Thursday 2 December: The omicron response is based on a flawed understanding of risk

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  1. Two more rounds of boosters to come as Government orders ‘variant-proof’ Covid vaccines. 2 December 2021.

    Britain has bought enough vaccines for two more boosters per person, under a deal to provide 114 million more jabs that can be modified against new variants.
    Ministers said the deal with Moderna and Pfizer, covering two more years, would “futureproof” the country beyond this winter’s rollout.

    Morning everyone. In other words they’ve already bought the boosters for next year after the present ones are administered. Perpetual medication! Good luck with that! I’m not taking any of these; indeed I haven’t taken the original jabs and thank my lucky stars for it! The stories about the side effects, even here on Nottl, make this look more and more like an oncoming catastrophe!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/01/two-rounds-boosters-come-government-orders-variant-proof-covid/

      1. Information indicates that 33% of the population of London has not been jabbed = your guess is as good as mine for numbers.

        Latest national figure is around 47 million double jabbed, add on 12 million children = 59 million. If, and it’s a big if, the total population is 70 million then non-jabbed = 70 – 59 = 11 million. Very close to your figure: are they not expecting the non-jabbed to submit?

        1. According to reports from Peterborough, several districts have similar low uptakes. No prizes for guessing which ‘community’ is dominant in those areas…….Though maybe they will have the last laugh if long-term effects are bad.

    2. £2billion is the cost of the 2 vaccines according to the BBC Radio 4 News this morning. This news was accompanied by the fact that researchers had found a possible cause for the AZ vaccine causing rare blood clots.
      This government is carelessly throwing taxpayer money about on this pandemic.

      1. Morning Scotty. The occasional glimpse I catch of Savid Javiz leaves me with the impression of a man in a suppressed panic! One is reminded of the old saw, “When in a hole stop digging”, they look to me like they are working on their own grave!

        1. I noticed in yet another startled-looking Saj interview yesterday that he is just one of several wearers of the little red ribbon. What is this for? They can’t all have been promoted to milk monitors??

          5. 1st December is International Aids Day – it’s made a misery of my birthday for years … 🙁

          7. 1/7 (in UK money) is Canada’s Dominion Day. It is also the birthday of one of my first cousins and was the birthday of the Princess of Wails.

            My cousin is a splendid woman but I cannot say the same about Justin Trudeau.

          8. Ignoring your mis-spelling of “Wales”, Richard, why is it that Camilla cannot be called the Princess of Wales whereas Charles is still the Prince of Wales? Perhaps he should be referred to as the Duke of Cornwall (which he is) to prevent him being confused with the late Duke of Windsor or any of his predecessors.

          16. Aids Day is December 1st. The red ribbon is to show support for victims & their families & research into the disease,

      2. Morning Scotty. The occasional glimpse I catch of Savid Javiz leaves me with the impression of a man in a suppressed panic! One is reminded of the old saw, “When in a hole stop digging”, they look to me like they are working on their own grave!

      3. £2,000,000,000. Where do we, the taxpayer, expect to get that money from to continue financing Big Pharma’s super scam?

        1. They’re emptying the treasury (I thought it already was) and distributing the County’s wealth to their mates before the scam unfolds. The ‘arrival’ of the new “variant” appears to be another throw of the dice before more unravelling occurs. The publicity around the “vaccine’s” possible efficacy re Omicron is, in my opinion, designed to cover the complete failure of the product over this year’s bugs.

        1. O/T

          Oi!!

          Needs sprucing up? London’s Christmas tree gift from Norway is a little scrawny this year

          ‘Have we gone to war with them’, ask social media users as traditional gift from the Norwegians is criticised for its ‘neglected’ appearance

          By Patrick Sawer, SENIOR NEWS REPORTER
          1 December 2021 • 7:47pm

          https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2021/12/01/TELEMMGLPICT000279272871_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bq15XUfPwoY7svuJOpueeorS9m2B08iivSFCbX6F6zYOc.jpeg?imwidth=680
          A specialist rigging team erect the tree in Trafalgar Square but its ‘scrawny’ and ‘neglected’ appearance has been roundly mocked

          “Norway has not taken the sacking of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer well”

          *************************************************************
          BTL

          cliff Woods
          11 HRS AGO
          We shouldn’t be churlish about this gift from a loyal ally
          We haven’t had so much as a dandelion in a pot from Johnny frog

          1. No need to be churlish, apart from Portugal, I consider Noway as one of our greatest allies and, as such, should be continually cultivated as such.

            Love you – weegeis – stick with us, we will eventually sort out the silly problems.

    3. As with everything to do with Covid, the goalposts have shifted again. I wonder how those people who proudly put ‘fully-vaccinated’ on their social media profiles feel now? They signed up for ‘double-jabbed and then I’m done’ but actually there is no such thing as ‘fully-vaccinated.’ You will be classed as ‘unvaccinated’ again unless you have had your 3rd shot, then your 4th, 5th, 6th…

      Also, I seem to remember Matt Hancock saying that once the over-70’s were done we would “cry freedom!” Last I heard, they were applying for a license to jab 5-11 year olds.

      Boiling a frog…

    4. I am only taking the jabs in the hope that we will, at some point, be able to travel freely to see our son and young (though now not so young) grandchildren again. If it wasn’t for that factor, I’m not sure I would still fall for the jabs. The more I read/hear about them, the less convinced I am.

      1. Son & family were due on 18th December for 16 days – all jabbed up – parents 3 jabs, kids 10 & 13 2 jabs each.

        Announcements last Friday and by Sunday morning he was cancelling flights, hotels etc etc.
        Logic – matters are not going to improve in the testing regime – restrictions may get stiffer at any time and it was too much to risk £15K flights, car hire etc (+quarantine hotel charges?) and spend all the time in quarantine hotel rather than seeing family.

        That would have been the first visit in 3 years – trying again next July!

        1. It’s all so illogical, unfair and unnecessary. Yet politicians and ‘important’ people can freely fly all over the world, no quarantine, no masks (unless the press are in attendance). And there’s nothing we can do about it.

    5. Since Moderna and Pfizer are based on obsolete antibodies, and by their own admission have a maximum working life of 12 months and would probably not work after the next variant that could be newsworthy within weeks, then why are we limiting our options to just that?

      I know – nobody here can answer this, since we are not our Government’s keeper. They can do what they like with our national resources, because they can, and in a modern democracy, there is nothing we can do to stop them.

      Gandhi suggested the only way to bring sense to our institutions is peaceful but dogged non-co-operation, a wilful refusal to comply with direction on principle. In India, this led to partition and mass slaughter, but hey-ho.

      1. Excellent cartoon

        (A pedant would point out that it was not the monster who was called Frank N. Stein but the doctor who created him. As I strive not to be pedantic I shall refrain from doing so.)

      2. Reminds me of the joke about the nativity play. Three boys were playing the Kings. When it came to offering the gifts, the first said, “I bring you … GOLD!” The second shouted, “I BRING YOU … MYRRH!” The last little boy said, “I bring YOU …” and stopped. Thinking hard, he continued, “FRANK SENT THESE!”

      3. Reminds me of the joke about the nativity play. Three boys were playing the Kings. When it came to offering the gifts, the first said, “I bring you … GOLD!” The second shouted, “I BRING YOU … MYRRH!” The last little boy said, “I bring YOU …” and stopped. Thinking hard, he continued, “FRANK SENT THESE!“

    1. Well, just go, girl.

      You’ll find a NOTTL army behind you.

      Question – do you REALLY have the guts or is it more Tory (INO) bluster?

      1. “Though she supported the UK remaining in the European Union in the 2016 referendum, she came to support Brexit after the result.”
        A little late to the fray. She voted for May’s WA on 29th March 2019 and abstained from the ‘Leave without a Deal’ vote on 12th April 2019.

        1. Adultera Truss might just be a little bit better than Adulterer Johnson?

          But who else is there?

  7. Don’t Always Believe Your Eyes

    During a hard day’s work on the farm, one of the day labourers needs to take a leak. He goes to the edge of the field and pulls out his dick.

    Just then, a bee lands on his glans, and before he can react, the bee stings him! The pain is unbearable, but the labourer remembers what his mother once told him, Buttermilk is the best tonic for a bee sting!

    So he runs to the dairy house and sticks his dick in a bucket of fresh buttermilk. At that moment, the farmer’s daughter comes into the dairy house. She is frozen by the sight.

    The labourer, mortified asks, “What’s the matter? Haven’t you ever seen one of these before?”

    “Oh, I’ve seen one before,” replies the farmer’s daughter, “but this is the first time I’ve ever seen one being re-loaded!”

  9. ‘Morning, Peeps.

    If anything epitomizes the indolence of parts of the public sector, first prize must surely go to the DVLA:

    SIR – Five weeks ago I applied online to the DVLA for renewal of my wife’s driving licence, for which no additional documentation was required. I received an acknowledgment and was told that she would get the new licence within two weeks. As it has not yet arrived, I recently tried to make contact.

    The DVLA does not accept emails or any digital communication, so I have written letters and phoned. Calls made at 8am, when the office opens, get the same response as calls at all other times of the day, which is: “All our lines are busy. Please try later.” This suggests to me that it has no intention of answering calls.

    All I want to know is the date on which the licence was posted and what we should do if it is not received before the expiry of her present licence. Is this too much to expect?

    Ken Webb
    Bardsey, West Yorkshire

    I don’t think Mr Webb realises that a driver can look up details of their licence on the DVLA website. This will show whether or not it has been processed. Even if it hasn’t, his wife should be able to continue to drive after the expiry date provided she hasn’t been advised by a doctor or an optician that she should cease to do so. At the same time they should make urgent contact with their MP, and copy in the chairman of the Transport Committe (Huw Merriman MP) for a relatively quick resolution.

    Of course, none of this should be necessary. Replacing the chief exec, Julie Lennard, might be a good start to the resumption of anything like an acceptable service. Better still, break up the DVLA and return to regional licencing offices…

    1. My licence is due to expire in February 2026, when I will be seventy. Should I be applying for a renewal now?

      1. Leave it, Jeremy, let ’em stew. Don’t give them any reason to be alert and poised to take advantage.

    2. I seems to me the acknowledgment by DVLA confirms she ha a licence. Carry a copy of the email with you.

  10. SIR – Phil Mobbs (Letters, December 1) outlines many of the pitfalls surrounding the push for the country to run on electric power, as illustrated by the recent havoc wrought by Storm Arwen. One additional problem that affected villages in this area was the failure of the electric pumping system for the water supply. Several were without water as well as power until Tuesday.

    A further problem for the village shop was the loss of power for the tills and digital payments. This will have affected retailers over the entire region, from Scotland to Lincolnshire.

    Like Mr Mobbs, we will not be parting with our wood-burning stove and will continue our rearguard resistance to the attempts to stop us using cash.

    Felicity McWeeney
    Morpeth, Northumberland

    SIR – Like Phil Mobbs, we suffered three days and nights in gales and freezing temperatures but survived very comfortably thanks to our log-burning stove.

    Not only did we have continuous and powerful heat and glowing light, but we were also able to cook and boil water. At night we put embers in my grandmother’s Victorian brass bed warmer and warmed the freezing bedsheets in just a few minutes (an electric blanket takes far longer). The gales also brought down lots of trees – enough to keep us supplied with free fuel for years to come.

    Peter Froggatt
    Troutbeck, Cumbria

    Even now there are still parts of Cumbria without power. This was a storm, not a flippin’ hurricane!

    1. Anyone who experienced the hurricane in 1987 will never forget that night. N Essex was badly hit and I ventured out as daylight broke to look at the damage. I’d lost some ridge tiles and a few slates were damaged. The garden was a bit of a mess and many trees in the locality badly damaged but the one incident that has always stuck in my memory was the sight of the milk float weaving its way around the debris on the road.

      1. Typical English phlegm, Korky.

        Well done that man – I’ve a job to do and I’ll do it. Good man.

      2. Reminiscent of the wartime photo of the milkman delivering (on foot) through piles of rubble from bomb-damaged houses.

  11. Morning all.

    There is a global war going on at the moment but it”s not humans against viruses – it’s virus variants against virus variants. Like all families some members start to establish dominance, a fight develops and the weakest just don’t survive.

    This chart shows how Omicron variant (in Orange) is taking over:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/378250ec40a47a365685d46a9e92a970e759cf221d2262bf0f69065f5b1d4b69.jpg

    Ironically, the Omicron variant (in Orange) is set to wipe out all the previous ones quite quickly and the progression worldwide is shown in this: (“next slide please!”)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9bcfbe70690e7cfec21cd9de81b8f5aea8954ecbef53769a6c9db25024ff095e.png

    Full discussion and attributes about how much we don’t know and what we aren’t doing about it in https://metro.co.uk/2021/12/01/birth-of-omicron-variant-captured-in-covid-family-tree-map-15695157/

  12. SIR – Good on Nick Timothy (Comment, November 29). The Tory life raft has been under attack for years now from the Old Guard, who still refuse to accept the result of the democratic Brexit vote. They and the media have been trying to sink Boris Johnson ever since, but risk sinking the Tory party instead. No matter how unpalatable Mr Johnson is, a Labour government would be much worse.

    Better to retire with what dignity they have left and cede the Tory party to the new generation of MPs.

    Don Edwards
    Lawford, Essex

    It is my clear impression that Johnson is sinking himself, although he will probably take the party with him in the process.

    1. Take note, OGGA1 “No matter how unpalatable Mr Johnson is, a Labour government would be much worse.”

      Here you have ALL the reasons why fools keep voting Lib/Lab/Con – there is NO alternative – as yet.

      1. When a vote for None of the Above is an option that is actually counted you will have the option of voting rather than abstaining or spoiling your ballot paper which are the only options when nobody presents him/herself to whom you are happy to give your vote.

        I often agree with ogga on many points but I wish that he would tell us how he would vote on such an occasion. Would he vote for the person he detests the least? Would he spoil his ballot paper? Would he abstain altogether?

    2. I find it more and more difficult to understand why so many people thought that the bumblingly incoherent bonker was a clever man. He strikes me as rather stupid.

  14. Whom to believe, Panic Johnson and Javid the Bald who have an agenda to follow or someone on the ground in South Africa?

    Interesting comment in the article re purchase of the potion. If true what does that indicate re the “pandemic” in Africa? If the MSM hadn’t become purveyors of propaganda and liars by omission for the government we wouldn’t have to rely on anecdotal reports from social media.

    “5 of the 7 African countries put on the no-fly list had days earlier rejected further delivery of the vaccines. ….You don’t even have to join the dots. They join themselves.”

    British man living in SA explains what he’s experiencing re the “variant”

      1. Perhaps those African countries listened to an independent Belgian expert re mass inoculation via a therapeutic “vaccine” as opposed to protecting the vulnerable and achieve ‘herd’ immunity via both our innate and acquired immune systems. The “vaccine” does not sterilise the virus it merely attempts to mitigate the symptoms of the illness brought on by the infection. Our politicians are either too stupid or too tightly controlled to understand the problem.

  15. Further snow, hail and icy conditions to hit UK as temperatures plummet. 2 December 2021.

    The weather in the UK of late has seen wintry conditions, with these set to continue as snow and cooler temperatures are set to hit over the next few days.

    Thank God for Global Warming!

    (msn.com)

  20. A couple of excellent BTL comments:

    Olivia Wilde
    48 MIN AGO
    Curious that all the many advocates of Lockdowns and even more draconian restrictions are all members of the “I’m alright jack”, brigade, with many of them being able to work from home, or been furloughed, all with the luxury of being risk averse, evermore cossetted and protected In their metropolitan bubble.

    They laud It and sneer over all the rest of us, those who may well bring them their parcels, their online groceries and wine deliveries.

    The electricians, plumbers, road workers, dustmen, car mechanics, cleaners, shop workers , transport workers and all the many others who are not cushioned In all their privilege, who have continued to work throughout and whom without, the country would come to a very abrupt halt.
    They seriously need to get back In their fur lined boxes and are In dire need of a reality check. Try experiencing the real world just for once!

    Colin MacDonald
    6 HRS AGO
    “Government orders ‘variant-proof’ Covid vaccines”
    And there we have the delusion of this jurisdiction laid bare for all to see. A delusion of omnipotence, arrogance and complete and utter scientific incompetence in one phrase. Please Mr Johnson, go and hide under the nearest pebble, you are not a serious leader, you are vainglorious and pathetic. Get out of our lives. Stop trying to be everything to everyone. Be true to the Conservative ideal of small government and go and boil your head.
    Omicron is a common cold and Mr Johnson’s government is a disgrace. Why is he destroying the country for a disease that has the symptoms of a cold?

    * * *

    Hear, hear to both!

    1. Such a pity that we cannot supply unlimited upticks to these two brave souls, who will soon find themselves in the Tory version of Newgate.

    2. Another of Panic Johnson’s deluded “promises” that fall from his mouth without having troubled his brain and then dissipates rapidly. He can’t possibly know if such a creation is really possible and if, as the reported symptoms indicate, this “variant” is akin to a cold, why bother? He’s panicked because he needs an excuse to push ‘boosters’, mask wearing, lockdown etc to help keep his agenda on track.

    3. If Olivia and Colin aren’t already Nottlers, they should be invited to join! Better still, elect one of them as PM – they would have to be better!!

      1. I wonder if there are any on here who have access to the DT’s BTL comments and let them know we exist?

  22. I was only thinking this morning that if only we had Macron as PM and not Boris we could be sending all the refugees off to Iceland on rubber dinghies with a clear conscience and all with the full support of the Left and the BBC, just like the French are doing now.

  23. US warns Russia it will be hit with harshest sanctions yet if it invades Ukraine. 2 December 2021.

    In response to Russia placing troops on the Ukraine border, US secretary of state Anthony Blinken warns that Washington will use “high impact economic measures” against Moscow if it decides to invade.

    In the strongest US warning yet about the crisis, Anthony Blinken voiced deep concern about a build-up of tens of thousands of Russian forces around Ukraine coupled with a more than ten-fold spike in disinformation, falsely painting the Ukrainian government as the aggressor.

    Both Stoltenberg and Blinken have recanted. So now we know that at the NATO meeting on Monday the organisation decided not to fight if Russia invades Ukraine. While reducing the chances of WW3 breaking out this paradoxically increases the chances of the lesser happening. That they’ve led the President of Ukraine up the Garden Path by promising him such probably bothers them not one iota.

    The “high impact economic measures” are very probably exclusion from SWIFT, the international payment system. That Russia will sit idle while this happens seems unlikely and will eventually provoke what now seems to be an inevitable war between Russia, the last bastion of Western Christian Civilisation, and a Decadent and Dying Europe.

    https://news.sky.com/story/us-warns-russia-it-will-be-hit-with-harshest-sanctions-yet-if-it-invades-ukraine-12483967

  24. In today’s DT (well, I never…):

    Michael Buerk: Freedom of speech under threat at ‘increasingly woke’ BBC

    The veteran broadcaster is concerned his ‘no holds barred’ show The Moral Maze could lose its ability to be provocative

    By
    Anita Singh,
    ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT EDITOR
    2 December 2021 • 6:00am

    Freedom of speech is under threat at the BBC, Michael Buerk has said, as he expressed fears that The Moral Maze may fall victim to woke ideology.

    Buerk has presented the Radio 4 programme for 31 years, chairing debate on the ethics behind the news stories of the week.

    Radio 4, Buerk said, had a “hopeless yearning to connect with yoof” and was struggling to square its Middle England listenership with “its voguish, increasingly woke-sounding board”.

    He is concerned about the show’s continuing ability to be provocative in a time when “public discourse, poisoned by social media, is ever more inclined to regard anybody with a different view as not just wrong, but evil”.

    ‘New orthodoxies are beyond challenge’
    Writing in the Radio Times, Buerk said: “We used to pride ourselves it was a programme on which ‘the unsayable gets said’. There were no holds barred, the audience were grown-ups and didn’t need protecting from views they might not like.

    “The arguments weren’t curated or choreographed, and they didn’t need censoring because the whole point of the programme was to test them to destruction.

    “It survives, even prospers in a modest way, despite the temper of the times. In the wider world – and, it has to be said, in some parts of the BBC – more and more is being put off limits, things that cannot possibly be said, new orthodoxies that are beyond challenge. I do think freedom of speech is seriously under threat.”

    He added: “I won’t say we don’t feel it on The Moral Maze … Maybe we’re a bit less abrasive than we used to be. To their credit, Radio 4 bigwigs have largely kept their nerve. I honour them for it, but sometimes worry about how long that will last.”
    Buerk, 75, has spent 52 years at the BBC and said there was “nervousness” among veteran broadcasters after Adam Boulton, the Sky News anchor, announced he was “past his sell-by date” and quitting the station.

    “Time was, he’d have gone on growing into his 80s. But times change, the boxes he ticked so well are now labelled ‘privilege’, and the old guard is being replaced by one that is conspicuously, purposefully, less uniform,” said Buerk.

    He claimed that Radio 4 was more stable because its audience “can’t stand change” – although half the audience “feel like drowning themselves in their cornflakes” after listening to the Today programme.

    * * *

    I believe that the Moral Maze, excellent though it is, is living on borrowed time, and I suspect that this article may well hasten its demise. It has to some extent lost its bite, and it was never better than when Dr David Starkey (he of the enviable intellect ,in my opinion) was on the panel.

    These leading BTLs sum up the comments:

    Mr Someonesomewhere
    49 MIN AGO

    Michael Buerk is a BBC legend. I used to listen to Radio 4 because of people like him.

    Now, I have stopped listening to the Today programme. The last straw was Amol Rajan’s solipsistic description of how he was nervous about his first day at work with the Today programme. They actually made this a ‘news story’ anchored in a piece about anxiety. The young producers love this stuff because it makes things “real”. I just wanted real news (not news about the sleeping habits of a well paid journalist).

    Still, it’s only a matter of time until Rajan is DG. All hail, the mighty Rajan!
    I have not even mentioned the Twitter activist known as Emily Matliss.

    Fun DaMental
    12 MIN AGO

    Just the other day, as the increasingly tiresome Today programme closed, the continuity announcer, with a sincerity so clear you could smell it, described the next ‘treat’ in store. A documentary about a woman with an unpronounceable name (African?) who, he exclaimed, had suffered racism, misogyny and homophobia and was to tell us all about our nasty country’s attitudes.
    Situation normal at today’s BBC. I’m so pleased I haven’t contributed a penny to this divisive, anti-British corporation for some years. Indeed I just tune into Radio 4 occasionally to see how much more woke it has become.

    1. I would happily see this Woke Propaganda outlet bombed! (Exclusive of Sue of course!)

        5. Yes! and Cliff Michelmore and Kenneth Allsop. I liked Mr Allsop’s hair style, and now I have one like it.

    3. “The Moral Maze could lose its ability to be provocative…”

      You wouldn’t have been able to tell whether yesterday’s edition was being provocative as only Buerk could be heard. ‘Technical problems’ meant the panel and the guests were all but inaudible. The plug was quickly pulled. The subject? ‘The morality of borders’.

  27. Kellogg’s trials Corn Flakes paper liner to make packaging fully recyclable. 2 December 2021.

    Kellogg’s is trialling fully recyclable packaging for its boxes of Corn Flakes, with the replacement of the plastic liner for paper.

    Chris Silcock, Kellogg UK and Ireland managing director, said: “We know people want to do more to help the planet and that’s why we are working hard towards meeting our commitment of all Kellogg’s packaging being reusable, recyclable or compostable by the end of 2025.

    Just thought that you would all like to know that so you can sleep at night!

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/tesco-ireland-belgium-b969534.html

    1. Phew, I can’t tell you what a relief it is to know that a cereal I don’t eat will now be wrapped in paper (no doubt accompanied by a price increase or a weight reduction – or both!)

      ‘Morning Minty

    2. I always loathed the cheap nasty plastic packaging. My mother used to save the old greaseproof paper one to wrap sandwiches in.

        1. We could recover all sorts of fusty ideas; like freedom of speech, safety at public gatherings, no government micromanagement of our lives …..

          1. Returnable “reputed quart” beer bottles with rubber stoppers. The list is endless – and the planet would be all the better for it.

    3. Cereal box inner bags are recyclable – supermarkets have accepted them along with bread bags for a long time.

      1. I’m reading from the bottom up and you’re talking a lot of sense.
        Good morning Anne.

  28. Good morning all. A frosty but clear start with -3°C in the yard.

    The DT & Self have both received consolation prizes off ERNIE this morning. Better then nothing.

  31. BT sets target for a quarter of staff to be non-white

    BT is aiming to more than double the share of its workforce from non-white backgrounds to 25pc by 2030, becoming the biggest British
    employer so far to impose such a target and going further than others

    I totally agree.

    The way things are going,by 2030 “people of non-white backgrounds” will comprise 60% of the population of UK.

    Then listen to the complaint from the non English speaking majority.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/12/01/bt-sets-target-quarter-staff-non-white/

    1. PS BT will add their support for the continuing need of the Doverista Boat people as it will need those who can speak

      Urdu
      Somali
      Bantwo
      Banthree
      Iranian
      etc

      1. A few years ago I was in Hawick looking for a particular business, in the real world, on foot. I’d thought I’d found it but it was shut. I went into a place next door to ask about it. There was young man there and we got chatting. He worked for a magazine that promoted Turkey. The office was in Hawick because that was where the magazine owner lived. The young man gave me a copy of the magazine to take away. The photographs of Istanbul were wonderful. I put a trip to Istanbul on the “to do” list (visions of myself and the Sultana dressed up in the full traditional pasha mode). Then a tourist night club was bombed. Scratch visit to Istanbul.

        1. We had two days there, en route to a family wedding in Athens! It was cheaper to fly via Turkey, with a 2 night stay in a lovely hotel just off Sultanahmett Square, than to fly direct! Fabulous place, so much to see and great people and food! One restaurant owner (rooftop, overlooking the Blue Mosque) was delighted when he heard we lived in Falkirk! So had he (in The Bog!) and had married and taken his wife out there! 2 weeks later that bomb made us realise how much danger Erdogan has created.

          1. For an awful moment I thought that you spent two days in Hawick. No one does that voluntarily.

  35. Too many people have a vested interest in this permanent Covid emergency
    Blaming the pandemic has become a convenient excuse for bodies that fail to do their jobs properly

    ALLISTER HEATH : DT – https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/01/many-people-have-vested-interest-permanent-covid-emergency/

    BTL

    The vaccine is not a proper vaccine. it does not stop you getting the disease; it does not stop you passing the disease on; it has disastrous side effects for many who take it. The vaccine is a failure. The vaccine is a dud.

    Why is there not a single MP who is honest and brave enough to admit that the vaccine is a dud? Why is there not a single politician prepared to say we must stop the vaccination programme immediately; we must treat Covid with proven drugs such as ivermectin?

    The answer is simple: the politicians are doing too well out of Covid and Big Pharma has them by the short and curlies. Added to which, as sadistic and inadequate twerps, they love the power Covid has given them over a spineless population.

    2. Blaming the pandemic has become a convenient excuse for bodies that fail to do their jobs properly – and they need a new one now that they cannot blame the EU. Arses need covered, don’cha know?

  36. A Pfizer spokesman on the 10 minute BBC Radio 4 news slot justifying the massive profit Pfizer is getting from the Covid virus sale by saying the vaccine is saving the world economy $trillions.

  37. ‘Morning All

    Sad and uncomfortable times as the 4th and 5th jabs are being lined up,people (including my own family) would spend more time on the net researching a new duvet than their own health.

    All too often even the gentlest hint to look at something is greeted with anger and “I don’t have time to look at that”

    Truly Mark twain was right…….

    It’s Easier to Fool People Than It Is to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled.”

    Is it fear?? Is it denial??

    The lies are so blatant to anyone who looks……..

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/71e68a3adef8f04652254b1ba7ae5f89624df589ded35b926d71f998b263511d.jpg
    Once again the carrot of free travel is being used to enforce the stick(sic) of the jabs and all over Europe the talk is of compulsion,chilling times….

    1. Best Beloved’s reasoning is, “Look long enough and you’ll find anything you want to find.”

      She doesn’t seem to want to search for the truth.

    1. Only female mosquitos bite. Males live off nectar and the like and die after a few days. Females live over a month and can lay eggs many times, needing to feed after each laying.

      Given that mosquito-borne diseases have killed more humans than any other disease, feminists seem quiet on the havoc females bring. Funny that.

      Oh, given they’re inactive or dead below 10 deg C, we’re safe for the moment.

      1. This is the reason that Singapore banned any form of standing water with draconian fines and imprisonment for allowing it.

        Standing (stagnant) water is where malaria carrying mosquitoes breed.

        Singapore is malaria-free.

    2. Only female mosquitos bite. Males live off nectar and the like and die after a few days. Females live over a month and can lay eggs many times, needing to feed after each laying.

      Given that mosquito-borne diseases have killed more humans than any other disease, feminists seem quiet on the havoc females bring. Funny that.

      Oh, given they’re inactive or dead below 10 deg C, we’re safe for the moment.

  40. #CovidClownWorld

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1ff927d3705a0350500b766fe0f2dc35092a5f2bebd3c7cc796b71b148a6a7c6.jpg

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0d0f87b3e005ac54e9a73551b02ea248696af75b0dd8b4cd537e04e165f8cdf2.png

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/06081b711f6d4de8367850d806d19b218e46ec1716e0486b25c9eaef1ae76923.png

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0e7c6046e0f62d6e374bac0230869364244ecdf1bd01fc790ae7ed0a678cf3da.jpg

    Worth reposting!!

    https://twitter.com/reflectionsv2/status/1465666913187549187?s=21

      1. MB – a fortnight to the day after his first jab.
        See Basildon (and, in this case) don’t die.

        1. Two of our friends have just got over Covid – they got the symptoms the day after their booster jab!

  41. Yesterday I went to a popular Suffolk pub for lunch. When I booked I was told that I could not have the time I wanted but a later slot was available and that they ran a two hours limit on table occupancy. I decided to accept the conditions as I know it is a very popular place with good food and service. When I arrived I was surprised that the car park wasn’t full and my surprise continued when I entered the restaurant, there was plenty of table space and I was 15 minutes early. Now, was this a result of people cancelling their bookings or a result of staff shortages? I’ve heard this latter excuse at other pub restaurants since July. Tomorrow I’m off again into Suffolk for another meal with a friend at the Kersey Bell. This pub has been on reduced opening for some time due to a shortage of staff. It has recently changed hands so it will be interesting to see if the same problem exists. I hope the new team are up to the job.

    https://twitter.com/TiceRichard/status/1466307974238982150

      1. Will do. Went there a couple of months ago and it was fine. I always take the time to go to Hollow Trees Farm shop, mainly for the chesses they sell.

    3. Looks like a passive-aggressive manifestation of their feelings on Brexit, a bit ironic given that the gift celebrates our help to them when, in 1940-44, we last cut our selves off from Franco-German domination of Europe.

      1. But Norway, like us, is not in the EU. Why would they be concerned about Brexit?

        My theory is that the tree got caught in Storm A. on the way over. Joke!

    1. I suppose cynically you could add another photo of a little innocent African American girl and add……
      Asking her to apologise for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

  45. Good morning everybody.
    Apart from Rastus and one other, are there are any Nottlers who are still unvaxxed?

        1. And me of course, although I get scared sometimes with unusual headaches, coughs, sneezing, sore throats etc.
          The omaicron version is probably the one to catch, which could explain why the Govt is trying to ban it.
          I struggle with the idea that GPs are unavailable for patients, but are willing to administer an injection on behalf of the PM. At 12 patients per hour, for an 8 hour shift that would add up to £1440. And if they have volunteers to help, that’s all profit, so no reason to rock the boat.

          1. Doctors don’t give the jab. They may be involved in the management of jabbing and be available in case of immediate adverse reactions, but that shouldn’t affect their availability one iota.

            Furthermore, all but one of the dozen or so GPs at my surgery are part time so doing an odd extra day shouldn’t bother them much.

          2. Tim, so glad to read that! I consider that with knowledge now extant anybody at any level promoting delivering or mandating the injectates is committing at least one serious criminal offence and perhaps others depending on individual outcomes.

          3. The very nasty bug that my daughter had a couple of weeks ago tried to get me with a sore throat for a day, but was beaten back by my vits+quercetine+sport routine! (or previous immunity, who knows??)
            Hopefully covid will get the same short shrift.

          4. Indeed, as I postulated yesterday it would be good if Omicron was to Corona as Cowpox was to Smallpox. i.e. Omicron is a mild disease which gives those who have it immunity from all other versions of Covid 19.

            But if this turned out to be the case the PTB would do their very best to supress the information.

    7. No. Did my bit to give my grandchildren the sort of freedom we had at their age. I’ll not be bothering again.
      Fool me once etc……

    10. I have not been “vaccinated”. I posted the response from my MSP regarding curtailed freedom.

    12. Me.I haven’t been to a doctor or hospital since 1978 when i broke three toes in an accident at work.
      Needless to say…i am not on ze list of any doctor or health body.

    13. I had the first 2 (AZ) but I’m not bothering with the booster. Whilst I believe that having the vaccines is far safer than not, I just can’t be bothered and am depressed by what my country and world has become, happy to let fate decide

    14. Yes there are, thank goodness. Those who are already victims will not want to know the undoubted change in their life expectancy – let us hope that it is temporary, but the signs are not good.

      The reason the Nottlers exist is the criminal activity around the promotion of the injectates which has corrupted the media and made it impossible to discuss this subject in the Telegraph, where many of us had been commenters for decades. I have not had the injectates and I am banned from commenting in the Telegraph. These matters are inextricably linked.

      https://www.tarableu.com/vaccinated-english-adults-under-60-are-dying-at-twice-the-rate-of-unvaccinated-people-the-same-age/

    15. I haven’t had it, and based on currently available data, I won’t have it voluntarily, though I don’t rule out being coerced.

    17. I am Spartacus. I prefer to rely on my own immune system; it’s served me well for over 70 years.

  46. The unravelling of Sheridan Smith
    As the actress skids off the road in her Range Rover, are the years of negative headlines taking their toll?
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/unravelling-sheridan-smith/

    This is very sad – I always thought she was a good and attractive actress. However her personal life and her relationships with her family were well publicised and not altogether healthy.

    BTL

    Her life started to fall apart when she began injecting the horrid graffiti of gaudy and tasteless tattoos into her body.

    A pretty and talented girl who starts doing this is probably in need of psychiatric help.

  47. Prince Hapless’ wife has won the DM’s appeal against the judgement that her privacy had been infringed: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/12/02/meghan-duchess-sussex-latest-mail-sunday-ruling-letter-father/

    The result is hardly surprising as the law is clear over the copyright of letters and there is no overbearing human interest argument.

    Yet again, litigation serves only lawyers and the legal system. Hapless’ wife may have won and got the publicity she craved, but has been shown to be a liar and scheming narcissist.

      1. After i had read about her i tried to post it, but the article had vanished.
        Try and google her, she’s in trouble for bringing possible fraudulent paper work into the public domain.

        2. Thanks. Yes, I looked her up. The hydroxychloroquine thing seems to have been about sloppy work in triage of subjects etc, rather than the deliberate fraud such as that by the Chinese “research mills”.

      1. 342358+ up ticks,

        Evening JWE,

        By the same token the dregs in downing street are
        once again there by public majority vote, the same type dregs / party’s dating back to major.

    1. Modern technology eh.
      I find it strange that after being treated so often to pictures and scenes of the glory of wind power and all the turbines all over our land and sea scape, it seems that the recent storm has felled many trees and power lines have accordingly suffered. Some people have been with out electricity for nearly a week. Fair play to the people who are working hard to restore the power supplies. But what happened to the glorification of the wind turbines, did any of them suffer damaged were any of them blown over as well ? Is there another huge lump under the carpet ?

    3. I followed an Openreach van this morning, it had a sign on the back stating they are recruiting in this area. Never seen the like of that before, it looks like they can’t keep the staff they got, when I worked in the industry everybody I knew had a date in mind when they could get out. Nothing has improved I’d wager.

      1. Yo vvof

        It is very unusual to see just one Openreach van: they normally hunt in packs of six or more, therefore, if anyone
        applies for tha job, he/sh/it needs to take Five mates with him.

        I suppose, that ‘home-working’ is not an option

  51. I see toyboy has been accused of calling Boris a Clown.
    Ouch,…… another shot from the top of the rigging by another french sniper when they are losing another plot.

          1. Something our political classes seem to be in most of the time. You get a free Orange for that answer.
            It’s better then a Limp Popo.

          1. I’ve been there …..a local guide took us along the bank to see the Hippos in the water blowing out their huge and loud spouts of water.
            Unfortunately all my colour slides of Africa had vanished somewhere, probably shoved in the loft. I have a photo of my self stranding right on the edge of the Victoria falls.
            I remember a poem from school days that began “On the grey green greasy banks of the Limpopo……

    2. The irony that they have taken out a reference to the hero being female to pander to pro-feminist Woke mobs seems to be lost on Greene King.

    3. There is one near St Albans (Brickett Wood) Called ‘The Black Boy’.
      They didn’t have a large enough board to fit in “The poor little afro-Caribbean juvenile whose parents were sold for a pittance by their tribal leader in Africa and were sent to the Caribbean islands to work for the rest of their own and their families lives’ in the sunny Bahamas”. In brackets below. (Which is now a very popular holiday spot for Europeans who spend a lot of money there)…………… And still they go on moaning about slavery.

      1. There used to be a pub near where my brother lives called the “Labour in Vain”. It depicted someone trying to scrub a piccaninny clean. Bet that’s long gone!

        1. We used to have a pub in Folkestone called “The Honest Lawyer”. I’ve never mentioned it to U Bill.

    4. My mate is in fear of his local, the Whyte Hart Hotel, being renamed as it is white-supremacist, sexist/trans-exclusionary (hart being an archaic name for a fully mature male deer or stag) and celebrates a time before non-white immigration enriched us.

      2. If I remember rightly, all pubs/hostelries called the White Hart were named by their owners to show their support for Richard II.

    2. Neighbour had his booster 9 days ago and 2 days ago was rushed into hospital suffering a heart attack, due to a blood clot his wife was told.
      Conspiracy theories or just plain facts starting to emerge, you decide.

      1. Daily Mail is reporting* today that AZ have found a reason that the AZ vaccine is causing blood clots.

        *take reporting and Daily Mail in the same sentence with a grain of salt.

        1. But………..they are not using AZ for boosters.
          Myocarditis has been rife ever since the jabs started.

      2. On its own that’s useless. People without a booster die that way every day. Is the number of people dying after a jab higher than expected. A quick back-off-fag-packet that with 1,600+ people dying in the U.K. every day shows you’d expect 17,000 people dying in your 11 days, the majority of whom would not have been expecting to die so could have had a jab over, say 2 months, giving, say, 17,000/(365×2/12) less a chunk = 200+ of those deaths within 11 days of a booster expected every day.

      3. Terrible state of affairs. And now these insane morons want to start injecting children as young as 5 years old.
        A friend of ours died last Friday of a stroke. We are not sure, but it’s likely he’d recently had a booster.

        1. Ooh! Sounds good! We’re still hoping for the return of their passion fruit cheesecake!

          1. I make passionfruit ice cream. With passoa to add a little alcoholic kick. Makes a good passionfruit martini too.

            The Stratford blue is more like Roquefort than Stilton. Nice and creamy. It also means i don’t have to buy French !

          2. Don’t know if you get it ‘darn sarf’ but they do a Strathdon Blue which is also creamy and delicious!
            It comes from Tain, which is the home of Glenmorangie!

          5. I’ve always liked Glenmorangie if only because the correct pronunciation rhymes with orangey.

            It is a good single malt of the Speyside ilk.

          8. I have just been given an ice-ceam maker with a compressor – is that the word? I previously had one where you had to bung the churner in the freezer overnight. It was a bit of a hassle and took up a lot of room in our over-fridge freezer. So poppiesdad couldn’t resist a black Friday offer of £70 off. How many passion fruits did you use, and what quantity of passoa?

        1. “And henceforth ye shall know a fellow Nottler by their disregard for foul nonsensical government face-covering mandates, that, and a trickle of drool from the lower lip.”

          2. Thanks for asking. I’m verging on fit for duty right this minute, with just a bit of a throaty cough and my sense of smell hasn’t come back yet. The other two are lagging behind a bit and I will be chivvying them along as we all need to lose it to regain our freedom (hah).

          3. Glad to hear it. I had a rotten day yesterday- ate some spring rolls I bought in the supermarket and I think I had food poisoning. Was wretched until the evening. Better today, thank god.
            Hope you are able to make open mic on Monday;-)

    2. Those figures are meaningless. Briefly: approximately 40,000 cases, 11,000 not yet recovered, 1223 died, 9,400 unknown, 28,000 recovered. But: from how many millions jabbed, how many would you expect from a population without a jab, how many of these conditions in those with Covid, any difference between vaccines (Pfizer, AZ, Modena etc?), and so on.

        1. Ah, you illustrate how easy it is to be misled. The story is about trials, but the paragraph heading states ‘post-authorisation’ ie after approval, which must be after the trials.

          3. I think that is a little harsh. This information does lack context, and as such, we need to find out more about it. It is still of interest.

            Even if those figures were for the whole population of Great Britain, you cannot just arbitrarily murder 1200 people twice a year with mandatory or coerced vaccinations.
            People need to be told what the risk is, and given a free choice about whether to take it or not.

    3. https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf

      This appears to be the original document that the tweet material came from. I have read through it and it seems to be a summary of adverse events during the trial regardless of whether they were jab related or not. Therefore the 1223 fatalities may have nothing to do with the jab and may be perfectly normal for the number of jabs given. Unfortunately the total number of jabs involved appears to have been redacted (b)(4) in the document which makes confirming this difficult.

      I’m sceptical but will keep on digging.

      2. I guess one would have to know the size of the trial, and then how many people would be expected to die from a similar sized sample in the same time period normally.
        If consistent with the results since release in Scotland or Germany, you’d expect to see about 1.5% more deaths than usual, assuming that the jabbed cohort were half of the total).

        1. 1223 deaths is an awful lot for such a trial group in my opinion. The COVID vaccine trials weren’t small but I’m not aware that they were that large to have that number of natural deaths.

  56. One of the problems at present is the number of good people, many in official positions, who don’t like the coercive tactics but still harbour the idea that the vaccines work and that public health has not been corrupted. This judge in East Kentucky is a good example, but we all know lots closer to home.

    https://www.tarableu.com/gregory-f-van-tatenhove-district-judge-in-frankfort-kentucky-is-a-good-example-of-where-things-are-still-stuck-in-the-minds-of-good-men/

    2. And the police were where ?
      They have the faces let’s see what they do about it …………………

    3. It’s funny, as the entire state edifice turned a blind eye to Muslim racism.

      Heck, look at the coverage the Giselaine Maxwell trial is receiving compared to that of the Pakistani Muslim paedophiles did.

  58. Hello all! Update from she who is, somewhat inevitably, now referred to by friends and family (rotters, to a man) as the Lady in the Van.

    I woke again to snow, after another night of hail-laden gales, and decided to capitalise on the atmosphere by listening to Rautavaara’s Cantus Arcticus (highly recommended if you are interested in bird calls). I shall ignore the fact that all I can actually hear up here on the Yorkshire Wolds is the occasional brainlessly grackling pheasant.

    It’s what you might call a steep learning curve! I was disappointed not to be able to put an awning up when I first arrived, but am now glad I didn’t, as half the site’s awnings are down. I’ve been helping to rescue some of them and learning in the process how *not* to do things (always useful). Bloody glad of an electricity supply, given that it’s buggered elsewhere; anything can be faced when one is warm and has an endless supply of tea.

    Things are gradually finding homes in cupboards – I brought too much on purpose, knowing that I would soon pare down the inessentials. WiFi means I can keep in touch, and for once I have a vaguely interesting translation to keep me off the icy streets. The eventual aim is to support myself through portrait painting – skylights mean the place is wonderful when there is light (naturally, there was absolutely none to be had yesterday; today is better). I shall keep you all informed. (For those who worry, I have had the van checked out thoroughly for safety.)

    Anyway, to more important things – if anyone is able to get to York on Saturday, please consider coming to “The North Unites”. We’re protesting, yet again, against (in my case) vaccine passports and the unspoken slide into tyranny. Gathering point is by the Minster at 1 p.m. It would be lovely to meet any of you who can make it! I’m pretty sure there are a few lurkers in the vicinity. I suspect I shan’t get as much media attention as usual due to being wrapped up like an Eskimo, but I’ll be there.

    Cheers,

    Katy

      1. I’m still getting up to scratch (want to charge a decent price when I go public), so nothing’s out there officially yet. Been practising on friends and family over the past couple of years, and they seem mostly to work out as pretty traditional. I’m happy to show you some if you want – get in touch via an older post if you’re interested 🙂

          1. Remind me when I’ve settled down a bit! Hopping in and out of here on my laptop, which I don’t usually do, and I can’t see a button for adding a photo . . .

        2. We ought to have a virtual art exhibition on here one day, there are so many artists. Agree on a day, and each post several works, maybe.

          I am terribly interested, but only from the point of view of seeing other people’s art, I’m afraid! There are so many artists in my family, we all paint each other’s portraits.
          In stag ram is addictive if you are nosy about other people’s work – I have learned masses since I started following it – and I have a library of useful images saved.

      2. Katy did a very nice picture of my Dolly dog. When Katy becomes world famous i intend to sell it for £100,000,000

    2. Is the van a way of life for you now, ATD? (I may have missed earlier information). I mean your permanent home? Lots of people live alternative-style lives out there.

      I will give the cantus a listening.

      1. Yep; I decided it was the only way to avoid being pinned down ever abloodygain in a place not of my choosing. I may not have mentioned it before; things have been rather chaotic, completing the sale of my late mother’s house, and plans only solidified at the last minute. No idea what’s going to happen – it will be interesting to see!

    4. Would love to be there, but …. we travelled as far north as Bury-St-Edmunds on Tuesday. That’s exotic enough at the moment.
      However, spiritually I’m with you, as I didn’t wear a mask in the shop today and nobody argued.

  59. My Apple phone isn’t working.. I am with O2, I can make calls on Whats App, but I am stymied making a normal call. It says service not available , why is that. I am uptodate with my credit . It was working up untill mid day yesterday ..and took some photos on my dog walk and tried to send them . In fact I take more photos than I do making phonecalls ?

    Any techie wizards on here ?

    1. I know it’s flippin obvious, but have you shut it down and re-started it?
      My ancient phone does that sometimes but a re-start sorts it out. I can take the battery out though, to ensure that everything has to really re-start from scratch, which you can’t.

    2. That sometimes happens with my Apple phone (EE, not O2) when at home, a place of marginal reception. Shutting down then restarting the phone sorts it

  60. We heard from a rather upset sonny boy last night.

    His company Christmas lunch has now been made into a virtual Lunch – spend $25 on lunch then sit in front of your computer and eat the meal during a zoom call.

    After eighteen months of working at home, they were all looking forward to a touch of normality.

      1. The new normality is everlasting coronavirus. (Named as in the manner of storms…) It is up to us to end it if we want our lives back.

      1. It’s so stupid. Went to Morrisons as well as sainsburys. “Restaurnat” in Morrisons where they all sat without masks. The rest of the store – masked up, except for us of course. Total stupidity.

        1. I was in a restaurant yesterday and the majority were unmasked but a few came in masked and masked up before they left. Lidl yesterday was back to the state it was earlier this year i.e. mask central. I think I was the only unmasked person in there at that time but I didn’t get around the whole store. No challenge there or in a small shop I entered. I’ve heard that M&S have signs up requiring masks. FFS Panic Johnson makes a statement and the masses comply.

          2. We now have a good insight into how the Nasties and the Communists took over so easily.
            “Of course, that could never happen here.”

        2. Just walked down to the mobile post office – I wasn’t challenged this time for not wearing a mask even though it’s a different lady on Thursdays.

          The other people waiting out in the cold behind the van were all masked up.

  61. Not up to much today – so I’ll wish you a pleasant – if snowy – afternoon and hope to log in tomorrow.

      1. I feel in need of a stiff drink.
        Went into town earlier….most people wearing masks.

        I entered a shop and was told to wear a mask…”no thanks”, I replied, ” it will ruin my make-up!”

          3. If this nonsense goes on much longer, we’ll all be bloody extinct! Which is what I suspect is what the swines want.

          5. Go to the customer service counter in Sainsbury’s and ask for an exempt lanyard. We both have them and Asda etc acknowledge them.

          6. No need to. I printed one off when this all began and showed it sometimes but then just said “I’m exempt” and carried on walking.

          7. I’m certainly getting my money’s worth out of my lanyard.
            Naively, I thought I would be lucky to get a month’s worth of use out of it – back in June 2020.

          8. I was half heartedly asked at the farm shop.
            Then left alone to shop normally.
            A bus that passed me yesterday had a good 70% unmasked passengers.

    3. I must buy some, I haven’t had a sherry for yonks.
      Years ago one of my Uncles was a rep for Sandeman, we always had some in the drinks cupboard.
      I have a litre of Sloe vodka on the go, I must venture out get some Gin to go with the damsons. And the rest of the sloes I have.

        1. So you’re saying, Peter, (© Cathy Newman) that Plum is Batman The Lone Ranger Zorro a bank robber?

        2. So you’re saying, Peter, (© Cathy Newman) that Plum is Batman The Lone Ranger Zorro a bank robber?

    1. What happened to testing over the medium to long term? Thrown out with the bathwater and people have died or been damaged.
      It isn’t only AZ with a clotting problem, my neighbour had a stroke after each Pfizer jab but survived. Last week he took his wife to their surgery for her get the ‘booster’, when he walked in with his wife the nurse who was doing the deed turned to my neighbour and told him that she wouldn’t jab him again as she didn’t want to be responsible for him having another stroke. In fact, he wasn’t there to have a jab, just delivering his wife. Sensibly, he has decided not to go near a jab again.

    2. …. “with only 426 cases in the UK” ….
      The suspicion is growing at Allan Towers that the number could possibly be at least 427.

      1. When I was talking to a fellow dog walker this morning, someone else joined us. He announced he’d just recovered from a heart attack and the other dog walker expressed surprise. I was in a hurry, so I didn’t get a chance to ask, but I wouldn’t mind betting that the heart attack victim had been jabbed,

  65. The great nudge. Spiked. 2 December 2021.

    Nudging grew out of research into behavioural economics, and was popularised in Cass Sunstein and Richard Thaler’s 2008 book, Nudge. It now has widespread public support and has influenced everything from health warnings for cigarettes to calorie counts for fast food. Yet nudging also has an authoritarian edge, employing techniques and technologies that the Gestapo or NKVD could only dream about to promote the ‘right behaviour’.

    Tech firms, both in the US and China, already use messaging nudges to ‘control behaviours’. They use their power to purge their platforms of the wrong messages, as both Facebook and Twitter did when they censored the New York Post’s pre-election story about President Biden’s dissolute son, Hunter. Meanwhile, these same firms blocked the account of Donald Trump, Biden’s admittedly awful predecessor, on the grounds that he was fostering ‘violence’ – and they did so while tolerating open calls for mayhem and killing from leftists and foreign governments.

    A must read for all Nottlers and their ilk!

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/12/02/the-great-nudge/

    1. Lots of people like doing as they’re told. For them, thinking is an annoyance and complicated so they abrogate responsibility to the state.

  69. Delayed on the way home, so dropped in to local brown bar. London Pride! Blowing the froth of the second…

    1. One of my favs, i worked in a school near to the brewery on the Thames. The aroma drove me to the local at lunch time.
      The ESB is a bit strong.
      Here’s a story about the school caretaker and his mates.
      He was an Ozie and told me about his mate who came over from Melbourne arrived at LHR when it was raining (shorts and Tee shirt and thongs, aka flip flops) not too warm either. He Moaned about the pommy weather, the traffic on the roads, how long it took to get to Chiswick from LHR. You name it, he moaned. Later that evening they suggested a group of mates should go to the local pub. After he had been moaning about pommy TV off they went. Then he started moaning about pommy p*ss meaning the beer. So they bought a bottle of barley wine poured it into a pint glass and topped it up with ESB. After two of those, they had to carry him back to the the caretakers flat. He didn’t moan about anything else the whole time he stayed. 🍻🍺 cheers Obs.

    3. A good brew but it needs to be sold in some quantity otherwise it goes off too easily.

      You know what you need to do!

    1. Vee haff Vayz und meenze to over rhule opionz.

      Due to very little to nil reported adverse reactions I would suggest that the chances of all ‘hierarchical’ public figures having been jab is pretty remote. In comparison to the now thousands of members of the public who have had at least some slight adverse reactions and as far as even many even dying as a result. One rule for them eh. And now they are talking about two ‘boosters’.

      1. RE, they really do believe we are all stupid. We’re not but they are partly correct, evidenced by the return to masking in my area. Appears from what Nottlers are reporting the re-masking has a regional feel to it.

    2. One Twitter feed reporting this brought forth a couple of obvious comments along the lines of: “If the infections continue to rise who will they blame.”

      Evidence from countries with a higher “vaccination” rate e.g. Israel, Gibraltar and the UK indicates that the people proposing this measure will have a problem requiring an explanation a month or so down the line. Initially they’ll lie but if their plan does go tits-up the truth will out.

  72. Heads up.

    A bit late for this Christmas and i know i shouldn’t be posting this but i’m doing it anyway.

    Ashesthandust AKA Katy is Portrait artist and will be supporting herself in this manner. Any Nottler with a bit of cash to spare it would make a nice Anniversary present or Christmas present for next year.

    Contact via an old post of Katy or through Hertslass.

    Katy did one of my little dog and i’m pleased as punch with it.

    Please don’t feel pressured. Just ignore me. :@)

  73. HAPPY HOUR – book review. The Chimp Paradox
    Whenever the chimp perceives a threat he will decide to fight, flight or freeze. The chimp can hijack you and is responsible for often irrational or destructive emotions. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3d9914706f096a7f7f2192010eb0a55311b32b79af039a3f92e9933c62fa062d.png
    The Chimp Paradox – Prof. Steven Peters uses a simple analogy to help you take control of your emotions and act in your own, best interest, whether it’s in making decisions, comunicating with others, or your health and happiness.

    2. He may decide to flee but not to “flight”, Plum. Chimpanzees are not birds (although I believe at least one flew into space)!

      Lol.

      2. It is a diversity hospital. The nurse is female and black; the patient appears to be sitting in a wheelchair.

    4. Let me be in charge of injecting the bar steward, I know exactly what to give and how much.

  75. Being a brave little soldier I have been to Asda. I would say 70% customers unmasked- ditto staff. When I called the cab the recorded message said to be advised that masks were required in the cab; I said I was exempt, no worries was the reply. When the cab arrived, the driver wasn’t masked either.
    I am beginning to think that, maybe, the worm has turned. Gawd, I hope so!

        1. …Long, slim, slimy ones.
          Short, fat, fuzzy ones,
          Gooey, gooey, gooey, gooey worms.
          When the short fat fuzzy ones stick between your teeth
          The juice goes sch, sch, sch.

  77. If you’ve had Covid you’re vulnerable
    If you’ve been jabbed you’re vulnerable, once, twice, three or more times, it doesn’t matter.
    You can pass it on, even if you have zero symptoms.
    Time to let it rip and let nature decide.

  78. Right Wing Extremism punished. That will put a stop to it.

    “During Imrie’s sentencing at the High Court in Glasgow, Lord Mulholland told him he was “spreading hate” and encouraging others to take “terrorist action” that he had pretended to have taken himself.
    “Your conduct was despicable. You have no understanding or self-awareness of the hatred that you tried to spread,” the judge said.
    “Many Muslims died fighting for the alliance in World War Two for the freedoms that you enjoyed.”

    Thing is, Lord Mulholland, muslims fought for the Reich as well as the Allies. Just saying. Funny thing too. Judges are giving shorter sentences for rape, and causing death by dangerous driving. Are judges getting instructions from somewhere?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-59501966

    1. I wonder what his Lordship would have to say about the abuse from Muslims to Jews in Oxford St this week. Probably say the young Jewish folk provoked them by dancing for Hannuka.

      A lot of Judges are Common Purpose now.

      1. Possibly the Right Honourable Lord Mulholland, Senator of the College of Justice, was a bit confused about who our allies were?

        1. He was also the Lord Advocate charged in the malicious prosecution case against Charles Green, earlier this year. A bit of a lad!

  79. Food news. A two rib, rib of beef from Piper’s Farm aged 30 days is now aging in my fridge. I will wait until it is almost black. Probably be ready for Christmas Lunch.

    Comparing the price with other suppliers PF grass fed beef comes out top.

    Going to give Turkey a swerve.

      2. Funny you should mention that. Tonight supper is homemade Moussaka and Greek salad.

        I can already hear the Bazouki.

          1. When i worked in a Taverna i had to lead the Zorba on a Friday and Saturday night. Everyone was pissed.

            I wouldn’t recommend Greek wine to anyone.

          5. Strangely back in the late seventies there was a fish restaurant in Victoria called The Seafresh and run by Greeks. It was just off Vauxhall Bridge Road.

            It was popular with London cabbies (a good sign) whose black cabs lined up in the streets outside. I found that the chilled Greek white wine otherwise known as Retsina was a great accompaniment to fish and chips. We reckoned it helped cut through the grease and aided digestion.

          6. Porto Carras wines are pretty good. Vineyards owned by the Carras family of shipping fame, in the Halkidiki region. Reds and whites – no resin!!

  80. Gawd almighty, these bastards are still using the 28 day measure.
    I hope every single one gets a dreadful disease and because of the Covid restrictions they have put in place that they’re treated too late to be cured.
    I hate them with a passion.

  82. The Boxing Day film looks really special. (/sarc)
    I wonder if the negative could be produced in any African country with similar celebrations by their national broadcaster.
    No?
    Thought not

      1. We have a ton of stuff lined up for the hols. Mostly online because you can bet your bottom $ there will nothing but pc crap on the telly.

        1. 9pm on the dot I retire to the louse trap and watch an episode of a boxed set. I’m on Rumpole of the Bailey at the moment. Next in line is The Forsythe Saga. The cat settles down on the other pillow

          2. Never read the books but I do like the humour that’s in the TV series and his hobby of taking the pish out of the judiciary without them realising it

          3. The books are well worth a read Alec. My sister in law is a barrister so the humour hits close to home;-)

          1. Yes, I did see that Mrs. Brown’s boys is on….not that I have ever watched it or ever plan to but it’s about the level of the rubbish these days.

    1. Sorry all you Farage and Trump people but can’t resist….

      “Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee.”

      1. “Just think, if I was Bill Clinton you would be blowing”
        “True, but if I was Biden you would be screwed”

  85. Btl comment on the DT article ‘Too many people have a vested interest in this permanent lockdown’:-

    ‘Gavin Sutcliffe

    21 HRS AGO

    Finally here is the truth laid bare. I’ve been horrified at the utter unwillingness on the part of my own GP surgery to open up (in any way) to face to face appointments. Forcing good folk to waste A&E time with their medical concerns. And then the NHS have the audacity to claim they’re “overrun”. Sick of my kids’ school teachers failing to do their damn jobs. Sick of almost any customer service entity giving me the telephone assistance any reasonable person would expect – and hiding behind Covid instead. Sick of how mediocrity, idleness, ignorance and sheer stupidity seem to now cloak behind “Covid precautions” as an excuse to fail to deliver on a paid job. Or deliver on the tax-funded services most of us pay through the nose for. I’ve HAD ENOUGH OF THIS RUBBISH. Enough of pandering to the self-entitled cretins that now run the machinations of the UK.’

    1. I can’t complain about the service OH has received from our GP surgery, and I don’t have any kids at school; but as for the rest I certainly have HAD ENOUGH OF THIS RUBBISH.

  86. Serious question…does anyone know how the body rids itself of microscopic foreign particles?
    A German doctor published some photos of blood of a recently jabbed patient under a microscope that appeared to have tiny metallic fragments in it, and similar fragments were observed in the Moderna vaccines. The Pfizer ones are said to use graphene oxide as the shell of the nano particles, which presumably stays in the body.
    What happens to such foreign objects?

    1. I think I saw those photos of something that looked like nano particles shaped like tiny circuits. Very sinister. And Merkel wants everyone to submit to compulsory doses of this rubbish.

      1. I take the tiny circuits with a pinch of salt at the moment, because I haven’t seen them verified. The doctors who photographed the metallic fragments were verified by at least two other investigation teams.

      2. I would have thought MI5 had you microchipped years ago after all the demos and the like. I don’t think you need to be upgraded if the old one is still working. Just get the vet to give you the once over the next time the cat or dog needs a check up. 😆😆😆

    2. You could try NAC, (N-Acetyl Cysteine) – it must be effective because it is now available only on prescription in the US! – no longer over-the-counter, having been available for decades as a food supplement; Dandelion leaf tea (cleanses the system); white pine needle tea (contains suramin). There are people online like Dmitry Kats (I have no idea if he is a charlatan or not) https://niacincurescovid.com/ – although the emphasis is on covid he seems to help the vaccine injured as well.

      Edit: I realise you are asking for a possible friend…. I know you intend to avoid it as much as I do.

      1. Thanks. Actually I am just curious to know the mechanism by which the body gets rid of such foreign particles.
        The fibres/metallic particles from the Moderna jab were bigger than blood cells iirc, so they are perhaps different from the graphene nanoparticles.

    3. It depends on the foreign object and where it is in the body. If they are particles in the blood then I believe the liver is the organ largely responsible for filtration and expulsion.

      1. Could the liver cope with a plastic or metallic fibre that is about twenty to thirty times as long as a blood cell, I wonder? Common sense suggests that this is probably not the first time such things have been in vaccines. The manufacturers don’t seem to be very careful.

      1. I saw that video. He was hypothesising, from his position of considerable knowledge. Nothing has been proven with tests yet.
        Incidentally, the German woman who presented that video made a follow-up one after she had researched Noack a bit, and she says he was obviously very clever, and had spent his whole life fighting against the establishment.
        I take the information seriously, as a possibility.
        Also, he didn’t explain how the graphene oxide breaks up – according to the patent lawyer, it is listed as being the material that forms the shell of nano-particles that carry the unstable mRNA. If that is the case, clearly it would have to break up to release this material – but how? what’s the trigger? and what kind of particles does it break into?
        Where are the safety tests that show it’s safe to inject graphene oxide particles into people?
        And that comes back to my original question – how does the body rid itself of foreign particles?

  87. Tee hee, Mark Steyn just read my message out on his show. See if you can guess which comment it was…;-))

    1. Javid/Truss/some other shill won’t lose the election. “Labour would be Worse” will be trotted out, as we all know.

      3. Me too, LotL, me too. Three a day now…. it is a real roller coaster from the moment I wake uo.

  89. Good night all.

    Vegan samosas & veggie fritters. Thick yoghurt.
    A custard tart with gorgeous raspberries.

    1. You should ring the changes and try a gorgeous tart with custard and raspberries. The yoghurt should follow…

    2. You should ring the changes and try a gorgeous tart with custard and raspberries. The yoghurt should follow…

      1. I read that somewhere too. However what I was doing was contrasting two reports on the BBC website yesterday. No one working for the BBC was joining these up.

      2. 37,000 asylum claims this year. That figure does not take into account all those who have disappeared into the black economy.

  91. A journo and a surgeon give GPs a bit of a kicking.

    Throwing money at GPs won’t make them any more productive

    Well-heeled family doctors have precious little incentive to up their hours

    PATRICK O’FLYNN

    Labour’s Nye Bevan came up with a brutally effective method to deal with doctors who opposed the setting up of the NHS in 1948, famously declaring: “I stuffed their mouths with gold.”

    More than 70 years later, it seems that turning on the money tap is still regarded as the best way to get more output from the medical profession, with NHS chief executive Amanda Pritchard setting out an upgraded payment schedule for general practitioners participating in the Covid booster programme.

    GPs from now on will get £15 for every jab administered to a patient Monday to Friday – up from £12.58. Enhanced payments of £20 for a Saturday jab and £30 for jabs administered to housebound patients in their own homes are also on the way.

    “We will ensure that they are properly rewarded for their efforts, particularly when they take time to visit vulnerable housebound patients who can’t travel to vaccination sites,” said Ms Pritchard.

    Her decision to reach for a carrot rather than a stick comes as GPs across the country have faced a growing outcry from some patients about a collapse in the availability of face-to-face appointments, with claims of a knock-on impact being felt by already-overloaded hospital casualty departments.

    Anyone hoping to hear a Government minister take a sterner line with family doctors and simply demand they restore pre-Covid working patterns and service levels should probably brace themselves for a very long wait.

    Because the truth of it is that politicians have simply lost the inclination and maybe even the ability to take on GPs in the court of public opinion. A quick look at public attitudes towards the two groups gives a clue as to why.

    According to the 2021 Ipsos Mori “veracity index”, 94 per cent of us would generally trust a doctor to tell us the truth. That compares to just 31 per cent who say the same of Government ministers. Only estate agents, advertising executives and “social media influencers” rank lower than politicians, while only local pharmacists and nurses rank above doctors.

    The sanctification of the NHS and pretty much everyone who works in it and the parallel denigration of politicians, much of it heaped upon themselves it has to be said, has made it very much harder for any government to build up a head of steam for improving healthcare productivity. Ministers are simply no match for medics and their fearsomely well organised professional associations.

    It’s not that GPs are lazy – given our ageing population and medical advances coming up with more viable treatments for more complaints each year, the volume of work is on a steep upward curve.

    Yet there are plenty of reasons to believe that better productivity could be attained via a more rigorous approach to management.

    For a start, we have somehow reached a situation where 90 per cent of the nearly four in ten GPs who are salaried, rather than contractors, are working part-time.

    That’s an awfully large number of expensive medical training places leading only to part-time output. And contrary to claims that GPs need to be paid more, it could be a sign that pay is now at such a high level that more and more doctors can afford to reduce their working days for lifestyle reasons.

    Last year the average income for GPs in England topped £100,000, so clearly it is now possible for many family doctors to reduce their hours worked and still enjoy an affluent standard of living. It is absolutely right that doctors should expect to be well paid given their immense expertise and life-saving skills. But there must also be a case for rationing the availability of part-time posts.

    Another aspect of the GP shortage affecting patients is the sky-rocketing early retirement rate in the profession, which has more than trebled from 401 in 2007/8 to 1,358 in 2020/21. Of course, some medical bodies will tell you that this is largely due to excessive workloads. Prof Martin Marshall, the chair of the Royal College of GPs, told the Guardian earlier this year: “These figures reflect what we are hearing from our members in general practice. The intense workload and workforce pressures that GPs and our teams have been working under…are taking their toll.”

    Yet the BMA acknowledges that much of the early retirement is motivated by the understandable desire of GPs not to exceed the pension pot lifetime allowance of a little over a million pounds (£1,073,100 to be precise) after which extra tax penalties kick in.

    “Repeated surveys from the BMA have demonstrated that over half of doctors plan to retire before the age of 60, with the majority citing pensions taxation as their primary reason,” according to BMA pensions committee chair Dr Vishal Sharma. So good and experienced GPs are being needlessly lost years early because of a combination of a generous gold-plated pension scheme on the one hand and an ungenerous tax regime on the other.

    So long as we, the great British public, continue to see doctors as heroes and politicians as villains we are unlikely to break the unhealthy stranglehold that the medical trade unions exert over the healthcare system.

    Ministers whose motives on healthcare are widely doubted will always be tempted to, in effect, bribe GPs to do jobs they are already being paid for. Stuffing mouths with gold can clearly get things done. But it is a very expensive way to go on.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/01/throwing-money-gps-wont-make-productive/
    _______________________________________________________________________

    Sajid Javid cannot afford to cut GPs’ workload

    A short-term effort to increase booster jabs risks becoming a long-term disaster for patients

    J MEIRION THOMAS

    Sajid Javid, the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, is right to highlight the importance of the booster jab programme. But accelerating this rollout by reducing GPs’ other workload, lessening the pressure to hold more in-person consultations, or even offering them financial inducements to give out more vaccinations, would be bad for patients and for society.

    That won’t have stopped it being music to the ears of Dr Farah Jameel, the newly appointed chair of the British Medical Association’s GP committee, because you can be sure that any reduction in workload will never be reversed and will simply become the new norm for future negotiations.

    In October, Mr Javid announced a £250 million boost for GP practices to improve patient care. There were some reasonable conditions attached, for example: GPs who refused to provide more face-to face appointments were to be named and the highest earning GPs would be asked to declare their income.

    The BMA dubbed it a “bully’s charter” and, despite government concessions, announced an indicative ballot on industrial action, the result of which is expected soon. At the time, the chair of the BMA’s GP committee was Dr Richard Vautrey, considered a hard-liner but who resigned when the committee demanded an even tougher stand against the Government. Dr Jameel was rapidly elected.

    Previously, Dr Jameel has said that GPs should be paid extra for performing what she regards as non-core work. The examples she gave were doing a simple lung function test (spirometry), which takes seconds, and taking out stitches, which is usually done by the practice nurse. These are tasks that most GPs would regard as a routine part of the job. The already militant BMA is getting more inflexible.

    Rolling out booster jabs is, of course, important, but anything that threatens to restrict GP services further is a dangerous policy to follow. What about the cancer backlog? Only this week it was estimated by the National Audit Office that three quarters of a million cancer referrals had been missed during the pandemic. Diagnosing cancer early is essential to improving survival and any delay will inevitably result in more advanced disease and lower cure rates.

    Many of the most vulnerable have, mercifully, already had their third jab. It seems especially perverse to suggest that it is better for GPs to spend their time giving boosters to younger, healthier cohorts than seeing patients who may be in desperate need.

    It is not entirely clear that we even need GPs to give out jabs at all. After December 2020, when the country was put on a vaccination “war footing”, clinics were set up in pharmacies, church halls, council buildings and even car parks, manned by volunteers, especially nurses and medical students. Almost 12,000 retired doctors were given temporary registration by the General Medical Council. Surely such an arrangement could be repeated.

    Meanwhile, A&E departments are overwhelmed by patients desperate for urgent care, often because they cannot see a GP. Why? Writing this off as simply being down to the pandemic, as many would have us do, ignores far deeper issues, the worst of which is the way that part-time working has become endemic within general practice. This is the fundamental problem afflicting primary care and its corrosive, fragmenting effect on patients is never mentioned by the BMA, the Royal College of GPs or, indeed, by government ministers.

    By my estimate, as many as 70 or 80 per cent of GPs are working part-time. If part-timers temporarily worked a few more sessions, possibly paid for from Javid’s £250 million, then the post-Covid problem of access to GPs would be solved. Why, in the interests of public health, have the GP representatives not suggested this?

    We face two converging problems: the need for mass vaccination, and the urgency of identifying missed cancers and other conditions. One of these problems cannot be sacrificed to solve the other. We must succeed with both. Sadly, the inability or unwillingness of GPs to countenance change is making failure more likely.

    J Meirion Thomas is a consultant surgeon

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/02/sajid-javid-cannot-afford-cut-gps-workload/

    1. There is an easy fix to the GPs not doing their job so properly. Pay them on the number of patients they see, not those on their lists.

  92. Evening, all. The fundamental difference between risk and hazard is one which has escaped the EU and, as a consequence of slavish adherence to their way of doing things, us as well. We used to manage the risk of hazardous substances, but the EU saw hazard and reacted “ban it”. Hence we lost many useful preparations and chemicals.

          1. I’m just trying to numb the brain after reading the day’s news. It takes a bigger glass each week it seems..

        1. I have been watching a programme about Plimoth Plantation which was one of the first settlements in New England and am in the midst of listening to a talk about history on You Tube.

          2. I am OK but not really. Can’t talk about things. Seeking solace in music- as I often do and have done.

          4. Thanks Mola…it’s a tough one. If I can just say that I have been in tears much of the time for the last few days and am still tonight.
            I rely on the old adage… life’s a bitch. Ain’t it just.
            Goodnight my friend.

          5. Don’t read the article in that young child that was murdered, that is enough to reduce anyone to tears.

            Just done that!

          6. Too late- have seen enough of that- heartbreaking. Never mind prison…shoot the bastards who killed that little lad!

  98. Lewis Hamilton calls for Saudi Arabia’s ‘pretty terrifying’ LGBT laws to be changed

    The Mercedes driver will wear a helmet sporting rainbow and coloured chevrons in support of the LGBTQ+ community.

    Ooh. A stripey helmet. Steady on Lewis. Next thing you’ll be putting your money where your mouth is and refusing to race in the country. “Still I Rise” is your motto. Take the actions befitting a knight of the realm and put your beliefs above your desire for more baubles. Now that might earn you my respect.

  99. For those of you who listen to podcasts, here are two you might like.
    “Clear and vivid” with Alan Alda and “Sleep with me” by a bloke I don’t know.
    The first is good for some entertaining chat, the second is good if you need help falling asleep. (Boring voice rambling on about nothing :)) I’m about to tune in now 🙂

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