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First!
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻’Morning all!
Morning, all Y’all.
Morning everyone.
Nothing exciting to report from here in the darkness. Grey Christmas forecast (no snow, but a useful metaphor anyway), bars, restaurants, pubs closed from today, masks required everywhere. Joy. Much skepticism and rumbling about all the anti-covid actions, even in the papers who like to lick Labour arse. Hoping for pushback.
What is it about Christmas that the globalists want to destroy every year ?
Here, the first point of attack is always alcohol serving.
Convivial and people getting together and discussing the affairs of the day… which leads to planning and plotting.
Morning Bob. It’s one of the major points of Western Christian Civilisation.
Pushback you say……..
https://gab.com/IncelRiot/posts/107447864087604817
‘Morning Paul
They just want another airlift of free stuff.
Good Morning Folks,
Another mild start here
Lower back pain and ‘scratchy’ throat emerge as symptoms of omicron. 15 December 2021.
Speaking at a briefing Ryan Noach – chief executive of Discovery Health, the country’s largest private health insurer, which was behind the study – said doctors have noted a slightly different set of symptoms among those testing positive.
The most common early sign was a scratchy throat, he said, followed by nasal congestion, a dry cough and myalgia manifesting in lower back pain.
Is this what we should fear?
We have nothing to Fear but Fear itself. Roosevelt.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/lower-back-pain-scratchy-throat-emerge-symptoms-omicron/
It’s like a cold, as the Sarf Efricans have said.
But, panic anyway.
The Farage interview with an SA doctor a day or two ago made it very clear that symptoms there are relatively minor. When I mentioned this to a worried friend the response was “There aren’t many old people in South Africa, so it’s effect is minimal”!
Edit: The same point here…
SIR – In the pharmaceutical world, the significance of real-world evidence versus laboratory evidence is fully recognised. Medicines are approved based on controlled conditions but then often behave slightly differently depending on how patients actually use them. So why are politicians continually claiming to follow the science in imposing restrictions, then ignoring the real-world experience in a largely unvaccinated population in South Africa?
We hear that there will be a large wave of hospitalisations due to omicron. That is not what the real-world evidence is currently showing.
Andrew Holgate
Derby
Update:
https://order-order.com/2021/12/14/south-african-medical-association-chair-omicron-lockdowns-may-do-more-harm-than-good/
Guido Fawkes unreadable even with ad blocker paused – Daily mail the same – the advertisements take so long to load and reload that reading the articles is virtually impossible. I won’t go to either place.
I gave up when it wanted me to disable my adblocker. Eff Orf!
The Farage interview with an SA doctor a day or two ago made it very clear that symptoms there are relatively minor. When I mentioned this to a worried friend the response was “There aren’t many old people in South Africa, so it’s effect is minimal”!
OMG! I have those very same symptoms as I write! The very ones! They started, vaguely, last night! I thought I was brewing a cold! It’s aaagh, COVID !!!
Covid is a winter cold. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Lower back pain? I’ve had Omicron since I was 30, then!
‘Morning, Peeps.
SIR – On Monday evening the Prime Minister announced the first death of a person in Britain with the omicron Covid variant.
There was no mention of whether this person had been vaccinated or had any underlying health problems, or of how old they were. This is scaremongering at its worst.
Nigel Fountain
Reading, Berkshire
Well said, Mr Fountain. Furthermore, we should be given, daily, the number in hospital being treated for Covid. On the rare occasion our local news has included a breakdown by hospital there have been some with no Covid patients at all. Where there are any, however, there is no indication as to their vaccinated status and no reference to underlying conditions. I think we all know why.
Yup, odd how we got inundated with the name, age and photograph of the first person to be pumped with the vaccine.
I posted that here almost word for word yesterday.
And I added that if the person who died was unvaccinated we would have been told immediately just as we would have been told immediately if a person arrested for terrorist offences was a white Christian.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!
“Furthermore, we should be given, daily, the number in hospital being treated for Covid.” – See here, follow the link!
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
Good morning all.
10C & cloudy.
Good morning, Peter (and Missy).
Get The Real Culprit
Little Tim was in the garden filling in a hole when his neighbour peered over the fence.
Interested in what the cheeky-faced youngster was up to, he politely asked, “What are you up to there, Tim?”
“My goldfish died,” replied Tim tearfully, without looking up, and I’ve just buried him.”
The neighbour was concerned, “That’s an awfully big hole for a goldfish, isn’t it?”
Tim patted down the last heap of earth then replied, “That’s because he’s inside your stupid cat. “
Good to have a laugh in these depressing days.
I can’t laugh at a redacted grey block!
Morning all,
Working at home.
Puss is feline ignored and tries to sit on TABby key:
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Looking Lively anyway…………..
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Might be, then again…
‘Morning All
Funny Old World
How quickly we forget,HCQ available over the counter for decades vanishes from sale as if it had never been,Ivermectin extensively used for treating Sars Covid 1 is rubbished with fake trials.Midazolan,a respiratory depressant is suddenly used in industrial quantities……….
It’s almost as if waves of death were the desired effect,listen to this doctor (who also mentions Didier Raoult and his trials) all to set up the jabathon and the passports
https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1470797533878312968
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Now about the Diamond Princess……………..
SIR – I fear that even if the omicron variant causes only mild disease for most people, our death figures will still be seen to rise significantly because we count deaths “with” the virus rather than “of” it. Why do we have to present the figures like this? I do hope that it will not be used as an excuse for further lockdowns.
P J Heard
Wraxall, Somerset
Of course! Transparent data would just undermine the whole thing.
It is a most ridiculous measurement. If Sir David Amess had tested positive, and been asymptomatic, a couple of weeks before he was stabbed to death then he would be in the COVID deaths numbers.
I note scare stories linking Omicron and Delta
They’re trolling us again,the anagram this time??
Media Control !!!!!
#CovidSinisterClownWorld
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Black Swan returns
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I was wondering about the Black Swan only the other day.
‘Morning, Rik.
Good morning, Peter
A tenuous connection here but a song I love:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bG9k2ZsEo8
The new Dark Ages. Spiked 15 December 2021.
If ignorance is bliss, the Western world should be ecstatic. Even as colleges churn out degrees and collect fees, and technology makes information instantly accessible, the basic level of literacy, as measured by such things as reading books and acquainting oneself with the past, is in a precipitous decline. Rather than building a vital world with our technological culture, we are repeating the memes of feudal times, driven by illiteracy, bias and a rejection of the West’s past.
Yes a whole civilisation is collapsing around us. It looks as if the real beneficiary from this will be China
https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/12/15/the-new-dark-ages/
So what you are saying Minty is that all we’ve got left is a Terrified Cottaging Army?
Good Morning.
Morning Stephen, à la Kuenssberg!
This article starts well but ends badly by implying that anti-immigration worries are little more than simple prejudice. If only all the immigrants were properly absorbed; in Europe and the UK they are encouraged not to be.
And then there’s this:
A great friend of mine (more than 40 years) recently spoke of developments in parts of ex-communist Europe as reminiscent of the 1930s. His mother is German and so he is obviously a bit sensitive about the subject. It’s not the behaviour of some football fans in that part of the world that worried him but Hungary and Poland. I told him his fears are unfounded. We didn’t fall out over it. Here lies our dilemma: two countries that wish to preserve their cultural identities and look west to see what mass, unabsorbed immigration does to society. The author ignores this point.
On the increasing ignorance of the modern world: 8/10. On the ‘all hold hands across the oceans’ ideas: 3/10.
Hmmm,colour me cynical the “No Risk” rebellion by MP’s the slight rowing back of Lockdown fanatics like Hodges,Morgan and Neil
https://twitter.com/Francis_Hoar/status/1470888419446378503
Trying to set up a little defence at their future trials for Crimes against Humanity??
The reaction by some students to Rod Liddle’s address leaves me genuinely fearful for where all this snowflakery is going:
SIR – Today’s students seem unable to take a joke or be brave enough to listen to views they find unpalatable.
I notice that one of the student leaders demanding the resignation of Professor Tim Luckhurst at Durham is studying law. As a retired lawyer, I recommend he follows another profession. Listening to unpalatable views and progressing them are in the job description.
John Hanson
Canterbury, Kent
SIR – The Durham students protesting against the decision to invite Rod Liddle to speak at a dinner would do well to apply some logic to their predicament. If it were Mr Liddle’s words which caused offence then they would have offended everyone, but it was in fact their reaction to his words.
To appreciate that one has control over one’s feelings and actions is called emotional maturity.
Luke Cascarini
Beckenham, Kent
SIR – If Durham students are “proud to be pathetic”, as their protest banners claim, then why are they complaining about being called pathetic?
Keith Reynolds
Doncaster, South Yorkshire
Our courses are designed to help students who are studying French at “A” level. Any of the so-called ‘top’ universities demand an A* grade in French for any student who wishes to study Modern Languages.
The fact that most students who have managed to get into Durham University will have achieved A* grades in all their exams must lead one to doubt whether “A” levels provide any indication of the level of a person’s intelligence or practical common sense.
Morning all
Mild
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I can imagine the Christmas Party at Fawlty Towers with John Clees playing the role of Balthasar, Melchior or Caspar, rummaging in his robes and having to say:
“Myrrh’s off!”
Cat-proof Christmas tree
https://twitter.com/i/status/1470815045571563521
Good morning all. Dark still, but dry with 4½°C in the yard with a fine day forecast.
A quick glance at the news and I want to go & hibernate.
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In the 1980’s virtually all the young female swimmers and sunbathers on the beach went ‘topless’. Some not so young ones did too.
When did everyone become more puritan and when did the Daily Mail start putting black patches over nipples in the ‘glamour’ photographs they print?
American influence. Very prudish, they are.
Actions
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Have consequences…………
In an extraordinary turn of events, Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews has
been called before the criminal court after a charge of ‘concealing
treason’ was successfully filed with the Myrtleford Magistrates’ Court.
Andrews will appear at 9:30am on Friday, December 17 2021 (although it
is more likely that an appointed lawyer will stand in on his behalf. –
Shame!!!)
https://www.rebelnews.com/victorian_premier_daniel_andrews_called_before_court_on_charges_of_concealing_treason
It’ll be dismissed of course “not in the public interest” but still a nice marker to lay down!
BTL time:
Carolyn Bates
5 HRS AGO
In response to Andrew Holgate of Derby.
The Prime Minister’s bizarre statement on Sunday night, much to the surprise of the NHS and GPs, made no sense to anyone who has been following the Omicron variant.
We have consistently been told by doctors in South Africa that the variant is producing ‘mild flu symptoms’, despite transmission being high, with no deaths. Dr Coetzee, a GP and Chair of the South African Medical Association, stated over the weekend that Britain was overreacting , and confirmed her claims in front of the Health Select Committee just hours before MPs voted in Parliament, providing them with the latest data.
It is therefore inexplicable why, the Prime Minister is behaving in the way he is, when he is obviously privy to this data and yet, chose to go down a completely different avenue than the data indicated he should.
Is it little wonder then that 100 of his MPs voted against him. They did this because they are finally having to admit that the Prime Minister is not just totally out of control, but that he cannot be trusted. Worse, he is continually being untruthful and deceitful.
As only just over 50 letters have to be submitted to the 1922 Committee before a vote of no confidence is triggered, hopefully, those MPs who did the right thing yesterday will do the right thing today.
Camlock Trelawney
7 HRS AGO
100 Tory MPs have seen the writing on the wall. Johnson isn’t going to last until February.
One of the weakest PMs in history, who was afraid to follow Tory ideals despite having an eighty seat majority, who RAISED taxes despite his manifesto pledge and used Covid to scare the population into forgetting about his shortcomings, is shortly to be deposed. Good riddance.
* * *
Fear not; after yesterday’s vote Johnson is probably on his way out now.
342868+ up ticks,
Morning HJ,
Those 100 MPs are as credible as an ashtray on a motorbike, in-house selected opposition, the WHOLE ediface,tory (ino) plus lib/dems / lab
rotten to the core.
As much as I despair at Johnson, an approval-seeker divorced from reality, I look at the alternatives and weep.
#MeToo
And similarly I weep to find no alternative party worthy of my vote; the three vote-splitters that could/should amalgamate just continue to be the rag, tag and bobtail on the ballot paper along with a dozen others.
“the three vote-splitters that could/should amalgamate just continue to be” vehicles for their leaders overweening self-admiration.
Yes, but who on earth will replace him?
I presume another idiot…..
I wanted Owen Paterson to be prime minister but he lacked the over weening ambition to go for the job.
In spite of all the hoo hah I suspect that he is more honest and has more integrity than most members of the Conservative Party.
In spite of all the hoo hah I suspect that he is more honest and has more integrity than most
members of the Conservative PartyMPs of all Parties in Parliament..Gawd, I hope so!!
A seasonal Tw@ter post for our cat owning colleagues:-
https://twitter.com/Number10cat/status/1340218544995377153
We don’t own cats – they own us.
You can say that again!
We don’t own cats – they own us.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7366c51d6e574c8b3b1790f85adfca5d2387cec7fdb86fb8c369b0b068a9eea0.png Morning, Bob.
Did you manage to get a glimpse of this visitor to your locality last week?
Sadly not.
A letter & BTL Comments:-
Roger Sharpe obviously isn’t very sharp!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2021/12/15/180blower15-12-21_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bqqdjb-p7zzJOPNWzBBDV6FE0PBM-OMgZ95SXRPMk8vS4.jpg?imwidth=640
342868+ up ticks,
Morning Each,
Wednesday 15 December: It was scaremongering to announce an omicron death with no other data.
“Scaremongering” the wanna be slave speaketh, call it out for what it was, yet another politically constructed FEAR element.
The fat turkish controller is flexing his power muscles now openly bringing on board the infamous political paedophile protectors ALL busy preparing to take apart the old saying “every Englishman’s home is his castle”
by once he ( the Englishman) is inside they will insert a large nail in the drawbridge, withdrawn on a programmed basis as and when the politico’s controlling needs call for.
I would say in all honesty that carrying a party membership card now is to give them and their actions
your full consent.
I’ve never been a member of any political party ogga.
ditto
2 years Ukip membership were my one and only.
I’ve only ever been a member of UKIP. Until Blair I was never interested in politics at all.
A scary video. The speaker describes how she is expecting the Powers That Be to use the Vaccine Passports to move towards a digital id system which will then be transformed into a Chinese style Social Credit System.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/A1i3YtzVzKXf/
I thought that’s been the plan all along.
Good morning, all. Blueish skies.
Good morning, everyone.
Good Morning, Delboy
Conspiracy Theory?
Well, given the result of the Vaccine Passport conspiracy….
https://twitter.com/clim8resistance/status/1470779305831677967
342869+ up ticks,
Morning Bob,
Gettaway, does that mean they, the lab/lib/con are NOT individual party’s but a coalition, do the electorate acknowledge this ?
Edinburgh
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A waxing moon sets behind the dome of the Old College at the University of Edinburgh
Photoshopped!
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Vlad is trying to tell the morons who lead the West that time is running out! It’s useless of course. They have their fingers in their ears!
Vladimir studies history and is determined to be on the right side when the siht hits the fan.
“I asked you,i requested,i called for….but you wouldn’t listen”
I haven’t even mentioned the gas supply…………………………………..yet.
He must be mesmerised by what is happening in the west. Some of it is totally unbelievable and must have him rolling the floor in laughter.I think he is just pushing buttons to see what they will do next.
He’s kicked off his shoes, leant back in his recliner and is scoffing caviar flavoured pop corn while watching the west with wise-eyed disbelief.
Good morning, everyone.
Good Morning Elsie.
It was worse than scaremongering. It almost looked as if they were desperate for someone to die to get the ball rolling. Nobody had died anywhere in the world up to that point.
Deaths from omicron are inevitable though. Most people that die from covid are already that sick that a common cold would finish them off. In fact you don’t even need the cold. Somebody that dies from terminal cancer still gets counted if they have a positive test within 28 days. They really need to scrap that criteria.
The first UK Omicron case death individual is going to be applauded this evening at 7pm in Downing St. The NHS manager who smothered him with a pillow will be inside drinking a glass of fizz.
Snap. No read-undery. I had the same thought.
It’s just to inflate the figures – more scaremongering.
The other criteria is the one that interests me. That is the counting of mentions on death certificates. They started doing that for flu as well as of last January and it inflated the figures roughly 20 fold. If that is true and it might be in terms of contributing to death then flu becomes much more dangerous and comparable to covid in bad years. I suspect that many, if not most, covid deaths should be considered the same way i.e. contributing rather than as a cause.
If they did that with flu last winter – how come flu numbers were so low? The whole thing is just manipulation and scaremongering.
It started in January. I’ll look up the figures and get back to you.
These are the flu/pneumonia and covid figures for the year so far. They are taken from the ONS website this morning and are based on mentions on death certificates. I’ve put the rough month positions in to make the data more meaningful.
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Let me know if they are unreadable and I will split the data into two halves.
Interesting………..thankyou. Just a few more weeks to go for the full year. Of course some of these certificates might have both listed.
This is true and the ONS data states that is a possibility.
They might as well attribute the deaths to ‘rising of the lights’. At least that’s believable.
Look here, top of the page.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths
Deaths within 28 days of positive test: Total 146,627
Deaths with COVID-19 on the death certificate: Total 170,911
With Corona on death certificate is noticeably worse.
The 146, 627 is for the two years from 2020 -21. The 170,911 was higher possibly from the first wave when people weren’t tested?
Ooops …. the pillow slipped.
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‘The ideologies follow you around the room.’
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/aef845dcbb51698db78d88652e5da322a1012c3ec069cb1e114d24c81a488047.png “Global sea levels to rise by two feet in the next ten years!”
Beware! Panic! We’ll all be under water!
Now, please remind me: where, when and how many times have I read this over-excited hyperbole in the past century; only to find out that the sea level has not been elevated by a single millimetre? The low-lying Maldives are still in situ.
Where’s Al Gore when you need him?
Spending his time with the mountains of dosh he’s made by successfully frightening most of the world’s population with scare stories about global warming perhaps?
Rubbish.
Without getting too precise and assuming 2/3 of the earth surface is water, and the earth a sphere, then for water to rise by 2 metres over the whole world will require 1×10^14 cubic metres – so, 100,000,000,000,000 cubic metres of water – more of ice. Similar number in tonnes – that’s quite a big number. Effing enormous glacier, is it?
Hi Grizzly, funnily I was sent this information by a colleague a couple of days ago:
““The Thwaites glacier is slightly smaller than the total size of the UK, approximately the same size as the state of Washington, and is located in the Amundsen Sea.
It is up to 4,000 metres (13,100 feet thick) and is considered a key in making projections of global sea level rise.
The collapse of the Thwaites Glacier would cause an increase of global sea level of between one and two metres (three and six feet), with the potential for more than twice that from the entire West Antarctic Ice Sheet.
The Thwaites Glacier — which has been called the ‘Doomsday Glacier’ due to its impact on sea level rise — is being hit with heat from the Earth’s crust, as it is only 10 to 15 miles deep below West Antarctica, compared to around 25 miles in East Antarctica.
This results in a ‘geothermal heat flow of up to 150 milliwatts per square meter,’ the study’s lead author, Dr Ricarda Dziadek, said in a statement.
Since 1980, it has lost at least 600 billion tons of ice, according to a 2017 analysis done by the New York Times, using data from NASA JPL.”
So basically it is the geothermal heat flow that is responsible which has sfa to do with Greta Goblin and man made climate change.
Hi, Hoppy. The idiocy of it all is beyond words.
‘HMRC delays mean I will lose my house by the end of the month’
Taxpayers are waiting months for simple refunds
DT : Harry Brennan – https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tax/news/hmrc-delays-mean-will-lose-house-end-month/
BTL
This poor sod will probably lose his house.
Big Pharma and HMRC have one thing in common. They are both immune from prosecution and completrely avaricious..
If this pensioner loses his home then HMRC should be fully accountable just as those who die as a direct result of the injected gene therapy should be able to sue Big Pharma for substantial damages.
I once worked in a County Council legal section, specialising in putting pressure on old ladies to come up with prompt payment for their care packages, or the bailiffs would be round. The lady solicitors loved their work and the sense of empowerment they were paid to enjoy.
When we first came to France we met a rather sad and incompetent English woman who could not speak French and got herself into debt. Caroline went with her to the bailiff’s office to see if she could reason as well as translate for her.
The woman in the bailiff’s office clearly took great delight in inflicting pain and being inflexible, unreasonable and nasty. The sadistic glint in her eye was impossible to miss.
It is doubtless the same in Britain. The HMRC clearly also is required to employ the most horrible people it can find to work for them.
I’ve been on the receiving end of that – except, unfortunately for them, they were trying to charge me for a day when the centre was closed and another when MOH didn’t attend and the absence was recorded in advance.
I attach a link to the voting yesterday. Some of the Conservatives on the Spectator list did not vote. Douglas Ross, leader of the Tories in Scotland, did not.
Looking at these abstentions many, such as that of Mr Ross and others represent Scottish constituencies and abstained because of “good manners”, or the West Lothian Question protocol. That is, Scottish MPs won’t vote on matters that only concern England.
All of the SNP members abstained, but they may have been in the bar.
https://votes.parliament.uk/Votes/Commons/Division/1182#noes
They are paid to attend the Palace of Westminster and vote on behalf of their constituents and party; if they can’t decide between two choices, it doesn’t say much for Scottish education.
As I suspected, my “Gizza Job Boris” MP supported Fataturk – no matter about any of her constituents in the hospitality sectors, the small businesses and those waiting for the NHS to treat other problems like cancer!
From today’s DT:
The Tory grassroots will never forgive Boris
His parliamentary rebels are far from alone in lamenting the PM’s failure to make the most of a historic opportunity
MADELINE GRANT
PARLIAMENTARY SKETCHWRITER
14 December 2021 • 11:01pm
The other day, Theresa May slunk into the Commons slightly late. I watched as a female MP, who’d made the mistake of sitting in her usual seat, hastily jumped up and scuttled away, mouthing apologies. It echoed that scene in the Devil Wears Prada where the formidable Miranda Priestley turns up at the Runway Magazine offices unannounced andincites panic among her employees.
Perhaps it was just an example of the aura of deference which usually envelops elder statesmen and ex-PMs in Parliament, but it got me thinking. Since her departure Theresa May has enjoyed a post-No 10 rehabilitation of sorts – from weak, unpopular Calamity Jane to unofficial Queen of the backbenches. On everything from lockdown to Afghanistan, she has been an articulate, effective thorn in the Government’s side, winning The Spectator’s “Backbencher of the Year” award and acquiring a range of unexpected admirers.
Many compare Mrs May’s backbench opposition to that of Ted Heath, who, after being ousted by Mrs Thatcher in 1975, retreated, fuming, to the green benches for what proved to be the start of an infamous 26-year tantrum. At the 1998 party conference, William Hague’s team had the naff wheeze of seating Tory grandees on the main stage on Ikea armchairs in primary colours – with blue ones reserved for Mrs Thatcher and Heath. Heath, who’d spent the afternoon complaining about them, duly glowered into the middle distance throughout the speeches. Later on in the green room, Mrs Thatcher attempted some small talk with her predecessor about the awful chairs. “Oh I rather like them,” piped up Heath, quick as a flash.
The Thatcher/Heath comparison isn’t quite fair – Mrs May often succeeds in criticising the Government without descending to Heathian pettiness (while Boris Johnson today enjoys nothing like Mrs Thatcher’s popularity). It’s easy to imagine her in years to come, swanning about future Tory conferences as a grande dâme, her chaotic tenure defined by deadlock and acrimony apparently forgotten.
When the time comes, will the Tory grassroots be so forgiving of Bozza? Memories are short in politics, and it’s far too soon to start writing this serial survivor’s obituary, but it’s worth asking nevertheless. Recent events leave the overwhelming impression of a rudderless outfit where no one is really in charge; an administration characterised by frenetic U-turns with no underlying strategy, let alone a philosophy; a Government whose authority is vanishing inside and outside of the Commons. Last week Sajid Javid flatly contradicted the PM’s press conference speculations about “a national conversation about mandatory vaccines” within 24 hours – one of several examples of high- ranking Cabinet members moving unilaterally to rein in the PM’s excesses.
What is notable about the Tories’ Plan B rebels, whose numbers last night sent a chastening message to their party leader, is the lack of any obvious unifying trend to their manoeuvrings. They are drawn from all sides of the Party and oppose the Government for myriad reasons.
Away from Parliament, the PM’s tax-raising green agenda has alienated many of his most loyal grassroots supporters, and fuelled a cost-of-living crisis which the pandemic can only partly explain. Even Donald Trump broadly kept his base onside while he repulsed large swathes of the American public. By contrast, it is not obvious who, if anyone, would rank as a Boris Johnson “fan” nowadays.
In the annals of other supposedly “bad” PMs, where would we place ours? Certainly the pandemic dealt the PM a particularly terrible hand. Perhaps one day, like Gordon Brown, future Boris will maintain that the public funds he sprayed around were the result of a once-in-a-generation crisis. (Like Brown, this will be only be half true.)
Last night’s dramatic vote on Plan B measures left the Government flirting with Ramsay Macdonald territory; relying on political opponents to pass votes. Anthony Eden took considerable flak for Suez, but some historians are beginning to reassess his tenure, concluding that Eden, for all his faults and economy with the truth, was contending with events beyond his control. And unlike our current PM, he at least had well over a decade as an effective foreign secretary under his belt before the crisis hit.
What, I suspect, will most doom Johnson in the eyes of grassroots Tories is a sense of overwhelming disappointment after the triumph of defeating Corbynism and leading Britain out of the EU. He is arguably the first PM since Thatcher to have a meaningful chance to define his own form of Conservatism, yet “Johnsonism” remains amorphous. No Tory leader in recent memory has enjoyed such a unique opportunity to implement vital reform or make conservatism palatable to future generations – and none has squandered it quite so quickly. “For of all sad words of tongue or pen, The saddest are these: ‘It might have been!’”
Some leading BTLs:
D Walker
2 HRS AGO
In the space of 20 months, Johnson has morphed from a supposed Brexit-supporting, libertarian-Conservative into a man who:
1. Delivered a marginally better BRINO than Treason May attempted to foist on us. Who betrayed NI and our Fishing Industry and appeases the EU at every opportunity
2. A left-wing, fiscally-incontinent Eco Loon
3. An authoritarian “Leader” who ignores the views of his own backbenchers and will rely on the votes of a rabble of Marxists and Anti-Semites to get his Civil Liberty destroying policies through the House
He’s toast. Burnt toast. He had an 80 seat majority, thanks to Nigel Farage and Dominic Cummings, and an opportunity to reform the left-wing State Blair foisted on us. And he’s done nothing ….. except expand it.
He’s even managed to make the wooden plank Starmer more popular.
Unbelievable.
Stephen Speakman
10 HRS AGO
This young lady is politically an old wise soul who writes so very well.Johnson will not be forgiven indeed..let us quickly view the bleak landscape:
Immigration..an area littered by disaster including 360,000 annually pouring in,5.4 million offered a home from Hong Kong without asking the British electorate if they agree and open borders where so called asylum seekers can walk in with expectation of tax payer funded support to the tune of 30,000 + annually.
HS2 environmental and financial disaster.
Your children being fed a highly inappropriate diet of gender rubbish in schools and Wokery prevailing.
Green blob disaster potentially ruining our economy and leaving us carless and facing cold winters.
No support for traditional family what so ever.
Money printing,debt expansion and ineptitude on an immense scale.
The Covid stupidity on a scale of madness beyond belief and a total sell out of the liberties of the British people.
What good news this back bench rebellion was!
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May I add to the charge sheet – an unfinished Brexit…
I don’t particularly like Theresa May after the fiasco of her leadership. She did say one thing though which has come back to haunt us. It was a statement made after the election of Boris Johnson. She said that we would regret it. It was a strange statement and everybody tended to put it down as hard cheese. I think she was actually referring to the problems of dealing with a man of such chaotic style.
I recall one or two others giving the same warning(s) but I took them to be based on pique/jealosy/from a rival camp etc.
I remember her total, deliberate duplicity when she declared unequivocally:
“Brexit means Brexit “
and
“No deal is better than a bad deal”
The messed up, shambolic Brexit that Boris has created was built on the foundations laid by this evil woman.
We must never forget, not for a single moment that Mrs May is not just a bad woman, she is an evil one.
I wonder if we shall ever get to the bottom of the stories about Mrs May’s father and his involvement in a paedophilia scandal?
We can still find some accounts on the internet but we are told that some crucial things were taken down at Mrs May’s insistence.
Put simply, he’s an effing treasonous and totally useless scumbag.
A question about love.
I have always maintained that the only purpose of religion is to enhance one’s capacity to be loved and to be loved. All the scripture, the mythology, the rituals and the iconery are means to this end, no more.
So here is a quandary. I am building an extension that will one day be my bedroom. It is important therefore that I am happy with it, that I can live with it and sleep with it.
A few months ago, I searched the internet for the main door that would comply with Building Regs, be available and affordable.
I know what I should have done, and that was to commission a local carpenter to make one. However, when he did my windows, he must have used green wood, since they warped and now do not close. The factory-made windows have always been reliable and do not let the heat out in winter.
So I went for a factory one, advertised in oak to match the timber frame and in a simple cottage style.
What came was one in American white oak veneer, nothing like the European oak of my timber frame. Instead of using boards, 8mm square gaps were routed in, seven vertical and two horizontal top and bottom. It may convince an American, but it looks like a horrid MDF styled corporate version of a cottage door and utterly out of keeping. I saw the same door last night in a hotel.
How then do I live with it? I cannot love it, because of what it is, not what it does. It is not the sin, but the sinner I despise – which is totally opposed to my religious direction. It does not grace the simple Worcestershire country cottage where I have lived for 27 years. So what do I do about it?
One option is to put the thing on Ebay and shell out for a proper carpenter-made one. That would be very expensive.
Another would be to attempt to live with it, even though it depresses me every time I see it, in a gesture of self-denial. That would be very depressing.
The other approach would be to modify it, through my own ingenuity and artistry to make the unlovable lovable. I could screw three ledges on the nearside and bead in the gaps to resemble ogee tongue and groove, and then stain it a darker colour to be less American.
I then wonder – is changing something (or someone) beyond recognition to suit my taste a gesture of love, or of control? Pushing my own feelings above that of others. As a pantheist, I recognise that even doors have a spirit that conveys to those around it whether it is loved or hated.
I have long hated hairdressers who take a lovely natural girl with unspoilt hair to the waist, cut off her hair and make it fussy and high maintenance, cover her in makeup and fashionable clothes and makeover her according to their tastes, which I find intensely ugly. Why could they not let her be herself in her own skin, rather than feeling they must transform her?
Maybe the door would like a makeover. The door was turned out in a factory as a unit of production and not as an act of love. The changes you make will be an act of love. Paint can do wonders, from mere coverage to a trompe l’oeil that will give the door and yourself the look that you both need.
Very philosophical for a Wednesday morning… but here goes.
My take on religion is that is is a control system – effectively, politics dressed up with nicer buildings and better singing. Just look at what it’s been used for: Crusades, sectarian violence, even Gott mit Uns.
As to the door… make it as you want, or it’ll irritate every time you look at it. We bought 4″ wall and floor tiles for our bathroom renovation, white for the walls and grey for the floor, and 2″ grey tiles for the shower drain to acommodate the slopes.
The tiler fitted them all beautifully, except… the vertical grout lines in the walls don’t link with th horizontal grout lines in the floor – anywhere! Neither do any grout lines match at the interface between drain 2″ and floor 4″ tiles. That was the point of the 2″ – 4″ thing.
Every freaking morning I sit on the dunny and look at these mismatches, and it irritates me even after 18 years. So – unless you want to be regularly irritated, change the door.
Hi Oberst,
I used to live in a house with a similar setup re tiles in the bathroom. Drove me mad also.
Good morning Jeremy and everyone.
Either way a real oak door would take time to settle in even if the wood were seasoned. Reason being that the temperature and humidity differs between the inside of your house and the outside. The only way around that problem is a porch or an inner lobby. My humble suggestion would be to hang the door, live with it for a while until the spring, then customise it, or ‘pimp it’ as they say these days.
Seconded. I have some well-seasoned recycled oak doors under a car port and shielded from rain but still subject to outside temperature and humidity. They expand and contract far more than I expected and I had to do a fair amount of ‘pimping’, but I’m now happy with them.
We used to live in an old farmhouse; in the sitting room was a huge central oak beam, that was 400 years old.
During the summer, a gap opened along it; in the winter, that gap closed.
The house, which had an oak frame and no modern foundations, remained steady, regardless of the weather.
We have oak doors and they certainly do weather and warp.
Go for a conservatory in keeping with an older property….
Double glazing a tiled/insulated roof and good heating system..perfect!
I have a garage to turn into a conservatory when time allows.
PS
Forget the philosophy
Contact these people https://www.ternex.co.uk/ Oak specialist.
Fairly local to me I have often used them whilst building extensions etc, i’m a joiner by trade and I could have help out but i’m not very well at the moment.
Bead and butt oak paneling might look more authentic. Measure the width and height of the door and Ternex might be able to make you some. and send it to you.
Why didn’t you send the door back as it was not what you were wanting and the description didn’t match the product?
The lovely natural girl presumably had the choice of how she looked and her choice was what she got.
Wolfgang Münchau
Why Omicron may overwhelm the NHS
15 December 2021, 8:49am
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Jaypee • 2 hours ago • edited
Ive done some equally detailed studies as the LSHTM.
Omicron is so much more infectious than Delta that it can be caught by merely reading about it on your smartphone.
The variant is particularly attracted to the left leaning middle class.
Sadly, it is also more aggressive once the host is infected. The host is ravaged with an acute fear of working anywhere other than home, paranoia and pant wetting.
Perhaps worst of all is their incessant need to talk copious amounts of shiite – which they just can’t help – and speak down and finger wag to those who are not infected. In this way, the variant can spread even further.
Looney toons…
Thinking you have been abducted by aliens can cause PTSD
and damage your mental health as badly as if you were actually
kidnapped, study finds.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10311031/Thinking-abducted-aliens-cause-PTSD.html
Westminster is stuffed full with aliens.
Morning all.
It was scaremongering to announce an omicron death with no other data. It was made quite clear by the South Africans at the outset, it was considered no worse than the common cold or mild flu.
It certainly was scaremongering, I have just found a route to the NHS ‘service desk’ and have sent my inquiry regarding the ‘Booster’ i’m hoping someone will give me a positive and sensible answer or official immunity, as i am am worried sick if i have this third and possibly subsequent injection it will wipe me out. I’m still in trouble with heart problems after the last two and the Flu jab.
If you have had a stroke or heart problems, I would not dream of taking any of it as the possible side effects are all related to those problems.
I had a minor stroke ten years ago and have been taking blood thinners ever since. My doctor has strongly advised me not to have the
vaccinegene therapy but my son is getting married in the summer in Britain and my boat is in the Eastern Mediterranean.Are there any Agony Aunts or Uncles in the Nottlers’ Forum?
Are my son’s wedding and my sailing in the Med things literally ‘to die for’ because, without gene therapy, I won’t be able to travel out of France.
I think I mentioned previously that I showed my apixaban card to the first lady doctor who jabbed me. She didn’t really seem to be bothered. As i have also mentioned recently a friend of ours was rushed to A&E after a heart attack and subsequently died from a massive stroke. I might be wrong but I would assume he had just been boosted.
You have to get to Calais and jump into a rubber boat Richard, that’s the only way to get into the UK with out any scrutiny these days.
You and Caroline might have to make a visit to a spay tanning shop just for extra authenticity. 😃
Everything will have changed by summer. If you have the jabs now, they will be out of date by then anyway. I’m just waiting until next year’s revelations until I do anything, I don’t intend to sit at home until I die though.
You might not last until the wedding, Rastus, if you have the jab. And will you have had to have had three (or four?) by then? Nothing lasts forever, come sailing through at the end of all this with your health intact. Don’t take experimental and incompletely tested drugs from criminal organisations and their corrupt pushers. Which is what they are. It is all about the money, mostly.
Could you offer to skipper a boat from France to the E Med and then sail yours to the UK?
Quite a long journey admittedly.
Pitch up at a small port/river mooring and dinghy ashore and I doubt anyone would be any the wiser.
If having Covid and recovering is counted as immunity regarding travel restrictions, it might be worth your while going out of your way to catch it, and recover of course.
This Agony Uncle would advise using Schengen as the excuse to travel overland to Greece, then nip into Turkey, board the boat and sail to Dover as a refugee.
My GP in a roundabout way said a few weeks ago that I ‘shouldn’t bother’ having the booster. But i am being pestered daily to have it by the bloody media. With Vaccine passports and other stuff they keep banging on about. Perhaps they might included wavers for many of the public who have had adverse affects from the injections.
And the first time I had this problem they fixed it almost immediately, I’ve had it since the first jab.
Believe your GP not the media. Don’t take the booster unless you plan to visit Australia.
Well that’s one of the possible options we have lots of friends and relations in Oz and haven’t been for over 6 years.
Ignore the nudge unit. Be your own man and stand firm.
I feel it’s too dangerous to my health Conners it more of a risk than getting covid. My GP will not commit so as he says I have to make my own mind up which I have. No way am i having another jab.
If it’s any consolation, Eddy, I think you’ve made the right decision. You have my backing.
Morning, Eddy.
I don’t like being negative, but my advice is to completely ignore any ‘official’ information, whether it be on vaccines or any other matter.
They will only give you a govt approved reply, Eddy. It is obvious that Govt ‘advice’ to the nhs has been not to diss the jab in any way at all on pain, I suspect, of being struck off. The person you should be listening to is your own body, it is telling you the best way it can, the only way it knows how. Your symptoms were it saying: “please, please do not do this to me again.” The nhs and govt cares not one whit about us, it is not about our health, only to get jabs into those arms. And this is not the end, there will be a fourth, a fifth and a sixth. Possibly more.
For me, government indemnity to Pfizer etc regarding liability for side effects said it all. Do not touch with a barge pole.
Don’t have it Eddy – it’s probably more dangerous than the virus.
That’s how I feel about it.
I’m trying to get some one to confirm my feelings and worries, but they have plenty to say but offer no real or helpful information.
Don’t have any more jabs. If you’re not convinced go to the Steve Kirsch substack account https://stevekirsch.substack.com/archive?utm_source=menu-dropdown and read the numerous articles about the dangers of the ‘vaccine’. If you’ve already had problems from the first 2 injections, then any subsequent boosters can only make things worse. (And I wouldn’t trust anything the NHS told me without triple checking first these days.)
My GP will not commit, so as he says I have to make my own mind up which I have. No way am I having another jab.
I have tried to contact the NHS on several occasions they never reply. Around 6 months ago the government employed a further 4-6 senior (what sort of business were they in before?) managers into the NHS I believe that they a were put in to slowly bring it to it’s knees and make it pay to use. It’s no longer sustainable in its present form.
Good Moaning.
I see that millions will die of a nasty cold by Christmas.
ATISHOOO……!
or in anagram form OOO A SHIT
We all fall down… But “Ring a Ring o’Roses” is attributed by some as a reference to the Plague, so…
That’s exactly where that rhyme came from. Not sure what the pocket full of posies were but that didn’t work either.
I think they were herbs and flowers that were supposed to ward off/cure the plague.
The sort of things that visiting doctors (HAH – haven’t we professed in the last 400 years!) used to protect themselves. The beak of their masks contained plague defying herbs.
I think judges are still presented with a posy before Old Bailey trial; originally it was to ward off the gaol fever that the prisoners brought into court.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/844f462194e87bd7854da72e5548259c00796c14dee1ece5c80416fe9c27f7d5.jpg
“Stop that, grannie. You are frightening the wee ones!”
I was under that impression Ann, they thought it might ward off the plague.
Wot?
Herbie Flowers?
https://youtu.be/t4kRbVjONuY
Didn’t he play with John Williams in Sky?
Yes. Also played the opening bass on Walk On The Wild Side.
Correct.
The pot-pourri held up to the face to ward up the germs.
The Rev. Dr, Ian Paisley wouldn’t have held with that. “No pot-pourri here!” was his slogan.
Eyam sure there is an answer
When all survive, what will Boris do?
https://www.eyam-museum.org.uk/
Billions, silly.
I TOLD you I was chucked out of the ‘O’ level maths class.
Too late- it is now trillions. Draab said so.
I just wish the Media would zip it, they are so irresponsible.
I saw that leftie idiot VIne on TV this morning suggesting that wrapping paper should be banned.
Cripes. I’d better warn Spartie, he prefers it to the actual present.
So does our Lab Lottie. But she never chews or rips it. I thought i’I had trained her to to fetch the mail from the door mat which she does daily, but she brings it to me and I hold out my hand to take it, she drops it on the floor. Bit annoying this time of the year. She’s too old to reteach her.
When I put up the tree in the conservatory Oscar went straight to the mock presents I put under it to hide the stand and started to rip the paper off! Aagghh!! He was NOT keen to let go, either.
It’s about time that Jeremy Whine was banned!
Will Lord Geidt pull the trigger and finish Boris Johnson?
The Hound
December 14, 2021
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Lord Geidt
Lord Geidt is a serious person not to be trifled with. During the Bosnian war in the early 1990s and in the aftermath of that horror, he negotiated with the Bosnian Serb leadership. Later, Radovan Karadžić and General Ratko Mladić were indicted for war crimes. After his army and diplomatic career – he had joined the Scots Guards following Trinity Hall, Cambridge and KCL – he worked for the Queen. He was the monarch’s private secretary from 2007-2017.
Having appointed him as his ethics adviser, or the independent adviser on ministers’ interests, this is someone the Prime Minister should have been extremely careful not to fall out with. But that is what happened when Geidt investigated the bafflingly expensive and unnecessarily plush renovation of the Downing Street flat.
Boris assured Geidt that he hadn’t been asking around for cash. Geidt published his investigation in good faith on that basis.
Actually, Johnson had sent Lord Brownlow, a Tory donor, a WhatsApp message in November 2020 seeking additional money from the trust set up to fund the work.
Yet the Electoral Commission has since established that in May this year, Lord Geidt was assured by Johnson he knew nothing about such payments – “until immediately prior to media reports in February 2021”.
If Geidt says publicly he has been misled by the current PM, or resigns as he might, then the pressure for Boris Johnson to resign himself will be intense. Geidt has been in talks with Number 10, it has been reported in recent days.
Geidt is unhappy. But what will he do? If he pulls the trigger it could finish Johnson within days. Or will the row be parked and quietly forgotten until after Christmas?
There’s an added dimension. The Queen question. The PM who made the monarch mourn alone at the funeral of her husband, an experience replicated in many families across the land, has been caught out misleading her former private secretary.
With the intense focus this week on Covid restrictions, Tory rebellion and the Omicron wave, the Geidt factor has been somewhat overlooked in recent days.
“Geidt has Boris by the balls,” says a Tory MP.
https://reaction.life/will-lord-geidt-pull-the-trigger-and-finish-boris-johnson/
But will his heart and
mindwife follow?Didn’t realise he had any…
They’ve been drained dry by his latest wifelet.
NEW REPORT SLAMS NHS’S WOKE ‘RACE EQUALITY STANDARD’ SCHEME
A damning new report this week from the Civitas think tank has slammed the NHS for “misdirecting resources and talent” and wasting taxpayers’ money with its ‘Workforce Race Equality Standard’ (WRES) scheme – a programme which attempts to “monitor and control diversity and equality” in the Health Service by setting diversity targets and turning it into “an instrument of social justice”. Yes, as opposed to just an instrument for saving lives…
The research finds that despite the estimated £50-60 million spent on WRES in the last five years, 8 of the scheme’s 9 diversity indicators have shown no significant improvement, all while ramping up the bureaucratic power of overpaid middle managers and ‘BME leads’. The report doesn’t hold back:
“WRES is the creation of a cohort of ideologically-minded individuals who benefit from the programme, while the costs are left to patients and the taxpayer. Ultimately, this means money is wasted and not spent on improving health.”
The paper adds that NHS Chief People Officer Prerana Issar – who’s ultimately responsible for all this – is on £230,000 a year, which is more than CEO who hired her. Worth bearing in mind as Rishi whacks a ‘health and social care levy’ on everyone’s payslips…
https://order-order.com/2021/12/15/new-report-slams-nhss-woke-race-equality-standard-scheme/
Is that a surprise to anyone?
Diversity officers, this waste, and she’s not the only one, the NHS is awash with waste. That is why it is so expensive. Money isn’t spent on healthcare. It goes on this nonsense.
The NHS should not be given more, it should be cut, dramatically until it learns what it is there for.
Rozenburg, the Netherlands
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/74cbb80eee7a138455a368f8c0dc50a72cabf20e/0_0_5418_3648/master/5418.jpg?width=700&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=a97f9b005454cf03cd869c52f2112191
Farmers gather with tractors near Schiphol airport to offer a buyout contract. In response to government plans to cut nitrogen pollution by buying out farmers and reducing agricultural production, the convoy travelled to Schiphol to deliver a contract to buy out and decommission the airport, equally responsible for pollution, according to the farmers
I hope that catches on.
Can’t be real farmers. Real farmers drive John Deere the size of an apartment block – not a green tractor anywhere visible there.
An old Punch(?) cartoon where a farmer is talking to another:
“Oi be in two moinds whether to take the Jag or the Merc on that protest march about farming poverty”
JDs are in the second row.
No agriculture to save co2 emissions, haven’t thought this move through have they?
I once drove around Schipol, towing our Tintent.
We realised, that we were going in the incorrect direction, for us, and knew that the airport would have the facility for us to ‘about turn’.
We came off the dual carriage way, went past Arrivals and picked up the road we wanted
There was much ‘jaw dropping’ by the Dutch
Russia is not the aggressor here. Spiked 15 December 2021.
From Russia’s perspective, it is NATO that has long been doing all the running here. From the mid-1990s onwards, NATO has been determinedly expanding eastwards, eating into Russia’s sphere of influence. In 1997, Hungary, Poland and the Czech Republic signed up. Former Soviet satellites Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia were admitted in 2004. In 2009, Croatia and Albania joined. And crucially, at NATO’s Bucharest summit in April 2008, NATO agreed that Georgia and Ukraine ‘will become members’, although it did not outline specific plans as to how and when this would happen.
This promise to incorporate Georgia and especially Ukraine into NATO was always going to appear as a threat to Russia. How could it not? Western powers, never shy of sounding off against the Red Menace, would effectively have extended their own sphere of influence right up to Russian borders. And so, as we saw with the 2014 annexation of Crimea, one of Russia’s principle geopolitical objectives has been to resist NATO’s expansion.
Yes we know! The countries that invented Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq; Invaded Afghanistan, destroyed Libya and undermined the Syrian Government are now seeking to do the same to Russia! Still it seems a bit of a risk putting this up in Spike Mr Black. You could find yourself joining Julian Assange in a Washington Show trial.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/12/15/russia-is-not-the-aggressor-here/
The reason for the confusion about Omicron infections is that confirmation of virus numbers is lagging about a week behind estimated numbers.
See the Omicron model V3.0 below:
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/532d4ba18331226c4fe25e286b05fcecfd8355501bf2941e53397716768b481b.jpg
At the point that the lines cross, there are about 20million of each, 40million total. Up to day thirty, and beyond the end of the graph, the total is 70million. So what happened to the missing 30 million from day 30?
Thanks for pointing out the consequence of a cell constant in my spreadsheet not being carried through in a column of cell formulae replications. This caused a cumulative error in the UK uninfected population values.
I have now corrected the spreadsheet in Version 4.0
Bob has this pair bang to rights.
https://twitter.com/bobscartoons/status/1470870991765184518
Danse Macabre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0glOYQBlSA
It’s not all over till the fat bloke sings…..
The Last Quango in Dudley.
Last exit to Lye 🙂
NoTTlers – chill with a strong black coffee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKRY63Buv6A
On the one hand…but then on the other…
NHS could be overwhelmed by Omicron next month, Sage scientist says
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/nhs-jenny-harries-sage-omicron-bbc-radio-b972060.html
Omicron may be no worse than flu, says government adviser
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/14/omicron-less-severe-covid-delta-variant-two-vaccine-jabs-give/
Dare to express an opinion on the subject in front of the frightened and masked-up and what will you hear? A sarcastic “Oh! You’re an expert are you? I’d rather listen to a real one, thanks very much.” To which the answer is “Take your pick…”
On the one hand…but then on the other…
NHS could be overwhelmed by Omicron next month, Sage scientist says
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/nhs-jenny-harries-sage-omicron-bbc-radio-b972060.html
Omicron may be no worse than flu, says government adviser
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/14/omicron-less-severe-covid-delta-variant-two-vaccine-jabs-give/
Dare to express an opinion on the subject in front of the frightened and masked-up and what will you hear? A sarcastic “Oh! You’re an expert are you? I’d rather listen to a real one, thanks very much.” To which the answer is “Take your pick…”
Deleted under advice
Did you recommend a barber?
Heir Kuttz ?
It’s nothing to do with me Plum, i’m only the piano player.
Best get a clip on.
Just getting the magazines ready.
I bought some salt tabs yesterday 25 KG 8.88 up a little on last time.
I can’t help wondering if that sent as an “open letter” might not be defamatory.
Only if it contains falsehoods.
I’ll delete it
Just remember: “Omicron will seek you out...” © the slammer in charge of “edjacashun”
342869+ up ticks,
Hard choice for the sh!te graders ( the electorate) they will do it to spite their kids being one reason.
Liberal Democrats Now Bookies’ Favourites to Win Tory Seat in Special Election: Report
342869+ up ticks,
Laying it on the line,
https://twitter.com/buitengebieden_/status/1471065449475588098
342869+ up ticks,
Been watching Bill Bailly.
https://twitter.com/buitengebieden_/status/1471073548064243712
Looks like a cocky flyweight boxer.
https://ukupdates.co.uk/lewis-hamilton-knighted-by-prince-of-wales-at-windsor-castle/?fbclid=IwAR3KgrxYMKmikLFReZIZbW8KdrH4Uhquwe7VB-mL18Ud7S4L7fXq-HJYe_E
Following on from yesterday’s letter about the ECHR from Gregory Shenkman.
When Russia updated their Constitution last year they inserted a clause where the ECHR has no juristiction over Russian Law.
No wonder they hate Vlad with a vengeance!
“…s the right not to be rounded up because of your religion and murdered. Its authors were concerned to ensure that fundamental freedoms that we took for granted were bestowed upon the people of countries who had never known them…”
And for those countries who have known them, it changed their relationship with the state machine. It defined what the citizen *could* do, not what the state would punish if transgressed. The two perspectives are completely different.
The difference between Common Law (everything is permitted unless there is a law to forbid it) and Corpus Juris (everything is forbidden unless there is a law to allow it). Corpus Juris is the Continental Code Napoleon.
I don’t remember feeling oppressed before 1998.
Maybe Cherie Blair did when she checked her bank balance.
I didn’t feel oppressed when we still had Habeas Corpus, Common Law, the Bill of Rights and Magna Carta.
The terror of a government voting specifically for the control over the public is horrific. The lot of them need to go.
342869+ up ticks,
May one ask when this issue hits England what side will the lab/lib/con coalition current supporter / voters be on ?
French Catholics Threatened with Death by Muslims During Procession.
Police arrived afterwards….
342869+ up ticks,
Evening HP,
Long,long afterwards no doubt.
A lovely day down here, so I’ve knocked up a cement mortar mix and done 3½ hrs work doing a bit more to the terrace wall I’m doing. Have just had some lunch and am enjoying a mug of tea with a Bach Partita on R3..
Well now, weather dull and 13c.
Moh and his bods not golfing , so no Christmas lunch either , boo hoo.
Moh in garden planting a few more bulbs .
I woke up very early this morning feeling terrible , not a hangover, because I rarely ever drink . Fuggy head and aching bones .
I drank a mug of coffee and ate some Weetabix .. then went back to bed , very unusual for me , slept for a few hours , woke up to find a dog on the bed , and another down by the side of the bed , snoring .
Bless him, Moh had taken the dogs for a run, returned , and then cleared off to the driving range , so I woke up with two sleeping dogs … very nice .
Moh back home, just about to watch PMQs.
So the day has been disrupted some what .
Wuhan lab leak ‘now the most likely origin of Covid’, MPs told
Dr Alina Chan says there is also a risk that Covid-19 is an engineered virus
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/15/wuhan-lab-leak-now-likely-origin-covid-mps-told/
BTL
So Trump was quite right all along when he called it the China Virus or Kung Flu!
Trump was always right
I can’t remember the name of the drugs or chemicals he mentioned often but he was also correct about the cheaper existing versions of what would cure it. As it did during SARS.
Hydroxychloroquine was the one mentioned by Trump that was particularly ridiculed by the MSM.
No doubt if President Trump hadn’t mentioned it, it wouldn’t have been withdrawn.
Of course he was …. so he had to GO!
His sums added up to 4, unlike the MSM.
It was suggested at the time that some of the animals that had been used in experiments in the labs had been sold for human
consumption on the market ………….now a lot of people are making an awful lot of money out of this human carnage.
His mistake was allowing the Left to use it as racial slur against him.
And Dr Fauci’s backers funded it because it was illegal to carry out the research in the US.
People really need to wake up to the number of US funded labs carrying out biological research throughout the world.
For example Ukraine,Georgia,Italy.
There are lots in Africa.
Talk about stating the b1eeding obvious. Where has this Dr Chan been, or is it that she’s only just been allowed out? Those, like Trump, who called this over a year ago were labelled conspiracy theorists, convid deniers, all sorts of insults by the pschops ‘experts’.
‘Viral’
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Viral-Search-Covid-19-Alina-Chan-ebook/dp/B096TCFVYP/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3TQAZDPWT3RLC&keywords=alina+chan&qid=1639588932&sprefix=Alina%2Caps%2C203&sr=8-1
Review
‘The result is a viral whodunnit that is sure to appeal to armchair detectives’ Mark Honigsbaum, the Observer
‘The book collates a series of circumstantial but damning points in favour of the lab-leak hypothesis. It opens with a cloak-and-dagger scene of a BBC reporter trying to reach a mine in Mojiang, a rural area in southwest China… The book has dozens of tantalising facts … The book, fairly, does not conclude that the lab leak hypothesis is definitely true, merely that it is highly possible, and I agree… I hope the questions that Chan and Ridley raise are answered more fully, one way or another’ Tom Chivers, The Times
‘Both journalists and armchair detectives interested in the mystery of the coronavirus were discovering Chan as a kind of Holmes to our Watson. She crunched information at twice our speed, zeroing in on small details we’d overlooked, and became a go-to for anyone looking for spin-free explications of the latest science on Covid-19’ Rowan Jacobsen, Boston Magazine.
Set in the caves and mineshafts, food markets and wildlife smugglers’ stores, laboratories and databases of China and elsewhere, Viral is a page-turner that reads like a detective novel and goes deeper into the deepest mystery of the day than any other work.
On Sunday, the stand-in vicarette scathingly said “Trump” – surely he was President at the time – “said America shouldn’t let in any more muslims because they would harm us”. Clearly she thought that was a bad thing. She approved Bojo’s saying that he wouldn’t be going to America because Trump was there. I tried to enlighten her about islam afterwards, but I’m not sure it sank in.
Its been in operation for some time for oil and gas trade…Russia uses more € than $.
Russia and China will develop shared financial structures to enable them to deepen economic ties in a way that foreign states will be unable to influence, the Kremlin has announced following talks between the countries’ leaders.
The move appears to be a response to a series of warnings that Western nations could push to disconnect Russia from the Brussels-based SWIFT financial system as a form of sanctions.
The payment platform underpins the vast majority of international transactions. During the talks on Wednesday, Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping called for increasing the share of national currencies in mutual settlements and expanding cooperation to provide Russian and Chinese investors with access to stock markets, said Yuri Ushakov, Putin’s foreign policy advisor.
https://www.rt.com/russia/543258-moscow-china-create-independent-structure/
Good Idea! Of course, when Colonel Ghaddafi tried it the US bombed his country and killed him.
Could be a NOTTlers Xmas message
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U2XdkBkTTk&ab_channel=FascinatingA%C3%AFda
See You Next Tuesday. 😉
The Twelve Days Of Christmas
On the first day of Christmas, my true love sent to me
A mild case of Covid-19
On the second day of Christmas, my true love sent to me
Two latex gloves and a mild case of Covid-19
(Repeat, adding new line below each time)
Three bubbled homes
Four thousand fans
Five Yule days
Six isolators
Seven friends a-Zooming
Eight Netflix dramas
Nine neighbours grassing
Ten testers tracing
Eleven pubs a-closing
Twelve shoppers queuing
Oh dear me!
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ff8bd54f50901d0ae62651b0941be0668b4ff0d136b5583030346210da1fc125.png On a nostalgia trip for the places I grew up. Has anyone enjoyed a Bakewell Pudding from the place they were invented?
Bakewell Pudding,oh Yes!
Always thought she was better named as a Tart.
Different animal.
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The pudding has a jelly-like texture, not crumbly like the tart.
…and the pudding requires more than just one bite, unlike the tart…
Licenced premises… I remember those… 🙁
Not that one, Paul. That is a baker’s shop and tea room. The Rutland Arms (where the original Bakewell Pudding was invented), though, is next door.
Looks like a pub – although, to be fair, my desire for a session with mates in a boozer makes everywhere look like a pub :-((
It stocks locally sourced beers, so presumably it must be licenced.
We drove into Bakewell several times trying to find local pies, obviously we don’t have the same detective qualities that you do.
Which pies would they be then? I’ve never heard of a “Bakewell Pie”.
Looking for a Bakewell tart sounded rather cheeky!
Look for a Bakewell Pudding then.
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Lovely!
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It is about thirty years since I saw that spire, you would have thought that it would have been straightened by now.
It will automatically straighten the next time a virgin marries there.
I heard that it would only straighten when an honest lawyer passed by.
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Nice Christmas card, Grizz!
I was watching a walking programme on BBC last night that went through Monsal Dale. I remember going there for a day trip with school and having a picnic next to the River Wye. It must have been around 1963 because steam trains were still running on the Derby to Manchester line over the Headstone Viaduct.
Must be my age – getting mostalgic for places of my youth, although none were particularly noteworthy or beautiful.
Going back can be upsetting and horrible memories surface. It’s what happened to me.
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Omicron falling – searching people out….
45 years since I was last in York….
14 for me.
about 14 for me, too. Visited the Pickering Steam festival, too.
49 years for me.
..
59 years for me, I was a barman in the Punchbowl in Stone Street while serving at RAF Linton-on-Ouse.
Never been there
The Vikings have!
And the Romans.
Last time I went to York (to the races) was before Royal Ascot temporarily relocated there.
True story. When I mentioned to a Doctor friend I’d been to York he told me a friend of his had also recently visited York for Dinner. Afterwards driving home not being a local he got lost in the one way system. Fortunately just ahead was a police van. He thought they are bound to know their way out of the system I’ll follow them. Much to his surprise the van suddenly stopped and a group of policemen piled out and ran off. All but one who approached him and said: “Excuse me sir do you know where you are?” To which he replied: “No. I’m lost in the one way system and I was following you to find a way out”. “Well”, said the policemen., “Let me tell you that you are in a pedestrian precinct. Have you been drinking sir?… Would you please blow into this?”
Footnote. The police had been called to a disturbance which is why most of them rushed off.
I was stationed in Imphal Barracks York for two years in the mid 80s. As if that wasn’t enough of a treat, I was later stationed in Maastricht, NL. Like a carbon copy of York only with better opening hours and the continental Cafe Culture thrown in
Katie Price gets suspended jail sentence & driving ban. She should have gone inside.
Care to tell us what you are referring to?
K.P., ex glamour-model, who rolled her BMW in the middle of the night whilst stoned on cocaine.
Thank you. I had just gone to the Mail where I thought I would find out. I was not wrong.
Good work!
… whilst already disqualified from driving, and no insurance. Perhaps she winked at m’lud..
… whilst already disqualified from driving, and no insurance. Perhaps she winked at m’lud..
Agreed.
In her eyes, she probably thinks she got away with it. She’ll do it again.
Didn’t she use to have something to do with a baptismal river in the Middle East?
Yes, jor darn right about that.
Comedian Jethro dies aged 73 from Covid despite having had two jabs and a booster two years after he battled cancer
Jethro, real name Geoffrey Rowe, died yesterday from Covid, management said
Comic was fully vaccinated and had had his booster jab before contracting virus
Last year, 73-year-old announced he was retiring from stand-up after 50 years
Cornish comedian shot to fame in 1980s and appeared on Des O’Connor show
DM Story
Steve Tomlin, the father of one of my godsons, was captain of the UEA rugby team when I was at UEA. He introduced the great England No 8 Andy Ripley to the game. Steve used to play for the Pirates in Penzance and Jethro used to play in the front row with Steve and Stack Stevens, the England prop about whom Steve has written a biography. Steve writes biographies about rugby players and I have written to him today suggesting he writes one about Jethro.
I suppose that it was inevitable that Geoffrey Row would play in the front rowe. 😉
Sigh…
Here’s how the BBC is reporting his demise:
“Cornish comedian Jethro has died at the age of 73 after contracting Covid-19, his family has said.
So – nothing at all to do with the cancer. What a relief…. (sarc)
Comedian Jethro dies aged 73 from Covid despite having had two jabs and a booster two years after he battled cancer
Jethro, real name Geoffrey Rowe, died yesterday from Covid, management said
Comic was fully vaccinated and had had his booster jab before contracting virus
Last year, 73-year-old announced he was retiring from stand-up after 50 years
Cornish comedian shot to fame in 1980s and appeared on Des O’Connor show
DM Story
Steve Tomlin, the father of one of my godsons, was captain of the UEA rugby team when I was at UEA. He introduced the great England No 8 Ripley to the game. Steve used to play for the Pirates in Penzance and Jethro used to play in the front row with Steve and Stack Stevens, the England prop about whom Steve has written a biography. Steve writes biographies about rugby players and I have written to him today suggesting he writes one about Jethro.
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There’s a lot of flakes in Parliament.
SPLAT…….
One to make the heart flutter…
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Have a care. There’s an Elderly Gentleman that peruses this site, likely to have a heart condition. I doubt he can handle more than one British Standard Handful a day.
Enough of your sauce. Richard Tracey is quite able to cope with this…{:¬))
It was Paul Newman who said: “Why go out for a hamburger when you can have fillet steak at home!”
🎶My old man’s a miner, he works all day in a pit, sometimes he shovels
coal dust sometimes he shovels…..🎶. Is not one of the wonderful songs
on this recently released album.
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Star murderess gets 25 years minimum. No mention of the sentence for the mother, charged with “allowing the murder to take place”. Surely that makes her an accessory?
FS, for allowing the death of your daughter, you get eight years.
You must serve two-thirds before being considered for release. Your 443 days on remand will be factored in.
Court transcript!
Ah, the mother got 8 years.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-59672858
nowhere near enough
We can only hope that her fellow inmates will mete out some appropriate justice.
The killer of the little Arthur has already been isolated for her own protection.
is that ‘rule 47’? Evil creature. These child killers deserve no protection whatsoever.
A shame Arthur didn’t get the same protection…
Looking at the photos of those two bitches, the killers of those two little mites, look at their eyes. Dead, no feeling there. I once taught a boy in CT whose eyes were like that and I mentioned it to the Head of Special Ed. Yes, she said, one day he’ll hurt someone.
Why, oh why were the concerns of the extended family overlooked in both cases? And how many other little guys are slipping through the cracks because of all these asinine restrictions.
Was there plenty of booing at PMQ when BPAPM deigned to come off paternity leave to lie to Parliament?
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ef604e9056bb95114968563efff888a10145ab6207088af4de38640cd4f85416.png Gin? Chin-chin?
Gin? It’s a trap.
Just have to Gin and bear it eh?
I hope you’re not sloe with the answers.
What a tonic you are, Eddy.
I know Bill………but don’t get me started,………. I might get all self consensus. 😏
I’ve got a litre of damson Gin ‘on the go’ in the garage. But don’t tell Plum.
It would be a tonic if I were.
But It really is a very nice liquor. Small glasses only of course.
Signs of the times.
The BBC has a story of yet another Footballer with heart problems -Happened October 30th no mention of Covid Vaxx!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59660727
And then some others here….
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/watch-video-third-pro-soccer-player-week-experiences-severe-chest-pain-during-game…
Apparently – (and I can’t find the stats, natch) – before this plague, foopballers dropped dead like flies (or had health ishoos while playing) all the time. Seriously – it is a known phenomenon.
There doesn’t appear to be a greater incidence since March 2020. Stig will know. He always has the figures.
I can’t recall so many high profile players keeling over.
Overweight amateurs in Sunday leagues may well have died, but players at the peak of their profession?
I don’t think so.
This must be true….
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_association_footballers_who_died_while_playing
Play with the age lists and look at the injuries down the years, headings/collisions/food poisoning/bowel problems etc
The more recent top level ones are predominantly heart.
My money is on the vaccines.
Mine, too. But I was surprised to see how many. And that list didn’t include those who “had a funny turn” aad carried on playing after treatment.
I wonder how many played on after their problems because there were no substitues available, or in the days when they weren’t allowed.
Perhaps it was because they were kneeling – over? 🙂
I’m just the messenger, honest… https://www.gulftoday.ae/news/2020/05/28/coronavirus-is-like-your-wife-says-indonesian-minister
A man with a brave sense of humour.
If she dissents, he can always flog her. (Take that how you like!!)
‘Corona is like your wife. Initially, you tried to control it… then you realise that you can’t. Then you learn to live with it,” Mahfud said.
I have passed this on to Caroline for comment!
I hope you took shelter first…
Tearing up Northern Ireland Protocol risks £500m of taxpayers’ money
Government has spent a huge amount of money in creating a post-Brexit Irish Sea border
Article by the hyper odious James Crisp : https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/12/15/tearing-northern-ireland-protocol-puts-half-billion-pounds-taxpayers/
The Brexit ‘deal’ is already proving to be be – along with everything else the bunglingly incompetent buffoon has touched – a surrender to the EU and a sell out of the British people.
Amongst the BTL Comments
“Thanks all those remoaners who forced us to remove “no deal” from the negotiating table – this is your fault.”
But with an 80 seat majority the very first thing that Boris Johnson should have done to get Brexit done was to put “No Deal” firmly back on the table before agreeing to anything with the completely untrustworthy EU.
Waste it, then.
It isn’t as though they haven’t wasted far more on less crucial things, is it?
I see that Doris is already panicking again. …”Boris set to discuss crisis in 5PM press conference as his own experts call for ‘Plan C’ with NHS in ‘peril’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10312029/Omicron-hotspot-London-seeing-Covid-cases-rise-faster-wave.html
Hospitalisations are not shooting up, and are at less that 1/4 of the ‘peak’ in January. Deaths 38 (all alleged convid deaths, no distinction between WITH and FROM) compared to multiple times that in January (many of which may have been caused by jabs in the frail elderly).
They are, once again, ignoring evidence and facts that this scariant is far less likely to lead to serious illness or death. ANd the hospitals are NOT near ‘overwhelmed’.
They are still using the unscientific way of counting convid deaths as being within 28 days of a positive ‘test’ result (from notoriously inaccurate, over-processed samples).
They are just itching to tighten restrictions. They wouldn’t dare tell us to not have family get-togethers at Christmas again – though SNazi Sturgeon has put a limit of 3 households – but will more than likely announce a lockdown at new Year, blaming us for seeing too many people at Christmas.
Perhaps our rebellious MPs will do what is necessary and resign the whip to force this government to reconsider its actions, nah, just a pipe dream.
Was just opining to an elderly chum who rang up this evening that the “rebels” were just grandstanding. They knew from the numbers voting for that there was no risk of defeat and that there were too many of them to have the whip removed.
Such is my state of trust in politicians that that was my thought too, Conway.
Cynics ‘R Us, Paul!
Regretfully.
:-((
Agreed, it was just pure theatre designed to fool their constituents. If they are genuinely concerned about mine, yours and others freedoms I expect them to resign the whip to bring about change.
Not going to happen is it!
Nope. It was a risk-free exercise.
This is the important statement – “Government modelling predicts 400,000 people are catching the mutant virus every day, with the strain spreading faster than testing can keep up.”
It’s all bullshit and spreadsheet, no real life data.
I had a call this afternoon from the doc’s surgery telling me I hadn’t had the booster and there was an appointment available on Saturday. I told the very nice lady that I’d had the two previous jabs and had developed these red marks on my arm. There was a slight pause and then she said, “Oh dear.” The tone of her voice was very telling and I told her I was not going to have the booster. That was entirely up to me was the response. She asked if MH was of like mind so I gave him the phone and he told her No and said he didn’t trust one word this government said- again she said it was his choice. Neither did she sound surprised. MH reckons a lot of people are saying No.
Yup,I’ve had two calls and emails, the ladies on the phone were not surprised.
I was getting daily texts from our health centre for over a week. On Monday, after the scruffy git gave his latest panic-mode address, they posted on their farcebook page about cancelling all ‘routine’ and non-emergency work (no timescale given but they’ll spin it as long as possible, (can’t have patients cluttering up their very spacious – and now chairless – massive waiting room) to ‘concentrate on the booster drive.’ bad luck if a patient finds a suspicious lump or other cancer warning signs – I doubt they would consider that sufficiently urgent, maybe ‘take an over-the-counter pain relief’ at best.
That can’t have been one of the Rottweiler receptionists.
I think she’s actually a nurse. She called us earlier this year re the original jabs.
I feel sorry for the practice nurses. At our place, they seem to take the vast majority of face-to-face appointments as well as phone calls.
Last year no-one died from ‘flu. This year, no-one will catch a cold.
Sir Gareth Edwards gets stuck in at new hospital garden
https://www.penarthtimes.co.uk/news/19749740.sir-gareth-edwards-gets-stuck-new-hospital-garden/
My Mother moved out of that hospital a week ago, and will be right peeved she didn’t get to meet him. She would keep a little vial of the soil he walked on, if she could, and say “goodnight” to it every night.
Contrary to the pleading of Dr Robert Malone* not to use the nRNA Vaxx on Children for clear and serious medical reasons, the G1T in No 10 is urging parents to get 12-15 year olds vaccinated before next term…
*Dr. Robert Malone
Chief Medical & Regulatory Officer,
MD, MS, Northwestern School of Medicine, Harvard Medical School fellow – Global Clinical Research Scholar (2016), original Inventor of the mRNA Vaccine Platform used in the Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines
https://globalcovidsummit.org/news/live-stream-event-physicians-alerting-parents
342869+ up ticks,
Evening S,
The treatment of 1400 / 1600 children
in rotherham should be used as a common denominator in regards to
lab/lib/con / politico’s / employees, lest we WANT to forget for the party’s sake.
Too late for my 6 year old grandchild in Canada.
Sorry to hear that. I hope it is not as bad as feared.
Me too. if suggestions as to effects on future fertility have any truth in them, which only time will tell, maybe my son will never become a grandparent.
342868+ up ticks,
C’mon London’s not far,triggering the unseating of kahn,
https://twitter.com/buitengebieden_/status/1471157159639592973
“A double murderer who sexually abused more than 100 female corpses will never be released from prison.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-59601656
They’ll probably be burying other news while reporting things like this.
Ladies, and the few gentleman Nottlers, look away now.
Blimey, and I thought my subtle ‘burying’ wasn’t in the best of taste.
I suspected I’d catch at least one…
HAPPY HOUR –
Ada ” Has anyone invited us to Christmas lunch Bert?
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Bert “No pet….. we’ve been invited to a booster jab at the local hospital”.
Bert “Only the undertakers”
Oh dear I can tell you’re aggravated,…….. don’t get the needle Ada………
Ada:” if I die of Covid before Christmas what will you do?”
Bert: “I’ll invite David Fuller to give you a Christmas stuffing”
Eurgghhh..
That’s me for this quite mild day. Colder tomorrow (Cold in winter – shock).
Have a jolly evening.
A demain.
Well, after a fairly useful day up the garden, I was absobloobylutely fuming earlier on.
Walked to Cromford to pick up the van from being serviced and started to drive home.
Accelerated up the road in first from the garage and as I was beginning to change into second, the engine revs dropped right down and stopped accelerating.
Limped up the road to an old quarry entrance where I pulled in and tried to rev the engine. VERY sluggish to pick up so turned round and drove back to Cromford and back to the garage.
No idea of the fault, so left it there and walked back home.
HOWEVER, just typing up my whinge when the garage called me. The new Mass Airflow Meter that had been fitted a couple of weeks ago, had gone tits up. So they replaced it under warranty and, fingers crossed, the van seems ok now.
At least I can get to Derby for a 10am meeting with stepson’s new social care person and detour via the Blue Monkey Brewery Shop on the way home!!
https://bluemonkeybrewery.com/
Their dark ales are rather palatable.
342869+ up ticks,
Hussy, anybodies for a meal worm,
https://twitter.com/buitengebieden_/status/1471174171463983116
342869+ up ticks,
O2O,
Did you lip read the application after the nibble, ” bloody lovely that was, that was”
I’ve just received an e-mail telling me I’m due a tax rebate.
It’s a great pity that the scammers concerned can’t be imprisoned for tax fraud.
342869+ up ticks,
The andrew kneel chaps says,
Neil says:
You have a right not to be vaccinated. But I have a right not have you near me in a restaurant or on a plane.
Then surely the operative three word reply MUST be
…. off then, twat is optional.
342869+ up ticks,
Evening G,
Do not let me detain you kneel, if the piss is off get me a pint of lager.
I would never buy anyone any cat’s piss! Only proper, decent, cask-conditioned English ale is bought on my round.
No Dogs. No Blacks. No Irish. No Unvaccinated.
342869+ up ticks,
Evening A,
Fact arriving shortly,
Funny thing is it is a black, Irish greyhound owner, doing the saying, bejabbers.
Amazing just how little time it took Andrew Neil to lose all his credibility.
342869+ up ticks,
Evening R,
As with many, playing a part that pays best.
Quite so Mr Neil.
You stay at home and cower.
Evening, all. Where has the headline letter writer been for the last 18 months or so? It’s ALL been scaremongering, with dodgy data, suspect stats, fudged figures and messy modelling!
And downright lies.
I couldn’t find alliteration for that 🙂
342869+ up ticks,
Plan C, for Cinder.
https://twitter.com/miss_anthrop75/status/1470924257311997952
Only one thing to say today.
FOB
F… off Boris.
Twitter, which dubs itself the arbiter of medical misinformation through its constellation of conflicted ‘fact-checkers,’ will start imposing penalties on users who claim that vaccinated people can spread Covid-19…
…a claim made by none other than the US CDC Director, the NIH, Facui, and countless other officials.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ac747a659b02e8bc949aacad101213b8978ece1d432d32df6fdfc8973e5546aa.png
Omicron mathematical model V4.0
Version 1.0 – exponential model of Omicron replication at doubling every two days
Version 2.0 – Pendleton adjustment to include effect on population
Version 2.1 – replication rate set to double every 1.5 days in line with HoC statement
Version 3.0 – boundary conditions set for day 37 to stop population going negative. View — uploads.disquscdn.com
Version 4.0 – cell formula replication error corrected to balance total population (Thanks to Kent) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ef299243a01feda6f5f882f752813f9de016190d047bc7149965eb4e7d552480.jpg
Where are all the sick people?
Inside the Cabinet Office?
Inside the Cabinet Office?
There are no sick people in my model – just 70 million of us who are existing with it.
The form in which they exist in another matter that I am not yet able to work out.
My comment is aimed at those who believe the huge numbers put out – if it’s 400,000 or whatever a day, there should be an awful lot of ill folk around. Or, if not, maybe it’s not so serious anyhow. One or the other.
My question is why on earth are all these people, or any of these people, taking blasted tests? That’s the only place where “cases” are picked up.
Many are people who work in schools or care homes.
Others succumb to peer pressure – eg I’ve been invited to coffee with a friend who has recovered from surgery – but she wants us to take a test first. I’ve never done one before but she’s a good friend so on this occasion I’ll do as she asks.
Others just think they have to if they sneeze.
The spreadsheet model I created was not intended to address illness because it is difficult to define it.
Indeed in the case of mental illness a person must be persuaded that they are ill before they can be convinced that they need treatment. Even ‘healthy’ people may have to go to a doctor to be told they are ill.
The sad thing is that there are so many branches of medicine that you are sure to be able to find a practitioner who will say you need treatment for an illness you didn’t think you had.
This means that most people are probably ill and don’t know it so the huge numbers are true for the people who think they are ill and false for the people who think they are not ill and are none the wiser.
Today’s announcement of a scary increase in the number of Omicron infections would suggest that the UK has passed day 24 of Omicron presence in the UK.
This is an entry in the V4.0 spreadsheet model which shows 65,536 for day 24 – this doesn’t really change the situation as we knew it yesterday with a virus replication rate of doubling every 1.5 days.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/86b40e66182bbab19cad5ce5839b7b0f9978300b500492487c4c54a17d9cc4b3.jpg
You shold trim the decimal points (what’s 0.3719 of a person?), and format the numbers to show , or gap for thousands. Makes it easier to read.
You’re not supposed to read the numbers on the spreadsheet.
It’s more important to visualise from the graph how soon the tsunami is going to hit.
Today’s announcement of a scary increase seems to be due to a data glitch. Well, that’s what the UK Health Security Agency says (just that the media forgot to report that bit):
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1041210/20211215_OS_Daily_Omicron_Overview.pdf
Solar Dynamics Observatory composite image of the Sun’s active regions over the decade 2010-2020:
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c4dd888c9faf75580393e34891a7ed61c0bf645e622e99a5eb8c82e77759557d.png
Corona virus I suppose.
Almost certainly – it has got a bit of temperature and can be very feverish….
Needs a plasma trans-fusion.
Oh my chron!
342869+ up ticks,
The only comparison that can be made by decent peoples is, in the Berlin bunker at a quarter to eight adolf
calling up phantom battalions.
The United Kingdom received yet another direct address from the Prime Minister Wednesday evening, with Boris Johnson making a return to wartime metaphors that were so common in the early part of the pandemic, while his top scientist appealed to the public to stop socialising now to enjoy Christmas.
342869+ up ticks,
May one ask as an American turk what side was he on in the war ?
Boris Again Reaches For WW2 Imagery to Push Covid Booster Campaign
Which war?
342869+ up ticks,
Evening ITP,
The war of Independence of course that commenced on the 24/6/2016,as with a great many lab/lib/con
pro eu coalition supporters they were NOT for the home side.
And now a rational look at the latest stats:
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ccdebb49ee894089af4bb7c642d146c0d03da65f9dd5ecb02658f2fe6dc828b0.png
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e60a1a2cae7c731428c881f8b4855218131596193fc43c9c0f036c288b3bd50f.png
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e3fad19a609c260266e192b0d0ef6625806b9d7bdba9d8d91353ec4acceba99b.png
Oh my goodness, death rates rise as the older you get, over 90s death rate is high, well lock down the country, destroy the economy, close schools, introduce passes, hold press briefings. PANIC, PANIC, PANIC……
Hopefully there’ll be a good turnout. I just need to get my laundry done early on Saturday morning and shift myself! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/71d39c78e0f102a3c5fb619f85e68f46a15d4630763ae83f43a0369fc78ca950.jpg
I’ll be with you in Spirit Sue as I’m sure many Nottlers will be too!
Wear a giant nappy with a face painted on it.
Then you’re certain to be on the BBC News.
I can’t make it, but I’ll be with you in spirit.
#metoo
Shout for #metoo!
Michael Jackson reincarnated as a duck, who knew?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSwcQydnulA
Totally quackers! Great fun.
One of your Indians got the runs has it?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2021/12/15/1612-MATT-GALLERY-WEB-P1_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ_vEN7c6bHu2jJnT8.png?imwidth=640
Can’t quite even smile at that, I’m afraid.
‘Night All
Black Swan………..
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/49dc5775a3ba6792027a8ab2965b69a68d76417e2a4ebf366aeaf7ab1d9e4c29.png
Edit
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6abf6e88717ae0d1304ac3a8615e428c4433d57c8a2d5bafa234050bf54b1ea2.jpg
A piece of good sense spoiled only by the use of ‘fantastic’.
The Dix fellow is deluded if he thinks the vaccines efficacious in any way whatsoever. They kill and maim otherwise healthy people. He is correct in wishing real serious diseases should be a priority in the NHS.
Covid is a side show, a veritable shit show even.
The Dix fellow is deluded if he thinks the vaccines efficacious in any way whatsoever. They kill and maim otherwise healthy people. He is correct in wishing real serious diseases should be a priority in the NHS.
Covid is a side show, a veritable shit show even.
https://www.fhi.no/en/id/vaccines/coronavirus-immunisation-programme/coronavirus-vaccine/
“The purpose of vaccination against COVID-19 is to prevent disease or to give a milder disease course without being exposed to serious side effects. We will inform about the effect and potential side effects so everyone can make an informed choice.”
Norweian Public Health Institute – in English.
A touch of open-ness?
https://www.fhi.no/en/id/vaccines/coronavirus-immunisation-programme/coronavirus-vaccine/
“The purpose of vaccination against COVID-19 is to prevent disease or to give a milder disease course without being exposed to serious side effects. We will inform about the effect and potential side effects so everyone can make an informed choice.”
Norweian Public Health Institute – in English.
A touch of open-ness?
Jethro was probably not to everyone’s taste , but he was quite funny , if you closed your ears to his rudeness.
He was so West country , and well loved , humour could be coarse but he was as rough as a glass of fresh scrumpy .
His ability to create laughter was a gift . Many people will mourn his death , he died from Covid , he was double jabbed and boostered !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUopUrwj79Y
Thanks for all the laughs Jethro….RIP
Plum
I have tears in my eyes laughing .
You might enjoy this .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnr3gsRNwS0
I have a Cornish friend who after many pints can recite Jethro’s jokes as if he was him. At the end of a good session he can literally have people falling off their chairs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_axHV2wx8RA
****BREAKING NEWS*****
The government says everyone will die.
God says “no shit Sherlock”
Oh no, the bastards will probably tax everyone too.
So not death and taxes- simply death taxes?
Both.
https://mobile.twitter.com/70s_70sgirl/status/1471167585563680768
70sGirly says it like it is.
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Broken link?
This is what I meant to send! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a87801ae72945980a974829182e8a1b1e514a236212df6c57e98bdf1208432c3.png
Saw a framed cartoon today that made me think of Phizee; dog sitting on a bar stool – One Tequila … Two Tequila … Three Tequila … [empty bar stool] Floor! 🙂
Is the last word Gaelic? Where’s Duncan?
Don’t try and kid on you aren’t a huge fan of the Krankies!! You’re no foolin’ us, pal!
There has been some talk in the media about whether school/church nativity plays should go ahead in these times of terror. Without wishing to sound like Max Bygraves, let me tell you a story….
In my last year at primary school- I was 11- and was still being made to go to church and Sunday school. The church, a Congregational, was putting on a nativity for the Sunday evening service prior to 25th. With spot on casting, I was to play the Angel Gabriel. My dad painted me a gorgeous pair of wings which were attached to my angel attire and hooked over my little fingers with brass curtain rings.
Everyone kept telling me to speak up and speak clearly. At this point I should say that I had a very clear speaking voice and could be somewhat loud. However, I took all the advice to heart.
I was to make my entrance at the back of the church and announce, ” I am the Angel Gabriel and I have glad tidings of great joy.” (Or summat like that.)
So, the door opened and the Angel bellowed, in a voice that would have caused an avalanche in the Alps, the angel’s words. Half the congregation in the back of the church, were lifted out their seats and several jumped out of their skins.
Then I had to “fly” down the aisle to the crib scene.
It was my first and last appearance as Gabriel. Not sure why ;-))
Sounds like my father’s business partner’s daughter, who at the tender age of 7 bellowed “I AM YOUR FAIRY GODMOTHER!” to a quaking Cinderella.
A few years ago, my great neice, then about 5, announced proudly to her parents that she was going to appear in ‘An Acitivity Play’.
It is funny how small children get words almost right. There is a hymn which has the words in it…Pity my simplicity. I asked my mother where “plicity” was and why we had to feel sorry for the mice there.
Sarah Kennedy (Radio 3) told of one mite who decided to ad-lib:
“Unto you a child will be born,…. but don’t get attached to him – he’ll be dead by easter….”
It’s one of the reasons I loved teaching- you just never knew what the little blighters were going to come out with.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4659ccdd80113b90998d6e71accd1aeb40bbad5a4e1c80afbf7f8a6cc62deb22.jpg
I am not all that familiar with cats paws , but how many toes do they have , normally.
I think he’s got his slippers on the wrong feet! They normally have 4!
It is a genetic defect. But then whether the cat is born a tabby, a ginger or a black and white is also a genetic defect. I have this on the authority of a German friend who was the director of the Berlin Technological University.
Why a defect? It’s just a variation. Cats come in various colours but the most natural is probably tabby.
Just quoting a German geneticist friend of the family, Monika.
Her father Franz Gross was the head of research for Brown Boverie Kent, now ABB, a Swiss company and with a research base in Neckargemund near Heidelberg. (sorry about the missing umlaut). Bloody iPhone has certain inadequacies.
Edit:
Franz was a pioneer of battery technology and patented early batteries we now take for granted.
He told me that nuclear fusion was an enigma and unobtainable because the magnetic power required far exceeded the potential generative power.
On the occasion of the fire at York Minster which partially destroyed a transept of the cathedral, we were staying with him in Neckargemund. At breakfast Franz addressed me and said that there had been a fire at York Minster but that the Five Sisters were intact and unaffected.
I cannot imagine people of this country having an intimate knowledge of the history of German cathedral architecture, as Franz had of our English Architecture.
Franz Gross knew that the five sisters were ancient grisaille (green) glass Early English Lancet window survivors from mediaeval times and quite unique.
I had to explain to my family at the table the meaning of Franz’s words.
Thankfully as a student of Architecture with an intimate knowledge of our cathedrals our party I imagined escaped embarrassment.
Why are the English so ignorant of their heritage?
The Germans have a greater appreciation of our past accomplishments than we do. Many of us admire the accomplishments of Germans.
We are United in artistic appreciation but disunited by the application of futile and useless politics.
Usually four on the back paws and four or five on the front.
Our late cat Suzie was a polydactyl – she had extra thumbs on the front and small extra ones on the back paws – but not as many as this one!
Good night all
A pizza carbonara
A custard tart with fresh raspberries.
https://twitter.com/truthbeforepc/status/1471240852710301697?s=20
Precisely. A million upticks.
Goodnight, everyone.
More evidence they – and certainly not Peston – don’t live by the cr@p they spout:
https://twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1471237450077028356?s=20
Ah, the deadly Pest
onilence!I was going to write “Reasons to be grumpy: Christmas postage stamps with QR codes” when I realised that it was even worse – the designer of the 2nd class stamp has mistaken seven swans a-swimming for the seven trumpets of The Revelation…
It all ends here!
Trumpeter swans?
Where are their mutes?
Petitions to sign:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/597665
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/593122
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/599841
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/603010
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/602282
Just four more sigs needed for the referendum one.
Done. I had already signed petitions 1 and 3. No 1, the referendum petition, is now over the 100,000.
All done, but I can’t see the moronic ones taking any notice!
No – got some replies this morning indicating that the decision was made on Tuesday to disregard any other course of action.
Don’t tell Witless or the buffoon but I made it through the day without being one of his forecasted trillions of fatalities.
They would be devastated to think that the public might consider them to be lying turds.
Good night all 😴
Good night, Ndovu – and everyone else on here.
..
Dalrymple
In my studies of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the
purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to
inform but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to
reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they
are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced
to repeat lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of
probity. To assent to obvious lies is …in some small way to become
evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even
destroyed. A variety of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think
if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is
intended to.
Good morning all – Thursday’s new page is here.
Good Morning Geoff et al.
Morning, Geoff!