do you do a Minnesota fire-bombe surprise?
We were talking of lamb not Long Pig.
If I ask Dolly for a recipe for the scratchins and the papery bit, will she oblige?
I don’t think she would.
Those are cutlets – I like a bit more meat on my chops.
One man’s cutlet is another man’s chop. They are called chops where I come from, as they are in Greece and the USA.
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Did the lamb die of starvation? ;@)
It’s funny that you say that. I have found that all the joints of lamb for sale here are, somehow, a different shape to what I used to buy in England.
They were exceptionally tender, though.
Lovely.
With my intestines telling me they are still not happy, I’m not expecting to eat anything today since my pair of Weetabix with milk this morning.
Sorry to hear that, Bob.
Not even your de rigueur pint of tea?
I’ve had two today.
At the moment I’m preferring water with a cordial to help add salts & sugars.
Just back from illegal lunch with soldier neighbour. Just the six of us….. Brilliant way of spending six hours….
Signing off – à demain…
I feel that this immediate reduction of lockdown is far too premature.
It seems as if Boris and his ministers have had a wham bang thankyou ma’am moment .
How long do you think it should last? For the rest of our lives?
Nah – much longer…{:¬))
Each individual can make their own choices, if you want to remain in lock down that is your choice.
Bojo is waiting to say “Told you so!”
The whole of the MSM are wetting themselves in anticipation.
Sos,
There are THOUSANDS of visitors rushing to this area, Lulworth and Durdle Door , from Bristol, Slough , Luton , London Reading and Southampton . The area is chockablock with cars.. the driving is impatient and rude and the volume of rubbish left behind each day is appalling.
The visitors are caught short and and are peeing in peoples gardens , hedges and the river .
We are all concerned , lots of retired bods including us feel really put upon . We don’t gain any monetary value from the amount of cars, the landowner benefits.
Currently there is an emergency at Durdle Door, the coastguard helicopter has landed on the beach and the thousands of visitors on the beach have had to be kettled to one side , the crowd is a horrendous size in such a small area!
The crowds are the natural result of keeping people cooped up for over two months. As for keeping the loos shut – that is asking for trouble.
It’s bad news for you, yes. But you do have the choice to stay indoors and not mingle with the crowds.
It’s the weekend and a hot one, wouldn’t that be normal for a normal summer?
What’s wrong is the lack of public lavatories, if it really is safe to allow people out then those facilites should be available.
It would have been ok if the weather had not been so good. A few gusty chilly squalls from the Western Approaches would have kept them indoors. The proximity of those kettled in your photograph reminds me of the crowds at the Cheltenham festival. There will be a few today passing cv-19 on to the neighbours and beyond. You may just have hay fever, but you may well be incubating something else at the same time.
A friend of ours in the south-west has just phoned to say that his wife is in hospital with lung cancer which has spread to her brain. They had no idea until she collapsed a couple of weeks ago. When she was taken into hospital she was, at the same time as other checks and scans, tested for cv-19. She tested positive. He said they have no idea how she got this, she is 78 and he will be 82, and have had all their shopping delivered.
That’s very sad to hear.
Thank you.
Oh, Lord. Terrible news for your friends, PM. That’s awful.
Thank you. Although they did berate us for not clapping for the nhs a month or so ago, there is a sad irony there. I do wonder how much of this clapping is responsible for the spread, all the neighbours out together, unable to resist a word when stuck inside all day with the family.
Not to be flippant, but it could have arrived with the deliveries.
Yes, it could. It is also possible that she caught it in hospital immediately on arrival – she was taken to a Bristol hospital, and Bristol seems to be a hotspot for cv. She could have caught it from the paramedics or the ambulance which transported her there. They live in a small village just outside Taunton.
Difficult for him, especially the suddenness of it.
It is, and especially the no visiting rule as he is frail himself.
Oh, even worse than I feared. So sad when the couple has reached old bones together.
As the coroner round the corner from us said, people are interpreting lockdown in their own way. She has just returned from a stint in the sw of the country – not enough happening around here.
We didn’t have lockdown, shopping deliveries, killing the economy, although there was a Labour Government in 1968 when 80,000 people died in this country from Hong Kong flu H1N1.
It could end up worse than that because of the stupidity of government, who can’t govern and scientists with little understanding of either science or the mathematics they profess will cure all.
Elizabeth Talbot.
The time we can meet in small numbers in a friend’s/relative’s garden, remain 2m apart, not share food, cutlery or have use of the host’s toilet will redefine the term “bring a bottle party” (sorry – couldn’t resist )
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THIS is happening right now,,, Durdle Door … 2 helicopters , Air ambulance and Coastguard .. Look at the huge crowds far end of the beach and in the middle .. No idea what on earth has happened , but I expect it will be a tearful emergency!
Herding them all together for maximum exposure and disease transfer.
That’ll teach the plebs and we’ll have a great excuse to extend the lock down.
Does that happen every time there is a similar emergency, or is this exceptional?
Exceptional!
Then they must be escorting a few boatloads of illegals !
Why have they all been kettled?
Room for both the helicopters to land and manoevre and people to stay safe .. There are 88 steep steps down to the beach.. I have no idea what has happened but we could hear the helo ‘s from our open patio doors, we knew something was going on . The beach has now been closed, and there will be chaos for bods climbing up the steep steps in this heat to get back to their cars
Did anyone actually need any help or was it just to terrify people?
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This reminds me of the Scotsman who, after a football match at Wembley, celebrated by getting drunk and performing a dive from one of the fountains in Trafalgar Square. He cracked his skull on impact and died. The fountain pool was about two feet deep.
Something less drastic. It reminds me of being in a pub near Trafalgar square on the evening after the world cup 1966.
A Yorkshire man sitting on a bar stool moaning about the Bludy Soothurn beer being like bludy gnats piss.
He got up to go to the loo and fell flat on his face. We tried to help him oop but he shouted at me and my mate, saying “eff off yer ‘king suvern poofs”.
Some years ago I had to host a bloke from Sheffield who made similar comments about ‘southern beer’. So I took him out and filled him up with Fuller’s ESB. He never mentioned ‘weak’ southern beer again. Having subsequently consumed Sheffield beers myself (Wards, Stone’s) they are nothing to write home about and certainly weren’t strong.
Ditto with a couple of Scots. I took them to The Windmill on Clapham Common and filled them each with three pints of Young’s Special by which time they were getting wobbly. My mate Adrian and I sank four pints with ease but had to carry the Scotsmen back to the flat.
Only four? Lightweights!
I was trying to be modest. We probably drank more because we both trained in Young’s Wandsworth Brewery where we generally sank five or six pints.
Young’s Special was a difficult beer because you could suffer from the occasional rotten barrel.
Ah, The Windmill! I haven’t been in there since the Wandsworth Brewery closed. Young’s beers were so, so good in those days. I used to enjoy the ordinary bitter and the special for completely different reasons, both were excellent in their own way. Of course Winter Warmer was in a class of its own. Sadly the beers now masquerading as ‘Young’s’ are an abomination, an insult to the name. John Young will be spinning.
Back in the ’70s I did the 135Club thing, this entailed having a pint in each of Young’s 135 houses, certified by the guv’nor in each pub. By the time I’d finished there were 154 pubs! But the incentive was a barrel of beer, lunch in Wandsworth and a commemorative necktie which I still have. Happy days!
IIRC, there were 374 pubs in Exeter when I was young. I once had the forlorn hope of drinking in them all. I did manage a goodly proportion though.
My favourite Exeter pubs are The Double Locks, the big Wetherspoon’s opposite St Davids Station (I forget the name but the Orangery in there is stunning) and the Well House, sadly lost in the fire in the hotel next door.
Good choices, though there are others – and even more out and about, such as the Nobody Inn at Doddiscombsleigh, to name but one. Worth a venture is the Beer Engine at Sweetham: Good beer brewed on the premises and one of the best Sunday Roasats you’ll get, all with a view of the Tarka Line. That was The Imperial Hotel, before it became a W. My sister had her wedding reception there.
Losing the Royal Clarence was a shock to the city.
Briefly brilliant was the bottle-conditioned Special London Ale, 6.4% and dangerously drinkable. It managed the trick of cask Taylor’s Landlord, hoppy and malty at the same time but with more weight on the tongue and a wonderful tangy marmalade orangey bitterness. It appeared in the late 90s but when Young’s closed Wandsworth and sent production to Charles Wells at Bedford, the quality dropped and sales collapsed. It’s still available but it’s a miserable product now.
Why they thought that Charles Wells was a suitable home for Young’s beers is a mystery. Charles Wells have never EVER produced a decent beer. Their entire output is bland, lifeless and characterless.
Ooh, I think I’ll disagree just a little. I lived in Bedford from 87 to 94 and drank a lot of Wells. It could be infuriatingly inconsistent but at its best Eagle, the ordinary strength bitter, was a wonderful session beer.
Wells had moved from their town centre brewery to a site on the edge of town before I moved there (1982 – Bedford Town FC lost their stadium because of it). Their state-of-the-art [sic] computerised brewery didn’t live up to its publicity. The use of hop pellets rather than whole hops didn’t help and sometimes the beer was hazy and defied good cellarmanship. Nevertheless, when it was good it was very good and I had some memorable nights in the Fleur in Mill Street. Happy days.
I worked out of an office on Prebend St in Bedford between ’81 and ’84 and got to know the town quite well. I also worked for the company which ‘computerised’ their brewery. The ‘computerisation’ ensured that each brew was consistent by tightly controlling all the variables, i.e. temperatures, pressures, ph values etc etc. as well as controlling and monitoring the packaging systems, kegging, canning and bottling.
No amount of computerisation will turn a pig’s ear into a silk purse if the basic ingredients and recipes are crap. In Charles Wells case, it was both.
I’m sure there was the odd pint of reasonable beer to be had but by and large their output quality was consistently dismal. I’m no fan of Greene King, but the GK beer in the Flowerpot in Bedford, back then was outstanding.
I liked the Flowerpot. It was a welcome refuge from packed town centre pubs at the weekends. GK was good when I arrived in Bedford but its quality fell markedly during my time there.
The first pint I had when we came home for Christmas 1980 was ESB in a pub in Finchley. It’s a great pint if you don’t have to drive be up early next day.
I was working at a school in Chiswick. The caretaker was an ozzie. He told me a similar story about a mate who he pick up from LHR on his first visit to the UK.
They guy was unlucky, shorts and tee shirt thongs (flip flops) Chucking down with rain mid June and cold.
Later at the flat in Chiswick he was moaning about the programmes on the TV.
They took him to the local Fuller’s pub almost opposite the brewery.
He moaned about the warm pommie piss.
They poured a barley wine in to a pint glass and topped it up with ESB. Two pints later they carried him back to the flat. Flat out.
He change his entire attitude next day.
Fine.
Leave the idiots where they are.
Clear the beaches of those who are not affected.
Then mop up the idiots.
Sounds like a good Maxim…
Yep one of those too!
};-O
Darwinism in action.
Looks like the Coronalemming Virus, all leaping from the cliffs.
The sea is still very cold
Cliff fall?
Don’t know Bob , we will soon find out.
It has been a very warm day . The roads have been a night mare around here.
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Perhaps an immigrant child has washed up on the beach and the’re waiting for the journalists to arrive. Is the guy in the left hand corner a forensic officer.
edited Having a closer look there are 2 others in white overalls so perhaps they are the crew of the helicopter.
If you’re interested in history that relates to today, then I can heartily recommend my current reading :
“A Journal of the Plague Year, written by a citizen who continued all the while in London” by Daniel Defoe.
I ordered the Kindle Edition – it’s a free download – but going by some of the readers’ reviews the paperback copy would be even better, as the Kindle one seems to be a bit bowdlerised. “Translated by machine” says one – perhaps for modern readers who can’t cope with older style English. Anyway, it’s very enjoyable and quite funny. Human nature hasn’t changed much in 355 years as even then people were queuing up to waste their money on quack remedies and soothsayers. These were mainly the poor people, as the rich had mostly taken the opportunity to escape to the countryside.
Thanks Ndovu.
I’m not into books but I’ll download that.
The following website is well worth a visit for those wanting free books to either download or read on line, albeit older books.
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/376
For those wanting to use tablets to read their eBooks, the Lithium ereader is a simple one. Here’s a link:
https://apkpure.com/lithium-epub-reader/com.faultexception.reader
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My first thought, Belle, is to not go to Peckham tomorrow.
Let’s not go there, at all.
I courted my first wife there from 1962 to 1965. Bad enough then but it was, at least. the local white Neds.
All lives matter, these are evil people.
Same old. The wogs are always looking for some perceived sleight to riot. We left London in 1982 after my wife was mugged at knifepoint and robbed by these people.
OK, guys, mix, mingle, get WuFlu and die. Good result for the sake of a non-event?
Strange how black lives seem to matter so little to tyrannical black rulers in Africa.
You may like this also from this Swiss lady.
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aRRRRRR, sweetie ! … x
Whatever happened to the 3 Rs?
Started watching ‘Stagecoach’, 3rd or 4th time, but it’s been a while, yeehah! G’night.
Into the arms of Morpheus for me…….bon soir you lot!
Good night, good people and God bless.
Bis morgen, fruh.
Before I sign off to go and get some dinner ready – I just thought you might like to see one of my favourite penstemons in full bloom. It has subtle shades of blue and pink. The bees love it, but they’re quite tricky to photograph as the wind was blowing this afternoon and the bees were dashing about and going right inside the flowers.
Beautiful, almost luminous blue. A happy bee as well!
Absolutely beautiful! So delicate!
Beautiful sight. Have a good dinner. Time I got started too – lamb’s liver tonight.
Any pix available?
You can’t see it either? I thought there was something wrong with my eyesight!
Blind leading the blind.
Who said that?
There were pics but they seem to have been wiped off the face of the earth. Surely not gchq at it again.
Sounds like the variety “Sour Grapes”.
I can’t remember what it’s called as it’s been there for quite a few years. But it is glorious and quite an early bloomer. I think it came from Hayloft Plants.
Here you are – it’s a very varied variety but the only ones I’ve seen are blue & pink. I had one for a few years
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Well they all seem to be different! So many different colours and forms. Mine are quite an intense blue with delicate pink shades. I bought several that year from Hayloft & Grapes may have figured in the names. Only that one and a dark red one survive from that batch but I have other more recent ones. They’re great for flowers throughout the summer until the frost comes and they’re slug-proof.
Goodnight, all.
Good morning all – Sunday’s new page is here..
Good morning all.
Vege samosas & spring rolls for breakfast.
I had leftover chicken curry in a naan!
Heavenly! I washed mine down with a litre of goat’s milk – you can’t get more Asian than that.
Ugh! Black coffee with a spoonful of local honey for me. My one coffee a day.
Coffee with honey? Tried it once when I was a teenager. Couldn’t drink it.
I don’t take any sweeteners in drinks. My idiot boss in Ostfriesland was always trying to persuade me to take sugar in espresso but I refused.
Two Weetabix & milk to see if my bowels will settle.
Abdomen is still gurgley, but slept a bit better last night.
Hope it’s a sign you’re on the mend, BoB.
Not quite feeling better at the moment, but at least a bit less bad.