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Today’s letters (visible only to DT subscribers) are here:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2021/07/30/letters-futile-policy-based-not-covid-tests-virus/
Good Morning, all
Very still
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Er – Is the carrier sailing backwards?
Unusual for Brookes
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Don’t get it.
Psycho reference.
Er…?
The Hitchcock film, ‘Psycho’ and the current immigrant hotel needs.
Never seen the film. All the brain surgeons’ children??
Got it!
Cranial surgery a speciality.
What’s his point though?
HMS Queen Elizabeth is leading Britain into a new era of security policy. 31 July 2021.
Even at the very top, one still detects ambiguity. Boris Johnson never seems happy to voice criticism of China, preferring to point out how much its trade matters to us. But the facts on the ground – and at sea and in the air – suggest that his Government is at last ranking long-term security above short-term gain.
BELOW THE LINE
KARL MARTIN 30 Jul 2021 10:37PM.
Why no comments allowed about the interview in today’s Telegraph with the ex-Manchester Police woman, and now campaigner against grooming gangs, Maggie Oliver under the article title ‘Girls are being abused because those ‘protecting’ them are too worried about being called racist’?
What is the point of sending Royal Navy warships to the other side of the globe to prevent Chinese aggression if white working class girls in the north of England are being preyed upon and raped, even murdered, in their thousands by majority-Pakistani child-grooming gangs while the police, social services and politicians , including the Tories, stand idly by?
Morning everyone. Mr Martin is correct. The thing is that it is considerably easier to send an Aircraft Carrier to the other side of the world than protect a few White Girls in the UK. It also provides the Government with the comforting Illusion of Power while concealing its Terror of Internal Islam and lets them pretend that we are still of some consequence before the curtain finally descends on what was once a Christian State of considerable Wisdom and Ability!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/30/hms-queen-elizabeth-leading-britain-new-era-security-policy/
It’s been deleted now.
SIR – It is gratifying to see winners of a silver or bronze medal at the Olympics appreciate their achievement, often with an outpouring of emotion. What a contrast to the miserable footballers in each of this year’s major men’s finals, including the Euros, most of whom removed runners-up medals in disdain, devaluing their efforts and disrespecting the winners.
David Coverdale
Leeds, West Yorkshire
The honour they possess is in inverse proportion to how much they are paid.
SIR – I am relieved that Aston Martin has ruled out making cars aimed at the female market (report, July 28), which would be incredibly patronising.
However, I would ask manufacturers to consider the need for a secure home in every car for a handbag. Having a loose bag rolling around is both dangerous and distracting.
Geraldine Wills
Chaffcombe, Somerset
I know, I know, I know, Geraldine. It’s such a pain trying to find a secure spot for my handbag in the Aston. Love & kisses Citroen1xx
I have fitted a specially designed handbag-friendly door pocket, moulded around the seats and bolted to the door cards onto my 2CV, which is a far superior car to the Aston Martin
Agreed, Jeremy.
My Mini Traveller had excellent bins front & rear perfect for that purpose.
The best Mini door pockets were from the time they had sliding windows and used a bit of string to open the door. A lot of those early models (with the seams on the outside) were destroyed in the making of the 1969 film ‘The Italian Job’.
Mine was one such, but with a wooden frame glued on the outside to prmote rust (although why it needed prmoting I don’t know, it got on pretty well on it’s own).
Slidy windows & door-pulls.
I had one of those (and a solenoid starter on the floor in the driver’s foot well).
There was a time when having a loose bag rolling about in ones car was a dream come true!
Especially in the bench seats?
The knob could get in the way. (Gear lever, silly!!)
🙂
Cripes, it’s like holding a conversation at Allan Towers.
‘Morning, Citroen, there is no longer a ‘choke’ to hang a handbag on and the only car designed to accommodate such, was the Renault 4 with its gear lever poking straight out of the dashboard with an upright handle – perfect for the ladies’ handbag.
‘Morning All
WE’RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!………..Sage..
Now how can this be?? If left alone viruses have ALWAYS mutated to be less “hot” less deadly….
Oh Wait
“Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens”
“There is a theoretical expectation that some types of vaccines could
prompt the evolution of more virulent (“hotter”) pathogens. This idea
follows from the notion that natural selection removes pathogen strains
that are so “hot” that they kill their hosts and, therefore, themselves.
Vaccines that let the hosts survive but do not prevent the spread of
the pathogen relax this selection, allowing the evolution of hotter
pathogens to occur. This type of vaccine is often called a leaky
vaccine. When vaccines prevent transmission, as is the case for nearly
all vaccines used in humans, this type of evolution towards increased
virulence is blocked. But when vaccines leak, allowing at least some
pathogen transmission, they could create the ecological conditions that
would allow hot strains to emerge and persist. This theory proved highly
controversial when it was first proposed over a decade ago, but here we
report experiments with Marek’s disease virus in poultry that show that
modern commercial leaky vaccines can have precisely this effect: they
allow the onward transmission of strains otherwise too lethal to
persist. Thus, the use of leaky vaccines can facilitate the evolution of
pathogen strains that put unvaccinated hosts at greater risk of severe
disease. The future challenge is to identify whether there are other
types of vaccines used in animals and humans that might also generate
these evolutionary risks.”
https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1002198
Colour me terrified ain’t that a perfect description of the “leaky” covid “vaccines”
Edit
Ahem
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Why have the Brits who joined ISIS suffered no consequences? Spiked. 31 Juy 2021.
Here’s a shocking statistic: a higher proportion of the Brits who went to Syria to fight against ISIS have been charged with terror offences compared with the Brits who went to fight for ISIS. Yes, if you risked your life to fight alongside the Kurds against the barbaric Islamic State, you are statistically more likely to be found guilty of terrorism than if you went to Syria to join the Islamic State and partake in its deranged war of hate and terror. Surely nothing captures the moral disarray of 21st-century Britain better than this.
I wrote about this online at the time and it was one of the factors that finally convinced me that the West was orchestrating the war against Assad. After all how could a country that was able to stop you going to an England football match abroad not prevent you going off to fight in Syria? These people provided a lot of technical expertise (and some of its nastiest members) to ISIS, the vast majority returning safely to the UK; unmolested by the domestic Security Agencies then and since,
The tragedy of all this is that Syria was not attacked in pursuit of some great Geo-Political truth but as an act of spite. They refused a pipeline! Had we succeeded the Middle East would be in an even worse state that it is now! A JihadistState would have come into being on the Mediterranean coastline! It would have made Afghanistan and 7/11 pale by comparison.
The only heroes in this debacle are Vladimir Putin and Russia! They saved Assad and his Secular State (for the moment anyway) and we from ourselves!
https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/07/30/why-have-the-brits-who-joined-isis-suffered-no-consequences/
I commented this just now in response to senior Civil Servants rewarding their self-assured incompetence with huge personal bonuses while making “hard choices” when it comes to keeping up with inflation for front line workers:
“We have no Opposition. They can do what they like with public assets –
past, present and future – because they can. All the public are
concerned about right now is tackling racism, sexism and homophobia and
Team-bloody-GB.”
The same can be said for our military treachery abroad.
[edited for the usual grammatical senior moment]
I commented this just now in response to senior Civil Servants rewarding their self-assured incompetence with huge personal bonuses while making “hard choices” when it comes to keeping up with inflation for front line workers:
“We have no Opposition. They can do what they like with public assets –
past, present and future – because they can. All the public are
concerned about right now is tackling racism, sexism and homophobia and
Team-bloody-GB.”
The same can be said for our military treachery abroad.
[edited for the usual grammatical senior moment]
Awkward
https://twitter.com/DavidV5Goliath/status/1421252904011378689
Good Morning Folks
Cloudy start here
SIR – It is astonishing that for 18 months public-health policy has been based not on those individuals who were actually ill with Covid-19, but rather those who merely tested positive for the virus (“Hospital Covid case numbers ‘misleading’”, report, July 30).
Dr J H F Smith
Retired consultant pathologist
Sheffield, South Yorkshire
It all depends on what those in charge of public health policy are trying to control…a fiendish lurgi or a malleable population?
I collected my 2CV yesterday from its annual hospital visit for the MoT. He is a specialist and knows the car well and has kept it up over the years. In his prime, he was a skilled mechanic in the British car industry. I think he worked at Longbridge, and certainly has a thick Brummie accent. He is now well in his 70s, and admitted he doesn’t know how much longer he can do it.
In six weeks, he must go for an operation on carpal syndome on his arthritic hands, which may stop him ever again being able to cut and weld metalwork on cars, even though he loves the work. He said that most of his associates have either retired or died, and there is simply nobody younger than him with the skills or experience to do the work. The British no longer have the engineering base it once had.
For a very long time now, the colleges were closed down, the manufacturing plant and knowledge sold off for bonus to the Americans and the Chinese, and anyone born after 1975 told that tackling sexism, racism and homophobia is more important for the national interest. With all this money floating around the finance centers (sic), it is more aspirational to become a lawyer or an accountant. That is the way forward, so we are told.
I rant, but come the next MoT, who can fix my car?
Your nearest Citroen dealership which will rush you £500 plus VAT
https://www.2cvgb.co.uk/ might be of some help, to put you in touch with a suitable mechanic & bodyshop who can deal properly with your car, Jeremy. They should also know how to source parts, whether new-old stock, or pattern.
Firstborn has 2 Classic minis, and there’s a flourishing business in the UK keeping them alive and well repaired (he had his “new” mini, 1996 SPI, in a works in Yorkshire a few years ago for welding and engine upgrades). I’d be surprised if there wasn’t similar for 2CVs.
I have been a member of 2CVGB for thirty years, and get their magazine each month.
Parts supply for a car last made in 1990 are excellent. Roy Eastwood at ECAS in Stafford has a comprehensive stock of parts and panels, and there is also a good source at 2CV City in Yorkshire and 2CV Shop in Somerset. In addition, the club itself has a SPOG organisation to remanufacture spares fallen out of production, and Burton in the Netherlands often improves on the original design for 2CV spares. Scrappies are a last resort these days, since there are precious few bits left in scrapyards worth having, even in France, although Ebay villains from the cities scour parked classic to nick bits off.
The real problem is with local metal bangers. There are a handful of expensive Classic Car restorers who can do the job at a price. Pete Sparrow in Hereford is about my closest. Apart from that, it’s back to the backstreet cowboys, who charge legal profession rates by the hour, and whose work might fail soon after warranty expires. A lot of them learn their trade from Design & Technology classes at school, with their emphasis on social justice and monetizing and marketing, rather than engineering.
The least trustworthy are the dealers, who simply say “you want a new one, mate”.
🙁
I guess the only solution is for you to attend night school, and learn to do it yourself. Panel-beating and car-body welding looks easy (when done by an expert) but isn’t really. Also, you’d need a reasonable garage to do it in.
You ‘beat’ any sort of metal, you need to be able to make it malle(t)able to bend or form and then harden/remove internal stress
on the task completion.
This requires heat, either direct from a forge/blowlamp/welding torch or annealing and normalising salt baths for aluminium etc
First they privatised the further education college, then the useful courses were centralised onto Evesham 20 miles away, and now they have announced the closure of the college, planning that more money can be made selling the site off to a developer. My MP has invoked a restrictive covenant about its change of use, but that can be undone of course with expert lobbyists.
The Independent-run district council has made a bid to run it as a community college, but their funds are limited. The real money is with the Conservative-run County, which is also responsible for the county’s education, but they are the ones who sold it off in the first place, and further education is way down on their list of priorities.
So night school is not really an option these days.
:-((
We have a similar situation, Jeremy, our little local garage does MoTs and repairs all types of cars, ancient and modern, and the owner is looking to sell it and retire to his little house in France.
It will be a sad day when he goes, taking all that expertise with him. Time to turn the pretendy Universities back to Polytechnics and start giving apprentices some practical training.
Agree, Tom.
Firstborn didn’t want to go to University, so he took a fagbrev (C&G) in motor technician. Through hardwork, he now not only earns really good money, but is qualified in diagnostics and electric cars. The only debt he has is the mortgage on his smallholding – and, through careful positioning of parts of the business, he can claim VAT back and pays b-all tax. Rather better than if he’d taken a non-subject requiring a loan, then been paying it back from a burger-flipping job.
Arguably with engines being designed, modelled and effectively built in a computer these days – real time modelling of CFD? Fuel explosions inside a piston? All astonishing stuff.
Yet we will never have that base again if the demented greeniacs force their stupidity on us.
It’s a 2CV, take it to a lawnmower repair shop? (runs away)
I believe that the old RAF base at Bicester is a centre for classic car repair now. They recruit apprentices to specialise in classic car repair. Not sure how much they know about 2CVs though.
Good morning all.
A dull & damp 10°C start, but it’s not actually raining at the moment.
A response to Richard’s last post on yesterday’s page:-
https://twitter.com/BeardedBob7282/status/1421351039484182529
Morning Bob. Got to keep up the Fearmongering!
336064+ up ticks,
Morning AS,
I take this take on sage to be my take also,
https://youtu.be/L-mO8KG4Q7M
The same applies to Climate change policies, environmental policies and immigration etc..
Debates are necessary with both sides given equal publicity. Our delusional PM is using his dictatorial power to introduce legislation that is destroying this country.
Ah, that Classical education gave him ideas.
Now, is he following Caesar or Nero?
As low as that, I thought they were going for three in four at least.
336064+ up ticks,
Morning Bob,
Much as I like Boc ( No gas) he gives them credit for success.
Anne Marie sees sage as politico’s through & through.
What? I thought the death rate from covid was at least 147%.
Has SAGE recruited Pollyanna?
No, the Abbopotamus.
This is the level of depression I must have sunk to. I read this and thought, so what. I may as well be dead. So if I am amongst the one third why should I care? I might be better off somehow.
Hello abbie, it’s nice to see you over here!
I don’t for a moment believe that any covid strain will cause 33% mortality.
If this scenario happens, it will be due to something else. But it’s probably just scaremongering.
The scamdemic is a job creation/retention scheme for the communists embedded in SAGE.
Continued taxpayer funding is the Leftwaffe goal, regardless of the price in human misery.
The MSM has gone vaccination crazy today, even GB news.
It’s a good job we have a diversion with the Olympics.
Just caught a bit of the trampolining final, no Brits in it, but like any sport, I suppose it has it’s ups and downs.
If the Brits got knocked out in an earlier stage, they will probably be aiming to bounce back.
We are good at sitting and falling events though, trampolining requires ascending as well as descending.
Good morning, all. Grey, raining, very strong winds. A day of leisure at resort, I fear…
WTAF!!!!!!!!!!!
https://twitter.com/DisabledJourno/status/1420295019441819651?s=19
And if the mother said:
“If that’s what you do, then abort it now, it’s my body”
I suppose there would be some NHS medics who would go along with that too.
There is something seriously wrong with society today.
I thought that human life began at conception but, according to some people, this is not the case and I am wrong.
The Japanese (presumably the Shinto followers) believe the soul enters the baby at birth,
Some people would agree to abortion up to the point of birth.
I suppose it saves the poor midwives the agony of telling a mother that their severely disabled child was still-born as opposed to smothered.
IIRC, Dawn Butler insists that babies don’t have a sex before they are born, so perhaps they don’t have a soul either.
No child is property. No *one* is property of another. The child does not ‘belong’ to you. You’ve a duty of care to support it and help him to grow as a free thinking human being.
As regards enforcing a PCR test and vaccination – no. Again, duty of care and responsibility. The parents are responsible. it is their duty – IF they believe a test is rational, that is their choice.
Thus is the difference between the statist view and the common sense, libertarian view.
Good morning all.
#CovidClownWorld
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As the Fataturk U-Turns on Mandatory Clotshots for students
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Weather’s improved here so I’m off to the island of Ven for the day.
South Africa
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Similar to yesterday’s owl, some of these photographs look like skilfully executed paintings.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/30/pictures-day-prince-charles-enjoys-wee-dram-whisky-lerwick-
404 page not found.
Perhaps because I’m not a subscriber.
They look so sad.
Probably mourning the loss of another great tusker to the effing murdering terrorist ivory rustlers.
Rain droplets on a dandelion clock seed
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Very nice, but that’s a thistle seed.
Risky Laff
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One for Grizz
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That’s already happening.
Lockdown fanatics have created a poisonous Covid culture war
The vicious abuse heaped on those who question the rules betrays the nasty side of the pro-lockdown brigade
CAMILLA TOMINEY ASSOCIATE EDITOR 30 July 2021 • 8:00pm
Remember the backlash against Michael Gove’s suggestion that we had all had it up to here with experts? The Brexiteer was speaking out against remainiac organisations like the CBI presenting their doomsday predictions as gospel, but the EU’s useful idiots on Twitter didn’t see it that way.
They couldn’t get enough of experts, provided they supported their rather narrow world view that Britain was finished without Brussels. Anyone with a dissenting opinion or in possession of contradictory data was branded a “liar”, a “little Englander” or even “in hock with the Russians”.
And now it’s happening all over again with the pandemic. As former Supreme Court judge Lord Sumption put it last month, the scientists who challenge the official wisdom on Covid are being persecuted “like Galileo”. Falsely branded “Covid deniers” and “anti-vaxxers” simply for questioning some of the science that has been slavishly followed, defamatory slurs have been used to silence the debate.
Lord Sumption spoke out after Professor Robert Dingwall, who has sat on a number of government advisory committees, faced a storm of online abuse after he was alleged to have downplayed long covid. Pointing out that more research needed to be carried out, he said afterwards: “I have never denied that there seems to be a post-viral syndrome associated with coronavirus. My main concern is that we do not have a good definition of how it is linked to the infection in order to offer effective treatments.”
He isn’t the only one to have fallen victim to the online mob of armchair experts who think they know better. Oxford professor Carl Heneghan has also been criticised, not only on social media but by fellow academics as well for questioning the restrictions, while Professor Sunetra Gupta, also from Oxford, says she faced an “astonishing backlash” for calling for a focused protection approach. Leading oncologist Professor Karol Sikora, who has pointed out the collateral harms of lockdowns, has also been singled out for abuse.
So much for science supposedly being advanced by open debate.
One article blamed the media for “pitting scientists against each other” but as Cambridge statistician Professor David Spiegelhalter was brave enough to point out: “Shouldn’t this be: ‘Scientists should rise above polarised policy debates’? Odd to just blame media.” Indeed.
Yet it appears even science can fall victim to the virtue-signalling that has come to define modern Britain. Just as Brexit was branded “bad” and remain “good”, we now have self-appointed moral crusaders trying to sully the mask-less as “murderers” . However, you do not need to look far to discover who has really been drinking the Kool-Aid here – and once again, it isn’t the silent majority who want life to go back to normal.
No, it’s the hard-Left “zero Covid” extremists who have been trying to politicise the pandemic from the start. Having spent their lives sucking on the teet of socialism, they simply cannot bear the idea of the big state bubble bursting any time soon.
Seemingly in a blind panic that the fall in case numbers threatens to prove them wrong, they are resorting to ever more desperate measures to discredit those who argue that the success of the vaccination roll-out should count for something. As well as trying to tar lockdown sceptics with the “pseudoscience” brush, they are now suggesting that scientists who question the wisdom of closing down the country are part of some sort of Right-wing conspiracy.
Notwithstanding the fact that you’d be hard pressed to find any Oxbridge (or other) academic supporting Tory politics, let alone Trumpian ideology, these “progressives” are now actively peddling the idea that those who signed the Great Barrington Declaration expressing “grave concerns” about coronavirus policies did so as part of some secret capitalist plot.
Meanwhile, lockdown sceptics have been accused of lobbying MPs and trying to gain political and media influence, with an aim to wrestle back control from Sage, as if the promotion of diversity of scientific opinion on Covid was somehow corrupt or a bad thing.
Presumably they are now ready to denounce Professor Neil Ferguson for saying he is “positive” the bulk of the pandemic will be behind us by October? Say what you like about the Imperial College London professor, whose Grim Reaperish modelling never quite materialises, but at least he’s got the capacity to react to the latest data in an honest fashion, rather than simply ignoring it to suit a skewed agenda. As the epidemiologist told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme of the recent fall in infections: “I’m happy to be proved wrong if it’s wrong in the right direction. If case numbers stay low that will be really good news.”
The truth of the matter is that it has been a Conservative government that has brought in arguably the most Left-wing policies in recent political history – with Labour’s fulsome support. Moreover, unlike the covid “eliminators” who have an ideological interest in keeping restrictions in place, the scientists who have dared to question the status quo have gained nothing but derision throughout. In some cases, even their universities have refused to support them.
Rather than being aligned with the madcap former nurse who told a recent anti-lockdown rally that doctors should be hanged as they were at Nuremberg, the vast majority of those who voice concerns about restrictions are doing it for the right reasons. They are simply concerned that the cure might be worse than the disease.
Earlier this week, a lady called Lisa King got in touch to tell me how her beloved husband Peter became a “non-Covid casualty” last October. Having repeatedly been denied a face-to-face GP appointment, he was finally told he needed his gallbladder removed, only for the operation to be delayed due to coronavirus. His death, in agonising pain at the age of 62, was completely avoidable.
As Mrs King explained: “You know his cereal box is still in a kitchen cupboard. His soya milk is still in the fridge. His coat and shoes are still in the hallway. And his espresso cup (I have covered it in cling film) is still on the side table next to his armchair. But to the decision makers he is nothing more than ‘collateral damage’. To me, he is the love of my life.”
If we don’t speak up for people like Mr King, then who will?
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/30/lockdown-fanatics-have-created-poisonous-covid-culture-war/
336064+ up ticks,
Morning C,
The pointing out of the twitter twats deserves a nation wide peal of bells, but you know you are on target when………
Science IS advanced by debate, criticism and improvement through evidence.
The government doesn’t present science though. It doesn’t like science. It prefers dogma which it dresses up as science , and the clothes simply don’t fit. Dogma cannot be challenged. It cannot be argued with – because like religion it is baseless. Dogma is the emperor’s new clothes, reliant on enforcing support lest someone point out the truth.
Lockdown fanatics have created a poisonous Covid culture war
The vicious abuse heaped on those who question the rules betrays the nasty side of the pro-lockdown brigade
CAMILLA TOMINEY ASSOCIATE EDITOR 30 July 2021 • 8:00pm
Remember the backlash against Michael Gove’s suggestion that we had all had it up to here with experts? The Brexiteer was speaking out against remainiac organisations like the CBI presenting their doomsday predictions as gospel, but the EU’s useful idiots on Twitter didn’t see it that way.
They couldn’t get enough of experts, provided they supported their rather narrow world view that Britain was finished without Brussels. Anyone with a dissenting opinion or in possession of contradictory data was branded a “liar”, a “little Englander” or even “in hock with the Russians”.
And now it’s happening all over again with the pandemic. As former Supreme Court judge Lord Sumption put it last month, the scientists who challenge the official wisdom on Covid are being persecuted “like Galileo”. Falsely branded “Covid deniers” and “anti-vaxxers” simply for questioning some of the science that has been slavishly followed, defamatory slurs have been used to silence the debate.
Lord Sumption spoke out after Professor Robert Dingwall, who has sat on a number of government advisory committees, faced a storm of online abuse after he was alleged to have downplayed long covid. Pointing out that more research needed to be carried out, he said afterwards: “I have never denied that there seems to be a post-viral syndrome associated with coronavirus. My main concern is that we do not have a good definition of how it is linked to the infection in order to offer effective treatments.”
He isn’t the only one to have fallen victim to the online mob of armchair experts who think they know better. Oxford professor Carl Heneghan has also been criticised, not only on social media but by fellow academics as well for questioning the restrictions, while Professor Sunetra Gupta, also from Oxford, says she faced an “astonishing backlash” for calling for a focused protection approach. Leading oncologist Professor Karol Sikora, who has pointed out the collateral harms of lockdowns, has also been singled out for abuse.
So much for science supposedly being advanced by open debate.
One article blamed the media for “pitting scientists against each other” but as Cambridge statistician Professor David Spiegelhalter was brave enough to point out: “Shouldn’t this be: ‘Scientists should rise above polarised policy debates’? Odd to just blame media.” Indeed.
Yet it appears even science can fall victim to the virtue-signalling that has come to define modern Britain. Just as Brexit was branded “bad” and remain “good”, we now have self-appointed moral crusaders trying to sully the mask-less as “murderers” . However, you do not need to look far to discover who has really been drinking the Kool-Aid here – and once again, it isn’t the silent majority who want life to go back to normal.
No, it’s the hard-Left “zero Covid” extremists who have been trying to politicise the pandemic from the start. Having spent their lives sucking on the teet of socialism, they simply cannot bear the idea of the big state bubble bursting any time soon.
Seemingly in a blind panic that the fall in case numbers threatens to prove them wrong, they are resorting to ever more desperate measures to discredit those who argue that the success of the vaccination roll-out should count for something. As well as trying to tar lockdown sceptics with the “pseudoscience” brush, they are now suggesting that scientists who question the wisdom of closing down the country are part of some sort of Right-wing conspiracy.
Notwithstanding the fact that you’d be hard pressed to find any Oxbridge (or other) academic supporting Tory politics, let alone Trumpian ideology, these “progressives” are now actively peddling the idea that those who signed the Great Barrington Declaration expressing “grave concerns” about coronavirus policies did so as part of some secret capitalist plot.
Meanwhile, lockdown sceptics have been accused of lobbying MPs and trying to gain political and media influence, with an aim to wrestle back control from Sage, as if the promotion of diversity of scientific opinion on Covid was somehow corrupt or a bad thing.
Presumably they are now ready to denounce Professor Neil Ferguson for saying he is “positive” the bulk of the pandemic will be behind us by October? Say what you like about the Imperial College London professor, whose Grim Reaperish modelling never quite materialises, but at least he’s got the capacity to react to the latest data in an honest fashion, rather than simply ignoring it to suit a skewed agenda. As the epidemiologist told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme of the recent fall in infections: “I’m happy to be proved wrong if it’s wrong in the right direction. If case numbers stay low that will be really good news.”
The truth of the matter is that it has been a Conservative government that has brought in arguably the most Left-wing policies in recent political history – with Labour’s fulsome support. Moreover, unlike the covid “eliminators” who have an ideological interest in keeping restrictions in place, the scientists who have dared to question the status quo have gained nothing but derision throughout. In some cases, even their universities have refused to support them.
Rather than being aligned with the madcap former nurse who told a recent anti-lockdown rally that doctors should be hanged as they were at Nuremberg, the vast majority of those who voice concerns about restrictions are doing it for the right reasons. They are simply concerned that the cure might be worse than the disease.
Earlier this week, a lady called Lisa King got in touch to tell me how her beloved husband Peter became a “non-Covid casualty” last October. Having repeatedly been denied a face-to-face GP appointment, he was finally told he needed his gallbladder removed, only for the operation to be delayed due to coronavirus. His death, in agonising pain at the age of 62, was completely avoidable.
As Mrs King explained: “You know his cereal box is still in a kitchen cupboard. His soya milk is still in the fridge. His coat and shoes are still in the hallway. And his espresso cup (I have covered it in cling film) is still on the side table next to his armchair. But to the decision makers he is nothing more than ‘collateral damage’. To me, he is the love of my life.”
If we don’t speak up for people like Mr King, then who will?
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/30/lockdown-fanatics-have-created-poisonous-covid-culture-war/
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Morning Each,
“The Beginning”
And so the peoples selected their side in the coming hostile jaboree.
https://twitter.com/RogerHelmerMEP/status/1421363741652930561
336064+ up ticks,
O2O,
There must be rules for the coming conflict, the toxic political trio lab/lib/con MUST be rhetorically annihilated, incarcerated, locked down offshore in an Alcatraz type environment until cessation of hostilities
They must, in NO way ever profit from politics again.
Sh!te or bust MUST be the order of the day.
We watched the (recorded) final part of the “100 days to the end of the War” on PBSAmerica last night. Despite what others have said, I found it gripping and saw archive film that I had never seen before in 70 yeas of studying that conflict.
The final scenes of Hitler ‘s gang in the Bunker – plotting, killing, planning their getaway etc – put me in mind of BPAPM and HIS gang of unappetising nonentities – such as Glove, Shitts, Useless Eustice, that sinister Iraqi, Fuckland, “Important” Whittingdale – and the rest of the creeps who smirk and pontificate and try to crush us…
One can but hope that they will suffer the same fate.
Did you ever watch “Downfall” (Der Untergang), Bill?
Well-made movie dramatising the end, from the German’s point of view. Interestingly, used very few sets and almost no outdoor filming, and was one of the few movies I have seen where the atmosphere is palpable.
Being German, it isn’t too upbeat – but then, the subject didn’t end well for the main characters.
Don’t tell us how it ends.
The dog dies.
Now you’ve ruined it – for all of us.
Spoilsport – go back to Topping up your Tan like the rest of TOWIE!
Damn it!
The boat sinks
But the iceberg survives…
The beginning is also good, though some took umbrage.
It shows Hitler as a chap who was kind to his potential employees. Whether it was true or not, it did make you think. After all, he must have had something other than eye popping rage to take him to the top.
His love of dogs.
There are a couple of Jordan Petersen videos on YouTube about Hitler. Interesting stuff.
I will have a look. It looks as if today will be an indoor day.
This is a fascinating documentary of a woman that worked for Hitler at the Berghof, she has nothing but kind words for Hitler and Eva Braun. Like so many things life is not so black and white. Paradoxically she likes Israel!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt8OSNz0tBo
“Hitler’s former made“??
Noticed that too. I suspect a German did the title.
It just demonstrates how easily people can be, and are, led by psychopathic hate-speak when it suits their agenda. Disagree and you’re in trouble, but of course it couldn’t happen again now, could it?
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cb1b8f1681e9fecfda46f64eb94d675c15b8284e5c67ff85dc65bd468cb2230b.jpg
Of course it wont happen again, especially NOT in this country. Ahem.
I’ve see the bit where Hitler gets annoyed about England losing to Wales in the rugby.
Morning, all Y’all.
Started sunny and cool, now clouding over.
Here’s an interesting one, from https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-57897237
“Five weeks after we left hospital, a lovely walk turned unpleasant. A man appeared, aggressively shouting, “Why is your baby so white?” He circled around us, seemingly enraged.
“Why is she so white? Did you get with a white man? That’s what happens when you get with a white man! Look at her, look at her, look at her – why is she so white?”
I was appalled, afraid, and embarrassed by the audience he had attracted. I couldn’t understand why this man, who was the same colour as me, was so offended.
In fact, all the negative comments about my baby’s skin colour were from people the same hue as me. I didn’t get it. I had never imagined mixed-race families had to go through this.”
The last line is telling.
As ye sow, so shall ye reap….
People of whatever skin tone prefer to be with their own kind.
Interesting that she got racism from other blecks, not from the Über-racist Whitey.
We have an old friend who a few years ago made an astounding statement, telling us in our circle of friends that her great grand father was a black Caribbean man, she has only black hair, no other obvious features, nor in her immediate family, but she is more than a bit feisty.
Look at me !
I’m as helpless as a kitten up a tree……….
One of our friends has a Jamaican mother. It is quite discombobulating to hear a white woman speak with a Jamaican accent.
Michael Manley was like that.
I rather disagree. It’s the ‘type’ of person. I’m perfectly comfortable around my friend John – a 8′ Nigerian neurologist as I am around any of my other friends.
(He’s not really 8′ tall, but it can feel like it).
The people I don’t and wouldn’t get on with are the Charmaines, the Kelvins of this world. The chavs. I’ve nothing, nothing in common with them.
That said I imagine I’d find Cameron a dreadful bore – I slept through one of his waffling speeches at a bank do.
One of my friends is of Southern indian origin (her C20 family history is fascinating). I can discuss things with her that would send many white friends into absolute conniptions.
”
“He’s not really 8′ tall.”
Thanks for clarifying:)
Could have been this guy…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Wadlow
Did they console themselves by buying a bargain three piece suite?
Is that sale STILL on?
Since roughly 1983.
But, but, but – black people can’t be racist. Only white people are racist. Fact.
But it’s OK for a black male to ‘go with’ a white woman I assume.
A Change Is As Good…
A man and wife are in the livestock section at the county fair.
They happen upon a stall, where there is a large bull.
Upon reading the sign posted by the stall, the wife exclaims: “Look here dear! It says this bull mated 365 times last year! That’s once per day!
I think you need to take some lessons from this bull.”
To which her husband replied: “Go and ask the farmer if all 365 times were with the same cow .”
“The partner of a man who died after an e-scooter crash called today for helmets to be made compulsory for riders. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/escooter-helmets-must-be-made-compulsory-says-victim-s-partner-b948451.html?__vfz=medium%3Dstandalone_content_recirculation_with_ads
Anthony Mumford, 53, was on his way home from his shoe repair business in Twickenham when he was thrown from the e-scooter on July 15.”
If it is so important, surely the scootee would want to wear one anyhow? And, if they don’t, whose fault is that? Where’s the personal responsibility here, just say “No to Nanny” and do what you think is right. (Morning, Tom!)
‘Morning and thank you, Paul, for epitomising the reason for my avatar.
She has completely failed to notice the small issue that it was illegal to ride his own scooter anywhere but private land. If he had obeyed the law, he would still be alive, helmet or not.
A supposedly adult woman buys a scooter for an adult man. He dies after falling off. The same woman calls for new laws to be enacted requiring scooter riders to wear a helmet.
Why didn’t she buy him a helmet? Discuss.
Indeed.
Doesn’t sound like there was much in the bank, maybe a look at any recent life insurance policies might provide the answer.
Snap. Good morning, Fellow Cynic.
Is “not much in the bank” a euphemism for “not too much up top”?
That as well!
(Cough) Life Insurance Policy (Cough)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELufSzviGoU
(Cough) Life Insurance Policy (Cough)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELufSzviGoU
Ah, but by demanding enforcement you project the blame on to others. No longer is it your fault, your duty to care for yourself, but it is someone else’s.
336064+ up tick,
On the council level seemingly the children are needed as top up PIE
material that is becoming abundantly clear in today’s society.
https://twitter.com/RogerHelmerMEP/status/1421370432771530753
336064+ up ticks,
O2O,
Makes one wonder Og why the peoples return these same political odious types / party’s to power, again,again,& again, they have proved the power of the political kiss X and the damage it has done daily over the decades.
Have we ever been so badly governed?
This lot could learn a few tips about efficient government from Aethelraed the Unready.
At least he organised a massacre of unwanted incomers.
Have we ever been so badly governed?
Answer: No.
Even Callaghan and John Major were not so stunningly useless.
Ref, the TCW . This is the first comment I could find. In response to your comment about being locked up I said : Historically, there was one precedent for locking the sick up with the healthy , that was in the Plague of London in 1665. where in parts of London, when someone contracted the plague, they did indeed lock all the family in with them and even boarded the doors so they couldn’t get out. As I recall, they also killed all the cats and dogs, which meant the vermin ( rats) carriers of the plague bred out of control and bit people thus passing it on further and further.
Hope this gets by the censor but I have no idea what is wrong with it. Its a direct paste of what I said on TCW.
Slight adjustment to detail; it was the fleas on the rats that administered the disease spreading bites.
(Today’s ear worm will be the “Court of King Caractacus” …)
Newbies get special treatment when posting. A bit like nailing your front door shut until you can prove you aren’t spreading
the plaguecovidnonsense.A race to the bottom?
(Why does the vision of a canoodling Handycock spring to mind?)
I think, he was not aiming at the ‘bottom’, more to the front!
Lost his (moral) compass?
Do it the old fashioned way, as for wind direction
Lick finger and point it upwards into the ……..
Ah yes …. come to NOTTL for a better class of conversation.
336064+ up ticks,
Morning LiM,
They have certainly improved all round in the treachery department all systems go now is the order of the
day, regarding repress, reset,replace
and still with the peoples consent.
Is part of the problem that we are not ‘governed’, in that policy is created for the common good – but rather ‘ruled’ and dictated to by an arrogant, statist class?
336064+ up ticks,
Morning Anne,
I believe, “have we ever been so badly governed?” these currently top the bill.
Then again they are highly efficient concerning their true agenda fear riddled treachery.
They are not & never have been working to the Brexitexit formula.
Sad to say with peoples consent via the polling booth.
‘Morning, Anne, now, there’s an idea!
Anglo-Saxons were good at creative thinking. They came up with parishes, counties and a darn good language.
Including, “Swive off.”
Yo anne
The massacre is waiting in the wings
When all the slammer boatmen, (aka the IBS: Islamic Boat Service) rise up against us Whities and take our houses,
kids,cars etc
My family laugh at me when I say such things to them. But sadly they’ll learn their lessons very late in life.
I suspect it will start with government instructions to receive lodgers.
Oh, it’s inevitable, but then it will be made our fault.
People wonder why this country is no poorer, with higher crime. It’s because of massive, uncontrolled immigration from a group that simply refuse to integrate. A waster class.
Yes. Labour’s ruination. Our current lot are incompetent. The Labour horror was intentional.
The biggest problem we have is the Wokey Dopies.
🎵You put yer left leg in, yer left leg out,
in out in out, you shake it all about,
You do the Wokey Dopey and yer turn around,
That’s what it’s all about,
Oh wokey wokey dopey,….. oh wokey wokey dopey,
knee bend turn it round blah blah blah. 🎶
Sadly I think the current lot have made such a mess that it’s beyond just incompetence – there also seems to be a lot of sleaze involved.
‘Morning Anne.
Apropos Aelthelrraed, have you, or anybody, heard from our Saxon Queen lately?
Good point. Maybe she’s polishing her axe.
Is that the same as Mrs Slocombe stroking her pussy?
Priti useless doing an impression of Mutti Merkel.
336064+ up ticks,
Morning NtN,
And receiving the peoples consent.
Are they French councils? No? Then not really one for us to pass a law on.
Get rid of them.
How old are these ‘children’? Some are at least 35-40 years old.
336064+ up ticks,
Afternoon SiadC,
In the main for political reasons there are children & children.
Good Moaning.
If you are a duck or a pessimist, that is.
Not so good if you wish to top up your tan.
Good morrow, dear heart. How is YB?
Jogging along (not as in pounding pavements and bu88ering his joints!).
Tell him to carry on…!
Parents-in-Law want to come visiting this autumn. My advice was – wait ‘n see what happens regarding colours of countries, it’s all too uncertain, and very expensive to get it wrong.
Example from https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/travel-green-list-countries-announced-today-what-time-holidays-b933732.html
“What you need to know about PCR tests
PCR tests must be booked through an approved Government provider. Tests currently cost between £120 and £160, however ministers are looking at ways to reduce the price to just £45 to help boost the travel industry.”
So, just to get a (well dodgy) test will cost them about £300 – and there are airfares at about £40 from London – Oslo.
Then, arrival from the UK currently, as long as they can document their vaccination status through the EU system, can enter. It’s a bit uncertain if they can quarantine at our place, or in a
prison campquarantine hotel – at their own cost, for 10 days.Sound inviting…
Indeed.
Who would want to go anywhere with conditions like that?
I think that is the point.
336064+ up ticks,
Fact,
https://twitter.com/MariaSa44326613/status/1421298990642040834
336064+ up ticks,
In the main they didn’t have a leg to stand on and that was wrong in many of the peoples opinions.
breitbart,
KNEE-TAKING BRITISH OLYMPIC FOOTBALL TEAM ‘DEVASTATED’ AFTER BEING KNOCKED OUT OF COMPETITION
336062+ up ticks,
Beg to differ, openly,brazenly, brass neckedly, in your face, though the
bloody front door along with the DOVER daily intake is more apt.
Reform UK’s Tice Brands Vax Passports ‘Blackmail and Coercion Through Back Door’
Good morning, everyone.
Morning all not sure if it was live but I have just witness the GB ladies (woe mens) take a hammering for the rugby 7s bronze medal position. They lost to the Fiji ‘boys’ club.
But they silly ‘billys’ took the knee again and to me it’s a psychological disadvantage, the winners kneel in victory.
“ladies sevens”. I remarked to the Sultana this morning that it would be attractive only to those who enjoy public executions.
“However, I would ask manufacturers to consider the need for a secure home in every car for a handbag.
Having a loose bag rolling around is both dangerous and distracting.”
Geraldine Wills Chaffcombe, Somerset
Make the Mother-in-Law put her seat belt on
You know those reversing/obstacle warning beepers? The Mother in Law ignored them as they were ‘annoying’. Especially when they turned into a single shrill tone. They ‘stopped her thinking’.
The runabout goes into the garage to find out the damage on Monday. I imagine as it’s a small car, there will be engine damage.
Every little helps?????
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/589479
10174!
10179 and distributed
10,275.
10,183
Off shore, in their own country would be handy.
How about somewhere short of the readies?
Zimbabwe?
Good idea now that murdering POS Mugabe is dead, they have a good chance of survival, there’s plenty of vacant farmland.
NO!
They are illegal immigrants. They have NO right to be here. No point processing them. They should simply not be here at all. We’re not responsible for processing them.
If they were asylum seekers then they can apply from where they first are safe.
If they are economic migrants they can apply legally.
These are not. They are illegal welfare gimmigrants. Nothing else. We’ve no duty or responsibility to them at all EXCEPT to return then to France, to destroy the boats and protect our borders.
But is there a single MP in the HoC who is prepared to say this openly?
No. 10,207
10,211 – a rather slow rate of increase!
10,326 @12:49
Just about to go out to deliver the village newsletter when Gus came in with a live shrew – which he dropped in the sitting room – a gift, no doubt.
So the last 15 minutes were fun…
The MR managed to trap it and get it out of the house – while Gus looked on, puzzled, wondering, no doubt, why we didn’t eat it.
Back later…!
Shake a spear at it Bill that usually works.
I remember when we had a cat, I was lazing with the Sunday paper it fell to the floor i must have dozed orff, I awoke to the paper making strange movements and found the cat had brought in a frog.
A Frenchman? Gosh!
I set back on course and released him in the garden where he tucked into the snails.
There was a moose loose aboot your hoose?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wioh5qUj7fM
Next time Gus is a bit bored he knows exactly what to do to get an all singing all dancing show on the road.
Come to the cabaret. He can chow down on the mouse while his slaves dance the fandango.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcLUC7yj7vY
Right. I moth. Gonna trip the light fantastic.
Did the MR at least Tame the Shrew before releasing it?
It lived to squeak again…
So the whole incident was much ado about nothing?
Or What you Will.
Will of Will & Kate or Will & Harry the frog prince who married a Z lister Hollyweird actress ?
As You Like It.
I definitely like it but at my age & infirmity the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMJ_cnj2g2g
“Kiss Me, Kate?”
Or as Peter Tatchell says ” Kiss Me, Mate “
…and it’s not even 11 o’clock…
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6855a7800b7c933248b7942d6752d6e50ce5299e6b8c4966c01f125bc2393a14.jpg
Paws for thought.
At what time does the 11 o’clock news come on? ( asking for an Irish friend & brain of Ireland contestant )
Thought for the day.
A petition should be set up so that those who approve of accepting more illegal immigrants/asylum seekers can sign up.
Then, when the petition passes its end date, all those who signed in favour should be traced and forced to accept a quota of the immigrants to house and feed them at their own expense until the gimmegrants decide they can support themselves.
If they never decide that they can, then they should inherit the house when the petitioners die.
That should p!ss off all the little Ballses.
Indeed.
I would go through all public announcements from the pro-unfettered immigration mobs and do just that. We could start by confiscating all the Blair’s houses.
Teflon ? Still poking his nose in and he’s still reveling in and behind the the tax payers 24/7 365 armed protection units.
Property Tycoon Blair has most of his properties registered in his wife & children’s names & I read in an offshore trust for some so that he appears to be a rent paying tenant for tax purposes as well as the trust collecting rents from other tenants & being offshore either avoids tax or pays minimal tax.
It would not surprise me. Parasites, the lot of them.
Happy Saturday SoS – his wife & kids also have Irish citizenship & passports so I assume they have properties in the Republic either directly owned or owned by the offshore trust
Mr Blair’s late mother Hazel was from County Donegal, so he could easily apply for Irish citizenship, not sure about the children, but probably yes if Hazel was still Irish when Tony was born.
He is entitled to Irish citizenship as is Cherrie & his kids who have been reported as traveling with Irish passports several times to the USA & Africa rather than use their British passports supposedly for security & privacy reasons .
Of course if they were ever to get into trouble abroad, they would want British protection.
I am of the Australian philosophy/mindset when it comes to dual citizenship: if you want to hold it, stay out of public office (and be prepared to be excluded from any Civil Service role that requires high level security clearance).
Whilst Cherrie is a barrister & a patron of a spurious Palestinian charity group started by her good friend Suha Arafat, widow of the PLO terrorist and thief, I don’t know if that constitutes public office, but my guess is that she holds a British Diplomatic Passport like her husband does ( as an ex-PM ). Their children on the other hand are private citizens & not involved in politics at present & its just an accident of birth that they are related to Britain’s most heinous traitor since William Joyce ( Lord Haw Haw ) & in Blairs case an as yet untried war criminal.
Of course if they were ever to get into trouble abroad, they would want British protection.
I am of the Australian philosophy/mindset when it comes to dual citizenship: if you want to hold it, stay out of public office (and be prepared to be excluded from any Civil Service role that requires high level security clearance).
Of course if they were ever to get into trouble abroad, they would want British protection.
I am of the Australian philosophy/mindset when it comes to dual citizenship: if you want to hold it, stay out of public office (and be prepared to be excluded from any Civil Service role that requires high level security clearance).
Do he and his entourage still occupy about half the King David Hotel?
Nope, he never lived there but did hold meetings with PLO officials & left wing Israeli business people there. He had an official residence with the rent paid for by the EU for a number of years in the Western part of the city . He also held meetings in the Arab owned American Colony Hotel which is the PLO’s unofficial HQ in East Jerusalem where they brief Arab loving Western media over sumptuous meals in their 5 star gourmet restaurant. Blair is reputedly a silent partner / board member in several joint Israeli-Palestinian Hi-Tech ventures funded by the EU which have never come to market and operate at a loss yet pay their managers & board members high salaries. Once again Blair has somehow either got his salary & bonus paid to him via his families off-shore & tax free trust in the Caribbean or possibly through the low tax Irish part of his holdings & non-domicile status. Either way his family fortune is now well above the £100M it was just a few years after he left office mostly to Cherries lucrative property schemes & in part to his own Hi Tech investments , board memberships & extremely high consultation fees from representing foreign business & multiple high paid speaking engagements for banks, investment companies & charities.
Ah yes …. Charles Lynton’s myriad charities.
Don’t forget they already have a dozen or so in their various houses – and are paying their university fees….
And the people who want them can be told by the authorities PC immigrant employee . . “of course you can safely leave your 3 young daughters in care of the new lodgers” They’ll take VERY good care of them.
Good morning all, another enjoyable read through comments that prove I’m not a dribbling eejit…yet. I shall shortly be having my haircut for the first time in 15 months. As, even with a hat, it was getting in the way of my golf swing (which I assure you needs no further impediments). If I’m too weak to open the lap top later I’m sure you’ll understand. 😉
Tripping over it, were you?
“Why, why, why … Delilah ….?”
Back from shopping in town, the sheep are still out in force, walking along the streets with a face nappy on!
Words (printable ones) fail me.
To misquote JFK . ” Ask not what your NHS can do for you but what you can do for your NHS ” Keep Britain Socialist, keep it a de facto tribute paying slave state of the EUSSR, keep it poor, keep it swamped with low IQ violent Black & Muslim savages from the 3rd world, keep terror & crime at high levels, cripple the law abiding taxpaying White citizens who love the UK with insane laws & regulation & kill off the elderly Whites ASAP to avoid paying them pensions – money that can be used to pay welfare & buy the votes of the Blacks & Muslims and above all else don’t go to hospital when you are sick with cancer or heart trouble as those beds are needed for healthy African & Middle-Eastern illegals to give birth in for free & for the all important Gender Re-assignment surgery for Transgenders & for those Chavs needing a Boob Job!! God Save the Queen & Prince Charles’s organic garden !
Rant Over, normal service will commence again after a short coffee break !
https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/queen-elizabeth-ii-and-prince-charles-prince-of-wales-news-photo-1575651739.jpg?crop=0.883xw:1.00xh;0.0826xw,0&resize=980:*
Just back – blimey, I had forgotten about letters boxes with teeth, with thick, impenetrable “brushes”, houses with NO letter box…..
Still an enjoyable hour being (just for once) public spirited…
My pet hate is those bloody letterboxes about 6 inches from the bottom of the door.
Apparently the Irish PO has banned them.
Good morning & happy Saturday all Nottlers. Its a blazing hot & humid 33’C in Tel Aviv at 13:30 PM , here belatedly is you morning music ration: Carolina in My Mind – The Petersens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yKeMIOhXjo
336064+ up ticks,
This choudary chappie reckons he could have done the 5 years standing on his head if so he should have received another 5 years to get him back on his feet ready for same day deportation on release along with any relations & close associates.
https://twitter.com/NKrankie/status/1421392021533700098
He needs an unexplained fatal accident ASAP, if only he had some dirt on the Clintons they would arrange his transfer to the Muslim Paradise swiftly & with style !
He would spontaneously commit suicide?
Die of an electric shock whilst recharging his Goats R Us inflatable Virgin sex doll in the pool
Thank goodness I’d finished my cup of tea and wasn’t planning to eat anything with it.
Not even one of Damian Thompsons favorite rich tea biscuits ?
336064+ up ticks,
The only foreseeable reason for taking such actions is intense hatred of grandchildren IMO,condemning them from the maternity room ongoing to a life of ongoing maybe short lived suffering.
https://twitter.com/miss_anthrop75/status/1421417203941904384
“beginning”????
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Lucky it wasn’t an untested drug like thalidomide.
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Borrowed. It will be useful fighting the censorship coming our way in Canada.
Happy Saturday Richard. Canada is going the way of New Zealand & Australia, with semi-permanent Socialist government & a full time Globalist Socialist civil service & ditto in the provinces.
Have you been watching what is happening here?
I do follow the news & my longtime Canadian pen pal lives in Vancouver, you will find him posting as “Bill Smith ” the owner of the NTJP blog along with Filter a Canadian lady I correspond with. https://disqus.com/home/forum/81a9a82c-deaf-4c4b-898b-8116224e55e8/
They are both on the right & often post the antics of Turd-Eau & his crackpot government on NTJP. I also correspond with my Canadian Mod Chuck in Cardinal, who Mods on my blogs as well as owning his own science blog Life of Earth https://disqus.com/home/forum/lifeofearth/
Another thing for the owners of electric cars to worry about?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-58011014
Shocking.
There will be Resistance from a certain community. How do you expect the travelers to, err travel, in the new lectric age if they can’t camp on yr lawn for a few hours and suck juice.
Every cloud…
There will be Resistance from a certain community. How do you expect the travelers to, err travel, in the new lectric age if they can’t camp on yr lawn for a few hours and suck juice.
Oh dear, security concerns with Chinese made chargers that can be controlled remotely!
Let me guess, any new military vehicle will be electric and use Chinese charging stations. If a conflict threatens all the Chinese will need to do is disable the chargers.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9844145/Transgender-Kiwi-weightlifter-breaks-silence-divisive-Olympics-selection.html
Can someone explain to me how and why it is acceptable for a man to have the advantages of a performance enhancing drug while training, (testosterone during puberty) as a male, followed by performance reducing drugs so that he can then compete as a female to beat the real women. And yet if a real woman takes performance enhancing drugs to beat a fake female that that isn’t acceptable?
I think that would count as a hate message, sos. Sorry about that.
The explanation or my question?
Let me guess: Both?
Unless you make a grovelling apology and then cancel yourself.
(One way out is to transition…)
So that’s how you got away with it….
Soo last century.
QED
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-9846009/Tokyo-Olympics-Nigerians-Blessing-Okagbare-provisionally-suspended.html
A blessing in disguise?
A bare backed cheat too. But that’s Ok
I observe with a jaundiced eye. I presume that they all do stuff to enhance performance. The recent raid on a Tour de France team while the race was in progress was a search for drugs or other material to enhance performance. Lasse Viren gave himself blood transfusions of his own blood, using blood that was heavily oxygenated and stored till required for insertion prior to race. Bike racers have been drugged to the eyeballs since the bicycle was invented*. Cyclists and weightlifters have taken drugs such as EPO, despite the fact it can kill you in your sleep. The drugs used do change and the legislators try to find ways of catching them, playing catchup. I consider that drug-taking is now standard at some point, in training and/or in competition, and probably in most sports. As for level playing fields… ever notice how hyped up some rugby teams are when they come back onto the field after the half-time break?
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases_in_cycling
I suspect there is a significant proportion and there are times when I think sport should just let them get on with it.
The problem with that approach is that a lot of talented, but not quite good enough young sportspeople will be irreparably damaged, where before they would have dropped out before it became too serious.
I agree. If you want to take drugs it should be allowed. I read somewhere that the average life expectancy for a professional cyclist was mid-forties, but there are contrary studies and reports. Previously, for example, competitors in amateur sports were not allowed to take money. The All Blacks were payed in very roundabout ways, as were UK rugby players, jobs they never attended, kind of thing. More difficult for athletes. Professional athletes were shunned and unmentionable. The great George McNeill of Tranent is virtually unknown. He was banned from amateur athletics because he had been a professional footballer.
Now all sports are “open” I think.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_McNeill_(sprinter)
I recall when Carling was allegedly the first millionaire rugby player.
David Campese just laughed.
Like when the USSR gymnasts (etc.) were drugged to the eyeballs, years ago?
Yes. Tamara and Irena spring to mind, unfortunately…
A kid I know played golf on the pga tour tour for a couple of years. He took an over the counter cold remedy before checking the list of contents. When he discovered the medicine contained a banned substance he reported himself to the PGA and was given a six month suspension from the tour.
It seems that while some drug abuses are basically accepted, minor transgressions can be treated very harshly.
That’ll be the orange halves.
MDMA.
That’s 3-4 methylenedioxymethamphetamine to you, if you don’t mind!
I thought that was a village in Wales.
Yes, that’s where the name came from.
Surely that’s methylenedioxymethamphetaminegogogoch?
Is there a single sportsperson who has ‘transed’ from female to male who has then gone on to compete successfully in the Men’s division?
I doubt it.
Cox of an eight might be a possibility one day, though there are already some excellent female coxes.
Jockey could be a possibility.
STOP THINKING!!!!
It might be catching.
CBC has a article where that NZ weightlifter has thanked the Olympic committees for making it possible for ex-him to compete. Strangely no comments allowed.
Our Olympic coverage has gone woke, there is never an opportunity missed to highlight that a competitor is gay, trans or whatever.
Enough of the bs, I am off to watch the US Women’s Senior Open where women are real women (well would you question Laura Davies?).
Margaret Court playing? One of the tennis Courts…(boom boom).
Not if she was holding a golf club…
I believe the actual real female athletes missed an opportunity to protect themselves, and future actual real female athletes, bkxers, tennis players, etc etc, by agreeing to compete in these Olympics. It would have sent an irrevocable message around the world if they had al, stood up against the ridiculous unfairness of expecting them to compete agaiinst what are to all intents and purposes, men.
This would probably have also forced the debate into the open about males in women’s prisons, hospital wards etc as well
The trouble is that none of them would have been able to trust all the others not to compete. It’s hard, when some are the only ones to protest.
I’ve just watched a wee bit of the Olympics. I don’t know who, if any, of the commentators and discussion groups are actually in Japan, as there is so much CGI fakery in the background.
Steve Cram was commentating on the Men’s 100m heats. He seemed to be sober. But still useless.
The only presenters/talking heads that seem OK are Hazel Irvine, Gabby (and how!) Logan and Michael Johnson.
I’ve just watched a wee bit of the Olympics. I don’t know who, if any, of the commentators and discussion groups are actually in Japan, as there is so much CGI fakery in the background.
Steve Cram was commentating on the Men’s 100m heats. He seemed to be sober. But still useless.
The only presenters/talking heads that seem OK are Hazel Irvine, Gabby (and how!) Logan and Michael Johnson.
336064+ up ticks,
All reports must be of a selective nature to fit in with the repress,reset, replace campaign, if the reporters were to start reporting in a truthful fashion it would for starters upset the mullahs / imams and hinder the eventual take over,
https://twitter.com/johnaustin47/status/1421418200663613442
Jailed for life – nope – looked after then released to stay here and never be employed – who would employ murderers?
The IRA?
Trust you Bill
I aim to please.
And the IRA aim to do something else.
And they haven’t gone away…
I suspect this is the point where Our Willum runs up the Black Flag and starts cutting throats…..
https://twitter.com/AvonandsomerRob/status/1421209122247225344
Insanity,sheer madness what next Dogs??
Nope, pensioners.
They’ll put the dogs on an Isle….
…and what would you find if you turned gauche here?
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Où habite Madame Slocombe…
….avec sa pussy?
Quelle chance!
If you turned right you might find BT
This is how the Mail reported SAGE’s suggestions to ministers about culling:
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9844701/SAGE-Covid-variant-kill-one-three-people.html
This is how the Mail reported SAGE’s suggestions to ministers about culling:
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9844701/SAGE-Covid-variant-kill-one-three-people.html
That’s extended the pig pen into unturned ground.
Lots of grass and bushes to root in, and fresh ground to discover bits of plastic and old barbed wire in. Happy piggies!
People who control their EV charging at home with a wi-fi app risk getting their home network hacked:
Researchers also found it would be possible in cases where the chargers were connected by wi-fi to the home network, for hackers to also gain access.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-58011014
This home network vulnerability problem is not confined to EV chargers. Our Miele washing machine insisted on being connected to my home network before it could start a necessary calibration run. The installer was unable to demonstrate that the machine was working properly before he left because of lack of computer networking knowledge. I later found a way to bypass the default startup procedure on the initialisation menu on the machine.
The same problem arises with anything that communicates wirelessly at wi-fi or Bluetooth® frequencies. Fortunately (/unfortunately) the COVID-19 virus is not Bluetooth® compliant.
Makes it all rather a switch off.
Enough to put anyone in a spin.
AOE – -Not yet – but they are working on it
How about just doing things the old-fashioned way – with a time switch?
Edit :don’t have Alexa or any other gadget of that kind. Yes, we have broadband for three laptops, but that’s it (still probaby too much). Do people really need all the gizmos?
For garden fans – here is this year’s Trombetti frame. The plants are about 8 ft high. (More photos are available – please ask…!!!)
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I see where you got your inspiration – always the lawyer
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That ain’t no Stocks it’s a Gallows….
Ahem – THESE are Stocks…!!
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Very Chinese!
Nah… THESE are socks!
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You light have warned us that we’d get a whiff of the slurry!
;-))
I think the boot odour is worse…
Bigfoot.
You know what they say about men with big feet…
They need big shoes?
They don’t need to drive big cars.
Night scented…?
Go on then.
Is it just me, or do I detect a slight hint from newspapers that they are beginning to see through the propaganda from BPAPM and his henchmen?
Perhaps it’s because their pension pots are now being threatened by this”Green and Pleasant Land” drive (or not).
DT Headline:
‘Why is my pension being politicised?’: all retirement pots to go green, Government warns
Pension funds are moving money into ‘sustainable’ stocks but future returns are questionable….
My pension funds are already green. Invested in Amazonian logging companies. I’m thinking of diversifying into palm oil.
Pfizer stocks are worth nearly ten times what they were a year ago. Just sayin…
Thats what its all about vaccne every year for everyone. except me and Mrs N.
Never had a flu jab, never had this jab. Been testef for covid while in the hospital recently – nothing.
yet am old, overweight and diabetic, straight in the group that was told would die first.
It’s all about the money, but some people with bee’s in their bonnets get to indulge their murderous obsessions en route.
No bees in bonnet – but collecting two hives worth tomorrow.
🙂
Which means that pension funds will be buying high – and no doubt selling low.
I have yet to see it. One shop in town tells every customer they do not need a mask. They are sick of helping old people who have fallen over becasuse of the mask steaming up their specs and the like.
I haven’t worn a mask since we were “allowed” not to. Prior to that, it wasn’t worth the bother, so I masked if I was going into a supermarket with a Cerberus at the door.
There are still signs telling us to be caring, etc. Sadly 3/4 of people seem to be wearing masks. I haven’t been confronted yet ,though.
The beeb radio are still very selective on views they allow on the phone in progs. it is so blatantly biased it is laughable – and the people sound like the worst actors imaginable. If someone does express views against the bias they are cut off for the news, {which then happens after yet more callers } but also the cut off caller gets mocked in some way.
I don’t listen to the beeboid radio. Any of it.
I was thinking of newspapers and weekly magazines…some of whose editorial lines seem to be changing in our (NoTTLers) direction.
I have noticed slight things that have made me wonder. I can only think they are “testing the reaction”.
A few week ago on a late night phone in a caller went ballistic at the presenter – who lost it – and said if people can’t understand what they are reading !!!!! – – in relation to the xxx people died within 28 days of a positive result . . . . strangely enough the presenter a few shows later announced it was his last show ( and that he’d known for a while but wasn’t allowed to say ) – – and we all believe that !!!!
You are not alone…
Patrick O’Flynn
The danger of Boris Johnson’s eco-obsession
31 July 2021, 9:00am
It is a notable feather in Nigel Farage’s cap that his new evening show on GB News has already become essential viewing for Tory high-ups.
Last week brought a series of reports by well-connected commentators suggesting that Boris Johnson was worried about Farage highlighting the government’s chaotic failure to stem the cross-Channel flow of migrant boats. The issue has suddenly shot up the list of issues mentioned by Tory voters, with new polling from Redfield & Wilton Strategies now identifying immigration as their top concern.
This week the former Ukip leader has touched another nerve with some Tory MPs by wondering aloud whether their party’s green obsession is reaching a pitch that is going to put off many of its core voters.
‘I begin to think that Number 10 has been completely overtaken by a certain type of Green,’ said Farage. ‘I call them Richmond Greens. They live in £2million houses. They’re not really bothered about the fact that domestic bills are going up.’
When the comments were put out on the GB News twitter feed they were promptly retweeted by the ‘red wall’ Conservative MP Scott Benton, whose Blackpool South constituency is a long way from leafy Richmond-upon-Thames (where in reality one would need closer to £4million than £2million to buy a show-stopping home).
Mr Benton is unlikely to be alone among the new breed of Conservative MPs who are finely attuned to the outlook of blue-collar Britain in thinking that Farage is onto something.
While the peg for the Farage sortie was the rumpus over the advice of Allegra Stratton, the Government’s COP26 spokeswoman, that people should not rinse their dishes before putting them in the dishwasher, his singling out of Richmond suggested he believes that two other figures are at the heart of the Tory eco-push.
First there is Zac Goldsmith, formerly the MP for Richmond Park and now an environment minister sitting in the Lords. Then there is Carrie Johnson, who helped him on his London mayoral campaign in 2016 and who will always struggle to shake off the nickname given to her by Dominic Cummings and Lee Cain: ‘Princess Nut Nut’.
And when someone with antennae as sharp as Farage’s picks up distress signals from Middle England, the Tory high command would be wise to ask itself whether it has a problem. The hastening end of petrol cars and plans to rip out gas boilers from domestic properties were two specific aspects he singled out for discussion on his programme. And his key question was how much it was all going to cost.
Those who have been around the political block a time or two may find themselves drawing parallels between the summer of 2021 and the summer of 2007, the last time the Tories were pushing the green agenda this hard.
Back then it almost brought political disaster. Gordon Brown was enjoying a honeymoon with voters as the new PM, especially regarding his handling of the summer floods. David Cameron, by contrast, had gone to Rwanda to knit yurts (or something similar) even as parts of his own constituency were under water.
In the very same week that Brown invited Margaret Thatcher to tea at No. 10, the Conservatives produced the Gummer-Goldsmith quality of life report, ‘Blueprint for a Green Economy’.
After several high-minded passages that bemoaned Britain’s fixation with increasing its per capita GDP (and remember that both the authors were multi-millionaires), the report put forward the following immortal sentence: ‘In other words: beyond a certain point – a point which the UK reached some time ago – ever-increasing material gain can become not a gift but a burden.’
So as Brown was pondering calling a snap election and busily wooing Thatcherite Tories, the Conservatives were in return making their main economic attack line against Labour that it had made the country too well off.
Fortunately for the blue team, the hard-boiled and later disgraced Fleet Street hack Andy Coulson had just arrived to take charge of their media operation and he immediately moved to shut down this idiocy from the felt-loafered tendency. George Osborne spoke out about the dangers of ‘uber-modernisation’ in the party. Shortly afterwards Osborne unveiled a pledge for a massive uplift in the inheritance tax threshold, which was greeted with joy by homeowners and powered the Tory poll rating upwards. Brown then bottled the election and disaster was averted.
Some 14 years on there is no doubt that ecological concerns have risen-up most people’s agendas. Many more of us see global warming as a serious danger and are prepared to make some sacrifices to help save the planet. But the Conservatives still need to be aware that, as RA Butler once put it, politics is the ‘art of the possible’.
The posh eco-fundamentalists within Tory circles are fabulously well-connected and always adept at climbing the party hierarchy. Hardnosed pragmatists drawn from the lower middle-classes are sometimes in shorter supply at the most rarefied levels of Tory administrations.
Yet the events of that dangerous summer of 2007 remind us that they are just as important to the party’s core mission of holding power. The Conservatives could do with getting someone in who knows how to fend off Farage.
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https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-danger-of-boris-johnson-s-eco-obsession
I don’t believe it will be boilers etc., it will be electric cars, when all those without easy and secure access to charging points suddenly realise that they will be without viable transport.
336064+ up ticks,
Is there any hint yet of these political overseers obliging with the crossing fee ?
UK HOME OFFICE BLOCK-BOOKING HOTELS FOR MIGRANT YOUTHS AS CHANNEL CROSSINGS SURGE
I assume you meant to add the Bbart link to your comment?
336064+ up ticks,
Evening W,
I did yes, thanks.
336064+ up ticks,
May one ask,
Are any governing overseers going to give the DOVER potential multi variant carrying plague arriving daily a very serious coating of acknowledging
and looking at,or explain their real agenda as in, are these current
overseers building a force via DOVER to be used as a kapo
battalion ?
Some hope, our navy is in the China Sea trying to annoy the Chinese. Gawd forbid they are tasked against Iran, just as well that we dont have too many F35s on the carrier yet. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/07/31/israel-tells-uk-respond-severely-iranian-attack-killed-british/
336064+ up ticks,
And so it begins, an experimental vaccine on the test bed of kids we will be suffering shortly from the Josef mengele variant.
breitbart,
Bring In the Kids: European City Targets Youths for Jabs
Make the kids infertile? Wouldn’t be found for years.
Test it on the ‘child’ invaders first. If it makes them infertile or bumps them off, win-win!
Why do you think that muslims are anti-vaxxers?
Good afternoon, dear Nottlers! (I say dear, because to me we feel like a community on a raft, in a sea of troubles…) From Unherd (good BTL comments, as usual, too):
The walls are going up across Europe
The EU is preparing for a militarised war on immigration
BY ARIS ROUSSINOS
There is an irony to be discerned in the European Union’s adoption of a series of fantasy bridges as a unifying symbol on its Euro banknotes: in reality, it is walls that are going up across the continent’s eastern approaches, as European politicians brace themselves for the flow of refugees about to make the trek from Afghanistan. After 20 failed years of war, the American pullout from Afghanistan will probably see the Taliban controlling more of the country than it did on 9/11, including the former anti-Taliban heartlands of the Northern Alliance. With a median age of 18.4 — more than 40% of the country’s 30 million population is less than 14 years old — most Afghans have lived their entire lives underneath Washington’s imperial umbrella.
The country’s Westernised middle classes, centred on Kabul, and ethnic and religious minorities like the Shia Hazara, who played a central role in the 2015 migrant crisis, are unlikely to try their chances under Taliban rule, as long as the door to Europe remains open. Already, Afghans make up 42% of the refugees and migrants living in squalid conditions on Greece’s eastern island camps, perhaps an even larger proportion than they did in 2015 when the large presence of Afghan Hazaras was dramatically underreported in the West, distracted by the Syria crisis, despite Afghans constituting a major portion of the migratory flow, including 2/3rds of Sweden’s 2015 arrivals.
But in any case, the Europe of 2021 is not the Europe of 2015, and Europe’s leaders have no appetite for a return of the political turmoil that followed Merkel’s experiment with open borders. Distracted by Brexit and imported American culture wars, Britain’s remaining pro-EU contingent have neglected to follow the developing consensus on the continent, where the hard line on migration for which Viktor Orbán was lambasted by liberal commentators back in 2015 has now entered the political mainstream.
When asked whether Germany had a duty to open the country’s doors to Afghan migration, even Merkel herself recently responded that “we cannot solve all of these problems by taking everyone in”. Instead she encouraged, rather unrealistically, a dialogue with the Taliban so “that people can live as peacefully as possible in the country”. In neighbouring Austria, Chancellor Kurz’s centre-right/Green coalition has responded to the surge in arrivals on its eastern borders with the deployment of the army and angry protests that European migration policy has “failed”, with the country’s Interior Minister Karl Nehammer complaining that “we have one of the biggest Afghan communities in the whole of Europe,” and that “it cannot be the case that Austria and Germany are solving the Afghanistan problem for the EU.”
The Austrian government has decisively swung towards the Central European approach of hardened borders and expedited returns to countries of origin, with Kurz stressing that he would not halt deportations to Afghanistan, as Sweden and Finland already have, a reflection of a public mood darkened by recent high-profile crimes carried out by Afghan asylum seekers. Like centre-left Denmark, which is accelerating both its return of refugees to Syria and the search, apparently along with the UK, of third-party countries in Africa willing to host refugees and migrants on its behalf, the new mood in Austria is not the result of the populist Right coming to power, but instead of centrist parties adopting solutions that were in 2015 considered the sole preserve of the radical Right.
As in Spain, where the next government is likely to be a coalition between the centre-right PP and the radical right Vox, in Italy a coalition government between the centre-Right and the far-Right looms in the wings. Indeed, Salvini’s Lega is now so outflanked on its Right by the rising power of Georgia Meloni’s post-fascist Brothers of Italy party, the most popular political party in the country, that it can be considered centre-Right itself, so far has the country’s Overton Window shifted. In France, where Macron has angrily rejected an imported American racial culture war in favour of the country’s homegrown culture war over Islam and the possibility of civil war, the soi-disant liberal saviour from the perceived populist menace has moved so far to the Right that the roughly even chances of a Le Pen victory in the forthcoming presidential election seem almost irrelevant in defining the country’s political trajectory.
Perhaps it is Greece that highlights best not just the shifting mood in Europe’s external border states, but the shifting mood in Brussels itself. When Erdogan opened Turkey’s land borders with Greece in spring last year, bussing migrants to the border fences in a confrontation that came uncomfortably close to war, Greece’s militarised response unexpectedly won applause rather than censure from the EU hierarchy, as well as the swift dispatch of both Frontex border guards and funds to build an impassable border wall, now being beefed up with EU surveillance zeppelins and drones. Rather than a rerun of the 2015 migrant crisis, when Europe functioned as a ready source of monetary tribute to an embattled Erdogan, last year’s Evros crisis functioned as a dry run for the coming Afghan wave.
After all, when Belarus’s autocrat Lukashenko began funnelling migrants to the Lithuanian border a few weeks ago, Frontex immediately responded with the deployment of border guards, and support for Lithuania’s planned new 550-km border wall — with Estonia even donating 100km of barbed wire to its struggling ally. Once again, the exact same fortification project Orbán was condemned for in 2015 was hurriedly paid for by the EU in 2020, and presented as a heartening symbol of EU solidarity by 2021. From the Baltic to the Aegean, walls are going up across the eastern marches of the European continent, which will soon define the bloc against the huddling masses straining to get in. Even in Turkey, where the secular opposition CHP party has accelerated its demands to return the country’s three million Syrian refugees within two years and made alarmed noises about the increasing flow of Afghan migrants across the Iranian border, the ruling AKP party is constructing concrete border walls to stem the flow from Afghanistan, just as it has constructed a concrete wall all along its borders with Syria, and deploys lethal force against Syrians trying to sneak through.
Turkey has become, indeed, the archetype of Europe’s new border guard states, the model for what will no doubt become a ring of authoritarian states bordering the continent’s southern and eastern fringes, whose rulers will be lavishly bribed to keep migrants and refugees from landing on European shores, a relationship somewhere between clients and blackmailers. Like Erdogan, who quickly learned to deploy migrants as a weapon against Europe whenever he was under pressure, Lukashenko has learned the value of Europe’s desire to keep migrants away while not actively being seen to dirty its own hands with the rough business of border management.
The Moroccan government was equally quick to learn this lesson, recently waving through thousands of migrants to Spain’s North African foothold of Ceuta after the Spanish government granted asylum to a Western Saharan leader, and receiving a handsome bribe to take them back again. Meanwhile, Europe’s only interest in Libya is which faction can most effectively police migrants, just as its only interest in Tunisia’s ongoing coup will be the maintenance of this summer’s border policing deal. Despite the difficulties raised by American financial sanctions, the EU even appears to be eyeing up Iran as one of the potential host nations for the coming Afghan exodus, a dynamic which, if it takes effect, will surely dramatically affect all other aspects of its difficult diplomatic dance with the country.
So while handing responsibility for keeping migrants out of Europe to regional states may be domestically easier for EU leaders, particularly those from Northwestern and Nordic countries with Green-tinged parties ideologically committed to pro-migration policies, it also offers neighbouring nations handy weapons to deploy against the bloc for their own geopolitical purposes. The great difficulty for European politics is how to balance these opposing tendencies: it is difficult to think, given the steady rightward drift of European politics, that an Open Borders attitude will win out against the simpler solution of a hands-on European effort to prevent migrants entering the EU.
The expansion of the EU’s Frontex border agency into a 10,000 strong armed rapid deployment force indicates the direction of travel. Indeed, we are already seeing early manifestations of this approach, both in the pushbacks of migrants in the Aegean by the Greek coastguard with Frontex support, and in the growing legal restrictions on the activity of Western European NGO boats blamed for accelerating the migrant flow. Both were placed with the quiet acquiescence of Brussels, despite the protests of Northern European Green parties.
All this is, of course, a dry run for the almost certainly militarised and exclusionary border policing efforts that will grapple with the vast population movements from Africa and South Asia that will attend the coming decades of climate change. Already, Bangladeshis are the largest single national group making the dangerous crossing from North Africa, and it is not difficult to see a desertifying Sahel or collapsing Lebanon adding new sudden crises for European leaders torn between their desire to maintain allegiance to postwar liberal ideals on asylum and the increasing desire of their voting publics to reject them. The avowedly open, cosmopolitan Europe of the 1990s and 2000s is already dead, and even the lame duck Merkel and her ailing CDU party have abandoned the Wir schaffen das attitude of 2015 in the face of the coming wave.
The British debate over the Nationality and Borders Bill, insular and self-regarding as all British political debate somehow manages to be, therefore ignores this rapidly shifting European context. In some ways, this must be a relief to a Conservative government that has shown itself incapable of satisfying its core voter base’s demands to stem the flow of irregular migration across the Channel: without any action by the UK itself, the EU will find itself drawn towards a Fortress Europe approach that will, eventually, choke the flow arriving on Kent’s shingle beaches.
Just as France’s Interior Minister Gerald Darmanin demands a Frontex deployment with aerial surveillance assets along the Channel coast, Priti Patel’s border woes will be solved by European leaders without meaningful British input other than funding analogous to the tribute the EU hands in desperation to Erdogan. The walls are going up across Europe: we will not see them coming down again in our lifetimes.
https://unherd.com/2021/07/the-walls-are-going-up-across-europe/?tl_inbound=1&tl_groups%5B0%5D=18743&tl_period_type=3&mc_cid=2c40699cd8&mc_eid=84173eaa79
Edit: my take is that it too late for us in the UK. The wreckers are already in the EU, waiting to come here. France is completely complicit. Our various governments have wanted, and want it. Otherwise, why the benefits and luxury accommodation (let alone RNLI etc. escorts) that the hoards coming in illegally are given. Which we are paying for – yet we can’t see a doctor, our indigenous homeless can’t get accommodation…etc. etc.
UK has an excellent solution now.
Pay the Austrians, Hungarians etc a fee for processing all migrants in Austria, Hungary etc.
It would be a damned sight more cost effective than paying the French to allow them to cross the channel.
Ship them from the coast to Manston and then by plane straight out for processing.
Better if processing was only done on the Falklands – on xmas day, when xmas day fell on thursdays, with a full moon and only between 3 am and 4am. with a wind speed of 80mph.
Few direct flights for getting them there, but I’m sure they might be put off coming if they knew that would be the outcome.
Afternoon Sos. If we were to stop the escorts to shore, stop handing out free homes, free healthcare, free pocket money and all the other freebies to these hostile stone-age ‘people’, and stop the almost guaranteed ‘right-to-remain’ nonsense, that might concentrate a few minds too. They know that once they have landed here, having destroyed all documents of course, there is minimal risk of ever being sent back. We need to deploy sound patrols in the Channel too – repel all invaders.
The truth of the matter is that it isn’t going to stop unless the UK and other places in similar situations facing sea borne invasions state that they don’t care if there are drownings and sink them.
And I can’t ever see that happening.
Why inflict the the poor Falkland Islanders, they have already been invaded by foreigners. Aren’t there any Scilly Isles big enough to put them on and then ship them from there? I would suggest a bleak windswept Scottish Isle but we would never hear the end of it form First Monster Cranky and more of her is best avoided for the sanity of the nation.
Addendum. Typed in uninhabited Scilly Islands and found this: “Some of the uninhabited islands once supported small communities; if you visit Tean or St. Helen’s, for example, you will discover the remains of early Christian chapels. The island of Samson, next to Bryher, was home to several farmers and fishermen until the mid-1800s. The haunting remains of granite houses, barns and boatsheds remind us of these more recent times.” And look, there are some ruined Christian chapels they can desecrate to their hearts content in the name of Islam while they are hanging out there.
You already gave us anthrax, thanks.
Who gave us Anthrax, the Scots?
The UK government took over Gruinard island and infected it with anthrax as a military trial.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gruinard_Island
Well then that’s a good spot to put them. Certainly stop them from coming across the channel!
As suggested by a window cleaner in North London several years ago, indirectly quoted in The Spectator:
“take them in a helicopter to a remote Scottish island; drop them off/out then the survivors could eat the non-survivors.”
I was so shocked that I still remember the idea.
The power of islam is something that our gov should take note but will not. Islamic attacks are often dismissed as being done by a few extremists and those who hold a distorted view of islam. Odd that these few activists can over run a western backed government resourced by the US. Not exactly a few nutters then. Similar with ISIS who controlled a vast area and, of course, the National Socialists in Germany, a few years back, who did the same. Islam is a growing political force and as a result of its teachings is able to command extreme loyalty from its followers. If the teachings fail then terror usually works.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/018ca91d3fd0500737fddc3b77b5a62ace737768d53006a16a1216b1c3ff1e86.jpg
The technical term is ‘observant muslim’.
I work with two Turkish engineers, and let me tell you, they are utterly fed up with the millions of refugees in their country. I get the impression that they would rather that Turkey was for the Turks.
That’s why there are so many Turks in Europe, then?
Erdogan thinks Europe is part of the Ottoman Empire!
…or ought to be…
He wanted to come to Germany to give a campaign speech before the last Turkish elections. Raised a few eyebrows in Germany. He thinks it already is!
Voting for Christmas, next.
Full speed irony at work.
Treated Dolly and myself to a day at the beach. Very nice. Very civilised. I was sitting on the terrace sipping a G&T when two couples turned up and stood waiting to be shown to their seats. All were masked and all had their phones in their hands. One by one they scanned the QR code. I couldn’t help myself…I just burst out laughing at the idiocy. They seemed quite put out. They were middle aged. You would think they would know better.
When I went for lunch at Côte with a friend on Thursday we had masks with us, but forgot to put them on to enter the place.
Cor, talk about laugh!
But seriously, there was hand sanitiser available but absolutely no ‘check-in’ procedure.
When I went to Cote last Monday the signing in screen seemed to have disappeared – there was one last month, which I ignored. The previous month at a Greek restaurant I just waved my phone at it but it was switched off and I have never downloaded the app.
Well done Phil, glad you had a nice day at the beach. We drove down to Littlehampton last Sunday and it absolutely hammered it down. But we had a great time – dodging the rain!
Do you think the two couples realised you were laughing at them? I do hope so. We’ve been out to eat a couple of times in the last week, including yesterday for Alf’s birthday, and ignored the QR code and written records of tel. No. etc. As we have done all along. And no masks – ever. Just can’t understand sheeple meekly complying with all this rubbish. They’ve obviously never thought about researching things or, God forbid, noncompliance. Fat chance of a Revolution!
Clearly loved by the govt Fear and Control group.
I think they realised. I’m not normally rude to people it just happened naturally.
I’ve ignored the signing in bit all the way through, but I did comply with masks until I decidef I’d had enough. Nobody challenged me when I went shopping, so I wished I’d taken that step sooner than I did.
Just back from getting my haircut for the first time since Apr 2020; two girls cutting hair and two other customers masked up. I showed my phone’s screensaver (downloaded from the gov.uk website) that states ‘I am exempt from wearing a mask’.
The girl who greeted me but was not cutting my hair, muttered something about having to show it to her colleague. Thankfully her colleague (whom I know as a nodding acquaintance) cared not a jot.
During my haircut she mentioned that the first girl had closed the shop for over a week when she was found positive for the Kung Flu. Ironically, the sicko is the only one of the eight employees there who has been ‘vaxxed’.
My barber (gorgeous 42 yr old blonde English woman ) took my name and phone number after1st lockdown – – not bothered since – even tells me to take the mask off – up to me.
I’d be more impressed if the gorgeous 42 yr old blonde English woman gave you her name and phone number…
};-O
She gave me her business card with both on. She is married with 2 kids though – and likes to go walking in the countryside – something I think is dangerous for someone who looks that good – all it needs is a car full of the migrants.
Aha, you’ve got your alibi in place…
With my back problems she’d only have to walk a bit faster.
She’s probably run out of post-it papers.
I haven’t been to a barber since 2019. I’ve invested in Remington clippers, and DIY. The only downside is that I’m not about to carry out the Turkish nose and ear hair method…
Small Zippo lighters can be purchased for as little as 12 quid. 😉
Dip a cotton bud in a mix of mostly meths and water (burns cooler), light it, and twirl in the appropriate orifice.
Well, of course, one could adopt a safe approach but whatever happened to live for today?
Had mine cut a couple of weeks ago, but before masks became optional. I complied until June, when I decided I’d had enough of the damn things. Nobody bothered that I didn’t wear one at the hairdressers and I was the only unmasked shopper for a few weeks but yesterday i noticed that several of the staff were maskless and also one or two shoppers.
G&T …… as we stood in the rat-run leading to the Dunelm tills, I yearned for a G&T.
That would have been preferable to what I saw last time in our store. Heading through the narrow aisle I was aware of someone trying to get past – who then dived into the aisle on my right. Glancing to see who was in such a rush I got a perfect profile of a young overweight male? with false eyelashes and heavy full face of make up. Every hurried step gave an upward ripple of his blubber that made me want to laugh. God – what has this place come to?
The report in the DT by investigative reporters reveals that the NHS made secret plans to fail to treat residents 70 and over in care homes to avoid the NHS hospitals being overwhelmed.. Care homes were to be encouraged to issue DNR orders for the elderly sick patients and in hospitals end of life care was to be given to the elderly rather than proper treatment for their complaints. It looks as if the NHS adopted these plans in at least some care homes during the pandemic.
I wonder what plans the NHS has for the aftermath. I recommend that we coffin dodgers keep dodging as we will be back of the queue if we need hospitalisation.
No comments allowed on the article. Dominic Cummings was correct when he said patients were left to die.
The govt needs loads of houses for the flood of replacements, Get rid of us – and in they move.
Being realistic, I realised that these conversations would have to take place.
It rather brings us back to MB’s experience; because we are still stroppy, he is still alive.
His cardiac nurse was unimpressed; she has told him to contact her directly in future.
Do you have a link?
I found it on the News section of the online DT but I don’t know how to bring it on here. No names for the reporters, just that they are Investigative Reporters. The plans were drawn up after the Pandemic conference that the NHS had in 2016. Richard Sk has come to my rescue.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/30/nhs-made-secret-pandemic-plan-deny-care-elderly/
I find it somewhat hypocritical. They can kill you but you may not choose to terminate your own life if very ill. Am I the only one that sees a serious contradiction here?
As a woman you can also ask for them to kill a fully viable child in the womb.
For no reason at all, and then repeat…
especially female foetuses
True but dreadful.
Before covid, they were clearly working up to allowing euthanasia, and it was clear to me that far from being the comfortable choice that many seemed to imagine, it would rapidly become the preferred way to deal with all those expensive old coffin-dodgers.
“My life in unbearable, I am in such pain”
“Here’s a euthanasia form”
“But if I had my operation, I would live ten more years”
“Sorry, no money for that. You’re occupying a house that’s needed for a young family, and you aren’t contributing to the NHS any more. Sign here of your own free will.”
The mainstream media was running a steady dripfeed of articles about people suffering from hideous conditions and begging for the right to die, and they were censoring the comments underneath, so nobody could point out that it was one-sided propaganda.
Lately, they seem to have stopped this particular campaign.
You are not alone.
Or was it so that they could inflate the number of deaths to pretend that covid was killing more people than it really was?
That would certainly be murder.
It is murder. Banning HCL and Ivermectin was done in the full knowledge that people would die who would otherwise have lived. We don’t know what was done with the excess supplies of that drug that was said to have been ordered for old people’s homes.
That and the effect of Midazolem. No wonder they shuffled Hancock off pretty smartish stage left.
Ah, I was typing just that and you beat me to it ‘cause I looked up the spelling of Midazolam!
A nurse told me directly that someone she actually knew had died of a heart attack – but it was put on his DC as covid.
Just days before the months old photo of naughty Hancock was released, it had come light that last spring he ordered a couple of years worth of Midazolam, a sedative that was issued to the care homes and used up completely within months.
Copies of paperwork purporting to prove this were circulated on social media. It may or may not be true. I wouldn’t know where to look for the evidence and the photo release conveniently buried the story.
Yes I remember that.
Heck. My shoes are full of feet.
We’ve spent the afternoon trekking (and driving) around to find a new bathroom blind and packets of filo pastry.
From my observations, I’m wondering of Sainsbury’s have problems; whether they’ve been over conscientious on the pingdemic or there are money problems, I’m not sure.
Even allowing for the fact that they closed their fish and deli counters a good while ago, there were some very empty shelves and cabinets.
Anyway, put your hands together for ASDA; they had filo packets ++. I will now revert to the old Soviet shopping system and stock up whenever I see goods I might need.
We have a new blind, but I doubt either of us has the oomph to put it up today. Tonight, we will probably go for crack den chic – drape a sheet over the window and start afresh tomorrow.
Afternoon Anne. Food stockpiles are essential in the present situation!
I’m quietly working on it, Minty…
I was somewhat startled to arrive home from work one summer’s evening many years ago to see that the elder of our teenage sons had got hold of a long handled sweeping brush and a duvet sans cover and draped it against the window, the upstairs window facing down the length of the green, with the handle of the brush propping it up. He couldn’t see the screen of the computer because the sun was shining directly onto it, we were ‘between curtains’. I raced up the stairs admonishing “for heaven’s sake E**, get that duvet down we look like a crackhouse!”
🙂
Err, how did you know what a crackhouse looked like?
Good question. It looked like something from derelict Leeds that I used to travel through once upon a time.
The absence of products on supermarket shelves hasn’t passed me by. Last Saturday, my trusty milkman failed to turn up. Prolly pinged. So I arranged a Waitrose delivery, which included six litres of UHT milk (which I hate, but needs must). I’ve quietly increased my stock of bread flour, yeast and cereal (Mornflake Jumbo Scottish Oats, since you ask). I can prolly get to Christmas without starving.
You hoarder, you!
Wotevah…
I’ve always got about 6 months worth of strong white, 00, wholemeal and spelt flour in the house.
Fixing a blind requires good eyesight…(boom boom (again)…)
Seriously – wait until you are feeling very, very strong and both your blood pressures are nice and low.
Hmmm…. 🙄
Logging out to prevent hacking of this very non-conformist site. I’ll call again later NoTTLers – keep safe.
Boris has been busy. His wife is expecting a baby after an earlier miscarriage.
Why doesn’t he just stop her? – Oh I forgot, he can’t stop either her from sprogging or himself from shagging. What a set!
Topping her – while an attractive prospect – is prolly a step too far…{:¬))
Not with a bargepole. Not even with your bargepole… :-((
He said ‘topping’, not tupping.
Why doesn’t he just stop her? – Oh I forgot, he can’t stop either her from sprogging or himself from shagging. What a set!
God Almighty – yet ANOTHER addition to the appalling Johnson clan.
More maintenance to be paid, that Boris will have to “earn” from his masters.
Turkish fires sweeping through tourist areas are the hottest on record. 31 july 2021.
The heat intensity of wildfires in Turkey on Thursday was four times higher than anything on record for the nation, according to satellite data passed on to the Guardian.
Fire got hotter? Has anyone told Ray Bradbury or is his book now called Fahrenheit 497 and Climbing?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/30/turkish-fires-sweeping-through-tourist-areas-are-the-hottest-on-record
Not being pedantic but the title relates to the temperature paper spontaneously ignites. Forest fires can get a lot hotter.
I was witness to the Oakland Hills Firestorm in 1999 the temperatures in that was so hot it ignited tarmac, the heat was so intense that it caused fires ahead of it by the temperatures it was producing. Brick and metal turned to ash. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NseOhUqZAh0
The burning bush?
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bc186c03ea6ce90f59fda4de455f8f84514ed4239dd1653553ef924d2e7d9e38.gif
Once ignited they can get out of control!
That’s a bit tame. I mean, I’ve seen flames leap a coupla feet
Those events are always best viewed from a distance.
Indeed they are. The fire reached a block away from where I lived and it was frightening to say the least.
We had a small forest fire here.
It was stopped less than 100 feet from our property.
Loads more Turkish barbers on their way.
At least they know how to deal with nose and ear hair… 🙄
Ouch!
I’ve experienced 43°C heat in Antalya region. I suspect the problem is – like everywhere else on the planet – they haven’t been burning off the forest scrub…
55C, in north Kuwait, by the Iraq border.
That was a warm day to be outside inspecting oilfield equipment.
40 C on the Dolphin Project, Ras Laffan in Qatar. Suffocating. We tried to get the commissioning work done by 11 AM.
Farenbyte 451 – the digital version.
Just found this on instagram – it’s from the 31st July London demo against vaccinating children. Ray Tang is a professional photographer.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bd07ffd6bc95dea4a47ea33503bedbd043b5e7477c6c0cb0c8634ac3d40d2646.jpg
Seems a court has rejected the proposal for a tunnel under Stonehenge.
Frankly, I’d prefer it if they just dualled the existing A303. Shoving it into a tunnel denies the users of that road (me included) the sight of the monument. Besides, I was usually looking the other way, at the pigs – which seem to have gone. Perhaps Billy Gates has bought the field?
Slammers must have bought the field.
Good point, BT…
Like the jewish corrupt Lady Porter buying up Christian graveyard/s and selling them to developers?
CAPE TOWN
PENALTY POLLARD! South Africa 3-0 British and Irish Lions
Just like last week, the Boks strike first. Easy strike from the No 10.
PENALTY BIGGAR! South Africa 3-3 British and Irish Lions
Quickly taken and he’s not missing that one. We’re level again.
12 mins – South Africa 3-3 British and Irish Lions
Good restart work from the Boks to win the ball back and now they’re on the attack, Kolbe with a dart out wide into the Lions 22.
Up to 10 phases, can the Boks strike. It’s a bit loose, rush defence coming up hard by the Lions. Am grubbers, fielded by Biggar and the Lions get a needed penalty for not releasing against Mapimpi.
Got to stress, the physicality is unreal.
PENALTY BIGGAR! South Africa 3-6 British and Irish Lions
Two out of two for the Lions No 10.
24 mins – South Africa 3-6 British and Irish Lions
Boks looking wide, loose pass, Van der Merwe sticks out his leg looking to hack the ball on, I think, but he connects with Kolbe. Foul play being checked in case he tripped Kolbe, which would be yellow. Looks pretty clear, it’s not near the ball. That’s an easy yellow. Yellow card – Lions down to 14 men.
PENALTY POLLARD! South Africa 6-6 British and Irish Lions
Cracking strike by Pollard from that angle. We’re level again. Lions a minute away from getting Van der Merwe back.
HALF-TIME: South Africa 6-9 British and Irish Lions
Both teams back to 15 players now. Good shove by Furlong on the tighthead side but the scrum resets.
Just realised this first half has lasted over an hour. Hope you didn’t have any plans later.
Better from the Boks, De Allende into Biggar. Clock goes red and De Klerk dinks it into touch. And that’s half-time!
Why the F**K doesn’t The British Broadcasting Corporation bother to broadcast the British and Irish Lions test matches?
They can’t afford to put in a decent bid once they’ve paid Lineker and the fellow lefties at all levels of the BBC.
Audio is available on Freeview 723.
Thank you, Citroen1; I never knew about Freeview 723 ’till now!
For the uninitiated, Freeview 723 is TalkSport…
HAPPY HOUR – Enjoy….. my first sherry today Nottlers…!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndUCNnhH03Q
Miming. Studio recording. Anyway, why isn’t he wearing a mask?
That’s an easy one:
No Pan demic if you blow into his flute
Ask me another.
Suck it and see?
If you really must.
Chill, as my psychiatrist tells me….
…as he hands you a bottle of fino sherry.
He’s got me sussed….!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0lPwi3r7bM
Time for me to go. A better day than expected. The promised rain never came. A lot of garden work done. Time for a little dose of medicine.
I wonder when the “government” will announce a wide-ranging “revision” of the figures for all the covid “deaths”….
A demain.
On the 12th of never.
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/stew-peters-with-karen-kingston-former-pfizer-employee-confirms-poison-in-covid-039-kill-shot-0_hIqbuGhAqjvFaqQ.html
Not sure if anyone has posted this yet.
It’s confirmation from a second source, of the presence of graphene in the covid jabs.
The first claim if you remember, came from a group of Spanish scientists who had analysed the Pfizer vaxx.
This is from another patent analyst in the US, who has followed the manufacturer of lipids mentioned in patents, and discovered that they are made by a Chinese company, and if I understood it correctly, the shell of the nano-particles is made of graphene.
The interviewer, Stew Peters, is rather political, and constantly tries to get Karen Kingston to give opinions and speculate, but at the heart of her testimony is the above analysis.
I’ve seen that video. Very credible.
I was looking forward to Japan – BBC2 5.30pm.
Sue Perkins is a turn off…
You’ve got my fav Pride and Prejudice movie – with Donald Sutherland as Mr Bennet, sweetie ! … x
Pride and Prejudice…. I’ve nearly forgotten the words sweetie…x
6:23pm
TRY MAPIMPI! South Africa 11-9 British and Irish Lions
Boks try the maul, moving well, Mbonambi at the tail. Comes to a stop at the Lions 22. Bomb from Pollard, Hogg can’t take it, ball bounces to De Allende, Kolisi carries up.
Watson’s come in, Pollard with the chip wide, Mapimpi! Catches, cuts inside to score! Magnificent try. The Boks lead! Pollard with the conversion from wide left… and he misses to the left! How crucial might that be?
46 mins – South Africa 11-9 British and Irish Lions
…but, Wiese knocks on from the restart. Scrum for the Lions deep in South Africa’s half.
Pollard’s missed five points worth of kicks now. In games like these, that feels big.
51 mins – South Africa 11-9 British and Irish Lions
Biggar hits the left upright! It bounces back infield and the Boks clear. Blimey. Lineout for the Lions on halfway.
Second half wan’t that entertaining
Wellscrolling through Nottl has been ruined for me today. I was hoping to watch the Lions highlights later but Citroën has been posting the scores and a running commentary.
Could you use the spoiler function next week Citroen?
Just kneel, pet…!
I hate it when people do that.
Spikey used to feel the same about creekit.
Applies to F1 for those who can’t afford SKY.
Exacto.
I’ve also written to the DT to ask them to stop putting results in the headlines of articles on the website.
There are plenty of people who can afford SKY but choose not to give their money to Robert Murdoch.
336064+ up ticks,
Well worth the licence fee……. they most certainly ain’t,
https://twitter.com/DarrenPlymouth/status/1421474526290907143
NHS Nurses Demand To COVID Test Newborn Baby, Claim It’s Not Mother’s Property Once Outside Of Womb
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/watch-nhs-nurses-demand-covid-test-newborn-baby-claim-its-not-mothers-property-once?utm_campaign=&utm_content=Zerohedge%3A+The+Durden+Dispatch&utm_medium=email&utm_source=zh_newsletter
Video is a little down the page. Really shocking!
Hi Jonathan take what you read on Zerohedge with a pinch of salt as it is full of conspiracy theory stories & a number of the Nazis who were banned on Disqus channels post on there so I consider it a dubious source of info just like the Guardian & the BBC except that its on the far right of the political spectrum .
OK. Thank you for that warning. It is one of those things that comes into my email. I guess because I do subscribe to some Conservative sites. Middle East Forum e.g.
Cheers Jonty !
It’s owned by a nazi rat named Daniel Ivandjiiski, who writes under the name of ‘Tyler Durden’. He sees it as his role to promote kremlin-originated anti-Semitic conspiracy bullshit.
Happy Sunday Scradje my friend, thanks for that info, now I understand why a number of the Nazis who were banned on Disqus channels a few years ago turned up on Zerohedge !!
Happy Sunday pudders! A few days ago I replied to your post about “Igor” (Marty Feldman) on the Notlers with another classic Marty sketch. For some strange reason it went into moderation. Anyway, here it is again! :-
https://youtu.be/ZYlOV7K-xOU
Scradje
Scradje Elf & Safety 3 days ago
Marty! I expect you remember this one with Cleese?: –
Happy Sunday pudders! A few days ago I replied to your post about “Igor” (Marty Feldman) on the Notlers with another classic Marty sketch: the one in the bookshop with John Cleese. Cleese’s favourite sketch in fact. For some strange reason it went into moderation. So I sent it you again and it went into ‘pending’ again. Some sort of ban on Marty Feldman sketches?!
Sorry about that but I am not a mod on NTTL but I will ask one of the mods to add you as Trusted User & see if they will fish your posts out of pending.
Sorry about that but I am not a mod on NTTL but I will ask one of the mods to add you as Trusted User & see if they will fish your posts out of pending.
This evening’s cocktail is… a Brenda. A Brenda.
I mean, Gin, Dubonnet, slices of lemon, lotsa ice, all in a tumbler.
I thought that was Brenda’s mother’s tipple.
It was, but by all accounts Brenda likes it too.
A big tumbler?
Oh yes! Wenn schon, denn schon!
The Proms
I’m afraid that the Poulenc organ concerto doesn’t fire me with enthusiasm.
Bach’s Toccata in D minor however is a different matter:
https://youtu.be/-reR7GEk6To
Tonight’s shambles put me in mind of “Friday Night is Music Night”…
Apparently 200 tickets were released for the gallery but friends who are there tell me only a couple of dozen were sold. Covid Status Certification required for entry. Tee hee!
I didn’t think you’d be there, Our Susan.
Or, Bill, the alternative, “Good evening, I’m Henry Hall Junior and tonight is my bath night.“
Is that a covid victim by the pipes?
You can’t go wrong with Bach.
Howlin’ Wolf wasn’t too bad either. I’ll pack my case…
Schwarzenegger
A movie producer is planning his next blockbuster – an action drama about famous composers.
So he sets up a meeting with Sylvester Stallone, Jean-Claude Van Damme and Arnold Schwarzenegger.
During the meeting, he asks them to select which famous composers they’d like to portray.
“I’ve always admired Mozart,” Stallone says. “I’d love to play him.”
“Chopin has always been my favourite,” says Van Damme. “That’s the part for me.”
The producer turns to Schwarzenegger. “And you, Arnold? Who do you want to be? ”
There is a long silence, after which Arnold replies, “I’ll be Bach .”
Transworld Halloween Show.
Is that an updated Rocky Horror Show?
RHPS – -Touring again – and PCness takes over – Ore Oduba plays Brad Majors. God knows what he’ll look like at the end in the full corset stockings heels etc. And hope he can sing.No doubt clips will appear
My best experiences of the RHS were both in Germany.
One was a live performance at he English Theatre in Frankfurt, which I attended with5 friends’
The other was at an open-air cinema showing in Braunschweig. I gave my Polish friend, who spoke no English, sotto voce a running translation in German & every ear within a dozen yards was tuned in.
You should have charged them . . . .
I knew the show toured Europe but never knew if they did it in English or not. What do the songs sound like?
I have never charged for a translation in any language. I’ve had free meals, but never taken money.
It wasn’t a touring show in Frankfurt; it was a local production.
Many years ago a woman I knew said she wanted to see it but her husband flatly refused, so asked me to go with her – not dressed up – -I explained that it got a bit “rude” as she seemed prudish, but she told me she knew all about it and would not be shocked. We went.
5 minutes into the show she was whinging it was nothing like she expected and clearly wanted to go out. 50 mile round trip aaaaaaarrrgh.
I hated “Song & Dance” the first time round when I saw it in London. But later I saw it with a different singer & loved it; it became one of my favourites.
Toccata and FUGUE in D minor.
I’ll make a note of that! 🎵
336064+ up ticks,
The mindset of the current political hierarchy is that whilst the jahadies are here their vote counts,
breitbart,
ANTI-TERROR PROSECUTOR FEARS JIHADISTS AMONG ILLEGAL MIGRANT WAVE
For Gawd’s sake Ogga, get you spelling right – Jihadis. We know what you mean but your illiterate posts cause me to, very often, pass you by.
336064+ up ticks,
Evening NtN,
You deny me my little idiosyncrasies as you do the top man, I see.
Been hearing that Boris has another sprog on the way, what more proof do we need that he never had the double vaxx.
Hmm…???
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/edd293af07efbe0a9ea75d35dcea414d71bdaaeaf19df02489022a6ef25639f3.jpg
Oh, yeah!
Poked it in three times only two wo
rked?That was my reaction – i.e. Ho Yus.
However Stig did explain it very logically. All I have to do is remember what he said!
Did it go something like…. photo call?
That was my reaction – i.e. Ho Yus.
However Stig did explain it very logically. All I have to do is remember what he said!
Was not that famous singer there, Placebo Domingo?
Goodnight all Nottlers I am suffering from constant computer screen freezing on here today, it seems mostly to be affecting my Google Chrome browser which I use for Elf & safety . I have checked that I have lots of free space on my Discs , compressed them, run diagnostics, deleted duplicate files etc all to no avail & only after signing off on my main Sputnik One Disqus account & closing up my Windows Edge browser & my Brave browser has Google Chrome unfroze after being frozen for 20 minutes at a time since this afternoon. I have had to stop posting on my other blogs for a while & need to finish up what I was in the middle of posting, so I am signing off here for today after posting this message & my usual Bedtime music video : Seven Nation Army – Vintage New Orleans Dirge White Stripes Cover ft. Haley Reinhart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB6HY8r983c&list=OLAK5uy_lReS728wXacvz-7GBorsI3t_WW0S8gHag
Good night, Elf. I hope your equipment recovers soonest.
I hope so too !
Screen freezing? Global warming, innit…
Its bloody annoying whatever it is!
Have you been circumscribed? That might be the problem.
I use Disqus & have been circumscribed, circumcised & certified !
I like the one camera shot – everything on the music.
Yes Walter, good music with very little distraction.
Install, Ccleaner, run on ‘Health Check’ follow the instructions and clean up your infected system.
https://www.google.com/search?q=ccleaner+free&oq=ccleaner&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i512j0i131i433i512j0i512l7.5957j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
I have McAfee live safe costing about £100 a year with those do dahs & HP help installed, they report no infections & plenty of spare disc space, I think its Google related as they keep on trying to sell me extra services & wanting me to go exclusively to using their browser & I keep refusing & all of a sudden I get problems using Google Chrome
It is odd I am having the same problems. I ran sfc /scannow repair command, updated all drivers, done the health check on CCleaner and it is still happening. I do wonder if this is happening following a Microsoft update and Billy boy is getting his revenge on sceptical Nottlers?
I am down now to suspecting RAM modules so 1 out at a time to see if that helps. In the past a faulty RAM module caused severe problems. I may have to learn about Linux OS.
I think its Google related as they keep on trying to sell me extra services & wanting me to go exclusively to using their browser & I keep refusing & all of a sudden I get problems using Google Chrome
I suspected Chrome so I deleted it completely off my system and used Firefox, the problem still occurred.
Happy Sunday v v o f . Chrome used to be the best browser but IMO the latest version of Windows Edge is much improved & now better than Chrome. I use Firefox & Brave as back up browsers to WE & Chrome for non-Disqus posting as both are Chrome based & seem to mirror the problems that Chrome now has.
I might try edge then and see if I get any improvement. Thanks for the tip.
336064+ up ticks,
The work of one political super rodent plus a multitude of fools to undo a thousand years of history.
It has taken three decades to come to fruition and it really could be seen in its approach, which is going to make it for those of a decent nature that much harder to rectify
https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/status/1421546836213514242
History has taught the state nothing, mainly because it ignores it to suit their own plans.
336064+ up ticks,
Evening W,
It does seem NOT to have taught the electorate a great deal either.
Evening, all.
You Conners
How are things?
Yo, OLT! Personally, I’m much more relaxed knowing MOH is safe and being cared for, at least for the next fortnight. I feel I’m living, rather than existing, at the moment. I had an extra ride today, which was very enjoyable. I did have to go shopping for a few items, but that’s the first time for a while (compared with virtually every day until recently) and I’ve done one wash in the last week (as opposed to several a day). I shall be running the dishwasher tonight – again, it’s only once as opposed to virtually every day. Pressure is off!
Hi Conway! What a pleasure to be able to do things that you want to do, when you want to do them, without worrying! An oasis of calm! I expect Oscar has noticed the change in you, and the Connemara! I hope you enjoy every minute of it and treat yourself to the odd drop of red!
Hello, Sue. Yes, that is something I’ve really noticed. I went into town to pay some bills yesterday and I didn’t feel the need to rush back. Oscar and I went to a cafe for a drink (cappuccino for me and water for him).
If we were still (geogephically) closer, we would give you help
That’s very kind, OLT. I am lucky inasmuch as I do have friends locally who can offer help when it’s needed.
Brothers?
Some of them.
#WeToo – unfortunately, Suffolk is a bit far from the Welsh Marches but, if needed, call, help, Connors.
We have a dog, no pony but a heart full of help.
KBO, old troop, we’re all gunning for you and wish you, your OH and Oscar, all the best luck in the world and the hope that persistence will see you all through this shit-storm.
We have everything crossed for you.
Thank you, Tom.
We are family, Connors – no problems.
One down, one to go.
It’s a pity she celebrated.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9846117/McLaughlin-Muhammad-pass-easily-1st-round-hurdles.html
The sooner flo-jo-bag’s are gone the better.
Bah, next year a trans mentalist will compete as a ‘woman’ and smash the record so no woman can ever match it ever again.
I’m waiting for someone to state that all passengers on the Trans-Pennine Express have got to be . . . . . . . .
https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1421539786360246276
‘Evening, Neil, I too am a Covid Rat, valuing my/our freedom above all else.
I married in 1965 and produced 2 daughters ( I think). The eldest, and the one closest to me in thought, ideals and ambition, currently farms in Tasmania with the objective of being able to produce food and teach her children the value of self-sufficiency.
The youngest was, unfortunately, trained to be a teacher of PE and English in England in the 80s. She has progressed to become one of many deputy head-teachers in her school and, I suspect, has been inveigled into the ‘Common Purpose’ cult, which is unfortunate, not only for the pupils she may indoctrinate but also for my two Grand-children, who, I surmise, have been inculcated with this lefty mantra and will now continue to spread this ‘Woke’ nonsense.
God help us, our children, Grand-children and descendants – a long, long line that goes back to 530 AD.
You may understand why I despair.
‘Night All
I wonder how many other areas are doing this??
“Door to door knocking of peoples homes, asking residents if they had
been vaccinated and if they havent then enter a scripted conversation
with them to encourage them to get vaccinated and visit the local
vaccination centre Marshalling Mobile vaccination sites Currently we are
looking for people to conduct Vaccination engagement roles in the
Brighton area
As one of the leading companies in United Kingdom,
Unitemps offers variety of opportunities for employees to grow and make
them as future leaders of the professional and disciplined. Unitemps
also offers a dynamic work environment in order to encourage employees
to give optimally, and at the same time, you are able to learn new
skills and erudition through the company programs.”
https://uk.infreshjobs.com/job-detail/9317c93e28a05c80/covid-engagement-assistants-job-openings-unitemps-brighton-hove
Because for £10 an hour you wouldn’t want to meet me……
“Get the fuck off my doorstep before I stab you in the face”
MoH says I have a look that can turn people to stone – workmates said similar,Once had a scammer come to the door claiming the roof needed work . He backed away across the lawn !!!!!!
Hmm, in the Brighton area eh?
…and the question is, “Have you recently had someone jab you – with or without a condom/dildo or any other blunt instrument?
Oooh, ducky, I’ll call back later – you little bitch!
Night NoTTlers …it’s been one hell of a day!
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Only one stocking top showing???? and the waist/hip ratio looks odd.
Try Specsavers
Walter are you suggesting I’m a bloke….!
Dahling, I shall be around at the crack of Dawn – and what a helluva gal, she was!
I could play, pop with that – just wishing.
Nite Plum Gurl
Comment just spotted on a Speccie thread on FB…
“I carry a bell and have a sign around my neck saying unclean, it works just as well as the vaccine”.
Very wise. Check this out Sue.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ru1LgeeTkZBI/
Good night all.
Nite Peddy
I’ve been thinking on those lines as well, OLT.
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23:36. Goodnight one and all in this vast family of NoTTLers,
God bless and we shall meet again on tomorrow’s sacred Sunday.
Good night, Tom, and all on this site. See you all next month.
Sunday 1st August 2021
DATZ
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And Very Many More Good Years of Nottling!
With best wishes,
Caroline and Rastus
Goodnight, all. A pinch and a punch for the first of the month and a very happy birthday to Datz.
I am rather tired of stating the obvious but here goes.
The response to the virus, viz. Covid – Sars- 2 is out of all proportion to the perceived threat. This virus, if actually identified as a novel virus, is a common cold virus and a bit more infectious than earlier versions. Subsequent mutations will be more infectious but with lesser implications for human health.
We have been sold a pup in that this sort of virus will normally work its way through a population until herd immunity is achieved without medical intervention. We have no vaccine for the common cold so why should anyone suppose that we have miraculously found a vaccination for the latest version of a Corona or cold virus.
In the present political show, the virus is promoted as a reason for all manner of restrictions on our established freedoms. This makes no sense. The virus is relatively harmless but the fear stoked in the population at large, registering government efforts to the contrary, are directed at the unvaccinated and requiring vaccinations for all.
The ‘vaccines’ are not conventional vaccines but genetic modifiers. Those taking these experimental jabs will suffer all manner of impairment to their normal functions. Whether now or tomorrow, one year down the line, these vaccines will continue to kill large numbers of innocents.
We were at a party last night with our bowls friends and there are people who just will not hear of any arguments that this virus is not nearly as deadly as we keep being told. Their eyes are firmly shut and no amount of logic can move them. None so blind. But it doesn’t bode well for the future. What will happen when the next virus comes along, lockdown all over again, the same with Autumn and Winter. The reaction has given Government a wonderful taste of control and they won’t give it up without a fight.
One of my BiL’s is very much like that. His constant come back pitch is, So what you’re saying is no one has died from covid. H’e probably in church for the Sunday service as i type this.
Good morning all – Sunday’s new page is here.
Thank you, Sir