Sunday 29 June: Beware calls to change British justice in the wake of the Lucy Connolly case

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  3. Good morning all.
    A dull but still dry 21°C this morning.
    The DT is off work until Wednesday so is dragging me up to Barnard Castle this morning for a couple of nights and is planning to meet up with Dr. Daughter on Tuesday before we head home. Dr.D is, apparently, at a Royal College of Ophthalmology conference in Brighton at the moment.

    Looks like Glastonbury has turned into the Glastenburg Rally:- https://x.com/lucymarionbrown/status/1938984113907650602 https://x.com/lucymarionbrown/status/1939016821220524520 Sick.

    1. A shame on Britain. For the first time in my life I'm no longer proud to be British.
      Not in my name.

      1. And It looks like we might be in need of our own version of the IDF very soon. BDF. But realistically that would never happen, Roll Over and Give Way is now seemingly the best way to avoid confrontation.

    4. These people are ignorant morons. They’re just joining in coz they’re all together. Herd mentality.

    5. These people are ignorant morons. They’re just joining in coz they’re all together. Herd mentality.

    6. Ignorant animal. His mind is even uglier than he is – and that's saying something!

    7. Broadcast live by the BBC. Authorised by the 'Brotherhood of Hamas' and 'River to the Sea' departments and paid for by the licence payers and British taxpayers.

    8. Reported a hate crime. lol – we all know nothing will come of this.

  4. Good morning all.
    A dull but still dry 21°C this morning.
    The DT is off work until Wednesday so is dragging me up to Barnard Castle this morning for a couple of nights and is planning to meet up with Dr. Daughter on Tuesday before we head home. Dr.D is, apparently, at a Royal College of Ophthalmology conference in Brighton at the moment.

    Looks like Glastonbury has turned into the Glastenburg Rally:- https://x.com/lucymarionbrown/status/1938984113907650602 https://x.com/lucymarionbrown/status/1939016821220524520 Sick.

  5. 'Morning All
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    2. Unpleasant to say the least, but purely performative. Nobody in the IDF will suffer so much as a hang-nail as a result of this.

      1. Just like the Nuremburg rallies I suppose.
        Hitler gave a great performance the crowds loved it.

      2. A rabble, roused, will often charge out and attack and the target can't be the IDF, but it can be a synagogue or a Jewish school.

          1. I wonder how many Jews attended Glastonbury yesterday.
            I bet they really enjoyed the experience.

    3. Ignorant morons. Herd mentality. The one on stage leading the chants should be arrested.

      2. I have just reported it as a hate crime.

        Well – if we have “legislation” we should use it,

    4. Loads of apologists saying that the IDF are committing war crimes so that's fine as the chant didn't apply to all Jews! I despair of this country.

  11. Good morning, all. Sun = elsewhere; heatwave = elsewhere. Grey and dreary = here.

    1. Same here Bill.
      Things can only get better when the weather experts have waved their arms around ont Telly.

  13. Right, that's the DT ready, so logging off and buggering off to Barnard Castle via a roundabout route!.
    TTFN.

    2. Nice little town, a bit hilly if I remember correctly. Not far from where one of my nephew's and his family live. Rookhope.

    1. 408508+ up ticks,

      O2O,

      Good question,
      Debbie's Thoughts. 😊🤗
      @debbiebarnes66
      ·
      10h
      Just to check..
      We can wish death on
      Jewish people, but can't
      use hurtful words towards
      Muslims?
      Is that where we are now? 🤔

    1. We've warmed up to 15.5C outside, despite the bright sunshine but cool wind.
      Good drying weather, so we're given yellow warnings about forest fires.

  16. From https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/bbc-backlash-glastonbury-idf-broadcast-b1235405.html

    Bob Vylan’s performance, which was shown live and uncensored on BBC iPlayer, prompted an immediate backlash, with some viewers accusing the band and broadcaster of spreading "hateful rhetoric”.

    TOPSHOT-ISRAEL-PALESTINIAN-CONFLICT-FESTIVAL
    Abandoned and torched vehicles at Nova music festival after the October 7 massacre
    AFP via Getty Images
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    It also came less than two years after the October 7 massacre, when more than 1,200 people were murdered across southern Israel and 251 were taken hostage, including revellers from the Nova music festival.

    But, I guess that's perfectly ok to the Nazis at Glastonbury. No problem.

          1. Is there a difference between writing a comment in your home and broadcasting the comment on social media as opposed to making comments whilst performing to both a live and broadcast audience?

            Remember, we are living in a two-tier legal system. No longer, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

      2. Morning, Belle.
        Saw that last night. Looks like Plodspeak for kicking the can down the road.

    2. https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/bbc-backlash-glastonbury-idf-broadcast-b1235405.html#comments-area
      Fascinating how the comemnts below the article are mainly in support of terrorist action, either directly or by spreading propaganda. Those few that try to say it like it is, get thumbs down.
      Antisemitism is rife in the UK, it seems, and since the BBC didn't block the act at Glasto, approved of by the authorities.
      I despair. What is wrong with folk?

      1. Gandhi best expressed it as "an eye for an eye, and the whole world is blind".

        1. Certain ground birds which had no natural predators in some Antipodean islands became extinct when cats were introduced.

          With no defences they could not defend themselves.

          If the State of Israel cannot defend itself against a rabid anti-Semitism determined to exterminate all Jewish people along with the Jewish state then, presumably, the apologists for Hamas would happily see the Jews suffer the same fate as Antipodean ground birds?

          1. MB and I have a soft spot for the Kakapo; silly name and a bumbling, clumsy bird. Not very bright, either. But there is something very endearing about them.

            New Zealand's quirky kākāpō are pulled back from the edge of extinction
            By Tammana Begum

            Kākāpō are large, ground-dwelling, flightless parrots that were once widespread across New Zealand but hunted to near extinction. Thanks to highly specialised conservation efforts, these unique birds are slowly bouncing back.
            What makes kākāpō so unique?
            Kākāpō are unusual creatures for many reasons. They are the heaviest living species of parrot in the world, weighing up to four kilogrammes.
            They are also the only living species of parrot that cannot fly. Instead, they have strong legs for travelling several kilometres a day. They are also excellent climbers and can leap off tall trees, using their wings for balance.
            As an island species, they originally had few avian predators which hunted during the day. Kākāpō evolved forest coloured plumage for camouflage and, when faced with a threat, they freeze, making it difficult for predators to spot them from above.
            Kākāpō are nocturnal, which is how they got their name: it means 'night parrot' in Māori.
            Andrew Digby, a conservation biologist at the Department of Conservation in New Zealand, says, 'Kākāpō don't come across like birds – they're more like mammals, maybe like badgers.
            'Our team have been working with the same individual birds for over 40 years, which is really special.
            'Kākāpō have definite personalities which you get to see when you work with them regularly. We know which ones we'll have to chase because they often run, and which ones are noisy and may shout at you a lot. Some are really friendly and will approach you.'

            Adult kākāpō are generally solitary creatures and only meet to mate every two to four years with the mass-fruiting of rimu tree fruit. These berries are rich in vitamin D and calcium, which are essential for laying eggs and growing chicks. When in season, kākāpō will feed exclusively on them.
            Kākāpō are one of the longest-living birds – they may live up to 90 years in the wild. They once thrived in the many varied climates and habitats of New Zealand, from the dry, hot summers in the north to the subalpine Fiordland in the south.
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          3. Projection much, I fear. At least Jews went into exile when they could get away, and return when it was safe to do so. Palestinians are coralled in their ghettos and chased and shot at as they run around from so-called “safe space” to so-called “safe space”, in much the same manner as your ground birds when played with by cats. All Hamas can do is to take revenge, but they don’t do that very well, and even less well do they protect Palestinians from attack.

            As for your presumption, it is a lie both that I am an apologist for Hamas and that I would happily see Jews suffer. Nobody should be treated like this.

      2. People are stupid. Never forget 50% of people are under average-intelligence IQ.

        We are self-selecting, but our average IQs are probably in the top 10%. Which means 90% of people are more stupid than us.

    3. They say Americans cannot do irony, but the British are rather good at it.

  17. I cannot see rugby on telly – so I rely on press reports. I notice that the ever obnoxious old bore Stephen Jones gives the promising English newcomer Pollock a good kicking. He has replaced Smith in Jones's firing line.

  18. A proper good morning ,

    Dull and overcast and blissfully cool .

    Moh has a bird app on his phone called Merlin .. identifies bird calls .

    We have a wonderful selection of visiting birds in the garden , one in particular has a beautiful call . A Black Cap, still calling in the hedgerow in our garden .

    Found this link on the web to pass on to you.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKPhFPTyxpI

    2. I have the app, Maggie. Interesting to hear in the forest birds I haven't seen in years, Such as Chaffinch and Goldcrest.

  19. Morning All 🙂😊
    Grey again and cooler, I'm sure it will clear and heat up later.
    Slept right through after our lovely neighbours and their guests, came home after their trip to the local or a restaurant. I'm not complaining, they are lovely people, the problem is with having all of our windows open. 🤗
    British justice only seems to be applicable for peiople of British citizenship. Everyone else gets away with anything they want.

    1. Good morning Ready Eddy and everyone.
      That is an age old problem with itinerant people, anywhere people, nomads; they can mess up the locality, wave two fingers and return whence they came.

    2. Good morning Eddy

      The problem with leaving all the windows open , every sound travels , snorts , grunts , shuffling , security lights flashing on and off .

      This morning the cat who is frequently absent (not our cat , but considers us her second home)

      We have a ground floor bedroom where son sleeps , apparently the cat appeared to have jumped through his window.. Son got up this morning to find the cat paying special attention to the underneath space of the hall table .. the bottom shelf has a selection of vases and ceramic pots .. cat was annoying son by pawing and rattling everything .

      He concluded as did we that there was a mouse seeking safety underneath the table .

      So what next , shooed cat and dog away , three of us , son with towel in hand , Moh and I shifted the table , and there was the sweetest cowering shivering little beastie , son popped the towel over the top of it, and then released it … yes into the garden .

      Dear readers do not scream and shout alternative methods of dispatch or release .. but the thought of the cat jumping through the window with a live mouse is shudderingly terrible!

      1. Jessie, our younger cat, has occasionally brought in a live mouse. It's a devil of a job to catch them, so well done son.

        1. We have had cats, and one Sunday after the night before I was laying down on the sofa after reading the paper.
          I must have dozed off, the Sunday paper had slipped onto the floor, it started to move……
          I discovered that the cat had brought in a frog from the garden.

          1. We had two kittens in 2002 – one Saturday morning when they were half grown I found a bloody mess on the kitchen floor. It was a frog. I put it on a plastic meat tray out of the reach of the cats. My OH came home from work and I was quite upset and met him at the gate. “They’ve killed our frog”. Anyway he put it on the windowsill in the tray while he got changed. Suddenly it started to move one leg and then another. He put it on the edge of the pond and it plopped back in.

      2. We did find a cat in one of our front bedrooms a few years ago. It had somehow lept from the top of the boundary fence onto the lower part of the roof slope and sneaked in through the open sash window.
        I thought of bringing the dog upstairs to sort it out. But the cat has been living in France now, for a long time..

      3. My cat hasn't brought in a mouse for a long time but used to regularly.
        When she was mu ch much younger it did amuse me that she would bring me a twig every morning. There was always a collection in the hallway when I got up.

        1. I have noticed that when I get home and release Winston from his crate, he rushes and grabs a bone to bring me.

  20. Good Morning!

    For the last three days FSB's been running articles on the psychological war the Establishment is waging on us, so today we turn to the psychopathic war they are inflicting on us, in the form the psychopathic sociopath and globalist zealot of an Attorney General, wee Dickie Hermer. Read Lord Hermer: The Globalist Fanatic at the Heart of Britain’s Two-Tier Justice Scandal and let us know what you think of him. Don't hold back.

    The articles on the psychological war are Xandra H's You have to be in it to win it! , Mrs M Ducks' The Infantilisation of the Modern Mind and the fourth part in our series No War With Russia! The Weapons of Mass Persuasion .

    Energy Watch: Over the last 24 hours: Britain's electric power was sourced from Gas, 13.5%; Solar, 9.4%: Wind 47.2%; Imports, 6.7%; Biomass, 4.2%; Nuclear 16.4% and Miscellaneous, 2.7%.

    freespeechbacklash.com

    1. My electricity bill so far this month is £13.62, of which £2.15 is power, the rest is Standing Charge

      1. Morning OLT,
        My latest electricity bill (17 May to 16 June) was £16.09 (day) and £6.97 (night), with a Standing Charge of £16.58, making a total of £41.62. But then Octopus paid me £138.72 for the 924.8kWh of electricity that I had exported from my solar panels. So the result was on overall credit of £97.10p. Pity that works only from March to September when it’s relatively sunny.

        A thought occurred to me as a 40% taxpayer. If I had had no solar panels and I needed to pay Octopus for all my electricity, the money I would have paid them would have been from TAXED income, making it even worse.

        1. I pay £35 a month DD for my electricity (most of which is standing charge) and I'm £200 in credit, I also get just short of £700 a year from my solar panels, the cost of which was recouped 2 years ago

  21. From https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg5xzpmxzgo
    The Great Jihad against animal fats resulted in manufactured food recipes being tweaked to remove said fats and replace them with vegetable oils, remove salt, and replace it with sugars – how else will the food taste of anything? Surprise, surprise, with all that veggie and sugar, folk got fatter – not helped by Ipads making sofa surfing more attractive and exercise less so.
    A return to animal fats (as advocated by Firstborn and Grizz, amongst others) would go a long way towards reducing obesity.

    1. One of the panelists on GBN with Patrick Christys last night said that he’s now 10st lighter than he used to be and he achieved it purely by cutting out carbs.

  22. About ten years ago, there was a wonderful organic restaurant in the next village attached to an arts-and-crafts centre founded by Green enthusiast Will Tooby and his delightful Indian wife, a classically trained dancer. They served this wonderful roast Sunday lunch – organically reared local lamb, with organic vegetables mostly grown on the premises or nearby. It was was well worth the premium price, and left me for once feeling fit and healthy after a meal, rather than a little sick and desperate to lie down and recover.

    Then there was a change of culture, and the vegans took over. Now, it's a choice of salad or sweet potato soup, for much the same price, and I no longer feel I am getting a nourishing meal, so have stopped going.

    Herefordshire (where I used to live and now boasts a Green MP) is a pastoral county, famous for its beef cattle. The dairy farm next to me scaled down on milk production (because after the big corporates took over from the Milk Marketing Board, prices paid to farmers plummeted in order to maintain market bonuses for top managers, who would otherwise slink off to America with their aspirations). Instead, he went arable. Unlike Lincolnshire, Herefordshire farmland requires a lot of inputs – fertiliser and pesticide – to make crops viable, so the air became a fug of Roundup and the rivers turned green with algal bloom. The stockproof hedgerows were just in the way of their machinery and had to go.

    Frankly, as an environmentalist myself, I prefer there to be livestock on the land, even if this means I have to eat roast lamb on a Sunday.

      1. So much is based on American culture, American practice and American values. I once read a recipe book my girlfriend got hold of, based on the goodness of sprouts, but it was an American publication, and spouts there are bean shoots, not Brussels sprouts. We often used to joke about her sprout curry and how it contributed to energy security, reducing reliance on the North Sea.

        They legislate out the traditional British mixed farming methods because they don’t comply with what they have learnt in order to qualify. Only the bolshie French peasant holds out because they are by nature chauvinists and proud of it.

        1. I think there is a big gap across western Europe between vegan city dwellers and meat-eating country people. Obv a lot of overlap but I’ve yet to meet a vegan farmer.

          1. Pete Mond, (aka Lord Melchett), farmer, vegan, all-round pain-in-the-arse. He's dead now.

  23. Just watching BBC news and reports from Glasto by several journos, interviewing members of the audience .. lots of middle aged fans, loads of not so young youngsters , and many who must have so much money , they just need to be there .

    My theory is , that all those with money to burn on pleasure, whether festivals, holidays , weekends away, extreme sports , cruises etc etc probably are responsible for not having babies unless by accident .. I reckon childhood is extended through self gratification , pleasure , emotional highs etc.

    I know young children are catered for at many festivals, including the Bestival held here in July/ August , but you know about the downfall of Rome whilst everyone feasted and enjoyed themselves ..

    The moral imperative is not very impressive .

    1. People will spend their money as they wish. These festivals would not be my choice but I indulge in trips to see wildlife.

      1. Of course , yes, but I was talking about the likes of bods like us , we have done the deed .

        When I was a student , I didn't have money to splash around neither did we when we got married , and were financially stuffed in the seventies . and then comes assisting elderly in laws , and helping with care home finances , yes , people have no idea what is ahead of them .

        2. Our sons learnt double standards very early on in life. Don't actually lie; just don't volunteer information.
          The late Auntie Agnes would ask MB "You are still saving, aren't you, William?"
          Two sprogs would sit very still – practically bursting – not daring to mention the latest frivolous purchase (which could include items such as an antique kettle or a bearded dragon.)

          1. My whole life has been spent in dread of debt. My parents were in the red until their late 60s. I strove always not to buy unless I had the money; or only to buy essentials – eg: washing machine – on HP which was to be paid off pronto.

            A mortgage was needed to buy my first house – but that, again, was to be paid off as quickly as possible. By the time I was 43, I was completely debt free – thank God. But the fear still lurks

          2. In those days we didn't have credit or debit cards, which made it easier to keep track of expenditure.
            A flip through cheque book stubs could be very "triggering".
            I was refused HP when the boys were small unless MB signed the papers.

          4. I was refused permission to join the mobile library which called down the village street where we lived when I was first married. Although a married woman – I had to get my husband's signature as I was under 21 (just).

          5. If a woman worked for a bank, she had to leave when she got married.
            A sweetener of £200 was given to the blushing bride.

          6. Teachers too, I believe. But my primary school teachers were married women so I don’t know when that stopped.

          7. My first job after leaving school was with a bank in Johannesburg in the 70s. Had I wished to marry, I would have had to get approval from my manager or find alternative employment.

          8. When I first joined the RAF as an apprentice we had to get permission, signed by parents, to smoke and even later permission to marry – I don't think that applies now

          9. Jill had to leave work once she became visibly pregnant with our first. Quite normal back then.

          11. I used to work miracles with a pound of mince.
            MB is still here and both sons are over 6ft tall, so must have got something right.
            (I can feel a 4 Yorkshire women moment coming over me.)

          12. My mother (a widow) applied for a grant for my school uniform when I was 11. She was refused because they didn't want to know what her income was but how much she was in debt. (she was solvent). She had no debts but she did sell a few items of family silver to make ends meet.

          13. My late son was a "cash only" person. He never bought anything unless he could afford it. Had no cards of any kind. Was refused a mortgage BECAUSE he had no credit card! So he acquired one but never used it. Then the mortgage was approved…!

            Funny old world.

          14. I had to remortgage the house to pay off my first husband as part of the divorce settlement. But we paid off the mortgage on this house as soon as we could. I paid off the last chunk when an endowment policy matured.

          15. Me too. I paid 4/5ths of the cost of the house, and then had to buy it back again when we divorced (thank goodness I didn't pay anywhere near 1/2, which was what my ex was angling for). Best thing I ever did was to convert the mortgage to interest only, and still pay the same amount as if it was still a repayment mortgage.

          16. This is why student loans imposing usurious rates of interest and which are impossible ever to repay are evil.

            Student Loans should be repaid in full BUT they should be interest free as they are in many countries more civilised than UK.

            Young people should be expected to pay off their loans as soon as possible. When they start earning they should be able to charge what they repay against their taxable income. Employers should also be given tax advantages to help their employees repay their loans.

            Caroline and I both had our university education paid for by our parents so we did not start our working lives in debt. For us it was an absolute priority for us to ensure that both our sons were able to leave university debt free as we had done.

            One of the consequences of this is that both our sons were able to buy their own first homes (with mortgages they could afford) in their mid 20s.

          17. My two sons both had small loans which they paid off very quickly. My elder son was 25 when he bought the house he still lives in. The younger one in Switzerland has only just bought his house there.

          19. You were very fortunate. Our grandson, First Class Honours degree in Pharmacy, is in debt to the tune of approximately £60,000. It’s pretty disgraceful and an enormous burden. Goodness knows how he’ll pay it off.

          20. I knew someone who wasn't working and enrolled as a mature student. He reckoned that with the loan he could live a reasonable life, and would never earn enough after his degree to have to repay it. He was right, as he then reached pension age…

          21. I've always been afraid of debt too. Some years ago, I worked with a chap who was 29 and had a credit card debt of £30K+.

            I don't know how he slept at night. Actually, he didn't. He used to spend most nights driving around the M25 and lived on service station food. He was enormous too – about 30st but the last time I saw him he had dropped down to about 14st. He was nominated for slimmer of the year but was disqualified because he had lost more weight in a year than was deemed advisable.

            A year later I heard he had died. V sad.

          22. Me too Bill, when I came out of the RAF I was homeless, penniless and jobless, within 14 years I owned my own house and had a healthy bank balance. I have that fear of being penniless again so I'm careful and the hobby of stashing/saving has never left me – I even have a years stock of food and probably 5 years of wood for the woodburner
            Any credit card balance is paid off automatically every month – I hate being in debt to anyone

      2. Yo Nd

        "I indulge in trips to see wildlife"

        Sounds as though you should have been at Glastonbury then

          1. To see these?
            These days, Stoke Newington is very multicultural, with large Asian, Irish, Turkish, Jewish and Afro-Caribbean communities. The area continues to be home to many new and emerging communities, such as Polish and Somali immigrants. Wiki

      3. We used to enjoy the Cambridge Folk Festival; for one day, not hot, sweaty camping over an entire weekend.
        I would like to go to Latitude, but MB's health would mean I was a nurse rather than out there enjoying myself.

    2. Some posts about the offence caused by some acts, eg a rapper 'Def to the IDF' etc.

  24. We don't really mind, it's just a natural reaction, a tad annoying.
    I'll have a pop at them if I see them later 😄😀

  25. Yo and Good Moaning all, from a dull (weatherwise) but warm C d S

    Taking car back to the shop today: alrm went off last night and nowhere were ther instructions on how to stop it.
    Checked the manual, internet and even phoned someone with a similar beast. We did stop it eventually, but do not know how
    (could have been by kicking the front RH,or rear LH wheel)

    The spooky thing is the Disco alarm went off last week and an alarm in a house just up the road

    2. When that happens on my very old Disco I use the fob to unlock and the relock the car. That generally stops the alarm.
      If it repeats it usually means something isn't properly shut, tailgate/door/bonnet.
      Open and shut all the doors and the tailgate and relock.
      So far, touch wood, it's worked every time.

    3. The Noddy car is not alarmed (occasionally a trifle put out). Poor little thing isn't worth nicking and I never leave my tiara on the back shelf.

      2. What about Straight Pride?

        Would homosexuals consider that, because they are a minority, Straight Pride discriminates against them because minorities are always discriminated against!

        Most of us are heterosexual but it is no big deal so we don't need multi-coloured flags and rainbows Perhaps instead of Straight Pride we need Straight Modesty.

        1. We already have straight modesty. As you say, it's no big deal and nothing to be "proud" about – just like homosexuality isn't either. But there do seem to be some w*nkers in the pride lot.

    3. "Oh dear. How sad. Never mind."
      Sez the majority of gays who just wish to get on with their lives.

    4. Thanks Korky. The good rev. always worth the read. (Don't think the £600k found yet..?.)

  27. Just had a quick chat with our number 3 in Dubai. Very hot and humid there. He showed me a lovely view of the marina his apartment overlooks. No boat below yet…..

  28. Has obesity really doubled since the nineties, or has it been redefined? Asking for a fat friend.

    1. I honestly think it HAS. Two weeks ago in yer France, we were appalled at the number of fat French people waddling about. And the same again here in Blighty. One begins to notice a normal sized person and wonder if he is ill!

      Years ago, there was a cartoon of a person explaining Billy Bunter. "Bunter was a normal sized boy at a school of incredibly emaciated boys"…..

      1. Back in the1950s, when Colchester was a moderately sized market town, there was a family of obese women; a mother and two daughters. The usual hordes of children and the occasional scrawny male attached to the entourage.
        I remember them because they were such an unusual sight.

      2. At our school there was only one fat pupil – a boy. We had lived through rationing though. It ended in 1954.

    2. Cutting down on carbs/amounts of food consumed generally incl sugary drinks, is one answer. Eat less, move more….

    3. If you’re going by BMI then, unless you’re average , whatever that is, it’s likely you are not obese. I am 6’5” and weigh 107 kilos. According my to my medical record I am obese. However I spoke to my doctor about that who told me it only applies to ‘average’ people. One you exceed a certain height it’s a load of Tommy rot. No doubt similar applies if you’re very small.

  29. Telling us we can't have our country back is, I suppose tacit agreement that it's ours and not his.

  30. Why I don’t trust Censuses (sorry this is a bit long)

    The Government appear to have U-turned on an earlier decision not to hold a Census in 2031, but instead to use data hoovered from other sources. So there may be another ‘classical’ Census, similar to earlier years, except that 2011 and 2021 were done on-line (groan!).

    I have been a keen Family Historian for over 45 years and when compiling my own Family Tree I had cause to visit the 1911 Census to look up my mother-in-law, born in 1908 in south Wales.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0aba6777bc08af664d1b10e3d381d62a6be78ab930c7646f7fdf222144811065.jpg
    The image shows how her father, Reginald Millard (a coal-miner who had moved from Somerset to look for work) had filled in his Census form. His eldest daughter, my mother-in-law, Edna Florence, was born on 14 April 1908, so she was almost 3 years old on 2 April 1911. Her younger sister Winifred was born on 3 March 1910 and so was 1. There was a fair amount of crossing-out on the form because these dates were close to April 2nd.

    But when the 1911 Census was published by the Public Records Office, their ages in the manuscript entry had been transcribed as 33 and 42 years, despite their being the daughters of a 26-year-old mother!

    I attempted to have these entries corrected by filling in the appropriate data correction forms on-line but was refused. So anyone who is researching the family in the distant future may be staggered that (a) a 26-year old mother gave birth to 33 and 42-year old daughters and (b) that my mother-in-law, allegedly born in 1878, should have given birth to my wife in 1941 at the age of almost 63.

    After my mother died in 1993 my father was looking for something to do and was accepted as a Census Enumerator/Checker for the 2001 Census, which was still paper-based. He lived near Axminster in Devon, a region not known for a large ethnically-diverse population. His task was to knock on a list of front doors to check compliance and offer help if needed. He was also required to revisit homes up to three times where there had been no response, then give up. He told of numerous occasions when no response was obtained (elderly, deaf occupants?)

    I would not fancy this task of Census-checking in an area like Newham or Tower Hamlets these days, even if I spoke fluent Urdu. I would imagine that a number of doors would not have been opened, or indeed slammed in my face.

    To check on percentage responses, I visited the Office for National Statistics website under ‘Maximising the quality of Census 2021 population estimates’ . Under the heading Census Coverage Survey (CCS) it said:

    We matched the CCS to collected census data using standard matching methods and used rigorous clerical checking to maximise the quality of data linkage. Using the matched data, we modelled how likely a given person or household was to respond to the census (or respond incorrectly in the case of over-coverage). We used this information to produce non-response and over-coverage weights, which were used to adjust counts in the collected data to produce a final estimated population total.

    For over-coverage, we estimate how likely someone is to have filled in the census twice, or to have been recorded at the wrong address. For example, a student being counted at their out-of-term address rather than their usual address. We also use census-to-census matching to identify the duplication rate more exactly, as census is larger than the CCS.

    Our target CCS interview rate was 90%,while the achieved rate was 61%. Although the estimation methods work best when response to both the census and CCS are high, they still work well when only one falls below its target response level. This is especially true when the census response is very high, which in this case it was.

    So there you have it. In large metropolitan areas, I would contend that under-reporting is very likely.

    1. Simon Webb (Hello again) tells the story of his experience as a data collector in the London area of Hackney during the census of 2001. This was not carried out online but verified by door knocking.
      Anyhow.. his anecdotal evidence concurred with the Food Dataset analysis of Food consumption in London suggesting the official population count was way off by 1 million.
      And that was in 2001.

      1. One could start with forcing people who claim benefits to prove they were on the latest census.
        No benefits for immigrants who haven't lived here for 10 years would be a good start too.

    2. Simon Webb (Hello again) tells the story of his experience as a data collector in the London area of Hackney during the census of 2001. This was not carried out online but verified by door knocking.
      Anyhow.. his anecdotal evidence concurred with the Food Dataset analysis of Food consumption in London suggesting the official population count was way off by 1 million.
      And that was in 2001.

    3. You do have to cross reference census results with others from the times before or after and other things like electoral registers (though those didn't include women until much later). It's possible to build up the picture if you don't take any one source as the gospel.

      1. Ndovu, don't I know it.

        It's ESSENTIAL to have more than one reference before believing a piece of fundamental ancestral information. My Great Grandmother's surname was variously spelled Gaitor, Gater, Gaiter, Gatter. Many were illiterate in those Victorian days.

        My maternal grandfather, born 1872, never went to school, so was both illegitimate and illiterate. And the first child, born on 7 November 1891 after a 12 May 1891 wedding, astonishingly survived being born at fewer than 6 months of gestational age </sarc>.

        1. In The 1780s there was a racehorse called Potoooooooo.
          The stable lad didn't know how to spell potato

    4. You do have to cross reference census results with others from the times before or after and other things like electoral registers (though those didn't include women until much later). It's possible to build up the picture if you don't take any one source as the gospel.

  31. IT'S ALL OUR FAULT.

    Chapter 571:
    "Professor Spikins says: 'If Neanderthals had been the ones to survive, we might not have the problem we have with climate change, as their tendency to be more isolated within their separate groups might have limited how technology spread and got used, and how much the environment got exploited.'"

    Meet the ancestors ASDa customers.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14851107/Scientists-reveal-Neanderthals-Denisovans-today.html

    1. I've seen a few of those around……….. they're in government now. Look at our Foreign Secretary………..

      2. I've seen them selling bunches of heather.
        And driving lorries full of "scrap" metal.

  33. After the Glasto spectacle of
    Bob Vylan's This Country Was Built on the Backs of Immigrants LOL
    Bob Vylan's 'Heard you want your country back? Kill the Boer, kill the farmer brrrril pah'

    I strongly suggest you strive to keep Sir Keir at the helm of Labour for as long as possible.
    Next in line is Mark Rayner. He's the real deal hard Leftie currently in possession of the family brain cell.
    He really will kill the farmer 'brrrril pah'. Kill the private schools 'brrrril pah'. Kill the private sector 'brrrril pah'.

      1. They are apparently a duo! As they also chanted "Kill the IDF" several times, I assume they will soon be arrested, tried in record time and jailed for 31 months for incitement to violence?? If not, why not? [rhetorical!!]

  36. I have a credit card but seldom use it – mainly if buy airline tickets – then I pay it off in full.

      1. I do too. But credit cards can give you a bit of consumer protection.

        Example: I got taken in a couple of years ago and ordered a gadget. i paid with the credit card. I wasn’t much – in fact it was free but you paid for postage from America. The gadget wasn’t what I wanted so I sent it back. Then two more much larger items appeared on the credit card account from the American company. Nothing that I had ordered or wanted. Barclaycard very promptly cancelled those as fraudulent and also refunded the original amount of postage which I had paid. So I do use it infrequently for some things.

    2. Items over a hundred pounds. Which usually means dull stuff like replacing the washing machine.

    4. My sort of woman! Thanks – it was great to read a little about her. (I'd heard the name.but nothing more.)

  38. Hard work this one. First ten letters blank:
    Wordle 1,471 5/6

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    1. For once I guessed right. I got a bit fed up with getting four letters right and keeping on missing the fifth, so I stopped doing these – I onlyu do them very sporadically now. Perhaps thatr helped!

      Wordle 1,471 3/6

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  39. Good morning (just) chums. And thanks, Geoff, for today's new NoTTLe page. I did today's Wordle in 5 attempts ( a Bogey).

    Wordle 1,471 5/6

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  40. What about this Nottlers, because I'm seated rather more often than I should be, my wife a local library volunteer brought me a recent popular paper back home. It's been featured on bbc 2's Between the Covers.
    One well know tv personality states that they read it all in one session. At over 420 pages that is quite an achievement. I estimate around 12 -15 hours. How would that be possible ?
    The print would just be a blurr. Let alone the story line.

    3. When I was younger, I could read an exciting novel on a Saturday after lunch through to bedtime.

    4. I can read a "normal size" book in an evening. Soemtimes it means I get to bed late. Always been a quick reader. Part of that is learning to skim over some of the "padding" that authors seemingly adore.

      1. Yep. Me too. Very fast reader.

        First time I read War and Peace, I was a teemager. I got so absorbed I forgot about going to bed, and my mother found me in the sitting room in the early hours. Bless her, she just made me breakfast and reminded me to go to the loo. 🤣 Technically I finished it in one session.

  41. But …. but …. I thought private money was a no, no.
    "Dear Dr. Munaf.
    I'm sick of this government. I need a year off: actually, make that 4 years.
    AA"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/29/suspended-doctor-sick-notes-on-demand/

    The suspended doctor selling sick notes on demand

    ‘Rogue’ online service offers certificates for months off work with no medical tests or consultation

    29 June 2025 10:00am BST

    Asif Munaf was suspended from the medical register over anti-Semitic social media posts
    A suspended doctor is selling sick notes online to customers who want to go on holiday, take months off work for alleged Covid infection or care for an ill dog, The Telegraph can reveal.

    Asif Munaf, who was suspended from the medical register over anti-Semitic social media posts, runs Dr Sick Ltd, a company that offers same-day sick notes for as little as £29.

    Without any face-to-face or phone consultation, Telegraph reporters were able to obtain medical certificates granting five months off work for Covid, six weeks for anxiety over a sick pet, and four weeks of home working to enable them to go on holiday abroad.

    All three notes were issued within hours of the requests being made. A dossier of evidence has been shared with the General Medical Council (GMC), which regulates doctors, and the Care Quality Commission (CQC), the healthcare watchdog.

    The revelations are likely to reignite concern over Britain’s growing sick note culture. Workers took 148.9 million sick days last year, an 11 per cent rise on a decade ago. The surge prompted a crackdown by former prime minister Rishi Sunak, who proposed stripping GPs of the power to sign people off work amid fears the system is fuelling a productivity crisis.

    On Saturday, Helen Whately, the shadow work and pensions secretary, condemned the “rogue” Dr Sick Ltd as “a symptom of a deeper sickness in our welfare system”, and criticised Labour for scrapping the Tories’ planned fit note reforms.

    The former Conservative health minister said: “Sick notes to care for your dog or sunbathe in Malta signed off within hours, no ID, no checks, no link to the NHS. This rogue website is a symptom of a deeper sickness in our welfare system.

    “We need an end to the system where it is easier to get a sick note than a job. Labour scrapped our reforms to the fit note system, and now we are living with the consequences.

    “Too often, decisions are made without evidence, without scrutiny, and without consequence. Sick notes have become a pathway to permanent dependency, trapping the very people who need real help in a system that’s quietly given up on them.”

    Figures disclosed by the Department for Work and Pensions reveal that, as of November last year, almost 5.8 million people in England and Wales are claiming out-of-work benefits.

    Last week, Sir Keir Starmer was forced to water down plans to cut personal independence payments – financial support for disabled people – following an unprecedented rebellion from his own MPs.

    Mr Munaf, 37, a serial entrepreneur who has appeared on Dragon’s Den and The Apprentice, was dropped from the BBC spin-off The Apprentice: You’re Fired last February after describing Zionism as a “godless satanic cult” and Zionists as “odiously ogre-like” in posts on X.

    He was temporarily suspended by the GMC that same month. After a hearing in August 2024, the interim suspension was lifted and replaced with practice restrictions.

    Mr Munaf has continued to share anti-Semitic content online, including Holocaust denial and claims that 9/11 was “a Jewish job”. Last November, the GMC again imposed an interim suspension pending investigation.

    Posing as a supermarket worker with Covid, a Telegraph reporter was issued a sick note within four hours of completing Dr Sick Ltd’s online form, without being asked for proof of a positive test.

    Although the request was for two weeks off, the certificate granted five months. This appeared to contradict Dr Sick Ltd’s own policy stating that any leave longer than six weeks requires GP approval.

    For the second note, the reporter claimed to be a nursery teacher anxious about a dying pet. “I need to be home with my dog, especially as these are likely to be his last weeks,” they wrote. A certificate was issued within two hours granting six weeks’ leave for “significant distress following recent personal events”. The dog was not mentioned.

    The final request, made under the reporter’s real name, sought an “adjustment to work duties” to allow remote working while they took a Mediterranean holiday.

    “To be honest, I need this adjustment because I want to join my friends on holiday in Malta next month, but please don’t put that on the certificate,” they wrote.

    “I am confident I can perform my job working remotely for that week, and from home the other weeks. The office work and daily commute on the hot and sweaty tube has made me stressed and I will feel much better with some fresh air, a change of scenery, and more time at home.”

    That request was approved within an hour.

    “Having reviewed the medical history and current symptoms,” the certificate stated, “I have deemed them unfit for work in their current capacity.

    “This is due to significant stress and heat exhaustion with difficulty focusing from the recent hot weather which is impacting their ability to perform their duties. Accordingly, we have advised them to rest and recover by working from home to avoid the heat and humidity on the London Underground.”

    At no point was the reporter asked for ID, GP details or medical evidence. The only requirement was to write a sentence of more than 20 words describing their symptoms and requested dates of absence.

    All three certificates, branded with the Dr Sick logo, bore the name, GMC number and apparent signature of a GMC-registered doctor employed by a locum agency used by NHS trusts. When contacted by The Telegraph, the agency said their employee had denied working for Dr Sick Ltd or signing the documents.

    Mr Munaf did not respond when asked if this was true. The entrepreneur did say that he had no role in issuing the certificates himself, saying: “I don’t issue the medical notes – I run the business.”

    He claimed: “Dr Sick Ltd is an ICO-registered, UK-based digital service with a team of five fully GMC-registered UK doctors who issue fit notes in accordance with HIPAA-aligned guidelines”.

    It is understood the ICO, the data watchdog, has no record of Dr Sick Ltd’s registration. HIPAA is a US healthcare privacy law; it does not apply in the UK.

    Because he has been temporarily suspended by the GMC, Mr Munaf is prohibited by law from practising medicine or presenting himself as a medical doctor.

    The Medical Act 1983 states that a doctor subject to such an interim suspension order, “shall be treated as not being registered in the register” and that anyone who “wilfully and falsely pretends” to be a registered medical practitioner may be committing a criminal offence. This could include an individual using the “Dr” title to imply they are registered and fit to practise medicine.

    Until he was contacted by The Telegraph, the Dr Sick website advertised 40-minute “online medical consultations” with Mr Munaf for £150. A now-deleted webpage offered virtual appointments under the banner of “expert medical advice” from “fully registered doctors”.

    The booking app featured a “Dr Asif Munaf” logo with a stethoscope. In small print, he described himself as a “former doctor”.

    Screenshot of page on Dr Sick website selling consultations for £150
    The Dr Sick website advertised 40-minute ‘online medical consultations’ with ‘Dr Asif Munaf’ for £150
    He also continues to style himself as “Dr Asif Munaf” wearing hospital scrubs, a stethoscope, and listing his medical qualifications in promotional material across his online health ventures.

    Mr Munaf said: “Dr Sick doesn’t offer “medical consultations” – we offer medical certification from registered doctors. This is not a GP surgery, nor is it pretending to be. No stethoscopes, no pretending to be House MD here. As for my own consultations, these are heath and lifestle [sic] focused.”

    Trustpilot reviews for Dr Sick are mixed. Some praised the fast service and said employers accepted their notes. Others complained the certificates looked unprofessional.

    “The letter literally says ‘from dr sick’ on it. Who wants to send that to their boss,” wrote one reviewer. Another said: “It may come from genuine doctors, but it could not look more fake if they tried.”

    One user warned the service was open to abuse. “I feel this is out of order whereby you are providing sick notes to people who simply fill out a questionnaire. We could all go off sick by simply paying a small fee,” she wrote.

    Mr Munaf appears in online promotional material wearing hospital scrubs and a stethoscope
    Dr Sick Ltd is not alone in offering same-day sick notes to paying customers. One rival firm, charging as little as £29.49, claims its notes are “widely accepted by small and large employers alike” and boasts over 10,000 UK customers.

    Mr Munaf also runs AM Wellness Ltd, an “integrative health” clinic launched in 2022, offering medical consultations, full-body MRI scans for £1,688 to detect cancer, intra-venous (IV) nutrient infusions, weight loss injections, blood tests and genetic screening.

    He told The Telegraph he does not “administer anything medical” at the clinic. A GMC-registered GP joined as co-director last month.

    Despite offering a wide range of “treatment and diagnostic services”, AM Wellness Ltd is not registered with the CQC. Mr Munaf said this was “because we legally don’t need to be”.

    “The CQC themselves confirmed our business model doesn’t fall within their regulatory scope,” he added.

    A CQC spokesman referred The Telegraph to the list of “regulated activities” defined in regulations made under the Health and Social Care Act 2008.

    These include doctor consultations, diagnostics such as MRI and blood tests, genetic screening and treatments using IVs and weight loss drugs.

    “While we would not be able to make a speculative decision about particular providers, any provider wishing to carry out regulated activities is required to register with CQC to do so, this should be done before carrying out regulated activities,” the spokesman said.

    They added that anyone with concerns should contact the CQC, which “can and has” prosecuted unregistered providers."

    2. I sometimes use an online pharmacy. You fill in a form telling as many lies as you like as no checks are done. Then they will give you what you ask for plus a £25 fee.

      They are also registered with the CQC.

  44. 408508+ up ticks,

    Dt,

    Starmer faces fresh MP rebellion over
    farmers’ inheritance

    The Farmers Food and Freedom Party should should be built into the spearhead leading a rebellion against these political
    governing rodents and politically annihilate
    ALL of the starmer stance.

    In all honesty there is NO TIME to fool ourselves with waiting and having another General Election all we can fight for now is
    Damage control and salvaging what we can
    until we, via piecemeal, regain OUR Country.
    https://x.com/PWestoff/status/1938901732345426139

  45. I was away all day yesterday, Bill. Has your health problem finally resolved itself?

  46. We just use the joint account for household items like that – each stump up half from our own accounts.

  47. Not really – but I am putting a brave face on it – and not boring NoTTLers with any more info.

    Thanks for asking.

  49. SIR – I agree with Vic Storey. I find being called "guys" in restaurants very annoying. Once, when querying this, I was told it was company policy. No tips were given that night.

    I suggest restaurants implement a policy where diners on half of tables are called guys and the diners on the other half be called gals, sit back, and see what the actual guys think of that.

    1. I'm not that fussed how i am addressed. As long as they are quick with the G&T's.

    2. One of my big hates is when they ‘not a problem’ at the end of each sentence. I often say ‘and if there is what should I do’. The other one is ‘no worries’.

      3. "No worries" is an Aussie import. Calling everyone guys is a US import – been that way probably since we arrived in the 1970's.

      2. Who ever thought Marlon Brando could sing? He could.

        Bob Hope as the Lemon Drop Kid referred to the Nellie Thursday Home for Old Dolls.

  51. Beware calls to change British justice in the wake of the Lucy Connolly case

    The Prime Minister has painted himself into another corner with his two tier hate speech agenda, one rule for likes of Lucy Connelly for making spur of the moment posts on social media when traumatized after a tragic event and another for so called musicians at carefully staged and premeditated Nuremburg Rally style music festivals.
    The Left never ever wanted equality, they have always wanted supremacy for their agendas, nothing more, nothing less.

    1. Even on the Spectator today, Bob3. I was wondering what happened to those Ukrainian lads due to appear in court – was their case dismissed, perhaps?

      1. And those who broke a policewoman’s nose in Manchester airport, and the suspended MP who assaulted a constituent [let off already?] and the "slit their throats" man and ……

        1. Yes indeed, Wolfie…yes indeed…🤬…just about to watch Starkey, strap line is 'Reeves and Starmer finished' 🤞Update: worth a watch/listen, it's on YouTube.

    2. A grandfather jailed for violent disorder and abusing police at an anti-immigration riot this summer has become the first rioter to die in prison.

      Peter Lynch, 61, described as a conspiracy theorist at his court hearing, is believed to have taken his own life on Saturday night at HMP Moorland near Doncaster in south Yorkshire, according to prison service sources.

      Lynch was jailed for two years and eight months on Aug 22 after pleading guilty to violent disorder in a hearing at Sheffield Crown Court.

      The court was told Lynch went to the Holiday Inn Express in Manvers, Rotherham, on Aug 4 with a placard which called police officers, MPs and the media “corrupt”.

      Lynch shouted “racist and provocative remarks” towards officers and called asylum seekers in the hotel “child killers”, the Recorder of Sheffield, Judge Jeremy Richardson KC, told the court during his sentencing.

      His death in jail will now be investigated by the Prisons and Probation Ombudsman.

      A prison service spokesman said: “HMP Moorland prisoner Peter Lynch died on Oct 19 2024. As with all deaths in custody, the Prisons and Probation Ombudsman will investigate.”

      ‘Family man’
      “Family man” Lynch, who recently had a heart attack, had gone to protest at the hotel against immigration, his defence barrister told the hearing in August.

      He had “a general conspiracy theory against anyone and any form of authority”, and his placard referenced the “deep state” and space agency Nasa. Video played to the court showed Lynch “revving up” the situation before it turned violent, the Recorder said.

      He was filmed calling the police “scum”. His sign and protest was not unlawful, but his verbal abuse towards police officers during the “racist incident” crossed the line, the Recorder added.

      Lynch, of Burman Road, Wath-upon-Dearne, was a “full participant” in the disorder, the court was told. “You were unquestionably endeavouring to rev up the situation the best you could,” the Recorder added.

      Lynch’s placard stated that police chiefs, reporters, civil servants, judges and the Environment Agency were all “corrupt”.

      More than 1,511 arrests
      Police have made more than 1,511 arrests linked to the summer riots and, together with the Crown Prosecution Service, have brought around 1,000 charges.

      1. There's clearly a push for those protesting about criminal gimmigration, pointing out the paedophiles, rapists, murderers and thieves the Left are importing to plead guilty.

        Yet when it's the muslim savage, despite CCTV evidence they are told to plead not guilty. It's utterly vile and clearly two tier.

        1. He did die very soon after being incarcerated. The general assumption is that it was suicide. which is bad enough. What if it wasn't?

    1. I had several holidays as a child in a caravan in North Wales with an aunt and uncle and it always rained. Caravan in the middle of a field, no toilet. Those were the days!

      1. Me too! At the foot of Snowden 1966! Rain came in one end of the tent and out the other! Mum and Dad wouldn’t let us back in the caravan! Oh, how we larfed!🌧️

        1. I did my rock climbing instructor's course in Wales – on the first assessment day it threw it down; real water in the sleeves stuff!

          1. I think I’ve said before that Dad switched the windscreen wipers on at Scotch Corner, and switched them off 10 days later! It was hellish! Never saw Snowden, and watched the World Cup final therough the window of a TV shop in Pwhelli!

          2. You poor be-dwaggled soul, Sue 😊 🥰…at least you saw the game, did your team win? (hardly dare ask)…

          3. Oh yes! And we’ve never let anyone else forget it…..particularly the Scots! Well, so my husband tells me!

      2. Me too! At the foot of Snowden 1966! Rain came in one end of the tent and out the other! Mum and Dad wouldn’t let us back in the caravan! Oh, how we larfed!🌧️

    4. Lovely Scenery, twice in my younger days I've tried tour Wales. Twice had to give up because of the wet weather.

  53. Oi Laffed
    From Spiked:

    "…The hypocrisy of Glasto is stunning. ‘Open borders!’, they cry, while surrounded by a fence that the screws at Alcatraz would have envied. ‘No to racism!’, they yelp, while obsessively denouncing the world’s only Jewish nation. ‘Be kind!’, they cry, while raging against those uppity bitches who would rather not see a cock in their lockerrooms. Listen, if you want to do something truly rock’n’roll at Glasto, wave the Israel flag. Half the bourgeois farts in the audience would instantly drop dead from shock. The other half would be sprinting back to their yurts for a hemp tea and a lie down. Genderfluid posh kids would be blubbing into their Palestine flags. Pudgy anarchists would threaten to storm the stage but then run out of energy. Every cunt with a guitar would sign an open letter to the Guardian asking: ‘HOW DID THIS HAPPEN.’ It would be glorious. Do it, someone, please."

      4. I see tickets are on sale on Ebay for the Oasis concert – £16,000!
        I wouldn't go there even if it was free

  54. Ten tenths cloud and almost chilly. So risking a bit of light gardening. Back later – possibly!

    2. Just once in a while, doing nothing is the best choice, Bill. Judging from recent history (and my experiences of taking many tumbles), destressing is good. Actively do nothing, read the inside of your eyelids, let the world flow by in a sea of happy thoughts.

  55. Glastonbury 'appalled' by Bob Vylan IDF comments

    Glastonbury Festival organisers said they are "appalled" by comments made by punk duo Bob Vylan which called for "death" to the Israeli military during a performance on Saturday.

    A joint Instagram post from Glastonbury Festival and organiser Emily Eavis on Sunday said the event stood "against all forms of war and terrorism", and that with almost 4,000 performances on site "there will inevitably be artists and speakers appearing on our stages whose views we do not share".

    "However, we are appalled by the statements made from the West Holts stage by Bob Vylan yesterday," it continued.

    "Their chants very much crossed a line and we are urgently reminding everyone involved in the production of the festival that there is no place at Glastonbury for antisemitism, hate speech or incitement to violence."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33514nryy1o

    "Phew," said Mr Eavis off-mike later in the evening, "I think we might just get away with it."

      1. Oh, and on the BBC news website "Separately on Sunday, the Met Police said it will not pursue prosecution after videos emerged in May appearing to show Kneecap calling for the death of British MPs. "A range of offences were considered as part of the investigation. However, given the time elapsed between the events in the video and the video being brought to police attention, any potential summary only offences were beyond the statutory time limit for prosecution," the force said." I expect Avon & Somerset to say something very similar in the near future!

        2. It's antisemitic, abusive, spiteful and hates Israel, as Labour and Al Beeb do. Plod will make sure to do nothing.

          No, that's not true: it'll viciously attack anyone pointing out two tier justice and anything not fervently pro slammer.

          1. I do despair from time to time, wibs – BUTT (and its a big one) – it is getting increasingly difficult for them to spin. We see them, they know it, and even some of THEM are feeling uneasy about the Nazi stuff.

    4. You can imagine plod saying 'There was no incitement to violence, no intent to actually do anything, no support of terrorism and no charges to apply.

      These are Lefties and support the cause of the Left wing state and we don't care what they do.'

      It's ironic that it was a music festival that muslim attacked, now a music festival attacks the people who rescued the captives.

      God I hate Lefties.

  56. Go on Stewart.. pull out of the anti-Jew Plasticine Rally, there's still time.
    Oh and btw your long time manager Arnold Stiefel has just been lynched outside the loos by a bunch of trustafarians.

    In the background the PA system announces in a nasal whine.. I am is 'proud' of Britain's history of free speech… we've had free speech for a very, very long time in the United Kingdom and it will last for a very, very long time.

      1. Rod Stewart makes political statement at Glastonbury hours after backing Farage
        Rod Stewart expressed his support for Reform UK leader Nigel Farage. The forever young singer told The Times in an interview: “We’re fed up with the Tories. We’ve got to give Farage a chance. He’s coming across well.”

        1. Oh, how I wish they'd all STFU! They're pop singers, fer crineoutloud. Who cares about their ill-informed political claptrap.

  57. Town's menswear shop closes down after 157 years
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1jwxnl52x1o

    I made plenty of purchases here in the past but it had become rather pricey more recently. It survived online shopping and Covid only to end the way many family businesses end.

    The building's changed as well with the loss of the chimneys and the decorative ridges (unusually on the gutters – Corimmobile might have a view on that).

    1. WFH and casual dress in the office probably did not help them one bit. Here, Brooks Brothers still survives but most other sources of "suit and tie" clothing are gone. Bought a nice new BB suit for grandson's wedding a couple years back. Literally have not worn it since.

    2. The decorative ironwork on the gutters is unusual and was intended as a unifying feature on the street. It is too large to fit as cresting on the roof itself.

      The most destructive feature is the hideous deep flat fascia above the shop windows. For some reason, presumably some excuse for larger advertising letters, this mindless alteration has become an unfortunate occurrence throughout our cities.

      The original shopfronts were carefully proportioned and usually the fascia was tilted outwards and contained a boxing for a roller blind awning.

      All too often nowadays the beauty and coherence of Victorian and Edwardian civic design is eviscerated by mindless vandalism perpetrated under the banner of “modernism”.

      1. It's a very bland building now, the once individual units combined into one with the pilasters gone (bricked in by the look of it).

      2. Same In Buenos Aires. Lots of hideously bland flat shopfronts despoiling the ground floors of otherwise beautiful buildings. 😢

    3. The decorative ironwork on the gutters is unusual and was intended as a unifying feature on the street. It is too large to fit as cresting on the roof itself.

      The most destructive feature is the hideous deep flat fascia above the shop windows. For some reason, presumably some excuse for larger advertising letters, this mindless alteration has become an unfortunate occurrence throughout our cities.

      The original shopfronts were carefully proportioned and usually the fascia was tilted outwards and contained a boxing for a roller blind awning.

      All too often nowadays the beauty and coherence of Victorian and Edwardian civic design is eviscerated by mindless vandalism perpetrated under the banner of “modernism”.

    4. That's sad. There goes history, knowledge and service. History fades away…
      I buy my shirts from Joseph Turner in Yorkshire, because they will do me bespoke sleeves – a half inch shorter than normal, and the shirt fits like, well, a properly fitted shirt. Add nice cloth and reasonable prices, and it's unbeatable.

    5. It is typical of Al Beeb to not publish the reason for the closure as if 150 year old companies fold all the time and it was nothing to do with Thieves Reeve's catastrophic budget

      1. I believe it's because the owner is retiring and nobody in his family wants to take it over.
        Allegedly it's profitable, but why he won't/can't sell it suggests all is not well beneath the surface.

  58. Just seen my next door neighbour. I said I hoped the cats hadn't been a nuisance while we were away. Not at all, he replied. One day, they had their daughter, son-in-law and grand-daughter over for lunch. They were sitting in their garden room. Pickles sauntered in, miaowing (he never makes a sound to us) walked round all five of them, saying hello. Then installed himself on a chair, expectantly!!

    1. I remember seeing a funny joke about neighbours and cats.
      I little girl was digging a hole in her garden close to the fence, her elderly neighbour popped her head over and asked what she was doing.
      The girl replied I'm burying my gold fish. The neighbour said oh my word that's a big hole for a little gold fish.
      Yes replied the little girl……it's because it's inside your cat. 🤗🤭

  59. I always remember going on a weekend school trip to Bedgellert ( "Gelert's grave") in North Wales and climbing Moel Hebog ("Hill of the hawk") The scenery was fantastic and the village legend says it took its name from a dog, Gellet.
    In the legend, Llywelyn the Great returns from hunting to find his baby missing, the cradle overturned, and Gelert with a blood-smeared mouth. Believing the dog had devoured the child, Llywelyn draws his sword and kills Gelert. After the dog's dying yelp, Llywelyn hears the cries of the baby, unharmed under the cradle, along with a dead wolf which had attacked the child and been killed by Gelert.

    Beddgelert took its name from an early saint named Kilart or Celert, but it is a nice legend.

    2. I went there or rather Nantmor which is close by – our coach was in a collision with a car turning onto the bridge over the river. I was 14 at the time and remember walking through an old railway tunnel to Nantmor and investigating the copper mine there. One of the masters at my school had a country house there where we stayed for a week

        1. Thanks for that – it would have been 1955 when I went through the tunnel and there were no rails as far as I remember

    3. My first trip to Wales was to CCF camp at Castlemartin (near Pembroke) in I guess 1955. We went there and back on special trains from/to Liverpool, via Crewe, Shrewsbury and the single track line that heads toward Swansea. In those days, there was a link across to Carmarthen, and on to Pembroke. Could not understand why people waved and cheered at us until we worked out that a double headed 15 coach train was not what the locals normally saw on those single track lines.

      1. Castlemartin was an airfield, yes?
        Holidayed in that part of the world in the 1970s with parents.

        1. It was an army camp at the time the CCF descended. We were in standard army tents, with palliasses on duck boards – with the rain causing rivers to run under the duckboards. Still, we were young and resilient in those days.

          Got to shoot a .303 for the first time there.

    4. My first trip to Wales was to CCF camp at Castlemartin (near Pembroke) in I guess 1955. We went there and back on special trains from/to Liverpool, via Crewe, Shrewsbury and the single track line that heads toward Swansea. In those days, there was a link across to Carmarthen, and on to Pembroke. Could not understand why people waved and cheered at us until we worked out that a double headed 15 coach train was not what the locals normally saw on those single track lines.

    5. Was telling my daughter this just last week. The story always made me cry when i was a child. We used to go to Bedgelert a lot.

    3. As proven by Bezos' acquisition of Sanchez. I bet it was about $100k price of entry (sorry, could not resist) for all the "remodelling" involved.

  62. Finally back home. Builders screeded the kitchen & playroom floors over the weekend, left the house full of humid air, but no cat prints in the new screed. Thank goodness… Next, tiles, and the floor heater to be coupled up.

      1. Indeed.
        We're having tiled floors in the kitchen & playroom (that was it's function when the boys were small, kept the name), and tiles can be cold. A little underfloor heating, to replace wall-mounted radiators, is nice & can be switched off when it's warm outside.

        1. Floor is wood, heating is oil-based underfloor. Takes its time to heat up, in winter best left on 24/7 with individual room heater adjusted as req'd. No complaints 🙂

          1. We laid electric cables under Firstborn's sitting room floor when we laid the floor, with remote thermostat. Works really well, but that was a wooden floor laid from scratch.
            We want tiles for kitchen & playroom, have done so for years, and finally realising it. I can't tile to save my life, so professionals fixing it. So far, we have the screed emitting lots water vapour into the house, and unaffected by cats 🙂
            I'll be so pleased when it's all done. Ghen we can get a deepclean of the house… so much cement dust!

          2. First, he cut down the trees…take it from there, took ages. Been re-oiled a few times, but otherwise low maintenance. First done 25 years ago. Good luck with clean-up (and wear a mask or similar :-)) You’ll love your floor x

        2. We built hydronic underfloor into the house when it was under construction. It really only gets turned on when winter is upon us. It's lovely, but the propane fired boiler, in spite of having every gizmo a good German boiler should have, still goes through a lot of propane, and in the "shoulder" seasons, i.e. late autumn and early spring, the Heat pumps are perfectly adequate and cheaper to run. They only really struggle when we are down around -10C as they are air to air units. I looked at ground source, but the HVAC cost would have been about double due to drilling "wells" for the refrigerant loops.. But the house is highly insulated even by US standards, including under the lower level slab, with lots of insulation everywhere else. our electricity is10c (US) per kwh, so no pain there.

      1. It was you saying ‘don’t touch the roof’ that reminded me! I spoke to my sister in Greece yesterday and we laughed a lot! They’re going camping next week in the Peloponnese as they do every year! Not too much rain around there at the moment!

  64. Glastonbury condemns anti-IDF ‘hate speech’
    Organisers say ‘appalling’ chants by rap duo Bob Vylan ‘very much crossed the line’
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/29/streeting-israel-get-own-house-in-order-glastonbury-row/

    BTL

    If the British state does not immediately put Bob Vylan on a charge of having committed the obscenest of hate crimes then why should not the IDF decide to deal with him themselves?

    The IDF can pinpoint their attacks with incredible accuracy and have already extinguished several key members of Hamas. Vylan, if he reflects on this, is a legitimate target and he should be quivering in terror at the thought of what the IDF may do.

    1. The IDF will not bother with a hateful, posturing pipsqueak like this little man ( Company Director Pascal Robinson-Foster, in case you didn't know).

      He is the kind of prat that incites violence and racial hatred to gain publicity. Hard to express sufficient contempt.

      1. It has gone largely without notice the race hate this man is inciting aimed far closer to home. Oh yeah and the barely veiled anti-Semitism thrown at his ex-boss who I assume is living somewhere in England. That's surely worthy of consideration as a police matter. As for the IDF I am sure they can weather those words.

      2. It has gone largely without notice the race hate this man is inciting aimed far closer to home. Oh yeah and the barely veiled anti-Semitism thrown at his ex-boss who I assume is living somewhere in England. That's surely worthy of consideration as a police matter. As for the IDF I am sure they can weather those words.

      3. If you look at the photo more closely you can see that he is called Jeff Banks.

  67. Visited here today, Saint Bartholomew's, Winchester.

    St. Bartholomew's Church in Winchester was originally established in 1110 to serve the lay workers of Hyde Abbey, which is believed to be the final resting place of King Alfred the Great. The church, located in the Hyde area of Winchester, has a history intertwined with that of the Abbey and the city's broader historical narrative. Over the centuries, it has seen periods of disrepair and restoration, with significant work done in the Victorian era. 
    Founded in 1110, St. Bartholomew's was built to serve the lay people of Hyde Abbey, a Benedictine monastery that held significance in Winchester. 
    Hyde Abbey itself was established on the site of the Old Minster, where King Alfred the Great had been initially buried. The Abbey was also the final resting place for King Alfred's wife and son. The Abbey was dissolved and demolished in 1539 during the reign of Henry VIII, and its stones were used in the construction of St. Bartholomew's tower. 
    After falling into disrepair, the church underwent significant restoration in the Victorian era, with a new north aisle added and other repairs.     https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4463e5562709b6d6ba89f8407227252160bfe28a51928e863a3cfb708c19ee14.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a7c7171bccd6930fdd6740f83dcb32013977337181b99996f2edc01949551bb7.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f20a9eced6c9dcb63b77e52863873746ea3b3953114f0bf84c6fddcc54c9eba2.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7e9601e647b4901b4571c9d52b9f120bfacf3fc1d5b2a18591769d165a6dd5ec.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/21b55f2a1345f1a09025529e048a66ab7b2d142cb612f9b3f04f0d51b88af35e.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8c1cbbf1e763bcdb48892122086ac7e1ffa1f88104640d81ca9c929814ddc761.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/049d99183d44907b3d38b1235d523f0fb4b96365bd3d71fa5e30b5a42c24186f.jpg

  68. Apologies for the language, but I'm tired of these people turning up everywhere to tell us what to think and how to live our lives.
    Oslo is filled with Pride just now, and whereas I have nothing against gay folk, the law ensures they are treated equally (as it should), so what's the beef? Why the endless harping on about their disadvantage and gayness? Why does anybody care any more, it's a problem that was solved quite a while ago.
    Go and Pride in Iran, if you want to make a difference. The Christian West is on side.

    1. I would suggest Pascal Robinson-foster isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. He told us we couldn't have our country back so admitting it didn't belong to immigrants.
      Stormzy (me neither) will be worried he isn't the darling of the 'B'BC any more.

    2. Thing is, Paul – I'm in my 70s, guessing you and others may be similar age….it bothers me a lot more that my grandchildren have to put up with this crap, and grow up with it around them. The BBC is disgusting imo, the tv licence should be scrapped and moved to subscription basis, that might give them pause for thought.

      1. The issue for me is that all these problems of being black, queer or whatever, seem to have been solved. You cannot be legally excluded, and so the "being special" label has gone. What's left is the same problems that affect us straight white folk: Introverts don't get included, extroverts take over, and so on (INTJ writing here, INTJ enough for the analyst to be really surprised…).
        You cannot easily regulate inter-personal interatcions, so some shit is bound to come their way. Grow up, and like the rest of us, get over it.

        1. But where’s the fun in that, Paul? No race-baiting, no Jew-hating, no offending women in the loo, no demanding reparations, no hatred of ‘Normies’. In fact, nothing to laugh at at all!

        2. ‘Introverted, Intuitive, Thinking, and Judging’ pretty much covers all bases. ‘Manners maketh man (and woman)’….some just look for arguments, almost permanently, it can be quite quite boring😆

      2. Just stop paying it – you can still watch most programs on catch-up, legally and free x

        3. I know, what I tell him 😆, he wants to watch football and I say subscribe to Sky Sports….none so deaf, Alec…none so deaf x

          5. Far as I know, Alec…need a tv licence to watch anything on terrestrial tv, but not if watching eg Netflix/Amazon etc. Perhaps BBC should be subscription only, generally regarded as gov’t mouthpiece. I mostly watch Netflix, recently watched Fargo (Billy Bob Thornton version). Currently re-watching Better Call Saul x

      3. Yes, the BBC needs to be cast adrift from public funding and endorsement immediately. There is no point in imposing fines, as things stand those fines would be paid by the taxpayer, with no-one held accountable – certainly none of the over-remunerated executive.

        Please make this the death of the BBC.'s access to public funds and legitimacy. It is a rogue, Jew-hating, anti-British conglomeration funded (without consent) by those that it would wish to destroy.

        As regards the ME: the British media, with the BBC in particular, has blood on its hands. Its misreporting, its lies and its calumnies have caused many deaths and are set to cause more.

    3. It’s the double standards that annoy me. Either it’s no big deal (which as far as I’m concerned it isn’t as long as they leave me alone) or they’re special and require special treatment. It seems to me they want it both ways.

  69. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14858107/Glastonbury-fans-praise-iconic-JADE-declare-need-artists-like-Little-Mix-star-gives-middle-finger-Reform-supporting-genocide-expletive-laden-set-politically-charged-show.html

    It’s a great pity that the armed forces these people so despise can’t parachute in, firing blanks and letting off thunder-flashes.
    It might give them a taste of what they want for Israel, but without being shot stabbed or raped.
    Unfortunately the panic would probably cause stampede deaths and the shit on the foreshore would fertilise the fields for a decade.

  70. The history of the WHR is a long and tortured one! The last train ran in 1937 and the line was abandoned. In 1941, all the assets were stripped for the war effort.

  71. Arrived in Barnard Castle after a drive via M1/M18/A1 Wetherby, Harrogate for 90 min or so, Ripon By-pass, Leyburn, then the road past Bellerby Ranges, a pause at Grinton Smelt Mill, then on over the top to Barnard Castle.

    A lovely day for driving over the moors too!

  72. Wordle No. 1,471 4/6

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    Wordle 29 Jun 2025

    Playful Par Four?

    1. After the eagles, a more normal bogey.

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    2. After the eagles, a more normal bogey.

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    3. Bad call at guess 4 means a bogey – duh…..

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    5. Same here.

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    6. Me too.

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  73. Afternoon (just about) all. Have had a busy day. Who said Sunday was a day of rest? After church I had some shopping to do because I didn’t manage to do it all when I had the car out last time. Then I had plants to put in the garden and pots and tomatoes to feed. As ever with gardens, one thing led to another and I have only just come in.

    It is not so much the justice system as the use to which it is put that’s the problem in my opinion.

  81. Captain Sensible
    1d
    “Welcome to Britain. I’m sorry about the mess, but we’ve got Labour in.”

    1. Why does it take a blonde lass to sort this shit out?
      Excellent! She seems just like SWMBO – no messing, straight to the point and the solution.
      Good on Meloni.

    2. We should be able to borrow her for the weekend. She should be able to sign a lot of deportation orders in two days.

    3. But, but, but what about the ECHR? The reason we can't do the same to a great many people.

  84. Cool!
    Shot .303 Lee-Enfield No. 4 .303 in CCF, and now own a Mauser K98 in .308 – sniper scope, can take the danglies off a fly at 200m… also got to shoot a Bren in .303 as well, now that was fun for a 17-year-old!

    1. Yes, we had .303's, Brens, a couple of Stens and a few that looked like .303's but were actually .22's in the school Armory. Since we were near Liverpool, there got to be concerns about the IRA helping themselves. There was one half hearted attempt to break in – probably by a few "boyos" who had had too much Guiness, but no harm done.

      I had an AR here for a long time, but one of my grandchildren likes to shoot so he has it now. Along with my Corvette… Lovely car, but I started to find getting out of it was an issue, especially when there was not room to fully open the door.

      As my old boss, Jack Welch correctly said, "Getting old sucks".

      1. Old beats the alternative… Have an armoury of small arms and long arms here in Norway.
        Firstborn has even more, as he's something significant in the shooting sport business.

  85. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e59d8a3a045707cf56b27697a87666384ef6eda899a1e182d34285b0fe8ff262.png

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    Well, it seems that Starmer and Lord Hermer have the perfect opportunity to prove to us all that there is not a two-tier justice system.
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    Rogerborg ⬛🟧
    5h
    Τhеո why a𝚛e үоu smi𝚛𝗄іnɡ aոd ɡᴜѕhіոɡ аbоυ𝚝 it, yоᴜ ᴠaріd ϲuո𝚝?
    Υestеrdаү і𝚝 waѕ "Ϝ𝚛еe Ρaleѕ𝚝iոe."
    Тоԁay it'ѕ "𝖣еа𝚝h 𝚝о the IDF."
    Tоmо𝚛𝚛оᴡ іt will bе "Κіll 𝚝հe Јеᴡ".
    Αnd ѕ𝚝ill 𝚝հe apоlоgis𝚝s – аոd 𝚝he Jеᴡ հаterѕ – wіll bе ѕayіոg "Lооk, it's ոо𝚝 mеаnt 𝚝о be 𝚝a𝚔еո litе𝚛аlly."

    4. Like "flogging is too good for you" is, like, not meant to be taken literally?

      "What do you mean by "literally" ? "

      "Like, it's a get out of jail card, man. But if people do take it literally, then that isn't our fault".

    2. They redistribute "the world's wealth" but make sure they increase their own personal wealth. Evil, evil, evil.

      1. Exactly. It's the same old bait on the hook – "we're going to distribute wealth fairly" – with the same old result – a small parasite class getting richer and the masses kept impoverished.

  88. There have been over the course of history 1,712,899 disputes over territory.
    At Friday's close of business there are currently 512 border disputes.

    And yet Gary & Stu Grant focus on one only.

    Gary Lineker told a Glastonbury event today he was gutted.”I wanted to watch Kneecap as well. Free Palestine!”

  89. Emily Eavis joins Gary & crowd chanting.. "We must kill the Jew.. wipe Israel off the face of the map.. drink the blood of their children until every last one is destroyed : ‘Action is required, bravery is required… Each of us should bring forth our capability."

    However, later she clarified.. "Some parts of our speeches had been ‘taken out of context,’ adding she has never advocated violence."

    1. Are you joking or did that happen?
      Impossible to know nowadays with so many barking mad people around.

      1. I take the view that any post by kowloonbhoy should be treated with the greatest suspicion, BB2. Same with that Morfrey guy.

        1. I assume he’s joking Elsie – but in these crazy days, one cannot take anything for granted!

      2. I take the view that any post by kowloonbhoy should be treated with the greatest suspicion, BB2. Same with that Morfrey guy.

  90. Emily Eavis joins Gary & crowd chanting.. "We must kill the Jew.. wipe Israel off the face of the map.. drink the blood of their children until every last one is destroyed : ‘Action is required, bravery is required… Each of us should bring forth our capability."

    However, later she clarified.. "Some parts of our speeches had been ‘taken out of context,’ adding she has never advocated violence."

    1. How many tons of rubbish will be cleared , and where will it go to..

      Dragons Den Deborah Meaden was being interviewed , she was in raptures , and I'm sure the atmosphere is wonderful, if you enjoy loads of noise and the crowds .

      I think I would have loved to have seen Rod Stewart though , always a favourite of mine .

    3. With almost 4,000 performances at Glastonbury 2025, there will inevitably be artists and speakers appearing on our stages whose views we do not share ….

      Feel free to use the description English and/or Conservatives.

  94. Iranian regime issues official fatwa call for assassination of Donald J Trump. LOL

    1. After the fake assassination attempt while he was running for President, it was predicted that there would be a fake successful assassination by Iran which would (a) get the US into a war with Iran and (b) let Trump step into the shadows to make way for the President they really want – JD Vance.
      I hope this conspiracy theory doesn't come true – but if we wake up to dramatic headlines one morning, I doubt I will be buying the official version.

    1. So which half is which? As far as I know, females are female both up and down – as are males.

      1. Doesn't matter. It will be for a pervy reason and will be interpreted pervily.

    2. Left half-right half?
      Top half, bottom half?
      Front half, back half?
      Where do you draw the line if limbs are missing?
      Arseholes.

      1. Yo Ol

        Arseholes.

        They all have them, it is the usage that determines what they are

    3. I hear the sound of rubber gloves being snapped tight.

      Edited for sound effects.

  98. That's me for today. A grey, sunless day – but we did get some useful things done in t'garden.

    Have a spiffing evening.

    A demain.

    2. Vegan, naturally. Something else I didn't want to know but they insist on belching out.

    3. Vegan, naturally. Something else I didn't want to know but they insist on belching out.

  101. Afternoon, Nottlers. Hope all are well.

    Beautiful day up here. Took the backpack and tent for a stroll yesterday – oh, and the dog pack. Camped out and did a spot of fishing, but didn't catch anything of note, just a couple of smallish pike which are now submerged in water in a sieve in a saucepan on the stove making some lazy-man fish stock for the freezer.

        1. I was a keen pike angler when we lived in southwest London. No muskies in the UK though.

  102. Hey, O. That would be an interesting experiment. How many German Sheps can fit a 3-man geodesic dome tent….?

    But no, they sleep outside the tent same as they do every night at the house at this time of the year.

      1. Well they do get the choice! Front door dog door is always open – it's not like I banish them. They generally prefer to hang out with the chickens and turkeys than with me. 🙁

    3. My pooches are clearly pampered. They sleep on the bottom of the bed in the motorhome (they are not allowed on the furniture at home) for the simple reason that the aisle between the two beds is narrow and if I want to get to the kitchen or the loo, I want to avoid stepping on, or worse, tripping over, a dog.

  103. Reminds me of "Iolanthe".

    Strephon, an Arcadian shepherd, wants to marry Phyllis, a Ward of Chancery. Phyllis does not know that Strephon is half fairy (his upper half — his legs are mortal!) and when she sees Strephon kissing a seemingly young woman, she assumes the worst. But her "rival" turns out to be none other than Strephon's own mother, Iolanthe, a fairy — fairies never grow old.

    1. Whenever I see 'Iolanthe' I am reminded of the Two Ronnies;

      Oh I love you Iolanthe
      You're the only girl I fanthe

      (You had to be there….)

  104. Oh Dear in Leicestershire right now absolute racisms is taking place, all white England ladies football team 6 – 0 up against Jamaica with 3 mins of extra time left. Disgusting behaviour…….😉
    And human beings in the crowd exposed to the glowball warming sunshine. 7-0 now……further arrests will be made. 😅🤣😂

  106. Drinking a tin of Sainsbury’s diet gin and tonic (i didn’t buy it). The blurb on the back reads:

    “Sainsbury’s gin and light tonic contains 50% less calories than the standard Sainsbury’s gin and tonic”.

    aaaaagggggghhhhhhhhhhh!

    Ffs, Sainsbury’s. It’s not hard.

    6. After watching a couple of James Bond films I rather enjoyed the cocktails he did. I had two of them on a cruise to the Norwegian fjords. I could hardly stand up after.
      I nearly had to call Money Penny for help. 🍸🍸

      1. I like "Long Island iced tea"
        Be careful how many you consume:
        Drink, enjoy, fall over, go to sleep in a stupor

    7. Of course, LIR. Sainsbury's ought to have written "50% fewer calories". Lol.

  109. Quite, opopanax …and yet online is reckoned to be the place for subversion. Husband refers to it as Bint Broadcasting Corp, rest of his language unprintable.

      1. "“Bliss it was in that dawn to be alive But to be young was very heaven.”

    4. I was a fireman then, great time to gain experience in all types of fires and other situations. In all a wonderful summer.

    5. I remember it well, heavily pregnant, a preparatory standpipe erected end of the street, luckily not used. Was similar in '49, year I was born. Both times, seem to remember heavy snow following a year or so afterwards.

    6. I use to 'have a bath' nearly every day and syphon the water on to my garden veg patch.

    7. I had to move from foot to foot talking to someone in the street as the pavement was so hot. Roads melted and what a mes that caused.

    9. That water feature is now probably surrounded by an angry Palestine Action mob.

    10. I worked for Doeflex then, making plastic sheet, which involved a lot of heat. A million dollars at the drop of a hat…

  114. Well done 80 years old Rod Stewart one of the best Glasto's ever. Great band Great backing singers, quite emotional his songs were a huge part of our younger lives. The audience loved it.
    Mid sixties with three mates we bumped into him in a pub in Highgate. He bought us a pint each. Never thought he'd be that famous. 🍻 cheers.

      1. They did, anne. And caught up with Cream today (YouTube) 'Sunshine of your Love'. Fab.

      2. Shame we didn't carry a camera around back in the day.
        Some of clubs and performers we saw close up were epic.

    3. I was in hospital in 1975 having serious abdominal op , and was quite poorly and out of it .. a woman in the next bed started a lovely conversation, she was also recovering from an op , but well ahead of me , and she must have been in her fifties , I was in my mid twenties..

      She joked and laughed and cheered me up , then she asked me whether I had ever heard of Rod Stewart , wow , I woke up and managed to smile and say of course I have .. and at that time his record "Sailing" had been released .. she then told me she was his auntie .. I believed her, she told me she was his link to Scotland .

      She spoke a lot about him and his early days in pop , and I have to say he is one of my favourites , must have been hell to have been married to him .

      This evening his Glasto performance was wonderful , brilliant backing group too.

      1. I think his father was Scottish his mother English and they lived not far from Highgate, hence seeing him in the pub. I also think his dad was a builder or tradesman.
        I was told recently that Rod had also played football at a ground in Mill Hill. (Not far from Highgate) The home ground of the club where I played. But I never saw him.

  115. Yesterday evening I wrote about a village function.

    Part two: the multiple stall evening and fireworks.

    Tonight we had lots of stalls serving different foods.
    Everything we ate was delicious and watching those who ate from other stalls, so was everything else.
    The locals seemed to go out of their way to be pleasant to their "pet Brits".
    Tonight was slightly less formal, so the mayor greeted those he knew rather than patrol the whole "estate". Good to get a wave.

    The fireworks go bang in a couple of hours, so well past our bedtimes! The man preparing them was fully occupied for the three hours we were there.

    Chatting to one of the stallholders it appears there may be another "do" tomorrow night in another commune.
    Hopefully we'll get to it.

  116. I think I'll pop orff now, I've not done much today family events didn't turn out as planned.
    Good night all Nottlers 😴

  119. Well, chums, it's been a busy day so I shall now head for bed. Good Night to you all. Sleep well and I hope to see you all tomorrow.

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