Tuesday 29 November: Ugly, disruptive and unreliable: the reality of onshore wind farms

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  1. Good morrow, Gentlefolk, today’s story

    The Law Of Unintended Consequence

    Father buys a lie detector robot that slaps you when you lie.
    He decides to test it out on his son at the supper table.
    Father asked the son, “Where were you last night?”
    Son replies, “I was at the library”
    The robot slaps the son
    “OK I was at a friend’s house, watching a movie!”
    “What movie?” the father asks
    “Toy story,” robot slaps the son, “OK it was porn.” cries the son.
    Father yells, “What? When I was your age, I did not know what porn was.”
    Robot slaps the father.
    The mother laughs and says, “He certainly is your son.”
    Robot slaps the mother.

    1. There’s a TV series ‘The Stranger’ with Hannah John-Kamen (who could read the phone directory and I’d watch it) but it’s a very good set of undoing a web of lies people have woven around themselves.

      I recommend it – it does start to get a bit ‘too out there’ toward the end, but it starts very well.

    2. A brilliant start to the day, Tom. Thanks for your inexhaustible fund of good jokes. (And good morning, btw.)

    1. And I recall that £5,000 in notes in a brown envelope – ‘Cash for Questions’ – was regarded as a scandal worthy of filling the front pages with “Tory Sleaze” for weeks back in the 1990s …

    2. Morning Rik. BYW Hope medication is fixed now for the better.

      We b, the public, are not, just the politicians! Whoever gave the nod to awarding £m worth contracts to a company only 3 weeks old? Anyway the whole bloody scamdemic was a scam, tying in nicely with the WEF! WHO! UN CBDC plans for all. Makes my blood boil, so it does. (Corri, are you there?).

      1. ‘Morning Maggie
        Oh how we laffed,I was too poorly to get the report in on Friday and of course all “reporting forms” are closed over the weekend at Heathcot

        Got it in on Monday asked for a phone call from the Head Pharmacist who prescribed the Metformin routine reply
        “we have passed this to an appropriate clinician who will contact you in due course”
        Sometime never………..

    3. It isn’t acceptable but look at the people involved. Treasury officials didn’t bother looking at the companies, they just handed out the cash -that incompetence never sees justice (as they’d all be sacked many times over).
      Then you have Sunak, who was running the place at the time, a man so dedicated to doing his boss in and getting cheap popularity stunts – he doesn’t drink, yet posed with a pint. He drives a flash car, so had to borrow a Kia to fill to up – and was negligent in his duties.
      Mone was actually the sort of Lord we want, but quite clearly also the sort we deserve.

      The rot goes to the very top of the chain. The entire edifice is corrupt beyond saving. It needs to go. All of it. This isn’t Aegean stables filth, or Cash for questions, cash for honours, evening suppers, peerages for sale, this is endemic, complete, total corruption at every level.

      The state cannot be saved. It must be put to sword and flame.

      But of course, nothing will change.

      1. Let’s just say that the Guinea pigs have refused to have it until the human trials are completed.

  2. Scotland Yard launches hotline for public and police to report ‘racist and corrupt’ officers. 29 November 2022.

    The Met’s Anti-Corruption Command was launched in October with the aim of proactively rooting out corrupt and abusive officers and staff.

    As well as identifying those officers who use their position for financial gain or sexual advantage, the force wants to rid itself of those who are racist, misogynistic and homophobic.

    A Charter for Cultural Marxist Reliability overseen by Woke informers!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/11/29/scotland-yard-launches-hotline-public-police-report-racist-corrupt/

    1. We have begun turning off GB News as soon as anyone of them starts up about transgender stuff. We all know it’s out there but we don’t need it shoved in our faces all the time.

      1. What pisses me off about GB News is that they try to claim they are impartial when they select complete left-wing morons such as Amy Nickel and Benjamin Butterworth who spout such absurdities that you cannot take any of their arguments seriously. I would prefer to have points of view with which I disagree presented coherently.

    2. The dog’s right. I’m not convinced of the second paragraph, but it is certainly a desperate need for an identity. It’s the failure of the individual to look at their life and make something of it because the system has made it easier for them to pretend they’re something they’re not and to escape into a fantasy, and worse, to force others to indulge that fantasy.

      You only have to look at these weak individuals and see that they’re fundamentally broken, desperately needing validation and lacking a root core that defines who they are.

    3. Bow to his superior knowledge.
      I think I noticed one on university challenge last evening. That programme needs a new lease of life, it’s so boring.

        1. The new presenter of Mastermind hasn’t made much difference to the second most boring programme on TV.

        2. Amol Rajan, born in Calcutta, to a mother from Poona and a Tamil father from Combaconum. All they need now is for Amatol(sic) to come out as all three genders and they’ll have hit the jackpot. Ex presenter of Today programme. Rabid anti-Monarchist. Described Prince Philip as ‘racist buffoon’, Charlie, scientifically illiterate, William and Kate as frauds and the entire Royal Family as a ‘Clan of fools’. Just the right credentials for a highly paid BBC employee.

          1. One black one, one white one and one with a bit …..

            Part of a song we used to sing on the bus home after an away rugby match.

          2. The chap from Nigeria didn’t open his mouth once. No questions about email scam technology unfortunately.

          3. He’s right about Chas though – he is scientifically illiterate, as are so many of the eco loons and seemingly a good percentage of the government.

  3. “ SIR – The ultra-low emissions zone (Ulez) is to be expanded across all of Greater London from next August.

    My lovely car – with many years of use left in it – does not comply with the new rules, and although I live only 400 yards from the Kent border, sadly it will have to be sold. As a pensioner already struggling with the cost of living, the extra £12.50 the Mayor of London will charge me for driving out of my home each day is unaffordable.
    There is a hail-and-ride bus service near where I live, which runs every 60 to 90 minutes. The last bus passes my home at about 9.30pm and there is no service on Sundays or bank holidays.

    If I have no car and the bus does not run, I will be a prisoner in my own home. Clean air is a worthy cause – but at the cost of my mental health?

    We have only nine months left in which to plan. If I were disabled I would have until October 2027 to make adjustments. In that time, I could save for a Ulez-compliant car. More importantly, it would give the Mayor the opportunity to improve services so that public transport is a genuine alternative to driving. There is really no substitute for a car where I live, and not everyone can just buy a new one.”

    There is a good column in the business section too, calling our glorious London Leader’s plan out for what it is – a money-making scam.

    1. Will Khan be paying for his two landrovers or will he slap that on the tax payer?

      Everything is back to front. That wretched rat needs be to flayed and flogged.

      1. I was sitting having a couple of beers with some friends about 4 years ago and one told us that one of his son-in-law’s was an armed police guard for Kahnt. We grab our wallets and said how much does he want. Jokingly of course.

      2. If you import the Third World, you get Third World attitudes.

        He claims to have been born in England, but he certainly shows Third World attitudes.

    2. Welcome to the countryside scenario – we don’t have public transport that is usable, taxis are expensive and a car is a necessity.

  4. “ SIR – The ultra-low emissions zone (Ulez) is to be expanded across all of Greater London from next August.

    My lovely car – with many years of use left in it – does not comply with the new rules, and although I live only 400 yards from the Kent border, sadly it will have to be sold. As a pensioner already struggling with the cost of living, the extra £12.50 the Mayor of London will charge me for driving out of my home each day is unaffordable.
    There is a hail-and-ride bus service near where I live, which runs every 60 to 90 minutes. The last bus passes my home at about 9.30pm and there is no service on Sundays or bank holidays.

    If I have no car and the bus does not run, I will be a prisoner in my own home. Clean air is a worthy cause – but at the cost of my mental health?

    We have only nine months left in which to plan. If I were disabled I would have until October 2027 to make adjustments. In that time, I could save for a Ulez-compliant car. More importantly, it would give the Mayor the opportunity to improve services so that public transport is a genuine alternative to driving. There is really no substitute for a car where I live, and not everyone can just buy a new one.”

    There is a good column in the business section too, calling our glorious London Leader’s plan out for what it is – a money-making scam.

    1. Sleep well, Tom. Then get up again and give us another one of your wonderful jokes. Lol.

      1. By popular request:

        The Irish Flagpole

        Two Irishmen were standing at the base of a flagpole, looking up. A blonde walks by and asked them what they were doing.

        Paddy replied, ‘We’re supposed to be finding the height of this flagpole, but we don’t have a ladder.’

        The blonde took out an adjustable spanner from her bag, loosened a few bolts and laid the flagpole down. She got a tape measure out of her pocket, took a few measurements, and announced that it was 18 feet 6 inches.

        Then, she walked off.

        Mick said to Paddy, ‘Isn’t that just like a blonde!

        We need the height, and she gives us the bloody length.

  5. Rape as a weapon of war will trigger UK sanctions, says James Cleverly. 29 November 2022.

    Mr Cleverly told the Preventing Violence in Sexual Violence conference that Britain already uses this approach to tackle serious human rights violations and abuses across the world. Sanctions applied include arms embargoes, financial sanctions including asset freezes, travel bans, and aircraft and shipping sanctions.

    “Most recently, following Russia’s illegal invasion of Ukraine, our sanctioning of over 1,200 individuals including members of the Russian military responsible for atrocities, and in Iran we have used our sanctions to target the officials responsible for heinous human rights violations,” Mr Cleverly said.

    This from a member of the Political Class that has presided with indifference over the Mass Rape of thousands of indigenous white girls?

    Preventing Violence in Sexual Violence. Really?

    Another pointless virtue signalling freebie courtesy of the Taxpayers!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/terror-and-security/rape-weapon-war-will-trigger-uk-sanctions-says-james-cleverly/

    1. What does “Preventing Violence in Sexual Violence” even mean?
      Why not just “Preventing Sexual Violence”?

      1. Afternoon Stormy. I believe the correct title is: Preventing Sexual Violence in Conflicts!

  6. Rape as a weapon of war will trigger UK sanctions, says James Cleverly. 29 November 2022.

    Mr Cleverly told the Preventing Violence in Sexual Violence conference that Britain already uses this approach to tackle serious human rights violations and abuses across the world. Sanctions applied include arms embargoes, financial sanctions including asset freezes, travel bans, and aircraft and shipping sanctions.

    “Most recently, following Russia’s illegal invasion of Ukraine, our sanctioning of over 1,200 individuals including members of the Russian military responsible for atrocities, and in Iran we have used our sanctions to target the officials responsible for heinous human rights violations,” Mr Cleverly said.

    This from a member of the Political Class that has presided with indifference over the Mass Rape of thousands of indigenous white girls?

    Preventing Violence in Sexual Violence. Really?

    Another pointless virtue signalling freebie courtesy of the Taxpayers!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/terror-and-security/rape-weapon-war-will-trigger-uk-sanctions-says-james-cleverly/

  7. Good morning all. A cold but dry start this morning with 1°C and it looks misty up the sides of the valley again.

  8. Ugly, disruptive and unreliable: the reality of onshore wind farms

    Not only that, they are only any good when the wind blows.
    Although I suppose they could house the immigrants under them.

    We would be much better off with fracking.

  9. It’s not sensible to disrespect Qatar which invests heavily in the UK, Tony Blair says. 29 November 2022.

    Sir Tony Blair has said it is “not sensible” to criticise World Cup hosts Qatar, who invest heavily in the UK.

    The former prime minister on Monday cautioned against “disrespect” towards the emirate, which has received criticism over its attitudes towards LGBT and women’s rights alongside migrant worker abuses.

    That’s our Tony! Got his eye on the money!

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/11/28/not-sensible-disrespect-qatar-invests-heavily-uk-tony-blair/

  10. ‘Morning, Peeps. The weather this morning is – guess what? – Autumnal. And about time too.

    Today’s leading letter:

    SIR – In 2012 our community was “blessed” with an industrial wind turbine (Letters, November 28), which stands 300 ft above us, blighting the South Downs National Park.

    Despite the oginal claims, it produces just 17 per cent of its rated output (the term is “load factor”). Likewise, despite prior assurances of silence, it whumps incessantly with a medium-strength prevailing southerly wind.

    At the planning inquiry the developer bolstered the application by claiming that the device would perform an educational function. It has certainly achieved that objective.

    Dr Rosie Boxer
    Ringmer, East Sussex

    Although Dr Boxer hasn’t identified it, she is referring to the Glyndebourne wind turbine, constructed 10 years ago and what many describe as a complete blot on the landscape. It is also possibly the finest example of virtue-signalling anywhere in the South Downs National Park. For all the self-generated PR greenwash, it is first and foremost a means to rake in some funds for the opera house. And it is utterly hideous: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/59ac48b97aac72ddd2c6d1ded3ca7cdeea17e8a02c9a876b38d507af66ecba2b.jpg

    1. I meant to add that currently the 11,000+ bird choppers in our ‘Saudi Arabia of wind’ are contributing just 1.9% to a total demand of 34 GW. Isn’t that truly magnificent??

      The 2-3 remaining coal-fired stations, meanwhile, are contributing nearly 3%.

      One can only guess how the planning application for this monstrosity was permitted by the S of S, having called it in. It was championed by Sir David of Attenborough…need I say more?

      1. Careful! Some nutcase greeniac will insist that they are all 150% efficient and are making money, use no materials, are made from fairy dust and have no subsidy.

        Such people are everywhere, in complete denial of reality.

          1. Which weirdly – oddly! – is usually a government minister. And, in a complete shock, a government minister that has been promoting the building of windmills!

    1. Morning Bill. According to the Weatherman it is all due to a High Pressure system over Moscow!

      1. Of course! It’s all Vlad’s fault. Silly me! I thought it was just that we are heading for winter.

  11. 368488+ up ticks,

    Morning Each,

    The collective political @rseholes & followers cannot surely have the two as in mass controlled morally illegal immigrants with wind AND wind powered money mills
    for relatives and friends.

    Tuesday 29 November: Ugly, disruptive and unreliable: the reality of onshore wind farms

    AND,

    Tuesday 29 November: Ugly, disruptive and unreliable: the reality of the final fallout of the lab/lib/con/ukip coalition.

    The only saving grace decent peoples have, has got to be investing in damage limitations.

    To the political overseers YES you must, say NO, NO,NO.

    1. 368488+ up ticks,

      O2O,

      £5 K a ? how about we do a reverse Dunkirk, en masse, hit the beaches as we did when the threat to freedom last ruled and sanity was in vogue,

      Lest we forgot

    2. This is insane. Just shoot the politicians. Then shoot border farce. Then shoot the criminal gimmigrants. Then shoot the lawyers. If any survive, hunt them.

    3. I liken the situation we have in our country now, as people turning for a free seat and free food at the circus to see the clowns.
      These stupid people who call themselves a government need to clear off. They don’t have a clue.

      1. 368488+ up ticks,

        Morning RE,

        When it comes to treachery they have more than a clue, in reality tis the electorate majority that have far less of a clue, proven by the current state of the nation.

  12. It seems the state is determined to force through the online harms act. Yet more legislation to align with the EU. I don’t know why folk don’t see this.

    Thankfully many are seeing that the ratchet is intended to control who can do and say what. The problem is, once this hateful, miserable bill is in they never remove it only add to it.

  13. “Happily, at the University of Cambridge we believe in free speech, and truthful speech.”

    Rev Dr Michael Banner
    Dean of Trinity College, Cambridge

    And that is the biggest, most abominable untruth of all, you fucking lying scumbag.

      1. On Farage last night NF had John Bolton on as a guest. He was a high security USA official. On Brexit he denounced the remainers. On Nuclear attacks he said in extremis Putin might use tactical nuclear weapons but he said China and North Korea might be the first to use these nuclear weapons. Worth listening to.

    1. The foul man, Banner, should have sticks of dynamite inserted in whatever orifices he claims he has and wired up to explode on Trans Rights Day.

      There was a very lucid and agreeable priest William Pearson-Gee on GB News’ Mark Stein Show last night. Go to 46.40 on this video.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v937CDk46gU

  14. 368488+ up ticks,

    This is surely an admission of guilt from ALL concerned
    in pushing the jab / fear campaign, and ALL English speaking indigenous peoples were touched by that one way or tother.

    NHS creates £1.3bn pot for Covid compensation claims
    The effects of delayed diagnoses and treatment during the pandemic are evident now in the number of deaths from cancer and heart disease

  15. Morning all 😊

    Not as forecast yesterday.
    Greyer than grey out there.
    I could never understand why those huge ugly tower devices should be known as ‘farms’. I imagine a crowd of over paid people sitting around a table for weeks on end with no imagination.
    UEME might have been a better option.
    Ugly Enforced Mandatry Equipment.
    For profiteering.

      1. It’s horrible to have to see them and drive past them at the side of the road in country areas.

        1. We have one very near here which was installed years ago by Dale Vince the millionaire boss of Ecotrickery and owner of the local football team Forest Green Rovers – a village team now struggling at the bottom of league 1.

      1. Ah of course 🤭😀 although the act of installing each one uses around five tons of concrete.
        I used that analogy of the people around a table, after a CEO of a paint company told me of the struggles they often had trying to find a new name for the colour magnolia.

      2. Same with solar ‘farms’ which our all set to surround the little village I was living in, in Mid-Suffolk. All valuable, food-growing fields.

        I refuse to call the ‘farms’ but refer to them as Solar Power Stations.

    1. Taxation.
      If wind-powered turbines were listed as industrial installations, the land would attract business rates and the inheritance tax situation would be tricky for the landowner.

    2. Taxation.
      If wind-powered turbines were listed as industrial installations, the land would attract business rates and the inheritance tax situation would be tricky for the landowner.

  16. And the ballon d-or for utter money-grubbing hypocrisy goes to Gary Lineker.

    Gary Lineker pocketed a whopping £1.6million working for Qatar’s state broadcaster as he fronted Champions League coverage over four years
    Lineker gave ‘virtue- signalling’ monologue ahead of tournament opening match
    But he was paid £400k a year for 4 years by Al Jazeera, owned by Qatari state
    Lineker’s last deal with the Doha-based broadcaster was signed in August 2012 – 20 months after the controversial decision to hand Qatar the World Cup

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11479113/Gary-Lineker-pocketed-whopping-1-6million-working-Qatars-state-broadcaster.html

  17. Good morning all

    Foggy morning here , still and quiet , a few local car crashes already ..

    So , the prat Gove wants more rural windfarms , what a plonker .

    1. Everyone despises Gove – and especially his ex-wife and friends so how does he get away with it?

    1. I think it is heartwarming that they have managed – in such a short time – to do so well…..

    1. The whole point of electric cars and the banning of ICE cars is to immobilise us. It is the same with travel passports – as the realisation that Covid ‘vaccination’ is a severe danger to health people will not want to take their umpteenth jab and so won’t be eligible for a travel passport.

      1. That’s why I’ve resigned myself to never travelling abroad again. I’ve been pretty fortunate, in that I’ve seen a lot of the world.

      1. Looser pickings and police who are more interested in online hate crime than in real crime.

  18. Thank you, Dear NoTTLers:

    Another morning, another day when getting it off my chest on NoTTL (and reading of others with similar feelings/thoughts) helps me enormously in getting through the rest of the day.

    1. Dividing 6,500,000,000 by 40, 000, means each room costs £162,500.

      Is this Serco making more corrupt money or are the figures somewhat awry?

      1. If the accommodation cost was £100 per person per day, and will surely be more with food, clothing etc, then that comes to £36,500 pa.
        Equally, do you think Serco is not making a good profit on the whole national scam?

      2. Rupert Soames is Churchill’s grandson – I wonder if his grandfather is proud of what he is doing to destroy Britain.

      3. Don’t forget the cost of translating breakfast menus* into forty seven different languages.

        *Little chance Full English is included – far too much pig meat.

  19. SIR – I was part of the congregation at the Cambridge evensong service on which you report. My organ teacher was performing in the recital beforehand, and all I can say is that the music transcended the address.

    There were young people in the congregation, and the explicit words used by the guest preacher, Joshua Heath, were entirely inappropriate. Mr Heath made a veiled reference to Jordan Peterson, who was at one point banned from speaking at Cambridge – yet when it suits, free speech is considered thought-provoking .

    People were uncomfortable, and I focused on my Christmas shopping list rather than listening. This was an address given on the wrong platform to a congregation that deserved better.

    Avril Wright
    Snettisham, Norfolk

    Walking out mid-address, after a few choice words, might have been more effective than studying your shopping list, Ms Wright?

  20. 368488+ up ticks,

    The need for more mass uncontrolled immigrants must be there as clearly shown by the mass uncontrolled
    immigration parties membership / voters, the intake has been in evidence for decades.

    Gerard Batten
    @gjb2021
    ·
    22h
    Tory constituencies ‘under siege’ from housebuilding threats. We cannot bring in hundreds of thousands of migrants, legal & illegal, every year (currently running at 1m every 2years) without building millions of new homes.

    New tower blocks are being crammed into cities, & green spaces will have to be increasingly concreted over. It is an inevitable consequence.

    Britain is a post-industrial nation & England is one of the most densely populated countries in the world. We don’t need, & cannot accommodate or find employment for, millions of migrants.

    We are not bringing these people in because we need them but in order to fulfil the diktat of the Globalists to destroy national identity, loyalty & cohesion. The cohesive nation state is the greatest threat to the NW…more
    Tory housing rebel insists suburbs ‘under siege’ by new builds as she seeks to block house build
    Tory housing rebel insists suburbs ‘under siege’ by new builds as she seeks to block house build

    A Conservative ex-minister has claimed that leafy Home Counties constituencies like her own are “under siege” from new housing

    1. It is a mystery to us why assorted leftists, feminists, right-on humanists and the liberal intelligentsia, welcome

      into this country tribal Islamists who are fundamentally illiberal, homophobic, misogynistic, patriarchal and religiously intolerant.

      1. Because to confront the truth would be “racist” in their eyes (plus their heads would explode, no doubt).

    2. The rural areas like mine are also under siege from new housing (and they completely lack the infrastructure to cope). I’ve just seen a new application for 62 houses on green fields. Ambulance waiting times are in excess of four hours, we can’t get to see a GP, the roads are crowded, dentist capacity is virtually nil, police are invisible, crime is rising and, to cap it all, they are foisting illegals (in the shape of “asylum seekers”) on us. Even the countryside is no longer safe.

    1. Oh dear…can’t you just hear the ‘Little Englander’ jibes when anyone dares to complain??

      ‘Morning, LD. Depressing, isn’t it?

      1. Answer: there is nothing wrong with being a “little Englander” it just means not getting involved in conflicts that do not concern us.

  21. 368488+ up ticks,

    Gerard Batten
    @gjb2021
    ·
    15h
    Wow, maybe the Government could even do something about the industrialised rape gangs operating all over the UK?

    If they don’t know where to start maybe they could appoint Tommy Robinson as an advisor?
    Or maybe not, look what happened to me when I did.

    https://gettr.com/post/p1zzm3o44e9

    1. My patient was not just a victim of her mother, however: she had knowingly borne children of men of whom no good could be expected. She knew perfectly well the consequences and the meaning of what she was doing, as her reaction to something that I said to her—and say to hundreds of women patients in a similar situation—proved: next time you are thinking of going out with a man, bring him to me for my inspection, and I’ll tell you if you can go out with him.

      This never fails to make the most wretched, the most “depressed” of women smile broadly or laugh heartily. They know exactly what I mean, and I need not spell it out further. They know that I mean that most of the men they have chosen have their evil written all over them, sometimes quite literally in the form of tattoos, saying “FUCK OFF” or “MAD DOG.” And they understand that if I can spot the evil instantly, because they know what I would look for, so can they—and therefore they are in large part responsible for their own downfall at the hands of evil men.

      This is of course a quote from Theodore Dalrymple and as usual shines with its own internal truth. It also shows us why he is never invited onto the MSM!

      1. At first the quoted text looked like a novel from a bygone age in the USA.
        But yes, TD’s experience can be confirmed by other academics.
        I met one who refers to such men as ‘fighters and fornicators’. Traditionally a male should also be able to run well.

    2. My patient was not just a victim of her mother, however: she had knowingly borne children of men of whom no good could be expected. She knew perfectly well the consequences and the meaning of what she was doing, as her reaction to something that I said to her—and say to hundreds of women patients in a similar situation—proved: next time you are thinking of going out with a man, bring him to me for my inspection, and I’ll tell you if you can go out with him.

      This never fails to make the most wretched, the most “depressed” of women smile broadly or laugh heartily. They know exactly what I mean, and I need not spell it out further. They know that I mean that most of the men they have chosen have their evil written all over them, sometimes quite literally in the form of tattoos, saying “FUCK OFF” or “MAD DOG.” And they understand that if I can spot the evil instantly, because they know what I would look for, so can they—and therefore they are in large part responsible for their own downfall at the hands of evil men.

      This is of course a quote from Theodore Dalrymple and as usual shines with its own internal truth. It also shows us why he is never invited onto the MSM!

  22. Dr Hall was not avaiable for comment:

    A GP has been working from home more than 250 miles away from her surgery after relocating to the Cornish seaside, The Telegraph can reveal.

    Dr Justine Hall is one of three doctors listed as working at Rudgwick Medical Centre in Horsham, West Sussex.

    Her name appears in bold lettering on the gold nameplate outside the surgery.

    It is also Dr Hall’s voice that greets patients who call the telephone, with her recorded voice stating the surgery is experiencing “high demand” for its services.

    But rather than working on site to serve the surgery’s thousands of patients, the mother-of-three now conducts consultations in Falmouth, 265 miles away from the quaint village surgery.

    The surgery’s website states Dr Hall has been “working locally” to Guildford, Surrey, a 30-minute drive from the surgery, since 2015.

    She holds consultations “remotely” two days a week, on Wednesdays and Thursdays, while the other two doctors can be seen in person.

    ‘It’s just outrageous’
    A disgruntled patient, who wished to remain anonymous, said it is “outrageous” Dr Hall is able to continue working from the other side of the country.

    She said: “I was staggered when I was told she had moved to Cornwall. They are only offering remote appointments.

    “For some diagnoses you need to see someone, and yet they think it’s ok to have the number two doctor in the practice living in Cornwall.

    “It’s just outrageous. It used to be a very highly thought-of practice and now it’s not.

    “Everyone is fed up with them and no-one has any faith in them any more. Lots of people in the village can’t afford to go to a private GP. It’s just not fair.”

    It comes amid criticism of GPs for not yet getting the proportion of face-to-face appointments back to pre-coronavirus levels.

    Earlier this month, a senior figure at the Royal College of GPs admitted doctors went “too far” with remote appointments at the height of the pandemic.

    Before Covid, around 80 per cent of GP appointments were held face-to-face, while the figures for September showed 68 per cent were in-person.

    Steve Brine MP, chairman of the health committee, said: “We know that general practice is experiencing a crisis with doctors leaving a demoralised profession almost as fast as they can be recruited and patients increasingly dissatisfied with worsening access to care.

    “It is concerning to hear reports of patients who are struggling to get face-to-face appointments and who are losing faith in the system.”

    A social media page which appears to belong to the GP records her as living in Falmouth.

    The account recently commented on a local page lamenting the closure of the local bowling alley and swimming pool.

    According to the surgery’s website, Dr Hall “has two Romanian rescue dogs called Flo and Brian and three rescue cats who keep her very busy”.

    Patient Olivia Shepley said she has had to take her daughter Alice, two, to accident and emergency three times this month for easily treatable ear infections, because she could not get an appointment in person.

    The property manager, 34, said: “We were told Dr Hall had moved to Cornwall by a friend.

    “I can’t believe there is a GP on staff who is living in another part of the country – that’s not treatment.”

    In another review shared on the surgery’s page on the NHS website in August, an anonymous patient wrote: “Have been with this surgery for over 40 years.

    “Has been fantastic until the last few years when quality of service has been steadily getting worse.”

    The shortage of GPs is exacerbated by the number of doctors choosing to work part-time.

    One in four GPs worked full-time in August.

    The number of full-time equivalent qualified permanent GPs fell from 27,041 in October 2021 to 26,791 last month.

    A spokesman for Rudgwick Medical Centre said: “We aim to provide the very best care for our patients.

    “If any patients have concerns about any aspect of their care, we would encourage them to contact us directly so we can investigate their concerns through our complaints procedure.

    “For a number of years our commissioners and NHS England have supported remote working in our area.”

    Dr Hall was not available for comment.

    Another example of why market-type incentives badly need to be introduced at the patient-GP interface in the NHS.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/11/28/gp-working-home-250-miles-away-surgery/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr

    1. I know of a British senior civil servant who works from home just down the road from us.
      Nice work if you can get it!
      Flies back to the UK if face to face meetings are needed.

      1. This is where Dominic Cummings could have upset the applecart. The data is out there, but unless it is collated, nobody can ever analyse it.
        For example, as England & Wales is a lot smaller than France it is quite easy for local government officers to live outside the county or metropolitan area. Thus they can take decisions which affect the residents, but not themselves.

        1. We get that a lot with planning decisions; the ones who take them are not affected by their choice to allow planning applications to go ahead.

    2. There were market reforms in the early 1990s but from 1997 the Neo-Socialists made it a priority to get rid of them.
      The Prime Minister says that he is ‘NHS to his fingertips’, but he is registered with a private medical service in West London according to the MSM.

  23. SIR – Dr Chris Barry (Letters, November 28) says the only way the NHS could cope during the pandemic was by assessing on the phone or by video whether a patient needed seeing.

    Dr Barry should know that, because of the unique ability of Covid-19 to cause silent hypoxia, his claim is incorrect. The only way of assessing whether a patient needed admission to hospital (for life-saving oxygen) was by seeing them and checking their oxygen saturation levels using a pulse oximeter.

    The delay in getting patients to hospital caused by the failure of GPs to see them face to face probably resulted in the preventable deaths of thousands of our patients. It is to be hoped that this national scandal will be addressed by any future inquiry into the management of the pandemic.

    As a member of the Royal College of General Practitioners, I had hoped that the recent change in leadership would result in a refocusing on professional standards and patient care rather than working conditions 
 – properly the remit of the British Medical Association GP committee. It looks as if I will be disappointed.

    Dr Gregory Tanner
    Middlezoy, Somerset

    Speaking of telephone assessments…the daughter of a friend of ours gave birth via a C-section. Within a few days the wound was showing signs of infection. Via Zoom or similar, a GP agreed and prescribed antibiotics without any swab being taken, but these didn’t work. It was only when her mother, on her own initiative, obtained a swab and took it into the surgery that the infection was eventually diagnosed correctly a few days later and the appropriate antibiotics prescribed.

    It gets worse…the baby wasn’t feeding at all well. Mum could see that it was tongue-tied and therefore unable to suck properly. The surgery dismissed the idea. The baby wasn’t feeding and was screaming with hunger. In sheer desperation a paediatric expert was consulted privately who arranged to call at the house the same day. He immediately confirmed Mum’s diagnosis and snipped it there and then. The baby is now doing well, but her mother’s distress has been so bad that she has been completely put off having any further children.

    Our ‘wonderful NHS’ strikes again…

    1. It is to be hoped that this national scandal will be addressed by any future inquiry into the management of the pandemic.

      Hope springs eternal. Lol!

    2. Dr Tanner says Dr Barry’s claim is incorrect, but is it?
      the only way the NHS could cope during the pandemic was by assessing on the phone or by video whether a patient needed seeing.

      The way I see it is that the NHS coped just fine as far as the NHS was concerned, it was just the patients who suffered.

  24. Things are looking up…..I had a phone call for an appointment at midday today for an ECG and a GP app later today.

      1. I’ve just signed into my lottery account and the 25 pounds I had in there has gone.
        I’ve emailed them to inform them of this. I had an email supposedly from them telling me debit card was about to run out. Which was nonsense.
        I deleted it.
        Strange.

    1. I have an annual “Old man’s MOT” (full medical) every ten months-or-so. I don’t have to make an appointment as one is made for me. I receive a letter from my GP telling me to report to the surgery to provide a blood sample, a week before another appointment for the medical, when I take a urine sample with me.

      I have had this every year, without interruption, since I passed 60. I received a letter a week ago informing me that my next appointment is on 21/12 and to attend the surgery on 14/12 for the blood sample to be taken.

      1. They do that in England as well, provided that you can afford health insurance and are able to pay the excess.

      2. Ah, but you are no longer at the whim of the “envy of the world” and thus your health service works.

  25. Christians now a minority in England and Wales for first time

    Proportion of the population of England and Wales describing themselves as Christian has fallen below a half, ONS figures from 2021 show.

    £6.5 billion on hotel rooms for 40,000 migrants?

    I wonder if the ever increasing number of Doveristas are included.

    1. Morning! As Mark Steyn observed yesterday on GBN, there are now more practicing Anglicans in Nigeria than in England and Wales, despite active persecution of the church there by the mohammedans.

      1. Yes but… I was talking last summer to a Nigerian lady who identifies as Christian but is a Jehovah’s Witness.

    2. OLT, you might care to consider this:

      Lawyers for England and Wales’ Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) attempted to convict a Christian street preacher for quoting the Bible to a lesbian couple, arguing that scripture is “no longer appropriate in modern society.”

      The extraordinary case was brought against armed forces veteran and throat cancer survivor John Dunn in Swindon after police referred him to prosecutors for telling a lesbian couple that “it says in the Bible that homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God.”

          1. The DT says the case was dropped because the lesbians wouldn’t co-operate with the Crown Prosecution Service. Who not to believe?

    3. Answer to last sentence.
      None, they don’t know who any of them are. But might have caught them on their knees……oh hang on, future footballers ?

      1. Definitely none as it’s based on the last census figures. Mind you, I wonder how many of those “non-Christians” will get married in church, have their children baptised (as opposed to having a “naming ceremony”) and have a funeral in church.

  26. Re the stats about Christians – I came across this yesterday while looking up details of Litcham church – a few miles away:

    “The Church of England has been transformed since I was a child. It so often no longer holds a central place in the lives of the communities to which it ministers. Perhaps this is a result of an increasingly diverse and fragmented society, resulting in a loss of confidence, or a change of priorities. But perhaps it is something that has changed in the nature of the Church itself.

    I wandered around, sensing ghosts of my own past. I had been a choirboy in a church just like this, not in a quiet Norfolk village but in the busy working class suburbs of north Cambridge. The church had been at the centre of our lives – we played football for the choir team, we played hide and seek in the graveyard, we helped out at jumble sales, we went to fetes in the walled gardens of the huge Georgian Vicarage. Most of our parents were blue collar workers, apart from the occasional teacher or office worker. Many mums worked on the production lines of the Pye Telecom factory. Blocks of flats shadowed the Vicarage walls. Some of the boys in the choir were not even Anglicans, but from Catholic or non-conformist families, or even from families of no faith at all.

    The parish church was at the centre of all our lives, the touchstone that ordered them. It had a sense of the eternal about it – but this was nonsense, of course. The robed choir and intoned services were Victorian inventions, based on what was thought traditional cathedral worship. They were a mid-19th Century response to the teachings of the Oxford Movement. Like Christmas, the High Church CofE was an invented tradition. But it was a comforting one. It wasn’t even religion really. We never presumed to understand much of what we were singing. The English was solid Cranmer. Grammar school boys like me could unravel some of the Latin, but the theology was probably beyond any of us. But what touched the heart was the mystery, and what captured the soul was the sense of permanence and belonging. And I saw it again, here. I thought how lucky the people of Litcham were to have this still in their midst.

    Jonathan Boston, whose church this was and who maintained its tradition in the face of a changing world, died in 2021. He had stayed on at Litcham after his retirement, continuing his ministry in Litcham church. He was much loved by the people of the village, all of whom he seemed to know by name. The churchwarden at Litcham told me that when the hearse carrying him to his funeral drove through the village, the streets were lined with people paying their last respects. I thought how lovely that was, and what a lovely place Litcham was, and that I wouldn’t leave it so long before coming back again.”

    1. I remember bell-ringing at Bungay St Mary’s Church and in Flowton, with no shop, pub, school, church hall or bus service, the church (another St Mary’s but much, much older) is the hub of the village. As Lay Chairman of the PCC (Parochial Church Council – responsible for the fabric only) I was happy to have raised thousands of pounds to assist the building of a kitchen and a toilet that enhanced that hub’s capability and brings in many visitors.

      1. Good man yourself, Tom.
        That’s (IMO) how churches should work – off the sweat of their parishoners, with b-all influence and money from outside. If it’s worth working for, it’s worth having.

      2. Actually the PCC is responsible for more than just the fabric. We’re also answerable for the finances and for ticking all the boxes for the Charity Commission.

    2. Too many clergy today don’t want tradition. Our rectorette appears to be one such. It is causing mutterings amongst the PCC, congregation, church wardens and the Director of Music. What was once a happy, friendly, welcoming church with fantastic music is becoming a hotbed of sedition! The last time I saw the rectorette she was muttering about “mutiny” because people didn’t want to take down the Christmas trees after the Christmas tree festival! That’s hardly mutiny, it’s expressing a preference. She is adamant they will have to go, though (why, I don’t know because they look lovely and they don’t impede the services).

  27. Democracy is at risk. We can’t let oligarchs exploit British courts to silence their critics. 29 November 2022.

    Free speech is the fundamental basis upon which democratic life is built. Many of our other precious freedoms stem from it. In the UK, we naturally take it very seriously. But it is now under threat, from oligarchs and crooks who are abusing our world-renowned legal system in order to silence their critics.

    There is an epidemic of so-called lawfare cases in the UK. The world’s super-rich are hitting journalists, writers, whistleblowers and anyone else who scrutinises them with Slapps – strategic lawsuits against public participation. These are defamation accusations, often with a spurious basis (if they have any basis at all), brought with the intention of terrifying those who question them.

    There is no greater danger to Free Speech than Westminster. Today they published the “changes” to the Online Harms Bill which is intended to muzzle forums such as this under the guise of protecting children!

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/nov/29/oligarchs-british-courts-law-slapps-lawsuits

    1. Yes, as a parallel in PR China I see that the PTB are removing images of blank A4 sheets of paper from the web.
      I can never understand why people in the UK do not just simply wave two fingers at super injunctions and the like.

      1. Everything seems gloomy today. It’s cold too. News is just as bad. TCW articles all gloom-inspiring.

      1. Yes – I’ll be going over early afternoon. At least it’s warm in there. I need to get home before dark today if the fog stays or comes back early. It was dark when I got home yesterday but it was clear. I can’t see too well with the bright dazzling lights coming straight towards me.

          1. Took nrearly an hour to drive home, so althhough not quite dark when I left the hospital, it was pitch dark and foggy most of the way home.

          1. That’s what I thought. It also had blue circular lights towards the outside of the wings. I had never seen anything like it before (or, to be honest, since).

          2. They are an absolute menace.
            I am partly comforted by the fact that people half my age also complain about them.

      1. It’s the old version from the days when Yorkshire cricketers had to be born in Yorkshire and eat bacon sandwiches.

        1. Yes, my eldest daughter could play Cricket for Yorkshire, borne in Fulford Hospital (just outside York) but now living in Tasmania.

          1. I had a Yorkshire dad but I was disqualified by being born 9 miles south of the Yorkshire border!

        1. There are 78 listed for Bradford but it is probably a grand understatement. Keighley district has only one Mosque/Masjid (house of prayer) listed but there are probably 20+ schools/mosques/masjids. That makes more than 500 in the Bradford area alone.

  28. 368488+ up ticks,

    The threats get more dire,

    DT,

    David Miliband hints at return to politics
    Former foreign secretary says he is ‘enthusiastic about where Keir Starmer has taken Labour’

        1. I believe it was Thomas Beecham who stopped a rehearsal when a member of the orchestra placed a bum note.

          Sir Thomas Beecham: You. What is your name?

          Errant musician : Ball, Sir

          Sir Thomas Beecham: How very singular!

  29. A snapshot of modern Britain: 29 November 2022.

    England and Wales are becoming less white and Christian, according to new official data today that reveals a snapshot of modern Britain.

    The number of people in the two nations identifying their ethnic group as white has fallen by around 500,000 over a decade, the Office for National Statistics said.

    Some 81.7 per cent of residents in England and Wales described themselves as white on the day of the 2021 census, down from 86 per cent a decade earlier.

    There are two informative; perhaps one should say reassuring, interactive maps in this article that allow you to find the proportions in your own area. My own is 95% white still! Phew! Breathes huge sigh of relief!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11480799/Census-results-2021-Data-maps-religion-ethnicity-England-Wales.html

    1. Very interesting maps. According to government statistics, there are 9.6 million people living in the UK who were not born there. How many millions are there who are 2nd, 3rd, 4th generation immigrants?

      1. Should only be allowed in and called British, if they can prove that all four of their Grandparent were British by birth.

    2. If you can find it on those maps. It took many tries to find Flowton and its neighbours.

      Of course no input from Scotland.

    3. 96.7% in Shropshire – soon to become considerably less once the gimmigrunts have been put in hotels in Oswestry.

  30. Well ….. that is one way to spend 17 hours of your life that you will never get back.
    Yesterday evening, I took Elder Son to the Colchester General Hospital with stomach pains. As we suspected, his appendix was blowing up.
    We arrived at the Emergency Dept. at 7.0 pm. We waited. We waited. And we waited.
    Every so often, blood would be taken; another time it was urine ….. and so it went on.
    Finally, at 12 midday today, he was admitted to the Surgical Assessment Unit and will have his appendectomy this afternoon.

    1. To wait so long must have been awful, especially with your knowledge that peritonitis is always a possibility.

    2. When that happened to me at age 14, I went to the doctor who diagnosed acute appendicitis. When I got home, my mother had been notified that an ambulance was on its way.

      I was speedily whisked off to the Norfolk and Norwich (15 miles away), where they were waiting for me and I had an appendectomy that night.

      That was 64 years ago – how times change and I feel for your stress levels, Anne, and maybe those of Elder Son, if he was sufficiently conscious of all the unnecessary fuss.

    3. An oft repeated story about the founder of the NHS:

      Apparently Nye (Aneurin) Bevan was delighted to hear that a disease had been named for him. Thrilled he looked up the medical definition of ‘Aneurism’ to discover it said, “A bloody clot that ought to be removed immediately.”

    4. Good heavens Anne ,
      Poor you, poor MB and poor son ..

      I expect you are fed up with the procrastinations that the NHS is putting on everyone . Symptons are straight forward , diagnose , into theatre then out ..all over in 45 minutes or less ..

      A cup of tea or two and a slice of cake will be a great strengthener for you .

    5. Anne
      I hope you write to the CEO (ceoemail.com) and make an official complaint and copy in you MP.
      They can’t continue to be allowed to get away with treating people like this.

    6. Oh blimey Anne – it never rains but it pours……. you just get MB home and then that happens. My OH was admitted very quickly really……… he’s still in the cardiology ward nearly two weeks later. But he had an angiogram today. I arrived to find an empty bed. He was wheeled back after about 25 minutes, having been out all day to Cheltenham.

      I hope all goes well with the appendectomy.

      1. Ouve been watching too many septic hospital dramas, Ndovu. Don’t we call it an appendicectomy in Blighty?

        1. Do we? I can’t remember but that is how Anne spelt it. I don’t watch hospital dramas but I did have my appendix removed when I was 10.

    7. Sorry to read this news just now, Anne, at 12.45 am on Wednesday. I hope your son’s appendectomy went ahead without any bad side effects.

    1. Bell, of nearby Ferryside, admitted two charges of causing serious injury by dangerous driving, driving whilst unfit through drugs, driving without a licence and driving without insurance.

      Prosecutor James Hartson said: ‘He continued to drive after the collision and witnesses formed the view that it was obvious he was trying to get away.

      ‘The mechanical state of his own vehicle prevented him from doing so. He attempted to blame the rider of the motorcycle and was heard to say “I’m f*****”.’

      He will only serve half of his 30-month sentence in jail.

      It’s our criminal justice system that’s f*****!

      1. There’s not enough room to lock miscreants up for as long as they deserve. The number of crimes is increasing day by day.

        Only a few days ago, as I was leaving Tesco, which always has things on promotion piled up in the lobby, two lads in front of me stopped and one of them said, quite unashamedly, “Let’s see if there’s anything worth stealing this week”

    2. Soft on crime, soft on the causes of crime.
      A 30 month/2 is an insult to the injured couple and an affront to justice.

  31. Jacob Rees-Mogg warns against ‘ill-advised’ Tory rebellions
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/11/29/rishi-sunak-latest-news-china-nicola-sturgeon-migrants/

    BTL

    I always hoped that JRM was the embodiment of Conservatism and now that the Conservative Party is no longer Conservative that he would try to find a party which is.

    Most polticians are rats – but intelligent rats leave a sinking ship – I fear that JRM is not even a very intelligent rat!

  32. Computer now relocated from dining room, the DT’s lair, to the sitting room after a quick brush up and vacuuming and now awaiting the DT’s arrival home from Dr. Daughters.

    Got some precooked chicken pieces, an onion, mushrooms, stir-fry mixed veg and noodles mixed in with a Thai green curry sauce on the Rayburn for when she gets back.

    1. I made Shepherds pie yesterday with a difference. Instead of putting mash on top, I boiled and thinly sliced some baby spuds and layered them with a few knobs of butter on top. Went down a treat and there’s plenty for tonight. Which is good after a morning at the hospital and then a shop. And it’s cold today.

  33. Afternoon, all. I’ve been waiting in all day in the hope I’ll finally get my washing machine delivered. No sign of it yet. I see revolving Richie is about to U turn on wind turbines as he has on so much else. The pillocks are soon to make oil-fired heating illegal and force everybody in the countryside to have expensive and inefficient heat pumps. Incandesscent doesn’t come close to describing how I feel about these nincompoops. Come friendly bombs and fall on Slough Westminster.

  34. 368488+ up ticks,

    May one ask,

    I believe thousands of tons of coal are due to arrive at
    immingham dock, will the green jobbees have a claim for compensation for injured feelings ?

  35. A comment about teenagers killing badgers:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/11/29/youths-killing-badgers-gain-social-media-clout-tiktok/

    My comment (now removed):

    Never mind their reasons behind it.

    It is about time that the ‘endangered species’ label was removed, they are a plague in the countryside, digging under roads and weakening them so that they are closed for months on end because the council, “cant’do anything about them until after August.”

    Pah, total weakness. Gas the buggers (and that’s with no mention of them spreading bovine TB.)

      1. Ditto, wibbling, but shouldn’t we do the same with the beggars? (I’m thinking here of Zelensky, and all those poor victims of British colonialism.)

    1. Still up there.

      Tom Hunn
      26 MIN AGO
      Never mind their reasons behind it.
      It is about time that the ‘endangered species’ label was removed, they are a plague in the countryside, digging under roads and weakening them so that they are closed for months on end because the council, “cant’do anything about them until after August.”
      Pah, total weakness. Gas the badgers (and that’s with no mention of them spreading bovine TB.)

      1. Originally mine was deleted as i said ‘buggers’ and then changed it to badgers, which appears acceptable.

    2. The Animal Welfare Bill 1972 gave all the rights to the badgers; cue a population explosion and problems with badgers undermining (literally) foundations.

  36. 368488+ up ticks,

    Heads will roll for this,the idiots can believe in that if nothing else.

    England No Longer a Christian Nation as Atheism and Islam Make Gains – Census

    1. No longer a white nation, either. The problem is, when all the tax payers have gone and tax income collapses, what will it do?

      1. 368488+ up ticks,

        Afternoon SiadC,

        Precisely,I sadly do believe we, as a nation are leading the field in the self annihilation stakes.

      1. Apparently I just snore despite having had a uvulopalatopharyngoplasty, removal of uvula, tonsils and scar tissue left on the back of the throat to prevent snoring – didn’t work.

        1. I had that done 30 odd years ago. The only effect it had was to make anything I drank come straight out of my nose. My wife and I have to sleep in separate rooms.

    1. Little boy was killed by a Rottweiler here in the summer. Case just in court. Apparently, the Rott wouldn’t hurt a fly, despite whilst “only playing” a year or so ago mauled a little girl badly enough for her to need stitches. Despite this, the lady owner didn’t do anything about it.
      They nearly had to kill the Rott to get it to let go of the wee lad’s head, it was so in the killing zone.
      Bloody awful for everybody involved. I’m not sure the dog owner is all there, apparently yesterday she said she was feeling bad, and asked the court if she can go home. It’s more likely she’ll get 6 years inside for culpable homicide.

          1. It wasn’t really the dog’s fault, in all probability. I’m of the firm opinion there are no bad dogs, only bad (or useless) owners.

          2. There were plenty of warning attacks on small children, but she did nothing about it. Now, she’ll have plenty of time to rue her inaction – and remember her little grandson torn to bits by her dog. Although she was stupid at not taking action when she should, I’d not wish that fate on any but a politician.

        1. Bad choice, Phizzee. It’s cheaper to kill the owner and lock up the dog, because dogs doing a life sentence don’t live as long, their food bills are less and they don’t need a colour telly in their dog pounds.

      1. Most domestic dogs are 99% wolf. Even the soppiest ones. The only defence a dog has is its teeth and it will use them.
        I always told kid visitors to never tease my dogs- they will bite if they feel threatened. They were all big goofs but you never know.

        1. I always look on aghast when seeing kids go to let unknown animals. And even the pet owners say nothing. Asking for trouble.

        2. Rumpole never bit. We had mock fights and he may have held my arm in his mouth but he knew never to apply too much pressure so he never bit me in earnest and he never ever left a mark on anybody. He was big, fit, muscular, strong, made impressive aggressive noises but he was the gentlest of softies.

        3. They are a dog, not a cuddly toy. The number of times I’ve warned people not to touch Oscar’s head because of his history and he’s likely to snap, only to have them do it and say something like “where has that come from?” when he warns them off. Well, it’s come from my telling you not to do it and you, you prat, ignoring what I said and doing it anyway!

    1. Never ‘eard of ‘er.
      TBF – she’s never heard of me because I don’t mix with vacuous bints.

  37. I’ve been trying my best to follow an Antony Worrall Thompson recipe,
    the most difficult part so far is stealing the cheese from Tesco.

    1. When the new range of sausages came out In the name of AWT on the label it said Prick with a Fork.

      1. He was caught out at a self service till. Also, apparently it wasn’t the first time.

        There is other gossip among Chefs about how cheap he is on the entertaining front.

        It’s not you is it !!!!?

  38. I’ve just bought a Jehova’s Witnesses advent calendar.

    Every time I open a little door, it tells me to “fuck off”.

    1. Why do elephants have big ears?
      Coz they can’t catch noddy. Boom boom.

      There were loads of elephant jokes back in the day. Very good.

      1. I thought it was “Why do elephants have Big Ears? “Because Noddy won’t pay the ransom”

          1. Nearly forty years ago I worked in Selfridges for a buyer whose all time favourite joke was, “Why does Noddy have a long red hat with a bell on the end? Because he’s a c*nt”. All these years later I still don’t get it but it made Sally roar with laughter.

            Sally gave up work after she returned home from an expensive holiday and her toddler daughter hid behind the legs of her nanny because she was frightened of the stranger. She resolved thereafter not to be an absent parent. (She wasn’t a single mother. Her husband was a high earner too.)

          1. Why is an elephant large and grey?
            Because if he were small and yellow he would be a canary.

          2. I know similar

            Why are elephants big, grey and wrinkled?
            Because if they were small, round and white they’d be aspirins

  39. Just been ‘out the front’of the house to put the blick dust bin out

    The person sensitive security lights came on: it was 1517.

    1. Electric lighting had not been invented in 1517. You must be mistaken. Try recalibrating your time machine.

    2. Electric lighting had not been invented in 1517. You must be mistaken. Try recalibrating your time machine.

  40. I had some shopping to do , just a little , I needed a packet of suet to make some dumplings for large pan of stew simmering away.

    I also had to walk the dogs , they were in the dog crate in the back off the car .. Today is dank dark and cold and the cold has a way of working its way up the back of the legs into my back.

    When I had walked about half a mile or so across the heathland on a muddy path with my dogs , another lady walker was walking in my direction with her dog ..we stopped and chatted about the chilly weather and this and that .. she informed me that her husband was a plumber .. he was a busy man she said.

    Interesting to hear that her husband had more trouble with elderly clients who refuse to put their heating on , they were turning their airing cupboard cylinder temps down , and not being able to deal with radiators that need a bleed . she also said that he has remarked that SMART meters are the largest worry and biggest con and an unnecessary expensive burden weighing people down in cold spells .

    She said that her husband would if he could , put an end to Smart meters , the people who persuaded the public to change over were criminals .

    Do any of you agree.. We don’t have a smart meter , so I know nothing really.

    1. Afternoon Belle. As a General Rule you should never increase anyone’s power over you! SMART meters allow them to turn off your power remotely!

      1. Ditto, Spikey. Even though I hate the cold with a vengeance.

        I wish I could afford to return to Estepona for at least another 5 years.

      2. Ditto, Spikey. Even though I hate the cold with a vengeance.

        I wish I could afford to return to Estepona for at least another 5 years.

      3. Exacto. They’re advertised as saving you money which is rubbish. Any fule know how to put a jumper on.

    2. Today is dank, dark and cold and the cold has a way of working its way up the back of the legs into my back.”

      Agreed Maggie, it seems to get into one’s very bones.

    3. My monthly bill has been toted up and came to £140. We havent had much heating on, very little hot water and a relatively warm month for November, so its quite a cost especially as the unit rate is subsidised. Next year, unless you are on benefits, its unlikely the rate will be capped and the bills will be eye watering. I dont need a smart meter to tell me any of the above! A price worth paying said Boris.

      1. I’ve just put my leccie and gas readings in. I’m still hovering around £68 for both. Sounds OK, except until a couple of months ago I was paying £42 each month 🙁

      2. I’ve just put my leccie and gas readings in. I’m still hovering around £68 for both. Sounds OK, except until a couple of months ago I was paying £42 each month 🙁

      3. Blimey! My usual consumption is around £65-70 per month. I used to be able to pay quarterly, but since MOH died and I had to put it in my name, they insist on monthly payments.

    4. I’ve always believed that smart meters were a con, Maggie, and I will never be persuaded otherwise. Same goes for HS2, Global Warming, Putin the Ogre, etc. etc. I only wish I had trusted my instincts before agreeing to 3 Covid-19 jabs (jags for the Scots amongst us), but my “conversion” is better late than never.

      Today was said to be devoid of rain, so I did some washing and hung it on the line. The “no rain” forecast was correct, but the lack of both sun and wind meant that the washing line was as useless as a wind farm and solar panels for the production of electricity. The clothes are now hanging indoors on clothes-line contraptions!

      1. Same here, Elsie, except that I’ve tumbled dried the towels and socks and put the remainder on a airing frame in front of a dehumidifier in the bathroom. Might as well not wasted the time hanging the washing out.

        1. Thank God for that; here in Dowding House, we get free use of washing machine and tumble drier. Since there is a demand for them (2 of each) I generally wait until late evening to do mine.

    5. We wouldn’t have a spy in the house meter. We supply monthly meter readings to our supplier.
      The meter reader has to call eventually as they can’t do those meters for gas as it would be dangerous to turn the gas off.

    6. I refuse to have a smart meter (even though reading my current meter requires the mountaineering skills of Chris Bonington). I read the meter, send the new readings to my electrickery company and get what I owe, go to the bank and pay it.

    1. And that will be a very special day too, pdf. (Those who don’t understand will need to wait for Richard to elucidate.)

        1. I think you three (Alec, molamola and M’Lady) are all trying to beat NoToNanny in some kind of jokes competition. Lol.

  41. Back from the nap – I don’t know if I’m refreshed but a cup of ‘Gunfire’ (tea with whisky) may revive me.

    1. Another nap, Tom? Does this mean it’s time for another of your wonderful jokes? (Only joking, I’m just back from another 90 minutes zizz myself!)

        1. Surely on the day after you should be writing about pinches, punches and white rabbits, not quizzes? Lol.

  42. I’ve just been to have a hair cut. The woman went mad – I’ve hardly any left. I’ll need a thick scarf to keep my neck warm.

    Across the road I noticed a men’s hairdresser I hadn’t noticed before, called Sherlock Combs. Made me giggle.

        1. Most NoTTLers are banging on about all barbers being Turkish and that their establishments are ways of money laundering.

          I’ll get me clippers.

    1. At least women have attractively-shaped heads, not the lumpen potato that passes for a man’s head.

        1. About the sexiest girl I ever met had a shaved head. Man, she was absolutely drop-dead gorgeous. Beautiful head, too. Never seen anyone quite like her since.

          1. ‘Twouldn’t do a thing for me Paul, there’s nothing like a wonderful crop of hair spread over the pillow next to you!.

    2. The last time i saw you you looked like you needed a damned good shearing !
      Thanks for the Champagne !

    3. “Have you had a haircut recently Sapper?”
      “Yes Sir! Had one yesterday”
      “Which one was it? The one with the bandage?”

  43. I see that teenager who once won a tennis match as received the MBE from the joke woke “king”.

    Talk about devaluing the “Honours” system….

  44. Time to draw a rod and line under the fish pun thread – it was starting to be catching..and for me to sign orfe.

    Another miserable sodding day. No sun – just misty and dark all day.

    Have a jolly evening.

    A demain.

  45. Twitter will no longer enforce its Covid-19 misinformation policy, under which users who deviated from prevailing establishment narratives frequently had their accounts locked or suspended.

    The longstanding policy did not apply to misinformation from government officials, who regularly lied about things such as transmission, masks, vaccine efficacy, side effects, or any of the other ‘science’ which turned out to be patently false.

    Twitter did not officially announce the change, rather, the company added a note to a page on its website outlining its Covid-19 policy.

    “Effective November 23, 2022, Twitter is no longer enforcing the COVID-19 misleading information policy,” reads the note, which follows a line that still reads: “As the global community faces the COVID-19 pandemic together, Twitter is helping people find reliable information, connect with others, and follow what’s happening in real time.”

    1. Hunter Biden. Joe Biden. Pelosi. Fauci. Clinton. Obama and many others. Probably all listed on the Lolita flights.

  46. You will doubtless be enthralled to hear that my new washing machine has been installed and I have run the “drum clean” program which I am supposed to do before its first use. Despite my expressing misgivings about its size before I bought it and being told “they are all a standard size” the damn thing is at least four inches longer than the previous machine and sticks out like a – well, like an over-sized washing machine 🙁 It has a five-year warranty, so I am stuck with it for the next five years at least. No doubt I will get accustomed to the huge, ugly monstrosity. After all, it just needs to do its job efficiently. It will make getting to the stop cock a bit tricky as there isn’t much room beside it. Fingers crossed there won’t be an emergency requiring the water to be shut off.

    1. I assume that you mean ‘wider’ rather than ‘deeper’, Conners?

      ‘Sticks out’ implies deeper fore-and-aft … whereas ‘there isn’t much room beside it’ implies excessive width …

      1. I think he means exactly that, it sticks out beyond the line of the worktop, if that’s where it is.

      2. No, I do mean deeper. It is about the same width (there never was much space for the stopcock, but they have left at least an inch gap to the right of the machine when they installed it – and it’s too heavy for me to shift it over to widen the space between that and the dishwasher where the stopcock is situated). It must be about four inches deeper than the original – they claimed it was because the pipes stick out and are not embedded in the wall, but that was the case for the previous machine which fitted flush with the unit.

        1. Yo Bill

          As age creeps up on you, it is well worth getting a Sure Stop fitted by your plumber, both for making your life easier and the ability to shut down the mains quickly in the event of a real emergency

          1. “My plumber”???????????? If only you lived in my world where plumbers are a thing of the pas…

        2. I paid a plumber £50 to install it. It’s less expensive than paying a plumber to rectify my mistakes.

      1. Ah yes. Fitting it, on the other hand, will require shifting the machine and a fair amount of contortion.

    1. BTL:
      Ihatecommunists
      1 hr ago
      And this is what happens when you have little to no border control. The blood is on the hands of the Government and the Courts for allowing people who enter the Country illegally to stay

    2. Comment from the (very low) Standard:

      Working closely with our French partners, we are determined to do all we can to get justice for the families of those whose lives were lost and disrupt and dismantle the cruel organised criminal networks involved in people smuggling.

      They shouldn’t have been on that boat at al.l as it’s purpose was illegal and all on board are responsible for illegality.

  47. Am I alone in thinking that LGTBQ people seem to have enormous trouble with (and be unhealthily overconcerned about) their genitals.

    1. From my personal observation, some transwomen are obsessed with bodily functions, to a degree that I have never before seen.

    2. They’re desperately searching for an identity in a world that doens’t make it easy. When you’re that insecure, that frightened you set out to shock to get the attention you crave.

  48. It seems “Go Woke” really doe mean “Go Broke!”

    2022 appears to be the year of the death of woke entertainment, at least at the box office and in streaming numbers with the majority of overtly leftist productions taking an epic nose dive in profits. Streaming shows like The Rings Of Power on Amazon and films like the gay comedy romance Bros are facing some of the worst audience numbers relative to their budgets in the history of popular media, and Strange World may be the most dismal performer of all.

    The movie is set to suffer the poorest opening week on company record relative to budget, and is one of the worst overall theatrical performers in years. Strange World had a production budget of over $180 million not counting marketing, and pulled in only $28 million in the first five days of its release. The movie is projected to lose around $147 million and is not expected to bring a spike in subscriptions once it is transferred over to Disney+.

    1. For them it’s a tax write off, however the tide is turning as money men look at the endless flops and say ‘we’re tired of this. Make a profit, or go.’ DC comics has hired David Zaslav and got rid of those wokers making rubbish – to th epoint of canning an entire Bat woman film.

      A film where the actress was race swapped, with a trans supporting actor, preaching a Left wing LBGHTHWWU up down left right attack helicopter message.

      The Rings of Power wasn’t so much woke as just…. rubbish. It was an appalling adaptation that had nothing to do with Tolkien’s work. Same as the Wheel of Time. That abomination will hopefully be burned alive, along with the hateful oaf trying to destroy it.

      1. ‘We’re tired of this. Make a profit, or go.’
        “Tell it not in Gath, Proclaim it not in the streets of Ashkelon, Or the daughters of the Philistines will rejoice, etc”
        There was a trade whisper about Harvey a few years ago; while his movies were earning money, the investors tolerated his shenanigans, then he lost the Midas touch and the protective forcefield was powered down.

          1. Not so Tom. Corim holds ver strong and deeply held convictions and isn’t afraid to call a Spad a Spad! He looked in a short while ago. I think most of us who subscribe to this forum, like him, despair over the shallowness of our MPs over the past couple of decades.

          2. It’s not that I dislike him but He is looking for us to have opinions for the Reform Party. I have a great opinion that Reform and other vote-splitters need to amalgamate and give us, the voting electorate, a manifesto which we can vote for, otherwise for me, it’s NOTA.

          3. I agree that the like minded minor parties along with ‘Not our Future’ need to amalgamate. Whether egos will prevent it I don’t know. It seems to me the UK is currently on board Titanic Mk II heading for pack ice of Labour dogma and Woke idiocy….

      1. I am coding an iPhone app at the moment, and hate all Apple products with a passion. Stuff that I can do easily on Android or Windows is such a palaver on iOS. Why anyone would pay over the odds for this heap of junk is more than I can understand. Their own operating system is full of bugs too, and terribly unstable – every time a new iOS version comes out (several times a year), we have to test, because they may have broken some functionality.

    1. In the commentary on the current spat between Apple and Twitter, It’s been pointed out that if Apple play hardball Musk could potentially ban Apple from it’s Starlink platform…

  49. Am going to bed….I slept badly last night and we have had a tiring day today. And another tomorrow.
    Best wishes to you all- Anne, hope your son is OK and Nvodu- I hope your husband is OK too.
    And anyone else with aches and pains etc.
    Goodnight.

    1. Only addition I’d make is to the socialism one, where it’d be ‘But your neighbour needs a horse.’

  50. Oh well England through, USA through.
    I’m through, I had the ECG and later my appointment with the doctor. He’s a decent 🇳🇴
    chap. There’s not a lot he can do, but make further requests for further action. Nice to hear that the electric shock treatment could still be on the cards. It took less than 2 hours previously. It might last longer than three months next time.
    The central heating came in handy today 👌
    So it’s good night all, from me.

    1. Goodnight, Eddy and God bless.

      I shan’t be too far behind as I have to be up betimes with an appointment with the MENTAL HEALTH Nurse at the surgery. All to to with my breakdown on NTTL on the previous Saturday.

      1. I’m glad you’re getting some help, Tom. I hope she can suggest some ways to improve your life.

        1. I confess, J, Why do I need a mental health nurse?

          I think I’m sane enough to have evaluated the efforts of you and other NoTTLers to drag me back from that black abyss. I don’t need Mental Health Nurses to go over it, again and again, to know that I was wrong, against my own beliefs. Which I hope I’ve made clear.

          1. No facility to edit but thank you, J, for caring enough. I don’t discard your wishes and hopes but sometimes I think that there is too much interference on how we run our lives, ourselves.. Love and hugs, you’re appreciated, m’dear.

          2. I’m afraid I was rather short with mine, a woman of the same age and professional status as my then-wife, who in March 1991 had gone off to a Travelodge to make babies with her lover, leaving me alone to think about doing the right thing for her. I told the nurse that I had gone right off women and that she couldn’t help me. Never did find the off switch – I seem to be wired up to be on all the time, a bit like a TV on standby.

          3. Having felt worthless and been suicidal for about ten years, I’m now persuaded that most psychological symptoms have a physical basis that can be treated. I don’t mean with psycho-pharma which is mostly a cosh on the symptoms as far as I can see, but by treating the root cause. Psychological wellbeing is now known to be closely linked to digestive wellbeing and gut health.
            Of course, bad things that crop up in life can also play a role – but if one can fix the physical causes, it’s easier to handle the bad things.
            Hope you get a bit of insight and help today.

          4. You have – but all the same, you need to make some new real-life, face to face contacts for daily life to be more bearable in your new home. We’re all friends here, but social contact is a good thing too. It can get very lonely if you never see or speak to people.

      2. Obviously your daily circumstances are not ideal, but my suggestion is to ask her to review your medication and diet.

          1. That is an excellent suggestion. In my experience, most healthcare professionals underestimate the psychological symptoms of medication and poor gut health (former suicidal sufferer speaking). Can’t be seen, can’t be measured, so it doesn’t exist (ha!).
            Good luck, hope you get something positive out of the appointment.

          2. Hopefully you might get to see the senior pharmacist as they know more about the interaction of drugs with each other than doctors do.
            Grandson is doing a Masters in Pharmacy degree and is already aware of the interaction of various drugs with each other. Last week he had a hospital placement with a Band 8 pharmacist in charge of medicine in the stroke unit.
            Good luck Tom we’ll be thinking of you.

  51. Migration Watch
    @MigrationWatch
    The #Census2021 figures paint a stark picture of the way in which very high levels of immigration have – in a short period of time – changed large parts of Britain, without democratic consent.

    Euphegenia Rustle MkII
    @PetraHaynesz
    ·
    7h
    Replying to
    @MigrationWatch
    And that is the key phrase, “without democratic consent”. Centuries of regional community, culture, traditions and even accents have been all but destroyed in just 25 years. The huge influx of people has displaced the existing population and crippled public services.

  52. Goodnight and God bless, Gentlefolk. I must abed go. ‘Tis late for me And I must be up betimes.

  53. Migration Watch
    @MigrationWatch
    The #Census2021 figures paint a stark picture of the way in which very high levels of immigration have – in a short period of time – changed large parts of Britain, without democratic consent.

    Euphegenia Rustle MkII
    @PetraHaynesz
    ·
    8h
    Replying to
    @MigrationWatch
    And that is the key phrase, “without democratic consent”. Centuries of regional community, culture, traditions and even accents have been all but destroyed in just 25 years. The huge influx of people has displaced the existing population and crippled public services.

    1. “God’s Hooks” never heard that one, Stormy. Is that a variation on “Odd’s Bodkins”?

        1. Thank you for today’s page, Geoff.

          Could be Gadzooks, my thoughts were more Tudor than American.

        1. Somebody else came up with that definition. Sorry, Stormy, I only really do just English, even if it’s Tudor, but it’s better than American.

  54. Good night, everyone. (Or should I say “Good morning”)? either way, I hope you all sleep well.

  55. Sir Cold957
    @cold957
    It’s amazing what you an do as a multi millionaire footballer when you take a step back from your BLM advisors and telling the taxpayer they should be feeding more school children because some parents can’t be bothered.

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