Tuesday 6 August: The Prime Minister’s words on the riots must be followed by action

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739 thoughts on “Tuesday 6 August: The Prime Minister’s words on the riots must be followed by action”

  1. Good morrow, Gentlefolk, today’s (recycled) story

    Private Lesson

    A father was discussing the "birds and the bees" with his son. He asked his son if he had any questions.

    “Dad, what do a woman's private parts look like?"

    The father thought for a moment and said, "son, before sex it looks like the softest petal on the most beautiful pink rose."

    "What about after sex?"

    The father thought a little longer, "Have you ever seen a bulldog eating mayonnaise?"

  4. G' morning all,

    Castle McPhee is shrouded in drizzle, wind in the West, 16℃. It should clear up by lunchtime, 22℃ this afternoon.

    If you're a pensioner and you voted for this shower, well, more fool you.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1510d1ef902d20010e33860ee245a43a2ac72464441353f17eccf9201fa07069.png

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/bills/energy/pensioners-energy-bills-rise-winter-labour/

    The more we see of them the more I am becoming convinced that they will not last the full term. Something will overtake and sink them.

    2. The labour party haven't got an effing clue of how much damage they have done to pensioners just in their first week.
      Of course their are many who are not short of funds to pay their fuel bills.
      But there are also many whose total annual pension payments don't even add up to a month's claimed expenses by our greedy mps.
      After all that's why they got rid of Elizabeth Filkin.
      There are thousands of elderly people out there who don't or are not able to, or qualify to claim benefits.
      If they tried now because of this nasty
      Labour government they would all be shunned.

        1. Keep on the case Tom.
          I tried to get a disabled ♿ badge because my knee was very painful and couldn’t walk far.
          No chance.
          Perhaps I’m not diverse enough.
          Since I’ve seen several people of diversity who don’t appear to have any difficulties, jump into their SUVs and drive off from the disabled parking spot.
          They probably have friends in the offices.

          1. Mine was in the written-off vehicle last September. I doubt Scotland will renew it but I’ve given up driving.

          3. Appeal, R E. I had to. They'll send you for assessment by a proper medical person and you should get it. Don't take NO for an answer.

  5. 391068+ up ticks,

    Morning Each,

    Tuesday 6 August: The Prime Minister’s words on the riots must be followed by action

    I am pretty certain they will be I also believe that a charge of inciting a riot, as in a prior post "a political rogue fireman taking
    petrol to a blaze.

    I could see no other ending to the political on-goings other than what has taken place, apart from the looting much of the core actions taken via the so far righters was in many eyes thoroughly
    justified.

    NO righr minded peoples are going to stand by and watch their children raped /abused and murdered, and their elderly treated in such an odious manner the indigenous peoples were.

    As for the Dover daily invasion that has been a daily slap across the kisser for years and consented too by many, shown by the voting pattern / polling stations.

    Is an emergency Davos meeting on the cards, we have unity on the side of the political overseers, in regards to the political / pharmaceutical cartel that has always been the case, now it seems we are witnessing the decent patriotic people RESET
    has been triggered.

  6. Alex Phillips' famous rant about the incessant creepyness of the "you know whats".. For any white woman casually walking or shopping in the streets of Britain garnered over a million views.

    Here's Edward Dutton excellent rant summing up the state of play.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_nGJJBC3Yo

    1. And by accusing everyone who objects to unbridled immigration of being far right Starmer is stoking the fire.

      And then by taking the side of Islam he is pouring fuel on the fire.

      If Starmer is not a complete idiot he must realise this so is he deliberately trying to advance Civil War so he can bring in Draconian measures?

      1. Smarmer was very pro-lockdown during the Plandemic years. Calling for 2 to 3 weeks "circuit-breakers" and accusing the Buffoon of not being quick enough when imposing restrictions etc.

        I think we can see where Smarmer would like to go. He's put the UK on a knife-edge and all he seems interested in is punishing people, in particular the white British population.

  7. American soldiers 'are hit in huge rocket attack on military base in Iraq' .

    The White House Press Office and Joe Biden's own social media accounts said that the president and Kamala Harris have been briefed by national security advisors on the attack.

    'They discussed the steps we are taking to defend our forces and respond to any attack against our personnel in a manner and place of our choosing,' a spokesperson said.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13711677/Ain-al-Asad-base-Iraq-hit-missiles-Middle-East-crisis.html

    I bet you're all really happy that Biden and Harris are in charge.

    1. 391068+ up ticks,

      Morning SJ,
      Acid rain as in a melting agent, all part of the culling program.

      1. 391068+ up ticks,

        Morning MM,

        Dover really is the showcase of the lab/lib/con coalitions ongoing intentions.

      1. 391068+ up ticks,

        Morning N,
        There is still many a fool that has faith in current politico’s.

    1. Thank you, very interesting. It's a minor point, but the interviewee was wearing a bright blue polo shirt bearing the logos of Intel and Nike. Not only was his information off-message, but the whole setting was disadvantageous for a TV interview IMHO. As many hospital clinicians are no longer of native British origin*, this may also lead to significant statistical bias over time. Sectarianism, tribalism , call it what you will.
      (Northern Irish, Welsh, Scottish or English)

    1. The criminal law will be applied selectively to those we dislike the most. Not, of course to those fighting for just causes. Just the white trash.

      1. A message from the past:

        A Muslim suicide bomber tried to blow up the Liverpool Hospital for Women.

        Fortunately his bomb malfunctioned and he was the only one killed.

        Two Labour MPs commented on this. One comment is below.

        Liverpool

        Charlotte Nichols, Labour MP for Warrington North, said: "Incredibly disturbing news.

        "Wishing those investigating all the very best as they work to ascertain what happened, and

        sending love to the family and friends of the person who was killed in the incident."
        .

        Now you know where Labour's priorities lie.

        1. It make us wish that she had been standing along side him.
          As he was in her statement.

      1. After the Muslim riots last year it was noticed that none had been arrested.

        Sir Mark Rowley (of COBRA fame) said that he couldn't arrest any rioters.

        A letter to The Sunday Times stated:

        One thing that wasn't mentioned is that a few days ago Sir Mark Rowley stated that he couldn't arrest any Muslim extremists until Parliament gave a comprehensive definition of extremism.

        But surely riotous assembly, threatening behaviour, and actions likely to cause a breach of the peace are already defined in law?

        Just because they are being comitted by a religious minority doesn't give them carte blanche to commit those crimes, and to claim so is just plain ridiculous (or plain cowardly)

        2. They are cowards. They really do appear to be only too pleased to ignore muslim violence and take it out on the indigenous.

  15. Just when you thought it couldn't posibly get any crazier…..

    "At least one child under the age of five is on a list of thousands waiting for NHS gender care.

    More than 5,700 under-18s are in line to be seen by new NHS gender clinics for children after they opened in April 2024.

    Among them is at least one child aged four or younger, despite NHS rules proposing that no one under the age of seven should be referred for any form of gender treatment.

    The specialist NHS hubs, led by London’s Great Ormond Street Hospital and Alder Hey Children’s Hospital in Liverpool, have replaced the controversial Tavistock clinic."

    Now where did I put my handcart….?

      1. I suspect that the parents are either that way inclined themselves or they got one flavour of child and wanted the other and are trying to change its sex.
        Alternatively they are a gay/lesbian couple and want a child to match themselves.

        It's something I'm not keen on being done, but the child should be taken into care.

          1. The type of people who think a child is a fashion accessory and a transgender one even more desirable?

    3. "You must be 18 years old to get a tattoo. The only exception to this is when the tattoo is carried out for medical reasons by a qualified medical practitioner."

      So, the NHS can give a child a tattoo: "My pronouns are…"

        1. They gave me a forehead tattoo, but it wasn't that, not quite sure what it means though. ЯͶᗡ…

          1. I went to the opticians this morning. The letters I had to read were back to front, I kid you not. I asked her if they were Russian! They were N C R H and D in various combinations. I found it really hard not to read from right to left.

  16. Morning all 🙂😊
    Quite a pleasant start to the day, not sure what is in store its difficult to interpreate the arm waving of the weather presenters.
    After the initial statements from the government on the withdrawal of winter fuel allowances for well deserving pensioners. It probably no longer possible to belive a single word from the British government.
    They don't seem to have a clue, as is the same as most people in politics, they don't actually live in the real world. And never have and never will !
    Which is not unusual.

  17. Good morning everyone.
    I have been suffering from a painful cough, possibly now a cold as well. Could be some variant of Coughid, or a RSV (respiratory syncytial virus), but I still have some sensation of taste. This cough has been around locally for some months, and presumably nationally, but never seems to feature in news reports.

    2. Good Morning Tim, try lots of drugs😊Seriously, hope you get better soon. Are you gargling with salt water? It really does help.

    3. Test yourself every hour. Wear a mask. Keep away from people. Get vaccinated again (and again)

  18. Yo and Good Moaning all, from a (weather) dull Costa del Skeg.

    My Life is returning to normal now, but I am shrinking: have lost Eight Pounds (avoirdupois, not Sterling) in the last week

      1. Yo mo

        I was not allowed to eat or drink for half of it, then, exhaust valves have been lubricated

        1. How you must have suffered! Enforced nil-food diets for days might be good for one but IMO they are jolly hard.

  19. Sherelle Jacobs is either on drugs or she's been told to write this bilge. I'd plump for the latter. In which case, the DT is finished.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/10f4cd4e300d63f5ee1e5fc0613bb5f09bac75164686840fcbb88b364f0c361c.png

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/05/centrism-died-starmer-must-discover-his-inner-conservative/

    At this disturbing juncture, conservatives who believe in truth, decency and order must back to the hilt a Prime Minister they don’t particularly rate. So far, he has risen to the crisis with reasonable proficiency. Downing Street has made clear that he does not consider concerns about immigration as far-Right.

    At least Allison Pearson, to judge from her offerings on 'X', knows and understands what is going on. So, probably do a handful of others at the DT. But, they must do their master's bidding.

    1. "… they must do their master's bidding."

      Indeed they must. The World Economic Forum is a demanding taskmaster.

    2. Last night I nearly wrote a comment:

      "I put this into Google translate and it was still complete bilge afterwards."

    3. There is zero reason to support this prime minister. His popularity rating, by the way, has plummeted to 3. This man has decided that the entire indigenous population of the UK are right wing thugs who belong to right wing organizations. But all he can name is EDL, an organization defunct for over a decade. Can anyone tell me of a right wing organization on the far right that exists today? I know of none. And why is he so intent on defending Muslims who came out with machetes, knives, and baseball bats? I saw no one on the so called right so armed. Did anyone else?

  20. A Primary Teacher explains to her class that she is a Labour Supporter. She asks her pupils to raise their hands if they too are Labour Supporters. Everyone in the class raises their hand except one little girl.

    
The teacher looks at the girl with surprise and says, 'Mary, why didn't you raise your hand?’

    
'Because I'm not a Labour Supporter', she replied.

    
The teacher, still shocked, asked, 'Well, if you are not a Labour Supporter, then who are you a supporter of?’

    
'I am a Conservative Supporter, and proud of it ,' Mary replied.

    
The teacher could not believe her ears. 'Mary, why, pray tell, are you a Conservative Supporter?’

    
'Because my mum is a Conservative Supporter, and my dad is a Conservative Supporter, so I'm a Conservative Supporter too!’

    
'Well,' said the teacher in an obviously annoyed tone, 'That is no reason for you to be a Conservative Supporter.
You don't have to be just like your parents all of the time. What if your mum was a layabout and your dad was a useless no-brained waster, what would you be then?’

    
'Then', Mary smiled, 'I'd be a Labour Supporter!’

    1. TTTBG

      (Another annoying acronym – or abbreviation if it cannot be pronounced!)

      TooTrueToBeGood

  21. "After more than 100 years as the home of English rugby, Twickenham will be renamed Allianz Stadium from next month after a naming rights deal was agreed.

    The Rugby Football Union (RFU) announced the move, which is expected to anger rugby traditionalists, after a decision by its board. It has been known as Twickenham since the first match was played there in 1909."

    Yeah, right! They can call it what they like- it is still (and will always be) Twickenham!!

    1. Twickers will always be Twickers, despite to machinations of the prawn-sandwich-munching, pink gin brigade.

        3. You bet I do, Dean. What’s more, Hombre, I can’t find the Opal Fruits for the Starburst.

    3. Allnazi Stadium der anagram ist.

      The web says that the insurance & financial services company now has a portfolio of eight stadiums/stadia around the world. UEFA and FIFA would ignore the new name if any of their soccer matches were played at said stadiums, because Allianz is not one of their tournament 'partners'.

  22. Good morning all.
    After another couple of hours sleep, it's a bright and sunny morning with scattered cloud and 12°C on the Yard Thermometer.

          2. Good. Had you thought about not setting alarm at all (unless you need to for an appointment etc), seeing what time you wake naturally?

          10. I usually find that if I have an appointment which means I have to wake up early, that I don’t sleep well. Otherwise I can sleep for England. It’s better to sleep when you need to and wake up naturally. You seem to have very disturbed sleep patterns, so perhaps you need to relax and reset them so you sleep at night better.

          12. Or have one at a regular time – my OH always needs an hour or so lie down in the early afternoon. Then he can keep going till bed time.

    1. Firstborn had an apprenticeship as motor mechanic. Not only was he paid, but no Uni loan – and easy to get a job afterwards, with pretty good pay.

    2. Good morning all ,

      We have had rain , so the garden is happy , 17c.

      This has been good short period for thatchers , we have so many thatched cottages down here , and young apprentices and master thatchers are busy working, repairing or rethatching . Their art form is wonderful .

      Chimney sweeps are in demand , and that is quite a technical skill now , most older homes still have chimneys, and look at the amount of country homes , to get an appointment with the sweep is a long wait , maybe a couple of months , and what a lucrative job they have .

      Tree surgeons , hedge cutters , garden maintenance , sheep shearers, farriers , fence erectors, there are many countryside skills that pay well , and yes , a university degree is useless if you can't get a job .

      1. Met someone who has a degree in dance the other day. I asked what they planned to do and the answer was work on cruise ships. Fair enough, I said. And once you're over 30?

          2. The job just wears people out. There is no career in it. You can't do 'dance' for your job. At a physical level the body wears out.

    3. AI is going to destroy the raison d'etre of minor universities; of course, that process already started when they evolved into visa factories. When you deal with paperwork issued by agencies of the State, ask yourself if there is any job which could not be undertaken more efficiently by a well-trained computer system? Even Members of Parliament are dinosaurs.

      1. AI will replace government almost in it's entirety. That's why the EU is trying so desperately to stop it's use. Our own government is too inept to realise that it is also finished, just in it's last debt fuelled last legs before it's end.

      2. Not all university degree are useless!

        My second son, Henry (28), was top of his year and awarded a distinction in his M.Sc. in Computer Science and Data Analytics and is now writing programs for AI.

        His elder brother, Christo (30), got a good degree in Aerospace Engineering and is in a well paid job with a wife and a 3 bedroomed semi with a good garden and garage space for his hang glider and classic car restoration project.

        Both of them have never been unemployed since leaving university!

        Without good, relevant degrees they would have found it more difficult to get started.

    4. Universities aare still refusing to acknowledge the falling student numbers. There will be a point where they are simply non-viable.

      Problem is, when you meet high level university staff they're all Left wing wishy washy idiots They're all 'diversity' and 'inclusion' and 'ownership' but none of them are focussed on efficiency, cost and outcomes. Some don't even know how many buildings they have. Others don't know how many students they have.

      The attitude is comically civil service. They assume money is infinite, they've no idea of costings for projects, they don't know if one has overrun, they can't budget, their approvals system is byzantine with multiple boards and panels all having to convene, which takes people away from other work (which has no real value) because there's 3 managers for every employee, deploying software is an exercise in frustration as people don't reply to messages, there's no assignment system (yet they're very proud of their antiquated procedures).

      Case in point: getting a virtual machine deployed here, in our office takes one command and 4 minutes for it to be built. To do the same at a site we're on took 8 weeks.

      1. The sooner they get their acronyms in the right order (i.e. DIE) then the sooner they might actually die.

      2. Universities are no longer centres of higher education, they are commercial enterprises raking in government grants and excessive student fees and churning out half baked graduates indoctrinated with the latest left-wing and woke mindsets. They are used by foreign states such as China to infiltrate Western society and despotic barbarian societies to off-load their surpopulation.

        1. Yes, commercial, but the staff in them haven't adapted to that new world. Not sure about government grants. They have a grand vision of themselves as shining bastions of light where the people within wear pristine robes of ermine and make grand proclamations on ideal worlds where time, cost and outcomes are irrelevant. They think efficiency is a bad word.

          Blair used universities as a way to disguise youth unemployment. Are the Chinese infiltrating? Well, they comprise a third of Soton's university. All I know about them is they live like pigs

      3. I briefly went out with a university lecturer once. He was totally oblivious to the world outside the university – ranting against the salaries that he and his staff were being given (not a clue what salaries and wages outside his little bubble were like). I stood it for two weeks (he was otherwise a nice chap) and then left.

        1. Schools are the same. Teachers are so wrapped up in cotton wool they are completely unaware of a world outside their classroom. A good friend (a welder by trade) married a schoolteacher. She took him along to an open day at the school where they mingled with other staff and their spouses. He lost count of the times he was asked, "Oh, where do you teach?"

          He got very pissed off after a while and told them, "I do not teach. I work for a living!".

          1. Good for him! The few teachers I have come across socially have great similarities with the commercial airline pilots I have come across socially – they are used to being the boss in their little enclave, and forget that in the outside world they have no more sway or power than anyone else.

    5. Let's hope that there are still enough churches and other historic buildings to house those bells.

  24. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soRN6UulCsY

    I look at the pictures of these people and I don't see myself in them. I fully, completely understand the anger. I accept it. For 25 horrible years we've been ignored and told we are bigots for pointing out the economic and social facts.

    Now we have a government proving that hypocrisy and making it clear white people are second class in their own country.

    But – and it's a but as big as my own – violence and mob handedness are wrong. Those plod are just doing a job. A job their leadership has done very, very badly at the behest of a political class that still seeks to protect ethnicities over locals.

    The state created this mess, now it's going to use massive force to defeat it – and it will be defeated. State resources – thanks to our money, te money these people earn to pay for the police officers – will be used to destroy these protestors.

    But the violence was never acceptable. This is just the boring rentamob that just wants a fight. It's no different to the black looting mob yet there is no other way to make the state listen and the state is determined to NOT listen.

    Farage is right: this needs to be discussed and the issue that triggered the initial protests – and all those previous – discuss in an adult rational fashion. The state must take the blame for what it has done to this country and it must acknowledge the utter failure of forcing 30 million aliens on the UK then it must do something about it. That going to mean the repeal of laws.

    If it doesn't and just smacks the protestors down… then it's the same as addressing the screaming of a man in pain by gagging him.

    1. Until we get lockdowns – like we got during the fake pandemic. "For our own good".

      Except that these lockdowns and restrictions will be ignored by a particular sector, which is the sector that seems to get away with literally murder, while the people of this country are punished. Various people and institutions, particularly in or from the US of A (spawning ground of BLM, woke and other gifts to Western humanity) will be rubbing their hands in anticipation of more.

  25. Swimmer Luana Alonso removed from Olympic village for creating ‘inappropriate’ atmosphere
    Paraguayan, who quit sport following her elimination from the Games, has been suspended from athletes’ living quarters

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/olympics/2024/08/05/luana-alonso-swimming-paris-olympic-village-2024/

    The article is extremely reticent about what she actually did do to create an 'inappropriate atmosphere'.

    After the pornographic opening ceremony which celebrated anti-Christian blasphemy and sexual perversion I must say that her 'crime' was probably to declare that she is exclusively, heterosexually straight and is a devout practising Christian.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5f3f3ebac2f88830a351a6e6bdc0fec2a9080107750d7f73e00a4681022a41fb.png

  26. Some proper political analysis of the riots from the Count who dissects the media's coverage of the events that have unfolded. He explains why the Anglos appear to have had enough and analyses "cause and effect" in his own inimitable way. I just don't understand why the BBC employs Lineker when this man is so more incisive. He harks back to a time when you could rely on Scots to tell it like it is.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63DE6bpYInc

  27. Good Morning all. Rather gloomy day here in West Sussex. It looks like rain is going to visit at some point this morning.
    I notice that todays Telegraph (Masked Muslims ‘stand guard’ at mosques) entirely misrepresents what the Muslims are doing. The below video is more accurate. Thank god for the internet because the MSM seems to spend its time misinforming and gaslighting us rather than accurately giving us the news.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6TXheInjCY

  28. Moh and I have just spent half an hour watching Olympic medal surfing from Tahiti!!

    Yes Tahiti, beautiful sea , large waves , lots of boats , mountainous green background , sunshine , no sharks .

    American female won a gold medal for riding the tube, another language for surfing the large waves (inside)

          1. One might not regard them as sports, but the standard of what the participants achieve is extremely high.

          2. So what, Sos, Surfing, Break Dancing and Skateboarding are hardly Olympic Sports.

          3. If it was up to me I'd have two sets of games.
            Those that can be measured objectively: faster, higher. stronger. eg running, swimming, jumping, lifting, fighting, scoring.
            And those that are subjective and decided by judges eg diving, gymnastics, fancy bike riding .

            By and large I enjoy both, as I am constantly staggered by the levels of balance, suppleness and spatial awareness as well as the physical matches.

          4. Break dancing, that is certainly depressing but surfing should have been included in the Olympics years ago. It is most definitely a sport, it requires skill, strength and timing to an extraordinary degree. To me this is much more incredible than skiing. You are standing on a board no special foot holds and no poles to help you balance with tons of water bearing down on you that will kill you if you do it wrong.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma67yOdMQfs

          5. I agree it's a sport, but it's another one where deciding the winners is very subjective.

    1. "WE" Are not mad. All that has happened, and is about to, can be laid at the door of the Political Elites and their masters.

  30. Russia sends air defences to Iran. 6 August 2024.

    Russia is delivering advanced air defence systems and radar equipment to Iran in preparation for a major escalation with Israel.

    The move came after Tehran requested more arms from its ally, Iranian officials told The New York Times, following a visit from a senior ally of Vladimir Putin on Monday.

    Iran calling in its debts. They must be serious about fighting. How far will this go? Who knows? Will Russia and China just sit it out? Doubtful I would have thought. Time to stock up.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/08/06/israel-hamas-war-latest-news43/

    1. The atrocities being carried out by Russia against Ukraine bear an extraordinary resemblance to those being carried out by Israel against Gaza. Both cite provocation to justify a mass bombardment against civilians and infrastructure; the only difference I see is over scale. All involved parties too have sets of allies who are attempting to keep a distance, but not too convincingly.

      Some, like Turkey, are sitting on the fence and hedging their bets both ways. Others, like Iran, are involved in both conflicts, on the side of the major player in one theatre and the minor player in the other.

      In this tangle of alliances, a WW1 situation is blowing up. WW2 in contrast was more clear-cut. An analysis of the complexity of the Syrian Civil War might be helpful to appreciate what is going on.

      1. Russia against Ukraine.. Israel against Gaza. same same.

        Serves the Ukrainians right for chanting.. "From the Black sea to the Okhotsk.. Ukraine shall be free". And wanting Russia wiped off the map.

        1. With Iran calling on Russian aid and Israel already backed by the US, it won't be long before a contretemp erupts into a face-off between Russia and the USA. Hence WWIII and nuclear exchanges.

    2. Iran/Israel is where WWIII will start.

      Who knows how long before it escalates into a nuclear holocaust?

      1. I have long felt that it starts when Israel launches a pre-emptive nuclear strike on Tehran.

        The only nation ever to date to have mounted a nuclear assault in anger on an enemy city is the United States of America.

  31. "WE" Are not mad. All that has happened, and is about to, can be laid at the door of the Political Elites and their masters.

  32. Good Moaning.
    And it is.
    MB has seen North Berwick bathed in sunshine!
    We're all dooooomed.

  33. As somebody posted on another site, once we are through this we should put a statue of Enoch on the fourth plinth in Trafalgar Square. Really rub the left's noses in English conservatism.

  34. The Canine defence lass was lovely and made a silly fuss of both Mongo and Oscar and proclaimed them healthy and happy. she was pleased Lucy had gained weight and more was now curious and moving about more.

    Both boys were very good with her, Mongo, because he is an idiot was a bit more in her face, Oscar, because he is a rescue was more nervous as can be imagined. One wonders if he thought he was going as she arrived.

    The foster family Lucy was to go to are having problems with the man in the couple in hospital with an asthma attack, so the poor girl is with us for a bit longer. She went for her first walk yesterday with everyone and of course, the great beast decided he didn't want to after five minutes so we all sat around waiting for him to forget, so Lucy and I forged off on our own and she listened to my rambling whinging with stoic consideration.

    More she ate a whole bowlful of proper dog food and then went to Mongo's for some more (as he'd wandered off) so gave her another half bowl and some biscuits.

    1. 391068+ up ticks,

      Morning Ped,
      THAT has to be the hostilities nation anthem, good on yer.

  36. Same old story with UK politics they are useless and stupid. It never changes. Well it changed a bit with Maggie but look at what they did to her. And Enoch for that matter.

    2. There were some good calls into Vine this morning nearly every person who rang in supported the demonstrations.
      He was pulling his usual faces of disapproval.

    3. I've had a bus pass for a few years and finally got to use it on the 4th July as photo ID.

  39. 'Morning All
    Can you imaginet he grinding of teeth every time Starmer hears or reads the soubriquet "Two Teir Keir"
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8d1c28df64b49ab32b145fc45760d734f9e13a75b0a47641a1af03b6ae1cb723.jpg
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    1. I hope the idiots in Waste-monster see this, it sums up exactly how the people of the UK feel.

    1. 'X' is also unwatchable – continual demand to login and then they screw up the process. I give up!

      1. You must be doing something wrong. I logged in months ago and haven't bothered to log off since then. No problem at all.

        1. I cannot understand, Johnathan. I’ve logged in several times and it comes up with me being logged in but then it reverts to wanting another login. Strange.

          1. Have no idea should cause that. Perhaps you can find a trouble shoot site on line for Twitter?
            Just discovered that if you go on google and type in ‘Twitter troubleshooting’ several videos come up.

  42. I don't recognise any university I went to from that description. The academics also had to go out and get contracts to fund their research, so knew all about the commercial side.

  43. Because he is a not very bright WEF Useful Idiot. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence would be a little more savvy on how to infiltrate this country into claws of WEF diktat.

  44. From the BBC.

    'X owner Elon Musk has been criticised by the government for suggesting a civil war is inevitable in the UK – Justice Minister Heidi Alexander called the remarks "deplorable"'

    These are the bastards who supported the bastards who told us millions would die if we didn't follow lockdown orders and accept untested vaccines, with the total support of the MSM.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cw5yyynpwnzt

    1. Here we see a hyperbolic use of language. "Deplorable"? One might disagree, but deplorable.? Yet another brick in the wall of distrust. Strange.

    2. Here we see a hyperbolic use of language. "Deplorable"? One might disagree, but deplorable.? Yet another brick in the wall of distrust. Strange.

    3. If the government continues its policy of denigrating the native people of this land then that will happen. Unfortunately Elon is going to be right.

          3. Nah, Pet. Tools are useful implements. I have a workshop comtaining hundreds of them and every one has much more use than any Lefty (or their leader),

    3. Andrew Marr is a strong contender for the Gold Medal in the Total Pillock competition in the Olympics.

  47. GB News: A startling Press Conference by lawyer representing family victims of police at Manchester Airport!

    4. Is this a new lawyer after the Lamborghini grifter stepped aside or has he returned to the fray since the riots started?

  48. Man charged over Facebook post ‘stirring up racial hatred’ during riots. 6 August 2024.

    Nick Price, director of legal services, said: “We have authorised West Yorkshire Police to charge Jordan Parlour, 28, with using threatening words or behaviour intending to stir up racial hatred.

    “The charge relates to alleged Facebook posts between 1 August and 5 August in connection with the violent public disorder across the UK. It is extremely important there should be no reporting, commentary or sharing of information online which could in any way prejudice these proceedings.”

    Thus does Freedom pass away.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/06/southport-stabbing-protests-britain-terror-law/

      2. I love the Left's arbitrary abuse of the word, "misinformation".

        It's as thought the muttonheads actually believe that their creed is good and proper and anyone explaining that it is anything but is somehow guilty of spreading 'misinformation'!

        There's nowt so queer as a deranged Pinko.

      3. Since when have misinformation, disinformation and fake news all been synonyms for the truth?

    3. Nick Price? That's a Welsh surname, so I wonder if he is related to his recently charged compatriot?

  49. Reg number on the motorbike which so discombobulated Sky news yesterday!
    ANPR THIS! Says it all! They’re untouchable!

  50. Over on Free Speech we have articles on heaven and earth. Iain Hunter's superb piece in his series on climate change points out that the sun has a mjaor impact on climate! And down to earth, we have a piece on the Establishment's blight of dear old Blighty

    Freespeechbacklash.com

  53. We've been to the tip this morning – very busy there. Then we needed some fuel. Stopped at the filling station. OH couldn't remember where the button/lever was to release the fuel cap. He's getting these little memory lapses now. Fortunately (as it was his car and I didn't know where the button was and I've never driven his car) one of the young chaps who work there was able to show him where it was.

    1. Oh dear, although it could be a side effect of his medication.
      In any event, you should be learning, organising & writing down all those details which will help either of you when one becomes less capable: the wills should be updated, look at a power of attorney and/or having joint accounts, manage utility accounts' passwords etc, car maintenance schedules, central heating tips(?), frankly any admin task that your OH usually carries out.
      Look at gadgets like Tile, which are good for locating keys and missing people. Perhaps create some video or voice recordings about his memories and his family history, the sort of anecdotes that may be interesting to the next generation. And request what the NHS calls 'proxy access', https://www.nhs.uk/nhs-services/gps/gp-services-for-someone-else-proxy-access/what-is-proxy-access/
      Finally, some de-cluttering.

      2. Yes – we had a discussion this morning about wills and power of attorney. We do need to revisit our wills, and I suggested we discuss POA with his nephew (and executor) who will be here for a visit next week. It is time to set these things in motion. We’ve each got our own accounts, plus the joint one for household expenses.

        He stopped taking the statin a couple of weeks ago, though who knows if that’s the culprit or not. I’ll have a look at the ‘proxy access’.

      3. My problem is passwords and logins.
        I'll have to get a small book and write them down – then, the problem is to keep them updated as the paswords change!
        Things like internet banking and the like are the important ones, also the password to unlock the PC where a lot of info is retained. Useful for SWMBO once I am out of the picture.

        1. I already have a little book.
          I don't use the same password throughout.
          Apart from anything else, the 8 letter reminder is a hassle.
          Character 2. Character 5. Character 6. etc….

    2. I don't have a button to release the fuel cap, but today I couldn't manage to get the key to go fully into the lock so I could unlock it and turn the cap. It took me ages and in the end I had to accept help from the bloke behind in the queue or I'd have been there all night. My hands and wrists are getting weak and the arthritis in my hands is getting worse.

  54. Nick Price, director of legal services, said: “We have authorised West Yorkshire Police to charge Elon Musk, 53, with using words that offend the Establishment, and commentating on the behaviour of the UK police that suggest they are in some way not impartial."

    2. Surely offending the establishment isn’t illegal?? And anyway look at all the evidence of partiality. I hope that is a spoof!

    3. Oh my goodness, "Offend the establishment?"

      It continues to be my life's mission to offend the establishment.

  55. Nick Price, director of legal services, said: “We have authorised West Yorkshire Police to charge Elon Musk, 53, with using words that offend the Establishment, and commentating on the behaviour of the UK police that suggest they are in some way not impartial."

    1. My brother's lovely late parents-in-law were lifelong committee members at the local Conservative Club. They were dedicated to the cause.
      My brother met his wife, one night while attending that club.

      They have two adult sons who attended Manchester University; those sons were seduced by the dark side.

      My brother and his wife voted Labour at the recent election, having been 'turned' by the warped rhetoric of their sons.

      Knobs!

      Harold and Enid will be squirming in their graves.

    1. Possession is nine tenths of the Law but

      'tis an unweeded garden,.
      That grows to seed; things rank and gross in nature.
      Possess it merely.

      (The Gloomy Dane)

  58. Poser: How can Starmer be deemed a "useful idiot" (for the WEF) when he is beyond useless?

  59. Escalation is good.. it can only get better by getting much much much worse.

    IMHO, it is preferable that Two-Keir doubles down every single day..
    instructs GMP to drop charges against Brothers Fahir Amaaz and Muhammad Amaad. Then,
    arrests WPC for inflicting wound onto right hand of Fahir Amaaz. Then,
    puts out InterPlod arrest warrant for TR.

  60. First person charged with ‘stirring up racial hatred’ over Facebook posts

    A man has been charged with intending to stir up racial hatred relating to alleged posts on Facebook, the Crown Prosecution Service said.

    Jordan Parlour, from Seacroft, Leeds, is the first person to face prosecution for posting allegedly criminal messages linked to the riots.

    Around 400 people attended a protest in Leeds City Centre on Saturday.

    Nick Price, director of legal services, said: “We have authorised West Yorkshire Police to charge Jordan Parlour, 28, with using threatening words or behaviour intending to stir up racial hatred.

    “The charge relates to alleged Facebook posts between 1 August and 5 August in connection with the violent public disorder across the UK. It is extremely important there should be no reporting, commentary or sharing of information online which could in any way prejudice these proceedings.”

    He will appear at Leeds magistrates’ court on Tuesday.

    Andy Lee
    just now
    Yet the Gaza protestors in Central London didn't have 'behaviour intending to stir up racial hatred'…
    Two Tier Kier should be ashamed

    David Bailey
    just now
    Should have been Mr 2 tier

    Comment by DaveNewWorld IV.

    DI

    DaveNewWorld IV
    just now
    Has King Charles not said anything yet, as his thoroughly divided kingdom burns?

    Comment by Robert Mawby.

    RM

    Robert Mawby
    just now
    Why aren’t the police standing on the beach at Dover arresting the ILLEGAL immigrants and the government fast tracking them through 24/7 courts instead of just piling them into 4* hotels at £7million per day?

    Comment by Tony Griffiths.

    TG

    Tony Griffiths
    1 min ago
    How about taking a few of the more violent passages from the Quran and putting them on Facebook. How would that work out?

    James Fraser
    1 min ago
    All this is just going to give two tier Kier and excuse to introduce new draconian laws

    Comment by Steven Jones.

    SJ

    Steven Jones
    1 min ago
    Is this designed to extinguish hate and riots? Or to intimidate those who challenge the narrative? Including comments here?
    I don’t know what this man said – it may well have been truly objectionable and directly inciting racial violence, but it does make one wonder.

    Comment by Barnold Riggings.

    BR

    Barnold Riggings
    1 min ago
    Careful DT, todays it’s Musk, then it’s other SM, then the comments section and finally it’s you….

    Comment by mike hinden.

    mh

    mike hinden
    1 min ago
    So for 9 months and before, all those running through the streets shouting death to the Jews and infidels weren't prosecuted. More proof if needed that 2-tier policing is firmly in place.

    Comment by Willow DePieps.

    WD

    Willow DePieps
    2 min ago
    “The charge relates to alleged Facebook posts between 1 August and 5 August in connection with the violent public disorder across the UK. It is extremely important there should be no reporting, commentary or sharing of information online which could in any way prejudice these proceedings.”
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    The Daily Faragraph should now act to end/remove any further comments by readers on this story.
    Contempt of Court Act 1981.

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    Comment by Tim Poole.

    TP

    Tim Poole
    2 min ago
    Wokeby is Satan himself.
    We're he in the catholic church he would be excommunicated by the Pope.

    1. The Idiot King is fully behind the government's decision to wipe out Englishness. Why else is he so in favour of both the WEF and Net Zero?

      1. It's quite shocking, really, the disrespect – however true. Nobody would ever have written such a message about the late Queen or her husband.

      2. The Idiot King is either stupid (we already know that) or in complete hoc to the WEF because he doesn't care about this country and its people. Or both.

        His mother, the sainted QEII, often appeared to care more about the people of the Commonwealth (especially non-white people) than the people of this country.

    2. “Stirring up hatred”.

      English is a beautiful and precise language and our not-even-tenth-rate politicians come up with this as an offence.

      It is literally incredible.

    3. The fake pope Bergoglio actually excommunicated Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò for speaking out against the NWO/WEF/UN agenda.

  61. Starmer is failing his first major test
    The grotesque violence on our streets is unacceptable. But politicians are doing too little to ensure it won’t erupt again in future
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/05/starmer-is-failing-his-first-major-test/

    James Giggins
    13 min ago
    The so called “white working class” have had enough of the left wing adoration of a discredited multi cultural Labour dream that has left them trailing behind in ignored now demonised communities. Politicians of all colours have no clue as to what this is really all about, without in any way defending the violence and destruction. Unless and until the white working class grievances are listened to and acted upon, this horrendous situation will be repeated as the inevitable backlash and reaction to the left wing and their media appeasers.

  62. Oh dear – skateboarding! Very brave and quite clever but stupid names for the various moves and awful commentators. The only 5 competitors I’ve seen have all lost the board part way through!!

  63. During five days in 2010, the year that Labour lost the general election, nearly 20 separate edits were made to Lammy's ­Wikipedia page, with material added that flattered him.

    A moderator on the website battled against the changes, stating that the 'page needs ­protecting'.

    The moderator added: 'I suspect the edits may be coming from the Lammy office or a 'Close Supporter'. '

    The edits could be traced to two sources: a user called 'Brownsymeon', who only ever edited Lammy's page and whose account has since been deleted, and an IP address in Westminster.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13712457/EDEN-CONFIDENTIAL-David-Lammy-class-error-degree-worlds-best-used-online-encyclopaedia.html

    Lammy…Second class. About sums him up.

    2. Afternoon Phizzee. Sadly Wikipedia is not what it was or set out to be. The institutions have destroyed both its independence and integrity.

      2. It's a shame that Encyclopædia Britannica doesn't have an easily-accessible, independent and user-friendly online site.

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    A week ago we attended an informal occasion, a beach picnic, in glorious summer weather at beautiful Vitemölla on the east coast of Skåne. This was to celebrate the silver wedding of two good friends. Two large torte (cream cakes) in the shape of a 2 and a 5 were baked by their daughter.

    That daughter, who lives in Germany and works at a large EU edifice in nearby Luxembourg, also brought with her dozens of bottles of a white sparkling Champagne-type wine that had a prominent EU label on them There was also a non-alcoholic alternative. The non-alcoholic version was quite palatable but the 'real' stuff was like drinking fizzy vinegar.

    Her father told me that the EU bought in countless hundreds of crates of the stuff for the use of their staff. However, none of the top rankers (I think I've spelt that correctly) touch the stuff. They buy only top-notch appellation controlée vintage Champers for their own use.

    3. It's not just the immigrants spitting in the faces of the British but the whole establishment, especially the Labour party, which long ago abandoned the poor people that were the reason for its founding.

      And Max and Lammy will never discuss the possibility of deporting Hamas activists in the UK. They're too scared of the likely reaction from the peaceful Palestinian protesters.

  71. Tim Coles, regular contributor and generally sound on most subjects, bookended by a pair of half-wits.

    SIR – The rioters have been described as "far-Right", but I doubt that these dreadful people have any interest in politics as it is understood by the majority of us.

    They are simply hooligans who do not themselves deserve the British citizenship they would like to deny to any individual born beyond our shores.

    Bill Davidson
    Balderton, Nottinghamshire
    ________________________________________

    SIR – Nick Timothy (Comment, August 5) accuses Nigel Farage of appearing "to revel in anticipated vindication" by warning that the initial disorder in city streets would get even worse. I suppose when you have spent decades being reviled for foreseeing problems and understanding the mood of the country, it might be a tad tempting to say "I told you so".

    Perhaps, however, rather than shooting the messenger, it would be worth listening to him. After all, Margaret Thatcher saw off the National Front by being seen to take control of our borders. I wonder when the penny will drop.

    Tim Coles
    Carlton, Bedfordshire
    ________________________________________

    SIR – Nigel Farage has condemned the riots , but his "just saying" comments over recent days have not helped the situation.

    He should have addressed those who were breaking the law, while falsehoods were spreading across social media. That would have been the behaviour of a credible statesman.

    Larry Sequeira
    Croydon, Surrey

  72. The Telegraph timidly suggests that the authorities should listen (but note the limp reference to 'Palestine').

    Sir Keir Starmer's unexpected first test

    The Prime Minister will offer more than harsh words if he is to resolve the underlying causes of these riots

    Telegraph View • 5 August 2024 • 9:00pm

    The people responsible for the rioting that has blighted English towns from Doncaster to Weymouth over recent nights and days are the mobs who have been engaged in these disgraceful disturbances – and those who have incited them. Sir Keir Starmer is right that they must feel the full force of the law.

    But this does not mean there are no underlying causes and concerns that have helped to create the conditions which enabled agitators to inflame existing tensions. After the Brixton and Toxteth riots of 1981, Mrs Thatcher's government, while robustly dealing with those who broke the law, understood that there were deep-seated issues which needed to be tackled.

    Then home secretary William Whitelaw appointed law lord Leslie Scarman to conduct an inquiry into what sparked the appalling scenes in Brixton. Lord Scarman's report concluded that inner-city decline, racial discrimination and heavy-handed policing had contributed to a powder-keg situation where any incident could lead to a breakdown of civil order. This, of course, in no way excused the behaviour of the rioters.

    After the Toxteth riots later that year, then environment secretary Michael Heseltine took business leaders to Liverpool to show them the extent of urban decline Merseyside was facing. Out of this came the Tories' ambitious plans for urban regeneration via development corporations, the most successful of those bringing about the rebirth of London's Docklands.

    Mrs Thatcher's government was anything but a soft touch, but it realised that law and order was not the only response that was needed to the riots. Sir Keir's government should not be frightened of taking a similar approach.

    The Prime Minister will not have expected such a crisis within a month of winning his resounding majority. He is now facing the ignominy of having Indonesia and Nigeria – not noted as the safest of countries – warning its citizens of the dangers of travel to the UK. Sir Keir will be judged as much on how effectively he can handle a crisis as how successfully he implements his Government's longer-term plans.

    What are the underlying issues today that online rabble-rousers have been able to exploit? Clearly the level of immigration, both legal and illegal, is the foremost concern. Just as Mrs Thatcher's government, against its own instincts, did acknowledge that overly confrontational policing could exacerbate tensions, Labour must be willing to go out of its own comfort zone.

    The Prime Minister must come up with a realistic plan that will convince the public that immigration is under control and being well managed, something he has not so far done. It will be no easy task: successive governments over the past 20 years have failed in the endeavour. But it may prove essential if societal tensions are not to further deteriorate.

    There is also a perception, whether true or false, that protests by the white working class are treated more harshly than other public agitation, be it by anti-Israel demonstrators or Just Stop Oil activists. What we have seen over recent days involves rampant law-breaking: police vans have been set ablaze, shops looted, bricks thrown at mosques. Violence and intimidation have been at the very heart of these riots, when the majority of those attending Palestine solidarity marches have no criminal intent whatsoever.

    Nevertheless, if the perception of two-tier policing is not addressed such beliefs will only become more strongly entrenched. The Government and police chiefs – including the Met's Sir Mark Rowley who, when challenged on concerns over two-tier policing, grabbed the journalist's microphone – seem unwilling so far to address these concerns. This is not tenable.

    There is also a perceived lack of openness from the authorities. In the initial days after the deaths of three young girls in Southport, the police did not communicate well the progress of their inquiries. This may have allowed false information to spread on social media, exploited by malevolent actors. Clearer, early statements by the police are a matter of national importance, and could help avoid the worst of the disturbances.

    Mrs Thatcher is not someone Sir Keir will naturally turn to for inspiration. But in this instance the Prime Minister would do well to study the Iron Lady's nuanced response to the 1981 riots. To do so would not be a sign of weakness.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2024/08/05/sir-keir-starmers-unexpected-first-test/

    1. Lady T's approach was acceptable because the rioters were black. The intersecionalist fallacy dictates that all ethnic Europeans are oppressors and all non-Europeans are victims. Our family dog when I was little took the same approach. Mum and Dad played a game with him to see what would happen. Dad pretended to hit Mum and the dog jumped up barking frantically at Dad. Mum then pretended to hit Dad and the dog still jumped up and barked at Dad.

    3. "There is also a perceived lack of openness from the authorities."
      Indeed, leave an information vacuum, and you can be sure someone else will fill it for you, and not to your advantage, either. Then, you've lost control of the narrative and will forever be playing catch -up. After all, as the man said, "a lie is away down the road before the truth has it's shoes on" (or something like that).

    4. "There is also a perception, whether true or false," … No "perception" – it's obvious from the various news feeds and Two Tier's hypocrisy – kneel for BLM, beat up the mythical "far right" thugs. Riot police at demonstrations by white people, no police at all in Birmingham last night!!

    5. "The Prime Minister must come up with a realistic plan that will convince the public that immigration is under control and being well managed …" No, he actually has to DO something about it, not just put out some words.

  73. Sir Keir has only just started.. lots lots more to come.
    Wait till he & Sue Grey get their hands on CBDCs & gait-recognition CCTV (latest infrared version).

    1. 'gait-recognition CCTV'.

      If we all start sashaying along the street they will not be able to tell us apart. Though the downside is Owen Jones might make a pass at you.

      2. I already have 4 gaits. Left knee playing up. Right knee playing up. Both knees playing up and my more rare gait when neither knee is playing up.

  74. Sir Keir has only just started.. lots lots more to come.
    Wait till he & Sue Grey get their hands on CBDCs & gait-recognition CCTV (latest infrared version).

  75. Interesting article about rubbery goo that could potentially be used as a treatment for human knee cartilage problems.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/05/scientists-invent-goo-that-regenerates-cartilage-in-joints/#comment

    But as usual it's the BTL comments that hit the spot:

    John Morley:
    Hyaluronic acid has already been used as a control arm on some Phase 3 randomised controlled trials for Chronic Lower Back Pain . Whilst it had some efficacy you achieve much better results when used as a combination therapy with adult mesenchymal stromal cells. I do agree it has utility as a scaffold and as a method by which other cells can migrate to areas of inflammation. It also helps to keep a joint hydrated rather than drying out when internal fluids leak from the joint. I suspect the scientist have stumbled across internally generated immune responses which can be accelerated by autologous or allogenic cell harvesting then being injected into the joint. edited

    Reply by Chris Baldwin:
    Yes that’s what I thought

  76. Hitting back this afternoon the billionaire posted a video of a gang in balaclavas waving Palestine flags storming The Clumsy Swan in Birmingham , where windows were smashed and drinkers were attacked last night. Musk tweeted footage of the pub attack and tagged the Prime Minister with the caption: 'Why aren't all communities protected in Britain, Keir Starmer?'

    What attack? Didn't see it on BBC or Sky. Disinformation obv.

      1. I noted the verb 'marched'. They weren't marching, they were marauding aggressively and violently, some with weapons. All very intimidating. Were there any arrests? Nope.
        And starmer has announced the muzrat cult buildings will benefit from taxpayer-funded security, and he has confirmed none will be available for Christian churches or Jewish synagogues. The latter are at particular danger from starmer's muzfriends; has he forgotten the deliberate targeting last year of Jewish people, schools and synagogues in North London? Liebour at its normal anti-Semitic type.
        And never mind the real danger to British girls and women from these 'people.'

    3. From their Facebook page…

      The Clumsy Swan
      teSordsnpo1364722782a6h1ficg3406ggi6tf8g39l3gi3349173it8ahga ·
      Hi guys thanks for all the messages of support we are all safe after yesterdays trouble from mindless thugs using any excuse to go out causing trouble in the community we would like to thank you all for your well wishes and a big thank you to those at Sheldon mosque who have reached out to us with apologies from there community and offer to pay for damages hopefully we will have no more trouble on the streets of birmingham we are proud of our multi cultural city and lets keep it that way again from sue and all the staff and customers we thank you all for your support xxxx

    1. The time is twenty-to-nine, 20:43. I'm reporting you for improper use of the electronic communications network… Section 127 of the Communications Act.. a comment that is grossly offensive and menacing character over a public electronic communications network.

      Everybody should know by now statistics are an evil menace and can be used to stir up racial hatred.

      1. Darling , they can do what they like with me .

        I am past caring , I have done my bit , and am furious that after a short childhood in colonial Africa and experiencing horrid things , now am shocked that the natives are dictating policy here in the UK

        Lock me up , do or die , kill or cure .. I am me ..

        Rule Britannia ..

        Bah to the lot of them .

    2. The time is twenty-to-nine, 20:43. I'm reporting you for improper use of the electronic communications network… Section 127 of the Communications Act.. a comment that is grossly offensive and menacing character over a public electronic communications network.

      Everybody should know by now statistics are an evil menace and can be used to stir up racial hatred.

    3. 'Transparency data

      Small boat arrivals – last 7 days

      Updated 6 August 2024'

      I've searched for the Small boat "Departures" data with no success.

  78. Politicians should carry out the will of the people not the other way round as is happening now. I have never known such a grave situation as we have now. I blame the politicians not the people. He needs a plan B.

  79. Politicians should carry out the will of the people not the other way round as is happening now. I have never known such a grave situation as we have now. I blame the politicians not the people. He needs a plan B.

    1. I totally agree. We need a senior judge to oversee Starmer and his rag bag government of gangsters, a Lord Scarman type , someone prepared to ask the appropriate questions and to seek a pause.

      I remember the Brixton riots in 1981 when I lived in Clapham Common. I also witnessed other riots including Croydon and its spin-offs which extended to leafy Wimbledon.

      Of course Starmer is the wrong ‘leader’ at the wrong time. Starmer’s position as Prime Minister and attendant massive parliamentary majority is blatantly unearned. Therein lies his problem, no one likes him, no one sees him as a leader and most of us despise second rate lawyers in any event.

      1. 391068+ up ticks,

        Afternoon C,

        There should be signs up in the polling stations Do NOT feed & give succour in any way to ferocious lab/lib/con coalition animals

      2. I said just before the election that it would be the most hated government ever. I'm still shocked that so much has happened, so soon. But looking at that front bench horrow show…Dread to think what is next in store. How is it right that this group of inepts can have power over us and our beautiful country for another 4 years plus?

        1. Yes, it's the speed of the change that is so stunning.
          And on a mere 20% of the total electorate.
          So 80% either don't want this government or are indifferent to it.
          I know it's been yonks since a government has won 50%+ of the vote, but this current one is on exceptionally shaky ground.
          (Just checked, you have to go back to the 1930s – on a turnout a good 15% higher than last month.)

      3. I think "second rate" is a bit charitable in Two Tier's case – this is the man who caused some of us to think that CPS stood for "Couldn't Prosecute Satan"!

  80. Crocodile eats hero doctor
    ‘Hero’ doctor’s last act was to prevent wife falling into river after him

    Andrea Hamblin
    6 August 2024 • 10:55am

    A “hero” doctor whose body was found inside a crocodile saved his wife before being eaten, it was revealed on Tuesday.

    Dr David Hogbin’s wife Jane recounted the “wonderful” father of three’s last act was to let go of her hand so she was not pulled into the Annan River, in Australia’s Far North Queensland, where the 16ft crocodile lay in wait.

    “David touched so many people’s lives that everyone deserves to know who he was and how it all ended for him,” Mrs Hogbin said.

    “I want to put a face to this tragedy – someone didn’t just get killed by a crocodile, we have lost a wonderful husband, father, son, brother, friend and doctor.”

    She added: “Dave was just the most calming, grounding person to have around in a crisis, and he was so loving, thoughtful, handsome, fiercely loyal and protective, and intelligent.”

    David Hogbin and his wife, Jane
    David Hogbin had three sons with his wife, Jane
    Police confirmed on Tuesday that rangers had killed a male saltwater crocodile found two miles from where the 40-year-old disappeared, in Cooktown, on Saturday. Human remains were found inside the animal.

    Dr Hogbin’s parents, Kym and Peter, and siblings Chris, Mike and Bec, said they would make sure his children knew “how brave he was – he was a hero”.

    He and his wife had been enjoying a caravan trip with their three young sons when “everything just changed within 30 seconds”, as part of a walking trail collapsed.

    The riverbank was “five metres high – well out of a crocodile’s striking range,” his sister-in-law, Alexis Carey, said, but Dr Hogbin lost his footing and fell into the water at a spot known locally as “Crocodile Bend”.

    “Despite being tall, strong and fit” the slippery and steep conditions made it impossible for him to get himself out of the water, Ms Carey said.

    David Hogbin
    Mr Hogbin's wife described him as a 'wonderful' husband and father
    “But Jane was nearby, and after hearing the splash, she slid down to desperately try and pull Dave out,” she said.

    “Due to the steepness and slipperiness of the bank, she was able to grab his arm, but soon began slipping into the river herself.

    “Dave’s final, decisive act was to let go of Jane’s arm when he realised she was falling in, despite knowing she was his only lifeline. Within moments, he was taken.”

    The family said Dr Hogbin’s “brave decision in that terrifying moment very likely saved his wife’s life, ensuring she was able to return to their boys”.

    “He saved me – his last act was to not pull me in with him,” Mrs Hogbin said.

    The family corrected earlier reports that Dr Hogbin had been fishing at the time of his death, stressing that he was “cautious by nature” and “acutely aware of the dangers posed by crocodiles”.

    It followed media reports that authorities were investigating a video showing people illegally throwing off-cuts of fish to feed a crocodile seen in that area of the river.

    Three people have died in crocodile attacks in Australia this year, including a young girl who was killed while swimming in the Northern Territory and a teen boy who was killed while swimming in Queensland.

    Re

    1. How awful for the wife and family to watch the man disappear and be caught by a crocodile.

    2. All honours to the man for not holding his wife down. That must have been truly awful for her, as he got grabbed and pulled under.
      I grew up in Northern Nigeria. One didn't play with, or in, water (unless it was a swimming pool), as crocodiles often lurked there, and poisonous snakes, too. I'd have hoped that the Aussies knew not to swim in rivers, too.

    2. In UK, now, taxes are the price we pay to import, house, feed and arm an Invading Army

  83. Excellent, Sue..we've had similar. Think it depends on who feeds the dog/s (in our case, me 'Mum')

        2. "A progressive family man".
          Is that a chap who progresses from one family to another?

          1. Their children were conceived by IVF and fertility treatments, a side of his story that can be used to attack Republicans on reproductive rights.

            I find it strange that progressives like them would not accept their infertility.
            They would rather encourage the killing of unwanted children rather than adopt them.

  87. We currently have 1.2 million households in Britain on local authority waiting lists

    and if we include the native brits, how many will be needed

  88. Just finished a tedious bit of tidying – when the heavy drizzle arrived. Excellent excuse for returning to my novel!

        2. More confirmation….. North Finchley Percy Road. No idea why.
          I lived in Whetstone for a couple of years. And used to go to pubs in Finchley.

        1. Nottlers could stitch together all your Bon Mots and fill the spaces with nonsense then self publish. Oh…you've done that already !

          I still have a signed copy. Cost me 5p. :@)

          2. Err.
            Reading glasses sitting on top of your head?

            I still have a signed copy. Cost me 5p. :@)

    1. Welby defiles the church he is chief prelate of. He is a disgrace to the Anglican church.

    1. 391068+ up ticks,

      O2O,

      The chap with the dark tan could very well be in for compensation.

      How is the victim, traumatised no doubt and that will be carried into adulthood but as many have been told by their betters she should have kept quite for the sake of diversity.

      1. 391068+ up ticks,

        Afternoon Pip,
        Don’t knock it Pip I still see it as 48% of the peoples ( maybe not so many now) are agin us freedom
        independence seekers,we need ALL the help we can get.

        1. Afternoon Oggy. Not knocking it but how can one trust someone worth $200 billion? They can buy countries !

  91. Gosh – proper rain – I can seethe waterbutts filling nicely. Very useful. First rain for over two weeks.

    1. Still sunny here. We've had a couple of outbreaks of overnight drizzle in the last few days but nothing to put any useful amount in the waterbutts.

      1. Thank you – for the last couple of days I hadn't even got the word, although I had four nearlies…

      1. Wait 'til you see me in a few days time – you do NOT have permission to call me Vic! xx

  93. That's the Van MOTed, no problems, the spare wheel removed for a new tyre, to pick up tomorrow and a bit of shopping done in Belper.
    Got jobs to do and trying to work myself up into a frenzied state of apathy but the effort is proving too much!
    I think I'll go to bed for an hour or so.

    1. When my van went in for its MOT 18months ago it needed a lot of work, brakes tyres and nearside suspension (pot hole damage) due to low mileage, the owner of the local garage had been asking me often if I wanted to sell. That time I did. A weight off my shoulders. He certainly didn't waste any time making it more comfortable for him and many alterations. He doubled the 56 k millage in 15 months. He runs a disco from it as well.

    5. The new Regional Manager of UK Ltd, a totally owned subsidiary of the WEF, is congratulated by one of the Senior WEF Directors.

          1. The press, there’s a clue in that word, should be keeping it in the public eye. At the moment they’re playing the government tune.

          2. Perhaps journalists will start coming under fire and we will need to do a prisoner swap. A la Russia.

  99. "In a clip shared online, a man on a motorbike sped up behind Becky Johnson of Sky News as she reported on hundreds of Muslims who were forming a protective ring around a mosque in Birmingham."

    The man shouted: “Yo, free Palestine, f— the EDL” before three others approached the camera, prompting Sky to cut away and send security to the reporter."

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/06/home-office-minister-under-fire-after-excusing-masked-thugs/

    Who will they commission to do the f***ing of the EDL?

    Whoever it is it will have to be a necrophiliac as The EDL ceased to exist over ten years ago!

  100. I gather Two Tiers is still declining to apportion appropriate opprobrium (say this six times quickly) upon our rioting and armed Abrahamic cousins.

    1. …. apportion appropriate opprobrium (say this six times quickly) ….
      With or without your teeth in?

  101. Thank you, Michael Deacon.
    I really needed a good laugh.

    "The smack of firm government
    To the best of my recollection, at no point does Yes Minister show Sir Humphrey Appleby striding through the Department of Administrative Affairs dressed in a latex gimp suit. Then again, the programme was made in simpler, more innocent times. Were it to be remade today, the writers would at least have to consider it.

    Because, according to claims by Whitehall sources, a civil servant has taken to turning up to work in outfits that look “almost like fetish gear”.

    “It’s highly inappropriate attire,” one anonymous mandarin complained to a newspaper. Apparently, several Whitehall colleagues have expressed the same concern. Meanwhile, a Conservative peer, Baroness Jenkin of Kennington, has tabled a written question in Parliament, asking the Government to state its official policy “on civil servants wearing fetish clothing in the workplace”.

    No doubt many readers will have been taken aback by this story. Surely, however, the surprise is not that a civil servant should dress in such a fashion. It’s that other civil servants should object to it.

    After all, today’s civil servants normally love to promote inclusivity in the workplace. Many, for example, wear rainbow lanyards to work, in order to signal support for the LGBTQIA+ communities. When Esther McVey, the Tory MP, suggested in May that they should stop wearing these lanyards, there was a furious outcry.

    In light of this, complaining about a colleague’s alleged taste in fetish-style clothing seems not just cruel and narrow-minded, but downright hypocritical. If our modern and compassionate civil service wishes to demonstrate its solidarity with marginalised sexual minorities, then it must surely do so for those who like wearing fetish gear.

    To this end, I propose that all civil servants should henceforth be required to come to work wearing nipple clamps, ball gags and rubber catsuits. Sir Simon Case, the head of the civil service, should lead by example, by attending Cabinet meetings in nothing but a leather posing pouch, and equipping all Whitehall departments with handcuffs and spanking paddles. The civil service cannot claim to be truly inclusive until he does so.

    It’s just a shame that these important measures will come too late for Priti Patel. When she was Home Secretary, Dame Priti faced an inquiry into allegations (which she denied) that she’d bullied civil servants. Sir Alex Allen, the independent adviser who led the inquiry, ultimately found that she had “not consistently met the high standards required by the ministerial code of treating her civil servants with consideration and respect”.

    If I were her, I’d have explained that I wasn’t bullying them. I just thought they enjoyed being humiliated."

    1. There used to be 'dress-down Friday' where casual clothes could be worn instead of a suit. Perhaps the Civil Service should have 'Fetish Friday'. Trouble is, probably none of them goes into work on Fridays (or any other day of the week).

      1. That's a job i could do….SLAP. Grow up !. SLAP. Get back to the office !. SLAP. Stop your whining. SLAP. Fuck off back to Pakistan !

  103. Take a deep breath…

    'We would consider bringing terrorism offences' – top prosecutor

    Suspects charged so far have faced allegations including violent disorder, which can lead to five years in jail.

    Some other suspects who have been arrested are being assessed for the more serious charge of rioting, that can lead to ten years. Those charging decisions will take a longer, the Director of Public Prosecutions Stephen Parkinson tells me, because of the nature of the crime and the evidence needed.

    "There are sentencing guidelines which indicate that many people who have been caught up in this disorder will face immediate imprisonment. There should be no doubt about that. They are going to prison. We are willing to look at terrorism offences. I'm aware of at least one instance where that is happening.

    "Where you have organised groups planning activity for the purposes of advancing [an] ideology… planning really, really serious disruption then yes, we will consider terrorism offences."

    Muslim Council of Britain: 'Communities feel terrorised'

    Muslim communities in the UK feel "terrorised", the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) says, as it called for calm following a week of disorder unfolding in several UK cities.

    Zara Mohammed, the organisation's secretary-general, says her phone has been "jammed with calls" from people scared to leave the house and from faith leaders unsure whether they should open mosques. A police investigation after the Sunderland riots on Friday revealed a plot to commit arson on a mosque, she tells me.

    "Muslim communities say they are feeling terrorised. They really are targets," Mohammed says. "But what has been really heartening is the pushback from communities who have cleaned up the mess, come together and said: you're not welcome here."

    The MCB is not advising mosques to close, but to be vigilant. Speak to police, review security measures, and carry out a risk assessment, Mohammed advises.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cw5yyynpwnzt

    1. Now they know how people feel about them.

      Well Zara, what are you doing to protect the Batley teacher from your own murderous terrorists?
      What are you doing about your anti-Israel marchers, don't you think Jews have fear?

      1. That Batley teacher is about to be labelled as an Is lamo phobe, so he and his family deserve to be treated as terrorists according to Labour's new policy.

    3. An interesting quote from the DPP.
      Perhaps someone should remind him that, at the moment, it is the courts in the shape of Magistrates, Judges and juries who have the responsibility of finding people guilty or not guilty and for the judge or magistrate to sentence.
      Perhaps Cur Kneeler has told him that courts are being closed and the CPS with gather evidence, prosecute the defendant and find them guilty as it's a lot cheaper than the old way.
      Heaven help us, it just gets worse and worse.

  104. Good afternoon Ladies and Gentlemen from an overcast with occasional bright bit Verwood.
    I had a little bimble around Badbury Rings earlier (after bacon, natch). The house in the distance is Kingston Lacey, the National Trust property and part of the Badbury Rings complex.
    Somehow our ancestors have inhabited this area for 10,000 years with narey a whiff of Diversity.
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    1. Nice looking place you have. I like the Union Flag flying – though, of course, that is now a hate crime…

      1. You do know they have just stopped his Winter fuel allowance ! He will just have to burn tax inspectors and there is never much meat on them. Just a lot of fat.

    4. " with narey a whiff of Diversity" until the bluddy Danes turned up .

      It was Humphrey Littleton when presenting a programme from Newcastle who pointed out that in the light of the Nordic invasions the local women folk, the subject of rape, had adopted a saying that those men: "Should be bloody well hung like a Norse!"

    6. Love your photographs , you ought to wander over this way to the Purbecks !

      I sometimes walk spaniel at the back of Pamphill , down the long track ..

      We used to live over there and know it very well . No 1 son used to play village cricket all over Dorset .

      We were living there during the great storm of 1987 , when many of the cedar trees and beech tees were damaged on the Bankes Estate and infact everywhere , we lost our power for five days !

      So much devastation , thousands of trees down , our old wooden (1930's green houses blew down , roof tiles on house etc )

      1. It is a beautiful part of the world, and not too shoddy where you are now.
        I was in the Channel on the Minerva following a Soviet 'trawler' during that storm.

    1. Well, I would put it the other way round actually. The Olympics is a measure of how much one is prepared to go along with the agenda and turn a blind eye to satanic symbols, insulting Christianity, child abuse etc
      Finally snapping after several generations of watching their daughters, sisters, nieces, cousins etc being gang-raped, tortured, disappeared or murdered is nothing to be ashamed of.

    2. The skin colour of the 'rioter' is almost exactly the same as the blonde lady. I think the cartoonist is just going along with the narrative and that the Molotov cocktail wielder is a far right white extremist using the English flag as patriotic camouflage.

      1. That’s the intention, but I disagree re the colour, her face is much lighter, at least it is on my screen.

  106. A striking Birdie Three!

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    2. Good one! Par here.

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    3. Well done, par here.

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        1. thank heavens I tied you, I would have been at a loss after that wild guess.

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    3. Probably just a mild dose of the Clap.

      Did you hear that Miriam Gargoyles is suffering?

      It was another day for Claps.

  110. 391068+ up ticks,

    I do believe these current political overseers deserve a deck of cards status, am I right in hearing Tommy Robinson is " Hiding out in Malta" this is just short of putting a bounty price on his head.

    All these court appearances are they ALL white indigenous or is there any deeply tanned real terror mongers ?

    1. The Met work closely with Hope Not Hate and their activist thug team..

      Payments given to Hope Not Hate
      Freedom of information request reference no: 01.FOI.22.023135

      I note you seek access to the following information:
      Please can you inform me what information if any, does your office hold in relation to any
      1) Payments given to Hope Not Hate, Nick Lowle and its employees and or its sister organisation, Searchlight, run by Gerry Gable.

      Some data has been withheld as it is exempt from disclosure
      The Metropolitan Police Service will disclose whether payments were made to Hope Not Hate and Searchlight.

  113. I've just spotted another government wheeze in a Talk TV clip Labour Government is Not Bothered by it. The idea is to remove migrants from hotels, and make local councils house them in student blocks and ex-care homes, and make councils pay for it out of council tax. Bait and switch.

    1. We've already got a lot of "asylum seekers" holed up in a former care home. Every Friday they pour into town and turn it into a cross between Mogadishu and Dhakar.

      1. If it happened he'd go somewhere safe like Venezuela or Colombia or possibly even more lefty, like Canada

  115. Nicked
    "So basically, within 48 hours, Elon Musk has become the sole opposition party to the government and Labour party.

    A multi-billionaire, born in South African and now American with no ties to the UK or England has basically shown us that the Tories are an absolute shower of shit and a complete waste of space.

    Give the man a standing ovation and all his drinks are on the house, I say!!!!"
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    'Night All

    3. I must say it is difficult for me to believe that people like him can be so totally disconnected. It does beggar belief. Has he ever had a conversation with someone where his views didn't over run what someone was trying to explain him. Oh…yes i remember Gordon Brown when he didn't realise his mic was still on.

      Jesus fucking Christ.

  116. That's me gone this damp afternoon. Very handy drop of rain – particularly as we irrigated thoroughly yesterday evening, so today's rain landed on already nicely damp soil. Feel rather pleased!

    Have a splendid evening avoiding arrest.

    A demain.

      1. I agree but try Sosraboc. He is much more ..er…how do i explain..erm.. ah…er….

  117. Charley Hull: Olympics smoking ban may hurt my chances of a gold medal
    Englishwoman says smoking helps her control symptoms of ADHD, with which she was diagnosed last year
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/olympics/2024/08/06/charley-hull-smoking-ban-golf-gold-medal-paris-2024/

    As a public school schoolmaster I decided that my pupils needed some bad influences as well as the sanctimonious good ones.

    I played in the Masters Cricket XI against the boys and when the masters were in and I was not batting I smoked in a deck chair outside the pavilion with a pint of bitter in my hand while correcting essays or reading a novel; and when the masters were fielding and I was not bowling I selected a quiet spot deep behind mid-off where I could suck away at my Benson and Hedges Special Gold cigarettes.

    I also played in a rugby team composed of a mixture of masters and the school's 1st XV leavers against the following year's expected 1st XV and at half time I arranged for one of the boys in my house to come onto the pitch with a silver salver bearing a packet of cigarettes, a lighter, an ashtray and a gin and tonic.

    The headmaster was not impressed but the boys didn't mind! And what a shame that Starmer is determined to end all that sort of thing.

  118. Begone, dull care! by Benjamin Britten
    Background Information to the Song
    About the song
    In 1934 Benjamin Britten wrote a series of 12 songs for the school in Wales where his brother
    was a teacher. These songs, called Friday Afternoons (that was when pupils had their singing
    practice), started a long process of writing music for schools and Britten’s lifelong interest in
    music for young people and in music education. Britten set to music text by many different poets
    and authors. The music always illustrates beautifully the mood of the text. All the songs are accompanied by the piano.
    • Begone, dull care! is one of the Friday Afternoons songs. The text was written by an
    anonymous artist in the 17th century, and was published in a book called English Lyrical
    Verse (The King’s Treasuries).
    • In the 1920s and early 30s, children sang mostly nursery rhymes and playground chants,
    and folk songs with simple accompaniments. When Britten composed these songs, they
    would have felt very contemporary to the children, just as it does when we sing the latest
    pop songs at school today.

    Begone, dull care!
    I prithee begone from me;
    Begone, dull care!
    Thou and I can never agree.
    Long while thou hast been tarrying here,
    And fain thou wouldst me kill;
    But i' faith, dull care,
    Thou never shalt have thy will.

    2. Too much care
    Will make a young man grey;
    Too much care
    Will turn an old man to clay.
    My wife shall dance, and I shall sing,
    So merrily pass the day;
    For I hold it is the wisest thing,
    To drive dull care away.

    3. Hence, dull care,
    I'll none of thy company;
    Hence, dull care,
    Thou art no pair for me.
    We'll hunt the wild boar through the wold,
    So merrily pass the day;
    And then at night, o'er a cheerful bowl,
    We'll drive dull care away.

    (For too much care is health and strength's decay;
    And too much thought, it wears the mind away.
    Then away with gloom and sorrow,
    And merrily pass the day,
    For I hold it one of the wisest things
    To drive dull care away.)

    Used to sing that at school, funny how all the old reassuring British folk songs have gone and are now forgotten .

        1. Well………..Me, Nigel Farage and Hitler share the same condition. Obviously i am a Nazi. I can't be doing with all that marching around with my arm in the air covered in milkshakes though.

          You coming to my party. That's a lower case 'P' BTW.

          1. I'd like to Phizzee but I have another engagement due to 'Management'…..But thanks for the invite. One day we'll get to share some wine!….

          2. So that's two people who have refused because of prior engagements. You and Suella Braverman.
            Obviously something going on there……………… :@)

            Michael can send you some pics. Actually scrub that. I will post the CCTV facial recognition pics.

          7. When was that, Sue? I don't remember and it will be v different if I shaved the top lip.

          10. Ooh Sue…Why didn't you correct his posture !!!
            He still looks looks lovely though. Just like a grandfather about to leave me all his money…ahem.

          14. More freckles i suspect.

            My neighbour said to me last week she forgot i had freckles as they all appear this time of year. I said i didn't forget you have very big tits. That's just me. :@(

          18. Pttooohie ! It's bad enough using post- it notes on the non gluten free stuff !!!

            There was a time where people came, they ate, they drank and then shit the following morning . And got on with their lives.

            Given the er…make up of the party i expect many of them will be wearing face coverings. If only the triple ply napkins i stole from John Lewis.

          20. I'd like to Phizzee but I have another engagement due to 'Management'…..But thanks for the invite. One day we'll get to share some wine!….

    2. They are so obvious aren't they? They don't care any more. They want War and civil War to give them more power. No wonder they don't feel comfortable in Waitrose any more.

    4. Many wives are critical of their husbands but many husbands wouldn't dare to challenge or criticise their wives!

  121. The Climate Change Act 2008 >> George Soros.

    The four key individuals behind the Climate Change Act 2008 which Soros wanted were all given Soros jobs. Tony Blair, David Miliband, David Cameron and Lord Adair Turner.

    Lord Adair Turner is a friend and employee of Soros and has managed Britain's transition to Net Zero for 14 of the last 16 years except for an interval when he worked for Soros. As the first chairman of the Climate Change Committee from 2008 and then the chairman of the Energy Transitions Commission from 2016. The remaining 2 years were covered by other friends of Soros on the Climate Change Committee…

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/9963050/Lord-Turner-forms-unlikely-alliance-with-Soros.html

    On top of which the new chairman of Ed Miliband's new British Energy, Jurgen Maier, is a friend of none other than George Soros' street level fixer Lord Andrew Adonis.

    So it's a Happy Soros Family looking after and nurturing George Soros' Climate Change Act 2008 and Legal Net Zero 2019 which was also financially sponsored by Soros!

    1. I hope they choke on their mess of potage and go to the Hell they deserve to.

  123. Finally some good news….(The Grimes)

    Scotland
    "Islamophobia may force me to flee UK, says Humza Yousaf"

    Former first minister says the rioting has left him feeling ‘absolutely horrendous’

    6. Bless you Yousaf. Don't let the the door slap you on the arse as you leave.

    11. The trouble is that those who say they will go – and you want them to go – stay; but those whom you would like to stay go.

    1. Simply in a different league from little Keir. We've got a gradgrindian suit running the country when we require a statesman with proper vision. Pity really.

        1. I once tried to read it, given I live opposite a house where Dickens once lived. I admit, he’s not my favourite author.

          1. I definitely have a copy on a bookshelf, but sadly it’s not one I’ve read! Pickwick Papers is my favourite!

          3. I find with Dickens you just have to let go and roll with the reams of description.

          4. Most of his novels originally appeared in serial form. I think that accounts for the verbosity.

          5. Yes spot on. That's entirely it. He had to fill space and the style suited the era I would think too. It probably looked like proper escapism from the everyday grind.

            I'm not a fan of modern novels by any stretch, in fact I bristle whenever I see one. But if you are into them, someone like Dickens must appear like an alien. I'm currently ploughing through Mick Herron's Slow Horses series, which is a rare activity for me. It's a very good yarn, I like it. There's a lot about it I love besides its overall idea; however, I loathe the format, which is in keeping with everything else I see in modern writing. It's usually chunked down into paragraphs where you hop from several points of view to others over the space of a single chapter. A sort of novelistic plot striptease in which by the end you realise you've been doing a jigsaw that never had much of a picture once it was completed. It is basically a TV series storyboard fleshed out to look like a novel, albeit I'm sure the books must have come before the TV series. A lot is lost in modern novels. Give me Dickens, Trollope, Asimov, Zamyatin, Cornwell or someone like that any day. The only one who I can remember did the Modern Literary Striptease well while achieving some semblance of plot depth was Terry Pratchett. There might be others, but I'm unprepared for searching through the dross in order to get to it.

          6. It’s a popular choice for schools as it is a relatively short book. OH had to study it for O’level.
            Dickens at his best is marvellous but Hard Times is very far from being his best.

          7. Bleak House is one of his better ones……….. some great characters there. And the interminable lawsuit.

        2. I think so:

          "A materialistic and philistine outlook, marked by a focus on practicality and efficiency, often at the expense of creativity, empathy, or intellectual curiosity."

          Leaving aside his motivation that about sums up his character and m.o. don't you think, Sue.

          3. Oh yes, we do indeed. There are nowadays good facts and unpalatable facts. Only trouble these days is that the unpalatable ones tend to be whitewashed out of view by the sensitivity readers and fact checkers so keen on their jobs these days.

    2. I'm afraid that just like Enoch was, Nigel will be one of the best prime-ministers we never had.

    3. nah.. escalate it to the inevitable tipping point for all out civil war. Like in 1653 send in the military to parliament and purge the rump.
      Then commence the deportations of the seriously unpleasant.. must be at least 40.. 50 may be 100,000.

  125. as I feared. I do not “live my best life”/go to the gym/clean the house when I am bereft of family. I watch trash TV (which I never normally do) and drink wine. I am currently eating a lot of Christmas cake.

      1. My mum makes me two a year. One for Christmas and one for my birthday(in April). They are delicious. Mums are amazing (though I am a bit ropey).

        1. Mums are indeed wonderful! I miss mine 20 years on, and hope I’m nearly as good at the job as she was!

    2. I absolutely understand how you feel MIR.
      After all my recent visits to various different out patients departments, and over night stays, feeling distraught with my conditions. And seeing people who are obviously in a far worse state of health than I am. It's a bit of a wake up call when I see dozens of people who are far worse off than I am.
      You're lucky to have Christmas cake.
      One of my favourites, all I have is a few chocolate biscuits. 🤔🤗

      just sayin'

    3. Don't have family. save for a few cousins. who I meet annually. Remained friends with former partner. Now based in Devon, she used to visit and stay here regularly, en route to hairdresser in Guildford / friends in Surrey / theatre etc in London. I'm close to a rail station.

      I would defer to the corner sofabed, so she could have the only bedroom. I'm up at least two hours earlier than her, so it made sense. Now, she's met someone, at the age of 72. She's "in love". I'm genuinely delighted for her.

      And now I have my life back, since the multitude of daily phone calls, texts and WhatsApp messages have dried up.

      Since she was the only visitor here, I opined that my house "would never be cleaned again". The impending visit of an electrical subcontractor to review fans for the new landlord, means that all is now clean and bright.

      And I'm knackered… 🙄

      1. I'ml lucky, Geoff, I have a very efficient young lady who comes and 'does' for an hour or two once a week. She's marvellous.

    5. I don't go to the gym or clean the house with or without family! I am without family mostly, but I do get a visit from a surrogate daughter who is very good to me and cheers me up no end. I would have adopted her, but she was over 18 so it wasn't possible.

    1. Shame you can't make the party. Too far i know but i like feisty. Annie Allan will just have to represent the women who are actually women even if our Sir Two Tier Kier Farkwad can't work it out. I will post pics for you from A&E where the guests are recovering from food poisoning. © Bill Thomas.

  127. 391068+ up ticks,

    May one say IMHO,

    There really should be, echoing rhetoric down the English valleys
    I AM TOMMY ROBinson

  128. Another day is done, so, I wish you a goodnight and may God bless all you Gentlefolk. If we are spared! Bis morgen früh.

  130. Pretty Polly posted. Perhaps you are blocked, or you have blocked her.

    “The Climate Change Act 2008 >> George Soros.

    The four key individuals behind the Climate Change Act 2008 which Soros wanted were all given Soros jobs. Tony Blair, David Miliband, David Cameron and Lord Adair Turner.

    Lord Adair Turner is a friend and employee of Soros and has managed Britain's transition to Net Zero for 14 of the last 16 years except for an interval when he worked for Soros. As the first chairman of the Climate Change Committee from 2008 and then the chairman of the Energy Transitions Commission from 2016. The remaining 2 years were covered by other friends of Soros on the Climate Change Committee…

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/9963050/Lord-Turner-forms-unlikely-alliance-with-Soros.html

    On top of which the new chairman of Ed Miliband's new British Energy, Jurgen Maier, is a friend of none other than George Soros' street level fixer Lord Andrew Adonis.

    So it's a Happy Soros Family looking after and nurturing George Soros' Climate Change Act 2008 and Legal Net Zero 2019 which was also financially sponsored by Soros!”

  132. I was just changing the covers on my sofa and caught the “chandelier”. A moment later all the bulbs in both chandeliers in the lounge went out. I have checked the trip switch and nothing there. Luckily dad (85) is down on Friday so hopefully he can help.

    1. You may have loosened a couple of bulbs, try checking they are all tightly in place.

    3. . Sometimes an individual circuit breaker can fail, or the screw connectors might need tightening.
      You could try testing each circuit breaker by pushing the breaker downwards, then up. Then try the little push button test switch. Also worth switching off & on the main OFF/ON switch, in case something happens. But it's probably a loose connection in the chandelier.
      Sorry that's quite muddled, but definitely worth checking before Friday.

  134. Musk is saying that civil war in the UK is inevitable.
    He forgot one thing
    Blair preempted this years ago by taking away all the guns

    3. It was Dunblane that precipitated that action. With hindsight was Dunblane (another incident that shocked me to the core and that I can remember exactly where I was when I heard about it) a fortuitous incident for Blair or a deliberate act to provoke the reaction from the public in order to ease the removal of hand guns?

      Many years later I read that Clinton had advised the removal of handguns in order to achieve his (their?) aims.

      We do still have guns, just not the genre known as handguns.

      1. Now somebody has killed three little girls with a blade, maybe there should be a country-wide ban on machetes and stabby knives, in the same way as after Dunblane?

        1. Almost anything can become a weapon in the right hands. It is not the weapon that does the deed, but the person that wields it. Qv (the wonderful) Theodore Dalrymple and "…the knife went in…"

          1. Indeed, but for most folk it's made easier by having a blade or a firearm to hand.

      2. They are making it increasingly difficult to get a shotgun licence these days. I thought it was significant that the documents on Dunblane were sealed for a hundred years rather than the usual thirty.

  135. They called him Two Tier
    Cos it rhymed with Sir Keir,
    And for when others ate hearty,
    Of cake, he screamed Party!
    But all's okay if you only drink beer

  136. After the Olympic opening ceremony which was in bad taste to say the least, a Spanish group have decided to take action. They have decorated a bus with the slogan "Stop attacks on Christians" which has been circulating in Paris these last few days – clearly about the Olympics as the Olympic rings are there (see photo below). Yesterday, the bus was stopped by the police who went on board and were astonished to find that the suspected protest group consisted of… just the one driver. When the police requested to know who had painted the slogan on the bus, six people eventually turned up. They were duly arrested for "organising a demonstration without authorisation" but were released this morning as the judge decided that one bus did not make up a demonstration.

    Two-tier policing is all over Europe. Here in France, for the moment at least, the judiciary is still reasonably independent. Long may it last.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3b7242743d73cc7f38dc849a2f06efefffcc4e39ef76168c19c61ddaeaeeff90.jpg

    The bus is supported by CitizenGo ("formed by 17,680,776 active citizens, stopping radical lobbies from imposing their agenda on society" according to their website) who posted this on X about the arrests (the short video on the right is in English) :
    https://x.com/CitizenGO/status/1820857953164898453

    1. Arrest Christians for asking people to stop attacking them? How does that work?

      1. It works by asking the question AA: is this on message or off. Seems it was decidedly off message as far as the police were concerned.

    2. Good for them. This is nearly in the same league as arresting a Christian for silently praying.

    4. Good to see other people in Europe are starting to demonstrate how they feel about what is going on now.
      This could go on for decades as did the invasion of Spain by the 'moors'.
      I believe that Muslims have already made it clear that they will attack us and kill as many people as they can.
      Our police forces are running scared and of course as is usually the case.
      blaming everyone else for the problem they have forced upon us all.

  137. Came across this (as you do) whilst thinking of UK government lies about the rioting and it's causes. Seems appropriate.
    Isaiah 5, 20: “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter.”

    1. Our political classes are fat too stupid to understand anything as logical as that Obs.

    2. Re-watched Pulp Fiction again recently, the character Jules (Samuel L Jackson) quotes Ezekiel 25:17, confess I had to look it up..

    5. I pass that quotation on a trailer parked on the side of the road every time I go to Shrewsbury! It keeps reminding me how true it is in this day and age.

    2. I too have been sitting around all day. It is not good for the soul. Or the body. But I was tired after a busy weekend and pre-weekend. And I am somewhat depressed, Churchill's black dog has been taking up residence on my shoulder. I am prone to this affliction, depression and I were well acquainted during my twenties and thirties, indeed as a child from time to time.

      1. I'm sorry that you have the black dog visitng, PM. What kind of works with me is to be social, but then I'm no bloody good at that, either. Maybe that would work for you – a few good friends round for tea or wine, maybe?
        Suffering that way myself, since the medics can't seem to stop me from keeling over at the most inopportune moments – just waiting for it to happen when walking downstairs… and it's destroying my confidence, so it is. Pleasures must stop – such as a few beers in the pub, or driving. Bummer.

        1. I am so sorry – it is life changing for you and adaptation to a new regime is hard, perhaps the stress of your mum and everything that that entails has precipitated your syncope attacks – it is a case of finding simpler pleasures in other areas, discovering new skills for example photography with a proper camera, perhaps? There is a whole world to photograph from every angle out there.

          I am not particularly sociable either, I am an 'only child' and never learned the skills of joining in and making friends, I am a solitary person although I do enjoy the company of like-minded people, on Nottle for instance, and people who get to know me say 'but you are so friendly – your problem is you are just shy!' And I also live in an area which is well-known for its social coolness.

          2. I might as well be an only child. My brother is 10.5 years older than I am. I am happy with my own company, but enjoy socialising. I usually manage to make people I chat to laugh, so I must be doing something right. I suffered from stress induced depression and nearly ground to a halt. It was so bad I had to give up work.

        2. I'm very similiar, Oberstleutnant, all respects, including what I recently found out is 'syncope' – sorry to say I don't know what alleviates it, nothing found as yet. I do have an actual black dog who freaks out if I'm not with him, so he's worse than I am. My dad suffered from depression, could be genetic, or possibly a learnt condition. Whatever, we're not alone 🙂 As kind as I'm sure you'll be to others, be kind to yourself too.

          1. You have syncope? My cause is heart failure – just stops beating, and wham! I’m down. Fitting a pacemaker helped for 18 months, but now not so much. Trying to get a review of the pacemaker, but hospital slow in responding. Meanwhile, life is curtailed – won’t drive, won’t swim, won’t operate machinery… not even allowed to get pissed 🙁

          2. We are on different ends of the scale, mine doesn’t compare to yours in any way…caused by sudden drop in blood pressure from standing too quickly which doesn’t happen now as older and move more slowly. Some dizziness, is about it, have learned to watch out for it. I hope they respond soon, some people seem to get treatment more quickly by presenting themselves at A&E. It’s really disgraceful what seems to have happened/be happening in parts of the NHS (have a number of different narratives from people I know)…good luck, Oberstleutnant, hope you get seen soon x

          5. I haven’t mastered “elegant”, and bearing in mind my age, I suspect I never shall. Think “sack of coal”…

          6. Don’t believe it for a sec…on my part, do you watch Big Bang Theory – the episode where Penny realises she’s spending too much time online, think she finds a piece of bread in her hair and eats it….that’s the look I’m heading towards :-DD we shall age gracefully together……

          7. Was never very excited by BBT. Penny was cute, though.
            Gracefully… there’s a challenge!

          9. I found the following advice re: syncope

            lie down until the dizziness passes, then get up slowly.
            move slowly and carefully.
            get plenty of rest.
            drink plenty of fluids, especially water.
            avoid coffee, cigarettes, alcohol and drugs.

            I’m fully onboard with the first four….the last one under consideration….. think the second ties in with your advice, I’m practising..:-D

          3. Thank you, Sir J. xx (Awake at two forty flippin’ five…. again. Exactly on the dot. I don’t know how I do it. Every single night.)

          4. Must be a dream sequence sparks it. Find a herbal remedy for sleep. Good luck, Mum.

      3. Snap, pm. One of the great things about getting older is that one does see that even this will pass. I love the bit in "The Catcher in the Rye" where he observes that there is no need to commit suicide, all one has to do is be a bit more patient (paraphrase). Please do not despair! There is always some glimmer of light there in the darkness. even if unseen x

        1. Thank you, opopanax, I know that this will come to an end, it is the living through it that is so difficult, and the not being able to do anything about things (and not just the situation in which we all find ourselves). Yes, patience is the key.

        1. Thank you, KJ, I know now that there is a beginning and an end to everything, nothing lasts forever and this too shall pass.

      5. Re black dogs:

        Only once, did I suggest to a GP that I might be depressed. I was 'outsourced' to an utterly useless organisation, much to my GP's disgust. In my defence, having bought my first property in 1988 at a relatively normal interest rate, that was soon more than trebled. I handed in my keys, but Halifax sold the house that I bought for 56.5k for 12k. Any attempt to come to an arrangement was rejected. They came after me for the shortfall. Bailiffs followed.

        Sadly, they took the Ford Ka that I'd bought for Dianne's daughter Hannah. It was only at my place because it had a severe structural rust problem. Thankfully they overlooked the elderly Discovery, parked outside the Church..

        Many years later, I petitioned for my own bankruptcy. Successfully. Surprisigly, in my case, the black dog disappeared shortly afterwards.

        And I now have a credit reference of 1000. Go figure… 😟

        1. Dear Lord, Geoff…that's quite an episode, can't imagine anyone not having depression/breakdown going through all that. Surprising how a weight can be lifted when you haven't even realised you had it…actually a physical thing. You're one of the good guys, don't you forget it 🙂

        3. Wow. I remember in 1989 my mortgage going up from £200 to £600 and me phoning dad in tears about it. But I was lucky. I got through it. My friends [E] and [R], not so much. They both had negative equity. Dark times indeed. We are still good friends but those days still follow them round.

      6. Sending big hugs, my friend, and the feeling I shall get (fingers crossed!) from dancing with my favourite dance partner later tonight. If you suddenly come over all dreamy and feel like you're floating on clouds, that'll be it 😉 x

      7. Sorry to hear that, pm. If you can, try to get out and soak up some sunshine. Take some St John's Wort and take a break from politics and the news in general.

  141. Just watched Matt Walsh's daily upload for today on which the first item is a report on the events in the UK, which I rather like to note he calls "civil disobedience". That seems to me to be quite a useful replacement for "rioting".

    1. Civil disobedience is an almost benign euphemism for looting.

      "Stop that looting"

      "Won't, shan't!" 😡

    2. Civil disobedience is an almost benign euphemism for looting.

      "Stop that looting"

      "Won't, shan't!" 😡

  142. Sending hugs and good thoughts, pm. Think positive and try happy memories for sleep. 💐

    1. Thank you Sue. I haven't had a good night's sleep since I don't know when. I am overwhelmed by thoughts.

      1. Have you thought of taking a herbal remedy to help you sleep? When your mind is on the hamster wheel, write down your fears and problems. Seeing them in black and white sometimes helps. Cross off the ones you can't do anything about and put down some ideas for solutions to those you can. Then tell yourself you've done all you can and put everything away.

        1. Thank you, Conway – part of the problem is I can’t do anything about any of them – everything is outside my control. I have to sit and wait, and observe. There is nothing like action for making one feel better, but unfortunately I can’t act. I do agree with what you say. Writing it down very often helps. I will write it even though I can’t do anything, seeing it in writing takes it outside oneself.

          1. I hope it brings you some relief. It's very frustrating not to be able to do anything about matters.

  143. The Not-Tories may have nurtured it, but Blair and Straw started it, and Starmer has inherited it. It's a Labour mess alright but Max has certainly nailed his colours to the internationalist, multi-culturalist, anti-British mast. Blair was the most expert spinner and would be playing one side off against the other right now. Max has simply showed his limitations by blaming the 'far-right'. The Blair of 20 years would be riding this out (and, yes, putting off the day) but Max's limitations might well have brought forward the reckoning.

    If there is an Islamist atrocity in the next few weeks, Starmer's reaction will be crucial. If he even hints at 'understanding' with a reference to the last week's events, the army (such as it is in its currently enfeebled state) will probably be on the streets in very short time. If they are, which way will their guns be pointing?

  145. I was an only child – although i like company I am also ok on my own. I'm sorry to hear you're depressed at the moment, and hope it will lift. Some days I don't do a lot – yesterday I certainly needed to rest after the hectic weekend. Haven't done a great deal today, either.

    1. I hope your weekend went well Ndovu, at least the weather was on your side for once this year. It all sounded quite hectic. Most days I don't do a lot either!

      1. It went very well, thanks – I did spend some time people-watching………. some enormously obese people waddling around, some with hideous tattoos…….. but everyone was well-behaved and the event was very well organised. A huge number of beautifully maintained vintage vehicles.

  146. Just listened to tonight's Proms performance of The Fairy Queen and am now off for a bath and bed.
    Goodnight all.

    1. I woz there. Sounded a lot better than it looked. The staging was dreadful but the music was nice.

    2. Fairie Queene? I have given up on the Proms after Barenboim spoke about his support for the EU. I enjoyed the Proms in the seventies and early eighties when living in London.

      I have the vinyls of Barenboim’s Beethoven Sonatas, performances never surpassed in my opinion. You might imagine my disappointment in having to listen to his pro European Union stance.

      1. Sadly, I never got round to going to the Proms despite being stationed fairly conveniently for London at Maidstone during the ’70s.

    3. Fairie Queene? I have given up on the Proms after Barenboim spoke about his support for the EU. I enjoyed the Proms in the seventies and early eighties when living in London.

      I have the vinyls of Barenboim’s Beethoven Sonatas, performances never surpassed in my opinion. You might imagine my disappointment in having to listen to his pro European Union stance.

      1. The line between satire and reality has become so blurred that it's nearly impossible to tell the difference. The first major challenge to the existence of satire was when Henry Kissinger was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, and that was a long time ago.

        1. Followed by the award of the Nobel Peace Prize to the war-pig Obama, probably the second or third worst President in American history.

          Obama remains the President of the USA by the way. Biden was merely Obama’s puppet and Obama the chief puppeteer of the fraudulent Biden regime.

        2. Followed by the award of the Nobel Peace Prize to the war-pig Obama, probably the second or third worst President in American history.

          Obama remains the President of the USA by the way. Biden was merely Obama’s puppet and Obama the chief puppeteer of the fraudulent Biden regime.

        3. Followed by the award of the Nobel Peace Prize to the war-pig Obama, probably the second or third worst President in American history.

          Obama remains the President of the USA by the way. Biden was merely Obama’s puppet and Obama the chief puppeteer of the fraudulent Biden regime.

  150. I’ve just muted Priti Patel on GBN. Never noticed before what an awful speaker she is. No soft g’s on the end of her words. Speakin. Talkin. Wantin. Do-in. Spare me! What has the English language ever done at these people that they feel the need to murder it?

  151. Evening, all, on the Feast of the Transfiguration. Had a lovely service with bright sunshine streaming through the stained glass. No organist so we sang a capella and a fine job we made of it, if I may say – four of us in the congregation, six in the choir (including a young treble), the celebrant and three servers.

    Before I went to church I worked in the garden and managed to remove a tree stump that was in the way of my finishing the new seating area. Felt quite pleased with myself!

  154. There's a little too much 'on the one hand, on the other' and too much use of 'far-right' in this. Nevertheless, it helpfully reminds us of Max's contribution to the BLM debate (I'd forgotten his reference to Trump) while confirming the reputation of Jess Phillips as morally and intellectually underdeveloped. Unfortunately, Grant, although mentioning the abuse Phillips received at the general election, omits her pleadings afterwards: "They were bad because they were men, not because they were Muslims." No, Ms P, it was definitely the latter.

    Britain's moral vacuum is leaving us dangerously vulnerable to more riots

    Our leaders' inability to condemn all forms of violence adds fuel to the fire and erodes public trust

    MADELINE GRANT, PARLIAMENTARY SKETCHWRITER • 6 August 2024 • 5:55pm

    Of all the factors contributing to the public disorder affecting the UK, the easiest part ought to be condemnation. Our leaders should have no trouble calling out any kind of criminality on the streets of Britain – regardless of who is committing it. You'd think so, but no. Elton John might have sung that "sorry seems to be the hardest word", but for some politicians, a simple "this is wrong" is proving much more complicated.

    The recent violence on our streets is inexcusable: thuggery, pure and simple. Destroying your local communities and attacking police officers is thuggery. "Patriotic Brits" do not smash up libraries and citizens' advice bureaux, just as "standing up for Palestine" is no justification for targeting Jewish schools and neighbourhoods. Voicing reasonable concerns" does not involve looting Lush. Not for the first time in British history, alongside peaceful protests and legitimate grievances are opportunistic career criminals hoping to bring violence to the streets.

    It is possible, indeed important, to hold serious concerns about mass migration and cohesion while believing that anyone smashing property and intimidating people has forfeited their right to a fair hearing. Those indulging in violence under the guise of "concern for their community" – of whatever ethnic group – are just thugs. Anyone trying to intellectualise or justify that thuggery is guilty of the same moral relativism as those who might explain away terrorism as an understandable reaction to "Western foreign policy", or shoplifting as a rational response to austerity.

    Extraordinarily, however, such beliefs are widespread among our political and media establishments. This week Jess Phillips, a Birmingham MP, tweeted that a Muslim gang intimidating a Sky News reporter in the city was only there due to misinformation that "racists were coming to attack them". The real blame, she implied, lay with Reform UK MP Richard Tice for sharing the footage in the first place (and thereby sowing division). Some would argue that a mob of masked men threatening a female journalist is pretty divisive in itself; perhaps more than the act of re-posting it. On such occasions we hear a lot about community tensions and the importance of not stirring them. But what about us female journalists? Are we not allowed to be part of the tense community?

    This bears repeating. To a government minister – in the Home Office no less – one violent group are poor, unfortunate, balaclava-clad souls who are mere victims of misinformation, whereas another deserves the full force of the law. This seems calculated to stoke grievances, reinforcing an increasingly provable perception that those in power are neither fair nor even-handed. It undermines rule of law, destroying attempts at containment or social cohesion. Even if the thugs had been somehow 'tricked' into being there, it still wouldn't justify the intimidation of a female journalist. This amounts to an apologia for something for which there can be no apology. It must be called out.

    Phillips, a self-styled "straight-talker" and women's rights champion, has form in outrageous moral relativism. She previously likened the Cologne sex attacks of New Year's Eve 2015/16 (when an estimated 1200 women were molested in a single night by recently-arrived migrants) to women being "baited and heckled" on an average night out in Birmingham. I certainly don't remember my weekly teenage nights out on Broad Street featuring industrial-scale sexual assault, but perhaps Jess knows something I don't.

    Elsewhere there remains a feeling that the problem is primarily one of "optics" or "stage management". Sarah Edwards, the Labour MP for Tamworth, has been pilloried by her own side and even accused of indirectly causing riots by using her parliamentary platform to voice concerns about a migrant hotel in her constituency; as if looters and thugs typically take their lead from Hansard. In reality, had more MPs heeded their constituents' reasonable fears then we might not be where we are today. You sense that some members of the commentariat are happier focusing on the evils of social media rather than anything else. The online world is rife with disinformation of all kinds, some inflammatory, but clumsy attempts to stage-manage the public debate will only embolden the cranks.

    Broadcast media isn't exactly covering itself in glory, either. The BBC cut off retired police chief Kevin Hurley mid-interview in a discussion of the riots, after he cited the stabbing of an army officer in Kent as a recent cause of tension. You don't have to agree with any particular viewpoint to see that closing down legitimate discussion will push people further towards the margins. Then there is the almost comic incident of the Home Secretary being interviewed by her own husband on this issue on Good Morning Britain. No wonder people are turning to social media when the mainstream appears to have so comprehensively undermined its reputation for impartiality.

    It also doesn't help that government figures have sometimes legitimised certain forms of thuggery when convenient. Many Gaza protests have displayed outrageous racism, regularly featuring – in a mirror image of far-right riots – Nazi salutes. The double-standards were on full view during the BLM mania of 2020, when the political class bent over backwards to justify mob violence in certain circumstances. Three days after a retired police captain was murdered during the riots in America, Sir Keir Starmer, then-leader of the opposition, released a statement condemning President Trump's reaction to these "peaceful protests". Absent from his statement was any mention of "far-Left thuggery" and harsh police crackdowns, despite the chaos and vandalism apparent in cities on both sides of the Atlantic.

    I suspect that most people in government and the media know all this. They understand that Islamist-inspired street thuggery is as abhorrent as its far-right equivalent. But they fail to call it out as such for two reasons: one, it is not politically expedient, and two, because they are scared. Phillips almost lost her seat to a pro-Gaza candidate last month: her recent equivocation surely reflects these political realities. However, such apparent cowardice and calculation is not leadership. And it is leadership that this country desperately needs.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/06/britain-moral-vacuum-leaving-dangerously-vulnerable-riots/

  155. Yes, I’ve been in that situation too. It’s truly awful, you wouldn’t wish it on your worst enemy, but actually, thinking about it some people out there might just benefit from a visit from the black dog.

  158. My last thought for this evening – the removal of the winter fuel allowance is so drastic and was obviously going to create such an outcry that I felt there was something more behind it than just saving money. Compared with everything else it doesn't save that much. I feel it was the crack of the starting pistol, designed to raise the temperature and wind us all up for what was, and is (and did) come next; it is also a means by which they can hide winter vaccination deaths particularly in the elderly, the poor souls must be coming up for their eighth or ninth jab this winter, and is it not intended to be combined with an mRNA 'flu jab? So all deaths will be conveniently hidden and blamed on the lack of heating. And the money-spinning vaccines will survive to carry more of us off next year.

    Night night everyone and my grateful thanks to you all for your encouragement. xx

    1. I think we can all be assured that the Starmer government and its allies in the NHS Administration and the many branches of that decrepit organisation have neither our individual best interests nor those of the population at large foremost in their aspirations. On the contrary Instead they pander to Bill Gates and Soros and their joint promotion of supposed Global Health initiatives. By now we know their efforts are an exercise in depopulation of the European people as a whole.

      As regards the removal of the Winter Fuel Allowance this is an indication of the sheer viciousness of these tired old Labour politicians. They have no idea about wealth creation, care nothing whatever for the health and well-being of our elderly and yet after multiple previous failures in government persist with their same old class war follies.

      I predicted earlier and repeat Starmer will not survive after the impending defeat of Ukraine by Russia in the present war. The total investment of the UK in this Ukraine war will have to be written off and the immense debts incurred by such disastrous policies in promoting the war in Ukraine will possibly either break our economy for good or else for decades to come.

      We now have just about the worst, most illegitimate and incompetent UK government in our history in charge.

      The present Front Bench would find it impossible to hold down a proper job stacking the shelves at Tesco.

      Jesus wept.

    2. I think we can all be assured that the Starmer government and its allies in the NHS Administration and the many branches of that decrepit organisation have neither our individual best interests nor those of the population at large foremost in their aspirations. On the contrary Instead they pander to Bill Gates and Soros and their joint promotion of supposed Global Health initiatives. By now we know their efforts are an exercise in depopulation of the European people as a whole.

      As regards the removal of the Winter Fuel Allowance this is an indication of the sheer viciousness of these tired old Labour politicians. They have no idea about wealth creation, care nothing whatever for the health and well-being of our elderly and yet after multiple previous failures in government persist with their same old class war follies.

      I predicted earlier and repeat Starmer will not survive after the impending defeat of Ukraine by Russia in the present war. The total investment of the UK in this Ukraine war will have to be written off and the immense debts incurred by such disastrous policies in promoting the war in Ukraine will possibly either break our economy for good or else for decades to come.

      We now have just about the worst, most illegitimate and incompetent UK government in our history in charge.

      The present Front Bench would find it impossible to hold down a proper job stacking the shelves at Tesco.

      Jesus wept.

    3. I think we can all be assured that the Starmer government and its allies in the NHS Administration and the many branches of that decrepit organisation have neither our individual best interests nor those of the population at large foremost in their aspirations. On the contrary Instead they pander to Bill Gates and Soros and their joint promotion of supposed Global Health initiatives. By now we know their efforts are an exercise in depopulation of the European people as a whole.

      As regards the removal of the Winter Fuel Allowance this is an indication of the sheer viciousness of these tired old Labour politicians. They have no idea about wealth creation, care nothing whatever for the health and well-being of our elderly and yet after multiple previous failures in government persist with their same old class war follies.

      I predicted earlier and repeat Starmer will not survive after the impending defeat of Ukraine by Russia in the present war. The total investment of the UK in this Ukraine war will have to be written off and the immense debts incurred by such disastrous policies in promoting the war in Ukraine will possibly either break our economy for good or else for decades to come.

      We now have just about the worst, most illegitimate and incompetent UK government in our history in charge.

      The present Front Bench would find it impossible to hold down a proper job stacking the shelves at Tesco.

      Jesus wept.

    4. I’ve just read the pieces above from the spectator linking covid conspiracy theorists/deniers to ‘organised networks’ and the rioters. Neat, eh. Basically anyone who doesn’t toe the government line/diktats is to be vilified.

      1. Preparing to villify those with a vengeance who refuse the next vaccine push. Stoking the fires for more division. It will be ‘off to the camps’ with them.

        1. Alf and I have both just had a text from our surgery. ‘you are eligible for flu vaccine and Covid booster this autumn, please book now’. Not ruddy likely thanks!

  159. From Coffee House, the Spectator

    To the rioters, it doesn’t matter that the suspect in the murder of three girls at a holiday dance camp in Southport came from a practicing Christian family, or that he was born in Cardiff and is a British citizen. It meant nothing that his hardworking parents had fled the aftermath of a genocide in Rwanda that led to an estimated 800,000 deaths. That the police had decided there was no political, religious, racial or ideological motive to the killings also meant nothing.

    There is one bright spot in the disorder. Police get the chance to identify the worst offenders and take them off the streets

    As soon as his name was released by the courts, Twitter was full of racist comments. The backlash on the streets was also swift.

    The police have been confronted by ready-made networks, many of which were established to oppose lockdown. They did so in the belief that the covid response was a government conspiracy and have gone from there to share racist views that vary from a desire to control illegal immigration to outright support for Nazi theories of racial supremacy.

    There are no committees behind these groups, who often meet in the ungoverned space of Telegram – or ‘Terrorgram’ as some call the messaging app based in Dubai. They have been organising protests outside migrant hostels for months. The riots are an easy step up from those demonstrations.

    To be sure there has been some incitement from far-right leaders in the Patriotic Alternative and by Stephen Yaxley-Lennon – known as Tommy Robinson – the former leader of a disbanded group called the English Defence League (EDL). Police and MI5 have infiltrated many of these online groups but that does not help them know which ones will turn violent. Public order policing is always, to some extent, a numbers game, and getting the right number of officers in the right place at the right time.

    The police are better trained and equipped than their opponents. They spend weeks in mocked-up cityscapes like the one used in by the Metropolitan Police in Gravesend, in Kent. There, they are confronted by the type of situations they have had to deal with in recent days. Their tactics involve containing or ‘kettle-ing’ the groups and then getting into the crowd to snatch and arrest the leaders or those committing violent acts. However, where they are heavily outnumbered, it is difficult for them to use such tactics successfully.

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    One of the lessons from the countrywide riots of 2011, that originated in the police shooting of Mark Duggan, was that it was important not to stand off such groups for too long. By the time they closed in on riots in Hackney, in east London, businesses had been ransacked and a car was already on fire.

    To stand in the middle of such groups, as I have done, is to hear the desperation and urgency of police officers who are often scared for their own lives, those of their colleagues and those of innocent members of the public. Things can go very wrong very quickly if police get cut off, as they discovered on the Broadwater Farm estate in Tottenham in 1985 when PC Keith Blakelock was murdered.

    One of the challenges is that rioters who know the streets can often disappear and appear again somewhere else minutes later, causing destruction on the way.

    After the 2011 riots, the Home Affairs select committee noted that what ultimately worked in quelling the disorder was increasing the number of police officers on duty and ‘flooding the streets with police’. ‘If numbers could have been increased more rapidly, it is possible that some of the disturbances could have been avoided,’ the report said.

    Her Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary (HMIC) said police made some attempts to monitor social media discussions but their efforts ‘fell short of what is possible using modern technology.’ That has now changed. HMIC also noted that not all tactics could be used in practice due to a lack of equipment and the number of officers deployed.

    Police estimated they needed to outnumber rioters by between three and five to one if they were to make arrests and disperse groups , and that meant that arrest tactics were impossible in some circumstances. Officers and their commanders took action to bring the disorder to an end, but some erred on the safe side, using less forceful tactics, standing their ground rather than going forward to tackle disorder, pending arrival of reinforcements.

    These are the lessons they need to remember if they are to prevent events getting out of hand as they did in Rotherham and Tamworth.

    Police officers are highly trained and their training is repeated every year. But those involved in policing protest ‘consistently place themselves in harm’s way to keep these events safe and lawful,’ as the National Police Chiefs’ Council puts it.

    There is one bright spot in the disorder, in that police and their ‘spotter’ teams get the chance to identify the worst offenders and take them off the streets. That, as Stephen Parkinson, Director of Public Prosecutions, noted on Sunday, will involve extra lawyers working around the clock and, quite possibly, the courts doing the same.

    These riots may feel different in their widespread and political nature, but we have been here before – and not just in 2011. On May Day 2000, 95 people were arrested and nine police officers were injured during far-left anti-capitalist riots in London. That required an extra effort by the courts system to deal with the arrests. We are back in a similar situation again.

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    1. Just curious. Here in Spain where I have lived for nearly fifty years, I was sometimes in contact with young Guardia civil. Some boys trained in anti disturbios units.
      A guy I knew, about 22, had been working in a unit for a few years. they trained in sports in the morning, football, rugby, every day. In the afternoon they would split into teams, good guys and bad guys and pretend to quell riots. That's all they did until they were called to the real thing. the guy I knew assured me they did nothing else, if it wasn't a real riot but terrorist connected, then other specialists would be used.
      It seems to me that these units they're using in Britain are not properly trained.

    2. Just curious. Here in Spain where I have lived for nearly fifty years, I was sometimes in contact with young Guardia civil. Some boys trained in anti disturbios units.
      A guy I knew, about 22, had been working in a unit for a few years. they trained in sports in the morning, football, rugby, every day. In the afternoon they would split into teams, good guys and bad guys and pretend to quell riots. That's all they did until they were called to the real thing. the guy I knew assured me they did nothing else, if it wasn't a real riot but terrorist connected, then other specialists would be used.
      It seems to me that these units they're using in Britain are not properly trained.

    3. Just curious. Here in Spain where I have lived for nearly fifty years, I was sometimes in contact with young Guardia civil. Some boys trained in anti disturbios units.
      A guy I knew, about 22, had been working in a unit for a few years. they trained in sports in the morning, football, rugby, every day. In the afternoon they would split into teams, good guys and bad guys and pretend to quell riots. That's all they did until they were called to the real thing. the guy I knew assured me they did nothing else, if it wasn't a real riot but terrorist connected, then other specialists would be used.
      It seems to me that these units they're using in Britain are not properly trained.

    4. Just curious. Here in Spain where I have lived for nearly fifty years, I was sometimes in contact with young Guardia civil. Some boys trained in anti disturbios units.
      A guy I knew, about 22, had been working in a unit for a few years. they trained in sports in the morning, football, rugby, every day. In the afternoon they would split into teams, good guys and bad guys and pretend to quell riots. That's all they did until they were called to the real thing. the guy I knew assured me they did nothing else, if it wasn't a real riot but terrorist connected, then other specialists would be used.
      It seems to me that these units they're using in Britain are not properly trained.

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