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Morning everyone. Just a personal anecdote here. I went down town early yesterday (8AM) to do some shopping. There were already two scruffy looking guys at the bus stop (it’s a small local service that links several estates) who I had never seen before. Without wishing to make any claim to ESP I knew immediately from thirty yards away. I don’t know where they were from. One was drinking a can of 1664 and could hardly speak English. The other was quite fluent and working in a carwash. The disappointment my friends! I was expecting a couple of Brain Surgeons at the very least on my first personal meeting with our new compatriots! I’m sure that they will be a credit to the local community!
Good morning, Minty.
The rocket scientists and brain surgeons, according a friend who was in the “city” centre on Friday last, are here in N Essex along with their families.
No harm in repeating.:
Good morrow, gentlefolk. Today’s (recycled) story
PRAYER MATS
A British Engineer just started his own business in Birmingham.
He’s making land mines that look like prayer mats.
It’s doing well…
Huge groan from SWMBO! Morning, Tom.
I hope her tummy-ache gets better, soon.
Compare and contrast with what modern society calls a “hero”:
“The funeral of the man believed to be the last surviving veteran of the infamous Burma Railway, has taken place.
Jack Jennings, 104, died at his care home in Torquay, Devon, in January.
Following his capture on Feb 15 1942, he was one of thousands of prisoners tasked by the Japanese to build the railway between Thailand and Myanmar.
His granddaughter Carolyn Heath described him as her “hero” and said: “He did just amazing things in a very simple way.
“He was a carpenter and of course, that helped him out in the war when he was building the railway, but he was also really helpful to us at home and just was a jack of all trades, really.”
The deaths of thousands during the forced construction of the development led the project to be named the “death railway” but he was one of those who survived.
He was one of the survivors and his passing was marked with a guard of honour by the Royal British Legion at the service at The Little Theatre in Torquay.
Mr Jennings was captured on February 15, 1942, in Singapore when he was serving with the
Cambridgeshire Regiment and was held as a prisoner of the Japanese until the end of August 1945.
He battled through ill health and went on to marry his childhood sweetheart Lilian Mary in December 1945.
His daughter Hazel Heath said although he did not talk about his experiences for many years, he was “proud in the end”. He later took the decision to write a memoir about being a prisoner of war. Mr Jennings moved to Torquay and had a passion for playing the harmonica, according to his daughters.”
God rest his soul, MIR. (Good morning, btw.)
Respect.
Problem is, language has become inflated, so people now use the word “hero” to describe someone who does something vaguely useful, like stop coffee sfom spilling, and there’s no useful word left to describe the gentleman above, or yesterday’s cleric awarded VC. A problem.
insertion of the word ‘real’ before hero.
Good Morning Folks
Raining here.
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Good morning, Bob3. Well done with Wordle.
Well done! I was uninspired this morning…
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Britain’s struggling GP service has failed to recover from the effects of Covid
It’s all but shut down as the service we once knew, maybe this was always the plan.
And maybe not – who knows? (Good morning, btw.)
Good morning, chums. Whilst waiting for the new page I attempted Wordle whilst listening to poems on Angel Radio. As a result I didn’t even get the answer in six – had I thought more carefully I could have just scraped with six. Anyhow, hello everyone and I hope you all enjoy your day.
Good morning, all. Pouring down here.
Let’s start with something of beauty created by a genius. Could this be a photograph?
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It is a portion of the sky in The Hay Wain landscape painted in 1821 by John Constable. One of, if not the, most well known of English paintings.
Sadly, not to everyone:
https://twitter.com/MurrayFurry1/status/1758864428848894244
You can see how the climate has changed by comparing then and now
In the summer of 2022.
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Good morning, Korky. Two things to say to you today:
(1) Thank goodness the first photo of the clouds in your first post is not the jigsaw puzzle I am attempting – that is difficult enough.
(2) Where has the horse and cart gone? I’d better look in the fridge! Lol.
Morning, Elsie.
The detail in the painting as a whole is wonderful but that sky is amazing. Something created 200 years ago that captured the essence of that very different time needs to be remembered. Good to see that the owners of Willy Lott’s cottage have had the decorators in.
Painting the sky is notoriously difficult – nobody has ever managed English skies as well as Constable
Constable practised painting skies. I have a collection of his sky studies as postcards purchased from the V&A many years ago. The originals are in their collection.
I saw some of them in the Constable exhibition at the Tate Gallery (?) when I was a small child
Also Suffolk is what I call “big sky” country.
Good morning, Elsie
‘We are witnessing a growing trend where public servants face intimidation and threats’. Tobias Ellwood. 18 February 2024.
Though this was the first pro-Palestinian targeting of an MP’s house, it is far from an isolated incident. Fellow MPs agree – we are witnessing a growing trend where public servants increasingly face intimidation and threats.
Look at a Parliamentarian’s email inbox and there is now a constant barrage of hate messages, not least against female MPs. Without concerted action, the horrible prospect of another grave attack on a parliamentarian only increases.
This is beyond parody! The people responsible for this situation are worried! Perhaps he should talk to Batley Man I’m sure that he would have some tips! On a personal note Ellwood is a colonel in 77 Brigade whose Trolls spend their time on the threads countering the views and opinions of people like myself.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/02/17/we-must-better-protect-those-who-serve-the-public/
One day they came for the public servants
and there wasn’t anyone left to defend them
Servants?
Overlords, maybe.
People don’t like being lied to. On top of that the abysmally poor service and you end up with angry customers/voters. It is no surprise to me MP’s are getting it in the neck.
Good morning.
People should be grateful for their lives being worsened.
I can stub my own toe thank you.
The biter bit.
No sympathy for these people. These public servants are fortunate that the mass of the population haven’t yet woken up to what they have inflicted on the people. If there is an awakening…
Standing down as an MP, 87 at the latest count, the bulk Tory, should not save them from the wrath of the people they have betrayed. Not just mass immigration but for inflicting lockdowns, coercing people to take an unsafe and ineffective drug (many of them cheered Sunak when he claimed during PMQs that it is safe) and crashing the economy etc. etc.
But as always the collective damage they have all knowingly carried out and inflicted on this country, is as always is, everyone else’s fault.
What a shame we don’t have a strong alternative political party the public can vote for and clear all these people out of the system. It’s rotten to the core.
Good morning, all. Raining. Will rain until this afternoon.
Anti-Semitic attacks
SIR – It is disturbing to read that anti-Semitism is persistent and growing (Letters, February 15).
The former Chief Rabbi Lord Sacks equated antisemitism to a virus that
mutates. Whereas it was religion-based and came from the Church in the
Middle Ages, it evolved into a race-based doctrine under the Nazis. The
third mutation of anti-Semitism, in contemporary times, is fixated on
the Jewish nation-state Israel and Zionism.
Since the outbreak of
the war in Gaza and Israel last October, we have seen and heard calls
for the eradication of Israel, alongside physical, verbal and online
attacks on Jews in Britain. We have also witnessed the virus infect a
number of public-facing institutions.
We need the Government and
the police to continue to be supportive, and the vast majority of the
British public to extend a hand of solidarity to the Jewish community.
The message to the zealots and bigots should be clear: anti-Semitism is
not just an attack on the Jewish community, but an attack on Britain and
the values we stand for.
Zaki Cooper
London NW4
We all know the reason for this rise in attacks against Jews. We also know what the government and police response is. Sweep it under the carpet.
How the authorities can ignore this herd of noisy elephants in the room is beyond parody.
The proverbial carpet has so many lumps under it now, the doors of hate are jammed open.
It’s pretty obvious what is going on but our authorities are too reticent and stupid to be able to recognise it.
Morning, all Y’all.
Beautiful sunny day yesterday, back to snowing today.
Notes from the Sticks: An inconvenience truth
No more public toilets and you’ll be fined for going behind a tree or in the bushes
Butt we must give the developers free rein to build unaffordable housing.
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/notes-from-the-sticks-so-inconvenient/
Disaster the element just blew on the grill, no toast
ARRRGGHHH!
A disaster indeed!
I put it in the oven instead, it’s sort of toasted
Quick ! Light a bonfire.
Using a piece of kitchen towel as a base to absorb the steam, you can make a crispy bread substitute in the microwave. Or just buy a toaster.
And be amazed how expensive it is!
Good morning all.
The overnight rain has paused leaving behind another dull start with little breeze and still an almost springlike 7°C on the Yard Thermometer.
Morning Bob – a damp start which hopefully will improve
Predators and a danger to their prey of choice but nonetheless beautiful animals.
Bobcat and Eagle Owl.
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Top one is Gus. Yesterday – he came in for breakfast – clamoured to go out – and five minutes later an enormous dead rat was placed by the back door.
Gus has earned his keep. What about freeloader Pickles?
He is better with mice. And moles.
Predators and a danger to their prey of choice but nonetheless beautiful animals.
Bobcat and Eagle Owl.
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Like many on here, I am not a particular fan of the Axminster Masticating lifestyle, but given the current insanity of men becoming women simply because they say they have, I wish this lass good luck with her venture:-
I went to a lesbian bar once. Half of them looked like men.
Uptick for “Axminster Masticating”.
It took me a moment or two. :@)
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Morning Bob,
I’ll drink to that, tis a genuine need / cause.
L and Damnation!
Navalny’s death will strike fear into all Russians who hate Putin’s criminal regime. 18 February 2024.
It is probably not a coincidence that he died a few weeks before the March presidential “election” where Putin will rubber-stamp another six years in office. His death will strike fear and hopelessness into the minority who hate the Kremlin and its mad war.
Of course! It was the perfect time! Sunak is probably going to knock off Assange shortly! And the vote is up in the US Senate for the Ukie Aid Bill. What could be better?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/17/analysis-alexei-navalny-kremlin-putin-political-opposition/
I suspect we will soon begin slowly to learn the truth about Navalny.
Minority has lost hope? Oh, well.
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Morning Each,
David Cameron to visit Falkland Islands next week
British sovereignty ‘will not be up for discussion’ gesture to Argentina from Foreign Secretary
Meaning on their past record of truth telling, pledge, promises and vow breaking there will be a straight overnight seamless hand over.
It wasn’t and isn’t about sovereignty. Having control of the Falkland Islands guarantees our mineral rights in Antarctica.
Our both ignorant and stupid – there is a difference – politicians are shutting down/have shut down so much of our mineral extraction here in the UK that I have no faith in them protecting our rights elsewhere.
Nearly 400 of our military lost their lives in that conflict. To give up the islands now would affect recruitment. As if they aren’t having enough trouble as it is.
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Morning P,
Then safeguarding his staked claim then.
You mean the EU’s mineral rights in Antarctica. BRINO, aka Hotel California.
You mean the EU’s mineral rights in Antarctica. BRINO, aka Hotel California.
Not to mention the small matter that the Bennies don’t want to become Argentinian.
There are only 4000 of them. I don’t believe the government would raise a sweat over that.
Is it the old tactic of the football club manager expressing his confidence in the manager days before sacking him? Any trust in Cameron & Co, and it’s a very large & Co, is a waste of goodwill.
I hope he doesn’t return.
I hate to say it, but….
https://twitter.com/BeardedBob7282/status/1759156161331216830
Good Mornig all. 10C stopped raining but still grey and overcast, but remember,
“There is always one fine week in February.”
Good morning all and the 77th,
It’s a bit dull over McPhee Towers, wind in the West, 11-12℃, heavy showers expected.
I can’t find anything to get worked up about probably because there is so much that I may be suffering from some sort of ennui. Am I a victim of Yuri Bezmenov’s process of subversion, demoralisation and chaos? Dr. Richard Soper of Great Saxhamn, Suffolk must be to write this. But, does he even exist? Or is this letter a fiction planted by the propagandists? It’s certainly ‘off the wall’.
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Should learn to look and steer. Eejit.
Difficult to do on rarely used roads and especially when it is raining/has rained recently. The problems in N Essex are innumerable and some are very severe. I’ve lost one tyre and a front road spring on my Volvo in the last year.
On the routes that I have to take I’m aware of the current potholes and I’ve recently worked out other routes that avoid ‘moonscapes’ with the potential to damage my car: one of these is to a pub that a group of us use and the new route, not without problems but at the moment less severe problems, doubles the distance.
A bit unfair, Paul. Some of the roads round here – and, everywhere in reality – are appalling. Bloody great holes a foot deep lurk under benign looking puddles. On our road, two cars cannot pass – so one has to pull into a convenient bit of mud to enable t’other car to go by. The mud also contains bloody great holes. I noticed on a trip to Devon that potholes are universal even on motorways.
As Bill says, often you can’t see the depth of the holes for the standing water.
Article from 2014
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/07/air-force-research-how-to-use-social-media-to-control-people-like-drones/?comments=1&comments-page=1
Apparently nowadays there is research into giving each of us our own personalised internet experience where we believe we will be interacting with other people, but in fact, we will only be reading bot-generated text that panders to our preferences.
That’s the logical next step to automate the gatekeeper network, I suppose.
I think this is likely on platforms like Twitt and Instagram, which are very controlled walled gardens. Finding real content on the internet may get harder.
Thus leading to the state where we cannot identify the truth even when confronted with it? Aren’t we there now? The only sensible response is disengagment, going back to pen, ink and paper and meetings with real people at a local level.
Yes, I agree. A personal, local network is of the utmost importance – that’s what Stand in the Park tries to achieve, to get like-minded locals together, also Dick Delingpole’s Third Wednesday /Thursday groups.
I think the internet will continue to exist, but walled gardens like the big tech platforms will perhaps be increasingly useless – and people will be offered ever more incentives to stay inside them.
Dr Soper is a retired magistrate.
Lets start mending roads and stop building cycle ways.
There are lots of places they could cut spending and nobody would notice (except things might improve). Net zero, climate change emergency/armageddon/disaster (take your pick), dieversity, transgenderism, rainbow flags and virtue signalling for a start.
Good Morning, all
Damp
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If only we had a strong and meaningful alternative to those two and their very expensive and generally useless colleagues.
I am no great enthusiast for the Reform Party but it is better than wasting a vote on the Dodo Party. The Reform Party needs a more convincing leader and better policies on Brexit, immigration, Covid jab damage and the disastrous drive towards Net Zero so that it can become the right of centre party of the future which the country so desperately needs.
Well you have to make astart Try voting Reform and lets take it from there.
I will if they have a candidate JN.
That’s the snag for me. At GE19 there was only the usual suspects to ‘choose’ from. I suspect it will be ‘none of the above’ for GE24.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/%2Fmethode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2Fe354198b-a2ca-4447-aa94-4ba73ff880b1.jpg?crop=1407%2C938%2C130%2C0&resize=1027.5
That is so true.
Forget the childish doodle of a tree – this is the Conservative Party’s new emblem!
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Dough being one of the most important features of their lives.
But “doh!” is the feature of their performance.
Bread and butter.
Morning all 🙂😊
At least it’s stopped raining.
Not sure if it was the effects of covid that has caused our GP services to struggle, more likely to be the effects free access and of immigration, legal and illegal. And a few more Doctors than there has been in the past, taking on private work. A few are even TV stars now !
It’s A&E that needs looking into. 15 hours or even overnight sitting and waiting to be seen. Ambulances queued in carparks? This can no longer be caused by the effects of covid now, let’s be honest.
I’m sure sacking 40,000 health workers for not being vaccinated didn’t help.
That’s probably why the private sector has become so vibrant Phizz.
And of course who in Westminster and Whitehall knew, that opening our borders to hundreds of thousands people from who knows where, given free access to the health service, would clog the system.
and people put upwith it.
Most Britons don’t understand how a functioning social healthcare system is financed so they don’t realise how bad the NHS is.
They need to make more dancing videos.
A&E is chock-a-block because people can’t see a GP. Dial 111 and they’ll tell you if you can’t see a GP either dial 999 or drive to A&E.
Yes I’ve been there a few times recently Conners. I’ve decided as my pain has gone this morning, not to worry now.
I think it might have been caused by the upper respiratory infection.
There are quite a few known doctors acting about on TV at the moment.
One of them from the bbc morning programme narrated and ‘acted’ a two hour show about the vikings.
It must have taken months to make the prog. The queue to see him must be miles long. Dr Van Tulleken.
383590+ up ticks,
Lost in the pursuit of party before Country values,
https://x.com/Knight21st/status/1758996865285050843?s=20
Get a bike, K…!!
As a keen gardener he could share a horse.
Bill gets the back half…naturally.
BT, I cycled to my office for >20 years and then did two country post rounds for 2 more and one more year cycling to work nearby. I started cycling for pleasure/fitness after I was retired by Cameron’s cash cuts but concluded that where I live it’s too damn dangerous a past-time. Sent bike to Africa via a charity.
It goes in cycles, K…{:¬))
Good morning!
https://twitter.com/Cherub_Rock_23/status/1758953778122805636
Jeffry Epstein woz ‘ere.
They lied to me.
Net zero was bollox?
“We iz blick, innit”
Veni, vidi vici perii.
Kilroy was also here
My name was Elvis.
“You took your time”.
“Should have said no”
Schwab and Gates won.
Watch out for Dinghies!
“Don’t trust Elon Musk” was the best entry off Twitter I thought!
“Human meat taste good.” (In Martian)
Work, rest, play, die.
I was chatting with Bruce yesterday, south east of Melbourne. Sometimes we have a tenancy to envy their climate conditions. Last week they had an earthquake 4.8. But they more recently had another massive storm that rained golf ball sized ice particles on them. It resulted in 5 days of power cuts due to the damage of overhead cables and junction boxes. No lights no cooking no nothing. Freezer content ruined. The candles and bbq became essential to survival.
In passed and similar experiences the ice has been larger and many cars including their daughter’s were smashed.
Good morning BB2 and everyone. You call them’ walled gardens’, I call them camps.
The Virtual Archipelago.
True! ‘Walled garden’ is an old term from the early days of phone ringtones meaning you had to source everything from the network provider iirc. The (their) idea was that customers would never WANT to step outside the experience that they offered!
Camps 2.0 perhaps…
Vladimir Putin is a gangster-murderer. Only strength and punishment can defeat him. 17 January 2024.
Perhaps Navalny’s death has caught people’s imagination because of the contrast it represents. On the one hand, the (literally) suicidal courage of a dissident who would not abandon the cause of a democratic Russia, who chose to return to his country even after its regime had tried to assassinate him; on the other, the wretched cowardice of a dictator who has again resorted to murder at a distance.
We knew Putin was a dictator. We knew he was a kleptocrat. We knew he was a bully. But to have someone bumped off in prison is the act of a mafia capo. Once again, we see that the Russian Federation is a crime syndicate with a country attached.
This is utter fantasy. There is no evidence whatsoever that Putin was involved or even that Navalny was murdered. We don’t even know the actual cause of death. The supposed Sudden Death Syndrome is just a rumour from Navalny’s Mother. She is not a pathologist! . No official source has suggested, let alone confirmed it. These morons are talking themselves into a blind alley from which there is no escape.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/17/vladimir-putin-gangster-murderer-only-strength-can-defeat/
So can we now, at last, hold Bliar “accountable” for the death of Dr Kelly?
Very good question!
And Biden’s and the PTB’s minions for the hanging of Epstein?
Only a couple of weeks ago Sunak declared in Parliament that the Covid jabs are safe
and effectiveThis is certainly a terminological inexactitude as they used to call sheer lies!If the PTB and the MSM say anything then it is fake news and disinformation to question it and at best you will be censored but often you will be punished.
It seems that the mass of people in the UK are still prepared to swallow complete absurdities.
Corbyn’s cognitive dissonance comes to the fore.
Had the funds sent to Gaza been used to their intended purpose, the Gazans would have a the best lifestyles in the Middle East:-
https://twitter.com/BeardedBob7282/status/1759154714782945635
Assuming it’s not a parody account I think that confirms what most people think that he is 99.9% tosser.
Sadly, it really is Corbyn’s account.
Anyone we know?
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Madre de Deus, Brazil
A reveller wears a costume made from beer and soda cans at the Bloco da Latinha street party carnival parade in Madre de Deus
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Beijing, China
Members of a folk dancing troupe that perform on stilts, or gaoqiao, wait to perform at a local temple fair for the Chinese lunar new year and spring festival in Beijing
I think I would find their performance a bit stilted!
Morning Michael and all.
Can it!
The one on the left is Peggy Lee.
Oh Dear!
England 50-6 in their pursuit of 557.
Need a big stand, then.
That’s what Eskimo Nell demanded!
India didn’t need their second innings…
383590+ up ticks,
Sunday 18 February: Britain’s struggling GP service has failed to recover from the effects of Covid
Bollocks of the highest order, it was first triggered when the
serving PM 1997 ( Miranda) lifted the entry latch, in the biggest act of treason,ever.
NONE of the countries infrastructure medication, education, incarceration, accommodation will ever work to any agreeable level of satisfaction again, the likes of the Dover invasion campaign dictates that.
The political mobsters are laying out their stalls, the majority of voting fools are saying “well teach em, busying themselves with constructing a bigger stick for their own backs.
‘Morning All
Several years ago I posted a video about a civil war in 2029 in Europe which several people mocked,this video has been expunged from the internet except for this sadly soundless version on a facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/Ozzibloke/videos/europe-in-2029/282867678518885/
Yorr not laffing now………
https://twitter.com/oflynnsocial/status/1758984782006850039?t=RgBd6CNes-HFyCz9oExrhQ&s=19
For some reason I can’t find mention of this on the BBC /sarc
No. Here it is…..https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33378702
From 2015 !
I’m a bit late to the party on this one, Rik, but it doesn’t hurt to repeat this deliberately manufactured crisis.
Send in the fat lady! Job done.
Who are these Entrean? Do we mean Eritran? Or have they invented a new country to export hooligans from?
At 9:00 am this morning I received confirmation that Radio 3 is determined to fulfil its Woke destiny. A new presenter was thrust onto the airwaves who came across as a refugee from Radio 1…Bah Humbug!
And a coon, to boot. Bet he hadda lotta raaap “music” in his playlist.
Try Radio Swiss Classic: https://www.radioswissclassic.ch/fr
No drivel; no adverts; no “news” – just music.
Ah blessed relief!
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Piling on the agony?
Medley Time
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And of course bags in which to put dogs’ faeces are made of plastic!
And hung on trees, gate posts etc to rot!
Strange fruit.
But I think Billie Holiday had something even nastier in mind!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Web007rzSOI
A study has shown that bio-degradable plastics release more toxins into the enviroment than ordinary plastic.
One of our local workers who collects our kitchen waste in bio-degradable bags, told me those bags are more trouble than they are worth. The workers have to split them and remove them from the sludge. Because they bags take far too long to breakdown. But I guess it’s better than all the leftovers having to be tipped from bin to bin and into the collection truck.
I don’t like them because they go brittle in the cupboard before I have had a chance to use the whole roll.
We’ve never had that problem, I was always under the impression they only started to degrade when wet.
In South Carolina, they haven’t heard that plastic bags are bad. At the supermarket there is a new bag for every two or three items and recycling is quite simple to master – everything goes into a single bin.
Ahem………
https://twitter.com/scottygoesagain/status/1758831163672588356?s=46&t=vKlFhsxSFVUgpulHwoj79g
https://twitter.com/stuckgear/status/1758850519320170798?s=20
https://twitter.com/Terror_Alarm/status/1758778879026569341
Now,about Gonzalo Lira………….
Oh Wait…….
Will the German Brigade sent to Lithuania have actual weapons, or broomsticks? Ursula Fonda-Lyin may have the answer?
How do we know Navalny is dead? We have only the media’s word for it.
…and the body is missing…
These two belong together
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QugooaNRnsk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-G3VdglsDY
I noticed in the supermarket on the moving walkway 5 men in a line all staring at their phones.
With Labour Britain will get it’s future back, claims Rachel Reaves.
https://twitter.com/BeardedBob7282/status/1759173884572483781
She is a sort of moddun (sic) version of Harriet Harperson.
https://twitter.com/BeardedBob7282/status/1759179924588347686
If Labour are elected the young will learn about Labour the hard way as we did.
My retirement funds are no longer denominated in GBP, nor parked in the UK. Hatches are being battened down even now.
The Reeve’s Tale in Chaucer’s Canterbury Tales is one of the most vulgar and coarse ones in the compilation. It graphically recounts the antics of a couple of students who stay in a miller’s house and cuckold him by both having an energetic night of fornication with his wife.
It seems ironic that we shall all shortly be stuffed by Ms Reeves!
More on Ukraine and more especially, a brief portrait of General Zaluzhnyi, the general that Zelenskyy has just fired. No Nazis in Ukraine, really!
Scott Ritter exposes the truth in Ukraine and the West’s cover-up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqBk6PYQCEY&t=188s
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Blackpool Railings, 1951 (Picture post 5358 – Bert Hardy’s Box Camera)
Former Tiller Girls Pat Wilson (right) of Bridgend, mid Glamorgan, and Wendy Clarke of Southall in London
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Robinson and Fans, 1951
Passers-by speak to US boxer Sugar Ray Robinson (1921-1989) in his car in Paris.
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Street Talk, 1951 (Picture Post 5201 – Fish) Hull, Yorkshire
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Royal wedding 1947
Bridesmaids adjust Princess Elizabeth’s veil on her arrival at Westminster Abbey
Street talk is the Google of yesteryear
I’m obviously mentally scarred.
The “Street talk” picture, at first glance, looked like a lineup of the doomed about to be hanged – and it took a huge spike of horror before I looked properly and fortunately found I was wrong. Thank God.
Just called Mother’s care home – she is snoozing after Sunday lunch. Bugger – too late again, due to wrestling with snowed-in cars.
But the carer who took the telephone, what a comfortable, cozy South Welsh voice she has. The sort of voice that makes you just want to curl up for a cuddle…
Cwtch, cariad.
…and of course the song to ‘Beloved’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=hNtn8B3zz8g
1951. What a wonderful year.😉
“Got a feeling ’51 is going to be a good year…” [from Tommy (the film), Pete Townshend.]
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As with the “invaders” if the daily quota is not filled we will go out and get some more, so it is if we run short of lockdown fear material, to be dug up for future use.
The couple trying to keep killer ‘zombie viruses’ at bay – and protect us from another pandemic
Thanks to rising temperatures and melting permafrosts, certain ancient viruses are resurfacing… but just how dangerous to humans are they?
Not a hundredth of what politico / pharmaceutical humans are in regards to other humans., i’ll wager.
Some BTL from Daniel Hannan’s mad “Let’s nuke Russia!” article.
I’ve found only one reference to 2013/14. What a pompous little arse Mr Vine is – and as for his remark about Ukrainian independence…
There really are some very badly informed people out there, or else even more idiots than we feared!
There are a lot of ill-informed idiots, too.
There are a lot of ill-informed idiots, too.
Enrichment?
People should be aware that people such as these have neither culture nor history of achievement and therefore integration into a society with those things is nigh on impossible. Literally, they cannot comprehend what wonderful things other cultures have achieved in the same timeframe that they have achieved nothing of note. It would be the same wherever they landed and a settled culture with a long history existed, not just Europe.
That picture I put up earlier, Constable’s Hay Wain, would be destroyed in a moment if these people gained access to it. In these situations ignorance is far from bliss.
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BLT comment from DT letters page:
Katy Liz
When I was growing up we didn’t have:-
Machetes
Rape gangs
Acid attacks
Honour killings
Arranged marriages
Declining IQ
Growing anti semitism
Growing homophobia
Cousin marriages
Polygamy
Halal
FGM
County lines
Jihadis
Calls to Prayer
Why do we have them now..?
All of that is a direct consequence of the Evil Tories closing all the youth clubs.
As I understand it.
All caused by politicians. as they are the problem.
Why do we have them now..?
What a tricky question – how can one give an answer that is both true and unxenophobic or not untrue but Islamophobic?
It’s not a tricky question at all.
The answer is that we have become a nation of thick, spoon-fed milksops who have had all our brains, backbone and common sense bred out of us by increasingly weaker successive generations.
I care not for what people choose to label me or names they wish to call me (sticks and stones and all that). Any generation going back in history, prior to 1950, would not have stood for any of it. Those responsible for the abominations would have been hunted down and lynched.
All that people do, these days, is tut-tut on social media before returning to their Daily Mail and their heavily processed ‘food’.
Not tricky question at all – the answer is in 4 words – “complete absence of leadership”.
And two more “open borders”.
Only because of the complete absence of leadership.
Oh, I don’t know. I thought they were “leading beyond authority”.
Acting, behaving, moving beyond authority, perhaps, but leading!!!!
Weren’t there the notorious “razor gangs” in Scotland and surely homophobia was so ingrained that it didn’t even have the name? Katy Liz is right about the rest though. However, the other side of the coin when she (and I) was growing up was:
Outdoor swimming pools closed during Summer because of “infantile paralysis”.
Goodness knows how many children sexually abused and no-one cared enough to call it out.
Bullying rife at schools.
Large numbers of youngish men and women dying from TB.
Few people able to afford a car.
B/W TV with 3 channels only.
Fatal road traffic accidents because no seat belts were fitted.
Whilst things today have some very bad aspects (almost all of which could have been avoided with a modicum of leadership) and some aspects of yesteryear were idyllic, I still think that we are better off today.
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You still see far too many.
As I said a couple of days ago:
Many people are disappointed by the fact that the Conservative Party did so badly in the recent by-elections; I am very disappointed that it did so well.
The Conservative Party is dying and the sooner it has stopped twitching and is properly dead the better.
And I bet as soon as the gavel falls the vote will be shredded (a la Banksie) so the voter can’t be identified and die of shame….
In theory voters cannot be identified by their ballot papers.
FFS No words
https://twitter.com/AMDWaters/status/1758931708429144346?s=20
Meanwhile…….
https://twitter.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1759191167898460430
no problem,not a penny in aid,not a single visa see how fast they change their minds
Just drop it through a trapdoor then.
Ignoring the fact that it’s the men who are rapists. The tone deaf agenda trumps young men and women committing suicide in the armed forces because of sexual harassment from senior male officers.
Edited for spoiling.
“………not a penny in aid, not a single visa.”
Of course that is the answer – but can you imagine any of our politicians doing it?
Half of them come from there, so it’s a big ask.
“………not a penny in aid, not a single visa.”
Of course that is the answer – but can you imagine any of our politicians doing it?
Delivery from C130 rear-end ramp, 10 000 feet, no parachute.
Good idea, but unfortunately, the RAF no longer have any C130.
Do they have anything worthwhile in the flying stakes (apart from the BBMF, of course)?
Yes they do. They actually have some pretty good aircraft but just nowhere near enough of them.
FFS No words
https://twitter.com/AMDWaters/status/1758931708429144346?s=20
Meanwhile…….
https://twitter.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1759191167898460430
no problem,not a penny in aid,not a single visa see how fast they change their minds
Taken this afternoon while the Sun was out:
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Lovely!
What is your camera/lens combination, if you don’t mind me asking?
He does do better pictures than you doesn’t he. :@)
Certainly when it comes to flowers with a macro lens.
I tend mainly towards bird photography with a telescopic lens
No. I meant your food pictures. Everything comes out looking beige. :@)
In Desmond Morris’s excellent tome on the human condition, Manwatching, he explains why no one eats blue food.
All it is is a Panasonic Lumix TZ90 point and shoot G, but for all that I am really happy with the photographs I get out of it.
https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/uk/reviews/panasonic-lumix-zs70-tz90-review
Those Lumix cameras get a good write-up. You can’t go wrong with a Leica lens.
I have two pairs of Leica binoculars so I know just how excellent their optics are.
It’s the best camera by a large margin, I have ever had. I will get a more ‘expert’ camera when I retire, and hopefully it will keep me out from under Mrs. Quitters feet.
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As an amateur ornithologist, bird photography is my preference.
That’s nice, and I suspect Mrs. Quitter would consider it worth every penny if it gives her a bit of peace and quiet.
Lunch today. Wiener Schnitzel, Caesar salad and a large glass of Grüner Veltliner. All home made. Except for the obvious.
Because i’m worth it !
Just had hot dogs and a coffee
I like those too.
Just had steak, egg and chips!
It’s Sunday today not Saturday !
Roast Beef Roast potatoes and veg. with Colmans mustard home mixed.
Do you have a recording of the Sound of Music to complete your Austrian indulgence?
Funny you should mention that.
No !
Although, in your case, “The Pills are Alive…”
I’m thinking of going back to the recreational pills. At least while awake all night i would be happy.
Slice of cherry cake and a Oatie biscuit for me. Pork chop, mushy peas and roast spuds tonight
Do you make your own cakes?
I’m afraid not – with the exception of oatcakes
Grüner Veltliner? That’s the Austrian plonk that was found to be containing antifreeze.
The Italians, in the 60s, were making red vermouth with boot polish.
Just right in the winter!
I expect they have tidied it up by now…The 1985 Austrian
diethylene glycol wine scandal (German: Glykolwein-Skandal) was an
incident in which several Austrian wineries illegally adulterated their
wines using the toxic substance diethylene glycol (a minor ingredient in
some brands of antifreeze) to make the wines appear sweeter and more
full-bodied.
It’s in ibuprofen and the Covid meds too. In theory your body excretes it via the normal channels.
Nah – it is yet another new and unsafe aircraft from Boeiing!
Excellent. I like my roast beef very rare.
I’m entertaining on Thursday with some perfectly roasted medium-rare (53–55ºC internal) beef. Served with roasted chunks of potato, onion, garlic and thyme; and a few veg (for those that insist) and a fabulous gravy.
What is fabulous about your gravy other than the addition of Hendersons?
Bisto granules.
Can’t do better!
If you believe that, Paul, you know nowt about gravy. I tried that muck once, decades ago, and it was beyond rank!
;-))
I am so sorry for you. :@(
I don’t use Hendo’s in gravy.
I use ALL the meat juices and pan scrapings. This is augmented by adding a demi glace that I make by roasting beef bones, pressure cooking them, then reducing the stock to a syrup.
Classic !
I do that too but i also use the trivet veg as a thickener. Passed through a fine mesh. As my friends like lots of gravy and a reduced stock that far is a bit rich. Flour bloats which is why i don’t add it.
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It seems that all the armchair pathologists over at the DT have saved Vlad’s chaps a job. Its just awful that dictators sometimes murder their enemies… as we saw with Dr Kelly.
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Just spent the last 90 minutes trying to free Second Son’s car from the icy grip of snow – and failed. Can’t rock it, as it can’t go backwards, and can’t get behind it to push as there’s no space against the fence. Difficult to clear the sides due to fence & garage wall… bollox to it, so we tried SWMBOs car, where the battery is flat…
Now I’m cross, tired & sweaty, wih no positive result.
Try not to be so negative Paul – it could be terminal!
Take charge of the situation.
Could defuse things, though.
You’re being very earthy today
That’s because when I was a child whenever I went near a doctor my parents were told I was wirey…..
Can’t see watts your problem.
It’s the small things that tend to get amplified into much bigger problems….
Take the fence down.
Right, said Fred!
You’re too sexy…
Move to Yorksire.
The Real Nixon. He was very underated and they gave himthe Trump treatment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d_BHGeL6f8
Part 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEX6ONLvJg0
Normal channels? :@)
I was being polite. Rectum. Anus. OK, arse!
I see you have hit bottom…
That’s what happens after spending a while on Nottl!
Fiddler on the Roof is on t’ telly.
Is it Auntie’s idea of supporting Jews atm?
It might make muslims smash their TV’s. So not all bad.
https://twitter.com/True_Belle/status/1759233775592976673
(Swanage railway)
Driving through Horton this morning I noticed the Spring lambs are about.
Ah – lunch….
Tenth of March to the ninth of April.
That’s when the lambs go missing.
Ramadam is a moveable feast.
But ewe know it’s not just the rams they’re after! They savour a dam or two too.
Ram our dams I call it.
More like Damn our Rams.
Don’t let the CC Wokies see that.
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I cannot see the sheep standing for this,
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https://clownworldstore.com/collections/mens/products/evolution-to-sheep-classic-t-shirt
A tee shirt with this design on it was no longer relevant
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so they produced the Jacob Bronowski in reverse one to show us where we’re heading!
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Back in the 1960s a lot of people liked to eat a pseudo-food called Instant Whip. In the 1970s they progressed to an even more Frankenstein version called Angel Delight. Nether item had any recognised food product in its long list of chemicals that were marketed as “ingredients’. I couldn’t stand the vile muck.
I am quite persuaded that this is what heralded the commencement of the exponentially-rapid rise in human stupidity. We are what we eat: eat chemicals and your brain erodes. These days supermarket shelves are over-laden with sugar and highly-processed comestibles sold (not cheaply) as ‘food’. Countless hordes of people eat nothing else.
I rest my case.
Instant Whip was popular with the Tories
It’s a bit like that ‘Sunny Delight’ which I believe didn’t contain orange juice but was kept in a fridge in stores so that the company could pretend that it did!
A cynic writes:
I wonder how much the Bazballistas were paid to throw the match away in 40 overs?
Have they no concept of getting ones head down and batting out the innings?
Bazballistas – who they?
The Engerland so-called 1st XI. Recently someone coined the word “Bazball” (I know not why or how) for the players. Citroen will explain.
Ta.
Bazball is an informal term coined by ESPN Cricinfo UK editor Andrew Miller during the 2022 English cricket season, referring to the style of play of the England cricket team in Test matches. It was developed after the appointments of Brendon McCullum (whose nickname is Baz) as Test head coach and Ben Stokes as Test captain by English cricket managing director Rob Key in May 2022. In October 2023, it spawned a book – Bazball: The Inside Story of a Test Cricket Revolution – by Lawrence Booth and Nick Hoult.
The Bazball style and mindset is said to have an emphasis on taking positive decisions in attack and defence, whether batting or in the field. Many of these skills and strategies were developed in playing One Day International and Twenty20 matches.
Look up Bazball in Wikipedia.
They {and the Indian team) wanted Monday orfff.
Uncle Geoffrey Boycott wouldn’t be happy.
Indeed, BT, but the damage was done yesterday. After Duckett’s efforts on the second day, they should have been able to bat through the third and at least match India’s total. Instead, Root threw away his wicket in a manner which, in the not so distant past, would have seen him sent home on the next flight, and England lost 8 for 95 inside 32 overs.
That is one of the reasons that there lurks within my suspicious mind the concept of match-fixing.
England also need to find a way to deal with Yashasvi Jaiswal, who retired hurt yesterday evening with 104 and returned today to add another 110 for his second double hundred of the series.
I don’t know why people worship Root – he’s crap and unreliable. Ok he does have the odd decent innings, he was a crap captain too.
Mo attempted has attempted to mow the lawn .. grass is growing so quickly , but parts of the lawn are very water logged .. the slope of the back garden doesn’t help .
We ate out at lunchtime , nice country pub lunch , first time since last summer .. we chose the pub just over the causeway in Wareham .
I had to book to get 3 places , a few hours before we wanted to eat .
Took spaniel out for a good run , lots of walkers, and loads of cars on the road . Temp got to 15c .. unbelievable ..
Moh fancied a roast as did no 1 son , and indeed the same with me , not a carvery , but my goodness the meat was plentiful and delicious as were the vegetables and lovely roast spuds .
They decided to have a mixture of lamb, beef and pork … a pile of meat . I had roast beef and a decent Yorkshire pud , and proper gravy , an assortment of veg , parsnips were sweet and perfectly roasted . We didn’t have room for puds , so when we arrived home , son made his best coffee brew and we polished off the delicious birthday chocolate cake ..
Moh is having a snooze , the temp is now 13c, blue sky , no breeze , but the water meadows are topped up with flood water , and so was the station carpark.. We heard no heavy rain last night .. .
A lovely spring like Sunday .
That sounds like a good day. Heavy rain most of yesterday and last night. The Tamar was over the path along the river below us and some diversions were needed to walk Oscar.
Aha , that is probably why we have flooded meadows .. the River Frome rises in N Dorset and I suspect they had heavy rain last night .. what a difference 6o miles in distance makes .
I expect the temp has been kind to you all, it is so unseasonal .
Yesterday was No 1 son’s b/day .. 55 years ago it was snowing in Southampton where he was born , flurries , as Moh had to leave his RN ship for a short while , it was anchored in Portsmouth .. and drive in his battered old Ford Anglia to reach me , he was too late , son arrived/ was born before he could get there on time and I was fast asleep!
1969, I left school that year. Wish him a belated happy birthday from a Nottler.
I looked at the lawn to see if I could mow it – getting long, but far too wet. I wouldn’t normally be looking at a first mowing until nearer Easter.
I had a lamb steak for lunch today. Shared the remains with the dogs. Even Oscar struggled to get up and come and sit at my side for the bits 🙂
How’s Oscar getting on, Conners?
Not good, I’m afraid. He’s gone off his legs and we’ll be saying goodbye tomorrow morning.
Oh dear.
A hard decision to make.
Not really. If you saw him struggling, you’d know it’s the right thing. If the collapse had happened before the vets closed on Saturday he would have been sent over the rainbow bridge then. As it was, he’s got lots of pain relief and he’s not suffering, but it’s time.
Oh, I am sorry.
I think all NOTTLers have been there.
Oh, man.
That’s awful.
I’m so sorry.
But he got lucky when he found to care for him.
That’s so sad Conners.
There’s nothing much worse than saying good bye to a doggie friend.
https://twitter.com/DVATW/status/1759252283651457368
Metric measures?
Have we been weakened or strengthened by what was missing then and which we now have in abundance,
Wogs
Fatties.
Bare heads.
Where are all the people who built Britain (aka immigrants)?
Rich folk.
Not very colourful is it?
In case the diversity commissioner is checking, I naturally meant that everyone is dressed in black or grey!
Not very colourful is it?
In case the diversity commissioner is checking, I naturally meant that everyone is dressed in black or grey!
All the men wearing hats!
Yes Minister on That’s TV followed at 17.55 GB then and now – A journey through the Heart of Yorkshire including rare footage from the start of the century (20th?) to modern times.
Watching now ..🤣
A few of the cards are drifting down.
https://x.com/ABridgen/status/1758887968490578247?s=20
All aboard for the circus!!!
https://open.substack.com/pub/tarableu/p/biden-offered-prime-time-russian?r=10qzvs&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true
Best laugh all week…Game, set & match!!!
A steep Bogie Three!
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Dr Josef Mengele, front desk please,
https://youtu.be/l3nmYXBTCjk?si=JqWfvIN0YFFUOiv7
383590 + up ticks,
O2O,
With the daily increase of these odious issues so increases the volume of the Bulala chant,
in regards to these criminal overseers.
https://youtu.be/l3nmYXBTCjk?si=JqWfvIN0YFFUOiv7
https://twitter.com/HButterfly33/status/1759125098760388852
This is how we learn.
Pillock.
Britain’s historic gas-powered lamps – and the campaign to save them from faux-environmentalism
Heartless councils plotted to rip out vintage lamps under the loose cover of eco-friendliness, but the Gasketeers cut through the green tape
Boudicca Fox-Leonard
18 February 2024 • 9:00am
In the summer of 2021, Tim Bryars was alarmed to find council contractors digging up the doorstep of his bookshop in Cecil Court, Covent Garden. Worried they were about to drill down into the 17th century basement, he popped his head around the front door and asked what they were doing.
The reply came that he wasn’t to worry, they were just investigating how easy it would be to convert the gas lamp outside to LED.
“I was obviously incandescent, and started bothering people,” recalls Bryars. Especially when it turned out that Westminster Council had not consulted with any of the statutory bodies that they should have been, such as the Victorian Society.
“I think they thought nobody would notice and when the lamps were gone that would be that,” says Bryars.
While 70 had already been replaced – wrought iron brackets and all – despite some being attached to Grade II listed buildings, Bryars set about saving the rest.
“I’m a bookseller, I know loads of really awkward people,” he laughs. It wasn’t long before he had recruited a list of Theatreland luminaries such as Simon Callow and Griff Rhys Jones to his cause, along with the likes of the historian Dan Cruickshank, who had fought to save the same lamps in the 1970s.
The first recorded demonstration in the world of gas-powered street lamps was on Pall Mall in 1807. They quickly spread to towns and cities across the UK. Originally lit by lamplighters, today they are controlled by a clockwork timer that needs winding every two weeks. The British Gas team of London Lamplighters maintain the remaining 1,300 gas lamps in London, of which 270 are in Westminster. Of these 270, about half are currently listed.
Last week, four historic gas lamps in Covent Garden – installed to mark the beginning of King George V’s reign in 1910 – were granted listed status. More listings, it is hoped, will follow.
As a result of a three year campaign by the London Gasketeers, a pilot project has been launched by Historic England to help inform ongoing discussions about the management of gas lamps in Westminster and beyond.
On a drizzly Tuesday, Bryars and Luke Honey, the co-founders of the campaign group London Gasketeers, are still elated as they lead me around Covent Garden at dusk, just as the lamps flicker into action.
When Westminster first started to replace the gas lamps with replica lanterns with ‘gas-effect’ LEDs they said it was to cut carbon emissions, setting aside a budget of £3 million for the work.
Looking at the numbers, the London Gasketeers quickly realised that the emissions Westminster were talking about were tiny.
“The council said that running the 270 lamps a year was like 40 flights to Australia. And we thought bloody hell, that’s a lot!”
But scrutinising the figures revealed they meant 40 individual passengers. “And when he looked further it was really that all the Westminster lamps are the equivalent of 18 Australians flying home for Christmas. It’s not even a fraction of a plane. That’s how small an impact these lamps have.”
He has concluded that the motivation behind their replacement was box-ticking.
“It was a tick towards net zero but if you’re really worried about climate action there are much better things they could be doing with those resources.”
Bryars finds such greenwashing troubling: “Because it means when someone comes along with something that really is important we’re all far too cynical and say, ‘Oh well, you’re at it again’.”
The London Gasketeers were surprised and pleased to find environmentalists supporting their cause. It highlights how sometimes the cheapest and greenest option is to do the bare minimum.
From Cecil Court we duck into Goodwin’s Court, a 17th-century alleyway, the one-time haunt of actress Nell Gwynne, passing regency shop fronts. Punctuated along the way are the gas lamps and their warming glow.
There is undeniably a different quality to the light. Unlike the harsh light of LEDs, there is none of the spotting of one’s vision when you look away.
The campaign has highlighted another green issue which is the way that light pollution can affect mental health, and that of biodiversity. Darker skies are not only good for our circadian rhythm but that of the natural world, too.
However another argument put forward by the council was one of safety, positing that the gas lamps didn’t provide enough light and were thus a danger to women.
“That excuse made a lot of women very angry,” says Honey. “I think we’ve had more female supporters than male.”
We move on down Henrietta Street, where the lamps are currently not listed. When the campaign started there was no guarantee that even the listed lamps would be saved. It was after reaching an agreement with the council that they wouldn’t be converted, the London Gasketeers set about cataloguing and submitting listing applications for the rest. “This is why it’s so important that they have announced that the first four lamps would be saved.” They are hopeful that it sets a precedent for more listings to follow in the next few months.
That some of the lamps aren’t in the tip-top condition they could be they do not deny. “They’ve all been out in the open air for about 100 years. I think we all agree these lamps need a little TLC and that would make them a bit more efficient,” says Bryars. If they were all taken back to the depot and given a full MOT I think that would help them.” Issues around the state of the gas pipes he similarly says are to do with how Westminster has managed its contractors.
Here and there are modern LED versions that give a harsher light. Although there are a couple that aren’t working. “Whatever lighting you have you will always have issues. They all need maintenance whether they are LED or gas,” points out Honey.
Bryars points out his favourite gas lamp, above the stairs down to the public loos by St Paul’s church in Covent Garden.
Criticism of the campaign has seen the London Gasketeers fend off accusations of dilettantism. To this Honey counters the original campaign to save Covent Garden from having a motorway put around it and the likes of Laurence Olivier fought to defeat the plans. “When they did the original campaign it was in 1974, during the Vietnam War and the oil crisis. There are always terrible things going on in the world and they pass. But these lamps are still here for everyone to enjoy.”
The area is alive with tourists and shoppers. “One thing we love about Covent Garden is that it is modern and vibrant,” says Honey. “We’re not just a bunch of people trying to preserve it in aspic. Modernity is part of the ongoing story of London, but if you take away the gas lamps you’re removing a massive part of London’s story.”
Other cities and towns have shown a markedly different respect for their heritage compared to Westminster Council. The gas lamps in Malvern are lovingly preserved, and the lamplighters of Phoenix Park in Dublin “take their role incredibly seriously,” says Bryars.
It is by the Theatre Royal Drury Lane that the newly protected gas lamps are clustered.
That anyone can admire them is why preserving them is so important. “This isn’t high art you have to pay to see in a museum. It’s on the street and part of everyone’s heritage,” says Bryars.
Fears about the erasure of London’s historic street furniture goes beyond just gas lamps, explains Bryars, extending to bollards, benches and coal holes, anything that doesn’t neatly fit into the modern world. “You can’t just reduce London to brick and glass cubes. Although there are people who would like to,” he says.
What would help preserve more of our history, he says, is if VAT was removed for refurbishing old buildings. “If you throw something new up you don’t pay VAT on it. If you refurbish something old then you do.”
They maintain that their success has been aided by their amateur approach. “If we had been experienced campaigners or lobbyists, the council might have been able to second guess what we would do next,” says Honey.
That and being enormously patient and bloody-minded, adds Bryars. “Luckily the angrier I get, the more polite I am, which is really useful.”
They have received the thanks of the lamplighters, who without the success of the campaign faced losing their jobs. And there has even been a Gasketeers romance.
“Two of our supporters and fellow Gasketeers met on the campaign during the second consultation with Westminster Council, when we were really all quite angry. And now they’re getting married,” says Bryars.
The campaign is a success story for ordinary people everywhere. “It shows that people really do care about their surroundings,” says Bryars. “And they will stick up for their environment.”
Related Topics
London, British Gas, Pollution, History, Heritage https://www.telegraph.co.uk/environment/2024/02/18/london-gas-powered-street-lamps-campaign/
“I was obviously incandescent,” – unlike the lamps
Yet another of these vacant wimmin whom the DT finds to “write” for it.
So you’re saying she’s blown a Gasketeer?
The Wigmore Hall still has some of its original gas lamps in the auditorium. It would be sheer vandalism to remove them.
Where I lived before my recent move the council decided to replace sodium street lighting with LED. They could have chosen warm white LED bulbs which give a warm light. However the chose the bright white LEDs. The effect was to make street look like it had been lit up like the perimeter wire fence of a concentration camp. Effing idiots!
I think this was an Ed Davey initiative. In our street, the number of lamps was also reduced. My neighbours and I lost one by our shared parking bay. It was a useful theft deterrent. The result was a dark spot so the neighbours erected a security lamp by their door to deter the local scrotes.
Our then chairman (of the parish council) was full on for LED lights. I have to say they are more reliable than the old ones and more economical to run.
Part of everyone’s heritage? Not for the majority of “Londoners” these days, I warrant. It isn’t the lack of light from gas lamps that’s a danger to women, it’s the muslim men of fighting age that have been allowed to flood the country.
The town gas lampposts in our street were replaced in the late 60s. I recall something rather warming about the lamps, especially when the gas pressure fluctuated and the lamps flickered slowly.
That’s me done for this wet and dreary day. It finally stopped mid-afternoon and a watery sun hung around for an hour or so. Ground soaked. Hoping for better tomorrow.
Have a spiffing evening.
A demain
Good night, Bill.
https://twitter.com/OhBrokenBritain/status/1759277383037722769
If you have a calculator you’d need a brain to use one……
Say no more.
Made Oi larff…
https://youtube.com/shorts/R-w-0AgDeKs?si=I_J4TqO4pG0xpv-S
383590+up ticks,
Old kneel has gone, or going, into Cunute mode
stop this war NOW you Israelis go on home and await the hamas missiles to come over and take you OUT, what sort of peoples are you
that cannot accept a bit of a misunderstanding.
End Gaza fighting now, says Sir Keir Starmer
Party leader edges towards backing motion for immediate ceasefire, at Scottish Labour conference in Glasgow
And what happens if there is an immediate ceasefire? Will Hamas release the hostages? Will they never attack Israel again?
Exacto. (Copyright Peddy The Viking).
Or will they regroup and rearm?
383590+ up ticks,
Evening A,
Within the hour i’d wager.
‘Night All
Sometimes I despair………
” Britain’s second most senior general has said she wants to see less hierarchical behaviour and more “empowerment” in the Army.
Lt Gen Dame Sharon Nesmith, the deputy chief of the general staff, said in
an interview that “just because we have lots of rank structure, doesn’t
mean to say that we have to behave in a hierarchical way”
She wants to make the armed forces more diverse by lowering standards .
The Russians must be terrified
finally just in case Grizz needs a BP boost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyFYVFh-JY0
illiterate coppers what could possibly go wrong………..
Dame Sharon and Sir Keir both need to experience the heat of battle.
They need to experience the rough end of the consequences of their policies.
At least the offender in court could say that he wasn’t read his rights.
My local rag has just released a picture of the man wanted for stealing a car and killing someone by dangerous driving. I’m amazed, because the wanted man is blek.
But …. but ….. wot about his human rights?
Everything is carried out off the cuff.
Evelyn Hall.
It’s as though they have a blueprint for effing everything up and they are following it to the letter!
Well, chums, I’ll now wish you an early night. I had a good day(almost finishing my jigsaw puzzle), but I can’t do any more now in artificial light until around daylight at 7.30 am tomorrow, so I will watch a little more of the remastered version of Ken Burns’ THE (USA) CIVIL WAR which I ordered from Amazon and which arrived yesterday. It’s a great way to learn the basics of this major USA Civil War.
Are you going to make a picture and frame your jigsaw puzzle to hang on the wall? My cousin did this, and it looked magnificent.
Beaufighters of No 144 Squadron flying low over the North Sea on their way back to Dallachy after a strike, March 1944. Note the empty RP3 rocket rails under each wing.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4520318f7552acdc61d18b0ba3e650715075f7b87815530ec8ccc78937d6d997.jpg
The Whispering Death – as someone I know, who became deaf from service in Beaus, pointed out, if they think that’s a whisper they must be stone deaf.
Evening, all.Britain’s GP service is struggling because a) we haven’t trained enough people, b) they have massively increased the population entitled to service (whether they’ve paid in or not) and c) GPs are being paid for the numbers on their books rather than the numbers of patients they treat. Covid-con didn’t help because it gave them an excuse not to bother with troublesome sick people.
Yo, ma homies!
I have been reading about the Ben Shapiro “rap” song and have been a bit curious, mainly because I don’t really know who Ben Shapiro is (something to do with the Daily Wire) and because the Babylon Bee put out a video with “missing verses” (and it’s hard to see the humour if you don’t know the original).
So tonight I sought it out and it’s got quite a catchy chorus:
“ This ain’t rap, this ain’t money, cars, and clothes
We ain’t selling drugs, we ain’t gonna overdose
We ain’t pushing guns, ain’t promoting stripper poles
We won’t turn your sons into thugs or your daughters into hoes
I don’t care if I offend you
I was put here to upset you
You can cry and you can scream, you can riot in the streets
You defunded the police, now there’s no one to protect you
I hope I offend you
I ask myself, “What would Ben do?”
Let’s just keep it real, facts don’t care how you feel, man
If you want my pronouns, I’m the man, I’m the man who don’t respect you”.
To be fair, the “rapping” is mainly done by a hWhite rapper name of Tom MacDonald and speaking as a parent I have to say I’m sure he’s a lovely person but I wouldn’t be overjoyed if my daughter brought him home. But, as they say in the circles (I think?) – Respect. I am going to test a few more of his “songs” out, to keep myself Dahn. Wi’ da Youf.
https://twitter.com/MityaAreskin/status/1759289201890050273
Where is the church militant?
And that’s me off to bed.
At least I got the Hollybush stack finished today!
G’night all!
Good night, BoB.
Goodnight and God bless, Gentlefolk.
Good night, Tom.
Sorry but I’m not, poppiesmum. I already have enough more than enough framed pictures and not enough wall space for that. I shall take a photo of the completed jigsaw (I will try to see if I can post it on this site if anyone can give me some advice) and then break up the jigsaw before returning the pieces to the original original plastic bag which will sit in its box.
383590+ up ticks,
Pillow ponder,
A brace of right Sirs, if ever,
https://x.com/Duffmanohhhhyea/status/1759190457127453020?s=20
383590+ up ticks,
Brace of @rseholes caught in
courting mode.
https://x.com/johnthe92611772/status/1759266887878238704?s=20
Goodnight, all. I’m going to be sleeping downstairs with Oscar tonight. I don’t want him to be alone.
Prayers for Oscar Conners,I’m sure you’ll do the right thing (:^((
Give him a hug from me.
…and from me, Connors.
And from me too. Assuming that you have carefully made your decision, please don’t let your tears betray you, for Oscar’s sake. Keep smiling and cheerful as if this is just another visit to the vet to relieve his pain. Save your tears for after the deed is done. My thoughts are with you, Conners.
Bless you both, Conway, and Kadi. Have a peaceful night and hope tomorrow brings peace.
Hear, hear, Sue
Dear Lord, please welcome our canine friend, Oscar, into your communion. He has been headstrong in the past but with devout and careful training, he has learned who’s who and now, at the end of his life he is a model dog and pet.
Amen.
Good morning, all – Monday’s new page is here.
‘ Morning, Geoff and thank you.
Good morning Geoff and thank you.