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Morning GG
Good morning all. That clip yesterday of the Phillips woman using her mobile during what should have been an extremely important debate (especially for her), made me think that these mps should be treated like schoolchildren and have to hand their mobiles in before that can enter the debating chamber. Disgusting behaviour at any level.
Where's Mossad?
Good morning chums and Geoff. Problems with Wordle today – Got the wrong first letter at the fourth attempt, but alas there were about another four possibilities and not enough time to get the right one.
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Good morning, everyone.
Good morning DB.
I suspect East Dorset has the same cloud cover as we have here in South Dorset?
Morning, Maggie. The sun is shining here at 0730.
Good morning all,
Slight breeze , cloudy,15c .
Pip spaniel was struggling to climb onto the kingsize bed at 5am , Moh leant over and hauled him on apparently , and the dog landed on top of me .. 15kgs of hairy spaniel , whereupon he then tunnelled under the duvet cover .. disruption .
I couldn't cope with that so climbed out of bed , wandered downstairs , cat said hello , fed her, I filled the kettle , rubbed my eyes and said hello to Wednesday morning !
Cheer up, chuck, it's a sunny day so your other half will probably be off golfing later today so he will be out of your hair! Lol. (And Good Morning, btw.)
Morning Elsie .
Are you still growing gooseberries?
Yep off golfing on the dot of 8am .
Now about to tee off!
But of course, Maggie. Nothing quite like gooseberry crumble – except perhaps rhubarb crumble.
You'll have to rig up some steps for him! Sunny 🌞 here so far.
IKEA do a nice wooden 3-step stool that would work. Advantage is, you can sit on it or use it to stand on & reach into the top of cupboards.
or saw the legs off the bed – morning Paul
😘
Morning Sue 😘
Some legs even unbolt.
Morning!
Or unscrew.
'Morning All
'Nuff Said……..
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Good Morning, all
Sunny, scorcha later
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Starmer’s platitudes show Britain frozen out of big decisions on Iran
There is no reason for Iran or Israel – and certainly not the US – to listen to a word the PM or his Government say
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/world-news/2025/06/17/TELEMMGLPICT000428969944_17501924119350_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqJF_NiVdWsmM_uQMyFiSrW7-WUbX4ptbp05yqJa4Afzs.jpeg?imwidth=1280
Donald Trump and Sir Keir Starmer: The US president seems poised to leave the PM on the sidelines on Iran Credit: Stefan Rousseau/PA Wire/PA Images
17 June 2025 10:00pm BST
David Blair
Expressions of concern, calls for de-escalation. As the 20-year crisis over Iran’s nuclear ambitions reaches its historic climax, Britain has resorted to a policy of platitudes.
Sir Keir Starmer wants no part in Israel’s offensive against the Iranian regime and its nuclear plants.
He will keep Britain as far away as possible from this campaign, and there is no reason to suppose that his position will change even if American forces were to join the assault, as anonymous US officials have been hinting.
That is an entirely defensible position. Israel’s bombs could yet achieve nothing but impose a short delay in Iran’s quest for a nuclear weapon. The uranium enrichment plant at Natanz has been severely damaged, wrecking thousands of centrifuges, but the second such facility, buried in a mountain at Fordow, seems to have escaped attack so far.
If Iran’s regime manages to survive the onslaught and then repair the damage in a few months before going for a nuclear weapon as rapidly as possible, then Israel will have failed and Britain’s decision to stay out will look entirely sensible.
But the campaign may not end that way and, in the meantime, Sir Keir’s empty bromides doom Britain to diplomatic irrelevance.
There is simply no reason for Iran or Israel – and certainly not the United States – to listen to a word that the Prime Minister or his Government say on this subject. Britain wishes to have nothing to do with the enterprise, and therefore it cannot expect to have any influence over what happens next.
That leaves Sir Keir with one deeply traditional goal of British diplomacy: to avoid an open breach with America. Hence the Prime Minister’s claims that Donald Trump is fully behind “de-escalation” and has no intention of joining the military campaign.
Having dined with Mr Trump at the G7 summit on Monday, Sir Keir declared: “There is nothing the president said that suggests he’s about to get involved in this conflict.”
Alas, straight after the summit, Mr Trump said plenty to suggest exactly that.
He declared variously that “we” have “total control of the skies over Iran” and “we” know “exactly where the so-called ‘Supreme Leader’ is hiding” and Ayatollah Khamenei’s only way out was “unconditional surrender”.
John Healey, the Defence Secretary, claimed heroically that Mr Trump was “leading the calls for Iran to do a deal”, which is true if your definition of “calls” includes issuing blood-curdling threats.
If America now joins forces with Israel – and if this crisis ends with the total destruction of Iran’s nuclear programme and perhaps the downfall of the regime – then Britain will have been a bystander in a moment of epoch-making importance.
That is not necessarily a bad thing, but given that British diplomats and politicians have been deeply engaged in the Iran nuclear issue ever since the Natanz plant was first discovered in 2002, it seems strange, after all that effort, to choose irrelevance at the most decisive hour of the saga.
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Jacob Smith
9 hrs ago
Why should anyone listen to Starmer when he thinks he can get away with classing rural broadband as defence spending?
If he wants to play with the big boys he needs to act like a big boy.
stuart larner
8 hrs ago
Reply to Jacob Smith
Seriously useless!
Ian Jenkins
9 hrs ago
Starmer always waits for someone else to make the first move before making up his latest opinion. Quite pathetic and an embarrassment as our PM
Paul Maggs
8 hrs ago
Gosh, it’s almost as if Starmer and Lammy are completely irrelevant on the world stage isn’t it ?
Because they are completely irrelevant, not only on the world stage.
Morning all!
Good Morning All. 18C sunny.
Morning Johnny a sunny 12C
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Tim Stanley
Iranian ambassador riles MPs with his lies as conflict with Israel rages
Stubborn envoy dodges questions on arming Russia, Tehran’s nuclear ambitions and death toll in war
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2025/06/17/TELEMMGLPICT000429067303_17501866983060_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bq-IWLY18X4-CzgyIcjLEAj0k9u7HhRJvuo-ZLenGRumA.jpeg?imwidth=1280 Mr Mousavi steeples his fingers as he gives answers from behind a desk
Waiting to watch the Iranian ambassador lie to the foreign affairs committee, a Parliament security guard told me I couldn’t bring my bag into the room. I asked why, as press usually can; he reacted as if I’d pulled a gun.
He accused me of disrespect and gave me “one warning”. What did I say? It wasn’t my words but my “body language”. He claimed I had rolled my eyes.
“I’d ask you to have respect for the committee,” he instructed. A tall order – it’s my job to take the mick out of it. But I’ve been through enough Iranian border posts to know never to argue with a man in a black uniform, so I sat through the committee exuding the utmost respect, holding my eyelids open with my fingers lest they roll, and nodding at everything said by His Most Serene Excellency, Mustapha Leak.
Which was hard because it was very silly. Emily Thornberry introduced the ambassador graciously – this woman wants to live – and observed “how very stressful it must be to be living in Iran right now”. I’ll say: the head of the military was killed four days after his predecessor, before the poor fellow even had a chance to complete his workplace orientation. He died without learning the fire drill.
The precision of the kill suggests the Israelis are learning with practice. Hitherto, when they tried to assassinate a Hamas fighter, they’d level four hospitals. Yet now they can land a drone on a speck of uranium and prick its atoms, one by one.
The ambassador – middle-aged, simply dressed, with a nice watch – launched into a diatribe against the “terrorist and criminal … Israeli regime”. When he passed the 15-minute mark, Emily informed him we only had the room for an hour. “May I finish?” he demanded, unused to being interrupted mid-interrogation, and looked about for some electrodes.
Though I normally mock MPs, I will give credit to Abtisam Mohamed for asking him why, if Iran is peaceful, it is drafting legislation to leave the nuclear proliferation treaty? (Parliament is independent, he answered: gosh that was difficult not to laugh at). Also, Blair McDougall for asking why Iran arms Russia? And John Whittingdale for asking after a dissident journalist stabbed in London.
“This is an irrelevant question!” replied Seyed Ali Mousavi. The Islamic Revolution is about “self-determination”; its proxies are “liberation movements”. And their fighters, presumably, explode with joy.
The ambassador’s little friend, sitting behind, handed him a note: I think it read: “Do better or you’ll never see your goat again.” But Dan Carden, who has gravitated from Leftie troublemaker to Labour statesman by investing in a pair of glasses, pressed him on how many citizens his regime has recently killed – and his embarrassing response was to insist his republic is a “government” not a “regime”.
Yet he’d called Israel a “regime”, too! Thornberry said she had invited the Israelis to take part, but they had declined to respond to these insults. Just as well. We’d be sitting under a pile of rubble.
The division bell rang and the ambassador left the building to go and get stoned. No doubt civilians are dying in Iran, but its citizens also hate this man’s lying, murdering superiors – and disrespecting one’s government is a first step towards democracy.
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Carpe Jugulum
10 hrs ago
Iran executed/murdered over 900 of its own citizens last year. This is a murderous theocracy that beats young women to death for not wearing a headscarf.
The same regime is THE sponsor of Middle East terrorism. They have no mandate beyond that of a delusional dotard who thinks bigotry, murder and oppression are legitimate tools of his profoundly sick version of religion. There are NO redeeming features within the government of Iran. None. Zero.
And yet we have activist scum in the UK marching as apologists for this filth.
That is not ‘diversity’ it is division and the UK public are heartily sick of it.
"Iran executed/murdered over 900 of its own citizens last year. " – Starmer government taking copious notes.
Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei warns: 'In the name of the noble Haidar, the battle begins.'
He's not far wrong there. Fast forward to 2065..
The Mayors of Birmingham, London & Rochdale issue a joint statement paraphrasing Ayatollah Khomeini in 1979 denouncing Westernising trends as an attack on Islam. They argued that Christians, Jews and enemies of Islam could never be judges and decide on things that affected Muslims. A referendum was held to replace the constitutional monarchy with an Islamic state. 98% voted for an Islamic Republic.
If they have any bombs left after sorting out the Ayatollahs, perhaps we could politely ask the USAF to drop them off on their way home. (on Birmingham, London, and Rochdale)
Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei warns: 'In the name of the noble Haidar, the battle begins.'
He's not far wrong there. Fast forward to 2065..
The Mayors of Birmingham, London & Rochdale issue a joint statement paraphrasing Ayatollah Khomeini in 1979 denouncing Westernising trends as an attack on Islam. They argued that Christians, Jews and enemies of Islam could never be judges and decide on things that affected Muslims. A referendum was held to replace the constitutional monarchy with an Islamic state. 98% voted for an Islamic Republic.
Good morning Johnny
So I guess there will be no need for prem baby units , and the nurse in jail for those assumed baby deaths will be freed after all.
There are so many ifs and buts, what happens if a partner loses his temper and punches his pregnant partner , or babies in utero are farmed for their spare parts and hormones.
Hippocratic oath.. says do no harm !
Yet they say there is no change in the 24 week time limit for a legal abortion, just no prosecution for women who decide to have a do it yourself one later on.
So, for example, if a woman is happy to have a baby when she is 24 weeks pregnant and then, of a whim changes her mind at 35 weeks, she can legally have an abortion?
Some argue that as life begins with conception any abortion is killing an unborn child; others argue that abortion is no longer acceptable when the unborn baby could survive outside the womb.
Stella Creasy has already complained that having children has cramped her style socially stopping her going to parties with her friends so expect her now to be at the forefront of the movement for post-natal abortion allowing mothers to abort their babies up to the first anniversary of their birth if their existence proves tiresome and inconvenient.
Her children ate going to be sooooo screwed up….
407726+ up ticks,
Morning Each,
The grooming gangs report exposes the moral cowardice of officialdom
This has been the case for decades, that is giving succour to these parties as in, the lab/lib/con mass uncontrolled / government controlled immigration /
paedophile umbrella coalition party.
The kids have suffered the burden created by the tribal
supporter / voters eyes tight shut, party before Country, are still suffering and WILL continue to suffer if this coalition is still being given the breath of life.
This is not just a walk away stain upon the Country's character it's to be noted as a fact, and will enter history as such that a good percentage of society have consented to the foreign paedophile wearing a burka and being given ALL the " untouchable " rights also.
This inquiries outcome will be the last chance for the herd to right odious wrongs and truly protect the children first & foremost NOT THE BLOODY PARTY.
By the by,
Remember browns open mike " bigoted woman" she still voted labour.
407726+ up ticks,
020.
The grooming gangs report exposes the moral cowardice of officialdom
and members of, societies eyes tight shut brigade,without their input this would have been revealed far sooner.
Yo and Good moaning to you all.
Off to get everything above my neck fixed today.
Peacocks terrorising village renowned for its Spitfire pilots history
Thirty of the birds are plaguing residents by damaging gardens and cars
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/17/peacocks-terrorising-village-known-for-producing-spitfires/
“There was a meeting in the village hall to discuss the issue, with one lady suggesting we needed to reduce the numbers, and it was attended by about 60 people.
“The conclusion was that the peacocks would be staying but she was welcome to move on if she wanted to.”
But, do Peacocks pay Council Tax
Having brain surgery?
It's not rocket science.
teeth, eyes, ears!
My brain is/are eleswhere
When you need them!!
Stephen Pollard
Is Stella Creasy Britain’s worst politician?
The MP for Walthamstow is not only wrong about everything, but compounds that with a patronising manner
17 June 2025 1:14pm BST
Stephen Pollard
For all my adult life I have been an advocate of the “Jenkins’ Law”, a guide to public policy based on the writings of the commentator Sir Simon Jenkins. Jenkins’ Law is simple, useful and infallible: whatever he writes, the opposite is correct. In recent years, however, a variant of this law has emerged.
Not so much a variant as a complementary alternative: Creasy’s Law. The principle is similar. Whatever Stella Creasy, the Labour MP for Walthamstow since 2010, says or writes, the opposite is correct.
This week Creasy’s Law has, once again, proved its utility. Ms Creasy is behind an amendment to the Crime and Policing Bill which would remove all legal prohibitions on abortion up to and including during birth, even if the baby is fully capable of surviving outside the womb.
It is widely accepted that the law surrounding abortion requires modernisation, not least because of advances in medical technology; and, from the other perspective, what many see as the unjust prosecution of women such as Nicola Packer, who was cleared by a jury last month of illegally terminating a pregnancy after taking abortion pills during lockdown.
But Creasy’s amendment goes far beyond modernisation; it is about removing any bar to abortion, no matter how near to birth – or even during birth – by scrapping the crime of intentional destruction of a child “capable of being born alive”, as well as removing all other legal bars on late-term abortions.
Creasy says all she wants to do is remove criminal sanctions, but in reality her amendments would simply remove the current 24-week limit with no replacement. In addition, she wants abortion to be classed as a “basic human right”.
The usefulness of Creasy’s Law is especially clear here. Even amongst the country’s abortion clinics her proposals are regarded as wrong-headed. Rachael Clarke of the British Pregnancy Advisory Service told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme last week that Creasy’s plan “is not the right way” to overhaul abortion laws.
“We are not supporting NC20 [Creasy’s amendments], and neither are any of the abortion providers in the country,” Clarke said. Nor does it seem the public supports Creasy. A ComRes poll from several years ago found only 1 per cent of women supporting abortion up to birth – a clear example of Creasy’s Law in action.
Creasy is such a useful figure to have in public life because her interests roam over many areas, and she is thus able to help the rest of us pinpoint immediately what to think by thinking the exact opposite. Probably her most notorious comment was in 2022, when she weighed in on one of her favourite issues: “Do I think some women were born with penises? Yes”.
Creasy has been a long-term advocate of ignoring biology and allowing men who pretend to be women to claim all the rights under law that they would have if they were actually women. It’s a shame so much time – and money – was spent clarifying the law around sex. There need never have been a Supreme Court ruling.
A few years ago Creasy wrote: “As I walk past everyone going to Christmas parties and drinks on my way to get the kids from nursery, yet again acutely aware the motherhood penalty is just a gift that keeps giving…. Not just flexible working we need but flexible networking too.” For Creasy, it seems, having children should not impact one’s life. Creasy’s Law is helpful here, too, showing that parenting involves a trade-off between the freedom to do whatever you want, whenever you want, and the needs arising from being a parent.
Creasy has advocated for aggravated criminal sentences as a hate crime for men who hold what she considers to be “misogynistic” beliefs. No need to go through a debate on this or look at the ideas underlying it; just apply Creasy’s Law to know it would be wrong.
It’s easy to look disapprovingly at Stella Creasy, who is not only wrong about everything but compounds that with a patronising manner which seems to treat anyone who disagrees with her as some kind of bigoted fool. Instead, we should see how useful she really is and turn more often to Creasy’s Law for guidance.
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Inmy Opinion
18 hrs ago
One of the puzzles of contemporary politics: how is that anyone – even a single one – voted for Stella Creasy.
CA Metcalfe
18 hrs ago
Reply to Inmy Opinion
Walthamstow, where I grew up (but now much changed) is a bizarre alliance of hard-core Islamic traditionalists (some of whom, like Anjem Choudary have graduated to outright terrorism) and woolly liberal artisan cake shop aficionados, like Mrs Creasy herself.
How she has held onto the Muslim vote I don't know; her love for Palestine, Gaza and Hamas can only take her so far.
Michael Currie
18 hrs ago
Reply to CA Metcalfe
Ha…. I probably bumped into you … lived in the village from ‘94 till c 2018 … and I agree with your points … she was scared stiff of the Muslim vote during the riots of 2012 ….think her window went in
Sophie King-Watt
1 hr ago
Reply to CA Metcalfe
"How she has held onto the Muslim vote I don't know"
She hasn't done anything. The Muslims vote Labour as the least worst option until they have sufficient numbers to start their own party. Their Labour vote will disappear in an instant, as will Creasy's MP status.
Margaret Steen
43 min ago
Reply to Sophie King-Watt
As can be seen already in other parts of the country.
Jonny Mac
18 hrs ago
Anyone who supports abortion when the child is capable of living is a monster. What's the difference between the child being attached to the umbilical or not?
"the motherhood penalty" – if you think like that, don't have children. Simples.
There is more contraception available today than there ever was. Including the morning after pill – available from chemists. Really grinds my gears.
Agreed.
Here is the PIQ [person in question!!]
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Empty eyes.
Morning, all Y'all.
Sunny.
Utterly depressed at how the abortion law modifications is going.
Unless the foetus is badly deformed, a case that can be detected early in pregnancy, there is no excuse for abortion these days, as there is so much contraception available – except in the case of violence. But then, that can be addressed by abortion within 2 weeks of the first medical examination, as can the malformed foetus. Abortion at the moment of birth is murder, pure & simple.
And I post on behalf of all my family on this point.
According to Pearl Davis.. the vast majority of abortions are the result of a failed attempt to snare a 4×4 chad.
Reminds me of …
"What protection do Essex Girls use when having sex?
How would you know that?
I lived in that fine county some years ago….
You had a sheltered upbringing
Copper in Glasgow comes across a couple having sex in an alley, tells them to move on but Glaswegian girl gives him a mouthful of abuse so he arrests the bloke for having an offensive person on his weapon
You post on my behalf too, Paul. My husband's previous wife aborted their baby. He had no say. It was the end of their relationship.
We had a spontaneous abortion, and that was heartbreaking enough.
I had what seemed to be, decades ago..I remember the heartbreak (and also the guilt, could I have done something to cause/prevent it?) GP was very kind, a good man. Sorry you and your wife had this experience x
I’m sorry for your loss, Katie. Don’t beat yourself up about it, nobody would willingly cause that.
Of course, I wasn’t as close, as SWMBO was, but it hurts.
I was a childophobe until we had our own, now I’m the opposite, almost civilised, even.
Hoping for a grand-daughter, but t’Las have to get hooked up first.
Thanks Paul, it’s a long time ago but I still think of it occasionally. As you say, always hurts. And yes, your own are always different to the others. Sure your lass will get there – hormones make sure of it 🙂 …good luck x
Ah, after Second Son, a growth was found (the cause of the miscarriage) and so her uterus was removed. So, grandchildren will be the solution for us, except both lads aren’t in a relationship that might lead to that – sadly.
We are mad, quite mad. I hadn't realised that our nationwide shortage of camel herders was so dire that we were having to import them until I read this.
Qatari camel herder sexually assaulted woman while in UK for heart treatment
‘Immature’ 27-year-old dragged victim into lavatory cubicle at London clinic
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/briefs/2025/06/17/TELEMMGLPICT000429036721_17501711279050_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bq-IWLY18X4-CzgyIcjLEAj_SVWeZ_vEN7c6bHu2jJnT8.jpeg?imwidth=1280
Nasser al-Gherainiq is in custody awaiting sentencing Credit: Central News/Met Police
17 June 2025 3:55pm BST
A Qatari camel herder with no experience of women outside his family carried out a sex attack at a specialist heart clinic, a court heard.
Nasser al-Gherainiq assaulted the woman in a lavatory at a clinic in Marylebone linked to the Royal Brompton Hospital in Chelsea, south-west London. He had come to the UK to receive treatment for a rare heart condition.
The 27-year-old told the victim he needed to go to the lavatory and then pulled her inside the cubicle, Southwark Crown Court heard.
He denied two counts of attempted rape, but was convicted by a jury.
Al-Gherainiq admitted sexual assault and causing a person to engage in sexual activity without their consent.
In a victim impact statement read to the court, the woman said: “I was so scared. I felt frozen with fear. I couldn’t go anywhere. Although the incident lasted a few minutes, it felt like ages to me. I was very shocked to hear it was only five minutes.
‘My life is not the same’
“A few days after the incident I had huge anxiety and fear. I could not leave the house. My life has never been the same. My family still do not know what happened to me. I am so close to my family.
“It has been a lonely and isolated year for me. I am not the outgoing woman I used to be. I am withdrawn and highly anxious and overly cautious, especially when I’m on my own in an unfamiliar environment.”
Jane Bickerstaff KC, defending, told the court: “Once he has served his sentence he will immediately go back to Qatar. There is no reason for him to apply to remain here.”
She explained that, as a member of a conservative Bedouin tribe in Qatar, Al-Gherainiq would not have had much contact with women who were not members of his family.
“Until July 2023 he had never left Qatar,” she said. “He would have had minimal experience engaging with women outside a family context. The only woman he would have had any meaningful contact with is his mother.”
Referring to a pre-sentence report prepared on behalf of the defendant Ms Bickerstaff said: “Limited visits to Doha and a preference for a desert environment curtailed his exposure to urban and modern societal norms.
“This defendant would have had no experience whatsoever of interacting with a woman. We submit that he was equivalent to an immature and inexperienced adolescent. He completely failed to understand her true feelings.”
Al-Gherainiq, formerly of Mayfair, was remanded in custody before sentencing next week.
Why on earth was a camel herder sent to the UK for a heart op, don't they have heart surgeons in Qatar?
A camel herder, coming from a third world desert environment .. his eyes must have been popping ?
Perhaps he was a millionaire camel herder .. what's with his address?
Al-Gherainiq, formerly of Mayfair … yes of Mayfair , what on earth is that all about?
Haven't you noticed all the Camel Mews off the main thoroughfares of Mayfair?
Haven't you noticed all the Camel Mews off the main thoroughfares of Mayfair?
Speechless, following fury.
What a shame; his heart appears to have recovered.
How does a camel herder get from Qatar to Mayfair? I didn't realise there was so much money in shepherding.
Change at Shepherd's Bush for the Central line.
When Caruthers was in the French Foreign Legion he became sexually frustrated.
His friends, thinking he could find a brothel in the local town, suggested he should take a camel. Caruthers misunderstood this advice and a poor camel was the victim.
"Well, I hope it was a female camel," said one legionnaire.
To which another legionnaire replied:
"Of course it was. There's nothing queer about Caruthers."
If they were racing camels he would be very rich indeed.
"But how much does a camel cost? Faisal says that a camel's price starts from about $55,000 (£40,000) but thoroughbreds can go for a lot more. Back in 2010 an Emirati camel-racing fan spent £6.5m on three camels, external.
The prices of winning camels go even higher – from between $5-10m, but for some can fetch up to $30m. Faisal looked nonchalant when he was speaking about the prices, while I vainly try not to look shocked."
An article from the BBC (spit!)
That would make him the breeder not the herder. And at that level and those prices why isn’t he married?
Maybe he is married to 3 of his camels?
Good point. We could get a couple of sheep in exchange for the lawn mower.
(I think camels might ruin some of MB's special shrubs.)
Pity it didn't give him a fatal heart attack.
Do lots of Camel Herders live in Mayfair………
“Until July 2023 he had never left Qatar,” she said. “He would have had minimal experience engaging with women outside a family context. The only woman he would have had any meaningful contact with is his mother.”
So would he have attempted to rape his mother?
Is it possible that his mother looks like a camel and he got confused?
We are mad, quite mad. I hadn't realised that our nationwide shortage of camel herders was so dire that we were having to import them until I read this.
Qatari camel herder sexually assaulted woman while in UK for heart treatment
‘Immature’ 27-year-old dragged victim into lavatory cubicle at London clinic
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/briefs/2025/06/17/TELEMMGLPICT000429036721_17501711279050_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bq-IWLY18X4-CzgyIcjLEAj_SVWeZ_vEN7c6bHu2jJnT8.jpeg?imwidth=1280
Nasser al-Gherainiq is in custody awaiting sentencing Credit: Central News/Met Police
17 June 2025 3:55pm BST
A Qatari camel herder with no experience of women outside his family carried out a sex attack at a specialist heart clinic, a court heard.
Nasser al-Gherainiq assaulted the woman in a lavatory at a clinic in Marylebone linked to the Royal Brompton Hospital in Chelsea, south-west London. He had come to the UK to receive treatment for a rare heart condition.
The 27-year-old told the victim he needed to go to the lavatory and then pulled her inside the cubicle, Southwark Crown Court heard.
He denied two counts of attempted rape, but was convicted by a jury.
Al-Gherainiq admitted sexual assault and causing a person to engage in sexual activity without their consent.
In a victim impact statement read to the court, the woman said: “I was so scared. I felt frozen with fear. I couldn’t go anywhere. Although the incident lasted a few minutes, it felt like ages to me. I was very shocked to hear it was only five minutes.
‘My life is not the same’
“A few days after the incident I had huge anxiety and fear. I could not leave the house. My life has never been the same. My family still do not know what happened to me. I am so close to my family.
“It has been a lonely and isolated year for me. I am not the outgoing woman I used to be. I am withdrawn and highly anxious and overly cautious, especially when I’m on my own in an unfamiliar environment.”
Jane Bickerstaff KC, defending, told the court: “Once he has served his sentence he will immediately go back to Qatar. There is no reason for him to apply to remain here.”
She explained that, as a member of a conservative Bedouin tribe in Qatar, Al-Gherainiq would not have had much contact with women who were not members of his family.
“Until July 2023 he had never left Qatar,” she said. “He would have had minimal experience engaging with women outside a family context. The only woman he would have had any meaningful contact with is his mother.”
Referring to a pre-sentence report prepared on behalf of the defendant Ms Bickerstaff said: “Limited visits to Doha and a preference for a desert environment curtailed his exposure to urban and modern societal norms.
“This defendant would have had no experience whatsoever of interacting with a woman. We submit that he was equivalent to an immature and inexperienced adolescent. He completely failed to understand her true feelings.”
Al-Gherainiq, formerly of Mayfair, was remanded in custody before sentencing next week.
Annabel Denham
The authoritarian Left wants to police my speech – and I’ve had enough
It’s no wonder the grooming gangs scandal was allowed to endure for so long. We live in a culture of censorship and fear
17 June 2025 3:45pm BST
Annabel Denham
Have you ever been unjustly accused of “racism” in public? I have, and I can tell you it was one of the most sickening, paralysing moments of my career.
During a broadcast interview, and only after listing some of the ways in which immigration has benefited Britain, I expressed concern that the current levels were unsustainable economically and incompatible with effective integration. My fellow panellist, a prominent member of the Green Party, who incidentally once claimed it was possible to enlarge women’s breasts via hypnotherapy, then erupted into eye-bulging outrage. Harbouring such worries was manifestly bigoted and “racist”, he declared. In that stomach-churning exchange I realised there was no smear greater and, importantly, no insult less likely to backfire on those hurling it, than this one.
This is how authoritarians always operate, whether in Soviet Russia, Communist China or the committee rooms and seminars of modern-day Britain. They use taboos and speech restrictions to consolidate power, anathematise dissenting opinions and punish those showing the slightest reluctance to endorse progressive orthodoxy. And all under the banner of promoting unity in diversity and shielding marginalised groups from “offence”.
In the UK, we reached a stage where people didn’t care what happened to the country, provided they could say, from the rubble, “well at least no one accused me of racism”. It’s why Keir Starmer and Angela Rayner, plus a thousand bemused footballers, famously took the knee – and it was right where the guilt grifters wanted us.
Knowing the terror this labelling would elicit, politicians and activists gaslit the British public on an industrial scale. They didn’t need to concede the economic costs of immigration were in danger of outweighing the advantages; they could just declare the country was built on hardworking asylum seekers, and denounce those who challenged this assertion as xenophobes. They didn’t need to listen to warnings that discrete communities were living parallel lives, with some groups almost entirely sequestered from wider society; the received wisdom was that importing large numbers of people, whose values might be unreconcilable with our own, was unquestionably positive.
What particularly aroused woke anger was when minorities refused to stay in Victim Street. Thus when Sir Trevor Phillips, the former head of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, voiced concerns about integration and community cohesion he was suspended from the Labour Party. Tony Sewell’s Race and Ethnic Disparities Commission was denounced for Uncle Tomism when it suggested that perhaps the UK wasn’t Full Fascist.
And it wasn’t enough to not be racist, we had to be “anti-racist”: a theory advanced by ludicrous pseudo-scholars such as Kehinde Andrews or Ibram X Kendi, for whom “the claim of ‘not racist’ neutrality” is apparently a “mask for racism’”. New terms entered our lexicon, such as “the global South”, which helped feed the narrative of an oppressive West, prosperous only through exploiting the poor.
Parliament’s useful idiots brought in the legislation – the 2010 Equality Act and 2015 Modern Slavery Act – that would facilitate and underpin the migration dogma. HR teams – now 450,000 strong in this country – played their part, squandering corporate time with mandatory unconscious bias training and telling colleagues that rolling their eyes could constitute a racial microaggression.
But after years of this claptrap, we can begin to see the tide is on the turn. First, the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR), hitherto a reliable ally of the open borders brigade, released modelling showing the true cost of a “low-wage migrant” to the British taxpayer. Then, Nigel Farage’s Reform crossed the tipping point – 30 per cent – at which our electoral system starts to work in its favour. And this week, the Casey review put into black and white what we already knew: that thousands of vulnerable white girls were systematically abused by predominantly Pakistani men whilst our authorities turned a blind eye.
Now, finally, we can talk freely about Pakistan’s sexist culture and its incompatibility with notions of civilised behaviour. We can openly discuss reports of rape and assault perpetrated by those allegedly seeking asylum here. We can admit we are not realising a 21st-century version of Theodore Roosevelt’s “melting pot”. We can unashamedly demand a visa system which welcomes only those who subscribe to our values and contribute to our society.
The fear of being labelled racist is toxic. It pushes discourse underground, driving people towards the very divisions which “anti-racism” claims to oppose. It hands politicians carte-blanche to pursue ruinous policies and duck difficult decisions. And it waters down the term, when we ought to preserve its meaning so that demonstrable injustice isn’t dismissed as noise.
And remember, it’s not just immigration. It’s also “transphobia” and climate change “denialism”. We have to stop being so terrified. To believe we need market solutions to rising temperatures is not tantamount to denying the science. To believe in biological sex is not to discriminate against trans people. Enough is enough.
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Graham Cushway
15 hrs ago
There's the rub. Without Reform and GB News we still wouldn't be allowed to talk about these matters. If the Uniparty and Establishment are allowed to just carry on absolutely nothing will ever change. We need a complete revolution to do anything even slightly benign on any topic at all from this point.
Right now not one single thing works, and not one single thing is intended to help or support Britain and British people. On the contrary, Government is acting directly against our interests across every single department and on every part of policy. We need total change.
David Forcey
10 hrs ago
Reply to Stevie Gee – view message
You’ve just made a chilling comment..but the BBC would never allow…that dreadful organisation is the root of a lot of problems in this country.
Michael Staples
9 hrs ago
Reply to Graham Cushway
And OFCOM are doing their best to persecute GB News.
The Silencing of the Lambs (OKA Sheep)!
https://off-guardian.org/2025/06/14/impervious-to-suffering/
"And this is the thing I figured out—people don’t know yet what the real punishment is going to be for wrongdoing, and for straying away from the desires of the agenda. They have never experienced real suffering at the hands of their captives, so they don’t know what is in store for them. None of them have lived in North Korea, or Soviet Russia, or Nazi Germany, or Mao’s China. None of them know what it means to live a life in any of these environments where you don’t have to be a criminal to be seriously persecuted and physically punished for just being."
Worth a few minutes of your time….
Live blogging sets a new low bar..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX_GXOxKl_0
Whoops. It was there when I up-ticked it.
"Video unavailable. This video is private" apparently!
I pressed the arrow at the bottom right and it opened up in a new tab; to a live ladies cricket match at the Oval.
Were you getting the view from the Gasworks End?
Sometimes. It’s the Surrey v Lancashire (Women’s Vitality Blast).
Sounds very erotic
They wear trousers these days and not skirts, but you do see the odd slip.
Good morning, all. Another fine start to the day.
Much discussion, and rightly so, on the subject of abortion and how it's the woman's choice etc.
My experience is somewhat different. My dear late wife was taking strong drugs for most of her life and getting pregnant was not an easy task. It involved hospital bed-rest, hydrotherapy etc. for many weeks to clear her body of the drugs, some of which were known to have serious effects on a foetus, and to get her strong enough to open a window of opportunity for getting pregnant. That window was 3 months: after a few failures, by Christmas 1982 we were literally two fertility periods away from never having a child. My wife's specialist, a wonderful man, explained why he could not continue with the treatment if it failed this time.
Fortunately, my wife became pregnant that Christmas and carried our son to term. Post the birth of our son my wife's specialist explained to us that my wife must never get pregnant again; one reason, of course, being the drugs and secondly, that another pregnancy carried to term would very likely have a major impact on her physical health. The upshot of his advice was that should pregnancy occur my wife, for her own good health and life, would have to have an immediate termination. For a couple who had always dreamt of having a family with children this was a shock to us but we trusted her doctor and we agreed to his advice. And so, we settled down to bringing up our son and fortunately the problem of having a termination never arose.
For me, this abortion news has reared its head at a poignant time, it is five years to the day that I rushed my wife to A&E and saw her wheeled away alone, it was CV-19 time and I wasn't allowed to be with her. She died two days later.
Oh Korky. How awful. Thinking of you on this very sad day. 🌻
Thanks, Sue.
A beautiful story with much good to recall.
A very sad ending on both counts.
I hope your son remains fit and healthy.
Thanks, sos. He’s fit, well and has a wonderful family and career.
I remember your terrible news , Korky.
Hugs to you, sincerely , words are not enough.
Thanks, Belle.
Very sad to read this, Korky. Very sad. Wishing you and yours all the very best x
Thanks, KJ.
Very sad to read this, Korky. Very sad. Wishing you and yours all the very best x
That's awful Korky, so very sad. I lost mine during (but not from) covid and not able to be with her
Awful times F_A for you, me and many others. I did get to see my wife the next day but she was very ill and later that day I was told she wouldn’t survive the weekend. Family and I said our farewells later that day.
Oh, shit, Korky.
Words fail me. I'm so sorry.
Thank you, OB.
Compared with your appalling saga, the Allans got off comparatively lightly. But Sonny Boy Snr and I have a permanent picture in our minds of MB being taken off in the ambulance without either of us. And we were not allowed to follow the ambulance to the hospital.
MB looked so small and shrunken. We will never forget that.
Even when Sonny Boy Jnr and I visited him in Basildon hospital, we were kept in the entrance hall and could only hand over clean clothes etc… to a nurse who came down from the ward.
I had a similar experience of MOH being loaded into an ambulance to be taken to hospital. No visits allowed due to covid. Three weeks later MOH went to sleep and never woke up.
407726+ up ticks,
Grant unto those the blame that proven facts say deserve the blame, in this case the pakistani paedophiles.
https://x.com/JamesMelville/status/1935221156329533504
Oh! I see! You're deflecting! Yes, nicely done dear.
Now sod off. It's not about men, it's pakistani muslims raping children. Get it? Yes, there are problems elsewhere but those were exposed and dealt with by the authorities. People like you excused, hid, disguised and protected the pakistani muslim rape of children because you wanted to.
I appreciate you don't want to see the problem, but it's in the mirror, dear. The muslim savages are vile, that's a given. It's why we didn't want them in this country but you and yours forced them on us. The real enemy, the real threat to this country is you: rich Lefties, comfortable in your roles desperately hiding the problem for your own gain. Doing anything you can to deflect, avoid, hide, disguise the truth: massive uncontrolled unwanted invasion of this country by foreigners has destroyed it. Without you, the damned dindus wouldn't be here to rape children. We wouldn't be reading about drunk pakis killing one another. There would be no blacks stabbing one another (and white girls) over drugs. There'd be no blackwashing of history, no denigration of Shakespeare and flippin' Ann Boleyn would not have been abusively race swapped to some black woman when there were none in the country.
The Left keep trying to twist the truth to suit yourselves and avoid the guilt you rightly deserve. You're serpents like that but the pakistani muslim – and that's what they are, it's not a grooming gang, it's paki muslims – simply should not be here at all. You force the vermin on us.
In Muslim majority countries it is seemingly the way to keep men and women segregated. Leading to problems such as child abuse (rape). A tradition exported. Would have thought those experts in the FO would have known that.
I think much stems from the oldest man in the village identifying the different values men and women bring to the tribe.
Thus we get the Christian Eve, the berry/fruit picker bringing a poisoned apple (knowledge). The Greeks, interestingly, changed this to a man – Prometheus. In Norse mythology of course, Odin didn't die, but he lost an eye. Knowledge has a price.
All this aimed at keeping people subservient to religion, especially those promoting and getting rich off it. muslim just took it too far.
Aka control. Interesting response, wibbling – thank you.
Aka control. Interesting response, wibbling – thank you.
Blimey! Where did she come from? https://i8.cmail19.com/ei/j/4C/107/552/csimport/Screenshot2025-06-17at17.43.53.174427.png
‘Take me to your fat jabs.’
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I think I've been lucky up till now, because I don't know who this poor excuse of a woman is, and frankly I don't want too.
The knowledge will not enhance your life.
She reminds me of this
https://pacoceanproject.weebly.com/uploads/2/4/8/8/24884223/317408167.png
VG! 10/10 + 2 for neatness!
Things that Lefties fail to grasp..
Iran subscribes to the Twelver Shi'ism Islam.. and the final prophet emerges once the last drop of blood of Israel falls. So the end of Israel brings the final prophet.
Much like all religious nonsense, that 'final prophet' needn't be their messiah. It could be a nuclear weapon.
The 'end of Israel' could also refer to Israel getting so fed up it decides to end the muslim threat forever, meaning no more Israelis are killed.
‘Morning pet! 😘
Please let’s not forget this..
https://www.facebook.com/groups/425933676997554/posts/jess-phillips-smirks-whilst-on-her-phone-covering-her-grins-all-while-the-abhorr/742878788636373/
https://x.com/gavinantonyrice/status/1934974858313756828
A completely foul woman.
Remember how quick she was to play the 'Poor me I'm a victim' with crocodile tears when she was criticised.
The true depth of her sordid nastiness is now coming to the surface.
She’s certainly got the face she deserves. All that nastiness writ large on her twisted features.
"There's no art to find the mind's construction in the face,"
said the naïf King Duncan who built an absolute trust in the first Thane of Cawder and then his failure to see the evil in Macbeth led to his being murdered in his bed.
One of my favourite quotations from George Orwell: "At 50 everyone has the face they deserve."
Dorian Grey and Ozymandias spring to mind.
Curses. No readundery.
I believe she's anorexic or similar, Sue. A mental illness, apparently.
Mental, eh? That implies she has a brain…
There you go, Sue:-) At minimum a moral compass.
"At 50, a man has the face he deserves"
Possibly George Orwell, but similar observations have been made by others.
Elon Musk may have something more to say about her.
I was trying to find that earlier.
Thank you.
😁
Those people are paid nearly £100,000 per annum to WORK as MPs. Not to sit smirking on their mobiles during debates (when they can be bothered to turn up). Why aren't there concerted attempts by Reform to encourage constituents to recall their MPs – there must be enough of the electorate who are disgusted by the people elected to represent them to meet the 10% needed to trigger a recall.
I took on the fitness test England rugby players fear the most
Telegraph Sport reporter endures the brutal Wattbike challenge and just about lives to tell the tale
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2025/06/18/i-took-on-the-fitness-test-england-rugby-players-fear-the-m/
"If all the year were playing holidays,
To sport would be as tedious as to work"
[Shakespeare Henry IV Part 1]
Professional sport is an oxymoron.
Why? It is indicative of a society having sufficient leisure time to pursue indulgence rather than existence. Having people who 'do sport' for a job is a society on the up.
You could say the same about professional Chess or Go masters. I'd argue that Kasparov is doing the best thing his mind can do. Having that man filling in forms for ACME corp would be a waste.
Indeed, some 'sportsmen' become workoholics.
I enjoy sport as a escape from things I am obliged to do. If I had to do it to make my living it would be an obligation rater than an escape.
A branch of show business, and none the worse for that.
Another industry that epitomises how great our society is.
Apparently theatre/sporting ticket sales decline is one of the best indicators of economic decline. That and eating out. People cut the luxuries of society.
Looking at cinema and theatre sales… we're royally stuffed!
An alternative explanation is that plays and films are now so distorted by wokeism that nobody wants to watch them any more.
I cannot understand the mentality of those young girls for even allowing a smelly beardy dark stranger near them .
How precocious were these youngsters to have allowed their private regions to be fiddled with by those total strangers .
Were they grabbed and imprisoned , how has this happened , and surely the risk of disease , infection and examples of sudden wealth of presents cannot surely have escaped the notice of their carers?
The carers, social workers, Labour councils and Police all knew what was going on. Large numbers of them should be in prison.
The young girls had nobody to turn to. People in authority said they had made a conscious choice.
Workers in care homes were not allowed to stop the girls going out; at all times and with whoever they "chose".
It was a sackable offence as the carer was interfering with the girl's human rights.
Fear.
I've seen footage of at least one parent, he seemed to be an addict, regretting how he hadn't been able to control his daughter. A number of broken people in our society, especially in what's referred to as 'working class societies', forgotten about by mainstream.
If my colleagues daughter is anything to go by, she actively does the opposite of what she is warned against, seemingly to pee him off (it works, BTW). He gets upset because he loves her, making her even keener to jerk his chain some more. Don't know the motivation.
I suspect something similar happened to my ex-husband's niece. Her mother had died when she was very young, her father couldn't cope. She was in and out of care homes at times. She became a heroin addict and in and out of jail and rehab. She eventually died ten years ago aged 47.
I understand that boys in their class or younger males are sometimes used as 'bait'…the real customers show up later.
Drugs, alcohol, money.
And threats and violence.
And attention…
They are going for the aged and trying their best to indoctrinate school children into their vile and evil way of thinking, but now they have reached the lowest level.possible the unborn.
I wonder how many of these unwanted babies would be female. Just wondering.
When my now retired sister-in–law was still practising as a midwife, they were not allowed to disclose the baby's sex; for that very reason.
Its called grooming, one step at a time.
Which makes it al the more pernicious.
One of the steps is to persuade the girls that their parents don’t care about them.
They are utterly utterly evil. This isn’t chance. It’s planned, and continuous behaviour.
Driest spring since 1956!
I was astonished to read that this year has been the driest Spring in England since 1956. Woah, that 1956? I was there …. it was the year we caught the Australians on a number of "sticky wickets" in a wet summer, with Jim Laker taking 19 wickets in the match at Old Trafford …
You cannot believe anything they tell you. Its all part of trying to frighten that the world will end.Just how wet was winter.
Er, you could have a dry spring and a wet summer…
I was born in autumn 1955 so my awareness of spring 1956 was still confined to whaaa! I'm wet, whaaa! I'm hungry. I was baptised on 15 January 1956 but that too would be whaaa! I'm wet.
Sir Keir Starmer's embarrassing gaffe at G7 summit: Prime Minister shakes hand of interpreter… rather than South Korea's president.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14822715/Sir-Keir-Starmers-embarrassing-gaffe-G7-summit.html
Eye roll.
Lol is it cos he’s racist???
No, it's because he's an idiot.
He was day-dreaming about being in Rochdale this coming Sunday.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d755cb0fb7049b0283263041c85e1d124c4d5617de71d1c8cf7f354186464cd2.png
Not only are littler girls still in danger from Paki rapists but little boys are too.
Bridgnorth’s pride event flags have been taken down and vandalised. Oh dear, what a shame.
407726+up ticks,
Bare this in mind during the dark hours,
I visited Waterloo’s perfectly preserved battlefield – the reason Napoleon lost is obvious
Britain to rely on France to avoid blackouts this winter
It's one of the features of this forum that debate quickly moves on, the previous day's column is left behind and closed down by the mods after 24 hours. This prevents members pointlessly slugging it out for days. So it is with some reluctance that I am posting extracts from yesterday evening when the mood turn ugly for a while. I feel it's almost tale-telling but the response I received today would probably have gone unnoticed otherwise. [NB The mods got involved and deleted one message – not mine, BTW.]
Any misgivings anyone might have about Israel's actions are surely outweighed by the threat posed by the Iranian despots, a constant source of trouble in that region.
I agree with William.
Stig and Jeremy are well to the left of me – indeed I shall never morph into Jeremy!
However, it is a good idea for us to have a range of opinions on this forum with which we can agree or disagree.
Good morning Rastus.
It is indeed a good idea for us to have a range of opinions on this forum. However there is a difference between an opinion sincerely held and a stand that is obviously moral bankruptcy masquerading as righteousness.
"… a stand that is obviously moral bankruptcy masquerading as righteousness."
Excellent summary. I will appropriate that and quote it at relevant opportunities.
Please feel free Angus.
I used to work with an Iranian who was Persian and told me I must understand that Iran is an occupied country. Amin was proud of the fact that a cousin of his had married a Jewish girl. For him it proved his family credentials as belonging with the good guys.
My Persian friend has a lot to say on the subject of Iran and the Ayatollahs…
Thankyou for posting this William. As you know I deleted one remark which it was pointed out was a personal attack so against our policy. This response from Jeremy came much later so few people will have seen it.
The Israelis have constantly had to fight for their survival, whereas the Mullahs of Iran have sheltered behind their proxy groups – Hamas, Hizbollah, and Houtis, so the fact that Israel is now taking the battle to them instead of allowing their small country to be wiped out is a positive move, the outcome of which we will have to see.
There is no moral equivalence.
This will be the reward if the final outcome of this inquiry does not FULLY & honestly satisfy the main herd.
Because without radical change things will not change from what they currently are, as depicted.
https://x.com/keirwrong/status/1935081746007241137
Morning all, another hot day. Predicted to be 79f here by 3pm. I will be retreating to my bedroom, it's the coolest place in the house, fan and hepa filter on. This time better prepared with computer and snacks!
With regards to today letter. Here is a reply from someone who knows better than all of us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikxtwNvLIs8&t=20s
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4d190afed26da168a2db97e0916330abce5ada62c20a4048f34337d9014cb8a5.jpg
Would only add Mark Steyn vilified and sacked by GBN, left and had four heart attacks quick succession. Seems to have recovered well, still in contact with at least one of the girls. His blog is online under his own name. I've tried to post the link before but somehow gets deleted. Search his name, he covers quite a few issues. Also see his 'hockey stick' trial vs Michael Mann.
I would say Sammy is very perceptive.
Delicate conversation , so please don't be offended .
Those of us who are a certain age , can any of you remember disruptive children in your class when you were at school, children with the modern label what ever that is , no not talking dyslexia, but the behavioural problems teachers and parents are experiencing in classrooms, children with special needs etc these days .
When I was a pupil in my primary school, there were a couple of children who wore calipers(polio) and several deaf children , that's it ..
Perhaps I was so busy learning that maybe I didn't notice disruptive children ?
Teacher were strict , but I am wondering whether IQ's have fallen to an all time low amongst British children , whereas Chinese children seem to excel at everything, and our generation were almost the golden ones when given educational advantages?
In my experience disruptive pupils came from families where there was a lack of discipline . Disciple was installed at school by strict teachers and the cane – step out of line and it was painful
Were you one of the disruptive boys, Alec…or just the angel you now are…?
Definitely the latter Kate 😇 x
Totally believe you Alec x
In my small village CofE primary school (average 60 pupils) there was one boy (the brother of my close friend) who was "backward"….. he went on to a 'special school'. An older boy who was not very bright went on to become a fireman and was seriously injured doing his job and became well known for that. A family I was friendly with (went to their birthday parties) had three children – the eldest, Susan, was deaf and the two boys not too bright, but the teachers gave them extra help.
I don't remember any of these children being disruptive. There was a boy who smelled pretty awful but as a person he was a nice kid and well-liked.
There were just three classes and three teachers, though the middle class was small and had a turnover of teachers, the two I remember best, Mrs Foster and Mrs Ralph were there throughout my schooldays and beyond. I went back to visit them several times – the last time after my A levels. It was happy little school, now long-closed of course.
I don't think there's been a general fall in IQ, more that failure is now seen as a positive, as if not being able to do something – such as spell – isn't something to be ashamed of (and thus improved) any more.
Point out the cants, wonts, its, hes ims, the poor grammar and you get attacked because people can no longer feel shame. They (and others) don't care that they're wrong.
Much of this comes down to welfare. The feckless don't care as someone else is paying. The workers do care, but are so exhausted from paying the taxes stolen from them by the state to pay for the feckless and just surviving that they often don't either. I know a household who when he comes home from his shift at the bindery she goes off to nightshift at the hospital. They communicate through a shared diary of events.
It's rare for a family to all eat together. heck, we didn't as an 8 year old Junior can't sit up until midnight for his Mum to get home off the 10:15 train home, so we would eat apart. Often by the time the Warqueen would get home she wouldn't want to eat anyway.
We tried conference call dinners where we'd sit her at the head of the table on a laptop and we'd eat 'together' but she'd have endless interruptions.
Many families don’t own a dining table.
When I was in the first year at Junior School in Bath (Moorfields) my father was mentally ill and placed in Menddip Hospital near Wells in Somerset. I along with my second sister and youngest brother were taken to Muller’s Home in Uphill near Weston super Mare where we attended the village junior school.
My eldest brother and sister were cared for by relatives as was my mother.
At Uphill I was feared by the boys and excelled in my studies but failed miserably at Country Dancing (girl’s clammy hands). There was a small highly disruptive boy in the class who was also the son of the headmaster. The boy’s antics were really stupid but he got something from the laughter generated which of course alerted the lady teacher to his behaviour.
On one famous occasion the boy was standing in the back of the class with his thumbs in ears and flapping his hands, his pink tongue poking out and waggling in the way that only fools can achieve. At the very moment his father, the Headmaster, appeared and caught him in the act. The Headmaster was a lovely man and promised to deal with his son after school with a stern warning about disruptive behaviour.
Throughout the rest of my schooling in Bath our teachers were intolerant of poor behaviour. The Welsh teachers were particularly severe, often throwing board rubbers and lengths of chalk at offenders with surprising accuracy.
Our maths teacher at my all girls' grammar school was famous for that…..she didn't manage to teach me much maths.
I think I posted this before, N…my school the Deputy Head was a woman who would nag the girls endlessly. Head was a man who would ask the boy destined for punishment to remove his footwear, then thrash said boy with it. Recently my grandchildren had a male head teacher, who didn't punish but nevertheless a disciplinarian. Replaced by a female head teacher, not quite the same. Not saying this is good or bad, male or female – just different characters – how can children learn in a free for all environment, especially if home life similar. I learned more maths working in an Accounts Office 😀
I think I did too – arithmetic anyway. I don’t think our teachers were disciplinarians exactly, but they did let you know when you’d transgressed. The games mistress was a bit of a horror though. She nearly drowned me at the swimming baths.
I can remember teachers with such pin point accuracy they could 'ping' an ear lobe with a piece of chalk.
We had a teacher who threw the old wooden backed blackboard rubbers.
He aimed it so that it landed and produced a cloud of chalk dust over the offending pupil.
We had them as well!
When I was in the first year at Junior School in Bath (Moorfields) my father was mentally ill and placed in Menddip Hospital near Wells in Somerset. I along with my second sister and youngest brother were taken to Muller’s Home in Uphill near Weston super Mare where we attended the village junior school.
My eldest brother and sister were cared for by relatives as was my mother.
At Uphill I was feared by the boys and excelled in my studies but failed miserably at Country Dancing (girl’s clammy hands). There was a small highly disruptive boy in the class who was also the son of the headmaster. The boy’s antics were really stupid but he got something from the laughter generated which of course alerted the lady teacher to his behaviour.
On one famous occasion the boy was standing in the back of the class with his thumbs in ears and flapping his hands, his pink tongue poking out and waggling in the way that only fools can achieve. At the very moment his father, the Headmaster, appeared and caught him in the act. The Headmaster was a lovely man and promised to deal with his son after school with a stern warning about disruptive behaviour.
Throughout the rest of my schooling in Bath our teachers were intolerant of poor behaviour. The Welsh teachers were particularly severe, often throwing board rubbers and lengths of chalk at offenders with surprising accuracy.
I grew up on a council estate where the people were mostly very decent working class folk but there were a few families who were regarded as lower and possibly criminal class. A young son of one of those families exhibited very disruptive behaviour. My parents ran the fish and chip shop on the estate. It was council property but they owned the business, so we were considered "posh". The lad would come into the shop and behave badly but my mother was good at handling such people and he became known to my parents by name. I mentioned him once to one of my teachers and she said yes, he likes to throw things at me through the classroom windows. He seemed destined in adulthood for a life of petty crime.
Same here. Later, single mothers came along, and also the council decided to mix local occupancy with that of a wider area. Downhill all the way. Import a different world, become that world.
In years gone by disruptive and/or "slow" children were sent to "special schools". Somewhere I read that the rules changed and such children today are mostly kept in their local schools. And of course, discipline is missing from schools these days, as it often is in the home as well.
As to IQ, I think it's a "use it or lose it" issue. If the schools don't push the pupils in any way, they will never reach their potential. Especially if the parents offer no encouragement to do well.
An aside. Around 1967-8, I was working with a man whose wife had just produced. Baby was kept in the hospital as it could not keep anything down. After a lot of tests, it turns out the problem was Celiac disease. The consultant told the father that it was the first case the hospital had ever seen, but he had read about it. Nowadays, it seems to be everywhere. Too many highly processed foods, I suppose.
Yes, there was a child like that in my primary school. Undiagnosed ADHD.
Nope. Don’t recall any in any of my classes. Some of the boys in O level Latin lessons weren’t very cooperative, but they just didn’t like the subject.
Single winner of £208 EuroMillions lottery jackpot yesterday- Not me!
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Off topic, but a pleasant interlude about paths.
https://bsky.app/profile/adamcsharp.bsky.social/post/3lquk2qypa22x?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
I watched an interesting video about paths. It said 'you need seats'. If people know they can stop and rest easily, they'll walk more.
No seats puts people off walking.
Certainly the older and less fit, so it helps people from becoming less fit, older’s a different issue!
Psychology.
The road from Colchester town centre to the Dower House is very straightforward and rather long. It has houses and roads off it, so there are visual distractions.
But, if I take a detour and use a passageway running between backs of gardens, but parallel to the road, for some reason, the walk doesn't seem as daunting, although I'm actually adding several hundred yards to the route.
Totally illogical.
Town centre, Maggie?
It certainly makes life more pleasant for me if there are seats. The last weekend has really effed up my joints.
Battle of Waterloo 18th June 1815
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Is the bloke on the left shouting 'Oi! Wellington! You're the wrong side mate! This is the French side!"
More likely he's asking how to get to Kings Cross.
Ho ho
It's an English artillery soldier
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"Come on lads! Let's give the Frenchies the boot!"
Wellington left some of his closest friends on the battlefield that day. When it was over, he laid on the ground and wept. There was no question of losing but it was won at high cost. Copenhagen, Wellington's horse, was retired to the family estate and cared for personally by the duchess.
Isn't Copenhagen's skeleton preserved somewhere?
He was buried on the Stratfield Saye estate and has a marble headstone. Wellington refused to allow the skeleton to be put on display.
https://www.thewarhorsememorial.org/100-hero-horses/25-copenhagen-the-noble
It’s Napoleon’s, in the National Army museum (i think)
I thought he shut himself in his tent to weep and wouldn’t see anybody.
The Duke has just told Sam to "pick up tha musket!"
As the Iron Duke himself remarked 'It was a damn close run thing!'…..
Blücher made all the difference.
Absolutely! Although he was a bit late…..
Just nipped back from bagging a sunbed in Warnemünde.
Hahaha! Very good, I liked that!
Better late than never.
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He's a moral vacuum. A typical civil servant without wit, empathy or competence.
My grandfather was a civil servant. He wanted me to be one, said the perks worth it. I went to work in industry instead. Never regretted my decision.
Re your later post about the desirability of keeping Starmer in good health; he appointed the only person as deputy PM who could make him look like the better option. A form of life insurance, I suppose.
Is anyone else having trouble making comments on the Spectator?
I do, time to time, OK this morning. Do you remember computer problems 'have you tried turning it off and back on again'…similar to what I found seems to solve the Speccie prob – try logging out and logging back in again. I think there were a few of us experienced it.
Thanks KJ200
Yes, there was a problem on Sunday. I emailed them and received a reply yesterday. By which time the problem had gone away (well, for my laptop, anyway). Here is the reply.
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I had a message about a new app which wanted more access to my info than i was prepared to give it. I am prepared to cancel my subscription. I’m not a prolific poster, but want to be able to, occasionally.
Yes.
I logged out and logged back in as KJ200 suggested and it seemed to do the trick.
Another off topic.
https://off-guardian.org/2025/06/14/chronocide-how-technocracy-is-erasing-the-past-present-and-future/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Interesting and perceptive piece.
Interesting and perceptive piece.
Hmmm. Archival and storage isn't the issue. The Left are deliberately trying to re-write historical fact to suit their own insane vision of it. For them 1984 is a manual, not a warning.
Remember that technology also reminds us of the truth – when Cleopatra was blackwashed historical evidence proved she was Greek, and thus white. We know what Anne Boelyn looks like because we have portraits of her (a form of archival storage). Same for Shakespeare, despite what the Left want to pretend.
Technology is a tool, not a system. Tools have to be used by someone to achieve something. Same as some people store every version of a film ( https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/ ) so others abuse those tools for their own insane, psychotic, evil means: https://medium.com/the-sundial-acmrs/decolonizing-shakespeare-toward-an-antiracist-culturally-sustaining-praxis-904cb9ff8a96 and https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2023/03/white-people-in-shakespeare-book-plays-race/673341/
Lefties are evil. 75 years ago nutter Lefties used tanks and bombs to impose their will over it. Later they invented the EU to continue that work. Over time that group has infiltrated other organisations to perpetuate their fascist ideology (it's why they were so angry over Brexit and why over 500 MPs fought, endlessly to overturn it – especially Starmer, remember).
Technology has always been weaponised by the Left wing mind. They can't help themselves. Why do you think the egregious on line harm bill has passed? It's to ensure they, the self righteous, monomanic nutters control the network and ensure you can only hear what they want you to.
"off guardian" seems like Conspiracies Are Us judging from its web presence.
I don’t normally see the site, I was directed to it from another article.
Well, having avoided war in the middle east, I am staying a few days in Bali as planned. To keep the stress levels high, a volcano has errupted nearby. Oh shucks, carry on regardless. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d0382ade51b8cff121a8457aaf1ff6ae68db7730ae04bb34b00b78c91c192593.jpg Ordered a fish soup, no mistaking that I got what was ordered…
Next up starry gazey pie?
Next up starry gazey pie?
Poor thing is gasping for breath!
Too much pepper
I should think so seeing as its head is detached from its body.
It had stopped swimming by the time it was served.
Thank you for giving us a heads up.
The eyes have is, so tails you win.
The eyes have is, so tails you win.
Eyes, tongues and cheeks are the best bits.
So Mrs Pea tells me, good for the hormones. It was more the active volcano coldera that we were sitting on that concerned me. White water rafting today with just about more excitement than I could bear, but it did say that it was for under 65 yolds. The kids liked it.
I thought so.
I suspect it will resonate with many Nottlers.
I am interested NOTTLer reactions to this news item – particularly those living in towns.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/17/mother-forced-to-remove-double-decker-bus-from-driveway/?recomm_id=6799edc7-0a4d-4190-b15d-4d3b23acdd26
Mother forced to remove double-decker bus from driveway
Wendy Salmon was told to remove the vehicle by June 20 after neighbours said it was ‘ruining the ambience’ of the cul-de-sac
Telegraph Reporters17 June 2025 9:58pm BST
A woman who parked a double-decker bus on her drive to restore it and turn it into a cafe is being forced to move it after her neighbours complained.
Wendy Salmon, 55, put the vehicle outside her home in Camberley, Surrey, temporarily to renovate it.
But the mother-of-two has received a community protection notice (CPN) and been told to remove it by June 20 after neighbours said it was “ruining the ambience” of the cul-de-sac.
She has accused neighbours of “rallying” the others on the street against her by complaining it was an eyesore.
Ms Salmon, who runs a pub, bought the double-decker bus for £6,000 from a friend’s brother in March 2023 and parked it on her private driveway to convert into a cafe to host parties and events.
She claimed neighbours started to complain almost immediately and that she was visited by a member of Surrey Heath Borough Council’s Corporate Enforcement Department after the bus was reported as abandoned.
The council initially confirmed via email that there were no planning restrictions and no further action would be taken. However, it contacted her two weeks later to say a further complaint had been received.
“I received a community protection notice from the council,” said Ms Salmon. “It said that if I can’t comply with the order I could get a fixed penalty notice, be prosecuted, or the bus could be destroyed or disposed of.
“The warning had an impossible timescale, making it extremely challenging to get the bus ready for an MOT to make it legal to drive. A few months after this, the community protection notice arrived. I had no choice but to appeal.”
Ms Salmon appeared in court but dropped the appeal and agreed to remove the bus from her drive.
She said: “The wording of the CPN was that it was ‘upsetting the ambience of the local area’. Now no one speaks to me. All my neighbours completely ignore me. I’m being treated like a criminal even though I’ve never committed a crime in my life.
“The whole thing is just ridiculous… There is no way it is impacting or bothering them. It is just snobbery, pure and simple.
“I don’t know what the future holds, but I do not like my previously loved home, I don’t want to leave the house as I feel bullied, neighbours no longer speak to me or my partner. I have had over a year of sleepless nights, stress and anxiety. My dream of restoring the bus is no longer something that I want to do.”
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As you know it live in a cul de sac too. If it wasn't blocking anyone's light i wouldn't care. It would over power the bungalows but as we can see she lives in a two story.
I think the neighbours are being a bit snobbish.
"Room for one more on top. Hold tight, please. Ding! Ding!"
Move farther down the bus.
Rather poncily if it had been a red bus DD I'd have gone for it, but the white blocky blobs? Nah, not really.
Although my inherent libertarianism applies. She could have covered it in creepers or otherwise disguised the outline for the NIMBYs but it's her property.
I expected it to be a red bus.
Is it really very much worse than those huge campervans some people park in front of their houses?
Oi!
Poloi
Living where I do, in a US state with a preference for individual property rights, such a thing might well happen. Which is why HOA"s are common, to stop any unwanted behaviour, though the rules are not that strict. Parking a bus long term would be a problem as it would probably fall into the "no storage of unroadworthy vehicles" clause. You can have them, but they must be garaged. Short term, with obvious progress, would not be a big deal. Similarly, house construction is expected to be completed within a year, and construction debris cleaned up. But as we all have large (6-7 acre) plots, tucking a vehicle away from view is not that hard.
shoulda woulda coulda..
Paint the thing Red.. and add the slogan..
"We send the EU £350 million a week, let's fund our NHS instead".
Then wait for six.. nah ten.. fckit twenty Telebubby Brexity police to arrive.
It wouldn’t worry me. My only comment is about her paying £6000 for a 24 year old bus. Far too much.
My daughter’s estate has covenants against parking things like this on drives. For good reason. Also, she can’t “turn it into a cafe”. That needs all sorts of permissions. Again, for good reason.
There’s ways of having a bus on your drive, and other ways of having tons of junk on your drive.
I’m with the neighbours (and i would love to own a bus).
I suggest she gets in touch with Nikeliar Sturgeons ex-mother in law. She’ll be able to give her tips on how to make it invisible!
Sounds like a blunderbus
I hate neighbours who complain because someone's property doesn't look like all the other properties. The bar for complaints should be set much, much higher imo.
Russia warns Trump against bombing Iran and Ayatollah vows to 'never surrender' after White House gave them 48 hours to avoid US onslaught.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14814127/Iran-Israel-air-strikes-IDF-missiles-Tehran.html
28K comments. Most i have ever seen.
Comments straight down the middle as per usual..
Commie Marxists.. scweam abuse about Taco Trump.. you said it was the easiest deal in history.. the red bus. etc..
Normies.. reckon the Ayatollah has nothing left in the tank to threaten anyone, and should finish the job off. Along with Gaza.
Comments straight down the middle as per usual..
Commie Marxists.. scweam abuse about Taco Trump.. you said it was the easiest deal in history.. the red bus. etc..
Normies.. reckon the Ayatollah has nothing left in the tank to threaten anyone, and should finish the job off. Along with Gaza.
PMQs
Shaitan 👿
24m
Jeez, can you imagine what it would be like if anything were to happen to Starmer and this creature became Prime Minister?
Blasphemous Duck
Shaitan 👿
4m
Imagine that at a G7 summit, it would be the first use of "Am i bovvered?" in an international meeting.
Enjoy.
https://youtu.be/sdb4rNFRzU0?si=I6xs03h0jo752uLr
Always loved South Park characters. My favourites are the very early Santa vs. Jesus Christmas episode and of course, the "Privacy" episode, which hit those two grifters like a torpedo below the water line. Definitely changed some attitudes here in the US.
Lamborghini-driving 'TikTok lawyer' who represented brothers over Manchester Airport brawl with police denies money laundering 'involving millions in cash'.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14823767/lamborghini-TikTok-lawyer-denies-money-laundering.html
Fancy that…
Deeply shocked.
Not as shocked as i am!!!
😂😂
Good heavens! Could he possibly be a paki muslim?
Old saying, Sue…'import the 3rd world, become the 3rd world'….
I'll give Musk the benefit of the doubt on this one.. because he liberated Twitter from the commie Marxist ponces.
And Sam Altman is a nasty piece of work. What? Just because he graped his sister over a ten year period.
The real reason Elon Musk had a hissy fit over Trump ditching his ally Jared Isaacman for head of NASA.. was the access to NASAs data in the race against Sam Altman for Ai dominance.
I'll give Musk the benefit of the doubt on this one.. because he liberated Twitter from the commie Marxist ponces.
And Sam Altman is a nasty piece of work. What? Just because he graped his sister over a ten year period.
The real reason Elon Musk had a hissy fit over Trump ditching his ally Jared Isaacman for head of NASA.. was the access to NASAs data in the race against Sam Altman for Ai dominance.
GBNews about to change stance on TR. LOL
What that racist violent thuggish white supremacist?
Go on show the 2011 Paxman interview and all the others on a continuous loop. It's shameful.
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https://x.com/kelvmackenzie/status/1934645142394401214
See Steynonline for Mark's take on this, today.
I keep reading about the hope this report will undo all the damage the Left have done to the country but the simple truth is Labour are calling it only to ensure they control it and it finds what they want it to find.
"A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest."
[Paul Simon : The Boxer]
There are already growing fears that the enquiry will be restricted rather than full, clear and open and take a very long time to produce its report. In the meantime the Pakistani rapes gangs will continue to rape 12 year old white girls.
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She looks thick, she speaks thick…
She is fick!
How did you guess… :o)
Just a knack…
It'd be correct to say we have 20 million people more than the country needs and can support. Thus the solution is to stop all gimmigration.
Rupert Lowe went further – he said that all illegal migrants already here should also be deported. That was too much for Farage and Yusuf so they kicked him out of the Reform Party and brought false charges against him.
Some faces in need of rearrangement.
‘Bailed’? Does that mean shot?
I was thinking more cracked with a cricket bat, Sue….
OK! That’s a good start…
Ha…sorry late reply, fell asleep..again…
Just blame the heat…or your age…or…whatever!
I think it’s vaccine leftover – that’s my whatever 😀 At first I was falling over and out, gradually tapering off. Plus I’m now at least four years older. I thought the vaccine was huge experiment from get-go..family persuaded me to have it and I finally agreed when they agreed not to let young grandson have any jabs. Can’t turn back time, unfortunately :/-
Sounds familiar, especially the wobbliness! Lack of taste now as well! 2 AZ vax, as the threat was no overseas travel! Never again!
Lack of taste familiar, too. Yes, 2 AZ vax too. Isn’t it rich, aren’t we a pair…except I love Scotland more than overseas but I know you love travel. Hope you’re away soon, as I hope to be. (Actually thinking of selling up.)
Well, my sister and family are in Greece and I would have hated not to be able to just pop and see them! Blooming blackmail! Anyway, we’re off to the Dominican Republic in September, and Athens in November for their Golden wedding!
You’ll have a great time all the destinations. Think I must be a glutton for punishment – weather, Scots…:-D They had a sign up at the border during Covid ‘English Go Home’. They’re very consistent 😀
We used to get that on our house! And I’ve been in Scotland 45 years! They can be very weird people – I know – I’m married to one!
More rows over HS2 'which won't be completed until 2033'. This surprises me a little because I thought some progress had been made in the last 18 months or so. The transport secretary blames Tories 'for all the changes' and up to a point she's right. However, she'd do better to say it's a cock-eyed and useless scheme but they'll make the best of it. Unfortunately, there are hints that Labour will reinstate the cancelled bits just to be different.
It would suit me just fine if it were never completed!
It would save money, too, as it is most likely to be a money-pit for as long as it is functioning.
Article in the DT today.
“Qatari camel herder sexually assaulted woman while in UK for heart treatment
‘Immature’ 27-year-old dragged victim into lavatory cubicle at London clinic”.
Referring to a pre-sentence report prepared on behalf of the defendant Ms Bickerstaff said: “Limited visits to Doha and a preference for a desert environment curtailed his exposure to urban and modern societal norms.
“This defendant would have had no experience whatsoever of interacting with a woman. We submit that he was equivalent to an immature and inexperienced adolescent. He completely failed to understand her true feelings.”
Al-Gherainiq, formerly of Mayfair, was remanded in custody before sentencing next week.
Who paid for this cretinous creature to come here? Who paid for his accommodation, food etc. And why come to the U.K.?
What a bloody fool this country is.
Did the woman he dragged into a lavatory have long eyelashes and a pleasing gait?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_oiU5kiNLg
Reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IqO34ONFQM
Nah, she was a painted lady and just asking for it.
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His government paid, I expect. He should get the book thrown at him, but as he is a favoured kind of foreigner, I expect he will be let off with a slap on the wrist. It's not as thought he tweeted hurtful words, after all.
Apparently, one in five people in the world are Chinese, and there are five people in my family – so it must be one of them.
It’s either my mum or my dad. Or my older brother, Colin. Or my younger brother, Hu-flung-dung
But I think it’s Colin.
Over here it's Wee-Too-Low. He has trouble aiming for the toilet.
I feel I must write a complaint on this wall:
The seat is too high and the hole is too small.
Reply
I feel I must give the obvious retort:
Your bum is to big and your legs are too short.
It's no good standing on the seat
The crabs in here can jump six feet.
And if you think that's rather high,
Go next door – the bustards [??] fly!
Aren't these people just wonderful?
EU plots tax on British tourists to pay off Covid debts
Increased charge ‘adds insult to injury’ over the Government’s Brexit reset, says Mark Francois
James Crisp
Europe Editor
18 June 2025 1:29pm BST
The EU is “plotting” to increase fees on British tourists entering the bloc to help Brussels pay off its Covid lockdown debts.
Officials are considering hitting non-EU travellers with an increased levy to help reduce the €350 billion common debt accrued by pandemic-era shutdowns.
British holidaymakers are already set to pay a £5.98 fee when the European Travel Information and Authorisation System (ETIAS) comes into force in autumn next year.
That €7 sum, which was first agreed in 2018, could now be further increased to boost tax revenues, diplomatic sources have revealed.
The increased charge could cause tensions with London and some 60 other countries with visa-free travel agreements with the EU – including the US.
However, influential Germany is opposed to the fee increase, arguing that it will discourage travel to the European continent.
The EU move also comes after Sir Keir Starmer was accused of making a series of “surrenders” to Brussels, including a controversial fishing deal that would allow European fishermen to raid British waters until 2038.
A European Commission spokesman told Politico that “a possible adjustment of the fee” was being considered.
“It seems that there is a possibility of a gradual increase of the fee, strengthening the long-term revenue potential,” the Polish rotating Council presidency of the EU wrote in an internal note.
The more expensive fee is gaining traction in talks ahead of the European Commission formal budget proposal, which is expected on July 16.
Supporters of the idea argue that the EU’s €7 fee is far cheaper than the UK and US equivalent charges. The UK charges £16 for its Electronic Travel Authorisation, while the US levies £15.61 under its ESTA system.
British travellers faced long queues at passport control after Brexit, but Sir Keir claimed his reset deal with Brussels would make travel to Europe easier by enabling UK tourists to use e-gates again.
Mark Francois, the chairman of the European Research Group of Tory Brexiteers, said: “This just adds insult to injury over the Government’s so-called Brexit reset.
“Not only has it become apparent that promises of British tourists being fast-tracked through e-gates in EU countries were largely illusory, even when they do get through immigration, they will now pay extra for the privilege.
“This increasing tourist tax is another example of what a dangerous PR sham the fish surrendering, rule-taking ‘reset’ actually is.”
The European Commission estimates that up to 50 million travellers will pay the charge in 2027.
The fee only needs to be paid once for the lifetime of each ETIAS approval, which lasts for three years and grants short-term stays in the bloc’s Schengen area of passport-free movement.
Politico reported the revenue from the increased charge would be less than €1 billion a year. The EU faces annual debt repayments of up to €30 billion from 2028 to pay off its joint coronavirus debt.
ETIAS was originally meant to come into force in 2022, but has been repeatedly delayed after technical issues.
One complication is the need for the system to interconnect with a new entry/exit system due in October this year.
That digital border system will replace the wet-stamping of passports with electronic registration and will collect fingerprints and facial images.
In January, Emmanuel Macron, the French president, said British tourists would have to pay more to visit the Louvre to help fund a dedicated room for the Mona Lisa and a “grand new entrance” to the world’s most visited museum.
The current entry fee is €22 (£18.45), but Mr Macron said that non-EU visitors, including British tourists, would face a higher fee from Jan 1 next year to pay for the renovation to an attraction visited by almost nine million people last year.
Speaking in front of the Mona Lisa, he insisted that the overhaul, estimated to cost up to £671 million, would not cost the French taxpayer “a single centime”.
After the announcement, Bruges, Madrid, Amsterdam and Berlin ruled out introducing their own “Brexit tourist tax” on UK citizens.
But in cities such as Barcelona there has been a backlash against Airbnb, with residents blaming short-term holiday rentals for pricing them out of affordable accommodation and creating a housing crisis.
Venice has introduced a €5 charge in an effort to reduce overcrowding and improve the quality of life for residents swamped by tourist numbers.
Simple, dont go there. There are other countries in the world.
AAnd Charge the cheese eating surrender monkeys to visit the Tate,BM, V&A, NHM, Blenheim etc
I emailed. The July 5th garden party is canceled.
Oh, what a shame. Is everything alright?
I have just come back from “Europe “ and the queues were no longer than when I used to travel before 2016. They just can’t help themselves.
As far as I can tell the EU has not only been taking the interest from the Russian funds held in European banks but is dipping into the Russian capital (thought to be in excess of €200 billion) for its vaunted European Defence Fund. This expropriation of another sovereign nation’s funds is of course illegal under international law.
The EU is bust and only a prize fool like Starmer would go anywhere near supporting it with British taxpayer money, borrowed as it is.
I have less and less desire to visit any country that remains a member of the EU.
EU Membership is a sign of delinquency.
Frinton it is, then.
That reminds me of the old BR advertising poster which read: "Harwich for the Continent", to which a wag had written underneath: "Frinton for the incontinent."
(Not that I'm implying, of course, any link with your intention of going there …)
Yo all, back from 'geting head sorted trip
Lighter in weight and money
The toothwright performed first, Money lost 316 quid, for sevices rendered
Weight lost 0.00002 of a ton, removal of tooth. Luckily it was painless.
Sightwright: No faults found
Hearingwright; No faults found
As yet the anniesceptic has not worn off
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The Russians are coming and we are all alone
Fascinating new five-part podcast The Wargame imagines what would happen if Russia invaded the UK – with terrifying results
I can only strongly assume this means the regular daily invasion via small boats stops, and the lab/lib/con
supporter / voters coalition has taken to the Odessa line.
MAKE HASTE IVAN.
407724+ up ticks,
May one ask ,
Why O why wasn't the copper on sick leave ?
Dt,
French police fail to stop Channel migrant on crutches
As Prime Minister admits small-boat crisis is getting worse the full scale of the challenge facing authorities is laid bare
Shoot them if they won't go back.
407724+up ticks,
Afternoon O,
The political overseers know ,as we know that gifted welfare is the magnate, stop that you stop the boats.
But they would take a while to suss out if the UK was serious, and these days I'd believe it to be just hot air.
A .308 calibre bullet in the face is difficult to misunderstand.
407724+ up ticks,
Evening O,
I realise it’s tempting, but sod the navy / rnli
a peoples funded MTB patrolling the ENGLISH CHANNEL will I believe be enough.
407724+up ticks,
Afternoon O,
The political overseers know ,as we know that gifted welfare is the magnate, stop that you stop the boats.
Look at this , nearly 500 boat illegals came ashore today .
228 came ashore yesterday
Nearly 3,000 in 7 days
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats-last-7-days
Whistleblower or just covering his progressive Teletubby a rse..?
Former detective chief inspector John Piekos recounts how he came across two occasions of systematic abuse in Oldham and Bradford, but was told to 'not pursue it'.
Oh hang on.. He spoke to Imams, and they promised to stop it and stop it immediately. LOL
You aint no hero bruv.
He knows he let them down for sure. Hopefully he can make up for it in a small way.
Edited.to add 'let'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89CT2kufAY0
Whistleblower or just covering his progressive Teletubby a rse..?
Former detective chief inspector John Piekos recounts how he came across two occasions of systematic abuse in Oldham and Bradford, but was told to 'not pursue it'.
Oh hang on.. He spoke to Imams, and they promised to stop it and stop it immediately. LOL
You aint no hero bruv.
Whistleblower or just covering his progressive Teletubby a rse..?
Former detective chief inspector John Piekos recounts how he came across two occasions of systematic abuse in Oldham and Bradford, but was told to 'not pursue it'.
Oh hang on.. He spoke to Imams, and they promised to stop it and stop it immediately. LOL
You aint no hero bruv.
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Labour’s obsession with ‘Islamophobia’ will put more girls in danger
The Government’s job is to prevent such scandals from happening, not prevent them from being exposed
Michael Deacon :
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/18/labour-government-islamophobia-grooming-gangs/
People are beginning to worry that the prime minister is determined to give a semblance of an inquiry which will be toothless because those who have evidence to give will face Islamophobia law which will silence them.
As Michael Deacon writes:
"On Monday – the very same day that Sir Keir Starmer finally bowed to pressure to hold a national inquiry – the Government’s “Islamophobia Working Group” quietly sent out an email to unidentified figures, inviting them to help it in its efforts to draw up a new official definition of “Islamophobia” – which it will ultimately present to ministers to consider."
This inquiry will be strangled at birth – or as Stella Creasy would like – aborted just before birth.
We're getting some smaller customers coming to us, but really high demand ones.
Usually we put in a few hundred ethernet drops, they get gigabit to the desktop, 25GB interlinks and a spot of storage. It's fairly standard stuff.
Recently we've been getting a lot of enquiries about really boutique set ups. A dozen drops, but 25GB to the desktop, multi 100GB connection backbone and hot SSD storage and cold storage in the multi terabytes (1000GB is a TB, so that's dozens of 20TB disks).
These chaps are really demanding, too. It's got to reach 2GB/sec sending and receiving. These are both fun and wearying deployments with high end kit and a high profit margin but still, harder to support, especially when there are problems.
IHNACWTFYATA!
I have no…?
Small, more demanding, more lucrative clients are good – until they need support as the kit is newer and the software less bedded in.
Think Tesla vs steam engine.
Was he the last Aztec emperor?
Nor me.
I have not a clue WTF you are talking about.
WSTSL, sos!
IYSS
Went to Levens Hall near Milnthorpe, South Cumbria, today (10 minutes off J35 of the M6) – very impressive Elizabethan House, built around a much earlier Pele Tower, and boasting some fabulous gardens including what is claimed to be the World's oldest Topiary Garden!
Interestingly, given today being the 210 year anniversary of the Battle of Waterloo, the place has some connections with the Duke of Wellington. His niece married the then owner of Levens Hall and, on his (Wellington's) death, he bequeathed several personal items to her such as his campaign bed, a bottle of port from his Peninsular War days and a lock of his hair, but also items belonging to Napoleon that he had 'acquired' after the Battle including a saddle and a writing blotter – all on display, fascinating.
Then onto Beetham Nurseries nearby as 'er indoors wanted some more plants for her hanging baskets and troughs. It's a great place with an interesting food hall but it's comically expensive – she hates going with me as I spend all my time amusing my fellow 'clients' (they charge enough to have 'clients' rather than 'customers') picking up or pointing at stuff and saying loudly '£149.99, Gosh that's reasonable!'. She bought a couple of things that had 20% off, so only ruinously expensive…..
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Herr Oberst
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So the Kneecrap thug …. gets unconditional bail to return to court in August for offering succour, comfort and publicity to a proscribed terrorist organisation on MULTIPLE occasions.
compare and contrast with :
Lucy Connolly … a British mother jailed for 30+ months for an offensive tweet that was REMOVED after a few hours.
British justice ….. makes you proud, doesn't it ?
daz
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Labour don't just side with foreign criminals. They side with foreigners over British people every single time.
Recently some drug dealer in toronto was charged with drug and firearm offences for the umpteenth time. They were worried that a two year prison term would lead him to be subject to being deported.
Then you wonder why Trump has a problem with drugs in Canada.
You must have been misinformed. You don't know all of the facts. There must be some mistake. The footage is faked. These people are young and don't fully understand. ©Jeremy M.
Earlier this morning , I challenged the council over their no mow May policy .. and suggested it would be a good idea to tidy the verges and roundabouts up now .. Weds and no flowers , lots of wild grasses blocking view points on corners etc .. hazardous for drivers, cyclists and other road users.
So I think they will be spurred into action for jump to it June/July .
You did? What was their response?
This after all is the buzzy bee season………………………….
Not on the dry grasses and weeds, no wild flowers Phizzee.
Creating driving hazard on bends and corners, there is a limit
Some areas do have flowers , bees and butterflies but not here in this area, and with the weather becoming warmer , the dry conditions are not safe , besides , you know that motorists chuck litter into the roadside verges , and that creates an even larger problem .. then we have to muster the village Womble team to clear up the litter.
Chefofsinners
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Meanwhile, Angela Rayner will be chairing a NOBRA meeting.
Happy Days are coming
Chefofsinners
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Call for Baroness Mone
James Eaton
Chefofsinners
2h
Does she lack support?
Captain Sensible
1h
I hope that the Iranian drone operators can read the word ‘PRESS’ on Jeremy Bowen’s flak jacket.
"Press one to leave a message"?
Just under the target decal?
Laughed out loud. Love you !
Wincey Willis, sparky 1980s ‘weather girl’ who helped rescue TV-am’s Good Morning Britain
She blazed a trail for other female breakfast-time weather forecasters such as Trish Williamson and Ulrika Jonsson, who also branched out.
Wincey Willis, who has died aged 76, became a smiley and ebullient star of breakfast television when she joined TV-am as its weather presenter shortly after it started broadcasting in 1983.
Her arrival on Good Morning Britain was intended to bring brightness to the cloudy outlook that beset ITV’s first national breakfast service when its upmarket approach had viewers switching to the rival BBC offering, Breakfast Time.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2025/06/18/wincey-willis-good-morning-britain-tv-am-conservation/?recomm_id=5069dea8-a438-4cb4-a6c9-fa73c41a6db7
I GET SO BUGGED by muslims or other non-English, Welsh, Scottish or N. Irish spouting our own neo-liberal tolerance laws against us. That philosophy, and some of those laws were based on and made in the context of how we, in a white Christian society, should treat others in that society.
They were not made for certain foreigners who are now proliferating in this country, who have nothing to do with us (except that in the long distant past we extended Western civilisation to them -and stopped them eating each other/selling each other into slavery/burning their wives).
To hear some of those people spouting our own liberal-derived thinking back at us for the benefit of those who aren't liberal, don't integrate, and aren't civilised (in the sense that those original ideas were predicated on) is taking the p!$$. Even the tw@s who are neo-libs much surely catch up with that some day?????
The Lib-Dims blind themselves to reality right up to the moment it bites them on the bum. Then look around in confusion wondering why.
I GET SO BUGGED by muslims or other non-English, Welsh, Scottish or N. Irish spouting our own neo-liberal tolerance laws against us. That philosophy, and some of those laws were based on and made in the context of how we, in a white Christian society, should treat others in that society.
They were not made for certain foreigners, who have nothing to do with us (except that in the long distant past we extended Western civilisation to them -and stopped them eating each other/selling each other into slavery/burning their wives).
To hear some of those people spouting our own liberal-derived thinking back at us for the benefit of those who aren't liberal, don't integrate, and aren't civilised (in the sense that those original ideas were predicated on) is taking the p!$$. Even the tw@s who are neo-libs much surely catch up with that some day?????
Angela Steps Up While Starmer Takes Knee Abroad
Where was he? Where was the PM for PMQs? He was taking the knee at the G7, and reminding the world of George Galloway’s sally in the Commons all those years ago, about the UK’s relationship with the US President: “Like that of Monica Lewinsky’s: disreputable, dishonourable and always on its knees!”
Out!
We went straight into Israel-Iran and the promise of nuclear apocalypse: “Given the strong consensus in this House,” Adrian Ramsay began, raising hopes for a denunciation of the Commons’ weakness for consensus. But he’s from the Green party, so he asked for a free vote in the House before the deploying of RAF jets.
Unfortunately for the Greens, the jets were deployed days ago. Keir’s plan for de-escalation hasn’t emerged from its escalation phase. He’s set himself the task of stabilising the Middle East. If it’s anything like stabilising the UK economy they better all watch out.
Daisy Cooper for the Lib Dems prayed that the UK wouldn’t “blindly follow the US into war again.”
We probably won’t. We’ve got Ukraine fighting the Russians for us, and Israel fighting Iran on our behalf. We can’t afford it, most of the country doesn’t really care, and those who do are on the side of our enemies.
We can only hope that in the event of a Soviet invasion the Israelis come to our defence.
In an otherwise creditable performance, Chris Philp also called for de-escalation. It ranks alongside “two-state solution,” “diplomatic process” and Greta’s Peace Boat as productive policy. Another missed chance for the Tory party to take an interesting position.
On surer ground, Philp de-escalated into Pakistani rape gangs. He said how “Authorities deliberately covered up the systematic rape of young girls and some boys” caring more about “community relations than about protecting vulnerable girls.”
It was like watching the Book of Mormon – amazing that such things could be said out loud, in public. Labour’s backbenches had to sit there and take it. They could only scream, “Racist Nazi bigot!” into their own internal silence.
Having located the bruise, Philp gave it a pretty thorough punching. It was “vital that scandals like this are never again covered up because of the racial background of the perpetrators.”
An aggressive depression settled visible on all those new MPs in Gaza-friendly seats. They could feel their majorities declining every time they failed to leap, shout, point, denounce the new Faragism.
Philp segued from Pakistani rape gangs into asylum-seeking rapists, “many of whom entered the country illegally”, and asked whether “the small boats crisis is also a crisis of public safety?”
Angela was trying on the mantle of premiership a little tentatively, reading most of her answers, malapropping her way through others, offering to “update the House” like a proper premier. She updated us with the fact that a smuggler had been jailed for 25 years. Gang-smashing, you see. She didn’t have any news of the whereabouts of the 4,000 migrants he’d smuggled – instead she jeered at the £700m spent on “persuading just four volunteers to be removed to Rwanda.”
Philp took the bait saying that since Rwanda was scrapped illegal immigration across the Channel was up by 30%. Angela had positioned herself for a return volley – only 40,000 migrants had entered illegally since July whereas 43,000 migrants had arrived when the Rwanda agreement was in place. Ha!
Unusually for these occasions, Philp re-volleyed her volley. The Rwanda scheme had never started. And when Australia started a similar scheme, it worked within months.
In the excitement of the special Olympics rally, its futility became apparent only later.
“The party opposite” dominates these exchanges. The Tory “You’re doing it wrong,” is countered by Labour’s “You did it wrong first.”
Both statements are true, both are true but useless. And the only party to come out ahead is Reform.
What a relief from the knockabout it would be if questioners would get information or actual undertakings out of the Government, rather than demanding apologies or admissions of guilt or handing out abuse as if they were sketchwriters.
What we genuinely want to know at this stage is – how is the Government planning to save its members and supporters from charges of aiding and abetting the rape of thousands of underage white girls?
The remit. The judge. The time limit. The powers.
It is unthinkable that the PM will allow himself to be called and interrogated by a judge, and required actually to answer questions put to him. That would certainly be worth the price of admission.
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“It is absolutely devastating. His credibility dead and integrity skewered. Exposed as the toxic, malign person everyone knew him to be. It wouldn’t be human not to feel for Sir Bernard this morning. But then we remember he is a cunt.”
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Evening all. Scorchio here. Back to dressage coaching today, but we are looking to moving it to the evening when it’s cooler.
It isn’t so much moral cowardice as deviant underhandedness.
Bit of both?
BBC R4, PM:
We were subjected to a bit of hand-wringing about the state of the world and how international law is being broken. Evan Davis casually mentioned Trump pulling the USA out of the Iran sanctions deal in 2016, as though current events can be pinned on him. This was the deal set up by Barry O's crowd, allowing Iran to help its poor people by earning a bit more money from oil sales as long as it didn't engage in naughty stuff like trying to build a nuke. And they believed in it!
International law is the crutch of the dim-witted modern 'liberal'. Any nation which breaks it is apparently despotic. We should always ask its supporters how accountability works.
International law is a fiction of course. It would require consensus and it’s impossible to apply one set of rules to the whole of humanity.
Until Islam takes over?
Sue mentioned humanity. Not …
I could apply a benchmark.
People who shit in a WC and people who shit in the street. Even when a WC is available.
Rupert Lowe vows to Continue Independent Rape Gang Inquiry – 'Labour Want to Control the Narrative!'
We are quietly getting on with the Rape Gang Inquiry – collecting evidence from victims, whistleblowers, public authorities and more.
Yeah and perhaps put out another call for whistleblowers before they are bribed, threatened and/or nobbled.
Rupert Lowe vows to Continue Independent Rape Gang Inquiry – 'Labour Want to Control the Narrative!'
We are quietly getting on with the Rape Gang Inquiry – collecting evidence from victims, whistleblowers, public authorities and more.
Yeah and perhaps put out another call for whistleblowers before they are bribed, threatened and/or nobbled.
Captain Sensible
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According to the BBC, trying to explain away the latest dismal inflation figure, “some economists speculated that business were passing on recent increases in National Insurance payments to customers.” All those years at Harvard or LSE weren’t wasted, then.
Massey Ferguson
Captain Sensible
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Nothing gets by those chaps. Next up the sanitary habits of bears.
A "bit"??
OK. Cross that out! x
Trust Paul to Bridle at that one….
"Tyler (I wouldn't go to Britain cuz they is wayist).. the door to our friendship is firmly closed.. with immediate effect," says Sparkle.
Tyler Perry Godfather to Ginge & Whinge sprog Faces $260 Million Sexual Assault Lawsuit. LOL
Sorry, you've lost me.
I often think the same when I see that name…
Sorry, you've lost me.
Never heard of him but another diversity:
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/tyler-perry-sued-260-million-actor-claiming-sexual-harassment-assault
Here's one for you: Headline in the P & J:
"Aberdeen money launderer caught with £200k in Asda bag for life on A90" – what do they mean?
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I know you really know, but for clarity.
A bullshit interpreter writes:
The money was hidden in an ASDA "bag for life". That's a Greeniac scheme to allow people to use the same bag over and over again and have it replaced when it wears out.
He was driving on the A 90 when he was stopped.
If he was a habitual criminal why wasn't he in jail or better yet, hanged after his third offence?
Friends in high places?
Working in two languages, I and SWMBO find that we read what’s written, rather than trying to interpret – at least, initially. Plus, it’s usually funny!
Looking at my response, perhaps I should have written “an interpreter of bullshit”, rather than a “bullshit interpreter”
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Even if it's in £50 notes that's still 4000 notes.
Heck, that's a good advert for ASDA's bags for life!
Scotland has £100 notes.
You might be surprised how little space it would take up
This is about £20's
https://www.reviewmylife.co.uk/blog/2010/05/09/what-does-one-million-pounds-look-like/
Was he planning a life on the road, or did he just have a bag of cash?
Rape gang enquiry.
It should have a strict timescale, ideally no more than two years. That should force them to "start at the top"
The people conducting the enquiry should be provably independent.
1. Nobody should be exempt from testifying
2. All testimony should be under oath
3. Everyone called must be cross-examined
4. Anyone later discovered to have lied should face a minimum 10 year gaol sentence
When the enquiry is over and blame is attributed, the people who covered it up or obstructed the police should be put on trial and sentences should be harsh.
Without exception
Damn, then I woke up
Oath – for muslims?? Hahahahahaha – a religion that advocates lying.
Only to non-believers, in which case it is encouraged.
They are going to be giving an oath to non-believers, so we know where that is going.
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Lost and Found; see below!
Back from the pub, don't remember the word, but here's my effort.
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Iran shuts down internet after sections of the IRGC defect to Reza Pahlavi, Crown Prince of Iran via Mossad online.
Sir Keir scribbles down note to Mark Carney at G7 summit.. "Is this possible? Asking for a friend.."
You are Marie Antoinette
Diamonds are a girl's best friends?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEyWqVfY4vo
Not necessarily…
Award-winning film director, 69, ‘murdered for her diamond Rolex’ was found dead ‘wrapped in a blanket on her bed with tape over her mouth’ in her London home
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14825299/Award-winning-film-director-69-murdered-diamond-Rolex-dead-wrapped-blanket-bed-tape-mouth.html
Some people will allow anyone in to there safe space.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14824203/iran-israel-live-updates-trump-washington-tehran-idf-missiles.html
WW3?
Possibly.
But until the free world confronts the threat of Islam, head on, it's only going to get worse.
Evening all! It's been a busy day. Out to lunch with the old office crowd, then collected three young hedgehogs for a photo session in our garden; now sitting in the conservatory with a glass of wine and a cold sausage left over from lunch.
A few minutes ago – listened in the car to Angela Georghiu singing Casta Diva. Beautiful.
" then collected three young hedgehogs for a pho"?
Is that some strange breeding ritual to increase their numbers?
I think it's some form of Asiatic soup – amazed little hogs like it!!
It wwnt too soon. You'll have to see the edit for the rest.
wwow am I surprised?
nno
For that rudeness you need to buy https://helpahedgehog.org/
I will be disappointed if you don't.
I donated your body to science, does that count?
Medical science has so many specimens to do that. They don't need my tired old organs.
I give them a fair bit of blood every few months. It seems I am like Wolverine, with a high clotting factor. By accounts a refactored protein from me is helping those whose blood doesn't coagulate as fast.
You might think where your donation is going but it isn't.
Where does it go, Phiz?
It goes to the highest bidder. Just like the organs.
Mine was always used within hours, said NHS hospital. Were they fibbing?
I have secondary Polycythemia. Thickening of the blood from the marrow. The phlebotomist always had a disgusted look on his face as he had to throw it in the bin.
I used to donate blood, family kept kicking off they thought I might get infected or some ridiculous argument. I'm AB+, donation was always used, would get a text confirming.
I'm group O+ which they always want – but my blood was rejected when I got breast cancer and I stopped giving.
Yes, my daughter rejected same reason. Hope you’re all in the clear now, N x
I am also O+ (universal donor). I had to stop donating when my veins packed up and they couldn't get their armful.
I thought you were an organ Grindr
Happy to you you back to yourself !
Pho is a very popular Vietnamese soup dish with meat and noodles, among other things. Didn't know they had hedgehogs in 'Nam.
Don't tell Ndovu…
Pfft. Tell me more about the sausage………………
It was OK thanks 😊
I had the Dorset crab but i couldn't finish it. My wounds were too great.
Is it true hedgehogs love (canned) dog food? Keep meaning to draw one, but then I keep putting it off…procrastination a form of anxiety?
Dog food or cat food but not fishy flavours. Chicken in jelly is good. Kitten nibbles for the youngsters.
Great, thanks. We have a 'hog house but not been used as yet. This year, pipistrelles are returned and in number, happy about that. Just coming out for nightly feed.
Just had a look out – swifts are still flying around the house – very close and fast – but others are on their nests now. Longest day on Friday.
We have them here too, bats out now…they are so funny how they knock on the ceiling, think there are fewer this year than last. Hadn’t realised longest day – thanks 🙂
I have been overdoing the fun recently and putting on weight and I have a big Offa’s Dyke walk coming up next weekend, so i have been drastically reducing my food intake and upping the exercise. I am soooooo hungry. Still. The sections of Offa’s Dyke we are doing are very up and down, so my knees will thank me. I hope.
Are you pregnant?
};-O
Now Sos. I want you to look at me. Look in to my eyes. Trust in me.
https://youtu.be/bJHPfpOnDzg
Thanks, but no thanks,
ashesthandust looked into your eyes and then fled to Argentina.
Ashes had me pegged straight away. She still enjoyed my company and also came back.
Then thrashed me at Scrabble.
pegged?
I hope the "normal" Nottlers don't know what you're up to.
Let us just say that after lunch at the beach the lady shed her clothes and walked serenely into the water.
Not lying. I just watched and had a paddle.
Feeling a bit limp were you?
I was bewitched.
bothered and bewildered…
Not really. Just surprised she didn't understand what the signs on the groynes said.
Errr… a gentleman should not disclose such things (not on here, anyway!)
Um, this IS Phizzee you're referring to.
Bless him, he means well (I think?)….
I was being dreamingly poetic. The lady did have a full set. …Erm…
I could post a picture but i only feel i would be making things worse.
Yes you would! To get off the hook I'd send the lady in question 12 long-stemmed red roses – always worked for me!
Ashes needs no roses from me.
pegged?
I hope the "normal" Nottlers don't know what you're up to.
I'd know that voice anywhere. It's Winnie the Pooh.
Yes it is! Do you think he's gone 'rogue'?
Lol. No!!!!
I'm going to join you (diet, not the walk)…I put my dog on reduced carbs, she's now sleek and moving more easily..🤞similar for me….😁
I need to get back to sensible eating after a weekend where I lurched from one official meal to another. At least I could still get into my riding kit this morning.
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Of course, silly me!
Just at summer One True Sport. Remind me later to post about a Speccy article from a Leftard excusing their (Leftards’) behaviour over the rape gangs. He is being eviscerated btl.
Which will soon disappear. What these idiots in government don't know is it is in the 'cloud'.
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That said, I did see a long, whinging twitter post from a Lefty complaining that it had become a 'Right wing hate fest' now and where should they go.
Of course, what they mean is 'we hate balanced debate and since Elon bought it and enforced free speech we can no longer remove the posts of those we irrationally hate.'
As it happens, twitter has been moving toward an equilibirum of left/right opinions. Lefties hate that.
They seem to hate everything they cannot control. Perhaps they're just nasty people?
Upvote for the illustration. I don't think most people realise that.
Long may that continue. Hanged by their own hate speech. The worm always turns.
In a bloody great shed.
Yet they're the ones with the platform to say these atrocious things, to excuse the vile pakistani muslim paedophiles.
I'm cream crackered! Early night for me I think. I've tidied up, watered all the plants……..
I put in nearly a dozen well-grown tomato plants (my friend has a heated greenhouse so they are well advanced) and burned some garden rubbish.
A fine rant by Alasdair MacLeod. The host holds back a bit too much, and lets him have his head – the subjects range from credit, debt and gold to international politics, the state of the west and a warning about trusting the media.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwr3g1WMars
He still doesn't get it, does he? Suggest one for a hundred and he'll manage to get that the wrong way around.
Another beautiful evening as I walked back from having checked the boat's mooring lines. And then a little later a close encounter….
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An Iranian nuclear drone.
It's very quiet and still out there this evening. Sky is still cloudless.
Up, up and away …
Indeed it was below the tops of the trees when I first heard the gas burner so rushed inside to get my phone to take the picture by the time I got back it had risen….
It looks like the Nimble advert… altogether now…
She flies like a bird in the sky-y-y
She flies like a bird and I wish that she was mine
She flies like a bird oh me oh my-y-y see her fly
Now I know, I cant let Maggie go…..
A fond lament for Mrs Thatcher – and why not?
Indeed it was below the tops of the trees when I first heard the gas burner so rushed inside to get my phone to take the picture by the time I got back it had risen….
…it is something we must face up to as a society…
There will be blood…
I hope so, but I very much doubt it…
407724+ up ticks,
Evening S,
If this is NOT settled once and for ALL then we, the decent peoples, are giving credence to child brides plus.
Count OGGA1 out..
Agreed
407724+ up ticks,
Evening WS, well penned,
If the findings are in anyway inadequate, or seen as government steered in any way it can only end in justifiable bloodshed.
Good luck, Paul…never say never. One or both may surprise you, turn up one day with a girl in tow x
Good luck, Paul…never say never. One or both may surprise you, turn up one day with a girl in tow x
Last round of surgery and radiotherapy was in 2010. A very small one picked up by routine mammogram.
Excellent. Will you be called again for similar checkup?
I think not – I had annual mammograms and checkups till 2019, then missed the last one in 2020. I’ve dropped off the radar now, for sure.
Sorry to say, I think new patients coming along all the time:-( I read a suggestion lately that mammograms may even be implicated in cause of breast cancer?! I’m very tired, been thinking why that could be – remembered stopped taking iron tablets a few weeks ago, back on them tomorrow and hope to not keep falling asleep. Off to bed now…’night Ndovu, hope to see you tmrw and you sleep well too x
Thanks Kate – sleep well!
😊
407724+ up ticks,
Pillow Ponder, https://x.com/sharrond62/status/1934917682324963778 These are current REAL farting cows from the party that introduced foreign paedophilie en masse via PM "miranda" from May 97
Not losing the Muslim vote appears to have paid dividends…….
Interesting that all the principal men had run away. That is exactly what muslim men do when it gets a bit hot for them. They lose their camo and stand around in their underwear trying to look innocent and helpful.
Shit your pants yet Keir? Ali Khameni isn't the only one whose days are numbered.
Islam appeasing sluts, with absolutely no affinity to normal British girls or ladies.
That image needs to be immortalised. Carved in stone. Their headstones.
I have never witnessed such a self serving group in my life.
I can at least rest assured that one day they will get theirs. In this world. Then they might choose honesty and humility. But then……
Are suggesting that they will go to Hell as virgins and be offered to jihadist martyrs?
Well. Jess has already prostrated herself to the devil. I see no reason why she shouldn't use her charms.
RIP Sharon. It was nice knowing you. Taken out faster than Revolutionary Guard Generals.
There is something about Jess Philips…
Anyone fancy an evening in the company of Wee Nicky? Tickets range from £33 to £74 plus booking fee. The meet and greet tickets are sold out.
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This is a bargain. A fortnight before also at the Usher Hall you can listen to Mikka Hakkinen and David Coulthard talk about their Formula 1 careers. Prices for that range from £36 to £92. The meet and greet tickets are £275 against a mere £75 for Nikki.
Unfortunately, if I had to listen to Mika Hakkinen or David Coulthard I'd probably be yearning to hear from Nikki…….(not)
Seems a high price to pay for a cure for insomnia.
There is nothing this failed lesbian can tell me about anything… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/270bda80799b1ecc809981085274783e7c29ec432f850593472253a616c50030.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtnrPXxhynI
Don't worry, the socialists will soon be after the elderly too.
over 90
Then down to
over 80
Then down to
over 70
Just the same as they've done and are doing for foetuses.
I HATE them all.
Let's put a bill in place that requires termination of any Labour politician once they've served 10 years.
I read “The Fixed Period” by Antony Trollop a few years ago. Where they decided to kill people when they reached 70. It seemed like a good idea when they were in their 30s….
https://youtu.be/viWT4JWWfTg
The book was ok, the film, gawd, I never liked Michael York, was dreadful!
Yes i know. But we were starved of SciFi/Fantasy. Now we have lots. And most of it is worse. Though i think the Morlocks would be in for a chance in the next government.
You’re not wrong there, Phizz. So many good books, so many more fucking awful films.!
Why Liberals ignored the grooming scandal. -Nick Tyrone (Speccy)
For many years, liberals refused to talk about the grooming gangs scandal. The systematic sexual abuse and rape of hundreds, possibly thousands, of vulnerable children by offenders from ethnic minorities was a story that too many people were happy to ignore. There was an effective prohibition on discussing it in left and liberal circles. Grooming gangs was a subject guaranteed to silence a dinner party. So, we decided to pretend that it wasn’t happening.
Finally, the so-called great and the good have woken up to a scandal that was happening in plain sight in towns and cities across Britain. Earlier this year, the Prime Minister Keir Starmer accused those calling for an inquiry into grooming gangs of jumping on a “bandwagon of the far-right”. Now, his government is promising a national inquiry. It’s about time.
The damage is done, of course: victims’ lives have been ruined. And while some offenders were brought to justice, many weren’t. Those in positions of authority who should have stopped the abuse did not do so. Too many of those people are still in their jobs. Too many have retired to enjoy their public sector pensions, having utterly failed the most vulnerable people in society.
can’t excuse the refusal to listen up to the victims, but I think I can explain what happened.
The truth is that too many liberals like me are guided by an instinct to protect ethnic minority communities from being targeted. That, in itself, is not a bad thing. We feared that, if a certain group of people was blamed for the abuse, then that group could become the victims of racial hatred, perhaps even violence. The thinking was this: “I don’t want blood on my hands, let’s close this conversation down, now.”
But what is clear to see now is that the desire to keep people safe meant that we became blind to the evils carried out by a small minority of people from the Pakistani Muslim community. In our desire to avoid offence, and keep people safe from violence, liberals turned a blind eye to an industrial scandal.
Call it “woke”, call it what you like, but the essence of this mode of thinking that was too common among liberals was that white people are the oppressors, while ethnic minorities are the victims. This lens through which people viewed the world removed class and even economic inequality pretty much entirely from the mix; it allowed upper-middle class people to feel good about themselves, while not having to worry about the poor any longer.
tens of thousands possibly hundreds, more like.
Why Liberals ignored the grooming scandal. -Nick Tyrone (Speccy)
For many years, liberals refused to talk about the grooming gangs scandal. The systematic sexual abuse and rape of hundreds, possibly thousands, of vulnerable children by offenders from ethnic minorities was a story that too many people were happy to ignore. There was an effective prohibition on discussing it in left and liberal circles. Grooming gangs was a subject guaranteed to silence a dinner party. So, we decided to pretend that it wasn’t happening.
Finally, the so-called great and the good have woken up to a scandal that was happening in plain sight in towns and cities across Britain. Earlier this year, the Prime Minister Keir Starmer accused those calling for an inquiry into grooming gangs of jumping on a “bandwagon of the far-right”. Now, his government is promising a national inquiry. It’s about time.
The damage is done, of course: victims’ lives have been ruined. And while some offenders were brought to justice, many weren’t. Those in positions of authority who should have stopped the abuse did not do so. Too many of those people are still in their jobs. Too many have retired to enjoy their public sector pensions, having utterly failed the most vulnerable people in society.
This is relevant to the grooming gangs scandal since, by this ideological framework, ethnic minority men were perceived as victims, when they weren’t. And young white girls were viewed, absurdly, as the oppressors. The fact that these children – and, remember, that many of them were children – were utterly powerless was of no consequence to the people that mattered.
Only by exposing this absurd characterisation can we begin to understand why liberals ignored this story – and why those in positions of authority in the police, on councils and in schools didn’t see what should have been obvious: that these girls were being abused and, in many cases, those responsible were from ethnic minority communities.
The crimes inflicted upon the victims of the grooming gangs – the real victims, just to be clear – were the end result of a horrible ideological experiment.
‘I was following through on a child’s file in (the) archive and found the word ‘Pakistani’ tippexed out,’ Baroness Casey, whose national audit on grooming gangs was published on Monday, revealed this week. There is a real world, non-woke term for this sort of thing: racism. In other words, the judging of someone’s moral character via their ethnicity.
Liberals, and those on the left, will try and equivocate over the coming weeks. They will say things like “White Britons engage in this behaviour too, so targeting ethnic minorities who do this sort of thing is racist”. That, of course, completely misses the point. No one other than the most ardent racists are saying that all Muslim or Pakistani men are child rapists. But what is clear is that some people who fit this description have committed horrible crimes and got away with it.
No one rational is saying that the men who perpetrated these crimes should be punished because of their ethnicity. We are saying that child rapists should not be allowed to escape censure because of their culture or skin colour. If we want our multi-ethnic society to survive – and I desperately do – we cannot have any type of person treated differently because of their religion or the colour of their skin.
Sadly, what is now clear to see is that too many people weren’t colour blind in how they saw things. Their perspective was essentially to try and avoid offence by ignoring the mass abuse of white, working-class girls by sexual predators from minority groups.
The whole episode is disgusting and should be a wake-up call for the left. Sadly, I doubt it will be. We need to discard the twisted ideology that decides innocence and guilt along racial lines. What happened with the grooming gangs scandal is possibly the clearest ever example of why that is the case. Too many children have paid the price for the silence of liberal do-gooders.
Nice horse.
Take a closer look. Since they first came here we are looking at 250,000 at least. Even mentioned in Parliament. I expect Jess Phillips the Minister responsible for women and girls brief was looking at Nottle and having a laugh.
Not for much longer you Brummie cunt.
Where I wonder about the numbers is the distribution across all ages.
250,000 is a significant proportion of the total number of 10-15 year old white girls in the UK.
If it’s true, deportation is far too gentle.
Deportation of their heads on one plane and bodies on another seems more appropriate.
Imagine if the current Iranian regime topples and the replacement Iranian government exposes every undercover jihadist under the control of the Ayatollahs.
My guess:
The Starmer government would welcome them all with open arms, because they might be in danger.
If, and it's a big if, this is true, it's time to beat 99 flavours of shit out of Oman.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14824203/iran-israel-live-updates-trump-washington-tehran-idf-missiles.html
You reading that rag again? Give me a precis !
Islamophobia is a nonsense term, but it's a blasphemy law in all but name. There is nothing irrational about fearing islam which is an intolerant ideology that seeks to make all other cultures and religions submit (that's what it means) to its dictates by violence if need be.
My new fave "Speccie Must Read"
Madeline Grant
Rayner’s PMQs performance will trouble Starmer
18 June 2025, 4:07pm
As you might have noticed from the crowds weeping in the streets and the appearance of sackcloth, ashes and rent, er, garments: Sir Keir Starmer wasn’t at Prime Minister’s Questions this afternoon. Instead we got Big Ange – who absolutely, definitely, doesn’t want the job for herself. She’d come dressed in a fetching double-breasted blazer and cream trouser combo which made her look like a judge at Henley or an old-school pub landlord. Or even, perhaps deliberately, Nigel Farage.
Ange breezily mentioned Starmer’s absence in the way you might mention you’d trod on a slug while gardening. As part of the Leader of the Opposition’s weird ‘deputy roulette’ policy whereby she never quite commits to having one person filling in for her, the Tories had selected shadow home secretary Chris Philp to ask the questions this week. He did so with the air of a nervous schoolboy requesting an extension on his homework from a particularly sadistic schoolmaster.
Ange said she liked his tone – and initially at least, there was something of her previous camp frisson with Oliver ‘Olive’ Dowden. She eyed up Philp as a Montmartre madam might have looked upon a virginal subaltern. Was this shaping up to be a bit of a love-in? Not so. Things quickly grew spicier.
Soon, Ange was backed into a corner of having to defend the Prime Minister. Well sort of: tellingly she didn’t quite justify or seek to defend his ‘far-right bandwagon’ remarks about the grooming gangs. Immigration, naturally, was what really set things on fire. The Tories had ‘spivved their opportunity up the wall’, said the Deputy Prime Minister, using what I think was a word entirely of her own devising.
The pair traded further broadsides. ‘He was at the heart of the Home Office when we lost control of our borders,’ boomed Ange. ‘Goodness me she’s got a cheek!’ bellowed Mr Philp as Ange protested that the number of migrant hotels were dropping. That’s one way of putting it.
Behind Ange were a pair of carefully positioned junior flunkies. They spent the whole of the performance rifling through folders and handing pieces of paper to – of all people – Lucy Powell. It brought to mind Operation Mincemeat, when the intelligence services placed important looking documents onto the body of someone who had accidentally eaten rat poison.
Anyway, the shuffling continued at a gentle pace until Mr Philp brought up the data on migrant hotels. This sent the general paper-based kerfuffle into overdrive. It was like watching a pair of chimps who had somehow found work as croupiers trying to shuffle a deck of cards.
‘Dignity-vacuum of the week’ went to Olivia Bailey – the MP for Reading West – who asked the now standard oily suck-up question from the Labour backbenches. Presumably they do this to try and get a place on the safe seat life-raft when the inevitable electoral Gotterdammerung happens. Would the Deputy PM ‘confirm that THIS government will finally give my constituents the security they deserve?’ gushed Bailey (it would be funny, if just once, the minister would take a stand against nauseating toadiness by replying ‘no’).
Philp ended with a question about the choice to keep a Zimbabwean paedophile in the country. Ange responded with an old Starmbot favourite: ‘14 years’. Different hair-style, different mannerisms, but the same reheated tripe.
And yet she did far, far better today than Sir Keir normally does. There was a charm and easiness of manner. Her delivery was less scratchy too; Starmer has the perpetual air of an about-to-be punched traffic warden telling an irate motorist to calm down, whereas Ange was more mob-adjacent landlady overseeing a lock-in. I suspect some Labour MPs will be quietly hoping that Starmer stays in Canada for another week.
Thanks, LIR.
This Nick Tyrone is just a bitfucking (excuse my French) late to the party.
So many are.
I'm looking forward to HIGNIFY this week. If we are still here. And see what His Slop has to say about it.
Where does he appear these days? I presume you mean Hislop the lefty from the BBC.
The BBC pays him £20,000 a week to be unfunny.
A phobia is an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something.
Anyone who looks closely at Islam and doesn't see it for what it is not "phobic" just stupid.
Gawd help us all
The chamberpot of British response
Spoke to a couple of dog walkers along the river this morning and then a few people at the pub from 5pm to 7pm. The consensus is a massive belief that the world, (as we know it), is coming to an end.
Thank God for that. At least the Foreign Secretary has been good for something.
How about, "as we knew it"?
No need to be so bold !
If only we could have asked the dinosaurs what happened , and then the others that followed .. and isn't it a horrible thought that the world might not end with a bang , but a whimper ?
Don’t worry, mass extinctions are a fairly regular occurrence, Belle, and you have the local fossil evidence down your way.
Mola,
You know I am a fossil collector , quit a few old bones, buckets of them , and I haven’t a clue what to do with my ammonites and heart shaped stones and other bits and pieces ..
BUT .. how come , all I have found are a few bones and ammonites , yes I know this was the sea once , but apart from a few Roman artifacts and other artifacts , what happened in between dinosaurs and us?
Continents shifted. Bit of a ruckus at the time. Only took millions of years. Much like Southampton winning the cup.
🙄😮
A few sea level risings and fallings. Continents drifting from, and towards the equator. You can buy salt collected from Mt Everest. That salt is the result of a millions of years old ocean.
“what happened in between dinosaurs and us?” An awful lot of of biology and geology, Maggie.
Fascinating subject.
A long story, Belle. The dinosaurs are still with us in the form of birds. The fossil record is far from an intact step by step progression of animal and plant evolution. For every fossil you find there will be a billion of that plant or animal that became just dust. “Heart shaped stones” sound like micraster fossilised sea urchins. Off to walk Oscar and then shopping, Belle. Sorry for the late reply.
If we were able to ask the dinosaurs what happened how would we know what they had to say.?
Translation…All these bloody incoming meteors taking our jobs !
I have another question for you. Why do you believe the Universe started with the 'Big Bang'?
Is that what you were told?
Looks more like a move towards the world as it was 2-3 decades ago: Woke on the retreat, DEI on the retreat, EVs shown to be the shitstorm that they are; Iran getting a well-deserved kicking; more & more pushback on environmental issues, sense creeping in to unfettered immigration. Feel quite optimisitic, so I do.
They will let us push back on the fraud because it has already ruined our countries.
I must buy some of whatever it is you’re drinking.
They are right about the world as we know it, because nobody alive today remembers further back than the last economic winter (culminating in 1945). We've only known the economic spring, summer autumn and now the current winter. Good times will come again, we just have to survive the bad times and not let the parasite class fleece us of all our wealth.
My grandmother, born in 1888 always said that things were never the same again after 1914. The world as she knew it came to an end then.
'David Lammy is traveling to Washington for talks with his US counterpart Marco Rubio'.
Is he by any chance traveling on a Boeing Dreamliner?
Asking for a few million friends…
Boeing, Boeing!
Gone.
There is definitely something keeping Boeing alive given the amount of failures. I suppose if one were to follow the money one would end up in a supermarket car park with a self inflicted gun shot wound.
Still…That's Walmart for ya….
Give it time and we're all subject to sexual intercourse…
Would you like me to send you some Vaseline or sand.
You are suffering from time dilation. This has been happening since the 1960's.
Admittedly as their numbers have increased the abuses have followed the same curve.
Awful thought.
But you're probably correct.
I know i am. This paki rapine is not a new phenomenon. This is how they behave. Always.
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As they say, "you couldn't make it up"!
Sadly, you don't have to. What a state we've been pushed into.
"Electric Glass Fiber UK", sounds a bit iffy.
I would be interested to know (not really) which Ministers? They all seem so busy doing damage limitation exercises while the boss is away i'm surprised they even have time to be interviewed by Emily Maitlis.
250 people? In Wigan? No one in government cares about them. Were any of the 250 actually making the glass fibres or was it outsourced to partners that outsourced to partners?
Asking for my shell company…
Well that's good news anyway! Not for the people who worked there, obviously, but hopefully they can now find jobs where they are not helping to ruin the country.
Almost my bedtime, chums. So I wish you all a Good Night. Sleep well, and hope to see you all bright eyed and bushy tailed tomorrow morning.
Goodnight Elsie. Sorry for my courseness this evening. It's all Annie's fault.
Crimea River
16m
After all the fuss about the Chagos Islands. Has he asked the CCP if he can allow it?
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That has to be a spoof.
The Nimitz alone could have sorted out all our problems with the Calais invaders over a weekend. And still had time for tea and biscuits.
The Moral Maze tonight was about you-know-what. Three women, including Moany Siddiqi, and Giles Fraser, liberal tosspot par excellence. Well, normally. Introducing the panel, Michael Buerk asked Fraser: "Does Christian theology give much help in this? Turning the other cheek doesn't really cut it with nuclear weapons."
He opened up thus: "Nuclear weapons are a whole other category of wrong and Iran is run by an apocalyptic death cult hell-bent on wiping Israel from the map. Israel and the US would be doing the world a favour if they took out their nuclear capacity." Bloody hell! He was backed up Inaya Folarin Iman (GBN presenter): "Lesser of two evils, war is a last resort but sometimes the only way to prevent a much worse future."
Siddiqi was consumed by worries over international law while Carmody Grey, Professor of Integral Ecology, blethered on about two wrongs not making a right. The two of them debated like the academics that they are, sheltered from the real world.
In the summary, Fraser stepped up several gears:
"My jaw was on the floor when Sir Richard Dalton said 'You can't serve God and be dead'. Has he never heard of the concept of martyrdom? This was a man who was Ambassador to Iran but fails to understand that one of the worst principles of Islamic theology is that you can serve God through your death. If that is the mentality associated with nuclear weapons and their (Iran's) attitude to Israel then I'm amazed that people think it can be settled with another day of coffee and discussion."
"Yeah, the law is important but there are times when there is something more important and that is when there is a moral duty to survive and protect people around you."
[To Siddiqi and Grey] "Does Israel have to wait to be nuked for your 'improved rules based order' to happen?"
"Israel is much safer now [having dealt with Hezbollah]…it doesn't really matter what people think in Morningside or North London."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002dmnz
I had to have a lie down before writing this!
The clock is counting down. Hopefully pundits and academics will be caught in the blast wave. And BBC reporters of course.
I think Mrs Fraser is Jewish. Also, since lockdown Giles has been hanging out with Marcus Walker. GF isn’t the commie he used to be.
I obviously missed his conversion.
And i have missed all those other countries that have been given/stolen Pandoras box.
We lived through a cold war. Now …
Turns out his father or grandfather was Jewish as well (from memory)
I never liked the Moral Maze when I listened to Al Beeb.
If other information comes out, then obviously things would change, but this is the official position by the US and the international community at the moment, i.e. Iran is not building nuclear weapons. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d660d3d39297823f79010a12e1a0b79a2fb9bff660d04d41fc8c41e71041458e.jpg
Believe what you want to believe.
I think I’ll stick with the IAEA and the US Director of National Intelligence (though I suspect she may be sacked if she keeps pointing out inconvenient truths).
Do you enjoy your minority status?
What a very strange question. It certainly seems odd that the US and the IAEA have officially accepted that Iran is not developing nuclear weapons and then suddenly they’re attacking Iran and everyone’s talking about weapons of mass destruction, sorry nuclear weapons.
I work with two middle aged, secular, educated Turks. We have had many interesting conversations about life, the universe and everything in the past. On Wednesday, I was commenting that I had counted 18 contrails in the sky on my way to work. My colleague said jokingly “maybe Israel is coming to bomb us!”
That’s a fair reflection of how the rest of the world outside the western propaganda bubble sees it.
Sir Keir Starmer has been warned by Lord Hermer that UK involvement in a US attack on Iran could be illegal.
Advice ascribed to the Attorney General is understood to have said that Britain must limit its involvement to protecting its allies from attack.
On Wednesday afternoon, Sir Keir held a meeting of the Cobra crisis committee at which options for joining a US-led strike were discussed, with Donald Trump suggesting he was poised to enter Israel’s war.
Britain’s capabilities extend from offering air and maritime logistics support in the Gulf to shooting down attack drones targeting Israel or even firing submarine-launched missiles at Iran itself.
However, it is understood that Lord Hermer is reluctant to sign off on any offensive operations. One official who has seen his legal advice told The Spectator: “The AG has concerns about the UK playing any role in this except for defending our allies.”
Speculation about US military action is mounting. American stealth bombers could use a joint US-UK military base in the Chagos Islands in preparation for a potential assault on Iranian nuclear facilities with bunker-busting heavy bombs.
Asked on Wednesday whether he would join Israeli strikes, Mr Trump said: “I may do it, I may not do it. Nobody knows what I’m going to do.” The US president suggested “very big” action could happen next week or even sooner.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/06/18/britain-military-support-us-donald-trump-israel-iran/
Sir Keir. Lord Hermer ?
This is getting beyond ridiculous.
I demand to know what the Duke and Duchess of Sussex think about this !!!
These jumped up lackeys do like giving themselves gongs.
Good Night 🌙 all.
Goodnight, sleep tight.
AA
Amber Astron Christo
just now
Labour covered up in the Islington Children's Home scandal and vilified the young social worker who blew the whistle. Remember that?
Quite frankly, I' d like to see this Government brought down over this. Watching Jess Phillips, gurning away in the House of Commons was utterly sickening. The stink from this Government makes you wretch. There is zero respect for any of them. A bunch of intellectually challenged, immoral creeps, unworthy of office, who put VOTES from rapists ahead of protecting young people. The whole Leftist councillors, social workers and police must ALL be made to account, as well as ALL POLITICIANS who failed to listen, take action or attempted to block investigation. They MUST be held to account. And, as they still flood our country with illegal migrants, who just fabricate identities/stories, this Government are a danger to our country. We MUST DEMAND AN ELECTION AND BOOT THEM OUT!edited
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/17/grooming-gangs-truth-revealed/
Yes.
And several senior council member went on to be VERY prominent Labour MPs and Ministers.
Margaret Hodge, I believe. Was leader of Islington Borough Council 2982-1992.
That’s the one!
Goodnight, all.
Good night.
A belated Good Night, Conners – and Kadi and Winston.
less we forget
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It's the telegraph so not fertile ground for socialist but quite conclusive opinion when it comes to baby-mer-door-ers.
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Beebsplaining
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Bbc have fact checked Iran's nooks🤔 yes it's ticking but….. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a52a81fdcbc68e3577f155b91b8773ce0dbab7f1c1879b2b3d646caf56020a8a.png
ChatGPT, give me another word for propaganda…
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This is incredibly sad, but I’ve never understood the fascination with foreign domesticpets, when we have enough of our own over here (a grumble unrelated to this story). I was once bitten in the middle of nowhere in Ecuador and was worried stiff. I had to get back to Quito, and then find a doctor pronto. It wasn’t easy but he explained there were three things to look out for in dogs which would be a sign they were rabid. I don’t remember them now of course, except the first (dog would be o its own and not in a pack – and I was bitten by a pack dog).
“A British woman has died of rabies after being scratched by a puppy while on holiday in Morocco. Yvonne Ford was “scratched very slightly” by the puppy in February but only started displaying symptoms this month, her daughter said. Robyn Thomson said her mother had initially got a headache but lost her ability to walk, talk, sleep and swallow. The UK Health Security Agency said that close contacts of Mrs Ford were being “assessed and offered vaccination when necessary”.
A BRITISH mother has died of rabies after being scratched by a puppy while on holiday in Morocco.
Yvonne Ford, 59, from Barnsley, South Yorkshire, was “scratched very slightly” by the puppy in February but only started displaying symptoms earlier this month, her daughter said.
Robyn Thomson said her mother had initially got a headache but then ended up losing her ability to walk, talk, sleep and swallow.
In a tribute on social media, Ms Thomson said: “Our family is still processing this unimaginable loss, but we are choosing to speak up in the hope of preventing this from happening to others.
“At the time, she did not think any harm would come of it and didn’t think much of it.
“She was the heart of our family – strong, loving, and endlessly supportive. No words can fully capture the depth of our loss or the impact she had on all of us. We are heartbroken, but also grateful for every moment we had with her.”
Ms Thomson urged people to “please take animal bites seriously, vaccinate your pets, and educate those around you”.
The UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) has said there is no risk to the wider public because there is no evidence of rabies being passed between people.
However, it added that close contacts of Mrs Ford were being “assessed and offered vaccination when necessary”.
The deadly infection is spread through the saliva of infected mammals such as dogs, bats, raccoons and foxes, and usually occurs when someone is bitten.
It is very rare in the UK, but nearly always fatal when someone starts displaying symptoms.
According to the World Health Organisation, rabies’ incubation period is typically two to three months, but it can stay dormant for up to a year.
The first symptoms are similar to those of flu, while later ones include fever, headache, nausea, vomiting, agitation, anxiety, difficulty swallowing and excessive saliva.
People may develop fears around things like swallowing drinks and can suffer hallucinations and paralysis.
Dr Katherine Russell, the agency’s head of emerging infections and zoonoses, said: “I would like to extend my condolences to this individual’s family at this time.
“If you are bitten, scratched or licked by an animal in a country where rabies is found, then you should wash the wound or site of exposure with plenty of soap and water and seek medical advice without delay in order to get post-exposure treatment to prevent rabies.
“There is no risk to the wider public in relation to this case.
“Human cases of rabies are extremely rare in the UK, and worldwide there are no documented instances of direct human-to-human transmission,” she added.
The UKHSA reminded travellers to be careful around animals when in rabies-affected countries.
According to the NHS website, it is more common in parts of Asia, Africa and central and south America.
No human cases of rabies acquired in the UK from animals other than bats have been reported since 1902.
However, between 2000 and 2024, there have been six cases of human rabies associated with animal exposures abroad reported in the UK.”
Good morning, all – Thursday’s new page is here .
Good morning Geoff and thank you.
Morning All 🙂😊
Breakfast finished by 7:30.
I've just been dosed up before meet the Physio to pass the leaving hospital tests. Stairs involved….. with new crutches.
Knee op was a total replacement. Which will be useful in the future.
Massive amount of stretchy bandage around the area. What happened remains to be seen.
three new guys have arrived on the ward. This morning knees and one hip. All had too much exercise during more youthful years.
Catch up with you all later..😊
Sounds like it's going well!
When's your first marathon?
I’m sitting opposite a younger chap who ran too many marathons 🏃.
He’s waiting for his second knee 🦵replacement op.