Tuesday 11 May: If Labour cannot decide what it stands for, it should dissolve as a party

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  1. Situation on Italian island of Lampedusa ‘explosive’ after 2,000 migrants arrive in 24 hours. 11 May 2021.

    The situation on the tiny Mediterranean island of Lampedusa is “explosive” after more than 2,000 migrants landed in just 24 hours, as smugglers switch away from rubber dinghies in favour of steel-hulled fishing boats that can carry hundreds of asylum seekers.

    Morning everyone. Here is the problem! It is not that they are Black or Muslim or African but that there is no end to them. No matter how many we take in there will always be more! Inevitably and eventually the system, the UK, Europe itself, will collapse!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/10/situation-italian-island-lampedusa-explosive-2000-migrants-arrive/

    1. Whenever I end up in a discussion about this (I try to avoid them) I ask the pro open borders buffoons:
      How many will you take? 50 thousand, 500 thousand, 5 mn, 50 mn, 500 mn, 5,000 mn? Because that’s how many people there are who would gladly take your place.”

      1. Fortunately, the UK PTB ignore the problem altogether. It is the grandchildren of the BPAPM and his gang of brown-nosers who will reap th “benefit”.

        1. The division being sown and nurtured may well grow faster than they think.

        2. Morning all.

          I’m not sure it will take that long Bill. I’m sorry to say I feel quite pessimistic for my grandchildren already although I don’t say it to them. And what with the mask wearing and injections for them, well, who can complain when females are forced to wear the burqa. The public has been only too willing to mask up.

    3. I have always pointed out that we can have the welfare state we have OR we can have unlimited immigration. We cannot have both.

    1. If Jeremy Vine thinks that it is a good idea for Tony Blair to return to politics, who are we to disagree?

      1. mng janet, Vine / think? if the country believes Blair should be at the business end of a firing squad, then who are we, apart from Vine, to disagree

      2. 332622+ up ticks,
        Morning J,
        Had me, o to split second shouting at the radio.

      3. Vine, much like Moron, Semi, #OwenJonesIsAWankerDay, Ghastly Alibaba Brown and co is just another clickbait-chasing churnalist. None of them are adverse to giving a comment that is intended to rile the viewer/reader.

        Surprisingly, for such ‘intelligent’ folks, they still haven’t correlated plunging viewer/reader numbers with their unintelligent muck-raking antics.

    2. Apparently all the rich Labour supporters – the only people who can afford socialism – are fleeing to the leafy counties and still voting for the policies that caused them to flee in the first place.

      1. 332622+ up ticks,
        Morning Anne,
        Trouble being of course a multitude of tory (ino) lib/dems are already there, the hard core supporter / voters doing the same thing.

        NONE have reached the wall yet ( not enough dead,raped,abused injured as of yet)

        The wall being the one at their backs.

    3. “Is Tony Blair the answer to Labour’s woes?”
      Well he’s done more than most to try to get the hairdressing industry back on its feet. Took one for the team there.

      1. Talking of which, I had my second haircut today.
        My hairdresser said that she was enjoying getting round to the second session, as this time she could actually trim and shape her customers’ hair, rather lop off the worst.

        1. I’m v.excited. I have an appointment next Tues. I normally have short hair but it has been long and straggly for months.

  7. Littlejohn on good form with some novel insults…

    RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: Oi Angie, pass the Duchy from the left-hand side… Max Headroom obviously decided his deputy should carry the can for Labour’s humiliation
    By RICHARD LITTLEJOHN FOR THE DAILY MAIL

    PUBLISHED: 22:47, 10 May 2021 | UPDATED: 23:03, 10 May 2021

    Breaking news: Woman you’ve never heard of is reshuffled out of a job you didn’t know she had, then promoted into another job you didn’t realise existed.

    That appears to be the sum of the story obsessing the Boys In The Bubble yesterday in the wake of last week’s elections.

    Aside from the tiresome Wee Burney circus north of the border, of course.

    Max Headroom obviously decided that his deputy, a bovver-booted teenybopper called Angela Rayner, should carry the can for Labour’s humiliation.

    But since he couldn’t sack her altogether because his number two is directly elected by the membership, he stripped her of her role as party chairman and campaign co-ordinator.

    When Rayner’s supporters on the Left kicked off in anger, he ‘promoted’ her to the exalted position of Shadow Chancellor of The Duchy of Lancaster. The handful of people who may vaguely have heard of the Duchy of Lancaster probably think it’s something to do with Prince Charles’s organic food range.

    Maybe Angie Baby has been put in charge of the biscuits for Shadow Cabinet meetings.

    Pass the Duchy from the left- hand side!

    Frankly, who cares what happens to Rayner, a coarse class-warrior best known, if at all, for shouting ‘scum’ at the Tories in the Commons and taking the knee alongside Starmer in supplication to the Black Lives Matter mob.

    That she is considered to be indispensable by Labour’s dominant Leftist faction tells you all you need to know about the quality of the talent in Her Majesty’s Official Opposition.

    Looking down the gallery of nonentities caught up in the reshuffle, the only one I recognised was Nick Brown, an old trades union bruiser I used to see propping up the bar at conferences. That was back when Labour still mattered, before the intolerant metro-wokerati turned it into an irrelevant, identity obsessed student protest movement which holds the decent people it pretends to represent in utter contempt.

    Naturally, there have been recriminations after last week’s dismal performance, but I simply fail to understand why so much airtime and newsprint has been devoted to this self-indulgent navel gazing.

    In what sane universe is a rearrangement of the deckchairs by the leader of a party which has just hit an iceberg, and is holed below the waterline, considered by radio and TV news editors to be the most important thing that has happened in the world all weekend?

    At least Wee Burney is trying to precipitate a genuine constitutional crisis, though to be honest most of us — in England, at least — are heartily sick of the sight and sound of her.

    Quite why the broadcasters feel they must subject those of us outside Scotland to every cough and spit from this ghastly Toytown monomaniac is beyond me.

    From what I can gather, outside of the SNP ultras and their media muppets, nobody in Scotland has any great appetite for another divisive indyref slanging match, either.

    Can’t we just enjoy a period of silence from the political class? Since Covid reared its ugly head 15 months ago, we’ve had politicians in our faces 24/7.

    Now that the pandemic is effectively over, can’t they just give it a rest for five minutes.

    The country’s opening up, people are going back to their offices, we’ll soon be free to cast off our masks and sit inside pubs and restaurants, and travel abroad, as the last restrictions are lifted in time for the summer holidays.

    So why not just let us get on and enjoy it?

    Fat chance. They’re already gearing up for a by-election in Batley and Spen, following the election of Tracy Brabin as West Yorkshire mayor. (Those brownies she was handing out obviously did the trick.)

    And Boris is planning to repeal the Fixed-term Parliaments Act, so he can capitalise on his recent spectacular success and call an early General Election in 2023.

    As Brenda from Bristol might say: ‘Not another one!’

    That means that from the beginning of next year, the parties will be on a war footing.

    Since the Scottish independence referendum in 2014, there’s been no escape. We’ve had the Brexit vote, three General Elections and numerous local elections.

    It wouldn’t be so bad if the politicians accepted the outcomes. But we had to suffer three years of Remainers trying every dirty trick in the book to overturn the Brexit vote. In Scotland, the SNP has never accepted the 55-45 ‘once in a generation’ result in favour of staying in the UK.

    Wee Burney is again cranking up confrontation designed to force a second referendum.

    On top of that, just as we are about to cry freedom from Covid, and are finally preparing to escape the daily haranguing from ministers and scientists, we can look forward to another General Election just over the horizon.

    The depressing prospect of wall-to-wall politics stretches out in front of us, with no end in sight.

    So, for now, it shouldn’t be too much to ask for a bit of a rest from the political class, at least until Parliament resumes properly after the summer recess.

    If they must pick the fluff out of the navel of a woman you’ve never heard of being moved to a job you didn’t know existed, let them do it in front of somebody who actually gives a damn.
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    Ever since he fitted a new front door a fortnight ago, Peter Finnon, from Sunderland, gets an unwanted 5am alarm call every day.

    A seagull has taken a shine to the door and pecks away at the letterbox, waking Peter, his wife Rachael and two young children.

    It reminded me of staying in a seafront hotel in gale-lashed Blackpool back in the 1980s. A colleague came down to breakfast looking frazzled, complaining that he hadn’t slept a wink all night.

    He’d gone to bed after the bar closed, only to be woken by a tap-tap-tapping on the window.

    He looked out to see an 8ft-tall yellow duck staring back at him. The following morning, he opened the curtains to discover the duck still there. It was one of the town’s famous illuminations which had been blown off a gantry by the high winds and landed on his balcony, where it was buffeted back and forth against his window.

    Over breakfast, he recounted ringing the night porter at about 2am. The conversation went something like this . . .

    ‘Hello? There’s a giant duck trying to get into my bedroom.’

    ‘Of course there is, sir.’

    ‘No, I’m serious. There really is a big yellow duck banging on my window.’

    ‘Have we been drinking, sir?’

    ‘Er . . .’

    ‘Goodnight, sir.’
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    Even though I didn’t vote last week, it wouldn’t have made much difference. We Londoners are lumbered with Genghis Khan as mayor for another three years. Conservative Shaun Bailey ran him closer than expected, though.

    Perhaps if the Tories (especially Boris) had put more effort into London, Khan could have been toppled. Genghis says he is prepared to ‘build bridges’ to heal divisions. I wouldn’t hold your breath. He hasn’t even been able to fix Hammersmith Bridge.

    He’s also launching a £7 million ‘Let’s Do London’ campaign to attract holidaymakers to shops, theatres and galleries. The mayor might have his work cut out. Khan’s London was on full display in Selfridges, in Oxford Street, at the weekend. A man was stabbed in a fight between two gangs.

    Under Khan, the streets are more dangerous and London is in the grip of a knife crime epidemic. A full-scale gang fight in Selfridges isn’t the ideal advert for encouraging tourists. Never mind ‘Let’s Do London’. He should adapt the famous Neapolitan slogan:

    See London and Die.

    Crazy golf, crazy guy

    During his 27-year marriage, Microsoft boss Bill Gates, currently in the throes of divorce from his wife Melinda, was allowed one weekend a year with an old flame. He says they spent their time ‘playing putt-putt’ — what the Americans call crazy golf — and ‘discussing biotechnology’.

    That last phrase could soon enter the lexicon of love.

    Private Eye magazine adopted ‘Discussing Uganda’ as a euphemism for extra-curricular rumpy-pumpy after a female journalist who disappeared upstairs with an African diplomat at an embassy drinks reception claimed later that they had been ‘discussing Ugandan affairs’.

    This may now have to be updated for the internet age. I suppose a discussion about biotechnology is out of the question.

    1. From relatives in the USA, there is much more being discussed there about Mr Gates and his activities than is being reported in Britain.

      Whether that’s anything to do with the “grants” that he has given to various newspapers we wouldn’t know.

    2. London is now akin to Port Said, or Mogadishu, or any foreign hell-hole. The capital of white, Christian, England it most certainly is NOT.

  8. A good morning from a dull, dry and slightly chilly at 4°C Derbyshire.

  9. the usual. Shirley Page, Jane Jewkes and Lois Mears having their mid month utopian mental breakdown :

    SIR – Labour has lost its raison d’être. This was to advance the interests of a social stratum called Labour, which was disadvantaged socially and economically with respect to the rest of society.

    It was coupled with a dogma, derived from the 19th-century origins of socialism, that the economic interests of Labour were somehow different from the “capitalist class”. That has led the party to undervalue the importance of entrepreneurialism throughout its history. This dogma was expressed in the party’s former Clause Four, replaced in 1995.

    Now that barriers to opportunity, quality of life and welfare, and the previous huge gulf in income, have been removed or mitigated, the concept of Labour as a distinct social stratum no longer exists.

    Of course, groups that still suffer disadvantages of some sort require political attention, and differences in income remain, but they no longer constitute a distinct social group.

    If Labour is to survive, it has to rethink its role completely. The alternative, which happened to other parties (the Whigs, Gladstonian Liberals), is to dissolve and morph into another grouping.

    Anthony Pick
    Newbury, Berkshire

    SIR – Part of the Labour Party is blaming the Corbyn legacy for its rejection on Thursday. Sir Keir Starmer was for three years a prominent member of the Corbyn team.

    By his presence on the front bench he gave an endorsement of the Corbyn programme, from the nasty to the catastrophic.

    Had the general election gone the other way, with a Labour government or a Corbyn-led coalition, he would now be implementing that manifesto.

    He and his allies might want to forget that history, but voters will not.

    Michael Hely
    Banham, Norfolk

    SIR – Before blaming Sir Keir Starmer for all of Labour’s woes, it is worth remembering that only two Labour leaders have been elected as prime minister in our Queen’s long reign.

    Bruce Cochrane
    Hornsea, East Yorkshire

    SIR – Any bridge player will know that simply rearranging the cards in a poor hand makes no difference. I suspect Sir Keir Starmer is not a card player.

    David Hanley
    Amwell, Hertfordshire

    SIR – There has been much comment on the achievements of the Conservatives in Red Wall areas, but less on the fall in the Conservative vote in the South East. The Conservatives even lost control of Tunbridge Wells.

    The fall appears to be a mix of dissatisfaction with local Tory-controlled councils and a general feeling that the party is taking the South East for granted.

    Boris Johnson should watch his back in the South.

    Barrie Bain
    Wadhurst, East Sussex

    Referendum fever

    SIR – After four years of Brexit and one year of a pandemic, both of which affected 70 million UK citizens, is the news agenda really now going to be dictated by possibly 50 per cent of five million Scots?

    It’s about time the BBC exercised some proportionality.

    Andrew Siddons
    Walsall, Staffordshire

    SIR – Nicola Sturgeon argues that her majority coalition of SNP and Greens justifies her demand for another independence referendum.

    Yet together the parties won just 49 per cent of votes. That is no mandate.

    Leonard Ross
    Sevenoaks, Kent

    SIR – Vernon Bogdanor (Comment, May 9) suggests that three Scottish border constituencies, which voted two to one against independence, might opt to stay British.

    This would have the effect of moving the border of Scotland further north. It had never occurred to me as a possibility, but of course that’s what happened in Northern Ireland in 1921.

    Whether Ms Sturgeon’s truncated country would find it easy to finance the seaborne defence of its part of our shared island is another matter. She could always appeal to the French for financial help – or throw open Scottish doors to massive Chinese investment as an isolated part of the Belt and Road Initiative. It would be easier to get investment that way than from the EU.

    Brian Milton
    London E2

    SIR – I am incensed by Ms Sturgeon’s claims of representing “all” Scots.

    Many loyal Scots do not live in Scotland, so do not have a vote there.

    We support Scotland, fly the Saltire when appropriate, and celebrate Burns Night and St Andrew’s Day. Our forbears are buried in Scottish soil.

    We are Scottish and have a right to say what happens to our country even though we do not reside there. How dare Ms Sturgeon think otherwise?

    Caroline Glover
    Petersfield, Hampshire

    Cancelled trains

    SIR – You report (May 8) that GWR and LNER have cancelled high-speed trains “over fear of cracks in carriages”, causing major disruption.

    Why were these not identified over the past 14 months of the pandemic? Many trains must have been out of service due to reduced timetables and readily available for maintenance.

    Or does it mean that no servicing has been carried out “due to Covid”?

    Ursula Starkie
    London SW8

    Standing with Britain

    SIR – There has never been a myth that Britain stood alone against the Nazis (report, May 7). The whole nation would join Vera Lynn singing: “The Empire, too; / We can depend on you.”

    Will Doran
    High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire

    Ghost of a chance

    SIR – On the subject of missing valuables (Letters, May 8), my father had an aunt who owned a house in Maisemore, Gloucestershire. Her family had always known they owned the house but could not find the deeds.

    The cottage had several ghosts, one of which would wake them during the night by standing at the foot of the bed and staring. Eventually, they thought to remove the floorboards where she stood – and discovered their deeds.

    Maggie Burridge
    Glastonbury, Somerset

    Dying at home

    SIR – You report (May 8) that there were 41,321 “extra” deaths at home from cancer during 2020 compared with the previous five-year average, probably caused by NHS staff prioritising Covid patients. My husband, John Jones, was one of them; he died at home in November in his 80th year, after a long battle
    with cancer.

    But that was exactly as he wanted. With the help of our wonderful local Blythe House Hospice, with district nurses and paid carers, with hospital equipment at hand and a bed downstairs, we were able to look after him with dignity and love to a degree almost impossible in the clinical atmosphere of a hospital.

    The pandemic has taught us many hard lessons, but surely one is that patients should be given a genuine choice of where to spend their final days, and that every effort should be made to respect their dying wishes.

    Edwina Currie Jones
    Whaley Bridge, Derbyshire

    Gender dysphoria

    SIR – When I was young I desperately wanted to be a boy. I was never a girly girl: I had glasses with thick lenses, greasy hair and bandy legs, and was the proverbial wallflower in all the dances in our neighbourhood. Being a boy seemed to be the only option, as I just didn’t feel like a girl.

    I am so grateful that in the 1940s there was no recognition of gender dysphoria (report, May 7), as I have had a wonderfully fulfilling life as a woman with a family, which I could never have achieved had I changed gender.

    How can young people today realise how special they are as they are, when they are persuaded that they should become someone they can never be?

    Lois Mears
    Cambridge

    Chinese underneath

    SIR – Like Richard Booth (Letters, May 7), my wife and I were depressed when we found that a new Bosch Tassimo coffee machine had been made in China. We had naively assumed it was made in either Germany or Britain.

    Chris King
    Woking, Surrey

    SIR – I thought I was buying British when I bought a Kenwood mixer. On its side were a British flag and the words “engineered and designed in Britain”. But underneath in tiny print it said “Made in China”.

    Jane Jewkes
    North Warnborough, Hampshire

    How pursuit of foxes spoilt The Pursuit of Love

    SIR – I was looking forward to The Pursuit of Love on television but after a few minutes had to give up because, first, the hairstyles were all wrong and, secondly, they were hunting foxes in midsummer with all the leaves on the trees. How can the BBC get things so wrong?

    Shirley Page
    Caxton, Cambridgeshire

    Left hanging on the line for a GP appointment

    SIR – It may well be that millions of people are pleased to use online appointments (Letters, May 7), but many elderly or vulnerable people cannot manage to do so.

    GPs themselves may also be prepared to see patients face to face, but the sad truth is that it has become a nightmare trying to arrange an appointment by telephone.

    One is usually expected to ring early morning and then face a long wait in a queue. All too often the result of the wait is to be told there are no longer any appointments and to ring again the following
    day.

    Nothing can be arranged for a future date and if things become serious, one is told to go to A&E.

    Dentists, hygienists and opticians may no longer be able to see as many patients per day, but they are much easier to contact and appointments can be made for future dates.

    Lauri Butcher
    Leicester

    SIR – I have no problem obtaining an appointment to visit my dentist, my optician, my audiologist, my barber or my chiropractor. This is not the case should I want to book to see my doctor.

    I cannot help feeling that this has something to do with the way the two groups are remunerated. The former cannot earn their living unless they actually see their patients or clients face to face.

    This is not the position for GPs. They do not have to treat or even see their patients to earn their living.

    Ronald Burton
    Chigwell, Essex

    1. “… they were hunting foxes in midsummer with all the leaves on the trees. How can the BBC get things so wrong?” Easy, peasy; they are urbanites with no knowledge of the countryside, rural life, or indeed, history (re the hairstyles). I suspect they had them hunting on a Sunday as well.

  10. Russia’s infamous GRU spy unit is suspected of being behind the bizarre sonic attacks on U.S. personnel from Havana to Syria – and even on the White House lawn. 11 May 2021.

    Russia’s infamous foreign intelligence agency may be behind a series of strange sonic attacks on U.S. government officials – one of which was even reported while an official walked across the White House lawn – according to a new report on Monday.

    They buzzed someone walking across the White House lawns? God give me strength. Bring back the shills. All is forgiven!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9563847/Russias-GRU-spy-unit-suspected-bizarre-sonic-attacks-Havana-Syria.html#comments

    3. Like the Americans drove out Noriega by playing pop music at level 11 outside his hotel.

    2. Not posh enough for swans, but there are two Canadian goslings on the pond.
      I don’t like them, but whenever a neighbour recommends that the eggs should meet with an accident, I look in the mirror and remember that I do more damage to the planet than 10,000 geese.

    3. As of yesterday, we had one mallard duck on the pond that was being followed about by 7 ducklings together with a couple of drakes.
      I presume the other ducks are still sat on their eggs and the rest of the drakes are moulting.

      1. We have had a mallard duck and about five ducklings on the local brook for about a fortnight.

  12. An update on the French soldiers open letter to Toy Boy.

    By 10 pm yesterday, 211,000 people had signed. More than 8.75 MILLION read it. That is over 10% of the population.

  13. An update on the French soldiers open letter to Toy Boy.

    By 10 pm yesterday, 211,000 people had signed. More than 8.75 MILLION read it. That is over 10% of the population.

    2. One of our neighbours had a wee girl. From a very early age she told anyone who would listen, “that they were not her real parents. She was a princess”. I think that she got a skelped lug from time to time.

      1. 332622+ up ticks,
        Morning HP,
        Skelped lugs, clips & the cane in moderation helped build a strong Nation.

        Politicians & regular follows create mental scars in children, example being 1400/1600 raped & abused in rotherham, ongoing.

        1. There are better ways to discipline a child than force.

          If you’re using that, you’ve failed.

          One day your kid will be bigger and stronger than you are, and that rolling pin you happily hit him with as an eight year old is now in *his* hands and you can’t do anything about it.

          1. 332622+ up ticks,
            Afternoon W,
            Have a lie down,
            spare the rod and wreck the child.
            I posted “in moderation”
            “Rolling pin” that sounds like attempted murder.

            Politico’s and society have brought about what we are witnessing now, are you a tory ( ino) member / voter or lab/lib if so YOU are part of the problem.

            Escalating over the last three decades is everything nasty ie,
            knifings, acid tossing, mass murder. mass paedophilia, mass
            political sh!te via an odious close shop given succour by an
            electorate who are in the main mentally retarded.
            A well deserved slap sorted more problems than caused mental scars.

            Many a clout on the snout in a pub mostly ended with a pint after things were sorted but that is back in the days of normality.

  16. We need to show voters what we stand for – and that Labour is on their side. 11 May 2021.

    As a party, we must learn from both our challenges and successes to turn this situation around, so that people feel we speak for them again, and trust us with their votes. That is the lesson from places like Wales, where the first minister, Mark Drakeford, set out policies that will transform people’s lives – like a pay rise for care workers and a guarantee of work, education or training for all under-25s. That is the lesson from Greater Manchester, where Andy Burnham showed the difference that Labour makes in power: he connected with people and showed that he was on their side.

    People know what they stand for! That’s why they didn’t vote for them! Rayner cannot bear to face the reality. This is a Party that has run out of people; it hates the White Working Class so who can it possibly turn too? It will limp along for few years yet but will come more and more to resemble the Liberal Party, except in London, where it will become the Metropolitan and Muslim Labour Party. (MMLP)

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/10/voters-labour-angela-rayner

      2. Labour stands for big state, high taxes, a massive wealth gap, economic ruin and welfare reliance for the lowest earners.

        It is for corruption and corporatism. It is pro war, but anti army. It is anti Israel and pro Muslim – even when Islam is so clearly in the wrong.

  17. 332622+ up ticks,
    Old neil is making all the right moves in my book, all we need now is his like in the tory (ino) & lib/dems parties
    the lab/lib/con coalition in self destruct mode.

    Dt,
    Sir Keir Starmer urged to disavow ‘prince of darkness’ Lord Mandelson

  18. Three bits of silliness to brighten the day:

    Theresa May as Darth Vader – Death Star Canteen by Eddy Izzard

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv5iEK-IEzw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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    INVITATION

    We are hosting a charity concert for people who struggle to reach orgasm.

    If you can’t come, please let me know.

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    My favourite chili sauce commercial

    http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Yn0ey0vePwI&vq=medium

  19. Paroxysms of joy! This morning the BBC people are going into raptures that cinemas and music venues will reopen shortly. We should all be so delighted and grateful. Nobody has ever questioned the legality of shutting everything down. It has been against every maxim, definition, and tenet of freedom. We are now small children, kept in a playpen, and given toys when we are good.

    1. In 1939, government kneejerk reaction to the declaration of war was that everything had to be shut down; theatres, entertainment, the lot. Then they realised that doing so would kill the morale of the nation and obliterate their willingness to fight, so things were re-opened. I would contend that the Luftwaffe dropping HE on your head was far graver a threat than the .03% chance of dying from Covid.

  20. A few days ago I mentioned that the non-jabbed would be providing a control group for the government/big pharmas. This snippet from the White Paper on Experimental Vaccines for Covid-19 gives one very good reason why the government are hell-bent on jabbing everyone, including children.

    Cynical, moi? You bet.

    Emphasis is mine.

    VI. COVID-19 Experimental Vaccines & Antibody-Dependent EnhancementA well-documented and serious side effect of vaccines is known as pathogenic priming or antibody dependent orimmune enhancement. It is difficult to prove, withdoctors and scientists and the public tend to initially deny its existence by saying a person(s)has“a worse virus.” One way we learn that ADE is a real effect is by comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated populations.If entire populations are immediately vaccinated with these experimental vaccines, the true incidence of ADE will never be known, as many cases will just be falsely described as a “new strain” or “more severe strain.” Although most readers have never heard of it,antibody-dependent-enhancementis so well known, it even has its own Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibody-dependent_enhancementscreenshot date December 8, 2020. Note that coronaviruses are commonly implicated.

        1. cheers. Usual gig here with mhindis observing their Eid customs, so I’m following mine [liquid nutrition] as it’s yet another public hol here. Have a good one

  21. Bob3’s off to play golf and I’m off out for liquid nutrition as it’s Eid al-Fitr which means plenty of parking space / clear bar / restaurant. Enjoy the day, will pick up thread later

  22. 332622+ up ticks,
    A party surely has to be formed for decent folk to get behind issues such as islamic ideology and the dangers of.
    Every islamic ideology follower should be asked first, to leave these shores on account of this teacher issue alone.

    Either a complete new party or mass support for an Ann Marie Waters leadership.

    As sure as God made little green apples these creatures will be after the butcher,baker & the candlestick maker next, that is a definite.

    British Teacher Still in Hiding After Showing Mohammed Cartoon Six Weeks Ago

  25. Putin’s team win 13-9 in Night Hockey League gala match. 11 May 2021.

    The Hockey Legends team, with Russian President Vladimir Putin playing, has won 13-9 in a gala match of the Night Hockey League in Sochi.

    Putin was wearing his customary red hockey jersey, sporting number 11. Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, Moscow Region Governor Andrei Vorobyev, jazz musician Igor Butman, celebrated Russian ice hockey players Viacheslav Fetisov, Pavel Bure, Alexei Kasatonov, Valeri Kamensky, Igor Larionov and others clashed in the friendly between Hockey Legends and a team of Night Hockey League.

    Of course they did! Lol!

    https://tass.com/sport/1287935

    1. Like Henry VIII always winning his jousts. Until his leg caught up with him.

    2. It was the prize-winning gala for the Russian amateur league started 10 years ago.
      This year’s winners were Nizhny Novgorod who now get a new ice-hockey stadium as the prize.

  26. Palestinians killed in Israeli strikes on Gaza militant targets
    Air strikes hit Hamas commander’s home and Gaza tunnels after day of unrest in Jerusalem

    Totally without provocation of course…..

    2. News night was shocking last night .. Hysteria from the one side , and calm un provocative discussion from the other and Emily Maitlis drawing blood from both sides.

      1. Why does the BBC employ people like Emily Maitlis and Alastair Campbell? They must know that by so doing they only confirm their bias and lack of objectivity.

        1. Why would they worry? The income rolls in – money extorted with menaces – regardless of how they behave.

    3. From the BBC?

      Always rather assumed it would be spun that Hamas were the victims.

  28. From this morning’s news:

    “34% of money circulating in the USA is from transfer payments”.

    ………This won’t end well.

      2. That is taxpayers’ money transferred to individuals and organisations NOT being payment for goods or services.

        Just a gift from the Government.

  29. I have been asked by my good personal friend, Spikey [Fallick Alec], to inform NoTTLers of the sad news that his dearly beloved wife, Barbara, passed away peacefully in the early hours of this morning.

    I’m sure you will all join me in expressing your deepest condolences to our good friend and excellent NoTTLer, Spikey, during his time of bereavement.

    2. My Deepest Condolences Spikey,We know its been a difficult year,all our thoughts are with you

    4. I hope he could be with her, this last year has been dreadful for them both.
      Thank you.

    5. Oh I’m so sorry for Alec. Please pass on our heartfelt sympathy, from Alf and me.

    7. Good morning Grizzly ,

      So very sorry to read you are the bearer of very sad news .

      Please give Spikey my deepest condolences.

      RIP Barbara.

    8. I’m sure, George that you will pass all of our condolences and sympathy to Spikey from the loving NoTTLe family.

      It’s obviously a terrible time for him.

    9. Oh, man. Poor Alec.
      Words fail me.
      At least he got to see her recently.

    10. Please convey my condolences to Spikey. The circumstances over the past year has been wretched for everyone, especially for Spikey and his wife.

    11. Thank you, Grizz.

      Poor man. The last years have been awful for him in so many ways. I hope he will find a way of coping.

    12. I’m so sorry to hear that. Please convey my sincere condolences to Alec.

    13. How very sad.

      We have a very great respect and high regard for Spikey. Not only for the love and care he lavished on his beloved wife, Barbara, but also for his natural ability as a musician and the fact that he used this great talent to entertain people in nursing homes. Caroline and I send him our sincerest sympathies.

    15. That’s very sad news. Thank you for passing it on Grizz. I’m sure you will pass on to Spikey all the comments everyone has put on here expressing their sorrow and condolences.

    16. Dreadfully sad news for him after such a lockdown too. My thoughts are with Spikey.

    18. Very sad to hear that Grizz, my condolences to our longtime Nottler friend Falick Alec. In the Jewish tradition I wish Spikey & family long life & good health and may they know no more sorrow & grief, Amen.

    20. So sorry to hear this, my condolences to Spikey and his family. So sad especially with the lockdown and reduced visiting opportunities, and in view of the possibilities of increased visiting on the cards. God bless.

    21. The bearer of sad news indeed.
      My condolences to Fallick Alec on his loss, but at least she is at peace now.

    22. Very sad news – my thoughts are with Alec and I hope he was able to be with Barbara to say goodbye, not stuck behind some screen.

    24. Grizzly, thank you for sharing this sad news, please add our condolences to Spikey when you can.

    25. Thank you Grizz. So sad. His devotion has been amazing. Hoping they were together as close to the last as possible.

    26. Thank you, George. All of our hearts go out to our Spikey at this difficult time – a loyal, loving and devoted husband who is now bereft. Our thoughts and prayers are with him.

    28. So sorry to hear about Barbara’s death. Poor Spikey had only just been allowed to hug his darling wife after so long. He must be devastated, and I want to sent my condolences and love to him and the family. Bless you Spikey, and thinking of you. XX

    30. Very sad news and to think that thanks to this damned bug, he was not able to be with his wife much during the past year.

      Commiserations to Spikey

      1. 332622+ + up ticks,
        Morning TB,
        I do personally see him as a very fit member of the coalition.

    2. He would do that, wouldn’t he? We already know from his antics in the Speaker’s chair that he is a vile little guttersnipe – this just endorses it.

    3. I bet the Tories are kicking themselves they didn’t support their own man more and also come to some accommodation with the other candidates to ensure Khan was kicked out.

      1. What do they care. They can legislate where you go, who you can see, how close you can get to them, how you can touch them, what you must be wearing, and they have that control over the entire populace. Do you think they care about the London Mayorship?

    4. The most important question this raises is: Which one is the twattier twat – Bercow or the hyper-repulsive Campbell.

    6. Let’s face it, it’s not the first time Bercow has been completely wrong, is it?

    1. Well,as it was in Tatarstan which is mainly Muslim,You’re probably onto a winner.

  32. A statistical service sends me random statistics. I don’t know why, I suppose I must have looked something up at some point. This morning I was advised that there are now 10m electric cars in the world. I looked up the number of cars. There are 1.06bn cars. So electric cars are I in 100. If we had put as much energy, thought. and effort into public transport we might have useful public transport. That led to some other considerations. Many railway stations have public toilets. Access is very difficult, if you have two bags and a briefcase, because the doors are not wide enough. The size of the doors in railway station toilets has not changed in 100 years. For much of the last hundred years there was no need to carry your luggage into the toilets when it could all be left in the Left Luggage office while you went to the toilet after spending some time in the refreshment room. There don’t seem to be any Left Luggage offices any more, so one is compelled to drag luggage into the bar, the newspaper shop, and the toilet, as well as the queue for tickets. Only now, decades later than first required, are toilet doors now being installed that are wide enough to accommodate the passage of fat travellers with big suitcases.
    This is, I suppose, how historical hangovers occur. Things that were associated with other items now discarded have stayed around when the original purpose has been lost and maybe even forgotten. (Some train seats had anti-macassars until recently. Collar studs were not required once attached collars came into use on shirts. Other hangovers are available…)

    1. A few years ago I visited Cologne for a few days. On the last day I had hours to fill between leaving the hotel and going to the airport. So thought I’d leave my cases at the railway station.
      The left luggage lockers looked completely inadequate but were actually an excellent system. There were a couple of different sized lockers to choose from but there only seemed to be a couple of each. Anyway, I chose the size on a panel then had to enter how long – hours/days – I wanted to leave them. Then I had to put some money in a nd a door opened. I put the bags in and they disappeared to a storage underground. I was then shown a code to enter to retrieve them.

      I bet the store underground was mahoosive. I was very impressed. I wonder if e.g. Paddington or King’s X has anything similar.

      1. Waterloo doesn’t. I’ve used it a couple of times before – a totally inadequate store room with a couple of bods running the counter. Get there early or it’s full.. Oh, and take out a second mortgage if you leave bags overnight.

  34. Arggggggh! Just wasted over an hour on the phone trying to get through to our surgery, only to be told that all appointments had gone and to ‘phone again tomorrow morning’. This was after being cut off six times and having to re-dial each time. Needless to say I have sent a pithy e-mail to them asking them to replace their antiquated telephone system by one that a) doesn’t cut callers off at random and b) informs them where they are in the queue so they can call at less busy times. Oh, and now I’m trying 111. Wish me luck…

    1. My surgery has a web booking system similar to booking a flight.
      The days with free slots are coloured green, click on those, and the open times are shown.
      Works well.

      2. We used to have one of those, then they stopped allowing the plebs to book appointments on line.

    2. Most GPs now have online booking systems. Have you looked into registering to use that?

      1. We do – but NOT since the plague started.

        And before that, on-line appointments were usually three weeks ahead. So one had to plan well in advance when to be unwell…(sarc)

        1. ……and if you are ill by the time your app. comes you’re ready for the ambulance…….or another service!

  35. Good morning my friends

    DT Story
    Queen’s Speech 2021: The new laws Boris Johnson wants to push through
    Government aiming to bring forward around 25 Bills in next year, including one that could be used to spring a snap election

    Nottlers will all remember how fixed term parliaments were introduced by Clegg as a condition of his becoming deputy pm. The prolific fornicator – who boasted about the number of his sexual conquests – hoped that fixed term parliaments would keep him and his pathetic party in power for a few years as he knew that after the student fees fiasco which completely destroyed the Lib/Dems ability ever to win votes again the Lib/Dems were finished. Clegg also meddled with the royal succession and went back on his promise to Cameron about reforming constituency borders.

    That the likes of Johnson and Clegg managed to seduce any women at all brings to mind that observation of Hamlet’s:

    Frailty, thy name is woman.

    1. Boris was competitive, and obviously funny, intelligent etc. At Oxford he allegedly ‘dated’ some good looking female student, well out of his league. But at that age it is a sport.

    2. The bit I don’t get is this urge that they will grow the economy… by hiking taxes and legislating

      … and… and… adding more taxes!

      Then there’s the makework fiasco of ‘lifelong learning’. Dear life, just leave people alone!

      Why are they so utterly obsessed with lying? As for returning gimmigrants, we could do that now. It takes no more laws, just the enforcement of the ones we have.

  36. England’s second rugby team will no longer be called the ‘Saxons’ – a name commonly used to describe white people – because it is ‘inappropriate’ and doesn’t ‘reflect diversity in society’, the sport’s bosses revealed today.

    The Rugby Football Union will now call the team ‘England A’ because the national team has more players from black or minority groups than when the Saxons name started being used in 2006.

    It came as the RFU also distanced itself from the fans’ favourite song Swing Low, Sweet Chariot because of its ties with slavery.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9565007/Rugby-bosses-stop-using-nickname-Saxons-Englands-second-team.html

    1. Since England took the knee and now this, I completely give up on the RFU, as it proves that none of them has any balls, odd-shaped or otherwise.

      It’s as bad as the Wendyball operation.

      1. I have completely stopped watching rugby. Something I enjoyed for most of my life has become utterly depressing.

        1. Switch to supporting Welsh Wales, Bilty. Rarely disappointing. (Except tha last five mins against the Frogs a few months back)

        2. It is isn’t it? I watched part of a match on free TV a couple of weeks ago. Two Welsh teams, maybe Scarlets and another? Wonderful play from the backs. Hard running, making breaks, passing, inter-passing. If only internationals were played the same way.

        3. Same as,…….. It seemed to me for a long time that in the internationals the bias of the referring was the paramount thing in Rugby and i’ll bet some of those refs have decent holiday homes now. I don’t watch any sport on TV, except maybe a little golf if i can find any.

    2. Better stop calling the first team ‘England’, because the country is named after the Angles – white people from northern Europe.

    3. That all white strip needs to go too, shurely
      :).
      Frafully oppressive, reminds me of the clan.

        1. Shameful colonisation; the Kentucky Derby is the “Run for the Roses” and Flemington, for the Race That Stops A Nation, is ablaze with roses on the first Tuesday in November.

    5. Not “Half ‘n’ halves”? Or maybe “Minstrels”? But, really, I did not know that England had a second team. Usually the second team is called the “B’ team, but you’d have to understand English for that.

    6. Well I’m blowed…..we are constantly reminded daily by the media of our evil past
      ‘lest we forget’….

    7. Wotcher, Belle, Hope all is well with you and yours.

      How pathetic. How ridiculously pathetic. I suppose Rugby will not now be allowed to be called Rugby because it started in a white school – not because it excluded blacks; there weren’t any to enrol at the time.

    1. Thanks Rik, so far no rockets fired at Tel Aviv but one hit a block of flats at Ashkelon on the coast south of Tel Aviv & destroyed an apartment & injured 8 people

    2. Tell it not in Gath.
      Publish it not in the streets of Askelon
      Lest the daughters of the Philistines rejoice
      Lest the daughters of the uncircumcised triumph.

      [‘The Song of the Bow’: David’s Lament over the deaths of Saul and Jonathan]

  38. #CovidClownWorld
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/47fc66826e7bd5345527d90cd94ced5daa54d5514c58a33ea52ee5e20c02fd53.jpg
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d6775bb99ee33274578f940984ebd9e0204aaf69c295c5e521f90015093c09a9.jpg
    http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ade8dd261da7fcc14ffefcf10be8371966861646f335ce6bbb4dd67945446e67.jpg
    And Finally
    http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5b1ad8185f66089b854097ed50cbb8bce3e0bea8bbe198bd4c4e9fd5890da94f.jpg
    The “Deadly Indian” variant is currently being hyped,Autumn Lockdown anyone??

    1. Well before that. Middle of summer when millions are abroad on holiday and are told they have 24 hours to return.

  39. ‘Morning, all. Watched a film last night, Steven Spielberg’s acclaimed production, “War Horse”.

    For anybody that doesn’t know, it’s an unlikely story about a horse called Joey, trained as a workhorse by a farmer’s lad on a Devonshire farm and sold to the Army as a cavalry mount at the outbreak of war in 1914. Like most, I’d assumed that the title of the film referred to a horse trained to war and used in the great tradition of British mounted regiments such as the Scots Greys at Waterloo and those of the Light Brigade at Balaclava.

    Not so! The meaning of the title became clear to me towards the end of the film when Joey, after being captured and serving with the German Army for most of the war, is startled by a tank and bolts into no-man’s-land where he becomes hung up on barbed wire. A Geordie corporal leaves the British trenches to rescue him, in which noble endeavour he’s aided by a German soldier who supplies some wire-cutters. After they have cut Joey free, they argue about who has the right of ownership. The German claims the horse, since he supplied the wire-cutters but the Geordie avers that he is British, saying he is “war horse” (hence the film’s title).

    Like gentlemen, despite their humble rank, the two enemies settle the matter on the toss of a coin and Joey returns to the British lines with the Geordie corporal. I do like a happy ending.
    :¬)

      1. Bring it on…..
        Nothing wrong with expressing tender emotions and feelings, love, pity, or nostalgia.

    2. What we did learn from the film is that in a cavalry charge, machine-guns only kill the riders and leave the horses untouched.

    3. I believe that in the novel by Michael Morpurgo, the horse is eventually reunited with the Devonshire lad, having spent the latter part of the Great War, pulling a cart for a Frenchman..

      It’s quite a while since I read it.

    4. Geordie with General Custer
      Custer “Listen,the Indians are playing War Drums”
      Geordie “Thieving bastards!! “

        1. Thanks Duncan. It’s worth watching again.
          I have plenty of time until my tennis shoes come out of cold storage!

    6. It made for a very cleverly done and emotionally moving stage play.

    7. I’ve edited this comment because I believe I’ve got the author (but not the rest of the information) wrong.

  40. Its an unhappy Monday here in Israel all Nottlers – since 6PM locally on Sunday Hamas has fired 345 rockets into Israel, wounding 8 people , destroying 1 flat & one house and damaging several other properties, plus the local Arabs have been rioting all over Israel throwing petrol bombs & rocks in support of their pals in Hamas. We have sent our Air Force into action over Gaza killing 15 or more terrorist rocket launchers although foreign news media is also blaming us for the death of 3 children in Gaza who were killed by a Hamas rocket prematurely exploding over Gaza, fully 1/3 of their rockets fell short & exploded in their own territory, 100 plus have been intercepted by our Iron Dome system & the rest landed & exploded in open spaces, only 2 of their rockets hitting our towns

    1. Thanks for the local update, Hat.
      Keep hitting back at the bastards.
      May you and yours stay safe.

    2. Thank you for the ‘on the ground’ update, Hat.

      More and more it makes me realise that not only must we expel them from our country – and you from yours – but maybe there should be a world-wide crusade against them, with the aim of wiping them from the face of the earth.

      It is a flawed and totalitarian ideology.

    3. Why can’t they just leave each other alone? Laziness is the best guarantee of peace.

      Someone has to actively climb up to the roof and fire off the missile. They could stay in bed and drink tea!

      1. The EU is the biggest international aid donor to the Palestinians ( and not their fellow Arabs ) so it is a profitable business to build & fire rockets using EU funding rather than building new homes, schools, hospitals, roads etc & creating jobs !

        1. If the money wasted on Hamas and their ilk had really been used to provide the infrastructure to provide productive jobs for the Palestinian people and the Armed Struggle binned where it belongs, their per capita income would probably be close to matching that of Israel.

          1. Bob, even if the Fakestinians had spent the tens of billions in aid money they have received over the decades on infrastructure , education, health, housing & jobs their per capita income would not be close to matching that of Israel because the average IQ of the Arabs is at best 85 & at worst matches that of African nations at around 65. That is why we can never have peace with them, violence & crime is in their DNA & that of course is why 3rd world Muslims, Black Africans & Caribbean’s as a group can never successfully integrate into Western society where the average IQ is 100

  41. From Richard Littlejohn, Daily Mail –

    “A Woman you’ve never heard of is reshuffled out of a job you didn’t know
    she had, then promoted into another job you didn’t realise existed”

    Angela Rayner . . !!

    1. For those who don’t know who she is she is the woman in the photo kneeling alongside Sir Keir Starmer in sympathetic support of a black criminal.

    1. I don’t mind if people want to keep wearing a mask. That’s their choice. Where it becomes a problem is if we’re told to keep wearing one.

      Yet…..covid isn’t going to go away. Nor is flu. Will we be told to keep wearing a mask indefinitely?

      1. It’ll be back every winter now, just like flu. It’s time for mask -wearing to stop. I certainly wouldn’t wear it if it wasn’t enforced. I’ve left it a bit late to claim exemption.

          1. Sure it can – but I don’t think mask wearing would help it. Or did you mean I should say I have asthma and stop using a mask for half an hour per week?

      2. It’s rather like using a condom when your wife has a coil and a Dutch cap, is also on the pill and has passed the menopause!.

  43. Belated good morning all, I am also very sorry to hear about the passing of Alec’s wife Barbara.
    It’s very sad to hear and especially distressing when it’s a very close member of the family.
    Best wishes to you and yours Spikey.

    1. No, I can’t name such a country …. but the Western world is full of very successful socialists …. especially in its universities and publicly funded sectors …. especially the NHS (and its privatised offshoots) and amongst the socialist friends of the Great and the Good who get sinecures in the QUANGOs and Charity sectors

      1. The UK is one of the three in the article, along with Israel and India

    3. Socialists argue that that was not real socialism.

      Thing is… it’s never real socialism.

      1. Socialism is what the Socialist says it is.
        Socialism is the perfect system which, if implemented properly, will NEVER fail.
        Ergo, should a system calling its self “Socialist” fail, then it could never have been Socialist in the first place.

  45. The Moggster breaks his DT silence – with a piece of PR.

    Actually, it’s not so bad – until the last paragraph…

    Parliament cannot blame Brussels any longer

    The Queen’s Speech this year will represent the return of democratic sovereignty to the UK

    JACOB REES-MOGG

    The Crown carried by the Lord Great Chamberlain, the Sword of State symbolising regal power, the Cap of Maintenance held aloft by the Lord Privy Seal – these will all display the authority of the Queen in Parliament at the state opening.

    Yet the symbolism and reality are not always the same. The House of Lords sits in gilded splendour while the more powerful House of Commons has a subdued chamber. Equally, when the UK was in the EU, the democratic sovereignty represented in the ceremony of the State Opening of Parliament was diluted, for much authority was vested elsewhere. This has changed, and the ceremony we will see – though less flamboyant than normal because of Covid – will be a moment of profound consequence for a Parliament which now wields the full power of its sovereignty once again.

    For the agenda unveiled tomorrow has the broadest scope of legislative action for many years, taking full advantage of powers returning from Europe. This is a Queen’s Speech which AV Dicey, the great Victorian constitutionalist, would have recognised as fit for a Parliament that is indisputably the nation’s supreme law-making body.

    Before joining the Government, I did not fully appreciate the amount of work that goes into preparing any bill, let alone a programme of this depth and scope. After months of toil across Whitehall and beyond, the legislative agenda unveiled tomorrow will level up opportunities across the country.

    Instead of accepting the open borders of the EU, we will regain control of immigration with legislation to reform our asylum system comprehensively. This was a key expectation of the decision to leave the EU and will improve our safety as well as restoring democratic choice. Instead of burdening businesses with a quagmire of needless EU bureaucracy, we will develop a new, streamlined subsidy control system which will allow our strategic industries to flourish by providing fast government support.

    Instead of being locked into the EU’s restrictive trade and state aid policies, we will legislate to deliver dozens of freeports which will allow areas of the country which have been left behind economically to grow. Across the globe, freeports have brought dynamism to regions that have suffered under the dead hand of socialism.

    Naturally there are priorities that do not relate to leaving the EU, including our commitment to keeping the public safe, which is why our flagship Policing Bill will return to ensure our officers have the tools they need. Across the full swathe of public policy, Parliament will be an engine of change once again for the advancement of this society and of its prosperity. Previously, MPs might have shrugged their shoulders and pointed to Brussels. Now they can tap the relevant minister on the shoulder, pass on their concerns and potentially change the law of the land.

    Now the powers divested to Brussels have been restored to their rightful place, the time has come for MPs to do more for their constituents. There are no further excuses. It is a remarkable fact that issues raised in a constituency surgery at the weekend are regularly put to the head of government in Prime Minister’s Questions the following Wednesday. It shows the immediacy of this democracy and the importance of individual rights. All parliamentarians will surely now want to recognise their enhanced responsibility as lawmakers, scrutinising and improving the measures put before them.

    Sir John Fortescue grasped this in his 15th-century masterpiece Commendation of the Laws of England, when he wrote that decisions should be taken by the monarch only with “the express consent and agreement of his whole realm in his parliament”. When this happens, it “hereby cometh to pass … that the men of that land are rich, having abundance of gold and silver and other things necessary for the maintenance of life”.

    Prosperity follows democracy, and with this set of bills, taking advantage of the returned powers, it can be achieved through the Government’s plan to build back better. Doing so will strengthen the sinews of the nation and its most cherished democratic institution – ensuring the Queen in Parliament, fully sovereign once more, with the reality and symbolism of power reunited, makes the most of its refortification, its revivification, its regeneration.

    Jacob Rees-Mogg MP is leader of the House of Commons

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/05/10/parliament-cannot-blame-brussels-longer/

    1. Yes, he’s certainly taken to the role of “Mr Sunny Outlook” in that last paragraph.

    2. “Build Back Better” has such an ominous ring to it, given the machinations of, and the diktats emanating from, the huge majority government with little or no opposition, that I fear for the future.

      I personally would like to know that:

      1. We are leaving the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) and have no further truck with the European Court of ‘Justice’ (ECJ ha ha).
      2. The Human Rights Act is repealed.
      3.The House of Lords is reformed with only the hereditaries and Law Lords allowed.
      4. The ‘Supreme’ Court is dissolved, with the Law Lords and The Monarch as the final courts of appeal restored.
      5. Devolution in all forms is immediately dissolved, with Westminster re-instated as the absolute authority.

      Apart from this legislation, the Home Secretary should now be told to get on with her job and any Civil Service interference, will result in the sacking of those who would interfere, with no appeal and loss of pension. Hmm, perhaps:

      6. Common Purpose is outlawed and declared a terrorist organisation.

      Let’s not only put the boot on the other foot but use it to boot out all the naysayers.

      1. Thank you for the uptick, Anne, I think you and I are pretty much on the same wavelength.

        1. Agreed, Horace, not so much “Build Back Better” but more “Build Back Britain.”

    3. Cool it Jakey Baby. Nobody rates you any more since you caved in on going for a proper Brexit.

    4. “Instead of accepting the open borders of the EU, we will regain control of immigration with legislation to reform our asylum system comprehensively.” As Labour showed during its 13 years of vandalism, enacting legislation is not the answer. We need the will to actually DO something about the situation.

    5. Still pretending the great reset isn’t well underway, Jacob? Even quoting “build back better”! Soros and Schwab are proud of you, I’m sure.

  46. The Moggster breaks his DT silence – with a piece of PR.

    Actually, it’s not so bad – until the last paragraph…

    Parliament cannot blame Brussels any longer

    The Queen’s Speech this year will represent the return of democratic sovereignty to the UK

    JACOB REES-MOGG

    The Crown carried by the Lord Great Chamberlain, the Sword of State symbolising regal power, the Cap of Maintenance held aloft by the Lord Privy Seal – these will all display the authority of the Queen in Parliament at the state opening.

    Yet the symbolism and reality are not always the same. The House of Lords sits in gilded splendour while the more powerful House of Commons has a subdued chamber. Equally, when the UK was in the EU, the democratic sovereignty represented in the ceremony of the State Opening of Parliament was diluted, for much authority was vested elsewhere. This has changed, and the ceremony we will see – though less flamboyant than normal because of Covid – will be a moment of profound consequence for a Parliament which now wields the full power of its sovereignty once again.

    For the agenda unveiled tomorrow has the broadest scope of legislative action for many years, taking full advantage of powers returning from Europe. This is a Queen’s Speech which AV Dicey, the great Victorian constitutionalist, would have recognised as fit for a Parliament that is indisputably the nation’s supreme law-making body.

    Before joining the Government, I did not fully appreciate the amount of work that goes into preparing any bill, let alone a programme of this depth and scope. After months of toil across Whitehall and beyond, the legislative agenda unveiled tomorrow will level up opportunities across the country.

    Instead of accepting the open borders of the EU, we will regain control of immigration with legislation to reform our asylum system comprehensively. This was a key expectation of the decision to leave the EU and will improve our safety as well as restoring democratic choice. Instead of burdening businesses with a quagmire of needless EU bureaucracy, we will develop a new, streamlined subsidy control system which will allow our strategic industries to flourish by providing fast government support.

    Instead of being locked into the EU’s restrictive trade and state aid policies, we will legislate to deliver dozens of freeports which will allow areas of the country which have been left behind economically to grow. Across the globe, freeports have brought dynamism to regions that have suffered under the dead hand of socialism.

    Naturally there are priorities that do not relate to leaving the EU, including our commitment to keeping the public safe, which is why our flagship Policing Bill will return to ensure our officers have the tools they need. Across the full swathe of public policy, Parliament will be an engine of change once again for the advancement of this society and of its prosperity. Previously, MPs might have shrugged their shoulders and pointed to Brussels. Now they can tap the relevant minister on the shoulder, pass on their concerns and potentially change the law of the land.

    Now the powers divested to Brussels have been restored to their rightful place, the time has come for MPs to do more for their constituents. There are no further excuses. It is a remarkable fact that issues raised in a constituency surgery at the weekend are regularly put to the head of government in Prime Minister’s Questions the following Wednesday. It shows the immediacy of this democracy and the importance of individual rights. All parliamentarians will surely now want to recognise their enhanced responsibility as lawmakers, scrutinising and improving the measures put before them.

    Sir John Fortescue grasped this in his 15th-century masterpiece Commendation of the Laws of England, when he wrote that decisions should be taken by the monarch only with “the express consent and agreement of his whole realm in his parliament”. When this happens, it “hereby cometh to pass … that the men of that land are rich, having abundance of gold and silver and other things necessary for the maintenance of life”.

    Prosperity follows democracy, and with this set of bills, taking advantage of the returned powers, it can be achieved through the Government’s plan to build back better. Doing so will strengthen the sinews of the nation and its most cherished democratic institution – ensuring the Queen in Parliament, fully sovereign once more, with the reality and symbolism of power reunited, makes the most of its refortification, its revivification, its regeneration.

    Jacob Rees-Mogg MP is leader of the House of Commons

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/05/10/parliament-cannot-blame-brussels-longer/

  48. A bit of foot-stamping by Barnier with some veiled threats thrown in.

    Michel Barnier says UK behaving ‘like buccaneers’ in Jersey fishing row

    EU’s former chief Brexit negotiator warns that trade deal is ‘not currently being respected’

    Michel Barnier has accused the Government of behaving like “buccaneers” and failing to respect the Brexit fishing deal following the Jersey stand-off.

    Last week, Jersey imposed new restrictions on fishing licences granted to French vessels in its waters – a move that provoked an outcry in Paris.

    Mr Barnier, the EU’s former chief Brexit negotiator, waded into the debate, saying: “I think that the British are behaving like buccaneers – and it’s not the first time.”

    On Thursday, around 60 French vessels attempted to blockade St Helier, Jersey’s main port, in protest at the licences.

    Local leaders in La Manche, Normandy, said boats from the Channel island would be suspended from entering the ports of Granville, Barneville-Carteret and Dielette until further notice.

    Speaking on French political TV programme C Politique on Sunday, Mr Barnier added: “I think the French fishermen are right and they must be supported.

    “The French authorities, the government and the European Commission must support these fishermen because they have the right to obtain the right to fish in these waters near Jersey and Guernsey, where there are less problems.”

    He said the post-Brexit trade deal is “not currently being respected”, adding: “We must clearly tell the British it cannot work like this otherwise there will be serious consequences on the deal in general and reprisal measures that are included in the treaty.

    “I think that the people of Jersey should be very careful as well because they depend on the [continent] not just for electricity but for business activity and VAT. We have a global deal and they must be careful, that’s the message I want to pass on.”

    On Friday, Ian Gorst, Jersey’s minister for external relations, said the island regretted the decision by French ports to ban Jersey fishermen from landing their catch and believed it fell foul of the Brexit trade deal.

    “For that reason, we are referring the notice of this decision immediately to the European Commission,” Mr Gorst said in a statement.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/10/michel-barnier-says-uk-behaving-like-buccaneers-jersey-fishing/

    1. If only. Time EIIR encouraged English buccaneers like her forebear – the previous Queen Liz.

    2. …and 60 Frog Fishing Boats are NOT acting like ‘Buccaneers, M Barmier than most?

    3. Why does Boris not call in the EU “Ambassador” and tell him that all other embassies of EU member countries should now close as thr UK will not recognise them.. It could be fun. It also avoids sending useless gunboats – we know they will not fire on French fishing boats.

    4. As far as I am aware, the CI do not apply VAT. The EU (and France as its spokesperson in this instance) is, as usual, duplicitous. They only support the bits they think they can get away with. The rest of the legislation is discarded (like most of the catch under the CFP). Time to tell them to eff orf. My friends are trying to lay a patio; they can’t get cement for love or money because it comes from Germany. EU play fair? Oh, my aching sides!

    1. So Tommy Robinson will be getting 90k Compo for his arrest at Hyde Park Corner??
      No,thought not………………..

    2. Hence my post earlier, Eddy, concerning the legislation I would like to see in this and future Queen’s Speeches.

      It would put an end to all this Islamic ideology in this country and allow the deportation of thousands of the jihadist bastards.

      1. My mate was watching his and my beloved Brenda making her speeches on TV just now and apparently when the word criminal was mentioned the camera immediately focused on Pritti Awful.

    3. Interestingly, Christian preachers are removed from the streets by our police.

      1. This nation as we knew it, is finished.
        All our parents and grand-parents did to save it from invasion has now been consigned to history. As if all their efforts meant absolutely nothing.

    4. Interesting that it would normally be banned under race relations act, yet they force it through – no doubt with plenty of public money. Yet do the opposite, criticise them and the state hammers you from on high. Nothing was done to disperse the crowd complaining about the teacher (who, comically was proved right without ever having to bother teaching the lesson). The Dept of Ed abandoned rather than supported him.

      It’s hypocrisy.

  50. Now i’m off to trim the yards of edges and cut the ‘grassy acres’ before the week of rain that’s been forecast.
    Too late, i missed out it chucked it down.

    1. I was too late to tackle my “meadow” (aka lawn) before the rain/hail/downpour arrived.

  52. Farewell to the last butcher in the village – the end of an era for a taste of old England

    It’s fascinating that a completely straightforward family business should have survived 150 years of economic and social change

    CHARLES MOORE

    Our village is in mourning. Our immensely popular family butcher closes forever this Saturday.

    The business has existed for over 150 years. Thomas Jarvis was a Victorian local farmer. When houses cost almost nothing, he clubbed together with fellow-agriculturalists to buy Bateman’s, Rudyard Kipling’s future house. In 1870, he opened a butcher’s shop in the neighbouring village of Burwash. It did well. In 1900, he started a second one in our village, Etchingham.

    Thomas built a combined shop and house for his son Albert, just returned from service with the Royal Sussex Regiment in the Boer war. Near the counter still hangs a photograph of Albert, prosperous and suitably butcher-like in apron, cap and Edwardian moustache, flanking the game that hangs outside the window. To this day, the glass proclaims “A Jarvis” in the ornate lettering of the period.

    Albert’s great-grandson, Nigel, is the current incumbent. He is 65, and has decided to retire.

    Last week, I visited Nigel to talk about it. We are regular customers, but I had only previously been “front of house”. From his kitchen, he has a fine view across the meadows by the river Dudwell. He showed me the tiny back premises downstairs. There, each day, he takes in the whole carcasses of lamb, pigs and sides of beef, and breaks them down into primal cuts. They are then boned out; trimmed; tied; cut.

    Until 1934, the shop had no electricity, so once a week a huge block of ice came up on the train from Hastings and was carried in a hessian bag by horse-drawn cart the few hundred yards from station to shop. The little room built to accommodate it survives. During the war, I imagine the shop was rather like that of Corporal Jones in Dad’s Army, handling rationing and shortage.

    Nigel was brought up next to the Burwash shop and later worked as a meat inspector. In 1985, he succeeded his father Geoff, and has run the place ever since. I half-expected him to tell me that over-regulation, supermarkets, and vegetarianism have defeated him. Not so, he says. “I thought it would be the death-knell when Waitrose and Tesco came so close, but no.”

    The business has grown, modestly but steadily, over his 36 years in charge. “The trick,” he believes, “is to treat everybody the same.” During the lockdown, people stayed at home, took comfort in something they could trust and preferred the Jarvises’ small masked queue to the grim socially distanced waits in Sainsbury’s. Custom went up by 50 per cent. Average annual turnover in recent years is about £150,000.

    Eating habits have certainly changed, Nigel says. Fewer people want Sunday roasts now. Instead, “Chicken fillets fly out of the door” – a metaphor that makes me laugh as I imagine the scene. The sausages are justly famous, made more so when a publican, who bought lots of them in the 1980s, persuaded Nigel to brand them “Burwash Beauties”.

    The customers – mostly individual families – keep coming. They like the local sourcing: F J Jarvis & Sons sell no imported meat – “unless you call Scotland imported”. They also like the quality, and the chat. As for price, it can always be undercut by the supermarkets, but it is not stupendous. The Jarvises have never got fancy.

    In fact, it is rather fascinating that a completely straightforward family business has survived so much economic and social change so well for so long. I think the character of the business today would be wholly recognisable to Thomas Jarvis 150 years on. He would surely approve.

    Why is Nigel stopping, then? “Because I can,” he says. “Thirty-six years is a fair stint.” He loves the place and the work, and has never had any trouble from vegan protestors, thieves or vandals. “I did once pick up someone by the collar and threw him out,” he recalls, “because he was being so rude about a friend of mine.”

    But although the job is peaceful and satisfying, it is also relentless. Since his late 20s, Nigel has almost never – the shop being open on Saturdays – managed a weekend away. In the 21st century, his one substantial holiday was a fortnight 15 years ago to see relations in New Zealand (“I was offered a butcher’s business in Akaroa while I was there!”). He has built up enough pension to go now, and cycle, motorcycle and do the other things he enjoys before he gets too old.

    It is the inflexible commitment of set hours, more than money, which presents difficulties for the young. The next Jarvis generation, though well settled in the neighbourhood, does not want to take on the trade. In former times, when it needed more labour, young people could train up in it and find career opportunities to rise. Nowadays, very few staff are needed. When you do want them, they are hard to recruit.

    Anyway, the business goes on. Nigel’s younger brother, Graham, continues in the thriving Burwash shop, and so do the Burwash Beauties. Nigel will certainly be around to help him – “I need to work. I can’t stop.” He will still be found at the summer hog-roasts in which he specialises.

    But it is impossible for us villagers not to be sad. There are only about 700 of us, and we are only too conscious of how lucky we have been. The word “hub” is on everyone’s lips these days, but we are losing a rare one.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/11/farewell-last-butcher-village-end-era-taste-old-england

    1. Here in North Essex, we have several very good proper butchers. They also sell local vegetables, fruit, fish, pies, bread and even tracklements.
      The actual article is not as apocalyptic as the headlines.

      1. ‘Afternoon, Anne, interesting word ‘tracklements’ is that the the same thing I knew in the 50s as ‘Brawn’ or ‘Brawn Jelly’?

          1. I believe ‘brawn’ was a such like and just want it confirmed, BoB, as I’ve never, in my 77 years, heard of tracklements until this last year.

      2. We’re spoilt – we have two butchers, a greengrocer and a fishmonger.

      3. We’re spoilt – we have two butchers, a greengrocer and a fishmonger.

    2. It sounds as though the business is continuing with the younger brother in charge.

  53. 332622+ up ticks,

    “Tuesday 11 May: If Labour cannot decide what it stands for, it should dissolve as a party”

    Along with the tory (ino) & the lib/dems on the day the JAY report was published they should have quit as a
    mass uncontrolled immigration coalition.

  54. 332622+ up ticks,
    No doubt of that, what is a certainty is it makes the innocent decent peoples outside of the supporting / voter
    of the lab/lib/con mass uncontrolled immigration, ongoing
    a bloody sight poorer, the cost raising raising daily.

    breitbart,
    ‘Thank You for Our Full Pockets’ – People-Smuggler Says Boris Govt Making Them Richer

  55. Thank you, Grizz, for letting us know about Spikey’s wife. Our thoughts are with him. I do hope he has some supportive people around him and is not all alone in his bothy.

  56. I read that BPAPM may plan a snap election in 2023. He’d better be careful. Most Conservative voters I know will not be voting for his party again.

  57. Top Russian doctor at Navalny clinic found after disappearance. 11 May 2021.

    The former chief physician of the hospital where the Russian protest leader Alexei Navalny was first treated for novichok poisoning has been found alive days after disappearing into a Siberian forest.

    Alexander Murakhovsky emerged from a forest in the Omsk region on Monday three days after vanishing while on holiday, abandoning an all-terrain vehicle (ATV) miles from a hunting lodge where he was staying with friends.

    “The reports of my death at the hands of the GRU/Putin/Novichok Bears in the West’s MSM have been much exaggerated!” Says Murakhovsky. Lol!

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/10/top-russian-doctor-at-navalny-clinic-found-after-disappearance

    1. She’s a breath of fresh air.
      I’m sure the deeply affected can arrange to move to Africa and then they hopefully wont be recognised.

  59. Craig Murray Jailed for Eight Months for Contempt of Court Over Alex Salmond Trial

    The former British diplomat argued the contempt of court charges against him undermine the right to free speech, are unduly broad in their scope, and are a form of politically motivated retaliation, following his outspoken criticism of the prosecution of former Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond.

    The High Court in Edinburgh has jailed former British diplomat-turned-whistleblower Craig Murray for eight months for contempt of court.

    The charge related to Murray’s alleged “jigsaw” identification of the identities of protected witnesses in the trial of former Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond.

    But Murray will remain free for three weeks while his lawyers submit an appeal against his conviction.

    1. They’ve been waiting the chance to get at Murray. His exposé’s of Syria and Salisbury have got up their noses more than once!

      1. So let me get this straight, Julian Assange (never published a lie) is in jail, Craig Murray (blew the lid on torture) is going to jail, and Alastair Campbell (sexed-up a dodgy dossier that helped lead to 1,000,000+ deaths) presents Good Morning Britain?

      2. No comments allowed under the Scotsman report, 144 comments under Glasgow Herald report. The judge who has jailed Murray was the judge at the Salmond trial. The essence of his offence is that he published bits of information that could be put together like a “jigsaw” and thereby identify the complainants, possibly. However there was, I think, no suggestion that any complainant was publicly named as a result.
        Seems fair enough. Until one reviews other reporting from the same period. In particular a TV “documentary” type report featuring Kirsty Wark and other women was utterly astonishing in its bias against Salmond. Yet not a murmur.

    1. That first one only works if you know that in the US, the party on the right is red.

  61. Looks like that we may be going to war with them in Gaza again now that 2 people have been killed in Ashkelon & 5000 reservists have been called up today. Ashkelon, the nearest Israeli city to Gaza , has been targeted with over 50 rockets since last night & apart from 2 killed over 30 have been hospitalized with blast & shrapnel injuries and of course dozens treated for trauma.

    1. Sorry to hear this but thank you for posting and keeping us updated.

      I doubt we would hear much truth on the BBC. Not that i watch it any more.

      1. None of the UK media is fairly covering the story, Arafat & his PLO thugs were always the darlings of the UK media & the PLO & Hamas still are!

    2. If somebody chucked me and my family on the street and then bulldozed my house,i might take umbrage.

      1. But then if you cheered on and joined in as my neighbours tried to wipe me and my family off the face of the earth I’d view a few houses in conquered land just desserts.

        1. Has there ever been a day’s peace since Israel was “founded” 75 years ago.
          Some think it was the UK who were behind it…others look beyond the obvious.

      2. Harry I take it that you support the Fakestinians & have drunk from the poisoned well of hard left propaganda which pushes the false narrative of their being a separate Palestinian people & somehow we Jews have stolen their land & property.
        From a newspaper interview by Zuheir Mohsen :
        The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.
        Zuheir Mohsen (1936 – 25 July 1979) was a Palestinian leader of the Syria-controlled as-Sa’iqa faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) between 1971 and 1979.

        1. I could but i won’t.
          You’ll never be anything but a US staging post…but you have to live with that,,i don’t.

          1. You’ll never be anything but a US staging post…but you have to live with that,,i don’t.
            Thanks Harry, you have a closed profile but you have revealed yourself to be an Antisemite regurgitating the tired clapped out propaganda lies that are common to both the hard left & fascist right.

          2. You’re not the first and probably not the last to label me.Water off a duck’s back.

          4. Meh..i support the Jews in Syria…Zionists,not so much.
            Incidentally,do you carry the Semite DNA…80% of Palestinians do.
            Or are you descended from the Khazarian Ashkenakis?

          5. Harry you really have got it bad – the Antisemitic bug, I am surprised that you post on NTTL & since your profile is closed its hard to know where else you post. I have no desire to continue a fruitless discussion with you on NTTL as you seem now to be bringing up neo-nazi racial tropes about Jews which are bandied about on neo-nazi websites like Channel Z & Morgoths Review

          7. You’ll never be anything but a US staging post…but you have to live with that,,i don’t.
            Thanks Harry, you have a closed profile but you have revealed yourself to be an Antisemite regurgitating the tired clapped out propaganda lies that are common to both the hard left & fascist right.

  62. Looks like that we may be going to war with them in Gaza again now that 2 people have been killed in Ashkelon & 5000 reservists have been called up today. Ashkelon, the nearest Israeli city to Gaza , has been targeted with over 50 rockets since last night & apart from 2 killed over 30 have been hospitalized with blast & shrapnel injuries and of course dozens treated for trauma.

  64. Brendan o’Neil

    The world’s gone even madderer

    “Should I now expect to be interrogated for my hug-crimes? To name names? To

    dob in everyone who reciprocated the hug rather than saying: ‘STOP!

    We’re only allowed to bump elbows’? And must I now cease all human

    contact until next Monday, when officialdom will graciously return to me

    the right to throw my arms around an old friend or family member? It’s

    madness.

    The discussion about hugging over the past 48 hours has been gloriously

    nuts. It kicked off on Sunday with Michael Gove saying that, ‘all being

    well’, the hug can return to everyday life on 17 May. ‘Friendly contact’

    is something the government wants to see, he said. The government now

    gets to decide how friendly we’re allowed to be to one another.But make sure your hug is a ‘cautious cuddle’,”

    Rest here

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/a-cautious-cuddle-no-thanks-boris

    2. Putin got in before them…again.
      I distinctly saw him hugging some of the old veterans at the parade on Sunday.

    3. A couple of weeks ago I was sitting waiting for my order in the local Chinese Takeaway when a guy came in with a litle girl who’d be about 2-3 years old. No masks on either and the toddler was a sweet little thing – they were black and her hair was dressed with beads etc, as they do. Anywy she toddled up to me with her arms wide and said, “Hug!”, so we did and her dad looked on with a grin. That was just after the awful zoom where my brothers insisted I should be jabbed so I wasn’t feeling good and her innocent gesture really cheered me up!

          1. I would have to get them to find a felony to charge me with. This pandemic shermit is covered mostly by advice, regulations and very few actual laws.

    5. IMO, the govt is only interested in friendly fire (promoting it, rather than preventing it).

    2. That is worthless Without context and a description of what the terms used mean. For example, if that were for 70+ yr olds over a 3 month period, you could, say, expect an average of 150 months life left, so over 1.5 months average you’d expect 1 in 100 deaths by natural causes; if 1 in 5 people have a notable reaction then that is 1 in 500 dying, in line with what you have there.

      Always question statistics and look forward r context.

    3. That is worthless Without context and a description of what the terms used mean. For example, if that were for 70+ yr olds over a 3 month period, you could, say, expect an average of 150 months life left, so over 1.5 months average you’d expect 1 in 100 deaths by natural causes; if 1 in 5 people have a notable reaction then that is 1 in 500 dying, in line with what you have there.

      Always question statistics and look forward r context.

    4. I don’t understand how it can be deemed that the vaccine killed as many people. There are so many different circumstances involving the make up of human beings, even the varied autopsies would have been part of the problem in explaining such a guesstimate. It seems that most of the people who were deemed to have died from covid might have also been unstable enough to have died any way. Overall there were no more people dying in the UK than the usual amount.

        1. It made me really angry when the ubiquitous ‘They’ let all those ‘carers’ run around any where visiting, or working at care homes any where they were supposedly needed. Those elderly people were safer in those environments.

    5. That sounds about right from what I was reading early last week – over 1000 deaths and over 750,000 adverse reactions in the UK. Higher totals of course in the US. Why isn’t anybody out there doing something about this? There are three answers. One is there is too much money in it; two, it is what they want and three, to normalise this sort of thing within the population.

      1. People boasting about adverse reactions is beginning to get a bit like the Python Yorkshireman sketch. I’m waiting for, “He had his second jab and dropped dead…that shows it’s working”!

      1. I tried googling for that info and found only waffle, yet the figures shirley must exist?

        1. This comes with those figures that Rik’s post covers.
          https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting
          “Events with a fatal outcome
          Vaccination and surveillance of large populations means that, by chance, some people will experience and report a new illness or events in the days and weeks after vaccination. A high proportion of people vaccinated early in the vaccination campaign were very elderly, and/or had pre-existing medical conditions. Older age and chronic underlying illnesses make it more likely that coincidental adverse events will occur, especially given the millions of people vaccinated. It is therefore important that we carefully review these reports to distinguish possible side effects from illness that would have occurred irrespective of vaccination. Fatal cases associated with extremely rare blood clots with lowered platelets are described above.

          Part of our continuous analysis includes an evaluation of natural death rates over time, to determine if any specific trends or patterns are occurring that might indicate a vaccine safety concern. Based on age-stratified all-cause mortality in England and Wales taken from the Office for National Statistics death registrations, several thousand deaths are expected to have occurred, naturally, within 7 days of the many millions of doses of vaccines administered so far, mostly in the elderly.

          The MHRA has received 364 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 722 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca , 2 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 14 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. The majority of these reports were in elderly people or people with underlying illness. Usage of the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca has increased rapidly and as such, so has reporting of fatal events with a temporal association with vaccination however, this does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccine played a role in the death.

          A range of other isolated or series of reports of non-fatal, serious suspected ADRs have been reported. These all remain under continual review, including through analysis of expected rates in the absence of vaccine. There are currently no indications of specific patterns or rates of reporting that would suggest the vaccine has played a role.”

    7. How many “fatalities” were caused by being run over, falling from ladders….

    8. How many “fatalities” were caused by being run over, falling from ladders….

    9. In Israel as of yesterday 11/05/21 , 5,424,961 have received 1 dose & 5,083,894 have received 2 doses ( myself included ) with Zero fatalities
      Note : Pfizer is the vaccination used exclusively by us here in Israel.

    10. It is known that reactions are massively underreported via the yellow card system. Several medics have come out and said that their colleagues are barely aware of it, and don’t use it.

  66. As regards the title – if Labour cannot… then I would also ask the Conservatives the same thing. They do NOT stand for conservative values either.

  67. 332622+ up ticks,
    The lab/lib/con coalition have used it, abused it and plumb worn it out establishing a power base now look good getting rid of it, appease the herd.

    UK Govt to Mandate Voter ID in Elections as Police Investigate Fraud Allegations

  68. Will a Moderator please kindly tell me why I am no longer able to view any of the replies to my post from this morning about Spikey?

    He would love me to pass them on to him but I am unable to do so since it appears that all the replies have been removed!

    1. Are you sure?
      The original post is “featured”. If you sort by oldest you should find them there.

      1. Sorted both ways, Sos, they ain’t there anymore and I’m sure Spikey would appreciate all the kind thoughts.

    2. I can see that your post has 55 upticks. Can’t be far short of a record.

    4. Replies to posts in the ‘Featured’ banner at the top of the page can only be seen where those posts appear in the body of the forum.

      1. I had to switch among ‘best’, ‘oldest’ and ‘newest’ again and again, Tom, before they appeared. They seem to be sitting there on ‘newest’ (my favoured format) again right now.

        1. Good to know, sorry for the delay in responding as I had to go into Ipswich to collect my laptop, which has had the hard drive upgraded to 1Tb. Done quite quickly and £147 including parts and labour.

          Seems to be working a treat.

        1. Sorry Will, I missed your post when I was replying to Grizz, you get double bonus points for a correct answer but I win triple points for being the first to call out Snap!

    7. He’s seen them and liked them.

      Elf is right – the replies are below the original post.

  70. Social care is in the Queen’s speech again. Yet another facade. No-one wants to pay, demand is already crippling, demand will boom as Baby Boomers get really old and general taxation couldn’t fund it even before Covid reactions’ costs (£15,000 per taxpayer and rising). It’s political suicide – just ask Teresa May. Watch those moralising with “how we care for our elderly is the greatest hallmark of a civilised society” disappear when they’ve got their inheritance or are asked to put their hands in their pockets.

    Any ideas?

    1. Surely the meant HMQ to suggest it’s social care for illegals only
      I heard one of the gobby labour MPs s shouting about the lack of attention to climate change and the drastic lack of housing in the UK. Both in the same breath as well, surely she must realise that building housing in the UK (England of course) will increase the carbon foot print of the occupants from around zero (where they came from) to mega points above.

      1. Not to mention the inconvenient matter of creating urban hotspots (q v) by building on green fields.

        1. Bob, 90 is the new 60, at least it will be in a decade when the science of aging is better understood & countered by treatments ( at least for the rich & not us serfs )

    3. My idea is for the Government to butt out of anything to do with either Social Care or Education! What they should do is to is to allow people by tax relief etc, to look after themselves and those they care for. Government does not know best about anything!

        1. Afternoon Hatman. I don’t know what the figures are but I would imagine that a considerable majority of the working population live off the abilities of those who are productive. If this burden were eased the productive would prosper, and become more so, while the parasites would be forced to follow their example!

        1. Blunderers would be more accurate Nan. They do nothing well. Britain prospered and Conquered the World on the initiative of individuals!

        2. Government should butt out and let people who know what they are doing run the show (i e individuals).

  71. The Ballymurphy inquest has decided that the 10 people shot dead in Belfast by the army 50 years ago were innocent civilians. [The Independent.]

      1. Nah – they were going to the police station to give flowers to the RUC officers, whose work and protection they greatly respected.

    2. The coroner was bought and paid for by Sinn Féinn.

      That murdering bastard Gerry Adams once said “The IRA haven’t gone away” and he was telling the truth for once in his miserable life. The IRA are now the Establishment in Northern Ireland.

  72. Well. THAT was badly timed.
    Had a shower of rain over an hour ago and it eased off and looked as if it was going to stop.
    So guess which bloody idiot decided to nip into Cromford for the paper & a bit of shopping, getting soaked in the process as the heavens opened half way down?

    To add insult to injury, it’s stopped now and we’ve got bright sunshine!

    1. I had much the same scenario when I attempted another attack on the ground elder. Fortunately, I was within running distance (albeit slowly) of the house.

    1. “The 70-year-old is now being tipped as a potential challenger to Emmanuel Macron in the French presidential elections next year.”

      God help France if it boils down to a choice between those two.

          1. He has long had presidential ambitions. He may do no more than split the centre right vote – to the advantage of Mme Le Pen.

          2. That was my initial reaction, but I didn’t note it because I don’t think Le Pen can get enough votes to get it outright, can she?

          3. Toy Boy has tried to “unite” the centre right by doing a deal with Les Republicains. This will not go down well – and if Barmier stands, too, the hitherto firm centre-right will split. Mme Le Pen will be the beneficiary – since the left is ALWAYS split!

          4. MLP is well to the left of both B&M in terms of everything other than immigration, which people fail to appreciate. I doubt there are any real Conservative politicians in France, as I would recognise one.

          5. The French, however, at least in my experience, have believed all the “extrème droite” propaganda about Marine. In vain have I attempted to point out the left-wing policies the FN espouse.

      2. Ah! so he’s just lying until after the election when it will be business as usual then.
        Or else, he will valiantly rail against open EU borders when he is no longer in a position to do anything about it.

        1. He’s a creep.
          Full stop.
          And people like him will bring Western civilisation to a full stop.

  74. Suspect for the murder of that pseudo policewoman looks a ducky sort of fella.

    Mental ishoos, I expect.

    1. Is he the only one in the village who doesn’t have an alibi for the time in question?

      1. He looks like the chap whose photo appeared in the press a few days ago – and was said to have been ruled out…

        1. Well Bill I’m told one day that they don’t have a clue and then the next they arrest someone. This usually implies that they are fitting someone up!

          4. Apparently, George Davis was innocent of the robbery for which he was convicted in 1974. His conviction was eventually quashed in 2011.

            However, after his release in 1976 he resumed his criminal career and was jailed again on two separate occasions.
            Edit: Correction – the offence was committed in 1974, but he was convicted and jailed in 1975.

          6. GD was convicted for a robbery in 1974, but was released in 1976. The conviction was quashed in 2011.

            Something doesn’t make sense…

          7. He was released in 1976 by the Home Secretary, Roy Jenkins, using the Royal Prerogative of Mercy because of doubts over the evidence presented by the police which helped convict Davis (in other words, everybody knew the police had fitted him up). I don’t know why the Court of Appeal took so long to quash his conviction.

          8. Apparently, George Davis was innocent of the robbery for which he was convicted in 1974. His conviction was eventually quashed in 2011.

            However, after his release in 1976 he resumed his criminal career and was jailed again on two separate occasions.
            Edit: Correction – the offence was committed in 1974, but he was convicted and jailed in 1975.

          12. And Bill Stickers, his lawyers have made a fortune from the number of times that notices have been put up claiming that Bill Stickers will be prosecuted only to have the claim disproved !

  75. The green oak frame kit for an outbuilding I ordered months ago came today. I’ve been putting off delivery for a while, not fancying attempting to shift beams weighing 125kg while social distancing. However, just down the lane someone’s got the builders in putting up an extension, so I managed to borrow a brace of strapping brickies for a while, as well as my neighbour’s son, and a little help too from the delivery driver.

    I was well aware that I am double the age of everyone there, and probably triple the age of a couple of them. Grumpy old bloke with bowel trouble was the weak link, but all hands to the pump carrying these things 50 yards down the garden, while working out the logic of the numbering system and ended up just measuring distance between mortice joints to decide where and which way round each beam should go on site.

    They are nicely stacked now, so my next task is to get a few muscles so I can lift these things 4.5m in the air while not toppling the legs they are to be standing on, or even the legs I am standing on. Easy for a porridge-scoffing Highland Scotsman after a dram or two, and even one of the brickies was showing off carrying a 60kg post on his shoulders, but for me, I’ve got to wait until my spinach is harvested.

    1. Be careful of ladders…

      You may well find that, to assemble the thing, you will frequently need three or four hands.

      “Hold upright A14 tight against cross-strut B7 while tightening the nuts of the two bolts …which are just out of each…”

      1. The problem I have is that the genie lift, the scaffold tower and a fat old bloke with a sledgehammer have to occupy the same space at the same time.

        I am trying to make room by not having my Weetabix. I hit 100kg for the first time ever at the end of lockdown telly-slobbing and comfort-eating, but have managed to drop 5kg so far.

    2. Be careful of ladders…

      You may well find that, to assemble the thing, you will frequently need three or four hands.

      “Hold upright A14 tight against cross-strut B7 while tightening the nuts of the two bolts …which are just out of each…”

  76. My sincere condolences to Spikey (Fallick Alec) on Barbara’s death. Take comfort from the fact it was peaceful and she was deeply loved. It’s hard for those of us who are left to come to terms with the loss of a loved one, but try to concentrate on the good times. I raise a glass in her memory. Slainthe, Spikey.

    1. Me too, Spikey. I have only just come online today, but heard the sad news from a couple of NoTTLers, on the phone.

      Bless you, for having made the last part of Barbara’s life as good as you possibly could.

    3. 332622+ up ticks,
      O2O,
      All that’s happened is priti johnson has realised the incoming level has hit the RED zone and even the electorate will start to question the DOVER campaign so, ease up, let the herd settle.

    4. The Cheque is in the post
      ov course I’ll love you in the mornin’
      No, you do not look fat in that

      etc
      etc

    5. Hold your horses. We can already do that. They are NOT refugees. They are not asylum seekers.

      They are immigrants. Illegal immigrants.

      The law on refugees and asylum seekers is very clear. It’s not changed. Our leaving the EU doesn’t change that. It only applies to EU nationals. These are NOT EU nationals as if they were, France, germany et al would have previously processed them.

      2. 332622+ up ticks,
        W,
        They are coming in via the lab/lib/con governance parties, these parties are a close shop coalition, the electorate support the coalition via the polling booth regardless of any odious consequences that incurs, the coalitions policy is mass uncontrolled immigration, ongoing.

      1. 332622+ up ticks,
        Evening P,
        What the politico’s call stopping means in one specific area like say DOVER and transferring the new incoming reset party members to the wharf.

    8. I suggest that headline should read “Government makes yet another empty promise”

  78. Afternoon, all; the new, vinyl floor to the bathroom has been laid (by a nice 26 year old chap who really knew his job, because it was quite a tricky layout), so I have texted the electrician to ask when he can complete the temporary repair. Cue Flanders and Swann – ’twas on a Monday morning that the gasman came to call …

    1. Ah, the sheer genius of Flanders (no, not “Flannels”, autocarrot!) & Swann. Glad things are getting done!

  79. Could this oil pipeline shutdown in the USA be just another false flag as part of the great green reset?

    1. It looks genuine Bob! Biden is making emollient noises to Putin about it!

        1. No they aren’t, except to say the perpetrators probably come from there. Since the Ukraine business two weeks ago the entire anti-Putin/Russia rhetoric has been throttled back which supports my view that Vlad gave them the Gypsy’s Warning and they have heeded it!

  80. I see that BPAPM says that we should, “Continue to observe the one metre rule”.

    I have spent the last 13 months believing that one had to be TWO METRES apart.

    Did I miss something? (Quite possible given my failing brane).

    1. If I remember correctly, I think the rule was two metres, then changed to one metre if wearing a mask. But nobody (e.g. shops) took any notice of the one metre rule, sticking to their two-metre signs.

      1. Thank you. I don’t get out much! There are”2 metre” stickers all over the pavements in Fakenham.

  81. Live Coronavirus latest news: ‘People’s Vaccine’ protesters clash with police at AstraZeneca HQ

    Protesters and police have clashed outside AstraZeneca’s headquarters in Cambridge.

    The demonstrators blocked the entrance to the building in Hills Road accusing the pharmaceutical company of profiting during the pandemic and to demand the jab is licensed openly so it can be shared with the World Health Organisation (WHO).

    Masked activists were seen in videos chanting and beating drums and a banner unfurled at the site read: “We demand a people’s vaccine”.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-news-lockdown-end-pubs-indoors-covid-vaccine-cases/

    My understanding is that Astra Zeneca are providing the vaccine at cost, not making any profit. Shouldn’t the protesters be outside the offices of Pfizer etc., who are making a profit out of the sale of their vaccines?

    2. Masked activists were seen in videos chanting and beating drums…

      This would be Antifa in their Demo’s R Us role then?

  82. HAPPY HOUR – in your dreams….

    Experiencing a painful tooth and gum for several days I
    was lucky to get an app. with my NHS dentist this morning.
    After much prodding and poking around my mouth with hands the
    size of a prize boxer I was prescribed a course of antibiotics.

    After finding the escape route I returned home in need of a large
    sherry after my encounter with Dr. Mengele ….

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/da49b3e776606ade8cf5067a8ee1f7bccee2be2e790907a477c79684ae6a20a1.jpg

    2. About 4 years ago I was put on a course of antibiotics for 5 days for swollen gums & toothache, after the swelling went down I had several upper front teeth removed & partial dentures made. I believe my dentist from back then, now retired, is still on his yacht ( which I paid for ) cruising around the Greek islands.

      1. When I worked for a UK pharmaceutical company in the late ‘Sixties, the conventional wisdom was not less than 10 days for antibiotics; lesser courses were reckoned to encourage the emergence of resistant strains …

        1. We were told always to finish the prescribed course, even if feeling better, presumably for that reason

        2. My dentist prescribed only 5 days worth & its the 1st & only time I have had antibiotics – thankfully it worked, I saw him 8 days after I took the pills & by then the swelling had decreased & most of the pain had gone .

      2. I’m halfway through that exact same process now Elfie.
        Mine’s costing a pretty penny too.

        1. Dental care is all in private hands here, the 4 major healthcare providers only partially subsidize dental treatment & only if you pay the top tier of monthly healthcare insurance & then only at dental clinics associated with them.

      3. I could’ve bought a flippin car for what I’ve forked out for my teeth over the last few years! Worth it though.

    3. You are Wallace in need of some new teeth and a haircut.
      I claim my 8oz of stilton.

  83. That’s me for this day of two halves. OK in the morning – sunny and calm. Mid-afternoon – black skies – the heavens opened with yet another hailstorm – now it is bright sun.

    I have to take the MR for her second shot of Final Solution. I hope that she doesn’t pass out during the night, as she did first time round.

    A demain – I hope.

    1. Both my wife and I felt awful the day after having our first AstraZeneca jabs. Second jabs – no after-effects at all for either of us.

    3. Is your house on an artesian line? We had frequent, very localised hailstorms when we lived in a farmhouse to the north of Colchester.

      1. Gosh! I haven’t a clue. There are artisan cheese makers nearby…!!

        (A young person of our acquaintance once referred to a local “artesian” bakery – and the deliberate confused usage has become family argot!)

    1. Indeed.

      Hello, good evening and welcome.

      A lot of comments and zero upvotes, usually a good sign.
      I suspect that you will fit in well here, have fun.

  88. Many, many thanks to all you decent and lovely NoTTLers who have passed on your sincere condolences to our good friend, Spikey, at his time of sad loss. I thank you all for that; however, I am sure Spikey will tell you all how much this means to him when he is able to comment again.

    I have already informed him of the wonderful support he has on this forum.

    1. He certainly deserves our support, he has been very supportive of other Nottlers in difficult times.

          2. I can never get on with cider (with or without Rosie). Blowed if this road don’t seem bumpy; must have been that there Scrumpy!

          3. When I lived in Zummerzet, cider in the Charringtons pub, 100 yards up the road from my house, cost 1/3d a pint

            If I walked down to the free house (the Nags Head), a distance of about half a mile, Scrumpy was 1/- a pint

            So…. if I spent 5/- at the ‘local, it was four pints and a 100 yard walk home
            But…..If I went to the Nag’s Head, it was Five pints and a two mile, zig-zag walk home

        2. My grandfather was, neither my father nor I were.
          I suspect “Pa” was circumscribed.!

          1. Sometimes they ask you indirectly, and if you turn them down, that’s it, forever.

            It’s probably helpful for your career, but I was brought up to treat everyone equally, regardless of whether they happen to be disabled, poor, ugly, smelly, dark skinned, foreign, mentally ill or even a combination of those blessed attributes.

    4. Until yesterday, I had never heard of Angela Rayner.

      My query now is:If she loves these immigrants so much, why does she not move to a Muslim country?

      I cannot see anyone tryong to stop her….. well, apart from the Muslims

    1. When I was in college one could not get even close to the TV in the JCR, unless arriving at least half an hour beforehand.

      When HG and I were living on the outskirts of town we had a very ancient TV, B&W, and friends used to cycle out to watch that show.

      The TV eventually burst into flames, whether it was MP or its age, who knows!

  93. Sirens just went in Tel Aviv at 20:48 PM local time, I managed to see 5 or 6 Iron Dome interceptor missiles above where I live & heard about 7 explosions then 4 minutes later the sirens went again & heard more explosions slightly in the distance !

  94. Announcement from Fox TV “Prodigal Son cancelled after two series

    Emo Phillips: “Maybe it will come back”

    😊

  95. Sirens just went again for the 3rd time & I heard 2 loud booms. The earlier interceptor missiles crossed the sky from east to west ( I am in north east Tel Aviv ) & at least one Hamas rocket hit somewhere in Tel Aviv, the TV is showing black plumes of smoke but I can’t identify the area. Another 2 loud booms near me but I did not see the interceptors cross near us. In 2014 we had a lot of interceptions of Hamas rockets from an Iron dome battery stationed just north of Tel Aviv & another battery which which was located just south of Tel Aviv scored lots of successful intercepts. Sirens going again for the 4th time & at least 1 person injured in Tel Aviv & Hamas is claiming that they have launched 130 rockets at the Tel Aviv region ! More loud booms to the west of me, breaking off to watch live TV reports !

      1. The ruling Elites in the UK hate ordinary honest hard working heterosexual citizens & want them replaced with low IQ 3rd world mongrels

        1. Now that’s just silly.

          What they’re after is nowhere near such high quality.

        2. When I was growing up, in Coventry, there was a saying

          ‘You could recognise a person from the City, by the tilt of ther Shamrock in their Tturban’

          The IRA blew up a bank, the turban wearers worked (to start with with) peacefully in the factories. Later some pubs had colour bars, no whities.

          Who allowed it all to change

          Saudi Arabia does not ‘give in’ to immigrants and slavery still exists there.

          We need a leader, not a follower like wot Boros is

    2. Not to worry you.

      Is there any chance that all the Hamas fireworks are merely being sent over to exhaust the Iron Dome before much more serious stuff is about to arrive from elsewhere?
      I’m a ruthless bastard, it’s what I would do.

      1. The Iron Dome is just one of our layers of missile interceptors , The Arrow 1 intercepts long range missiles & the Arrow 2 long range stratospheric missiles, The Davids Sling intercepts medium to long range missiles, planes & drones, the Patriot pac-111 intercepts short to medium range missiles & planes & the Barak 8 naval ship to air missile & its land based equivalent can intercept planes, missiles & drones at longer ranges than the short range Iron dome system . The Iron dome is currently being upgraded to extend its range.

        2. PS I hope the Barak isn’t a misspelling of that bastard who would happily destroy you to help Iran.

          2. Obama is English for arsehole and it’s a common first wipe and also a source of AIDs to all in line.

        1. Much as I love the UK, that has to be the most rousing national anthem of them all.

          2. I do too.
            I think it’s splendid, and when we attend village functions and they sing it , I join in as best I can, much to the amusement of the locals.

            When we finish I apologise for my rendition, but they seem to accept that their pet eccentric Englishman is trying to meld.
            People speak ill of the French, but at the local level they cannot be kinder.

          3. I have always found that if you are prepared to speak French (or at least make the attempt) they warm to us.

          5. And in Normandy in particular, the older generation recognise that we helped liberate their region (whatever de Gaulle might have liked to claim). I had one old chap thank me for Britain’s contribution to getting rid of les Boches – we were, at the time, in a V1 rocket launching site that had been flattened by Lancasters.

          6. My wife was approached by an old lady who asked if she was English, and when it was confirmed the old lady stated that she could not thank the British enough for what we did.

            When the 2018 11 November service was held and Macron’s letter made no mention of the British we had people apologising about the little shit. It was quite embarrassing.

      1. Thanks Paul, but nowhere is safe nowadays, anywhere some crazy Jihadist with a knife or suicide vest or a Black gang banger can decide to attack.

          1. Its very difficult to get a firearms license but not impossible, however there are no restrictions on knife carry or pepper spray or electric shockers. I always carry a Gentleman’s knife in my pocket ( a Victorinox Pioneer or a Cadet ) & occasionally a larger OTF ( out the front ) spring loaded knife with a 3.5 inch blade but where I live is low crime & safe for women to be out on their own at nights.

          2. Hope you got through the night undamaged, Hat.
            Aftenposten here reports a lot of rockets fired in your direction, and that the IDF have flattened an apartment block that contained a Hamas office – after warning the residents to leave. Most impressive! And there’s to be hot air and hand-wringing by the UN today, so that’ll make it al better.

        2. I would be by more worried about mass vaccination of Pfizer and Moderna mRNA jabs in the State of Israel and the imposition of Covid passports than I would be bothered by the Palestinians and their ignorant Arab sponsors.

          Hamas and Hisbollah could not shoot down a potato placed on the summit of the Mount of Olives.

          1. I disagree with you completely. Firstly we only use Pfizers vaccine here in Israel , we returned the Moderna shipment for resale elsewhere ( I am fully vaccinated with no ill effects ) & Pfizers vaccine is around 99% effective in preventing infection from Covid-19, and those few people who got infected since receiving the 1st dose have not needed hospitalization and Zero deaths have been reported of people with even only one vaccination. Next, here in Israel we have not bought into the false propaganda spread by the Left using reverse psychology to get those on the Right to become anti-Vaxxers . The vaccine works & not to get it puts your life at risk, full stop. As for Arab terror groups like Hamas & Hezbollah, do not dismiss them as insignificant, they are heavily armed & very dangerous & have no moral compunction in committing acts of mass murder & are backed fully by Iran and until the insane Iranian regime is brought down there can be no permanent peace of any kind in the mid-east, sadly this is not likely to happen as the US, UK & EU are have been lead for decades by cowardly weak Globalists ( Trump was a blip on the radar ) who pander to the Islamo-Fascist regime in the same way that Chamberlin appeased Hitler in 1938 that lead to WW2.

          2. I respect your views and sympathise with you over the rocket attacks launched from Gaza. The ‘election’ of Biden with Kerry pulling strings has given rise to this renewed and intense activity.

            The jury is still out on mass vaccinations. I am not opposed to purposed vaccinations but these have been rushed and are not giving immunity but are gene therapies. I do not share your apparent faith in the Pharma industry.

            I disagree with you completely on vaccination passports and remain amazed that a religious group marked with yellow stars under the Third Reich would now submit to being marked in this way.

          4. If vaccine passports were applied to the UK, where many do not wish to take experimental jabs, the very idea and its application causes social division and necessarily relegates a part of society to second class citizenry.

            Who knows where this barbarity will end. Some are favoured and can do as they wish whilst others are impeded and given pariah status. We see this already with the ‘holier than thou’ haughtiness of neighbours who have been jabbed towards those who refuse the jabs. I am a case in point.

          5. Using reverse psychology the Left in the UK has turned the Right into anti-Vaxxers because they know that if they support something ( in this case vaccination ) then the Right in the UK will automatically be against it, they did this because they want as many as possible of you on the right to die & anti-vaccination sentiment on the right is strong & totally illogical !

            In Israel our Right wing government was correct in embracing vaccination & it is entirely voluntary here in Israel where the majority of the adult population have been willingly vaccinated & have suffered no vaccine related deaths or any serious negative reactions. By confusing personal liberty with peer pressure to vaccinate you are denying yourself the best available protection against Covid-19. Far better you should be demonstrating en mass in the streets to end 3rd world immigration to the UK & restore the right to own a licensed firearm, because only an armed people are a free people !

          6. I care nothing for political labelling and positioning. I have looked at the evidence and attempted to understand why it is thought necessary to jab the population of the world against a virus which is no no worse than a bad flu epidemic.

            For example, to devise unreliable tests which give the figures for infections desired by politicos, to enhance Covid death counts by bribery and to falsify the risks in order to cow populations. This has been a coordinated deception spread worldwide.

            I would implore you to undertake some basic research. There are many eminent scientists who disagree with the path taken by Fauci in the USA and our own Whitty, Vallance and Van Tam, a path evidently predestined by the Davos crew and Bill Gates.

            As matters stand I believe the immediate future of the world is threatened by a Biden White House. Biden’s policies are reversing every good thing that President Trump achieved, albeit under fire from Democrats throughout his term.

          7. If vaccine passports were applied to the UK, where many do not wish to take experimental jabs, the very idea and its application causes social division and necessarily relegates a part of society to second class citizenry.

            Who knows where this barbarity will end. Some are favoured and can do as they wish whilst others are impeded and given pariah status. We see this already with the ‘holier than thou’ haughtiness of neighbours who have been jabbed towards those who refuse the jabs. I am a case in point.

          8. If vaccine passports were applied to the UK, where many do not wish to take experimental jabs, the very idea and its application causes social division and necessarily relegates a part of society to second class citizenry.

            Who knows where this barbarity will end. Some are favoured and can do as they wish whilst others are impeded and given pariah status. We see this already with the ‘holier than thou’ haughtiness of neighbours who have been jabbed towards those who refuse the jabs. I am a case in point.

          10. I respect your views and sympathise with you over the rocket attacks launched from Gaza. The ‘election’ of Biden with Kerry pulling strings has given rise to this renewed and intense activity.

            The jury is still out on mass vaccinations. I am not opposed to purposed vaccinations but these have been rushed and are not giving immunity but are gene therapies. I do not share your apparent faith in the Pharma industry.

            I disagree with you completely on vaccination passports and remain amazed that a religious group marked with yellow stars under the Third Reich would now submit to being marked in this way.

  96. Of particular interest to corimmobile, perhaps, as we were talking a few days ago about the possibility of the covid jab being passed by the jabbed to other people.

    Search “Pfizer covid testing protocol” and you get a 144 page pdf document.
    Go to page 66, 67 to read the following (my bold type):

    “8.3.5. Exposure During Pregnancy or Breastfeeding, and Occupational Exposure
    Exposure to the study intervention under study during pregnancy or breastfeeding and
    occupational exposure are reportable to Pfizer Safety within 24 hours of investigator
    awareness.
    8.3.5.1. Exposure During Pregnancy
    An EDP occurs if:
    • A female participant is found to be pregnant while receiving or after discontinuing
    study intervention.
    • A male participant who is receiving or has discontinued study intervention exposes a
    female partner prior to or around the time of conception.
    • A female is found to be pregnant while being exposed or having been exposed to
    study intervention due to environmental exposure. Below are examples of
    environmental exposure during pregnancy:
    • A female family member or healthcare provider reports that she is pregnant after
    having been exposed to the study intervention by inhalation or skin contact    .

    A male family member or healthcare provider who has been exposed to the study
    intervention by inhalation or skin contact then exposes his female partner prior to
    or around the time of conception.
    The investigator must report EDP to Pfizer Safety within 24 hours of the investigator’s
    awareness, irrespective of whether an SAE has occurred. ”

    Craaaaaaap! I did nazi that coming! It certainly does imply that the spike proteins (?) or the components of the vaccine can be passed on by inhalation or skin contact.

    “who is receiving or has discontinued” – discontinued for how long? How long do people carry on spewing the stuff out?

    Now, common sense would suggest that Pfizer are bending over backwards to include every possibility however remote – but that’s still fairly shocking.
    Presumably these results apply similarly to the other vaxxes that are similar to Pfizer’s – what about the AstraZeneca type ones?

    2. I did read somewhere, bb2, that this phenomenon would go on for at least 40 days after injection. To be on the safe side I would say three months. ‘They’ always err on the side of optimistically too little. Does anyone know anything about Valneva, by the way, due out later this year? Said to be more like the traditional flu inoculations and without the mrna rubbish? It’s France’s contribution to the pool of vaccines.

      1. I thought traditional vaccines were not possible for coronaviruses, so whatever comes out will be something new?

        I saw a video where a doctor was talking about this phenomenon, and he said he has no idea how long it would last – maybe 40 days is plucked from the air?
        After all, the AZ spike proteins will stay in the body permanently.

      2. Pm, do you remember by any chance where you read the 40 days? My dearly beloved has had the Pfizer jab – and I do not want to have it. So this is of particular interest to me.

        1. I cannot remember offhand but I will have a look. I read so much stuff in the course of a day and although I take copies of a lot of the articles because you never know when it is going to be pulled from the web, I don’t copy everything. Some points I just commit to memory. I will get back to you if I find it.

        2. Whilst searching, I recall that our son’s wife had the Pfizer jab very early, when they were doing the elderly. She doesn’t have good health, she has multiple allergies and carries an epipen around with her. She also has an auto immune illness. Apart from a sore arm and a weekend in bed spent reading, she has been absolutely fine. She had her second jab two weeks ago. Our son has also kept well and has had no problems with illness at all. (Yet.)

    3. Am I reading bullet point 4 correctly? Is this an immaculate conception we are talking about here??

    4. Cynical me suggests that that is now the reason why we can all go out and hug each other and have our lovers to stay overnight…… so that we unwittingly provide the next wave to furtherance Lockdown lV. Followed by ADE and the cytokine storm later this winter. All will be blamed on the unvaccinated.

      India seems to have dropped out of the news overnight. Many in India did not know they had a problem. Funny, that.

      1. I predict two things:
        – the number of excess deaths will be high for 2021, and this will be blamed on covid and the health services neglecting other conditions
        – a lot of people will die this winter, and we will be told that there is a new and very deadly variant causing this, cure being to take the “booster” jab.

        -No information will ever be released about deaths in the jabbed vs unjabbed populations – which would appear anyway to be rather blurred.

        1. Up to a point.
          I don’t think that anyone will ever highlight just how badly the NHS/Government have let down the general non-covid population.

          1. That is widely acknowledged, the teflon government is just not accepting any blame for it. Act of God.

            I do not believe the vaccine damage will be acknowledged. And of course, we don’t know how great it will be. As far as I can see, it could be anything between barely noticeable to catastrophic.
            But the fact that two personal contacts known to me have reported people they know having heart attacks shortly after the jab does not inspire confidence.

          2. Oddly enough, one hears of far more adverse vaccine issues amongst people one knows than one does of Covid problems.

            On the downside, in my experience, those with bad Covid issues have tended to be worse than those with vaccination issues.

          3. In my contact circle, two people died of covid. So in this small sample, equal numbers.

            The vaccine shouldn’t be killing anyone!

        2. The ‘vaccination’ scheme is a diabolical crime against humanity.

          If you take the ‘vaccine’ you will become a super spreader of the virus simply because your symptoms of infection are suppressed whereas the virus is active within you and you will pass it to other ‘non-vaccinated’ persons.

          Of course as a ‘vaccinated’ person you are now highly susceptible to wild virus and millions of mutations. In addition your cockiness will enable your confidence and you will
          Infect anyone who comes into contact with you as you shed the viruses.

          It is the ‘vaccinated’ who now pose the greatest threat to the ‘unvaccinated’.

    5. Interesting comment. I have formed the opinion that mass jabbing of otherwise healthy people by the millions with some laboratory confection, in what are in fact ‘trials’, is both ethically and medically wrong.

      The jabs, all of them, are gene therapies. Some might pose greater dangers than others but they are all very dangerous.

      The problem of mass vaccination of populations with an untested trial therapy should be obvious to anyone with an understanding of virus transmission.

      If by ‘vaccination’ you alter the focus of the immune system on one particular virus you weaken the innate immune system to fight mutations of the virus and other viruses.

      The gamble is that the mutations will be combatted by new ‘vaccines’ whereas the reality is that the virus has already escaped and the vaccinated are permanently ‘disabled’ when a more infectious variant appears. Clearly, other viruses will have a field day because the ‘vaccine’ has seriously weakened the innate immune system.

    2. Or, merge it with The Repairers, call it “I’m sorry, I haven’t a glue”

    1. Was he on drugs, legal or illegal is the big question that will as usual, go unanswered.

      1. Our planes have been hitting targets in the Gaza Strip since yesterday but have had to abort many missions as the Hamas operatives are using women & children as human shields

        1. As I wrote yesterday, (more or less)

          “Hamas will be firing from schools and hospitals”

          You confirm what I expected.

          1. Back in 2014 one of them fired a rocket from his own balcony – it set fire to his flat & set off ammo he had stored on the floor in the lounge wounding most of his family .

          1. As a former squaddie, it always struck me as unusual that the “casualties” were carried roughly to an ambulance which conveniently turned up in front of the cameras. The the “casualty” would be heaved into the back and the vehicle would roar off with sirens blaring. No attempt to render first aid was made.
            And yet, our MSM still broadcast these images as fact. No wonder I ditched the TV and TV Licence many years ago.

  100. The Tories’ stonking super-majority is built on sand

    Johnson’s uneasy coalition between Red Wall voters and Tory libertarians may yet implode as spectacularly as the Labour Party

    SHERELLE JACOBS

    On the face of it, the Tories are sitting pretty. As Sir Keir Starmer flails and Labour staggers back into the political wilderness, ministers are predicting that Boris Johnson could beat even Margaret Thatcher’s 11-year reign. The Tories continue their remorseless advance into former socialist heartlands. New Labour’s traditional coalition – between “aspirational” suburban Mondeo man and liberal city-dwellers – seems incapable of recovering from the revelation that the former are Eurosceptic patriots. In contrast, the Tories are consolidating their new alliance between Red Wall towns and the shires.

    Brexit kindled a fiery emotional connection between these two groups, who are united in their antipathy towards wokeness and ambivalence towards city life. The Tories calculate that a new political dividing line between culturally conservative towns, and decadently liberal cities can keep the bond burning. The party seeks to help things along with a heated culture war and a levelling-up agenda focused on provincial rather than metropolitan aspiration.

    But the Tories should be as unnerved as they are elated by Labour’s implosion. Starmer’s fate shows the dangers of incoherent electoral alliances. Blair’s triumph was based on a marriage of convenience between groups that shared a desire to get on in a competently run country. It proved fragile in the face of developments like the financial crash, Brexit and the rise of liberal wokeness. And there are already signs that the new Tory electoral coalition is built on shakier foundations that it might appear.

    It may have escaped attention thanks to Labour’s messy collapse, and its even messier reshuffle, but in last week’s elections the Conservatives lost control of Cambridgeshire and fell into retreat in Oxfordshire, with the leader of the county council losing his seat. Majorities were squeezed by Labour and the Lib-Dems across the southern commuter belt, from Sussex to Surrey, while Labour made gains in the West of England.

    It’s tempting to write this off as part of the Brexit realignment, which gains like Hartlepool can make up for. But it is not clear whether there are enough Red Wall seats left unclaimed to counteract the longer-term trends that work against the Tories in their southern heartlands. The flight of Labour-leaning urban voters out of London to Tory safe seats is being accelerated by working-from-home. The graduate share of the population is rising, and fanning out across the country from London and university towns. Pitching itself as the party of non-metropolitans may seem like a non-brainer now. But as chichi towns become the new cities, such a tactic is a ticking time bomb.

    So is the Tory strategy to level up “left behind” towns. True, its ref that challenges the New Labourish focus on massive investment in northern metropolises and focuses instead on making it possible for people to thrive in the towns they grew up in. Hartlepudlians shouldn’t have to commute to Newcastle for work, just as Dudley, with its cheap land and science parks, has just as much potential as Birmingham to build enterprise hubs. People want to work and have families in their home towns. It is not everyone’s idea of progress that the whole country should come to look like London.

    Still, this analysis is only partially right. The Tories seem to have accepted the myth that cities and towns are locked in an economic battle, with urban areas raring ahead and “left behind” towns wallowing in dysfunctional backwardness. But the relationship between towns and cities is often symbiotic. As tech clusters take off in university cities, such as Bristol, Leeds, Manchester, and Oxford, they will provide work and bases for regional reskilling. Throwing billions at towns, with no real economic rationale, could merely result in a lot of wasted money.

    There is also something patronising about the assumption that Workington Man’s dream is to never leave his neighbourhood (and in the context of anti-travel green policies, downright menacing). There is something condescendingly sentimental, too, about the Tory fixation with reviving quaint Northern high streets, when many locals are content to turn them into housing estates while they carry on shopping on Amazon.

    The biggest problem with the new towns versus city dividing line is that it may simply prove inaccurate. True, the Tories’ non-urban base is united in their optimism, patriotism, and disdain for woke delinquency. Yet their profoundly contrasting responses to the pandemic suggests that freedom versus safetyism – rather than cities versus towns – may yet prove to be the great ideological dividing line to supplant socialism versus capitalism. In which case, the Tory coalition could prove just as vulnerable as Labour’s. Especially if the Conservatives write off city voters – such as the surprising number of shy Tories in London who voted against Sadiq Khan’s oppressively self-righteous virtue politics.

    The Conservatives may wager that they can just about hold things together come what may because their libertarian-Thatcherite core supporters – who have no alternative to vote for – will put up with anything. That would be foolish. A questionable Brexit deal, the rolling consequences of lockdowns, and Left-wing economic policies have left many lifelong Tories with the sense that they, not Workington Man, are the new “left behind” group in politics. Although parties such as Reclaim and Reform have become distracted by the one-issue culture war, eventually they may grasp the unique potential for a “freedom” party with a broader manifesto focusing on low taxation, and rolling back the Covid nanny state.

    Although Labour’s stunning collapse seems to more obviously parallel the Liberals’ demise during history’s last political realignment, Boris would also take care to remember the fate of his hero Churchill’s original party. At first the Liberals seemed to emerge the winners from the extension of the franchise, securing a thumping landslide in 1906; meanwhile the Tories were forced by Labour to retreat from the industrial cities to rural England. Still, within a few years, both the rural middle class and working-class city folk became disillusioned with the Liberals’ bland centrism in a time of vivid change. The tectonic plates shifted and they fell between the cracks. They haven’t been able to climb out since. The Tories should be careful not to make the same mistake.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/05/10/tories-stonking-super-majority-built-sand/

    I thought Thatcher long ago turned the “aspirational” suburban Mondeo man to the Tories…

    And Cambridgeshire is becoming Greater Cambridge, an outpost of Woke City.

    1. The (Con) leader of Shropshire County Council lost his seat. The Cons still hold control, but the writing is on the wall. Oswestry went Green.

          1. Green.. until there is no fuel for THEIR cars

            Then it is crack down on the LSM (long Suffering Masses)

    3. 332622+ up ticks,
      Evening WS,
      What will shake the lab/lib/con coalition to its very treacherous core is when the fast building hidden element takes a hand.

      Currently the biggest danger of ALL is NOT being faced only appeased

      They are prepared to give it house room in parliament & halal fodder in the parliamentary canteen.

      The sh!te will really hit the fan with the opening words of the imam, “this is the way things are going to be in the future”

    1. I have just finished a telephone call with a friend who lives about five miles away – I could hear the thunder over the phone! It hasn’t reached here yet.

      2. We had friends from England visit us here in Richmond, VA.
        We ended up under a highway bridge sheltering from rain while vising a park in the James River. The bridge crosses the river there. Horizontal rain blowing by at about 30 miles per hour.
        With lightening and thunder.
        10 minutes…it was gone.
        One friend: “Um…we don’t get weather like this in London.”

        Hmm….looks like you do. THAT’s a lot rain.

          1. Oh..we were fine. Typical US thunderstorm. Just didn’t want to get wet.

    3. The first bit of singing/music, that I have enjoyed (and it made me smile too) for a very long time

      Thanks Hat

      May your God go with you

  105. And it’s a good night from me.
    Looks like the storm has shifted over to Chesterfield now.

  106. A husband and wife had a stonking great row over TV viewing.
    In a fit of extreme anger the wife turned off the telly and went upstairs to bed.
    The husband turned the telly back on to watch the footie…………..alas

    No woman no Sky….

    With apologies to Bob Marley…..

  107. Tim Stanley offers a rather different perspective from Sherelle Jacobs. The Darwin story to which he refers is below.

    Paul Mason is becoming a national treasure. Someone should tell him that if the UK were the fascistic state that he thinks it is, he would have been made to accidentally disappear by now.

    It shouldn’t be a shock to the Left-wing media that people vote Tory

    The broadcast media and the cultural elite continue to exist in an echo chamber detached from the public

    TIM STANLEY

    I think Boris can safely re-tile the kitchen now. Much of the broadcast media was convinced his No 10 makeover would hurt him in last Thursday’s elections: we weren’t far off a Newsnight reconstruction with Lewis Goodall, dressed as Carrie, running around an animated John Lewis with a can of petrol. But the mood on Have I Got News for You on Friday, recorded when the votes weren’t counted but obvious nevertheless, was funereal. Why, the host asked, didn’t Wallpapergate cut through? Given that this show created the Boris phenomenon, much like The Apprentice invented Donald Trump, the confusion is strange.

    Have I Got News is a microcosm. Hip when it started in 1990, anti-establishment and witty, it now creaks on as an uncancellable institution, the echo chamber for a cultural elite that is powerful yet not in power and magnificently out of touch. You could not tell from the TV or t’internet zeitgeist that the Tories were going to win Hartlepool, and journalists looked suicidal when they did. Social media fell out of the sky like a rocket made in China. I was reminded of Paul Mason’s verdict on the 2019 general election: a “victory of the old over the young”, he tweeted gracefully, of “racists over people of colour, selfishness over the planet”. No doubt the nurse gently touched his arm and said: “And what planet do you think you’re on right now, dear?”

    He’s not even on the distant moon of London, where we were told Count Binface, a joke, woke candidate with zero laughs, would surge in the mayoral race and Shaun Bailey, a black Tory candidate, was a bigot that Londoners would reject. Binface got 1 per cent; Bailey, in the second round, 45 per cent.

    The Green Party’s Sian Berry said she wanted to make London the most “trans-inclusive” place in the world, thus adding the capital’s tiny trans community to her rainbow coalition of 7.8 per cent, just 91.2 per cent off the 99 per cent socialists claim to speak for. Trans people pay tax and get burgled, too; you might want to talk more about that. Or stick to green stuff! But the Left, which feels every bit as culturally alienated as the dissident Right, betrays its abiding concerns every time it sinks to its knee, recommitting itself to a culture war – a very old-fashioned war that began around the time Have I Got News started – that in some quarters it has already won and in others doesn’t amount to a hill of beans. Laurence Fox, the anti-woke candidate got just 1.9 per cent of the vote in London. He finished behind a YouTube star whose most interesting policy was to freeze the Thames to create an ice rink.

    The beat goes on. Someone at Sheffield University says Darwin justified white supremacy. A school has reported its own chaplain to an anti-terror unit. And among the stories on the BBC website, at the time of writing, is a 23-year-old girl who has come out as asexual. How many elections must the Left lose – how many viewers, how many readers? – before the penny drops that many people find all this irrelevant? Or that when they vote Tory, it’s not because they don’t care about standards in public life, but that they can’t see the scandal in this instance?

    And far from being a bunch of little Hitlers, they are drawn to a Tory party that has cleverly occupied the centre ground of cultural feeling, a centre ground, incidentally, that is much more liberal than it once was. Just not completely bonkers.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/10/shouldnt-shock-left-wing-media-people-vote-tory/

    Charles Darwin’s theory of natural selection ‘justified white male superiority’

    A Sheffield University guide says ‘whiteness and Eurocentrism of our science’ must be dismantled

    By Ewan Somerville

    Charles Darwin is among “highly celebrated scientific figures” who “held racist views” because he used his theory of natural selection to justify white male superiority, according to a new university’s handbook for teaching and research.

    The renowned naturalist is on a list of 11 feted scientists whose views “influenced the type of research they carried out and how they interpreted their data”, according to Sheffield University’s guide drawn up to decolonise the biology curriculum.

    This is despite Darwin’s fervent support for the abolition of slavery, which he called a “sacred cause”, unlike many of his contemporaries. He said of slavery that “it makes one’s blood boil”.

    The handbook, seen by The Telegraph, tells students and lecturers that he must be historically caveated when lecturers teach his seminal theory of evolution.

    Historians told The Telegraph that Sheffield’s guidelines were “unhistorical and misleading” and “authoritarian”.

    The Russell Group university has also told science students and lecturers in the guidance to drop the terms “founding father”, “idols” and “geniuses” to avoid “hero worshipping” scientific figures.

    This practice treats them as “white saviours” and erases less privileged scholars, it explains. Drawn up by lecturers in the Animal and Plant Sciences faculty, the guide says “whiteness and Eurocentrism of our science” must be dismantled.

    “It is clear that science cannot be objective and apolitical,” it adds, and “the curriculum we teach must acknowledge how colonialism has shaped the field of evolutionary biology and how evolutionary biologists think today”.

    Darwin published the ground-breaking theory of evolution by natural selection with his work ‘On the Origin of Species’ in 1859, widely viewed as the core of evolutionary biology.

    Central to it is the concept of ‘survival of the fittest’, where species with physical characteristics best adapted to their environment are most likely to reproduce and pass on those traits, which are then refined and adapted further.

    According to Sheffield’s decolonised curriculum, Mr Darwin “believed that his renowned theory of natural selection justified the view that the white race was superior to others, and used his theory of sexual selection to justify why women were clearly inferior to men.”

    It says his voyage on HMS Beagle, when he collected plant and animal samples, was to map colonies.

    But Prof James Moore, a biographer of Darwin and historian of science, told The Telegraph: “Almost everyone in Darwin’s day was ‘racist’ in 21st century terms, not only scientists and naturalists but even anti-slavery campaigners and abolitionists.

    “What set his ‘racism’ apart – and makes him more like us today – was his profound conviction that all the human races are ‘family’, sisters and brothers.

    “Darwin’s wokeness was most obvious in his maintaining the full common humanity and unity of the races in the face of a rising anthropology that insisted the races were in fact separately originated and unrelated species, thus offering justification of atrocities that Darwin is now blamed for.”

    Prof Nigel Biggar, an Oxford historian, added: “During Darwin’s lifetime the British Empire was busy emancipating slaves across the world.

    “The ‘decolonising’ assumption that ‘colonial mapping’ was all about oppression is false, and the judgement that Darwin should be damned by association is morally stupid.

    “Before propagating this ideology, did Sheffield University secure the consent of academic staff, and does it now allow for conscientious objection? If not, its conduct is authoritarian and arguably a violation of academic freedom.”

    The latest move to decolonise the sciences and maths follows plans to diversify Sheffield’s engineering degrees, leaked to The Telegraph, taking aim at Sir Isaac Newton as a potential beneficiary of “colonial-era activity” whose rule of gravity requires context.

    Other scientists named in the handbook, titled “Applying a decolonial framework to teaching and research in ecology and evolution”, include DNA discoverer James Watson and Swedish botanist Carl Linnaeus.

    The universities minister, Michelle Donelan, has previously warned that campuses risk mirroring the Soviet Union by “censoring history” with decolonising efforts.

    A University of Sheffield spokesman said: “We are not removing key historical figures from our curriculum, but we are adding those who have also made significant contributions to the fields of maths, science and engineering that are not currently represented.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/08/charles-darwins-theory-natural-selection-justified-white-male/

    1. The problem now, is that for Natural Selection you must be pro

      Woke
      BLM
      BBC
      LGBTRTYU
      Liebore
      Green
      Garudian
      NUT (an apt abbeviation)
      Anti Mr Trump\
      Islam
      Uncontrolled immigration

      etc

      Otherwise YOU are a Waycist

      1. I am only two of those, and haven’t a clue what a Waycist is.

        My main objection to Mr Trump is the company he keeps abroad, and who he decides to betray, not that he’s too damned American to be a valid POTUS.

      1. 332622+ up ticks,
        Evening R,
        You cannot fault the lab/lib/con coalition supporters & voters
        they have done their bit, their appeasement alone was a sight to behold.

  110. Loadsa comments to catch up on but I’m very tired so I’ll say Good night, Gentlefolk and God bless.

    1. Oh noes!
      Here, scuba diving would be more appropriate.
      Morning, Bob.

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