Sunday 5 June: Hope that spectacular Jubilee celebrations will inspire Britons to strive to do their duty

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  1. Good morrow, Gentlefolk, an interesting DT article:
    Race reading group inspired by BLM plans to ‘decolonise’ Commons library
    Library draws up anti-racism plan, including a diversity audit, in the aftermath of the murder of George Floyd in the US

    This is best answered by my BTL comment:

    Well said, “woke nonsense” akin to “burning books”.
    When you start burning books, it’s a short step to burning people, as recent history has shewn us.

    A further BTL comment sums it up nicely:

    Nicholas Mills 1 HR AGO

    Our culture is being cancelled. But
    A prime example of misogynistic behaviour is the grooming of 200,000 white girls by a community. It has practically been allowed to happen. So as not to cause offence to a particular community.
    Then a white man kills Sarah and then misogynistic behaviour is intolerable.
    Quite frankly the woke are hypocritical. Because they only point to problems that exist in their own world.
    The Sarah murder is male misogyny and very wrong but the grooming by a community is an inbuilt community misogynistic behaviour enforced by their religious indoctrination. This community misogynistic behaviour continues and yet it is our culture and history cancelled. Unbelievable.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/06/04/mps-brand-plans-decolonise-house-commons-library-woke-nonsense/#comment

    1. Excellent BTL comment, thank you for re-posting. We are not going to forget what’s going on, much as TPTB would like to distract us from it.

      1. We don’t because we remember what life used to be but the younger generations have been brainwashed.

    2. And what exactly would be wrong with causing offence to that particular community?

        1. As a certain Sgt, Major often said “oh dear, how sad, never mind”.

          So, so what if they are offended? They do enough to offend us.

        2. As a certain Sgt, Major often said “oh dear, how sad, never mind”.

          So, so what if they are offended? They do enough to offend us.

        1. Well, if they react in an illegal way, they get arrested and deported/put in prison/deported. My preferance would always be deportation, but they would only come back, like pimples. About time that happened, IMO.

        1. So much woke type screeching at the Jubilee Concert – I couldn’t bear it.

          Almost everything else was OK.

          1. I enjoyed the Nessun Dorma sung by an Italian [I think].It was well received by the large audience. The other music was rather too loud for me. I wonder how much energy was required for the lighting.
            David Attenborough and the Royals came on at the end to support zero-carbon policy

          2. Why does politics have to be rammed in to this? And, in case anybody wonders, all this warmist wokery is watermelon politics (green on the outside, red on the inside).
            Surely speeches could have touched on major events, thankfulness to those who put their life on the line to keep folks safe, for example?
            Bah! Eff em all. Eff em all, the long and the short and the tall..

          3. Belated Happy birthday Clydesider- 🎂 🥳 🎉 🎈 I hope you had a good day

          4. Thank you Ndovu. It wasn’t a good day but I have had so many birthdays that i got through it OK. 4 birthday cards this year showed how many friends I have left. Nottlers made up for it with their comments.

          5. Heyup!
            I missed it also, but sorry it was not a good day for you.
            Better one next year perhaps?

          6. 🎼Happy Birthday for yesterday, clydesider. So sorry I missed it. 🎉🍹🎂

          7. The fact that they are coming out openly with stuff which is really extremist if you’re not immersed in it as they seem to be, suggests a worrying level of confidence in their agenda.
            They are justified, because most people still haven’t a clue what’s going on and what’s about to hit them.

          8. Sorry I appear to have missed your birthday – I was AWOL yesterday. A belated Many Happy Returns.

  2. US supports international inquiry into war crimes in Ukraine. 5 June 2022.

    US embassy in Kyiv says ‘those responsible for war crimes must face justice’

    Is this the country of Abu Ghaib? Of Guantanamo? Of Waterboarding? That is not a member of the International Criminal Court and has tried to prevent it prosecuting Americans? That in the last days of Afghanistan killed an entire family and denies any responsibility? That has droned countless innocents throughout the entire Middle East? That United States?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/jun/04/russia-ukraine-war-latest-ukrainians-fight-back-sievierodonetsk-putin-macron-africans-victims-food-shortages-zelenskiy-eu

    1. The war crimes industry got out of hand a long time ago. It’s just used as a continuation of war, to carry on beating the losing side.

  3. US supports international inquiry into war crimes in Ukraine. 5 June 2022.

    US embassy in Kyiv says ‘those responsible for war crimes must face justice’

    Is this the country of Abu Ghaib? Of Guantanamo? Of Waterboarding? That is not a member of the International Criminal Court and has tried to prevent it prosecuting Americans? That in the last days of Afghanistan killed an entire family and denies any responsibility? That has droned countless innocents throughout the entire Middle East? That United States?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/jun/04/russia-ukraine-war-latest-ukrainians-fight-back-sievierodonetsk-putin-macron-africans-victims-food-shortages-zelenskiy-eu

  4. Gareth Southgate furious as Hungarian children boo England players for taking the knee. 5 June 2022.

    Gareth Southgate expressed disappointment over boos from schoolchildren for his players taking the knee on a disappointing night that saw England slump to a 1-0 defeat in Hungary.

    Despite England’s opponents facing a behind-closed-doors ban for racism, a Uefa loophole around 30,000 children and their guardians in – prompting a minority to lead a chorus of jeers during the kick-off gesture.

    “I have no idea why people would try to boo that gesture,” Southgate said, as he called for more education around anti-discrimination. “And I think very often young people can’t know why they are doing it really, they are being influenced by older adults.”

    One of the oddities about children is that despite their lack of world experience they have a natural instinct for spotting fakers!

    P.S. No comments allowed!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/06/04/england-players-booed-hungarian-children-taking-knee/

      1. He’s a thick-headed moron who thinks he’s there to ‘educate’ people! No, you plank! You’re there to play football, and stop the arrogance and virtue signalling!

    1. “And I think very often young people can’t know why they are doing it really, they are being influenced by older adults.”

      But I’m guessing he supports them being influenced to be what they are not, and having their genitals removed.

      1. Everyone else is laughing at the stupid England team, they embarrass us with their political antics.

        1. It does not seem to have done much good to their football.

          Has any organisation ever done so much to damage racial tolerance as Black Lives Matter?

    2. Yes, that was jolly annoying.
      I was rummaging through my mental thesaurus for words suggesting that I was unimpressed with the virtue signalling numpties when I realised my efforts would never see the backlight of a screen.

  5. Good morning all.
    Or rather Wet morning all! Bucketing it down overnight and still raining. 6°C in the yard with the rain forecast to continue for the day.

    1. In the sermon this morning, the priest prayed that God would send His flood-tide to inspire us with the Holy Ghost. Over coffee afterwards I told him he was too late with his prayers; He had already done it and flooded the end of my road! The priest laughed (and so did the organist who was standing with us).

      1. Sadly I’m now totally out of the habit of Churchgoing. I did make an attempt a few years ago to restart, but was heavily deterred by the rather woke vicarette who led the service.
        Given the pontifications of the current incumbent at Canterbury, I’m unlikely to make another attempt.

        1. The woke vicarette was the reason I took myself off to another church in another diocese! The rector (a bloke) was very good and the choir is excellent. The rector retired and we’ve now got a woman who will take up the reins in a fortnight’s time – I hope she doesn’t prove a disappointment.

  6. Good Moaning.
    One for Maggie and any other NOTTL Children of the Empire.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/when-flying-was-fun

    “When flying was fun

    On the BOAC VC10 flights to Nairobi, the pilots would invite children like me up to sit in the cockpit with them. Once they put me behind the controls and I was very nervous about making a wrong move that could throw us into a tailspin. I had a BOAC badge and a Junior Jet Club book, which the captain kindly signed for me on each voyage. Attractive stewardesses served breakfast, lunch and supper with metal cutlery, the seats were huge with loads of legroom for tall men and the adults puffed away on cigarettes. The cabin was ultra-quiet because the four big Rolls-Royce engines were in the tail, rather than under the wings. Somebody up there cares about you, the advertisements said. Before the Super VC10s came in, we’d fly on the East African Airways Comet 4, its interior all decorated with pictures of wildlife and Bert Kaempfert’s ‘A Swingin’ Safari’ tootling away before take-off and when you landed at Nairobi Embakasi airport. As you disembarked in the warm African twilight, crowds on the viewing deck overlooking the runway would be there, waving and cheering as they caught sight of loved ones coming home at last.

    In those years British children all over the world had a wonderful time flying home to Kai Tak, Paya Lebar and Lagos International. When we had to go back to school in rainy old England, the airlines laid on a Lollipop Special, the entire flight filled with school kids of all ages. Near anarchy erupted before we even began taxiing and then it went on like that until Gatwick. Young bloods pilfered the galleys of gin and whisky miniatures. Gangs of small kids roamed up and down the aisles having food fights. Teenagers lit up 10 Cent filterless fags. Boys would attempt to flirt with the stewardesses and adolescent couples who had met on the beach at the Driftwood Club during a recent disco night were snogging in the loos. The cabin crew were always sweet-natured as they struggled to control the mobs turning rows of seats into a steeplechase course. I never saw them lose their tempers in the bedlam. I believe that even during these Lollipop voyages, the captain invited young passengers to come up and see how he was able to fly the aircraft in a straight line over the Sahara despite the rumpus in the rear.

    At 4 a.m. over the Adriatic I am rudely shaken awake. ‘I’ve got beef or ham.’ A large figure glowers down at me. ‘What?’ I say. It’s been a hard night with my knees jammed against the seat in front since there is no legroom these days in Economy. ‘Beef or ham sandwich!’ ‘Umm, ham, please.’ A doggy bag with a clingfilm-wrapped bun and a Frosties bar is dumped on my lap. Welcome to British Airways cuisine in 2022, on an aircraft that doesn’t look too old from the outside and does at least get one safely there – but which is no longer any fun.

    We all know things started to change after 9/11. But even after that I recall putting my bag through the metal detector in Nairobi and being embarrassed when security discovered I had a belt of shotgun cartridges in there that I’d forgotten to take out after a day’s bird shooting on the farm. Another time a guard searching my bags in Uganda took out my family-sized can of tear gas and queried what it was. ‘It’s personal,’ I replied nervously. He raised his arm and made as if to spray his armpit. ‘Like deodorant?’ ‘Yes, like deodorant.’

    I think things suddenly got a great deal worse after the shoe bomber. Then there was that cascade of scares that transformed the entire airport experience. These days I am doing an unusually large amount of air travel and I experience a repetitive ritual humiliation, but there’s no glamour any more: produce your vaccination certificate and passenger locator form, mask on, have your temperature taken, show your yellow fever card, shoes off, laptop out, belt off, no ‘sharps’ or liquids, assume the position in the scanner, multiple metal detectors to push your bags through… I wonder if the style and excitement of how flying used to be can ever return – and if not, how much worse can it get than it already is?”

    1. Good morning Anne

      Brilliant article , and thankyou for that.

      My goodness, the older I have got , the more I wondered whether I have been dreaming about experiences like that , but how amazing now that some one else has written about it, and now shared , so I wasn’t dreaming and I also have my Junior Jet Club book to prove it .

      1. I still have mine – but BOAC didn’t fly to Gatwick, and any pilot putting an unqualified person in the driving seat should be immediately fired. An Aeroflot pilot did that, the plane crashed and killed everybody.

      2. Have you written your experiences Mags? It would be worth spending an hour or so on a cold summer’s day

        1. Recall as a child sitting in a VC10 at Lagos whilst the army (with armoured cars) fought the rebels over by the runway, and being mindful of the fuel tanks being full for the flight to London. One stray shell…

    2. Anne, your first two paragraphs put me in mind of the service and cuisine I experienced having won a return flight to Miami on Concorde.

      I too was invited up into the cockpit and as I passed the front cabin wall, I noted the airspeed 1,360 mph at 90,000 feet. Marvellous flight both there and back with a week in Miami. That was in the 1980s though. Today, no Concorde, no service and no cuisine, – you might as fly Ryanair and it would be cheaper than my free flights. Airborne cattle-trucks.

  7. Labour says it is now the true party of patriotism and British values. 4 June 2022.

    Labour has staked a bold claim to be the true party of patriotism and the best of British values, as four days of nationwide celebrations to mark the Queen’s platinum jubilee draw to a close on Sunday.

    Senior Labour party figures said Boris Johnson – who was booed outside St Paul’s Cathedral on Friday – was no longer seen by the public as a leader who upholds the British standards of integrity, decency and honesty that the country has long been admired for across the world.

    Writing in today’s Observer, Lucy Powell, the shadow secretary of state for digital, culture, media and sport, says Labour is the party which now stands up for much-loved British institutions – including the BBC and Channel 4 – which the Tories want to undermine in pursuit of a series of ideological “culture wars”.

    My God! She almost certainly believes this guff. These people actually hate the UK, and even more, its indigenous population, with a loathing that would do credit to any Russian Bolshevik. Socialist ideologues possess boundless self-confidence. This is because they are their beliefs! Without them they cease to exist both politically and personally! They provide reassurance in a hostile world with the hope of better things to come as soon as soon as they have the power to change things. The horror follows in its footsteps!

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/04/labour-says-it-is-now-the-true-party-of-patriotism-and-british-values

    1. Labour are as patriotic and for British values as dog hair is a building material. Ah, then I read the article. They’re aligning themselves with Left wing, big state, high tax organsiations – none of whom represent this country.

      Ah, sod them all.

  8. Good morning, all. Pouring with rain. Cold.

    Why on earth were there so few white English performers? Why did an aged American lady wind up the show (after it had, apparently, ended with the National Anthem)? Why was Woke William allowed to bore on and on about the pending doom?

    What a bloody shambles. We watched – but only because the MR’s brother was in charge of the sound system for the whole kit (and caboodle).

    I can imagine in 50 years time, when George is pushing 60 and waiting for Woke William to die, him addressing the nation and saying that every effort must be used to stop the relentless glacier formation…..”which is such a danger to the planet”….

    1. It is to demonstrate to the world that MM is correct, Britain is a backward racist country where no Bame or wokist is ever welcome

      1. If that mean those pimples on the *rse of our RF never coming back I don’t care whether the world thinks that we are a backward racist country etc. In fact I don’t care what “the world” thinks – it’s in none too good a state itself.

    2. Yet there is no proof that it is. It simply moves money from the worker to the state. We can – the species, not just us, or Britain – do nothing about the climate. The planet is huge. The sun orders of magnitutde larger.

      It is ego and hubris by the greeniacs that they believe it will. However it, as with most things Left it’s not about ecology or the environment. It’s about getting their own way and removing choice, freedom and opportunity from those they hate.

  9. Why is Diana Ross supposed to be so marvellous (should I ruin the collective NOTTL blood pressure by using the word ‘iconic’)?
    I recognised what she was indistinctly warbling, but I wasn’t impressed yonks ago when I heard it first time round; it is merely lift music with added caterwauling.
    And the outfit: Pavlova crossed with parlourmaid. Not a good look when you are young and slim, let alone when you are getting on a bit.

    1. I think Prince Charles liked the Supremes and the Three Degrees. Not known for his taste.

    2. Ms Ross was once acclaimed as the best singer in the World. A sage wag commented, correctly in many people’s opinion, “…that she wasn’t the best singer in the Supremes.” By some she was accorded diva status, and in my opinion, as described by the second definition in the online Cambridge English Dictionary, not the first.

          1. Thank you Spikey! Big party today! Cue the rain, after a beautiful sunny day yesterday!

          2. We can be there by 1.00! We’ll bring food and my fabulous 4 layer 4 coloured cake! Oh! And 15 extra people!
            See you soon, pet!🚎

          3. Have a super day both of you and enjoy your big party. Happy anniversary.

        1. Technically it was over several days culminating in a grand finale; like the build up to a wedding.

          1. Just a little flower, growing in the wrong place? Is that what you mean….?

  10. So who thought it was a good idea to let the BBC loose on the third day of the Jubilee celebrations with last nights concert?
    They had to politicise it didn’t they, they couldn’t resist giving all us little people a cringe fest lesson on diversity, climate change and green issues.

    1. It’s what they do, innit! And expect us to pay up and be grateful!

    2. My life improved greatly when I cancelled the TV licence and threw the TV away….

  11. This madness will NEVER end AND it is funded by our taxes!:-

    Census could ask ‘do you menstruate?’ instead of ‘are you female?’ to be inclusive of trans people
    Project has assessed how legal sex would be abolished in England and Wales and replaced with a single ‘gender’ category

    By
    Ewan Somerville
    4 June 2022 • 4:00pm

    The census could ask “do you menstruate?” instead of “are you female?” to be inclusive of transgender people, a taxpayer-funded study has suggested.

    The Future of Legal Gender Project, led by King’s College London, has assessed how legal sex would be abolished in England and Wales and replaced with a single gender category, with the aim of contributing to policy discussions.

    After four years of interviews with 200 charity workers, civil servants, lawyers, government officials and the public, it suggested that a “soft decertification” of small changes in organisations could replace any lurch to “gender-neutral law”.

    The study, which received £579,717 of taxpayer funding from the Economic and Social Research Council, acknowledged the concerns of campaigners who argue that biological sex provides vital binary data and that trans women are not women.

    But the research said that in surveys such as the census, respondents understand the question on their sex in different ways – some “assume the question is about their genitals, about their legal status or about the sex they were registered as having at birth”. Others will say their sex is “based on the social category they live in”, it noted.

    As a result, the researchers said: “In some contexts, more precise questions may help to avoid distortions or inaccuracies, for example, ‘do you menstruate?’ or ‘are you perceived or treated as a man at work?’ rather than, or in addition to, ‘are you male or female?’.”

    It explained that “acts of sexism may also be far more dependent on how someone is perceived by others than how they self-identify”.

    Language choices will vary by context
    Last year, campaigners won a High Court battle with the Office for National Statistics to force it to remove passports from guidance on how to answer the sex question because this allowed people to state a different sex without having legally changed it.

    There are strict rules around obtaining a Gender Recognition Certificate to change gender, and ministers have rejected attempts by MPs to make it easier.

    The study acknowledged that this is a “challenging area” but said that, when it comes to language around pregnancy, breastfeeding and menstruation, “many people do not have the normative bodies associated with being a woman or a man”.

    It said that language choices will vary by context, but that for local councils seeking to be inclusive while precise, “‘breast and chest feeding’, for instance, may be better than choosing one term over the other”.

    In their final report last month, the seven academics who carried out the study from KCL, Kent and Loughborough universities added: “For medical purposes, good practice means asking questions at a higher level of specificity. ‘Are you menstruating?’ rather than: ‘what is your sex?’”

    Divergent views on decertification of legal sex
    In written law, they suggested that “building on existing practice, where it is necessary to use pronouns in legislation, gender-neutral pronouns (e.g. they, them, their) should be used”, except where inequality or lack of clarity is the consequence.

    Where law mentions gendered physical processes, the researchers suggested it could say “gestational or birth parent rather than mother or woman – this recognises that people other than women also become pregnant”.

    The study identified divergent views on decertification of legal sex, which it said need to be addressed prior to or alongside it being enacted, such as gender-based violence and inequality and different bodies in changing rooms.

    But it said “slow law” would be a way of introducing it, involving incremental changes in society that recognise gender as a fluid spectrum.

    Prof Davina Cooper, a law researcher at KCL who led the study, said: “Our research findings are intended to stimulate and facilitate thoughtful discussion, among specialists and the wider public, about the implications of dismantling a system of legal sex status.

    “We did not advocate for a particular legal outcome, either to keep or abolish legal sex, but to identify some key issues and advance understanding of them.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/04/census-could-ask-do-menstruate-instead-female-taxpayer-funded/

      1. Oh I guess we will simply be in the non-menstruating category – with the men.

    1. Everyone, men and women, should answer the “Do you menstruate?” W’ith a resounding, “Yes!”

      That’ll bugger up their statistics.

      1. If I’m ever about to have any medical treatment where I am asked if I am pregnant. I intend to reply “No, I’ve had a hysterectomy”.

    2. Everyone, men and women, should answer the “Do you menstruate?” W’ith a resounding, “Yes!”

      That’ll bugger up their statistics.

    3. I object to the words “menstruation” and “menses”. Why can’t women “womenstruate”?

      1. Why should woMEN be woMEN – why not wopersons, or even better woperdaughters.

          1. No = connotations about being laid. Anyway, not all feperdaughters are lay-dees.

      2. Why should woMEN be woMEN – why not wopersons, or even better woperdaughters.

    4. “Prof Davina Cooper” Presumably David Cooper until he started his hormone drugs.

      1. That is a distinct possibility as “she” is involved in this:-
        CRITIQUE Lecture Abolishing Legal Sex – 16 June 2022, 3:30 pm

        CRITIQUE Lecture by Prof Davina Cooper, KCL: “Abolishing legal sex: The challenges, risks, and pleasures of prefigurative law reform”.

        Davina Cooper is a Research Professor in Law and Political Theory. She is an interdisciplinary scholar, whose work focuses on concepts, transformative politics, state activism, and experimental communities. She currently directs an ESRC funded research project on the Future of Legal Gender – which explores the implications of abolishing legal sex and gender status. Her books include Challenging Diversity: Rethinking Equality and the Value of Difference (CUP, 2004); Everyday Utopias: The Conceptual Life of Promising Spaces (Duke 2014) and Feeling like a State: Desire, Denial, and the Recasting of Authority (Duke, 2019).

        Commentator: Prof Sharon Cowan, Edinburgh University.

        Location: Chrystal Macmillan Building, Violet Laidlaw Room (6th Floor), 15 George Square, Edinburgh.

        The event is free but you need to register on Eventbrite.

        https://critique.sps.ed.ac.uk/critique-lecture-abolishing-legal-sex-16-june-2022-330-pm/

    5. Shove the trans people. They’re mentally ill. We must stop pandering to them and treat them as needing help, not indulgence.

      There are two genders, male and female. Beside some incredibly rare bioligical events that’s it. Nothing else.

    6. What happens to women who have gone through the menopause (and thus no longer menstruate)?

  12. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6fcabac9ea33248b0bdb57a2e4efc2abe02253cb33e40f0f96af1b78b623baaa.png Good grief, woman; you sound as anally-retentive as my sister-in-law who also jumps on her soapbox and waves her arms in indignation on the same topic. Behave yourselves! Jelly has been an intrinsic part of many trifle recipes for generations. If you don’t want it in yours then fine, but stop telling the rest of us who love it that we are “wrong”.

    1. Oh Mr. Grizz! The only time we had jelly in a trifle was when my Gran bought a Birds trifle kit! With the ‘Birds creamed droppings’ on the top! Never again!

        1. I have, when we all used to join in with the cooking at Christmas. Part of the fun, particularly adding the sherry to properly soak the sponge.

        2. Try it! Make it up as you go along! Ratafia biscuits with the sherry/amaretto/ whatever, raspberries, good custard and whipped cream! No jelly!

          1. I’m not really into puddings at all. Simple strawberries 🍓 and raspberries do for me.

          2. Lady’s fingers (sponge biscuits); fresh raspberries; home-made raspberry jelly; home-made vanilla custard (proper crême patissière with eggs); whipped cream; shaved chocolate topping. NO SHERRY!

            [Mum always drowned hers in cheap sherry and killed it as a treat!]

          3. I hate toasted almonds. I love ’em raw, though. I never toast them when I make an almond panna cotta, much preferring to steep the cream in raw almond slivers.

          4. Speak up, will you? I have jelly in one ear and custard in the other. [I’m a trifle deaf!]

          5. I did a bread and butter pudding with rum soaked raisins. Where would we be without booze? !

          6. It would have been good if it had had good sherry in it! See mine above, and I’m sticking with it!

            Lady’s fingers are coated with sugar…

          7. I had some sherry last night. Chilled Tio Pepe fino served with home-made tapas selection. Clams and razor clams in a salsa verde; squid in a chickpea and roasted pepper salad; large prawns and chorizo in a garlic/chilli tomato sauce; mussels, Spanish-style; tortilla with red peppers; garlic bread. It went down really well.
            For pudding: Portuguese pastel de nata (custard tarts, flavoured with cinnamon and lemon rind).

        3. Oooh I have: a decent jam swiss roll sliced and well-soaked in sherry, then fruits of choice (strawberries and other similar, or alternatively bananas, satsumas and halved black grapes (or should that grapes of colour?) with a bit more sherry. Then home-made custard with nutmeg (the spice) in it (that pimple on the *rse of the Royals gets everywhere, doesn’t she?). Finally, whipped cream, with more fruit decoration on top…

          Think the trifle scene with Ronnie Barker in Futtocks End – I couldn’t find a link to it.

        4. Oooh I have: a decent jam swiss roll sliced and well-soaked in sherry, then fruits of choice (strawberries and other similar, or alternatively bananas, satsumas and halved black grapes (or should that grapes of colour?) with a bit more sherry. Then home-made custard with nutmeg (the spice) in it (that pimple on the *rse of the Royals gets everywhere, doesn’t she?). Finally, whipped cream, with more fruit decoration on top…

          Think the trifle scene with Ronnie Barker in Futtocks End – I couldn’t find a link to it.

    2. Jelly is an essential constituent of proper sherry trifle. But I wonder whether those little individual corrugated paper cups of jelly we used to get at parties with a blob of awful cream substitute on top still exist?

    3. Jelly stays in my trifles, because (a) it’s nice, and (b) pork gelatine is good for you.
      IIRC, the sherry trifle recipe in “Farmhouse Cookery” is the traditional one without jelly.

    4. There are better alternatives in trifle, or at least to reduce the jelly and use it as a suspension for fruits.

      Although putting fruit in a dessert should be illegal.

      1. “Although putting fruit in a dessert should be illegal.”

        What do you put into your desserts? Steak and kidney? Cheese? Brussels Sprouts?

    5. I think it’s a north/south thing; the southerners like jelly, from my experience. Though I stand to be corrected.

      I am with Sue, below – there is no place for jelly in a trifle (I hail from the Midlands).

      I also do not like cold soup, btw.

      1. No vichyssoise or gazpacho for you then. I’m from t’north and feelings are split among the natives over jelly.

        1. It’s as emotive as the pronunciation of the word “scone” (we are divided on this in our family) and the whole cream/jam on scone issue. Forget the trans and gender wars- this is where the resl battle lines are being drawn🙂

  13. Antony Beevor doesn’t fully explore the tale behind the USSR’s birth, but he still produces a well-researched volume. Peter Hitchens. 5 june 2022

    In the late summer of 1914 a small, nasty man was arrested as an enemy alien in a remote corner of the Austrian empire.Six years later that same man, by then much nastier, was the murderous ruler of one sixth of the Earth’s surface, and the Austrian empire had ceased to exist.

    The man was Vladimir Lenin. He hated Russia, his own country, and he invented the ruthless modern form of Communism that went on to tyrannise Europe and Asia. He was the bitter enemy of all empires except his own.

    Yet the Austrian and German empires thought they could use him. They appreciated his efforts to promote Ukrainian nationalism.

    Then, these ultra-conservative monarchists sprang him from prison and conveyed him to safety in neutral Switzerland.

    Later, they arranged for him and his clique of Bolshevik agitators (whom they would normally have arrested on sight) to return to Russia across Germany. And there they supplied his movement with nine tons of gold to help him ruin Russia.

    Thanks to them he was able to overthrow Russia’s first liberal democracy in a ruthless putsch, which was the beginning of 70 years of police-state terror.

    In return for these favours, Lenin pulled Russia out of the First World War, so allowing Germany to send huge numbers of troops to the Western Front. There they came within an inch of breaking through to the Channel and defeating Britain and France.

    He also handed Germany vast slices of Russian territory, not least Ukraine, important then, as now, as a pivot of power.
    All this is known, including the role in it of the most sinister and cynical secret agent ever known, the weirdly named Parvus Helphand. Yet you will barely find a word of this in Antony Beevor’s new book about the Russian Revolution.

    Mr Beevor is a fine historian – diligent, conscientious and knowledgeable, with a long list of excellent books behind him. This volume is well researched and full of telling detail. I have read every word of it.

    But, like so many before him, he has not felt quite able to acknowledge the role of Germany and its Austrian ally in the deliberate crushing of Russian freedom and the creation of the Soviet prison state.

    For many decades, widespread Left-wing admiration for the Soviet Union made it hard to tell the squalid truth, that Lenin was a German agent and the much-romanticised ‘revolution’ a miserable foreign-inspired coup d’etat.
    Now there is a new problem.

    Post-Communist Russia, trying to grope its way back to the lost democracy of 1917, was dismissed as a pariah state by Western neo-conservatives such as Paul Wolfowitz long before Vladimir Putin launched his stupid, barbaric war in Ukraine.

    Russia and Russians are increasingly portrayed as paranoid and obsessed with plots to encircle and attack them. If the truth were better known, perhaps more people would realise that Russians have good reason to fear for their security and stability.

    Peter Hitchens sneaking his way around his D Notice with a book review Lol!!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/event/article-10868279/Russia-Revolution-Civil-War-review-nasty-truth-Lenin.html

    1. Morning Minty and all. I’m just finishing reading (at long last) “The Gulag Archipelago’ It makes for sober reading. Truly astonishing brutality by the operatives employed by the State and a cowed and helpless populace. I would love to know Mr Putin’s thoughts on this blackest of black chapter in Russia’s history and on what scale penal colonies still exist in Russia today.

      1. Morning Stephen I suppose that his thoughts conform to those of Johnson on Iraq and Libya.

        Penal colonies in Russia are in no way equal to their US equivalents in either inmate numbers or the dire conditions.

  14. Antony Beevor doesn’t fully explore the tale behind the USSR’s birth, but he still produces a well-researched volume. Peter Hitchens. 5 june 2022

    In the late summer of 1914 a small, nasty man was arrested as an enemy alien in a remote corner of the Austrian empire.Six years later that same man, by then much nastier, was the murderous ruler of one sixth of the Earth’s surface, and the Austrian empire had ceased to exist.

    The man was Vladimir Lenin. He hated Russia, his own country, and he invented the ruthless modern form of Communism that went on to tyrannise Europe and Asia. He was the bitter enemy of all empires except his own.

    Yet the Austrian and German empires thought they could use him. They appreciated his efforts to promote Ukrainian nationalism.

    Then, these ultra-conservative monarchists sprang him from prison and conveyed him to safety in neutral Switzerland.

    Later, they arranged for him and his clique of Bolshevik agitators (whom they would normally have arrested on sight) to return to Russia across Germany. And there they supplied his movement with nine tons of gold to help him ruin Russia.

    Thanks to them he was able to overthrow Russia’s first liberal democracy in a ruthless putsch, which was the beginning of 70 years of police-state terror.

    In return for these favours, Lenin pulled Russia out of the First World War, so allowing Germany to send huge numbers of troops to the Western Front. There they came within an inch of breaking through to the Channel and defeating Britain and France.

    He also handed Germany vast slices of Russian territory, not least Ukraine, important then, as now, as a pivot of power.
    All this is known, including the role in it of the most sinister and cynical secret agent ever known, the weirdly named Parvus Helphand. Yet you will barely find a word of this in Antony Beevor’s new book about the Russian Revolution.

    Mr Beevor is a fine historian – diligent, conscientious and knowledgeable, with a long list of excellent books behind him. This volume is well researched and full of telling detail. I have read every word of it.

    But, like so many before him, he has not felt quite able to acknowledge the role of Germany and its Austrian ally in the deliberate crushing of Russian freedom and the creation of the Soviet prison state.

    For many decades, widespread Left-wing admiration for the Soviet Union made it hard to tell the squalid truth, that Lenin was a German agent and the much-romanticised ‘revolution’ a miserable foreign-inspired coup d’etat.
    Now there is a new problem.

    Post-Communist Russia, trying to grope its way back to the lost democracy of 1917, was dismissed as a pariah state by Western neo-conservatives such as Paul Wolfowitz long before Vladimir Putin launched his stupid, barbaric war in Ukraine.

    Russia and Russians are increasingly portrayed as paranoid and obsessed with plots to encircle and attack them. If the truth were better known, perhaps more people would realise that Russians have good reason to fear for their security and stability.

    Peter Hitchens sneaking his way around his D Notice with a book review Lol!!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/event/article-10868279/Russia-Revolution-Civil-War-review-nasty-truth-Lenin.html

    1. What are they singing, do you know? Starmer looks as though he wishes a Marxist/WEF helicopter would appear and get him out of there!

    1. it was discovered a few years ago that some muslims living in ghettos in Britain believe that Britain is majority muslim.

      1. More likely to be because that is what they are told by their Imams. Many of them don’t seem to be able to think for themselves. Maybe their brains have atrophied – it would explain a lot.

          1. Is that because lots of them can’t speak ENglish and don’t bother to learn?

          2. Probably. If you’re a bride brought over from some remote village (the men think girls from rural areas are purer…not since the advent of satellite TV, I can tell you…) then your place is firmly in the house, and you’ve no reason to go gadding around learning English and picking up men.

          3. Well they can fec k off back to their village then, plus their opportunist husbands.

      2. To be honest ,

        I often wonder whether all elected government members have hidden their heads in the sand , and hear more calls from the muezim than the toll of church bells?

        1. Our abbatoirs are apparently mainly compliant to their halal way of killing. Either because they are owned by muslims or because they sell to muslims (might as well be slaughtered for a sheep as for a lamb, eh? – to misquote an old phrase).

          It’s time we put our foot down, like the Danes have done, and said no halal slaughter, and no veils in this country. If they don’t like it they can go somewhere else. Hopefully.

          1. Why don’t we just get rid of them entirely? Most are welfare dependent. Very few work. They’re having far too many children, a high proportion of whom are in-bred. They refuse to integrate, cause incredible disruption and that’s the demographic that all recent terrorism has come from.

            They bring nothing, cost everything.

          2. Cos everything can be got for free and the lazy bastards don’t need to work while we muggins keep them

          3. I keep saying we need a reconquista, a Gates of Vienna moment. Where is John Sobieski when you need him?

        2. Our abbatoirs are apparently mainly compliant to their halal way of killing. Either because they are owned by muslims or because they sell to muslims (might as well be slaughtered for a sheep as for a lamb, eh? – to misquote an old phrase).

          It’s time we put our foot down, like the Danes have done, and said no halal slaughter, and no veils in this country. If they don’t like it they can go somewhere else. Hopefully.

    2. Well, just look at the proportion of white people in last night’s farrago.

    3. I suspect that when the most recent census is fully analysed those figures will change dramatically

        1. The scale of normalised corruption, fraud and theft in the ethnic minorities is staggering. It is far more sensible to use Tesco’s footfall figures. They place the population – thanks to the malice of Brown, Blair, Mandelscum at over 80 million. That, along with inflation, debt and fiat currency are why we’re in a total mess.

          1. That’s because corruption etc. is the norm in the cesspit they come from. They bring their carp mentality with them, and we are supposed to welcome it.

          2. That’s because corruption etc. is the norm is the cesspit they come from. They bring their carp mentality with them, and we are supposed to welcome it.

    4. Morning all. Amazing figures. Of course people think the figures are much higher because politicians give these minority groups pre-eminence!

    5. Double Lammy, the anti White Crusader, will “come out” as Black Muslim Gayman.

    6. I expect it could be also due to the way the TV channels so rapidly place people of ‘ethnic minorities’ and diverse religious cultures in to view immediately after we have been watching all these hediously white parades surrounding the Queen’s celebrations. They don’t seem to like, or are able to cope with the hundreds of thousands of people in the Mall and the overall majority of the British military being white.

    7. And the number of those who think they have been ‘misgendered’ is a fraction of 1%.

      And for this Women’s Sport is going to be destroyed.

    8. But … but … according to adverts the population is 80% black and white men have vanished off the face of the earth.
      Surely they’re not lying to us!

      1. And of course representing the most violent, most unlikely to succeed, most single parent, most abandoned children and most [bword] children and of course, most likely to be utterly state dependent and least likely to pay child maintenance.

      2. And of course representing the most violent, most unlikely to succeed, most single parent, most abandoned children and most [bword] children and of course, most likely to be utterly state dependent and least likely to pay child maintenance.

      3. Judging by the adverts I saw this afternoon, the population is 100% black! Every time I glanced at the screen during the advert breaks, it had a black face on it.

    9. Grossly. And they are given far too much airtime, far too much publicity and far too much money poured into them from the public purse.

    1. One of my neighbours installed a pool. By the time they sold their house, the pool was a lawn…

    1. It’s all done for charidee. Just like Oirish Wogan did “Children in Need” for charidee – £200,000 for the Wogan Pension Fund.

  15. Well it all appears to be Boris bashing again on the tv and radio, it looks like someone in a high place wants him removed.

    1. Boris Johnson’s great mistake was not making an electoral pact with Nigel Farage before the general election. He needed a far more pro-Brexit party behind him and many too many remainers – who should have been deselected – are still in the parliamentary party. Many of these are now grabbing the opportunity afforded them by Johnson’s weakness and lack of commitment to Brexit.

      If Johnson is kicked out the only solution I can see is for all the Conservative MPs who are in favour of Brexit to resign their seats and either form a new right of centre party led by Lord Frost or a committed Brexiteer like Steve Baker or to join Richard Tice’s Reform Party.

      1. Johnson gave nothing in return for Farage withdrawing his candidates (which alone makes Farage a shill).

        Johnson was never a Brexiteer – he had two papers available, one for Brexit and one against. He is just a fat, rather disgusting opportunist, who thinks he is far more intelligent than he is. His latest wife is even worse, and he foisted that scrubber onto us and has brought in her mad green ideas completely outside the manifesto he was voted into power on.

        It’s a shame that the Trades Descriptions legislation does not apply to twits like him and his shills.

        Edited loads of times because of finger slips – as usual.

    2. Probably Boris. Staying around and fixing his shit isn’t his long suit, is it.

  16. Well, it’s good to know that the cause of all the athletes and other people dropping dead or going to sleep and never waking up has been identified. SADS i.e. Sudden Adult Death Syndrome is stalking the World. According to a specialist in Dublin it is likely a genetic problem and he wants clinical gene sequencing on the menu in Ireland. Of course he does!
    What can be affecting the genetic make-up of adults across a wide age range such that they just drop dead? My totally unscientific take on the cause of this syndrome is of course Climate Change. This is why Net Zero is just sooooo important. What other major change recently has been introduced into the human experience other than increased carbon dioxide into the atmosphere that we all breathe?

    Now we know what the problem is, and we get the all-clear from mass gene sequencing, will we be able sleep a bit more soundly, for some, so soundly that they’ll never wake up, in our beds?
    I smell BS.

    The New Killer – Sudden Adult Death Syndrome Has Arrived

    1. Yeah, tell ’em CO² is just a trace gas making up 0.04% of the atmosphere. The dangerous gas is that emanating from the Great Dublin Pharrrt.

  17. Yo All

    Definition of Windfall: :an unexpected, unearned, or sudden gain or advantage.

    Therefore

    Windfall Tax is a Dai Chotomy to the people who have to pay it

    The money collected will do no-one any good, only generate more Snivel service jobs

    What should happen is the companies reduce their profit by lowering prices, therefore getting a greater turn over….
    which increase production/profit sale/Tax etc

    Back in the late 80’s the government in there wisdom, raised tax on vehicle fuel and introduced lower speed limits

    Result, no-one drove anywhere, Tax from fuel dropped alarmingly

    Then HMG reduced fuel Tax, people drove, more fuel sold, more Tax revenue

    As I am being PM on only Mondays and Wednesdays, I squeeze being Chancellor on Friday afternoons
    (I will be working from home for ths job)

    1. Companies do not pay tax.
      They collect tax from their customers, that’s you and me, and pass it on to the government. Calling it a windfall tax makes it sound better to us plebs.

          1. Sadly they don’t. The pettiness, immaturity and plain ignorance of far too many people is staggering.

          2. Not when you realise what the PTB have been doing to our society, especially our educational system, for the last few decades. Plus the MSM, both written (for those that are still able, or can be bothered, to read) and especially on television. The latter being as far as many of them go towards anything outside themselves.

          3. I’m sure they don’t. These are the same people who talk about “the government” paying for X, Y or Z. The “government” has NO money, only what it takes from taxpayers, so it’s the taxpayers who will be paying.

      1. Sadly, so many millions of people are just too damned thick to understand that. I despair sometimes. Folk are dumb beyond measure. That’s how the state keeps them poor.

    2. No, what should happen is that company passes the additional cost on to consumers.

      Of course, what *should* happen is the state says ‘right, the public cannot afford to pay 50% energy taxes. That will have to go. We’ll also raid the windmills and tell them subsidy ends today.

      1. I see from the Telegaffe that Fataturk & Co are probably going to exempt wind farms from any “windfall tax” on energy companies – possibly ‘cos their mates are making too much profit from them?

        1. No, the tax will be introduced in the Autumn.
          Wind-Fall; I’ll get my windcheater.

  18. ‘Morning All

    Already covered but worth more comment

    HAHAHAHAHA

    Breathe

    HAHAHAHAHA

    Wokey Southgate manages to get adult fans banned from the England/Hungary match and is”furious” when the kids boo his virtue-signalling cretins

    I can hear the grinding of woke teeth from space it’s hilarious,70’s girly nails it

    https://twitter.com/70s_70sgirl/status/1533172869227855872?s=21
    Edit
    That the gutless DT allows no comments makes it even funnier

    1. Hi Rik,

      The website indicates that there are three similar job vacancies ref 213341, 213449 and 213398. Trying to read through the fog, it would appear that the programme is due to end by April 2023. I guess that the incumbents are jumping ship. One woman leaving the programme is Haroona Irshad Franklin, a 53 year old civil servant (ie it isn’t maternity leave). It looks like vacancies that they are obliged to advertise but which may never be filled.

    1. I don’t understand why, when the criminals are all together in the boat we don’t just keep them there and drag them back to france, destroy the boat and let them swim for it.

  19. Hi all. The weather’s a bit undecided at the mo. Bowls this arvo so

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    2. A process of elimination today.

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    1. Remind me of my right not to be offended.
      What’s that? I don’t have one?

    2. The Shia Islamic scholar Yasser Al-Habib, who has written the script of the movie, has voiced his support, stating that:

      This film conveys a message of love and peace. It is a call to a better mindset when dealing with challenges. I am certain that should humanity follow in the steps of The Lady; peace, justice, and equality will prevail and triumph. I pray for this to happen.

      There’s obviously some disagreement from his co-religionists! Surprise. Surprise!

    3. Whenever they get uppity we should move them on and say, well, you can always go somewhere else.

      Their frantic attempts to control what we can do must be stopped. In fact, let’s not make it an offer to leave, but a request that they do. Integrate or be expelled. This isn’t their country.

      1. Ban Halal and with a bit of luck a good many might leave. Banning burkas might help. Let’s make ’em feel unwelcome and, if the woke get uppity, they can join them in leaving.

    1. I love your happy sociable photos Phizzee, it is like the land of the nearly dead around these parts .

      Too many elderlies , miseries and new comers , lots of activities for local children, a football match etc , and something in the village hall

      I think Swanage is the only happy place to be over this Jubilee period.

        1. For another few days you are still as young as Johnny Depp (an American actor, m’lud).

    2. My grandfather would never wear a baseball hat. You must have bribed him to put it on for the photoshoot.

      1. They used to call baseball hats IQ reducers: worn the right way round they reduce the wearer’s IQ by 50%; worn back to front they reduce the wearer’s IQ by 100%.

    1. Not this one. I recall when I moved here, kero was 7p a litre…!!

      We just KBO.

    2. Thankfully, I have a solid fuel Rayburn. If the worst comes to the worst I shall take my wheelbarrow and go foraging for kindling and wood to keep it going. In fact, it was so cold and damp today I lit the Rayburn. I could have put the oil heating on, but I worried about the cost of refilling the tank and the Rayburn not only heats the house, but heats the hot water, boils the kettle and cooks the food. More bang for the same buck.

    1. There are far too few people as lucid and coherent as Neil Oliver.

      However, the most frightening thing about him is that he is so often completely right.

      1. It’s taken him long enough. Piece together all my rants and strip out the dross and you’ve got his script!

        1. He did admit in private that he’s been holding back in order not to get cancelled, and vowed to be braver.

      2. It’s taken him long enough. Piece together all my rants and strip out the dross and you’ve got his script!

  20. Must get ready to go to the Village Hall for Jubilee bring and share.

    Toodles.

    1. There should be a published list of all those who are keen to conceal the fact that they have not had the Covid vaccination while they urge others to have it.

      I am nearly 76 years old and damnably tubby to boot. And yet when I got Covid it was very mild even though I am a gene therapy virgin as far as the Covid jabs are concerned as my GP (who has subsequently been struck off) advised me not to have them.

      However my sister-in-law, who has had the Covid prick at least three times, got Covid and was really quite ill and in bed for a week.

      1. The oik who is head of AZ got a knighthood in the Honours- I still have bloody red spots appearing on my arms and a swollen foot and ankle. Where’s my gong?

    2. There should be a published list of all those who are keen to conceal the fact that they have not had the Covid vaccination while they urge others to have it.

      I am nearly 76 years old and damnably tubby to boot. And yet when I got Covid it was very mild even though I am gene therapy virgin.

      However my sister-in-law, who has had the Covid prick at least three times, got Covid and was really quite ill and in bed for a week.

    3. There should be a list of those who will only employ ‘jabbed’ workers

      Then, I can avoid using them

      1. Just like his father. Castles for him, but new houses should be built in rows for the peasants, because it uses too much land otherwise (i.e. if people have bigger gardens).

        1. I walk through a new build area. It extends an older Victoria series. The new houses have no gardens, no outside space at all. The houses are crammed in cheek to cheek, a block of flats beside them. Only 3 high, but in the space where 7 homes have been crammed there would have been 3, with land around them.

    1. Operated by a charter company.
      Edit: usually they provide good finger food, sarnies etc.

    2. He is using a ‘bag for life though’…that surely grants him enough carbon credits !

        1. These birds all look the same to me. Two wings, two claws and a very unpleasant looking beak…

  21. ARRGGHHHH

    The “You couldn’t make it up files” gets a bitter outing several NoTTLers will go through the roof!!

    “NHS funding private healthcare for staff while patients face record waiting lists

    Hospitals and ambulance trusts are paying for employees to undergo private care ranging from MRI scans to physiotherapy”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/04/nhs-funding-private-healthcare-staff-patients-face-record-waiting/
    BTL are not happy campers!!

    1. I am hoppin’ effin’ 😡 mad. Expletives deleted. How else can people express their frustration other than swearing. I am one of the lucky ones who is not in need of any medical help but there are so many we know being totally ignored or fobbed off or have had operations cancelled. And to read this … as I say, more expletives deleted. I hate this government with a passion.

      1. No doubt the nurses won’t be covered – just the administrative staff. The troughers, hangers on and wasters. Another example of why the NHS is hideously overfunded.

      2. Like I kep writing – sell it off, implement an insurance scheme as in Germany, and watch the heath system actually fix people.

    2. What is wrong is the ridiculous socialist division between government hospitals and private hospitals. If everyone has a health insurance like in France and Germany, then all hospitals are the same, they just treat patients and bill the appropriate insurance.

      1. Try the hatred of private medicine over here, it is literally illegal to provide private Healthcare (minor exceptions for visit and politicians naturally).

        1. Bonkers.
          If you try to make an appointment with the NHS with a private health insurance card from another country, they react as though you’re trying to steal healthcare, instead of offering to pay for it.
          And they can’t see how ridiculous their USSR ideas are!

    3. And they’re trying to tell me I can’t have my husband in the waiting room while they slice at my face! I will decide about that- not some bossy receptionist.

  22. Homes and businesses with existing EV chargers will be required to ensure they have smart charging capabilities. These regulations will be introduced on June 30, and will be intended to help managed the strain on the National Grid with thousands of electric cars charging at once. It is hoped the change will encourage drivers to use smarter tariffs to avoid charging during peak hours, which tend to be through the daytime.

    https://www.essexlive.news/news/motoring/highway-code-changes-new-driving-7153110

    The requirement for people with EV chargers installed at their homes looks as though this will have be implemented by forcing EV charge point installers to implement smart charging systems for homes needing to draw the large EV currents from the Natiinal Grid.

    This a further erosion of the choices available for home owners who have large electrical load requurements needed to maintain their quality of life given that, currently, energy providers are only required by the Government to use ‘all reasonable means’ to persuade home owners to have a smart meter.

    This could be the thin end of the wedge should smart meters actually inhibit EV charging during the day for night workers.

    1. As Neil Oliver has suggested the whole point of electric cars has little to do with the environment but everything to do with making cars so expensive that the proles will be driven off the roads because they cannot afford the costs of buying and running an electric car.

    2. Too many at once and ‘ping’ you’re switched off and fcuk your EV charging.

    3. To provide the same amount of energy by replacing every ICE car with an electric ones would require a doubling of our energy generating capacity. Our government is intent on reducing that capacity.

      Of course, the calculations were for new vehicles, not 5-10 year old ones that need to be recharged more frequently.

    4. At last they acknowledge there isn’t enough ‘leccy for their utopian dream.

      1. It has never been about electric cars or pollution. It is about control. If you can stop someone travelling, you control where and what they can do. It’s about (no pun intended) power.

        On the upside, when the blackouts come and the greeniacs want the police because there’s a mob outside, no one will answer.

          1. Thank you, Johnathan, for the down vote against Untermenschen. To reciprocate, I am at least telling you why you get mine.

      1. Why are we bothering to investigate the police officers conduct? The scum should have been shot, not tasered.

          1. With this kind of thing, why would anyone join the police, Grizz?
            Damned if you do, damned if you dont, and if you did, there’s an investigation taht might result in your being fired.

          2. I was more than happy to join up in 1973, Paul. Under no circumstances would I even think about doing so in the 21st century.

          3. I even applied to be a Special, back in 1987. I’d not go for that again. Too much negative.
            Also, I’m too old and too broken, but that’s a different story. Better at managing people though, due to age and experience.

        1. Hmm. “Loonie in possession of a small screwdriver shot dead.” Or, maybe, “Police take small screwdriver from loonie then shoot him dead”.
          If someone who may be nuts dies after contact with police, I’d say that the police did not handle things correctly. (Mr Stanley was shot dead by police following an anonymous phone call from a bloke in a pub. Mr Stanley, all unwary, did not realise that the armed police were referring to him when they said “stop!” If they did shout and if he heard them. He was entirely innocent.)
          Now the bloke in Kirkcaldy, alive and well until accosted by police. He was soon to become dead in police custody.

    1. Please, don’t waste the money getting him out nor treating his injuries. If he should happen to find a large heavy weight landing on his face, just shift it back so it could fall again?

    2. How come that so many BAMEs have mental problems?

      Edit: I mean, as opposed to ordinary English, Welsh, N. Irish, or Scottish (maybe). I don’t say British, because anyone can become British – the passport comes out of a cornflake packet. Is it something in their genes? Or their 6th century beliefs? Or what? Or are they just a bit sub- whatever it was that Enlightenment etc. brought to the West?

        1. Not inbreeding? Or their stone-age beliefs? Give a monkey a machine-gun and you will get what we have.

          1. Prior to the onset of cancel culture, low IQ was the accepted view of evolutionary biologists. Humanity evolved to meet the challenges of survival, so the theory goes. So those who had it toughest, emerged smartest. Jews and Icelanders are tops in the IQ stakes.

          2. …and our West African and muslim unwanted incomers aren’t very bright. Surprise, surprise – but of course we have to welcome them and to pay for them to be here. Strewth!

          3. Ahem. Japan, Korea, Singapore are around 110.
            UK had an average of 100, probably less now, and Israel somewhere in the mid nineties.

            https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country
            According to this site, the UK has slipped to 99, but it also puts China at 104 – earlier results put China about equal to or less than Europe. I can’t help feeling this site has rather a pro-China bias, as it puts China higher than Korea!

          4. When I see IQ charts, it always reminds me that Koko the gorilla scored 90. Smarter than most of the human race.

          5. That comes with the rest. THEY’re stone age mentals expected to live in a modern world.

          1. It doesn’t matter – the ignoramus probably doesn’t realise it counts for naught, unless you’re brave enough to tell why.

            I think It’s Johnathan Wynne Evans.

      1. Really, this is tiresome. He made the choice to jump (and made a pigs ear of it) and the taser is nowhere nearly as effective as that.

          1. Try Ohms for resistance
            Amps for Current, and…
            Voltage for Electromotive Force (EMF)

          2. It was corrected within one nanosecond (Nannysecond?) of posting. If you’d refreshed you would know that. As for all the terms for electricity, I passed exams for that way back in the late 60s/early 70s. I even remember the conversion factors for determining power (Watts) given potential difference (Volts) and current (Amps); as well as determining Volts given Amps and Ohms.

    3. Currently in a critical condition.

      Is that from the Thames or the Volts

      What size and type of screwdriver was it?

    4. All that rolling around – could he be a Premier League footballer? And then he takes a dive.

    5. All that rolling around – could he be a Premier League footballer? And then he takes a dive.

      1. Oh no….now we are going to have to put up with more virtue signalling from people who would have shirked his company………….

      2. Does that mean the England footballers will now go down on one knee for a minute and then throw themselves to the ground shaking for another minute before pretending to swim and then stop and lie still?

    6. https://www.irishpost.com/news/elderly-man-lawfully-killed-traveller-broke-london-home-forced-hiding-166408

      A screw driver can be a lethal weapon.

      Remember this case three years ago when a gypsy armed with a long screw driver broke and entered a 79 year householder’s home and the old chap managed to defend himself and the robbing gypsy was killed in the tussle?

      The gypsy community was outraged that a householder should be allowed to defend his life, his home and his property and threatened the man who had been found innocent in court with violent reprisals. The poor old chap had to move from the place where he lived for decades in order to be safe from scum attacks.

      1. A bloody appalling case. The gyppos ought to have been stamped on and stamped on HARD.

      2. I’m rather amazed by the fact that so many seem to think this is acceptable behaviour from two policemen. Easier to Taser a guy than disarm him – not the land we were brought up in.

      3. I remember that case – the ‘travellers’ set up a shrine opposite the house.

    7. Seems a Policeman of colour was involved. I suppose there will be no repercussions or rioting…..

  23. Who. is the Indian-looking lady behind Charles who has been asleep for the last half an hour?

    1. No idea, but stick her in there front central if she’s not white. Can’t have those uppity peasants getting above themselves just because it’s a jubilee – got to remind them what’s what.

  24. I had the TV on mute before switching it off. The ‘pageant’ is certainly a spectacle. Not sure whether to laugh or cry at the antics of celebrities and other exhibitionists making fools of themselves.

    1. One glance at the front page of the DM was enough to make me want to throw up! I cannot stand the mess that the woke make out of national celebrations!
      “National Treasure” double decker buses indeed! They are full of the most ghastly venal hangers-on imaginable!

      My National Treasure double decker buses would have
      – holgrams of Enoch Powell and Margaret Thatcher
      – Norman Tebbit
      – Nigel Farage
      – Laurence Fox
      – James Delingpole
      – Neil Oliver
      – Kathy Gyngell
      – Geoff Graham for services to NOTTL
      – David Bellamy, cancelled by the BBC, admired by intelligent, thinking people
      – Trevor Philips, because he saw the light
      – Matt Le Tissier
      – John Barnes
      – the Countess of Mar for years of selfless hard work

      I’ve missed out loads of people, but you get my drift…

        1. I often do.

          I think some of us on the Nottlers could form a clique of those who seem to have very similar opinions on virtually everything! Is it because we are exceptionally intelligent, rational, wise, good humoured and agreeable?

      1. Especially Geoff – who gives us this space for our grumpy criticisms every day.

    2. One glance at the front page of the DM was enough to make me want to throw up! I cannot stand the mess that the woke make out of national celebrations!
      “National Treasure” double decker buses indeed! They are full of the most ghastly venal hangers-on imaginable!

      My National Treasure double decker buses would have
      – holgrams of Enoch Powell and Margaret Thatcher
      – Norman Tebbit
      – Nigel Farage
      – Laurence Fox
      – James Delingpole
      – Neil Oliver
      – Kathy Gyngell
      – Geoff Graham for services to NOTTL
      – David Bellamy, cancelled by the BBC, admired by intelligent, thinking people
      – Trevor Philips, because he saw the light
      – Matt Le Tissier
      – John Barnes
      – the Countess of Mar for years of selfless hard work

      I’ve missed out loads of people, but you get my drift…

    3. We’ve enjoyed our local celebrations and not watched any of the so called ‘pageants’ and ‘concerts’. Two minutes of last night’s fandango on the ‘news’ was quite enough, thanks.

      1. Very little is said about the conviction many people had that if Prince Andrew appeared in front of a US court he would be found guilty no matter how innocent he was.

        I still find it quite disgusting that his brother and his nephew have not stood by him and honoured the concept of habeas corpus entrenched in British law that a person is considered innocent until proven guilty. I am not surprised that Andrew was considered to have been his mother’s favourite. Raffish sons are often loved more by their mothers than sons who are stuffed shirts

          1. Blow the wind southerly, southerly, southerly,
            Blow the wind south o’e the bonny blue sea…..

    1. The zip on the red quilted jacket makes the glass look like there’s a leak…

  25. Looking at the pictures that accompany this DM article :

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10886711/Expressive-Prince-Louis-steals-four-year-old-clenches-fists.html

    I cannot help thinking that Prince Louis is a spoilt little brat who deserves to have a warmly smacked bottom.

    (Bill Thomas disagreed with me about him yesterday – but surely Bill is not so tolerant that he find tongues stuck out and extended finger salutes from the nose appropriate gestures?)

    1. You must have misunderstood, Richard.

      I thought his behaviour on the Balcony on Thursday was appalling. I found it extraordinary that the meeja regarded it as “cute”.

      1. Good heavens. Just saw it in Rastus’s DM link. How on earth does a child of that age know to give that finger on the nose salute? And shushing his mother too! Not cute at all. Way too full of himself. Am I being fanciful to detect a certain likeness to Great Uncle Andrew?

          1. I sometimes read my own comment and then upvote it because it’s such a jolly good comment (of course!), forgetting that I posted it myself earlier…..

      1. The two yesterday evening – certainly. Silly to let them stay up so late. See the start – and the Queen with the Fox (or whatever it was) then off to bed.

          1. I thought it was Grizzly. If he carries on eating all those marmalade sandwiches, he’ll start to put on weight and will have to re-start his diet and do more bicycling! Lol.

        1. Yes, but Louis was not allowed to stay up on Saturday night, and the two who did (George and Charlotte) seemed very well behaved on the Sunday.

      1. Indeed, there were a couple next to me on Saturday. The parents did nothing to correct them, just let them get away with unruly behaviour. In the end I had to move away before I said something that would have upset the parents. My dog, for all his faults, is better behaved than they were!

    2. He’s a kid who’s bored, to alleviate that boredom he is misbehaving. if I don’t walk Mongo, play with him (well, Junior does those things), or even talk to him, he gets bored and eats my slippers or drinks from the loo.

      Sadly, this behaviour is normal. There is nothing even the most amazing parent can do about it. Heck, the other day we had Junior creeping around long after his bed time. The excuse? “Mongo wanted some more trifle.” Now, putting aside the late night eating, the blaming the dog and the being out of bed, hitting the kid would do nothing – and having been hit with a rolling pin as a child myself know it teaches you nothing (until the day you pull the weapon from your mother and laugh as she’s faced with a giant, strong much younger male she has no ability to control when force disappears).

      What the lad needed was to go home, sit in his room and play with his toys. He’s too young to realise – all part of the dreadful life these people have to live.

      1. Just to repeat this, though, it seems to me that George has a real problem .

        I do hope William hasn’t gurned on about the tragedy that befell the boys Grandmother Diane… the young lad looks dull eyed and put upon , George needs to be tickled untill he laughs .

        1. William probably bored the kid to death rabbiting on about global warming and the Great Reset he and his ghastly woke tribe have bought into. (Reset for us, not for them).

          As per usual the events of the past two days have been comprehensively hijacked by an assortment of has been actors, ‘Olympians’, deviants and other attention seekers.

          Neil Oliver hits the right note in his latest broadcast referencing the origin of the word Jubilee and its relevance today. Whilst the rich and famous were cavorting on The Mall, many ordinary folk remain struggling with mountainous debts and problems in affording heating to their homes and putting food on the table.

      2. Your son’s misbehaving is normal – I would be hard put not to laugh at that excuse – but a four year old who puts his hand over his mother’s mouth to shush her in public, and makes a rude gesture that he shouldn’t even know before he goes to school! – is not, in my opinion. The difference is that your son acknowledges that you are the boss, and that’s why he comes up with the excuse! The other child appears to think he is the boss and doing as adults say is optional.
        Not my family, so none of my business anyway. Perhaps it will be a wake-up call to his parents. If not, then the Margaret – Andrew – Harry sequence looks like continuing.

      3. Your mentioning the rolling pin reminds me of my Father and his belt. My Mother also was quick to violence and would lash out with a hard slap.
        In public we seemed a happy family but on occasion the cracks shone through.
        I split my sides laughing when my Father crashed into my Mother when roller skating one Summer in Southsea. She ended up with a broken wrist that needed to be strapped.

        Not long after when i had displeased her she abused me yet again and cried out in pain.

        I am not sorry they are gone.

        1. A sad story, Phizzee. Reminds me of some childhood unhappiness I too suffered.

    3. Yes, that was brattish behaviour. He was probably bored, but that was more than fidgeting.

    4. That little boy is only just 4 years old, he is under the spotlight whenever and wherever he is.
      He will be being ” instructed” 60/60 24/7 365.
      Considering his circumstances, I actually think he’s extraordinarily normal. Why won’t people give him a break?

      1. My son was about 3 when he was a page at my brother’s wedding. He was sitting on a little stool near the pew I and his father were in when the vicar cracked a joke. The congregation laughed. In a carrying voice my small son said, ” Funny man Mum!” Another chuckle from the congregation.

          1. He was later apprehended attempting a raid on the horses doovers trolley. Little sod.

    5. The extended finger salute from the, nose was known as ‘Long Bacon’ in my day. If done with just one hand it was, of course ‘Short Bacon’.

      Why? I have no idea.

      There’s education for you, Richard.

  26. Remember that today’s shite weather would have been regarded as wonderful 78 years ago…..

    1. Yes Bill , and the British do need reminding . D-Day tomorrow .. than goodness it was delayed for one day, and the couldn’t delay for a second day because troops would have become very seasick .

      I first met my Moh at a party at HMS Dryad, the school of Navigation (Southwick House)

      1943, with the planning for D-Day already underway, the house was chosen to be the location of the advance or forward command post (Sharpener Camp) of the Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary Force. Because of this, HMS Dryad was moved out of the house onto further land requisitioned from the estate.[2]

      In 1944, in the months leading up to D-Day, the house became the headquarters of the main allied commanders, including Allied Supreme Commander General Eisenhower, Naval Commander-in-Chief Admiral Ramsay and Army Commander-in-Chief General Montgomery.

      The large wall maps that were used on D-Day are still in place in the house in the main map room.

      I was thrilled to bits to be shown around the map room by Moh and a few other Naval officers in 1968

      Simply amazing .. I can’t find the right words .

      This part of Dorset was full of military activity .. and our little villages billeted American troops as well, and the beaches around here were noisy and busy .

      Our old pal Ray now 87 years old, witnessed the build up to D Day when he was a lad .

      1. The world’s greatest ever seaborne invasion.
        Imagine being a private in a landing-craft, seasick, ramp drops and you have to run out into the water, and the German defensive fire.
        So many lads died.
        Respect.

        1. One of my (now late) neighbours was there and he told me that the lad in front of him when the ramp went down said, “I shouldn’t be here” just before a bullet in his forehead killed him. My old neighbour was wounded (although later, rather than on D Day itself, I think) and had a deep bullet wound scar on one of his hands.

        1. OLT

          So cheeky aren’t you , I should have stayed back in the nurses quarters , drinking hot chocolate and studying for my exams!

      2. We were at Slapton Sands earlier today and that has some devastating pre D Day history. Over 900 US soldiers lost their lives in pre invasion rehearsals.

          1. He’s had quite a few over the last couple of days because I’ve had to leave him a lot to attend various events. He has been very good. When I come back, he’s fast asleep and when he wakes up he comes to greet me. This evening he came to me wagging his tail – and there wasn’t a biscuit in sight! Normally the only thing that causes a tail wag is food.

    2. Yes Bill , and the British do need reminding . D-Day tomorrow .. than goodness it was delayed for one day, and the couldn’t delay for a second day because troops would have become very seasick .

      I first met my Moh at a party at HMS Dryad, the school of Navigation (Southwick House)

      1943, with the planning for D-Day already underway, the house was chosen to be the location of the advance or forward command post (Sharpener Camp) of the Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary Force. Because of this, HMS Dryad was moved out of the house onto further land requisitioned from the estate.[2]

      In 1944, in the months leading up to D-Day, the house became the headquarters of the main allied commanders, including Allied Supreme Commander General Eisenhower, Naval Commander-in-Chief Admiral Ramsay and Army Commander-in-Chief General Montgomery.

      The large wall maps that were used on D-Day are still in place in the house in the main map room.

      I was thrilled to bits to be shown around the map room by Moh and a few other Naval officers in 1968

      Simply amazing .. I can’t find the right words .

      This part of Dorset was full of military activity .. and our little villages billeted American troops as well, and the beaches around here were noisy and busy .

      Our old pal Ray now 87 years old, witnessed the build up to D Day when he was a lad .

  27. Just come back from another Jubilee celebration in Cirencester, where the whole street was closed off for the party. We had a captive audience for a short walk round looking at roofs where swifts are known to be nesting, and then a short talk, by invitation from a swift enthusiast who lives there. Weather not too conducive, but we did see one in flight, and a group of house martins (which some people thought were swifts) which were then scattered by a red kite.
    Drizzle more or less held off but it was quite chilly. Came home with a piece of strawberry cake – going down quite well with a cup of tea.

  28. A memorable thing from our little celebration on Friday afternoon was the fly – past from the Lancaster bomber and Spitfire – just for us! One of the chaps managed to get a photo but I was too cack-handed and slow.

  29. That’s me for today. A horrid, cold, wet unfriendly day. Cats livid. Thank goodness for the stove.

    I assume tomorrow is Monday….I was thrown with the Trooping on Thursday and have been even more discombobulated in the following days.

    Have a jolly evening being glad you don’t have the youngest Cambridge child anywhere near you.

    A demain.

    1. Second day of high summer in Argyll and Bute: bright, dry and warm – 19C …

      I’m sorry to hear that you fell of yer horse in Horse Guards Parade …

      1. 21C here, and sunny.
        Have some sunburn, due to working outside for a while and having pathetic white skin that hasn’t seen sun in yonks.

      2. Musselburgh and Perth looked to have glorious sunshine this afternoon. Been truly wet, miserable and cold here 🙁

  30. I think it worth posting this piece from Paul Craig Roberts. Not cheerful, but I think essential to consider.

    The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe published on April 15, 2016, more than six years ago, a report on the torture of Donbass
    Russians by the Ukrainian military and police forces. The report documents horrendous torture and it was done out of racial hatred of
    Russians. You can read the report here: https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/e/7/233896.pdf

    Few Westerners, being so poorly educated, are aware that Western Ukraine fought for Nazi Germany during World War II. When Washington
    overthrew the Ukrainian government in 2014, Washington installed a Nazi government. The Nazi government in Ukraine shelled the Russian residents
    of the two break-away Donbass republics for 8 years while Washington and NATO trained and equipped a Ukrainian army to retake the breakaway
    republics.

    The Donbass region, always a part of Russia, was put into the Ukrainian province of the Soviet Union by the Soviet government for administrative or other reasons, as was Crimea by Khrushchev in the 1950s. When the US overthrew the Ukrainian government and installed an
    anti-Russian government, the residents of Crimea and Donbass, being Russians, broke away and voted overwhelmingly to be reunited with Russia. The Kremlin accepted Crimea but made the strategic blunder of rejecting Donbass, thus resulting in the extreme murder and torture of Donbass Russians for 8 years before the Kremlin was forced to intervene by Russian public opinion and by the appearance of a 150,000 American-trained Ukrainian army and Nazi militias on the Donbass border. It is this army and Nazi militias that the Russian army has been exterminating in Donbass during the last several months. The Western media reports of Ukrainian victories show the total absence of integrity and respect for truth that damns Western journalism.

    The extreme torture of the Russian residents of Donbass has been supported by three US presidents, all European states, and the entirety of the whore Western media, a collection of despicable scum.

    Instead of reporting the truth, the scum Western media reported fake news of rapes and looting by Russian soldiers, the most disciplined army
    in the world. The Ukrainians, or perhaps the CIA, have been exposed filming fake battle scenes in which allegedly Russian troops are shown
    fleeing from combat. The filming is so sloppy that the director’s instructions for the staged act are included and the film crew is itself filmed, indicating that it is a film production and that there is no danger in the situation.

    As horrendous as it is that the “free West” underwrites and diplomatically supports torture of Russians by Ukrainians while the despicable Western media covers it up, this horror pales in significance compared to the extraordinary decision of the White House Idiot to place in Ukraine’s hands missiles capable of hitting targets in Crimea, the traditional home of Russia’s Black Sea naval base.

    Washington has said that Washington won’t be operating the missiles and is relying on Ukraine’s assurance that they won’t be used to attack
    Russian territory. But Ukraine doesn’t regard Crimea as Russian territory. Neither does Washington’s “world community.” The “world
    community” doesn’t acknowledge the Crimean vote for reunification with Russia. Officially for the West, Crimea is part of Ukraine. So Ukraine
    can use Biden’s missiles to attack the Russian naval base in Crimea.

    As Eric Zuesse, an unusual leftwinger who generally respects the truth as far as he can see it, something the left seldom does, notes, the
    Biden Idiot and his neoconservative controllers have turned over to Zelensky, a Jew allied with Nazis, the decision whether there will be
    Armageddon.

    Here is Zuesse, speaking for himself:

    Ukraine Says It Might Use U.S. Weapons to Invade Russia
    Eric Zuesse

    In order to understand this matter, some fundamental background must first be briefly presented; and it is this (the remainder of this
    paragraph): Ukraine’s Government has consistently promised that it will retake Crimea, which had been part of Russia during 1783-1954 when the
    Soviet leader Khrushchev then transferred it to Ukraine, and which subsequently broke away from Ukraine in 2014 to rejoin Russia. Russia
    has re-established its sovereignty there, after a 2014 referendum in Crimea showed over 90% support by voters for Russia to do so. That’s the
    background.

    On June 1st, when the White House announced that it would be sending to Ukraine weapons that might be used for invading Russia, Jonathan
    Finer, deputy White House national security adviser, said Washington had asked Ukraine for assurances the missiles would not strike inside
    Russia. On June 3rd, Ukraine’s Government rejected that request.

    At the time when Biden made that announcement on June 1st, Reuters noted that, “Biden announced the plan to give Ukraine precision HIMARS rocket systems after receiving assurances from Kyiv that it would not use them to hit targets inside Russian territory.”

    Either the U.S. Government is lying, or else the Ukrainian Government is lying, about this matter. If Ukraine did give Biden “assurances”
    that those weapons will not be used so as to invade Russia, then Ukraine’s announcement on June 3rd proves that Ukraine was lying when it
    provided those “assurances.”

    If Ukraine did not give give Biden such “assurances,” then Biden was lying.

    If Ukraine was lying on June 3rd to say that it won’t comply with Biden’s request, then that was a lie from Ukraine.

    Here is the way Russia’s RT News reported, on June 3rd, Ukraine’s rejection of Biden’s request (assuming that Biden did make such a request; wasn’t lying about that):

    “Ukraine dismisses its promise to US”

    Kiev may strike Crimea, a Ukrainian presidential aide says, despite assurances US weapons won’t be used to hit Russian territory.

    Ukraine will use US-supplied rocket systems to strike into Russian territory should it deem such attacks necessary, Ukrainian Presidential
    Adviser Alexey Arestovich said on Thursday. …

    “Crimea is ours. It belongs to Ukraine. And they [Russia] know it.” …

    Arestovich’s comment comes despite US Secretary of State Antony Blinken saying on Wednesday that Kiev has given Washington “assurances”
    that it won’t use American rockets to attack targets in Russia. …

    Arestovich’s statement echoes the claim made by another Ukrainian politician. Egor Chernev, a Ukrainian MP, said on Wednesday that Russian
    aircraft and military stationed on Russia’s territory are “legitimate targets.”

    If Ukraine uses U.S. weapons to invade Russia, then under existing international law, the U.S. will be a participant in that invasion.
    Russia would have a good case that (given the facts which have just been documented here), that participation would be either intentional, or
    else negligent. It would not have been unintentional on America’s part. Russia would, at the very least, then ask America whether that
    participation was intentional, or instead negligent. If America says “negligent,” then Russia would ask what America will do to rectify that
    matter. If America instead says “intentional,” then there will exist, from that moment on, a hot war between Russia and America. The loser in
    any hot war between Russia and America will escalate the conflict to a nuclear war in order to avoid becoming conquered by the other side. That
    would be not only WW III but a nuclear WW III, and would destroy all of the allies of each side, and would severely contaminate even neutral
    countries, and end globally in a nuclear winter, which would possibly end all life as it has existed on this planet.

    PCR’s comment:

    I have said from the beginning that the Kremlin is reactive, not proactive, and only slowly reactive. The consequence is that the Kremlin’s red lines mean nothing to the West. Even when under extreme duress, the Kremlin only allowed itself a limited military intervention in eastern Ukraine where residents are ethnic Russian. To the neoconservatives controlling Western foreign policy, this appears asirresolution, so the West presses on. Red line after Red line is
    crossed, and the Kremlin does nothing. It took EIGHT YEARS for the Kremlin to react to the slaughter of Donbass Russians, and only did so after the West laughed at the Kremlin’s security concerns and dismissed them out of hand. Russia’s conduct of its foreign policy shows irresolution, and this invites more provocations. The Kremlin shows inability to comprehend the dilemma it creates for itself.

    Do we assume that years of Kremlin subservience to the West under Yeltsin and years of Kremlin hesitation under Putin have convinced the
    West that there is no strength in Russia and that Washington can presson with the Wolfowitz Doctrine of Washington’s hegemony? Perhaps this
    is a safe assumption. After all Washington had three decades of Kremlin toleration of Washington-financed NGOs, media and subversive
    organizations operating inside Russia corrupting the youth and the disaffected. Elements of this ilk are even present in the Russian government.

    In the West the Russian military is a laughing stock. The media reports that Russian forces are about to be rolled up by democratic Ukrainians using American weapons. The unreality of this fantasy means more red lines will be crossed.

    Are the Atlanticist Integrationists going to depose Putin? Is Russia going to have a new leader installed who will apologize to Ukraine and pay reparations?

    If not, what’s going to happen when those US missiles given to Ukraine hit targets in Crimea?

    Putin’s humanity, his toleration of provocations, his reluctance touse force has encouraged the West to press harder. Sooner or later a red line is going to be crossed from which there is no recovery.

    1. On June 29, 1941, the Germans, having already launched their invasion of Soviet territory, invade and occupy Lvov, in eastern Galicia, in Ukraine, slaughtering thousands.

      After the end of World War II, Soviet NKVD units fought against the UPA. The UPA remained active and fought against the People’s Republic of Poland until 1947, and against the Soviet Union until 1949. It was particularly strong in the Carpathian Mountains, the entirety of Galicia and in Volhynia—in modern Western Ukraine. By the late 1940s, the mortality rate for Soviet troops fighting Ukrainian insurgents in Western Ukraine was higher than the mortality rate for Soviet troops during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan.[19][20] Between February 1943 and May 1945, unlike most resistance movements, it had no significant foreign support.[21] Its growth and strength were a reflection of the popularity it enjoyed among the people of Western Ukraine.[22] Outside of western Ukraine, support was not significant, and the majority of the Soviet eastern Ukrainian population considered, and at times still viewed, the OUN/UPA to have been primarily collaborators with the Germans.[23]: 180

      Having said that the Ukrainians were the worst of the lot .. Western Ukraine sided with Nazi Germany , and did really horrible wicked things .. so I dunno,

      I think they are all as bad as each other .. blinking ruthless cruel and manipulative.

      They won’t get an pennies out of me .

    2. Not wishing to quibble. Although the report is on the OSCE.org website it was produced by another organisation. It seems to me that barbarism is endemic in that region of the World.

    3. There is far too much to digest here.

      To challenge the NATO/ EU/ and MSM versions of history since 2014 needs some step-wise introduction.

      The Western world has been conned by NATO/ EU/ propaganda and MS lies.

      President Vladimir Putin is not necessarily the ultimate enemy of the West,
      NATO/ EU/ propaganda and MSL untruths would have us believe.

      ‘President Vladimir Zelenskyy’ (born 25 January 1978), a Ukrainian politician, former comedian, and actor has served as the 6th and current president of Ukraine since 2019.

      I do not believe that he is the War Hero on the side of Right …

    1. All down to the cost of grain (and really, fertilizer). Chickens eat grain, thus more expensive grain means more expensive chicken.

      1. Wibbling, it’s more than that. In the US, they have started a “bird flu” scare. Guess how they diagnose “bird flu”? With the good old PCR test!

        Masses of birds have been slaughtered, and there are bans on selling chicks in some states. The egg and chicken industry is severely impacted, as is the possibility to keep chickens at home in some places.

        Then add in the nineteen fires this year in the US that have destroyed food factories or production plants – the latest one, and several others, I think, were at chicken farms.

        Indonesia halted the export of chicken recently, the reason given was to ensure domestic supplies. But they are a big exporter normally, so that would imply that they are scaling down production.

        These four factors are why there’s now a shortage of chicken. They told us that meat would be an occasional treat in that infamous presentation; now they’re making it happen.

  31. 352964+ up ticks,

    Afternoon Each,

    I have a feeling this could see the ending of street party’e of the celebratory type, these will be replaced by party’s of a more combative nature.

    Street by street, hamlet, village, town, city’s,
    ALL to be reclaimed via the peoples reset,
    the current lab/lib/con supporters / voters
    have set the peoples resetters one hell of a task but sanity,common sense, political integrity MUST be reinstated.

    Over 10,000 Illegal Boat Migrants Land in Britain This Year, Nearly as Much as 2019 and 2020 Combined

    1. Only 10,000? What about last years? Where have they gone?

      There is no integrity in politicians. The only way to stop them is to prevent them from creating fake money. To quite literally take away the printing press. If banks and government could no longer create non-existent money, all sorts of problems go away.

  32. Here’s one for you:
    Blokes like boobs. A lot. And that’s no exaggeration.
    Some ladies are fat, and have “back-boobs”.
    Even better than thin birds – twice as many boobs as before!
    What’s not to like?

        1. I am in no mood to piss about right now. I have a horrible feeling that this week is going to be a tough one re hospital calls for MH and me. Sod these bloody holier than thou types….take a long running jump off a very short pier.

          1. I have my fingers crossed for you- let me know, and I can do rage that means the end of civilisations as well.
            Bastards,
            Remember, NTTL is on your side, Ann.

          2. I do know that and I have tried to reduce the whinging here as people don’t want to listen to me moan all the time- I do enough of it;-)
            Just want it all over and the pain gone.

          3. We cannot help with scalpers and such but we are good at drinking with you in mind!

            Never mind the constraint, just let rip if it helps you.

          4. Good news is that we sold our house today, it only went up for sale on Thursday!
            Bad news is that I missed this afternoons golf game because we had to sign many, many documents.

            Hopefully moving September 1st so although I have over two more months oc grass cutting, there will be no more snow clearing.

          5. YAAY!
            Hope it’s catching… Mother’s house goes “live” next week…

          6. It gets better. The agent was just about to send the OK on the first offer when a second offer arrived, just 45K more than the last one.

          7. Don’t hold back, Ann. We can take it. One point of NTTL is that you can say/write what you mean, and what you feel.
            Of course we don’t want to (listen) to you moan because that means one of our friends is having a miserable time (and who would wish that?) , but as friends, we see that we need to listen, hopefuly help you with your pain, and help you to feel happier…

          8. I continue to remember you in my prayers, for what it’s worth. I bent His ear on your behalf again this morning 🙂

          9. Thank you again Conners! I do appreciate it so much. I try and respond by sending hugs to Oscar.

          10. He’s flat out in his basket at the moment so best not disturbed (as I value my fingers!). Will give him a hug from you later.

          11. I have my fingers crossed for you- let me know, and I can do rage that means the end of civilisations as well.
            Bastards,
            Remember, NTTL is on your side, Ann.

  33. Laugh?
    World cup qualification.

    A metaphor for what is happening to their country:
    Ukraine lost to Wales by scoring an own goal, just like they are at home, shooting themselves in the foot and balls.

    1. Laugh 2.

      Canada was supposed to play Iran in a world cup warm up game but they seem to have overlooked the minor diplomatic squabbles after Iranians shot down a Ukranian plane that just so happened to be full of Canadians.

    1. I was at St Christopher’s in Bath between 1954 and 1960 – between the ages of 8 and 13 – in spite of having fair hair and blue eyes the masters were not remotely interested in me.

        1. Rastus was so unassuming the Masters didn’t even know he was there………..

      1. I was surprised, to say the least… I knew these teachers ( Clements was creepy), but strewth… Place is owned by Carphone Warehose now,

    2. Horrible monsters

      I used to worry when son no 1 was at prep school … and then I tore myself apart later in life when son no 2 was brave enough to tell us he had a different life style when he was 28 years old . He will be 49 soon , and apart from being a gentle soul, one would never guess.

      His life , but I often wonder whether he was groomed when at school / college/ etc etc.

      1. I wondered about my two lads, then came to the conclusion that they live their own lives, and who an I to judge? SO, relax, Belle, it will be as it will be.
        😉

        1. Thanks OB

          I feel ashamed for divulging family stuff, but you are right , it is what it is and what will be will be .

          We accept now .. feels as if we have 3 sons 🙂😉

          1. No shame, Belle.
            Happy and fulfilled children is the most important thing. No matter how old they might be.

          2. Mine are both single at 51 & 48, but they have both had girlfriends. Just not the right ones.

          3. Belle, I have dropped the “step” before my husband’s son, wife etc. They are now my son and daughter in law and the grand monsters are my grandchildren also.
            Family is family and it can and does take many forms. Love is all that matters.

        2. BTW, as far as I know, they both like girls… proper girls, ones that menstruate and have (på Norsk) “Innetiss”.
          And back boobs (see below).
          A woman is a wonderful creation… 😉

    3. Horrendous. Those poor little boys. They weren’t queers…they were sadists.

  34. Musk et Fire?

    “On Saturday, the Tesla CEO brought up the Jeffrey Epstein scandal – tweeting of the “Epstein/Maxwell client list” that “Only thing more remarkable than DOJ not leaking the list is that no one in the media cares,” before adding “Sometimes I think my list of enemies is too short, so …”

    1. Firstborn had a chat with his mate this afternoon. AS they were talking, Golden Eagles circled overhead, one huge one and three smaller. How fantastic would that be? Firstborn saw one in the road 2-3 years ago, when he was motorbiking on the way home. He said that the bird started to take off, and it’s winsg almost touched the hedges each side of the road! Whoosh!!

      1. One doesn’t get a real appreciation of how big they actually are until up close and personal.
        I enjoyed a day flying eagles and it was unforgettable.

        1. When they look huge and are on the horizon, and just get bigger as they get closer… :-O)

      2. When we stayed on the Isle of Mull more than 10 years ago now, we saw Golden Eagles very close and also the White Tailed ones on their nest. As we climbed up the hillside from our cottage, the golden eagle swooped down below us to the valley, so we saw it from above.

    2. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/53999ab69bf0f787f286af7199e010e23c465db23fbc134e4f7377fd9d8d00ce.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/88e8e1702afde8ea20cd2cea5674ffe5bd18e0c5fd764ea19ed6ebfc518c30b9.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a349cd8185e5f0a267a91714ac9056d32d9d51173fab49c87889c29685e47c42.jpg I snapped this bird in the large hawthorn tree today. I’ve heard plenty (I do so annually) but it’s the first time I’ve clapped eyes on the elusive little so-and-so for three decades!
      Anyone else know the species?

        1. It’s a Garden Warbler Sylvia borin. Often heard (a similar beautiful song to the closely-related Blackcap S. atricapilla) but very skulking by nature and seldom seen.

      1. The plain, indeed nondescript, garden warbler that isn’t really a garden bird.

        1. It’s odd how the word ‘nondescript’ has changed over time. Formerly a nondescript bird or animal would be a new addition to natural history, in that it was previously ‘undescribed’, an unknown species.

    3. Wonderful news Belle! Both the Scottish nests I’m watching now have 3 hatched osplets/bobs each! Hope they all survive.

    1. And one huge advantage of being blocked is that one doesn’t see the ” contributions” of the blocker.
      A win win as they say.

      1. I occasionally use my 2nd account to see what some of the more vociferous people who block me are wetting their panties over and will often comment to those responding to them.

  35. Evening, all. Had a break yesterday because I had such a busy day with lots of events locally and the Derby to watch, meaning I didn’t get here until everyone had gone to bed! I haven’t been watching the beeb coverage, but I wouldn’t mind betting that, despite their best efforts to show otherwise, the vast majority of those celebrating the Jubilee weren’t tinted. Certainly that was true here; we were all hideously white.

    1. Here as well – in Cirencester this afternoon, and our little hillside gathering on Friday.

    2. Well Conners put it like this, If you’d bet your boots on our TV media especially the bbc not trying to grossly over emphasis at every given and invented opportunity, alternative ‘Bame’ (not my word) and of course different regions also not associated with this British royal occasion. You’d be walking around bare foot.
      Talk about completely going over the top and scraping every barrel.

      1. To be fair, it isn’t just the beeb. ITV is as bad. If there is just one tinted face in a crowd of 10,000 that person will be singled out!

        1. I know, I did say our TV media.
          We might expect a few complaints regarding slavery as so many of them are being lined up in desperation.

    1. The Pope is pure evil.

      Put there by the same people who run the banks and possess the major corporations. Much the same as in England with Welby ensconced as Archbishop of Canterbury, a ruddy heathen corporatist.

  36. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/224b57ada3180354830fa67a1f780f2912fad88bf528d580ab4c1727e8b3cf1b.jpg

    A speech…

    Though I do not think that the life of a busy man there could be placed into his hands a more difficult toast than this, yet the first thought that comes into my mind as a public man is a feeling of satisfaction and profound thankfulness that I may use the word ‘England’ without some fellow at the back of the room shouting out ‘Britain’. I have often thought how many of the most beautiful passages in the English language would be ruined by that substitution which is so popular to-day. I read in your Dinner-book, ‘When God wants a hard thing done, He tells it’, not to His not to his Britons, but to His Englishman;. And in the same way, to come to a very modern piece of poetry, how different it would be with the altered ending, ‘For in spite of all his temptations to belong to other nations, he remains a Briton.’ We have to-night to celebrate our country and our Patron Saint. It always seems to me no mere chance that besides being the Patron Saint of England, St George was the Patron Saint of those gallant sailors around the shores of the Adriatic, and that in his honour there exists one of the shores of the most beautiful chapels in Venice to-day. The Patron Saint for men of the English stock; and I think to-night amongst ourselves we might for a minute or two look at those characteristics, contradictory often, peculiar as we believe, in the great stock of which we are all members

    The Englishman is all right as long as he is content to be what God made him, an Englishman, but gets into trouble when he tries to be something else. There are chroniclers, or were chronicles, who said it was the aping of the French manners by our English ancestors that made us the prey William the Norman, and led to our defeat at Hastings. Let that be a warning to us not to ape any foreign country. Let us be content to trust and be ourselves.

    Now, I always think that one of the most curious contradictions about the English stock is this: that while the criticism that is often made of us is not without an element of truth, and that is that as a nation we are less open to the intellectual sense than the Latin races, yet though that may be a fact, there is no nation on earth that has had the same knack of producing geniuses, and in a nation which many people might think restrained, unable to express itself, in this same nation you have a literature second to none that has ever existed in the world, and certainly in poetry supreme.

    Then, for a more personal characteristic, we grumble, and we have always grumbled, but we never worry. Now, there is a very great truth in that, because there are foreign nations who worry but do not grumble. Grumbling is more superficial, leaves less of a mark on the character, and just as the English schoolboy, for his eternal salvation, is impervious to the receipt of learning, and by that means preserves his metal faculties into middle age and old age than he otherwise would (and I may add that I attribute the possession of such facilities as I have to that fact that I did not overstrain them in youth), just as the Englishman has a mental reserve owing to that gift given to him at his birth by St. George, so, by the absence of worry he keeps his nervous system sound and sane, with the result that in times of emergency the nervous system stands when the nervous system of other peoples breaks.

    The Englishman is made for a time of crisis, and for a time of emergency. He is serene in difficulties, but may seem to be indifferent when times are easy. He may not look ahead, he may not heed warnings, he may not prepare, but when he once starts he is persistent to the death, and he is ruthless in action. It is these gifts that have made the Englishman what he is, and that have enabled the Englishman to make England and Empire what it is.

    It is in staying power that he is supreme, and fortunately, being, as I said, to some extent impervious to intellectual impressions as a nation, he is usually impervious to criticism – a most useful thing for an English statesman sometimes. This may be the reason why English statesmen sometimes last longer than those who are not English. I admit that in past generations we carried that virtue to an excess, and by a rebound the sins of the fathers are being visited on the children. For instance, there was a time when this particular epithet was more in vogue in political society, and the Englishman invariably spoke of the ‘damned’ foreigner. Those days are gone, but the legacy has come to us in this, that by the swing of the pendulum we have in this country what does not exist in any other, a certain section of our people who regard every country as being in the right except their own. It largely arises, I think, among a certain section of the population who hold beliefs which they cannot persuade their fellow-countrymen to adopt.

    There is yet one other point. I think the English people are at heart and in practice the kindest people in the world. With some faults on which I have touched, there is in England a profound sympathy for the under-dog. There is a brotherly and a neighbourly feeling which we see to a remarkable extent through all classes. There is a way of facing misfortunes with a cheerful face. It was shown to a marvellous degree in the war, and in spite of all he said in criticism of his own people, Ruskin said one thing of immoral truth. He said: “The English laugh is the purest and truest in the metal that can be minted. And indeed only Heaven can know what the country owes to it.” There is a profound truth in that. As long as a people can laugh, they are preserved from the grosser vices of life, political and moral. And as long as they can laugh, they can face all the ills that fortune may bring upon them.

    Then, in no nation more than the English is there a diversified individuality. We are a people of individuals, and a people of character. You may take the writings of one of the most English of writers, Charles Dickens, and you will find that practically all his characters are English. They are all different, and each of us that has gone through this world with his eyes open and his heart open, has met every one of Dicken’s characters in some position or another in life. Let us see to it that we never allow our individuality as Englishmen to be steam-rollered. The preservation of the individuality of the Englishman is essential to the preservation of the type of the race, and if our differences are smoothed out and we lose that great gift, we shall lose at the same time our power. Uniformity of type is a bad thing. I regret very much myself the uniformity of speech. Time was, two centuries ago, when you could have told by his speech from what part of England every member of Parliament came. He spoke the speech of his fathers, and I regret that the dialects have gone, and I regret that by a process which for a want of a better name we have agreed among ourselves to call education, we are drifting away from the language of the people and losing some of the best English words and phrases which have lasted in the country through centuries, to make us all talk one uniform and inexpressive language.

    Now, I have very little more that I want to say to you to-night, but on an occasion like this I suppose there is no one who does not ask himself in his heart and is a little shy of expressing it, what is it that England stands for to him, and to her. And there comes into my mind a wonder as to what England may stand for in the minds of generations to come if our country goes on during the next generation as she has done in the last two, in seeing her fields converted into towns. To me, England is the country, and the country is England. And when I ask myself what I mean by England, when I think of England when I am abroad, England comes to me through my various senses – through the ear, through the eye, and through certain imperishable scents. I will tell you what they are, and there may be those among you who feel as I do.

    The sounds of England, the tinkle of hammer on anvil in the country smithy, the corncrake on a dewy morning, the sound of the scythe against the whetstone, and the sight of a plough team coming over the brow of a hill, the sight that has been in England since England was a land, and may be seen in England long after the Empire has perished and every works in England has ceased to function, for centuries the one eternal sight of England. The wild anenomies in the woods of April, the last load at night of hay being drawn down a lane as the twilight comes on, when you can scarcely distinguish the figures on the horses as they take it home to the farm, and above all, most subtle, most penetrating and most moving, the smell of wood smoke coming in an autumn evening, or the smell of the scutch fires: that wood smoke that our ancestors, tens of thousands of years ago, must have caught on the air when they were still nomads, and when they were still roaming the forests and the plains of the continent of Europe. These things strike down into the very depths of our nature, and touch chords that go back to the beginning of time and the human race, but they are chords that with every year of our life sound a deeper note in our innermost being.

    These are things that make England, and I grieve for it that they are not the childish inheritance of the majority of people to-day in our country. They ought to be the inheritance of every child born into this country, but nothing can be more touching than to see how the working man and woman after generations in the towns will have their tiny bit of garden if they can, will go to gardens if they can, to look at something they they have never seen as children, but which their ancestors knew and loved. The love of these things is innate and inherent in our people. It makes for that love of home, one of the strongest features of our race, and it that that makes our race seek its home in the Dominions overseas, where they have room to see things like this that they can no more see at home. It is that power of making homes, almost peculiar to our people, and it is one of the sources of their greatness. They go overseas, and they take with them what they learned at home: love of justice, love of truth, and the broad humanity that are so characteristic of English people. It may well be that these traits on which we pride ourselves, which we hope to show and try to show in our lives, may survive – survive among our people so long as they are a people – and I hope and believe this, that just as to-day more than fifteen centuries since the last of those great Roman legionaries left England, we still speak of the Roman character, so perhaps in the ten thousandth century, long after the Empires of this world as we know them have fallen and others have risen and fallen again, the men who are then on this earth may yet speak of those characteristics which we prize as the characteristics of the English, and that long after, maybe, the name of the country has passed away, wherever mean are honourable and upright and perservering, lovers of home, of their bretheren, of justice and of humanity, the men in the world of that day may say, ‘We still have among us the gifts of that great English race.’

    Stanley Baldwin, Prime Minister, to the Royal Society of St George, 6th May, 1924

    The crisis is here – and Baldwin had already seen what Orwell would refer to in 1941 in ‘England, Your England’.

    1. I can imagine how that speech might have been presented, the pauses, the emphases, the reactions from the listeners and the changes in intonation as he reacted to the listeners. It must have been a splendid occasion!

    2. …some fellow at the back of the room shouting out ‘Britain’.” exposing his ignorance of Britain being a geographic concept, encompassing all the Islands around the mainland, including the island of Ireland.

      1. In all my years, in the RN, NONE of us on a ship spoke about going home to England: it was “to UK”

        1. Even in the sixties, OLT, we travelled from Germany ‘back to Blighty’.

    3. I found that really moving and quite thrilling. It grieves me that there are Scottish, Welsh and Irish traditions celebrated but English? They seem to me to be slowly but surely being obliterated and we English made to feel ashamed to be English.

    1. Son works in construction , and several of his co workers are Asian … and he says they smell of curry , and not good really as he says often or not he is working in confined spaces .

      He doesn’t want to smother himself with deodorant to offset their odour , because he isn’t like that … so what does one do?

      1. I was at junior school with a lad whose parents ran a fish and chip shop in Morland Road in Bath. Fair put me off fish and chips for years he did.

          1. Some friends of mine at my club knew i had a catering background. They asked me to run their burger wagon for two weeks in the High St while they jetted off to somewhere sunny. The only burger i can eat now is a Big Mac….bleurgh.

          2. Many years ago I worked on several accommodation and recreational buildings at Queen’s College Taunton.

            There in the kitchens I witnessed the largest can of baked beans I had ever seen. It was labelled as baked beans but was the size of an oil drum.

            Those poor boys (and girls as they had only then admitted them) must have suffered greatly. (1976).

      2. People are malodorous. Especially construction workers ! I would suggest to your boy that he eats more curry !

  37. Oh dear – after 2½ years – another very personal comment.

    I am old; I am frail; and not in the best of health. I can’t be doing with it.

    So, dear NoTTLers – I am off. I may be back in July – or not – depending on how I am then.

    Meanwhile, enjoy yourselves. And be KIND to each other.

    A bientôt (or not)

    1. Surely that should be: ‘A bientôt (or nottl)’ ?
      And there was I thinking you were completely hooked on all the fish puns.
      Sincerely hope your health improves. S

    2. You will be much missed, Bill. Do take care and hope your health improves so you can come back and join us.
      Love to you, the MR and the glorious Gus and Pickles.

    3. Sorry to hear of your travails, BT. Take care of yourself, you’ll be missed.

      1. I heartily second Korky’s post, Bill. Please don’t desert us for too long.

    4. Bill,

      You WILL be missed , hugely and terrificly because you are regarded so with great affection .

      Please take great care , and if you are travelling somewhere nice , enjoy yourself/selves.

      Post a pic when ever you can .

      Goodnight for now x

        1. I do not know what the problem is either, but it seems serious

          A little inapt, maybe

    5. I’m not sure that you have been given permission to approach the bench.
      I’ll think we’ll adjourn for now.
      All Rise!

    6. Bill you are a gem of wit and wisdom amongst us NoTTLers.
      I have no idea what brought this on but if you do decide to go please don’t stay away too long.
      I used to, as a young salesman, tune into the JY prog to listen to you.
      Look after yourself and realise there are more on this blog who like and respect you than don’t. Don’t let them win.

      1. I was living in Birmingham at the time. Always listened to the Jimmy Young show. I got a great deal of pleasure in later years when i realised the Legal Beagle was a contributor on this site. I even bought some of his books. Cheaper when signed !

      1. I have just read the thread. There has clearly been a misunderstanding. Herts would never be cruel and i am sure she would be devastated that her post was taken in that context.

        1. I’ve just read it now. I remember that dormouse- it was years ago and it drove us all mad one Christmas. I certainly didn’t think it was Hertslass. I don’t know why she’s accused Bill of not apologising for whatever he might have thought.

          1. Who knows? It’s been a good weekend on the whole – not good weather but lots of socialising.

    7. Dear Bill, I am so sad to read this. Please re-consider and ignore whoever it is who has upset you. Sincere best wishes to you and yours.

    8. Oh Bill, please re-consider – take a break, a rest from it all and come back to us. It has been a difficult two years for everyone, we react in different ways but we all need each other. This site is a window to a world-that-once-was, it keeps me sane and I am sure has done that for you and others. Refresh the page, re-boot, power cycle or whatever they call it (switching off and then back on!) and then….. return.

    9. Chin up, Billy boy and sod the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune. For all of us – and ultimately you – just KBO.

    1. Haven’t bothered watching but if anyone doesn’t like what they see here they are free to fuck off somewhere more to their liking.

    2. I know nothing about this woman nor want , however a few years ago, I was on one of (not as now the only one) warships, which docked in
      Kingston, Jamaica
      A few of us walked from the Dockyard and past a Fish Market: a Black man, with a large machette was slicing a Dolphin, asked us to leave
      He said F… O.. Whitey
      If I even thought that about a BAME in UK, I would be in prison

    3. If she thinks Britain is hell, she’s free to leave. She’s no Londoner if she can’t stand the flag of the country where she chooses to live.

  38. Good night all 😴 I have to turn the light off as OH is tutting and wants to go to sleep 😴 I hope Bill will feel better and return.

    1. Good night J

      I expect the huge hedgehog will be in the garden when the dogs go out for their late night time wee.
      I hope Bill returns .

      Sleep well.

  39. Good night all 😴 I have to turn the light off as OH is tutting and wants to go to sleep 😴 I hope Bill will feel better and return.

  40. When Johnson puts out Shapps as his first line of defence you just know he is a gonner. The sooner the better in my view.

    Anyone succeeding Bunter had better watch out otherwise they too will be disposed of in double quick time. The country has their number and will have its revenge.

    1. ‘They’ think we don’t remember. Probably why they are trying to kill us all.

    2. We’re running out of time though.
      The Federal Reserve will start QE again this summer, probably..
      That’ll be like petrol on the fire of inflation.
      There is growing evidence of manipulated food shortages.
      This is likely to cause a “crisis” that will be “solved” by CBDCs, and then we’re slaves, because our every purchase will be known to and permitted/controlled by the government.

      This meme from the USA illustrates another possible route back to commodity-backed currency – this is what we should be aiming for, but TPTB will be trying to impose a CBDC instead.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f4c95d02f904ad8a379b7d0e8ec3c32e5a20f03dc4a1438a68b982c3f4ac46d2.jpg

  41. To Geoff/ I should be grateful if you would kindly post this where it can be seen on Monday, as it is to NoTTLers in general, as well as to BT

    Dear NoTTLers,

    I am writing to make an unreserved apology to you all, and to Bill Thomas in particular, for what I wrote last night. Something (no, not alcohol!) triggered the resurrection of a resentment of something that happened a while ago, let’s call it a misunderstanding, that caused me upset and anger at the time. I thought it was dead and buried. I should have been adult and mature enough to forget the whole thing – but last night showed that I obviously wasn’t. I have deleted (I hope) any related comment by me.

    So all I can do is acknowledge that I shouldn’t have written what I did, and apologise to Bill and to the rest of you. I would never want to cause difficulty on this lovely forum, and very much regret that I might have done so.

    1. An honest and generous apology to us all, and in particular to Bill, Hertslass. It shows that at heart you are a true NoTTLer.

    2. Even in the most long standing and well tempered relationships there will be the odd ill considered remark, i’ve been guilty of this on occasions in the last 49 years (as has SWMBO) , a quick scowl , a period of silence then a hug usually sorts things out

      1. Well said, Datz and Elsie! I’m sending virtual hugs to Hertslass and Bill! The scowls have gone!

  42. Well done Hertslass.

    “Sorry seems to be the hardest word” – as the very wealthy pansy said, but you have managed to do it!

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