Tuesday 31 August: Remote consultations allow more patients to have contact with a GP

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659 thoughts on “Tuesday 31 August: Remote consultations allow more patients to have contact with a GP”

  1. Morning, all Y’all!
    Sunny day so far. Day’s high point: another trip to the tip, to dump a sack of garden clippings.
    What an exciting life, eh?

  2. Russian Sushi Chain Apologizes for Ad Featuring Black Man. 31 August 2021.

    The Krasnoyarsk-based YobiDoyobi chain’s Aug. 14 social media ad showed a photograph of a black man surrounded by three young women of Slavic appearance.

    While the business initially said it would not give in to pressure, it removed the advert on Saturday and published an apology on its social media accounts.

    “On behalf of the entire company, we want to apologize for offending the public with our photos. We have removed all the content that caused this commotion,” it said on Instagram.

    Morning everyone. I did spot a White Man on the BBC the other day!

    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/08/30/russian-sushi-chain-apologizes-for-ad-featuring-black-man-a74923

    1. Err… too early, Stormy. That’s tomorrow.
      :-))
      But I like the sentiment! Get in there first!

  6. The last US plane left Kabul shortly after midnight with no problems. Taliban celebrating with gunfire and fireworks. Biden to make a speech to the US nation in the next day or two. That should be interesting.

    1. Last Norwegian plane left yesterday. Their plan was to not trust anyone else, and sort it themselves. Seems to have worked out OK.

  7. MPs trying to rescue more than 7,000 people trapped in Afghanistan. 31 August 2021.

    Data collated from about 50 Labour MPs shows they are trying to help more than 7,000 people escape. The true tally being dealt with by Westminster’s 650 MPs is likely to be significantly higher.

    There must have been one interpreter for every squaddie!

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/aug/30/mps-trying-to-rescue-more-than-7000-people-trapped-in-afghanistan

    1. This is a daft problem.
      I am often asked to counter-sign passport applications by friends. These go out to and from my work email and I have to say how long I have known them and in what capacity.
      It would be perfectly feasible for people who have helped the British to say who they worked for and for that person to be contacted independently to verify the reference.

      1. I don’t think the truth of the situation matters. Just an allegation, hang ’em high from a US chopper, and the population is terrified into submission. It’s quicker than a media campaign.

    2. I think anyone who worked for the army is being targeted. There was an article in the Mail about a contractor who had helped build a road.

        5. Bloody hell! that’s a bit old!
          Pre-PTO and driven by a big chain from the trailer wheels by any chance?

  9. 88338314+ up ticks,
    Morning Each,

    Tuesday 31 August: Remote consultations allow more patients to have contact with a GP

    That is NOT even remotely funny, stop the DOVER campaign from bringing in MORE potential patients,paedophiles, troops, party number boosters.

    If a concern works reasonable well then dismantle it, that has been the pattern for years, foundation building blocks for the GREAT RESET.

    You want change,
    Do that by resigning party membership via YOUR MP saying you NO longer want to be in collusion with their political ilk / party.

    Then sort out mental health issues because they, having been neglected for so long has had odious consequences,clear example being, the electorate.

  10. The battle for Eastern Europe’s energy sector. 31 August 2021.

    Tens of thousands of panels at Ukraine’s huge Nikopol solar farm harvest the sun’s energy for nobody. In late 2019, the Canadian owners of the farm, TIU Canada, were informed that the nearby Nikopol Ferroalloy Plant, owned by the notorious Ukrainian oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky, would be disconnecting their farm from the power grid to make repairs. They were not aware that any such repairs were needed. Despite frantic protests the connection was severed – and a year and a half later, it has still not been restored.

    Kolomoisky’s tentacles extend deep into Ukraine’s economy and politics. He controls a faction of MPs without which the current coalition would collapse, as well as the country’s most lucrative energy distributor and, previously, some of its biggest banks. He is a controversial figure who in March 2021 was banned entry to the U.S.A over his ‘significant corruption’.

    This gives something of an insight into the reality of Ukraine as opposed to its MSM image as the victim of Russian hostility. Its President while berated for not standing up to Putin is unable to get the Solar Farm reconnected. Kolomoisky was a factor in getting Hunter Biden appointed to his position at Burisma Holdings which netted the First Family considerable sums.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-battle-for-eastern-europe-s-energy-sector

  15. I was just thinking earlier this morning while reading a TCW article, the reason why we are all being benighted with all this insane wokery and mental progressive politics? it is because it makes Shariah Law look sane and morally superior and people will be more likely to embrace that given the choice.

    1. 338314+ up ticks,
      Morning B3,
      Make paedophilia legal ? children have never been in such danger as in these last three decades, and within these decades given consent repeatedly via the polling booth protecting in a ” more of the same manner” the
      “party”

      The instruction manual lies between the dispatch boxes
      NOT to be touched by Non believers, and there is halal
      dumplings / porridge on the parliamentary canteen menu
      gives one a clue to what is planned.

      Sad thing is it is rhetorically ponced up in the lab/lib/con coalition manifesto’s, then it will be accepted
      for “the good of the party”

      There surely ain’t no left / right in politics anymore just
      Right / Wrong.

    1. Why a new digital currency? What’s wrong with the AUS$ and bank transfers, or credit cards, you know, like things are now? Swipe or tap. Works fine.

      1. To kill the black economy and garner more taxes to waste.
        Then to control what you can and cannot buy.

        1. And eventually, if you do not have the Covid “vaccinations”, to control your money. And/or refuse you access to it.

          Morning all.

          3. Sorry Horace.

            Oberst started by saying “Why a new digital currency? What’s wrong with the AUS$ and bank transfers, or credit cards, you know, like things are now? Swipe or tap. Works fine.”

            Sosraboc: “To kill the black economy and garner more taxes to waste.
            Then to control what you can and cannot buy”. I replied to sosraboc, continuing his/her line of thought,

            “And eventually, if you do not have the Covid “vaccinations”, to control your money. And/or refuse you access to it”.

            OK now?

    4. She openly mentions China as a role model. Clearly, they already own Australia.

      Needless to say, there is no evidence to support the idea that cash transmits disease, or we would see supermarket cashiers keeling over every winter. My son worked in McDonalds last year, they handled cash all the time and nobody got covid.

    5. Has anyone noticed that both NZ and parts of OZ have been taken over and run by batty women?

      It used to be said, let the world be run by women and you will have peace (or was that pieces?)

  17. Morning all

    SIR – As a recently retired GP, I note with interest the report (August 30) on GP income of £100 per hour (gross, before expenses), as well as that on Pimlico Plumbers’ rates starting at £120 per hour, with a realistic take-home of £150,000 per year (August 30). Very few GPs earn that sort of money. As a society we must learn to value our NHS professionals.

    Working at home means frequent and fast consultations by phone or video, always aware of the consequences of a wrong decision and always able to ask the patient to attend a face-to-face where indicated. I used to call in about 40 per cent of the people whom I consulted online or by phone. By remote consultation, I was able to talk to far more patients than a face-to-face system alone would allow.

    In an ideal world, we would have many more GPs and a system funded to allow walk-in open surgeries with no barriers whatever. Inspection of the statistics for full-time equivalent GPs in the last 10 years, and appreciation of the much more complex job done now in general practice, will explain access difficulties. Most GPs want to be able to see and examine their patients. It is the Government’s job to create an environment that makes this possible.

    Dr Peter Swinyard

    Past chairman, The Family Doctor Association

    Swindon, Wiltshire

    SIR – It is a national scandal that only 11 per cent of new medical graduates intend to work full time, when it costs over £1 million to produce each one of them (Letters, August 30).

    It would be interesting to carry out a similar survey among foreign medical graduates to compare their outlook on doctoring. Most of the latter (and their families) would have spent a considerable amount of time and money and made sacrifices to achieve their goal. It may well be that it is only our home graduates who have the luxury of treating medicine as a job and not a full-time vocation.

    Prasad Palimar FRCS

    Warrington, Cheshire

    SIR – Medicine is, or should be, a vocation. My grammar school headmistress coached me in school hours in Latin as I wanted to go to Oxbridge to study medicine and Latin was a requirement at that time.

    She asked me why I wanted to be a doctor and my reply surprised her. I told her I wanted to live to work and not just work to live.

    I became a medical student in my home city. I had three siblings and my parents explained that they could not afford the cost of me living away from home. I worked evenings and weekends to help family finances. After qualifying I worked full time for 40 years and had three children, one of whom is a GP, another a midwife.

    The selection criteria for medical students should not simply be based on A-level grades. For some, the motivation is mainly money. Doctors require intelligence and knowledge to arrive at an accurate diagnosis, but also a need to care.

    Dr Rhoda Pippen

    Cardiff

    1. Perhaps we should all fill in one these online forms, so beloved by the NHS doctors, every day saying there’s nothing wrong with me but could you test me for everything. Send one every day until they get the message.

    2. Bravo, Dr Pippen, well said! A classmate of mine wanted to become a doctor but was rejected by Edinburgh University. He became a vet. However he still wanted to be a doctor. He is now Professor of Medicine in the Division of Gastroenterology and Hepatology at a medical university in the USA He earned his PhD in Physiology and Biophysics.

  18. Morning again

    SIR – Over 60 years ago, as a serving Royal Air Force officer in Arabia, I worked with a variety of local units raised under the Raj: Aden Protectorate Levies, Federal National Guard, the Hadhrami Bedouin Legion, and Trucial Oman Scouts – then all under British command, reminiscent of tales by P C Wren, now long fallen into history.

    It would be a continuation of our military tradition if the Afghan special forces rescued from Kabul (report, August 30) could be formed into Her Majesty’s Afghan Rangers, to serve alongside their British and Gurkha comrades.

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    Anthony McLauchlan

    Piltdown, East Sussex

    2. Alas, as I am losing my mental capacity and fail to think anything through. I have failed to notice that the military units I mention never set foot in the UK, or outside their own countries. I have not recognised that the “Afghan special forces” ran away in the face of an armed coup. I do take some satisfaction. in having my letter setting out this dangerously stupid notion (copied from some daft newspaper article), published in the woke Press.”

      Good mention of PC Wren stories, though. I read them 60 years ago when you were doing the real thing. Hats Off! for that, sir.

  19. Rip-off Covid tests

    SIR – The Government’s list of organisations that provide Covid tests for travellers contains companies which are not qualified and often do not meet the deadlines or prices advertised (“Travellers still hit by ‘rip-off’ Covid tests”, report, August 29). This means families incur high extra holiday costs and miss flights.

    The Government says it is acting to resolve this problem, but not soon enough. Medical experts, including Sage scientists, are recommending that testing should remain a fixture of travel for many months, perhaps even until Covid is manageable, like flu.

    Since huge profits are made by the companies offering tests, there must be official control of accreditation and realistic prices if testing continues, and an explanation of why it’s needed.

    Keith Taylor

    Hereford

    SIR – We have family living in South Korea, which is on the amber list.

    They will soon be vaccinated with either the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine, which are both used here in Britain. Currently Britain only recognises EU or American administered vaccines, thereby discriminating against those who have been vaccinated elsewhere.

    Does the Government have a plan to change this so families from outside the EU and America can be reunited at Christmas without having to quarantine in a hotel?

    Shaun McClure

    Camberley, Surrey

  20. Rip-off Covid tests

    SIR – The Government’s list of organisations that provide Covid tests for travellers contains companies which are not qualified and often do not meet the deadlines or prices advertised (“Travellers still hit by ‘rip-off’ Covid tests”, report, August 29). This means families incur high extra holiday costs and miss flights.

    The Government says it is acting to resolve this problem, but not soon enough. Medical experts, including Sage scientists, are recommending that testing should remain a fixture of travel for many months, perhaps even until Covid is manageable, like flu.

    Since huge profits are made by the companies offering tests, there must be official control of accreditation and realistic prices if testing continues, and an explanation of why it’s needed.

    Keith Taylor

    Hereford

    SIR – We have family living in South Korea, which is on the amber list.

    They will soon be vaccinated with either the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine, which are both used here in Britain. Currently Britain only recognises EU or American administered vaccines, thereby discriminating against those who have been vaccinated elsewhere.

    Does the Government have a plan to change this so families from outside the EU and America can be reunited at Christmas without having to quarantine in a hotel?

    Shaun McClure

    Camberley, Surrey

  21. BTL on the Suzanne Moore Tranny Article

    “I’ve had it with mass immigration. I’ve had it with
    multiculturalism. I’ve had it with identity politics. I’ve had it with Woke cancel
    culture. I’ve had it with gender absurdities.

    I want my country and culture back!!

    I’ve had it with the Tories. I’ve had it with Labour.

    God almighty, I’m sick of having rubbish for breakfast,
    lunch and dinner courtesy of the BBC.

    The world is a dangerous place and we in the west are
    behaving like small fish in a big pool.

    We need to wake up.”
    So say us all matey,now tell us how??

    1. BTL Comments:-

      Robert Spowart
      31 Aug 2021 9:10AM
      This is all planed as part of the Cultural Marxist application of Critical Theory.

      To weaken a society one must criticise EVERY aspect of it.

      Keep up the attacks and if you can not find a grievance to make use of, create one.

      Refuse to acknowledge any part of that Society or its history as being good or worth saving.

      If you can not find a grievance, create one.

      If that Society gives you concessions, begrudge accepting them, but rather claim they are insufficient and that they prove you were right.

      Use them as a basis for demanding more concessions.

      Use your grievances as a means of gaining influence, demand places on bodies set up to investigate them and join up with fellow thinkers already within the Establishment to push for more and more concessions to weaken the grip of Conservatives on the reins of power.

      By these means the Cultural Marxists hope to weaken Western Society and bring about the creation of the Marxist Society they desire.

      And:-
      Bugger it’s been deleted!

      If a person’s born with b****ks they’re a bloke,
      If a person’s born with b****ks they’re a bloke,
      If a person’s born with b****ks,
      Though they call him Betty Swollocks,
      If a person’s born with b****ks they’re a bloke!

  22. SIR – On a recent train journey from Waterloo, I encountered two very excited children, aged about four and five, sitting with their parents and clutching theatre programmes, hardly able to contain themselves. I inquired: “Did you have a good time?” “Yes,” answered the youngest child, “Daddy got on the wrong train!”

    Paul French

    Andover, Hampshire

  24. Practising Your Art

    There was a world-famous painter who, in the prime of her career, started losing her eyesight. Fearful that she might lose her life as a painter, she went to see the best eye surgeon in the world. After several weeks of delicate surgery and therapy, her eyesight was restored.

    The painter was so grateful that she decided to show her gratitude by repainting the doctor’s office. Part of her work included painting a gigantic eye on one wall. When she had finished her work, she held a press conference to unveil her latest work of art: the doctor’s office.

    During the press conference, one reporter noticed the eye on the wall, and asked the doctor, ‘What was your first reaction upon seeing your newly painted office, especially that large eye on the wall?’

    To this, the eye doctor responded, “I said to myself ‘Thank the Lord, I’m not a gynaecologist.’“

    2. Would life be any better for anyone trying to escape Islamic oppression in any of those countries?

    3. Being neighbours with the bloodthirsty blighters perhaps gives them good reason not to want any of them in their respective countries.

  26. Yo All

    I will be really glad when Convidmania is over and the Daily Tellylaff Letters page returns to normal

    I am sick (sarc) and tired that 25%+ published letters are the biased, (in my opinion) views of GPs

    Come back Cynthia Harrold-Eagles, all is forgiven

    PS. It is about time Mr T sent a letter about G&P

  27. Yo All

    I will be really glad when Convidmania is over and the Daily Tellylaff Letters page returns to normal

    I am sick (sarc) and tired that 25%+ published letters are the biased, (in my opinion) views of GPs

    Come back Cynthia Harrold-Eagles, all is forgiven

    PS. It is about time Mr T sent a letter about G&P

  28. Good morning from a dull and damp Derbyshire.
    9°C in the yard and a light rain at the moment.

    1. “We’re terribly sorry that we destroyed cash as a medium of exchange and that everyone now has no money, but we can now build back fairer, greener and you will all own nothing.YOU WILL BE HAPPY”

      “We’re also terribly sorry that we destroyed fossil fuel and nuclear for power generation, but we can now build back fairer, greener and you will all be going nowhere because electric transport is impossible.YOU WILL BE HAPPY”

      “We’re also terribly sorry that we destroyed your countries for the sake of diversity and that survival of the fittest has returned with a vengeance, but we can now build back fairer, greener and you will return to the law of the jungle. YOUWILL BE HAPPY”

      1. Look after your future:

        Buy shares in OGG(A?)’s Stone Wheel Company, c/o The Cave Mendip Hills

        1. Quite openly, and the Davos crew fawn on him like the minions do to Blofeld in a James Bond film

  31. Richard Littlejohn on political reality C21 style:

    “If, 14 years ago, I’d filed a column — even in jest — about the Taliban promising to tackle terrorism and climate change, the editor would have concluded that I’d gone too far this time, even by my own miserable standards, and would have checked me in to the Priory for a drying out session.

    Yet today, this far-fetched PR guff is reported as gospel.

    Soon we’ll be hearing about the Taliban’s enlightened plans for a congestion charge, bike lanes and Low Traffic Neighbourhoods in Kabul.

    Meet the Green Taliban, twinned with Extinction Rebellion. We’ll be asked to believe that they only closed the airport to cut greenhouse gases, not stop anyone escaping.

    Next thing you know they’ll be drumming and dancing and chaining themselves to a giant pink yacht outside the abandoned American Embassy.

    Boris talks a good game — perhaps that should be Great Game — but without leverage he’s just another Dr Dolittle.

    I’m surprised he hasn’t already invited the Taliban to take part in the upcoming COP26 climate summit in Scotland. I can just see him posing for photos with Wee Burney, Sleepy Joe Biden and one of the mad mullahs.

    After all, in the war on global warming the British Government has already taken its lead from Kabul and is hell-bent on dragging our economy back to the Stone Age.

    So the Afghans could be considered trailblazers by the environmentalists. Never mind ISIS-K, stand by for ISIS-XR.

    The way things are going it can only be a matter of time before the Taliban are nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9941149/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-Talk-Taliban-Dont-waste-breath.html

    1. 338314+ up ticks,
      Morning Anne,
      If one listens quietly then one can hear the sound of tramping boots as a NEW regiment joins the ranks.

      Their remit is to guard the parliamentary
      personnel & grounds.

  33. OT – last night we watched (on recording) a prog on PBS America called “Terror” about the war for independence in Algeria.

    Chilling but good. Worth seeing if it is on again.

  34. No comments allowed on Biden trying to deflect blame onto us: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/08/30/underlying-current-blame-kabul-airport-suicide-attack-came-us/

    FFS closing the gates would stop the whole process, leaving the clock ticking and leaving them and us sitting around at Kabul airport achieving absolutely nothing, running scared of terrorists. What a metaphor that would have been: sitting around in a relatively safe cocoon whilst desperate Afghanis suffer. For this and a thousand other things, it’s no wonder so many Afghanis hate the Americans.

    Mind you, with our similar preachy attitudes and seemingly obsessed with saving a few dogs and cats over humans, I don’t think we have much to crow over beyond the selfless behaviour and sacrifices of our Services.

    1. I’d make a small wager that the dogs and cats won’t be plotting to join forces with fellow co-religionists to blow us up.

  35. E-mailed the surgery this morning at 8.45. They have just rung. Apptmt with nurse at 11.10. Can’t complain.

  36. DM Headline story:

    Trump tells the US to invade and ‘bomb the hell’ out of Afghanistan again if the Taliban doesn’t return billions in US weapons and equipment
    Trump said that all US weaponry must be returned, and if not ‘we should go in with unequivocal force and get it’
    ‘Nobody ever thought such stupidity, as this feeble-brained withdrawal, was possible!’ Trump said of Biden’s handling of the withdrawal

    Will Islam take over the world without the West showing any resistance at all?

    1. Pretty pointless of Trump to say that now. I would have thought the military could have planned better.

    2. I thought I had read that Demented Biden had ordered the USAF to destroy all the kit (or as much of it as possible).

      1. If you watched RT news they showed aircraft and military transport left in apparently serviceable condition, including a C-130.

    3. As it’s a standard thing to do when retreating, deny the enemy use of the equipment left behind, you wreck it. I can only conclude, as all the gear including functioning attack helicopters were abandoned in an operational state, that this was deliberate – maybe as an agreement with the Taliban for a peaceful withdrawal?

      1. Perhaps the deal is that the Taliban will use the kit to attack and destroy Pakistan….

        1. Why would the Taliban want to destroy the place that has sheltered them for the last 20 years. Provided Madrassas to teach their children how to be good fighters for the cause. Hid them. Fed them. Armed them.

          Pakistan has always been our enemy. Rapists and murderers the lot of them.

          2. Now I see the cunning plan.

            1. Leave valuable military equipment behind.
            2. Stand back and watch while the Taliban attacks everyone in the region, because that’s what they do.

            It’s got to be either Iran or Pakistan, my money is in Iran because they’ve got fewer nukes.

    4. 338314+ up ticks,
      Morning R,
      The UK section of the world is well on the way in regards to the takeover with the peoples consent via the polling booth.

      The three monkeys, permanent residence of the polling booth see NO danger in the islamic ideology supporters & have a strong grip of the electorate.

      This can be seen also via having halal dumplings on the parliamentary canteen menu.

    1. I can only assume that the completely odious Gove has material with which to blackmail most of the people in the cabinet otherwise he would be sacked immediately

      1. He’s the lab rat; look everyone, I went into a nightclub unmasked and caught the lurgy. Vaccine passports now!

    2. Having seen the terror displayed by Gus on his first day here – among kind and caring people who were trying to help him settle – I shudder to think of what that little animal suffered. The “soldiers” ought to be identifiable and then prosecuted.

      1. I’m pretty sure I don’t want to watch that video. Does it involve cruelty to the wee dog?

          1. Thanks. I don’t want to see shit like that. I’m totally fed up with nastiness, violence and unpleasantness.

        3. Fortunately I can’t play Twitter videos on my laptop. I tend to avoid them on the phone as well.

    3. That is the most disgusting thing I’ve seen. I hope his ‘chums’ tear him to pieces.

  39. Mail to a Conservative MP’s blog……

    https://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2021/08/31/what-for-nato-and-the-west-now/

    Biden wasn’t cheated into the “presidency” to be strong..

    Biden was cheated into the “presidency” to prevent the prosecution of corruption on a massive scale.

    The problem with corruption is that it destroys nations.. and those who ignore it are to blame and carry the responsibility for it’s consequences.

    So the credulous, the stupid, the weak and the cowardly bear the responsibility for the collapse of the US.. and the UK.

    The unpalatable truth of course is too awful for such people to admit.

    Isn’t it, Mr Redwood ?

    Polly

      2. Talking publicly about it and asking questions would be a start. He’s now got a ton of evidence so there’s no excuse for doing nothing.

        A full exposé in the Mail on Sunday would bring the Lab Lib CON roof down, so bring it on.

        To be fair to Mr Redwood, he didn’t know that Tony Blair met with George Soros in New York in April 1996 which is crucial to the whole story.

        Therefore, he couldn’t see that the cut price 750 government buildings sale of 2000 loaded up with twenty year leaseback contracts to enhance the capital value was to Blair’s new billionaire friend.

        The same applies to the sale of 31% of QinetiQ in 2003. He didn’t know George Soros was the star client of the Washington private equity fund which bought it and which employed John Major in a senior European position from 1998. Soros had $100,000,000 invested in the fund from 1994 which he probably won from Major in 1992.

        That’s before we look at successive UK PMs copying Soros’ progressive globalist policies which include migration, the Climate Change Act and the Marriage Act.

        There’s so much more, and, imho, all of it needs to be dug up and put on public display.

        Nobody is better placed to do it than Lady Thatcher enthusiast, Mr Redwood. It remains to be seen if he will..

        1. He’s still a backbench MP, presumably drawing his full salary. Maybe he will write his expose after he retires……….or maybe not.

    1. The pigeons should go straight for the target. Forget the dishes and crap on Musk instead.

    1. Most BTL comments are from people who are understandably annoyed – I liked this one – “A covid cure at last. Becoming an eco warrior tree hugger is twice as effective as two jabs and a booster“

  42. The teaching unions are still stirring it up:

    Schools will need to reintroduce tougher Covid measures in weeks, warn unions

    Families warned to expect significant disruption to learning by end of September because of rise in virus cases

    Hundreds of schools will be forced to reintroduce tougher Covid measures within weeks, teaching unions claimed as pupils begin to return to the classroom…

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/08/30/schools-will-need-reintroduce-tougher-covid-measures-weeks-warn/

    2. With reports of typical Afghan families arriving here having many more children than us, where are all those children going to go to school? Will it be translators with every single one? Who pays – silly question. Will all school food be turned to halal, so not to offend our replacements, with NO choice for us? And when this lot start breeding their own large families, getting large special housing to suit – the end hurtles towards us. Glad my death will precede that point.

  43. Who knows what the public think? Who trusts opinion polls? The public ‘thinks’ that Boris had a good pandemic.

    Afghanistan has united MPs across parties – a move which could spell disaster for the Tories at the polls

    Should the military disaster be fresh in the minds of the electorate come the next general election, it could serve to undo much of the ground Boris Johnson has made

    It is blatantly obvious that the government’s bungled withdrawal from Afghanistan has upset MPs from across the House of Commons. Whilst this may seem to only reflect the frustration in Westminster, unifying polar opposites of the political spectrum could prove disastrous for the Tories at the polls…

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/afghanistan-boris-johnson-mps-coalition-polls-tories-b1908710.html

    1. Bojo had a good pandemic? Ha!

      On the other hand, the Afghanistan debacle can be placed fairly and squarely at the feet of the USA – Biden in particular. Any blame attaching to Johnson will be dwarfed by the culpability of Biden.

      1. Which will soon be forgotten by the great unwashed in America – because some new black martyr will be found to take up miles of newsprint for many months. Son of Floyd, perhaps….

    2. Pity the MPs don’t get “upset” about uncontolled mass immigration, the handling of covid etc etc

    4. Once the American cut and ran, so typical of them by the way, I don’t see what our “government” could have done. I find it impossible to blame them save in one respect that I mentioned a couple of days ago. Scrimping and saving on out military has been an ongoing disgrace since it leaves us vulnerable if the USA withdraws its skirt for us to hide behind. And that is exactly what has happened. We are, supposedly, the fifth richest nation in the world. But to quote: “China, Saudi Arabia, India, France and Russia, and Germany. In terms of military spending as a share of GDP, the UK was behind ten other countries in 2019, especially Saudi Arabia which spent 8 percent of it’s GDP on defense.” https://www.statista.com/statistics/298490/defense-spending-united-kingdom-uk/. That is a disgrace and a betrayal for our country.

  44. Australian imports of ivermectin increase tenfold, prompting warning from TGA
    The drug, used to deworm livestock, has been touted among rightwing media as a Covid treatment, prompting the US FDA to tweet ‘You are not a cow’

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/30/australian-imports-of-ivermectin-increase-10-fold-prompting-warning-from-tga

    Some Australians are self-medicating with ivermectin, undoubtedly very risky yet hardly surprising. Of course, this being the Guardian, this line was to be expected:

    As a consequence of the attention rightwing politicians and media pundits are giving the drug in the United States, the call for the drug to be used for Covid treatment has also been adopted in Australia by their local counterparts.

    Sky News recently received a one-week ban from posting on its YouTube page for videos advocating for the use of experimental and unproven Covid-19 treatments such as ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.

    The Sky News videos I have seen on the subject have urged the government to investigate the use of the drugs, not the people to take them recklessly.

    1. It’s not unproven as a covid treatment and it is used for human consumption. They keep repeating the same lies.
      Racist in this case too – are they suggesting that India gave their people livestock worming tablets?

        1. Our govt is administering mass immigration of dangerous people on us without any safety checks on what happens to us.

          1. 338314+ up ticks,
            Morning W,
            By calling them “our government” gives
            the political overseers undeserved credibility.

            Although your post is fact explaining their treacherous actions.

            My personal view, ogga1.

        2. It was administered safely to millions of people in India, and saved so many lives in the states that used it, that there is now a court case ongoing in India against the WHO bod who advised them not to use Ivermectin.

          1. Quite, but I don’t suppose Indians were buying it from the local farm stores!

          3. Amazon sell the animal version but a friend obtained the safe for humans type directly from an Indian supplier. There isn’t any real confusion as to which is which. Anyone canny enough not to believe the propaganda knows what they’re buying.

  46. Re-posted from last evening:

    Beware, Boris: Britain is hurtling towards a winter of discontent

    Soaring inflation, spiralling public debt and stroppy trade unions have created the perfect storm

    If this were to produce another ‘Thatcher Type’ government, it might just be the answer our prayers. Cometh the hour, cometh the man (or woman). Where the hell, are you?

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/08/30/beware-boris-britain-hurtling-towards-winter-discontent/

    2. 338314+ up ticks,
      Morning NtN,
      The majority have been searching for a Thatcher replacement since 28 November 1990 their futile search
      has shown up the tory (ino) party for what it truly is and what we are suffering is the fallout of a very successful
      campaign of orchestrated treachery.

      “Where the hell, are you?” maybe in a tory ( ino) closet,
      and the way the tory (ino) cartel are shaping will reveal its self as “call me big mo” first down on two knees and face East …….

      Reset gathering pace.

        2. 338314+ up ticks,
          Afternoon von,
          Won’t work ( woke) could be a ploy, the tory’s
          ( ino) have a pretendee opposition ALL in – house
          some even convincing, but ALL steeped in treachery.

    3. “Thatcher Type” government relies on there being a 10-year bonanza of cheap energy coming on stream, the legacy of Empire to be sold off, and a lot of redundancy that can be cut back to the bone and beyond.

      That spare money has been frittered away on bonuses, drug parties, SUVs and yachts in tax havens. Any fat has long been cut away, Blair got to work on the muscle and Osborne got to work on the bone. Anything left of any value has been flogged off cheap to the Chinese and the Americans.

      Even if a National Saviour did somehow break through our corrupt and rotten electoral system, just what would he or she have to work with?

      1. The Thatcher principle that you cannot spend what you haven’t got (earned).

        If that means massive cuts to benefits and deportation of every illegal immigrant, so be it.

        1. deportation of every illegal immigrant, – todays laugh. Thanks. Love the idea, but NEVER going to happen

    4. NtN, the DT forgot the next unwarranted lockdown, the vaccine passes, the school closures etc.

      The PTB around much of the World are in panic mode as people slowly wake up to what is really happening: hence the PTB’s doubling down on inoculating everyone as quickly as possible, including the children. In the USA they are looking to force the jab on 5 -11 yo children. That idea will soon arrive here as Johnson capitulates to those running this shit-show. As for a strong person appearing from within the ranks of the current parties I think that is a forlorn hope as the majority are untrustworthy and some others look to be controlled opposition. Only the people can stop this by direct action.

      1. I wish I could share your view that the plebs are waking up. I really don’t think the majority are.

        They have fallen for Project Fear, and now believe in it….

        1. Went into Stroud on Saturday – first time for months – the place was buzzing, market, shops, lots of people around. About 20% were still wearing masks out in the street – some of them serious looking gas-mask sort. There’s not much hope for people like that.

    5. Maggie was a pretty indifferent Education Secretary.
      I don’t think Williamson will be the answer, but maybe there is someone in the lower ranks, who Johnson perceives as being no threat to him.

      1. I think she was hogtied on a few issues, not least Comprehensive Schools, by various bit of legislation left over by Labour and Heath’s unwillingness to repeal them.

  47. On radio earlier – The 20k we are settling will be onTOP of the 10k already evacuated – and how many after that? Everyone who decides living here is a far better choice than in a 3rd world Islamic ****hole? All they have to do after getting here is to . . .continue turning it into the 3rd world Islamic ****hole that those already here are doing a great job of.

  48. Well, well. Back from the GPs. Saw the nurse I wanted to see. Very reassuring about my small problem. A lot of patients in the various waiting rooms. And, believe it or not, DOCTORS seeing people face to face.

    Apart from the face nappies – much as it used to be.

    1. I meant to ask you, Bill – do you and the MR have any recipes for dealing with tomatoes? We’re eating quite a lot of them but what is the best way to store them? Freezing? making soups? What do you do with yours?

      1. If i may butt in….I sun dry mine in the oven and then put them in a freezer bag. If you flatten the bag and lay them flat you can easily break off what you need as and when.

        1. Ok – do you cut them open to dry them? On trays in a very low oven? You don’t put them in olive oil? Just freeze them?

          1. I cut the larger ones in half but just leave cherry tomatoes as they are. As they are going in the freezer they need very little oil. Plenty of recipes on the Net.

          2. Thanks Phizzee and Sos – all suggestions saved along with the instructions from the MR.

          3. We halve them, clear the seeds and add a little salt before oven or sun drying.
            It’s hot enough here to dry them on trays but the oven is more reliable.
            Don’t let them get too dry, they should be plump not dessicated and crisp.

            Having dried them in the oven, cram as many as you can into clean jars that have reliable lid seals.

            Pour olive oil over them slowly, until the jars are full and any air bubbles have stopped.

            They keep for ages and are a superb cooking ingredient. The last of the oil can also be used to cook with.

          4. So what you’re saying is (© Cathy Newman) that the tomatoes can be either oven-dried or sun-dried but not both at the same time.

        4. Your oven has a built in sun Phil? I’m impressed.
          I make do with a little light in mine

        1. We have been picking about twenty pounds of tomatoes a day and the boss has been in a tizzy about what to do with them. Yesterday she came home from the supermarket with a twenty five pound box of tomatoes – “they were only ten dollars, I can make soup with them”.

          I give up on that logic.

          2. I may well ask. Telling her would result in tomato spattered walls, assuming that I could duck fast enough that is.

          3. Cut into quarters, place on a tray, salt, then cook in the oven at 107ºC [225ºF, Gas Mk ¼] for 5–6 hours to “sun-dry” them, then keep them in a jar covered with olive oil.

          4. Plenty to try that on. Soup, salsa, pasta sauce, etc
            etc and of course plain frozen. A batch of sun dried will complete the set.

          2. That is why i use the freezer. I have jars everywhere with all types of produce.

            I have one big one of golden sultanas that i’m soaking in rum for a bread and butter pud.

          2. Well it is a hard life, really. I am attempting to catch up with many areas of interest which I have neglected for several decades, in terms of gardening, watching films or TV series i have missed over the years, keeping my house reasonably clean and tidy, de-cluttering, etc. etc.

  51. To Anyone Who Has Ever Organised A Holiday Rota; please feel free to bang your head on your desk.

    “The sad truth is that the dysfunctionality goes much deeper than the Foreign Secretary’s personal failures, serious though they are. For it has emerged that he wasn’t the only important person on holiday when he should have been at his desk. Sir Philip Barton, Permanent Under-Secretary at the Foreign Office and its most senior official, was also reportedly on annual leave.

    Incredibly, the Home Office Permanent Secretary, Matthew Rycroft, and David Williams, Permanent Secretary at the Ministry of Defence, are said to have been absent, too, as Afghanistan disintegrated.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9941685/STEPHEN-GLOVER-damning-questions-MPs-ask-Minister-failed-stage.html

    1. You can just imagine the scramble to book holidays in Timbuctu once they realised that the shiite was going to hit the fan in that couple of weeks.

      1. I can remember when, about 40 years ago, Thomson Holidays pioneered trips to The Gambia. One season the return flights were via Timbuktu. There was a scramble for bookings, just to get the passport stamp, but most places were already taken up by staff before the brochure came out.

          1. One African place I never want to see again is Lusaka. We were there for the last few days of our pan-African honeymoon; I hated every minute. The one good thing was the non-stop daylight flight home in a brand-new, empty 707 of Zambian Airways.

    1. Er … excuse me if I’m being naïve, but wasn’t that silly-looking llama bred for meat in the first place?

      1. Alpacas also provide wool. Have you eaten llama meat? I have; it was very tough.

      3. No, there is no market for the meat in the UK. I asked a woman from the alpaca society about that once.

        1. So, can we take it that the increasing numbers of alpacas/llamas we see in our fields are part of a rewilding programme?

          2. See my post of an hour ago just below. Some of the herds are rather large to be a hobby.

          4. It is called being a wife. They house-train the livestock, even to the point where they can be entered in shows. Quite a risky business really. You can lose months of hard work if the creature decides that it prefers the training methods of another wife.

          6. They are very popular apparently for ‘trekking’ where people pay to take the animals for a walk.

          7. I’ve never seen that. I drive past a field, which often has 50 or more llamas in it, on my way to W/rose, but never a human in site.

      2. 338314+ up ticks,
        Afternoon Bob,
        I mean who in their right mind would support / vote for a mass uncontrolled immigration party ?

    4. Hope the new homes all have heat pumps. And chargers for the electric cars…(sarc)

      1. If they don’t have chargers for electric cars, that will rather give the game away!

  55. Police in Scotland, and presumably from the farthest reaches of the UK as well, are preparing for war, erm, for dealing with, erm for gently controlling peaceful protestors at COP26. There are just over 17,000* police officers in Scotland, so nearly two-thirds of them will be in action at COP26. There will certainly be lots of gunmen around from the Met, the CIA, and the personal bodyguards from the banana republics etc.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58394326

    *Depends on your source. The Quarterly Stats are incomprehensible, probably deliberately so.
    https://www.scotland.police.uk/about-us/police-scotland/police-scotland-officer-numbers/

    1. The protesters will be all greeniacs, so the police will be very lenient with them. Probably dancing.

    3. Bloody ‘ell..Finland has 7300 police for the same-size population and much bigger landmass!

      1. And how politically divided, diverse, drug addled, and entrenched with poverty is Finland?

        1. I’m sure the information you seek is “out there” but it does have its moments.
          It is not Paradise but its the best place i’ve ever lived…by a long way.

          1. When did you last visit the UK let alone live there?
            Every time I return it seems worse than the last, when/if we get back again I’m very confident the decline will have continued apace.

          4. I have 2 sons..they have my address and an open invitation to visit.
            My ashes will return….to the rough on the right of the 3rd fairway at Thorpe Wood golf course.
            I know it so well.

          5. I wondered, so looked it up. It’s surprising about golf in Finland. I would have thought the climate fairly unconducive.

          6. When there’s no snow, there’s oodles of daylight. Just golf late into the evening to make up.

          7. The local course is open for about 7 months per year but the greens are “very average”
            I don’t play now.I gave everything away to a 15 year old at the club.

          8. During the 16 years I lived in Germany, I would return to Blighty twice a year for a week’s holiday. I thought I was keeping abreast of things, but when I finally returned, after another 3 years in Sweden, I was staggered by the culture-shock.

          9. I suspect that it’s the drip-feeding that is stopping the general population realising quite how much the place is deteriorating. If those in power were forced to live in isolation for three years and then released they would not be quite so keen on the welcome all-comers, green, woke policies.

          10. Have just been for a few things from the shop. Returning I saw what must be our latest “arrival”. The PC correct colour, head staring at phone, her 2 kids walking yards behind her staring at everything ( I assume they are REALLY new.) She clearly didn’t have a clue if those 2 kids were behind her or not. Oh what joy.

          13. Very true. It’s a bit like living in a place for a number of years & not really noticing the gradual changes. Move away for 5 years & go back for a visit, & wow! All the new buildings replacing old favourites, new one-way system, pedestrian precincts, etc. etc. All quite overwhelming.

          14. Last lived in the UK 1998, last visit Christmas 2019.
            It’s not home, that’s for sure.

        2. Very homogenious (sic) population. Makes for peace and general contentment, but don’t say so too loud.

  56. Afternoon all, just in time before we go out for a family lunch to celebrate Our 47th wedding anniversary.
    If I remember correctly the weather was a lot better on the Saturday as I set off in my MGB GT sunroof open, to the Hertfordshire pub opposite the church to meet my mates for my final ‘single’ pint.

    3. Snap! just over 43 years ago, I drove my MGB GT (dark British Racing Green) to, not the church, but the reception venue – there to reclaim it after the evening do. I don’t think I had my sunroof open, as it was a cool overcast day in June.

      I loved that car, but it was a money-pit.

      1. The pub I was in was the Green Dragon at London Colney it’s on the banks of the river Colne. The cottage opposite was at the time owned and lived in by Hi Di Hi Star Ruth and husband Phillip Madoc. Your name vill also go on ze list. Dads Army.
        The large country Pub/Hotel The Waggon and Horses where we had the reception is now beneath the M25 junction 22.

    6. When I drove my MG Midget to start our honeymoon, I needed the top well and truly closed!

  57. I rate this economist very highly:

    Cut the number of graduates in half to give our economy the lift it needs
    Parents and employers are rating university too highly – many professionals could thrive without degrees

    ROGER BOOTLE
    29 August 2021 • 7:00pm
    Roger Bootle
    Unsurprisingly, governments are regularly searching for ways to increase productivity and prosperity – and hence tax revenue. But achieving real results is far from easy. Accordingly, they typically focus on all sorts of gimmicky things, often accompanied by intoxicating buzzwords, without much genuine hope of delivering serious benefits. None more so than the current Government. Think HS2; think “levelling up”.

    Yet there is an area where government could plausibly make a huge difference to productive potential but where current efforts are nonexistent to fundamentally misguided. I refer to our system of tertiary education. But I am going to shock you. The route to real economic advance from educational reform is probably the exact opposite of what you expect.

    For decades now, the mantra has been that we can boost GDP by getting a higher proportion of the population into tertiary education. As evidence in support of this prospect, it has been widely argued that because, on average, people with degrees earn more than people without them, if we equipped more people with degrees then not only would their incomes and living standards rise but GDP would rise as well.

    This is one of the most egregious pieces of erroneous economic reasoning that I have ever encountered. Just because graduates on average earn more than non-graduates this in no way means that bedecking more people with degrees will increase their productivity and worth in the labour force.

    A good deal of what the education system does is about segregating the “winners” from the “losers”, even though there may be no intrinsic merit in mastering the knowledge or skills that make you a “winner”. In other words, its activity is purely “distributive” rather than “creative”. But even if much of this educational activity is effectively useless, it is far from being economically neutral because it takes up so many resources.

    So here is my big idea to boost the GDP of this country: radically reduce the size of the university sector and with it the proportion of young people taking degrees. How radical? Cutting it in half would be a good start.

    This would boost economic performance in several ways. First, it would increase the available labour supply as young people currently absorbed by universities would be released into the world of work.

    And if you think that this would be a problem because there wouldn’t be enough jobs then I suggest that you make yourself an exception to my general discouragement of more education and promptly enrol yourself on a course that teaches Economics 101.

    Second, commensurate with lower student numbers, there would be a release of considerable resources involved in providing for them – a cull of lecturers and professors, buildings and all facilities in universities. Third, there would be a release of residential property currently occupied some of the year by students close to the location of their universities.

    Such changes would have a clear financial result. Students themselves would be less burdened by debt, and the state would save the large amount of money it currently loans to students without much hope of full repayment.

    And the benefits would go beyond the purely financial. Supposedly, experiencing university education for three years has a profound effect on the maturity of individuals and the workings of their minds. In the best cases, this is undoubtedly true.

    But in many cases, it does exactly the opposite, raddling their brains with too much leisure, a lack of shape, purpose and discipline, as well as giving them unrestricted access to all the usual forms of supposedly pleasurable diversion that so often lead to waste – and worse.

    In saying this, I am far from alleging that all university education is worthless. It is clear that a good education can transform a person for the better and even bring major benefits to society. The issue is about the amount of education and the type.

    The explosion in university numbers has gone hand in hand with a proliferation of subjects that are neither academic nor practical. There needs to be a complete cull of “golf studies” and the like.

    More students than ever are entering higher education in the UK

    Bar chart with 1 bar.
    Accepted applicants through UCAS
    View as data table, More students than ever are entering higher education in the UK
    The chart has 1 X axis displaying categories.
    The chart has 1 Y axis displaying Millions. Range: to .
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    In many cases, university education would be more productive if it were freely chosen later than the usual student years of 18-21, whether for reasons of career advancement or general interest. This is exactly what the excellent Birkbeck, University of London, facilitates with its programmes of evening lectures for students who are normally working during the day.

    Some of what needs to be done to radically slim down the higher education system is about money, that is to say, denying funding to useless courses and fifth-rate institutions. But a lot of what needs to be done is about changing structures and attitudes. Parents, employers and youngsters themselves rate degrees too highly.

    It wasn’t always like this. When I began my career in the City, I encountered many young people who had not been to university but who impressed me with their knowledge, drive and life skills. Many of them went on to have stellar careers. Recently such advancement has become next to impossible without the supposedly all-important degree.

    Fortunately, in the last few years there have been some encouraging signs as several professional service firms have introduced apprenticeships for school leavers who can now opt for such a programme rather than sitting through a probably useless three-year degree course.

    In other respects, though, recent moves have been in the wrong direction, as with the insistence that nursing should be a graduate only profession and the suggestion that the police force should also be graduate entry only.

    What is wrong with the people who thrust such daft monstrosities upon the public? Don’t they realise that to be an effective police officer or nurse you need qualities that are not necessarily fostered, and may even be diminished, by following a degree course?

    There is more to life than education. Actually, there is more to education than education.

    Roger Bootle is chairman of Capital Economics

    1. He and Terry Smith should replace the current Chancellor and head of the Treasury civil servant.

    2. Students who borrow money for their studies must repay the loans IN FULL

      BUT:

      i) Student loans should be interest free (as they are in more civilised countries) or tied to beng no higher than the BoE bank rate. At the moment students have to pay over 20 times the BoE base rate – this is sheer theft or usury.

      ii) Repayment of capital should be a direct charge against income for tax purposes;

      iii) Employers should be allowed to repay their employees’ loans and charge it against their company taxes’;

      iv) Those who work in the NHS or the state education system should have their loans cancelled after they have worked for the state for 10 years to encourage them to stay in their jobs.

      If I were 42 or so and still having to pay off a loan which had risen to twice the amount originally borrowed I would probably want to engage in vandalism and violence as a rebellion against repression.

      Mind you, when I went to university only 5% of the population did so and the students whose parents could not afford to pay for their children’s time at university received maintenance grants. My parents paid for all my schooling and time at university as did Carioline’s. We are delighted to have been able to ensure that both our sons left university completely free of debt.

    3. In the USA 62% of high school kids go on to University. 16% of these have doctorates. It makes for highly educated house cleaners. I’m not kidding because I knew several in that business and running Taxi’s. Fact is that the job market does not magically expand in order to accommodate all these PhDs. So dusting houses it is!

      1. A friend of mine in Germany always wanted to employ a cleaner with something between her ears. So every time she needed a new one, she would place the following small ad in the local paper…

        Staub braucht Ruhe. Wer kümmert sich d’rum?

    4. In the USA 62% of high school kids go on to University. 16% of these have doctorates. It makes for highly educated house cleaners. I’m not kidding because I knew several in that business and running Taxi’s. Fact is that the job market does not magically expand in order to accommodate all these PhDs. So dusting houses it is!

    5. “Cut the number of graduates in half “ There is a certain section of our enriched community which has been attempting to do that for many years already, especially to the females of the species after they have has their way with them. So far they have only perfected the slashing and stabbing part – but give them time.

      2. That’s not how it would finish.
        The graduate would then take out their phone, check their messages and make a call to a mate saying – you won’t believe what this guy tried to make me do.

  58. I’m shocked,shocked I tell you…………..
    Tucker Carlson reports the vast majority of “interpreters” rescued to the USA require interpreters because they speak no English………….
    I’m sure this will turn out to be true of the 30,000 (min) Islamic “refugees” our government is determined to foist upon us

    1. There were at least ten interpreters for every serviceman, civil servant, diplomat and dog/pet lover. It wasn’t necessary for all of them to know ‘Inglish’. They will all require sanctuary and asylum in the UK though.

      1. I have NO doubt that ALL 40 million would get here if chance arose. And the idiot charities wanting them would be demanding more funding to do it.

    2. For F sake! surely the simple expedient of talking to the individuals in English should have been enough to separate the frauds from the real interpreters?

      1. 1 interpreter can easily = 40+ hangers on.

        1 wife, 4 parents, 6 children, 2 brothers, 2 sisters, each with another wife/husband and each with 2 parents and 6 children, and so the extended family gets across.

        1. All needing ?? houses, £??? in benefits, ??? school places, ??? extended docs appts to allow for the interpreters etc etc.

        2. I saw a report last week that the average interpreter evacuated by the UK had a family of 7 with the largest being a family of 12.

          1. And how many other relatives back in Afghanistan who will be able to claim asylum because of their connection to those two families? Even a tenuous link creates a real danger, so you may rest assured that if those extended families do get out they will be UK bound in a trice.

          2. PS I saw a similar report, but it suggested that those families had already come in with the interpreter/contractor with the suggestion that many more hadn’t made it.

      2. You’re missing the point johnathan.

        If they claim not to speak English they will be supported by the British taxpayer for the rest of their lives, without ever having to seek work.

        Seems a very sensible ploy to us!!

          1. That’s a great idea Peter.

            However no one entering under false pretences has been repatriated so far, even criminals after completing their sentences have

            been allowed to stay.

          3. even criminals after completing their sentences have been allowed to stay. – – Thats why some come here, deliberately to rape or murder. Sentence over, facing deportation, the claim goes in that they’ll be persecuted back home for what they did, Result – allowed to stay – then a claim for Right to Family Life – and as they can’t go home – the family can come here – result – for ending one innocent person’s life here, the criminal gets their whole family here and into a taxpayer funded work free life. VERY well rewarded for their criminality.

          4. It’s what happens here.
            You lie on your application for refugee status and are found out, you get to fcuk right off and are thrown out. Chlldren, too. There was a case recently, a young lad (16 or so) was to be deported because his mother lied on her refugee application.
            That was, quite reasonably, overturned, as he had never lived in shitholeistan, knew nobody there and could barely speak the shit language. He got to stay.

          5. It’s what happens here.
            You lie on your application for refugee status and are found out, you get to fcuk right off and are thrown out. Chlldren, too. There was a case recently, a young lad (16 or so) was to be deported because his mother lied on her refugee application.
            That was, quite reasonably, overturned, as he had never lived in shitholeistan, knew nobody there and could barely speak the shit language. He got to stay.

          6. That’s a great idea Peter.

            However no one entering under false pretences has been repatriated so far, even criminals after completing their sentences have

            been allowed to stay.

      3. Like Dutch refugees were sorted from German spies in WWII. The Germans could speak Dutch, but they couldn’t master the gutturals, such as in
        Schiphol and Scheveningen.

    3. I’m not shocked; there are interpreters and ‘interpreters’. During the closing stages of WWII, my father was stationed at Shafe HQ. Because he spoke fluent French, among his duties was the translation of French documents & clearing them for security. One day a sheet in German landed on his desk, so he sent it upstairs to the Americans for translation & immediate return. An hour later there was no sign of it, so he went up to check progress. There were 2 Yanks, each with a dictionary in hand, struggling with the task. He admonished them for the delay. They handed him a page of French to test him and were astounded when he read it straight back to them in English.

  59. Geronimo the alpaca is killed after four-year battle to save him fails. 31 August 2021.

    Geronimo the alpaca has been put down by government officials after his owner said he was forcibly removed from his home in Gloucestershire to the distress of his owners and supporters.

    There is about the death of this animal the stink of the Police State that killed him. Arranged in secret; the deed authorised by no one; the murderers masked so they could not be identified. It is a squalid act worthy of those who absented themselves from both the judgement and the execution. What was it about him that required this fate? Well his life was a denial of authority and so he had to be removed Pour encourager les autres.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/31/geronimo-alpaca-killed-four-year-battle-save-him-fails

    2. He could have been quietly killed by his own vet at home. There was no need for this kind of operation.

      The report in the Mail said that the owner thought he had been ‘primed’ with tuberculin – what did this mean and how come she was able to fend them off for four years?

    3. The state is increasingly abusive and ignores public will. It knows best, and if you do not comply, obey and give in, it destroys you.

        1. More complicated than it looks. Livestock owners have an interest in TB tests being accurate too.
          Who do you think is spreading the TB, sometimes it is farmers doing stupid things like putting cattle licks in places where they can be accessed and licked by wild animals.

          1. Foot and mouth was spread far and wide by farmers moving livestock around the country, often just to get a few extra quid per carcase. As the livestock transporters were only washed out every Leap Year the disease spread like the plague.

          2. While it may have been cheaper to move livestock round the country, let’s not forget that in many cases it was necessary to transport animals because local abattoirs had been forced to close (EU regulations).

          3. Yes, that is very true. However, sometimes the cost of following the regulation just has to be borne, ie build a new abattoir.

          4. It is mostly badgers that are the carriers of Bovine TB. It has little to do with farmers tromping about.

          5. Badgers, foxes, hounds, cats…all kinds of animals have been fingered at different times.
            The badgers lick the cow licks, thus transferring it to cows.

  60. 338314+ up ticks,

    breitbart,
    European Union Prepares to Counter Coming Afghan Migrant Crisis

    Fast tracking them through to DOVER.

  61. Vladimir Putin approval rating: Russian President disapproval hits all-time high. 31 August 2021.

    At present, Mr Putin’s approval rate is 61 percent, his lowest since 2020.

    Wow! 61%! He must lie awake at night! Even allowing for this he’s on something of a cruise at the moment. The anti-Vlad campaign by the PTB has been throttled right back. All the major CIA/Mi6 shills have been laid off. The only stuff being produced at present is in house from Daily Hacks and Foreign Blogs. On top of this the UK and USA have just had their asses kicked in Afghanistan. He must think it’s Christmas!

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1484381/Vladimir-Putin-approval-rating-Russian-President-disapproval-evg

  62. I wonder how many qualified aircrew there are among the Taliban…..

    They’ll prolly hire pilots from their neighbours.

    If the Yanks had had any brains (I know, I know) they would have booby-trapped the aircraft.

    1. With all the electronics I assumed they could destroy them remotely from the USA, but did the Taliban keep some people who should have been evacuated, as hostages to ensure the aircraft weren’t destroyed. Blow them up – and the world sees them beheaded?

      1. The technology has been there for years.Sadam thought he had an air-defense system until the US had a word with the French(who supplied it) and when the US invaded he had nothing.
        I think that’s why Turkey bought the S-400 instead of the Patriot system.
        It’s a hedge against the West if things go tits-up.

  65. Taliban heartland flooded with supporters in wake of final US withdrawal
    Streets of Kandahar, the spiritual home of the Taliban, were awash with supporters a day after the final US troops departed Kabul

    Thousands of Taliban supporters poured onto the streets of Kandahar on Tuesday to celebrate the final withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan. A chorus of car horns filled the main square of Afghanistan’s second-biggest city as a joyous crowd hailed the end of the US’s 20-year war. Cries of “Allahu akbar, Allahu akbar” rang out across Shaheedan Square, which was awash with men and boys in traditional clothing, many waving the black-and-white Taliban standard.
    I think that Biden and the US will regret this for years to come
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/08/31/pictures-fireworks-fill-kabuls-sky-taliban-celebrate-final-us/

    2. Imran Khan thinks he has got rid of the blighters for good but they will return with their spoils once they realise there is no reason to be there, plundering Paki villages will be the sport.

      3. Indeed Trump did make a deal but as I pointed out a couple of days ago it was conditional. A “walk softly and carry a big stick” deal. Amongst the sticks was a threat to drop a MOAB on the Taliban chiefs village if he tried to play fast and lose with the deal.

      4. Well, done, Harry – you managed to blame Trump for the disastrous way that Biden implemented it.

        1. involved in 89 foreign wars in 200 years and they’re always the good guys.
          That’s some record.
          I won’t go into the wins,losses and draws….its embarrassing.

    5. Somehow it reminds me of Stalin’s standing ovations, where you were taken out and shot if you didn’t join in with the 10 minute standing ovation or were the first to stop clapping.

  66. It comes as the number of organ transplants fell by more than 30 per
    cent during the first wave of Covid in 2020. According to modelling
    calculations, the slowdown in transplants resulted in more than 48,000
    years of patient life loss.

    Whilst I am suspicious of such calculations, I wonder how many additional years the lockdowns added to the life expectancies of those most likely to die if they caught it, given their underlying problems.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/covid-coronavirus-latest-updates-south-africa-variant-may-have-increased-transmissibility-south-african-scientists-say-b953001.html

    1. Morning All.

      I met a lady earlier today whose 50 year old daughter, who having suffered 10 years of Crohn’s disease, is awaiting a Liver Transplant in Birmingham. She understand there is tremendous backlog of folk awaiting a transplant.

    2. Wait a sec, I thought organ “donation” was now opt-out rather than opt-in?
      The reason, we were told, was that there would never be any shortages again….

      2. I doubt that there are shortages, unless contamination by Covid causes everything to be destroyed and parts are not available as a result. My suspicion is that the majority of NHS resources have been channelled to Covid at the expense of everything else.

    1. Presumably a family of 12 Afghans are living in that boat: the guinea fowl won’t last long…

      1. Indeed it was. They lifted the bridge then swung open the gates to let one boat out before I sailed in. They closed the gates and literally pulled the plug and the water drained away and emptied into the canal below the adjacent lock. Energy efficiency at its best.

  75. One for Tom.

    A man goes to the butchers and is chatting with the young female
    assistant. “How old do you think I am”? “Well i’d say you were about
    40”. “No i’m 56. I look after myself. I eat heathy foods, go running,
    swimming and to the gym. He then walks out and goes to the bus stop. An
    elderly women walks up to him and says ” It’s my birthday today, i’m 80
    years old and when I get back to my sheltered accommodation they’re
    going to have a party for me. I’m really excited”. “Oh that’s very nice,
    Happy Birthday”. “I bet you can’t guess how old I am”. “Well if you let
    me put my hand down your trousers I’ll tell you”. “Ok go on then”. She
    puts her hand down and has a feel around for a few minutes. “Your 56”.
    “Wow your right how did you work that one out”.”I was stood behind you
    in the butchers shop”..

          2. Happy Birthday”. “I bet you can’t guess how old I am”. “Well if you let
            me put my hand down your trousers I’ll tell you”. “Ok go on then”. She
            puts her hand down and has a feel around for a few minutes. “Your 56”.
            “Wow your right how did you work that one out”.”I was stood behind you
            in the butchers shop”..

    2. Well, he does have an excuse. He has no idea what time of day it is. Or what day it is. Or month. Or year.

    3. At one opening of Parliament a mobile phone rang while the Queen was speaking. Clare Short, the MP whose phone it was, was covered in confusion and hurriedly tried to supress the phone’s ringing and finally and fumblingly she managed to silence it.
      The Queen’s response was magnificent:
      “I do hope it wasn’t anything important!”

    1. More
      than 100,000 people were airlifted to safety, including both citizens
      of Western countries and Afghan nationals who helped the war effort
      against the Taliban.

      So two Western citizens were returned and 99,998 interpreters joined them…

  79. Banned BBC journalist says Russia ‘moving in reverse’ in final report. 31 August 2021.

    The BBC’s Moscow correspondent has used her final dispatch before her expulsion from Russia by the Kremlin to warn that the country was “moving in reverse” when it came to free speech and press freedoms.

    The BBC says it is continuing efforts to reverse the Russian decision. The broadcaster’s director general, Tim Davie, said earlier this month that the expulsion was a direct assault on media freedom.

    The irony! An organisation founded on lies and funded by extortion.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/31/banned-bbc-journalist-says-russia-moving-in-reverse-in-final-report-sarah-rainsford

  81. Prevening, all. I’m sorry, but I don’t consider a telephone call “contact with a GP”. I expect a hands on examination or at least a visual check up. I remember reading about a chap whose life was saved because a doctor shook hands with him and recognised a serious condition. You can’t do that over the telephone, even if you’ve got video (which I haven’t).

    1. I think it rather depends what you want from the conversation – if it’s a new condition you’re worried about, you need a face-to face; but if all you want is a repeat prescription or to book a blood test then the telephone will do.

      1. Ah, I don’t bother my GP with repeat prescriptions, I use the POD online ordering service. Blood test, what’s that?

      1. I understand that is the case – you can tell a lot about a person’s health by the state of their eyes/iris, so I was told.

          1. Good evening, Phizzee. Hope you are okay (or as well as can be expected) and that Dolly is in fine form.

          2. Thanks. Dolly is her usual self. Full of beans and tricks. Pretending she hasn’t had her tea by dragging her bowl around the kitchen and looking pointedly at it.

          3. Whenever there is any likelihood of food, Oscar stands on his hind legs and performs pirouettes to the accompaniment of the barking chorus. It doesn’t get him anywhere because he won’t get treats or anything unless he’s sitting down and quiet, but that hasn’t sunk in, yet.

    3. Good evening, Conwy. I reported this morning the very good (and practically normal) goings on at our GP outfit today. The more I read, the luckier I think we are.

      Try “insisting” on a face to face. Say you are a solicitor…..{:¬))

      2. At the beginning of August I was referred to the local orthopaedic to see about a consultation for my hip. Today I received a letter (the second from the booking people) to say it’s in the system (and that’s after I chased it up after not hearing from them by the end of three weeks). If I’m lucky I may get an appointment by Christmas.

          1. Indeed. There is one good thing and that is, walking actually helps me keep going. Once I sit down (or stand still) I have great difficulty doing anything but hobble until I loosen up again.

        2. If you’re unlucky you’ll get an appointment, but the letter will arrive the day after and you’ll go to the back of the queue.
          You’ll be allowed to clap the NHS as you move backwards.

          1. I have never clapped the NHS. I’ve paid for it and not got my money’s worth (MOH’s dementia review was postponed and postponed and in the end there was no point; when you’re dead a review isn’t going to do any good whatsoever).

          1. Been overdone, I think. Too many kids say “I’ve got 20 thousand followers on Instagram, pls give me a free meal.”
            Followers can be bought…

          3. It was a closed book to me until my daughter started an insta account for me earlier this year!
            Instagram is terribly boring since Jonathan Myles-Lea died 🙁
            I promised her I wouldn’t ruin all her good work by getting involved with politics on that site…!

          4. I abandoned Instagram years ago when I realised it was just for ‘influencers’. Couldn’t be bothered with it.

          5. Yes, there are a lot of them…they look like this
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d0104706086a2d38031214c83342d4c22bba8e7954ce7e3eceb8fe26b359a188.jpg

            But there are also some fantastic posters who put up either really obscure paintings, which interest me, or their own work (ditto) or simply very attractive photographs.
            Myles-Lea had a lot of followers posting high-quality stuff.
            For example, this painter, Diego de Mora (copying from instagram, not sure about the quality). Go to his insta site, there’s a fascinating story about his French great grandparents. Great Granddad was murdered in Somalia in the early 20s.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cf37e9c63bbf24dfb2493100bbf8bab4ec19390e6b8c5cbc06037d90c699b8d3.jpg

          7. He paints exquisite watercolours of interiors, obviously all belonging to rich people – I expect he charges a lot!
            But I love his work – look at the way he’s handled the flowers here, completely conveying floweriness, yet simplifying them.

            Your travels would fill a book, Phizzee!

          18. Er no. That was Malta and it wasn’t alcohol poisoning as such. I drank too much tequila, went over and cracked my head. I was lucky as i only split the scalp open. Lots of blood but i discharged myself the same night. I was fine. Not even a headache.

          19. I hope that horse ornament isn’t as deformed as it’s painted. Even Chinese horses don’t look that fat and upright! I do agree with you about the flowers, though.

          20. I’m sure he painted it as it is – he’s very meticulously realistic. But you’re right – I don’t recognise its origins either. It is a bit odd. Looks constipated! It must also be quite big.
            Aha – I think I’ve got it. Bet it’s some modern sculpture by the graduate of what passes as an art college these days!

          22. I longed for a traditional classical training. The nearest I got was when some visiting Polish art teachers came. I can honestly say, that after three years of doing an art degree, my drawing and painting techniques were worse than when I started!

          26. Same here. My sister, who works in this field, says that the classical training was always available in Russia. I never thought of applying abroad in those pre-internet days. Unlike my son this year, who ruthlessly discarded almost every art school in Europe as “not offering enough anatomy and drawing” before settling on one. His tutors are both Russian!

          27. I couldn’t go abroad because of family commitments. It will give you an idea of the “quality” of the teaching to know that we students organised our own life classes on a Friday lunchtime.

          30. He is the sort that’ll live to 100. And Woke King Willie will give him a knighthood.

          32. “Our King is looking a little pale today…”
            Well that’s his nickname sorted then! Good to get these things settled well in advance.

          35. I doubt there is a single Politician that has had any trouble at all in seeing a Doctor whenever they wanted.

          36. Remember how Blair went straight to the front of the queue when he needed treatment? No waiting list for him.

    3. The animal was brought in from New Zealand in August 2017 and tested positive in August that year. It was tested positive again in November that year.
      Hell’s teeth it should have been turned into a jumper four years ago. I wonder how many other animals will have caught a New Zealand variant of BTB thanks to this woman and will be put down?

        1. Not just Oscar – all my previous dogs have been more loyal and deserving than most people (and certainly most children) that I’ve known!

  85. That’s me for yet another miserable, dreary, cold, wet day. More tomorrow – though we are having an outing to Narridge to see an exhibition of painting by John Crome. Conducted by the curator himself…

    So I’ll bid you a fond farewell and wish you a jolly evening.

    A demain.

    1. Weather may be crap but look on the bright side Eeyore ……you’ve have a caring NHS.
      My experience of the NHS – No Hope Service!

      1. That is true, but in this particular instance I don’t think the beast knew what was on the agenda.

        Although, looking at some of the videos, perhaps it did,.

    1. One might have thought that the highly trained Afghan pilots would have been falling over themselves to fly it out as their ticket to freedom.
      Ever get the feeling that we’re being conned?

        2. Off topic, I don’t recall seeing from your man recently. I hope all is well, and if I’ve missed bad news I apologise for asking.

          1. I have a feeling Jackthe lad left us because the site was generally proTrump. Not sure how he feels about Biden now.

          2. Precisely.

            More to the point Johnson described his first conversation with Joe Biden as a “breath of fresh air”.

            Obviously Covid has left the fat Turkish git with a loss of a sense of smell. Even foul halitosis and the stench of a man who shits in his pants was undetectable to our very own globalist puppet PM.

            Words matter and eventually come back to bite you, Johnson, you mere excuse for a human being.

          3. No apology needed, he is keeping well. I think we have both been too close to American politics to believe anything we see or read about anyone in Washington. But we keep hoping that the local people will get the government back to normal!

      2. Indeed.
        I would have assumed that the aircraft would have been flown out with people clinging on to the outside, or if not flyable, would have been destroyed by burning it.
        Aftenposten report that the US wrecked the gear they didn’t take with them… https://www.aftenposten.no/verden/i/L5693J/oedela-vaapen-fly-og-kjoeretoeyer-for-milliardbeloep-foer-de-forlot-kabul
        Something doesn’t add up here.
        The article has a table giving the number (antall) of vehicles donated to the Afghans by the US… wow!

        1. Interesting that they are frightened of the Taliban and are effectively saying they don’t trust the USA to help.

    3. My neighbour was an RAF station commander and test pilot for the Hercules. He was recently a director of Marshall’s Aerospace in Cambridge from where the Hercules transports for twenty odd countries are maintained.

      When I next speak with him I will report his views on the subject.

      1. Interesting… I saw other photos that suggest that the C130 was actually leaning over a bit, with broken port undercarriage.
        But even so – why was it intact, not burned?

  89. Utterly off topic.
    “The Good Life” was fun, I’ve just watched an episode on Beeb 4. Happier times.
    Porridge up next.

    1. Be fair.
      New Taliban is like a Tranny.
      Still got the meat and two veg but is pretending to be soft and cuddly.

      2. The Taliban are presently going house to house assassinating folk whose identities were given to them by arsehole Biden. Treason does not cover the dolt’s crimes, demented or not.

  93. You will shortly be able to get instant access to a qualified digital medical professional in your room at home – Dr Alexa!

    Alexa will see you now: NHS partners with Amazon

    Announcing the partnership Matt Hancock, Secretary for Health and Social Care, said the partnership was about building a health and care system fit for the future.

    “We want to empower every patient to take better control of their healthcare and technology like this is a great example of how people can access reliable, world-leading NHS advice from the comfort of their home, reducing the pressure on our hardworking GPs and pharmacists,” he said.

    https://www.digitalhealth.net/2019/07/nhs-partners-amazon-alexa-health-advice/

    2. “Alexa, I think I’m having a heart attack”.
      “Thank you for contacting me. You are number 453 in the queue. Your health is very important to me. Try calling 111”.

      1. “Would you like me to save you a lot of phone calls and recommend a local Funeral Director?”

    3. “Every breath you take
      And every move you make
      Every bond you break
      Every step you take
      I’ll be watching you
      Every single day
      And every word you say
      Every game you play
      Every night you stay
      I’ll be watching you.
      Regards, Alexa.”
      .

    5. The Baitch cannot give a weather forecast using Imperial Measurements of Length, ie inches of rain

      She can tell you in a milli-second, though when your Amazon parcels will be with you

      She might be good fr prescription then

    6. In other news: tech billionaires get their hands on the medical records of the entire population of the United Kingdom.
      Well, that’s not scary at all, is it!

    7. When they launched NHS Digital they said our records would only be released to certain groups for research purposes. There was an opt out. Which i did. I wonder if i am really opted out.

  94. Biden made a very defiant and intelligible speech tonight. It was obviously written for him and he was reading it off a teleprinter with confidence. He blamed D Trump for making a deal with the Taliban concerning the departure of US and other NATO military. He walked off the stage without answering questions. I don’t think he did himself any harm tonight.

    1. After losing all credibility, coherence and integrity, it is difficult to do further harm.

      President Biden – the man (?) – should fall on his sword …

      1. He spoke well but I am sure that the speech was defensive, one sided and economical with the truth. Tomorrow we will get the opposition’s opinion on his speech.

        1. Joe Biden, POTUS and ‘Leader of Western Democracy’ has surrendered to the Taliban – a bunch of Pashtun speaking tribes – who believe that women have no inheritance rights whatsoever.

          He has abandoned thousands of American, British and NATO-serving interpreters and other officials who remain prime targets for murder by he Taliban.

          He has simultaneously destroyed all Western Alliances.

          This is the greatest political and military disgrace in my lifetime.

    2. The debacle in Afghanistan has nothing whatever to do with the withdrawal protocols formulated by Trump and Pompeo.

      The debacle has everything to do with the demented evil shell of a person Joe Biden and the utterly incompetent Obama retreads appointed since his supposed election. Bear in mind that Biden is carrying out instructions from the Obama/Clinton crime families. He is a mere puppet in the scheme of things.

      These crime families are too acting on higher authority viz. Rockerfeller, Rothschilds etc., and their supporting cast of satanist billionaire chancers such as Gates, Soros, Zuckerberg, Bezos and Dorsey.

    3. I am very glad to say that the sort of women who are attracted to incoherent slobs are not attractive to, or attracted by, me!

    4. What? No way! I don’t trust men who mumble. I think they’re using it as a cover to figure out how to cheat you, take advantage of you, or dump you.

      In fact, I reckon that should go on the girls’ guide to life, along with

      Nothing good happens after 11 pm.
      Nobody in Miami is your friend.
      There is no such thing as a safe space in New York.
      Never trust men who mumble.

      Origin of the first three
      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9430715/Daughter-Secret-Service-agent-shares-best-safety-tips-dad-given-her.html?offset=19&max=100&jumpTo=comment-677779793&reply=677779793#comment-677779793

    5. Marlon Brando swung both ways so any woman that trusted him to remain by her side would be a fool.

      He mumbled his lines because he couldn’t remember them.

  96. Q: Why did Joe Biden leave behind 10% of the Americans in Afghanistan

    A: Haven’t you heard? It’s always 10% for the Big Guy.

  98. James Brokenshire confirms lung cancer has ‘progressed’

    Tory MP says he is ‘keeping upbeat’ but ‘needs space to focus on treatment’

    Fellow MPs sent messages of support to Mr Brokenshire, including Mr Johnson, who wrote: “So sorry to hear James. Our thoughts are with you
    and your family, and we hope you recover soon.”

    Sajid Javid, the Health Secretary, said: “Sending you and Cathy all best wishes.”

    Nadhim Zahawi, the vaccines minister, said: “Stay strong my friend.”

    Do we have any ‘Brit Ministers?’

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/08/31/james-brokenshire-confirms-lung-cancer-has-progressed/

  101. An early Good Morning and Happy 1st of September to all.
    Sat up in bed with a mug of tea each for the DT & myself.

  103. Mng to those up and about. In midst of prepping regional sitreps so will be more wrapped up finalising and away from here. Some decent links – research resources and BTL https://off-guardian.org/2021/08/31/watch-research-resources-you-should-know-about/ SA’s leading heart surgeon on C-19 https://odysee.com/@science.nikipress.com:4/dr-susan-vosloo-south-africa-x27-s-first-female-heart-surgeon:b and WHO link covering your Jab passports / certs as partof your digital ID https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1359417/retrieve

    2. Anna de Buisseret, I believe. She has been doing this for months and was attacked on Twitter and hasn’t posted since 19th July.

      1. mng KtK, thought initially it was Jacqui Deevoy, but you may be right. Both now banned from twatter which is always a good sign they’re over target

        2. This lady posted some good legal advice and the trolls were released. As far as I can see her Twitter account is still open but she stopped posting.

    3. Anna de Buisseret, I believe. She has been doing this for months and was attacked on Twitter and hasn’t posted since 19th July.

    1. They wind him up and then let him go. They don’t care that he has a defective spring mechanism.

      1. it’s all pointing to he’s being slid to the exit door. Those pulling his strings [regardless of what comes out of his mouth] couldn’t care less

        1. Entirely agree. He’ll be discarded like any other kind of rubbish when the time is right. He has a metaphorical DNR notice on his back.

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