Tuesday 26 August: Why Lucy Connolly should not be considered a martyr for free speech

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538 thoughts on “Tuesday 26 August: Why Lucy Connolly should not be considered a martyr for free speech

  1. Good morning chums. And thanks, Geoff, for today's new NoTTLe page. Only just made today's Wordle, with help from Tips.

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  2. Good morning all.
    A pleasant 15¯C outside just now but the bright start with scattered cloud has rather quickly turned to a dull grey overcast.
    Again, no discernible wind.

    BTL Comment:-

    R. Spowart
    3 min ago
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    What Lucy Connolly said was emotional hyperbole that expressed her feelings at what had just happened.

    It did not directly encourage people to go and set fire to migrant hotels, merely stated that she would not care if they did.

    Did add to the debate?

    I would say YES because it made people aware of how high people's feelings were running after such an appalling and horrendous event.

    1. Good Moaning, O Feller of Trees and Mixer of Concrete.
      It also opened the eyes of millions of Britons to the hatred the government harbours towards this country and its people.

    2. Lucy Connolly was jailed because the state was embarrassed and humiiliated. It's desperate media blanket had utterly failed, it's institutions had failed and one of it's favourite sons – Whassisface kabana – had killed children and the proles hadn't just accepted it and chanted kumbyah as they were told to, then gone home with kabana also getting let off.

      It would have to do something. It would have to respond. And it did, with the only thing Leftists understand: force, but not against kabana, oh no. Not against the problem big state had caused but against the decent people rejecting the state line.

      The proles had to be put down again because they weren't doing as they were told. That's why Connolly was jailed: to punish the citizen with a 'this is what happens if you don't obey and accept muslim savages killing you. We will destroy you.'

    1. The lizard one is astonishing. Is there a sort of rolling board beneath them?

      As for the dindu picture – why didn't he stay in France – or any other the dozen perfectly safe countries around his own he could have? Like all such dross, they want the freebies we spew out.

    1. Well, i am looking forward to reading all about it in The Terriblegraph. It did a great job on yesterday’s Notting Hill Carnival.

  3. I see that Rayner has been in the news a lot this weekend and not in a good way.
    I personally wish her well on her property ladders, if she can afford it.
    One thing that it does prove though.
    The drip down theory is obviously working well for the working class, despite the Left constantly denying it.
    Just wondering now if the reason for her bad press coverage is because she is looking at blocking Mayor Khan from becoming an MP while he is still Mayor.

    1. Raynor is, of course, allowed to buy whatever she likes with her own money. However how id she afford this? She already has another mortgage on a property she proclaims to not live in (and jumped up the housing ladder to get, in a screaming act of nepotistic abuse). She will not have a job in 3 years time. She has never earned even close to monies able to buy this property.

      In a just world, she would have been refused point blank yet there the hypocrite is, troughing away.

      It stinks of corruption and fraud, like everything Leftist.

      1. Remember Glib and Oily Mandelson's undisclosed loan from Geoffrey Robertson of £373,000?

        I wonder if Raynor has an undisclosed sugar daddy who is her secret admirer?

    1. 🤣🤣🤣 Ah, Anne, you do have a way with words! Thanks for starring off me morning with a good laugh. x

  4. Rumour has it that there has been a ban on press coverage of the Notting Hill Carnival.

    I bet they called the initiative Operation Nothing Ill

    1. Would never have believed that until recently, where anything repressive seems possible in the UKSSR.

  5. Morning, all Y'all. Sunny & chilly again, rain promised for the rest of the week.
    Builders rubble collected 07:00 today, and now sitting in horsepicle cafe with coffee, waiting for pacemaker check.

          1. I suggested a wireless charger, but the nurse asked how that would go with the replacement market and those that earn lots of money from it…

  6. Interesting that there were 35 face-scanning arrests on approaches to the Notting Hill Carnival event as police roll out their China software equipment at every transport hub.

    Facial recognition in China 'spot on', say Metropolitan Police Federation
    The chairman of the Met Police staff association said the "fantastic" technology could be used to catch..
    faaaaar right protesters and social media terrorists..

    1. More than ten years ago, one of my children was standing next to someone who was suddenly arrested without having done anything in the centre of a European city.
      They've had facial recognition and AI for far longer than they are admitting.

  7. Interesting that there were 35 face-scanning arrests on approaches to the Notting Hill Carnival event as police roll out their China software equipment at every transport hub.

    Facial recognition in China 'spot on', say Metropolitan Police Federation
    The chairman of the Met Police staff association said the "fantastic" technology could be used to catch..
    faaaaar right protesters and social media terrorists..

  8. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/25/what-depopulation-looks-like-my-home-town-warning-west/

    A big piece of the puzzle is depopulation. If politicians want to win back such regions, they need to start discussing demography in a way that goes beyond insisting on immigration as the only solution. If they don’t, they leave populist actors with a political monopoly on existential fears.

    I confess I don't really understand this beyond 'gimmigrants overrunning your country mankes people angry' but that's bally obvious.

    What is this 'populism' statists are so frightened of? The population wanting something? It's just another way Leftists attempt to demonise normality (democracy) to deride and insult what people want.

  9. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/25/what-depopulation-looks-like-my-home-town-warning-west/

    A big piece of the puzzle is depopulation. If politicians want to win back such regions, they need to start discussing demography in a way that goes beyond insisting on immigration as the only solution. If they don’t, they leave populist actors with a political monopoly on existential fears.

    I confess I don't really understand this beyond 'gimmigrants overrunning your country mankes people angry' but that's bally obvious.

    What is this 'populism' statists are so frightened of? The population wanting something? It's just another way Leftists attempt to demonise normality (democracy) to deride and insult what people want.

    1. Someone who has already been on a “reality” show and is probably a “black and brown” person. As i avoid both like the plague now, i have no idea.

    2. She is referring to a:
      former OnlyFans 'model' who revealed all for $..
      someone who is actually quite polite in real life..
      who candidly admitted to Carl Benjamin it's all fake.. the hatred towards Britain, it's just a grifting job..
      the more I grift.. the more jobs I get on BBC ITV Sky.. the more $..
      the more outrageous the statement the more famous i become..

      her name is Narinder Kaur.

      1. A race-baiter, engagement farmer, best ignored as she becomes ever more shrill in her desperation to appear relevant. Just like the fake churnalist Femi, both aggravate on the hope of appearance fees on the likes of the Jeremy Whine show. The shallow end of the gene pool.

      2. Sorry, I had started looking for information and pictures of this repulsive woman before your post went up.

        She used to appear on GBNews but not very recently.

  10. 411854 up ticks,

    Morning Each,
    1914 /18 was the first great
    cull followed by 1939 / 45 the second, along with various topping up intermediates, so let us witness the progress made in going forward as a nation via the polling stations.
    Benefit to the Country was 24/6/2016 when we voted in freedom from the eu incarceration camp.
    Short lived till treachery in earnest set in as the 48 percenters reverse Brexit gained traction via the lab/lib/con pro eu coalition.

    Progress to date is clearly shown within our capital city.

    https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1960060297626202532

    1. 411854+ up ticks,

      O2O,
      Can we move our Capital to Birmingham you ask,
      On health & safety warnings I believe you have to wear hazmat suits, NON ISSUE as it would be a reverse culling move.

      Answer.it would be a fryingpan / fire move.

    2. Every opportunity Brexit offered has been refused, turned down and spurned. The entire state machine is dedicated to forcing a declinist agenda where our standard of life is lower than ever.

      1. If Farage had had it in him to be a proper instigator of Brexit he would have contested all Conservative held seats in the 2019 general election. Instead he weakly capitulated to Johnson and got nothing in return for not even contesting the seats held by the most determined Conservative Remainers. The consequence was the surrender deal of 2020 in which the sovereignty of Northern Ireland and British fishing were betrayed and this was only the beginning of the total sell out eagerly followed by Sunak and Starmer.

        And if Boris Johnson had had any testicular strength he would have suspended Philip Hammond, David Gauke, Dominic Grieve, Ken Clarke and Sir Oliver Letwin from the Conservative Party before the 2019 election.

        1. Arguably May should have one (the latter elements) during her negotiations. She didn't.

          She was fighting for her political career far more than for Brexit though.

  11. Morning All 🙂😊
    Broken cloud 12 c no rain yet….
    Busy day, have fun slayders. 😉🤗

  12. Well, so far we've gone from bright with scattered cloud to heavy overcast, light rain and now bright sun with overcast and blue patches!

  13. Churchill inspires new Land Rover Defender
    British carmaker to sell 10 vehicles based on wartime prime minister’s Series I for over £200k

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/26/defender-model-winston-churchill-land-rover-unveiled/

    BTL

    I belong to the era when the Land Rover was a landowner's or farmer's working vehicle and not a ponsified luxury car for the socially pretentious.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1f6aa5e43f0e1f9eef1ce27ec2460892e7dc65552666ddfdc31bc14a1c9603bd.png

  14. Do we defend the realm or capitulate to insurgents?

    If Lucy Connolly got 31 months imprisonment — for her anguished cry for state security — I wonder what sentence a modern court would have imposed on others who took a far more pragmatic approach to the defence of the realm?

    In particular I can think of Sir Francis Drake and Sir Winston Churchill among many others.

  15. Good morning, 17°C, breezy and cloudy with a chance of damp on the Costa Clyde.

  16. Jack Buntis
    4h
    Civil Service, cops, local authorities, judiciary, Unions, Wokery establishment et al will thwart this at every turn.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/78c8624562864dabf8dc72544415a06ab90eba761b45b61e79b509ca743a6439.png
    Beebsplaining
    5h
    A quisling remoaner tory on the payroll of labour speaks🙄 tory never again😡 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/211772482ff3457e56c297ecbbdfd826f44575e934985e37bf584036e50acc5a.png
    Edmund Waller
    Beebsplaining
    4h
    I wonder if Monsieur Remoaner ever considered whether he was traversing any common laws when he was defying the referendum result?

    Rick B
    Beebsplaining
    4h
    Wartime nostalgia buff.
    Sees himself as a Frenchman collaborating with Germans against the British.
    Whatever the maximum sentence for treason is, he should be getting it.

    1. Grieve is perhaps right. I don't think Farage has the faintest idea how to fight the state to get what he wants.

    2. This disgusting man, Dominic Grieve, should have been thrown out of the Conservative Party before the 2019 general election as he was determined to wreck Brexit from the very beginning.

      In addition if he had believed in Brexit Johnson would also have suspended Philip Hammond, David Gauke, Ken Clarke and Sir Oliver Letwin from the Conservative Party at the same time.

      [I know that this is a subjective gut reaction but there is something physically repulsive about oleaginous Grieve. The mere thought of touching him or being touched by him sends shivers of revulsion down my spine]

    3. M Grieve, IIRC, is half-French, is married to a French functionary and their children are almost certainly French passport holders.
      I admire the Australian policy of excluding all dual-nationals from serving as their Members of Parliament.
      Choose to be Australian, or foreign, but not both simultaneously.

      1. I was very impressed when I was in Oz by how they promoted "100% Australian owned". We should do the same – oh, wait …

    4. M Grieve, IIRC, is half-French, is married to a French functionary and their children are almost certainly French passport holders.
      I admire the Australian policy of excluding all dual-nationals from serving as their Members of Parliament.
      Choose to be Australian, or foreign, but not both simultaneously.

    1. 411854+ up ticks,

      Morning C1,

      Courtesy of the English electorate you have a second chance adolf.

  17. Michael Deacon
    Keir Starmer thinks voters are idiots – and here’s the proof

    The PM raised the cap on bus fares – yet boasts that he’s made them cheaper. How daft does he think we are?

    Diane Abbott must be feeling terribly hard done by. Back in 2017, when she was Jeremy Corbyn’s shadow home secretary, she was widely ridiculed for announcing in a live radio interview that a Labour government would recruit 10,000 police officers at a cost of “about £300,000”. As her interviewer pointed out, this would give each of her new officers a salary of just £30 a year.

    In hindsight, however, I wonder whether we were all a little harsh on poor Ms Abbott. Because it’s now clear that there’s a politician with an even shakier grasp of arithmetic. And he’s the one running the country.

    On Saturday, Sir Keir Starmer boasted that his Government had made it “cheaper” to travel by bus. “The £3 bus fare cap,” he declared, “has already cut costs for families.”

    A curious claim. Because, under the previous Conservative government, the bus fare cap was £2. It only became £3 at the start of this year, under Labour.

    Now, I’m no Alan Turing. But, when I was at school, I’m fairly sure that three was generally considered to be a larger number than two. Admittedly, of course, that was a long time ago, and there have been many changes to the curriculum since then. Perhaps nowadays, in line with some characteristically bold educational reforms from Labour, primary school teachers stand in front of the class and say: “Right, children, today we’re going to learn about counting. Repeat after me. One, three, two, four, five…”

    If so, it’s a good thing that Michael Jackson is no longer around. Otherwise he’d have to sing, “ABC – easy as one, three, two.” Which would completely ruin the rhyme.

    Still, regardless of what’s going on in the nation’s primary schools, voters are bound to wonder how the Prime Minister can claim that he’s made it cheaper to travel by bus, after raising the fare cap by 50 per cent. Having thoroughly appraised this perplexing mathematical conundrum, many will doubtless conclude that there’s only one possible explanation: the man’s a shameless liar who thinks we’re all idiots.

    But wait. Not so fast. Technically, Sir Keir is not lying. Look very carefully at his choice of words. He said the £3 bus fare cap had “cut costs for families”. And if you think about it, that may actually be true.

    After all, if raising the cap means that families can no longer afford to catch the bus to the shops, and are thus forced to walk instead, then they have, in effect, saved money – because they’ve spent nothing on bus fares. And if the shops are too far away for them to walk, and therefore they don’t go to the shops at all, they’ve saved even more money, because they haven’t bought anything. Which means that their costs have indeed been cut.

    So maybe that’s what Sir Keir meant. All the same, I probably wouldn’t make it the central message of his next election campaign.

    “Labour: Making You Richer By Making You Poorer.”

    Atlas shrugged
    Why is much of Africa still so gravely beset by poverty? There are various theories. But here’s one I’d never heard before.

    It’s all our maps’ fault.

    African nations, reports the Telegraph, have complained that world maps cruelly downplay their continent’s “geopolitical and economic significance” – because they make Africa appear to be smaller than it really is. Jervin Naidoo, a political analyst at Oxford Analytics, said: “The distorted representation of Africa’s size could lead to an underestimation of the continent’s vast economic potential. By accurately depicting Africa’s true scale, the campaign aims to reshape global perceptions, encouraging more informed investment decisions.”

    It’s a fascinating thought. None the less, I do wonder how much difference it would really make. Redrawing our maps might well make them more accurate. But I’m not sure why it would lead to greater foreign investment in Africa. I mean, everyone already knows it’s there. Drawing it a bit bigger is unlikely to make the chief executives of global corporations exclaim: “I say! What’s this mysterious new landmass in the middle of the map? ‘Africa’? Why, I had no idea such a place even existed. How incredible that, in the 21st century, mankind is still discovering brand new continents! Tell you what – I’ll bet it’s absolutely bursting with precious natural resources. Quick, let’s go and colonise it, before anyone else gets there!”

    On the whole, therefore, I fear the plan is doomed to disappointment. Still, we shouldn’t knock it before it’s been tried. For all we know, Rachel Reeves is at this very moment on the phone to the publishers of Collins World Atlas, begging them to make Britain look bigger, too.

    “Come on, you’ve got loads of room. Half the page is just empty blue space…”
    *********************************************

    Fried Green Tomatoes
    3 hrs ago
    It’s just one example of the constant lying and gaslighting by the PM and the rest of this government. I don’t know why they are not being held to account. They are blatant liars and it’s time the other politicians stated that.

    James Williams
    2 hrs ago
    We've stabalised the economy. We will save you £300 on your energy bills. We are fixing the foundations. We are putting more money in the pockets of working people. We've had 3 interest rate cuts since we've come to power. We are cleaning up the Tory mess and smashing the gangs. We are reducing the asylum backlog and number or hotels. We are cutting NHS waiting lists. Lies lies and more lies I tell you.

    1. The sad thing is, Starmer thinks it's clever spin.

      Why is Africa still poor? Because we keep giving them money.

    2. It was Bob Monkhouse, who once fronted a show where the lady, Anne Aston, working out the score had no grasp of arithmetic, and the show would descend into even more chaos in which Monkhouse himself thrived. He loved the show and kept videos of every episode. He never sacked his innumerate assistant but remarked that if she lifted up her shirt, she managed to count to two.

    1. Sadly, last year I resigned my membership after having been a supporter of the RNLI for over 50 years

        1. I used cross channel ferries a lot when serving in the Army. I made frequent donations to the RNLI. No longer.

    1. Yes. I can't get the clip to work. The Spartans takee turns to stand up and say "I love bacon"

  18. How Israel's critics disregard its history

    SIR – Mary Shields (Letters, August 25) compares the size of Israel today with when it was created in 1948, and says "more and more land has been taken from the Palestinian people".

    She forgets to mention that, when Israel was established, it was attacked by Egypt, Transjordan, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq. When the fighting ended, Israel controlled some 78 per cent of the former Mandatory Palestine, compared with the 55 per cent it had been allocated originally. This temporary situation was codified in the 1949 armistice agreements with Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon and Syria.

    Until the Six Day War of 1967, Jordan occupied the West Bank and East Jerusalem, and Egypt occupied the Gaza Strip. They could have created a sovereign state of Palestine. Neither made any attempt to do so.

    In 1967 Egypt, Jordan and Syria planned a joint military attack on Israel, which Israel foiled. In doing so, it ousted Egypt from the Sinai Peninsula and the Gaza Strip, Jordan from the West Bank and East Jerusalem, and Syria from the Golan Heights. Later, the Sinai Peninsula was returned to Egypt following the 1978 Camp David Accords.

    Under the Oslo Accords in 1993 and 1995, the administration of the West Bank was shared between the Palestinian Authority and Israel as a temporary measure awaiting a final agreement. That never came, as the Palestinian leadership rejected every attempt to realise a two-state solution – and there were many, some offering land swaps to compensate for obtrusive Israeli settlements.

    The obvious conclusion is that the Palestinian cause does not seek, and has never sought, a two-state solution, but the elimination of the state of Israel.

    Neville Teller
    Beit Shemesh, Israel

    1. Israel has offered them the land as a home nation. muslim keeps rejecting it.

      Sadly, their intent has nothing to do with establishing a nation. It's about killing the one they hate.

      1. The ONE they hate? Jewish people are merely the cherry on top of the muslim Bloody Sundae.

    2. Libtards and Leftards aren’t known for their historical knowledge. Otherwise they wouldn’t be Libtards and Leftards.

      For heaven’s sale, the latest invasion of Israel only took place on 7 October 2023 and within one day they had forgotten why Israel had declared war on Gaza.

  19. English flag protests 'intimidating' residents, council leader says

    Far-Right groups accused of hijacking campaign displaying St George's Cross across the country

    Albert Tait
    22 August 2025, 5:42pm BST

    A protest movement that is hanging up English flags in public is "intimidating" residents, a Liberal Democrat council leader has said.

    Nick Ireland, the leader of Dorset council, claimed the flag had been "co-opted by certain far-Right groups to promote their agendas".

    The councillor's remarks come amid a growing movement that has seen members of the public display patriotic flags in towns and cities across England.

    An online "patriotism campaign" called Operation Raise the Colours, encouraging people to hang patriotic flags across England, has gathered momentum online.

    Robert Jenrick, the shadow justice secretary, hoisted Union flags in his constituency in Newark earlier this week. In Dorset, a number of mini-roundabouts have been painted to resemble the St George's Cross, which the council has described as "targeted vandalism".

    "It would be naive to pretend otherwise that the St George's flag has been co-opted by certain far-Right groups to promote their agendas," Cllr Ireland told the BBC. "We will not be encouraging division in our communities."

    Mini-roundabouts in Weymouth and Portland were targeted this week, the Daily Echo reported. Pictures showed several white roundabouts daubed with stripes of red paint. Cllr Ireland said the paint would be "removed shortly" as defacing road markings was "dangerous" and could distract drivers.

    He said there was "an underlying tension in the campaign", which he claimed had been "hijacked by people whose views, for me, are completely unacceptable".

    The association of the St George's and Union flags with far-Right political movements meant some residents had felt "intimidated", he added.

    He urged people to fly national flags in a way that is "safe and respectful", such as at home, at community events and on designated flagpoles.

    "For me, patriotism means working hard to improve the lives of our communities, holding our institutions to account and making sure we live up to our values," he said.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/22/english-flag-protests-st-george-operation-raise-the-colours

    1. Dorset Council leader is a Liberal weasel ..

      His bunch of soft floppy handed twerps are in the majority on the Dorset Council.

      He has clearly forgotten that his patch consists of many Military units , including a port that still hosts the Royal Navy in tiny numbers , he forgets that this area has an amazing military history, the RTR , Royal Marines , Royal Navy , and old airfields from whence brave RAF pilots flew from , and especially so when their young lives were sacrificed during the Battle of Britain .

      There are Union flags everywhere .. but the poncy twerp hasn't once mentioned the stores that host that ghastly rainbow flag and symbols of that ilk , nor has he mentioned the odd weirdy beardie areas where the Gaza flag is painted on some buildings ..

      Here we are awash with monuments , memorials , flags and proud active people who reperesent their country on high days and holidays .

      The Weirdy weasel is clueless .. and as for his terminology , we are all right wing here in this part of the world , except for the lefty scumbags who are creeping into our county and sucking the rate payer dry , easily identified by their man buns or pony tails , earrings , tattoos , and general stink about their persona ..

      1. This letter in yesrerday's Telegraph was a response to that article:

        Warning flags

        SIR – It is commonplace for flags to be flown from lamp posts in towns and villages across Northern Ireland, and in loyalist areas especially ("English flag protests are 'intimidating', claims council leader", report, August 23). The Union flag and the Ulster Banner are most prevalent.

        These are viewed as symbols of pride and defiance, or even as the intimidatory marking of territory. However, the real message unwittingly conveyed by such displays is one of insecurity, felt by communities that perceive themselves and their identity to be under threat and so overtly signal their presence and intention to remain.

        That some have felt the need to resort to similar displays in England is a warning sign that politicians would do well to heed.

        Edward Hill
        Chandlers Ford, Hampshire

      2. There must have been a few non-right wing voters or the lefty Liberal wouldn't be in charge…….

  20. Yo and God Moaning to you all, from a was wet (the rain has just stopped) and cool C d S.

    Each and every morning , after reading the papers, and see what (what the MSN allows us to know) is going on in the UK, I thank my Lord (can I say that?) I am past the first flush of youth.

      1. Google weather promised up some rain at 6am – but it didn't happen. Sunny and dry here.

  21. https://www.thetimes.com/imageserver/image/%2F6ac6bced-802a-4de1-bca2-fc25e15e896f.jpg?crop=2615%2C1744%2C382%2C252&resize=750&format=webp
    Clarkson’s Farm boosts agricultural college applications
    Hit Amazon TV series inspires more young people to sign up for farm management courses

    Podcast, TV and radio listings

    At 4 p.m., Radio Four asks: what if we read Animal Farm as a book about farming?

    Stephen Fry goes up against Clarkson in a ‘celeb’ version of Who Wants to be a Millionaire? on ITV One at 9 p.m.

  22. Why did I want to copy and paste this letter ?

    SIR – Angela Rayner is a working-class woman whose parents were unemployed. She left school as a teenage mother without qualifications.

    Yet she got on her bike, worked hard and now has a highly paid and responsible job. She discovered the joy of property ownership when she bought her council house. With a good pension awaiting her, she can also afford a holiday home. This is Thatcherite aspiration at its very best.

    Mike Tickner
    Winterbourne Earls, Wiltshire

    Why , because she is an absolute scruffy tart, puffing on her vape , no self discipline re her so called leg spreading/ bust revealing / armpit / charm pit tattooed decadence ..

    She should attempt to scrub up a little smarter !

    1. Yet… she has whinged and bitched about soshulism all her life, has not worked for a penny of her income and is a pathetic hypocrite.

      1. Well she worked hard as a care assistant and got her NVQ2 for that – and also worked hard as a union rep. From there she climbed the greasy pole……. The girl done well!

    2. She worked hard? At what? Nothing productive. She may have a responsible job, but she’s crap at it.

    3. She's produced nothing of value since going into politics, and she wants to keep the rest of us from being able to actually earn similar. Taht's why people hate her.

    1. Where are the police? They arrested a woman for praying silently across the road from an abortion clinic.

    2. Yep. Deliberate. If they did it across me, i would walk through the middle of them. And probably be arrested for it.

    1. Fine by me.
      Say it out loud for the hard of hearing Lefties & Progressives.
      Battle lines are drawn.. Radical Lefties & Islam vs. the rest.. even Liberals & wet Tories.
      The silent majority will always attract Indians & Sikhs.

      1. Lefties don't necessarily support muslim.

        They DO hate normal people, and normal people are finding muslim very difficult so of course, Leftists attack normalcy

    2. And therein lies the problem with Multiculturism that the Refugees Welcome either fail or refuse to recognise.
      Instead of leaving their traditional rivalries and hatreds on the runway of the departure airport, they bring them with them.

    1. Read the article on Yahoo News. If it moves tax it, if it remains stationary tax it. So clever that he has ideas coming out of every pore but not so clever that he can see the damage his ideas have down the line. Where do they find these people?

      1. When you never have to actually make any money and can drift from 'think tank' t think tank just on your idoelogy you end up with wasters who do not value other people's property.

  23. Over on Free Speech Backlash today is an article by our friend Jeremy Morfey – and a discussion. Go and put your point of view.

  24. Plumber's just arrived – we've had no water in the hot basin tap in our en-suite for the past 10 days or so and the cold tap is fearsome……..shower works ok though. He says we've got an air-lock now from the installation of the new cylinder a few weeks ago. But we could do with some new taps as they eat washers.. We'll see what he can do.

        1. The handle (lever or crosshead) turns through 90 degrees only but in doing so opens the valve fully, unlike a screw-and-washer tap which is gradual. Knock one open fully (easy to do accidentally) and prepare to be drenched, especially if your pressure is high.

          If you have hard water, the valves are easy to damage. They have ceramic faces which are easily scratched by fragments of limescale and will then drip. I had this problem and although the valves were under a 5-year guarantee, I eventually had to buy replacements, invariably a pair even if only one was needed, and starting at about £20.

          1. Our water is very hard but the taps on the basin have been there since the extension was built, a couple of years before we bought the house in '95.

          2. We have ceramic washers quarter turn taps. We also have hard water some circuits of which are softened. I agree that ceramic washers frequently lead to dripping taps.

            I am old enough to remember when taps were produced by Barking Brassware and came with leather washers. The leather washers were then replaced with plastic which were forever failing and requiring the use of a re-setting tool to grind the washer seating flat.

            On balance quarter turn are a modest improvement but not perfect.

          3. We'll see if they last a bit longer now. Over the years the cold one has had dozens of new washers.

        2. Many problems such as taps and water flow are fixed by the installation of a whole house water softener. The house here is built on limestone subsoil so the well water is naturally hard. The softener does the job and knocks the hardness right down. Would not be without one.

    1. Do not look him in the eyes. Susceptible creatures, plumbers, in my experience! 🤣🤣

  25. Morning everyone. Just waiting for my appointment. I allowed plenty of time because of traffic, roadworks and the fact I had never been before. I hate being late.

    They really are going all out to play down the significance of Two Tier justice and imprisonment for going against the narrative, aren’t they?

    1. Yep. Exposing it annoys the state. It would far prefer we just took it without complaint.

    1. With a snake wrapped around his neck, something about birds of a feather springs to mind.

    1. My question would be, why are all these migrants muslim no matter what country they come from?

      Where are the Syrian Christians and Yadizis?

      Who happen to be persecuted by muslims.

      1. Several years ago I met a youngish Syrian Christian family at a religious social event. Wife with toddler, friendly, the husband much less so. He is a medical professional, and probably does not suffer fools gladly.

          1. Compared to a consultant, yes I am.
            Also, surgeons may have a sub-optimal bedside manner because their patients tend to be unconscious.

          2. No, mate, you ain’t. You have life experience, somethin g education and certificates cannot give.

  26. That's the errant pear tree dropped.
    I've left a fair sized stump which, given the well established root system, should recover and, given the other pear trees I have, might even produce fruit.
    Ironically, whilst it has never produced anything in the past, when taking the lower side growth off t'other day I found a single, tiny pear!

    I've now got the bit I've removed to sort out and, being 4" at the but end, some of it will be going as firewood.

    1. The unkempt pear tree in the Dower House garden has been given ruthless surgery two years running.
      This year it has gone berserk and produced loads of pears. They are the rock hard Wardens so I am reviving my poaching skills.
      Any other hard pear recipes would be appreciated.

      1. Pear juice. The Warqueen and I practically lived on pear juice while we were pootling about. Could drink it by the bucket.

        1. I remember you saying she had a nice pair, thought it a bit bold but now have the picture..

    2. The main trunk of our greengage tree was truncated(!!) some years ago and new growth appeared from lower down and so the tree regenerated…….. this year the crop was the biggest ever.

    3. Never had so many plums from our litle tree, that only keeps standing because it's moored to the side of the house.
      Lovely! Love fresh ripe local plums, and you can't get more local than that.

  27. Can any of you wise people posting in this place tell me why a simple red cross on the white bits of a zebra crossing is lethal but an entire replacement of the crossing with a rainbow is perfectly safe?

    1. I imagine you know why – it is a symbol of unity. A banner people are uniting behind.

      The Left/state hates that.

      1. There are seven colours in a spectrum: red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo and violet (ROYGBIV).

        By having eleven colours did the idiot think he was being more inclusive?

        1. That ugly brown and black and pastel sludge is very much indicative of where the "movement" is heading

  28. Sorry about this:

    Terrible news coming from Merseyside this evening.
    The Birkenhead Tunnel has been closed and the speed limit will be reduced for the foreseeable future to 25mph.
    The Highways Agency found over 200 dead crows on the tunnel approach recently, and there was concern that they may have died from Avian Flu.
    A Pathologist examined the remains of all the crows, and, has confirmed in their report the problem was NOT Avian Flu but rather the cause of death appeared to be from vehicular impacts.
    However, during analysis it was noted that varying colours of paints appeared on the …bird's beaks and claws. By analysing these paint residues it was found that 98% of the crows had been killed by impact with lorrys, while only 2% were killed by cars.
    The Agency then hired an Ornithological Behaviourist to determine if there was a cause for the disproportionate percentages of truck kills versus car kills.
    The Ornithological Behaviourist quickly concluded that when crows eat road kill, they always have a look-out crow to warn of danger.
    They discovered that while all the lookout crows could shout "Cah", not a single one could shout "Lorry"

  29. Sorry about this:

    Terrible news coming from Merseyside this evening.
    The Birkenhead Tunnel has been closed and the speed limit will be reduced for the foreseeable future to 25mph.
    The Highways Agency found over 200 dead crows on the tunnel approach recently, and there was concern that they may have died from Avian Flu.
    A Pathologist examined the remains of all the crows, and, has confirmed in their report the problem was NOT Avian Flu but rather the cause of death appeared to be from vehicular impacts.
    However, during analysis it was noted that varying colours of paints appeared on the …bird's beaks and claws. By analysing these paint residues it was found that 98% of the crows had been killed by impact with lorrys, while only 2% were killed by cars.
    The Agency then hired an Ornithological Behaviourist to determine if there was a cause for the disproportionate percentages of truck kills versus car kills.
    The Ornithological Behaviourist quickly concluded that when crows eat road kill, they always have a look-out crow to warn of danger.
    They discovered that while all the lookout crows could shout "Cah", not a single one could shout "Lorry"

  30. Captain Ralph Kerr CBE, RN was driving the Hood hard, indeed more than flat out, 30 knots or more, to get out of the danger zone where the shells from the Bismarck would, because of the range, be plunging fire. He knew that the best protection his ship had was in its 12" cemented armour main belt and not the relatively thin deck protection. At least one 15" shell from Bismarck penetrated as far into the ship as the 4.5" magazine before it functioned (in the idiom), this magazine detonated venting into the adjacent X turret 15" magazine causing a sympathetic detonation, breaking the ships back and causing her to sink.
    There is also evidence to suggest the forward B turret magazine also exploded as she left the surface.

    Only three men survived:
    Ordinary Signalman Ted Briggs (1923–2008), Able Seaman Robert Tilburn (1921–1995), and Midshipman William John Dundas (1923–1965). The three were rescued about two hours after the sinking by the destroyer Electra, which spotted substantial debris but no bodies.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/Battlecruiser_HMS_Hood_-_IWM_Q_75272.jpg

    The memorial window in the Church of Saint Peter, Newnham-on-Severn, to the members of the Kerr family who lost their lives in the Great War and Second World War.
    Captain Kerr, his son, brother, and one other member of his family:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/877e800f2512aca45b8099467bb29acbc431d4b8085db83ff77358e13bf69350.jpg?w=600&h=950

  31. Well……..the plumber did his job and finished a while ago. Just had a look and the new taps look quite smart, and the water is flowing ok from the hot tap when i turned it on to wash my hands…….. the little label on the top says 'cold' and the other one says 'hot'…….. OH says he will unscrew them and reverse them.

    1. Hmm.. I assume he means at the pipe end, as cold should be on the right and hot on the left.

      1. The hot tap is on the left and the cold one on the right. In the mixer tap in the kitchen the hot is on the right and the cold on the left.
        The taps are fine but the labels on the taps are the other way round.

    1. 411954+ up ticks,

      Afternoon KtK,

      "No longer safe to stay outside for a couple of hours"
      Climate change must be very,very active in London.

    2. Mr Gore, speaking at the Copenhagen climate change summit, stated the latest research showed that the Arctic could be completely ice-free in five years. 2009

      “Within the decade, there will be no more snows of Kilimanjaro.” Al Gore (2006), An Inconvenient Truth. It is now 15 years since Al Gore's .

    3. It soon will be unsafe to venture out, especially if you are a woman, but it won’t be the climate that’s to blame.

  32. Patrick West
    Britain’s sickness is plain to see on the streets of London
    23 August 2025, 6:01am

    The appearance of vigilantes on the streets of Bournemouth certainly represents a worrying development. What is less widely-known is that civilian law enforcers have also started to appear on the streets in London.

    London is now exhibiting much the same problems that have been in incubation elsewhere for years

    I only became aware of this on Monday when walking up Tottenham Court Road. There in the afternoon I spotted two personnel clad in orange patrol vests emblazoned with the words ‘Street Warden’ (deployed, as it explained at the dorsal base, by the Fitzrovia Partnership, an organisation that works with local businesses) questioning three youths who, to judge by the expression and tone of their interrogators, had been up to no good. The wardens then proceeded to have a word with a pavement beggar, advising him to keep his begging cup free from the path of pedestrians.

    At any other point in recent years this wouldn’t be regarded as an unusual sight, given the growing consensus that crime in London is out of control. Yet we live in unusual times right now, perhaps in the midst of a crisis, as the emergence of the self-styled ‘Safeguard Force’ in the Dorset seaside town attests.

    What I witnessed would suggest that rather than being exceptional, London today is in-step with trends elsewhere in the country. That there have been anti-migrant disturbances in Ballymena, in Northern Ireland, this summer, and that the incidence of putting up – and taking down – flags has spread to Tower Hamlets in the capital, would confirm that we really do live in one United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

    That patriotic flags have started to spring up in Tower Hamlets, of all places, undermines the assumption that London is abnormal, being vastly more foreign and alien than the rest of the country. Thus, some might even welcome the fact that English and British flags are now being unfurled on the streets there, evidence that our capital city is being reclaimed by discontented indigenous population, tangible proof that the populist wave is manifesting itself conspicuously and with confidence. Similarly, the arrival of street wardens has been deemed to signal that ordinary people are taking back control of their beleaguered neighbourhoods.

    Yet these twin, related developments are nothing to celebrate. They are not solutions to our problems, but symptoms of grave and profound problems.

    For sure, it may be blessed short-term relief for some that civilian law enforcers have arrived on our streets, but it should be no cause for joy. Some New Yorkers might have felt similar comfort to see the Guardian Angels arrive on their subway trains in the 1970s, but most also recognised it as a desperate response to a city that had reached a nadir.

    Likewise, some might rejoice that the ethnic English now feel sufficiently bold to assert themselves after decades of neglect and opprobrium. Yet the fact that photographs of southwest Birmingham or east London now recall past images of loyalist east Belfast should also arouse disquiet. With a profusion of Palestine flags across the land also denoting the establishment of ethnic fiefdoms administered by ‘community leaders’, we are witnessing the partition of urban landscapes into territories along sectarian lines.

    London is now exhibiting much the same problems that have been in incubation elsewhere for years. This is because, despite all the capital’s indisputable differences in comparison to the rest of the UK, problems that arise by dint of being an international city with a large multi-ethnic, multi-racial compositions (other international cities like New York and Paris have been beset by comparable problems), London is like the rest of the country in many respects. It is neither the hellhole that many outside the capital are lead to believe, nor is it the Elysium that some liberals who seldom seem to venture beyond their affluent, white North London enclaves would have us believe.

    London, Birmingham, Bournemouth, Ballymena: these are all places bearing the unmistakable signs of a nation-state seemingly on the precipice, thanks to a breakdown in law and order, a surge in both legal and illegal immigration and the fragmentation of intercommunal relations.

    For years we were told to celebrate multiculturalism unreservedly. While most still abide to a tolerant, liberal attitude in regard to living alongside different peoples in the same country, only a remote elite still cling to multiculturalism as a state-promoted ideology, one that only leads to more division.

    Some, including many in the police, still also advocate the notion that shoplifters and other criminals resort to their actions out of desperation, or even as a form of readdressing the iniquities of capitalism. The shibboleth that criminals are victims must be jettisoned, as must the constant sneering and condescension towards the English working class by complacent, insulated liberals. Both these misguided attitudes have been key in bringing about today’s woeful – and nationwide – state of affairs.

    Written by
    Patrick West is a columnist for Spiked and author of Get Over Yourself: Nietzsche For Our Times (Societas, 2017)

    ***********************************************
    Less Information Required
    3 days ago
    Growing up (in Wolverhampton), i couldn’t give twi figs where someone was from or the colour of the skin. But after 30 years of enforced fealty to the altar of Multiculturalism and Diversity, i am now acutely aware of foreigners, especially Slammers, and “black and brown” people. I avoid all like the plague now. Well done, Government and Al-Beeb and other Lamestream media. You’ve taken a normal tolerant Brit and turned me into what you would call a far-right racist. I’m not; i’m just fed up: fed up with not being allowed to be proud of my birthright, fed up of being a second-class citizen in my own country (but being forced to pay for it); fed up that my kids are being actively discriminated against in the jobs market; fed up that i am not even allowed to fly a flag.

    E. N. Gineer Less Information Required
    3 days ago edited
    It’s not just the ‘ethnically English’ who feel this. I am a first generation immigrant, having arrived in England, legally, as 2 year old. My parents chose to speak English to me, so that I’d fit in, and later chose to do the same with my brother. They assimilated. My mother worked for Marks & Spencer and my father plays for the local cricket club, even at the age of 62.

    There are plenty of legitimate immigrants, even some who work for me, who are utterly sick of the situation and fear of association with the criminals landing on our shores. There are plenty of foreign-born individuals who’d be delighted to see Union Flags and crosses of St George flying all over the country, who are proud to have been welcomed into Britain and who know all the words to Jerusalem.

    This is not an unsalvageable situation, but the longer we keep voting in the likes of Treason, Spaffer, Sunk and Queer, the longer these problems will persist and the longer we will have to deal with society crumbling around us.

    We must act on illegal immigration immediately and then we must, wholesale and very publicly, shame those who take advantage of our society’s unique capacity for patience. Only then will the UK begin to heal.

    Actively Inactive E. N. Gineer
    3 days ago
    You're exactly right. Immigration to this country has, generally speaking, been by people who genuinely wanted to adopt Britain and British culture. The big change now is that there's a very different type of immigration which is more akin to an enemy invasion.

    Spectating
    3 days ago
    This is all a direct symptom of mass immigration, incompatible multiculturalism, and the marginalisation of the historical, core, culture, having riddled it with self doubt. Result? A societal mess.

    1. Guardian Angels are operating on the New York City subway system again, having resumed patrols in late 2024 and early 2025 due to a spike in violent crime on the trains. After a hiatus since the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, the volunteer group is back to provide a visible presence, perform wellness checks, and report issues to the authorities, aiming to restore a sense of safety for New Yorkers.

      New York is a sanctuary city. That is why the Angels have returned. Weak Democratic leadership pandering to illegals.

      Just like in the UK.

    2. I feel the same, lir. Europeans first in Europe, Africans first in Africa. After my acupuncture session I went round the market. One of the stalls was operated by something dressed from head to foot in back with three offspring at foot. I gave it a wide berth.

  33. The Last Night of the Proms is approaching. I don't suppose it'll be an improvement on recent times, with the podium occupied by another foreigner, Elim Chan (yes, I also asked 'Who?'). Since 2000, there have been only four British-born conductors, all English: Paul Daniel (2005), Roger Norrington (2008), Edward Gardner (2011) and Andrew Davis in 2018, the last of his 11 but the first since 2000.

    Why mention it now? It's a bit of a leap but yesterday Sosraboc posted on here a video of the return to the barracks at the Edinburgh Royal Tattoo. This came to mind almost immediately (how our brains make such connections is a discussion for another time). It's Luciano Berio's orchestral transcription of the Ritirata (the retreat of the military night watch) from Boccherini's Musica notturna delle strade di Madrid. It's from the 1995 Last Night with Davis in charge – and I mean 'in charge'.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Pq1P_iJ10
    Compare this with today's subdued, half-hearted offerings. Davis was loved by the audiences of the time and even if he wasn't the type to have Union flags draped around his changing room or his home, he knew what the Last Night was about, what it meant to the audience and how to go along with it. The atmosphere is terrific and as far I know, no immigrants were beaten up by flag-waving Prommers, nor were any countries invaded by them afterwards.

    Today's foreign conductors just don't get it and one can't help feeling that that's why they're chosen. However, I'm far less in touch with the scene today than I once was so I don't know if there are any British conductors of the current generation who ought to be selected. More to the point, would any of them be imbued with the sense of Britishness required?

    PS – There are several uploads of this out there and they're not really of great quality. This is the one of the better ones. Oh, and 10/10 to the well-known presenter for keeping his commentary to the necessary minimum.

    1. I'm guessing the legions of EU-flag bearing quarter-wits in the Albert Hall will be supplemented by an equal number of the brain dead who will be waving a Palestinian flag.

  34. Beebsplaining
    2h
    By Odin's hairy loincloth, the country is overrun, the people have had enough, Nigel has rebored the uniparty a new one on gimmigrants and the Capt of Carbuncles is dribbling about VPNs🙄
    Election Now 😡 you dribbling queef https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6e41a4f582b987d6c24b8d48a4f49a5b7b0211ff11b97d5073b9b4d6b93cbecb.png
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    Scaramouche
    1h
    2TK is beyond credulity !Tulsi Gabbard, the United States’ director of national intelligence, said that London agreed to drop its requirement for Apple to provide a “back door” that would have allowed access to the protected data of US users and “encroached on our civil liberties”.

    So 2TK now turns his attentions to VPN’s which is like trying to ban the wind💨….. Is his technical advisor the man with crayons at the FO ?

    VPL .Visible Panty Line https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/25fa55b6d4e87056a1fde76b0e0f2fe31ca84e116c265c491767161211f3cd47.png

    1. A long while ago Wiggy brought back a gift for me. The neighbour's cat. It still looked dopey as if it hadn't really woken up. When he dropped it to show what a great hunter he was, it promptly swatted him on the nose.

  35. Borrowing costs surge as Britain faces ‘moron premium’ under Reeves

    Jump in gilt yields will increase pressure on the Chancellor as she prepares for her autumn Budget

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/3116a548ec212c7e

    Lynn Dobson
    1 hr ago
    And still the Labour MPs will vote against any decrease in benefits and public spending. The bond markets will have to force them.

    Lance DeBoles et al
    1 hr ago
    Liam Halligan has explained we are way beyond the Reeves tinkering and nonsense now……….and deflecting to Trump is just idiocy.

    THE UK has done this to itself……WE need to stop FAFO, and radically cut the State…….NOW!

    The rest is just waffle, irrelevance and yet more hot air.

    Simeon Carolho
    1 hr ago
    I believe we are in dangerous deranged new territory…

    They know they've blown it.

    They know the posh latte mung bean left is voting Jezbollah.

    They know the brown ale and chips left is voting Reform.

    They know their own MPs and members won't let them cut anything, and they know that if they tax private biz more, people will shut up shop and go on the rock n roll, or B off.

    I don't think they care. I think they're in Thelma and Louise mode, driving the car off the cliff. I think they know the Tory Labour ping pong game is over, it's going to be Reform or Jezbollah, there's no reason to care, it ain't 18 years in opposition, it's Game Over, and they know it… so they're going full throttle. They may have to be stopped, how that happens, god only knows. Like I say, unchartered waters.

      1. The 1976 IMF loan was £3.9 BN. That would go nowhere today compared to the depth of the problem. Greece borrowed a total of over $200BN but was forced at accept austerity measures and severely cut government spending. To get the kind of funds Britain needs means it will be a rough ride. Best to get your money out of Britain before the IMF delivers a "haircut" to the banks like they did in Cyprus.

        1. From whom is this notional money loaned? For heaven's sake – it doesn't exist in the first place

    1. Starmer is intent on pushing the UK into a hot war with Russia. The man and his cohorts are actually certifiable. All other considerations are of no interest whatever to Starmer who cares nothing for his countrymen.

    1. They should be careful.. may regret this.
      Try that in Thailand, China, South Korea.. actually anywhere in Asia. It's not clever.

          1. Some penalties already exist, tho' I don't know about them. I do know here is a formal protocol relating to how to raise/lower the flag and how to dispose of old ones.

          2. Yes, here in the UK the politicians were recently discussing how to dispose of 'old ones'; some new law about assisted dyeing.

    2. Given the look, and the boots the stamper is wearing, she probably plays for the other team.

    3. There is a lesson to be learned from this. Move the flag higher up the pole when you replace it.

  36. Wordle No. 1,529 3/6

    ⬜⬜⬜🟨🟨
    ⬜⬜🟨⬜⬜
    🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

    Wordle 26 Aug 2025

    An extension for Birdie Three?

    1. Back to Earth today with a 5.

      Wordle 1,529 5/6

      🟩⬜⬜⬜🟨
      🟩⬜🟨⬜⬜
      🟩⬜⬜🟩⬜
      🟩⬜⬜🟩🟨
      🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

    2. Well done – I was fairly confident of a birdie but, alas, I had not considered the X – I dont think that letter appears that often!

      Just a par……

      Wordle 1,529 4/6

      ⬜🟨⬜🟩⬜
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      🟩⬜🟩🟩⬜
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      1. Lacoste , good afternoon

        Notting hill carnival which was held over the Bank holiday .. Caribs celebrating their culture here in the UK, and costing the taxpayer an absolute mint !

    1. I do wonder whether the whole Farage / Lowe thing was staged. It seemed so gratuitous somehow. When something doesn't make sense, there's usually a motive you haven't spotted yet, in my experience.

      1. 411854+ up ticks,

        Evening BB2,
        precisely why I want to see a safety net party as in, build on the Farmers Food and Freedom Party they have a long standing pedigree of patriotic integrity steeped in time.

        The farage chap talks the talk, but has been known to walk in a very treacherously lame manner.

  37. I'm not going to bother transcribing as I often do but I've just listened to the intro to R4's PM programme. The item was about Reform's plan to remove illegal immigrants. Normally, the discussion proper would take place later in the programme but the gist of the script was was that the numbers were wrong, the plans were uncosted, the definition of illegal was incorrect because some weren't asylum seekers, the law doesn't work like that, blah blah. In other words, dragging the debate around in the dirt of detail. This is the worst of the BBC's 'Ministry of Truth' attitude, as though it is the source of all that is correct and proper. It was editorialising of the worst kind, the message being clear: "We abhor any suggestion that immigration is wrong and we'll say so in our news broadcasts."

    1. In daylight hours, the BBC is banned from these premises. Occasionally, in the early hours, should I wake and struggle to sleep, I'll ask "bedside Alexa" to play Radio 4. Which overnight is actually the World Service. Don't know why they emphasise the first syllable of service, but they all do it.

      It's reliably far more woke, even than R4, but it cures sleeplesness more or less instantaneously…

      1. I don't ever expect much even-handedness but this wasn't even a discussion. It was in the reading of the news.

      2. Try Radio 3 in the early hours like I did last night between 3 – 6:00am classical music without the inane chatter about feelings etc ( As it happens I felt very tired and not able to sleep – no matter!)

  38. What weather today!
    Bright with scattered cloud, overcast, light rain, bright sunshine, overcast, downpour, sunshine, sunshine with rain and bright sunshine to end with.
    And in between all that I've dropped the main part of the pear tree, 20' trunk tapering from 4½" to 1", got rid of some of the brash but still a fair amount to deal with, but that can wait until after I get back from my Solent trip.
    The elongated stump, which grew at a 45° angle, has three vertical shoots coming off it as well as several at all other angles, so I'll be leaving it to see how it regrows.

  39. Out buying plumbing fittings this afternoon, in one shop, the assistant was a gorgeous small fit blonde lass, tiny, very pale skin, with the most amazing eyes – the irises were almost luminous pale blue, with a narrow dark ring between iris and the brilliant white, for contrast. Absolutely captivating. The effect was quite disarming, so it was.

      1. Just try putting a gorgeous small fit blonde lass, tiny, very pale skin, with the most amazing eyes – the irises were almost luminous pale blue, with a narrow dark ring between iris and the brilliant white, for contrast as a prompt into an AI image generator.

      2. Old guys like me photographing pretty young lasses are quickly arrested for being a pervert.

        1. There is nothing perverted in admiring pretty girls. Indeed only perverts don't admire them!

    1. Putting Liverpool FC's best team against my village XI would not be sport because my local team cannot possibly win.

      So if a bull consents to a fight with a picador it would only be 'sport' if the bull has an equal chance of winning.

      1. It's the "picador" that gets me incensed, all they do is weaken and enrage the bull.
        Put those bastards off their horses and see how they get on.
        It's torture as entertainment.

      2. They did well last night – did you see the 16 year old youngster score in the 100th minute to win it?

      1. I didn't know that.
        It's still a very strange sport, but I have more sympathy for him and his family now than I did.

        1. They don’t kill the bull in the ring, but it is usually sent for slaughter after the fight. And they still provoke it with darts from a man on horseback.

          1. There's a bull ring on Beverley Westwood, up in East Yorkshire.

            Apparently the bulls were tethered to the ring (VERY firmly anchored in the ground – no-one's managed to grub it out and steal it despite centuries of disuse), and goaded to run in circles before being slaughtered. The rationale was that their meat tasted better after such terror.

            Appalling to our sensibilities, but presumably believed at the time.

          2. Still believed by the Chinese, apparently, ashes. Elsewhere it is accepted that meat tastes better and is less tough if the animal is humanely killed.

  40. Top article at The Times: https://www.thetimes.com/
    "Women and children face deportation under Reform migrant plan
    Nigel Farage says his party will send 600,000 illegal immigrants back to their home country within the first five years if it wins power"

    Angled to put Farage in the worst light, like he's targetting women & children only – what a mysogenistic bastard, eh?

      1. My point is the implication of targetting only the women & children – spin to the disadvantage of Farage.

        1. Most certainly so.
          They need to get the statistics correct.
          I doubt one in fifty small boat arrivals is a women or child under 14.
          What's needed is accurate, irrefutable numbers.

          1. No – they bring the women in later. Illegal should include those who have become illegal by eg. overstaying their visa. They didn't need boats, just cheated their way in. Aided and abetted no doubt by their compatriots in the HO.

  41. A colleague at work is just leaving for the evening. He said, did i know anyone with Lyme’s disease. I said, only a friend of a friend who had it (and he killed himself – but this was 20 years ago now). My colleague said he was going to see his friend who has just revealed he has the dreaded disease. Now i am upset. I don’t know this poor lad – he is probably early 40s – but it already sounds dreadful.

    On that unhappy note I will pack up and head home, else I won’t be back in time to set off again tomorrow.

          1. Yep, Jill had it twice, maybe 20 odd years ago. At the time she was an avid gardener and we had lots of deer traipsing through the area and since round here, they are carriers of the ticks, the doc reckoned that's how it happened.

            At the time the definitive treatment was 30 days of doxycycline, but I believe they use lower doses these days.

          2. Hello Jack,

            We have been reading about deformed rabbits and deer covered in growths and abscesses over there in the USA.

            Has there been a biological leak somewhere , similar to Wuhan , or is it to do with chemical/ radiation leaks /

            The deformities and and sores look appalling , a dystopian nightmare if that jumps to humans and other species .

          3. Have read about it, but no-one here seems to be panicking. And certainly no signs of deformity in our local wildlife population. And I see a lot of deer around here. I do wonder where the "deformed" pics were taken. Maybe they are eating nasty chemicals, or similar.

    1. I think our friend here Per had it a couple of years ago – he was quite poorly but recovered.

    1. One minute it can't be done..
      the next 1,2 million must be deported..
      Now it's 650K.
      Online Right requests.. Will the Real Nigel Farage stand up..

      1. The trouble is that unless Ben and Rob Rupert can get enough support before the next election, he's the best we've got. :o(

        Edit: The only hope is that Farage can be shamed into doing the right things…

    2. It's an absolute disaster that Farage and Lowe are knocking lumps out of each other – FFS surely they realise that the UK is desperate for a strong Nationalist (well it works for Scotland) alternative to the Uniparty crap we've been served up for God knows how long…..

      I despair when I see just more politicos with planet-sized egos preening and prancing on the national stage.

      We've had it…. we've just had it….. there can be no comeback from here………

        1. According to web searches, he is 5' 8", while Rayner is 5' 6", or 7" or 8" depending on who you believe and Reeves 5' 5". Both women are wearing heels in that pic, plus the angle makes Reeves (nearest the camera) look taller.

      1. If only it were. At least then some nit couldn't pop up and complain about 'da Tories' with a Pit Fiend hovering over them.

    1. Anyone who is in the US, legally or not, but not a US citizen is eligible for deportation if they are convicted of a felony. They do their time, then ICE picks them up and ships them back to their country of origin.

      1. Imagine how super-organised you would have to be to achieve that,

        (Sarc)

        1. Ha!

          The real issue is in deciding to deal with the problem vs.trying to pretend everything is fine and dandy.

      2. If a non-US citizen is deported for unlawful entry to the USA, a subsequent unlawful re-entry would be classed as a felony.

    2. What about the Britons who endorsed and encouraged the rapes of children? What about the police, social services, councils?

    3. A load of Pakistani dual nationals will simply give up their Pakistan nationality. As far as I'm concerned Pakistan should be forced to take them back if requested – officially nationals or not.

    1. 423 arrests made at that wonderful display of diversity.
      But quiet organised peaceful 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿St George's 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿day parades long cancelled.

    2. Yes, it is known as African Dance Theme, the beat is broadcast through
      wall-mounted yellow hexagonal boxes labelled ADT.

  42. Labour has no mandate to raise our taxes
    new
    If you win a landslide saying you’ll fund spending through growth and fail to achieve that, you’d better look for cuts
    Daniel Finkelstein
    Tuesday August 26 2025, 5.21pm, The Times

    Labour ran for office saying repeatedly that their plans were “about prosperity, not higher taxes”. At its manifesto launch Angela Rayner announced that “we can’t tax our way to growth” and was followed by Richard Walker, the executive chair of Iceland, who announced that he had switched to Labour because they were now the friend of business. To which Rachel Reeves added that “we don’t have a tax-and-spend manifesto. We have a growth plan.”

    Starmer himself was even more explicit. There would be “no tax surprises” because “all of our plans are fully funded and fully costed and none of them require tax rises over and above the ones [he meant things like VAT on school fees] that we’ve already announced.” And this is why he was so easily able to dismiss the CGT story. He wouldn’t need to raise CGT because he wasn’t going to need to raise taxes as a whole.

    This was not a minor promise, either. It was central to the outcome of the last election. Fed up with the Tories? Don’t worry, you can have Labour and it won’t cost you anything. There’s really nothing to object to. But it was more than that. It was a central statement of how Labour intended to run the country.

    The tax and spending position of the country was completely obvious last summer. Ruling out tax rises meant staying on the course the Tories were on. To do that in any serious way, it would be necessary to reduce what the state does. Eventually Labour’s growth plan (whatever that is) might arrive to save the day, but until then there would be tough spending settlements. Given the scope of this country’s public service commitments and the pressures of demographic change, staying on this course required welfare reform.

    So Starmer’s position on CGT and other taxes was, in effect, a commitment to welfare reform. Ideally one sufficient to allow a reduction in the tax burden on businesses in order to assist the growth plan. Had Labour acknowledged that its internal politics made it impossible to do this, even with a landslide, I do not believe that they would have won that landslide.

    So as we talk about the tax-raising budget to come we should not think of it as inevitable. It would be a gross breach of promise. It was what Labour were elected not to do, what they told us all that they would not do.

    It would also be the wrong policy. Angela Rayner was right when she said that we can’t tax our way to growth. And we all know that she was right, which is why she said it. We are pulling more and more people into higher rates of tax and heading to a tax burden on households and business that is a postwar high. All at the same time as borrowing far too much. We are spending record amounts on public services and on welfare and it doesn’t seem to be making us happier or better provided for. We need to divert from this path and that is what Labour promised to do.

    After the budget it will be tempting to concentrate on why this or that particular measure is mistaken. But this will miss the central point. A tax-raising budget would be a betrayal of all the chancellor and the prime minister said they would do. It would be the end for her and the beginning of the end for him. Never glad confident morning again.

    daniel.finkelstein@thetimes.co.uk

    John Morgan
    25 minutes ago

    I don't understand how anyone could have watched Starmer's elections performances and think he was suitable to lead the country.

    He dished out sound-bites and struggled to explain the basics of delivery when challenged. He was also noticeably mentally slow when compared to Sunak. It was a clear signal of trouble ahead if he were elected.

    BJ Lunt
    1 hour ago

    The Tory party had no mandate to open the gates on a massive increase in immigration. Nor did it have a mandate to impose the net zero costs without any explanation of how it would change teh climate in any way whatsoever. those two measures alone are costing the country hundreds of billions each year but combined with the bloated public sector – another Tory legacy – then we begin to see the true costs of the Tory party's collapse into liberal madness. Labour are simply finishing the job that 15 years of Tory dereliction started. Did you forget that?

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    J Ornstin
    1 hour ago

    Yes it did. Brexit. We replaced short rerm EU migrants with long term developing world migrants who brought their families with them. All lawful.

    1. Starmer can't tell the truth and Labour has never been fiscally competent (Attlee, Wilson/Callaghan, Blair/Brown). The evidence was there for all to see.

        1. I am so tempted to post the vid of Putin singing that to breathless American "A-listers" – but i won't, as it's gone done so badly here in the past. It's very cute, and you can find it easily on youtube if you want to.

    1. Apart from the pay, one wonders why the actors are happy to portray something that is clearly a lie.

  43. Evening all 🙂😊
    My word what a morning.
    it's only a shortish drive to Abbots Langley from our home north of St Albans. But roadworks were horrendous. All the traffic lights were red and it took me 50 minutes.
    Physio was the same excellent young man.
    Same name as our eldest.
    I manage to carryout all the instructions he gave and he was very pleased with my progress. But I had to tell him about my problems with my back. His father had the same problem putting his own socks on.
    But half an hour later I was in the car on my way home. And all the lights were green except one. I never go over the speed limits.And I was home in less than 30 minutes.
    When I arrive home enjoying a coffee I opened one brown and a large white envelope.
    The Brown from Swansea contained my new driving licence……it pays not to speed.
    And the second contained an apologetic letter from Virgin media regarding the dreadful problems I have had and a promise that they will at last sort it out. I shall be asking for a refund for some three months payments…..we'll see.

    1. The luck wheel has moved into the better quadrants. May it slow and stay there a long time.

      1. That's how I felt when I opened the envelopes Sos.
        I just need to get my back better I've got 4 very large buckets of apples to juice. It's quite enjoyable in a way. Especially when the zyder is ready. 🥃🍎🍏

          1. I have no idea what you mean….🤔😉 I already get quite a lot of ladies approaching me with friendship requests after some comments on Facebook 😆😅🤣😂

          2. Rumour has it that that's all down to your Facebook moniker:

            HunglikeahorsewithatwelveinchtonguewhocanbreaththroughhisearsPhizzeetohisfriends

          3. I can’t make a claim to any of that,…..🤔🤗😊 I’m just generally a decent down to earth old geezer.
            But don’t tell anyone I said so……

    2. I saw the acupuncturist at midday. Needles in the back, TENS attached, then a massage. I have to say I felt so much more mobile afterwards. It did start to wear off during the afternoon, but it still isn't as bad as it was. I'm going back in a fortnight.

      1. Don't overdo it after the treatments. Because they make you fell so much easier they can give one a false confidence.
        Slow and steady wins that particular race.
        HG worked miracles with her various electronic therapies.

        1. That's the temptation. I did a lot more walking than usual after the treatment because I no longer had to sit down to rest to let the pain abate.

      2. When I had a frozen shoulder more than 30 years ago – I had a treatment at the local hospital called 'megapulse' – it was amazing……..very relaxing and painless and it really seemed to work.

      1. All very well, Leilani, but in the event you will be overpowered, brutally raped and then, if you do not submit to your new and unwanted "husband", stoned to death. We need to stop this, way before the tipping point, which is fast approaching.

        1. …or like the poor girl reported on in the papers yesterday, doused with petrol and burned to death.

          1. I wish I hadn't scrolled to this comment, Jack.
            Now sleep will be a problem.
            Poor lass.

    1. Al Beeb on the 6 o'clock news put huge effort into rubbishing Farage's plan.

      Their next story was about a Nigerian looking to rape a 14 year old girl.

      Have they no sense of irony?

    2. I have just been listening about this on today’s Lotus Eaters podcast.

  44. Re my colleague whose friend has Lyme’s disease: thanks for the comments, which I will feed back to him.

    1. Not been following, LIR,but interested to read, thanks. Lyme disease seemingly present in ticks/sheep – I stopped dosing my dog with Frontline mostly due to cost but also – few ticks so far this year thankfully. I think James Delingpole (Speccie columnist) may have had Lyme's, he was away a long time but now returned. Good wishes to your colleague.

  45. There's a lot of noise on here about Farage and Lowe, much of it pretty tedious and repetitive. It's fair to say that some of Farage's utterances in recent times, especially on immigration and welfare, have been odd for a man who claims to be at the blue end of the UK's political spectrum. Yousuf is certainly the unknown factor here. Perhaps Farage intends to string him along for as long as it takes to fleece him, at which point he'll toss him overboard and then channel his inner blue streak…

    What is clear is that some of the flak he's been receiving from the media over immigration recently (I referred to it in my earlier reference to the BBC earlier) is spoiling tactics from some parts of the media but it's no good Reform just saying "We will deport (pick a number) immigrants" without a plan based on law. The numbers being bandied about are a reflection of the Home Office's complicity in this dangerous shambles, with furious arguments going on about how many illegal immigrants there are, how they are classified, and how to remove them. This is where the BBC in its element.

    If any opposition party or spokesman puts forward a credible plan to remove immigrants, based on existing law, then Max & Co will simply smother the statute book with a spider's web of new human rights legislation that will take an age to unpick. As it stands, everyone's got 3-4 years to think about it…unless something truly momentous happens and Max is suddenly turned out on his ear, at which point everyone has to be ready. Let's hope Reform (and even the Tories) have something in mind but under wraps. They'd be fools to let the media unpick it now.

    1. Farage Today.

      The scourge of illegal migration we have seen in this country over the last five years is historic and unprecedented. Over 180,000 illegal migrants have crossed the English Channel since 2018. The estimated population of people with no lawful right to remain in the United Kingdom now almost certainly stands above 1,000,000.
      Their continuing presence corrodes the rule of law, costs billions in accommodation and welfare, distorts low-wage labour markets and signals to the world that Britain’s borders are open.
      Put simply, we all know the scale of the problem. This is now undisputedly the single biggest issue in our politics today. The British people have had enough, yet not a single politician has managed to get a grip on this national security emergency.
      In the run-up to the 2024 general election, Rishi Sunak told us he would “stop the boats.” His plan was to send migrants to Rwanda, but not a single flight ever got off the ground. The exercise was a complete waste of money.
      Then along came Keir Starmer, this time promising us that he would “smash the gangs.” But the only thing the Prime Minister has really smashed is illegal migration records; 51,000 have crossed the English Channel since he became PM. That’s up nearly 50% on the year before.
      The British public want this issue dealt with, end of story. The actions of those brave and concerned parents in Epping are the clearest example yet that ordinary, decent people have simply had enough.
      There is only one way to stop people coming into Britain illegally, and that is to detain them and deport them. The time for bold action has arrived.
      Today at Oxford Airport I unveiled Reform UK’s plans to deport these illegal migrants. Our plans will be known as Operation Restoring Justice.
      In 2029, a Reform government will leave the ECHR, repeal the Human Rights Act and pass the Illegal Migration (Mass Deportation) Bill. As the title says, the aim of this new legislation is mass deportations — and the bill opens with a blunt obligation that will create a legal duty for the Home Secretary to remove illegal migrants. Failure to do so will mean breaking the law.
      Under these new plans, if you come to the UK illegally you will be ineligible for asylum. No ifs, no buts. This strips the Home Office, the immigration tribunals and the higher courts of any jurisdiction to consider claims. A claim that cannot be considered cannot suspend removal, and therefore cannot delay a flight. The message to the young, undocumented males in Calais will be loud and clear: if you enter the UK illegally, you will never be able to claim asylum — you will be ineligible to stay in this country.
      One of the biggest roadblocks other political parties have faced in dealing with this issue has been menace of human rights lawyers and activist judges. Only my party has the courage to do what must be done and deal with this problem head-on.
      A Reform government will disapply the 1951 Refugee Convention, the UN Convention Against Torture, and the Council of Europe Anti-Trafficking Convention (ECAT). Derogation is justified under the Vienna Convention doctrine of state necessity; Britain faces a national emergency in which uncontrolled illegal migration undermines public order. No longer will these malign influences be allowed to frustrate deportations. The planes will take off, and plenty of them at that.
      The time has come to put this country first. This is all a question of priorities. Is Keir Starmer on the side of the British people, national security and protecting women and girls — or is he on the side of outdated international treaties and human rights lawyers?
      It is very clear which side of this argument my party stands on. We will deal with illegal migration once and for all.

  46. I hope that everything has gone well for Sue Edison today.
    She's had far more than her fair share of treatment setbacks.

    1. My fongers have been crosxed for her. She's too nice a person for shit to happen to her.

          1. I always thought the German Schweinhund was a good insult. And that was before we had to worry about Halal and all that.

            Many years ago, when I first started visiting the various branches of our European operations, I went to Germany. While there I had to look up one of the employees in the internal phone book, Found it a wee bit disconcerting that our local country manager's job title was Fuhrer. I know it just means leader, but I would have though the word would not be in comon usage. After all, they sanitized their National Anthem, post WWII.

          2. Führer.
            In Norwegian, Fører. Also covers driver, such as Lokfører – lokomotive driver.

          3. One gets a bit anal about it.
            u or ü, o or ø, a or å are NOTnthe same character, nor re they pronounced the same.
            I'll get me oat…

          4. Slightly disconcerting to read the word Fuhrer, but imagine the emotions of the US Navy recruiting officer in WWII who was interviewing a certain William Patrick Hitler; he asked jokingly 'Any relation?' and WPH apparently replied 'Yes, he is my father's half-brother…'.

        1. I'm not a linguist, it was a wordplay on victory sieg and show zeig, clearly a fail.
          E – –

  47. I'm feeling a bit tired and I think I'll turn in soon.
    It was raining when I put our waste bin out for collection tmz.
    More on the way hopefully. A lot more.

    1. Good plan, Eddy.
      Apparently, we're getting the UK's leftover rain over the next few days.
      Schlaf gut, mensch.

    2. We haven't had any yet – I did the watering this evening as usual – we 've got numerous receptacles ready to catch a bit if we do get some. All the water butts have been empty for weeks and the pond has virtually dried up. fortunately we have no fish in there now.

    3. It was Bank Holiday on Monday so our bin isn't going out until tomorrow for collection on Thursday. Usual day is Wednesday.

      1. Bin day here is usually Friday, but after a Bank Holiday it's Saturday.
        Blue recycling and Green garden waste Bins this week.

  48. 'Insulting': Union flags being flown upside down in city

    By Phil Wilkinson-Jones, Local Democracy Reporter

    A POLITICAL campaigner has taken aim at "self-styled patriots" after spotting the Union flag being flown upside down in Worcester.

    Liberal Democrat activist Paul Jagger said the majority of the United Kingdom national flags around Perdiswell are being flown the wrong way up.

    "The Union Jack has been flown the wrong way up on most of the poles," said Mr Jagger. "Traditionally, that's actually a distress signal – so perhaps it's more accurate than they intended. If you're going to wrap yourself in patriotism, the least you can do is know which way up the flag goes.

    "Getting it wrong doesn't show national pride – it shows national parody. And to those who genuinely care about our heritage, this kind of ignorance is more insulting than patriotic. Maybe these self-styled patriots need to do their homework."

    Union flags and England flags have appeared on lampposts across the city, with a group called Worcester Patriots saying its motives for putting up flags were "love and unity".

    Mr Jagger said Worcester has every reason to be proud of its community and heritage, but suggested that the flag-raisers "might want to brush up on the basics before telling others what patriotism looks like".

    https://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/25416300.insulting-union-flags-flown-upside-city

    As if a LibDem cares. Snotty little creep!

  49. Phew.
    Sibelius's 2nd Symphony just ended. The last movement of that gets me every time.

  50. This always makes me tear up.
    Played when I got home after Firstborn's really difficult birth – put it on the CD player, and cried like a baby. He was so tiny, and just over 2lbs, and it was such a difficult process culminating in caesarian… bad enough for me as observer, worse for SWMBO as the main player…
    Thanks, Louis. That afternoon, was indeed a wonderful world. I had both my wife and my first child in my life. What could be better?
    https://youtu.be/VqhCQZaH4Vs?si=6IjkCn4komvCM3FE

    1. Good to end the day on a high note, Paul – thanks. All the best to you and yours, Kate x

    2. And this I always associate with my friend Elaine, who killed herself nearly 30 years ago.
      Never forget that suicide has victims also.
      I know I have posted this before… wish I had been a better friend, and given her the support she needed.
      Don't be embarrassed to speak up, folks.
      https://youtu.be/7O049oi2Dxw?si=Z_eDDJGuIpaJ6-s5

      1. No worries.
        Part of my youth, and that is prehistory now. I liked their cockney sparrer approach.

  51. Bedtime approaches. So I wish you all a hearty Good Night. See you early tomorrow morning.

  52. Good grief. The UK economy is on the skids, the Russians are approaching total victory in Ukraine and our useless government wishes to continue supporting a failed regime in Ukraine.

    Our government are by no means alone. The rest of Europe under the utterly misguided leadership of Ursula von der Leyen, a failed German Defence Minister, are advocating giving yet more billions of German taxpayer’s monies to the Green Goblin.

    Meanwhile European economies are falling apart and as for the UK we are already ahead of the game and about to become monetarily destitute.

    Europe is crumbling yet Starmer still intends to take the UK back into that disaster area. The man is at best deranged and in reality certifiable. We are being run by nutters and fruitcakes. How very British!

    1. Am I missing something ?
      Although it seems to have been a very sad and tragic accident. What where they doing in the helicopter in the first place ?

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