Tuesday 26 October: How can the Labour Party ignore the devastating effects of lockdowns?

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524 thoughts on “Tuesday 26 October: How can the Labour Party ignore the devastating effects of lockdowns?

  1. Joanna Lumley says wartime-style rationing could help solve climate crisis. 26 October 2021.

    Joanna Lumley has suggested that a system of rationing similar to that seen during wartime, under which people would have a limited number of points to spend on holidays or lavish consumer goods, could eventually help to tackle the climate crisis.

    “That was how the war was – stuff was rationed – and at some stage I think we might have to go back to some kind of system of rationing, where you’re given a certain number of points and it’s up to you how to spend them, whether it’s buying a bottle of whisky or flying in an aeroplane.”

    Morning everyone. It is not surprising that Lumley as a member of the UK’s Old Empire Elite would advocate such a course. This said It would inevitably apply, as then, only to the serfs since those with the financial means; as during the war, would easily circumvent it. Despite all the propaganda about black marketeering during WWII not one prosecution was ever initiated as the support of the Middle and Upper Classes was deemed vital to support for the war and their cheating the price to be paid for it. So it is here. As the peasants sink into utter serfdom the New Aristocracy must inevitably rise, not only comparatively but deliberately and absolutely since they will be needed to police and rule the new underclass.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/26/joanna-lumley-wartime-rationing-solve-climate-crisis

    1. Joanna Lumley used to get away with it in the Avenger days when she was considered to be the epitome of sexiness. Now that she is no longer sexy she strikes me as being a pretentious, self-satisfied bore but I very much doubt if any other Nottlers will agree with me.

      1. Even if I had liked her before, this comment would have annoyed me. Rationing eh? You first, Joanna.

        1. I had that palaver a month ago, but the 15 y.o. C-Max (diesel natch) came through with flying colours.

    1. Morning Peddy. Absolutely disgraceful! I note that the man has his shopping with him so hardly the “Far-Right” in action!

      1. A store employee claimed he had been shoplifting. So he had to endure that just on her say-so.

          1. Over £100 of shopping in each bag? I thought that the police no longer intervened unless the shop theft exceeded £200?!?!

  2. Sexual Problems

    A man goes to his doctor.
    ‘I have a terrible problem,’ says the man. ‘My wife’s pregnant, but we haven’t had sex in over a year. Is there any way that it would be medically possible for her to get pregnant?’
    ‘Oh, yes,’ replies the doctor. ‘It’s a condition we in the profession call a “grudge pregnancy”; someone has obviously had it in for you.’

    When I came into my hotel room last night, I found a strange blonde in my bed. I would stand for none of that nonsense! I gave her exactly 24 hours to get out. Groucho Marx

    In Therapy
    A psychologist was conducting a group therapy session with four young mothers and their small children. “You all have obsessions,” he observed.
    To the first mother, Mary, he said, “You are obsessed with eating. You’ve even named your daughter Candy.”
    He turned to the second Mom, Ann: “Your obsession is with money. Again, it manifests itself in your child’s name, Penny.”
    He turned to the third Mom, Joyce: “Your obsession is alcohol. This too shows itself in your child’s name, Brandy.”
    At this point, the fourth mother, Kathy, quietly got up, took her little boy by the hand, and whispered, “Come on, Dick, this guy has no idea what he’s talking about. Let’s pick up Peter, Willy, Percy and John Thomas from school and go get dinner.

  3. Be warned: this government is robbing you of your right to challenge the state. 26 October 2021.

    Judicial review is a cornerstone of British democracy. It empowers everyday people to challenge decisions made by public bodies. Whether it be central government or local authorities, rule makers are held accountable by ordinary people. This is a small, but important, check on the balance of powers in our democracy.

    But governments do not like judicial review for this exact reason.

    Given the government’s recent high-profile defeats at the hands of judicial review, their plans to curb it should come as no surprise.

    Hallelujah. Tory MP realises the reality of the “Conservative” Government!

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/25/judicial-review-peoples-right-fight-government-destroy-courts-undemocratic

    1. The Article 50 and prorogation cases were quite the worst examples of judicial review as a ‘challenge to the power of government’. While the latter was a bit of a provocation by Johnson, its actual effect if allowed would have been minimal (and, of course, it was an act of rank hypocrisy for Remainers to complain about loss of parliamentary time). It was also an interference by the courts in the proceedings of Parliament and that is unconstitutional. The former was mere trouble-making and grandstanding by Miller, equally hypocritical in her assertion that she was simply upholding the democratic parliamentary process because “that’s what you Leavers wanted, wasn’t it?”. Yes but we’d already voted for it, dimbo.

    2. The Article 50 and prorogation cases were quite the worst examples of judicial review as a ‘challenge to the power of government’. While the latter was a bit of a provocation by Johnson, its actual effect if allowed would have been minimal (and, of course, it was an act of rank hypocrisy for Remainers to complain about loss of parliamentary time). It was also an interference by the courts in the proceedings of Parliament and that is unconstitutional. The former was mere trouble-making and grandstanding by Miller, equally hypocritical in her assertion that she was simply upholding the democratic parliamentary process because “that’s what you Leavers wanted, wasn’t it?”. Yes but we’d already voted for it, dimbo.

  4. ‘Morning, Peeps.

    The DT teenagers would do well to read and inwardly digest…

    SIR – You suggest that unmanned remotely controlled vessels have never before been deployed by the Royal Navy.

    As impressive as these latest trials may be, it should be remembered that in trials off Dover between May 28 and 31 1918, a flotilla of fast motor boats was successfully remotely controlled from aircraft, and that by 1921 the Royal Navy had converted the semi-dreadnought HMS Agamemnon to radio control. Agamemnon was used as a target ship until she was replaced by the King George V-class dreadnought battleship HMS Centurion in 1926.

    One of the original boats from the 1918 trials, designation CMB9/DCB 1, has been lovingly restored, and parts of the control systems designed by the secret experimental unit of Archibald Low’s Royal Flying Corps during the First World War have survived and are stored at the Imperial War Museum.

    Steve Mills
    Guildford, Surrey

  5. 340504+up ticks,

    Morning Each,

    Tuesday 26 October: How can the Labour Party ignore the devastating effects of lockdowns?

    Are they ? if they are it is part of the farce of being in opposition owing to the fact they are a coalition.

    What amazes me is that they are still, any of them, being able to act out a farce in parliament after their actions these past four decades.

    1. Yo ogga

      I understand that now, when MPs enter the Chamber, an Usher (who can identify each and every Member) is on
      hand, to tell them which side of the House that they belong to and where to sit

      1. 340504+ up ticks,
        Morning OLT,
        In my book they are interchangeable, one issue of proof is that the tory (ino) party took up where the lab (ino) party left off after the rotherham revealing by the Jay report & are still continuing to do it via DOVER.

  6. Morning all

    SIR – How on earth can the Labour Party possibly support more restrictions and potentially a further lockdown when the effects – on the economy, general health, the impacts of other more serious diseases, and on life itself – are so devastating?

    How can it not see that these effects are greatest among its core supporters?

    Nick Stokes

    Devizes, Wiltshire

    SIR – The question of whether to instigate Plan B is rightly at the centre of current debate. What would help the public enormously would be for the Government to provide a clear argument for its thinking.

    Instead, we have a series of weak, confused and confusing messages that appear to change depending on which minister is paraded in the media each morning.

    We need assurances that things are under control, that there is a well-thought-through strategy in place and that whatever short-term pain is to be endured is done so on the basis of sound scientific knowledge and experience.

    Alan James

    Shrewsbury

    SIR – My medically vulnerable adult son received a text from the NHS saying it was time to book his Covid booster jab. He rang 119 as instructed and supplied his personal details and the date of his second jab, only to be told that he didn’t qualify as it was only six months and three days since that jab and it needed to be six months and one week.

    When he asked for an appointment four days later he was told it was not possible, and when he inquired what to do next the instruction was: “Ring back next Wednesday.”

    Roger Storey

    Nottingham

    SIR – There might be an explanation for why people are not turning up for Covid booster jabs. I tried the “manage your booking” section on the NHS website. It doesn’t exist, in reality. You can only book, not un-book.

    After a 15-minute wait, listening to the world’s longest guitar solo, a cheerful young woman at a call centre agreed: “That’s right, sir. And we can’t cancel them here either, I’m afraid.”

    What actually happens is that the NHS just hopes a drop-in customer, suitably vaccinated for six months, can fill the slot.

    Phil Dennett

    Burgess Hill, West Sussex

    SIR – Is there any chance of having a party to vote for at the next election that will not blindly throw yet more funds at the NHS?

    This notion that healthcare and its provision is and can be free is ridiculous. Those who believe that spending more somehow delivers greater efficiencies are living in a fool’s paradise.

    Richard Jones

    Chedburgh, Suffolk

    Green hypocrisy

    SIR – Almost all aspects of our daily lives are increasingly governed by concerns over climate change and damage to the environment.

    Why is it, then, that we are seeing a steady rise in the number of water pollution incidents, such as at Windermere, the loss of wildlife sites to infrastructure projects (HS2 and others), and last week MPs rejecting amendments to the Environment Bill aimed at protecting bees and limiting pollution?

    If we cannot practise the policies we preach at a national level, how can we hope to stop wilful destruction at a local level? In the past two years I have witnessed the felling of a long bank of ancient trees, the bulldozing of local wildlife habitats, and the destruction of a length of river bank within a site of special scientific interest. All have been carried out without any formal repercussions, but at what cost to biodiversity, water and air quality?

    Linda Smith

    Chard, Somerset

    SIR – The West’s virtue-signalling pursuit of net zero without the active participation of China will not avert the coming global climate change disaster. What it will do is drive increasing fuel poverty in our poorest communities and render our industries even less competitive.

    If we are convinced that a global net-zero strategy is vital to save our planet, it follows that punitive trade sanctions must be taken against those nations not prepared to participate. The alternative for the West is pointlessly to impoverish itself.

    Alan Stedall

    Sutton Cold

    1. How can it not see that these effects are greatest among its core supporters?

      Nick Stokes Devizes, Wiltshire

      But, those who ‘run’ the Labour (in name only) Party, all live in Islington, where shortages would not be allowed

  7. John Redwood on GBNews last night with Nigel Farage. Mark Steyn on the following GBNews programme. GB News also has half hourly news updates and has access to Parliament activities. It looks as if GBNews is finding its feet.

        1. Aren’t we all? Why doesn’t he speak out in the HoC? Vote against the shower posing as a government.

        2. I would say that Johnson had lost it completely but I am beginning to think he never had it to lose in the first place. As I have said before: Boris puts the poop in nincompoop.

    1. 340504+ up ticks,

      Morning Cs,
      IMO Gb news MUST be treated with great caution, I see it as a tailored media setup to seemingly highlight
      everyday issues in a combative manner.

      1. 340504+ up ticks,

        Neil Olivier, good man, we will see how long he reigns on GB news, if he is allowed to continue truthsaying all well and goo, if otherwise it shows it is wise to be cautious.

  8. Good Moaning.
    I’ve discovered a new way to spell hypocrite: K N O B. An alternative version is C R O O K.
    An item on the gent wot glued his face to the tarmac.

    “Mr Tulley has been a director of several companies, including one that produced single-use medical devices. His most recent venture, Solid Carbon Storage, allows for people to “offset” their carbon emissions by paying to bury charcoal at the bottom of a quarry.

    The South Yorkshire-based company does this by buying the charcoal from Namibia, before it is loaded onto pallets in South Africa, and then transported by sea freight and road transport back to the UK.

    Carbon offsetting projects such as this have been criticised by environmental groups for not adequately tackling climate change.”

    1. Morning Anne. In all fairness it looks as though he was just trying to get his share of this Gigantic Scam!

    2. Morning Anne. In all fairness it looks as though he was just trying to get his share of this Gigantic Scam!

    3. Paying to bury charcoal at the bottom of a quarry! Bwahahahaha!

      I am seriously behind the curve on this one. I had not thought of taking advantage of all that gullibility and belief in the Religion of the Great Carbon Footprint.

      1. ‘Charcoal’ used to start its’ life at the bottom of a quarry

        We called it Opencast Coal mining

    4. This crooked knob, deserved to have his glue-face ripped from the tarmac by an irate driver, be picked up and carried to the crash barrier and be thrown over, just like the rubbish he is.

      Thank you, Anne for just one little chance to vent my spleen.

    1. ‘Morning, Belle.

      Not really surprising. The water companies have been given the GREEN light to carry on dumping.

      1. Good Morning Peter

        Damp morning in these Dorsetty parts .

        I was pleased to read your 16 year old diesel car passed the MOT.

        My no 1 son has a 20 year old diesel Passat which has passed its MOT every year . He fitted a new turbo earlier on in the year , the car has done 267,000 miles .

        He is very proud of his car . He says that electric cars have a short life cycle , super fast chargers diminish the life of the battery,

        Moh and I also have diesels, and their fuel economy is wonderful .

        If diesel cars pass their emissions test , what on earth is the problem?

  9. ‘Morning again.

    A remarkable serviceman of immense ability and achievement:

    Air Chief Marshal Sir John Rogers, Cold War fighter pilot who later oversaw procurement of all military aircraft and associated weapon systems – obituary

    He also had a passion for motorsport and took part in events at Silverstone and Brands Hatch, his cars including Aston Martins and a Darracq

    By
    Telegraph Obituaries
    25 October 2021 • 2:25pm

    Air Chief Marshal Sir John Rogers, who has died aged 93, was a former aircraft apprentice and Cold War fighter pilot who rose to serve on the Air Force Board of the Defence Council.

    Rogers became Controller Aircraft (CA) in the MoD in January 1983, a job in which he was responsible for the procurement of all military aircraft and associated weapon systems – a complex process involving, political, industrial and financial interests.

    A new aircraft type could not be used by the forces without a CA Release, which Rogers would issue once all the necessary system testing had been satisfactorily carried out. CA was also responsible for post design services on in-service aircraft.

    Rogers worked closely with industry and the MoD’s procurement executive. He met regularly with all his project directors and conducted individual reviews with them every quarter. He was regarded as strict but very knowledgeable and fair by all his staff.

    Among many other projects at that time, he had the overall responsibility for the procurement of the Tornado and Hawk aircraft, and the in-service support for the Phantom and Buccaneer aircraft.

    John Robson Rogers was born in Brentwood, Essex on January 11 1928. He was educated at Brentwood School and in 1944 joined the RAF as an aircraft apprentice.

    For three years he trained as a ground radio fitter. He finished near the top of the order of merit and was awarded a cadetship at the RAF College Cranwell where he completed his training as a pilot. He was commissioned in April 1950 and began training as a night fighter pilot.

    Rogers’ long association with fighter aircraft commenced when he joined 141 Squadron, which was equipped with the Mosquito. After six months he headed for Egypt where he joined 219 Squadron, based at Kabrit in the Canal Zone, and where he became the squadron’s tactics instructor.

    With regular detachments to Malta, Cyprus, Libya and Iraq, three months of the year was spent away from his base on the shores of the Great Bitter Lakes. Before leaving Egypt, the Mosquitos were replaced by the night-fighter version of the twin-engine Meteor jet fighter.

    On his return to Britain after three years in Egypt, he joined the All Weather Development Squadron of the Central Fighter Establishment. The Meteor was still operational but was being replaced by the delta-wing Gloster Javelin, and Rogers and his fellow aircrew were responsible for devising and developing all-weather and night fighting tactics.

    By 1956 he was a highly experienced and accomplished fighter pilot and was sent to the USAF’s Tyndall Air Force base in Florida for three years to train pilots and weapons system operators on all-weather and night fighters.

    His return to Britain in January 1960 saw him appointed to command 56 Squadron at Wattisham in Suffolk. The squadron was flying the Hunter, but by the end of the year it began to receive the new supersonic Lightning aircraft. Fully equipped by the following spring, the squadron carried out a number of long-range flights pioneering the use of air-to-air refuelling.

    After serving as the personal staff officer to the Commander-in-Chief Fighter Command, Rogers took command of the Air Fighting Development Squadron at the Central Fighter Establishment. The latest version of the Lightning was entering service and Rogers flew many trial flights.

    In early 1965, the then Labour Government cancelled a number of projects including the replacement for the RAF’s long-serving Hunter. It was decided to procure the US-built Phantom powered by Rolls-Royce Spey engines.

    With his previous experience of service with the USAF, and his wide experience of fighter operations, Rogers left for Washington in April 1965 to be the RAF Phantom Procurement Manager, a post he held for almost three years, to oversee an initial order for 200 aircraft, later substantially reduced.

    In February 1968, he became the station commander at RAF Coningsby, the base selected for the first Phantom units. He first oversaw the considerable work programme to prepare the former V-bomber base for Phantom operations. The first aircraft arrived direct from the US in August and flying training began almost immediately. By the time Rogers relinquished command, two squadrons and a training unit were operational.

    In August 1970 he moved to HQ 38 Group as group captain operations, the parent group for the Phantom squadrons, in addition to other front-line squadrons. On promotion to air commodore, he served as a director of operational requirements in MoD.

    Rogers returned to the RAF College Cranwell in January 1974 to take up the post of Deputy Commandant. He was also responsible for the newly established Department of Air Warfare, which provided specialist courses in air weapons, navigation and electronic warfare.

    After attending the 1976 Royal College of Defence Studies course, he was promoted to air vice-marshal to become the Director General of Organisation in MoD. In November 1979 he became the Air Officer Commanding Training Units, which gave him responsibility for supervising all aspects of air and ground training in the RAF. A proud moment came when he presented his son David with his pilot’s wings.

    Rogers was appointed to the Air Force Board in July 1981 as the Air Member for Supply and Organisation his responsibilities including engineering, equipment and RAF organisation and the RAF Regiment. After 18 months in post, and promotion to air chief marshal, he remained on the Air Force Board to take up the appointment of Controller Aircraft.

    He retired from the RAF in March 1986 having been appointed CBE (1971) and KCB (1982). He was elected a Fellow of the Royal Aeronautical Society in 1983.

    During his RAF career he maintained his long-standing interest in motorsport, and in the late 1980s took part in many events at Silverstone, Brands Hatch, Cadwell, and Donington Park. By this time, he had acquired LM6, a 1931 Aston Martin Team car, and regularly featured in races in the same event as his two sons who took it in turns to drive their second Aston Martin Le Mans.

    His motoring hobby eventually turned into a second career and in 1986 he became a director of David Wickens’ British Car Auctions, which encouraged him to renew collecting. His daughter’s wedding became a spur to buy a 1923 Rolls Royce. His job took him all over the world to different motoring events, and he regularly competed in classic car trials.

    His involvement in the organisation of the Brighton Run led him to take part driving an Orient Buckboard, which he described as, “Not my shrewdest choice. We never got to Brighton. My sons picked me up and we decided to get a serious motor car.” He acquired a 1904 Darracq.

    Rogers considered himself to be a “rebuilder” rather than a “restorer”. He acknowledged that he was no purist and commented: “I like things original but it is not a fetish. Cars are for driving. I like to drive them and I like something to do with them. That’s why I like the RAC’s three classic car runs.”

    In 1989 he became the executive chairman of RAC Motor Sports Association, a position he held for 10 years before being made a Life Vice-President. In 1995 he became a member of the Federation International d’Automobile (FIA) World Motor Sport Council, a role which took him to many international Formula 1 motorsports events as governing official and UK representative.

    In 1955 John Rogers married Elspeth Campbell. She survives him with their two sons and two daughters.

    Air Chief Marshal Sir John Rogers, born January 11 1928, died October 11 2021

    * * *

    The reference to long-range flights for the Lightnings of 56 Sqn presumably involved the early Victor tankers, as the Lightning’s endurance was pretty poor – superb, world-beating performance (“rocketship”) but not for long!

    1. I knew him when I was a C/T on the Lightnings – decent bloke. Other famous RAF apprentices include Sir Frank Whittle…..and ME!

  10. PM call with President Putin of Russia: 25 October 2021.

    President Putin expressed his regret that he would not be able attend the COP26 Summit in person in the light of the coronavirus situation in Russia.

    The Prime Minister was clear that the UK’s current relationship with Russia is not the one we want. He said significant bilateral difficulties remain, including the poisonings in Salisbury in 2018. The Prime Minister also underscored the importance of Ukrainian sovereignty.

    Though this is an official announcement its one sided brevity is a clue to its real substance. It fails to say for example, who initiated this phone call, and for that reason, among others, it was almost certainly the UK. That this was a desperate plea for support and attendance at COP24 motivated purely by self-interest on the part of Johnson seems undeniable. Had Putin agreed we would be treated to a much more emollient report. If anything justifies Vlad’s position as the world’s greatest statesman it is surely his ability to rise above his personal feelings and do what is best for his country. Subject to a ferocious personal propaganda campaign that seeks to make him a political pariah, here he is still talking to Boris about serious matters. That is until he declines to attend this COP26 farce and is then treated to a series of insults; not only about Russia but primarily himself. If anyone knows the truth about Fake Salisbury and the true nature of the incident there and the part the West played in destabilising Ukraine it is Vlad and yet he listens patiently. The temptation to respond to this Globalist Stooge as he utters these lies and say what he thinks must be almost irresistible!

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/pm-call-with-president-putin-of-russia-25-october-2021

  11. Good morning all. Will not be on for long, I’m up lade and need to get across to Colsterworth to pick up things from the former North Witham airfield.
    6°C, cloudy, dull but dry at the moment, but rain forecast.

  12. A BTL

    We need assurances that things are under control, that there is awell-thought-through strategy in place and that whatever short-term pain
    is to be endured is done so on the basis of sound scientific knowledge and experience.
    Alan James Shrewsbury

    I agree with Mr James, however, I cannot see this ‘government’ being able to fulfill just one of your requirements, on any matter

    We are having the life sucked out of us.

    Covid is the Symptom of what is wrong with the Country

    The Defect is the Government:

    When your house is on fire, you do not call in the decorators

    When you have a ‘pandemic’ an energy shortage, immigrants arriving by the thousand, alleged climate problems, a sensible Government would look to
    solve those problems, not make everything electric, by 2030, when we cannot even generate enough “Green” Power in 2021

    1. Yo Tryers.

      You know what your problem is, don’t you?
      You have been thinking … and have added
      two and two to make four! :-))

      1. Yo T_B

        Boris is the Lemming in Chief but is not leading us: he is pushing from behind,

        We will go over the cliff however Boris and Nut Nutz will Carrie On Regardless

    2. Morning, OLT.

      The BIG question: is this government doing what it is doing because it is incompetent beyond belief; by deliberate action or a combination of both?
      With Johnson allegedly at the helm, Patel at HO, the Creep at Education and the other the no-marks in the Cabinet, my money is on the third option.

  13. Only seven more weeks!

    At 15.58 on 21st December, 2021
    the Winter Solstice starts;
    from 22nd. December daylight time
    will increase.
    However this certainty is not guaranteed
    to cast more light on HMG .

    1. Yo Gg

      Thanks for saying from 22nd. December daylight time will increase.and not the days will get longer

  14. Read and weep:

    Today, even a game of bingo can be turned into a trans issue

    To deflect from its problem with male sexual violence, Oxfam has made feminism its enemy – using the barmy jargon of extreme gender ideology

    SUZANNE MOORE
    26 October 2021 • 5:00am

    Now, it seems, even bingo is offensive. Oxfam has been selling a board game called Wonder Woman Bingo that, instead of using numbers, celebrates 48 inspirational women, the likes of Jane Austen, Rosa Parks, Greta Thunberg, Malala Yousafzai. Lovely idea, with a little bit of feminism thrown in, and all for a good cause. What could possibly go wrong?

    Well, just about everything. This weekend, the game was taken off charity shop shelves because of “concerns from our transgender and non-binary colleagues”.

    Was it the presence of writers JK Rowling and Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, both of whom have publicly spoken about the material reality of sex and therefore incurred the wrath of certain trans activists? Or was it the inclusion of Oscar-nominated star Elliot Page, previously known as Ellen Page, that offended them?

    The makers of the game, which first went on sale in August last year, months before Page came out as transgender, have offered to update the game using Elliot’s new identity, but Oxfam has refused to budge. Game over.

    Seeing as almost every Oxfam shop relies on the unpaid labour of mostly women, I wonder who complained? I also wonder why Oxfam is so concerned about not offending the tiny trans minority, given its own highly publicised recent “issues” with women, which includes the 16 cases of alleged sexual harassment of young women under 18 who work in its shops?

    Sadly, even this is small fry compared with what we know about the internal culture of Oxfam. In 2018, the charity was banned from receiving UK government aid for three years following investigations into how staff in earthquake-hit Haiti had abused young women. Its country director Roland Van Hauwermeiren had resigned in 2011, following an internal investigation that found troubling evidence of young prostitutes being abused at the charity’s rented villa. That early report into the child abuse scandal was censored, with the names of sacked workers removed.

    In April this year, soon after Oxfam’s three-year ban on receiving government aid expired, it suspended two more workers amid new sex exploitation claims, this time in Congo.

    What has any of this to do with a game of bingo?

    Oxfam realised it had a problem with male sexual violence – or “sex for aid”, as it was described during the Haiti scandal. But how did it decide to educate its staff about this serious matter? It put together a new training manual – one that preaches the new religion that, somehow, the fault of sexual exploitation lay with the “racism” of white women.

    An internal document, entitled “Learning about trans rights and inclusions”, asserts that, as mainstream feminism centres on privilege, white women’s demands that “bad men” are fired harm all marginalised people. Right…

    In the jargon – and there is much about these days – this is known as “carceral feminism”, the idea being that when women complain about sexual violence, they are reinforcing white supremacy, and basically imprisoning black men. Is this not, in fact, a massive deflection from what had actually been happening? Which was white aid workers abusing young black children?

    Oxfam’s LGBT network also recommended its staff read Me, Not You: The Trouble with Mainstream Feminism, summarising this work as saying that white feminists may be causing harm when they complain about men. It also says: “Single-sex spaces for women may contribute to transphobia and undermine trans rights.” You have to admire the gall here. An organisation accused of sexual exploitation now turns feminism into its enemy by using the currently barmy jargon of extreme trans ideology in order not to protect women and girls.

    It’s not just Oxfam, I’m afraid. Deflection is now threaded through so many of our institutions. Such madness is everywhere.

    In February, when women were on the street marching for abortion rights in Poland, Amnesty International could not bring itself to support Polish women – only Polish “people”.

    In this drive to be inclusive, half the population are locked out, as much of what is said is simply meaningless. Every big organisation is held to ransom by the very idea of offending trans activists; women can go hang. The BBC podcast series Nolan Investigates has exposed the extent of Stonewall’s lobbying of our public institutions on this.

    What were the campaign group Girls Night In thinking when they thought they could organise a boycott of nightclubs because of the growing problem of girls’ drinks being spiked? Didn’t they know you can no longer use the words “girls” or “women”? For even when you are trying to combat male violence, you must now include men. We are truly through the looking glass.

    Last week, Girls Night In released this statement: “We are anti-racist, anti-misogyny, gender inclusive, pro-LGBT+, pro-trans people, pro-disabled people, pro-sex worker, anti-carceral and pro-community support movement. These are not just words, we will be changing our approach. We are sorry for any harm our campaign has caused.”

    It has also agreed to change its logo, taking the name of the local places involved, such as Bristol Night In, instead.

    When inclusivity means you can no longer talk about male violence… bingo! A full house, indeed.

    1. I am trying to be sympathetic, but the Feminazis brought this on themselves.
      It is the logical (!!!) conclusion of their extreme attitudes.

    1. I posted the ‘Electric car’ image on Farcebook and it said it was a false image, I was a naughty boy and I would be relegated if I did something of that nature again. Something similar started in Germany about 1933.

    1. When I was 18 I took a bet with a friend that I could beat him going up the down escalator at Leicester Square Underground Station which was, at the time, the longest in London. I won the bet but I very much doubt whether I could even get up the shortest escalator going up now – not that I intend to use the London Underground ever again.

      .

      1. Gosh. Now I remember. When I was twelve I ran up the stairs at the French Institute in Randolph Crescent, a big NewTown house. The stairs were curved with a 20 foot long landing on every floor. There were about six floors. I timed myself. I then worked out that I had raised my body weight by around 60 feet in however many seconds so worked out the horsepower. I cannot remember the formula or the answer. I did it a few times over a period of a year. Nobody noticed.

  15. DT headline:

    “Animal rights protesters scale Home Office to demand UK switches to vegan diets
    The activists from Animal Rebellion have also climbed the the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs and plan to drop a banner”

    One can only hope that gravity is feeling particularly strong today…

  16. Teach burping cows to be polite? Children have found a politician who speaks their language
    Boris Johnson was put through his paces discussing climate change with children in Downing Street ahead of Cop26

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/10/25/teach-burping-cows-polite-children-have-found-politician-speaks/

    One of the best BTL comments by a person called Phillipa Squeak:

    Why is our Royal Family getting involved in the political climate change scam, when they have stayed out of politics up until now?”

    It looks to me as if the nincompoop father and son duo, Charles and William, are guilty of old person abuse and have dragged their elderly mother/grandmother into a shark-infested area where she would never have ventured without being pressurised to do so.

    1. The other questions Ms Squeak put on behalf of the children whom Boris Johnson was boring to death:

      The Children:

      “What are you going to do about the Cop26 meeting ending up a flop when China, India, Russia and Saudi Arabia are not attending?”

      “Do you agree that the dignitaries that are attending are all hypocrites when they fly in by private jets and have gas-guzzling cars to ferry them about?”

      “Do you believe in fairies at the bottom of the garden, if you believe everything a Swedish teenager with autism says?”

      Boris:

      Bluster and “Blah, blah, blah”. B*lls*it.

  17. 340504+ up ticks,

    Brexit champion Nigel Farage has declared that teaching Critical Race Theory-style concepts such as ‘white privilege’ in schools is part of a Marxist attempt to make white people hate their country, their history, and themselves.

    Gettaway, is that so nige.

    On the day that counted there were millions of Brextiexit champions,

    1. Only just noticed has he? After sabotaging the only party that would have dealt with it head on if it were still functioning.

    1. I wonder if he ever gives a thought to South Shields (the constituency where his parachute landed),

  18. Yesterday evening, BBC East Midlands subjected its viewers to almost 20 minutes of eco-lectures, with stories of the wonders of heat-exchangers in Edwardian houses and the brilliance of ‘Insulation Plus’ in newly built community flats, with their solar panels powering their ‘Community Energy Battery’. The continuing threat of flooding was thrown in just to make sure that everyone was aware of the dangers and to shame them into action. If there were still any doubters after all that, Dr Sandra Lee of Leicester University was wheeled on to talk about the selfishness of conspicuous consumption and the virtue of ‘community’ – after all, if we can all come together to counter the threat of covid, we can do the same for carbon, can’t we?

    Here’s Sandra!
    https://uk.linkedin.com/in/sandra-lee-95466b16
    https://schools.leicester.gov.uk/media/3236/sandra-lee.pdf

      1. When is Attenborough going to do us a favour and help with the population problem by popping off? Mind you, the way the RF sucks up to him, he’ll probably get a state funeral!

    1. The World Service – once capable if boring me to sleep – has become infested with greenie tripe, to the point where I have to turn it off before my blood pressure gets the better of me. Unfortunately the BBC is loving every minute on Con 26. Here at Janus Towers we are instigating a ‘news’ blackout forthwith.

      Wake me up when they drop from sheer exhaustion.

    1. Happy Birthdate JR

      Hope Sue Ellen is treating you well and not trying to kill you

      364 Happy Unbirthdays for the coming year

      1. Thanks for birthday greetings and yes, there are several elephants in out political system busily trampling on our civilization whilst pretending to be victims.

    2. An excellent summary. I have been thinking recently about one aspect. The security services invariably decide that terror attacks only involve the active participants. Which is why the parents of the Arena bomber have not been extradited to the UK. It is presumably why the bomber’s brother was allowed to leave this country despite being required as a witness. And so it goes. The close families of terrorists are shocked and surprised. They knew nothing. As muslims are well known to have very close family ties, sharing houses etc, this is unbelievable. It is not true. Of course they knew.
      Is there a list of muslims who have given evidence against bombers, murderers and rapists? No there is not. That page is even more blank than those of the fabled “Book of Italian War Heroes”.
      So what do our security services really do? Do they take entire families into custody for lengthy interrogation? No, they do not. Our security people do little more than tidy up the core of the mess. They do not investigate connections, they do not carry out dawn raids on associates. They do not ransack mosques for inflammatory material – Heaven forfend – these are not Christian churches to be entered and desecrated as they please.

      1. We lived in a strict Muslim country for many years.

        Closeness of families, and strong support for members of their family, is one of their more endearing traits.

        We can assure readers that Muslims would not do anything important without considerable prior discussion with their family.

      2. We lived in a strict Muslim country for many years.

        Closeness of families, and strong support for members of their family, is one of their more endearing traits.

        We can assure readers that Muslims would not do anything important without considerable prior discussion with their family.

    1. It really p*sses me off when people talk about ‘deprived areas’ not having something when it in fact it is FREE.

    2. We have more “cases” because we do more testing and when you run PCR at 45 cycles, the results are whatever you want them to be. I know someone who tests every day. Madness.

      1. Seems to me that people have a test when they are not ill! If you are ill then stay at home. It’s not rocket science.

      2. Seems to me that people have a test when they are not ill! If you are ill then stay at home. It’s not rocket science.

    3. Or… because we were testing vast numbers of children and students due to the academic year.

      Cases rose. Once that testing stops, cases will. The test itself is inspecific. If you want to find Joe Bloggs, you don’t start by looking for J*.

  19. https://twitter.com/True_Belle/status/1452934427101835267

    Border Force would not explain the nature of the incident, despite requests
    But HM Coastguard confirmed it was a rescue operation it was coordinating
    It sent a helicopter and fixed wing aircraft to look for anyone in the waters
    It said it was looking for a vessel that needed rescuing and its inhabitants
    The waters are used by people smugglers to try and get migrants into the UK

    1. It said it was looking for a vessel that needed rescuing and its inhabitants

      Vessels DO NOT HAVE INHABITANTS*, they have Passengers and crew

      *Well, apart from wheelless Tintents that roam our canals….

      1. Perhaps the people on board have been on there for months, as has been the case with Somalian’s traveling to Oz.

      2. The journalist probably meant “occupants” but had the current journalistic difficulty of distinguishing between “your” and “you’re” as well as between “pore over” and “pour over”.

    2. Can we have a whip round and get the Russians to sort this out they are the only people who seem to know what is what. They sorted out the pirates off the coast of Somalia and now off the coast of Nigeria.

    1. This is an interview with Gorbachev. I concur with what he has to say about the Russian people and war and what he has to say about Putin. Perhaps because of my background, which results in me knowing something about Russia and its history and the mentality of Russian people, I take Western propaganda against Russia with a grain of salt. In fact I regard the West as motivated by evil intentions against a country that has no nefarious intentions against us save those cooked up in the paranoid minds of Western politicians and their civil servants.

      The former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev full interview – BBC News
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYVsKoQXATY&list=TLPQMjUxMDIwMjFKHzzCPiInTw&index=22

      1. Pie in the sky Gorby.I remember when everyone agreed to get rid of chemical weapons.
        The US still have their’s.

    2. Maybe. However, the Royal Navy has given up its role in protecting shipping. So the Russians may be filling that space. I guess that they also use the Canal.

    3. Why would anyone site a naval base up at the end of a creek, surrounded by sand? No depth of water, pinchpoint access – terrible location.

  20. I expect Sir David should be commenting on this, but he seems to be blaming Europeans for anything that has gone wrong with the climate.
    Most African towns and cities have streets filled with general waste and nobody seems to want to pick it it up, although they have plenty of people available to do it. Good to see some locals taking the rouble to try and put things right. Not sure it will catch on.
    At least this time we can’t be blamed for this particular disaster………..not yet any way.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/video/news/lake-victoria-s-massive-pollution-africa-s-largest-lake-is-dying/vi-AAPVKPj?ocid=msedgntp

      1. You misunderstand, It is actually a criticism of us. Thanks to White Colonialism they have industrialized and we caused that due to the basic evil of the Industrial Revolution. We are entirely to blame. We all know that, according to Liberals, Blacks are far to intellectually weak and far to morally helpless to take the blame and do anything about their predicament. So get the sack cloth and ashes out, it’s YOUR FAULT!

    1. Africans have become wealthier , so they can afford stuff to create more waste .

      Decades ago , Africans use to recycle stuff, please have a look at these …https://www.ecostreet.com/13-distinctly-african-recycled-objects/

      So clever and innovative .. infact they are so clever at make and do. , stuff works .

      I think they have become so overwhelmed with rubbish now , as have we.

      Christmas and children create mega mounds of rubbish , look at all the plastic toys that are discarded down the local tip .

    2. Worst bit is it’s probably mostly our waste.

      Under the WEEE ew’re not allowed to produce above a certain amount, so we pack it in shipping containers to Africa and India where ‘recycling arrangements’ are made . we get a certificate and feel good about ourselves, they get pollution – and promptly throw it in the rivers and sea.

        1. Without the simple expedient, Sue, of boiling the water first.

          I could almost suspect you of subscribing to my ethos of – FOAD.

    1. Last I heard, some IB loons are due in court at end of November. Why so long? Contrasts with Tommy Robinson’s Contempt of Court process, where he was arrested, charged, found guilty and imprisoned all on the same day.

      1. The court doens’t like Robinson. It far and away wants to stop him talking about the concerns of everyday men and women.

        That said, he did go too far in jeopardising the trial of the Pakistani Muslim paedophile rapists. Heck, maybe government was angry that now it couldn’t let them off with a warning if people knew about it.

        1. I think I recall that the trial was over and the rapists were turning up for sentencing so TR could not influence the trial.

      2. Robinson was a dangerous criminal because he actually had the public behind him and the establishment can’t have that. Besides that he is working class and it is never good for them to have ideas, it makes them dangerous as the Duke of Wellington knew only to well. God knows, if they mobilized the establishment would have good reason to fear.

      1. By not using existing laws they kick the can down the road and do not do anything. The MPs support this inaction by introducing the intention to make a new law, sometime in the future. It is not a surprise that the police do not use their powers to keep offenders in detention for a day or two, or even until a court appearance, or that the offenders are re-offending within hours of the first arrest.

      2. It is, but the state refused to enforce it as it considered a bunch of very rich, spoiled people complaining about green to be more important than the law.

      3. Perhaps the exasperated drivers who drag them out of the road ought to glue the protesters to something to stop them returning?

          1. That would violate their ‘Yuman Rites” – they could hardly object to being glued to something though as they do it to themselves??

          2. Hmm, Arse Trams?

            If the letter numbers were 5, 4 I might get Smart Arse but that would make me one.

    2. Another injunction has been granted against Insulate Britain protesters, the transport secretary has said, covering the “entire
      strategic road network”.

      I hope, that short sighted Ugly Petal has not taken an injuction out against Insulate Britain protesters.

      All they would need to do is change the name of the group, ie Ynsulate Britten.

      It needs to cover everybody and include such things as

      Groups or individuals who interupt the normal flow of traffic
      Tampering with Traffic Light Controls
      Endless processions over Zebra and Pelican Crossings
      Vehicle Breakdowns
      Staged accidents
      etc

      HOPE THIS HAS NOT GIVEN THEM IDEAS

      1. Cue arguments – expensively in court – about which roads are strategic.
        And what strategy they serve.
        Meanwhile, lawyers book their world cruises and villas in the Dordogne.

    1. Stop writing in title case. it shows you’re an idiot.

      Bah, don’t care about Greta. One day she’ll be forced to choose between her principles or dentistry without novocaine.

      Hurrh hurrrh

        1. To make them ‘Greener’ a Peruvian Native sits by owl shrews nest, waits for a rat to eat the shrew, then salvages its’ hide

          So far, since Greta The Bleater has been ‘famous, enough skins have been collected to make a pencil case

    1. It’s odd how the BBC tries to distort the truth while desperately scrabbling to support the trans.

      As for the ‘walkout’, barely a dozen people did, and only one of them is a trans. They’re a nasty, abuse cult of children seeking affirmation.

  21. I don’t believe Marion Dewar when she says the captain of the aircraft asked the passengers to return to their seats after they all went to one side to view the northern lights as it made the aircraft bank. He would have adjusted the aileron trim to counteract this.

    1. Yo Alec

      Back in 1970 , I was on the proper HMS Ark Royal (R09), at the bottom of South America, when the Captain informed the ship’s company, that we would be sailing past Chay Blythe, who was on his Westward Round the World Single handed Trip

      As we were not at Flying Stations, virtually every one (not on an essentil duty) went to the Portside of the Flight Deck to look.

      The ship’s displacement was about 43,000 tons and the ship did heel to Port as 2000+ hairy assed matelots moved across to see him

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Ark_Royal_(R09)

    1. Yes, in the sense that it is terrible when someone is killed, regardless. No, in as much as constantly rescuing them is no deterrent but an encouragement. I tend to fall on your side of the fence even though I find it morally dubious.

      1. Yes, I agree. I don’t want them dead, but they shouldn’t be there. Shouldn’t be illegally trying to get here. They should be in France, where France will process and house them – France however, seems happy to let gimmigrants defecate in the street.

  22. Quinton de Kock refuses to take knee and pulls out of West Indies game.
    He says he’s done it for his own personal views, and without explanation except that no one can make people do what they don’t want to do. I always did like him.

  23. De Kock misses South Africa T20 World Cup game after refusing to take knee. 26 October 2021.

    “All players had been required, in line with a directive of the CSA Board on Monday evening, to ‘take the knee’ in a united and consistent stance against racism,” the statement continued. “This is also the global gesture against racism that has been adopted by sportspeople across sporting codes because they recognise the power of sport to bring people together.”

    Yes it’s so powerful that it has to tell them what to do. This nevertheless does tell us something about the taking the knee world wide. It’s not voluntary!

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/oct/26/cricket-quinton-de-kock-misses-t20-world-cup-game-south-africa-players-told-take-knee

    1. I never believed it was, Minty! They really don’t do irony, do they? All the ridiculous posturing and willy waving, the ghastly ‘look at me’ adverts, and the idea that they’re all singing from the same hymn sheet, just crashed down about their ears!

      1. Afternoon Sue. They’ve tried to make out that the England Football Team with the ghastly Gareth Southgate are all volunteers!

      2. Afternoon Sue. They’ve tried to make out that the England Football Team with the ghastly Gareth Southgate are all volunteers!

    2. The irony of this just after a white MP has just been slain and our authorities doing their best to close down the story must sail right over all their heads.

    3. I thought the tournament was about playing cricket – not making compulsory political statements.

    4. Strange…i’ve just watched S A against West Indies.The bastards never mentioned his absence!

    5. When I was an RAF apprentice one of my room mates was a guy from Rhodesia called De Kock and he was from a town called Wankie which caused many a laugh

  24. Corbynista channel purged by YouTube. 26 October 2021.

    Steerpike doesn’t browse Novara Media much these days. The Corbynista website has ceased to have much in the way of news value since the Magic Grandpa stood down as Labour leader early last year. Nowadays the unholy trinity of literal communist Ash Sarkar, under-employed YouTuber Michael Walker and David Brent tribute act Aaron Bastani spend most of their time moaning on Twitter about Keir Starmer’s beastliness to their comrades on the left.

    But now Mr S has found an unlikely common cause with the Trotskyite trio. Novara has today announced that Google-owned YouTube has deleted their channel, supposedly without warning or explanation. This follows the news a fortnight ago that a speech by Tory stalwart to Big Brother Watch on vaccine passports had been unceremoniously purged from the same site – again with no prior warning.

    No matter how many times you tell these Marxist Dummies that they will be next as they are calling for someone to be shut up they never learn!

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/corbynista-channel-purged-by-youtube

    1. Novara have already been reinstated. A sceptic might wonder if; it was just a ploy by Twitter to suggest that they block the Leftwaffe and not just those with opposing views to the Leftwaffe, or it’s a nudge to the public that Novara Media still exists. There’s no such thing as bad publicity!

  25. The wife has just brought me home a Thai Green Curry for dinner tonight, just looking at the cooking instructions and I don’t see how it is any better for the environment than any other meal.

  26. 340504+ up ticks,
    Our Alberts gone, brown boots andall, the tories (ino) turned him into a an animal biscuit.

    In a bizarre exchange with children on Monday, Prime Minister Boris Johnson seemingly joked that feeding humans to animals could aid the conservation of wildlife.

    1. He is infiltrating a concept into impressionable young minds that people are disposable, for his nefarious purpose. Johnson is despicable.

  27. Wow!!!! How other half lives …. if you can call it living.
    Across the hairdressers from me was Mrs. Paranoid, 13, Paranoia Avenue.
    Unlike anyone else in the salon, she was masked up. She spent the entire time scrolling through her phone, checking on her doorbell. When somebody walked up to the door, she rang her neighbour to check out whoever dared to sully her garden path.

    Meanwhile, I sat there reading about how IPA and Madeira wine were developed.

    1. Afternoon Anne. I went to the bus stop this morning and the old dear who fell over and hurt her face last week has had an awakening. She has realised that there is something wrong with an inoculation that does not inoculate you. There is hope yet!

  28. Devastated mother of Brentwood stab victim, 16, tells friends of heartache at losing her ‘first born child’ 26 October 2021.

    The devastated mother of a 16-year-old boy who was stabbed to death in a ‘targeted’ ambush has told of her heartache at losing her ‘first born child’ – as police quiz eight men over the double killing.

    Charlie Preston died on a street in Brentwood, Essex, in the early hours of Sunday morning after he was attacked by a group of men, two of whom are in their forties.

    Well the two victims are white! We have to wait to find out what shade the perpetrators are!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10131757/Mother-Brentwood-stab-victim-16-tells-friends-heartache.html

    1. A puzzled pensioner writes: What were two 16 year olds doing out in the middle of the night? Perhaps the “devastated” mother (single, no doubt) could have spent more time ensuring her children were home in bed ….

      Just saying.

  29. A brilliant 2½ hour talk about Edward Seago. Never knew about his early years – entirely self-taught; lived with circus folk. Then branched out.

    And a very good speaker – knowledgeable and amusing.

      1. The Last Goon Show of All is on BBC4 this evening…can’t remember the time but think it’s about 10.

        1. Ah, long time, no read Viviane/Vivien/Ninianne or Nimue., welcome back.

          Thanks for the heads up but I have it saved on an external hard drive, together with about 20,000 other tracks, mostly music 1950s to early 70s – then I lost interest.

          1. We are OK but it’s been a horrid year all round. We’ll both be relieved when we get into 2022.
            Hope you and yours are also well.

        1. Yes, well done!

          It is at the western mouth of the Seine and opposite le Havre to the east. You have to lock in and out of the harbour.

    1. Well, I think the first line of her Tweet tells us all we need to know about her “Not a big klaxon person, but…”
      Oh yes you are, Rachel, yes you are. I don’t feel the need to announce my every little triumph on Twit.

      She is too simple to realise that she is on the wrong side of history.

    2. Her announcement does read as a specialist in health disinformation and while that’s likely to be true, it’s presumably not her meaning?

    3. That’s an unfortunate job title for the BBC. Disinformation reporter…. Well, yes. We know you report disinformation. It’s BBC policy!

  30. Our NHS today. I Rang doc, dreading receptionist. Quick answer, quick explanation – and quick – “i’ll let the senior pharmacist know to have a word with the doc and get you a call straight back – on your mobile? – yes please”. AMAZED. Next, my home phone goes. Thought it was my mate who I’d told I was waiting for the call on my mobile, messing me about. NO. It was the doctor ????- FOREIGN. Got about 30% of what he said. Tried a few times to explain what I wanted – – STILL couldn’t understand him. Terrible land line AND accent – – , asked him to call me on the mobile number – – he told me he WAS calling my landline ????????? NO – – DOES NOT START WITH 07. Rang my mobile.
    I told him I didn’t want any more of 3 things – – ” GOOD BOY” – HE SAID – ????? I’m retired???
    I had to say goodbye and put the phone down – –
    GOD KNOWS what he’s doing with my meds – because I certanly don’t know.!!!!!!!!
    WE ARE PAYING THIS ??? HOW MUCH??? and he could kill us.
    If you hear nothing from me ever again – – THANK YOU ALL . . . . . BYE FOR NOW
    = = = = = OR FAREWELL.
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGH.

    1. Hi Walter, what is the situation with your friend/acquaintance who has stage 4 cancer? Someone needs to offer him some assistance while he is still well enough to make decisions. If he has confided in you, that’s a request for help.

  31. I wrote to my MSP on the subject of vaccination passports. These are now compulsory for entry to certain big events in Scotland. I asked my MSP to suggest to the Scottish government that there should be exemption for conscientious objectors such as myself.
    Here is the response from my MSP.
    “Thank you for writing to me about your objections to the Covid vaccination.
    I am sorry to say I am not able to help on this occasion.
    To do so would be to undermine public confidence in the efficacy of the vaccination programme. You have a right to refuse the vaccine, but with that right comes the responsibility to bear the consequences of choosing not to protect yourselves and others. One of those consequences is that you will not be allowed to attend events that require certification.
    Best Wishes.”

    That’s me told.

    1. What a sanctimonious, mendacious little tosser. Prison or the rope can’t come quickly enough for our Dear Leaders.

    2. Frankly, anyone who admits to being overweight, diabetic or over the age of 65 should opt for a vaccination. The quality of inpatient treatment within the NHS is a lottery, with concomitant odds, and at the moment the only antiviral treatment would be Remdesivir (Viklury). Not even sure if it is available in UK.

      I abhor the propaganda, but even people who who recover from covid19 can have badly scarred lungs.

      1. That was Mike Yeadon’s advice, that if you’re high risk you should opt for the jab (but if you’re too high risk, it may kill you as well, as they discovered in Norway and Germany). It’s the politics that get up my nose, and the linking of obedience to the government with basic freedoms.

        1. Thanks, BB2 but I shall continue to opt out.

          At 77 with Chronic heart disease and COPD, I think myocarditis would probably mean that I don’t survive a fourth heart attack.

          1. In your situation, I would probably make the same decision. The more so because a friend of a friend died of a heart attack shortly after having the v. Coincidence? Who knows?

          2. I still ponder on MB’s wandering clot that managed to fell him a fortnight to the day after his first AZ jab.
            Possibly it was already lurking and the MI was sheer happenstance. However…

          3. It seems that if you have something there, in your system or genes, biding its time and waiting for the moment to spring into life, then the vaccine will seek it out, prod it and put its foot on the accelerator of its development. Or a past illness it will bring back to life +++. It is very clever because we all have different things tucked away in our genes and, for instance, the development of a former IBS or attack of glandular fever is very different from a swiftly attacking cancer, making it more difficult not to say nigh-on-impossible for the public going about their daily lives to track the true cause and source of their illness.

        2. And especially when the public gave up their freedoms in the space of 24 hours in good faith to assist the cause.

      2. I wonder if Horace was objecting to the requirement of carrying a vaccine passport in order to go to various events? Otherwise, I agree with your last sentence.

        1. I object to being coerced to receive a vaccination . I object to being forced to prove that have I been vaccinated in order to live normally.

          1. Fortunately, I have yet to be asked for proof of vaccination, and I go about life as I did pre-covid.

      1. It’s very hard to get statistics on that, but I am the only person I know who is avoiding stuff where you can show a test because I don’t want to get a test on principle.
        The SNP are authoritarian fools, but other countries are trying this approach where they let the unvaccinated pay for a test, and it’s putting slow pressure on people. Effectively, it’s a tax on being unvaccinated. I think they are hoping that people will gradually cave in and get the jabs.

        I have said before, but I think it is a mistake to get tested in order to get permission to do things, becuase that means you’re accepting the principle that the govenrment has the right to control whether you take part in everyday life or not.

        1. It’s also accepting the validity of the tests, when we know that the tests were developed without even any access to the computer generated gene sequences, much less an isolated virus identified under a microscope.

          I stayed away from the Proms at the RAH this year because I will not show a test result to gain entry and I know from friends who did go that ticket sales were quite low.

          1. I had to have a pint of blood taken every month for six months for my Polycythaemia (now back to normal). Each time i had the swab (more like an interdental brush) I was allowed to apply it myself. There was no pain or discomfort. Did make my eyes water for a moment but that was all.

            I think the larger ones like a cotton wool bud would have been more uncomfortable.

          2. It’s not so bad if you apply it for yourself, but my experience has been masked idiots ramming it painfully up my nose and then scolding me for flinching.

          3. A sharp kick to the ankle followed by profuse apologies as they inadvertently set off a knee jerk reaction.

            Oh…so sorry, whatever must you think of me…sorta thing. :@)

          4. My one test, in March last year, seemed to have been a swab of the inside of the back of my skull, via the nose.
            Not again in a hurry!

          5. I decided right at the start of this that nobody was going to stick anything up my nose. That was to be my stance.

        2. There’s me – I avoid anything If it requires a test. I haven’t had one yet. I will not take part in the Great Government Game. I will be a disinterested observer, that is all. Poppiesdad walked into Specsavers this morning, he was told he required a mask. He said he didn’t have one. “Oh, that’s all right” said the receptionist “we have one here.” She opened the drawer alongside and in the time she took to lift it out, he had walked out. This is a hill we are prepared to die on. Occasionally in one’s life one has to stand alongside one’s beliefs, values and principles.

          1. He could have said he was exempt. Even this miserable shower posing as a government provides for one to self-certify.

            Unlike yer France, where you need a certificate from a GP.

          2. ‘Exempt’ is (reluctantly) going along with the Game, albeit at a lower level. It is getting carried along in the slipstream, rather than Making A Stand.

          3. We have friends in the area as I write. They are there for a month, to hack their way through their very own two-years-of-growth, mimosa jungle and sundry other jobs that arise when a dwelling has been left to its own devices for a couple of years. I’m looking forward to hearing all about it!

            In principle I agree with what you say. Sometimes you have to go along with something to get yourself into a position to do something about it, and sometimes it is just wiser to keep your head well below the parapet and not draw attention to yourself in order to survive. Countless generations have done just that.

          4. I’ve had appointments at Specsavers in the last 2 months and have not worn a mask. I merely say I am exempt, which is perfectly legitimate if you read the list of exemptions on the government’s own website. If someone offers me a mask I decline. There need be no embarrassment.

          5. Legitimate, indeed, legal it may be, Maggie, but I was still refused entry to the surgery as the phlebotomist was “entitled” to refuse to see me sans mask!

    3. When a vaccinated person with Covid can pass on Covid just as easily as an unvaccinated person with Covid I cannot see how one is protecting others by being vaccinated or endangering them by being unvaccinated..

      Soon they will be telling us that an unvaccinated person with natural immunity who has not had Covid and does not have it is more dangerous to others than a vaccinated person who actually does have the disease.

      In 50 years time will the historians have worked out which was the greatest con: Covid vaccines or global warming.

      1. ‘Evening, Richard, since they are both a scam, I put the blame firmly with the Jolly Green Covid Monster and his Nut Nuts spouse.

  32. Ah! Back from my run to Colsterworth. Had a pause at Asfordby to visit the butcher’s for a pork pie, some faggots & a couple of cheeses, Rutland Red Leicester and a Melton Stilton.

  33. A doctor in NZ has carried out research and compiled thr findings. It is quite long and it might put you off having a Covid vaccine, even if you don’t object on moral grounds, and are overweight, aged etc. I do not vouch for its accuracy, but I suppose that every point can be checked online. I have highlighted one point only.

    A doctor in New Zealand has compiled this paper.
    “1. In Europe, the USA, the UK and Canada, the 4 big vaccines have a relationship to some 200,000 deaths and to 3 million injuries, 50% of these are also thought to be permanent.) Court presented legal Cease and Desist orders for the vaccine roll outs have been ignored in several countries including New Zealand. In England the Evidence Based Medicine Consortium which advises the NHS and WHO have said “these injections are not safe for human use.” No official bodies are taking any notice.
    2. An analysis of the European data base of adverse events from the covid19 vaccine and the population/ covid cases/ covid deaths data shows that the risk of dying or having serious symptoms from Covid 19 disease is 1.4%. The risk of dying or having a serious reaction from the vaccine is 3.8%. Another report indicates that to save 1 covid19 death we must accept 2 covid vaccine deaths. This is not acceptable to me.
    3. Taiwan, a country that was one of the gold standard countries on how to handle the pandemic has now, according to their own government data, had more deaths from the vaccine than from covid19 disease. The same is clearly the case in New Zealand.
    4. I have a 98.99% chance of surviving Covid19 disease without treatment, (age and health based): with treatment it will likely be closer to 100% and I can prevent myself transmitting it to others by reducing my viral load and disease severity with simple cheap methods. (Some available from a local supermarket for about NZ$24.00. Early use of 1% povidone iodine gargle, Betadine, and the solution used as nasal drops/spray in a randomised controlled trial reduced hospitalisation by 84% and mortality by 88%)
    5. The injection is a gene therapy medicinal product, and the Pfizer-BioNtech injection has not yet been approved or licensed by the FDA, (although the bio- identical Comirnaty has) and thus is technically experimental. Although we have been told it’s 95% effective, that was the Relative Risk Reduction, the Absolute (real world) Risk Reduction was 0.84%. As it neither completely protects against getting the disease or from transmitting it, but in the trials was only required to show a reduction in mild to moderate symptoms, it is technically a treatment, not a vaccine. I don’t feel I need a treatment for a disease I may not get and can easily treat.
    6. The safety, efficacy, mutagenicity, and fertility study does not finish until May 2023, the efficiency study finishes in July 2023. While I know Pfizer has vaccinated the control group, I am still going to wait, and consider myself happy to volunteer to be a control subject. No long-term side effects or adverse events can be possibly be known at this time.
    7. The fact that the all-cause mortality in the trial to date is 30% higher in the vaccinated group versus the matched control group does not fill me with confidence but indicates perhaps a problem with the vaccine.
    8. The genome for the mRNA used in the vaccine is 100% “in silico”, that is made up on a computer. The genome and thus the mRNA in the injection is 100% synthetic. No one in the world appears to hold a purified isolate of the SARS CoV2 virus.
    9. mRNA in the blood stream would normally be rapidly destroyed and does not easily get into the cells. To get it into the cells the mRNA has been altered and instead of Uridine in the genome base pair Pfizer have used a synthetic Uridyl molecule. It appears that this has radically altered how the mRNA works and has given it the ability to turn off Toll receptors 3,4 and 7. Toll receptor 4, TLR4, is one of our tumour suppressor agents and turning it off appears to be leading to the recurrence of cancers otherwise in remission, and the appearance of aggressive, dense and unusual tumors, including deep melanomas and uterine cancers. The switching off of the other Toll receptors also appears to seriously compromise the innate immune system such that old latent viruses can reappear, such a herpes simplex, Zoster, HVP, (one pathologist in the US has already noticed an increase in abnormal Cervical smear tests) and even rabies. 50% of vaccines have a lymphopenia for up to 2 weeks post injection, leaving them vulnerable. A recent study has shown that after 9 months, in 40- 79 yr olds one’s innate immune system is 45% reduced, and one is less able to fight off regular infections, and may indeed demonstrate features of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome or AIDS.
    10.The mRNA is also protected by nanoparticles which can themselves be toxic and can not only cross, but open the blood brain barrier, thus allowing other circulating toxins (eg. glyphosate, fluoride) viruses, and microbials into the central nervous system.
    11.The mRNA is designed to make your cells produce spike protein. This has proved to be a pathogenic, (disease producing) protein causing extensive vascular, endothelial and organ damage, leading to heart attacks, strokes, bleeding and clotting, renal failure, severe neurological disorders and sudden permanent blindness and deafness, among other conditions.
    12.The spike protein was supposed to be engineered to be membrane stable and attach to the muscle cells in the upper arm. Sadly, this wasn’t tested, and it is clear from biodistribution studies and adverse events that the spike protein circulates around the body.
    13.The Spike protein contains 26 epitopes, matching peptide sequences, with human tissues, thus potentially causing antibodies to these tissues to be made leading to auto immune disease.
    14.The spike protein contains a prion and this could get into the brain and cause prion diseases such as Creutzfeldt-Jacob disease (like mad cow disease) Indeed two people in the USA have died of C-J disease within months of their second Pfizer injection, and one has been classified as vaccine caused. This adverse event was not expected to be seen for 12 – 18 months post injection.
    15.No corona virus vaccine has been able to be made in the past as ADE, or Pathogenic Priming has occurred, and most of the animals in the trials have died. ADE is antibody dependent enhancement or disease enhancement, and happens when after getting a good antibody response the body, when exposed to the wild virus again, or perhaps another booster, produces a vast and unexpected paradoxical response and massive inflammatory cytokine storm often leading to severe illness or death. This phenomenon occurred with the dengue vaccine and several children died or became very ill. It appears that this is happening in the countries with highest vaccination rates like Israelwhere 85-90% of ICU patients are now doubly vaccinated.
    16.The current Pfizer injection uses the spike protein of the original (synthetic genome) Wuhan strain of the virus. The antibodies produced thus have reduced recognition of the new variants, alpha, beta, delta, and the newer variants, lambda and mu seem to be bypassing the ancestral antibodies altogether, and even the immunity offered by a previous covid infection. A “leaky” vaccine gives all the risk and little benefit.
    17.The Pfizer vaccine also contains PEG, polyethylene glycol, a substance closely related to antifreeze. (It is the liquid being used to lubricate he giant log in the Kauri Museum) PEG is commonly found in foods and cosmetics etc and causes anti-PEG antibodies to be formed in some people. When these people get the vaccine, the PEG antibodies can cause the anaphylactic and allergic reactions not uncommonly witnessed. Almost all the covid 19 vaccine ACC pay- outs, currently at more than $130,000, have been for allergic responses. ACC seems reluctant to cover other adverse events and your health insurance company will not cover you as they say ACC will. Southern Cross say they will pay out for deaths.
    18.In order for the vaccine to work effectively it has been shown that adequate iron and haemoglobin levels are needed, and a healthy microbiome must be present because of the gut-lung microbiome axis, and the inflammatory cytokines produced causing gastrointestinal issues as seen in the disease. So, I would want to check these and that I do not have PEG antibodies before having the vaccine.
    19.Random Pfizer vials of the injection material have been analysed under advanced spectroscopy and Xray analysis and appear to contain:
    20.(a) Graphene Oxide, a substance that becomes magnetised in the presence of hydrogen and under electromagnetic fields, this is thought to be the cause of the magnetic effect seen in some people. Magnetofection is a concern. More than 20 cases have been confirmed in NZ
    21.(b) Trypanosoma Cruzi, the causative agent of Chagas Disease.
    22.(c) Heavy metals, and possibly SPRIONS, supra paramagnetic iron oxide nanoparticle, contributing to the above magnetic issue.
    23.(d) Other yet to be identified particles
    24.(e) ? living, certainly moving agents, with tentacles or filaments, of completely unknown origin.
    25. I understand that hundreds of billions of doses of these vaccines have been given globally, and many people have had no problems at all. However, in NZ we have no evidence that people are getting good levels of neutralising and sterilising anti-bodies, because the government has no testing in place and no plans for random checking of sero-conversion. (OIA information) It also appears increasingly certain that Pfizer vaccine antibodies reduce dramatically after 5-7 months , and a booster may be advised with a repeat of all the above risks, especially ADE.
    I clearly have some significant concerns about this injection, and I would very much like to be wrong; so, I await clarification of each the above details in case I have been “mis- informed” and will be happy to proceed once I am reassured.
    Janion Heywood. M.D.”

    1. Point 2 was claimed fairly early, but the figures did not seem to support it. As they have moved to vaccinating more young, healthy people however, the relative death rates have probably changed around, as the vaccine is killing people at the same rate, but covid mainly seems to kill older or vulnerable people, who all got jabbed first.
      Certainly the unexplained rise in mortality for teenage boys in the UK is extremely worrying.
      Would appreciate references for these points. Some of them I have read, others are new to me.

      1. I don’t have any references or links. I copied this from elsewhere. Asking the internet, “The Spike protein contains 26 epitopes in Pfizer vaccine”brings up various responses of which the undernoted is one. What seems to common in the articles is the theme of needing to more about what is going on. Not reassuring if it’s just been pushed into your arm?
        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16725238/

    2. The injected vaccine contains a homing beacon for incoming Thunderbolts.

      Beware NZ doctor and onward posters, of the above your end is nigh

    3. He rather lets himself down with “hundreds of billions of doses of these vaccines have been given”. With 7 billion people on the planet, that means an average of dozens of jabs per person.

    1. A military coup, the royal family deposed and the King over the Water restored to the throne, and a return to the gold standard.

        1. I’ve read it! I have been a royalist all my life, mostly because I think Britons need an impartial head of state to protect us from the horrors of President Blair.
          According to Dr Zelenko, that New York Jewish medic who treats covid and calls out the vaccine scam, the Windsors are among the owners of Vanguard. They are certainly behaving like it. I am so over them.

          1. Me too, Bb2. I was a firm supporter of the present monarchy until the covid scam. That really opened my eyes. I am reading bizarre things that the Queen died last year and we have a double in her place… because it is not convenient for govt to have her dead at this time! Nothing would surprise me now after fooling the world’s population with the covid psy-op. I keep an open mind. Do you remember last Christmas the video of the Queen dancing on the table, a deep fake video, it was her head and face but with the younger body of a middle-aged woman? I think Channel 4 were showing us what could be done now with these videos and all is not what it seems. Certainly today the Queen looked odd in the photo of her taking a zoom session, she looked more like her spitting image puppet, and also zoom sessions earlier this year about the time she was demanding that we get the injection for the sake of others, a not fully tested injection at that. And then there is the wokery. That has finished me.

          2. Same here. But the Queen is just looking older, that’s all in my opinion. Hardly surprising given the year she’s had with her husband’s death and the antics of her son and grandson.
            I thought the Queen and Philip publicising their jabs was the worst kind of tacky propaganda – and then he was in hospital with some heart problem just a few weeks later.

          3. She’s had a tough year – give her some slack. I think she’s neatly side-stepped the Con26 borefest.

      1. The Stuart pretender to the throne is Franz, Duke of Bavaria. So you would get one bunch of Germans replaced by another bunch of Germans!

          1. When i was working all over W. Germany as a locum I frequently did advanced crown & bridge work, which involved recording a patient’s bite with a sort of ‘putty’, that was usually white. I often kept up a lively banter with the patients which put them at ease, so I would say to them in advance “Gleich kommt eine weisse Wurst zwischen die Zähne und es dauert circa 2 Minuten. Schmeckt aber nicht wie Weißwurst, was vielleicht doch eine Segnung ist,” That nearly always produced a smile.

          2. Hey, even Google translate picked up that it should be, “Gleich kommt eine weißWurst zwischen die Zähne und es dauert circa 2 Minuten. Schmeckt aber nicht wie Weißwurst, was vielleicht doch eine Segnung ist,”

            Nice to have a ‘Gotcha’, Peddy.

          3. Except that Peddy’ s white sausage was not actually Weißwurst but a dental putty so therefore he was correct.

          4. Correct. And Tom’s emboldened “weißWurst” should have an initial capital W not in the middle!

        1. We could go back to the Plantagenets but the Duke of Beaufort is a pal of the Prince of Wales and probably just as bad.

          1. Speaking from absolutely no memory! – I think they were all slain by the Normans. (If not by each other).

            You ought to read: The Anglo-Saxons by Marc Morris

          2. I think one fled to Hungary – but still ended up very dead.
            (I could check, but I’m too busy producing a meal.)

          3. None legitimate, if I remember rightly.
            In fact, I think he had two wives; the Anglo-Saxons were rather relaxed in these matters.

          4. We were told by a cabbie that there used to be a good pub over the road from where now are…a sodding Nandos now- Grrrr.

          5. I thought Tony Robinson traced the Plantagenets to Australia viz. King Michael. His next in line was Shelagh.

            Unfortunately Australia is now lost to globalist diktats and its government utterly corrupted.

          6. The Beauforts are the direct descendants of the illegitimate children of John of Gaunt and Katherine Swynford and there is some dispute about it but they were legally legitimised and anyway, he did marry Katherine 3 years before he died.

        2. Only the royal family are not German. One might as well call them Danes or anything else you please in terms of European monarchy since they have elements of practically every royal family in their veins. And the younger set, William et al are almost 100% British.

    2. We’ve had so much advance publicity during the last week on what he might/may/will say, that I shall wait until Thursday when what he does say on Wednesday and what was carefully camouflaged to deceive us will become apparent.

      1. In days of old it would take a fortnight following a Budget for the economists and analysts to work out what effect the announcement actually meant. There were inevitably all sorts of conjuring tricks and sleights of hand.

        Nowadays the budget speech purdah is gone and leaks are so numerous as to leave little to the imagination.

          1. Royal Family support: How many people back the monarchy? Staggering royal fans chart
            https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1510848/royal-family-support-monarchy-republican-poll-age-latest-evg

            Overall support for the crown remains high even among the younger age groups.

            The majority (44 percent) of 18 to 24-year-olds said Britain should continue to have a Royal Family.

            Across all age groups, 62 percent of respondents said the UK should continue to have a monarchy.

            When the monarchy goes then we do too. I believe that there is a continuing and relentless campaign to undermine the monarchy because when it goes it will represent the end of Britain as a unique and special place and reduce as to just an off shore island to the continent. As I pointed out a week or so ago. The Queen represents the people of this place. It is made explicit in the constitutional formula: “The Queen represents the people against Parliament.” Which, in the English system of cabinet rule can become a tyranny. End the monarchy and you end the people.

          2. That’s why I propose the Jacobite solution.

            A crucial factor about the monarchy is that they should be loyal to the people of the United Kingdom.
            The Windsors are globalists who believe in depopulation.

          3. No they aren’t “globalists” or people who believe in “depopulation”. That is over the top. Of course they would be internationalists. After all look at their relatives, most of them are foreigners to us. Uncles, aunts, cousins from practically every country in Europe including Russia! And there ecology bee in bonnet is nothing new with them at all. In fact it is older than the ecology movement per se.

          4. L believe that they are the owners of Vanguard as much as I believe they are really lizards!
            Please give proof from the horses mouth, as it were, that Charles supports depopulation.

          5. A lecture to the WEF some years ago, he stated it there. Sorry I don’t have a link atm but I am sure you will find it, it is out there.

          6. As you will know, the owners of Vanguard are confidential. According to Dr Zelenko, some digging reveals a list of families including the Windsors. Zelenko is an orthodox Jew with an own political agenda, of course – however, some of the names crop up again and again in connection with Vanguard – Rothschild, Rockefeller, Bush etc

            It is considerably more likely that they are shareholders in Vanguard than that they are lizards!

          7. How “convenient” that they are confidential. It leaves conspiracy theorists to have a field day!

          8. That is why I said “if” in my original post, because it is speculation. However, I’d say it’s pretty likely, as the current financial power structure came into being around the time that Britain (and therefore the British royal family) was at the height of its power and riches.
            Bottom line is, some people own Vanguard. It’s actually logical when you think about it, that there are super-rich people, because once you get more than a certain amount of wealth, you can’t spend it all, so you are always going to get wealthier and wealthier.
            Most families don’t, because they do dumb stuff like splitting wealth between their heirs, or they just aren’t very good with money.

          9. Sorry but that is nonsense again. The Royal Family is not rich by modern standards at all and never has been. Like most you are confusing Crown Lands/Property etc with the families personal wealth. The Sunday Times estimates the queens fortune at: ” £370 million which makes her the 356th richest person in England”. Pretty feeble for a family that supposedly has its tentacles everywhere and in every pot!

          10. ? I’m not talking about Crown property. The Sunday Times will estimate the Queen’s fortune at whatever she wants them to. Plenty of people are in the bracket above 100 million these days, so I’d be very surprised if they are that low. Frankly, the subject doesn’t interest me at all, because I believe in private property. I only start caring when they start interfering in my life, with their covid jabs and their green deal which won’t work without a large population reduction. I don’t feel like climbing on the cattle truck because it’s Prince Charles telling me that it’s the right thing to do.
            I’m loyal to the Crown, not to the Windsors.

          11. You do understand, don’t you, that does not mean he advocates” genocide”. I pointed out a couple of days ago that the population will drop naturally if certain economic measures are taken, see Bjorn Lomborg . Are you going to call that “genocide” too? Because Charles argues in the same vain as I do about that.

          12. Sounds a little too idealistic for my liking. And sorry, but when imams are telling muslims to have half a dozen children so as to outbreed Europeans, and the population of Nigeria is exploding, I don’t think controlling the west via electronic fetters and green tyranny is going to make a difference. Better we ride out the population increase until it gets wiped out naturally by the four horsemen of the Apocalypse.

          13. I would say the Islamic problem is an entirely different kettle of fish. The population will drop of its own accord. As I said, look up Bjorn Lomborg.

          14. And P.S. a link about is not a link to what he actually said. It is someone else’s interpretation.

          15. I think you read too much that you want to read into it, BB2.

            I really think that this will be our future fate:

            Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse as Conquest, War, Famine and Death

          16. But I don’t “want” to read anything into it at all! I have no axe to grind.
            However, I’m not ignoring the evidence either, and Charles’s Malthusian tendencies are well known. It surprises me far more, that anyone thinks that’s controversial, or the idea that the family that headed the largest empire the world has ever seen are shareholders in a company for the world’s super-rich. These are really not controversial ideas.

            We have a contract with the RF – we pay our taxes and pay them lip service, and they help to keep our country stable and leave us alone.
            It’s not we who broke that contract.

            It’s unclear how much the population of the world really is a problem, when you realise that Malthus got worried about it when it was a fraction of what it is today. Doomsday scenarios are always tempting to believe in. As you say, I think it will regulate itself through natural means. However, when I see the RF actively promoting several schemes that are rapidly moving us (not them!) towards modern day electronic serfdom, and a jab that has killed more people this year than all other jabs put together, then as far as I am concerned all bets are off and they have lost my support.
            They would do better to remember the old adage “Never sh*t on your own doorstep.”

          17. Your link goes to the LaRouche people and allied individuals.That lunacy has been around since I was in my 20’s and I’m in my 70’s now. A bunch of first class nutters and practically the first conspiracy theorists in the modern era. It is not advisable to believe those sort of people. It will take you down the rabbit hole and up a kangaroos arse!

          18. Rubbishing the source is a pretty lame argument. I don’t guarantee everything they say or have said in the past.
            All the talk in the link says is that Charles was the architect behind the green new deal and took an active role in the Rio conference creating the myth of man-made climate change, and associates with eugenicists, including, clearly, his father. Modern eugenicists are a surprisingly eclectic bunch – I saw a program for one of their meetings once, and the father of someone I knew at school was on it.

            If you read Terra Carta, Charles’s green manifesto, it talks a lot about “sustainability” and anyone with half a brain can see that the wonderful future it promises is not possible without a substantial population reduction. I do not think Charles is that stupid, he knows perfectly well what the plan is.

          19. Of course I’m rubbishing the source when it is a bunch of loons. And I have read Terra Carts. It does not strike me in anyway as a programme for genocide or much else other than the usual Green waffle. I also find it rather implausible that Charles is the architect of this supposed evil. Which is it, is he a genius on a par with Dr No, from James Bond, or the dim witted idiot that others portray him as. He can’t be both! I also took a look at the quote about Phillip and being a virus. It struck me as just another of the sort of remarks he would make and not to be taken literally anymore than his remark that if you stayed in China for to long you would end up with “slitty eyes”.

          20. See the link I posted below.
            In Terra Carta, Charles explicitly proposes a return to organic agriculture. That would not feed the current population. Therefore, depopulation is necessary. In order to believe that Charles doesn#t support depopulation, one would have to believe he is too stupid to realise that. But he has explicitly said that he does anyway.

          21. Is this happy mushroom hour? “Vanguard is unusual in the fund world in that it is owned by its different funds, which are in turn owned by the company’s shareholders.
            The company has no other owners than its shareholders, which sets it apart from most publicly-traded investment firms.”

          22. “…most of them are foreigners to us.”

            On my Mother’s side I have Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, Norman, French, Spanish, Greek and Irish, going back to 530.

            My Father’s side from 1580 is solid English.

            I’m sure that there are many in this country who may have a similar mix, after all we are a mongrel race but, like most mongrels, the good qualities remain and the bad have been bred out.

            That’s my story, Johnathan, and I shall stick to it.

          23. And I’m sure, Nanny, that you would be mightily ticked off if you were constantly referred to as Swedish, as if you were a foreigner.

      1. Disgraceful pressure being applied to her from her eldest son and his elder son.

        I think it probably adds up to abusive treatment of a nonagenarian.

        1. I am rather more cynical. I think they operate much like a mafia family, and they just lost their Godfather earlier this year. He had a very light touch about the RF’s image. She is fully on board with reducing us all to serfdom in order to depopulate the world, she is just rowing back because of the response she got from the public when she actively participated in that disgraceful event with Gates.

          1. I agree. The Royal Family are heavily invested in the mega corporations running global
            business. They sit at the top table of the globalist masters of the universe. The public image is manufactured.

    1. I repeat my post on Sunday;

      lacoste
      Horace Pendleton
      2 days ago
      I fear that the Royal Family first division, by ‘sharing the stage’ with David Attenborough, many dodgy green scientists – and 18-year-old Greta Thunberg – could permanently damage the credibility of Royal Institution; the issues are far too political.

      Sensibly perhaps, because of recent health scares, Her Majesty may avoid centre stage.

      However, over-enthusiasm for Green propaganda may well damage the credibility of her successors in line …

      1. Spot on – and I agree that HM prolly thinks the Swedish Muppet needs a good slap – and had NO wish at all to shake her grubby little mitt.

      2. Who knows? Harry might wake up and say he has been brainwashed and hypnotised by a wicked witch whose charms and spells he has now cast off and declare that he totally rejects all this climate bilge and general woke nonsense,. Having divorced the sorceress and disowned and disinherited his progeny – without agreeing to pay either child maintenance or alimony – he will then hurry back to Britain, find a proper wife and lock his father and his brother in the Tower.

        (This absurd scenario is about as likely as Boris Johnson ever telling the truth.)

    2. HM is no fool. Very, very rarely has she dabbled in politics. She knows (she’s a NoTTLer, you know*) that the whole eco/climate/carbon bollox is just that.

      Dim Charlie and Woke William are – well, just dim and woke. And remarkably stupid. And very boring.
      Should you encounter Charlie Boy and he starts mumbling about it all – just say to him: “Homeopathy” and “Laurens van der Post”

      * Let us guess which of our highly intelligent, very well informed ladies she is…!!!

      1. She will appear on screen to welcome the herd. It will be filmed at Windsor. Daily Telegraph.

      2. * Let us guess which of our highly intelligent, very well informed ladies she is…!!!
        Better, Bill.

    3. It is all very well Her Majesty popping off to the Goring for a spot of lunch but not to a conference with thousands of people from across the world.

    4. Good. She should never have been dragged into such a political event in the first place.
      Whether she – or her flunkies – are deliberately using her age as an excuse, the possibility that she should ever be involved in Versailles-sur-Clydeside was an unwise decision.

  34. That’s me for this funny old day. Reasonably mild – managed some ladder work and gardening. Two short bike rides.

    AND, above all – rejoiced in the happiness that two very small yellow bundles who arrived 52 weeks ago today have given us.

    This time last year, Gus – the smaller, nervous one – was hidden behind a door. Pickles was bold enough to try gymnastics on the bars under the kitchen chairs!

    Now they are fully grown hunters – who treat the house as an hotel…… Despite that – we love them to bits (I know – a ghastly phrase..!!)

    A demain.

    1. Good night to Uncle Bill, the MR, the two ginger scallywags and all NoTTLers. I shall watch a film or two and then straight to bed. A demain!

    1. Build camps on remote islands and ship them there while their pleas are heard.

      Deport straight away, those that fail.

      Yes, I know, Lewis, pie in the sky thinking but I just wish…

      1. I would say it has gotten worse since then. Have you seen the overt prosecution of Christian pastors in Canada?

        1. There have been several stories of gay activists deliberately looking for or provoking confrontations e.g. the Christian bakers in Northern Ireland. With Transgenderism now rearing its ugly head, this will only get worse.

        2. To say nothing of the lack of response to the destruction of a number of churches some months ago. The chief idiot dismissed the problem with an off the cuff quip that he could understand first nations being upset about the churches.

          The pastors were not the only ones prosecuted, there are quite a that were prosecuted over ignoring covid rules (religion of peace excepted).

    1. I can’t remember the bill but it seemed back to front in it’s wording, namely that it seemed to support the water companies for polluting rather than permitting sewage.

      Bah, I need to read it again. I know there was hoohar over my MP not supporting it, and that seemed – in my poor memory – to be the right approach.

  35. Donations needed for Afghan refugees

    We are sharing a comment written by a resident on the Southbourne Care4Calais Facebook Community group, which lists the items that are best avoided.
    1. Please no clothing with camouflage pattern and styling.
    2. Please no super hero clothing for children.
    3. No clothing with aeroplane prints.
    4. No clothing with boat prints.
    5. Please no short skirts for girls and women. Afghani women and girls wear dresses below knee length.
    6. Please be mindful if you are donating and Disney clothing of girls characters, who are very westernised.
    *Donations of clothing for men, women and children are welcomed along with duvets and bedding

    1. I used to work with an Afghan woman. She wore jeans. Definitely couldn’t see Parveen in long frocks.

  36. Just watched The Last Goon Show of All on the beeb beeb ceeb – as one of Peter Sellers’ characters says. MH looked on in some consternation as I laughed myself silly. I simply cannot remember when I last laughed like that. Sheer silly joy.
    Long live The Goons.

      1. Not sure how often I will be here and I won’t be getting involved in political discussions. I felt that a 10 month break was (hopefully) enough to restore my equilibrium.

  37. Good night all.

    Fried fillets of sea bass with rocket butter. Pouilly-fumé 2019.
    A ripe Williams pear.

    Monica can wait till catch-up tomorrow.

    1. Lincolnshire sausages with mash- the mash had carrots and fried onions mixed into it, plus a little gravy.

  38. Good night and God bless (including would-be Goddesses).

    As Poppiesmum says,”See you in the playground tomorrow..”

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